This is why no head of state in the world treats him with any respect.
This is why the Chinese Communist Party treats him with no respect.
This is why the Saudis embarrass him and humiliate him when he's over him with a fist bump.
You don't do that to a legitimate president of the United States.
We have a constitutional crisis in this nation right now, and they're charging me with a crime.
Have the guts and the courage, the guts and the courage to show up here and say exactly why it's a crime.
Benny Thompson is a total, absolute disgrace.
That is my former colleague, my former boss from the White House, standing outside the court reading the riot act to the illegitimate man who bears the title President of the United States, of course, Steve Bannon.
He has locked in.
He will be with us for a whole hour tomorrow here on America First.
I'll be on his show as well this week, so you don't want to miss that episode of The War Room.
But we're going to talk to somebody else who's run afoul of the deep state, also a former colleague of mine from the White House.
He's a former assistant to President Trump, former director of the White House National Trade Council.
Peter Navarro, welcome to the Salem News Channel.
Hey Zeb, you gotta have a little bit of sense of humor with all of this.
Behind me, Besides the former Trump Hotel, this is the Department of Justice here, Seb.
And the funny thing about it is that I took that picture myself from my apartment, like literally across the street.
And right over here is like the FBI, right?
And so on June 3rd, the FBI decided rather than walk across the street, And arrest me, or just better yet, like they should do, call me up for a voluntary surrender.
They let me get all the way to Reagan Airport, and I spent part of the rest of that day in leg irons in solitary confinement.
And, you know, this is the two-tiered system of justice we now live in.
But it's good to be with you.
And the thing I want to really talk about today is what you were kind enough to talk about yesterday, which is this I call it the stink tag, the AmeriCorps' policies.
I like that, I like that.
So let's talk.
So first things first, if people want to support this man who is being targeted for his conservative beliefs, please go right now and buy Taking Back Trump's America.
It is by Peter Navarro.
Why we lost the White House and how we'll win it back.
That is the easiest way that you can support this man.
But yesterday, President Trump, our former boss, spoke at something that is meant to be, quote-unquote, his think tank, and you wrote a scathing piece at American Greatness.
We love American Greatness.
Chris Buskirk, the founder, will be with us next.
And I'm just going to read the opening, and I want you to explain why you wrote it.
Powerful piece, and I agree with it.
Don't go, boss!
That's my strong advice to President Trump as he prepares to deliver a speech in Washington at his alleged think tank, the America First Policy Institute.
Yes, it's important for President Trump to have a well-credentialed stable of policy experts capable of both building a 2024 platform and finding solid MAGA talent to populate a new Trump administration.
But the AFPI Trojan horse, whose leadership is now bragging about how it will staff Trump's shadow cabinet, is decidedly not that.
Peter, Trump, the Trump think tank you describe as a Trojan horse, that's powerful language.
Explain.
Yeah, well, I like Stink Tank better now, but both of them fit.
And I'm glad you showed the Taking Back Trump's America book, Sal.
I never thought it would also wind up being my legal defense fund.
What it really is, is a battle cry and blueprint To not just take back the White House in 2024 for Donald Trump, but also take that House of Representatives away from Pelosi so she can quit weaponizing illegally the investigatory powers.
And there's a connection between the Taking Back Trump's America book and this article.
You and I served in the White House, Seb, and I think we share the deep, deep concern that there were just too many Bad personnel in the White House.
And in the Taking Back Trump's America book, I have this mantra that says, it's kind of like a takeoff on the Reagan thing.
It's bad personnel not only equals bad policy, but also bad politics.
And it was people like many of whom now occupy the AFPI who helped make that election effectively close enough to steal.
And so I've been I've been holding my tongue about this American First Policy Institute, but it keeps getting worse and they keep going off the rails.
And so in the article in American Greatness, and I thank them for publishing that article, I just go chapter and verse behind the agenda that really is there.
It's a Trumpism without Trump agenda.
What they're trying to do is cherry-pick all of the politically attractive aspects of the Trump agenda, take Trump's money to fund their institute, use his good name, and then shove him or gently push him out of the way.
And meanwhile, they're fitting the drapes for positions in the new White House.
I mean, the head of the AFPI has already crowned herself chief of staff in the new administration.
It's like, I served with Brooke Ross.
She's a nice enough person, but she's two things friggin incompetent and she's not MAGA.
Okay.
And she just, in the months leading up to the 2020 election, after she got appointed to be the domestic policy council director, which is a high position in the White House, She just constantly threw sand in the gears of the president trying to get stuff out there that really would have helped him win votes in the ballot box.
So what are these people, Peter?
Are these rhinos or are these people with no ideology who just want money and power using the Trump name?
Yes.
No, it's a mixture, okay?
Let me just run through some of them.
Yeah.
I think the most dangerous snake is Bobby Jindal, the former governor of Louisiana.
He's one of the chairs of one of their centers.
He's been pushing a Trump without Trumpism agenda since 2017, Seb, and they let that S.O.
be in there.
Then you got Mark Lotter.
I left him alone in the article because I thought he kind of got a raw deal when he was in the administration from some of the same people who gave you a raw deal.
But boy, he came out after I published that article.
He went right after me with a falsehood, number one.
And then he goes after Trump on CNN in front of ACOSTA.
And the thing you have to know about Lotter is, like, he's a pure Mike Pence guy.
So think about this, Seb.
The head of media communications at the think tank that's supposed to be Trump's is a Mike Pence guy.
I mean, you can't make that up.
Rollins is simply incompetent.
She doesn't have in her DNA MAGA.
There's another guy, really got a bone to pick with, this guy named Casey Mulligan.
You'll never hear of him again, probably, besides a name.
But he was on the Council of Economic Advisers.
And he's just a pure anti-Trump trade policy guy.
He hated our tariffs.
He hated our trade policy.
And these minions, Sabin, you know, these minions with no names behind the scenes have power, and they deter, derail, destroy.
A presidential agenda.
Bad policy.
Bad personnel is bad policy.
I could go on and on.
No, no, you can.
We've got 60 seconds left.
Most important question.
I'm going to repost the article now on Twitter.
The book, Support Peter, it's taking back Trump's America.
60 seconds.
Is there an organization out there that is MAGA or is America First?
Or do we have to create one?
Because the clock is ticking, Peter.
I told the boss in this article Put Liz Harrington or Johnny McEntee in charge of that.
Give them the power to hire and fire and clean that frigger out.
I mean, you can use the place, but you got to get rid of all the RINOs, Never Trumpers, and those Trumpism without Trump people.
It's a bad thing, Seb.
This is bad and the bus needs to move.
Yep.
something about it i had a bad bad feeling about it when i saw it all these people i'd never heard of all these people who didn't stand out for maga find out more we're going to challenge mark lotter because he's been on the show a lot we'll ask him about his comments about you but in the meantime taking and the boss oh and the boss taking back trump's america how we lost the white house and and how well went it back.
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Stay on this channel.
All right, thanks, Peter.
Good job.
Alright Sammy, you carry on brother.
All right.
Bye.
All right.
All right.
Mics.
Geoff, you want to kill the mics real quick?
Thank you.
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we got you.
Okay, good.
So, we'll be in just a couple seconds.
How's it going, Chris?
Pretty good, how you doing?
Doing alright, doing alright.
Thanks for asking.
So, Blake's looking good.
Oh, yeah.
Pretty much the last round of big primaries on Tuesday, I think.
Hey, how are you?
Good.
Just had Navarro on the show discussing his article that I read from yesterday.
God bless you for publishing that because I could tell that organization stank.
Yeah, I've got to tell you, it was viewed a gazillion times, but I got a lot of emails and texts from people about that article.
That really, I mean, that obviously hit a nerve positively with a bunch of people, I'm sure negatively with some too.
Alright, let's talk about that No Name No Pack Drill, 30 seconds.
Come in, um, no, I'm gonna tee up Cut 2, guys, for Chris.
Cut 2?
And then, um... Oh, the... the Pongino?
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Just a few days ago the president was on my buddy Dan Bongino's show where he had this to say.
I'm so glad he said this because this is my bugbear.
Cut to, play cut.
Most important thing is personnel because without the right personnel and what people don't talk about and don't really understand, but maybe they do.
I had great people, but I also had some bad ones.
You know, you take recommendations.
People that in some cases were rhinos and rhinos that you didn't know were rhinos.
Uh, or people that I wouldn't have agreed politically with certain things, but were taking recommendations from people that I knew in Washington, and that maybe I respected, but maybe in the end didn't.
And you'd put some of those people in, and they didn't do the job.
Quote, the most important thing is personnel.
Let's talk to the man who had the stones to publish that article.
It's from the superb website, American Greatness.
Full disclosure, it's been a while.
I have to get my laptop out, but I do publish there as well.
Chris Buskirk, welcome back to America First.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Well, first things first, thank you for publishing Navarro's article, which was blistering.
I read most of it out on air yesterday.
Trump's think tank prepares to betray him.
This is about the America First Policy Institute.
We just had Peter on literally minutes ago.
Two things.
Why did you run that piece, and what has the response been since it ran, Chris?
Why do we run the piece?
Let me answer that question first.
Well, actually, let me answer the second one first.
So the response has been voluminous.
Let me say that.
It is the most widely read and shared piece that we've published for quite some time.
And I was just telling you in the break, I got a bunch of phone calls, email texts yesterday from people about that, and sort of across the spectrum, too.
And that kind of segues into the why did we run it?
And that is, Really, for the same reason that we started American Greatness six years ago, which is at the time, in the summer of 2016, and you know the story, we were not sure if President Trump would win the election.
Now, we wanted him to.
But obviously couldn't see the future.
We felt good about it.
But what was really important was the America First agenda that he was articulating in a way that nobody had for a very, very long time.
And so when Peter Navarro wrote this piece, wanting to defend that agenda and articulate what he saw as a threat to that agenda, we thought it was important that that get out there.
Peter Navarro, obviously a supporter of the president and Somebody who worked for him and somebody who looks at the America First agenda as really important to maintaining American prosperity.
And so we thought it was important to publish that piece.
And if people disagree with it, they're free to.
And by the way, they're free to say why they think he's wrong.
But he has planted a flag there that I think is really important for the future of the America First movement and what we think is important in politics.
Give us a sense of the nature of the responses.
Most positive, more negative.
What kind of things did they say about Peter's accusations?
Which, by the way, let me be clear, I have issues with this organization because it's filled with people who didn't support us in the White House or who said things that were actually undermining the vision of America First.
So the idea that this is the President's think tank, it doesn't wash with me, Chris.
Yeah, I guess I would put the people who contacted me I guess I would put into two different camps or one is just sort of your lay reader, you know, the, the person who reads American Greatness on a regular basis and they reached out and those people are, it's interesting that the tone and tenor of the responses I got was, Was that of people who are extremely defensive, or maybe I should say protective, of the Trump legacy and of an America First future.
And so they don't have any special knowledge, like inside knowledge, of what personnel matters.
But what they were clearly very, very passionate about is wanting to make sure that in whether it be a future Trump administration or any type of Republican administration going forward, that it's not just a return to the status quo ante of 2015 and before, that it's not just a return to the status quo ante of 2015 and before, and that there are efforts made to, you know, in a famous phrase, drain the swamp, even on the Republican side and get really good, smart, accomplished people who agree with the America First agenda and put them
accomplished people who agree with the America First agenda and put them into positions of political power in any future administration.
And then I guess I would say the other group of people who reached out was people who did have personal experience in the Trump administration, who have a lot of affection for President Trump and have a lot of support for the agenda that he implemented in part and wants to who have a lot of affection for President Trump and have a lot of support for And those are people who said, yeah, some of them were sort of war stories.
Yeah, I saw X, Y, and Z, and I don't want to see that happen again, and we need to do better on personnel.
And that really is, everybody I think who pays close attention and did pay close attention to the first Trump administration realizes that that that personnel is unbelievably important, as the old sort of Reaganite saying, you know, personnel is policy.
Right.
And Trump was such a disruptor that he came in without a big group of loyalists and without a big cadre of people that he could staff the administration with.
And I know that there are people who were loyal to him who are working on it in the in the presidential personnel office in 2020 and would be, you know, great to go in and continue the work they were doing there at the end of the administration in the future administration.
The website is amgreatness, americangreatness, amgreatness.com.
You can follow him at thechrisbuzzkirk on Twitter.
We've got 90 seconds in this segment.
We'll hold you over.
But we've been discussing this for years, Chris.
Are we doing enough to build the bench of the MAGA team?
The answer, the short answer is no.
But I say that, you know, if we were doing like, I don't know, I think we're doing actually pretty well, but the answer is basically always going to be no, because we need a bigger, better bench at all times.
You know, I guess I think about it this way, and I look at some of the candidates that we have out there right now, J.D.
Vance, who's been a frequent guest here, and Blake Masters, who's been a guest, and some of the other ones that are out there, and I think about it this way.
I say, you know, there's a lot of work yet to be done, but there's a lot of work that already has been done, and they are examples of this, because these are people who would not have gotten as far in politics, maybe would not have even wanted to run for office five years ago.
And it's a result of the swelling of the America vs. Movement that these guys were very accomplished, very smart in their personal, private business lives that they have left those career tracks to go and run for high office for the U.S.
Senate.
And I think, yeah, we're doing pretty well, but we just need to do more.
I mean, think about how many positions need to be filled in any administration, and you need a lot of people.
The article is Trump's, quote, think tank prepares to betray him.
One of the most popular articles at American Greatness, amgreatness.com by my former White House colleague, Peter Navarro.
We're talking to the man who published it, Chris Buskirk.
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It says on his bio, I still need to find out what that means, that he is an American naturalist.
He'll explain that to me later.
But Chris, help me out.
I want your assistance.
I have a lot of Republicans coming to me right now that we need to save the country, but it can't be President Trump.
And they can never tell me why, but it's like, They say, it'll be chaos and it'll be civil war.
And I'm thinking, so what's your argument?
You want to lose the cultural war and the civil war?
You want another politician?
What's your argument for why he needs to finish the job he started?
Well, because it's a job he started and he is the appropriate guy to finish it.
And, you know, I hear these same things that you just said about the people saying, well, we can't do this again.
And there's a certain segment of people.
Let me start over.
The most interesting group of people who make the argument you just described isn't the people who dislike President Trump or are opposed to his policies.
They're the people who were supporters of his in 2016 and 2020 and do support his policies.
Those are the people I find most interesting.
And I really do wonder, for some of them, they're just exhausted.
And that actually makes me think of President Trump.
I mean, this is the guy who's been at the center of this firestorm for the past, I guess, it's seven years now.
And at 75 years old, he doesn't show any signs of Of giving up.
And I guess I would say to those people, you know, look at the president.
He's been right at the center of this stuff and continues to move forward.
He is sort of a force of nature.
And it's not time to lie down or to roll over because it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter who the Republican nominee is.
If it's somebody who could win, let's say it was somebody like a Ron DeSantis, somebody who could plausibly win a general election.
They'll vilify him too.
They'll come for his supporter too.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
This is massively important.
That one sentence is it, Chris.
If it's anyone who they think can win, they will try to destroy them through the Yeah, no, that's exactly right.
I mean, they're not going after Jeb Bush.
of alinsky you nailed it and isn't it isn't the reverse true chris that the man they wish to destroy the most january 6 committee and everything else is the person who's most likely to defeat them yeah no that's exactly right i mean they're not going after jeb bush why because jeb bush couldn't win you know they're not going after i don't know john casich Why?
Why?
Because John Kasich could not win.
They will go after Trump, and they do.
They don't like Ron DeSantis.
They attack him for everything he does in Florida because these people are people who can win.
They can win the presidency, they can win the governorship and re-election in a major state like that, and they can affect policy change.
Uh, with which they disagree.
They're just, you can't compromise with that.
You can't, uh, you know, you can't surrender your way into a truce.
That's just, that's just defeat by another name.
And so the, you know, and so what I think for people who maybe are, you know, I guess sort of understandably exhausted with some of the, uh, with the attacks on Trump that lead to all this political drama, you have to understand that's where this country is right now.
And the only way forward is through.
And so it's win or lose.
Quick question, we're out of time, Chris.
He is going to announce, should he announce before midterms or after?
because, you know, this country is worth fighting for.
Quick question.
We're out of time, Chris.
He is going to announce.
Should he announce before midterms or after?
What's your preference?
After.
After.
Okay.
Last thing I have to do is to thank you for continuing to publish that warrior princess, Julie Kelly.
I'm sorry, American Greatness is the only place that has the kind of January 6th coverage that she is writing.
Especially about those political prisoners.
So God bless you, Chris.
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They didn't send us a photograph of the billboard, right?
Uh, that a question for you, Geoff?
Let me look and see.
Alright, and then, can you find, Eric, the cut from Boot Edge Edge a few days ago where he said, uh, the pain?
Uh, hang on.
Yeah.
Um... Cut 3 from the 20th.
Let me see if I still have that in here somewhere.
Let me absolutely make sure I have this one right.
Zach, want to play this real quick for me, Guy?
Of course, the more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles.
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I didn't get anything of the billboard.
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Already betrayed President Trump.
Okay.
Bannon and or Buskirk?
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Um, what?
When should President Trump announce?
And then Bannon.
We are decertifying the 2020 elections.
Don't you think?
I like that.
Yeah, okay.
And like, uh, Chris mentioned, the, uh, we got one really big round of interesting primaries coming up on Tuesday.
Right.
Arizona, Michigan, Missouri, so Gritens, who's not looking great, by the way, in the latest polling.
No?
Kansas, yeah, Schmidt's up ahead pretty decently over him.
Kansas, where Kobach is running for Attorney General, and then, uh, Washington State.
All right, Elaine's on.
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What is his job anyway?
What does Pete Bootedge do apart from go on?
I know, I'm just being rhetorical.
Thank you for that, Eric.
When he goes on paternity leave for months and months and the secretary of transportation had something to say about you and your Tesla car.
Play cut.
Of course, the more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles.
Yeah, because pain is good, you know, because the Tesla drivers are going to be happy.
Somebody has decided to respond to that cynical statement.
It is the Amazing Job Creators Network and we have with us their Chief Communications Officer Elaine Parker.
Welcome back to America First.
Hey Sebastian, thanks for having me.
So what have you guys done on Times Square related to Mayor Pete?
His comments, and you played part of them, are just incredibly detached from the reality that most Americans are facing.
Remember, this is a guy who makes a government salary of over $220,000 a year and over a million dollars from his book deals and speaking engagements, you know, things that all of us, you know, have no access to actually enjoy.
And, you know, what he's basically saying is, we called it his Marie Antoinette moment, where he said, let them drive electric cars.
I love it.
Like, let them eat cake.
So we put that up on a billboard in Times Square with a picture of him wearing a crown and holding his scepter and saying, it says pain at the pump.
And then the ad continues and says, Elite Pete says, let them drive electric cars.
Oh, that's good.
I can tell that you're the chief communications officer, Elite Pete.
That is fabulous.
All right.
Let's stay on this insanity of their obsession with the weather.
Ignoring the fact that there's a large yellow fireball in the sky that has more effect on it than any human has ever had.
The president, the senile old man in the White House, has been playing with the idea of declaring a national climate emergency.
And you know, Elaine, that their response is going to be big government.
What is your response from the Job Creators Network?
Well, look, it's the obvious response, Sebastian.
You know, the president is ignoring what the real emergency is that ordinary Americans are facing and small businesses are facing, and that's skyrocketing gas prices and electric bills due to his administration's war on traditional energy.
You know, if Biden tries to implement new rules on energy production in the name of climate change emergency, it's only going to exacerbate the financial pain that we're all feeling as a result of these radical green policies that he continues to try to push forward on the American people.
And so this is going to be, this is overreach at its best.
I mean, the epitome, the king of overreach Would be him doing this under executive order.
Yeah, it would be, but you know it's something that they will try and do even before the midterms.
You are pushing back.
You have the rockthewoke.com initiative pushing back on the woke politics of big corporations like Disney and American Express.
I want all of our listeners To check out your organization's rockthewoke.com website.
But let's break down a specific story about last year's All-Star Game.
What has JCN, the Job Creators Network, been doing to fight wokeness in the MLB?
Yeah, I mean, Job Creators Network, if you remember, really stepped out on all this woke stuff last year when the Major League Baseball succumbed to all of the woke pressure and the lies about the Georgia voting law that was passed shortly after the election.
And they pulled the game out of Georgia and took it to Denver, Colorado, claiming that this voting law was discriminatory and would suppress votes, when in fact, It did nothing of the kind, but they chose to punish the small businesses of Atlanta and cost the city, the state, $100 million.
And in fact, the recent primary election shows exactly how wrong, we'll say they were wrong, but between you and me and the fence posts, they were lying.
Because the truth about this law is that it made it easy to vote and hard to cheat.
And here's the real statistics.
The Secretary of State's office reported that more than 710,000 people had cast ballots in Georgia in the last day of the three-week early voting period.
It's for 180% increase over the same point in the 2018 primary election and 149% increase over the same point in the 2020 primary election.
I don't think there was any voter suppression in that law at all.
So, you know, we believe that the small businesses of Atlanta deserve a big apology from people like the head of the MLB, Stacey Abrams, and even the President of the United States.
And lastly, we've got just a minute left.
What is the Great Opportunity Project, Elaine?
The Great Opportunity Project is a national campaign to highlight the successes of these conservative states that are run by conservative governors that have been able to balance the health and safety of their economies with the health and safety of their
residents and you can fit in the results of as these states have come out of the pandemic who's got healthy economies as long versus who doesn't have healthy economies and you can see that the blue states are hurting financially and the red states are booming look at Texas look at Arizona look at Florida look at Georgia I could go on and on and on and they're all red it's the economic bifurcation of America
Free states and then big daddy state government states.
Find out more and join the fight.
It's the amazing people, the Drop Creators Network.
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I don't know.
I have the image now, by the way.
Good.
I'll mention it in the next segment with the calls.
Can you give me Trushin2 in preview, please, guy?
I want to see how it looks.
Yeah, let's have a look.
Take that.
I should probably shrink it a little bit.
Oh, that looks good.
That looks good.
All right, back to him.
Elite Pete!
That's a good one.
Elite Pete.
Vimeo for that one?
Yeah.
All right.
And, oh yeah, you gave me all the titles.
All righty.
Good stuff.
Wow, that's the first hour already done.
Quite a MAGA day today.
Yeah, that was a full MAGA.
Minus the last segment.
We have... I'm saying it's not done.
He says the hour's done.
Well, it's Phil from Philly, come on!
Everyone writes off the last segment.
You've hurt his feelings now, Eric.
It's still a segment.
The producer has hurt feelings.
Geoff's favorite segment, everybody.
Everyone writes it off, just because it's a short one.
Sometimes.
I legitimately forget this segment exists sometimes.
How much do I play of Cut 9?
I mean, it's 2 minutes long.
You can't play that.
Whatever.
The whole thing.
It's hilarious, but I can't play 2 minutes of it.
Yeah.
You play like 20 seconds and just say it keeps going.
Alright.
You can just say, the punchline is that it's 2 minutes long.
We'll get to them in the second hour, but I'm just reading this amazing piece from The Federalist.
We need to get some of those guys back.
This is Molly Hemingway and Tristan Justice.
They got hold of text messages from Cassidy Hutchinson before she flip-flopped on the president.
You know, the star witness of the January 6th witch trial.
Can I just read you one of them?
This is amazing, guys.
Cassidy Hutchinson, the... He lunged for the steering wheel witness!
This is what she texted to somebody two years ago.
I would rather shoot myself dead into the Potomac than see Marine One flying around Washington D.C.
without 45 again.
Hey Dr. G, it's great to talk to you again.
I've been so busy here in Philly.
elected cassidy cass oh my that is great we'll get to that all right let's go to your cause it's been far too long phil in philly hey dr g it's great to talk again been so busy here in philly but i just wanted to i came up with an idea to get that border closed and um if governor abbott would declare the rio grande a sanctuary for freshwater alligators and start stocking the pond - I like it, Phil.
I love it.
I like the way you think.
We've got to think of different ways to sort it out because if you didn't hear it, guys, Dan Bongine on his show today, he went nuclear.
He said this administration, it's a line I've used before, but this is Dan's, he said they are complicit in mass murder because they have the borders open and because of the fentanyl deaths in america and it was powerful stuff and i told him god bless you phil i like the idea al california welcome aboard hey sebastian listen uh... real quick uh... there has to be some way of getting a consortium of people that use guns to defend themselves Not in crime.
You mentioned Kyle Rittenhouse was trying to find that guy in Cincinnati.
If there are over a million people every year, you could put a consortium of people together that would take Gavin Newsom and these other people right off the screen, but there has to be some way of aggregating them.
Hang on, hang on.
What does that mean, off the screen?
What are you talking about?
Well, you would blot out the anti-gun message that the media is constantly putting out because They're only putting out the anti-gun stuff.
People that are victims of crime... Yeah, but it's not enough to have the people.
You've got to have the platforms for the message, right?
Right.
As long as the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about how more than a million instances of people's lives being saved by concealed carry permit holders.
Well, who's going to carry the message?
I like the idea.
Maybe we need some kind of surrogacy system like we had for President Trump.
Surrogates who talk about the Second Amendment, who've used their weapons to save lives.
I get that.
I love it.
We can't.
We're out of time.
Stay on the line.
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The second point is they were showing a thing last time on this bill they passed about not advertising guns to kids.
They have an award-winning girl that was practicing her shotgun, which we've been doing for a hundred years in California.
She can't go to the Olympics now because they can't practice Well, I wanted to bring that to your attention.
Maybe you can bring it up.
Listen, Sebastian, thanks for the great work.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I just lost him.
Hang on.
Now, I don't think these people realize what that piece of legislation was doing, but it showed this girl here, totally innocent, practicing her shotgun.
Now she will be able to go to the Olympics because under this ridiculous bill they passed in California, she can't practice.
Yeah, well, she better leave California.
Well, I wanted to bring that to your attention.
Maybe you can bring it up.
Listen, Sebastian, thanks for the great work.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
I just lost him.
Hang on.
Don't go anywhere.
Hang on.
Tell Al to stay on the line.
Stand by, Al.
He's just lost his entrance for a second.
He'll be coming to you in just a second.
Say that again, Al.
What did you want to say?
Thank me for?
No, I just wanted to thank you for the great work you do in everything, whether it's the border or the Second Amendment.
I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you God.
I do.
Please be seated.
When I was six, I wandered streets by myself.
You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
Someplace in my life, the road split off.
I had gone to the seminary.
I had gone to all-white schools.
I was never gonna be a part of that world.
I was never gonna be white.
The problem is, I could never go back completely to the world I came from.
We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
And then I asked God, if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
I want my candidacy to unify our country.
I was under constant attack.
You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
That's when all heck broke loose.
Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
We know exactly what's going on here.
This is the wrong black guy.
He has to be destroyed.
You really didn't matter.
What mattered was what they wanted.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my oath and did my best.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my father.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my father.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my father.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my father.
Can you find that Kamala pronoun thing from yesterday as well?
Uh, I think I have it.
Let me see.
Uh, from yesterday.
It was at the end, yesterday.
One of the last couple.
Uh, oh yeah, I have it.
You wanna come in with it?
No, no, no, but before I use, um, 12, I'm gonna use that.
Before you use 12?
use 12
okay you
Thank you.
Hey, Dr. G. I thought I knew what a real swamp was, but this here Washington, D.C., it's more putrid than the bayou at low tide in August.
And it's getting stinkier!
It's not a swamp, it's a cesspit at this point.
I didn't introduce myself in the last hour, so remiss of me.
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Do you remember there was that seminal video and audio cut that everybody's used a million times in my business of the then candidate Biden saying to a radio person.
I thought it was a podcast.
My apologies.
Allegedly, it's a radio personality saying, if you don't vote for me, you ain't black!
The host of that show is Charlemagne.
That's the name he goes by.
Jeff, who is this person that I'm supposed to know about?
He's popular in New York.
He's actually popular everywhere, but it's New York.
Okay, and what's his shtick?
What's his brand?
I think it's urban radio is the format.
What is urban radio?
No idea.
Oh, thank you!
Okay, that makes me feel much better.
If my producer can't define urban radio, he can define what a woman is and a man is, because he's not crazy.
But yeah, I think urban radio is the thing.
Well, anyway, this individual was invited on the Colbert Show, and I don't think it went the way that Colbert wanted it to go, because clearly Colbert's a massive propagandist for the Democrats, and Charlemagne, I don't think he's a Trumpster, and they got into a debate as to how things have been under Biden.
Cut 10.
Play cut.
Okay, so people are saying, many people out there are saying that President Biden shouldn't run again.
And I know you were a Bernie fan, weren't you?
Who did you like?
I like Bernie.
Bernie's cool.
I don't really like nobody.
I don't really like nobody.
You know, I think we...
We all just did the best we could, right?
I'm a big fan of the four agreements.
The last agreement in the four agreements is always do your best.
We all just did our best.
We did our civic duty and we went out there and we voted for the person that we thought, you know, could protect our rights.
Doesn't look like those rights are being protected all the way right now.
Well, that's why I don't like when people, you know, people always say, just vote, just vote, just vote.
I absolutely believe in voting.
I'm going to always vote.
But let's keep in mind, we voted for the people we thought that were going to protect us from, you know, the bad guys.
And it looks like right now the bad guys are winning.
And if you're letting the bad guys win to me, you're complicit.
You know, you're guilty by association.
Do you really think that they're doing all they can?
No, I don't think they're doing all they can.
Ooh, a little bit uncomfortable.
Sorry, it's Charlemagne Vagaud, spelled T-H-A.
And I have to ask, Mr. G, what do you think he means?
Because I'm a little confused.
We voted for Biden to protect us from the bad people, but he hasn't, and the bad people are getting worse.
Who are the bad people?
That would be the Republicans.
But how are they losing their rights?
What have Republicans done in the last year and a half to make Democrats less happy?
My guess would be the same thing they've only talked about the last three months.
It's the Roe decision.
Oh, the Roe decision.
So as a black man, the fact that we're trying to stand up for the unborn who are disproportionately being killed in the womb Of black mothers, that's a bad thing.
Okay, thank you for that, Mr. G. Yeah, it's insane, but I think you're probably right.
So let's run through these things, and I'm going to ask, if I forget anything, please, my team, Jeff, Eric, John, Guy, tell me if I'm forgetting anything, because I want to go through this.
If you are voting in just a couple of months' time, For the Democrats, what are you voting for?
Let's go down the list.
So, based upon the last 18 months, you are voting for what?
Inflation.
You are voting for gas prices that increase.
You are voting for an open border.
The smuggling in of fentanyl in record numbers.
You're voting for the woke-ification of the US military.
You're voting for a Russia that may continue to use force in Europe to aggrandize itself and invade other countries.
You're voting for a China that is increasingly militant.
You heard what they said today.
China has said Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House visiting Taiwan, would be a red line to them.
You're voting for more critical race theory in schools.
You're voting for more bigotry.
You're voting for more supply chain problems.
You're voting for less baby formula on the shelves.
I mean, I could probably go on for hours.
What am I missing?
Eric, am I missing anything from that list?
What is big that I'm missing if you vote for Democrats?
I think one other thing they're still going to try to talk about, maybe not so much anymore, but it's still on their list is, oh, the idea that, you know, we're taking their voting rights away by, you know, enforcing election integrity.
So they're going to try to claim that, like, oh, they're going to, you know, protect the right to vote, supposedly.
Right.
So you're, if you're voting for Democrats, you're voting for more Zuckerberg-funded drop boxes in Democrat districts, you're voting potentially for what they say they want to do, which is to Lower the voting age to 16.
Pack the Supreme Court.
The latest article is to have Associate Supreme Court Justices' terms be limited to 18 years.
Oh yes, get rid of the filibuster.
And for some, it's getting rid of the Electoral College.
Are we getting close to the end of the list?
Mr. G, am I missing something?
Anybody jump in?
Did you mention the vaccine mandates?
Because they'll come back at some point.
School lockdowns.
How could I be so stupid?
Of course.
Monkeypox is upon us.
You're not allowed to talk about who catches it, by the way.
No, no, no.
Don't talk about who catches monkeypox or that rave in Europe where it started.
No, no, no, no.
It's, you know, it's far too, far too useful in terms of vaccinations, shutdowns and masks.
For them not to use it as a pretext.
And I invite anyone, if you're a Democrat voter, if you think the 18 months we've just witnessed are good for this nation, please, do call in.
Argue your corner.
The number is 833-33 Gorka.
That's 833-334-6752.
If you think this is a parody, if you think nothing I have said reflects the reality of the last 18 months, if you think gas prices are great and Russia hasn't done anything bad and we don't need baby formula and critical race theory isn't being taught in our schools, make the case.
But make it with evidence.
Because this is my message.
Should somebody accidentally have alighted on this channel in their rental car or just accidentally as they're going down the dial, tell me, what have I missed out?
If you vote for the Democrats, what is it that I've missed out?
And perhaps lastly, let's have a little fun here.
Competence and incompetence.
You had a former businessman in the building who made things happen in the economy, in national security, in appointments of judges across the nation.
Now we have People who are less than competent.
This is actually from the GOP, the RNC, I do believe.
It is a compilation.
How long has Jean-Pierre, how long has Karine been in office, Jeff?
It's been what, a couple of months?
Maybe two months.
Okay, so not long.
And they have compiled I'm not going to play the whole thing.
It's so bloody long.
This is the hundred times that she, as the White House Press Secretary, said, I don't have anything for you.
I'm sorry.
This is cut nine.
Karine Jean-Pierre.
Play cut.
I don't have anything.
I just don't have anything.
I don't have anything.
I don't have anything.
I just don't have anything.
I don't have anything.
I don't have anything.
I just don't have anything.
I just don't have anything.
I don't have anything.
Again, I don't have anything.
That's funny.
There's another 50 to go there.
59.
She's been in office for 10 weeks.
There's another 50 to go there.
59.
She's been in office for 10 weeks.
10 weeks.
Really, that's what you're voting for.
you You're voting for ideologues and you're voting for incompetence.
Don't do it.
Come over to the side of rational pro-America competence.
Please, whatever you think of mean tweets, you don't need idiots and ideologues running this country.
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What happened to my Spotify bumper?
It was too close to the end of the segment.
I counted the outfit change.
It was seven different clothes that she had on there.
So, now we're at, like, what, 40-somethings?
That's only from seven different press conferences.
She said it that many times.
Ten weeks.
Ten weeks.
I can't believe Saki left 10 weeks ago.
Have they given you topics for the Spicer hit today?
Yes, let me pull it up.
Spicy!
You're using this studio, right?
Correct.
All right.
She sent email.
Let me find it.
It's a panel with Dave Rubin, and you will be talking about Hunter Biden, the Garland interview where he said he'd prosecute Trump.
And basically the contrast, like the hypocrisy between those two things.
Alrighty.
And it's, they say it's, it'll be between 5.10 and 5.15.
Good.
Alrighty.
Good, good, good.
Oh, he's phone, that's right, I gotta get a picture of him.
Give me a second here.
Okay, I think he's on the line. I think he's on the line.
Alright, so I'm gonna use cut 13.
Cut 13.
Today's cut 13.
Oh yeah.
Alright.
no he's gonna see it up time This is a B segment.
I might tee up five first.
Five.
I need Jeff to explain that to me and then I'll go to Dave.
All righty.
He's on the line now if you want to talk to him.
Yes.
Dean Bratt.
Hey, Zeb.
How you doing?
Good, good.
How's life?
Good.
Good.
I'm on a 12-hour car ride today from Chicago down.
It's a pleasure.
Down to where?
Virginia.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, say that again.
Alright, be safe.
In the future, what day is better for you?
What did you say?
Wednesday or Thursday?
Probably Thursday morning is good.
Well, whenever.
It has to be this time of day, but is it Wednesday or Thursday?
Yeah, Thursday.
Thursday.
Alright, Jeff.
All right, stand by 60 seconds, and we are live.
One minute, and you'll tee up about five.
Okay.
45 seconds. 45
seconds.
45 seconds.
Allen in Alabama.
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Of course!
Exactly.
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He knows what he's talking about.
He's worked for the president.
He's worked for all these organizations with the military.
You can believe what he says.
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Today's one of those days where I feel I need a lot of help in getting things explained to me, especially when they're cuts coming from the White House.
Sleepy Creepy is kind of half back in the saddle after catching COVID, and he's kind of rewriting history.
It's not how I remember it.
Maybe Mr. G can help you out here.
This is Joe Biden on President Trump, cut five.
When my predecessor got COVID, he had to get helicoptered to Walter Reed Medical Center.
He was severely ill.
Thankfully, he recovered.
When I got COVID, I worked from upstairs of the White House, and the office is upstairs, and for that five-day period.
The difference is vaccinations, of course.
Jeff, is that old man seriously saying he's more healthy than my old boss, Donald Trump?
Yeah, he is.
I think so.
I mean, he looks it.
He looks good.
Sounds well, too.
Well, you mean because he found his aviators, right?
Yeah.
No, he looks good lately, I think.
Yeah, right.
Let's live in the real world.
Let's talk about the state of the economy this man has created with somebody who understands what it means to have incompetence at the levers of power and that's why he ran for office and won.
He is the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University.
Dave Brat, welcome back to America First.
Hey, thanks a lot, Zeb.
Great to be on your show, always.
Thanks for joining us.
I know you're in the middle of a lengthy, lengthy drive back to the Commonwealth.
I'm just going to ask the Professor a very leading question.
What is a recession?
Is it complicated to define that, Professor?
No.
Just ask the average family if we're in a recession, and they'll say it's a disaster.
The left has changed the meaning of everything, whether a mask works, whether you've got COVID, whether we've got a recession.
What a man and a woman is there in the middle of a George Orwell play.
That's a disaster.
And so we need change.
And the economy right now, unfortunately, the Fed has put us into a position where there's no easy out 10 years of 0% interest rates.
On the federal funds rate and that they should never have allowed that to happen.
They thought they were getting tricky and they thought they were giving their rich friends.
Permanent bailout and a permanent boost for the last 10 years, but it's been at the expense of the 85% of Americans who don't own much stock at all.
And so that's it.
We're in a terrible predicament now.
Everyone says, how do you get out right now?
You don't get out right now because it's been 10 years in the building.
The fiscal policy is a disaster.
We're $30 trillion in debt.
We have $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities on Social Security and And Medicare on top of the monetary disaster that the Federal Reserve has put us in.
And if people want to know who's telling the truth, I just tell everybody, go back 10 or 20 years, go out your Milton Friedman, who won the Nobel Prize from Ethereum, or John Taylor out at Stanford.
He took over after Friedman as the world's best monetary guy.
And if we would have followed the Taylor In ten years, instead of following these guys who think they're geniuses, we would not be in this spot right now.
Let's listen to one of these people who thinks he's a genius.
Economic advisor to the man in the White House who has a strange way with words.
Cut 13, this is Brian Deese.
The totality of the economic data is consistent with that type of transition.
And it's not consistent with a recession.
So, Professor Bratt, it's not a recession, it's a transition.
How did you not know that?
That's a bunch of mumbo-jumbo as well, and Janet Yellen, the Secretary of the Treasury, said something just like it a couple days back.
She said there's not enough sectors of the economy that are showing a downturn.
That's not true.
You can go look at any composite For output right now.
Output is just what you make, right?
It's the GDP.
And the entire output of the country is collapsing.
And so that's why they're getting ready for the bad news.
There's obviously a recession.
Output is down.
Output is the one thing they cannot fix, because they only focus on Keynesian economics.
They focus on all the tricks.
How do you gin up some more government spending?
Economy with government spending.
How do you print more money to fake out the economy with more tricks?
On the monetary side, what we need is to get back to the supply side of production.
And when you make output, when you actually make stuff, then guess what happens?
Then you make profits and earnings.
And when you make profits, the stock market goes up the old-fashioned way, instead of having to play all these games.
And so the last thing you'll ever hear is the White House talking about the real economy.
And it's kind of funny, but they focus on the jobs report.
Well, how in the world can jobs be up by so much if your output is collapsing?
Right?
So you've got a ton more people working, making way less stuff.
None of it makes any sense, and we've got to start asking the right questions.
Here's my worry.
We're talking to the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, Dave Bratt, former Virginia Congressman.
I'm not an economist, but I know people who are, and that's why I invite you on this show.
I don't see anybody in the building, Dave, who knows what they are doing.
We've seen the figures.
The majority of economic advisors in this White House have never worked in the private sector.
So the idea that they're suddenly going to understand what they're doing and fix it, I'm sorry, it's impossible, Dave.
Yeah, well, it's that, and it's even worse to be in an economic school.
You're hired by your department, right?
So if you've got a bunch of leftist folks in your department at every school, guess who gets hired?
They're not going to hire free market people.
So the whole thing is biased and skewed.
And the absence, right?
It's not only in the building.
Where are the lead economists at Harvard, Princeton, Yale, or these other supposedly top They're nowhere to be found, telling you.
Do they agree?
We're not in a recession.
And their quietness tells you everything, right?
They know they cannot say anything in public right now.
They lose their jobs.
And I'm serious on that, right?
If anyone from those major, you know, I.D.
leftist schools goes out and speaks on record in public, they're toast.
Larry Summers is the one exception.
He's been a little bit better, but he's not fully forthcoming.
All right, well, we need to let you wend your way back to the Commonwealth.
Thank you.
I think we need to get you on this show regularly to give us a bit of common sense, because it's not going to get better in the White House.
Thank you, Dave Brat.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Your call's next here.
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Oh yeah?
No, he's not.
He's off.
Um, they're lying about the economy.
Lying about the economy.
Do you have, oh, and, um, 1A.
1A.
You mean Navarro?
No, it's 2A.
Oh.
Oh, you want to post that?
Alright, let me find it.
Do I want to post... Do I want to post... Hang on, just let me make sure I find it.
Do I want to post myself?
Let me think about... Oh, I thought we took... Didn't we take some colors in the second one?
Yeah, I want to post that.
I do want to post that.
So B, that was... Wait, this is B we just did.
Okay, so that's... Should be this one.
Yeah, it's this one.
Okay.
And 2A, then.
Why you should vote Democrat.
Why you should vote Democrat.
That'll give a few people heart attacks.
Friend of mine just sent me, I guess, uh, Ned Ryan was on a panel on Fox the other day on Kennedy's show with, uh, that guy Brad Palumbo from The Washington Examiner.
Oh yeah.
And they were talking about monkey pox and Ned Ryan said straight, like, if you don't want to get monkey pox, just don't attend gay orgies.
That might be an idea.
And Brad got really mad because, you know, he's gay.
So, like, they... Oh, no way!
Is he a little Palumbo?
Even, like, Kennedy, yeah, and Kennedy called him, like, said, we don't need to use bigoted language here, Ned.
And Ned was like, it's just facts!
Like, 95% of Mike Fox says these are gay men.
Yeah.
He was just grinning the entire time and they're all yelling at him.
Oh, you've gotta find that and send that to me.
Yeah, yeah, I got it right here.
God, he's so great.
All right.
All right.
Oh, of course, it's Gurdurski.
I know, I know, but the video is golden.
Well, that guy looks weird.
He does look really weird, yeah, but ignore that.
The video is a masterpiece.
Okay.
Did she say biggity?
Yes.
The other girl said it too.
Really, Kennedy?
Oh, God.
Did she say bigoted?
Yes.
The other girl says it, too.
Really, Kennedy?
Oh, that's pathetic.
That easily spread, right?
It's not big.
This is science, Kennedy.
95% of the cases from the new world.
All right, you know what?
I'm going to let Brad respond, OK?
I'm going to let Brad respond, because, Brad, we have 372 doses.
The United States...
Wow, Kennedy, you're a fraud.
This is where the dumb nonsense really endangers people.
They're not even telling who the community is affected.
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah, they're going to declare global health emergencies over something like only gay people can get.
But they're not going to mention it to let them know.
Exactly.
They're going to make us think everyone's going to get it.
Wow.
Ned just does not care, though.
He just rolls with the punches.
It's great.
All right.
Wanna use any video cuts to segment?
Uh, no, I've got a course.
Callers. Callers.
Callers. Callers. Callers. - Mr. Groca, it's an honor to talk to you.
I'm also an immigrant since August 9, 1968, and I love this country.
This country owes me nothing, and I owe it everything.
That's why I served.
Wow.
This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
Love that line.
I just listened to a clip that Eric sent me in the break.
Mr. G, are there any good people left at Fox apart from Greg and Jesse and Tucker?
There's a few more than that, but it's getting less.
That clip with Ned Ryan being called a bigot by Kennedy, it's outrageous.
I think he was just stating something that really is going on, right?
Well yeah, medical facts about 95% of the people who catch monkeypox.
And it's not everyone!
I'm sorry.
If you do certain things with your sexual organs, you run a very high risk, Kennedy.
That's not bigotry.
What a disappointment.
Stop smiling, Eric.
Stop smiling, Eric.
Schadenfreude is a naughty, naughty thing.
All right, let's go to your calls.
Let's go to Ray Livermore.
Dr. G, thank you for taking my call.
Thank you for your wonderful show.
You sound so serious today.
What's up, Ray?
I don't know, I'll try to inject some funny in here, but you were playing Pete Booty Booty at the top of the, whatever, in your monologue at the top one of the hours.
Yeah.
Talking, you know, let them eat electric cars.
Yes.
I think the founding fathers would be so proud of us.
They would be beaming right now if they saw our gasoline powered cars and our air conditioning.
I think that they would love these two things.
More than any other invention that Americans have come up with.
Come on, come on, the AR-15.
Come on, Ray.
It's a former infantryman, a former paratrooper.
The modern day musket, yes.
The musket of the modern man.
So the air conditioner, right?
The F-150 and the modern musket.
How about that threesome?
There you go.
So the automobile Most of all, it should be called the Liberty Mobile.
Yes!
It represents liberty better than anything on the planet, because you can get in your Liberty Mobile and head one direction.
I can get mine and head another direction.
Next thing you know, we're at the borders of the country at opposite sides.
And you know why it's not the motorbike, Ray?
I'm thinking on my feet.
You know why it's not the motorbike that is the Liberty Machine?
I'll tell you why.
You ready?
Go.
Because a motorbike doesn't have air conditioning.
There you go.
You got it.
Right?
It has both of the great inventions in one.
So I'm reading an article today, and this is exposed as their real plan.
It's not about electric cars.
It's not about carbon footprints.
It's not about fossil fuels, which happen to be the most reliable, available, inexpensive, proven energy, compact energy on the planet.
Proven.
It's not about any of that.
It's about liberty.
The WEF said they want Personal-owned, privately-owned automobiles to be outlawed.
That is the end game for them, Dr. G. They do not want us in our own cars.
They want us on buses and trains.
They want us treated like cattle.
They don't want the Liberty Mobile on.
People, don't buy this electric car bullcrap.
This is about taking all cars away from you.
That's just one step in a process.
I said it many, many years ago at CPAC.
It's about your F-150, it's about your cheeseburgers, and they are not giving up.
But neither are we, and we will win.
I love it.
Let's put that poster up from Times Square that the Job Creators Network put up there of... Is it King Pete?
Queen Pete?
What do they call him?
Let's Put it up there.
Pain at the pump?
Elite, Pete says.
Let them drive electric cars.
Let them eat Teslas.
Thank you.
Great call, Ray.
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Let's go to New Mexico, Line 2.
Ryle, welcome to America First.
Yeah, I was just going to comment on something a while ago about Trump's appointments and if you might have heard of the five W's.
I have no idea what the five W's are, no.
Carry on.
What was wrong with Whitaker?
Get to the point.
Explain.
Did you like Whitaker as an Attorney General?
I think he could have been stronger.
Yeah, but I mean, he was a whole lot sight better than bar.
I couldn't see why they got rid of him.
I think he came on too strong and they were afraid of him.
Afraid of him doing what?
uh... holding up the uh... uh... code of law and the law of the constitution.
What's your evidence for that?
The reason they got rid of him so quick.
No, no.
What is your evidence that that's the reason?
That would be reason... No, that's your hypothesis.
Do you know a hypothesis and what is the evidence?
What is the evidence you have for that?
Because what they replaced him with was a total uh... deep state uh...
False.
Nobody knew that at the time, so it's hypothesis.
But thank you for your call.
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What was that?
Was that the Matt Whitaker fan club?
I don't understand.
How about the five W's?
It's the same thing he said to me.
Do you know what the five... No, and I don't know what the seven Q's are either.
First of all, he wasn't replaced.
He was in acting.
Right.
Anyway, that's right.
But what... I don't understand calls like that.
Can you help me?
What is the point of that call and who is that?
Is that like his brother or what is that?
No, his brother would have a little bit better argument, I think.
But then why make, of all the people, of all the people, to call in and talk about Matt Whitaker?
I don't understand it!
And he wasn't even replaced, that's why it makes no sense.
No!
Sometimes you try and try and understand.
It's hard.
It's hard.
All right, where are we?
I like Whitaker too, but yeah.
I like him, but you know, he could have been much tougher.
Oh, totally.
Much tougher.
As in acting, though?
Yeah, he could still be tougher.
I mean, but that stuff takes time.
Remember when Grinnell was the acting DNI?
Yeah.
He kicked ass.
I mean, like...
But even he didn't declassify everything.
No, it doesn't matter.
They would have held on to it.
Trump even declassified something.
I know, I know.
But acting doesn't mean you have less powers.
It just means you haven't been confirmed.
You're temporary, yeah.
This is the D segment, 90 seconds.
D, alright.
What big things that we... Oh, we should play the Michigan coach, right?
At some point.
Yeah.
Also, probably some more if Trump wouldn't hurt from his speech.
He played six.
We played six, but I don't want to talk about China.
We don't have anything else from here.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, you want to talk about the Kamala Harris pronouns thing and large- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's such a long cut.
The ice cream thing's pretty funny.
The ice cream thing, okay.
I'm not surprised it's Ben & Jerry's either.
Of course it's Ben & Jerry's!
Of course it's Ben & Jerry's!
Tsk, tsk.
I'll keep going to Carvel for my ice cream.
Thank you very much.
One minute.
Alright, block lines.
Line status blocked.
Um, 50 seconds.
So you don't want to come in with anything?
Uh, no.
Okay.
seconds.
Thank you.
A man, a A legend.
A legal immigrant.
Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
That's a nice deep voice liner there.
I wonder who did that.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
The call board is full.
But I have to celebrate a little victory for our buddies at Turning Point USA.
First we have what they said of Turning Point USA yesterday.
Eric, if you have that cut.
I think this is Whoopi Goldberg being very slanderous and libelous.
Do we have that cut?
No, not the apology.
You've got the other cut.
We'll do the apology in a second.
Is it ready?
Can somebody whisper in my ear to hear the original?
All right, play the apology.
Whoopi Goldberg called Turning Point USA neo-Nazis and then they had to do this after Turning Point USA threatened to sue them.
Play cut.
So on Monday, we talked about the fact that there were openly neo-Nazi demonstrators outside the Florida Student Action Summit of the Turning Point USA group.
We want to make clear that these demonstrators were gathered outside the event and that they were not invited or endorsed by Turning Point USA.
A Turning Point USA spokesman said the group, quote, 100% condemns those ideologies.
Mr. G, I'm curious.
It's Whoopi Goldberg who called them Nazis.
Why didn't she give the apology?
Nazis from the area but could not because they were on public property.
Also, Turning Point USA wanted to clarify, wanted us to clarify that this was a Turning Point USA summit and not a Republican Party event.
So we apologize for anything we said that may have been unclear on these points.
Mr. G, I'm curious.
It's Whoopi Goldberg who called them Nazis.
Why didn't she give the apology?
It was Whoopi and Joy.
So why didn't they have to make the apology?
That's what I wanted to know, too.
That was the first thing I thought when I saw the apology.
Eh, strange that.
I wonder why that was.
As Chris, as Charlie Kirk just pointed out, first time in her life, Whoopi Goldberg has been quiet.
Let's go to your calls, line one, waiting very patiently in New Jersey, Leonardo!
Sebastian, you are Donald Trump's think tank.
You're the brain trust.
I know the clip that they played says Donald Trump specifically says that you could trust this man, you could learn from him.
You're the brain trust.
Anyway, Charlemagne the God, right?
Yes.
He could use a ultra-MAGA blexit brain transplant from one of your Salem colleagues, Officer Brandon Tatum and, of course, Candace Owens.
Maybe he could wake up one of these days.
And I think, too, Biden is over there mouthing about a climate crisis because they're putting a flyer out there to see if they could keep the lockboxes.
You know, bring that because it's a crisis.
It's all fear.
You're absolutely right.
More excuses to use the word emergency and use government power.
But I like that.
I think Brad and Tatum could definitely teach Charlemagne the God a little bit.
And especially how to spell the word the.
Thank you for your patience, Leo.
Let's go to Daniel, Texas.
Line 5.
Yes, sir.
I appreciate everything you do for our country.
And I had a suggestion for a t-shirt to be worn at these pro-abortion rallies.
You wouldn't have to say anything.
The shirt should read, Have you thanked your mother today for not aborting you?
Oh, I like that.
I like that logic.
That is very, very sound.
Stay on the line, Daniel.
Let's give him a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
That is excellent.
Excellent.
We love these ideas.
Let's go to Edward in Chicago, line three.
Welcome, Edward.
Yeah.
Hello.
First time caller, but I've been a longtime listener.
I love your television themes.
Very good.
I'm a big fan of the old TV shows.
Good, we try our best.
Yeah, so instead of swapping that Victor Budo, whatever his name is, arms dealer, I think we should do that for the mayor's security detail because they don't want to pay speeding tickets and they got those in school zones.
You kind of lost me there.
You kind of lost me there.
What are you talking about?
And start from the beginning.
Well, the mayor, yeah, the mayor's security team does not want... Who?
Which mayor?
Which mayor?
Mayor Lightfoot in Chicago here.
Okay, all right.
So, Mayor Lightfoot, Mayor Hobbit.
Yeah, she's got that massive double security team.
What's your suggestion, Edward?
My suggestion is to swap them for Brittany Griner instead of the arms dealer.
Okay, all right.
Thank you.
Thank you, Edward, for your suggestion.
Jeffrey, San Francisco, line four.
Yes, Dr. Gorka, truly an honor to speak to you.
I just wanted to mention that these so-called economic geniuses that are talking about the recession, it can't be a recession because of the The jobs, the job growth, well, aren't these jobs that are being, you know, basically replaced from, you know, all the jobs that were lost during the lockdown?
Exactly.
They're the jobs that were shut down because of the federal shutdown.
They're not new jobs.
They're people being allowed to go back to work.
You nailed it, Jeffrey!
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I keep hearing these These people talking about, oh, it's not a recession.
I mean, well, we know what the definition is, but they say it can't be a recession because of the job growth.
No, it's not job growth.
It's because these jobs are being... But beyond that, Geoffrey, beyond that, the job growth is irrelevant because the definition of recession has simply to do with the economy writ large.
It's not just jobs.
It is the growth of the economy or the shrinkage of the economy.
If you have shrinkage of the economy for two quarters in a row, that is a recession, irrespective of what the jobs figures are.
And then you've got the very good question from our colleague Dave Brad who said, hang on a second, how can you have a growth in jobs if you have less production?
What kind of jobs are we talking about?
That's the real question.
Maybe it has to do with ice cream.
There's a very strange story about ice cream that we want to share with you that your favorite flavors may be in danger.
Let's play that cut.
Do you have that cut?
Cut eight, Eric.
Soon, climate change could show up in your freezer.
Popular ice cream flavors now in danger.
The raw ingredients there are a little harder to grow in a hotter world.
It's chocolate chip cookie dough day inside the factory where Ben & Jerry's makes its ice cream.
Bite-sized chunks of frozen cookie dough get added, followed by chocolate chips.
But climate change is threatening this popular ice cream pint and many others.
All of these flavors in the cup are in danger.
They are, because they've all got cocoa, coffee, vanilla, nuts.
Oh, it's a crisis with your ice cream.
Eric, you made one very astute observation.
What is the problem with that story?
Of all the ice cream companies it could have been, it's Ben & Jerry's.
Ben & Jerry's, the wokest food company in America.
The anti-Semitic, pro-Palestinian, anti-Trump brand.
And they're the ones telling you that your favorite ice cream flavors are endangered.
Yeah, right.
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Did you understand that point about Mayor Lightfoot?
No.
No, and it's not what he said on the phone either.
It made zero sense.
Okay, good.
Thank you.
Not just me.
Alright.
Also, for her, I like the nickname Mayor Beetlejuice.
Oh, yes.
Definitely.
Alright, we haven't done Lara, we haven't done Gutfeld.
Did we do Gutfeld?
No.
Oh, okay.
We should probably do Coach Harbaugh.
That's cut 14.
Lots of cuts in this shortest of segments.
Lots
of cuts in this. 35 seconds.
seconds.
Don't want to come in with anything?
Mm-mm.
All right.
America first.
There's a coach out there with a very distinguished name, Jim Harbaugh, Michigan, who has a very powerful message after Roe v. Wade.
How many people would have the strength to say what Jim Harbaugh has just said?
Cut 14, play cut.
I've told, same thing I tell my kids, boys, the girls, same thing I tell our players, our staff members.
I would encourage them if they have a pregnancy that wasn't planned to go through with it, go through with it, let that unborn child be born and if at that time You don't feel like you can care for it, you don't have the means or the wherewithal, then Sarah and I will take that baby.
Any player on our team, any female staff member, any staff member, or anybody in our family, our extended family, that doesn't feel like after they have a baby that they can take care of for it, we got a big house, we'll raise that baby.
What a great message.
Jeff, what's the reputation of Coach Harbaugh?
He was a quarterback for a long time then.
He's a very successful coach, too.
Very popular, yeah.
Has he ever done anything like that before?
Spoken about something cultural or political?
He... I remember when he was playing or when he first started coaching college, there was something about religion in his faith, too.
Something came out like that.
God bless Jim Harbaugh.
That is somebody who's leading the way.
We need more men like that.
Let's squeeze in one more call.
We're going to talk about what really happened on January 6th with Darren Beatty.
Next, who is Ray Epps?
You don't want to miss it.
But first, Neil from Los Angeles.
Yes, thank you, Dr. Sebastian.
My question is, why did your boss, Trump administration, have to go through so many administrative cabinet positions?
Kelly, Meadows, Previs, Bannon, you, Uh, I mean, one after the other, if any little thing was out of place, they were out of there, but you got Mayorkas destroying the border, you got this guy Meese shredding the economy, A.G.
Mermatless Warren going out there, uh, uh, uh, destroying families and parents of children, and these people go around with impunity!
Because...
Because the swamp is left-wing.
That's why.
It's because people like Kelly... It doesn't matter.
He'd never worked... Neil, calm down.
He'd never worked in the swamp before.
He didn't have thousands of people who'd been working for him in the swamp before, like the GOP or the Democrats do.
The rhinos protect each other.
The Democrats protect each other.
When an outsider comes in, he has to be destroyed.
It's a great question, but deep down, you know the answer.
Of course you do.
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We'll be back to talk January 6th.
We'll be back to talk January 6th.
We'll be back to talk January 6th.
Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
Can we meet?
I've been working with Greg Phillips.
He has a deep background in election intelligence.
True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
This is not grandma walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
This is organized crime.
Do you have video evidence?
Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
We are a criminal cartel masquerading as a democracy.
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We had, what is it, eight sessions of the January 6th Inquisition and Show Trial.
And that's not enough for the crazy leftists.
Allegedly they shall return in September, but somebody's already ready with a rebuttal.
Why is that necessary?
Because the person who is being accused isn't allowed to be there, neither are his representatives, and there are no cross-witness questions at all.
Because it's not a real investigation.
Who had that superb idea?
He's our special guest on America First one-on-one today, Darren Beatty, founder and editor at Revolver News.
Darren, welcome back to America First.
Great to be here.
Thanks for having me again.
So I'm angry that you came up with this idea because I would have loved to have come up with this idea.
So put the image up on the screen.
We don't have an official report like the 9-11 official commission report, but should it actually be released?
This gentleman, the founder of Revolver News, has prepared to rebut it with his own foreword prior to the official report.
Tell us how you came up with this idea and why it needs to be done, Darren.
Well, you know, I wish I could claim credit for the idea, but actually it's the idea of the great folks over at Skyhorse.
Press and they published a lot of interesting things.
They are despite being a subsidiary.
I believe of Simon and Schuster.
They are undeterred to explore things that run contrary to the dominant establishment narratives, and what better topic to explore from a contra-establishment point of view than the January 6th hoax being perpetrated against the public by nefarious elements of the regime.
And so what this book is going to be, it's going to be the sham report that's going to come out publicly, presumably, that's going to be released by Benny Thompson and Liz Cheney,
But it'll have my introduction, basically, to demolish the whole thing, to answer their questions, and most importantly, not to engage in, okay, I'm just going to respond to everything they say, because a lot of what they say is ridiculous, but to address the really salient issues that are left entirely unexplored in this alleged investigation, which is really the important thing, is not
Directly refuting every bit of nonsense that they put out to the public, but rather presenting those core pillar issues that get to the beating heart of January 6th that remain entirely unexplored by the committee.
And indeed, I would even say the committee was set up to suppress Such an exploration.
And so this could be the kind of first thrust of what ultimately develops into an actual, legitimate, objective, fact-finding, investigatory committee that could come into fruition in the near future once the Republicans take the House.
So let's give a little tease about the things that you will have to cover in your rebuttal.
You're absolutely right.
Something bad did happen on January the 6th.
We want to know the answers to what happened and how it happened, which clearly is not the goal of the current quote-unquote commission as it stands.
Here are a couple of things that you guys have covered in amazing long pieces, research pieces at Revolver News.
For example, Ray Epps.
Who is Ray Epps?
How does this individual that we can see on the video calling for the Breach of Congress, calling for people to move in into those restricted areas.
How does he end up on the FBI's wanted list?
How does he disappear from that list?
And also we've got footage and all your coverage of the tower commander, the so-called tower commander, the individual who climbs to the top.
Do we have this footage?
Can you play it guys while I'm talking about it?
We've got Ray Epps, we've got the tower commander, individuals who are screaming through some kind of PA system, some kind of megaphone, that they, you know, we've made it!
We're in there!
Go there!
Breach!
Get through!
And we don't even know who these people are.
So are these some of the questions?
If so, what other ones would you ask in your foreword?
Well, yes, indeed.
The foreword absolutely will explore the Ray Epps question, this question of the Scaffold Commander that you brought up, and I'm happy to go into additional detail in our discussion here about either of those individuals.
But from the kind of real bird's eye, broad stroke, kind of contextual sense, the reason that Ray Epps and the Scaffold Commander are relevant is that They directly contradict, or at the very least complicate, the official narrative that everything kicked off because the Proud Boys were at the Peace Monument, were at the west side of the Capitol, and initiated that first breach.
The classic Revolver.News Ray Epps series, particularly the second part, uncovers a web, a network of people, Who were conveniently positioned right there at the initial breach site before the Proud Boys even arrived, and who each in their own way, according to their own role, played a decisive role in allowing that rally to turn into a riot.
For instance, by cutting down fencing before the crowd even got there from Trump's speech.
because it's critical to note that iconic sort of Ray Epps breach, the breach where Ray Epps whispers into a guy's ear and they mow down the bike rack, that happens while Trump is still speaking.
The crowd, it takes 30 minutes for the crowd to get there.
And so we want to explore the people who are allegedly Trump supporters, but they didn't even go to the speech Instead, they were conveniently positioned at this decisive critical juncture at just the right time, and each played a critical role.
For instance, the scaffold commander goes up there with a bullhorn, constantly telling people, Move forward.
Move forward.
We need your help.
We need your help.
Now, just as a matter of crowd psychology, if you arrive there after going to the speech, the fences are down because we had professional-looking people methodically tearing down the fences before the crowd went.
So there's this big booby trap where people are technically trespassing without even knowing it.
Then they're in this big crowd by the Capitol, and they hear this authoritative voice of a guy positioned on top of a scaffold.
Blowing out of his bullhorn constantly saying move forward move forward.
We need your help Now for the crowd, all the crowd knew maybe someone was injured and they're trying to move the crowd to make way for medical assistance.
Who knows?
But when you constantly hear move forward from that kind of authoritative position over and over and over again, we need your help move forward, that's what people are going to do.
And so that's one example of the handful of critical people We're all conveniently at the same place at the same time before the Proud Boys got there, without whom, in my belief, this rally could not have turned into what it turned into.
And they're all unindicted.
And in the case of the Scaffold Commander, who might be the most egregious individual in the whole affair, even more so than Ray Epps, He's not only not indicted, he's not only not on the FBI Most Wanted list for January 6th, he's not even been identified.
Yeah.
Let's talk very quickly.
There's so many questions I've been scribbling down while I'm listening to you because, you know, the amazing coverage that you guys have done at Revolver News.
The timing issue.
Just spend a minute on the timing issue.
As you said, people, you know, I was there in the front row listening to the President, but you're talking about people who didn't even come to the Ellipse, correct?
Correct.
Or weren't there while Trump was speaking.
So this is the thing.
In the case of Ray Epps, of course, you know, I think this is sufficiently seeded into people's minds that if they haven't seen it, go look it up on revolver.news.
There's that iconic footage of Ray Epps the night before on the 5th saying, we need to go into the Capitol, into the Capitol.
But on the next day, on January 6, Ray Epps is at the Ellipse before Trump starts speaking.
And he's there at the Ellipse multiple times telling the crowd, Spread the word!
When Trump's done speaking, we're all going to the Capitol.
That's where our true problems are.
It's in that direction.
And he's telling people, everyone, after the speech, we're going to the Capitol.
That's where our problems are.
It's in that direction.
But this guy, Ray Epps, who, according to the New York Times, like a cover-up piece on him, traveled on a last-minute basis to D.C. because he and his son just wanted to hear Trump speak.
Well, Ray Epps, who traveled from Arizona, did not go to the speech.
He was there at the Ellipse before the speech telling people where to go, going to the Capitol, because that's where our problems are.
But he's not at the speech.
Instead, he walks over to the peace monument, which is right by the site of the initial breach.
And he's there as Trump is concluding his speech.
And he's there pre-positioned with a number of other highly suspicious individuals who are all there just conveniently at that same place at the same time, who all seemingly coordinate to allow this thing to turn into the riotous type of situation it does.
All right, we're going to discuss him and the Scaffold Commander in more detail in a moment.
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Darren, let's continue to just unpack.
We're waiting for the official report.
You're going to publish it with your forward that debunks it for the January 6th quote-unquote committee, which is in fact a show trial.
Let's unpack some of the questions that aren't simply being covered.
Firstly, Right after the event, there were lots of handheld phone footage that people posted on social media.
Peculiar sights of people who looked like they were around Congress, who were changing their clothes prior to getting involved in the altercations or the riot, who were putting on MAGA hats, putting on, you know, clothing that identified them as Trump supporters.
What have your team at Revolver News found with regards to these allegations?
Did this happen?
Is this footage verifiable?
Do we know anything about these people and why were they changing their clothes Darren?
You know that's a great question and I'm familiar with the footage of this sort of thing but I have to concede I'm not well versed in that.
I haven't done the deep dive into that.
There's so many different dimensions of this and so much footage and so much to cover between the east side of the capital, the west side of the capital, the whole span of things.
And so I can't really comment with any special authority on the changing of clothes.
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This This is why this guy does not fit into the swamp.
In the swamp, if you're on a show and they ask you a question, you just lie and you make it up.
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Okay, what about the question of the Proud Boys?
Because this seems to be the shibboleth, the boogeyman of the left.
What should our listeners, our viewers, know about this organization that has been painted as some kind of anarchic, catalytic organization for January the 6th?
Well, there's a lot to say about that, and it is definitely a vexed issue, to say the least.
I would say, again, the broad strokes, the bird's eye, bigger context, which is essentially the Revolver thesis advocated in those two iconic Ray Epps pieces, is that the Proud Boys, by and large, are kind of set up.
They're kind of the fall guys insofar as that initial breach is concerned.
Because you have a number of key and critical actors that are pre-positioned at that first breach point before the Proud Boys even got there.
Now I do think there are a lot of interesting questions to ask about the Proud Boys independently that relate to potential federal foreknowledge.
So we know that there's at least Two informants embedded in the Proud Boys on January 6 and in fact one of those was embedded with the Proud Boys as early as July.
We know this from FBI statements or from the January 6 witch hunt.
We don't know.
Ironically, we know this in the first instance from the New York Times that kind of begrudgingly had to get ahead of this because Revolver had drawn attention to all this stuff, and they wanted to kind of put it out there and give their sort of massage narrative as to say, oh, and they wanted to kind of put it out there and give their sort of massage Don't worry about it.
It's not such a big deal.
But, yes, there was two informants, at least in Proud Boys.
One of them was texting his handler simultaneously as the events were unfolding.
And really the key question that I would have about the Proud Boys is this, because you mentioned, and again, I hate to get too into the weeds, but the timing and precision is really critical to understanding what's going on here.
Because you have the Proud Boys who meet at 10 a.m.
at the Washington Monument, I believe, and then they end up right at that breach point, like just shortly after the Ray Epps and those other people I mentioned were there, about 10 minutes after.
And so the question is, how did the Proud Boys end up there?
And did the feds, through their various informants, know that the Proud Boys would be there at that time?
And your presupposition is that they were funneled to that area?
That maybe an informant led them to that breach point?
Well, they could have known from a variety of ways, but I think if the feds knew that the Proud Boys were going to be at that location at that time, Um, that would be a way that I could imagine they could tell their people, okay, we need you pre-positioned here.
The Proud Boys are going to be there.
They might be a little bit rowdy, maybe not, but we need our people in there to make sure that this really kicks off.
And that's essentially what I think happened.
I think that the Feds knew that the Proud Boys would be there at that time.
I think there's even a fairly high likelihood that some of the leaders of the Proud Boys had been in communication with the Feds, and that the result of that communication was some kind of understanding that they would be at that place at that time.
But I think that that was basically a setup, and that the Proud Boys are essentially the patsies for that unindicted core group of people who were cutting the fencing in advance, who were the scaffold commander who was engaging in very professional-grade crowd control, and people like Ray Epps, who, even though Epps didn't go into the Capitol, was certainly, from all video evidence, seemed to suggest
That he played an orchestrating role in enabling that initial and decisive breach to occur and that's, you know, I could get into a lot of detail on all of that but that in broad strokes is the Revolver News thesis on how this all went down.
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Alright, everybody needs to read these series of articles at revolver.news, Darren.
But let's talk a little bit about this fascinating character of Ray Epps.
So, why does the story just not... I mean, there's a massive puff piece to him a week ago in the New York Times saying, he's the poor victim, the guy who's not in solitary, not being denied his cancer treatment in, you know, in a stinking prison cell in Washington, D.C.
No, the guy at home, free with his wife, he's the victim.
So, what do people need to know about this mysterious figure?
Well, again, there's been a lot that's already covered, so I'll try to assume that people know most of the basics.
Look, he's the only person caught on camera repeatedly and insistently all the way back to January 5th urging people to go into the Capitol.
As far as I know, he's the first person Basically on video, one of the few people at all on video announcing the intention to go into the Capitol or urging others to do so.
It's not a one-off thing.
He follows up on this incessantly on January 6th, and he, as I mentioned, is prepositioned very conveniently right at that initial breach point, the right place at the right time, and speaks to people about breaking in.
In fact, one of People who is indicted, who has his own story, who is known by researchers as Maroon Proud Boy, he tells them just like a minute before that initial breach, when we go in, leave this here, referring to bear spray.
And so there's this continuous foreknowledge and intention, seemingly, of some kind of breach situation into the Capitol.
And amazingly, you know, his behavior was initially so egregious that he made it to the, you know, First 20 people on the FBI's most wanted list.
All of the sort of left-wing vigilante researchers were trying to identify him.
The New York Times, in its own video documentary on Ray Epps, depicted him as one of the handful of rioters who had a plan to siege the Capitol in advance.
And now it's total damage control mode, where Adam Kinchenger is defending him.
The New York Times wrote this bizarre puff piece on him.
And it's clear that he is the smoking gun of the whole thing.
And just a few kind of additional data points for people who have been following, who might want some new material.
You know, just interesting observations.
There are all these kinds of things.
So the lawyer that Ray Epps retained is actually, he's a nine-year veteran of the Phoenix FBI field office.
Now, here's something very interesting.
So When the committee was doing its Ray Epps damage control, they cited a statement that Ray Epps gave, presumably through this lawyer, saying that Ray Epps is not working for the FBI or any law enforcement and never has worked for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency.
Now, If you're paying close attention to that, you can note the significance.
Why lean in so precisely and legalistically to the law enforcement term?
Why not just say any government agency?
Right.
It hasn't worked for the U.S.
government or any U.S.
agency.
Right.
And it gets more interesting than that, because a reporter for the Epoch Times, I believe, actually was able to get this lawyer on the phone.
And from what he reported of this conversation, Epps' lawyer said, unequivocally, Ray Epps does not belong to the FBI.
He's not an FBI informant.
Unequivocally.
And then he was asked, well, Does he belong to any other government agency or was he acting at the direction of any other government agency, intelligence or otherwise?
And the lawyer's answer was, not to my knowledge.
So it's very interesting, like when you think about how conversations with legal counsel go, it's not like they didn't, you know, it's very unlikely to me that they didn't sort of rehearse what they would say if asked these types of questions.
And so the contrast between that very emphatic, unequivocal denial of FBI involvement and the lawyer saying, not to my knowledge, when it comes to intelligence or other agencies, to me is, you know, it's a circumstantial point, but it certainly kind of is suggestive in light of all of the other evidence about Ray but it certainly kind of is suggestive in light of all So, so many questions to ask, let alone get answers to that.
That's why he is going to publish the official findings of this show trial, and he's going to write the rebuttal as a foreword.
Let's put that image up there.
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She was their star witness, the senior White House official.
Amazing that she was a senior White House official at 23, who had the smoking gun evidence that President Trump has 40-foot long arms and he can reach for steering wheels from the back of the beast, Let's remember the testimony from Cassidy Hutchinson.
The president said something to the effect of, I'm the effing president, take me up to the Capitol now.
To which Bobby responded, Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing.
The President reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel.
Mr. Engle grabbed his arm and said, Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
We're going back to the West Wing.
We're not going to the Capitol.
Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engle.
When Mr. Renato had recounted this story to me, he had motioned towards his clavicles.
That's my favorite bit.
Motioned towards his clavicles.
Because, of course, that's how human beings talk, especially 25-year-old former coffee maids from the White House.
It's funny, it's amusing, it collapsed within less than 24 hours.
The Secret Service, which never does this, actually made official statements saying, No, it didn't happen.
He wasn't even in the beast and he never lunged for the steering wheel.
Darren, you are the man following this so closely.
You're prepping to debunk it all.
It's funny.
It's humorous when they have these, you know, clownish star witnesses.
However, this is serious business, is it not, this commission?
I do think it's serious.
And again, like the kangaroo is the wrong animal.
This is worse than a kangaroo court.
It's something that is really worthy of some kind of North Korean display.
But somehow I think when North Korea does this, it has more gravitas, like a characteristic of the sort of late stage.
regime that this country has become.
It kind of has this amazing combination of evil and clownishness.
Yes, yes, this arrogance and ignorance at the same time.
Right.
And we certainly saw this clownishness.
And what's more to be said about Hutchinson?
The people, she was not directly involved in this by her own admission.
This was hearsay.
And the amazing fact is the two security individuals who were allegedly, you know, directly witness to this or directly involved.
They had been deposed by the committee itself.
So one wonders, why didn't the committee just put the direct witnesses on the stand in the first place rather than allow, as you say, the coffee maiden to come up here and tell a secondhand story that isn't even subject to any kind of cross-examination or any type of review as to the veracity of it.
It just underscores what a complete joke the committee is, how totally uninterested it is in actually getting to the truth of things when the very people involved in Hutchinson's own account had been deposed and they wouldn't put them on the witness stand instead.
And at the very least, they could release the transcripts of those depositions to see if this was discussed, was it contradicted then, and so forth.
But we don't get any of that.
All you get is this ridiculous display that anyone paying attention with a hint of objectivity knows is a joke, but unfortunately gets caught up in this media wave and the narrative takes a life of its own.
And for a pretty substantial fraction of the country that just believes what the media tells them and they're already disposed to think that Trump is the most evil thing that ever happened in the world, they believe it and they move on without looking into it at all.
So one thing that we haven't discussed, but it's still being used as a talking point, not just by the mainstream media, but even by the current incumbent of the White House, is that police officers were killed on that day.
Can you just, as somebody who's done lots of homework, who died that day and were any of them police officers?
Yeah, again, this is a great example.
They're referring to Officer Brian Sidnick, and, you know, there were no officers who died that day.
The people who did die on January 6th were Trump supporters, and they were not the officers.
In the case of Sidnick, you know, he was Caught up in this initial media frenzy, Revolver News reported on this very early on, called it a MAGA blood libel because really the first wave of reporting suggested that the rabid, frothing, murderous, Trump-loving mob
Beat Sicknick to death with a fire extinguisher and that was the dominant narrative for a long time even though there is basically no evidence at all to suggest this.
Everyone ran with it and then when the ridiculousness of that got to be exposed they shifted to another narrative and that was that Sicknick Uh, died of, uh, complications related to being sprayed with bear spray or some kind of chemical spray.
And Revolver News took that up and we actually did a kind of, uh, uh, uh, an image analysis using heat maps and all, all kinds of crazy stuff.
And we determined, look, it's the, the people that they claim hit Picnic with Bear Spray didn't even do that.
It looks like he wasn't, you know, hit at all where they said he was.
And then sure enough, The new narrative becomes, okay, well, we retract, you know, the bear spray thing didn't really kill him, he died of natural causes.
There are a lot of other weird things pertaining to Sicknik, but the case will be closed on that, I think, probably forever.
But the official version now is, okay, he died of natural causes, and yet the damage has been done, and, you know, this
The false idea that he died at the hands of the Trump mob had been so deeply and consistently seeded into the public's consciousness that people still repeat this, whether deliberately and maliciously or simply because it was repeated so often that it's just become a part of people's reality, even though that's absolutely not what happened.
And so we saw the resurrection of this, unfortunately, recently with discussion of Officer Sicknick.
And aren't there also some very serious questions that nobody wishes to discuss under this investigation of who actually died that day, who are civilians and how they died, Darren?
Well, yeah.
I mean, there's the probably the most infamous case is the case of Ashley Babbitt, who was shot and killed and with no clear warning signs whatsoever.
It wasn't clear what the protocol was.
And, you know, there are so many, you know, just dirty details about the whole thing.
The guy, the officer who shot her, it actually amazingly, before that, had left a loaded gun accidentally just in the bathroom of the Capitol and they didn't fire him or anything.
It's like clearly not, the most generous interpretation is the guy is totally incompetent and not fit. - Well, and not only that, Officer Michael Byrd's identity, amazingly, in a city that leaks like a sieve was kept secret for six months And then once it was finally released, he was lauded as a hero, as a man who, in an interview, a Puff Beast interview, said himself that he, he saved thousands of lives.
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All right, I feel like an hour just doesn't do this topic justice.
Of course, once your rebuttal is published to the official report from this, I don't know, kangaroo or panther or jaguar show trial, then we'll have some more knowledge of what should be asked and what is left untouched.
However, you've got a theory right now, and you're better positioned than most.
You've used, I think, the phrase Fed-surrection on my show.
So what is Darren Beatty's theory at the moment for what happened on January the 6th?
Well, I mean there are a lot of different elements to it but I think the Fed-surrection thesis of which Ray Epps is the smoking gun, one of the smoking guns at least, is that at the very least there was poor knowledge on the part of certain elements of the federal government and who kind of just let it happen because
The narrative of a domestic terror attack of January 6 is so precious to them because it's being used as the pretext to reconfigure the entire national security state politically, to weaponize the national security apparatus politically against Trump supporters.
So at the very least, there was knowledge, they let it happen.
But instances like EPS and those other key individuals who are yet unidentified indicate something perhaps even more sinister than foreknowledge, a kind of active involvement on the part of characters that, if they're not direct feds, they're certainly being protected by the federal government from prosecution.
And the question is, Why?
And I think that question leads to some very, very disturbing places.
And you know, I think Ray Epps's lawyer is probably telling the truth when he says unequivocally Epps is not an FBI informant.
But again, that leaves open a lot of other possibilities.
And I think there's no question that he was not an authentic actor on that day.
So whether he was acting with the Department of Homeland Security, some kind of joint terrorism task force, a military intelligence or some kind of Cut out contractor work that's sort of analogous to the whole like weird steel affair of this gray area like semi-intelligence people who did Russiagate.
Whatever the exact and precise arrangement is, which is of yet undetermined, I think it's very clear from the video evidence that there were people who are not authentic actors who played a decisive role in enabling this to become what it became.
And the government, at the very least, knew about it and did nothing to stop it and are, for whatever reason, protecting some of the most egregious participants in this while they're throwing the kitchen sink at pretty benign people.
Yeah, that is the most charitable interpretation, but I tend to think in my marrow that it's far, far worse.
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