Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Mike Lindell on being ambushed by the FBI
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And I think I know why.
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Tucker Carlson broke some news concerning Mike Lindell, and it is shocking.
This is a Fox News alert, and a shocking one.
We told you last night that the Biden administration has politicized law enforcement to the point Where it feels Soviet.
And we're not overstating it.
The FBI has just raided the guy who sells pillows on this channel.
Not because the pillows were bad, but because they don't like who we voted for.
FBI raiding the pillow guy.
This has got to be peak insanity.
If that's true, at some point, you know, this can't continue.
If that's true, well, let's find out.
We are honored to have him with us.
No monologue on today's show.
Instead, we're going right to Mike Lindell's MyPillow headquarters.
Mike, welcome back to America First.
Hey, thanks, Doctor.
Yeah, it's true.
It's all true.
So tell us, walk us through it.
What happened?
Where were you?
What did the FBI do?
What did they demand from you?
And how did it all end, Mike?
Well, it's kind of ironic, because the last two weeks on my show, the Lindale Report on FrankSpeech.com, I've been saying, I hear about the FBI bashing people's doors in in Colorado, and hear about everything going on with the January 6th stuff, and I said, how come the FBI doesn't come to me and bash my door in?
And I know why, because I have all the evidence.
They don't want to see the truth.
Well, now here's what happened.
My friend and I left for Iowa from Minnesota here to go early duck hunting.
It's a teal season there.
We drove down there.
It's a two and a half hour drive at 4 a.m.
yesterday.
We get down there.
We got nine ducks.
I had to be back by noon to do a bunch of filming for mystore.com for these entrepreneurs, all of them.
I had appointments with them all to film them for all their products and stuff.
Here we get to Mankato, Minnesota, which incidentally is where I was born.
That's kind of ironic.
And I said, you know what?
Let's quick go through a drive-thru here.
We pulled in a Hardee's drive-thru.
We order our food.
She says, can you pull ahead a little?
A few things aren't done.
We'll bring it out to you.
Well, then a car pulled in front of me, perpendicular, sideways.
And he's like, I go, what's this guy doing?
I go, Tom, that's weird.
Because the guy was sitting there and he wasn't looking at us.
So he cut you off.
He cut your vehicle off.
He cut me off.
So he's in front of us like this.
Then another car comes, pops aside and boxes us into the right side.
Then I watch my rearview mirror and a car comes flying up the drive-thru lane and stops right behind us.
So you're boxed in completely.
And I go, I go to my friend, I go, we got some, these are some bad people.
And I go, just stay here.
And I opened the door and I said, who are you guys?
And they were all random cars and random people.
And they, uh, and he goes, we're with the FBI.
And I said, show me some badges.
I don't believe you.
So they all, about three of them showed badges.
I said, what do you want?
Are you, are you, are you arresting me for something?
No, no.
We want to talk to you.
I said, okay.
And, um, So I pulled over to the right there, they pulled the cars apart, pulled over to the right.
We get out and they start asking me questions.
There's three guys, I think a couple of them were Colorado FBI, a couple many Minnesota FBI, one gal, and at least four of them.
There might have been more on this, because now I'm kind of focused on this circle of FBI guys.
And they start asking me questions.
One of the first ones were, you have evidence inside a Dominion machine up on your website, frankspeech.com.
And I said, yeah, I do.
I said, they deleted evidence from the 2020 election.
And I said, I have lawsuits against them, or they do against my pillow and myself.
And I said, the evidence has been up there for all to see since February.
Then he asked me another question.
I said, does this have anything to do with January 6th?
He goes, no.
And I said, no, not at all.
And I said, what would you tell those guys?
I wasn't there, but I would love to come to their little charade and bring the evidence with me.
And he says, Mike, we're focusing on something else here.
And I said, no, you need to tell them.
If you know other FBI guys, you tell them, because I've reached out to the January 6th People.
And I said, I said, it's ridiculous.
Then I said, I told the FBI guys, I said, kind of took over the conversation.
I said, did you realize that the FBI did a report on June 26th of 2021, a six month investigation.
And they said there is no collusion between Donald Trump and his supporters.
It should have been the end of the story, but no, they still have people in prison and everything else from that big from that.
Mike, did the agent ever tell you why the hell they were stopping you?
Well, then he said, then they asked me, they asked me, I said, so what is this about?
And then he goes, tell us about your airplane.
You fly it to all these different states.
And I go, what do you want to hear about my airplane?
I said, I said, but I'm not, that's none of your business.
But if you must know, I said, I go to attorney generals, secretary of states and other politicians to get rid of these electronic and computerized voting machine.
I said, that's what I do.
Now, what else you got?
Then they asked me, When I met Tina Peters, I said, you're the FBI.
You know I met her at the Cyber Symposium a year ago.
Of course you know that.
Everybody knows that.
And then they asked, when I met physicist Dr. Frank, I think those were the two names, and then I go, you know, you FBI guys, I said, is this all you have better to do than corner me here, all these people watching in a Hardee's drive-thru?
I said, why didn't you come and bash my door in, like you did all those people in Colorado, like Sharona Bishop?
And then Dr. East, he says, He goes, well, we bashed down Sharona's door because she didn't answer in time.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
The agent actually said that to you, Mike?
He said that exactly.
We bashed her door down because she did not answer the door in time.
All right.
So how did it end?
Is it true they actually took your phone or they tried to take your phone?
They took it.
They took the phone.
So after I said that with Sharona, then I go, then we talked for another maybe 20 minutes.
So we talked about my book and Maybe an ex-addict and I help in addicts and stuff.
And I said, how come you attack companies like MyPillow, but you don't go after these machine companies and they're committing felonies.
And then they go, well, we got bad news, Mike.
We have to take your cell phone.
I go, you're not taking my cell phone.
I go, you just want to arrest me.
You're not going to take my cell phone.
I run my companies off this.
And then they go, we have a subpoena here, and they show me the subpoena.
I said, I don't care what that says.
I said, you can't take some civilian cell phone that's running five companies.
I don't use a computer.
Everything I have for these, my recovery network, my store, my pillow, Frank's Beach, And he goes, well, and I said, can I call a lawyer?
He goes, no.
And I said, no, I need to call an attorney to know that this is legit.
I said, if I don't give you this phone, are you going to arrest me?
He goes, no, but we're getting that phone.
And I said, so then he let me call my attorney.
My attorney says, Mike, just Give them your phone.
So they're working on getting that back this morning.
Okay, so hang on.
I know we've only got you for one segment, but I want to continue the discussion in the break live on Rumble.
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I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First for the next three minutes.
I'm going to keep talking to Mike Lindell because we have to get to the bottom of why they are hunting him at a Hardee's drive-thru.
What does that mean, guys?
You know what it means.
It wasn't at his home.
It wasn't at his office.
It means they were tailing him.
Why?
Because he's a friend of the president and because he's a conservative.
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So your lawyer said, give them the phone.
I presume you did.
So where are you now?
On the subpoena or the warrant for the phone, what is the charge against you, Mike?
There's no charge.
They wanted to be before a grand jury in a case, but it just says it's not checked to be there.
They don't want me in person.
They just wanted my phone.
And on the phone, it says all records and information on the Lindell phone that do damage to any Dominion computerized voting system, all records on Mike's phone with any Dominion computerized modification.
It's all Dominion, Dominion.
And I've given Dominion all the discovery in our lawsuits.
You have lawsuits against them, so I'm just wondering if they're, you know, ambushing Dominion's CEO at a McDonald's drive-thru tomorrow.
I doubt that, right?
Well, maybe they're investigating Dominion and the machine companies, finally, and maybe they want me to be a witness, but they could have just asked me.
And of course, what I said, I mean, that is right, isn't it?
Because this is a restaurant, not your home, not your office, it means they would They were tailing you, right?
Yeah, when they tracked me, I asked him, do you have a tracking device on my truck?
I think you have to legally tell me.
He goes, no, we don't.
And I go, oh, you were tailing me through my phone.
And I said to my phone, I said, hey, Tim Cook, you can't listen to me anymore now.
What are you going to do now, Tim?
And then the FBI, he actually laughed about that, but you know what?
It's kind of funny when Bill Barr says, you can't track people by phones.
Remember what he said about 2,000 meals?
Bill Barr says, you can't track people.
Well, then they gave me another thing here.
This is very interesting.
He gives me all the subpoenas for my phone.
Then he gives me a sheet of paper and says, It says, uh, we request that you not disclose the existence of this subpoena for an indefinite period of time.
Although the law does not require non-disclosure unless a court order is issued, we believe the impact of disclosing this would be detrimental to the investigation.
So they wanted you to lie.
They wanted you not to tell the world that they took your phone.
Absolutely did.
And you know what it says here?
You're going to like this.
If you do not believe you can comply with this request, please notify the Assistant United States Attorney, Aaron Tietelbaum.
So you know what I did, Sam?
Last night on my show, on the Lindale Report, I notified Mr. Aaron Tietelbaum.
I hope he was watching my show, though.
I assume he was.
And I said, I am telling the world!
All right, so last question, then I'll leave you.
How would you describe their behavior?
How did the agents treat you, Mike?
You know what?
I was surprised because I've heard horror stories, especially if that one was one of the ones that bashed in Sharona Bishop's door.
They treated me, well, they listened to me talk for a half hour.
I'm just blah blah, you know, tell them about the evidence that I would say on a scale of 1 to 10, they were like an 8 with respect.
I really do believe that they treated me well.
He did say one thing.
He says, Mike, we're just doing our job.
And I said, why don't you become a whistleblower for the FBI?
18 whistleblowers out of thousands?
It's insane.
All right, I've got to run.
If there's anything you want to share, tell me or get Dawn to text me, and we'll get you back.
Okay, thanks for all your support.
God bless your audience for helping my pillow out.
God bless.
Thank you, Mike.
Don't think.
Tell her to come turn the shop quick.
Making sense out of today's nonsense.
Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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Mike Lindell on the FBI ambushing him.
I promised you every single day more of our exclusive oral history with Mayor Rudy Giuliani, America's mayor, that we recorded on September the 11th just a few days ago.
Here's the mayor telling us what happened when he tried to escape from the building that was two blocks from 9-11 as the towers were collapsing.
Play cut.
So I walked over to the second, the third office, pick up the phone, and it's the White House switchboard.
And it says, Mayor Giuliani, We'll be with you in a moment.
Just at about that time, the phone goes out, the desk starts to shake, the building starts to shake.
I look outside and I see we had about 40 people with us and they had been taking desks.
They were like just assuming their roles, communication roles, and they were all going under the desk.
But the office is how far from the Trade Centre?
Yes, it's about two blocks.
Two blocks.
So the people running the communication equipment were in the out office setting it all up on the phone and in those other offices with some of the chiefs making other calls.
So I went to one office and then I was taken to another one where Cheney called and while I'm waiting for Cheney to get on the phone the desk starts to shake, the building starts to shake, I look out and I see people He grabs me, gets me about halfway down, said, I don't want to go under the table.
But what good is it going to do?
Let's stay up here and let's see if we can get through to Cheney.
The building settled.
Went outside.
Everybody got out.
Bernie and I discussed it.
And I said, you know, this building on Barclay Street is connected to the building on Church Street.
We had offices in that building on Church Street.
It was a law office.
It's where our corporation council, New York City has a law office of a thousand lawyers.
So it's a law office.
And I said, I bet, I bet, I bet, which is a heck of a thing to bet at a time like that, but I bet they're connected underground.
And one of the firefighters with us said, yes, they are.
In fact, there are a number of connections.
There are a number of connections, not just to that building, but to the building, Uh, the building one block north of Barclay Street, underground.
So, not having any idea how bad it was, I could see outside, at this point, debris flowing through the street.
It still looked like it didn't make sense to go out the front door, or you'd get smashed in the head.
So I thought, well, let's go downstairs.
It's coming from this way, right?
This is Barclay Street, where we are.
So by going downstairs, we could go to this We'd be blocked by four or five buildings.
So we go downstairs and we try to find a door that's open, and we can't find one.
And I'll tell you a funny story, because there's always humor in the middle of these things.
Black humor, I guess, but humor.
Joe Dunn was the number two commissioner of the police department, and he was one of our most experienced and one of our very, very best police officers.
He had solved crime in Brooklyn.
It was our first big victory over crime.
He had just fractured his ankle playing basketball with his son.
And he had been at one or two meetings with me with his crutches, and we talked a little about it.
And he was there walking around following the commissioner, his boss, around on crutches.
So we go downstairs, and everybody's getting a little nervous now that we're trapped in a building.
We get, and we're about to open the first door.
And I say to Bernie, hey, we better wait for Joe.
The crutches and all.
I looked behind me, and Joe's right behind me.
I said, Joe, what happened to the crutches?
He said, I threw the goddamn things away.
He got cured.
It's like one of those cures.
Like one of those cures, right?
He was running like crazy.
But the door wouldn't open.
Went to another door, wouldn't open.
Another door, wouldn't open.
We went back upstairs to see if we could go out upstairs.
Now out upstairs was hell.
You couldn't see anything.
It was all black.
The only thing you could see is occasional things like flying through the street.
You didn't know what, like furniture or something or something like that.
You couldn't go outside.
There was no way out downstairs.
So we're just gonna have to try downstairs again and maybe smash one of those doors open.
And then two janitors show up.
We heard you downstairs.
Most of those doors have been locked for a long time, but there are two possibilities.
Let's go down and see if we can get through.
But it'll take you right into the lobby.
You'll be right outside again, but on Church Street.
So, hey, that's better than this.
We take a long walk downstairs.
We basically walk an entire block underground.
And the door opens.
He has great sigh of relief.
All the people behind me, 40 people behind me, sigh of relief.
Bernie and I and Denny under the first will walk through.
We get into the lobby of Church Street, which is a glass lobby, wide open, and it looks like he went from bad to worse.
You look outside and it looked like... I know this is maybe a silly comparison, but it looked like...
The Wizard of Oz, it looked like the hurricane in The Wizard of Oz with the things flying through the street.
And all of a sudden, one of our most experienced police officers, a guy with a black belt and tough as nails, comes in.
His whole face is beaten up.
He looks frightened as hell.
And he says, it's awful out there.
I said, man, you better not go out there.
It's awful out there.
They've got people lying on the ground.
They're getting hit.
They're getting smashed.
You said this thing isn't stopping.
I guess the building was still coming down in certain ways and driving this through.
The canyons were also probably helping to make it more forceful.
So we had to make a decision.
Do we stay in the building?
Or do we go out and the building now is shaking?
And Bernie and Danny and I, I don't remember who contributed what to the conversation, but the joint conversation was, if we stay in the building, what's the big risk of each?
Big risk of staying in the building is we all can die.
I lose 50.
The city loses four of its top five deputy mayors.
It loses not only the chief of the police department, Of course, the chief of the police department went with us, but also the commissioner and the deputy commissioner.
I mean, that's like about 90 years of police experience.
I mean, they were really great.
We had about four or five of Tommy's top people with us.
We already knew we had lost some of our top people.
We knew for sure we were going to lose some.
With the building coming down, my God, I don't know how much of my fire department I had lost, but now I would lose more of it.
Plus, my deputy mayor for operations, who is an expert on all the buildings in the city,
uh... my deputy mayor for transportation who was going to be critical to being able to get people to move around the city because you can't do magic and I decided very quickly we're going to go outside because if we go outside and I don't know how I made this decision without any emotion but afterwards when I thought back on it I said wow the decision I made was some of us will get killed if we go outside but not all of us So a big chunk will survive.
And we actually discussed it.
And we've discussed it afterwards many, many times.
And none of us had any emotion about it.
It was a discussion like, should I move my glasses from here?
And would they be safer here?
Well, they wouldn't be safe either place, but they'd be a little safer here.
So we went outside.
I took the press with me.
That's where I held my first press conference.
They weren't sure they wanted to come, and I told them the same thing.
I said, hey, you're in a building, you could crash out there.
We got a shot.
They said, well, if you let us stay close to you, we all of a sudden became friends.
Elon Musk is unusual.
- So.
What makes you say that this time?
He has just tweeted out the following.
Oh boy.
Salted butter is amazing, but it should be stored at room temperature.
Okay, Elon.
I'm not sure that's going to get us closer to Mars, but it's interesting.
It's interesting.
All right, so... I actually agree with that.
Oh, do you want the mics on or off?
Off.
I'm going to do Israel at the top here.
Yep.
Oh, and you want the Lindau clip up right away, so you have it tight on mine.
Yes.
How the FBI ambushed Mike Lindell.
Yeah.
Oh, Mike Lindell, colon, how I was ambushed by the, and put it in quotes, how I was ambushed by the FBI.
Yes.
Ambushed by the FBI.
Uh, and then come in.
I'm going to use cut five, but I'll do Israel first.
So I'll do Israel.
I'll tee up cut five and then I'll go to Sloan.
Okay.
Israel tee up cut five and then the guest.
All right.
And she's on the line.
We have two and a half minutes.
Hey Sloan.
Turn the mics off, Alex.
Okay.
Thank you.
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We need to fight the crazies at every level in America.
Take back the Republic one school board at a time.
Somebody who describes herself on her Twitter feed as a critical race theory killer is doing just that.
Sloane Rackmuth, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Dr. G. It's great to be here again.
Yes, I am a CRT killer and now I'm a child grooming lobby killer.
Let me tell you what's going on in North Carolina.
We have a very influential PAC here that is dedicated to getting every Democrat up and down the ballot from school board all the way up to Senate elected.
It's called Equality NC.
So these guys are actually paying for and then Forcing onto towns these child drag shows that nobody in the towns want.
And in a couple of months they're actually sponsoring a childhood sterilization and mutilation conference with Wake Forest Medical School.
Some of the things on the agenda are youth puberty blockers and get this, childhood sex change operations.
As I said, it's a very A powerful pack here in North Carolina.
They have their own lobbyists, three of them actually, who spend an inordinate amount of time in the statehouse.
What they really are is a childhood grooming lobby and we're going to stop them.
All right, so you have this Education First Alliance that's pushing back, endorsing great America First candidates, but tell us who's behind this truly demonic child mutilation, child sterilization, transgender extremism.
Who's behind it?
What are the PACs?
Give us some names.
What are the organizations?
Well, the organization here is called Equality NC, but this is part of a large national group called Equality.
So I want everyone in every state that's listening now, go look and see if you have like an equality Florida or Colorado or wherever.
I'll bet you you do.
Go look and see who's in charge there and what they're sponsoring.
Again, childhood drag shows.
Check.
They're not only paying for these, they're forcing them onto towns that have already said no, not for us, not in our town.
Look and see the medical conferences they're involved with and also look and see If their tentacles reach into our classrooms, because I'll bet you that they do.
Every Democrat, to your point, we do name names.
You know me, I'll name some names.
So, we're naming all the Democrats who are being proudly sponsored by them.
Sherry Beasley, who's running for Senate against our great Ted Budd.
We're also looking at school board members.
Now look, this group isn't sponsoring a lot of school board members, but the ones that they are, we are putting on blast here in Wake County.
Which is the 16th biggest school system in the country, the number one in our state.
Two out of the nine candidates who are running are backed by Equality NC.
Here we have a direct link between child mutilization and lawmakers.
We can't have that.
Yeah, my contention is, and we've only got a few seconds left, that this is going to be the issue that's going to red pill and wake up most Americans, even those who don't see themselves as political.
When you come after children, when you mutilate them, when you sterilize them, I think that wakes everybody up.
I would guess you concur, Sloan.
Absolutely.
Look, pictures say a lot.
I want everybody to go onto TikTok.
Find these trans social media influencers.
These are children who are very disturbed, but they've been taken in by this grooming.
Screenshot a few pictures.
I want you to show your people that are naysayers in your community, show them what happens at the end phase of this child grooming.
You're going to see girls, 11 and 12 year old girls with spars from one side of their ribcage to the other.
This is This is irrevocable.
And they're celebrating it.
They are celebrating their own mutilation.
This is psychopathy.
This is a psychosis.
Follow this lady at Sloan Rackmuth on Twitter.
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Mics are up.
So.
Stop the left child mutilation.
Yep.
Child mutilation.
Okay.
Still exporting the Lindell video.
Five minutes or so.
Two minutes.
Is he phone or Skype?
He's phone.
Okay.
Hey, it's Jeff.
It's special.
Good.
I'm going to put you on hold.
Just remember, he talks to you in the break.
So we're live on the road.
We're on the road.
Sorry.
Yep.
He knows Mike's alive.
90 seconds.
He's here.
Hey, John, I'm going to ask you about this, you know, election rolls thing you're working on, but also the, the credit card gun purchasing thing.
Okay.
Yeah, sure.
No, of course.
Okay.
All right.
Stand by.
Just over a minute ago.
- Yep. - Not coming in with anything?
Uh, I should.
Uh, coming in with five.
Biden screaming.
Alright, coming in with five.
No liner, Alex?
No liner.
No liner?
Alright, 40 seconds. 30. 30.
Okay.
We just have to remember who we are.
We are the United States of America.
There is nothing, nothing, nothing we've ever set our mind to.
Nothing that we've not been able to accomplish.
Nothing beyond our capacity.
And to just remember who we are.
We stand together.
There's nothing beyond our capacity.
In the White House, that was supposed to be the party celebrating the Inflation Reduction Act, or is it Increasing Act?
Mr. G, why do you think that Biden was so angry yesterday?
Did he maybe see the My Son Hunter movie?
What could it be?
Maybe he saw the stock market ticker right on the screen that kept going further and further down as he celebrated the Inflation Act.
You mean like the 1,200 point crash, that one?
Biggest in two years.
Yeah, yeah.
They're celebrating that.
Yeah, if you have a 401k, I don't think you're celebrating anything.
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Maybe he's angry because we're cottoning on to what they're going to try and do in the next election to steal that one.
Somebody who's getting to the bottom of it all is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, John Lott.
Dr. Lott, welcome back to America First.
Well, it's great to talk to you again, Seb.
Thanks for having me on.
Now, we are the greatest nation on God's green earth.
We are the only nation to put a man on the moon.
Actually, we did it six times.
We put 12 men on the moon.
Shouldn't it be relatively easy for us to have efficient and accurate polling data and election records in America?
You would think so.
We tried to do what I thought was a very simple goal, and that was just to match the number of people listed as voting with the number of ballots cast in different precincts across the country.
We looked at the November 2020 election because under federal law, counties and state election bureaus are required to keep all relevant data for 22 months after the election.
But what we found, we looked at 14 swing states, the 100 most populous counties in those states.
And what we found was that 94 of those 100 counties couldn't tell you how many people actually voted.
They did not have a list of who actually voted in the election.
Apparently, what happened was, you think of it this way, you have like an Excel file.
And you start updating it, but rather than saving it under a separate name, you just re-save it over the old file that you had.
And so you cannot go back and figure out what the original list that you had was.
There were six counties, only six counties, that actually claimed that they had the list of people who actually voted on November 3rd, 2020.
And there were huge differences there.
Let me just, I have in front of me some of the information that your colleagues garnered.
Cobb County in Georgia had a discrepancy between the numbers of voters recorded and the numbers of ballots cast of eight, almost nine percent.
The discrepancy was 94,000 votes in one county.
Did I read that right, John?
It's 34,000 counties in one place, and virtually all of that is you had precincts where you had more ballots counted than you had people listed as voting, even though the county claims that that was their complete list.
of people who voted.
Which means what?
What are the possible scenarios?
Let's be scientific here.
Does it mean that the voter roll is fatally flawed or does it mean that we've got people voting multiple times or people voting who aren't allowed to vote?
Well, those can be even more problems.
What this just gets at is there's a couple of possibilities.
Either one, You may have heard the accusations that they counted ballots that they had multiple times.
They simply fed them through the machine more than once.
That would give you more ballots counted than people listed as voting.
It could also be, you know, in cases where you have the opposite happen, more people listed as voting than ballots being counted, that the possibility is ballots were destroyed or lost someplace after they were turned in.
But the other possibility, the third possibility, is that none of these counties actually have a list of who voted.
You know, not just the 94 who say that, you know, they acknowledge to us that they didn't keep the list, but also even the six that claim that they have the list may not actually be able to tell you who actually voted All right.
Find out more at crimeresearch.org.
That's crimeresearch.org.
Nobody can tell you who voted.
All right.
Find out more at crimeresearch.org.
That's crimeresearch.org.
And at John's Twitter feed, which is at John R. Lott Jr.
Last minute we've got with you.
You're the expert on gun control in America.
The Second Amendment.
You've written the seminal work, More Guns, Less Crime.
Talk to us about the latest devious plot.
So Visa and MasterCard are going to segregate and categorize any transaction which involves their customers buying a gun, John?
Or ammunition.
We already know that the Biden administration has put together a national registry where they've recorded almost a billion transactions involving guns.
The problem for them is a lot of those are not recent transactions.
They have 54 million transactions from 2021, but they don't have all the most recent transactions.
And so what I believe is happening here is that they've essentially pressured the credit card companies to help fill in the gaps for the most recent transactions that they have.
They claim that this is some way that they can use to identify mass public shooters before they happen.
But what are they going to do?
I mean, 57 percent of mass public shooters used only one gun, another 26 percent.
So you're going to look for people who used one gun in an attack, who bought one gun or bought two guns?
Are they going to look for people that bought 200 bullets or something like that?
It's an end run.
You are not allowed to maintain a register of firearms owners in America.
That is illegal.
This is how they want to get around it, by using private companies to do their dirty work.
Thank you, John, for telling us the truth about these crucial issues, election integrity and gun control in America.
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How they'll, quote, quote-unquote, register all guns.
See, if the GOP took a point or two from this hour... Can somebody grab the phones?
Jeff, Jeff's handling the phone.
We're getting inundated.
Call board is exploding.
If the GOP just copied what you just did for an hour now, the oppression of Trump allies, transgenderism, voter fraud, gun control.
If all that was their message from now till November, they would win in a landslide.
I think you're probably right.
But they won't.
Of course they won't.
Because we still got Romney's niece in there.
Alright, you can block.
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Thank you.
Who wrote that article, Andrew?
Yes, some guy who does occasional commentary.
Hmm.
Oh, yeah. yeah.
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Line one, Joy in Atlanta.
Joy, welcome to America First.
Ah, yes, thanks.
It's actually Joyce, and I love listening to you, and I am a MAGA person.
I live in Fulton County in Atlanta, Georgia, where they had the problem with the polling.
I cannot believe nobody is talking about that.
I watched the news that night after they send workers home.
No, no, no, of course he's aware of it.
One of the biggest things in the election was the CCTV footage of them pulling the suitcases from under the table.
to testify and I emailed him because I don't think he was even aware of it.
No, no, no, no, no.
Of course he's aware of it.
One of the biggest things in the election was the CCTV footage of them pulling the suitcases from under the table.
Of course he knew, Rudy knew.
Because I emailed him and the next day they went ahead and they asked Governor Kemp that he has to testify.
So, I mean, it is terrible that it's never even discussed.
Yeah, he's a disaster.
Stay on the line, Joyce.
Let's give her a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
Let's go to line three.
Let's squeeze in one more called Judy from Butler, Pennsylvania.
Hi, thanks for taking my call.
Yes.
I just wanted to pass along that I have just called my local bank that issues my Visa card, and I have called Visa, and I have told them that I will be cancelling it and why, and I'm hoping that a lot of other people will do the same thing.
I love it, and you cancel it because?
Well, I haven't cancelled it yet.
I've got to clear out those purchases, but what they're doing with the gun purchase Yep.
Well, God bless you.
That's how we win.
That's how we win.
They want to use our credit cards as a way of registering our firearms or preventing us from buying weapons and exercising our Second Amendment rights.
Well, that's what you do.
You call up your bank and you say, But no thanks.
Let's do a little bit of research.
Let's find out which credit cards are not part of this ploy.
We know Visa and Mastercard are.
We've got to find out if there are companies that are not giving in to the fascists in the Biden administration.
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Don't touch that dial.
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Don't touch that dial.
of what black life was like.
Some of them look pretty prosperous.
Divine Providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
They had integrity.
That's what black people were.
We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
We were raised to love America.
Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus.
Hundreds of statues have been vandalized.
You see people trying to rewrite history.
The American people know these names have to go.
Why is that?
Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black, and to hate themselves.
Y'all better, my friend!
There is no country in this world that a black person would rather be.
Unless, of course, they grow up in this country.
You broke the contract with me for 400 years!
Then, they're fed a lie that is so deceptive.
The reason that that lie exists is power.
There are certain people who are using the Negro in order to establish that power in Washington.
And the Negro is just merely a pawn in a game that's bigger than he is.
He doesn't seem overly concerned, so, um... I'd be pretty scared if, like, three cars just surrounded my car.
I'd be scared, too.
Like, what is this, a mafia hit?
But the way he told the story, he's like, is anybody gonna arrest me?
Is anybody, you know, you wanna arrest me?
Two minutes, by the way.
Alright, and we have you.
There I am.
Thank you, Mike.
Hey Jen, this employee who overdosed, was it because they touched the fentanyl?
Just looked inside the bottle and they had to administer Narcan and the 13 year olds carrying it around with them.
Both of those stories, they were carrying around the fentanyl and Percocet bottles, so that seems to be some weird new connection.
Kids are looking for Percocet.
90 seconds.
Incredible.
I hear it's pretty hot in California.
Hot, and then it just poured rain and flooded a bunch of people out of the Inland Empire.
It's been crazy.
We're not used to weather, but now it's beautiful today.
It's like 82.
It's perfect.
I heard it was a monsoon, right?
Back to normal.
Yeah, well, it was actually a hurricane that broke up and became a tropical storm, so we never get that.
I was going to say, yeah, that's quite unusual.
But there were people, I had a listener who sent me his daughter's house, and the garage was wiped out by a mudslide.
So it was pretty intense.
Green energy, ladies and gentlemen.
That's right.
Keep it coming, please.
30 seconds.
Wanna come in with anything, sub?
No.
Alrighty.
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Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Welcome back, dear friends.
Celebrating... Celebrating...
The state of the economy?
And how divided the nation is?
That's exactly what they were doing in the White House yesterday.
Why is this happening?
How is it possible?
I'm gonna go for a sanity check with our West Coast Warrior Princess, host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590, The Answer.
Jennifer Horne, welcome back to America First!
Don't you love having parties, even when it rains, in the economy or whatever?
They just bring out James Taylor and let him go.
It's a celebration.
So, James Taylor.
Okay, you just stole my thunder.
You're a mind reader.
I didn't even know James Taylor was still alive.
They rolled him out again and I immediately thought of, what, the guy that embarrassed the whole of the United States when John Kerry goes to Paris after the terrorist attack and then they roll out Okay, just play it.
Just play that cut.
This is cut 13.
A little reminder of the last time they did this.
You just call out my name and you'll know wherever I am, I'll come running to see you again.
They did it before once and it was a disaster.
I mean, how out of touch are these people, Jen?
The messaging is so bad.
You know my background is in public relations and it kills me.
Even though I am not rooting for the Biden administration, I am not on their side, but their messaging is so bad.
I just want to fix it.
You have the administration going out there holding a party when literally their Inflation Reduction Act has done nothing.
The inflation rate was 8.5% in July.
It's 8.3% in August.
Big deal.
So instead of noticing maybe we better tamp down the celebration or change our messaging about what will happen, they gaslight America, making you think it already has.
Nancy Pelosi's asking people to applaud for her, which also seems to be... She just did it again!
Who is giving her my cut sheet?
Who is giving Jennifer Horne my cut sheet on the sly?
So here she is.
This reminds me of a certain Romanian dictator's wife, Elena Ceausescu.
Listen to what Nancy Pelosi says.
This is in the White House yesterday as they're celebrating indebting us for generations to come and not having baby formula on the shelves cut for.
Mr. President, thank you for unifying and inspiring a vision of a stronger, fairer, safer future for all.
Your extraordinary leadership has made this glorious day possible.
That's an applause line.
You will applaud now!
It also reminded me of Jeb Bush, remember?
Like the least charismatic speaker of all time.
It's bad when you have to remind people to clap, Seb.
They're all daydreaming.
And doesn't it seem like the White House resembles an old folks home now?
You've got James Taylor perched on some sort of bench.
Pelosi's dentures are whistling back and forth.
You've got Biden wondering what day it is, telling people that there's no inflation.
It's a madhouse.
But then you get Chuck Schumer, who thinks that he's like Diplo or something, and he comes out and he goes, New York's in the house.
Anybody in New York?
I mean, he's acting like he's a DJ.
It's crazy town over there.
And then to add a little salt in the wounds, after they gaslight America and say there's no inflation and everything's going great, we gotcha, and by the way, green energy, green energy, green energy, Biden gets on his big private plane, Air Force One, and he flies home because he forgot to vote in the election?
Forget the economic impact.
That's over $200,000 of our taxpayer dollars probably spent in that little jaunt home so he could cast his ballot.
But my goodness, the footprint, the green energy.
Where's John Kerry?
Is he not going to be guilt tripping the president for that one?
But it's okay, because Nancy told us that thanks to Biden, America is, quote, stronger, fairer, and safer.
So all the videos we're seeing of crime rampant in Democrat cities like New York, the fairer, when the working class plumbers are paying for the master's degrees in, what is it, intersectionality, Jen?
Yeah.
They have no compunction.
Do they know they're lying?
I don't, I think that they must, but it's evil.
I mean, as they're celebrating, and James Taylor is singing his folk rock on his stool, you've got people who on average, if you have just a regular old retirement investment portfolio, they say on average people lost like $14,000 yesterday while the Dow was crashing down at their party.
I mean, it's just, it is tone deaf.
And so if it's not gaslighting, maybe it's ineptitude, but I think it's purposeful.
Ineptitude.
I think these people just don't care.
They are so arrogant because they have the news media working for them.
They have the FBI and the Department of Justice working behind them.
They can create any narrative that they want.
And honestly, only conservative media and media sources like ours, Seb, are calling this stuff out.
All right, well, let's focus, let's drill down on that question of arrogance and how the media covers for them.
So there was this person who was described as Mueller's pitbull.
In fact, he's the guy that really ran the Mueller probe.
He was disgraced for what he did with A certain prosecution prior to that.
His name is Andrew Weissman.
And this guy's always been in the background.
He's been persecuting Americans using the FBI and the DOJ.
And now, what does it mean, Jen, that he's giving interviews like this, and he's just cracking jokes about the man who they just raided the home of?
This is Cut Ten, Andrew Weissman.
What do you think about when you think about a department of justice in a Trump second term?
How do you think of that?
I think I've said this before.
I think of that that I don't have enough alcohol in my apartment to deal with that because there clearly would not be a rule of law.
So this is a guy that never gave interviews for four years, and now he is.
After they've raided Mar-a-Lago, after they've rifled through Barron's bedroom, after the FBI ambushed Mike Lindell at a drive-thru fast food restaurant, they're more confident than they've ever been, Jane.
Because nobody's pushing back.
You have these people.
And by the way, MSNBC, not that it wasn't always just a garbage news channel, it's the bottom of the garbage can now.
It is awful.
They've been empowered.
I don't know if it's CNN trying to, you know, re-find their center again or whatever CNN's trying to do.
But MSNBC is... I try to listen to it, just so, as Larry Elder says, our listeners don't have to.
I try.
And it is infuriating because it is all...
Fake news, it's all laughing and snickering and making jokes just like that when you know that these people are seriously so in this safe space, Seb, where they feel like they are not going to be challenged because they have the fix in.
Meanwhile, people like Mike Lindell are getting their lives tossed apart.
By the FBI.
I mean, if you're listening to this on your radio right now, watch out.
Maybe the FBI is going to come for your radio next because they have to confiscate all of this nasty naysaying by conservatives.
I don't know what to say because I like to be optimistic about our country and our country's future.
But truly, if you think that this upcoming election and the one after that, the presidential election, are not the most consequential elections of our life, we have to start regaining control and sanity of this country.
We are close to being lost.
And I love this country, and you love this country, but when you have an FBI that runs wild, and you have a news media that doesn't dare question it, and you have an administration who is giving the directives on this, we're no better than some of those other countries that people are trying to flee from to come here.
I never want to be a downer for Jan Horn because she is our happy warrior out on the West Coast.
So let's cheer her up a little bit.
There's a comedian called Jim Norton.
Jeff, whose show was she on?
Was Jim on?
Oh yes, it was Gutfeld.
So let's play this little cut, a little light-hearted interjection.
Cut nine.
You know, it's this whole... Look, domestic terrorism, alright, yeah, it's gotta be addressed.
But let's have an honest conversation about it.
Like, I'd much rather have my pilot yell, let's go Brandon, than Allahu Akbar.
That joke deserved applause.
Oh, I totally agree.
That's the way you ask for applause after you get a little bit of a titter.
I prefer my pilot to say, let's go Brandon, than Allahu Akbar.
You always gotta have, you know, the stance of a happy warrior, correct?
Always.
And even when things get deep and dark and kind of sad, you always have to remember that our country was worth fighting for before and it's worth fighting for again.
We can't give up.
We have to.
We have to be the ones who come out on this on top.
And so you just keep that sense of optimism.
And I'll tell you what, Let's Go Brandon makes me think of just how different we are than the UK.
Did you see that guy who yelled out at Prince Andrew that you're like a dirty old man?
He was arrested.
Yes.
Did you see that?
Yes.
Can you imagine if the same rule of law applied in this country?
Holy smokes.
We haven't even mentioned it today that the Queen has left Buckingham Palace for the last time.
She has been taken to the Abbey to lie in state so the British people can file past her prior to the funeral.
So thank you for reminding us.
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I haven't even discussed Danchenko.
I know, that was a big story too.
Huge.
Alright, we'll discuss your stories next.
More FBI fun.
How you doing?
You seem a little down in the...
No.
You okay?
No, just got a lot on my mind.
I've got filming this weekend and I've got two more episodes, three more episodes of scripts to go through tonight.
Oh my gosh.
But it's all good.
How cool though.
It's all good stuff.
It's all good.
It's all good.
Yeah.
I was exchanging some texts with your lovely wife today, so we have some updates she'll tell you about.
Okay, I hope they're good.
Yeah.
What was that, Eric?
I was just gonna say, text you something real quick, Seb, about tonight after the show.
Okay, got it.
Yep.
Part A at Eric's house, that's what he said.
No, no, no, Sean Spicer interview.
Yep.
Um, okay.
Uh, yeah, it's a 5.10.
Well, we have been promoting you coming to California a lot this week.
Good!
Town Hall.
How big do you think it's gonna be?
This one's going to be huge.
Did you hear who's coming?
I mean, it's everybody again, but even more so.
So it's going to be you and Dennis, Charlie, Levin, Larry's coming back, and Officer Tatum.
So it's going to be a big stage.
Oh, on that note then, I figure I might as well let you know, Jen, because I'm sure you're familiar with the California Republican Assembly, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, CRA.
They had invited Seb to speak at their next convention in April, I believe.
So, Seb was asking who they are, because I attended the last convention, but I don't know too much about them, but I figured you could probably... They're a good group.
Yeah, they're a good group.
Where's their event?
Where's their convention?
They didn't say where yet.
They didn't say where.
I feel like they do it... They might do it in San Diego or... Well, the last one was in Anaheim.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's right.
I went... They have some pretty... Actually, they have some pretty good speakers.
I think... The last time I was there, Huckabee was there.
Oh, nice!
Who else?
I didn't go last year.
I think because it was around the time of Don's funeral, so I think I passed, but... Yeah.
The one I went to, I think they had Larry Elder and also John Eastman.
Yeah, I don't think he'll be there.
He's been laying low.
He used to be on Salem all the time.
I wonder why Larry's coming back.
Because he misses us.
Oh, there you go.
Good answer.
One minute.
He does.
He tells me.
He tells me.
He's going to be busy with his presidential campaign.
I know.
So someone on our team definitely is a leaker, then, because Jen correctly predicted two of our cuts.
I know.
We have a leak.
We have a FBI CI in the team.
It's Jeff.
I bribed Jeff.
It's the most stone-faced member of the team.
It always is.
I just think we so think the same way.
I do, too.
That's so funny.
And we told the story in the same order.
You had the same cuts ready to go.
But that was, I mean, could you imagine?
What a disaster that is.
Closely begging for applause is just so great.
Ugh.
That's an applause line.
I think we should try that at Town Hall.
That's what's going on.
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Jennifer sent us from California, but we have such a packed hour before David Limbaugh joins us.
I have to play this cut from John Solomon who was on Fox yesterday because this is, along with Mike Lindell being ambushed by the FBI, this is the big story that broke yesterday as Devin Nunes opened our show.
This is the latest filing, the revelation from John Durham that the person who was the source for the fake Steele dossier that was used to spy on President Trump to get those FISA warrants Danchenko, the Russian working here at the Brookings Institute, a few miles away from this studio.
Guess what?
When Nunes found out this was all fraud, all a lie, the FBI tried to hide it by making him a confidential informant.
Listen to the great John Solomon.
Cut 12!
Yeah, listen, you hit the Danchenko thing right on the head.
Let's just think about this.
The primary source for the Christopher Steele dossier, which was funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign, is a person that the FBI believes, starting in 2008, was tied to Russian intelligence.
Why did they believe that?
Because they had evidence he was soliciting Obama administration appointees, saying he would pay them if they would leak him classified information.
He was working with the Russian intelligence agencies.
He leaves the country.
He comes back.
They find out that he's the primary source for Christopher Steele.
The FBI fires Christopher Steele because he was leaking to the media.
They then hire this guy to be a confidential human source.
They hire him after they detect in their first interview with him in many years, in January 17, that he lied to them, that he denied being tied to Russian intelligence.
They had to say, listen, buddy, we know you're tied to Russian intelligence.
He corrects himself then.
They then go and put this man on the payroll for three years trying to dig up dirt on Donald Trump.
It's an extraordinary thing.
And now we know that while he was doing all that work for the FBI, getting paid by American tax dollars, he was lying to the FBI, not once, not twice, five times in the indictment.
And John Durham says he's going to reveal many more lies that Igor Danchenko told the FBI during this time.
The FBI's case against the Russia collusion couldn't be any more embarrassing than what we now know.
Jen, just when we thought it couldn't get any more perverse, almost every day it seems that there's another bombshell.
Another bombshell.
And, you know, you mentioned Devin Nunes.
And, you know, we kind of forget because we're not seeing him every day in Congress anymore.
But do you remember how they tried to ruin Devin Nunes, how Adam Schiff went after him and called him all sorts of names and took aim at his credibility?
And it's just it's really it's a shame how many people got caught up in all of this.
But really what this boils down to is again the reason why we are not un-American.
We are not semi-fascist.
We are not crazy right wing extremists when we question the motivation of the FBI because there is more proof.
Again, another story that for three years during the Trump presidency, and there's no coincidence on the timing of that, that the FBI kept this guy, Denchenko, on the payroll, not just to have him dig up dirt, as John Solomon suggested, but also said to cover their own rear ends because they didn't want to uncover the ties between Denchenko and Christopher Wray.
So they protected themselves by paying this guy our money, and all he was doing was shoveling BS out of Russia.
I mean, come on.
Now, that's the key point for those who aren't familiar with this world.
The issue is as soon as they make him a paid informant of the FBI, they can say if anybody asks the question, if Congress asks the question, sorry, national security can't talk about it.
So this was an act to bury, bury the source of the Steele dossier so nobody would know it was all bogus or anything.
Alright, you're supposed to be talking California with us.
I always drag you into these national things because I want your take.
Some very disturbing stories out of the schools there.
But first, what is Newsom, what is Pelosi's nephew doing to California?
Is this going to be the baby-killing center of the known universe?
So he just took California taxpayer dollars and he launched a website abortion.ca.gov and essentially that website and I went on and looked at it it's disgusting it's written in such a way that it is easy for a 12 or 13 year old to understand what to do and it's set up to establish that California is a sanctuary state for those people seeking abortions.
Including minors, right?
And this is what's most disturbing, is that it specifically says on the website, if you are under the age of 18, there is no limitation for age to get an abortion in the state of California, which means that he's incentivizing these kids running away from their states if abortion is illegal which means that he's incentivizing these kids running away from their states if abortion is illegal without their parents' consent on the taxpayer dollar of California, because there are grants that you can apply
You're incentivizing these people to run away from home, these children, to get abortions without their parents knowing.
He's a father, Seb.
I don't understand how the left thinks—I mean, obviously we know what they're trying to do.
They're trying to destroy the nuclear—right?
That is the far left's vision for what this country needs to look like.
They don't like the family.
They don't like religion.
They don't like all of that.
So they want to crush us.
And this is one way that they're doing it, by pulling control from parents over and over again.
This is a big decision for someone.
And if you are—I mean, We could go back and forth.
I'm a pro-life person.
But even if we're talking about the choice to have an abortion, you should consent to this at 18, when you are an adult, when you are able to make decisions on your own.
There is no way that your 12-year-old should be going to California.
Beyond that, it shouldn't be the job of the state to encourage abortion.
And not even your own state, the state of California, to encourage the abortion of your 12-year-old.
It's really sick and it's disturbing.
And if you look at most—I think the thing that got me is if you look at most government websites in California, they are written to confuse people because they do not want transparency.
If you read abortion.ca.gov, I am telling you right now, it's a children's book.
If you need help to get an abortion, click here.
If you are under the age of 18, click here.
It is so simple because they are trying to incentivize this behavior.
My co-host, Grant Stinchfield, who I know filled in last week for you, was calling this serial killers, basically.
You're bringing people to California to just kill their kids.
This is what you're incentivizing.
But for me, it's far more serious.
It's these little children, these 13-year-old girls who are going to hop a plane by themselves to make a really big medical decision that's going to impact their entire future.
Just translating it down to the bare facts of the matter, one of the largest states, one of the richest states, a state with a budget comparable to other countries, is targeting juveniles, is targeting young girls with the aim of having their unborn child killed.
That is For a radio host, it's not good to be speechless, but that is truly, truly diabolical.
That's not what any government at any level should be doing.
All right, I'm going to post the other stories we didn't get time to talk about.
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Dave Brat, welcome back.
Hey, great to be on, Zeb.
Thanks for having me.
So talk to us about what happened yesterday to the stock market.
It's got to be bigger than just the consumer price index and inflation, doesn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yesterday I think was historical for a couple reasons I'll get at.
One, and it's coming out, there's a nice article out today, let me see if I can, I should have had the link, marketwatch.com.
And there's been a lot of traffic out there on the web and YouTube on sovereign debt crises.
And so yesterday I think lit the fuse there, right?
I think the Fed, like the maestro back Greenspan, they were fine-tuning.
They thought they were way more clever and more ingenious.
Than they really were in the past.
Before we go back to the history, just because, you know, we've got millions of listeners, explain what is sovereign debt?
Who has it and why is it such a touchy issue?
Yeah, yeah.
Well, so that's the U.S.
debt, but China's got a sovereign debt problem.
It just refers to the country's own debt.
Then the European community altogether has the worst of it, right?
They have huge sovereign debt crises getting ready to collapse.
You usually think of Argentina and some of these countries.
Greece, most notable about a decade ago or so, have ongoing issues.
But now the United States has issues.
And you can see that, right?
The Fed was more than willing to accept higher inflation, right?
So yesterday, huge inflation.
It's continuing at a high level.
And so it sent shockwaves to the stock market, right?
The Dow went down 1,200 points.
Most of the markets went down over 4%.
And the Dow came close to 30,000.
I don't really get into the technical analysis stuff, but that is a marker that's in play.
But why?
What happened yesterday that's special, Dave?
Yeah.
The Fed thought they might get a little lucky, right?
They thought they might be able to walk this tightrope and get off.
And yesterday, it was kind of like incoming fire, right?
Oh, this thing's way worse.
Inflation's way worse.
It's staying longer.
It's way higher than we thought.
And so why the sovereign debt piece?
Well, they would let inflation go on you, right, the middle class, and you can pound sand, right, and pay higher prices.
And if you run inflation, you pay back the debt with cheaper dollars.
So they're fine with that.
But and this is kind of shocking.
I think what they were missing is as interest rates go up like they have right for a mortgage has gone from two and a half percent to six percent.
So rates are all up three percent and they got to pay that extra on 30 trillion dollars in debt.
Right.
So this all of a sudden came into fine relief yesterday.
And so the sovereign debt story is all over the place right now.
And then, you know, the real estate markets, everybody's waiting to see, you know, do this inflation report.
What's the next, you know, Bear Stearns or Lehman moment?
It probably won't be the same, you know, financial crisis this time.
But there will be shoe that drops and it's probably going to be related to real estate again and the hedge funds.
Anyone that was locked into the old regime of, you know, zero percent interest rates for a decade.
So meaning, you know, one or two percent they're paying.
Now there's a shocker, right?
Deals are seizing up all over.
It's over.
Right.
The hedge funds not only have to get out and make some money that they promised, then they got to sell the deal at the end of, you know, three or four years out in the future, locked into zero percent interest rates.
Now the interest rates are way higher due to inflation.
And so that's the story that's coming in.
And there's no getting around it now, right?
Because you got stagnation and inflation simultaneously.
And so they thought they were going to get lucky or maybe walk a tightrope.
And the cynical thing here is, Everybody knew this coming.
We can't pay back the $30 trillion in debt.
The elites know full well that's true.
So they're just maximizing returns in the short run, trying to make $20-$30 billion, whatever they need for their family.
I want to dig a little bit deeper here.
I'm fascinated why you think it's going to burst first in real estate.
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Dave, who's the most fragile when it comes to sovereign debt?
Oh, what?
I mean, Europe, I think.
They've got anemic growth, energy problems, right?
I mean, just imagine doing business there right now, writing long term contracts on anything.
Everything's going to seize up.
And then what about China?
How fragile are they?
Well, no one really knows.
There's that China beige book I try to follow.
That's about as good as you get.
But I don't see how they don't collapse.
I mean, anyone with a brain in the U.S.
now is pulling their supply chains back.
They got cocky.
They're getting aggressive.
And man, if you can't see the writing on the wall there, it's... But who's going to fill the vacuum in supply chain?
Who's got capacity?
We don't.
No, no.
Well, I mean, what's his name?
Peter, the demographer.
Zeehan.
Mexico.
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Oh yeah, I know Zeehan, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Mexico, South America is going to be our new best buddy.
Big and then India's neutral, you know, they'll absorb some of it Africa.
I'm hoping right they got six million.
Yeah, but that's gonna take years years I know.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, well it Will I I mean we'll see this this China thing is it's staggering to me how we made Such errors there and how this unfolds.
No one knows I blame Kissinger.
He started it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah started it All right.
Yeah, I'm gonna play a cop And then, uh, we're gonna talk about what they're celebrating in the White House.
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Dave Brat, Professor Brat, You said your suspicion is the next thing to drop, the next shoe to fall is going to be in real estate.
I am a layman.
I tend to think you're right, but already in the last 14 days we've seen a cooling.
The market is definitely cooling when it comes to real estate.
It's not the insanity of the last two years.
Why do you think it's going to be real estate again?
And what do you think it's going to look like?
Is it going to be like those junk packages that collapsed 12-14 years ago?
What's your expectation?
Yeah, I think we put in some hedges there for the worst cases from the financial crisis of 07-08 on the real estate.
I don't expect the exotic stuff.
But it's just a matter of leverage, right?
The folks that the hedge funds and the folks in real estate that really lever themselves up expecting, you know, the golden times to keep rolling on and to making this, you know, continuous short-term bets that things are going to keep going great, great, great, great, great.
Everybody knew the wheels were going to fall off at some time, right?
We've all known this for a decade.
Back when you had 20 trillion in debt, it was unfathomable.
from just a rational perspective.
And so real estate, I mean, just the folks who are levered up the most, and then the folks who have, you know, multiple year contracts, where the terms of trade have just changed massively in the last few days.
It looks like there is a new, you know, semi-permanent shock to the system that's going to affect economic decisions for a year at least.
And that, you know, most of these Banking real estate deal making things are all short run and and they're based on a percentage or two So, you know if you're if you if you're a you know, I we need to make 6% Yeah, and that's our proposition to folks and you just got clipped by 3% yesterday, right?
Or just you know over the last year with interest rates going up 3% Well now you're at a 3% margin with nothing else that can go wrong and then you throw in supply-side shocks and Food and energy costs and all that.
You're in for a doozy of a ride.
All right, well, let's broaden the aperture.
You're not just a professor.
You're not just an expert in economics.
You've actually served this nation in Congress.
This was yesterday in the White House, celebrating the state of the economy.
This is the Speaker of the House, Cutforth.
Mr. President, thank you for unifying and inspiring a vision of a stronger Fair, safer future for all.
Your extraordinary leadership has made this glorious day possible.
That's an applause line.
So, I mean, just so creepy.
That's an applause line.
As somebody who served in the swamp, do they believe this stuff?
Do they believe that we are stronger, safer, economically more stable, Professor?
No, I mean, some of them are utopians.
There's a few that are out on utopia land, the vast majority.
And I sat with all the Democrats.
I was friendly with everybody.
And no, they don't believe it.
And they'll tell you behind closed doors.
And, you know, especially on the economic stuff, it's just all messaging.
And then, you know, the troubling part is it's not just them, but all the major news media yesterday.
I mean, all of it.
They were still cheerleading, right?
Don't worry.
There's nothing to fear here.
Buy the dips.
Don't get worried about this kind of stuff.
I mean, it was truly shocking.
And also, the economists are all missing in action as well.
The American Economic Association still requiring masks at their upcoming meetings.
So that gives you a little sense of the top Princeton, MIT, Harvard economists and their political sensibilities.
And they still have to bow before these kind of political tests of allegiance.
Otherwise, you don't get any published papers.
So all the economists, the mainstream folks, you don't need to be high-level economists to weigh in on these things.
This is just basic macro, basic supply and demand stuff.
And they're absent.
So it's a travesty for character in America.
The folks with true character are getting few and far between.
And do they just think that, for some reason, because, I don't know, they're rich enough, that they'll be isolated from a crash when it comes, Dave?
Yeah, the super wealth, I mean, they're just playing a short-run game, right?
The folks way up at the top, you know, They've all been doing short-run market earnings.
Earnings forecasts are supposed to be infinitely out into the future, and then discounted back to the present.
Well, everybody knows that's not true.
Most everyone's looking out five years max, and that would be long run.
Some of these firms are just looking out a couple quarters, and then the CEOs and whatever know, hey, if I make a major clearing here and make a ton of money in one or two years at the top of the ship, I'm gold, and my kids are gold, and I'm out of here.
And they're selling out the country, right?
I mean, it's an amazing moral story that will be written, you know, hopefully, once we see this in the rearview mirror.
Given that the midterms look good for the Republicans in the House, does that mean that some of the economic policy insanity can be reined in because the House has the purse strings?
You served there.
Is there some room for maneuver?
Well, that depends on the degree of backbone, but I didn't see a lot of that when I was up there.
It was a handful of people who would do the right thing.
And so, you know, trillion dollar deficits into the future are just locked in, even on our side.
I haven't seen, you know, I was shocked when I came in, 14, 16, 18, and my side of the aisle had no rational plan on paper for an agenda.
And I'm not making this up.
And foreign policy, we never talked about any of it, right?
We just subjugated that or delegated that to the White House because, you know, why would you take a risky position which might hurt your re-election chances if the country is in peril?
You know, let someone else deal with the risk there.
And we got to get re-elected.
And so, yeah, no, we've got major problems.
I'm hoping we do get leverage in the Senate, right?
So if we get tight enough there, Well, I love having you as a regular.
And so, you know, cutting down some of this abuse of the IRS, 80,000 agents, and you pick the top two or three things that you got to do, you know, some budget cap on spending that's sane could be negotiated for fairly easily if our side decides to negotiate. some budget cap on spending that's sane could be negotiated But I'm not too optimistic there.
Well, I love having you as a regular, the fact that you are giving real economic truths to the students at Liberty, but it'd be great to have you back in the swamp serving this nation there.
We'll work on that.
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So how do we tie up everything we said with a little cut of the issues we discussed with Dave Brat?
China!
Real estate market.
Sovereign debt.
Well, you won't believe John Kirby, that cretinous disgrace to the naval uniform who is now one of the press puppets at the White House.
He was asked a very important question.
What's this with China buying up real estate around US military bases?
What a useless cretin.
This is his response.
Cut 11!
known adversary in the case of China, foreign buyers are buying up U.S. real estate, in some case farms around military installations.
Is this on the administration's radar?
And what is being done perhaps to study this or to protect Americans from making sure that homes remain affordable and so on?
I think the question of home ownership is a little bit out of my swim lane.
The Press: What do you say national security issue, particularly when it comes to around military installations?
Mr. What I will tell you is that the President has been nothing but clear about our concerns about Chinese unfair trade practices and economic practices.
The Press: What do you think about?
I understand that, ma'am.
I'm probably not the right person to ask about home ownership here in the United States.
This is about buying up land around military installations.
Is that a concern to this administration?
Eric, when you played that, I thought the video had frozen.
He became like a statue, didn't he?
He didn't even blink for like the first 10 seconds.
He must be on the same meds that Biden's on.
You know, the unblinking meds or something.
Then he said, I'm the wrong person.
It's not in my swim lane.
Is that a phrase?
I know I'm an immigrant, but Jeff, is not in my swim lane.
Is that like a political phrase I missed for the last 51 years?
I don't even think it's a sports phrase.
I've never heard it.
And then he says, I'm not the expert on home ownership.
You cracked it!
It's not about home ownership!
It's about communist China buying land around US military bases!
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- Do you have video evidence?
- Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country. - What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
Two Thousand Mules.
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Stream, May 8th at Salem Now or Locals. - The good Lord does work in mysterious ways, especially when it comes to the tools he chooses, the people especially when it comes to the tools he chooses, the people here on Earth who help actually spread his If you read the Old Testament especially, and the New Testament, there are
Examples of fallen men and women who were chosen by God to be the vessels of His message and His grace.
And sometimes, even in politics, the strangest things can occur.
Here's a little clip from the March for Life.
I was there.
It was a very cold day here in Washington, D.C.
And the first All of us here today understand an eternal truth.
Republican president ever to address the March for Life.
Whilst he was president, was my former boss, President Trump.
All of us here today understand an eternal truth.
Every child is a precious and sacred gift from God.
Together, we must protect, cherish, and defend the dignity and the sanctity of every human life. - When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation.
Where has that language gone, the majesty of God's creation?
American politics used to be replete with biblical language.
Are we turning things around?
What is the state of this spiritual battle?
Let's talk to a man who's been fighting it for many, many years with his Jesus series of books.
brand new co-author.
It is David Limbaugh.
The book is The Resurrected Jesus, and his co-author is his daughter, Kristen Limbaugh.
David, Kristen, welcome to America First.
Thank you so much for having us.
So let's start with this, you know, who the Lord chooses to be his receptacles of his wisdom, his truth here on earth.
This This book focuses on Saint Paul and, what, six or seven of his key epistles.
Let's start with why did you choose an individual, a Roman citizen, a Jew who had persecuted Christians as the subject of your latest book, David?
Because he was Christianity's foremost evangelist, the least likely person to be such a central figure because he was a persecutor of Christians when they started.
But the real reason is because we These books, and this book in particular, is an examination of the seven epistles, the prison epistles that he wrote while he was under house arrest in Rome, four of those, and then the three pastoral epistles he wrote to his colleagues, his understudies, Timothy and Titus.
And we go through those chapter and verse, either stating the verse directly, verbatim, or paraphrasing it, then adding our insights, adding our own commentary.
Adding commentary from some of the greatest biblical scholars alive and already past.
And what we've done in this book is to add a new element, and that is prayer, interspersed throughout the text.
Because Kristen is, not to embarrass her, a spirit-filled prayer warrior.
She has a facility for prayer.
And I thought when I asked her to do this, in addition to enhancing the text proper, that her Adding these prayers and then me interacting with her too and editing them and adding a few of my own things would make this a combination Bible study and devotional and would allow the readers to interact with Scripture and with this book and get way more out of it than they otherwise would.
So I'm really excited to have brought her along in this project.
Well, Kristen, you have the heavy burden of the last name Limbaugh, your great-uncle Rush, your father who's written numerous, the Jesus on Trial, the seminal work, the Emmaus Code and others.
Tell us about this experience of being now a father and daughter writing team.
Walk us through what it was like to write the resurrected Jesus.
Well, I was thrilled when Dad invited me to be part of this process.
He's had so much success with his former books, and he's always encouraged me as a writer to put his money where his mouth is, so to speak, and bring me in.
His success was Truly humbling and the writing process was such a growing experience for me.
Dad is just a total machine when he writes and when he researches.
I mean, I've never seen anyone go through the amount of material that he does and come up with such a product that's so accessible to lay readers and people who are searching to deepen their faith and their understanding.
So we would talk on the phone every single day.
I live in Texas, he's in Missouri, so it was a lot of long phone calls, but we did the editing process together, we researched together and gave each other so much feedback, and really the whole thing was such a learning and enriching experience for me.
Right, David, let's set the scene.
This is very soon after Jesus' death, crucifixion, and resurrection.
It's hard to put ourselves in the position of the apostles and the disciples, given what Christianity would grow into.
And the fact that it actually took over the Roman Empire.
But what were the challenges?
Talk to us about what St.
Paul faced right at the beginning when he's trying to spread this message, not just to the Jewish community, but to Gentiles.
There were lots of problems, were there not?
And also, especially in the field of heresies.
Yes.
Well, he encountered difficulties inside and outside the church.
And he tells about his struggles and the adversities.
I think an encouraging thing about Christianity, and you alluded to it in your setup, it's not a book about perfect people.
The Bible writers, the New Testament writers, and the Old Testament, tell their warts and all, which I think makes it more believable.
Paul, even though he ends up being the foremost evangelist, had these issues himself, and he tells about the times he was whipped and beaten by the Roman authorities, by Jewish authorities, whatever, but he persisted, and he did it by relying on God, and he knew in the end
As to the heresy issue, Paul planted all these churches in the Mediterranean Basin and elsewhere, and as soon as he would plant them, he would teach the early Christians how to be pastors and how to be deacons and leaders in the church.
He'd set up the framework for leadership in the church, and he'd tell them correct doctrine.
Then he would leave and go to the next one, then he'd go to the next one.
Now, travel was slow, so it wasn't like there was any efficient way to do this.
After he had left, after some time, and he wrote these, I mean, he wrote these letters maybe even in the 30s or 40s, shortly, the same decade that Jesus died in, lived and died in.
And so very early, even before the Gospels, he wrote.
Even though they appear later in the Bible.
So he gets word that these early churches are deviating from correct scripture, from the doctrine.
False teachers have entered in.
It deeply troubles him.
It's not some magic thing just because God is behind his effort, which he obviously is.
We're human beings, and we're failed human beings, and we're subject to the temptations of the flesh, our internal sin nature, and from external forces.
So these false teachers came in and preached such things as, we have to add back Jewish rituals.
It's okay, you can have faith in Christ for salvation, but also it's necessary for you to be circumcised, or for you to follow the Jewish dietary laws.
Paul says emphatically not.
Salvation is by faith alone in Christ.
Fine with me if you want to obey those laws.
Fine with me if you want to be circumcised.
But don't you dare say that what you do has anything to do with your salvation, because that's spitting on the finished work of Christ on the cross.
Christ would not have descended, condescended to human form, and gone through all the hell he went through, been persecuted, killed, for us if He hadn't needed to.
But we have a God who loved us so much, He became a human being, and He'll forever remain 100% human and 100% divine, which brings up another heresy.
Not just the early Jews introducing the heresy, but these various beliefs that either Jesus was not fully human or He wasn't fully divine.
The Gnostics are the precursors to the Gnostics.
The Gnostics really came out in the 2nd century, but the precursors to them in Paul's time were arguing that material matter, that the physical matter, was inherently evil.
Therefore, Jesus Christ could not have been a human being.
Therefore, it was all an illusion.
He didn't even go on the cross.
It was like a magic trick.
It didn't really happen.
Well, Paul corrected all this and said, of course he was fully human and fully divine.
Had he not been both fully human and fully divine, God's magnificent salvation scheme wouldn't have worked.
I could go on and on, but anyway, so he corrected these heresies.
And that's why you have this beautiful image on the cover of the book of Doubting Thomas, putting his finger into the side of Christ.
Yes, he died on the cross for us.
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David, I want to talk about whether or not we're making headway.
I'd like to ask Kristen especially on the pro-life message if you think good things are happening, not just with Roe v Wade.
But first, we have to address this thing that's been around, this old sore, this canard that There are many ways to God, and I love this one you hear a lot.
I'm a spiritual person.
I don't go to church.
I don't believe in institutionalized Christianity, but I'm a spiritual person.
Do you address these issues in your book, David?
Oh, absolutely.
Jesus said, and let's make no mistake, these people say, Jesus is all salt and light.
He was never irritated.
He was never that emphatic.
And Paul was different.
He was firm and obnoxious.
No, they taught the same gospel, and Jesus was very emphatic about it.
I am the way, the truth, and the life.
There is no other way to the Father except through me.
That's pretty explicit.
Pretty explicit.
And Paul, of course, said, salvation is by faith alone.
And to the extent that we deviate from that in our teachings, we are sending people to, we're jeopardizing people's eternal destiny.
Because if you say it's some syncretized religion, you can add things to it.
Faith in Christ is not that important.
He's using the big fancy words here.
Did you hear that?
The author, the syncretized religion.
I'm going to translate it for the lay people out there, the millions listening to this show.
Some people would have us believe, David, it's like a menu.
You can just pick the bits that work and the bits that are difficult.
Ah, no, that's not for me, right?
That's exactly right.
By the way, it must be the IRS calling.
I don't know.
Sorry about that.
And you've got to have a sense of humor.
All right.
It can override my silent phone thing.
I know it's on silent.
So they add all these things.
I think it's Satan at work, because I know we sound weird, but Paul talks about spiritual warfare.
We see it today, where there's a total celebration of evil.
There's no other explanation for celebrating and glorifying the murdering of babies, the mutilation of young children, the open borders which lead to 100,000 fentanyl deaths, mostly children, a year.
And we have the left celebrating this and gaslighting us as if we're the evil people.
They're the ones who distort the meaning of language.
They're the ones who distort the meaning of truth.
So we descend into intellectual and moral chaos.
And they are around to fill the void with their Marxism.
It's easy, Kristen, for your father and I, we're of a certain generation, to say, oh dear, everything's awful, youngsters today, etc., etc.
Talk to us from your perspective.
Shouldn't we be a little bit buoyed by recent events, especially if I look at the pro-life versus the pro-abortion movement?
I just see young faces at these events.
What are you seeing?
I completely agree, and I think that when the pendulum sways one way, the good thing is that Jesus uses evil for good, oftentimes.
And so, so many people are waking up to the real spiritual forces that are at work right now in our society.
And people, Christians in particular, have been praying for the fall of Roe v. Wade for 50 years, and here we are in 2022, and Roe has fallen.
And so I think that it's so important that we take time to recognize that God did this, that at the end of the day, He is the one who brought this forward.
And there's also so much work that has been done.
For example, I believe there are nine times as many pregnancy centers as there are abortion clinics.
And that's all thanks to the hard work of Christians and conservatives in this country.
And so I think that we have to remember that there are so many of us in this country who still believe in the goodness of the Founding Fathers' vision for America, it being a nation based on Christianity.
And we have to continue meeting together, They're praying together and raising up our children with these values and not giving in to the different influences and culture that would try to muddle these ideas and confuse us from the purity of our founding fathers' vision for America.
I know we've already won, David, thanks to our Lord and Savior.
So we have to be, as Christians, optimistic.
But when you look at what's happening down here on earth, do you feel good about recent developments, or do you still think this is an uphill spiritual battle?
Oh, I think it's always going to be an ongoing spiritual battle.
Satan will never rest, and demonic forces will never rest.
I think I'm encouraged by the fact that the left has shown its full colors.
Those of us who have any discernment at all knew what they're capable of.
These people on the left are way more extreme than Obama.
That's only because Obama did what he could get away with at the time.
He's probably still pulling the strings today.
He outright hates America.
He hates everything it stands for, and so the entire modern left does.
Sebastian, that no one in the Democratic Party, no one, including Joe Manchin or Christian Sinema, will stand up against anything these people, Manchin did for a while.
Ultimately, they all fall in line.
So they might as well all be AOCs.
And so we have our work cut out for us.
But I'm encouraged by the fact that there's such a backlash.
Donald Trump would never have become president if it hadn't been for the excesses and extremism of the left.
And what's going on today, as they've shown their colors, I don't care what these people say, these eggheads, these liars, these propagandists say.
The polls are not changing.
We are not in jeopardy of a red wave, of losing this red wave in November.
We are going to shellac them up and down the board.
Now, they may cheat.
You can talk to Dinesh about that over the tour.
And I am worried about that.
As you said, God is in control.
But I ultimately think we are going to win this thing.
I haven't given up on America, and I don't think the rest of us patriots have.
They don't know how much they've unleashed a tiger here in the rest of us.
Yeah, the remarkable thing is that for the first time ever, the Democrat Party, there are no sane people.
You don't have to be a fan of Bill Clinton, but at least in the 1990s, now and again, he'd reign in the crazies.
Chuck Schumer, Pelosi aren't reigning in the crazies, they're letting the crazies run the asylum, and that's when Most American people who aren't political look up and say, hang on, there's something wrong about this.
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I don't know if you know my faith background, David.
I'm a cradle Catholic, born and bred.
My father was a Catholic.
My mother was a Calvinist.
She had to sign that contract when they got married.
The son, the children, would have to be raised as Catholics.
13 years with the Benedictines at school.
Then I went to the Jesuits for college, the real Jesuits, the original ones, not the woke Jesuits.
So I'm going to open a can of worms now, David.
It's the faith versus works.
Talk to us about how you address this perennial issue for Christians in your latest book of works versus faith.
Yeah, it's interesting.
I know that Catholics are reputed to be faith plus works, and we talk about the alleged contradiction between James and Paul, and I don't think there's actually a contradiction.
I think James was talking, when he used the word justification, he was using it in the sense of sanctification.
I won't get into theology here, but let me just say this.
I don't believe it makes any sense for it to be faith plus works, despite the fact that throughout the Bible it's clearly salvation by faith alone.
But logically, it makes no sense for God to have had his Son become a human being.
if he didn't need to, and if there was anything we could do to save ourselves.
So I have no question that salvation by faith alone, and I don't think, by the way, that Catholics really believe that it's faith plus works.
They just define justification a little differently from what I've understood.
When I hear Catholic people talking about it, Catholic priests, I think they would agree that it's mostly, or it is, salvation by faith alone, but I'm no expert.
If they don't agree, then I don't agree with them.
As much as I love Catholics, I'm not a full-blown five-point Calvinist either.
I'm kind of a hybrid between an Arminian and a Calvinist.
So you're a Calvinist like my mother?
No, no, I'm an Arminian.
I'm in between Arminian and Calvinist.
In other words, I don't believe God elected people from inception randomly to go straight to hell, arbitrarily.
No offense, Calvinists, but some of my favorite I don't think that the idea of the elect to the point of people don't have any choice at all, I don't buy that.
There's scriptural warrant from both sides, in my opinion.
Jesus doesn't want to lose any sheep.
He wants everyone to be saved.
That's throughout.
So I don't think that the idea of the elect to the point of people don't have any choice at all, I don't buy that.
I do think God pursues us.
I think it's the work of God and all that, but I don't think ultimately we also have to accept and receive Christ in our hearts.
But the point is, it's paradoxical and all that.
Bottom line, if you have faith in Jesus Christ as your Savior, you'll be just fine.
Regardless of whether I'm right theologically.
Nicely done.
Now you walked the tightrope very nicely there, Christian.
Talk to us about why you both decided, your father mentioned that you're including prayers in this book about the early church, about St.
Paul.
Why was that important to both of you?
Well, I think it's so that you can take the Scriptures and really apply it to your life on a personal level, because that's what our faith is all about.
You know, we don't just read the Bible to gain knowledge.
We do this so that from that knowledge we can bear fruit and go forth and do good works for God and let His purposes work through our lives.
And so, through the book, we are dissecting these Scriptures, trying to help the reader
Absorb them on a lay level and then we take prayers that have that correspond directly to the scriptures and we allow the reader and create an opportunity for them really to have a conversation with God right then right there and Ask him to highlight in their personal lives what he wants them to Absorb and use in their lives from these scriptures Fascinating fascinating David.
Why was it important for you to put prayers in your latest book?
Well, to add to what she said, she is a prayer warrior, spirit-filled, and I sometimes think, Sebastian, I'm too much on the head side.
Not that I'm intellectual, but my bent is to study, and that's how I overcame my intellectual doubts.
And so that is my emphasis, and I want to be more experiential.
I want to have it more in the heart.
You have to ultimately accept Christ in your heart.
It's not just a matter of believing in Christ in the sense of The demons believe in shudder, meaning they know He's God.
Of course they know, and they know what their eternal destiny is.
They're already there.
But we have to know, and we have to do something more.
We have to accept Christ as our Savior.
We have to rely on Him, lean in, trust Him for our eternal salvation in order for us to have salvation.
And so I love these prayers because they draw us closer to God.
They are interactive.
It's like a devotional now.
This book, it helps readers understand like a commentary, but it also kind of urges them to interact with the book, which is about Scripture and with Scripture itself.
And we ask God to help them as they understand it, and we ask God to help show them what they need to do in their lives to be a better witness for Christ and to help evangelize.
I just think these prayers really add in a qualitative way.
It's a difference in kind rather than degree from my earlier books.
It's such a good point that the demons know He's God.
Come on guys, if the demons can know that He's God, we've got to step up to the plate in our real faith.
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All right, David, here's the big question.
Here's the real tough one.
I came to the conclusion about a year in That thanks to COVID, we now know that the greatest problem we have in America is courage.
The virtue that makes all other virtues possible.
When companies were told to close down, schools were sending children home, Americans didn't stand up.
And especially church leaders didn't stand up.
Will you talk?
It's not You know, it has a great deal to do with St.
Paul and his courage in the face of persecution, but will you give us your take, please, David and Kristen, on the state of the Church and the state of courage in America?
Let's start with you, David.
Well, inside the Church, there are so many people who want to please man instead of pleasing God.
Therefore, they will dilute Scripture in order to conform it to the culture so that people won't cancel and that people won't think they're meanies, and so they won't stick to pure doctrine, which is a travesty and a blasphemy.
As to the secular side, although it's overlapping, I think there are so many examples of people not standing up.
It's why the Republicans have been ineffective over the years, because we wouldn't recognize the evil of the left for what it was, and therefore we wouldn't take the appropriate steps.
Jesus didn't come to unite.
He said, I came to divide mother and father, sister and brother, because I am the truth.
He represents truth and he's not going to allow truth to be polluted.
And so we don't need to reach across the aisle to deal with people who are impervious and who are impenetrable to logic.
It's all about the things behind the scenes.
Look at, for example, will anybody stand up in this culture and challenge Darwinism, even though we know that macroevolution is insane when it comes to trying to provide an answer for life, how life began, how a material existence began.
Nobody has the guts because we've been indoctrinated for a hundred years.
Can I just stop here because this is so close to my heart.
This is an ideology and it is because we know if you look at just the... I'm not one of these God created the world in six times 24 hours.
But you look at Darwin and it's Excuse my French.
Crap science.
There isn't enough time in history, even if you use billions of years, for the incremental changes that evolution says occur.
So number one, it doesn't work based upon the record of the fossils.
And then secondly, we're talking about an ideology that was foundational to things like eugenics and fascism.
Why can't people say the obvious?
We know that Hitler loved this stuff.
because they don't wanna be thought of as idiots, because there's no independent thinking in this world anymore.
Yeah.
Environmentalism is even worse now.
I mean, the insanity these guys are providing.
We now have electric cars being powered by gas-powered generators in California.
I mean, I could go on forever about that.
And yet I see conservatives on Fox all the time.
I love Fox.
I represent a bunch of people at Fox.
But I see a bunch of conservatives saying, yeah, climate change is terrible, but we need to move in to it more real.
No!
It's BS!
This climate change is not caused by man.
We cannot affect the global thermostat a minuscule amount in a hundred years, and all the studies show it.
So even if it is man-made, we're screwed because we can't do anything about it.
Ultimately, it's a Trojan horse for Marxism.
I know I'll come across as an idiot, a raving lunatic.
The facts are on our side.
They suppressed real science.
We saw how they suppressed science with COVID.
These people are all political all the time about everything.
They're not about science.
Yeah, it's like, I think it was a British commentator, James Delingpole, said that the environmental movement is a watermelon.
It has a thin veneer that is green on the outside and it is deep, deep red Marxism on the inside.
And he's absolutely right.
It's about control, controlling what you drive, what you eat.
And eventually creating state control over everything.
Kristen, talk to me about my appraisal of the last two years and the state of bravery amongst Christians in America.
Well, I think you're right.
The church in America is absolutely lacking courage, and I think that we're also lacking just the sort of purity that the first century church had and that has actually, ironically, started to come back thanks to COVID, because there have been many who have taken the church out of the building and have started worship and revival movements across the country.
For people who just wanted to gather together and worship God and commune with one another.
And the book of Hebrews tells us never stop neglecting, meeting together, praying for one another.
And I think in the church in America, we really have got to get back to our roots.
The vision that Jesus had for the church and for the Holy Spirit to really move freely among us, we have to get back to the heart of God and Not so much kind of like a consumer mentality where we're only going to church to hear a message that can help us on a personal level.
Yes, God is a personal God who works with us in a very personal way.
He died for us as individuals and He loves us as individuals, but we also have to remember that we have a higher calling As members of one body of the church whose head is Christ, and we are called to follow him and discern what he wants from our lives and really submit our ways to him.
And so I pray that evil can produce more good in this country, that it's waking Christians up around the country to really prioritize their faith first.
And so I think that is the silver lining in this.
Yeah.
More and more good men, courageous women who are doing something.
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You told us we're gonna be time to panic.
Well, is it time to panic?
Well, let me just tell you folks, it's never going to be time to panic.
Because we're never gonna give up.
We're not gonna give up on America.
I'm not.
I don't think most of you are either.
America's worth it.
America is worth fighting for.
America's worth not giving up.
My favorite cut from the great Rush Limbaugh, not long before he left us.
Why we never give up.
Why we never give in.
Why it is on American whites.
Whites un-Christian.
We miss your brother every single day, David.
Will you give us your take on why we never, ever must despair or give up?
Because what we are fighting for is eternal.
What we're fighting for is true.
And the nation was founded on those true principles.
We're about everything that's good and holy.
Not we are, but we adhere to those things.
We advocate those things.
We're facing evil.
We have a duty, a God-given duty, to be obedient and support those things that we know to be true.
And this is the freest, most wonderful nation in the history of the world.
And we patriots have an obligation to make it persevere, to continue to fight for it.
We have ancestors who gave their blood and who died for us.
We owe it to them.
We owe it to the Founding Fathers.
We owe it to our Progeny!
We owe it to our...
Daughters and sons and their daughters and sons and so on to fight for this great country.
Without this country, they will not live in liberty.
Without liberty, we will not be free to worship Jesus Christ.
We will not be free to work, prosper, and nor will the rest of the globe.
We are the leaders for the entire globe.
As the United States goes, so goes the globe, so goes people.
Marxism leads to impoverishment and slavery throughout, always has in history.
Capitalism.
And foundational Christian principles and the constitutional system leads to liberty, leads to prosperity.
We have to fight.
There's nothing more worth fighting for than the principles we are here endeavoring to fight for.
So we can't give up.
We won't give up.
And I'm confident in the end we're going to prevail, even though I sound negative sometimes.
That's to alert people, to wake people up.
And as Rush said, we got to keep going.
It's all worth fighting and dying for in the end.
God bless you, David.
God bless you, Kristen.
It's very simple.
We have a duty to the truth, and I have an obligation to David Limbaugh, who, when I was a complete newbie in this industry, held my hand, helped me out, gave me some very, very solid advice as a new radio presenter.
So, I am indebted to you, David Limbaugh.
It's the new book.
You've got to get it right now.
The Resurrected Jesus from the best publisher in the business.
It just happens to be my publisher.
It's Regnery, and he's got a pretty good Twitter game as well, so follow him at David Limbaugh.
You know how it's spelt.
L-I-M-B-A-U-G-H.
God bless both of you.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
You've been listening to America First One-on-One.