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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: President Trump launches his presidential campaign

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	Ladies and gentlemen, distinguished guests, and my fellow citizens, America's comeback starts right now.
	One of the biggest cheers last night at Mar-a-Lago, where the president did what we told you he was going to do, announce his candidacy for The presidency once more in 2024.
	I was there.
	I was invited to go back.
	We were there last week with Mr. G to watch the midterm election results roll in.
	It was very different yesterday.
	Last week, maybe a couple of hundred people waiting to see the president, eat the little pigs in a blanket and the coconut shrimp.
	Yesterday, no food.
	But about a thousand people in the ballroom and the media.
	I was down there.
	It was absolutely incredible.
	Electric, one of his best speeches.
	We have multiple cuts for you.
	Standing ovations for moments like that.
	America reborn.
	Celebration in the pride of our nation.
	When Melania came on stage at the end, it was quite, quite an event.
	But I want to share with you my thoughts that I've been cogitating on, on the way down and on the way back.
	I wrote a long piece, it hasn't been published anywhere yet, but you're the most important part of what I do here every day, so I want to share it with you.
	Put the last eight days into perspective.
	So let's start with what happened last week.
	Where did the red wave disappear?
	First thing we have to note is the experts were wrong.
	Even the Democrats were worried.
	You remember the cut we played you of Nancy Pelosi with Andrea Mitchell?
	And Andrea Mitchell raises this polling from the New York Times that the Democrats are going to get trounced last Tuesday.
	And Pelosi says, oh no, no, no, it's not happening.
	We're going to do fine.
	Even the left believed the pollsters.
	So from now on, let's just ban the word experts from our vocabulary.
	Because there aren't any when it comes to polling and to many other things.
	Why?
	Well, for many reasons.
	Robert Kahlili on this show has discussed the concept of submerged voters, people who simply will not telepolster how they're voting, especially in an age of cancel culture.
	If you're a Trump supporter, why would you telepolster who you vote for?
	And then on top of that, in an age of early voting, the models just don't work.
	When you have 50 days, 50 days of voting in states like Pennsylvania, Half of the state have voted before even the first debate!
	And they're not going to be reflected in your polls.
	So, number one, ignore the experts.
	Second, and I don't know if it's Mark Levin, we played Jesse Waters on the show who used the phrase, the GOP has to understand this reality.
	We don't need to win elections anymore.
	I've coined the term the anti-election.
	Last Tuesday was the anti-election.
	It wasn't an election.
	Because an election is what?
	You listen to the candidates and then you go to the polling station and in the little booth you mark off who you think would be the better senator, congressman, governor, what have you and then you put your vote into the box or into the scanner.
	We don't do that anymore.
	And I know Republicans and Conservatives like to have chain of custody and we like to go to the polling station Make our mark on the ballot, not mail it off, not give it to a ballot harvester, but put it in the box ourselves!
	But that's all gone, that's ancient history!
	Thanks to COVID, thanks to Nancy, thanks to the likes of Mark Elias who rigged the last election, we have states that have weeks and weeks and weeks of voting, that permit ballot harvesting, that go to old people's homes and collect hundreds of ballots at any one time.
	So the phrase that I think Levin or somebody else came up with is that it's not about votes anymore, it's about ballots.
	And we must internalize that.
	We need to win that fight.
	Not elections.
	We have to win the ballot collection exercise.
	Which means organization.
	And can we just put blame where blame is due right now?
	People are trying to blame President Trump for last Tuesday.
	Since when is it a former president's duty to run Senate or House elections or gubernatorial elections?
	Since when is it his job to apportion PAC funding to candidates?
	He has a PAC and he can give money to candidates if he likes and he can campaign on their behalf and he has campaigned so many times over the last year for people he likes.
	But that's because he likes them!
	Guess who's responsible for Congressional elections and Senate elections?
	Oh, it's the RNC!
	Oh, it's Mitch McConnell!
	Oh, it's Kevin McCarthy!
	Now McCarthy can say, yeah, I got Nancy fired.
	Not by much, but let's give Kevin his due.
	Why 31 congressmen voted against him last night as we were in Mar-a-Lago for Speaker of the House, Is interesting, and we're going to have a congressman on the show in the second hour to unpack that for us.
	But who decides about candidates and about funding for Senate races?
	It's Mitch McConnell!
	Who is meant to organize congressional elections, get lawyers ready to do battle in court if something suspicious happens?
	Oh, and who's responsible for, uh, making sure That the polling stations have the requisite number of printer cartridges on election day like they didn't have in Arizona.
	Yes, that's you, Rona Romney McDaniel.
	So let's apportion blame where it is meant to be apportioned.
	As for the alleged tensions between the governor of Florida and my old boss, President Trump, It's a pseudo-war.
	There is no war between them.
	And let's be clear, Ron DeSantis wouldn't be governor without President Trump.
	He was losing until he asked for President Trump's assistance.
	And Ron DeSantis, who's been a great governor in Florida, has been great because he's taken the MAGA model, the America First, Make America Great Again model, and shrunk it down to the Florida state level.
	Get government out of the way.
	Take on the media headfirst.
	Ban CRT.
	It's all Trumpian.
	And now you want to jenison the person who built the model?
	I don't know.
	Ron DeSantis may be a good president.
	I have no idea.
	Why?
	Because he's never been a president.
	Guess what?
	Donald Trump has been a president.
	Doesn't matter what area you choose, the economy, national security, the border.
	He's demonstrated it!
	$2 a gallon gas, 1.8% inflation, lowest unemployment since the 1960s, ISIS crush, the border closed down.
	That's on the record.
	Ron hasn't done that, but he could learn.
	He could be a member of a Trump cabinet.
	He could even maybe learn about foreign policy in a Trump cabinet.
	Or maybe even be the Attorney General.
	The bottom line is they want you to believe there is a war inside the GOP.
	President Trump didn't even mention Ron yesterday.
	He congratulated Florida, which is great.
	But Ron, I've got a message for you.
	Don't let yourself be used by the Rhino and Republican establishment as a weapon.
	Work together, because those two names... Oh, and what if we cleaned up our elections across America?
	I could think of somebody who'd be a great candidate for that.
	How about Carrie Lake?
	I'm going to text her that idea.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We've only just begun.
	The number here is 833-33 Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Call us.
	Sound off.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Call us.
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	Make sure you don't miss our very special one-on-one this afternoon.
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	3 minutes 45.
	Can you go through 10-11?
	I have a plea for the Republicans and advice.
	If you embrace MAGA, you're gonna keep losing.
	You're gonna lose more.
	The embrace of MAGNA in 2018, 2020, and 22 didn't work.
	Cause Schumer helps us out.
	Yeah, he always.
	He's always so helpful to us.
	He wants it to be fair.
	Did you have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters inside the Capitol in January?
	Who is that, Jeff?
	Clay Higgins, right?
	He's on the show.
	Again, I had to be very careful.
	It should be a no.
	Can you not tell the American people no?
	We did not have confidential human sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside the Capitol in January.
	Gentlemen's time has expired.
	You should not read anything into my decision not to share information.
	Director Wray, gentlemen's time has expired.
	Alright, Skype one.
	Want the mics off?
	Yes.
	Mike's off him.
	It's a job for every aspiring young person and every hard-working parent, for every entrepreneur and underappreciated police officer who is ready to shout for safety in America.
	The police are being treated so badly.
	These are great people.
	They can straighten out the crime.
	They're the ones that know how to do it.
	we have to give them back their respect and their dignity.
	This will not be my campaign.
	This will be our campaign all together.
	Another massive cheer from the room last night in Mar-a-Lago when the president said, it's really not about me.
	This isn't my campaign that I'm launching tonight.
	It's about you.
	Yeah, it's about our nation and the survival of our nation.
	Dear friends, if you have one, I see the call board is lighting up.
	If you want to sound off your reaction to last night's announcement, The number is 833-33-GORKA.
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	On Sunday night, Newsmax premiered an amazing documentary.
	I'd been interviewed for it here in the studio by Jack Smith and Mandy Del Rio, and I had no idea what it was going to be like, but my gosh, was it powerful.
	It's called Shame of a Nation, and it's about the fate of those who have been targeted after January 6th.
	And perhaps the most powerful interview of all, is with the lady who's now gracing us with her presence.
	Her name is Geri Perner and her nephew was embroiled in the events of January the 6th and I welcome her to our show today.
	Thank you for having me.
	So, Miss Perna, would you talk about Matthew, your nephew, what he was accused of doing, the original charge that was raised against him, and then how it was elevated by the Department of Justice?
	Well, originally, Matt was charged with misdemeanors, you know, the regular misdemeanors that all the J6ers have been charged with, trespassing, disorderly conduct, or raiding.
	And it seemed like that was just going to be a slap on the wrist and that was going to be the end of it.
	And then a couple weeks after that, that's when the DOJ came back and they charged 240 J6ers with the felony charge of obstruction of Congress.
	And we had video evidence showing that Matt was not in the building during the session.
	It was after, it was about 48 minutes after it had already adjourned.
	So there was nothing going on in Congress that he could have interrupted anyway.
	Exactly.
	And that was my point.
	And his attorney shot it down and said, nope, it won't matter.
	They're not going to even look at that.
	And they didn't.
	Now this is a young man who was working abroad.
	He was helping other people.
	Found out his, was it his mother, was sick with cancer.
	Came home to minister to her.
	Lovely young man.
	Let's put Matthew's picture up again, Eric.
	And then what happened?
	They had these terrorist enhancements as well they were threatening him with.
	They wanted him to do a plea deal.
	Tell us what happened to your nephew as the Department of Justice started to ratchet their manufactured case against him higher and higher.
	Well, he had an attorney that he had hired and they tried having, you know, they tried several times to get the felony charge dropped considering that Matthew I'd never even had a parking ticket prior to this.
	He was 37 years old and never committed any type of crime whatsoever.
	He was hardworking, you know, he made a good living.
	He did travel abroad.
	He came home when his mom was sick with leukemia to help take care of her.
	And she inevitably died due to a hospital error.
	And Matt decided to stay in Pennsylvania and support his dad.
	through this grief and make a life for himself there.
	And when they came back with the felony charge, Matt grew increasingly anxious and his hearings were constantly postponed and delayed.
	It added to his anxiety something awful.
	And when it got down to the point where they realized that the DOJ simply was not going to offer him a deal of any kind, he told his attorney, That for his mental health, he just needed this to be over with as quickly as possible.
	So his attorney encouraged him to plead guilty, which was not something I was in agreement with.
	But Matt was just deteriorating in front of us.
	And so he pled guilty on December 21st, and his hearing for sentencing was going to be on the anniversary of his mother's death.
	Which I don't believe was a coincidence.
	And Matt had a very bad feeling about it.
	And his attorney confirmed his feelings when he told him that the DOJ was trying to add a sentencing enhancement of terrorism, which would have taken his six to 12 month expected sentence to five to six years in a federal prison.
	And the three days before he was to meet with his attorney, Matt hung himself in his garage.
	I want everyone listening right now to keep this man in your prayers.
	The souls of Matthew Poehner and those who have lost their lives since January the 6th or on January 6th like Ashley Babbitt.
	And I want you to write something down for me.
	RememberingMattPoehner.com Go there right now.
	Let's celebrate this man.
	Let's support the memory of this individual who is one of the true victims of January 6th, not some putative assault on democracy, but a young man who needn't, who shouldn't have died, who was politically persecuted, who was targeted, who was arraigned for a terrorist enhancement of his misdemeanor charge and his obstruction of justice charge.
	On the anniversary of his mother's death.
	I want to thank you, Miss Perner, Gerry Perner, for appearing in our friend's documentary and for putting your face to this story that Matthew can no longer tell.
	You are a courageous woman.
	I want to thank you.
	And please, everybody right now, write this down.
	Remembering Matt Perna.
	P-E-R-N-A dot com.
	We have political prisoners in America right now, and we have people who have been killed by this regime for political purposes.
	Matthew Perna is one of those victims.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First.
	I want you to sound off on the news of the day, your reactions to that story, yesterday's news as well.
	The number is 833-33-GORKA.
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	The number is 833-33-33-33.
	The number is 833-33-33.
	Thus far.
	Um... JV... Monologue, and that's it.
	Hang on, I need to... You need to make a, um... I got the pictures of the shirt.
	Yeah, but the poll is up on our website.
	Oh.
	You want a buffer of that?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Oh, yep, there it is.
	Okay.
	Where is it?
	It's on the homepage under the, um...
	Right next to the description of the broadcast.
	Yeah, my phone, I don't see it.
	Alright, just make a, um... Working on it now, yeah.
	Where the flip is it?
	It's a little lower down.
	Maybe it might not show up on mobile.
	I'm only looking at it on my computer.
	Oh, here it is.
	Okay, good.
	Alright.
	Alright, make the buffer.
	Tell me when it's ready.
	Yeah, working on it now.
	Uh, titles?
	Um... Last, uh... Doctor G, uh...
	Dr. G's visit to Mar-a-Lago for the President's Announcement.
	tomorrow I'll go for the presence announcement all right Perna um he He died because, an innocent man died because of January 6th and the DOJ.
	JV?
	Oh, I don't know.
	No, I'm 20 seconds.
	I'm 20 seconds.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	I should have asked the president for another liner yesterday.
	Jeff, can you work out, can you write down or just text me some liners that I can keep on my phone so when I see the boss I can just, like, ask him to record them on my iPhone?
	That's a good idea.
	Don't you think?
	I should have him, like, ready to roll, like, you know, when we're saying hi to him.
	You could have done it!
	You saw him last week!
	He came up and shook your hand, didn't he?
	I wasn't thinking of that, then.
	What?
	Mr. G, is there a moment when you're not thinking about our show?
	It was a little loud in there.
	It was, it was, it was, it was.
	Alright, we're going to get to your calls in a second.
	833-333-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	But first things first, Mike Lindell, he's a great friend of the President's.
	He was there last night.
	I saw him the second I came in.
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	Brent in Arkansas, line one.
	Yes, Dr. Gorka.
	Hello?
	Yes, you're up.
	The reason I'm calling you is you're a truth teller.
	So I have one question.
	Other than purposes of cheating, why can Florida, with 21.5 million people, Get their election results in in a day, whereas Colorado was 5.8, Arizona was 7.3 million, and Nevada was 3.1 million.
	Take over a week.
	Can you give me an answer on that?
	I can, I can.
	Some people think I've been bashing Ron DeSantis of late, that is incorrect and I will prove it right now because Ron DeSantis saw what happened in 2020 and he came in, he was elected governor with the help of my former boss President Trump and he cleaned up Florida!
	Florida doesn't have any of the shenanigans, the post-dated, post-marked, the election harvesting, the drop boxes.
	It's because one man got some lawyers, got a team together, built it and fixed it.
	That's why Brent.
	Okay, how can we get the situation straightened out in the states that are obviously not counting the ballot ballots or the absentee ballots until after Everybody else has voted, so they don't have much to cheat.
	How do we stop that?
	So it's what I said in my monologue, I believe.
	So where we can change it, where we have a GOP with the requisite testicular fortitude, we fix it.
	We ban all of this garbage, the 50 days of voting in Pennsylvania, all of these Dropbox issues, the privatization of elections.
	Where we have a strong GOP that can fix it, where we hold the statehouse, the legislature, we bring new legislation.
	In those states where we can't, where the Dems or the RINOs are too weak, we fix it on the ground.
	We, sadly, and as a conservative, it pains me to say this, Brent, we have to out-harvest the bad guys.
	It's that simple.
	Well, thank you very much, Dr. Gorka.
	I appreciate your answer.
	Absolutely.
	God bless.
	Thank you, Brendan Hawkins.
	So let's go to Minneapolis, Line 2.
	Darren, welcome to America First.
	Hello, Dr. Simone.
	How are you doing today?
	Good.
	Well, I wanted to call in regarding you had said, you know, what was your emotion from last night with Trump announcing his running for 2024-1.
	I thought for sure he probably would do that anyway.
	Yeah.
	But incredibly ecstatic.
	I think one, I agree with you 100%.
	If ballot harvesting is out there, make use of it to whatever extent we have to.
	Anybody has to.
	And two, whatever this ridiculous feud the media is trying to make between Trump and DeSantis, one, I think the two of them should get together, form an alliance.
	DeSantis should run with Trump, unbeatable.
	And then DeSantis can take 28 and 32.
	That would be my dream come true.
	And there's a beautiful way they can demonstrate it right now and just, you know, pop that balloon of the fake news feud between them if they together.
	Could you imagine what would happen, Darren, if they together on the same platform campaigned for Hershel Walker in Georgia?
	My gosh.
	My gosh.
	What an incredible ticket.
	Guys, are you listening?
	Hey, Mar-a-Lago!
	Hey Florida!
	Pay attention!
	Governor's Mansion!
	Go to Georgia with President Trump and you would be an unbeatable ticket because we need that extra seat in the Senate.
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	This is American First.
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	What did Hanson do in here?
	There's like chewing gum on my table.
	Uh, that's a good question.
	Oh hey, it appears we have Solomon on the line now.
	Hey guys, how are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	Did you watch the president's speech?
	I did indeed.
	Alright, we're gonna have some fun with the mainstream media's coverage of that.
	You sent me a story, I reposted... What was that?
	That was yesterday.
	My favorite one is the one about Obama and Bush joining the Biden disinformation army.
	Oh my gosh!
	Yeah, but can we also talk about the GIPA strategy?
	Oh sure, absolutely.
	That's on the weekend, but absolutely can.
	Okay, right.
	Gipper, response to Mar-a-Lago, and then the Bush.
	Are they doing it separately?
	Yeah, they're two separate events, one day apart.
	So, Obama gave us Russia Collusion and the false story of Fast and Furious, and Bush gave us WMD, but they now want to be the arbiters of truth.
	Incredible, incredible.
	We need to talk offline about Something I heard about you and fundraising, and I'd like to pick your brains about that.
	When is good for you?
	Are you like busy till... When are you busy till?
	Once I get off air.
	I'm pre-recording the show tonight 5 to 6, so if you could call me like around 6.15.
	Yeah, I'll do that.
	I'll be in the car headed to a speech.
	Okay, nice.
	Who are you speaking for?
	Republican Party of whatever the county is in Hagerstown.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, so...
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	For the first time in memory, China was reeling and back on its heels.
	You've never seen that before.
	Because the United States was outdoing them on every single front and China was paying billions and billions of dollars in taxes and tariffs.
	The farmers know that because they got 28 billion of it.
	No president had ever sought or received one dollar for our country from China until I came along and we were getting hundreds of billions of dollars.
	Many people think that because of this, China played a very active role in the 2020 election.
	Just saying, just saying.
	I'm sure that didn't happen.
	Got a few chuckles last night when the president said, China!
	Could they be messing in our elections?
	Well, I think mailing out 80 million ballots because of the Wu flu, COVID, is of course a factor.
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	So how did the media react to the hour-long speech yesterday?
	I was in the room listening to it.
	Strange representations in the mainstream media.
	Let's ask a guy who has nothing to do with the MSM anymore because he believes in real journalism.
	Good friend.
	From justthenews.com, the founder, the editor-in-chief, John Solomon.
	John, did you watch the whole speech?
	I did indeed.
	I was sitting here with our team as we were covering it, and I really got to watch every bit of it, yeah.
	So do you agree with the Washington Post and CNN that it was a low-energy speech?
	No, listen, I think he wanted to strike a presidential tone.
	We're all, after a lot of the emotion of the election, I think he wanted to say, hey, the Donald Trump that's cerebral, the Donald Trump that's policy-oriented, the Donald Trump that's fighting for you, the Donald Trump that has policy solutions, not rhetoric, doesn't hide in his basement, is this guy.
	And so let's have an honest Living room conversation, and I think the tone was exactly what the living room conversation is.
	I mean, they get mad when Donald Trump's energetic and angry, and they get mad when he's not energetic and angry, because they act like the DNC opposition research team.
	I'll tell you something amazing I was doing last night.
	I did this kind of for my own edification.
	When I used to be an APY reporter and we'd watch a debate or we'd watch a thing, we'd have the opposition research departments of the RNC and the DNC and we'd be looking at them to just see what the spin was on each, you know, moment in the debate.
	And that was just a good way to get both sides, get a 360 view.
	Last night I was watching the New York Times running coverage of the debate.
	And I swear to God, it looked just like the DNC's opposition research feed.
	It just had one silly, crazy, stupid thing after another.
	And if you're an average reader and you're watching it, you're like, oh my God, they're not even watching this.
	They had something they pre-wrote and they're just putting it out now.
	The New York Times, the CNNs of the world, they don't realize what they look like now to everyday Americans.
	You don't even have to like Donald Trump to appreciate that the New York Times yesterday was running a political party, not a political coverage.
	And I think that's what frustrates Americans.
	It's why the mainstream media has become so less relevant.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's why we have things like justthenews.com, guys.
	You've got to bookmark it, you've got to follow this man, Jay Solomon reports.
	Catch him every night at 6pm on Real America's Voice.
	John, you did something a little bit different the other weekend and you sent me a link to an article you wrote about the Gipper effect or the Gipper strategy for conservatism in America.
	Talk to us about why you felt you had to write that and what your message was.
	So I watched the coverage in the days after the election and it seemed like the instant reaction among conservatives and Republicans, and quite frankly even some Democrats, was skewed from the facts.
	It was driven out of emotion and not out of what the actual reporting that I was seeing was going on.
	So I went around and I interviewed 30 people.
	Some were Democrats, some were independents, some were conservatives.
	All of them are strategists, right?
	Their job is to help people win elections or to message political messaging.
	I said, I think the reaction to what went on in this election is disconnected to the facts, right?
	There's facts, and then there's people interpreting it, and they're missing each other.
	And to a T, they're like, you're 100% right, John.
	The Republicans won the popular vote.
	The Republicans brought more Latinos and African Americans over than they had ever done before.
	The Republicans won the married man vote.
	The Republicans won the unmarried man vote.
	The Republicans won the married Women vote.
	They lost the unmarried woman by 70% and they lost the under 35 vote.
	And so it isn't gloom and doom.
	The dials need to be adjusted.
	And after I took all the feedback, I realized that's exactly what Ronald Reagan did after he lost the convention in 1976 to Gerald Ford.
	Everybody thought he was going to win it.
	He lost the process, right?
	He got beaten by the process.
	By the way, Paul Manafort, who would later go work for Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, he was helping Ford win the convention.
	He understood the process better than Reagan's people.
	They got beat.
	Everybody said to Ronald Reagan, nice try.
	You had two governor runs, two presidential runs.
	You're done.
	No one's going to be talking about a 16-year, 9-year-old candidate.
	And he said, I beg to differ.
	And he sat down and he studied and he realized, oh, I wasn't losing by a lot.
	I adjust the dial here.
	I adjust the dial here.
	I consider something unthinkable, like George Bush and I could potentially run together.
	That was what my monologue was on today.
	took the Gipper strategy of 1976-77, applied it to today, and then gave the advice that these 30 people gave me.
	And they came up with six ideas for Donald Trump, for the Republican Party, to adjust.
	And by the way, some of the Democrats have some good ideas of how the Republicans can win, starting with, you got to play the absentee ballot game.
	If it's legal, you can't unilaterally-- That was what my monologue was on today, was exactly on that issue.
	All right, we've got less than a minute left.
	I'm going to repost that Gipper Strategy article, but you had a very ironic piece of news concerning Obama and George W. Bush.
	Would you share this thing with us?
	It sounds like it's an SNL skit.
	It is.
	It's ripped out of SNL.
	SNL probably do it this weekend.
	George Bush gave us the fake NWMD story.
	Barack Obama gave us the fake Fast and Furious and Russia collusion story.
	And he gave us the collusion story after being warned it wasn't true.
	Now they want to be the arbiters of disinformation.
	They're joining the Joe Biden disinformation army.
	They're having disinformation conferences this week.
	It's hysterical to think the two presidents who had their own problems with truth now suddenly think they can get on the disinformation bandwagon.
	It's bad for speech.
	It's bad for Republicans.
	It's bad for Democrats.
	But they're doing it anyways.
	Wow, he's such a pro.
	He actually brought it in.
	Exactly hit the post.
	What a pro.
	That's why you need to read his book as well.
	It's Fallout, Nuclear Bribes of Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dynasties.
	He's John Solomon.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Anything in mind for Joe and Victoria?
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	Something about personnel, or is that a little too wonky?
	Maybe something about Giuliani.
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	First, you gotta start by getting rid of McDaniel, and also, um...
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	McConnell.
	They should have been gone long ago.
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	Number two, they've got to close the border, three cut taxes, and four, basically what they have to do is have an actual budget, which we haven't had for about two decades now.
	I know.
	You're absolutely right.
	Love those four.
	That has to be the minimum.
	You're a better communicator than Kevin McCarthy.
	Don't be such a stranger, Jerry from New Jersey.
	Let's go to California.
	David, line four.
	Welcome, David.
	Oh, thank you.
	Listen, I enjoyed your opening monologue as well as President Trump's speech last night was spot on.
	What I believe in my heart, and I could be wrong, we have an epidemic of the heart.
	There are so many black, it's turned black, our hearts are not right.
	And here's the problem.
	It's assassinated common sense.
	It's no longer what you look like.
	We need to understand that we're children of God.
	No matter what happens in the end, all these people with this in their heart, it will get on them.
	You're absolutely right.
	It's the assassination of common sense.
	Beautifully put, David.
	Let's squeeze in one more line to Alice, Ohio.
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	I vote for Carrie Lake to be vice president with Donald Trump.
	She has experience with the media, which is our enemy.
	And between the two of them, I think they could handle that.
	And Mr. DeSantis, he should continue to strengthen Florida and prepare himself to follow Donald Trump's next presidency.
	You don't think he should be in the cabinet, in the Trump cabinet, maybe Attorney General?
	Possibly, possibly.
	No problem there.
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	Marksville.
	Hey.
	Oh.
	Hi, Jim.
	Hi, how are ya?
	Doing well.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	Nearly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	How's it going over there?
	Everybody good?
	Hi, Jen.
	How's it going?
	Hi.
	Good, Eric.
	How are you?
	Doing all right.
	Long time no talk.
	I know.
	It feels like days, actually, to be honest.
	Again, time just feels so slow after last Tuesday.
	I know.
	It's too much.
	Can you turn that up a bit, Alex?
	Her, so we can hear her.
	You can turn the mics on to the video feed if you want.
	Jen, yeah.
	We'll be good.
	Don't worry.
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Hello, Jen?
	Hi, can you hear me?
	Alex, or you can turn, oh yeah, hang on, I gotta turn it up.
	There we go.
	Okay, so yeah, we got mics on.
	520 Bowling.
	Bowling?
	Oh, he was there.
	Sorry about that, go ahead, Jen.
	I said he was there, he was at the big announcement.
	Bowling was?
	I thought I saw a picture.
	Ask them if they're ready for Skype.
	Do you guys want Skype?
	I'm okay if you don't, because I look terrible today.
	It is badly windy.
	It's up to you if you want Skype.
	If you don't want Skype, we can just use a picture of you.
	That's alright.
	We can do it.
	You can tell me.
	Are they ready for it, though?
	Are you ready for it?
	It was not answering.
	I guess that was the problem.
	Let's scope out Schmidt's show tomorrow.
	Are you there?
	Uh, Geoff, he's talking to you.
	Can you hear me?
	I don't have sound from anybody.
	Go ahead.
	Hello?
	Can you hear us?
	I don't hear anybody.
	Hey, Alex.
	Alex, why did you not hear us?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Hello, sub now?
	Now?
	Did you hear me, Geoff?
	No, I didn't.
	Go ahead.
	Before you leave today, let's just dope out some guests for Schmidt's show.
	Alright.
	Jennifer Horne!
	Dr. Sebastian Gorka, what a good night!
	What a great night!
	I'm just going to read your text out on air that you sent about Ron DeSantis.
	You don't mind, right?
	No, of course not!
	And I'm sorry I'm extra casual today and windblown.
	I look like a disaster.
	Oh, I see you on Skype.
	It's like a third-world country here.
	Every stoplight is out.
	I mean, it's because of the wind.
	Have they never had wind in California before?
	You were here.
	Nobody knows how to keep the power grid turned on.
	The Santa Ana winds, right, Jen?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	My dad's been without power at his house since 7 a.m.
	We just got power back at CRN.
	Thankfully, Glendale, it was pretty tame there, so we didn't have any problems at the station today.
	Unbelievable.
	And then we could talk about those sheriffs that got... I saw you tweeting about it.
	That's, I think... Yes, it's up to 25.
	It seems very intentional, but they have not said that yet.
	Okay.
	Will you come in with cut 7, please?
	Come in with cut 7.
	No liner, Alex.
	No liner.
	All right.
	She's on Skype, but we're coming with a video cut, guy.
	35 seconds.
	She's on Skippy.
	Skippy, yes.
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	Ready.
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	The End It's a job for every aspiring young person and every hard-working parent, for every entrepreneur and underappreciated police officer who is ready to shout for safety in America.
	The police are being treated so badly.
	These are great people.
	They can straighten out the crime.
	They're the ones that know how to do it.
	we have to give them back their respect and their dignity.
	This will not be my campaign.
	This will be our campaign all together.
	One of the sterling moments for me last night was that line.
	It's the antithesis.
	It's the polar opposite.
	Remember what Hillary said?
	Her campaign motto?
	I'm with her.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	In America, we don't do that.
	This isn't a cult of personality.
	You don't swear allegiance to a person.
	And President Trump, yes.
	There's so many, so many moments to celebrate.
	But when he said, it's not my campaign.
	It's our campaign.
	And right afterwards he said, to restore government of the people by the people.
	You know what's just as fun as being in Mar-a-Lago with a thousand patriots listening to President Trump?
	It's getting really fun texts from Jennifer Horne as you're having fun in Mar-a-Lago.
	And she's with us right now, our West Coast warrior princess!
	I think you're in a rather good mood today, are you not, Jen?
	I am such in a good mood last night.
	Well, all day today.
	But last night I was working and we carried the president's speech.
	On AM 870 and AM 590 in Los Angeles, and I did some commentary afterwards.
	And I can't tell you, it wasn't my usual crew.
	So some of the engineers that were working, they don't know.
	Not as good as the crew that you had on Monday when you were guest hosting for me, right?
	Definitely not.
	Oh, please, never.
	There's no comparison.
	But what made me laugh is that I'm sitting in the room going, yes, yes!
	And I'm like actually shouting back at the television.
	It was such an amazing speech last night, and I had to text with you because I knew you were there.
	And I saw this gentleman wearing like a brick wall suit, and I thought, wow, that is fashion.
	Only at Mar-a-Lago.
	He's called Brick Suit.
	He is at every stinking rally the president goes.
	He's amazing.
	And I finally, finally got a selfie with him.
	He's called Mr. Brick Suit.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	So, you know, it's just, it was incredible to see, but I actually took notes during the speech.
	Oh, that's it.
	I'm done.
	Jeff is spying on me.
	He's got, he's got a web camera somewhere.
	He's looking at me.
	I have just opened my notes app on my phone.
	Looking at my notes from yesterday, and I was about to read them to you, and she just says, oh, I was taking notes.
	I'm telling you.
	Are you my flipping twin from another mother?
	Yeah, brothers and sisters from another mister or something like that.
	We must be.
	I don't know.
	I think we're connected.
	But I took notes during that whole speech.
	And I thought to myself.
	Let's compare notes.
	Shall we?
	Let's do it.
	Shall we?
	Absolutely.
	Yes.
	You begin.
	Ladies first.
	So I loved, and he came in and he started with his accomplishments first, which I thought set a positive tone from the beginning.
	And the fact that he talked about ISIS, which we haven't been able to talk about in so long, about the economy, about energy independence, about crime, about all of these things that he was able to do for the country, I thought that was absolutely the right move.
	And then to take his time to go through and talk about where we are now, the $86 billion in equipment left behind, Yes.
	in Afghanistan.
	The fact that fentanyl is going across the border and was brave enough to use the I word when it comes to the border and talked about the invasion. - Yes. - Incredible.
	I loved the fact that he didn't announce until 20 minutes in after he had a chance to create that AB switch, which I talk about all the time when we think about a Trump versus Biden or insert the Democrat.
	Here are four years under Trump.
	Here are four years under Democrat rule.
	What is better?
	And he created that A-B switch before he even announced his candidacy.
	And the fact that he said we can make America glorious and great again said that's his rosy optimism.
	He believes that America is the solution and we need to get back to the policies that make us great.
	I just thought the beginning part of that speech just hit it.
	And I wrote down What you wrote down that this is our campaign, not my campaign for all of those never Trumpers that says that this is just about Trump's ego.
	This was he talked about black Americans.
	He talked about Latino Americans.
	He went through and said that we're going to unify in success.
	You may not.
	Maybe he's not everybody's cup of tea, but he's going to unify us all by the success that we have.
	And that's something that he started in 2016.
	Which he carries on today and I love that.
	How can you hate someone who is trying to make everyone more prosperous, everyone safer, everyone in a better spot than we are today.
	So that were just a few of the notes at the beginning of the speech.
	How about you?
	Explain what that, you said AB switch, what does that mean?
	So I don't know if you okay, I guess I don't even know if it's a science term.
	My dad used to always talk about it like in radio, they would have like the A B switch, you know, you test A against B A B A B. And so I've always thought that when you had the reason Trump was the best candidate or is the best candidate for me is that you have in our minds in recent history, four years of what President Trump was able to deliver under duress, mind you, compared to two years of Biden, how we can handle two more years, I don't know.
	But you're going to be able to say, do you like column A or do you like column B better?
	And I really think that's sort of what he set up last night.
	Here's what I've what I've delivered.
	Here's where we are today.
	Where do you stand?
	A or B?
	It makes it really easy.
	It takes personality out of it.
	It's all about the output of administrations.
	And that's what we need to be focusing on.
	All right, let's do a little cliff notes.
	I've got my notes here that I did.
	We can just alternate through them.
	So this will not be my campaign.
	It will be your campaign.
	This is our country, our country.
	And I love this one because he didn't talk about Ron DeSantis or any kind of garbage fake pseudo war.
	He said, I will ensure and this is breaking news, by the way, I got to share with you guys.
	Mitch McConnell has just been reelected.
	As the GOP leader of the Senate, the guy who brought us those results last week for the Senate races, and there are reports from the White House, this is a doozy, that they are planning for a Biden 2024 campaign Please!
	I hope those reports are true because this is the next line.
	I will ensure Biden doesn't get four more years because Americans cannot take four more years, Jen.
	I wrote that down too and that we are in a place where we can be great but we have to dig ourselves out of the ditch and I think that's how we all feel right now.
	We feel like we are stuck in this ditch and we had good stuff happening if he had only been afforded four more years You can think about where we are.
	And this is a job that I think Trump is uniquely ready to go and do.
	He can jump right into work.
	He knows how to fix the problems.
	He doesn't have to get his feet wet for two years.
	He, just based on what he's already done for four years, deserves another chance at this.
	And I am so happy to see him back in the campaign.
	And I was energized.
	I had some people, I don't want to name names, but my partner, Grant Stinchfield, said he talked too long.
	It was one of his shortest flipping speeches.
	It was 60 minutes long.
	At a rally, he goes for 100 minutes.
	Can you just deal with your junior host, please?
	I'm trying.
	Every minute, I was ready for him to go longer.
	And then at the end, so after he goes through what he's done, what Biden has done, what he plans to do again, And by the way, all you had to have in the backdrop is Russia and Ukraine and the missiles going into Poland.
	I mean, our world was peaceful when President Trump was president because of his strength.
	And even that little bit of just not knowing where he was going to go because he's unpredictable.
	And having that in world leaders' heads is important.
	But towards the end, he talks again about those issues that so many Republicans are too afraid to bring up.
	And I'm not saying all, but when he talks about... No, no, no, no.
	Hang on.
	Hang on.
	Let's save it because we got so much more to discuss.
	Sorry, I'm so excited.
	We have a brand new thing on.
	We've been working on it on our website.
	It is right up there right now.
	Put the image up on the screen.
	You can get it on your phone.
	You can get it on your computer.
	So you go to SebGorker.com and we've got a question for you.
	We've got three million people.
	That's a real poll.
	The average poll is less than a thousand people.
	Here's the question and it goes to what we've been talking about with Jen now for the last nine minutes.
	Did President Trump's speech last night change your mind about wanting Ron DeSantis to run in 2024?
	I really want to know.
	I really want to know, because they've ginned up this fake garbage, but it has triggered people, and I want you to tell me what you actually think about President Trump's performance last night.
	So it's very easy, but only answer the question.
	If you didn't see the speech, If you didn't hear the speech, I'm really not interested in your input.
	I need you to be honest that you saw the speech, all of it, not just our amazing excerpts, of course, just now, but if you saw the whole speech, if you watched it live or later this morning, I want you to answer the question, based upon his performance, did President Trump's speech last night change your mind about wanting Ron DeSantis to run in 2024?
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	Okay, you got one more vote. - you got one more vote. - I saw you feverishly, feverishly.
	Yep, you got one more.
	You were excited yesterday!
	Oh my god, I was so excited yesterday.
	And excited today.
	I feel great.
	I can't wait for four more years.
	I was missing Trump.
	And not only that, how flipping fun is the next two years going to be?
	Oh, it's great.
	And people are going to start to lose it once he catches on.
	Can you imagine what the Lincoln Project for the next two years?
	Yes, all those pedo protectors.
	We're going to have so much fun with the pedo boys.
	I listen to, oh God, what was I listening to?
	Was it Morning Joe?
	Yeah.
	I always, in the morning, I love to get myself fired up for the show because I listen on satellite to Morning Joe and CNN.
	What?
	I like to hear what they're talking about.
	And so, is George Conway on CNN or MSNBC?
	Jeff?
	I don't know.
	But George comes out.
	George Conway, what's he on?
	What do you mean, what's he on?
	Crack.
	No, I'm just kidding.
	MSNBC.
	CNN or MSNBC.
	A little skinnier.
	MSNBC mostly.
	So he was on this morning and he was talking about how Trump just, he doesn't want to really be president.
	He's just trying to avoid the indictments.
	And then Mika gets on there going, oh, well, I don't know how anything he could have said would appeal to anybody but the fringe of the party.
	It's like, were you listening?
	This is exactly the stuff that appeals to the middle of the country that got him elected the first time, lady.
	Bingo.
	It's just great.
	The fact that he talked about the parents and the sports and the voting.
	And just that one moment where he stepped away from the podium and he said, we're going to restore, and he put his hand on his heart, we're going to restore pride in America.
	It was like, wow.
	And I just, look, I don't know.
	I just feel like I have a good judge and a good read of character.
	You would know this.
	I don't think he needs this.
	Oh my gosh!
	I wish I did a whole monologue on the speech to open the show and I didn't even discuss this point.
	I mean, just, you know, I'm loyal to him because, you know, he was loyal to me.
	Right.
	But what the hell does he need this for?
	To do this again?
	To do this again to himself?
	To his family, to himself.
	He doesn't need this.
	He didn't need it the first time.
	I just really think he believes in the country so much and he thinks he knows how he can fix it.
	And he's willing to do anything to do it.
	Despite the millions he's literally spent fighting off, you know, the DOJ.
	And he even jokes about it.
	He even jokes about it.
	As I said, I had a very nice life before being president.
	It's true, though.
	I mean, the fact that people think that this is somehow anything more than, I think, truly something altruistic for him to do something right.
	Like I said, I don't know him, but it's just my gut instinct.
	Ready for some more bad news?
	One, two, off of the McConnell whammy, Jeff says, Senate just voted to legalize gay marriage 62 to 37.
	Shut up!
	Yep, 12 GOP senators.
	Come on!
	Senate to legalize gay marriage?
	What does that mean?
	Repeal the Defense of Marriage Act that was passed under Bill Clinton, basically codify gay marriage into law.
	It's so dumb though, the Supreme Court already came out.
	This is just to get 37 Republicans on record.
	Oh my god.
	Sure enough, look at that.
	Yep.
	Come in with cop 4.
	Cut four.
	Cut four.
	Now we have a president who falls asleep at global conferences. .
	was held in contempt by the British Parliament over Afghanistan.
	Thanks to the words of wisdom he said thank you to the wrong country for inviting him to a major summit on the environment of all things.
	They fly for days to get there and then he calls the country a name that was actually a country on another continent.
	And he's leading us to the brink of nuclear war, a concept unimaginable just two short years ago.
	You cannot mention the nuclear word.
	It's too devastating.
	The Green New Deal and the environment, which they say may affect us in 300 years, is all that is talked about.
	And yet nuclear weapons, which would destroy the world immediately, are never even discussed as a major threat.
	Can you imagine?
	A great combination of seriousness, humor, looking forward, celebrating America.
	I think we've already posted the whole speech on our social media feeds.
	If you missed it, you've got to see the whole speech, please.
	It's historic.
	Look.
	Whatever you think right now, it is historic because he announced, he's the first person to announce, and now it begins.
	Now it begins.
	I need to know also what you think after last night about Ron DeSantis running and President Trump running.
	So go to our webpage SebGawker.com and answer our survey question right now because you are the most important part of the show.
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	The question is, did President Trump's speech last night change your mind?
	About wanting Ron DeSantis to run in 2024.
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	Or Trump 24, DeSantis 28?
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	We are back with Jennifer Horne, who was covering For me, on Monday, as I was off doing my secret television project.
	If you want to know a little bit more about it, I'm going to be posting some photographs from the studio later today.
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	We were talking in the break.
	Let's share this with not just our Rumble crew, but with the three million listening.
	There's an aspect of support for President Trump, and I don't get mushy here because I'll ruin my rep, but it's not just about the policies and making a rational political decision.
	My God, his commitment to this nation.
	And he said it yesterday.
	He said, I was living a very happy life before I was president.
	I don't need to do this again.
	The only reason, because he's losing money.
	He's being attacked constantly.
	He's paying millions in legal fees because the DOJ is coming after him.
	Southern district of New York.
	Jen, I want to support a man who's doing this because he loves America.
	Why is that wrong?
	Yeah, I think that people get it really wrong with him.
	And I have never just, I mean, I've had dinner in the same room with President Trump and DeMar Lago, never met him and spent a lot of time with him.
	But I'm telling you that the gut instinct that I have with him is that he doesn't need to do this.
	I think that, yes, he has a big ego like everyone else in politics and everybody else that runs big businesses.
	But I don't think he's running and I don't think he ran before to feed that.
	What I think is that he really believes that this country can be great.
	He sees the potential in America.
	He loves the country and he knows that he can lead us in the right direction.
	And I really believe that he is running for all the right reasons.
	This is not for a book deal.
	This is not to become a television producer like the Obamas.
	This is because he really believes that he can make a difference.
	And I'm all on board.
	And as far as Ron DeSantis goes, and I know we're going to get to this, I really think so much of what's been going on is a construct of the mainstream media and these never Trumpers who would like nothing more than to blow Trump out of the water because they're afraid of the backbone that he has.
	We haven't heard Ron DeSantis say that he is going to run for president yet.
	He may.
	He's got a lot of wind in his sails right now.
	He had a great night a couple of weeks ago.
	I don't think it's his time.
	I hope that he doesn't run.
	I think it does more damage to the party, and by the way, to him ultimately, if he tries to get into this race right now.
	I wrote to you last night in a text message.
	That speech was good enough to make Ron DeSantis go scurrying back to the governor's office.
	Oh, I didn't even think that!
	I was joking about sharing that text with our listeners, but that's what she said to me as I'm standing there at Mar-a-Lago.
	She said Ron DeSantis is going to go scurrying back to his house.
	There's also one more thing here.
	Guys, I'm not bashing DeSantis.
	I'm making an observation.
	I love him.
	I want to vote for him in four years.
	But here's my thing.
	There's an issue of probity and honor here.
	There's an issue of probity and honor here.
	If somebody's talking about, if the mainstream media and even conservatives were floating openly, Seb Gorka has to replace Hannity, or Sebastian Gorka has to replace my buddy, Dan Bongino.
	If they did that for a year incessantly, I would feel beholden upon me as an act of honor to comment, to say, no, I love Dan, or yes, Sean should be pushed off his pedestal.
	Why has Ron not said anything for six months, Jan?
	And I think that that's what needs to happen.
	He needs to come out and say, you know, all of this talk, it's enough.
	I want to be governor in Florida for four years.
	And I don't have any intention of tearing down Ron DeSantis.
	I think that he is really good.
	He is he is a star on our bench.
	And I think we need to be looking at our strengths as a party and realize that President Trump is the way forward for four years.
	And Ron DeSantis is the way forward for eight years after that.
	And if they work together instead of splitting apart, We will have a lot of power.
	That's the winning combination, is if they can actually work together.
	All right.
	One last thing I have to mention.
	I didn't even get to mention in my monologue because I wanted three hours of monologue today, but I'll be hosting Rob Schmidt's show tomorrow night live on Newsmax.
	You've got to tune in for that.
	He declared war.
	I mean, he declared war on the swamp.
	He said, ban congressmen and senators for life from being lobbyists and no corrupt profiteering on the stock market with insider information you get on Capitol Hill.
	They're going to have to destroy him, Jen.
	After what he did for Americans last night with those two promises, they have to destroy him, correct?
	I think so, especially when it comes to how these Congress people are enriching themselves.
	And this is a shot to Democrats and Republicans, by the way.
	You look at the wealth that gets accumulated by these people who use their positions to create a good situation for their family.
	I mean, look at the Biden family.
	Joe Biden himself has done this sort of thing.
	It's time to stop.
	It's time to have people who really want to serve this country in office.
	And if President Trump can give some power to it, whether it can happen or not immediately, is, I think, really important.
	You know how desperate these people are?
	Jeff just sent me a poll from something called Interactive Polls.
	Never heard of them in my life.
	And they said, head-to-head in a primary, Ron DeSantis would get 47% of the vote and Donald Trump 43%.
	Yeah, you look a little bit deeper.
	Asking 300 people doesn't really count.
	That's not a survey.
	I have just one thing to say, my dear.
	I wish more conservatives had the spine you have.
	Because we're talking about big stuff openly and honestly.
	We're not hiding it.
	We're speaking the truth about President Trump, DeSantis and the next two years.
	God bless you.
	Keep doing what you do and thank you for Covering for me on Monday.
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	I watched Wonder Woman this weekend.
	But hang on, the first season in World War II or the second season in the 1970s?
	I think it was the 70s.
	It's on MTV or something.
	I completely forgot the first season was the original setting in World War II.
	That's right.
	I know.
	I think this was the 70s for sure.
	I watched a little bit of it while I was putting up my Christmas tree this weekend.
	You did what?
	I put up my Christmas tree this weekend.
	You did what?
	You're joking, right?
	No, I had to because this weekend, my dad's birthday party is happening, which I'm giving.
	Next weekend is Thanksgiving.
	Then the following weekend, my mom gets her surgery.
	And so I thought, if I don't get it up this weekend, it's probably not going to happen.
	So Christmas came early at the Old Coffee.
	Send me a photograph.
	Oh, it's gorgeous.
	I will.
	And you'll see the Wonder Woman ornament on the tree that our listener gave us because of the theme.
	Is it, is it classic Wonder Woman?
	Yes, it's cool.
	No, it's the, it's a classic Linda Carter.
	I'll send you a picture of that tonight.
	I'll go home and snap one.
	All right.
	Take care.
	I will talk to you guys later.
	Thanks.
	Thanks.
	Okay.
	Bye-bye.
	MAGA, or what does he say?
	Make it glorious again.
	Make it, make it glorious again.
	All righty.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Yeah.
	Of the 12 Republicans, three of them are literally on their way out right now, next year.
	Had it not been for them, it wouldn't have passed without a filibuster.
	Welcome all 1,700 of you viewers.
	Come in with cut 10.
	Come in with cut 10.
	No liner, Alex.
	No liner.
	title for horn the truth about the scientists versus president from We're doing PhD here or D?
	We'll do it here.
	That's a C segment.
	All right, what do you want to say?
	Okay, let's cut let's cut to it.
	any seconds.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	25 seconds. 25
	seconds.
	25 seconds.
	I have a plea for the Republicans and advice.
	If you embrace MAGA, you're going to keep losing.
	You're going to lose more.
	The embrace of MAGNA in 2018, 2020, and 2022 didn't work.
	Oh, Chuck Schumer giving Republicans advice.
	Oh, he must really want to help.
	Eric, don't you think that Chuck Schumer is always out to help us Republicans?
	He has nothing but the Republican Party's best interests at heart at all times, clearly.
	We must do what Chucky tells us to do.
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	Mick Mulvaney is a swamp creature.
	He's scum.
	He actually served in the Trump administration.
	You won't believe what he just said.
	Cut 9.
	CNN!
	Do you think this is good for the Republican Party?
	No, I don't because I think he's the only Republican who could lose.
	If he wins in 2024, now he's a candidate.
	He is the likely Republican nominee.
	Can he be beaten head-to-head by Ron DeSantis or Tim Scott?
	Sure, but it's not going to be a head-to-head race.
	There'll be five or six other people in the race, and he'll get the 35% that really support him.
	and under the winner-take-all primary system, he'll be the nominee.
	But that means the 2024 race is not about Joe Biden or whatever Democrat is on the ticket, not about inflation, not about world events, not about abortion.
	It'll be about Donald Trump, the same thing we saw in 2020.
	Mick Mulvaney, you're a man without honor.
	He's the only man who could lose the election.
	I've The only Republican.
	Yeah, because Mitt Romney, yeah, he'd definitely win, right?
	You served in that administration.
	You are a dishonorable man.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Victor, Chicago, line one.
	Hello, Mr. Gorka.
	It's a pleasure.
	I just wanted to comment on a Trump dissent.
	It's gotta be Trump, and there's two reasons.
	One, Trump is the only president in our history that's done, that's kept every promise.
	He didn't do just one or two things.
	He did everything he campaigned on.
	The only president or world leader in history to do that.
	So, anyone that doesn't want him to be president, they're a Democrat.
	Two, DeSantis, there's no way DeSantis could take the pressure that Trump took with the media, with the deep state, with his own party, I mean, and the foreign interest.
	I just, I don't believe, I believe over time DeSantis will take some backdoor deals and enrich himself just like most of the Republican Party and Democrats do currently.
	Trump doesn't do that.
	Trump needs no one's money, he doesn't want the power, and like you said, he truly loves this country.
	DeSantis needs to come out ASAP for the good of the country and for the good of the party and recognize that Trump had over 100 million to 120 million votes last election if you take away the election fraud.
	He won Illinois.
	He won New York.
	He won California.
	All those states.
	You take away the election fraud?
	He won all the states!
	Yeah, I don't know if it's 120 million, but I know something.
	There's no way the senile old git in the basement got 81 million.
	You're telling me he got more votes in the first black president?
	Absolutely outrageous.
	But you're right, he has proven himself.
	President Trump has proven himself.
	Let's go to Dan, Minnesota, line two.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Yes, go ahead.
	You know, one thing that frustrates me is I wish we were able to get a grip on how many Votes were manufactured by the Democrats when they stole the election in 2020.
	I think that would be helpful to have.
	Well, what's 2,000 mules?
	I mean, we do the math in 2,000 mules, at least in those areas that we examined.
	But carry on.
	All right.
	So that's one factor.
	And then I'd really like to get your opinion on what is your sense of the 16 to 17 year olds who will be voting for the first time in 2024?
	And factoring that in and also factoring in the fact that most people who are old, who are dying unfortunately, probably went towards President Trump in 2020.
	Yeah, I don't think anybody can tell you how somebody's going to vote right now who's 16 two years in the future because they're not exactly very Politically cognizant.
	What we do know from last week is the plus D, a massive plus 28 points for the 18 to 28 year olds.
	So yes, we have a problem with indoctrinated, ideologically brainwashed young people in America.
	But that's because we have just sacrificed the culture.
	We weren't serious about the culture.
	Great calls!
	Absolutely superb.
	How did Kevin McCarthy get 31 votes against him yesterday?
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	We will fight for your rights to eat beef, well done or otherwise.
	Dear friends, one of the people who got a standing ovation last night, in addition to Melania Trump, who looked so happy, so radiant.
	If you haven't seen my pictures of her from Mar-a-Lago last night, you need to follow me.
	On all social media except the fascistic YouTube.
	So make sure you're following me on President Trump's Truth Social, on Twitter, on Facebook, on Instagram, on Substack.
	Let's put those links up there guys.
	All of the links where you need to find me.
	Clout Hub, Parlour, you name it.
	I think he got more subpoenas than any man in the history of our country.
	was the president's son who was sitting in the front row, and he recognized him, and he stood up.
	The people gave him a standing ovation for a very good reason.
	Cut three.
	Play cut.
	I think he got more subpoenas than any man in the history of our country.
	So unfair.
	Al Capone.
	You all heard of the great gangster?
	Al Capone got far less.
	Billy the Kid got almost none.
	Jesse James, no.
	Eric Trump got more subpoenas.
	He's a PhD in subpoenas.
	They come from Congress.
	And I appreciate the job you do and the abuse that you've taken.
	I really do.
	Well, that family has put up with and now they're prepared to do it again.
	God bless them.
	I traveled down, commercial airing coach, with Congressman Troy Nells.
	I saw him at the airport and then bumped into Madison Cawthorn, Congressman Cawthorn, and we hung out with each other.
	I got a ride from Madison down to Mar-a-Lago.
	And in the car, we were getting all kinds of updates, or they were, from their colleagues on Capitol Hill.
	Strange things going on with Kevin McCarthy, and we're going to have an update of all the shenanigans right now with a new guest on the show from Montana's 2nd Congressional District, a man who served in the House of Representatives in Montana in the Senate.
	He has been the Senate Majority Leader, and we are delighted to have Congressman Matt Rosendale with us on America First.
	Welcome, Congressman.
	Dr. Gorka, it's good to be with you today.
	All right, so tell us, what was going on on Capitol Hill yesterday and today?
	And there's quite a few people who have the letter R after their name who do not want Kevin McCarthy to be the speaker, is that correct?
	That is correct.
	We cannot continue to put the same people in to lead this conference and use the same rules that they have been utilizing for the last several years and hope and pray that maybe we'll get a different outcome.
	Absolutely.
	Now one of the things I heard is that for an hour and a half Marjorie Taylor Greene was negotiating behind closed doors with Kevin McCarthy.
	Do you know anything about that?
	Because that disturbs me a little bit.
	That I cannot speak to.
	What I will tell you is I think that there's probably going to be a lot of discussions that take place over the next 40 days leading up to January the 3rd when Mr. McCarthy is going to have to try to accumulate 218 votes on the floor.
	He did not receive that yesterday.
	He didn't receive 200.
	I'm sure a lot of your listeners heard the quote from Representative Matt Gaetz yesterday.
	He didn't get 200.
	He didn't get 190.
	And so if you couldn't acquire 218 votes over the last year, Over the last six years, how is it that you expect to gather the additional 30 that you need over the next 40 days?
	All right.
	So talk to us about why what happened yesterday happened.
	So 31 congressmen and women voted for Andy Biggs as opposed to Kevin McCarthy.
	Another five voted for somebody else.
	So is there some commonality?
	Why do you and others have issues with the current leader?
	Sure, it's pretty simple.
	The conference feels, and there's a lot more people that feel this way, but they were reluctant yesterday to actually speak out until they saw that there was this movement.
	But they feel that each member has earned and deserves equal participation in the legislative process, which is only going to be returned to Congress with major rule changes.
	And so a group of us submitted in writing Dr. Gorka, a list of recommended amendments.
	Several months ago, which would restore regular order to the House and the ability for me and other members to fully represent their respective states as they deserve.
	Can you explain that?
	Because you're talking about things that most people have no idea about.
	What kind of changes do you have to see to the regular order for you to be able to do your job representing the people of your district in Montana?
	Can you give us an example?
	Sure, sure, to actually restore regular order.
	So I think it's important for people to understand what we're asking for is a return to the way the rules used to be, before all of this power was consolidated into the hand of the Speaker, And a very small group of people that the Speaker selects, which is known as the Rules Committee.
	Rules Committee make up of nine people, and they're the ones who designate which amendments will be allowed on any given piece of legislation, and the Speaker is the one who's going to dictate what bills are actually going to be brought out to the floor.
	Anyone who has served in a legislative body knows that's not how it works.
	Everyone should have the ability to amend.
	Every bill that has gone through the committee should be allowed to come to the floor for a vote.
	And Kevin has demonstrated he is not willing to make those changes and wants to maintain that status quo which consolidates power with him and that very small group of people.
	And Montanans and other representatives across this nation deserve better than that.
	Alright, so tell us what happens next.
	We've got 40 seconds left.
	We're talking to Congressman Matt Rosendale, Montana's 2nd District.
	You can follow him at RepRosendale on Twitter.
	That's RepRosendale.
	What are your predictions for the next couple of weeks, sir?
	There's a lot of people that are starting to reach out to the group of folks that voted against Kevin yesterday.
	They're trying to form a coalition government, if you will, and he's going to have to make some hard decisions about how he wants this to conclude on January the 3rd.
	Who would you like to see as Speaker of the House?
	Oh, I'm not going to put a target on anyone's back right now because it would not be fair to them, quite frankly.
	That would give another 40 days of someone to endure a lot of pressure that they may not be willing to take on at this point while they're just considering it.
	But I can tell you there's a group of us that are going to make sure that there are options.
	If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
	That's what I say.
	But I will respect your reticence right now.
	Thank you for coming on the show.
	Keep fighting for Montana and for all Americans.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Kevin McCarthy, can they stop Kevin McCarthy becoming speaker?
	Speaker.
	90 seconds.
	I mean, at the very least, he promised he'd put MTG back on our committees if he became speaker. - Yeah, but what is she doing behind closed doors That's, yeah, that's a good question.
	I don't know.
	Right?
	If on day one, he just, he does that and then shuts down the J6 committee on day one, that will already be an improvement, I think, but... What do you mean, shuts it down?
	I mean, he has the ability to do that, right?
	Once we have the majority... Well, it wouldn't exist.
	I mean, yeah, totally.
	Yeah.
	Just put an end to that now before they can... Shut what down?
	The J6 committee.
	No, they shouldn't.
	What do you mean?
	Keep it open and start calling them.
	Call Pelosi.
	But they'd have to change the membership.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	You can't have, you know, fake, you know, Republicans and then the rest are Dems.
	That's a good point, yeah.
	That's actually a really good idea.
	Why do you sound so surprised that Jeff is a good idea?
	That's really insulting.
	I mean, well, just the J6, I mean, all I wanted was to just see it gone, but now I'm like, oh yeah, maybe you could, like, you know, subpoena Ray Epps, perhaps?
	Who is Ray Epps?
	25 seconds.
	Wanna come in with anything else from Trump?
	Uh, just come in with, uh, Cut One again.
	Come in with Cut One again.
	No liner, Alex.
	Oh, no. no.
	I will immediately demand voter ID, same-day voting, and only paper ballots.
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	Waiting patiently in California.
	Sandy, line five.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Let me squeeze this all in real quick.
	First of all, I'm really sick about Carrie Lake not winning, and I think they cheated, as usual.
	Also, when people call in and they say that Biden won, they need to be corrected.
	Because he didn't win, he cheated.
	And when we lost the election, we lost our country.
	Now, when getting to Trump, he has got charisma like nobody else.
	Yes.
	When he walks in the room, it's just him.
	And for me, he makes me feel safe.
	I know that we're not going to have a war.
	I know he's going to be tough on everybody.
	DeSantis, yes, is good for Florida, but he doesn't have any foreign policy.
	He could not handle the foreign leaders like Trump does.
	And I think, I hope to God he doesn't run.
	I don't want a split vote.
	No, but he could be in the cabinet.
	Anything else?
	I've got to run quickly.
	He could be in the cabinet, and also I am happy that the evil Pelosi is gone.
	We fired her!
	Thank you, my dear.
	Joe in Illinois, welcome.
	Dr. G. Trump had a good speech last night, right to the point.
	I believe he needs a female running mate.
	I think he needs to speak directly But do we play identity politics, Joe?
	Is that who we are?
	their home heating prices, gasoline prices, and food prices.
	He needs to hammer on this to try to get these suburban moms back into the camp.
	But do we play identity politics, Joe?
	Is that who we are?
	Do we pick people based upon what sexual organs they have?
	We need suburban moms that used to be Republicans.
	But do suburban moms want to vote for women?
	Do most women want to vote for women?
	I think that, you know, a Kerry Lake or maybe even somebody that's pro-choice.
	Yeah, well, you lost me there.
	Killing babies should never be part of any Republican platform.
	Thank you, Joe.
	Goodbye.
	You lost me there.
	Next up, she's got a plan to defeat Marxists in America.
	My muse, the one and only former presidential appointee, Katie Gawker in studio.
	You gotta hear her plan.
	It's a doozy.
	It's a doozy.
	Are you ready? - Okay.
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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	All right, so Midas first one is Inflation Disaster 60.
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	Next one is 30.
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	All right.
	And...
	This is a 60 again and this is called... Oh, it's got the same title.
	Midas Gold Group.
	Are you sure these are four different ones?
	It's got the same title.
	Hmm.
	Alright.
	What's happening in America is frightening.
	The Biden regime has caused a record inflation.
	Crime is rampant and our borders are wide open to criminals and drug dealers.
	Sebastian Gorka here.
	Now, after the election, Biden says he isn't going to change a thing.
	Radical Democrats are even more emboldened.
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	You should call this one recession.
	All right?
	That last one.
	So Recession.
	Just to differentiate the names.
	And then the last one.
	Oh, sorry.
	No, here it is.
	It's the first line.
	So call the last one and this new 31.
	So the last 60 is What's Happening is Frightening is the title.
	OK?
	For both the 60 and now the 30.
	What's Happening is Frightening.
	Ready?
	What's happening in America is frightening.
	Sebastian Gawker here.
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	Welcome, dear friends, dear friends, to a very special episode.
	of America First one-on-one.
	I'm a little bit trepidatious.
	I better not get in trouble on this one.
	We have in studio none other than my boss, my muse, Katie Gawker.
	Katie, it's been a long time.
	Haven't seen you in a while.
	Husband, it's been at least 20 minutes.
	Oh, why are you ruining my cred instantly there?
	Although you have been on the road quite a bit lately, so it's nice to have you back in the swamp, at least with me.
	And we have perfect timing for this discussion because you launched something very special today at the Heritage Foundation.
	You've been working on it for I don't know, it feels like years, along with Mike Gonzalez.
	So what is the title of the report that you've launched?
	It's How Cultural Marxism Threatens the United States, and the most important part, because it's always the so what part, How Americans Can Fight It.
	So first things first, you and I, national security backgrounds, I've been teaching counterterrorism for almost 20 years.
	We had a company together.
	You specialized on the ideology of jihad as well.
	You rose up through the swamp to actually serve as a presidential appointee at the Department of Homeland Security.
	So, why this paper?
	We'll talk about why the timing, but you're an expert on external threats.
	Now you're looking inwards.
	So, give us the reason for this massive study.
	So it really came about because of my colleague Mike Gonzalez at the Heritage Foundation.
	Mike has been absolutely extraordinary these last three years.
	His focus and his expertise is really identity politics.
	Or undermining what the left calls identity politics.
	The truth about identity politics.
	Yes, right.
	The truth about... Like the book on BLM and everything else.
	Yes.
	And actually, his extraordinary work, which I think came out before the book on BLM, was a book where he really showed how we constructed this notion of Hispanic identity.
	I mean, before that, you know, people would come here and they would just want to become Americans.
	But the left created these identities.
	To the point at which there's a box you tick on a federal form.
	Exactly.
	And that's exactly one of the points he makes, and that's exactly one of the points we address in our paper, that we need to get rid of that.
	We want to be Americans.
	We don't want to be in our individual boxes.
	So, you know, Mike said to me one day, he's very good at analyzing the problem, but he doesn't know how to come up with a strategy to combat it.
	And I said, well, I happen to be married to One of the best strategists in the country.
	I have been studying at his side for the last 20 years.
	I can do the strategy!
	So we had this great collaboration, and this is the result.
	We're actually doing a whole book together, but we've pulled out this paper, which Heritage has just published today, and this is kind of a concise version of our book.
	All right, well, I'm so excited to talk about it because, as you know, it's really the strategies that matter.
	You've got to be able to diagnose a problem.
	You've got to have a plan to deal with it.
	So let's start at the beginning.
	You have to identify a threat.
	You have to be able to accurately label an enemy.
	We learnt this with the Long Telegram, with NSC-68.
	We've had this discussion at home for at least a year now.
	What do we call... It's not the Soviet Union on the outside.
	It's now an internal threat that is challenging in and of itself that it's inside America.
	But you have in the title here the phrase cultural Marxist.
	I know you popularize the phrase next-gen Marxists.
	Tell us why you're using this terminology and not just the left or something like that.
	Yeah, this is a super important question.
	So I think one of the reasons that the left has been able to get away with what it has is because it uses really nice, benign terms like, you know, political correctness or even wokeness.
	Those things just don't really sound all that threatening.
	Yeah, and we may disparage something as being woke, but does woke really sound all that threatening?
	Not really.
	But what Mike and I found is if you really dig into it and if you really look at the ideology that's driving the left, It is Marxism.
	Why does that matter?
	That matters because Marxism wants to take down our system.
	It doesn't want to just change the language we use.
	It doesn't just want to improve the environment.
	It actually wants to completely eradicate the free market and put control in the hands of the government and take it out of way from people.
	But I know a lot of people who don't You haven't read Karl Marx or don't live in the national security arena or haven't analyzed, you know, who actually founded BLM and why they call themselves quote-unquote trained Marxists.
	This isn't...
	It's easy to poo-poo this and say, well, hang on, this isn't nuclear missiles landing on New York, this isn't the Soviet Union, this isn't the revolution of 1917 with the Leninists on the barricade.
	This is a far more sophisticated and evolved version of Marxism, isn't it?
	Yes, it's different.
	So actually what the Marxists realized is that they are never going to bring about the kind of revolution that Marx wanted to see, where you have the proletariat rise up and overthrow the bourgeoisie.
	And suddenly take control.
	Yes.
	Because what they discovered was anybody that lives in an industrialized nation like the United States, they know that they have a shot at doing well.
	So they don't want to tear down the system, right?
	So one of the things we discovered, the whole notion of cultural Marxism is Let's go in.
	It's what Gramsci called the long march through the institutions.
	Let's go after the institutions.
	Let's change the culture, right?
	Let's not do a frontal assault, but let's subtly change the institutions, change the language.
	And what Mike and I found, I mean, we knew this, but, you know, we really mapped it out in the paper and in the course of the book.
	They did it through the universities.
	So there was a big change that came about in the 60s, really.
	There were a number of sort of leading thinkers who realized, actually, maybe the locus of revolutionary change can be intellectuals and students.
	And that's what we saw happen in the 1960s.
	We saw this extraordinary uprising of students.
	Those radical students became the professors, and they've radicalized the universities.
	So instead of going up against the man and ripping down the establishment, you basically take over the establishment from the inside, inveigle yourself into the establishment and then indoctrinate the next generation.
	Alright, we are six days since a midterm, so let me ask you why now?
	Why is this being published now?
	What's the relevance?
	Well, I mean, so we talk about several strategies, several things that we need to be doing to address this threat.
	And of course, the number one thing, as you said, anytime you want to go after a threat is you first have to identify it.
	You have to understand it.
	You second have to understand yourself.
	This is what's so important.
	You have to know, for example, the United States, because of what we believe in, because of our values, We cannot bring about our ideas through coercion, because then they're meaningless, right?
	And this was a great point that Paul Nitze made in NSC 68.
	Which was the plan to defeat the Soviet Union that was born in the Truman administration.
	Right.
	That if we are to remain America, we can't use undemocratic, anti-libertarian means.
	Yes, and that we have to use persuasion.
	Understanding yourself helps you understand what methods, what strategies can you use.
	One of the things that we recognize is going to be very important to winning this is it's got to be done locally.
	You know, if you think about the Cold War and how Reagan and Pope John II and Margaret Thatcher helped bring about the collapse of the Soviet Union, that was kind of a, you know, from the top.
	They all understood communism, and many Americans understood it was a threat, but I'm not sure how well people really understood what communism does, right?
	And this is what's happening now.
	Now, you know, parents, for example, are seeing what it means when teachers say parents don't have rights.
	Or that, you know, we're going to raise our children by a village, right?
	Or that teachers in schools can make decisions about the well-being of children and keep it a secret from parents.
	Which, by the way, is an original Marxist concept that the child belongs to the state, not to the family.
	Absolutely.
	And one of the goals of Marxism was to eradicate the nuclear family.
	And that's what we heard Black Lives Matter say.
	They want to eradicate the nuclear family.
	Actually, on their website, on Black Lives Matter's website, where they said they need to dismantle the traditional nuclear family until the Somebody realized and it was very quietly deleted.
	The event, the publication, the forthcoming book is How Cultural Marxism Threatens the United States and How Americans Can Fight It.
	We're talking to the co-author, Katie Gorka.
	Follow her at Gorka Katie.
	It's backwards for some reason.
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	All right, so we need to eventually get to the what do we do about it, but before we get to the new NSC-68, a couple of questions on what you learned as you were investigating it.
	And the first one is, how much of a challenge is it that this Marxist threat isn't in Moscow, isn't in Cuba, isn't in North Korea, but it's domestic.
	How much of a limitation is it on our means to respond?
	Because we can't use the US military, we can't use sanctions.
	How much of a challenge is this different location for the threat?
	Yeah, that's a great question.
	And I think it's a, you know, I don't think there's a straightforward answer to that.
	I mean, obviously we cannot arrest our way out of this.
	We have to, we have to argue our way out of this.
	We have to help more Americans understand exactly why this is so insidious.
	So, I mean, the easiest way to talk about it is what's happening in the universities, because I think so many parents have had that experience.
	Thank goodness we have not.
	But I know many, many parents have had the experience where, you know, they pay a fortune or they go into debt to send their children to a university or college only to have their kids come back after the first year, kind of hating the country and not wanting to talk to their parents.
	You know, we're letting the universities indoctrinate our children.
	We've got to wake up to this.
	And so, yeah, it is a really big problem.
	And you know, the other unfortunate thing is this has been going on long enough.
	That really, I think a good portion of our younger people have been indoctrinated into these ideas at universities.
	I mean, that's why we're seeing so many of our institutions kind of caught up in this.
	Just take one example, the Wall Street Journal, right?
	You have the editorial board, who is kind of the older generation.
	Then you have the news desk, which is the younger generation.
	There is a real ideological split between those two, right?
	So I think, honestly, I think we have a tremendous challenge on our hands.
	Tell us what you learned in this, what was it, almost a year of writing.
	What did you find that surprised you or gave you solace?
	Tell us some of the things that people will find in the paper.
	Oh, I don't know that anything gave me solace.
	I think just coming to understand it better.
	I mean, I think the whole the whole sort of development of ideas.
	I mean, it's really kind of shocking when you think about how much influence a small number of people can have with insidious ideas.
	Because this isn't a massive organization.
	This wasn't a huge, you know, nation-spanning.
	It was the Frankfurt School, a couple of professors here and there.
	It was Rudy Doichka, it was Markuza, it was Olinsky.
	So, just like the Russian Revolution was 20 guys in a boxcar that was, you know, sent to St.
	Petersburg, the power of ideas, if the small kernel of individuals, is really committed, correct?
	Correct.
	Exactly.
	And these ideas spread.
	And, you know, the problem is as well, if you step back from this, this is not just an American problem.
	This is actually, it's really the dilemma of humanity, right?
	Because we are all sort of grasping for that Millenarian solution.
	You know, we all want the comfort, the knowledge.
	We want the idea that we can get rid of injustice, right?
	Well, it's the idea that you can create paradise on earth.
	Yeah, or yes.
	But perfect humanity, perfect society.
	Right.
	And you can go one of two directions with that.
	You can either go sort of the religious route, right, the Christian, the Jewish route, and, you know, kind of approach the problems that way, or you think that you can fix it on this earth.
	Politically.
	Yeah, politically or through some utopia.
	And utopias have seduced humanity for centuries.
	But what we've seen every single time is that they always end with tragic consequences.
	They always end in a totalitarian way with people dying.
	Are you not buoyed by, is there no solace to be found, I mean I know you were incredibly active when you were at the Heritage Foundation, working with parents across America who are resisting the likes of CRT in the schools.
	Oh, yes, absolutely fair.
	That is actually the thing that gives me the most hope above all.
	And actually, it's really interesting when you look at the election results.
	I know we're all focused and frustrated about, you know, the really topped or happy in many instances about, you know, the national level races.
	But honestly, there were tremendous successes, both at the level of judges.
	There were a lot of really good wins, but also school board members.
	A big number of school boards flipped conservative and this is hugely important because this is our future.
	This is how we're educating our children.
	So what happens on school boards is critical for that reason.
	But I'll say the other reason I think it's really important is because school boards are a launching pad for other Political positions, right?
	Somebody who gets the experience of being on a school board then becomes a great candidate to run for higher office.
	So yeah, I'm super, super encouraged by what I'm seeing amongst parents and at the local level.
	We're talking to Katie Gorka, former senior advisor to the Department of Homeland Security in the Trump administration.
	The event held earlier today at the Heritage Foundation was how cultural Marxism threatens the United States and how Americans can fight back.
	Will the whole paper, is it accessible now?
	Will it be up on the Heritage website?
	What's the timeline for the book?
	Yeah, so the paper is up on the website and actually people can watch the event that you so kindly moderated.
	Wow, what a great idea.
	Heritage.org, right?
	Yep.
	But after the show, guys.
	After the show.
	Wait till after the show.
	Yeah, so they can see the event and oh, the book is going to be still, it's still months out.
	We're about two-thirds of the way done.
	Oh great, I can look forward to that at home.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist of President Trump.
	This is America First one-on-one.
	Talking in the break, my wife's worried about getting too wonky!
	But that's why we have the long-form discussions.
	We're going to wonk out a little bit in a moment.
	But first, while I was eating little dogs in a blanket and the coconut shrimp, which was excellent at Mar-a-Lago, my wife was actually working and she wasn't even getting paid for it!
	Left the house at 3.30 in the a.m.
	and I saw her on the security cameras, got back at 9.45 at night.
	What were you doing on Tuesday, Katie?
	Serving as a chief election officer here in Virginia.
	Did you have fun?
	I have to say, I actually did have fun.
	It is a painfully long day.
	But we had a great group of people, Democrats and Republicans.
	We came together.
	We had a lot of fun.
	And I have to say, the most fun we had is the people who were sort of manning the door and the DS200s, where you put your ballot in.
	We had to give a cheer and a shout out.
	You said she doesn't want to be wonky.
	What is a DS200?
	It's the machine where you submit your ballot.
	I thought everybody knew that.
	Oh, sorry.
	I didn't.
	So we had to give a shout-out and cheer for every first-time voter, and we had quite a few.
	Who instigated that?
	That's so cool.
	I like that.
	I know.
	One of the people standing at the DS200s.
	And it kept us all kind of cheerful all day, so that was good.
	But I have to say, first of all, I encourage everybody to do this.
	I had one person from our side.
	The good guys.
	Yeah, the good guys.
	This was my only negative experience in the entire day was a fellow Republican came up to me and was, you know, kind of complaining about what had happened in the 2020 election.
	And I get the frustration, but I wanted to say to him, you know, there is no magic election fairy.
	If you want the election fixed, We live in a self-governing republic.
	It's on us, right?
	And you're not exactly a person who likes politics.
	Is that fair to say?
	That's totally fair to say.
	So you did that despite not being a big political junkie?
	Because I know that it's the only way that we're going to be able to trust our elections.
	But having said that, having seen the process from the inside, I am shocked and appalled by how absurdly archaic and complicated it is.
	Just overly complex.
	Everything.
	And there's opportunity for human failure and cheating at every stage.
	I mean, people, of course, have... I mean, I think most people have good intentions, but I'm telling you, because of the way the system is set up, I think there's opportunity for breakdown at just a thousand different phases.
	And it just, it baffles me how I can, you know, deposit checks on my phone or make secure transactions, you know, 10 in a day, but we can't develop a secure election system.
	And how India with over a billion people, how Mexico that is ravaged by an internal insurgency with the cartels actually has Voter ID, but we don't in 14 states of the nation.
	By the way, if you have a partner who decides to get serious about this stuff, just be prepared early in the morning when you're in your bathrobe to open the door to the local sheriffs, okay?
	Who roll up in their patrol car to drop off the, what was it, the thumb drives for you and the election officials?
	Yeah, the updated voter rolls.
	Right, but be ready for that, because that's what I had to do.
	I know, you showed up in your shorts and your t-shirt, right?
	I was doing physical therapy!
	I was with my trainer!
	And then this doorbell rings and the sheriffs are outside.
	But would you do it again?
	Are you committed to this process?
	I will 100% do it again, yes.
	And anybody can, right?
	You don't have to be, you know, somebody who worked in a government position like you did.
	Oh, no, no, no, not at all.
	I mean, what I do recommend to people, it is a super complicated system.
	So I have previously served as simply as an election officer.
	So I think, you know, you start out.
	Well, you've also volunteered.
	We both volunteered for the local Republican Party.
	So we've been outside the polling station giving out leaflets.
	Then you became an election official.
	And then you got certified earlier this year as a chief election official.
	Right, exactly.
	Or you can be—depending on if your party's in power or not, you can be an assistant.
	But I think everybody should do it.
	And yes, it's painful.
	It was, what, a 17-hour day?
	But I got through it.
	And I think it's just so important.
	To me, it's so American.
	It's like jury duty and paying taxes.
	This is part of what it means to be an American.
	My wife can do it.
	You can't because she hates politics.
	This is America First one-on-one, the deep dive coming to you from the relieffactor.com studios just outside the insalubrious fetid rank malodorous swamp that is Washington DC.
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	So I want to send this little clip to Dr. Ashley, because I owe her.
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	Well, guess what?
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	So why did you like it?
	Well, aside from the fact that I went from a size 12 to a size 8, why do I like it?
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	I thought the coaching was super, super important.
	Shout out Rachel.
	Yeah, shout out Rachel, absolutely.
	They just make it really clear and simple.
	And I hear so many people ask me how I did it, and everybody recognizes that carbs and sugar are a problem, but then they're like, yeah, I know it's a problem, but I don't want to give them up.
	No, you give them up.
	And I think it's that they encourage you to give them up, but that they really work with you to find what's going to work for you, because it's not exactly the same for everybody.
	It's tailor-made for everybody.
	All right, back to business.
	We're talking about the threat of cultural Marxism inside America.
	I don't want to wonk out here too much, but you did this and you bugged me for input on what do we do about it, what's the response.
	So give us one or two things about the NSC-68, the President Reagan rollback.
	How does the rollback of the NSC-68 for the domestic cultural Marxist threat, what kinds of things does it have to include?
	It can't be solved by federal government, correct?
	So, everybody's got a role to play.
	So, you know, as we've already talked about, on the local level, I think it's the absolute most important.
	Everyday Americans have to understand what this threat is about and what they're after.
	But I will say national leadership and state-level leadership is super important as well.
	You know, what Trump was able to do from the White House, what Ron DeSantis has done in Florida, has been enormously... So when it comes to CRT and pushing back on the 1619 project, there's a role at state and national level, but perhaps the most important is the local, like the running for the local school board.
	Well, and for everyday Americans to understand it and fight this because it's all around us.
	So yes, I would have absolutely phrased it that way.
	National leadership is important, but what happens locally is perhaps the most important.
	Two more things.
	How pernicious, how seriously do we have to take it?
	Because I think it's not on many people's radar screen.
	The insertion of cultural Marxism into the private sector and the corporate sector.
	The ESG, the DIE, the equity, governance, blah, blah, blah, diversity.
	How serious is that?
	I'm telling you, Americans are going to be up for a really shocking awakening.
	I mean, one of the other pieces that Mike and I have been working on, which is related to this, but it was kind of its own research project, was the relationship between philanthropy.
	What are the large foundations doing?
	Most of which used to be conservative.
	Yes, well, and all of which were founded because somebody made a ton of money because of the American system.
	They create a foundation and virtually every single one goes radical progressive left.
	They are pouring.
	Not even tens of millions and not even hundreds.
	They are pouring billions of dollars now into pushing this radical progressive agenda.
	Do you have any theory as to why conservative billionaires don't focus on the culture?
	Oh, so... In terms of funding a pushback?
	Yeah, I mean, this is one of the million dollar questions, and I would say this actually has to go into the bucket of solutions as well.
	So, you know, why did we concede Hollywood to the left?
	Why are there not more conservatives who understand that the culture is being shaped by what kids are watching on television?
	You know, I just came from an absolutely terrific conference in Nashville for a couple days, run by a company called Iron Light.
	Great organization, really amazing.
	And part of their mission is they understand this problem, right?
	And I do see various efforts, but it's like trickling.
	You know, we need conservative Successful people to step up and fund the culture and get back into the culture because the culture is so much of what shapes how people see the country and see us in the world.
	All right, the publication, the event we had today in the forthcoming book is How Cultural Marxism Threatens the United States and How Americans Can Fight Back.
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	Okay, last question.
	Surprising for most people, I would think, who aren't, you know, completely submerged in this issue, as you have been for so long, is that one of the things you mentioned in the bullet points for today's event, you said that one of the responses or strategies is that we have to prosecute those who are sexualizing children.
	Is this, have you made a connection between cultural Marxism and the whole transgender transition movement?
	Yeah.
	I mean, you know, part of what cultural Marxism does is, first of all, let's eradicate truth.
	Let's eradicate observable truth.
	A man is a man.
	Chromosomes matter.
	A woman is a woman.
	And science.
	And, you know, honestly, they're trying to drive a wedge between parents and children.
	Which, again, is a classic communist tactic.
	Absolutely.
	And the whole transgender thing, I mean, you know, just a couple days ago, another detransitioner has announced that she is bringing a lawsuit against those who, you know, put her... So a girl who was transitioned to a fake male... Yes.
	...is now, that's what a detransitionee is.
	And is now bringing a suit against those who did it to her.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I think you're, you're, honestly, you're going to see a wave of these and it's going to bring an end to it.
	It is going to bring it to an end.
	I am optimistic because there are so many lawsuits that are being lined up now because as these poor kids, I mean the very notion that you're going to let a 13 or 14 year old make a life altering decision based on false, a lot of false information, right?
	Well, and a decision that cannot be reversed, that will sterilize them.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And I don't think that they realize that.
	And then, of course, a few years go by and they realize it's misery.
	You have a lot of maintenance, a lot of drugs.
	You have to keep taking hormones.
	You have to keep taking problems, all kinds of problems that you have.
	And so they detransition.
	They try to detransition.
	And they're realizing how problematic and difficult it is.
	And they are bringing lawsuits.
	Thank goodness.
	You're talking to three million people across the nation from New York to Texas to California.
	Who has a role to play in pushing back on cultural Marxism?
	Who doesn't have a role to play, honestly?
	I mean, and I think—well, that's what I love about your listeners, though.
	I think you've got a very active community of Americans, and I think everybody sort of steps up and does something, you know, whether it's running for office, whether it's serving as an election officer, whether it's, you know, sharing articles and educating Friends and neighbors, we've all got something that we can be doing.
	And this country is just such a blessing to all of us.
	I mean, I have to say for all my frustration, especially with the election, I still, I woke up so grateful that I woke up in America and that I am an American.
	It is still the greatest nation on earth.
	Give thanks.
	It is the season to give thanks.
	We still are the greatest nation on God's green earth, but it's up to you to keep it that way.
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