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He's been a complete, absolute disaster, and he has been the lead on making this happen, the border being the disaster that it is.
Let's make no mistake about it.
This could not be happening without Biden.
Biden and Mayorkas, they are the traffickers-in-chief right now.
The traffickers in chief.
That is Congressman Ronny Jackson, former physician to President Trump.
And I'm Sebastian Gorka, your host here on America First.
It is great to be back in the saddle.
I hope you had a blessed, blessed Thanksgiving and a long weekend.
The whole team is back.
It's shocking.
Everybody's here today.
We have so much to cover for you.
It looks like Elon Musk has declared war on Apple.
And it looks like the people of China have had enough with the communist regime that has lorded it over them since 1948.
Our number here to sound off on the issues of the day is 833-33 Gorka.
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First, let's deal with a story that maybe I shouldn't be talking about because it's kind of died a death.
I didn't even clear it with Mr. G. Does he trust me to talk about it?
He's going to leave that phone and he's going to tell me right now.
Mr. G in the Pre-show meeting.
We didn't discuss the infamous dinner at Mar-a-Lago.
What do you think?
Should I talk about it or not?
You got to.
I got to?
Alright, I have my permission.
I've got my green light.
So what happened?
It was reported, thanks to a surreptitious phone camera photograph.
It's a private club, guys.
You shouldn't be taking photographs in Mar-a-Lago.
Nobody does that.
Nobody takes selfies with the President.
Mar-a-Lago, am I right?
That President Trump had dinner with Kanye.
I don't care what he calls himself now.
Kanye West.
Who had in tow, in his entourage, that very peculiar individual, Milo Yiannopoulos.
And somebody I hoped we'd never have to mention again on my show.
An individual who is despicable, who probably has mental issues, who goes by the name of Nick Fuentes, who is a Holocaust denier, and who is the worst of the worst.
If there is a fringe of the conservative movement, It is the likes of Nick Fuentes.
And apparently it was tweeted out that Kanye West had dinner with President Trump at his private club in Palm Beach, along with Nick Fuentes and Milo Yiannopoulos.
Since then, the president has clarified the matter.
And he has stated that he was having dinner by himself when Kanye West came up to talk about his running, Kanye's running, for the presidency and had in tow with him none other than Milo Yiannopoulos and Nick Fuentes, the Holocaust denier.
Much hullabaloo has been made of this.
Individuals saying, oh my gosh, Trump had dinner with, well I don't know, he's a black guy so you can't call Kanye white supremacist, but with Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes.
Well, sitting at dinner and having somebody come up to you is a little bit different, isn't it?
But I think there's a better angle to all of this.
And Julie Kelly summarized it perfectly in a tweet of hers recently.
She said, and I'm just paraphrasing.
Darling, you know, you know, if I had the tweet in front of me, I'd read it completely accurately.
But she said something like, A dinner?
Really?
Are you serious guys?
Southern borders open.
Revolution breaking out in China.
War in Ukraine.
Oh, it was to do with the prisoners, I think.
She said something like, um, DOJ, FBI hunting down and imprisoning MAGA supporters.
And you're talking about dinner at Mar-a-Lago?
Now let me be clear here.
Nick Fuentes, if he's not psychotic, I mean, if he's not in control of his faculties, as far as I'm concerned, he will burn in hell.
Unless he repents.
Unless he apologizes.
For saying what he has said on his channels before they were cancelled.
For saying there's no way Hitler killed so many people and you couldn't even bake six million cookies that quickly.
He actually said that on a video.
He said you couldn't even bake six million cookies in an oven in six years.
So how did Hitler kill six million Jews?
This is how... Reprehensible.
Henous.
Filthy.
Just scum like Nick Fuentes.
How a young man, born in America, is that anti-Semitic?
Beggars belief.
It boggles my mind.
But despite that fact, when he fanboys out on President Trump at his club, being towed along by Kanye West, who likewise has clearly some psychological issues, I don't really care.
Because I know President Trump doesn't know Nick Fuentes from a hole in the ground.
And he was, because I know him, being polite to Kanye.
Why?
Because you know what Kanye did for all his reprehensible statements since then?
He went to the White House.
He sat in front of the Resolute Desk.
He put on a MAGA hat.
He embraced the America First, I'm not a victim, I love America ideology.
When as a black man, even a billionaire, but as a black man, not an easy thing to do.
Not an easy thing to do.
So, President Trump was being polite to a man he recognized.
But here's the issue.
I don't care.
Why?
Because what I really care about is that we have political prisoners rotting in moldy solitary cells right now within three miles, two and a half miles of where I'm sitting in Washington DC.
People who didn't kill anybody, didn't steal anything.
People who have no criminal record, people who were honorably discharged from the military, some of whom were cancer patients, denied their treatment simply because they stepped inside Congress on January the 6th, or didn't step inside Congress but were charged anyway with obstructing an official proceeding.
That's the problem in America, not who's having dinner at which table in Mar-a-Lago.
The problem is we have political prisoners in America.
The people of China are pushing back on the oppression.
We have freedom here, ostensibly, in America.
And the party that is being persecuted, or the members of which are being persecuted, is doing nothing.
God bless Ronny Jackson.
I hope they impeach, I hope they charge Mayorkas with aiding and abetting the cartels, because he and Biden have blood on their hands for the people who have already died in the last two years trying to get into the greatest nation on God's green earth.
Dinner at Mar-a-Lago?
I couldn't care less.
Political prisoners?
Two miles from this studio?
Yeah, that's what matters.
110,000 Americans no longer alive because of what China has smuggled into our country and they've overdosed on it.
That's what I care about.
How about you?
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Thank you.
Good stuff.
It's good to be back, that's for sure.
Yeah, don't go away for so long again, alright?
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Unless you bring lots of Christmas crack.
I actually have some here for you.
Not just for me.
For the whole team, yeah.
I already gave some to Geoff with a J and Geoff with a G. Oh, some have already received.
I see.
I see.
I'm saving the best for last.
Oh, nicely done.
Nicely.
Very sneaky.
The best slash biggest for last.
The biggest.
Of the portions, yes.
Alright, I gotta find this tweet from Julie.
I've got the Elon bedside.
Oh, show me.
Um, okay.
I need to know what that steampunk gun is.
I bet Razorfist knows what it is.
That one, yeah.
What?
Oh, goodness.
What is that?
It's from a game, I guess.
It looks a little bit like, um, Devil... What is the, um, Hellboy's gun.
Oh.
Alright, Skype one.
Oh, okay, you want the mics off?
Mike's off.
I I know Sebastian well.
Listen to him.
He's with us.
Thank you, Mr. President.
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All right, we have to keep on the cutting edge of news.
Allegedly this afternoon, 5.30 there will be a vote in the House.
It has already cleared the Senate regarding the Defense of Marriage Act, which has nothing to do with defending marriage at all.
And we are delighted to have with us somebody from an amazing organization.
We've partnered with them over the years.
True Freedom Fighters for the Truth.
It's the Alliance Defending Freedom and it's their senior counsel Greg Baylor.
Mr. Baylor, welcome to America First!
Hey, great to be with you, Sebastian.
Now, we've seen this before.
We've seen the mistitling of acts to make lull people into a false sense of security.
Oh, defending marriage, that's great.
That must be like Obama's Affordable Health Care Act, which was the opposite.
So, tell us what this act is truly about and what danger it represents to freedom of conscience in America.
Sure.
The deceptively named Respect for Marriage Act disrespects the American people and threatens their fundamental freedoms.
Supporters of the bill claim that it merely codifies the same-sex marriage, the right to which was created, invented by the Supreme Court, back in 2015.
But in fact, it does much, much more than that.
It's vague language.
The creation of new enforcement mechanisms poses genuine and serious threats to religious organizations and individuals.
Can you give us concrete examples?
If you're a religious organization, what is the threat that if this act goes into force, if it isn't challenged in the court system, how could it affect the freedoms of individual Americans?
Yeah, the bill would create a new obligation on those who are acting in partnership with the government to recognize same-sex marriage.
Now, what kinds of organizations most typically partner with government?
Faith-based adoption placement and foster placement agencies.
Many of them are faith-based.
Many of them follow their beliefs that marriage is the union between one man and one woman.
If they follow that view and they're working closely with the government, we can expect to see lawsuits against them under the Respect for Marriage Act.
So we are talking about the targeting of organizations because of their religious belief?
Well, that's exactly right.
They didn't have to impose this obligation on non-governmental organizations, but they did.
And there's another threat that's even more broad.
There's a grave concern that the Internal Revenue Service will point to this bill and say, hey, a nonprofit that's acting inconsistently with public policy, as identified in the Respect for Marriage Act, is not a charitable organization and thus ought to lose its tax-exempt status.
We're talking about houses of worship, religious social service agencies, and faith-based educational institutions.
So the implications are potentially very broad.
Right.
So the vote, the deceptively titled Defense of Marriage Act has already passed in the Senate.
It has to clear the House today.
They still have the majority.
What happens, Greg, if it goes the wrong way?
What is left for people who believe in freedom of conscience to do in America?
Well, we're hoping today that the vote that actually is going to occur in the Senate will create an opportunity for the Senate to consider some amendments.
I got that wrong there.
So has it passed in the House?
Yes, it passed in the House the day after it was introduced back in July.
It was rushed through.
A number of Republicans voted for it, probably not knowing exactly the ramifications.
And now we're in the Senate, and there's a consideration of a substitute bill that some claim respects religious liberty, but in our view, absolutely does not.
And senators like Mike Lee and Senator Lankford and Senator Rubio have proposed amendments.
But we need votes.
We need the votes.
We need senators, Republicans, who voted yes on the first cloture vote, as they call it, the technical terms.
So you're talking to three million people across the country right now, Greg.
What can they do?
What should they do in the next three hours?
To allow for the consideration of these amendments, particularly the one from Senator Lee, which would provide real protections for religious liberty.
It's kind of astonishing that those who support the bill and claim it protects religious liberty are unwilling to even allow this amendment to be considered.
So we're thinking specifically of the 12 Republicans, because we don't think Democrats are going to change their mind.
The 12 Republicans who voted for cloture to end debate on the original version of the bill, some of them need to change course and allow to vote differently this time and allow amendments to be considered.
So is the ADF, is the version recommended by Senator Lee, would you be satisfied with that?
We would still oppose the bill.
We don't think it's the business of the federal government to codify same-sex marriage.
There's a reason why marriage has been an institution defined as the union of one man and one woman literally for millennia, and we don't think that the Congress should reinforce or cement the mistake that the court made.
But if the bill's going to pass, it should be less bad, and certainly the Lee Amendment would make it less of a threat to religious liberty than it is right now.
Alright guys, you've got two hours.
Call your senator right now.
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All right, Greg.
All right.
Mics are back on.
Alright.
title for that one give me a title hmm so Something about to do with religious freedom.
The left's latest attack on our religious liberties.
Yeah, that's good.
The left's latest attack on our religious liberties.
You got it.
Oh, do we have the b-roll of China, Geoff?
I have it from your Instagram.
Can you show it to me?
Playback 2.
It's been muted, so it can be b-roll.
How long is it?
It is a minute and thirty-four.
Alright, um... You want to use that for Goldman, you said?
In the second hour?
No, I will, but I want to use some of it now.
So come in with cut three.
And right after that, I'll tee up that, and just play it for as long as I'm talking, and then we'll go to calls.
Okay.
As B-roll while you're talking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And coming in with cut three.
And so, no liner, Alex?
No liner.
Alright.
Who saw the interview with Brandon Cuddy?
Did you see it, Alex?
Yes.
How was it?
It was good.
He talked about TikTok and the Chinese cell phone company.
I don't know how to pronounce the name.
Starts with an H. Huawei?
Huawei.
90 seconds.
I sent you a video.
I'd like to use this ad, Jeff, if you can.
It's from some crazy guy called Alex.
He says he's working on it.
All right.
45 seconds.
I'm in with cut three, no liner.
I'm in with cut three, no liner.
I'm in with cut three, no liner. no liner.
What happens is that if you look at the anti-China approach that clearly the Trump administration had right from the very beginning, and the accusatory nature, the Chinese are going to flinch back and say, no, I'm sorry, we're not going to talk to you about it, which is not correct.
But they're not talking to the Biden administration about it either.
Exactly.
I think that horse is out of the barn, and they're very suspicious of anybody trying to accuse them.
Oh, it's our fault!
I should have been So knowledgeable of that fact.
China was a normal country, but we triggered China.
I guess now that President Trump's been out of office, that's the reason that we're having historic, utterly historic demonstrations.
I don't think we've seen anything like this since Tiananmen Square in 1989.
This is a video I asked my Team member John put on my account last night.
It has exploded.
It's reached more than, I don't know, 150,000 people in a few hours.
700 comments.
I never get something like that on Instagram because of the suppression.
And it's just, look at these people.
They're holding up blank pieces of paper.
Why?
Because they're saying this is what we're allowed to say in China.
It's a very, very clever, clever demonstration.
And we're seeing shop owners, we're seeing average citizens remove barricades.
New COVID barricades.
Look at this.
Unbelievable.
The people who have been cowed since 1949 by the communists have had enough.
This time, it's in response to the COVID lockdown.
But it doesn't matter what the ignition spark is.
People who have not resisted once for 80 years are now pushing back.
Truly stunning.
We'll talk to one of the very, very best.
Spengler!
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Line one, Colorado.
Nancy, Nancy, welcome to America First.
Happy Monday.
Happy Monday to you, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
I had a merch store idea for you.
Yes.
To help with the J6 prisoners.
Thank you.
Um, in the late 60s, there was POW, MIA bracelets, kind of decreased the awareness of the plight of Americans.
Oh, that's good.
That's good.
That's good.
Okay.
Carry on, Nancy.
Carry on.
It was increased awareness of the plight of the American prisoners or missing in Vietnam.
Yes.
And we all had them, it seemed like back then, to honor those people, but maybe It could do something to keep that awareness.
Oh, my gosh, Nancy.
I love it.
Now, the M.I.A.
P.O.W.
ones, they were black aluminum with the names carved in that were like, you know, shiny silver.
What do you think the design should be for these same kind of black black silver on black or what?
Whatever you think will work.
I mean, I think, yes, our black On silver, either one, to get the idea.
You're a genius.
Stay on the line.
We need to say thank you.
Let's give Nancy one of our FBI t-shirts, because that is... I'm doing... I'm sorry.
I am doing that.
That is amazing.
We could raise funds for the J6 political prisoners.
My gosh, that's why you are the best.
That's why you, our listeners, are the very, very best.
Let's go to Phil in Philly.
Line two.
Hey, Phil.
Hey, Dr. G, I love those bracelets.
But my comment is for, I know Terry Lake's coming on your show this week.
No, no, no, no, no.
She's hosting for me when I'm in Israel next week.
She's guest hosting.
Okay, okay.
When your federal constitutional rights are violated, it's a constitutional question for a federal court.
And from what, I mean, I don't know what Mrs. Lake is doing about filing, but it takes two people to file a class action suit.
Just two.
So two of the constituents said, I could not vote because those machines were down.
I stood there for four hours.
They are representing a similar class.
And if they can take a month to count or not certify, then a federal judge can give these people at least five days to get back to the poll and submit a paper ballot.
Yeah, she is.
I spoke to her over the weekend.
She's dropped two smaller suits.
She's going to drop a very, very big suit imminently.
But I love your idea, Phil.
Yes, there should be a class action.
It should be brought by many, many people in Arizona who just looked at the incompetence, if not much worse.
Brilliant, Phil.
Let's go to Johnny, Los Angeles, line three.
Hey, Johnny.
Hello, Dr. G. Hey.
So happy to be on your show.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Dr. G, I have two thoughts for you about, you've often said, conservatives have problems communicating and they don't always get the story straight.
The Democrats are much better.
I have two great examples on how, on abortion and green energy, how we can turn their talking points against them.
Alright, stay on the line, stay on the line.
Can you stay on the line for a minute?
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Uh, I'm sorry.
Did you see the new social media buffer that Casio sent this morning?
Uh, I did not receive that.
Oh.
Which email did you send it to?
He sent it.
I'll re-send it.
Yeah, can you forward it to my personal?
I think that might have been the reason why I didn't see it.
Alright, yes, I will throw that in there right away.
Once I get it.
Okay.
And then I have the new video of the new Relief Factor ad.
We'll be using that instead.
Okay, is that in Gravian or...?
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Hang on a second.
Alrighty.
The one with the dog?
Yeah, he sent it to you.
He sent it to... Oh, he sent it to your work.
No.
He sent it to your work one, yeah.
Okay.
Alright.
That video you just sent me, do you want the whole thing?
It's long, right?
How long is it?
Like a minute forty-five.
How long?
A minute forty-five.
Yeah.
Alright.
Oh, okay.
There it is.
Alright, thank you.
And we're doing a PhD here?
We are.
PhD, of course.
You can block the lines, guys.
Blocking the lines.
All right, here we go.
It's... I think it's both ads, Eric.
All you need to do is download the... First one.
The Relief Factor one.
Okay, yeah.
Oh, I gotta upload that to Gravy, and that'll take a bit, but I will have that... Okay.
Should have that ready by the second hour.
Right.
It's in... I emailed it.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Grab the new social media thing while I'm at it.
When do you want to use those Elon, uh, pictures?
Oh, um, probably in the A block.
The A block.
Alrighty.
50 seconds.
Oh, and for, for, uh, Goldman, I'm going to want that cut from last week, guys.
Well, Karl Schwab said China's a good model.
Okay.
Can we find that?
We'll try.
Oh, China's a model.
Okay, I think I found it.
Throw it in here as Cut9.
Cut now.
Mark's off.
Cut now.
Cut now.
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Two examples for us on issues we could communicate better.
Johnny, fire away.
Yes.
The one on abortion, I read a great report this past week that just blows away the talking points of the left.
Because if you listen to them, you think, all Americans support abortion except the crazy people on the right.
This report said, in fact, 70% of Americans oppose abortion if it's in the third trimester.
Correct.
And you don't hear that enough.
And you certainly don't hear that from Republican candidates.
No, Republican candidates don't want to talk about abortion.
They're scared.
Exactly.
And you could easily turn that around and say, OK, Mr. Democrat, so you're for abortion up to eight months and three weeks.
Anything goes.
And that's the dichotomy that's wrong with the way we communicate.
Right, next.
Next topic.
Yes, on energy, I think your audience knows that natural gas is actually quite clean, and compared to coal, it's 80% cleaner.
Yeah.
The shocking report I saw said, you know, if India changed from coal Okay, so what are you saying we should say?
The world would far exceed the Paris Accords.
Just on end.
Forget China.
Just India.
Okay.
So what are you saying we should say?
Blame the Indians?
No.
I'm saying we should have them shift to natural gas, LNG.
We could even supply it.
But, of course, the greenies won't allow it because LNG is a fossil fuel.
And even though it's 80% cleaner, it reminds me of Ronald Reagan.
He said, if I can get 80% in a deal, I'm gonna take it.
You're losing me.
So what is it that the GOP should talk about India switching to American gas?
Is that the talking point?
American gas or any gas.
I don't care where it comes from, but... Do you think the average voter cares about how India is using energy?
Uh, maybe not, but... Well, that's a problem.
Well, it would get a lot of independents that believe, okay, I'm being smoked here by the Democrats if they're not considering doing an 80% cleaner type of energy.
Yeah, I don't think talking about Indian use of energy is a kind of vote winner, even with independents.
I mean, look at what the Biden administration has just done, Johnny.
They have allowed Chevron to drill for oil in Venezuela.
I mean, that's a far more effective talking point.
You're not allowed to drill for oil in America, but you're allowed to drill for oil in Venezuela.
Yes, I'm with you 100%, but give me one more shot and I'll just say, If India did this, we wouldn't have to spend trillions of dollars on all their toys that they want to push in America.
No, I get that, but I just don't think the average voter gives a fig about what Indians are doing when it comes to energy.
Right?
It's not at the top of their, oh my gosh, what's India doing about energy, right?
See what I mean?
But I appreciate your input.
Thank you, Johnny.
Let's go to Brooklyn, Judy, line four.
Hey, I love the bracelet.
Yeah, I love the bracelet idea, and I wish it would be in red, white, and blue colors.
That's what I would love.
And you know what?
Talking about red, white, and blue, USA all the way.
I'm so excited.
I heard the news that they're up against, together with Iran, they might win the whole thing, right?
Yeah, but did you see what the coach for the USA soccer team did?
No, what did he do?
He went on a pitch.
In a team shirt from Nike that had just this word on it.
It had states.
States.
Do you understand?
Tell me.
Because I wasn't watching.
Because we're not united They removed the word United.
It was like a BLM shirt.
It had the word States.
No flag, no nothing.
Just Nike and States to say that we are not united.
That's what the US coach of our team did.
On the pitch.
That's disgusting.
That's disgusting.
But I still want USA to win.
I just do.
But anyways, okay.
I want to tell you something else.
I was thinking about something, and I wonder if you understand what I'm going to say here.
I trust President Trump explicitly, so guess what?
If he's sitting down with those two idiots, and if that gets him more votes, more power to Donald Trump, I don't care.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
In other words, there are certain sick people out there, and they'll build him this, oh yeah, he loves Kanye, he loves, and the truth is, President Trump is smarter than that, you understand?
He probably speaks to them and wants to see what they are all about, and it's not going to change how President Trump is, because President Trump is a very special person.
But if this gets some more votes, I really don't care.
Look, I tell you what I think.
I wasn't there.
I was at Mar-a-Lago, you know, the week before.
He was just being polite.
He was just being hospitable.
And the fact that, you know, this Oxygen Thief Fuentes has now inveigled himself around the entourage of Kanye West.
It says a lot about Kanye West.
In fact, it says more about Kanye West than it does say anything about President Trump.
Thank you, Judy.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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Elon.
He's just so great, like he just gets better and better.
He's getting a little bit spicy spicy It's so surreal seeing President Trump's Twitter account back.
It's great.
Yeah, but he's not using it.
I think you'll start using it once the election kick- when the campaign kicks into high gear.
What is that thing Apple or Google disabled in China before the recent um...
Uh...
Like a security feature or something?
No, some kind of communications feature.
They were helping the regime.
Huh.
Not up to date on that one.
Cut ten, alright.
That video's cut ten, the one you sent.
Okay, good.
Okay.
30 seconds. 30 seconds.
No, not me.
The most awesome voice in talk radio.
No, not me.
Dr. G. Elon Musk is driving them insane.
He just posted a picture of his bedside table.
First thing that, you know, shocked me.
I have weapons in my bedroom, of course, because I'm into guns.
He's got two handguns on his bedside table and four cans of Diet Coke.
No books!
Where are the books, dude?
I thought you're a brainiac.
I want to see what you're reading.
That's what I tweeted at him.
However, he's got a very nice Dueling pistol with a painting of Washington in the top of the box for the pistol.
And then go to the next shot.
The other handgun, missing a trigger, strangely.
Did you break it, Mr. Musk?
It's some kind of steampunk device.
I need somebody to... I bet Razorfist could identify what that gun is for us.
I bet it's from some computer game.
But the left have gone insane!
Not only that, he's just tweeted out the following.
God bless Elon.
This is about Apple and Tim Cook.
Apple has mostly stopped advertising on Twitter.
Do they hate free speech in America?
What's going on here, Tim Cook?
He's going to war with Apple.
Oh, it's gonna get spicy.
Let's go back to your calls.
Glenn, Phoenix, Arizona.
Welcome to America First.
Yes sir, so I just had a question.
A couple years ago, before Donald Trump got out of office, I had asked you about the subversive people that were in his administration, like General Mattis, General Kelly, Bill Barr.
And so, you just made a comment a little bit ago about Kanye West, and the fact that Kanye West would have a disgusting piece of instrument coming around him, that I'm
I'm weary that Trump might have people around him that just don't have his best interest, and this is another example, that Kanye West would even have a disgusting, heinous pile of trash around him like that, and then bring them to Mar-a-Lago, it says more about Kanye West, but I'm concerned that Trump would have, the fact that Trump would have anybody like this in his orbit.
I just wanted to get your take on it.
Yeah, I don't know what you mean in your orbit.
I mean, it is a club.
It's a dining room.
So having somebody come up to your table doesn't mean they're in your orbit.
Kanye West doesn't work for President Trump.
But, you know, I share your concern.
I want to see a very serious individual.
We had this discussion with Joe and Victoria last week.
I want to see a very serious kind of James Baker individual.
As the President's Chief of Staff, not only once he's back in the White House if we do what is required, but right now.
I just don't see that person.
Who is the person who is the eminence grise, the advisor to President Trump?
I want to see somebody who's serious and who is an effective patriotic gatekeeper.
Right now, I don't know who that is.
Thank you, Glenn.
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This hour, we're going to talk about the amazing events occurring in China.
Could the regime be in trouble?
And what is Elon Musk doing at Twitter?
Can he survive?
Can he turn it around and make it a free speech platform?
In just an hour and 25 minutes, allegedly, there will be a vote in the Senate to pass the cloture of the Defense of Marriage Act, which is actually an assault.
on religious freedoms in America.
What do we do when they're coming after our religious freedoms?
What do we do when they hire 86,000 new agents for the IRS to clamp down on conservatives just like they did in the Lois Lerner scandal under Obama?
Well, somebody on my team who will go nameless, Alex, sent me this video of a pastor who He's got a certain answer to this question of government persecution and threats to 501c3 non-profit status of churches.
It's rather good.
I'm going to play the whole cut.
Play it.
So guess what I did this week?
I got an attorney.
And I dissolved our stinking 501c3 in this church because the government ain't gonna tell me what I can and what I can't say.
So IRS, we don't need your stupid tax-exempt status.
You can put it in a bag and burn it in your front yard for all we care.
I renounce 501c3 communism in this church!
So we'll say what we want to, Skippy Lou!
And the IRS and the FBI and everybody we've been turned into can eat my dirty socks on live TV!
I revoke our 501c3 status in IRS.
We don't give two flips what you think about it.
We're squeaky clean, give 90% of our money away and we ain't afraid of you because this is America and we got a constitutional right to say what needs to be said.
Even when it chaps your hide, it makes you feel bad about yourself.
So put me in the news again!
Get mad again!
Send your protesters again!
Threaten to kill me again!
I ain't stopping!
I ain't quitting!
I ain't gonna back up, pack up, slack up, or shut up until I've been taken up by the glory of God!
As a matter of fact, I'm just getting started!
I'm just getting started!
I don't know... Alex, who is that pastor?
That's Pastor Greg Locke in Tennessee.
Greg Lott in Tennessee.
For those of you who aren't watching on video, he sounds like, you know, some kind of Baptist preacher from the South, but that's a white pastor.
And I don't know who Skippy Lou is, but I love that.
I'm going to do whatever I want, Skippy Lou.
We need more of that kind of attitude in America.
Why?
Because they're not going to give up.
They're coming back.
Here's Fauci talking about the pandemic isn't over.
Cut it.
Is this country ready for another pandemic?
And are we still in the one we have not, that we've been talking about?
Well, we certainly are still in it.
I think you just need to look at the numbers.
We're still having between three and four hundred deaths per day.
So I think the idea that, forget it, this is over, it isn't.
We're going into the winter right now.
That's this weekend.
That's stunning.
300 deaths a day.
Of who exactly?
Is it 400 pound people?
Is it people who are 96 years old?
He says he's retiring.
He's getting out of the way before he's subpoenaed by Congress.
But still selling the fact that we've got a pandemic.
What is your response going to be?
What happens when they shut down or try to shut down the schools again?
So I had a very sobering discussion with three young gentlemen over Thanksgiving.
One of them is the scion of a very, very famous conservative family in America.
And I was shocked by what all three of them said.
None of them voted in the midterm elections.
Now, I get it.
Midterm elections.
Not exciting.
Not sexy.
It's not like a presidential election.
Doesn't have the fanfare.
It's your local candidate.
But the one of them, who's from a very famous conservative family, said, and we live in the same part of Northern Virginia, he asked me and my wife, I don't even know who my candidate was.
Now, what does that mean?
I pushed back on him.
I was relatively gentle.
But his response to me saying, What do you mean, you don't know who your candidate is?
He said, The GOP, and this is a guy who is an avowed conservative, he's a young, young man, he's graduated college, doing his first job, works super hard, conservative values, a patriot.
He said the following, the GOP didn't do enough work to reach out to me.
Now, at one level, and I actually said this to him, I thought, What do you mean didn't do enough work to reach out to you?
Are you an entitled millennial or Gen Z-er that has to be spoon-fed information?
Somebody has to bring the ballot to you and say, hey, this is the Republican one.
Can you tick this box here?
Which is what the Democrats do.
Or if you believe in America, if you understand, and I actually said this, that people have died.
Lots of people have died for you to have the possibility to choose your own government.
This is exactly what the people of China right now are risking imprisonment and death protesting in favor for.
To have the right to choose their government.
The idea that the political parties have to come to you but it's an election year.
Surely if you're a Adult?
Shouldn't you be able to work out for yourself maybe in five minutes?
Maybe thirty minutes tops?
Who is the candidate in your district that wants your vote?
Whether they deserve it?
Whether they've made a cogent argument in the face of the Democrat opponent?
So here I just raise the question for you.
I don't know how old you are.
Radio skews to an older demographic.
I get it, but we're on video, we're on social media as well.
I'd be curious to hear from you about how the young around you voted, especially those who identify themselves as conservatives, and whether they voted at all.
And if they didn't, What does that mean for us?
What is incumbent upon us?
Did we fail?
Should I have... I mean, I've had cigars with these boys multiple times in the last six months.
Till, you know, the wee hours of the morning.
Should I have asked them, hey, what do you think of this candidate?
Or have they convinced you?
Or should I... Should I be the one walking them through this field of candidates?
All right, let's take a call from one of our sagacious listeners.
Let's go to the West Coast.
Let's go to Los Angeles.
Don, happy Monday!
Oh, Dr. G, happy post-Thanksgiving, merry pre-Christmas.
Thank you.
What brings you to our show today, Don?
Well, real quickly, I heard what you said about the whole thing with Trump and Kanye and this bozo.
And the important thing, man, just got to hit him in the teeth.
Three quick things.
Number one, tell him, Mr. Trump Put in the Abraham Accords, he's the most pro-Israel president in history.
The idea that he's an anti-Semite with his daughter and son-in-law Orthodox Jews, you've got to be smoking crack cocaine.
Number two, Nancy Pelosi, that horrible witch, she's on the cover of magazines with the S.Q.U.A.D., the most vicious, virulent anti-Semites on earth, and not a word.
Mr. Obama has a picture with And David, Duke, and Farrakhan sent Ilhan Omar love emojis after one of our antisemitic rants.
So, as the Lord Jesus, our Savior, the God who walked among us, said, And don't forget, Don, that photograph of Obama and Farrakhan was deep-sixed for six years.
The photographer was told not to release it, lest Obama be identified with that awful, awful black supremacist and anti-Semite.
Thank you, Don.
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It's easy to get President Trump on the show.
But we're delighted whenever he deigns to appear with us.
He is the co-founder of that superb website, TheFederalist.com.
Sean Davis, welcome back to America First.
Thank you for having me.
All right, so I went to your Twitter feed earlier today, and I saw you retweet one of Elon Musk's recent posts.
It's Pepe the Frog smoking a cigar, and it says, I don't care about this particular psy-op, honestly.
Are you surprised that Elon Musk is retweeting Pepe the Frog?
Yeah, a little pleasantly surprised.
I was amused by it.
I guess one of the perks that comes with being the richest man on Earth is that you're able to just take it in stride when all the major trillion-dollar corporations on Earth come at you, like Apple or Facebook or all of them.
So yeah, I think it's a good sign.
I will say, though, that I'm less bullish on Musk than everyone else, because he, as of yet, hasn't done anything to nuke the algorithmic shadowbanning of people based on politics, and I'd really like to see him tackle that going forward.
Didn't he promise to at least reveal the algorithms if he bought Twitter?
He did a couple months ago, and then in the last week or two, he sent out a tweet saying he believed in freedom of speech, not freedom of reach, and he was going to continue if people used hate speech or things to throttle them and deny them an audience.
And that makes me a little sad because, you know, what is hate speech?
To the little wokes that used to run that operation, hate speech was saying something like, boys and girls are different.
Right.
Do you think, however, that it is a good sign that he's made all the right enemies in the last five months?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I think it's great that he allowed Trump, the 45th president of the United States, to come back, even if Trump chooses not to tweet.
That was an abomination that had ever happened.
I like that he has announced what appears to be what he called an amnesty for suspended or banned accounts to bring them back.
But me being who I am, I don't want just half a loaf, I want the whole loaf when it comes to free speech.
So I want people who are banned for speech, who are throttled for speech, I want all that erased.
Half measures to me aren't enough.
How significant do you think it is that he's called out Apple and Tim Cook by name for their suppression of free speech by not advertising on Twitter?
How big do you think that is?
Well, so that one, that one's interesting.
I think it's, it's interesting, but I think there's more going on with this Apple battle than just free speech.
I think there is this fee that Apple charges through its App Store.
You know, Apple's got this big monopoly on who gets to have anything in the store.
And they use that to extract rents from people in the form of a 30% tax.
And I think there's a battle over that going on with Apple saying, no, we want 30 percent of these new eight dollar subscriptions coming in because it's being done through the Apple store.
You're subscribing through the Apple store.
I actually think that's the real battle that they're fighting.
And and Elon may just be leaning into the free speech thing because it's convenient and helpful for him right now.
But I think money is at the root of that issue.
So.
Sneaky.
What about this latest report that Apple, prior to the current demonstrations in China, restricted their AirDrop file sharing service only inside China to make it harder for protesters to share files?
Not surprising at all.
Apple is made in China.
It's made with slave labor.
They depend upon forced labor and slavery in China in order to make the things that they make and sell them for the price that they sell it at.
So, you know, Apple, it may be located in America, but like so many companies now, it's not an American company.
It's the company that seems to exist to serve China, do whatever it wants, since or however it wants.
So while it was disappointing to see them do that, it was one of the least surprising things I've ever seen.
Of course they're going to kowtow to the country that makes possible their massive profits and their manufacturing operations.
And the fact that the truly historic events we're witnessing on the streets of China are basically, it's as if they're not occurring as far as the mainstream media is concerned, Sean?
Yeah, the media is having a tough time right now, because what China is doing is no different than what China did a year or two ago with the initial COVID lockdown.
It's no different than what people like Fauci and a bunch of people in the corrupt corporate media said the U.S.
should be doing.
Remember, these people said the U.S.
should have modeled its COVID response after China.
So I think the media is in a real pickle now, where they probably, you know, in their hearts, side with the people who are being burned alive by the Communist Chinese.
But at the same time, they don't want to go and criticize the same government that they lauded not all that long ago for doing this exact same thing over COVID.
Yeah, yeah.
We had, what was it, Karl Schwab last week say, China is such an admirable model for other countries to emulate.
Absolutely shocking.
Last question.
We opened the show with a cut from Congressman Ronny Jackson about how we have to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas.
We have to get very serious in the new Congress.
You're rather outspoken on your Twitter feed.
You can follow him at SeanMDav.
Do you have any expectation Before the election, I think when a lot of us were expecting maybe a bigger majority, I had higher hopes.
Right now, you know, they're looking at maybe a nine seat majority at the most.
Even if they wanted to be super aggressive, which I don't believe is true, because I've been alive for the past 20 years and I watch what happens when Republicans take charge.
All the things they promise, suddenly, you know, they can't find the courage to do.
But I think the vote margins now are going to make anything that's all that meaningful really, really difficult to do.
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Have a very, very Merry Christmas.
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It was Raiders we did today, right?
Yes.
And the other two, I believe.
We did, because there is no fourth one.
You know, here's the thing, too.
I look back on it, and this may just be a result of circumstance.
When you compare four to the distant sequels we get now, like Jurassic World movies, the Star Wars sequels, Independence Day 2, Terminator 6, Crystal Skull does not insult the series the way, like, these new movies do.
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All right, so what is happening in China?
Dribs and drabs, kind of leaking out of the country.
I asked my team member, John, to post Just a clip of some of the videos coming out of China last night.
He did, and it was a record-breaking post on our feed.
Let's look at my Instagram feed.
Just footage of protesters.
Right now, that one post has reached 156,000 accounts.
Wow.
It's had, I've never seen this, 800 comments.
800 comments in just a couple of hours.
Why is that what's really going on?
Let's talk to the man who knows.
He's the person we rely upon when it comes to China.
He's the author most recently of You Will Be Assimilated, China's Plan to Sinoform the World.
He's the author of the Spengler Column in the Asia Times.
David P. Goldman!
Welcome back to America First.
Dr. Gorka, what a great pleasure and privilege it is to be here with you.
Thank you.
So let's start with the basics.
We see some protests from Wuhan itself.
Where are these protests happening?
Are they localized?
Are they disparate?
What kind of spread across China are we talking about?
The spearhead of the protest is the young Chinese elite.
Tsinghua University, at the center of Tsinghua, is like China's Stanford.
This is the top tenth of one percent of China's university entrants, the future leaders, and they've told Xi Jinping and the Communist Party, you bungled this, you've done a terrible job, and we demand a change in policy.
Some have called for Xi to step down.
He won't.
But when we're talking about they're demanding a change, right now this is focused on COVID policies and renewed lockdowns.
It's very specific, is it not?
It is, and there will be a change.
You see all of the COVID, the mRNA vaccine stocks up about 10% today because China will shortly Put it in order for several hundred million doses a year and do, for all of China, what they did in Hong Kong, which is vaccinate 80% of the people and then treat COVID as an endemic illness as opposed to a killer pandemic.
They'll trade off a certain amount of deaths and hospitalizations for lifting the vaccine.
Xi Jinping will, in Chinese emperor style, blame provincial officials, fire some scapegoats, put a few people in jail, And try to put himself in front of the movement for change.
It's his old tactic and it's usually worked in the past.
Now, in addition to the incredible footage of the youth holding up these blank pages saying, this is what we're allowed to say in Xi's China, we're also hearing these horrific reports of people being welded into their homes.
Can we believe these reports?
Is this actually happening, David?
There has been an incredible amount of mismanagement and buggling and cruelty associated with the lockdown policy, particularly at the provincial level.
Shanxi province is probably where you'll see heads roll, and the local Communist Party, also probably Xinjiang.
So it's easy to believe almost anything, but The basic problem is that after its initial success in 2020, with slower-transmitting variants of the virus, the Communist Party got cocky and believed that it had the situation under control.
With the faster-moving variants, it found it didn't have anything under control, and it had the worst of both worlds.
It had cruel and heated lockdowns and a very high rate of infection.
When I say a high rate of infection, They've got, what, 35,000 or so active cases in China.
That compares to 70,000 in Korea, with a tiny fraction of its population.
But even so, it's been a huge black eye for the Chinese government, and Xi is going to have to dance pretty fast to get around this.
All right, we have to ask you what the further ramifications are.
We're talking to David P. Goldman.
He is the columnist of the Spengler column in the Asia Times.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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I mean, this is significant, David, David, is it not?
If this is, you know, the Harvard or the Stanford of China, this is a big deal.
It is a huge repudiation of the regime, which is richly deserved because if any policy was ever bungled, it's zero COVID.
Right.
She has an opportunity here, Sebastian, because, remember, he came out of the 20th Party Congress.
He threw out the old leadership.
He put in his own people, including some very clever guys.
Lee Chang, the new premier, is Elon Musk's BFF in China, the man who helped him build the 350,000-year Tesla.
Car plant.
So, what I believe Xi will do, what we're told he will do, is to say, well, we fired those guys, that's the old guard, we're coming in with a new broom and a new team, and we're going to do this Hong Kong style, as opposed to the old way, and try to win back the support of the young elite.
Whether he succeeds or not, of course, remains to be seen, but I think it would be Exaggerated to think of this as the beginning of a revolution.
It's a very effective protest against a very bad policy, but it's still, as you pointed out, narrowly focused on COVID.
And the idea that they, you know, with these empty sheets, they're talking about freedom of speech.
They're going beyond COVID.
Is that just a peculiarity of the moment?
I think the young generation of China is very frustrated with the Repressive atmosphere, and they will push for more expression.
Remember Tiananmen Square, although it was repressed brutally, was a huge success.
The students won the right to travel abroad to study abroad.
An enormous amount of freedoms were granted by Deng Xiaoping after the 1989 protests, and I think that's exactly what this government will do.
It will make certain concessions to try to keep itself in power without allowing the pot to boil over.
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David, you say that, well, we were discussing this in the break, when it comes to the recent demonstrations, they will be limited, there will be scapegoating to local officials, she will move on.
How does this comport with the stories we've heard in the last two months that she was in big trouble, they were getting rid of him?
Is that all misinformation?
How stable is the position of this new quasi-emperor?
Oh, Xi is always in big trouble.
Remember, when Xi came into power, the first thing he did was put in jail the so-called Neo-Maoist left-wing faction of the Chinese Communist Party around Bo Xilai up in the Northeast Rust Bowl.
And since then, he's jailed most of the senior officials who ran the Ministry of State Security.
There have been assassination attempts against him.
Wow.
Uh, so she is always in a difficult position, but he came out of the party Congress, I think with a fair degree of success.
He brought in his own team, his own handpicked people.
These are not old-fashioned Communist Party functionaries.
A lot of them have Western education, and particularly in the case of Li Chang, his new premier, there are people who are closest to Western entrepreneurs like Elon Musk or Chinese entrepreneurs like Jack Ma.
So he's got a mandate, and the question is what he does with that.
He's got to get the economy moving again.
Zero COVID.
has basically frozen the Chinese economy.
It's crushed consumption.
Retail trade looks terrible.
They've relied on a big increase in exports.
That's worked until now.
But with the sagging world economy, that's not going to help them very much.
So he's got to go for growth.
And to get growth, he's got to get rid of zero COVID.
So he's fighting for his mandate with a new team.
He's got a shot at it.
He still has some bolts left in his quiver.
But he's got to get this right.
Right.
You mentioned relations to the West.
You mentioned connections to the world economy.
Let's talk to the man who founded the World Economic Forum.
Let's listen to Karl Schwab and this shocking statement he made just last week.
Play cut.
So we have to define how the world should look like, which we want to come out of this transformation period.
I respect China's achievements, which are tremendous over the last over 40 years.
I think it's a role model for many countries, but I think also we should leave it to each country to make its own decision what system it wants to adapt.
And I think we should be very careful in imposing systems.
But the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries.
The Chinese model is quite an attractive model.
You know the international markets.
You know the international players.
How reflective of Western mores is that statement from Karl Schwab?
Karl Schwab is about as reflective of Western mores as I am of, I don't know, Borg culture and Star Wars.
I mean, the guy doesn't he looks like a space alien, doesn't he?
Someone should do a DNA test.
China, there are a lot of things wrong with China.
It would take me a week to catalog them.
There's one thing that Chinese do well, and that's to turn subsistence farmers into moderately prosperous industrial workers.
That's how they got to be so big.
There are a lot of countries for whom that looks like a great proposition.
China comes in with digital infrastructure, they'll build out your Wireless networks, build out your broadband, they'll build physical infrastructure, and they will export their labor and sense of industries to you and hire your people.
So Vietnam, 110 million people, has become a virtual subsidiary of the Chinese economy.
Indonesia is going in that direction with nearly 300 million people.
China's building They're wireless, training the government in cyber security, building their rails, and so forth.
So, with many countries in Southeast Asia, and also to some extent places like Brazil, the Chinese go in and say, you've got people earning a few hundred dollars a year, living on two dollars a day.
We can get that up to ten dollars a day if they work in Chinese textile or steel or shoe plants.
So that is attractive.
That's for countries that are that impoverished.
China makes them an offer they have difficulty refusing.
And your expectation with regards to the current protests, is there a danger if Beijing deems to them be getting them out of hand that we will see a reprise of Tiananmen?
Could there be mass violence or do you think this is a different age?
That's always a danger, but with the digital technology they've got for popular control, not likely.
Hong Kong was repressed pretty thoroughly, but the number of people killed by security forces in two years of process was exactly zero.
So my guess is another Tiananmen is unlikely.
They had a very bad experience with that.
I think the leadership considers it, in retrospect, to have been I'm not saying they're not dastardly repressive, but open violence, the kind that will go before the news cameras, I don't think—I think they'll do whatever they can to avoid that, but of course it's a risk.
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The epicenter of the Chinese protests.
um I'm going to ask you about this article of yours.
Oh, I'm going to ask Mr. G about this story about Ron DeSantis first. - Yes.
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Come in with cut four.
Come in with cut four.
Come in with cut four.
If you are subpoenaed by Republicans when they take over, will you comply?
You know, we'll have to consider the validity of the subpoena.
But I would certainly view my obligation, the administration's obligation, to follow the law.
And the fact that they have disrespected the law is not a precedent I would hope that would be broadly followed.
But we'll have to look at the legitimacy or lack of legitimacy of what they do.
Adam Schiff is going to decide whether the subpoena he receives from a Republican House is legitimate or not.
That is so, so weird.
I wonder if Peter Navarro got to do that, or Steve Bannon got to decide on the legitimacy of their subpoenas.
I guess what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander.
Couple of stories I have to squeeze in before we talk to Mr. Reagan.
This is from Media Matters.
Ron DeSantis paid over $100,000?
To Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire.
Hey, Mr. G, help me out there.
What's all that about?
Any idea?
I don't know, but that's the same website that every day has four different articles about why Trump can't win and DeSantis can.
But why would the governor of Florida need Ben Shapiro's help?
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.
And I want to know how much money it really is.
It says over $100,000.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, exactly.
What about you, Eric?
Any ideas why that could be the case?
I'm not surprised in the slightest.
As I've said before, Ben Shapiro has never been supportive of Trump, and he's just as eager as anyone else to find the alternative who will knock Trump out of the political scene.
And if DeSantis is the one, then...
So be it.
Come on, Ron.
Don't play politics, please.
Come on, seriously.
You wrote a piece recently for American Greatness, Eric.
What is this shocking headline about a hundred medical schools in America were surveyed and what was the result?
58 out of the top 100 medical schools in the nation have made it mandatory in some capacity for students and or staff to learn critical race theory.
What has Critical Race Theory got to do with cancer or heart surgery?
I'm confused.
Oh, absolutely nothing, but that's actually the most dangerous thing revealed by this study from criticalrace.org.
The founder of it, William Jacobson, points out in an interview, This is even more dangerous than anything in usual colleges, or even in government, because in medical school, you know, the Hippocratic Oath, right?
You're supposed to take care of everybody equally, first, do no harm.
Critical race theory essentially says, oh, well, maybe you should consider patients of color before you'd consider white people first.
Yeah, wasn't it Kamala who recently said that they have to give out federal aid based upon your victim status?
Like your skin color?
Is that what they're going to do in hospitals?
Oh, you're white, you don't get the heart transplant.
Wow, guys, it's up to you to stop this insanity.
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Chris, did you have fun doing the laborious salt mining research for today's episode of Making Movies Great Again?
You know, as soon as you see that mountain, as soon as you see that silhouette of Indy, you have to smile.
It's so great.
And that music, you know, that was back in the day.
We talked about this in previous episodes, but man, back in the old days when they used to have a great music, theme music that you could hum to yourself after seeing the movie.
Man, it does add something magnificent that we've really lost in the modern day, you know?
All right, so we're only going to discuss the three movies that were ever made.
We're going to talk about Raiders.
We're going to talk about The Temple of Doom, the dark one, when he was getting divorced or whatever.
And then we're going to talk about the fun one with Sean Connery.
We're going to talk about The Holy Grail, because there are no other indie movies.
Definitely, they're not making a new one either.
You're a little younger than me.
How old are you, you whippersnapper?
I'm now 43.
I just turned 43.
Oh, you're such a little boy.
Alright, so when did the fedora enter your consciousness?
Which movie was it?
What are your first memories of the bullwhip and the leather jacket?
Well, I'll tell you.
I tried to dress appropriately for today.
But, you know, when I was a boy, Indiana Jones was the movie that got me into writing screenplays, that got me into wanting to make films, really.
Because I used to draw, you know.
It's like, some kids draw a lot.
They're pretty good at drawing.
I had that artistic nature.
But I could never draw as well as my imagination would like render images.
But in making a film, you could set it up to where, yeah, you could make that image.
And so I was really drawn to filmmaking.
But I realized, even as like a little boy, I think I was like five or something, and I remember thinking, I want to be like Indiana Jones.
I want to think the way he does, believe the things that he believes.
And I thought, well, but this is something that a writer wrote.
Yeah.
So he's not really a real person.
This is a writer presenting his ideas of what he thinks is true.
And I shouldn't be influenced to believe those things.
So like, even as a boy, I understood the power That that filmmaking had and I thought like I think I'm a good person as like a little child I was like, I think I'm a good person I should make films so that I could influence people to be good people, right?
So that was actually my first inclination to make films was because of Indiana Jones and thinking about how much of an impact it had on me All right, clearly it had a massive impact on you as the spur for your career because you did became a writer and an actor.
Let's tackle head-on the first question, get it out of the way and then just enjoy ourselves.
Over the years, even some of the people involved with the making of these movies Have categorized them, Chris, as B-movies.
As, you know, substandard kind of hokey fun.
I think this is one of the best movies... I mean, if you have to give me the top five movies to choose, Raiders will be amongst the top five.
Where does this B-movie thing come from, and isn't it unfair?
Yeah, well, it's definitely unfair, but I would say that there's a lot of different kinds of films, right?
You write a film for a specific purpose, and there are some really powerful, amazing films that I will never want to see more than once, you know what I mean?
Like, really beautifully well-made, impressive films, but They're not fun.
You know, they're not funny.
They're not exciting.
Watching Indiana Jones is just so much fun.
Especially if you haven't seen it in a while.
Raiders of the Lost Ark in particular.
You forget some things and you're watching and you're thinking, man, this is just fantastic.
I want to do this.
I want to be on this adventure.
I don't think you can make film better than that, right?
To make the audience want to be doing the thing in the film that they're watching, I mean, to me, that's the ultimate goal right there.
If you can make them want to be in the film, then you've won.
If you want to emulate the protagonist, then the person making the movie has done their job.
Even this, I mean, this moment that they're traveling to Nepal, there's no amazing special effects.
I think the seaplane was filmed somewhere out in California, and then they have this You can say it's hokey, this image of the plane moving over a map, the red line, but it's perfect.
It takes you back.
It's kind of a period special effects, if you will.
When we think about this incredible series that is still going, we have to just address one issue.
Would this still be have as engrossing as much of a phenomena if they had released Tom Selleck from his contract for Magnum and he had actually been Indiana Jones as was originally planned, Chris?
How would have that worked?
Yeah, it's really hard to imagine it, isn't it?
Yeah.
I mean, I love Tom Selleck.
I mean, I love Tom Selleck, but it's hard.
It's hard.
You know, honestly, I've tried many times.
Every time I think about Tom Selleck in the part, I sit there and I try to imagine Tom Selleck as Indiana Jones, and it really just doesn't work.
But at the end of the day, it's really hard to know, because it just would have been a completely different series of films.
And to imagine Tom Selleck in the role, I think is impossible, because there's so much that would have to change, so much different.
In order to prepare for this radio show, I watched a documentary from the era, from the time that they filmed Raiders, and I could see, I believe that Spielberg said that he called Lucas, and he said that they had brought in all these guys to audition for indie, and he said nobody was even close.
He goes, then Empire comes out.
I'm sitting there and I'm watching Empire, And I immediately call up George and I go, George, you know, you know, you know who's, I know who's going to be Indie.
You know, who's going to be Indie.
He goes, yeah, yeah, no, I know what you're going to say.
You're going to say Harrison.
He's like, yeah, I don't have to tell you.
So they knew, they knew just, you know, before they even, uh, before they even asked, you know, before they even, they knew, they knew from the beginning.
I think they just didn't want to do it for some reason.
George didn't, I guess, because he had worked with Harrison so much.
He just didn't want to rely on him like a crutch.
Like, this is the guy that makes my films work.
But, you know, actors are very powerful.
And to be honest here, he's quite a dick in private life.
If you look at the interviews with Harrison Ford, he just doesn't give a crap.
I mean, it's like the voiceover for Blade Runner.
He just does not want to do anything more than the paycheck.
He says, yes, no, when he's asked questions.
But watching these movies in the last couple of days, He's so good.
I mean, even that moment from Temple of Doom as the spikes are coming down, just that line, we are going to die.
I mean, there's not a good way to deliver that, believably, but he really always steps up to the plate.
He never phones it in, does he, Chris?
Well, I will say that there are certain faces, there are certain kinds of people who can deliver an overly dramatic line, and it still seems a bit understated.
Yeah, the way he goes, We are going to die!
Inside, like, that little thing, you know?
He moves his whole face.
Yeah.
And it's somehow it still seems understated.
And I think that that is a kind of just like a gift.
You know, what are you going to do?
Yeah.
I think in order to like being a dick and not caring, I think it's part of what what you what you need to be to be a leading man.
Like, I think.
Bruce Willis is a little bit like this.
He's like, you know, what is acting?
Acting is going on set, playing make-believe.
He doesn't respect the acting profession.
And actually, my favorite actors are actors that don't respect acting because they go on set.
And I will tell you, most of the roles that I've gotten in Hollywood have been roles in which I went up to the audition and I thought, well, I don't think I'm going to get this.
I'm not right for the part.
And so I just went in and I kind of nervous.
You were yourself and you got it right.
Not just that, but there were instances when I literally was not right for the part.
There's at least two I can remember off the top of my head.
And they changed the character for me.
They're like, we wanted an older guy, but you're so good.
We're going to rewrite it.
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Okay, before we go on, you mentioned you got very entertained last week, or you entertained yourself by Porkins, one of the Star Wars characters, who is in Raiders, right?
Is he?
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He's one of the government agents.
One of the men from the ministry.
From the, you know, the defense ministry.
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That's Paul Kidds!
I didn't even... That never clicked until this moment.
That's amazing.
That's... Didn't either of you ever go to Sunday school?
And that guy's face, his colleague's face, looks like he's, you know, eating a lemon when he asks.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
Such a superb scene.
I mean, just the chalkboard, the headpiece, the staff of Raar, and then he opens the book, and magically that book with 2,000 pages opens on the page with a picture of the Ark, right?
Matt just happens to open on that page.
You know, that's the great thing about those movies.
I've never thought about how, what a magical moment that is until just now.
It didn't occur to me that that was weird, but you know, back then, you know, in the eighties, that was kind of how things were done.
You just did things for convenience sometimes.
But, uh, and, and, you know, I'm looking, I'm watching this documentary, how they made it.
They put so much work into it.
They really loved the craft of filmmaking.
You know, what's interesting about Raiders, uh, in that documentary I watched, Steven Spielberg says that George Lucas wrote Raiders of the Lost Ark based on his own actual beliefs about what happened to the Ark.
Really?
He wrote an adventure story around his own research about the Ark, believing that the Ark is available to be discovered somewhere.
Well, there is a theory that it is in Ethiopia.
Have you followed that?
Graham Hancock's book.
There is a church in Ethiopia that says they have the ark and every year, once a year, they bring it out and they have a parade, but it is covered and only one man is ever allowed into the sanctum.
Are you familiar with that?
I am, yeah, yeah.
I've read about this, yeah.
All right.
I want us to compare the movies to each other, but let's talk about best scenes.
We're playing the truck convoy horse chase scene.
What stands out for you from the first movie, Chris?
Oh gosh, uh, I don't know, I'm making this up as I go along.
I know, but I mean, isn't this one of the climactic moments, the under the truck?
That's a line, that's a line from the movie.
I know it is.
In fact, that's a line coming up right here.
No, just before, just before he got on the horse.
Just before this, you're right.
He says it to Salah.
And you always have to have a Welshman play an Egyptian, right?
It's essential.
Oh he's, and he's fantastic.
Oh yes!
And what about...
It's hard to decide which scene is best because it really goes from like, one amazing moment to the next during this film, there's not a lot of room to breathe.
It's just excite, it's either excitement or funny or fun.
And there's no there's no there's no moment where it goes flat.
No, no, there's a kind of it's almost like music.
It's almost like a song, right?
It just flows into the next bit.
And oh, yeah, this is this was Epic.
When I was a kid watching this happen, and you actually see the guy get run over, I don't remember a lot of instances when I was young, in the 80s, watching somebody get run over by a truck.
But even that, there's a hint of hilarity, because it's a kind of joke.
His legs spring up as the truck crushes him.
It's like a clown.
It's like the clown car at the circus, and his legs pop So even the way they deal with that is such a deft touch.
Yeah.
It's this nice balance.
And that's the really great thing.
When I was growing up, films like this were fun.
They were exciting, but they were also funny.
And I think that we've lost that balance a lot.
And it was really bizarre to me because you'd think that they had nailed it down so tightly in the 80s, the early 90s.
And then they just kind of like lost it.
And I just feel like It should have gotten better, but it didn't.
It kind of got worse, and we have films that are... I feel like they're overly silly, or they take themselves too seriously, and you just can't find the right balance that you found in films like these.
Let's go back one cut to cut four.
This is, you know, the infamous, the notorious, bizarre scene.
When allegedly, you know, everybody's got dysentery.
Everybody's sick except Spielberg, because he eats out of, you know, tin cans in Tunisia or wherever they are.
Harrison is too sick for the sword fight with the people kidnapping Marion.
And so instead of having an extensive sword fight, he just pulls out the handgun and shoots him.
This is, again, it's, there's a touch of humor there, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Beautiful, beautiful moment.
And kind of spur of the moment, There were scenes when they were shooting where Harrison Ford would just make jokes on set.
So there's the scene where they're tied to the post, they gotta close their eyes or else the Ark of the Covenant is gonna burn them like it burned all the Nazis.
And he's yelling at Marion, close your eyes, Marion, close your eyes!
And apparently in the script, when they were shooting, Marion's going, I can't, I gotta open my eyes, I gotta open my eyes!
After a couple of bickering back and forth, finally Harrison Ford just goes, all right, fine, open them.
And Spielberg's laughing at the camera, and he's like, okay, cut, cut, we got it.
And so they were having fun.
Apparently this was shot in a real town in Tunisia, but because it was the 80s and they were trying to make it look like 1937, I believe, something like that, there were no aerial antennas back then.
And so they had to literally go around town, talk to the people who owned the houses, and manually take down every antenna in that town.
The so-called Cairo scene, when you see from Salah's house onto the whole city, they had to take down every stinking TV antenna.
Today they would just do it digitally.
Right.
But back then they physically had to go in and of course they'd be satellite dishes.
Yeah.
They had to go in and they had to physically, manually take them down.
Amazing.
Just the amount of work that it took to make a film back then.
And these people were just, they were dedicated.
And utterly, utterly perfectionists.
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All right, while we play our final cut from Raiders as we move on to the Temple of Doom, talk to me about— Yeah, well, I was gonna ask you here.
So for me, I love Grail.
I find Temple, you know, when kids are being whipped, I kind of like...
You know, Spielberg, George, what are you doing here?
And Raiders is just perfection.
I mean, Raiders, as you said, it's just, it's like a symphony.
The pieces just fit together.
So Raiders is the one, let me answer it this way, Raiders is the one I could watch whenever.
I mean, there's no time I would not want to watch it.
I wouldn't say the same about Temple, for example.
How about you?
No, I don't understand.
There are some people who, Temple of Doom, that is their favorite indie film, and I personally, I don't get it.
They must be creeps.
Yeah, they must be.
There's value here.
I mean, there's a lot of value in this movie.
Apparently, the chase in the coal cars or whatever they were, the mine cars, this was supposed to be in the first film.
They couldn't figure out, manage how to work it in.
Well, they ran out of money and time.
Is that what happened?
Yeah.
They wanted to do a house like Cairo.
They may have just written this entire film around that one stunt, you know, thinking, oh, this is cool.
What are we going to do around this?
But it does sort of hearken back to those old serials from back in the day.
So, you know, there is something valuable about it.
It did.
There was a lot of copying of this kind of theme in the 80s.
You saw a lot of other properties using this kind of theme after this.
It was a little creepy, for sure.
For me, Last Crusade is the funniest one, and therefore that's the one I can watch the most often, because I can watch anything with comedy over and over again, as long as I forget the jokes.
I don't have a long memory, so...
I will say, for Temple, there's one scene I can watch again and again and again, and it's the opening.
I mean, Kate Capshaw's singing, you know, Anything Goes in Mandarin, the Bosley-Berkley setup, I mean, that's just so much fun, Chris.
That's the James Bond scene.
That's the homage to Bond.
And I think I told you, I'm convinced after I re-watched The Spy Who Loves Me, I'm pretty sure that The Spy Who Loves Me heavily influenced both Raiders and Temple of Doom.
No, I buy it.
I completely buy it.
And one more thing I think is impressive.
I mean, it's an impressive movie, all told.
I watched again, I forgot, it was like day before yesterday when I watched this again.
When they're angry with each other, when Willie and India are angry with each other, and they're having that kind of sexual frisson in her bedroom, the banter You know?
What would you study?
Your nocturnal habits.
It's bloody well done.
The delivery is hilarious.
True.
And you know, Spielberg ended up marrying her, I believe, right?
Yes.
And they're still married, Chris.
I checked it out.
There's a Hollywood marriage and they are still flipping married.
How about that?
That is impressive.
And I've worked with her daughter.
I used to do background acting.
I used to be on I forget the show.
Grey's Anatomy.
I used to do background in Grey's Anatomy.
Hang on!
My wife and daughter love that!
You're going to have to text me.
They've probably seen me walk around in the background.
You've got to show me, you've got to tell me which episodes.
You've got to text me, all right?
Oh, many years ago.
I don't, I honestly, I could never find, there's no way I could ever find myself, but I'm in plenty of episodes.
I used to do that show all the time.
But her daughter is in that show.
And I will say, you know, I was on set with her several times.
We spoke and, you know, chit chatted in the halls and whatnot.
An absolutely lovely human being.
She's actually alright.
She's one of the few good people in Hollywood, I would say.
Her daughter.
Alright, I gotta get a piece of trivia out here that is from my childhood.
Do you know who Pat Roach is?
Mm-mm.
So Pat Roach is the 8-foot tall monster who plays in the beginning of Raiders.
He is the guy in the Nepalese bar the Nazis bring in who Marion bangs over the head with the log.
Right?
He's wearing a turban, okay?
That's his first role.
Then, in the same movie, he's the massive, bald airplane mechanic who gets killed by the propeller.
That's Pat Roach.
Same guy.
Two parts in the same movie.
And, in Temple, he's the giant Sikh god that gets mashed up by the stone roller.
Same guy.
Three parts.
That's amazing.
That's amazing.
Isn't that... I'm pretty sure that the left would call that blackface now and he'd be cancelled.
Yes!
And why do I know all this?
But what a magnificent... I didn't even realise.
And why do I know all this?
Because Pat Roach was a wrestler when I was a kid in England.
He was actually a wrestler.
He's a famous wrestler who did, you know, doubled up big massive hulks.
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I'm enjoying Raiders, all three of them, with my buddy Chris Coles.
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All right, I can't believe how fast the time flies.
We may have to dedicate one of our days, we may have to do three hours on one movie or one set of movies because it just flies too fast.
All right, let us move on to the third and final movie in the Indiana Jones trilogy, which is, of course, The Holy Grail.
You say this is the one that you enjoy the most because it's the most humorous.
Yeah, I can watch this.
If it comes on television, I'll just keep watching it.
I mean, who doesn't love the moment where Indy throws the guy off the plane and turns to everybody else, or the blimp, sorry, and turns to everybody else and just goes, no ticket.
And everybody just pulls their tickets out like crazy.
I mean, there's so many moments like that in this movie.
And it really is I mean this is and you got Sean Connery as his father what a what perfect casting the man who inspired Indiana Jones.
Although allegedly he didn't want to take the role because there's only like 13 or 14 years between them and he didn't want to play his dad.
Yeah well some people I mean you and I are the same age and you look like you could be my dad.
Who invited this guy?
I mean, seriously.
I give him a platform, I give him three million listeners, I give him some credibility, and he sits there and he just disses on me.
Hey, what did I call you at the beginning of the show?
I said, this is the Han Solo to my Luke Skywalker.
Yes, but you didn't do it on air.
I told you you got to do it on air.
All right.
We've got the, let's go to cut three.
This is kind of personal for me because when I was in defense department, I did counter-terrorism training for military officers that were allied and partnered to the United States.
And I'm going to say it right now, sorry, my best students outside of my American students were my Jordanian students.
Especially the counter-terrorism battalion that looks after the King.
Aref, if you're watching, General Aref.
You know who you are.
The best, the toughest, the smartest.
And of course I went to Jordan to, you know, to visit my buddies.
And this moment where they take Petra, which for some reason hadn't been too played out in movies, and they make this the resting place of the, you know, the Valley of the Crescent Moon and the Holy Grail.
What a beautifully done scene.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely brilliant.
I mean, yeah, it is weird that this wasn't played out up to this point, but, you know, they didn't have the technology back then.
The world is so much smaller now.
People don't really realize how, you know, you've got the entire library of every book ever written right here.
We're unbelievably lucky and we don't realize that you actually had to fly to this location, bring the whole set, everything was done manually.
There was nothing digital.
So you had to find a beautiful set like this to shoot it.
And what a magnificent place.
If you ever go, have you ever been to Jordan?
No, I've not.
If you go there, spoilers guys, massive disappointment when you get, it's called the treasury, it's actually called the treasury, that building that the Nabataean Empire built in Petra.
You go inside, and it's this tiny room full of trash.
I mean, there's nothing in there.
There's no building inside.
Just from tourists you mean?
Yeah, it's just stuff left by tourists.
It's like a square room and dust on the ground.
So stick to this part.
This scene with the various grails.
Alice and Doodie, you know, tricking her Nazi master.
And then the immortal knight saying, he chose poorly.
I mean, that's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
You know, just the idea of that is the cup of a carpenter.
Yes!
Just that idea was so revolutionary.
Such a brilliant moment in cinema.
But then, of course, afterwards, if you really think about it, you think, oh, you just find the cup that doesn't look like any of the other cups.
If you think it through later, it actually doesn't make any sense.
And let's give credit to Alison, because I think she was 19 when she auditioned and she was like 20 when she played this.
Pretty impressive.
Not just that, but absolutely stunningly beautiful woman.
Who has a pretty thick Irish accent in real life and did that Austrian accent pretty well.
I didn't know that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Fantastic.
Although apparently, according to the indications of the script, the character does sleep with both Indy and his father, which I find a little bit disturbing.
Well, she does talk in her sleep.
Yeah, that's right.
I remember watching that as a kid going, yikes!
No, but the chemistry between them is really quite superlative, don't you think, between Harrison and Sean?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, yeah, their interactions are always brilliant.
And the fact that Sean Connery plays something of a coward a little bit is, you know, you expect him to be James Bond.
Or kind of pacifist.
A pacifist, exactly.
And then, you know, he does, of course, rise to the occasion as he needs to throughout the movie.
But I would say, like, one of my favorite moments in any indie film And Steven Spielberg says that he kind of regrets this because he took the whole kind of Nazi thing a little bit too lightly, he felt like, when he was younger.
But it's a great moment when Indiana Jones bumps into Hitler and Hitler signs his book.
I'm curious because I missed that.
What did Spielberg say?
That he touched it too lightly or not enough or overdid it?
Yeah, because it's not that he is... I don't know if I should say he regrets it, but obviously he did Schindler's List.
Yes.
And when he did Schindler's List, you know, Spielberg being Jewish, having relatives, I believe, that were in the Holocaust.
Maybe that's not true.
But he was, you know, he thought, OK, these are my people.
I need to show respect, you know, through my work.
And of course, when he did Schindler's List, he absolutely did that.
I felt like, I don't remember exactly what he said, but I've seen an interview where he does talk about the Indiana Jones moment, and that obviously didn't present the gravitas that maybe the Jewish people felt about the Nazis.
But at the end of the day, come on.
I mean it's a moment in history that real-life people did – he had maids.
He had people working for him, chauffeurs and stuff like that.
These people weren't necessarily bad people, right?
They just happened to live in that part of the world at that time.
And so not every little moment of everybody's life during that time was just pure evil.
You know, it doesn't have to always be like that.
And we need to find the funny moments in tragedy, I feel like.
Well, and also there was a very powerful juxtaposition in that scene, which lasts, what, maybe three or four minutes, when he, you know, tracks her down, tracks the Nazi historian down to Berlin.
And the first thing you see is the pile of books being burned.
So it's It's not comedy for the sake of comedy.
You're going to a Nazi book burning and then you just happen to bump into Hitler.
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All right, we're not going to discuss any other project or any other content related to the archaeologist who was named after his father's dog.
However, there is allegedly some kind of film out there about crystal skulls and I want to show a little clip of it because it is the clip that pisses me off the most about this atrocious piece of dog poop.
Okay.
So it's the beginning and that cold war what an amazing environment that you could make superb stories from and how to right at the get-go forget the flying fridge and the nuclear bomb how how do they find what they're looking for how do they find the artifact he's in the mystery warehouse at Roswell and he asks for what he asks for shotgun shells because The mystical, magical item they're looking for is magnetic.
And he empties the shotgun cartridges to use the powder which will be attracted by the magnetism of the artifact.
What do you mean gunpowder?
You mean potassium nitrate, carbon and sulfur is now made of metal and it's attracted to magnets?
You bloody cretins!
You're in America!
How many guns and shotguns are in this country?
How many people know that shotgun propellant isn't made of metal?
This really teed me off, Chris Coles.
Well, yeah, I feel like if you're going to make a fan film, at least, you know, do some justice to the original characters and stuff like that.
I don't know.
Don't do this garbage crap about gunpowder being magnetic.
Honestly, it's a weird concern that you have, Sebastian.
I'm a gun guy.
This ruined it for me.
We're seven minutes into the movie and it just tanked for me.
I'm sorry.
Oh, let's throw some gunpowder in the air.
I'm sure it'll be magnetic magically.
Well, in the old days, you know, they used to introduce characters in a sort of humble way.
You know, maybe he comes in as the old professor.
He's retired the hat.
He's retired the whip.
He's retired the gun.
Somebody convinces him to put the hat on.
Maybe 20, 30 minutes into the film, he finally goes, you know what?
All right.
Puts the hat on.
And then we're like, we're happy again because he's back, you know?
But They start the movie out with Indiana Jones, and I felt like there was just no build-up, and I don't know what happened to Spielberg.
It almost felt like he was cashing in, which was just really sad to me.
The whole alien thing, they're like, oh, it's not aliens, it's interdimensional travelers.
Whatever, it's aliens.
That's not what Indiana Jones is.
There's sci-fi, there's fantasy, and Indiana Jones is his own kind of a thing.
It's somewhat set in the real world.
And I just feel like adding aliens to an Indiana Jones movie is like contaminating it with a different genre, if that makes sense.
Yeah, because we're not talking about sci-fi up to now, we've been talking about the supernatural, we've been talking about Judeo-Christian heritage, the Grail, we've been talking about the Ark, and now we're talking about, you know, little grey men from Roswell, and I'm just gonna vent one more time They also pulled out, as you saw, their shotgun pellets, which are made of lead, which is non-ferrous, you cretins!
I mean, whoever wrote that script should be banned from scriptwriting for life.
They should have a big crystal skull hung around their neck that says, do not hire me because I'm a moron and I have no respect for firearms or for science.
All right.
Very exciting.
Tell us about your new venture.
I think it may have something to do with this current endeavor.
Is that true?
Yeah, I mean, for about two years now, I've been thinking about doing a channel where I do talk about movies and TV shows and stuff like that.
And since we started this one... And you had to wait for some inspiration from this more sagacious elderly gentleman.
Is that right?
That's true.
That's absolutely right.
Sagacious is a beautifully chosen word there, actually.
No, this...
I've had a lot of people talking to me recently about this.
Coincides with our starting this show.
And in fact, you're talking about how much you loved Andor, the new show Andor.
Yeah.
I hated Andor.
And that's unusual that you and I disagree so much about a particular project.
So I thought I got, I have to explain why I don't like this.
And this is a great first episode for my new channel.
So I've got a whole new channel and it's called Alpha Critic.
And in Alpha Critic on, on YouTube, I'm going to be reviewing Everything that comes up, I'll be talking about Star Wars, I'll be talking about all the new stuff that comes out.
But the first episode is on Andor and it's already on YouTube.
That's right.
I posted it this morning.
Beautiful.
All right.
I can't wait.
What a great title.
Alpha Critic.
Alpha Critic.
I'm going to watch it.
Then I'm going to lambast him on Twitter in front of my 1.2 million followers for trashing Andor.
Nobody will subscribe to his account ever again, and he will apologize publicly on his YouTube channel.
Okay, let's cut to the chase.
Next movie.
What are we doing, dude?
It's your choice.
Wow.
Okay.
All right.
Well, you didn't want to do Back to the Future.
I felt that was the natural next project.
I'm just, I'm not a big, doesn't excite me.
People, you know, say Zemeckis wrote the best script ever.
I just don't buy it.
Pick something that's really close to your heart or you think hasn't got requisite recognition.
Oh, God.
Well, I haven't thought about it.
Have you been thinking about it?
What are your, what are your, what have you been thinking about?
Well look, there's all kinds of things I just saw.
I don't think we should delve into this, but while you're thinking, I was on Pluto.
Which is my new kind of default because it has, you know, it has classic movie channels.
I love documentaries.
It's got a Doctor Who, a Doctor Who channel.
It's like, when my wife goes to bed at nine o'clock and I'm up till 2am, I'm watching Doctor Who from the 1970s as a child.
And then, Sleepless Night, I come over the classics channel.
And I must have seen this when I was a kid.
They had the Battle of Britain movie in Incredible.
Lawrence Olivia, Michael Caine.
I mean, just a stellar cast.
Christopher Plummer.
And then, no CGI, of course, because it's 1978 or something, produced by Harry Saltzman of the James Bond fame.
And they've actually got Spitfires and Nazi Messerschmitts.
And I'm going, how the flip did they do this?
I've never seen this movie.
I'll have to watch this.
But I'll tell you what, I think I figured out what we need to do next.
Christmas is coming up.
Yes.
What is the most controversial Christmas film of all time?
Die Hard!
That would be the one.
Yes!
Dude!
Nailed it.
All right.
Yippee-ki-yay.
So are we going to limit ourselves to just one?
Yes.
I think so.
I mean, the first one is the iconic one.
Two's not bad, but let's devote, because he deserves it, Bruce deserves it, and let's just put it in here.
Who was meant to play the character originally?
Oh, I think I do know this, but I don't remember.
It's really weird, because they bought the rights back in the 1960s to a novel.
The film is based upon a novel they bought back in the 60s.
I have heard this, but why don't you just go ahead and Frank Sinatra.
That's right.
That is right.
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