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Sept. 20, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka
02:52:22
Jim Hanson LIVE: The rise of the NatCons
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen.
Thank you.
Hey folks, I am Jim Hansen, and I'm happy to be sitting in for Dr. G, who is shooting something amazing, which you will see in the upcoming weeks.
But listen, I wanted to go ahead and get this rolling and do what we've done the last couple times I have guest-hosted, and that is take our Rumble Chat.
And incidentally, shout out to Rumble for going public on the Stock Exchange.
They now have their own ticker symbol.
They are a thing, and they are a growing thing.
So we're happy to be streaming there, and we're happy to have the lively, rowdy, savage America First commenting crew in the Rumble chat.
So if you're not there, join.
If you are there, start picking topics for the third hour freestyle rant that I will do based on your suggestions.
So come up.
It can be pop culture.
It can be politics.
I don't care.
It's up to you guys.
So the more creative, weird, and interesting, the better.
And what we'll do is we'll curate those lightly.
And then pick the top three and put those into a Twitter poll during the second hour of the show.
And then based on the votes of the people on Twitter, I will do a freestyle rant in hour three.
And that's always fun.
I mean, what the heck?
Who knows?
It could be anything.
I want to start by telling everyone about a really cool conference I was at this last week in Miami.
It was called the National Conservatism Conference.
It was the third iteration of this, put on by an organization called the Edmund Burke Foundation.
So very, very deeply old school conservatives.
And really, if you're not familiar with this organization, I'm going to tell you you should be.
NationalConservatism.org.
They have the right ideas.
And what I want to kind of talk about and put in all of your minds, if you're not familiar with this, is the idea that we on the right, we the MAGA, we the America First crowd, we the new right, the based right, us, We need a full-fledged ideology, platform, and governing set of principles because the time is ripe for us to take over.
I mean, we are winning.
We are ascendant.
We are the ones with the momentum.
We are the reason people are joining the Republican Party is because of us.
And in large part, you got to give credit where credit's due.
Donald Trump lit that fuse, okay?
He lit that fuse like when they put on the old cartoons, the barrels of dynamite blowing up.
He did that.
And it's working.
He kicked that over.
It's driven the left crazy.
They've shown just exactly how bad their ideas are.
They've started doing things that normal Americans can't stomach.
So all of those people need a home.
We have a home.
We are the right.
We are inviting new people to this place.
And we are displacing the rhino-moderate, spineless, thin-lipped, milk-toast, cream-in-the-coffee Republicans like Mitch and the rest.
All right?
We're pushing them out of the way.
They may retain power.
They'll keep their claws in.
You know, it's hard.
It's a long war.
All right.
It's a generational fight.
But every iteration of elections, we get more of our people in and push more of their people out, putting more pressure on the top.
So why should people come to our team?
What is it?
And here's the thing.
No offense at all to Donald Trump.
If he's the candidate next time, I will back him to the hilt.
Heck, I would back a yellow dog before I would vote for any Democrat.
But Trump is the one who did this.
We just can't rely on Trumpism as a governing philosophy.
I could love the man.
We can say he did.
He gave us three Supreme Court justices.
He saved the Republic because it's true.
But what we have to have is now a something that goes beyond him.
All right, he can be of it, but we have to have a bigger thing.
And I think national conservatism can offer that.
And I think, you know, there's a statement of principles at the website, and it's not going to surprise anybody.
It's essentially a return to the founding principles of this country, but extremely well articulated.
What I want to tell you about this National Conservatism Conference in Miami was it's kind of like, you know, CPAC is a big party for our team.
You know, everybody goes, you see your friends, you see all the radio hosts you like, you see all that kind of stuff, you know, and we all hang out.
That's one part of the movement.
That's the populist movement.
That's vital.
That's how we get together and build momentum.
But what this was, was kind of the academic intellectual wing of our team.
These are the people who write the weighty tomes, the big old books full of the ideas that explain how Edmund Burke, crusty old, you know, I think he was Irish, but whatever, he's a Brit of some flavor.
How his ideas now can be translated into what we stand for and what we're doing.
What is America First?
What is MAGA?
And really now what I want to ask you to consider is what is National Conservatism?
And the first thing you'll hear from the left is, oh, it's National Conservatism because that's the same as National Socialism and obviously they're Nazis.
No.
We are people who understand that the nation-state is the fundamental place on this planet where cultures exist.
And we have a unique culture.
Americans have a unique culture.
We have an exceptional nation built on principles no one else did before that the individual person, the we, the people, owns the country and the government works for us.
We cede to them some ability to boss us around, but a very limited ability.
And what national conservatism says is we believe in the nation-state.
We are not global citizens.
I have a United States passport.
I do not have a UN passport and I never will.
So what national conservatism now can do for all of us is allow us to have a political platform, not tied to one person, tied to a larger thing.
Because what's a Republican?
If you say, I'm a Republican, what's that?
Nothing at this point.
It really, literally means nothing.
And because it includes the gutless, spineless, rhino, thin-lipped, milquetoast, cream-in-a-coffee Republicans, it's actually bad for us to say that we're Republicans.
As national conservatives, we are something broader.
We are a movement.
And like I said, we are the movement that has the energy that has the rest of it.
And something very important happened.
during this conference.
Because I know that a lot of people on the MAGA, America First, part of our party of the New Right, have had a beef with Heritage as part of Con Inc., Conservative Inc., part of the moderate Republican crowd.
And it's been valid for a while, for a long time.
They have sucked up a lot of resources, and they have not stood and fought when we needed them.
I saw that change.
It changed a while ago.
What I saw at the NatCon conference was the president of the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts, who's been there for a while and who is fundamentally changing the culture there.
He was brought in to do it in recognition of the fact that we are now a fighting party, not a capitulating party who wants to stand on the moral high ground and lose gracefully.
No, we're not going to lose.
We're going to win.
And we're going to win because we fight.
And he came as the president of Heritage, whose budget literally dwarfs all of the other participants combined.
He said to that conference, I don't come to tell you to become part of Heritage's conservatism.
I come to tell you we, meaning Heritage, are part of your movement.
That is a fundamental and seismic shift in the Republican Party, in the conservative movement, in national conservatism as the ideology that animates all of us.
So read up.
If you're unaware of it, read up.
There's plenty of it.
I've got a piece coming out tomorrow that explains some of this, but I want you to get familiar with that.
And next segment, we're going to be talking to David Reboy, Whose idea was used, his do-you-know-what-time-it-is idea, was used by Kevin Roberts in his speech.
All right, that right there is crossing a couple of previously boundaries and now common ground.
We are one team, and we are gonna crush the woke left.
I'm Jim Hanson.
This is America First Radio, and we're kicking butt and taking names.
I'll be back after the break.
Thank you.
Mike's on.
There we go.
Rumble, how are we going?
Already 400 people watching.
Rumble!
A couple suggestions already for the rant.
Dude, I love that Rumble is a thing now.
It's so good.
I bought some stock yesterday.
First thing I did when the announcement was made.
I probably should have been planning ahead, but I saw Robbie Starbuck tweeted it out and I was like, ooh, why wasn't I paying attention to that?
And I just went ahead and I bought a decent sized chunk of stock because you got to back your plays.
Yeah, I first saw the news update from Bongino's website when he mentioned it was going.
It's by far the most successful conservative alternative, I think, of them all.
I think that's the game right there.
Somebody, one of these times, you know, and people keep trying.
Who knows which ones are going to win and work?
But as long as we keep trying, you know, we're going to be in a position where one of them is going to pop.
And there's a lot of ways we're going to beat the left and reclaim some of the information space.
But having our own platforms is absolutely one of them, you know, and then we have to beat our way into their platforms.
Right.
I think my previous metric was that it's literally, prior to Truth Social coming out, it was the only platform Trump had an account on, and he still does.
He has a verified account that he uses for his rallies and whatnot, but...
You see the traffic and the numbers that they're posting for their increase, especially in Gen Z usership.
That's a huge deal.
Gen Z, man.
Zoomers.
Zoomers.
I like it.
I don't care.
Zoomers, to me, are the antidote to millennials.
100%.
And as lead person, I am the actual lead dog of Generation X. So, October 1964, I don't care what anyone else tells you.
Gen X came into being with my birth, then.
And I think Gen Z is going back to our way of life.
A belief that, hey, we're going to have fun.
We're not going to take crap from anybody.
We're going to live.
We're going to do great things.
The last great time Americans had was the 80s and 90s.
And I was doing that.
I helped.
I was a major part of the reason that things were so much fun in the 80s and 90s.
And we're going back to that.
My only concern is that Gen Z, of course, is by far the generation most fully indoctrinated with all this degenerate LGBT stuff.
You see the numbers saying, oh, more Members of Gen Z identify as LGBTQ barbecue than any other generation, and it's like, yeah, I wonder why that is.
Barbecue, I like that.
I think you're right, and we're going to have to overcome that, but there's also, there's part of the backlash.
You know, it's like, I liken it to back in the 1950s and 60s when all the professors at university were wearing short white sleeve shirts, crew cuts, you know, thin black tie and glasses like Michael Douglas on Falling Down.
Right that great reference that was now the pendulum swung against that well now all the the Professors have blue hair and piercings and tattoos, and you know they look like ridiculous mutant freaks and That creates a rebellion Youth rebels.
It's their job.
They need to rebel against whatever is the establishment.
Hell yeah!
And that is the establishment.
I mean, that is.
And good.
They won.
We have to grant.
Now, that's not because we wanted it to be that way.
But they won.
And we have to live with that.
And I think there will be a rebellion coming out of that.
And a revolution doesn't need the majority.
It needs a motivated, dedicated, counterculture, badass, punk rock style crew.
And I just feel it.
I feel it, man.
All right, 30 seconds.
All right.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, I am Jim Hansen, and I am pleased to be bringing on a good friend, a colleague, and a compatriot in the fight.
My favorite pragmatist.
Do we not have him yet?
Okay, I'll keep talking about him.
He's he's a giant in the conservative movement, not just as a thought leader, but because he's got deltoids the size of cannonballs.
And, and he is my good friend, David Reboy.
Welcome to the show, Dave.
Hey, oh my god, what an introduction.
Yeah, man.
Well, I got I had to do you right.
I was gonna break into the Hans and Franz's at first we put on, then we put on delight cotton shirt.
But, uh, but dude, we got important stuff to talk about.
We were both down in Miami, your now hometown, you and Miles, the coolest dog in town.
And I was, I gotta admit, dude, I'm always the optimist and you always bring me back down to earth, but I was really heartened It really did.
what I saw at NatCon, by the people who were there, by the energy, by the ideas, but one thing in particular really blew me away, and that was Kevin Roberts, president of Heritage, saying that heritage is part of our movement, not the other way around.
Did that hit you too? - It really did.
I mean, it was great to hear the president of Heritage Bogart my catchphrase, which is, know what time it is.
He opened and closed his speech with your catchphrase.
Yeah, and I think, I mean, that's good.
Obviously, I'm very happy he did that, and I did watch the speech, and I thought it was fantastic.
I mean, it was fantastic from anybody, but very significant, as you said, from the president of the country's largest conservative think tank.
I mean, this is What people used to derisively call conservative ink.
I mean this is the giant flagship operation that's kind of very well funded, has been around I guess for about 40 years now.
And it's great that they're finally changing direction.
I mean, it's a wonderful thing.
They have a lot of resources.
They still have a lot of great people on staff.
I think Kevin Roberts coming in now from the Texas Public Policy Foundation, where I used to work in Austin, pretends something really, really great.
And I think they're going to shake things up over there.
And when they shake things up over there, the reach of Heritage is so great that it's really going to have a lot of downstream effects, which will be good.
No doubt.
And I think the one thing, they're irreplaceable in one respect.
We're never going to gather that many smart people from our team to do the math on tax policy and economic policy and figure out how to pay off our trillions of debt and figure out whether our Navy is better than the Chinese Navy, even though they've got more ships, but we've got more powerful, you know, pride and pronoun parades.
You know, I mean, someone has to actually do that deep digging and no one but them can do it.
You know, it's kind of like the network effect.
No other think tank is going to grow to that capability.
But we also, and myself included, I never thought they were a fighting organization because they were that old school conservative.
And he literally said, he closed the speech saying, you know, what time is it?
It's fighting time.
was what he said.
And the idea, if we get the brainpower, the subject matter expertise of them, arrayed with the other people there, the Hillsdale, Claremont, you know, the people who have been saying this, and it's not like this hasn't been talked about, you know, the idea of national conservatism for a long time.
But I think now, if we can coalesce this You know, two sets of con ink and national conservatism into one larger entity.
We're going to be deadly.
Yeah, look, I agree.
I think there are a couple of big things that that set, let's say, the new heritage or national conservatism apart from the old conservatism, which the old heritage was like the exemplar of.
I think for a long time after the Cold War, People started, especially conservatives, started to take a lot of things for granted.
They thought, okay, it's always going to be, you know, the people will always be relatively virtuous.
They're not going to go crazy.
They're not going to be, you know, degenerate, you know, lunatics on one hand.
On the other hand, the intelligence services and law enforcement and all of the mechanisms of government that were supposed to keep us safe, and keep us grounded with the conception of equal justice under the law.
That will be around forever, and it's only a matter of figuring out things like what's the correct tax rate, or how do we cut the budget, or a little tinkering around the edges.
Well, I think what Kevin Roberts clearly understands, and what we understand, is that no, we've got much larger problems.
Uh, because we cannot take these things for granted and national conservatism realizes that we're going to need, uh, that look, that, that, um, that this stuff isn't value neutral.
That if you, if you don't take a position on the culture war issues on, Uh, issues like the corruption of FBI and CIA and, and, and law enforcement and all these things.
It's not like you're automatically gonna reset back to square one and you just quibble over these things.
That means you get rolled.
That means the left, the left will roll right over you.
And, um, because they have politicized everything.
So it's the recognition that, um, that in order to fight these things, we cannot have a value neutral laissez-faire David French.
type of conservatism anymore, which is not fair. - He's more like roll over on your back and show your belly like a submissive dog than laissez-faire.
But your point is so valid because without that coming from an institution as respected, as pervasive as heritage, our side was never going to gain the institutional heft to actually fight back effectively.
And I think that was a change now, you know, when you've got Michael Anton and Kevin Roberts essentially espousing the same fighting idea, although Michael's pretty sure we're going to lose, I think.
I think the idea that at least now those guys and the other people, Matt Peterson and the guys who created the brains of Claremont, of which you're a part, that's now part of the institutional heft of our team and it's fantastic.
Yeah, I agree.
There are a lot of people who say, oh, why do we need these things?
Why do we need these think tanks?
Why do we need research institutions and big places like Heritage?
And I think that's wrong.
We definitely do, because, like it or not, we are living in the world that the progressives have created for the last hundred years.
Meaning, like, the currency of government... Government operates through these things.
Like, that's the currency.
You cannot fight a bad policy with nothing.
You need to fight it with a white paper.
It's just how it's done.
We saw this under the Trump administration very, very clearly.
The Trump people would come in there and say, OK, we want to do X, Y, and Z, and then they would be hit by I want to dig in a little more.
We got to take a break and do some business here.
But after this, I want to continue this and also hear about, you've got an interesting new thing going on.
I want to hear about that.
This is Jim Hanson sitting in for Dr. G doing America First Radio.
We'll be back after the break.
We'll be back after the break.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
All right.
Mic's on, and he's still on the line.
All right.
Hey, hey, yep.
All right.
Yeah, I want to hear about... You guys... What's up?
You guys sure you don't hear the drilling?
It sounds good to me.
What about you guys in the studio?
I don't hear anything, no.
Oh, perfect.
All right.
That's the worst feeling, because how do you escape that, you know?
Yeah, I don't know.
What they're doing is they're replacing all of the rails.
for the balconies with glass from like iron to glass and it's going to take forever and every day they're just oh dude that's that's painful to contemplate because i mean when they do something in my neighborhood it's like you know one day two days not every every balcony on a big apartment building oh this is it's going to take a year all right man your dog's gonna be crazy by then yeah yeah i feel that's why i feel bad like leaving it at home Yeah, well.
Leaving him at home.
Oh, no kidding.
Well, he can go in his crate and chill.
Yeah.
You need to soundproof it for him.
What the hell are you eating, man?
I swear to God, you know what he's eating?
He's eating, like, cables.
Oh!
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah, like, it's crazy.
I mean, thank God, no speaker cables.
No, like, you know, no serious cables.
But he...
He chewed apart like just a lighting fixture.
No, he'll learn one time.
All it's going to take is one bite too many and he'll be like, ah!
Remember, we are live, so this is going out on Rumble.
Not that everybody is not interested in the trials and travails of Miles, the Bernadoodle.
Bernadoodle, dude.
He's so cute.
He's adorable.
I'm anti-doodle, but I'll make an exception for Miles.
Yeah, well dude, it was fun seeing you.
And I tell you what, the other thing was, some of the people down there that I got to talk to on sidebars, it's just, it's shocking how much of a change there is in mentality regarding whether we can actually start a real counterattack.
You know, I think, yes, I think the belief is now that we hit a tipping point with the American people, you know, because of COVID, because of inflation, because of all the things, the abuses of power and everything they've seen because of seeing what they get, kids get taught in schools, drag queen story hour.
It's like the left is helping, man.
You know, at some level they're, they're self-defeating.
Right.
No, I, I agree.
And, and I have to give props to, uh, to Yaron Mazony who, uh, who organized the thing.
And he just invited really formidable people.
And a pretty broad array.
Yeah.
And it was great to see folks that you've never met, you've just encountered on Twitter, and things like that.
It was quite good.
Even my parents enjoyed it.
All right.
35 seconds.
All right.
Hey, what's, what, oh, you still there, Dave?
Yep.
What affiliation should I give you?
Um, you can pick, uh, Claremont.
Claremont, okay.
Senior Fellow?
Yes.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
It is, and welcome back to America First Radio.
We're continuing to talk with my good friend David Reboy, who is a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, and we were talking about a I guess a collection of conspiracy theorists, all of us down in Miami, doing good things and planning the counterattack against the woke left, of which Claremont is a leading force and had a lot of their very smart people down there.
But David, you also had a panel where you were the guy who they brought on to talk about art and beauty.
And I thought it was actually really cool.
So I want to hear, you know, what your take is on the new venture that you have planned and how that ties into a kind of rebirth of our culture.
Sure.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed the panel.
It was something different.
I wanted to talk about art and aesthetics and the new right and sort of what I see as the problem.
One of the big problems with culture today, and I think we're at a point, at least on the right, or let's say the new right or young right, where we are maybe poised to change some of these things.
Basically, I think the major point is that at some point, We had this expectation of when we would get older, the things that we enjoyed culturally, artistically, or whatever, would be more complex, more abstract.
Things that you had to kind of work to really understand a little bit.
Things that don't necessarily come easily.
More adult.
More adult, exactly.
We had art and culture for kids, and then we had art and culture for adults.
And I think at some point, and we're Gen X, so some of this kind of falls on us, but around the time of the late 90s, and I traced it to the re-release of Star Wars in 1997, all of a sudden The barriers, the boundaries between kid stuff and adult stuff just completely collapsed.
So now you have, you know, you've got 40 and 50 year olds running around and saying, Hey, you know what?
I'm still, you know, I'm still obsessed with Star Wars and it's totally cool.
And the only thing I watch are superhero movies.
And I think we're a lot poorer as a civilization and as a country, because the market for adult entertainment has disappeared.
And look, even when we say something like adult entertainment, immediately we think of pornography, because we no longer have a conception of what it means to We don't have romantic comedies for adults or dramas about getting old and divorcing and all of these things that are kind of part of life, that are part of the history of cinema up until now. that are part of the history of cinema up until
Now we're in.
Every movie now has to have an explosion every 30 seconds and all that.
I'm not going to lie.
I watch my fair share of the superhero movies, but I also take your point that part of what I do is try to expand my own boundaries because I don't want to just entertain myself like I'm the guy in the chair in Idiocracy.
You know, eating a tub of lard and watching some guy get kicked in the nads.
You know, that's not an improvement to my life.
I want to expand that, and I think that's what you're saying.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.
I think that there is something that accrues within a person when they spend time and work trying to understand something.
That doesn't necessarily come easily.
It's good for your brain, too.
Well, that's the thing.
It's good for your brain.
You read a book that's a little bit difficult that's great, and the rewards are wonderful.
It's much better than reading People magazine.
And I think we really need to bring that back.
And look, I mean, it's not the biggest political issue out there.
It's not abortion or inflation or nuclear war or whatever.
But I do think that people should be talking about it because these things do have an effect.
And we're in the position where I think people want to, people are starting to want something more.
They look around and they see, like, look, the popularity of Jordan Peterson.
What does he say?
He says, clean your room.
What is that?
It's an exhortation to try.
Right.
To expand your boundaries and do something.
Yeah, well, I think you're on to something and I hope more people take the time to expand their own horizons.
Make yourself a better person.
Get based.
Do something good with your life.
David Reboy, Claremont Fellow, big guy, music guy, art guy, good guy.
This is Jim Hanson.
We'll be back with more America First after the break.
All right.
Mics are on, and he's still flying.
Hey, dude, thanks.
That was fun, and I think you're pointing to a very necessary thing for the movement.
Oh, he's gone.
He did drop off.
He's gone.
This guy's dog's probably chewing a power cord.
My goodness, Jim, the rumble chat is really lively today over the shirt you're wearing.
They're trying to figure out, it's not camouflage, it's just some weird thing.
Someone said, what?
No camo shirt?
Civvies today.
This is a style of camo known as Italian Museum Tour.
Oh wow.
Someone else said, today's shirt is Morse Code camo.
You know what it's kind of be?
There's a kind of tree that has one of these.
It could almost be a real tree kind of thing.
But anyhow.
Hey, I see Amber.
Can you hear me?
Alright.
Well, good to see you.
Thanks for coming on.
Like I said, I enjoyed your panel.
There was a lot said in there, but I think you did the best job of getting to the point and nailing it.
So my wife was impressed too.
Cool.
And I thought your piece today, it's the issue that I think the left is giving us, you know, in a way that's going to allow us to do it.
Because young kid, obviously, I live in Virginia too.
You know, I was at the debate between him and McAuliffe.
I was at the Crystal City Sports Bar.
Right?
With a whole bunch of Republicans.
There was a big Republican party there watching the debate.
And as soon as Yunkin said, parents don't have a place in their kid's education, the place just went dead silent.
And everybody looked at the person next to him and said, did he really say that?
I mean, because he lost.
That was the moment that Terry McAuliffe lost.
It was awesome.
But he gave us that issue.
And now this this kind of this queering issue and that's that's my view is they're they're gonna stop the alphabet and they're gonna go to queer because there is a queer pedagogy you know there's all these things about it and it's shorter and then they don't have to add stuff you know that covers everything but it it fits with their idea that start young and own them forever.
When are you going to do Mighty Oaks?
I will right after this.
Are we doing two segments?
Can you do two segments, Amber?
I can, yeah.
Then I'm going to do it right after that.
Is that enough time?
I guess it depends on how long it takes you to read the... The audio is 24 seconds, so probably around a minute, minute 30.
Yeah, well, it's a complicated game.
We're going to go for it.
I'm going to do it afterwards.
I'm going to read it really fast.
All right.
All right.
Well, minute left.
Minute out.
Cool.
Yeah, I figure if we start with your Spectator piece, and you're, what, Washington editor for the Spectator?
Yep, that's it.
Cool.
And unfit to print?
Yes, please.
All right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Got to get you some sub stack subscribers.
Absolutely.
This show, actually, I mean, when I had books up, Seb's show moved stuff.
So he's got the most engaged audience I ever found.
That's why I love playing here.
All right.
It's Jim Hansen.
Yes, I am.
And we're back doing America First Radio and pleasure this segment to be joined by Amber Athey.
She is the Washington editor for The Spectator and has a sub stack, which you should subscribe to, called Unfit to Print, which I kind of like.
It's edgy.
Well, Amber, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me.
All right, now you had a piece in The Spectator that I read today that I loved.
I am a Virginia resident, as are you.
We, I think, both were surprised and pleasantly, you know, happy about the fact that we have a governor now who shares a lot of our values named Glenn Youngkin.
And he just made a bold move.
They have now put the educational establishment and the queer left activists on notice that the trans game they've been playing in our schools isn't going to fly.
So give me some of the specifics.
Give me some of the good news about this new policy.
It is an absolutely fantastic policy.
Reading through it, I was just thrilled to see that Glenn Youngkin is delivering on his campaign promise to wrestle control over your kids away from student, or rather, teachers' unions and school boards and giving it back to the parents.
And the transgender policy in Virginia public schools before this was really just a trans lobby activism.
So what they said was that regardless of the sex of a child, regardless of the gender they were born as, as long as they identify as something different, a member of the opposite sex or one of the million other identities that now exist, according to the left, they are actually allowed to bunk with according to the left, they are actually allowed to bunk with members of the opposite sex on overnight They were allowed to participate on opposite sex sport teams.
They were allowed to use the bathroom that was supposedly consistent with their gender ideology and Glenn Youngkin has basically reversed all of that.
He says, first of all, even if you identify as a member of the opposite sex, you still have to use the facilities that coordinate with your biological sex.
So that is directly protecting young women from having biological men invade their private spaces.
And second, Youngkin implemented another part of the policy that actually requires parents to be in charge of their child's gender transition if the child chooses to transition.
So there's no more the child decides to behave one way at school, encouraged by teachers or administrators, and goes home and doesn't tell their parents.
The parents actually have to sign off on any official name changes or social transition.
So the school is no longer able to make that decision on behalf of the parents.
And that, to me, that was the one where it was a bridge too far.
The rest of the stuff is still crazy.
I'm not minimizing the craziness or the wrongness or the badness of it.
But the idea that a school would say a kid – A child, a minor, can come to their school and decide, I want to be the opposite sex or made up a sex.
And the school would go along with that, allow them to change it, call them by those names, let them dress.
Some of them had closets where the kids could go get clothes for whatever their, you know, their cosplay identity is.
And the parents would not be notified.
That was an obscenity.
And Junkin said no.
And that seems to me, even above the rest, that was the place to really fight back.
Because like you said, parent control.
Exactly.
Parents should be intimately involved in any physical or mental health changes regarding their child.
It's not a teacher's job or a school administrator's job or a school board's job.
To make those decisions on behalf of a parent.
It's really that basic.
And in fact, the Virginia Constitution makes very clear that educational rights, health rights, physical health rights lay with the parent in regards to their own child.
And unfortunately, there were many cases across the country and, you know, in Virginia as well, where children were being referred to a certain way at school and the teachers were hiding that from parents at home.
And the claim from the left was, well, we're actually saving the transgender child from abuse of parents because They define abuse as not affirming your child's gender.
But we know scientifically that the vast majority of children who struggle with gender dysphoria end up growing out of it by the time they reach adulthood.
So the true child abuse is making permanent life-altering decisions regarding a child who is struggling with gender dysphoria's health rather than waiting and seeing, taking the wait and see approach.
So schools were complicit in that and they projected their own abuse as abuse from the parents who refused to affirm the so-called gender of the child.
And it was this authoritarian idea, taking Hillary Clinton's "It takes a village to raise a child," which there is an amount of value to.
The village owns the child, the state owns the child, And we'll tell you parents, if you're doing something wrong, we're going to take that control from you.
And we're going to act in the child's best interests, as if that was the default.
Now, that's not to say there aren't cases where parents are abusive, but they're really minor compared to the number of parents who absolutely have their child's best interests and are best suited to make those decisions.
And these guys were like, eh, no, that'll be us.
And I'm sorry, I don't want a blue haired, intersectional America-hating major making that decision for my kids.
Exactly right.
They really took the idea of Um, saving kids from poor home situations to the extreme where an abusive home situation was a child who was living with any parent whose politics they disagreed with or who had a different idea about the best, uh, you know, mental health related choices for their child.
So they used that as an excuse, the existing framework regarding how to save a child from an abusive home as an excuse.
To make sure that conservative or even just rational parents who are using common sense about their families and their children as a reason to take their kids away or to brainwash them separately from the home and send them back as loyal little foot soldiers.
And honestly, I understand it.
It's smart.
You know, it's straight out of every authoritarian, totalitarian, statist operation.
Start them young, indoctrinate them, you know, from the first second you put them in the state schools, and then you own them for life.
And they're, like you said, they are the the proletariat warriors for the new world order.
And I'm sorry, that's, that's not how America works.
And these people should know that.
Hey, Amber Athey, Washington editor of The Spectator, and also her sub stack is unfit to print, which I'm sure all of you just moved over and are now subscribing to.
Because she's got good stuff.
And she's a smart one.
Thanks for being with us, Amber.
Thank you.
I get it.
Did you get the theme from Shaft in your ears while we were doing the bumper music there, Amber?
Yeah, I did.
Hey, I think we gotta jump.
I went ahead and gave you an outro because I lost track.
The first hour flew by and I got a long read to do and I don't want you to have to sit through it.
No problem.
It goes quick, doesn't it?
We kicked ass, though, so I think we nailed that.
So thanks again and I appreciate it and we will catch up with you again soon.
Oh, cool.
Thanks.
Okay, cool.
Thanks, Jim.
Oh, I can speak now.
English.
What is it?
Have a good afternoon.
All right.
Thanks.
Bye.
All righty.
Got about two minutes here before the next segment.
All right.
Well, now I got time.
I can read.
You're gonna do the Mighty Oaks read here?
I'm gonna do... We gotta pay the bills.
I like those guys.
All righty.
Alright, so let me just make sure I understand.
Do we need to figure out which of the crazed ideas from the Rumble Savages we're gonna go with?
There's only a few so far today, not too many.
You can let me off easy and I'll pick it.
Yeah, there's no fun slash pop culture ones today, they're all pretty straightforward political ones so far.
What do we got?
Oh, you wanna hear some of them?
Well, I mean, otherwise I'll make one up.
Talk about my favorite synth-pop bands.
If Ron DeSantis runs, is that good or bad for MAGA?
Two, this is an interesting one.
Schlicker would love to talk about this.
Is it better to flee left-wing states or stay and stand our ground?
Third, where should DeSantis send illegals next?
And fourth... That's fun, but that's short.
Stinsfield did a little bit of that yesterday as well.
And then lastly, how about the names of pedophiles and child molesters are now considered politically incorrect.
Now they want to be called minor attracted persons.
And that is a thing, by the way.
Well, I mean, that fits in.
I like the queer angle.
Literally, queer pedagogy says that we're all just on a spectrum, and that judging anyone else is wrong.
So, okay, they're not wrong for being attracted to minors.
They're only wrong if they rape a child.
Or maybe not even that.
But then that same spectrum for them goes all the way over to cisgendered, het, white, whatever, trad wife types.
25?
Yeah.
Yikes.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyhow.
That might be one.
If we don't get anything crazy, I might pick my own to throw a wild card in there.
All righty.
Standing by.
That's on you.
It's Jim Hansen.
But the people on the live stream who aren't hearing the bumper music probably wonder why I'm doing all these silly dances.
They're playing something like Phil Collins' Susudio, and it was just so synth-pop-disco.
I just had to let it loose.
We gotta figure out how to get that.
Rumble needs to go ahead and license that, so then I'm not looking like an idiot when I'm dancing to the music.
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When you look at these pictures, you get a sense of what black life was like.
Some of them look pretty prosperous.
Divine Providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
They had integrity.
That's what black people were.
We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
We were raised to love America.
Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus.
Hundreds of statues have been vandalized.
You see people trying to rewrite history.
The American people know these names have to go.
Why is that?
Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black.
Anti-hate themselves.
There is no country in this world that a black person would rather be.
Unless, of course, they grow up in this country.
You broke the contract with me for 400 years!
Then they're fed a lie that is so deceptive The reason that that lie exists is power.
There are certain people who are using the Negro in order to establish that power in Washington.
And the Negro is just merely a pawn in a game that's bigger than he is.
Hey, hey, hey, hey!
Hey!
The End
awesome tools and the greatest tricks that the American intelligence community had learned to use against our enemies.
Now it was being deployed against the American people and our president.
This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which makes Watergate look like a tiff.
The FBI director has no credibility.
The left used to not trust the FBI, and now they love them.
This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn.
Imagine what they do to anybody who has a single strike against them.
35 Russian diplomats in the U.S.
expelled.
The prosecution of General Flynn wasn't a pursuit of criminal activity.
It was a setup.
Flynn actually had details.
So he was talking about going after people's budgets.
They were terrified.
Media didn't start as neutral.
Media hasn't been neutral all its life.
The two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out.
In fact, through WikiLeaks, that she says one thing, and...
Oh no.
A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
Trump.
They were not there to tell the truth.
A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
Honestly, none of us really know holistically what to think about this dossier.
They went into Congress.
They said, there's nothing here.
Doesn't matter.
We'll keep going with FISA.
We'll keep going with the investigation.
And more importantly, we will go on TV, day in and day out, and lie to the American people to their face.
And nothing's going to happen to us.
The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.
And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum!
We're beholden to scum!
Russian scum!
We had not one person claim that they had or had seen evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
Devin Nunes was the hero in the forest.
He was alone.
He was mocked.
He was attacked.
Devin Nunes was subject to such scorn for saying the conclusions that we brought forth in that report, which all proved to be true.
Russiagate was a false story.
To target their political opposition.
To carry out their insurance policies.
I believe that this is a conspiracy.
These guys have perpetrated the greatest crime against the American people ever seen.
It was a coup d'etat.
This is how sick and twisted these people are.
I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S.
citizens involved in the Trump transition.
It was shocking to see some of the over-classification that was done to hide either corruption or abuse of authority and just to make sure certain agencies didn't look bad.
We have a peaceful transition of power process.
That's not what happened.
There were more meetings.
There were more leaks.
There were more attacks.
The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing.
Not just the Democratic Party and their operatives, but also the FBI.
I were writing about the time frame that we lived in, and that we're living in now.
I would say it wasn't supposed to happen.
They weren't supposed to know.
The entire time this was going on, they thought this was going to be what sunk the Donald Trump presidency.
and they were just looking for the golden goose and they still haven't found it because it doesn't exist.
You guys got me?
- Okay.
I'm adding an IS to your name, officially.
There he is!
Hey, I want to talk a little Hunter Biden.
You want to do that?
Sure.
They're talking about a special counsel, and I want to talk with you about what's the best way to use this to our collective advantage.
I have a Biden joke.
By the way, I am done with the first draft of Inferno.
Glad that's not in the air.
See, it's good, though.
The Rumble people, they pay extra for that.
I had to throw that down.
I have a Biden joke.
By the way, I am done with the first draft of Inferno. 20 seconds.
When are you going to send it to me?
Your assistance is in there.
I'm going through doing a close read on it in preparation for, like, five more close reads.
Okay.
They're cutting mics.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First, and I'm delighted to welcome our special guest host, Jim Hansen. - Mm-hmm.
Hey folks, and I am delighted to bring on a guest you guys should have been expecting when you saw that I'm hosting, because Colonel Kurt Schlichter and I have what I call the Mutually Assured Domination Pact.
When I host, he's a guest.
When he hosts, I'm a guest.
Because you guys need us both.
I'm the East Coast Warlord, he's the West Coast Warlord.
And Senior Columnist for Town Hall.
That's part of the dispatch employment package.
Oh, my God.
Painful.
You know, they got another piece of refuse from National Review joining one of those toss-off organizations.
Let's talk about Kevin Williamson right now.
Let's do it because he's a scumbag.
He's trying to be a good writer, and you know why he's trying – Because he freaking copies me.
Ha ha!
Poorly.
No, I mean, look at it.
His stuff has evolved over time.
As I became more popular and he became more, well, his audience became more select.
Right.
He has moved into a definite kind of Schlichter vibe, and you can see the magic that I work every day, like my great town hall article of yesterday, whose title I forget, or today, whose title I forget.
He's definitely tried to get that kind of wacky, insightful humor, and he's just ended up at the dispatch, which shows that it didn't work.
It's the home of all useless pieces of garbage that used to be part of the Republican Party and now are just paid by billionaires on the left to attempt to trash people like us.
Well, I think it's less of a home than a shed.
Oh, maybe a shame shed.
Shame shed.
Shame shed.
All right, we better knock it out.
Oh boy, Friday here on... There we go.
Well, all right.
Now I also want to give a shout out because you told me in the break and that you're almost done with the next Kelly Turnbull book, which will be chock full of gunfire.
Hold on.
Seven.
Nice.
Number seven.
Inferno.
And you and I had some discussions about some technical matters.
I had some discussions today with a certain guy named Bill Wilson about ballistics.
He knows a thing or two about that.
Oh, he knows a thing or two.
All the things.
Kelly Turnbull is an avid user of the Wilson Combat Pistols.
Some of those things.
They are relevant to Dr. Gorka.
Fine car firearms play a role.
There you go.
They are a quality weapon.
I may or may not own one.
I like the ATF to know and then be disappointed when they come and they all were lost in the obligatory fishing accident.
But hey, I want to ask you a question.
All right, now there's 33 senators now who are calling for a special counsel to investigate the Hunter Biden thing.
Now, there's a lot to investigate there and somebody should do it because Joe Biden and Hunter and his Jim Biden and the rest of them were running a sell access to U.S.
officials to corrupt government and state actors overseas.
And it's illegal to do that.
So someone should do that.
Someone should pay.
But is a special counsel what we want?
You know, I just think it's going to be a whitewash anyway.
You know, we've been waiting how long for Durham to do his thing.
You know what I'd like to see?
I'd like to see Durham and Bolton's mustaches in the octagon.
Just the mustache, right?
Yeah.
Oh, just the two?
I like that.
Yeah, the winner can rule.
The winner gets beard wax or something.
I don't know what it is.
But all right, no, it's a fair point.
We have gotten nothing out of any special counsels or prosecutors.
Is there no one we could appoint?
You know, couldn't we just bring a complete ring?
Couldn't we bring you in?
You're a lawyer.
You could literally be, if I got you the appointment, if I go over to the swamp today when I'm done and strangle them until they promise to do that.
If you were special counsel, could you make something happen?
Look, I think it's manifest that there is improprieties and illegalities.
From the evidence I have seen, I think that is clear.
I think what I have also seen over the last few years is people who are senior members of the elite do not have to abide by the same rules we do.
And through hook or by crook, they will be excused from their crimes.
Well, with Hunter, it would be through hookers and crack.
Well, hookers and crack, yeah.
There's a meth to his madness.
Shouldn't we hold him accountable?
Shouldn't the fact that we have been unable be a reason to do it?
In theory.
But we have to prove it.
We have to make it happen.
In this current environment today, with this quote-unquote justice, quote-unquote department, and the FBI and everything, Aren't we really, isn't this really just a giant Zoom call with Jeffrey Toobin?
Pretty much.
I mean, really, it might make us feel a little better, but it's undignified and it doesn't really count towards your numbers.
Then when do we start?
Because here's the thing, are we going to wait until we've got executive control again and then you and I are running through empty executive agencies?
I don't know if that's the battle.
What's that?
I don't know if that's the battle.
Okay.
As you know, you've got, look, War and politics and strategy and all that are about making choices and prioritizing.
Where are you going to get the most bang for your buck?
I think he's a crook.
I think he's a pathetic drug addict.
Is putting him in jail, which arguably he deserves, is that going to advance us?
Or is focusing on, say, exercising our raw power Okay, alright, but can't we... Can't we do both?
Because here's the thing.
It's coming out.
It's coming out that the FBI was stopping it.
They were stopping the investigation.
Yeah, okay, so let's go there.
That's what I want.
I don't care about Hunter.
Personally.
Let's go there.
That's what I want.
I don't care about Hunter.
OK.
OK.
Personally, I want Joe and I want the FBI.
I think, first of all, I think the chance of getting the return on investment you're looking for as to Joe is limited.
I think there are multiple avenues.
to addressing accountability for the FBI.
They include defunding, they include oversight.
I just, there are so many things wrong.
We've got to avoid the stray voltage, right?
The stray voltage idea, if you do so many crappy things at once, you can't focus at, you're reaching around, it's like grabbing fireflies who've broken into Hunter's meth.
So they're very active fireflies.
And it's just, I mean, I want to be slow and deliberate.
I don't want to be emotional.
And my emotions, to the extent I have any, because after I had them surgically removed during law school, my emotion is, hey, this guy has done bad things, and they're wrong, and there has to be an accounting.
But is that going to run up the score for us in the big picture?
Is it just going to make me feel better because Cosmic Justice has been sort of satisfied, maybe, with the understanding that it probably won't be?
Okay, okay, then let's agree on one thing.
I don't care whether Hunter goes to jail.
I think he'll die of his addictions and good.
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not angry with him.
I'm disgusted by him.
And I'm saddened by him because it degrades everyone to see someone allow himself to fall into this degraded position.
Fair enough.
But let's use what they did, what he and Joe did, to show that that was the corruption, and then the cover-up of that, and then the censorship of that story involving government officials, the media, Biden campaign people.
There is an actual scandal there that we want to stop, because they did influence the election.
Let's use that as the lever to make that happen.
And if a degenerate crackhead gets damaged, who cares?
Well, look, I think we have to make some very important points.
And it's not to guys like you and me.
I've been saying this a lot lately.
Don't tell me how liberals are hypocrites.
I don't want to hear, well, imagine if Trump did that.
Okay, I'm based.
I know what time it is.
I don't need you to tell me Democrats are hypocrites.
I do need you to tell normal guys who would rather be cooking ribeyes than talk about politics, except they can't afford to anymore.
Democrats are hypocrites.
That works on them.
The Martha Vineyard thing?
That was not for us.
I mean, that was just jollies for us.
Normal people looked at it and said, you know, I think it's kind of gross that you guys freaked out that a bunch of, you know, Latinx people showed up in your yard without lawn blowers or mops, and it kind of, you know, blew your mind.
We've got to do it.
The target you're talking about is normal people.
Normal.
It's not us because we know the score.
Militant normals.
Militant normals.
There's a book.
Dude, you got so many books up.
I don't know.
I'm pimping them all fast as I can.
Number 11.
Right.
Oh, I'm not showing you the 11th.
No tubing on this.
All right.
Well, we got to we got to do some business here.
We got to do some business and we will be back after the break.
And he'll still be talking.
with Colonel Kurt Schlichter, Senior Colonist from Town Hall, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, author of other real books and stuff.
This is Jim Hansen, author of Books and Stuff 2.
Listen to my... Don't listen.
Follow me on Twitter at Jim Hanson, DC, and be back after the break.
Cause I'm not sure what we're going to talk about, but it's going to be lively.
Nine.
All right, mic's back on.
And we got nine minutes in the next segment?
Uh, yes.
Nine minutes.
What do you want to talk about, brother?
You got anything scratching you?
I don't know.
Let's talk about the book.
Let's talk.
It's a Kelly?
Yeah.
All right.
You know you're in this one, by the way.
This one, by the way.
Back here.
Hold on.
I pointer.
We'll be back.
Here's Jim Hansen.
He makes an appearance in there.
You should.
I should be in all of your books, man.
Is this the correct cover art for now, Colonel K?
Or is there something else in the works?
Oh, yeah.
That's coming.
That's coming.
All right.
Well, yeah.
Open this up.
I'm like a bulwark wife.
There you go.
Because there's sexually inadequate rumble, folks.
Can't make it happen.
This, not happening.
What the hell is that in your hand?
I thought they were drumsticks.
This is, you stick this in the ground.
And you can put a wine bottle in it.
So you can have like a wine bottle holder in your yard.
So, you know, dude, that is the only thing I just I worry about you for is you are a wine mom.
You are a suburban wine mom in California, dude.
Southern California suburban wine mom.
I don't drink Chardonnay.
It doesn't matter.
It does matter.
It matters a tiny bit.
There's a hierarchy of wines.
Dude, you're supposed to be a bourbon drinker.
And I just I don't know what to say.
I want to hear more about how you find libs with AI.
Find libs with AI?
Yeah.
That's... Jim.
Who's in my ear?
Who's talking to me?
Alex.
Oh, okay.
Is that a thing?
Yeah, it is, but it's not... It's kind of sometimes a topic of discussion and less now, but interesting.
Find libs with AI.
Well, it's the... Did you hear there's a conservative dating service now?
Isn't that Kaylee McEnany or somebody?
Or her sister?
I don't know, it's like... Yeah, I think it's her sister.
Kaylee McEnany's sister?
Who's probably hot, I mean... Everybody on this site looks like me.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
No.
Hey, we gotta have something, why not?
You know, they suggested a title, and they were soliciting a title.
I offered Conservatang, and it didn't have a...
They just didn't, didn't accept it.
Yeah.
Well, it kind of, maybe counter brandish at some level, you know, we are a wing of the conservative movement, but there's, there's all those uptight.
I think this is more of the uptight conservatives.
I got to tell you, and I'm going to try and keep this clean, but back when I was single, like 40 years ago, it was a conservative girls who were free.
Liberal girls were all like, you know, let's hug and talk.
And then the conservative girl is, I'm going to change into my Catholic schoolgirl outfit and, you know, kind of play naughty principal.
You know, it was, I mean, it's just, you know, they just have, you know, horizon.
It's repression.
Repression.
It is.
When you, when it bustles.
I was telling her, I was telling our mutual friend Dave Reboy today.
You got to be quick.
Flipping the channels.
Flipping the channels.
I'll tell you when I get on.
Ask me why I was telling you.
Okay.
But I'll tell you.
I'll tell you.
.
Thank you.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
Now, that was some speed metal there in the break.
That's the bumper music I need.
Get me pumped up.
We're talking with Colonel Kirk Schlichter, my good buddy, author of the Kelly Turnbull series and the upcoming, about to see the cover, story I helped the tiniest bit with that he doesn't really need, Inferno.
Right on.
Eat it.
He did a little bit.
But you were telling me, Dave Reboy was on.
There's the cover.
Is he surfing on a tree?
Is that what he's doing?
We will have a full-scale cover reveal.
So you're doing the half cover?
Is this like a striptease where you're like, oh, here's part of the cover and then there's... It is.
It's the first dance.
It's the first one.
They may play, you know, I don't know.
Somebody's got to make it rain before we see the rest.
Then it's the second dance where they're playing pour some sugar on me and everything flies off.
Like Brandy down at the Traffic Light Lounge.
Oh boy.
Yes, you know.
I don't know.
I've never heard of that.
You know exactly what you were bending to.
Traffic Light Lounge.
Don't go there.
No.
But aside from Kelly Turnbull, you were talking during the break about something you were telling, because Dave Reboy was on previously and was telling some good stories himself.
Yeah.
And we were talking about, we were both down at the NatCon conference, which kicked butt.
And didn't invite me.
They said something about you.
You were naughty and you weren't allowed to come.
Something like that.
I don't know.
Are we getting back to the last topic?
I had to pay.
But anyhow, what were you, what were you telling Dave?
Well, look, I'm telling Dave, look, I'm watching cable, flipping the thing, taking a break from creating Inferno.
And just flipping, you know, and like Showtime and suddenly I'm seeing Footloose, right?
And you see, and you see... The old one?
And they're dancing.
Yeah, the old one, not the new one.
And they got John Lithgow up there and he's preaching about you don't dance, you don't do all these things.
And I'm thinking, he's right.
Okay, look what we got by allowing dancing.
Okay, it's all fun and games when Lori Singer's getting swung around by Kevin Bacon.
That's fine.
It's fun.
Now it's drag queens, and they're shaking their groove thing and trying to groom your kids.
John Lithgow was right.
We should listen to him.
He's a visionary.
Because it led to twerking drag queens.
It led to twerking drag queens.
Yeah, you throw open the doors to a bunch of kids putting on a show down at the barn to save the community center.
And pretty soon you have a dude in a thong named, uh, you know, called, uh, you know, Madame Bulwerka.
And she's, uh, you know, and it's, it's bad.
And then your kid comes home and suddenly his pronouns, snip and snap.
And he's crying because his, uh, manhood's oppressing him.
It's, it's a slippery slope and we're skiing down it.
And funny thing, someone was complaining yesterday on Twitter that the twerking by these drag queens, because it's a dude, I mean drag queen is a dude, they don't have the butt cushion.
The twerk is the flapping of the giant butt and it's not there.
Look, I think Spinal Tap's epic song Big Bottom.
Talk about mudflaps, my girl's got them!
There's a cultural reference.
It drives me out of my mind.
How can I leave this behind?
So, I mean, lyrical.
Yeah, that's quality.
That's the kind of culture that we need to get back to.
That's a quality writing.
You know, I got to tell you, I'm looking back 40 years ago.
It kind of like the rock culture that we grew up in, you know, driving the Camaro to the school.
And there was always some kid who graduated a year ago.
And he's at the community college, but he still comes around the parking lot at noon in his Mustang.
And it's sad, but also amazing.
And he's playing like Journey and stuff.
Right!
Dude, that was a culture.
But it was a healthy culture.
You can say a lot about guys trying to desperately score with girls in their high school senior prom.
But no one was getting groomed!
We're the last generation that actually grew up in an America where we were taught what this country, the actual history of this country, we were taught what it means, we were taught what your responsibilities are, and we rebelled like all kids do.
And come on, we were the 80s.
We went the craziest, the last big hurrah of America as the dominant force, and it's been downhill since then.
And I think we can harness that again without the perverted freakishness.
That's not helping.
Yeah, look, our generation has an energy, and frankly, those crazy kids admire it.
I've had young people go, you know, I wish I'd grown up in the 80s.
I grew up in the 2000s.
Everyone kept telling me to use my inside voice.
You know, you can graduate from high school today with never being in a fight.
That's that's you imagine.
Yeah, I mean, there are guys who've never kicked anybody's butt and never gotten their butt kicked.
Now, I didn't enjoy getting my butt kicked.
I don't particularly enjoy beating the hell out of somebody.
But you know, that's kind of what a man does.
It's a reality check and it reminds you that there are consequences to running your mouth.
And there are things that you have to deal with that they've been told now, oh no, that can't happen to you and you can do whatever you want.
And now they live online so much that they get into IRL in real life and all of a sudden they could actually get thumped and not understand what just happened.
Well, look, I'm not saying you and I have been at the scene where a young person decided he was going to get, play horsey, and he found out that he was facing a looming threat of epic proportions.
With a booming baritone voice who told him, what did you just say?
We're talking about Dr. Gorka at CPAC, defending America from a mouthy grouper.
That kid, that kid.
That kid should send me a case of wine.
He got his reality check.
That kid was about to become a gum stain to be scraped up off a hotel floor.
I mean, you don't understand how physically imposing Dr. Gorka is.
And he's got that Hungarian temper.
Hungarians didn't survive by being in the middle of Europe, where they are, by being friendly dudes.
don't take offense easily.
This guy makes Irish grudge holding look amateur hour.
And the look in that kid's eyes, though, that was the point we're making.
Biggest dinner plates because he had never been confronted.
He was allowed you run your mouth online.
He was about to literally be dealt the pain.
And I basically had to, and I used some words, but I was very directive, as colonels can be, about him moving smartly in a retrograde right hecking now.
And fortunately, he did.
And of course, his idiot buddy decided he was going to get in your face, which went very badly.
Rarely goes well.
That didn't go well.
As the adults in the room and as the ones who had already had our fighting time, we didn't have to beat anybody.
We mocked them mercilessly and made them cry.
I think that they had a reality check that indicated that perhaps these three middle-aged gentlemen who are simply trying to enjoy a cigar and would have been happy to say hi if you had come up and treated us with a modicum of respect, are not going to play your idiot game.
Don't poke the big dogs on the porch.
Well, hey, we gotta we gotta jump.
Colonel Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, the upcoming awesomeness of Inferno, which he's strip teasing out for us over the next week or so.
This is Jim Hansen.
We are doing America first radio and we will be back after the break.
Oh, here he is. - I know her!
Hey, beautiful!
Am I in there?
Yeah, well, you gotta get more in.
There you are.
Hi!
It's like the top half of the book.
Are we doing that?
We're doing the arena reveal?
Well, that's for me, baby.
Yeah, I guess.
I better shut up now before I get both our butts kicked.
Hey, I thought that was some quality improv.
Dude, that was free form.
It's good.
I think from now on out, we're not going to have any topics.
We're just going to freestyle and rap it every time.
It'll be a rap battle.
Particularly with guys like you, who I actually know and like.
I think it's much more, uh, ask the rumble fish.
There you go, ask the rumble fish.
You know, but dude, we got the East Coast West thing too, so we could have an East Coast West Coast freestyle rap battle every time we do this.
Those, those aren't helping.
Goodness gracious.
Now you need your wine glass again.
I don't know what the hell they are.
You shouldn't do that.
This is my, oh, you want to see my favorite ones?
Look at these.
No.
Oh, good God.
Those are earrings.
You know, the only thing this could be is a bulwark.
Anyway.
I was waiting for it.
Well, we're in the break.
He can actually get away with it.
You can say what you want.
I'm not going to say what that... No, but we'll leave it to everyone's imagination.
All right, brother.
Well, hey, thanks, man.
It's always a pleasure.
All right, man.
Thanks for having me.
It was great.
Get the book read and get me my copy so I can catch up.
Hey, and you guys, you Gorka guys.
The book is actually coming out on the, should be on the 14th, which is a Thursday.
No, actually, 13th of October.
So, pencil me in.
You heard him.
October, yep.
They plan so far ahead.
And I do, and Dr. Gorka may appear in this as a, selling a product.
Is he leading a sell of the resistance?
No, he's doing...
Doing some commercial endeavors.
Nice!
Okay.
I hope it's a good gun line.
The last cameo was great.
I read that section.
I thought that was hilarious.
That was so funny.
Alright, brother.
Well, we'll talk to you soon.
Alright, adios.
Bye.
90 seconds.
There was a second guy in that incident, Jim?
He was a camera guy.
There was a guy filming it.
Oh, filming the guy.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, and so I went over and explained to him that you can put that up, but it may not be wise.
It never went up.
That was a funny thing.
Of course it didn't.
It didn't go their way.
I mean, what do you want?
Let me put up the video of three dudes embarrassing our little gorilla operation.
Exactly, yeah.
Not happening.
Do you want the phones open now?
Um, yeah.
Yeah, let's do that.
One minute.
Yeah, we need a Mighty Oaks this hour.
Yeah.
I'm gonna do that right now because that way I don't have to do it later and forget.
Read real fast at the end of the hour.
50 seconds.
We also have to do JCN once, the show.
JCN once, that should be in there, I think.
All right, I've got it.
All right, yep.
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Well, hey, I was talking with Colonel Kurt, the lunatic that he is, and of course we went off track because that's what we do.
But I want to go back to the Hunter Biden concept, the idea of using that fiasco as a way to attack the deep state because they were complicit in all of it.
They had the laptop before the election.
FBI agents, Timothy Tebow comes to mind, was slow rolling the investigation because they knew it would have killed Biden's chances to win.
So we need to expose that.
Now, like I said, I don't care if that degenerate whoremongering crackhead hunter actually goes to jail.
It'd be fun.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie, I'm not a good enough person to say I wouldn't get a little pleasure out of that.
More importantly, I want to use the fact that his dad helped him with his crack addiction and the rest of it by funneling money through all these foreign entities and then Joe playing along and taking meetings.
There was actual corruption and the American people had a right to know.
So the deep state hit it, the media hit it, the Biden campaign hit it, and the tech tyrants hit it.
They all conspired to kill that story when it came out during the October surprise before the 2020 election.
October surprises are legal.
They're a thing.
That's why they're called the October surprise.
But they didn't allow it.
They shut that one down.
And there's a lot of polling that shows up to 80% of the people polled say it would likely have changed the outcome of the election if they had known about the depths of depravity, not just of Hunter, of Joe and the selling of his office to support his son's drug addiction.
So I think this is something that we need, and I'll be honest, we're helping.
My commercial endeavor is actually providing information to the House Oversight and Senate Oversight Committees.
We're working with other organizations that are doing this research, and we're going to get the information out.
It's less about the fact that there was, you know, the badness of Hunter and more about the fact that they shut down the American people's ability To know about a candidate for president before an election.
That is probably the most dangerous thing that happened during what was, without a doubt, the worst election we've ever held in our history.
2020 was a mess for many reasons.
Hiding Hunter's laptop from the American people is, in my mind, the most egregious of those faults.
So we're going to be back after the break and we need to figure out what's going up on the Twitter poll for the last hour rant.
So we'll get that done during the break and get that up so you can vote on Twitter for what random thing you want me to talk about at the end of the third hour.
This is Jim Hansen.
and Dr. G will be back tomorrow, but we're going to keep giving you the same high level of America First radio that you get from him every day.
Thank you.
I didn't do that.
I suck as a radio host.
I'm the absolute worst.
Speaking of which, there still are no more new suggestions for the rant.
So did you just kind of want to choose or?
There was a couple in there that were pretty good.
There's only four.
Okay, so the one, if DeSantis runs, is that a good or bad thing?
No, I'm not going there.
Fair enough.
Is it better to flee left-wing states or stay and stand our ground?
That's one.
That one's interesting.
Where should DeSantis send more illegals next?
And then, how about the rise of minor attracted persons as a thing?
Okay, do those last three.
Just do those three?
Yeah.
In the poll?
All right, I'll set that up right now on Seb's Twitter.
All right, so we've got two segments.
We've got a long and a short, so let me do JCN next.
Should this one stay up for an hour?
Because if I'm putting this poll up now, should it be a little shorter?
Like, say, 45 minutes or something?
Yeah, do 45 minutes.
Okay.
That'll give us time.
I know what I hope wins, but I do get a vote.
I have a Twitter account.
And I may or may not have sock puppets.
Huh?
What do you think about that?
Twitter.
Twitter.
Oof.
Oof.
You can keep the camera on him.
All right.
There we go.
Yeah, we still got time.
Hour and a minute.
Keep the camera on him.
Didn't want to cut away prematurely.
After all, the Rumble chat loves you in the breaks, Jim.
We love the break content.
You know, I think we get back to my shirt because I really do like this shirt.
Italian museum tour camo.
That's really good.
I mean, that actually, that, you know, or, you know, Sopranos wannabe.
You know what I mean?
Sopranos extra on the Sopranos.
I still need to see that show.
I've always wanted to see it.
You have not seen The Sopranos.
I've been watching Deadwood recently.
That's pretty good.
Now you're admitting you hadn't watched Deadwood before?
I've always wanted to get around to it.
I just finished season four.
Al Swearengin is one of the greatest creations in the history... The use of that word... The funny thing is, my wife doesn't like swearing, so I have to actually... I mean, because I like to swear.
That's what we did.
Yeah, Swearengin.
Ian McShane is great, but I swear half the time he just sounds like Jack Nicholson, and I love it.
Oh, now I have to go back and listen.
I hadn't thought of that.
The word that he uses, the Charlie Sierra word, and it's funnier when the Chinese guy says it.
The first time I've heard that word come from Swearing's office that wasn't followed by him throwing someone off the balcony.
There you go.
30 seconds.
Yeah.
All right.
Standing by.
All right.
It's Jim Hansen.
That was a heavy metal salute because the bumper music was Paranoid by Black Sabbath.
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Another place that the fight against wokeness is in a very vital stage and potentially, potentially, I hate to be the optimist here, Bouncing in our direction is in our information space.
I don't think I have to tell any of you that the tech tyrants have done a tremendous job of censoring us.
They shut down our ideas.
They use their power to ensure that the American people do not hear our ideas because our ideas are better than theirs.
And they can't have that.
A lot of ways to fight this, and one of the ones that is tough, but is, like I said, it's starting to go our way, is lawfare.
And we've got some good things going on.
There's a lawsuit in the AGs of Louisiana and Missouri have sued the Biden administration for pressuring the tech companies to censor and, you know, to take down accounts they don't like, to take down information they don't like.
Which is a violation of the Constitution.
The government can't censor speech and you can't subcontract that out to the woke losers in Silicon Valley.
Another lawsuit, actually another court case that had a good outcome was just this last week.
Texas passed a law, State Bill 20, that banned the tech companies, any social media platform that had more than 50 million users, so all the usual suspects, from viewpoint discrimination.
It said you cannot ban, censor, suppress, shadow ban, or any other garbage tricks you use against us Just based on viewpoint.
You can't do it.
They outlawed it.
And they also made what I think is the best argument to make in this case.
They said that these platforms, these major communication entities, these places where all of our information discussion goes on, they are our digital town square now.
They said they are common carriers, which is a huge distinction.
That means they are in the same category as power companies and train organizations and transportation organizations and phone companies, meaning you can't deny service for arbitrary or discriminatory reasons.
Because you provide a service that all people should have a free right to.
You know, so you can't be the one who says, no, I'm the only, you know, fishing dock in town and you can't park your boat here because I don't like your Trump flag.
All right, that's actually a thing.
Now they have, in Texas, that law was passed and immediately the tech tyrants, their trade association, filed a lawsuit against it.
And they got an injunction stopping it from going into operation.
So, you know, it passed by the legislature, signed by the governor, stopped by some leftists in a court.
What happened last week?
Well, and that actually went up all the way up to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court said, finish the appeals process and then we'll weigh in.
So it went back down.
It got appealed by the state of Texas and said, it's our law.
We can do this.
It's constitutional.
The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals agreed.
And they didn't just agree, they agreed awesomely.
And one of the claims by the tech tyrants was, this will chill free speech.
And literally written into this legal opinion was the line, this will not chill free speech, it will chill censorship.
That's the kind of sass I want coming out from legal opinions, because it's true.
They're trying to use their monopoly power to shut down ideas they won't want.
So this opinion by the Fifth Circuit not only affirmed that the law is constitutional, overturning this injunction, allowing the law to become the law, and now it is in Texas, But it also went ahead and affirmed that they have the right to make them common carriers.
They said there is no right to censor, especially when you've used monopoly power and you are the only game in town.
So you are common carriers, you claim under your terms of service that anyone can come, all are welcome, just abide by our terms of service, and then you use your power inside these opaque terms of service to go ahead and ban who you don't like, censor who you don't like, shadow ban the living crap out of my account on Twitter and everybody else's, and use that to go ahead and be the thought police.
Well guess what?
Thought police is not in the Constitution.
That was George Orwell's book 1984.
Can't do that either.
So now, this is going to bump its way up to the Supreme Court and we're going to find out whether we have a conservative majority that believes that when a company attains monopoly power and shuts down speech, essentially in a way that no one else can, no one can speak unless they let them do it, does that rise to the level where it requires government intervention?
I hope that they find the correct answer because we need to jerk a knot in the tail of all of these tech tyrants and push them back to allowing what they claim they did at the beginning and that they don't discriminate based on viewpoint.
They do.
And this law also has transparency requirements.
It also allows, if you're banned, censored, or whatever, you can sue them and get attorney fees.
So, I mean, there's a lot in there for us.
It's a huge win.
We'll find out.
We're going to test our SCOTUS again and see, but we've been getting good stuff recently.
I hate to be the optimist, but I think this one might turn out our way.
So, top of the hour, we will be talking with John Schweppe, who is a First Amendment guru about this, and we'll dig a little bit further into the implications of this.
But I think we're gonna win, and I think my Twitter account will soon become the most powerful thing in the Western world.
This is Jim Hansen sitting in for Dr. G.
We'll be back with some more of the America First Radio after the break.
All right.
One One option is definitely running away with it so far.
What's going to be?
The normalizing pedophilia.
All right, good.
That was that was what I wanted.
That's the spicy one.
Yeah, that's it.
Come on.
What do you want?
If I'm going to do a freestyle rant, you want the pure heat.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Good.
All right.
I guess I could... Two and a half minutes.
Yeah.
Two and a half minutes.
And then the last segment's like three and a half or something, right?
Yeah.
Three minutes, 50.
All right.
Super short.
Like what you did with the last hour was great.
Like basically the whole segment was that Mighty Oaks read, which fit perfectly into the... It fit perfectly, yeah.
Well, that's one way to do it.
And then we got John at five.
He's first segment, right?
First segment, yeah.
And you can give him for two, of course, if you want.
Yeah, I do.
He's smart.
Yeah, I'm on before.
He was in studio last time, I think.
I know, in his tennis shoes.
I'm always impressed.
My wife is a little bit too fashion conscious.
She's not big on the tennis shoes with a suit thing.
Well, first time I ever saw J.D.
Vance speak in person, he was wearing like a suit jacket with jeans and sneakers, and I approve, and I'm like, yeah.
Now, when you do the jeans, once you got jeans, your footwear options go out.
She said, I actually was, I'm supposed to go shopping for shoes now, because my look is now going to be, when I'm at business stuff like the NatCon conference, gonna be cool blazer.
Designer shirt, jeans, and then she wants me to have better shoes.
I'm not sure what.
I like tennis shoes, man.
I say, fashion-wise, become ungovernable, wear the finest suit you can find, and sandals with it.
I'm gonna have to disagree with that.
I've got the fine suits and the rest of it's good.
I like I was at the one of the outlet malls down in Miami and bought some Timberlands.
I got like three four pairs of Timberlands now.
That's kind of my thing.
I think I think I'm a rapper.
I was talking with Schlichter.
Maybe I am a rapper.
You guys can team up and drop like a Haas mixtape of 2023.
We really could.
We should do that.
I've got, essentially, a recording studio at my house.
I think when we had Schlichter last guest host, it came up at one point and we joked about what his rap name would be.
He said something really clever, I forget what it was, but it was really good.
Colonel spelled K-E-R-N-E-L or something like that.
Something like that.
It was great.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, it's been a lot of fun so far.
The last hour we're going to finish strong, but before we get to the top of this hour, I was having fun as always watching Joe Biden try to speak English.
You know, he had that softball interview on 60 Minutes and he couldn't even get through that without saying such crazy stuff that I just couldn't believe it.
He declared unilaterally that the pandemic's over.
Sorry, but even Fauci disagreed with his boss.
Not that he's not prone to do that.
I think the problem we have now is they don't know what Joe's going to say.
And then the White House has to go into complete and utter damage control.
And I don't know if the answer is to actually run him out because I think I enjoy it.
You know, I think the fun now is knowing, can you imagine being in the White House, right?
And you know, Joe's going on 60 minutes.
Okay.
And you spend all that time, you know, you prep him, you do the position papers, you get your talking points.
It's an entire gargantuan process.
Then they pump him full of B12 and whatever, you know, special cocktail of drugs they've got to try and turn him into a coherent entity for the 30 to 45 minutes they can pull that off, right?
Then they gotta just put the quarter in and see what happens.
You know, and you get stuff like, oh yeah, the pandemic's over.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Oh, Ukraine?
No, we decided we hate Ukraine now.
We actually sold that to Greenland.
Yeah.
And they just have no idea what he's going to say.
And the problem he has is he doesn't even have a press secretary who can clean up after him because she is actually I don't know whether dumber is the right word, but she is an absolute, screaming, utter mess.
Karine Jean-Pierre is the epitome of an affirmative action baby.
She is in that job solely because she is a melanin-enhanced lesbian who fits the woke agenda.
She does not have any idea what she's talking about and she's the one who's supposed to clean up after Grandpa Creepy gets done, you know, making stuff up and saying things that have no grounding in reality.
I mean, at some level, I guess I should fear for our country, you know, and if I wasn't the horrible person I am, I might.
But right now I'm just enjoying like it's a combination of trolley problem, train wreck, car crash, everything you can think of happening at once and all of it is helping our team.
So for the time being, I'm just going to watch it.
I'm going to enjoy it.
They're going to suck.
And we're going to gain voters, and we're going to win Congress, and we're going to make their lives a living hell.
So am I a bad person?
Of course I'm a bad person.
You knew that already.
But it's not going to kill the country in the time they've got left.
And the bottom line is I couldn't change it anyhow.
So we're just going to live with it and come 2023 and 2025 the changes are imminent.
This is Jim Hanson.
This is America First Radio, and you guys get some news and good news, and we'll be back after that.
Thank you.
Hey Jeff, do you hear me?
I hear you.
You hear me?
Hey Jim.
Hey buddy!
I'm good.
How you doing?
I am well.
Good.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
And we are back doing America First Radio.
And we're going to talk, I teed it up last hour, but there was some good news in a ruling about a Texas law prohibiting viewpoint discrimination by the tech tyrants.
And we've got somebody to talk about it who actually specializes in this fun stuff.
John Schweppe is policy director for the American Principles Project.
And he's joining us on the show.
Hey, I gotta ask though, buddy, you got tennis shoes on with your suit again?
You had on Chuck Taylor's last time.
No, I did a press conference today on the Hill with Marjorie Taylor Greene, and I had those shoes on.
I got a lot of comments about it.
It's a thing, dude.
You gotta have a thing.
I do the hats.
I usually do the camouflage shirts.
It's a thing.
People like that.
But I wanna ask you, okay?
We got this Texas State Bill 20, which prohibits viewpoint discrimination, and I think, more importantly, designates the tech tyrants as common carriers, and it was injuncted.
by a one of the courts and went up to SCOTUS and back down.
Now the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals killed the injunction, put it in play, and it's probably going back up to SCOTUS.
But this seems like pretty darn good news.
Am I am I on track there?
Oh, it's it's incredible news.
I think people are hopeful about this.
And, you know, the decision came back and was even stronger than most of us expected.
And it was sassy.
Oh, oh, yeah.
I mean, you guys got to read that.
It was incredible.
You know, and I think it really poked holes in a lot of the arguments that these big tech funded people in Washington DC say, you know, look, they're trying to argue that the First Amendment was written to defend the rights of large tech platforms to censor conservatives.
I mean, that's their basic argument.
And The amazing thing here is that we did have a different case over the Florida social media law in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, where they made, they agreed with that.
They affirmed that argument.
So now we have this one out of the Fifth Circuit, which says the opposite.
And so when you have these two deferring judgments, of course, you know, this is right for the Supreme Court to settle.
And so I think, you know, this could be something that comes out in the next year, and that could be a really big deal, I think.
It was fun, too.
Actually, I read the thing.
It's 85 pages.
A lot of it's gibberish that you don't have to read, but there were some really cool parts.
And they also kind of trash-talked the 11th Circuit's ruling on the Florida case.
You know, there were differences there.
The Florida one was specific to politicians and political speech, and it had some cash penalties and things.
But they were like, okay, the 11th Circuit's wrong on this.
It was like they were teeing up SCOTUS.
You know, with a, this is how to rule when you decide we're right and they're wrong.
And then everyone else can follow this.
Because if we start, the common carrier to me though, was the thing that affirming that and saying, no, they are, therefore they can't act that way.
And they actually use section 230 against them.
You know, their argument was you're not publishers because you claim section 230.
So you, they really put them in a box.
I think that that's how we're going to win this.
Yeah, and they're catching the eye of Congress as well, by the way.
Today in a Senate Judiciary hearing, Mike Lee was asking FTC Chair Lena Khan about this actual issue and what would happen if they were common carriers.
And look, I mean, this is why We've recognized it's going to be really hard to move legislation forward through Congress because Democrats are so committed to their opposition toward free speech.
And so, you know, if this court ruling comes down next year, you know, maybe it strikes down Section 230 and something, you know, where we would actually have to pass something.
It's going to be really interesting, Jim.
I mean, this is a game changer.
I've been someone who's been a little bit frustrated.
We didn't get antitrust done this year.
You know, the tech companies seem to just be more powerful than ever.
And so to have something like this come down and give us some hope that maybe the 2024 presidential election, maybe we can actually stop the censorship and prevent these platforms from swinging millions of votes.
That would be pretty, pretty huge.
And there's a couple other things that I think were important in it.
One is there were some transparency requirements, which are, you know, if you're going to censor someone, you A, have to tell them why.
You have to explain why.
You have to give them an actual appeals process, not just a generic block check.
And the fun thing, I think, in the Texas bill was you could recover attorney's costs if you win.
You know, there were no penalties, no damages, but if you can recover attorney's costs, hey, that might be worth, and that's how you get them, death of a thousand cuts.
You know, they may actually change their policies rather than have to defend thousands of lawsuits that they're going to end up losing a lot of.
Yeah, it was a smart way to go about it, and definitely, you know, appealing to existing law on consumer fraud.
You know, if Twitter's out there, which they did for a long time, claiming to be the digital public square where everyone can speak freely, and then, you know, they're taking data from all their users, and then all of a sudden they start censoring them, Well, they're kind of breaking that promise that that was, you know, effectively made to their users.
Facebook has done the same thing.
And so I think it's a really interesting way to go about it legislatively.
But that's, you know, that's kind of where the states are limited, right?
Like, I mean, they have to kind of look at it that way, ways that state attorneys general And go after this.
But that's why Section 230 is so powerful.
A lot of these court cases have just been dismissed out of hand because the modern judicial interpretation of that statute is just that it's a cart launch.
You know, tech companies can do whatever they want.
And that's crazy.
We have to change it.
And so I'm really encouraged by this ruling.
Hopefully we can.
And one of the other things I liked was to your point that they struck down brutally the idea that the tech companies and the tyrants advanced that they had a right to censor.
And their argument was, if you take that away from us, you're chilling speech.
And they said probably three or four times throughout the thing, this doesn't chill speech, it chills censorship.
And there is no right.
There is no de facto or de jure or whatever.
I'm going to get all those wrong.
Who cares?
But right for these tech companies to censor, especially when they're the only game in town.
And they gave instances of that where they said, each one of these tech companies is a monopoly in its own right.
You know, if you want to be an Instagram influencer, you can't do that on Twitter.
You know, and all of those things were used to point out that they own, as you said, the digital town square.
And Twitter also called itself the free speech wing of the free speech party.
Come on!
Nobody!
I can't even imagine.
How'd you like to be the Twitter spokesman?
Yes, we are the... No, you're not!
You are the pro-woke wing of the woke party.
So now, does this... Okay, we're using federalism.
We're using state power to do this.
Obviously, Florida could change.
If this wins, And they say that the Texas concept was better because one of the things they said was Florida, because it was limited to politicians, was not as good as limiting it to a neutral viewpoint discrimination for all of their customers per consumer law.
If that's the case, then Florida could rewrite it.
Tennessee could do it.
All of our red states could do that.
And again, rather than fight that everywhere, doesn't that force the tech companies to think about changing their policies?
Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
And that's why it was so brilliant to have this in Texas and Florida, two huge states.
You know, the tech companies, rather than try to deal with 50 laws in 50 states, would effectively just apply uniform free speech law across the country.
You might have somebody like New York or California try to impose their own standards or whatever that would have to go through the court system.
But that's the importance of this.
And so I think you know we got to keep working on it.
I love the federalism approach but you know I do think ultimately we have a federal statute in our way here.
And that's what's been I think frustrating a lot of these states that are trying to protect their citizens right to free speech.
And so we have to address that.
And that's what the Supreme Court would go after.
And one other thing, Jim, I'll just kind of throw in, you know, I do think that it's important to understand that the reason why this speech issue is happening is because these are monopolists, right?
They're market dominant powers.
No one really questions if you're a bakery, you know, that you have the right to speech by not, you know, going, you know, forcing yourself to The difference here, and we actually have a long Supreme Court history of this, is that when market dominance, there's a case back in the 1940s, I believe it was Marsh v. Alabama, and it was a Jehovah's Witness trying to give out literature on a public sidewalk.
The problem was it was in a company town.
And so this town was completely owned by a company.
And the company said, you do not have First Amendment rights here.
Well, the Supreme Court said, look, in that situation, when you really don't have any public land to go to, to deliver your message and be able to have your freedom of religion, freedom of speech, then you do actually start to enjoy those rights on proper, you know, private property.
And so I think that's what we're witnessing here.
And again, the Supreme Court is going to have to revisit this.
There's been precedents that have kind of gone against Marsh v. Alabama recently, and so we'll see what the Supreme Court decides.
Well, I'm going to join you in at least having a positive attitude for once because I think if we don't take back, we got two things, we need to take back education and take back the information space or we can never defeat the woke left.
So keep up the good work you guys are doing.
I know if you're up on the hill that you are influencing them in the right direction.
Thank you, John Schweppe, policy director for the American Principles Project.
Keep rocking the tennis shoes, brother.
All right, will do.
Thanks, Jim.
All right.
This is Jim Hansen.
We are still doing America First Radio, and we're going to finish strong.
We got the results of the poll coming up soon to find out what my freestyle rap rant will be to close out the show.
We'll be back after the break, and I'm not even going to tell you what we're going to talk about.
about it's going to be spicy though.
John, thanks brother.
I didn't want to try and keep you another segment, and you told me you had a bottom of the hour, so... No, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
It's always tough doing that.
We'll talk to you soon.
Alrighty.
Three and a half minutes.
Yeah, that choice is still leading in the poll pretty handily here.
Well, it's a good one.
I wanted to go there anyhow.
It is, uh... It's the inevitable end of the slippery slope, as they say.
Yeah.
That was always kind of their end goal.
Sadly, yes.
All right.
So 517.
Oh, wow.
So we got a bunch of time left.
Oh, yeah.
OK, so remind me to open the phones up and take a call.
Sure.
Yeah.
But you want the phones unlocked, you mean?
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Unlock the phones then.
And I'll just remind me to say it rather than...
You want a cue in your ear?
Of course.
Yeah, it's because I forgot last time.
Alright, we'll tell you phones.
One more Mighty Oaks.
Okay, that's right.
We will do that right now.
Yep.
As a matter of fact, that might lead to a nice little Ukraine thing.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So the brother with the axe in the McDonald's in New York, that was kind of awesome.
I saw that.
That was just, come on, man.
It's funny, earlier you mentioned Michael Douglas and falling down, and I'm like, man, if we could get like a real-life duo of him and Charles Bronson from Death Wish to just like clean up New York City, we'd be doing fine.
You know, I mean, the whole bag of weapons.
The fun part about Falling Down was just the whole the button down look.
And then the just the snap inside him because, you know, at some level when I remember when I first saw that movie, I was rooting for him.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I mean, you're supposed to root for him at some level, you know, and I was like, huh.
I just bought a jacket that I'm trying to figure out.
I'm going to do one of those things where I figure out how many guns I can actually get because it's designed on a field jacket but it's waxed cotton and it's got nine pockets.
And so I'm going to figure out how many actual weapons I can get into this and then hanging under it.
You know, and I'm thinking it'll be a dozen plus.
I think I can get a couple long guns, a shotgun, a ton of pistols, you know, maybe a sword.
I got a cavalry saber I bet I could hide.
That's the beauty of cold weather, man.
You're justified in wearing something like that.
So then you can say, oh, I'm just cold.
I'm just wearing a jacket.
Exactly.
Girls are all about like, OMG, it's fall.
Pumpkin spice lattes and scarves.
and guys are like, oh, I've got a whole foul under my jacket right now.
Okay.
Okay.
Thank you.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo!
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Please just go to SebGorka.com Now, talking about warriors, talking about war, we're still playing Ukraine.
I'm not sure why, and I just read today that they're trying to put another 12 billion dollars in our budget Our money, our taxpayer money that we're borrowing from the Chinese to finance a war that's helping the Chinese and Russia in a very twisted way.
I'm not a fan, I gotta admit.
I understand, and there are people who make very compelling cases, some of them who sit in this chair named Dr. Gorka, for why this war matters.
But I think we've done enough.
I think at this point we need to be talking about an endgame that does not include aiming all of our military capabilities Through the hands of a proxy like the Ukrainians at Russia and Putin.
And I've said this before, I'm going to repeat it.
What happens if we defeat Putin?
Because there's a lot of people who seem to think that the goal of this is not just to take back Ukrainian territory, but it's to defeat Putin.
Now, I'm not sure you can push him out and them out of the parts of Ukraine that they have right now.
You know, there was a counteroffensive and they did.
They took back some territory, but they're not able at this point to take back the whole of the crescent of the Donbass down to Crimea.
So if the goal now is to continue pushing, continue fighting, continue sending massive amounts of U.S.
military equipment, which is not available for our troops if they need it, because this is coming out of stockpiles, it's not like we have some magic pile in a mountain somewhere of free equipment that we can just put on planes or boats or whatever and send it over there, you know, without depleting What's available for our troops.
This is literally coming out of the hands in many cases of US troops.
And what we're doing is we're pushing Putin into a corner.
I'm not a Vlad Putin fan.
He's a horrible, horrible tyrant.
He's a bad guy.
What do bad guys do?
Does anybody really think that if we push Vlad Putin in a corner that he is going to be the Russian strongman who lost?
That he's going to take the big L and just walk away without doing some of the very expensive and dangerous escalations he has at his disposal?
You know, what good would that do?
What in his calculation makes it better to go ahead and say, you know what?
I lost.
I tried.
I went for it.
I was going to take Ukraine.
Didn't work out.
I guess I lost.
So chalk that one up as a loss against Vlad Putin and the Russian people and the Russian military and the entire mythos he's built of his aggressive, bear-chested, bear-riding, you know, whatever kind of guy.
I don't see any chance that he's gonna take the loss.
So what we're doing now is making it more likely that this doesn't just end with some fantastic victory parade where the Ukrainians drive through the areas of the Russian-speaking areas of their own country, you know, and the people welcome them and throw flowers at him.
The people in those areas are not fans of The non-Russian-speaking, the Kiev-based Ukrainian government.
And what do you think is going to happen if they retake those territories, given what's happened to Russian-speaking people in the areas that they've taken back at this point?
A lot of them got slaughtered, tortured, and war-crimed against, just like the Russians did against the Ukrainians.
So we've got a situation where there's really A danger of escalation versus a win that's going to be a human rights nightmare anyhow.
And do you think Putin is not going to be sitting?
OK, let's say they push them all back across the border, all Russian troops out, you know, all Ukrainian territory restored.
Anyone remember the phrase little green men?
Because that's what are the Russian infiltration forces, their irregular warfare, you know, their mercenary style bad guys who they sent before all this started into those areas to build capabilities to disrupt, to sabotage, and to create the capability that they could turn that into Russian territory.
So I worry about it.
I really do.
I don't think it's a great use of our resources in any way now.
I think it's already been proven decisively that the Russian war machine is not a big concern to the rest of Europe.
They couldn't even roll to Kiev.
They were going to go in and topple the government, put in puppets.
They couldn't even do that.
Now all of their capabilities are destroyed.
They've got virtually nothing left.
They're sending convicts to fight this war.
And yet we can't see our way to telling Zelensky to make a peace treaty.
We're going to keep sending more and better and higher-end U.S.
and Western military hardware until he gets a win.
Well, guess what?
That's putting all of the world at risk, and I do not support it.
I think it's time to stop.
I think it's time for Ukraine.
You want to make a peace treaty?
I think you've got to give up Donbass and Crimea, the Russian-speaking areas.
You don't have to like it, but we're not going to back this forever, and we're not going to take a chance of Putin clacking off a nuke or some kind of chemical warfare, because he doesn't want to take the loss.
Anyhow, this is Jim Hansen.
After this break, I think we're going to go ahead and find out the results of the poll and figure out what the freestyle rant is.
I have a feeling it might be a little queer.
Back after the break.
Yeah, the pool's just about done, and yeah, left normalizing pedophilia is number one by a landslide.
Alright.
Good.
Who do you want to take phone calls?
And I didn't say it!
What an idiot.
I suck at this.
That's just it.
We're just gonna go ahead.
We're going with I suck at radio.
I mean, I'd say it's quite a feat being able to carry a three-hour show with no callers.
Okay, that's one way to look at it.
Nice recovery there.
Um, yeah, for reference, number two in the poll, uh, it was 49.5% for left normalizing pedophilia, 29.3% for where should we send illegals next, 21.1% for should we flee blue states.
Alright, well, it's decisive.
It was tough wording it too, because on Twitter polls, like, the options, you can only have no more than 25 characters.
So, it's really, it was really hard, like, how do I begin to word this to fit the character limit?
Twitter will do, you know, I mean, it's a garbage cesspool, but it's useful.
And one thing it'll do, it will pithy your arguments.
It will empithon your arguments, you know, and you have to learn.
How do I, how do I make a point in fewer words?
Yeah.
But that's why I like, one thing I like about True Social, they doubled the amount of characters in per post, I think, in there.
It's like 777 characters or something.
So way more per post, which I approve of.
I never understood.
I mean, okay.
And it's funny though, if you watch, if you watch what tweets tend to get the most engagement, they're one sentence.
That's why that conservative brief thing, you know, they do all their promoted posts are, are one sentence things.
It's because most people it's too long.
Didn't read, you know, if you can't even read a tweet.
Right.
But that's where we are.
That's a, that's just a reality.
Shortened consumption.
It is.
All right, so we got three segments left.
What are the lengths on the next two?
This upcoming segment is the C segment.
It's six minutes long.
That is followed by D, which is eight minutes.
And then, of course, that final hour segment, three minutes, 50 seconds.
So can we, does the poll officially end?
Or can we just declare it ended?
Because I think I'll do the... It has ended already.
It's just ended.
Okay, perfect.
Then I'll do that, this next segment, and I'll announce the phones.
No one reminded me to tell phones.
It's true.
90 seconds.
I need help.
That's pathetic.
All right. - One minute.
- You like it?
What's up?
I feel like I should be doing a PSA, but we're done, huh?
Yeah, just, yeah.
Like, the show always flies by fast, as you said.
We're already second half of the final hour.
Right on.
The speed of radio, the pace of radio, some such.
The speed of Trump, that's a saying that Seb has used on the show before.
The speed of Trump.
I used to have a buddy who said, you know, Jimmy, the world just doesn't spin fast enough for guys like you and me.
It's like, huh.
That's one way to look at it.
I think most of our perceptions of time was just horribly screwed up by COVID.
Like, it feels like, you know, two years basically kind of didn't happen.
Wow.
Yeah.
Welcome back to America First.
with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hansen.
Okay, we have 30 minutes of radio left.
And what we did, as we have the last few times I have guest hosted, is we started with the rumble chat in the first hour, suggesting some topics that I could do a freestyle rant on in this segment.
And we came up with an answer.
And it's going to be the left normalizing pedophilia.
And which is kind of nice.
I wanted to talk about this anyhow.
So thank you.
It's a sickening symptom of the decline of our country that the left has been able to turn Basically, the freak show of things that used to be beyond the pale into things we are not supposed to judge.
And there are plenty of them.
You know, I mean, we went from adultery.
Adultery used to be a bad thing.
And it's not that it didn't happen, but at least there was a stigma attached to it.
And I throw that one at Billy Jeff Clinton.
Because when he got caught, you know, using Monica Lewinsky as a White House humidor, he basically forced everyone on the left to say, well, it's not that bad.
Everybody does it.
It's just adultery.
You know, it's just cheating.
It's all this.
And they took away the stigma.
And it's gone downhill from there.
The list of things the left has done to normalize perversion and deviant behavior and everything is pretty extensive, and they slip it in the culture.
Like Andrew Breitbart said, politics is downstream of culture.
Well, they stick it in the TV shows, and pretty soon now you cannot watch a television program of any kind that will not have at least one trans non-binary, you know, all of the usual woke nonsense is now becoming the norm as opposed to what the norms that made this country great and a culture needs to survive are used to be.
The Romans, you know, fell apart for a lot of reasons, but degeneracy was a part of it.
And now you've got the idea they're trying to normalize pedophilia by calling it minor attracted persons.
No.
Okay, honestly, I don't care if you call it that.
It's still a woodchipper offense and always should be.
And that's one of the failures of our country is somehow instead of throwing these morons into woodchippers, we're going ahead and putting them on lists.
Oh, well, we'll check the pervert list to see who molested this kid who's lying dead in a garbage bag.
Why were they on a list?
If we do, they do that.
Why are they not in the bag themselves?
on the output side of the wood chipper where they belong.
So it's a situation, and it's part of a larger thing, all right, it's part of their entire game.
What they wanna do, first of all, on the sexual side, the deviancy side of things, they have what they call queer pedagogy, meaning they have an entire idea that all of sexual behavior, it's not just, you know, oh, you're straight, or you're gay, or you're this, No, there's a continuum and everything's on that spectrum.
All the way from minor attracted persons, you know, to people who believe in monogamy and stay virgins until married and only marry one person and have a happy family life.
And there's everything in between and they're all morally equal.
And they're wrong.
They're not morally equal.
There's a reason that some people should be identified and vilified because what they do is sick and perverted.
It should be kept away from children.
And in many cases, they should be kept away from children.
So if we're going to not wood chip, at least find some solitary confinement for these freaks.
They do not belong in normal society and we should not allow them, the left, to normalize pedophilia.
We have to fight back.
And fortunately, it's a great issue because any normal person looks at this and says, what?
You can't do that.
But they're trying.
So we'll fight back.
And I think that's a winning issue for us.
And it's part of their larger game.
Which is, you can't judge anyone.
All things are equal.
Everything is equally fine.
You know, it's okay.
Oh, you don't speak normal English.
You speak something less than that.
That's fine.
Math, two plus two doesn't have to equal four.
That's racist.
That's white supremacist.
It could add up to whatever you want.
It's a cultural thing.
No, it's not.
There is right, there is wrong, there is good, there is bad, there is evil.
All right?
Do not for a second doubt that that's their game.
They want to remove any right and ability for people to judge things as better than other things.
And guess what?
They're wrong because American westernized culture, coming from Judeo-Christian values, is the best thing the world has ever seen.
It's the best way to live, it creates the best societies, and we're going back to that, the founding principles of this country.
There's your freestyle rap.
I'll be back again, and we'll do this again, and we're gonna have a weirder topic next time.
Not that this wasn't queer enough, right?
Alright, I'm going to open up the phone lines and after the break, hopefully we'll have somebody to talk to who can tell me how great I am.
This is Jim Hanson.
We're doing America First Radio.
All fired up about the wood chippers.
I can say that, right?
There's no... I support it.
Okay.
I mean, I don't know about the FCC if they have rules that you can't... I was just going to say it's an FCC thing.
I mean... I wasn't actually calling for murder of a specific person.
I was generally saying that we should have a penalty.
Generally.
Which would go through Congress and all of the normal things.
And then we'd put them in the woodchipper.
Yeah, yeah.
Aye, aye, aye.
Three and a half minutes.
All right.
Let's keep an eye on these phones, then.
America First, what's your name?
Hi, Rick.
Where are you calling from?
Cleveland.
And what do you want to say to Jim Hansen today?
Nice shirt.
All right.
All right.
I can see it, yep.
Awesome, yep.
We've got one person already reacting to your rant.
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and a half two and a half Alrighty, two very different topics, but relevant to what you just said in the last hour.
Right on.
Okie dokes, 30 seconds.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's Jim Hansen.
Hey folks, it is Jim Hansen, and if you missed the bumper music, he's my easy lover.
It's little Phil Collins, man, Philip Bailey.
All right, I don't know why that mattered to me, but it does.
Listen, we opened up the phone lines because I wanted to talk to some folks, which we hadn't done yet today.
And I think let's jump, since it was on the freestyle rant, let's talk to Todd in Atlanta, who has a idea about pedophiles.
Hey, Jim.
Yeah, I just wanted to thank you for bringing up your rant, and I just wanted to mention that, you know, nobody stood up for the Boy Scouts, and now they're carrying rainbow flags and gay pride parades, along with a group called NAMLA, North American Man-Boy Love Association, who consider it a civil right for them to molest little boys.
And as far as I know, the FBI has never kicked in their doors, like anybody who's ever had a phone call with President Trump, so Combine that with the transgender garbage they're putting on captive audiences in kindergarten.
How much more of this do they think we're going to put up with?
I think they think we're going to put up with a lot more than we're going to.
So I'm glad.
At some level, as sick as this is, it's one of my wife's favorite things.
She says it has to get bad enough that it affects normal people.
Because those of us, you know, and that includes most everybody listening, We pay too much attention to this stuff, you know, because we care.
It's because it matters to us and we know it's wrong.
There are so many more people, though, who don't.
Now, there comes a point when it gets in the schools, when it takes over the Boy Scouts, you know, when you can't avoid it, when you've got drag queen story hour and, you know, grown men in dresses, not dresses, thongs and other obscenities, twerking in front of kids.
That's when you get to normal America.
You know, in the same way that COVID showed them what their schools were teaching them about, you know, all their kids are racist because of systemic racism and white supremacy and all this.
All of those things, when they hit the normals, Kurt Schlichter's militant normals emerge, and those people are not going to take it.
So I think we're getting to the point now Where the freak parade has gone as far as we're willing to let it.
We don't have to.
It's not a requirement.
They got away with it because we kind of weren't paying attention.
We had lives to live, kids to take to soccer practice, jobs, things like that.
We let it happen.
We don't have to let it stay.
And I think that's where we are.
I think that is now the rallying cry.
Not to my kids.
You're not going to do that in my school.
You are not the boss of my kids.
I am.
And I think it's time for parents to retake control and the militant normals to rise.
I need to be Schlichter's book agent the way this goes.
Let's jump to Randy in Knoxville.
My parents used to live there.
Love Knoxville.
What do you got?
You talk a little bit of Ukraine maybe?
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, Mr. Hanson, I liked very much what you said.
It just makes sense.
It's logical.
This guy ain't going to take a loss.
This is Russia, the Soviet Union.
What can we do?
And you know what?
I love Dr. Gorka.
I love his show.
I'm a regular listener.
He mentioned you last week.
He said, hey, we disagree on the Russian-Ukraine war, but that's okay.
That's America.
I like Dr. Gorka so much.
What can we do to get these guys that are really on our side to come to what I think is your clear, logical thinking?
You don't need to roll those dice with Putin and have him do something horrifically awful.
I don't know what their deal is.
I'm just a guy out here in America.
I'm a house painter, man.
I work outside.
I climb ladders and stuff.
I'm not a history major, although I love it and I try to read on it.
I don't know what their deal is.
They want the Crimea, they want that little section on the east, whatever.
Let's not let Putin kill these people and turn it into some kind of tragedy.
Why do we feel that we have to take them out?
Yeah, no, I think, and you point out, the difficulty is it's easy to feel sympathy for the Ukrainian people.
They were invaded.
They were just hanging out.
It's their country.
Putin rolled in, rolled tanks, and invaded their country, their sovereign territory.
You know, if the Canadians came screaming across our border on snowmobiles all hopped up on Molson's and Tim Horton Donuts, we'd fight back and we wouldn't let them take an ounce of Minnesota.
Maybe an ounce or two.
There's parts of it I don't care about.
But the point is, there is a beef and there is a legitimate position to say, not only is it Ukraine's territory and they should get to fight to get it back, but we can't let, you know, oppression go and attempts to dominate other countries go unpunished.
I get all that.
But at some point, the pragmatic Answer is that may not work out.
The law of unintended consequences gets a vote.
It gets to decide that, hey, OK, we did this and we pushed and Ukraine won.
But what did they win?
And I'm not sure.
I've been talking about this for a long time.
I know, you know, a lot of the smart foreign policy folks in this town.
And on the right, there is a large contingent that are 100 percent devoted to Ukraine winning this war.
I'm just afraid they're going to win something that we all don't want.
So we'll keep trying.
What about Tom and Glendale?
What do you got, buddy?
Hey, thank you very much, Jim.
Tom and Glendora.
Sir, you make an excellent point when you speak of the abuse of children by the Democrats.
History has proven being a good human being means that you follow the Bible, you're God-fearing.
If not, the default is you become a demon, a devil.
So Joe Biden, B-L-I-E-D-E-N, and the demon rats, it's not a joke, they've sunk to the level of Satan.
The worst thing you can do is abuse God's innocent little children.
What did Jesus have to say in the Bible?
Woe to you who harm these, the least of my little ones.
Better to tie a millstone around your neck and drown in the river.
This alone is a transcendent reason, I believe, for any decent human being, U.S.
citizen, to vote out Joe Biden and the demon rats.
Well, you know, I obviously agree with you.
I'm not sure, you know, I guess the biblical millstone would be good.
I personally like the woodchipper.
You know, I mean, it's bake a pie, eat a pie, tomato, tomato.
But we can't.
We cannot allow it.
And that is all part of the return to normal, to the founding principles, to God and country that we need desperately in this country.
And I feel We're seeing the start of.
This is Jim Hanson.
We got one more segment of America First Radio before we call it a day, and I'm gonna make it rock for you.
I am feeling it.
We're back after the break.
It ripples.
You know what I mean?
It's like, it's almost like mithril chain mail.
That's what it is.
It's the mithril shirt, right?
I'm working this pretty hard.
I had a camouflage shirt I was going to wear too.
And then you're just like, ah.
It kind of goes with the hat too, actually, a little bit.
Doesn't it?
Right?
And the Italian museum tour guide.
That's a winner.
You know what I mean?
Hey, sometimes somebody just nails it and that was it.
Yeah, the Rumble chat comes up with some zingers every now and then, it's pretty great.
That's their job.
Mm-hmm.
Yep, someone in the chat says, Chicago cement bath for all pedophiles and their enablers.
Ooh, okay.
It's techniques.
You know, now that we're arguing about technique, I'm fine with that, right?
I'm totally fine with that.
Yeah.
I remember seeing that, like, Utah or one of those states, like, brought back firing squad as some forms of execution, and I'm like, I mean, sure it's cheaper than an injection, right?
Well, and they started that whole game.
Oh, lethal injection is somehow cruel and unusual because they suffer when the thing goes in.
Dude, let's lop heads off then.
That doesn't hurt for more than a fraction of a second, you know?
Yeah, whatever.
No, I want an axe.
Ooh, old school.
I'm going on a trip to Sweden.
We're going to London to see my daughter.
She's living over there now.
And then we're going to hop over.
I got actual family in Sweden.
So we're going to go there, and I've identified a smith, a practicing forge operating blacksmith who apprenticed with one of the, I guess, master smiths in Sweden, and he makes Viking axes.
So I will be, I can't bring it back because I think the Brits might freak out if I bring a Viking axe through there.
They've seen that before.
Hey, a guy named Hanson Swanson Pearson lineage is coming through our country with a big axe.
But we'll mail it back.
And then my goal is to take some of the dry aged beef I do, right?
I do big prime ribs, dry age them for 45 days.
Chop of the axe?
Yeah, I want to cut it.
I want to, it'll be a six bone prime rib and I want to cut it into three, two bone steaks with the axe.
Well, you've got to film the process of that, man.
You've got to film just swinging this thing.
Yeah, I have to make sure.
I might buy a cheap one first and practice.
That's great.
Yeah, it's fun.
But I would volunteer, then.
You know, then, okay, I'll operate the wood shepherd, but if you really want to have some fun, why don't we pay-per-view this and I'll operate the axe?
Oh my goodness.
Hey.
Getting medieval up in here.
Right?
I'm Marcellus Wallace.
I'm going to get me here.
I'm going to get me here.
Welcome back to America First with our very special guest, Uncle Jimbo.
It's Jim Hanson.
We are coming to the end of another joyous session.
Our communal therapy of America First Radio makes me feel better.
I mean, I hope it makes you guys feel better.
But I got one more topic I want to kick around a little bit.
There's a movie Just coming out called The Woman King about a tribe in Africa that has these Amazon style warriors who they're all female, right?
And they they kick butt and take names and these guys are heroes and they're working for the power of good and showing girl power and African power and all this, right?
Sounds great!
Except they leave out one very important thing about this tribe.
And I think it kinda matters.
And I think if the left was honest and not a bunch of hypocritical, lying, propaganda-spewing scumbags, they might actually not have done this.
The tribe, the Dahomey, were slavers that's where they got the money that's where they got the power that's where they got it they enslaved their fellow black africans and sold them and made money and bought rifles and dominated and enslaved more and then trained their woman kings warrior crew and all this and now this movie's out
And they're glorifying these incredible warriors who did good things and not a mention of the fact that they were one of the most notorious slaving crews in the history.
And that brings up the point that there were more slaves, you know, among black Africans and Arabs than there ever were in the transatlantic slave trade.
Not even to mention, you go, Mongols, you want to talk about the great slaving nations.
None of them were the United States of America.
And we never went capturing slaves to sell.
We did horrible, horrific things.
But when you get right down to it, and this was funny because old Don Lemon on CNN walked into one a day or two ago, where he was asking a British woman, should the crown be paying reparations because of slavery?
And this woman, this British historian says, of course they should.
Absolutely reparations should be paid, but not by the crown.
The people who should be paying reparations are the ones who did the enslaving.
The African tribes who benefited from taking their fellow people and putting them in chains and selling them, not all to the Europeans and Americans and whoever else.
Plenty of them got sold to other places and sent down the river.
So, I think it's about time for people to be honest about whether slavery is an original sin only of white Americans in powdered wigs who wrote our founding principles and kept that in the Constitution, or if it was so prevalent throughout American and world history that it's something that we still need to work on wiping out and shouldn't whitewash.
This is Jim Hansen.
It's been fun.
Dr. G will be back tomorrow and I think I'm gonna go cook a steak and enjoy life in America.
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