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I thought Thursdays were supposed to be kind of easing into the weekend.
Mr. G, aren't Thursdays meant to be kind of quasi-slow newsdays?
Especially in the summer.
Right!
Everybody shuts it down.
I mean, you know, even getting guests in the swamp during the summer isn't easy.
We always have the best of day guys for a whole hour.
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Go to Spotify, go to Rumble, plug in my name, never ever miss one of our one-on-ones with the real newsmakers with the truth tellers okay that's 5 p.m eastern today with the one and only steve bannon uh but it is not a slow news day today first things first it's official we are in a recession we have had two quarters Of negative growth, the GDP should have increased by 0.5%.
That were the prognostications.
The fact is, it has grown by 0.9%, which isn't growth.
It's actual shrinkage, which is the official definition.
Let's listen to somebody who's a real journalist, one of the few inside the White House press pool.
Peter Doocy asking the current, I don't think she's gonna be there for long, the current White House press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre.
If things are going so great, though, then why is it the White House officials are trying to redefine recession?
No, we're not redefining recession.
If we all understand a recession to be two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth in a row, and then you have White House officials come up here to say, no, no, no, that's not what a recession is.
It's something else.
How is that not redefining recession?
Because that's not the definition.
That is not the definition.
Uh, that's not the definition?
It's not the definition?
Can I read to you, even on this evil thing called the googly?
It says here, recession, pronounced RIS-shun.
Number one, a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP, in two successive Quarters.
Seems quite simple to me, but for her it's not.
And I am reminded, I'm going to dig it up later in the day.
Let's open up the lines as well.
833-33-GORKA.
I want you to tell me whether you're feeling a recession or whether word games like this make you feel so much better regarding the state of the American economy.
The number for you to sound off is 833-334-6752.
833-334-6752.
But there's an amazing line in the original classified long telegram from George Kennan in Moscow, back to DC in 1946, when he was asked, and I use the long telegram, and the resultant classified plan to beat the Soviet Union, the NSC 68 and the resultant classified plan to beat the Soviet Union, the NSC 68 written by Paul Nietzsche and a few others, as a case study in how America got it right when we really, really understood a threat and wrote an amazing plan to
And there's an amazing passage In the original classified telegram that is now declassified.
You can read it.
I used it as a teaching tool when I was a professor.
Where Kennan says, you need to understand how communism works.
You need to understand the ideology of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and their attitude to truth.
It's very similar.
In fact, it's the same to what we are witnessing today.
Truth, according to Kennan, when it comes to the Kremlin, to the Politburo, to the Communist Party, is that which serves the interests of the party.
If today, the sky being blue, serves the interests of the Communist Party, then that is truth.
If tomorrow we want to say the sky is grey, and always is grey, and that serves the interests of the Communist Party, then it's great!
There is nothing objective, there is nothing that is permanent in the content of the word truth.
Truth, as a label, is measured by its utility to the Communist Party.
Recession, the word, means two consecutive quarters of negative growth, of shrinkage of an economy.
But now it doesn't.
Why?
Because President Trump isn't in the White House.
Because it's not a Republican administration.
It is a Democrat administration.
As a result, it doesn't mean what it means.
Because that doesn't serve the interests of the party.
They can't win a midterm if what they have told us and sold us is the great salvation of the nation by this senile old man who doesn't blink.
Did you see the video?
He doesn't blink!
He's like an automaton!
He's like an older version of Mark Zuckerberg staring at the camera with his eyelids pinned back.
I asked a couple of doctor friends, what on earth did they inject him with?
What is the chemical substance out there that locks your eyelids back and stops the normal human blink reflex?
A human being blinks 30, 40 times a minute.
If they're normal, if they're healthy, what's going on with Biden?
So, recession no, no, no, no, no longer means what it means.
Just like woman or man or secure border.
None of those words mean what they used to mean.
What they really mean.
A secure border means what today?
Two million illegal immigrants crossing in a year and a half.
It means more fentanyl Than is required to kill every human being in the nation being smuggled across the border.
I'm talking about just one instance.
That was one instance where they captured enough fentanyl to kill every adult in the nation.
And a man?
Or a woman?
Think about that.
A Supreme Court Associate Justice nominee.
Who is a woman?
Can't answer the question.
What is a woman?
With a very simple answer that is carved in stone, always will be true, always has been true, adult, human, female.
It's not complicated.
A woman is an adult, human, female.
But no, if I'm playing some kind of identity war, If I need to undermine masculinity, then I can't have these words mean what they have meant since the Garden of Eden.
No!
Everything is plastic.
This is the end result of deconstruction.
Nothing means what it used to mean.
Which actually results in what?
Nothing means anything.
And there I was thinking I was going to talk about so many other things.
Like AOC, is she really the dumbest person in Congress on Capitol Hill or is that Maisie Hirono?
Or who's the guy, is it Hank Johnson?
Who's the guy who thought that Guam would tip over if the Marines walked over to one side of the island?
Hank Johnson, thank you Eric.
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All right, Mike's on. .
It was Hank Johnson who introduced that bill on SCOTUS term limits.
Oh, the new one?
Yeah, that was him.
With Nadler as a co-sponsor.
Nadler is kind of making himself the face of the Supreme Court alteration.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, remember he had that stupid press conference?
in front of the Supreme Court like earlier this year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
About like Spanish.
Yeah, he's just trying to save his seat.
All right.
Can you play two, four, and five?
Go.
We don't want to devolve into the recession label debate, but I do wonder, do you eventually expect the NBER to declare what we're in, a recession?
Well, we're certainly in a transition, and we are seeing slowing as we all would have expected.
But I think if you look at the full data and the type of data that NBER looks at.
Yeah, that's a bad clip.
Let's try clip 4 here.
Even though he tested negative, not that much changes for Biden.
He still works from home, avoids crowds, and takes 20 pills a day.
That's right, Biden is COVID-free.
He even gave a quick speech from the White House Rose Garden.
Sounds like he's back to his old self.
Take a listen.
Millions of Americans have used Pax Lloyd.
Pax Lloyd, excuse me.
Pax Lloyd.
I tell you what.
I think it's... I used it.
Welcome back, Mr. President.
Welcome back.
Alright, are we gonna fix that cut?
We're learning even more about this so-called star witness.
According to new messages obtained by the Federalist, before Hutchinson testified, she called the committee phony and blasted Republicans Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger as a crop of losers.
But then when Hutchinson found out she might have to pay for a lawyer, she ran right into the arms of a Democratic law firm, who set her up nicely.
And now she doesn't ever have to pay for another drink in Washington again.
Cassidy's like the new Alexander Vindman, except much better looking.
You'll see her on CNN for at least a year, and she'll probably get a book deal.
Alright, let's try that cut to again here.
Take it.
We don't want to devolve into the recession label debate, but I do wonder, do you eventually expect the NBER to declare what we're in, a recession?
Well, we're certainly in a transition, and we are seeing slowing as we all would have expected, but I think if you look at the full data and the type of data that NBER looks at, virtually nothing signals that this period in the second quarter is recessionary.
All right.
And we have Boyle on the line.
All right.
Hang on a second.
Matt, can we just get a mic test?
Yep.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Nice and clear.
Everything sound good?
Is that a Comrex?
That's a Comrex, Dr. G. Nice!
Welcome back, Mr. Boyle.
I know, I've been traveling a lot lately.
Dude, excellent.
Alright, cut ten, please.
Let me hear it.
Ten.
That's up five thousand for- Oh my gosh!
Boy, not only was I wrong, down nine-tenths of one percent on first look at second quarter GDP.
Down nine-tenths of one percent.
Alright, good.
Alright, excellent.
I know there's an organ.
All right.
Tee it up.
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Okay, let's listen to Rick Santelli.
He's a little bit surprised by what we knew was coming.
It's the state of the Biden economy.
CNBC, cut ten!
That's up 5,000.
Oh my gosh!
Boy, not only was I wrong, down nine-tenths of 1% on first look at second quarter GDP.
Down nine-tenths of 1%, okay?
I know there's an organization that decides whether we're in a recession or not, but investors, they're not going to wait.
Two back-to-back negative quarters, it's not good.
Call it whatever you want.
Call it whatever you want, I'll call it what it is, a recession.
How did he not know what so many of us did, including our special guest, Matt Boyle, the Washington bureau chief for the most influential conservative website on the planet, Breitbart.com.
Welcome back, Matt.
How did he not know what was coming?
Didn't we all know if we live in the real world?
Well, yeah, look, in the Federal Reserve just yesterday, it hiked to rates three quarters of a point, right?
Like, everybody in the financial universe knows that this is, I would argue that it's worse than a recession.
I'd argue we're in a depression.
And the reason for that is because, and by the way, all of these are subjective terms, right?
Like, the whole argument that you see playing out there in the media right now about whether or not we're in a recession, there's a group of nerds that sit around, they're called the National Bureau of Economic Research, NBER.
They sit around in Cambridge, Massachusetts, just outside Boston at Harvard, right?
And they are the ones who, historically, looking back, eventually determined that we were in a recession at this point or another.
And it's subjective whether or not they do it.
So look, we have two straight quarters of A contracted economy.
A shrinking economy.
That's the literal definition of a recession.
So if and when the nerds maybe one day determine that we're in a recession, then whoop-dee-doo.
But the fact of the matter is that every major economic indicator, with the exception of unemployment, and that one's coming soon, is moving in the wrong direction, right?
So you've got GDP moving in the wrong direction.
You've got inflation moving in the wrong direction.
You've got, you know, the markets are moving in the wrong direction.
And then more importantly, I think we're going to be facing a major housing crisis pretty soon.
Now, look, to be fair to President Biden, OK, unemployment's at 3.6 percent.
So I get why they're arguing what they're arguing.
But the fact of the matter is that I would much rather I don't think that Biden would like if he could pick his choice here.
Would he want to have GDP contracting for two straight quarters?
Would he want to have the record high inflation numbers that we're having?
No.
I mean, no president wants this economy.
Hang on, man.
Let's just stop here for a second.
This is a con.
This is sleight of hand.
Never before have we said in a definition of a recession that somehow the jobs figures negate the recession's definition.
It is two quarters of shrinkage of the GDP.
This is word games, Matt!
Right.
It's totally word games, but again, it's all subjective anyway.
They can make the determination or they cannot make the determination.
At the end of the day, we are in a recession, and I would argue if we're not already in a depression, we're headed for it if these policies continue.
That's why this midterm election is so important.
This is why the upcoming 2024 presidential election is so important.
The American people can stop the pain that Joe Biden and Democrats across the board, it's the entire Democrat Party, it's not just him, So it's Kamala Harris, it's Nancy Pelosi, it's Chuck Schumer, it's Pete Buttigieg, it's all of them.
They're all doing it to you.
Every Democrat member of Congress, etc., is causing you pain, and frankly, some establishment Republicans too.
So the fact of the matter is that the American people can say enough of this when they get to the ballot box in November, and that's why these primaries are so important, that's why this upcoming election is so important, and then beyond that, the 2024 election is so important.
Now, let me ask you, somebody who's lived in the swamp, who follows the swamp, who's the bureau chief for Breitbart.
How much insulation, how much of a safety net does any of this give the Democrats?
When you just play with the definitions of words, does it really matter that they say, well, because of the jobs figures, this isn't a recession, when you're paying $120 to fill up your F-150?
I mean, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what they do to the definitions of words, does it, Matt, in an election year?
Almost, no, but I will say this.
Okay, so for the vast majority of Americans, if you look at the polling data, majorities across the board believe we are in a recession.
That's all the Republicans, basically, and most of the independents.
What they're doing by playing these word games is trying to hold on to their base, trying to hold on to Democrat voters.
You see Joe Biden in the low 30s in his approval rating.
When Joe Biden hits the mid-20s to the high teens, and that's coming, right, like if this doesn't turn around and it does, there's no indication that this is going to turn around, that's when he's in, you know, the Democrat Party faces an existential crisis, right?
Like, that's when you start seeing Democrats support impeachment, right?
Like, because this guy's reputation... Hang on, hang on, I gotta stop you there.
Yeah.
Are you telling me that this party that is based upon collectivism, that doesn't believe in the individual, that they will impeach their own president?
If that's their only way forward, yes they will, right?
But now look, you see them talking about it now, some of them openly, some of them on background quotes with the establishment media, where they're talking about how they want to get rid of Biden.
You see the polling data, there's polls out there that show majorities, like significant majorities.
We're talking like 75% of Democrats don't want Joe Biden to be their nominee in 2024.
And by the way, Biden's not going down without a fight, right?
He's going down swinging if he's going down, right?
I mean, this guy, the idea that they're going to be able to just easily push him aside and pick someone else, that's not going to happen.
So I think that if you continue down this pathway of economic pain and whatnot, that's when you start ending up in a really bad situation politically for the president.
That's when his own party really starts openly turning on him.
Look, you've got Nancy Pelosi right now talking about going to Taiwan of her own accord in contravention with the president and his administration.
Explain that to me.
I mean, seriously, what is that about?
She's the boss, right?
She's like, you know what, Joe?
I appreciate your input, but you know what?
I think I'm going to do what I'm going to do.
By the way, it's great that she's doing it.
I think it's fantastic.
I disagree with Nancy Pelosi on 99.9% of things.
But if she goes ahead and actually goes to Taiwan, that would be a big middle finger to China.
And that's a good thing, right?
But she's not the president, and that tells you, doesn't it?
Right, but that's the thing.
The president, the White House, and Secretary Blinken, the Biden administration as a whole does not want her to go.
I mean, they're the ones that probably, we don't know this for sure, but they're probably the ones that leaked it when she was considering going.
And there's big intraparty disagreements and fights between Democrats right now that are playing out.
Sometimes you see the fissures appear in public a little bit, but the big picture will start.
It will really go out there if Biden's numbers go low.
All right, he didn't get back on Twitter, but he is on Truth Social.
He's Matt Baugh.
He's gonna be with us for another segment, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
Make sure you stay on this channel.
Let's put Matt's truth social in the...
What's his truth social?
Real Matt Boyle.
Real Matt Boyle.
Not the fake Matt Boyle, the real Matt Boyle.
The real one.
The real one.
Perfect.
And just make sure it says truth social.
Yes.
Alrighty, mic's on, three and a half minutes.
All right, let's... What have I got here?
I'm going to tee up... Let me tee up... Fallon.
I'll tee up Fallon.
That's cut.
Four.
Four.
All right.
And then let me here... Cut 12.
The awful ideas, the woke indoctrination, the sensitivity training, the safe spaces, the assault on free speech, and every bad idea that is permeating our society originates from a college campus.
from men being able to become pregnant, this transgender stuff that's all across the country, from the Green New Deal to the assault on our core fundamental liberties, it all comes from a college campus.
Okay, and play me the Matt Ryan again, the Ned Ryan 11.
As for monkeypox, I think there's a pretty good rule in life.
Uh, don't attend gay orgies.
Uh, when you look at the New England Journal's report of the five... How about any orgies, Ned?
Ned, come on, man.
It's not about gay.
How about not saying any orgies?
Go look at the New England Journal's report that NBC News reported on, on Friday, in which of the 528 cases they reviewed, 95% were between, sex between men.
I think we actually have to have a serious conversation about where this is coming from.
When I'm done, Brad, you can talk.
Instead of going crazy and declaring a national pandemic when 3,000 people have it right now.
It's insane.
I don't know, man.
You don't have to be gay to get monkey pox.
And you don't have to be bigoted when you talk about treating something that is that easily spread.
It's not bigoted.
Yeah, it is.
This is science, Kennedy.
95% of the cases from the New England Journal have been reported.
I love that Palumbo had to say, it's not about being gay in the most flamboyantly gay voice possible.
Who else have we got in 1D today?
That's Lotta, right?
Oh, Lotta.
Okay.
Did you get that CNN cut?
No, but I'll have it by the time we're done.
What do you think is happening there, Geoff?
Was she scared?
Absolutely, 100%.
It's pathetic.
The big libertarian of Fox Business.
But Fox as a network, Dr. G, is the weakest it's ever been.
Weakest it's ever been.
Completely agree.
And there's no leadership there.
They're totally rudderless.
They have no vision.
There's some good people, don't get me wrong, like Tucker and Lara.
But Suzanne is so out of her depth.
It's a classic case of somebody who's, you know, the PETA principal, totally promoted out of her depth.
Yeah, it's just a mess.
It's never gonna be the same.
You said you'll tee up four.
I'll tee up four and then we'll go straight to Matt.
Okay.
Got a title of mine for the monologue?
Um, what was I talking about?
Um, you talked about... Oh, the recession.
Oh, the recession.
Word games.
Socialism.
Yeah, yeah.
Biden's Soviet word games.
Biden's Soviet word games.
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Let's continue the discussion of what's happening in the White House.
Has the worm turned?
Has Hollywood, has late night comedy turned against Biden?
Here's Jimmy Fallon being quite ruthless.
Cut four.
Even though he tested negative, not that much changes for Biden.
He still works from home, avoids crowds, and takes 20 pills a day.
That's right, Biden is COVID-free.
He even gave a quick speech from the White House Rose Garden.
Sounds like he's back to his old self.
Take a listen.
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Welcome back, Mr. President.
Welcome back.
Now, I know it's just a late-night comedy show, but I tend to think that's rather significant, don't you, Matt?
Yeah, look, I do think it's significant that you're seeing Hollywood, the media, the left, etc.
really start to question Biden.
However, they will go right back in line if Biden's numbers go up.
So the real test is going to be, can Biden turn this economy around?
It doesn't look like he's going to be able to, but that scenario that I was talking about there, where if Biden takes an even bigger dip off the back end here, he's in the low to mid-30s right now, depending on which polls you look at.
If he drops into the low to mid-20s, or even worse, into the teens or below, I mean, he'll always have a little bit of support out there, right?
He is the president.
But the point is that if he really starts dropping, that's when you're going to see the knives come out.
And that's what I'm talking about, about a major intraparty war.
Right now, it's a little bit of jostling, jockeying for position, etc., behind the scenes.
You know, things like Pelosi undercutting him by planning her own trip to Taiwan in contravention of what he wants, etc.
It gets worse if Biden's numbers go down.
We're gonna discuss all of that in the third hour today with your old boss Steve Bannon so guys you don't want to miss the one-on-one 5 to 6 p.m.
Eastern Steve's gonna be on the show but but you are the guy with with The connections.
You've said it many, many times, the years you've been on the show, that you'll talk to this Democrat staffer, this connection you have with the DNC.
What are you hearing right now?
That's just a late night TV show.
Are you hearing grumblings about Biden with your contacts?
Little bit, but again, it's all behind the scenes right now.
now the question is is it again get that original point here is that he's got to drop further before before they really start taking the knives out and you know you would see democrats supporting an impeachment or something like that so and then we got a ways to go we got a ways are they prepared to go with kamala i i i don't i don't know so i I don't know if she would be the one.
But how do they get rid of her?
By the way, here's a scenario that I've heard, and this is a very real possibility, is why not put forward Michelle Obama as the candidate in 2024?
Because she'd have to work!
Right, but the thing is that if you're going to get rid of a black woman, why not get rid of her with another better black woman?
But under what scenario?
somebody who wants to work.
Right.
Well, that's the thing.
She would actually have to work for it.
I don't know if she would do it, but Michelle Obama would hit rock star status immediately in the Democrat party.
But under what scenario?
How do you get rid of the vice president?
Well, Kamala, if you impeached Biden or he left office or he resigned or he died or something, I mean, Kamala would serve out the rest of his term, but then she would have to run for and win the Democrat nomination of her own accord in It's not like she would automatically get the day.
So they primary her out with a celebrity.
With a celebrity candidate like a Michelle Obama or an Oprah or something like that.
That's something I've heard.
I've heard it many, many times.
I don't buy it because, you know, Oprah and Michelle, they like sitting on their piles of cash.
The idea that they'd actually have to work for a living, I don't buy it.
But we shall see.
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Or you want the mic's off?
Uh, mic's off.
Off, okay.
So, switch number three.
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It's Thursday, so of course Antoinette is on the line already.
Brent's on the line.
We'll go to your calls momentarily.
But yesterday, I think we actually opened the show with him, my former White House colleague, Peter Navarro, who was the architect of the China policy of the Trump administration, who wrote a scathing article at American Greatness.
about what is putatively President Trump's think tank, the America First Policy Institute.
And he said, it's not really MAGA.
It's not America First.
One of the people he attacked on my show, who he didn't mention in the article, has been a friend of the show for years, former press secretary to the vice president.
And he said, well, listen to what Mark Lotter said on CNN.
And I said, yeah, we'll listen to it.
We'll invite Mark on the show.
So let's play the cut.
Play cut.
Keep playing it.
Keep playing it.
I want to hear the whole thing.
I don't care if there's no lip-sync.
Eric, don't do that.
Tuesday, do you believe that Trump lost the election?
I think there's no question.
Joe Biden is in the Oval Office.
They took the oath of office.
Keep playing it.
Keep playing it.
I want to hear the whole thing.
I don't care if there's no lip sync, Eric.
Don't do that.
Play it again.
Oh, that's the end?
Okay, so at the end, Mark Lodder said that the President won the election.
He is a friend of the show, so we want to have him on the show, and he's a brave man.
So, Mark Lodder, you are now the Chief Communications Officer at America First Policy Institute.
You reached out to us, allegedly heard the interview, so I want to give you, in front of three million people, your chance to respond or to rebut our former colleague Peter's accusations.
Well, and thanks for having me on, Seb.
You know, and look, I consider Peter a friend, a colleague.
I enjoyed working with him in the White House and when I was on the campaign.
And it really disappointed me.
And trust me, it took no joy.
And I took no joy when I had to put out a statement basically attacking him for what he was saying about the organization that I work for, the America First Policy Institute, because I did hold him in such high regard.
And I continue to hold him in high regard, even though we might have some disagreements.
But the one thing I need to make absolutely clear is, I mean, the America First Policy Institute is made up of the same people who were fighting in the trenches Along with Peter, on behalf of President Trump and the America First agenda.
We have nine former cabinet-level officials.
We have 18 White House senior staff, 40 senior administration officials.
And so, you know, President Trump wasn't someone to only surround himself by yes people, and you know that so well.
He wanted people to argue both sides of issues and there were people that took issues with some things and there were things where Peter disagreed with other folks but we were all fighting in the same direction and we still are fighting in the same direction and And, you know, we were proud to host the president here in Washington earlier this week for a two day summit as it related to the policy of the future moving forward, getting back to America first.
The president closed that event with a 90 minute speech.
And I think it showed his commitment to the work that we're doing to help lay the groundwork for a future America first leadership at the Statehouse, at Congress, all the way to the White House.
And as it relates to the CNN interview...
You know, that was a nine minute interview.
I'll talk about the CNN interview in a second.
I have to push back at this point because to say you've got X number of cabinet members or senior officials really means nothing when you have former cabinet members or senior officials who actively subverted the president.
People like General Kelly or Tillerson or others.
So the idea that you've got former people from the administration is really a nugatory point because there were people at the highest levels you know At the highest levels, who are sabotaging the president.
So, let's talk about... Hang on, let me... Let's talk about the CNN interview.
So, do you regret saying Biden won the election?
Could that have been praised differently?
What is your response now?
And I know what it's like.
You're under the lights, you're in the CNN enemy territory.
When he forced you, when this absolute joke of a non-journalist, Billy O'Jim Acosta says, did Biden win the election?
And you said he won it.
Is that what MAGA believes?
Well, as I said at the beginning of that clip that you played, you know, there's no question that Joe Biden is in the Oval Office right now.
Right.
Well, that's clear.
He's physically in it.
But did he win the election?
But there is also no question that there were irregularities, illegalities, and fraud in the 2020 election.
I mean, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, as you well know, Seb, ruled that the state exceeded their own legal authority in the use of ballot boxes.
There were states that loosened their signature match requirements.
Obviously, There were many kinds of safeguards, Zuckerbucks, all kinds of things that went into that election, which shouldn't have happened.
And now we are working at the America First Policy Institute, working with state legislatures.
To actually tighten election integrity so it can't happen again.
Like we like to say here, you know, we want to make it easy to vote, but impossible to cheat.
All right.
Let me give you some advice.
And I do this, you know, to somebody who was my colleague in the White House, who's been a supporter of this show.
And I do this as a friend.
And I'm going to give you some advice.
And maybe you can percolate through to AFPI.
It's not just one guy's opinion.
It's not just some crazy loose cannon like Peter Navarro.
AFPI needs to address this issue of do you believe or do key people like Bobby Jindal or Brooke Rawlins believe in Trumpism without Trump because that is the accusation and we're not trying to create some cult of personality but we have to understand that there is one man who deserves a second term and who can win so here is my message to everyone at AFPI many of whom are friends But some of whom didn't stand in the trenches with us shoulder to shoulder.
You, as AFPI, need to address this criticism that you are Trumpism without President Trump.
And maybe, I don't know, and I'm happy to host it, Mark, you could have a debate with Navarro here on our show.
Follow this man.
He is the Chief Communications Officer at the America First Policy Institute.
Mark with a C underscore.
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Out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
John, can you clear the call screen for me so I can see the calls?
Mr. G, was that pretty fair?
What do you think?
How did I treat Mark Lotto?
I liked it.
I thought it was fair.
It's good to have people on that.
You respect each other and disagree.
I would like to see it go a little bit longer.
Yeah, we needed a slightly longer segment there, but we have a hard out here.
We have a clock that has hard outs, but he acquitted himself quite well.
But we have callers waiting, and that's the most important part of the show.
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It's Thursday, which means it's Antoinette in California.
Welcome back, Antoinette.
Hey, Dr. G. Thank you so much.
Listen, I have a thought.
Everybody has a cell phone, and I am for the voiceless.
Throughout the United States, on your cell phone, put in there your location and what's the closest Planned Parenthood to you.
And I know a lot of people can't always go like we can right now.
Say a silent prayer as you go through those cities where that closest Planned Parenthood That was my food for thought because it is summertime.
I love it.
I love it.
You are a warrior for the voices, but that's a great idea.
Anybody can do that.
Just concentrate your mind, go to your phone, find the location of the nearest Planned Parenthood, and if you're passing it or even if you're not driving past it, say a prayer to help save the lives and to reach out to those young women, often scared women, who need guidance, who need to be touched by God.
And we have little bags that we'll give the girls if we're able to catch them as they drive out, with a little Bible and all the resources that can help them.
So just remember, you guys, the Planned Parenthood here in Orange County, California, Mondays and Fridays, 9 to 11 in the morning, at the Mission Viejo.
Thursdays at 9 to 11 on Santa Ana, in the morning at Planned Parenthood, and of course, our famous Sundays, Tuscan Orange.
10 in the morning till 2 now, because it gets a little warm.
Okay?
Thank you.
God bless.
We've got a minute left, and we're going to squeeze in Brent, also from California.
God's warrior, Gorka.
That's a bit too kind.
Carry on.
What's your comment?
What's your question, Brent?
Well, I wanted to reflect on last week's King David shooter, Alicia Dickin.
Who was righteous enough to shoot eight bullets, which God miraculously delivered on target to kill a demon in Indiana.
As with Kyle Rittenhouse, America witnessed a miracle if we are wise enough to see it.
It is no coincidence that this hero's name is Elisha, and in the Bible, Elisha was a well-known miracle worker who God sent armies of angels to protect from evil.
And we are again in an age of miracles, and President Trump is God's choice To deliver many more miracles to America.
But it's up to us.
It's up to us.
And that man is a warrior.
Eli Dickin and President Trump.
Nicely put, Brent.
Excellent staff.
This is America First's third hour.
Steve Bannon next hour.
Greg Jarrett and the woman who wrote the book on Hunter Biden, Miranda Devine.
stay on this channel.
Thank you.
Obama tore this country down.
No one stood up to him!
Nobody!
Because he was black!
You need to wake up!
My parents didn't teach me that I was a victim.
They can turn back voting rights.
Didn't nobody donate to us the right to vote.
Uncle Tom is somebody who has sold out by embracing the white man.
Uncle Tom.
Bedwin.
Bootlicker.
Black, white supremacist.
Chucking and jabbing.
House negro.
Coon.
Uncle Tom.
Coon.
Coon.
I have a Coon award over there.
Racist.
Racist.
Black people don't believe that other blacks can be independent, free thinkers.
I believe the legacy and the ancestry of black Americans is being insulted every single day.
I will not pretend to be a victim in this country.
I know that that makes many people on the left uncomfortable.
Racist.
Racism.
A thousand cuts of racism.
The liberal will try to control a black person through the concept of racism because they know that we are very proud emotional people.
I never felt that because I was black or I was poor or a woman that I couldn't do something.
I grew up being told of my disadvantages, that this country's unfair to black people.
The ideology is implanted into you subconsciously to believe these things.
It's like a cancerous plague in the mind of black Americans.
We're brainwashed to think, well, is it because I'm black?
America's not ours, so we got shipped here.
No, our blood is on this soil.
We own this, too.
There should be a pride that we have in the fact that this country was built by many great black men and women.
Are you trying to say that this country does not specialize in racism and bigotry?
So long as black people continue to have their psyche filled by that nonsense, we won't have an awakening.
You have the right to remain silent. - Anything you say will be used against you.
You are not listening!
I want your job to be taken from you.
A protest has turned violent at California, Berkeley.
This is why we're fighting for the soul of America.
You should be able to share ideas without fear of being fired from your job or shouted down.
You are not to be heard.
This is one of the few things one could say we have no precedent for in the United States.
You have the right to remain silent.
The only way we separate the good ideas from the bad ideas is to be free to say whatever we want about them.
Anything you say will be used against you.
There's no free speech for fascists.
Your posts on Facebook, Twitter, and social media will be safe to shame you.
Kevin Hart has stepped down from hosting this year's Oscars.
Anything you say that we don't like will be used to shut you up.
You're okay to go away to make this act to stand my head.
You can't be funny.
It's creating an atmosphere of fear and repression and it's gonna bust.
You cannot think differently.
It makes it difficult for you to learn from other people.
Isn't it spooky that we're having this discussion?
You can't challenge us.
Kids grew up dipped in Purell, playing soccer games where they never kept score.
There is no debate.
The type of diversity that they hate is diversity of thought.
We reserve the right to be offended by everything.
No university should ever create a safe space.
You're not going to protect people, and so the best you can do is to make them strong.
It bothers me for the young people who are being deprived of anything that could open their minds.
And it's her latest article in here.
Thank you.
Alright guys, don't forget, third hour, Steve and Kay Bannon for the whole hour.
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All right, so I have to... so little time, so little time, so many stories.
The man in the White House, Beijing Biden slow Joe.
I don't know what they pumped him full of, but we have got to show this clip.
This is Biden.
What's wrong with his eyes?
He didn't blink for 40 seconds.
Please, let's play that cut.
Dripping in blood, surrounded by carnage.
Face to face with crazed mobs that believe the lies of a defeated president.
The police were heroes that day.
Donald Trump lacked the courage to act.
The brave women and men in blue all across this nation should never forget that.
You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-cop.
You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-democracy.
You can't be pro-insurrection and pro-American.
There can be no greater responsibility He didn't blink for 40 seconds.
Every human being, on average, blinks every three seconds.
And he's lecturing us on what it means to be patriotic.
A Democrat is lecturing us on supporting the police.
He looked like his eyes had been super glued open.
So strange!
But that's just weird.
That's just creepy.
But this is a far, far more important clip.
This is from a while back.
This is from the Axios interview with the current incumbent of the White House being asked about his son's business arrangements.
Cut 9.
I don't know what he was doing.
I know he was on the board.
I found out he was on the board after he was on the board.
And that was it.
And there's nobody... Well, you've had a lot of time.
Isn't this something you want to get to the bottom of?
No, because I trust my son.
I knew nothing about his business dealings.
Let's dig a little bit deeper with a woman who literally wrote the book on the topic.
The laptop from hell.
Journalist.
Wife.
Mother.
I'm afraid she's removed the sci-fi lover from her Twitter bio.
Miranda Devine, welcome back to America First.
Hey, thank you.
I don't think I removed that from my bio, did I?
You did!
It's not here!
You've removed it!
OMG!
I'm gonna have to put it back.
You better!
That's definitely a mistake.
You've got room.
You've got room and it will drive my producer nuts who hates science fiction.
Just do it for that.
Do it for that.
Okay, Miranda, you've got a latest article in the New York Post.
Hunter Biden's business partner called Joe Biden the big guy in panicked message after Post's laptop story.
And we also know that he met Hunter Biden's business partners at least 14 times.
What kind of people are we talking about?
Are we talking about really nice businessmen, Miranda?
No, we're talking about shady Russian oligarchs.
We're talking about basically CCP members at the very top of the tree.
So Communist Party of China.
Exactly.
So these are not Ukrainian oligarchs.
Are we talking about billionaires, people with ill-gotten gains, or I think, what does Joe Biden call them?
Anyway, he calls them ill-gotten somethings, and he gets it all wrong.
Ill-gotten shenanigans, probably.
Malarkey.
Blarney.
Yes, so these are not nice people.
The money is obviously dirty money and they're not being paid.
Hunter Biden and Joe's brother Jim Biden, they're not being paid for any great qualities they have.
Let me just interrupt it.
These aren't individuals who had incredible business careers prior to Beijing and Moscow reaching out to them, correct?
No, not great business acumen or any expertise, but they're being given money specifically because these shady people are trying to curry favour and buy favours and influence from Joe Biden, who was then the Vice President.
And, you know, there is evidence with Ukraine that there was a quid pro quo that was worth a billion dollars to Ukraine, which was Joe Biden threatening to withhold a billion dollars in U.S. foreign aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor who just happened to be investigating Burisma, the corrupt energy company that was paying $100 million a year.
Right.
It seems to me, and look, I'm on the outside.
I haven't handled the laptops, but I've had enough people on the show, Rudy Giuliani and others, Steve Bannon, yourself, Emma Jo Morris, who worked with you at the New York Post, to blow up the original story.
But it seems to me, and tell me if I'm wrong, that It seems as if this Hunter Biden chap, there's no end to the corruption.
I mean, you wait another few days and there's another story.
And I don't just mean the whores and the crack cocaine and everything else.
I mean the real corruption with very, very shady individuals.
It seems like it beggars belief.
If you read this in a fictional novel, you'd say, yeah, I don't buy it.
It's too far fetched.
It's incredible.
It really is.
I mean, when I was writing, it was like a couple of times I'd have to push away from the desk because I could not believe the sort of high-level sort of geopolitical issues that Hunter Biden's crackhead and his bumbling Uncle Jim were right in the centre of.
You know, for instance, a huge, I think, $60 billion deal between China, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin for China to take over one of Russia's state-owned energy companies.
So that fell apart, thanks to the Trump administration coming in.
But that was going to be the biggest payday for the Biden.
And it just means today we had Joe Biden talking to Xi Jinping on the phone.
And the billions or millions, sorry, of dollars that have come to his family from China and Russia and Ukraine just make you think that this president has to be compromised.
And at the very least, there's the appearance of compromise, which is bad in itself.
And how can we trust that when he's talking to Xi Jinping, he has America's interests at the forefront?
Right, or just simply can't be blackmailed through his brother or his son.
On top of that, there seems to be just this incredible level of... I mean, they've made themselves as rich as Croesus because of their corruption, but they've made themselves... They just seem so stupid.
I mean, are you not surprised by the fact that this incredibly corrupt man who's a drug addict is filming himself With prostitutes, smoking crack, and then recording phone messages with his father, the vice president.
Are you sometimes shocked by how dumb these people are as well?
As well as corrupt?
Yeah, I mean, Joe is certainly dumb.
I think Hunter is smarter.
They're all grifters, the entire family.
That's the way Joe has set things up.
And I feel a little sorry for Hunter.
He obviously has psychological issues.
One being that he just doesn't feel that he's fully alive unless he's recording everything on film.
You know, all his Sexual exploits, every aspect of his life, his body, his drug taking is all recorded.
You know, he records conversations with friends that go on for hours where you can hear him smoking crack and drinking and his life was completely out of control.
But this is a guy who wanted to be an artist or an author and his father who had basically abandoned him As soon as his mother died in a car crash, went off for his big job that he'd just got in Washington and left the two kids behind.
I mean, Joe says all the time that he used to come home every night on Amtrak.
The kids were asleep by the time he got home, if he really did travel home every single night, which I doubt.
And you just know from Hunter's own words how screwed up he was as a child, how he really was left in the clutches of Dr. Jill, who wasn't too keen on him.
And that was a difficult relationship.
I find it hard to feel sorry for an individual who got $85,000 a month from one of the most corrupt companies in Ukraine.
But the book is The Laptop from Hell.
The author is Miranda Devine.
D-E-V-I-N-E.
You've got to follow her on Twitter.
Last minute with you, Miranda.
We keep every day hearing the, you know, he's in trouble, there's a grand jury.
I don't buy it.
What are your sources telling me or what is your gut telling you about Hunter Biden and justice in America?
Well two things.
One is it just seems that they're slow walking this decision past the midterms.
It'll be just you know I think in about a week it'll be 90 days until the midterms and then they can just say well well we don't want to have any political interference so we'll just wait.
I think that possibly what I'm hearing is that there was probably a plea deal with Hunter where he'll get a slap on the wrist Maybe they'll look at some tax issues.
You can see it being run through CNN and the New York Times.
They're saying, oh well, poor Hunter, you know, he was in the grips of a drug addiction and so he forgot to pay his taxes.
And he's already paid back, you know, two and a half million dollars worth or more which he so-called borrowed from his latest benefactor, a guy called Kevin Morris, a very rich lawyer in In L.A.
So I don't really think that he's going to face much justice, really.
Sad, but I think she's right.
She's been covering the story since the get-go.
God bless you, Miranda Devine.
Next up, her Fox colleague, who's going to give us his take, Greg Jarrett.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First.
wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
Don't you dare touch that dial.
No, she's gone. she's gone.
Why are stocks going up?
I couldn't tell you.
.
you you That's got to be temporary, right?
I don't know this guy, Geoff, but the name's familiar.
Can you check him out?
out and Jared's phone.
I did.
Okay.
Title for that one.
And also for Lauder.
Is there a problem with President Trump's, put in quote, President Trump's think tank?
Mm-hmm.
Thank you.
Okay, and Divine?
Um... The Biden clan, colon, they're all grifters.
Clan, they're all grifters.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Mic's on for Jarrett.
Alright, and then did you say he had an article in here?
Um, I'm not sure.
Geoff says no.
No?
Okay.
Oh, you said he wrote about Bannon on his website, right?
Right.
Garland and Bannon, yeah.
Garland and Bannon.
He's on the line now, two minutes.
All righty.
90 seconds.
Is he up?
Yeah, he's on.
Oh, good.
Craig.
Hey, Sebastian.
How are you?
Good.
It's been too long.
Can we talk about your latest piece on A.G.
Garland and Steve Bannon?
Absolutely.
No problem.
All right.
Fabulous.
All right.
60 seconds and we are live.
And of course, both of his books, Witch Hunt and Russia Hoax.
Yep.
Yep.
Alrighty.
Okay.
Been too long.
55 seconds.
Clips one ready, guy.
Not coming in with anything?
Uh, what have we got here?
This is B, so... Israel?
Israel.
Is there anything relevant?
Oh, I'll use Cassidy Hutchinson in the second segment with Greg.
Okay.
35 seconds.
Oh, the Jesse Waters.
Yeah.
Alrighty.
seconds.
Thank you.
in his little finger than CNN has on its entire network.
Sebastian Gorka.
Thank you kindly, deep voice Dave.
When is a recession not a recession?
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Greg Jarrett, welcome back to America First.
Seb, good to be with you as always.
All right, so before we get to the topic I want to discuss, your latest piece at your website, TheGregJarrett.com, just a common sense thing.
I mean, as somebody who's practiced the law, who's been in a court, this idea that we're not in a recession because we're just redefining it.
If there was a murder case and the defense said, this knife is not a knife because you need to cut tomatoes with a knife and nobody's cut tomatoes with a knife, would that wash in a court of law?
No, of course not.
And people are laughing at Joe Biden.
He's now, you know, trying to change the definition of recession.
All you have to do is look it up in the dictionary and it says recession is two consecutive negative quarters of GDP.
And every economist, except Paul Krugman now, Uh, has always defined it that way for decades.
And sure enough, we're in a recession because the numbers came out today at the second consecutive quarter of negative GDP.
And, you know, this was all Biden's fault.
He declared war on energy, which drove up energy prices, which drove up the price of everything.
And then he spent trillions of dollars, the net effect of over government spending.
And flooding the marketplace with dollars is that you drive up costs and inflation on everybody, and Americans are suffering as a consequence.
And now Biden, who on Monday said, oh, it's not going to be a recession.
Sure enough, today it is.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're going to increase government spending and taxes, which will only make it worse.
But thank you for that injection of common sense.
OK, your latest piece, The Brief, Merrick Garland trashes the Constitution with his elective prosecution of Steve Bannon.
That's a very strongly worded title there.
Explain.
We're going to have Steve on the show for a whole hour in the third hour today.
We'll ask him about how he fared in court and what his plans are.
But explain what you said about A.G.
Garland, please, Greg.
Well, he's ignoring the concept of equal protection under the law.
When you engage in selective prosecution, when you go after Republicans or Conservatives or people associated with Trump for alleged crimes, for which you do not prosecute the other side, Democrats and Liberals, that's selective prosecution.
And that's trashing the Constitution.
Pelosi's one-sided J6 committee accused Bannon of criminal contempt when he said, look, the President, President Trump, invoked executive privilege.
I can't talk to you.
So, of course, Congress referred the matter to Merrick Garland, who took his marching orders and promptly leveled charges against Bannon for crimes The Democrats are never prosecuted.
Remember Eric Holder?
He did the exact same thing.
Was he prosecuted?
Of course not.
James Clapper lied to Congress.
Was he ever prosecuted for perjury, as he should have been?
Of course he wasn't.
The list goes on and on.
You know, if you're a Republican, they'll go after you with a vengeance in the Garland-Biden administration.
I've just retweeted the article.
It is now at the top of my Twitter feed.
Seb Gorka.
Let's talk about the mechanics of this.
So he's been found guilty.
It was like a whirlwind.
He's probably going to appeal it, I presume.
But if the argument is selective prosecution, How does it work now, especially in a city that voted 93, 92% for Hillary and for Biden?
Can his lawyers point at cases like Eric Holder and say, look, you didn't do it for him, why are you doing it for me?
Is he allowed to reference other cases?
What is Bannon's option right now?
Well, he can do whatever he wants on appeal.
And in fact, yesterday, in a hearing before the trial judge, the judge said, I will now entertain Mr. Bannon and your counsel a motion to dismiss.
And one of the grounds is that Bannon subpoenaed the J6 committee members who had subpoenaed him.
Look, under the Sixth Amendment, you're allowed to confront your accusers.
But when he subpoenaed people like Bernie Thompson, who's the chairman of the committee, and all of the other committee members, including Liz Cheney, they flipped in the middle finger and refused to testify.
Well, that's a violation of the Sixth Amendment.
And the judge should have enforced the subpoena.
I think the judge is now having second thoughts and is now entertaining a motion to dismiss.
Even if Bannon doesn't win that motion, he has a very strong case getting the conviction tossed out on appeal on that and other grounds.
But what about the argument that if you're a known Republican And we saw this with the recent case of the Clinton lawyer, the Sussman lawyer, who, you know, clearly the evidence was transparent.
He lied to the FBI.
If you're a Republican, if you're a Democrat, you'll walk for these issues.
If you're a Republican in D.C., you'll never get a fair trial.
Shouldn't all of these cases be held outside of the jurisdiction that hates Republicans?
Yes, and it's a ground for appeal.
Selective prosecution, you're violating my right under the 14th Amendment to equal protection.
And you're right, Seb.
I mean, Garland knew this would be an easy conviction to ban, and the game sticks.
D.C.
jurors hate Donald Trump.
92% voted for Biden in the last election.
A scant 5% ballots for Trump.
Washington jurors who reside there are hyper-politicized, and so that's another argument you can make.
You cannot get a fair trial in Washington, D.C.
in a case with political overtones, and this certainly was.
If you're a Democrat, you get acquitted.
It's a sure thing.
Greg Craig, Michael Sussman, as you mentioned, Seth.
If you're a Republican, you know, bring your toothbrush, your head to the who's cow, Just ask Roger Stone or Paul Manafort.
Yeah.
The article is at the top of my feed.
His Twitter feed is Greg Jarrett.
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The website is TheGregJarrett.com.
The seminal works are The Russia Hoax and Witch Hunt.
More from our friend in a moment.
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All right, I'm sending you somebody that Victoria Sparks recommended. - I did.
It's a colonel who's talking about Ukraine.
I'm going to send you his account.
Will you check him out, Jeff?
Three and a half minutes.
How do I do this?
Can I share an account?
I'll just do a screenshot.
I think we're getting him back.
Great.
Three minutes.
He's back on.
All right.
I'm going to play a cut from Jesse Waters about Cassidy Hutchinson, and then we'll talk about the J6.
OK, Greg?
Yeah, that'd be fine.
Okay, good.
Is there something else you'd like to talk about?
No, no.
Those are good subjects.
Good, good, good.
I want your professional opinion about that witch hunt.
Jeff, did you hear me?
Thank you.
What's that?
I sent you a Twitter account.
I know nothing about him.
Congresswoman Spatz just connected us.
See if he's okay.
We have over 1,100 viewers on Rumble right now.
Of course, because of Steve.
They just tried to call me from Bannon's show.
Why are they calling my... They're on the Eastern Time Zone, aren't they?
No, no, but they're testing my account.
They should be testing our Skype account.
Yeah, I texted it to you, right?
You did, you did, you did.
Yes, yeah, let me make sure it's spelled right.
Yeah, that's spelled right.
Just making sure.
We can't really test it now.
No, not now.
We gotta change the settings and flip it back so quick in a break.
Because we're on a break.
We just did an hour test with it yesterday.
It's the same thing.
Yeah, but they're asking again.
Once we hit that top of the hour, then absolutely.
But, uh, yeah, it's a little tight.
A little over 90 seconds.
All right, 70 seconds, Greg.
So you want to tee up this Jesse cut?
I'll tee it up, yep.
Yep, let's cut five.
I'm gonna do merch first, and then I'll tee it up.
Oh, Eric, can you reach out to, do you know how to contact Randy?
I have his email, yeah.
Because I don't want that three-peat hat image that he sent you or sent us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
For some reason, I thought I had them loaded in this machine, and then I didn't, and now I do, so here's the one of the three of them side-by-side.
You don't have them on the girls?
Yes, yeah.
Good.
Use both of those.
Alrighty.
Okay.
Fifty seconds.
45.
Is the line better, Jeff?
Yes.
Okay.
It's a nice tan jacket Greg's wearing.
Gold tie, yeah, it looks great.
All right, 30 seconds.
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We are back with the remarkable The individual we trust with our legal and political analysis.
From Fox News, Greg Jarrett.
Greg, got to play you this fun little clip from your colleague, Jesse Waters, talking about the erstwhile star witness of the January 6th Star Chamber, Cassidy Hutchinson!
Cut five.
We're learning even more about this so-called star witness.
According to new messages obtained by The Federalist, before Hutchinson testified, she called the committee phony and blasted Republicans Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger as a crop of losers.
But then when Hutchinson found out she might have to pay for a lawyer, she ran right into the arms of a Democratic law firm, who set her up nicely.
And now she doesn't ever have to pay for another drink in Washington again.
Cassidy's like the new Alexander Vindman, except much better looking.
You'll see her on CNN for at least a year, and she'll probably get a book deal.
This is the woman who told us with a straight face that President Trump, from the back of the beast with his 30 foot long arms, grabbed the steering wheel.
Greg, if that's your star witness, you've probably got a problem, don't you?
Oh, you have an immense problem.
But, you know, Pelosi knew there would be problems, which is why she deliberately violated her own House rules when she rejected the Republican-appointed members and chose her own.
She rendered the committee illegitimate from the outset, and just about everything that's been produced has, as a consequence, including Hutchinson, been illegitimate.
I mean, just think back at her testimony.
There was nobody there to challenge her, and so wait a minute, didn't you call this committee illegitimate?
Weren't you the one who was desperate to try to get a job down in Mar-a-Lago at the end of the Trump presidency?
Isn't it true that you weren't inside that SUV?
So you don't really know what happened, thus rendering what you just told this committee suspect.
Isn't it true that you were simply eavesdropping from a distance on conversations in which you weren't a participant?
You know, this committee loves to show you at the conclusion of every hearing that this evidence is undisputed.
Well, there's nobody there to dispute it!
And, you know, most Americans are smart.
They realize this.
This whole thing has been produced by, you know, an ex-network producer with highly slick videos.
It's not fair, not neutral, not impartial, and that's what investigations in Congress are supposed to be.
In terms of, you know, tying Trump to any crime, they've utterly failed to do so.
I have to ask you the big question.
Will it blow back on Nancy and the Democrats?
What do you think the end result of these hearings?
Because allegedly they're going to start again in September, Greg.
Yeah, of course they will.
Look, they can try all they want.
I think what's going to happen in the midterm elections is already built into the electorate.
They care most about the economy.
They care most about inflation.
To them, this is a science show.
The vast majority of Americans aren't watching this thing.
The committee loves to tout their tremendous prime time numbers, but the truth of the matter is it's not really going to affect voters.
They care about what affects them the most, their wallets, their inability to pay for a tank of gas and to buy groceries to put food on the table.
That's what they care about.
In 90 days, I don't think they'll be thinking about the Chewbacca Shaman or Cassidy Hutchinson.
In the meantime, keep yourself educated on matters political and legal.
The website is TheGregJarrett.com.
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At the end?
Yeah, kind of faded in and then out.
Yeah, I messed up.
I was doing it like it was 30.
Title for that?
He's always very reliable, isn't he, Greg?
Oh, yeah.
He's so calm about it all, too.
Although we've managed to get him a bit riled.
There's a couple of things he's got riled about.
But you get anybody else talking about the literal, like, end of our republic and he's just kind of like okay here's the facts of how they're destroying our republic why the j6 committee will um will boomerang on nancy Backfire or boomerang?
I think boomerang's fun.
Yeah.
Backfire is kind of cliche.
All righty.
Nance is back. - Oh, look.
No, did you see who tweeted?
Oh my gosh, then pitch it.
Pitch it.
What's up?
Oh.
Thank you.
And that's not a good sign, that was only a day of tweets.
Usually takes me a couple months to find.
Yeah, right!
Let me tell, uh... Oh, no, Spots doesn't even... I've got 90 seconds.
- Okay. - Do you want the phones open here?
Uh, no.
Gotta, gotta talk, um, Ned Ryan.
What else?
Oh, AOC!
Ned's coming on the show tomorrow, Jim.
Oh, cool.
Oh, nice.
Which, uh, which clip do you want to do first?
Ryan or AOC?
Um... AOC.
Too good.
That's cut seven.
I love when she questions people.
Reclaiming my time!
She's so bad at it.
Reclaiming my time.
She has no business being in Congress.
You know she always wanted to be a social media influencer.
That's not how it works.
No business.
But the voice is so different when she questions, too.
Oh, really?
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, she tries to sound professional.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's so many things that she screws up in there.
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Do you know what a Valknut is?
Let's do a little survey of the team.
Eric, do you know what a Valknut is?
Uh, the only thing else that might have something to do with Valkyries and tying knots, I don't know.
That's not bad!
That's not bad!
Uh, Geoff, do you know what a Valknut is?
Only because I saw this today and then I googled it to try to find out.
Right, so before today you didn't know what it is.
I had no idea.
Okay, Guy, do you know what a Valknut is?
I need to do research on this.
I'll do it for you.
Don't worry.
I just want to know if you know what it is.
John, do you know what a Valknut is?
I have no idea.
All right.
Class is in session.
Class is in session.
But let's begin with that amazing teacher, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Let's see if she can educate us.
So this is a hearing.
What was this yesterday, Jeff, for this hearing?
Yesterday.
Okay, those poor, I don't know why they did this, gun manufacturers.
You know, great companies like Ruger.
I mean, historic companies.
Companies like Daniel Defense with amazing reputations.
I love my Mark 18 Daniel Defense AR.
It is hot, especially when I fire a lot around through my suppressor.
And the head of Daniel Defense was being interrogated by that amazing historian of Norse culture.
AOC, play cut.
It's on.
Okay, perfect.
Uh, Mr. Daniel, you are CEO of, uh, firearm manufacturer Daniel Defense.
This photograph is from an advertisement, uh, featured, um, for your company.
Do you know... I'd like to draw your attention to that red tattoo featured in your company's advertisement.
Do you know what that tattoo is?
Mr. Daniel?
Madam Congresswoman, I'm not sure this is our ad.
Can you show the whole ad?
Is this our ad or someone else's?
Yes, this is your ad, Mr. Daniel.
This is an advertisement for your company, Daniel Defense.
Why is my brand name not in the photo?
No worries, no worries.
So this is featured prominently in your advertisement, that tattoo.
You've indicated you don't know what it is, but Ms.
Sampson, as an expert in this area, can you briefly tell us what that tattoo is?
That's a fall knot, and it's a symbol that has been increasingly embraced by white supremacists.
So, Mr. Daniel, you may or may not know, but your company's advertisement prominently displays iconography associated with white supremacist movements.
You can also find it in this other photo that I will be pulling up right now.
Right there, from January 6th, you can see the fall knot right there on this gentleman's chest.
Mr. Daniel, yes or no, are you aware that your advertising department uses imagery affiliated with white supremacist movements in its marketing materials?
No, ma'am.
I don't think we do.
I'm proclaiming my time.
Thank you.
If you're going to ask a question, you might as well let the guy answer.
Uh, for those of you who are listening and not watching, the first photograph was a grainy, grainy image of somebody firing a rifle with some kind of blurred tattoo under their elbow that was supposed to denote they're a Nazi, and the second photograph Was Chewbacca!
Yes, the shaman!
From January the 6th with a tattoo.
You know, he's festooned with tattoos.
He's got his, you know, chest out there and his, you know, bison hat.
And he had four interlocked triangles.
That is what a Valknut is.
It is written V-A-L-K-N-U-T.
And the Democrat experts said, it is increasingly associated with white supremacists.
Hmm.
Let's look at what it is.
And I'm using Wikipedia, which is garbage, because I want to prove to you even the garbage propaganda site says something a little bit different.
The Valknut is a symbol consisting of three interlocked triangles.
It appears on a variety of objects from the archaeological record of the ancient Germanic period.
The term Wagnut is a modern development.
It is not known what term or terms were used to refer to the symbol historically.
Scholars have proposed a variety of explanations for the symbol, some associated with the god Odin.
And it has been compared to the three-horned symbol found on the 9th century Snöldebril stone, which it may be related to.
I jump to the section on modern popular culture.
The symbol is used for a variety of purposes in modern popular culture.
The Valknut symbol is used as a religious symbol by the adherents of heathenry.
Yeah, you heard me right.
Heathenry, a new religious movement inspired by German paganism.
In Europe, the Swedish forest products company Svenska Cellulosa Aktienbolaget uses the symbol as their logo.
So, Swedes making furniture use the logo.
I mean, that's it.
I mean, that is it.
That is white supremacy.
The pagans of the heathenry religion and the Svenska Cellulosa Aktenbolagat, when they're making furniture, they use the logo too.
But, Jeff, it's the voice, isn't it?
It's the voice with which AOC delivers that just... I mean, that's it.
It's white supremacy gun makers.
I love when she questions people.
It's my favorite thing.
It's like the class president trying to act like an adult.
Right.
Does everybody now understand what the Valknut is?
I do hope so.
I've tried my best.
I didn't want to make it too grad school-y, but at the end of the day, it's a clown show.
It is an utter clown show.
Nothing you heard was true.
None of it.
The idea that gun manufacturers are sitting in their closed boardroom saying, okay, Find some white supremacist signal and just smuggle it into one of our ads because that way we're gonna have an insurrection on January 6th!
That's how we do it guys!
They live in a fantasy universe and I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't trying to destroy America.
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Can you play me cut six?
Back to the end now, Guy.
All right, playback one, give it his own.
We are going to do, through Florida State Pension System, a flat ban on any type of ESG.
And as you say, they like to wiggle around.
It's basically a way for them to do politics.
So we're going to make sure that that fiduciary duty is defined very clearly and that they stick to that.
We're also want to provide protections for people in the financial marketplace from being discriminated against based on ideology.
I mean, we've seen Wall Street banks discriminate against contractors who are involved in helping us against illegal immigration or against firearm manufacturers, things they don't like.
So the upshot of all this, Tucker, is we want to stop these kind of masters of the universe from trying to do through economic power what they cannot achieve at the ballot box.
And it's really an end run around democracy, where they're trying to impose these things.
And here in Florida, I want to be governed by the values of Destin, not the values of Davos.
That was the end of it.
Such a cheap shot.
Because they're going to have, be able to monitor one person.
No, no, no, hang on.
Jeff, don't you understand that Florida will stop Davos?
Don't you get it?
The governor of Florida will stop Davos.
They're going to monitor all the transactions that are made in the Florida pension fund.
Do not underestimate, Seb, the power of the Florida man.
Is that like Maga Man but with a better suntan?
Just Google search Florida Man.
It's a pretty funny Twitter account.
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You've heard about monkeypox.
There's a problem with monkeypox.
95% of the people who catch it are homosexual men, and the source of it is three homosexual raves or orgies in Europe.
This isn't Dr. G. This is the facts of the matter.
These are medical journals.
These are statistics.
But apparently, you're not allowed to say that on Fox News.
This is Kennedy.
She has only one name, apparently.
from Fox Business who had our buddy Ned Ryan on her show and she didn't like the facts of medicine.
Cut 11.
As for monkey pox I think there's a pretty good rule in life uh don't attend gay orgies uh when you look at the New England Journal's report of the five... How about any orgies, Ned?
Ned, come on man.
It's not about gay.
How about not any orgies?
Go look at the New England Journal's report that NBC News reported on on Friday, in which of the 528 cases they reviewed, 95% were between sex between men.
I think we actually have to have a serious conversation about where this is coming from.
When I'm done, Brad, you can talk.
Instead of going crazy and declaring a national pandemic when 3,000 people have it right now, it's insane.
I don't know, man.
You don't have to be gay to get monkey pox, and you don't have to be bigoted when you talk about treating something that is that easily spread, Marie.
It's not bigoted.
Yeah, it is.
This is science, Kennedy.
95% of the cases from the New England Journal have been reported.
You don't have to be bigoted?
Kennedy, Kennedy, Kennedy.
Really? 95%?
Of the people with monkeypox are gay.
Are homosexual men.
How is pointing that out, the stats from the New England Journal of Medicine, how's that bigoted, Kennedy?
I thought you were better than that.
Well, I think, aren't we having Ned Ryan on the show tomorrow, Jeff?
We are.
Third hour.
Perfect!
We can continue the discussion.
Oh dear, dear, dear Fox News.
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We love Miranda.
You know, the good guys are still there.
Gotthold and the others.
But as a corporation, so sad.
Up next, the one, the only, Steve Bannon.
Stay on this channel. Stay on this channel.
Stay on this channel.
Let me say it again.
The 2020 election was the most secure election in American history.
Let me begin by asking a very simple question.
Do we know the truth about what really happened in the 2020 election?
I think millions of Americans know something went wrong, and they have little pieces, and no one's really put it together.
I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
If I believed the president were a Nazi, I might steal an election.
Bold accusations require bold evidence, and they haven't seen it.
We have been working on something big.
Show me the money.
Can we meet?
I've been working with Greg Phillips.
He has a deep background in election intelligence.
True The Vote has the largest store of election intelligence for the 2020 elections in the world.
No one has more data than we do.
We identified in Atlanta 242 mules that went to an average of 24 drop boxes.
But Philadelphia alone, we've identified more than 1,100 mules.
What is a mule?
A person picking up ballots and running them to the drop boxes.
This is not grandma out walking her dog.
Bad backgrounds, bad reputations.
They are interested in one thing, that's money.
And in no shape, in no way, in no time is that legal.
This is organized crime.
Do you have video evidence?
Four million minutes of surveillance video around the country.
What you're about to see is disturbing.
So this is 1 o'clock in the morning.
Don't we all vote at 1 o'clock in the morning?
One night, this person, this mule, went across six counties to 27 different drop boxes.
I call it the Mexican Mafia, seriously.
Because they work like that.
This is jaw-dropping.
What you showed is frightening.
It's just sickening to me.
Now we come to the most important question of all.
Was the magnitude of vote trafficking enough to tip the balance in the 2020 presidential election?
It's not a leap to say this would have made a difference.
They have ruined election day in the United States of America.
That's provable.
And that's enough for me to fight the left with every fiber in my body.
Without free and fair elections, we are not a democracy.
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Because he's going to continue to press his agenda.
And as economic conditions get better, as more jobs get better, they're going to continue to fight.
If you think they're going to give you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken.
Every day.
Every day it is going to be a fight.
And that is what I'm proudest about Donald Trump.
All the opportunities he had to waver off this.
All the people who have come to him and said, oh, you've got to moderate.
Every day in the Oval Office, he tells Reince and I, I committed this to the American people, I promised this when I ran, and I'm going to deliver on this.
It's always a good idea to put your interview subject into a good mood before you start the interview.
And it's an especially good idea when the clip puts the host of the show in a good mood, and that one does.
That was the man we informally behind closed doors called the Honey Badger, Steve Bannon, former chief strategist of President Trump at CPAC 2017.
And Mr. War Room is with us now.
Steve Bannon, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
Always glad to be here.
All right.
We could speak for hours.
You're doing an incredible job on War Room.
I've got a long list of stuff I want to ask you, my team is asking me to ask you.
But first, I need the latest update from you.
They are coming after you hard and heavy.
How are you doing, Steve?
And how are you feeling about taking your fight to the next level for contempt of Congress?
All Americans should be held in contempt of Congress because that's what they deserve.
But give us the truth.
Well, no, look, it's a part of a process.
Everybody's under pressure.
They're coming after everybody.
I mean, Washington Post announced the other day that their, you know, Justice Department's looking at President Trump.
If you're going to stand up for your country now, When patriots need to stand up, they're going to come for you.
They're going to come for you through lawfare.
They're going to come for you through physical violence.
I just got swatted a couple of weeks ago.
Very dangerous situation.
100 officers out front with weapons drawn.
And I get threats all the time, but everybody does.
If you're going to do this, You got to commit to do it.
And like I said, it is what it is.
We're all about victory.
As you know, when you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna.
And that's all I'm focused on.
Everything else, everything they're coming at me is noise.
I've got great lawyers.
We're obviously going to win on appeal.
But it's just part of a process.
I appreciate everybody's support.
But I would tell people don't spend a second Talking about, focusing on looking at Steve Bannon's contempt charge.
We have much more important work ahead of us to make sure we win sweeping victories from school boards all the way up to the Senate in the House in just over 100 days.
And so that's the work that's before us.
But if you look at this witch hunt, this literal show trial on Capitol Hill, at the end of the day, you agree with me, Steve, with me Steve I'm sure that they will be forwarding criminal referrals for indictment to the Garland DOJ against President Trump correct I think they're gonna try to come up with something I think even they realize it may blow back on them.
Look, it's obviously a witch hunt on President Trump.
I think it hurts them politically.
This thing hasn't gotten a lot of traction.
It has among the MSNBC crowd, but independents aren't different to it.
It's really galvanized Republicans the opposite way.
So I think it's a waste of time for them.
They may try to do it.
Remember, they have no bounds.
One thing I think is important for your audience, Seb, is that there's going to be, and there needs to be, For the nation.
A real investigation into January 6th and everything around it.
And that will start in January after a sweeping victory in the House.
And banks will co-chair it or chair it.
And there'll be a real select committee.
You'll have a minority ranking member, right?
And you'll have minority counsel.
It'll be structured like committees have been in the past, where you have to play by the rules.
They get the ability to look at evidence, cross-examine witnesses, and really have an investigation.
And that investigation will go back to The run-up to November 3rd, what was done by the Mark Elias groups and all these groups about how they stole the election, it'll get down to adjudicate, you know, January 3rd—or, excuse me, 3 November—the November election in 2020, and look at all that, and look at all the different states, particularly the battleground states, and look at exactly what happened.
In addition, look at all the intelligence reporting running up to January 6th.
It'll get into what the FBI knew, what FBI assets out there.
Obviously, Ashley Babbitt.
All the carnage that was there, who was involved in it, the 14,000 hours.
There'll be a real investigation.
It'll take many months, and I think it will shock the American people.
And this show trial will just kind of — it's very ephemeral, and it'll just blow, you know, like dust in the wind.
It'll be irrelevant and forgotten, and people will focus on the real investigation.
But there's a real investigation ahead of us.
I had Matt Gaetz on the show recently with MTG, Steve, and he painted this lovely picture of, yes, we win the midterms, and then he said, every committee of Congress will be turned into an investigatory committee, and we will have oversight and subpoenas.
And I thought about it for a second, Steve, and I thought, hmm, yeah, exciting, I like that.
And then I realized, I don't give a damn.
I couldn't care less.
I'm not interested in congressional subpoenas or contempt of Congress.
I want people charged for crimes.
If you look at the border, if you look at Mayorkas, if you look at Fentanyl, I want people charged for complicity in aiding and abetting the cartels.
I want people in the brig.
As a former officer of the U.S.
Navy, the fact that nobody has been fired, let alone resigned or put in the brig for Afghanistan, is it enough to say, oh, let Congress do its work because, oh, we'll have another IG report?
Aren't we beyond congressional subpoenas and IG reports, Steve?
We are 100%, but I think you have to look at the process.
I mean, if we took over the executive branch immediately, those things will come.
That's in 2024.
I think we have to look at—the way I look at it is that after we win these sweeping victories, Seb, the next two years, 2023 and 2024, are like a preamble to a presidency, a preamble to a restoration.
That will be intense investigations and sending over criminal referrals to the Justice Department, many of which they're not going to execute on.
We know that, but that's what we put more pressure on.
But then, when we take over in 2024, this is one of those whole issues you see on Axios, where we're talking about the deconstruction of the administrative state.
From that opening segment of yours, remember, I was there to talk about the three things, national security, economic nationalism, deconstruction of the administrative state, the three lines of work Of the Trump administration.
And that's what you're going to see in the next—in the second term, his third victory, but the second term.
But we need a preamble to that.
And I think what we need to do is congressional—not just oversight, but real investigations.
Also, Seb, we've got to lay the predicate for the impeachment of Biden.
Biden's going to be impeached.
Two things are going to happen.
Number one, we are going to decertify those electors.
In Wisconsin and Arizona, we're going to do that in a formal legal process.
That will also start, we'll exacerbate that starting in January, but then the impeachment will start after we've done the investigations of Fauci, after you've done the investigations of the laptop from hell, after you've done the investigations of the invasion on the southern border, and also January 6th.
So all that's to come, but that work, we can't just forego it for the simple reason we don't, we can't charge, do real criminal charges out of the Justice Department.
That day's coming, but we gotta work on it.
But here's my question to you, and I ask this of every MAGA politician who comes on my show, guys and gals who come on your show.
I use that old Cold War phrase you're very familiar with, the correlation of forces.
What is the balance of power?
What is the correlation of forces between the MAGA America First political class And the rhino GOP swamp.
None of what you have described happens if the old school controls the levers of power.
Matt Gaetz, everybody else, MTG, their junior congressman.
Will we see a GOP with testicular fortitude after November?
This is going to depend.
By the way, these primaries next Tuesday are going to give us a good indication that this is basically where Donald Trump's going to have to put his shoulder to the wheel.
I happen to believe he's going to announce relatively shortly.
Yes.
But he's the one that's driving the driving energy of this.
He's the one that's delivering the votes.
And I will tell you, and I'm very blunt to the people around him, people are fed up.
They want to see action, action, action.
We don't have the ability now to put in a bunch of establishment, uniparty Republicans and just play the game like it's always been played.
There has to be a different philosophy.
That's why I think the Axios stories Over the last week, this two-part series by Jonathan Swan talks about the Deconstruction of the Administrative State.
The 4,000 political appointees will be the shock troops.
As you know, you remember, Seb, because you worked on and oversaw some of the beachhead teams, some of the landing teams to get into the departments.
We have to do that immediately.
And so, no, this is going to require action.
And a lot of that's going to come.
President Trump has got to be very focused on this.
I would tell you that over the last couple of days at the America First Policy Institute, I was not heartened By some of the policies I saw being put forward.
I think this needs to be a real tight, highly focused, and shoulder to the wheel.
And it's got to come with action.
And that's going to depend on who President Trump supports to be Speaker of the House.
It's going to depend on who wins these Senate primaries over the next couple of weeks, because Mitch McConnell could have six or seven senators, and they're young senators, who don't support him as leader.
So this is all going to come down, and I agree with you 1,000%.
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Our good buddy Dan Bongino had President Trump on his show recently and I'm so glad he raised this issue.
Let's play the cut.
Dan Bongino, couple of days ago.
Cut to.
Most important thing is personnel, because without the right personnel—and what people don't talk about and don't really understand, but maybe they do—I had great people, but I also had some bad ones.
You know, you take recommendations.
People that, in some cases, were rhinos, and rhinos that you didn't know were rhinos, or people that I wouldn't have agreed politically with certain things, but were taking recommendations from people that I knew in Washington.
And that maybe I respected, but maybe in the end didn't.
And you put some of those people in and they didn't do the job.
I think that is the audio cut of the age.
This has been my issue for the last four years, Steve.
The bench, the bench, the bench.
You know it better than anyone.
I use this phrase.
You and I were interviewed for Frontline for hours.
They stole my phrase.
They didn't use any of the interview.
We were an insurrection.
We were a band of merry men when we walked into the White House, and there were less than 20 of us in senior positions like you, me, Navarro, who got it, who understood the will of the people, and were there to execute the mission.
The rest were the schlep, the rhinos that Reince and others brought in.
I am still massively concerned that we haven't built a real bench.
And then you have that scorching piece from Peter Navarro just two days ago in American Greatness saying, Mr. President, don't give a speech at the America First Policy Institute because they're not your guys.
They're never Trumpers or rhinos and they're using your good name.
What can you do?
We've got three million listeners right now across the nation.
Are you Concerned?
Are you comforted that work is happening?
Is the Axios piece a good thing?
Give us your take of are we building the requisite bench Steve Bannon?
We're building the team don't get me wrong we are building the bench that being said there's still a lot of and when President Trump says I had some good people and not so good people he had a lot of people that just worked against absolutely against his his policies look at the look at the January 6th Look at the people around him that are not just testifying, but actually throwing out narrative, false narrative, that you need to look no farther than that.
Look at the America First policy.
I don't remember his name, but the comms director, a Pence guy, was on CNN on Sunday and said President Trump lost.
It was just good people and neutral people, not great people.
We could live with that.
You have really good people, and then you've got people that work against his agenda.
And you have to understand, I think it's very important for people to understand this agenda is quite different than the Republican Party agenda.
MAGA is very different.
And remember, Jody Ernst is sitting up there talking about, at the America First Policy Institute, breaking the Russian military and driving it back into Russia, right?
Like Napoleon, we're going to just back it up all the way to Moscow.
You see these non-America First policies.
You see these non-MAGA policies.
So no, it's a struggle.
It's an issue.
But how do you see it?
Take a snapshot right now as a guy who's, you know, worked on naval vessels, who's worked in the Pentagon.
Are we traveling at the requisite speed to build the bench we need in two years' time?
I think yes, in two years' time, but you've got to cut out a lot of the underbrush.
Okay.
Yes, in two years' time, and that's what I think what's going to happen, and that's why we have this two-year preamble with taking over the house.
You're going to have a lot of people on these staffs up on the hill.
We're going to basically make sure we staff that up.
With MAGA and with America First, those people are going to get trained up on what to look for, as what Gates talks about, as every committee, an oversight committee.
When you're an oversight committee, you really understand how the budget works, how the process works, how OMB works, how these departments, how the administrative state actually works.
They're going to be some of the trained up people ready to go into the executive branch, into the apparatus.
Remember, As you said, Seb, we were—to come from behind victory in 16, it was a small band of people, and we had to reach out to establishment types.
And quite frankly, you know, some of President Trump's picks of the progressive Democrats—his son-in-law, Gary Cohen, other progressive Democrats—didn't exactly work out over time.
So, I think he's learned a lot.
I think his learning curve is up.
And I don't think we're going to be making those type of fundamental mistakes in the second term now.
That being said, I'm a big believer that some of these institutions and organizations have built up, have people that don't have Trump's back and are quite open about what they tweeted before, what they say in media.
And to me, it's right now, they got to go.
I'm not in the business of converting them.
They know Trump policies well enough.
If you're not with the program, you got to be out of the program.
And I think we got to be tougher about that.
But I will say this, Let's look at the other bench, the other side.
I know you're a big fan of the fourth turning.
You understand geopolitics, geostrategy.
I tell people it will get worse.
Yeah.
Why?
Let's look at the other bench, the other side.
I know you're a big fan of the fourth turning.
You understand geopolitics, geostrategy.
I tell people it will get worse.
Why?
Because I look at who's inside the building now.
Nobody inside the building knows how to fix things in the real world.
They are so detached from reality that there is no way the economy, national security, international relations continues to deteriorate for the next two and a half years.
Whoever replaces Biden, whether it's the cackler or somebody else, we will be in a serious world of hurt even worse than today.
Do you concur, Steve?
A thousand percent.
I actually think that an old naval term that you and I have used a lot, OBE, overcome by events.
I think that the financial crisis and the economic crisis that we're about to go through, and this is only the top of the first inning, is gonna be a real abyss.
The bottom is going to fall out of this.
We have 300 trillion dollars of debt.
We now have an economy, global economy, that's not just in a recession.
I think in certain areas it's reaching to a depression.
You're having, I think, 50 companies, 50 countries on the watch list to have their sovereign debt start to collapse.
You're seeing this in Europe right now.
That's why you're starting to see changes in government.
You know, Orban just said there's going to be 10.
We've already had one in the U.K.
We've had France basically reject Macron 30 days after he was elected by the national elections.
The government in Italy has fallen.
Other governments will fall.
We're in for a really—a very tough part of the fourth turning is upon us.
I think we're looking over a financial and economic abyss.
And what's most disturbing is that the Wall Street and global corporations are absolutely totally confused about this, given that they've added.
added so much to this crisis.
And right now in the White House, the regime that's there is pretty pathetic.
I mean, when Janet Yellen and Powell are your top two economic guys, you really don't have any consistent messaging, the argument, nomenclature, it's really-- - Well, and you have nobody who can deal with the black swans.
You have nobody who can deal with emergencies.
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So, Steve, I've got to ask you to help me.
I need to enlist your assistance because I talked to a lot of people in my kids' generation, young conservatives in their 20s, and I talked to people who are well-meaning Republicans who supported President Trump in 15 and 16, who today, they parrot the same phrase again and again and again.
We gotta have somebody who's not Trump.
We gotta have a Ron DeSantis who's, somebody said to me last night, Trump without all the nasty stuff.
And I try to come up with an argument that you need somebody who's not a politician.
God bless Ron and what he's done in Florida, but we need somebody who has nothing to lose, can only serve one more term, comes into the swamp with a flamethrower, you know, with some claymores, and cleans out the deep state.
What is your argument to those who see themselves as Republicans, but who have fallen for the, oh no, the mean tweets garbage?
What do you say to them, Steve?
Not to the base, Not to the Shire, not to the Hobbits, but the people on our side who say, time for somebody else.
What is your convincing argument?
It's the same thing I said back in 14 to 15.
Those kind of discussions are nonsense.
Yeah.
Don't have it with me.
Here's the reason.
There are so many massive forces in the world today that are converging that we're really going to go through a very tough time and you need somebody that's experienced.
All this happy talk of who's it going to be, it's the same crap you heard back in 14 and 15.
I didn't pay any attention to that time, it's a waste of time.
Here's the thing, and I Really respect Governor DeSantis a lot.
I've known him a long time since I think I was at the very first talk he gave as a tea party was before one of my films back I think it was in 2009.
Wow.
Or 2010.
So I've known Ron since then.
I think the world is I really think a lot of Ron DeSantis and I think he's done a terrific job as governor.
And he's really done some great policies, taken on some great things.
We're beyond that right now.
And anybody talks about that, I just sit there go, okay, fine, go talk.
It's just irrelevant.
But what does that mean?
Can you unpack that for us, Steve?
Just that statement, we are beyond that.
What does that mean?
Because all these, every time donors come to me, they all want to talk about the horse race.
Yes.
I said, forget the horse race.
Forget the horse race.
Right now, we have a populist uprising in this country that could shatter the Democratic Party on November 8th.
Any talk about 2024, you're playing the legacy media's game.
It's irrelevant right now.
What is relevant is from school boards to county supervisors to election boards to running for town council in your hometown, state legislatures, particularly the House of Delegates, okay, to down-ballot races for secretaries of state, every election to down-ballot races for secretaries of state, every election official, the House races and the Senate is everything.
We have a unique opportunity that will never be before us again.
To like 1932.
1932, the Republican Party that essentially run the country since the Civil War, since they were the victorious political party, were shattered.
And we really never got control, even with Reagan, right?
It took us, what, 60, 70 years.
We have an opportunity to shatter the Democratic Party as it exists today, to shatter it into one progressive kind of green element with AOC and the squad, and another kind of center-left We can have the environmentalists and the globalists, right?
It's like cocktail party chit-chat.
It's immature.
It's not relevant.
Here's what's relevant.
Here's what's relevant.
If Trump steps up, like I think he was the next couple weeks, Yes, people are going to run against him for the simple reason that the mainstream media is going to make him like heroes.
They're going to give Cheney a platform and all these platforms.
That's all going to be shattered.
I was there in 2015 when Fox took him on.
You remember this, Seb.
In fact, you went up and talked to President Trump.
Thanks to you, I got to meet with him in the summer of 2015.
August of 15, right after—you went up there right after the first debate when Fox—when Megyn Kelly and Fox, Roger Ailes, my good friend, and Rupert Murdoch tried to kneecap Donald Trump in the very first debate, okay?
We didn't—at Breitbart, we didn't allow it to happen.
We had the great Tony Lee and the hammer Matt Boyle, and you remember, we did like 50 stories in three days.
Breitbart stood in the breach.
You went up.
General Flynn went up.
Other people went up, started talking to then-candidate Trump.
And you see where it got us.
Any talk about 2024 or alternative candidates right now is just a waste of time.
Here's what you got to focus on.
Focus on taking Vienna right now.
We have to shatter the Democratic Party.
We have to take the House of Representatives.
Remember, the framers, the founders of this nation put incredible power In the House of Representatives.
It was like the House of Commons, right?
It has the ability, only people, only group that can initiate taxes.
The appropriation bill comes out of there.
Major investigations come out of there.
It is a massively important, just like Nancy Pelosi's in your life all the time.
We have the power to take that with more seats than the Republicans ever had.
If we do this right, with Hispanics in the rear of Grand Valley, South Texas, with African-American men, with Chinese-Americans and other Asians, with MAGA, we could govern for 100 years.
And don't get me wrong.
Then we have a discussion of 2024.
But I also tell people this crisis we have is a global crisis.
This is exactly like the 1930s.
Right.
But as a strategist, you understand prioritization.
And I think what you're arguing for, and I'm not putting words in your mouth, is in military terms, you've got the enemy over the horizon 20 clicks away, but you've got the five meter target.
And the five meter target is the midterms.
We're going to crush them in the midterms, create crisis inside the party so it fractures.
Then we can talk about 2024.
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Namaste to you.
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All right, I wish we could spend hours on this next topic, but as I'm sure you do, Steve, although you're not on Twitter, you don't like social media because you are a sane man, a lot of my followers say, I'm not voting again!
That's it!
They stole it in 20!
We're done for!
How do you deal with the question of the Zuckerbucks The drop boxes, the mules.
The GOP knew what the DNC were going to do in 2020.
Rona McDaniel didn't do anything either consciously or because she's incompetent.
Where do we stand now?
The Trump campaign didn't do anything.
Nobody who was responsible did anything.
So where do we stand now?
Between Tina Peters in Colorado, what's happening in Wisconsin, you have people on the case.
Is it perfect?
It is far from perfect.
Does it mean that you've got to walk away from your commitment to this republic and to this party?
In the tough times in the American Revolution, did people put their guns down and just walk away?
Did they do that in the Civil War?
Did they do that in World War II?
The world is very imperfect.
OK, and we have major forces aligned against us.
I want you to go.
If you say they stole it, go look in the mirror and look at yourself and see if you can tell every patriot grave from time immemorial down to the present that, oh, it's so tough.
They stole it.
They use the machines.
I can't do it anymore.
No.
Not only do you have to vote, you have to get off your ass and get to work.
You have to become a precinct committeeman.
You have to become someone that works.
And if you don't like the elections, become a poll worker, not just a poll watcher.
Run to become an election official.
Get off your ass.
You owe it to yourself.
You owe it to your family.
More importantly, to your country and to every generation that's gotten us here today.
This is the thing that gets me the craziest.
Yes, it's totally imperfect.
And the official apparatus stood there.
The Trump campaign stood there.
Mark Elias and the Democrats absolutely walked through how they were going to steal it, and they stole it in plain sight.
This is one of the reasons I will never give up until we've decertified those electors.
It's not about Trump.
It's not even about getting the presidency back right now.
It's about setting things right in this constitutional republic for all those generations that fought for honest elections.
If you don't like it, then do something about it.
I thought... Remember, there's no whining in the war room at Seb Gorka's show or in MAGA.
MAGA's not for whiners.
The country's in a crisis right now.
I absolutely understand how the Uniparty and the controlled opposition Republicans like exactly... They want you to be depressed.
They want you to suck your thumb.
They want you to curl up in the fetal position.
Right?
They just want you to go to the fridge and get another beer.
And they cut on, you know, cut on some Netflix and watch some streaming service on Yellowstone so you feel like the Vikings.
So you feel like a tough guy.
Right?
That's not going to work, okay?
It's not going to work.
I thought I was a little bit too hardcore.
But as I've said many, many times on my show, if my wife, Katie, who you've met, Steve, who absolutely detests the swamp in politics, if she can surprise me, I told her, Katie, you have not been reading St.
Paul's letters clearly about a husband and a wife.
If she can declare to me that she's running for local office, If she can get trained as an election officer, then get off your duff, everyone listening.
If my wife can do it, who detests the swamp, so can you.
All right, Steve, let's talk about the thing that you educated me on in the White House.
I came in, I'd been prepping to work for Mike Flynn and the NSC on counterterrorism issues.
You reached down, you pulled me into the great idea, the The long-range strategic initiatives group.
And then once, you know, you get the clearances, you read the presidential daily brief, and you see, well, we'll crush ISIS as, you know, thanks to you, the physical caliphate was crushed.
We'll deal with Russia.
We'll get little Kim back in his box.
We'll kill the JCPOA.
But the only real threat we have at a strategic level as a peer competitor is China.
So I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Thank you, Steve, for opening my eyes to that.
I'm going to ask the naive question, but as a person who's heavily involved in politics elsewhere in Europe and elsewhere, any other nation of the free world, if the head of state's son were found to be not only, you know, We're on camera with Russian hookers and crack cocaine, but boasting about being in business with the chief spy of China.
That government would collapse.
Are we living, as a Hungarian philosopher said about Hungary after the fall of the Berlin Wall, are we living in a land of no consequences, Steve Bannon?
You know, Grassley, Senator Grassley just sent two letters, sent a letter to the FBI saying, hey, whistleblowers, these are senior FBI officials are coming forward now and talking about the suppression of the laptop from hell starting in December of 2019.
There is going to be accountability.
When we take control.
Up until then, this is a lawless administration.
We know this.
They're totally compromised by the CCP.
This is why—and, Seb, one of the great things you did coming in as one of our senior strategists—and actually, I had you focus on what was the existential threat, the Chinese Communist Party.
You understand how they view us as a tributary state.
This is the reason they have no respect For Sullivan or Blinken or Biden or any of them.
One, they know that the Bidens are financially and honey-potted compromised, right?
The other thing is they don't believe that Joe Biden is legitimate.
They've done the math on the elections.
They know exactly what happened here.
The Biden administration, when I say it's an illegitimate regime, I don't say that lightly.
As much as I dislike the Obamas and the Bushes, I never said that about them, that they were an illegitimate regime.
The Bidens are an illegitimate regime.
They're completely lawless.
They run like a lawless mafia.
The evidence of that is overwhelming, and the Hungarian philosopher is quite correct.
I mean, this is the problem with the radical Democrats.
There are no consequences about how they want to run things.
And this is the great fight in front of us.
This is why you can't sit there and whine because, hey, machines took — you know, took a vote in Georgia.
I understand that.
And we're working on that.
And it's not perfect.
But you still need to get out and to vote.
If you want to have consequences, if you want to have accountability, it's in your audience's hands.
We're not going to have any—no fairy godmother is going to come down here with a wand and say it's going to be fine.
And there's no one leader.
You can't put this burden on Trump.
There's no one person that's going to turn this around.
This is a collective enterprise.
That's what populism is.
And that's what this MAGA uprising is about.
Every person has to put their shoulder to the wheel.
Let's remind the world of how China treats the Biden administration.
This is our most senior diplomat, Antony Blinken, in Anchorage being bitch-slapped by the Communist Party of China.
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So let me say here that in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength. the United States does not have the qualification to say America doesn't have the moral certitude and rectitude to talk to a communist country with gulags from a position of strength.
And what does he do?
What does Tony Blinken do?
The man who likes to post videos of himself playing a guitar on YouTube.
He just sits there.
That's what Steve taught me.
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One of my endearing memories, Steve, from our time in the White House together was when I managed to smuggle Ed Luttwak One of the greatest brains in the world today into the West Wing, and I invited him for a coffee, and then I said, Steve, I've got Professor Luttwak in the building, and you went, what?
The Professor Luttwak?
I had to pull him into your office, and I found him there about four hours later still talking to you about the Byzantine Empire and the Chinese Navy today.
Give us, if you will, a little bit of homework.
You know, you are a voracious, you're an omnivore of information.
I've mentioned one book, The Fourth Turning.
Give our friends out there a little bit of homework.
What books?
If you want to understand how the world works today, what do you have on your bedside table?
I know I've seen the stack of books you have in the embassy.
Give us three or four things that the MAGA base needs to acquaint themselves with in addition to Professor Luttwak.
Well, first off, Professor Luttwak was my professor at Georgetown in graduate school.
You can't do better than The Grand Strategy of the Roman Empire.
I strongly recommend that book to everybody.
Also, get in a bridge copy of—if you want to see what's going on today, get in a bridge copy of Gibbon's Decline and Fall.
Study the late Roman Republic.
If you want to understand what's going on, read Caesar's Gallic War.
Read about the late Roman Republic.
Remember, the founders of our nation didn't as much look to Greece as to Rome as their model.
The founders were Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton.
They were very focused on the Roman Republic.
And I would say go back and study the history of the Roman Republic, the Gracchi, right?
The populist, the two brothers that started the populist revolt in Republican Rome.
Read the whole history of Republican Rome and how the Republic of Rome fell and turned into an empire.
That is essentially, that's the situation we're in today.
We've got an empire that the founders never envisioned, in fact, warned us against.
When you talk about the deep state or the administrative state, the World Economic Forum, you have people in this country, our opposition, that want us to be an imperial power.
We were never—we were the anti-imperial power.
That's why we were—the revolution in 1776 was against the British Empire, right?
We've always been anti-imperial.
And now we've—now I think you're at a point that we're either going to fight for this republic, which was modeled on Republican Rome by our founders, Or we're going to turn into this just voracious empire run by the administrative state.
That is the inflection point in this fourth turning.
When I say, hey, it's not decided how this thing ends.
We're going to be one thing or the other on the other side.
We're either going to be the republic, constitutional republic that was bequeathed to us for 12 or 13 generations, or we're going to be an imperial power.
Okay?
Like a global imperial power.
And that's not what we want to be.
So I recommend people talk to us.
As I say, go back and read the late—read about Caesar and read about what happened in the late Roman Republic.
See how the Republic fell and became an empire.
And then you'll see, I think, much of what's going on in modern America.
Are the facts different?
Yes.
But the human—the drivers of human greed, avarice, and oftentimes You know, the mercy and wisdom all come up there.
So I'm a big believer now, more than ever, you ought to be reading history and you cannot go wrong by anything that Professor Luttwak writes, particularly his grand strategy, The Roman Empire, is one of the most brilliant books on strategy ever written.
And nothing has really changed since Thucydides wrote the Peloponnesian Wars.
Nations go to war for three reasons, for fear, for honor, and for national interest.
It hasn't changed since then.
Steve, let me ask you, you came in with a very specific mission to the White House.
One of them was to create what is an absolute necessity for any president, a long-range think tank.
The strategic initiatives group and then beside that to de-operationalize this absurd, giant NSC we inherited from Obama of 420 people.
What would you say right now is the one thing?
President Trump needs to come back in, switch back all the levers that Biden destroyed, whether it's XL Keystone Pipeline, the wall and everything.
So go back to what he was doing.
But what is your one piece of advice to President Trump for the second term in office that he didn't do then or he needs to do now?
You have to, you have to, from the very day that you've put your hand down off the Bible and ready to go to work, take on the administrative stake.
Full board.
It has to be across the board.
And particularly the national security and intelligence apparatus has to be, I think we have to go beyond even the church committee.
Right now, the FBI is out of control.
DOJ is out of control.
I happen to think the intelligence service is out of control.
We just saw in the last 72 hours infiltration of the Federal Reserve, right?
The Chinese Communist Party trying to build a botanical garden here that's going to have all types of Huawei information in it.
The country is inundated by the Chinese Communist Party's money influence peddling, okay?
That has to be addressed by going after the administrative state.
That's where they've seated themselves.
And every day, taking on the administrative state, is going to be like Stalingrad.
They're going to leak, they're going to fight you.
If people think the first term seemed chaotic and tough, you ain't seen nothing.
Because the deep state understands, the administrative state understands, we got them.
In fact, there's now books coming out and articles coming out just about the SWAN piece as they understand that we have legally, and last thing I want to say before we bounce, Seb, of the Supreme Court Decisions from the end of this court session, Roe v. Wade pales in comparisons of the importance of EPA versus West Virginia.
That is Gorsuch as the intellectual leader going through the judicial and legal side of deconstructing this administrative, massive bureaucracy that's impervious to elections.
The other hammer of that is what Jonathan Swan reported, where we're actually going to have the 4,000 political appointees Schedule F is a genius construct.
brick by brick.
And right now, the mainstream media is freaking out.
They're going to freak out a lot more when they see what the action plan is.
This is the great fight internally.
Schedule F is a genius construct.
Last 30 seconds, your message across the nation to the hobbits in the Shire who are intimidated by the criminalization of conservatives like you and Peter Navarro.
It doesn't matter.
When you set out to take, as Napoleon told his marshals, when you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna.
God bless.
War Room, the man behind the War Room, former Chief Strategist to the President.
God bless you, Steve Bannon.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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