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Guys like Schiff and people like crazy Nancy Pelosi, she's nuts.
I'm telling you, she's a nut job.
I mean, you talk about people in politics.
Look at her husband.
Every time something happens, he goes out and he buys stuff.
He's made a lot of money.
He made $100 million.
She started off with nothing.
And she does have a big wall around her house, by the way, even though she fought us like crazy in the war.
But she's crazy.
She's nuts.
I'm telling you, she's a psycho.
Never forget.
Everything this... I mean, how can they allow a person to make all that money and the press barely wants to cover it?
It's called inside trading.
Insider trading.
That was the boss at Turning Point USA this weekend in Florida, where in the straw poll occurring in Florida, he crushed it 4-1.
The nearest second place was the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis.
And he was talking about Nancy.
She's a psycho.
Somebody else who I think can back that up, who had to deal with his own Psycho Attack just a few days ago, literally, is a great friend of the show, combat veteran, a military professional, military intelligence professional, representing the great district of the first district of Congress in New York, Lee Zeldin.
Welcome back to America First.
Hey, it's great to be with you, Seb.
All right, I bet you could tell stories about Crazy Nancy, but I want to talk about your experience a week ago.
I texted you as soon as I heard, called you up the next day.
What is the latest?
I know the New York authorities, local sheriffs, released the person who attacked you.
How did it go down?
Give us an update on everything that happened to you.
The latest update is that over the weekend, the U.S.
Attorney's Office charged this person and he was rearrested and he's currently being detained.
That night, right after the attack had taken place, I was saying that we can't be seeing this attacker get released back out on the street due to cashless bail, but I was predicting that it was something that would probably happen.
It'd be wrong if it would happen, but that's New York's cashless bail law for you.
And then sure enough, just hours later, he was released.
New York Castle's bail law is resulting in all sorts of stories all across the state where people are getting released from prison without any type of judicial discretion.
We just had an issue a few weeks ago in New York where two Mexican cartel drug smugglers were busted with $1.2 million worth of crystal meth and they were instantly re-released back out on the street.
Due to cashless bail, I'm grateful for all the people who were thinking quick on their feet there Thursday evening.
They instantly, within a moment, jumped on stage.
They subdued the attacker.
I'm grateful to the Monroe County Sheriff's Office.
They responded quickly.
They were there within minutes, and they were professionals.
Unfortunately, this didn't end up any worse than it did, but it was pretty nuts what did happen.
Well, and I'm more resolute than ever to keep fighting.
Well, I'm not surprised, but let's give credit where credit was due.
You had some pretty fast reactions when he came at your throat with that device, that cat's paw device, and you told me it's thanks to your mother making sure you went to all those karate classes as a kid, because you deflected that man very quickly, and then I think a former Marine pounced on him and subjugated him.
And God bless everybody who helped you.
But at the top of your Twitter feed, and I'm looking right now, please follow this man, Rep Lee Zeldin is the account.
You've got just...
Snapshots from what's happened this week in New York.
You've got a robbery, the shooting of an off-duty corrections officer, Harlem man gunned down in a, quote, dice game gone bad, two dead found blocks and minutes apart in New York City, overnight violence, subway attack, man stabbed in the head and torso on a train in Brooklyn.
This is just this weekend, Congressman.
Can you help explain to those who might not live in New York, what is the logic Of the cashless bail, what is the logic of the Democrats?
Do they just want, you know, Armageddon on the streets of New York?
I'll tell you that New Yorkers of all stripes, regardless of party, they're really upset with having to wake up on Monday mornings and reading all these headlines that are in the news.
And this isn't just some random Monday morning where there's bad news waiting for you.
This is happening pretty much every Monday, it feels like.
And now, as far as the policies that you're seeing coming out of Albany, they have one-party rule.
You have people who are really pro-criminal with the policies that they're pushing.
From cashless bail, they enacted a new bill called Less Is More, where they're releasing people early from prison who should remain behind bars.
They passed a new law called the Halt Act.
Which resulted in corrections officers losing the tool of solitary confinement and now being assaulted.
There's one policy after another, and they have more ideas of what they want to do next, which are pretty much just fighting for the criminal, not fighting for the law-abiding citizen.
On top of it, law enforcement's getting thrown under the bus.
We have an issue with rogue DAs.
In the state of New York, the Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, right across the board, all sorts of offenses he's refusing to charge at all, and all sorts of other offenses he's charging as lesser offenses.
You combine all of this and more, you have a perfect explanation of what is wrong in New York as it relates to crime and public safety.
And you have people who, if you're riding the New York City subway, and less and less people are doing that, that experience when you go down there, you see people hugging poles, hugging guardrails because they don't want to be the next person who gets thrown onto the tracks.
It, like, turns your stomach to even think that this is happening, and in our country.
Now talk to us about the remedy.
So, you're running for governor.
The website is zeldinfornewyork.com.
That's Z-E-L-D-I-N, zeldinfornewyork.com.
And talk about the peculiar constitutional powers you have if you become governor, Congressman.
We don't have recall elections in New York, but what we do have is written into the New York State Constitution, the governor of the state of New York has the authority to remove a district attorney who refuses to enforce the law.
And the Manhattan District Attorney, Alvin Bragg, is refusing to enforce the law across the board.
I would, as my first action on day one after getting sworn in, will remove the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg.
It is not just a constitutional Authority is my constitutional obligation to protect the people of New York.
All right.
What is your message to those in the great state of New York?
And I'm honored to have campaigned for you.
I'll be back on the campaign trail for you later this year.
What is your message to those who say, no, we can't do it.
It's New York.
It's gone.
What do you say to them and what their role in your campaign?
I'm not in this race to come in second.
Losing is not an option.
We are fighting right now for the future of our state, to save our state, to reverse the attacks on wallets, on safety, on freedom.
We have an opportunity to do it this November with independents coming our way and a growing amount of disenfranchised Democrats.
But everybody everywhere needs to be all in, taking absolutely nothing for granted.
And if you work hard enough for it, for the state and country you want, then you'll get it.
Well, I'm very glad, we are all glad, all three million of our listeners here at America First, that you are unharmed, your family is safe, and thank you, I think, to that former Marine who helped subdue that attacker.
He is Congressman Lee Zeldin, New York's First Congressional District, future Governor of New York, God willing, if we do our work, everybody out there, everybody who wants change, In the formerly great state of New York, it's very easy.
Go to ZeldinforNewYork.com.
Z-E-L-D-I-N-F-O-R.
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Thank you, Congressman.
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You want mics on or off?
Um, on.
And lines open.
And lines open.
Mics are on.
Oh, he's great.
We love Lee.
I should hope by now.
The mics are hot while we're on the breaks as well on the video feed.
John, can you come in here with some gaffer tape?
Just get his mic wire.
Yeah, if I can't hit the post, his mic wire on the inside.
If I can't hit the clock after three and a half years, I'd be in trouble.
Just tuck it.
I have to tell you, I really appreciate the Star Trek, the motion picture poster up in the green room.
Very few people appreciate the mastery of that film.
I know it gets a bad rap and it's just I just watched it again like a month or two ago and yeah it's got a certain pace to it but it's beautiful.
It is.
And it's made by Robert Wise at Sound of Music.
The cinematography is just fantastic.
The music, the cinematography, and when you first see the Enterprise, the refueled Enterprise.
Oh, it's beautiful.
It's beautiful.
It's a love story between a man and his ship.
As a Navy captain, I look at that and I'm like, that, you know, I still, when I approach my ship, Uh, the Theodore Roosevelt, which is the, not the ship I commanded, but it's the ship that I most love.
It's, you know, it's a love story, you know?
Now somebody told me at the weekend that the aircraft carriers, now this is a new regulation, can only be captained by pilots.
- Oh, aviators.
- Aviators, yeah.
- So it's NFOs or pilots, or if you have Naval Observer Wings.
But that's been back in the 1930s.
That's written into law since we created it.
- No, really?
- Yeah, it's-- - I didn't know that.
- It's something that the surface warfare guys really are upset about.
- I bet they are.
Because to be a carrier captain is to be a future admiral.
I mean, it's virtually a done deal then.
So I'm going to ask you to just introduce yourself, what you did in the Pentagon, in the Navy, and then we'll just talk about China and the state of the U.S.
Navy.
Excellent, that's perfect.
This is for you.
This is my book, To Provide and Maintain a Navy.
Yeah, I have not actually signed that to you yet, but I will before I leave today.
Thank you.
That'll be fantastic.
Alright.
70 seconds.
Cut four, please.
Come in with cut four.
Come in with cut four, no liner.
Alright.
Sean Connery.
Oh yeah, I love that photograph.
Got a title in mind for the Zelda segment?
I love the original films.
I also like the Daniel Craig arc.
It's a complete story.
But he's not Bond.
No.
No, he's not Dark.
But it is an interesting... But also you can tell, as one reviewer said, you can tell he just didn't enjoy being it.
You can tell on his face, scowling for two hours.
All the time.
All the time.
Alright, kill him, Mike.
All right.
Thank you.
Well, if you're across the South and you're in the middle of this wave, what's going to save you right now is Paxlovid.
But once we get through this wave, during the long, you should get vaccinated and boosted because we do believe it will protect you, particularly if you're over 70.
I knew these vaccines were not going to protect against infection and I think we overplayed the vaccines and it made people then worry that it's not going to protect against severe disease and hospitalization.
I'm sorry, what did you say?
We knew?
Dr. Deborah Birx, Colonel Birx, we knew the vaccines weren't going to protect you?
That's intriguing, isn't it?
Especially the line in your forthcoming book about how you hid the stats from President Trump.
I know you've had a nice makeover, the blonde hair suits you, and I think you're probably getting ready for some contributorship at CNN, but really?
So you lied to the American people?
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We were at a conservative jamboree recently celebrating the launch of the latest book from our good friend Kurt Schlichter, where I bumped into an individual who's also an author, has served this nation likewise in uniform.
He just handed me his book, To Provide and Maintain a Navy, Why Naval Primacy is America's First Best Strategy.
I don't think this administration has read it, I'm afraid.
We have in studio Captain Henry J. Jerry Hendricks, U.S.
Navy, retired.
Welcome in studio.
It's a pleasure to be here.
Thank you for having me, Dr. Gorka.
So we had a super fun discussion.
I think we bored everybody around us because we got into the nitty-gritty of national defense, the Navy personnel, very, very rapidly at this little soiree.
Tell our audience who you are, what's your background, and what you have done in and out of uniform to serve this nation.
Well, I joined the Navy in 1988 out of an ROTC scholarship at Purdue.
I served in the P3 community doing maritime patrol and reconnaissance.
I flew in Saudi Arabia during Desert Storm.
I flew over Yugoslavia during the 1990s doing maritime surveillance over land, doing ISR.
And then 9-11 occurred.
I was actually here in Washington, D.C.
serving with the Chief of Naval Operations staff when 9-11 occurred.
I knew a number of shipmates who were killed in the Pentagon.
My career sort of changed to strategy after that, so I went back and got a master's in diplomatic history, got a Ph.D., became a strategist largely, worked for Andy Marshall in the Office of Net Assessment.
Yes, and it's a great pleasure and honor to work for that man.
I ended up working for the Secretary of the Navy as the director of his advisory panel, and then finally, because no good deed goes unpunished, I served out my last three years as Director of Naval History, since they figured out I had a PhD.
And then I retired, and I worked in a think tank as the head of a defense program, and now I work as a consultant, and also with the Sagamore Institute, a think tank in Indianapolis, Indiana.
All right, so given that huge breadth of experience in the Navy, in the Pentagon, reviewing the history of the United States Navy, what is the state of the U.S.
Navy today?
We're largely broken.
The Navy is too small.
for the task that it has been assigned.
And we can see this in that the combatant commanders, the regional combatant commanders, demand about 110 ships to be forward deployed at any given moment.
And in fact, we only have 298.
And so we really- - You're talking about per combatant command?
No, no.
Total worldwide.
But Reagan's Navy was 600.
600 ships.
And at that time, we maintained 150 ships out at sea at any given moment, serving, doing naval presence missions, power projection, and everything.
So right now, that's what we have total.
Yeah, we have 298 total in the fleet.
And serving at any one time?
Yeah, and so that's why we broke in the fleet.
So we didn't have enough time, given the demands for all the ships to be forward deployed, to properly maintain them at home or train their crews.
And so if you remember back to 2017, when we had three collisions and a grounding that resulted in the deaths of American sailors at sea, it was largely because we weren't being able to do all this at home cycle because we were under demand to be forward.
And today, we've decreased the number of ships that are forward deployed, but what that's done is created power vacuums in places like the South China Sea.
Now you said these are numbers that are inadequate to the mission.
Explain the unique mission of the U.S.
with the building of the artificial islands and so on.
So really, it's this decline of the Navy that's invited this competition that we're seeing at sea right now. - Now you said these are numbers that are inadequate to the mission.
Explain the unique mission of the US Navy. - So as opposed to the Army and the Air Force, which really are wartime military services, the Navy and Marine Corps have a peacetime Naval presence mission.
Where we're really out and about is the cop on the beat.
So we're out providing security, we're upholding rules... On the navigable sea lane.
On the navigable sea lanes, which is virtually, you know, seven-tenths of the planet.
And so this is where the wealth of the planet moves.
This is where the human race has advanced considerably, you know, with overall, you know, the betterment of life since the end of World War II when the U.S.
Navy dominated the world's oceans and now we have free trade, free commerce, free movement.
Well, now those freedoms are being impinged upon.
Because of the shrinkage of our Navy.
The Chinese Navy is actually larger than our Navy right now.
They have over 370 ships.
We're at 298.
This is the smallest our U.S.
Navy has been since World War I. And although our Navy is much more advanced, more technological now, the best ship in the world can only be one place at a time.
As the Soviets have demonstrated, and the Russians have demonstrated, quantity has a quality all of itself.
That's correct.
You don't have to have the highest technology whiz-bangs if you're outnumbering your enemy ten to one.
That's correct, and that's the one thing that we're seeing is China has recognized this, the Russians have recognized this, so the Russians are making territorial claims in the Arctic Ocean.
Which they never would have done before.
The U.S.
Navy doesn't have a ship that's a surface ship that's rated to operate in the Arctic.
The Chinese have made territorial sea claims over the South China Sea and the East China Sea.
A claim they would have never made had our Navy been as large as it was during the Reagan administration.
And so what we're seeing now is because of the weakness that we have projected, we have invited a competition which is going to impinge upon American life.
All right, we have to talk about how we fix it, what it has to look like, what the Navy has to look like, and also a little, we'll have a snippet, a reprise of the discussion we had in terms of Manning government.
Yes, as far as I'm concerned, Ronald Reagan's statement still stands.
Policy is personnel, and it is the thing that I worry about the most when it comes to a second Trump term in the White House.
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And we'll just kind of go over the idea of the bench.
The importance of building the bench.
So there's actually a page in there where I get at the back, it's like page 108 or something like that, where I get into the size of the fleet.
456 ships is what I recommend.
We actually break down the types of ships and why they matter.
We don't need to go into that level of detail.
Page 102.
102, okay.
If you got it right, I would have been very impressed.
108 is actually the page where I think I talk about the Great Lakes and building ships on the Ohio and Mississippi River.
So you've got here 295 or 456.
456, yeah.
Yeah, 295 or 456. 456, yeah.
62 attack submarines.
Yeah, and that's the key between the submarines and the frigates.
So this is the high-low mix.
I use my frigates for peacetime presence, being out and about, cop on the beat, but I really need the submarines for my power projection in wartime.
I really have some serious concerns about the carrier, mostly because we've... In terms of vulnerability, or what?
Very high vulnerability, and not to mention the air wing Only can go 500 miles now.
We've under-invested in the air wing and got rid of the long-range strike that we used to have with the A-6 Intruder, the A-3 Sky Warrior.
We just don't have those long-range strike assets anymore.
And that's made the carrier less than relevant.
So submarines with lots of missiles, tomahawks, and these new hypersonic conventional prompt strike, which that's one of my areas of expertise that I've done a lot of work with the Navy on, is hypersonic weapons.
We can go anywhere you want to go with that.
I might actually bring up the hypersonics thing.
Well, I know that that was a big deal for the administration.
Robert O'Brien talked about it a lot.
And so, yeah, I think that's a place we need to make a lot of investments.
By the way, your little discussion in the previous break about bond now has the whole Rumble live chat furiously debating who the best part is.
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We are back with Captain U.S.
Navy retired Henry Jerry Hendricks, who is sharing with us his plans for how to get back maritime primacy for this nation.
So what does it look like?
How long is it going to take us to get where we need to be in terms of naval power?
And how many ships and subs are we talking about, Captain?
Well, uh, the number of ships that we need is actually around 450 ships.
456 is the number, right?
Because it's not the Cold War anymore.
Don't need 600.
450 will do it.
That's correct.
And so, uh, and we also need some time.
So what we need to do is preserve the ships that we have now rather than rapidly decommissioning so many ships is what the current administration has been planning to do.
Why?
Why do they want to rapidly decommission our ships?
First of all, there's problems with some of the ships, like the littoral combat ships.
Mechanical problems, design faults in them, that they simply don't want to deal with.
They're becoming increasingly expensive to maintain.
So don't fix it, scrap it.
That's it.
Don't fix it, scrap it, and then plow that money into this divest to invest strategy where we want to divest of things that were problematic, so invest in sort of futuristic new technology capabilities for the fleet.
The problem is, is we're living inside the Davidson window.
Admiral Davidson a few years ago said that he believed that China would invade Taiwan within the next six years.
At that time, that meant by 2026.
I think we've actually pulled that Davidson window forward into the 2024-2025 timeframe.
And so we need to have the largest fleet that we can have.
We need Battle Force 2025, not Battle Force 2045, which is what the current administration has been focused on that out year.
So I need to preserve the fleet I have now, and then I need to build the new fleet that we need to take on China.
That means more submarines, specifically fast attack submarines with a lot of missiles, and new frigates, which are my cop on the beat out and about, maintaining the rules of the world.
Two quick questions, gotta squeeze in.
The role of hypersonics, how concerned are you of enemy capabilities?
I'm very concerned.
The Chinese and the Russians are ahead of us, which is ludicrous given the fact that we invented hypersonic experimentation back in the 50s and 60s.
So they've been essentially stealing our technology.
We need to get back ahead.
Conventional prompt strike on our Navy ships is essential to moving forward.
We need them on our submarines and our surface ships.
So I'm very concerned about that.
And in the second half of our discussion previously, we talked about the bench.
If a conservative administration comes back, How worried are you that we're going to get the right people into the right positions at DOD and elsewhere?
Well, I'm very concerned about this.
I think this was a major area where we fell short during the Trump administration, which was we didn't know, we didn't have the right Secretary of Defense.
We didn't understand what those people were thinking.
We need to make sure that they were aligned with the strategy and the policies.
So we need to have a strong, we need a series of candidates for Secretary of Defense.
People identified to be deputy secretary.
The service secretaries need to be online.
This is what Reagan did well.
He had a strong secretary of defense in Cap Weinberger.
He had a strong secretary of the Navy in John Lehman who had a vision that aligned with the president.
And so the president led with the vision, and then he let the people manage underneath it.
We need to make sure that that alignment is there across all of those service secretaries against the undersecretaries, and that they are in favor of the administration's policies.
So you need to start identifying those leaders now, interviewing them so that you know what their own philosophies are and that they will be supportive.
And don't hire people like General Lapdog Mattis who are actually Democrats and who were socialized under a Democrat administration under the Obamas.
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Your wife may purchase a Glock 19 and I'm doing an internal audit at my shop here.
And I have a couple of Glock 19s on the list.
Can you guys give me a shout and read me the serial number of the euros and I can compare it to my list just to clear it out of my books because I have to figure out which FFL I sent it to and the date so I can put that in my… John, is he connected on Skype?
Yep.
Can you hear me, guys?
Yeah, we got it.
Hello, hello.
Go ahead and switch back to that guy.
Okay, good.
All right, what's the latest story, John?
I You know, I don't have a whole lot right now.
I've been working on some administrative stuff today, but there's a lot of great news out there.
I think tomorrow is Trump's speech.
I think you can hear a lot about crime and how the D.C.
is putting America's security on the line.
So I think that's going to be good.
And what he said over the weekend, you know, restoring people from, uh, who've been thrown out of the military for the vaccine mandate, getting rid of, um, you're really seeing the Trump 2.0 doctrine.
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
Yeah.
I'm going to ask you about that Trump 2.0.
50 seconds.
Good.
Don't want to come in with anything?
Um, really?
Come in by cuts on cut seven.
Cut 7, no liner.
Oh no, actually... 9.
9.
9.
No liner.
Alright, get Clips 1 ready here.
Alright,
get clips on ready here. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. get clips on ready here. 25 seconds. 25 seconds.
25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds. 25 seconds.
I am hearing a lot of anecdotal stuff around the edges of people who have been, you know, hardcore with Trump that now just can't stand him.
It's enough to make a bit of a difference within maybe a GOP primary, but I think on the bigger term, it's denying anywhere near 50% of the American voters willing to basically go along with something like the coup on January 6th.
That's Adam Kinzinger.
Mr. G, is it true, does Adam Kinzinger, what party is he from?
Oh, supposedly the Republican Party.
Interesting.
Thank you.
I just wanted to double check that because I wasn't sure.
Saying that President Trump is increasingly irrelevant and people don't want to vote for him, which is strange if you look at his endorsement rate and also if you look at the fact that 80% of the straw poll at TPUSA in Florida put him as their favorite choice for 2024.
How is that possible?
Let's talk to somebody who doesn't care about ideology but cares about the truth.
He is the founder, the editor-chief of justthenews.com.
You can follow him at JSolomonReports on Twitter.
John Solomon, welcome back to America First.
Yeah, great to be with you, Seb.
In the break, as we're prepping, you used this fascinating phrase, Trump 2.0.
The fact he's going to be making a dress, not in Florida as he did last weekend, but in the swamp tomorrow.
You think that there may be something counter, something gainsaid to what you just heard from Kinzinger and perhaps the shape, the outline of the Trump 2.0 campaign platform?
Yeah, listen, I think if anyone who's been watching Donald Trump the last few months has begun to see what a Trump Doctrine 2.0 would be.
He's got all of his core policies that were at the heart of his 2016 win and were at the heart of his many successes in the White House.
But now he's starting to develop prescriptions to unravel the mistakes, to unravel the damage, to unravel the problems that most anger people about the Joe Biden presidency, whether it's teaching radical ideologies to our children at school, he says he wants to get rid of that, throwing out talented military leaders because of a vaccine mandate, driving up inflation, driving down food supplies and supply chain.
Stocks.
He has a solution for all of those.
And so Trump 2.0 doctrine builds on what made him the president in 2017, but now tries to find prescriptions for what Joe Biden has undone or made worse in America.
And tomorrow, I think you're going to hear a new element.
I think you're going to hear him at this America First Policy Institute speech, which will be Donald Trump's first official return to Washington, D.C., since he left on January 20th, 2021.
He's going to talk about crime and security and the fact that we are less safe in our cities, that kids can't play in their school yard or even in their backyard without potentially being shot or harmed or feeling unsafe.
So I think this issue of crime and security in big blue urban cities is going to resonate tomorrow.
And he's going to have a prescription for that, much like he's offered prescriptions to all of the other things that have made Americans upset with Joe Biden.
Let's keep this in mind.
Donald Trump is way more popular, has a much higher approval rating right now than Joe Biden.
And anyone who thinks he's irrelevant hasn't read Axios, Politico, or watched any of the news.
Or he's being covered today as much as he was when he was president.
You just stole my thunder.
The idea that this is an irrelevant individual and Axios writes, what was it John?
A three, four thousand word piece last week on Trump's plan for the second administration.
I think this is willful thinking on behalf of the former Republican Adam Kinzinger.
Okay, let's flip the coin.
I think that's a very reasonable, summational prognosis of what we can expect from a Trump 2.0 campaign platform.
Given your years in the swamp covering these people, covering these parties, What do you think the messaging on the platform will be for the other party?
Are they going to go back to the old tropes of Roe v. Wade and January 6th?
Or is it too early to tell?
Listen, at this point in the last Democratic presidency that was as troubled and unpopular as this one, the first term of Bill Clinton, you saw the President, President Bill Clinton, move to the center, triangulate between the left side of his party and the Republicans and try to salvage his presidency.
Joe Biden is doubling down on the far-left agenda that has gotten him into this hole, and you saw this again last week.
He and all of his advisors kept talking about This high gas pricing is good.
It's a transition to a cleaner future.
No, it's not.
It's a 20-year gap between now and when we can have widespread electric cars.
I think you're going to see this president double down, try to keep his base motivated.
But that's suicide, isn't it?
John, I'm sorry.
I mean, if you take the politics out of it and just you look at the environment, isn't that political suicide?
It is.
And listen, it was political suicide to exit Afghanistan the way we did.
It was political suicide to let Russia have a pipeline in Europe that gave a geopolitical upper hand in Eastern Europe and shut down America's pipeline.
He has taken so many actions that defy conventional political wisdom that doing it again in the midterm elections, I don't think is going to surprise anybody.
But most any other president would be pivoting to the center saying, all right, I'm going to start talking about the issues that matter.
I feel your pain.
He's not doing any of that.
And I think that's what sets up this 2022 election to be a really significant watershed moment.
He is going to stick with his big government socialist approach to America and roll the dice.
And the Americans are going to be able to speak and let them know what they think of that in November.
That's an incredibly trenchant point that he hasn't done anything or this administration hasn't done anything meaningful to show some kind of empathetic connection to the American people who are suffering.
And that, irrespective of political party, you get punished.
If people are suffering and you can't actually recognize that, Then people will actually punish you in the ballot box.
John, last question.
We're hearing all kinds of different things.
Grand juries, indictments, not indictments.
Hunter Biden, the latest from your sources?
Yeah, listen, in the early summer, prosecutors acted just like they act when they're about to bring an indictment.
There's been a lull in the last few weeks.
We don't know what's going on.
A lot of chatter, mostly from defense lawyers, trying to opine from their conversations with the prosecutor what's going on.
I think all signs are, and the White House is bracing for, some form of a criminal action against Hunter Biden, whether it's a plea deal or an indictment, and it seems to fall into four buckets.
taxes, lobbying, maybe a gun charge for lying on his gun application, and then maybe some pay-to-play sort of allegation, Foreign Corrupt Practices Act or something like that.
Those are the four buckets we hear from people who've been before the grand jury or their lawyers.
But I think the day of reckoning for Hunter Biden is near, and the work of the prosecutor is nearly wrapped up.
And why not?
It's been four years.
Most people don't get four years to be indicted.
Usually they're done in a lot quicker time.
And people like Steve Bannon get prosecuted in 48 hours and found guilty.
He's the founder of JustinNews.com.
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Thank you, John.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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I'm just going to go straight to cause.
Okay, uh, titles for everything up to this point.
Zelda.
Hang on, I gotta read what they just did to Ghislaine Maxwell.
- There we go, hang on. - They switched to prison, right?
Yeah.
It's a really nice one.
Nice one.
You can do yoga and stuff, and...
Hobbycrafts.
They have talent shows and artwork.
Why do prisons have talent shows?
That's probably where Drag Queen Story Hour started.
They least expect her to, you know, get suicided there, obviously.
Wow!
Well, hang on, look at this!
They have a commissary at this prison, in federal prison Tallahassee, where you can get collagen elastin facials for six dollars.
Facials!
Oh, and you can buy smoked Gouda cheese spread and Nutella in the commissary.
That must be the only prison commissary in the world outside of Italy that has Nutella.
Again, just give it a few weeks, a few months, and then, uh... 35 seconds.
You're such a conspiracy theorist.
You're such a conspiracy theorist.
You're such a conspiracy theorist.
Can you believe it?
They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
How do you say that?
Magnificent.
Breaking news!
Ghislaine Maxwell, convicted of 20 years of sex trafficking for, uh, what was his name?
Epstein.
She has been moved to a low security federal prison in Tallahassee, where she will be allowed to spend up to $360 a month in the commissary, which offers I'm not joking.
I'm reading this right now.
Collagen elastin facials for $6.22 in the prison.
And where she can buy little tubs of Nutella for $4.90.
I don't think there's any prison in the world outside of Italy where you should have Nutella in the local commissary.
But this is how they punish Ghislaine Maxwell.
Tell me what you think about it.
833-33 Gorka.
That's 833-334-6752.
8333-Gorkovitz, 833-334-6752.
Gene Sacramento.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yeah.
I saw something I thought was funny.
I want to pass it on to you.
Somebody wrote an acronym on the wall for the word Democrats.
Don't expect morons or clowns to recognize anything that's sensible.
Yeah.
I'm not sure that's funny.
That's just a statement of fact.
But thank you, Gene.
Judy, line two.
Judy, line two.
Welcome.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Can you hear me?
I can.
Great.
So, I just want to comment.
President Trump took one dollar, because he serves the people.
But the difference is, when you got the Bidens, or the Pelosi's, or the Clinton's, or de Blasio's, they serve themselves, not the people.
And the only place they should serve, as far as I'm concerned, is time in jail.
What do you think?
I wholeheartedly agree, absolutely.
Long time in jail with no Nutella.
Antoinette, line five.
Hey, Dr. G, I'm with Judy.
Yeah, they need to go to prison.
Listen, my two pronouns you can call me, Lady Antoinette or La Mujer.
And the major La Mujer you had on was Myra Flores yesterday on your program on Newsmax.
Wasn't she good on Newsmax?
Wasn't she great?
Oh my God, she was fabulous!
And Dr. G, if you ever see that witch, Nancy Pelosi, she needs to go to hell.
I'm sorry, she's evil.
Well, I don't think it's a question of needing to go to hell.
I think it's quite clear that she will go to hell, given what she's done.
Pro-abortion, how corrupt she is, her husband.
I don't think this is a question... Unless she has a deathbed recantation and says she is truly sorry for all her crimes, I think we know where she's going.
Right, Antoinette?
Oh, God, yes.
Dr. G., being Hispanic, Latina, here in California, I'll tell you, we are doing our best to educate.
But that young kid that did the shooting, do you know the majority of those people that were killed at that shopping center were Latino?
So who the hell are the Democrats to say, you know, they do not care about us as Latinos?
They do not care for our country.
Well, the way they care about you is, as Mayra says, they want to erase you with new words like Latins.
Thank you Antoinette.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
This is America First.
This is America First.
This is America First.
I do.
Please be seated.
When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
When I was six, I wandered streets by myself.
You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
Someplace in my life, the roads split off.
I had gone to the seminary.
I had gone to all-white schools.
I was never gonna be a part of that world.
I was never gonna be white.
The problem is, I could never go back completely to the world I came from.
We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
And then I asked God, if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
I want my candidacy to unify our country.
I was under constant attack.
You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
That's when all heck broke loose.
Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
We know exactly what's going on here.
This is the wrong black guy.
He has to be destroyed.
You really didn't matter.
What mattered was what they wanted.
So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my oath and did my best.
But you could make a whole movie on the Russiagate hoax.
It's all documented.
There was an illusion being created using the most awesome tools and the greatest tricks that the American intelligence community had learned to use against our enemies.
Now it was being deployed against the American people and our president.
This is the biggest political scandal in modern history which makes Watergate look like a tiff.
The FBI director has no credibility.
The left used to not trust the FBI.
And now they love them.
This can happen to General Michael T. Flynn.
Imagine what they do to anybody who has a single strike against them.
35 Russian diplomats in the U.S.
expelled.
The prosecution of General Flynn wasn't a pursuit of criminal activity.
It was a setup.
Flynn actually had details.
He was talking about going after people's budgets.
They were terrified.
Media didn't start as neutral.
Media hasn't been neutral all its life.
The two faces of Hillary Clinton are coming out.
In fact, through WikiLeaks, that she says one thing and...
Oh, no.
They worked hand-in-glove with Comey to try to delegitimize Trump.
They were not there to tell the truth.
A political dirty trick is being carried out by our intelligence community.
Honestly, none of us really know, sort of holistically, what to think about this dossier.
They went into Congress.
They said, nothing here.
Doesn't matter.
We'll keep going with FISA.
We'll keep going with the investigation.
And more importantly, we will go on TV, day in and day out, and lie to the American people to their face.
And nothing's going to happen to us.
The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread.
And the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum!
Russian scum!
We had not one person claim that they had or had seen evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians.
Devin Nunes was the hero in the forest.
He was alone, he was mocked, he was attacked.
Devin Nunes was subject to such scorn for saying the conclusions that we brought forth in that report, which all proved to be true.
Russiagate was a false story.
To target their political opposition.
To carry out their insurance policies.
I believe that this is a conspiracy.
These guys have perpetrated the greatest crime against the American people ever seen.
It was a coup d'etat.
This is how sick and twisted these people are.
I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community incidentally collected information about U.S.
citizens involved in the Trump transition.
It was shocking to see some of the over-classification that was done to hide either corruption or abuse of authority and just to make sure certain agencies didn't look bad.
We have a peaceful transition of power process.
That's not what happened.
There were more meetings.
There were more leaks.
There were more attacks.
The thing that they were investigating the Trump campaign for is what they themselves were doing.
Not just the Democratic Party and their operatives, but also the FBI.
I was writing about the time frame that we lived in.
That we're living in now, I would say it wasn't supposed to happen.
They weren't supposed to know.
The entire time this was going on, they thought this was going to be what sunk the Donald Trump presidency.
And they were just looking for the golden goose, and they still haven't found it because it doesn't exist.
Are we coming in with anything?
No. No.
The Truth The whole truth.
Nothing but the truth.
That's Dr. G's specialty.
America first.
Just when you think they can't sink any lower.
That their moral corruption cannot get any worse.
They do it.
They prove you wrong.
It's kind of easy to forget our goal.
Not a very impressive individual, except in his girth, perhaps.
I always find his voice, like, he sounds stupid.
You know how some people just sound stupid?
Anyway, he's a bilk artist.
He's a con man when it comes to climate change and the icy glacial melting, the polar bears dying.
But he's back.
And if you thought that it would be unconscionable for a Democrat to exploit the death of 19 young children just to make more money or to make a political point, you'd be wrong.
This is what he said this week about the climate and his connection, or his connecting it, to the massacre of children in Uvalde, Qatari.
You know, the climate deniers are really in some ways similar to all of those almost 400 law enforcement officers in Uvalde, Texas, who were waiting outside an unlocked door While the children were being massacred, they heard the screams, they heard the gunshots, and nobody stepped forward.
And confronted with this global emergency, what we're doing with our inaction and failing to walk through the door and stop the killing is not typical of what we are capable of as human beings.
Stop the killing?
19 children murdered by the act of a mass killer.
And you're using it to sell more copies of your documentary?
I'll talk to you about why.
It really is a question of saving the Republic and a very interesting conversation I had this weekend with some of the brightest people in America and also across the pond.
But we have some calls.
Oh, let's go to line two.
What does Jared in Philadelphia want?
Oh, I just want to know when you're gonna, you know, maybe come up with some new t-shirts, new Trump apparel.
Maybe like a yesterday's hard word for me t-shirt.
Something like that.
Did that take a long time for you to think up or did your mummy do that for you, Jared?
And why do you think it's funny?
How does a moron become president the first time he runs?
How does a moron become president the first time he runs?
Answer me that.
Yeah, because we live in a very broken country with a lot of very broken people who support a very broken man.
Oh, so you're blaming the 64 million Americans.
They're the problem.
Are you like a fascist who would like to have them killed in gas chambers?
Pardon?
Are you a fascist who would like to have them killed in gas chambers?
Yes, Dr. Gorka.
Oh, well, there you go.
So, I mean, what mental age are you?
Three?
Oh, yeah, well, I'm catching up to Trump then.
Yeah, because you'd win.
You'd win a presidential election, Jared, right?
Nah, man.
We'll see.
Yeah, because you're going to run for office, right, Jared, from your mom's basement eating your Hot Pockets?
Oh, is that where I am?
I know it's where you are.
You're a sad little boy.
Now give your mommy her phone back.
Goodbye, Jared.
Let's go to Brent, Los Angeles.
God's Guardian Gorka!
Were you impressed with Jared there, the height of rhetoric?
I'm not very impressed with him, but I have a t-shirt, and I think it should go, Atheism is a euphemism for Satanism.
Ooh, that, hang on, that's a good, you always bring your A-game, but that is a good one.
I'm gonna have to write this down, hang on.
Atheism is a euphemism for...
Finish it off?
Satanism!
I think that is absolutely superb because it is right.
That might have to be one we have to send to Randy, our master of merch, because it's true.
It's true.
You're denying... I was having this conversation with my friends this weekend and I thought, if you just look around you, if you just look at the world, Brent, If you look at a butterfly, a strawberry, a child's face, the idea that you could deny the existence of God, you really have to be a cretin.
I'm sorry.
Absolutely.
And we have to stop calling it atheism.
I think atheism is just one of Satan's finest scams.
Well, of course.
What is it, C.S.
Lewis?
I think it's the Screwtape Letters who writes, the greatest con in human history is that the devil convinced the world he doesn't exist.
And they're absolutely right.
All right, I'm going to send that idea to Randy.
Superb, my friend, superb.
Let's go to David, waiting patiently, Scottsdale, Arizona, line four.
Hey, Sebastian, how are you?
Good!
Welcome back.
Hey, thank you.
I just wanted to call in and tell you I was at the Trump Rally in Prescott, Arizona.
Oh, I want to hear this.
Okay, so how hard was it to get in?
How long did you have to wait in line?
Actually, I got there early.
I went straight in.
Big air-conditioned stadium.
Super nice.
Did you have a good vantage point?
Oh yeah.
Here's where I sat.
20 feet away from Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Kelly Ward, Andy Biggs, Mike Lindell.
They were all there.
It was super MAGA.
Did you get some good selfies, my friend?
I did.
I got video and selfies and Sheriff Joe came out and greeted everyone.
President Trump came on about 8 o'clock.
Amazing speech.
He was here for Carrie Lake.
Yes.
I mean, the place, there must have been 3,000 plus, Sebastian.
But she's going to win, right, David?
I hope so.
Well, let me tell you something real quick.
Trump pulled in 3,000 plus in Prescott, Arizona.
On the other side of the valley, unfortunately, was Vice President Pence with Karen Taylor Robson.
300 people.
It's, I mean, it's really, it kind of It is.
some kind of utter detached from from reality if you're if you're a conservative or you call yourself a conservative the idea that you're going to have a competing rally with a man who can fill stadia with tens of thousands of people it means you're just not in touch doesn't it it is i mean obviously robson is part of the rhino family's She's part of the McCains.
It's all McCain money.
It's completely different.
You've got the MAGA crowd and then you've got the old school Rhinos.
And it just shows you the difference.
$3,000 for Trump.
$300 for Robson.
Yeah.
Stunning.
Thank you for that.
I'd love to see some of those pictures.
Here is the quintessence.
We've been speaking about Adam Kinzinger.
Even worse than Kinzinger is Liz Cheney with a very amusing statement she made at the weekend on, of course, CNN.
Cut three.
Cut 13.
Sorry.
Cut 13.
You know, as I said, I'm fighting hard.
No matter what happens on August 16th, I'm going to wake up on August 17th and continue to fight hard to ensure Donald Trump is never anywhere close to the Oval Office, ever.
Now think about what it takes to say that.
You're a serving representative of Congress, elected by a district in Wyoming, and you're saying That you're going to do everything in your power to prevent another American who happens to be in your party from becoming president.
So what happens Liz Cheney if he's elected president?
What are you going to do then?
Is the will of the people antithetical to you?
What measures are you going to take If we, the people, as it says in our founding documents, decide that we want him back, what does it demonstrate regarding your attitude to how we choose our representatives and our executives?
And who do you think you are That you get to stop the will of the American people.
There is no better exemplar of why we elected a non-politician to become president because of people like you, Liz Cheney.
People who deem themselves to be better than their fellow man.
Who deem themselves to be above the unwashed masses.
I, one person, gets to decide who should be president and I'm going to stop them.
Good luck Liz Cheney because you're going to be a forgotten nobody in a matter of months.
And I wonder what you're going to say if and when we do pick him and he wins.
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Thank you.
What's the first clip we played with him?
Three and a half minutes.
Um, it was... Oh, cut nine.
That was... Kinzinger.
Trump becoming irrelevant.
Alright, let me just read these things first.
Can you record these?
Oh, where's Jeff?
Jeff's... He's calling someone on Skype.
Okay.
It's... Yeah.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
A legend.
A legal immigrant.
Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Welcome back, dear friends, the international system.
Well, the tensions are escalating.
Shockingly enough, this time it's because of something not the Biden administration has done, but the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, has a planned trip to Taiwan, and the Chinese are threatening potentially some kind of military escalation.
Is it bluff, or does it actually mean we are on the brink of something kinetic happening?
In that part, that troubled part of the world, let's talk to the man we trust implicitly on all matters Chinese, on the sinology, the strategy of our only strategic threat.
He is Gordon G Chang.
You can follow him at GordonChang.com.
Twitter, Gordon G Chang, the author of The Great US-China Tech War.
Gordon, welcome back to America First.
Thanks Seb, thank you so much.
So before we get to this actual issue with regards to Taiwan, Nancy Pelosi, I have to ask you a question that I probably should have asked you a long time ago because it affects every time we get you on this show, all your great contributions.
Is there a method you use to separate That's a great question.
There is nothing which is definitive.
Beijing from the serious signals of what they're using?
How do we know when it's just empty bluster and rhetoric and when it's really a threat to not only our security but the security of our friends like Taiwan? - That's a great question.
There is nothing which is definitive.
The way that I try to separate out the signal from the noise is basically just reading everything.
And that you get a sense of where things are going.
Because, for instance, you mentioned Speaker Pelosi's proposed trip to Taiwan.
There's been a lot of propaganda, but you also got to put that into the context of what's happening inside China as well, things which are seemingly unrelated.
So it's really just a sense.
And, you know, people will come with different conclusions, but I think that's the way to do it.
All right.
I love that piece of advice.
Just absorb as much information as possible.
Then you have the best sense of where there are discrepancies, repetitions, trends and so forth.
So let's talk about this specific case.
Nancy Pelosi's trip.
Is it advised?
Is it ill-advised?
The measure of the response?
How significant is this event?
I think this is especially significant because my sense, and it's only a sense, is that it's more than just bluster at this time.
And the reason is, it has nothing to do with Pelosi or nothing to do with Taiwan.
It has to do with Beijing's perceptions of the Biden administration.
They believe that the administration is in disarray.
And actually, we have seen this, for instance, last week in the president's comments about the Speaker's trip, which really were ill-advised.
Because what they did, on Wednesday, he said, well, look, the military doesn't think it's a good idea.
Well, it's not up to the military.
It's up to the President of the United States.
He's the one.
He's the only one who makes the policies.
And what he did by sort of revealing what the generals and admirals told him was it emboldened Beijing because it told the Chinese, look, there's a division inside the Biden administration.
That gives Beijing the incentive to intimidate the Bidens even more than usual.
I'm just scrolling down your Twitter feed.
You are a man in demand.
Media hit after media hit.
And I just want to talk about The private sector.
Because you have a story here that I've just tried to retweet.
And it's a very good warning.
You say, beware when tyrants think their musings have universal significance.
Xi Jinping now fancies himself as a philosopher king.
And you embed this link to an article from the People's Daily.
And there's a warning at the bottom of your tweet.
This tweet links to a China state-affiliated media website.
Gordon, seriously, Twitter?
Silicon Valley that's in bed with Communist China is now putting warnings on your tweets?
Is this a joke?
Well, who knows what they're doing at Twitter, you know, and hopefully Elon Musk will go ahead and buy it.
But the point here, though, is that People's Daily is sort of illustrating the state of mind of Xi Jinping, who has now got it in his head that he's not only a tyrant, he's not only the leader of China, but he's also this philosopher.
And I think that it's really gone to his head.
And that's a result of this system where it's top-down, where he's built this cult of personality, where everybody tells him how smart he is.
And that leads him, I think, to do things that wouldn't happen in other political systems, where people would say to the leader, no, you shouldn't do that.
Nobody is going to do that in China these days.
Explain to us the latest developments.
How, yes, he sees himself as a philosopher king.
He's basically changed the constitution that he can be emperor for life.
Nevertheless, there are certain things that even a dictator, a bloodthirsty dictator cannot ignore or will ignore at their peril.
What is the state of the economy of communist China after COVID?
And how fragile is it potentially?
I think it's extremely fragile.
I believe that the economy is contracting and I think most economic analysts will accept that even though Beijing reported 0.4% growth in the second quarter of this year.
Very few people actually believe that number.
The problem is you've got symptoms of failure.
So for instance the bank runs.
And also, we have people across China in now what is called the mortgage boycott.
In other words, people are not paying their mortgages on unfinished apartments that they had committed themselves to buy.
That mortgage boycott has now spread to suppliers of property developers who are not paying their loans to the banks.
And we're seeing the debt crisis as big property developers default.
This is important because property in China accounts for somewhere between 25 to 30 percent of gross domestic product.
In other words, it's an enormously important part of the Chinese economy.
We see other symptoms of the Chinese people not wanting to buy things.
The only things that are keeping the Chinese economy from completely failing are robust export sales and also money from Wall Street going into the Chinese equity markets.
But you take out those two things, and I believe that China would be in an obvious free-fall situation.
I'm sorry, regular people refusing to pay their mortgages in the world's biggest communist nation?
That should be big news on the front page of every newspaper in the West, should it not, Gordon?
Yes, and it's not just in a few cities.
It's now spread, as of the middle of last week, to 86 cities, probably even more than that.
See, Chinese people, they buy apartments not to live in, but really to speculate.
It's like a store of value.
Instead of buying a gold coin, people buy apartments.
And now they're seeing that developers can't finish those apartments.
And so the people are just saying, look, I'm not paying my mortgage.
And that, of course, is feeding into the problems in the banking system.
That's big news.
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So how credible, Gordon, you think this thing about biologically targeted weapons is?
Thanks.
That's certainly credible.
The Chinese military researchers for at least five years have been publicly talking about what they call specific ethnic genetic attacks.
In other words, attacks caused by pathogens that will leave the Chinese immune, but kill everybody else.
All right, let's talk about that in the next segment.
That's great.
That's great.
And then where did this report come from?
Because this is the Daily Mail.
This would be Jason Crow, who's a Democratic Congressman from Colorado, speaking at the Aspen Security Forum.
Oh, Aspen.
That was right.
That was right.
Aspen.
Joni Ernst was another one at that event.
Who was?
Joni Ernst, Senator from Iowa.
She was, I think, on the same panel with Crow, but I'm not sure.
All right.
I'm sending you this article, if you can make a buffer out of it, Eric.
all right congratulations i didn't realize you're on the board of uh...
turning point gordon No, I'm not.
No?
That's not me.
I thought that's the tweet you had.
Board member Gordon Chang, yeah.
That's American Conservative Union.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I didn't know you were on the ACU's board.
Congratulations.
It's the foundation board.
There's two boards.
There's ACU, which is the C4, and there's the American Conservative Union Foundation, the C3.
And what's the difference?
What does the foundation do?
The foundation is not allowed to engage in political activities.
Two minutes.
Alright, tell me if you've got that buffer.
Working on it.
Yeah.
All right, 90 seconds, 90 seconds, Gordon. Gordon.
Mm-hmm.
Sounds good.
Can you play me cut 12, please?
I'm kind of trying to get that.
Okay, don't worry about it.
Okay, don't worry don't worry about it.
All right, I think I have that image.
Thank you.
Good.
five seconds.
Killing mics.
Are we coming in with anything?
Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Shocking story from the Daily Mail.
Reporting from the Aspen Institute's conference where a U.S.
Congressman Jason Crowe, never heard of him before, suddenly makes the news.
Why?
Because he says that there could be, in fact, a link between the popular 23andMe genetic ancestry companies And China developing weapons that could target you based on your gene code.
Is this just hyperbole?
Is this scaring people?
Let's ask the man who knows China better than anyone else.
Gordon Chang, what do you make of these accusations that there could be work being done not just on novel coronaviruses, but on genetically engineered targeted diseases?
Well, Congressman Jason Crow is absolutely right.
Chinese military researchers for about a half decade have been publicly talking about specific ethnic genetic attacks.
Those are attacks with pathogens that will leave the Chinese immune but kill everybody else.
And China has been hoovering up DNA profiles of everybody around the world.
At the same time, it is prohibiting the transfer of DNA profiles of Chinese people out of China.
And that, of course, is ominous.
23andMe and the Ancestry companies, the question is, who does their DNA testing?
And in the past, I don't know today, but in the past, They have been using Chinese labs, and that means that when you spit into that cup, as Jason Crow said, you're sending your DNA to Beijing.
I told people for years, never, ever, don't do it.
Yes, it's cute to know who your great-great-grandfather was, or if you're part Lithuanian or what have you, but at the end of the day, if Chinese labs are doing it, it's just like any IP, any intellectual property, they're utterly hoovering it up.
And the idea, so, It's kind of common sense, isn't it?
If we have coronavirus, if we have COVID-19, and we have the only level 4 lab is in Wuhan for military biological weapons research, then why wouldn't the Chinese be using the scads of genetic data for nefarious purposes?
Isn't it kind of common sense?
Well, it is, especially considering the maliciousness of the Chinese regime.
And the other thing is that China's been doing this for quite some time, and they're not really trying to hide it.
But the thing that should get the American people furious, get them white-hot, is that we haven't stopped them.
You know, the Chinese are part of the Biological Weapons Convention, which prevents them from doing this.
And so are we.
And we're not trying to enforce this.
So this is not just a question of Chinese aggression.
This is a question of American passivity.
And on top of that, I have to ask again, layman's question here.
Given The blowback from Wuhan and how many Chinese were killed, do they have any cost-benefit that this too could be playing with fire?
Or does the Politburo and the Central Committee not think like that, Gordon?
I think what they saw was that after this disease got out into China, you know, and the Chinese people, they say it was an intentional release.
I don't think so.
I think it was an accidental release from that lab.
But whether intentional or not, the Chinese leaders then decided that because their society was crippled, they were going to cripple everybody else.
So they lied about transmissibility.
They knew this was highly contagious, but they told the world it was not.
And then, while they were locking down their own country, they were pressuring other countries, including the U.S., to take arrivals from China without travel restrictions or quarantines.
You put those two things together, Seb, and it means that every death from COVID-19 outside China is a murder, because this was intentional.
No, I couldn't agree more.
And the fact that we have a January 6th investigative committee or rather witch trial for a riot that lasted three hours but we don't have anything on the deliberate exploitation of that disease tells you everything you need to know about the Democrat Party.
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Can I hear cut 12?
There are lines that shouldn't be crossed, but those lines involve sitting Supreme Court justices not presiding or or appearing or taking action in cases in which their spouse may be implicated and in this case for Clarence Thomas to issue a decision in a case a dissent in a case
where Congress is trying to get documents, and those documents might involve his own wife, that's the line that's been crossed.
And I think for Congress to be looking into these issues, looking into conflict of interest issues, but here looking into issues, whether it involves the wife of a Supreme Court justice or anyone else, if they have information or a role in an effort to overturn an election, yes, they're not excluded from examination. if they have information or a role in an effort And 11.
Laying out all of these 187 minutes makes him look horrific.
It really does.
And it's for everybody to see.
And the president's inaction and the vice president's action getting on the phone is very telling.
And you described Dan Cox as a whack job, I think was your word.
Like I said, cue a non-whack job.
Okay, cue a non-whack job.
He won, and he won decisively with Donald Trump's endorsement.
You obviously did not endorse him.
What happened?
Why?
Well, it was kind of unprecedented collusion between the Democratic Governors Association and Donald Trump.
And both of them were promoting a conspiracy theory, believing kind of nut job.
And DGA, I think, spent about $3 million.
The guy only spent $100,000 in his campaign.
So it was a win for the Democrats.
It's a big loss for the Republican Party.
And we have no chance of saving that governor seat.
We actually had a chance if they hadn't gotten together and done that.
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Dr. G. Yes.
Okay, so my suggestion for the Communist Party of China is build some surge treatment plants.
I watched a documentary on this stuff.
They have open air trenches.
1.5 million people?
I mean, that's a lot of stuff, you know?
And they wonder why... And with one end, what end are they building these sewage facilities?
No, the documentary stated, and I watched it, they were just huge open-air trenches.
I get it, I get it, I get it.
So why do you want them to build sewage facilities?
To keep viruses down.
Yeah, if they're making them in a lab, it doesn't really matter, but thank you, Joe.
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Dr. G, the Rolling Thunder of Radio Free America, how are you today?
I'm very well.
For Monday, I'm not bad, but carry on.
Great.
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Something on swordplay, something on Aiki Jutsu, something on the good old Judo, Dr. Kano's book itself.
It's funny.
I go past the Taekwondo studio every day as I drive home, Kind of like, you know, I'm getting that feeling, Don, I might have to get back in the dojo.
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We had the likes of Andrew Clavin, Chris Plant, Larry O'Connor, and my buddies from the Trigonometry podcast, the best foreign podcast out there, Constantine Kissin and Francis Foster, who may have started on the left, but who hate wokeness and are fighting wokery every single day.
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And we had fun with the guys.
First things first, we took them shooting.
And here we have a couple of photographs of the lads of Trigonometry from a land that has banned guns.
Here we are with Francis with my Mark 18 AR-15.
And Konstantin, of course, born in the Soviet Union, so we gave him a tricked-out AK-47.
And I'm holding the new Springfield Hellion bullpup.
And then we went shooting!
And here we have the man himself, Konstantin Kisin, with a .44 Magnum Desert Eagle.
Not bad grouping at all, my friend.
These are people who really haven't shot before, but their producer was the best.
So we'll have to take Jeff shooting, because it was their behind-the-scenes man, Anton.
Never shot before.
He was a deadeye.
I took them to the gun show.
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The discussion we had was the following.
They said, why are you conservatives arguing about pronouns?
Why are you wasting time arguing about the culture war?
Because Rome is burning.
To quote Constantine Kissing, he said, the barbarians are at the gate.
Whether it's China, whether it's Russia, whether it's Iran, whether it's North Korea, you guys have to save the world from Western civilization's enemies once again.
And I'm proud to say, all of my friends there, all my fellow radio hosts and podcasters said, no.
We must save America first.
Because if we don't fight for the truth of a man is a man, a woman is a woman, children shouldn't be abused, cut up, in some transgender insane ideological goal, then there is no America left worth fighting for.
And that's why we are here every single day.
And by the end of that discussion, I think we'd convinced them.
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Alright.
All right.
Just like that's the E segment.
How come a prison has a facial clinic?
Thank you.
It's just... Still on that, I, no, I, I... That blows my mind.
White collar prisons, man, I mean, shoot, you see the same thing with, like, drug dealers who go to prison in, like, in Mexico and they get everything that they want, you know, I mean... How do they all get tattoos in prison, which I don't understand?
That's a good question.
Yeah, I bet, I bet the January 6th inmates don't get Nutella.
Probably not.
Natal sucks anyway.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
Yes.
It's terrible.
I could live on... What do you mean it's terrible?
It's a chocolate sauce.
That's what I mean.
It doesn't taste good.
It's horrible.
It doesn't even taste like chocolate.
Eric?
Nutella?
Uh, I... I'm baffled at what I just heard, honestly.
John?
Kill them, Mike.
I've never.
I've never.
Hey, Twitter.
Suspend this.
Yes.
I'm in shock.
I should have started the show on this.
There is a product out there it's called a hazelnut spread which is a lie it's actually a chocolate spread that basically took over Europe when I was a kid and it's the ambrosia of the gods.
It's called Nutella and the best thing you can do is put a big jar of it in the fridge and then just scrape thin layers of that chocolate spread off that semi-hardened chocolate spread off if you're if you're not on a diet and just let it slowly melt in your mouth.
I'm talking about it because Ghislaine Maxwell has been moved to the club fed soft low security federal prison in Tallahassee where she has she can get her lime juice facials and her Nutella at the commissary and then Mr. G says the following.
Jeff what do you think of Nutella?
Nutella sucks.
It's overrated.
The best thing you can do is walk past it in the grocery store and not buy it and not waste your money.
It tastes like watered-down chocolate to me.
You're just saying this to prove... There's no way you believe that.
No, I'm not.
I never actually had it until about a year or so ago because my kids eat it.
So I tried it for the first time and I couldn't believe how bad it was for all the hype that it got.
So I'm just curious.
Do your kids think it's watered-down chocolate?
No, they like it.
Yeah, they do.
Because they're normal!
Eric, your reaction to what Jeff just said?
There is absolutely no justification.
I say we get Mr. G a cell in that prison so he can experience Nutella for himself.
Along with Ghislaine.
And I'm still shocked.
John, what did you say about how you like Nutella?
Never had it.
Where do we find these people?
I mean, seriously.
Never had it.
It sucks.
What do I do?
I need suggestions, guys.
Whoever's watching on Rumble, please help me out.
What do we do with people who hate amazing things?
He doesn't like science fiction and he hates Nutella.
What are we gonna do with him?
Let's squeeze in one more call.
Who have we got in line one?
Line one, are you there?
Yes.
Greetings, question, comment.
I wonder if it's even possible to drain the intelligence swamp.
The FBI, the CIA, and these people.
They have so many ways to get people.
I don't even know if it's possible.
It's a fabulous question.
A really very, very, very good question.
What is it that Chuckie Chuck Schumer said?
They've got seven ways from Sunday to get you.
That's what he said on live television.
But it doesn't matter.
We have to do it.
We have to do it.
Yes, we do.
For the future of the republic.
I agree.
And it's just, you know what it's about.
It's about leadership.
We need hard people, hard men.
Serious men, patriots, not just in the White House, but at the CIA, at the DIA, at the NSA, at the FBI, and they've got a lead.
And they've got to get a big broom, and they've got to sweep out all those people who think they, as unelected bureaucrats, get to run this country.
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I'm agnostic on this question, and I am awaiting more information.
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I had an earlier spell here in the 90s at the Rand Corporation.
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And that's all the more reason that I'm very envious of people when they come up with a really good name for something.
And I'm very annoyed at our guest today for one-on-one, because Brian Dean Wright, he's got it with his new podcast.
It is, of course, the President's Daily Briefing.
Brian Dean Wright, it's been far too long.
Welcome back to America First one-on-one.
Absolute pleasure, sir, as ever and as always.
All right, so congratulations on the name.
I will hate you forever for having the President's Daily Brief as your podcast title, but congratulations.
First things first, I don't know how long, at least a year since you've been on the show, so much has happened in that time.
For those who haven't heard you before, haven't seen or heard of your podcast, let's have a little summary.
You're a former CIA operations officer, Give us the, what is it they call it, the elevator pitch.
The DC elevator pitch.
Who is Brian Dean Wright?
Where does he come from and what does he care about?
I'll tell you what.
I am born and bred in this country.
Love it.
Eastern Oregon.
My family has a farm and ranch.
We've been there since the 1800s.
For about 10 plus years, I worked at the CIA as an officer, an operations officer.
So I went out and recruited spies, stole secrets.
And then for some crazy reason, I got involved in the media world and started writing a bit.
And here we are all these years later, you and I have been able to talk in studio and otherwise, and then having this podcast now we're doing great.
We've got many, many tens of thousands of listeners in just the past four months.
So I'm pretty, pretty excited about what we've been able to accomplish.
Well, congratulations on your new career path.
One thing that you used to say a lot.
Well, let's talk about your political heritage.
It's the tweet that's been pinned at the top of your Twitter feed.
Please follow this guy right now.
Brian with a Y. Brian Dean Wright.
And it's been pinned there since 2017.
It's a very handsome photograph of JFK with a quote.
From 1958, let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer.
Why is that phrase more needed than ever right now, Brian?
Well, I'll tell you two things.
First, could you imagine Jack Kennedy being a Democrat today?
He would be run out of the party so fast, you couldn't even imagine.
Somebody with a robust national security stance, hardcore anti-communist, he wouldn't be letting the door, Brian.
You're absolutely right.
But I think what he said there and why those words resonate for me, and I think for most of us, is that I think we can have our fights and our battles about, say, tax policies or different social issues.
But at the end of the day, two things.
One, we are all American.
And second, That we should always strive to find the right answer.
And actually there was another president, George Washington, who said the same thing in his farewell address.
He warned us about party affiliation and party loyalties.
And so between those two presidents, you know, I think that that one from Jack Kennedy really summarizes it for me.
I don't ultimately care if the best answer comes from either party or no party at all.
Let's just come up with the right answer.
And if I recall well, your family lineage is Democrat, correct?
That's right.
You bet.
Many, many years.
So when you look at what happened last week, it was what, the 8th on Friday or Thursday night was the 8th January 6, Inquisition hearing.
They've promised that they'll restart again in September.
When you look at the party, let's just talk about the party.
We can talk about the Republican Party in a second, but let's talk about the state of the Democrat Party today, and especially what they've done in the last 18 months.
Give us your sit-rep.
I'll tell you, so I left the Democratic Party, and I think a lot of folks, not only in my own family, but others have left as well.
And I think that what we have seen over the past number of years, frankly, is one, very bigoted.
Second, we've seen promotion of violence.
And third, a true hatred of America.
And we've seen multiple examples of that over the past number of years, but we're seeing it yet again here, I think, ever so recently with some of the woke military stuff, this January 6th silliness, and of course within our cities.
I think that what we're seeing, the crime rates throughout this country, the attack on the police, well, the result of that is higher crime.
And those are all policies that are embraced by a Democrat party that I don't recognize.
And so that's why I think a lot of us have left and will continue to do so.
And we saw on, what was it, Thursday night was the stunning news that I reached out to Congressman Zeldin about midnight or 1 a.m.
that event in New York where he's campaigning, he's a combat veteran, military intelligence officer, member of Congress, and then he's attacked And not only is it not condemned until the day after by the White House, the New York prosecutors released the individual who attacked this Jewish member of Congress without bail.
Does that represent the majority opinion?
Forget who people vote for, but does that, as far as you're concerned, reflect the majority opinion in America?
Well, certainly not of America, but certainly the Democrat Party.
I mean, they have embraced this idea of bail reform, and I think in their minds they thought that they were doing the right thing, that we just need to end the military, or I should say the prison-industrial complex.
But the bottom line is that it was sort of one of these traditional lefty-lofty ideas that turns out to be absolutely disastrous for the country.
So, what a horrific event in New York, and thank God he is safe.
But I think it underlines the madness, the tyranny of this moment of the left in this country, you know, embracing their ideological beliefs that are actually completely unfounded.
They're not based in facts or reason.
And that really, I think, is one of the fundamental problems with the party right now.
They're just wrapped up in this hysteria of emotion instead of thoughtful facts and reason.
You've served in the intelligence community.
You've trained the IC, members of the military.
You know the swamp very, very well.
I have to ask you the question I ask the Republican politicians who come on this show.
Have you met today?
Because I can't see it.
You can say I'm in my conservative talk show host bubble, but I'm trying to find those Democrat thought leaders, members of Congress, whatever media types you want to
Who are sane, who you can have a discussion with, or who are prepared to say, you know what Ilhan Omar did yesterday, or the faking of the handcuffs by AOC, or Maxine Waters saying literally, you know, screw the Supreme Court, we're going to resist.
Have you found people who are prepared to voice a little bit of dissent with their own political clique?
No, and I'll tell you, before I left the Democratic Party, the one of the things that I was writing about and I was making phone calls and emails saying, look, you all are going to be on the more conservative or even moderate Democrats.
You are going to be run out of office.
So if for no other reason for your own political survival, stand up to these people, the radical elements of the Democratic Party.
And they didn't.
So I'll tell you in Oregon, my home state, there was a representative who had been there for many years.
I think Schroeder is his name.
Well, he got tossed out by a more radical member of his own party.
And so you see that throughout the country.
They are being tossed aside by the more radical elements.
And they should have years ago taken the advice of most of us who are like, you are losing the party and you're going to lose the country because you deserve it.
You're not standing up for sanity, for this country.
And you're letting the more radical elements, the violent elements, and fundamentally the anti-American elements of the left rise up.
I call it being captured, being taken hostage by your own ideology that you can't even see beyond it.
Do you have any other explanation?
Because it really is political suicide.
I think we will see this in November.
Why they simply cannot step out of this straitjacket.
I think fundamentally it's about fear, right?
So many of us want to be socially accepted, and lord is that true in Washington, D.C.
You know, elected leaders want to be embraced by the press and by, you know, the other elected members.
There's a cult there, right?
It's a culture, but I think it's a cult, but nevertheless.
And so when you exist in that world, particularly for years and years and years, you don't want to step out of line.
I mean, you're incentivized not to really at some level, socially anyway.
And so these creatures of Washington, D.C., even if they're moderates, you know, get caught up in this hysteria.
And so they don't want to stand up.
They don't have enough spine.
And so I think that that's a part of it.
Those swamp creatures love being in the swamp, even if they're otherwise moderate.
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All right, I'm going to jump right in.
I'm still jealous at the title of your podcast, Superb Genius Idea.
Why, Brian Deanwright, did you call it the President's Daily Brief?
What I wanted to do was give people something every morning that was very similar, certainly in the spirit of the President's Daily Brief, the actual one that's given to the President every day.
The idea is that it's fresh information, something you haven't heard from the nightly news until the morning, so that's the first piece.
The second, I wanted to really take time to explain why people should care, especially about international events.
So, why would I care about, let's say, a cobalt mine in the Congo?
Well, I explained, because the Chinese are taking over, and they're going to control the battery supplies that go into things like your phone.
Right.
So those kinds of sort of unique, interesting stories abroad, I want to explain to people why they actually matter.
And then third, we talk a lot about what can we do to solve problems.
Again, in the actual PDB, as you know, there's a big focus on, all right, what do we do with this issue or this problem?
How do we solve it?
So those are kind of the three pieces of the secret sauce of the podcast that are also true of the actual President's Daily Brief.
And I think so far we're doing pretty darn good.
We've got a good number of tens of thousands of viewers or listeners, I should say.
And I think people are really resonating with what I'm presenting.
So I feel pretty good about it.
I'm going to check it out this weekend.
Let's stay on this issue.
I'm so glad that you're talking about trying to convince listeners, Americans, why they need to care about things that, in conventional wisdom, we don't tend to spend a lot of time on.
Why is it, do you think, as a former CIA operations officer, that it is so easy for us, especially conservatives, I see this a lot with former Fox viewers who say, I don't care what's happening in the Ukraine.
Who gives a flip what's happening in Ouagadougou?
We have enough problems at home.
What do you say to those people?
And I know there's a history of isolationism in America from the 1920s, but in today's world, for example, Russia invading another country, sooner or later that's going to have consequences for every American, surely.
You make the very, very important point that for me and for folks like you, it's our job to help explain the why.
You know, why should you care?
So it's a challenge, right?
When you have so many problems and issues in your own country, we are seeing parts of our own society fray.
You know, attacks on our Supreme Court.
We have radical elements tearing down parts of our cities.
It's pretty easy and pretty understandable for you to be mostly concerned about what's happening in your country.
But all the while, the world turns.
And as the world turns, it's my job, I think, as a podcast host to explain really why we should be paying attention to some of these issues like in Ukraine or other spots in the world.
Part of it, I think, is about trade, right?
So a lot of our trade partners abroad buy our stuff.
That means people who are listening right now belong to companies or factories who, whether they know it or not, they're actually sending things abroad, products, services.
But when those countries aren't able to buy our stuff because of coup d'etats or wars or whatever it might be, well that means that we have less factory orders here.
We have fewer jobs here.
So I really work hard to create that connection to help people understand and I think that that's a really fun challenge.
But it's a big one, especially living in a country right now that is in some ways kind of falling apart.
I mentioned it, so let's very quickly deal with the issue of Ukraine.
It's been six months now, almost.
Where is it going?
Why does it matter, Brian?
So, first, why does it matter?
$50 billion is what we have put on the line that we will give to the Ukrainian government in terms of aid, in terms of weaponry.
That's a big deal for every taxpayer.
You should absolutely be paying attention to this.
If this war goes sideways, God forbid, We're talking about a conflict throughout Europe between Russia and China, even potentially, and the West.
So it really, really matters.
We also have this issue of, you know, we're supplying weapons.
So irrespective of what you think about that process, we're sending a whole bunch of different kinds of weaponry to Ukraine to include things like Stinger missiles.
And those will bring down Russian planes, for instance, or Russian helicopters.
They'll also bring down civilian airliners.
So those kinds of issues that we have seen in other places, when we gave, for instance, the Stinger missiles to the Afghans many years ago, we had to chase those around for decades after.
So there are lots of reasons, I think, to care.
And perhaps one more here.
Europe is our largest export trade partner.
So if Europe goes down this winter because they don't have enough natural gas, well that's a big deal.
Their companies start shutting down, jobs go away, they can't buy our stuff.
Our economy, for better or worse, is tethered to what happens in Europe.
So it is a big, big deal.
How is it, as somebody who's been in the intelligence community, who's worked with the IC and our military, that we have, for example, a chairman of the Joint Chiefs, who in February says Kiev could fall in 72 hours, and then four weeks later testifies in the Senate that this could last for years, if not decades.
How does that happen to the most senior military person in the United States?
Well, that guy.
So a couple things.
First, there is an intelligence failure here.
And I think what you saw was most of the people in the intel community or the IC said that Kiev was going to fall virtually immediately.
But there was one group, the State Department's intel groups called INR, they actually didn't think it was going to happen very quickly.
They thought the Ukrainians would actually fight and fight well.
And they did that because they were actually on the ground interviewing people, conducting polls, and they captured what's called the will to fight.
The Ukrainians wanted to stand up for their homeland, and that's what the IC completely missed.
So I think that unfortunately, guys like Millie and others, they're not really paying attention to the intel on the ground, and they're not understanding the complexity of what they're reading, because in Millie's case, he's just not a smart man.
I'll just say it.
He's not, right?
So we had an intel failure in the run-up to the war in Ukraine, without a doubt.
Yeah, not a smart man, also a political animal and as far as I'm concerned a disgrace to the uniform he wears.
A man who says he doesn't know what critical race theory is but he's happy it's being taught at West Point.
A man who says, I'm white and I want to understand white rage.
He probably should understand communist rage a little bit more, or Chinese Central Committee rage, or Kremlin rage a little bit more.
A man who should not be in that position after the disastrous surrender of Afghanistan.
And the absolute intelligence failure when it came to Ukraine.
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Let's talk about something a little bit even more problematic.
Politics in the IC, the intelligence community.
When I joined the White House, I said, deep state, don't believe it.
It's a little bit of a tinfoil hat kind of expression.
Within six days, I knew it was real.
I witnessed it with my own eyes.
I had senior FBI agents tell me The seventh floor of the Hoover building looks at this White House as, quote, the enemy.
We've had former CIA directors call the incumbent president a traitor on live television.
Talk to us about your concerns for the politicization of the intelligence community and federal law enforcement and what you think, as a former practitioner, could and should be done about it.
So this is a remarkably bad problem.
I share your concern.
I know my experience is perhaps different, but we have come to the same conclusion that there is absolutely a politicization of the intelligence community writ large, but most especially at the top.
And then, of course, at the middle and lower tiers, you have the woke stuff, which is degrading the IC and its capabilities as well.
We'll put that aside for a moment.
This politicization piece really comes down to, there was an old spy named Aldrich Ames.
He was a CIA officer who worked for the Russians, unfortunately, the Soviets at the time.
And he was asked why he did it.
And he said, I do it because I know what's best for the nation's security, the national security, and I'm going to act on that.
Right, so it's this idea that people in power who are basically unelected and unaccountable to anyone, they think that they know what's best for you, for I, for the American people.
And it's alive and well.
We've seen it.
James Comey leaked classified information to the New York Times to help bring down Donald Trump, to bring about the appointment of Bob Mueller.
So we know that this isn't some sort of conspiracy.
You've lived it, friend.
But we know in the public sphere that it's real.
So the question is what do we do to stop it?
What do we do to flesh that out?
And I think the first thing you do is you just make it smaller.
You start shrinking the IC, getting rid of some of the individuals at all levels, frankly, because it's just bloated.
And so that'll help, I think, address part of the problem.
And then I think you start engaging in episodic investigations.
Right now there's something called a rolling investigation.
You don't ever just get a clearance and you're done.
So I think that if you Juice that process up a bit and you start looking at people's engagement with media, for instance, or you start asking them questions about their illegal activities.
I think there are creative ways that you can do that on the inside.
But the bottom line is, I think you start talking about it more than anything.
And frankly, you have leadership at the CIA who says it's a problem.
And then you start getting rid of people once you go through that investigative process.
And you just start getting rid of a lot more people because the I.C.
is just too darn big.
What about the legacy clearances?
When you have, you know, politicals like Brennan and like Comey who go on national television to trash a duly elected president and they still have access to the TSSCI clearances.
Is that also something we have to review, Brian?
Oh, we don't have to review it.
We just do it.
That's low-hanging fruit.
We also look at the guys and the gals who join some of these large military industrial complex companies, the Raytheons and so forth.
We start looking at those folks and saying either A, we have a problem here in terms of undue influence, or we actually just ban some of the folks who work for the U.S.
government joining those groups for say 10 or 20 years after the fact, which basically strangles that connection, that pipeline between the Pentagon or the IC And some of these big companies profit off of war or conflict.
So I think that there are ways that we can tighten up what's happening in this country around the politicization and the empowerment, the unlawful empowerment, of some of our most powerful intelligence officials.
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All right, so I've got a couple of specific questions to ask you.
Hopefully they're not too much in the weeds, but I think they're important ones.
When it comes to this idea of the politicization of the IC, and I'm not going We're not going to talk about real cases or anything classified, but what effect does it have when a former DCI, a former Director of Central Intelligence, like Brennan, goes on national television in America with all his clearances intact and says the current incumbent of the White House is treasonous?
What effect does that have on potential walk-ins or People in hard target countries like Iran or Russia who want to help us and then they see, you know, they see this clip from CNN.
Hang on.
The current president is working for Putin.
How much damage can that one interview do to America, not political interests, America's national interests?
Massive.
And he knew that.
And I'll tell you, without going into details, there was an effect.
So the bottom line is John Brennan weakened this country because of his hatred for Donald Trump.
And that's established.
Now, moving forward, what does that also do for the individuals working in the IEC?
It also means that they are incentivized to stand up when they decide, hey, I don't like the current president either.
So what we're doing, two things.
One, we are disincentivizing people from around the world coming to us to say, hey, I have bad information or that's, you know, content that you all need to know, right?
Or I know of an attack that could happen in America.
So I need to share that with you.
Those people are going to avoid coming in from the cold.
Right.
And the second piece, of course, is the individuals that we do have on board are going to get very frightened and scared, our assets and agents, and they might quit, right?
So that's another element to this as well.
That is to say, the people that we've recruited, they now are coming to people like me who meet with them once a month or once every six months or whatever it is, and they say, I don't think I want to be on board with you guys anymore, giving you secrets, because I think you guys are going through a real mess.
I don't trust any of this.
And that's happened too, by the way.
Or I'm going to take my secrets somewhere else, perhaps.
There you are.
One question that's not political at all.
It's kind of sad, but I need your input.
So many moons ago in the 90s when I was in college, I joined the intelligence corps.
So this was the territorial army element of the British Army.
That had an MI brief.
I was an interrogator getting ready for, you know, World War III to pop off if it was going to.
So that's where I began and then I came here, I naturalized, became a civilian in the DoD, worked very closely with the military, with Bragg and elsewhere and the IC.
And the one thing I saw again and again and again, Brian, was this mirror imaging.
It doesn't matter what agency I was at, or whether I was across the fence in Bragg or somewhere, that because we're Americans, that analyst would presuppose that that person in another country, that Hazara ethnic warlord in Afghanistan, or that person they met in Pakistan or whatever, Must think like I do.
And for example, when they say, I want to be your friend, they actually mean it.
And again and again and again, I felt like I was banging my head against the wall that, you know, not everything works like it does in Poughkeepsie.
Did you see this?
And why is it such a perennial issue?
Yeah, so I'll tell you.
We have a lot of folks who assume the best about everybody in the world.
Yes!
Right?
Yeah.
And that there are no real bad guys.
We just misunderstand them.
That we just have to have more conversations.
We just need to have more diplomacy.
Sometimes, no.
Actually, you just have to punch a guy in the face.
Right.
Or shoot them.
Or shoot them.
Well, sure.
And we have a suite of options of things we can do to people who eventually don't listen to us, don't we?
But we're seeing that right now with this current White House, by the way.
I don't know if you saw, very recently, the president of Mexico told Joe Biden that, oh, he was so scared when Joe Biden actually levied a trade dispute with him to say, look, you're blocking American companies from going down to Mexico.
So the Mexican president doesn't even respect us.
So, what does that mean for the rest of the world?
These, you know, thugs and dictators and otherwise, you know, bad folks.
If Mexico, you know, gives us the middle finger, like, what do you think these other people are gonna do?
So, bad leadership or, you know, people who, throughout the IC, who think that everybody is probably a good guy around the world, that naivete is eating us alive.
But it can be recovered, right?
What we saw in 16.
So if you have the requisite leadership, not just in the White House, but at the agencies of the departments, things can be turned around, correct?
Yes, and that is the good news that everybody listening should understand.
When you go to the polls in November, you need to be reminding yourself that this is more than just about one vote or one day.
This really is about the future of the country, and we need to turn things around, in my view.
But the good news is you are right.
Good leadership, strong leadership.
You know, diplomacy, let's do it.
Uh, but we're also not afraid to light somebody up like Soleimani, who was Iran's big general.
Well, President Trump turned him into mist, as he should have.
So, we reach out the hand to shake, but we also have a big stick behind us that's willing to schwack people on the head.
And the woke-ification of the military, when you see the appalling figures last week for not only retention, but inability To recruit the requisite numbers.
How concerned does that leave you?
Not just in terms of politicization, but in fact, you know, not getting enough people to put the uniform on.
So, big deal.
We're actually talking about the folks in the military talking about actually shrinking the size of the force because we don't have enough people joining.
Meanwhile, we're throwing people out because they wouldn't take a vaccine.
Which, by the way, if you look at the data, around 75% plus of people who end up hospitalized are obese.
And most of the folks in the military are not.
So it's just a complete wild disconnect right now, and it really has to do with leadership.
Both Milley and Biden, both absolutely failed leaders.
But I also think that this woke stuff is playing into it too, right?
So if you were told from knee-high that America is bad, that there's the patriarchy, and really ultimately America's irredeemable because of all the white people, Well, what do you really, are you going to stand up and fight for this country?
Are you going to stand up and die for it?
I don't think so.
You're certainly going to, you know, scratch your head and think about it once or twice before you sign on the dotted line to join the military.
So there are very real effects to this sort of leftist revolution that we're seeing in this country.
And it means an inability not to just defend ourselves, which is most important, But if we have friends or allies abroad that need us to step in in moments of tyranny, we're not going to be able to do it.
Not as well as we otherwise would have.
So there are real, real implications for this Millie Biden woke-ization baloney that's happening.
And of course our enemies are following it very, very closely and are very happy about it.
Amen.
Are you kidding me?
China watches this and salivates because they know that someday there is almost certainly going to be not just the covert fight that's currently happening, but potentially an overt fight as well, the conventional war.
And they are weakening us every day of every year.
And this kind of stuff only feeds into their joy for what could come.
Allegedly, it was Trotsky that said it could be Lenin.
It doesn't really matter whence it came from, but the phrase is correct.
You may not be interested in war, but war is definitely interested in you.
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What is your message to those who, in the last two years, well, let's say the last six years, having witnessed what happened to my old boss, to people like me, people in the White House, conservatives, who just say, okay, this is getting creepy, this is getting disturbing.
I'm just going to keep my head down, whether I'm in the CIA, whether I'm a school teacher, and I'm going to try and avoid getting in trouble.
Is that the American way, Brian?
So it will come for you, as you just said earlier, my friend.
This conflict isn't going away, and so we have to stand up and we have to fight it.
So the question for a lot of people is, how?
How do I do it?
Because it just seems overwhelming and dispiriting of what I can do in my local town or county.
But that's actually a big part of the solution.
If people start running for city council, for, you know, school boards, if they start running for, you know, a county sheriff or, you know, a county level position, that's where a lot of power in this country resides.
And you can control a lot of this leftist woke baloney locally.
So take joy, power, you know, in knowing that you can do things on the local level that have a huge, huge difference in how this country moves forward.
And then, of course, at the state legislatures, if you want to run, do that too.
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And on the local level, those local races, that will make a difference.
And then, yes, on the federal level, that's going to be a much bigger challenge.
You want to dive into that and run or support somebody, great.
But everybody can do something locally, and we have to.
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Last thing, if you... I remember the lady from Langley who used to brief President Trump for his presidential daily briefings.
If you were that briefer going in there, what is the one issue that would keep you awake at night that you would tell the President to take as his priority?
What is it right now, Brian?
China.
China, China, China.
And I'll tell you, unfortunately, we're not going to fix that with this president, but that is absolutely, well, we are being attacked every day by them.
They are stealing who we are and they will destroy this country if we let them.
Yeah.
I came into the White House expecting to do CT, counterterrorism work.
And then when I got my TS clearance, I started reading the president's daily briefing, you know, scales fell from my eyes and I realized, We're going to deal with ISIS.
We'll deal with Iran.
We'll put North Korea and Russia back in their box.
The only peer strategic threat we face is China, and they are at war with us now, and we need to wake up.
God bless President Trump for at least four years turning it around.
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