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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Kari Lake live on whats going on in AZ

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	�� ...everybody should be vaccinated and boosted with flu and with COVID.
	Whether or not you wear a mask or another thing we shouldn't underestimate is testing.
	So when we're gathering at a family gathering for Thanksgiving or for Christmas or for any other holiday as we get into the winter, It makes sense that you might want to get a test that day before you come into a place.
	I know sometimes when you walk in and you have a mask and nobody has a mask, you kind of feel guilty.
	You shouldn't feel guilty.
	You look terrific.
	My message and my final message, maybe the final message I give you from this podium, is that please, for your own safety, for that of your family, get your updated COVID-19 shot as soon as you're eligible.
	No, Fauci!
	Not happening!
	I haven't had a shot.
	I haven't had a booster.
	And I'm not getting one.
	His last press conference from the podium of the White House.
	Goodbye, Fauci.
	Goodbye.
	I wonder why he's stepping down now.
	Was there an election recently?
	Did the Republicans take the House?
	You can run, Fauci.
	But you can't hide.
	You will be subpoenaed by the Republicans.
	Will they have the spine to do what it takes?
	And to actually charge you to send criminal referrals to the DOJ for your culpability, not only in funding Wuhan, but in the fake science you propagated in America.
	Masks!
	More masks!
	More boosters!
	You can't catch COVID!
	You can't transmit COVID!
	And especially if you're in a baseball game, you don't need to wear the mask if you're the highest paid bureaucrat in America.
	$400,000 a year.
	More than the President of the United States.
	Good riddance.
	We'll see you.
	in Congress.
	Welcome, dear friends, the day before Thanksgiving.
	What are your plans?
	How are you going to share them?
	How are you going to deal with the crazy libs at the dinner table at the Thanksgiving repast?
	Call us 855, sorry, 833-33-GORKA.
	That must be my other radio show.
	833-334-6752.
	Sound off today on the topics of the day.
	It must be my other radio show.
	833-334-6752.
	Sound off today on the topics of the day.
	We've got an unbelievable update for you from the Q club, the LGBTQ LMNOP club shooting regarding the perpetrator.
	We'll mention that momentarily.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
	But I need some advice from my radio mentor, a man who's been doing radio far longer than I have.
	Mr. G, last couple of days, you know, inside the Sausage Factory, as we sit down before the show, we go through the stories, we Finalize the cuts.
	We kind of decide on the, you know, the big topics of the day and finalize the guests.
	But then, you know, I kind of wing it when it comes to the monologue.
	And last two days they've been pretty dark, pretty heavy, pretty angry.
	As a consumer of radio as well as a producer, does that switch people off when they turn on to the top of the show?
	What is your advice to me when it comes to those No, you do anger when it's warranted, and then you do the happy good ones when it's warranted.
	It depends what's going on.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I like that.
	I like that attitude.
	Why have I been angry?
	Well, let's remind everybody.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	What day is it today?
	The 22nd, 23rd?
	Two days ago, the White House issued this statement.
	This is signed by the man who sadly bears the title President of the United States.
	Statement by President Biden on the deadly shooting in Colorado Springs.
	While no motive in this attack is yet clear, we know that the LGBTQI plus community has been subjected to horrific hate violence in recent years.
	Do we?
	Gun violence continues to have a devastating and particular impact on LGBTQI... It's ridiculous.
	LGBTQI plus communities.
	Don't they realize how absurd it makes them look?
	It's risible.
	It's laughable.
	Across our nation, and threats of violence are increasing.
	We saw it six years ago in Orlando when our nation suffered the deadliest attack affecting the LGBTQI plus community in American history.
	So you had to go back six years.
	Interesting.
	We continue to see it in the epidemic of violence and murder against transgender women, especially transgender women of color.
	Here's a question for you, GOP rhinos and good guys.
	How about the next time you have, what's his name, Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, in front of you testifying?
	Under oath.
	Ask him this simple question because there's got to be a numerical answer.
	How many, let me get this right, how many transgender women of color were attacked last year?
	I just want that number.
	Is it more than the 9,000 black men who were killed by black men?
	Just curious.
	Because I think all of those guys are probably heterosexual.
	Is that an epidemic?
	You didn't mention that.
	Now I've discussed that statement before.
	It is all the more relevant today because of this story.
	God bless this post-millennial.
	Attorneys for Anderson Lee Aldrich The individual charged with five counts of murder and five hate crimes.
	Surely murdering somebody, you probably have to hate them to murder them, right?
	What is this absurdity that you get an additional hate crime charge if they're gay or black or... Do you get it if they're white and Christian?
	I'm curious.
	I mean, surely the important thing is that you murdered somebody.
	The attorneys for Anderson Lee Aldrich have said that Aldrich is, quote, non-binary and uses the pronouns they and them.
	Huh.
	That's weird.
	So what was that threat?
	It wasn't a conservative spun up by Fox News, Tucker Carlson, Breitbart.
	You mean it was a guy who thought he's not a guy?
	So you add that to the Paul Pelosi attack.
	And I'm wondering, what's the real threat to America?
	Are we facing an epidemic of pro-marijuana, nudist, illegal immigrant, non-binary violence?
	I'd like to see the stats on that.
	What about the guy who traveled from California to the home of Justice Kavanaugh, the Democrat who brought a gun, a knife, and zip ties to kill him and his family?
	Was he a MAGA supporter?
	Was it a cisgender, hetero, white MAGA supporter who loved Breitbart.com and Tucker Carlson who wanted to kill?
	A Supreme Court Associate Justice nominated by President Trump.
	You know the truth, don't you?
	If you know the truth, it is beholden upon you to express it.
	We must win.
	And we can only do that if we stay loyal to the truth.
	We have an amazing lineup for you today.
	The third hour, a very special guest.
	In the second hour, oh, in about four minutes, we have none other than Carrie Lake, live from Arizona, with some big announcements about the fight.
	This is America First, coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios.
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	All right, can you play? can you play?
	One, two, three, five.
	So we have to define how the world should look like, which we want to come out of this transformation period.
	I respect China's achievements which are tremendous over the last over 40 years.
	I think it's a role model for many countries But I think also we should leave it to each country to make its own decision what system it wants to adapt.
	And I think we should be very careful in imposing systems.
	But the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries.
	We know that LGBTQ plus bars, clubs have been a safe place for people where they can go in and be themselves, whether they're a member of the community or not.
	And you feel right now that you don't have that.
	I don't have that because one thing I've noticed, I go to, I've been around the world, a lot of gay bars and security is very slim.
	And I get security security nowadays.
	Some of them can carry weapons.
	Some of them can't.
	I think for the LGBTQ bar, you've got to get a security that can carry a weapon.
	I think that would make a world of difference.
	Not just a security guard, but security guards that can actually be armed.
	White supremacists, right-wing extremists, and domestic terrorists trying to stoke fear in the hearts of New Yorkers.
	They want us to think twice about our safety before we worship, before we get on a subway, before we go dancing with our friends.
	Here we are at the merch thing, and there's an entire closet full of hashtag woke t-shirts.
	Alright, can you come in with the, um, Cut 2, the survivor from the club?
	Here we are.
	By the way, you should see how quick they ended the interview after that.
	They ended it right after that.
	Oh yeah?
	Yeah.
	Copy that, coming in with Cut 2.
	Alright, we have her camera, she's not in the chair yet.
	Okay, good.
	She's on at 9, uh, 1.20, right?
	Yeah, about 45 seconds.
	20, right?
	Yeah, about 45 seconds.
	Okay.
	And I just have her Twitter for her title, Carrie Lake, and Twitter at Carrie Lake.
	Do you want me to put former or... No, no, no, just put after her name, or below her name, also CarrieLake.com.
	Okay.
	Doctor, do you prefer mic on or off?
	Mic's off.
	Copy that.
	Thank you.
	And you feel right now that you don't have that.
	I don't have that because one thing I've noticed, I've been around the world, a lot of gay bars and security is very slim and I get security.
	Security nowadays, some of them can carry weapons, some of them can't.
	I think for the LGBTQ bar, you've got to get a security that can carry a weapon.
	I think that would make a world of difference.
	Not just a security guard, but security guards that can actually be armed.
	That's Barrett Hudson from his hospital room, one of the survivors of the Q Club shooting, who said, yeah, there should be armed guards.
	Why weren't there armed guards?
	Mr. G, what happened at the interview after he gave that answer to the lamestream media?
	Thank you for your time, and they went right to break.
	Yeah, thank you for your time.
	We don't want to hear that because that doesn't comport with our gun-grabbing attitude.
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	We showed you her very powerful video just two days ago that she released.
	She's now here in person.
	I have in front of me the court documents her team has filed in Arizona.
	And we are delighted to have with us the firebrand, the warrior from Arizona, Carrie Lake.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hello, Seb.
	Yes, we filed some paperwork today.
	This is not our main case.
	This is just pressuring Maricopa County to give us access to the information we need.
	And we are working on a big court filing pertaining to this election that was absolutely the most horrendously run election, I think, in the history of our country, and definitely in Arizona history.
	The people who ran it should be ashamed of themselves.
	Our movement was so powerful, Seb, That they couldn't defeat us with their usual antics.
	They had to pull out all the stops, knowing that our people were showing up on election day.
	And it sure looks like they sabotaged election day in many cases here around Arizona.
	And it's just appalling what they've done to our sacred vote.
	And I will stand up and fight it every step of the way.
	All right, I was talking to my muse, my wife, this morning.
	I said, hey, hey, hey, you know who's coming on my show?
	Carrie Lake's coming on my show.
	You've met my wife.
	And I asked her, what should I ask?
	What should I ask Carrie?
	And she said, just ask her what happened and what is she going to do about it.
	So, according to Katie, What happened?
	Because we have unbelievable stories of rank incompetence from the GOP, the printer cartridges, the lines, the lack of a backup machine.
	What are we talking about in Arizona?
	Are we talking about idiots?
	Or are we talking about fraud?
	Or are we talking about both?
	I mean maladministration, I think some malice.
	I believe that we may have a pretty good case for malice and perhaps fraud as well.
	So we're taking a look at everything.
	But as you know, in Arizona, we have election season, not election day, and they start handing out the ballots well ahead, about a month ahead of election day, and they're floating around everywhere.
	You know, we've seen pictures of people who have won, Legal voter in the house, but they get five ballots because every person who's ever lived in that house is getting a ballot And so, you know, you've always got that problem when you have an election season rather than election day But knowing that our supporters were going to show up in mass and that we had a massive movement Unlike anything we've ever seen in Arizona before the problems really started rolling out on election day the minute the polls opened The machines didn't work.
	In 63% of the polling places on election day, the tabulators didn't work.
	They spit out ballots.
	Immediately, the printers didn't work.
	And it was like that pretty much all day.
	By the time the technicians got there to try to work on some of the machinery, we were six and seven hours into the voting day.
	Lines that stretched three hours long, people who probably drove up, saw the line and said, oh, forget it.
	I'm just not going to vote.
	And there are so many problems.
	We found out that they didn't even certify the printers.
	At the polling places.
	And so we're digging into that.
	The only printer that got certified were the printers that run back, which is the million dollar printers that print out the ballots that go into the mailboxes.
	But they didn't bother to certify the printers that are printing ballots all day, every day on election day.
	And so there are a number of problems and we are all over each and every one of them.
	We have whistleblowers who've come forward and tons of evidence that we're pouring through right now.
	Well, I'm going to be digesting both of these filings from your team.
	I'll be posting my response to them on social media.
	But in the meantime, I've got to ask the question.
	I should tell you real quick though, Seb, that filing you have is not our main case.
	I don't want people to look at this.
	No, I understand.
	And I can't wait for that filing as well.
	What support are you getting from the GOP, the party, the RNC?
	Are they in your corner, Carrie Lake?
	I wish I could sit here and tell you that they are pouring money into our legal fund.
	They are not.
	They are interested in basically looking at how we can repair things going forward.
	We have to dig through this election.
	We didn't dig through properly the 2020 election, and it looks like what happened in this election is they pulled a lot of the same tricks they did in 2020, and then some.
	And I'm not interested in looking to the future.
	I'm interested in finding out what the hell went wrong, how they tried to sabotage Election Day here in Arizona, and finding out who the culprits are.
	And we will find out who the culprits are.
	The RNC has not given us any money to do that, and they're not really interested in taking up our case.
	I think our case is going to be explosive.
	And I will tell Katie Hobbs and Governor Doug Ducey right now, if they plan to sit down and certify this rotten election, they better think twice about it.
	Because we have an explosive case that's going to, I believe, rock this country and rock this world of how they're doing elections here in Maricopa County and in Arizona.
	All right.
	You are very busy.
	You want to keep fighting.
	However, we came up with a wonderful idea.
	I have to go to Israel for a few days with 300 of my listeners and Dinesh D'Souza.
	And I've asked you as a media star to fill in for me.
	Can I confirm live now on air in front of 3 million people that you will be one of my guest hosts?
	You caught me at a weak moment, and I agreed to do the work that you do.
	Yes, I'm going to be filling in at least one day, maybe two, while you're gone, unless you want to stay here and let me go to Israel for you.
	I think we need you to fight, fight, fight, and I think 300 people may be a little bit disappointed.
	In the meantime, we've got 60 seconds left.
	We put your webpage up on there, CarrieLake.com.
	What do you need right now from people who believe in you?
	Do you need more lawyers?
	Do you need more money?
	Do you need volunteers?
	Carrie, you're speaking to the nation.
	We have great lawyers right now.
	I'm very confident in our case.
	It gets better by the day.
	As I said, whistleblowers and people who've been watching what's going on are coming forward.
	We are having to fund this ourselves.
	We've had some donors.
	We don't have the RNC's backing, so if anybody wants to go to our campaign website and make a donation there, they're welcome to do it.
	I'm not here begging for money.
	I will pay for this out of my own bank account if I have to, but we will not We will not sit here and allow them to destroy our elections in this country.
	If we don't stand up and fight now, Seb, we won't have a country.
	And we need to find out who the sunshine patriots are right now and get them out.
	We want the hardcore patriots.
	She's one of them.
	She'll be giving us updates when she's hosting for me when I'm in Israel.
	She's Carrie Lake.
	This is America First.
	God bless.
	God bless.
	All right, that was superb.
	Thank you, Carrie.
	Thank you, Seth.
	Enjoy your trip if I don't talk to you before then.
	All right.
	And then if there's anything I can help with on social.
	All right.
	My backup.
	- What are your references, Mr. G? - Wherever you wanna go.
	- Okay.
	Oops, sorry.
	All right, so I flipped it.
	I'll do prison fellowship here.
	Oh, can you play me cut six, John?
	And, um... Cut seven.
	On the right, you can see some of the main items that go into your Thanksgiving dinner.
	Stuffing up 16.
	We'll talk about the reasons in a second.
	Stuffing up 69%.
	Rolls up 22%.
	Pumpkin pie up 22%.
	Turkey, which is the biggest item on your Thanksgiving plate, not surprisingly, up 21%.
	Also up $5.
	Fully a third of that increase.
	And the only one that's down is cranberries, which are down 4%.
	Sorry, 13%.
	And I know somebody is going to ask me, why are cranberries down 13%?
	And the answer is because unlike a lot of the rest of what I'm going to tell you, cranberry crops were up 4%.
	Oh, they were.
	So there's a lot of cranberries out there.
	All right.
	So I put a lot of cranberries on it.
	As Americans continue to recover from the pandemic, my administration has been working to provide student debt relief All right.
	of working and middle-class families across the country.
	But Republican special interests and elected officials sued to deny this relief, even for their own constituents.
	But I'm completely confident my plan is legal.
	But right now, it's on hold because of these lawsuits.
	We're not going to back down, though, in our fight to give families breathing room.
	All right.
	Oh, 11. 11.
	How long is it?
	So attorneys for the accused shooter, Anderson Lee Aldrich, say in new court filings tonight that the suspect now identifies as non-binary.
	In a footnote... John, will you come in with the cranberries, come in with six.
	And Steve Ratner, Jeff, that's Obama's car czar, the clunker czar, right?
	Yeah, he's the guy that, remember, said on the election that if Trump was elected, the market was going to crash the next day.
	And never recover.
	Yeah, worldwide collapse, he said.
	Yep, coming in with cut six, no liner.
	Thank you.
	What does four want to talk about?
	What does four want to talk about?
	What does four want to talk about?
	On the right, you can see some of the main items that go into your Thanksgiving dinner.
	Stuffing up 16.
	We'll talk about the reasons in a second.
	Stuffing up 69%.
	Rolls up 22%.
	Pumpkin pie up 22%.
	Turkey, which is the biggest item on your Thanksgiving plate, not surprisingly, up 21%.
	Also up $5.
	Fully a third of that increase.
	And the only one that's down is cranberries, which are down 4%.
	Sorry, 13%.
	And I know somebody is going to ask me, why are cranberries down 13%?
	And the answer is, because unlike a lot of the rest of what I'm going to tell you, cranberry crops were up 4%.
	Oh, they were?
	So there's a lot of cranberries out there.
	All right, some good news.
	Silver lining.
	Put a lot of cranberries on it.
	Could you imagine sitting next to him at Thanksgiving dinner?
	I got some good news.
	The crop of cranberries.
	Yeah, there's a lot of cranberries.
	It's a silver lining.
	Yeah, I'm so exciting.
	Please, please calm down.
	That is Obama's casa, okay?
	Everything is more expensive except cranberries.
	What a boring oxygen thief.
	He's the guy who said, if Trump wins, if Trump wins in 2015, the stock market will crash.
	How's your 401k doing now, Mr. Ratner?
	Oh, I do wonder.
	All right, the call board is lit up.
	We're going to take your calls.
	But first, Thanksgiving is going to happen imminently.
	Hope you have a blessed one.
	But then just around the corner, It's going to be Christmas.
	What are you planning for Christmas?
	Jennifer Horne is going to be later on.
	She has already put up her Christmas tree.
	It's just wrong.
	It's wrong.
	It's just you cannot do that.
	In Europe we put it up on Christmas Eve.
	That's the right way to do it.
	Then you keep it up till Epiphany.
	Okay?
	You're going to have a fun Christmas.
	That's the plan.
	God bless you.
	Will you spare a thought for those who will not?
	One and a half million children in this nation who will be missing an essential part of their Christmas.
	Their mother or their father because they're in prison.
	This is what the Prison Fellowship does every year.
	They get a Christmas present from that incarcerated parent to that child with a message of love that they're not forgotten, that it's not their fault, it's not the child's fault that the parent is in prison and a children's Bible.
	That's because of you.
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	Let's go to Brooklyn!
	Alex, welcome to America First!
	Hey, Sebastian, thanks so much for taking the call.
	This cranberry thing is insane.
	This guy is going to have... Oh, that's the only thing he's going to have?
	It's like somebody invites you for dinner, And he says he's gonna have chicken nuggets and french fries and ketchup and then you get there and then he's like, oh, I didn't have time to make everything, so here's a bottle of ketchup.
	This guy's insane.
	That's not the problem, you know.
	Say you don't have the cranberries, at least you got the turkey and the other stuff, but... Yeah, right.
	Thanksgiving isn't built on the cranberries, right?
	If there's one thing you need, it's the turkey.
	Am I right?
	Yeah, it's insane.
	This guy doesn't have his priorities straight.
	I wouldn't want to be with him for a breakfast, for a brunch, for dinner, for anything.
	I was going about Arizona's situation over there.
	Here's my question.
	I can understand that they have a messed up counting system, which shouldn't be that way, but And they're taking a long time to count the ballots, but how was it that in the first two days they counted a few million votes, and then it took them a week and a half to count the other couple hundred thousand votes?
	What happened in those two days that they were able to count a few million votes, and then they had to take a whole week and a half to count another couple hundred thousand votes?
	It doesn't make sense.
	You nailed it.
	Something stinks.
	Something stinks.
	Did you hear Carrie Lake?
	Yes, I did.
	You agree with me, Alex?
	She's not going to give up?
	Oh, she's not going to give up.
	And even if she doesn't make it now, she's going to be back into politics and she's going to have a very strong position.
	I could see her as president one day because I've seen a lot of her and I'm a real fan of her passion and her motivations.
	I think she's fantastic.
	But first we've got to give her a try out on radio.
	Are you excited?
	She's going to guest host for me while I'm in Israel.
	That's great.
	Yeah, it's not like sometimes these politicians come on and they're just annoying as guests and even if they host, they just host because they were Politicians and they're well connected with the radio guys, but she really knows.
	She knows how to talk.
	She knows how to... Well, and she's just charismatic.
	She's exciting.
	She's high energy.
	So guys, I'll be in Israel with 300 of my listeners along with Dinesh D'Souza, but you got to keep listening to America First because we're going to have amazing guest hosts like Carrie Lake.
	Thank you, Alex.
	Have a blessed, blessed Thanksgiving.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Alright, so we did Prison Fellowship, we did PhD, we did My Pillar.
	- Yeah, okay. - You don't want the lines blocked, do you?
	Oh yeah, I do.
	Because I've got, I've got like one and a half segments, then Jen.
	Right?
	That's what I just said!
	Are you not listening, Jeff?
	You're not listening?
	Not when I'm on the phone.
	Why?
	You've got two ears.
	Can't you listen on one ear and on the other ear?
	Nope.
	That's why God gave you two ears.
	That's why producers have two ears.
	Right, John?
	Right, Guy?
	Two ears.
	One for the phone, one for the headset.
	Simple.
	Easy.
	Alright.
	We did that.
	We did that.
	Oh, the Emerson poll.
	We've got to do Musk.
	All right, before we go to the calls, I'm going to tee up that funny little Musk video.
	What is it?
	Five.
	I'll tee up five.
	It's too funny.
	The Stay Woke t-shirts?
	Yeah.
	Did you see Elon Musk's tweet about Michael Lindell's pillows?
	That's hilarious.
	He said somebody was like making fun of Mike and then Elon retweeted and says, hey are those pillows really that good?
	I said yeah I'll send you some.
	Michael Lindell's having a whole box of them shipped to Twitter HQ right now.
	Nice.
	And you said you're going to tee up Cut 5, correct?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Alright, copy that.
	I'm doing my pillow first, then I'll tee it up.
	Copy that. Copy that.
	Copy that.
	Constitution, America first!
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Welcome back.
	Did you see Elon Musk tweeted out?
	Somebody was making fun of our buddy Mike Lindell.
	And then Elon tweeted out, hey, are those my pillows so good?
	I said, yes!
	Can I send you some?
	Right now, Mike Lindell is having a box of my pillow pillows shipped to Twitter HQ.
	Elon, try them out.
	We want to know.
	In the meantime, check out this hilarious video.
	Elon was doing a little bit of, What is it?
	Fall cleaning, not spring cleaning at Twitter headquarters.
	And he found a closet full of certain t-shirts.
	Cut five.
	Here we are, uh, at the merch thing, and there's an entire... entire closet full of... of hashtag woke t-shirts.
	A closet full of at least a hundred folded t-shirts that say hashtag stay woke.
	I guess they could ship them over to YouTube.
	That's what my advice is to you, Elon Musk.
	When it comes to the best pillow in the world, I've been wrong for months now.
	Mike texted me this morning when I sent him the tweet from Elon.
	He said, no, no, no, no, Seb.
	Not 51 million.
	Try 72 million.
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	Let's go to line one, Jose, California, waiting very patiently.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey!
	Thank you so much for my call, and, oh, Carrie Lake, I must say, what a fighter, and I love her passion.
	But my question to you, Dr. Gorka, is I wanted to hear your comment about that hack Merrick Garland issuing a special counsel to investigate President Trump.
	And I want your listeners to remember all the sacrifices that President Trump and his family has made for America.
	Yeah.
	No, you're absolutely right.
	Brand new article.
	He just sent it to me last night or this morning from Lord Conrad Black on exactly this issue.
	The conclusion of the article is to your question.
	Never before have we had such a transparently biased decision, cynical decision, that 72 hours, less than 72 hours after President Trump announces his candidacy for the presidency, a new special counsel is launched to investigate Mar-a-Lago and January 6th, completely unrelated events, and by a judge whose wife is a hard, hard core dem, whose Donated to Biden, made a documentary about Michelle Obama.
	We know what this is.
	This is political persecution from the probably the most persecuted modern political figure in American history.
	So absolutely right.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
	And yes, Carrie Lake, she is a firebrand.
	And that's why I asked her to guest host my show while I'm in Israel.
	Let's go to Sean, New York City.
	Welcome back, Sean.
	Dr. Saab, before I get to the moment of levity, here's a question for you that dawned on me.
	If we ever take back the Congress and the White House, my question is, can we, after an investigation, show that Obama and Biden were responsible for the Russia hoax, and if indeed they were, which I believe they were, That we can take their federal pension away.
	Ooh, I like the way you think.
	I don't know if that's the genesis, if you look at it.
	I think it's more, we know it was Hillary's campaign, it's Robbie Mook, it's Brennan.
	Whether we can pin the actual sowing of the seeds onto Obama and Biden, I don't know.
	But the idea of whoever did it, including Comey, including Brennan, including Hayden, having their federal pensions revoked, I love that idea.
	That's superb.
	Stay on the line, Sean.
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	Thank you for taking my call, sir, and thank you for everything you do.
	You're a fighter just like Mrs. Lake.
	Listen, the Constitution says Election Day.
	Yeah.
	Let's go all the way to California.
	Joe, Joe, welcome to America First.
	Thank you for taking my call, sir, and thank you for everything you do.
	You're a fighter just like Mrs. Lake.
	Listen, the Constitution says Election Day.
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Voting three months.
	I'm exaggerating a bit.
	Why voting for such a long time is not unconstitutional?
	They're stealing our very constitutional right of having a vote, having a ballot.
	Because they come up with so many stupid ballots.
	They keep on counting ballots that we've never seen and maybe nobody ever voted with.
	You understand what I'm saying?
	No, absolutely.
	I mean, look, here's the issue, Joe.
	We may use the phrase election day, but the Constitution is very clear that the running of the election, even if it's a federal post, such as president or senator, is managed, is run by the individual states.
	So when it comes to the mechanics, the technicalities, the regulations, it is the individual state houses of the state that decide how they run that election.
	Whether it's one day, whether it's a week, whether they mail out ballots, whether they have 40 days, like in Virginia, or 50 days, like in Pennsylvania.
	So if we want this fix, Joe, I don't want to have federalized elections.
	Lord preserve us.
	Could you imagine if Nancy was in charge of elections?
	No.
	Elections should be run by the states.
	But they have to do it properly.
	They have to stop the insanity of the ballot harvesting and the drop boxes.
	And in those states where the Democrats have control and we can't fix that, I'm sorry, we've just got to swallow our pride and we have to out-mobilize the left at the grassroots level.
	We have to harvest.
	We have to organize.
	We have to have Republicans collect more ballots than the Democrats.
	Not break any law, but out-organize them.
	Great questions, guys.
	God bless all of you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Oh yeah.
	All right.
	Why would they even publish such garbage?
	300 respondents?
	Ryan Saavedra finds a way to write the same different story four times a day.
	I don't know what he was doing.
	I know he was on the board.
	I found out he was on the board after he was on the board.
	And that was it.
	Hey pal, it's dad.
	actually publishes it I know can you play me eight nine ten I don't know what he was doing I know he was on the board I found out he was on the board after he was on the board and that was it hey pal it's dad it's 8:15 on Wednesday night the chance to be called Nothing urgent.
	Just wanted to talk to you.
	I thought the article, at least the thing on online, that's going to be printed tomorrow morning at the Times was good.
	I need you clear.
	Anyway, if you get a chance, give me a call.
	I love you.
	Why is there so many voicemails?
	Does Hunter never answer when his dad calls?
	Thank
	you. .
	Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	So the non-binary shooter at the gay transgender blah blah blah club was stopped by a heterosexual white military veteran.
	Huh.
	I guess toxic masculinity is good now.
	Weird, right?
	What's even weirder is what the Daily Wire is doing.
	Hey, Mr. G, you gave me this article from this very famous polling company the Daily Wire is quoting.
	I mean, everybody has heard of Neighborhood Research and Media, right?
	When you want polling, you go to Neighborhood Research and Media, right?
	That's the first thing I thought when I read the article.
	I said, well, I've never heard of this poll company.
	I mean, there's Gallup, and then there's Neighborhood Research.
	Yes.
	That's at the top.
	And the results, it's the Daily Wire, surprise surprise, saying, oh, look!
	Ron DeSantis got 32% over President Trump's 30%.
	I mean, that's it, right?
	I mean, if the Daily Wire is using neighborhood research, then we're done, right?
	Yeah, but you know why they published it?
	Why?
	Because DeSantis isn't winning any of the polls that have 1,000 or over.
	Oh, oh, hang on, hang on.
	You're right.
	This has 300 respondents, which you can't have a survey under 1,000.
	And then the poll that was done by Emerson College, you know, the famous Emerson College, with three times as many respondents.
	Weird!
	This is from Breitbart.
	They got 55% for President Trump and 24% for Ron.
	Isn't that strange, Jeff?
	There was also one they were pushing last week, too, that was also the same thing.
	It was 300 people.
	I think it's basically stopped the count.
	As soon as Ron goes ahead, no matter what it is, you just stop the poll right there.
	Oh, stop!
	We got our results.
	Stop asking people questions.
	All right, let's squeeze in one more call before Jennifer.
	Brent in Los Angeles has been very patient.
	Hello, Brent.
	A blessed Thanksgiving to you, Great Gorka.
	And to you, my friend.
	What would you like to say?
	What would you like to ask?
	Well, first, I also wanted to say Thanksgiving to Jeff, Eric, and to all of Salem's saints at America First.
	Stop it.
	What a pay rise next.
	Carry on.
	And for this Thanksgiving, the most magnificent gift and guest We're actually going.
	to our nation's sacred tables is God's love, truth, and our recommitment to his commandment to proclaim justice throughout the land.
	And when you and Dinesh soon ascend to Israel, I hope you'll be able to visit the city of David's archeological dig, which every day is unearthing more of the ancient pilgrimage road, stretching from Silwan Pool to the Temple Mount.
	- Where we're actually going, how did you know, Brent? - Oh, well, I should have known.
	I've never been to that part.
	I've been to Israel maybe 10 times, but I've never been to the City of David excavation.
	They mentioned it to us especially.
	I said, yes, let's do it!
	It's new.
	And, you know, this is the road that millions of people from all faiths would walk to seek and thank God.
	Right.
	And so it's just like the evidence is there.
	The left likes to say there were no Jews in Israel and the Muslims say there were no Jews.
	No, we got the proof.
	Yeah, I think there's no question about that.
	Have a blessed Thanksgiving.
	We have an amazing second hour for you, an amazing third hour.
	We've got the owner of the laptop repair store, you know, Hunter Biden, that laptop thingy.
	You don't want to miss a second.
	Stay with us here on America First on the Salem News Channel.
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	We'll give you that and so much more.
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	That's the second hour of America First with me, Sebastian Gorka.
	Thank you.
	Hi, can you hear me?
	Yes, perfect.
	Great.
	Perfect.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Jeff is talking to Dr. Corker right now.
	Okay, no problem.
	Are you guys gonna dial in on Skype?
	Sure.
	Okay, thanks.
	I'm gonna do that right now.
	That one, right?
	Do I need to be down more?
	You're good.
	You're perfect.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Isn't that beautiful?
	You say so.
	All right.
	We got you connected.
	Great.
	And Dr. G is going and getting into a seat right now.
	No prob.
	What was that big sigh I heard?
	Me?
	I'm exhausted.
	I don't know why.
	I'm tired.
	Don't worry.
	I'm going to find the energy.
	I'm finding the energy.
	We're going to have some fun?
	Yeah.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Thanks to you.
	It's the end of a, of a, you know, this week is always, I think the roughest, like to try to get best ofs done because you're, you know, you're giving yourself time off, but.
	Hey guys, would you come in with cut 11?
	Just to bump in with it.
	Copy that, coming in with cut 11.
	Then I can finish my M&M's.
	Give yourself some time.
	Snack time!
	You know what it's like.
	I know.
	Like I said, you just gotta get it all done.
	Afternoon energy, man.
	Yep.
	Can you put her down for me a little bit?
	Thank you.
	So, attorneys for the accused shooter Anderson Lee Aldrich say in new court filings tonight that the suspect now identifies as non-binary.
	In a footnote to a motion asserting legal privileges, the public defenders say, quote, Anderson Aldrich is non-binary.
	They use they, them pronouns.
	And for the purposes of all formal filings, will be addressed as Mix Aldrich.
	So in other words, not Mr. or Ms.
	Joining me now, CNN political commentator Errol Lewis.
	Also back with me, Al Franken and Joe Walsh.
	I don't know what to say about that.
	I mean, that's not anything that we had heard from his background.
	You know, people have been looking into his background.
	And I don't know if anybody here.
	Are you guys lawyers?
	I mean, you know, I don't know if I don't know what to say about that.
	I mean, that's what he's now saying.
	It sounds like they're trying to prepare a defense against a hate crimes charge.
	That's the least of his problems, legally speaking, but it looks like they're trying to build some kind of sympathy or at least confusion on the question of whether or not this was purely motivated by hate.
	I mean, that is what it sounds like.
	We'll wait to see.
	Wow.
	Did you hear her misgender the killer?
	Four times!
	That's in Camerata!
	She's gonna be fired!
	Bigotry!
	Hatred!
	Called him he!
	He?
	He's mix!
	He's they, them, or whatever.
	Wow.
	It's amazing they're mentalists.
	They have people who can say, yeah, this isn't true.
	It's a defense ploy.
	That's incredible.
	The power!
	The brain power!
	Stunning.
	Let's see if she agrees.
	She's grinning there in the background, getting ready for her Thanksgiving family reunions.
	She's our West Coast warrior princess.
	Jennifer Horne, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, and happy Thanksgiving to all of you.
	Thank you kindly.
	We will discuss tactics, strategies for the family reunions momentarily.
	But isn't that outrageous, what Alison Camerata just did?
	What's outrageous is she sounds depressed, right?
	Doesn't she?
	She's like, ugh, he just came out as transgender.
	He's not, he's non-binary.
	He's not wearing a Trump hat.
	Oh, I mean, it's disgusting.
	You have these shootings and you have the news media just rushing to try to not figure out what's going on or tell the story about the motivation, what's behind it.
	Instead, they want to create a narrative so they can use it politically against the other side of the aisle.
	You know, I think it's interesting that you had the, I don't even know who that person was, but the lawyer there who said, well, I'm sure he's just trying to avoid hate crime charges, so he's making this up.
	Now, I'm sorry, but if you're in the, in this LGBTQ+, whatever it is, community, are you a little offended by that?
	Because I thought this is about how you identify and it's about people being people.
	It's not about making things up for your own gain.
	I mean, that doesn't sound right at all.
	Look at the evidence!
	This guy has had a troubled life.
	Troubled parents.
	Father is a porn star.
	Porn star and an MMA fighter.
	I mean, that's a combo for you, right?
	And then the mother, who by the way has a connection to local politics in California, Randy Voepel, is the kid's grandfather.
	Hasn't had anything to do with them in 10 years.
	But because he happened to say that the January 6th attack was like an American Revolution, Well, of course, he's now a verified insurrectionist who obviously must have influenced this kid to go out and shoot up a gay bar.
	Well, that's totally not true.
	Randy Voepel has not even had anything to do with this person for 10 years.
	There's obviously stuff going on.
	The mother was a suspected arsonist.
	They dropped charges against her, charged her with criminal mischief instead of arson.
	All of these things, in and out of the law, both of his parents.
	And then you have the story of the bullying, which I think Is all you need to know.
	I didn't hear that.
	So tell our listeners, tell us about the bullying.
	There was a YouTube video that was brought up against this guy.
	Part of the reason he changed his name is to get away from his father, I guess, to try to get a new start.
	But also he was being bullied extensively online.
	They were calling him like a gay Asian pedophile.
	Where the Asian thing came from, I don't know.
	This guy appears to be a white kid, but he does—maybe, maybe he's gay.
	Maybe there was something going on with him where he felt stuck inside of his body or he didn't like the sexual—you don't know until you know.
	But of course, it must just be to avoid hate crime charges because he really must be one of those Trump supporters.
	All right, so you've got papers, you've got diplomas in this stuff, media, communications, you are the hardest working person I know in radio.
	Here's the, you know, the practical question.
	Since it was dropped late last night, somebody texted me like 11 o'clock at night, oopsie!
	He's demanding to be called mix and he's non-binary.
	Now that that's, you know, a court document, that what Biden said right after the shooting is that this is part of the, quote, epidemic of violence against the LGBTQI... A-plus?
	A-plus?
	I know.
	Whatever.
	Somebody called it the Alphabet Mafia on my show.
	Right.
	I like that.
	That's good.
	LGBTQI plus women of color.
	I kind of missed that stat.
	All the black trans women being killed.
	Anyway, now that that's totally collapsed, is this story going to disappear as fast as the Waukesha killer at Christmas?
	A thousand percent.
	And I think your story out of Virginia will also disappear relatively quickly.
	Someone who goes in, the store manager goes in and shoots up the break room, I think you're going to have another case of that just disappearing because it's not going to fit the narrative that is effective for the mainstream news media.
	And, you know, I take issue for so many reasons with what's going on because nobody's doing anything to make this problem better.
	We still have a young man problem.
	We still have the destruction.
	of the nuclear family that really tends to be at the core of all of these things.
	And everybody is so just intent on jockeying around and trying to associate blame to Republicans and conservatives and to Donald Trump himself.
	It's it's grotesque.
	We're never going to fix this problem if we don't get serious about it.
	Well, and, you know, you hit the nail on the head.
	All of these shooters, I mean, I think, what, nine out of ten of these shooters are men in their early twenties, who most often have no father figure at home, who have a, either they're on some kind of psychotropic drug, they've had some kind of mental counseling, and, or, They've had run-ins with the police on multiple occasions.
	The idea that this person threatens to kill his mother with a pipe bomb and then is arrested, is charged, and the local DA Yeah, and that's the path that I went down on our program.
	You know, if we want to figure out what can stop or at least tamp down some of these crimes, we need to start getting serious about actually prosecuting crime in this country.
	And I don't know much about this DA, but I would guess that there are a lot of liberal DAs across the country who just let charges go.
	And instead, you hear Biden and others saying we need to ban AR-15s, we need to ban guns, more of that.
	The red flag laws would have worked in Colorado if this DA had been serious about prosecuting the crime when it happened the first time.
	And this isn't the only time that we've heard about these mass attacks.
	When these kids, these young men, were known to authorities and they were let slip through the system.
	They were just slipping through the cracks.
	They could have been stopped.
	But instead, we try to blame a political party rather than a real problem.
	Yeah, I mean, to that, we have Kathy Hochul, the new governor of New York.
	This incredible, very short cut.
	She explains what the problem in New York is.
	This is cut three, unbelievable spin, play cut.
	White supremacists, right-wing extremists, and domestic terrorists trying to stoke fear in the hearts of New Yorkers.
	They want us to think twice about our safety before we worship, before we get on a subway, before we go dancing with our friends.
	So, so, the white... I'm trying to parse this.
	So, what is she saying?
	Jen, help me out here.
	There is no crime on the subway, and it's all being invented by white supremacists?
	Look, we have loosened up so many restrictions in this country.
	We have made it easy and we have incentivized people to commit crimes.
	She's guilty of that.
	The leadership of California is guilty of that.
	And she can talk all she wants about white supremacy and she can gaslight people all she wants.
	But the truth is that until she focuses on crime, I really believe her political days are numbered.
	Lee Zeldin did a great job going after her with one simple message.
	He didn't go all over the place.
	He wasn't on multiple fronts or multiple issues.
	He talked about crime.
	And if you start to dig down in the numbers and the success that he had in that election, even though he didn't win at the end of the day, he made huge progress.
	Did you see the story with Asian Americans?
	With all of these groups that typically throw their votes to Democrats, they're failing us.
	And, you know, we see incremental change happening in my state of California.
	You're seeing it in New York.
	At some point that boomerang is going to come back to the center where we cannot let these leftists ruin the country because they want to burn it down so they can rebuild it.
	And allegedly my buddy, who I've campaigned for as congressman, is considering a run against Rona Romney McDaniel.
	We need him.
	We need Lee Zeldin.
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	All right.
	Did I see it?
	Yeah.
	No!
	What was it?
	Oh, okay.
	Let's show this to Jed.
	So he's doing some spring cleaning a little bit late at Twitter headquarters and this is what he found in one of the cupboards and he posted it online.
	This is real.
	Play cut.
	Here we are at the merch thing and there's an entire Entire closet full of hashtag woke t-shirts.
	A whole closet full of stay woke t-shirts.
	It doesn't surprise me, but it kills me.
	It kills me.
	Oh my God.
	I never posted it.
	I'm sorry.
	He's growing up.
	You know, I can't.
	Okay.
	I'm going to say something nice.
	It must be Thanksgiving.
	Kevin McCarthy?
	What?
	No.
	Come on.
	Cut the cord.
	Cut the cord.
	Come on.
	Go into the border and saying he's going to hold the hearings on the border to force Democrats to go there?
	Oh, he said that?
	He said it yesterday.
	He said that he wants to have... But what about the other thing he said yesterday?
	Oh, yeah.
	What did he say?
	He said... Where's Jeff?
	There's nothing.
	We might consider impeaching Mayorkas.
	What do you mean, mine?
	Oh, because he wants him to resign.
	And then he said he was going to... So he said he wants him to resign.
	If he doesn't resign, they're going to hold an inquiry, basically, and that could lead to impeachment.
	Yeah.
	But he said that all of those hearings on the border, he wants to hold on the border to force Democrats to actually go there and see it.
	That's actually good.
	I bet somebody like Gates or MTG told him to do that.
	Well, that's what I think.
	I think he's made a deal with these guys so that... Oh, she was behind closed doors with him for 90 minutes.
	I think she's the key.
	I know Gates is still not publicly out for him yet, but I think Marjorie Taylor Greene went to him and said, because he's been since, I mean, on the Sunday shows, saying he's still going to take Ilan Omar off of her committee assignments.
	He's still, we'll see.
	I know Grant and I were like, are we saying something nice about him today?
	Outrageous.
	What's going on here?
	All right.
	I'm going to do prison fellowship here guys.
	Oh, Alex, do you have the audio from yesterday?
	Yes.
	Alright, can you come in with that?
	Yes.
	But Elon is good.
	I don't know.
	Oh, and did you see what he did this morning?
	With what?
	Somebody was making fun of Mike Lindell.
	No!
	What happened?
	Some stupid ass did an aggressive at-tweet and then Musk jumps in and said, he said, Are those MyPillow pillows really that good?
	So I retweeted him, and I said, yes, and let me send you some.
	I immediately sent the tweet to Mike, and they're having a box of them shipped to Twitter headquarters right now.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	That is so great.
	Good for Mike for doing that.
	You don't even need a promo code, Elon.
	I mean, you can afford it.
	I know.
	You don't even need it.
	But code word Gorka.
	That's funny.
	They are the best pillows.
	I tell you every time.
	And then Mike corrected me today because I keep saying 51 million and said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	He texted and said, we've sold 72 million pillows.
	Isn't that incredible?
	I mean, if you think there's a lot of double beds in America, that's like maybe a pillow for almost every bed in America.
	Every bed.
	That's crazy.
	Wow.
	It's crazy.
	They're great pillows, though.
	I know.
	My wife doesn't get it.
	I love it.
	I love them.
	She has like a stack of format, you know, like these things ladies do, like 48 pillows on their bed.
	I throw them all off.
	I put one... I like one pillow, too.
	I'm very simplistic.
	I put one squishy one, a soft one underneath, my pillow on top, and I am done.
	Yep.
	Well, I just love that you can fold it kind of into your neck.
	Yeah.
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	All right, we have an amazing guest coming up later this hour.
	We have the owner, yes, the owner of the computer repair shop where Hunter Biden left the laptops, guys.
	You do not want to miss it.
	We will be joined by John Paul Mack here on America First.
	But first, what are you going to do tomorrow?
	It's very dangerous.
	I give you due warning now.
	If you ever have a radio show, or if you just go on a radio show of a friend of yours, it's risky.
	Because when they're a friend of yours, you kind of lower the guard.
	You let stuff out that maybe, maybe, maybe you shouldn't.
	And I did that this Tuesday on Jennifer Horn's show.
	She asked me about politics and Thanksgiving.
	And I admit it, there's somebody in the family I married into who does not listen to Salem or Newsmax and probably thinks Breitbart is a coven of the devil.
	And my lovely mother-in-law will be hosting us for Thanksgiving tomorrow.
	So I know your dear mother is not exactly a Trump supporter, so what have you and Grant, what tactics, what strategies have you come up for for the next 48 hours?
	You'll be happy to know I didn't rat you out to your lovely wife.
	Oh really?
	Because she's on the show after me every Tuesday.
	I thought, what am I doing right now?
	I'm actually doing this live on radio and my wife's going to be on the same show in a couple of hours.
	I might be in big doo-doo.
	I did not.
	I did not rat you out with everything that you said.
	I said, oh, Seb says he just kind of keeps it low key.
	She's like, yeah, we don't talk about politics anymore.
	We throw it all out.
	So look, you can do that.
	But what fun is that?
	You want to throw a few potatoes around the table?
	I don't know.
	You know, I come from the place, my grandmother was so prim and proper, my dad's mom, I loved her so much, like, I don't believe that soulmates are just romantic, I think you can have connections with people, like, and my grandmother and I were so connected.
	And she would hate the fact that I've become the person that I am today, that I have to bring up politics at every dinner.
	But I don't try to start an argument, I just really want to hear what people think, because if I can figure out how they think, maybe we can fix them.
	Right?
	So, I don't know.
	You're on a mission, lady.
	You are on a mission.
	Look, you told me I have to save the state of California, so this is what I do.
	So I just, I always like to ask questions to at least, you know, kind of find out how people think.
	And of course there's a few arguments.
	And how has it worked out for you in the past, Miss Horn?
	Nobody's ever stormed away from the table, so it's fine.
	We always have a nice time.
	If you do it with a sense of humor, I find you can always bring it back.
	But, you know, if it does get a little wild, and I think you gave some great advice, if you know you're not going to be able to change anybody's mind, and it's family, family first, you know, maybe just talk about TV shows or books that you've read and avoid the topics of politics.
	I always like to throw a few in there because I like to see how people think and how they make up their mind.
	We have to understand how people think when they think differently than we do.
	All right, here's the question.
	Yeah.
	Since you have engaged on these issues, have you ever convinced anybody, maybe not to become a conservative, but on a given topic, whatever it is, did anybody say?
	Oh, a thousand percent.
	Really?
	Who are you talking to?
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	I'll always, look, and I don't get, you know me, I'm a happy warrior.
	I don't want to tear people apart.
	That's not fun.
	That's my job.
	No, you're kind of a happy warrior, too, but you're tough.
	You're tough.
	I don't like to get that around.
	I know.
	But, I mean, there have been issues where people have said, well, I guess you are right about that.
	Now, I don't know if that changes.
	I mean, my mom, for instance.
	My mom will sometimes come and vote alongside me for certain races.
	Now, sometimes I have to make deals with her to get her to do that.
	How do you bribe her?
	Is it pecan pie?
	She loves it.
	You know she loves it.
	And it's not pecan, okay?
	So, pecan.
	Pecan pie.
	So, yeah, sometimes it's pie.
	Sometimes it's just, you know what?
	Mom, come on.
	You're voting for all of these people.
	Why not, you know, throw your support behind so-and-so?
	Or, you know, it's good.
	This is a friend of ours.
	I mean, I got her to vote for Larry Elder for governor.
	That's a pretty big deal.
	Wow.
	And she gets so mad when I actually tell people that she voted for Larry Elder for governor.
	She's like, you're ruining my street cred with my teacher friend.
	You got her to vote against the hair?
	Yeah, because he's our friend.
	She sits next to him at parties.
	How could she not vote for someone that she likes and knows and trusts?
	And if you know somebody, and even if they may not line up politically, you know what their intentions are, you know what they're about, you might as well give them your support.
	So she's done that before.
	And I applaud her for that.
	That's why Grant will say that his mother's worse, because apparently his mother is more liberal than mine.
	Both of his parents, right?
	Both of his parents are pretty tough cookies.
	I don't know.
	I think you have the conversations, but just do it with good humor.
	Don't let it get too heated, because you know what?
	At the end of the day, your family is more important.
	But I have to be true to who I tell people to engage in the hard conversations when I go out and speak to groups, because for too long, conservatives have been socially conditioned to avoid them.
	So we have to have those conversations.
	But if you do it with good humor, What's the harm in that?
	It's a little fun.
	A little spice to your turkey.
	Or do what I do.
	Don't go.
	Just stay home.
	Or just stay home.
	Right.
	So we've got a few seconds left.
	On your show, we settled what the best pies are for me.
	It's pecan.
	Apple is number one.
	Pecan second.
	What is your favorite part of the whole meal?
	I'm going to say, I'm like, you know, I like the sides.
	I like the mashed potatoes.
	I like the green beans.
	Come on.
	There's only one right answer.
	What is it?
	Come on, guys.
	I mean, I know I'm an immigrant.
	The stuffing!
	Oh, the stuffing.
	This year, I'm doing sausage, apple, cranberry, walnut stuffing.
	You like that?
	Walnut.
	Ooh, that's the little Czech influence there, I can tell you.
	You know exactly, that's the Czech influence.
	A little Central European influence there.
	All right, save me some, save me some.
	I will.
	All right, she is the co-host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590.
	Also, crntalk.com.
	So excited to Talk about Thanksgiving with her.
	Follow her at Jennifer Horn and don't throw too much of that, you know, mashed potato around tomorrow.
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	Larry, that's a big deal.
	She did.
	She voted for Larry, she voted for Villanueva, and she voted for Rick Caruso this time around.
	So, you know, little... And I said, they're both Democrats.
	Why not just vote for them?
	What is the truth about that Sheriff's Academy?
	Oh, okay.
	So, they're saying that the guy fell asleep.
	Now, that's what his lawyer says.
	But the reason I think it's BS is that the guy who actually stopped the crash was a good Samaritan who had to break the window of the car and pull him out because he wouldn't take his foot off of the accelerator.
	So hang on, the car was motionless, but the engine was revving?
	He was still, he still had his foot on the accelerator, and he was, because he ran into a light pole, so the guy had to break the glass and pull him out, and he pushed him on the cement, which is why he was all beat up, if you've seen his picture.
	So sure, they want to sue this guy for pulling him out of the car, but Why?
	If you're asleep, you're not... They heard him accelerate.
	I don't understand.
	You can't accelerate.
	You can't accelerate if you're asleep.
	So I think... And again, it's just a feeling.
	His family's supposed to be surrounded in law enforcement.
	Again, this is just between... I mean, I'm not speculating on the air about it because if you have...
	A lot of family that's in law enforcement.
	His dad's in law enforcement.
	I guess all of his family.
	What if you have the hate out for him?
	You feel like you don't get attention, so you run down.
	Right.
	And you got a target of 75 recruits.
	Yeah.
	But who knows?
	I mean, I don't know if that's true.
	Did he get out without bail?
	Oh, yeah.
	They let him out because they didn't have enough evidence.
	So they let him out.
	And then some of the cadets lost their limbs, right?
	They were amputated.
	Oh, yeah.
	And one's clinging to life.
	They think one's not going to make it.
	And five of them lost limbs or had traumatic head injuries.
	So I mean, he took down 25 of them.
	I know.
	I mean, it's just crazy.
	And hopefully it is an accident.
	Maybe he just did fall asleep.
	And you know, I'm totally wrong.
	But it just feels weird that if someone has to pull you out of the car to get you to stop accelerating, I don't know.
	But on a happier note, Happy Thanksgiving.
	And to you, my dear.
	To all of you guys.
	Enjoy.
	And yeah, we'll talk next week.
	Have fun.
	You too.
	Oh, and I'm going to send you Christmas tree pictures.
	I didn't do it.
	I heard Wonder Woman.
	I know!
	I've been telling everybody, Jennifer Hohn's got a Christmas tree out.
	I heard Wonder Woman.
	I forgot to send you a picture of Wonder Woman ornaments, so I will do that.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Best to your dad and mom.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	Bye.
	All right.
	This is free now, right?
	He's in D.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Can you play a cut?
	This is Dad, I called to tell you I love you.
	Love you more than the whole world, pal.
	Can I get some help?
	I don't know what to do.
	I know.
	You don't either.
	All right.
	I'm going to tee up cut one here, guys.
	Cut one.
	Oh, and what did you give me, Jeff?
	Is this my pillow to record?
	Okay.
	A man.
	A legend.
	A legal immigrant.
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	All right, we've got some calls I gotta take.
	But first, this cut is unbelievable.
	I thought this was a deep fake when I heard it.
	It's not.
	It's real.
	It's Karl Schwab.
	Absolutely shocking.
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	Whether it's the FBI, whether it's the big box stores, they hate him.
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	Let's have his back and treat yourself.
	It's Thanksgiving tomorrow.
	It'll be Christmas soon enough.
	He's got some amazing offers for the Christmas season right now.
	Especially on the MySlippers.
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	So you know all these things about the World Economic Forum and the conspiracy of the Davos elite.
	This next cut is kind of like, okay, when you have the man behind the World Economic Forum, when you have Klaus Schwab say that the world's biggest dictatorship, a place with Lao Gai gulag systems, is a good model You probably should pay attention.
	This is Klaus Schwab, the founder of the World Economic Forum Katwan.
	So we have to define how the world should look like, which we want to come out of this transformation period.
	I respect China's achievements, which are tremendous over the last over 40 years.
	I think it's a role model for many countries, but I think also we should leave it to each country to make its own decision what system it wants to adapt.
	And I think we should be very careful in imposing systems, but the Chinese model is certainly a very attractive model for quite a number of countries.
	The Chinese model is quite an attractive model.
	Work camps Prison camps.
	Execution for political purposes.
	Forced organ harvesting.
	Quite an attractive model.
	I'll just leave that there for you.
	Let's go to our friend in Livermore.
	Line one.
	Hooray!
	Welcome back, buddy!
	Ray.
	Oh, hi.
	Are you there?
	Yeah.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	Do you have any liberals, do you have any crazy people in your family who are going to be around the table tomorrow?
	Oh yes, yes.
	I'm surrounded by them.
	Oh, we lost him again.
	What you have to do is you've got to take the interview technique.
	You've just got to ask questions.
	Just back away.
	They already know you're the bad guy.
	They already know that you're responsible.
	You keep breaking up.
	You keep breaking up.
	Are you mobile?
	Are you jumping out of a plane as we speak?
	Hear me now.
	Testing.
	One, two.
	Yes.
	Ask questions.
	Don't give any opinion.
	All right, so you use the Socratic method.
	You just ask them questions?
	Yes.
	Ask questions.
	Don't give any opinion.
	Questions.
	And what kind of results have you had, Ray?
	If you're patient enough, you tie themselves in knots because there's no philosophy of thinking.
	It's just random feelings tied together.
	And have they ever got to a point where they're just so frustrated either get up from the table or throw something at you?
	So we're going to go.
	We're breaking up.
	All right, let's get his number because I want to hear from him and I need Ray's input before Thanksgiving because he is a former paratrooper.
	So get his number from him, Jeff, and let's call him back on the VIP line because he's just too important not to hear from because we mean it here when we say the most important part of the show is you.
	It's why we're here.
	You are the best in the business.
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	That's why I always want input from you.
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	Next up, John Paul Mack, the owner of the...
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	But I'm completely confident my plan is legal.
	But right now, it's on hold because of these lawsuits.
	We're not going to back down, though, in our fight to give families breathing room.
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	Is he phone?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Do you think Bannon will be reinstated on Twitter?
	He never used Twitter.
	Or the War Room account?
	Oh, it's the War Room account?
	Is that banned?
	Yeah.
	Look, if President Trump's been reinstated, I don't see why not.
	Yeah, somebody made him an account in his name and he never used it.
	All right, mics off.
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	Do you remember that interview that Axios did with Joe Biden about Hunter Biden and his business dealings?
	I just want to remind you of what he said not too long ago.
	Cut eight.
	Play cut.
	I don't know what he was doing.
	I know he was on the board.
	I found out he was on the board after he was on the board.
	And that was it.
	And there's nobody... Well, you've had a lot of time.
	Isn't it something you want to get to the bottom of?
	No, because I trust my son.
	Well that's weird because we have evidence that that was a lie.
	We have actual voicemail recordings from Biden.
	Here is one from his laptop.
	This is Cut 9.
	Joe Biden telling his son, hey, don't worry, you're in the clear.
	Play Cut.
	Hey pal, it's dad.
	It's 8.15 on Wednesday night.
	Give me a chance to give you a call.
	Nothing urgent.
	I just want to talk to you.
	I thought the article, at least the thing on online, that's going to be printed tomorrow on The Times was good.
	I'll make it clear.
	Anyway, if you get a chance, give me a call.
	I love you.
	That's weird, because that New York Times article was about his business interests, his shady ones in Ukraine and elsewhere, and he said, it's okay, you're in the clear.
	How do we have all this evidence?
	It's thanks to a very brave man, who I think is wearing a tamar shanty in most of his televisual interviews.
	He is the owner of the Data Recovery Computer Store, and he's with us across the nation right now.
	John Paul Mac Isaac, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, sir, for having me on the show.
	So let's just, for those who are unfamiliar with the original story, tell me if any of this is wrong and what else should be added.
	Hunter Biden comes to your store, the Mac shop.
	He has two computers that are water damaged.
	And it's not just fixing them, but he requests that you do a data recovery.
	And then he signs the document, his signature, his ID.
	And the form that he fills in to leave the hard drives or the computers there says that if they are abandoned within a certain amount of time, the property reverts to you and you become the owner.
	Is that the essentials of how this story begins?
	That's pretty much it.
	One thing that a lot of the unfriendly media is trying to press is that this was a repair.
	This was never a repair.
	He wanted me to recover the data off of these liquid damage devices, which unfortunately only one of them I was able to check in.
	He left that shop with two other ones.
	There were three total.
	So there was no repair, and I was sleeping around.
	He actually hired me, but never paid.
	Okay, and then he abandoned them with you?
	And then what happened?
	You were trying to recover the data as you'd been commissioned, and then you saw things that made you say, oh my gosh, I should tell someone.
	Tell us how that developed.
	So, unfortunately, because it was a liquid-damaged machine, I was unable to do what's called a forensic clone, or a complete copy of the drive.
	I had to literally go in there and manually drag and drop.
	So file by file, you had to move it over to an undamaged hard drive.
	And then when the computer would shut down, because again it was severely liquid damaged, I'd have to start the process up, verify what I had copied, and then continue the copy.
	It's during that verification process that I realized the extent of Hunter's personal activities, as well as some other documents that kind of raised some concerns.
	Kenny, what kind of concerns?
	That he's doing business with the wrong types of people, or crimes could have been committed?
	Why did you reach out to the FBI?
	Well, I can tell you I did not go to the FBI because of a guy with crack and gun problems.
	I went to the FBI because I saw a blatant pay-for-play scheme running from and out of the office of the Vice President.
	I saw a lot of money exchanging hands with a lot of our adversaries, and it begs the question, What do our enemies have on the Bidens that could leverage decisions that are being made now?
	We're talking to the owner of the Mac Shop.
	He's John Paul Mac Isaac.
	He's the person who was commissioned by Hunter Biden to recover data from his water-damaged computer.
	The book just released that you need to get right now for the full story is called American Injustice, My Battle to Expose the Truth.
	What did the FBI say to you when you came to them with this earth-shattering information, Mr. Mac Isaac?
	So, in October of 2019, I had my father take a copy of Hunter's laptop to the FBI in Albuquerque because I was fearful of repercussions on the East Coast, and I also wanted to keep my identity a secret.
	I had to live 10 miles from Joe's house and have a business to run and a community to interact with.
	So, my father went to the FBI.
	The FBI didn't want to touch the drive with a 10-foot pole.
	They kicked him out of his office, told him to lawyer up, and never talked about this stuff.
	About a month later, the FBI re-approached us.
	They came to my home, and mid-November 2019, I tried to give them the laptop again.
	They refused, tried to voice my concerns.
	During this time, we were going through the impeachment hearing, so I thought it was very important that this laptop at least be entered as evidence so that the White House had some light to stand on.
	And unfortunately, they still rejected the laptop.
	They finally came to my shop December 9th of 2019 with the subpoena.
	And I quite happily handed over everything.
	I was getting everything I wanted.
	I wanted the laptop out of my shop.
	I wanted a phone number I could call to an FBI agent should something happen.
	And I thought it was over.
	Unfortunately, the laptop was never admitted as evidence.
	I realized that the FBI cared more about protecting the Bidens than they did about the truth.
	And that laptop is probably in the Potomac.
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	We're with a man who I will call the conservative and manly version of Ben Shapiro.
	He is rageaholic, rageafist.
	I think I made him laugh.
	Welcome to America First One-on-One.
	Indeed.
	I'd like to thank the little people, but Shapiro had nothing to do with it.
	All right, so for those of you who, for those of our listeners and viewers who missed our brief chat, what was it?
	Was it a week ago?
	Crazy, maybe two weeks ago.
	Insanity on the most, the bestest movie ever made, Blade Runner.
	Go back and watch it.
	Go to my feeds on social media.
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	I did indeed!
	You can see it on YouTube.
	Alright, go to TheRageaholic on YouTube, follow this man at RazorFist, Razor with a zero instead of a no.
	First things first, who is, can you just tell us a little bit, I know you're on the front line of democracy or whatever is left of it in Arizona, but you have a rather unusual métier, let's say.
	You are clearly into computer games, into heavy metal, but you are one of the most Sagacious political commentators on YouTube as far as I'm concerned.
	So how was RazörFist born and what is this?
	Explain this melding to us and where you hail from.
	I am, of course, from the fiery depths.
	I am from Phoenix, Arizona, but I was always politically active.
	I started out in political radio, so actually video games and the heavy metal and all that is a relatively recent concern, comparatively.
	I went to school for political science, and I was actually, I went to a prominent journalism school out here whose identity you can probably infer, but it's named after somebody Whose credibility, perhaps, is in doubt now in 2022.
	Yeah, but I got into politics first.
	I actually kind of got into this in reverse.
	Other people on YouTube, I think it's been the opposite, where they've gotten more political as society has steadily descended into the lowest chambers of madness.
	So, for those of you who are just listening and not watching, I have to explain to you this man's persona.
	He comes on YouTube, classic biker's jacket, you know, the classic black biker's jacket, with the studs, with the snaps, a heavy metal or gamer t-shirt, long black hair, And the mirrored sunglasses, is it essential?
	I know that when he's off air, he is in a three-piece tailor-made suit.
	We know this to be true.
	My drones will confirm that momentarily.
	But seriously, I have to discuss the last video.
	I watched it multiple times.
	I never do that with YouTube videos.
	The last one that you did may be six minutes long on the midterms.
	And I'm going to start in reverse because you dropped something that will demonstrate Why you are good at what you do.
	You said MAGA is not a personality thing.
	It's not a personality cult.
	It's not about President Trump.
	It's not about, you know, The Apprentice.
	If you want to understand MAGA, you have to understand Goldwater, Buchanan, and the Tea Party.
	I've been saying this for a long time, that Donald Trump built America first on the ashes of the Tea Party.
	You've driven it back even further.
	Will you take a moment, because we have the luxury of time, to expand upon that sentence you just dropped in your last video?
	Indeed, yeah.
	It really goes back to the... it's the ghost of the Tea Party, people have said.
	I'm not the first one to point this out, nor are you, but even before that you would have to go back to the Buchanan Brigade in the early 90s.
	Anybody remember that delightful little episode from the Republican convention in 92?
	That was a cute moment.
	Or, gosh, you go even further back to Goldwater.
	Goldwater, kind of a paleoconservative.
	And the modern spin on him is he turned leftward as he got older.
	Really not the case.
	He was always anti-centralization.
	He was always anti-centralized government.
	He was not a statist.
	And so his later positions, like supporting homosexuals in the military and so forth, these were really couched in his original conservative principles of if you don't believe you should have a large government, then you shouldn't believe the government should be large enough to impose itself on people's bedrooms and tell them how they're allowed to live.
	And so, Goldwater's leftward turn, I believe, is somewhat exaggerated, perhaps even by the Goldwater Institute, to be honest, which a lot, much like the Ayn Rand Institute, bears almost nothing in common with its namesake.
	Yeah, don't get me started on Ayn Rand, the most overblown, non-political philosopher of modern American history.
	All right, let's stick on this for a second.
	I mean, seriously, what a crap book.
	The fact that people actually worship those books really blows my mind.
	So let's stop here for a second.
	Let's try and get our taxonomies right.
	Let's know what we're dealing with.
	Let's do an analysis of the battlefield.
	What is the politics today?
	We've got Bannon's famous, you know, explication that we're actually talking about dueling populism.
	We're talking about the Bernie Bros left-wing populism, and we're talking about the America First populism that is actually about the nation-state.
	Might be an oversimplification, but if we talk about Our side, the good side, raise a fist.
	Who are we?
	You mentioned the word paleocons.
	Are we paleocons?
	Are we liberals in the classic sense of a hundred years ago?
	Or are we something completely new and dare we use this label of populism?
	Because the left has done a bloody good job to turn that into a pejorative.
	To say that, you know, being popular with the voters is a bad thing.
	So have you got a new tax on me for us?
	Or is that a waste of time?
	Talking about how many angels dance on the head of a pin.
	Well, I mean, I'll tell you exactly what we are.
	An existential threat to democracy, obviously.
	No, I do think that really what it is fundamentally is a populist movement with kind of a backdrop couched somewhat in paleoconservatism.
	I think there's a paleoconservative bent to it, but Trump is, and you would know this better than anyone, Trump is not an ideologue.
	He's not.
	He's a pragmatist at the end of the day.
	He wants what is best for the nation, fundamentally.
	This is what he's driven by.
	And he's not a guy who's going to bark his principles to the moon and be utterly unbending on them.
	And so his movement, necessarily, is more about the principle behind it and responding to the condition of the nation that it actually is.
	Which is distinct, incidentally, from it being a reactionary movement, because it's not.
	Again, as I pointed out, It existed long before Trump.
	And there were different issues, but the same core principles that it was addressing.
	I just mentioned that I'm in Phoenix.
	I believe one of, if not the first, of the Tea Parties.
	People forget why the Tea Party movement was called the Tea Party movement.
	A series of Tea Parties were held at state capitals all around the country.
	I think Phoenix was one of the first ones, if not the first.
	And all it was was to protest All of the bloated government programs and the attacks on the Second Amendment, the problems with immigration, all the issues that when Trump came onto the scene as a political concern anyways, he immediately raised to the fore.
	A lot of that is because he's actually circumspect enough to have his people and himself pay attention to talk radio and conservative spheres and understand what the actual concerns of everyday Americans were.
	So I think this is really what it is.
	It's an everyday man's movement with a touch of the paleocon sort of undergirding it.
	I really believe that's what it is at the end of the day.
	And that's really, Goldwater had that.
	Pat Buchanan had that.
	Pat Buchanan's presidential platform, I don't know if you've ever looked at it, when he ran in 2000 on the reform ticket, which Trump almost ran on.
	His platform was basically Trump's.
	He wanted to build a wall.
	It was amazing, right?
	And Trump comes along, but he's got that salesmanship and that charisma, right?
	Talk a cat off a fish cart kind of charisma, and he sells it in a different way.
	And really, I think that's where that comes from.
	For me, and we will move on to the practical aspect since you are in Arizona, for me it's this kind of liminal error.
	It's peculiar because he has an ideology.
	You said he's pragmatic because he does what's best for the country and I think that is his ideology.
	It's a very simple one.
	It's not overthought.
	fit into fancy international relations or poli-sci boxes, but he is driven always by what is best for the country.
	It's not doctrinaire.
	It's not detailed.
	It is simply one metric.
	Is it good for America and Americans?
	Then we like it.
	Then we follow it.
	And that, for me, is a form of ideology, but a far more simple and understandable one that resonates as it did with 74 million people.
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	All right, so I didn't know until we started today's interview that you are right there in the battleground.
	You opened your last video talking about Carrie Lake.
	I wrote a long piece on the way home from Mar-a-Lago talking about how this was the anti-election.
	Carrie Lake is perhaps one of the most impressive, charismatic candidates of a decade.
	How she loses to a woman who's literally hiding from the media.
	doesn't want to debate and whenever she opens her mouth it's an utter disaster.
	Tells us a lot about the current situation.
	So you did a whole video on election fortification.
	I have drawn the following conclusions.
	Tell me if I'm off base or what's missing.
	Raise a fist.
	My take is the following.
	Where we have normal elections, let's say Two weeks of voting.
	We should do politics.
	We should campaign on a message, build a platform, get that candidate in front of as many people as possible and have rallies.
	Everywhere else like Pennsylvania with 50 days.
	Well, and some states come right out with it.
	I mean, a Republican government, 45 days of voting.
	It's not about elections anymore.
	Raise a fist.
	It's about the mechanics of collecting ballots, not votes, collecting ballots.
	And we just have to build that machine and policies.
	Platforms really don't matter because if if Pennsylvania can vote for Federman, then this isn't about politics.
	What do you think?
	Well, and some states come right out with it.
	They even venerate.
	I mean, California law venerates the practice, just explicates it is actually legal to ballot harvest, which makes it makes it a really tough sell in all the states where the Democratic parties pretend that ballot harvesting does not exist.
	It is a conspiracy theory.
	California doesn't seem to think so.
	They actually passed a law passing it.
	The thing that's hilarious about what you mentioned was Katie Hobbs, of course, the candidate that Carrie Lake was running against.
	It's bigger than that.
	People outside of Arizona only know Carrie Lake as the charismatic person that they've caught maybe an advertisement or a speech from.
	But here in Arizona, she had been a journalist and very, very visible here for over two decades.
	In the biggest markets from North to South for 25 years, she was a face, right?
	Absolutely.
	And what's worse, her opponent, Was in charge of the election, right?
	And not only that, but you may recall a little episode, the Cyber Ninja audit here from the 2020 election.
	Katie Hobbs, in the immediate aftermath of that, made a show of purchasing all new vote tabulation machines in Arizona to the tune of, oh, three million taxpayer simoleons, and this is the result.
	24 hours in, we were holding tight at, like, 15% counted.
	And, by the way, as we record this, they're still counting, okay?
	Like, this is John Travolta will come out before Arizona's election results.
	It is not something that I am very proud of.
	And unfortunately, you know, on the day I can speak to my own experience, the machine was spitting my ballot back up like Kate Moss after a nacho bender.
	I mean, I had to put it through like five times.
	I had to change answers.
	I had... Right?
	Like, as if I... Hang on, hang on.
	The nation that put 12 men on the moon had to have a machine scan your ballot five times?
	Yes, indeed.
	As if I can't get it together enough to fully fill in a bubble with a ballpoint pen.
	Wow.
	I just don't understand it at all.
	And I also have to say, If anyone, including whatever snarky intern runs the Maricopa County Twitter page, is claiming issues with tabulators are election misinformation, yeah, they are lying to you through the hole in their story.
	It is very real.
	By the way, the AG of Arizona came out and wrote a letter, which is good.
	It actually is a bit of a supportive gesture, but it also raises the bar as far as what can actually constitute the pretext to have either a runoff election or a recount or whatever.
	It's within the margin, I believe, that it may get a recount anyways, but it raises the bar.
	So actually, right now, any Arizonans that can send their stories, any proof that either their vote wasn't counted—you can check on the county recorder's website, Or that they had the same issues I had.
	I mean, gosh, there was a giant line and people were leaving after hours and hours standing in line.
	That is dictionary definition of voter suppression as a direct result of voter tabulation machines that Katie Hobbs purchased.
	So if you have that, send it to the AG Election Security Division, I believe, was now formed.
	And I think there's an ezaz.org, you can report that.
	And actually, they have all the tools that you need there.
	But that's all through the Arizona GOP.
	And hopefully, I believe within the next week, that's going to be presented by the AG to an actual judge.
	And hopefully that comes to something.
	Right, it is just mind-numbing that there are states like Florida that can actually announce and certify their election results within minutes if not an hour and a half maximum from the end of the polling stations being closed and we're still waiting, we're still waiting for certain, we're still waiting for seats In Congress, to be confirmed.
	That's the insanity.
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	All right, so if that's the sad reality of where you are in Arizona, where I am in the Commonwealth, what is the response – What do the good guys do?
	Because it's clear, you know, the GOP, you say in your last video, the GOP knew this, didn't want to fix it apparently.
	What's going to happen?
	Is it going to be up to local actors, local activists to just Harvest ballots where it's legal?
	What is the response to those who actually believe that, oh, I don't know, our representatives should actually be chosen by the American people?
	Raise a fist.
	Oh, I mean, come on.
	It was our fault.
	I mean, you saw Meghan McCain after the election shouldering her cruciform length of dogwood and saying, you know, the message of the election is if you run in Arizona, don't insult my father.
	First off, sweetie, John McCain wasn't even from Arizona.
	And second, I'd insult Biden and his voters, but I try not to speak ill of the dead.
	Frankly, I think what needs to happen is an adjustment of strategy, as well as an understanding that the reality of elections has changed.
	Like, I do like the idea of Republicans showing up en masse on Election Day, but I think they also need to be vigilant Yeah, but it's also very, very important, I think, that they not avoid early voting, that they not avoid mail-in voting.
	And these, unfortunately, I think some of these are strategic blunders from well-meaning campaign managers all across the country that they are unfortunately exploiting.
	Look, the idea that election fraud Ballot harvesting as a conspiracy theory is absolute lunacy on its face.
	It's an industry.
	It's not a conspiracy theory.
	It's an industry.
	They pay people.
	There was footage that came out from, I believe, the 2nd of November from one of the ballot boxes in Maricopa County.
	And you've probably seen it by now.
	It went viral.
	And they were just showing car after car, people walking out with boxes.
	Full of ballots.
	But the thing that a lot of people didn't catch was the guys stopping to photograph as they do it.
	Because they have to.
	It's like Uber Eats.
	They don't get paid.
	It's a business.
	But here's the problem.
	This isn't just a question of conservatives changing their cultural attitude to early voting.
	Like me, you know, I prefer chain of custody, so I'm going to go to the polling station, I'm going to show my ID, I'm going to tick my thing and put it in the computer or in the ballot box.
	It's not changing my attitude and saying, oh well, I'll just mail it in three weeks earlier.
	It's creating that enterprise of the guy who's taking 300 ballots to the ballot box and photographing it to get his $5 per delivery.
	Who's going to build that enterprise?
	Are conservatives, who are, you know, the individual, the rugged individual, are we prepared to act like the ball grazer fest?
	I don't know about the Borg, but you know what?
	There have been actual positive collectives.
	Not every collective is the Borg.
	And I would argue that not every movement is a collective either, right?
	You can have organic, this is, I mean, we're getting awfully existential here, but you know what I mean?
	There were cities that sprang up, but they were built by rugged individuals during the frontier times and so forth.
	This is really the spirit that you have to get into.
	If you want something to happen, You gotta make it happen at the end of the day.
	And frankly, you look over at the White House, you look over in Washington, you look over at a lot of establishment GOP leadership, doesn't exactly inspire confidence with regard to spurring that on.
	Look, the power in American government comes from the ground up.
	It does not come from the top down as much as D.C.
	would like it to be the other way around.
	And so the organizational infrastructure has to follow suit at the end of the day.
	All right.
	We've got to lead the way locally, whether it's in Arizona, whether it's in Virginia.
	My wife, Got up at 3 a.m.
	on election day, worked till 9.45 at night because she was a chief election officer and I can guarantee you there was no BS, no shenanigans happening in the precinct where she was the chief election officer.
	We're talking to Razorfist.
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	Alright, uh, The Swamp has, like a zombie, come back from the dead, and one of those zombies is Paul Ryan!
	Play cut!
	I think we would have clearly have won the Senate had we had traditional Republicans in the general election, like these governors did.
	I think we would have won places like Arizona, places like Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, had we had a typical traditional conservative Republican, not a Trump Republican.
	So I think What we now know, it's pretty clear, is with Trump we lose.
	So I don't mean this personally, it's just, it's just evidence.
	We lost the House in 18, we lost the presidency in 20, we lost the Senate in 20, and now in 2022, we should have and could have won the Senate, we didn't, and we have a much lower majority in the House because of that Trump factor.
	So I think it's just, it's palpable right now.
	We get past Trump, we start winning elections, we stick with Trump, we keep losing elections.
	That's just how I see it.
	One of the worst failures as speaker in modern history, Paul Ryan, is telling us what we should do now.
	Raise a fist.
	Why does he, I don't know if you're a mentalist, why does he think we care what he thinks?
	Right, I think I may have referenced this in our first sort of little discussion.
	I truly think that the entire jettison Trump narrative First off, it was astroturfed.
	It was a narrative in search of an impetus rather than a sincere reaction to events, right?
	But I think it's also partially astroturfed to protect people like Kevin McCarthy as the Speaker of the House, which I guess makes Nancy the Speaker of the crack house now.
	I suppose the argument being, you know, Trump almost lost us the House like you just referenced.
	So now we need a steady establishment hand at the tiller.
	Like, frankly, you look at some of these people, I wouldn't trust them to work the speaker in a Starbucks drive-thru.
	I love the troll idea, though, of appointing Trump as the speaker.
	I've seen that.
	But of course he announced it, he went and ruined it, right?
	But I think the great Paul Gosar of my home state of Arizona would explode nearly as many skulls in the House of Representatives.
	So he's the one I would appoint at the end of the day.
	So let's talk about, you know, the next two years because I was at Mar-a-Lago for election night.
	I was at Mar-a-Lago for the president's announcement and there was one line in that hour-long speech.
	If you haven't seen it guys, it's one of the president's best.
	Go to my Twitter feed, go to Facebook, go to Truth Social.
	We posted the whole hour-long speech.
	This next two sentences is the most important part of the speech.
	Let's play cut.
	It's time.
	And I will ask for a permanent ban on taxpayer funding of campaigns, a lifetime ban on lobbying by former members of Congress and cabinet members. a lifetime ban on lobbying by former members of Congress So, RazörFist, for me, that is a declaration of thermonuclear war.
	Whether it's the left, whether it's the lobbyist machine itself, or whether it's the RINO, or what you call the Conservative Inc.
	establishment, if you are going to suggest term limits and a lifetime ban for lobbying for congressmen, they have to destroy Trump in the next two years.
	Do you agree?
	Absolutely.
	I think one of the greatest things Trump did, and maybe this was a... if you want to point out flaws in the Trump presidency, I think he did too much good too quickly, and people forgot.
	Right?
	His first week in office, all those executive orders.
	I've never seen anyone fulfill more campaign promises in a more distilled period of time in my life, and one of them was that five-year lobbying ban for administration officials.
	Which, by the way, I signed.
	I signed, and I was happy to sign that.
	Brilliant, brilliant move.
	And of course, this just reestablishes the commitment to that, which, you know, once again, for all the people who are like, you know, whatever, who want to buy into the, we need to jettison Trump narrative, you didn't do anything for us.
	I think this just reestablishes that he's really for real.
	And by the way, is he aging in reverse?
	You know, and it's Benjamin Barton.
	I say this a couple of years ago.
	Take photographs of Obama or Bush at the beginning of their presidency and at the end, and they've aged 30 years.
	I mean, Obama went totally grey.
	President Trump, he's going backwards.
	It's freaky.
	Right, right.
	And Biden just turned 80, by the way.
	Sleep tight, everyone.
	Jesus Christ.
	This is the age most families hide the car keys from grandpa.
	Right, right.
	And he's got the nuclear football next to him.
	Let's talk about DeSantis, my old boss.
	I've warned Ron, who's been a great governor for Florida, but he's been a governor on the Trump model.
	Let's be clear, this isn't the Mitt Romney model for running Florida.
	This is the Trump model of running Florida.
	He runs the risk.
	The biggest risk Ron runs right now is being leveraged as a weapon for the billionaires who hate Trump and for conservatives in the ink.
	Don't you think that's a danger?
	They feel that they're using him the same way or hoping to use him the same way they use Ted Cruz.
	I don't think Ted Cruz was their ideal choice in 2016 in those midterms, but Trump hadn't taken any of their money at that point.
	He was only financed by individual donations and his own personal fortune.
	So they didn't have any leverage on him.
	So they couldn't work with him.
	So they figured, well, Ted Cruz has taken our money, so we can work with him.
	Same deal with DeSantis.
	And in case you didn't get that message, take a look at his war chest.
	Do you think they needed almost $200 million to win a race that DeSantis was running, what, 20 points ahead in since March of this year?
	That was a presidential war chest, ladies and gentlemen.
	They were attempting to groom him to run against Trump.
	And we'll see if he decides to take the bait.
	He has kept mum thus far.
	It's been strange you said that in your video, that he's kept mum.
	It's so weird that he hasn't said anything in the last year.
	If you're the person being touted as the replacement for the most successful incumbent president in US history, you'd think some statement of comment would be in order.
	Do you think President Trump can win without the Peter Thiels and the Paul Singers backing him financially?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Really?
	I mean, keep in mind, he could go by the same playbook he did in 2016 if he wanted to.
	He could run on his own personal fortune in the primaries, and then have two separate pools of money.
	It was a really weird arrangement with Trump when he ran in the general election, I believe.
	You could correct me if I'm wrong, but it was like the GOP had their own Trump fund, and he had his own Trump fund, and never the tween shall meet.
	And so he could do that.
	He could actually follow that model, and he wouldn't wind up having to take any of that money or dirty his hands with it.
	And so the GOP could have their own fundraising thing.
	But yeah, I think he could.
	And here's the thing.
	Strangely enough, it was Megyn Kelly, of all people, who pointed this out.
	Trump, when he's on a stage, you can say what you want about DeSantis.
	I think he's done great for Florida.
	But you put him on a stage, and all eyes are on him.
	That's just how it is.
	That's just how it is.
	If you don't believe me, revisit those debate clips from 2016.
	Oh, you're a tough guy, Jeb.
	My argument is very clear.
	Guys, we've got two years to the election.
	I know I'm an immigrant to this country, but I think I've heard of this thing called a primary.
	Why don't we have a primary?
	And Ron and everybody and Kasich and Hutchison, they can all run because it's going to be fun.
	Do you remember 15 guys?
	It was fun.
	Let's see that again.
	We're talking to RazörFist, host of the Rageaholic channel on YouTube.
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	I'm delighted to see in the background of our buddy Razor Fist studio here.
	He's got the game Thief on the wall.
	That's a classic.
	I remember playing Thief with my son.
	What's the other one that we used to play?
	The Star Trek Next Generations game.
	That was a lot of fun.
	And then I think Silent and Deadly.
	Great, great first-person shooter up.
	All right, don't get me started on computer games.
	Let's have a little bit of fun when it comes to movies.
	I just had my episode of Making Movies Great Again with my buddy from the Mr. Reagan channel, Chris Coles, and we discussed Star Wars.
	And he quoted you, and I hope you were trolling me and all decent Star Wars fans, that Ewoks are good.
	That better have been a joke.
	That better have been a joke, raise a fist.
	Let me, let me blow your mind here, okay?
	The Ewoks, when we first encounter them, have Luke and the gang all tied up on poles and they're suspended over a fire?
	Ladies and gentlemen, the Ewoks are murderous cannibals.
	I don't deny it!
	I don't deny it!
	And that's why, ladies and gentlemen, the stormtroopers got absolutely destroyed in that conflict.
	That's absolutely what happened.
	It was space Vietnam.
	The trees were speaking Iwaki.
	That's what we witnessed there.
	Those helmets at the end that they were using for drums, that's because the stormtroopers had become tacos.
	There's a very dark spin on that, actually.
	Apparently the original concept was that that moon was supposed to have two races.
	It's supposed to have the short little teddy bears, the Ewoks, and the tall ones, the Yuzum.
	That's what they were called.
	And then budget cuts and whatever, they cut out the Yuzum.
	They weren't in there.
	They only kept the Ewoks.
	Happens when you're making movies, right?
	Right.
	You see a Yhazam skull on one of the Ewoks' heads, so the implication there is they ate the Yhazam.
	There is, yes.
	One of the really grim ones has a big skull on his head.
	Oh my gosh.
	He knows more about Star Wars than I do.
	That's embarrassing.
	We'll have to have him on our Making Movies Great Again.
	In the meantime, keep doing what you do, my friend.
	He is the host of The Rageaholic on YouTube.
	He is also on Twitter at Razorfist.
	Next time, I'm sure he's going to meet us in his three-piece Italian handmade suit.
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