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Nov. 22, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: CBS finally confirms hunter laptop story. Why now?

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	There was one thing that got my attention, and that was a voicemail. - It's Dad, I called and told him I love you.
	I love you more than the whole world, pal.
	Can I get some help?
	That voicemail, apparently from Joe Biden during his son Hunter's drug addiction, is one of many findings Lanterman used to authenticate what is believed to be Hunter Biden's laptop data.
	You're confident, based on your analysis, this is Hunter Biden's data and that it's real?
	Yes.
	This Delaware computer shop is where the laptop's backstory begins.
	Their records indicate in April 2019, Hunter Biden took his laptop in for repair, but never paid.
	After 90 days, the store considered it abandoned.
	Then in December 2019, the FBI subpoenaed the store's owner to turn over the computer and a portable drive of its data.
	During the 2020 election, versions were widely shared by Republican operatives, including Rudy Giuliani.
	But questions were raised about whether additional files were added to those versions.
	Then-candidate Biden labeled the laptop controversy disinformation.
	What he's accusing me of is a Russian plan.
	CBS News approached the lawyer for the computer repair shop owner to cut through the noise.
	We've always had one clean copy.
	And obtained a copy of what he says they provided the FBI under subpoena.
	Then we went to Minneapolis for an independent analysis.
	Were you paid by CBS or anyone else to analyze the data?
	No.
	No.
	I wouldn't want anyone to think that someone bought our opinion.
	Around the corner, it'll lead you to what we call our imaging room.
	Lanterman and his son, Sean, both digital forensic experts, recovered images of credit cards, a driver's license, social security number.
	Just the sheer volume of what we're dealing with, it would be difficult, if not impossible, to fabricate.
	And explained how files built up over years.
	It accumulated over time, which is consistent with normal, everyday use of a computer.
	There's some reporting about folders being added.
	We have read these articles.
	We don't see that.
	So I believe that that's because we have a more pristine copy.
	Hey guys, Sebastian here.
	Hey Jeff, what was that?
	Was that yesterday on CBS?
	That long report we just played a clip of?
	Yeah, it took him a little while to put it together.
	Yeah, weird.
	I've got to this thing, it's Wikipedia, I hate it, but at least it's the repository of, or suppository of conventional wisdom.
	The Hunter Biden laptop story, they actually have a whole entry in Wikipedia, and it starts with a timeline.
	The timeline for the original story, the breaking of the Hunter Biden laptop story, if you'd like to write it down, all of you out there, all three million of you, was October 14th.
	Not this year.
	Not last year.
	October 14th, 2020.
	Yeah, right before the elections.
	Two stinking years ago.
	Well done, CBS.
	You're only two years late.
	And Katherine Herridge?
	Are you ashamed of yourself, Catherine?
	I knew you!
	You were a colleague of mine at Fox when I was a contributor on Fox.
	Very messy lady.
	Your office was like a war zone.
	But a very good and solid reporter.
	A straight shooter!
	You worked your tail off at Fox.
	I would say you're probably, back then, one of the most respected, serious, investigative journalists at Fox News, despite your untidy office.
	It was literally piles of papers on her chair, on her table.
	And then you leave Fox?
	You put your name and your face to this?
	Oh, we have verified the laptops.
	We have gone to independent specialists.
	They didn't take a dime from us.
	Two years later.
	Two years?
	I texted you to ask you today.
	Well, first to inform you, this story was broken by the New York Post two years ago and not much need of verification required.
	Why?
	Because the computer repair shop owner showed the world the forms signed by Hunter Biden
	for the repair of the two water damaged laptops that he wished to have repaired signed by him that stated if he doesn't come back to get them within what was it 60 days they become the property of the store and then when they become the property and he finds what's on them the videos of the prostitutes the crack the crack pipes the
	Connections to Chinese businessmen, Burisma, Ukraine.
	He tells the FBI in Delaware and they sit on it.
	And as soon as it becomes a story in the New York Post two stinking years ago, what happens?
	Oh, hey Catherine, here's an interesting verification of the authenticity, Hunter Biden's lawyers Demand that the computer repair shop owner give the hard drives back.
	That's weird.
	Because if it's Russian misinformation like those 51 former CIA and DIA officials stated before the election, on what basis do Hunter Biden's lawyers want them back?
	If they're not Hunter's laptops, what right does Hunter have to them?
	Of course they're his.
	Hey Jeff, was that mean of me to text Catherine Harris today to say, aren't you ashamed of yourself?
	No, maybe if she waited a week, but not two years.
	I mean, I think it's the right thing to do because she thinks she's being a journalist yesterday.
	I know, that is ridiculous.
	To act like she's breaking news and everything.
	Ooh!
	Look, we're going to have a very serious packet.
	We're going to go to a very swanky office.
	We're going to sit down with some experts.
	Look, this table.
	It's made of glass and chrome.
	Have you seen this office?
	It's really expensive.
	And these experts, he's got a silk tie on.
	He must be really good.
	And I'm a reporter.
	Look at me.
	You're a clown.
	You're Joe Kerridge.
	You know what you owe Americans after two years of sitting on this story?
	You owe us all an apology because you are no longer, you have just forsaken everything you swore to uphold.
	A journalist, it should be about the truth.
	You can have a political opinion, but you should be about the truth.
	You just sat on a story for two stinking years.
	And CBS, we know they're hacks, we know they're propagandists, but you put your face To this lie, to this, whoa, we broke the story yesterday!
	You discredited yourself, Catherine Herridge.
	You have forsworn everything that should be sacred to you in your profession.
	You owe me and all Americans an apology for being a rank propagandist.
	My only question to you, if you want to claw back a modicum, a scintilla of decency, How about you leave CBS?
	How about you resign today?
	Show us that you're not a coward and a propagandist and a flunky and a hack.
	And tell us just one thing.
	One thing.
	Why did your editors, because you didn't make this decision, you're just a reporter.
	Why did your editors tell you to drop this package now?
	One week after an election.
	Why?
	Why two weeks?
	Why now?
	Why now?
	And two years before the next one.
	Is this to wipe it clean in time?
	You'd better tell us if you want anyone to respect you.
	I said I wouldn't do another angry monologue.
	Can't help it.
	It's the events.
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	We'll be back after these messages.
	Thanks, sir. sir.
	What do you think about these angry monologues I don't rehearse, Jeff?
	Oh, he's walking off.
	Is it coming this way?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You can put the mic on.
	Copy that.
	Hey buddy, mics are hot on Rumble.
	Okay.
	How's the sound?
	Sounds good.
	Picture is great.
	Yeah, you can sit back a little bit.
	Picture is great.
	Sound is great.
	Sorry, I'm trying to figure out the volume is a little soft.
	Hold on.
	No, it's good on our end.
	I'm going to use that Paul Ryan cut with Ned here, okay, guys?
	Copy that, cut one.
	Yeah.
	Mr. Ryan, would you like anything else in your lower third other than the...
	Oh, yeah.
	Put American Majority.
	Founder of American Majority.
	Yep.
	Alright, we're gonna talk Arizona, we're gonna talk rhinos, okay?
	Yep.
	What's the t-shirt?
	The Jays.
	Rock Chalk Jayhawk, baby.
	That basket of conservative thought.
	I bet.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know what?
	It makes you better.
	Gotta go in and, uh...
	Express your ideas, and back in the day when I went, they'd actually be open to it if you could make a rational argument, even though they disagreed.
	Right.
	I don't think... All right, standby, 60 seconds.
	And you're going to call for cut one, correct?
	Yeah, I'll tee it up.
	I'm doing a PhD first.
	Copy that.
	All right, mic's off.
	All right, mic's mic's off.
	The End
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Great to see you last Tuesday.
	Was that just a week ago?
	That's insanity.
	A lot of fun at Mar-a-Lago.
	We're going to talk to one of the other guests there for the President's announcement momentarily.
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	Let's go to somebody who is also in a rather celebratory mood.
	I think we have a photograph, a selfie of us down there with the good guys.
	He's Ned Ryan of the American Majority.
	Have you recovered from that celebration, Ned?
	Yeah, no, that was definitely a fun evening and it was great to be there, great to see you and others.
	And boy, we're ready for another run at this thing.
	Not only to win the nomination, but to go for the White House again.
	I gotta tell you, I have a couple thoughts on that, but I know we're going to talk about some other things, but I've got a couple thoughts on that.
	Yeah, I'm going to get to that in a second, but first let's talk about things that need to be fixed as we speak.
	This is JustinNews.com, our buddy John Solomon.
	Two Arizona counties, Cochise and one other, will delay certifying their ballot canvases for the 2022 election.
	Two GOP supervisors voted to delay certifying the elections until November.
	28 in a two-to-one vote.
	What the heck is going on in this nation?
	We've got 12 men on the moon.
	We have done what other nations will never be able to do, and we can't count some stinking ballots in Arizona?
	All intentional.
	I mean, this has definitely been done intentionally in which people have wanted to manipulate a system in which they can delay voting, cause the process to be so slow that it'll take days and days, if not weeks.
	To actually come up with an election result, it's shameful that we call ourselves the greatest nation on earth and we can't actually hold a first world election process.
	We come off as a third world country in people being able to trust the integrity of the vote.
	I think there are a lot of things that can be done to fix it, obviously.
	But in the meantime, I've got a few thoughts on what we should be doing in playing by the rules that have been laid out for us.
	Right, so here's my take.
	You're on the ground because you're a founder of American Majority.
	You train people to actually secure the republic and to make sure that we have successful campaigns and fair elections.
	So here's my take.
	I wrote a long piece after I came home from Mar-a-Lago that we don't have elections.
	2022 was an anti-election.
	Elections are when you go to the polling station, you choose a candidate based on the merits and you put your ballot in the ballot box or the scanner.
	What we have now is 50 days of voting in Philadelphia, 45 days with a Republican governor.
	We have 45 days of voting in Virginia.
	It's absurd.
	So the question isn't choosing candidates on merit, it's who has the best enterprise not to collect votes but collect ballots.
	Do we just have to surrender to the more ballots not votes thing, Ned?
	Is that how cynical we have to be?
	Yes, we actually have to be that way and I hate to break it to people in which Welcome to the new era of American politics, where polls, historical trends, candidate quality, message, persuasion, all of that, in my mind, are extremely insignificant.
	And I just wrote a piece that ran today at American Greatness, amgreatness.com, in which I described, we'd better figure out a ballots-out, ballots-in machine.
	Is it crass?
	Is it potential for fraud?
	Yes, all of that.
	But we can howl at the moon or we can we can adapt that.
	And I wrote we can adapt or die.
	Because I truly believe the republic is at stake and we can we can complain about the potential corruption and fraud.
	Or we can say we're going to embrace this on a whole host of fronts.
	We're going to do early.
	We're going to embrace the early voting, mail-in, absentee ballot, ballot harvesting where it's legal.
	These are the rules of the game, and we can complain about the rules of the game, or we can play the game by the rules that have been laid out for us.
	And I don't think we have many options.
	If the rules have changed, and then we can't change them back, then we have to win the game by those rules.
	However, it's people on our side who are also going to sabotage us.
	I thought this guy had disappeared.
	I didn't even know he was alive.
	Here's one of the most catastrophic speakers of the house who's lecturing us, us, on who the next president should be.
	Play cut.
	I think we would have clearly have won the Senate had we had traditional Republicans in the general election, like these governors did.
	I think we would have won places like Arizona, places like Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, had we had a typical traditional conservative Republican, not a Trump Republican.
	So I think What we now know, it's pretty clear, is with Trump we lose.
	So I don't mean this personally, it's just, it's just evidence.
	We lost the House in 18, we lost the presidency in 20, we lost the Senate in 20, and now in 2022, we should have and could have won the Senate, we didn't, and we have a much lower majority in the House because of that Trump factor.
	So I think it's just, it's palpable right now.
	We get past Trump, we start winning elections, we stick with Trump, we keep losing elections.
	That's just how I see it.
	So a man who is a failure is telling us how to win.
	My problem is the big money, the money that is potentially courting Ron DeSantis right now, the Rhino establishment.
	They want a war inside the GOP.
	Give us your predictions.
	Can we stop that war?
	I think right now we've got to be very careful for the singers and everybody else not to sabotage our side.
	Well, first of all, let me say there's a reason that Paul Ryan was an abysmal failure speaker.
	He shows really his low political IQ when he talks about candidate quality.
	Sorry, but dum-dum.
	Do you not see what they did in Pennsylvania?
	They elected a dead man and a vegetable.
	Candidate quality does not matter.
	What matters is a ballots out, ballots in machine.
	He has clearly missed the entire point of the 2022 midterms.
	Has nothing to do with Trump.
	I would argue, in fact, just based off some numbers I've seen out of Michigan, in which a lot of Trump voters did not turn out because he was not on the ballot, we would be having real benefits with Trump on the ballot.
	But the whole point of the 2022 elections has nothing to do with anything about ballots out, ballots in, and we have failed miserably on this.
	And I want to make one more point and get on to the... We got 60 seconds.
	Be quick.
	Really quick.
	There were a million absentee ballots sent out in Arizona to Republicans.
	400,000 were not returned before Election Day.
	If we'd had 150,000 of those returned, we would have won everything.
	Wow.
	In regards to 2024, I've got more thoughts on this.
	But, yeah, if Paul Singer and King Griffin and everybody else coalesce behind Ron DeSantis, he's given in.
	He's actually made concessions to them on their corporatist neocon front.
	So I tell people, yeah, they want to coalesce around Ron DeSantis as the anti-Trump battering ram.
	And if money flows from them to him, you can guarantee concessions have been made and not good ones.
	All right, follow this man on Twitter at Ned Ryan.
	He doesn't know how to spell.
	It's R-Y-U-N.
	And his latest is AmericanGreatnessAndGreatness.com.
	Keep doing what you do, Ned.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
	All right. - Oh, yeah.
	Your article is new.
	It came out today.
	Yeah, it just came out today.
	Give me that figure for Arizona.
	So the mail-out ballots for Republicans.
	There were over a million absentee ballots requested by Republicans.
	There were roughly 400,000 not returned.
	I looked at the numbers, I believe if it was 150,000 of those 400 had been returned to go to one, then obviously Governor... Wow, that's crazy.
	That's crazy.
	We better... or we're going to die.
	And I'm not even talking... we can have a conversation about ballot harvesting, but it's legal in 11 states.
	Yeah.
	We should adopt it.
	Yeah.
	Like, but we need to have a Florida-style plan about early voting, absentee ballot change.
	Right.
	And mitigate the damage coming into Election Day.
	We'll win everything.
	But we need to get over at least in the short term.
	We're only voting on election day.
	We're only gonna vote at 4 p.m.
	No.
	Not doing that.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Be good.
	All right.
	We'll see you.
	Thanks.
	Good, good, good, good.
	It's been too long.
	What's going on?
	Anything exciting?
	Uh, just fighting the good fight.
	Title for that?
	Uh, what did he say?
	He said, um...
	DeSantis concessions have been made with the donors?
	No, because he wasn't explicit.
	He said if.
	Or the ballots, I think, the absentee ballots.
	The-- What happened on the ground in Arizona?
	And then for Razorfist?
	Trump.
	Too much good, too fast.
	So we can talk about this special counsel?
	Sure.
	OK, great.
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	Right?
	Or dies.
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	And that's, yeah, that's good.
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	Yep.
	All right.
	There's something else I saw about his wife. - Yeah, yeah.
	You got a point at the Thunderbirds.
	You see the Thunderbirds?
	Isn't that cool?
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	We have him in studio.
	It's been far too long.
	He is the man who is in charge of investigations and research at that superb organization, Judicial Watch, former military intelligence, uh, counterintelligence officer, Chris Farrell.
	Welcome in studio.
	Great to be with you, Sam.
	So much to discuss.
	Let's start with the peculiar timing of a special counsel being appointed by DOJ.
	What was it?
	72 hours after somebody called President Trump announced his candidacy, a special counsel was empaneled to coordinate The investigations of the Mar-a-Lago raid and the other January 6 investigations.
	Chris, how does any of this make sense given that 48 hours before that, I think it was the Washington Post that said, sorry, we didn't really find anything serious in the Mar-a-Lago raid.
	What's the real reason for all of this?
	Because the Department of Justice has been weaponized by Biden through his dupe, Garland, and let's all thank God Garland is not a justice of the Supreme Court.
	Garland's professional life is over when he leaves being Attorney General.
	I'm sure he'll ply his legal trade elsewhere and make millions of dollars, but his government functions are over when he leaves as Attorney General.
	Now, I'm so glad you said this, because for me, many people say, oh, he's this wicked individual.
	He's a meat puppet.
	I mean, it's really Lisa Monaco and the deputies that are running AG.
	You look at how this guy testifies.
	Merrick Garland isn't the mastermind of all this, is he?
	No, he's not.
	And, you know, I guess he's a good actor.
	He's acted before.
	And so he comes out, and he kind of goes through the script, and then he quickly runs offstage.
	You know, scared little mouse.
	But before he does that he says, how dare anyone cast aspersions on the FBI?
	And then he runs off stage.
	Right.
	Right.
	That's what he did after Mar-a-Lago.
	Doesn't take a single question.
	Not one question.
	And remember, Mar-a-Lago, the raid there was conducted 91 days before an election.
	Yeah.
	because there's a prohibition on those sorts of activities.
	Generally speaking, a prohibition. - There's an internal protocol. - Right.
	The manual says don't do it.
	And now, in this case, they have to keep the pressure up.
	I think it's gonna boomerang.
	I think that announcing this special prosecutor, people are gonna look at this and say, this is crazy.
	How many times are you going to have impeachments and special prosecutors and, you know, they watched Mueller and the Russia, Russia, Russia.
	How many times are they going to do this?
	And I think it's actually, it accrues, there's a sympathetic accrual to the benefit of President Trump because people realize it's just a crass stunt.
	It's a stunt to try to muddy the guy up.
	And you're somehow going to have a special prosecutor look at Mar-a-Lago And January 6th, because those two go so well together, right?
	I mean, they're so interrelated.
	I mean, it's the, okay, it's the we hate Trump, gotta block him team.
	That's what it really is.
	Wow, that's it.
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	Wow.
	Alright, we'll talk about that next.
	The mics are still hot on live stream.
	Comment on, because I opened the show with this, CBS confirming the Hunter laptop story yesterday.
	What's that timing about?
	Why now?
	Just to get it out of the way before 24?
	I guess.
	There's no rhyme or reason.
	The gentleman who had the repair shop, is it John Paul Mac Isaac?
	Yeah.
	I worry about getting his name not exactly right.
	I heard him interviewed this morning and he actually provided CBS with a mirrored copy of the drive because they insisted on doing their own technical analysis.
	So he was sort of like, well, better late than never.
	And at least they bothered to actually do a technical analysis rather than just kind of thumb through it and say, yeah, we think it's so he was kind of he kind of had a mixed message on it.
	And my argument is very simple.
	You don't need a technical analyst.
	You don't need any forensics.
	If Hunter Biden's lawyers demand the drives back, they're his drives.
	Right?
	Right, right.
	I mean, they demanded them back.
	Yeah, and of course, thankfully, he had a waiver in his service contract.
	Yeah, 60 days or something.
	Right, so if you don't claim it or pay for it, then, you know, he takes custody.
	And what's interesting is he pointed out that there was not a repair job that was requested.
	Hunter Biden requested data recovery, which is not a repair job.
	It's an effort to recover the actual content.
	And that's how, when he came across this stuff, he was, you know, holy cow, what in the world?
	And of course, he's got a book that he's just come out with.
	So, you know, more power to him because they tried to destroy that guy.
	Oh, he's got a book out?
	Yeah, he's got a book out.
	I don't remember the title of it, unfortunately, but he points out how they tried to destroy him.
	They went out of their way to call him a Russian agent.
	Of course.
	you know, everything under the sun, so.
	Come in with Cup 5.
	Come in with Cup 5. Cup 5.
	Cup 5. Cup 5. Cup 5. Cup 5. Cup 5. Cup 5. Cup 5.
	Let's get it out at trial.
	Let's expose it for what it is.
	Name it and shame it.
	He's a consumer of these people, and those people should face civil consequences from the victims.
	Tucker Carlson and Lauren Bobert, according to former FBI counterterrorism agent Frank Figliosi, should be sued for the attack at the LGBT club this weekend in Colorado Springs.
	I guess if that's the case, then Steve Scalise should sue Bernie Sanders for being shot at by one of his campaign volunteers on a baseball field not very far from this studio.
	Sheer, utter insanity.
	But you want to play that game?
	We'll play that game.
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	Chris, let's talk about this individual, the new Special Counsel Jack Smith.
	First things first, Kind of has a record with things that are not very Trumpian or America First or conservative, correct?
	Yeah.
	He's a political operator, right?
	I mean, this is not an attorney who has liberal ideas.
	This guy is a leftist political operator and has been for decades.
	And we know that because he was involved.
	He had had consultations way back when.
	You remember Lois Lerner at the IRS.
	Targeting the Tea Party Patriots.
	That is correct.
	And so there was on the heels or at the back end of the Citizens United decision, the left was up in arms.
	And they said, well, we can go after Tea Party groups, Patriot groups, anybody organizing on the right.
	Trying to create 501c3 nonprofit organizations, C4 organizations, trying to be political activists, and we're going to suppress their activities.
	And this was the Obama administration weaponizing the IRS to suppress their political opposition.
	Slow roll their applications, their 501c3 status.
	Scare them.
	Ask them questions.
	What kind of activities are you involved in?
	There were groups that were asked, you say that you open up your meetings with a prayer.
	What kind of prayers do you pray?
	Literally, people were asked that.
	And he was involved in that.
	He provided legal consultations to Lois Lerner back then.
	The woman responsible.
	Correct.
	Let's add a little bit of more color.
	This is from Breitbart.com.
	His wife, this is Jack Smith, the new special counsel, not only made contributions, campaign contributions to the Friends of Rashida Tlaib, Yeah, not exactly your average Democrat.
	We have the filings here.
	These are the filings that I found online for her donations.
	She donated, this is Katie Chavini, her company Big Mouth Productions.
	Sure thing.
	Yeah, sure, Big Mouth Productions.
	Donated to the campaign of Biden for President and the Biden Victory Fund.
	And not only that, her production company, let me get this right because I wouldn't want to make a mistake, Made a film in 2020, and this is their description, an intimate look into the life of former first lady Michelle Obama called Becoming.
	So no potential there for any problems, right?
	Cue the choir.
	You know, this is the kind of stuff where, and of course this is a one-way street, right?
	The left likes to look at spouses of some people but not at others.
	Yes.
	But this guy, Jack Smith, is a political operator.
	He has been selected for a reason and he's going to walk around for the next two years banging a drum Screaming about Trump and making accusations.
	His office will undoubtedly be a leak factory.
	Of course.
	So brace up and get ready for that.
	But what are your predictions?
	Because we are two years away from the election.
	The primaries will start in just over a year.
	At Mar-a-Lago last week, one of the first standing ovations was for Eric Trump, the president recognized his son, who stood up in the front row, got a standing ovation as the most subpoenaed man in American history.
	This is like an endless, it's like a Sisyphean endless cycle, is it not?
	More of what we've seen for the last seven years? - Yeah, I mean, if anybody was expecting, "Oh well, new election, clean break, different story," no.
	Hang on, hang on.
	More, more, more, more.
	What were we promised in the inauguration?
	Unity, peace and unity, right?
	Yeah, that's, I mean, this is again, it's Orwellian.
	Whatever they say they're doing is the exact opposite.
	You know, it's like the Defense of Marriage Act, it's not.
	The Equality Act is not.
	So whatever it's called, whatever they claim, go to the polar opposite and that's what you're really talking about.
	What is your advice if the man who's already announced, the first person to announce, asked for your advice as somebody who understands the corruption, not political advice, the corruption of DOJ?
	Do you play hardball?
	Talk to my attorney?
	Or do you say, Full disclosure, come at me.
	What is the way to deal with people who are so corrupt?
	Because I had a friend from his campaign who was subpoenaed from January 6th, and I told her, whatever you give them will be twisted.
	Is that good advice?
	I'm not a lawyer.
	Nor am I, thank God.
	My 35 years of experience in this world tells me that you have to be as aggressively obnoxious back as they are to you.
	They're not going to be your friend.
	They're not going to do a movie called Becoming.
	About your wife.
	You're not going to have glossy magazine covers about what a charming, wonderful person you are.
	And never presuppose good faith on their behalf.
	That way leads ruin.
	So don't co-operate.
	I mean, you have certain legal obligations that you have to comport yourself to.
	But that's why you have attorneys, right?
	But exercise all of your legal rights and options.
	You know, within the framework of what is required.
	But the idea of just kind of, oh gee, will you be my friend?
	Forget about it.
	Not happening.
	Wise advice from Chris Farrell.
	It's going to be a heck of a ride for the next two years.
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	Hey, Dr. G. I want to say happy Thanksgiving in advance to you, but I just wanted to give some people maybe some talking points about the insurrection, because I know it's going to come up.
	I mean, they have to agree.
	You mean as you're tucking into your turkey, you've got to have some talking points?
	Why?
	I mean, you know, you've got to agree with them that it was plot planned, it was formulated, it was bloody, it was everything that they're agreed with, but then let them know I'm talking about the 1860 insurrection when the South succeeded so they could maintain slavery.
	You're a sneaky, sneaky man.
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	Let's go to California.
	David, welcome to America First.
	Oh, thanks, Sebastian, for taking my call.
	Listen, I love your Manhood Hour on Friday, especially last Friday.
	It's great.
	I love it.
	That being said, once again, Bill Barr, that greasy pig, that rat, He's getting a platform from the Post to badmouth Trump.
	I can't believe this guy.
	He took a paycheck for doing nothing.
	Donald Trump didn't get a paycheck and did everything.
	And the second thing that's got my blood boiling is the Supreme Court now is going to hand over Trump's tax returns, his tax stuff.
	I think the latest decision has stalled.
	IRS can't find it.
	Who can?
	I mean, it's just ridiculous.
	I don't know when it's going to stop.
	It's so obvious to a blind man that it's day after day after day after day.
	Let's get Trump.
	Oh, and by the way, let's hide Hunter Biden.
	Yeah, I think the latest decision has stalled.
	I think Congress is not allowed to access the president's tax record.
	That was the judicial decision two weeks ago.
	But it doesn't matter.
	They won't give up.
	But I love the way you describe that.
	With your permission, I might actually post to that effect that Bill Barr did nothing while taking a paycheck from us, by contrast to President Trump, who did so much for us without getting paid.
	Nicely put.
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	Hey, Mr. G, are you there?
	I am.
	Where do I do stories from my life?
	There's a couple of locations I tell stories about.
	The post office and 7-Eleven.
	Post Office and 7-Eleven, those are where I meet Americans.
	Today, don't tell Katie because I'm still on the diet, I stopped at the new French patisserie that's just down the road from us and I was getting a very nice coffee and no croissants were involved in this exchange with the French bakery and a little old lady walked in and she looked at me and she said, Sebastian?
	And I said, yes!
	Oh no, I've been rumbled!
	Is this a liberal?
	And she said, I love you!
	I saw you, you were there at Mar-a-Lago.
	Yes, I was.
	And then she said, the GOP are useless in front of everybody in the shop and said, we need you and the likes of you back in the White House.
	And she said, I used to work there.
	I was so impressed.
	What a lovely lady.
	You know who you are.
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	We need more like her.
	Let's talk to somebody who had high hopes of the election.
	We're going to do an autopsy with him live now.
	We will vivisect American politics.
	He is one of your favorites, Lord Conrad Black.
	Welcome back to America First!
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Glad to be with you.
	So, people are still...
	Passing the midterm elections in very different ways on the conservative side.
	I listened to an interview with Molly Hemingway yesterday with my colleague Charlie Kirk, who said, well actually, you know, it's not as bad as it looks.
	We fired Nancy Pelosi.
	If it weren't for, you know, Certain things happening in terms of mailed out ballots, it would have been quite different.
	So, from your perch as an avid historian of American politics, what is the correct balance sheet for the midterm elections?
	Well, from my own perspective, I'm afraid it is quite negative.
	I'll tell you why.
	Like yourself, I've been steadily and without wavering a Trump supporter.
	I mean, not uncritically.
	There's some things he says and does that I wish he hadn't done.
	But that's neither here nor there.
	I think he was a very good president.
	He's a friend of mine and has been for many years.
	But that apart, he was a very effective president.
	And the takeaway to me, the chief takeaway is, That well, I have serious debts, grave debts, about the authenticity of the last election result, the last presidential election result.
	And these results are, as Molly Hemingway said, somewhat ambiguous.
	There were some good points in it.
	The fact is, the American voter Allowed itself to be distracted by this nonsense that democracy was at issue because of the supposedly violent and unconstitutional tendencies of Donald Trump.
	And what really horribly disappointed me was that even though three quarters of the people say the country's headed in the wrong direction, a very substantial majority don't approve of the job Biden's doing.
	And therefore, I thought, as you mentioned, I thought this would manifest itself in a substantial red wave.
	It was counteracted by this absolute fraud that we don't seem to be able to get off from around our necks like an albatross, that Trump is a menace to the Constitution and is a force for chaos and violence.
	And that, in my opinion, counteracted the dissatisfaction with the regime, so we got a very ambiguous result.
	And in sum, despite my reservations, to say the least, about the 2020 election, two times in a row the country has narrowly chosen Biden, who is a nonentity and an incompetent, Over Trump, who is, I think, one of the ten best presidents in the country's history.
	And I find it very depressing, and I don't think there's any easy palliation of it like Mali made.
	I mean, I just think it was, for those of us who supported Trump and thought he did a good job and would be a good president, I think it was a bad result.
	Effectively, I think, although he redeemed his position to a very significant degree by, I think, the best speech I've ever heard him give at Mar-a-Lago last Tuesday, you were there, where he focused on the future and put himself ahead of a lot of
	A good reform program that he outlined about reforming election counting and just the procedures of election to prevent all the nonsense that's gone on.
	And term limits for the Congress and a number of other things.
	He may have put himself back in contention, but as of the election night, I thought his time was passing.
	He was still an influence in the party, certainly, but effectively the country had said, we don't trust this guy enough to favor him even over Biden for all his weaknesses, and the Republicans We're effectively saying we owe Donald Trump a great deal, but it's time for a change, and DeSantis is the man.
	Now, I can live with DeSantis.
	I think he's a good governor.
	But I'm basically a Trump supporter still.
	So my attitude is it was a bad night, but not irretrievably bad.
	If you'll permit me, let me provide another possible narrative, and I'll do it with some empirical evidence.
	So here we have the person, the Secretary of State, who allegedly is going to become the governor of Arizona.
	This is Katie Hobbs giving an interview.
	Just listen to the quality or the lack of quality.
	No, she's a horrifying woman.
	This is Katie Hobbs on a friendly channel, CNN, and it's a brief cut, but I'll use this to bolster my argument.
	This is cut nine, play cut.
	Look, I'm not focused on what my former opponent is doing.
	I'm focused on all the things we need to do to get ready to lead on day one of my administration.
	But this kind of political rhetoric, these false accusations, they need to stop because many people across the state of Arizona and across the country are being misled by these so-called political leaders and their rhetoric is dangerous and it's leading to threats and violence and it needs to stop.
	So hardly on the levels of Cicero or Maggie Thatcher.
	So here's my narrative for what happened two weeks ago, Lord Black.
	In a system where we don't have election day, It's not Trump that was the issue, because in Pennsylvania, 50 days of voting was the norm.
	That's a month and a half.
	And more than half of those who voted, voted before there was even a debate between Federman and Oz.
	So my argument is that There is a ground game afoot that has nothing to do with candidates or connections to former presidents or current incumbents.
	It is the mechanics of the enterprise.
	The GOP has not responded, but the Democrats have a capacity to ballot harvest where it is legal.
	And they've built a system where they'll go to the old people's homes, they'll go to the colleges.
	In Arizona, at the University of Arizona, 96% of the students voted for that woman, for Hobbes, and 3.5% voted for Carrie Lake, who's one of the most charismatic, impressive candidates in American politics of at least the last decade.
	So my argument is, it has less to do with individual characters, There is undoubtedly merit in what you say.
	do with the harvesting not of votes, Lord Black, but of ballots?
	Your response?
	There is undoubtedly merit in what you say.
	What is impossible, certainly for me to do, is judge the proportionate contribution of the different elements to the result.
	In my opinion, to some extent, we have to give the Democrats tactical credit for going after the youth vote hammer and tongs.
	I think abortion helped them with the young people, young women especially.
	I think the Democrats, the Democrats, the Democrats, the Democrats, the Democrats, The attempt to forgive the student loans helped them.
	I think the reduction of the marijuana penalties, all of that helped them.
	And there was a targeted program to round up that section of the electorate, and I think it was pretty successful.
	And undoubtedly, there is this new game of the protracted election period and these vote-harvesting techniques.
	And I'm not claiming that anything was illegal.
	I mean, maybe there were some things like that, but nothing like as serious as two years ago.
	And you're quite right.
	The Democrats clearly got well ahead of us and was compounded by Senator McConnell withholding money until half the people had voted in some states.
	But there was also in there, I think, unfortunately, an element of the country saying, we just can't take Trump again.
	We don't like Biden, but Trump isn't the answer.
	And I think to some extent, they were sending that message to the Republican Party.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black, co-host, along with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett of the podcast Scholars and Sense.
	You can follow him at Conrad M. Black on Twitter and his website, conradmblack.com.
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	We'll be back with Lord Black in a moment.
	Can you play for me the cut 12, just briefly? - Okay.
	It is not your turn!
	It is not your turn!
	I hear the question!
	I hear your question, but we're not doing this the way you want it!
	This is a disrespect!
	I hear the question.
	I hear your question, but we're not doing this the way you want it.
	This is a disrespectful.
	It is.
	I'm done.
	Simon, I'm done.
	Simon, I'm done.
	I'm done with you right now.
	Go ahead.
	You're taking time away from your colleagues.
	Oh, that was spicy.
	She's not happy.
	Who was that?
	That was Corrine Jean-Pierre cutting off questions to Fauci in his last statement from the podium before he retires.
	You know, I have to say, I realize that Jean-Pierre is not...
	remotely as competent as Jen Psaki, but I like her better.
	I don't find her as obnoxious as Jen Psaki.
	Well, I'm going to raise something that Psaki just said a moment ago that will be a perfect segue for us.
	I just have to find it on my Twitter feed.
	Jeff?
	Oh, is he not here?
	Okay.
	All right.
	Um...
	Okay, good.
	Good, good, good.
	When did you have that business dealing with President Trump?
	The late 90s.
	Almost 25 years ago.
	Real estate or media?
	What was the ilk?
	Yeah, we owned the Chicago Sun-Times and it had a low-rise building right by the Tribune Tower and the Wrigley Tower, so right downtown.
	Prime redevelopment location.
	So we put it up for bids.
	The Trump Organization's bid won, so he developed it.
	It was a joint venture.
	And what was that initial negotiation like?
	I had a lot of prominent directors.
	You know, Bob Strauss, the Democratic chairman, and Henry Kissinger, and Dwayne Andreas of Archer Daniels Midland, and others, Leslie Wexner.
	And, you know, none of them disliked Trump, but they said, look, this guy has a pretty funny reputation.
	So, you know, just watch it that he doesn't pile Lacoste on you.
	And so, you know, we watched it closely.
	And he was, he came in right on budget and right on deadline.
	You know, Chicago's a city very proud of its architectural tradition because of Frank Lloyd Wright and Van Der Rohe and so on.
	It's a beautiful building, 98 stories, and he had it absolutely filled before it opened with first-class people.
	And it was just a first-class professional operation, and he used to come out there every month.
	And I would see him often, and he would deal with, you know, the avaricious Chicago municipal politicians and rather dodgy building trade unions, and just like swatting away flies.
	I mean, Donald, you know, sailed freely.
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	Lord Black, you mentioned I played you a cut from the current White House Press Secretary.
	She was very, very angry today as Fauci gave his last speech from the podium before he retires.
	You said, who do you prefer more, Jen Psaki or the current incumbent?
	Well, Jen Psaki was more competent.
	I mean, this woman's not very competent, frankly, but I find her rather an amiable personality, where I found Jen Psaki a...
	Really rather obnoxious.
	I remind you Kayleigh McEnany was the champion.
	I thought she was great.
	Let's talk about the predecessor.
	Let's talk about Jen Psaki because she's in the news.
	This is from foxnews.com.
	Former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said Monday that there wasn't a lot Democrats could have done to change the inflation reality.
	A federal judge ruled Monday that the former White House press secretary must comply with the subpoena and offer a deposition in a lawsuit that claims the Biden administration colluded with big tech to censor speech.
	Now, her response, and I must read it to you, this is directly from Jen Psaki to the judge, Lord Black.
	Sitting for a deposition, would be extremely burdensome for me.
	I understand that I would need to devote several days to preparing for the deposition, as well as attending the deposition itself, and that would be highly disruptive to both my work and my family.
	My response on social media, Lord Black, is, well, that's a great excuse that President Trump can use now that there's a special counsel coming after him.
	Your response?
	Well, that's just nonsense.
	I mean, of all the self-indulgent, self-serving pompous statements, I mean, you know, she knew when she took that job on that there was going to be a good deal of controversy, and because her party is so addicted to stirring up spurious litigation against its opponents, she might reasonably assume that some of it would come back at them.
	And as press secretary, she might have to testify and give evidence.
	And, you know, the president, current president, did her the honor of conferring that important position on her.
	And she had to know that something like that went with the territory.
	So what is she talking about?
	I mean, this is just the hypocrisy of these people that, you know, we can drag perfectly innocent Republicans through the courts and smear them and tear them and feather them in our parrot media.
	It's just a mudslinging operation of a rabidly partisan nature in most of the networks.
	And most of the print media, national political media, we can do that, but they can't even call for evidence from us.
	Well, you know, get lost.
	That's not how it works.
	And the fact that this Department of Justice, Biden's Department of Justice, less than 72 hours after the announcement from Mar-a-Lago that he's running, have deployed, impaneled a new special counsel to, quote unquote, oversee the findings from impaneled a new special counsel to, quote unquote, oversee the findings from the Mar-a-Lago raid and the January uh...
	Could it be any more transparent what they're really doing, Lord Black?
	Of course not.
	And it is indeed the most unspontaneous act in presidential politics since the Democratic Party in 1940 nominated Franklin D. Roosevelt for a third term.
	After he said that you should feel free to vote for anyone you want.
	It was all rigged that they would all vote for him, of course.
	I mean, I think that may be an abstruse reference, but he pretended he was accepting a draft, but the whole thing was organized.
	And here, I mean, they obviously had it all ready to go, and they came out of the gate like a greyhound as soon as Trump made his announcement.
	I mean, look, I wrote In the first newspaper that I was a large shareholder, a little daily newspaper, about 60 miles east of Montreal, but right on the Vermont border in Canada.
	But on the Vermont border, we had a lot of American readers.
	And I wrote 50 years ago that if this whole Watergate business was proceeded with the way it was looking, Then eventually we would have the criminal justice system a kind of mound that both parties would constantly storm to take it over and use it against the other.
	And American politics would be reduced to criminal investigations and prosecutions.
	Instead of a civilized electoral process.
	And now, you know, we have, quite rightly, the Republican, imminently to be Republican, controlled House of Representatives announcing it's finally looking into the Biden family's financial dealings after this man in Delaware has been twiddling his thumbs for the last, I mean, he wins the John Durham prize for wasting everyone's time.
	And the next day, I think it was, that the most contemptible attorney general of the United States in my lifetime, because of his rank partisanship and inarticulation, produces this spurious claim that they're lumping together January 6th, where the director of the FBI said a week after the event it had nothing to do with Trump, and the wrongdoers were not connected to him.
	And I link that with this keystone cops raid at Mar-a-Lago trying to patch together the notion that the former president violated the Espionage Act.
	I mean, that has got to be the most fatuous argument I've ever heard directed against any American president.
	Absolutely.
	We've been talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	The latest book, the most relevant, is Donald J. Trump, A President Like No Other.
	Also co-host of the podcast, along with Victor Davis Hanson and Bill Bennett, scholars and sense.
	Follow him at ConradMBlack on Twitter and ConradMBlack.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	- Conrad? - Yes, sir.
	I'm just curious, I should have asked you on air but we ran out of time.
	So when you vote in Canada, do you prove who you are and how fast do you get the national results?
	You get all of the national results except a few of those very northern, remote areas of Eskimos and so on, which are obviously very few votes.
	You get everything the same day.
	Now, like the United States, you go all the way out to Hawaii.
	Right.
	We just have the North American mainland time zones.
	So it takes a while to bring it all in from Vancouver and so on.
	But you get it all on the same day or maybe 1 a.m.
	or 2 a.m.
	the day after the election.
	And then when you vote, do you have to prove who you are?
	Yes, you have to be prepared to prove it.
	And in general, I asked Friday, you go to your whatever.
	I mean, you can pre-vote.
	There is a formula for that, as in the United States, but that's all verified, too.
	And you can either deliver a ballot or send it in, but it has to be sent by you or delivered by you.
	But on the day, all voting, apart from that, is on Election Day, so 97% of the voting is on Election Day.
	And you go to your local polling station with ID, and you give your name, and they mark it off and make sure that no one else has used it.
	And it's a paper ballot.
	It's hand-counted, and you've got scrutineers from both parties.
	None of this nonsense you had...
	For two years ago in Pennsylvania and so on, the scrutineers from the Republicans have been kept back 20 feet, and that's just outrageous.
	I mean, here you get the scrutineers for all the parties, even the funny little parties, you know, the libertarians and so on.
	They're all there, and they all see the ballots as they're counted and marked.
	So we haven't had a remotely serious Dispute of the accuracy of a federal election in this country in over 100 years.
	Crazy.
	Unbelievable.
	All right, we have to go to my next guest.
	Thank you, Conrad.
	Can I ask you one thing?
	Yes.
	How do you see it right now as between Donald and Can I send you, so on the way home from Mar-a-Lago, I wrote like a 3,000 word article that was published.
	Can I send you that?
	Because I see it very differently from many.
	Can I just text you?
	I wish you would, yeah.
	I'll email it to you.
	Yeah, okay.
	Did you see my piece in the New York Sun after Trump's speech at Mar-a-Lago?
	Did you send it?
	Was it the one you sent me the draft of?
	Was that an earlier one?
	I think that may have been an earlier one.
	Look, I'll send it to you just in case.
	Let's exchange articles.
	Thanks, Conrad.
	God bless.
	Bye-bye.
	Lauren.
	Hello.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	I'm going to want the photograph of the Mustang to talk about for this one, all right?
	Yeah.
	Hopefully you love it.
	Twitter at Lauren Fix.
	And then it's, what is it, Coach?
	What is your?
	Car Coach Reports.
	Car Coach Reports.
	Can you just add carcoachreports.com?
	Carco.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense.
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I may just have to give up posting substantive stuff or stuff I think is serious.
	I posted a photograph of me with my Mustang.
	I got her back from the shop on Saturday because I had disc brakes fitted and a covert Bluetooth stereo.
	Don't worry, you can't see anything.
	It's all hidden.
	And the photograph and the comment that, hey, she's back, Got something like 3,000 likes in 24 hours.
	And I know I've got a million plus followers on Twitter, but my average post when it's political and I think it's really important is like 300 likes.
	I think I'm just going to post my dogs.
	My breakfast and my Mustang from now on.
	Do we have that photograph?
	Can we get it up there?
	It's a PhD weight loss one, right?
	You've just got to find it.
	Let's talk to the woman who made that amazing updating of my vehicle possible.
	She has something that is called the Car Coach Reports.
	She sends me stuff with regularity.
	She is the Car Coach, Lauren Fix.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Well, thanks for having me.
	Lots going on and I'm really, really excited I was able to get you some safe brakes put on your vehicle.
	Yeah, a little bit spongy when it's raining.
	Not so exciting.
	So I've got disc brakes all around.
	There is my baby.
	There is my 66 Mustang.
	I've got the 2020 as well for the everyday stuff.
	And the new steering wheel.
	Thank you for the recommendations and your contact.
	Last thing, and I'm not going to touch it, some period correct rims.
	And then maybe some AC.
	I might put some AC in because it gets a little hot and sticky here in the swamp.
	All right, enough about me and my pony.
	Although I do need people to go to my website and tell me a name.
	I need a name.
	And not Sally, okay?
	I'm not doing the stupid Mustang.
	Sally, I need a female name.
	Go to SebGawker.com and send me a little message at SebGawker.com.
	All right, you've been sending me some fascinating stuff.
	First things first, it's not cars.
	Right now he's allegedly negotiating, but what is the impact going to be if we have a rail strike, Lauren, in America?
	Oh, it's going to be huge.
	Now, I know everyone's talking about it, but you're literally looking at billions of dollars of losses because everything goes coast to coast.
	Cars get transported from the manufacturing plant.
	Well, we're going to take you to the sub area where it then goes to your dealer.
	So that means good luck getting cars.
	We can't get them now.
	That means all the components, tires, metal, just think of everything that you need gets from point A to point B from the West Coast to the East Coast, usually by rail.
	Then it's transported to a diesel powered rig.
	And then from there to the final destination, the last mile to your store or to wherever you're getting.
	And that Yes, they use airplanes, but they also use rail.
	And without rail, we're in a lot of trouble.
	And we've been using it for years, plus passengers.
	Amtrak, which is owned by the government as well, they can't seem to organize the Postal Service or Amtrak.
	But the fact is, without diesel, and there's a shortage of diesel, and without the railroad system, we have a supply chain nightmare.
	This is where Buttigieg jumps up and goes, oh yeah, this is going to be a problem.
	Really?
	My worry is, yeah, trains are super important, but if we have a diesel shortage, trucks are the lifeblood of America.
	Isn't that even more worrisome, Lauren?
	I believe they're both worrisome, but the diesel is massive.
	How does gasoline get from the refinery to your gas station?
	How does everything get transported, whether it be food, clothing, literally every item that you use, even boxes of diapers and cases of pencils and school supplies is all diesel powered.
	Yes, there are some electric vehicles that do light stuff going from short run distances.
	But if you want something hauled across country and it's made here in the U.S.
	or overseas, it's going to be diesel.
	And that includes the boats and the airplanes.
	Yeah.
	Last question.
	We've only got a minute left.
	You've got to follow her.
	CarCoachReports.com.
	Lauren Fix.
	Lauren Fix on Twitter.
	You sent me a story, I haven't even had a look at it.
	What is the disaster of the Audi diesel truck trial?
	Just give us a little tease so everybody can go and read your report.
	Okay, it's on a website on YouTube called VinWiki, V-I-N-W-I-K-I, and I've submitted seven stories to him.
	I went down to his place in Atlanta, and we tell car stories, and one of those was a very interesting accident I had in the desert.
	We talk about how it was Oprah's automotive expert, whether you like her or not, it was really good for promoting my brand, and of course, some racing while pregnant.
	So if you go to VinWiki and you put my name in there, Lauren Fix, you'll find I'm a little bit different.
	All right, that's a really good name.
	I don't know who came up with that VIN wiki.
	V-I-N, like vehicle identification number of VIN wiki.
	Right.
	All right, we have to get you back for a longer chat.
	In the meantime, follow her at carcoachreports.com and at LaurenFix.
	Next up, General Don Baldock.
	What really happened in New Hampshire in the midterms?
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	It was the AC.
	Yeah.
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	And then and then there's like all this stuff about offset and I have no idea what to do.
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	No, not me, Dr. G. So this from the Daily Wire, Nicholas Gutierrez, who was released from custody, the 22-year-old who Plowed into 75 recruits from the STARS, the Sheriff's Explorer Training Academy in South Whittier, California.
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	He has stated, I wish it had never happened.
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	He says he fell asleep.
	And woke up to the sound of recruits banging on his windows.
	You can't plow into 75 people and hit 25 of them unless you accelerate it.
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	Let's talk to a man who served this country with honor in the uniform of the U.S.
	Army Special Operations Brigadier General from the Granite State, General Don Baldock.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Well, hello, sir.
	How are you?
	And I hope your listeners are well.
	Yeah, we're preparing for Thanksgiving.
	We're having debates as to which is the best pie.
	I can't decide between apple pie and pecan pie, but we've got bigger issues to discuss today.
	So I love the Granite State.
	I spend every summer there and often my winters as well.
	I'm so sad the old man of the mountain fell off the mountain above Franconia.
	More than a decade ago, but will you help us understand because we still can't work out the Fetterman success in Pennsylvania.
	Pennsylvanians, what have you done?
	Can you tell us what happened to you and what the people of New Hampshire did?
	Well, I think basically what happened was, you know, $56 million spent by Senator Hassan on lies.
	And, you know, the lies were targeted based off of abortion, Social Security, and Medicare.
	I saw them doing that across the nation.
	Mail-ins, you know, 8 by 10, people getting them every day.
	You know, she did, for every one of my commercials, you know, she did five.
	And, you know, the money playing out the lies, I think, had a lot to do with it.
	You know, it's fear, it's uncertainty.
	It created that in the younger generation, created that amongst women and the elderly.
	And then the fact that the Democrats do very well here in New Hampshire by taking advantage of same-day voter registration and mail-in balloting.
	And quite frankly, the Republican Party does not.
	There was significant amount of people doing same-day voter registration across the state.
	And I'm not saying that there was anything illegal.
	It's just a lot of people showed up and cast their vote for the Democrats, which is something that you can't poll, right?
	If you looked at the polls, you would see that, you know, it was either going to be, you know, a one-point victory by her or a one-point victory by me, but not nine points.
	And certainly, Caroline Leavitt's race, you know, against Pappas, played out the same way.
	So it just doesn't make any sense.
	Polling wise, it doesn't make any sense based on the fact that Maggie Hassan was so unpopular here.
	She didn't campaign.
	I out campaigned her by a mile and a half with 85 town halls, two years of campaigning, you know, constantly out there, making myself available to everybody.
	And she just did nothing.
	And she wins.
	And what do we hear?
	Nothing.
	So General, $56 million you say that she spent, Maggie Hassan.
	How much did you spend on your campaign?
	So I had $2 million in the general election.
	I had some outside help for advertising, but it was, you know, it wasn't anywhere near what she should have done.
	Mitch McConnell... And this is my question, what support did you get from Mitch McConnell?
	None.
	Zero.
	And was there any communications?
	Did they say why they don't want to support you?
	Or why they're spending money on their buddies in Alaska like Lisa Murkowski?
	Well, I think I was viewed as him, you know, by him as, you know, America first, MAGA candidate, you know, someone who wants to put the country first.
	Imagine that.
	You know, when did that become an evil thing?
	And, you know, he knew that, you know, I wasn't supportive of him.
	Uh, you know, being the leader.
	Uh, and so, um, and he's not popular here in New Hampshire, either.
	So, um, it is, you know, a combination of those things.
	Um, and, you know, he didn't support me.
	And, you know, uh, Caroline Leavitt didn't get any support either, um, in her race, and neither did Bob Burns in the second CD.
	And it all played out, right?
	Um, you know, they get 100% backing by their party.
	Yeah.
	all come together and they all get out there.
	Republicans, you know, we, you know, we eat our own.
	We don't know how to win.
	Even with good candidates, we don't know how to win.
	And this should have been a win for Caroline Leavitt, myself.
	And then they want to blame my former boss, President Trump, when instead the person who did nothing for candidates like you actually is the person that bears the responsibility.
	56 million to 2 million.
	All right.
	Well, I don't think we've seen the last of you.
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	Just so close.
	And McConnell's PAC spent $4.5 million trashing him before that.
	Right.
	For the other one, so he was, you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	And that's only less than two months before the election.
	They trashed him before that.
	Will you make that point?
	I'll ask him.
	Yeah.
	What's this?
	We have to record that for the Thanksgiving.
	Oh, okay.
	And the new Patriot Supply script.
	The corrected one.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Okay, got it.
	Thank you.
	America first.
	We mentioned it.
	Karine Jean-Pierre got a little bit angry with a journalist asking a question from Fauci, his last speech at the podium before he retires.
	Goodbye, don't let the door hit you on your backside.
	Cut 12, play cut.
	Jeremy, it's Jeremy.
	It is not your turn.
	It is not your turn.
	I hear the question.
	I hear your question, but we're not doing this the way you want it.
	This is a disrespect.
	You need to call from people across the room.
	She has a valid question.
	She's asked about the origin of COVID.
	I hear the question.
	And Dr. Fauci is the best person to answer that.
	I hear your question, but we're not doing this the way you want it.
	This is a disrespectful...
	It is.
	I'm done.
	Simon, I'm done.
	Simon, I'm done.
	I'm done with you right now.
	Go ahead.
	You're taking time away from your colleagues.
	They are not doing it the way you want to do it!
	You will shut up!
	Oh my gosh, getting spicy there.
	That's professionalism.
	That's a smooth press conference.
	Nicely done there, Jean-Pierre.
	Alright, there's something we have to add to that discussion.
	First, Jeff, what do you think of my idea?
	I like having people on who have lost their races to tell us what really happened.
	Is that a bad idea?
	How is that for radio?
	I think that's really good because you really kind of get what's going on there and how people like Mitch aren't helping us at all.
	All right, so that shocking figure that Maggie Hassan raises or gets the Democrats to raise $56 million for her, and Baldock, General Baldock raises $2 million by himself.
	In the break, you said something that's a little bit even more important than that.
	What is it?
	In fact, New Hampshire's primary is really late.
	It was in the middle of September, which everyone else is in the general election.
	And this super PAC that came up, they realized afterwards it was funded by the Senate PAC leadership, which was McConnell.
	And they spent $4.6 million trashing him in the primary.
	So you're trashing the guy who wins the primary, which means what about McConnell, Jeff?
	It means he'd prefer to have a Democrat win the seat than to have any Republican.
	Exactly.
	And that's less than two months from the election.
	That's when everybody else is in the general election, basically.
	He was destroyed by the time the election roll even started.
	Hang on, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.
	It's Trump's fault, isn't it?
	Oh yeah, of course.
	It's the Trump factor.
	Yeah, it's the Trump factor.
	Mitch McConaughey is such a scumbag.
	Spending millions of dollars to defeat a fellow Republican.
	I'd like to know when the Democrats have ever done... When have the Democrats spent millions to defeat somebody on their side?
	I don't think we'll ever find out because...
	They don't have things like rhinos.
	They don't have dinos.
	Democrats in name only.
	Did I just invent something?
	I think I just invented something on live radio.
	DINOS!
	There are no such thing.
	They're extinct.
	They don't exist because Democrats, ah, they stick together.
	All right, FTX.
	Billions, billions lost.
	by this complete con artist, the second biggest donor to the Democrats.
	What's the truth?
	And what does it mean for you?
	You don't want to miss a millisecond.
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	Alright.
	People are morons.
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	Oh yeah, Thanksgiving.
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	Bitcoin!
	FTX!
	What do you need to know about it?
	I've had one attitude since the get-go.
	It's a con if you don't like fiat currency.
	This is the fiat currency of fiat currencies.
	But now we have a massive, massive scandal.
	We're going to dissect it all for you today here on America First, one-on-one with a very special guest.
	But first, let's listen to Sam Bankman-Fried's girlfriend?
	The quote-unquote brains behind it all in a very strange interview for a podcast.
	Kind of admitting, fessing up to the fact that it was all a scam.
	Let's listen to Caroline Ellison.
	You have been able to pull this thing off without your mathematics degree or it has been the pillar of your trading activity?
	Uh, yeah, absolutely could pull it off without my math degree.
	I use very little math.
	When you start out as, like, an intern, and you, you know, do something and accidentally lose, you know, maybe a thousand dollars for your desk, you're like, oh god, like, everyone's gonna hate me now, like, this is terrible.
	And yeah, over time you have to sort of, yeah, get comfortable with larger and larger swings of money.
	Yeah, I'm trying to think of a good example of a trade where I've lost a ton of money.
	Well, I don't know.
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	Giggle, giggle, giggling.
	It's just so funny.
	Who needs math?
	I won't tell you about the biggest account I lost.
	What does it all mean?
	Can we understand it?
	Is it just a shell game?
	Let's talk to the newly appointed co-host of Steve Bannon's War Room.
	She's a good friend of America First, Natalie Winters.
	Welcome back to the Salem News Channel.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	All right.
	Well, you've published numerous articles on this topic, on the FDX scandal.
	Your expertise in the past for us has been on COVID, what's going on in China.
	We're going to discuss all that and more.
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	So let's begin at the beginning.
	I'm a complete neophyte.
	I'm a skeptic.
	I think Bitcoin is all a big con, although I do like You know, a financial system or a carrier of worth is independent of the Fed and other government influences.
	But give us the basics.
	Let's start at the beginning.
	Who is Caroline Ellison?
	And who is this Sam Bankman of Freed?
	What do we need to know about FTX?
	Because they had their own currency, but this is also a kind of aggregator of other Bitcoin investments.
	But you give us the 101, please.
	Sure, I too am a Luddite in the sense that I think cryptocurrency is a scam and it always has been, and this whole FTX incident is just the latest example of that.
	But there's really interesting political ramifications, really worldwide, that you can sort of tease out from the unraveling of FTX.
	So I think most people know Sam Bankman-Freed.
	I think that interview you just played of Caroline Ellison is probably a close runner-up to some of the more awkward interviews that SBF has given.
	But Sam Binkman Freed really became one of the leading donors to the Democratic Party during the 2020 campaign, of course, in the midterms.
	The second biggest after George Soros, correct?
	$40 million.
	But also other... I know you know that I talk a lot about COVID and the Chinese Communist Party.
	There are also links with FTX there as well.
	But Sam Bankman-Fried has also been sort of bankrolling, using his billions of dollars to fund different advocacy groups that aren't even necessarily political expenditures in a campaign sense.
	But his brother... Lots of conservative ones, I'm sure, like Second Amendment pro-life organizations, right, Natalie?
	Oh, of course.
	Yeah, no, not quite.
	One of my favorite ones, because again, as Steve always says on War of, there are no conspiracies, only coincidences.
	But Sam Binkman-Fried's brother was actually appointed to run a group called Guarding Against Pandemics, where they deployed hundreds of thousands of dollars to run ads to help Joe Biden pass pandemic legislation.
	But before I get into the weeds on that, all of that to say that SBF Is a major power player within the kind of ecosystem of Democratic campaign financing, but it's more than just that $40 million sum that was deployed in the most recent midterm election.
	But that's of course why I think the media has treated him so kindly because he is sort of a darling of the Democratic Party.
	But what we saw was FTX unravel very, very closely in terms of timing To the midterm election, and this is something that really piqued my interest, because essentially the only reason that the implosion of FTX occurred after the midterm election, and by that I mean basically the day after the midterms, was because Binance, which people know is the Chinese Communist Party-owned cryptocurrency exchange platform... What is that name again?
	Binance.
	Binance.
	Okay, carry on.
	So Binance is basically the Chinese, I would say, counterpart or competitor to FTX.
	It's a cryptocurrency exchange platform, but it's heavily linked to the Chinese Communist Party, not just because it's a Chinese company, so therefore subject to regulation by Beijing, however it sees fit, but a lot of the higher-ups, including all the way up to the executive of it, I'm pretty sure you could say documented members of the Chinese Communist Party, but people who really helped to serve the ends and advance the agenda of the CCP.
	So what I thought was very interesting is that the head of the Global Advisory Board to Binance is an individual by the name of Max Baucus.
	Now, Max Baucus is one of these DC swamp creatures So ossified.
	I mean, I don't even know how the guy's still alive.
	But he served in the Obama-Biden administration as an ambassador to China.
	He's a very close friend of Joe Biden's.
	If you read the reporting back during those years, you can see that it was actually Joe Biden who was the main advocate for his ascension to the ambassadorship, even though in his confirmation hearing, Max Baucus said, I actually know nothing about China, so I guess sort of similar vibes to that Carolyn Ellison interview.
	But what's so interesting is that Max Baucus is the head of the advisory board at Binance, which, like I said, was really key in staving off FTX's implosion until after the midterms.
	So the day before the midterms, Binance says they're going to come in and buy FTX.
	They wait until the day after the midterms to say, hey, actually, we're not.
	And then we see all this chaos.
	And Sue, so for me as someone who follows the Chinese Communist Party very closely and how these sort of swampy type democratic politicians end up on the boards of a lot of these companies, I think to some extent you saw Binance sort of intervene on behalf of the Democratic Party to help save one of their largest donors from this PR nightmare and obviously the trillion dollar implosion that we saw happen.
	To push that until after the midterms, which I think is very curious timing.
	But there's, of course, other links to the Democratic Party.
	What about Caroline Ellison's father?
	So the guy who ran FTX, his girlfriend, who was part of it, his father is all connected back to the government and the Democrats and the Bitcoin.
	Cabal, is he not?
	Exactly.
	So she, I think you could sort of compare to like a shadow CEO type figure, even though SPF was the front of the operation, which is hard to understand why, if anyone's ever watched an interview he's given, he's not particularly the best at giving interviews, but I guess neither is Caroline.
	But Caroline's father, which, and I think this may speak to some of the flippancy that you see in that interview, Her father was the boss of Gary Gensler, who is the new chair of the SEC, the Security and Exchange Commission, which of course should be responsible for regulating cryptocurrency.
	But that's of course not the case, as we saw FTX.
	I think the numbers, they sort of change every day.
	There's more and more reporting.
	But he was essentially loaning himself, I mean, over a billion dollars just artificially constructing the value of these random, not stable coins, but random versions of cryptocurrency out of thin air essentially, because there was no regulation.
	And I'll add this to the whole sort of, I think very twisted web of conflicts of interest and democratic partisanship.
	So Sam Bankman-Fried's brother, an individual by the name of Gabe, was actually a former legislative correspondent for a democratic congressman.
	His name is Sean Gaston.
	I believe he's from Pennsylvania.
	And he's not just some random, you know, member, one of the 435 people that, you know, whose names you don't really recognize.
	This is someone Who serves on the House Financial Services Committee, specifically on the Subcommittee on Investor Protection and Consumer Protection.
	You're going to have to start doing these interviews, Natalie, with a whiteboard or like, you know, those detective movies with the pins and the colored cotton string between them, because this is how convoluted This cabal truly is.
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	So let's step back a bit because, again, the second biggest funder to the Democrat cause is $44 million, but that's just a drop in the ocean of all the other things he was involved with, along with his brother and everything else.
	The announcement of the collapse was delayed because of the midterms, clearly.
	But why did this collapse?
	To me it seems as if this is a A classic Ponzi scheme.
	This is like the bird he made off.
	It was a sham.
	It was a scam.
	And at some point, not only was he taking funds out from his investors' accounts to pay for himself, he was robbing Peter to pay Paul.
	So at some point, this just became a complete house of cards.
	Did it not, Natalie?
	No, I think you're totally right in that it was a scam.
	From the get go.
	And I think, you know, I'm not necessarily an economics expert, but I think when you look at it through the lens of the lack of regulation, and the political side of it, I think that coming from the Hill coming from the White House, There wasn't really any sense of fear from the FTX side of things that they were going to be held accountable or penalized for their actions.
	And frankly, I think maybe that's why they were donating so heavily to these candidates in the first place, sort of trying to buy immunity.
	And keep in mind, it wasn't just that they were donating to Democrats, too.
	If you go through The Washington Post has a chart Wow.
	of the largest donors throughout this midterm election cycle.
	And a guy by the name of, I believe it's Ryan Salami or Salame, but he was another FTX, high-ranking executive.
	But he was also donating, I believe the number was about $9 million, to Kevin McCarthy and some of his affiliated PACs, backing McCarthy PACs.
	So again, I think when you see kind of going after both sides of the aisle, to me it sort of seems like they were trying to buy immunity, sort of forecasting what they knew that what they were doing was wrong and that there weren't going to be necessarily sort of forecasting what they knew that what they were doing was wrong and that But I think, of course, as you say, the tragedy in all of this is people who put their money there and now can no longer
	So let's actually listen.
	Don't take Natalie's word for it or my word for it.
	This is Sam Bankman Freed in a very, very peculiar interview, kind of fessing up to how many people he's paying off.
	Cut to, play cut.
	So how do you find political fundraisers?
	Do they come to you directly?
	Is it easy to get to you and say, we need this money for this candidate?
	And what type of candidates do you tend to support?
	Oh yeah, well if you, if I, you know, pulled out my phone here and just looked at my last 10 text messages, you know, about half of them are going to be people asking for, you know, politicians asking for contributions.
	It's a weird thing to kind of admit to, isn't it?
	That you're in the middle of an interview.
	Yeah, yeah, and I'm just getting hit out by politicos all the time for contributions.
	How did this guy get to where he is?
	I mean, what, he's 30 years old and he's caused, you know, a billion dollars worth plus of damage.
	How did this all begin?
	Do you have a sense of how the con was sold at the beginning?
	Yeah, it sort of seems like a get-rich-quick scam on both sides, in the sense that you have SBF somehow amassing a net worth of billions of dollars, but then you also have on the flip side, politicians just trying to extract every single thing that they can out of him, texting him.
	I remember it was big news.
	When Anthony Fauci was texting with Mark Zuckerberg about colluding on COVID-19, yet this guy seems to be texting with basically every Democratic lawmaker for campaign contributions.
	That's a pretty intimate relationship, in my opinion.
	But yeah, the origins of it are very, very, very weird.
	I think that there's a lot more reporting that has to be done.
	Like I said, it's unfortunate that the mainstream media isn't necessarily going after him with a fine-toothed comb, to say the least, going through all of how we got to where we are.
	And frankly, I don't expect them to.
	But some of the reporting from independent media outlets has sort of shown the origins of it, whether there's some level sort of government involvement in terms of propping up this company, the fact that it's headquartered in the Bahamas, the fact that Sam Bankman-Fried is the child of two the fact that Sam Bankman-Fried is the child of two professors at Stanford.
	And you have the brother who's very involved in politics, obviously Caroline Ellison's father is linked to Gary Gensler.
	And I'll even raise you this.
	Sam Bankman-Fried's aunt is the dean at Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health, which for people who followed the COVID origin story very closely, really was a key player in California.
	And Columbia, of course, is home to Jeffrey Sachs, I would say the leading voice of the anti-lab leak movement.
	I follow these crazy stories.
	I'm a researcher at heart and I love tying, connecting the dots, tying these pieces together.
	But I've never seen a story I think that is so ridiculous in terms of the scope of whether you want to call it conspiracy or coincidence.
	In terms of, you know, from COVID to the Democratic Party to establishment Republicans to cryptocurrency to the Chinese Communist Party, all sort of converging and just happening to implode the day after midterm elections.
	Yeah, yeah.
	As, of course, the timing 72 hours or less after President Trump announced what happens The Department of Justice announces a new special counsel to investigate President Trump.
	There are no coincidences.
	This time, well, you know, they might try to sweep it under the carpet, but I think enough Democrats lost money that there might actually be some consequences we shall see.
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	Let's pivot right now.
	Let's talk about China, which is your forte.
	Very strange cut from Christopher Wray, the disgraced director of the FBI in front of Congress, talking about a social media platform.
	One of the ones that I am not on.
	Cut three, Chris Wray.
	We do have national security concerns, at least from the FBI's end, about TikTok.
	They include the possibility that the Chinese government could use it to control data collection on millions of users or control the recommendation algorithm, which could be used for influence operations if they so chose, or to control software on millions of devices.
	Which gives the opportunity to potentially technically compromise personal devices, so there's a number of concerns there as to What is actually happening and actually being done?
	That's probably something that would be better addressed in in a closed Classified setting and I could see what information we might be able to share that way But that's probably not much more than I could add to that other than to say it is certainly something that's on our radar And we share your concerns Strange way of putting it.
	So the FBI has concerns about one of the world's most popular social media platforms that can track you, take your data, push information to you, skew algorithms to be part of a communist party propaganda effort.
	They have concerns At the same time that they're actually doing things like raiding pro-life Americans' homes with two dozen armed FBI agents in front of seven screaming children.
	So it's weird that they have concerns about Communist China, but they have much more action when it comes to harmless individuals who are pro-life.
	Natalie, can you talk to us about why TikTok is such a problem and who it really answers to?
	Of course.
	So I think the first angle of attack in the early days of TikTok was that it was being used to spread pro-Beijing propaganda in the United States.
	In other words, this app, whose parent company ByteDance, is effectively a state-owned enterprise in China.
	It's a former CEO, member of the Chinese Communist Party.
	He's pledged to use his companies and apps to, quote, promote socialist core values, You can read there's a whole letter where he goes on to say that he will use all of his apps to basically promote devotion to the Chinese Communist Party.
	But people were concerned that TikTok was going to be used to sort of shape the narrative in the United States about China, much like China has paid for advertisements and essentially paid for favorable coverage in a lot of mainstream media outlets.
	But I think the second iteration of that, the next step And that logical conclusion, which is what we're getting to now, and really is the, I think, more potent angle in terms of the threat that TikTok poses, is its ability to alter discourse in the United States about every other subject except China.
	And what I mean by that is that you see TikTok, especially with young voters now, really being a breeding ground for a lot of just far left, I would just call it degenerate content, whether it's really, really just offensively pro-abortion content, offensive gender stuff, just It really is being used to push a far-left social agenda.
	And I think that this sort of dovetails with a lot of what I've talked about in the past, the reporting that I've discussed on your show, which is Obviously, China's unrestricted warfare in the sense that they want to subvert the United States, take out the United States from within, and of course, advancing these Marxist concepts of gender identity, subversive ideologies when it comes to whether it's family units or abortion.
	That's definitely part of it.
	But I think that to compound that, why you see such a lack of an appetite, although that's an understatement, From organizations like the FBI and, of course, our elected officials.
	Now, to go after TikTok, with the exception of Donald Trump, who tried his hardest to ban the app, is because TikTok really, really has mounted an impressive and a behemoth of a lobbying campaign, hiring a lot of former advisors to very high-level individuals.
	You have actually a former senior advisor to Nancy Pelosi was hired as a TikTok lobbyist, a former election director for the Biden 2020 campaign, is now responsible for running the apps misinformation and sort of election censoring policy.
	Stop there for a second because I want to drill down in a moment on why it's so pernicious.
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	So there's a strange paradox with TikTok and you'll have to unpack this for me because, you know, I use things, you know, like, you know, libs of TikTok will post some new insanity from some trans gender lunatic and we'll use the cut on the show and we'll do that every day almost.
	But I don't spend time on TikTok.
	I'm on Twitter.
	I'm on Facebook.
	I'm on Truth Social.
	I'm on Instagram.
	There's this weird – I'm going to just ask you to explain it to me.
	I look at regular state propaganda coming out of Beijing.
	Whether it's, you know, organs of the state.
	Whether it's the newspapers they own in Asia.
	And it's really cack-handed.
	It is really unsubtle.
	It's heavy-handed.
	It's like, you know, the conservative movies about, God is good, you should read the Bible.
	It's not very subtle.
	The Chinese art of propaganda, on the official side, Isn't very sophisticated.
	And then when you look at TikTok, and my gosh, it's so powerful.
	The short videos, the dopamine hit that 12-year-old girl gets from seeing that quote-unquote affirmation of transgender top surgery.
	Can you explain to me why TikTok is so more efficacious?
	than the Chinese state propaganda usually is?
	Is it who they hired?
	Is it the metier?
	Is it the medium?
	Have you identified why this one is so good and so pernicious?
	Well, I think the best way to answer that question is comparing the different forms of the application that they have in China and the United States.
	So there's the same TikTok app that's available in China.
	But if you look at what they censor on there, there is absolutely none of this transgender content, none of the crazy abortion stuff, none of the far left, radical, subversive ideologies that really threaten the values that we cherish in this country, the entire social order.
	There's none of that.
	It's basically, as you're saying, this more sort of In your face, almost laughable funny Chinese Communist Party propaganda.
	Whereas the censors on American TikTok sort of seem to just have their hands off the censor button on anything unless it's disputing the election results.
	Seems to go.
	So I think within that, you can sort of tease out, which again, I think is a central thesis, at least of my worldview, and yours too.
	And then the Chinese Communist Party admits to it, if you read any of their work, whether it's unrestricted warfare, unconventional warfare.
	But it's really about sort of weaponizing these social issues, because believe me, from China's point of view, As they're plowing tens of billions of dollars into making sure that their students are learning math and learning all these STEM subjects, there is no better way to make sure that going forward,
	the American workforce cannot compete with the Chinese Communist Party than making the American workforce cannot compete with the Chinese Communist Party than making sure that all of our high school graduates are addicted to a social media application and more concerned with what gender is on their driver's license of the 97 available options than what grades they're And of course, I think the best parallel, you know, when the cultural revolution started in China, they got rid of all the testing requirements for people wanting to get admission into school.
	And you see that going on here now in the United States, right?
	You no longer have to take the LSAT to get into law school.
	They just announced that.
	So my point in saying all that, is that this is a broader campaign in the sense that TikTok, I think, is sort of an arrow, the tip of the spear, one of the arrows in the quiver that the Chinese Communist Party is using to undermine the social fabric.
	But it's not the only one.
	And frankly, the Chinese Communist Party has great allies in this quest right here on shore in the United States, right off, Obviously, the Chinese Communist Party doesn't necessarily need to drum up some of this radical gender ideology stuff, this radical transgenderism.
	It's already here, but they've just made the application, as you said, in a way that delivers a dopamine hit that is so profound and so intense You know, I mean, they track your biometric identity.
	They track your facial expressions to show you videos that you are more likely to react to positively, to get you to... it's, as someone said... So people need to understand, you know, your children's eye movement and facial expression is being tracked by an app that is run by the Communist Party of China.
	You need to internalize this.
	Maybe it's too hard to answer this question, but my curiosity is, why are they so much better not just at filtering stuff, but at understanding what is the most depraved and degraded when it comes to our version?
	Are they hiring?
	Is it like Twitter before Musk?
	Are they hiring white, woke leftists to run TikTok?
	Or is it that the Chinese officials running the US version are more sophisticated than the propagandists back in Beijing?
	Is there a personnel difference?
	Well, it's interesting you bring up personnel at TikTok, because I think the answer to your question is that they're doing both.
	TikTok has been reported, and it is confirmed, that in their hiring processes, they grant preferential treatment to Chinese Communist Party members, because a lot of the operations that TikTok runs are based out of ByteDance, which is their Beijing-based headquarters.
	So you can read, I believe I've done the reporting on it, but a lot of the high-level executives at TikTok are actually not just members of the Chinese Communist Party, but in some cases, former Chinese Communist Party diplomats, former Chinese Communist Party officials.
	So there definitely is, in terms of the concept that personnel is policy, the Chinese Communist Party is very heavily represented, therefore they can implement this sort of unrestricted warfare tactic that we're talking about.
	But in terms of the American side of things, I mean, it would be my best guess that there are obviously far-left employees there.
	But I think in terms of the content moderation side of things, which I just actually had two stories on War Room talking about this, they seem to be plucking people from democratic politics, and specifically
	The Democratic Party, like I was saying before, the person who, according to their LinkedIn and their position summary, that's running this sort of censorship operation on quote-unquote misinformation, but particularly election content, is an alum of the Biden campaign in 2020.
	Believe it or not, Kamala Harris's former tech advisor for when she was an AG in California, He is actually now working with TikTok.
	He's an employee leading their trust and safety team, again, working on misinformation.
	So it's just an interesting kind of overlap and revolving door and collusion between the DNC, CCP.
	It's foreign collusion at its finest.
	Working on misinformation.
	Not in the way they say they're working on it.
	Working on it in the other way.
	It's been very remiss of me.
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	All right, last couple of minutes we've got left with Natalie.
	She's got a new job.
	She's like a mucky muck.
	She's like, Super high.
	I have to look up at her because she's now an editor of the War Room.
	No longer just a Miss China infiltration at National Pulse.
	Natalie, you are now at the tip of the spear for what Steve calls the Hobbits!
	The people of the Shire, the Maga Shire.
	Give us a sense.
	You've been there now for exactly a month.
	What's the spirit like in Hobbit land when it comes to America First?
	Are people depressed like they were two years ago?
	I don't know if Steve takes callers, but I'm sure you're fielding texts and DMs all the time.
	You are at the perfect place to measure the mood of the America First nation.
	Give us some intel, Natalie.
	Sure.
	Well, Steve doesn't take callers, but I've been pushing him to do that because I love the Vox Populi segments that we used to do.
	But I really think, and I'm not someone who peddles false hope, I think after Trump announced I really think that 2016 energy, whether it's because Musk bought Twitter and all the voices that you used to see and all the great memes and posts that they would have are now sort of flooding the platform again.
	But I think that the hope is there again.
	And I know that the midterms didn't necessarily pan out how we had hoped.
	And I think that people—it hurt, because I think people were looking to those elections to sort of get the—I don't want to say vengeance, because that's a harsh word, but I think really retaliation for just the horrors that the Democratic Party has put Americans through, whether it's but I think really retaliation for just the horrors that the Democratic Party has put Americans through, whether it's
	So, yeah, it's unfortunate that we didn't get that chance, although I will say, I think the stuff that you're seeing right now, the fact that amnesty isn't going to happen, MTG, all the congressional inquiries into Hunter Biden are happening, that is great to be seeing.
	But I think people see Yeah.
	I still have hope in Trump in that he is really, I think, the only candidate that we've ever seen go up against the billionaires, the donor class, which, of course, are coming out in full force against him, backed by Chinese money.
	As you know, I will always get to the bottom, too.
	But bottom of, rather.
	But I think the 2016 energy is back.
	And I'm glad because politics was getting kind of depressing.
	So I'm glad we have it.
	Well, it's fun again, because, you know, President Trump is back.
	You know, he is back again, even on Twitter.
	She doesn't sell false hope, and she knows how to use the word ossified in an interview.
	Follow her right now, Natalie G. Winters.
	She's the co-host of Steve Bannon's War Room, also the executive editor.
	It is Natalie G. Winters.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First one-on-one.

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