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Oct. 19, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Stop calling them Democrats. They're Fascists.

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	Greetings!
	Welcome, dear friends!
	Yes, indeed, I have just... He warmed up the seat for me, Dennis Prager!
	We are in... What day is it today?
	It's Wednesday!
	It must be Philadelphia!
	We are in the offices, the broadcast offices of AM 990, The Answer.
	The home to our good buddy, Chris de Gaal, who we will be seeing this evening for our Battleground Talkers.
	Amazing.
	How many cities?
	Six cities in seven days.
	Tonight, we're going to be with Chris, with Dennis, with Mike Gallagher to make sure that we win the election in 20 days and then prepare the ground for the return of America First and MAGA to the White House.
	However, I'm a little bit suspicious.
	I am in the city of brotherly love, which I think has a connection to my producer, Jeff.
	Do you have ties to Philadelphia in any way, shape, or form?
	Lots of ties.
	Most of my family still lives there.
	That's basically where I grew up.
	It's where I worked in my 20s.
	And what did you say to me today when I told you I'll be calling you guys soon, but I'm off to get a coffee?
	What was your message to me, Jeff?
	I said, be safe if you're in Philly.
	All right.
	I don't know if Jeff is flying a drone over me and whether he's just pranking me because I had quite an experience.
	So I was working late till about 4 a.m.
	writing some scripts.
	I went to bed and then I had to pick up my rental car because I will be driving home to the swamp this evening from Philadelphia.
	And I decided to walk from my hotel right next to City Hall.
	City Hall is a beautiful building.
	Jeff, you have some nice buildings downtown.
	And it used to be nice around there, but it's not anymore either.
	Oh, let me tell you a story about walking from my hotel to the Hertz rental office, which, by the way, Hertz, if your client is 50 minutes late, you really shouldn't give their car away.
	OK, really?
	I have a booking.
	I got there.
	No car.
	Thank you very much.
	So I had to take an Uber an hour away to another Hertz office.
	But guys, try a little harder.
	But as I'm walking from my hotel, just a little story to share with you.
	I don't know if Jeff got on the phone to his friends back in Philadelphia and just wanted to prank me a little because it was straight out of a movie.
	I'm walking past this neo-gothic beautiful city hall and there are some people in uniforms, I think they were maybe maintenance staff and one of the security guards, standing in a little alcove outside city hall as I could smell the stench of a certain Non-traditional tobacco product wafting across the square in front of City Hall.
	It was quite a scene.
	A nice black lady, I think she was a security guard, as she's smoking her cigarette, yes, a real cigarette, with her colleagues in the cold.
	It's a little chilly here in Philly.
	She actually said the following words.
	It was as if I was tuning in to An old evergreen episode of Rush Limbaugh, or just any decent conservative talk show host.
	And she said, yeah, it would be nice if they took the mental health crisis seriously.
	And I thought, there's no way that's real.
	Jeff has asked somebody to punk me.
	They saw me coming from their drone and said, hey, just drop this little flavor of Philadelphia.
	Just say something like, I wish the politicos would get this mental health thing seriously taken and address it.
	What do you think about that, Jeff?
	I have to ask you.
	The people of Philadelphia, on their smoke break, are talking about their bosses in City Hall not taking mental health seriously.
	Finally, hopefully people will start waking up and realize that there's a big problem in the city.
	Because it has gotten so bad.
	It's unbelievable.
	Do you have hope for Philly?
	Because flying into Philly, it's a beautiful city.
	I mean, from a distance, when you can't smell the ganja, we don't see the filth.
	It's a beautiful city.
	But to have somebody who's clearly support staff for City Hall say it's out of control, that's probably a good sign?
	I hope.
	I mean, it's been really bad now for a few years, so hopefully people will finally kind of get the message.
	But that DA that started all this stuff five or six years ago, he won his primary easily last year.
	That's really when I kind of lost hope for the city.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So I have to share with you.
	We were on a platform last night with with Dennis, with Mike and with Alfredo Ortiz of the Job Creators Network.
	And we're going to have one of his colleagues on later today.
	But we've got an amazing show for you.
	the truth about the polls, what they're not telling you, the lies, the war that has again, again been reignited just a few moments ago by Joe Biden against the energy industry and the oil production companies.
	But here's a couple of things I need to share with you.
	Dennis last night said something that was so profound in front of an audience, the biggest audience to date.
	I'm very, very impressed with what happened last night.
	We had an audience of about 700 people.
	We're going to have 1,200 tonight.
	We're going to be in the Fuge in Philadelphia, sell out.
	This is the old centrifuge that the Air Force created to train astronauts.
	Somebody bought the centrifuge, like out of that James Bond movie, Moonraker, where you simulate zero gravity and 10 Gs and 20 Gs.
	That's where we're going to have our Battleground Talkers event tonight.
	But last night, Dennis explained what the real philosophical challenge for all conservatives is.
	And after he waxed lyrical, I took the microphone and I said, you need to understand the importance of what this man just said.
	What he just said is probably the most important thing you're going to hear, not tonight, not this week, not this month, but probably this decade.
	And it has to do with Your job, all three million of you listening to the show today, your responsibility for not only understanding what conservatism is, but explaining it and being able to explain it to others, others who don't understand, others who have been bamboozled, who have been indoctrinated.
	And I want to do it justice, so I'm going to save it for the next segment, because it deserves an hour, it deserves two hours.
	We decided with Dennis we're going to have a monthly cigar podcast, but that's just fun.
	This is serious.
	So let's talk about how that translates into real life.
	We'll talk about the strategy, the big picture stuff in a second, but let's talk about the next 20 days.
	This is from Mike Gallagher.
	I stole it from him, but I give him credit.
	You've heard it a thousand times.
	This is the greatest, most significant election in your lifetime.
	Well, this time, it's actually true.
	This time, if we don't win, with a Democrat party that will have an even greater majority in the Senate and the House, then we will see the lowering of the age for voting, packing of the Supreme Court, between 20 and 30 million illegals amnestied and given full citizenship.
	We will see the dismantling of everything you care about.
	So how do we translate that into something concrete?
	It's this easy.
	You, right now, you've got 20 days.
	You need to identify around you, in your family, amongst your work colleagues, your friends, people who, for whatever reason, are good people, but aren't going to vote.
	And you need to talk to them, and you need to offer your services.
	Every single one of you, I don't care where you live, you can be in California, you can be in Texas.
	You need to take 10 people to the polling stations this election.
	Each one of you.
	If you do that for people who are going to sit at home, watch the game, think that it's not worth their time, or just don't understand the stakes, then there will be no America to save.
	So the tactical response to what Dennis shared with me is that you, every single one of you, needs to be a force multiplier.
	You're listening to America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	So much more to discuss and to share with you.
	The number here is 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
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	We'll be back after these messages.
	Is that echoing coming from us, perhaps?
	It's like interference in the back.
	Oh.
	Might be something to do with just the... connection.
	Alright, I need the cut sheets.
	Yes.
	Seventeen cuts, including some from yesterday.
	Was it emailed as well?
	Uh, Geoff?
	He says yes.
	We have a Border Battles embed in this segment.
	Border Battles, okay.
	All right, good.
	We should get Sokolon.
	What's better, Thursday or Friday, Jeff?
	I'm texting Pre8.
	I've been texting about it.
	He's not available for a little bit.
	Okay.
	He was able to do Monday and then couldn't.
	Wasn't that crazy?
	Those workers at City Hall.
	Yeah, I am surprised.
	Actually use the phrase, when are they going to take the mental health crisis seriously?
	This is having a cigarette.
	Maybe that's good news for November.
	Yeah.
	You want to post that monologue?
	Yes, your job for the next 20 days.
	Uh-huh.
	It's already 20 days.
	Do we want to record that tease for the second hour?
	Yeah, sure.
	All right.
	- Okay. - Let me just put my stopwatch on.
	What is the second hour?
	Okay, good.
	Ready?
	Ready?
	Eric?
	Hello?
	Hello?
	You there?
	Is anybody there?
	Hello, Seb?
	Yeah, what's going on?
	You can hear me now?
	Yeah.
	Okay, I was talking all that time and for some reason you couldn't hear me.
	Can you not hear in your earpiece?
	Yeah, I wasn't hearing anything.
	Huh, that's weird.
	Okay, let's go ahead and do this then.
	Can you hear me count down here?
	Alright, five, four, three, two, What is the truth about the polls?
	Can we trust any of them?
	20 days to go.
	We'll talk to the man who knows the most reliable outfit out there is Trafalgar, and we'll have the founder, Robert Kahlil, with us.
	Also, the war on energy.
	They've done it again.
	Biden is going to stick you with... We'll explain what you can do about it on America First.
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	That's right.
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	Because we're happy warriors.
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	Welcome back, dear friends.
	We are in the mobile studios of America First, hosted at AM 990, The Answer in Philadelphia, and we are so happy to be here.
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	So, what did Dennis say yesterday?
	And it goes to whatever you care about the most.
	I don't know what your issue is.
	Of course, I'm a broadcaster, so freedom of speech is right up there.
	It has to be.
	It should be for all Americans.
	But deep down, as the child of a former political prisoner who was persecuted, tortured, arrested at the age of 20 by a totalitarian regime, the Second Amendment for me is sacrosanct.
	It's at the top.
	It is the one thing that makes everything else possible.
	That is the one civil right.
	That guarantees all the others and it is the reason why government should be afraid of us.
	We should not be afraid of them.
	But it doesn't matter where your central gravity lies in terms of political issues, constitutional rights.
	Here's the really big picture.
	Say you're talking the next 20 days to somebody who admits to you That they're undecided.
	Now, there is a shocking figure that between 28 to 35 percent of American voters choose the candidate whom they're going to vote for in the last nine days before an election.
	Now, to you and I, that sounds insane.
	If you're a conservative, you know who you're voting for long before the last week and a half.
	But most Americans aren't like you.
	They're not political junkies and they're not sure of their value system or their, let's be kind here, they're not sure of how their value system connects to those in political power because they don't follow the news.
	They just want to pay the bills at the end of the month.
	They want to make sure that Everything's okay at home and at work.
	So what happens when somebody like that, who you have a relationship with, says, you're a conservative, right?
	And you say, yeah, I'm a conservative.
	And then they ask you, what does that mean?
	What is a conservative?
	Do you know what you'd say?
	Do you have A ready answer to what conservatism means?
	Because if you don't, we have a problem.
	Because we can't save America if we can't effectively communicate our value system.
	And I don't mean, you know, give them a three-hour lecture on Alexis de Tocqueville, the Founding Fathers, Hume and Locke.
	No, no.
	I just mean three minutes on what it means.
	And this is what Dennis shared with us last night, and this is why it was so important.
	Our job is not to explain the what.
	Oh yeah, I'm for the Second Amendment, I'm for freedom of speech, I'm for small government.
	Our responsibility is to explain the why.
	I learned this a long time ago.
	Dennis has been studying the Talmud, he's been studying, he's been writing exegetical works on the Old Testament his whole life.
	He's now published his Rational Bible, the Deuteronomy volume just last month.
	He knows.
	He knows the why.
	Because he knows the Bible.
	He knows what Judeo-Christian civilization means.
	Can you explain the why of conservatism?
	Now, I was blessed.
	I spent 14 years with the Benedictines.
	I'm a cradle Catholic.
	I still call Dennis my rabbi, but I'm a cradle Catholic.
	I went to the same Benedictine monastery school for 14 years in West London.
	And then, I don't know for my sins, I ended up in a college, a small college, in the University of London that was run by Jesuits.
	Not the liberal, woke Jesuits of today.
	If you're under the age of 15, you're a Jesuit.
	You're probably woke.
	It's not good.
	I'm talking about the old school Jesuits.
	I'm talking about the guys, the kind of people who were in prison with my father in a communist political prison.
	Those Jesuits taught me philosophy and theology for my undergrad.
	And let me assure you, it was painful.
	The mental strain of going through the ancient Greek texts of Plato, of Aristotle, of Socrates, we studied them all.
	And then all the way up through the greats, the founding fathers of the Christian faith, Augustine, Thomas Aquinas, modern philosophers, Descartes, Kierkegaard, Wittgenstein, It was painful, but I wouldn't miss it for a moment.
	I'd go and do it again if I had to.
	Why?
	Because I am now in a position to explain the why.
	Why I'm a conservative.
	Why what we do, and this is what Dennis does every day and has done for 40 years, 40 years he's been on radio, is to explain that what conservatives do is we conserve that which has been demonstrated to be good.
	That is our philosophy.
	We have a civilization that has values that have proven themselves for more than 2,000 years because it's the Judeo-Christian civilization.
	As such We know that it is our job to protect those values such as marriage, the role of a man and a woman, the family unit as the building block of our civilization, independent liberty, respect for the individual based upon the fact that our lives, our entity is made in the image of our Creator.
	The left wants to destroy.
	The left is infatuated with the new.
	Do you know why you're a conservative?
	That's why we're here.
	Sometimes it pays to get a little bit more philosophical, but you need to be able to explain what your philosophy means.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Next up, shocking news from the Heritage Foundation.
	For the first time ever, America has been rated as weakened in its military power.
	We'll find out why from our buddy, Jim Carrafano.
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	This is the Salem News Channel.
	I am Sebastian Gorka.
	Thank you.
	Hey, JCN just said to cancel.
	Okay, good.
	Okay.
	Do you want to do two?
	You could have Caraphano for two, then.
	Yes, excellent.
	No worries.
	And that story is in the stuff you sent me, right?
	It was top of the rundown, yes, from Daily Caller.
	All right, the important one is... Oh, I got it here.
	Okay, good.
	US index of military strength, I think is what they call it, every year.
	Yeah.
	I'm going to do a mic check real quick.
	I'm turning down the comms, see if he can hear us in his earpiece.
	I can hear you, Alex.
	Okay, he can't hear us when the comms are down.
	Okay.
	Interesting.
	I can hear you now.
	Alex said he couldn't, you couldn't hear us when the comms were down, though, which, hence that.
	Yeah.
	Any idea why that might be, Alex?
	I'm checking some settings.
	Hold on.
	They want the mics on for Jim?
	Yeah.
	All righty.
	Two minutes, 40 seconds.
	Is he up?
	Is he up?
	Yes, he's on the line now.
	Hey, Jim?
	Jim?
	Hey, I'm on the road, I'm in Philly, but when I saw that story, I said we have to get you on.
	Thanks for doing this.
	Oh, sure, you bet.
	So, did the book just come out?
	Yeah, it literally came out yesterday.
	Okay, perfect.
	Alright, so you'll walk us through this unbelievable news.
	But not surprising.
	Yeah, not surprising, sadly.
	Actually, I want to tee up with that crazy story about the reporter.
	Two minutes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Where is that?
	I think that was the story Alex sent you.
	I got, yeah, the Rolling Stone.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	You couldn't hear Alex just there?
	Oh, um, when?
	Uh, just late.
	No.
	No, I'm not hearing anything now.
	Okay.
	Alex is working on it, but apparently you aren't able to hear us when comms are down for some reason.
	90 seconds, by the way.
	Okay.
	What does that mean when comms are down?
	To where it doesn't go out on the video stream.
	Okay.
	No, no, no.
	During the show, he won't be able to hear the cues when I give him the ads.
	Call John right now.
	He'll be able to tell you what it is.
	Hey, for Newsmax, Rich Barristow said he could do it.
	I haven't heard back from Andy.
	Are we only supposed to keep it as the original, then?
	Yeah, yeah.
	If positive is incommunicado, then original.
	Just tell it WASA.
	50 seconds.
	Not coming in with any cuts.
	Carafano... I need to see the cut sheet.
	Hang on, I need to open this.
	Dr. G, do you want a text message notification for the ad?
	No, no, just... I'll watch the time here.
	Come in with cut 4.
	Come in with cut 4, Obama.
	Alrighty.
	25 seconds.
	25 seconds.
	Mic's off.
	Mic's off.
	Mic's off. Mic's off. Mic's off. Mic's off. Mic's off.
	You guys will recall there was a big debate inside the White House about whether I should publicly affirm what was going on with the Green Movement because a lot of the activists were being accused of being tools of the West and there was some thought that we were somehow going to be undermining their
	Oh, people dying.
	He's not very good without a teleprompter, is he?
	Eric, I'm not very impressed with this guy when he doesn't have a teleprompter.
	That was Obama, right?
	Yeah, supposedly one of the greatest speakers in modern American politics.
	Yeah, it's true what's been said.
	He's a great reader, not a great speaker.
	Well, yeah, at least he can read a teleprompter, unlike Biden.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First, coming to you from AM 990, The Answer, in Philadelphia.
	We are on our Battleground Tour.
	Shocking news from the Rolling Stone.
	We never quote the Rolling Stone, because they're a bunch of hags.
	But maybe one of them has a conscience.
	It's Tatiana Siegel.
	Here's the headline.
	FBI raids star ABC News producers' home.
	Why?
	Why did the FBI at 5am in the morning raid James Gordon Meek's home?
	Does it have anything to do with the book he was writing about the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan?
	Well, let's give you the truth about the state of the military.
	Every year our buddies at the Heritage Foundation, the Conservative Mothership, launch, publish an incredible book.
	It is a ranking of the militaries of the state of the US military.
	It has newly been released this year's edition, and it has a shocking finding about America, and we are delighted.
	I saw the news, had to get him on by phone, the Vice President of Heritage, Colonel Dr. Jim Carafano.
	Welcome back.
	Hey, it's great to be with you.
	You know, this is our ninth edition of the index, and the reason why we started this was because, as somebody who's been working with DoD forever, you know this, every time DoD would do An assessment, a quadrennial defense review, whatever, whatever administration is a Republican Democrat, they would just redo the baseline so everything came out fine.
	And so you could not go from one, and we can go back to things for decades, the bottom up review, the base, whatever, you could not go from one to the other and say, are we better or worse?
	They all adapted standards of measure to accommodate their politics.
	Right, the game was rigged.
	So what we did was we established a baseline of looking at the US military in the same way every year.
	And as you know, just It doesn't matter just what you bring to the fight.
	It also matters what your enemy has and where you're fighting.
	Let's go back in time.
	You and I are of a certain vintage.
	The big publication during the Cold War was the military balance.
	Do you remember out of London a double I double S that ranked the Warsaw Pact forces by country against the NATO?
	You know, you had to compare apples to apples.
	That's the key.
	Right, and to be honest, and they still do this, it's useless.
	Because it gives you a bunch of statistics with no context.
	No quality, no quality.
	It's quantitative over qualitative.
	Here's how many tanks you have, here are how many airplanes.
	It doesn't say what they're going to be used for.
	So it makes a big difference whether you're Switzerland or the United States.
	So we look at, objectively, where we might have to fight Who we might have to fight against and the quality and quantity of forces that we bring to the table, including things like readiness and training and stuff like that.
	And it is completely objective and it's completely thorough.
	As a matter of fact, you could go to the Pentagon today and say, give me your, give me your, uh, equal thing of the heritage report.
	And they couldn't do it.
	Nobody in the world has done this.
	We're the only people in the world because it takes an enormous amount of effort.
	It's 500 pages.
	Thousands of footnotes.
	This is the most comprehensive, unclassified assessment in the world.
	And Jim, this unclassified document that anybody can download right now at heritages.org, which country had the most downloads of last year's report, Jim?
	Well, Shaq, I was going to say, if you think this is just a partisan thing, who cares what they think, the number one audience for the U.S.
	data is China.
	And as a matter of fact, yesterday, the Chinese Navy, they have these press clippings of, you know, important things to read.
	The number one story that they had was on our report.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	The Chinese naval equivalent of the DoD's early bird had your report at the top.
	Right.
	So, so that's what we do.
	And I can explain why.
	And if we could just jump to the headline, this is the first time in the nine years that we've rated the U.S.
	military that we've ever rated the military as a whole as weak.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	So here's the blockbuster headline.
	This is why it is downloaded by our enemies, because it's truthful, it's objective.
	First time ever in nine years that America has been graded militarily weak.
	How is that possible?
	Jim's going to explain it for us all here on America First.
	Then we will take your calls.
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	Your reaction to this report.
	We'll get the details from Jim in a moment.
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	There we go.
	Hey, Jim, I only have the summary from the Daily Caller because I'm on the road.
	So we'll do it in front of the whole radio audience.
	But while we're on rumble, give me the qualitative.
	What are you measuring?
	Right.
	So we look at, for example, we look at the three main theaters, Western Europe, The greater Middle East and the Indo-Pacific.
	So on the threat side, we look at the North Koreans, the Iranians, the Russians and the Chinese.
	And we provide a qualitative quantitative assessment of that.
	We also look at the size of the military capabilities, our friends and allies, and also how much infrastructure is in that part of the world.
	If you have to operate there, how easy is it to operate?
	And then on the U.S.
	side, we do separate assessments for each of the forces.
	So the Air Force, the Navy, The Marines, the Army, and the Space Force, and then we do a special carve-out and look at strategic nuclear weapons and missile defense, and so that's a whole separate category.
	I presume you've got a special chapter on Ukraine?
	I don't think so, not in this edition.
	Because it's an annual thing, so we were well into the production of this when the wars started.
	It's quantitative and qualitative.
	We look at the hard numbers, but then we also look at things like the testimony that the service chiefs give and other data.
	The key thing is, again, we grade everything in the same way every year.
	You get a consistent measure from year to year.
	We don't grade things you can't grade.
	For example, we don't give a grade on cybersecurity.
	Because it's just very difficult from a quantitative or qualitative perspective in an unclassified realm to do that.
	I mean, it's important, right?
	Nobody's arguing that, but if I can't give it a grade, I'm not going to create a false sense of assumption.
	And when we go live, there's kind of really three factors that really I can hear you, yeah.
	that really explain why we've dropped in.
	This is, you know, we were going up under Trump.
	And so this is actually an almost complete U-turn.
	So I'll ask you about the factors, and then I'll ask you about the trend line, okay?
	Okay.
	Perfect.
	Great, thanks.
	Thank you.
	I can hear you, yeah.
	I can hear you.
	Right.
	it.
	Oh, can you do the Biden cut?
	Well, boy.
	What is your response to Republicans who say you are only doing this SPR release?
	to help Democrats in the midterms.
	Where have they been the last four months?
	That's my response.
	Is it politically motivated, sir?
	No, it's not.
	Look, it makes sense.
	I've been doing this for how long now?
	It's not politically motivated at all.
	No, no, we're just 20 days from the election, not politically motivated at all to release millions of gallons from the Strategic Oil Reserve.
	Not at all!
	I mean, come on!
	I mean, it's like asking the Saudis.
	Don't, don't, don't, don't, please don't do anything about the price of oil until the midterms, please.
	That was Biden a few moments ago.
	Absolutely unbelievable.
	They're going to crush you continually for two years, especially if you're a small business owner.
	Not only 60 million Americans working for small businesses, there's 30 million businesses themselves and they don't care about you.
	Why?
	Because you don't have a big lobbyist!
	You don't have people parked in D.C.
	lobbying for you.
	There's one organization that fights for you.
	It's the Job Creators Network.
	We had Alfredo Ortiz on the podium yesterday with us.
	It was amazing, along with Dennis Prager, Mike Gallagher.
	They are the advocates for small business owners.
	If you want to fight with them, they're looking for a group of brave young men and women who will advocate for small businesses.
	Please go to JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
	And if you're in Erie, Pennsylvania or Stewart, Florida, Check out their bus tour that is traveling the country.
	We're going to see them this evening here in Philly.
	Go to thegreatopportunityproject.com to check out their amazing series of events.
	That's thegreatopportunityproject.com.
	All right, we are back with the man who is responsible for the portfolio that That's closest to my heart.
	It's national security, it's foreign policy at the Heritage Foundation, heritage.org.
	Shocking, first time ever in nine years their measure of U.S.
	military power has been graded weak in their publication.
	You can get it right now.
	Jim Carafano, Colonel Carafano, my friend.
	So what are the, first let's look at the trend line.
	What was the trend line in recent years for U.S.
	military power?
	Well, under Trump, it was going up.
	And the reason for that is really, we all know about Obama's famous peace dividend.
	Like, even though there was no peace, he essentially was looking to cut or flatline the defense budget.
	And as a result of that, we really saw kind of reductions in readiness and capabilities across the board.
	So when Trump came in, in his first term, he focused on increasing defense.
	And where he really put the emphasis, which kind of made sense, is on training and readiness.
	If you have to fight tomorrow, that's the thing you need the most.
	I tell people, for example, the F-35 is the finest fighter plane in the world.
	If it doesn't have a superbly trained pilot, it's just a target.
	You have to have trained and ready forces, so you put a lot of money against that.
	We saw the trend lines turning around for that reason.
	Two things really happened.
	Which, when you have, you know, Biden's had flatline budgets, and with inflation, that actually means you're- A cut.
	It's a cut.
	A cut in defense.
	So you have that problem, and when you look, so you're spending less on defense, you're distracting it with climate change, and DEI, and drag queen shows, and gay pride parades, all those distractions.
	While that's going on, you have to realize we do, as a baseline, what do you measure against?
	And it's the capacity of the US military to fight in two places at once.
	And if you think about this, this makes perfect sense.
	We have responsibilities all over the world.
	If you are concentrating in one place, you've opened up opportunities for enemies to do things in other places to take advantage of that.
	And so we have to have the capability to respond in places at once.
	And so for today, for example, even though we're not fighting in Ukraine, We're providing them military aid, we have logistical support, we have troops frontline defending NATO.
	What would happen if something happened in Taiwan?
	Well, if you reduce capacity to operate in both places, that really affects your ability to provide for conventional and strategic deterrence.
	So for you add those reasons up, and Biden really, in just two years, has managed to oversee one of the most significant declines in military capability that we've seen in recent memory.
	Right, so here's the big question that everybody's going to ask if they hear the news, that Heritage, that doesn't do politics, it does policy, it's conservative, but it does policy.
	If for the first time in nine years, when they're grading military power in the United States, you have given us a weak grade.
	As somebody who's been doing this for decades, who served in the U.S.
	Army, who knows about what it means to have a unit that is ready, or an armed service that is ready, How much of a sucking chest wound is this?
	What does it take to get the trend line back?
	Is it recoverable?
	How long does it take?
	Talk to us about what would happen next if we wanted to change it, Jim.
	Well, so there's two parts to this, and only half of it has to do with defense.
	You know, we always get glib emphasis from people, it's like, just stop wasteful spending or get rid of things, you know, eat anymore or just focus on the things that are really important.
	Um, you know, this is like somebody working on a car and saying, well, we'll just focus on the things that are really important.
	So what, like the engine and then the brakes or the steering wheel.
	And you know, the whole thing has to work.
	Otherwise you don't really have anything.
	So we cannot economize our way through this.
	And, but so it does require investing in building back the capabilities that we need, but that's a two sided coin because we are literally spending trillions of dollars.
	on wasteful domestic spending, which is both impoverishing us and undermining our economy, and is squeezing out and driving inflation, and squeezing out all the space for responsible things government should do, like military defense.
	And so we really do have to address both sides of this.
	We have to address this domestic spending madness, literally a taxpayer genocide.
	And then we've got to focus resources and capabilities on things that will do the most good for most Americans.
	And in many ways, that does start with providing for the common defense.
	That's an amazing phrase, this taxpayer genocide.
	If we can stop the insanity on domestic spending and the wokeness, this is something that could at least see a significant turnaround in a new administration.
	So you could put things in place to get us out of the weak classification in a couple of years.
	What are you saying, Jim?
	Yeah, I mean, you know, under Obama it was, well, I'll only let you spend a dollar on defense if you spend a dollar on everything else.
	Now, under Biden, it's, we're not going to spend any more money on defense, but we're going to spend $10 on other stuff, which actually will impoverish you.
	I mean, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
	So it's, we need, you know, you know, they're saying, and I say, you know, when you do policies, they have to keep America free, safe and prosperous, and you don't get credit for two out of three.
	Free politicians.
	They come into office and they say, I want peace through strength, I also want fiscal responsibility, and I also want to do things that allow Americans to live their lives like they should.
	And if you have policies that don't do all three of those, you're wrong.
	Goes back to my monologue, what it means to be a conservative, free, safe, and prosperous.
	He's nailed it.
	Find out for yourself why this is a shocking, shocking, news-breaking story.
	Heritage.org and join them today as well.
	Thank you for a special, usually it's Fridays, but Jim had to join us today.
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	Boom.
	Boom.
	Um.
	Um, yeah, it was good. - Is there a physical copy of that book he was talking about?
	Yeah, they print some.
	They give out at events when they're promoting it.
	But it's mostly a PDF.
	It's fat.
	It's like 400 pages or something.
	Um, will you print out for me for tomorrow, just the contents page of the new index?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Let's what should we call that?
	Um, um, US military, uh, colon.
	Officially weaker under Biden.
	Yes.
	Officially weaker under Biden.
	Yeah.
	Sad stuff.
	Alright, this is... Yeah, this is E already.
	I know.
	Explain Cut 11 to me, Geoff.
	What is it?
	The Project Veritas.
	Oh, the Project Veritas?
	Eric Adams' aide basically saying that, you know, the immigration stuff makes... Are you not able to hear me?
	Yeah, I can hear you.
	Yeah.
	Wanna come over there?
	Um, no, because I need to tee though.
	Okay.
	I'll go straight to calls.
	Stretched pause, got it.
	Fifteen seconds.
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	actually telling the Saudis, look, if you're going to really reduce the amount of petroleum you're going to give us, can you at least do it after the midterms?
	I want to know if that's true.
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	Making sense out of today's nonsense, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	I like being in my own studio, just outside the fetid, malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	But to hang out with my buddies, Dennis Prager, Mike Gallagher, and tonight, Chris Stegall in Philly, that's fun, too.
	Fun, too.
	And I do try to keep abreast of other colleagues in the conservative sphere.
	Chris Plant is one of my close buddies.
	He had a clip from somebody we've just invited back on the show to explain this to us.
	Not only did Biden ask the Saudis, hey, don't do anything with the price of oil before the elections.
	He just released millions of gallons from the Strategic Reserve.
	Nothing to do with the midterms in 20 days.
	Let's listen to, I guess this is a real journalist, challenging him.
	Play cut.
	What is your response to Republicans who say you are only doing this SPR release to help Democrats in the midterms?
	Where have they been the last four months?
	That's my response.
	Look, it makes sense.
	-No, it's not.
	-This motion three weeks before the midterms? -Look, it makes sense. I've been doing this for how long now? It's not politically motivated at all.
	No, not at all.
	Nothing to do with that.
	But when President Trump wanted to buy cheap, cheap oil to bump up our strategic reserves, guess what happens?
	The Democrats blocked the move.
	Now, just to make up the difference of what he's getting rid of is going to cost 300% more because of the price of oil.
	Let's talk to somebody who can help us navigate to the truth.
	That amazing clip I heard on my buddy's show.
	She is the president of the Western Energy Alliance, Kathleen Gama.
	Welcome to America First.
	My pleasure.
	All right, so help us out here, Kathleen, if you would.
	What is the truth about the price of oil and perhaps just a neophyte concept when the government In the personage of the man in the White House says, hey, oil companies, hey, private gas stations, do your bit and cut the cost of gas.
	What happens?
	Who controls the price of gas and who's going to pay at the end of the day?
	Well, President Biden has more to do with the price of gas than we do individually, that's for sure.
	So I represent producers in the Rocky Mountain West.
	And we would love to be able to produce more but for regulations meant to suppress the supply of American oil and natural gas but for stoppages to pipelines and other projects that could help us increase energy for here and for our allies abroad.
	We would love to be able to increase production.
	But for regular financial maneuvers by the left to try to starve our industry of capital so that we cannot invest and produce more.
	So rather than berate us, the president could actually control his regulatory state, but he's not going to do that.
	He is to behold into the climate change agenda.
	So for him to reverse course and actually encourage production here instead of trying to stifle it is just something he can't bring himself to do.
	So he, in a desperate attempt, is just shaking the finger at us and trying to get it pulled off of himself.
	But in all honesty and in all reality, voters are starting to point the finger right back at him.
	And when we are told by the messaging machine out of this administration that clearly detests and wants to get rid of the internal combustion engine, doesn't believe in freedom of movement, thinks that everybody can buy a Tesla, when they say, oh, but we're giving out licenses to drill on federal land.
	We're not an obstacle.
	Are they lying, Kathleen?
	Well, they do have to move forward with permitting and leasing on federal lands, although they have done that very begrudgingly.
	But there are a whole host of other ways that the administration can help to suppress American production.
	So, yes, they have slowed down things on federal lands.
	Leasing is almost to nothing.
	But there are many other regulations that they move forward with, and some of the most damaging are those meant to deny us of financing.
	So there's pressure on banks not to lend to us.
	There's pressure on financiers not to give us equity, grant us equity.
	So it's really expensive right now for us to get capital so that we can increase production.
	So will you break down?
	Because that's really very ominous.
	That's creepy.
	Businesses, I don't care what your business is, you need access to lines of credit.
	If you're investing, if you're going into new areas, you're buying infrastructure, you need the assistance of banks.
	In what shape, because that's a serious accusation, what shape and form Is that pressure being exerted?
	Is it official?
	Is it behind the scenes?
	Is it the press conferences from Granholm?
	Can you talk to us about what the real obstructions are to those who are just trying to provide a service and a good to Americans who just want to be mobile?
	Well, there has been pressure from the left for several years now, through shareholder activism in particular, that is meant to deny this industry of capital.
	So that Shareholder activism, particularly from Vanguard, BlackRock and other institutional investors, is specifically meant to cut back on the amount of oil and natural gas that banks and other financial institutions invest.
	So what this administration has done is come in and put in place people into the agencies that share that same agenda.
	So those climate change activists are now in the administration.
	And they're formerly formally moving forward with regulation meant to deprive us through financial regulatory levers like the Securities and Exchange Commission specifically meant to deny us from capital and ultimately to impose a carbon budget on the economy so that
	People can't produce the goods and services that consumers demand and ultimately I think they want to constrain whether you can buy a car or not or what your carbon budget is so that you can only purchase so many goods and services and use so much energy a year.
	Now that's further on down the line but that's the ultimate result of these policies.
	Well, we've got some fascinating breaking news about the trouble that both BlackRock and potentially Vanguard are in because they have gone woke.
	We'll be discussing those with former Congressman Dave Brat later this hour.
	He is the Dean of the Business School.
	But let me get very concrete.
	We're talking to Kathleen Eskama from the Western Energy Alliance.
	She's the president.
	She knows of what she speaks.
	Kind of sanity check here for a second.
	When you have the Secretary of Energy say that we look forward to a day when every street in America is just full of electric vehicles, yet California, which is the wokest anti-fossil fuel state in America, despite being the richest,
	Tells its citizens, please, please don't charge your Teslas at nighttime because we're having brownouts and we don't have electricity.
	Then all of this, Kathleen, it's suicide.
	There is no logical way to even get to this putative nirvana.
	Because the system's broken.
	We can't run America on electric vehicles.
	So it looks to me as if they're utterly, completely devoid of a connection with reality.
	Is that just me?
	No, it's not just you.
	And it would be funny, except if these policies are taken to their ultimate conclusion, it does result in scarcity of electricity and scarcity of energy and higher prices for energy consumers, which is all of us.
	So When we look at what the electrical grid can handle, we can't simply transfer all of our transportation over to the electrical grid in any kind of time frame of 10 years or whatever California comes up with.
	Because about 97% of transportation comes from oil.
	So I want all our three million listeners just to be sure that they have this data point so they can use it in their discussions.
	Kathleen, how much of our transportation energy comes from fossil fuels?
	Could you just say that again?
	Well, 97% of it comes from oil.
	There's a little bit from natural gas as well.
	Um, but pretty much almost all of our transportation comes from petroleum products, natural gas, and they think they're going to replace that 97% with, you know, a Hogwarts magic wand in the next nine years.
	Exactly.
	And if you think about it, the only way they could even possibly think to do that is to increase electric generation from nuclear, natural gas, and coal.
	And of course, they want to do that.
	I mean, they can't just keep increasing wind and solar because they're intermittent.
	You need reliable baseline energy from nuclear, coal, and natural gas.
	All right.
	You represent those that are in the industry.
	We've only got a minute left.
	Kathleen Eskama from the Western Energy Alliance.
	Is there anything that our listeners can do?
	How are they part of the effort to bring rationality back to energy policy in America?
	Do they have a role to play if they're not in the industry, but they're just a consumer?
	I do think it's important for people to be educated about where their energy comes from.
	I mean, there are people that will sell you an agenda that we can just replace everything with wind and solar.
	And the reality is our grid becomes more unstable, the more intermittent energy we apply to it.
	So we have to look at realistic solutions and we have to get your listeners to vote.
	Yes, that's how we make a difference.
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	Is it Robert next?
	Yes.
	Alright.
	For B and C. He's gonna be on his own, right?
	Jeff?
	That people's pundit guy?
	Yes, he'll be fine.
	He's good.
	Rich Barrett.
	With the Poland.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Title for Skama?
	97% of Americans, of American transport is fossil fuel based.
	Did you know?
	Did you know?
	97%.
	Based?
	Question mark.
	Okay.
	All right.
	You want the mics off for Robert?
	He's gonna be phoned now.
	He's phoned.
	Alright, what should I talk to him about?
	I'm going to talk to him about Georgia, because that's where I was yesterday.
	Arizona, the new polls.
	Oh yeah, Arizona.
	Georgia.
	And New York, yeah, they were the first to have New York.
	Oh yeah, I need to hear some cuts.
	Alright, so... Cut ten?
	Cut ten.
	Give it.
	We're dealing with actual crimes, those eight homicides, and we're dealing with the perception of fear that people are feeling.
	That's the combination.
	And I must deal with that perception and the actual crime.
	We can't get away from the fact that we have 3.5 million people using our subway system.
	14.
	But I took my antidepressant medication that I take every day.
	Okay, thank you.
	Thank you.
	15. 15.
	And what I see in the Republican Party and the conservative movement is a refocus on ideas, a refocus on post-Trump Republican Party.
	He is the governor, the retiring governor of Arkansas.
	The guy who's about to be replaced by Sarah Sanders.
	Okay, good.
	Alright, I'm gonna use that.
	Play me 16.
	I watched those events on the television where they took over the Capitol.
	How much time have I got?
	A minute forty.
	Despite all the legislative accomplishments, and I want to cite them, I want to say it's been an extraordinary session.
	You and the President have done so much in terms of domestic concerns, the economy.
	So, why is this message... Why do you think the president has gotten this message through the voters?
	Good.
	Well, first of all... I'm going to play that.
	Actually, I'm going to play that, and I'm going to play Acer in the C block.
	And you'll tee them up?
	Yep.
	And I'm going to come in to talk about PhD.
	Yep.
	Do you want the mics off for Robert, or on?
	No, mic's on.
	Mic's on.
	Alright, is he on the line, Jeff?
	Uh, yeah.
	Let him know real quick the mics are on.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Connect him, Alex.
	He's connected.
	Robert!
	One minute.
	How you doing?
	You're a bloody hard man to book on my TV show.
	Do you know that?
	Well, we're trying.
	It's just they got me on the road so much.
	Is this like a special season for you?
	Like midterms?
	Does that mean you're busy, Robert?
	You know, it does a little bit.
	But I want to do the TV show a lot, because first of all, I like your show, and I think that you... That show has a kind of a specific little clientele audience that I definitely would like to be on for.
	Good.
	Yes.
	We'll make it happen.
	A chief pollster, right?
	Yes.
	OK, standby.
	Yes.
	Good.
	We'll be right back.
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	Our next guest is a man who is bloody hard to book.
	I guess it has something to do with, what's happening in 20 days?
	Oh yeah, midterm election.
	He is the chief pollster for the most reliable company out there.
	It is the Trafalgar Group, and he is Robert Kahaley.
	Robert, welcome back to America First.
	Hey, it is great to be on your show.
	Did I get your name right?
	You did.
	Hey, finally!
	Finally, I got it right.
	OK, a little bit of a self-congratulation there.
	I need you to react first.
	Latest findings.
	We were in Georgia.
	Amazing news out of Arizona.
	We've got to discuss all of those.
	But here's somebody who, for the next 20 days, will be Speaker of the House.
	And she has a strange attitude to polls.
	Play cut.
	Despite all the legislative accomplishments, and I want to cite them, I want to say it's been an extraordinary session.
	You and the President have done so much in terms of domestic concerns, the economy.
	So why is this message, why do you think the President has gotten this message through the voters?
	Well, first of all, let me say that I think that much of what you've said I don't agree with.
	That is to say, the New York Times poll, I think, is an outlier poll.
	You decided one poll, but all the other polls are different.
	It's also the RealClearPolitics average is showing similar issues.
	No, but that was one that brought down the average, and it was an outlier.
	It wasn't even that big a sample.
	So I dismiss that.
	I dismiss even the left-wing polls.
	Robert, what is happening?
	Is the establishment melting down?
	And should they not be paying more attention to a Trafalgar polling?
	You know, I mean, at this point, if Nancy Pelosi is against the New York Times Siena polls, I mean, that's crazy.
	She might as well just start being for us.
	I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
	She should be packing her office up.
	That's what she should be doing, Robert.
	Absolutely.
	Maybe she feels like that.
	I mean, the one thing is, I will take a positive attitude denying you're losing over a minority leader who acts like we're not winning.
	Yeah.
	Alright, so we just got to Philly from Georgia.
	We had an amazing, amazing event in Georgia.
	We had like 700 Patriots at one event.
	1,200 tonight in Philly.
	It's mind-blowing.
	Everyone we spoke to, and I need a sanity check from you, Robert.
	said he's got a shot.
	There is great loyalty to Herschel Walker in Georgia.
	The recent attacks didn't work.
	What are you seeing?
	What are the recent trend lines in the last 10 days?
	Is Georgia staying with Herschel?
	Well, I can tell you this.
	After the worst two weeks of assault, and remember, when Walker is assaulted, it's on the local news.
	It's in the Atlanta Journal.
	unlike when Warnock was assaulted.
	But after going through that, that the most he fell and again, this was Matt Towers pulled whole 3% inside our advantage.
	Emerson at 2% mine was a 2% so to only fall that much.
	And then to have what was probably the best debate performance differential from what the expectation was that I've seen the cycle.
	Yeah, I mean, I think, first of all, he plateaued just about two points behind Warnock before the debate, and I expect the next time we look at it, I just saw Landmark at him even, that would not shock me to have him even, or even Walker back up.
	I think this will be going to a run-off, because I don't see anybody getting a majority.
	Oh really?
	You think it's going to require a run-off?
	But that runoff is probably very good news for Herschel because the GOP will probably be feeling a lot of momentum at that point.
	And the runoff is different than they were last time.
	Last time they were all the way in January, the new law moved the runoff up, so I think it's the first week in December.
	So it'll be a much quicker turn.
	And basically, when you take a runoff, a majority of people aren't voting against that incumbent.
	Very, very unusual for the incumbent to come back and win if he had to get a runoff.
	So I definitely think Walker's on the way to shaking this thing without a runoff, or at least getting into a runoff.
	Amazing.
	All right, Arizona, Carrie Lake has been just smoking hot in her performance.
	What does Arizona look like to Trafalgar Rube and to you, the Chief Polster?
	Well, we just released one today in conjunction with Daily Wire, and we saw we've got Kerry Lake up by just a hair over three, and the first one we've had with Masters is just one point behind.
	And again, like I've said before, I think there is a segment of Republican voters that cannot be measured this time.
	Not by me, not by anybody.
	This is the term you used the last time you were on the show.
	These are the submerged voters, correct, Robert?
	Right.
	They're not reluctant, they're not hidden, they're submerged.
	They're not talking to anybody.
	And so what I would tell you is most of these races, if it's one point, then the Republicans are probably going to win.
	I don't have big, dispersed voters.
	I wish I could tell you if it's X.
	But I would tell you it's anywhere from 1.5 to 5 percent in this Republican wave.
	And if you get up to 3 or 4 percent, you start seeing winds across the board.
	You start seeing winds everywhere.
	All right.
	We need to talk about New York in the next segment.
	In the meantime, Robert Cahaley, you've got to follow him.
	What is your website for Trafalgar?
	It is TheTrafalgarGroup.org or TrafalgarGroup.com.
	Rasmussen sadly sold his company.
	We had him on the show a few times after he did so.
	That is a sad, sad day.
	That's why right now we trust this man and his organization, the Trafalgar Group dot com.
	We're going to discuss what New York is up to and whether Lee Zeldin can save it.
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	All right, is there any cut that I haven't... Oh, what is the one you said there's something really good, Jeff?
	Oh, cut one.
	That's a long cut.
	That's Andy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Can you just play that for me?
	Go ahead, guy.
	ESG investing is a total rejection of our founding principles.
	It's a threat to our democracy, It's a threat to our economic freedom and it's a threat to our individual liberty.
	It's a threat to our democracy because these financial firms use it as a shortcut around the ballot box to enact these radical liberal policies.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	And then I'm going to use cut 15 with Robert and then just play cut 13 for me quickly.
	Cut 13.
	Here it is.
	Oh boy.
	Here's what I do know, Sean.
	I've got to get through this.
	And I'm thrilled to have the endorsement of all 48 of my other Republican colleagues in the Senate.
	I'd always welcome Mitt to the party if he would like to join.
	He and I have a good working relationship, and that'll continue even after this race is over.
	Jeff!
	Jeff?
	Yeah, he's here.
	Was that from the original show or did he do it again?
	No, he did it again.
	He did it first with Tucker, that was with Hannity.
	That's incredible.
	Alright.
	Is there no methodology, Robert, to even estimate the size of the submerged voters?
	I wish I could.
	I mean, I really, I don't have anything to give you.
	I mean, that's the problem.
	They're just not... Yeah, they're not measurable.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I hate to say that, but what I do think that it is effective, what RCP is doing, is they're kind of, if you've seen their little math where they kind of take what the poles are and then what the differential has been between the poles and the reality, and they put the calculation in, I think that's a really good thing, and I've seen them doing that, and so, yeah, I think that's very effective.
	I have a question.
	Would Mitt Romney's endorsement make any difference?
	with mike lee no it really wouldn't rub it i actually think it's benefit i mean here's the thing these people i think that romney's romney had a little more of a primary fight than he expected to have in utah last time with that kennedy fella i think people they don't love trump in utah but they don't like when republicans don't stand up on stuff that they and There's a few places Romney's been soft.
	What, like trying to impeach his own president?
	How about that one?
	Because even in Utah, it doesn't matter whether you liked him, you're right.
	That was just, it was like, that's across the line.
	You can not like Trump, but not refer him to each month.
	Right, that's stupid.
	Alright, what have I got here?
	What reads?
	This is C. Oh, I'm going to do a MyPatriotSupply here.
	Did I miss anything, Alex?
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	We did JCN.
	I had written down here that you were going to do a MyPillow.
	Oh yeah, I forgot to do that.
	I'll do MyPillow next.
	I'll do MyPatriotSupply now.
	Is he still doing his podcast?
	That's incredible.
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	All right, thank you, Alex.
	Dennis Prager just got up after 90 minutes.
	He did his three-hour show here, warmed up the chair for me, and he went straight to doing 90 minutes on his new podcast with his guest host, Julie, who is incredible.
	She's the young lady from Harvard who did that mind-blowingly good six-minute speech.
	On the woke left, and they have a new podcast.
	He just did 90 minutes, four and a half hours straight.
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	I need to hear from you, though, because we had an idea.
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	Here's the bad news.
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	It's going to get worse economically.
	You know it.
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	We are back with Robert Kahaley, chief pollster for the amazing Trafalgar Group.
	TheTrafalgarGroup.com.
	Asa Hutchinson, the outgoing rhino in Arkansas, the governor, had this to say about the conservative movement, and I think the polls don't substantiate what Asa is saying.
	Play cut!
	And what I see in the Republican Party and the conservative movement is a refocus on ideas, a refocus on a post-Trump Republican Party that does move beyond that.
	And so you're not going to hear that former President Trump's name mentioned in this conference, hardly any I would suspect, because we're talking about ideas and we're not talking about personalities.
	A fake Republican, of course, that was on MSNBC on Morning Joe, a post-Trump Republican Party.
	Robert, when you've got a man who has, what is it, a 220 for 11 record of endorsements, what is he talking about?
	I think he's... I hadn't realized that ISIS moved into the Beltway.
	But it sounds like he's just in that D.C. echo chamber.
	It sounds like he's talking for the Lincoln Project.
	Right.
	And that's what I'm saying.
	It sounds like he's literally moved in up there because, and maybe that's where he's going to end up, because the ideas they're talking about are the ideas that are elevating these candidates, that they are the direction that was set forth as a result of the Trump presidency.
	Well, let me be specific.
	Let's take politics out of it for a second and tell me if I'm wrong.
	If you voted to impeach President Trump as a Republican, if you went against America First policies, you either lost primaries, like Cheney, or you decided to retire.
	If you endorsed America First, like J.D.
	Vance, like Carrie Lake, if you had an endorsement from the President, your star is rising.
	Am I misinterpreting something?
	No, there's no question.
	Trump has put forth a set of ideas, a concept, the America First movement, that has given birth to all of these candidates.
	And opposing, working against your own party, voting against your own president has had dire ramifications.
	Yes!
	You know, I guess when I – he's literally about to be replaced as governor by Trump's press secretary.
	Yes!
	He's like Nancy looking at the New York Times polls and didn't disagree with that.
	I mean, Nancy's arguing with a mirror at this point.
	That's beautiful.
	He's saying a post-Trump party as he is about to be replaced by President Trump's former press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
	You're a genius, Robert.
	Okay, 30 seconds left.
	Has my buddy, that great American, that combat veteran from the U.S.
	Army, has Lee Zeldin got a shot?
	It looks like he's got a shot for the governorship of New York.
	Am I crazy, Robert?
	No, you're not.
	When we first said that we thought that race was close, As I said, we were crazy.
	Main Street polls have moved from double digits to eight to six, and now Quinnipiac at four.
	We're at two.
	We're seeing a tremendous amount.
	And one of the things that people are underestimating is that there's still a Cuomo machine out there, and that Cuomo machine is not about re-electing Hochul.
	And so people are underestimating the effect that machine can have.
	Interesting.
	If you're having a cigar podcast, I won't in.
	All right.
	Did you hear that?
	We've already got one vote.
	We've got a positive supporting vote for our cigar podcast.
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	We've got to get you to the swamp and we'll have a cigar together.
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	Hey, that was great.
	Are you a cigar smoker?
	I am, man.
	Liga Provada No.
	9 is my favorite.
	Which one?
	Liga Provada No.
	9.
	Ooh, I don't know that.
	Well, it's a good one.
	It's strong, but I also like a drone box cut.
	Oh, that's nice.
	When are you next in D.C.?
	Any idea?
	I've got to speak at something at Heritage on Tuesday.
	Oh, wow.
	If you have time, will you come in studio?
	Yeah, what time are y'all doing the studio?
	Hang on, Tuesday I'm taking off, right Jeff?
	Yeah, you're gone Tuesday.
	Yeah, I'll be out Tuesday so it'll have to be next time unless you're here on Wednesday.
	Okay, well I'm not sure yet.
	Okay, well keep us posted and just tell Jeff.
	I may be coming in Monday night.
	It just depends on what time I finish Daily Wire in Nashville because I'm flying straight from Nashville there.
	Just keep me posted.
	We'll do it, sir.
	Alright, thanks buddy.
	Hey, man, this is a great show.
	You've got to kind of get to it.
	I like it.
	Lots of fun.
	Yes, sir.
	All right.
	Take care, guys.
	Bye-bye.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Awesome.
	Title for that one?
	Title.
	You talked Arizona, you talked Georgia, and you talked New York.
	Why we can win New York, Georgia, and Arizona.
	All right.
	Want the mics off for Brat?
	No.
	All right.
	So what are the things we've got here?
	There are a couple of cuts that are relevant.
	Well, there is that big Andy Puzder cut, but that's a minute, that's a minute and a half long.
	Yeah, I'm going to use that with him, but we'll, we'll, we'll cut it short.
	I'll just indicate where you cut it short.
	Fading down.
	Yep.
	And then what was the other thing we had?
	We've played the Biden gas ones already.
	On economics, I think that was the big one.
	The Andy cut.
	Where is the... There's nothing else on economics?
	No.
	No, Jeff says.
	Okay, alright.
	40 seconds, by the way.
	Okay, is he up?
	Yes, he is.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	Great to be on, Seb.
	Thanks.
	So we've got an amazing cut.
	If we have time, I'll play it to you from Andy Puzder.
	But there's some fascinating news out there.
	BlackRock losing money.
	Vanguard might be in trouble.
	Is there something in the air that the ESG wokification of corporate America investment funds may have run its course?
	Or am I being overly optimistic?
	Probably a hair optimistic, but they miscalculated.
	So, I mean, who would have foresaw the decline of globalism and China cracking up?
	They got ghost cities, their debt's 300% of GDP.
	Ours is 150.
	I thought that was bad.
	They're 300.
	They got lockdowns of 10 major cities at 30 million persons a pop.
	They've got bubbles all over their economy.
	It's interesting, right?
	BlackRock, Larry Fink, etc.
	ESG goes over there because they've got a good, clean environment.
	That's a joke.
	And they have good corporate governance and all that.
	So, you know, they use that as the ploy and to guilt folks in and to shame people in and to force, coerce the woke Fortune 500 to join in.
	But now they miscalculated on the business.
	So perhaps they should have listened to their arch nemesis, Milton Friedman, many years ago, who said the business of business is the maximization of profits.
	And the profits have the greatest social welfare effects Positive for humanity that you can imagine and he was correct Back in his day.
	We lived out that dream and now these folks are giving us a nightmare Yeah, let's have a listen.
	Let's have a little abbreviated listen to this is a man who knows of what he speaks Very very successful as CEO Andy Puzder.
	Let's listen to what he's saying.
	He's telling the truth about ESG's this equity What is it?
	It's governance equity and sustainability play cold ESG investing is a total rejection of our founding principles.
	It's a threat to our democracy, it's a threat to our economic freedom, and it's a threat to our individual liberty.
	It's a threat to our democracy because these financial firms use it as a shortcut around the ballot box to enact these radical liberal policies that just aren't very popular.
	It's a threat to our economic freedom because they use their massive voting power To compel management of the companies in which they invest.
	And by the way, BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, the three largest, if you combine their holdings, they're the largest shareholder in 80% of the companies in the S&P 500.
	So is that hyperbole when he says they're standing at a podium with a big audience that ESG, the equity, social justice, governance moniker that is used as a metric inside these massive investing funds.
	It's a threat to the principles of our nation.
	Is he exaggerating?
	No, no, no hyperbole at all.
	And it is stunning, right?
	Most of the CEOs are not on board ideologically with this, but they're not courageous.
	They're lacking a spine.
	And it's shocking that the most privileged people who have been given every materialist blessing possible, can turn their back on this country, which gave them such opportunity.
	And so it is just stunning.
	And there's a few people like Puzder, he is just heroic.
	And that's what it's gonna take, is heroes like him, you, there's other leaders who are pointing this out, Folks who have gone and bought shares of BlackRock and went head-to-head with Fink and Public and asked them, how do you square putting half your portfolio in China, a totalitarian surveillance state?
	And of course, they have nothing to say.
	But the American people are waking up finally.
	They're slow to wrath.
	Because they're Christian and they're kind and generous people, but once you awaken God and once you awaken the American people, sorry, it's not going to go your way.
	But here's my concern, and I loved that clip.
	That was forceful.
	It was truth-telling.
	But these are behemoths.
	These are utter, complete giants.
	Can we influence them?
	I mean, is a shareholder meeting enough?
	Or somebody saying, I'm not going to use Vanguard?
	Well, who cares?
	We've got billions of dollars.
	Can we actually stop the juggernaut?
	Yeah, there's a few ways.
	Number one, they're starting to fall apart on their own weight right now, right?
	So they made the miscalculation on globalization.
	They're going to pay a huge price for that.
	Right.
	I think I saw MEDA today.
	Some of the big tech stocks.
	MEDA is down 60 percent, I think I saw today.
	So some of it, the market's going to take care of for errors in thought.
	And then there's a lot of Christian funds out there.
	Ron Blue Trust, Kingdom Advisors, Eventide.
	And then there's, you know, your American Virtue folks, the Economic War Room with Kevin Freeman.
	There's a lot of financial advisors out there who believe in the United States of America, who believe in the kingdom of God.
	Search them out and start shifting your pensions, your retirement accounts.
	Which are worth millions and millions and millions into those funds, right?
	That would share your values.
	And the American people are catching on to this thing and it's coming.
	It's coming.
	All right, that is massively important.
	We've only got 10 seconds left.
	More information, brateconomics.com.
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	Come visit me anytime.
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	Liberty.edu.
	But quickly, those names again of those investment vehicles that aren't woke?
	Yeah, Eventide, Ron Blue Advisors, Kingdom Advisors is the broad umbrella sovereign capital.
	A bunch of good ones.
	They were at our CEO Summit.
	All good people.
	Trustworthy.
	Go check them out.
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	That's fascinating, those investment vehicles.
	The whole speech really was good, yeah.
	Sorry, Puzder.
	What was the venue?
	That was the... Oh, that's the National Conservatism Conference by the Edmund Burke Foundation.
	I've heard of that thing before.
	Any calls or are we locked?
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	He's in Phoenix.
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	Title for Brat?
	How to get out of Vanguard and Blackrock.
	Now what am I doing here?
	Merch, okay.
	This is E, yes.
	Vanguard, Blackrock.
	One minute.
	Alright, what cuts do we need to look at?
	Well, short and sweet, there's that Federman cut, 9-11.
	Oh yeah, come in with that.
	Alright, that is cut... 16.
	So we'll come in with that, no liner, Alex?
	No.
	Alrighty.
	30 seconds.
	Oh, what's, oh, okay.
	20. 20.
	20. 20. 20. 20. 20. 20. 20. 21.
	It felt very 9-11.
	It felt very surreal.
	Yeah, the only thing surreal, Federman, is that you are the Democrat candidate in Pennsylvania.
	He didn't even say... Eric, did he do a sentence there in one go?
	I'm surprised, yeah.
	For nine seconds, he was able to get one coherent sentence out.
	Wow.
	That's almost as good as Biden.
	We're going to go to your calls momentarily, but...
	Gotta share this.
	After Asa Hutchinson, this is another Rhino embarrassing himself on Fox.
	Mike Lee groveling, kneeling in front of Mittens Mitt Romney.
	Play cut.
	That's cut 13.
	Here's what I do know, Sean.
	I've got to get through this.
	And I'm thrilled to have the endorsement of all 48 of my other Republican colleagues in the Senate.
	I'd always welcome Mitt to the party if he would like to join.
	He and I have a good working relationship, and that'll continue even after this race is over.
	Begging.
	Begging.
	I know he's a Mormon, but you're begging for the endorsement of the man who voted to impeach his own president?
	You're a pathetic cuckold of a man, Mike Lee.
	Let's go to Arizona Dennis!
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	What is the actual genesis of fascism?
	Is it truly different from communism?
	And how did the Democrat Party become an extremist radical party that has normalized violence in America?
	We're going to talk to the preeminent scholar of all things communist in America.
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	He's the author of superb books like Dupes.
	He's Paul Kenger of Grove City College.
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	You know, someone very profoundly once said, many years ago, that if fascism ever comes to America, it'll come in the name of liberalism.
	And what is fascism?
	Fascism is private ownership, private enterprise, but total government control and regulation.
	Well, isn't this the liberal philosophy?
	The conservative, so-called, is the one that says, less government, get off my back, get out of my pocket, and let me have more control of my own destiny.
	The great Ronald Reagan predicting decades ago how fascism will come to America.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First, coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios just outside the insalubrious fetid swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	When is fascism going to arrive?
	The great Victor Davis Hanson, one of the greatest minds alive in America today, has just written the following.
	The law is no longer blind and disinterested, but adjudicates indictment, prosecution, verdict, and punishment on the ideology of the accused.
	Eric Holder is held in contempt of Congress and smiles.
	Peter Navarro is held in contempt of Congress and is hauled off in cuffs and leg irons.
	James Clapper and John Brennan lied under oath to Congress and were rewarded with television contracts.
	Roger Stone did the same and a SWAT team showed up at his house.
	How bad is it?
	What can be done about it?
	Let's speak to somebody who is perhaps our best expert on the evolution of communism today and its relevance to the body politic.
	He is a good friend of America First, Professor Paul Kengel.
	Welcome back to One on One.
	Yeah, thanks, Seb.
	You are in, how did you put it, the insalubrious fetid swamp of DC?
	I love that.
	I got to write that down.
	That is one of my liners, the insalubrious fetid swamp.
	Yes, indeed.
	So we've got to have a sense of humor.
	We've got to be happy warriors, as Reagan taught us.
	But that prediction that I played, even to somebody who's not a talk radio host, somebody who looks at history dispassionately, it seems like we may have arrived at his prediction, no?
	Well, it's interesting that Serrano Reagan, who had been a liberal, right?
	In fact, he described himself as a hemophiliac liberal, a bleeding heart liberal.
	And we're here talking, this would be, see, Reagan died June 5th, 2004.
	So this is going on 20 years, almost a 20-year anniversary, I guess, of his death, 18 years ago this past June.
	But his life, you know, he saw all of these ideologies, Seb.
	He had been an FDR Democrat.
	He had voted for Harry Truman.
	His father loved FDR.
	He admired FDR.
	And then he slowly, you know, through an evolution, because of a number of different reasons, among other things, Working for General Electric, GE Theater, and seeing how private enterprise really worked.
	And also seeing in Hollywood dealing with communists, dealing with Marxists, who called themselves progressives.
	But as he soon found out, they were anything but progressives or liberals.
	These were Marxists.
	And then as Reagan continued this evolution to the right, he saw his fellow liberals, his erstwhile liberal colleagues, refer to conservatives as fascists.
	And Reagan knew better, because Reagan at one point after World War II, over 1945, 1946, 1947, was fighting both communism and fascism.
	And Reagan said, Seb, he said, you know, when it comes to the difference between a communist and a fascist, there's really not a dime's worth of difference between them.
	Because in the end, both of them support very big, excessive, obtrusive, intrusive government.
	And for people to try to put conservatives on the fascist side, Reagan said, you can't do that.
	I mean, the Nazis, right?
	What did Nazis stand for, right?
	Nationalist, socialist, German workers party.
	Hitler was a socialist.
	Mussolini was a socialist.
	Mussolini, a fascist.
	Hitler, a fascist.
	Mussolini was a Marxist.
	So, Reagan knew that conservatives, they were the side of free markets, freedom, right?
	A different understanding of kind of radical libertarian freedom that a lot of people understand today.
	But above all, like Reagan said, they supported limited government.
	They were not for the state.
	That's what the left has always been for.
	So, let's stop here for a second, because this is such a crucial point.
	And even I myself, when I was younger, fell into this conventional wisdom, Professor, that politics is on a linear scale.
	It's the x-axis.
	And on the left, on the extreme left, you have the communists.
	On the extreme right, you have the fascists.
	Then, you know, going in towards the center, you have the more normal, less extreme parties.
	Have conservatives failed?
	Since the writing of Mein Kampf, since Mussolini established the fascist party with the symbol of the fasces from Rome, the bundle of sticks tied together that are stronger together than individually, Have we failed to counter this conventional wisdom that fascism is of the right?
	Because if you look at the name of the Nazi party, these are kissing cousins.
	These are two parties that are on the same, if there is a linear scale, they're both on the same end of the scale, are they not?
	Yes, exactly right.
	In fact, when Hitler, it was Ribbentrop and Molotov and Stalin when they met after signing the Hitler-Stalin pact, and Molotov, Ribbentrop, who had been the foreign minister to Hitler, Well, actually, Stalin said this about Beria, his KGB head.
	He said, this is our Himmler, right?
	Beria is our Himmler.
	People listening that know this history well enough, especially people on the left, might be yelling at their screen right now, yelling at their radio.
	Saying, come on, the Nazis took on the communists.
	The Nazis hated the communists.
	Well, they did in Germany.
	They were rivals, but they were both on that big government, big control, socialist side.
	And in the end, they found a way to come together.
	Yes, a lot of people in the United States thought that they would.
	Bishop Fulton Sheen predicted that these two would eventually come together.
	He said, there's not much difference between the mustache fascist, meaning Hitler, with a little mustache, and the mustache communist, meaning Stalin.
	They found a way to come together and eventually launch World War II.
	But yeah, I think conservatives had failed to teach this.
	And a lot of it, Seb, I don't think it's so much conservatives' fault, but what we're up against with academia, with what's being taught to people.
	Every semester in my comparative politics course, every fall semester at Grove City College, I take up the whole chalkboard and I write a linear line, right, where I go far left all the way to the far right.
	And I draw an arrow.
	I said, okay, as you go in the direction of left, and according to this, you have more government control.
	And that takes you all the way from libertarian on one end, which would be the far right end, although you'd never call a libertarian far right, right?
	And then you eventually go down toward the moderates, and then toward the liberals, and then toward the socialists, and then toward the communists and Marxists with complete control.
	But the national socialists are right there next to the Marxists and communists.
	They're not libertarians.
	Right?
	They're not laissez-faire free marketers, which is why some people have said, forget about using that line, right?
	Take that line instead and turn it into a horseshoe.
	Yes.
	And this is what Reagan said.
	It's a circle with a missing bottom.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	With fascism and communism almost touching at the bottom.
	And for me, the biggest difference, but correct me if I'm wrong, Professor, the biggest difference is, well, they both worship the state, but in the early stages of fascism, The fascist state co-opts the corporations.
	It doesn't necessarily take them over.
	It just says, Krupp, if you want to be a successful company, you better do my bidding.
	So it's a very nuanced difference.
	Yeah, it is.
	It's exactly right.
	And with the fascists, with the socialist fascists, Hitler, Mussolini, yeah, you would have this kind of The state would take over corporations, the state would run corporations, so they wouldn't go as far to the left as the far left with the Marxists and the Communists.
	Ronald Reagan would say there's really not a dime's worth of difference between them.
	Well, I'll correct Reagan here.
	There is more than a dime's worth of difference between them.
	However, they are very similar, and that's the key point.
	And so some have also said, beyond the horseshoe analogy, that it's really a closed circle where the communists and the far right, if the far right in this case would be the Nazis, would be the fascists, come together and meet.
	And in a way, they did come together and meet in World War II, right?
	They collaborated.
	Yes.
	But it's more like a horseshoe.
	And people like to very easily forget that, that there was actually a secret pact between Stalin and Hitler to divide up Europe.
	Because if you're a nimical, it's hard to do that kind of thing, isn't it?
	We're talking to Professor Paul Kengor.
	He is the Executive Director of the Institute for Faith and Freedom at Grove City College.
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	Paul, we had Peter Navarro, my former White House colleague, on the show yesterday.
	I want to ask you, and this may be a weird angle, but I'm an immigrant, so I chose this country.
	I wasn't blessed to be born in the greatest nation on God's earth.
	You were born here.
	As somebody who grew up in America, who's written seminal works, let's just put a couple up there.
	The most recent one, everybody needs to read it, a disturbing uncovering of the demonic, the diabolical nexus of communism is the devil and Karl Marx.
	And then one of my prior favorites, is the one about the key individuals that won the Cold War such as the Gipper and of course Blessed Saint John Paul II, a Pope and a President.
	Paul, as somebody born here did you ever expect to see A political adversary of an administration who hasn't killed anybody, is not a drug lord, be handcuffed at Reagan Airport and put in leg irons to be physically transported by the federal agents to Hinkley's cell in the bowels of the FBI.
	Did you think that was ever possible?
	Yeah, it's really shocking, isn't it?
	And Hinckley's cell, right about the time that Hinckley has been released, recently released, you know, his unconditional release.
	Here we are 41 years after he shot Ronald Reagan.
	And what bothers me too is, in fact, taking this back to, well, again, the Reagan years.
	It was with the Iran-Contra hearings, trying to think who used this term at the time.
	It might have been Ed Meese, who talked about the criminalization of policy differences.
	Yes.
	This is something that the liberals have been doing.
	In fact, here at Grove City College, just this past week, we had one of our fellows in the Institute for Faith and Freedom, Jay Cost.
	I know you've read Jay Cost.
	He writes for Real Clear Politics, Washington Examiner, National Review.
	He's an expert on James Madison, and he was talking about Madison and the art of compromise, and how politics, people make fun of politics being all about compromise, but really, that's kind of the virtue of politics in a democracy, is that you do have compromise.
	So parties learn how to compromise on their differences.
	In fact, Ronald Reagan in 1981, August 13, 1981, got his enormous federal income tax passed with Tip O'Neill and the Democrats overwhelmingly controlling the House of Representatives.
	The Washington Post called it the most remarkable example of bipartisan cooperation in politics in generations.
	So you learn how to get along with people across the aisle.
	But what's gone on with Democrats increasingly recently, recent years, recent decades, is they don't want to compromise with you.
	They want to crush you.
	They want to beat you.
	They want to destroy you.
	And with liberals and social media, they want to cancel you.
	It's not enough to disagree.
	They can't stand disagreement.
	They can't stand dissent.
	I learned a long time ago that you're never going to find anybody who agrees with you on everything.
	Even among fellow conservatives, the American Conservative Union puts out these These rankings, how conservative is this or that legislator?
	It's very rare to find somebody who scores 100 on that, right?
	Right.
	Ronald Reagan might have only scored in the lower 90s.
	So you learn how to disagree and get along.
	But with the Democrats and the liberals, they're punishing people and they're using everything that happened with Trump in January 6th.
	They're going to turn this into a show trial if they can.
	I wonder if Donald Trump came out tomorrow, Seb, and said, OK, you know what?
	I really do feel like I'm going to be older in 2024.
	I'm just not going to run.
	I'm not going to run again.
	It's a promise.
	I'm not going to run again.
	You wonder if they would call off the whole January 6 thing on the spot?
	No.
	If that happened?
	No.
	Yeah, but it's you.
	They use these things in order to go after their enemies, politicize things, and at the very least, forget about 2024, right?
	This is probably what your reaction suggests.
	They're looking right now to November 2022.
	Well, the issue for me is, I mean, when you ask that question, rhetorically or otherwise, the fact is, no, they won't.
	Because tell me if you think I'm wrong, Paul, but I see no moderating influence on the left.
	I mean, you know, Biden, who was an old school Democrat who talked about, you know, the fellow segregationist Democrats as gentlemen he worked with, who was, you know, who spoke about Um, the racial jungle he didn't want his children to grow up in.
	This person is, if the squad burps, he will echo the burp.
	You don't have to like Bill Clinton, Paul, but Clinton would reign in the crazies.
	If you look at all the extreme things that have happened, from Russian collusion, to the Navarro arrests, to the open borders, to Afghanistan and everything else, I don't see one influential Democrat voice who says, hang on guys, this is a little nuts.
	Yeah, and it's really sad about Biden because, in fact, Biden voted for both of the Reagan tax cuts in 1981 and 1986.
	And you look at an issue like abortion, which the feminists are probably going to be losing their minds in the next few weeks.
	If Roe v. Wade and KCV Planned Parenthood are eventually overturned here.
	But Joe Biden used to be fairly moderate on the abortion issue.
	He was definitely pro-choice and not somebody we would have considered pro-life.
	But as recently as, I think it was summer of 2019, he still supported the Hyde Amendment.
	He supported the Hyde Amendment for 42 years.
	Right.
	And he reversed on that under the badgering And hounding and crying and weeping, literally, of Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris.
	In fact, it was in Atlanta, I think, in the summer of 2019, where just all of a sudden, after supporting Hyde for over 40 years, he just threw that to the wind.
	And so this man who right now could really be gaining political points if he really showed some true statesmanship and reached across the aisle and took some more moderate positions and tried to really be a healer, he's doing just the opposite thing.
	He's going lockstep with the left on everything.
	Did you notice the other day, Seb, it would have been January 6th, the anniversary of D-Day, And it wasn't until, I think, 8 or 8.30 p.m.
	8.45 in the evening, already almost 3 a.m.
	in Paris, when the President and the White House remembered that there was an anniversary to celebrate.
	And that's the second time, guys, the second time, two years in a row, that this administration forgets a moment when we came to stop a real fascist.
	But they didn't forget to fly the flag for Pride Month.
	Of course, of course.
	Which is probably outside the U.S.
	Embassy in Paris.
	It's outside the U.S.
	Embassy in the Vatican.
	I'm sure it was.
	We talked to Professor Paul Kengor.
	This is America First one-on-one.
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	I have to ask you, Paul.
	Higher education.
	You're a professor.
	You run a center.
	My son is about to graduate from a rather, you know, well-known university, and his major is... He loves the classics.
	He loves ancient Greece, Rome, and his major is classics.
	You know, Western Civilization.
	And it's a big bloody university.
	And we're going to the graduation, and we're going to be in the football stadium for all those graduating together.
	And then we go off for the faculty graduations to celebrate his major.
	He is one of seven, seven kids graduating in Classics from this university.
	Is it a growth city we love?
	You know, we'd love Hillsdale.
	Is the educational environment salvageable after decades of the critical thinkers, the critical theorists that are really the spawn of Neo-Marxism after they've wrought what they've wrought in our colleges, Paul?
	The answer is no.
	They're not salvageable.
	They're toast.
	They're completely gone.
	And if you're talking about the university in general, academia in general, it's completely gone, which is why you need to pick one of maybe about 20 to 30 Genuine safe spaces out there to send your kids to.
	You know, Grove City College is one of them.
	Hillsdale is one of them.
	You know, I could think of a few others.
	Probably Liberty University, Franciscan University.
	ISI has an annual guidebook, so the Intercollegiate Studies Institute has their annual, you know, list of decent colleges, but it's a small number, isn't it?
	It's a small number, and Young America's foundation usually has some recommended ones also.
	From a faith perspective, if you're Catholic, consult the National Catholic Register Cardinal Newman Society list.
	Of recommended colleges, there's about 20 to 30.
	So, out of the thousands that are out there, there's no more than a couple dozen, maybe three dozen at the most that are safe.
	And your son, you said, was one of seven classical majors?
	Seven.
	Out of how many people in that university?
	Do you know the number?
	Well, it's Stanford.
	It's not a small university.
	Well, in Stanford, I think it was about five or six years ago, in fact, I wrote a piece on this, for our Institute for Faith and Freedom website, they put up to the students a vote a few years ago on whether or not to require Western Civ.
	And the students voted it down.
	They rejected it.
	And I think I told about in that same article, students at Indiana University in Bloomington having a freakout one night when a Dominican friar showed up on campus walking around in his white robe and they were melting down, Seb, that there was a KKK guy walking Seb, that there was a KKK guy walking around on campus.
	And he also had a whip hanging from, the whip was his rosary and the rope that went around his waist.
	So what does that tell you about the modern university when they think that a Dominican friar is a hooded Klansman, right?
	What that tells you is what they're being taught.
	They're being taught nothing about religion, nothing about Western Civ, nothing about the people like the monks, you know, St.
	Benedict and so forth, you know, who preserved Western civilization and started the universities, but they're learning about race, race, race, sexuality, sexuality, sexuality, gender, gender, gender.
	As a cradle Catholic who spent 13 years at a Catholic school and then ended up in college with the Jesuits, I gotta laugh for a second, because that's a level of ignorance, you know, that a monk in a habit is a clansman with a whip.
	I mean, you know, I laugh, but then, the flip side, Paul, I think that's a level of brainwashing that North Korea would be proud of.
	It's shocking.
	In fact, what makes it kind of worse in North Korea is it's a willful ignorance.
	It's an ignorance under freedom.
	It's not a coerced ignorance.
	They're choosing to go to these colleges and learn all these things.
	When we at Grove City College added a Western Civ course to our six-course humanities curriculum about three years ago.
	That's the complete opposite of what everyone else is doing, right?
	Jesse Jackson, hey, hey, ho, ho, Western Civ has got to go.
	When I was at—I visited near Shenley Park, my alma mater, University of Pittsburgh, a few months ago, and I looked down towards Shenley Park, Seb, and I could see a giant sheet over top of the statue.
	And I started walking down the street.
	It was where, when I first went to the University of Pittsburgh in 1987, I sat under that statue of Christopher Columbus and read my readings in the first course that I took there, first semester, my required Western Civ course.
	That course is no longer being taught, and the statue of Columbus is not only covered up, it's being taken down.
	Now, what does that tell you about a nation that tears down the statues of the man who discovered the country?
	Well, you know, a civilization or a nation cannot survive if it hates itself and if it hates those that helped build that nation.
	That's irrespective of politics.
	That's just a statement of fact.
	We're talking to the author of The Devil and Karl Marx.
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	Can we spend, can we pretend for a few minutes, Paul, that we're in one of your graduate school classes, because when I, you know, I used to teach a one-on-one on the Cold War, and I used to start the first lecture on what is communism, because you have to understand, you know, the The fake science that is communism.
	Karl Marx said that this is scientific, that this materialist dialectic is like physics, like mathematics.
	It's a con.
	There is nothing scientific about it.
	But let's just remind people how stupid and insane and inane this construct was.
	The idea is, cribbing off and perverting the ideas of the first dialectic from Hegel, that History is a progression.
	It's always progressing.
	For Hegel, it's a progression to the ultimate truth, which is God.
	Marx flipped it and said, no, the immaterial is irrelevant.
	God is irrelevant.
	The only thing that matters is matter is the material.
	The history of mankind is a thesis, antithesis, and it is based upon tension.
	And the ultimate tension is the conflict between the oppressed and the oppressors.
	And eventually this tension will lead to the final revolution, which will bring us socialism, which is the waypoint towards communism, at which point magically, they didn't quite explain it magically, private property ceases to exist.
	Everybody owns nothing and everything at the same time, and everything's equal.
	When you say it like that, it sounds so moronic, but that really is the essence, isn't it?
	Yeah, you put it very well.
	In fact, not only would property disappear, classes would disappear, capital would disappear, states would disappear, family and marriage would disappear.
	So you have all these things magically being abolished.
	Abolition, right?
	And also, too, you're right, Seb, he tried to apply some sort of scientific veneer to all of this.
	Ingalls at Marx's funeral quoted Darwin.
	And he said Marx is doing for the social sciences what Darwin did for the biological sciences.
	So there would be this inevitable evolution where society would pass through these various stages, from slavery and feudalism, to capitalism, to socialism, to eventually communism.
	So history would pass through these different stages.
	And if you're looking for a short, quick definition of communism, Marx and Engels pretty much gave it in the Communist Manifesto.
	People will say to me all the time, if you had to define communism in a single sentence, what would it be?
	And I say, well, go to Marx and Engels in the Manifesto.
	They said, quote, the entire communist theory may be summed up in a single sentence, abolition of private property.
	Yeah.
	So that's how they put it.
	So for them, you know, this alpha and omega to get there required abolishing private property.
	And you cannot do that.
	You cannot do that without force.
	You can't do it without force.
	You can't do it without guns.
	You can't do it without gulags.
	It's a basic right.
	It's a sacred right.
	Some people consider it a flat-out natural right, from the cave to the courthouse.
	I mean, the Ten Commandments, right?
	Thou shalt not steal implies that you have the right to property.
	And all of this is so ironic, too, because Marx himself was a really greedy man.
	And all that Marx cared about was property and capital.
	And how much money he could sponge off Engels because he never worked a day in his life!
	That's right.
	Ingalls was his sugar daddy.
	Got all of his money from Ingalls.
	Tried to get as much money as he could from his wife, Laura.
	In fact, everybody in Marx's family had to cut off him and his wife.
	His father finally cut him off.
	Marx didn't attend his father's funeral.
	Marx became so angry at his father.
	Marx's mother and wife both separately expressed the wish in writing the quote, Karl would start accumulating some capital rather than just writing about capital.
	And for them, too, and you see this among so much of the left generally, Seb, whatever they're accusing you of is what they're obsessed about.
	Right.
	And what they're doing themselves.
	Yeah, that's exactly right.
	And I mean, Marx was trying to fashion a golden calf out of money, out of material.
	I quote in The Devil and Karl Marx, his hideous statements about Jews.
	One of them was, let me see what I can think of off the top of my head.
	What is the worldly god of the Jew?
	Money, right?
	Haggling.
	He has these statements about Jews that Hitler could have said.
	Right.
	And you read these, and if you know anything about Marx, you think, no Carl, your worldly god is money.
	All you care about is money.
	In fact, Pope Benedict XVI said, you know, Marx believed that the key to the New Jerusalem was money, right?
	If Augustine said, we have a God-shaped vacuum in all of us that only God can fill, Marx to Marx, we had a dollar-shaped vacuum in all of us.
	That only money could fill.
	And like Jesus said to Satan, man does not live by bread alone.
	The Marxists believe that man lives by bread alone.
	They try to abolish religion entirely.
	If you say only the material world exists, of course you're going to be a worshipping mammon.
	I have to bring all of this up to the present day, Paul.
	If you look at what's happened to President Trump, the impeachments, the illegal spying, what happened to Mike Flynn, Manafort, Bannon, now Navarro, how the IRS was weaponized by Obama,
	You can be very depressed and it's easy to give up faith in the principles we hold to be true, but given your expertise in communist regimes, if you look at Ceausescu's Romania, if you look at Hoxha's Albania, there is a point at which these regimes, paradoxically, the stronger they try to grip The people beneath them, the more fragile they become.
	So at the end of the day, the more authoritarian your proclivities, doesn't mean that you're becoming stronger and stronger necessarily.
	Well, and especially in a democracy where you have the ability to actually change it, right?
	Actually, I'm getting tired of the way the left is using the word democracy.
	Democracy, right?
	But in this representative republic, you have the ability to change it.
	Now, what does discourage me, not only the universities and what young people are learning, and more importantly, what they're not learning, But social media and big tech, I mean, it's really making a lot of this really difficult.
	In November 2020, suddenly nobody could question whether or not there might have been voter fraud in a presidential election after four years of the Democrats, for four years every day, telling us that the 2016 election had been rigged and stolen by Trump and Putin.
	Yeah.
	So it's like, wait a second.
	I listened to this from you guys for four years.
	I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, right?
	Tinfoil hat liberals for four years talking about collusion, collusion, right?
	Voter fraud, voter fraud.
	And then in November 2020, you can't talk about it anymore?
	I mean, there's voter fraud in every election, and now you can't talk about it anymore.
	But this is very frustrating.
	It can be despairing.
	But yeah, you do still have elections.
	And I don't know, maybe there'll be a big correction in November 2022.
	It's up to us.
	It's up to us.
	That's the way it works in our constitutional republic.
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	They need to read your books.
	I'm just going to mention three of them.
	I'm going to mention the most recent, The Devil and Karl Marx.
	Then the book about the Pope and the President, a superlative work.
	You've got to get those two as well, a Pope and a President.
	And then lastly, my favorite is Dupes.
	But beyond the homework that... Wow, that was impressive.
	I didn't even know we had that image.
	Nicely done, Eric.
	Beyond reading anything that Kengor's written, what advice do you give to those who are worried about their children or their grandchildren?
	How do they inoculate them from the lies of the people who want them to think that a monk is a member of the KKK with a whip?
	We love what PragerU is doing with their short videos, Turning Point USA, one of the most important organizations out there.
	But if you had a message for the adults watching in terms of homework they could do or give to their loved ones or their children, where would they start?
	Well, really the most important thing indeed is where you send them to school, right?
	And especially if you're sending them to a private school, which you should, or homeschool them.
	And then after that, once the girl or boy is 18 years old, you really can't send them off to these radical secular universities.
	Now look, sometimes you can, okay?
	But they've got to be really grounded.
	They've got to be really strong.
	And a big mistake that a lot of parents make, I hear this all the time, is, oh, Susie will be okay, right?
	She's had all her religious ed courses and everything.
	I had parents tell me about their son, Oh, he's taking a religion course his first semester.
	It'll be okay.
	And I asked them at Thanksgiving where they were vetting to me about how terribly liberal their son's school was.
	They said, how's the religion course going?
	And the mom said, it's taught by an atheist!
	I said, well, of course it's taught by an atheist.
	What do you think, C.S.
	Lewis was going to be teaching it?
	It's an anti-religion course.
	It's not a religion course.
	It's an anti-religion course.
	That's exactly right.
	But I would tell them this too, and I think this is kind of good practical advice.
	Equip them now to, every morning, I hear this all the time, where do you go for information?
	What do you read?
	Give them a dozen different sources and tell them to read them every day.
	And really focus on, especially with a young person, say, look, you're open-minded, right?
	Your liberal university is teaching you to believe in diversity.
	Prove your open-mindedness and diversity by reading a mixed number of sources.
	So in the morning, check CNN.com but also check FoxNews.com.
	And if their professor says, no, this is the only thing you should be reading, you should only be reading Howard Zinn or Noam Chomsky Then they should be told by their parents and their grandparents that that's a bad professor.
	Unlike Paul Kengor, you've got to read his books.
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