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Nov. 15, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka
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Jim Hanson LIVE: How we win in 2024.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
Yeah.
Hey folks, I could not be happier to be sitting in Dr. G's chair, because the world is blowing up, everything sucks, and we're all gonna die!
Not.
And that's what we're here to talk about.
Things suck.
Let's not even pretend.
If things sucked anymore, we would be a turbo Dyson vacuum, not the United States of America.
So we got a lot to deal with.
All right.
We got all of the badness of the election.
We got the fact that the idiots in charge of the Republican Party are all going to keep their jobs because they did such a crap-tastic job of losing.
So we got so much badness and so much horrific stuff to deal with.
Fortunately, I'm going to have some tremendous help.
We got Kash Patel, we got Kurt Schlichter, we got Will Chamberlain, and we have Julie Kelly.
All right, so that's a pretty all-star team.
And I think that we will be able to deal with it.
All right.
Remember, we're the United States.
We're not going down.
We're the good guys of the United States, too.
The left is not their United States-ish.
You know what I mean?
They're U.S.
citizens and things like that.
They don't love the country the way they need to.
They're trying to destroy it and remake it as a socialist craphole.
And we're not going to let them do that.
All right.
And that's a major thing.
It's a generational war.
It's difficult.
And it's going to be probably the challenge of all of our lives.
So before we get into that, because that's going to be some depressing stuff, and I'm going to have to call some people names more than I already have, and we're going to just make everybody angry and unhappy with, at the end, I hope, the opportunity that it could all get better.
But I want to talk about what we're selling.
What are we actually as the right?
What is our situation?
What do we have that the other side doesn't?
And I think that the simple answer is we have the founding principles.
We believe in this country.
We believe in liberty, personal responsibility, security and prosperity.
They believe in status control and a woke dogma that runs your life.
All right, but what are we actually pushing?
What's our agenda?
Are we Republicans?
Are we conservatives?
Are we MAGA?
Are we America First?
Are we all of those things?
But what is that?
And I took it upon myself, because I did not have a good answer when I was telling people that, to kind of culturally appropriate one of our own terms.
All right, and a term that has been used by our side, by some of the people I like on our team, some of the people who I respect, some of the people who I think are doing things right, is to call ourselves based.
And based is a mentality.
Based is a combination of lifestyle, mind, and body.
All in a positive way.
And I think right now we have so many negative things going on that if we come at all of those from a purely negative perspective, we're going to turn people off.
And we're also going to hurt ourselves.
You need to stay healthy.
You need to stay strong.
This is a long war.
So I decided to write a short introduction to what BASED actually is.
And you see it up on the screen now, but I wrote a book called Get BASED.
It's now out on Amazon.
I gave Seb the first copy of it last week.
And I want to talk a little bit about how in the midst of this horrific fight we're fighting, We can become stronger and we can become better at what we do and we can actually through that attract more people to our cause.
So I the first thing I want to say is based is not something that I own or anyone who uses the word owns or anyone can own.
That's kind of the beauty of it.
It means you as a person have taken it upon yourself to live well.
To use your mind to learn more, to use your body to get stronger, to eat things that make you stronger and healthier, and also to live a life that is fulfilling and gives you joy and makes you a positive person even in a negative, craptastic situation like we find ourselves in.
So the book explains kind of my journey in a very difficult, my life's been a tremendously exciting and dangerous and also horrifyingly bad collection of events.
And to get through all that right now and be able to fight what we need to fight, to fight the people who are trying to destroy the greatest country ever constituted on this planet, requires strength and a positive mindset.
So the book explains some of the things I do to maintain that.
And it also explains that if you want that, if you want that inner strength and physical strength, if you want your mind stronger, if you want, you know, the kind of life that that gives you joy, that gives you fulfillment, that feels like you're making a difference, that keeps your family secure and prosperous, all of those things.
These are some tips.
on how to live that way.
And I think we all need to do it, but we all need to do it in a way that works for us.
And that means you.
So it's not one of those things.
I say in the book, I'm not your mom, I'm not your dad, I'm not your brother, I'm not your boss.
I'm not that Navy SEAL who's yelling at people at the crack of dawn to do more flutter kicks.
I'm none of those people because you're the one who can get yourself based.
And I think the book's designed to get you in a mindset where that becomes an easier thing to do.
And then you pick what you can do.
You pick the things that work for you.
You can't always eat right, so don't try to.
But eat better.
Right?
You can't work out every day and become a gym rat and do all those things.
Most of us can't.
But you can do something.
So if you're stuck in your chair and you're watching TV, get up and stretch.
Do a few push-ups.
Do a few sit-ups.
Just do more and make yourself stronger.
Learn something.
You know, take a read a book.
Okay?
It's not that complicated.
Mine's short.
So you can get on to books about things you also need to know about.
Learn a new skill.
You know, learn how to wire an electrical socket.
So if you need to do that, you can do it.
Learn how to take care of your yard yourself.
You know, learn how to trim your trees, whatever it is.
I don't care what it is.
Find something that makes your mind work in a new way so it doesn't atrophy.
Because I'll tell you what, if you're doom scrolling through Twitter all day and just staying mad, which is fair, and I'm not going to lie, I do it too.
You gotta have something to get your mind, body, and life out of that rut.
And if based is what it is and it can work for you, make it what works for you.
And that to me, that's the thing.
That's why I love it because it's not, it's not some.
rigorous thing that says, oh, you must get up at five o'clock in the morning because Jocko Willink the Seal posts a picture of his watch every day at 430 when I'm just getting to bed.
You know, that's the only reason I know he does it.
I don't get up that early.
I stay up late because that's what works for me.
Find what works for you and get strong because we need you strongly.
We need you in that shield wall.
We have the fight of our lives ahead of us and I can't afford to have any of our team not up to the task.
So don't feel like not doing everything you possibly can is a failure.
It's not.
As long as you do one more thing better, Then you're in the game.
And that's part of it.
So do Doomscroll.
Do get angry.
Stay angry.
Stay frosty.
Do all the things that you have to do to get through this, but do it in a way that you can become a positive warrior.
You don't have to be the happy warrior.
You can still be mad.
Anyone who has been in my Twitter feed knows I am a very Testy would be the polite term for it person on Twitter.
All right, because they earned it.
They started this crap I'm just responding to what they've done but if you're going to do that if you're going to be a quality member of the team in the fight and You gotta make sure that you don't let it get to you.
Don't let it make you crazy.
Don't let it ruin your life.
Because part of the game is living in America is the reward.
And if you're not enjoying that, you're screwing yourself.
Let's screw them instead.
This is Jim Hansen.
We are going to join in the War Pigs battle.
And we're gonna take the other side down.
We'll be back after the break with some more America First Radio.
Yeah, now that my self-help session's over.
Are we all feeling it?
How does that make you feel, Jim?
Oh, it makes me feel great.
You know, I got unicorns farting Skittles in my yard right now because of this.
Do you want the phones open yet?
Um, we got like three guest segments in a row, right?
I think we got Passion and...
I think I'm going to do one with Will, but we'll see.
Remind me to announce it in his segment and then let's talk to the people, but I don't want to interrupt guests.
Do you know Cash?
I don't.
All right.
Just let him.
I told his booker that afterwards that you were guest hosting, but she hasn't responded to that.
So just introduce yourself to him.
Sure thing.
Because I don't know if she got that message to him.
Over 1,200 watching on Rumble right now.
How's it going, guys?
Right on.
Yeah, do we open the Rumble poll, Jim?
Yeah, let's do that.
All right, Rumble, you know your job.
Since I didn't wear camouflage, I wore banker's camouflage.
How about that?
This is my banker suit.
Anyhow, let's get some craziness.
What do you want to talk about in the 5 o'clock hour?
I will do any of it.
If it ends up being Trump versus DeSantis, so be it.
I'll go there, and we'll all do it.
I want a lively rowdy, so whatever you guys think you can bring to the table, bring it, and let's get a good topic for the 5 a.m.
freestyle rant.
Go ahead and put your suggestions in the chat, folks.
I'll record them and we'll put it again in the second hour as a Twitter poll on Seb's account.
Can I vote for more jokes making fun of Jocko?
430 and a more!
Shut up!
Go to bed!
for more jokes making fun of Jocko.
That caught me off guard.
That was great.
4.30 and a more.
Shut up.
Go to bed.
Every day?
I mean, what is it?
That's stupid that he posts it every day.
That motivational video of his where he's like, oh, you can't pay your mortgage?
Good.
Oh, your wife left you?
Good.
Like, you know, bad things make your life better, supposedly.
He's just so weird, dude.
There's some people like that who I just think, um, lighten up, Francis, you know?
He's the Republican version of John Fetterman.
Ooh.
Wow.
Oh my god.
You better watch your ass, man.
I don't know how many guns you got.
He's uploading ammo at 4.30 in the morning.
Convincing Joe Rogan that guns are a good idea.
Did he do that?
They say that, like, Rogan kind of flips his opinion in the wind.
A friend of mine who watches Rogan says, oh yeah, when he has Jocko Willink on, he loves guns, but when he has Bernie on, he hates guns.
So it's like, yeah, that's just kind of... He goes, he bow hunts.
You know?
I mean, if you bow hunt, how can you be against guns?
A bow's just a really crappy gun.
You know?
With less gunpowder.
Yeah, it's a primitive gun.
Alright, we have Cash on the line, and the mics are on.
Cash, how you doing?
It's Jim Hanson.
How are you?
I'm well.
You know, I'm just going from the decor.
Do you happen to be in Florida?
I heard there's some fun stuff going on.
I will see in a couple hours, I guess.
Yeah, I have a feeling.
It's going to be festive, is the motif we're looking for, right?
Yeah, that's all I don't know.
Right on.
Well, good.
Well, I appreciate you coming on, man.
Obviously, we've got all the games that are being played in the political, and I just want to get your ideas.
The theme is, how are we going to win in 2024?
I have a feeling you have some thoughts on that.
Let's do it.
All right.
All right, 20 seconds.
Welcome back to America.
first with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, again we are now going to get out of the happy happy shiny feel good thing I was doing last segment because we got to get down to how we're gonna win in 2024 and we got somebody I'm pretty sure has some quality thoughts on that.
Mr. Kash Patel, welcome to the show!
Hey Jim, thanks so much for having me.
Great to be with you.
Obviously, everything's crazy.
Nothing works.
You know, the entire Republican machine is broken and we're never going to win an election again, right?
Is that what I've been led to believe?
That's what you've been led to believe by the mainstream media, because that's what they want you to believe is us to accept an unyielding defeat.
Except we are the party of Ulysses X Grant.
We accept unconditional surrender.
We do not surrender.
And what the rhinos want you to do is accept defeat so they can rise to power, the Paul Ryan's, Liz Cheney's, McConnell's of the world.
But what we need to do is learn an absolute lesson from our setbacks on Tuesday night.
And that is, look, if we couldn't win in places like Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia, we can't win the House, well, and the Senate, in those places, we can't win the presidential election.
But I'm not saying we can't win there.
I'm saying our current operations don't allow us to win there, because the Democrats are playing the mail-in ballot game, and the Democrats are playing better at getting the independent votes early to break their way.
We need to start playing in that game and under those rules because as much as we don't like those rules, they are the rules and they won't change unless we elect a Republican electorate in those states to fix it.
And we didn't do that this time.
So we got to go big on the ground game that is there for us to go big on.
I think it's a great idea.
I understand why people were hesitant, and I was too.
But I voted early last time.
And I think if we do that, we're at least playing the game by the rules that exist.
Now, the other thing that concerns me is Kevin McCarthy just got the nod, and he's likely to be Speaker then because of that from the Republican caucus.
I don't think anybody's knocking Mitch McConnell off, and Ronna McDaniel's looking pretty good as GOP head.
I don't understand how we can expect a different outcome if we keep having the same crew running things.
Do you think they can learn from their mistakes and actually pull us out of this?
Well, I think let me take out Kevin McCarthy away from the other two.
So if Kevin, who I know personally, has I think the ability to listen to the likes of the Freedom Caucus who are we're going to mount a fight against him for speaker.
Now, each side knows that neither side has enough to get to 218 without the other.
So what happens is hopefully a jockeying, a horse trading to say, look, we want powerful leaders in the chairman and chairwomen positions on judiciary, on intel, on foreign affairs, on oversight.
And some of those have to be the Freedom Caucus guys who are willing to go out there and hammer for accountability and do these investigations like Devin and I did when we ran Russiagate and issue subpoenas relentlessly, just like this January 6th committee has done.
Haul people in before and make them testify under oath and give us volumes of government documents to expose the corruption, be it DOJ and FBI, be it Fauci, be it the border or what have you.
These is a horse trading that I think is going on With the Kevin McCarthy's of the world.
Now Mitch McConnell I think is a different story because look you see Josh Hawley and company saying they're demanding a change in Senate leadership.
That hasn't happened before, and I'm not sure how it's gonna shake out out there.
And lastly, with the Republican Party, look, I know the least on how the RNC sort of works and is demonstrated.
I've also seen that Lee Zeldin might make a run for the RNC chair.
Look, what was in place did not work.
So if these guys and gals aren't willing to accept the rules that are on the board and put in the mail-in ballot game and put in the groundwork to win over the independents, Then yeah, they all need to be removed if that's the case.
But some of these people, maybe they have learned.
I don't know.
I haven't had personal conversations with them.
I also don't have High expectations.
Most of these people want to remain in power just for that fact.
They think those seats exist to serve themselves.
And I wish we could teach them a lesson we haven't managed to yet.
OK, now looking at the House and Kevin McCarthy, I think that's a fair statement you made, that he understands what time it is in his caucus in the House.
We've got, essentially, we've got, like you said, subpoenas and investigations and those kind of things.
And potentially he should be open to impeaching someone like Mayorkas.
It's a waste of time to impeach Biden.
We should leave him there.
But what about the power of the purse?
Has Kevin McCarthy got the backbone to shut down the government if that's what it takes?
Well, I think that's the extreme measure, and hopefully he does.
But here's the incremental measure, and we did it during Russiagate, right?
When we issued subpoenas to get the DOJ and FBI to cooperate and provide us documents, they stonewalled us.
They being Rod Rosenstein and Chris Wray, who still is head of the FBI.
What did we do?
We did this maneuver, which is only possible in the budgeting process of Congress.
It's called fencing.
And you literally put up a proverbial fence around pockets of money from the FBI and DOJ, because Congress has that authority.
So you don't have to seize the government from operating.
But the second we took their money, which we have to remind our audience is American taxpayer money, and we said, we're taking X millions and we're putting it on hold until you turn over the documents.
You know what I got the next morning?
Thousands of documents, Bruce Ohr's 302s, the corruption at that FISA court, the FISA applications themselves, the exposure of Christopher Steele and how he was a fraudulent So Paul Ryan only let us do this once as speaker.
What I hope Kevin McCarthy lets the chairs do unilaterally without going to him and begging for it is use this maneuver every single day.
And I promise you these agencies will react, because it's the only thing they react to is when you take their money.
Now, isn't there also a way in the budget process to go ahead and put in language that says you may not spend money to do particular things, you know, such as spying on Americans whose political views you dislike and using state power as essentially a Stasi to shut down dissent?
Is that another thing that we're going to have to keep the pressure on them to do and say, preemptively, let's just shut down some of their operations that they've been using to attack and abuse our team?
Yeah, you know, language like that is always helpful.
But when we don't have both chambers, it's going to be tough to get language like that passed.
And having worked in the House in one of the most important congressional investigations in US history, I think the money aspect is more powerful than the language.
Because when we start talking language, we start talking politics.
And that's what they want.
They want a headline.
They want a bill named X so they can go out and say, we passed the America Must Succeed bill.
And then if you look in the language, it doesn't actually do anything.
The only thing these government gangsters respond to is when you take their pocketbooks.
Because what they're good at is spending other people's billions, our taxpayer money.
And they work for us.
And that money is earmarked to execute the job that we put them in place for.
And if they're not going to do it, then we take it and we hold it until they do their job.
And when we expose their corruption, we build these cases.
So when we impeach a Mayorkas and we impeach people at DOJ and FBI, the American public has the information from the government agencies themselves, their own documents to say these leaders messed up so bad they earned The impeachment that was a must from the House of Representatives.
And that's how we got to approach it.
Bring the pain.
I like it.
We've got Republican or excuse me, Democrat governors in some very important states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania now.
We need a couple of those.
Can we get the kind of votes we need without any help from inside the state?
You know, look, you have to also look at like places like Wisconsin just reelected Ron Johnson, one of the best senators out there.
And hopefully Georgia, we get Herschel Walker across the finish line.
So that shows you there's a split in the demographic between the gubernatorial races and the senatorial races.
And I think the people that won last Tuesday, be it the governors or the senators, They won because they went out and battled for the independence.
They won because they had the audacity to go out there and talk about the facts surrounding abortion.
Remember, single women broke 70-30 for the Democrats.
That is a massive contingent of the voting bloc.
And it's not just because it was abortion and won X or Y, it's we completely failed the message on Hobbes.
And the Hobbes ruling is simple.
States have the authority to decide, as they should, on abortion.
We need to message better.
Well, I think that's something we're going to find out if we've got the skills to do, but I hope you're part of the game.
I hope tonight goes well.
I heard there's an announcement.
Cash Patel, see him at fightwithcash.com.
This is Jim Hanson.
We'll be back with more America First Radio.
We'll be back with more America First Radio.
I think we might have to talk about World War 3.
We gotta.
Yeah, that's gonna be... Foreign policy is definitely gonna be... If there is any like serious upheaval in 23, it'll come more from foreign policy, I think, than anything else.
Well, or the economy crashes.
I could be wrong, and it doesn't recover, because, I mean, it's not like anybody's doing anything right.
The problem is, it all comes down to energy, and obviously their disastrous energy policies are not going to do wonders for gas prices, and that is the most fundamental commodity, I think, or not even really a commodity.
The reason I don't is, that's like you were saying, energy, and the other thing is, all the spending they pass, so much of it is still next year and the year after.
You know those bills that they've done?
I bought silver, and I'm burying it in the backyard.
That's my investment.
You mean you don't trust William Devane?
What does he sell?
He's always doing those gold commercials on Fox.
And Greg Gutfeld will make jokes about it on The Five.
He's like, the only person I trust is William Devane.
Here's the thing, because gold's so expensive and silver's historically cheap right now, you can buy a ton of silver.
I bought 12 pounds of silver for like three or four grand.
And that's just fun because I got like kilo bricks of it and like a hundred, a bag of a hundred coins.
You know what I mean?
What's it at now, silver?
18 to 21, somewhere in there.
You know, somewhere in that range.
And that's, you know, versus... I don't even know what gold is because I'm not gonna... I bought a few gold coins last year.
You know, just because I want my zombie bug-out kit.
You know, 20,000 rounds of ammo, all the guns, some unset diamonds, a little bit of gold and silver.
I'm good to go.
Yeah.
I wish that wasn't a reality we have to deal with.
What's the food company that's... Oh, My Patriot Supply.
Yeah, I need to talk to them, too.
I need some chow.
He has his own deal.
Yeah, preparewithgorka.com, folks.
In case you didn't know, preparewithgorka.com.
Hey, I don't have any reads.
Do I not have reads?
Alex, no?
Nope.
Alex has no reads.
It was the same yesterday.
I'll sell more books, then.
By all means.
I'm pretty sure you have another book as well you can mention if you want.
I have books.
It's my third one.
I got two more done, too.
Wait, so it was Civil War... I had Myth of White Fragility.
That's right.
And then winning the Second Civil War without firing a shot.
Although we may have to fire shots now, you never know.
Are you listening, Media Matters?
Little Zachy-poo!
Again, that's one thing I can't help but think about is what would a hypothetical Second Civil War in America look like?
Would it be like The Troubles?
Would it be like just mass 2020 on steroids?
Yeah, you know, it would be interesting because our team just doesn't do that.
You know, I mean, we can't get away with rioting in the streets because they'll actually crack down on us.
And then does that go... My scenario, which is in winning the Second Civil War, is if it ever breaks out, it'll be a National Guard base.
You know, you have enough people who center around a National Guard base that has armored vehicles, tanks, maybe some attack helicopters.
And then you've actually got a place, you've got an Alamo.
You know, and that's all you've got at that point is an Alamo.
But at least then you're dealing with a situation, you know, because the other option is if you do the insurgent guerrilla warfare.
It's stunning how poorly, you know, we're able to, to cover the United States.
So, yeah.
20 seconds.
All right.
All right.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Yes it is, and okay, I liked hearing from Cash.
He's a smart guy, he's got good ideas, and to the extent people like him are pushing the buttons in the machine, I think the machine will give us smarter outputs.
I still think it's very problematic that we have the same people who have sucked like those proverbial turbo dysons, and they're still in power.
And I You know, what's the best predictor of future performance is past, and I'm not that hopeful, but let's put the screws to them.
And it's a new world, and everything's crazy, so they might actually change.
Speaking of crazy, I'm worried about World War III, and we've got to talk about it.
Looks like a Russian missile landed in Poland.
And the problem with that, I like Poland, everything, you know, Poland's a great ally, they're good people, they're a NATO ally.
And the problem is, if this missile landed in NATO and killed people in Poland, we are duty-bound by Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty to come to Poland's aid.
And I think the Biden administration and the rest of these idiots have been sleepwalking us into World War Three.
And if this is the Archduke Franz Ferdinand of World War One translated to now, that would be the most horrific thing that could possibly happen right now.
We have no reason for the United States to be involved in any kind of conflict with Russia.
It's not a smart move.
There's no upside.
Putin's already shown that his military was a farce.
You know, they couldn't even roll tanks to Kiev and take that place.
They had to back off.
And now they're back where on February 26th in Tampa at CPAC, I told Seb we were most likely to end up, which is with Russia keeping the crescent of the Donbass down to Crimea and the rest of it, you know, reverting as it should be to Ukraine.
Even though that means the Ukrainians lose territory, it's a lot of disputed territory, it's a lot of Russian speakers, and it's not something that the U.S.
should be willing to go to war over.
And the problem is, if this missile triggers that, it's because we didn't take that option back in February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, or October.
We screwed up.
We just kept sending money and munitions to Zelensky and his pals.
They're scraping off it.
You know, apparently they're using it through this cryptocurrency idiot to go ahead and fund the Democrats.
And all of this has been going on because we're involved in a war we didn't need to be.
Putin's army is destroyed.
He is no longer a threat to anyone in any meaningful way in Europe.
He hasn't got any vehicles, any logistical capabilities, any offensive capability to even barely hold the territory he's taken, let alone roll anywhere else as they like to say, oh, what if he goes into Poland?
What if he goes into, you know, the rest of Europe?
He can't.
So let's end this.
It's time.
And I think one thing you'll notice is when this whole crypto thing about, you know, tax dollars going to Ukraine, Ukraine buying crypto from this idiot Klepto, whatever his name is, the guy with the man boobs, and all of a sudden the money's going from him to the Democrats.
Once that came out, all of a sudden Zelensky's like, hey, maybe we should negotiate.
So I think there's some dirt there.
I think there's some things, but that's not the worst of it.
We don't need World War Three in Europe.
We don't need us to respond.
I don't think the Russians shot missiles into Poland to try and provoke a NATO response because that would be suicidal.
All right.
They gain nothing from that.
If it happened, it was most likely a mistake.
If it was even either a mistake or just stupid, we have to be smarter than that.
And I don't have a lot of faith in the Biden administration.
Joe is a joke.
I was on Fox and Friends well before I was up this morning, and I pointed out how badly he did talking with Xi and also how he needs to tell Zelensky, it's time to negotiate.
The Ukraine war is over.
You lost that crescent.
Russia's going to keep it.
And that keeps the rest of the world out of World War III.
And it also stops opening up the opportunity, which was also part of that G20 thing, for the Chinese to go ahead and invade Taiwan, because we're busy with a war these idiots are starting that we didn't need.
So I wish I had faith in the people operating our foreign policy and national security right now.
I don't.
But we need to hope that they manage to go ahead and figure out that it's probably not a good, it's never a good time for World War Three.
This would be an exceptionally bad one for a bad reason.
And if they try to do it, we need to hope that then the new Republican Congress will jerk a knot in their tail.
Although we got a couple months before they get seated.
So on that really optimistic note that we're all going to die, like I said, we're going to come back after the break, though, and we're going to have our buddy Will Chamberlain on, and we're going to talk with him about how we can win in 2024, because he's got some good ideas.
This is Jim Hanson.
We'll be back after the break.
Right on.
All right.
We have a few suggestions from Rumble already.
All right.
What do they got?
We got at least one fun one.
Best place for a cheeseburger.
Ooh.
I'm sure fellow Californians of mine would have their decision already in mind, but I disagree firmly.
Is Kerry Lakes' loss a rejection of Trump?
Best Trump VP pick?
Is McCarthy the best choice?
Well, that's easy.
That's like two seconds.
No.
Here's a fun one.
Is DeSantis a Trojan horse?
No.
I think he's a Navy Reserve Officer and Governor of Florida.
Alright.
Is DJT slash DeSantis just for show?
And another question, was Arizona stolen?
Wow.
Alright.
Well, we got the chat is lively.
Hey, Will, can you hear me, buddy?
Oh, Alex, Skype.
There we go.
One second.
Who is calling us?
I hear you.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
Yeah, I can hear you.
Can you?
Yeah, I think we're good to go.
Well, the mics on or off, Jim?
Oh, let's leave them on.
All righty.
So we've got him on Skype.
Yes, picture looks good.
You look beautiful, man.
Two and a half minutes.
Oh, wow.
So what have we done so far?
We got World War III going on pretty quick.
We got Trump's announcing tonight, but I kind of want to gingerly Walk through what we should be thinking about, you know, and I think it's, it's in the vein of asking questions, you know, and you can be as bold as you want.
I'm, I'm going to be on the fence for the time being as to what I think should happen for, uh, for 2024.
But I think even Seb has come to the point where he said, you know, we need a good primary process.
And I think we do.
Yeah.
You know, I think all ideas need to be on the table.
And then whoever.
Thank you.
All right.
There we go.
Mike's back on.
That was the NSA attempting to hijack our conversation like they do.
Which they have done before.
Believe me, chat.
All right.
Again, this is a D segment, so this is eight minutes, Alex.
This segment.
Because no read.
Eight minutes.
Yes.
All right.
All right.
One minute to air time.
So did you hear McCarthy got the nod?
Yeah, McCarthy got the nod, and Emmer won WIP 2 over Jim Banks, which is really too bad.
Emmer won?
Yep.
Oh, come on.
God, is there no accountability?
None.
Nope.
None.
For God's sake.
I don't even... I just... I... I'm... Alright, I'm gonna be depressed for like 30 seconds.
Then I'll get mad again.
Right.
It's going to take, dude.
I'm telling you, my shadow GOP, they put the exact same team, or worse, in place.
And if that's what we're going to have, then we have to have our own.
So, screw them.
Alright.
They want to fight, they got it.
Thank you.
It's Jim Hansen.
Man, I'm really digging the dark wave bumper music.
That gets me pumped, takes me back to my glory days of the 80s.
But hey, we have the pleasure right now of being joined by Will Chamberlain, who is one of the leaders of the Internet Accountability Project, which I love because we usually talk free speech and censorship and all that.
But Will, I want to do politics because we need to fix something.
And I think the Republican Party has really taken The ass whipping they just got to heart because they're putting all of the exact same people who did such an atrocious job and lost pretty much everything except the house, they squeaked that, and they're putting them all back into their positions.
So McCarthy's in and Emmer's in as whip, that tool.
Is that really a sign that these guys are going to go ahead and give us a whole new game plan?
I don't know that they're going to give us a whole new game plan.
I don't honestly, you know, the McCarthy thing, I don't know that there's like a good person waiting to effectively manage the entire house conference, which is sort of, you know, I initially, when the results came out, I was like McCarthy needs to go because of, you know, if this were a corporation and, and these were the results that the company had offered.
At the end of the quarter, you would have fired the C-suite, so then the question is, okay, what do we do with these people?
But we need somebody who's already got a lot of good plans in place for what to do with a House majority, even a small House majority, and I think we were probably stuck with McCarthy no matter what.
The question of the whip is much more disappointing.
I think Tom Emmer did a really poor job running the NRCC, and I think that, you know, he can make whatever claims he wants to about how hard his team worked and whatever, but results speak for themselves.
They're not good.
We were expecting to pick up Way more seats than this, and given the political environment we really should have.
So, all right, if we're going to let these tools run our machine, what do we need them to do?
What is the one thing?
And let's just go ahead and assume everyone agrees we need to do ballot harvesting and early voting, all right?
That's a given, okay?
We have to do that, and the mechanisms for doing that are complicated, but you have to do it.
But what do we have to do?
Because there are a lot of people who didn't agree with us.
And we need issues and we need people to vote with us, not just count on the mechanisms of voting.
So how do we crack the Upper Midwest?
Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania?
So, I mean, there's obviously competing theories.
I'm hearing some theories out there that are like, well, the problem this time was that Trump wasn't on the ballot.
So therefore, we should have won those places.
Well, we didn't win them in 2020 either.
I am I'm kind of not, you know, full disclosure, I don't think Trump should run again in 2024.
I know he's about to announce today, but I don't think he's the right candidate.
His name recognition is 100 percent.
There's no growth in his support possible.
And, you know, we just saw what happened to Stacey Abrams and Beto O'Rourke, you know, two people who had lost previous elections or, you know, one or two previous elections and ran again, and they performed worse than they had previously.
I think, I don't think, I think Trump does not do well in a general election against any Democrat this time around.
I don't think that there's the raison d'etre for him, not to be all fancy in French, but is just not there.
There are better candidates.
I mean, I've been tweeting a lot.
I think we should go with a guy who won Florida by 20.
That seems really straightforward to me.
He seems pretty good.
Maybe we should go with that guy.
And the nice thing is, we do have a situation where we don't coronate people.
We have a primary process.
You know, everybody can throw their hats and we're going to have some people who are just basically too lazy to get real jobs like Pence and Pompeo and other people like that who just want to, you know, go ahead and ride a gravy train with zero chance of winning and, you know, work on their brand.
But honestly, it's DeSantis or Trump are the only two people who can win the nomination.
And I don't see how DeSantis can avoid going in, riding as high as he is, and knowing if he has to wait four plus years, how many bad things could happen in the interim.
He's never going to be riding this high a wave.
So now we've got DeSantis-Trump as the battle.
If DeSantis happens to win, what happens to the Trump faithful?
I mean, I think they'll ultimately come around.
My suspicion is we're already seeing polling coming out showing DeSantis with big leads in the early states.
There's polling coming out showing him like a 15 or 20 point lead in Iowa and New Hampshire.
I suspect that in the world where DeSantis wins convincingly and early and just makes it clear who's going to win the nomination, I don't think we have this long protracted battle that people are worried about.
I also think that you have to not just project from this moment where people are still very intensely attached to previous elections.
I think Republicans want to win at the end of the day.
I think the promise of Trump was winning, right?
That we would get tired of winning.
I don't feel tired of winning right now.
I think a lot of people probably feel similarly and actually want To see if we can't do, you know, and I'm also tired of excuses like, you know, underperformance everywhere, but Ron DeSantis wins Florida by 20, which has historically been a swing state.
Like, let's go with the guy who overperformed.
How about that?
No, and I think the other problem we have right now is Arizona's election was a debacle.
And Carrie Lake was Trump's candidate, and we'll never know how bad that was.
Of course there was cheating, because they're Democrats.
They cheat.
But we don't know if that was the reason.
And now they made it—look, they did everything they could to make it, let's break the voting machines on Election Day when Republicans vote, you know, and then let's take six months to count fewer ballots than, you know, Florida counted during lunch.
You know, they made it impossible.
Is that going to be a drag, you know, if that becomes a story, or can we get that out of the news?
Maybe, but I mean, we won six House seats in Arizona out of nine.
And the only House seats that the Democrats won were hard, you know, solid blue seats.
The treasurer in Arizona won by 10 points, the Republican treasurer incumbent.
Um, but we just, so people in Arizona split their tickets and you know, that's not a reason to just nominate some random establishment hack like Martha McSally ran twice and lost her two different Senate races in Arizona as well.
Um, but it is a reason to look for somebody who can kind of unify the different strands of the Republican party.
Uh, and so we don't lose any more elections that we shouldn't lose.
And that's, to me, that's, that's kind of obviously the guy down in Florida who, I know the establishment, I don't think the establishment likes him as much as people say, but they tolerate him.
And I think that our side, I mean, he's at the end of, at heart a populist, at heart a guy who's governed very much in a way that we would see as America first.
And he's just, he's just the right candidate and the guy who could actually, you know, break this cycle of losing in Arizona, in my view.
Well, let's find out, and that's what we do.
We hold elections, we hold primaries, we do it.
And Will Chamberlain, greatly appreciate your joining us.
Keep up the quality work trying to claw us a foothold in our information space.
We'll both try to get Elon on board with unscrewing Twitter because I have too much fun there for that to suck.
But yeah, again, let's have an election.
Let's listen.
President Trump will announce tonight.
He's in the game and we'll take it from there.
Will Chamberlain, Internet Accountability Project, thank you much.
Let's open up the phone lines.
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There he was.
Oh yeah, he's gone.
Alright, well it's out there.
Let's see how angry he made people.
The chat definitely has turned their verdict in.
Yeah, he needs to shut up.
I disagree.
I think he has to talk.
We need to hear that.
And that's just it.
I do think, Seb, at some point it would be great to have this conversation on the air at some point.
Like a long-form someone to make that argument.
The polls he's talking about, if they're the ones he shared on Twitter, those are garbage.
They're paid polls.
There's 316 people.
Oh come on, that's definitive.
And I mean, I don't see DeSantis winning Iowa by like, what did he say, 20 points?
I mean, Trump did really well there winning by like 9 points.
I don't see DeSantis improving there.
Look, a week after he crushed in Florida, of course he's going to poll well.
Yes, yes.
It's relative.
It's garbage.
But that's the way the game is played.
The game is played with garbage polls.
We don't have any good polls.
There's no such thing as a good poll.
Except for Trafalgar, and now already the mainstream media is doing their rounds laughing at Trafalgar.
They were wrong, they were wrong.
I don't think you can poll anymore, you know, and that's the funny thing.
I don't think it's possible.
And the question is, who figures out then what do you do?
You know, then you've got to actually have smart people and strategy, you know, and know what's going on.
And that's where I think some of the big AI stuff we want to do, evaluating states and voters and everything like that.
I don't care what they say or what you can get some people to say.
I want to know what they've been doing.
What are they saying in private?
And not really in private, but you know, in social media.
Well, they won't tell pollsters.
Yeah, no, but they'll hint at it in social media.
And so we're just going to harvest all the social media and ingest it and evaluate it and figure out where the people actually are in places, not what they've told pollsters.
I love the way Jeff kicks the shit out of callers.
He's like, no, what's your point?
Jesus Christ.
He's got a sixth sense for tracking BS callers.
Why are you wasting my time?
I know.
Well, you have to, because otherwise you end up putting idiots on and then Seb has to kill them.
He doesn't like that.
He doesn't like to be nice to callers anyway.
That was such a shock for me, because again, I spent years working for my congressman's office and on campaigns where they say, you have to be nice to people on the phone.
It doesn't matter if they yell at you, you're representing the congressman, you have to be nice.
Now here on the radio, it's like, yeah, you can say shit to Congress.
You are a moron!
It feels so liberating, yeah.
Yeah, well, I think more people need to hear how stupid they are.
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It's Jim Hanson.
Hey folks, we are riling up the crowd with Will talking about DeSantis as opposed to Trump being the best candidate.
And I think even Seb has weighed in saying we have a primary process, let's do it.
But I want to hear from Taylor in Arizona because Arizona is a thing right now.
So what do you got, Taylor?
Well, I keep hearing little tad bits of Ron DeSantis with possibly a joint checking account with Jeb Bush.
I mean, I don't know if this is all factual or just BS.
And I also hear where we don't know where his wife, her family, we don't know nothing about them.
I'm hearing some iffy stuff about her family being, uh, you know, rhinos and supporting all the rhinos.
I just feel like the media is trying to push us into picking between Trump and DeSantis.
In my opinion, Trump is the best president we've had in years, maybe ever.
And he has brought a lot of things to the light.
And we need to stick to the girl we brought to the dance here.
President Trump is doing it.
I don't know why we can't all get behind him and continue on here.
Well, I think that's a fair point.
I think the people attacking DeSantis right now, first of all, the media and the left and the never-Trumpers want a Trump-DeSantis fight to split MAGA World is their goal, and then slip an actual real rhino like Pence or Pompeo or somebody like that, who are decent people and good people, they're just not right for the time.
They're not the fighters we need right now.
So I think that's the reason that you're seeing a lot of those people push it.
I am near 100% certain that DeSantis is not a rhino.
And whatever the stuff people are throwing out there, actions speak louder than words.
He took on Disney.
He took on the queer complex.
He has been a solid fighter.
He kept his schools open.
He did everything right on COVID.
I don't think he's actually got any of those things, regardless of who supports him, because they all have different agendas.
I don't think they're going to be able to co-opt DeSantis.
However, you have a great point, because Trump delivered.
Life was good when Donald Trump was president.
Life was good for everybody in this country.
Even though it drove the left a little crazy, they were living well, right?
They were angry.
They were crazy.
They were delusional.
They were unhinged.
But they were living well.
That is not the case right now under Democrat rule.
So we're going to have a situation where Trump can very effectively stand there and say, do you want good times back?
You know, when I was in charge, life was good.
We had great things going on.
If you want that again, you got to deal with me.
And I think that's a strong case.
And DeSantis is definitely paddling uphill, if you do that.
You can paddle upstream, I guess, against that.
And that's fine.
Like we said, we have a primary process.
It makes all the candidates stronger.
And I think that's what we need.
We're going to go ahead and take a news break so everybody can catch up on World War III and the rest of the horrifyingly bad things going on in the world.
Then when we get back, We're gonna have my man, Colonel K, Kurt Schlichter will be here.
We might talk about the fact that I misidentified stakes at his house after the break.
Yeah, the mic's off for this one if he wants.
It's top of the hour break.
Thank you.
Mike's back on, Alex.
We have a minute, 15 seconds to live.
There we go.
Hello.
You're looking good.
You got your business clothes on.
It's always nice.
You're going to trial today, right?
Dude, I got my banker suit on.
I should have told you.
You didn't get the memo on the uniform.
You look like you're collecting on unofficial loans.
Yeah, you know, that's part of it.
I would make a decent thug.
Look, I always thought I would be a great criminal mastermind if I had decided to go that way.
Dude, one of the great things about any time you went on a mission, we would go in isolation for like 10 days, and we'd do the mission planning in the first four days, and then the next six days we just planned crimes.
I mean, all over the place, you know, it was just whatever.
What a waste of quality plans that was.
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Thank you.
I I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, I am back, and we're about to join into this little mess we've been making one of the greatest destructive and constructive forces on the political right.
Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, of which you need to buy if you don't already own it, the newest book, Inferno.
Which is awesome.
And I'm not just saying that because there's a reference in there to me and my man meat, i.e.
my dry-aged steaks.
And I have to cop to it, Kurt.
I was at your house for election day.
What should have been a victory party turned into a craptastic—we cried in each other's arms.
But I also misidentified your meat.
I called you out and said you were not serving me ribeyes, that they were New York strips, when instead they were actually capless ribeye, which I think is a crime.
But I need to copy that and I apologize to you for making you dig through your garbage to prove me wrong.
I did dig through the garbage to prove that you were incorrect.
That is the lengths I will go to prove that I am not wrong.
Just that stubborn.
I knew I would do it too, that I would dig through my filth like a raccoon.
That was part of the entertainment value of it.
But look, we lost.
We got our asses kicked, and I want to ask you If you could do one thing, and we're going to skip.
Everybody I have heard agrees we need to do early voting and ballot harvesting.
OK, good.
Let's do that.
That's not enough.
What do we need to do past that?
Oh, my gosh.
There are a wide range of things.
First thing I would sit down and do is take advantage of the time we have and do some deep thinking about this, because there is a lot of stuff.
Let's start with the big picture.
Voters.
We need to be more strategic.
Stop voting with your heart all the time and vote with your head some of the time.
Doesn't mean you always elected Mitt Romney, but sometime you have to decide, you know, I would like Joe Blow, but maybe Joe Smith might be more likely to get elected.
You've got to be strategic.
This this, you know, I think people misunderstand principles.
Here's my principle.
I win.
I win.
You lose.
Yes.
Yes.
That that is my principle.
I I love the people going, well, you know, Lisa Cohen, correct the election system.
Well, you have to take power to do that.
And that requires winning.
Or do you expect me to wave my Harry Potter wand?
Well, and part of it, you know, if you look at Arizona, we have to accept the fact that as bad as they did and tried to prove to everyone that they wanted to make it look as much like a stolen election as possible, in the end, the lower ballot candidates were winning big time and won as many votes as the Democrat who beat Carrie Lake.
So I don't know how that's going to turn out.
And I don't want to create a fight, but we need to accept the fact that our message is not getting through.
And we need to look at where that message worked and didn't and figure out who the correct messenger is.
Well, yes.
Look, I like Carrie Lake a lot.
I thought she was a tremendous talent, but she didn't get it done.
Okay, she didn't.
And I'm going to go ahead and say calling out, I can't stand the cult of McCain and his daughter is just ridiculous at this point.
But you call out McCain voters in Arizona, you're costing yourself votes.
You just can't do that.
I think, look, I'm always for hindsight because I believe hindsight is the best kind of sight.
And look, she clearly made some mistakes.
Um, what went wrong?
What went right?
We've got to rigorously figure it out.
Now you, you, you're a military guy like I am.
Uh, we used to do after action reviews and they were brutal and people would walk out of them bleeding.
Right.
But, but that's what you have to do.
And you have to have a thin skin.
What did Curie Lake do well?
What did she not do well?
Um, and we've got to figure it out.
Arizona is not, I mean, she came close.
Arizona and Nevada, too.
And look, I like Adam Laxalt.
And it's interesting, because if you look at what all the pundits say, well, Adam Laxalt is the perfect candidate, and Kerry Lake was flawed.
Well, they both got really close, but didn't quite do it.
Right.
So I'm not sure if the establishment's idea of who is a good candidate and who is a bad candidate is determinative.
Let's talk about the establishment.
Candidates, you know, you're at the end of a process and obviously I think we both agree a rigorous primary process for everybody's good.
But right now, we just got destroyed for all intents and purposes in a situation where we had every reason to prevail.
And the thing that the party did is now we're going to put the exact same people who ran that disaster in charge of the next election cycle.
Are we psychotic?
Well, my town hall column for Thursday details that somebody's head's got to roll.
And it might not be everybody who had a piece of it.
But then again, I think everybody in the Republican Party had a piece of this.
And let's start with voters.
Especially ones who didn't show up.
Let's start with pundits.
Look, I was expecting something different that happened.
I got it wrong.
I don't know how much effect that had, but the fact is I was looking at the evidence and I came to the wrong conclusion.
So did most other people, doesn't make me feel any better.
The leaders though, look, like again, I'm an army guy.
The commander's responsible for everything a unit does or doesn't do.
You either win or you lose.
Get it done.
Well, Carrick, there are obstacles and blah blah blah.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're in charge because you're the guy who gets over the obstacles.
Right?
That's why we have you.
If it was just going to be handed to you, all you'd have to do is, you know, pick it up.
That's not hard.
Being in charge is hard.
And we also have examples of places they just flat screwed up.
I mean, Mitch McConnell spending money in Alaska to save Lisa Murkowski so she could vote for him as leader and keep his losing butt in charge in the minority as opposed to the majority.
Rather than reinforcing Blake Masters and doing anything else with that.
That's malfeasance.
That's political malfeasance right there.
I have a feeling he did that to keep her on board, knowing it would be a very narrow win.
And that may be a decent argument.
He needs to make it, but he's so arrogant.
He hasn't bothered explaining why he does stuff.
And that doesn't help.
Now, if he got up and said, well, I want to make sure that if Lisa Murkowski was the one who won, she didn't go and caucus with the Democrats.
And I would think, oh, well, okay, maybe I agree, maybe I don't, but at least he took the time to tell me.
He doesn't feel like he has to.
And in fact, he doesn't have to.
Because there's no one else who wants his job, so he's going to keep it.
How can that be?
How can we have no one?
I mean, I understand the ossified nature of the swamp, but... I have an idea.
Who do you got?
Look, Kevin McCarthy is not going to be the one.
He's the guy who came closest to winning.
He is the guy, and frankly, no one else wants that thankless job right now.
Right.
So he's not going anywhere.
Rona McDaniel.
Let's get rid of her.
Okay.
Blew it in 2018.
Blew it in 2020.
Blew it in 2022.
What is it, four strikes you're out?
How many times does she have to not cut it before someone says, thank you!
Get out!
Well, and let's reward one of the winners, all right?
Lee Zeldin dominated in New York!
In New York!
I think Lee Zeldin's a good guy.
I think either one of the schlaps would be good.
I think, look, there are a lot of people with different skill sets who might do that job well.
And I think, look, we need fresh blood.
I mean, again, there's no explanation.
There's just going to be some sort of vote.
And then it'll announce, yes, we've got the same person who's lost three times trying to make it four in a row.
What did she learn?
One of the problems with our society is lack of accountability.
And yet we don't have accountability of our own people.
And I think the problem is they're not our people.
They are wholly owned by the donor class, and that's why someone like Ronna McDaniel can sit there is because she's siphoning the correct hoses off the people who are putting money in the tank.
You know, I think the donor class is going to get sick of not winning.
You'd think.
I'm sick of it.
I certainly would be.
And if you saw J.D.
Vance's article, I think it was in Wall Street Journal yesterday, small donations are way, way, way down.
Nah, because why would I spend my money if they're going to do stupid things with it like make sure they feather their own nests as opposed to win elections?
I want to see some victory.
I want to see a plan.
I want them to tell us what the plan is.
I feel like I'm the guy in Top Gun who's saying, I want some butts, and then Cruz and Goose come out and knock his coffee on him again.
I'm not that guy.
You're not that guy.
We need some actual butts.
We need to actually do a clean sweep.
All right, let's go after McDaniel, because I think you're right.
I think she is the least secure of those, because the two in Congress are going to keep their jobs.
Yeah, they're going to, but some has to happen to show people that there is a consequence for failure.
It's nothing personal, you're just not good enough.
And that's fine, because the goal is winning, and we didn't win.
Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, Inferno is the one you need.
Buy the whole set!
Send him a message, he'll sign them for you.
He is the man, and after this, we're going to be back, we're going to take a few more calls, because we need to hear what America thinks about this debacle.
We're doing America First Radio back after the break.
Back to and he's on the line.
Alright, thanks brother.
Hey, um, you coming to DC anytime soon?
Is there any reason you need to be here?
I'm coming for CPAC in March.
When is that?
Is it March?
Isn't it in Florida?
It's in DC.
Yeah, it's in D.C.
That's weird.
Oh, we're gonna throw a party.
I actually had to text Schlapp today because I can't find it online.
I was like, I've got trials, right?
You know, I'm actually a lawyer.
I was like, when do I, you know, what do I have to block out?
So I finally said, I can't find it online.
Matt, when the hell is it?
One through four March.
It's in D.C.
I was like.
All right, well, plan for the day before.
We'll throw a party.
Wednesday.
Yeah, whatever it is.
Yeah, OK.
Cool.
All right, brother.
You have a good one.
Build somebody $500 an hour.
$750.
$500?
For me.
$750.
What am I, a friggin' discount lawyer?
Ambulance chaser?
Yeah, that's fair enough.
Well, you're not wearing a tie.
You can't bill over $500.
I'm in LA.
I can get married in this.
You might want to talk to Arena about that.
Hey, I'm going out to have steaks with Drew tonight.
Aw, tell him that was so much fun.
We both loved him, man.
What a great guy.
It was a good time, wasn't it?
Yeah, he's a fun dude.
Except for the disaster.
Except for the disaster, but we still, that's the nice thing about us, man.
We're the kind of based people who survive shit like that and come out smiling.
I know, we just sit there.
You and I are like going, eh, well, things go to hell all the time.
I have a plan to fix this.
I'm going to make some very rich people pay for it and we'll take it from there.
Right on.
Alright, brother.
Have a good one.
Alrighty.
So back in DC, that's interesting.
Sam told me, my wife told me about that.
I thought she didn't think it was right.
And I was like, it doesn't sound right, but they haven't done it for a while.
They canceled it the one year because of COVID, but the hotel, it was a multi-year thing they had to do.
Oh.
The Gaylord, I think?
No, that's here.
It was the Marriott or whatever.
Oh, in Rose and Hillard?
Yeah, but they had to do a multi-year thing.
Oh, okay.
I assume they moved to Florida permanently because like, hey, Florida's the new Constantinople, you know?
It really is.
And I mean, come on.
Okay, it's March.
Where do you want to be?
I know last year's February.
That's why I was mad, too.
I mean, I will go to Florida then.
Either way, I'm excited.
Oh, we're going to throw up.
All right, cool.
I last was at CPAC 2020 and right before everything went to hell in a handbasket and I got to see the president's speech and that was the one where I think the single funniest thing he ever did of all of his stand-up routines is when he made fun of Bloomberg like kneeling below the podium.
The whole, the roof just blew off with laughter.
It was incredible.
You know what happened during that speech?
The first person in America died of COVID.
That literally is like... Really?
Is that true?
Yes.
I thought you were going to talk about something else.
That changed everything.
Yeah.
Wow.
What a downer that is.
Wasn't it a donor at two back?
Thanks, Jeff.
No, that was someone that got it, but it was the first person that... I don't care.
I can't wait for you back.
That's gonna be great.
All right.
No, that's good, actually.
Yeah.
March 1st through 4th, you said.
All right.
Good to know.
Kurt bringing the 411.
All right.
Well, we got four callers.
what this is you
welcome back to America First with our very special guest Uncle Jimbo It's Jim Hansen.
Yes, I am.
And yes, we are having a deep and not really dark, but not even really difficult.
I think this is a discussion we have to have about how to win in 2024.
And there are no sacred cows.
We're going to hear tonight I am 100% sure that President Trump is running for election again, not re-election.
And I think that's good.
He was abused like no other president that I am aware of during his entire first campaign.
The Mueller investigation, impeachment one, impeachment two, and just the entire assault on his presidency was absolute unmitigated garbage.
It was all undeserved.
It stopped him from being able to do a lot of stuff.
It basically served the purposes of the left.
They stopped him from doing a stop of the fundamental transformation they had underway.
So they got what they wanted.
We did not.
And I am happy that he is going to be in the mix.
I'm also happy Ron DeSantis will be in the mix.
And most of the rest we might care less about.
But we're going to have a good discussion.
I want to take a call right now, and I think we've had Victor from Silver Spring in, I believe, the Republic of Maryland, a communist state.
What you got for us, Victor?
Yes, it's the People's Republic of Maryland.
If Trump does run, there's a couple of things I really wish he would do.
I wish he would hold rallies in blue cities.
Go to Baltimore, say, how do you like the crime here?
Are you tired of getting mugged?
Are you tired of getting shot at?
I'm for the police.
You know, that type of thing.
And also, I wish he wouldn't be so negative.
We know about the gas prices, the high cost of everything.
What's he going to do about it?
I'm going to open up every oil Well, I can fine when I'm president.
That type of thing.
Start working on that.
I think those are a couple good suggestions.
It's interesting.
Now, the thing I would say is Kim Klasick ran in a Baltimore area, and a lot of money got dumped in her campaign.
They made some great ads.
The ad of her with the red heels walking through that decrepit craphole of a city that the Democrats have made there was just brilliant.
That was some of the best political theater I can recall seeing, and she lost by about 35 points.
You know, and she was never going to win.
So I think there's an element of political theater to be done.
And the idea Trump can do a rally relatively cheaply, and it might be good to show the flag in some places where they're not expecting it.
You know, it's one of those things you make them defend everywhere, because nowhere is safe.
We did well in New York.
You know, Lee Zeldin led a red wave in New York.
We did well in California.
Some people in California in red parts of that state helped save the house.
And we dominated in Florida.
So I think, yeah, we don't need as much in the areas where we are already dominant, but I think it's a great idea to go ahead and show the flag some other places and let them know.
We're bringing this message to all Americans, because we've got liberty, security, and prosperity, and you've got garbage junkies in the street, drag queens, and crazy people indoctrinating our kids.
I think that's a great message.
Let's talk to Paul in Philly.
Hey, Paul, how do you like your new senator?
Senator Braindead Shrek.
It's absolutely unbelievable.
I'll tell you.
I mean, you know, it's absolutely unbelievable because I know how the rest of Pennsylvania votes.
And it's very conservative, small towns who need change that we got with Donald Trump.
Unfortunately, in the cities like where I live, Philadelphia, you have block voters.
They vote as a block.
And simply put, they don't investigate candidates or issues as much.
They just go on hearsay and whatever they hear on the commercial, very simply put.
Because I ask them, I say, well, what do you know about this?
What do you know about that?
They don't know about anything.
So it's a block voter type recruitment.
I've seen them.
They come to the door.
You know, if you're listed as a Democrat, they expect your vote.
They're not ready to discuss with you, and it's very interesting.
They know to avoid me, of course, by this point.
Your guest, Mr. Chamberlain, I wish there were a way to put what he's saying to the test.
Maybe advertise a DeSantis rally, and let's see how many...
I'd like to see him draw a crowd.
Yeah.
And just to see how many folks show up in a separate different town or city or state.
And then, you know, maybe he would have a different opinion.
I'm sorry to say, he sounds very nice and you have a lot of patience.
But I've lost my patience with, you know, people who have jelly for a stomachache.
Well, I get it.
And I think that's a fair request.
Let's find out, does DeSantis scale?
Obviously he's doing great in Florida.
He's done in Florida what no one has ever done.
He took Miami-Dade County.
He brought, you know, the Hispanic vote into play and took it from them, took it from the Democrats.
So I think there's something there.
You know, there is obviously something there.
He gets stuff done as an executive.
There are reasons Ron DeSantis is a good candidate.
But it's also fair to say, is he a Trump-level candidate?
And he hasn't proved that.
He hasn't even come close to proving that.
And I think that's part of the game.
I like the idea of focus testing or trying to find out if we can get a DeSantis rally at that kind of scale.
Let's talk to Al from my home state of Virginia now.
What's up, Al?
Hey, how are you all doing?
Great show.
Thank you very much for having it.
Yeah, one comment to me is this was the year that we overturned Roe v. Wade.
Which no one thought would happen.
Yeah.
And we won the House.
So tell me, there's something peculiar about that, because you would think the House is the closest to the people that you can get.
And every House seat was up.
And we won it in a year we overturned Roe v. Wade.
And I'll compare that to the year that Obama put in Obamacare.
I'm thinking after he did that, He lost a bunch of House seats.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right after he did that.
He got crushed.
Yeah, and the funny thing is, when Trump lost two years ago, we gained, I think, 20-something House seats when he lost.
So I think we kind of had a little bit of a wave, which was an unusual thing, because normally, I think if the president wins, He carries people with him.
Biden lost.
So Biden lost two years ago, and he also lost now a couple more seats.
But, you know, that's the one thing that I have to say.
The other thing, just on Trump, I was not a Trump supporter when he first ran.
I did vote for him because I'm a Republican.
I'm very conservative.
He is the most impressive president, even over Reagan, because He overachieved what I thought he would do, and everything he said he was going to do, he went for it, no matter if his life was on the stake.
And I don't think anyone should ever underestimate him.
Donald Trump is a powerful man, a powerful candidate, and the prohibitive favorite to win the nomination.
And if he wins the nomination, he's my man.
I mean, no question.
I am going to watch the process, though, and I will back whoever the Republican Party nominates.
This is Jim Hanson.
We'll be back with more America First Radio.
All right.
And You know, DeSantis, he could prove this theory, which I don't think it's true, though, that he can is go to Georgia for a week and get her to walk over the line.
Oh, man, say that's proof that I. Boy, that's a.
Well, I don't think he's going to win, though.
It's a gamble.
He won't do it, but I'm saying... Yeah, the problem is, I don't think Walker can win, and so right then, you take the tarnish off your victory.
Because right now, he's the glory boy.
And anything that could mess with that, I think he's going to want to... And he gambles, yeah.
He's going to stay in Florida and rebuild roads.
He's praying for more hurricanes because he's kicking ass in the hurricane biz.
He's two for two in hurricanes.
Remember how bad they were voting for him?
The one before last?
They were like, oh, this is going to take out DeSantis.
And then people died.
That was a horrible hurricane.
That was a crushing thing.
And they couldn't pin a thing on him.
And the funny thing is, my grandmother lived on Sanibel Island.
for many, many years.
We used to go down there every year for vacation.
And that's where the causeway got wiped out.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a fricking island.
There's a causeway to get on and off.
And that's it.
And that they lost hundreds of meters of that thing.
And the expectation was it would be out, you know, for months because it's that big an ordeal.
And they had it up and running in like less than two weeks, you know, like 10 days.
It was rebuilt and they were running stuff across it.
And I think that that right there, you know, that's That's something that people can kind of identify with.
And I think DeSantis is going to be, he seems to be smart and calculating enough to not take the bait from Trump, you know, which is smart because all Trump wants him to do is answer.
You know, because then he's got a battle royale and he's the king of that.
You know, you don't get in the cage with Trump unless you're an idiot.
You're right.
You know, I mean, that's his that's his place.
You simply don't win.
He's Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania.
You know, you don't get in the cage.
Hell, he's been to WrestleMania.
I was going to say, he's just Donald Trump at WrestleMania.
Throwing Vince McMahon over the table.
Taking out CNN at WrestleMania.
That was one of my favorite things in existence.
Oh, my God.
K-File.
Can we talk about what a piece of what a dung beetle Andrew Kaczynski is?
I also have to ask you a very serious question, Jim, in front of all our Rumble viewers.
was that who made the meme do we even remember oh yeah no he got doxed he was a kid yeah and it was a great meme it was funny it was so good it was trump taking out cnn and it was proper and then you go ahead oh we gotta we gotta get this guy to ruin this kid's life i also have to ask you a very serious question jim in front of all our rumble viewers did you just use the word meters instead of feet wow I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for a moment.
Am I Eurotrash?
I thought we were.
What the hell happened to me?
What the hell is a kilometer?
Wow.
I'd be kind of ashamed.
I'm trying to think of why I did that.
It was so natural.
You didn't hesitate.
You just said hundreds of meters.
And I'm just like, wait.
Wait.
I am going to have to go home and re-indoctrinate myself into the... What is it?
What's the system called?
The royal... It's not the royal system.
The imperial system.
Of weights and measures.
You could have just saved yourself and said you were talking about street meters.
No, no.
I like to cop when I screw up, you know?
It's fair.
I was.
It's Jim Hansen.
Alright, well hey, we're going to keep this rolling because the people's voice is important to me.
And I want to talk to Dale from California, Cali, because I was just out there.
As I mentioned with Kurt Schlichter, we were at his house, my wife and I, for election night debacle.
And we were in her hometown of Bakersfield.
She got inducted in her high school Hall of Fame because she's super cool.
But Dale, what part of Cali are you in, man?
The northern part.
The northern part.
All right.
Well, what you got for me, brother?
Old enough to have voted for Ronald Reagan and lived through the time of the era of Reagan is over.
You probably don't remember that, but... I'm pretty old.
Reagan was my first presidential election.
So I voted for him.
He was the first president I voted for.
So you're old enough to remember the era of Reagan is over, correct?
Correct.
And what did we get after that?
Nothing good.
Exactly.
Nothing good.
So, the Republican Party went out there and threw Reagan under the bus because his era was over.
And what you and, I like the way the other guy put it, Neville Chamberlain were talking about... Wait, did you just compare me to Neville Chamberlain?
This better be good.
No, you and your... Neville Chamberlain.
Oh, Will Chamberlain.
Neville Chamberlain.
All right, go ahead, Dale.
And so what you're doing is you're throwing Trump under the bus, and what we're going to get is we're going to get the evil party and the less evil party.
If you lurch left or just gradually slide left, you're still going left.
And that's why When Donald Trump came along and was just unbelievably popular is because he actually got things done that conservative people wanted.
Okay, and I wouldn't dispute that at all, but I'm going to go ahead and make a point.
I don't think you can put Ron DeSantis even a step to the left of Donald Trump.
I've watched very closely, and we know a lot of his people in Florida, and I have a lot of friends who are very tied into that whole network in Florida.
And I don't see an ounce of anything other than what, if it was coming from Trump, you'd call pure MAGA coming out of that guy.
So I understand your point that when the king is available, Right?
And he could step back into his role, that it would be crazy not to have the King step back into his role.
And I think that's a fair point.
But I think it's also a fair point to ask, given the fact that he got 75 million votes in 2020, and as Neville Chamberlain, also known as Will, said, what are the odds he's bringing more people than that to the table?
Versus less.
You know, everybody's already got their opinion made up on Donald Trump.
Fewer people have their opinion made up on DeSantis.
So I think it's fair to let DeSantis make the point that I'm as strong, I have policies that are as good as Trump's, and I think I can be an effective executive without the baggage.
I think it's a fair argument, and I'm glad we're going to have it, because I think we'll end up with the strongest candidate of those two because of it.
Let's jump.
Let's go to New Jersey.
Hey, Mark, what you got for me, buddy?
Thank you, guys.
I have.
I want to congratulate the Republicans for taking the House of Representatives, which is important.
And the media is kind of downplaying it right now.
It's vital.
Ironically, thanks in part to New York And California voters and New Jersey voters here, unfortunately, we can do so much.
Fed up with no cash bail, high crime, high grocery prices, high taxes, and transgender studies for innocent young children, which is mental child abuse, by the way, courtesy of the godless failed Democrat Party.
Thank you very much.
Well, you know what?
I think it's, I 100% want to thank all of the people who went out in places where historically you might feel like your vote's wasted if you're in New York or if you're in California.
But because we needed the House, if we had not taken the House and they had all three of the major organs, the presidency and both houses of Congress, I think they would have packed the Supreme Court.
I think they would have done all the crazy things they talked about in the first half of Biden's term.
And they chickened out on, or Manchin stopped them from, and I think they would have tried that stuff again.
And I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to the people there, to Lee Zeldin for leading a wave there, to DeSantis for doing what he did, and to the people.
Rick Grinnell was relentless in California, pushing quality candidates and making good things happen there.
And I think everybody who believes in this movement, our movement, No matter where you are, make something happen.
That's what that proves.
It doesn't matter.
Nobody's locked out.
We're all in this together.
Every vote counts.
Every barbecue you can talk to somebody at counts.
It all counts.
The game is afoot and we got two years to get ready and we need to take them down.
Down.
We'll be back again after the break.
We're going to do more America First.
We're going to take some more calls because I think it's important.
I think this is a discussion we all need to have.
I'm Jim Hanson.
Your guys are you.
and we'll be back with more radio.
Back to him.
All right.
That's on.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, baby.
Neville Chamberlain.
That was clever.
That was good.
That was too good.
I missed it at first.
I thought he was comparing me to Neville Chamberlain.
I was like, man, how does that work?
We had people in the rumble chat also comparing him to Wilt Chamberlain.
Like saying, I thought, you're having Wilt Chamberlain on?
Yeah, I don't think so.
I think he's a one-woman man.
She's a good... Jordi's awesome.
Will's wife is a stud.
Oh yeah, three minutes.
All right.
Yeah, five points.
Zeldin came as close as anyone's ever gonna come in New York, I think.
It was actually a race, and that's just not what you expect in that.
Especially in that, I mean, you want to talk about a corrupt, machine state.
You know, I mean, that's one of them.
That's just the blue wall that is New York City, man.
The rest of the state could have gone for him, and New York City would have just completely overvoted it, I think.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's kind of like Illinois versus Chicago.
You may squeak out one like in 2014 when they won in Illinois, but it's just... There's too many votes and they're too good at, like we discussed, they're too good at harvesting them.
That's the single biggest mistake the founders ever made.
I mean, the Electoral College was a genius idea, you know, so big states can't necessarily completely swamp out smaller states.
They didn't anticipate that effect happening within the state.
They're like, oh, one big city outvotes.
There should be Electoral Colleges within the states.
So, like, that would be—it'd be fair, right?
Multilayered federalism, huh?
Exactly.
Drive it to—we'd never get that through.
Unfortunately, no.
But, like, if they had done that from the beginning, it would have been—yeah.
But, you know, how could you possibly, you know, anticipate megalopolises?
Yeah.
I mean, they at least anticipated the AR-15.
I'll give them credit for that.
That's in the Constitution, I'm 100% sure.
And they anticipated, I mean, just the balance of power with Congress.
Again, the 17th, the repeal of the 17th Amendment was, or no, the implementation of the 17th Amendment was a huge mistake.
The senators being elected by popular vote?
You know what my favorite?
That one actually, I do remember, but I can never remember any amendments above 5, sometimes 6, I don't even remember 6 most of the time.
It's funny, I'm an educated person, kinda.
And it's, you know, you get up to 12, 13, 14, I'm like, I don't know what that is.
I gotta look it up, and I'm not gonna pretend.
But literally, if state legislatures still decided the U.S.
Senate, then we would have a supermajority in the Senate right now.
We still would.
I guess I'd be for that because at this point I'm for anything that gives power to our team.
That's kind of a super-federalist thing that would always protect us.
Screw those guys.
Can we erase that one?
Repealing it would be ideal, but yeah, that's... No, just erase it.
Like, that's why, you know, I mean, Trump saved the Republic.
Yes.
Because Hillary and three of her judges, they'd have just taken white out to the Constitution.
You know, like, this, we don't need that, and this is what they actually meant here.
You know, that would have been, we'd have been done.
Yeah.
Alright.
Forty seconds.
This is the D segment.
How long?
Eight minutes.
Right on.
30 seconds.
The DJ.
It's Jim Hanson.
Alright folks, I think this has been really exactly what I wanted to do today.
And I appreciate it, I appreciate the callers, I appreciate the guests, my good buddy Neville, Will Chamberlain, and everybody else.
Because we need to talk about this because we lost.
But we did win.
Keep or we did take the house in order to keep our Republic because I honestly think had we not taken the house They would have done all their crazy stuff and and we would now again be Looking at the sequel to my winning the second civil war without firing a shot book Which would be winning the second world war by shooting a whole bunch of bad people Go ahead media matters.
Let's let's argue about that.
Um But I think the nice thing is we're at least in control of one place where we can put some brakes on this, and that's vital.
So I want to keep this rocking, and I want to talk to Matt in North Carolina.
What's shaking, Matt?
Hello there.
Howdy.
How you doing?
I am doing great.
I totally agree with you, Jim Hansen.
I remember your name.
You're doing a great job for Sebastian Gorka, and also, I agree with you.
About President Trump.
Who cares about someone's personality?
I told Gorka this a couple years ago.
Who cares about personality?
I'm CAO of a company.
If someone cared about my personality, I'd be fired.
It's about results for the country.
Correct, Jim Hanson?
Factual information coming right there.
Thank you.
And the other thing is, did you hear about two missiles going into Poland?
Yeah, unfortunately I did.
I'm afraid that's not going to go well.
No, it's not.
But I thank you for your time.
Well, I appreciate it.
And I take your point.
You know, Donald Trump is a lot of things, and there are a lot of things that have been hung on him that the left has used that have been unfair.
Some of them have been fair.
But there's one thing you can say about him, and I will say with absolutely no hesitation, he saved the Republic in 2016 by beating Hillary Clinton.
Because if we had her three judges on the Supreme Court instead of the three justices that Trump put, We would be in a different world, and I'm not convinced Kurt Schlichter wouldn't be Warlord of the West and I'd be Warlord of the East as we tried to take the country back, because they would have taken White out and an eraser to the Constitution.
Look what they did with Trump in.
Look at the way they abused state power with him in as president.
Had we had the Supreme Court in their pocket and those people willing to take away the First and Second Amendments, we'd be living in a different country.
Let's jump again.
Let's go back to Arizona, because that's a big thing.
We've got Ken in Arizona.
What's going on in your world?
I have an observation I don't think has been brought up.
I think you guys are missing the point.
I'm a baby boomer.
My generation is dying off, but we have Generation X, Y, Z, Millennial, and they're voting ideology over self-interest.
Biden tried to bribe the youth with loan forgiveness, and they did abortion, abortion, abortion.
Reach that group of people to get their news off the phone.
We're going to continue to lose because the demographics are changing.
You know, I think you're right.
I think one of the things that happened with all the polling that people were looking at that was talking about a red wave and all the rest of it, it was two things.
First of all, the pollers all looked at their debacle of the last election where they were wrong by undercounting the potential Republican votes and a bunch of other things.
And they swung their predictions by adding two Republican votes this time after they had done their actual polling.
And okay, they're supposed to do that.
They're supposed to try and anticipate where they were wrong.
Well, they were wrong again, just the other way this time.
The second thing, to your point, is you can't poll Gen Z. And you really can't poll millennials in any meaningful way, because all those morons are looking at their phones, and they won't even answer the phone for their friends.
Let alone if some random number comes up, you know, and they've all got the block all in all of the outside calls.
So you can't get them on the phone.
You can't poll therefore to find out what they're doing.
And they voted and actually skewed the final result because nobody was expecting those numbers.
So, to the extent that we know we can't pull them, but we know they're now indoctrinated with woke dogma and, you know, they're essentially unthinking because it's a secular religion.
You're not allowed to go ahead and dissent from it.
We have to find a way to reach their self-interest or to maybe distract them and hope they don't come out.
But I think we have to do both.
You know, we need to get to the ones who are reachable Uncle Jimbo, A.A.
explain, okay, you wanted free stuff.
Well, you're not getting your student loans paid for unless someone passes it in Congress.
And maybe that's a smart thing for the Republicans to do.
So there's a lot of ways we can slice and dice this.
But I think you're absolutely right.
We got to get to them.
All right, let's jump back.
We got A-Ron in Maryland.
I know I'm mispronouncing your name there, buddy.
What do you got?
Uncle Jimbo, A-Ron works absolutely okay with me.
Right on.
So, oh my gosh.
So first, do I have to choose between Team Wolverine and Kurt Schlichter?
Or Team Plissken and Uncle Jimbo.
No, no, no.
You can get both, because we've agreed that once we secure our toeholds on either side in the Great War to retake the Republic, that we will meet in the middle and we will carve up a new America between the two of us.
So it is a mutually beneficial defense pact.
It is.
Yes, yes it is.
I like that.
Alright.
So I called in and told Mr. G that what we need to see is a destruction of the donor class, and if you think back to who's a decisive We're not seeing that right now.
war, it was the John Hancocks.
It was the merchant class.
It was the rich and powerful that had bought into an idea that they were being trampled on.
They lost ships.
They lost the ability to conduct commerce.
They ended up having to fund the crown with more taxes than they liked.
So they bought into a radical change at that time.
We're not seeing that right now.
And I want to pivot as well and pick up on the fact that just like you were talking about with millennials, somebody that's borderline on that cusp, You're right.
We don't consume information the same way as the older generations do.
And you need a more organic distribution network, a logistical network that borderlines along what the Tea Party was, that had no leader, had no speakerhead, and it was exceptionally hard to attack by the establishment.
They were effective, and they finally got the ability to destroy it.
And what destroyed that?
It was the 65 seats.
It was the fact that we had a victory and nobody realized at that time that we needed to keep that victory going.
2016, similarly online, President Trump built into that same virtual network without the actual need to get out of your house.
It made it easier for the working class to consume information like myself that goes to work and grinds every single day.
Well, you know what?
I think those are both great ideas because we need a better class of people as donors and we need a better way to speak to the people who share our beliefs but just aren't hearing them because the media screens them out.
We'll be back after the break and close out this hour with some wonderful thoughts of my own on this.
And this is Jim Hansen, this is America First Radio, and we're going to do some more fixing to win in 2024.
Nice off to this one again, top of the hour.
Yeah, I'm Team Plissken.
Wait a minute, we're only... we got one more segment, right?
Oh, shoot, you're right.
Sorry.
Yeah, I thought I forgot.
Don't freak me out, man.
No, never mind.
I was thrown off by that one.
Back to him.
Well, if I was Team Plissken, what was... what was Schlichter?
He was the West Coast, and the guy had a great... Well, I know the Plissken reference.
I'm trying to think of... What was... it was... I recognized the reference when he said it.
I just can't remember it.
Anyhow, we'll check the tape.
I'm all for it.
Someone in Rumble is going to remind us what he called Schlichter's team.
I'm all for Escape from New York references.
Yeah, that's a great movie.
What a great movie.
It holds up, man.
It holds up.
In 1988, the crime rate in the United States rises 400%.
Dude, is that the actual opener?
That's the actual opener.
Wow, deep, deep reference there.
Nice grab.
So when do they finally do what needs to be done with Manhattan Island?
What are we gonna do, sell it back to the Dutch?
Or sell it back to the Indians?
Who do we sell it to?
Make a prison out of it!
That's fun.
Yeah, I don't know, we gotta get the rest of the money out of it first.
Or we could just cut the internet pipeline and then they'd have to re, you know...
That was one of the things we planned one time.
We were red selling and we had to take out all of the major internet nodes in the United States and it was far easier than it should have been.
Didn't fill me with a lot of confidence.
Oh, someone in chat, Roundhammer, says Wolverines.
Red Dawn.
When does he get to be Wolverines?
I'm from Green Bay.
He's from California.
Now I get to be, he gets to be Plissken because it was Escape from LA.
So we're flipping it.
So he's Plissken and I get to be Wolverines because come on.
So do we get to see a Kurt Schlichter surfing with a Peter Fonda?
See, there's so many more, and he gets Point Break and that stuff, and I'll take the Real America stuff.
That movie's on Netflix right now.
I rewatched it again the other day.
That's such a good one, too.
Point Break?
Oh, yeah.
That was outstanding.
Plus, the nice thing about Wolverine is Amanda Milius.
Come on.
I get to play with her and her dad and everybody else there.
We need to re-remake that, because I didn't even watch the remake.
I did.
I watched it so you don't have to.
Yeah, I was like, there are some things I just don't want you to remake, because, come on.
There were good actors in it, but, yeah, well, you know, it was supposed to be the Chinese invading us, but they changed it, because, like, oh, we don't want to offend the Chinese box office, so they made it the North Koreans.
Like, yeah, the North Koreans are gonna invade us.
The North Koreans can't even get lunch fixed.
The North Koreans can't even get lunch.
The North Koreans can't even get lunch.
It's Jim Hanson.
Alright, this has been the People's Hour of America First Radio, so we're going to keep rocking with that, and we're going to go back to the great state, formerly the American Dream, California, and talk to Steve from San Jose.
What do you got?
Hey, how you doing, Jim?
I appreciate you taking my call.
Not a problem.
Hit us.
My first time ever talking, I listen all the time.
Recently, Trump turned me on to politics.
I ignored it, like so many people that I talk to seem to ignore it.
But I wanted to just be real quick and point in the direction that the media controls basically everything.
I mean, this left-swing media.
And they keep pointing us in a direction like, this is why you lost the election.
It was abortion.
It was this.
It was that.
Having us not really focus on the point of how much effect them organizing the elections, controlling, you know, cheating is not a really nice word I like to use, but I really would be surprised at If everything is so razor thin, how much of an effect they had on that.
And they're pointing us to the Sanders right now.
I do.
I really think Ron DeSantis is great.
And I think I'm like everybody.
I think Trump for four years and then Ron for eight.
And we may have a chance at getting the world back in order because we're, you know, the main force here.
But here's my problem.
A guy, I don't remember his name.
The guy who screened me told me his name.
He was, I guess, the main money man for Barack Obama.
And I saw this on Newsmax.
It said that the same human being that pushed Obama all the way up the pole is now pushing DeSantis.
And I want people to keep their eye on the bullseye here, you know.
If that's what they want us to go with, you know, DeSantis, I mean, I'm a little leery of that.
Well, you should be.
We should be.
I would bet you DeSantis, if this is a boxing match, DeSantis would not be standing if he was in Trump's shoes.
Well, that's why I said don't get in the cage with the Donald.
He is the king of the cage match and the WrestleMania master.
But here's what I would say.
It's smart to be skeptical of every single thing you see coming from the media and coming from the establishment, coming from the rest of them, because they do not have our best interests at heart.
They are doing this for reasons that aren't to ours or the country's advantage.
That doesn't mean that what they're doing and what DeSantis is doing make him bad.
Because I'm going to go ahead and again stand up for him and say that he's not what they make him.
And he, I don't believe, is coercible to become that.
You know, there's people, this guy Ken Griffin, saying, I'm going to give him money and he's going to do whatever I want to change into corporatism.
Don't bet the farm on that.
Last time I checked, he kicked Disney in their queer agenda.
So, you know, I think there's a there's a lot to be said for him, but there's more to be said for being skeptical of everything that the establishment and the media and the rest of the broken machines are telling us.
We'll make up our own minds.
That's the way the system works.
All right, we got some news.
I'm hoping they're not going to tell us that World War III has started before we get back, because after the news, we've got Julie Kelly, and we're going to talk about FBI informants and lies and abuse of power.
This is Jim Hanson, this is America First Radio.
Back after the break.
- Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, we are back and we're going to shift out of the election debacleering and fixing things for 2024 and talk about one of the things that we need a majority to fix, which is the abuses of power that the deep state permanent bureaucracy is doing to patriotic Americans and in their ongoing attempt to kill dissent.
We have one of the most important journalists of our time, Julie Kelly, who writes at America Greatness, who actually does investigative journalism and reports on things, who has been letting us know just how badly the Fed cases against the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys are compromised again by the fact that there were a pile of Fed informants in both groups.
And yet, somehow, none of these people can testify to an actual seditious conspiracy happening.
That seems kind of weird, doesn't it, Julie?
Well, it really does.
And I mean, that's what is really coming out of the Oath Keepers, one of the two major so-called militia groups involved in the events of January 6th.
So you have a trial going on right now in D.C.
It started the end of September.
Five Oath Keepers charged with the exceedingly rare charge of seditious conspiracy.
But pretty much all of the witnesses who have testified, even for the government, have confirmed that there was no conspiracy ahead of time.
But what's really interesting that's coming out of these court filings and some of the testimony, Jim, is the use of FBI informants in both the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys months before January 6th, which raises Two questions.
One, if the FBI did have numerous FBI informants embedded in these groups months before, why didn't they alert law enforcement of the potential for violence?
Or the second question, was this less about intelligence collection and surveillance, and more like we saw in the Whitmer Fednapping hoax, which was the FBI stitching groups together and citing violent chatter on encrypted chats promoting and sort of provoking the sort of behavior that played out that afternoon.
So there are a lot more questions being raised as the trials are going on.
The Proud Boys trial will start on December 12th and what the New York Times reported and I reported today as well is the presence of numerous up to eight FBI informants in the Proud Boys before January 6th.
So, all right.
Now, at some level, we want the federal government looking out to find out if there are domestic extremists or actual, more importantly, terrorist groups trying to commit violence against the United States.
But given this cornucopia of confidential informants they had in both these groups and not a single piece of evidence of a conspiracy to commit violence, any sedition,
And any violent acts being planned, let alone anything even approaching terrorism or insurrection, how can we now look at the FBI and take them as anything but a state organ out of control being used for political purposes?
Well, you can't, and that is the majority view of Americans.
It's certainly the majority view of Republicans in Congress.
Look, Christopher Wray testified before the House Homeland Security Committee, and Americans should take a few moments to look at that testimony or some of the clips.
What really was dropping today, Jim, is that he was asked twice whether the FBI had undercover agents or informants dressed as Trump supporters planted inside the Capitol before the doors opened on January 6th, Christopher Wray could not say no. - Oh. -
That would be a no-brainer that the director of the FBI would take great umbrage at the thought that any of his assets would be to rest as Trump supporters at the so-called insurrection before the building was allegedly breached.
He would not say no, and he was called out by Representative Clay Higgins.
Good for him.
But this is just the latest in a string of non-answers that we've gotten from the FBI about what they did before, during, and after January 6th.
At the same time, revelations about FBI informants that the government has tried to hide even from defendants and defense attorneys.
The latest drop that they just, the last minute drop, 500 plus pages of redacted material about the confidential human source operation just into the Proud Boys.
So we still have a lot more to learn.
And, you know, Jim, I think this is a big reason Democrats were desperate to try to hold on to the House and do anything they can.
They do not want Republicans to expose and get to the bottom of what happened that day.
Then I think, and obviously, as we look at the things that we can do with control the house, which is going to be the only political tool we have for a couple years, that's a huge one, because with subpoena power, we can bring more people into play.
And I think if we expand the investigations to find out how far back And what was the trigger that led them to put confidential human sources into these organizations?
And if there was a legitimate trigger, if there was some sort of probable cause to do to take that act and actually spy on U.S. citizens, why aren't we hearing about it?
What was it?
Why aren't they testifying about it?
What was so horrible that either the Proud Boys or the Three Percenters or anybody else, the Oath Keepers were doing that led our government to use the most dangerous tool they have, the ability to spy on U.S. citizens against them.
And I think you have asked all the correct questions.
Now, do you think we can get our representatives to follow through and use that power to push this?
Well, we're going to have to keep pushing, Jim.
And look, if this were happening in a vacuum, if I had not followed and reported so closely what happened in the Whitmer kidnapping hoax, which was dozens of FBI supervising agents, undercover agents, and informants working out of multiple FBI field offices, to stitch this group and informants working out of multiple FBI field offices, to stitch this group together to make it look like white supremacist militiamen loyal Tried to kidnap and kill Garchin Whitmer right before the 2020 election.
Had I not covered that, and had that not been shown of you into the FBI, you might say, okay, it's a good thing the FBI had assets in these two alleged militia groups.
But no.
This was happening, Jim, at the very same time the FBI was concocting and engineering the Whitmer Fednapping hoax.
This is the same exact playbook.
Look at the Oath Keepers, what we just found out.
The number two guy, the vice president, the man who reported directly as Stuart Rhodes, the founder and head of the Oath Keepers, he's an FBI informant.
That's what happened in Whitmer.
You had the lead informant, who was the so-called commanding officer of an imaginary militia.
He used that post to lure his targets into this entrapment scheme.
So, this was all happening in the summer and fall of 2020.
And then, of course, we saw the events of January 6th.
What a lot of Americans think that they saw, I'm telling you, that's not what you saw.
And it would be very easy, Jim, the first thing Republicans should do is release the surveillance video captured by security cameras inside and outside the Capitol building starting on the morning of January 6th.
Wouldn't it be interesting, so you kind of think that maybe there was a unit or a collection of these potential FBI guys Ray was refusing to disavow who were ready to mingle, you know, or potentially to open doors or do any of the rest of the stuff.
Is that kind of what we're looking at?
Look, Representative Higgins would be one of four, a member of one of four committees who has access to that highly sensitive surveillance video.
He didn't just out of the blue today ask us to believe there were FBI agents dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol.
He must know.
He must have seen the video and he knows that that's true.
Republicans can very easily release that footage.
We should be able to see it.
It's on publicly funded security cameras.
Publicly funded police force, Capitol Police, and a publicly funded building.
The whole point that they've kept this under seal under protective order since March of 2021.
That was one of the things that raised red for me early on.
But that's not right.
They're hiding something.
And now we know that they're hiding more than just the footage.
They're hiding the role, not just the FBI, but other federal agencies as well.
And the idea that they can't get any testimony from any of these informants of an actual conspiracy to do anything by itself, that's pretty damning.
Okay, we went ahead and decided to spy on these people.
We didn't catch them doing anything, and we couldn't actually trick them into saying anything and conducting an actual conspiracy prior to this.
But when things got out of hand on the day in question, Well, maybe there was help from inside, maybe there wasn't.
But we've got these guys, and yet they're not testifying to anything even close to the charges.
Julie Kelly, you have done the work of the angels on this.
One of the few who has stayed with them.
Thank you for doing it for the people in The Gulag, thank you for doing it for the rest of us who need to make sure this never happens again.
Follow her on American Greatness, all of her work, just go there, Google her name, and read everything she's written if you haven't.
Thanks for being on the show.
Jim, thanks so much for having me on.
Oh, and let's not forget her book, January 6th, how Americans, Democrats use the protest to rip the rest of us off.
Julie Kelly.
The book is January 6th.
I'm Jim Hanson.
We'll be back after the break.
All right.
All right.
We're out.
But seriously, thanks.
And I think we're going to get some goodness out of this.
And hopefully, you know, I don't know, I don't want to count on DC juries, but they have certainly not proven a seditious conspiracy and I would love an acquittal.
Well, unfortunately, in any other jurisdiction, it would sort of seem like a no-brainer.
But when you're dealing with not just D.C. juries, but a D.C. judge, Amit Maiden, an Obama appointee who basically has already declared the Oath Keepers guilty in a civil lawsuit, you know, this is—I can't imagine a good outcome for these guys, unfortunately.
No, but I think come 2025, if God still loves this country, we can do some pardons and pay some reparations, because these people have had their lives destroyed over some political garbage.
Thanks again, and we will talk to you again soon.
Hey, you coming to CPAC?
March 1 through 4.
It's March 1 through 4, and it's in D.C.
I'm waiting for my invite from Matt Schlapp.
I hope I get one.
Well, Matt, if you're surveilling this, he called in earlier for some reason.
Accidentally, yeah.
I'll go harass him in his DMs.
You do that, and you be here, and we'll have a party the night before.
Love it.
Glad to see you and your wife.
All right, we'll talk to you soon.
Enjoy.
All right, talk to you soon, guys.
Thanks.
Bye-bye.
All righty, two minutes.
Oh, by the way, poll's over, so yeah, DJT DeSantis won.
All right, now we've got an open segment here, and then 535, you said?
Jeff?
What is the name of... Patriot Action?
Oh, okay, thanks.
Oh, I see.
She's, yeah, what you said.
Open segment here, then one after that.
Is she Skype?
Yeah.
Okay, thanks.
So then I can do the DJT one at the end, right?
After her, I'll still have like an 8-minute segment?
She's the C segment, right?
530?
Yeah, so I can do D?
Yeah, D. That's a good long segment for doing something like that, yeah.
Okay, I'll do... Then D, we'll do that, and then I'm just gonna tap dance.
What do we got now?
We got... This is B, which is 9 minutes.
Oh, it is pretty long.
It is, yeah.
You could do it here if you want, yeah.
Maybe I should.
Oh, but we got a full... Let's take some calls.
Yeah, take the call.
Yeah, we got a full switchboard.
They might not hold over.
You're right, yeah.
Wow.
This has been rockin'.
This is even faster than usual.
Yeah, I mean, decent amount of news today between, you know, the GOP elite sticking it out and now World War 3 on the horizon.
World War 3, dude.
That shouldn't even be a thing.
Apparently they're saying, like, the president there in Poland said, like, it qualifies as Article 4 action.
Shut up.
That's what Foxconn just said.
Shut up.
I demand, alright, I'm gonna have to sue my authority.
This is so inevitable it's gonna end up this way.
And that's why you get out.
That's why you don't let shit like this go on.
Because something stupid will happen.
And everybody knew that.
And I don't think they cared.
They're obsessed with taking Putin out, and Putin is a stand-in for Trump.
Thanks.
And that's...
Welcome back to America First.
with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
Alright, well it's been lively.
Julie Kelly last segment was informing us of some of the heinous acts by the Deep State Permanent Bureaucracy and we need our incoming Congress to burn the FBI and burn their budget to start with.
Let's just go there and we'll see how that works out.
All right, it has been a lot of fun talking to people today, and I think it's the kind of situation, this fluidity, that I want to hear everybody's opinions.
So we have not been to Detroit Rock City yet, so let's talk to Mike.
What's up, brother?
Oh yeah, yeah.
You know, I was here when Julie was exposing what was happening with the governor and all the rest of this, and you know, I was amazed.
It took me forever to wrap my mind around who and what the Democratic Party had become.
You know, President Trump and conservative media really exposed this Democratic Party in the deep state, you know, and you're talking about political corruption, criminal corruption, Personal corruption, sedition, treason—the evidence is overwhelming.
They just adopted the worst tactics, the worst elements of two of the worst ideologies in history.
You know, the Stalinist show trial things that are going on, and these Gestapo tactics directed against Trump associates.
This is unprecedented.
In the history of our country, it took me forever to wrap my mind around this, and I think people are becoming awakened to what's going on here.
And that's what we need.
I was hoping that we would have the Senate and the House in a meaningful way after this election.
So that we could do some things to rein that in.
Because as you mentioned, you can call it the Gestapo, you can call it the Stasi.
Right now, we have a state security apparatus that is literally the political enforcement wing of the Democrat Party.
And it is being used against people whose beliefs they dislike, and they are not just willing to go ahead and find people are doing things wrong.
They are inventing insurrections.
They invented, as Julie calls it, a Fednapping in Michigan.
They invented this seditious conspiracy that weirdly had no conspiring and no sedition That any of their giant, you know, coterie of confidential informants can testify to.
They're not testifying to it.
There's a trial underway where the federal government accused these people of seditious conspiracy, had informants in their midst, and those informants aren't even testifying.
And they may even testify for the defense.
What on earth is going on?
It's disgraceful.
We need to fix it.
And that's going to require another election.
So back to the other part of this.
We will fix the the election apparatus in our machine on that.
Wow, okay, we got Callie in Arizona.
We got two from Callie.
Let's check in with Brian, who's going back to Callie.
Hi, hi, Jim.
Did you say you were in the military?
I was in the military.
What did you do in the military?
I was a special forces weapons guy.
So you're in special forces?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Seems like you're controlled opposition.
You're like covering up for some of the election fraud.
Seems like you're trying to blame Trump when really we know that they're ripping us off.
But you seem to be going along with the narrative of the Antifa wing of Republicans that likes to blame Trump.
And pretend like the elections are real.
That's what you're trying to say?
It's interesting.
I'm the controlled opposition.
I think there's a lot of people who would testify quite accurately that I am 100% uncontrollable and uncontrolled, my wife being the first of them.
But there's plenty of people who would let you know that I can't be bought.
I'm sorry.
You can pay me to do things that I was willing to do anyhow, but I am not controlled.
What I do Is I take an eye that I have used in a lot more dangerous situations to personal safety and apply that now to what's dangerous to our Republic and use the same mindset and try to find the proper tactics and techniques for our side to win.
But our side, to me, is the political right, which includes Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, and even the vast majority of the RINO establishment, GOPE, because we still need them to vote our way if we're going to stop the woke agenda.
So no, I am not the controlled opposition trying to go ahead and apologize for anything bad that's going on.
We don't know.
You know, I think I have said, I think the Arizona election, if I was going to script a Hollywood drama about a stolen election, I wouldn't have the stones to make it as blatantly bad looking as Arizona was this election.
That doesn't mean we can prove it.
And we'll have to see what can be found forensically and all that.
And we have to fix our process so that we don't let the Democrats do that to us in many other places.
But I am far from the guy who's trying to game the system.
I'm trying to make our team strong.
And I hope it gets that way.
Let's go to somebody from Arizona.
We got Greg in Arizona.
How's that whole election thing working out for you guys?
I think we lost Greg.
Well, we got one more.
All right, Hibby, what do you got, Greg?
Sorry, yeah, one point first before I get to the election.
I just want to back up and I, as has been ringing in my ear since 1990, Rush Limbaugh, I can still hear him saying it right now.
If you think the next guy is not going to have baggage, you're the fool.
There's no such thing as a Republican nominee for anything that will not be a terror, racist, bigot, homophobe, lame to list, whatever.
So DeSantis may be a little cleaner and may not feel like the baggage.
Give the media three months, just like McCain, everybody.
It's going to be everybody's going to be baggage.
So the only bottom line is, is who has the intestinal fortitude to fight?
We know one person does.
DeSantis might.
I don't know.
But we know, you know, one guy does.
So that's at the end.
That's we need still need a gladiator as ugly or baggage as it is.
You're not going to find a gladiator without the baggage.
That's that's number one.
You just mentioned, are we able to find the proof?
No.
Are we willing to look for it?
It's all over the place.
You can come down and do surveys with individuals.
My family has personal stories.
I've got one family that just dropped off her whole family's ballots.
That's not technically legal.
Was she doing anything wrong?
She didn't think so, but she didn't know what the answer was.
She just did.
My polling place?
I couldn't drop off a spouse's ballot because she wasn't there or I didn't have her or whatever.
There was a procedure that's supposed to go along with it.
Procedures were not followed anywhere.
So the proof is all over the place.
The question is, just like in 2020, is there a will on anybody's part to do anything to look for it and do something about it?
There isn't.
There's none in the Republican Party.
There's none in the Republican establishment.
Ron McDaniel has no interest.
Show me the people with interest.
You will find the problems all over the place.
They're latent.
I know, like, the guy staying in California.
My buddy's in California, too.
Walked right into the polling place.
I was on the phone with him three seconds after he left.
He goes, dude, they would not even look at my ID.
They go, nope, that's okay.
That's you right there.
Let me jump in.
I agree with you.
I 100% agree, first of all, that they'll have dogs on DeSantis' car and binders full of whatever.
But as far as the proof is, I know that Harmeet Dhillon and her law firm were in Arizona.
And I trust her.
All right.
Her, Ron Coleman.
There are a lot of good people who are now working on behalf of the RNC and who are not part of that machine.
They are independent quality people.
And while the proof is there, I think you're right.
I think you look anywhere, you're going to find some proof.
Let's see what they come up with that is legally actionable.
Which is a different standard and that's what we have to look at.
We're at least now have quality lawyers on our team looking out for our interests and I think we need more of that and it needs to be done every place we've seen the sketchiness of the Dems going into this.
So you're making a fair point and we need to deliver and actually have the intestinal fortitude to dig into those places and to find the rot and rip it out.
I'm Jim Hanson.
We'll be back after the break talking to the Patriot Act Mobile Action Network.
They did some good things this election.
Let's give them some credit.
Back after the break.
All right.
Controlled opposition.
Just the moment he started, the questions he was asking in the tone of voice, I knew he was hostile.
Mr. Hanson, allow me to interrogate you for a moment.
You look kind of sketchy in that hat.
Were you in the military?
Were you actually in the military?
What did you do in the military?
I was a JAG lawyer.
I used to tell people that I was an airborne oboe player.
That's gotta be a first, though.
Has anyone ever called you Controlled Opposition before?
You know, no, that's fun.
I like it.
I might adopt it.
I'll put it in my Twitter bio.
I mean, there legit is Controlled Opposition on the right, no question, but you of all people?
Seriously, I mean, maybe he's never run into me anywhere except for this one time on the radio, but it doesn't take 10 seconds in my Twitter feed and you're like, he's out of control.
That is not control.
Whatever, he may be Opposition, but it ain't control.
It's like the Groybers who approached you and Seb at CPAC, like they had no idea who you guys were.
Oh god, that was funny.
And the year before, I actually, the first time in Florida, Fuentes and his guys tried to march in without masks, and then they were outside calling everybody gay and chanting a bunch of stuff, and I was just heckling them and filming, and it was just so much fun.
That crowd really is something.
He's lost, like, all of his own support, by the way.
They've turned on him over the last year.
You know, little wannabe Hitler toads.
It's class.
Not even a decent frog.
The frog people I'm cool with.
The Pepe.
Oh, yeah, you know, I mean, that's fun.
That's where Bast came from.
Bast came out of the, you know, that whole, yeah, that whole 4chan alt-right before it became stupid.
Ah, boy.
Mr. Hanson, member of the Controlled Opposition.
That was unreal.
Ryan called back and he said that you're Antifa.
Ah, alright.
Alrighty.
I don't think so.
Well, I am, actually.
I am 100% anti-fascist.
Legit.
Real anti-fascist.
Anti-fascist and anti-communist.
I'm anti-totalitarian, anti-statist.
And I can prove it.
Ah, boy.
Where do these people come from, man?
I love it, though.
I mean, that's the fun stuff.
Go ahead.
If you want to call me something, don't just call me something stupid.
Call me something good.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, you know what?
I always said my favorite person who ever messed with me on Twitter was the guy who said, you know, because it's always, oh, Jim Henson.
You're the Muppets guy?
All right, Skype one.
Yeah.
But saying your video is not enabled.
Are you talking to me?
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You can kill the mics of the video feed, Alex.
Thank you.
It's Jim Hansen. - Well, hey folks, we want to spend a little time right now thanking some folks who helped us keep the house and helped make sure that conservatives won where they're supposed to.
And that's the good folks at Patriot Mobile Action.
And we're joined right now by Leigh Wambusganst, who is the Executive Director of Patriot Mobile Action.
Now, you guys did some good stuff for us in Texas.
And I like your Christmas tree.
I like the white one.
That's stylish and festive.
But let's celebrate that victory.
Tell us what it was.
So, we knew we had a big job ahead of us to save Tarrant County because, for example, in 2018, Cruz lost Tarrant County by a three-point loss, and in 2020, Trump lost Tarrant.
Won Texas, but lost Tarrant by just under one percent.
So, obviously, Tarrant was going in the wrong direction.
So, with all of the awakenings of conservative parents who have You know, thankful to COVID, realized what was going on in their schools and stepped up and started voting.
A lot of them got off of the couches and came back to vote.
So whereas the last two general elections, we lost the top of the ticket, we executed, worked very hard, were feet on the street, and Abbott won Tarrant by 4%.
So we went from In the last six years, top of the ticket, it's the first time we've won in Tarrant again.
We were still winning down ballot races, but we had lost the top of the ticket and we were losing steadily, slowly but surely, more and more ground.
So we feel like we're starting to claw that back here in Tarrant County, Texas.
Well, thank you for clawing that, and I hope that's something we can scale and move around.
Now, you mentioned the parents seeing what's going on in their kids.
I live in Virginia, and I can tell you we had a governor's race here where Terry McAuliffe, Clinton tool, you know, horrendously awful human being, was running against Glenn Youngkin.
And I was at a debate watching party at the big Crystal City Sports Pub, and everyone in the room Heard him say the one thing that took his campaign down.
He said parents should not have control of their kids education.
That should be left to the highly trained educrats.
And everybody's jaw dropped in the room.
And I think that's that's what happened.
Like you said, COVID.
Forced parents to see the things that they weren't seeing before.
Do you think that that issue is, to me, the one that seems the least partisan and the most family and America oriented?
Is that just the one we should spread everywhere?
Absolutely.
I'll tell you whose jaw didn't drop when he said that, and that's the people who are behind this agenda, because they've known that for a long time, and that is their belief.
The bottom line with the diversity, equity, and inclusion, the most dangerous part of that philosophy is equity, because it dumbs down the curriculum and the education of our America's students.
And why would you want to dumb down America's students?
Because a population that's uneducated is a population that's easier to control.
So I wanna thank him for saying out loud what the liberals have been doing for literally decades.
And I think it's something, like you said, that once parents saw, you can't unsee it.
There's no amount of eye bleach that's gonna say, wait a minute, okay, why do we have to have a drag queen story hour?
Why are drag queens somehow essential to the education of my kid?
But even worse, when you mention that DEI, the diversity, equity, inclusion, the equity one is equality of outcome.
Equity sounds nice.
Oh, we should have equity.
But when it, when it becomes what they actually mean, they are going to game the system so that everyone's achievements are considered the same, regardless of what they actually achieved.
And that helps no one.
It hurts the high achievers and it doesn't help the low achievers to get a participation trophy they didn't earn.
So, I mean, again, I think that's a beautiful thing for parents to know.
Well, absolutely.
And it also takes away meritocracy, which is what America is always about.
You know, in our country, you can achieve anything if you work for it, but you should have to work for it.
And that is one of the basic tenets of our freedoms.
And so when you are indoctrinating these kids into these dangerous, delusionary processes and procedures, you are simply trying to raise a generation of robots.
And I think one of the worst things you can say to a mama bear is that's not your baby.
I think America and Texas and especially Tarrant County spoke loud and clear at the ballot in November.
Well, I want to congratulate Patriot Mobile Action for your get-out-the-vote work and the other things you did to raise those issues, because I think it's a winner for our team.
I think people understand that Hillary Clinton said it takes a village to raise a child, and while a village can help, that child is a It is the duty of the parents to ensure that the right things are taught and that kid learns the right things.
So thank you, Lee Wambasgance, who is Executive Director of Patriot Mobile Action.
Good work.
This is Jim Hanson.
We will be back with more America First Radio after the break, and I will give the Rumble Chat people and the Twitter poll people what they asked for, which is a little DJTRDS cage match action.
Thank you.
Thank you.
composing it in my mind.
The option as presented was, is the DJT DeSantis Conflict just for show?
No, it's the greatest show on Earth.
I flipped it.
You saw how I flipped it there?
Oh, man.
Is today Tuesday?
Uh, yes it is.
I'm pretty sure it's 2020.
What's tonight?
Uh, the announcement.
Oh, that's... Holy cow.
But it also... It doesn't feel like the midterms were just a week ago.
It feels like a month at least.
It feels like so much time has passed.
It is, uh... Yeah, I can't even... I think our sense of time has been stolen from us because that's the problem with chaos and kind of that emergency mentality.
is it accordions you know what i mean you get you get long stretches short stretches and you can't tell you no longer can uh accurately tell what we're doing so there's that jim i think you should talk about how to conduct information warfare okay That's a thing.
I do that.
I don't want to give away the secrets.
We probably won't talk about it on the radio.
The fun parts are secrets.
It's the Department of Dirty Tricks Department.
I don't mind telling you, but I just don't think we should announce the fun stuff.
That reminds me again of that Tom Glancy lecture I watched.
There was a part where he talked about riding Red October.
You know, he was talking to several, you know, guys in the military, you know, higher up, and like, okay, you know, what's information now that is a little too close to reality for you guys to include?
And they were like, and he eventually said, alright, just tell me what in the book is classified information, and it's gone.
And the guy says, I'm not gonna tell you what it is, you dumbass, it's classified.
Right?
That's funny.
He was a lot funnier than people give him credit for.
Audio?
Oh, sorry.
There we go.
I came out of my own headphone.
If I can't hear myself, I'm not talking, right?
We lost him way too early, man.
When I heard the first time he died, I was like, God, really?
I know, and after that, you know, all the garbage they've done since then is so formulaic.
I watched the first season of the Amazon series with John Krasinski and it was alright, but then I stopped watching the second season like a couple episodes in.
I can already tell everything exactly that's going to happen this season.
And they woked it.
They're like, oh, let's flip this country and make the good guys the bad guys and the bad guys the good guys because woke?
The dictator is supposed to be Bolsonaro, right?
And his opponent is a feminist, you know, professor.
Come on, people.
Such a joke.
So bad.
They piss me off.
30.
All right.
All right, yep, 30 seconds.
All right.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, glad to be back.
It's been a lively show.
Now we're going to do the delivery for one of the fun things I like to do.
We do in the first hour, we ask the folks in the Rumble Chat to come up with some topics that they want me to do an unplanned freestyle rant on.
And they get pretty lively.
There's some interesting ones.
Second hour, we put it in the Twitter poll on Seb's account and it gets voted on.
And then during the third hour, the five o'clock hour, I give a rant.
So today, the question in question, is the Ron DeSantis, Donald J. Trump kerfluffle a show?
And I think most absolutely 100% it is a show and it is the greatest show on earth because we have a wonderful opportunity here.
All right, I'm going to go ahead first and make sure nobody has any doubt about my support for Donald Trump.
I backed him both elections.
I think he actually fairly can be given credit for saving our republic.
by beating Hillary Clinton.
Had she put three Supreme Court justices in, we would be living in a different time and place, and it would not be a good one.
So I don't think whatever else happened, whatever else you want to say good, bad, or indifferent around him, that alone puts him in the pantheon of great presidents because we now, we got the Roe v. Wade overturned, we got another great Second Amendment ruling, and I would bet you money Sometime next year we're going to get racist admission policies banned at colleges.
So things are going the right way.
If we did not have that, we would be living in a woke world because the Constitution would have been shredded and it would have been replaced with a pile of woke dogma.
Trump did that.
He did that through force of will.
He did that over overwhelming attacks, unwarranted.
He had essentially a horrendous presidency because the left hated him that much.
OK, so and all of that.
And I think now we have a situation where we need to decide something different, though, not whether Trump deserved a better presidency or whether he was the right guy in 2020.
We need to decide who can win in 2024.
And that's all that matters.
That's the only thing that matters.
Donald Trump getting a chance at redemption doesn't matter.
Donald Trump getting an opportunity to burn all of the swamp down kind of matters.
All right, that one might be there.
But the real question is, he can win the nomination.
I think he is the runaway favorite right now, regardless of the polls right after DeSantis' big win.
I think those matter, but I don't think, you know, obviously right after it, everybody's going to go, oh, he's the savior.
No.
He's a really good governor, though, and he is every bit as hardcore MAGA and America First as Donald Trump is.
He's a different guy, though, and he is a competent executive.
He's done things in Florida that all of us have wanted to do other places, and he just went and did them.
He hired the right people, he put them in places, and that's a weakness of President Trump.
He hired the wrong people and they did stupid things.
So I think there's a reason we have a primary system.
We don't do coronations.
We don't do dynasties, although we did a little bit of bushing, which was stupid.
So we now sit at the point where between those two, we're going to have a fairly protracted year plus long cage match.
And I don't think DeSantis is going to climb in the cage until it seems inevitable.
But I'll tell you why I think he has to run.
He will run because he's flying too high now and it's too dangerous for him to say, well, I'll just wait four years plus and hope nothing bad happens.
Hope maybe I can do some more good.
But I mean, if you think about it, what are the odds he's going to be in that much better a position In this chaotic world that he can afford to risk something bad happening, a scandal, you know, it could just be an economic downturn that he can't control.
It could be another virus.
You know, there's a million things that could go wrong and knock him off his pedestal.
So he's at his high point and you just can't.
Chris Christie, that giant donut eating machine, you know, missed his opportunity to run when he was flying high as a governor.
I think everyone has pointed out to DeSantis, your time is now.
So we're going to have, at some point, those two and a bunch of little miniature Muppets, kind of like the chirping little Muppets, and then we'll have the giant Kermit and Miss Piggy battle, whoever they want to be, for the nomination.
And I think that's good.
Because we have to make a case.
Both those guys have to make a case as to why they can beat any Democrat.
We don't know who it'll be.
I don't think it's going to be Biden, but that would be great.
I don't think it's going to be Kamala, but that would be awesome.
I think it's going to be Gavin Newsom.
And the problem with him is even though he's destroyed California, he's destroyed it in a way that makes the left happy.
So they like what he's doing, even though it's crushing them.
And he's got executive style hair, and he's a really good politician.
So we need someone who can beat him.
That's what matters.
And we need someone who's got coattails.
We need someone who will drive turnout on our team.
And not drive turnout for the other team.
So there's strengths and weaknesses of both of those guys in that situation.
And let's have the cage match.
You know, let's have a 24 round, I don't know how many months we've got, battle where those two have the chance to prove that they're the one who can do it.
Because if you look at what happened, we lost governorships, or we now have Democrat governors in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
We also have a Democrat governor in Arizona, assuming nothing changes there.
Those were pivotal states.
We at least got Georgia.
We got Kemp in Georgia, but we've got the Rust Belt states, the Upper Midwest, which is vital.
You got to have one or two of those at a minimum, and we're going to get no good changes in their voting rules.
The Dems don't want to change the rules.
They know how to harvest and cheat.
That's their game.
We'll play the game better, but that's not enough to overcome what lost us all the races that we lost here.
And that was not just ballot harvesting.
It was the fact that we did not have candidates that the voters wanted more than the other side.
So we did better in the popular vote, which is amazing, during a House race, but we did not take back the Senate and we lost too many governorships.
So let's have a DJT-RDS extended battle royale and let the best man win.
I'll back either one of them.
I would happily back either one of them to the hilt.
But that's what's going to happen, and I think we should all appreciate it, participate in it, be ready for it, and be 100% prepared to use every second between now and Election Day 2024 to make our team stronger.
Go ahead and get the book.
Get based so you can be strong, because that's going to help.
And let's win.
Let's win in 2024.
I'm Jim Hanson.
Thanks for the chance to talk to you.
No, it's over.
I'm sorry.
I have to leave now.
We'll tune to live feed of Trump's announcement.
Oh wait, that's not for several hours.
Hold on, what do we got?
What can we put on?
This is a super short segment.
You can talk about cheeseburgers.
I'm gonna talk about cheeseburgers.
We'll talk about cheeseburgers and dry aging steak.
Alright.
I gotta find some American Wagyu.
That's what I wanna do.
I'm trying to convince my wife that when my daughter and her fiance move back, then they're going to move to Seattle.
That's where they are living and have been living.
They're moving back from London and I want to get a cattle ranch right in the foothills of the Cascades right there so that we can bring the kids out so we can keep our house here and do what we do and then go out there for vacations and stuff and hire somebody to run it and grow American Wagyu cattle.
It's not the most American thing ever, like cattle ranch.
I want a cattle ranch and it's not Yellowstone.
I wanted this long before Yellowstone.
My family actually did polled Herefords for a long time in Nebraska.
My dad and my grandfather had some tremendous farmland.
He was a John Deere dealer, biggest John Deere dealer in eastern Nebraska for a long time.
And we had bottom land on the Missouri River and grew corn, soybeans and ran polled Herefords.
So I mean, I come by it naturally.
But I just want I since I dry aged steak, you know, why not have my own cows?
That is great.
I like how you had to throw the disclaimer that it's not because of Yellowstone.
Like, I'm not just a trend rider.
Like, no, I've never seen it.
Bandwagon jumpers.
Oh, well, I'm a rancher.
Shut up.
Even my parents watch it.
And Jeff watches it.
I'm just sitting here like, yeah, I don't watch it.
I watch it because I wait to see what that crazy redheaded chick does next.
Because she's an awesome psycho.
She's a good character.
Oh, brilliant character.
I may watch it if I get the chance.
I finished watching Deadwood and I watched the movie too.
Deadwood's so good.
God.
I feel like the movie could have been three hours and I would have been fine with that.
I think the movie left a little bit that it could have.
Yeah, no.
That's one of those shows I didn't want to end.
I just finished watching Rome again.
That was so good.
That's just so good.
Another John Milius joint.
And that's just one of the best series.
Titus Pullo is one of the greatest characters in American history.
He is.
Even though he was a Roman.
He was an American Roman.
Ray Stevenson does not get enough credit.
Oh, God, that was fun.
And he needed Varinus.
Otherwise, he's no fun as a character.
He was my favorite character, yeah.
Yeah, he's a more interesting character.
Right.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
Alright, well since I kind of prematurely almost ended the show in that segment, I'm going to stick around and actually do the final segment.
And one of the topics that came up as a runner-up to Trump-DeSantis battle royale was, what's the best hamburger joint, cheeseburger joint?
And the answer is five guys.
You know, what a burger, in and out, shut up.
Those are secondary things.
Right now, the king of fat burgers is five guys.
But I'm going to segue off that, and I talked about having steaks at Kurt Schlichter's, and what they did is they cut the cap off a ribeye, and I thought it was a New York strip, and I just am sad about that.
I actually dry age My own beef.
So I've got a dry aging fridge.
It's like a big wine fridge and it's got a UV light and it's got fans and it's got water.
And so it does controls the humidity, very precise temperature control and you just throw the big chunks of meat in there and then 30 to 45 or we're up to, I'm going to try a 60 day.
I got one sitting at 52 days right now and I'm going to hit that at 60 and see how it tastes.
The thing is it makes the meat brilliant.
All right.
So you've had, if you've been to a great steakhouse, you've had dry aged steaks, but you can do it yourself.
You can, you can do it in your own fridge.
If you take a lot of precautions, you can build it.
But I think one of the things that is, it's hard for me to think of a more American thing than actually taking care of your own steaks.
So I want to go a step farther and I want to ranch now.
So I'm trying to convince my wife.
So I want you guys to help me.
So everybody send my wife messages or don't.
And I want a cattle ranch in Washington State, near where my daughter's going to be raising our grandkids someday.
And I want American Wagyu cattle.
I want that big marbled beef.
And that's going to be the greatest burger.
Because if I get the whole cow, right, we've got the prime steaks and all that, but then you got the rest of the cow turns into burger.
So when we get to... Did you see how I did that?
Did you see how I flipped it back on itself?
And now I'm actually talking about the topic I said I would.
The best burgers in the world will be the burger meat that I make out of my American Wagyu cattle at Hanson Ranch in western Washington in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains.
We'll probably kill elk and mule deer and other things up there too.
So at some point you may or may not be seeing the Uncle Jimbo branded thing because my daughter, this is the same daughter who bought me a brand for steaks so that now when I cook steaks at the house I put the brand into the hot coals and get it hot and then brand each steak with my initials.
So this is vital information for you.
I don't know why.
Mostly because I mistakenly thought we were out of time.
And also because I don't know anybody who doesn't think it's fun to talk about steaks.
So there you go.
There's my feelings on the best burgers in the world.
Make your own.
Hey, That would be based if you made your own.
Raise your cattle.
I might slaughter myself.
I might do the processing.
I'm definitely going to cook them.
And I'm going to hope that all of you caught at least a little something about how to bring yourself into the election and something how about how to improve your own life and get it based because all of us got a long slog ahead of us and we're going to take this back.
We're going to win.
We're not going to lose those woke idiots.
I'll see you guys next time.
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