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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Is it time to declare American RINOs extinct?

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	Thank you.
	Happy one day.
	Wednesday.
	I don't know how you spell na-na-na, but I can spell goodbye.
	Goodbye, Liz Cheney.
	Na-na-na.
	Welcome, dear friends, to American First on the Salem Radio Network, broadcasting across the nation to more than 3 million people on 300 stations, live streaming on Rumble.
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	Far too many whiskeys before the show started.
	No, I am a teetotaler, by the way.
	It's just talking fast when you're very, very happy can be challenging!
	She spent 7.3 million dollars and she lost Eric Lendrum, my math man.
	How much did Liz Cheney, the scion of the Cheney dynasty, lose her primary by?
	Was it 3%?
	Was it 7%?
	Or was it more?
	This has got to be a record somewhere.
	She lost to Harriet Hageman by 37%.
	What?
	You mean 3.7%, right?
	It was a nail-biter, right?
	Move the decimal over one more and then you're good.
	37?
	But hang on, this is the woman who was standing up for democracy and the republic single-handedly in the January 6th committee.
	How is that possible, Eric?
	I can think of many, many, many reasons.
	But in the end, I don't care the reason, she's gone.
	That's got to be a record somewhere, that kind of a landslide.
	We were trying to debate this.
	In political upsets, we're going to have him on next.
	It's probably close to, what, David Bratt's victory against Eric Cantor in, what was that, 2014?
	And it's almost as big as the upset.
	There was that little election a couple of years ago.
	My old boss beat Hillary Clinton.
	I think we're kind of close in that zone.
	Mr. G, you had no doubt, no doubt that Hageman was going to pull it out.
	Am I correct?
	Yes, I was absolutely sure that she was going to lose.
	But I am not as happy as everybody else because she loves this.
	It's going to make her the folk hero.
	She gave up her seat.
	She's going to be everywhere the next year.
	We're not going to be done with her.
	You mean she's not going?
	Alright, we're going to play some cards guys.
	Don't go anywhere.
	But here's the big question.
	I don't want to get carried away.
	We're going to dedicate the whole third hour of the show to Matt Gaetz's analysis.
	One of the true America's first anti-rhinos out there.
	I was on a long two and a half hour-long live Twitter space yesterday, just me taking questions.
	And somebody said in the midst of it, as I was scrolling down my Twitter feed, said, that's it.
	President Trump has destroyed three political dynasties now, the Bushes, the Clintons, and the Cheneys.
	And somebody on the call said, oh, don't forget the McCains, okay?
	That's four Rhino and Democrat political dynasties President Trump has destroyed.
	However, Mr. G, is it too early?
	Am I getting too excited to say that the Rhino class is finally extinct in the swamp?
	No way, there's way too many of them.
	But we're going in the right direction.
	We're going in the complete right direction.
	How about, let me rephrase it this way.
	Is the GOP now Donald Trump's party?
	Oh, absolutely.
	100%.
	It's been that for a while.
	Okay, good, good.
	We've got to have the latest stats there.
	He's got to be like 119 or 120 to 9 in terms of his endorsements.
	We'll get that.
	We'll share it to you.
	But if you think I'm making too much of her ego, I'd love to get some... I know you're not supposed to diagnose at a distance, but I'd love somebody with psychiatric training to just... This woman...
	Who raised $15 million for this campaign.
	For a primary.
	Raised $15 million.
	She's kept half of it because, yeah, she wants to run for president.
	This woman who is in league.
	with the pedophile protectors of the Lincoln Project actually thinks she's like Abraham Lincoln.
	I'm not, I'm not putting words in her mouth.
	She thinks she is the new Abraham, transgender.
	It's gotta be trans, right?
	She's the new transgender Abraham Lincoln.
	Abraham Lincoln in a skirt.
	If you don't believe me, cut three.
	This is Liz Cheney, Darth Vader's daughter, yesterday.
	The great and original champion of our party, Abraham Lincoln, was defeated in elections for the Senate and the House before he won the most important election of all.
	Lincoln ultimately prevailed, he saved our union, and he defined our obligation as Americans for all of history.
	Mr. G, you know me.
	I think you have quite a fun time working here, although you have reneged yet again on bringing your cowboy hat in studio.
	Therefore, there will be a short discussion after the show.
	However, I think you have fun here.
	If I played this scenario for you... Imagine if I got involved in politics.
	I know it's a crazy idea.
	But imagine I got involved in politics.
	I wouldn't mind being governor of Virginia.
	That's something I'd do.
	That's a serious job.
	That's a job where you can get stuff done.
	Imagine if I leapfrogged from governor of Virginia, somehow managed to have a groundswell movement change the U.S.
	Constitution to allow naturalized citizens to become candidates for the presidency, and I won the presidency as an immigrant Even then, even then, after achieving something quite big as an immigrant, becoming president, I wouldn't compare myself to Abraham Lincoln.
	What?
	Is this woman for real?
	I don't get it.
	I don't understand anything.
	I think this is part of the problem.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Mr. G just said, did you hear all of you out there?
	He said he doesn't understand anything.
	But you're the guy we trust to give us the political analysis.
	But the dumbest thing, it just shows how she's been the last week.
	She rolled out her father, Dick Cheney, to do these ads for her as if he was going to persuade anybody.
	Nobody likes Dick Cheney.
	Nobody in the Democrat party, nobody in the Republican party likes Dick Cheney.
	That is... Wow.
	You nailed it.
	How stupid or how out of touch do you have to be to roll out the most unpopular politician on both sides of the aisle to do your campaign ad?
	So we're just talking about somebody who's deluded or just narcissistically egotistical or both?
	Both.
	OK.
	All right.
	If you guys think we're just making this stuff up and having too much fun, here she is this morning being...
	Being asked if she's going to run for the presidency.
	This is cut to.
	I will be doing whatever it takes to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office.
	Well, you didn't say yes or no, and that's fine if you're thinking about it, but are you thinking about it?
	Are you thinking about running for president?
	That's a decision that I'm going to make in the coming months, Savannah.
	I'm not going to make any announcements here this morning, but it is something that I'm thinking about.
	There you have it.
	There you have it.
	From the horse's mouth.
	Yes, she's thinking about it.
	That's incredible.
	Liz Cheney, who was the face of the January 6th committee, who decided to vote against her own president, to impeach him and then persecute him in a show trial where there's no cross-examination, there's no witnesses for the defense.
	That woman?
	I think we've just seen an encapsulation of what we are fighting.
	We get the left.
	The left hates America.
	We have to deal with that.
	We have to deprogram at least two generations of Americans that think America is not the problem as opposed to... think it's the problem as opposed to the greatest nation on God's earth.
	But when somebody so Goes against, undermines, forsakes their oath.
	Because she's not just a carpenter or a bus driver.
	She's a sworn official representing a constituency of America.
	She has so forsworn her job.
	And she thinks after the failure, such an egregious failure, 37 points behind a contender nobody had heard of outside of Wyoming six months ago.
	But she actually thinks that she could be the president of the most powerful and greatest nation on God's earth.
	She is the anti-Trump.
	She's the anti-American candidate.
	And if she runs, please run.
	I would love to see our economy buoyed by the millions of dollars you'd waste on those TV ads and those campaign commercials.
	But you are a perfect embodiment of the elite who so despises real America, who so thinks they are entitled to power because of their last name.
	You're no better than the Clintons or the Bushes.
	In fact, you're worse.
	As Greg Gutfeld just said, There's a similarity between O.J.
	Simpson and Liz Cheney.
	They have a lot in common.
	Except O.J.
	Simpson stabs people in the front.
	Ouch, Greg.
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	Mr. Brat.
	- All right.
	Hey, how we doing, Zeb?
	Good, good.
	Are you excited?
	No, I'm dead, man.
	I lost in racquetball this morning.
	I woke up with allergies or something.
	Oh, no!
	Yeah, I feel fine, but I feel like I got hit by a truck this morning.
	You don't have a headset, do you?
	Because you're a bit roomy.
	Sounds a bit echoey.
	I do not.
	Alright, Jeff, mail this guy two headsets.
	One to his university and one to his home, alright?
	Like we did for Mark Morgan.
	Alright, good.
	Two segments, we're gonna talk Swamp, we're gonna talk IRA, and we're gonna have some fun!
	Three minutes.
	Good.
	Good.
	All right.
	We've got lots of calls coming in.
	Leonardo Ray from Livermore.
	Love it.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	What IRA?
	What's the IRA?
	The Inflation Reduction Act.
	Come on, dude.
	Oh, that.
	Yeah, I know.
	I know.
	Not Irish Republican Army.
	That was the first thing I thought.
	This is more dangerous than that.
	I missed the heading.
	What did you want to say?
	All right, two and a half minutes.
	Title for that one?
	Monologue?
	The dumbest politician in America, question mark.
	No, Liz Cheney, the dumbest politician in America.
	No question mark.
	No comment.
	Don't tell me you're friends with her.
	No, no.
	What's with Palin?
	Is she gonna make it in for sure?
	Not for sure, but she won, right?
	She made it into the top four.
	Again, Alaska's system is weird, but yeah, she made the runoff, yes.
	All right, do we have anything?
	What can we play here for Dave?
	Something with Mansion, perhaps?
	Oh, Mansion!
	Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
	23 seconds long.
	All right.
	All right, we'll use Cut12, definitely.
	We may use Cut11 as well, but Cut12 first.
	Cut12 first.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, and Cut10!
	I'm definitely going to use Cut10.
	All right, so we've got 12, 11... Yep, 90 seconds.
	All right.
	You don't have any books to push, right?
	Thank you.
	No, I should, but I don't.
	You should, dude.
	Get busy.
	I know.
	Stop pretending to be the dean of the business school and get busy.
	I'm a Calvinist.
	So was my mother.
	Hardworking people.
	I know, we don't schlep books.
	It's like, you know.
	I should, though.
	I need a few bucks, too.
	It wouldn't hurt.
	My mother was a Calvinist.
	My father was a cradle Catholic.
	That's good.
	That's a good combo.
	It is.
	That's a good combo.
	That's a good combo.
	All right, 45.
	All right, standby.
	So you'll tee up those cuts?
	I'll tee up the cuts, yeah.
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	First guest of the day and we have a jam-packed show for you today.
	We're going to have the whole third hour with Matt Gaetz.
	We're going to have former Delta Force founder General Jerry Boykin with us.
	But now let's go to somebody who he's probably, you know, lived this Because as we were saying in the opening monologue, yesterday's results, especially in Wyoming, we're trying to think of big and upset as what occurred yesterday.
	And we went back to 2014 and your race against Cantor, Dave Brat.
	Dave Brat, we can't think of anything as big, apart from President Trump's victory over Hillary.
	Than you, the complete new guy, non-politician, taking down a complete establishment politician.
	So, we don't do politics in terms of advocacy here, because you are a university professor, but I'd like to ask in the broader scheme of things, how significant is the last 24 hours?
	Well, I think it's just like my race.
	I mean, the symbolism was huge and it was a great win.
	And I owe all my friends back in the Virginia 7.
	But, you know, the Virginia Tea Party, Radke did Yeoman's work setting all that up.
	And so, you know, I was lifted up on the shoulders.
	And so I think similar.
	Lastly, it's a huge symbolic.
	A win, and it's a huge win, but there's a populist realignment going on that fortunately probably won't be just red versus blue or Republican and Democrat.
	It's going to be a populist realignment for the middle class.
	And, you know, on the policy side, the Republicans are now cut off from the U.S.
	Chamber of Commerce.
	And so no one knows this, of course, because the left owns all the ink.
	And our side is the worst marketing department I've ever seen when it comes to messaging.
	And so I think the middle class now gets it, though.
	Consumer sentiment is at its all-time low.
	Consumer feelings and outlook and the perception of the real world economy right now is the same as it was after the collapse of the 2008 financial crisis.
	He got to University of Michigan, you know, consumer sentiment.
	So, you know, that's everybody knows what's going on.
	You can read the papers and people say there's no recession, there's no inflation.
	And the average person is going, man, whoever's saying that, I'm going the other team.
	Well, let's look at how that happened whilst these political events are occurring.
	The raid on Mar-a-Lago, the win in Wyoming against the establishment of a RINO candidate.
	We had the incumbent in the White House sadly sign the IRA, the Inflation Reduction Act, which is actually the opposite of what it will do.
	And it was thanks to, very specifically, Senator Joe Manchin.
	We have shocking audio of how it was Bill Gates, he admits, Bill Gates admits on a podcast That he was the guy who reached out to Manchin and convinced him to vote for this disastrous, disastrous bill, which is the size of the American defense budget, guys, okay?
	It's almost the same size as the Pentagon's budget, and it is literally burning money.
	But here is Joe Manchin, who says, don't worry about it, you know, the 87,000 IRS agents, he's gonna stop them single-handedly.
	Cut 12, play cut.
	We're going to follow all the way through.
	I'm going to follow to make sure the IRS doesn't harass anybody.
	And I would encourage all of my political friends to make sure their staffs are in contact with the IRS.
	I want to make sure the EPA doesn't overreach and it's balanced of how they do it.
	You know, there's always a way to go out.
	Rather than going out with a cease and desist order, go out with an idea of how you make it better.
	Work together.
	Now, you were a citizen politician.
	Can you just comment on this idea that one senator who's got 22, 23 staffers is going to stop the IRS that now has 160 agents whose work description on the website says, be prepared to carry a gun and use lethal force.
	Are these people that you used to be surrounded by, are they just liars or detached from reality?
	Yeah, this is a shocker.
	You know, Manchin, he's been fighting his own crew the whole time on, you know, packing the court and the filibuster rules, and so he did a lot of good work.
	But right, the one man who could have stopped the tens of thousands of IRS agents and the nonsensical Green movement, which has not been market tested, he used his one vote when he had the leverage to do the wrong thing.
	And it's always at the allure of these technocrat oligarchs, right?
	I don't know what it is, why they're so attractive to these elites.
	But, you know, just to get to say I know, you know, these billionaire oligarchs and they're my friend or something.
	And Joe knows better.
	And boy, I'll bet you he's getting an earful back home from West Virginia because he just went upside down from the constituent wishes as far as I can read it.
	Yeah, West Virginia, coal country, real working Americans, the kind of Americans that built this nation and really this senator has stabbed them in the back.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, we're talking to Dave Brat, he is the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, liberty.edu.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
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	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	First, we're going to continue our economic analysis with Professor Dean Dave Bratt after these messages.
	Have you heard this interview, Dave, where Gates says he's the one that convinced Manchin?
	Yeah, I saw it this morning.
	Yep.
	All right, so I'm gonna play... That's cut 11.
	Yeah.
	You want to come in or tee it up?
	I want to do Patriot Supply, so... Okay.
	So I'll probably tee up Gates, and then I'll tee up Biden on how this act helps the American people.
	Cut to him.
	And if you've got time, I've got a few words on this modern monetary theory.
	the far left AOC stuff, and you brought in Marxism.
	And I'll say, a lot of people invoke this Marxist thing.
	I got a little proof for you.
	It's in a Cato Journal article, volume 43. - Oh, good. - A nice little review.
	But they want a total takeover of monetary by the federal government and the fiscal policy to take over monetary and structure the entire macro economy.
	And so that's all in.
	Well, it's like that woman they had nominated for comptroller who said that she wants all private checking accounts to be federalized.
	Right, right.
	And that's what they're going for.
	I mean, that's... Yep.
	And so it's in print in a very fair summary of this modern monetary theory.
	And it comes out of quantitative easing, right?
	Prior when you make money, it's based on a business transaction, right?
	Some guy comes up with a business proposition, asks for a loan, the bank takes the money, but it's based on, you know, the market's already done the math.
	Right.
	Quantitative easing, they just threw it like spaghetti.
	and just liquidity awash in the hope that it finds a deal like China's doing.
	They're just throwing liquidity and they're rebuilding apartment buildings that they're tearing down.
	What is your take?
	Hey, we love this.
	Free money for spending on everything.
	What is your take on the fragility of the Chinese economy?
	Oh, I think it's over.
	I mean, they had five trillion stimulus the last three years in a row.
	Five, five, five.
	I mean, that's, that's a, you know, a third of their GDP.
	And I think it's just like Japan, the whole thing's going to crack.
	And then, but they're good.
	They're good at covering it up, man, because they don't, I mean, they, I don't know.
	They're, they're amazing at cover up and suffering.
	- Oh yeah. - But when you have tanks in the street, it's never a good look.
	No.
	All right, 50 seconds. Stand by.
	All right.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	I just... Look, don't get angry with the messenger.
	I just want you to understand we've got two more years of this.
	Yeah, two more plus years of this.
	And it's not going to get better.
	We provide you the truth.
	We get the economic analysis from great minds like Professor Bratt.
	But there's nobody who's going to fix it inside the building.
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	We are back with the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University.
	Of course he's already heard it because he's such a professional.
	For those of you who haven't, the million's listening right now.
	This is it.
	This is where Bill Gates confesses on a podcast.
	He's the guy that pushed Manchin over the edge to vote for this atrocity.
	$739 billion of your money that will be burnt and will drive up inflation.
	Here he says, I'm the guy, cut 11.
	And in maintaining that dialogue, including in the last month where, you know, people felt like, okay, we tried, we're done, it failed.
	And, you know, because I believed it was a unique opportunity, my trying to bridge the communication gap and encourage people to make one more effort, you know, by, because of the relationship we'd built up over time, You know, we were able to talk even at a time when he felt people weren't listening.
	He being Manchin.
	There you have Bill Gates, one of the richest men in the world, saying he's the guy who has royally screwed the working class and the middle class in America.
	And I apologize for the language, but that is a statement of fact.
	Dean Bratt, I'm going to play a short cut from the President after he signed the bill, his analysis of what he did when he signed the Inflation Reduction Act.
	Cut 10.
	The Inflation Reduction Act does so many things that, for so many years, so many of us have fought to make happen.
	And let's be clear.
	In this historic moment, Democrats sided with the American people, and every single Republican in the Congress sided with the special interests in this vote.
	Every single one.
	So is that your experience of working in Congress, that a $700 billion bill that doesn't give any money to special interests, Professor Bratt?
	Yeah, it kind of sounded like a camp counselor, you know, he had a nice personal relationship.
	It's nice that, you know, these senators have personal relationships with the millions and millions of people in their States and even outside of their states.
	So there's the catchy little piece.
	But to really get at what's going on, everybody needs to go get that book, The Real Anthony Fauci, by another Democrat, Robert Kennedy Jr.
	And the Fauci part, you already know that part.
	Skip the first eight chapters.
	Go on to chapter nine, where he does the transition from the Rockefeller Foundation to the Gates Foundation.
	to see the immense influence of money.
	At first, it's always cloaked in terms of non-profits and do-gooding.
	And then, oops, right after all that non-profit money, the big pharma comes in and sweeps it up for hundreds of billions of dollars in profits and special interest money.
	And so, yeah, this is just the tip of the iceberg, the signal, the quiet part out loud that usually doesn't happen.
	But yeah, so if you think this is good for the middle class, Good luck.
	It's inflationary when inflation is already at nine.
	And it's going to stimulate more federal spending.
	And the Federal Reserve isn't doing anything either.
	And if you got a minute, I can give you a little primer on that one.
	We got 30 seconds.
	Tell us about this whole quantitative easing scam.
	Yep.
	Yeah, just quantitative easing doesn't require any business transactions the way money used to be produced, where there's a business proposition that somebody's had to do a little math.
	And so go look up Cato.
	Cato's got a nice piece, Journal 43, on modern monetary theory.
	And you'll see what the left has in mind.
	They want to take over all monetary policy by the federal government.
	Right now, the Fed is supposed to be independent, and it's doing a terrible job, right?
	We had 0% interest rates for 10 years and propped up another huge stock market rise for the rich.
	And the middle class got nothing except inflation and $30 trillion in debt to show for it.
	And so go look up by that Cato Journal.
	It's just a short little piece, 10, 15 pages.
	And again, when you're printing money, when you're throwing money at an issue, you don't solve anything.
	You just pump up prices and the dollar is worth less and less.
	God bless you.
	He's Dave Bratt.
	He is the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, liberty.edu.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Mansion betrays West Virginia and America.
	Uh-huh.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Bill Gates got Mansion to flip.
	Got Mansion to flip.
	And can you play me the two pence cuts, four and eight?
	Four and eight.
	Go ahead, give it to him.
	If there was an invitation to participate, I would consider it.
	Any invitation to be directed to me, I would have to reflect on the unique role that I was serving in as Vice President.
	It would be unprecedented in history for a Vice President to be summoned to testify on Capitol Hill, but as I said, I don't want to prejudge.
	Oh, that's what I usually do.
	It's 3.20, yeah?
	Okay, so can we – what do we – MR.
	No, it worked out.
	Let's put the Trump thing.
	350.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	Sorry, play it again.
	Give it now.
	If there was an invitation to participate, I would consider it.
	Any invitation to be directed to me, I would have to reflect on the unique role that I was serving in as Vice President.
	It would be unprecedented in history for a Vice President to be summoned Testify on Capitol Hill, but as I said, I don't want to prejudge.
	We can hold the Attorney General accountable for the decision that he made without attacking rank-and-file law enforcement personnel at the FBI.
	The Republican Party is the party of law and order.
	No.
	That's the thing, is that they try to say, oh, because we back the blue, that means we support, like, all federal law enforcement.
	Right, right, right.
	Slippery slope.
	Alright, um, 45 seconds.
	Want to use any cuts this segment besides those?
	No, I'm not using any cuts, I'm just, I just wanted to see them.
	Calls.
	Oh, okay.
	Yep.
	Alrighty.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds.
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	Jeff's right.
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	Let's go to your calls.
	Our good buddies are on the line.
	Let's go to Ray in the tall grass somewhere in Livermore.
	Line three.
	Welcome, Ray.
	Hey, thank you, Dr. G. It's tough getting through to the show these days, boy.
	I know, I know.
	I mean, you know, people want to come out of the closet as patriots, and we love that.
	Yeah, and also, as the great Russ Lombaugh once said, It's the job of the caller to make the host look good.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	And you do it very, very well, my friend.
	So I called about Cheney, but I got to chime in about the Inflation Increasement Act.
	Oh, that's good.
	We're going to invent a word.
	Increasement.
	I like that.
	The Inflation Increasement Act.
	Yes, go ahead.
	Yes.
	If 117 Nobel laureates said that inflation is transitory, What do we need a billion dollar spending bill?
	Oh, oh, that's genius.
	That's genius.
	No, hang on.
	Hang on.
	Forget the hundred and twelve Nobel laureates.
	Biden, you know, Creepy Joe said it.
	He said it was transitory months ago.
	Right.
	So what do we need to spend all this money?
	It's going to go away.
	But that said, only in the swamp, only in D.C.
	Can you fail upward?
	I think Cheney is the Republican Party's Beto O'Rourke in that, you know, when you fail at something, you shoot at the next highest target instead of, you know, trying to gain your ground or... I really think, Ray, that she thinks she can be president.
	She can lose by 37% yesterday and she can be a national figure.
	What she doesn't realize is she's the tortoise and the Democrat party is the scorpion who's riding on her back right now, okay?
	And she thinks that she's swimming across the creek, but the scorpion is going to sting the tortoise.
	And if you're going to bring your dad in, That would have been quite amusing.
	Alright, you're too good at this stuff.
	You do make me look good.
	If you don't vote for my daughter, I'm going to shoot your face off.
	That would have been quite amusing.
	All right, you're too good at this stuff.
	You do make me look good.
	Do you want the FBI Gestapo mug or do you want the Liz Cheney Your Fire T-shirt?
	I'll take the mug, Dr. G.
	And you know what?
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	Dr. G, I have a hard time believing that your store makes any money because you're constantly giving everything away.
	Yeah, I know.
	Randy gives me a hard time about that.
	But we're surviving.
	It's not the making the money.
	It's getting the message out there.
	Stay on the line.
	He gets the FBI is the Gestapo mug.
	You should get yours too.
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	Let's go from one friend to another.
	On the other side of the greatest nation on God's earth in the state of New Jersey, it is Leonardo!
	Hey, Sebastian.
	It's been a while.
	It's been a while.
	Yeah, a couple of.
	What he just said is true.
	You're too popular.
	It's hard to get through.
	You gotta start calling them before you come on air now.
	Some people do that.
	Some people start dialing as soon as my previous show ends.
	My Salem colleague.
	And I haven't even started the monologue and the call board lights up.
	You gotta be fast.
	Early bird catches the worm.
	There you go.
	I know you love words.
	You're a wordsmith.
	So, you know, putrid, stinking, fetid, and malodorous, right?
	Those are alternate definitions of the word rank, like in rank choice voting in Alaska.
	I just wanted to chime in on Murkowski because you brought up Cheney.
	Here's the family dynasty.
	She was appointed by her father, Frank, when you look into it, right?
	Her first name's Lisa, so I'm going to skip over to another Lisa.
	How about Lisa Odin's Monaco, who pretends to be not in charge, right?
	She's got to be doing all this because she's like a rabbit Wattwilder that works for... She is running the DOJ.
	Lisa Monaco is the one who's telling the AG to sign the search warrant raid against President Trump.
	You nailed it, my friend.
	It's true, because Merrick Garland, he's too busy getting kickbacks from his 27-year-old son-in-law, who spread CRT to over 2,300 school systems, and you and I and the rest of the Patriots are paying for it with our tax bills.
	Meanwhile, he's too busy trying on Melania's dresses.
	He's the new Komi.
	Sorry, the new J. Edgar Hoover.
	Nicely done, my friend.
	Stay on the line.
	You deserve a Gestapo mug as well.
	Let's go to David, line one in California.
	David, welcome to America First.
	Oh, thanks for taking my call, Sebastian.
	I have a question for you.
	First of all, I always consider you to be the George Patton of the airways, so I'm complimenting you before I get to my point.
	My point is... Far too kind, but carry on.
	Liz Cheney went down in flames, and I'm glad.
	I despised her.
	The problem is, Kevin McCarthy wants to be Speaker of the House, and you remember that infamous phone call where he told her, you know, I'm tired of this guy?
	So how in the world, as a voter, am I supposed to look at Kevin McCarthy and say, what's the difference between Liz Cheney and you?
	Cheney came out and vomited vocal crap about America all the time.
	He's a backstabber.
	And I just wanted your, give me something I can hang on to.
	Yeah, I'll give you one thing to hang on to, and I'm actually going to raise this issue.
	Thank you.
	It's very important with our special one-on-one guest this afternoon.
	Matt Gaetz is going to be on for the whole hour.
	Matt Gaetz and MTG, Marjorie Tellegreen, were on the show where he talked about how after the midterms we have to turn every committee into a hardcore investigatory committee.
	What happened?
	I don't know if Kevin McCarthy was listening to the show but within 24 hours he said exactly the same.
	He gave a public statement where he said after the midterms we are going to subpoena and we're going to find out the truth.
	Now I don't care if he's saying it because somebody told him to or because he listened to the show.
	If we can influence somebody who's otherwise a little weak, then we can still win.
	God bless you.
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	They're trying to cancel everybody.
	They're not just coming after President Trump.
	Look at what they're doing to his buddy, Mike Lindell.
	First, the big box stores, you know, the Kohl's and the Bed Bath & Beyond.
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	Let's go to line 4, Jim in California.
	Welcome, Jim.
	Hey, Dr. G. You are the real Conan the Barbarian of radio.
	I like that.
	I just don't want to have to do it stripped down to a leather pair of Speedos, okay?
	No leather Speedos here, okay?
	None of us do.
	But I can't take credit for this, but the best analogy of Liz Cheney's speech last night was by Clay Travis, who him and Buck Sexton do an admirable job filling in for Rush's spot, said that Liz Cheney sounded like a high school basketball player who got cut from his high school team and has declared for the NBA draft.
	That's pretty good.
	We love Buck.
	We love Clay.
	Yeah, it's worse than that because she actually compared herself to Abraham Lincoln.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Let's go to George, Columbus, Ohio, line one.
	Welcome, George.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	I'd like to say my name is George.
	My preferred pronoun is he-man.
	I'm in the car, driving home from work.
	I like that.
	He-man.
	I like that.
	I might have to use that in the future.
	Carry on.
	Question, comment.
	The comment is we've got to stop calling this a raid because we're really melting the snowflakes.
	We don't want to melt the snowflakes.
	We're trying to get along in this time of building.
	We should call it the Mar-a-Lago incursion because even Biden's okay with a minor incursion.
	Yes, I like that.
	I was using the phrase state-sanctioned burglary, but the Mar-a-Lago incursion.
	You are a sagacious individual.
	Not only is your pronoun he-man, you are a wise man as well.
	Stay on the line, George, my friend.
	Let's give George a signed copy of Defeating Jihad, the Mar-a-Lago incursion.
	It's a good thing we can joke about these things because otherwise you'd get very, Very angry, but it's a serious issue and we have to fight back every single day and take back America.
	One school district, one library board election at a time, and I know you guys are up to it.
	They took America away from us, locally, one by one.
	Time for us to stand up and fight back and win, win, win.
	Get politically engaged, my friends.
	This is America First, coming to you live from outside the Maloudris, rank Fetid swamp that is Washington DC.
	So much more to discuss wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Don't you dare touch that dial.
	You're welcome.
	Don't you dare touch that dial.
	Don't you dare touch that dial.
	When you look at these pictures, you get a sense of what black life was like.
	Some of them look pretty prosperous.
	Divine Providence was clearly operating in the lives of black Americans.
	Throughout history, black folks were honorable.
	They had integrity.
	That's what black people were.
	We were never taught that America was bad and that we were not Americans.
	We were raised to love America.
	Protesters topple a statue of Christopher Columbus.
	Hundreds of statues have been vandalized.
	You see people trying to rewrite history.
	The American people know these names have to go.
	Why is that?
	Whenever you have something to be proud of, People have less of a chance of controlling you.
	This country is racist from top to bottom, from right to left.
	And for black people to become a part of that is for them to become, in fact, anti-black, and to hate themselves.
	Y'all better run!
	There is no country in this world that a black person would rather be.
	Unless, of course, they grow up in this country.
	You broke the contract!
	We've been playing this game for 400 years!
	Then they're fed a lie that is so deceptive The reason that that lie exists is power.
	There are certain people who are using the Negro in order to establish their power in Washington.
	And the Negro is just merely a pawn in a game that's bigger than he is.
	I'm so close, right?
	I'm so close.
	There was an illusion being created using the most awesome tools and the greatest tricks that the American intelligence community had learned to use against our enemies.
	Now it was being deployed against the American people and our president.
	This is the biggest political scandal in modern history, which makes Watergate look like a tiff.
	The FBI director has no credibility.
	The left used to not trust the FBI, and now they love them.
	This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn.
	Imagine what they do to anybody who has a single strike against them.
	35 Russian diplomats in the U.S.
	expelled.
	The prosecution of General Flynn wasn't a pursuit of criminal activity.
	It was a setup.
	Flynn actually had details.
	So he was talking about going after people's budgets.
	They were terrified.
	Media didn't start as neutral.
	Media hasn't been neutral all its life.
	The two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out.
	In fact, through WikiLeaks, that she says one thing and...
	Oh, no.
	They worked hand in glove with Comey to try to delegitimize Trump.
	They were not there to tell the truth.
	A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
	Honestly, none of us really know, sort of holistically, what to think about this dossier.
	They went into Congress.
	They said, there's nothing here.
	Doesn't matter.
	We'll keep going with FISA.
	We'll keep going with the investigation.
	And more importantly, we will go on TV, day in and day out, and lie to the American people to their face.
	And nothing's going to happen to us.
	The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.
	And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum!
	Russian scum!
	We had not one person claim that they had or had seen evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
	Devin Nunes was the hero in the forest.
	He was alone.
	He was mocked.
	He was attacked.
	Devin Nunes was subject to such scorn for saying the conclusions that we brought forth in that report, which all proved to be true.
	Russiagate was a false story.
	To target their political opposition.
	To carry out their insurance policy.
	I believe that this is a conspiracy.
	These guys have perpetrated the greatest crime against the American people ever seen.
	It was a coup d'etat.
	This is how sick and twisted these people are.
	First, I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S.
	citizens involved in the Trump transition.
	It was shocking to see some of the over-classification that was done to hide either corruption or abuse of authority and just to make sure certain agencies didn't look bad.
	We have a peaceful transition of power process.
	That's not what happened.
	There were more meetings, there were more leaks, there were more attacks.
	The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing.
	Not just the Democratic Party and their operatives, but also the FBI.
	I was writing about the time frame that we lived in.
	...that we're living in now, I would say it wasn't supposed to happen.
	They weren't supposed to know.
	The entire time this was going on, they thought this was going to be what sunk the Donald Trump presidency.
	and they were just looking for the golden goose and they still haven't found it because it doesn't exist.
	West Coast, anybody copy?
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	And the celebrations continue.
	Can we declare the rhino species extinct in the swamp, and especially in Wyoming?
	Let's ask somebody who isn't just an expert on fighting swamp creatures in what used to be one of the most beautiful states of the Union.
	She fights them everywhere.
	She is the host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 590.
	The Answer also CRN Digital Talk.
	Jennifer Horne, what kind of mood are you in today?
	It is a great day, isn't it?
	I feel like ding-dong, the witch has got her walking papers.
	We need that sound!
	We need that, Alex.
	We need ding-dong, the witch is dead.
	We've been playing na-na, na-na-na-na, hey-hey-hey.
	Goodbye, Liz.
	But she's running for president, so, you know, we can't miss her.
	We can't get rid of her.
	Well, she is the next Abraham Lincoln, Sam.
	I know!
	I mean, if you take millions of dollars from the pedophile protectors at the Lincoln Project, I think she means that makes her Abraham Lincoln.
	Yeah, you know, it's so funny because it has been very clear, I think, to me at least, for the last couple of months that we knew Liz Cheney knew that she wasn't going to win this election.
	And she even, I mean, she got a lot of money.
	$15 million.
	$15 million, which is weird because, sorry to interrupt you, but I want the stats out there.
	She only spent half of it, Jennifer.
	This is the point.
	She raised a lot of money, $15 million, as you said, a lot of it from my state of California.
	And, huh, she didn't put everything she had into winning re-election.
	So it was pretty clear from the beginning that she thinks she is going to run for president.
	She is obviously delusional because, you know, what do you do when you can't win a congressional race in Wyoming?
	Well, clearly the next stop is running for president.
	But I kind of think I know what she's doing.
	She's got Democrats in her ear right now.
	Which, by the way, these same Democrats who literally wanted to take down her and her entire family because Dick Cheney was a so-called warmonger, if you listen to Democrats.
	No, no, no.
	Hang on, hang on.
	Can we get the terminology of the left correct, please?
	You are a communications professional.
	It was John Bolton was the warmonger.
	Dick Cheney was the war criminal.
	That's right.
	He was the war criminal.
	I apologize.
	How silly of me to forget that.
	So yes, you're right.
	He was a war criminal and they wanted to take down the whole family and those Cheneys and those Bushes.
	Now the Democrats have her as a political pawn.
	She doesn't realize it.
	She volunteered to be part.
	She's complicit.
	And this isn't about President Trump.
	In silencing conservative Republican voters because she wants to call them names and call them insurrectionists and protect our republic at all costs.
	And so to do that, to carry out her vendetta, these Democrats are using her as a tool.
	And they're whispering in her ear, and I know who it is.
	It's Congressman Adam Schiff, my congressman, who's in her ear saying, Liz, you're so brave.
	You're saving the republic.
	You are what this country needs.
	You are a patriot.
	And so now this woman thinks that somehow she's going to get Republicans and Democrats and independents to vote for her.
	And I don't even know if she thinks she can win, but I really believe she thinks she's going to run as a third party candidate to prevent Donald Trump from winning.
	So is this 1991 all over again?
	Is this the Ross Perot that's going to steal votes from Donald Trump?
	I think that's what she thinks that she can do, but she doesn't have.
	We were talking about this on The Morning Answer, and Grant and I were talking, at least Ross Perot had a cult following.
	Ron Paul.
	And hang on, sorry, I keep doing this, it's super rude to a lady, and I apologize, but we're radio colleagues, compatriots.
	But Ross Perot was a conservative.
	That's true.
	Ross Perot was more conservative than Liz Cheney.
	That's absolutely true.
	It's just hard.
	I would love to see a debate.
	I would love to see the question come up.
	Liz, or Ms.
	Cheney, what is it that Donald Trump did policy-wise that you disagree with?
	Because this woman voted with him 93% of the time.
	She liked Trump's policies.
	What she has fallen off on is the fact that he has mean tweets, and he says bad things, and now she's gotten into this vendetta that she cannot win, and she's willing to take down the country for it.
	We're already seeing it.
	She should not be sitting on that January 6th panel.
	You know, has been propped up again with these Democrat voices, I think, saying, you are a true patriot.
	You're a hero.
	More, more, more.
	And they're not going to be there for her for one second when she's out of office and if she thinks she's running for the presidency.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let's just in case you guys missed the first hour of the show.
	How dare you!
	But in case you did, here it is where she says, yeah, you know, president.
	Yeah, I'm thinking about it.
	Cut to play cut.
	I will be doing whatever it takes to keep Donald Trump out of the Oval Office.
	Well, you didn't say yes or no, and that's fine if you're thinking about it, but are you thinking about it?
	Are you thinking about running for president?
	That's a decision that I'm going to make in the coming months, Savannah.
	I'm not going to make any announcements here this morning, but it is something that I'm thinking about.
	You know, again, bad for a radio show host.
	I'm speechless.
	As you said, a woman who loses by 37% in Wyoming actually for a fraction of a nanosecond thinks she could be president.
	You live around liberals.
	Yeah.
	How do they believe this stuff?
	Is it really?
	They really live in this Kevlar-clad, cast-iron bubble?
	I mean, that is the statement of somebody who has a psychosis, isn't it?
	Oh yeah, absolutely.
	Like I said, delusional Liz Cheney.
	I mean, there's no self-awareness in this moment for her.
	She literally, and I think maybe the reason she didn't try, and obviously she saved that money probably for a presidential run or for something in the future, so we know that, but maybe there was a piece of her that wanted that excuse, well I didn't even try to get re-elected because I have bigger plans, I have to save the country, I have to save the world, and so I'm going to put on my little Superhero cape and fly myself to Washington, D.C.
	But the sad thing is, no one cares.
	Who are you going to attract?
	Maybe, she thinks, as I mentioned, if she runs as a third-party candidate, she could get Mitt Romney to vote for her.
	But, I mean, who else?
	You've got Never Trumpers who are now more lined up behind Trump after the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
	A couple, you know, just last week.
	So more of those Never Trumpers are lining up behind him.
	You have Democrats who are telling her that she's brave, but they're only using her.
	She's a pawn to them.
	And so, you know, Ross Perot was able to do some spoiling, but again, he had a fan base.
	I'm not sure who Liz Cheney's fan base is.
	She's going to be another one of these people who are going to get some kind of book deal.
	They're going to release a book that two people buy and that probably lines someone's bookshelf.
	I don't even know if they get to it.
	And it's pretty sad.
	It's really, it's kind of, it's pathetic to watch, actually, as another woman.
	But don't forget, don't forget, she can be a contributor on a TV show with 400,000 viewers out of a nation of 340 million.
	When Anna Navarro has a cough, she can be on The View.
	It'll be perfect.
	There you go.
	Here is the future of this woman, Don Lemon and Dana Bash, talking about, you know, the great future that awaits Darth Vader's daughter.
	Cut seven.
	Play cut.
	She is a politician and she wants to have a say in public discourse, but she also is a very famous person who will use her megaphone and her platform to keep saying the kind of thing that she said, and she will get attention.
	She will get a lot of attention.
	So we'll see.
	And there isn't a network who will turn her down if she offers or she wants to come on.
	So she'll be able to discuss all of it.
	No network will turn her down, Jen, because she's very, very famous.
	You know what?
	I want to have what they're having.
	Whatever, their state is a whole lot better than the state that we're sitting in.
	It's funny, if you watch this, and I know some of you are watching on the Salem News Channel right now, you can see Chris Wallace.
	And Chris Wallace, say what you will about him.
	I know that he is all over the place.
	I don't have super high opinions about what he thinks politically.
	But even he realizes that these people are totally out to lunch.
	Everybody's shaking their head going, yes, Don Lemon, yes, she can go anywhere she wants.
	She's really famous.
	People care about what she has to say.
	And Chris Wallace looks like Am I sitting at the right table?
	Are you people talking about Liz Cheney?
	He knows!
	Nobody cares!
	Let's listen to what Chris Wallace has to say about Liz Cheney.
	Cut 5.
	The other thing I would say is in this civil war she declared war on Donald Trump and Donald Trump's Republican Party and she specifically called on Americans not to vote for the dozens of election deniers who have won Republican nominations for the governorship or the Secretary of State roles in various states which would have a dramatic
	We had to go there with the election denying, you know, label.
	But, you know, the first point is a good point.
	Is it not that guess who declared war first?
	It was Liz.
	She did it.
	That's right.
	She made the first shot, right?
	She did it.
	Now she has to pay for it.
	And I think she's going to be riding high because, look, the media is going to pay attention to her.
	Oh yeah.
	But I'm telling you right now, we'll be saying Liz who by next March.
	By the time she's out of Congress, people will be so done with her because she is not that exciting.
	I mean, you listen to her talk.
	It's like snooze fest when she's trying to lead these hearings where she's got all this so-called gotcha evidence.
	She's like the teacher in Peanuts.
	That's what she reminds me of.
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	We haven't really discussed Mar-a-Lago.
	We should do that.
	We should talk Gascogne.
	I have another great one.
	So Gascogne's really good.
	I have a lot of new intel that's coming out about the whole deal.
	But we have to talk about, if you need a laugh, the new Feather Alert system that's coming to California.
	The Feather Alerts!
	Okay, I have no idea what that is but I will brave that front line and I will ask you to explain the feather alert.
	The feather alert.
	Yeah.
	No, no, no.
	Let her surprise us.
	Oh, I'm totally surprising you.
	I don't know.
	Maybe Eric has an idea.
	I don't want any hints.
	Mr. California doesn't know.
	He doesn't know, huh?
	Quiet, Mr. G. Quiet.
	Quiet, Mr. G. Jeff would know.
	This is right up his alley.
	Where's your cowboy hat, Mr. Jeff?
	It's not exactly something I remember to leave my house with every day.
	You promised us!
	I'll bring it tomorrow.
	Are you wearing a cowboy hat now?
	I can't wear it with the headset.
	What am I gonna do?
	Show the photograph, Eric.
	He went for his 40th birthday party.
	He dared to leave the studio for his 40th birthday party.
	Look at that!
	And I had him followed across Nashville and photographs were dumped onto my secure drive.
	All right, back to them.
	Pretty darn nice.
	I like the black hat.
	That's like very outlaw, Jeff.
	Very good.
	That was half a bottle of tequila in, right, Jeff?
	That's fine.
	No, I don't drink tequila.
	Vodka.
	Tequila is evil.
	Tequila is the devil's drink.
	It is to everything bad.
	No, there it was vodka.
	Tito's and club sodas.
	You drink vodka with soda?
	In an event like that, yeah.
	That's so pointless.
	I think we might be like brother and sister.
	I think we were like separated at birth.
	We went to Cabo, we have the same drink.
	Yeah, Tito's is a good drink.
	You drink vodka with club soda?
	Yeah, vodka soda with a twist of lime.
	What's the point?
	It has no taste.
	You might as well be drinking antifreeze from a bottle.
	It's because you don't want the calories.
	You put other stuff in it and it's like extra.
	Not if you buy the premium club soda.
	Which I did during the pandemic since I was at my house saving money.
	Premium club soda.
	What's the taste of premium club soda?
	It is... I can't even think of the name.
	It's Quest is one that's good and there's another one.
	It's like $8 for a four-pack.
	Are you nuts?
	You're a high roller.
	No, it was during the pandemic.
	If I'm at my house and I'm not paying $13 for a drink, I can afford the up to club soda.
	Why do you pay extra for bubbly water?
	Because it tastes better.
	It's like Charlie Kirk.
	He'll only drink Tapa Chico.
	That's what his favorite is.
	Really?
	It's a sparkling water that's imported.
	Is that the Mexican one?
	Yeah.
	Tapa Chico.
	Gosh, I like my SodaStream.
	Tap water with bubbles.
	SodaStream is great.
	My dad's got... I actually have one.
	I need to refill the CO2, though.
	Oh, Fever Tree is a good one.
	That's right.
	Fever Tree's tonic is good, yeah.
	Fever tree.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Has your dad spoken to Phil?
	I think he was.
	I think they exchanged phone calls, so I don't think they've actually talked yet.
	But I'm hoping today maybe.
	He talked to Dave yesterday.
	It's okay.
	Biden's on vacation again.
	Where did he go?
	He is going to...
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	We are back with the one and only Jennifer Horne.
	I have to talk about latest developments and the skullduggery of the attempt to recall Gascogne.
	But first, Because we haven't discussed it at length.
	Your reaction, tell us, how are Californians, what kind of calls from listeners are you getting given the events at Mar-a-Lago last week?
	Are people saying, oh he deserved it, or what's the reaction been?
	I think it's a little bit of, it's a mixed bag.
	Obviously out here in California, there are plenty of liberals who think that they would like to see nothing more than Donald Trump just thrown away, right?
	Throw him into jail, throw away the key.
	They love this kind of stuff.
	But I think more than that, Independence and conservatives, they see what's happening.
	And I think we spoke last week a little bit about the protests at the FBI here in California.
	We actually had two rallies, one last Wednesday afternoon, which was a little smaller, the one on Saturday, bigger, where people showed up to the federal building in Los Angeles.
	and protested the FBI, the lack of transparency that was shown.
	And so I think you'd be surprised that there is actually a lot of pushback here in California, at least amongst conservatives and more fair-minded, independent thinkers who are looking at this situation going, what's happening within the Department of Justice and the FBI?
	And if President Trump had all of these secrets and top secret information, which by the way, by the very nature could be declassified by him, the former president, Why did they wait so long?
	Why the 18 months?
	Why the two weeks when Merrick Garland was trying to go back and forth about whether or not he should allow for this search warrant to be executed on the former president's home?
	Why the slow response to something that they're trying to pitch to the American people?
	Was it a very important matter of national security?
	Or hiding the warrant.
	Why do they refuse to leave the warrant there with the lawyers, which is illegal?
	And why are they refusing to release the affidavit, which supplies the actual reason for the warrant?
	The whole thing stinks.
	It is abuse of power.
	However, it sounds like you're getting a bit of abuse of power in California as well.
	So, we discussed the recall, the collection of signatures.
	You had some very grim predictions and they seem to have come to fruition, correct?
	Yeah, I said before, the last time we spoke about the recall, I said if it makes the ballot, George Gascogne will get recalled.
	But I had my doubts because of the treatment of the recall campaign leading up to the signature verification process.
	A couple of things have happened, and this week it was announced that the Recall Gascogne campaign did not have enough signatures to qualify for the ballot in November to recall George Gascogne.
	They collected over 715,000 signatures, which was 26% more than they actually needed to get this on the ballot.
	But their registrar, Dean Logan is his name, threw out a lot of signatures.
	Tens of thousands of signatures were tossed out.
	On what basis?
	Did they say on what basis?
	Well, they said that there were some address issues.
	The thing that's disturbing to me is about 9,000, 10,000 signatures were thrown out for miscellaneous reasons.
	So they didn't provide a description.
	They said some people signed and weren't registered to vote.
	Other people were signing and they weren't actually living in L.A.
	County.
	But what's troubling about that is that they...
	They just needed to have 27% of the vote, basically.
	They threw out 26% of the signatures, and if they had had 27%, an extra 1%, they would have qualified for this ballot.
	So there's questions as to which signatures were thrown out and why the recall organizers were not allowed to watch the verification process.
	And I learned a little bit.
	I just did a quick Google search about Dean Logan, who is the registrar in LA County.
	And he was actually used as a scapegoat.
	He used to work in Washington State for a gubernatorial election he was involved with.
	They started finding bags of ballots that went uncounted to the tune of a couple hundred here, 300 there.
	It was a big scandal.
	And he ended up being the scapegoat and was kind of fired in disgrace and sent out of Washington State, where he landed in L.A.
	County at the registrar's office in 2018.
	And you may remember this.
	118,000 people in LA County were not allowed to vote during the gubernatorial primary because of a printing error with the voter rolls.
	And this was all under Dean Logan's watch.
	So I think there's some significant problems within the Registrar's Office that need to be dealt with.
	But I've also found that there's some issues with the recall campaign.
	They spent a lot of money in the wrong way with signature-gathering firms and such, and they wasted a lot of money.
	They made $8 million, and a lot of it was wasted, and we didn't get the results.
	Hang on.
	The campaign to just collect the signatures spent more money than Liz Cheney did in Wyoming?
	Are you kidding?
	Imagine that.
	Are you kidding me?
	I know.
	I know.
	For the same result, everybody loses.
	We're in the wrong business.
	I know we are.
	$8 million?
	$8 million to collect signatures?
	So what happens now?
	Is Gascon safe?
	Well, for now he is.
	There is a 21 day period where the recall organizers can go through and look at the signatures that were tossed out.
	Because remember, they hired someone to pre-verify the signatures.
	So it is troubling that they came up with so many to toss out.
	So they're going to be able to look and see what was thrown out and why.
	And they can probably take it to court if there are some issues where they think there was some funny business.
	But this will end up tied up in court for a while.
	So for now, Gascon is safe.
	And we'll see what happens next.
	It's just troubling because they're scrutinizing signatures and throwing out 27 percent of them.
	During the recall of Gavin Newsom, they only threw out 19 percent of the signatures.
	And to just add a little insult to injury, they only threw out one percent of the ballots that were brought in by mail in the state of California for the election.
	So it's fine if you falsify your mail-in ballot, but when it comes to a petition, the scrutiny is on.
	Skullduggery everywhere, but she's keeping an eye on it with her junior partner in crime or fighting crime.
	His name is Grant Stinchfield.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
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	Next up we're going to have One of the founding members of Delta Force, who rose through the ranks to end up as the person in charge of intelligence inside the Pentagon, none other than General Jerry Boykin.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay on this channel.
	This is America First on the Salem News Radio Network.
	So are you saying the campaign was dodgy?
	Yeah.
	And I didn't think so, but a lot of what I've heard from people saying they spent money on consulting firms, they spent a lot of money on these signature gathering places, it's just crap.
	Here's an opportunity.
	And they wasted it.
	And are you going to get it again?
	Because the problem is, the more you do these, people think that they've already signed petitions and it just, you know, it becomes confusing.
	But I will tell you, the feather alert is for missing Indians in the state of California.
	Sorry, sorry, the feather alert is what?
	Is for missing Indians in the state of California.
	How do you, how do you lose an Indian?
	At a casino.
	An indigenous person is what we say.
	Yeah, at a casino, you know, wandering around.
	Apparently there's a new bill that is floating through.
	It's got the, it's an assembly bill and it's got the approval, I guess, of the Senate by the end of the month.
	It's going to get signed.
	So like an amber alert or a silver alert for an old person, they're going to do a feather alert for missing indigenous people.
	Hang on, it is not April 1st.
	Now, the reason that this is so frickin' funny is it's so racist.
	Yes!
	And the state of California is so nuts that they won't even call chief executive officers chief executive officers anymore because they think the term chief is offensive.
	Are they going to use smoke signals?
	I mean, just how racist are they?
	The question is how.
	It's just so stupid.
	You have to send me that story.
	I will send you the story.
	It is just so stupid.
	They must have gotten a lot of wampum or something.
	I don't know.
	Get my peace pipe.
	Thank you, my dear.
	I know.
	I'll send it to you.
	Bye, guys.
	Have a great day.
	Bye.
	Just start putting up missing posters of that crying Indian from that one ad.
	Who wasn't an Indian.
	You know that, right?
	Yes.
	Too good.
	What do you want to call that one?
	The Gascon focus or more the Cheney thing?
	Probably.
	You come up with something.
	Alrighty.
	- Ready? - Hmm. - See, I think this was like the second attempt to recall him.
	Yeah.
	It wasn't the first time, yeah.
	Minute 45.
	So, Boykin's D, right, Jeff?
	Thank you.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	90 seconds.
	Maybe why the Gascon recall campaign failed or something like that.
	Uh, yes.
	Too grim.
	Oh, okay.
	We can learn from this.
	Alright, so we're gonna use the, um... Oh!
	Do you have the cut from yesterday of, uh, Ned Watts' face at State Department about Afghanistan?
	Ned Price.
	Yeah, the 25 second long cut.
	Yes, I have it.
	Will you use that with Boykin?
	Yeah, I'll tee it up.
	Okie dokes.
	That's yesterday's cut.
	No, yesterday was the 16th.
	And again, we have lots of Afghanistan, B-roll, wide variety.
	Okay, good.
	Is he phone or Skype?
	Jeff says Skype.
	Skype. 35 seconds.
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	The January 6th insanity in connection with Liz Cheney continues.
	She will not disappear instantly.
	She even made a statement about how dire the situation is in America.
	She may be no longer representing Wyoming after the election, but this is Cut One, Liz Cheney on January 6th.
	Play Cut.
	I think we have a tremendous amount of work to do, and certainly I am absolutely going to continue this battle.
	I think it's the most important thing I've ever been involved in, and I think it's certainly the most important challenge that our nation has faced in recent history, and maybe since the Civil War.
	And it's one that we must win.
	The greatest challenge since the Civil War.
	Let's talk to somebody who has worn the uniform of this nation for more than 36 years, a founding plank holder member of Delta Force.
	He rose up through the ranks of US government to be in charge of intelligence for the Pentagon.
	Sorry?
	Oh, I've got him.
	I've got him here for C. We will be talking to Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin imminently, but let's take some of your calls waiting very, very patiently.
	Al in California, Line 2.
	Welcome, Al.
	Is this the Panther Faust of broadcasting?
	The Panzerfaust, the broadcasting.
	I don't know.
	Was the Panzerfaust a good weapon, Al?
	Well, it means tank fist.
	It was very effective, very powerful.
	Short range, though.
	Hang on.
	Slow down.
	Just slow down.
	We've got time.
	It was rather short range, though, Al.
	That's true.
	But our bazooka was not that hot either.
	No.
	They both had their limitations.
	OK, if I can get through this at a slower pace.
	Did you happen to see a balance of power, a balance of nature?
	commercial a couple of weeks ago it was interesting and then showed a guy shooting a pistol normally he said it's improved his eyesight no information of criminality just an ordinary mom-and-pop guy shooting a pistol and you never see that in the mainstream media wow i'm gonna have to ask dr douglas howard to send me for the footage of that i've I haven't seen it.
	Thank you.
	It was a balance of nature and he was just a target shooting ordinary guy.
	He said it's improved his eyesight and it was all wonderful.
	But you almost never see the normal 98% of shooters on TV.
	It's only the 1 or 2% miscreants.
	The second point is we're having water problems out here in the West.
	You know, the Colorado River is drying up.
	But even though they're telling us to save water, if you spin the TV dial, 24579, there's nothing about immigration.
	Now, immigrants require water.
	Isn't it funny?
	There's nothing about immigration, legal or not.
	Yeah, and of course there's nothing about baby formula or the warehouses full of baby formula that the DHS have sequestered because we, as American citizens, don't get it for our children.
	But if you're a legal immigrant, then they get it supplied on our dime, Al, our dime.
	Interesting selection of points and questions there.
	Thank you, Al.
	Let's go to Georgia.
	Mike, a line three.
	Welcome to America First.
	Mike, are you there?
	Waited a bit too long, probably.
	Let's go to line 5.
	Ted in New York.
	Ted, welcome.
	Yeah, hey, great show.
	First of all, I did have a topic I wanted to call in for, but I've been listening to the topics of the Mar-a-Lago insurrection, is what I called it.
	It's the real insurrection.
	Yes.
	Do you have a comment or a question?
	I do.
	I have a quick comment.
	I mean, it seems that this bill that they ran through, this inflation reduction stuff.
	It's just typical Democratic politics.
	Nobody can see what's in it.
	Nobody knew what was going on.
	I don't know how the American people are being told by the Democrats that They're doing us a favor.
	In New York, the Democrats can't even run E-ZPass correctly.
	And part of the problem is we don't see what's going on.
	We get a bill and we're stuck paying it or we lose our registration.
	So to me, that's just more government.
	We have to rely on government.
	And it does remind me of the famous quote by Reagan, where the worst thing that you ever want to hear is have somebody knock on the door and say, we're from the government.
	We're here to help.
	I just don't get it.
	Well, just remember what Nancy Pelosi said when that 800-page bill was before the American people, and she said, don't worry what's in the bill, Ted.
	We have to pass it for you to read it.
	I mean, a more fascistic, Stalinist... No, no.
	We write the laws, we pass them, and then once they're signed into law, you get to read them.
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	Can you play me yesterday's cut from the State Department?
	The Ned Price.
	Yeah, go ahead, take it.
	Let me start with this.
	Many of us here at the Department and across the government, and millions of Americans and Afghans alike, are mindful of today's meaning as the 20-year-long U.S.
	military mission in Afghanistan ended nearly one year ago.
	Ending the longest war in American history was never going to be easy.
	But one year later, we are in a stronger position as a country because of the president's decision.
	That's incredible.
	Two minutes.
	Incredible.
	All right.
	You want the mics on for General Boykin?
	No.
	Off.
	All righty.
	Thank you.
	At the Abbey Gate and then another attack, a lot of gunfire close by at a hotel.
	Also, 95 Afghans lost their life to an ISIS offshoot group called ISIS-K has claimed responsibility.
	President Biden vowing revenge.
	Hard to believe that was a year ago.
	Thirteen servicemen and women, mostly from the marines, corpsmen and one army sergeant, murdered because of a treacherous surrender of Afghanistan.
	We remember those people.
	We read the list out of those killed.
	We pray for their souls and for their families.
	The brother of one of those killed committed suicide at the shrine of his lost brother just a few days ago.
	What state are we in as a nation?
	What state are we in geostrategically?
	Let's talk to a man who was a plank holder of Delta Force, 36 years in the Army, rising up to run all intelligence inside the Pentagon.
	He's a good friend of the show, a great American patriot and warrior.
	Now he is Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council, Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Sam, it's always good to be on your program.
	Are you saddened by how In the mainstream media, even in a lot of the conservative media, it seems as if what happened a year ago has already been forgotten, General.
	Yeah, I'm saddened, but I'm also embarrassed.
	I'm embarrassed by our performance there.
	And I'm even more embarrassed that it's not getting better coverage right now, as we reflect on those 13 people that died and the 95 Afghans as well.
	Let's look at the only really significant official statement that came out of this administration.
	This is Ned Price, the State Department spokesperson on the anniversary of the, what shall I call it, the surrender of Afghanistan.
	Play cut.
	Let me start with this.
	Many of us here at the Department and across the government, and millions of Americans and Afghans alike, are mindful of today's meaning as the 20-year-long U.S.
	military mission in Afghanistan ended nearly one year ago.
	Ending the longest war in American history was never going to be easy.
	But one year later, we are in a stronger position as a country because of the President's decision.
	Has the war really ended, General?
	And are we, and do millions of Afghans, like you said, agree that we are all safer today?
	We need to ask a simple question.
	Where was Oman al-Zawahiri when we killed him with a drone strike?
	Yeah.
	He was in downtown Kabul.
	That means that al-Qaeda has re-emerged, has been given safe haven, in the country where the Taliban promised us they would not allow it to become a safe haven for terrorist networks, and that's exactly what they have done.
	And that was just the tip of the iceberg.
	I want to talk about not only the bad policy decisions internationally, but also domestically.
	We have this incredible news out of the UK.
	This is the Daily Mail.
	A female chief, the head of recruitment for the Royal Air Force, has resigned in protest because of the racist hiring policies inside the British military.
	She says that minorities who are not qualified are being given preferential treatment as opposed to white people.
	So based upon skin color, preferences are being given that endangers the RAF's capacity to execute its mission.
	One female has stood up.
	We're not seeing anything like this happening here, but we need to, don't we?
	We absolutely do.
	Look, go back just a couple of weeks ago where the chief of staff of the U.S.
	Army was sending all of the retired generals, like me, an email saying, help us recruit.
	We can't recruit enough people.
	And they can't figure out why.
	Well, they blame it on the economy.
	They blame it on all kinds of things.
	But the reality is they've lost their focus on what the mission of our military is, and that is to win the nation's wars, period.
	It hasn't changed since the military was created.
	And now they can't recruit enough people.
	So what do you think is going to happen now?
	They're going to lower their standards.
	They say they won't, but they will.
	If they want to have the military that we have had in the past, especially the numbers, Then they're going to lower their standards.
	We've seen that before.
	It happened in Vietnam.
	It has happened a couple of times post-Vietnam where they lower the standards and that's what this woman is talking about.
	They are on a woke agenda in the British military.
	You served in that military.
	You know it better than I do.
	Can the big question I have for you with your almost 40 years of service, God bless you sir, Can this be turned around?
	I know President Trump is running.
	He's going to announce imminently.
	If we have leadership back in the White House, if we have the right people for the various Secretaries of the Service and as Secretary of Defense, can it be turned around?
	And how long would it take?
	As somebody who knows what happened after Vietnam, give us your honest expectations.
	Yeah, first of all, I came in right near the end of Vietnam, and my time in Vietnam was relatively short.
	But I will tell you that I think that Obama had eight years to destroy our military, and he did everything he could to destroy our military, and I think it was deliberate, and I think that's what the agenda of the leftist movement is, is to destroy our military capabilities.
	They want a military, but they don't want a military that is ready to fight and win the nation's wars in case somebody was inclined to want to use it.
	So how long will it take?
	Obama had eight years to put us on a road to destruction.
	Trump had four years and he started restoring and he did a lot.
	The thing that takes the longest is to restore the leadership.
	When you look at the senior leaders today, how many of those really got their stars in the Obama administration.
	And now what you're seeing is the results of raising up leaders that are willing to play the political game and support an agenda that has nothing to do with military.
	So how long will it take?
	It's probably another eight years to raise up those leaders that we need.
	And this is at a time when China is just at the front door, so to speak.
	But it can be done, sir?
	It can be done, but we've got to raise up the leaders and we've got to make warriors out of these leaders.
	We don't need woke commanders in the military.
	We need to make warriors out of them.
	They need to be rough, tough people, whether they're man or woman.
	That's what it's going to take, and we have got to restore that.
	That will take some time to get the leadership in that understands war fighting.
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	I can't even imagine.
	This is incredible.
	This is a news item.
	What?
	Okay.
	A government watchdog has obtained emails showing the Secret Service have identified one social media account threatening Speaker Pelosi two days before the January 6th insurrection.
	Did they find out who deleted their emails yet?
	From January 6th?
	Nope.
	And of course, it's the San Francisco Chronicle, so Nancy's calling up her pet paper saying, hey, write this piece about this one guy.
	Did you know all those emails or the texts that were deleted with the Pentagon?
	I'm going to say, nah, nah, nah, goodbye, Liz Cheney.
	Are you celebrating, Matt Gaetz?
	I believe I was the first Republican to travel to Wyoming and to lay out the case against Liz Cheney from a policy standpoint, a political standpoint.
	At one point, I had the record for the largest political rally in Wyoming history that did not include a rodeo element.
	Of course, President Trump shattered that when he went to Casper, Wyoming, as rightfully he should.
	Hang on, hang on.
	You didn't get on a rodeo?
	You didn't ride rodeo, Matt?
	I'm disappointed!
	I am a Florida man.
	Anything you cannot get on in flip-flops, I would be very hesitant to engage upon.
	You know, a surfboard, a wakeboard, that I can do, a john boat, a paddleboard, but no interest in the rodeo activity for this Florida man.
	What I will say is that This is a verdict of sorts.
	This is the ultimate verdict on the January 6th committee.
	Now, Seb, they told us that the January 6th committee was going to blow the top off the Capitol building.
	Remember when Jamie Raskin told us that?
	Instead, all it did was blow the tires out of Liz Cheney's political career.
	They told us this would be this great shift in all of the political tectonic plates in our country, that everyone would abandon President Trump.
	The reality is that the January 6th deprivation of the facts, the misuse of process, The unwillingness to have both sides present and questioning those who came before the committee.
	It ended up calcifying and solidifying support for President Trump.
	Support that he draws upon now as he faces, I think, some of the most unfair process that any person has faced upon their departure from the White House.
	Yeah.
	So now we have this verdict.
	And I think it's, you know, Democrats made a big deal over this vote in Kansas being this dispositive verdict on The Dobbs decision, I would suggest some of those thinkers might want to look at how, not just the defeat of Liz Cheney.
	I mean, Seb, I think the defeat of Liz Cheney was really sealed when she voted for an unjust impeachment, but the margin of victory is kind of the day-two story here.
	This was a blowout, and that shows where I think the energy is in our politics, and it's sort of laughable to see her believe that she can spin this loss into some greater political aspiration.
	Wow, you just read my mind.
	So my next question is going to be how they, how she and they spin it.
	But let's just stay here for a second.
	I want to be realistic.
	I don't want to get carried away with myself.
	But we have, or we had, we have, we had, this whole class of political actor, and that is the Republican in name only.
	The people like the Lincoln Project, who garnered hundreds of millions of dollars to trash America First, make fun of working-class Americans, undermine the America First mission.
	I mean, this is a crushing defeat for one of the political legacies in America.
	But do we need to be cautious not to draw too big a conclusion?
	Because, you know, we're celebrating the death of the rhino species in DC, but they're not going to go away that quietly, are they?
	Well, we have seen a number of victories that together show us where the real enthusiasm is in the political right.
	You know, if Liz Cheney was the only person who voted for impeachment to be rejected by voters, we might view that as just Liz Cheney's complete betrayal of Wyoming, her unwillingness to ever talk about Wyoming.
	You could point to those things, but, you know, you see Joe Kent defeat Jamie Herrera-Butler.
	You see Adam Kinzinger quite literally, you know, just avoid the judgment of his voters by not seeking re-election.
	You see someone like Fred Upton certain to face defeat against a candidate that was more pro-Trump choosing to forego re-election.
	And so I think there's a pattern here that shows how narrow any path is or any constituency is for the reconstitution of the establishment.
	But there is one exception.
	The sole geography that is the protectorate for the establishment is the Washington, D.C., swamp.
	And the American people deserve to know that in the swamp of Washington, D.C., there is a strong effort underway, even if Republicans take the majority, to hand the agenda back over to the lobby corps, to do trade deals that sell out our workers, to start new wars with people where America's to do trade deals that sell out our workers, to start new wars with people where America's interests are not clear, and to allow illegal immigration to persist without sealing the border and deporting the people in
	Remember, Seb, it wasn't just Democrats who gave us gun control in this last Congress.
	You had John Cornyn and other Republicans joining with Democrats to pass red flag laws.
	You had Republicans joining with Democrats for Biden to get his first big spending bill.
	And so, you know, those Republicans are not faring well out on the campaign trail.
	But make no mistake, there is certainly a strong effort to try to protect those folks, not for the benefit of the American people, but for the benefit of the influence peddlers in Washington, D.C., who don't want to see their power drained by our exceedingly ascendant movement.
	Well, let's talk about those interest groups for a second that really straddle both left and right, that embrace the Democrats and the rhino establishment.
	but it's not a good thing.
	Because we can be excited about the President's 120 for 9 endorsement rate and the victories yesterday, but with the passing of this gargantuan Inflation Increasing Act, Aren't these people just buying power forever?
	I mean, the billions and billions of dollars that Biden signed into force yesterday, we've seen the reportage already.
	This is being handed out to their buddies.
	So does it matter that we have these great victories across America if they're simply buying the power with these acts that is sending the money back to the DNC and back to the RINOs?
	How dangerous is the IRA?
	So it's very difficult to get government to shrink, and it's very easy to get government to grow.
	That's a trend that we've seen no matter which party is in power.
	My friend Rand Paul likes to say, when the Democrats are in power, the Republicans are the conservative party, and when the Republicans are in power, there is no conservative party.
	Here is the operative question.
	Will we use the power of the purse to starve these agencies that have been weaponized against our people?
	of resources.
	And that's ultimately what it's going to take.
	If we have a Department of Education that is going to push critical race theory, then we ought to defund the Department of Education.
	If we have an IRS that is weaponizing, we ought to take authorities away from the IRS.
	If we have a Department of Justice that is unlawfully spying on people, violating their own procedures in doing so, then we should strip those authorities and abolish the institutions that are most tainted by this very, I think, destructive politics.
	And it's hard to even find an agency in Washington anymore that is not trying to expand its power by doing special benefits for its friends and by seeking out its enemies and trying to do harm to them.
	And there is certainly a political back channel financially that makes its way back into the coffers of the Democrat Congressional Campaign Committee and into the campaign accounts of a lot of the Democrats who currently hold gavels.
	But they will be handing those gavels over.
	And what I've promised the American people is that our Judiciary Committee will go on a rampage to vindicate the freedoms and the rights of our fellow Americans that have been so severely abridged during the Biden administration.
	And that is work that is going to require really an evaluation of government at all levels.
	Well, we are ready for that rampage.
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	Matt, big questions out there.
	First things first, I want to talk about the latest item.
	We released it just two hours ago here on America First because that's how responsive my team is.
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	So I want to be kind.
	I want to be charitable.
	She is fired.
	The people of Wyoming have fired her.
	But she needs a new job.
	She has quoted Lincoln.
	She compared herself to Lincoln yesterday.
	So she wants to run for the presidency.
	What is that campaign going to look like?
	Can you help me out here, Matt?
	I'm curious.
	We have so much to break down on the pending Liz Cheney for President campaign, but I have a message to Liz Cheney.
	Just because you collude with the Lincoln Project doesn't make you Abraham Lincoln.
	The notion that she is having to surrender a crushing defeat and is then teasing a presidential contest just shows, like, peak Cheney.
	No exit strategy.
	No self-awareness.
	Just, I think, a Probably, I think, a narcissism that is guiding the decision-making more than a review of what this lane actually is.
	Is the communication strategy for a Liz Cheney presidential campaign to have an angry Dick Cheney growling into the camera about how the greatest threat to the world is Donald Trump?
	I'm old enough to remember when he was saying the same things about Saddam.
	Is the lane they're going to run in one that they're going to have to share with Adam Kinzinger and Larry Hogan and the governor of New Hampshire, Sununu, all these people that think that there's this mass calling?
	But I do think that Liz Cheney has satisfied her key constituency.
	And that is Washington, D.C.
	media bookers.
	I think Liz will have no problem sort of being on the airwaves, but when you actually get outside of the swamp of Washington, D.C.
	and you talk to the real Americans who are watching and listening to us right now, there's not this great thirst for like a warmongering rhino who abandons the very principles that the American people are relying upon to build the country and ensure that we're safe and successful and prosperous.
	One of the big media lies about Liz is that she was so supportive of the Trump agenda, up until the point where she just had to vote to impeach.
	Liz was always trying to backstab President Trump on the Armed Services Committee.
	She was always trying to undermine him as the conference chair.
	And so I wouldn't be surprised if she ran for president, but it's going to be like a Michael Bloomberg style campaign where there'll be just an enormous amount of money spent, but I think very little progress or connection made with actual voters.
	Who would be the running mate, Seb?
	Who would be like the Liz Cheney running mate?
	Is it too easy?
	Who's that guy from the Lincoln Project?
	They're all fat and bald, but who's the most obnoxious one?
	Steve, what's his face?
	Let's have one of the pedo protectors from the Lincoln Project.
	They can be the veep.
	How about that?
	John Weaver!
	No, John Weaver, the actual pedo!
	John Weaver might be available.
	Who knows?
	I'm going to tweet that out.
	I'm tweeting that out.
	OK.
	But can I just go off a little tangent here?
	And this is not politics, but you're there.
	You're fighting.
	You're fighting for Florida.
	You're fighting for America every single day.
	And I'm just curious.
	You know, tough old, scary old Dr. G. The human, soft part of me is curious.
	What is it with these people?
	Do you understand?
	Because she is, she is the archetype, she is the platonic archetype of TDS.
	She is Trump derangement syndrome, patient zero.
	And I'm just trying to, have you divined in all your time in the swamp What is it?
	Is it a class thing?
	Do they hate the fact that he's from Queens?
	Or is it that he's not part of some recognized political dynasty like the Cheney's or the McCain's or the Clinton's?
	Have you got any answer that provides some hint of why they're just so, so insane, man?
	Well it's because Donald Trump and his allies present the greatest threat to a concentration of power within the Uniparty.
	And so that's not just the Republicans.
	There is a special club that includes the Cheneys and the McConnells and the Chuck Schumers and the Nancy Pelosi's.
	And it's not about right versus left to them.
	It's about ensuring that more of the decisions that govern people's lives are made in Washington, D.C., because if they centralize power in that geography, they will be able to personally benefit, their families will be able to financially benefit.
	The archetype model for the Cheneys and the Pelosi's is actually not all that different.
	It's the fusing of government power with personal grift and personal profit.
	I mean, Liz Cheney's net worth went up Enormously during her time in Congress.
	One has to sort of look at that and I think ask some fair questions.
	And Liz also, I think, has been part of a Cheney family dynasty that has built out a lot of friendships and relationships at the Department of Defense, at the Department of State, in the White House staff, at the NSA.
	And when Donald Trump showed up and he said, no, no, we're not going to just look at things the way we always have.
	We're not going to listen to the same old voices.
	I'm going to bring in different kind of people.
	I'm going to have a different approach.
	I'm going to evaluate some of these foreign policy matters like a real estate transaction.
	And I'm going to look at varying interests that are involved in a deal.
	And I'm going to know when it's right to walk away from a deal.
	See, the Washington elite, they never have a problem entering into a bad deal for America, as long as it's good for them.
	Trump didn't accept that.
	And that represented a Fundamental generational shift.
	And then they saw people like Ron DeSantis and Jim Jordan, myself, Devin Nunes, step forward and say, well, we're here for this.
	We want to sign up for this disruptive positivity to bring better decisions into our government.
	And that is the greatest possible threat to someone like a Liz Cheney or a Nancy Pelosi.
	And for the same reasons.
	No, I think you're absolutely right.
	It's all about power.
	It's about what Steve Bannon calls the uniparty.
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	Matt Gaetz, Congressman Gaetz, you said on my show almost a year ago, when we win the midterms, we're going to turn every single committee into an investigative one.
	We're going to subpoena the crap out of the swamp.
	I can't wait to see it.
	I want more than that.
	I want charges.
	I want prosecution of people like DHS Secretary Mayorkas and others.
	Here's the big question for you.
	Here's the tough.
	Here's the impolite question in politics.
	We can have a hundred new MAGA candidates win and come to the swamp, but the leadership is still the leadership.
	And I don't think Kevin McCarthy's a bad guy.
	I just think he's not exactly a fully Trumpian MAGA leaning in tough guy.
	Mitch McConnell, as far as I'm concerned, is swamped.
	Can you, can the good guys, you, Jim, Louis, everybody else, MTG, can you have enough of an influence on the leadership to actually act like a real opposition party?
	Well, probably not with Louie, because he ran for Attorney General.
	I know, I know.
	Louie, what are you doing, Louie?
	I'm going to miss him.
	He was the Jiminy Cricket of the Republican conference.
	I don't think you should talk so bad about one of your listeners, Kevin McCarthy.
	Obviously, he has been following very closely our America first strategy sessions because it was on your platform that Marjorie Taylor Greene and I first announced that the number one objective of a Republican Congress must be to convert every committee into a militant oversight committee.
	Fair, rigorous, constitutional, but diligent in exposing the corruption of this administration and then connecting that corruption to the decision that is causing people to live diminished lives under this diminishing precedent.
	And after we said that, with you on this platform, Kevin McCarthy started sounding just like us.
	He's gone all over the country now embracing what we developed on the America First Strategy Session And saying we're going to do it.
	Now, politicians say things all the time.
	Can we trust them?
	And I think that's where winning these primaries with people like Joe Kent in the state of Washington, Anthony Sabatini in the state of Florida, Harriet Hageman in Wyoming, we are actually building out a team that will be able to be that rudder in the water to keep the Republican conference focused on those objectives.
	Because I want to be very clear and very honest with your viewers and listeners.
	There are a lot of Republicans, maybe even a majority of the Republicans in Congress, who believe that the number one operation should be getting in the good graces of the lobby corps.
	A lot of these lobbyists stopped donating to Republicans after January 6th.
	And a lot of my colleagues think, well, if we're back in power, if we have the chairmanships, they'll have to be nice to us.
	They'll have to come back to our fundraisers and we can get back into this very swampy, symbiotic relationship with people who sell influence for money.
	Now, I think that the American people are so embattled by this Biden government.
	I see the way how people are reacting to the way President Trump is being treated, the way Steve Bannon has been treated.
	And I think people are not going to sit around and just watch us rename post offices and pass Mother's Day resolutions.
	I think there's actually going to be a fervent demand on the behalf of the base to deliver results in these investigations.
	I'm not just gonna start January 2023, I'm starting now.
	Jim Jordan and I are working 14 FBI whistleblower cases where folks have come forward, sometimes in the HR space, sometimes in the national security space, sometimes in the criminal space, but they all have kind of the same principle allegation.
	And that is that politics is driving decisions at the United States Department of Justice and at the FBI.
	Politics accelerates what they're willing to do to harm Trump.
	And it also increases the likelihood of degrading any negative information on Hunter Biden.
	And oh, my gosh, I've been living in this laptop.
	I've been going through this laptop.
	Seb, when I get the subpoena power, when I can match the travel records to the business transactions and the cash moving and the business expectancies, we are going to be able to paint such a clear picture for the American people.
	You might get what your mug was asking for.
	Biden might just quit to avoid the embarrassment.
	But actually, America might be even worse off because I'm starting to believe Kamala Harris might be more embarrassing than Joe Biden.
	Yeah, we can talk about that, but first I'm trying to get this image out of my head of living inside Hunter Biden's laptop.
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	Matt, I don't think I've had you On the show since the raid, so I've been doing double duty here on Newsmax, on everybody else's podcast, on The War Room, lots of stuff for international media.
	The Brits can't believe what's going on.
	Your unvarnished first response to not only the raid itself, but in the last nine days, how the narrative Well, it sort of feels like a movie I've already seen before.
	then it's nukes, then it's Espionage Act.
	Is this going to collapse eventually, or is this just the shape of things to come?
	It sort of feels like a movie I've already seen before.
	I mean, if the Department of Justice and the National Security State are using improper process to try to accuse Donald Trump of being a spy for a foreign country, it's not even the first time they've done it.
	And And now that people are calling for a release of the affidavit that they presented to get the raid going, and they're resisting that call for transparency, I think it raises even more questions.
	Remember, it was when we got the FISA warrant Where they were using Carter Page to try to get close to the Trump campaign in 2015, that we saw that the FBI was leaking information and then using the news stories that they created through their leaks to justify authorities that they would never have been given otherwise to spy on someone they believe to be close to a presidential campaign.
	That is the practice that we have seen before.
	It does not build any confidence.
	And like, we're now living in a world where grandmothers are being beat up in broad daylight, people are being carjacked in our city centers, and political opponents are having their homes raided.
	It feels like life in one of the poorest third world countries on earth, not in the United States of America.
	Now, we did see Republican leaders respond very differently to this.
	Almost no response, a very tepid response from Mitch McConnell.
	Tim Scott saying we should just let this play out.
	I remember the Republicans that talked to like Senator Tim Scott back during the Mueller probe.
	History didn't really vindicate their perspective as much as it did mine and Jim Jordan's.
	And then, you know, I think you had a far stronger response from Kevin McCarthy.
	I think you've got to give him credit when he reacts the way we would want him to.
	He said that Merrick Garland ought to prepare to present every feature of this decision before the House Judiciary Committee, preserve records so that we can scrutinize where people exceeded their authorities and violated a norm that's never been violated.
	I mean, we're watching things that have never happened before.
	And for all the criticism the left gave Trump about, you know, attacking our institutions, like the institution of the presidency itself has been attacked repeatedly before Trump became president with the dossier and the Russia hoax, while he was president with the phony Ukraine impeachment, and now even after he has left office home at Mar-a-Lago.
	So, where does it go from here?
	You're a lawyer by training, is that correct, Matt?
	I am.
	So, before the raid, I said they're going to forward criminal indictments from the January 6th show trial against President Trump to the DOJ.
	Now I'm doubly convinced that that's happening, some kind of spurious obstruction of an official proceedings or sedition or some garbage like that.
	What happens before A presidential election?
	If the Democrats go there, how do we deal with that?
	You're a legal professional.
	You're representing Americans.
	What happens now?
	It's unprecedented.
	There is no model for this, for what happens when they use lawfare to try to accomplish their political objectives.
	But this is part of a pattern.
	Remember, Democrats used lawfare, some obscure law, to try to bar Marjorie Taylor Greene from the ballot.
	They used lawfare in Pennsylvania and in Georgia to try to get universal mail-in voting in 2020.
	to just dramatically change the rules of that election before it occurred because Donald Trump was so good at politics, they couldn't beat him under the existing rules.
	And so where they can't win at the ballot box, they're trying to win in the witness box.
	And they are using these exquisite national security authorities that we intended to go after terrorists against political opposition here in our country.
	It's hurting us internationally.
	So I don't know what the plan or path is for any grand jury or for the Department of Justice.
	But what I do know is that winter is coming.
	There is a midterm election coming.
	And when we are in power and when we hold those gavels, We are going to break apart every element of this decision.
	There will be nowhere for people to hide if they are using improper criminal process to achieve what they otherwise couldn't politically.
	They tried with the January 6th committee to derail Trump's return to politics.
	They've now seen that failed.
	They tried legislatively with these spending bills.
	They see they're totally unpopular and not helping any Democrats, including President Biden.
	And so now they're trying to use the most extreme tools the government has, criminal process, Because their arguments are unpersuasive.
	It's a very dangerous time in this country.
	But we have two elections before President Trump can come back into the White House.
	Are you satisfied?
	I mean, Florida, you know, they get their final votes counted within an hour of the polling stations closing.
	But are you satisfied that the GOP has done the job it needs to do to secure elections for this year and 23?
	In some places, it's a mixed bag.
	In Florida, we've actually strengthened our specialized law enforcement units that will go after election crimes and catch fraud as it's happening, rather than trying to reconstruct a fraud scenario after the fact, which is almost impossible.
	And then, you know, you see in Georgia, what I think is a real backslide, reelecting Brad Raffensperger as the Republican nominee, sending Brian Kemp back into a general election.
	I don't think that inspires a lot of voters, so I think that in some states we see it getting better, in some states we could be seeing some of the bad practices ingrained into their laws.
	What I do know is that I don't want a national election law.
	As much as I love Florida's system, I don't want to give Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer the ability to dictate to my voters how they can vote, and that's why we've got to fight these things out state by state.
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