I think that just as Trump and that MAGA wave fueled her ascendance, she felt that after January 6th, that she was going to be on the cutting edge of the destruction of Donald Trump.
But the more people learned about her committee, that she was vice chair, and the star chamber nature of it, and the lack of true cross-examination, and some disturbing details, then they started to ask questions, and it wasn't so resonant anymore.
It's kind of like, you know, the Greeks said, whomever the gods want to destroy, they make crazy.
So then she doubled down and doubled down in the way that John Bolton or Bill Kristol have.
To take two examples, they think that my Washington fetes and influence will finally convince these people out there, the Rubes, that I'm right.
And they get it.
They get radical, they get excessive, and then they end up comparing themselves to no politician.
That's a cardinal rule in American politics.
You never compare yourself to Abraham Lincoln.
That's a pretty good rule.
What did I say yesterday?
If I ran for president, if I managed to get the constitutions changed and was elected, even then I wouldn't compare myself to Abraham Lincoln.
The great, the superlative, Victor Davis Hanson.
And why was Tucker grinning so much?
That's just an 80 second clip from his show.
Because in 80 seconds, not only does he throw in the ancient Greeks, the rubes, also the word exegesis.
That's why he is one of the...
Best, brightest we have, and most courageous.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First, coming to you live from just outside.
A rank, fetid, thank you, who was our caller?
Was it Leonardo?
Malodorous swamp that is Washington, D.C.
He got it.
I've been wondering, can we explain what happened?
With Cheney, with one of the scions of one of the political dynasties in America, all four of which have now been destroyed by President Trump.
And he nailed it.
I mean, how weird!
How weird, just that one stat.
She voted with President Trump 94% of the time!
But then what happened?
Then, she saw the events of January 6th.
That we still don't have a requisite explanation for.
Yes, some hotheads doing stupid things.
But why did Nancy Pelosi refuse the President's offer of the National Guard?
Why is there video of police officers taking down barricades and inviting protesters into the building?
And why do we have self-avowed BLM anarchists, people who have been on video cameras screaming, I'm a revolutionary, right there next to Ashley Babbitt, Yes, you know who he is.
That photographer by the name of Sullivan.
Right next to her.
Wearing MAGA gear.
Why do BLM and Antifa supporters wear red hats on January the 6th?
And why are there thousands of minutes of footage yet to be released by the police?
That occurs and Liz Cheney makes a very, very bad strategic decision.
What the GOP thought for four years, that he's just an anomaly.
Donald Trump is a glitch in the system.
And January 6th is our moment!
We can get rid of him!
We can kick him out of our Uniparty.
Get him away from all those lovely greasy deals.
The jobs we get.
The board memberships after we leave government, all the lovely... How much money did she make in the scant time she's been on Capitol Hill?
Millions and millions of dollars on a Congresswoman's wage.
How is that?
So she made the decision, I'm gonna ride the wave of anti-Trump sentiment.
I may have voted with him 94% of the time, but now I'm gonna take a large dagger And just like Brutus, I'm gonna stab Julius Caesar.
Not in the back, but in the front.
Et tu, Cheney?
What a miscalculation.
Because he's not the anomaly.
He's not the blip on the radar screen that will fade into irrelevance.
Don't get me wrong, I thought it was going to be hard to recover from January the 6th.
But now as we find out all the strange things about that day, you know, Darren Beatty's coverage at the revolver of that strange pipe bomb with the egg timer that sat under a bench right outside the party headquarters for over a day and nobody saw And the secret service sniffer dogs didn't find it.
How is that possible?
And the footage of the person who left the pipe bombs there.
Amazingly the one camera that has the full frontal of his face.
We don't have the footage from that camera.
Why is that?
They thought they could get rid of him and they failed.
We're gonna ask Matt Boyle in a few moments.
What's his batting average?
Before Wyoming it was 111 for 9?
In the history of the United States, no political force, former president or newspaper editorial board, has a batting average like that.
Basically unbeatable.
You get his stamp of approval, you're MAGA, you're America first, you're gonna crush it, not just as an unknown in a race of unknowns, you're going to beat the woman who has the name Cheney, In Wyoming, but not by a slim margin of a couple of votes, by 37%!
Beaten by a woman that nobody... I'm pretty into politics.
I hadn't heard of Hagerman before six months ago.
Only people in Wyoming have.
You're going to flood the zone with money from California and you still can't win?
Seven million dollars Cheney burnt.
Seven million dollars on her primary.
And she's toast.
She's dead.
She's buried.
Her political career is over.
That's what the establishment saw in Donald Trump.
Let's get back to business.
Footsie under the table.
We're the Democrats.
We're the lobbyists.
We're the quote-unquote special interests.
But no.
Just like Ben Kenobi in Star Wars.
In the original, the first, the best.
The evil forces try to strike him down.
And he's more powerful than he's ever been before.
It has to be Donald Trump.
It will be Donald Trump if we do our work.
Why does it have to be him?
Very simply, because the system is corrupt to the core.
It is rotten to its heart.
And there is nobody who will have the commitment to tear it up root and branch other than the man who has been assaulted and attacked and politically persecuted for six years non-stop.
From the Billy Bush tapes through to Mueller probes, impeachments, the Southern District of New York, the raiding of his wife's closet by armed FBI agents.
Who's going to take revenge on the corrupt government, the bureaucrats who think presidents come and go but we're in charge?
Yeah, Ron DeSantis is great.
Ron Paul is great.
But there's only one man who truly knows the depravity of the permanent bureaucracy.
And that's Donald Trump.
It's his party now.
He will run.
Are you assisting in making it possible that every America First candidate in America wins?
It's up to you.
You better be running, or you better be helping somebody to run.
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Oh no, my teleprompter didn't work. my teleprompter didn't work.
Oh no!
How will we ever recover?
I know!
Um, any more cuts you want to hear?
I think I've... Um... What do we know about this Lombardo guy?
When I first saw the name I thought- I'm pretty sure he has no chance if you're running an ad like that.
Yeah.
Let me see cut 5.
Our party stands with the men and women who serve on the thin blue line at the federal and state and local level.
And these attacks on the FBI must stop.
Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police.
The truth of the matter is, we need to get to the bottom of what happened.
We need to let the facts play out.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
All right.
He's just hoping they find something.
Well look, it's easy for him because nobody went after him.
Right?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But you can't seriously think he has a chance on his own, does he?
No, yeah.
Healy at this point.
He should be there.
Hey, pull him up.
I think he should be there, Alex.
We drive around for four years like you're the president, that's why.
And not having to take any real decisions.
Yeah, you don't have to do anything.
Right.
Yes, except for one day, which you didn't know.
Yeah, can you guys hear me?
Yes.
All right, guys, we are confirmed.
Can you write this down, Jeff?
We'll just remember it.
So it's gonna be Hanson Thursday and Schlichter Friday.
Nice.
Because Grant is being flown by private jet to a club by his friends.
Oh, wow.
Dr. G, are you going to use a food for the poor audio?
Um, yeah.
Come in with the second one.
The reporter.
Have you got that one?
The BBC one?
That we used by mistake once.
Is this it?
This one's checking.
You keep away from the windows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Come in with that one.
Alright, Alex?
How are we doing, Matt?
Doing great, Dr. G. How are you, sir?
What a glorious week this is, right?
What a week.
So first we get rid of the Wicked Witch of the West, and now we get rid of the evil demon from New York, right?
Oh, yes!
Stelty!
I've got to talk about Stelty.
All right.
All right.
Come in with that Stelta liner in C, please, Alex.
All right?
In C. Not now, but in C.
I'm melting!
I'm melting!
We've got to get that off YouTube.
I'm melting, I'm melting.
We've got to get that off YouTube.
One minute.
I had that on my sound box.
Did you see the video that Trump's guy Taylor sent out on Twitter?
No!
where it's Trump dancing and then it's set to the tune of...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did exactly the same one.
It's so good.
It's so good of Trump dancing.
We played that song.
We opened the show.
I've watched it at least 50 times in the last two days.
It's so good.
Jeff, what was the thing you said you were going to get for me later?
Clams off.
Oh, North thing.
All right.
Oh, North thing. North thing.
I'm sorry.
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No one better to analyze it with than the man who, he's in charge of Washington!
He is the Bureau Chief for The Swamp at Breitbart.com.
He's a regular, great friend of the show.
Matt Boyle of Breitbart, welcome.
Dr. G, always a pleasure.
Great to be here.
A lot going on this week.
Yeah, I'm so sad that I'm in our new studio.
I don't have my sound box with the 50 little buttons of tunes I can play.
And one of them was the, I'm melting!
I'm melting!
From, you know, the Yellow Brick Road and the Wizard of Oz.
Talk to us about the significance.
It's four, four political dynasties.
It's the Clintons.
It's the Bushes.
It's the McCains.
And now it's the Cheneys that Donald Trump has defeated.
Right.
He's defeated four major political dynasties.
By the way, we've had a political dynasty of those four families you just mentioned.
There's been somebody in office somewhere in America since all the way back in the 1970s.
So it's been half a century.
It took Donald Trump coming along to go take them all on, and piece by piece he's ripped them all apart.
He took out the Bushes in 2016, then he took out the Clintons, the Cheneys as well, and obviously the McCains along the way.
And the fact of the matter is, by the way, also depending on what happens in Alaska later this year, We could see the Murkowski family, which has been in office in the U.S.
Senate for close to 50 years, get wiped out as well.
And that primary was on Tuesday night as well.
But it's a weird rank-choice voting system.
So both candidates advance to the general election, and we'll see what happens in November there.
But Kelly Chewbacca's looking real strong.
She's endorsed by President Trump, and we'll see what happens there.
We've had her on Breitbart a ton this year, and if she wins, that will be another political dynasty that Donald Trump has taken out.
But the fact of the matter is that people are looking at this and saying, didn't we fight a revolution to stop the royal families?
We don't have royal families in America.
We have elected officials that represent us.
Look, our friends across the pond, good for them, they've got their royal families and so on and so forth.
We don't have that here in America.
America is supposed to be the land of opportunity.
We have a Declaration of Independence.
The US Constitution.
We don't have royal families here.
And so it's a big deal that President Trump has taken on these dynasties and destroyed them.
As for Liz Cheney in particular, what an absolute, embarrassing, decisive defeat of Liz Cheney.
I mean, there was just a blowout on Tuesday night.
An absolute blowout.
All the polls were wrong the wrong way.
Right?
So they were wrong in that they underestimated Harriet Hageman in her phenomenal victory, and they overestimated Elizabeth Cheney.
I think Cheney thought she was going to get a lot closer than she really did, and that's why she brought in the entire national news media and the January 6th producer and all this stuff to put on their big production that night.
But like, look, here's the thing.
If anything, what this demonstrates is, okay, so eight of the ten impeachment Republicans are gone.
The other two survive for now, for this cycle.
We'll get them next time.
But the point is that, and there's still a lot of ones in the Senate, like Murkowski and whatnot.
She's the only one that's running for re-election this year.
But the swamp is very deep across the media and whatnot.
So we're chipping away at it piece by piece, but we're not going to beat the swamp in one No, that's why we have to have President Trump in the White House.
But how significant is it, I mean, that this woman, 37 point defeat, and now she's considering running for president, Matt?
I hope she runs.
I really do.
I think it would be great for President Trump if she runs.
She should run in both the primary and as an independent in the general.
And by the way, I fully support Liz Cheney running for president against President Trump, because what it will do is it will create a foil for President Trump, and Trump can just beat the crap out of her all day, politically, because the American people don't believe in the endless wars.
They don't believe in the—this wasn't just a defeat of Liz Cheney's Trump hatred.
Yes, it was that, but it was also a defeat of everything the Cheney and Bush family stand for.
Yet again, the American people and Republican voters across the country reject globalism.
They don't like the globalists.
They don't like these open trade deals.
They don't like open borders.
They don't like the out-of-control immigration.
They don't like the endless wars, right?
I mean, look, maybe we'll eventually find those weapons of mass destruction that Jake Dick Cheney told us about, but I don't think so, right?
So the fact of the matter is that I think it was a rejection of everything they stand for in addition to her Trump hatred.
So all of that stuff combined.
I've got to ask you quickly, we'll keep you on for one more segment, but right now, given the president's success rate, what are you predicting for the midterms?
50, 60 seats?
What's your guess?
Well, the Senate's tough, right?
It's a lot of defense for Republicans.
No, no, the House.
The House.
Oh, the House?
It's going to be a big night.
I think the Republicans are going to take the House.
I don't want to give you an exact number off the top of my head because, honestly, I change a lot on this, so I don't want to go on the record with one.
But I do think it's going to be a big night for the Republicans.
And look, people need to keep working at it nonstop.
It's not over yet.
It's never over until it's over.
Hang on, hang on.
I've got to correct you there.
Sorry.
This is where I step in to correct you.
It's never over until it's over.
Matt Boyle for Liz Cheney.
It's over.
We're talking to the Washington bureau chief of Breitbart.com.
He is on Truth Social because I pestered him for so long to get back on Twitter.
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I know.
No, I love it.
You're 100% right.
So let's come in with the Stelter liner, Alex, okay?
Yep.
And then you notice that I did PhD there and not in A, right?
What's this?
That's the Berenson article.
Okay, and then is this all his books?
That's the press back.
Okay.
But he said he'll talk about China, Afghanistan, Biden's first year, all that.
Okay, good.
Good, good, good.
Do you also want to hit the stuff on the court?
Yes.
Like the FBI DOJ thing?
Yeah, because that's breaking news.
Let's talk about that.
You know I broke the warrant last week, right?
I know, and I immediately told Alex, well done.
Well done, you guys.
And he was very appreciative.
The media lost their minds on us all weekend.
I'll bring that up.
Good.
Congratulations, dude.
That was a big one.
But they flipped out on us.
So now he's saying he's only gonna get selective... Yeah, but it's a big step.
It's a big step that the judge disagreed with the DOJ.
Normally speaking, all these people just all agree together.
But the judge is starting to feel the heat that he's like, alright, you gotta do something here, guys.
You can't just keep this a secret forever.
Is this the same judge who signed off on it?
Yes.
So the judge is starting to feel the heat, if you will.
He's not even a judge, he's a magistrate.
Right.
Got any titles in mind for Mr. Benjamin?
Yeah, for the monologue, White has to be Trump.
Yes.
The real reason why it has to be Trump.
Then, what should we call it?
Let's, shall we... Sargon was so good.
So many good things, yeah.
Something about, like, you know, Trump being the protagonist.
Or like, the villains of the story or something like that?
Yeah, um... Why the Trump story has to end this way.
Do you know who Sargon of Akkad is, Matt?
Uh, no.
He's a podcaster.
Carl Benjamin from the UK.
Really good guy.
I just had him on for an hour.
Okay.
When you're in DC, tell us and we'll have you in studio for an hour.
We can chat.
Yeah, definitely.
Maybe sometime in September.
So, I'm not sure yet.
If not, maybe October.
So, I'm not sure.
But I'm planning a fall one at some point or another.
Probably a pre-election one and then maybe a post-election one.
But I'm in a bunker right now all the way through.
So, like, this is it, baby.
80 days.
Did you see that email, Jeff, from Phil about our election night coverage?
No.
We're gonna do it from a bar somewhere in D.C., so get ready.
A bar in D.C.?
Yep.
I wonder which one.
I don't know.
30 seconds, Matt.
Stand by.
Just wear your cowboy hat.
You're welcome.
News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
America first.
Hey, Alex, whose voice is that on the bumper there?
Can you help me out?
Stelter.
Is that Brian Stelter?
Yes, sir.
Okay, that's interesting.
Good choice of line.
Let me just read something to you.
This is from CNN's spokesperson.
Quote, CNN will end its Reliable Sources program on Sunday, August 21st.
As a result, Brian Stelter will leave the company.
We appreciate his contributions to the network and wish him well as he embarks on his new adventures as Mr. Potato Head.
What does this mean for the mainstream media?
Brian Stelter, I thought he was like, you know, he was CNN Matt Boyle.
Yeah, I mean, he really was.
He was the face of the network.
This is a total embarrassment for the network.
By the way, it's embarrassing for him too.
I mean, not only are they getting rid of the guy, they're canceling the show that has been on the air for 30 years.
Reliable Source has been on the air for 30 years and it wasn't always like a political hackery show from CNN.
There was a time when CNN used to be like at least like somewhat establishment media and they went really really left in like the last 10 years and that's when Stelter really started.
I think it was five years ago or something like that that he took over the show.
He had a blog.
He was a blogger and then they gave him a show and he's been an embarrassment since the get-go.
Goodbye, Brian.
However, let's talk about some real journalism.
Who was it that broke the warrant for the Mar-a-Lago raid at Breitbarton Mad?
Who did that?
That was me.
So we put it up, we had it all out Friday afternoon, about two hours before the court actually unsealed, formally unsealed the document.
We got the warrant ahead of everybody else and had it out on Breitbart.
Let's put it this way, the entire establishment media was not very happy with us.
Well, I'm very impressed.
The second I saw it, I texted Alex Marlow, the editor-in-chief.
Very impressed that Breitbart got the documents from the court, got them.
However, the judge, Judge Reinhardt, who defended the Jeffrey Epstein pilot as an attorney, he has made a decision that parts of the affidavit may be released, but not all of them.
How significant is that, Matt?
Well, I think it's a big deal.
It's not the ultimate goal.
I mean, my view is complete transparency is the best way to approach this, and they should release the full document unredacted so the entire public can read it.
But the fact that the judge is disagreeing with the Justice Department is a big development.
The Justice Department has been engaged in extraordinary secrecy in this whole case.
Their opposition to releasing the affidavit is just one of many things.
In addition to that, they also, in their whole seizing of President Trump's passports and then lying about it to CBS News, which they did earlier this week, that's another instance of it.
A third instance of it is the refusal to appoint a special master to review.
A special master is an independent person who would review the documents that were seized during the raid.
A completely reasonable request from President Trump's team to review, to see if attorney-client privilege stuff was caught up in it.
And then the fourth big thing that I would point to is the Justice Department refusing to allow bipartisan – by the way, it's a bipartisan group of members of Congress that are asking for this, Republicans and Democrats, to review the materials to see if there are – Serious sensitive materials to national security in there or if there's just stuff that was like over classified before President Trump says that he's declassified at all and he's he just sent out earlier today on his true social the actual order that was out on the White House website on his last day in office January 19th 2021.
Where he declassified a whole bunch of different things, so one would imagine that that has to do with this.
But the point is that their refusal to allow even members of Congress with the highest security clearances on the House Intelligence Committee on a bipartisan basis to go review the documents.
They won't let Adam Schiff see the documents, never mind Mike Turner, Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jordan, those types of guys.
But then we don't have oversight.
Then Congress can't do oversight, Matt.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
In the entire secrecy of the Department of Justice, the lack of transparency here, Puts a huge cloud over this whole thing and undercuts their credibility and in ways that Other actions This is this is one of the worst things that they've ever done This is going to become the biggest scandal in Justice Department history and their their attempts to keep everything secret and to engage in this secrecy and lack of transparency are only further undermining their credibility
And at the end of the day, if you look at how everything boomeranged for Liz Cheney, do you think this rate is going to boomerang for the Democrats?
You've got 10 seconds, Matt.
Absolutely.
Every poll we're seeing already shows it, and every other indicator out there is showing it.
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And it's real and it's about a journalist.
And it is about the White House wanting to take action against the journalist.
They, quote, they, the White House, want to know about Alex Berenson.
Andy Slavitt, COVID advisor, suggested that they have seen data that he was the epicenter of disinformation towards this persuadable public.
That description of what was going on inside of Twitter is chilling, and we are delighted to have with us the man who won his fight, at least won this battle, against the censorious owners of Twitter, Mr. Alex Berenson, investigative journalist par excellence.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks for having me, Sam.
All right, so I know you won a settlement, the courts served you well, but tell us what happened to you and your Twitter account and what you found out had been done with the collusion of the White House.
Sure, so I will just say quickly, before I go into the full story, that isn't actually the worst communication that we've found so far.
Go ahead.
The worst one is another discussion on a Twitter Slack channel.
Again, Slack is something that, you know, employees at big companies use to talk to each other internally.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's the other part of the article that I highlighted.
Okay, hang on.
at the White House in April 2021.
And the language, I don't have the communication directly in front of me, but it almost says verbatim, they wanted to know why Alex Berenson hadn't been kicked off.
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's the other part of the article that I highlighted.
Okay, hang on.
Let me give you the words right here because he's working off memory.
They, this is the report of the discussion with the White House, they had one really tough question about why Alex Berenson hasn't been kicked off the platform, the Twitter employee wrote.
Yes, yes.
And I expect I'm going to have more to report in the near future.
And I expect that as soon as it's practical, I'm going to be suing the White House and Andy Slavitt.
So what was it?
Can you tell us what it was?
Did you call for insurrection, for violence against Biden?
What was your scene, Alex?
I was reporting about the vaccines and I was raising questions.
I was reporting mainly back then because that was April of 2021.
I was reporting on the VAERS data.
You know, theirs is the Federal Side Effects Database.
So I was saying, look, there's a report of a miscarriage here.
There's a report of myocarditis here.
Maybe people should be looking into this.
I mean, that was my crime.
All right, let me read to you the kinds of outrageous things that you wrote.
You know what you wrote, but we've got three million people listening right now.
For example, this is one of your sins.
You stated, the vaccine doesn't stop infection or transmission.
Don't think of it as a vaccine.
He told, Berenson told his Twitter followers.
Think of it as best Now, Alex, the CDC two days ago announced that there's no functional difference between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
So I would say I'm not a lawyer.
I'm not a judge.
insanity.
Now, Alex, the CDC two days ago announced that there's no functional difference between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
So I would say I'm not a lawyer.
I'm not a judge.
You are have you have a very strong case against the White House.
I know I do.
And And look, it gets complicated.
They're going to say, or I'm speculating, but they're likely to say, hey, we didn't force Twitter to let him off based on this particular Slack conversation.
We just asked.
To which I would say, when the cop pulls you over and says, sir, can you get out of your car for me, please?
You know, what nice liberal is going to tell you that's a question, right?
So basically what happened was Twitter banned me in August, four months after this.
And if you go, you know, I have I have other discovery that I have obtained in my lawsuit against Twitter, which I filed after they banned me, showing that in April of 2021, when the White House first started asking questions about me, at least at this meeting, Twitter said, hey, we don't think this guy's done anything wrong.
Well, at some point over the next four months, the pressure got to that.
It may have been when the White House publicly started turning up the heat and saying, we think social media, President Biden actually said, we think social media platforms are killing people.
You know, amazing that he could get a coherent sentence out.
But that's another story.
But but.
So he turned up the pressure on them in July.
In August, they banned me.
In December, I sued them.
And in April of 2022, just a few months ago, a judge, not a Trump appointee, a Clinton appointee, believe it or not, looked at my case and said, hey, this guy has demonstrated, to my satisfaction anyway, that he's got a plausible claim against Twitter.
I'm going to allow this lawsuit to move forward, which is something that No.
Alright, so we have to get you back for a longer discussion.
We've got a minute left, but I have to ask you, and congratulations, this is really quite unprecedented.
What is your message to just, you know, average Americans who don't have your profile, your journalistic credentials, who are also getting banned?
Is this the beginning for them, or is it only, you know, famous journalists who can take on the mighty Goliath?
So my lawyer, James Lawrence, is talking about trying to file a class action lawsuit on Twitter on the theory that they just have not been following their own terms of service.
And it is possible that attorneys general, state attorneys general, will file deceptive trade practices lawsuits on that same theory.
Twitter's told people, hey, come on, you can say what you want, and then they don't actually mean it.
So we will see.
I have to say one thing that's positive, Seth.
My Substack, which is Unreported Truths, is what it's called, and it's on Substack.
Substack is the only platform right now that I see, and you know, maybe Rumble too, that are really defending people's rights to speak no matter what they say.
Correct.
And so, I think we've got to stand with those platforms.
I have been.
You're a mind reader.
I've been in negotiation with Substack myself last week, so I might have an announcement to make.
Give us the name of your Substack again, Alex.
Sure.
It's called Unreported Truths.
Unreported truths.
Unreported truths.
We're posting this article about your story.
Keep fighting, my friend.
We might have to reach out to this chap, James Lawrence.
He sounds like a rather upstanding attorney.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Thank you, Alex.
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I took on Twitter and won.
Mm-hmm.
Can you send me that email from Philadelphia?
I didn't get that one.
About the election night.
I'm curious as to which one it'll be.
Shame you couldn't just do the Trump Hotel anymore, since, you know, for obvious reasons.
Well, we probably won't know who wins till Wednesday or Thursday, so... Oh, yeah, that's probably a good point, yeah.
Let's see if I can find it.
Oh, it's a text.
I'm sending it to you right now.
All right.
Alright.
45 seconds.
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Barrington says his attorney does media.
So let's get him on.
Okay.
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Alright, let's go to your calls.
Let's go to Laura, Staten Island, line 4.
Laura, welcome to America First.
Hello Sebastian, thanks so much for taking the call.
I actually have an idea for a t-shirt that's very simple, not deep, but it's Liz ain't no Lincoln.
Chaney is a sucker.
Hang on, hang on.
Liz ain't no Lincoln.
Chaney is a sucker.
Alright, I'll run that past my merch team.
Is that it, my friend?
No.
I think that I'm more similar to Abram Lincoln than is Liz Cheney.
Yes?
Because she thinks that you can compare yourself to Abram Lincoln if you lose a race in politics.
Before Abram Lincoln went into politics, he was just an ordinary person like I am.
And he didn't have so much money like do I, whereas Liz is pretty rich.
I think I'm more similar.
Yeah, he wasn't the scion of a dynasty.
His daddy wasn't vice president.
So yes, we all have far more in common than Abraham Lincoln than she does.
A great point.
Thank you, Laura.
Oh, is it Thursday?
I think it's Thursday.
That means Antoinette in California, line one.
Welcome, my friend.
Hi, Dr. G. Thank you so much.
And you know what?
You, as well as our President Trump, President Trump is the top gun and you are his wingman.
You guys are divine intervention and thank you for being here.
That's too kind.
I like that.
Keep the top gun maverick comparisons coming.
So give us your update for the events this weekend.
So, Dr. G., three things.
Number one, Thank you so much, everybody, for the prayers for Joette.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
She ended up the following Sunday there with us again on Tustin Avenue at the Planned Parenthood.
Number two, there are two bills in the Senate in California.
Parents, please call.
It's AB 866 and AB 107.
This is trying to get rid of parent In intervention, the AB 866 has to do with the jab.
Without parent consent, they want to pass that.
And AB 107, without parent consent, starting gender nonsense.
And as for our infamous AB 2223, everything's going to be voted on next Thursday, the 25th.
Let your voice be heard.
We've got to stop the insanity.
God bless you for being a voice for the voiceless.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
And next up, a true American legend, the great Ollie North.
120, right?
125. 12, right? 12,
right? right? 12, right?
Thank you.
When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
Some place in my life, the roads split off.
I had gone to the seminary.
I had gone to all white schools.
I was never gonna be a part of that world.
I was never gonna be white.
The problem is I can never go back completely to the world I came from.
We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
And then I asked God, if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
I want my candidacy to unify our country.
I was under constant attack.
You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
That's when all heck broke loose.
Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
We know exactly what's going on here.
This is the wrong black guy.
He has to be destroyed.
You really didn't matter.
What mattered was what they wanted.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my oath and did my best.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
I wouldn't be able to say, I lived up to my life.
What is Mike Pence doing in New Hampshire?
I mean, if Mike Pence doesn't have a summer house in New Hampshire, then he's delusional.
I mean, Mike Pence is a very nice guy, or seems like a nice guy, but he spent four years getting bossed around by Donald Trump like a concubine.
He was bossed around by his donors when he was governor of Indiana.
He's not in a position to lead anything.
I think he probably has useful years left in him, and I think he has probably something to add, perhaps.
Probably his grandchildren, too.
But the idea that he's going to run for president is, like, delusional.
And it's clearly only benefiting his consultants.
And he should fire anyone who's telling him to go to New Hampshire and run for president and give dumb speeches about the FBI.
He's getting a bit spicy, isn't he, old Tucker there?
Saying that Cheney should stick to bouncing his grandchildren on his knee.
That is the question.
What is he doing in New Hampshire?
You only go to New Hampshire if you're playing with the idea of running for president along with Liz Cheney.
Wouldn't that be funny?
Hey, Jeff.
How about that as an idea for a product?
How about that?
Shouldn't we have a product from our store that has them as the ticket, Pence and Cheney?
Yes, that's perfect too because Pence is pretty much just a more polished George Bush.
Oh we got it.
Let's talk to Randy.
Let's come up with something fun with Pence's face and Liz Cheney's.
But the last part of that clip.
Welcome back guys.
This is America First with me your host Sebastian Gorka.
The only people who are telling Mike Pence to run.
Oh, the grifters, the strategists, you know, the people like, what's his name?
I keep forgetting the Lincoln Project.
Oh, Steve Schmidt, the guy that crashed McCain's presidential campaign.
It's the Lincoln Project pedo-protectors who think they can just squeeze these narcissists for the millions they can raise and then shove into their back pockets.
Those are the only people.
By the way, he's right.
Look, you were nice to me in the White House, Mike.
But you're delusional.
After January the 6th your political career is dead.
It's a chocolate fire guard.
It has ceased to be.
It is six foot under pushing up the daisies.
Anyone telling you you should run is simply buying their second summer house in the Adirondacks.
Like You know, that FBI director, you know, the one who decided to go on vacation when the FBI was raiding the private residence of a man who had been president less than 24 months ago.
Not 24 years ago, 24 months ago.
And by the way, just to keep you up to date, yes, that is still breaking news.
The judge, you know, the guy who represented The Epstein pilots that were flying the underage girls to Lolita Island to be raped.
Yeah, that guy.
Yeah, Bruce Reinhardt.
The magistrate who signed off on the illegal raid.
That we still don't know why they did it.
He said, parts of the affidavit should be released.
Just parts of them.
Why?
What have you got to hide?
What has the DOJ got to hide?
What has the FBI got to hide?
You can't tell us why 30 FBI agents with guns stormed into Melania's closet, broke through, bust the lock on the archive door that they demanded two months prior should be put on the door to upgrade the security.
What have you got to hide, FBI?
And what have you got to hide, Reinhardt?
Okay, well, here's the latest spin.
What has it been in the last nine days?
Oh, it's the National Archives.
Gotta get those documents.
Then it was NUCLEAR SECRETS!
And then it was the ESPIONAGE ACT!
What's the latest spin from the lying legacy media?
This is Caitlin Collins, who I don't think she was hired by CNN for her scintillating wit and her intellectual acumen.
This is the latest One concern would be that it would potentially put these FBI agents at risk because it would show and reveal the identities of the agents who were there.
That was one concern that we saw officials had after you saw the search warrant that was put out, that was released.
It had the names of FBI agents on there.
So that's been a concern as well.
Jeff, why does Anderson Cooper, every time you get me a clip of him, he looks constipated, like there's a rod up his backside.
What is his problem?
Because they're clearing house at CNN.
He probably thinks he's next.
Oh, that's a good point.
Stelty's gone.
Maybe grandma next.
He does look like a grandma.
Those glasses, they really do not suit you.
Get a pair like these, you know, the rimless glasses.
The grandma glasses do not suit you.
The identities?
Hang on a second.
So, the footage, it's not that the footage isn't to be released, the stinking agents demanded the cameras be switched off.
We had President Trump's attorney on the show on, what was it, Monday?
And she said that they demand, there was a shouting match between the agents and the president's attorney.
They refused to leave the warrant there.
They demanded to see it.
And they demanded that the security cameras be switched off?
At a residence where the President lives and is secured by the Secret Service?
Why?
What have you got to hide?
Are you planting something?
As a senior FBI agent told me, is a high probability.
Are you leaving surveillance equipment behind?
Is that why you rolled in boxes and boxes and boxes of equipment?
And this last thing, Caitlin, you've got to hide the identities?
Since when?
This isn't a deep cover CIA asset working in Jalalabad, cupcake!
This is a federal law enforcement officer.
In this country, you don't get to hide your identity as a cop.
You know where that happens?
You know where cops wear balaclavas?
In dictatorships.
Where do cops raid houses without badges visible or their number visible?
In authoritarian banana republics, Caitlin Collins.
In America, there's a reason when you get pulled over.
You have to see the badge of the police officer.
You can demand the number of the police officer.
If it's a federal agent, and I've worked with many, you can say, show me your creds.
Show me your federal credentials right now.
Identify yourself.
But, but, not if it's the former president of the United States.
So you can rifle through his wife's lingerie drawer, but Americans aren't allowed to know who you are?
Why?
What have you got to hide?
I say to conservatives all the time, you're not a conservative if you don't put your name to your values.
If you love America and you're not If you're not prepared to say publicly, and not just on social media, but publicly, with your colleagues, with your friends, with your neighbors, oh yeah, I love America, Biden is senile, and double mastectomies on 14 year olds is child abuse and mutilation.
Yeah, that's what I believe.
If you're not prepared to say, I Sebastian Gorka, I Jane Doe don't believe that, guess what?
You don't stand for those values.
It's very important.
You are what you stand up for.
And if you're raiding a private home, if you are contravening the most sacred aspect of our system, which is the peaceful transition of power, Which is really what they're doing.
They're undermining the concept that if you quote-unquote lose an election, which we still don't know if he did, the person who lost it doesn't get persecuted by the new administration.
That's what happens in countries that are not free.
And they're doing it in America.
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We'll be back with the legend, Colonel Oliver North.
All right, so come in with the children and I'll probably use the... the presidential cut, okay?
after I've introduced Oli.
Can you play me 10 and 13?
Dean.
Amen.
Thank you.
The eligibility for getting gender-affirming surgeries at Boston Children's Hospital is basically the same as it would be for most other hospitals or surgeons in the United States.
And that's the case because we all follow the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, or WPATH, standards of care.
For top surgery, you are Requested, but not required, to have been on gender-affirming hormones for at least a year.
If you're a trans woman, it's really encouraged that you be on estrogen for at least a year because you want to maximize your natural breast growth.
Many surgical centers require you to be 18.
At Boston Children's Hospital for top surgeries, we'll see people as young as age 15 if they've been affirmed in their gender for a long period of time and don't really have any other life complications that make surgery inappropriate.
Tucking is definitely a topic that comes up for transgender and gender diverse folks, particularly people who have a feminine or female gender identity and were perhaps assigned male sex at birth.
The purpose of tucking is it helps them feel better, so more congruent and aligned with the body that they do have.
That can help reduce gender dysphoria, and gender dysphoria is that negative or that uncomfortable distressed feeling that possibly comes with having a gender identity that's different than your sex assigned at birth.
So when I think about talking I want to make sure that people are talking in safe ways.
And I think one of the best things that folks can do and families can do who are helping children or teenagers navigate this topic is talk to a gender-affirming medical provider that's involved in their child's care or that's involved in your care.
I would really recommend that people take breaks from talking.
Often people can talk for a long period of time and we want to make sure that you're listening to your body, that you're not in any pain, so pain might feel like an uncomfortable sensation.
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Somebody who understands the reality of war.
He not only served with honor in the U.S.
Marines, counterterrorism coordinator for Ronald Reagan in the White House, also 20 years at Fox News as their war correspondent, a legend in the Marine Corps, Colonel Oliver North.
Welcome back to America First.
I never thought I'd be old enough to be a legend, Seb.
I appreciate the intro.
By the way, that was perfect, that commercial you were just doing to help the people of Ukraine, because that's one of the reasons why Communist China has not yet tried to take Taiwan.
Yes.
The resistance that's been put up is so important, because Taiwan is desperate to make sure that they remain independent.
Right.
This has made Beijing pause for thought because they thought the Russian invasion would be over in a couple of weeks.
And we are seven months later.
We have to talk about China.
We have to talk about your new book, The Giant Awakes.
However, it is sadly so many Marines died just a year ago in Kabul.
I'd like us to commemorate and get your response to that.
Listen to what President Trump said on my show exactly a year ago as we were leaving Afghanistan behind.
When I took in, when I took over, ISIS was all over the Middle East.
We knocked out 100% of the ISIS caliphate.
I noticed now they call it ISIS-K.
So you'll explain that.
But we knocked out 100 percent of the ISIS caliphate.
We took out al-Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS.
And you know what else and who else we took out?
We took out plenty.
And we were in total control in terms of Kabul and in terms of Afghanistan.
They weren't even close to us.
We were going to get people because I believe in getting at 21 years is enough.
And we were like a police force over there, and they've got to take care of themselves.
And as you know better than anybody, I predicted as soon as we leave, they would stop fighting.
And they were fighting for a lot of money.
They were among the highest-paid soldiers in the world, paid for by the American taxpayer.
So that's exactly what happened.
What we were going to do is get our citizens out, take out other people who deserve to be taken out.
Then we're going to knock the hell out of the bases.
But before we did that, we were going to take out all of our military equipment.
I said, down to the nails and the screws and the bolts.
Everything out.
Nice and easily.
And then we take out the soldiers and probably blow up the bases, because why should we give them to somebody else to use?
So that was it.
And Bagram, we were going to keep because Bagram is near China, near Iran, and also in Afghanistan.
So it covered a lot of territory.
So I would have kept that.
And it's a great area for exactly what it represents.
So, you know, they spent billions and billions of dollars building it.
That's the big Air Force base.
So I think the biggest in the world, actually.
So we would have kept that.
Instead, we fled like there was no reason for it.
The soldiers come out last and the army, the military comes out last after the people and after all of the $83 billion worth of the most highly sophisticated military equipment.
Anywhere in the world, it is a disgrace what's taken place here and an embarrassment to our country.
This is the greatest embarrassment in the history of our country.
Colonel North, we ran from Afghanistan.
Eleven marines, one corpsman and a sergeant of the army were murdered as we left.
Biden has called this a proud moment and last week, Ned Price called this something we can be proud of.
Your response?
Well, first of all, we're in far worse shape today than we were when we went to Afghanistan 20 years ago.
I was there with Jim Mattis.
I went in on my birthday, October 7th, 2001.
We landed at what was then called Red Beach.
And we were moving through Pakistan to an air base the British had built in World War I, excuse me, World War II, and flew into a base we called Rhino, southwest of Kandahar.
So first conventional force to go into the war.
It was well prepared, well trained, and remarkably effective.
And at the end of the day, the Taliban had been driven out.
And unfortunately, the new regime here in Washington, As agreed with the Taliban that they'll permit no terrorism to be launched from there.
Well, of course, just a matter of days ago, we killed the successor to Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, in Kabul, and for them to say they had no idea he was there is truly unbelievable.
So, where we are today is a U.S.
military that is far less equipped, far less prepared to go to war than we were back in 2001.
And it was a war, whether they call it that or not.
It's kind of like, if you don't call it the truth, then it was a war.
It was Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.
But the fact is, it was a war against terrorism.
And we succeeded in it.
President Trump is absolutely right to say what he did.
The problem was, the right thing to do was to end the war.
We're doing the right thing the wrong way, which is what the—I almost said the Obama administration.
This is like the third Obama administration.
But what Biden has done He's corrupted our military.
He's vacated the leadership.
And we now have a military that's less well prepared to deal with things like terrorism than it's ever been before, notwithstanding the success of killing Zawahiri, who was the successor to bin Laden.
The idea of our military being emasculated, literally being driven out of the out of the the most horrible circumstances a year ago.
And looking at what we now have, with the lowest re-enlistment rates in 40 years, we are incapable of fielding some of the weapon systems that were under design and that President Obama canceled things like the project to give us hypervelocity weapons.
President Trump tried to restore it and, of course, didn't have the time to get it done.
Today, we are outgunned.
Taiwan is under greater risk.
The Ukrainians are fighting like the Dickens with weapons that are good enough to maybe stalemate the war but not win it.
And that's all because of the vacillating, extraordinarily poor leadership in Washington D.C.
at every level, in every department, in every agency.
Everybody's all upset about the FBI.
I've got some really good friends in the FBI.
We'll talk about the FBI, we'll talk about your character Jake Cruz of the FBI in your new novel.
With Bob Hammer, it is Giant Awakes.
I think the word vacillates is a very polite way of describing, but you said it right, the Biden regime.
We're talking to the legend that is Colonel Oliver North, former counterterrorism coordinator in the Reagan White House.
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Still hot during the break on our video feed.
I'm going to read.
Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out why the volume is so low coming in here.
When did the book launch?
When did which?
The book.
When did the book launch?
Today.
Today.
Wow.
I'm honored.
You got it, buddy.
You do well with my books.
Thank you.
Good.
How many of the Jake Cruises have you written?
This is the second Jake Cruz novel I've done.
And Jake Cruz is a real guy.
That's obviously not his real name.
But I don't know if you can see this from where you are, right?
Let me hold this.
I can.
Yeah, yeah.
So what this is, is a coffee mug that replaced the last one from the guys who warned my family They were coming to pick them up because the terrorists who threatened us, yeah, it was the Abu Nidal Islamic Jihad organization in Libya.
Okay.
They were on the way to the house.
Okay.
The bureau got there first, got everybody out.
And we had lived with federal agents for the next, till I've retired from the Marine Corps.
And so they gave me this mug.
Good morning.
I see the assassins have failed again.
When we go back on air, I'm going to ask you to hold that up again.
That's too good.
That's from an FBI agent.
I love it.
A real one.
A good one.
I love it.
The real Jake Cruz.
The good guys.
The good guys.
Oh, yeah.
And it's a shame to see it.
It's leadership.
No, it always is.
It always is.
It always is.
And President Trump proved that.
The fact is the leadership has failed the country.
In every aspect.
It's just frightening.
But there is an answer.
It's we the people.
Absolutely.
I get that plug in too.
Good, good.
I forgot that you, I'm reading your little bio here, that also you were the 66th president of the NRA.
How was that?
Was that heavy duty?
Was that a lot of travel?
Unfortunately, I discovered that there was an awful lot of graft and corruption right there, because 34 years of the same leadership, a board that consists of 76 sycophants, it's like a cult.
It's so sad.
It's so sad.
I said, let's just do an outside independent audit, okay?
Not some internal fix with absolutely unthinkable.
And so they fired me.
I still put down I was the 66th president of the NRA just because I wanted everybody to know I was there because I believe in the Second Amendment.
And I believe in telling the truth.
And that's why I'm not in jail.
That's why the NRA's in trouble still.
Because they don't tell the truth.
Yes.
God bless.
All right.
Standby.
by 60 seconds.
Peace out.
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Colonel North, your new book, I'm honored, launches today.
You've got to get it.
It's The Giant Awakes.
It's about this FBI tough guy, one of the good FBI agents, Jake Cruz.
It's a classic, classic thriller.
But I have to ask you, given what we've witnessed in the last 10 days in America, and I love I've worked closely with the FBI for years.
Some of the best guys there are former Marines, lots of Marines in the Bureau.
But how do you react to the events at Mar-a-Lago?
Are you as horrified as I am?
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, it's unprecedented.
I know that this afternoon they released some redacted portions of the so-called affidavit that led to the raid.
I very quickly read through it just before we sat down.
I don't see anything in it that justified what took place.
What I believe is about to happen, Seb, is that probably right after the beginning of the final phase of the campaign for 2022, you're going to have a press conference held by the attorney general and probably the director of the FBI that announces that in the documents that they seized, they found evidence of a crime.
And the crime was—remember, this was a fishing expedition.
This wasn't going after a specific document.
This is kind of like the old days with the special prosecutor.
I know.
Give us the man.
This is this is right out of the communist doctrine.
Give us the man.
We'll find a crime.
Right.
OK.
That's what they're trying to do.
And they're going to announce that there was a conspiracy to cause an uprising to take back the presidency of the United States.
They're trying to ruin Donald Trump.
I doubt Donald Trump could ever be convicted of such a thing.
But it's a crazy world.
And in Washington, D.C., a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich for being roast beef.
So what we've got right now is a fantasy land of what's truly illicit leadership in Washington, D.C., from the top down.
The country is being run by a troika.
The Speaker of the House, the Senate Majority Leader, and the President of the United States.
They are running the country into the ground.
They're putting our military at risk.
Can we fix the FBI?
Can we un-wokify the military?
- No. - Colonel, can we fix the FBI?
Can we unwoke-ify the military?
And how long will it take? - Look, I don't want to see the FBI dissolved.
I don't want to see them do to the FBI what we did with trying to protect the country from terrorism—create five new agencies, hire millions more people, even 87,000 IRS agents.
The whole idea of doing that is wrong.
What we really need, Seb, is leadership—ethical, moral leadership.
That's what we need.
If we fail to do that in the House and the Senate, we're missing a boat.
We've got, what, 87 days, 88 days left before the election?
We, the people of the United States, can fix this problem.
When I raised my right hand to become a Marine on the 29th of December 1961, I knew that I was taking an oath not to a god, not to a president, not to a party, not to a pantheon, But to the Constitution of the United States to protect it from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
We now have enemies of our Constitution that are governing this country.
And the way we fight back isn't with like the 13 or 14 cities that were nearly burned to the ground in 2020.
We fight back at the polling places.
75 million people voted for Donald Trump the second time.
You and I did.
I'm not as sure.
And after Mar-a-Lago, I think it's closer to 100 million.
We're out of time, sir, but I want those of the viewers out there who are tuned in on Rumble, not just the listeners, I want the viewers to see the mug you showed me in the break that was given to you by an FBI agent after some bad guys came after your family and tried to kill you because you're a patriot.
And the mug says, Good morning.
I see the assassins have failed.
He is an unstoppable force of nature, much like the character Jake Cruz.
The book is out right now.
Oliver North and Bob Hammer, The Giant Awakes.
God bless you, sir.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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They're out of control.
They're totally out of control.
This is a medical professional at Boston Children's Hospital talking about how they transition young girls as young as 15.
Cut 10.
Play cut.
The eligibility for getting gender-affirming surgeries at Boston Children's Hospital is basically the same as it would be for most other hospitals or surgeons in the United States.
And that's the case because we all follow the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, or WPATH, standards of care.
For top surgery, you are Requested, but not required, to have been on gender-affirming hormones for at least a year.
If you're a trans woman, it's really encouraged that you be on estrogen for at least a year because you want to maximize your natural breast growth.
Many surgical centers require you to be 18.
At Boston Children's Hospital for top surgeries, we'll see people as young as age 15 if they've been affirmed in their gender for a long period of time and don't really have any other life complications that make surgery inappropriate.
Do you know what top surgery is?
Yeah, it's breast removal for 15-year-old girls.
How do we navigate this insanity?
We find medical professionals who are serious about the Hippocratic Oath.
He's been a good friend of the show.
He's a mutual friend of my rabbi.
Yes, I know I'm Catholic, but he is my rabbi, Dennis Prager.
Dr. Jeff Barkey, welcome back to America First.
Seb, great to be with you.
Thanks for having me.
Now, somebody just sent me your bio.
Not like I need your bio, but I don't know if this is an up-to-date bio.
And it says here, not only are you a board-certified primary care physician, and not only are you the author of COVID-19, a Physician's Take on the Exaggerated Fear of the Coronavirus, it says here that you were recently commissioned as an officer in the U.S.
Army Reserve Medical Corps.
Congratulations!
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Unfortunately, that may be short-lived because I am choosing To remain unvaccinated, and the military isn't too happy about that.
Wow.
Alright, so we can talk about that insane clip from Boston Children's Hospital, but first, the big shock is, so I guess the science deniers were right, CDC's announcement this week is there's no difference between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
I thought, does that make the CDC the conspiracy theorist, Dr. Barki?
Well, I'll tell you, Seb, you know, we've known this all along, and it's political theater more than anything.
The one tenet that they've changed that I think is of most importance is that asymptomatic spread is no longer a thing.
And that was really the tenet upon which all these draconian and harmful mandates came to be.
Can you explain that?
Because, you know, it's slightly technical.
Asymptomatic spread was the idea that you look healthy, but you're making other people sick, correct?
That's right.
So we used to routinely test people regardless of their state of health.
So if you felt good, you still needed to be tested before you went into a movie theater or before you traveled, etc.
It's never the case that somebody without symptoms would spread a respiratory viral illness.
So remember, we closed all the schools because we were worried or the bureaucrats were worried The kids would spread it to each other, spread it to the teachers, they would then go home and kill grandma and grandpa.
The CDC's new guidelines says it's no longer recommended to screen those without symptoms.
We've been saying that all along.
Without that, none of these other measures would have been needed.
We wouldn't have had to wear masks.
We wore masks because we were told that you might have symptoms, you might have the disease, even though you have no symptoms, and you can spread it.
We were quarantining people after they were exposed even though they had no symptoms.
It's all political theater.
It's nonsense.
The CDC can no longer be trusted.
They are following the political science, not the real science.
Jeff, this is incredible.
This is live radio.
I wanted to ask you about this data dump about the 40% of pregnant women who participated in the Pfizer mRNA COVID vaccination who suffered miscarriages.
Yes, you heard right, 40%.
I was typing COVID miscarriage into the Twitter search bar.
Nothing came up.
No searches.
So there was no likely results.
When I pressed enter, do you know what the first thing that came up is, Doctor?
Know the facts.
Go to the CDC with a link.
I mean, this is Orwellian, is it not?
It is Orwellian.
None of this information is allowed to be spread on social media.
It is completely banned.
I'm sorry to say, first of all, this isn't even a vaccine.
It's a biologic therapeutic.
It's a genetic biologic therapeutic.
It is not a vaccine in any sense of the word that we're used to describing vaccines.
And in my opinion, it simply isn't safe enough to be mandating this product for anybody.
And now, Seb, they're coming after our kids, as young as six months old.
The CDC's own data shows that healthy kids have a zero percent risk of dying of COVID-19.
It makes no sense to me whatsoever to be vaccinating a child against an illness they're not at risk using an experimental product that has no long-term safety studies.
This is child abuse and we should not be doing it.
And this is when Fauci at the same time at an open event says, I, I symbolize integrity in truth.
Can we can science recover?
Jeff, can science recover?
I don't know.
You know, the CDC and the FDA have to be reviewed when we take over Congress.
I hope they hold some hearings.
You know, science can recover.
And what Fauci symbolizes is the failure of these of these health care institutions.
I mean, look at Fauci.
Vaccine, double-boosted, infected.
President Biden, vaccine, double-boosted, infected.
First Lady, CEO of Pfizer.
Some of the sickest patients I have with COVID-19 are those that have been fully vaccinated and boosted.
This vaccine is failing miserably and in fact is the cause of this pandemic and all these varieties of viruses that are coming.
Coming out.
We have to get you back for a longer one-on-one discussion.
Will you do that for us, Dr. Barkey?
Anytime, Seb.
It'd be my pleasure.
All right.
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He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
We all learn.
I love hearing from you guys, not just the callers.
Somebody just DM'd me.
I'll just say, uh...
Brad, nothing else, who said, there, you just played the clip from Boston Children's.
There it is, plain as day.
They say they operate on kids under 18.
On Dennis' show, a caller had the nerve to call and accuse him of spreading misinformation because they said Boston Children's doesn't do that.
The problem is that the leftist progressives have a completely different understanding of the world than we do.
No, Brad, they lie!
It's not a different understanding.
You're falling into their trap of different truths.
There's the truth, and we know it, and they are their lies.
It is that simple.
But thank you.
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Okay, let's go to Brent, another great, great patriot who has been waiting very patiently in California. - Yeah.
Great shooting, rhino-slaughtering gorka!
I've never gone on safari.
I've been to Africa, but I've never gone on safari.
But I think the rhinos are getting close to extinct here in America, Brent.
In Great Park because of you.
Oh no, one team, one team.
Alright, what would you like to share today?
Well, loser lunatic, wannabe Lincoln Lizzie.
...fatally exposed herself as being just one more wickedly woke, anti-American, insurrectionary sleeper.
For years, she swam silently beneath the surface in a cesspool swamp, waiting for her deep state daddy to demonically deploy her.
All honest Americans know, President Trump is not the true target Lucifer Liz claims to be shooting at.
Along with all her other nouveau-gendered CCP prostitutes and assassins, she is shooting at me, and you, your audience, and our nation under God.
And Laura Ingraham needs to report that, unless she too is a sleeper.
Dude, that is one of your best.
I know you always bring your A game, but that is one of your best.
The deep-stained daddy that is Dick Cheney.
I just don't... That image is going to be seared in my mind now, Brent, of wickedly woke Liz Cheney exposing herself.
Alright.
I don't know if you're on Twitter but you've got to put that up there somewhere because that is so, so, so, so good.
Stay on the line.
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you We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.
Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
Can we meet?
I've been working with Greg Phillips.
He has a deep background in election intelligence.
True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
Bad background, bad reputation.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
This is organized crime.
- I saw that walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputation.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
- And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
- This is organized crime.
- Do you have video evidence?
- Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
- What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
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Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
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Really?
All cops are bastards?
No, I think you people are, because the way you're acting, and the way you're treating our children, and our police officers, and making them believe that it's okay to abuse them?
I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit here and let you do that!
No, I don't think so.
This won't be the last of me.
I want everyone to know what's going on because you're hiding it.
You're hiding it.
You know, who does that?
Communists do that.
Yes, just like they're hiding the affidavit for the search warrant of a former president's home.
That's what communists do.
Harsh words.
For harsh times, but that is what is required.
That is Tatiana Ibrahim, one of the mama bears who is taking back America, one school district at a time.
God bless her and all the others who are fighting for our children and our Republic.
We have got one of the generals of that parents' revolt in studio.
Yes, she came to the swamp!
She has to escape as soon as possible, but for the meantime, we have lured her into a den of liberty.
She is the co-founder of the amazing organization Moms for Liberty, and probably has the coolest name in America right now.
I mean, Trump's pretty cool, but Justice?
Yeah.
Tiffany Justice, welcome in studio.
Thank you for having me.
It looks great.
Congratulations on the new studio.
It looks lovely.
Thank you.
Yes.
Thank you, Salem, on your TV studio.
By the way, guys, I know you're listening across the country wherever you are.
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But we also live stream on all those apps like Roku and all that stuff you have on your television.
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So you can see my lovely studio and the trinkets with which it is lined.
Tiffany, you're in the swamp to keep fighting the good fight.
For those who haven't heard you on this show before, you are the co-founder of an amazing organization, Moms4Liberty, which was only founded a couple of years ago.
What is Moms4Liberty?
Let's start there.
Yeah, so 18 months ago, Tina Deskovich and I co-founded a group called Moms4Liberty out of Florida.
We both served as school board members.
And so now you find us here and across America, moms and dads standing up.
We have 215 chapters in 40 states.
So dads are allowed?
It's not just Moms4Liberty?
There's no sexual discrimination?
No, and we know that strong men support strong women.
What's the goal?
That's the mission?
The mission is to be the watchdogs of the districts, to never again allow public education to indoctrinate our children and to make them hate America.
We know that there are shared values amongst the people in America, and it doesn't matter what political party they belong to.
And we really believe that we're bringing people together who want to have a brighter future for their kids.
Right.
I usually don't do this because usually I invite people I like to talk about topics that are important, but sometimes I have a little, you know, a little angel whispering in my ear.
This time it's my wife, Katie, who you saw yesterday, sent me a long, long text of things I need to ask Tiffany in front of our millions of listeners.
So I, look, you know, strong men, strong women.
Behind every great man is a greater woman.
So let's ask the first question.
For those, so now it's a year and a half.
How many chapters?
How many people are in this organization now?
215 chapters in 40 states with over 100,000 active members.
That's America.
That is the American way.
Problem, take action, solve the problem.
Okay, so let's start with the first one.
What is the tipping point?
In your experience, for most parents, when they get involved in education issues, because look, I'm guilty as well.
My wife and I did a lot of research when we moved to America.
We finally chose a school that's associated with our church.
And once you pick the school, most of us kind of hands off.
If the kid comes home and says, Dad, I don't understand your long division, will you help me out?
You help him out.
But we don't monitor, we kind of trust that our decision Was a good decision.
And we kind of only get engaged.
I did get engaged in my daughter's school when a teacher gave a... It was in the cathedral associated with the school.
It wasn't a mass, it wasn't a service.
One of the lesbian teachers to these young girls, prepubescent girls, girls in their teens, gave a 50-minute speech that I listened to on their website about how it's good to explore your sexuality.
Wow.
Okay?
In a cathedral.
So I got engaged.
As you can imagine, I got engaged.
I went in, demanded to see the principal of the school.
But for too many parents, we kind of just pick a school and then allow them to be taught.
What has been, in your experience, that triggering moment where parents say, is there a pattern?
I think there is.
I think there is a pattern of parents kind of being presented with information, their children being presented with information and learning about it and saying, hmm, I don't know about that.
What was the context here, right?
What was the purpose of this lesson?
And I think the tipping point became when the parents went to the school districts and they said, we're concerned about this.
And what the districts basically said, or Terry McAuliffe for that matter, parents just shouldn't really be that involved in their kids' education.
That's the tipping point.
It's up to us.
That was the tipping point for And would you have Moms for Liberty, would you be sitting in my studio now if it weren't for the Wuhan lab and COVID?
Is that part of the wake up?
I think it's part of the overall wake up and the momentum that was created.
I served as a school board member.
There were real concerns about where parents fit into their children's education.
And we saw public education moving farther and farther away from parents having input.
I think what COVID did was just completely pull back the curtain.
And you had a lot of parents who, for the most part, wanted to trust their community schools.
These are schools where they know the people that work there.
Oftentimes they've gone to some of these schools.
And so the general nature is, as you said, trusting, right?
Who thinks that you're going to send your child to school and they're going to actively work to turn your child against you and all of your traditions and values in your home?
COVID really let parents see a window into what their kids were learning.
Because they were at home, they could see the video lectures.
Yeah, and then what they weren't learning, right?
There were a lot of parents who were looking and saying, well, why does my child have trouble writing?
Well, they're on the computer all day long.
They're not holding a pencil.
They're not writing.
That was a wake-up call for parents who had been pushed farther and farther out.
And oftentimes, Sebastian, because there wasn't homework being sent home.
There wasn't that communication.
And so really now parents are saying, we want to partner with our children's schools.
We have a funny meme that went up on the website that said, when we told you we wanted you to teach division, we meant math.
Oh, that's good.
I haven't seen that.
And I'm on social media a lot.
I like that.
They are teaching division.
OK, let's stay on that for a second.
Who are the major culprits?
I'm sure this is multivalent, so there's lots of different senses of gravity.
But when you look at, we're going to teach CRT.
We're going to teach that if you're white, you're an oppressor.
If you're black, you're a victim.
We're going to say America is the problem.
We're going to give lectures in the church to 10-year-old girls about how they should explore their sexuality and that cisgender, normal sexual identity is bad.
Who are the key propagators?
Is it really the members of the school boards or is it the teachers or is it the unions?
How Have you identified what is the transmission belt for this indoctrination, Tiffany?
I'm going to place this squarely on the union's shoulders at this point right now.
I think there are a lot of different mechanisms as far as teacher training and accreditation where we could lay some blame.
But as far as what we're seeing really actively being pushed into the schools, we see the teachers unions and that leadership really being on the most of the fringe of the left, I think.
And you're taking all of that, that progressive woke ideology, and really forcing it down through public education.
Because they know if they can indoctrinate the children, they can separate them from the parents, then they will own them, basically.
And so I think American parents saw during COVID, the teachers unions had so much control, right?
They kept schools closed and they wanted to mask our children.
And then when you look at the representative assembly for the NEA or the AFT's, you know, different agenda that they have, you really look and you say, how far away is this from what parents want out of schools?
The primary duty of the school is to educate.
But I think it's become very clear that the primary goal of the teachers union is not in fact to educate or give our children practicable skills.
It is to indoctrinate them and to make them foot soldiers of the progressive far left.
Yeah, part of their move.
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I want to recognize the fact that it's not all teachers.
I think we need to get her back on the show.
There's an amazing young lady, Lillian Venezian, in the Commonwealth of Virginia, who stood up at a school board meeting as a teacher to say this.
I'm a Fairfax County public school teacher and I'm going to give a message of encouragement to parents and teachers and students who are too afraid to come and speak forward.
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Don't be afraid to speak out for your kids because they are voiceless and they rely on you.
You should be afraid of them rooting for socialism by the time they get to middle school.
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So don't give up, because it is up to us.
Students, you are on the front lines of these indoctrination camps.
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What an amazing young lady.
Mr. G, let's get her back in studio.
Tiffany, I mean, her point, it shouldn't need saying.
That the teachers and the school boards don't work for themselves, or the Democrat Party, or the Biden administration, they work for us.
What is the power relationship right now, after a year and a half of what you and Tina have been doing, after people like Lilit, like Tatiana Ibrahim, standing up?
Is it shifting?
Because what I see at the school boards, I went to one of the recent ones in Virginia, where they said if a child, even in kindergarten, uses the wrong pronoun for another student, they can be actually suspended.
So if Freddy comes in and says, today I'm, you know, Julie, if his buddy Tom calls him Freddy, that kid can get suspended.
It seems to me as if these school boards, to put it mildly, don't give a damn what the parents want.
I think it depends where you are right now in America.
And I think it depends about the leadership in your state.
You know, I think what you see in Florida is you have a very strong governor who has set a very clear course for what the future of education is going to look like in Florida.
I think you have a governor in Virginia who everyone was very excited about.
But I'd be lying if I told you that I'm not concerned about some of the laws and things that are being required, that are requiring critical race theory, given a different name.
I don't think teachers are feeling represented by the union.
I certainly saw that as a school board member.
You know, I guess my question would be, where is Governor Youngkin on these issues?
And I'm hearing and seeing a lot of unrest amongst Virginia parents who are looking for leadership from this leadership team to be able to help in that area.
I don't think teachers are feeling represented by the union.
I certainly saw that as a school board member.
We would go through bargaining, and I would often go back into the classrooms, my kids' teachers, and I would ask sometimes, are you aware of what the bargaining -- what the teachers union is bargaining for at the table?
Oftentimes, teachers had no idea.
They're busy.
They have lives of their own.
They have their own children.
They're focused on teaching.
But they're giving money every month.
They're giving money every month.
Yep.
Giving money every month.
And so we really are trying to help teachers to leave the union.
Rebecca Friedrichs, I know you have on for Kids in Country, has an adopt-a-teacher program.
So Moms for Liberty is going to be working with for Kids in Country to try to help teachers to leave the union because you're right.
They're giving money every month to an organization that is actively working against what many teachers actually want to have happen in their classroom.
What is the role going to be, what is the status of masks going to be this fall?
How important an issue is that going to be?
What are you worried about?
I'm worried about places like Philadelphia that have decided that they're going to just exercise whatever control they can find.
They're requiring masks for the first 10 days and then they're going to force them on the kids after every extended break.
And I think when we look at the way that masks have been utilized in the last places where they lingered.
Schools, where children are easily controlled.
Airports, where adults are easily controlled.
It's just this control mechanism.
That's what masks have become.
So we're fighting actively again against masks.
One of the things that I saw that was very concerning, and should be concerning to every American right now, is the fact the CDC came out and really said there's not a lot of difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated.
They should be treated the same.
Correct.
But in New York City schools, if you're an unvaccinated parent, you will no longer have access to your child's classroom.
You will not be able to go into the schools.
That's a problem and it has to change.
Let's give an example of just how insane the other side has become and what you are fighting.
This is a video I played already this week from Boston Children's Hospital.
I think this is the issue that will get most parents activated.
Play cut.
A child will often know that they are transgender from the moment that they have any ability to express themselves, and parents will often tell us this.
We have parents who tell us that their kids, they knew from the minute they were born practically, and actions like refusing to get a haircut, or standing to urinate, trying to stand to urinate, refusing to stand to urinate, trying on sibling's clothing, playing with the quote opposite gender toys, things like that.
So, I've raised two children with my wife.
Our newborns ate, pooped, and slept.
They weren't giving me lectures on their transgender identity.
Can we deal with these people?
I mean, these sound like either ins... This is a doctor.
That's an MD at a prestigious hospital saying, from birth, children are expressing transgender identities.
Either these people are insane, Or they're utterly brainwashed.
You can't negotiate with these kinds of people when it trickles down to school policies, can you?
This is criminal.
These are crimes against children that are being perpetrated.
This is abuse.
The idea that a child doesn't want to get a haircut, so maybe they were born in the wrong body.
This idea, the opposite sex toys.
Who's making that decision?
Right?
There's no right way to be a boy or a girl and the idea that somehow adults are saying to a child, well, if you're not comfortable going through puberty, maybe you were born in the wrong body.
And I'm going to sell you this snake oil solution of we're going to never be able to actually change your biological sex, but mutilate you.
Yeah.
And sterilize you in the hopes of you finding happiness through that process.
I really believe and I watch this, Sebastian.
These are crimes against children.
We will look back on this time like we look at lobotomies now, thinking what ridiculousness this has been.
And I'm so incredibly proud of people like Chris Elston and other people that are coming out and fighting against this madness.
It must stop.
My goal will be for these people to Really face accountability for the crimes that they've perpetrated.
It is child abuse and God bless a billboard, Chris.
That's who he is.
She's mentioning the man who goes out and actually says in public with a billboard that this is child abuse.
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You said something stunning to me Tiffany before we went live and it's something I've said in terms of general politics in America, but not with reference to the fight you're fighting every day.
I say the left is the left.
The left are going to do what they do.
They are not secret about their disdain for America.
The bigger problem we have is the fake conservatives, the establishment GOP.
You said something about the GOP as being the biggest obstacle locally for parents.
Could you explain that in front of three million people?
Absolutely.
So we have moms and dads that are rising up as leaders in their community.
They're seeing real problems with the education system, and they're wanting to get involved.
And Allie Best Ducky spoke at our summit, and she said, politics matter because policies matter because people matter.
And it's so true, right?
So people getting concerned, they want to affect policy, and they said, well, I'm going to get involved in politics to be able to affect that.
And so they're looking for places to go in their communities to learn about the political process and to get involved.
A lot of times they go to their local Republican executive committee.
And what we have found is that Republican executive committees, the establishment GOP in this country, have fought against us time and time again.
This idea that we're some, you know, GOP establishment group.
Well, somebody should let us know that because somebody should maybe let them know that.
Because instead of moms being seen as possible leaders to help us with a fresh perspective, we're being looked at as a threat.
But do you have any idea as to what?
What it is about you that poses a threat to people who say they love America and who say they're conservatives?
What is the problem with Tiffany Justice or Moms for Liberty?
Well, I felt it in my own community when I ran for office.
I found that there was all of these deals that had been made.
All of these people that had decided... With the other side?
With each other, honestly.
Within the RAC.
Well, I'm gonna run for office, and then I'm gonna term out, and then when I'm done running, then you'll run, and then so-and-so's husband will run, and blah, blah, blah.
So it's just a club?
It's a club.
It was a greased down club and you can't come in and say I want to compete.
How dare you?
And see if I get more votes.
Yeah, how dare you have a competing opinion or come in and upset the apple cart.
And so what we have sometimes are groups that will not give moms time or the group Moms for Liberty time to come in and speak.
They think that we're competition for money, for positions perhaps.
And what we're trying to say is, listen, we're bringing a whole new group of people into politics, and they're coming to you to see where do we fit.
And so if the constant action by the GOP establishment in these communities is you don't fit here, Well they're going to find somewhere else to be.
And so I just think you're seeing a real shift in American politics now with parents being a brand new political class and looking for acceptance and somewhere to be able to be supported.
And communities have some real questions to ask about how they move forward.
But given that, and I don't think this is something you can change, given that our political structure Over two centuries, it's kind of established itself as a two-party system.
You can have a Ross Perot come up with billions of dollars, but what does Ross Perot do?
He takes conservative votes away from George Bush, and then we get Bill Clinton.
So where can you fit in?
Have you given up on the establishment GOP, or have you got tactics to try and have the voice of the majority represented inside the established party?
What's your plan?
Well, I think that the energy that moms and dads and younger people right now are bringing into some of these clubs is exciting.
And there are people within the clubs that are willing and accepting.
They may not always be in leadership, right?
Change is hard.
We know that.
But we're finding slowly, if we keep showing up and we keep really sounding the alarm about what's happening and what the future of America looks like, if we continue to ignore these issues, we're finding that new people are coming up and supporting us.
So in my own community, for example, the Republican Executive Committee had a whole change of leadership.
And now there's space for everyone to have their voice heard.
And it's been very interesting to watch.
And at the grassroots, when these people come up to you, how many of them are apolitical?
Because I keep saying GOP and Republican and Conservative, but I would imagine there's thousands and thousands of people who never saw themselves as political or thought of themselves as Independent or Democrats.
Are you seeing that?
I would say that probably about half of our membership would fall into that area, really.
I mean, there's an article out in the USA Today, and it talks about, some of our moms were interviewed, and one of the moms said she'd only voted twice in her life.
And so as a country, you have to look at a 40-year-old woman who has children.
Why was she not voting?
Why did she feel so disenchanted with the political process in America?
Why did she not feel that her voice was important?
Now she realizes it is.
And we don't want to lose those people.
So we're going to find a place for Moms for Liberty and for this new movement in America.
And I think it's really up to those that have been involved in politics to create the space for new people to join us.
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That's S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A SebGorka.com Tiffany, we have to talk about just how insane the other side has become and there is a certain assemblyman in California who has suggested what about transgenderism and the abuse of children?
Yeah, there's a man named Scott Wiener.
He has officially lost his mind as far as I'm concerned.
He decided that he wanted to present a bill, SB 107, that would make California a sanctuary state for children who want to have gender affirmation surgery, as they call it, which means to lean in and encourage a child to believe that they were born in the wrong body and then to take Steps, medical steps to try to change their biological sex which you and I know is impossible.
Can we just be explicit here and I'm sorry if you've got kids in the car just dial it down maybe.
So what we're talking about is children who have their gender dysphoria which is a medical condition.
Affirmed we don't do that.
We don't affirm medical conditions.
We don't say you've got cancer.
That's great or you're a schizophrenic That's really cool.
We in the history of medicine.
We never affirm Somebody's ailment in this case.
They have decided we affirm it as a medical professional they provide hormones of the opposite sex to that child and eventually It leads to surgery.
Surgery?
To do what?
To remove a young woman's breasts and to castrate a boy.
Which, as you said, does nothing to change their sex.
If you're an XY genetic makeup chromosomally, you're still a boy.
If you're XX, you will be a female until you die.
But they sterilize these children and they mutilate these children.
And somebody in California Yeah, if a child runs away to California, then they can become a ward of the state.
And then apparently California taxpayers will pay for that child to go through gender transition surgery.
There is no data to support the idea that a child would be better off leaving their home and going through gender transition surgery than staying at home and not.
As a mom of four kids, if my daughter was dealing with weight issues, with body image issues, was starving herself, was identified as being anorexic, would I encourage that behavior?
Would I take her for liposuction to continue down that path?
No.
And this is no different than any of that.
And yet the medical community has chosen to take a completely different path.
And I promise you, we will not stop.
Mothers and fathers across this country will not stop until this madness ends.
Let me just echo on that.
We had an amazing, brave woman, Dr. Miriam Grossman, on the show, who was interviewed by Matt Walsh in his movie, What Is A Woman?
And I just raised this as a PhD of political science, not a medical professional.
I said, Dr. Grossman, when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, the big issue for young girls was anorexia and bulimia.
And it would often happen in a group dynamic that a tight-knit group of prepubescent girls would get this dysmorphic image of themselves as overweight despite being rake thin.
And this mental condition would lead to all kinds of problems for these, you know, growing young women.
Is this like bulimia and anorexia?
Dr. Grossman, who is an MD, who is a psychologist said, a psychiatrist said, yeah, this is exactly, this is the new bulimia, the new anorexia.
We didn't encourage that.
You know, we celebrated people who battled it and overcome it.
Like, I think, you know, Diana, Princess Diana was famous for overcoming it.
But we didn't say, yeah, that's really good.
Can I help you?
That's the difference today.
It is the difference.
But if you think about the way that the children and the education is working, it's all critical theory.
It's all this idea of criticizing and turning against to be at odds with, right?
And so if I criticize you about your weight constantly, well, I'm going to give you a body image.
If I criticize you about your race, I'm probably going to give you a race disorder image.
If I criticize your gender or your sex constantly, You're probably going to become pretty critical about that.
And so children are just immersed in this very critical, theory-laced curriculum and education.
Where the abnormal is normalized.
Where the abnormal is normalized, and then the abnormal is celebrated.
So it becomes now these children look for a place to be.
I was just on Dr. Phil.
It'll come out at the end of September, I think.
and brought in to talk about parental rights.
And I looked at Dr. Phil and I said on this issue of gender ideology, Tavistock, the gender clinic in England, was just closed.
The infamous gender clinic was just shut down.
Yes, and they're separating into two, and they will have a very, very strict vetting process for the children that will be able to continue down this path.
And if you have any comorbidity, you stop.
You're going to funnel out 99% of kids who may have been pushed into this area.
And I asked Dr. Phil, Dr. Phil, did you know that 35% of the girls that were going through this treatment at Tavistock have moderate to severe autism?
Which is difficult... This is what nobody wants to talk about, is the incredibly high rate of autism amongst these children.
What, did he know that?
No, he did not know that.
And I asked him, and he said, I wasn't aware of that.
I didn't know.
And so the truth of the matter is, you're seeing all these children that are presenting with these comorbidities.
COVID has not helped these girls, right?
And I still say, as the mom of a daughter, as a woman myself, find me a middle school girl who loves going through puberty.
Right.
Tell me who feels great about that when you're going through it.
Find a guy who's excited.
It's not an easy time in a child's life.
There are a lot of changes happening and instead of embracing those changes and helping children to feel comfortable in their bodies, what we're telling them is maybe they were born in the wrong body and that is just nonsense.
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One big question on my long list of things I wanted to ask you is parental choice, parents' choice.
Is this the silver bullet, giving parents the choice when it comes to education?
Is this going to solve it all, or is what we are facing bigger than that?
Trusting parents is the way forward.
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You have to be the expert of your own child and trust yourself and work within your community to build that support system.
As far as school choice is concerned, I believe in school choice because I believe in parents making the best decision for their kids.
That means informed choice.
Parents need all of the information possible so they can make the best decision for their child.
But I don't think school choice alone solves this.
We've seen a lot of private schools that have been captured.
Parents are concerned about, you know, where they're going to send their child to school.
And as a mom, I know it's not easy to change your child's school.
There's a lot that goes into that, right?
And that's something that you do with your child.
So I think it's important to recognize as we continue to advocate for school choice that we make sure that the federal strings aren't attached to that money and that we're working in our own communities to help to build the marketplace so that when choice, like in Arizona, is offered.
Recently in Arizona, they had groundbreaking education savings accounts passed so that parents can make that choice for their children about where to go.
But in a community, what are you going to do, right?
Is there a good school in your community?
Can you be a part of creating that opportunity for your children?
We can't rely on other people to help us to reclaim education and build back better in America.
We have to be the ones that make that happen.
And so our moms and dads across the country are involved in starting new schools and starting pod schools and looking for other options for their kids, but in also reclaiming public education because there's a large segment of children that will continue in public schools.
And where we are right now, and if I seem a little annoyed or angry, I get a little annoyed and angry.
That's okay.
Conservatives very much focused on school choice.
It was school choice or die for how long?
20 years?
25 years?
And now we reach this moment where school choice is great, but it's not the only answer.
And we did cede the ground of education and public education in America quite a bit, and it's time for us to find our place again and lead.
Yes, school choice only works if the schools you have to choose from aren't all woke.
If you get school choice and everything private and public is woke, then it really doesn't matter.
So, again, momsforliberty.org, for Tiffany Justice on Twitter.
Let me just share a little personal story with all of you.
That may help illustrate, I think, perhaps why Tiffany does what she does, and perhaps she can comment on it.
So my wife that you know very well, Katie, detests politics.
She thinks it's filthy, disgusting, and she's absolutely right.
However, without telling me, clearly she had not read St.
Paul's letter about men and women and husbands and wives, she announced to me one day that she had signed up to be a candidate in a local election.
She didn't ask my permission, she just did it.
Before I, you know, pick myself up off the floor, I realized, I have to ask why?
You hate politics.
Why did you do this?
And it's because of things like this.
It's because of, here we have just one story on the drag queen story hours across America.
And our local community center, which is supposed to run the library and the kids programs, had a drag queen story hour, just like the one that Eric is going to put on the screen right now.
Thank you.
And she said, this is wrong.
This has to stop.
And that's why she ran for local office.
God bless Katie and she's continuing the fight, as are you, as are Tina.
What is your message to those out there who think...
There's no drag queen story hour in my local community center.
I'm not political.
I have no role to play.
What is your message to them, Tiffany?
My message is have you seen enough yet in other communities?
Does it have to happen in your own community?
You don't put a bike helmet on your child because they've been hurt before.
You put one on your child because you know there's the potential for them to get hurt.
Does every county have to be Loudoun County where a child is being raped in the bathroom to know that boys shouldn't be in women's spaces?
Men shouldn't be in women's spaces.
So, in private spaces like that.
So, you know, I give Katie a lot of credit.
It is not easy to run for office.
I recognize, you know, we're getting into a field where we haven't had a lot of people, but courage is contagious.
And the more people like us, moms and dads, that get involved, who aren't career politicians, but genuinely care about their country and want to make a difference, the more of us that are there, we can elevate the entire situation.
And I really feel like it's that spirit of America coming back.
Where people are running for office for the right reasons.
Not a career in politics, but because they love their community and want to make a difference.
And those people who are listening need to know that they're not alone, correct?
That you are not alone.
And I promise when you stand up, and that's why we created Moms4Liberty, so that you could see that there are other people around you.
And I know sometimes it's scary for parents.
You worry, is the school district going to retaliate against my child or against me?
They might.
I'm not going to lie to you about that.
But when you realize that not doing something Is more dangerous than taking action and standing up?
I promise you, you will be motivated to continue to make that change.
Here's the simple thing.
We can just summarize it down if you'll indulge me into one sentence.
If you're not going to fight for your children, who is?
Okay guys?
All right.
God bless you, Tiffany, everybody involved in Moms for Liberty, Tina, all the chapters.
How many chapters?
215.
Incredible.
If you don't have one where you are, make one, build it, and they will come.
That's a good tagline for a movie.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
It is the Parents' Revolt.
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