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	�� I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen. -
	It is always a pleasure to sit in for Seb, and I get the feeling, and maybe you guys have it too, every day seems crazy, doesn't it?
	Every day there is more insanity, and the government's out of control, and the world's going crazy.
	And we're gonna dig deep into that, like we always do.
	But before we get there, we had a loss this week to the country And I think it's one of those interesting ones, because it's the last original member of Lynyrd Skynyrd, Gary Rosington.
	Great guitar player, wonderful person.
	He was the last founding member of Skynyrd, and he died this week.
	So in honor of that, all the bumper music, ins and outs and all that, is going to be Skynyrd.
	Because, my opinion?
	They are the greatest American band.
	They have the greatest anthem ever after the Star Spangled Banner being Freebird.
	One of my best friends used to, when he was driving into school in the 80s, if he heard Freebird on the radio, he'd skip school.
	Now, if you lived in the 80s and you listened to album-oriented rock, you know that was about a virtual certainty that in any 30-minute window, you were probably going to hear Freebird.
	So it was a gimme.
	So I just want to say goodbye, Gary.
	Welcome, you know, to heaven with the rest of your boys.
	I hope the band from Jacksonville is jamming hard up there.
	Now, back to the craziness in this country.
	CPAC happened last week and there's been a lot of commentary about it, myself included.
	I think the interesting thing that is going on is obviously there's a two-horse race.
	Now there is one giant thoroughbred Trump horse who is the likely nominee and the likely winner.
	He is well ahead in every poll and all the rest of those things and he's got One unannounced challenger and then a bunch of little yikers or Shetland ponies who are basically running so that they can get book deals or maybe get a Fox contributorship or something like that.
	But Ron DeSantis is the other potential nominee and there's been a lot of controversy about that.
	There was actually some interesting scraps going on at CPAC, one of which I was involved with, about whether or not people who believe in America First, which I do with all of my heart, should just back Trump, or should we have a primary, should we test this out, should we see, and I'm one of these people, Who is the candidate of those two who is most likely to win the general?
	Because it's not about the primary.
	It's not about pleasing all of us.
	Trump has earned my vote.
	If that's all it was about, he got cheated his entire first term.
	He got attacked.
	Everything about what they did to him was reprehensible.
	And they stopped him in so many ways from doing the good things he was trying to do.
	And even in the face of an unprecedented or unprecedented attack, He still got so many good things done.
	He saved the republic by appointing three justices.
	I could not possibly have more gratitude for what he did and the fact that if in a good world he would have gotten a second term and I believe he deserves one.
	The 2020 election was garbage.
	So take all of those things together.
	If it was just a question of should Trump be the next president I would vote click yes Donald Trump next president.
	However Everybody in the country has to vote.
	We have to vote under circumstances that are not ideal.
	And we have to beat whoever they put up, which doesn't look like it's going to be Biden.
	If I had to guess, I'd say somebody from our side, Trump or DeSantis, is going to run against Gavin Newsom.
	And that slimy, weaselly, greasy, cally loser happens to be a really good politician.
	And that means we have to be prepared to win.
	We're not gonna be running against bumbling, stumbling, dementia Joe.
	All right?
	If that was the case, I would say Trump's a shoo-in.
	Put him back up again and let America choose the correct person for the job this time, which Trump over Biden is a no-brainer.
	I don't think it's going to be that though.
	So I think we need to look at one thing.
	Who can win more votes than Newsom or whoever else the Democrats pick?
	And that, in my mind, is the only standard.
	I'm not never Trump.
	I'm not never anything.
	I'm never Dem.
	If I have to choose something, I will not vote for a Democrat, and I will do anything in my power to go ahead and make sure our team prevails.
	So here's my ask for the America First crowd here, the very MAGA crowd, the very Trump supporting crowd.
	Tell me why Trump can win.
	Not why he should be president, because I agree with you 100% on every, probably we have zero distance between us on any of the issues.
	I think he would be the best president.
	Why can he win now?
	What's different from 2020?
	You know, what's going to make a difference?
	Has he won voters since 2020?
	Has he figured out a way to make sure that we don't get beat by ballot harvesting and all the rest of that, considering that we've still got incompetent Ronna McDaniel You know, Mitch McConnell and McCarthy as the leadership of our political machine.
	The same losers who lost our last couple of elections are still in power.
	And I'm sorry if they don't fill me with confidence that somehow the same thing is going to turn out with a different outcome.
	So I want to hear.
	I want to hear from America.
	First of all, America, you people.
	Why can Trump win?
	What is what is the difference this time?
	How is he going to win over the Republicans who don't like him?
	Then there's plenty.
	How is he going to not energize the left?
	Considering that they hate him so much, it's almost a religion.
	It is a religion for many of them.
	And so a lot of them will come out.
	What's different?
	And so I'm going to ask in the second segment and on throughout the show, if you have a take on why Trump can win, I want to hear it.
	And my mind's not made up.
	I think DeSantis deserves a chance.
	I don't think he deserves a nomination.
	Nobody's won my vote on that yet, which is why we have primaries, not coronations.
	So let's do it.
	Let's figure out why.
	And that's the whole point of this, is we need to strengthen our platform.
	What is the new platform?
	Now Trump's speech at CPAC, if you haven't watched it, watch it.
	It was outstanding.
	The things he said, the things he promised and said he would do, I would sign on to that in an artificial heartbeat.
	And I think it's a great start.
	I think it's a great platform.
	Honestly, I would take it right now.
	If we went to the convention and took the bullet points out of Trump's speech, dropped them on the table, and added a little bit of burning down some buildings in D.C.
	and emptying them, defunding everything, all that.
	And there was some of that in there.
	But a little more.
	You can always do a little more.
	I would take that to the public and make that case.
	I think one thing that happened when Biden gave his State of the Union, Sarah Huckabee Sanders gave ours.
	Governor of Arkansas.
	She gave our response and she said one thing that I think everybody should take to heart as we go into this next competition.
	She said, this is a battle between normal and crazy.
	And we know who's who.
	So that to me is, if you put that in your mind, you know, as you talk to people, as you go to backyard barbecues, as you argue with your family, your friends, whatever, as you try to win converts to our team, as you try to make sure, you know, as most of us who are engaged in this game, and I consider the listeners of this program to be the shock troops of the MAGA America First world, How do you win those arguments?
	And I think pointing out that we want normal and they want to destroy normal and install crazy, horrible, racist, you know, queer pedagogy, queer activist, indoctrinating kids, grooming, all of the things they want to do.
	They want to destroy normal.
	We want to retain and conserve normal.
	And that's the difference.
	It's normal versus crazy.
	And I like that.
	If that's her line, good on you whoever came up with it.
	But write it down.
	It's now a meme.
	Find it.
	Grab it.
	Use it.
	Remind everybody that there are two opposing viewpoints.
	And it ain't right and left.
	It ain't conservative and woke.
	It's normal and crazy.
	All right.
	Dr. G should be back tomorrow.
	We're going to have a lot of fun.
	We've got some great guests.
	We've got John Solomon.
	We've got Jen Horn.
	We've got a bunch of folks who we're going to dig into some of these issues with.
	We'll be back after the break with more America First Radio.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	It's been a while, Rumbler, since a guest hosts a lot of the breaks on.
	Yeah, because I might say something funnier.
	I don't have my filters on.
	That's not what I really do.
	That's what the breaks are for.
	Yeah, no.
	It's funny.
	I still have my streak intact.
	I've never sworn on any national broadcast event of any kind.
	That's good.
	I know.
	Part of it's now my wife has convinced me to stop yelling and dropping F-bombs every time I bump into something in the house.
	So I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, at least at some level.
	Speak of the devil, too, this Draft2Santis ad that's constantly on Fox News now.
	They're airing it again.
	The ones with, like, Ed Rollins.
	You see it?
	No.
	I don't watch Fox.
	Well, there's too much of the call of the numbers on it.
	It looks like a...
	You see it, like, ready for Ron.
	Oh, God, that was it?
	That was a horribly tacky looking ad.
	It looked really cheap, yeah.
	CGI, like, horrible green screen background behind Ed Rollins, who's like 100 years old.
	Is he still allowed to do that?
	I guess it's legal.
	I guess.
	I actually saw that air on Newsmax a while ago when I was watching State of the Union coverage.
	They were playing that ad as well.
	Were they spending Ken Griffin, the hedge fund guy's money?
	Probably.
	I didn't see the State of the Union.
	I was away.
	You don't have to watch the State of the Union because it was Biden talking.
	He wasn't going to say anything.
	And the nice thing about it is someone will make fun of the good parts.
	That was the week Jeff was away in Cabo.
	Yeah, I was stuck in the airport for a six hour delay that I was informed of right after I got through security.
	I kept going two hours, two hours, two hours.
	No, that ain't right.
	By myself, because my wife had left, because she flew back here, I was going to Phoenix.
	I met five different people at the restaurant I was sitting at.
	That's how many people were coming in, and then how long I waited.
	Was the food at least good at the restaurant?
	It was alright.
	I know it's airport food, but like, yeah, as long as it's enough to get me through.
	I kind of miss, I mean, when I was younger and still a drunken monkey, any time I got anywhere near air travel, the challenge was to get as drunk as I could through the whole thing.
	You know, sleep on the plane after they cut you off.
	I kind of miss that.
	Just a little bit.
	They used to do, when I was in college, it was a double for a dollar more.
	It's no longer that at airports.
	Nobody parties like they used to.
	Gen X was the last generation in this country that partied like rock stars.
	Well, I'm a millennial, but I was the last.
	I'm 40.
	I was the very first.
	Dude, I'm telling you, I don't care how hard you tried.
	We dominated.
	I think we got two, or, well, you're a millennial too, right John?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The late, the mid to late 80s, actually the early, the whole 80s, was a dominant.
	I think Seb is technically Gen X, I think, by numbers.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It, it, well, if you want to know, Gen X starts on my birthday in 1964.
	Right.
	You said you were the first.
	I am the lead dog of Generation X. Now, I will invite people who might be a little bit older, but you have to go not by an arbitrary date, but by how people lived.
	And Gen X was living like the X Games.
	You know, we invented it.
	The reason those things are sports now is because we were doing it for fun.
	We were climbing buildings.
	We were skydiving naked.
	You know, all those things.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, I am Jim Hansen.
	You can find me on Twitter, causing great and grievous bodily injury, literally, and I guess virtually, at jimhansenDC.
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	Alright, I asked for some help figuring out what Trump's appeal this time around should be that's different.
	Yeah, Jim, you know what my thing is with Trump going to win?
	There's very few presidents.
	I think it's time to take a call.
	Why don't we go to Line 1 Dean from New Jersey?
	Yeah, Jim, you know what my thing is with Trump going to win?
	There's very few presidents.
	I think he's the only one that got 11 million more votes on his second term running for president than the first one.
	Obama got less.
	Everybody that won got less.
	So right then and there tells me that we should pay attention to how we voted.
	And I think the Republicans know how to use ballot boxes now.
	They know how to use the mailing system.
	I bet you that every single Republican, MAGA Republican, is going to go out there and it's not going to be election day.
	It's going to be election month.
	And that first day of election month, Trump is going to win.
	And I think that is a great point.
	I think there is somewhere in the 5 to maybe even up to 8 to 10 percent of votes left on the table because we weren't playing by the garbage rules that the Democrats made up.
	So we sat that out.
	You know, we even at some level said, don't do this.
	You know, and you lose votes that way.
	We need to be in the nursing homes.
	You know, we need to be every place you can mail a ballot to and go knock on a door.
	We need a Republican volunteer signing somebody up, making sure they get a ballot, making sure they voted.
	And I think I think election month until we get this turned around is a great idea.
	So there we go.
	We're one for one.
	That's a good reason that Trump could go.
	I want to jump now.
	We got Alex from Brooklyn.
	Hey, Uncle Jim.
	Thanks so much for taking the call.
	I actually agree that Trump is not going to be able to make it.
	I think ballot harvesting was a factor in the midterm election, the 2020 election as well.
	But I think if you look just at the state of Georgia, where you had the Trump supporter lost, and Brian Kemp, who was the governor, the incumbent, who was the anti-Trumper, he managed to win in that state.
	They had ballot harvesting and early voting and all that.
	So I don't think that that is as much of a factor.
	I think it definitely had an effect.
	I just think we've got to be realistic, and I'm glad that you're bringing this up, because Trump is the best president ever, and he would be the best president ever if he only could make it, but I don't think he can.
	I think it just doesn't have the numbers.
	The Democrats hate him so very much because of some crappy stuff that the media talks about, and they use his words, and they play around with it, and they exaggerate it.
	And again, I have that concern, and I want to caveat that concern with what you said.
	I just don't think he can make it. - Well, you know, and again, I have that concern, and I wanna caveat that concern with what you said.
	I think he was a brilliant president against incredible headwinds.
	So I think all that is fair, and I think that's what we need to throw into play.
	But I think we've got to also find some new messaging and some new reasons to get people out to vote.
	And this is too good.
	We've got to go to Phil from Philly.
	Hey, thanks for taking the call.
	I made the hairs on the back of Dr. G's neck stand up last week when I suggested that Donald Trump needs to just leave Republicans alone and concentrate on the venom on Democrats only.
	And for starters, maybe those 50 people that signed the letter that Hunter Biden's laptop was Was Russian disinformation, where are they now?
	Just pick apart, just the communists take over this country.
	But what I was talking about was, what I called about was, I went through the Constitution last week and did it in word format.
	Constitution, all the amendments.
	One word was missing, one key word.
	Border.
	These brainiacs figured out every type of situation they could, and they didn't put border in there.
	So since there's no border in there, why not There's nothing in there also that says that governors sitting on top of oil-rich states can't drill their own oil.
	I mean, these governors need to drill.
	He's not going to Nord Stream.
	And if he did, that would be the straw that breaks everybody's back.
	That would be the end of his regime.
	I think you brought up a good point.
	So the Constitution doesn't mention specifically the border.
	I think probably because at that point in time, You know, it was understood that a nation had a border and it was allowed to decide if they wanted to shut it, if they wanted to not care, you know, and those kind of things.
	But I think it's fair to say now that there is an empowerment.
	At both the executive federal level and the executive governor level to go ahead and act like we have a border and to act like, you know, the things you said, like, OK, if you got oil in your state, drill.
	And I think that's another thing that I would like to hear from Donald Trump is federalism is our friend.
	All right, we can't change everything.
	We put too much weight, a lot of times, on doing things at the national level.
	We're a constitutional republic for a reason.
	And part of that is, number one, we don't want to let the big states run roughshod and the big cities run roughshod over those of us who have different ideas.
	And I think right now we've seen you've already got migration going to the correct directions out of blue states into red states.
	You've got red state governors passing laws against child mutilation, you know, doing things that basically assert their power because they are closer to the voters than the federal government.
	And so I think another good thing that President Trump could do in talking about his reelection campaign is to say, we will continue to push for more power to go down to a lower level.
	We'll do what we can at the federal level, but we're not going to rely on that because you've got so much you got to take out of play.
	You got to kill the deep state.
	You got to do all the rest of that in order to get there.
	So I think we had a good start.
	Let's continue this conversation throughout the show and continue to do the best we can to field the best candidate to defeat the Democrats.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio, and we will be back after the break.
	It also really does come down to a matter of campaign strategy as well.
	Like, how do we even approach 2024?
	I actually got to talk to Scott Pressler at CPAC and I told him, you know, my very blunt, like, pragmatic, number-crunching strategy.
	I say we ditch Pennsylvania and Michigan.
	I say those states are not worth fighting for anymore.
	And all you need, assuming he holds Florida, Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina, just flip Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona.
	That's 272.
	That's all you need.
	That's a bold move.
	I mean, but.
	It's consolidation because I'd rather not spread our resources to states where we're not going to win.
	I mean, Whitmer won by 10 points.
	That wasn't just voter fraud.
	That was, that was a real victory.
	Pennsylvania.
	Yeah, I know.
	Because Fetterman barely won, but Shapiro won by like, what, 15 points?
	Right.
	I mean, and it's messy.
	That's a messy state at best.
	Yeah.
	And the key there being is the reason why I say those states in particular is Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona.
	We did have Republican statewide victories there.
	Like, Wisconsin really had a red wave other than the governor's race.
	Like, they picked up seats.
	And he's such a pencil-neck geek.
	I don't understand how that guy won.
	I don't know either.
	He was the only governor up for re-election whose numbers were underwater.
	I don't know how he won either.
	That was probably fraud.
	Milwaukee.
	Yeah, I would say that was a Milwaukee.
	And Georgia.
	We need to be more white-filled about Georgia.
	Georgia is trending back in our direction.
	Walker was the exception, not the rule.
	All the other Republicans statewide won.
	And Walker was an atrocious candidate.
	And Warnock was the best possible candidate.
	And even then, he only barely lost by three points.
	So, yeah.
	And then Arizona, you had that, yeah, Carrie Lake, I know, but you had that one race for the state superintendent of schools where the incumbent Dem was ousted by a Republican by, like, one point margin.
	And then also, I guess, their state treasurer was reelected.
	That's just, I mean, that's 272.
	You lose.
	You got to pick one or the other.
	You got to pick.
	I would probably, if I had to, go at Michigan.
	Just I would agree to throw one of the two out.
	And you can flip a coin.
	Yeah, I would say also maybe try for Nevada as a nice little buffer zone because it's only six electoral votes.
	But we did have two victories there last year as well.
	So I would say again, that's a state that's winnable.
	But I... Is Harry Reid dead?
	Yeah, he's dead.
	He's dead.
	They renamed the airport in Vegas after him.
	Ghost of Harry Reid is still fixing elections in Nevada.
	But still, yeah, that's why I would say, I mean, at the very least, you just go for what you need to win, man.
	Don't try to go for a landslide.
	That's, again, I think all these things have to be in play, and I more than anything wish that we had a more Less loser-based establishment, you know, machine.
	And I don't have a lot of faith in them.
	You know, it's easy to say, oh, well we'll run these things and we'll do this.
	Yeah, I don't trust the RNC one bit to run this.
	Not with McDaniel in there, no.
	She bought all her friends, you know, to re-elect her and consequently now she has to pay them and they suck!
	You know, that's the problem.
	It's not even, you know, that they wouldn't do something good.
	They wouldn't know how to do something good.
	If it occurred to that, they should try.
	And, and I don't know, I don't know how we turn that around and take things we've never done well.
	And now, Oh, we were saying we're going to do them, but we're going to pay the same idiots who have lost for us so many times to do something different.
	Nah, I don't know.
	It also comes down to messaging too.
	And that's, I mean, I was warning for a while that like the GOP turned right back to.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
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	Hey, listen, I want to keep talking to the America First crowd and continue to do our planning as to how do we win the next election.
	Let's jump now.
	We got a call from my favorite state, California.
	What about Eric in San Jose?
	Hello.
	Hey, Eric.
	Hey, how are you?
	Great.
	Thanks for the topic.
	I just wanted to say that I really think that the Republicans have done a great job in establishing the, you know, the undertone that there's been a lot of subterfuge going on in the past, and actually, which goes on historically, I think.
	And I really think that it comes down to there are a lot more people, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, that may actually say that they're going to vote one way but vote another, because it's very much oriented toward results.
	I think post-polling may be a more accurate measure of why someone voted for someone after the fact than would be pre-voting polling.
	Because of the fact that, you know, there's a lot of people change their minds.
	And I think that the Republicans have established it pretty well, a good undertone about, you know, the nuances of elections and how they've been manipulated.
	I think that's a fair point and I don't think you can poll America anymore.
	I don't think there is any way you can poll people in the United States because we're too fragmented communications wise.
	So I think it's a fair point to say that we don't know what the electorate wants and that makes it more difficult to focus the message.
	So I think that's another thing we need competent leadership in our political machine is how do you figure out who's who?
	All right, let's go to the good old-fashioned Rust Belt, Cleveland, home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
	Steve, what you got for me?
	Hi, Jim.
	Great to talk to you.
	Yeah, I've been a conservative all my life.
	And in 2016, I really supported Ted Cruz and didn't think Trump could win.
	But then after what all happened, looking back at it, Trump was the only one who could have beaten Hillary with everything that was thrown at him.
	And I think this time around, too, He's the only one that won't wilt the way that Romney wilted.
	Even, you know, I love Ron DeSantis, but the stuff that they're going to throw at Ron DeSantis to choose a nominee, only Trump can overcome that.
	Also, in 2020, I'm not going to argue about who won or not, but he won 18 out of the 19 bellwether states, and that's kind of an indicator.
	- Ian, the other thing is when you're looking back on 2016, we were, some of us weren't so sure whether Trump was gonna be, you know, America first, and he turned out to be America first in space.
	That's the reason why he got a little annoying. - Well, you know, and I think that's a great point, because in that kind of fight, and it's not that I think DeSantis will wilt, I think he could take it too, but Trump is such a good counterpuncher that when they come at him, it's usually, it backfires and they take a shot to the jaw.
	And I think this is going to be, as much as anything, a counter-punching situation.
	And he's so good at that.
	And I think he also will be getting to speak for himself, as opposed to just having the media talk about him for a while.
	The American people have not heard him talk about this country in the way he talked about it at CPAC.
	And as he does on his stump speeches, because they aren't paying attention yet.
	So when it comes time again, For Trump to be Trump, there's nobody better at talking to the American people about the issues that matter to them and making them feel like it's you and me.
	You know, it's you and me.
	He's looking you in the eye and he's doing that, Donald Trump.
	So I think that is a huge strength of him and another reason why he would be a great candidate.
	So good.
	I'm really enjoying this.
	I'm going to keep this up as much as we can, because I think it's a good time to talk about this.
	And, you know, there's stupid stuff going on elsewhere.
	We'll get to that.
	Trust me.
	This is Jim Hansen, Jim Hansen DC on Twitter.
	We'll be back after the break with more America First Radio.
	Okay.
	I'm in up next segment, right?
	Yes, we do.
	You know, it's interesting.
	I feel like there's some some good stuff coming out, you know, of the reasons why.
	But I also think there's a slight undercurrent of it.
	There's less virulence about Trump.
	I expected, you know, a little bit of anger.
	I think realistically what it came down to is it was it was like January 6th, right?
	January 6th happened.
	In the weeks and even a couple months after that, his numbers tanked.
	And then a few months later, they rose right back up.
	It's same with DeSantis obviously got his biggest boost out of winning a landslide re-election.
	His numbers rose, Trump's fell a bit.
	But now, a few months later, that's kind of worn off, and now, it's back to Trump.
	Well, Trump had a bad couple months, too, then.
	He's kind of turned it around the last couple months.
	The Mar-a-Lago thing, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And just seeming disinterested.
	DNFTs, all that.
	Oh, for God's sake.
	But the point being, he always comes back!
	He's Teflon Don.
	Sweppy can't do it, and Joey Kelly's got another hit.
	Who else should we try for that third hour?
	Were we going to try for Beatty, or no?
	Oh yeah, that's right.
	I'll try him.
	You'll have a lot to say.
	Plus we can see what his hair looks like today.
	Right?
	Hey guys.
	Hey John, how you doing buddy?
	How are you?
	We are good.
	How are you?
	Life is a Shangri-La.
	As it should be.
	I've got two pretty good FBI stories this morning.
	I saw one of your stories.
	You got something front of mind.
	I know I had one of your stories I wanted to talk about.
	I've got two pretty good FBI stories this morning.
	One of them is the growing number of FBI whistleblowers are saying that the bureau is using threat tags to terrorism threat tags to cancel conservatives.
	They've applied them to school board parents protesting to Catholics and to several others.
	So I can go into that.
	And then there's a brand new revelation.
	I just got a hold of Loretta Lynch's testimony in the IG investigation of Russia collusion.
	So seven years after it started, four years after it ended, she reveals in this belatedly released information that the FBI originally wasn't going to investigate Donald Trump at all.
	They were going to give him a defensive briefing and then the FBI went off the rails and went in a different direction.
	And so that's a fun one.
	Imagine if that had happened.
	Let's do that.
	They basically derailed his ability to have a positive presidency by putting him on defense wrongly from Jump Street.
	Cool.
	All right.
	Those are beautiful.
	What's killing me is there is so much evidence coming out of government abuse of power against our side that I've got like six different pieces of, you know, you got the DHS stuff, you know, I mean, I don't even know what to say.
	We all knew it was going on.
	And there was a lot of stuff at the hearing today on Fauci too about how Fauci I think you're right.
	I think you're exactly right.
	It's crazy.
	Painful.
	Well, good.
	I mean, we got to start talking about it.
	We do.
	Let's do it.
	All right.
	Cool.
	leaked from a lab, literally using the resources of the government to create a false story to protect himself.
	So I can get to that as well.
	You know, we could do probably three hours on government abuse of power against the RT.
	I think you're right.
	I think you're exactly right.
	It's crazy.
	Painful.
	Well, good.
	I mean, we got to start talking about it.
	We do.
	Let's do it.
	All right.
	Cool.
	We're 30 seconds out.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Do you want to do another read here, Jim?
	No, no, no.
	E-segment, probably.
	Because we did, we did both for this hour, right?
	That's right, yeah.
	I'm clean for the rest of this hour.
	Good stuff.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Good to be with you, everybody, and I am especially happy to be joined this segment with John Solomon, who is the proprietor of Just the News.
	They do the actual investigative work and dig into the many bad things going on, one of which is more evidence of government abuse of power to attack political opponents.
	This is the FBI, shockingly, but a different version of their ongoing stuff.
	What do you got, John?
	Yeah, Jim, good to be with you.
	This is a really important thing.
	What we're hearing from multiple whistleblowers who have gone to Congress, gone to the Inspector General of the Justice Department, is that FBI ideologues are beginning to use a thing called threat tags.
	Threat tags are normally reserved for terrorists or extremists who are likely to commit violent acts against Americans.
	And these threat tags are now being used.
	We first heard about them.
	They were applied for a period of time until it was called a mistake to parents who were protesting curriculum changes at school board meetings.
	Clearly not terrorists, right?
	Then we heard recently that the Richmond office of the FBI did a memo that applied threat tags to Catholics who preferred Latin mass.
	I'm not sure why preferring a Latin mass would make you a terrorist.
	But for a while they did.
	The FBI said, oh, that was a mistake.
	Now a new whistleblower has come out in the last couple of days and said the same thing was going on.
	They're applying threat tags to anti-abortion pro-life activists.
	Now, what's really interesting about this is that there was a threat tag originally created for pro-abortion forces who were threatening death to Supreme Court justices who were talking about reversing Roe v. Wade, which they did.
	All right.
	That's a legitimate use of a threat tag.
	If someone's actually thinking of assassinating justice, that is a legitimate use.
	But very quickly after the abortion threat tag was created, it was flipped around by ideologues, according to this whistleblower, to go after pro-life activists who had posed no mortal threat.
	They were not making any threats of damage or assassinating someone.
	Again, another sign of the bias, according to this whistleblower, three or four instances in a very short window of time where threat tags are being applied to really political opponents of certain ideologues in the FBI.
	Deeply concerning.
	We had Jim Jordan talk to him about this yesterday.
	He said it's one of the most scary things he's seen.
	We've got to stamp this out of the culture of the FBI, he said.
	Now, it's weird how these always seem to end up going the same directions.
	So they accidentally, you know, and I think they may have rightly had to do their jobs, and I don't mean to crap on all the FBI, but you know, okay, protecting the Supreme Court justice is great, but the rest of them almost always seem to be going our direction because there is only one kind of hate crime or domestic terrorism or extremism that they're interested in.
	Now, when they put a threat tag on someone, that allows increased surveillance and other government tools to be used against citizens, right?
	That's exactly right.
	It puts them in a to-be-watch list.
	Let's consider the Catholic memo, which, by the way, was withdrawn after we reported on it.
	But let's think about it for a second.
	What the next step was after this memo went out from this intelligence analyst, who, by the way, used lots of woke language in there.
	For instance, they didn't refer to women who were pregnant as mothers.
	The analysts used the term pregnant people as though there were more than one... Birthing persons.
	Yeah, that would have been the next term.
	But the next step in the memo was that FBI agents should start embedding themselves in Catholic groups that prefer to go to Latin Mass so they begin spying on what is clearly a protected religious activity.
	That is the danger here.
	These threat tags start a process of criminal investigation.
	When the threat tag was used against parents, there were at least 14 parents I believe is the number, Uh, that the FBI opened up investigations on.
	Why?
	We don't know.
	We had another FBI whistleblower recently who said that people who had simply gone on a bus to Washington D.C.
	around the time frame of January 6th, not even certain they were going to the January 6th rally, right?
	Just going on a bus to Washington on a given date was enough for headquarters to press Boston FBI to open up criminal investigations on all 400 of those Fortunately, in the case of that instance, the FBI office in Boston held the line, would not bend to the pressure, and ultimately won.
	They didn't open up investigations on people who had done nothing wrong except buy a bus ticket, but that's the sort of thing that goes on here.
	Once the threat tag and the threat analysis comes in, other tools of the government begin to be applied, and that's what's so concerning to people like Jim Jordan, Andy Biggs, Senator Ron Johnson.
	They don't like This excessive targeting of conservatives using tools that were reserved for terrorists and enemies of the state.
	You know, and speaking of using tools against a member of the state, President Trump, you've got some more information and another story about how the decision was made to investigate Trump and how that was actually just a politicized thing, which we all knew.
	But again, now it's coming out this much later that that also was purely politically driven.
	Yeah, this is a very important thing.
	Citizens United, Dave Bossie's conservative watchdog group, filed a FOIA lawsuit, four-year battle, they finally got some early documents.
	What these are, are interviews that key players in the Russia investigation gave to the Justice Department watchdog, the Inspector General.
	And what the Attorney General Loretta Lynch, former Attorney General for President Obama, Joe Biden, revealed is that the effort to begin raising questions about Donald Trump and Russia collusion began much earlier than July 31, 2016, when Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the now discredited Russia collusion when Operation Crossfire Hurricane, the now discredited Russia collusion probe.
	It actually began in the spring, and it began with the New York FBI office opening up a counterintelligence inquiry on Carter Page, one of the advisors to Donald Trump.
	And though this would be a low-level thing that, by the way, raises a lot of questions in itself because Carter Page was a CIA asset, no reason to suspect he was up to wrongdoing, it got all the way to the top of James Comey and Andrew McCabe very quickly.
	That's odd.
	Very odd for that to come in.
	And they go to Loretta Lynch and say, hey, we may have a problem with a Trump advisor.
	Just letting you know, sidebar conversation.
	But probably the right thing to do is just give Donald Trump a defensive briefing.
	Let him know that there might be Russians targeting his campaign.
	Now that would have been the right thing to do.
	But that's not what James Comey and Andrew McCabe ultimately do.
	They open up, ultimately open up that crazy investigation that gets discredited and it basically turns out to be a political dirty trick carried out by Hillary Clinton and her team.
	But imagine how much history could have changed If back in the springtime, Andy McCabe and James Comey did what Lynch suggested, and just did a defensive briefing three years of the Trump presidency, probably wouldn't have been squandered.
	Yeah, and that scorpion you're giving a ride across the river is gonna snap you with that tail every single time.
	They're leopards, they can't change their spots.
	John Solomon, Just The News, they are doing the work to dig this stuff out and publicize it.
	Thanks for all you do.
	My pleasure, Jim.
	Great to join you.
	Right on.
	Well, hey, we're going to get back to your calls in just a little bit after the break and talk a little bit more about why we need Trump.
	But I'll tell you, one of the reasons I think we could really use Donald Trump again is he will shut some of that stuff down.
	He will burn down some of those programs and get the deep state out of our business.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	We will be back with more America First Radio.
	We will be back with more America First Radio.
	Now I can say that, but also if you look at what he's done in Florida, it's not like he's been a shrinking violet.
	He fired an attorney.
	The main problem I have with DeSantis, the idea that he could get anything done is obviously in Florida, he has a whole Republican legislature that's overwhelmingly Republican.
	They'll pass any and every bill he wants.
	Also, it's one state, so he doesn't have to worry about a thousand judges.
	You know, some gay judge in Hawaii can issue an injunction the moment he sneezes.
	The moment he becomes president, he's got to deal with Congress, with Romney-type rhinos, and judges anywhere that'll block everything he does.
	And I'm not convinced he will basically say, screw these judges the way Trump basically did.
	You know, and that's a fair point.
	Although I think one of the things I think he will do is just go ahead and pick fights whether you're going to win them or not.
	You know, that's what he's, a lot of what he's done in Florida is, look, this is an issue.
	This is something we're all involved in and, you know, invested in, and I'm going to take action.
	And if they come back at me with a judge or whatever, so be it, you know?
	And yeah, granted, he's got a more level playing field in Florida, but that doesn't mean, I don't think that means he would all of a sudden decide, I'm not going to do that.
	Once I get the big, you know, bully pulpit, I think he would use executive orders.
	I think we do all the stuff that the left loves to do.
	And I think either one of them would.
	Yeah, but you know what?
	I think whoever fixes it is going to leave with about a 30% approval rating.
	Because it's so politically unpopular.
	Right.
	And that's why there will be people hollering in DeSantis' ear, don't do it because you've got to run for re-election.
	You know, I'd like to elect DeSantis to his second term.
	Right?
	And then he can do his first term after that.
	So we'll just flip him.
	So what we'll do, this is a re-election for Trump's second term and DeSantis' second term.
	And if DeSantis wins, he gets to run again for his first term.
	I'm still convinced the only two Republicans who would really take a sledgehammer to the deep state are Trump and Rand Paul.
	Oh my god.
	I love Rand Paul.
	He would burn the Federal Reserve down with his own bare hands if he could.
	He's fun.
	We did a fundraiser for him at our house, and I actually got to show him.
	I've got a Gibson guitar from when the Obama administration stole wood from Gibson and tried to declare that it was improperly imported, and Gibson fought him and won.
	You know, they won a lawsuit, and then they made these guitars.
	They made 300 special guitars called the Gibson Government Series.
	I got to show one of those.
	I got a picture of him holding it.
	So good.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Turn it up.
	Listen, we're playing all Skinner because we lost Gary Roslington, last original member for all the bumper music.
	But let's get back to part of the good old real America.
	And I want to talk to David in Tennessee about Trump DeSantis election 2024.
	What you got for me?
	Hey, Jim, how are you doing today?
	Great.
	Yeah, I wanted to talk about Trump's speech.
	I really liked everything about it, but I think clearly the most important thing he talked about was what he'll do with Ukraine, that within 24 hours he'll be able to negotiate a settlement.
	I mean, we need to get him in power tomorrow, not a year and a half from now.
	Do you agree that's kind of one of the most important things that he'll do?
	Well again, absolutely.
	I think one of the things everyone should think about when you're deciding who is going to keep us safe and prosperous and all the things that we want a president to do, how many wars did Trump start versus how many did he stop?
	Who did bad things?
	Did Putin invade anywhere?
	No.
	You know, did Kim Jong-un do much?
	Not really.
	You know, there was a lot of concern from tyrants around the world because they didn't know what kind of scunion Trump would bring back on them if they stepped over the line.
	Nobody's scared of what Joe's gonna do.
	You know, I mean, Putin obviously was not concerned about it.
	That didn't go well for him.
	But right now we're in a situation where Biden and his clowns keep doubling down on a losing hand in a war they already won.
	The war was won when Putin was stopped from taking Ukraine early on.
	When he got shut down immediately, and I said this to Sebastian Gorka on this show, That's where we are right now.
	last year that the end state in Ukraine was going to be Donbass, the Russian-speaking Russians and Crimea go to Putin and we make peace.
	That's where we are right now.
	I think Trump could make that deal because the second we pull our aid, Zelensky and his oligarchs are done.
	So I think rather than continue this push where we're trying to punish Putin and too many people are trying to punish Putin as a stand-in for Trump.
	He's the bad guy who they can get at and And so all of a sudden now it's willing, you know, it's worth risking World War Three.
	To take out Putin.
	And I'm sorry, I don't find that a convincing argument.
	And I don't see Vlad Putin as the kind of guy who's going to take a loss just because a lot of people feel like they want to put a loss on his record.
	What Russian leader is going to be the guy who lost a war to Ukraine?
	I don't think Vlad's going to be that guy.
	So the idea that they're going to push him out of Donbass and like Zelensky said, take back Crimea is crazy.
	So yeah, I would 100% support Trump coming in and on day one saying, we're done.
	You kids play nice or, you know, not, it's not that we're like, we're going to come in with troops.
	We're going to come in with nothing and shut you all down.
	So yeah, that's a good reason right there.
	Another good reason.
	And I'm enjoying this.
	You guys are coming up with good stuff.
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	Hey, Jen, how are you?
	Hey, good, how are you?
	Hey, Jen, how's it going?
	Good, how's everything going this week, guys?
	I know, sick day.
	I'm just going around.
	I had it too.
	Hi, Jim.
	You're there?
	It's that time of year.
	I know.
	That's Jen Horne.
	Yep, we got about, we got four minutes to go.
	Yeah, we got time.
	All the time in the world.
	And you need Skype, right?
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	Hello, hello.
	Jim will be back in just a little bit here.
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	Looks like it's windy here today, but it's not, I promise.
	Just a bad air day.
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	You should be able to talk to Jen now, Jim.
	Hi, Jim.
	How are you?
	I am well.
	I'm knocking over the microphone.
	It sounded like it.
	I know.
	That was very exciting.
	I'm a professional.
	Just don't spill any water on it and you're good to go.
	Oh my God.
	Well, you know what the nice thing is?
	I actually have essentially a recording studio at the house, so I could replace this microphone.
	Oh, that's good, right?
	You could just bring in a new one.
	Yeah, if I break one, I've got one.
	I've got the higher version of it too, but I'm not going to do that.
	So how are you doing?
	I'm good.
	Recovering from whatever Seb has.
	I had the same thing last week, so I am happy to be on the other side of it.
	It is You know, that's the only thing I, I avoid humans a lot.
	I don't, you know, my daughter's grown.
	We don't have grandkids.
	Thank God.
	Yeah.
	But I don't, if there's no kids around and I'm not running into people, I don't get sick much, but then you do something like CPAC.
	Oh yeah.
	And I'm like, I surprised I did not catch anything at CPAC cause I don't get exposed to germs anymore.
	It's, I'm telling you, it is.
	Kids are the worst though.
	I miss, oh my God.
	Kids are little germ bots, that's for sure.
	That's what they do.
	And I did not go to CPAC this year, but I had two speaking engagements, two Tuesdays in a row, and Pretty sure that's where mine came from.
	I just sent some to Jeff.
	Well, we got – I've got L.A.'s city council is being retarded.
	Who knew?
	I know.
	The story – I just sent some to Jeff.
	One of the big stories that's going on here is George Gascon has his first challenger in the race for district attorney next year.
	And he's also involved.
	He's been sued 17 times.
	And the L.A.
	County Court actually ruled in favor of the person in his office, and that person got awarded $1.5 million.
	So there might be something there.
	No, he's demoting people that he doesn't like.
	He's retaliating against people that speak out against him.
	Yeah.
	Let's do the Sanctuary City.
	Yeah.
	Why don't you talk about Newsom, too?
	Oh, we can't.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	And I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen. - Hey folks, I am delighted to be sitting in Seb's chair on a booster like I have to because he's such a giant that literally I'm six foot two and I am sitting on a booster so that I can be seen above the desk.
	But I can see Jen Horn on the other end of our Skype connection here.
	Salem Radio from the California end of the country.
	Welcome to the show.
	Yeah, we're from Blue State, California, but I love that you're sitting on the phone book today.
	It takes a real man to admit that.
	I love it.
	You know, everybody likes to play this game, oh, DeSantis wears boots, Marco Rubio wears boots.
	Okay, I'm six foot two.
	You know, it's hilarious to me that I have to do it to go ahead and get up to Seb's level, but hey, we're working on it.
	You want to hear a little funny Seb story?
	Yes.
	So the first time that I met Sebastian Gord, this was years ago, he came out to the Inland Empire.
	It was before he was even national at Salem Radio.
	This was when he had written the book Defeating Jihad and we had just had the terror attack in San Bernardino.
	You may remember that with that married couple.
	And so he had come out just weeks after that to do a book signing event.
	And you know, he's a big hulking guy and he's tall and he's got the, you know, that tough attitude when you first meet him.
	You know, he's got this big persona and the big voice.
	And it was very funny because I thought, wow, this is like, he's an intimidating presence.
	And then we went back to the green room and Jim, he whipped out his phone and he had a Minions phone cover.
	And I thought, this is my guy.
	It was like instant friendship at that point.
	I thought, OK, he gives that intimidating vibe, but he's got the Minions phone case.
	I can get behind that.
	There you go.
	There you go.
	Well, good.
	Well, hey, I want to talk about your homestay.
	My wife happens to be from Bakersfield, which is the Green Bay of California.
	Yes, indeed.
	I want to find out the zeitgeist out there.
	One of the stories we saw was your LA City Council out there is talking about becoming a sanctuary city again.
	Are they really going to go with this?
	Is that a thing again?
	Well, you know what's so funny is I read the same story this morning and I thought, wait a second, isn't Los Angeles already a sanctuary city?
	I mean, we've been doing, anytime you go to jail, the jails are not allowed to work with ICE.
	They're not cooperating.
	So essentially, why do we even have to make it official again?
	Because we've already been acting in this same vein.
	It's absolutely insane.
	I think that they run out of things to do.
	And now that they're going to end the COVID emergency, finally, at the end of March, so they think, what other thing can we get into?
	Maybe we need to revisit sanctuary fun again.
	I mean, you have so much craziness.
	You have the L.A.
	Fire Department and the LAPD all coming out in the L.A.
	Fire just recently, just today, actually, LAPD last month.
	Saying that they want to reduce the tests and the testing and the standards for hiring because they want to achieve equity instead of equality, and so they want to lower the standards so they can bring in more women, they can bring in more minorities.
	Here's the thing, I don't care what color you are, I don't care what gender you are, but I want you to be able to pass the test.
	Show up and know that I can- I don't think that's too much to ask.
	I don't think that's unreasonable.
	Unfortunately with Los Angeles and with the City Council I guess we are headed in the direction of having this conversation about the Sanctuary City even though we already are.
	So now one of the things I like because it's a garbage thing to do but I saw as a reaction to it Across the country, there were sheriffs and other people who said, OK, if we're going to place sanctuaries, what if we're a Second Amendment sanctuary in my jurisdiction?
	And either I'm going to, oops, I can't see.
	What is that?
	Is that a bump stock?
	I can't see that.
	I can't tell what kind of gun that is.
	Or they're just going to openly say, I'm not going to enforce unconstitutional things.
	And the difference between those two, which I think, again, as usual, resounds to our favor, Our people would be doing it in accordance with the Constitution, as opposed to the Cali version, which is, oh no, we're going to violate the actual laws and the rule of law to go ahead and play our sanctuary.
	A little bit of difference.
	Absolutely.
	And if our side of the aisle wanted sanctuaries for Second Amendment rights and for advocates and supporters, we'd be called extremists, right?
	We'd be quickly added to the domestic terror watch list, I am sure.
	It's so interesting, like, the double standard and how we just see the leftists, especially the leftists running California, just pick and choose which constitutional rights they want to play up.
	I mean, we've had, with that big decision by the Supreme Court with concealed carry, one of the big arguments in places like Los Angeles and in San Francisco is that the Sheriff's Department, and props to former Sheriff Alex Villanueva, he was handing out Concealed carry permits.
	But you had to give him a reason.
	Well, the Supreme Court says now you don't even have to get a reason.
	People are just allowed to have it.
	The sheriffs don't know what to do because the sheriffs in blue cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco still want to maintain the right to tell you that you can't carry outside of your home.
	So it is funny to watch them pick and choose which pieces of the Constitution they like and which they think are outdated.
	You know, it's that living, breathing document they love.
	No, it doesn't breathe.
	It's a dusty old parchment in the archives that we know all the words to already.
	And I think that's a fun one, though.
	That's one to keep and bear.
	Because if you go back to DC vs. Heller was keep, and now Bruin was bear.
	You know, and the idea that what good is the right if you got to keep it at home under lock and key?
	You know, what if I want to shoot somebody out there?
	You know, what if someone is trying to kill me while I'm going to the grocery store?
	I live in Arlington, Virginia, and within probably two miles of my house in the past year, there have been eight armed carjackings.
	Oh, come on.
	I'm sorry.
	You can't tell me.
	Now, fortunately, Virginia is a shall-carry state.
	So I think it's fun to have those arguments.
	I got to ask you one thing, though, because California is, I love to give it a hard time, but I just think it's a place where they may have gone too far and the backlash is coming.
	But I think your governor is going to be the Democrat candidate for president.
	What do you think about that?
	It's hard for me to honestly... Look, I think he really wants that and I think that he really wants it and he really wants it bad.
	I do still believe that the DNC sees some value in Kamala Harris, even though she is so unlikable and the people don't love her.
	She's being propped up by the DNC and I don't see how they can get rid of, because they love identity politics, a black woman in favor of a white man.
	I just I don't know how that's gonna work.
	He's got executive style hair.
	No, he's got executive style hair.
	If you look up central casting and you look up governor or plastic Ken doll politician, you're going to see, you will see Gavin Newsom.
	But the weird stuff with Gavin lately is that he loves to crow about all of his achievements.
	You've probably seen him.
	He wants to be president.
	You just mentioned it.
	Well, he's not giving a state of the state address this year.
	And one of my favorites, I follow this stuff closely.
	I've been doing California politics almost 10 years now.
	And Jim, I have never, ever, ever heard of Gavin Newsom having dyslexia, but apparently he's saying he doesn't want to do the State of the State this year because his dyslexia makes him uncomfortable watching the teleprompter.
	Now, I'm not a doctor.
	I am not denying that the governor has dyslexia.
	He may.
	But he has given speeches off teleprompters, and he has given a state of the state for the last five years.
	He's used a teleprompter.
	And by the way, if he wants to be president, he's going to have to use a teleprompter again.
	So it's very funny that this year he says he doesn't want to do a state of the state.
	And here's why.
	He has nothing to celebrate.
	That surplus he was crowing about?
	We now have a deficit.
	The homeless problem?
	Out of control.
	People living on the street.
	The roads are crumbling apart.
	And this Yahoo garbage bag goes to Mexico, to Cabo, Well, people are stuck up in their homes covered with like 10 feet of snow and people are dying while he's in Mexico.
	Did you see that Ted Cruz actually dogged him on Twitter about that?
	He should have!
	He said, I heard Cancun's nice this time of year.
	Because he did the same thing.
	But, you know, I would argue that a governor, when you have a snowstorm like we did, and it was unprecedented in California.
	People are still – they're still uncovering bodies because they're just getting into neighborhoods right now.
	It's really tragic.
	And neighbors are actually having to go and dig people out and get prescriptions for people because first responders can't even get there.
	But you need a governor to be there on the ground, especially if he's interested in being president.
	So, yes, I think he wants to be president.
	I think he believes he wants to be president.
	He wants to take on Ron DeSantis and, you know, he hates Trump and all of this stuff.
	That's fine.
	But if you're in the state, you go, what kind of accomplishments is this guy going to run on?
	People in Oklahoma and Iowa already think California is crazy.
	He's got to convince people that he's got something going right in the state.
	And I'm hard-pressed to tell you what that is right now.
	It's all woke.
	It's woke accomplishments, not actual accomplishments.
	And then he would have to go counter-woke, like you said, to push a black woman out of the way, which I think is beautiful.
	Did you catch Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying it's normal versus crazy?
	I loved it.
	That, to me, I'm trying to propagate that as, let's frame this next election as normal versus crazy, because they are.
	And the key to saving California, everybody wants to know why I don't run, and I really believe that incrementally we can make differences here in the state of California.
	If we don't fight to save California, we're the petri dish for all of the craziness, right?
	So it leaks out to the rest of the country.
	So I say we have to stay here and fight, but you're absolutely right, and I heard you in your first hour, and you're fabulous talking about this, because you want to bring in people who don't vote all the time.
	You want to bring in moms.
	You want to bring in Latinos and Asians.
	These are the people that are going to save the Republican Party, and they're going to do it if we keep on that.
	What is normal versus what is crazy?
	And that has to be what we have to all be, like, laser-focused on moving into the next year.
	Unfortunately, they're helping us by getting crazier by the moment.
	Jen Horne, co-host of the Morning Answer with Jen and Grant, crntalk.com, at Jennifer Horne on Twitter.
	Keep it up!
	Keep flying the flag for us out there, because God bless you, I can't do it.
	All right, well, this is Jim Hansen in the belly of the swamp, and we will be back after the break.
	We're going to take some more calls talking Trump, good reasons to vote for him, and DeSantis maybe we might take a call to find out if there's a good reason to vote for him.
	America First Radio with Jim Hansen.
	Back after the break.
	Great one.
	Thanks, Jen.
	That was awesome.
	Thank you so much.
	That was fun.
	All right.
	All right.
	Bye.
	Bye-bye.
	What did we end up with?
	Is there somebody next segment or not?
	Because we got a bunch of calls.
	Was I supposed to do two?
	Oh, my bad.
	Okay, well, I liked her.
	I wish I'd have been paying attention.
	It's right here on the thing, 2AB.
	Well, tell her that was my bad because I'm incapable of reading English, apparently.
	Oh, come on. come on.
	What did...
	First, what did Soros actually say?
	It wasn't an endorsement.
	Yeah, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah, it's close enough.
	And okay, even if George Soros says, I endorse Ron DeSantis for president, that's just stirring the pot.
	You know?
	I mean, come on.
	It's too simple.
	Well, and Soros is doing it as a poison pill.
	I endorse DeSantis because he's more scared of DeSantis than Trump.
	DeSantis, I think, is to a lot of people on the left and in the center a more dangerous candidate against a lot of Democrats than those of us, you know, and the true believers on the other side.
	I said the same thing when that came out.
	I want to know what was said before that and after that.
	All we saw was the clip.
	I couldn't even find the whole speech anywhere.
	That's interesting.
	They're hiding from us.
	So do we, do we, we don't have someone next segment so I can do calls?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hit me.
	Who's the, uh, I can't read it.
	He's dropped off.
	Couldn't stand the heat.
	All right.
	Well, um, we got LA, Wyoming, Cali, Knoxville, and LA.
	We just riled up the California crowd.
	I keep wanting to ask Jen, cause you know, with California, you know, of course, uh, Feinstein's out and that whole Senate race is going to be open.
	There's still no Republicans lining up for that race.
	That would be a great time to get a Republican in the general election, past the top two system, and there's just no Republicans running.
	Why can't we find fake Democrats to run as a Democrat, just for once, and not go to a Republican?
	Yeah, in California it could work, but nah, that's... We need to figure out how to game their system.
	I mean, I hate to treat it like completely enemy territory, And just not waste any time on it.
	But at some level, to your point earlier, if we're going to blow off Michigan and Pennsylvania, there is no point wasting 10 cents in California.
	I don't think you do, though, blow it off if you actually do this mail-in balloting, right?
	Because you didn't lose by much.
	For where?
	All over.
	I think that there's people that wouldn't vote, but if you sent them a mail-in ballot and you targeted them, they're going to vote.
	On our side.
	You know what I mean?
	Oh, I agree.
	Like, it was close in every state.
	And you're talking about less than 1%.
	Right, and I guarantee... That's why restaurants deliver!
	Especially these days, you know, nobody does anything.
	You know, we're all hiding from the dangers of the world.
	All right, well, we'll have to wait and see.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First.
	with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Yes, I am Jim Hansen.
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	All right, back to the ongoing idea about who has the best chance of beating a Democrat, or maybe does anyone.
	And I think we can get some insight on that.
	From the great state of Wyoming, I want to talk to Tom.
	What you got for me?
	Yes, thank you.
	I've been a Republican since I read an interview of Ronald Reagan in Guns and Ammo, October 1967.
	Wow.
	So I've been around a while, but we should have had a wake-up call in 2020, and we didn't.
	And 2022, the same result.
	And I'm afraid that it might be the same in 2024, unless the Republicans beat the Democrats at ballot harvesting.
	Does anyone think that the Dems only are going to ballot harvest where it's legal?
	Yeah, how can we beat them unless we beat them at their own game?
	Yeah, I think that's vital.
	And I think that's one of the things that concerned me when we had the RNC election for chair, was reelecting Ronna McDaniel, who did nothing on that issue before, and missing out on a chance to have Harmeet Dhillon lead that was a problem.
	I also have heard that there is a bit of a partnership going on where Harmeet's ideas are now being heard and tried and part of the RNC thing moving forward.
	Because as you said, Tom, I think you're exactly right.
	If we don't play by their rules, which unfortunately are in place in too many states, We will lose again.
	We did.
	We got taken to the cleaners because they're bringing in sacks full of ballots from any place they can find them.
	And I'm not saying we should cheat.
	I'm saying we should take the rules as they are.
	And any place it's legal to ballot harvest, do it.
	Any place it's legal to vote early, get people to vote early.
	Any place you can go and register people and help them in any way beyond just taking them to the polls on election day.
	Whatever legal means there are available, we have to use.
	And that's going to mean more of us are going to have to get involved.
	All right?
	I don't want to do it, but I think I might be a poll watcher at my precinct here in Virginia.
	You know, I mean, it's now a reddish, more red than blue state, but I think they're going to try and take it back.
	And every time I've gone to vote, I've had nothing but Democrats and leftists and woke losers as the workers at the poll station.
	So I may go there and at least fold my arms and look gruff and grim and let them know that they're not doing this for free.
	So we'll see how that goes.
	I want to jump now, and let's go back.
	We were talking with Jen Horn in California.
	Let's talk to some of her people.
	What about Debbie in L.A.?
	Hello?
	Hey, Debbie, what you got?
	Oh, gosh.
	Hi.
	Well, first of all, or second of all, I'm second generation from Mexico.
	I was born and raised here in Southern California, kind of a beach girl.
	We've got to let Trump.
	We've got to rally together.
	And I don't want to cry, but this is serious.
	If you guys out there don't know how stinking serious this is, don't give any excuses to not get out and vote.
	So, I could go down the list of all the amazing things Trump has done, and I do this out here, out there, outside, on my sidewalk, at the store.
	I do this because it's serious.
	Sorry, I didn't mean to get emotional, but... It matters.
	I think get emotional.
	The country depends on this, right?
	And thank you, and I love your show.
	So on, as I was telling your call screener, I need to calm down.
	Election day last fall, I was at my table doing paperwork, radio was on, of course it's 8.70am, and the news in the middle says, in the middle of the shows, polls are closed, Gavin Newsom remains Governor of California.
	But then Los Angeles, where I am in the county of Los Angeles, borderline Orange County, they say, Karen Bass and Rick Crusoe, looks like Rick could be winning, you know, and we're like, getting our hopes up.
	But then nine days later, or seven to nine days later, Karen Bass wins.
	But that night, so the sheriffs are bringing in ballots to Los Angeles, they're flying them in, they're taking them in by, or cop cars, I don't know, whatever.
	Law enforcement.
	Ballots to Los Angeles for the Caruso mayor race, right?
	Bass Caruso.
	And how did Governor Newsom, Governor, whatever, Governor, Governor, how did he just win?
	How did he just win at 8 o'clock?
	Polls are closed and he won, but 7 to 9, I don't know.
	I think you're highlighting something that we all have to be cognizant of, and that the Democrats control the machines in far too many places that are important for voting.
	And like I just said prior to this call, I am going to go and be a poll watcher next time around because I don't trust them.
	And I think all of us are going to have to do that.
	So wherever you are, you know, whatever you decide to do, there was a good reason to be emotional, Deb, because this matters.
	We could lose this country to them if we don't figure out how to beat them in elections.
	So, you know, we don't want to ever get to the next step.
	We have the greatest constitutional republic.
	We have a lot of tools at our disposal, but they require all of us to get up, get involved, and make sure that the cheating Democrats and The people who have gamed the rules do not get a free ride without us using every legal means at our disposal to fight back and win.
	So that's my advice.
	It may not be fun.
	I can't think of anything I want to do less than stand there and watch people vote.
	But I'm gonna do it.
	And I encourage you to do whatever you can.
	This is Jim Hansen, sitting in for Dr. Sebastian Gorka doing America First Radio.
	We'll have more of that after the break.
	This is the C segment now.
	2C, so... Do we have any... What do we got left?
	Is it all me?
	It can't all be me.
	No, we have 440.
	440 is Darren.
	Yeah, he can do the last two segments of the hour.
	Okay, alright, so we'll close out there.
	And the Chip Roy thing is still up in the air.
	Even though they offered it.
	Alright, because that's just more fun that way.
	Not sure I could do an imitation of him.
	I like him!
	But I'm not sure he doesn't have that distinctive kind of voice.
	Yeah, he's tougher.
	Yeah.
	Do you want me to try somebody else for the five o'clock hour?
	Or we just stick with phone calls.
	I'm having fun.
	And I got a couple things I haven't beefed on yet.
	Three minutes.
	As a matter of fact, let me hit one of my hobby horses.
	That's another thing, too, that Seb and Ben and others have mentioned.
	What about Ken Griffin and Paul Singer and other Never Trump billionaires who are openly funding DeSantis?
	Because they're Never Trump.
	That's not a lick on DeSantis.
	Here's the question.
	Can DeSantis be bought?
	Well, I don't know.
	That's the thing.
	That was one thing with Trump.
	Obviously, Trump couldn't be bought because he was filthy rich already, like he didn't need to be bought.
	Yeah.
	And I mean, DeSantis, it's not like, OK, am I if I buy my way into the White House and the only thing I've got going for me is being Trump without the baggage.
	You know, that's that's his brand.
	I'm Trump without the baggage.
	OK, then if you take money from those guys and then the second you start never trumping at all, You know, and being soft, you lose the one brand you had.
	And you're what?
	You know, if he if he can't convince America first that he's legit, he's dead.
	You know, and then you have the opportunity, you know, the appeal there is that he can bring in the never Trump who will hold their nose and vote for someone other than Trump.
	Rather than vote Democrat or sit it out.
	I don't think he can be bought that way.
	It just doesn't strike me that way.
	You never know.
	We'll find out.
	90 seconds.
	I wonder what the first sign would be.
	I would bet you money that stupid commercial you pointed out.
	Ed Rawlins.
	That's some of that garbage money.
	Again, it's cheaply produced.
	So bad.
	So bad.
	And that's the other thing.
	If you're going to do something like that, don't suck.
	That seems to be the motto of all Republicans.
	They've got an 800 phone number on there to call.
	What are you calling for?
	Isn't it to draft, Ron?
	So what you do is you call there and they ask you for a donation for the SuperPAC, I would bet.
	Yeah, but usually it's done by a website.
	This looks weird with the phone numbers.
	And they have it on twice on the screen at the same time.
	It's in the top right and the middle.
	Well, if it's an 800 number, they're going for boomers.
	You know, boomers will dial the phone.
	If you're gonna do, like, deliberately bad campaign ads, you gotta be Ed Durr, the trucker in New Jersey.
	Right, right.
	Filmed his campaign on an iPhone and stole one.
	Like, go all in.
	Go full fake green screen.
	Otherwise, yeah, not if you're for The Governor of Florida.
	I love that, man.
	That's one of my favorite stories of all time.
	That was beautiful.
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	All right.
	Hey, folks, we have been talking for most of the show, and I think I'm going to keep rolling with it because it's I think it's good for us.
	I think it's good to exercise our ideas about what are we of the America first world looking for in governance?
	And we talked a little bit during the break about Is DeSantis endorsed by George Soros?
	Is DeSantis poisoned because, you know, Ken Griffin and Paul Singer and, you know, billionaires like that are donating money to him?
	And I think that remains to be seen.
	First of all, he's not.
	He's definitely not a Soros guy.
	That's a joke.
	But he's OK.
	He's taking money from Never Trump billionaires.
	So what?
	You need money to win in politics.
	The question is, can they buy him out of America First land?
	And I don't think they can for one reason.
	His brand is, I'm Trump without Trump's baggage, and I'm a competent executive who executes America First policies.
	Now, the second, he starts doing the things that those guys want, which are soft and lame and accommodationist and, you know, neocon globalist loserish.
	His brand's gone.
	Who is he?
	He's nobody.
	And he cannot win unless he can convince us, the collective us of America First World, that he is genuine.
	So I don't think DeSantis can be bought that way.
	But let's keep going with this.
	I want to find out what's going on in Detroit Rock City.
	Mike, what you got for me?
	You're exactly right.
	Oh yeah, I think you're exactly right because, you know, essentially, you know, this isn't the World War II generation Democratic Party that raised me.
	You know, these people, President Trump, to his great credit, exposed them as being politically corrupt, criminally corrupt.
	personally corrupt, you know, please don't mutilate our children, you know, seditious and treasonous.
	And that's what they've become.
	Now, we essentially had a one-party system under the Republican Party, under President Trump, that did a lot of good, not only without the cooperation of the Democratic Party, but despite their obstruction at every turn, you know.
	And until they reformed themselves, this is a domestic enemy.
	And President Trump does not hesitate to take that enemy on.
	You cannot reach across the aisle to these people.
	No, and I think that's a great point.
	And Mitch McConnell, to his discredit as usual, went ahead yesterday and said he thinks what, you know, releasing the January 6th footage of Tucker Carlson and him showing America what they've not been allowed to see, what they've seen is the propaganda version of January 6th.
	perpetrated by the regime media.
	And Mitch goes ahead as a, you know, leader of the Uniparty here in D.C.
	and says, no, that's wrong.
	It shouldn't be like that.
	You know, the American people should not get to see the things that detract from the narrative that the Uniparty and the essentially left has done.
	So I think it's a fair point to say one of the things Trump brings to the table is he will kick them in the neck.
	He will not put up with that, and he will treat the Democrats and the RINOs.
	First, the Democrats are enemies of this country.
	The RINOs are close, not as bad.
	But in the end, if they're supporting what the enemies of this country are doing, then fellow travelers are useful idiots.
	They're no good for the rest of us, and we need to take them out.
	And I think there's no question that Donald Trump has shown in the past, and I believe wholeheartedly, He would just be on fire against the deep state, the Democrats, and the rhino, weak, neocon globalist right.
	So I think those are things in his favor.
	Now, I don't think in any way that you can say Ron DeSantis would be Uh, not against them.
	I think you could say he might be a little more measured, but look what he's done in Florida.
	He took on Disney in his state.
	He took on the mouse in his own house.
	And I'm telling you, that took guts.
	He fired an attorney who said, I'm not going to, you know, I'm going to apply a woke filter to the law and I'm not going to enforce laws that I don't agree with.
	DeSantis was like fired him.
	And those are things that I think either one of those guys is going to bring to the table.
	So I want to see more of that.
	I want to see that as a promise as part of the platform is that we are not here to make peace.
	There is no common ground.
	There is no one in the Democrat Party Except maybe Joe Manchin, who we can work with.
	And I think we need to treat them as political enemies, as enemies of the state, as people trying to fundamentally transform this country into some kind of woke socialist crap hole.
	And we will not allow that.
	ever ends up as our candidate and I hope that person brings the fight to them and and basically takes their mandate as one to stop that from happening and and get the citizens back in charge of this we the people.
	I'm Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. Gorka.
	We will be back after the break with Darren Beatty from Revolver News.
	And that's going to be lively.
	They've picked up.
	Now they think they've changed my mind?
	No, I'm in agreement with you.
	I'm a pro-Trumper and I think you would be better than DeSantis like you do.
	Look, they're giving me hope.
	All right.
	I don't want to fear that Trump can't win, but I do.
	I'm of the persuasion I still think Republicans are at a disadvantage in 2024, even Trump.
	I think it's still more likely that the Dems win.
	Then Republicans win.
	Trump just has the best chance, in my opinion.
	I think high-end, mail-in ballot, you do it right, it gives you a 7-8% chance better.
	And you only need one.
	And you only need 1%, you know what I mean?
	High-end would be if you did it right, which we know the RNC won't.
	Exactly, yeah.
	But there's a lot of wiggle room there.
	They just can't, and the RNC loves, that's what I said about spreading the resources, they can't help but put money in states like Colorado and New Mexico that we're not gonna win, and they're not even worth it.
	Like, New Hampshire, I'm sorry, we should ditch New Hampshire, that state's not worth it either.
	I think we should steal a few elections and then they'll get rid of mail-in ballots and the Democrats will.
	See, that's the game though, right?
	Show that they know because they've been using it successfully.
	No, if you did it well legally, they would be calling to get rid of it.
	Exactly.
	And then we could all be happy.
	Strategy for mail-in ballots.
	No one, for us.
	It should be the RNC.
	That's the point.
	Yeah, it should be the RNC.
	You, the voter, to request an absentee ballot on their own, go get it, send it in.
	Well, I had a debate with someone who, maybe it was at CPAC, I don't remember.
	He's up on Skype.
	Oh, he's up.
	If you want to talk to him, mic's on.
	Hey Darren, it's Jim.
	How you doing, man?
	Hi Jim, how are you?
	I am well.
	All right.
	I was, I'm always like anxious to see what the hair is going to be.
	And it's good.
	It's good.
	It's quality.
	You know what I mean?
	I mean, cause I can't do that.
	I'm jealous because I would, if I could do that, I would make a statement every day with my hair.
	And the only statement I can make is where's Jim's hair.
	You know, it's sad.
	Um, dude, I wanted to jump in whatever flavor of government abuse of power to attack a political opponents you're interested in.
	I, I like the, uh, the CISA at DHS, you know what I mean?
	That, that attempt they had to jump into that.
	So if, if we start there, we can freelance out to wherever you want to go from there, but there's just so many targets of opportunity right now, cause it's all coming out.
	Yep.
	Sounds great.
	Cool.
	All right.
	Well, I'll open it up with that one.
	And I think it's fun.
	One of the things my company is doing is we're, we ingest, we use AI to connect the dots kind of stuff and figure out who's doing what.
	There is so much stuff coming out.
	That our network map of all of the government conspiracy stuff is getting too big to handle, you know?
	And I like that, because now we're hauling in all of the activist groups and the funders and all the rest of the stuff, and it's ugly and bad.
	One minute.
	Interesting.
	Yeah, well, I wish there wasn't that much bad information, but I'd rather we know about it and have proof than whereas before we knew it was happening and couldn't prove it.
	You know, and they just claim, oh, well, that's just more, you know, Republican conspiracy.
	Well, no, it's actually not, you know?
	All right.
	30 seconds. 15 seconds, mics off. 15 seconds, 15 seconds.
	Mic's off.
	Welcome back to America First.
	with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Right on, folks.
	Happy to be back, sitting in Dr. G's chair, doing some America First.
	And we've got one of our team's killers with us this segment, Darren Beatty from Revolver News, who is becoming one of the better sources we've ever had for solid investigative journalism.
	Now, Darren, one of the things that I'm finding both Good and horrifying is the amount of information coming out about just how much abusive power the deep state, and especially now the Biden administration, has been using against their political opponents.
	And one of the ones that just came out, the DHS's cyber agency, CISA, Cyber Security and Infrastructure, Division was actually gave themselves a new mission of looking for censorship opportunities against domestic citizens and against people who are saying things that they found dangerous until they got caught.
	Is this I mean, are we going to find this in pretty much every agency that has any kind of investigative authority that they all were doing this at some level?
	I would imagine probably so, but with that said, there is something quite special about the Department of Homeland Security.
	The Department of Homeland Security is the tip of the spear when it comes to this deeply significant and dangerous trend in our politics, the weaponization of the national security state against the American people.
	Even under Trump, The DHS proclaimed that the number one threat to American national security is quote unquote, white supremacy.
	It's interesting in a historical context because the DHS was set up, it's a relatively young agency from the standpoint of our national security bureaucracies.
	It was set up in the aftermath of 9-11 in order to help execute the war on terror.
	Now, that grift, for better or worse, dried up.
	They're in need of a new mission, a new imprimatur.
	And it's very clear that the new mission for the DHS is, we're the new Al-Qaeda.
	Trump supporters are the new Al-Qaeda.
	If you object to open borders policies, you're the new Al-Qaeda.
	If you have any questions about the 2020 election, well, you're associated with that deadly insurrection January 6th, about which there are tremendous amount of lies.
	And that's why the media freaks out when anyone like Tucker or myself dares to point them out.
	The DHS is at the tip of the spear.
	And in fact, it's important to point out, as long as I mentioned January 6th, the chairman of the January 6th committee, Benny Thompson, is the DHS's stooge in Congress.
	He's a seven-time chair of the Homeland Security Committee, which is pretty remarkable.
	Why, of all the people, of all the hacks, of all the Democrat hacks who could have been chosen to lead the January 6th committee, why is it the DHS's main guy in Congress?
	That's an interesting thing to consider.
	And lastly, we just learned, it's been reported, I've known this for a while, a lot of people have known this for a while, but the DHS actually has an internal intelligence agency, the Office of Intelligence and Analysis.
	This, to my knowledge, is the only, properly speaking, intelligence group with the authority to conduct business domestically in the country.
	CIA, DIA, and so forth, they're imprimatur, which of course they overstep at times, they're imprimatur.
	is confined to overseas intelligence.
	They're not allowed to investigate American citizens domestically.
	The DHS is the only one that does it.
	The FBI, for that matter.
	Of course, they engage in intelligence, but they're a law enforcement agency, and they're at least, technically speaking, constrained By the procedural safeguards attendant to the law enforcement function.
	The DHS is the only institution where just free for all intelligence collecting, no observable restraints.
	And it just happens to be that the DHS is at the tip of the spear of the domestic war on terror, the war on patriots, and that the DHS's stooge was of all people appointed in Congress to lead the January 6th committee.
	It's all connected and it all runs through the DHS.
	You brought up this intelligence capability.
	They actually were running something they called the Overt Human Intelligence Collection Program inside of DHS.
	And they had internally their own employees asked the IG whether or not they were breaking the law in what they were being told to do in targeting USA.
	citizens, because even though they do have the right to run an intelligence collection operation, they don't have the right to generate these spurious investigations against people for things, you know, along the lines of the school boards and, you know, people speaking out about abortion and all the issues that they want to or COVID or anything else, which is things they were doing.
	So there was actually a leak recently of internal communications inside DHS where their own employees thought they were breaking the law and wanted the DHS to buy them insurance to protect them.
	That's really fascinating.
	And you know, I'm not a lawyer, I would love to consult with various legal professionals to get a sense of where exactly those parameters are.
	And again, like I said, there's The law enforcement agencies like the FBI, and of course they're completely corrupt and I don't think for a second that they follow the rules all the time, but at least there are rules in place that put some constraints on the FBI and keep them in line with a law enforcement function.
	Intelligence is broad.
	You can collect intelligence on someone even if they didn't commit a crime, even if they're not suspected of committing a crime.
	I'd really like to know more about what the legal constraints are on this and what safeguards are in place from the DHS, because we're seeing it in a number of different domains.
	And of all places, remember, the DHS was the bureaucracy that housed the now infamous and defunct Disinformation.
	The mini Ministry of Truth and censor information online.
	The DHS really is a tip of the spear in all of these things.
	Well, we got to take a break, but after the break, let's talk a little bit then about what we want House Oversight, because we only got a little bit we can do right now.
	But I want to dig into the things we can do and what our team should be looking at, because we got to dismantle this.
	And when we do get executive power again, we got to rip it out by the roots.
	We'll be back with more from Darren Beatty, founder of Revolver News.
	I'm Jim Hansen, and we're doing America First Radio.
	Oh, dude, of course you of course you are.
	That seems to be the thing, man.
	Every time I wonder where somebody is, I just assume they're in Miami, and then if they're not, they can let me know.
	It's a nice place now.
	There's a reason everyone's coming down here.
	I get it.
	I get it.
	You know, I mean, you get all the bonuses of nice weather and all that, and you get the advantage of having now a cultural mecca.
	You know what I mean?
	The more of our people get there, the more it turns into a place that's a friendly environment.
	And that's vital.
	Oh, that's so true.
	Yeah.
	There's a real community, real network effects, I guess they would say.
	Yeah.
	Where are you based?
	Oh, I'm in Swamp.
	I live a mile from the Pentagon.
	I used to say, you know, I have an outpost in enemy territory until Yunkin won.
	But now I technically live in a red state, even though my neighborhood, oh my God, dude, my neighbors have me pegged because I live in, you know, everybody's a Democrat.
	They work for the government or they're leftist.
	And, you know, I've got the sign, I got a sign in my front yard that says, tolerate political diversity.
	And they walk by and they see it.
	It's green and white.
	It's a political sign size thing.
	It's green and white so it looks all soft and friendly and they see tolerate and they see diversity and then they read it and I watch them.
	Looking out my window, I watch them and then they frown when they figure it out.
	They're like, wait a minute, he's dogging us.
	I'm like, yes I am.
	But, hey, I mean, I look at it this way, you know, we've got to we got to maintain power here.
	We can.
	I hate the swamp, but it does.
	It's not going to change.
	You know, we're not going to change the government's not leaving.
	And so if nothing else, you know, we can at least rally the troops around here.
	And when people come to town, we have a safe space for for our team in the in the Valley of the Beast.
	And there's it's funny, there's more people than you'd think.
	You know, because I walk down the street, you know, and people, if they recognize me or not, I've had people in my neighborhood walk up and say, hey, I saw you on Fox.
	And they almost in hushed tones, you know, they're like, I saw you on Fox.
	You're one of our guys.
	I'm like, yeah, we could say that out loud.
	You know, remember, the other side doesn't have guns.
	It's not like they're going to attack us.
	You know, we have the advantage.
	30 seconds.
	All right.
	Cool.
	Well, I'm going to jump in with what should we be doing with House Oversight or anybody else we can to at least lay the groundwork for taking this out.
	20 seconds.
	And mic's off. . .
	. .
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, we are back and we're talking with Darren Beatty, founder of Revolver News.
	Now, we have identified in this last segment and a million other times, and you've done great work uncovering all of the badness that our government, the deep state, the left has used to politicize and weaponize the state security apparatus against us.
	The real question then becomes, can we do anything now?
	Is house oversight a tool that can manage something?
	Can we defund anything?
	What can we do between now and the next time we have executive power?
	You know, that's a great question.
	And it's important to be realistic in our answers here.
	There just isn't a tremendous amount of leverage.
	I think the majority of good that we can do is simply
	Tell the story, uncover what's going on, reveal the dark truth for what it is, perhaps exercise some degree of subpoena power, set things up such that the next time that we're in control of the executive branch, which is hopefully in the aftermath of 2024, we can go about aggressively and very specifically targeting these institutions and
	basically neutralizing them.
	And that's a valuable thing.
	You know, you can't, everybody likes to talk, oh, we'll just shut down this and we'll shut down that.
	You can do some of that, but you also have to have a rationale that tells the American people, we're not just shutting down the FBI because they know the FBI does some good things.
	They also do a lot of really bad things right now.
	So I think that makes sense to use this time to make the case for when we want to drop the hammer on them in the next administration.
	Exactly.
	And I think for various things can be defunded.
	A lot of these NGOs that receive government money effectively to engage in this disinformation scam, these can be defunded.
	And in some cases, repurposing could even be more powerful than defunding.
	Instead of getting rid of an organization or an office, Why not populate it with our people who use it for our agenda and our ends?
	So I think there's no monolithic answer to all of these things.
	The real approach has to come from a targeted, specific, and very granular bureaucratic knowledge of how these different institutions function, who the players are, and so forth in order to take maximum advantage.
	That makes perfect sense.
	And I think I actually have a feeling that they are up to that.
	I know that House Oversight is busy and they're doing some smart things.
	So I think that may be happening.
	Let's hope so.
	Darren Beatty, founder of Revolver News, a great place to find out all the information you need to know about what's going on.
	Thanks for joining us.
	Thank you so much.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We will be back after the break and a little bit of news to take some more calls and talk about who is the best person to run this country in 2025.
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	Welcome a special guest host, Jim Hansen.
	Oh, good to hear more Skinner Tuesday's gone.
	I guess it is, actually.
	Hey, we have been talking a lot and listening to the voices of America first, and I got to be honest.
	All right.
	I have been heartened to the prospects of Donald Trump after hearing all of your ideas for this, and I want to keep going.
	So I want to go to a state that had a kind of messy election and hear what Sandra in Glendale, Arizona has to say.
	Hi, Mr. Hanson.
	Thank you for taking my call, sir.
	Yeah, what you got?
	All right, sir.
	Here's the problem I have with DeSantis.
	If he's taking money, which you said every politician needs, you know, sponsors, so to speak.
	The problem with that is, it depends who he's taking the money from.
	His hands will be tied.
	Because everybody who sponsors you, in the end, wants something.
	It's not like making a $20 contribution.
	You're making millions of dollars.
	Obviously, you want something to happen.
	Now, that's the distrust I have.
	I love him.
	He's a wonderful governor.
	But I think, at the moment, I do believe he will not be running.
	I think he is keeping people on their toes.
	I do believe He is also, I think, silently kind of, you know, keeping Donald Trump on his toes.
	But I love Trump.
	I'm originally from Chicago.
	We moved to Arizona to get away from, unfortunately, the land of Lincoln, which is ironic because it's a Republican state, supposedly with the name It's the land of Lincoln, and it's overrun by corruption and Democrats.
	Oh, no doubt.
	Chicago, most of all, Chicago was honestly, I lived there for a while, I lived in Palatine, and you talk about a corrupt place, it would be hard to beat Chicago as far as a corrupt machine state.
	Now let me talk, I want to answer to your thoughts about DeSantis, because I think that's fair.
	Billionaires don't give you money just because they want you to do what you want.
	They want something from you, like you said.
	And the question is, can they get something from DeSantis that we don't want him to give them?
	And I think that remains to be seen.
	You know, he has not been on that stage yet.
	He has not been in the position where he had, you know, Ken Griffin and Paul Singer and these other people who love to fund this stuff, giving him money.
	And I think the one thing they want more than anything, and they have for a long time, is to beat Trump.
	So I don't know.
	Now, they are soft.
	They are, you know, definitely well to the left of all of us here.
	I think that's fair to say.
	So they also are going to have some more globalist stuff, you know, some ideas that the rest of us don't agree with.
	And I would be interested to see.
	And it is a risk if DeSantis is the candidate for him to be in their debt.
	At some level.
	And so I think that remains something.
	As a previous caller said, you can't buy Trump because, first of all, he doesn't need the money and he doesn't care.
	He's got plenty of money in the bank.
	And even if you gave him money, I'm pretty sure he would smile, punch you in the face and tell you he's going to do what he thinks is best anyhow.
	So I think that's another place where there's a concern.
	But I also understand from DeSantis' point, he's got to have the ability, if he wants to be the nominee, to run a campaign and go up against Donald Trump in a meaningful way.
	So why don't we jump now?
	I want to hear from Knoxville and Randy, because my parents used to live in Knoxville.
	They just moved down to St.
	Petersburg.
	Now they're in Florida, too.
	But what you got for me, Randy?
	Hey, Jim.
	Hey, if I could preface the Trump thing, I appreciate your views on the Russian-Ukrainian war.
	Man, just like President Trump said, I'd have them at the peace table.
	Gotta stop the killing, go to the peace, and get this thing over with.
	Like you said, Putin isn't gonna put a L in the thing.
	I want somebody to count all the Ukrainian superyachts that are gonna come out of the Black Sea and head to the Riviera after this is over with.
	Oh, you know, I wish you were wrong.
	Ukraine, I was talking about how corrupt Chicago is.
	Ukraine is as corrupt as Russia or Chicago or any other place that's famous for it.
	And I think that's a fair point.
	We have not had an audit.
	The Defense Department just came out and had the audacity to say, we looked at the money we sent to Ukraine and we didn't see, literally, that was a quote, we didn't see any evidence of corruption.
	And I can explain how that happened, because the only way they couldn't see evidence of corruption is if they had their hands over their eyes.
	There was definitely corruption.
	And I think that's one of the problems, is we're sending so much money over there that now it's become an industry unto itself.
	And aside from the danger of World War III, we are simply, as you mentioned, buying oligarchs' yachts, and that ain't a good thing.
	And that's no lick on the Ukrainian people.
	God bless them.
	They're fighting.
	And Putin's a scumbag.
	But we don't need to go to war over this.
	And I think that's something that we can avoid.
	Okay, I want to jump now back to the Golden State, to California, and talk to Brent in L.A.
	Wonderful talking to you again, Jim.
	All right.
	What you got?
	What you want to talk about?
	Yeah, well, I've been dreaming that DeSantis would become our president in 28, right after righteous and courageous President Trump rededicated our desecrated White House in 24.
	But now I'm starting to feel betrayed by DeSantis, who I'm beginning to suspect of self-deceiving deep state opportunism.
	And I see President Trump being touched and chosen by God to rescue Western civilization from the darkness of the deep state and their global demons, and every day President Trump just reconfirms my trust in him.
	Well, I think that Trump obviously is my choice as the guy most likely to rip the deep state out by the roots more than anybody else.
	So if I could today put him in the White House and set him on that mission, I would do it.
	And if in the end, I'm convinced that he's got a chance to win.
	I will be doing everything.
	And regardless of whether I think he's got a chance to win, if he's the nominee, he's going to have every ounce of my effort and energy backing him for that.
	I don't know that DeSantis is any less opposed to those kind of things.
	I think he shares our ideology to such a level that the only question is, how much will he burn down in what would be for him a first term?
	And I think, you know, the desire to be reelected often can bring people to the point where they are a little softer with all the people whispering in their ear saying, you know, gosh, maybe you shouldn't do all that.
	And that happened to President Trump.
	It happened to him in his first term.
	You know, I think if he could go back, he would be much more savage than he was.
	So I think it remains to be seen.
	But I think it's fair to say of the two, Trump would be more savagely deep state devastating.
	Let's jump to David in Tennessee.
	Hey, thanks for taking my call.
	Yeah, what you got?
	Yeah, I was just curious.
	Hey, now that we've seen that Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram, and Sean Hannity are all frauds, Are you kind of the same way or do you actually believe in the BS you're shoveling out?
	Oh, dude, no, I'm a total fraud.
	I am actually a leftist Democrat.
	You know, honestly, I believe that everything in America should be destroyed or Maybe I am me.
	Maybe since I was 18 years old and joined the United States military and served in more than a dozen countries overseas and have devoted my entire life since then to making this country a better place that my actions speak louder than words.
	But thanks for that, buddy.
	That was a pathetic little cheap shot.
	Let's talk to Wesley in Georgia.
	Yes, sir.
	I think that it needs to be Donald Trump at the top of the Republican ticket, because if we were to talk to Germans in World War II, they would not want Patton at the head of the column headed to Berlin.
	They'd pick somebody else.
	So you talk to Democrats and rhinos, they don't want Trump because he's going to get the job done. - And you know what?
	I think that's a great analogy because I think Trump as a wartime president, and I wrote a book, Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot, because I believe we are in a war for the heart and soul of this country.
	So I think if you want to look at the position of commander in chief and chief executive at this point, I think those have always been co-equal roles for the president.
	But I think in this case, there is more of a commander in chief role domestically than there ever has been in my lifetime.
	And I think because of that, I think it's fair to say that you want somebody like Trump.
	But to the point that today's conversation with all the callers has been, my concern is partly because Trump is that guy, but also partly because Trump is Trump.
	Everyone already has an opinion on Donald Trump.
	He's not going to change any minds.
	During the campaign, during the primary campaign, and again during a general, no one is going to say, you know what, I've never heard Trump say that before, I used to believe he was a bad guy, now I believe he's a good guy, or the other way around.
	So I'm concerned that the net number of people who we can get to vote for him is not enough to beat the Democrats and their machine.
	I am open though, and it has been heartening to hear everyone who has called in today talking about the reasons why I could be wrong about that.
	And I would love to be wrong about that.
	I truly would.
	I would love to see Trump inaugurated and fires across the Potomac.
	This is Jim Hanson.
	We're doing America First Radio and we'll be back after the break.
	break.
	I'm going to talk a little bit about the Nord Stream bombing and who did that.
	I also got to do my little Daily Beast thing.
	That was just too funny.
	Oh yeah, I have the, uh, I have the... That was so good.
	Because it's fun.
	You always want to say, screw you.
	He called me.
	I was actually in here and I taped a segment with Larry O'Connor.
	Oh yeah?
	And as I'm walking out the door, the phone rings and it was little Zach Patrizio from Daily Beast.
	I'm like, now is that the guy that Seb calls Zachy-poo?
	Zachy-poo, yeah.
	See, it's funny.
	I asked him.
	I'm like, so you're the dude Seb calls Zachy-poo, right?
	And he's like, oh, And I said, well, you know, and he went through his thing and I'm like, dude, you're the Daily Beast.
	I hate you.
	I mean, I did, you know, I mean, I just, I didn't even pull a punch.
	I'm like, I am highly unlikely to give you a comment, but I asked him, what do you, you know, what are the other guys saying about me?
	Are they saying anything that's going to piss me off and that I might want to respond to?
	And he's like, maybe, you know, and I'm like, read it to me or shut up.
	And he's like, well, I can kind of characterize it for you and this and that.
	And then I gave him a little bit of context because he didn't actually understand what happened.
	And I said, you can't use any of that.
	And then when I get home, I'll text you and give you whether or not I'm going to say anything.
	And so I did.
	And I texted him that quote.
	And I'm like, there's no way they'll use that.
	You know, I mean, Hansen refused to comment.
	No.
	Hansen told you to pound sand, and you put it out there for him.
	That's great.
	Patrizio's one of those guys, I mean, I don't know if it's the voice, but something about him, I can't bring myself to hate him.
	He's just such a goof.
	I love just clowning on him.
	As opposed to someone like Jared Holt, who I absolutely hate.
	Jared Holt's a disgusting scumbag.
	There's plenty of them.
	I think I would probably agree with you.
	He's a pathetic little twit.
	You know, he's a twerp.
	I just sent you a text real quick.
	Okay.
	And he used to be a college Republican as well, Patrizio.
	Really?
	I believe so, yeah.
	Alright.
	Oh, I can actually read where it says that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, good.
	Let him stew.
	The other option is I could take the call and knee him in the nads, but... Knee him in the nads.
	I like that.
	That's so good.
	I'd kick him in the yawbles if he had any yawbles.
	All right.
	So let me... where's my... I guess I better get my... Oh yeah, do you want to do another read here?
	I should do another read.
	So I need to do food.
	Let me do Israel and I'll do food last since they already got a lot and I don't want to cheat the Israel guys.
	All righty then.
	and then I need my Nord Stream story.
	Well, Daily Wire sold a half a million candy bars since they went, was that new chocolate line Oh my god.
	Look, credit where credit's due.
	I know.
	It's expensive, too.
	Yeah.
	Good.
	Isn't it all kind of a gimmick, though?
	Between that and showing me... Who cares if I can sell a half a million candy bars in a week?
	Well, making money, sure, but I'm talking about as a political thing.
	Yeah!
	And good!
	I mean, do that every single time.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hansen.
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	OK, we have been jumping around and talking a lot about Trump and DeSantis and all the rest of that.
	I want to get back to World War Three, because I don't want one.
	And I think it's vitally important that we do not have a World War Three.
	And I think we have been pushing headlong and funding Zelensky and the rest of his people in what is a noble endeavor for them.
	They were invaded.
	Ukraine was invaded.
	Russia invaded Ukraine.
	And they have every right to fight back.
	Now, at some level, we as freedom-loving people do not want tyrants around the world feeling like they can just invade their neighbors, take over their country, and do what they want.
	So I can understand the natural urge to say, Putin's bad.
	Russia is bad.
	Unprovoked invasion.
	We should do something about that.
	And we have far too much in my mind because Putin lost that war when he went into Ukraine on too many axes of advance and basically got his butt kicked in his attempt to take control of the country and ended up having to basically hide over on their border in the one part of the country he actually wanted to take.
	I think he might have wanted to conquer.
	And, you know, push Ukraine around, maybe put a puppet government in and get them to to make a deal with him.
	But in the end, he wanted the Russian speaking provinces on his border called the Donbass and recognition for Crimea, which is where he is right now.
	And I think at some level, that's where we're going to make a peace on.
	And I think that time for that is now.
	But some news came out recently where there was a claim, Seymour Hersh claimed, that the United States conducted the Nord Stream bombing, Russia's pipeline to Europe, back when that occurred.
	It was idiotic.
	First of all, Seymour Hersh is a scumbag, lying propagandist commie.
	So anything he says is just not worth listening to.
	But it never made an ounce of sense for the United States to have been the ones who actually conducted that sabotage.
	We gained nothing by it.
	All it would do if we were the ones doing that is make it more likely that we escalate because Putin then has been attacked by the other superpower.
	And I don't think Russia is not a superpower, by the superpower.
	Not even sure China is a superpower anymore.
	So there was never really any legitimate reason to believe that the United States bombed the Nord Stream pipeline.
	But I'm going to tell you a really smart guy I know on the day that happened said the most likely suspect to have bombed that is Ukraine.
	Now, of course, that was me, as usual.
	I get these things right regularly.
	The reason it made sense for Ukraine is they needed the rest of the world to be nervous.
	They needed everyone there to not lose their focus because they knew this was going to be a longer war.
	So the idea that there was a major sabotage in this massive environmental emergency and this attack on the energy needs of Europe Made sure that no one lost focus on the war between Russia and Ukraine.
	Alright, I said that then.
	I thought it was correct.
	Just in the past couple days, there is now reporting in all the major propaganda outlets again, saying that U.S.
	intelligence now believes that it was a Ukrainian affiliated group that did the bombing.
	And the argument I usually get, and people say this, and there's a point to it, but it's wrong, that Ukraine doesn't have the capability to do that.
	Correct.
	They don't have the organic capability to do that.
	Their Navy does not have that capability.
	But if you've got the money that we've been shoving over there, you can buy commercial divers, commercial salvage operations, and people with the expertise to go ahead and either dive down there and place the explosives or to lower them On a cable or something, there's a bunch of ways you could go about it.
	But if you've got cash, you can make that happen if you're crazy enough to do it.
	And Zelensky and his crew and the people who are reporting this are saying, oh, there's no evidence they're connected to Zelensky.
	Yeah, I'm not buying that either, okay?
	I believe that this was a Ukrainian operation to go ahead and make sure that everyone stayed with them in their fight to defeat Russia, to defeat Putin, and to push them all the way out of Ukraine and Crimea.
	So I think that was what they did, and I think now we're seeing the result of that, and I'm sorry.
	It was never a credible idea that it was ours.
	One of my buddies, who was on the show one time, Pete Crittenden, went out and said on Twitter that, you know that U.S.
	Navy SEALs didn't do this, because if they'd done it, they'd be on TV bragging about it, and there'd be a movie and a book deal and a bunch of hair gel endorsements.
	It wasn't us.
	It was Ukraine or Ukrainian cutout in some way.
	And I think it's time now to go ahead and look at that entire And debacle, you know, and that's what it is.
	Look at all the damage that's been done.
	Look at all the lives that have been lost.
	Look at all the treasure that has been spent for a situation.
	And I mentioned it earlier on the show.
	I said a year plus ago to Seb on this show is going to end at the exact position we're in right now.
	And that was basically where we were a year ago.
	So we can keep funding this, we can keep creating a situation where the possibility of Vlad the Vicious, who wants his place in history to be something more than the guy who lost a war to a Ukrainian comic who does cross-dressing music videos.
	I just don't see Vlad going out like that, and anybody who's studied strongmen, Russians, the Cold War, tyrants, or anything else should either.
	I think there is a lot of wish-casting going on, saying, oh, all we have to do, you know, Putin's not crazy, he'll never clack off a nuke, but he doesn't have to.
	He's got the ability to let, oh, maybe that Ukrainian nuke plant burn a little hot and cause a problem.
	You know, there's a bunch of ways he could escalate this using the capabilities he has since most of his expeditionary army got destroyed.
	And that was the other rationale for continuing to fight to the end on this was to make sure Putin could never invade another country.
	You know, he couldn't go West, he couldn't go through the Baltics, he couldn't attack the rest of Europe.
	He can't.
	He doesn't have the military capabilities left, and he certainly doesn't have the support for any of that domestically.
	He's barely got the support to hang on to the Russian-speaking provinces he continues to hold right now, and Crimea.
	And he's going to be willing to keep that in the end, rather than fight a battle he can't win.
	Now it's time for us to put the screws to Zelensky and his crew and tell them, that's all the yachts we're paying for, buddy.
	It's time to make peace.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	We will be back after the break with more America First Radio. -
	Troll left the call board.
	Oh, no.
	I'm so sad.
	Womp womp.
	Yeah.
	Oh, he keeps calling back.
	Really?
	Possibly.
	What, has he got voice recognition on him now?
	Alright, so I guess we're on me for the rest of this.
	I must have something to talk about.
	We got to do some tranny action too.
	Right? - Woo!
	That's one way to put it.
	Now that's on the Rumble livestream and I'm sure I'm cancelled because I said that.
	I said it because remember Seb was taping that interview with the British guy and you were talking about how they get away with saying stuff like this.
	It's like it's nothing.
	It's not a bad word.
	I enjoy it.
	It's a phonetically pleasing word to say.
	And it drives them crazy.
	And here's the thing, okay, since queer is now back in vogue, right?
	I mean, queer was a smear.
	We literally, when I was a child, there was a game using the word queer and the word smear, where you played with a football and you tackled the guy with the football.
	That lasted till when I was a kid.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that was, that was a thing, but now they took it back.
	And the funny thing is, you know what they forgot to do?
	When they brought back queer, they forgot to say nobody but queers can say it.
	Like they did.
	The black people got smart.
	You know, they, Oh, no, it's the N word.
	That's ours.
	And you guys can't say it.
	I'm trying to figure out on Twitter, how do you decide who gets to say that word and who doesn't?
	Twitter's algorithm says, okay, I see an n-word in this tweet.
	Let me look at the AVI.
	Ooh, that's a white guy.
	Oh, but the AVI is black.
	So if I have a black AVI, right, do I get to use that word on Twitter?
	Or do I have to use the N-I-G-G-A version, you know?
	I mean, all of these things.
	I'm interested in how the thought policing is going to work going forward.
	You don't need A.I.
	for that, because if the wrong person says that, they will be the liberal mob will tear them apart.
	They'll be found out?
	Yeah, in a second.
	So if I just go ahead and put Eddie Murphy on as my A.V.I., I can't get away with that?
	That's too bad.
	Or Chris Rock.
	I should put Chris Rock on as my A.V.I.
	for a while and see what happens.
	What's up?
	Slickter's doing lawyer stuff.
	He's billing.
	He's billing hours.
	Quarter hours.
	Quarter hours.
	That's funny.
	We were sitting, him, me, and Seb were sitting at the bar at CPAC, just shooting the shit, and all of a sudden he took a text, right?
	And I watch it.
	He's go, oh shit, I gotta do this.
	And he goes, text, text, text, text.
	That was like 30 seconds later.
	I'm like, that was 500 bucks, wasn't it?
	Like, you just charged $500 for that text message.
	Anything is a quarter hour.
	Yep.
	That's insanity.
	Lawyers, man.
	They're scum.
	Well, it was the joke is that Schlichter didn't actually have to work as he was an officer, so now he's doing work as a lawyer.
	Ooh, that's funny.
	I like that.
	I can't.
	My wife's a lieutenant colonel as well, though, so I gotta watch my butt.
	We don't do the officer enlisted thing.
	Should we?
	We only got half an hour.
	We're out of time, Alex.
	It's too late at this point.
	We'll do it next time.
	We'll do it next time.
	I should have.
	I think we'll jump into the trans thing now.
	Did anybody watch Chris Rock's new special?
	I haven't seen it.
	Is it good?
	I don't know.
	I haven't seen it.
	He hasn't been good in a while.
	The one to watch if you just want to watch Chris Rock at his best is Bring the Pain.
	I watched it after you told me that.
	Yeah, Bring the Pain.
	It was very good.
	It was hilarious.
	And he could never do that again.
	It's not legal.
	The big draw of this one isn't that he finally addresses the whole Will Smith thing.
	Yeah, whatever.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	Hey folks, I'm glad to be back, sitting in for Dr. G today.
	And I just spent my time last segment discussing why I think it's time to get out of the Ukraine war and make peace there, and how I think Ukraine actually was the ones who blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline.
	We got a call on this topic, so I want to talk to Joe from Philly.
	What are you thinking?
	Well, what I think, Jim, that you're missing, one of the points you're missing, is Vladimir Putin wanted to make sure that Zelensky never joins NATO.
	And you just never were given that assurance.
	And that's one of the reasons the Russians went in.
	All you had to do was say, you know what?
	We can never join NATO.
	We just can't do it.
	Well, yeah, no, I think that's I think that's a legitimate point.
	And I think part of the problem was and if you're Putin and Russia, of course, you don't want NATO members, especially a relatively good sized state that would represent a threat.
	As part of NATO, because then any scrap, any border dispute is no longer me and my neighbor Ukraine.
	It's me and my neighbor Ukraine and their friends in Europe and the United States.
	And that's not something they want to deal with.
	And I think we did.
	I think that was poorly handled.
	They, you know, they got rid of their nukes.
	They believed us.
	They said, we'll watch your back.
	Or we said we'd watch their back.
	You know, and then we started making this, oh, Ukraine should be part of NATO talk.
	And I think that was part of Putin's rationale.
	But it was.
	He said it is.
	And I think that, to some extent, was justified.
	So that was a mistake on our part.
	And a lot of people paid the price for it.
	And now, smart thing to do is get out of there before it gets any worse and go ahead and move on.
	I want to jump completely into a different boat because one of the things that happened at CPAC was Michael Knowles, in the middle of his speech, had said something along the lines of he wanted to eradicate transgenderism from the public square.
	And obviously that's something that the woke left, the crazies jumped on and said he just advocated genocide against anybody who is not a straight white male, which of course is absurd.
	And I think they tried to seize on the fact that he said transgenderism.
	OK, well, if you say you want to eradicate racism, that doesn't mean you're eradicating the people, right?
	It means you're eradicating the ideology.
	And I think what they're trying to avoid is there is a queer agenda.
	There is a queer pedagogy, an activist wing, and a movement that is trying to change everything we do and think about men, women, males, females, sex, children, and then you get into the pansexual forest elf fairy category.
	All right, all of those things, they want to eradicate the actual differences Between men, women, males, females, boys, girls, and adults and children for that matter.
	And they're doing this in a way that calling it transgenderism is not inaccurate.
	All right, I think maybe we should move to something like queer activism and do that because they use the word, let's use it as well.
	But the idea is that they want to go ahead and at the youngest level tell all children that the norms of our society, the things that we have relied on and every society has relied on since the beginning of human civilization to perpetuate itself are no longer relevant.
	And the only reason they can get away with that is because we became so prosperous and, you know, we took our eye off the ball and they went insane in academia and they built these, you know, demented ideologies that they're now foisting on us because they have control of our education system.
	Well, when someone like Michael Knowles has the guts to stand up and say what they're doing is wrong and we should remove that from the public square, I think you have to go ahead and stand up for him.
	I did, you know, and obviously there's plenty of examples of other people saying this is J.K.
	Rowling has said men and women are different.
	Oh, my God, how dare she?
	You know, and they're trying to get her video games and books banned.
	It's not something that requires you to believe that the people who want to do those things, that transgendered people or other queer people are bad people.
	But we can believe that that ideology, that that activist movement that is trying to replace what is a normal, civilizational way to approach men, women, males, females, and all of that, and say that that activism is unacceptable, especially when they're doing it aimed at children too young to understand.
	Kids under the age of eight and six or whatever can barely decide what they want for lunch.
	There's no business anybody talking to them about what their gender identity is.
	I'm Jim Hansen.
	We're doing America First Radio.
	We could be back after the break.
	And if there's more people who want to talk about Trump DeSantis, we'll do that too.
	I'm really glad about is that that Murdoch trial is finally over.
	I was sick of seeing that non-stop on Fox.
	What a clown.
	It's all of it, whether it's that or Gabby Petito, I'm sick of these, like, really sensationalized cases that Fox just obsesses over.
	That's because you don't follow it.
	You don't know anything about it.
	I don't care about it, though.
	You watched the first episode of the Netflix special and stopped watching it.
	The other stuff was the good stuff.
	Even before that, I didn't care.
	I just don't care.
	I'm like, why is this case getting all the attention it gets?
	Because it's a rich dude that killed his wife and son.
	Does that not happen, like, all the time?
	Any embezzled?
	What, all the time?
	People kill their wife and son?
	I mean, where did you grow up?
	I think Geoff's just mad because it was a ginger making you guys look bad.
	Is that what it was?
	I'm not a ginger!
	You're ginger-ish, dude.
	Are you blonde?
	What are you calling yourself?
	I'm blonde.
	The hair's very dark because it's in the wintertime.
	Is that what it is?
	Yeah.
	No, but my son has red hair.
	I've been calling him Murdoch the last couple weeks.
	Oh, dude, that ain't right.
	That ain't right.
	Now, that's some sensationalist.
	I understand Eric's point, but I also understand why people want to watch.
	No, the backstory that I can't believe is the millions and millions that he stole from this law firm and nobody knew.
	How do you get away with that for more than a year?
	Yeah, the housekeeper, the settlement was like $4.3 million, which, by the way, he probably killed.
	And he gave the kids $500,000.
	And how did they not know what the settlement is in the case?
	Right?
	I don't know.
	And he claims it was a drug addiction.
	Something else was going on with the money.
	Dude, I'm sorry, that much drugs will kill you.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I know some junkies, and that's more money than you can spend on drugs and live.
	But even now, I mean, I guess that's done, that people, they're going to see pop up every now and then, the Idaho murders, like that case is going to be going on, like when that trial starts, that's going to be a whole thing.
	That's because it's good-looking girls that were killed.
	That's what gets the people.
	It took them too long to find the guy, too.
	I gotta be honest.
	If I gotta watch a murder trial, I want it to be a hot chick.
	That word, that's what they used against me when I said DeSantis.
	That picture they had of him partying with the two... No, the hot chicks.
	Yeah, I said, you're showing me a picture of DeSantis partying with two hot chicks.
	And he was younger, too.
	He was 23!
	I'm all about the oppo research on DeSantis, but that was...
	Yeah, I'm like, you're showing me a guy partying as a recent college graduate with two high school graduate hot chicks and you want me to hate him?
	20 years ago or whatever, yeah.
	Right?
	How is that supposed to work?
	Didn't he try to pull something like that against him at Gates too?
	Yeah.
	Gates they had a little more, but it was just it was so weak and of course he got away with it, you know?
	One minute.
	All right, I need to do my food, right?
	Uh, no, um... Oh, yeah, it is food.
	You're right.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Last, third, and final food read.
	And then we are golden.
	Because they're hungry.
	Mm-hmm.
	Mm-hmm.
	Thank you.
	It's Jim Hansen.
	Hey folks, I'm glad to be back.
	If you want more of my cogent commentary, witty repartee, and all that stuff, I do most of my flapping of digital gums on Twitter, at Jim Hansen DC.
	And it's worth it.
	I am quite possibly the most entertaining person on Twitter, and I know that's a pretty high bar.
	You can also get my book, Get Based, which is available on Amazon and talks about how based as a lifestyle is a way to take control and not take crap from anybody, take your lifestyle and bend it to be good for you.
	So that's another great place to get information.
	But let me take a quick moment to remind you about the annual spring campaign for Food for the Poor.
	It continues today, and I hope if you haven't yet had an opportunity to join, you will today.
	We're rushing urgently needed food to the 17 countries that Food for the Poor serves all year round in the Caribbean and throughout Central America, literally the poorest of the poor.
	Severe drought and famine are threatening the lives of children and families.
	The situation in Honduras is especially dire, as we hear in this report from Honduran TV.
	Two-thirds of the country is in a food crisis.
	We are talking of 400,000 small producers' families, and each family has at least five members.
	There are 3.2 million Hondurans living in a situation of poverty and hunger.
	And the situation is especially hard on kids.
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	OK, now, when I was pointing out how brilliant I am and entertaining and all the other things that, of course, you're well aware of, this just recently, today, actually, a hit piece came out attacking me and my buddy John Cardillo and others of my friends over a little scrap we had at CPAC and an ongoing kind of battle between the Trump and DeSantis camps that I'm not in the DeSantis camp.
	I don't get paid by politicians.
	That's not part of what I do.
	But like I said, I've been calling for a solid primary, and so have some others of my friends.
	So we got an argument, and the good morons at the Daily Beast, who are reprehensible toads, decided they wanted to try and stir the pot.
	So they wanted to go ahead and write a story about the argument we got in, and I posted some video, and you know, there was a little kerfuffle.
	Right?
	So the Daily Beast thinks they can make some hay with this and wanted a comment from me, you know, so they could use that to go ahead and try and rile everybody up.
	And I'm not going to do that.
	I'm not going to help them.
	I know what they're about.
	You know, they're a scum sucking, pond, bottom dweller, useless entity.
	So I wasn't going to give them a quote.
	But then I said, rather than just decline to comment, why don't I give them a quote?
	So if you want to throw it up there, Eric, I had a little line I sent to them, and I said, I don't conduct intra-party squabbles on enemy media.
	And they printed it, which is just beautiful.
	From my perspective, that was a bonus.
	They can write whatever they want.
	I don't care.
	It's not going to change anything I believe or any of you believe.
	They're just trying to stir up trouble.
	But now I actually got Enemy Media to print my smear of them as Enemy Media and note that I'm not going to help them with their game.
	And I just thought that was fun.
	That's a little bonus we can get.
	One more area I want to just touch on real quick.
	We've been, we talked a lot, we talked with Darren Beatty from Revolver about the abuse of power and some of the things that are going on.
	There was a terrorist attack in this country and they literally, I was surprised, they at least made some arrests.
	I'm talking about the Antifa mob of somewhere between 75 to 100 of them attacked the police facility that's under construction near Atlanta.
	and you know there's been a there was one of them got shot there recently when he pulled out a gun and tried to shoot at a cop they killed him good and now these morons got together a mob and brought fireworks and fire bombs and they burnt a bunch of construction equipment and some of the stuff that was being done there and the supplies and everything in what is rightly in this case being called a domestic terror attack
	And I guess I was surprised, but the police who arrested them now arrested them, first of all, for domestic terrorism.
	And it looks like they're being charged for that, which I didn't expect.
	I expected them to, you know, to make it something like disorderly conduct.
	You do their usual thing and say, well, no, actually it's only domestic terrorism if it's people on the right.
	You know, the only extremists are the white supremacists and all that.
	So I think it was interesting that they arrested them.
	and charged them with domestic terrorism.
	But then they went back to their normal true colors.
	And one of the scumbags was actually a lawyer who works for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is a propaganda outfit whose job is to smear people on the right and organizations on the right to call them Nazis and white supremacists At one point, dozens of years ago, back in the civil rights movement, they were part of that.
	Now they just do nothing but that.
	So one of their lawyers was literally part of the terrorist attack on what is essentially a function of government.
	A law enforcement training center.
	So we have armed and violent attack on a function of government by a terrorist group.
	That sounds like everything they say about January 6th, which it wasn't.
	So they arrested him, charged him with domestic terrorism, and then they let him out on bail with a $5,000 bond.
	Come on, people!
	Seriously?
	I mean, I knew it was too much to hope that they might actually treat this properly.
	But no, we do have two tiers of justice.
	There is one for our team, where you get solitary confinement, you know, and your bail is a billion dollars, and you spend it in a D.C.
	jail two years before you even go to trial.
	Or if you're a leftist domestic terrorist, you spend a couple nights in jail, somebody posts $5,000 bond, and you're out.
	That's not something this country can continue to tolerate.
	And that's why we need a president, whatever his name may be, who will shut that down.
	I'm Jim Hanson.
	This is America First.
	Sitting in for Dr. G.
	More after the break.
	We got a couple of calls again, huh?
	Aside from the lame stalker.
	I like being called a poser.
	I actually had someone when I first started blogging and I was I think I might have actually, I spent about a year and a half or two where I was Uncle Jimbo and had not revealed my identity because I worked, I had a real job and you know I couldn't be, Uncle Jimbo was a bit of a bomb thrower.
	I really couldn't be him and keep my job.
	And someone online went ahead and claimed that I actually was in Special Forces.
	They're like, yo, Jim Hansen, he's a poser.
	I got in a beef with some other guy and one of their fans went out and did this and then it came out on a couple sites and I had all these people attacking me and I'm like, fine, I've had enough of this.
	So I'm like, alright, time to pull the mask off.
	I pulled it off and what I did is, okay, I've now been accused of being a poser and I went and got all the plaques I got from teams I was on.
	Most of which have either a knife or a green beret or a skull or something like that, right?
	And I just started showing it.
	Oh, this is ODA 124, Jim Hansen.
	Bugger off, wanker, which is what it said, right?
	It said, here's the plaque from this team.
	Feel free to contact any of these people who I served with, you know?
	And I went through the whole thing.
	I'm like, you people just, come on.
	I mean, on the list of things to do, accusing me of being a poser is just a waste of everybody's time.
	The January 6th footage to me just finally confirmed.
	They will just lie about everything.
	There's not a single thing they'll tell the truth on.
	Then okay.
	And I get it.
	I think it's time to accept that.
	And it doesn't mean we should lie.
	But it means we don't have to be scrupulous with how we portray the truth.
	And I will play propaganda right back at them.
	If that's the rules you guys chose, then don't expect me to feel bad when I take a quote out of context or anything else.
	Because I'm going to do that.
	They literally just made transgenderism into a reality when it was pure fiction just a few decades ago.
	We gotta stop them.
	And yeah, I think Knowles just needs more credit for that speech he gave at CPAC.
	It was bold.
	And I wonder, I want to ask him if he used that word on purpose because he knew it would make their heads explode rather than something else.
	It was bold.
	Hey, Jeff, is Patrick from Cleveland legit?
	Thank you.
	Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
	It's Jim Hanson.
	This is it.
	This is the last segment of America First Radio today.
	You should have Dr. Sebastian Gorka back tomorrow.
	And I have enjoyed talking to America First country about both the presidential election and other issues.
	And we got one more caller I'm going to get in before we hit the end of today.
	So Patrick in Cleveland.
	You want to talk about Ukraine?
	Well, talk about the Nord Stream 1 and 2.
	Sure.
	I cannot more disagree with you about that it was the Ukraine that did it.
	There's no commercial diving operation or individuals that would even dare attempt such an audacious attack on a major international pipeline.
	Just the criminal liability itself, not to mention everything else that would follow, it has to be a state actor.
	I mean, to do that in such a strait that's monitored by NATO, by the Russians, there's no private individual that would even think about doing that, not to mention going down 300 feet.
	The equipment and the water to do that, the time to do that, there's just no way it was somebody private or somebody hired out.
	It had to be a state actor, and I think it was probably the U.S.
	Well, I obviously disagree with you, and I actually, I was talking with the guys before this, you gave me half a million dollars, I could blow up pretty much anything you want on the planet, anywhere, regardless of where it is, because there are people who will do that.
	There are four more, you could look at it, they could be Russian.
	You know, they could be former special operations dive people or salvage people or whatever from anyplace else.
	And you put a million dollars in somebody's hand and say, here's a million dollars.
	You do this.
	We'll pay your costs.
	And you get a million and you get to go away.
	They're going to do that.
	You know, yes, there's criminal liability.
	There's people who do much more dangerous stuff and risk much more horrifying consequences for a lot less money.
	So I know that it's possible for it to be done by a non-state actor.
	And I think it's more likely if you just look at Quibono, who benefits?
	The U.S.
	didn't benefit.
	The only people who benefited was Ukraine continuing to keep the world's attention focused on their war with Russia for as long as they had to.
	All right.
	I want to finish up with just my final thoughts on Trump and DeSantis.
	I want either one of them, OK?
	I don't care.
	I will be honest.
	There were very, very good arguments put forth by the Trump supporters.
	And I asked for them and I got them.
	And I went in between segments and talked to the crew.
	And I'm like, I am hopeful.
	They're convincing me.
	You know, my opinion of whether Trump can win is changing.
	So I don't care which one of them.
	If we can get Trump in and he can shred D.C.
	the way it needs, no one will be happier than me.
	I just want to make sure that we don't allow another Democrat another four years to put commie judges and woke policies and fiscally irresponsible activities into destroying this great republic.

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