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	�� I recognise, though, given the situation, I cannot deliver the mandate on which I was elected by the Conservative Party.
	I have therefore spoken to His Majesty the King to notify him that I am resigning as leader of the Conservative Party.
	No U-turns.
	This lady's not for turning.
	I remember that catchphrase from Margaret Thatcher when I lived in the UK.
	Well, this one didn't just do a U-turn.
	She got off the highway.
	A record.
	44 days in office.
	Shortest serving Prime Minister ever.
	Gone.
	Goodbye Liz Truss.
	What does it all mean?
	How did it happen?
	We stay on top of international news as much as anything else.
	I'm your host, Sebastian Gorka, and you're listening to America First on the Salem News Channel.
	Who do we rely upon?
	Our good friend across the Atlantic, the man who speaks truth and common sense on the fastest growing channel there.
	It is Talk TV.
	It's our good friend, Mike Graham.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Sebastian, thank you very much indeed.
	Well, it's been quite a day.
	It's been quite a week.
	It's been quite a 44 days, you might say.
	As you say, the shortest period ever.
	Some think this has been a Remainer plot.
	There are those in this country who still can't take the fact that Brexit was a success and that we left the European Union.
	You know, we now have Jeremy Hunt, who's a chancellor who voted to remain in the EU.
	Liz Truss was a Remainer who changed into a Brexiteer and is now out.
	Boris Johnson, however, is the big name on everybody's lips tonight because... But hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Didn't you just get rid of him, Mike?
	Yeah, but we might be getting him back.
	He could be the greatest political comeback of all time.
	You know how he's very much like Donald Trump.
	They're trying to get him every single step of the way.
	They are terrified of Boris Johnson coming back because he is the one man who can unite the Tory party, who can win an election against the Labour Party and who could actually restore everything for them.
	Nobody's quite sure if he's going to run, but he's already in the lead in the polls and he's already in the lead in the House of Commons as far as MPs who support him.
	Stunning.
	All right, I have to ask you also about Nigel Farage, but first things first.
	How did this happen?
	Who is Liz Truss?
	And why did this happen?
	Was it the City of London?
	Was it the bankers?
	Was it her own Conservative Party?
	Give us the inside scoop, Mike.
	Yeah, it was a mixture of all of that.
	The bankers didn't like the fact that she didn't have a plan to pay for all the borrowing that she was making.
	But they didn't care about the borrowing to pay for people's electricity.
	They cared about the tax cuts.
	Now, that tells me that it was nothing to do with the amount of money.
	It was all to do with ideology.
	And they didn't like the idea that they wanted to be somehow better off.
	It seems as though the Conservative Party, without Boris Johnson, doesn't like right-wing politics, right?
	So you're left with this rump of people, like Rishi Sunak, who want to tax people more, who want to spend more public money, which doesn't sound very conservative to a lot of the grassroots of the Conservative Party in this country.
	And that's the problem, because the people of the country who vote Conservative expect there to be strong law and order policies, strong immigration policies and tax cuts.
	And at the moment, Nobody in the Tory party wants to do it.
	Let's just try to do it.
	It was defeated by the blob, as Dominic Cummings used to call it.
	We have the swamp here.
	You've got the blob over there.
	So I was on the phone to a British mucker of mine, a friend earlier, and he said, you know, if they screw this up, they got rid of trust.
	If Boris doesn't come back and save it, or I would like Nigel Farage, Labour could come in and utterly destroy the country.
	Tell me that's not a possibility.
	Well, it could be.
	I mean, I've actually postured a strategy for the Tory party because the Tory party is finished right now.
	Without anybody in the right wing being given the reins of power.
	Because I don't want a Conservative Party which is wet, which is new Labour, which is more like Tony Blair than it is like Margaret Thatcher.
	And that's kind of what we've got, right?
	So what I want to see is a new Conservative Party.
	And in order to get that, it may well be necessary to let Labour in for a couple of years.
	They will make a complete hash of everything.
	And they'll be out for a generation.
	Boris can come riding back on his white steed.
	Take us back to Brexit, take us back to strong government, low taxes and stopping immigration.
	Right, he is the host of the Independent Republic of Mike Graham on TalkTV.
	You've got to see the YouTube clips of him just excoriating politicians live on camera from in front of the Palace of Westminster.
	Follow him on Twitter at I-R-O-M-G, that's Independent Republic of Mike Graham, and check out TalkTV.
	So, if Bojo comes back, here's the Inside the Sausage Factory question for you, Mike.
	Are there enough Decent, real, you know, I would call, if I were in the UK now, I'd call myself a Thatcherite.
	Are the Thatcherites died out?
	Are they living a good life in the private sector?
	Are there enough to have the back of the next prime minister if they're a real conservative?
	Well, do you know the ex-Home Secretary, Suella Braverman, who basically resigned her job because she wasn't being allowed to run the immigration policy and to stop the illegal migration onto the shores of our country from France?
	She wasn't allowed to do that, so she resigned.
	The accusations made against Liz Truss was that she was a far right leader.
	I mean, incredible stuff.
	This was coming from inside the Conservative Party because it is, unfortunately, has always been driven by the European question.
	And people have started to say that they want actually That makes sure that there is still a relationship with the European Union, which is absolutely a basket case.
	I mean, inflation in France is worse than it is in the UK.
	They're having blackouts in Germany.
	You know, it's absolutely horrendous over in the EU.
	There's never been a better time to lead the European Union.
	Donald Trump said Germany was too reliant on Russian gas, and so it proved.
	So we need to get to a return.
	And there's plenty of Thatcherites who are voting Conservative, but they're not getting the Conservative government they're asking for.
	And talk to us about your expectation.
	Is it going to be a cakewalk for Boris?
	Is it going to be super tough?
	Are they already sharpening the daggers in the halls of the Palace of Westminster?
	Well, if you consider that Jeremy Hunt has effectively been running the country since he was appointed Chancellor about almost a week ago now.
	This is a guy who came eighth out of eight when he ran for leader of the party.
	Just when Liz Truss won it.
	He lost against Boris Johnson before.
	He's a man who was so keen on China that he married a Chinese woman who used to present a television program for Chinese state TV, right?
	He's also a guy who, during COVID, thought that it was a great idea to lock people up, Chinese style, for two weeks and seal the door.
	You know, we don't want this guy running the country.
	And somehow he's managed to get himself in the most powerful position of all.
	And he also voted to remain.
	So we've got to get rid of these people, and it's going to be a tough job.
	And he's the kind of person that will try and stop Boris Johnson.
	Boris has to get 100 votes from MPs by Monday.
	He's currently got about 38 or 40.
	If he gets to 100, he gets into the ballot, he wins.
	Sounds like you've got your own version of Mitch McConnell there with his ties to China through his wife.
	Alright, last question, gotta ask.
	I should have texted him before the show.
	Nigel Farage, is he living the life of Riley now or can we get him back in politics?
	Well, do you know, lots of people are asking that question and he made a little video today.
	He is, as you know, a presenter on GB News.
	He says he can't do it on his own.
	He says what's got to happen is the right-wing and right-thinking politicians of this country need to get together.
	There's a party called the Reform Party run by Richard Tice, formerly who was the head of the Brexit Party, along with Nigel.
	Nigel, I think, is nervous about putting his life back on the line politically because he's had a terrible, terrible time.
	Personally, people are giving him, you know, people throwing things over him, people attacking him.
	You know, he had the plane crash.
	You know, it's not an easy thing to campaign.
	I totally respect Nigel Farage.
	I hope that he might get involved.
	But if this Tory party doesn't fix itself, it's going to split into a right-wing version and a left-wing version.
	And if they join forces with Reform UK, that could be very interesting indeed.
	Wow.
	Now you're cooking with gas.
	I like the sound of that.
	Yeah, he's fought for more than 20 years.
	He deserves a bit of a break.
	But maybe old Blighty needs him back.
	In the meantime, the Common Sense will be delivered every single day by Mike Graham on TalkTV.
	Check him out.
	I-R-O-M-G on Twitter.
	The Independent Republic of Mike Graham.
	And thank you for joining us today.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We've only just started the show.
	So much to discuss with our special guests.
	With you, our callers.
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	We'll be back after these messages.
	He's gone.
	Title for that and also for Professor.
	Hang on, let me just text.
	Yeah.
	Boris gets back in.
	I just really want his first speech to the House of Commons to just start with, did you miss me?
	Something like that.
	He ended with hasta la vista last time.
	He's got to come up with something clever.
	Oh my gosh.
	- Gross. - I'll never forget that. - Rumblers, 1400 of you.
	He went to Harvard?
	Are you kidding me?
	Who?
	Levine.
	What's Levine's real name?
	Frank?
	Fred?
	What is it?
	Richard.
	Or Rachel.
	Richard.
	Sorry, Richard.
	Yeah, that's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah.
	Richard to Rachel.
	That's right.
	That is frightening.
	All right.
	Where are we at?
	B.
	It's the 20th.
	Two and a half minutes.
	You want to do ins and outs?
	Yes.
	Stay with us for more on The Manhood Hour with Professor Victor Davis Hanson.
	We'll be back with Professor Hanson after these messages.
	More with Professor Hanson on The Manhood Hour.
	Stay with us.
	We'll be back with The Manhood Hour in a moment.
	Welcome back to The Manhood Hour with me, Sebastian Gawke, and Professor Victor Davis Hanson.
	You're listening to The Manhood Hour with Victor Davis Hanson.
	Welcome back to The Manhood Hour with our very special guest, Professor Victor Davis Hanson.
	Is it really Thursday?
	Nutty!
	PhD, okay.
	Oh, I got a new photograph!
	I'm sending you one now.
	Hang on, let me send this to you first.
	Eric.
	Photograph.
	OD graph.
	All right, sent. sent.
	For the... Graham.
	Boris Johnson.
	What did he say?
	Something about comeback?
	The ultimate comeback.
	Boris Johnson.
	The End
	The End Making sense.
	Out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I had so much fun on our Battleground Talkers Tour, but it is good to be back in studio.
	Is it good to have me back, guys?
	Absolutely.
	It's just not the same when you're not here.
	I don't hit Jeff.
	Eh.
	If he were, like, a little bit younger, he'd say, meh.
	He'd say, meh.
	You know, I'm surprised that we have hesitation.
	I haven't heard from everyone on the team.
	Because except for the man who refuses to smoke cigars, I don't know what John's problem is.
	What did I bring my team members?
	A bunch of cigars out of your jacket box.
	Every single, the fact that I was giving them, giving them, I, there you go, look, look, Alex is actually holding his up.
	Look at that stick.
	Look at that fine, fine stogie.
	And the fact that I didn't even spend any money on them, but I'm giving you the cigars I was given, there you go, by our listeners.
	I think that's an extra show of dedication.
	Don't you think, Jeff?
	I appreciate the cigar and I'll appreciate it more tonight when I get to smoke it.
	All right, it's good to be back.
	Yeah, it was so amazing.
	We were on the stage last night with the local host in Philly.
	I got to tell a story about when he came on the stage, what it was like.
	Anyway, and there were three of us on the stage along with Dennis Prager.
	It was me, Mike Gallagher and Chris Stegall.
	And you know, Mike has lost 50 pounds.
	And he keeps rubbing it in.
	He says, oh, oh, you just lost 40 pounds on PhD.
	I lost 53.
	Chris Stegall, 990 the answer from Philly, arrives and I think it's like his kid brother.
	90 pounds that guy has lost.
	90 pounds and he looks amazing.
	Now half of it was his beard because he's trimmed his beard but he looked amazing.
	Do we have the crowd scene from Philly?
	So we went to, where did we go?
	We started off in Tampa, then Orlando, then Atlanta and then we ended up in Philly.
	The guys are still going, I think they're in, I don't know where they are tonight, Detroit or something.
	This was the audience At a place called The Fuge in Philly last night.
	Play cut.
	USA!
	USA!
	Can you explain that to me, Jeff?
	You're from the neck of the woods, right?
	Would you consider yourself to be a Philly boy or a New Jersey boy?
	Well, that's the same thing.
	I'm from about 15 minutes outside of Philadelphia, so it's the Philly market.
	Alright, so how is it that of all... the sellout, 1,200 people, was Philly?
	And the best... it was electric when we got there!
	Are you saying that you're surprised there's that many conservatives there?
	No, not just that.
	It's not just the number.
	It was the quality.
	It was the energy.
	I mean, the energy was electric.
	Why in Philly?
	Because they have to deal with it.
	I'll put it to you this way.
	Who is probably the most conservative, passionate people in this country?
	The people who are surrounded by idiots who hate America.
	No, I think it's immigrants that come from socialist, communist countries.
	Yes!
	So that's what it is.
	The people in Jersey, it might be 35-40%, but they're the ones that deal with the nonsense the most.
	That's interesting.
	That's interesting.
	I've got to tell you a story about the Uber driver that Dennis took to the venue.
	But first, why do I even talk about it?
	Oh, yeah.
	So if you add it up, £90, £40 for me, £53 for Gallagher, Chris Stegall said, you know, collectively, we've lost a person.
	I mean, we've lost like a £200 person, just the three of us together.
	And I am so grateful.
	I didn't find out until this week.
	It was actually a client that Mike Gallagher brought to Salem.
	Yes, my PhD is thanks to Mike Gallagher.
	And if we can lose a person in weight, you can too.
	It's an amazing program.
	Thanks to Dr. Ashley Lucas.
	20 years.
	Look, that's my latest photo.
	That was this morning.
	I put on an old suit this morning.
	It looks like one of those clown pants, doesn't it?
	I'm hiding a bunch of flowers or something down my clown pants.
	That is a suit that used to fit me.
	Now that's what it looks when you lose 40 pounds.
	That could be you.
	Could you imagine just losing what I did?
	If I'd have gotten 90 or 50, just 40 pounds.
	Call today 864-644-1900 or myphdweightloss.com.
	Work for me, work for Mike, work for my wife.
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	So it's good.
	I don't have to do a lot of show prep after I go on these talking events because I just sit next to Dennis on the stage and I listen to him for an hour and a half and I make notes.
	And I did that yesterday.
	My show prep was talking about what he said the night before.
	Let me share with you this story about Dennis's Uber driver to the Fuge.
	The Fuge, by the way, amazing, incredible event venue.
	It was the U.S.
	Navy's centrifuge.
	I'm going to show you some photographs of that in the next segment.
	It's where they train the pilots and the astronauts in a machine that can actually put you through 30 Gs of acceleration.
	It's exactly the thing out of Moonraker.
	You know, where James Bond spins around and around and around.
	They've still got the centrifuge, but a man bought it, and now it's a venue area.
	They've got a liquor license, and that's where we were yesterday.
	And Dennis, because he has to do something separately, he didn't come with us in the minivan.
	He got an Uber to the venue.
	And he's got a black Uber driver.
	And the Uber driver's chatting.
	And he says, so what do you do for a living?
	And Dennis says, I give speeches.
	What kind of speeches do you give?
	And he says, on the Bible.
	And they start chatting, because he is a biblical exegete.
	His latest book is The Rational Guide to Deuteronomy, The Rational Guide to the Bible.
	And eventually the discussion gets to politics.
	And Dennis very delicately says, so What do you think about what's going on?
	Black Uber driver in Philly says, they've gone insane.
	The Democrats have gone utterly insane.
	Immediately he connects.
	He's got a brother from another mother.
	What does Dennis do?
	He arrives at the venue, what, like an hour early for the VIP reception, all the selfies.
	And he invites his Uber driver to the event.
	And he stays there.
	We gave him a seat in the front row VIP seat.
	Dennis recognized him from the audience.
	And of course, This poor man, he's the only sane person in his family.
	Everybody else is a dyed-in-the-wool, lifelong Democrat voter.
	But he was there with us and more than a thousand other Americans.
	I tell you, I came back energized.
	Mike had a very special message for everyone.
	And it's a simple one.
	I think I've done it before on my show.
	We've got, what, 18 days?
	18 days left?
	19 days.
	Thank you, Eric.
	Right now, get a piece of paper out and start mapping how many people you know who you think aren't going to go and vote.
	Make a list of 10 of them.
	Call them up, engage them, go to their house and tell them you are happy to take them to the polling station.
	If we do that, if all the 3 million of you... Did you read the article about us in the New York Times?
	Even they had to admit.
	If you add up all our audiences, more than 9 million Americans.
	That's double what Fox watches in a night.
	If all of you took 10 people to the polls in 19 days, we would destroy.
	We would turn the Democrat Party into a sheet of glass with our political victory.
	You could be part of that.
	You could help save America.
	Start making that list right now.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	All right.
	JCN just sent me their new Times Square billboard.
	Okay.
	So let's use that with Tony.
	Did you say you want to share some pictures with Philly?
	Yeah, I will.
	I'll send Dennis with his Uber driver.
	Okay.
	Oh, it's, oh, it's Elaine today.
	It's not Tony.
	All right, they've changed it.
	Oh, okay.
	Jeff.
	Yes.
	She's sick.
	Okay.
	Elaine Parker.
	She's, let me check what her title is.
	Head of Strategic Communications.
	Who just told you that?
	She did.
	Okay.
	Chief Communications Officer.
	That's right.
	Does she Skype or phone, Jeff?
	Or do we not know yet?
	No idea.
	Okay.
	Oh, thank you.
	And I'm going to show you the photographs of me in the centrifuge.
	You'll like this one.
	What's your take on that Moonraker scene, which some people say is one of the dumbest ways an assassin tried to kill Bond?
	Which one?
	The one where they trap him in that thing, they're spinning around rapidly.
	Remember?
	Yeah.
	Like is that some people think that's like one of the dumbest moments ever and some other people think like it's actually really good.
	I think it's the bloody coolest because of the way he gets out of it.
	What kid doesn't want one of those wrist firing things?
	Exactly.
	Utterly cool.
	Can you send me her number?
	Uh, yeah.
	Alright, I need those 4D graphs.
	Yes, working on them now.
	Okay, you've got... Okay, yeah, JCN.
	JCN can wait.
	Do the other one.
	Yes.
	Oh my goodness, yeah.
	Alright.
	What am I sending?
	I'm sending a lane.
	Come on, come on, come on.
	Where is it?
	Check every information.
	- Question, let's try contacts.
	Hmm.
	All right. - Do we have a time with Phil?
	Yeah, 440.
	Okay.
	Yeah, 440.
	What is it with Fetterman?
	He looks like a mutant.
	He actually wore a suit today.
	I saw that!
	He looked like Frankenstein in his suit.
	At least seen, I mean, I guess, yeah, he's, when the President's there, he's gonna wear a suit, which I'll give him that much credit at least, but, yeah, that is, it's almost bizarre to see him in a suit at this point.
	Alright, I'm gonna tell Boyle to get the President on the line.
	Alright.
	Oh, Jeff, will you send a text to John?
	So whenever I talk about social media, I'd like to have a buffer with my photograph and then all the... a big true social, a small Twitter, an Instagram symbol, and then what else?
	Facebook.
	Uh, Spotify.
	Oh, and Substack.
	My Substack page.
	Okay.
	America first.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Alright, we should take some calls.
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	Line 1, Ken, Arizona.
	Hello, Sebastian.
	It's been a while.
	It has.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	My comment is, I've been listening all morning and a lot longer than that about how close this administration is pushing us to a nuclear war.
	Isn't it about time we start having public service announcements about how to find a shelter, do a nuclear decon, and get some of these drugs that the government's buying for high radiation?
	No, because that's all BS.
	We're not having a nuclear war with Russia.
	Who's telling you that?
	Well, Bongino.
	I listened to him this morning.
	Beck, also listened to him this morning.
	Yeah, it's not happening.
	I'm glad.
	I hope to God that you're right.
	Keep up the good work.
	It's not a question of, you know, my opinion and whether I'm right.
	Even if he uses tactical nukes in Ukraine, that is not a nuclear war with America.
	You do understand the difference, correct?
	Yes, but things like that have a tendency to get out of control.
	No, because a KGB colonel is a ruthless calculator of risk and benefit, and he knows if he launches one, one nuclear missile towards the territory of the United States, his nation would be a sheet of glass.
	It's not a good move.
	Do you think we should reactivate the civil defense program that we lost in 1994, though?
	No, no point.
	It doesn't exist.
	It would take five years to build it.
	What are you going to rebuild it with?
	Well, I've been doing a lot of study about that.
	It's either a shelter, a cave... Yeah, I know, I know.
	You need to stop the hysteria, Ken.
	We're not going to nuclear war with Russia.
	Even if small-yield tactical nukes are used in Ukraine, that is not Hey Sebastian, I just wanted to make a quick comment about Trump running.
	I believe the only chance Republicans have is if Trump and DeSantis work as a team and DeSantis will agree to work as Vice President.
	It would benefit him to get known more throughout the country instead of just by conservatives and Floridians to, you know, to get out there as part of the team with Trump.
	And I believe Trump will run because he's our only hope, I believe, to beat the Democrat machine.
	Yeah, look, he is running.
	I don't know why people still question.
	He is running.
	I guarantee you.
	If he is breathing after the midterms, he is running.
	I don't agree.
	The only hope is a Trump-DeSantis ticket.
	Trump could win without anyone being his vice president.
	He could make a poodle his vice president.
	And after what Biden has done to us, he would win, absolutely.
	Whether Ron is his vice president depends upon Ron.
	And if he's smart, he'll do it.
	Why?
	Because then he can slide into the pole position in 2028.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Line three, let's work down.
	Klaus, California, welcome.
	Hey, Dr. G. Glad you got to go on a road trip, a flight trip with Dennis and the gang.
	It was amazing.
	It was so much fun, but it's good to be back.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Hey, I got an idea for a t-shirt.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, we've just designed a new one.
	It is still classified.
	We will share it with you momentarily.
	But what's your idea, Klaus?
	Oh, I hope mine isn't an upcoming classified one.
	Make manhood great again.
	And, and, and, and, and, and.
	Let's get a, let's put a silhouette of a bust of you on the skirt.
	No, I'm not recognizable enough, especially in my new svelte form, but maybe we could pick an iconic individual.
	Maybe a silhouette of Clint or the unmistakable silhouette of the President.
	But I like that idea.
	Stay on the line, Klaus.
	That is a rather good contribution to the ideas that we get.
	The superb ideas we get from our Listeners across the nation, let's give Klaus a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	We're going to get back to your calls.
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	All right.
	I mean, certainly the Philly crowd you saw should bode well for November, I would imagine.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope so.
	We have to get people to the polls.
	I haven't seen Sarah Carter on Fox for ages.
	Have you guys seen her?
	No, I haven't, no.
	She's usually on Hannity more.
	She's on Hannity a lot.
	Okay.
	I was gonna say, yeah.
	Still doing the border?
	A lot of that, yeah.
	This is D.
	Oh yeah.
	I got a picture of her in case we go phone.
	Oh, by the way, yeah, Seb, I got the pictures.
	Hang on a second.
	She's gonna be Skype.
	Yeah, she's Skype.
	Okay.
	So you got the pictures or I'm going to talk about them with her because she was there.
	Oh, okay.
	So what have you got?
	You've got the Uber driver.
	This one.
	Nice.
	This one.
	That's a bit squished.
	Sorry.
	Let me, uh, I wasn't a hundred percent sure.
	Let me, uh, Don't need to be squished with my buddies.
	Here's the this one.
	Nice!
	And then of course we have JCN's.
	Alright, sweet.
	Alright, let me adjust it then.
	You can come back to Seb.
	Show me what it looks like after you adjust it.
	Yeah, get expression 2 ready, guy.
	Expression 2?
	There you go.
	How's that?
	Much better!
	Much better.
	That was in Philly?
	That was Philly, yeah.
	That was last night.
	Centrifuge.
	You ready for tomorrow?
	What's tomorrow?
	The special, the new... I'm not!
	I'm gonna do some research.
	I'm gonna watch some Bond stuff tonight.
	Oh, not tomorrow.
	Oh, okay.
	She's on the line.
	You want the mics on or off?
	Off.
	Off.
	Is it?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Not coming in with anything?
	No, I'm going to talk about JCN.
	Yep, all righty.
	No, just I'm going to talk about the event and the photographs.
	Yes.
	All right.
	All right.
	finger than CNN has on its entire network.
	Sebastian Gorka.
	That's so kind.
	Thank you, Deep Voice Dave.
	We have to reach out to Deep Voice Dave.
	We have to give him some more liners to read now that James Earl Jones is retired.
	Did you see that?
	Who likes science fiction here?
	Jeff, you love science fiction, right?
	Nope.
	Do you even know who James Earl Jones is?
	Yeah, he was in Fueller Dreams.
	That's why I know him.
	All right.
	He's retired.
	He's not doing Darth Vader's voice anymore.
	I'm heartbroken.
	I'm sure you're heartbroken as well.
	Dear friends, you have got to come to these events.
	The Battleground Talkers events are amazing.
	I talked to you about Dennis Prager's Uber driver.
	Here's a photograph we took as we were leaving Philly yesterday.
	That's the man who stands alone in his family as a black American As a patriot who loves this country and votes Republican.
	Who else did we meet at the event?
	Immediately the cops outside, the law enforcement officers came over.
	We took some selfies.
	Thank you for looking after us.
	Great, great team last night.
	And then I had to get into the centrifuge.
	That's me.
	I was pulling 29 G's there.
	Only human to ever do that and survive.
	And then what else do we have?
	What's the last one?
	Oh, we'll have to discuss that with our special guest.
	She was there.
	She was there for the whole tour, as long as I was there, along with Alfredo Ortiz.
	We are delighted to have with us Elaine Parker of the Job Creators Network.
	Hey Sebastian, it's great to see you again.
	It is.
	It's been so long.
	It's been, what, about 18 hours since I last saw you in Philadelphia.
	You were a trooper.
	You were with us everywhere we went with the team.
	You said something stunning the day before.
	Where were we the day before?
	Was that Orlando?
	Anyway, I can't keep it straight.
	You said something really fascinating about what Biden is doing, you know, to quote-unquote get rid of student debt.
	But first, You've got a new billboard.
	And you guys always are staring up, making trouble.
	It's in Times Square.
	Let's put the image up there.
	We'll describe it for our radio listeners.
	It's the photograph of that senile husk of a man stuffing his face with some chocolate chip ice cream when he said, what did he say?
	He said, oh, the economy, it's really strong.
	Well, here's your response from JCN.
	Here's the scoop.
	And it's not a double chocolate chip.
	Bidenflation is a recipe for disaster.
	Come on, Joy, John.
	Come on, Joe.
	The numbers don't lie.
	And here they are.
	Milk, up 17%.
	Sugar, up 16%.
	And the other ingredient you need if you're making some ice cream, eggs, up 46%.
	Who designs these billboards?
	I love them.
	Who does them, Elaine?
	Well, of course, we have a very creative team that has a lot of input on it.
	Alfredo is, of course, one of the most creative people I've ever worked with in my life.
	And then my entire team is very creative.
	So there's a lot of inputs there.
	All right, keep doing it, keep doing it.
	We want to see new billboards and you've got to put them in the heartland of the Democrat insanity so that we can win over some people to the heart of America, which are the small businesses, the 30 million small businesses employing 60 million Americans.
	But let's talk about the broader picture, what this administration is doing to the economy.
	You said, you had a really great suggestion that this debt write-off, which isn't a forgiveness, we're going to have to pay for it.
	The plumbers of the world are going to be paying for the master's degrees in gender studies.
	You said something about endowments, and you had a very interesting suggestion.
	Would you share it with our three million listeners?
	Yeah, I mean, I think that a lot of people don't realize that these colleges and universities are sitting on $700 billion in endowments, that it's tax-free money, and they're using it, you know, these tuition dollars, they're using these endowments, they're paying multi-million dollar salaries to the presidents of these colleges and universities.
	I'm going to go where I shouldn't go.
	I know it might be a sensitive topic, but coaches are making multi-million dollar salaries and nobody's questioning them on it.
	They're building Taj Mahals across their campuses with resort style amenities.
	That's all student tuition.
	And so what we're saying is that it's college endowments that should be responsible for paying off this debt, not taxpayer dollars.
	The colleges need to be held accountable.
	No, absolutely.
	The They're sitting on tens of billions of dollars worth of endowments that are meant to be for students.
	That's the whole point.
	And they want people who actually have a job to pay for those student loans.
	So you at JCN, you've initiated a lawsuit to fight this insanity.
	What's the status of the lawsuit against the Biden administration, Elaine?
	Well, the judges ordered a hearing next Tuesday to hear arguments from both sides on our request for a preliminary injunction.
	And that's just to put a halt on everything so that we can actually look at the merits of the case.
	And we represent, we're representing two plaintiffs in Texas.
	You are doing so many different things at the same time.
	You've got a new survey of small business owners.
	What are you being told by people who aren't in politics, who don't have to stuff their faces with ice cream in front of TV cameras?
	What is the mood?
	What is the prognosis of small business owners in America regarding the Biden economy?
	Well, more than 70% of our small business owners do feel that we're in a recession, regardless of the delusional comments that come out of this administration.
	And the most pressing issue, the biggest issue that they're facing right now is inflation, and followed up by inflation, and then followed up in a third level by inflation.
	That is what's killing our small business owners.
	And this reckless spending and this doubling down on these horrible policies is just killing our small business owners.
	You've got a prosperity plan at JCN.
	All of our listeners can check it out.
	You can go to JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
	There's a copy of the prosperity plan.
	You can send it to your elected representatives to tell them this is how you actually create prosperity in America.
	That's JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
	Tell us a little bit about the bus that was everywhere with us wherever we were speaking for our Battleground Talkers Tour.
	There was a rather, rather impressive JobCreators bus everywhere we went.
	Yeah, so our bus is the Great Opportunity Project bus tour.
	We're traveling the country.
	We're joining you on some of your stops as well in your tour.
	And it's an opportunity for us to meet with congressional representatives across the country and small business owners and talk about our Great American Small Business Prosperity Plan and the issues that are facing small business owners.
	And we're asking small business owners across the country to go to JobCreatorsNetwork.com Click on the Prosperity Plan because they can actually, from that website, send a letter to their representatives in Congress and tell them that they need to support this very simple eight-point plan, but this is what is going to help drive our economy, is policies that are included in that plan.
	Perfect.
	They're making it easy for Americans to be advocates for the lifeblood of America.
	Big business doesn't have lobbyists.
	Sorry, small business owners don't have lobbyists like the big companies do that navigate the swamp.
	Who they have is the Job Creators Network.
	Go there today and follow Elaine Parker, their Chief Communications Officer at Elaine underscore Parker.
	God bless you for what you're doing and please say hi and hello to Alfredo as well.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Your call is next here on America First.
	Where did Ray go?
	Ray from Livermore.
	I saw him on the call screen aboard and then he dropped.
	We have to get him back.
	Oh, there he is.
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	�� 11 and 12.
	Can you play me 11 and 12? 11 and 12.
	Go ahead.
	Incredible.
	Where was that?
	It was at the Fetterman event.
	Here's 12.
	But I took my antidepressant medication that I take every day.
	Ooh, I can't believe you admitted that.
	Why?
	You don't take medication?
	You think it's an unusual thing?
	He's so defensive about it as you tell.
	Can you come in with that?
	That's too good.
	That's too good.
	One minute.
	Title for Parker and also the professor.
	Yeah, make that a private one and then send it to them, alright, Jeff?
	Yes.
	I do.
	Another zinger of a JCN billboard.
	A JCN billboard.
	All right, coming in with 12.
	No liner, Alex?
	No.
	All righty.
	Oh, I can't believe you admitted that.
	Why?
	You don't take medication?
	You think it's an unusual thing?
	I think by playing a clip of Chris Cuomo on his new show admitting he takes antidepressant medicine.
	Why is he so defensive?
	I think my eyeballs Just doubled his viewership.
	I think we shouldn't do that again because we don't need to give him the ratings.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Happy Thursday to you too, Dr. G. I have two points to make to you today.
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	No.
	And they're also gaslighting, as usual, the Democrats.
	So that I need to continue to press No on Proposition 1.
	Thank you.
	Dr. G, on behalf of all of us at I Am for the Voiceless, all of us ladies and guys, we want to wish you with our blessing for a super amazing happy birthday on Saturday because you are this special person.
	She gave it away!
	Right, that's it.
	Cut her off.
	She's giving away state secrets there.
	Thank you, Antoinette.
	It is my birthday on Saturday.
	You're so sneaky.
	We love you.
	Keep doing what you do.
	And I hope I'm going to see you in L.A.
	on October 30th.
	Let's squeeze in one more great patriot, Ray from Livermore.
	Hey, hey, doctor.
	Thanks for having the folks from JCN on.
	As you indicated, there are no advocates for small business.
	No.
	You would know that, right?
	Because you're a small business owner.
	There's no lobbyists.
	In fact, it seems like the folks in Sacramento and DC are actively working against small businesses because we can't be pushed around and manipulated like larger businesses or corporations or unions are able to do.
	So they just want us out of the way.
	So, um, Yes.
	One of the things that rarely gets talked about is health care costs.
	Obamacare was supposed to drive down health care costs.
	But it's actually for guys like us.
	We don't qualify for government help with Obamacare, and we don't have a corporation or a government agency to pay.
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	here's looking at you snowflake america first welcome back dear friends it's It is good to be back.
	Second Hour of America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President of the United States.
	And still, we're almost the second year of the Biden administration, and I'm still a member of the National Security Education Board.
	Biden is so afraid of me.
	He's also funny.
	Have you seen this clip?
	It's got some rather good music.
	This is him just bumbling off a stage, not knowing where to go.
	This is for the Federman event.
	Cut 11.
	Play cut.
	For those of you who are listening, he turns the wrong way. he turns the wrong way.
	Looks like he's talking to a ghost again.
	Turns around, looks where he should be going, and then, as we used to say in the army when you are wandering aimlessly in the British army, he bimbled off in the opposite direction.
	Can you imagine what the Iranian mullahs think when they see that video?
	Or Xi Jinping, what he thinks?
	Or Vladimir Putin?
	When they see a senile old man just bimbling around.
	All right, what should we talk about?
	We have a special guest in the second half of the hour, but we should maybe have a vote.
	In fact, Eric, what model of politics do we have here?
	What kind of leadership?
	Is this a benevolent dictatorship we have here at America First?
	What's the best way to describe it?
	Can I say that it's a populist republic?
	Oh, I like that.
	I like that.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	I'd like to see myself as a benevolent dictator, but populist republic is good as well.
	All right, what should we talk about?
	Let's have some fun.
	The third hour is going to be with our good buddy Sydney Watson, who is back in the news.
	Oh my gosh.
	She was texting with me last night saying, what do I do?
	What do I do?
	They're writing about me everywhere.
	Why?
	Because of this story.
	The iconoclastic conservative from Australia who lives here in the United States was flying across America, trapped between two rather large ladies.
	And she said the following.
	If you need a seatbelt extension, you're too fat to fly.
	Do you agree?
	Call us, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	Eventually, the airline apologized for turning her into a little sandwich between two very large pieces of bread and gave her, wait for it, wait for it, this is what she was given, A hundred and fifty dollars.
	Yeah, a hundred and fifty dollars.
	Some compensation for being squeezed like toothpaste out of a tube.
	Somebody who probably feels worse than Sidney did.
	Oh, so don't forget, one-on-one, Sidney Watson, an amazing lady, third day out today.
	Somebody who probably feels even worse than Sidney is Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez.
	I need my team to help me analyze this because she's being heckled, not by conservatives, because we don't... I'm trying to think.
	Hang on a second.
	Eric, you do a lot of media monitoring.
	Can you think of the last time that a young conservative at a town hall meeting screamed and heckled at a leftist?
	No, I mean, that's the thing, is that they're more likely to turn on their own rather than one of ours going there to sabotage us.
	But I just thought of that.
	We don't do that, right?
	We don't heckle people.
	We have class.
	We have standards.
	Oh, I like that.
	We have class.
	I like that, as I adjust my tie.
	Alright, well the left, they may say they represent the working class, but they don't have any class.
	These are left-winger, former AOC supporters who've had enough with the fake socialists twice in a row.
	This was last week, Cut 13, and we'll show you what happened yesterday.
	Play Cut.
	There will be no neighbors if there's a nuclear bomb!
	You voted to mobilize and send money to Ukrainian Nazis!
	You're a coward!
	You're a progressive socialist!
	Where are you against the war mobilization?
	He's telling the right truth!
	You have done nothing!
	Tulsi Gabbard has shown guts where you've shown cowardice!
	I believed in you, and you became the very thing you sought to fight against!
	That's what you've become!
	You are the establishment and you are the reason why everybody will end up in a nuclear war unless you choose to stand up right now and denounce the Democratic Party!
	All right, allegedly that is a left-wing socialist who was heckling her.
	It turns out that they were a Lyndon LaRouche, a rather conspiratorial group of individuals.
	But then again, last night, where was this, Jeff?
	That was, the first one was the Bronx, right?
	Yeah.
	And then yesterday, that was also New York.
	It's gotta be New York, right?
	I think her whole district is the Bronx, anyway.
	Okay, cut 14.
	Ma'am, you're saying ask us why, y'all have been talking for 20 minutes, okay?
	We know why.
	We know why you're mad.
	Let's talk about it.
	I'm not allowed to be in a room when the lights turn off, it gets a little... Alright, alright, listen, alright, listen, listen, okay, listen.
	What is that?
	What is that?
	Listen!
	Okay.
	Eric, do you understand?
	Is she being, like, racist?
	What is that?
	I think it's condescending more than anything else.
	And you tie it to the moment she came out towards the end of the clip, as she came back out of the hall, the look on her face.
	She's really mad.
	She's like, how dare they do this to me?
	Who do they think they are?
	So that's why her subsequent response is like, listen, mocking their voices.
	She feels... But that's a Hispanic mockery, right?
	Listen!
	Right?
	She's making fun of them.
	Well, we're not supposed to make fun of her in that regard.
	She grew up as a poor kid in the Bronx, remember?
	Oh yes, Sandy.
	Right, right.
	Did you watch the whole video, Eric?
	I did not.
	I only saw those highlights.
	There's a moment.
	After the show!
	After you've listened to me on Bannon as well.
	I'll be on the War Room later today.
	You should watch the whole heckling because she gets a little weird.
	When they don't give up and she keeps on chanting, she sits on the stage and she starts bobbing like she's dancing to the chanting.
	She's actually making fun of the people protesting her.
	It's very, very condescending.
	I guess she doesn't believe in protest.
	I need to unpack it.
	I think I did it last week with you as well, Jeff.
	Does this mean anything?
	Because the last week, I think, were provocateurs from the fringe left.
	Last night looked a little bit more organic, am I wrong?
	No, I thought this was the same thing as last week, it seemed like to me.
	But why is it hap... Why her?
	That's interesting, and I don't know who it is.
	There's some group, obviously, that's organizing it.
	And that's what you have to figure out, why it is her.
	But it is strange to me.
	Alright, let's talk about another... Not a woman.
	I don't know if that's grammatically correct.
	There is an individual called Richard... Well...
	He calls himself Rachel.
	I'm going to keep my pronouns empirically correct now.
	He calls himself Rachel.
	He wears a female uniform as an officer of the HHS Human Services Department under Biden.
	And this man who wears a skirt has got an opinion on transgenderism.
	This is Rachel, nay, Richard Levine.
	Cut five.
	Now, it's very important to note that the fact that the appropriateness of a range of medical treatments, evaluations and treatments of people who are transgender and transgender youth is thoroughly grounded in medical research.
	And we do not lead state laws and actions that dictate principles of transgender medical care by us, pediatric experts.
	Many at our nation's outstanding children's hospital, including Stanford Children's Hospital.
	Studies clearly show that gender affirming care results in positive mental health outcomes.
	These health services are medically necessary services for youth and gender affirming care is medically necessary, safe, and effective.
	There is no room I mean, I know I was born in England, but what is politicalization?
	Political-ization?
	I don't think that's English.
	When I saw that clip, I only thought of one thing.
	and gender diverse youth.
	I mean, I know I was born in England, but what is politicalization?
	Politicalization?
	I don't think that's English.
	When I saw that clip, I only thought of one thing.
	A certain movie and a certain special secret agent Cut, Dan!
	Play cut!
	This is my mother, Mrs. Exposition.
	How do you do?
	Oh, Stan!
	My God, ma'am!
	What have you done?
	That's not your mother, it's a man, baby!
	That's a man, man.
	He does that twice in the movie Austen Powers.
	That's the only scene I can think of when I see Richard Levine.
	But more seriously, do you hear what he said there?
	Gender affirmation is good for mental health?
	Is that why more than 40% of people who undergo trans surgery contemplate suicide?
	It's evil is what it is.
	And that man wearing a skirt is part of the problem.
	We're gonna stop the evil.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Come to your live from TheReliefFactor.com studios.
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	go to Spotify right now and never ever miss an episode I thought did you say that's your favorite secret agent no I did not.
	Okay, I thought I misheard for a moment there, I was gonna say.
	By the way, do you think Levine's gonna replace Falchi since he's leaving?
	You can't pass over a trans.
	I know, I know, it would be transphobic.
	Good question.
	I'm looking forward to the retirement tour in December.
	Can you imagine the media?
	Oh my goodness.
	Tell me...
	So I saw the email about election night.
	What's the issue, Jeff?
	You want the mics off, Jeff?
	What do you mean?
	Yeah, leave the mics off.
	Yeah, kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the kill the mic.
	Yeah, kill the mic. kill the mic.
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	Mike in Phoenix, welcome to America First.
	Yes, Sebastian, thank you for taking my call.
	I have a challenge for you.
	I know how you hate tote bags, but I would like to challenge you to make a tote bag.
	I don't hate tote bags.
	I think us being identified with tote bags would be pathetic because we would like to differentiate ourselves from NPR.
	But carry on, Mike.
	Well, let me tell you, we went a couple weeks ago to Jackson Hole for a vacation.
	Oh, very, very swanky.
	Very nice.
	Yeah.
	Well, we didn't stay in Jackson Hole, but we went there quite a few times and none of the stores there will give you a bag to put your purchases in.
	You can buy them, but if you want, you know, but they don't just give you one because they're trying to save the earth and all this stuff.
	Of course they are.
	I thought what a great idea it would be To have one that you could buy in your store that has LGBTQ and rainbow letters at the top and then underneath put, let's get Biden to quit.
	And you could take that into the stores all over Jackson Hole with you to buy your purchases and let the liberals look at you or even where you live.
	If you go to Sprouts or liberal stores where they all hang out, just take your tote bag with you that you got from your store and see what happens.
	It's an interesting idea.
	I don't spend enough time in swanky Tony places like Jackson Hole, but let's ask a man who has worn our LGBTQ Let's Get Biden to Quit t-shirt in rather Democrat strongholds.
	What do you think of this suggestion, Mr. G?
	Should we have LGBTQ Let's Get Biden to Quit tote bags?
	Maybe some type of tote bag.
	It's actually A lot of places.
	I was in Jersey last weekend.
	Usually you had to pay for the bag.
	You know, a plastic bag.
	They've done away with that now.
	You have to either buy a reusable bag or bring your own bags.
	It's happening a lot of places now.
	So there is a market for it.
	Alright.
	I think I saw somebody grinning in the back row there with you.
	The back of the classroom.
	John!
	Do we need LGBT Let's Get Biden to Quit Tote Bags on America First?
	Yay or Nay?
	I don't know.
	You know, I'm just not a big tote bag fan.
	See?
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	Emily, Long Beach, California.
	Hi Sebastian!
	Hello!
	Let me turn my stereo down.
	Hold on one second.
	So I touched base on the... Hang on, I need to know this.
	Mr. G, when people are holding on the line, they hear the show, don't they?
	Yes, they do.
	So why do they have their radio on?
	I'm sorry, I thought... Sorry.
	Okay.
	I just want to give you a little bit of hard time.
	Sorry, Emily.
	Carry on.
	Oh, darn it.
	Hold on.
	Hello?
	No, I'm not holding on any longer.
	Proceed, Emily.
	Proceed.
	I'm here.
	I'm so sorry.
	Okay.
	So, yes.
	There's only one study on transgender results.
	There's only one long-term study.
	Out of Sweden, you already referenced... Sweden, yes.
	Yes.
	So the study, whoever that was saying, oh, we have studied and this is... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Whoever that was, that was Vice Admiral Richard, call me Rachel Levine of the Biden administration.
	Oh, right, right, right.
	So let me tell you what the only study that we really have which shows any benefit, right?
	The study shows that at an average of five years, when they asked patients who had the surgery if they were satisfied with the results, they said that they were satisfied.
	So we are going to mutilate a whole generation of children because of one study that said at five years they were satisfied with the results of surgery.
	I don't know of any other study.
	If somebody does, please call in.
	But I'm a medical practitioner of 20 years.
	I work with a lot of transgender patients.
	Hang on, hang on.
	How come you work with a lot of transgender patients?
	Unpack that for me, Emily.
	Because I treat chronic pain, and chronic pain is a psychological illness and a very to a very large extent and people with transgenderism whatever that is they have you can't even imagine how many comorbidities they have well because of the surgeries and because of the chemical castration and the cross hormone therapy correct well they first of all gender dysphoria it's overplayed They've been studying gender dysphoria for a hundred years.
	It happened extremely rarely and very small young boys.
	So whatever's going on today is not true gender dysphoria.
	It's probably more along the line of, you know, cultural shift, bipolar disorder.
	There's lots of great articles written about this, why all of a sudden it's exploding.
	But people who identify as transgender, as far as my patient population, they have Chronic post-traumatic stress... I'm sorry.
	I get so nervous when I talk to people.
	Hang on.
	Slow down.
	This is a super... They have chronic... Stop!
	Emily.
	Sorry.
	Stop.
	Sorry.
	My show now.
	Okay.
	Well, it's my show all the time.
	This is a really important call.
	I know you're a busy practitioner.
	Can you stay on?
	Can you talk to us for one more segment?
	Yes, absolutely.
	This is super important.
	See, this is why we have the best show on the planet.
	It's not because of me, although the accent's pretty cool.
	It's because of the listeners.
	It's because of the callers.
	People like Emily, who are prepared to speak the truth.
	Stay on the line, Emily.
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	She is a medical professional.
	She has been a doctor working in the industry for 20 years.
	She has dealt with a lot of transgender patients.
	Can I ask you the complete Idiot's question, as a non-medical professional, just a PhD in political science, Emily.
	We do not affirm any other psychological issue.
	If you come in to a medical professional, a psychiatrist or a psychologist, and you say, I think I'm fat, and you weigh 70 pounds, or I think I'm Napoleon, or anything else that is psychological or psychiatric, we don't affirm that condition.
	Why are we affirming somebody who says, I'm not a boy, I'm a girl?
	That's a great question, Sebastian, and the only answer I've come to is that it's a huge industry.
	It's an over $2 billion industry, and it's projected to increase to over $5 billion by 2030.
	So usually if something doesn't make sense, you always ask yourself to follow the money.
	But my issue with following the money, which is a cynical answer but could be the correct answer, and again this might be sheer naivete, allegedly medical professionals are supposed to take the ancient Greek Hippocratic Oath that says whatever you do, whatever medical intervention you engage with, with a patient, The first thing you must do is do no harm.
	Now how does injecting puberty blockers or doing a double mastectomy on a 15 year old girl, how do doctors have a clean conscience when they utterly breach and reverse the whole point of the Hippocratic Oath of First Do No Harm, Emily?
	It's a great question.
	Are you aware that 98% of endocrinologists in the United States get support from these puberty-blocking drug companies?
	You mean the people, for those who aren't familiar, the endocrinologists, the people who deal with hormones in their patients?
	Correct.
	I did not know that.
	I did not know that.
	Alright, so... Go ahead.
	I said 98%.
	Just let that sink in for a minute.
	Yeah, I will.
	It's utterly shocking and I believe you.
	So, where does this go?
	My theory is that 10 years from now, Emily, 15 years from now, we will have a catastrophe.
	We will have an even greater mental health problem in America because of the money-driven, ideology-driven, transgender extremism of today.
	Is that possible?
	It's absolutely possible.
	You're treating psychological illnesses with surgery, right?
	And the same thing with chronic pain.
	When you treat chronic pain with a surgery, my patients don't get better.
	If they do, it's temporarily, but the pain always comes back because you just did a surgery for chronic back pain when it was actually psychological chronic back pain.
	It's hard for a lot of people.
	A lot of people, it's going to be an unpopular opinion with a lot of people, but it's absolutely true.
	There is a huge mind-body connection with chronic pain.
	It's the same thing with treating people.
	And I don't want to say that it's body dysmorphic disorder because it's not true.
	We've studied this for 100 years.
	A very, very small percentage of the population had gender dysphoria, and they were typically very...
	very young boys.
	So why all of a sudden is there a 1500% increase?
	It's not scientifically possible.
	Something else is going on.
	Right, clearly.
	We've got only 30 seconds left.
	What is your advice to those who feel that they're in the wrong body or to the parents of those who say that to them?
	You know, it's really hard because a lot of the counselors are now on board with this insanity.
	And you might think that you can go to a counselor and they may actually make the problem worse.
	So I would say, that's a good question.
	That's why we need to keep the family close.
	If you are involved with a clergy, a pastor that you trust to talk to, In California, they're trying to outlaw that too, right?
	They're trying to make it illegal to have the Bible in here, right?
	Well, they're trying to get doctors struck off if you quote-unquote misinform your patients or spread disinformation.
	God bless you, Emily.
	Stay on the line.
	Tell her she can pick whatever she wants from the Seb Gorka store because we love truth-tellers.
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	Okay, now we can leave them on.
	All right.
	Yeah, John's finishing up.
	Okay.
	All right.
	She's up.
	Hang on.
	Seb wants to talk to her first.
	Yeah.
	Emily.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	God bless you.
	Thank you for coming on.
	The door is always open.
	Oh, you're the sweetest.
	Thank you.
	What did you choose from the website?
	Oh, he didn't get to that part yet.
	Oh, the hoodies are really nice.
	All right, I'll take your word for it.
	All right.
	God bless.
	Bye bye.
	Thanks, Dr. Gorga.
	All right.
	I'm gonna call him up now.
	Give me a moment.
	Oh, yeah.
	What was the tweet, though?
	I need to know what the tweet was.
	Mr. Carpen.
	Carpen.
	Oh, and the story.
	We need to talk about the story.
	You want the mics on for him as well?
	Yeah, mic's on.
	I'm fine.
	Okay.
	Calling him now.
	Hang on, Emily's still on the line.
	Eric is getting the next guest lined up.
	As soon as he gets her, then I'll take Emily.
	I'll get her info.
	Ringing. 90 seconds.
	It went to his voicemail.
	Alright, I'll text him.
	Just get Emily's details.
	Okay.
	Go ahead, John.
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	They went there.
	They voted on it.
	Just as you thought, we were coming out of it all.
	They've done that to children who go to public schools, which is the majority, more than 90% of children in America go to public schools.
	Let's get your reaction.
	Let's talk to Phil Kirpin as well, who's been tweeting about it, writing about it all day.
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	The Committee to Unleash Prosperity is the organization of which he is the president.
	Phil Kirpin, welcome back to the Salem News Network.
	Hey, great to be with you.
	So, CDC just voted.
	The vaccine has been mandated, has been added to the list of immunization practices for public school children.
	What does this mean, Phil?
	Can you help us out here?
	How bad is this?
	Well, it was a unanimous vote, which was ridiculous, but unsurprising, given the way the CDC's conducted itself, you know, for the last two and a half years.
	And this was a vote of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, ACIP, which sets the schedule of childhood vaccinations.
	Now, it's important to know this does not automatically result in mandates.
	States or localities or individual schools, however, frequently use this schedule As the basis for mandates.
	And so you have the plausible deniability where the CDC can say, oh, we haven't mandated anything.
	And then, you know, whatever liberal entity chooses to mandate can say, oh, we're just following the CDC recommendation.
	Take it up with them.
	So it's the same sort of finger pointing back and forth that we had for school shutdowns and masks and all the rest of it.
	So I do worry that while this does not directly result in mandates, that it will be used as the basis for mandates in, you know, more liberal areas or in more liberal institutions.
	And it's really a rather ridiculous recommendation, because the CDC's own data shows 90% of kids have already had COVID.
	And you're requiring them to get a vaccine that doesn't work very well, that doesn't last very long, and it has risks, it has downsides.
	And so I think it's a truly bizarre thing to do.
	The real motivation for this, I believe, is based on the legal status of the vaccine with respect to liability for adverse events.
	The vaccine is currently immune from lawsuits under something called the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, CICP, which is in a bill called the PREP Act that was passed after 9-11 for bioterror concerns.
	And under that law, the shield, the liability protection, ends when the national emergency ends, which is one of the reasons it's been extended over and over and over again, and most recently extended to January.
	With the move by the CDC today, that liability protection can now be moved from the CICP to something called the VICP, the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.
	Uh, which does not depend on an emergency declaration.
	It applies to any vaccine that's on the childhood schedule.
	And so now, when the national emergency ends, and we hope it finally will, you know, with this, with this most recent extension, The manufacturers will continue to enjoy liability protection under a different program.
	Hang on, hang on.
	This sounds twisted, Phil.
	This sounds utterly twisted.
	The liability shouldn't be extended to the group of people who, to all intents and purposes, seem to be immune from the serious side effects of COVID anyway, and especially from children.
	So under what logic do you want to extend immunity from prosecution or liability to a population that that doesn't need immunization for COVID?
	Yeah, well, this is the thing.
	This is what this is what's so twisted about what they're doing.
	Okay, the liability protection is for everyone.
	It's for no one can sue them.
	If they qualify for liability protection, if you get injured by a vaccine that's in the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, you can only go, you can only file a claim with the VICP and get compensation from that fund.
	You cannot file a lawsuit against the manufacturer.
	And so, you know, by putting it on the childhood schedule, they give it, they give blanket liability protection, not just in children, but when the vaccine's administered in adults as well.
	And so that's, I think they're, they think in this case, they're using the You know, they're using the way the law was set up back in the 80s, which is if it's on the childhood schedule, then the immunity, then the liability protection applies.
	They're using that as a way to sort of provide a permanent liability shield without actually voting for one in Congress, doing it by the back door of adding it to the childhood schedule.
	Absolutely shocking.
	It's the Committee to Unleash Prosperity and, of course, American Commitment.
	We're talking to Phil Kirpin.
	You used to follow him at Kirpin.
	What do you predict?
	Is this going to lead to more tension after the midterms?
	Are these guidances going to be followed mindlessly by local authorities?
	What's your prediction?
	You know, it's...
	The last really controversial vaccine that was put on the childhood schedule was the HPV vaccine, which was about 10 or 15 years ago now, and the vast majority of states did not mandate it, although a handful did.
	And so this may be like that, although I think this is going to be a little bit different because it's become so politicized and so tribal that I think that a lot of Democrats We'll try to mandate it and point to the CDC as the basis for that.
	But that's actually a big opportunity for Republicans here just coming a couple weeks ahead of the election.
	One of the very first responses I saw was Lee Delden said, if Hoeckel wins it'll be mandated, if I win it won't.
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	Mm-hmm.
	Hang on a second.
	Okay.
	Minute 40.
	- I'm going to get 40. - All right, I'm going to use, come in with. - We used quite a few cuts today, 90. - Seven, 90. - Seven, and then we're going to take I'm going to tee up two.
	Come in with seven and tee up two.
	All righty.
	What did you need?
	Kirpin and also the professor still.
	Kirpin.
	So I'm going to have the mandate.
	The CDC does it again.
	Vaccines for children.
	Vaccines for children.
	Alright.
	This is E already.
	Alright.
	45 seconds, coming in with seven.
	No liner, Alex?
	No.
	All righty.
	Let me let's debunk some myths here.
	My administration has not stopped or slowed U.S.
	oil production.
	Quite the opposite.
	We're producing 12 million barrels of oil per day.
	And by the end of this year, we will be producing 1 million barrels a day, more than the day in which I took office.
	Oh, you didn't do anything really?
	That's weird, because when we were in the White House, we were exporting.
	We were selling energy.
	We were energy independent.
	So why are you having to grovel to Venezuela and Saudi Arabia if it's just as good under you?
	They really think you're that stupid.
	But the good news is, none of us can be as stupid as Joy Reid, the homophobe.
	Remember her blog?
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	Filthy.
	Disgusting.
	This woman is truly up there with Fredo Cuomo in her stupidity.
	And the things she would have you believe about Florida are truly, in the original sense of the word, incredible.
	Play cut.
	Florida, which I would argue, even with Texas existing, has emerged as the modern state in this country that comes the closest to a modern day version of Jim Crow.
	Now, just hear me out.
	If there is a state that better exemplifies the rot of MAGA Republican rule than the state of Florida that the governor has named in very Orwellian fashion the free state of Florida, I honestly don't know where it is.
	I don't know what it is.
	I mean, Florida has it all.
	A law banning gay people from declaring their existence at school.
	Teachers can actually get fired for it.
	A law against anti-racist policies at work, like you have to let the racism be in the workplace or else.
	The MAGA rot of Florida?
	Is that why people are flooding?
	It's weird!
	patriotic Christian education propaganda in public schools.
	And of course, a concerted effort to make it as hard as possible for anyone who might vote for the out-of-power party, the Democrats, hashtag black people.
	The MAGA rot of Florida?
	Is that why people are flooding?
	It's weird.
	If it's a rotting state, why are people running away from New York to places like Florida? - "It's a good idea." It's strange, isn't it, Joy Reid?
	I wonder why they want to live in places that are less free than, I'm sure you like to hang out, Manhattan, wearing your double-triple masks with your double-triple boosters.
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	We pride ourselves here on America First, especially the third hour one-on-one to go deeper, deeper, to give you access to newsmakers, real experts in the long form that I love.
	I know I've got a show that lasts for three hours and people want the breaking news.
	You know, what did Elon do?
	What senile thing did Slow Joe do?
	We give you that for two hours.
	We give you guests for a couple of segments and calls.
	But the real thing is the long form.
	And let me show you How it should be done, because we're not here for clickbaits or outrage, okay?
	We are here for serious, serious content.
	And there's a young lady who, well, she is a paragon, and should be a paragon not just to other young women, but to professionals everywhere, to broadcasters.
	She was insulted, she was sworn at on a show recently by somebody who is a fool, and this was her response a couple of days after.
	Play cut.
	And I also want to say here too that we have had so many guests on the show so far in the short time that it's been running, and not once have I ever gone out of my way to denigrate or embarrass somebody just for the sake of doing it.
	And I will note, too, that I've been sat opposite people that I really don't like as people.
	And I've been sat opposite people whose ideas really, really rub me the wrong way.
	Whose ideas I never, ever want instituted in any capacity because I think that they're corrosive.
	And yet, in those situations, not once have I attacked them, or embarrassed them, or gone out of my way to be hurtful and unkind to them.
	Because that is not the kind of show that we run.
	That is not the kind of person that I am.
	That is Sidney Watson, who's a better person than I am, because I don't sit down in the same room with people I don't like.
	And if I see people I don't like, like General John Kelly, the seditionist in the White House, I go up to them and I tell them what I think about them.
	Which is something my poor wife has just had to get used to.
	It's just who I am.
	She's got better self-control and we are delighted after maybe a year trying to get her on the show.
	She's Sydney Watson one-on-one.
	Welcome my friend.
	Thank you for having me, Seb Trolley.
	And no, I don't think that I'm a better person than you.
	The difference is that you get a say in who you interact with, whereas sometimes I don't.
	So there is that.
	Look, there is that, but sometimes, you know, you're in a situation where somebody you don't like is in the room.
	I react differently, I think, to that than you did.
	Look, for those who aren't familiar, this woman, why aren't you familiar with her?
	She's got almost 800,000 followers on YouTube, Sydney Watson, with a Y. You've got to follow her on Twitter as well.
	But for those crazy people who've been under a rock for a couple of years, I've known you for a couple of years.
	Very impressed with what you do.
	Tell us, in a nutshell, just give us the elevator pitch.
	What do you do and where do you come from?
	Sydney?
	Well, people are seemingly unfamiliar with the fact that I am actually Australian despite my bizarre accent, which I am trying to get back just by the way.
	I want to sound more like Yousef than the Yanks that are around us.
	So I'm Australian originally.
	I'm from Australia.
	I moved to the United States in 2019 to basically pursue politics because Australians are, by and large, pretty disinterested in politics and kind of just found myself drawn into, I guess, a bunch of drama in the last little while.
	With, you know, the situation that you're referring to, which was getting screamed at effectively by Jack Murphy.
	Are we allowed to say his name on the show?
	I was going to mention it, but I'm so glad that you decided to mention it first because Jack Murphy is an embarrassment to anybody who has testicles.
	I'm not sure he does anymore, but we will discuss that.
	So you left the Antipodes, you came here to be involved in politics.
	you wanted to speak like me which i'm sorry most people think i have a south african accent that really annoys me but but what have you been doing for the last three years and how have you been surviving covet and tell people about what you do because your comment you are like the The long form version as far as I'm concerned of libs of TikTok and you're not anonymous.
	You're a brave woman who has these amazing films where you react to the insanity of the left.
	Am I misrepresenting you?
	Tell us, tell us your mission.
	We've got three million listeners plus the viewers.
	What is Sydney Watson about?
	Well, that is a fantastic question.
	I guess growing up in, by and large, a penal colony kind of made me realize that freedom is really important, and I actually have my mom to thank for that viewpoint, because she's from Ohio originally, and she's just this badass gung-ho woman that, you know, really, really cares about preserving what we have in the West, and I think that's awesome.
	And so growing up in that environment, of course, I was like, well, I hate people.
	So what is the easiest thing that I can do that revolves around not really interacting with them too much?
	And journalism kind of came to the forefront.
	And so when I moved to America, I really wanted to pursue being able to bring ideas to people that they might not otherwise have access to in like a fuller capacity, because you probably know this too, working in the media space, people tend to parrot one another.
	And that's always bothered me.
	And I thought, if I can just deep dive into topics and bring things to the forefront, that people really care about but can't look into themselves, then I think that's what I'd like to do.
	So I started off in the men's rights space.
	In Australia, there's a very strong anti-male rhetoric.
	It's very gynocentric, and that really annoyed me.
	Even though I'm a female, that really annoyed me.
	And so I had protests and things that I ran.
	I talked a lot about it, made a lot of feminists very angry back home.
	And so here I wanted to keep doing the same things.
	I wanted to look into men's rights issues.
	So a lot of the content that I create and continue to create is basically deep dive content.
	So if you go to my channel and you check out my content, you'll find that, you know, you can find a range of different topics, whether it's a men's rights thing or a guns rights thing, At the moment, I'm really stuck on the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard situation simply because, again, I feel like you get a lot of really skewed information and I just go into it and I go, well, what's crap and what's real?
	Let's find the truth between all the nonsense.
	Hang on.
	You said something and I think I misheard it.
	You say you hate people.
	No, no, no.
	I hate people.
	There's no one with the sense of humor that you have that actually hates people.
	So what are you talking about, Watson?
	I'm not a great fan of, you know, the general... I don't know, people aren't great these days.
	And maybe that's just because I spend a lot of time on the internet.
	And I'm very thankful that, you know, many of the people I actually am friends with are lovely, wonderful people.
	I live in Texas now, and Texans are wonderful, lovely people.
	But I also just don't like... I guess, you know, you all qualify my comment.
	I don't like this service industry.
	And that's kind of where I came from with every job that I ever had was just dealing with cranky customers.
	And I would think to myself, why are you yelling at me?
	I didn't do anything.
	I'm just here trying to sell you this handbag.
	Please stop screaming at me.
	Yeah, I've told my family I'm so blessed that I never worked in the service industry.
	I was a furniture remover in college.
	I was a security guard.
	But if I'd had to actually serve somebody a plate of food, I would have got in trouble on the very first day.
	All right, before we get on to all of these big highfalutin concepts, you've got to help me with one thing.
	I've asked Australians for two years straight now.
	Nobody's given me an answer.
	What the hell happened to one of the most masculine cultures in the world?
	I've been to Australia.
	It is paradise on earth.
	How did COVID turn them into a voluntary penal colony again?
	Can you explain this to me, Sydney?
	Well, the first thing that you need to recognize about Australia is that it's not comparable to the United States.
	If anything, it's closer to what you probably experience living in the UK and, you know, basically the way that Brits are a lot of the time.
	Because, you know, Brits, I think, too, love authority.
	And Australians are quite similar.
	And feel free, Seb, to correct me on that one.
	But that's how I've always felt, is that the Brits and Australians love authority.
	And it's kind of strange because it's this weird dynamic where on one hand you have the really true blue Aussies who live out in the country who are like, leave me alone.
	I just want to drink my beer and work my job and hug my wife.
	And then you have the city Aussies who are probably comparable to those here in the US who are like, yay, you know, govern me harder, daddy.
	So there is this dichotomy in Australia.
	It's very strange.
	But I think the prevailing thing here and the best way that I can explain it is that Australians value security over freedom.
	Now, for an American, that is mind-blowing.
	They just go, how?
	How could you possibly trust the government?
	But again, there's such a strong relationship to the government that Australians have where they're either completely politically ambivalent or they trust them with absolutely everything.
	Australia is extremely over-regulated, always has been, and you sort of get used to that and you sort of You sort of expect that, so when the government turns around to you and says, hey, actually, you have to be gulags for two weeks if you have the sniffles, you go, well, okay, the government seems to have my best interests at heart, I suppose I'll just do that.
	But I will say, I do think the breaking point was reached for a lot of Aussies, and I think this was their waking up moment, because people that I know, even, who historically have been Not left-wing necessarily, but just sort of, you know, oh, she'll be right.
	They've turned around and said, oh, she will not be right and you will not tell me what to do.
	And so I think there is a shift happening, but Aussies are very, very difficult people to explain because there is that hyper-masculinity, but it also is overshadowed by this bizarre trust in government.
	Fascinating.
	I think we have one potential title for this segment.
	Govern Me Harder, Daddy.
	She has a way with words.
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	with a a doppelganger and you just you just i'm not gonna explain it it's just hilarious clearly she has a a a funny bone that stretches through her whole body but let's let's talk um about your past life this phrase men's rights always gives me the heebie jeebies i i find it disturbing i find it I think negative association is the biggest weakness for me.
	I associate it with weak men, with men who have no stamina or backbone, the cliché of the incel or what have you.
	Do we need a men's rights movement or do we just need normalcy and to stop the insanity and to understand a man is this, a woman is that, and these things have been true for millennia?
	Yeah.
	Talk to me about how you got involved in all of that and try and educate me.
	Well, I also find the term men's rights activist to be really cringy and I, similarly to you, I don't particularly like when people use it and I certainly don't like when they attribute that to me because I don't think I'm an MRA.
	I just think I'm a person that cares about men and women.
	Because even in recent months and since my experience with Jack Murphy and some of the other things that happened on You Are Here when I was part of it, which was a show that I was hosting, you know, I was sat opposite misogynists who clearly don't like women, who clearly have very strong feelings.
	And so it gave me a unique understanding of, oh, this actually happens.
	It does happen on the other side towards women.
	And so it's helped me, I think, have a greater understanding of when men aren't treated so well.
	And the reason I got involved in this is because, again, Australia hyper-focuses on the behaviour of men.
	So, for example, if a woman is brutally assaulted or if a woman is murdered and it becomes a national story, people will often start the narrative and the rhetoric of, oh, let's teach men not to be violent, let's teach men not to rape, when in reality, the portion of men that are committing crimes like that is small enough as it is.
	And I don't discredit the fact that men commit the majority of crimes anyway, and there's a multitude of reasons for that.
	The narratives that ultimately come out basically demonize and attribute these horrible characteristics to all men, and that's not true.
	And so I think that a lot of men these days are feeling so downtrodden and so overwhelmingly attacked just by virtue of the fact that they happen to be men.
	I mean, think about all the toxic masculinity discussions that you've heard over the years, and all of these brands and leaders in our governments and what have you, who just constantly levy all of their hatred towards the male Species!
	I think to myself, this is not appropriate.
	This is not important.
	And who will fight for men if men themselves really can't fight for themselves?
	So I think that the men's rights thing probably exists out of the fact that we don't let men be men and we don't let women be women.
	So for now, I think there's a need for it.
	But, you know, if we were just to stop attacking each other, perhaps we wouldn't need any of this at all.
	I don't know, it's a hard one, and I get what you're saying, and I agree with you overall, but I also see how badly men are affected by all of this, and it makes my heart hurt, because it goes through the court system, custody disputes, men are taking their lives at a much higher rate than women, even though women try a lot harder but fail a lot of the time.
	So yeah, there's a lot of factors in this.
	All right let me run something past you that kind of caught me unawares.
	I think he's one of the most intelligent podcasters out there.
	I try and listen to every single episode and that's Andrew Clavin and we were having cigars recently and he said you know this war or you know this transgender insanity he said it's primarily a war on women And he sees the main avenue of assault being the feminine, because if you take them out, then everything else crumbles.
	And I'm still struggling with that because I think the whole toxic masculinity thing from the Gillette ad to everything else is also noxious.
	But what do you think about Clavin's take that the primary target is actually women in this war of the sexes, this new war of the sexes?
	Yeah, that's a big claim.
	I think perhaps the transgender thing has a lot to do with transing away the gay.
	I don't know if you've heard that phrase, but I've been looking into it a little bit recently.
	Explain transing away the gay.
	I think that's a fascinating concept.
	So unpack that for our listeners and viewers.
	Well, so, transing away the gay is effectively the idea of taking somebody who would otherwise grow up to be a relatively well-adjusted, we would hope, gay person, and instead wanting a straight child, if that makes sense.
	So rather than having a gay son, you would have a straight daughter.
	And so what's been really interesting... Hang on, hang on.
	But when you say straight... Hang on, when you say straight, you mean a transitioned male.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Yes.
	So now that that boy who would have been attracted to boys is now a girl who's attracted to boys.
	So by, you know, our societal standards, that's a straight person.
	You know there's relationships where you see two transgender people, one of either sex, who are dating?
	It's just like being in a straight relationship with extra steps, you know what I mean?
	The transing away the gay thing is taking someone who, you know, who will be a homosexual or, you know, a lesbian and basically saying, well, you can't be that.
	Instead, let's make you, you know, the opposite sex.
	Now, that can either come from parents, which is that's been that's been super interesting to find out that a lot of parents will push their children towards being transgender because it's easier for some reason For them to accept a transgender child rather than a gay child.
	And that's not just, you know, that's not in the conservative world.
	That's across the board.
	It is the strangest phenomenon.
	And I've reached out to transgender friends of mine or people that I have relationships with and I've said, have you experienced this?
	And a number of them have said, yes, it was easier for my parents to accept me as a transgender person than as a gay person.
	That is huge, Seb.
	I don't understand that at all, but that's just me.
	And then the other part of it is people who know that they're gay, but don't want to be gay, so they transition instead.
	That is fair.
	I never thought I'd have a national radio show where we're talking about these things, but that explication goes a long way to try and make things actually logical in an insane world.
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	So let's go straight in.
	Let's talk about what happened with this fake man.
	And I don't mean he's a transgender woman.
	He's a fake man.
	He's Jack Murphy.
	He dyes his beard.
	He pretends that he's super tough and manly.
	He's a weirdo.
	I saw him once at a reception.
	He is weird.
	He's also weak.
	He's a coward.
	And he's the definition of a cuckold.
	He is.
	The liminal cuckold is who he is.
	He insulted you.
	In front of your co-host, he railed at you.
	You did nothing wrong.
	You read a DM or, you know, one of these paid-for chat things, a question from a viewer.
	He swore at you incessantly.
	Then your co-host takes him out for drinks and dinner.
	As far as I'm concerned, the man who said, I did this because I'm standing up for the truth, he's part of the problem because that's not what a man does.
	As far as I'm concerned, a man always protects the vulnerable, starting with women and children.
	Yeah, so the Jack Murphy thing was interesting because I still think that people now believe that I read the chat pertaining to his legitimate cuckold experiences intentionally, and I didn't.
	I just don't know why I would know something like that.
	And then the way that it played out was very not acceptable to me on a bunch of different levels, and I have tried really hard to be quite temperate about it, although I confess I didn't have the greatest emotional reaction to it.
	I was very taken aback and I was very disturbed that somebody would react in that capacity towards me.
	And then I suppose that at the time I was mad at the response of people around me because I thought I don't necessarily need anybody to support or defend me by virtue of the fact that I'm a woman, although I love that men do feel so strongly about protecting women.
	I think that is one of the greatest things about men as a general rule, that protective instinct.
	But, you know, I mean, I grew up with brothers.
	Like, I've been punched in the face.
	Like, it's fine.
	So I suppose that for me, I was like, well, the reason why you would defend me is simply just because I'm a person.
	If you were in the same room as me, Seb, and someone spoke down to you and I have a lot of love for you, I'd turn around and I'd be like, don't talk to him like that.
	So I think there's this natural response that you should have towards situations where, you know, you jump in because you care about someone and you don't want them to be spoken down to or screamed at or, you know, told to, what was it, F off or whatever he said at the end there.
	He actually told me to F off a few times.
	It was delightful.
	Oh, it was like six times.
	I watched the interview.
	I watched the interview again and let me be clear, one of the most, you know, pathetic things people have said to try and justify Jack Murphy's behavior is that men are simping or white knighting for you.
	No, no, no.
	Simping is when you are sexually attracted to a woman you've never met and you want to defend them because you fancy them.
	What we're talking about is the male instinct, the right thing for men to protect all women and children, which has nothing to do with simping.
	And the idea that this man who wrote an article that he has paid the Wayback Machine to delete, he wrote an article about how it helped his marriage to pick Pick men on Tinder for his wife to have sex with and how it strengthened his relationship.
	That makes him a man.
	No, go back to Shakespeare.
	It makes you a cuckold.
	It makes you the antithesis of man.
	And the idea that you get people to pay you to teach them how to be a man is utterly, utterly pathetic.
	But I'm going to say something that I've only told you.
	I think I've met you twice at a party.
	I've spoken to you maybe three times on the phone.
	The video you did, after what that cowardly, pathetic, invertebrate Jack Murphy did, is one of the most powerful media products I've seen in 10 years.
	The strength you showed, and the clarity of analysis, and the courage with which you spoke, Sidney, should be an exemplar to anyone who ever gets in front of a camera, and I want all of my listeners to know that.
	I really, really, really, like, very much appreciate you saying that because that was a very stressful situation for me to navigate and I felt like there was a lot of competing factors.
	I still feel like there's plenty of competing factors that I constantly am having to navigate.
	I'm not really able to 100% say what I think, which I Really don't like.
	But yeah, I really cannot tell you how much I appreciate that because I wanted to have my say and I wanted to lay some things out and I'm glad that it was received in a way that didn't make people think that I was either A, trying to be a victim, Or B, you know, trying to take stabs at people.
	That's not what I was trying to do.
	I simply wanted to clear the air.
	And, you know, even now looking back, of course we all wish that we could handle things differently and better, but I got to say this, Seb, and I feel comfortable saying this on your show.
	I probably, I'm not so sure if I would say it on anybody else's, but what I learned from that is that there are a buttload of LARPers, so live action role players in the conservative space and in the right-wing space, There's a lot of people who pretend that they support women and that they support other people in the space, when in reality they don't.
	There's a lot of men who are behind closed doors, are nothing.
	They are not anything that they purport to be.
	And then when they're live on air or when they're talking at conferences or to people on the internet, they say, oh yes, I'm this, I'm this, I'm this.
	I'm such a strong man.
	Yes, emulate me.
	And I know for a fact that they're not.
	And so I think the fact that you feel so strongly towards that, and you've been willing to call a lot of this out, I respect immensely.
	And I wish that more people would call this out, because this behavior is very common.
	And it's more common than people realize.
	And when you see it, it kind of gets you caught between a rock and a hard place.
	Because as a woman who has worked in the men's rights field, who feels very strongly about protecting men, Uh, people often will say, oh, you're just being a feminist now because a man was rude to you or because, you know, a series of things happened that you didn't like.
	It's not a feminism thing.
	It's a, I will fight to the death to make sure that men are upheld, to make sure that men feel comfortable in society.
	And I expect the same from anybody who purports to care about me as a person.
	It's, it's, Unfortunate that it has to come down to sex, but it does.
	I mean, there's a lot of men who are LARPers, there's a lot of men who are fake as hell, and I gotta tell you Seb, it bothers me tremendously that they have any sort of influence over others.
	Well, let's talk about how we can do something about those fake men, those fake tough guys in a moment.
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	Now, we don't have a lot of time left, but I want to get you back.
	I don't know if it's going to take another nine months to do so.
	But here's the big question that has been, you know, eating at me for about a year, Sydney.
	And maybe you can help me with your unique perspective and everything you've gone through with fake men like Jack Murphy and others.
	I'm excited by, well, I'm depressed by the transgender agenda, but I'm also excited because people are waking up.
	I'm excited by the impact deep thinkers like Jordan Peterson have had, the success of his books, you know, the make-your-bed philosophy for men and for anybody.
	But here's my real issue, and it really goes to your experience with Jack Murphy on your Blaze program.
	There's a massive component missing.
	It's like there's a jigsaw puzzle and there's this huge jigsaw piece that's most of the puzzle that we don't have in the box.
	And it is real manhood.
	It is the reinvigoration, the revivification, the redefinition or the rediscovery of manhood.
	It's very difficult to talk about what being a man is because if you want, you don't want to talk about it.
	It's embarrassing because it's just natural.
	There's this moment when I was in a, it kind of helps illustrate, I was in a cinema In the country, with my kids, little kids, my wife, suddenly something breaks out in the back of the auditorium and I've been listening to it for a little bit and I realize violence has erupted and I just get out of my seat and I walk towards the violence to see if I can do something to stop it or protect my family.
	And afterwards my wife said, why did you do that?
	And I said, I don't know.
	I didn't think about it.
	A man does that.
	If you're a real man, you do that.
	If you're a, you know, a special forces guy, you run to the gunfire.
	If you're Secret Service, you catch the bullets of the assassin with your body.
	So how do, here's my, let me translate it into simple words.
	How do we go from the intellectual movement of the Jordan Petersons To just the raw rediscovery and, and, and, and, you know, the putting the defibrillator on the body of manhood to waken it up again.
	Well, I think first you've got to remove the, the constraints that are on men.
	So for example, I mean, let's say that you see a pretty girl, let's say that you are not married for a second and you see a beautiful woman at the bar and you want to go and talk to her and you, and you want to, you want to take this woman on a date.
	There is a chance that she's going to turn around and be like, ugh, stop sexually harassing me.
	And so if every time you try to do something that feels right and masculine and that's associated with your manhood to you, you go to try and execute that in real life and you're shot down for it, well, you're going to get to a point where you just go, I'm not even going to do that.
	If everything that's associated with manhood, and by the way, how much people play into these stereotypes?
	I don't know.
	But let's just say that you love hunting or I don't know, you love fishing or digging holes in the backyard.
	I assume men dig holes.
	I don't know.
	And every time you go to do these things, it's as if you're getting kicked in the face for it or told that you're a murderer or whatever the case is.
	You're not going to want to do those things.
	So I think that's a big factor is removing those constraints on men feeling so hyper-aware of their own behavior, particularly towards women, that they don't do anything.
	It's almost like analysis paralysis.
	And then another factor is that a lot of men don't have strong men in their lives.
	So if it's like a trickle-down effect where your dad isn't in the picture or he's not very strong, And then you're born and you have nothing to emulate or nobody to look up to.
	Your behavior is probably not going to be that strong unless you're this hyper masculine dude from the outset, which probably won't be the case.
	And then you have children.
	It's just a trickle on thing where you end up with baby children who scream at women in studios.
	So I think that's another factor.
	And then the last one is that, Seb, have you considered that in our Western culture, and this has been pointed out to me, and I think this is interesting, although I'm not entirely sure what I think, I'd be keen to hear what you have to say.
	We don't have, like, a rite of passage for boyhood into manhood.
	A lot of other cultures do, and they make you do some really, really intense things to, you know, make that passage, but Western culture doesn't really have that.
	I'd be interested to hear if you think it's necessary, I'm not sure if it is, or if it would be a benefit, but I think that maybe even that mental shift from I'm a boy to a man maybe would make a difference for a lot of men.
	All right, fascinating.
	This is going to be the subject of a longer discussion.
	So here are my initial responses.
	Number one, I don't think you can initiate a rite of passage into a culture because that happens over millennia, over eons.
	But the culture can't do it.
	By flicking a switch, but a nation can.
	And I think national service for modern Westphalian nation states is that rite of passage.
	So, you know, having to do really crappy, tough stuff, you know, as a conscript, I mean, I voluntarily joined the British Army when I was in college.
	It was a dare.
	It was a bet.
	I loved it.
	Well, no, I hated it in some parts, but I loved other parts, and I wouldn't miss it for the world.
	So, yeah, I think national service, and I don't mean the Peace Corps, I mean putting on a uniform, learning how to shoot, being imbued with an ethos of serving the other or serving the nation is right on there.
	But let me throw back your language at you.
	You said the restraints have to be removed.
	Firstly, I fully understand.
	My son's college years, when you talk to somebody in their early 20s and his friends and you say, every kiss could be an accusation of rape 12 hours later.
	I mean, I don't know how young men live through that.
	And that is the culture that you're in right now in college.
	You know, you see a girl and you think, oh my gosh, how much has she drunk?
	What is she going to say tomorrow?
	Mind-blowing change in culture.
	And I'm not arguing for promiscuity.
	I'm arguing for a healthy relationship between the two sexes.
	But you use the phrase, remove the restraints.
	That's a passive phrase.
	Nobody's going to remove the restraints for you, so what we have to do is behave in ways that break the restraints in a positive way.
	Am I making any sense?
	No, yeah, yeah, of course you are, yes, and I agree with you.
	I don't have the solution, Seb, I freely admit that.
	Think about this a lot, and I think part of our problem is that we have conditioned women, and this is why so many people are so hostile towards women, and sometimes very rightly.
	When it comes to particularly, like you're saying, the sexual relationship between men and women, you never know how a woman is going to react out of embarrassment, you never know how she's going to react the next day if she regrets something, and it's very sad that consent has almost become Sort of ammunition in these situations, and so if you have young women being trained to think, well, I'm always the victim, I am the universal victim and men are the universal perpetrator, then it is incredibly challenging to fix that.
	And especially if that's underpinning all of your relationships and all of your interactions with the opposite sex, it's going to be strained and it's going to be awful.
	Now, I don't know how to fix that.
	I don't know if that actually means training women not to think that way, rather than training men not to rape, as they love to say, the feminists love to say.
	I don't have a solution to that, but I'm going to think about it now.
	Good.
	That's another reason to continue the discussion.
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	I was a contributor for many years.
	We don't tell our guests in advance, hey, these are the things we want you to talk about.
	What do you think about them?
	We don't test run in emails.
	We don't have areas you can't talk about.
	We don't rehearse them, because we believe in authenticity.
	So I'm going to ask you a question that may be hard for you to answer, because you're a woman.
	And that's sexist.
	No, it's not.
	It's a statement of fact.
	She is a woman and she will be a woman forever.
	Why the hell do you do what you do?
	Because you have more spine and balls than many men in your age category.
	And you are not a stimulant.
	You are an individual who is a model for all, for both sexes of your generation.
	So, was it your tough mom?
	Was it what you saw in Australia?
	I wanna, I want you on camera right now to say why you are truly, in the best sense of the word, a warrior.
	Sydney Watson.
	Uh, Seb, you're so nice to me.
	You, like, you get, you make me emotionally say these nice things.
	Um, okay.
	So that is a great question.
	Uh, I, I am very, very, very, um, flattered that you would, that you would call me a warrior.
	That's kind of, that's kind of badass.
	Can I say, I don't know.
	Yes, you did.
	And you are, you are badass.
	So you may say it.
	I think a couple of factors.
	I, I think there's a couple of factors.
	Um, My dad is the greatest person in the world.
	And he has given me so many really cool characteristics.
	I always say that I don't want to marry my dad because I am my dad.
	He's just the greatest.
	And my dad takes zero nonsense from anybody.
	He will absolutely just tell you to your face that you're a bloody idiot and then move on with his day.
	And he has no problem doing that.
	And then also that coupled with my mom, she's just one of the Most brilliant women that I've ever come across.
	She retains information.
	She has awesome recall.
	And I think growing up in that environment with two really neat parents that were just so supportive, always let me have a say.
	And they were always like, if you're going to argue back with us, Sydney, make your arguments and your ideas rock solid.
	And so that's what I grew up doing, is if I wanted to fight for the right to have an extra hour of television time, I had to have a rock solid reason why.
	And then I guess going through life, I have to attribute this a little bit to the fact that I'm not super empathetic.
	It's that's been a learned thing for me.
	And I think learning to this is going to sound so strange.
	A couple of my friends think I'm actually like on the spectrum because of this, but having to learn how to interact with people and understand like, why are you upset?
	I think in some ways has made me try really hard to get it.
	And because I don't naturally care what anybody thinks of me, and I don't naturally get upset by criticism.
	I think these factors together have kind of put me in this position where I can say what I want to say without fear of what anybody thinks in return, and I really just believe in what I'm doing.
	And you know what?
	Integrity is one of the most important things to me, and I will always strive to do everything with integrity behind it, backing it.
	All right, here's my responses.
	Teach me how to empathize because I still don't know and I'm 51 years old.
	Number two, I need to meet your parents because they really sound epic.
	Number three, Sidney Watson's a free actor, guys.
	If you work in TV or radio and you don't hire this lady now, you're a cretin.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This has been One on One.

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