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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Elon drops #TwitterFiles5
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It's always fun to be driving into work as Elon's team decides to do their fifth Twitter files drop.
It's about the Lack of transparency and the lack of universal standards when it came to minimizing the effect of President Trump with his 94 million followers on Twitter and deleting his account when others such as the Ayatollahs or North Korea could say whatever they wanted on Twitter.
We'll discuss that and so much more but let me just share with you another hot off the press announcement.
I've just received this From our buddy Mike Lindell's office, it is the official statement that has been released by our friend.
Mike Lindell announces he's running for the Republican National Committee Chair.
Mike Lindell officially announces his challenge to the sitting RNC Chair, Rona Romney McDaniel.
I added the Romney there because people should know who her uncle is.
It's time to get real with the state of the Republican Party.
Quote, this is from Mike.
The current RNC leadership has failed for three election cycles.
The donors have approached me.
They are not going to give any more to the RNC.
When you have three Fs in a row, which is correct since 2017, we have had three failures from Ronia McDaniel's chairmanship.
You don't get elected.
One of the biggest failures was collecting money for the same old status quo, thinking you are going to win with a failed model.
My opponent promised she would look into the 2020 election.
She fundraised on that promise.
She broke that promise.
The RNC did not do anything to fix our elections and they cherry-picked their candidates and would not back the people's choice.
This is a critical time for the Republican Party.
The donors need a return on their investment.
And so does the country.
I have done my due diligence and can't figure out why my opponent would even consider running again.
That's a good question.
Why would Rona Romney McDaniel run again after three losses in a row?
Great question, Mike.
I assume she has another agenda other than saving our country.
That's a very solid assumption.
What could that agenda be?
I also intend to donate my salary back to the RNC to show my belief in this party under my leadership.
We cannot ask people to invest in a failed model anymore.
Remember, people forget that's exactly what President Trump did for four years, who gave his salary as president back to the people.
Quote, the Republican Party needs leadership in modern technology on election insecurities and on supporting our incredible grassroots candidates across the country.
I have that knowledge and I am already engaged with all 50 states doing this work without the title.
It's incredible what Mike did for the President's campaign, how much he invested of his own money to travel the country and support the President and his candidates.
That's just a statement of fact.
As a successful CEO of many companies with thousands of employees, who has faced much adversity and has had to change my actions based on my current footprint, I know how to adapt.
Well, yeah, given how the left has tried to destroy him, yeah, he does.
I know what must be done to make our party the strongest it has ever been.
Rona McDaniel has not done that.
She has failed as the current RNC Chair.
The big donors as well as the regular everyday person would be foolish to contribute to this current system as it's being led.
And they know that.
Herschel Walker's race is another F for Rona Romney McDaniel.
We have a country to save and I intend to help our great Republican leaders across the country do that.
All right, well, perfect timing.
I didn't rehearse any of that with our friend Mike Lindell, but I did put... I don't know if I sent this to Eric.
I've got into the polling business again.
It's a lot of fun to reach out to you guys and get your take on an issue I want to discuss.
On the show.
What was that last poll, that pathetic poll that said there's more support for Ron DeSantis and President Trump?
They asked, what, 320 people?
Well, I posted a poll on Twitter an hour ago, and I've already got 3,000 votes.
That's more than the average political poll.
That's a 24-hour poll.
In the first hour, I've had 3,000 votes.
And the question is simple.
Did the GOP, did the RNC, Ever really support President Trump?
Very simple question.
Did the Republican establishment ever really support President Trump?
Yes or no?
Eric, who's doing some impersonations of our liner readers, a deep voice Dave today.
What do you think people on Twitter said to the question, did the GOP ever really support President Trump?
What do you think the yes to no answer ratio is there?
I'm willing to bet no less than 80%.
Okay.
80% for no?
Okay.
Jeff, how many people do you think on Twitter expected, said, no, the GOP didn't support the President?
I'd say even more.
Closer to 90%.
All right, guys.
It's here.
First two hours of voting.
95% of you guys, 95% of you said the RNC, the GOP didn't support the president.
Quite, quite stunning.
5%.
5% of my 1.2 million followers who have answered the poll already said Well, it's time for a change!
Whether it's our Meet Dylan, whether it's Mike Lindell, whether it's our buddy Lee Zeldin, we need change!
Who can do it?
I'll do a poll.
Yeah, I'll do a poll.
I'll do a poll.
See who you guys support.
But when it comes to the Twitter files drop that we started the show with, people are missing the point.
They're talking about the internal machinations, the granular decisions, that pervert Joel Roth, the quote-unquote former head of safety who wrote a dissertation, a PhD on children using the homosexual sex app Grindr.
It's not about the internal decisions.
Who cares about the internal decisions?
It's about the internet interaction with federal government.
It's the fact that people like your Roth were meeting weekly, weekly with the FBI, with DHS, with the Director for National Intelligence's office.
That's deeply un-American.
We're going to discuss that and so much more with a bevy of amazing guests to include none other than Tara Reade.
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back after these messages you have the one of the um the one i just sent you about he wants to date me right Yeah.
That guy has been just popping up all over Twitter.
He is obsessed with me.
He's a weirdo.
It is really quite a thing.
He has the same energy as those handful of losers who got famous for being like the top replies to like every Trump tweet ever.
Well, he looks like a, you know, a Lincoln Project pervert.
You know?
Pervy!
Oh, uh, titles.
Um, oh, don't we need ins and outs?
Um, oh, that is true.
Uh, ins and outs.
Are you good, John?
Yep, I'm just gonna, yeah, you can just tack it on on this recording, so whenever you're ready.
We'll be back with Professor James Lindsay after these messages.
Stay with us here one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, and James Lindsay.
We'll be back after these messages one-on-one with Professor James Lindsay and me, your host, Sebastian Gorka.
Welcome back to America First one-on-one with our special guest, Professor James Lindsay.
You're listening to America First one-on-one with me, Sebastian Gorka, and the author of Cynical Theories, James Lindsay.
Welcome back to America First with me, Sebastian Gawker, and James Lindsay.
All right, it's Greg's up.
All right.
Mr. Jarrett.
Hey, what's up?
You've been a busy bee.
Yeah, you know, a little of this, a little of that.
All right, well, we're going to talk Twitter, First Amendment.
What else is on your radio screen?
Let's talk about your habit of sleeping in bed with your suit on.
Okay, we can do that.
We'll start with that.
My wife got a kick out of that.
I know.
Can you imagine?
I flew from, you know, the swamp to Seattle to record that, you know, 60 second ad.
And they hadn't cleared the script with me.
And I arrived there, you know, after a five hour flight.
And they said, yeah, meet this woman who's going to play your wife lying in bed in a negligee.
And you're going to get in bed with your suit on.
And it's like, what do I say?
No.
And then rewrite the script and I'll come back in another six months.
So I said, OK, let's do it.
Well, you could have at least Sat on top of the bed sheets with your suit on.
No, I think the whole point is they thought it was... They thought a lot of people like you would ask questions and therefore it would stick in the mind and I think they have succeeded.
It certainly does, yeah.
What was the drink supposed to be in that?
Was that supposed to be a hot toddy?
Hot toddy, yeah.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, it wasn't a glass of milk to be sure.
No, no.
It was insane.
There were 40 people on that set.
40 people.
It was nuts.
Must have been a union shop.
Well, you know, it's Seattle.
Yeah, of course it was union.
All right, 40 seconds.
Standby.
I'll use the audio of the girls, but I'll tee it up.
All righty.
The same one that you used in the last one?
Yeah.
Okay.
30 seconds.
It's the Quentin and Alana one, John.
Yep, I got it.
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All right, they've dropped the Twitter files number five load of documents about the banning of President Trump.
Somebody who has been non-stop commenting about it.
He is the scourge of the swamp, the author of the Russia hoax and witch hunt.
Fox News' very own Greg Jarrett.
Greg, welcome back to America First.
Yes, Seb, good to be back with you.
Now, what has been your reaction over the last two weeks?
At the beginning, I got into a lot of hot water with those who just didn't get what I was saying.
I said at the beginning, big whoop!
All I've seen so far is the DNC colluding with Palo Alto and Big Tech.
We knew that.
I want to see federal collusion, circumvention of the First Amendment.
The drops since then have increasingly got better and better.
Will you give us your legal appraisal of the quality of what we're seeing and what you expect?
In the first Twitter files, number one, there was no mention of the FBI's involvement in the suppression of speech in particular, censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story.
There appears to have been a reason for that.
It looks like James Baker, former general counsel of the FBI, who then went to Twitter, sanitized the Twitter files before Musk caught him and canned him.
Then all of a sudden, in the subsequent Twitter files, we're beginning to see, yes indeed, The FBI, a particular agent, Elvis Chan, was meeting weekly with Facebook and Twitter and basically warning them in advance of the Hunter Biden laptop story and saying, you know, this is going to be Russian disinformation.
It had nothing to do with Russian disinformation.
It had everything to do with U.S.
intelligence.
Disinformation.
And it was obviously a mirror image of the 51 former U.S.
intel officials who labeled the laptop Russian disinformation when they knew it was not.
It was a particularly egregious lie that may have thrown the election in favor of Joe Biden because it happened just weeks before people cast their ballots.
What legally is the situation?
At which point can you say that there is an end run being executed around the constitution because it's not the government agency that's curtailing individuals free expression, but it's them doing a backdoor maneuver through a private company.
What do you require as evidence to say, aha, this is an indirect manipulation of free speech through a private actor?
Well, there's two doctrines at stake here, the First Amendment and free speech.
People tend to conflate the two, understandably so.
Anytime the government At any level, including the FBI, engages in censorship either overtly or covertly through a proxy or a surrogate, that's a violation of the First Amendment.
Now, if the government isn't involved, like the Biden campaign pressuring Twitter and Facebook to censor the laptop story, That's not a strict violation of the First Amendment, but it is a violation of the principles of free speech, as Democrat Congressman Ro Khanna pointed out at the time that the laptop story was censored.
We found in the Twitter files emails from him to Twitter execs saying, don't do this, you're violating The spirit and the intent and the principles of free speech, and he was 100% correct, and I give him great credit for that.
So, there's two principles there.
What about the concept of campaign finance violation, that if Twitter is doing something for the DNC and they're not charging for it, isn't that illegal?
Yeah, it could be.
I agree with you.
You know, it would have to be knowing and willful and with an understanding that that was a campaign contribution.
So under the codes, that's kind of a tough case to make, but it's arguably, you're right, it could be a campaign violation.
What does this all mean for the executive for The Swamp?
That will be my next question to our buddy, legal and political analyst for Fox News.
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And the seminal works that must be on your bookshelf are, of course, The Russia Hoax and Witch Hunt.
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I'm going to ask you a question about James Baker, AOC, and then the future of the Bureau.
Okay.
Can you move the camera, guys?
Don't ever rest it in the middle because I can't see the...
The board then.
All right, good.
What about AOC?
What do you have?
The article, like, what do we know about this house ethics investigation?
Or is it still a pig in a poke?
Yeah, I'm not sure we really know.
But yeah, you know, she went to that gala and, you know, somebody provided her with her fancy dress and free tickets.
So it'll be like a financing issue, probably.
Yeah, probably, you know, a little slap on the wrist thing.
Right, guys, can you come in with... Oh, I'll do PhD here, but first let's come in with... Cut to.
Yeah, let's do... Mike Lindell declares for RNC chairman.
Then for James, the left is actually a cult.
Here's the evidence.
So you're working on a new book, Greg?
Yeah, Trial of the Century.
It comes out in May.
It's about the infamous Scopes Monkey Trial, Creationism vs. Evolution, and the great Clarence Darrow, my hero, the greatest trial lawyer who ever lived.
Wow.
Who's the publisher?
It is Simon & Schuster.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
Then I have a book on the Constitution coming out in September.
That's HarperCollins.
What made you decide to write about the Scopes Monkey Trial?
Because I have always believed it was the real trial of the century.
Forget O.J.
and, you know, the Lindbergh kidnapping case and Leopold and Loeb.
It was the trial of the century.
It was important in terms of academic freedom and free speech, which resonates still today as we were talking about in the segment.
Right.
William Jennings Bryan.
you Yep.
Yeah, he melted down on cross-examination, a withering cross by Clarence Darrow, died five days later, still in Dayton, Tennessee, where the trial took place.
I went there and got into the archives and obtained the original trial transcript of the case.
Oh my gosh, very cool.
Yeah.
You ever see the play or the movie Inherit the Wind with Spencer Tracy?
No.
Yeah, it was a fictionalized version of The Trial of the Century, and Spencer Tracy played the character of Darrow, and Frederick March played William Jennings Bryan, and Gene Kelly was H.L.
Mencken.
Oh my gosh.
Inherit the Wind.
All right.
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Greg, you have numerous articles at the top of your Twitter feed.
Everybody has to follow you around.
Greg Jarrett.
Let me ask you about James Baker.
You say that Musk's decision to fire the deputy counsel for Twitter was such an important one because he was found to be sanitizing the documents that were being given to Matt Taibbi.
What is your expectation?
Somebody who spent 30 years at the DOJ, literally 30 years, he started in 1990.
Sideways movement to Twitter and then sanitizing these documents.
Do you expect that he was just working by himself and just decided to do that?
Or do you think somebody else was telling him to do that?
He was a natural fit to join Twitter, as I pointed out in my column.
It gave the FBI an insider, a mole, an operative at Twitter.
And, you know, sure enough, there is evidence, according to Musk, that he was cleansing the Twitter files before he was caught red-handed by Musk, and then sacked.
You know, Baker is a hyper-partisan.
He's a biased character who helped fuel the Russia collusion hoax.
When he was, you know, FBI's general counsel, he was the conduit for anti-Trump smears that We're invented by Hillary Clinton, you know, together with Comey, McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page.
You know, the Bureau became a cesspool of corruption.
They spied on the Trump campaign, lied to the FISA court to gain lawless warrants.
You know, it's all in both my books, but so it's no surprising that James Baker is knee-deep in the Twitter files trying to conceal wrongdoing by Twitter.
But do you think he was acting by himself or because somebody at DOJ or FBI said, hey, you got to sanitize those documents before anybody sees them?
Oh, I think it's a little bit of both.
He has an allegiance to the FBI.
And, you know, if you you'll find on page 237 of Elvis Chan, the FBI agent's deposition in a censorship lawsuit that, you know, they were pals, the whole gang.
Elvis Chan, who was warning Twitter of the forthcoming Hunter Biden laptop story, and Baker and Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.
So, you know, it is a, you know, cabal of like-minded people that hated Trump and were more than happy to run a protection racket for Joe Biden.
The books are Witch Hunt and The Russia Hoax.
The website is TheGregJarrett.com.
So here's the big question for the post-midterms GOP when it comes to funding bills in the House and then the next president.
The FBI.
We've had people on this show who've had 23, 24 years in and say it is irredeemable, needs to be dismantled, its missions given to other agencies.
Can the FBI be salvaged after what we've found out in just the last few months, Greg?
It could only be salvaged if you get rid of FBI Director Christopher Wray and many of the top officials who, you know, who I think, frankly, and I hate to say it, you know, are corrupt.
That's my opinion.
It's my judgment.
You know, I have argued that the FBI needs to be dismantled.
And it's a shame because the vast majority of the agents are honest, honorable people who work hard.
And do a great job, but it is the leadership at the top, and it began with James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok.
They ruined the good name and reputation of a once esteemed law enforcement agency, and it's going to take a lot of effort to reconstitute it and recover.
If it is at all possible.
We have been talking to Greg Jarrett.
Follow him on Twitter right now.
At Greg Jarrett.
Two G's, two R's, two T's.
Merry Christmas, Greg.
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All righty.
title for that one.
Elon Musk's latest Twitter files drop.
Mm-hmm.
Thank you.
All right, so I'm going to do the Russia thing in A, but I'll take some calls before then.
All right.
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I'm sorry.
Hey Sam, how are you?
Good, good.
How's it going?
Well, sorry I'm running a little behind.
I apologize.
No worries.
What do you want to talk about?
What is it you sent me this morning?
FBI intel chief.
Yes.
He doesn't see any empirical data that suggests that we have a Russia disinformation problem, yet the FBI is doing it often to the detriment of civil liberties.
Yes, perfect, perfect.
That drives very well with what Kyle Serafin was saying, the whistleblower.
Yeah.
Yeah, perfect.
Great.
Let me find the article.
Yeah.
Anything else you want to tease?
I don't have anything in the, this week's an administrative week, so I don't have anything in my barrel right now that I know of.
Okay.
And when was he on your show?
When was Brock on your show?
Friday night.
Friday night.
Okay, good.
Yeah, really, really, really insightful stuff, he said.
And then, you know, some new stuff came out Saturday showing that the FBI made specific requests To censor that Indiana politician, which clearly shows the FBI isn't censoring Russians, they're censoring Americans.
Oh my gosh, it's mind-blowing.
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Good to be with you, Sam.
Now, you had a very special guest, former assistant director of the FBI on your show on Friday, and this individual had something very Very disturbing to say about what the Bureau is doing when it comes to quote-unquote disinformation.
Would you share a summary of what he said to you?
Absolutely.
He is a very special person because he's the very first Intelligence Director of the FBI.
When the FBI moved into the intelligence business after 9-11, he became their first Chief of Intelligence.
He worked for Bob Mueller.
He created most of the rules that the FBI is supposed to follow to protect our civil liberties.
He says he does not see very much empirical data to suggest that we have a Russian disinformation problem affecting our electorate.
And yet the FBI, his old agency, he feels is putting a disproportionate amount of action into fighting disinformation when it's not a problem, it's not Russian-based, and that now what it's doing is it's straying into American civil liberties.
And he went through the history of this.
In 2016 they were focused on Facebook posts that Russia had bought.
All right, that's a legitimate FBI thing.
But by 2020, they're targeting Americans posted have nothing to do with Russian disinformation and engaging in state sponsored censorship.
And he said that he's very, very worried that his agency is off the mark, has lost its way, has created a problem that doesn't exist, and now done so at the expense of American civil liberties.
Yeah, this this connects ominously with what the whistleblower, the FBI whistleblower Kyle Seraphine said on our show last week that what he witnessed, One of the reasons he became a whistleblower was the D.C. headquarters and the Washington field office generating these so-called domestic terrorism threat targets and then passing them out to the regional offices, to the field offices and saying, oh, we're giving you a job, to the field offices and saying, oh, we're giving you a job, which is
It should be the local field offices that see the information and tag it.
It seems as if they're generating things that aren't there.
Talk about what he discussed when it comes to a certain politician as well, John.
Yes, so there's a moment in the Twitter files where you see in 2020 the FBI actually requests that Twitter consider censoring a post by an Indiana councilman, a Republican councilman in Indiana.
No connection to Russia, no correction to foreign intelligence, no correct to a foreign threat.
It's the first real evidence we've seen where the FBI, contrary to what it has told us all for the last few years, was actually asking for Americans to be censored specifically.
And we now know from the deposition of Elvis Chan, an FBI agent that worked in San Francisco, assistance, a special agent in charge of the cybersecurity unit out there, that headquarters sent him requests all throughout the 2020 election to take over to Twitter and say, hey, would you consider censoring these under your various policies?
And he said, under oath, when questioned by the Missouri and Louisiana attorneys general, about 50 percent of the time when I asked Twitter or Facebook to do it, they did it.
They actually censored Americans.
So, you now have proof from two different locations.
The Twitter files released by Elon Musk, the deposition of Elvis Chan, an FBI agent, that the FBI has moved into the censorship business in the name of stopping Russian disinformation, but now directly impacting the free speech of everyday Americans.
What is your qualitative judgment on what we've seen in the last two weeks when it comes to the Twitter file dumps?
At the beginning, you know, I said, look, this is no big shakes, the idea that the DNC was colluding with Palo Alto.
We knew that.
But it seems as if every new dump is a little bit more substantive.
How far do you think it's going to go?
Do you have great expectations?
I think, listen, I think it's going to continue to grow.
I think we're going to see more government agency involvement, more FBI and Homeland Security requests coming through, maybe filtered through a private party, but clearly the recipients at Twitter knowing that this is the FBI or Homeland Security Department making requests.
I think there are two big storylines.
One, anyone who had any doubt that the government was involved in censorship now has.
stories that we now know to be legitimate stories that were being censored or encouraged to be censored by places like the CDC and FDA.
I think there are two big storylines.
One, anyone who had any doubt that the government was involved in censorship now has empirical proof.
And two, Twitter changed its rules to meet whatever political expectation they had at the moment.
And the best example of that is creating a rule specifically just to ban Donald Trump.
They didn't follow their rules and procedures.
They invented a rule and procedure so they could meet a political objective of silencing Donald Trump.
That's concerning from an SEC standpoint, because investors and customers were given a different story at the time.
Yeah, it's a breach of the terms and conditions and also could be a very severe FEC violation of campaign contributions.
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The Russia?
No, that, but also my thing with Elon.
It's in a tweet.
Who do I send it to?
To you, Geoff?
Yes, and it's me.
You can block the lines.
90 seconds.
Title for Solomon.
And also a title for, uh, Mrs. Tara as well.
Um, Solomon... Um... FBI Head of Intel.
on Bureau's corruption. - Hmm. - Okay.
And, uh... Oh, 50 seconds.
So, what did you want to use this segment?
Because I don't know if we'll have that tweet ready.
This segment, nothing.
This segment just calls.
Got it, got it.
Sorry.
It's amazing how these perverts last so long in Palo Alto.
It's amazing how these perverts last so long.
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Let's go to Ray in Livermore.
Welcome, Ray.
Hey, thank you for taking my call, Dr. G. I wanted to talk about what you've been talking about all hour, but I want to lead with Mark Twain, who once said, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.
And that's basically what we're seeing here.
These lies have been going on for years.
They've ruined the first few years of a man's presidency.
And what I want to get to is accountability.
Oh, gosh, Jarrett talked about the FBI being populated by mostly good agents.
Dan Bongino said if it's all mostly good agents or there's only a few bad apples, we're all the good apples.
There's very few good apples actually standing up and saying something.
I'd like to see more good apples point fingers and flip this thing from inside where we don't have to do it from outside.
Correct.
And so you're talking about Fed government collusion and a violation of the First Amendment and using private industries to pull this off.
Lawless behavior by people in our government.
We know the what, where, why, the when and the how.
But who is going to be held accountable for this?
We've seen perp walks of Donald Trump CEOs and people in his administration.
I want to see perp walks of federal employees who engaged in this behavior for violation of our Constitution.
I'm afraid we're not going to see it, Dr. G.
Yeah, I think that's the metric.
When we see the first perp walk of a deep stater, then we know that the tide has turned.
I think that is a metric we will keep ahead of us.
Thank you, Ray.
Let's go to our buddy in Brooklyn, Judy!
Happy Monday!
Hey, welcome back.
Thank you.
It's good to be back.
Yes.
Oh, did you miss us a little?
I missed you guys a lot.
I only had 300 of you in Israel, and I missed the other, you know, 3 million of you.
You stop making me jealous, OK?
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You can come, too.
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Right?
OK, fine.
Listen, OK, we're on.
You've got 60 seconds.
Go for it.
Oh, you're so mean.
You know me.
OK, two things.
Yeah, you're really mean.
Listen, listen.
You know, regarding this political theater with the guilty verdict for Trump and these, you know, biased jurists, I spoke to a tax lawyer who used to be chief counsel of the IRS, and he says, hey, listen, if there was anything for the IRS to prosecute President Trump, they would have by now.
Yes.
So it's all theater.
Yes.
Two, two.
I was reading about this whole thing where they say, oh, he's against the Constitution, blah, blah.
I read his whole quote, and this is what it is.
President Trump is not against the Constitution.
He's against fraud that the Constitution is against.
Bingo!
He's saying they tore up the Constitution.
You nailed it, Judy, as ever.
Don't go anywhere.
Brent, Dave, and David, I'm Sebastian Gawker.
That's one hour down, two to go.
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It's stunning we walked into that trap, or rather Biden did.
Viktor Bout, the merchant of death, exchanged for a pothead lesbian basketball player.
You won't believe what Russian media has done after that exchange and what Bout has said about his future plans.
That and so much more.
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A lot of people are confused that it's a First Amendment issue, what was dumped by Matt Taibbi.
The First Amendment concerns government suppression.
So anything that happened before January the 20th isn't First Amendment, unless it was the Biden administration afterwards.
So for those who think that, you know, we've got the smoking gun and they don't need to wait for anything else, could you address that issue, Mr. Musk?
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, actually, there are issues if there's election interference before the government, because, you know, that is, I think, an issue.
That is, I think, an issue.
It's certainly...
Thank you.
The most awesome voice in talk radio.
No, not me, Dr. G. All right, we'll be getting to your calls momentarily, but I wanted to share with you, there's so many things happening at the same time.
I mentioned this call that we were on with Elon Musk after the first Twitter drop.
It's this thing called a Twitter Spaces.
There were 100,000 of us on live with him as he was flying on his jet connected to us via the internet on of his Starlink.
Satellites.
And I had a question about the lack of a smoking gun when it came to government collusion.
We saw the DNC.
And his response was very, very interesting.
So this is a little snippet of our discussion with Elon Musk just after the first Twitter files dump.
A lot of people are confused that it's a First Amendment issue what was dumped by Matt Taibbi.
The First Amendment anything that happened before January the 20th isn't First Amendment, unless it was the Biden administration afterwards.
So for those who think that, you know, we've got the smoking gun and they don't need to wait for anything else, could you address that issue, Mr. Musk?
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, actually, there are issues if there's election interference before the government, because, you know, that is, I think, an issue. I think, an issue.
Certainly, Twitter, it would appear that Twitter falsely claimed that there was not an election interference.
Right, but that has to do with in-kind contributions.
That's a very different kind of thing, and it is criminal.
But can you tell us if there will be more smoking guns coming?
Yeah, I think there will be more smoking guns, because the obvious next question is, well, what happened after the election?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's probably the right thing for episode two, is what happened after the election.
And how long do we have to wait for episode two?
I don't know.
I'll check with Matt.
So the important thing there is he says, I think there will be smoking guns.
And the fact that he hasn't seen the documents, that he's basically entrusting these, you know, terabytes worth of information to these journalists, and they're sifting through it.
Of course, we know since that call, James Baker, the former Chief Counsel of the FBI, was scrubbing that information, was sanitizing it.
He has since been fired, but the process will be a slow one, but it's getting more and more interesting every single day.
Now, we have a couple of calls that want to talk about the The Brittany Griner swap for Victor Bout.
Before we get to our friends David and Brent, I want to share with you a truly fascinating clip from Russian TV that tells you just how well they've exploited the Biden administration.
We're going to play the clip.
You'll hear the Russian, there's subtitles for our viewers, but we'll put it down a little bit so that I can give you what this newscaster is saying, because this is exactly how they exploited the naivete, the stupidity, the rank amateurism of the Biden administration.
So let's play that cut right now.
Of course, I was very amused but not surprised that Victor Bout was exchanged for Griner and not Paul Whelan.
First of all, I congratulate Bout and his entire family.
For many years, we have been in touch with his family and with him personally to the extent it was possible.
We communicated with Bout.
Of course, this is a huge joy and a relief for all of us.
I can't even imagine what this means to his family.
But he was not exchanged for the heroic spy, because Whelan is a spy.
He was apprehended while receiving information on a flash drive.
He said he was supposed to get photos of churches on a flash drive.
You send church photos through WhatsApp, right?
That's where we get them.
Look where I've been.
You don't get a flash drive brought to you for that.
Quality would be decent.
No worse than on a flash drive.
He is a spy!
Therefore, to them, Whelan is a hero.
He is a hero, a decorated marine covered in medals.
He only has one, no two, no three problems.
His first problem is that he is white.
His second problem is he is a man.
His third problem, he is heterosexual.
This is not that can be forgiven.
This is not something that can be forgiven.
It's a catastrophe.
Yes, Britney Griner beats him in every aspect.
American voters were given a choice, a hero who suffered while serving his fatherland, a metal-covered hero who suffered during his service to his fatherland, the United States, or a black lesbian hooked on drugs who suffered for a vape with hashish and well-known for the sake of PR.
American voters are choosing the obvious.
I think that for us it's one more piece of good news.
The first good news is that Victor Bout has returned.
The second good news is that a nation that spits on its heroes to the extent that it considers significantly more important to free a rightfully charged well-known athlete.
She didn't suffer because she served her motherland, but because she couldn't live 10 hours without dope.
Instead of freeing the person imprisoned for two years for serving his motherland, this says a lot about the state of society of these intelligence agencies and everything related to geopolitical confrontation.
Wow!
Wow.
The spin.
America's government spits on a hero, a decorated marine, and needs to get back the black lesbian dope fiend.
They walked straight into the trap.
Let's go to your calls on this issue.
David Orlando, line two.
Dr. Gorka, thank you for having me on your show.
My initial comment changed slightly after listening to Greg Jarrett.
Putin allowed the Democrats to pin him with Russian collusion and turn for high oil prices and some other backdoor deals.
Now, Putin traded the basketball player for two reasons.
First, the obvious, quit pro quo for Biden arming Ukraine, and second, I believe Russia flipped her.
Russia has made Britney a mole.
She has a newfound fame and access to- Based on what evidence?
That's just a suspicion.
That's just a suspicion.
She's gonna have- Let's see if she runs for Congress one day.
Okay.
My other thought is that Biden's just disqualified themselves from ever running for political office.
Now that it's been exposed that Michelle wrote Twitter to ban Trump, she can never put herself out there for questionings because that question, her or Barack.
Why?
What does she care about being questioned?
Well, if she's going to run for office.
A, she's not going to run, but B, even if she did, who cares?
Who's going to do anything to her?
You think the GOP is going to do something to Michelle Obama?
Well, she's going to have to go through scrutiny and maybe a debate or two.
But perhaps you're right.
What's that got to be?
Why would that stop her?
I don't understand the logic.
Because we know, we knew this already that she wanted to cancel President Trump.
How does that stop her from doing anything, David?
I don't understand the logic.
Well, my logic is, you know, she was exposed doing things that she didn't want the public to know, OK?
And now the public knows, maybe she has a conscience, but I guess you're right.
She has no conscience.
It's not up to her having a conscience or not.
It's up to a spineless GOP, David.
Come on.
Who's going to hold her to account?
Nobody.
Thank you, buddy.
Line three, Brent, Los Angeles.
A holy, illuminating, and courageous Christmas, Great Gorka!
Thank you kindly, my friend.
What brings you to our shores today?
Well, first, welcome home from the Holy Land.
And why the hell did we give a minor merchant of death to Putin, when we could have sent him major merchants of death and mayhem, like Joe and Hunter Biden, Barack Obama, Dr. Death Fauci, Judas Mayorkas, George Soros, Chuck Schumer, Adam Schiff, or Nancy Pelosi?
Couldn't we have given them all?
Couldn't we have given them all of them to Putin?
I mean, that would have been a deal, wouldn't it?
That'd be a dream.
But Biden's acts of treason du jour, they're becoming monotonous.
How about the $80 billion of weapons we gleefully gave to Taliban terrorists?
Or his billion-dollar crime family deals with the CCP.
Or his billions of dollars to Iran to aid and assist them in acquiring nuclear warheads.
Or giving Hamas millions of dollars to pay and slay Jews in Israel.
Or his fentanyl collusion with Mexican cartels in the CCP.
Or his mass murder of senior citizens with COVID, not allowing them safe and effective ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.
Wasn't he supposed to be put before a military firing squad already?
That's a little bit harsh, my friend, but I spoke to a certain congresswoman on Friday night who promised me that on the committee she is a part of, she will be holding Fauci's feet to the fire, and it is going to be a pleasure to watch.
Thank you, my friends.
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What other audios have we used?
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We had the CEO.
Yeah, come in with the CEO.
Are we dialing up, Paul?
He's trying.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Alright.
Still won't answer?
Still.
Oh yeah, we're dialing him now.
All right.
He's up.
Mics are on.
Professor, look at that!
In his fancy office.
Look at that.
Yeah, look at that.
What do you think?
Alright, I want to talk about your piece, Putin's Patsy, and about Bella Dodd, okay?
Okay, sounds good.
Hey, and please mention that I'm now the editor of the American Spectator, because I want Spectator to get a good plug.
We shall.
Editor.
Put that in the chyron.
Editor, American Spectator.
And I'm going to be one of your columnists, right?
I hope so.
Yeah.
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I'm trying to recruit you, dude.
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Thank you.
So what are you going to turn American Spectator into?
Are you going to like those pathetic people at National Review?
Are you going to give us a new conservative magazine that everybody can read?
You know, Newt Gingrich made a comment at our annual gala of the American Spectator.
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You know, going back many, many years, which I think was a nice kind of Newt-like way of putting it.
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All right.
So many things to discuss.
You've got a piece at American Spectator on Putin's Patsy.
We play the Russian TV.
two-minute block at the beginning of this hour where they just said, oh, yeah, Biden spat on the decorated Marine and released the colored lesbian.
I mean, they just played this so perfectly.
Let's also listen to somebody who is the opposite of Newt Gingrich because I don't know if she's got two brain cells to rub together.
This is Sheila Jackson Lee talking about how evicted about.
No biggie, no biggie.
Cut five.
No one knows the story of Paul.
of the weapons dealer, if you will.
And as the facts would tell them.
He was sentenced to 25 years.
He served 11 to 16 years.
I don't know.
I can't remember the exact number.
But in actuality, his weapons might have been used to kill Americans.
He has not killed Americans.
I don't even know what she's saying.
So she doesn't know his name.
She calls him Paul, which is, of course, the Marine's name.
His name is Victor Bout.
Doesn't know whether he was in prison for 25 years, six or 11 years.
Then he sold weapons that didn't kill Americans or maybe did kill Americans.
Let's not talk about that cretin that is Sheila Jackson Lee.
Talk about Putin's patsy, if you will, please, Paul.
Well, I do have to acknowledge that what she said is so outrageous.
Look, you can say Everybody's glad that Brittany Griner is home, right?
I mean, I'm sincerely happy for this woman that She didn't have to spend nine years in what was described as a Russian penal colony.
She didn't have to go to Putin's modern version of the gulag.
So look, I'm glad for her that she's home.
And Sheila Jackson Lee should say that too.
But at the same time, OK, you can be critical and look at this and not make excuses for who Victor Belt is.
The guy, 25 years, he's known as the merchant of death.
He sold arms to our enemies, to terrorists, and the fact that the Russians could play us like this, and that they could look at somebody like Britney Greiner—and by the way, this is my friend Bill Clark, who was Ronald Reagan's closest advisor, Seb.
I was his biographer.
I knew him really well.
And he used to say to me all the time, he would say, Paul, that's so Russian, right?
That's so Russian, right?
And you just, what they just did was so Russian.
I mean, just the idea that a Marine is rotting in prison and then you choose the wokest option possible.
It's like, I mean, yes, she's back home and congratulations, but it's like a parody, isn't it?
It is.
In fact, a friend of mine was on Al Jazeera with a Russian general, and they were talking about this, and he emailed me.
He said, the Russian general was literally laughing at us.
Laughing at us, right?
So the idea, I mean, put yourself in the minds of the Russians, right?
They already think that the United States and the West is depraved.
I think Putin even used the word satanic, right?
I mean, they think we're completely gone on cultural and moral issues.
So look at somebody like Biden and they think to themselves, oh, well, we, you know, we've got this WNBA star.
She's married to a woman, right?
She doesn't stand for the national anthem.
She protests the national anthem.
Boy, she's got to be a big hit with liberals in the United States, right?
And this is probably Biden's number one constituency.
In fact, Biden holds a press conference.
He's got Kamala Harris there.
And he's got Brittany Griner's wife there.
And the Russians think to themselves, you know, they're rubbing their hands and licking their chops.
All right, comrade.
Right.
Here's how we can get back Victor.
And so they spend a few months.
Brittany Griner is arrested in February.
And this goes on through the summer, they take her off to prison, they show her in handcuffs, and then they send her, and I think it was November, I believe, to the gulag, and at that point they're thinking, oh, now we can really get them, huh?
So they send her off, and Brittany Griner's lawyer's released a statement about how, hmm, Brittany's off to a penal colony, and the Russians are just like, only a matter of time now, baby.
Only a matter of time.
And what do they do?
Putin plays right into their hands.
And we give them a man who sold 10 million rounds of ammunition to the FARC, 800 surface-to-air missiles.
That's who we gave them.
A man who's already announced Already announced he's on his way to Ukraine to help the Russians and help out Putin.
By the way, a request to you, my newly minted editor American Spectator, and I see my conservatives buddies do this as well.
Britney Griner doesn't have a wife, okay?
As conservatives, we do not give in to the You know, the Orwellian, peace is war, strength is weakness.
No.
A woman can have a girlfriend, can have a lover, a partner.
A woman cannot have a wife.
A man can have a wife.
So let's hold the line, dear friends.
Yeah, yeah.
By the way, I got to tell you in my spectator piece, I put wife in quotes.
Good.
And I mean, I'm, you know, I'm a Roman Catholic and listen liberals, even Pope Francis agrees with me on this.
All right.
Okay.
I mean, she can be legally married.
So she legally in the United States has... I don't care about that.
I don't care about that.
A woman cannot have a wife.
We're talking to Paul Kengo.
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And then Tara Reid is on deck.
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wherever you are whatever you're doing stay on this channel video is crazy crazy mike's Sheila Jackson's statement is so outrageous.
Did you see the video that I'm talking about from Russia?
I did not.
No, I'm fascinated.
I'm going to send it to you now.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
They are.
They're literally laughing at us.
They really are.
Oh, it's just perfect for them.
How did I send that to you, Jeff?
Did I email it to you?
How did I send it to you?
Jeff, I'd like to do Newsmax if I could figure out a way to swing it.
I know you wanted me on Thursday.
Yes.
Can you do that?
I can't.
I can't do it on Thursday.
Is there another time you can record?
No, the only window is Thursday.
It's the same time.
It's just for seven minutes.
There's no way.
Are you speaking?
I'm supposed to be traveling back home in the car to watch my daughter dance to the Nutcracker.
I can't let her.
Nice.
All right.
Yeah, we'll work something else out.
All right.
What time do you record on Thursday?
12 to 1.
I could do 12.
Jeff, we can do that.
Yeah, we'll move it around.
We'll start with you.
Okay.
Okay, I can do that, Jeff.
All right.
All right.
I've just sent you, I've just texted you the tweet that has the two-minute Russian video with subtitles.
You've got to watch it.
You've got to watch it.
Maybe I'll write on it.
You should.
Yeah, I should.
Crazy.
Right.
I'm going to mention the Bella Dodd book, but first I'm going to do PhD.
Okay.
Yeah.
Thanks.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, of course.
So what are your, what's your vision for the spectator?
Yeah.
I mean, to continue to, to keep it what it is, but I, but I, one thing I want to do is I want to get more humor back in the magazine.
Yeah.
Because it was, I mean, I subscribed in the 80s when I was in college, and I'd go straight to the back of the magazine to the Current Wisdom section, which was by what they called assorted jackasses, and just read it and laugh.
You should get Clavin and Mike Knowles.
They're good.
They've got a sense of humor.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I agree with that.
In fact, I know Michael Knowles, and so I'd like to get Michael Knowles writing for us.
Yeah, and he's a good Michael Snyder.
He's a good sacral snapper.
And Andrew's very funny as well.
Yeah, it's a good idea.
Do they write for Daily Wire?
Do you know if they write?
I don't know if they write.
I mean, they do their podcasts.
Yeah, it's hard to get some of these guys who do podcasts and do talk radio to write.
Right.
Like, you're a writer.
But some other people, I just find out they're not really writers.
But I know Knowles is clearly a writer.
Yeah, I mean, he's written books.
Anton Klaven, I just don't know.
That's right.
Well, Clayton Klaven is a novelist.
Really?
I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, he's a screenwriter, very successful screenwriter, novelist.
He's written like 30 books.
Oh wow.
Okay, I'm gonna reach out to him.
I'm gonna send myself a note.
If you haven't read his autobiography, A Great Good Thing About His Conversion as a Jew to Christianity, you've got to read it.
It's one of the best books I've ever read.
Wow.
Yeah.
I don't know that I have an email address.
I'll connect you.
I'll connect you.
Okay, that'd be great.
That'd be great.
Stand by.
And if you could give us something even once a month.
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It's a fascinating story co-written by Mary Nichols.
Give us a quick introduction.
Everybody needs to read the book, Paul.
Who is this figure and why is her story so compelling?
It's an amazing story, Seb.
So, I see her as the female Whittaker Chambers.
I mean, she went up very high in the Communist Party, National Committee, 1930s, 1940s, and she was put in charge of infiltrating the Teachers' Union.
In fact, it was called the New York State Teachers' Union.
And she said this later when she left the party under oath to the Senate, to Congress.
By the way, her hearing name was the Falcon.
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The Senate guys called her the Falcon.
And her FBI file, which we got partially declassified, it's been, through a FOIA request, it's been secret since over 50 years.
She died in 1969.
1,281 pages, her file.
But she left the party and she said that out of 10,000 members of the New York Teachers Union, she had placed 1,500, 1,500 Communist Party members.
That's how much they had infiltrated the Teachers Union.
She had 500 New York teachers marching in the May Day Parade in 1936 in the city of New York.
So she was a master infiltrator.
And what's really scandalous is that she claims that she helped place over a thousand, exact words, over a thousand communist men, unquote, in Catholic seminaries in the 1930s.
We know from other people who testified before Congress that they had thoroughly, they being the Communist Party, had thoroughly penetrated the mainline denominations Episcopal Church, United Methodist Church, Presbyterian Church.
Bella Dodd talked about infiltrating Catholic seminaries.
Yeah, this is the most shocking, shocking part of the book, just the communist infiltration of the Catholic Church.
In the last minute we have, I've got to ask you the big question.
If this is true, if this is all documented, Then do we need, you know, a la Stanton Evans, a wholesale reappraisal of McCarthy and the question of, you know, communist penetration of American society, Paul?
Well, yes, certainly.
I mean, and Bella Dodd testified quite literally to this mass infiltration.
By the way, I should say on the positive side, she left the party in 1948.
They immediately smeared her.
The AP called her at her house, Seb, and said, we have a statement from the party.
It says here that you are Anti-Negro, anti-Puerto Rican, anti-Semitic, pro-fascist, pro-Nazi.
Seb, they've been doing this for a hundred years!
So you mean it's not new?
You mean you're being called a bigoted racist, you know, misogynist?
That's an old tactic!
Page one!
Page one!
What do we do to her?
Ah, here it is!
Racist!
Right?
This is what they've always done!
But she went back to the faith of her youth, the Catholic Church, through Bishop Fulton Sheen.
And thus begins a wonderful story of conversion and redemption.
So it's got a happy ending.
Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful story.
Let's put it up on the screen again.
It is the latest book co-authored by our guest, the new editor of American Spectator, along with Mary Nichols, The Devil and Bella Dodd, One Woman's Struggle Against Communism and Her Redemption.
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But somebody who connected with me amongst the What was it?
100,000 people we had on that call is a famous lady, a brave lady, and we are delighted to have her with us today.
Tara Reid, welcome to America First.
Thank you so much.
It's an honor to be on your show and your comments during Twitter spaces were so illuminating.
Thank you for Everything you said and the questions you asked.
That's too kind.
I've got a lot of kind comments from people who say, I get to the point, well, I don't have any other time.
I don't have time for anything else.
And I like to think that people listening don't want to waste time.
So that's why, you know, cut to the chase.
Let's cut to the chase when it comes to you.
You're famous for some allegations made in 2019 that have to do with what you did in the 1990s.
Do we have that photograph, Eric, of the What this lady was doing in the 1990s, it's a photograph of a very comely lady, and it has above her, under her photograph, a signature of the Sergeant at Arms.
The Sergeant of Arms of what, Tara?
Where were you working at that time?
Well, I was an intern for Leon Panetta, and then I became staff for Joseph Biden, and I was hired as a staffer with his office.
All right, so what happened?
And look, you know, this is afternoon radio.
There could be kids listening in the car.
But tell us what happened in 2019 and what occurred back in the 1990s when you were working for Senator Biden.
Very briefly, I was very excited to work at that time for what I thought would be the beginning of my political, you know, wonky career, as you would.
I wanted to work in Senate offices and then perhaps go on working in politics Myself.
So I was thrilled to work in the office at first and then there was sexual harassment and then a sexual assault.
And this is sexual assault by Senator Biden.
So physical violation of your body.
Yes, and I started a report with the U.S.
Senate to report the sexual harassment.
I was waiting to hear back from someone to report the assault.
My mother was very adamant that I report to the police.
I was frightened to do so because I was scared off by his staff.
And then later I did finally make a police report, which is on record, but he has never been investigated to date.
What happened when you reported it at least to the Senate authorities?
What was the response, Tara?
Nothing.
Silence.
Nothing.
In fact, from U.S.
Senate office, Joe Biden's office, they forced me to resign.
My duties were stripped.
I was put in a room.
I was told I wasn't a good fit.
And I was no longer allowed to supervise interns.
I was no longer allowed to go to hearings or take notes.
I was to even tell my immediate supervisor if I went to the restroom or walked anywhere.
And I was forced to resign and to look.
They said my job from that point on was to look for a job and to get out.
I wasn't hired by anyone by the hill after that.
And then when you later reported it to the police, what were the conclusions of that report?
It was outside the jurisdiction, the statute of limitations.
However, they took the report and that's all I know.
I don't know if my mother independently made a police report.
So what happened in 2019?
She was so adamant that I do.
But she did call into the Larry King show in 1993.
And I had told some other staffers what had happened to me that I was close to in other offices and a couple of close friends and a family member.
So there's been some contemporaneous witnesses as well. - So what happened in 2019?
How did you get into the limelight and what was the motivation then? - I saw seven other women come forward about Joe Biden's inappropriate behavior.
And up to that time, I had been silent publicly, had tried privately to resolve this, and it never was.
But I really saw Lucy Flores, a young politician in Nevada, get torn to pieces when she tried to talk about being uncomfortable by his behavior.
And it prompted me to come forward.
My daughter was an adult.
I knew I was going to, you know, experience some difficulties in You know, I didn't have PR person.
I didn't have a lawyer.
I just came forward with the truth.
And unfortunately, I went to Time's Up, which Time's Up was supposed to protect people who come forward about powerful men.
Anita Dunn, Hilary Rosen, and some others were already on Joe Biden's payroll.
And I didn't know it.
They didn't tell me.
And it was like a lamb to the slaughter.
All right, we need to have a longer discussion with you.
We'd like to get you back for a longer discussion.
But in the minute we have left with you, first, let's put up this lady's book.
Very important.
Everybody needs to read it right now.
It's left out when the truth doesn't fit in.
You've got to listen to her podcast, The Politics of Survival.
You can listen to a new episode tonight.
But in the last 60 seconds we've got left, Tara, What do you say to those people who think, oh, he's just a sweet old man.
He's like your grandpa.
Tell us the truth about Joe Biden.
He has weaponized the DOJ and the CIA to come after me.
My Twitter account was taken under sealed warrants in 2020.
This could happen to any citizen trying to come forward or whistleblow.
We need to pay attention because the Democratic Party and Joe Biden's administration is corrupt.
We need to know it.
We need to bring the truth.
Elon Musk has done a good job of shining the truth and you are doing that with your show.
So please keep bringing people on like myself so we can let citizens know what's going on.
Just listen to what that lady just said.
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Welcome back to a very special Christmas edition of Making Movies Great Again.
Thank you, sir.
Yes, it is a Christmas edition.
I can't wait to get into Die Hard.
Die Hard, indeed.
A movie which originally should have starred who, Chris?
Oh, Old Blue Eyes.
Frank Sinatra.
Old Blue Eyes.
What a strange, strange story that we have.
The series of detective novels by Roderick Thorpe.
One of them was made into a movie with Frank Sinatra, and there was supposed to be a sequel.
But he was getting a little bit long in the tooth.
So instead of bringing Old Blue Eyes back to be the New York cop who saves Nakatomi Towers, We have Bruce Willis, a guy who I fell in love with in the moonlighting comedy detective show.
Let's talk about Bruce Willis and what he brings to this movie.
And also, is it fair to say that this is a new kind of genre that Bruce brought us?
A new kind of genre with Die Hard?
A new kind of vulnerable lead character?
Oh yeah.
I mean, I assume that you've seen the Netflix documentary, The Movies That Made Us?
Yes.
Oh, it's beautiful.
If you haven't seen that, that is definitely worth watching.
Basically every movie on there, their little documentaries are excellent.
But they're talking about, in that documentary, John McTernan and the cinematographer, they were trying to create like a new kind of action film.
I don't think people really remember that in the 1980s a lot of action film stories were very simple and a bit confusing.
It was just lots of action, it wasn't particularly well shot, lots of explosions, lots of gunshots, and not the best stories.
Die Hard had an excellent plot and it was meticulously crafted and there were moments of You know, there were lows, there were highs.
It was actually a really high quality picture.
And that was unusual for an action film at the time.
But not only that, if you watch this movie.
So I just got back from my trip to Israel with 350 of our listeners.
Absolutely incredible.
Got on the plane, on a plane for 11 hours there, 12 hours back.
They had like 400 movies to choose from.
And they had Die Hard.
So what did I do?
Of course, I watched Die Hard on the plane.
And the thing that strikes you Is it's tight.
Even in great movies, there's often a bit in the middle or somewhere in the second act that gets a little flabby, a piece that you can kind of miss and it doesn't change the story.
Here, Chris, there's no flab, is there?
No, no.
It was a beautiful script.
And hilariously, they were writing the script as they were shooting, but somehow just things kind of magically came together.
It was this perfectly, beautifully written script.
And I actually think John McTiernan was the perfect guy to bring in for this, because I realized this while watching last night.
He had just come off of Predator.
Yes.
And if you think about it this way, Die Hard is an inversion of Predator.
In Predator, you had the team of heroes fighting the one character and trying to survive.
In this one, you have the hero fighting a team of villains and trying to survive.
In some ways, John McClane is the Predator in this movie, and he's just picking the guys off one by one, but this time we're on the Predator side because he's the good guy.
Yeah, that's a nice way of putting it.
I think you might be hinting at the next movie we have to do.
But MacTiernan is just superb, whether it's The Hunt for Red October, whether it's Predator or this.
Just tight, tight movie.
Always enjoyable.
This is a movie that you can watch again and again and again, correct?
Yeah, I think because of the story.
I think it's a very well-written script.
It's a good high concept.
It's not just a bunch of explosions without much going on.
And then also, Bruce Willis was a revelation at the time.
I mean, he really was a charismatic actor.
My buddy, Kurt, brought this to my attention once.
He's actually a good actor, which is kind of unusual for action heroes.
Like, you know, I think Schwarzenegger had to sort of figure out how to act over the course of his career, whereas Bruce Willis was just he was a great actor to begin with.
I mean, he outclasses most other action hero actors.
But it's not just, you know, action hero, good actor.
His comedy timing, and that's why Moonlighting is so much fun.
This movie has so many amazing comedy lines.
I'm thinking of You know, um, I've got a whole list here of things that just catch you.
You're in the middle of this, but, you know, yellow dye number five from the sergeant, or Hans Booby when, you know, Ellis is talking to the guy who's just about to kill him, you know, or the geek, the black geek right there who's breaking into the vault.
And when they shoot the armored personnel carrier, And he says, and the quarterback is toast!
I mean, that's the kind of humor you don't usually get in action movies, right?
Yeah, the Asian dude's watching the door and he figures out, oh, I'm at a candy stand.
Let's go grab some of that.
Do you know who that Asian dude is?
You mean what other movies is he in?
I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I know he's in like everything from the 80s.
Yeah, he is the ninja warrior in every action movie.
He's like the martial artist.
He's the B-ranking guy whose name you never know, but you recognize him because of the long hair.
And if he's not holding a gun, he's holding some Chinese sword.
So let's talk about the cast.
Bruce Willis, timing, new kind of action hero.
Talk about some of the other leads here.
Let's talk about Bonnie Bedelia.
Let's talk about Alan Rickman.
Yeah, oh my goodness.
You know, I always talk about films and televisions as places where you want to live, right?
Do you want to live in that world?
And by the time I got done watching this film, I was a kid again.
I wanted to be Bruce Willis.
I wanted to be at Nakatomi.
And the funny thing is, even the Ellis, the douchey guy in the office, who Frankly, he has a redemption moment.
He sacrifices himself, right?
He doesn't tell Hans Gruber about John McClane's wife.
He never breaks the script.
He never says, I'm lying, don't shoot me.
Yes.
So good man.
Good man.
Actually in the end, even though he's like, you know, doing coke the whole time, every, every shot that passes him, he's doing coke.
He's a real, I actually think he's the least believable character.
And even as a kid, I thought so, but he's still a bit of fun because if you, if you're going to have a douche douchey guy in the office, you want him because he's a character and everybody in this project.
To some degree or another, is he kind of a fun, interesting character to be around.
You want these people to – I mean, obviously, you wouldn't want sociopathic people to be your friends.
But a lot of the characters, especially like Carl Winslow, the cop.
His name is Carl Winslow in Family Matters.
Sergeant Al.
I mean, that guy.
You want that guy as your best friend.
You know what I mean?
I mean, like a lot of these characters, the limo driver, what a fun guy.
So – and back then they weren't casting these people because they were black and that was woke or something like that.
They were just casting these guys because they were right for the role, they were funny, they were charming, they were interesting folks.
And I want to be friends with all these guys and I want to live in the movie Die Hard for more than two hours.
I have heard you say this before and it's such a superb way of looking at culture, looking at, you know, the artifice of storytelling.
Do you want to live in that world?
So much, the majority of what we witness today Creates worlds that we wouldn't want to live in for a nanosecond.
When you watch a movie like this, you say, wow, I'm feeling nostalgic for that world.
We're talking Die Hard.
Is it a Christmas movie?
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I am the man who has been told time and time again for over a decade that I should be the next Bond villain.
I'm ready.
I can do it in a German accent.
I can do it in a French accent.
Yeah, whatever you wish, I can do it.
Let's talk about the Brit, the late, great Alan Rickman, as Hans Gruber, the German terrorist, Chris.
Yeah, I mean, you can tell early on he's trying to do a little bit of a German accent.
Yes.
And, you know, I think the subtlety of it, because back then nobody knew who this actor was.
Right!
He was a kind of nobody.
And he has an unusual way of speaking anyway.
So just that light touch of a German accent at the time, I think everyone could say, all right, that guy is German or he's some kind of European.
It's unclear.
The way he talks is very strange.
Um, but really what, uh, you know, what's interesting about actors, some people will say, or they used to say that, well, these people get typecast.
A lot of characters, they play the same role over and over and over again.
But at the end of the day, that's kind of what works for movies.
You want someone who has a unique character, who maybe speaks in an interesting way, but then he just has that level of charisma because he is such a unique person.
He does have such a unique voice, and he does inspire Ah, and a little bit of fear.
He's a little scary, just his normal speaking voice is a little terrifying.
And he did such a beautiful job in that movie, especially putting on the American accent in this scene.
Yeah, so let me, let me, let's do a little bit, let's be judgmental here.
I suffered for six years learning German in school in England.
I speak it fluently.
When he speaks German to the terrorists, it's impeccable.
Okay?
So his actual German is impeccable.
I'm not born in America.
My British accent is kind of frayed at the edges after 14 years as a dyed-in-the-wool, naturally born American.
How's his American accent, Chris?
Let's be accurate here.
The problem for me is that I know how he sounds.
I'm not coming in fresh, not knowing who he is.
So it sounds terrible to me.
To me, there's something off.
It gets better, but the, oh no, you're one of them!
It just doesn't sound American.
No, and it may have something to do with how the audio was recorded back then.
It was, there is something stylized about how the audio was recorded in 80s films.
Um, and so it doesn't, it definitely does not sound right.
But again, I do think there's something about, I know who this actor is, right?
And so I know what his voice is supposed to sound like.
And it does sound a little bit, Oh man, you're one of them.
Okay, what about the humor though?
What about the humor?
His delivery, that line when he gets in the elevator with Takagi and he talks about, nice suit, John Phillips of London.
I have two myself and I do believe Arafat shops there as well.
I mean, what riding?
What delivery?
Yeah, I mean, that's the beauty of excellent casting.
If you can bring people, and that's one thing I noticed while I was watching this movie is like, The way everyone acts is just a little bit cavalier and very typical for the 1980s.
What do you mean by that?
Well, people didn't seem to take everything so damn seriously.
In movies and television today there is this kind of reverence sometimes because everything's like a remake or a reboot or a sequel or you know there's always something and nobody Nobody's very naturalistic in Hollywood anymore.
There doesn't tend to be this natural... In Star Wars, I noticed this too.
In the very original Star Wars movie, there's this moment where C-3PO calls Luke, Sir Luke.
And he kind of laughs and he goes, just Luke, you know?
And, uh, and that sort of moment of like, just the kind of throwing lines away, cavalier, acting naturally, reacting naturally.
Everything in this movie, except for Ellis, who is over the top douchey all the time, but everybody else in this film, they deliver lines that aren't necessarily very easy to deliver, but with this sort of ease and naturalness where you really believe that they're the character and they're delivering those lines.
What about the hairdos?
Even the men, even the men had these massive... The security guard who gets killed in the beginning, I mean, his hair is as big as his shoulder pads!
Well, I mean, it is an 80s film.
I mean, you know what's interesting about that, though, is there isn't very many signifiers of the 80s in this film compared to many films of the 80s.
You know, there are a lot of films where you'd watch the film and you'd say, that is very 80s.
But even like the score, the way that the Ninth Symphony was... Like, I love the Ninth Symphony.
I don't really like scores or musical, classical pieces that I love to be used in films, but it was just used so well in this movie, and it makes it really timeless.
I mean, there's so much of this movie that's timeless.
A lot of the outfits even, like what John McClane's wearing a lot of times in this film, you can see somebody wearing it today.
Yeah, totally.
Hopefully with less blood on it.
Now, when it comes to the cast, there's a lot of people that we'll see from elsewhere.
There's one police officer who's the good guy with the headset who's helping Al out.
Do you remember this character?
I think I sent a picture of this to Eric.
There's a police officer who's standing behind Sergeant Al.
And I want to know if you recognize him from any other movie.
So we're going to put it up on the screen.
He's the decent guy, can't stand the lieutenant.
Who has been, you know, trying to take control from Al, thinks that our character, McClane, is one of the terrorists.
Do we have that image, Eric?
Can we put it up on the screen?
The guy with the headset, do you recognize him?
I do not.
I failed the test.
Well, he had far less hair in other movies.
That is a waiter that John McTiernan was impressed with in L.A.
and had him in basically every movie.
He is the XO to Scott Glenn in The Hunt for Red October.
Wow.
Seriously, seriously.
And then one more.
Have you got the image I just sent you, Eric?
Do you recognize this one heavy, really, really ugly German in the elevator behind Hans Gruber?
That is Wilhelm from Hamburg.
He was none other than the evil, evil Ghostbusters 2 villain.
That's amazing, that's amazing.
Wasn't he like some kind of famous... Wrestler!
Wrestler or Olympian or something?
Yes, he was a wrestler, he was a criminal, he was busted for all kinds of stuff, dealing steroids and whatever, but he ended up as Viggo!
Viggo the Invincible in Ghostbusters 2 and he was one of the heavies rolling around that rocket launch.
Alright, we're having far too much fun, I'm getting into the weeds already, but it's a great movie.
Is it a Christmas movie?
I don't know.
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All right, I'm talking too much.
Chris Coles, what would you like to say about Die Hard?
Well, OK.
I would say that this, a lot of people think this is the greatest action movie of all time.
And it's really hard to argue against that.
You sound like you have a problem with that statement.
Let's just say it.
It's the greatest one.
I think that, I think it is.
I think it's the greatest action film of all time.
It's, there are so many action films that followed this formula, right?
Like there's a guy trapped in a specific, Space, there's a team of villains, and he's got to stop the villains.
One thing, you know, McTiernan had it right.
Originally, these characters were supposed to be terrorists.
He said, nobody likes a terrorist.
Everybody loves a bank robber.
He's like, let's make... And you know what the funny thing is?
It's a heist movie.
Yeah.
The funny thing is, you kind of a little bit root for the bad guys.
Because you want to know what they're doing.
You're not sure what they're doing at first.
You don't know how they're going to escape the building.
You don't know what they actually want.
They're saying that they're terrorists, but they really don't care about whatever it is that they're demanding as terrorist stuff.
So you know something else is going on, but you're not sure.
Then you find out they're stealing 600 million dollars and you're like, yeah, that's a good amount of money.
OK, that makes sense.
I believe it.
And they're kind of made fun of, actually.
John McClane's wife makes fun of them as like petty thieves.
And he turns and he goes, I am an excellent thief.
I'm not a petty thief.
I'm an excellent thief.
And, you know, there are so many perfect elements that come together, so many.
You know, it was it was So many people's first movie, you know, and they were all great actors.
Even the cop was such a perfect character.
Like, like I said, I want to be that guy's friend.
Just so well cast, so well produced, so well written.
Everything was just so perfect.
It's like, they always say, like, catching lightning in a bottle.
This is one of those instances.
There are a few other films like Lethal Weapon that did this, but... And there's something here that also, despite the, you know, supercharged machismo of the 80s, there are also moments here, especially the relationship between Al Powell, Sergeant Powell, and McClain, where the local lieutenant is giving him crap, And we have that moment where he says, me and the guys down here love you.
And he says that to McClane on the radio.
That's, that's not your average kind of, uh, 80s action hero.
No, there's like this beautiful brotherhood going on.
And that's the thing, like when they said they were going to try to change the action film, I think part of what they were doing was they were, and I do this with my writing a lot.
I'll find cliches that exist in cinema.
And I'll try to flip those clichés, and instead of creating the cliché outcome from the cliché setup, I'll put in the cliché setup, but instead I'll drive it toward a more natural action.
So the audience is expecting that, and we forget because we forget what the clichés were in the 1980s back when this film was made, because this film established a lot of the stuff that we watch now.
Right.
But back then, what they would do is they'd go, okay, here's the cliche that people expect.
Let's put this into the film.
But instead of having it resolve itself with a cliche, we're going to have it resolve itself with something more naturalistic.
And so everything about this film, not everything, but a lot of the things that happen in this film are much more natural than what would have happened with other 80s action films of the day.
And to me, that's just good writing.
That's just well thought out, innovative, brilliant, naturalistic writing.
And you know how about Robert Davi, our good friend Robert Davi?
Oh my gosh, we got a hat tip to Robert Davi.
Johnson and Johnson, no relation.
I mean, just the humor.
Just like we're back in Nam!
You know?
Yeah, when I was in high school.
I mean, just absolutely classic.
Yeah, yeah, and I forgot that he died in this movie, but like... I know!
I did too!
I was watching the movie, and then the building explodes, and this is perhaps the most crass line in the whole film, and the deputy chief says, I guess we need more G-Men or something.
Yeah, I guess we need some more FBI agents.
And it's a brutal death.
They're in the helicopter, that famous helicopter explosion.
Yeah, that was an unusual moment that I had.
Oh, yes, got to show the scene here of the McClane under the table.
Next time, don't hesitate when you see somebody need to shoot them.
Thanks for the advice, pal.
We're going to talk about the guns in the movies because it's so central.
Some iconic, iconic weapons.
We'll have fun with that.
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For me, there's a sleeper scene in the movie that, um, We'll probably fly past most people because they don't live in the swamp, they haven't done TV interviews, and they don't do national security.
But it's when the expert on terrorism, which is what I used to be, is asked to explain what's going on in Nakatomi Tower, and...
It's the author of the book, Hostage Terrorist, Terrorist Hostage.
And it's just such a, it's like a dagger through the heart of the pompous asses we see every day on television.
And also the host who says, Finland, Stockholm, no, Sweden.
I mean, the subtlety of the humor, the bursting of the bubble of these fake experts.
The scene lasts maybe 30 seconds, Chris, but it's another slice of just how incredibly good the writing is.
Yeah, and actually this was a theme that goes through the entire film of the authorities don't actually know what they're doing.
They speak with a lot of authority, they act like they know what they're doing, but everything they do just makes everything worse, right?
So the head of the police department in Los Angeles, he's unreasonably stubborn about everything, right?
So the cop is sitting there going, "Oh, we got a guy in there." He's like, "How do we know that that's one of our guys?
Maybe that's one of them and they're just messing with you.
You're an idiot." And it's just like, "All right, there's no reason for you to be this unreasonable." But it creates this tension and it's the kind of thing that Shakespeare would do, right?
Shakespeare would mock the authority, and he would celebrate with the regular people, and that's what John McClane is.
John McClane is one of us.
He's a regular guy.
This cop, Carl Winslow from Family Matters.
He's a regular guy.
He's like us.
So we relate to these characters.
We do not relate to the terrorists or to the bank robbers because they're these effete Europeans.
We don't relate to the authority because they're our bosses in real life.
And this is what John McTiernan was doing.
He was going, OK, we are the regular people.
They are the other.
They're the people who are the pompous people who think they know what they're doing and they keep messing everything up.
It's the it's the regular Joes.
We're the guys who know what's up.
And it was kind of a celebration of regular guys.
Which I love.
I think that's such a crucial point.
I hadn't thought of it like that, but when you add Sgt.
Al, you add up together, you know, it's real individuals.
It's not superheroes.
It's not, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger and his, you know, massive physique.
It's just a New York cop who's Gonna try and see his family at Christmas and gets caught into this maelstrom.
Let's talk about some of these effete European villains and their strange haircuts.
We have Alex Gudunov.
We have the guy with the long hair who is, you know, the protagonist.
Along with the lead, the German terrorist, Alan Rickman, who made a couple of guns famous.
And I just want to maybe flex a bit here because as a kid These guns were made really famous.
McLean made the Beretta Model 92 famous, the handgun he carries through.
The terrorists have all their MP5s, the classic SAS machine gun.
But we have Alex Gudunov and we have Hans Gruber with a couple of iconic weapons.
Let's show me with the first one, a gun I dreamt of having for years that I now own because the Difference between boys and men is the price of their toys and nothing else.
This is the Austrian Steyr AUG assault rifle, the first generally issued bullpup assault rifle.
I now own one.
This is the bad guy with the long blonde hair's iconic weapon.
Then we have Hans Gruber, another holy grail weapon that I finally got my hands on.
The original factory nickel-plated P7M13, a unique weapon, the only weapon that cocks when you squeeze it.
It's an absolute pinnacle of German engineering.
Show the next copy.
So these two weapons, the H&K P7M13 and the Steyr AUG, kind of classic 80s guns that every boy should own once they grow up.
Don't you agree?
Oh I think I now I want them.
Good!
I want to go around to some kind of like air vent and just poke.
Yes!
There you go!
Yeah I mean look when that come when that comes into into shot in this very scene that we're watching now when that comes into shot that is a harrowing moment because you don't expect it you don't actually.
What about the fight scene Chris?
What an amazing fight scene.
This guy apparently was like uh A world-class ballerina?
Uh-huh.
Like a ballet artist?
So the guy has an incredible physicality.
And, uh, from what I remember from the documentary that I watched, they, uh, they just kind of, like, went around this office building.
It's like a real office building.
They weren't on a soundstage.
And they were like... But you know what the building was, right?
The, uh... Yeah, it was the Fox building.
It was, and I think it was still being constructed.
I think they hadn't moved in to the Fox building, and McTiernan managed to convince them, you don't mind if we blow it up for, like, six months and film Die Hard.
And they actually agreed!
Yeah, and I had a good buddy, when I first moved to LA, this is probably like 2005, and we're driving through LA, and my buddy's Australian guy, he's like, uh, stop the car!
We gotta go to that building right there!
And I'm like, what?
He's like, when I was a little boy, I had this poster on my wall, Nakatomi Plaza, that's it right there, pull in!
And so I'm like, alright, so we both pull in, the security guard comes out, He's like, can I help you guys?
And my buddy's just like, this is this is from Die Hard, right?
The guy's like, yeah, this is from Die Hard.
He like walked us around the whole building.
And yeah, it's right down there.
And I've actually worked at Fox quite a quite a bit when I was doing like background acting and stand in work and all that kind of stuff.
And I pass by it all the time.
It's just right down Century City.
Century City, absolutely.
Not too bad, that Australian accent.
I'll give you a little bit of a help with that my friend, but it's not too bad.
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All right, having heard you divulge something before we started the show to my team, I am slightly trepidatious of the answer to this next question with which we have been taunting our three million listeners for the last half an hour.
Die Hard is, of course, a Christmas movie, is it not, Chris Colen?
Absolutely not.
What?! !
How dare you!
This friendship is in danger right now.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Okay, look, Die Hard is probably the best action film ever made.
It's set during Christmas.
There is nothing else Christmassy about it.
There's nothing Christmas-y about it.
It's set at that time of the year.
Come on!
Wanted to be reunited with your family at Christmas using happy Christmas packaging tape to put the gun on your back to save the damsel in distress?
That's Christmas!
You're right, you're right.
I usually do strap a gun to my back using Christmas packing tape every year, but that's just one of those weird things I do on the weekend.
Well, you know, it's a strange California thing.
It's one of the greatest movies ever made.
It's set during Christmas.
That's the excuse to get him there.
I think in the original novel, because Frank Sinatra commissioned that novel, I believe, because he wanted to do a sequel to that film, The Detective.
And I think in the novel it is Christmas.
I think that's why it's there.
And that was the excuse, and they never changed it.
But I really can't think of much about that movie that's Christmassy.
Maybe the Christmas party.
What's interesting about that Christmas party, I think, is that people don't remember in the 80s, anything corporate, anything like big city, cosmopolitan, I think was considered very alien to most people.
We didn't have the internet.
It's not like most people lived in regular America.
So if you saw something that cosmopolitan in a film, it was not normal.
It was this sort of elevated thing with these weird people that you didn't recognize from your real life.
And so that Christmas party where John McClane feels totally out of place and like some dudes kissing him and stuff like that.
And he's just like, man, California, you know?
That is us in the 80s.
That is every regular American in the 80s going, yeah, I would feel exactly the same way at that party.
All right.
Sadly, we're out of time.
Last thoughts, last final thoughts.
I'll share mine first.
First, I want to hat tip again to Robert Darvey.
What a consummate actor there.
The humor is superb.
Let's salute the late, great Alan Rickman, who brought so much pleasure to so many people.
And then lastly, Sadly, a man who has his struggle now with his medical condition, Bruce Willis.
Bruce, you entertain so many of us.
You maintain that kind of average Joe thing throughout all of your movies.
Thank you for what you've done, and thank you for creating, really, a new genre.
Oh, and by the way, one thing you just reminded me, Eric, let's put that still up, the first still I sent you.
Do you know why Alan Rickman's face looks the way it does?
You saw the making of, right?
I do know, yeah.
Why don't you say it?
McTiernan lied about when he was going to drop him onto the mattress.
He said, I will drop you out after the count of three and he counted to two and dropped him and Rickman wasn't ready.
So that, that fear, that absolute fear on his face is real.
I just wanted to share that.
Final thoughts, Chris?
I would, I would hate to be that actor in that moment.
You know, I love Bruce Willis.
Bruce Willis consistently says in interviews that acting is easy.
And, you know, he just goes in, reads his lines, you know, acts normal.
And then they put it and they print it and everything.
And I think that's how acting should be.
I think a lot of times Hollywood kind of gets all up their own, you know, whatever about, oh, you know, I'm an actor.
And he's just like.
Whatever.
Welcome to the party, pal.
I'm just gonna say my lines and get my paycheck and get out of here.
And that sort of cavalier attitude, I think, translates to screen.
And he's just so charismatic.
And yeah, this film is probably, you know, one of the best films ever made.
And I would certainly consider it, if not one of the best, you know, if not the best, certainly one of the best action films of all time.
Next movie.
It's my choice.
It's my choice, right?
It's your choice.
You gotta choose whatever you want, man.
Well, I think you teed it out for me perfectly.
Let's stay with Mr. McTin.
Let's stay with the 80s.
Let's do Predator.
Do you concur?
We'll have to get to the chopper, but I think we can do it.
Yippee-ki-yay, my friend.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, have a very Merry Christmas, but keep your head on a swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up, never give in.
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