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March 21, 2023 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Calls for Alvin Bragg's arrest
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Thank you.
I'm the one who decided to do this.
A lot of people cautioned me against it, because I have nothing to gain.
The only thing I'm doing is trying to tell the truth to the grand jurors, because I read all these lies in the media that are being promoted by one side.
If you see the full picture, you know.
Listen, if they want to go after Donald Trump and they have solid evidence, so be it.
But Michael Cohn is far from solid evidence.
This guy, by any prosecutor's standard, and I used to be Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division in the Southern District of New York, I wouldn't have touched a guy like Michael Cohn.
Especially if he's a convicted perjurer.
Not to mention, as I said, the 50 to 100 lies he told us that are in those 330 emails.
Robert Costello, after he spoke, gave evidence before the grand jury yesterday in Manhattan.
A man who was actually a former, well he heard he was a former prosecutor, but a former legal advisor to Michael Cohen.
Who told you you cannot trust Michael Cohen because he is, of course, a convicted perjurer.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Greetings.
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3, 3, 4, 6, 7, 5, 2.
Let's put the events of the last three, four days into their correct context, my friends.
And it is a historic context.
And it is a legal context.
Why is it that this nation exists?
The answer to that question has everything to do with the decision taken by Alvin Bragg And what has been done to the 45th President of the United States for nigh on now seven years.
I know it's easy to take it for granted.
Especially if, unlike me, you were born here.
You were blessed with the cornucopia of blessings that it is to be an American.
Whatever your social status, whatever vicissitudes you have suffered in your life, To be a citizen of this nation is truly a blessing.
This nation affords you things that you don't have guaranteed and vouched safe as a citizen of other nations.
Why does America exist?
Because of injustice.
The United States of America was born out of a response to injustice.
Injustice as a part of the world that was under the control of a monarchy thousands of miles away that usurped the rights of those who lived here.
That didn't treat them as citizens, but exploited them as subjects.
A system that rode roughshod over their innate, unalienable rights.
That is why that phrase is in our founding document.
Unalienable rights.
America wouldn't exist today If it weren't for the injustices, the constant, the perennial, the repeated, the systemic injustices that the court of King George rained down on the people who lived here in the colonies.
A very small group of men decided that something must be done.
That there must be a system put in place Where men are equal before the law.
Where Lady Justice truly is blindfold.
And where by dint of the fact that we are made in the image of our Creator, we are equal before the law.
We have the same rights.
And if we are accused, we have the right To see our accuser, to know their identity.
We have a right to be tried in front of a jury of our peers.
And most important of all, especially with relevance to what we've witnessed since Saturday, every single one of us enjoys the presumption of innocence.
There is no requirement upon us
after we have been charged or alleged to have committed some crime it is not incumbent upon us to prove anything it is incumbent against is incumbent upon the state and the officials of the state to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that we have actually committed those offenses none of what I have described
provides for the political exploitation of a judicial system and the mechanisms of law enforcement.
Law enforcement is there to investigate crimes after they have occurred.
It is not to identify an individual and then root around that individual for things they could be charged with.
That is, the antithesis of our system.
It is, in fact, the basis for the secret police system of the Soviet Union.
The precursor to the KGB and to the maybe apocryphal saying that is attributed to its founder, Levent Iberia, Show me the man and I will find you the crime.
Or in the American phraseology, you can indict a ham sandwich.
What we are witnessing today in America is the antithesis of those principles upon which our Republic was founded.
President Trump isn't being charged with a crime by a grand jury because he committed a crime.
He's being targeted and charged Because he's the leader of the opposition who was the president and may be the president again.
He's being charged with a crime because he's an affront to the elite and to the establishment because he's not of the elite and the establishment and he represents a threat to their uniparty corruption.
A man who shouldn't have won were it not for the people electing him.
Why did they elect him?
Because he was an outsider.
Exactly because he was not a member of the uniparty elite establishment.
That's why we're witnessing what we're witnessing.
The question is, can we recover from it?
Can good decent Americans see through this sham?
Are they prepared to speak the truth about it?
Are they prepared to protest peacefully with regards to the affront to all our civil rights?
Because be very clear about one thing my friend.
If this can be done to a man who not too long ago worked in the Oval Office And right now still enjoys the protection 24 hours a day of the United States Secret Service.
It can be done to you.
And much, much more easily.
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We have moved because of the breaking news yesterday.
We didn't do our making movies great again.
We will be doing it today in the third hour with our good friend Mr. Reagan.
And here's a clue to the movie we will be celebrating.
We won again!
This is good.
But what is best in life?
The open steppe.
Fleet horse.
Falcons at your wrist, and wind in your hair.
Wrong!
Conan, what is best in life?
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
That is good.
Of course, John Milius is Conan the Barbarian.
That's a five to six today.
You can't miss it.
She was meant to be in studio yesterday.
I think she sabotaged that interview because she wanted to be here to hear the celebration of her father's movie.
Well, she finally deigned to just come to the studio and grace us with her presence.
My former colleague in the Trump administration, Amanda Milius, thank you for joining us.
Thank you.
I think I knew subconsciously.
Yeah, clearly.
I had to be here on Conan Day.
You had some intel.
We have serious stuff to talk about, but since you're in studio, I got to ask you, does your dad have a favorite amongst the movies he made?
I thought you meant amongst the children.
Well, we know who that is.
Yeah, it's me.
So, of the favorite... Because they're all just so amazing from, you know, Dirty Harry to Ray Dawn to Conan.
Can you tell if there's one?
I mean, I love... What was it?
Big Tuesday was his autobiographical one.
Is that probably his favorite?
Yeah, he would tell you that that's what he wants to be remembered for and that he'll still tell you that he wants to be remembered primarily as a surfer.
And I'm like, well, that's not going to happen.
I mean, can you accept being remembered as a surfer?
a really, like, the best writer, maybe, of movies ever, and, like, the director of many, many great movies that are classics that have inspired people to, like, change their lives.
Is that okay with you?
Because, like, or no, it just has to be surfing.
But, so he, yeah, Big Wednesday is so personal to him, and it's such a good movie.
I mean, every growing up, every adolescent guy should see that movie, because it really is about male camaraderie throughout life.
It has all the stages of life that these guys go through, and it's just, it's really, it is really, really good.
But it's not, like...
like Milius-y in the Conan way.
I mean Conan I would say is the second because it is a very serious movie.
It teaches really serious lessons and I'd say I'd go for me it's Big Wednesday Conan but for him I think it's Big Wednesday Wind in the Lion actually.
Oh interesting.
And then like every movie that never got produced he's like obsessed with Like the Genghis Khan one.
Yeah, like he'll just talk about it all day.
And by the way guys, you've got to go online and you've got to look for footage of John Milius surfing because it's really quite amazing.
It's like a bear who knows how to surf.
It's really weird.
Let's get down to work.
Let me read.
This is breaking news just received from the Daily Mail.
Why a British thinking newspaper has to get this?
First is, well, I just don't understand.
Exclusive, quote, Trump will not be arraigned this week.
Former president is expected to be indicted tomorrow.
Secret Service will make plans for his surrender and appearance in New York court next week.
Your reaction to the news of the last four days, Amanda.
I mean, it's mind-blowing even though we've been talking about it for three years.
We've been saying this is where we're going as a country.
We have been saying, and everyone we know has been saying that we're headed towards a banana republic.
And then these watershed moments happen when you get closer to that point.
It's happening.
weird feeling of like just yeah it's the daily news like you're just like okay they're arresting the former president like we're just not a country anymore like okay okay the justice system is just it is we've literally become what we used to call a banana republic and which what's funny is i mean these these uh third world countries are actually i mean although you know look what happened brazil but like you know this stuff doesn't even happen no in the countries we would
we would sort of like schloff at and like act as though that that was you know they're they're crazy politics or whatever uh We have it worse.
I mean, this is so dangerous and so wild.
And I've tried to be...
No one will believe me when I say this, but I've tried to be measured in my response as far as, remember his tweet to call to protest?
Yes.
Because we need to think clearly.
There's been some very good arguments on both sides about how do we refuse to accept this?
Because we must do something.
We have to refuse to accept it.
But is getting out in the streets a second call to January 6th disaster mess?
And no one wants that.
So no one's arguing for repeating that mistake, which I think was an operation, not a mistake.
But some of them, like the Wall Street Journal, are arguing that we don't get to protest.
Well, that's ridiculous.
I mean, that's the thing is, again, the deep state knows what it's doing.
That's why January 6th happened the way that it did.
It also to scare conservatives or Republicans or Trump people or whatever you want to call us into never complaining or protesting ever because it will just become that.
So just stay in your home if you don't want the FBI to come arrest you and don't do anything because, you know, it could become like the next Pearl Harbor in the eyes of everyone else and we don't want to do that.
Well, no, hang on.
Worse than 9-11.
Right, right.
Where's the 9-11 and everything else?
So they've put us in a corner very well, and so therefore we must be measured and thoughtful about the response, but it has to be responded to.
But there must be a response.
She's Amanda Milius.
Follow her right now at AmandaMilius, director of The Plot Against the President, the record-breaking documentary Against the man who they wish to arrest and arraign next week.
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Back with Amanda after these messages.
One of our favorite authors, you know.
One of our favorite authors, you know.
He's a great, great podcast.
He does?
- He does? - Oh yeah, he's called out the Trump derangement syndrome in Hollywood as it was happening.
Imagine the blowback he got.
He lives in West Hollywood.
I mean, he was-- - Does he get any work anymore?
Oh, he does his podcast.
Yeah, I mean, still published.
He just published his latest book, The Shards, which is actually, he did in a really interesting way.
He read each chapter as he wrote it on his podcast, which you have to subscribe to.
So some people have heard it as he was writing it.
And then he's released it now, I believe, or it's about to be released, but it's a really unique way of putting out a book.
And it's good.
It's like semi-auto-value backed by a group.
I still can't talk with the wisdom teeth thing.
Semi-autobiographical, and it's just cool.
It's nostalgic.
He's just great.
I love the guy.
He's awesome.
But, yeah, no, I had the teeth done.
I finally feel like I can go out in public again, so you're the first.
I've said no to everything because I've been hiding.
So how much time are you spending here going back and forth?
To Texas?
Yeah.
Next week I go for a couple days, Come back majority here, but then it's slowly gonna majority there But then we do have a second film that must be done here.
So the interviews have to be done here.
So Then I'll be here again the majority of the time.
So I'm not getting rid of the place in Alexandria I'm still on a 12-month lease like I'm not Axing that anytime soon the one we're gonna be doing here is in You You You
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All right, we're back with my good buddy Amanda Milius, film producer, director, former Trump official, who also is, I don't know what to call her, a Twitter space warrior.
We were on the same Twitter space on, what was it, Saturday?
Saturday?
I think it was Saturday.
Whatever day it was, it ate up my whole day.
Yeah, it was like a nine-hour Twitter space.
Pure chaos.
It was chaos.
It was great.
A little clip of Amanda is available.
I can't air it for you here on radio because it's illegal to do so.
This is a family show.
We will be fined.
But I think it was one of the Krasenstein brothers, the left-wing propagandists, used an anti-Semitic slur against President Trump and Amanda stepped in and basically it was... It's that scene from Apocalypse Now when the napalm is dropped on the beach.
Basically that's what Amanda did to Krasenstein.
Let's talk about the broader phenomena of that discussion because I don't know if you've got an in or you've got a...
An idea, some kind of psychiatric evidence.
But we were on these calls, and the lefties, they actually think, or they keep spewing this, President Trump is a criminal, he's a fascist, on and on and on.
And when we respond and say, interesting that he's the most persecuted and investigated man in American history, from Crossfire Hurricane, to Mueller, to Impeachment 1, to Impeachment 2, to Quid Pro Quo, to January Committee, It seems as if these people, are they just liars or just live in an alternate universe?
Do you have any idea what's going on?
That call, I mean, that space was illuminating.
Because I don't hang out with people like that.
I realize, I'm in a bit of a bubble, in a sense, because... Because you live in the real world.
Well, I'll say so, because, I mean, I have liberal friends.
I'm from Los Angeles.
I have friends in New York that I produce movies with.
I have all kinds of friends that, like, I interact with all different types of people all the time, actually.
Especially more so now that I've left politics in a formal sense.
But obviously the people I am mostly friends with in the political world are obviously right-wing.
But you get on the call, on the spaces with these people, these ideologues, and you're like, I can't believe you still exist.
And that's what I was getting to.
I don't know if you made it to the end of my portion before I bailed out and had to go feed the cats.
My phone was dying and they kept cutting my mic when I was about to answer a question and people were like, oh she can't answer when it's hard.
I'm like they cut my mic.
But there were people on that call who actually said, yes, he is a Russian agent, Trump is a Russian agent.
And then they would come back to the Manafort thing, as like, they're only, they're like, but Manafort with the polling data, and you're like, would you prefer polling data, which by the way, every single presidential campaign, who knows where their polling data is going to?
Or would you prefer actual American voting data being taken out of the country?
I'd rather it just be polling data, personally.
But when they say that, but they're also laughing.
They say, well, you know, you're not going to deny he's a Russian spy.
And they laugh.
And it's psychotic.
And then they get so offended when you don't care.
When you're just like, ah, ah, ah.
You can't do that.
That was the thing that I think really, it wasn't that, OK, yes, I said a bad word to the Krausestein brother.
By the way, I didn't even know that's who it was.
It was just like some whiny guy named Brian.
And so I treated him as such.
So I was just like, I don't know who the, whatever.
But, um, so I'm sure I'll get a hit piece soon.
I don't care.
Good luck.
Everything about me is known.
But, um, enjoy.
But if you ignore them, that's the same.
But that was the thing is that they were, they were, they were like wanting to say what he was saying is he was saying that both Brandon Strzoka and, and then he got caught with that.
So then he had to turn it into Trump says anti-Semitic dog whistles.
And I lost it, because I was just like, you know what?
Actually, I'm not going to take the time to dismember this entire argument, because I've been doing that for the last three years.
And if you haven't been paying attention, that's your problem.
Yeah, you just have to flame them.
You know what?
At a certain point, somebody used to tell me, at a certain point when words fail, all you can think of is a baseball bat.
And you're just like, at least I just said a bad word, right?
I just was like, you know what?
No.
I reject the entire premise.
Go shove it.
You're done.
I'm done.
I'm done.
It was delightful.
If you have a strong stomach, you can see the little clip.
It is on my Twitter feed at Seb Gawker.
You can follow Amanda as well, at AmandaMilius.
You have got amdcfilms.com as well.
If you haven't seen it, The Plot Against the President.
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Jeff, that was today, right?
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Thank you.
I got it.
He can't even read a teleprompter.
Why does he shout at the people who are helping him?
Jeff, that was today, right?
That was just this morning.
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All right, let's go down the line.
The call board is full.
Judy, line one, Brooklyn.
Hey, Dr. Gorka, how are you?
Good.
Have you got something to tell me, Judy from Brooklyn?
Yes, I definitely do.
How many seconds do I have?
I'll give you three.
I'll give you three seconds.
Oh, God.
Hello.
Goodbye.
No.
Listen.
Alvin Braggs transgressed the 14th Amendment because it's illegal to go after someone for, and I'm quoting this, vindictive and selective prosecution.
And Dr. G., our civil liberties are seriously in jeopardy, not just with Donald Trump, but all of us, because there's like 40 to 50 Soros-corrupted DAs and prosecutors all over this country.
And let me just say, talk about a response.
Here's a suggest response, okay?
It's not good enough, Dr. Gorky, like Jim Jordan to call him brags and see and have him swear and whatever.
He's going to lie anyway.
This is what I have a suggestion.
Republican lawyers like Jenna Ellis, Rudy Giuliani, Boris Eckstein, and or Joe DeGeneva, all these people, all these lawyers should get together.
They should organize something called the New Fair and equal civil liberties union for all.
This is like bipartisan and it's for all Americans.
And guess what?
They should start a tort action.
You're going to like this because torts... You're using fancy words here, Judy.
Tort action.
Listen, yes, tort action, because you see, I was told that tort comes from the country you were born in, in England, and tort action, tort law, is common law all over the world, okay?
And guess what's great about tort action?
You can then take these DAs and prosecutors that are malicious and vindictive and selective, and you could go after them personally, okay?
You could stop them, these government offenders, that abuse their power.
It's just very... Listen, listen, listen, listen!
No, you're three seconds are up.
You're done.
My point is, you could go after monetarity.
I know, I know.
But it's bloody, bloody expensive.
Alright?
So, yes, I like the idea.
Taught actions against abusive, malicious prosecutions by politically motivated DAs.
It's a great idea.
But somebody has to organize it.
And then, Judy, somebody has to fund it, because these things are incredibly expensive.
Doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.
Thank you, Judy.
Let's go to our buddy Victor.
I heard him say something very, very scary on my friend Chris Plant's show this morning.
Victor, welcome to my show.
I want to tell your three million listeners what I said this morning.
Go ahead.
I am frightened that if Trump is arrested and taken into custody, I wouldn't put it past the people up in New York to pull a Jeffrey S. Stein And I don't want to hear on the news that Donald Trump passed away because, oh, he committed suicide.
It was just too much for him.
Trump, please do not turn yourself in.
Make them come after you.
We don't want people going after him.
That would be dangerous.
But you've got to stop worrying, Victor.
The president has Secret Service protection until the day he dies.
So he's not going to be alone in a prison cell.
You do understand that, right?
He is a president.
I know he's got Secret Service protection, but what about when he goes to jail?
Doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter.
He still has Secret Service protection.
That's good.
That's good to know.
All right.
Thank you, Victor.
Todd Atlanta, Line 3.
Yes, Dr. Gorga, I just wanted to say that this persecution of President Trump is about as legitimate as the Jesse Smollett fake crime, and that the DAs here in Fulton County and New York and Chicago are, George Soros basically is their pimp, and Stormy Daniels, you know, that Let's go to Don Los Angeles.
Hey, Don.
in 2018 is about as legitimate as the Steele dossier.
And this is what fascism looks like, what's happening in our country.
You're absolutely right.
You're absolutely right.
This is what fascism looks like.
And it's upward of 50 prosecutors who are funded by George Soros with political intent.
And people need to understand that.
Let's go to Don, Los Angeles.
Hey, Don.
Dr. G, what a great touching base with you.
You know, I wanted to talk about Ukraine, but man, after Amanda Milius, I just can't.
I gotta talk about John Milius.
Yes.
You know, so many great movies.
I mean, I can't pick a favorite, but... Do you like the Wind in the Line?
That's one I have to explore again.
It's a little bit different.
Oh, Wind in the Line is great.
And one of my favorites is Farewell to the King.
Alright, I'm writing it down again.
with like that part of the world, Indonesian martial arts, and that scene where he tells the guy, we walk in the same forest, we breathe the same air.
If you have a problem with me, pick up the headhunter sword.
I'm like, oh, I like this guy.
And I still can't believe it.
I wish you'd give Dillinger another chance.
I mean, Dr. G, I would have bet a million bucks you would have loved that movie.
All right, I'm writing it down again.
I'm writing it down again, Don.
Tommy gun, shoulder holster, cigars.
He smokes a cigar over every... Yeah, but I'm not, I'm not a, I'm not a kind of mafia organized crime guy.
I know Jeff loves those movies.
The only one I like is The Untouchables.
All the other of them.
Even The Godfather doesn't excite me, Don.
Oh, but I mean, like, Warren Oates and Ben Johnson.
Ben Johnson as Melvin Purvis.
Oh, please give it another chance.
I shall.
I shall.
Just for you, Don, because it's you, I will give it another try.
We might have to review The Wind and the Lion this afternoon.
We will be reviewing with my good buddy, Mr. Reagan.
That John Milius classic.
It's even better than I remembered Conan the Barbarian.
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The good thing about mob movies is they always have a good ending because they always end up in jail or dead.
Pretty much, yeah.
What about Donnie Brasco?
Did you like that one?
Never saw it.
You never saw that one?
I liked that one.
Do you know what it's about?
I don't remember.
It's the FBI agent that infiltrated the mob.
For like years.
It's like it's Al Pacino and Johnny Depp, right?
Yeah, Johnny Depp plays him.
Based on a true story, yeah, that one's actually really good.
I got a title in mind for the monologue.
No!
You talked about the erosion of our rights.
Yeah.
presumption of innocence, all that.
One minute. .
The Trump case, colon, it's about the founding.
Alright.
And Milius?
Is there something fun like John Milius' favorite of his movies or something like that?
Or rather stick to the subject.
John Milius' favorite movie.
Alrighty.
30 seconds. 30 seconds.
30 seconds.
Can't handle the truth?
Is reality just too much?
There's always NPR.
I hear they have tote bags.
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Have you seen this viral video that finally after two years has been released of Fauci with Muriel Bowser of the D.C. mayoral fame trying to get residents, black residents of D.C. to take the vaccine?
Man, the pushback is glorious to behold.
Here's one gentleman who understands what Fauci is doing today.
This is cut to Fauci failing.
You're going to pass.
Yeah, definitely.
Because when you start talking about paying people to get vaccinated, when you start talking about incentivizing things to get people vaccinated, there's something else going on with that.
Something else going on with that.
It is something going on with that.
You're right.
But I'm glad millions of people like me and almost everybody here It's a pandemic of fear.
God bless that man.
We've got more of that to share with you.
Let's go back to your calls.
- I won't keep doing it anymore. - It's okay 'cause my campaign is about fear.
It's about inciting fear in people.
You all attack people with fear.
That's what this pandemic is.
It's a fear, it's fear this pandemic.
That's all it is. - It's a pandemic of fear.
God bless that man.
We've got more of that to share with you.
Let's go back to your calls.
Anthony Sacramento, line five, welcome. - Hi there.
Well, we've had a victory here in California for the Second Amendment.
Yes, I think I know.
Carry on.
Tell our listeners what's happened.
One of the judges in San Diego has struck down the California handgun roster and the micro-stamping bill passed by your old friend Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Oh, my old friend.
No, not my old friend.
But yes, this is a victory.
This absurd, absurd regulation that would have required every handgun, when it is fired, to imprint a unique identity and micro-stamping onto the shell casing has been deemed by a judge to be Just completely detrimental and would destroy the gun manufacturers.
A little bit of a victory.
We will possibly discuss it more on Friday, on Second Amendment Friday.
But thank you, Anthony, for the update.
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Where was that footage of the mayor of Washington, D.C.
and St.
Fauci hiding for two years?
You won't believe the footage that has been released.
People have had enough with the little fascist Fauci.
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The End
Hello?
Two and a half minutes.
The mics are on.
All right.
Have you heard back from Millic?
No, if you have an... Oh, can somebody bring me my phone?
I left it on guys.
Coming in.
Lord Black is on the line.
Great.
Jeff, you haven't heard back, right?
No.
I want to get Larry on.
Alright, I'll try him.
For that block?
That was the VDH one, right?
Yes.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Conrad.
Yes, sir.
If you get Larry Aron, will you give him my best?
I shall.
I'm trying to get him on my TV show on Sunday.
Yeah, he's an old friend of mine.
Oh, I shall, I shall.
I wonder what we should talk about today.
Look, I see this latest poll shows him leading DeSantis by 28 points.
Yeah, 52% Rasmussen.
The first time he's been in the 50s since January the 6th.
Look, I thought DeSantis' comment yesterday was an outrage.
You know, the smart-ass comment.
Churlish, childish, and then he has to repeat it.
I mean, if he just said this is a rule of law issue and it's an outrage, he would have just showered himself in glory.
Exactly.
I don't know if you've read what I sent Jeff last week.
Yeah, I've got it in front of me.
We will discuss.
I fired all the guns I had on that one.
Alright, stand by.
Eric, then have the DeSantis clip ready again.
Yes, yesterday's cut 14.
Alright, 40 seconds, stand by Conrad.
Coming in with the President.
So no liner, Alex.
40 seconds.
All right.
is just a continuation of the most disgusting witch hunt in the history of our country.
It's gone on forever with Russia, Russia, Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine and the Mueller hoax.
It's an absolute disgrace what's going on.
They even spied on my campaign.
And remember this with all of the work that they did on Mueller.
No collusion.
That's what the answer was.
It was all no collusion.
Whether it's the Mar-a-Lago raid or the unselect committee hoax, the perfect Georgia phone call that was absolutely perfect, or the stormy horseface Daniels extortion plot, they're all sick and it's fake news.
Our enemies are desperate to stop us because they know That we are the only ones who can stop them, and they know it very strongly.
And they're looking at the polls where, not me, but we are up by so much.
They can't even believe it.
We won twice, and now we've got to win a third time.
They know that we can defeat them.
They know that we will defeat them.
But they're not coming after me.
They're coming after you.
I'm just standing in their way, and I always will stand in their way.
Thank you very much.
President Trump's announcement regarding his arraignment imminently.
The latest breaking news from the Daily Mail.
The charges will be levied tomorrow.
However, President Trump will not have to appear at central booking until next week.
That is the latest update we have.
Let's discuss what it all means for the fabric of the Republic.
And what it means for the political future of President Trump and the America First movement with our regular guest, one of your favorites from Canada.
He's phoning in Lord Conrad Black, co-host of the podcast Scholars and Scents.
Lord Black, welcome back to America First.
Thanks very much, Sebastian.
I have some specific questions I wish to ask you and also your analysis of DeSantis' statement yesterday, but I will give you, you know, unfettered response time right now.
Talk to us about your reaction to the whole Alvin Bragg announcement.
It is so outrageous that, I mean, I think you and your listeners would Acknowledge that I have a reasonable grasp of the language, but I am having a real struggle to find words adequate to express my contempt for what President Trump's tormentors are doing, and my genuine concern for the country.
I mean, you know, I'm a man in my 70s now, and I've seen difficult moments in American history, but that one of the great
Mainstays or guardrails of the American system that you don't unreasonably harass former presidents is apparently about to be violated, and that what a moron can see is not a legal offense, is going to be used as the basis of a criminal charge, is terribly destructive of whatever confidence one might have that it really is a society of laws.
Now, as you know, and as you have mentioned a number of times in the past, My experiences with the American legal system have exposed it as being seriously dishonest in many ways, and institutionally dishonest in the excessive power that rests with prosecutors to extort and suborn evidence and to give promises of non-prosecution for perjury to witnesses from whom they extort false, inculpatory evidence.
That would not be accepted in any other serious jurisdiction, certainly not In the ones I know, Britain and Canada, where American prosecutors would be disbarred every day.
I don't mean fired as prosecutors, I mean gunned out of the profession for what they normally and routinely do.
But with all of that said, to lay this on to a former president and a man now leading the polls as the most likely next president, a man who's rendered great service to the nation in its highest office and absolutely, indisputably Obviously has political support of scores of millions of people and has in fact received more votes to the office of president than anyone in the history of the country.
But isn't this the true enormity?
This isn't a former president, but to use a British phrase, this is the leader of the opposition they're trying to indict.
And the likely next candidate for president of the opposing party.
All of that.
But that isn't how you do it.
I mean, you know, the Constitution is there for the purpose, ultimately, of providing a framework for the American people to govern themselves, not for a bunch of crooked prosecutors to persecute the most prominent public servants in the country.
Now, you mentioned the latest polling.
We have Quinnipiac, we have Rasmussen, we have President Trump not only double digits ahead of anybody else, including the governor of Florida, we have him at 52% where he hasn't been since before January the 6th.
So, I have to ask, what is the left Contemplating.
We know this is a Soros-funded prosecutor.
More than a million dollars from one of Soros' foundations for his campaign, which is unheard of for a DA's campaign.
But are they just such hostages to their ideology that they're cutting off their nose to spite their face?
Because there could be even more sympathy should the mugshot be revealed next week and then he'll be unstoppable.
Well, look, getting into the motivations of thugs like Bragg is a low occupation, but a highly speculative one as well.
I mean, I assume that his motive is in part his often proclaimed dislike of the former president, but also to walk in the footsteps of Thomas E. Dewey, in particular, as a former New York prosecutor who was in particular, as a former New York prosecutor who was nominated for president.
I assume that, and ran for that office twice, I assume that Bragg has higher political ambitions, and I assume that he thinks this will help him with them.
But there is a man I've never met, have an active ambition not to meet, and I'm not qualified to judge his motives.
But since you asked me, my guess would be it's a combination of rabid political partisanship and brazen personal ambition, far beyond, as far as I can see, the extreme limitations of this man's ability.
Ability or character, but do you not think that there are phone calls being made from?
Democrat offices to Bragg's office where I mean is there any semblance of?
Rational thinking do they understand how this redounds to President Trump's popularity?
I think we're getting into an area where people are so full of hate, so blinded by years of self-inflating and proliferating paranoia and the evil so blinded by years of self-inflating and proliferating paranoia and the evil of hate, that they're beyond a rational contemplation of what Trump might do or how he might be perceived by
So, So I just discount their judgment.
If they had any judgment, let alone any integrity, none of this would be happening.
Now, with that said, I see some signs.
That somebody around there may be having second thoughts.
I mean, Trump himself thought he was going to be arraigned today, and apparently that's not happening today, but it just appeared that I may be completely mistaken.
I wouldn't know, and I don't profess to know anything about this, but it appeared yesterday that maybe somebody was having second thoughts about this, but I suspect that if they were, It was not on the grounds of, let us not drag a person we know not to be guilty of what it is contemplated to charge him with.
Through the ludicrous procedure of charging him with it, it would be, wait a minute here, this may backfire politically.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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Let's just have a clip from Bob Costello who testified At the grand jury yesterday, former legal advisor to the star witness Michael Cohen.
This is what he had to say about Michael Cohen.
I'm the one who decided to do this.
A lot of people cautioned me against it, because I have nothing to gain.
The only thing I'm doing is trying to tell the truth to the grand jurors, because I read all these lies in the media that are being promoted by one side.
If you see the full picture, you know, listen, if they want to go after Donald Trump and they have solid evidence, so be it.
But Michael Cohn is far from solid evidence.
This guy, by any prosecutor's standard, and I used to be Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division in the Southern District of New York, I wouldn't have touched a guy like Michael Cohn.
Especially if he's a convicted perjurer.
Not to mention, as I said, the 50 to 100 lies he told us that are in those 330 emails.
Star witness number one, convicted perjurer.
The other one, a woman who lost a defamation suit to President Trump and had to pay him $300,000.
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That was Blackberry Smoke.
You can, you can, you can delete it.
Got it.
Alright, three and a half minutes.
It's as if they have no rational thought anymore and it's just hatred.
It's truly stupid.
It's just hurling muck and anything they can lay their hands on.
But let me ask you this.
I mean, we've seen that he's streaked way out ahead of... Yes.
...Santis in the polls, but how's it looking, you know, on a poll with Biden at this point?
There was a poll last week on Friday... He beats Biden compared to DeSantis in most polls.
Yeah.
Do you remember what that poll was?
It was close, but it was... It was one of the big ones.
I thought it might have been Gallup.
I could be wrong.
Yeah, I think you're right.
It was like...
Yeah, I mean, at some point the Democrats are going to have to face up to the grim reality of what actually trying to get re-elected behind Biden is going to look like.
I mean, how they imagine that this regime can be re-elected is, it just, I mean, that strikes me as a farther jump for the imagination than what these loonies are doing, just throwing muck at Trump.
I mean, it's sort of obvious what they're doing, but, you know.
But this is the question that, I don't see any remedy for the institutional left.
Unless there's a complete crisis of identity and conscience and they just collapse and they, you know, take a hard look in the mirror.
Unless they have, you know, a swinging defeat where they're trounced, they're just, they're going to keep living in this alternate universe.
Well, that's what they need.
Like they got in 72 from Nixon, but this time they won't be bailed out by Watergate or anything like it.
I mean, what they need is just a bone crushing defeat so they come to their senses.
It was Emerson College.
Emerson College?
And what were the figures?
And LBJ comes back and you get a real party there.
Not just this aggregation of crooks and semi-traitors and lunatics that they are right now.
Yeah, lunatics.
It was Emerson College.
Emerson College.
And what were the figures?
They had DeSantis losing to Biden by four points, 44 to 40, and Trump beating him 46 to 42.
That's interesting.
And Emerson's moderately left of center pole, so that's a good indication for the Trump people right now.
Obviously DeSantis can bounce back from this, but I think an awful lot of people will see that on an issue where he really had to show his mettle, stand and be counted.
Uh, he blew it.
And it was so easy, as you said, if he just said, this is an absolute outrage, I have my differences with President Trump, in general I agree with him, and I like him, and we've been allies in the past, we're both Republicans, but this is an outrage, and I'm with him 100%.
He'd be, he would have risen in the polls.
Well, and not only that, he had every, um, We have every expectation that he should have said the right thing as a former JAG in the Navy.
I mean, if a former JAG doesn't understand rule of law, then who does?
Yeah, and you know, what I just said is a slightly embellished version of what, to be fair, Mike Pence and Nikki Haley said.
I thought they were fine.
I thought they were both fine.
Good for Pence and Vivek Ramaswamy.
Standby, ten seconds.
You want to come in with the Santas or tee it up?
No, I'll see you next time.
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In your latest piece for the New York Sun, Lord Black, you write the following sentence, Mr. DeSantis would be a strong candidate and an excellent president, but not if he does not attack the political destroyers of his fellow Republican and benefactor to his political career.
Well, let's listen to what he said yesterday.
He wasn't prepared You're talking about this situation with, and look, I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.
I just, I can't speak to that.
him a question and this was his disappointing response.
You're talking about this situation with and look I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.
I just I can't speak to that but what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction and he chooses to go back many many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments you know that's an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office and
And I think that that's fundamentally wrong.
Playing to giggles from the peanut gallery, not once but twice with the hush money for a porn star, your measure of Governor DeSantis, who by the way is the governor of the state in which the president resides.
Look, I've always thought he was an excellent governor.
I thought he was a good congressman and he's got an impressive record.
But I thought that he was served a I believe it's called, in baseball, a gopher ball.
It served something that anyone could hit out of the park for a home run, and anyone should have.
It was an absolute, simple issue.
And all he had to do was say, I have no comment on the merits of whatever case there might be, but this is an outrage.
This is a straight political prosecution and it's an outrage.
And that is pretty much what former Vice President Pence said, what Governor Haley said.
What have you said?
Ramaswamy, yes.
I'm just turning around his name now.
Other candidates, or possible candidates, that's what they said, and it was the right thing to say.
For DeSantis at that key moment, the key moment of the developing campaign to this point,
To bobble the ball like that and take a cheap shot and give a half answer, you know, attacking Trump and the prosecutor at the same time, instead of defending the basic issue here, which has nothing to do with Stormy Daniels, is the issue of the perversion of the prosecutorial process for a straight partisan purpose that is, in fact, not only not legal, but illegal.
That is the issue, and for the putative Co-leading candidate for the Republican nomination for president and a distinguished governor.
To bobble the ball as badly as that I think it seriously affects his campaign.
I'd be astounded if it did not.
Assuming he makes his campaign.
We know he's running, but this is a former Judge Advocate General Officer of the U.S.
Navy, so based purely upon that, he should find this utterly egregious in terms of law and order in America.
Exactly.
He is a law graduate of Yale, isn't he?
So even if he'd never been in the Judge Advocate General's office, he learned as a freshman in the Yale Law School, and would have known before he got there, that this is not how prosecutors behave.
Is this something he can shrug off, or will this create lasting damage for his potential candidacy?
I can't say that it sinks him in one shot, but I think he could either Do better with supplementary comments and start to, you know, get on side on the issue and do damage repair.
Or it's going to be a real problem for him.
I think as of now, unless a larger question, which is quite possible, emerges between now and the nomination or the effective determination of the nominee will be in about a year's time.
Unless a larger issue emerges, or unless he does some damage control, I think he may have seriously compromised himself.
This is an absolute life or death issue.
I mean, if you can't be unambiguous on this, you are not fit for the great office of president.
Lord Black, you have suffered at the hands of corrupt prosecutors in the United States, and you know President Trump.
If we have this arraignment in the next few days, how do you think it'll affect him?
Will he be more motivated than ever?
He will be absolutely indomitable.
I think his courage is not at issue, and his motivation is unquestionable.
Some will say it's megalomania.
I don't think so.
I mean, he certainly has an ego, but he's a very determined man, and he has a very clear sense of the rightness of his campaign not to be denied the presidency By illegal activity.
I mean, I think, well, it would bitterly disappoint him if he lost an election fair and square, he would accept the result.
But I think he feels an issue as important as his life itself is that he has a right not to be sandbagged.
He has a right to a fair electoral assessment under the laws and not to be knocked out of the race or severely disadvantaged in his ability to make the race by an abuse of an official position in an illegal way.
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...to be a grown-up.
I mean, just to be a grown-up.
Yeah.
He was sort of smirking and... Yeah!
I mean, I meant what I said at the end there.
If he doesn't do damage repair or isn't superseded by a more important issue, I think he's done it to himself.
I think he's in trouble.
I think people have seen through him.
Conrad?
Are you there?
Is he still on the line, Jeff?
The line's open.
Conrad?
Hello?
I think he just cut out.
Calling back?
It was kind of like that, I think.
Sorry, I lost you there.
We lost you there for a few seconds.
I remember that guy, Howard Dean.
Yes.
I think that was his name.
And he was the frontrunner for the Democrats.
And then he gave that ridiculous thing and he started shouting about, you know, yelling at his supporters like as if he was at a football game or something.
And he just paid it.
You remember that?
Yes.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's right.
But I think it's a bit like that.
I may be wrong, but I think DeSantis really put a gun to his own head with that answer.
Just, what do they say, an unforced error, right?
Yeah, yeah, an open goal, yeah.
Good stuff.
Thank you, Conrad.
Okay, right.
God bless, bye bye.
It's great to think about how far we've come that in 2004 that stupid little scream was enough to sink Dean's entire campaign.
Like, these days that would not make a difference at all.
Like, more people would like him because of something like that these days.
What's the date today?
21st of March.
Another DeSantis unforced error.
All the DeSantis-ciples like to tweet another DeSantis win after every little thing he does.
Yeah, it's weird language that almost makes it sound like it's not really his fault.
Or like...
It was a DeSantis win.
It's funny they all say the same thing.
Weird, isn't it?
It was weird after he got endorsed by Chip Roy.
Everyone said it was quite extraordinary that he was endorsing him before he entered the race.
Just crazy that that many people had the same language.
It's almost like... And again, the thing, they get so mad when you suggest, oh, you might be being paid or this is coordinated.
They get so mad when you suggest that.
Right.
Wonder why?
Uh, title for Lord Black.
Um... Something about DeSantis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh, successful... What did he say?
Um... I can't read my scribble.
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Continuing research.
Okay.
Azura187 in the chat points out, DeSantis has not even declared his run yet, but he could not resist that, is very telling.
Shows a bitterness and weakness.
Shows what?
A bitterness and weakness.
Very well worded.
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Here we have, they're trying to convince a lady that she needs to get vaccinated and Fauci just lies to her face.
I'm not going to get it yet.
I'm waiting for them to be able to.
Oh, you should get it first.
Okay, that way you won't give it to them.
Oh, I thought I thought I would give it to them if I get it.
No, no, not at all.
In fact, we got to get you vaccinated so that if you were to get infected, you could pass it on to them.
So you're actually protecting your family by getting it vaccinated.
Hey, Mr. G, did you hear that?
If you get vaccinated, you can't infect anybody else and you'll never catch it again.
Yeah, that is spreading misinformation.
Wow!
Wow!
That's... Yes!
Yes!
Fauci!
He is spreading misinformation.
Maybe the DHS could cancel him.
Maybe they could remove him from social media.
I wonder, does he even have any social media accounts?
Let's go to your calls and numbers.
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Mike, Detroit.
Welcome.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Dr. Gorka.
He's kind of like an evil Alfred E. Newman.
I mean, this guy.
That's good.
That's good.
Fauci is an evil Alfred E. Newman.
That is actually perfect.
Nicely done.
Nicely done.
Well, you know, and also, you know, I can tell you one reason, you know, starting with the bedwetting Russian collusion story, which is just mind boggling to begin with.
One reason I think they're so obsessed with President Trump, to his great credit, he exposed these people for who and what they become.
It doesn't matter if it's a Democratic Party or their constituencies, which would be rejected immediately outside of the umbrella.
Right.
of the Democratic Party or the deep state or mainstream media, academic.
He exposed all these people for who and what they are, and they can't stand that.
And then I think also they're terrified they're gonna be held accountable for that. - No, I think that's absolutely right.
I think you're absolutely right.
And we owe it so much to President Trump for showing them to the world for who they are.
But stay on the line, Mike.
We have to give you a signed copy of Defeating Jihad because that's so true.
Fauci is the evil Alfred E. Newman.
Let's go to Illinois.
Joe, line two.
Dr. G. Yes?
Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky in her little blue dress, Tara Reid.
Oh, my God.
I would love nothing more than to see Trump show up at a Sweet 16 playoff game and just have the whole audience shouting, Trump, Trump, Trump.
Yeah, if you want to talk about the war on women, then there's one party that has been engaged in a war on women since, well, even before Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo Kopechny, and then went off to have a nap in his hotel, and then in the next morning decided to call his father to say, yeah, I did something bad, Daddy.
A man who would later be lionized Would be celebrated literally as quote, the lion of the Senate, a man who killed a woman That he was having a dalliance with.
Thank you, Joe, for giving us the reminder of all of those names of ladies who have been abused, raped, or otherwise ill done by the Democrats.
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What you are doing, you are making a monkey of the president.
The quorum, please.
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It's been seven months.
You've not called on me.
The quorum.
I'm saying that that's not right.
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If you have grievances, you should bring them to her later.
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- He is being something wrong. - You guys have not done anything wrong for me. - If you have grievances, you should bring them to her later. - I have done that.
I have done that all my emails have been in. - And the press corps is tired of dealing with this.
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all the time and you don't decide what it is to sit here for eight months and be discriminated against.
You understand that you're in the front row and you feel comfortable and you get questions all the time.
And there are people in the back who don't get any questions.
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Right, is the book already out?
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Right, is the book already is the book already out?
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The open border policies are killing Americans and they're even killing the illegals who are trying to cross the border and often dying in the process.
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He'll explain why.
It's Parents of the World Unite!
How to Save Our Schools from the Left's Radical Agenda.
Ian Pryor, welcome to America First.
Thanks for having me.
Are you a Marxist, Ian?
I am most definitely not a Marxist, but you know, I do talk about rules for radicals in the book, and I think this book is really a strategic guide for parents.
They always want to unite everybody and bring the revolution, so rule number three in my book is flip the script.
We'll take your rules, we'll take your ideas on how to organize, and we will organize a bigger movement of parents that actually stands up for constitutional rights in this country, specifically the rights of parents to be involved in their children's education.
You know, throughout our struggle here in Loudoun County from 2020, 2021, even to today, you know, we've learned a lot of lessons.
And I think we've been effective in highlighting, you know, bringing a spotlight of accountability to our school board.
And it was important that we spread this message really across the country.
All right.
Well, you've been fighting in Loudoun County.
Everybody needs to check out the book, Parents of the World Unite.
But one of the titles, one of the chapter headings, I want you to explain because I think it's It's what we don't do well, and that is the generation of a narrative and getting people on board.
And it's Chapter 5 or Rule 5.
Turn your fight into must-see TV.
Explain that, Ian.
Well, you know, as I put in there, every battle needs an element of publicity.
I mean, you cannot inspire change in the darkness.
So, you know, whatever you're doing, it's important to get that message out there.
You need to win hearts and minds.
You can't really just be speaking to You know, your own supporters all the time.
You need to be on television.
You need to be speaking to the media.
You need to be going to school board meetings and giving speeches that don't just speak to the issues, but inspire people everywhere to take up this banner.
And, you know, in May of 2021 specifically, you know, we had dozens of parents going to school board meetings, but there were a few in particular that were just fantastic.
And this was really when things started to get moving in Loudoun County.
We had one woman, Chantel Cooper, who gave an amazing speech at the Loudoun County School Board meeting.
I took that.
I tweeted it out.
I think the video had something like 4 million impressions in about a day or two.
And she, overnight, was on television talking about what was going on, talking about her experiences.
And we would just rinse and repeat over and over again.
Every time somebody gave a speech that we thought needed to get generated out there to the public, we made sure they saw it.
And that helped bring attention to Loudoun County.
And you know, the other thing, a lot of people on the left would say, well, you're just doing this, you're just using this to win an election in 2021.
No, I saw it the exact opposite way.
We were using an election and the publicity and spotlight that came with it to highlight the issues that we were trying to highlight.
And it worked, and it worked both ways.
It ended up having a major impact in the Virginia gubernatorial race. - Yeah, so one of the things that we haven't learned by reading "Rules for Radicals" or Saul Alinsky is how the radicals, the leftists, they're always on message and they're always fighting When they win, they don't take a break and go on vacation.
One of the chapter titles, I'll read two of them, don't let them off the ropes and don't be overtly reliant on past success.
Explain why we don't, you know, take a victory lap after victory and say, okay, it's done and dusted.
Well, you know, the left has been working on the education system for decades or more.
You know, if you think that You've had success over the course of a few months or a course of a few years.
That success is going to turn into failure pretty quickly.
And, you know, the story I told there, as far as don't let them off the ropes, we had great success in October and November.
Certainly with the election, one of the school board members that we were looking to remove stepped down.
And again, they kept saying, well, you're just doing this for political reasons.
No.
So what we did was we redid petitions to make them stronger.
And right after the election, I showed up to the school board meeting and said, now we're in court with you, chairwoman.
And then a week later, we filed another petition and said, now we're in court with you, vice chair.
But moving to the next rule, we followed the same strategy that ultimately resulted in the first school board member stepping down.
And you know, the left figured it out.
They figured out a way to, you know, work the back end of the system and get a prosecutor who would come in and ultimately dismiss those cases.
And, you know, perhaps if we had done something different, perhaps if we had waited for Attorney General Meares's investigation to complete, we would have had a different result.
But it's a good lesson that, you know, you cannot be reliant on your success in the past because the left is great at adapting and they will exploit that.
What is your message to those parents?
We've only got a few seconds left, Ian, who say, I'm not a fighter.
It's not up to me.
People like Ian Pryor can do it.
Well, you know, I would say it's going to come to your doorstep sooner or later.
And, you know, that's rule number one, right?
Every neighborhood is a battlefield.
And I'm not saying turn every neighborhood into a battlefield.
It already is.
There are people that, they're going to look at what you believe, they're going to look at how you raise your kids, how you live your life, and they're going to say, no, you need to do it the way I want you to do it.
And if you don't do it that way, you're going to be canceled, you're going to be ostracized, and you're not going to be a productive member of society anymore.
And it will come to your doorstep if you're not ready to fight.
Every, every locality, every school board, every school district is a battlefield.
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David, welcome to America First.
Oh, thanks, Doctor.
Listen, what's his name in Florida?
What's that guy's name?
DeSantis.
Yeah, he finally proves himself to be the swamp creature that he is.
I must tell you that I don't want Trump to ever do what I'm going to tell you, but years ago, when Kennedy was debating Johnson, they were on the debate stage.
This is really great.
Johnson got up and was telling everybody how great he was, how he'd be a good president, and how the world would love him.
And when Kennedy took his turn, he turned around and he said, looked at Johnson, said, he is everything he says.
He's a great man.
He'd make a great president.
And then Kennedy said, I'm just the better man.
And I thought, what a great thing to say.
DeSantis has proved himself to be like the bushes.
He's nothing to worry about anymore.
For me, The insult was just, it was ridiculous.
I felt bad.
Do you think, look, I agree with you, David.
Do you think everybody else will also see through him?
God, I hope so.
Because, you know, the wings, I mean, the angelic person that he thinks he is.
Yeah.
But, you know, he's a one-horse pony.
The guy, he's in one state.
I hope so.
I'm praying that's the truth.
Well, not only is he a one-horse pony, everything he did he copied from President Trump.
Even Bill Maher, that reprobate, even he said last week, why would you go to a concert by the Tribute Band if the original band is still playing, David?
I agree.
And the one thing he never copied and he can't is the courage that Trump has.
Trump's a winner.
He's a champion.
He keeps moving forward.
If you X-rayed his spine, it'd be a jelly donut.
Nicely put.
Thank you, David.
Great call.
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Impressive.
Most impressive.
See things you people wouldn't believe.
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We've won again!
This is good, but what is best in life?
The open steppe, the fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Wrong!
Conan, what is best in life?
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.
That is good.
That is good.
And to hear the lamentation of their women.
No, it's not an Amanda Milius interview.
Calm down, guys.
You are on the right episode today.
We are making movies great again.
Of course, we always use that cut whenever John Milius' daughter, my former Trump administration colleague, is on the show.
But today, we're actually going to celebrate Her father and that movie with my co-host, my good buddy.
He is the host of the Mr. Regan channel on YouTube.
He's doing a quasi cosplay outfit today, although I don't think those are wolf skins.
Chris, welcome to Conan the Barbarian.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have to thank you for picking this film.
I don't think I've seen this film since I was 10 years old.
It used to play on TV all the time on the local station in Oregon, and we only ever got the rated PG TV version.
What a treat to see the full thing.
You know, the massive amounts of nudity, the massive amounts of violence.
Really, really.
Decapitations galore, cannibal stews, you name it.
Cannibal stews.
I never understood that that was a cannibal stew until watching it this time.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so let's start at the end, if I may, with regards to, you know, your reaction.
For me, this is iconic as well.
So this comes out when, you know, I'm a teenager originally in 1982.
And for me, it's kind of had a A legendary place in the panoply of my childhood, my teen years.
But as I watched it yesterday, and I sat down and I watched it from beginning to end, it changed in quality for me, Chris.
This wasn't a cheesy exploitation movie with, you know, ropey sets and bad writing.
Dude, this is a really good movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's really an epic film.
Yeah!
Truly epic.
I mean, you follow the hero's journey from the moment that he's changed as a little boy when his family is slaughtered by his enemies to the point where he finally gets revenge as an adult.
And watching that journey is truly cool.
I mean, my ancestors are barbarians, right?
They're the German barbarians.
He's not exactly that, right?
He's not exactly a historical depiction of a Germanic barbarian, but I was thinking about that when I was watching this, and I think part of the reason why this film is so good, because you did have cheaper quality, you know, films of this type at the time.
The sword and sorcery genre.
Exactly.
That didn't do quite as well.
Why did this break out?
I mean, first of all, Schwarzenegger, of course.
Magnificent performance there.
There were some other magnificent performances, which we'll get to.
I think the attention to detail, right?
And I think that comes down to John Milius deciding, we are going to put this in a northern European setting, even though they shot it in Spain, right?
But we're going to make this a northern European warrior, just like the books, just like the historical barbarians.
And he did seem to try, at least, to make some semblance of something that a historian would recognize as the life and times of a barbarian.
And I think it really comes through.
That attention to detail, I think, really does come through.
Yeah, this is so – let's just give credit where credit was due.
Milius was obsessed with this stuff.
With Genghis Khan, with weaponry, with battle.
As we mentioned on our review of Red Dawn, this is a guy who demanded to be called the General on set when he was making that movie.
and for him this was a story it may have been a fantasy setting but it was the vikings it was a combination if you ask him uh and he is still around today god bless him this is like the samurai meets the vikings meets the grain great danes and
Beyond that, if you look at what they did with the production value and Ron Cobb, who, you know, was involved with Alien and an amazing design, production designer, this world, Chris, this world is complete.
From that temple at the end to the city to the, you know, the wheel where Conan is, you know, lashed to the mill for 15 years.
This is a whole universe, Chris.
Yeah, I remember when I was a kid being struck by how profound that scene was.
Even as a child, I understood the visual depiction of him aging.
And as he gets older and he's pushing this mill, he's getting older and his friends are dying off.
The other slave boys are dying off, and he's the only one that survived, so he has to push it alone, but he's just massive now.
He's grown so big that he can push this whole thing that used to take, whatever it was, 20 children.
It's now one man, but he's a very big dude, obviously.
That's such a brilliant depiction.
As a boy, I didn't really like this movie that much.
I did like it, but not compared to some of the other films.
You know, it just didn't have the color palette.
This film was mostly just browns, right?
You watch something like Star Wars and there's like, you know, green blaster fire, red blaster fire, you know?
You got the slick black and the slick white suits of the Empire.
This film was just basically all brown.
It's this muddy, muddy color tone, right?
And I didn't really like that.
I also didn't really like... Most of the fantasy fiction that I like, or I always liked as a boy that I read, was based on some kind of historical myth.
Right?
Arthur or Robin Hood or something like that.
This is a myth that's drawn completely out of nowhere.
I heard John Milius talking about how the writer believed that the ghost of a barbarian named Conan the Barbarian used to stand over him with an axe at night.
And tell him, write my story.
And so he used to quickly write, in real fear.
The guy was a little crazy, right?
Robert E. Howard, died age 30, was, you know, graphomaniac, wrote the short stories.
Only wrote one novel on Conan, but he created a whole universe.
Milius loves to tell this story, which is apocryphal of, you know, Conan's spirit standing over Howard's shoulders.
He writes it all.
Oh, is this not a true story?
Uh, it has not been verified, but it's typical Milius.
I mean, that is the typical embroidery that Milius likes to throw in to, you know, spice up his projects.
He sounds like he believes it when he says it.
Oh yeah, he's good.
He's a good pitchman.
He's a good pitchman.
But yes, and originally this was meant to be a barbarian.
Who highlights for us the discrepancy between the noble savage and the hypocrisy of civilization.
This is what all the stories are meant to be about.
It becomes an amazing pulp fiction novel series after his death in 36 or 37.
In the 50s and 60s becomes massively successful.
Then transitions into Marvel Comics, becomes a very famous Marvel comic.
And then they try and make the movie, and for five years they try and make this movie, Chris.
And just think of this.
Some of the people they offered it to, Ridley Scott was one of the original directors who was offered this movie.
That would have been a very different film, don't you think?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Well, you know, and that's probably why, even though it's not based on some kind of historical mythos, why it works so well.
You had the novels, and then you had this massive series of comic books that were massively successful, and then you had all these writers come on, like Oliver Stone, who wrote some kind of bizarre sci-fi version of this, right?
Which was meant to be one of twelve.
Stone says this is going to be the new James Bond, and we're going to make twelve of these movies.
Well, you know, it does kind of play out like a James Bond film a little bit, right?
Like, you know, I mean, not exactly.
Obviously, it's a much different setting, but you've got his development towards the beginning, you know, him seeking out revenge, seeking out the villain.
He finally comes to this villain at the very end.
They have the fight at the end, and he is victorious.
A simple, simple story, but played out very, very well, very elegantly shot.
And yeah, it could have been one of 12.
It really could have been one of 12 in this movie.
Absolutely.
This could have become a franchise.
We only had one other movie than Red Sonja.
We'll talk about what happened to this piece of property in a moment.
But we are making movies great again with our co-host, with our buddy Chris Coles.
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All right, let's start talking about the cast.
We have William Smith playing the blacksmith who is the father to Conan.
And here we have, well, it's about steel and it's a riddle.
The gods forgot the secret of steel and left it on the battlefield.
And we who found it are just men.
Not gods.
Not giants.
Just men.
And the secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery.
You must learn its bitter corner.
You must learn its discipline.
For no one, no one in this world can you trust.
Not men, not women, not beasts.
This you can trust.
What an incredible, incredible performance.
So, um, hypnotics, you know, the manly man.
Do you recognize the actor William Smith and, uh, where we saw him most recently, Chris?
No, I don't.
But you know, the funny thing, you mentioned how good this performance is.
It's actually a relatively small part of the film, right?
It's, it's, it's just this little sliver of this film and it's so epic and it's so well done.
Excuse me.
Yeah, bless you!
That's what you want to see on a radio show.
Live radio!
He's sneezing.
That's what you want to see.
Okay, just brilliantly done.
I mean, this is what you can do with such a small part, right?
I mean, this is truly a great actor, this man.
What has he done recently?
Well, this is the interpreter, this is the interrogator, the intelligence officer, in real life, in the Korean War, who was Colonel Strelnikov in Red Dawn.
Do you remember the Colonel who...
Of course, of course I remember.
Another Milius movie, another buddy of Milius'.
He came back and did Red Dawn, because this is first.
Right, he gave him a big wig, massive beard, but just, you know, and that scene on the top of the mountain with the clouds going by.
It could have been so cheesy, so fake, but it just works.
The connection between the son and the father.
Alright, talk to us about the rest of the cast.
You mentioned some great performances.
I'll give you my input, but tell us about the supporting actors.
Yeah, you know, I was really struck by The King.
This is played by a man named Max von Sydow, and I had actually not really heard of this guy before.
I've obviously seen him in many films, and I just haven't heard that name.
What an underrated actor.
I mean, I don't know all the stuff that he's been in.
I couldn't list you all of his films, but I know I've seen him in many, many projects.
And what a fantastic performance.
When he's talking about how he's got all this money, he's built up this massive kingdom, but all he cares now is about his daughter.
That's all he cares about.
It's actually a touching performance, weirdly, in a, you know, sword and sorcery film.
You wouldn't expect something like that.
There it is, you know.
And his wardrobe is magnificent.
Just a really great scene.
Yeah, one of my favorites.
Max von Syder, the Swedish actor, one of my favorites of all time.
The guy who relished this role because whether it's three days of the condo, whether it's brass target, whether it's the seventh seal, this is a guy who was given very, very straight laced Unemotional parts for decades.
He was either playing knights, or he was playing hired assassins.
You know, people with just ice water in their veins.
And then here, he's got a piece where he can chew up the scenery, like he does in another Dino Dino Laurentiis movie, where he plays Ming the Merciless.
Max von Sydow as Ming the Merciless in Flash Gordon.
I think that's a movie we may have to review as well.
But I've never seen Flash Gordon.
I've never seen it.
I've never seen Flash Gordon.
But I know Ming the Merciless, of course, of course.
Famous, famous character.
That was Max von Sydow as well.
And the one thing they left out of the final version of the movie is there's a scene where Max von Sydow is murdered by his own henchmen.
So the king is killed.
I guess it didn't propel the plot forward in any way, shape, or form.
But if you're interested in the deleted scenes, check that out as well, because it's a very Milius scene as well.
Sandal Bergman, the dancer who plays Valeria, pretty good performance.
I mean, she brings the emotion, especially after Conan has been crucified.
And a woman who is underrated as an actor, if not as a dancer.
Oh yeah, I mean, I'm watching this film, and as a kid, all I cared about were two things in movies, right?
If there was an adventure, if there was some kind of an adventure, which this definitely has, and if there was a beautiful woman.
That's the only two things I cared about as a little boy.
And yeah, as a little boy, I cared about beautiful women.
If you're out there and you think little boys don't care about beautiful women, you are wrong.
As a kid, I just loved beautiful girls in movies.
And she wasn't really my type.
I mean, I do like beautiful blonde women, but for whatever reason, there's something about it that I didn't find particularly attractive.
So I'm watching this movie and I remember that.
I remember that when I'm watching it this time.
But nevertheless, she is some.
And also, I didn't like that she was American.
That bothered me as well.
The accent.
This is the accent bothered me actually quite a bit.
But as I'm watching it, she won me over.
I'm watching this movie, and as the movie progresses, I find that she is a beautiful woman, and I do actually kind of find her attractive, and part of the reason is because, unlike modern films, Where they have a strong female, you know, warrior or whatever it is.
She still retains her femininity.
She's still a woman from the beginning to the end of the film and she does it so well.
You know, she's got that sexiness, but she's also got the strength and the skill with a sword.
It's just a fantastic character all around.
They did it right in the 80s.
And there was something, you know, there's a little 10% of magnetism.
There's something that, you know, you talk about that star quality, you're kind of drawn to her.
There's a little bit of extra kind of that Q coefficient that says, oh, yeah, I want to watch more scenes with her in it.
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It is Conan the Barbarian.
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All right, let's talk a little bit about the world that was created by Mr. Howard and also the man who I think, probably more than anybody else before the movie, helped us to visualize this world of Conan, and that's the artist helped us to visualize this world of Conan, and that's the artist So let's put up some of these incredible images.
These were actually the covers of the novels in the 60s and 70s that I think, along with heavy metal in France, kind of Help to define a whole genre.
So you don't get Conan, you don't get sword and sorcery, you don't get that whole subculture of media and movies without this.
Here's Conan, the aged Conan the King.
This is a whole world in and of itself, isn't it Chris?
Oh yeah, you know, everybody in the documentary that I watched, the sort of behind-the-scenes documentary, talked about these images, these paintings.
And back then, back in like the 70s, that was a really big deal.
If you had amazing cover art, you mentioned Heavy Metal magazine.
They made a Heavy Metal movie, and I just watched a YouTube video comparing the Heavy Metal movie with Fifth Element, the movie Fifth Element.
And they essentially ripped off the heavy metal movie, almost scene for scene in some cases, with the fifth element.
And it was just, they'd had that kind of influence in the 1970s that people don't really remember, I don't think.
And I certainly didn't really understand this until I got, you know, much older, because I wasn't around back then, right?
So I didn't know about it.
I was unaware.
So one of these things gets lost in time.
We lose our perception Of the things that influence the things that we love sometimes, and this is definitely influenced by that kind of thing, that kind of beautiful art.
And they created, you know, they add it to it as well in the scene at the end when they go in and they attack the cannibal feast.
I love this.
I've never seen before anywhere the camouflage.
You see that the three of them, you know, peek their head up over the parapet and they've all got this Two-color camouflage that comes actually out of World War II.
It makes me think instantly of this naval dazzle camouflage, where you just disrupt the pattern.
You don't have colors.
You have black and white.
You just have weird black and white stripes.
And they said, OK, well, let's paint Valeria.
Let's paint the thief.
Let's paint Conan in this black and white camo.
And it just works.
It's striking, isn't it?
Yeah, and they kind of repeated that in Braveheart.
They did something very similar with Braveheart.
And, you know, you have to use your imagination.
This is a fantasy world, but it's set in, you know, maybe pre-Roman or Roman times, but these are barbarians.
These aren't civilized people in, like, you know, the Roman civilization.
These people are still barbarians.
How would these people have You know, what would their traditions have been like?
How might they have painted themselves for battle and this sort of thing?
And, you know, you have to use some kind of imagination.
This scene here, if you go back just like two seconds, Eric, the man they talk to before they raid the Snake's Temple, the guy in the hat, that's actually Ron Cobb.
That is the production designer for the whole movie who worked on Star Wars, on Alien.
He had like the 20 second cameo in the movie.
Milius actually had a cameo in the movie that he thought was So pointless.
He cut... Chris, John Milius cut himself out of the movie.
Now that's very unusual in Hollywood, isn't it?
Oh yeah, very unusual.
I mean, in terms of, like, egos?
Yeah!
You know, like, look what Tarantino does.
He puts himself—maybe the worst actor in the history of cinema—still insists on putting himself in every film that he makes.
Well, not so much anymore.
I, in fact, just wrote a short film, and I put it on my YouTube channel, Mr. Reagan.
I just sent it to you.
The five-minute one?
Yeah.
And I play both parts.
Wow!
That's the ego here.
Did you get scale times two?
Yeah, yeah, I paid myself twice.
All right, well, I'm going to post it.
It'll be on my Twitter feed, my Facebook feed, my true social feed, so you've got to check it out.
Go to our social media feeds and you'll see Chris's new movie where he plays both parts and pays himself twice.
If you enjoy what we do here on America First.
There was a time, boy, when I searched for stew.
And steel meant more to me than gold or jewels.
The riddle of steel.
Yes.
You know what it is, don't you, boy?
Shall I tell you?
It's the least I can do.
Steel isn't strong, boy.
Flesh is stronger.
Look around you.
There.
On the rocks.
That beautiful girl.
Come to me, my child.
That is strength, boy.
That is power.
That is strength, boy.
As an actor, from the perspective of the acting professional, Chris, talk to us about this performance because this is something else.
It's so easy to go too far and to have it all collapse, but man, doesn't James Earl Jones bring it?
One of the things that I love about the performances in this is that they take it seriously.
idea a total fantasy film and yet they act with such passion and they take it seriously and and as much naturalism as you can present in such a picture uh james earl jones uh what an odd choice for this character right yeah a black man in europe but then they give him this straight hair this bizarre wig which is another reason i didn't like this film as a kid because he was such a weird looking dude with a haircut And the green eye contacts!
Yeah, and the green eye contacts!
Just a bizarre guy, but what a performance, really sells it.
I mean, when you have access to a talent like James Earl Jones, of course you're going to use it, right?
So they bring in this guy, fantastic actor, fantastic actor, And they really do create this sinister monster.
You know, not only does he cut off the head of his mother as a child, but then as the film progresses, you see he's like a wizard of some kind, and he can... He's a snake!
He's a snake.
He can transform into a snake.
Metamorphosis, right?
And he can actually hypnotize you.
If he stares at you, he can hypnotize you.
And he almost gets Schwarzenegger at the very end.
And look, this is a very simple story, you know, and he clearly embodies evil.
And that speech when he says, flesh, flesh is stronger than steel, to some degree this goes against Schwarzenegger's, uh, Conan's father's teaching, right?
His father's teaching him, you know, you can trust nothing but steel.
You cannot trust man, you cannot trust woman, you can only trust steel.
This is somewhat analogous to, like, Christ being tempted by Satan.
You know, this is an idea of the Christian warrior, the Christian man being tempted by evil.
You know, the James Earl Jones character is the embodiment of evil.
They did that so well in the 80s, where they would just clearly show either evil as we know it in the world, or a metaphor of evil, like in this film, and they would show good, or a metaphor of good, and they would just pit the two against each other.
And, you know, what a brilliant way to do it here in this film.
And, you know, you can't not love a story that's just good against evil, you know?
Yeah.
And this scene that we're showing right now from the beginning of the movie, where not a word is said, not a word is said, the boy is holding his mother's hand, Thalsedun, He hypnotizes her, he turns away from her, and then he spins and cuts her head off.
And you just see the mother's body fall to the side and the boy, the young Conan, is holding his hand up and the hand is now empty and he stares at it.
I mean, that's good writing when you have that level of drama, of conflict, and not one stinking word is said, Chris.
Yeah, yeah, brilliant.
Yeah, and really well performed by the boy and the mother.
I mean, even without dialogue, his mother's a great actress, whoever that actress is.
She's a model.
She was a, this is for your benefit, a Russian-Polish model.
Okay, yeah.
If I were around back then, yeah, I would have dated her.
All right, impressive stuff.
And then the other thing that I just want to do a hat tip to, the fight scenes, Chris, especially at the end on the Henge, this is, you know, you don't doubt for a second that people are getting pummeled, that the horses are, you know, falling down.
This is a dangerous movie.
In the orgy sequence, I would argue that it would be a difficult sell for a modern audience, right?
Because there's a lot of moments, there's a lot of moments when you can clearly see no one's getting struck, you know?
Right, the blood bags.
But at the end, at this, the Henge battle scene?
They make up for it.
They more than make up for it with this sequence, which, by the way, you can actually sense the strategy, because they have moments in which Cohen and Standing, they're waiting for the horsemen to come and attack him, and then his buddy jumps out from the side and, like, nails him from behind a rock, and vice versa, right?
And they do this a few times, and you realize, oh, this is actually a very clever strategy that would have worked at the time.
And John Milius says in this Behind the Scenes documentary, I never wanted to be a director.
I wanted to be a military general.
And you can see that strategizing coming in, and that would have worked.
You know, I think that sort of thing would have worked back then.
Just two men against an army.
And that prayer to Crom right before it, whether you, you know, this is what you love, two men against many, you know, be on our side, that wonderful prayer.
And then of course, that utter suspension of disbelief when Valeria comes back as a Valkyrie angel.
You know, the glint in the sunshine that distracts the bad guys.
So, just fun all around.
Guys, if you haven't seen this in a while, if you've never seen it, you've got to do it.
This week, you've got to check out Conan the Barbarian.
The OG, not the other ones.
We'll talk about those in a second.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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All right, we've done the OG.
We've done the first movie.
We should note there was, of course, with that crazy woman, what's her name?
Grace Jones.
There was Conan the Destroyer that came afterwards, which is fun.
It's a little bit less serious.
I think they probably, you know, PG'd it down a little bit.
Then when there were issues over copyright, And the usage of the name Conan, they took another character from Howard's novels called Red Sonja, played by Britt Nielsen, and Conan came back as somebody else, but it's the same kind of genre.
And then we had TV shows, cartoon shows, we had an attempt at a remake, and they were all garbage, so avoid them like the plague.
But let me ask you the question, That you have mentioned again and again and again when you're enjoying a film, you said, Is this a world I'd like to live in?
Is this a world you'd like to live in, Chris Coles?
Are you ready for some bare-chested, sword, swashbuckling lifestyle?
Absolutely not.
I would much rather live with my iPhone.
Come on!
You're of this stock, aren't you?
Aren't you like a Visigoth stock?
I am, yeah.
This is my ancestry.
Well, listen.
Somebody the other day said I made her uncomfortable.
And this is really weird.
I said something that made her uncomfortable, right?
I just said something she didn't like.
You said, I know Sebastian Gorka.
And she immediately said, that makes me uncomfortable.
This is an old friend of mine.
I've known her for many, many years.
You know, there was like an inkling of potential dating at some point.
Never happened.
We became friends, we're good, we're good.
But she said, you made me uncomfortable.
This annoyed me.
This bothered me that she used this word specifically, uncomfortable.
And I realized that this was, this is a trendy word.
This is something that's maybe been used for the last five or so years by people who just, they don't like something.
So they say, this makes me uncomfortable.
And you know what I think is wrong with the world today?
We live in too much comfort.
You look at the folks, the Antifa thugs, right?
These are some like wealthy kids that grew up without any problems, you know what I mean?
Stress and discomfort actually make you a better human being.
I almost tweeted this.
Maybe I'll tweet it today.
You should.
What does discomfort create?
It creates strain.
What is uncomfortable?
It's uncomfortable to lift weights.
It's uncomfortable to run marathons, to do cardio, to stay fit.
It's uncomfortable to eat healthy food.
It's uncomfortable for some people to read books, like, you know, books that are maybe a little bit beyond your understanding.
It's uncomfortable to be self-aware and to think about your own shortcomings and failures and to try to succeed more and to push yourself and to grow.
Any kind of personal strength develops from discomfort, maybe not that much discomfort.
We just saw a guy get brutally, brutally murdered. - The massive punchy stick to the thorax.
Not that much discomfort, no. - But you need a little discomfort to grow and to be a good human being, I think.
And this idea that we live in a world in which you've always got to be comfortable all the time, I think it's a mistake. - So what has that got to do with Conan?
- Well, you know, maybe sometimes we should live in a world like Conan where we have to do battle.
Yeah, for me, that phrase, what did you say?
You make me uncomfortable?
For me, that's like a life cop-out, right?
Yeah.
It's just a cop-out.
So what?
Suck it up.
If you don't like my politics, debate me.
If there's something you don't like about my character, challenge me on it.
But to say you're uncomfortable, that means you're reneging on your responsibility in life.
And to go back to a certain riddle, about steel.
It is the hardening process.
The tough experiences create the metal that hardens the steel, does it not, Chris Coles?
I love that.
I love that outlook.
It's a well-said version of the garbage that I just spewed.
It's the accent.
You gotta work.
Although, I have heard you do some Antipodean and British accents, so you can do it.
Although, I will say, Sebastian Gorka and I, in CPAC, we both had to give a speech at this little event.
Well, you sort of graciously did so, but I was being asked to do it.
I gave my speech.
That Sebastian Gorka gives his speech, and all I could think of was, ah, crap.
Like, you are so good at speaking.
When you address a room, my friend, everybody has to listen.
Well, it helps that I shouted very loud at the beginning, shut up, to everybody, because they were being noisy at the back of the bar.
That's a true story.
You did say that.
You gotta grip their attention.
Alright Chris, we've reviewed the movie.
What do we give it?
Marks out of 10.
How do you rate this?
In the panoply of movies we've reviewed.
How many movies have we reviewed already?
How do you rate Conan?
Conan's a tough one to rate because it's such an iconic, legendary film.
I don't know if you can take the legendary status.
It's so unusual.
It is an unusual film.
There's not a lot of films like Conan.
It's kind of its own genre.
I know there's other films within the genre, but none of them are anywhere near this good.
So this is beyond 10 out of 10 for this, you know, sword and sorcery genre.
It's like, you know, 11 out of 10 or more.
So I don't know how you rate this film, but yeah, it's a classic.
It's a great, great film, and everybody needs to watch it.
It needs to be part of your repertoire, as it were.
80s classic.
Watch it, guys.
If you've seen it already, revisit it.
Okay, who gets to choose the next one?
I get to choose the next one.
Ah!
What's he gonna do?
I know, I've made a few mistakes in the past, but I'll tell you what, I gave you a choice a while back.
I gave you a choice a while back, and you picked probably the wrong one.
But that was also my fault, because I gave you those options.
But let's pick the other one.
Of those two.
I don't know how much you love this film, but I love this film.
It's been talked about to death, but we're gonna do it.
The legendary Ghostbusters.
All right.
I'm glad you remember that.
Yeah, I had a choice between Ghostbusters and Back to the Future.
Mad Max.
Oh, Mad Max.
And I chose Mad Max, but we're gonna do... We should have done Road Warrior.
Had we done Road Warrior, I think it would have been more fun.
Or even Thunderdome!
I think Thunderdome, you know, is super fun, but, you know, these aren't, you know, iconic 80s movies, but Ghostbusters, absolutely.
Where do you stand on, I gotta ask you, the Ghostbusters versus the Ghostbusters 2, where do you stand in that divide?
Oh, well, Ghostbusters is obviously a classic, a legendary film, Ghostbusters 2, an inferior sequel, but I do think that it gets inappropriately, you know, it didn't do as well as it should have done, I think, because at the time, People just were expecting the legendary Ghostbusters again, and they got sort of a continuation that was a little bit inferior, but I think, if you look back, it's an excellent movie.
It's actually a pretty good movie.
I'm glad you said that.
We won't have time to review both of them, but I do think that Ghostbusters 2 has had an unfair wrap, but next time...
It's going to be the OG Ghostbusters, and I can't wait!
I get an excuse to watch it again.
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