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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: War Room's Steve Bannon sentenced to prison

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	Thank you.
	On November 8th, the American people will raise judgment, and we will broom.
	The Biden administration ends on the evening of the 8th of November.
	And let me be—let me—some other thing is that the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland, will end up being the first attorney general that's brought up on charges of impeachment, and he will be removed from office.
	That was my former colleague, my boss, in fact, inside the White House.
	I was strategist to President Trump, and the only person between me and the president was the chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, former naval, U.S.
	Navy officer, the former, I think he was CEO of Breitbart.com before he joined the administration, and the man who took President Trump's campaign from 16 points behind Hillary Clinton to crush that corrupt Harridan.
	And he was sentenced earlier today to four months in federal prison.
	Why?
	Because he refused to comply with a subpoena from the illegally constituted January 6th Committee of Nancy Pelosi.
	Yes, illegally constituted.
	Why?
	Because you cannot have a temporary investigative committee without two requirements.
	Both parties' members on the committee as nominated by their leadership And the committee can only be constituted to hold investigations pertaining to pending legislation.
	Neither of those is the case with the January 6th show trial.
	Kevin McCarthy's nominees for that committee, such as Jim Jordan, were ignored, were dismissed by Nancy Pelosi.
	Instead, she chose never-Trumper Republicans Like Liz Cheney.
	As such, it is an illegal committee.
	Secondly, there is no draft legislation of any nature on the books pertaining to January the 6th.
	Therefore, there is no purpose for the committee except to intimidate Americans who disagree with Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats.
	Now of course he will appeal, but I want you to be clear, if you're one of the three million people listening to us and not watching us on the Salem News Channel, you have to understand the visuals of that.
	Let's ask people who aren't, Sebastian Gorka.
	Eric, would you describe the expression on Steve Bannon's face as he made that speech?
	He seemed, above all else, I think determined.
	Determined knowing that this is just the latest fight.
	It's an ugly fight.
	It should never have had to get to this point in the first place, but he knows that he has no choice but to continue fighting, as we all do.
	Right.
	There's a reason we call him the Honey Badger.
	Jeff, what was his facial expression as he gave that speech?
	He could care less.
	I'll talk to you for a minute, then I gotta get back and do my show of the war room.
	Yes, and there's one more thing.
	There's one more thing.
	He was smiling.
	When you've been sentenced to prison, it is unusual for you to smile.
	Let's just show it again for those who are watching us.
	Stephen K Bannon.
	Not before sentencing.
	After sentencing.
	On a sunny day here in the swamp.
	Play cut.
	On November 8th, the American people will raise judgment, and we will broom.
	The Biden administration ends on the evening of the 8th of November.
	And let me be—let me—some other thing, is that the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland, will end up being the first attorney general that's brought up on charges of impeachment, and he will be removed from office.
	Yep, that man, he was smiling.
	You could even see it in his eyes.
	He was in a good mood because he is the Honey Badger.
	Now, I'm going to do something that will impress even my producer.
	It takes a lot to impress Mr. G. I'm going to connect that event and that clip to a less than obvious cut on our cut sheet here, and I'm going to connect it to Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Kastner.
	Can you suspect, Mr. G, what the connection is?
	I really don't know where you're going with this.
	I am impressed.
	First time in three and a half years!
	And I've stumped him!
	But it came to me as I was walking into the studio after watching these cuts.
	Now, I've recognized the name Larry Kastner.
	If you put a photograph in front of me of him, I couldn't have told you who it was.
	But now I see his name.
	But this, this clip fits perfectly Next to the clip of Steve Bannon.
	And I'll explain in a moment.
	So just listen to what the man who has helped destroy the city that I was in.
	Where was I?
	Like two days ago?
	Two days ago?
	Two days ago.
	That was an amazing city.
	As I said in an interview that Tom Traddock caught, it was beautiful flying into Philly architecturally.
	Just an amazing city until you got out of the plane and you smell the stank of ganja.
	I mean, it's just, it is such a destroyed city.
	Who destroyed it?
	Well, let's listen to the District Attorney, Larry Kasner, Cut10.
	Part of the Republican playbook, as you well know, is to point a finger at large, diverse cities and say large, diverse cities are lawless.
	Does that remind you of anything?
	You ever heard that before?
	Those of you in the press are students of history.
	You're aware of the Southern Strategy.
	What we see here is the same old playbook.
	Which is about coded and racist messaging.
	That is a really important cut.
	Just think about what he just said.
	The man responsible for putting criminals behind bars in one of the biggest cities in America that is now a What did you say, Jeff, about where I was staying?
	What did you say about the cigar bar and the restaurants?
	It was like the center of activity, right?
	Yeah, you're in Center City, right near Rittenhouse Square and all that.
	That's where it used to be the nicest and safest part of the city.
	The best hotels, best restaurants, all of that.
	And now?
	Oh, it's not even safe at all.
	Nobody goes there anymore.
	Okay, so the man who's responsible for that, in part, along with the mayor and everybody else, is Riley Kastner.
	So he's feeling the heat.
	He is feeling the political heat.
	And what is his response?
	His response is that we're a diverse city and it's racists who are pointing out the crime in our city.
	It's not the crime that's the problem, it's That if you're pointing it out, it's a diverse city, that means you're a racist.
	Which is weird, because Texas, pretty stinking diverse state, right?
	Pretty diverse!
	Doesn't have rampant crime!
	But you do.
	And then he adds, the southern strategy!
	What world are we living in where a district attorney thinks he has to mention the fictitious Southern strategy to justify the lawlessness in his city?
	I'll tell you what the connection is.
	The Democrats are in big trouble.
	Big trouble.
	We are 18 days out from an election and what do they think is going to save them?
	Trying to justify rampant crime in Philadelphia because of the Southern strategy?
	And they're so stupid as well as desperate It's just like Ben Kenobi at the end of Star Wars, the original one, the best one.
	If you strike me down now, Darth, I will be stronger than you can ever imagine.
	Steve Bannon is going to be more powerful, with a bigger audience, able to mobilize millions more of What he calls the Hobbits of the Shire than ever before!
	Whether he successfully appeals or whether he serves his four months, the Democrats are crashing and burning and it is a beautiful sight to behold.
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	Sign of desperation.
	When the Philly DA has to mention the Southern strategy, it's just boom.
	That's also why you don't elect a former trial attorney to be a DA that made his whole life on police brutality.
	That's all he sued for.
	He was like the first Soros guy, too.
	Oh, that's why I know his name.
	He did this huge documentary, PBS, on him.
	And he goes around and coaches all these new ones.
	How long has he been in office?
	He got re-elected last year, so I guess it's been like five years.
	Wow.
	Okay, so the social media image are the ones that Casio created.
	Yeah, show them to me.
	Um, they're- well, I don't have them loaded at the moment because there were three different ones.
	Oh.
	Do you have them in an email or what?
	Yeah, let me re-forward it to you.
	They're all cool.
	I actually like the original white brick wall look.
	Like, maybe that's just me because I like walls.
	Hey, it doesn't- it's too hard to read.
	Oh, good point.
	That's why I put yellow.
	Alright, I just forwarded it to you.
	Should we keep in parlor on it?
	Shouldn't we?
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	Stamped it.
	Oh.
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	Right.
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
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	We'll be right back.
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	First on the line, first dialing in, line one from Orlando, David.
	David, welcome and happy Friday.
	Doctor, how are you?
	Good.
	And I'm jumping for joy that Steve Bannon is going to jail, and now Eric Holder and all the other Democrats, the one who helped Hillary Clinton with her closet server, are going to have to look over their shoulder next time they get subpoenaed and wonder if they're going to be going to jail.
	Because Holder and all the others, they gave the middle finger salute to Congress, and when the Republicans take control, The games continue.
	Yeah, I love it.
	You know, what goes around, what comes around goes around.
	What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
	There's only one little, little detail with that, David.
	You'd have to have fair judges and you'd have to have a capital where the population didn't vote 93% for Biden and the juries actually are impartial.
	But at least we can have a little fantasy.
	Sharon in Philadelphia, line two.
	How are you today, Dr. Gorka?
	You know, it's weird.
	I thought I'd be in a worse mood since my former boss and colleague was sentenced to prison time, but I feel really energized.
	How about you, my friend?
	I feel pretty good myself, yeah.
	I'll feel better in a few weeks, that's for sure.
	I think I know why you said that.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment, Sharon?
	Well, when you were talking about Philly and Krasner and stuff, like, I mean, Everything is closed.
	If you're out on the road at 9 o'clock, you're about the only one out.
	Wawa's are closing.
	My one friend and I the other night, we were doing something and it was after 12 and we went to the Wawa, back door was locked.
	So we go to the front door, locked.
	All kinds of cars underneath where the gas Hold on the line, Sharon.
	Jeff, what did you say about where you used to buy gas when you were in Philly?
	But it's just a disgrace what's going on.
	Hold on the line, Sharon.
	Jeff, what did you say about where you used to buy gas when you were in Philly?
	Where did you go?
	I used to go to the gas station.
	It was in a store yesterday on the rundown where the cop car was surrounded.
	They had their windshield broken.
	They threw bricks into it.
	And I used to always go to that gas station at night because there was always cops there and it was safe.
	That's why I would go there.
	So the one that you used to go to because it was safe is now the one where they were attacking a patrol car?
	Yes.
	Insane, insane.
	I gotta ask you, Sharon, when you hear Krasner say, oh, oh, it's not crime really, it's racist people pointing out that there's crime, your reaction?
	Uh, usually as soon as I hear his name, I switch off.
	I can't take it.
	I can't take it.
	You know, I just cannot believe what people do.
	And can I say one other quick thing?
	You may Sharon, you may.
	It's Friday.
	We will be liberal.
	Carry on.
	Okay.
	My youngest daughter lives in Europe and she was raised to not be, you know what?
	We're blue collar people.
	She was smart.
	We sent her to college.
	Worst thing we ever did.
	Worst thing we ever did.
	Now, she lives in Europe for the last 10 years.
	And so we don't talk about politics, right?
	And so we were talking.
	She said, I'm getting ready to send in my absentee ballot.
	She's voting for Fetterman.
	I'm like, Lynch, you can't.
	So anyways, I was watching Tucker Carlson that night, and I sent her a text.
	I said, look, I want you to do me a favor.
	Watch what he says about Fetterman.
	And then if you still think that he's any good, do what you have to do, right?
	And she sent me a text back saying, I watched it, even though I really hate that fear-mongering a-hole, Tucker Carlson.
	I'll still be voting for someone who shares my views, and will be voting in the Senate in a way that protects Americans.
	And I'm trying to figure out what the comp... Oh, never mind.
	And so I just sent her something backstage.
	I don't have a problem with that, but hopefully... Hang on, you've lost me.
	You're not telling the story well.
	Who's she voting for, Sharon?
	I don't know.
	She was voting for Fetterman.
	But after she watched Tucker, has she changed her mind about Fetterman?
	I haven't talked to her about it because it leads to an argument.
	It leads to an argument every time.
	And, I mean, she came home from Temple one day and said something like, oh, I have to go vote.
	I'm like, well, no, this is Democratic.
	She switched, without telling me, so she could vote for Obama.
	And it still didn't dawn on me until all this happened.
	That's what happened, is Temple happened.
	I'm so sorry that we wasted the money on that.
	Of course, no student loans, or what they are, are paid off.
	So it's doing us no good.
	And it's the way the city is.
	Everything's closed, you know?
	You paid.
	Or your daughter paid to be indoctrinated to a place where she hates America.
	That is the truth.
	Stay on the line, Sharon.
	Let's give Sharon a signed copy of Defeating Jihad because she deserves it because she's living in Philadelphia.
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	So, expression 2 guy.
	So we've got all three here.
	Just to show which one.
	Here's the first one, take it.
	Here's just plain background.
	Oh, that's superb.
	That's superb, yep.
	Uh, cracked wall background.
	Nope.
	And spotted yellow background.
	Excellent.
	First one.
	Pitch the other two.
	I thought so, yeah.
	I like the first one.
	That really pops.
	Yeah, let me... Gotta shrink it a little bit so the Chiron doesn't pop.
	So hang on.
	So what do we have there?
	We've got... We have... Truth, Parlour... What's the one under Parlour?
	Is that Getter?
	No, what is that?
	The one under Parlour is... Is that Clout Hub?
	No, what is that?
	The very bottom is Clout Hub.
	Come on, Alex.
	He's the youngest.
	What the flip is that thing under Parlour?
	That's a Getter.
	That's Getter.
	Why isn't Getter a G?
	It's the torch symbol.
	How stupid is that?
	That's, that's... Hasn't it always been the torch?
	What is Cloud Hub even?
	It's like a YouTube alternative.
	I've never heard of that one.
	I've never heard of Cloud Hub either.
	Alright, so use that one.
	Hang on, put it back up.
	Put it back up.
	I gotta shrink it a little bit.
	So we'll pitch... I'm gonna tell him to take off Cloud.
	Because it's a little bit too crushed.
	And then we'll take off... Anything else we should take off?
	Well, just Twitter, True Social.
	And Getter and Parler are all the same.
	That's the same type of, you know what I mean, it's basically Twitter.
	We should just do Twitter and Truth.
	Should we also add, um, was it Locals?
	Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	What did you say, Geoff?
	Those four, Twitter, Parler, Getter, they're all the same type of app, you know what I mean?
	Yeah, but there are some people who refuse to use Twitter.
	Yeah, but I'm saying Twitter's fine, Truth is fine, but I don't... I mean, Getter, I don't... Okay, so, so... We'll get rid of Clout.
	Um, I wanna make... I would agree that, yeah, to a certain extent, Getter and Parler are kind of... As long as Truth's social's around, Getter and Parler are kind of moot, because they came before Truth.
	Um, I would add, um... Shouldn't we add Locals on there?
	Um... No, no, because I'm focusing on Substack.
	Okay.
	I think we should add Spotify for the podcast.
	Mm.
	Uh, but that's not a you, that's not a... There's no Twitter handle.
	There's no name.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Is there anything, any comments?
	John, Alex, now or forever hold your peace.
	You are in the church.
	You're about to get married.
	Any comments?
	Guy, Guy, any comments?
	Has anyone here used Gitter in the last month?
	I used Gitter to keep up with Bannon.
	Interesting.
	Um, Alex.
	He's only on Gitter.
	Alex, comments?
	Uh, I don't like the white backgrounds on the icons.
	Interesting.
	It needs to be a PNG with no white.
	You mean like transparent background?
	Oh, PNG, no white.
	I even know what he means.
	Why, why?
	Okay, so we'll get rid of clout, and we can't have Rumble touching my shoulder either.
	That's messy.
	That's a good point.
	Rumble shoulder.
	There we go.
	So now it doesn't... Why is Facebook, why is there a gap after the at?
	Ooh, good point.
	Yeah, I can bring that up.
	Gaps, Facebook.
	Same with Instagram too.
	Hang on, hang on.
	There's not, it's just because it's an A instead of an S.
	What?
	I don't think there is a gap.
	Is there?
	There is a gap.
	There's a gap between the at symbol and the A in America.
	Same with Instagram.
	Alright, good.
	Alright, start using that.
	Alright, what are we doing?
	Have you blocked the lines?
	No, I can't.
	What's the best call?
	One is good, and then four is good.
	One and four.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	All right.
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	I'm going to pick somebody to talk to simply because I've been to King of Prussia and it is perhaps one of the coolest names in America.
	We're going to go to Pennsylvania!
	It's Richard, King of Prussia!
	Hi, greetings.
	I live in Philly and I've been following this Krasner saga very closely.
	So first tell me, when he gives a press conference, how do the people of Philly respond?
	What is the media response like?
	Oh, the media loves the guy.
	Yeah.
	I mean, the Philadelphia Inquirer and the stations, they love this guy.
	He's their hero, because he tells them what they want to hear.
	That's the 20% that voted for him.
	Right.
	And then the rest have to live with his death and destruction.
	There was a 13-year-old girl that was raped at a subway station in Center City today.
	Are you serious?
	Going to school.
	Going to school.
	Center City.
	I mean, it's incredible.
	I mean, I lived here all my life, and I will not go in the Philly anymore, except to go to a ballgame, which is just basically off 95.
	All right, so what made you call us today, Richard?
	Well, Krasner, he's before a subcommittee in the Pennsylvania House that will probably recommend impeachment on Monday.
	Good!
	In addition, the House head Democrat of the Pennsylvania House, has cleared her Democrat cohorts to vote for impeachment if they feel necessary.
	Why?
	Because he's become such a liability even to the Democrats?
	What's the reason, Richard?
	Well, my theory is that the election coming up, all the House is going to be up for re-election, and crime is big in Pennsylvania, and they may lose their races if they look to be protecting this guy that's just bleeding blood all over Philly.
	Well, I hope it happens.
	I really appreciate the update.
	Thank you, Richard.
	Let's go to Jim Line 2 calling us from... Where is he calling from?
	Missouri.
	Hey, welcome, Jim.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	I just want to say, Steve Bannon, we got your back, brother.
	I'll serve an hour in purgatory at my house to back you up, brother.
	You know what would be really cool?
	If people just, if we had a vigil for Steve, if they put him away, it's going to be for a couple of months, you know, if we had a vigil outside his prison, wherever he is with people rotating out, could you imagine the message that would be sent?
	God bless you, Jim.
	Yeah, he's a good Catholic boy.
	He's a mackerel snapper like me.
	A good Irish family from Richmond.
	Let's pray for Steve.
	He doesn't need our prayers, but it's a good thing.
	He will keep fighting.
	But thank you, Jim.
	Yes, indeed.
	We got to stick together.
	Brian Green Bay, line three.
	Hey, Seth.
	It's your buddy Brian from Green Bay.
	Hey, what's up?
	Man, I tell you what.
	I'm going to give you a name.
	Excuse me.
	China is trying to buy some stuff up in Grand Forks.
	Are you aware of that at all?
	Well, you have to be a little bit more specific.
	China's trying to buy some stuff at Grand Forks is a little bit vague, my friend.
	Can you give us some more details?
	It's a little vague.
	A lot of people, it's not on the radar right now, but it's right near the military U.S.
	Air Force Base, and they're trying to put a plant in, and they're buying about 1,000 acres up in Grand Forks.
	And Todd Finland, who is the city administrator, is trying to promote this.
	And I just think it's, you know, I just, I can't see them buying this near the military base.
	I don't like it.
	And, you know, I want some people to blow his phone up.
	All right.
	Well, I think we saw this already with who is that disgraced admiral who acts as a spokesman for the administration.
	He was asked this question and his response was, I'm sorry, I'm not an expert in real estate.
	What an utter, utter disgrace when somebody asks, why is China buying property around our military bases?
	Yeah, I think even Tucker did a segment on that.
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	She is the former sheriff of Chester County, Caroline Bunny Welsh.
	Welcome to America First!
	Well, thank you so much, Sebastian.
	And let me tell you, that event the other night with you and Chris de Gaulle and Mike Gallagher and Dennis Prager, you talk about a manhood hour.
	That was it.
	That was, yeah, the testosterone levels were pretty high.
	I hope they weren't overwhelming.
	You came up to me.
	We got a few selfies.
	We chatted with the officers of Warminster who were looking after us.
	But then you said you have been going through some interesting times, in part thanks to your support of my former boss, President Trump.
	So, Sheriff Welsh, walk us through the last few years for you, what you did for President Trump and what the left is trying to do to you.
	Well, I was involved with President Trump and supported him from the moment he came down the escalator.
	I thought he was amazing and was sure he was the right answer and God's answer to our country.
	I got very involved.
	I was then involved with the National Sheriffs Association.
	I became the vice chair of America's Sheriffs for Trump.
	I was also appointed by the President to the National Advisory Board for Women for Trump, and I was very prominent.
	I was a delegate in the convention in 2016.
	I was an elector in the Electoral College in 2016.
	I was also a delegate and an elector in 2020, so that put me very prominently and many visits to the White House.
	Why did you and your fellow LEOs, your fellow law enforcement officers, have such a good relationship with my old boss?
	I will tell you why.
	He was, after he was inaugurated in January, one of the first meetings he had was with law enforcement.
	I was one of the 10 sheriffs, the all of the other agencies, chiefs of police, FOP.
	He invited us for a private meeting in the Roosevelt Room.
	There were about 30 of us.
	And he sat, Sebastian, and really listened to what we wanted to say.
	He didn't bring us in to tell us, he brought us in to listen to us.
	And he went around the entire table, and at the end of that meeting, he said, I've got your back.
	And we said, we've got yours.
	And he was one of the strongest presidents ever to support whether it was the county sheriff, the municipal police, the state police, all of the law enforcement agencies.
	Within a month of his inauguration, he had made the statement that he had our back.
	God bless.
	Alright, so you supported him unequivocally.
	You've been involved in election integrity issues.
	What is the left trying to do to you now, Carolyn?
	Well, I've been attacked over the last few years on a county level and on a state level, and recently the FBI knocking at my door.
	But I think, and that was because I was an elector in the Electoral College, but I think what their purpose, Sebastian, is to silence you.
	It doesn't matter how they do it.
	It doesn't matter if they do it on a local level, trying to attack you, and of course the press works with them to try to smear you.
	It doesn't matter if they try to go after your good name, your integrity, your agency.
	It's to silence you and to make you stop speaking out.
	And the way they did that to me over the last few years on every level was to attack, to even charge.
	I ended up with two misdemeanors, believe it or not.
	And to begin to make you fearful of speaking.
	I have to ask, Mr. Meaners, for what as a former sheriff?
	Are you ready for this?
	I don't know if I'm ready.
	I don't know if our three million listeners are ready, but you know, shoot!
	Well, I did a lot of fundraising outside of the county for the sheriff's office to support our K-9 to support our Honor Guard and to support our Fugitive Apprehension Unit.
	It was not county money.
	After a long and involved, and it's too long to go into, examination of all those funds, which they found no impropriety, everything was accounted for, they charged me with two misdemeanors, which are very seldom enforced, for using government workers for non-government work.
	In other words, this sounds silly, I let the deputy sheriff Cooked frog legs and alligator meat for a wild game dinner on county time.
	And I was charged with... No, no, no.
	This is not true.
	Is it April 1st?
	You're joking, right?
	You're joking.
	I kid you not.
	I kid you not.
	In fact, the visiting judge that came in said, he shook his head and said, in 40 years, I've never seen this kind of face.
	Insane.
	Alright, so we've got a minute left.
	What is your message to those who feel that they will also be intimidated if they stand up for the truth?
	You've worn the badge, you've worn the uniform, you're talking to three million people from New York to D.C., from Texas to California.
	What's your message, Sheriff?
	Just stay strong.
	Do the right thing and do not let them either make you fear Or intimidate you in any way, because look, you know we have two really important races here in Pennsylvania.
	We have a U.S.
	Senate race with Dr. Oz, an extraordinary candidate who's standing strong.
	We have a gubernatorial race with Doug Mastriano, another extraordinary, true patriot, 30-year veteran.
	And these are men who are standing strong, and law enforcement and all of the law enforcement agencies, whether they're local, state, or federal, We need to stand strong and not be intimidated and not be in any way silenced.
	And the same with, I'm so proud of our two candidates that are running for U.S.
	Senate and for the governor's race here in the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
	Well, I want to thank you for your service to Chester County, for your support of my former boss, President Trump, and for coming on our show today.
	That is Carolyn Welch, former sheriff of Chester County, Pennsylvania.
	And thank you to the Warminster law enforcement officers who protected us when we were there in Philadelphia.
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	No, those have to be teed up.
	I guess the other Biden, the 11, that's the shortest one.
	Actually, just come in with Bannon again, cut 9.
	Come in with Bannon again, you got it.
	Alright.
	All right. 25 seconds. 25 seconds.
	25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds.
	The Biden administration ends on the evening of the 8th of November.
	And let me be—let me—some other thing, is that the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland, will end up being the first attorney general that's brought up on charges of impeachment, and he will be removed from office.
	That is Steve Bannon after being sentenced to four months in prison.
	Smiling.
	Sending a message to the swamp.
	A swamp that has nothing.
	All they have is abortion.
	All they have is calling other people racists.
	Oh, and then what's the response?
	From our side, from the institutional conservatives, the rhinos, the swamp creatures, Jeb Bush is, of course, I'd forgotten Jeb Bush.
	I forgot he even existed, but he's on CNN and, um, well, he's just being Jeb Bush.
	Cut four.
	Play cut.
	My guess is, I don't know this for a fact, I'm not a great pundit on these matters, but my guess is that there'll be a yearning for, A, a new generation of leadership in our country in 2024, and B, candidates that are focused on the future, not necessarily the grievances of the past.
	So, whether or not the former president runs or not, I have no clue, but he'll be formidable, but there'll be other candidates that will be able to make their case for sure.
	Did that energize you, Jeff, when you saw that man sitting there speaking so... I mean, that was almost exactly the same as Steve Bannon outside the courthouse, wasn't it?
	Yeah, basically, Jeb was just repeating the same things that Asia Hutchinson said the other day, and Asia Hutchinson actually delivered it much better.
	He was not a very good speaker.
	Yeah, Asa Hutchinson, who said, what did he say?
	The outgoing governor of Arkansas saying that we are in a post-Trump GOP, as he is going to be replaced by who?
	Oh, hang on, let me think.
	Oh yeah, President Trump's former press secretary, Huckabee Sanders.
	That's how post-Trump the GOP is.
	Because he has endorsed, what, 220 people in the last year and a half, and 211 of them have won their elections.
	That's how post-Trump the GOP is.
	Oh, how can we get rid of these rhinos faster?
	Oh, I know.
	How about winning some elections?
	How about everybody who's listening to this show making sure that they, they personally take ten other people to the polls.
	People who won't otherwise go to the polls because, oh, it's raining, or they think their vote doesn't matter.
	If you did that, forget about everybody else on our platform.
	You heard what the New York Times said.
	We are the juggernaut of conservative radio with nine million listeners in Areas of America that the mainstream media doesn't cater to.
	Yeah, real America.
	Imagine if everyone listened to just this show with 3 million listeners.
	Took 10 people to the polling stations in 18 days.
	It would be a wipeout!
	Not a tsunami, it would be Hurricane Ian politically for the Democrats.
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	I'm on the streets!
	I'm on the streets!
	Eric, you got that?
	Yes, coming with Bannon again.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	All right, 20 seconds.
	Stand by, Boris.
	Let's do it.
	I'm on the streets.
	I'm on the streets.
	Oh, yeah?
	Are you starting the revolution?
	I'm starting.
	I'm running the streets.
	Okay.
	All right.
	On November 8th, the American people will raise judgment, and we will broom.
	The Biden administration ends on the evening of the 8th of November.
	And let me be—let me—some other thing, is that the Department of Justice, Merrick Garland, will end up being the first attorney general that's brought up on charges of impeachment, and he will be removed from office.
	There's nothing quite like Steve Bannon, I have to say.
	I could fill the next two hours of this show talking about what it was like working with him at Bright Butt when I was the national security editor and working as his deputy as a strategist to President Trump.
	But I think you get a flavor of it, my friends.
	That was earlier today.
	That wasn't before the sentencing.
	That was after the sentencing, after getting four months in prison for being in contempt.
	Do you find Congress contemptible?
	Are they gonna give you four months in prison as well?
	Because that's what they give Steve Bannon.
	And of course he's gonna appeal it.
	But... He was smiling.
	He was smiling!
	I think I know why.
	Because he is more powerful than he has ever been before.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	My friend, it's an honor to be with you.
	Honor to be here today.
	Honor to be at America First.
	And an honor to be talking about the one or only honeydatcher, Steve Bannon, coming in strong, coming in hot today.
	As always, not giving it an inch, continuing to fight for the MAGA movement, for our country, and for President Donald J. Trump.
	Yeah, you are, you know the Honey Badger as we call him very well.
	You are on his show, The War Room, what, every day or at least multiple times a week?
	I have the honor to be on there almost every single day.
	And every single day we talk about how ascended MAGA is, how the strength of our movement of Make America Great Again movement and President Donald J. Trump are only rising, and how all these witch hunts, all these targeted attacks are absolutely failing, and all they're doing is all these targeted attacks are absolutely failing, and all they're doing is making us stronger, making us more powerful, and they are taking us to a win in November, a win in November 8th, the likes of which has never been seen before, and then from there, a huge win in 2024,
	the likes of which has never been seen before, and then from there, a huge win in 2024, and as we hope and expect, All right, guys, I was on with Steve Bannon on his war room just yesterday for two segments.
	They went absolutely viral.
	Even Steve texted me afterwards to say how on fire those segments were.
	They're on our social media.
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	Check them out after the show.
	You can listen to the segments I did with Steve yesterday about what it's going to take to drain the swamp.
	specific plan I have for the second Trump administration.
	We'll talk about the subpoena being delivered to President Trump.
	You are, of course, one of the attorneys for our former president.
	But give us your analysis, not just of the midterms, Boris, but, you know, this – to do this just 18 days before a midterm – What is the best way to describe that?
	Because you can say it's dumb for the Democrats.
	You can say it's arrogant.
	You can say it's suicidal.
	Walk us through it.
	Here's some words.
	Partisan.
	Stunt.
	Charade.
	Witch hunt.
	Those are some words and phrases that apply to the Umbrella Committee as a whole.
	So, and now, you know, they've made public, again, flouting all rules, flouting all correct approaches to go and make this defeat a public, haven't served it, nothing.
	They're going to make it public because all they care about is attacking President Trump, attacking MAGA, attacking you, America First listeners.
	They don't care about the truth.
	And the truth is that there was overwhelming widespread fraud.
	In the 2020 election.
	But that's not what they want to talk about.
	What they want to do is attack Americans and divide America.
	But we're not going to let them do that.
	We're going to continue to fight.
	We're going to continue to stand strong.
	And that's why you've got it right now.
	Real clear politics has the Senate 53 to 47.
	And that's without what I think is going to be a win in New Hampshire now that's only separated by two Between Don Balduc and Maggie Hassan, and potentially a big win in Washington, where Tiffany Smiley is gaining on Patty Murray.
	I think we realistically could have four or five huge Senate pickups, and I'm looking at maybe 50, maybe 70, 80 more pickups in the House.
	It's because the American people see what they need.
	And what they need is strength and power, and then what they want is President Trump back in the Oval Office.
	Latest, January 20, 2025.
	Alright, so you talked about the Senate races, but I think you grew up in New Jersey, but you may consider yourself a New Yorker.
	I'll leave that for you to answer.
	I'm on the streets of New York as we speak.
	We need to get our city back, I'll tell you that.
	All right, so let's focus on New York.
	Put it into context, because you are an amateur historian as well.
	You were a strategist for the Trump 2020 campaign.
	Just the sheer significance, Boris, of the governor's race in New Jersey being a toss-up, according to the polls, between a Republican, a great man like Lee Zeldin, and Kathy Hochul.
	How significant is that?
	It speaks to just how strong our movement is.
	Lee Zeldin just endorsed President Trump.
	He's now, right after, a couple days go by after the endorsement, and now He's tied with, especially tied with Kathy Hochul and gaining on her, for them to be the governor of New York.
	And that's what we need to save New York and New York City.
	We need Republican MAGA leadership, because that is the only way to save not just New York, not just New York City, but all of America.
	Because look what's happening to our cities.
	Look at Chicago.
	Look at Camden.
	Look at Newark.
	Look at Washington, D.C.
	Unsafe, crime-ridden.
	Look at Atlanta.
	Absolutely decrepit.
	We need real leadership, and that leadership can only come from MAGA.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	MAGA and America First.
	You were a true fighter after the elections for election integrity.
	You were part of the legal team investigating all the goings-on, the irregularities in Arizona and elsewhere.
	Give us some kind of sense of how you feel the next elections, how clean they're going to be.
	How much headway have the good guys made in the last 18 months?
	Head was made, but it's never enough.
	There's always, we need to keep fighting.
	We need to keep vigilant.
	We need to keep bringing to light any and all attempts at chicanery by the Democrats.
	And that is the only way we secure our elections.
	And then the end, we need same day, in-person, paper voting.
	That's what we need.
	Because, hey, listen, if Brazil can have an election and have a result in just a couple hours, so should the United States of America.
	Yeah, if a nation of more than a billion like India can have voter ID, if Mexico, can have mandatory voter ID laws.
	I think the nation that put men on the moon should be able to have voter ID done with paper ballots on the same day.
	Alright, last question is a man who's standing on the streets of New York as we speak.
	He's getting ready for the MAGA revolution in the midterms.
	What is your message, Baron?
	And please, Follow him everywhere, BorisEP.com, BorisEPBoris underscore Epstein on Instagram and elsewhere.
	What is your message to those in states like New York or California or Massachusetts or Vermont who say, yeah, I'm a patriot, I'm a conservative, but this state is gone, my vote doesn't make a difference.
	What do you say to them, Baron?
	But now every vote counts.
	Every vote counts.
	On November 8th, every vote counts.
	On November 24th, every vote is going to count.
	So go vote for Sue Kiley in New Jersey.
	Go vote for Peter Hernandez in California.
	For Lee Zeldin in New York.
	Go out for Lee Stefanik, of course, in New York.
	Go out and vote.
	Have your voices be heard.
	And when you have your voices heard, we are going to have wins and likes we've never seen before.
	Fight, fight, fight.
	Action, action, action.
	Vote, vote, vote.
	And with those steps, we'll fight with the action of voting.
	We're going to take back America.
	But it's on our shoulders.
	It's on your shoulders.
	Do not give an inch.
	Keep fighting.
	Keep working.
	We're going to have a huge day on November 8th, and we're going to march right on from there to take back the White House.
	Wow, he is almost as energized as Steve Bannon.
	Thank you, Boris.
	If you see Lee Zeldin, if you see Claudia Tenney, say hi to them.
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	Title for that one, for the Baron.
	Give me another recommendation, Eric.
	Hey, hey, hey!
	How we doing?
	Good.
	Happy Friday!
	I feel like I was just here, like, yesterday.
	Well, you were on the phone.
	I know, but I feel like I was just there.
	Let's continue that discussion about the book.
	Oh, okay.
	What else is on your radar screen important?
	We can talk about this blank check thing.
	No blank checks for you, Craig.
	I really love the Thatcher cut.
	Let's use that again.
	Okay.
	And you said you wanted to start mentioning, uh, brutal war?
	Oh, yes, we will, we will, we will.
	All right.
	Um, for Boris, you used the line, MAGA revolutions, maybe something like that, uh, on the eve of a MAGA revolution or something?
	Yes.
	Good.
	All right.
	Can you play cut 11?
	11.
	Go ahead.
	It's been back and forth with them ahead, us ahead, them ahead, back and forth.
	And the polls have been all over the place.
	I think that we're going to see one more shift back to our side in the closing days, and let me tell you why I think that.
	We're starting to see some of the good news on the economy.
	Good news on the economy.
	All right, we have another car here.
	You know the country wrestling song?
	I put a bottle to my head and pulled the trigger.
	That's what the Democrats sound like.
	Play, play, um, Come In With Maggie.
	Come In With Maggie.
	All right.
	Oh, let's do this, let's do the next Midas read, Alex.
	Okay, which one is this?
	This is, uh, The Top's Cut Off.
	Okay.
	Weak President.
	Just call it Weak President.
	Copy.
	Ready?
	Yes.
	Joe Biden is the weakest president in modern history and who knows who's pulling his strings behind the scenes.
	It all adds up to economic chaos with inflation running rampant in America in a recession the Biden regime denies.
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	All right.
	And then we've got one more we'll do next.
	Oh.
	All right.
	So do you know what?
	Where's Jeff?
	Where's he gone?
	I've only got three printouts here.
	The last one I've got is another 60 that stocks down 20, so it's called Stocks.
	Stocks are the most important thing to do.
	things for themselves self Socialists like to get people dependent on the state.
	You'll never build a great society that way.
	We were the first country to attempt and to succeed in rolling back the frontiers of socialism, which is the first cousin to communism.
	No one else tried it.
	We were the first to do it.
	I remember some politicians saying, we're watching you very carefully, Mrs. Thatcher, to see if you succeed.
	We did.
	I just played that because, um, because my guests looked at that clip that we hadn't showed him and just said, can we have some more of that DNA?
	The Iron Lady.
	The woman who took the UK from literal piles of trash in a winter of discontent, with the refuge piled up, with the coal miners on strike, to defeating the Argentinian junta in the Falklands.
	and along with Ronald Reagan and blesses St. John Paul II, defeating the communist threat in Eastern Europe.
	And I think it's appetite to play it, because I do believe, is there not a Thatcher Center at the Heritage Foundation?
	Jim Carrafano?
	No, there's not a Thatcher Center.
	It's the only Thatcher Center that she would allow to be named after her.
	It's the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom.
	It's the only one in the world.
	And she actually provided the initial endowment.
	But being a conservative, she said, I will give you X amount if you raise 10X.
	Oh my gosh, we miss Baroness Margaret Thatcher.
	We're talking to the Vice President of the Heritage Foundation, the conservative mothership in America.
	He's the Vice President for National Security and for Foreign Policy.
	You need to be a member, heritage.org.
	You were very gracious to come on the phone when news broke of your ninth publication of your Military Power book.
	What's the correct title?
	It's the U.S.
	Index of Military Strength.
	U.S.
	Index of Military Strength.
	And a ninth copy, ninth year.
	Ninth edition.
	And the big breaking news was, this is the first time in the nine years that you have... That the entire U.S.
	military was rated as weakest.
	It was the lowest rating that we've ever delivered in nine years.
	And just so you understand the background of this, the reason why we did this is this great frustration.
	Because every administration comes in, they have a bottom-up review, or a quaternary defense review, or a defense review, whatever.
	And actually, a member of Congress came to me and said, well, how do I know how we're doing?
	Right?
	And the problem is you couldn't even look at two of these things and walk from one to the other because they're apples and oranges because every administration, in a sense, would just move the baseline around to tell whatever message they wanted to.
	So what we did is we actually came up with a way to do this, to objectively measure the U.S.
	military every year.
	So you actually got like a report card based on a standard that didn't change.
	The funny thing is when we went to do this, somebody said, do this.
	And I said, well, certainly somebody must have tried this before.
	So the only thing I could find was there was a RAND report.
	And RAND said, hey, this would be a really good thing.
	They gave RAND like a million dollars.
	And for a million dollars, they came back with a report and said, hey, this would be a really good thing.
	And if you give us like $10 million more, maybe we'll try to do it, right?
	And we've done it.
	And we've done it consistently for nine years.
	It is not only the most authoritative, unclassified assessment of U.S. military in the world, running like 500 pages, thousands of footnotes.
	You cannot actually go to the Pentagon and find somebody in the Pentagon who could say, oh, well, here's the Pentagon version of this.
	It doesn't exist.
	This is the only, this is unmatched anywhere in the world.
	Countries don't have intelligence services that provide as good an analysis of U.S. military capability as we do.
	Yeah.
	As somebody who worked for a year at the RAND Corporation, I can tell you somebody may have suggested it at the RAND Corporation.
	But there is no way on God's green earth they would have greenlit it.
	Because RAND, unlike you guys, is an FFRDC, is a federally funded research center.
	So the idea that they could question mark an administration's policies and then get money from the Pentagon, it ain't happening.
	But I'm glad you're doing it.
	Everybody needs to read it.
	You can download it for free at Heritage.org.
	You can follow Jim at J.J.
	Carrafano on Twitter.
	Give us the thumbnail.
	Why, for the first time in nine years?
	Because you guys don't do politics.
	You do policy.
	What are the things that have made us weak?
	So, when you look at a military, and you know this because you've worked with the military forever, it's not just about what you bring to the table.
	It's just like the NFL.
	It's not just counting beans.
	Right.
	It's what the other guy brings to the table and then where you're playing the game.
	So you have friends, you have allies.
	How difficult is it to operate?
	And we evaluate all those things.
	So we contextualize U.S.
	military capability.
	And one of the things that one of the baselines we look at is to define a sufficient military is we have to have a military that can do two things at one time.
	Two major conflicts.
	It just makes sense, right?
	Because if you get involved in something, then all your other enemies say, oh, America's back this time.
	We can do something else, right?
	And so for today, we're deeply involved in Ukraine.
	We're not fighting, but we're providing logistical support and ammunition, and we have forward-deployed forces to deter the Russians.
	If something happened in Taiwan, could you operate in both places?
	So the problem is, one is, the military actually got better under Trump.
	And the reason for that is Trump came in and he stopped the bleeding from Obama by focusing on the most critical thing up front, which is training and readiness.
	But the problem with that is, with training and readiness, is as soon as you stop, you go right back.
	It's like an athlete, if he doesn't work out after the season's over.
	And training and readiness is so crucial.
	The F-35 is the finest fighter aircraft in the world, without parallel.
	If it doesn't have a trained pilot, it's just a thing flying in the sky that could get it shot down as easily as a 747.
	All that went away, and so immediately the scores started to climb.
	Inflation is at like 8%, 9%.
	Actually, Biden hasn't had a defense budget, hasn't produced a defense budget.
	So that's actually a cut.
	It's like an 8% or 9% cut.
	So how can...
	I mean, there's a reason we have the federal government.
	Originally, it was only meant to be for interstate commerce and defense and foreign affairs.
	How do you not have a defense budget two years in?
	Well, and how do you spend literally trillions of dollars in unprogrammed spending?
	Inflation Reduction Act, infrastructure thing, COVID thing, right?
	You add all that up, that's several trillion dollars.
	And not a nickel in there is for defense.
	And then, of course, the impact of inflation is that you're actually losing defense funding because of the 10% inflation.
	Right.
	And this is while we're actively supporting operations in Ukraine.
	China is building out its military every day.
	Iran is as dangerous as ever.
	Russia, OK, maybe it was a paper tiger, but if Putin survives, It's going to be just like Germany's defeat after World War I. The first thing that Germany started to do is, how can we rebuild and come back better next time?
	So Russia's dangerous.
	Iran's dangerous.
	North Korea is probably tested nuclear weapon by Thanksgiving.
	China is getting more dangerous.
	And we are basically funding important things like drag queen shows on bases.
	Hang on, hang on.
	We do have the gender pronoun training in the Navy, Jim.
	Yeah, right.
	The important stuff.
	And not even just in the military, you know, the State Department, they just put $20,000 to fund drag queen shows in Ecuador.
	That'll go down.
	That's what your tax dollars are going for.
	Not buying uniforms and ammunition, not your children volunteering for military service and going, and we will find money that if your daughter needs an abortion, you know, we'll pay her travel so she can go get an abortion, but we can't give her body armor or training.
	Or ammunition.
	It's an outrage.
	It is the Index of Military Power.
	Download it now at Heritage.org.
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	Writing.
	We usually commission, every year we commission topical essays, and those are external authors.
	Okay.
	But the actual data itself, it's all done in-house.
	It's like 30 people that work on this thing.
	I wonder what it actually costs to produce this thing.
	It's an interesting-- One year the Air Force came back and they said, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	We're in worse shape than you guys think.
	What?
	No, I'm serious.
	And so they actually said, you have to look at this data and this data.
	And we're like, oh, well, thank you very much.
	Is that because you had very good relations with somebody specific?
	No, no.
	It's just the Air Force said, you know.
	What did you say, Alex?
	No, I said I'll be running back over there.
	It's because the Air Force found out that people were paying attention to the index.
	And this was under Trump, and they wanted more money.
	So they said, we need a highlighter.
	Was there something specific?
	Was it readiness?
	Or what was it for them?
	It was training hours.
	But that's the other thing.
	First of all, we only measure what you can measure.
	Right?
	So it's not like Freedom House.
	We're all... Subjective.
	Very subjective.
	Or like the Corruption Index, where we do a survey.
	Right.
	Do you feel like you're corrupt, you know?
	And we measure the same.
	We look at the same factors year in and year out.
	It's actually super cool.
	Honestly, I didn't think we could do it.
	You couldn't think of what?
	No, I mean, I knew we could.
	It was actually Duncan Hunter, Jr., the younger one.
	He was the guy that came to us first, because it was right in the middle of the QDR.
	And he goes, here I have a QDR.
	And I go, what in this pays for what?
	Can you explain to me that?
	And I said, we can try.
	So we actually broke down, aligned the defense budget with, you know, so you could actually see, well, this is what goes for what.
	And then, actually, as Jim DeMint said, you know, he said, well, you know, we should do a defense index.
	And I'm going like, yeah, I can do that, because we'd already done this.
	And actually, Dakota did it all.
	I just gave them the baseline assumptions.
	I said, two MRC scenario.
	The pacing items are Europe, Middle East, Indo-Pacific.
	You have to look at the Russians, the Chinese, the Iranians, and North Koreans.
	And you can only use open source data.
	Everything has to be standardized.
	You have to look at threats, capabilities, and operating environment.
	And then you have to look at training, readiness, capabilities, modernization, and boom. - You're not.
	You don't do any, like, government projects, do you?
	No.
	We don't take any government money.
	We don't take any government money from any government.
	It's like this, you know, CSIS, they would do these big, you know, studies for the QDR, and the government's paying for it.
	Or they run these, you know, they do these national defense panels that assess this, but the government's paying for that.
	Government doesn't pay us any money for this.
	What about the Brits?
	What a mess.
	I saw Neil on the fox.
	He's, yeah, he's...
	I was...
	Constitution, America first.
	Yeah, I know I'm an immigrant, okay, but I know things as well.
	I may not have been born here.
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	You mentioned Iran.
	I just mentioned Ukraine, Jim.
	We talked to Jim Carafano, Vice President of Heritage.
	Can you just, for the sake of those who aren't national security wonks like us, just walk us through this thing that Russia is using Iranian drones to bomb civilians in Ukraine.
	Can you explain how that happens?
	Well, I'll give you one better.
	Go ahead.
	How did those drones get to Russia?
	Get to Russia.
	And the answer is they were put on commercial Iranian airlines and they were flown through airports.
	Some of them like Heathrow.
	To Russia.
	So there's a big hole in the sanctions regime here.
	We're letting the Iranian commercial airlines funnel weapons to Russia.
	And the other reporting, which is kind of mind-boggling, is there are Iranians in Ukraine operating these drones, and some of them have already been killed, which essentially means Ukraine is a party to the conflict.
	And every single sanction that we're committing to the Russians that should be committed to the Ukrainians.
	So explain why Iran...
	is a party.
	Why are they giving deadly drones to Russia?
	Right.
	And sending personnel to Ukraine?
	So first of all, people say, well, we're giving to Ukraine.
	Well, there's a big difference.
	So for example, we fund a lot of things.
	The Ukrainians cannot use, for example, foreign aid to pay the soldiers to fight.
	They can pay for civilian people to go to their jobs, but the Ukrainians have to pay the Ukrainian military.
	So the West is not doing anything which makes it a party to the conflict, and what that means is you are directly involved in combat operations in the country, and we're not.
	We're sharing intel, we're having them trade, we're giving them stuff.
	That's not a party to the conflict.
	Participating, it's like a fan in the stands, right?
	You're supporting the team, you bought a sweatshirt, you buy popcorn.
	But you're not on the pitch.
	Like the Iranians.
	Right, you're not playing in the game.
	Only the people on the field that are actually playing in the game are playing in the game.
	So you're not a party to the conflict.
	Ukraine essentially has made itself a party to the conflict.
	No, Iran.
	Iran, sorry.
	And the question is why?
	And you're right, it's like, what the hell do the Iranians own the Russians?
	You know, what are they getting out of this?
	And somebody pointed out to me, well, they do owe the Russians many billions of dollars for the nuclear stuff that the Russians have built in Iran.
	So maybe they're paying off their debt or something.
	This is bad for the Iranians.
	I mean, dude, you are taking a lot of risk and gaining a lot of animosity.
	And what are the Russians going to do for you in exchange?
	Because they're not going to make your life better, that's for sure.
	Let's talk about Iran for a second.
	I had some guests on my show for Newsmax.
	Sunday night, 7pm guys, Newsmax, the Gorka Reality Check.
	Iranians who say this time it's different.
	Are you hearing things to that effect that the number of protests, the geographical dispersion, that this is qualitatively a big deal?
	Yeah, this is bigger than the Green Revolution.
	So it's hundreds of cities, 20,000 people incarcerated, hundreds killed.
	And it's not just the ethnic minorities.
	It's all over, every ethnicity, every other country.
	So there's no question it's different.
	So Adam Milstein and I just wrote a piece on this.
	It's on the Tribune Wire.
	But what this makes demonstrably proven is the Iranian revolution has failed.
	The Iran people do not want the Iranian regime.
	They can talk about we have elections and everything else, but the Iran people, they're over this.
	The experiment has failed.
	So it's a question of when.
	And when is when the soldiers stop shooting on the... Right.
	It's always the same.
	We don't know what that day is.
	It's always the same.
	It's when the military, it's when the police say, I'm not doing it and here's my gun.
	He's the Vice President of the Heritage Foundation.
	It is brand new, just been published.
	The Index of Military Power.
	Get it at heritage.org.
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	There are two kinds of sheriff in America.
	Those who eschew the limelight and there are others who Who are prepared to stand in the limelight and are actually good at what they do.
	Here is one of them from Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd.
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	I would highly suggest that if a looter breaks into your home, comes into your home while you're there to steal stuff, That you take your gun and you shoot him.
	You shoot him so that he looks like grated cheese.
	Because you know what?
	That's one looter that won't break into anyone else's home and take advantage of them when they're the most vulnerable and the most weak.
	Use your gun to defend yourself and your property until that criminal looks like grated cheese.
	He started working for the Polk County Sheriff's Office as a dispatcher in 1972.
	At the age of 27, he attained the rank of captain, was elected to the office of sheriff in 2005, and he served on President Trump's Coordinating Council on Juvenile Justice.
	Welcome to America First, Sheriff Judd.
	Sebastian, it's my honor to be with you today.
	How are you doing?
	I'm doing very well.
	I want to talk to you about the Second Amendment and that superb little press conference you gave.
	But first, I've got to ask you, maybe you've got a theory.
	I see two types of sheriff.
	Those who are comfortable with the media and who speak truthfully to the media, and then others who hide.
	Why is that?
	Shouldn't all sheriffs, if they're elected, be prepared to talk out in front of the public?
	Well, I believe that they should.
	And I don't know why they don't.
	You know, when we are elected, we work for the community.
	We work for the public.
	And the only way to successfully communicate with them is social media, radio, television, and newspaper.
	And I do that every day.
	I do interviews every day because the people have a right to know what their sheriff's doing, what he's thinking, or what she's thinking.
	And I've In my fifth term, and I've not had any serious opposition and had no opposition after my fifth term.
	So I think when you do what the public expects you to do, the way they expect you to do it, you keep the public informed that you're working for them and this is what you're doing to keep them safe.
	They respond in kind.
	I have to say, let's talk about your comments that we played.
	I've just got back from a series of speaking engagements for our Midterm Battleground Speakers Tour.
	We were in Florida, and one of our audience members asked, what do we do with the situation, the rampant crime in America?
	And I said, the next line sounds funny, but it's not a joke.
	Do what I do.
	I'm permitted to carry a weapon in Virginia, in Washington, in Maryland, and I always carry a gun because it's too heavy to carry a law enforcement officer.
	What should be the right relationship between law enforcement and the armed citizenry of America?
	Shouldn't it be a healthy relationship that if we have no criminal record, if we know how to carry and use a gun, that's good for you as well, isn't it?
	Sebastian, it is, and that's the way it is in my county.
	Do you know crime here is at a 50-year low?
	Wow.
	And crime in Florida is lower than most every other state in the Union, and our crime in our county, where my jurisdiction, primary jurisdiction is, is half of our state crime.
	And I tell my folks, carry a concealed firearm, get your permit, and I want you to carry that gun to protect yourself and others.
	You know the laws.
	We'll teach you the laws.
	We want to make sure you follow the laws.
	But when you have a major event in your life where you need a cop, you've got to dial 9-1-1.
	Someone's got to answer the phone, then they've got to dispatch the car, and then the car's got to arrive.
	It's too late.
	You've got to look out for yourself until we can get there.
	And if somebody's threatening your life, if it's a life or death decision, you have to look out for you until we arrive.
	And we're not going to be there at the moment in time to save your life.
	You're gonna have to look out for yourself.
	A member of my team who works for us out of Florida was in the eye of the hurricane and he texted me saying the lights were out, there were noises outside for hours, no power, no nothing, and he said, Seb, I'm buying a gun and you gotta teach me how to shoot.
	It's a little bit late!
	When you're worried and the power's out, so guys, listen to the sheriff, get the license, get trained and carry that weapon.
	Last question to you, Sheriff Judd, and thank you for joining us today from Polk County.
	You're in a good position.
	You've gone from dispatcher all the way up to sheriff.
	You're in a safe, safe county.
	What is your message to your fellow law enforcement officers across the country?
	who are in Democrat-controlled districts where they have no support from the mayor, you know, NYPD, Chicago, and Philly, and who are feeling like it's time to give up.
	What do you say to your brothers in blue?
	Well, I tell the law enforcement leaders, whether it's police chiefs or sheriffs, those areas are starving for leadership.
	The people want to be safe.
	I don't care if you're a registered Democrat, a registered Republican, an Independent, or not registered.
	You want to be safe, and you want to feel safe.
	And if you're not, you don't thrive, your business doesn't thrive, your community doesn't thrive.
	So show professional leadership.
	Don't kowtow.
	Don't bow down to this wokeism and You've got to stand up for what's right, and you've got to stand up for the vast majority of your community.
	Keep in mind, that woke that is dying out, by the way, that's losing its energy, is a fraction of a percent of America.
	Just because they're loud doesn't mean they're right.
	So be a leader and you'll see how much of the community, Democrats, Republicans, Independents and non-registers will say, yes Sheriff, yes Chief, that's the kind of leadership we want.
	We want to be safe.
	Courage is contagious and we applaud you for speaking the truth.
	Thank you for your service.
	Sheriff Grady, Judge Polk County, Florida, you heard the man.
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	When I heard the clip that you're just about to see, I thought it was a joke.
	I thought this woman would have been fired if it was for real.
	I guess not.
	MSNBC's Katie Turr, this is the lady who has a transgender father who wears a skirt.
	And this is their response to 900,000 babies being aborted in America every year.
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	There is a pretty simple solution to stopping 99% of all abortions, and it's not outlawing the medical procedure.
	Instead, it's for men to ejaculate responsibly.
	You heard me, and I'll say it again.
	She argues the vast majority of all abortions would stop if men took responsibility for where and when they ejaculate.
	Joining me now is the author of the Just Out book, Ejaculate Responsibly.
	Yeah, you heard that.
	I'm not a doctor.
	I'm a PhD in political science, but maybe somebody else can help me out here.
	who Who gets pregnant when you have sex?
	Does the man ever get pregnant?
	Eric, does the man ever get pregnant?
	Despite what the left says these days, no.
	Jeff, does the man ever get pregnant?
	Well that one guy in DC did, remember?
	At the private school we heard about this week.
	But typically the answer would be no.
	No.
	Guy.
	I never heard man will be able to get pregnant.
	Alex.
	Redacted no.
	Redacted no.
	Okay, so if it's the woman who can get pregnant...
	Wouldn't it be smarter for the woman to control her body than to try and kill another one?
	I mean, call me crazy, but if it's the woman that has to carry the baby, maybe it's the woman who shouldn't, I don't know, maybe have sex?
	Call me crazy, but I think that's how it works, birds and the bees.
	All right, enough of crazy women like Katie Turr.
	Let's talk about men and the assault on manhood with an expert on the warriors of yore.
	None other than Victor Davis Hanson for the whole hour on The Manhood Hour.
	Stay on this channel. Stay on this channel.
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	We have been waiting a very long time for our very special guest.
	The perfect guest for our manhood hour.
	An individual who has mapped for us what it meant at the beginning of our civilization.
	To be a warrior.
	How those men fought, and has also mapped for us how Americans fought in World War II and beyond.
	He is Stanford University's Victor Davis Hanson, professor of strategy, military history, anything that really matters in the classical age.
	He is the author most recently of The Case for Trump and the Dying Citizen, which just now has come out in paperback.
	Please, if you haven't read it, you have no excuse today.
	VictorDavisHanson.com is the website, also the podcast.
	Welcome to our special Manhood Hour, Professor Hansen. - Thank you for having me. - All right, so I can't think of a better guest to have, given what you've written about ancient Rome, about the warrior spirit, the two world wars dedicated to your relatives, so seminal to your life, who gave theirs the two world wars dedicated to your relatives, so seminal to your life, who Let's start at the beginning.
	I just have a handful of questions.
	The first one is, is masculinity, is the concept of manhood in trouble in Western civilization today?
	Yeah, I think it is.
	I mean, we always hear it now with this adjective, toxic, toxic masculinity.
	It's never just masculinity.
	It's so, it's contrary to a lot of special interest groups and it's been manipulated and warped as sort of the driving impulse behind capitalism and Western dominance, etc, etc.
	So, but remember, Seb, all of the criticisms of masculinity come from an elite class.
	And how serious?
	What is the magnitude of that assault?
	as well.
	It doesn't come from the masses of any race or particular, even gender.
	So everybody understands that traditionally masculinity was a very positive and necessary element of civilization.
	And how serious, what is the magnitude of that assault to somebody who understood through time the role that men have had in from antiquity to modern Western civilization?
	And how serious is the assault, Professor?
	Well, if you do this, if you assault the idea of masculinity for 20, 30 years, as we have been doing in the schools, and you suggest that men are capable always of sexual harassment, sexual assault, white men in particular exercise dualities of privilege, white men in particular exercise dualities of privilege, then what you do is you've disconnected an entire demographic from mainstream activity.
	And And what I'm really worried about is that The fentanyl crisis, this higher incidence of male suicide, especially failure to, I guess we would call it almost failure to advance, prolonged adolescence.
	Tocqueville warned us about that.
	So all of us in our families have this phenomenon that we've never experienced before of nephews or children or friends that are late 20s, males, they date, but they don't form lasting bonds, they don't marry, they don't buy a home, they don't have children.
	And they're not, they're disconnected.
	They're either prolonged adolescence or, or, and these are, this is the conservative manifestation.
	But on the liberal manifestation, you see the pajama boy stereotype.
	These very elite, young, urban, metrosexuals who are not engaging in the body politic.
	They're not buying a home, they're not confident, they're not Getting married, they're not having two or three children, they're not coaching Little League, they're not being examples.
	And then it's been disastrous in the African American community as well.
	Now, you have a unique... You stand astride two very different cultures.
	So you witness, you know, this diminution of masculinity, I'm sure, where you teach at Stanford, at one of the most elite educational institutions in the world.
	But with your life outside of the ivory towers, as a farmer, as a man who's lived all his life in a rural constituency, Is it also under assault there where people actually have to work by the sweat of their brow or is it in the metropolises that we have to be concerned?
	Well it's theoretically or ideologically in the metropolises where people are damning the abstraction of physical manliness but in the here and now What's happened is that we created, especially with the onset of globalization, this attitude, mentality, that if you didn't get a BA or if you didn't go to college, then you were a loser in the global rat race.
	And that if you lost your job in Youngstown, Ohio, I think John Kerry or Joe Biden suggested you follow the frackers or you go code.
	But you were a loser, so to speak.
	Even Kerry said that about, you know, don't, if you don't go to college, you're going to end up in Iraq, if you remember in the 2004 campaign.
	So that's had a deleterious effect as well, because in real wages, and I tried to show that in The Dying Citizen, the middle class has been losing, at least up until 2017, we had a brief four-year resurgence under Trump.
	But again, wages are being eaten up faster than income advances under Biden.
	So And then you know what's so ironic is that COVID taught us, especially the lockdowns, that we can't exist without men.
	These are men that pump our sewers out, they climb up in the middle of the night into the attic to rewire a building, they go underground to make sure The sewage is working.
	They bring in your granite counters if you're a wealthy person in Manhattan.
	They bring in your stainless steel refrigerator.
	They do all of the things that we count on at the precise time we told them they're replaceable or they're just ancillary.
	They're not essential to who we are, but they are.
	And I think that would be very wise for us to tell young people.
	That it's not just you don't have to go to college, but that there is an innate nobility, even a greater nobility, in using your hands or your muscles.
	Isn't it what Shakespeare called the rude mechanicals, Professor?
	The people that actually make society function?
	Yeah, it is.
	And one of the things about Hellenic culture, although there was certainly elite disparagement of the working basanoic classes, they call them, but there was this idea of duality, that you had to be physical and mental.
	The Olympic Games were sort of, you know, there was poetry at the Olympic Games, but there was also chariot racing.
	Or javelin throwing.
	And so the ideal Hellenic hero was always somebody who used his brains like Odysseus, but was a was a accomplished warrior.
	But somehow I think we've missed that.
	And we either call somebody a jock, or we call someone a nerd, but we don't try to combine those elements of masculinity and say that everybody should be multidimensional and have both aspects.
	And if you had to choose, which of the sources, the focal points of the assault is most damaging?
	Is it academe?
	Is it wokeness?
	Is it the assault on faith?
	The assault on family?
	Is it third, fourth wave feminism?
	What is the epicenter, the driving force of the assault?
	If you had to choose one?
	If I have to choose one, I suppose it is the university.
	That's where all bad ideas start.
	And they start with the premise that their leisure and their affluence that allows them to have a pretty soft, critical life of other people is basically the result of the work of men from Greece through the Roman period through the Renaissance to the Enlightenment.
	to America.
	And so they target particular men that they hate.
	They hate the founders, cannot stand the founders.
	They cannot stand Jesus Christ.
	They cannot stand Socrates.
	So in their way of thinking, even though they enjoy the elements, they take it for granted of market capitalism, reason, individual freedom, constitutional government, scientific inquiry, divorce from superstition.
	That's what made them who they are.
	They hate the people who gave them that and for some reason they focus on men.
	Men, men, men did it.
	And each group then says, Well, I want to live in the United States.
	I'm risking my life to come across the border, or I'm a feminist or corporate mover and shaker, but I don't like these white men who created this society in which I indulge in, and that's what's so strange about it.
	And it's so strange that in this Headlong rush for equity.
	I don't see those campaigning for equity in oil-drig, underwater, you know, welders, or the sewer workers.
	There seems to be a lack of female equity in jobs that require a certain masculine robustness.
	It is now out, freshly out, in paperback.
	It is the dying citizen.
	We are speaking to Professor Victor Davis-Hanson.
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	There are so many books, Professor, that deal with the subject of this particular podcast that we could mention, whether it's The Second World Wars, whether it's Who Killed Homer, Father of Us All, The Dying Citizen, your most recent.
	But I think maybe it was in Who Killed Homer.
	There's a phrase, and correct me if I'm misquoting you, you talked about academe being the center of this assault on masculinity.
	Therapeutic education, what was the phrase that you used?
	We talked about the tragic, John Heath and I, my co-author, we talked about the tragic view versus the therapeutic.
	The therapeutic view is that all pathologies or disappointments in our collective lives are due to The inability to alter human nature because we didn't have enough interest in ideology or proper training of the mind or conditioning or abusing us of our pre-civilizational devotion to religion.
	And so what the purpose of education is not to give you the skills to make empirical quest on your own and then find whatever political view that you harbor on your own, but it was to be deductive, not inductive.
	Here is the preselected point where we want to get you, and all of our coursework will be viewed and warped and adapted to that purpose.
	And we're going to leave, you're going to leave the university a hard progressive leftist, and that's not biased.
	Because the other forces in society as we interpret them, the corporation, the family, your history, your religion are reactionary.
	So we have to balance them by being on balance.
	And that's pretty much how academic life has proceeded, and central to that is the number one enemy, the number one enemy of progressivism, and it's the white White, male, heterosexual, religious, bogeyman.
	He is attributed all of his sins.
	And like you say, there's never any good attributed to him.
	And we can speak of him in the collective as if he represents 150 million Americans or 130 million Americans.
	And we can attribute pathologies to all of them in the collective, but we can't do the same to other groups.
	So if you go on to MSNBC, you can hear Joy Reid talking about white people or white men in particular, but she would never use that collective stereotype generalization toward blacks or Latinos or gay, any other group.
	So I think finally, there's a reaction growing that Especially the inability to distinguish class because we, I see it, you know, I see today there's somebody under my house putting ducting in.
	It's a terrible job.
	I crawled under there and we were talking.
	It's just awful.
	I go under my house a lot and he's out there, you know, in a very dirty job.
	And when I go to Stanford University, what is he?
	Is he just a white male?
	Is that what he's reduced to, rather than a heroic guy with muscles who's using his brain to figure out how to map out a new ducting system while being filthy dirty with, you know, black widows and occasional rats and stuff he's dealing with?
	So that's what gets me when very wealthy, wealthy, wealthy, privileged whites Then denigrate white males without any distinction of their class.
	As they're sitting in a Starbucks drinking their venti latte, yes, indeed.
	I'm a little trepidatious asking the next question, which is perhaps one of the most interesting that we ask our guests, because it would be the subject of a 13-week postgraduate course with you, Professor, I'm sure.
	What is it to be a man?
	Let me just make it as succinct as possible.
	Perhaps you could share with us Hellenic conceptualizations of what are the non-negotiable aspects of being a true man.
	Well, first of all, there's certain innate responsibilities.
	And that is, I think all of us, to the degree you can, perpetuate the species.
	And that means marrying.
	And if you can have children, you do.
	And you protect your family.
	And whether you like it or not, the male's role is to protect the family first and foremost.
	So if you're in your home and you hear a noise at night, you don't have your wife go out there while you stay in bed.
	Or if your children come home from school and they say they've been attacked on the bus, then you are the one that goes and investigates that.
	So that's the first primary.
	Without security for the family, there's nothing.
	And that's the male's point of view.
	And then the second thing I think is very important is that Certain people have to speak up when the majority is wrong or when there's consensus, and that requires punishment or victimization or attacks on you, and it's very important for an element of masculinity.
	The heroic, tragic view is that no one's going to speak up, but I'm a man, and it's my duty to do what's right.
	And that was the essential of all Sophoclean plays.
	In fact, it wasn't even necessarily male at some times.
	What was brilliant about Sophocles, he transformed the male instinct to do that in an Ajax and put it in Antigone.
	And you see it in the Western with Shane or High Noon.
	Somebody has to stand up and stand down the posse.
	Somebody has to deal with Lee Marvin and the man who shot Liberty Valance.
	Somebody has to come in out of nowhere and deal with them with the bullies and Shane.
	And usually that's a solitary man.
	And that's the ideal that no matter what Your own circumstances.
	Somebody has to stand up and take the punishment for being right.
	And how important is it that there's that added inject that it is the vulnerable who are most deserving of that loaner's support, the individuals who have nobody else to protect them?
	Well, they count on it and they count that there's certain, a very rare number of people in society who are willing, really, to wreck their own lives or take an undue amount of criticism or injury for the principle.
	And that is a masculine principle.
	It's not just that you're trying to help other people, but that trying to help other people at your expense is a code.
	And that makes you a male in some ways.
	It doesn't mean that women can't do it, but often the skills required to do it Inevitably boil down to not just verbal, but physical.
	And then you pose as a role model for other young men or your own children if you're willing to do that.
	And it's not necessarily an easy thing to do.
	And I always ask myself, you know, when I'm in a service station a mile away and I see two people fighting over a gas hose, and frequently now, and they're covered with gang tattoos, And one person is picking on a smaller person.
	To what degree is it my job to go over there and say, please stop that?
	They usually try to do it, but that's what our society used to be like.
	And you can see after World War II, when we brought back 12 million veterans, 4 million of them who had been overseas in combat, or at least in the theater of war, you had a lot of those people training a lot of people.
	And it was a very different society than today.
	You can read about them in his book, The Second World Wars.
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	I think I know the answer to some of these, or some of the answers to this next question, given your dedication and the actual prologue to your book, The Second World Wars.
	But please share with our millions of listeners across the country, Professor, what have been some of your influences in terms of your understanding of manhood, whether it's literary characters or whether it's members of your family or a football coach, Where did you get most of your significant input?
	Well, I think everybody looks toward their father, and I had a physically imposing father, 6'4", 220 pounds, Swedish-American, who had been on a B-29 for 40 missions in combat and almost was killed two or three times, highly decorated.
	He never really, I mean, he was very skilled.
	He both farmed and he became a community college administrator, but he never quite fit within the confines of civilized, quiet, peacetime society, at least.
	As he had excelled in wartime because the rules of the game were a little different.
	So he's a little bit like that lecture you gave, I think, for Hillsdale, the Ajax who helps save civilization but then is not wanted by the civilization he saved?
	He was.
	He was always somebody, when he was an administrator, when somebody was unduly fired, It should have gone through the chain of human resources command.
	He went straight to my dad, who was, I think, number three in the community college.
	And then my dad took it on him to fight for that guy.
	And then the president would say, that's not your role.
	And then my dad would get in an argument.
	Or if we would go as a family in a station wagon and we were on the way to the coast and We were going down the road, and there was somebody on the side of the road slapping his wife or girlfriend, and everybody was going by.
	It would be my dad who forced us all to go over the side of the road, and then he would intervene.
	And he did that, and it was exhausting, but it was also remarkable.
	And then in literature, as a classicist, I kind of specialize in the plays of Greek tragedy, and there were a lot of these figures.
	That seems to be the sole emphasis of Sophocles, to find these kind of aristocratic, old-type style that don't fit into a modern democratic society, because they have values they won't compromise, even to their own injury.
	But those values are necessary to protect weaker people, Philatides, Ajax, even Oedipus at the end.
	And then the John Ford Western genre was very important, Sam Peckinpah and kind of a more violent manifestation of it.
	But that was key to the Western too, that the men of the West who had conquered this very violent land.
	They had a set of skill sets that were essential for keeping and preserving civilization, But the very process of using them made them alienated or ostracized from civilization.
	And as a man of letters, I mean, it struck me.
	I think we have fathers who are very, very, very similar.
	My father also had to intervene if he saw injustice, and he was my input.
	But when we had a seal on the show, the author of the incredibly successful Terminal List series, Jack Carr, I asked him, and I expected father, football coach, or something, and he said, oh no, the heroes of literature with the greatest impact on him.
	So, it doesn't have to be a living individual, it can indeed be a fictional character.
	It doesn't have to.
	You can see them in Conrad novels, you can see them, as I said, in the Iliad, you can see them in the Odyssey, many-minded Odysseus, you can see it in Renaissance literature, you can see it in Hemingway and Steinbeck and Thomas Wolfe, but there's a commonality to that hero.
	And that hero takes it upon himself to do particular things that the majority want to happen, but they don't want to themselves be part of that, because to be part of it goes against consensus, or it entails danger, or it requires a crudity that's antithetical to their version of polite society.
	And so they I think it's that famous line at the end.
	of the Magnificent Seven, when the village elder says, you know, well, we're going to miss you, and he says, I don't, we appreciate what you do, and he said, I think you're going to be very happy when we leave.
	Yes, that need in crisis, and then thank you very much, we're happy now.
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	I was on a stage just a few days ago with Dennis Prager.
	I'm a Roman Catholic, born and bred, but I call Dennis Prager my rabbi, one of the wisest individuals I know.
	And he said something that, it's obvious, but his succinct expression of it was really what hit me.
	If we do not If we do not explain our values to the next generation, then we lose the civilization we have been built.
	It is tautologous, but it bears so much repeating today.
	Would you share with us what you think the key values are?
	What are the things we must teach young men and young boys today in America, Professor?
	I think they have to understand that we are an equal opportunity society, and we're not a mandated equality of results society.
	That's a big existential difference throughout history.
	One society says the government is going to appoint Guardians, we're going to insist that we all become the same on the back end.
	And the very rare or other types saying we're going to try to level the playing field so that people can succeed or fail on their own.
	And then the individual can come in who's successful and say, you know what, my cousin needs help or my community needs help.
	And we'll have incentives, religious, communitarian, whatever to, to, to help that philanthropy.
	But that's the greatest thing I think that all of us understand that Somebody has to speak out against this invasive, insidious, incremental growth of the government to mandate how we live for some unattainable dream of making us all equal and uniform as one faceless, anonymous collective.
	And so I think that's the greatest challenge that all of us are facing.
	And it's the one pathology that ties all our worries about the growth in government or surveillance or what's happening to the FBI or what the Pentagon generals are saying.
	All of these things are tied with this woke ideology, and that's what woke ideology is.
	That any perceptible inequality must be attributable to culpability, and only a few have the skills to identify it and rectify it, and we have to entrust our freedom, our power, Our choices to that group and give them unlimited powers to do what they call the morally superior solution.
	And it's scary because we know in history where that leads to.
	We do, we do.
	And beneath that more philosophical level of opportunity vice equity, if we're talking to young boys, what would be the thing that we would have to emphasize the most?
	Is it some kind of Spot and ruggedness, the capacity... I would say don't lose your 20s.
	Do not lose your 20s.
	Do not buy into the myth that you're going to go to school for eight years, college for eight years, that you're going to take all this loan out, that you're not going to get married to your 35, that you're going to live with your parents to your 24.
	When you graduate from high school, you're a an adult and if you want to go to college and go for four years, do not go any longer.
	If you want to get a professional degree after that, go for three years or four.
	Don't take a 12-year PhD course.
	Do not think it's normal to get married at 36.
	Do not think it's normal to have two or three children out of wedlock.
	So, your 20s are precious and that's when the time is very essential that you get on the road to manhood and adulthood.
	Very soon.
	We really institutionalize prolonged adolescence.
	I don't think I shared this story with you and if you'll indulge me since you are the senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
	My son recently graduated from Stanford.
	He fell in love with Stanford when he visited.
	He didn't tell us, his parents, that he wanted to go nowhere else.
	He didn't get in the first try because his coach screwed up on the crew team.
	So he just decided He told us, I'm going to travel the world and I'm going to work.
	He worked in Africa.
	He worked in Belize.
	He worked in Australia.
	Then he applied again and he aced it and he got in and he became a member of the D1 crew team.
	And I met his coach about a year later, professor, and the coach pulled me aside and he said, I wish every member of my team Had taken a year off to work physically like your son did.
	I presume you would share that piece of advice.
	I would.
	I think what saved me is that I had fled the farm because I thought it was drudgery in my teens and gone to college and then immediately went to graduate school.
	But then at 25, I had a PhD, but I had forgotten that grounding.
	I hadn't been home in eight years.
	For a variety of reasons the job market was bleak.
	I came back home at 25 and then from 25 to 30 I did nothing else but farm 180 acres.
	And we learned how to do things that I have learned before.
	I pruned, I built a tractor, I welded, I worked on buildings, I sprayed chemicals.
	It was manual labor, pruning, thinning crops.
	And then I went back into academia at 30 and that saved me in my way of thinking because I had been I had forgotten that side of life, the physical side.
	And you know what's funny about it is, I was never more healthy and content when I was living in a rural atmosphere, working physically every day and then at night trying to do the books or read about horticulture or viticulture or things like that.
	I had forgotten how important that was.
	So when I got back into the academic world, I made sure that under no circumstances would I ever leave the farm.
	At least I could say that I was living here, talking to people who were farming nearby, farming myself initially part-time.
	And then when I began to rent, at least walk in the field every day and work on my house.
	And be in the company of farmers and farm laborers, to be grounded.
	That's really important, I think.
	I think we've revealed something here on the manhood hour.
	Not only can he debate with you the finer points of the Melian dialogue and Thucydides, he can also teach you how to weld.
	That is what makes Professor Victor Davis Hanson unique.
	On that point, if I may, as a sidebar, would it be A great assist in America if half of the people who go to college actually went to one or two year vocational schools and actually learned to weld instead or to be car mechanics.
	Wouldn't that help our civilization professionally?
	Absolutely, especially if we focus that directive on particular areas of study in the university and I would just lump together the social sciences.
	Yeah.
	Tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of sociology majors, environmental studies majors, gender studies, race studies, all of that gobbledygook didn't exist 40 years ago in the university curriculum.
	And it doesn't lead, it's not the acquisition of knowledge, it does not sharpen your computational skills or your ability to reason or compose orally or in writing.
	It doesn't give you any skills other than To refine the art of victimization and bias and your critiques about society has not been fair to you or your group.
	So take that away and give a person the sense of accomplishment and success at becoming a master electrician or a master carpenter in his 20s or having no student debt and getting $45 an hour as a very accomplished plumber.
	I think it would give a lot of our youth a sense of accomplishment, pride, income without debt, but this idea that you go into this six-figure debt for a particular major and course of study that doesn't sharpen your skills, you leave college with very little knowledge.
	In fact, you may have lost what knowledge you had when you entered college, and you're angry.
	You're angry and you're bitter.
	And you're bitter that you don't have any money.
	You're bitter that you owe money.
	You're bitter that you don't have the skills to compete.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I think we need to really redefine colleges.
	And that would really scare colleges because they would have to become cost-efficient and not rely on the government assuming the moral hazard.
	Bitter, I would say, and also entitled, which is a very, very dangerous combination.
	We're talking to Professor Victor Davis Hanson at VD Hanson on Twitter, victorhanson.com, and also the most recent book.
	Now in paperback is The Dying Citizen.
	This is the Manhood Hour coming to you from the reliefactor.com studios just outside the insolubrious, malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	Last question for you, Professor Hanson.
	Shockingly, the Heritage Foundation, for the first time since it started publishing its annual survey of US military strength, this year, just this week, it has announced that it has graded America as weak for the first time in nine years.
	When you look at the testimony of people like Mark Milley, the wokeness in the military, the CNO doing 12-minute lectures on video to the fleet about racism in the US Navy, it does not look good for America.
	So our last question I ask all our guests is, where do you stand when it comes to the assault on manhood and masculinity?
	Are you an optimist?
	Are you a pessimist?
	Can it be salvaged?
	How does it look to you?
	Well, I think I'm optimistic because I've been given again this fortunate opportunity to live in mostly a society of muscularity in the Central Valley, a rural society.
	And so when I go to Stanford, I keep reminding myself, while these people control our communications, our finance, the real power and prestige of the country, They don't exist without these other people in the shadows.
	And these other people, by and large, are pretty sensible people.
	And in their daily lives are pretty heroic people.
	So that gives me a lot of confidence.
	But if your question is, do you have confidence in our educated, degreed, credentialed elite?
	The answer is, for the most part, none at all.
	I don't.
	I think they're responsible for most of the damage that's been done.
	And in the military, It's a multi-dimensional failure.
	We're not using the money, the $800 billion that we do give the military in a cost-efficient manner.
	If they keep saying that we need more frigates or we need better cruise missiles or our arsenal of Javelins needs to be replenished, and they do, and we want to help them, then they have to say we can't spend several hundred million dollars with this woke indoctrination program or subsidizing transgendered surgery or whatever these other agendas are that are contrary to battle efficacy.
	So that's our problem.
	We need somebody to say, we're spending everything we have to make sure that we have the best train and the best equipped people in the world.
	And we're very economical, and we're not going to leave billions of dollars of equipment anymore in a place like Afghanistan.
	Just leave it as if you're going to completely replenish it whenever we want.
	And if we have that confidence in them, then I think people would be more than willing to radically increase the defense budget.
	But when they use it for purposes that don't lead to efficiency on the battlefield, or maybe they're antithetical to that, a lot of us say, you know what?
	Until you get a chairman of the Joint Chiefs who doesn't call his Chinese counterpart to warn him about his own commander-in-chief, or until you can protect a billion-dollar embassy in Kabul, or you don't leave billions of dollars of ammunition and guns and support material on the tarmac in Kabul, then it's hard for us to be sympathetic, even though we need you.
	So it's a very disappointing time.
	I just wish the military would say, we're not going to get involved in politics.
	When we retire from the military, our four stars are not going to comment on their views on the president of the United States in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
	And we're not going to racially pigeonhole people.
	And we're going to talk about proportionality and demographics in this particular service and that particular job or task.
	And if they would do that, they would get widespread support.
	But according to the Reagan Library's recent poll, only 45 percent of America have great confidence in the military.
	It's the lowest that's ever been recorded.
	I'm going to smuggle in one last question, since you are the most preeminent and prolific author on ancient civilizations strategy in America today.
	There aren't many examples, are there professor, of civilizations long enduring if their quote unquote elites do not believe in their own civilizations?
	No, they're not.
	I mean, traditionally, because elites were the most privileged, then they had the greatest responsibility to be models of behavior.
	When people talk about the fall of the British Empire or British supremacy, you can look at that That group of Victorians, so about 1860 to 1870 to 1890 that were pretty much bankrupt.
	The Bloomsbury group is a good example of their values and they were not the values that had created this singular civilization.
	You look at our society and you look at the people leading the country now compared to 40, 50, 70 years ago.
	It's quite disappointing, especially when you look at college presidents.
	are the heads of major foundations or professional athletes, these elite role models.
	They're all whining and they're always trying to find out whether they qualify to be an oppressed group or a victimized group.
	They're always accusing other people, projecting their own insecurities and shortcomings onto other people.
	I'm afraid to say, I think it's mostly a symptom of our affluence and leisure as it has been throughout history.
	When societies are very wealthy in leisure, it's very hard to inculcate the values that created that successful formula in the first place.
	Times breed soft men, and when men are under assault anyway, ideologically, it is doubly so.
	Let's cycle through the titles this man has written, just a fraction of them, because anything with his name on the spine of the book Is worth your read.
	The latest now out in paperback this week is The Dying Citizen.
	How progressive elites, tribalism and globalization are destroying the idea of America.
	Let's just cycle through A War Like No Other.
	A classic.
	How the Athenians and Spartans fought the Peloponnesian War.
	Then we have the second World Wars.
	A stunning, stunning read.
	How the first global conflict was fought and won.
	In fact, how it was more than one war.
	And Victor Davis Hanson's The Father of Us All.
	Oh, and let's just, for good measure, he is I'm Sebastian Gawker, wherever you are.
	of a political variety, The Case for Trump.
	Victor Davis Hanson, it has been a pleasure.
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	Wherever you are, let's end, as usual, with the words of my former boss, the 45th President of the United States, in God willing, the 47th.
	We will not bend.
	We will not break.
	We will not yield.
	We will never give in.
	We will never give up.
	We will never back down.
	We will never, ever surrender.
	My fellow Americans, our movement is far from over.

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