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Dec. 9, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	He's paying the price for that now.
	Brittany Greiner is not.
	She's got very different politics.
	Brittany Greiner despises the United States.
	She's been very vocal about that.
	This country is so repellent and immoral that two years ago she said, quote, I honestly feel we should not play the national anthem during our basketball season.
	She hates the country so much, she doesn't want to hear its anthem.
	That's the kind of position that gets you rewarded by Joe Biden.
	Hate America?
	Perfect!
	We'll free the guy who sold weapons to drug cartels to get you out early.
	That's what your government did yesterday.
	All Americans should be gotten out of hell holes.
	Greetings, my friends.
	It's Friday.
	It's America First.
	Your host, Sebastian Gorka.
	Second Amendment Friday.
	We should try and rescue all Americans from stinking hell holes.
	But there is something to be politically analyzed here.
	When the person who avowedly hates America Who is a paragon of the divisive identity politics of this nation who is celebrated.
	In fact, Van Jones said on CNN yesterday that Britney Greiner is America because she's black and lesbian.
	I'm not sure what America Van Jones lives in as far as I'm concerned.
	America isn't defined by homosexuality and skin color would be a very... I don't think any country is defined by homosexuality and skin color.
	That would be a very perverse nation to live in.
	But the fact that that individual who smuggled drugs into Russia was freed at the expense of releasing the most dangerous arms dealer in the world, a man who threatened the lives of Americans and who will do so again,
	In the face of releasing a multiple combat veteran, a Marine, who isn't homosexual as far as I know, who's most definitely white, and that we now know is a Trump supporter, tells you everything you need to know.
	We were promised unity.
	We were promised that this Commander-in-Chief would bring us all back together!
	He's dividing us more, more and more every day.
	And he's doing so with the acquiescence and the collusion of Silicon Valley.
	Yesterday, part two of the so-called Twitter files was dropped by a left-wing journalist who is working with Elon Musk, the new owner of Twitter.
	And we now know that what was said Well, let's just, let's put it in the words of my buddy Dan Bongino, who is a subject of the new Twitter files drop, who was, who was shadow banned, who was censored at the request of political forces by one of the most important platforms in the world.
	I don't know if he watches this network, and I have no idea.
	I don't know Elon Musk.
	I never met him.
	But sincerely and candidly, from the bottom of my heart, I can't thank you enough.
	You have done an enormous service.
	Now forget about America.
	This is a global issue.
	We got the EU trying to censor Twitter right now.
	What you have done to change the history of big tech and free speech around the world is an enormous He has done an enormous service for freedom.
	may lose money.
	I don't think he will.
	He's a very entrepreneurial gal, probably fixed Twitter, but that he may lose billions over this effort.
	Listen, I love the guy or hate the guy.
	I love his politics or hate his politics.
	This guy did an enormous service for freedom.
	He has done an enormous service for freedom.
	I was waiting for him to actually provide us some smoking guns, and he has.
	Let's put up the evidence.
	These are internal screenshots from Twitter that were part of the drop.
	They refer to the accounts of people like Dan Boncino, a conservative.
	Concerned people like my Salem colleague Charlie Kirk.
	This is a tab inside Twitter.
	A tab that says do not amplify.
	Meaning do not let people see what this person is posting on their Twitter account.
	Let's show another one of these tabs inside Twitter.
	Search blacklist.
	There's an internal tool in Twitter to blacklist anyone they don't like.
	So when you go into Twitter's search box and you type in Sebastian Gawker or Dan Bongino or Charlie Kirk or Libs of TikTok or Tucker Carlson, if they've pressed the search blacklist tab, then you won't find them.
	They will be suppressed.
	Now, why is this an issue?
	Well, listen to what we were told under oath by the former CEO of Twitter, Jack Dorsey, Mr. Rasputin, who was asked a very, very simple question on the floor of Congress.
	I want to start by making something very clear.
	We don't consider political viewpoints, perspectives, or party affiliation in any of our policies or enforcement decisions.
	Period.
	Impartiality is our guiding principle.
	Let me explain why.
	We believe many people use Twitter as a digital public square.
	They gather from all around the world to see what's happening and have a conversation about what they see.
	Twitter cannot rightly serve as a public square if it's constructed around the personal opinions of its makers.
	We believe a key driver of a thriving public square is the fundamental human right of freedom of opinion and expression.
	That's perjury.
	The technical term for that is perjury.
	Lying under oath.
	Inside Twitter, there was a secret group.
	I'm reading now from the post-millennial Libby Emmons.
	This is a direct quote.
	This secret group included the Head of Legal Policy and Trust Vijaya Gadde, the Global Head of Trust and Safety, I mean what Orwellian terms!
	The Global Head of Trust and Safety, Yowel Roth, and Jack Dorsey, Twitter CEO, And after Dorsey left, the new CEO, Parag Agrawal, a secret group that shadow-banned political voices that did not comport with their ideology or their political identity.
	It's one thing, we're a free country, the fact that more than 92% of Twitter employees Our Democrats, and on public records, have donated to Democrat candidates.
	That's absolutely their right.
	But if that political identity led to secret groups being created to crush the views of those who aren't Democrats, well, let me assure you of one thing.
	As the child of those who escaped Communist oppression, You need to censor those who disagree with the elite.
	The first thing you do when you take over a country in the olden days is you take over the ministries, you take over the police, you take over the radio headquarters.
	That's what happened across the world where communists took power.
	Today it's a little different.
	Today you have to take over The social media hubs of information.
	As my good friend Chris Plant says, you must obtain information dominance.
	Whatever happens, and I will be on a Twitter spaces to discuss all of this six o'clock tomorrow, Saturday, six o'clock Eastern.
	You can find the invitation at the top of my Twitter feed.
	Anybody can join.
	Anybody can ask a question.
	If the hosts see you raise your hand electronically, whatever happens, Elon Musk?
	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios.
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	Thank you.
	Like, oh man, this is really good.
	Good, that's what we like to hear.
	Wow, this is super entertaining.
	I hope you're not the only one.
	I don't want to listen to me, I want to listen to Seb.
	Well, now they're gonna listen to both of us.
	How's that?
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	Can we put it up?
	Seb Gawker, yes.
	Yes, they book a store.
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	Gooby.
	Coming with the kids.
	Yeah, the Christmas bundle!
	Look at that.
	Look at that.
	um What should we call that monologue?
	Elon Musk delivers.
	That's good.
	Do you wear baseball hats?
	You wear baseball hats.
	I do, I love baseball caps.
	All right, we'll let you pick one.
	Live on air, how's that?
	Uh, yeah.
	What's that phrase?
	Save it for radio, right, Jeff?
	Save it for the radio.
	Save it for radio.
	Yeah, it sounds cool.
	We've got to talk Victor Bout, okay?
	Victor?
	Bout.
	The arms guy.
	Sure, yeah.
	Has anyone talked about how you would view this deal from Putin's perspective?
	No.
	No, do that.
	Let's do that.
	I had a cigar at 11 o'clock this morning.
	It was good.
	Do you do morning cigars, Jeff?
	No, but when you're not on the golf course.
	Have I seen you since I talked to Orban?
	Oh, right.
	What?
	Have I seen you since I talked to Orban?
	Yes, we discussed it, you shared it last time.
	And then did you travel after that?
	Oh, yeah, I don't think we talked, because I went to the Munich Security Strategic Forum.
	Is that the Verkunde?
	That's the Verkunde.
	Schlaus-Emu or something?
	Okay.
	How was it?
	I'll tell you off the air.
	Okay.
	You don't mind being on with Kirk if we can get him on?
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	Yeah, yeah, I love that, yeah.
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	All right, let's listen to the man who has disgraced the uniform of the U.S. nationals.
	Navy.
	Explain why we gave away the most dangerous man in the world for a pot-headed lesbian basketball player.
	Cut five!
	Was this a decision the president had to make between whether it was going to be Brittany Griner who got out for Victor Boot or Paul Whelan?
	There was only one choice, and the only, uh, the only person that they were willing to treat for, with respect to Mr. Boot, was Brittany Griner.
	They put Paul Whelan in a different category.
	They treat him separately, they treat him, uh, differently.
	Yeah, did Putin put that Marine in a separate category or did you because he's a Trump voter and he's actually not gay?
	That's the question I have.
	We are fortunate to have in studio, he's super flexible, he's coming early because we've got Kyle Rittenhouse next hour.
	He's our Friday National Security Expert, Vice President of the Heritage Foundation.
	Jim Carufano, you mentioned something fascinating in the break.
	How does Putin look at all of this deal?
	So first things first, we want all Americans out of, you know, gulags, right?
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, and I will say that I'm always, you know, a little reluctant to criticize anything on these deals because there is always, you don't know what's going on in the back room.
	You don't know what third parties are doing.
	You don't know the backstory.
	Literally every one of these deals, Worthy of a novel, right?
	That Tom Clancy could write.
	So when you criticize people's choices, you know, I think without evidence you have to be a little rough.
	You don't have all the information.
	But we'll put that aside and we'll talk about things that we can talk about.
	So for example, what does this deal look like from Vladimir Putin's perspective?
	So Gavin, you had like the Godfather, you know, part one, sitting in the chair petting your cat.
	And the answer is, is what am I telling my friends here?
	Look at what I'm willing to do.
	I take care of my friends.
	You're in prison?
	You work for me?
	You know, you murder, lie, kill for me?
	I'll get you out.
	I take care of my friends.
	You know, conversely, I don't like you?
	Maybe the Americans pick you up.
	Maybe I don't care and I let you rot in prison.
	So this is a message from Putin that he is the source of freedom and liberty and wealth and power in Russia.
	For the people who help him.
	For the people who play ball with Vladimir Putin, right?
	So this is like the Don saying, hey, I take care of my friends, right?
	Hey, you've killed thousands of people.
	That's OK.
	You're one of my guys.
	Now, exactly.
	So this is, from a Putin perspective, this is a power play that makes me look stronger.
	And whereas we would say, God, we're appalled by this.
	Like if you see, like the scene from Godfellas.
	It's a win for him.
	We're appalled.
	But it's a big win.
	That's right.
	Because from his perspective, it's a huge win.
	And we don't see that.
	Because when we see the guys in Godfell, go in the bar and beat the hell out of the guy.
	And then throw him in the trunk and kill him.
	We're thinking like, okay, you're bad people.
	They're thinking like, our enemies will fear us now.
	This is the Putin mindset.
	The other thing is, and again, not to comment about this woman or in any way, shape, or form, but look at this from a cultural perspective.
	How do Russians see this?
	Russians sees that Vladimir Putin is going for what they would say is, this man's a hero, he's fighting for Russia, right?
	And what is the most important thing the Americans value?
	A basketball player that wears a rainbow t-shirt.
	Well, and who says police are bad, and I'm not going to be there for the national anthem.
	And I'm not saying that, look, that Putin is a good guy, or that when they talk about culture and family and religion... But he's playing the cultural message.
	Right, and I get that.
	It's not genuine, right?
	So, for example, there are lots of European conservatives who are, I love my country, I love our church, you know.
	I love family.
	That is genuine, real, what we would call conservatism.
	For Putin, those are just tropes, right?
	They're just power things.
	But what allows him this narrative that he has, which he's always selling, whether people buy it or not, is the West is weak and corrupt.
	To him, in his head, I am reinforcing that message because the Americans are trading away a real man for what?
	Right.
	We're getting rid of this person who doesn't fit into our identity politics.
	Getting rid of this person and we're getting somebody who's a hard man who's going to support us.
	And I'm not saying he's right.
	I'm not saying he's virtuous.
	I'm just saying that's how he sees it from their perspective.
	What do you say to those who say this is now open season on U.S.
	citizens?
	I don't know if that's actually true.
	I will say, if you just look at the raw numbers, and this is the idea of every time you make a hostage deal, it's, hey, let's just go get another hostage.
	And again, this is just a fact.
	There was a big bump up in hostage taking under Obama and trading with him.
	We've seen it here.
	Under Trump, we saw literally the opposite.
	Trump got about 50... From places like North Korea.
	Like he got like... Like Warmbier.
	50 people out of incarceration in almost every case for nothing.
	Right.
	Like, you'll do this for me, right?
	Because you want me to be your friend, right?
	And we didn't see a big increase in hostage taking.
	So, look.
	As a guy who's taught foreign policy forever and worked with people who do this stuff for a living.
	It's never easy.
	These are tough choices, right?
	Obviously, you want to bring everybody home.
	Obviously, you have to get them back.
	Sure, you don't want to encourage more hostages.
	So it is tough.
	But this is where I go to think, look, these jobs really matter.
	What are you voting for?
	Which jobs?
	The people that we vote to put in office, who then pick a Secretary of State and a Secretary of Defense and a head of the CIA and a lead hostage negotiator.
	You know, we always say, well, I'm voting for the person that isn't mean, or doesn't tweet wrong, or they like my policies.
	Look nice.
	But you're voting for people who are going to make decisions that are going to affect the lives and safety and freedom of security of Americans.
	And so you want people of competence and people of character.
	And realize that they will have to make hard, tough decisions that will never, ever make everybody happy.
	Hold it there.
	So much more to discuss.
	The Vice President of the Conservative Mothership.
	He is Mr. National Security and Foreign Policy at the Heritage Foundation.
	You can follow him at JJ Carafano.
	You can find him on Twitter and also join Heritage.org.
	And check out my wife's latest paper that was launched just a couple of weeks ago with Mike Gonzalez, the domestic cultural Marxist threat and what to do about it.
	There you go.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Eric.
	Wow.
	Vulcan mind melt.
	Are you serious?
	Oh my gosh!
	Follow his sub stack as well, how cultural Marxism threatens the United States and how Americans can fight it back wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Stay on this channel.
	A real transatlantic conservative community unless we build our own forums and connectivity.
	Right.
	It's not going to happen.
	Yeah, we rely on other people's forums.
	Right, because there are two people that might get right into the Brussels forum and basically just there as kind of token things.
	There were some Spanish conservatives who were trying to do something like that like five years ago.
	From Vox?
	We work a lot with Vox.
	My network is just blowing up.
	Well then, shouldn't you guys build it?
	Yeah, I'm down.
	I am.
	Where would you host it?
	Oh, I mean, we're doing stuff all over the place.
	No, but shouldn't there be like a... Well, no, we have CPAC for that.
	No, no, but in Europe.
	No, we have CPAC Hungary.
	Yeah, no, but those are all... Shouldn't there be like one annual one that you guys help run that is like the CPAC for Europe?
	I don't think we're quite there yet.
	Really?
	I mean, I don't have that kind of money.
	Everything I do is kind of OPM.
	Other people's money.
	You know, nobody's given me like eight, you know, two million.
	This is the problem with the Atlantic Council and the German Marshall Fund.
	They have all the money on the planet.
	The Munich Security Conference.
	Are we on or off?
	We can kill it.
	everybody get picked up all right mic's up again Mic's on, mic's off.
	Wax on, wax off.
	Oh, that's a movie we've got to review, right?
	Karate Kid, Eric?
	Yeah.
	I've never seen it.
	You've never seen it?
	He's never seen Karate Kid?
	It's the first time you've mentioned a movie you might have to revoke his citizenship.
	I tried to watch the Netflix series.
	Jeff hasn't seen it either.
	I'm vindicated.
	I couldn't get into it.
	People love it.
	Yeah, I couldn't get into it.
	Actually, Karate Kid 2 and 3.
	Thank you.
	Now Brittany is coming home, but she has to dribble the entire time or it is traveling.
	It's a big win.
	Big win for freedom.
	Big win for Joe Biden, whose administration brokered the release.
	I think the correct analysis is a big win for Vladimir Putin.
	We're talking to Jim Carafano, Vice President of the Heritage Foundation.
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	Indeed.
	How could you not do that?
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	So you're always on the road.
	Look at that handsome devil.
	You're always on the road.
	You just got back from Germany again.
	We just got back from Israel, Katie and myself, and this incredibly smart Israeli kid took us on a tour underneath Jerusalem on the newly discovered Pilgrim Road from the cleansing pool all the way up to the temple.
	They found the 2,000-year-old road that Jesus walked on.
	And we're talking politics.
	We're talking archaeology.
	And he says one thing to us.
	He says, you know how tough it is to be Israel right now?
	Because we had four years where you are our ally, and then four years where you're trying to help our enemies.
	We feel like America is schizophrenic.
	Isn't that interesting?
	Well, you know, I think we've talked about this before, is we are schizophrenic.
	But to hear it from an Israeli!
	But I tell my friends, right, This is the America that you have to expect, which is the most important.
	And you know, as a guy who does strategy, the most important thing you want from your friends and enemy is to know what the heck they're going to do.
	Right.
	And the reality is, is what's changed in American politics is we used to say, Politics ends at the water's edge.
	Yes.
	And now because we have two political parties which are less diverse and really reflect two very divergent visions for America.
	You mean internally they're less diverse?
	Exactly.
	Right.
	Right.
	Because in the old days you could go and you could build a coalition on foreign policy for Republicans and Democrats.
	Both sides.
	Right, and so you could say, here are my hawks, my Democratic hawks on Vietnam, here are my Democratic hawks on Republicans, and together we, and you can't do that now because the parties are kind of ideologically opposed.
	And so what happens is, instead of Politics ending at the water's edge, foreign policy becomes an extension of domestic politics.
	Now this isn't true on, look, I mean, we're all strong on NATO, we get that, right?
	We're going to support Ukraine, we get that.
	But when you get to things, for example, when Biden's in power, they're going to walk in, hi, I'm the American Secretary of State, tell me what you're doing about diversity and then talk to me about your agreement agenda.
	Right.
	And a Republican?
	That's the opposite.
	That's the big deal.
	OK.
	We've managed to lock him in.
	I want Jim to stay here because we opened the show with the discussion of the latest Twitter drop.
	It mentions one of our good friends, a great conservative, saving campuses one school at a time.
	Charlie Kirk, are you there?
	Dr. Gorka, yes, sorry for the delay.
	It's been a while, as you can imagine.
	All right.
	I was so appreciative when you texted that you're going to make time for us.
	We've just got like a minute or two.
	Your reaction is one of the people who we now have evidence was shadow banned, was throttled by Twitter executives, including the CEO.
	Your response, are you buoyed by this?
	Should we be depressed, angry?
	What's Charlie Kirk thinking?
	Well, I feel vindicated because, I mean, Seb, I've been coming on your program for a while, but we could pull up in the archives.
	Where I was saying, I've been shadow banned, I've been censored, and, you know, some people just rolled their eyes and they said whatever.
	And so now this is verifiable smoking guns, a Bruderfilm proof that, yes, I was targeted by name.
	Do not amplify threat tag.
	A tag they do not give to Iran, you know, Ayatollah Khomeini, or to Hamas, or to any other hostile actors.
	No, Charlie Kirk's Twitter account was a threat.
	And I know you're up against a tough break here, Subban.
	I can appreciate that because I have to do them every day.
	So we can talk about it after the break, but there's a path forward here.
	Will you stay on for our video feed in the break?
	And we'll talk about it in the break, and we'll get Jim to jump in as well.
	In the meantime, before we go to cut to commercial, where can people hear your long reaction?
	Do they go to the podcast?
	Do they go to your Twitter feed?
	Where?
	Yeah, I did a whole hour today on the Charlie Kirk Show podcast.
	If you guys are familiar with podcasts, you guys can just type in Charlie Kirk Show and hit subscribe.
	I did a full takedown in-depth.
	I talked about my meeting with Jack Dorsey, which I can mention Dr. Gorka now, and my meeting with Twitter executives, you know, all of it.
	The New York Times is involved, Axios is involved.
	We will have a quick pre-see in the break, but you need to hear it all.
	Go right now, subscribe to Charlie's podcast and follow him on Twitter at CharlieKirk11.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We will continue in the break.
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	Charlie.
	- I I am here.
	All right, so let's continue the conversation.
	I'll get Jim's reaction, but first tell us about this thing you could reveal with regards to Jack Dorsey and the whole backstory.
	Yeah, so I met with Jack and some of the Twitter executives back in summer of 18.
	Candace Owens actually ran for me, and that's when Candace and I were jet-setting around the country.
	You remember that.
	It was a lot of fun, Seb, and we made a lot of headlines.
	And, you know, she kind of exploded on the scene, and she had one of the biggest Twitter accounts.
	All that stuff.
	And so I met with Jack and Candace, to her great credit, really kind of took control of the meeting from the beginning.
	And she was like, it's not right that you're censoring conservatives.
	And really, the meeting then kind of became a rather persuasive, albeit deceitful, defense from Jack Dorsey and his team that shadowbanning is not occurring.
	And he has all these engineers that walked through it.
	And I think if I remember correctly, and I've emailed to document this, you know, we left the meeting Not totally convinced, but at least felt like we were heard and that it wouldn't be an institutional problem.
	Then you fast forward about a year and a half later to the spring of 2020 when, of course, the virus comes and our whole world changes in real time.
	I still have those contacts and I'm texting Jack Dorsey and I'm texting them saying, guys, why is my engagement off a roof?
	What are you off the cliff?
	What's going on here?
	Silence.
	Radio silence.
	And so my hypothesis And I believe future Twitter files will show this.
	And there's some evidence already to show this, is that my account and Bongino's account and probably yours, Dr. Gorka, and all across the board, that Twitter, they were acting at the behest of the FBI and the Department of Justice and the CDC.
	My opinion... Yeah, go ahead.
	No, this is the big question after the last couple of drops.
	How is it that the chief counsel for the FBI ends up at Twitter as their deputy chief counsel and is allowed to scrub the documents before they are released by Matt Taibbi?
	The question is, Under whose direction?
	Do we really believe he was doing it by himself?
	He just said that he's going to sanitize them.
	Or there is a far, far, far deeper and darker reason for why he did what he did.
	Charlie, I know you are drinking out of a fire hose right now.
	We thank you that you made time for us.
	Follow him, Charlie Kirk 11 on Twitter.
	And don't forget, the full explanation for an hour is the Charlie Kirk podcast, the founder, the president of Turning Point USA.
	Thank you, Charlie.
	God bless.
	Thanks, Seb.
	See you soon.
	Can I get you to just comment on the ramifications, not for politics, but for...
	Yeah, yeah.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	I feel like I'm doing Bannon's War Room, where we've got multiple guests at the same time, guests running on with each other.
	We're keeping Jim in studio.
	We spoke to Charlie Kirk in the break.
	We're just going to have the Baron Boris up in a second.
	It's a little bit crazy, but it's Bannon-esque, but it's fun.
	Do you remember what they did to us under COVID?
	Do you remember where they tried to shut down churches, ban you from singing, from praising the Lord?
	That is the sign of tyranny.
	And of course, what happened as a result when people couldn't pray, couldn't preach?
	Suicide increased.
	Drug abuse increased.
	There's a new amazing film about the resistance of one pastor, songwriter Sean Foyt.
	It's called Super Spreader.
	It's the story of how Christians rose up.
	It's the Let Us Worship movement, bringing worship back to the people.
	It is a must-see movie.
	You can watch it right now at SalemNow.com.
	Check out Super Spreader.
	It is the lesson of what we have to do.
	The next time they try to do it to us.
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	All right, Boris is on the line first, Jim.
	Your response to, you know, we were told conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory, there's no assault against the freedom of speech in America in the First Amendment.
	Silicon Valley is fair.
	The last week, your response?
	Twitter has a three body problem, or Jack Dorsey does anyway.
	The first one is, what have you done to the brand of Twitter?
	Right?
	So this is a customer confidence issue about, essentially you're selling a product, which you're not really selling.
	You're selling a free and open marketplace where we are protecting people from harmful things, and which are actually delivering these politically censored speech.
	That's a product issue.
	The second thing is, As Charlie said, Jack, not just to Charlie, but in congressional testimony and probably lots of other places, lying about essentially what their practices were.
	So there might be liability.
	I don't know what he said in what forum and if he's under oath or if there were lawsuits or anything else.
	That's a whole kettle of fish.
	And this third one, of course, is the most saying is, yeah, look, at the end of the day, it's a private company.
	They want to censor your speech.
	You know, they have a lot of freedom to do that, but if they're actually colluding with the United States government... To do an end run around the First Amendment... At the behest of the United States government to censor your speech...
	Yeah.
	This would be a real, I think, real question of civil liberty violations.
	All right, let's bring in the legal big guns.
	He is, as of last week, senior adviser to the Trump 2024 campaign.
	We just call him the baron.
	Boris Epstein, perfect person to ask.
	Your reaction to all of this?
	Is there a legal ramification?
	Can Twitter, can there be a class action suit?
	Your general response.
	If there's government action, the answer is yes.
	So if Twitter—honored to be with you, and great to be with the whole team and audience.
	It's a big day today.
	If Twitter is shown to have colluded with any government entity or government-funded entity, then there is absolutely a First Amendment violation.
	Now, beyond that, if you can show that Twitter was interfering with the business interests of conservatives, There could be a tortious interference claim.
	Among others, you could look at federal claims, you could look at state-based claims.
	So yes, absolutely.
	Twitter has—and this is the previous ownership of Twitter—they have serious, serious exposure based on their violations and based on their wrongdoing toward conservatives, MAGA, and of course, President Donald J. Trump.
	All right, he brings the big phrases, tortuous interference.
	Jim, go ahead.
	No, can I say the most important thing, which is Charlie Kirk gets shadowbanned.
	Don Mangino got shadowbanned.
	They probably got you.
	Nobody shadowbanned me.
	What is wrong with... Aston!
	Sheep in the debate!
	No, no, it's all about... I've never been shadowbanned by Twitter.
	I've never been sanctioned by the Russians.
	I've never been banned by the Chinese.
	I've never had an Iranian death squad try to run me down.
	Don't I deserve better?
	You've got your America First hat, wear it in public, you will be on an Iranian hit list, I guarantee.
	Seriously, one question for both of you guys.
	Let's start with you, Jim.
	We're talking about First Amendment, end rounds, collusion with the state.
	How about this question?
	And then Boris will give us the legal analysis.
	But let's talk about free and fair elections.
	If the DNC, forget the government, if the DNC is getting contributions in kind by saying, we don't like this account, we don't like this conservative, shut him down, ban him, suspend him, social media is the information highway for politics.
	Can we have fair elections?
	Well, this is an interesting issue right there, which is Are you providing a free service to a political entity that you are not reporting as a service that you have provided?
	Or providing to the other party as well.
	It actually even raises tax implications, which are you giving away goods and services The DNC is not a 501C3.
	It's not a non-profit agency.
	If I did that, if I at the Heritage Foundation wrote an article in Daily Signal and said something for the RNC, I would go to jail because the Heritage Foundation would have violated its non-profit status.
	I'm not sure they can do that.
	If you had a radio station and you said we're only going to run ads from Republicans, I don't know how the FCC would feel about that.
	Boris, is there an angle here which doesn't apply just to the government doing an end run around the Constitution?
	Isn't there a campaign finance issue?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, if this was meant to help candidates, which obviously it was, from everybody from Joe, you know, the selfless, pathetic, hopeless Joe Biden, to the Senate candidates, House candidates, yes, there's enough.
	You see, there's a legal campaign contribution issue, no doubt about that.
	All right.
	He is the senior advisor to the Trump 2024 campaign.
	Follow him everywhere.
	BorisEP.com.
	Social media as well.
	Boris Epstein.
	And we have been talking.
	It's our Friday.
	I like this banner thing.
	Multiple guests.
	We'll have to talk about Jeff as to whether this is like spinning plates.
	No, no.
	I think Jim says no.
	I want my own segment by myself.
	I'm a prima donna.
	I don't want to...
	I love fighting with Boris.
	He'll crush me.
	Well, he's on remote.
	He's on a phone call.
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	With all the Top Cats, if you're listening to this show, you are a Top Cat.
	Yes, indeed.
	It's Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	I didn't mention the one item that's not part of the Christmas bundle, but my gosh, this thing is so nice.
	It's the MAGA Returns Trump 2024 hat.
	What do you think of that, Eric?
	Isn't that an amazing piece of merch?
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	I can see a lot of people wanting that one.
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	So much more to discuss.
	Kirsten Sinema has become an independent, making her the most powerful person in the Senate right now because she won't have to.
	She won't have to follow the orders of Chuck Schumer and the Democrats.
	We have some amazing audio from Newt Gingrich.
	I want to play that caller audio.
	about Carrie Lake.
	If you didn't hear it yesterday, it is a perfect example of what the left wants to do to all of us who are patriots.
	But let me ask Mr. G, that was quite a funky first hour there, wasn't it?
	Got a little wild.
	Yeah.
	Is that good wild or bad wild?
	I understand why he did it.
	I think it was a little much.
	A little much?
	Yeah, it was a little much.
	At one point it was like three different guests in like six minutes.
	Is that because you're still recovering from your illness, Geoff, that it was too much?
	Are you dehydrated?
	Do you need a cigar?
	No, I'm pushing through.
	I'm like Michael Jordan in the flu game.
	The sports people will know what I'm talking about.
	I have no idea who Michael Jordan is.
	Eric, go ahead.
	What do you think?
	Was that a little too much for you?
	I mean, it's Friday.
	You've had your pizza.
	You should be energized.
	It's good to move at the speed of Trump every now and then, but not too many times.
	Shake it up a little.
	I like that.
	What about the man with the liners, the man with the music, Mr. Alex?
	Because you're pretty new.
	Are you the newest guy here?
	I am.
	So was that like a little bit of battle stations for you?
	Was that tough?
	I like the energy.
	I like it, too.
	Yeah.
	You need to be more like Alex, you old bastards.
	Come on.
	Just be a little bit more energized.
	It's Friday!
	Have fun!
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Is the smoking gun of censorship of conservatives like Libs of TikTok and Dan Bongino.
	We'll give you all the details and a very special Second Amendment guest.
	Yes!
	We're gonna have Kyle Rittenhouse.
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	Mike, sir.
	Yes, we have about three minutes.
	Oh, no.
	Kill the mics, Alex.
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	He shouldn't have had a gun.
	He crossed state lines to supposedly protect property.
	No, he was going out to shoot people.
	Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old vigilante.
	Kyle Rittenhouse, the vigilante.
	Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante.
	A 17-year-old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorist, picked up a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people.
	Kyle Rittenhouse.
	A guy who's deeply racist went with weapons to a Black Lives Matter protest looking to get in trouble.
	He did.
	He murdered a couple of people.
	Rittenhouse, a 17-year-old kid, just running around, shooting and killing protesters.
	You see the 17-year-old, who was radicalized by Trumpism, took his AR-15 to Kenosha and became a killer.
	Racist vigilante just gunning down black protesters in America.
	Oh really?
	You mean the man who was trying to help people out in Kenosha?
	An individual who was targeted for death by those protesters and who was found not guilty by a jury of his peers?
	That Carl Rittenhouse?
	We are delighted to have with us a man whose story shouldn't have had to be told, but in today's America there may be another Kyle Rittenhouse.
	Hopefully they will be as cool, collected and responsible as this man.
	Kyle Howard Rittenhouse!
	Welcome to America First!
	How are you doing, Sebastian?
	Thank you for having me.
	I'm doing great.
	I think the last time you were on the show, we met at, I think it was CPAC somewhere, and we managed to get you on the show.
	I think hopefully, I don't know, are you going to be coming to SHOT Show in January?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	We'll have to organize that because I saw you recently on Brandon Herrera, the AK Guy's YouTube channel.
	A really fun interview, guys.
	You need to watch it.
	Almost as good as this interview is going to be.
	But I know you're a big Second Amendment individual.
	We need to get you to that amazing festivities in January.
	But first things first, we got you on for two segments.
	We're delighted you joined us.
	Can you just tell everybody, you're talking to 3 million people from Texas to California to New York, all over the country, what happened to you on that day in Kenosha?
	Why were you there and why did you have to use that weapon to protect yourself?
	Well, I was in Kenosha to provide first aid and help protect a business that was getting set on fire.
	And by protect the business, I mean protect it by putting out fires and helping injured people.
	And then I went to the car store slot number three, as we referred to it in the trial, and I was ambushed, chased down, and violently attacked where I was forced to defend myself three times.
	What was the skin color?
	What was the ethnicity of the people who attacked you and the two people who tried to kill you?
	They were all white.
	They were all white.
	But I've seen headlines saying that you killed two black men.
	Multiple headlines.
	That's not true.
	The fake media, the fake news likes to say that and they like to try to push their own narrative.
	They like to call me a vigilante and a racist and a white supremacist and none of that's true.
	I just urge people to go out and watch the trial, watch interviews with me in it and learn the real facts of what happened before listening to Sources like MSNBC or CNN.
	And watch the video.
	There's video of Kyle.
	There's video.
	There's video of this person coming to, you know, cave in his head with a skateboard.
	And then another person, a convicted pedophile who raped five children, young boys, who earlier.
	There's video.
	This is the mind-numbing thing about Kyle's story.
	There's video from earlier in the day where this person is screaming to you, I'm going to kill you.
	Actually, on the video.
	And then later tries to kill you.
	And then there's this person coming at you.
	With a Glock at you, chasing you, and you do the only reasonable thing.
	I'm glad you had an AR-15, the most popular rifle in America outside of the Ruger 10-22, and you defended yourself and you acquitted yourself.
	And my gosh, the way you comported yourself during the trial.
	How old were you during the trial, Kyle?
	I was 19 during the trial.
	I'm about to turn 20 in January.
	Stunning.
	When you thought That, okay, I defended myself.
	These people wanted to kill me.
	I didn't provoke anybody.
	You were running backwards, away from the people.
	The fact that that ended up as a trial...
	I know you need to write a book about this, I know there should be a movie, but can you share with our listeners, what was your expectation going into that?
	Were you shocked that you were tried for murder?
	Did you have expectations that the system would work?
	Or how concerned were you that there's no way I'm going to get a fair trial?
	Well, I put my trust in God.
	Whatever God wants to happen will happen.
	I defended myself.
	I know I did the right thing.
	I prayed that he gave the jury strength, which he did.
	I don't think I should have been prosecuted to begin with.
	I thought it was clear-cut self-defense, which it was.
	And I was disappointed that it never had to go there.
	There was a moment in the trial where I think it was obvious that everything's turning in your favor.
	Did you share that?
	Was there a moment for you when you said, finally, you know, they're admitting that they wanted to kill me, this guy whose arm I blew off.
	Was there a moment where you said?
	Yes.
	I mean, if you go back and watch the trial, you see me visually react.
	I just like, I take a deep breath in relief because he just told the truth on the stand.
	I was not expecting him to admit that he pointed a pistol at my head.
	And what has life been like for you since that jury of your American peers acquitted you and pronounced you innocent?
	Tell us a little bit about your life.
	I know, let's put it out, he's got a new YouTube channel.
	I think it's the only YouTube channel with no content that has already got 82,000 subscribers.
	A lot of people waiting for your content.
	What has your life been like since you were declared innocent?
	It's been interesting, to say the least.
	I've gotten to travel to some cool places and speak to some very cool people about my story, but recently I was served with a civil lawsuit that I'm currently defending.
	Again, I have to go back to court to defend myself in this case that Mr. Huber has filed upon me, which has been very stressful.
	Hang on, is this the... Who's suing you?
	Tell us about this case, Kyle.
	The family of Anthony Huber is suing me in the Eastern District of Wisconsin with about 20 other police departments.
	I don't know the exact number of police that are on it.
	And it's expensive.
	It's costing a lot of money to pay for.
	And it's stressful.
	They're suing me.
	For a bunch of things that I can't get into, but you can go to www.givesango.com forward slash Kyle Rittenhouse to donate and also read the amended complaint that they filed against them.
	And who is Anthony Huber?
	Will you remind all of our listeners who that person is?
	Mr. Huber is the guy who attacked me with a skateboard.
	And what do we know about him before he did that?
	Is this an average person?
	What kinds of things were revealed during the court case?
	Well, due to the criminal, uh, civil case that I'm facing right now, I, I can't really talk about Mr. Huber's past background at all.
	Just, uh, just cause, um, you know, the case going on.
	All right.
	Well, it is mind blowing that now you are being sued.
	Uh, the idea that you have been cleared.
	And you have to defend yourself again.
	So please, right now, it's on the screen.
	It's www.givesendgo.com slash Kyle Rittenhouse.
	That's www.givesendgo.com slash Kyle Rittenhouse.
	If you can support this man, please support him right now.
	In addition to the support financially that you've received, tell us some good stories about the reaction and support you've received from Americans across the country.
	What kind of messages of support have you received, Kyle?
	I constantly get DMs of Bible verses and just stories and inspiring quotes that people share with me.
	That's very powerful.
	It really brings my spirits up when I read a Bible verse that somebody comments on one of my things or just tells me that it's going to be okay.
	Just messages of support from people all across the world and letting me know that I'm not alone in this fight and that America has my back.
	I have to say it's one of the most delightful things of my day because I follow you on Twitter and it's just to see I think almost every day you just you have a very simple Christian quote you have a little quote from the Bible and it's like recharges the battery so please follow this man on Twitter as well we're talking to Carl Rittenhouse An amazing young man, not even in his 20s yet, where he's going to stay with us for one more segment.
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	Kyle, the mics are still hot in the break.
	Three minute break and then we'll come back.
	Okay, perfect.
	So did you have fun with Brandon?
	It looked like you did.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I had a lot of fun.
	That was a blast.
	I actually saw him a couple days ago.
	I live here in Texas now.
	How do you like it?
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Are you located?
	No, just outside the swamp.
	We're in DC.
	I live in Virginia because I'm a big gun guy so there's no way I'm gonna live in Washington DC but I met Brandon for the first time at the last SHOT Show.
	Amazing guy and now I need to go.
	He's building an AK for me so I can't wait.
	He's doing a custom AK and then I'm gonna see him in January.
	Did you not talk to him about going to SHOT Show?
	I think NAGR wants to have me out.
	A couple organizations want to have me out.
	Which one is that?
	National Association for Gun Rights.
	For Gun.
	Are you going to be at AMP Fest next week?
	No, no, no.
	No, no, no.
	I'm just... National Association for Gun Rights.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	I think we've had somebody from them on the show before.
	Well, I hope you come.
	It's a lot of fun.
	And we actually broadcast the show from there.
	So we're on the main floor, and we broadcast the show live.
	Oh, wow.
	I got it cut from the trial, if you want it.
	Good.
	How long is it?
	It's like 40 seconds.
	All right.
	Come in with it.
	All right.
	Yeah, the video game one.
	Right, 2 minutes 20 seconds.
	We have a title in mind for that, uh, three guest madhouse.
	So we talked about Griner, we talked about Elon.
	Twitter was kind of the... Yeah.
	Goodness.
	And we called segment one Elon Delivers, right?
	Yes, the monologue.
	Can we all sue Twitter?
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Sue Twitter.
	Got it.
	All right.
	can stand by Kyle.
	Thank you.
	Isn't it true when you would hang out with Dominic Black, you'd play Call of Duty and other first-person shooter video games?
	Sometimes.
	And those are games in which you use weapons like AR-15s to pretty much shoot anybody who comes at you, correct?
	It's a video game where two players are playing together.
	I don't really understand the meaning of your question, to be honest.
	Isn't one of the things people do in these video games, try and kill everyone else with your guns?
	Yeah, the video game is...
	It's just a video game.
	It's not real life.
	Yeah, it's just a video game like Cowboys and Indians, okay?
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	Guys, look, you need to follow me on every social media channel, okay, except the fascists at YouTube.
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	But I've just gone to Kyle's Twitter account.
	And it's, like, only 882,000.
	Can we... We've got six more minutes with him.
	Can we just get him to a million by the end of this segment?
	Come on, guys.
	This is... This is Kyle R. Go right... If you've got a Twitter account and you're breathing and you're listening to this show and you can actually hold your phone, go right now to ThisIsKyleR and follow him!
	And tell everybody else to follow him!
	I want him to have a million!
	Today!
	Let's do it.
	Now, I've just retweeted at the top of my feed the pinned tweet at the top of Kyle's feed about him being sued by... I'll just read my tweet.
	Kyle is being sued by the family of one of the men who tried to murder him.
	I will read that again.
	Kyle is being sued by the family of one of the men who tried to murder him.
	Please support this brave young man.
	It's at the top of my feed.
	Do it now.
	All right, let's switch gears a little bit in that fun interview with Brandon, who's going to be with us in a moment.
	You talked guns.
	You talked AKs, ARs.
	You had fun at his expense, which is enjoyable.
	I have to say one thing now that I've got you on my show.
	Your control of your weapon During that incident in Kenosha was really impressive.
	I've been shooting since I was old enough to hold a gun.
	My dad taught me as a kid.
	I served in the British Army Reserves.
	I'm pretty good, but I'm not sure I could control myself under that level of duress.
	Tell us a little bit about firearms history in your family.
	Who taught you to shoot?
	How often did you shoot?
	Tell us a little bit about how controlled you were that day.
	Well, Sebastian, I don't have much shooting experience.
	I maybe put 100, 200 rounds to that AR.
	Wow.
	I knew the fundamentals of it.
	I knew how it worked.
	That's about it.
	I don't have much training.
	I was a police explorer where I learned the basics of firearm safety and a little bit about shotguns and rifles and pistols, but that's about it.
	So what about high stress situations?
	So you went to a place that was being destroyed, shops being broken into.
	That takes a bit of guts.
	You said you were there to provide medical assistance if necessary.
	So did you have kind of training in EMT, first aid?
	Is that where you maintain that coolness under those incredible conditions?
	Maybe.
	I was a firefighter EMT cadet, but I was also a lifeguard at two different pools in a swim instructor, which taught me how to handle stress pretty well, I think.
	So if you're now known for what happened at Kenosha, if you've got this new YouTube channel, you're going on, you know, Second Amendment channels as well, we have seen in the last three years, Kyle, especially under COVID, this explosion of firearms ownership.
	We have at least 30, 35 million new firearms owners.
	As somebody who is now looked to as a result of your history, who's having this new YouTube channel deploying imminently, what do you say to people who've just bought a gun and haven't got lots of experience with it?
	What is your message to this massive new membership of the Second Amendment family?
	Well, I think you should take time to learn about your firearm.
	I'm no expert.
	I'm 19 years old.
	I'm just learning myself about More and more about firearm stuff, but educate yourself.
	If you want to own a gun, you should read up on it and figure out what type of weapon, if that's the right fit for you.
	And yeah, I think everybody should exercise their second amendment right to purchase firearms.
	And what are your plans?
	We've seen some photographs of you with the famous politicians here in Washington, D.C.
	You're a young man.
	You're a famous man.
	Can you divulge for us the kinds of things you might be doing in the future or what you would like to do in the future?
	Well, I'd really like to become a voice for the Second Amendment and just for advocating for people in general and be able to support people who've been in similar situations and Pray with them and just maybe testify upon the Second Amendment.
	We lost you there for a second on the Skype connection.
	You'd like to testify about what, Kyle?
	Well, about the Second Amendment to Congress, potentially one day, and just advocate for it.
	Advocate for why people deserve to own firearms and for pro-gun laws.
	Unlike the laws that they're trying to push now, I think we should advocate for 18- to 20-year-old constitutional carry.
	If you look at young college students, specifically young women, there's a rise in crimes against them.
	I have an 18-year-old girlfriend, and she should be allowed to carry and protect herself.
	If the situation arises.
	Great point.
	We've got 60 seconds left.
	You went through purgatory.
	You went through hell and back.
	You're a free man.
	Give us the thing that kept you going in the darkest hours, Kyle.
	What was it?
	Praying to God.
	Really, really leaning to Him in the times that I needed Him most and being able to pray and talk to Him and conversate and Just feeling the strength he gave me and feeling the prayers that everybody prayed.
	Yeah, God and prayers really helped in my darkest times.
	You are an impressive young man.
	We're honored to have you on the show.
	I want everyone who's listening to support you.
	Follow him first.
	This is Kyle R. I want to see a million subscribers by the end of the show.
	And then go to GiveSendGo slash Kyle Rittenhouse.
	Support this man right now.
	God bless you, Kyle.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	Three and a half minutes.
	There we go.
	So now we have... Flores.
	I sent you two images.
	- Okay.
	Not showing up yet.
	I do have a picture of him from online if we're gonna use that.
	No, I sent you pictures of the drag event, the drag queen event.
	Oh, okay, okay.
	We missed an Angel Tree.
	Yeah, and you didn't give me the car reminders either, so... I'll do Angel Tree here.
	Mic's off?
	Mic's off.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	All right, we have a very special guest today.
	This is an individual who was brought to us by, I'll just call him JJ, who was with me in Israel, who shared the news of an event in Fresno tomorrow.
	Let's put it up on the screen because people won't believe me.
	It's so shocking and perverse.
	This is the Fresno Drag Festival.
	Yes, the Drag Festival being held at Our Savior's Lutheran Church tomorrow.
	Put the other image up on the screen, please.
	So there you have evidence.
	It's tomorrow at 12 p.m.
	and there's an individual who can tell us about it because he's resisting this insanity.
	He is the pastor of the Adventure Community, the Adventure Church in Fresno, Anthony Flores.
	Pastor Flores, welcome to America First!
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, for having me on, and I just appreciate you helping us to bring attention to the moral depravity in our city.
	This is absolutely appalling.
	It's ludicrous.
	I don't understand what's happening to the city that I call home, that I love, that I pastor in.
	And it just it's mind blowing how far the trans takeover is coming.
	And it's coming to a city near you.
	We used to be the Bible Belt of California.
	That is no longer.
	And you can see they did this already at the zoo.
	And we got together some local pastors and we we vehemently protested that as well.
	And we said, listen, this has got to stop.
	They're trying to indoctrinate kids.
	They're trying to groom kids.
	And nobody's taking it serious.
	It's like, when are you going to wake up?
	And so here they are targeting kids again, and it's ironic that they call it Our Savior's Lutheran Church.
	That's exactly what they need.
	They need a savior.
	For those who don't believe what I just said, this drag queen event is happening at a church, correct Pastor?
	It is.
	If you want to call it a church, I don't think we can call it a church.
	Right.
	You are not lifting up Jesus.
	It's demonic.
	It's foul.
	If you look at the two drag queens, whatever you want to call them, if that's what they want to be called, Vandervoort Odd, you can go on and you can search his Twitter, his Instagram.
	It's foul.
	It's demonic.
	It is satanic.
	And you're going to put kids in front of this?
	This is ludicrous.
	Enough's enough.
	The trans takeover, it's enough.
	We need to do something.
	All right, we need to talk more about this.
	Can we talk to you in the break?
	Will you stay on the line?
	Absolutely.
	All right, we talked to Pastor Anthony Flores of the Adventure Church in Fresno.
	The Lutheran quote-unquote church, Savior Church in Fresno, is having a drag queen hour.
	Let's put that first image up again for those who are watching and who just don't want to believe me or the pastor.
	This is the evidence.
	VIP tickets, $50.
	Regular tickets for 10 years and younger.
	$10?
	Wow.
	Incredible.
	All right, we'll talk about what we do about this in the break.
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	Yes, sir.
	So tell our viewers about the run-in you already had or this case that's currently involving the transgender extremists.
	Yep, you got it.
	Go ahead.
	Oh, so I went to, two years ago, I went to purchase what's called the Historic Tower Theater.
	And it was a deal between me and the owner.
	And when the it's in the what we would call the heart of the gay district here in Fresno, California.
	And when they found out we were going to purchase it, literally all hell broke out.
	We were the subject of the longest running protest in US history against the church.
	I think it ended at 78 or 79 weeks in a row they protested.
	And what were they protesting?
	That God-fearing people wanted to buy property in the middle of the homosexual district?
	Correct.
	And then the mayor, who was a Christian, went along with it, told us out.
	The city council voted, the guy backed out of a deal, and the city stepped in and paid $1.7 million more for the building, and then indemnified the owners, so we currently have a lawsuit.
	Okay, we need to have a longer conversation.
	Are you able to do... Can you do a Skype interview with us next week?
	Whatever you need, Dr. Gorka.
	Absolutely.
	Alright.
	Are you guys doing anything tomorrow?
	Are you going to have a protest?
	They are.
	Liberty Coalition, who reached out to me, is going to be there at 11.30.
	Okay.
	And yeah, a couple organizations are together, but we can send them there.
	It's just the easiest one to find.
	Alright.
	Give that name again.
	Liberty Coalition.
	Liberty Coalition and 1130 at the Lutheran Savior Church in Fresno, correct?
	Yeah, and by law I think they'll be across the street.
	Yes, they'll probably be across on the opposite sidewalk.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Correct.
	Good.
	Well, God bless you.
	Hold the line and we'll talk next week.
	Do you want me to stay on or I can hang up?
	No, no.
	You're done for now and then we'll have a longer chat next week by Skype.
	Okay, you got it.
	God bless.
	Thanks.
	All right, so Mr. Smith, right?
	I'm going to do car 15 here, and then I'm going to do PhD, and then we'll talk to Mr. Smith.
	And then who is the guy Ziegler was fired, right?
	Ziegler, that's right.
	Because?
	Wow.
	Is this phone or Skype?
	All right.
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	All right, guys, as you know from the story I told about the burglary of my house in Virginia last week, God bless our dogs, those burglars have got probably some sore tookuses because they were chased out of the house, that I am a resident of the Commonwealth, a Commonwealth that used to be conservative, used to believe in family values, but a Commonwealth that used to be conservative, used to believe in family values, but lately, especially when you look at what's It's been taken over by extremists, and extremists who are endangering our children.
	And I mean truly endangering our children.
	One man who knows about that more than anyone else is the father, Scott Smith.
	Mr. Smith, welcome to America First.
	Hey, how are you doing?
	Thanks for having me.
	I'm doing well, I'm doing well.
	I need to get your response as the father of a girl who was raped in one of our schools, a rape which was covered up by the authorities.
	Finally, finally after a closed session of the Loudoun County School Board, the superintendent Scott Ziegler was fired.
	Allegedly he still gets 12 months of pay.
	Your response to this decision, not enough and too late, I would presume.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know, it's a year too late.
	Um, you know, we were glad that he was fired, but he's just one of many on the list.
	You know, the once this, you know, special grand jury report came in and, you know, now the school board is, you know, shocked of what they heard.
	You know that that's nonsense.
	They knew what was going on the whole time.
	Um, you know, now they're just, you know, trying to hide behind that.
	You know, we can't move forward and really start healing until we see, you know, these people that, you know, endangered my child and the other daughter and several others, I'm sure, you know, are held accountable.
	Change can't happen.
	Trust can't be rebuilt, you know, when there's the same players still involved.
	So until they're all gone, we're still on it.
	You know, live in a safe world and didn't hear any of this unbelievable story.
	And tell me if I'm missing any of the key parts.
	Your daughter was raped by a boy who had a transgender identity.
	He was wearing a skirt, allegedly.
	That rape was denied.
	It was hushed up.
	And that young man was moved to another school where he did it again, where he assaulted another girl.
	And through all of this, the school board acted as if there's no problem, correct?
	Yeah, that's correct.
	You know, as far as whether he's transgender or, you know, I don't know what he, you know, there's so many different descriptions of what these people think they can be.
	You know, he was wearing a skirt that day.
	And, you know, he is what he is.
	He's a sexual predator, sick, sick individual.
	Has this young man paid any price?
	Was he ever arrested?
	Was he ever charged?
	What happened to him?
	Yeah, he was arrested and he was charged for both the assault on my daughter and the assault on the other girl.
	It ended up being three felonies and I think a misdemeanor, I can't remember.
	He was found guilty on all charges, and he is away at some undisclosed residential treatment center for sex offenders for an undisclosed amount of time.
	And what happened to you at a school board meeting where you demanded the truth about what happened to your daughter and her rapist?
	What happened to you, Mr. Smith?
	You know, that's been just a whole side mess.
	You know, I was at the school board meeting to, you know, hear and find out, you know, why they were Trying to pass these, you know, these policies.
	And, you know, next thing I know, a radical parent protester was yelling at my wife and berating me and her and threatening my family business.
	And the police grabbed me from behind, which, you know, I'm not too thrilled about.
	I was charged with two charges, one resisting arrest, one disorderly conduct.
	I was found guilty on both of them, where it got really tricky was the prosecutor of the Commonwealth of Loudoun.
	Chief prosecutor.
	She is, you know, George Soros funded.
	She's evil to the Hilton.
	She's probably the biggest problem here in Loudoun.
	But she tried to put me in jail.
	It was horrific.
	I appealed it.
	We got new attorneys, Senator Bill Stanley, and we got one charge dismissed.
	We got Buddha recused from my appeal, which was huge.
	Now we're working with a new prosecutor, and I believe that that charge is going to be taken care of probably by the first of the year.
	Yeah, it was just something that was unnecessary.
	This woman is Bhuta Biberaj.
	The Loudoun County prosecutor is Bhuta Biberaj, for those who are curious.
	Mr. Scott, we've got a minute left.
	What can my listeners who live in the Commonwealth, who live across the nation, what can they do for you and your daughter, and what would you say to those who think this couldn't happen to them?
	Well, I'll tell you what they can do is they need to stay on the school board.
	They need to go to the school board meetings and speak, and they need to demand resignations.
	We cannot accept the people that stood on the board and defended Scott Ziegler to remain.
	It just has to happen.
	It needs to.
	And, you know, again, the special grand jury is not done with their business.
	They haven't been adjourned.
	So stay tuned.
	I think there's more to come.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	We will keep you.
	We will keep your daughter and the other victim of that sexual predator in our prayers.
	I request all of you listening to this show pray for the Smith family and pray for all the children who are vulnerable to this transgender, pro-pedophilic Extremism that is infecting our schools and our culture.
	God bless you, Mr. Smith.
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	Alright.
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	What else is it that I have to do?
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	No, I did a Car 30 for the second segment with Kyle.
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	No, no.
	I want a video Skype interview for two segments.
	Okay.
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	Drag queen.
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	All right.
	Smith, firing rapist protector Ziegler is not enough.
	Alright.
	Did you say you're coming in with something or no?
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	Alright.
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	But now for what the Scorpion would actually be useful for, which is multiple enemies of the state at very awkwardly close distance.
	Lemonade stand, die filthy capitalist pigs!
	have a nice day i know it's only a 32 acp caliber weapon but that's some pretty good muzzle control on a weapon with the cyclic rate that the little scorpion does i don't I love that clip.
	Why?
	Not because it's simply a celebration of firearms and toxic masculinity, but it reveals the deep hidden thespian talents of our special guest for the manhood hour today.
	He's known as the AK guy, Brandon Herrera.
	Welcome to this special edition of America First.
	Thank you for having me on.
	It's always a pleasure.
	While we were playing that clip, I was watching you on the little Skype connection.
	You didn't look very comfortable.
	Do you not like watching videos of yourself?
	Are you like one of those actors who say, oh, I've never seen the movies I'm in.
	I can't watch that stuff.
	I watch my own videos quite a lot to critique myself, and I hate it.
	I hate watching my videos around other people.
	Cause I just, I feel like I have to look down.
	It's how everybody pull, you know, they want to talk you up at a party or something.
	Oh yeah.
	Look at what he does.
	I'm like, no, no, no.
	Give me the, give me the remote.
	Uh, and why then do you add the hilarious bloopers to the end of your films?
	Cause I think that's some of the best stuff.
	I guess it just shows that, you know, at the end of the day, we were just having fun and we don't take ourselves that seriously.
	Like a lot of the stuff is just very dark humor.
	And so, like, we're not being serious about most of the stuff we say.
	We're just having fun.
	All right, guys, if you're not familiar with him, you've got to follow him.
	It's one of my favorite YouTube channels.
	It's The AK Guy.
	You can also follow him on Twitter at The AK Guy, Brandon Herrera.
	It's informative.
	He has a passion for a certain platform built by a certain Soviet sergeant in the tank corps.
	But it's also funny.
	It's really good.
	Kind of subtle humor and dark humor.
	You've been on my show.
	You know what they say about dark humor, right?
	No, what do they say, Brandon?
	It's just like food, not everybody gets it.
	Now that, that's a perfect example!
	A perfect example.
	Alright, you've been a regular guest on my show on the Friday Second Amendment hours where we have a special guest every Friday sponsored by Carr Firearms.
	Now we're having you here for something else because I think you are a good example of toxic masculinity.
	But let's first, for those who aren't familiar with you, they will send their apologies very, very soon.
	Who is Brandon Herrera?
	Where do you hail from?
	And what is it that you do exactly?
	What is it that you do here?
	If you're not familiar with me, it's probably because you're a well-adjusted adult.
	But basically, my entire thing is trying to bring firearms education to the forefront, while also just using entertainment to do so.
	So whether that's firearm safety or just teaching people about the mechanics of guns, maybe taking some of their favorite guns and showing, OK, we know what this thing does, but how does it work?
	Because gun design is kind of my passion.
	So that's kind of been where we go about that.
	You just lied for a whole minute there.
	It's not about guns and gun safety.
	It's about one stinking platform.
	Can you be a little bit specific as to your name, please?
	OK?
	It's not guns in general.
	Well, so I do have quite an affinity for the AK platform specifically, but I'm not a monogamist when it comes to weapon platforms.
	I kind of, I run the gamut and my objective at the end of the day is to have one of everything.
	Just have a giant reference library of every, you know, there's only so many ways you could shoot a projectile down a barrel, but I want to know every way people have tried to do.
	That's so un-American.
	Why do you only want one of each?
	I'm not saying I don't have multiples of my favorites.
	Oh, okay, good.
	Okay, so your goal is at least one?
	At least one reference item, maybe a couple.
	Like, for example, I have a collection of Makarovs by different nationality, because I just think Makarovs are neat.
	They're, you know, not exactly a great handgun, but I think they're kinda sexy.
	Come on, you gotta admit the CZ-83 is like a light year ahead of it.
	Depends.
	The fire control group is a little... I've seen those break before and I've never seen a macro fire control group break.
	Yeah, because it was built by flipping Neanderthals.
	All right.
	Exactly.
	One last question before we get into the meat of what is ostensibly the manhood hour.
	You have, you know, a certain proximity, if not, you know, more than just geographically to things to do with North Carolina and a certain military base that I have frequented literally hundreds of times.
	So why the heck the AK and not the AR that our Green Beret buddies and the airborne troops use at Fort Bragg?
	For sure.
	So I grew up in Fayetteville, North Carolina, kind of on Fort Bragg.
	And so I had a big exposure to the military growing up.
	Uh, it took me a very, you know, it took a decent way through my childhood to realize that when you grow up, joining the military, isn't just what you do.
	That's just what all my friends' dads did and whatnot.
	So I'm like, okay, that's just your career path in life.
	Cause that was just kind of the military mindset of that, that area.
	Uh, but really what got me on the AK was, uh, it was my dad took me shooting.
	Uh, he had just picked up an AK.
	He's like, son, this is how this thing works.
	Basically gave me the, Basic introduction to the platform.
	I think I was like eight, eight years old.
	And then, uh, we'd go a couple of times, like over the next couple of years, he would just kind of show me and he'd be like, all right, well, you know, now you've shot it.
	And I really think he just didn't want to clean it, but he showed me how to clean it.
	He's like, all right, well, every time I take you to the range, the deal is you have to break it down and clean it.
	So I got a really intimate familiarization with the AK platform.
	Before I was old enough to have a learner's permit to drive.
	What was it?
	Was it a Norinco or Wasser?
	Do you remember what it was?
	Your first AK?
	There was a Norinco under folder, like a Spiker, and there was a Romanian SAR-1.
	Those were the two I grew up on.
	Alright, I swear we're going to get to the manhood questions, but last one on the AKs.
	AKs are manly?
	This is a manhood question.
	This is good!
	Yeah, this is my default.
	If Brandon doesn't give me all the answers I want on manhood, we're just going to talk about guns.
	You have two choices for the worst AK stock.
	AMD 65 Hungary or the Underfolder?
	Oh, I am not a huge fan of either.
	The underfolder does have a very classic look.
	It does, but it's even more uncomfortable to shoot than the AMD.
	It is, it is.
	And you better not have a magazine that's bigger than 30 rounds, because you're not going to be able to fold or unfold.
	Right, or a drop.
	Right, right.
	I'm going to give slight edge to underfolder, because at least you can get somewhat of a cheek weld on most of them, whereas the AMD is a optimistic chin weld.
	Exactly.
	It's a helmet world.
	Okay, good.
	That was my first rifle, actually.
	It was the first rifle I ever owned.
	It was an AMD-65.
	Right, we're talking about the Hungarian AK, made by F.E.G.
	Alright, let's get down to business.
	I asked all my guests five big questions, and then we have some fun with it.
	First things first in the manhood hour.
	Brandon Herrera, is the concept of masculinity, of manhood in America, in danger?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Between Hollywood targeting, basically any Positive male role models that you could possibly have, and intentionally it seems, and just the devaluation of men in society in general.
	I think that that's the toxic part.
	And if you had to identify of all the different sources where that assault is coming from, in military terms, the center of gravity, What is it?
	Is it the schools?
	The breakup of the family?
	Is it Hollywood?
	Is it social media?
	Is it a political party?
	If we had to, I say, okay, this is the big problem.
	Which one would you choose of them all?
	I think it's a combination of all of them, obviously, but I think it is almost like one leading to the other.
	And I actually just thought about this now.
	It probably has something to do with the writers in Hollywood, the people that are in charge of the decisions, how characters would be written, the producers that tell the writers how certain characters would be portrayed.
	I don't imagine a lot of them come from Stable homes with good positive male role models, and I think that reflects in their work It's probably why they are drawn to the work that they were Statistically speaking and I think it shows through All right, we're talking to Brandon Herrera.
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	Alright, so having grown up in Fayetteville, you must have a pretty... And doing what you do for a living, I mean, could you imagine?
	This guy makes money.
	He actually makes money to buy all the guns he wants.
	Making money is the idea, anyway.
	Yeah, looking at the things you've bought in the last six months, I don't think you're doing too shabbily, my friend, okay?
	So I think you're doing pretty well, despite the fascists at YouTube.
	Oops, did I say that?
	We've had our run-ins with them.
	They would like me to be doing probably a little worse than I'm doing currently.
	Yeah, we'll talk about what YouTube is doing a little bit later.
	But given what you do, which is like I think every man's dream.
	If you've got a pair of testicles, this is the dream job.
	This is the dream job.
	What for you, and let's get philosophical, let's get deep, let's think about the people you know and respect.
	What for you are the key definitional aspects of a man?
	What is it to be a man?
	What kind of characteristics for you define a real man?
	The thing, the character that is so under assault right now?
	Before I answer that one, I just wanted to thank you for being so inclusive in your definition.
	You're testicle owners.
	Not necessarily men, but owners of testicles want this job.
	Okay, that is good.
	Will you tweet that out?
	Because if you don't tweet that out, I will.
	Steal it.
	Because there's this lovely lady we've had on the show many times, Posie Parker, out of the UK, who is this hardcore anti-trans activist.
	She is like, women's rights matter, we're not having men, you know, in the locker rooms with young girls.
	And she got in trouble with the police because she put up a billboard that said, woman definition, adult female human.
	So, for men, it's just, we should have our own t-shirts and billboards that say, what did you say, testicle owner?
	Testicle owner.
	I like that!
	Let's do a joint t-shirt.
	Let's have a America First, Brandon Herrera, testicle owner t-shirt.
	Testicle owners club.
	You get a members only jacket?
	Hey, those jackets were cool 20 years ago.
	Alright, I'm writing this down.
	Alright, I'm writing this down.
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	And we will have our merch guys talk to each other.
	Alright, can you just be serious for like 30 seconds please, Brandon?
	I will try my best.
	Alright, what for you defines a man?
	Give us a few aspects.
	It depends on, by man I'm assuming you mean, like what characteristics are of a good man?
	Yeah, yeah, what's non-negotiable?
	To be a real man, to be an upstanding, decent man, what kind of characteristics do you have to demonstrate?
	There's a lot of the obvious ones that come to mind, like you have to be, you know, You know, strong, assertive, you know, all the, the, the, the features of, you know, the, the highly testosterone, you know, alpha male type, but one that goes overlooked by a lot of those types.
	Uh, something that my, my dad just.
	Just pressed into my head on my entire childhood, which is just, you have to be a man of your word.
	Like that's the only thing you're born with that you can absolutely keep and nobody can take from you is you have to be honest.
	And just, if you tell somebody you're going to do something, you're going to do it.
	Right.
	Does that mean that, because for some people it's hard to say no, and when you know you can't, it means saying that you can't.
	I guess.
	There's a lot, there's a big value too in learning to say no.
	I've learned that the, you know, the crazier our lives get.
	And if you're a media personality, it's bloody hard because when you're building a brand, you want to say yes to everything, right?
	Yeah, and there's also value in that.
	If you're just getting started, you want to jump on every opportunity you possibly can because you never know which one is going to be the one that takes you to the next place, to the next place.
	But once you've kind of established yourself, there's value in being able to say no, especially for your own mental health after a while.
	All right, give us some other ones.
	So being a man of your word, being a person of your word, what other things for you are non-negotiable characteristics of being a man?
	I guess being nice to the people that you were once.
	Meaning like when people are just starting out, you know, that's interesting.
	That's interesting.
	Unpack that.
	Unpack that.
	Explain that.
	So for example, I'll see every once in a while, I'll see somebody that is along the sickening journey that I took to get where I'm at.
	And You know, you see a little piece of yourself in there and you just kind of want to help them out.
	Like, you know what?
	I remember what it was like to be there.
	I remember being on the grind.
	I remember starting my first company.
	I remember all that stuff.
	And it's like, man, if I can give you a couple of pointers that save you three years of your life and a lot of stress, I'm obligated to do that.
	But, but you've been, I won't say overnight success, but you haven't exactly been doing, you know, the YouTube channel for decades.
	So, so you've been, I mean, how long have you been doing gun content as the AK guy?
	Uh, for this current channel since late 2014 is when I started.
	I didn't treat it like a job.
	Are you kidding?
	I didn't realize.
	I've been doing YouTube for about 13 years, I think, uh, in various forms.
	So I kind of, I learned the, the craft, I suppose, really early.
	I learned it in middle school and just kind of kept going with it in different channels, different ways.
	But I only started treating like a job about five years ago and that's about four Three or four years shy of when it actually started becoming a full-time job.
	All right, I'm gonna give you 50 seconds to think about it while I do something else, but a couple of things that you would say to that younger person that you recognize yourself in.
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	Give us a big piece of advice to somebody who wants to be their own boss, which is the dream, wants to provide content in whatever platform they may choose.
	Give us one of these words of wisdom, Brandon.
	So this is something that I actually have been able to pass on to somebody else and God, I hope he took my advice.
	This is probably the number one thing I wish I could go back in time, like five years and tell myself.
	Because everybody tells you, you know, you have to work hard, you have to grind, you have to, you know, you know, miss some sleep.
	Every now and again, you've got to really just work every waking hour you have to work.
	And I agree with that to a large degree, but I want to put like a little asterisk next to it that nobody ever tells you.
	Don't lose sleep and don't stress for no reason.
	If you're not being productive, Get some sleep.
	That's one thing I was not very good at.
	I felt guilty any time I wasn't working.
	In the very beginning, I'm like, man, it's either this or I don't know what I'm going to do.
	So you mean like burning it at both ends?
	Burning the candle at both ends because you felt, if you're not doing something, I'm not winning?
	Yeah.
	Anytime I'm awake that I could be, you know, watching a movie or playing video games or hanging with my friends, that could be time that I could be working on this YouTube thing, or I could be working on, cause I had the gun business going at the same time.
	And I was really just kind of, and I was doing real estate on the side part time.
	Like I was really just trying to make it work no matter what.
	And there were several like all nighters, all night, multiple all nighters in a row that I just felt like I had to succeed.
	And I wish I could go back and say like, man, slow down.
	Like if, If you're not being productive, or if the sleep that you're losing is making you make worse decisions the next day or whatever, just knock it off.
	Get eight hours of sleep if you need it, and just only put the work in when there's work to be done.
	Did you work that out by yourself just because you had to, or did somebody say, dude, just take eight hours?
	A lot of people were telling me that at the time.
	You get in your head and you think, they just don't get it.
	They're not as driven as I am.
	But in reality, if you're not being... Learn where to place your time.
	Like, time management is more important than how much time you chuck at a task.
	All right.
	Give me one more quick one.
	Oh, man, you're just... You're milking it out of me.
	I didn't have time to prep.
	I know!
	This is why it's fun!
	We're squeezing the stone, dude.
	For every overnight... And this is not mine, but I just believe it's very true.
	With every overnight success, Is half a decade of work that nobody paid attention to.
	So true.
	Everybody says that, oh, you're an overnight success.
	Like, no, you just, you just.
	I just did it.
	I just, I just did it with you.
	Like you've been doing it for like 13 years.
	Like.
	That's what brought it to my mind actually.
	Cause, and it's, it's, it's human nature, right?
	Like that's what you assume.
	It's like when I became aware of this person is when they began to exist in the public conscience.
	And this is one of... I'm gonna sound like an old bastard now.
	This is one of the biggest problems with the 20-something generation.
	I mean, they really think that success is a switch you flick and then it literally is overnight.
	And sorry guys, in Hungarian, I spent 15 years in Hungary and my parents were from Hungary.
	There's a phrase, which means chopping wood, splitting wood.
	And you have to do about a decade of in any field if you want to even start to get on the bottom rung.
	And anything else is a flash in the pan and it doesn't mean anything.
	So guys, listen to this individual.
	Make time to just switch off and relax and or just get some kip.
	And also, you got to do some wood splitting.
	There are no over... If somebody has an overnight success, I'll tell you something, it's like winning the lottery.
	That overnight success will last about a night, and then it's gone, and then it disappears because it's just a fad.
	We're talking to... Oh, this sign is so philosophical.
	Brandon Herrera, the AK guy.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President of the United States.
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	What, who have been the greatest influences to you as a child, as a young man, in your understanding of what it is to be a true man?
	We've had Jack Carr, who launched the series, saying it was the fictional heroes he read about in, you know, Cold War novels.
	We've had football coaches.
	We've had a certain teacher.
	Of course, for many people, if they're lucky, it is their father.
	Who was it for Brandon?
	A lot of that was my father.
	He was very much a man of principle, almost to a fault occasionally, where it didn't matter if something was a good idea.
	That was the thing that you do, because this is what men do.
	Or this is what he thought was right.
	Uh, and very rarely ever deviated from that.
	So I had a very good, uh, strong male influence growing up.
	Uh, also like, and as far as like a few years ago, I'll say maybe like four years ago, I would do a lot of reading.
	Like I would read a lot of nonfiction when I was very first started to get into like business and such.
	And I took an interest in.
	Psychology and stuff.
	And that's where I found out about Jordan Peterson and his 10 rules for life was probably one of the more influential books I've ever read.
	It's fan, fantastic book.
	If you're in the market for it.
	Especially if you're the kind of person that it's talking to which is a large chunk of the population I would highly recommend reading it.
	Yeah, it's fantastic.
	I'm sure you have.
	Yeah.
	No, he's There's a reason that he sold tens of millions of copies and when he goes on a speaking tour He'll fill any venue out there.
	So yeah, absolutely.
	I understand that.
	All right.
	What is the syllabus.
	We look at the next generation.
	We look at the boys.
	What do we need to be teaching young men?
	I'll tell you an anecdote I shared on the show last Friday.
	So I was away in Nashville on business to see Governor Huckabee for his show.
	And I get a phone call as I'm in Nashville from my son saying, Dad, I think somebody's broke into our home.
	My son, I'm going to be a little My wife is at a dinner downtown.
	There's a broken window.
	There's ransacked room.
	The guns have been pulled out of the closet.
	His jewelry, his valuables, his laptop are on the table.
	And we dealt with it, we dealt with it, but to see my son in the ring doorbell camera five minutes later as the squad cars were rolling up and he's got on his back his live, because I bought it for him it's not a fake one, Lord of the Rings sword that's five foot long and the
	Remington 870, Mariner, stainless 12 gauge, my wife keeps by the bed, you know, in his arms, telling the police, by the way, I'm armed, so don't shoot me.
	I think I did my job.
	I think my son's ready.
	He's got a syllabus that I've given over to him.
	What would be on your syllabus?
	What are the minimum things that, you know, a 10-year-old kid has to be told right now that is masculinity and that matters?
	I'm just impressed he was ready for hand-to-hand combat.
	That's incredible.
	He's 23 and he's 6'6", and he's a former D1 athlete.
	The sword was a nice added effort, but he can look after himself.
	I would be more afraid of him with the sword than the shotgun, I think.
	It's an interesting question.
	I think that it needs to be reiterated a lot at home because it's not being reiterated anywhere else that it is okay To have masculine values.
	And that doesn't mean what the media seems to think it does.
	Every time you hear of some sort of masculinity this, it's catcalling, it's rape culture, that's not what being a man is about.
	There's just a certain chivalrous honor code that doesn't have to be Toxic in expression, so to speak.
	But just what you said there, kind of, it's true, but it blows my mind that we have to reiterate that it's okay to be a man.
	I mean, how did we get here, Brandon?
	Well, I feel like it's just they've changed the definition of what being masculine is.
	And I think they're winning.
	The way they've always won, which is in definitions.
	They steal your language first.
	Right.
	And it's a shame.
	All right.
	So when you look at the last, for me, and I'd like you to respond to this for me, The last two years has been a real wake-up call because of how America was founded.
	For me, it's not a cliche.
	It was rugged individualism.
	It was the pioneer spirit.
	It was taking on the greatest empire the world has ever seen.
	And when I look at American response to COVID, the biggest lacuna, the biggest vacuum I see Is just a rampant lack of courage.
	Why it was, you know, one gym owner in New Jersey, one restaurant owner in California who says, screw you Fauci, I'm not closing down my business.
	How disturbed are you that there seems to be not an epidemic of a Chinese virus, but an epidemic of lack of courage?
	I don't know necessarily that there was.
	And that's the thing.
	I think it's, it's who we've allowed to control the conversation.
	That's good.
	Because I saw it a lot in individuals that I was around.
	I know all my boys still, we all worked in the shop through COVID.
	We basically called it for what it was.
	We quarantined for the first two weeks when they said, more or less, just to kind of see, okay, what is this thing?
	Once we realized, oh, okay, we looked at the data and we're like, oh, okay, so this is really nothing to be worried about.
	We went business as usual.
	And I know a lot of people that were like that.
	And if they weren't like that then, they kind of came around to it in the months to follow, especially when things started getting worse with the vaccine mandates and such.
	I mean, there's a reason why the unvaccinated rates are so high in America.
	Even with all of the pressure, all the political pressure, all of the employment pressure, there are people who were going to lose their entire jobs.
	There's people who did, out of principle.
	So what are you saying?
	Are you saying there was more courage than I think?
	Or are you saying... I think so.
	Okay, good.
	I think that there is, because the amount of people in this country that were willing to walk away from their sole means of providing for their family out of principle, that speaks volumes, because you don't need 50% of people to think the way you do.
	You need a very strong 5%.
	That's how 1776 happened.
	In fact, back then, it wasn't even 3%.
	Yes, the bumper sticker is cool.
	Latest studies show it was between 2% and 1.5%.
	1.5% of the colonial residents of the British Empire, in the Americas, that actually decided to fight the British.
	I like that.
	I need to get out of my stinking DC bubble more often and meet these people.
	I think I'm going to see them, along with you, in Shot Show imminently.
	We're talking to Brannon.
	I hope so.
	Yeah, we're going to have some fun.
	We're going to smoke cigars again on the floor of the casino.
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	All right, we're trying to get him back on the show because he was so much fun last time.
	We need to have him back for a longer chat.
	He is Kyle Rittenhouse, and he was on our Buddy Brandon show for an extended interview recently.
	Let's listen to that audio.
	Hunting with Kyle Rittenhouse, then make a movie with Alec Baldwin.
	Yeah!
	No, we can go hunting anytime you want!
	I don't think I'll ever make a movie with Alec.
	I don't want to make a movie with Alex Valdone.
	You know, I don't like getting shot in the chest particularly.
	No, not really.
	No.
	Yeah, muzzle discipline and trigger discipline.
	Not exactly his strong suit.
	That is a sample of the dark humor that is redolent on the AKGuys channel.
	Great interview.
	I think it's the longest kind of fun interview I've seen with Kyle Rittenhouse.
	We need to have him on the Manhood Hour because he demonstrated masculinity serving the community and then Protecting the vulnerable, that's why he was there.
	He's a great, for a guy his age, the way he comported himself in court, absolutely stunning.
	If you haven't seen that episode of the AK Guys show, you need to go and watch it after we've finished here on America First.
	Given he is the future, he is a young man, he is, you know, I think like 20 or 21, here's the last question.
	He's 19.
	What?
	Kyle is 19.
	He hasn't turned 20 yet?
	No, he's still a young buck.
	That's what blows my mind.
	Like, I have to remind myself in interactions with him, like, Jesus, this kid is only, he is only 19.
	That's incredible.
	That's incredible.
	All right.
	So let's talk about the future.
	Are you pessimistic or are you optimistic when it comes to the future of masculinity and manhood in our civilization, in our Republic, Brandon?
	Honestly, a little bit of both, if that makes sense.
	I don't think the direction as a whole for the country is good, but I see a resurgence in smaller circles of the ideas of traditional, traditional values, traditional masculinity.
	And that doesn't mean necessarily, and that's funny because that has repercussions for men too.
	Because people think traditional values, traditional gender roles, you know, what have you, they think woman belongs in the kitchen, do what I want, you know, house wench.
	That's not really the way it is.
	There's a lot that men have to do to hold up their end of the bargain.
	You have to be the protector, the provider.
	You have to be respectful.
	There's a lot of things that go along with that.
	And there's a lot of guys, I would only say the misogynist type, the chauvinist type, really only like one half of that.
	It's like, no, no, no.
	As a man, you also have your responsibilities.
	There's a lot to it.
	Bingo.
	All right, we're out of time.
	Sadly, we'll do this again or we'll do some kind of videos out of the range at SHOT Show.
	Is there any website, any place they can go for AK Guy swag?
	Shout it out now.
	Yeah, sure thing.
	It's Bunker Branding.
	If you go to the Influencer tab, we're there under the AK Guy.
	If you want to support the channel that way, but yeah, if you're into dark humor and firearm stuff, then my channel over Brandon Herrera on YouTube is, that's where we do it.
	But it's always a pleasure coming on, man.
	Oh, it's so much fun.
	Bunker Branding, correct?
	Yes, sir.
	Bunker branding and go-to-the-tab influencer aka guy.
	Because he's an influencer!
	He may be doing... I hate that word.
	Isn't it awful?
	I hate that.
	Celebrity influencer.
	I'm going to gag.
	It's so disgusting.
	We prefer content creator, I think, is our safe word.
	Yeah, content creator, even though that's a little bit sterile.
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