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Sept. 15, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Time to scrap the FBI

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	They are not happy!
	Something that started out as a political stunt.
	I guess it is resonating.
	It's touching a neuralgic point in the left.
	Shipping illegal immigrants from the states that are on the border to the tony parts of Washington D.C.
	and Even Tonya Martha's vineyard is having an effect.
	Bus loads have been sent by Governor DeSantis and Greg Abbott to D.C., to the Naval Observatory, and to that exotic, that very, very posh island of Massachusetts.
	The White House isn't happy.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	This is America First.
	This is a response from the press secretary, perhaps the dumbest press secretary in modern history, Corine Jean-Pierre, who's trying to make us look like the bad guys.
	Cut 10.
	And remember, these are people who are fleeing communism, who are fleeing hardship.
	And if these governors truly care about border security, they should ask Texas Governor Ted Cruz Sorry.
	Jeff, what did she just say?
	Texas governor what?
	Ted Cruz.
	Ted Cruz.
	I'm a bit confused.
	Oh no, she is as dumb as a box of rocks.
	Of course she thinks Ted Cruz is the governor of Texas.
	But even in New York they're having connections!
	This is the man we had high hopes of as a former NYPD cop.
	He's the new mayor and he's an embarrassment cutthroat.
	And we're not going to be like those municipalities and states where we fly people to Martha's Vineyard, where we put people on buses and have them fail to get the basic items they need.
	And anyone who states that this administration does not have a handle on this crisis, they must have been sleeping under a rock.
	I need help here, sorry.
	I'm just gonna, so, alright.
	Jeff, did he just say that if you don't think Biden has a handle on the border, you've been sleeping under a rock?
	I mean, does he, is he that stupid or does he think his listeners are stupid?
	He's got to be because he's the same guy a month ago that after a few hundred showed up started complaining about how the city can't handle it and he needs federal aid.
	But why is it okay?
	And again, you know, I am an immigrant.
	Maybe I should have come here illegally and not legally as I did and wait in line and take my test and, you know, pay my dues.
	What is it, Jeff, about it's okay for Texas or Florida to have illegal immigrants but it's not okay in Washington D.C.
	or Massachusetts or New York?
	Because they don't need what they think is going to be the additional Democrat voters in those spots.
	They need them in Florida.
	They need them in Texas.
	Cynical, but probably very, very accurate.
	All right, let's get to a story I didn't have time yesterday because just every single day there's so much news.
	This is our buddy John Solomon, the latest bombshell out of the Durham probe.
	Do we trust John Durham?
	We'll have a guest in a second now who'll give us his unvarnished opinion of that.
	But this truly is a bombshell.
	In a new revelation, Special Prosecutor John Durham revealed this week in court filings that the FBI paid a Russian businessman as a confidential human source in the investigation of Donald Trump's 2016 campaign, even though it had prior concerns that the businessman was tied to Moscow's intelligence services.
	Durham has persuaded the federal judge in the upcoming trial of Igor Danchenko to unseal a motion revealing that Danchenko, the primary source of the now discredited Steele dossier, was paid.
	by the FBI as a confidential human source for more than three years until the fall of 2020 when he was terminated for lying to agents.
	Perfect!
	So covering up during the, you know, election run-up, they hid Igor Danchenko as a covert source.
	The revelations mean ...that the FBI, which first fired MI6 agent Christopher Steele, the author of the Hillary Clinton-funded dossier, as a human source in November 2016 for having unauthorized contacts with the news media.
	Then the FBI turned around a few months later and hired Steele's primary informer to work with the Bureau, even after determining that Danchenko's statements in the Steele dossier were uncorroborated or exaggerated.
	So Steele Talk to the media when he's not allowed to.
	So this former MI6 agent who is paid by the Hillary campaign to gin up this fake dossier, he gets fired by the FBI but they need somebody else.
	So what do they do?
	They hire as a confidential informant the man who was the primary source for the garbage in the Steele dossier.
	And this was meant to be somebody inside the Kremlin, somebody with close, close ties to Russian intelligence.
	He was sitting in the Brookings Institution, that Democrat hive of think-tankery, just a few miles from this studio!
	What do they know about Danchenko?
	Even more stunning, Durham confirmed that the FBI had concerns about Danchenko's ties to Russian intelligence a decade earlier, opening up a counterintelligence probe on him after learning he was trying to buy classified information from the Obama administration.
	So let's just stop here for a second.
	A man who was caught Fifteen years ago, trying to steal secrets from the Obama administration, when he was needed by Hillary's buddies inside the FBI to smear President Trump and his campaign, that spy, that threat to America, was hired by the FBI as a confidential informant.
	Why?
	Because as soon as Devin Nunes started digging up the truth about the lies, the collusion hoax, as soon as Kash Patel was on the case, they needed to deep six it.
	They needed to hide it from Congress as well.
	And as long as he's a confidential informant, they can say, sorry, can't answer those questions.
	National security, don't you know?
	The FBI closed their counterintelligence probe against Danchenko in 2010, but only after it quote, incorrectly believed that the defendant had left the country, Durham told the court.
	So the FBI are not only corrupt, they're so incompetent they closed down the investigation of this guy trying to steal secrets because they think he left America.
	Well, maybe they should have gone down the road.
	I mean, the Brookings Institution isn't far from the FBI headquarters.
	Shame they don't have those, you know, phone books anymore.
	The old ones with pages.
	They could have looked up the address.
	Before the FBI hired Danchenko as a confidential human source, it detected more troubling behavior, prosecutors told the court.
	During his January 2017 interview with the FBI, the defendant initially denied having any contact with Russian intelligence or security services.
	But later, as noted by the FBI agents, he contradicted himself and stated that he had had contact with two individuals who he believed to be connected with Russian intelligence.
	A web of lies, a tissue of lies.
	As my buddy just this morning said on his show, an individual who served this nation with honor as a member of the NYPD and then the Secret Service, Dan Bongino says, it's gotta go.
	You gotta get rid of it.
	It's time to dismantle the FBI.
	They have become a political police force.
	A Gestapo for the FBI.
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	Thank you.
	Rick one's up.
	Alright.
	Matt, can you hear us?
	Matt?
	Does it show that someone's connected yet, Alex?
	No signal yet.
	While we're waiting, I got titles in mind.
	Boykin or that monologue.
	Who is Igor Danchenko?
	Uh-huh.
	And then for the general... What did I have?
	So much good stuff.
	The five things a man must be.
	And it is gonna be Steve hosting tonight, and they said all's good.
	Okay, good.
	Do you want to do ins and outs for General Borges?
	Yes.
	Alright, ready when you are.
	We'll be back with Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin after these messages.
	Stay with us for more of the Manhood Hour with Jerry Boykin here on America First.
	More on what it means to be a man with General Boykin after these messages.
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	Okay...
	One minute.
	Still nothing, Alex?
	Still nothing.
	So give him 15 seconds.
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	The left is not happy with what Governor DeSantis and Greg Abbott are doing.
	I wonder if we need to do more of that.
	Let's ask somebody who runs the Washington Bureau for the most influential conservative website on the planet.
	It is Breitbart.com and he's Matt Boyle.
	Matt, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. G, always a pleasure, sir.
	Thanks for having me.
	They're getting their knickers in a twist.
	I mean, Eric Adams, Karine Jean-Pierre, Kamala Harris.
	This started out as a little bit of a stunt, but it seems to be working, doesn't it, Matt?
	Well, look, here's the deal.
	What they're doing through their policies is they are forcing states like Texas and Arizona and Florida and many other red states in which the Biden administration is resettling migrants in that there that are coming in because of the border that they know is open.
	And if you listen to the migrants talk about it, they know that they have an open invitation, a red carpet to waltz right into America because of these open border policies of the Biden administration.
	But the Biden people and the Democrats have been just saddling them off on places like Texas and Florida and other places around the country, Arizona, et cetera, making them deal with it.
	Well, no, guess what?
	Maybe it's time that we drop them off at Kamala's house at the Naval Observatory like Governor Abbott did today or fly them up to Martha's Vineyard like Governor DeSantis did yesterday.
	Right.
	Like so, look, it's time that these folks understand that there are massive burdens to a community that come with these open border policies and they in their liberal enclaves, elitist enclaves don't seem to get it.
	So let's send the message directly to them.
	Good for Governor Abbott.
	Good for Governor DeSantis.
	And I hope the rest of the Republican governors do the same thing anyway.
	Any migrants that President Biden and his regime are sending to your states, send them on to Portland, Seattle.
	Chicago, New York, Washington, D.C., and Martha's Vineyard in Boston.
	And the Democrats, if they want these policies, they can take on the burdens.
	The Republican in the red states did not vote for this.
	They did not vote for this regime and these policies, and they should not be saddled with the burden of having to take care of these migrants.
	Well, let's just remind our listeners and our viewers that this is the shocking clip from about a year ago that I thought, this is it.
	We don't need a campaign.
	There's no way the left can win after this footage from Westchester County in a small regional airport, after hours, totally closed down.
	The federal contractors from a company that works for the CIA, yes, we found out the name of the company here in Virginia, was intercepted by the local PD.
	And on their body cams, the officers asked, what the hell is going on with these plane loads, these unmarked plane loads of illegal immigrants?
	Here's a little reminder.
	Cut to.
	You don't want to be somewhere where the spotlight is.
	You want to tell the people to download as possible.
	You know what I mean?
	I just like I said I get the whole Secret scene All this But this is Even about my Yeah You know what I mean And why You know why You know why Yeah, I know, but why?
	What's the big secret?
	Everybody knows what's happening.
	You know why?
	Because if I get out, the government's betraying America.
	Because if this gets out, the people know the government are betraying America.
	Matt, why is it okay on our dime to fly illegals across country under cover of darkness, but when Governor Abbott does it in broad daylight to Martha's Vineyard or to the Naval Observatory, that's not okay!
	Well, again, this just highlights the hypocrisy of the whole thing and the failure of the policy.
	And again, their efforts to try to put this off on communities.
	Like, look, here in Northeast Florida, you know, we've had migrants that they've reached.
	The Biden regime has resettled here that have gone on to commit heinous crimes.
	Right.
	Like and that's the thing is that do they know who these people are before they take them in and so on and so forth?
	Look, at the end of the day, this is not about the migrants.
	I understand that there are people all over the world who are in very unfortunate situations who want a better shot.
	And the United States is their shot for hope.
	I certainly sympathize with people from who are coming from Venezuela in particular.
	Right.
	A socialist regime, communist regime that that that is a totally failed government there or elsewhere throughout Central America.
	I get it that they all want a better life.
	But here's the deal is the fact of the matter is, is that there's a cost that is associated with this, a CPM, a cost per migrant.
	Who is going to pay that cost?
	Somebody's going to pay the bill for this.
	And guess what?
	The red states didn't vote for this.
	We wanted Donald Trump who had a secure border, right?
	And frankly, we should not get the bill.
	So any of these migrants that are sent to your states, I applaud the Republican governors for doing this, for taking it on and sending the bill on to the other ones.
	If they do keep the migrants there, they should send a CPM, a cost per migrant bill, to the White House and the federal government should be paying the bill on this.
	Even in that case, the federal government paying the bill, That's the taxpayers paying the bill.
	There's so much that goes into this bringing people in from another country.
	There's language barriers.
	There are health care burdens on communities.
	There are school burdens on communities.
	There are economic burdens on communities.
	If you increase the labor supply in a certain area, then what you're doing is you're decreasing the demand for labor in that area.
	And then what ends up happening?
	You decrease wages.
	If you decrease the demand for labor, you decrease wages and you jack up unemployment.
	So you want to know why wages are not going up under Joe Biden?
	The reason why that's happening, the reason why we're in this economic stagflation situation that we're in under Joe Biden is because of the, in large part, because of their migration policies and their trade policies, among other things.
	But the point is that under President Trump, we had a really robust economy with growing wages and a growing economy.
	That was a big deal because you used to have to choose between one or the other.
	Right, like with the Democrats and the Republicans and, you know, the Democrats were all for the unions and the working people and the Republicans were all for Wall Street and the big growing economy.
	Now it's very clear when you've got an America First agenda, and this is why you've got Joe Biden out there trying to destroy MAGA and take it on and several of his lieutenants in the Democrat Party, like Tim Ryan, Hank Johnson, Mazie Hirono, other ones are taking it even further, using fighting words like trying to kill MAGA.
	That's what Tim Ryan said.
	But the reason why they're going out there and doing that is because they recognize that when the America First agenda really gets going, that it proves their vision to be a lie.
	Well, and because MAGA's stronger than ever, just look at the recent primaries.
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	What the flip is Jankid doing in Nevada?
	I mean, look, I think it's good that he's out there campaigning for the guy, trying to help him.
	But why Nevada?
	Because I think Nevada's in play in a big way.
	So, like, I think Nevada's... What do you think?
	You think his going out there tips the scales?
	I think he probably helps Lombardo a little bit, right?
	Tell me about Lombardo.
	Lombardo's awesome, dude.
	I've had him on radio a bunch.
	He's the sheriff of Clark County.
	Deeply understands the law and order issues.
	Solid, solid dude.
	He can talk to you about the crime wave.
	I think crime is a major issue.
	But really, really solid, solid, solid, solid candidate.
	Send us his team's details.
	Yeah, yeah, we'll do.
	We'll do.
	Here, I'll send it to Jeff right now.
	Thanks.
	So where is Gillum?
	Come on, dude.
	Anything from Margo, Jeff?
	I'm sorry?
	Did you say something to us?
	Anything from Margo?
	Nothing from Margo?
	Nothing.
	Can you send me her article?
	The one that she said about Durham?
	Oh, and did you print those screengrabs?
	I haven't had a chance yet.
	Yeah, let me try to do that now.
	30 seconds, Matt.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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	Just the last few days.
	We've got the Lyndell story.
	We've got Steve Bannon.
	I'll be on his show, War Room, later today, being arrested in New York.
	We've got the 40 subpoenas against Trump associates.
	It looks like they're desperate.
	I don't know if this is a sign of weakness, but how does this play into the midterms?
	Is this going to garner more sympathy for President Trump, or is it going to make MAGA people feel intimidated, in your opinion?
	No, the more that the Justice Department continues to engage in these outrageous activities, the more they're only going to enrage Americans and push people more to vote.
	Look, I was talking to a top Democrat, very, very well connected, very recently, and they were telling me they are praying that Merrick Garland, praying that Merrick Garland does not move forward with any indictment attempt against President Trump before the election because they know that the backlash would be so severe across the entire country against the Democrats.
	Like the Democrats are already in very, very bad shape when it comes to the House.
	It's almost a certainty that they're going to lose the House majority.
	And the question is only how big will the House Republican majority in the next Congress be?
	And now the energy has turned since the Mar-a-Lago raid The Democrats were getting all sorts of momentum over the summer.
	That has totally swung back the other way now since the Mar-a-Lago raid.
	In four straight polls, Herschel Walker, the Republican nominee for Senate in Georgia, leads Senate Radical Raphael Warnock, the incumbent Democrat Senator there.
	We've now seen polling that shows an eight-point swing and a lead change in Wisconsin.
	Senator Ron Johnson is now taking the lead over Lieutenant Governor Mandela Barnes, a total radical.
	By the way, if you think John Fetterman in Pennsylvania is radical with regard to the prisons and letting the prisoners out, wait till you meet Mandela Barnes.
	He wants to release half the prison population in Wisconsin onto the streets.
	Fetterman, to his credit, only wants to release a third.
	Right?
	Still very radical, but like still very radical, but like not as radical as as Mandela Barnes.
	So but we've seen the polling shift there.
	We've seen the polling shift in Pennsylvania.
	It's now a really tight race.
	It's a four or five point race.
	Dr. Oz is almost there and things are turning significantly.
	The polls have shown now Adam Laxalt has taken the lead in Nevada, the Republican nominee for U.S.
	Senate there.
	If the poll, and Ted Bott has taken the lead in North Carolina, Marco Rubio leads down here in Florida.
	We see several other Republicans, J.D.
	Vance has taken the lead in Ohio, especially after this Tim Ryan disaster this week.
	So the thing is that what we've seen now is that if the public polling is correct across the board, the Republicans would take a 51 or 52 seat majority.
	In the US Senate, and that's because of the actions of Joe Biden, this radical FBI Justice Department, combined with the inflation, combined with the whole big picture of this election.
	So does it fit into the broader picture of this election?
	Yes.
	Is it helping them?
	No, it's helping us.
	And then Baldock, General Baldock in New Hampshire, totally MAGA, his winning his primary.
	That's pretty indicative as well, isn't it Matt?
	Yes, and the establishment Republicans are freaked out over Baldock.
	Mitch McConnell don't like him.
	He hasn't said a word about it yet, since the primary on Tuesday.
	And I think the world of General Baldock, I've had him on my show.
	I know he's a really solid guy, and I think he's going to give them a run for their money.
	Let me put it this way.
	Maggie Hashing has spent north of $10 million already on her own re-election campaign.
	The general election just began on Tuesday.
	She's going to spend much more.
	She literally went to the border.
	Democrat U.S.
	Senator went to the border and did a border tour to try to make it look like she was doing something.
	Now, if you look at her actual record in the U.S.
	Senate, she's not actually done anything to fight for border security, but the fact is that she hears footsteps.
	She's worried too.
	And again, we can get the majority even without Pennsylvania or New Hampshire, but the fact is that I do think that things are looking very up for Republicans heading into November, and the energy is all on the GOP side.
	It's not on the Democrats' side.
	Red Wave is coming.
	They better buckle up.
	She's going to the border, but the vice president isn't.
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	Is he still there, Alex?
	Yes.
	Uh, I'm checking now.
	Hold on.
	No.
	Alright, so we're gonna have, um, Gillum in 2C.
	Gillum, 2C.
	Is that instead of Geist or in addition to Geist?
	No, Geist is D. Geist is D. Okay.
	Oh, he's 1D?
	Oh, so he's now.
	Okay.
	Sorry?
	Who's, who's 1?
	I thought Geist was 2D.
	Jeff's double-checking.
	He thinks it's 1D.
	Can you give me line 2?
	Mic's are on.
	Hello, who's this?
	This is Jud.
	Hi, what's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Hey, my comment is just about the politicization and weaponization of federal law enforcement, all the subpoenas they're throwing around to, you know, President Trump's allies.
	And I think it's kind of a scary moment here that we're all living in.
	That's it?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Thank you, Cut.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	So when is Geist?
	I guess Gillum is now.
	He's got him on the phone right now.
	Who's got... Oh, Geist is now.
	Okay.
	Do you have the Susan Rice cut?
	Thank you.
	That's from Monday.
	Which cut is that, Geoff?
	Is it two?
	From Monday?
	You want me to put Geist on?
	No, not yet.
	Copy.
	Okay.
	Yeah, I have it.
	Alright, um... I'm gonna tee it up.
	Okay.
	He's on the line.
	You can give it to me.
	Okay.
	Hey, Mark!
	Yes.
	Hey, how are you doing today?
	Good.
	I'm going to play a cut from Susan Rice, and then I'm going to come to you.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Stand by.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
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	We've dedicated a large chunk of this week, every single day, to remembering 9-11.
	But it wasn't just 9-11 that made, it wasn't just 2001 that made 9-11 a date blistered on our memory.
	It was, of course, the Benghazi attacks.
	And just a reminder of how the woman in the White House who now runs the Domestic Policy Council lied about that event.
	But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is in fact what it began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video.
	Yeah, that's why it happened.
	Spontaneous, really?
	Well, let's ask one of the people who fought that battle in our annex.
	He is immortalized in the book and the movie 13 Hours, a member of the annex security team, Mark Osgeist.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Sebastian, thank you for having me.
	You must be disappointed because it seems as if ten years later most Americans have forgotten about what happened in Benghazi and what happened to you and your colleagues.
	You know they have and it's unfortunate because there's so many lessons to be learned and if they would choose to look at it I think if they would have looked at it and saw what it was They wouldn't have made the same mistakes that they did in Afghanistan when we tried to pull out there because it's all similar.
	It's Washington D.C.
	trying to dictate what the people on the ground should be doing when they're not the one in harm's way.
	And with response to that clip I played, this canard that is still being peddled, that what happened to you and your friends and the people who had to die that day was somehow a spontaneous reaction to a YouTube video and riots in Egypt.
	Your response, Mark Geist?
	I think that's ridiculous.
	You know, the attack on our consulate and the follow-on attacks at our which was about a mile away, were complex.
	It takes more time for planning.
	When you're having indirect fire as well as belt-fed machine guns and AK-47 on the ground attack for multiple directions, it takes training, that takes planning.
	There was nothing spontaneous about it.
	I mean, it was 9-11, and there's bad guys out there, and there still is to this day that are wanting to do Americans harm.
	And because of this administration, I mean, we have open borders, We don't care.
	We don't care about security and the safety of Americans.
	Let's remember those who died that day.
	Ambassador Chris Stevens, USFS officer Sean Smith, CIA contractors Tyrone Woods and Glenn Doherty.
	Would you address the idea that we were told that the withdrawal from Afghanistan was something to be proud of, as the State Department Press Secretary said?
	Yeah, but it's ridiculous.
	I mean, and I've said this many times.
	You know, if they look back in history, the best place to, um, the most defensive place or defensible place in Afghanistan is Bagram Air Base.
	You can go back all the way to Alexander the Great.
	That's where he stationed his troops before he pushed into India.
	That's where Russia stationed their troops before they pulled out of Afghanistan.
	And Instead of seeing that that was a safe and orderly thing to do and utilize that space and the defensibility of it, we chose to go to the most indefensible place, which was the Kabul airport, thinking that there would not be an attack on our American citizens and our soldiers and sailors, airmen and Marines that defended that and performed so valiantly trying to get those that helped us out of Afghanistan.
	Thank you for keeping the memory of that day alive.
	Please follow him right now at MarkGeistSWP and read the book and watch the movie, 13 Hours.
	God bless you, Mark.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Your call's on 833-333-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Let's go to Al in California, waiting very patiently on line one.
	Welcome, Al.
	How you doing, Sebastian?
	Good.
	Hey, two questions.
	One is about the Statue of Liberty.
	A lot of people mistake the Statue of Liberty as being about immigration.
	In fact, it's about Freedom from imperial rule at that time, meaning 1776, it has nothing to do with immigration.
	Yeah, which is, let's remember who it was gifted to first.
	The French built it for the Egyptians, and the Egyptians didn't want it.
	And it would be weird if the Egyptians had a thing to celebrate emigration, because they don't celebrate emigration to Egypt.
	And these are for people that want to tear statues down, except the Statue of Immigration.
	The second thing is, Ken Burns has a special on the Holocaust on Sunday, and here's what he said.
	He said that the United States is a sovereign country, took in more Jewish and other refugees than any other sovereign country, but he intimated that we didn't do enough, and when the moderator asked him about us policing the border, he thought that us policing the border now would virtually be the equivalent of the Holocaust.
	Now what gets me about this thing is, no matter what we do with immigration, it's never, ever enough.
	We've been very generous, we've been very thoughtful, and it's never enough.
	Yeah, no, it's absolutely right.
	I heard that interview.
	It was absolutely disgusting.
	And your point reminds me of that fabulous press conference at the White House when Stephen Miller was assaulted by one of the reporters saying that he's a racist and whatever.
	And he said, Okay, so what is the right number?
	Is there a number of immigrants that we should limit into the United States?
	And of course, the reporter couldn't answer because for them, any limit is racist, and that's when America ceases to exist.
	Thank you for your call, Al.
	We'll continue your calls with Antoinette next.
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	Let's go to Antoinette.
	It must be Thursday.
	Line three.
	Hello, Dr. G.
	It is Thursday.
	And first I have to say, God is life, and we have lost the concept of life, and we've lost our path as women.
	So we need to pray for the men that are grieving because of abortion, and why I'm going there.
	There are so many women, especially on the left, that are evil.
	The liberal women that are not waking up and protecting children.
	They're the teachers.
	They're the ones that are supposed to be protecting the children in school.
	The long-term abortion situation here in California, which we didn't even vote for, but the stupid Senate here and the Assembly in the state of California went ahead and passed the late-term abortion.
	On August the 30th, here last month.
	Sure.
	AB 2223 is now a bill in California.
	California is the state of death.
	I hate to say it.
	It breaks my heart.
	There's so much more.
	Just like now Google is censoring.
	If you want to search for an alternative with your pregnancy for health, they have blocked it.
	Google has blocked it.
	And there's this stupid Democratic senator Yes, hello.
	Ben Zegloff, he's all happy because now they're suppressing.
	Well, look, it's a sign of weakness.
	When they suppress the truth, it means they are weak.
	Thank you, Antoinette, for the depressing update.
	But we keep on fighting, and we know that you shall as well.
	Let's go to Joel, line two.
	Welcome, Joel.
	Yes, hello.
	I'd like to say that I think a lot of Republicans and a lot of commentators are missing the fact that this is more than just right versus left and against Donald Trump.
	It's against the whole idea of the American concept moving toward a – they want to move toward a global concept, a global government, where all these people in power will still be rich, they'll still be controlling things, but everybody else will be living under communism. they'll still be controlling things, but everybody else will be Joel, do you listen to this program?
	I mean, seriously, you're ringing in to say this is about America versus globalism.
	I mean, have you listened to this show before?
	I've listened, not to the news program, but I've listened to you on radio before.
	Okay, because you're not telling our listeners anything new.
	There's a reason the show is called America First.
	There's a reason I worked for President Trump in the White House.
	You're right, but we know what we're fighting.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	When you look at these pictures, you get a sense of what black life was like.
	Some of them look pretty prosperous.
	Divide Providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
	Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
	They had integrity.
	That's what black people were.
	We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
	We were raised to love America.
	Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus and hundreds of statues.
	You see people trying to rewrite history.
	The American people know these names have to go.
	Why is that?
	Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
	This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
	And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black and to hate themselves.
	There is no country in this world that a black person would rather be.
	Unless, of course, they grow up in this country.
	You broke the contract rule for 400 years!
	Then they're fed a lie that is so deceptive.
	Black lives matter!
	Black lives matter!
	The reason that that lie exists is power.
	There are certain people who are using the Negro in order to establish that power in Washington.
	And the Negro is just merely a pawn in a game that's bigger than he is.
	I'll come home! I'll come home!
	I'll come home!
	As we promised you every single day this week in commemoration of what happened 21 years ago in Manhattan in Washington DC and Shanksville Pennsylvania will be sharing some of the oral history we took with Mayor Rudy Giuliani in his apartment on September the 11th just a few days ago.
	Here we have his telling of the collapse of the second tower and then his response to those who peddle conspiracy theories to this day.
	So now we had to decide where are we going to regroup?
	The emergency management center was in the part of the city where the lights went out.
	Couldn't use that.
	Okay, we'll go to the police department, which has an emergency management center backup.
	Bernie makes a quick call.
	Electricity out.
	There's a firehouse right at the beginning of the village that I knew really well because it's the firehouse that lost the three firefighters when I was First Mayor.
	It's a big one.
	I always liked it.
	I had dinner there a few times.
	And I thought that could be a quick emergency management center for us.
	And I said, actually, let's head there, because we could walk there.
	And let's regroup there, because we can make calls from there.
	And as we were doing that, all of a sudden, I feel John Huvane, who was an Irish football player and a big one, grabbed me and started running me.
	So all of a sudden, I'm involuntarily running.
	So about 20 steps of that, I say, John, what am I running for?
	He said, don't you hear it?
	I turn around, and I don't know what I see in back.
	It looked like an atomic explosion.
	That was the second building coming down.
	And it was already beginning, the cloud was already beginning to come through the street.
	So it must have been about 10 blocks.
	Eight blocks away, but you could see it coming through the street, coming to get you.
	I said, stop.
	I said, stop burning the military, or what are we going to do?
	There was this poor guy who was an older man.
	He was limping, and he was having a hard time.
	And I said, Bernie, let's... We were walking, and there were police cars following us, like Bernie's car and this guy.
	I said, let's use those cars for these people.
	So we put civilians in the cars to get them out of there.
	And we decided maybe we would use it.
	There was a hotel there.
	We walk into the hotel.
	We're going to take it over.
	This is where we're going to put the police and the fire department.
	And Tom, I think Tom Van Essen was with us now and joined us.
	But certainly Bernie and Richie Shearer and myself.
	And we go, we walk into the lobby.
	Tell the manager we might want to use it.
	And before we even finish the sentence, we all look at each other.
	And we walk right through the lobby and walk out.
	It was an all-glass building.
	We hadn't seen it because it was an all-glass building until we got inside and we said, that'd be really smart.
	Put ourselves in an all-glass building.
	So we get out and we get up to the firehouse.
	And the firehouse, of course, was closed.
	All those people were down there and they lost most of them.
	And John Huvane took a fire extinguisher that was outside and smashed the door open.
	So we got in, and that's the first time I was able to make a call, the first person I called.
	Before I called the president was Governor Pataki, because I wanted the National Guard, which was very unusual.
	I spent seven and a half years always turning down the National Guard.
	I got the governor on the phone, and he said, thank God, Rudy.
	We thought you were missing.
	He actually thought I was dead, which he had told me later.
	Now at the time, they had actually prepared papers for somebody being appointed to take over the city.
	and to make decisions.
	And had it not shown up in about 15 more minutes, they were about to execute that they needed decisions made.
	That doesn't mean I wouldn't have taken over right away, but they had a report that we went into a building and that the building came down.
	I believe people mistakenly thought we went into a different building right near our building that did go down.
	Given the level of detail that you've just shared, this first person eyewitness that is incomparable or just so rare to hear exposed like this, Thanks.
	We're more than 20 years later and there are still insane conspiracy theories that it didn't happen, it wasn't a plane, the U.S.
	government did it.
	Could you just talk to people who are in this country today who believe that about 9-11, Mr. Mayor?
	First of all, it's hard for me because I lived through it.
	So I know it was a plane.
	I know it was a plane.
	I know how it happened.
	I know, I mean, there were people who say, well, they couldn't have melted the steel.
	Well, it had thousands and thousands of pounds of jet fuel burning.
	And it burns at like 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 degrees of Fahrenheit.
	5,000, 6,000 degrees of Fahrenheit.
	And we burn steel.
	Yeah, I mean, steel burns.
	I've heard people say, well, steel doesn't burn easily.
	Of course it burns.
	If you have the right temperature, you burn it.
	Well, think about it.
	You had this airliner in the middle of the building, or maybe a little more than the middle of the building, sitting there, leaking massive amounts of gasoline into the building.
	And then the fire is getting greater and greater and greater.
	1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, 2,000 degrees, 3,000 degrees, 4,000 degrees.
	It was explained to me that very day by Charlie Hirsch, the medical examiner, when he was explaining to me that I wasn't going to recover any bodies.
	I said to him, Charlie, how many body bags do I need?
	He said, you're not going to need many because you're not recovering bodies.
	You're recovering pieces that we're going to do by DNA because the bodies were pulverized and they evaporated.
	He said, if it burned the steel, what do you think it did to the human body?
	Okay, Charlie, I got it.
	You know, I can retrospect all these things are easier to think about.
	Sometime, I don't know, I don't know how or what it would have changed, but I wonder why I didn't think of a Bernie or Pete or whatever didn't think of the that all this gasoline was pouring into the building and that it would melt it.
	Now, I'm not sure I would have known that it would have melted it until now, until this point.
	But now that you tell it to me, it makes all the sense in the world. - And to those who believe it today? - You know, I had one woman, one woman asked me something like that at the University of Oklahoma.
	Or was it Oklahoma State?
	I was giving a lecture about this and this one woman, a very nice woman, asked me this question about why do we give all the steel away so nobody could really examine what happened to it.
	Like, why did I let the FBI give all the steel away?
	I said, well, first of all, we didn't give any steel.
	What she's talking about is we gave away little pieces of steel that people could use for memorials after the entire investigation was done.
	But her thesis was that we gave it away because if you looked at the steel, you'd have been able to tell that Bush was really responsible for it.
	And I actually got so frustrated.
	I did it nicely, though, as a joke.
	I thought I was going to get thrown out of college.
	I said to her, ma'am, you know, you've asked me now four times, and I told you, I said, first of all, while I was the mayor, which was four months.
	I don't think I gave any steel away.
	All the steel went to Staten Island.
	The FBI has it.
	And by the way, the mayor doesn't get to give away every steel.
	She said, well, maybe your predecessor, maybe your successor Bloomberg gave it away.
	I said, well, I don't think he had the authority to give it away.
	But in any event, that isn't the way it happened.
	She said, well, you're just wrong.
	I said, okay, could I... a really helpful suggestion.
	I said, Oklahoma or Oklahoma State is a great university.
	They have a great psychology department.
	And I'm sure they have some great psychiatrists.
	Would you please go see one?
	I mean, just get some help because this is... you're... what you're saying is...
	Beyond irrational.
	And we don't need that, we've got enough problems.
	No, I don't know why, but doesn't that happen all the time?
	It does.
	It happens with the Kennedy assassination, but there at least you have some issues like, you know, one shooter, two shooters, could've, there are a couple of could've actually happened that way.
	I can see how people would have different opinions about this, but...
	Beyond the crazy conspiracies, we're more than 20 years later now.
	What if somebody make up the picture?
	Beyond the crazy conspiracies, we're more than 20 years later now.
	Do you think most Americans outside of New York properly appreciate what happened here on that day adequately, Mr. Mayor?
	Ooh, that's a very good question, Sebastian.
	Well, probably not.
	It's like saying, can I properly appreciate what somebody went through in the Second World War if I wasn't in it?
	Or, can I empathize with it?
	Sure.
	Get pretty close to realizing the terrible horror and terrible, yeah.
	But I think it's impossible to, for you or me, to go through something that somebody else went through when it was so horrific.
	I'm just referring to myself now.
	I don't know if I can possibly adequately describe to you what it did to me to see the man in person jump out the window, and then I watched his body.
	I probably shouldn't have done it, but I did, and it had an impact on me.
	Probably impossible for anybody else to have that impact except empathize with me and realize my goodness would be pretty terrible for me You know, a great debt of gratitude to that man for what he did to bring New York back from that disastrous day.
	We'll share one more selection tomorrow and then post the whole oral history.
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	When we post that, do you want to just post all five that we did together, or the whole thing raw?
	The whole thing raw.
	Yeah, the whole thing raw.
	How long did you say the whole thing was?
	An hour and a half.
	Okay, good stuff.
	They say unsure at the moment, probably border for the topic.
	Okay, good.
	Alright, um... Did Gelem respond?
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	like this book twitter handle.
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	Is it 44?
	Yes.
	Right, Larry wants to come on now.
	I said no.
	I've told him 144 if he wants, he'll tell us.
	Okay, we have him now, mics are on.
	Mr. Gillum!
	Oh, probably need to split.
	Oh!
	Do we have Skype up, Alex?
	okay there we go Can you hear me?
	Have you got me, Jonathan?
	Thank you, Jonathan.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	No signal, he's muted.
	I think.
	On his end.
	Might be.
	Can you tell Casio he's up?
	Jonathan?
	Yes.
	Hey, welcome.
	Thanks for your flexibility today.
	Where were you on September the 11th?
	September 11th, I was still in the Navy and I was in transition assistance to get out of the Navy.
	And then when did you join the NYPD?
	Well, I was never in the NYPD.
	I went to the Air Marshals right after that.
	I left, I literally left there and went into the Air Marshals.
	And then the Bureau?
	And then contracting and then the Bureau.
	And then the Bureau.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right, let's talk about Durham.
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	Hey Jeff, can you send me, uh, oh no, I got it.
	Okay.
	Not using any cuts this segment?
	Uh, probably not.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	You got it, buddy.
	It's good to be with you.
	Nice guns.
	He's got suns out, guns out.
	Listen, I can help you lose an extra two pounds if you'd shave off all that hair.
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	But anyway, that's a whole other thing.
	We've got so much to talk about when it comes to the deep state, the swamp.
	We were texting back and forth last night.
	That's why I asked you on the show and thank you for joining us.
	But first, we were reminiscing just in the last segment.
	I went to New York for 9-11, sat down with Rudy in his apartment, recorded him.
	An oral history of where he was on 9-11.
	You were still with the Navy.
	Since the Navy, you've served with the Air Marshals, with the FBI.
	I gotta ask you, 21 years later, does it feel like we're forgetting the significance of that day, Jonathan?
	Well, Afghanistan proved that.
	I mean, when we completely got out of there and didn't win the war, we didn't do anything to stop further attacks from happening from the Taliban or any other A group that may want to come at us.
	I mean, I think it directly led to the invasion of the Ukraine as well.
	And it makes me afraid of China because these people know in the world now that as long as Joe Biden and the leftist Marxist Democrats are in charge, that they can pretty much push to do anything they want and they're going to get little to no reaction whatsoever.
	I think you're absolutely right.
	Without the disastrous surrender of Afghanistan, there is no invasion of Ukraine.
	Okay, let's turn to the topic that we asked you to discuss.
	Margot Cleveland, who is one of the great authors at The Federalist, just wrote this piece.
	Exclusive document indicates Special Counsel Durham has failed to bring collusion hoaxes to justice.
	I presume you would concur with that assessment of John Durham?
	Yeah, I was never a fan of Durham, and when you look at the process of how he got to the point where he was running this investigation, and I use that word loosely, what you saw was Bill Barr, and Bill Barr getting involved and sticking his head in there in the wrong way led to Robert Mueller and those special counsels that do absolutely nothing.
	And then along comes John Durham.
	And all three of those things concluded nothing.
	And the bad part about it is Mueller, who I do believe could have found and investigated the Democrats and should have gone that direction, he did nothing.
	And now Durham, who kept, well, he definitely kept the QAnon people happy and busy for the past couple of years in their, you know, brainwashing where they thought that there was going to be thousands of indictments and that people were going to go to Gitmo.
	You mean the 5,000 sealed indictments, Jonathan?
	But here's something, Sebastian, that is crazy when you think about it.
	All these conspiracy people, I do call those people conspiracy, from the QAnon, said that that was going to happen and that's why Gitmo was going to be held open.
	Do you know why Gitmo may possibly be held open indefinitely?
	Because the Biden administration and this weird legal system that we have is going to probably give those individuals from 9-11 Incredible, incredible.
	behind it, life sentences instead of death sentences, which means they'll have to stay in Gitmo permanently because of the law, they can't come into the United States.
	Incredible, incredible.
	It seems to me, if you look at the indictments that have occurred, the low-level indictments, now the case against Igor Danchenko, it looks as if Durham is protecting the people who he should be prosecuting, meaning the corrupt members of the Bureau, Jonathan.
	Right.
	As soon as I saw that, I was actually watching your show with Nunez on there, Devin Nunez, and I think that's who it was.
	And you guys were discussing this.
	And then I looked at some other headlines and I watched some other people comment on it.
	That's why I wrote you and text you because I was like, man, everybody's missing this one particular thing.
	And that's the fact that nothing happened to this guy, Dushenko, except they make him look like he just brought a bunch of lies and lied to the FBI.
	And that's why this fake evidence occurred.
	And, you know, the reality is that fake evidence, the number of people that were involved, there was no if it truly was just because he lied.
	That means that the FBI failed by doing no backstop on the information that they got and no scrubbing of it.
	So it was a failure if that was the case, which means they're not qualified to do their job.
	But we actually know for a fact that many of these people were involved in crafting this far beyond DeShanko and even Christopher Steele.
	And the significance that Timothy Tebold, who shut down the Hunter Biden laptop investigation two weeks ago, was walked out of the FBI, escorted out of the building.
	Are they just trying to hush things up?
	Absolutely.
	I mean, they're trying to, I think what you're seeing here is a close, kind of a quiet close to the Durham investigation.
	I didn't even find any of this stuff online last night.
	I mean, I started looking on because I was going to do a Newsmax hit.
	I couldn't even find the stories on any of the news.
	They're trying to bring a quiet close to the Durham investigation and then leave this little soundbite that Igor Deschenko was the guy who just lied.
	And that's the way that occurred.
	And the reason that's important is because in the long run, the way the left and the way that the FBI and the DOJ and the Democrat Party work is, they'll put these whispers out, use the FBI and the DOJ to take action.
	And then they either, when the truth actually comes out, they just kind of do nothing or they make a little excuse and they just move on.
	And in large part, they're able to do that because the Republican Party does nothing to counter it.
	Where is the GOP?
	I want to ask what is the future of the FBI from this former G-man?
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	800-500-8384 reliefactor.com Alright, I'm just going to ask you if the FBI is going to be salvageable, alright?
	Okay.
	I think it's pretty, uh, it's like everything else.
	Nothing's going to happen.
	Yeah.
	Where did you work?
	CTCI?
	CRIM?
	What did you do?
	I was in on the criminal side and then, uh, and I did, uh, Asian organized crime and another group for, um, Half the time I was there and then went over to the counterterrorism division and ran the special events unit where I did all the threat assessments, did all the liaisoning and ran the special events security aspect for every major event in New York.
	Did you see the story from Carrie Pickett in the Washington Times?
	No, I haven't seen anything today.
	She said she's been talking to a whistleblower who said, basically, they've been told to find they have a quota, which is illegal.
	They've got to have a quota of white supremacist cases, they have to they have to gin up inside the bureau.
	And they can't find enough of them.
	That's because they don't exist.
	Right.
	Where white supremacy cases exist is in prisons.
	That's where they exist.
	But they also have black nationalists and everybody's divided amongst races in prison.
	And that's where really the Aryan race, and we're talking true white supremacists, that's where that flows.
	But interestingly enough, when they get out of prison, those cases don't usually continue.
	Well, because it's a function for self-protection inside the prison, right?
	Right, right.
	And that type of hatred doesn't work on the outside, and even psychopathic criminals know that.
	So you're never probably in this day and age, you're not going to know if somebody is a true white supremacist.
	You're just not going to know it.
	And so those cases don't exist because they don't go anywhere.
	Right.
	It's all those white supremacist marches, you know, when they were burning down cities like Seattle.
	It's all of those big, big white supremacist riots.
	They even call black people though, a white supremacist if they're a, if they're a conservative.
	I've literally seen that.
	Well, look, they called Larry Elder the face, the face of white supremacy, the black face of white supremacy.
	Larry Elder.
	I mean, that's so.
	That's so ridiculous.
	It's just, it's laughable.
	But at the same time, that speech that Joe Biden gave is the exact same thing.
	He goes up there and calls us what they are.
	They accuse us of doing what they do.
	Right.
	Well, it's like Dennis Prager says, whatever the left is accusing you of doing, it's what they are doing themselves.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Biden just said that we have to end the story of our time, which is white supremacy.
	End the story of our time?
	We can't let this be the story of our time anymore.
	But he's the guy who called, you know, the Grand Cagle of the Ku Klux Klan, a fine gentleman.
	You know, when I was on Breitbart, I hosted Breitbart this morning and Mayorkas, I made the comment that Mayorkas looks like a snake, but a snake that would just bump you.
	It doesn't have the ability to really bite because it's too wimpy and it has no masculinity whatsoever.
	So that's why I wasn't on Breitbart this morning.
	You were hosting for Alex?
	Yeah.
	Is that why you're a little bit low energy?
	Has it been a long day for you, Jonathan?
	I was up.
	I never slept until just a little while ago.
	Wake up, man!
	Wake up, man.
	Wake up.
	I don't know.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
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	We're back with former G-man, former SEAL.
	I don't know whether he's a G-man, whether he's a frogman.
	He's just a patriot.
	He is the host of the Experts podcast, Sheep No More is his book.
	You can follow him on Twitter at JGilliam, like William with the G underscore SEAL.
	That's JGilliam underscore SEAL.
	Jonathan, you're a former G-man, former bureau agent.
	Kerry Pickett, in today's Washington Times, from a source inside the bureau says, and this is illegal, they have quotas of how many white supremacist cases they have to find and they can't meet the quotas because there aren't enough white supremacists in America to justify the threat assessment that Biden just moments ago said is the story of our age, quote unquote.
	Given the political perversion, the distortion of what used to be the most prestigious Leo agency in the world, I gotta ask you, I know it's tough because you wore that badge, you served, you went through Quantico, is the Bureau salvageable?
	I think so.
	I think this is how, well, okay, I think so, but I don't think it will ever happen.
	Like the filibuster, having political appointees at the top of law enforcement agencies is what prevents any politician from saying that they need to get rid of them.
	But the ultimate, I think, solution is not to completely dissolve the FBI, because there's a tremendous amount of cases that are very important to this country to keep us safe.
	and a lot of people that love this nation that work there.
	However, there are a lot of bad people in the Bureau now that are far left.
	We had those individuals that took knees during the Black Lives Matter protests out of the same D.C. field office as all this other corruption comes.
	What I believe needs to happen is that headquarters needs to be dissolved, that the D.C. field office needs to be dissolved, and a leader needs to be picked from within the ranks of the FBI They need to be outside of DC and they shall not have relationships with any politician or political party.
	And I believe that is the way that you should do that.
	Yeah, that's a very interesting take to get rid of the WFO and the Hoover building.
	There's a piece in the Wall Street Journal by an agent of 30 years experience in the Bureau who said, the problem with the Bureau is the meeting that Mueller had with President Bush right after 9-11, where Bush ordered Mueller to take the FBI from bringing criminal investigations to preventing the next attack, which turned it from being law enforcement to being an intelligence agency that could be politicized.
	What do you think of that analysis from Agent Baker?
	So I was there when that happened, and I remember sitting through the new DIOG training, which was 18 hours of our investigative Bible, and I remember looking at the NYPD detectives, and we were looking at each other thinking, what's happening here?
	Who is this intelligence benefiting?
	The intelligence that we would feed up from our squad, we would end up being tasked by headquarters for things that we were already doing with information that we already knew.
	So that information was doing nothing for us as a squad.
	And I think that's the reality of what occurred, is that the intelligence It was, as always, for D.C.
	by D.C.
	and not for the people by the people.
	nothing for anyone because it was not based on effective intelligence like the CIA or the DOD.
	It was, as always, for D.C. by D.C. and not for the people by the people.
	So I think that's absolutely correct that that was when 9-11 caused the incompetent leaders to rise to the top.
	And this shift that Bush caused, 43, by tasking Mueller, who's one of the most incompetent leaders and arrogant leaders you'll ever see, he tasked him to do this.
	And the process that he came up with was completely ineffective, but also eliminated the reason that the FBI even exists, which is for law enforcement, not for intelligence.
	Yeah, I love his answer.
	You catch his answer right at the beginning.
	I think it can be salvaged, but it won't be salvaged.
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	I was with, uh, I was with, um, Tom Sudeikis and, uh, turning point all day yesterday.
	So that's why I didn't even sleep until just a little while.
	Are they, are they having an event?
	They just had a little private event and had, I came there and spoke and gave my books to them and they had, um, the guys from every black life matters come there.
	Cool.
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	Okay, uh, title for that one?
	Um... Something about the FBI?
	What needs to happen to the FBI?
	Mm-hmm.
	They're saying 510 for war room, by the way.
	Okay.
	90 seconds.
	To make sure that the folks that we encounter at the border be removed.
	Is it time to get the Babylon Bee guys back, Jeff?
	Yes.
	Yeah, probably.
	Yeah, we should get him back.
	What do you think?
	Are they too dry for now, or should we do them for now?
	Do both of them together.
	Oh yeah, that's good.
	good let's do both of them for now 30 you
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	Always.
	You've always got to be ready for anything.
	Eric, you're pretty politically clued up.
	Who is Senator Gary Peters?
	He is the junior senator from the great state of Michigan.
	Why have I never heard of him?
	People in Michigan haven't heard of him either.
	Don't worry.
	You're not alone.
	That's a good answer.
	So somebody I have heard of, Senator Ron Johnson, has issues with Gary Peters because he's a liar.
	He's a propagator of propaganda from the Kremlin and he's asking this individual for an apology.
	I don't think he got one.
	Cut four.
	Our now committee chairman, who was then committee ranking member, issued a press release.
	He said, Peters Wyden responds to a Republican effort to amplify Russian disinformation.
	He said, I generated a partisan political report that is rooted in Russian disinformation.
	Mr. Chairman, do you want to retract that false allegation now?
	Now that we know that the Hunter Biden laptop is accurate, that there has not been one scintilla of information provided in Senator Grassley's and my report that has ever been refuted.
	It was 100% accurate.
	And yet you, as ranking member of the committee, accused me repeatedly of soliciting and disseminating Russian disinformation.
	Do you want to retract your false allegation here that you issued in your press release on September 23rd?
	No, let's just focus on what we're trying to... Well, I'm focusing on this because this is exactly the type of harm we can do to our political process When you have these big tech companies engaging in political debate, censoring one side of the political spectrum, and amplifying the false allegations of another side.
	Conspiracy theorists don't want to apologize.
	Looks like we've got one on the line right now.
	Joe, Illinois, right in line two.
	Welcome to America First.
	Dr. G.
	Yeah, why has the United States government never released a video of the American Airlines 757 flying into the Pentagon?
	And I was listening and Rudy said that the temperatures were so high that it melted all the metal.
	The jet engine turbines are so highly heat resistant That... I don't even think that's possible.
	What are you talking about?
	How is steel made, Joe?
	How is steel made?
	Do you know how steel is made?
	I do, yeah.
	Okay, how is it made?
	Does a steel turbine jet engine come... Does a steel engine come fully made to the Boeing factory?
	Does a ferry deliver it to the Boeing factory?
	Well, it would just put people's minds at ease.
	Answer the question.
	How is steel made, Joe?
	It's made in the foundry.
	Yes, it's melted, right?
	You cretin.
	By fire.
	Get off my show, you moron.
	Line one, Mike, North Carolina.
	You guys make me angry.
	That guy was ridiculous, Dr. G. Anyway, I'm pretty suspect of all the clearly politically motivated seizures.
	So, why do you listen to my show?
	I'm really impressed that you listen to my show.
	Do you think one day you might actually grow a second brain cell?
	Goodbye, Mike.
	Give your mother her phone back.
	jumpsuits.
	Could this mean that you're getting arrested next?
	So why do you listen to my show?
	I'm really impressed that you listen to my show.
	Do you think one day you might actually grow a second brain cell?
	Goodbye, Mike.
	Give your mother her phone back.
	Let's go to Todd, Line 4, Atlanta.
	Yes, Dr. Gorka, I just wanted to point out that the 9/11 hijackers like Muhammad Atta were illegal aliens.
	They were visa jumpers.
	And they just recently apprehended Guatemalan illegals who were armed and planning a massacre on July 4th.
	And, you know, we had to remember that under Obama, You had not just Clintonistas and Obama-nista Marxists, but he also has plenty of Muslim Brotherhood connections.
	He met with them over 3,000 times.
	He released five of them to get Bo Bergdahl back.
	He released them from FITMO, and they're running things in Qatar right now.
	Biden leaving $85 billion worth of American equipment in Afghanistan for the Taliban.
	In an open border, I just see nothing but trouble coming from that.
	There is.
	Your comment is very timely.
	They were here on visas.
	They outstayed the visas.
	And in a report that was issued, I think on Monday, that visa loophole that was exploited by the 9-11 hijackers, right now, Todd, there are 600,000 people in America illegally as a result of that visa loophole that is still in existence.
	And who knows what their plans are.
	Thank you, Todd.
	Let's go to Mike in Ohio, line two.
	Mike, welcome to America First.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Fine, sir.
	I just wanted to give you a little bit of information firsthand to refute The issue about jet fuel melting the beams or whatever they're talking about.
	I was in the Navy.
	I worked with aircraft shipboard firefighting.
	I was on board the USS Nimitz standard operational procedure.
	If one of those plane catches on fire, it's to push it off the deck because minute the alloys and titaniums that make the structure of the plane, Get to their flashpoint.
	They burn and they produce their own oxygen as they burn.
	And it can get over 3000 degrees.
	If you ever watch the films of the forest stall, they had playing parts melt through two decks of the aircraft carrier before they could put it out.
	So anybody says that a plane burning can't melt steel.
	They're wrong.
	Yeah.
	And one of the lightest alloys that is used for military purposes is also magnesium.
	And as soon as magnesium catches fire, Mike, you know, it burns with a white white heat.
	Yes.
	That's why they push them off the deck.
	You can see the footage.
	They continue to burn at the bottom of the ocean.
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	Is there anything I need to play that I haven't played?
	Yeah, well you played one of Pierre.
	You played the immigration clip, Adams.
	Oh, can you cut and play Cut 9?
	I'm sorry, you want to see Cut 9?
	Yeah.
	Oh, T8 off Cut 9, okay.
	Alright, T. Are you playing it?
	Play Cut 9?
	Alright, give it.
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	Incredible.
	Alright.
	I'll routine that up.
	Nah, I probably won't get to it.
	I don't have time.
	I'm sorry?
	I don't have time.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
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	Ray in Livermore.
	Welcome, Ray.
	Thank you, Dr. G. Thank you for bringing on guys like Jonathan Gilliam and Jack Carr.
	For their insight.
	These guys have clear vision and clear thought on everything, and it's wonderful to hear their opinions.
	But thank you for bringing the lunatics and the tinfoil hat crowd, like the guy with the 9-11 conspiracies.
	Every one of those conspiracies has been debunked by a magazine called Popular Mechanics.
	This is no right-wing magazine, but they went one by one through every one of those and put them down.
	And these people do not know what they're talking about.
	Ray, I don't understand, and this is just, you know, besides being a conservative radio show host, how do people like that function?
	I mean, like Rosie O'Donnell, who think that steel is magically produced and isn't melted in a foundry.
	How do people like that just function and buy the groceries every day?
	I don't get it.
	Well, Rosie O'Donnell is a metallurgist, if I'm not mistaken.
	Wait a minute.
	No, she isn't.
	It's called willful ignorance, Doctor.
	They want to believe what they want to believe, so you have to avoid things that conflict with what you know or what you think you know.
	It's bias confirmation, and they're stuck in a loop.
	Yeah.
	No, absolutely.
	Thank you, Ray.
	Keep doing what you do.
	Let's go to Matt in North Carolina, line one.
	Matt.
	Hello, Dr. G. How have you been?
	Good!
	What's up?
	What's a comment?
	What's a question?
	My question is, these idiots that call you up and make you mad, it really aggravates me.
	They do not know what welding is.
	It's melting steel.
	Or an oxy-acetylene torch.
	Have they never seen an oxy-torch cut straight through steel like butter, Matt?
	Like I do?
	Yes, I guess they didn't.
	So they're idiots.
	And they don't belong on your show, sir.
	So is that your field of employ, or is that just your hobby?
	What do you do, Matt?
	How do you know about this stuff?
	As part of the things I do with my life, I'm a CAO of a ring construction company.
	But this is the thing.
	I think Biden, my most important point, Dr. G, I'm trying to hurry it up.
	I think the whole, which I told Mr. G, your producer, I said, the whole Biden crew needs to be thrown out for not protecting the Constitution of the United States.
	Yeah, but how are we going to throw them out?
	It's up to us to get politically involved, every single one of us.
	If my wife, who hates politics, can become a senior election official, then everybody out there should be running for office, should be shoulder-to-shoulder with somebody who is, or should be helping to stop those who want to steal our next election.
	You're absolutely right, Matt.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	of superb content, one of my favorite YouTube channels with the best name out there.
	I'm so jelly.
	It's Mr. Reagan.
	Chris Coles, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Why are you laughing at your own content?
	You're supposed to be aloof.
	You're supposed to be a creator.
	Well, it's an old video and I haven't seen it in a while.
	It is funny.
	So of all the videos, the AOC, who's behind AOC, I think made you super famous.
	The Gillette parody of their absurdly woke advertisement is one of the best.
	Did you have a favorite out of all the things on the Mr. Reagan channel?
	You know, my favorites change as I make new content.
	I really like what I've been doing recently with, you know, the Biden devil speech, which we'll talk about soon.
	You know, I made a video I really enjoyed doing just because the Democrats are the gift that keeps on giving.
	They are so ridiculous.
	They're constantly producing content for us.
	It's like, I didn't necessarily choose this job, this job chose me, and in a way I'm very lucky because the content never stops, right?
	Just scroll down libs of TikTok and you have content, you know what I mean?
	Absolutely.
	Well, you did do a recent video, the title is, has Joe Biden red-pilled America?
	Let's show a little bit of the content of how Joe Biden is red-pilling America, ending up with his demonic speech in front of Independence Hall in Philadelphia.
	Let's do it.
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	I've been able to bring some Republicans along on parts of my plan.
	But the fact is, Republicans in Congress are still in the grip of the ultra-MAGA agenda.
	I don't respect these MAGA Republicans.
	This is the MAGA gang.
	This is the MAGA crowd.
	I really mean it.
	Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic.
	But there's no question that the Republican Party today is dominated, driven, and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans.
	And that is a threat to this country.
	Yeah, if you voted for the most popular incumbent president in American history, you're the threat.
	Chris Coles, you're an actor, a writer.
	You're now a YouTube content provider.
	You know about narrative.
	You know about packaging, about branding, about presentation.
	You do it every single day.
	Are these guys so out of touch?
	Because I just think, as you said, they're constantly gifting us Things that mobilize our side.
	And I don't think MAGA or UltraMAGA is the insult.
	They think it is, Chris.
	No, no, no.
	They've made a huge mistake.
	They've made a huge miscalculation here.
	I believe that speech, the devil's speech, was written by a presidential historian.
	I forget the guy's name.
	Maybe Beschloss?
	Yeah, but I think it was Beschloss.
	I think, maybe.
	Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.
	Anyway, They're trying to craft a left-wing version of Donald Trump.
	That's what I think they're doing, right?
	Because what did Trump used to do?
	He used to create these branded names like Pocahontas, right?
	Like Sleepy Joe.
	And these were really effective.
	And people, you know, it was funny and people would laugh and this kind of thing.
	And Trump wasn't taking these names particularly seriously.
	There was something true about them, right?
	Pocahontas was because Elizabeth Warren was pretending that she had Indian blood so that she could claim to be an ethnic minority, right?
	Sleepy Joe was obviously because Joe Biden campaigned in his basement most of the time.
	You know, there was some truth to them, but for the most part, it was a bit of a joke.
	It was a way for Trump to, you know, have a little bit of fun.
	Joe Biden isn't trying to have fun here.
	There's nothing fun about casting your opponents as fascists, right?
	They're taking that very, very seriously.
	And calling us MAGA Republicans and thinking that that's somehow going to be derisive, it's just going to backfire.
	You know, we're just going to take it for ourselves.
	We're going to call ourselves MAGA Republicans.
	We're going to wear t-shirts that say Ultra MAGA.
	We're going to wear t-shirts that say I'm a MAGA Republican.
	You know, of course, of course it's going to backfire because, you know, what's the old phrase?
	The left can't meme?
	Right.
	It's never going to work because they don't know how to brand us negatively.
	Because the truth is, Democrats know deep down in their heart that we are not the fascists that they're pretending that we are.
	This is the key question.
	Every single day I struggle with an answer to it because I think I live in the real world.
	I talk to real people.
	I just spent last weekend in New York with the firefighters of the FDNY, by the way, all of whom are Trump supporters.
	When they recognized me, they came up and said, he's running, right?
	He's running.
	He's coming back.
	So, you know, the salt of the earth.
	And I just, I still can't decide.
	And you know these people because you've lived and worked in Hollywood.
	I'm not sure whether they know that we're not fascists or whether they really believe their own rhetoric because I'm confused as to whether anyone with a treble-digit IQ can really think that standing up in front of Independence Hall and calling 74 million Americans fascists and an imminent threat to the United States, that they think that's not going to be detrimental to their chances in the election.
	It sounds like you're convinced you know they are duplicitors and they're not actually hostages to their own ideology.
	Am I putting words in your mouth, Chris?
	Yeah, well, I think that you're being a bit generous with Biden's IQ there, but the people that control Biden should certainly know this, right?
	The people that control Biden should certainly know this.
	The reality is that there is a sort of gradation of leftist voters, right?
	There are voters that genuinely believe that None of the politicians, none of the puppeteers of Joe Biden really think that conservatives are fascists, that Trump supporters are dangerous.
	They know that we're not.
	Obviously, this is a lie.
	It's the voters that really matter.
	Are they going to buy it?
	And the problem is that a lot of voters have relatives and good friends, close friends, who are Republican.
	You know, if your grandma is a Republican, and Joe Biden's up there saying, you know, your grandma is controlled and being manipulated by these evil MAGA Republicans, these dangerous terrorists, you know, it sort of implies that she's a dangerous terrorist.
	And I don't think most leftists are going to go, yeah, you know, my grandmother, or my nan, if you're British, is this dangerous terrorist.
	They know that she isn't, and they know that they're Republican friends who are golfing with them on the weekend.
	are not terrorists, and so it's just going to fall flat.
	I don't think this hysterical rhetoric is going to work, and the only reason they're doing it is because they can't debate on policy.
	But then again, they've never been able to debate on policy.
	It's always hysteria.
	It's always something.
	It's climate change, or it's always something to scare the population into voting Democrat.
	Vote for us, or else the white supremacists are going to get you.
	They're going to end health care in America.
	They're going to take away your abortion rights.
	It's always some kind of fear-mongering demagogy, something to terrify the population so that they come out in force and vote Democrat because we're the ones that are going to save you.
	We're the good guys.
	How many people – and typically, Democrat voters are gullible, and they believe that.
	But there's – like I said, there's a gradation, and the people that are a little bit more toward the middle, and there are some somewhat sensible Democrats.
	They're just people that don't pay that close attention to politics, right?
	And they take that sort of, um, they take that glimpse of politics where Democrats are like, Republicans are racist.
	And they go, well, I don't really want to be associated with a racist.
	I guess I'll vote Democrat, you know?
	So they're not really paying attention to politics, but they are.
	They have some sense to them.
	And so when they see something like this, I think it wakes them up and it forces them to be introspective and to say, do I really agree with Joe Biden here that Republicans are fascists?
	I'm not sure that I do.
	The one thing that makes me think that they're completely out of touch is when What day is it?
	It was the day before yesterday when they had a party on Tuesday.
	They had a party in the White House to celebrate the Inflation Reduction Act.
	Yes, the success of the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act.
	We still have shortages of baby formula, but they're having parties in the White House.
	I really do think this is Marie Antoinette on steroids.
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	I think that's the way the system is supposed to work, even if you are, you know, not sure why you're being with the spotlight on you.
	And therefore, I really believe that at the end of the day, no one is above the law and no one should be escaping accountability if indeed the facts and the evidence point to them having done something that anyone else in our country would be investigated for and maybe even charged.
	Yeah, like you.
	Why weren't you charged for the dozens and dozens of top-secret emails on your private server, 35,000 of which you actually deleted?
	That's Hillary Clinton giving an interview on CNN.
	She is the poisoned gift that keeps on giving.
	You've done a recent video about HRC, Mr. Reagan.
	Tell us about her performance on The View.
	Why doesn't she just go off and play with her grandchildren or murder somebody else, as it is alleged?
	I mean, seriously.
	You know, it's funny that you happened to go hang out with the firemen over there in New York, because Hillary Rodham Clinton also went and hung out with the ladies of the fire department there in New York.
	I don't know if you're aware of that.
	I am not!
	I am not!
	Do tell!
	Yeah, yeah.
	And because they did this show for, I believe it was for Hulu, called Gutsy.
	Oh no, Apple TV, I believe.
	Called Gutsy.
	Which is not, I'm sorry, let me just be rude here, misogynistic.
	Not a good title for a TV show hosted by Hillary Clinton.
	Do you concur?
	I absolutely concur.
	I mean, she's been writing the coattails of Bill Clinton for her entire career, essentially, being Essentially gifted political positions her entire adult life.
	So did you actually watch this show?
	You said she went to visit some... I'm going to watch it.
	I don't... I'm gonna have to get drunk or something.
	I'm not really sure.
	Get a bottle of Ardbeg, you know, scotch or something and just sit there and watch.
	But no, it's... So she says on The View, she says that they say, what's the gutsiest thing that you've done?
	And she says, well, doing this show was really gutsy because, you know, we did all these crazy things.
	She goes, you know, I learned to tango.
	I'm like, OK, that's I don't know if that's gutsy, but all right.
	What else?
	She's like, oh, we made acorn soup.
	Hang on, hang on.
	No, no, this is a Mr. Pagan satire skit.
	She didn't say dancing the tango and making acorn soup is gutsy.
	Are you joshing me?
	Is it April 1st?
	If you don't want to watch the actual view episode, watch my take on it.
	It's hilarious.
	And then her daughter says, Oh, but wait, she didn't do everything because when we went to go visit the women of the fire department in New York, they asked us if we wanted to try on the gear.
	And she said, my daughter would be happy to.
	And so I'm thinking, okay, so you refuse to try on clothing.
	Courage!
	True courage!
	This show's called Gutsy and you refuse to try on clothing, but you know, I'm glad you played that clip because yeah, this idea that we need to go after Trump, I have a theory.
	I have a theory here.
	I believe that there is a group of Democrat con men that got together and they wrote a list of crimes up on a whiteboard at some point.
	Maybe this was even before Trump was elected president.
	And they wrote a list of Laws, right?
	They scoured the books and they said, okay, which laws would prohibit somebody from being president?
	Because if you think about all the laws that they have gone after Trump for, they're all laws that if you violate them, you can't be president, right?
	So collusion with the Russians, that would be treason, right?
	If you're convicted of that, you cannot run for president.
	You cannot be president ever.
	What was the other one?
	Insightment of insurrection.
	That's a very obscure law.
	But if you're convicted of that, you cannot run for president.
	And then there's this other obscure law about taking papers from a federal building.
	If you do that, you can't be president.
	Right?
	And people have pointed out that, okay, yes, if you take papers from the government building, you can't be president, but that doesn't apply to the actual president of the United States of America.
	But I don't think they knew that when they were writing up this list.
	I think they wrote up this list.
	They said, these are the laws that would prohibit you from being president.
	Let's go after Trump and try to frame him for each one of these things.
	And I am absolutely confident that Hillary Clinton was involved in that meeting, maybe even orchestrated it.
	And so she's been going after Trump in this ridiculous way for so long, and really she needs to be in prison.
	And I think that she's a bit scared because I think possibly the documents that they might have been going after, if it wasn't just a total frame-up, might have been with regard to Operation Crossfire Hurricane, which would have been the documents that he would need in order to prove that Hillary Clinton is actually guilty.
	The targeting of the Trump campaign, for those who aren't familiar, that's the NSA, CIA, FBI operation to try and penetrate the Trump campaign and then the Trump White House.
	Yeah, and if he had documents regarding that operation, They would almost certainly lead back to Hillary Clinton, and Hillary Clinton is at risk of going to prison, right?
	So I think it's possible that, at least partly, she's on this little campaign to get Trump arrested, because she knows that if that doesn't happen, there's a good chance she'll be arrested, because she is genuinely guilty.
	When you look at the latest things that have occurred in just the last 72 hours, the ambush of Mike Lindell, the 40 subpoenas for Trump associates, then the Danchenko revelation that Danchenko, the source for the dodgy dossier, the lies of the Steele dossier, was actually protected by the FBI as a fake CI, as a fake confidential informer.
	Do you think this is starting to blow back?
	Do you think this is going to be a boomerang for the left?
	You know, it's a tough call because they are so good at protecting themselves, and they're so good at propaganda, and it's amazing to me how few people ever get indicted for anything, ever get arrested for anything on the left.
	If you look at the Mueller investigation, there was that one attorney who was caught in prosecution.
	Junior attorney, yes.
	And it was just like, okay, obviously this guy's a scapegoat.
	He was obviously told, you know, we'll take care of you, you'll be fine.
	So he's found guilty of changing this email, right, of doctoring this email.
	And he doesn't even go to prison, you know.
	Not only does he not go to prison, he does like, you know, four minutes of community service.
	He has his law license.
	Clinesmith.
	Clinesmith.
	He has his law license reinstated a few months later so he's he's found guilty of forging a classified CIA document to represent the opposite of what it said about Carter Page so it could be used to justify secret surveillance for him against Carter Page in a FISA court warrant and then and then he's struck off the bar for about four minutes and then he's Reinstated in good standing.
	So yes, this is the reality of where we are.
	We're talking to Chris Colesley, channel on YouTube.
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	So let's just finish up on this topic, Chris, of what's happened in the last few days, because I'm just curious where you're at, where you are with regards to your personal reaction, because you are a conservative content where you are with regards to your personal reaction, because you You are bold.
	You're putting stuff out there about, you know, the darlings of the left like AOC.
	You're speaking truthfully about them.
	You're destroying the lies and the myths Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	That stuff is terrifying.
	And I will say that for somebody like me personally, it's not that big of a deal.
	whether you see the 40 recent subpoenas, my former colleague, Boris Epstein.
	How do you feel as an American?
	Are you worried?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	That stuff is terrifying.
	And I will say that for somebody like me personally, it's not that big of a deal.
	I obviously know several people personally who have been raided by the FBI for January 6th and this sort of thing.
	But at the point that they're raiding Mike Lindell's office and taking his phone, he doesn't have anything to do with anything.
	Like, he's just a guy who supports Trump.
	He's a business owner that supports Trump.
	There is absolutely no justification for that.
	There's not even the illusion of a justification.
	I don't even know how they're pretending that that's justified.
	At this point, we do live in a sort of like a banana republic, right?
	We live in this police state where it's like, well, if you disagree with big brother, then the Gestapo is going to come in and they're going to take your phones and they're going to intimidate you.
	If nothing else, it's intimidation.
	But it could be as bad as you will get arrested, right?
	I'm not – it does look like they're setting the stage for the arrest of Donald Trump, and I am actually kind of scared in terms of what's going to happen because they pretend that conservatives are basically ready for civil war at any point, right?
	We're all these kind of like crazy conspiracy theorists and that January 6th was this insurrection and all this kind of stuff.
	We know it wasn't, right?
	There was a guy in a Wookiee costume, you know, doing cosplay or something, and that guy was supposed to actually be this threat to democracy or something.
	We know that's ridiculous.
	However, there is a point at which the American people will have to rise up with revolution, right?
	There's a concept of what would cause a revolution.
	Right, an actual revolution in a country like America.
	What would cause some kind of a coup?
	And it would have to be a total takeover of the government by some kind of disingenuous force that has decided that they're going to end democracy.
	And at this point, it looks like the Democrats are trying to do something like that.
	That seems to be the perception, or at least they want conservatives to believe that they're doing that so that they do rise up against them.
	There does seem to be this idea that they want to create the illusion that conservatives are this irrationally violent group.
	They're not irrationally violent.
	However, if it gets to the point where conservatives genuinely believe that the government has been taken over by forces that will not relinquish power, And are just holding on to that power and democracy's over, right?
	Then there will be a revolution.
	There will be a civil war.
	And they won't win.
	Because you think that, like, I know they're trying to take out conservatives from the military and put in a bunch of, like, you know, gay servicemen and all this kind of crazy stuff.
	But it's not going to work.
	You will end up with a huge percentage of the military that will fight against them.
	And so if it does come down to some kind of violent action, which, I mean, I hope it never does.
	I really hope it never does.
	But if they push the American people far enough, eventually something is going to happen.
	And you think what they're doing right now is meant to engender that reaction?
	They want to trigger that violence?
	I think possibly they're getting there, but I do think that they know that the thing that will certainly trigger some people is the arrest of Donald Trump or an indictment of Donald Trump, right?
	Because if they do that, then they are basically trying to stop political opposition from running for president.
	And that is absolutely un-American, undemocratic.
	It would destroy the constitutional republic in which we live.
	And they are going to go... I think they're going to forward criminal referrals from the January 6th committee against Donald Trump.
	It sounds like you agree, Chris.
	You know, that would be such a radical thing to do.
	I pray that they don't do that.
	That would be a huge mistake on multiple levels.
	They're going to turn the entire country against them if they do that sort of thing.
	I mean, there are some Democrats that are so bought into everything that they will genuinely believe it, but there's a lot of people that this will terrify.
	They'll be like, okay, what are you doing?
	You know, what are you doing arresting Donald Trump?
	So I do think a majority of Americans will recognize the authoritarianism of the left if they ever do indict or arrest Donald Trump.
	There's a lot of people on Twitter going, yeah arrest him, yeah arrest him!
	But these are not the ordinary people.
	These are like lunatic leftists that are, you know, out of their minds.
	We're talking to Chris Coles.
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	All right, let's talk about your specific area of expertise, Chris.
	Let's talk about culture.
	Let's talk about the arts.
	You've done a recent scathing review of the new Lord of the Rings Woke TV series.
	Please do watch it on his channel.
	Give us your understanding, your review, your reaction to the spate of recent conservative content that's been put out there.
	We have from our colleagues here at Salem, we have the amazing Uncle Tom movie, the sequel Uncle Tom 2, which is incredible.
	We've got Breitbart distributing the My Son Hunter, the Hunter Biden comedy movie.
	We've got Daily Wire with the documentary What is a Woman?
	Then the Western, Terror on the Prairie.
	Are you excited or is this just a drop in the ocean?
	Are conservatives finally, Chris, understanding how important culture is?
	I don't think conservatives are understanding this, but I do think that Hollywood elites are starting to realize that that's where the money's at.
	And if they figure that out, then possibly, possibly at least some of the producers in Hollywood will be a little bit more lenient when it comes to producing Not necessarily conservative content, but not super woke leftist content.
	Yeah, I mean, look, that is where the money's at.
	There's a lot of money in this, and they're just leaving that money on the table in Hollywood by rejecting everything conservative.
	But then you've got films like Maverick that come out and just prove what we're saying.
	You know, it proves what we're saying.
	Now they're still coming out with these like crazy woke things like this Lord of the Rings adaptation which to me is just completely... Well, I'm not even prepared to even watch it because I'm a huge fan and my son's a huge fan of it.
	Will you tell us how bad it is?
	Okay, well, let me just say this.
	I don't think that they would have produced it the way that they did if they started making it today.
	I think the reason that they produced it the way that they did is because they started making it like a few years back, back when like the woke thing was all, you know, was like the big thing in Hollywood.
	And just, because they've spent a billion dollars on this show.
	What?
	That's more than any, yeah, yeah, more than any show in history.
	That's the estimate when you get all the marketing and everything calculated.
	They think it's a billion dollars for this show, which is completely insane.
	But what they've done is they've taken the concept of Lord of the Rings, that whole universe, that Tolkien universe, And they've gone, let's make it so that all the heroes in Middle Earth are women.
	They're strong, brave women.
	So it's this extremely feminist show.
	Extremely feminist.
	Where they introduce these Mary Sue characters.
	Mary Sue characters like a female character that can do no wrong.
	She's better than every man at everything.
	She's more physically strong.
	She's smarter.
	She's always right.
	Even when she's made a mistake, the mistake turns out by some lucky chance to be beneficial, right?
	So think of Rey in the new Star Wars movies.
	Exactly.
	Someone who doesn't need any training is a perfect Jedi Master the second they pick up a lightsaber.
	So just the hero who never struggles.
	Yeah, they've done this with the show She-Hulk, the new show She-Hulk.
	So they're taking this material that has been popular in the culture previously, especially like Lord of the Rings isn't just popular in the culture.
	That's a seminal work.
	I mean, Lord of the Rings is One of these things that comes around once in like a hundred years that people go, okay, this changes the culture.
	This changes fiction.
	And they've taken this.
	They're just beloved by millions of people around the world.
	And not only have they brought in basically exclusively female heroes, they've taken – There's a character named Elrond, which is a pretty well-known character.
	He's in the Lord of the Rings films with Peter Jackson, played by the guy who is Agent Smith in the Matrix, right?
	Right, he's the King of the Elves.
	King of the Elves, yeah.
	Hugo Weaving, yeah.
	It's not explicit yet, but it looks like they've turned his character gay.
	They've made him a gay character.
	It seems like they may be going that way with a lot of the elf characters.
	And then they've also just sort of inexplicably made a lot of the characters black, or of some people of color, as the left likes to say, right?
	Not white characters.
	But the thing is, they haven't done it with any kind of consistency, right?
	So they've got this female Hobbit character, this young female Hobbit character, who's supposed to be like the female version of Frodo running around, wide-eyed, curious girl.
	And her mother's black.
	But she's white.
	She's not even half black.
	There's no indication that she's adopted, or that this is her stepmother or anything.
	It looks like they've just cast a black woman as her mother and basically just decided that... I'm sure that doesn't take you out of the fantasy at all.
	Well, it's bizarre, because it's not like... I'll tell you what, it's...
	As much as I think that leftists are sometimes trying to do something good with these things, like they genuinely think, oh, we've got to take all the white supremacists and show them that black people aren't evil.
	It's enough that that's this patronizing, idiotic lecturing, because the vast, vast majority of Americans are not racist.
	They don't really care about race.
	If you produced any kind of a project set in the modern age and you Brought in a multiracial cast.
	Nobody would even think twice about it.
	Everybody loves like the Fast and Furious movies.
	Or like Maverick, right?
	Where, you know, the mechanic is black.
	One of the fighter pilot aces is a Hispanic woman.
	But you don't care because it's not, you know, it doesn't matter.
	It's the modern age and that's normal, right?
	That's natural.
	That's real.
	But you take characters from essentially a medieval story, right?
	It's a fantasy version of a medieval story.
	And you bring in characters from Sub-Saharan Africa, which were not encountered by Europeans until, I believe, the 15th century.
	You know, the Portuguese.
	It takes you out of it because you're just thinking, this is not Middle Earth.
	This is not Medieval Europe.
	This is something else.
	It's anachronistic.
	And especially if the characters are related, and some of them are black and some of them are white, you can tell at a glance People's race, most of the time.
	Sometimes you can't.
	But for the most part, you can tell at a glance, this person is not the same race as that person.
	Right.
	And we just know in life that a black person wouldn't likely give birth to a white person.
	So it becomes this weird question that you're asking while you're watching the show and it does take you out of it.
	There's a lot of things wrong with the show in terms of the narrative, in terms of like a lot of stuff, but that is definitely a distraction and something that I find to be offensive really because they're just deciding to inject their own agenda into the project without any kind of respect or regard for trying to be authentic to the original material or trying to do something particularly that the fans are going to love.
	They don't care.
	They just want to produce their message.
	Or just to remove politics.
	Why does politics have to be forcibly injected into... And you're right.
	When you look at what C.S.
	Lewis and J.R.R.
	Tolkien wrote, these are seminal, seminal products of culture for the 20th century.
	We're talking to Chris Coles.
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	All right, I don't want to end this discussion on a downer, but you did say, Chris Coles, you did say that you don't think conservatives adequately understand the role of the culture despite some of the recent films that have been released.
	So give us your diagnosis of where we stand on the right in terms of production of quality culture.
	Yeah, see here's the problem.
	Most conservatives don't really care about fiction.
	That's what I've found.
	My brother, a lot of conservatives I know, they only read non-fiction.
	They only watch documentaries and maybe non-fiction, you know, Hollywood type films.
	And the reason is because, you know, fiction, fantasy doesn't affect them in real life.
	It's not as good of an insight into the human condition as a true story or as a documentary or as something that is factual.
	And so, and conservatives, we live in reality.
	We tend to live in reality.
	Fiction is something that most people consider to be escapism.
	I think this is a little bit of a mistake because you can learn a lot from exploring ideas that you wouldn't normally encounter in real life, and fiction allows you to do that and explore those things.
	But it's just something that's just not that attractive to conservatives.
	Now, the real problem with this is that on the left, the leftist brain, I would say, is very much Motivated and impacted by storytelling.
	And so unless you control the stories of a culture, you're not going to be able to have some kind of an influence on the minds of those who are influenced by those kinds of things.
	And so we basically just left storytelling up to leftists for the last 30, 40, 50 years.
	And it's gotten to be so bad now that the stories that are told out of Hollywood and places like this, have become this propaganda, essentially, that radicalizes leftists.
	And they have become more and more indoctrinated.
	I think that what's even worse, though, is what's going on in universities.
	And we do need to go after that.
	We do need to figure out a way.
	And we've just been so bad at this.
	We've done so bad about talking to young people in the classroom and through our popular culture.
	To try to explain that socialism is bad and that this idea of critical theory and all these different ideas are cancerous, essentially.
	They are, to use the leftist phrase, they are toxic.
	They really are toxic to the culture.
	They've infected the culture and they are destroying the culture in many ways, and you do end up with groups like Antifa and BLM being popular, destroying cities and, you know, somebody on CNN going, uh, it's a mostly peaceful protest as, you know, the building falls down behind him.
	Right.
	Look, I just want to commend you because you are one of the few people pushing back, whether it's your review of the She-Hulk or Hillary Clinton.
	I don't know which is which if I've mixed those up.
	It's the How Biden Red Pilled America, the review of the the woke Lord of the Rings TV show.
	I'm just going down the list of the content on his channel.
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	Thank you, Chris, for doing what you do.
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