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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Black America is leaving the Democrats

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You can't keep up with them, man.
	You gotta go on with your life.
	It's a tricky mother.
	I mean, Fauci, he's like, ah, you know, first he was like, you get your two vaccines and you dance in the street, you walk about with your life.
	Recently he said, OK, we missed it by a little bit, all right?
	You can get two vaccines, two boosters, you still get COVID.
	Three boosters, two more vaccines, you're getting COVID.
	You get another vaccine, you're still getting COVID.
	Buys you seven minutes of immunity.
	That's all you got.
	So now we're coming up for the daily COVID shot.
	Every day you go in like a B vitamin, you get your shot.
	By the time you get to your car, you've lost your immunity.
	But that's a hell of a 39 seconds.
	Things very rarely make me laugh out loud, and when I saw that clip played for me of Dana Carvey hosting the Jimmy Kimmel Show, what was it, three minutes ago, I actually laughed out loud.
	I don't know how he's getting invited back to guest host the show, but Dana Carvey, who we know is a concert, if you've seen his Netflix special, He's actually a comedian, unlike the rest of them.
	Yes, he was making fun of Fauci with his, hey, it's a COVID shot.
	It's a booster.
	It'll give you 37 seconds of immunity.
	But hey, what are 37 seconds?
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First coming to you live from just outside the insalubrious fetid rank swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	Is Joe Biden fit to serve?
	I don't think he was fit to serve the day he was sworn in.
	I don't think he was fit to serve after his second, maybe his first, brain aneurysm.
	We're going to ask somebody who, well, he knows about presidents and their health, the former physician to President Trump, Admiral Ronny Jackson.
	Congressman Ronny Jackson will be with us later in the show with his latest findings on the state of the nation and the health of the commander-in-chief.
	We'll have a ladies second hour with Sam Sorbo and Jennifer Horne.
	Guerrilla journalist Armie Horowitz will be joining us with his latest amazing interviews of Liberals on the street of New York and the things they say.
	And then our good buddy from the Project 21 organization, Horace Cooper, will be with us in studio for the whole last hour.
	First, a little bit of a news update for you.
	Incredible.
	When I saw it this morning, the shooter, the warrior, that's what we've got to call him, Eli Dickin, from that mall, Who managed to neutralize somebody who has planned a mass shooting with two AR-15s.
	The latest report is a correction of what happened at that incident.
	I think the first people I saw post this were the NRA earlier today.
	They said that it took a couple of minutes for Eli to deploy his weapon and to kill the potential mass murderer.
	But in fact, Well, here's the local chief of police making a correction.
	The surveillance video shows Sapperman, that's the dead killer, exit the restroom, which is where he got ready, got his weapons out, at 5.56 and 48 seconds.
	So, let's just say 5.57.
	Next sentence.
	So let's just say 557.
	Next sentence.
	Gotta love it.
	He was neutralized by Eli Dickon at 557.03. .
	It's less than a minute.
	You do the math, it's 15 seconds.
	15 seconds in which that civilian, 22 years old, no prior service record, no background as a law enforcement officer, fired 10 shots in a shopping mall, allegedly from the next street, from 40 yards away, not four feet, 40 yards away, eight of which connected with the killer.
	Now if you compare that just to random police shootings, that's like somebody, who was it, Lauren Bobert tweeted out, hey SEAL teams, we've got somebody you need to recruit right now.
	That's like something out of Terminal List.
	15 seconds, 10 shots, 8 hit the target.
	Part of the story that people aren't discussing adequately enough is where it occurred.
	and what was plastered on the entrances to the Greenwood Mall.
	It was a, quote, gun-free zone.
	Now, however, the state in which that mall is located is what is called a constitutional carry state.
	There are 25 states like Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, West Virginia that recognize there's a thing in the Constitution called the Second Amendment.
	It makes all the others possible.
	And they say that is your authority to carry a weapon.
	That is called constitutional carry.
	Now some states make certain specific requirements that it has to carry it open so everybody can see it.
	Some states, such as this one, said no, you can carry it concealed.
	You don't need a special permit.
	You don't need to get permission from the local police department or give them a reason like New York used to have until that Supreme Court decision.
	Is that only three weeks ago?
	Feels like three months ago.
	No!
	It's in the Constitution!
	You don't have to prove that your life is threatened.
	The fact is, life is dangerous!
	Anybody's life can be threatened, even when they're at home, from a break-in, from a burglar.
	As a result, you don't need anybody's permission.
	So here's the fascinating part of this tale.
	Eli Dickman, Dickon, was carrying a gun, allegedly in a place where you're not supposed to, if you believe the decals on the glass doors.
	You know, the ones you've all seen with the handgun, the crudely drawn handgun, and like the Ghostbusters, red line through it.
	Mmm, gun-free zone.
	That didn't do much to stop the shooter, Sapperman, did it?
	He took his duffel bag, his rifles, his handgun, into that restroom.
	Got ready, came out, killed three people, and within 15 seconds of seeing the threat, the Constitution of the United States was enacted by a brave 22-year-old man called Eli Dickin.
	That is the warrior spirit.
	That is toxic masculinity that we love, and we need more of it.
	He should be celebrated for the rest of his life!
	As somebody, you don't, I don't think you think in 15 seconds.
	I've never, I've had to unholster my weapon three times.
	Not here in DC, but in the last, what, 30 years, three times.
	Never had to fire it, because when you pull out a weapon, certain things, if you're rational, kick in, into the lizard brain of criminals.
	But to actually perceive a threat, arm yourself, engage and neutralize in 15 seconds.
	Could you do that?
	Because one day you might have to.
	The lesson it taught me is, I need to go back to the range and practice some more.
	Which is exactly what I'll be doing this weekend.
	I'll be going to the gun show on Friday, stocking up on ammunition on Friday.
	I'm going to go shooting and see if I can put, from 40 yards, 8 shots out of 10 into a kill zone of an IPSC target in 15 seconds.
	I doubt it.
	I'm pretty good!
	But, you know, good at speed is another thing.
	What about you?
	Are you ready?
	If not, why not?
	What's your excuse?
	Are you scared of guns?
	Do you think that you're invincible?
	Do you think that no crazy person is ever going to cross your path?
	Do the right thing.
	Follow the philosophy.
	I'd rather be armed than not need it.
	Than not armed and need it.
	We salute you, Eli Dickin.
	And may the man you kill rot in hell in perpetuity.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Yeah.
	Hey buddy, where are you?
	Uh, hey Seb, how are you man?
	Good.
	Oh, we're losing you.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	We lost you now.
	We hear you but no video.
	Okay, how's that?
	Alright, let's pop us in here.
	Getting situated.
	Alright, how's the audio?
	Uh, it's good, but you're sideways.
	Yeah, hold on a second.
	Trying to get to the, uh... Okay.
	Keep talking.
	Back upright.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	I can't seem to get... Oh, there we go.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	How's that?
	Oh, that looks good.
	Yeah.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	So where did you film this film?
	So in the West Bank.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	The Americans you're interviewing.
	The Castro District of San Francisco.
	Oh, San Francisco.
	Castro District.
	And then you went to the West Bank.
	Correct.
	All right, stand by.
	All right, we're going to show a clip from SF and then you'll explain its relevance, all right?
	Okay.
	All right, how's your mom?
	How's your mom?
	She is well, thank you.
	Give her my best.
	I will.
	40 seconds.
	You want her right now?
	Yes.
	All right, because somebody's ringing the doorbell.
	I want to make sure they don't ring it again.
	You got 30 seconds, go.
	Okay.
	All right.
	20 seconds.
	I'm going to do Israel.
	Yes.
	you you Thank you.
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	So if you're really in, if you really follow the stories of the swamp and MAGRA against the swamp, you've been asking yourself for a couple of years now, what happened to those documents President Trump promised would be declassified?
	Well, we've got the answer here.
	from John Solomon and the National Archives.
	And it will shock you.
	So don't go anywhere.
	I'm going to read to you what has happened.
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	First things first.
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	First guest of the day.
	He is a guerrilla journalist.
	Not a gonzo journalist.
	He's a guerrilla journalist and he does stuff that nobody else has the The Stones to do.
	He's our good buddy.
	Armie Horowitz, welcome back to America First.
	Always a pleasure.
	Wow, I'm the guest of the day?
	I'm so honored, Seth.
	Well, I didn't quite say that.
	That was a little bit of a leap there.
	Don't go fake news.
	I said first guest of the day.
	You may be guest of the day, but we shall decide based upon your performance, and then I shall consult with your mother and get the final verdict on how her boy did.
	So, You've been doing some amazing work.
	You went to San Francisco to the Castro District.
	You asked some people about, oh, gay rights, Israel, homophobia.
	And then you decided to go to the region and kind of do a fact check, because nobody does fact checks anymore.
	First little clip from your movie, these are Americans talking about victimization.
	Do you tend to side more for one side versus the other?
	Palestine.
	We are here to support the Palestinians and give them the right to freedom and the right to self-sovereignty.
	And also for Israel to sort of maintain its ground and stay in its own lane without infringing on the journeys of others.
	I mean, my ex-wife and I talked about it a lot.
	That's quite frankly how I learned more about it.
	But it was really about, like, f*** Israel for being such bullies.
	I tend to have more sympathy toward those I perceive as persecuted.
	Like the victims?
	Yes.
	That would be the Palestinians?
	I believe so, yeah.
	I'm really more so just for human rights mainly, so like I want Just people that have good rights and I want people to be safe.
	I feel uncomfortable being a gay person in Israel.
	Just when I was visiting.
	When you were there.
	I was worried.
	Like?
	About what?
	Being attacked or something.
	Do you think most people, most gay people tend to side more, especially younger people, tend to side more with the Palestinians versus the Israelis in general on the conflict?
	Um, I would say yes.
	In general, the gay community seems to be more supportive of Palestine because of the human rights situation. 100%.
	Now as you heard, Armie, I'm going back to Israel this November for, I don't know, the 6th, 7th, 8th time I've been there many times.
	You've been there as well.
	I'm trying to remember what the state of persecution of homosexuals is in Israel.
	Let me think.
	Oh yeah, it doesn't exist.
	I was there during Pride Week.
	You know, one of the most bizarre things to see, and we see it on that video, is this weird, strange bedfellows of the LGBTQ community and the Palestinians.
	And the reason for that is the idea of intersectionality.
	That they look at their victim status and say, we're victims, you're victims.
	And that bond, bizarrely, is stronger than their own human rights.
	That's what's unbelievable.
	So explain that.
	So explain that when you go to the West Bank, when you actually go to Palestinian territories, what is the reality for how many pride parades did they have on Palestinian Authority land?
	Zero.
	In fact, what they do, and we went, I went to the West Bank.
	I didn't go to, I could have gone to Gaza.
	I didn't want to be that obvious to interview the Islamic radicals.
	I want to interview the so-called moderate Palestinians in the West Bank.
	And when I went there, this is what I received.
	I got things like, they should be raped, and murdered, and hospitalized, and put in concentration camps.
	And in fact, not only should they be, they are.
	I spoke to an imam, a popular imam in Ramallah, and I asked him, have you ever had somebody come up to you and say, look, I've got a gay child, what should I do?
	He goes, of course.
	And what did you say?
	They should be killed.
	This is the common refrain, the common reaction you get from Palestinians, from their so-called partners that they are aligned with.
	But the beauty of this video was at the end, I went back to those you just saw in that clip you just played.
	And they are actually watching my video in real time.
	It becomes a reaction video.
	And the reaction is they're aghast, they're shocked.
	And when I asked them, what do you think now, to a person, after watching a 12 minute video, change their mind completely.
	Because the reality, when it's so stark, and obvious, and visceral, and they watch it, they flip like that.
	So I'm curious, so you actually got them to actually spend time and watch your whole video, so they changed their mind?
	How did you convince them?
	I'm a very charming individual.
	Come on.
	I take offense to that.
	But usually these people are so indoctrinated that when they sniff that you're about to give them, you know, contrary evidence, they're like, oh, no, you're a fascist or homophobe or whatever.
	I mean, I'm truly impressed, Armie.
	And in fact, not a single person was jaded by who I am and the position I took.
	And I was honest about it.
	I said, I am very pro-Israel.
	I want you to see this.
	The mistake the pro-Israel community has made is that they have gone positive.
	They've said, look how good we are to gay people.
	And the response to the Palestinian response is you're a Western democracy.
	You don't get a cookie for being good to gay people.
	You're supposed to be good to people.
	And the fact they even weaponized it against Israel by creating this insidiously beautiful term called pinkwashing.
	that you're washing your sins of the Palestinians with our games.
	They've actually turned that around on the Israelis.
	And the idea for this video was we have to go negative.
	We have to show them who they're at, the true face of their allies.
	And when you do that, it works.
	All right, I have to hold you over because I presume you have been following the handcuffing incident, the arrest of Ilhan Omar and AOC and the brutalizing and the leg shackles and the handcuffs.
	And I need to unpack that with our good buddy.
	Yeah, the fist in the air, the revolutionaries who have to fake getting handcuffed.
	Show you the footage.
	If you've been in a cave for the last 24 hours, we will show you what we're talking about.
	But in the meantime, you know, I'm going to post it right now.
	We've got a big clip from PragerU.
	In the meantime, you've got to follow this gentleman, Armie Horowitz.
	Filmmaker, guerrilla journalist, lover.
	ArmieHorowitz.com.
	Armie Horowitz on Twitter.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	We'll be back with my good buddy, Armie, after these messages.
	All right, mics are still hot in the break army.
	All right, how was that?
	Good, really good.
	Have you seen our LGBTQ merchandise army?
	No.
	Let's show him our merchandise, because I think he needs to be wearing one of these the next time he goes to Gaza.
	Can we put that up on the screen?
	Because we are completely LGBTQ here, Armie, and I hope you are too.
	It's our t-shirts and mugs in American and rainbow colors that say, let's get Biden to quit.
	I love it.
	All right.
	All right.
	When are you going to come to the swamp?
	Are you ever in the swamp?
	I am.
	I have not been for a couple of months, but I actually do plan on making a trip for the next few weeks.
	Alright, the next time you come, let's have an hour-long chat in studio.
	There's a call coming in line one.
	Just tell Jeff beforehand and then we'll get you in studio.
	Okay, okay.
	Yeah, I'd love to do it.
	And by the way, I'm happy to do the Newsback show if you guys want me to do that as well.
	Good.
	Yeah, we'll find a reason.
	We do thematics, so this week it's the State of the U.S.
	Economy, but we will find a place to plug you in.
	Eric, get cut 12.
	How's life?
	And by the way, the State of the U.S.
	Economy is no bueno.
	Yeah, that is your expert opinion.
	No bueno.
	That's my technical, economic assessment.
	Good.
	Do you want a short Biden cut from just now?
	Yeah, what is it?
	A little gaffe.
	Yeah, what is it?
	He said he had cancer.
	Oh, that one!
	Yeah, I saw it on Twitter.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Can you come in with that?
	Give me a second.
	Is it too short to come in with?
	Do I have to tee it up?
	You can just play it.
	It's like eight or nine seconds.
	Alright, play it.
	Let me see it.
	I gotta get it here real quick.
	And then I'm gonna use the AOC one with Army as well.
	The AOC again.
	Um, yeah.
	It's not again, it's we haven't used it before.
	We used it yesterday.
	The one with the handcuffing?
	Yeah, we played it.
	Oh, we did?
	Yeah, because you reacted.
	We described it because you have to describe it on the radio.
	But yeah, okay, here's the Biden cut.
	Give it to him.
	Off the window.
	That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer.
	And why can't, for the longest time, Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.
	I love that he's standing in front of what looks like Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome, like a wiped out scrapyard.
	I mean, it's just perfect for his administration.
	Just perfect.
	And that's just a b-roll, right?
	Well, there is audio to it, so... Do you want me to just mute it?
	Yeah, just mute it.
	Okay, give me a second then.
	Alright, 60 seconds, Army.
	Yep.
	Life is good?
	Yeah, thank God.
	Life is good.
	Life is good.
	How about you?
	Excellent.
	My son graduated and he's back home and now he's just applying to med school, so it's great to have him back from California.
	Where did he go to school?
	He graduated from Stanford.
	I'm familiar with that institution.
	And he's still a conservative.
	That's a testimony to you and your wife, by the way.
	Thank you.
	People who bemoan to me, oh, my child became a leftist.
	Yeah, that's on you.
	So true.
	So true.
	Stand by.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	The only man standing between the radical left and your cheeseburgers.
	It's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	They're not getting my cheeseburgers, I tell you that.
	I might have lost 34 pounds, but I still love my cheeseburgers.
	Good protein!
	President Trump has just walked back into the cathedral after the funeral service for his late wife.
	Probably going in to say hello to somebody.
	We'll keep you apprised of any breaking news from elsewhere.
	But Joe Biden has just said the following.
	I know he had two brain aneurysms, but I didn't know this.
	He literally just said this at the podium in some wasteland somewhere.
	Play cut.
	Off the window.
	That's why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer.
	And why can't, for the longest time, Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation.
	Why I and so many people I grew up with have cancer.
	I'm glad we've got Admiral Ronny Jackson on next, former physician to President Trump.
	But we are still discussing the double standards that exist on the left.
	Armie Horowitz has got a brand new film out.
	You've got to see.
	You've got to follow him, Armie Horowitz, on Twitter, ArmieHorowitz.com.
	However, as a guerrilla filmmaker, I have to ask you about this.
	We played this yesterday on the show.
	This is the footage of the great, great resistance fighter AOC being arrested yesterday outside the Supreme Court.
	As you see, she's being escorted away by the police officer with her hands shackled behind her back.
	Until she decides that she wants to wave at somebody.
	Number one, you have to be really stupid when you are pretending to be arrested to say, hey, as if people won't realize that you're waving with a hand that's supposed to be shackled behind your back.
	But on the flip side, what does it say?
	And what does it say about a human being That they want to fake being arrested.
	As a fellow human being army, help me out here.
	What does it say about that?
	Oh, by the way, Ilhan Omar did it about 10 seconds later.
	Yeah, maybe she's showing off her David Blaine abilities to get out of handcuffs.
	The only thing she normally fakes, I'm assuming, is orgasms.
	But I guess she's also doing handcuffs as well.
	You know, it's...
	It kind of really exemplifies who she is, right?
	Yes.
	What she is is basically just a show.
	There's no depth.
	There's no reality to her as a congressperson, right?
	Former cocktail lady.
	So, and everything she's talked about is fake, right?
	Her growing up in the dirt poor Bronx, that narrative is all fake.
	She is a fake congressperson.
	She's not a real congressperson.
	The whole thing is A Potemkin village.
	It's all a show.
	This exemplifies what she's been about while she's been in Congress, and I'm assuming before that as well, so it's par for the course.
	I don't want to put words into your mouth, but I'll say something, then you can react.
	Yeah, I agree with you that it's all about fakery, and it shows how much of a husk of an individual she is.
	But there's also... I'm trying to put myself in her position.
	There's also the moral question.
	I mean, that was a conscious decision.
	She sees the cameras.
	She sees the people holding up their iPhones.
	She knows that she's obstructing the thoroughfare.
	That's why she was physically moved, because she was obstructing traffic.
	And then she makes a decision, I'm going to fake being arrested.
	I mean, doesn't that show moral decrepitude as well?
	Well, it shows a couple of things.
	First of all, it's her obsession with victimhood.
	She wants to be a victim so badly that she will fake being arrested.
	By the way, the Capitol Police that she was excoriating not that long ago, maybe just a few days ago, she was talking about how unsafe she feels around the Capitol Police, how she doesn't know which Capitol policemen are out to get her, out to shoot her, out to kill her.
	This is what she said.
	So this is par for the course for her.
	But she is so obsessed with — again, this is the left.
	This is not just her.
	It's exemplifying of the left.
	It's clarifying of the left.
	It's this need to be a victim when you're not a victim.
	She's a congressperson, right?
	She is one of the most successful people in the world.
	And she needs to feel like she is under attack and know what, better way to do that than say, look at me, they actually have to physically restrain me.
	I think that's what it's more about.
	No, I think that nails it.
	And there's one last question.
	I think we're going to give him his tasking order for his next investigative journalism piece.
	Geoff, what was the temperature?
	I mean, it's flipping hot today.
	I mean, it's hitting almost 100.
	Yesterday, it was pretty toasty in the swamp, wasn't it?
	Yeah, it was definitely in the 90s.
	Yeah, it was in the 90s.
	And as you can see from the footage, AOC was wearing an almost full length grey tweed coat.
	Why?
	I need ARMY to get on the case.
	Yes, quickly.
	I was going to say that, you know, on this whole global warming thing, I swear I put up nothing, is that the New York Times, every last three days, front page has been, look at the heat, the heat, it's global warming.
	But when there's a cold snap and people on the right say, look, it's cold, they say, no, no, no, no, you can't look at a few days weather and say that's the larger trend.
	I don't know, I just love it.
	I've got one response.
	It's a very complicated one.
	It's called the summer.
	Follow him.
	Armyhorowitz.com.
	Army Horowitz on Twitter.
	The latest film, as ever, is superb.
	Love to your mother.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	What was... Who posted the Dana Carvey last night?
	Was that you, Jeff?
	He says yes.
	That's excellent.
	Excellent.
	Good for you.
	Titles.
	It's got 11,000 likes, Jeff.
	likes, Jeff.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	Titles.
	Anolog and army.
	Could you do what Eli Dickin did?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Do what Eli Dickin did.
	E-L-I.
	And then... Army.
	And put, put Warrior Eli Dickin.
	Uh-huh.
	And then Eli... Army.
	Army, um... What's a good title?
	Help me out, Eric!
	I mean, well, which one do we hit?
	The Israel stuff, or the... Oh, AOC!
	Gotta be AOC.
	AOC's invisible handcuffs?
	Yes.
	Good.
	No, AOC's magic handcuffs.
	I have that Trump cut, too.
	It's cut 12.
	Oh, can you play it?
	Play that one guy.
	Go ahead.
	I said to the doctor, it was Dr. Ronny Jackson, I said, is there some kind of a test?
	An acuity test.
	And he said there actually is, and he named it, whatever it might be.
	And it was 30 or 35 questions.
	The first questions are very easy.
	The last questions are much more difficult.
	Like a memory question, it's like you'll go person, woman, man, camera, TV.
	So they'd say, could you repeat that?
	So I said, yeah.
	So it's person, woman, man, camera, TV.
	Okay, that's very good.
	If you get it in order, you get extra points.
	Okay, now he's asking you other questions.
	Other questions.
	And then, 10 minutes, 15, 20 minutes later, you say, remember the first question?
	Not the first, but the 10th question?
	Give us that again.
	Can you do that again?
	And you go person, woman, man, camera TV.
	Hello?
	Yeah, it's done.
	We're going to play the first 20 seconds, and then I'm going to give you the signal, all right?
	OK.
	Admiral, are you there?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	How are you doing?
	Hey, great.
	Thanks for joining us today.
	We're going to have some fun.
	All right.
	All right.
	seconds and we're live.
	Hmm.
	Transcription by CastingWords
	Transcription by CastingWords He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	Thank you, Mr. Trump.
	I tell you what, it was hard to keep up with that man.
	I'm, what, 23 years younger than he is in the White House, I tell you.
	He was like the Duracell bunny.
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	Do you remember what happened when they challenged President Trump that he's too old and he's not up to it?
	Well, he took the test!
	Let's play the cut.
	I said to the doctor, who was Dr. Ronny Jackson, I said, is there some kind of a test, an acuity test?
	And he said, there actually is.
	And he named it, whatever it might be.
	And it was 30 or 35 questions.
	The first questions are very easy.
	The last questions are much more difficult.
	Like a memory question, it's like you'll go person, The president walked us through it in that interview with Mark Siegel.
	He discussed it from the podium.
	And then afterwards, he was given a score.
	What was that score?
	Let's ask the man himself.
	Presidential White House physician, Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson.
	Now, Congressman Jackson from Texas' 13th District.
	Remind our millions of listeners, Congressman, Admiral, how did our old boss do on that test?
	Sebastian, he did great.
	I can barely hear you, though.
	There's another feed in my ear right now.
	But I think you're asking me how the president did on the test.
	Yes.
	He did extremely well.
	I mean, he passed with flying colors.
	And I'm pretty convinced that our current president would have no opportunity whatsoever to get anywhere close to that.
	So we've got a big issue right now.
	But President Trump set the standard.
	He established the precedent.
	And I think that that's something that everyone should do now.
	And Joe Biden should submit to the test as well.
	All right, so I hope that we've cleared up the feed problem and you can hear clearly what I'm saying.
	I'm a PhD in political science, so don't ask me to write a prescription.
	You are a surgeon.
	You're a doctor.
	You've served in the White House for multiple presidents.
	So I'm just going to ask the layman's question.
	This is an elderly individual.
	He's had two brain aneurysms, and if you look at his recent behavior, especially when he snaps at people in public every week, there's this example, whether it's a reporter, whether it's that worker at that Ford factory, he just snaps at them, which if you talk to people who've had family members with dementia or senility, it's one of the first things that goes is this kind of lack of filter reaction that the patients have.
	Why are you concerned?
	Let me ask your professional opinion.
	I know, you know, He's got the nuclear football and he's the president, but from a medical perspective, this isn't just a political attack.
	There is substance to this observation, is there not?
	There absolutely is.
	He's got something going on.
	I tell people all the time, I'm not his physician.
	I haven't examined him.
	But you don't even need to be a doctor to see what's happening right now.
	There's something happening.
	I'm not giving him a diagnosis.
	I'm not saying he has dementia or Alzheimer's or Parkinson's or, you know, multi-infarct dementia.
	I'm saying he's got some serious cognitive decline related to his age.
	You can see it.
	Like you said, he's got a very short temper now.
	He shuffles when he walks.
	He slurs his speech.
	He's lost.
	He's confused.
	This is not something that you can I mean, there's a lot of jobs out there that you can do and you not be completely 100%, you know, have 100% capacity and still do the job okay.
	President of the United States, head of state, commander-in-chief is not one of them.
	We got a serious issue.
	This is a national security issue for our country right now.
	You can see what he's doing to his overseas.
	He's not inspiring confidence in our allies.
	He's not sending the proper message to our adversaries.
	He's emboldened our adversaries and they're all thinking that this is a window of opportunity and you can see domestically he's killing the country with the economy and the gas price and our border and crime in our city.
	So yeah, there's a lot to this.
	There's a lot of concerns and there's a lot of consequences.
	Please give us your experience.
	Years and years in the White House serving multiple presidents as their physician.
	Let's stay on this issue for a second.
	I'm not complaining, but I was in the West Wing at 7 a.m.
	Sometimes we were there till 8, 9 at night.
	It was a long job for just me, a deputy assistant, but for a president of any party, how stressful a job is this from a medical point of view?
	It's incredibly stressful, both physically and mentally.
	You have to be able to multitask like nobody's business.
	I mean, you know this.
	He'll drop down the elevator in the morning or be walking back from the Oval in the evenings and the entire day that he's over in the Oval in the West Wing.
	He's got multiple people coming at him with different issues, domestic issues, foreign affairs issues.
	You have to be able to manage all that stuff.
	You have to be able to take that in and make decisions.
	And it's very, very stressful and it's very, very fatiguing.
	And you're right.
	He had more energy than I had.
	We'd go on overseas trips sometimes and we'd fly for 13 hours on Air Force One, end up in Southeast Asia.
	We'd leave Andrews Air Force Base here in D.C.
	at 9 o'clock in the morning.
	We'd get there, and it'd be 9 o'clock in the morning again, and we'd have a 14-hour day ahead of us.
	And we had to get off the plane and work, the Secret Service detail, the medical folks, the military aid, and the president.
	And we'd do this all day, and it was the most fatiguing thing you can imagine.
	And at the end of the day, the one person that had the most energy was Donald Trump.
	And if somebody wanted to talk to him and there were people in the lobby waiting and wanted to say hi to him, everybody else was thinking about nothing but getting in the bed, he would have the energy to go downstairs and talk to people like he had just woke up.
	So the man's got incredible energy, incredible endurance, and it's the complete opposite of what we have in the White House right now.
	Yeah, it is.
	It is truly remarkable.
	Genes matter.
	We've got a minute left with Rear Admiral Ronnie Jackson, Congressman Jackson, Texas 13.
	What is your prediction?
	What is your expectation?
	Is it a midterm?
	Then we have President Trump's made his decision.
	He's running.
	What are you saying to the people of Texas?
	Hang in there.
	It'll be better.
	What is Admiral Jackson's message?
	My message is the title of my book.
	I got a new book out called Holding the Line, and that's my message.
	We're going to hold the line.
	Right now, we've been doing that.
	We have a minority in the House and the Senate, and we don't have the White House.
	We're doing everything we can to stop the insanity that's going on on the left right now.
	But when we get the House back in November, and we will, and we might get the Senate back as well, and we'll get the White House back in 2024, we are going to take this country back, and we are going to make a difference, and you can count on it.
	The book is Holding the Line, A Lifetime of Defending Democracy and American Values.
	He served this nation in and out of uniform.
	Sir, when you're back in the swamp, could we get you in studio for a longer discussion about the book itself?
	Absolutely.
	I'd be happy to talk about it.
	It comes out next week and there's a lot of great stories in it.
	I can't wait.
	I'm ordering it literally right now.
	Follow him, RonnieJacksonTX, on Twitter and you've got to get the book.
	It is RonnieJackson.com and the book is holding the line.
	God bless you, sir.
	Thank you for your candor.
	Thank you for your service.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Hey, sorry about the feed. sorry about the feed.
	We should have checked that out at the beginning.
	So if you are in DC... And you can take that.
	Mic's back on.
	Okay.
	Titles for that.
	Yes, Biden has a health issue.
	Has it been a long time?
	Has a serious health issue.
	- Uh-huh.
	Mm-hmm.
	One minute.
	- Is it hot in there? - I don't really feel it.
	Well, you never feel it.
	It feels cooler in here than out there, I'll say that.
	Nah, the air's been working in the control room pretty decently.
	Okay, it's getting a little warm in here.
	Coming down for you a little bit.
	Could also be because of all the lights.
	Not sure.
	No, the lights are LED, so they're not hot.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, just a couple of degrees.
	Thanks.
	Nice.
	Oh, uh, John?
	Uh, they, uh, it disappeared.
	That box came up.
	It just disappeared again.
	- Okay. - Thanks.
	- Five, two, five, one. - No.
	No, we're not.
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Did you see what Boot Edge Edge said about petrol prices and why it's good that they're so high?
	Yes, he actually said that.
	Unbelievable.
	Cut three.
	Of course, the more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Hi, the gas price is good for you if you got a Tesla!
	Seriously, these are the people running the country.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Waiting very patiently in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
	Mark, line two.
	Mr. Gorga, how are you?
	Good.
	Hey, I called you about three weeks ago and you sent my wife, the boss, and I a copy of your book and we're both reading it and you really relate very, very well in your book.
	Thank you kindly.
	Is she, is the boss enjoying it too?
	Yes, she is.
	She's actually sitting here today.
	She's not working.
	She's on vacation this week.
	Greetings to the boss.
	She says hi.
	Hey, my question was, George Soros, correct me if I'm wrong, over in Hungary, they kind of expelled his influence and stuff over there?
	They have limited his influence and they kicked out his university that was indoctrinating young kids.
	I think it had to move to Vienna from Budapest.
	So yeah, they took the threat of Soros very seriously.
	Can we?
	I mean, can't we do anything like that?
	It's hard.
	It's hard.
	Orban had a parliament where he was basically, you know, you know, the power.
	He had a super majority in parliament.
	He could change the constitution, which he did.
	So the power relations here, as long as you've got 50-50 in the Senate and as long as I think Soros is an American citizen, it's very, very hard.
	So, you know, we can, we can look at Hungary and say, hey, that's cool.
	But again, we do have checks and balances in this country.
	But we have to think about ways that we can legally diminish this person's absolutely diabolical influence.
	Great question.
	Thank you, Mark, and say hi to the boss.
	Let's go to Art in Salt Lake City.
	Sebastian, that kid Eli?
	Yes.
	I've been a pistol shooter for 50, 60 years.
	I've been on a state team, the Utah State team, a divisional team, the 103rd Division team, and I don't know if I could do what he did.
	What was that?
	Eight, eight, eight, ten shots in 15 seconds, eight on the kill zone.
	That is fantastic.
	I've been practicing all my life.
	I don't know if I can do that.
	We're out of time.
	Glock.
	Got to ask you quickly, Art.
	Favorite handgun?
	Glock.
	Glock 17?
	No, Glock 26.
	Clock 26, and a concealed carry.
	That's what I'm carrying right now.
	Nice, very nice.
	That's what I'm carrying right now.
	Stay on the line, Art.
	Let's give Art a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
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	Get a Let's Go Brandon flag.
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	Judge Thomas, you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you God.
	I do.
	Please be seated.
	When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
	When I was six, I wandered the streets by myself.
	You were hungry and didn't know when you'd eat.
	Someplace in my life, the roads split off.
	I had gone to the seminary.
	I had gone to all-white school.
	I was never gonna be a part of that world.
	I was never gonna be white.
	The problem is, I could never go back completely to the world I came from.
	We're supposed to be revolutionaries.
	We work for anybody who's kind of in your face.
	I saw what I had become, lashing out at every single thing.
	And then I asked God, if you take anger out of my heart, I'll never hate again.
	And that was the beginning of the slow return to where I started.
	I want my candidacy to unify our country.
	I was under constant attack.
	You're not really black because you're not doing what we expect black people to do.
	I will nominate Judge Clarence Thomas to serve as Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
	That's when all heck broke loose.
	Judge Thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex.
	We know exactly what's going on here.
	This is the wrong black guy.
	He has to be destroyed.
	You really didn't matter.
	What mattered was what they wanted.
	So you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?
	I'd rather die than withdraw from the process.
	I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my oath and did my best.
	I wouldn't be able to say I lived up to my father.
	No one stood up to him!
	Nobody!
	Because he was black!
	You need to wake up!
	My parents didn't teach me that I was a victim.
	They can turn back voting rights.
	Didn't nobody donate to us the right to vote.
	You was a house nigger.
	I didn't call you a nigger.
	Oh, okay.
	That's a big difference.
	And Uncle Tom is somebody who has sold out by embracing the white man.
	Uncle Tom.
	Bedlam.
	Bootlicker.
	Black white supremacist.
	Chucking and jiving.
	House negro.
	Coon.
	Uncle Tom.
	Coon.
	Coon.
	I have a Coon award over there.
	Racism.
	of the year war.
	Most black people don't believe that other blacks can be independent, free thinkers.
	I believe the legacy and the ancestry of black Americans is being insulted every single day.
	I will not pretend to be a victim in this country.
	I know that that makes many people on the left uncomfortable.
	Racist.
	Racism.
	A thousand cuts of racism.
	The liberal will try to control a black person through the concept of racism because they know that we are very proud emotional people.
	Right.
	I never felt that because I was black or I was poor or a woman that I couldn't do something.
	I grew up being told of my disadvantages, that this country is unfair to black people.
	The ideology is implanted into you subconsciously to believe these things.
	It's like a cancerous plague in the mind of black Americans.
	We're brainwashed to think, well, is it because I'm black?
	America's not ours, so we got shipped here.
	No, our blood is on this soil.
	We own this, too.
	There should be a pride that we have in the fact that this country was built by many great black men and women.
	Are you trying to say that this country does not specialize in racism and bigotry?
	So long as black people continue to have their psyche filled by that nonsense, we won't have an awakening.
	We're not going to retire, are you? are you?
	No, I'm not going to retire.
	I may step down from my current position at some time.
	And one of the reporters had asked me, and the question originated was, if Donald Trump is the next president, would you still work for him in your capacity?
	And I said a very innocent but true thing.
	I said whether it's Donald Trump or it's Joe Biden's second term, I don't intend to be in my current position in January of 2025.
	What happens between now and then, I have not decided.
	But the one thing I do know is that I have other things that I want to do in a professional way, that I want to have the capability while I still have the energy and the passion.
	Wow.
	Hey Jan!
	How are you doing?
	Hanging in there.
	Hanging in there.
	beyond January 2025.
	When I step down from this position, I have not decided that yet.
	Wow.
	Hey, Jan.
	Hey, how you doing?
	How are you doing?
	Hanging in there.
	Hanging in there.
	How's the family doing?
	Everybody's okay.
	He passed yesterday.
	I found out on my way into the studio.
	But he's free from his body and that's good.
	And my mom's holding up.
	I think, you know, there's some sense of relief because they just weren't sleeping and they were waiting for him and, you know, all that stuff.
	Were they close?
	Did they have a good relationship?
	Yeah, my mom and my grandfather really did.
	Yeah.
	He was the one who kind of made her appreciate literature.
	Oh, wow.
	Made her Catholic.
	Made her stay Catholic.
	Good.
	Are you getting on Skype?
	Yeah, I think we're trying right now.
	Yeah, we're ready to Skype you guys.
	Is it this one?
	Or is it... We're broadcasting to the world now, right?
	Yeah.
	It's the SNA or the SMSA.
	Salem News.
	Oh, we don't want to say it.
	We don't want to say that.
	It's the SNA.
	entire network.
	Sebastian Gorka.
	Well, he gave a kind of, uh, going away speech.
	I think he's actually gonna be at 10 Downing Street until September, but he did it with his usual flair.
	Let's just listen to Boris Johnson saying goodbye to that rather rowdy rabble in the House of Commons.
	Cut seven.
	And I want to use the last few seconds, Mr Speaker, to give some words of advice to my successor, whoever he or she may be.
	Number one, stay close to the Americans, stick up for the Ukrainians, stick up for freedom and democracy everywhere.
	Cut taxes and deregulate wherever you can to make this the greatest place to live and invest, which it is.
	I want to thank you, Mr. Speaker.
	I want to thank all the wonderful staff of the House of Commons.
	I want to thank all my friends and colleagues.
	I want to thank my right-hand friend opposite, Mr. Speaker.
	I want to thank everybody here, and hasta la vista, baby.
	Thank you.
	I do believe that may be the first time since Lord Oliver Cromwell that someone addressed the Speaker of the House as baby.
	He will be missed.
	Let's discuss that and so much more with our West Coast warrior.
	She is the co-host of The Morning Answer, AM 870, AM 870 and AM 590, The Answer.
	Jennifer Horne, did you catch Bojo's farewell to the House of Commons?
	I am so glad I got to see that with you.
	You know, I'm a fan of professional wrestling, Seb, as I might have mentioned to you.
	Yes.
	And I just feel like he needs to be in spandex whenever he talks.
	Yes!
	I need to see him in one of those old-fashioned, like, unitards, I think is what he's wearing.
	The hair is perfect for a heavyweight wrestler, don't you think?
	Absolutely.
	He's got the crazy hair.
	He's always talking really fast.
	He's kind of a wild man.
	But you know what?
	Look, he said all the right things there.
	He said less government regulation, less taxes, stay close to the Americans, be good to Ukraine.
	As much as he handled COVID poorly, he lost the faith of his own party.
	I mean, I can't be angry with him for those words because I agree with him on all of those points.
	I still don't understand, and I don't know, maybe you've got some insight here.
	I don't understand any grown man, let alone the head of our closest ally, having a complete incapacity to comb their hair.
	What is that?
	I don't get that.
	What is with the hair?
	Is that a brand thing?
	I don't get it.
	I mean, I guess it is.
	You know, President Trump was known for his hair, but at least it was, like, it was coiffed.
	It was orderly.
	It was orderly.
	Yes, very orderly.
	And, you know, of course it became part of his brand.
	I think that's the same with Boris as well.
	But somebody needs to get in there.
	Maybe, you know what, I'm going to loan Gavin Newsom to the Brits just for a little while.
	They can go tell, you know, he can go show them how to use hair gel and the comb and just make sure everything is perfectly in place because, boy, Boris Johnson needs it.
	I don't know.
	Maybe a little makeover is in order.
	Plus, I don't – look, I'm blonde and I was a blonde baby.
	And when I was in junior high, the in thing to do during the 80s and 90s was to use sun in.
	Yes!
	I remember sun in!
	Those little spray bottles, yes!
	So I would spray it on my hair and then I'd go cook it outside in the sun or under a hairdryer and I feel like Boris Johnson has also used some sun in in his day.
	Yes, yes, I think that is a distinct possibility.
	All right, we have to discuss what's going on in the California schools, just sheer insanity.
	But before we go to the West Coast, we played this little clip of Mayor Pete, which is a kind of glimpse behind the curtain of who these people are.
	And then afterwards, he was taken to task by a CNBC host.
	So I want your reaction to these.
	First, I'm sure you've played these on your show.
	This is Mayor Pete just telling us why high gas prices are excellent.
	Cut three.
	For example, if the president declares a climate emergency, executive order... Cut three, we're doing cut three again, and then the reaction.
	So first, why gas prices are good from the floor of Congress.
	Play cut.
	Of course, the more pain we are all experiencing from the high price of gas, the more benefit there is for those who can access electric vehicles.
	So the more pain for you and me, the more benefit for the Tesla drivers, he said the quiet bit out loud.
	And I guess somebody, Joe Kernan on CNBC, was a little bit annoyed at that.
	And the whole Green New Deal cult cut five.
	For example, if the president declares a climate emergency, executive order, we are going to stop oil and gas drilling in the outer continental shelf.
	We're going to do all kinds of things that will limit production of hydrocarbons at this time.
	With the idea that by 2030, everyone else is going to be along with us, and that somehow, you think we're going to be able to change the weather, or the climate between now and 2030?
	Well, we've changed the climate between 2010 and now, and not in a good way.
	So yes, we can and must act to make sure that we reverse the worst effects of climate change.
	Look, some of it's upon us right now.
	This is not a question about whether it's going to happen or whether it's not going to happen.
	It's a question of how many lives and how many livelihoods are going to be destroyed by allowing the worst effects of climate change to happen.
	Right now people are going to freeze and die from the heat.
	They're going to freeze and die from the heat for something that may or may not happen by 2030.
	They're dying from the heat because of a climate-related extreme weather event.
	But we're not going to cut emissions until 2030.
	In the meantime, they need energy to cool their homes and to heat their homes.
	So there somebody's trying to just apply common sense.
	We need energy.
	Whether you've got air conditioning in the summer or heating in the winter, we need it and that's not going to change in 10 years or 20 years.
	So it leads me to this question and I was struggling with this for half an hour yesterday with Lord Black on the show.
	These people really believe the garbage they're peddling, Jen.
	Am I wrong?
	Well I think they believe it and I also think they're profiting from it.
	I mean the green energy sector is incredibly lucrative and follow the money when you want to see how and why the left is acting in certain ways.
	They are pushing this fear and right the way that we now we get our we get agenda items done instead of finding consensus instead of creating things that Congress can actually I don't know come on come together and vote on.
	What they do is they create a crisis, and then they take executive power, and then they act unilaterally, and the voters and the American people be damned.
	And their answer to you, and this is what's so important to remember, is that the left constantly, they are not lying to us.
	They're not hiding things.
	They constantly tell us what they're going to do, and for a long time the right just sat by and thought, oh that's impossible.
	It sounds crazy.
	Here's what they want us to do.
	They want us to either be pushed into electric vehicles, They don't want us to have gas power cars.
	They don't care if that's a financial hardship, because guess what it does?
	It drives out the middle class.
	It creates the very rich and the very poor, which is how their socialist-style government is going to be best rolled out.
	They want more poor people.
	They want you not to be able to afford all of the things they're telling you.
	Oh, just get that!
	Because they want to grow government to take care of you.
	And it's really frustrating.
	And I'm glad that the media is starting to push back a little on this, because it does seem so Unbelievable.
	I'm a conservative.
	I believe that we should be doing what we can, using personal responsibility to clean up after ourselves.
	It just makes great sense.
	But if you think that anything that Mayor Pete can get the United States to do is going to compete with what's going on in India and China, give me a break.
	If this administration were serious, About whatever they're talking about, they'd be putting the pressure to China, not to the people in the middle class, telling them that they need an electric vehicle and don't worry about air conditioning in 20 years.
	It's ridiculous.
	And the idea that there's not one person among them that actually says, OK, we did a little bit too much, we went overboard, or this isn't realistic.
	I mean, it's getting to a proportion, Jen, where it's almost like a cult.
	It is absolutely a cult.
	Well, it's become a religion.
	So you have the people at the top who I believe are profiting from this, which is why they're selling it, and then you have the people at the top are using fear to control people, and it becomes a cult.
	I can tell you that the kids that I know in my life have absolutely been terrified in school that we're not going to have a planet, that wildfires are going to come, That they're going to burn everything down, that the summer heat is going to turn everybody into a crisp, and they're scaring the heck out of people to force them into acting.
	So of course it becomes like a religion because people are terrified.
	Yeah, it absolutely is.
	All right, we have to talk about what's going on in California.
	Talk to us about the San Diego school board president and his ultimatum to kids.
	Yeah, this is pretty unbelievable.
	So in California, the mask mandates are being threatened once again.
	And in Southern California schools, every single campus has already started to roll out mask mandates.
	And San Diego is no different.
	So somebody asked, a local reporter, asked the head of the school district, well, what happens if a kid can't learn with a mask on or doesn't want to wear a mask or for some reason can't wear a mask to summer school?
	And her answer was, well, then just don't come to school.
	And in the fall, don't come to school.
	Maybe we'll have Zoom classes for you.
	And I was listening to our colleague Hugh Hewitt on the way into my morning show this morning.
	And you know, Hugh and I have some differences when it comes to politics.
	Probably you do as well.
	But what he was absolutely right on about is he said that the school system in California is now begging not to teach kids.
	And I really believe this is right.
	They are failing.
	There's a new study that just came out from the San Francisco Unified School District that showed only 47 percent of those leaving junior high were at grade level to go into high school.
	Forty seven percent.
	I think.
	Yeah, you're right.
	I do disagree with you on many things, but it seems as if they just don't want to teach.
	We continue with Jennifer Horne.
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	Last week it's been pretty tough here because that chap Eric decided to go to California as well.
	We were down another man so we had two people instead of what is it NPR has 37 for an hour.
	We had two people for three hours and I think Jeff is going to need another Hawaiian vacation.
	Too much climate change.
	You better go while you can.
	Did you hear what Mayor Pete said about how it's getting worse since 2010?
	Yeah, he did say that.
	How many laws have there been, environmental laws, since then?
	It just proves it doesn't work then.
	Yeah, right, right.
	That's the point, and if they're trying to sell anything here, they're gonna have to deal with what China and India do to pollute everything anyway if you believe that it's going to change climate.
	Look, it's like when they go to work on a bicycle and never use a plane, then I'll start listening to them.
	I'm not going to agree.
	Did you see the story about John Kerry?
	How much he's, oh my god, he has wasted, it was something like 300 metric tons of carbon dioxide, just since the Biden administration took office, since he's been climate czar, on his private plane.
	And the biggest thing that they've managed to do, which I always, you know, talk with Mark Morano about, is to convince Americans that carbon is a pollutant.
	Right.
	You are made of carbon.
	You know, carbon, you know, the fact that you exhale it and plants need it to make oxygen, the biggest con in history that CO2 is deemed to be a pollutant.
	It's fuel for life.
	How they got away with that is stunning.
	Because they scare the heck out of everybody and then tell them whatever they want.
	Yep.
	If climate change was real, I still wouldn't care.
	I don't understand how you could care that much about it.
	It's just... Well, and also, I mean, am I just out to lunch here, but weather patterns have always existed.
	Like people freak out.
	What?
	You know, during the summer here, they're like, oh, it's so hot.
	It's never been this hot.
	OK, it's 95 degrees.
	Ever since I was born, it's been 95 degrees in July.
	I told a friend of mine how my flights out of Fresno were delayed like three times, so I had to get a reconnection to Phoenix instead of Dallas.
	And she said, oh, maybe they canceled because of the heat.
	And I said, My friend, if they were canceling flights out of the Central Valley because of heat, we would never have any outbound flights this summer.
	Totally.
	What day were you in Phoenix?
	I was there the whole day on Saturday waiting for my connection.
	Ouch.
	At least it's one of the bigger ones.
	There's a lot to do there, I suppose.
	So when were you there, she's asking?
	Uh, that was...
	When was I?
	I was in Phoenix.
	Oh, the flight back was, uh, Monday.
	So, I remember the flight out of Fresno was supposed to be, like, 8.30, and then it got delayed to, like, 9.30, then 10, then to 11.30, so I'm like, yeah, I'm not making my Dallas flight.
	So, American Airlines, to their credit, helped me reschedule the next flight to Phoenix, and then Phoenix to, uh, Reagan.
	And you were there all day, Jen?
	Yeah well coming back because I didn't really book a return flight because I didn't know what was going to happen and he was just in this kind of coma state and I had said what I needed to say and I got my mom back there and so I just said my mom said just go just leave and so that's why I left on Saturday but The Tuesday flight that I had to take, my mom, I think I told you, just got diagnosed with spinal stenosis and she's been having tremendous amounts of pain.
	The poor thing can barely walk right now.
	Well, what is that?
	What is stenosis?
	It's where your spinal cord closes in on your nerves and so all the nerves going into your legs are just, she's in pain all the time.
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	Jennifer, did you hear Fauci talk about when he's retiring?
	Not soon enough is the answer.
	Okay, not soon enough.
	Here is, because he kind of took umbrage at the idea that he's retiring and he wanted to send a message, I guess, to President Trump.
	So here's his clarification of the reports about his alleged retirement.
	Cut for.
	You're not going to retire, are you?
	No, no, I'm not going to retire.
	I may step down from my current position at some time.
	And one of the reporters had asked me, and the question originated was, if Donald Trump is the next president, would you still work for him in your capacity?
	And I said a very innocent but true thing.
	I said whether it's Donald Trump or it's Joe Biden's second term, I don't intend to be in my current position in January of 2025.
	What happens between now and then, I have not decided.
	But the one thing I do know Is that I have other things that I want to do in a professional way, that I want to have the capability while I still have the energy and the passion to do them.
	So I picked, I don't want to go beyond January 2025.
	When I step down from this position, I have not decided that yet.
	That man, the highest paid government official in the federal bureaucracy earning $416,000 a year, is 81 years old and has been the head of his institution for 37 years, Jen.
	is 81 years old and has been the head of his institution for 37 years, Jen.
	Isn't that the definition of the swamp?
	Oh, it's absolutely the definition of the swamp.
	I mean, he's the gravy train.
	But you know what I think it is?
	And I actually smile watching Dr. Fauci say those words.
	It's the biggest, most glowing endorsement of President Trump 2.0.
	Because he is saying this now because he knows Trump's coming along.
	And I'm sorry, but I think the first move that President Trump might make, other than a few key investigations into where's Hunter and a few others, would be to get rid of Dr. Fauci.
	Dr. Fauci enriched himself and the rest of the country be damned.
	And Trump would get rid of him pretty much on day one, I would guarantee you.
	You know him better than I do, but I think that's a safe bet.
	So I think Dr. Fauci says, you know what?
	The gravy train is gonna end here.
	You can't convince me that he wouldn't keep riding it out until the very last moment that he could.
	He's making a half a million dollars a year.
	He loves the notoriety.
	He loves the power.
	He loves being GQ's sexiest man of the year.
	I don't know.
	I mean, is that real?
	No, it is not real.
	Your entire staff rates much higher than Dr. Fauci.
	How about that?
	You can't be man of the year if you're the size of a pixie.
	She's Jennifer Horn, follow her at Jennifer Horn, AM 870 and AM 590.
	The answer, okay, let's stay in the health sector.
	When I first saw this story, I said, no, this is, this is the onion.
	This is the Babylon Bee, but there's something called the Norwalk La Mirada Unified School District in California.
	And they have a diabolical plan that has to do with the abortion industry.
	Will you give me a fact check here, Jen?
	I wish this were fake news, but it is not.
	In fact, your lovely wife Katie was on the Inland Empire Answer with me yesterday and we talked about this story.
	This has been making big news and has actually sparked a lot of controversy in Southern California.
	Norwalk and La Mirada, just to kind of put it in perspective on your way to Orange County, just south.
	As you go out of Los Angeles proper.
	And the school district is now saying that at one of their schools, John Glenn High School, they want to put a Planned Parenthood clinic on the campus.
	Now, their argument, and this is true also, that in the state of California you can be a minor and order whatever birth control or anything for reproductive health that you want if you're over the age of 12 without parental consent.
	Yes, that's true.
	When on earth did that happen?
	That's just 12?
	12 years old.
	You don't need consent to get birth control.
	You don't need your parents.
	And you know, there's a whole list of reasons why that's dangerous.
	This messes with your hormones.
	Some people can be allergic to it.
	It's good to have your parents know these things, but the state of California takes away any responsibility or control from their parents.
	So Planned Parenthood goes on and says, well, you know, kids can come to us anyway.
	It doesn't really matter if we're on a high school campus or not.
	So the school board was going to vote on this to add this to John Glenn High School's campus.
	At the school board meeting on Monday, over 100 parents showed up.
	Now, I don't know why it wasn't 1,000 or 10,000, but those 100 parents were at least loud enough to get them to put off the vote, to table it for a little while.
	But they didn't stop it.
	They didn't say they wouldn't do it.
	They didn't vote no on this idea.
	You know they're banking until people forget, because we all do.
	You know, we talk about something for a couple of days, we move on.
	I hope these parents stay engaged.
	I hope if you're listening and you're in Southern California or even across the country, write a letter to the Norwalk La Mirada School District.
	Let them know how terrible an idea this is.
	And by the way, they came out and said that abortion services and puberty blockers or hormone therapies, if you want to change your gender, reassignment surgeries and such, would not be done right away as their initial offering of services at this particular Planned Parenthood location, but they wouldn't rule it out for one month, two months, or six months down the road.
	It's just unbelievable that this is where we are.
	It seems like this should be enough, even too much for California.
	But you know, Jen, it's like, you know, they say what happens in California, that way goes America.
	You know that this one school in this one school district and this Planned Parenthood idea, that's just the test case.
	If they can get away with it there, then this will be a deluge everywhere.
	That's why I'm saying everybody who hears this needs to make a call or send a letter because it does matter.
	You know, I get into this argument all the time.
	People tell me to just pack up and leave California, that it's a lost cause.
	But I've said this to you a million times, said the reason that I stay and fight is because California is the Petri dish for the rest of the country.
	Everybody tests.
	The left tests things all the time in California where they think they can get away with things.
	And then they try to roll it out across the country.
	So we have to at least initiate some fight back here in our state.
	And that's why I stay here and fight.
	And that's why I'm so grateful that these parents, even if there were only a hundred of them, actually showed up and shut this down at least temporarily.
	It's a terrible, terrible idea.
	So, what is your message?
	In my opinion, if this were happening here in the swamp or in Virginia, parents from other schools should go to the next meeting.
	It shouldn't just be the affected school.
	There should be a general groundswell.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And this is where I think you need to go and bring in your faith community, your church leaders from around this area.
	You need to have parents standing in solidarity with the parents at this school.
	And that's why I don't even think it matters if they're local or national.
	This story needs to have more attention because I think that this school district needs to feel the heat so that the rest of the schools in California take a lesson from it and go, you know what, maybe this is not the path we want to go down.
	This is not like adding a Subway sandwich shop to a school campus.
	This is Planned Parenthood.
	Right.
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	Why?
	Why those documents President Trump promised to declassify never saw the light of day.
	In the final hours of the Trump presidency, the U.S. Justice Department raised privacy concerns to thwart the release of hundreds of pages of documents that Donald Trump had declassified to expose FBI abuses during the Russian collusion probe.
	And the agency then defied a subsequent order to release the materials after the redactions were made, according to interviews and documents.
	John Sullivan has sourced all of this from the National Archives.
	The declassified documents included transcripts of intercepts made by the FBI of Trump aides, A declassified copy of the final FISA warrant approved by an intelligence court and the tasking orders and debriefings of the two main confidential sources Christopher Steele and Stefan Halper, the bureau used to investigate whether Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election.
	The documents that President Trump declassified never saw the light of day, even though they had been lawfully declassified by the President And the DOJ had been instructed by Mark Meadows, his Chief of Staff, to release the documents.
	The Department of Justice slow-rolled it.
	And that's why we never, ever saw them.
	I'm posting the article right now on my Twitter feed.
	Just this last sentence you need to hear.
	The Justice Department did not respond to a request for comment.
	The FBI declined to comment.
	That's how big and deep and corrupt the swamp is.
	Let's go to Pepe El Paso, Line 3.
	Buenas tardes, Dr. Corka.
	¿Cómo está?
	I'm doing very well, my friend.
	It's been a long time.
	Welcome back.
	It's been a while, Mr. Future, Mr. National Security Advisor.
	I'm still going with that.
	That would be fun.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment, my dear friend?
	Actually, my comment is, uh, I disagree with Jennifer in that, you know, talking about this, uh, climate change, uh, balderdash, uh, I firmly believe that they do not believe, uh, what there should be.
	It may be Buttigieg, because he's a dummy, but, you know, the majority of them do believe, uh, do not believe in climate change.
	It's just that they profit from it.
	That's the only thing I agree with Ron.
	Well, it's hard to look into the soul of a man or a woman, but they are making a lot of money off it.
	Some, some, especially the dumb ones like AOC, I think they do believe it, but I think you're right that in many cases it's just a scam.
	But I do like the word balderdash.
	We have to use the word balderdash more frequently.
	Stay on the line, my dear friend.
	Let's get Pepe.
	What is the latest thing we have?
	One of our ultra MAGA t-shirts.
	He deserves one as a longtime friend of the show.
	Also a great friend of the show in New Jersey, waiting super patiently.
	Leonardo, welcome back.
	Thanks, John Solomon, for that current revelation.
	I wanted to express my condolences and prayers to the Trump family and also to Jennifer Horne's family in this time of their grieving.
	I want to congratulate you and your family on your son's scholastic achievement.
	It's tremendous.
	I guess you'll be celebrating with cheeseburgers and cigars.
	The thing I wanted to say, the simple truth is that God created us in an imperfect world where life is just difficult.
	Even the first noble truth of Tibetan Buddhism is that life is difficult.
	So it's very easy for the communists to use the con artistry of victimization to manipulate these people that don't know any better with misplaced compassion.
	Very wise words.
	Very wise words.
	Beautifully put.
	Thank you, my friend.
	Let's go to Kathleen, Arizona.
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	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	How are you today?
	Good.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Well, my comment is, as a mental health professional, I'm a mandated reporter for both abused children and vulnerable adults.
	And many days, I feel almost guilty that I haven't called APS in Washington, D.C.
	to make a report on the President.
	His cognitive decline is so obvious.
	It is, but at the same time, Kathleen, I can't feel sorry for this man.
	Nobody forced him to become president.
	He knows that he is mentally challenged.
	He's had two brain aneurysms, so I understand your concern.
	But at the end of the day, he wasn't Shanghai'd.
	He wasn't, you know, forced and conscripted.
	This man deserves none of our pity because he knew he was unfit to serve and he ran anyway.
	Why?
	Because he is corrupt and we must never ever, unless he asks for our forgiveness, forgive him for what he did to Justice Clarence Thomas simply because he was a black conservative judge.
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	Got a title in mind for the Jen segments?
	Something about that Planned Parenthood on school thing is probably the most... Yeah, Planned Parenthood... No, abortion clinics on school... Grounds.
	School grounds, question mark.
	School grounds, question mark.
	Yep.
	She's coming in now.
	Two and a half.
	Yes.
	He says yes.
	Yes.
	Did Randy pop by?
	Hey!
	There's one chair.
	There's one chair.
	Work it out.
	Hey, Elise.
	Hey, greetings.
	Take a seat.
	Take a seat.
	What brings you to town?
	I'm speaking.
	I was speaking yesterday at the Capitol Hill Club.
	Uh-huh.
	Who hosted it?
	Republican Congressional Wives.
	Lunch.
	How'd it go?
	Conference.
	Fantastic.
	And who's this?
	This is Gidget.
	Gidget.
	All right.
	Gidget.
	And what did you talk about?
	Education, you know.
	It's always education.
	Underground education.
	Can you show me her on camera?
	This is a whole new setup.
	Should I take the hat off?
	No, it's good.
	It's all right.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Yeah, just get a little bit of... Good.
	Yeah, this is our new studio.
	It's your hat, you know.
	I noticed.
	Gidget is a cutie.
	I'm branded.
	So this is Gidget.
	Yeah, the studio is lovely.
	So how is it to travel with them?
	She's great.
	She's quiet.
	She's been in her bag all day because we went to a conference today.
	I'm speaking again tomorrow.
	It's called Future Conference, put on by Well-Versed.
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm going to get rid of you in a minute if you stop that, if you don't stop it.
	She's fun.
	She's fun.
	No one's going to hear what I say.
	Can you come in with cut nine?
	Come in with cut nine, no liner.
	All right.
	So we're talking about...
	Oh, no.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Cut in. Cut in. Cut in.
	Cut in.
	Well, just a few weeks ago, this is how President Biden described America in one word.
	Thank you.
	Could you please tell me what that word means?
	It's this one right here.
	Could you even say the word?
	Congressman, I'm not in the habit of trying to read transcriptions of people who don't make any sense.
	That was Congressman Troy Nels asking Pete Buttigieg why they haven't invoked the 25th Amendment because clearly the man in the White House is senile and is making words up that not even Mayor Pete can pronounce.
	Who's gonna pull the pin?
	Is it gonna be Nancy?
	They need two-thirds of the cabinet and the Speaker of the House and the Vice President He's not going to last another two years, is he?
	I don't think so.
	Let's continue on the topic of education with a warrior for the truth and for parents across the country.
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	All right.
	So what brings you to the Swamp?
	Who did you address yesterday?
	And what was your topic, Sam?
	So I was talking to the Republican Congressional Wives Club, or Spouses Club, I should say.
	We're talking about education.
	We're talking about the fact that we are finally waking up to the news that they are not accomplishing education.
	But a lot of people think that the schools are broken, Seb, and that we can fix them.
	What they're not realizing is the schools aren't broken.
	The schools are doing exactly what schools are designed to do.
	They don't want to be fixed.
	And they certainly don't want to be fixed.
	And if you try to fix them, you're just going to set them back to whatever gave us what we have today.
	So what's the answer?
	Is it just everybody has to homeschool?
	What's the answer, Sarah?
	Well, you know, I'm a big proponent of homeschooling, and I don't call it homeschool anymore.
	It's home learning.
	But the fact is that we're born curious, and the school just, you know, stamps that out of us so that we're no longer curious.
	We don't want to learn anything by the time we finish our quote-unquote education.
	And so what I'm really for is this new paradigm.
	It's home learning.
	So that's interesting.
	I like it.
	This is the first time I've heard it.
	But what is the import?
	Why do you have to rebrand from homeschooling to home learning?
	Walk us through it, because you've written the book Words for Warriors, so words clearly matter to you.
	Walk us through why the rebranding?
	So the first thing that you learn in school is you have to raise your hand to ask a question.
	That's a deterrent.
	That's actually teaching you, viscerally, because you embody it, don't ask.
	That actually eventually becomes trust the expert.
	That's not education.
	That's not a thinking person.
	That's a non-thinking person.
	That's what the schools are turning out.
	That's what school produces.
	And I'm not for that.
	I'm for thinking people.
	I want people to learn how to think, not just what to think, right?
	And so I'm rebranding it because it's not school.
	It's not home.
	It's home learning.
	And you can do this.
	It's actually a lot easier than you think.
	So this is the question.
	Even for my wife and I, it's a daunting concept yes that you're going to help your kids learn because you know you don't want to check out my physics grades okay I was an artsy fartsy person so believe it or not so so walk us through why this shouldn't be as daunting as something As daunting as something?
	Oh, some think that it is, yeah.
	The reason that they think it's daunting is because they've been taught in school to think that it's daunting, because that's job security for the school teachers.
	So if I teach you this is very hard, don't try this at home, which is what the school does, then we're left going, oh my gosh, what are we going to do?
	We can't do that.
	And I'm here to tell you, you can.
	I have a training next week.
	I train people all the time in this.
	And it sets you free.
	It sets you free from the whole system.
	You don't need to be shackled by the education system.
	But the fact is, we are all school injured at this point.
	We've all been injured by our schooling.
	You just said, oh, I'm not a physics person.
	I'm artsy-fartsy, right?
	But, you know, I grew up thinking that I wasn't a writer.
	I've written several books, including this one.
	But I grew up thinking that I was science and math, and that's all I was.
	I was science and math, and the school taught me that, because they bifurcate.
	But the fact is, it's all the same.
	There is no such thing as a math brain.
	It's simply a facility for certain things.
	And actually, we are taught in school what we can't do.
	That's one of the big lessons, is what you can't do.
	That everything comes through the teacher to you.
	That you need a teacher to teach you.
	That's a false paradigm that the school sets up.
	You don't need a teacher to teach you.
	Look at everything that you... Who taught you how to do radio?
	And yet you're phenomenal on the radio.
	You taught yourself!
	You listen to people, you talk to people, you taught yourself.
	And you're not going to learn anything that you don't choose to teach yourself, right?
	But in school, we force this false paradigm on the kids.
	You have to learn this and you have to learn... And by the way, you have to learn it at 11 o'clock a.m.
	You're not allowed to go learn it at 3 o'clock.
	At 3 o'clock you have gym or you have something else.
	So I just want to set people free.
	They can go to samsorbo.com and I have all my resources there.
	I've written several books on this and I do teachings all the time and doing conferences.
	I just finished my Playbook for Home Learning Conference where I'm actually giving people the playbook that they need to do it.
	It's a lot of fun.
	SamSorbo.com and TheSamSorbo on Twitter.
	What are you witnessing as you travel the country?
	Katie, my wife, calls it the parents' revolt.
	Should we be excited?
	Is it too little too late?
	What's your diagnosis?
	No, no, no.
	It's very exciting.
	Parents are finally waking up.
	And what's happened is they're being squeezed because, I don't know if you saw, Los Angeles is now considering putting a Planned Parenthood inside a high school.
	You just discussed it.
	Come on!
	Are you kidding me?
	When are you going to... Look, we're all abused, right?
	We're school injured.
	We've been abused by the schools.
	And so now we're like in the position of the battered wife going, oh, but he really loves me.
	No, he doesn't.
	The schools hate you.
	They hate your children.
	Get your children off the front lines.
	If you want to fight the school boards, do that.
	But take your kids off the front lines.
	And this is... The paradigm is...
	It's amazing how simple it is.
	They had to make it look this complicated to deter us from doing it.
	This nation was founded by home-educated people.
	Abe Lincoln was home-schooled, okay?
	He schooled himself.
	He decided what interested him, he went after it.
	That's what you want for your children because that's how they're going to find true happiness.
	I have just one thing to say.
	God bless Communist China.
	If it weren't for COVID, we wouldn't have woken up.
	There wouldn't be a parents' revolt.
	SamSobo.com.
	The Sam Sobo on Twitter.
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	Can you play me Cut Eight?
	Cut Eight.
	Go ahead.
	He shakes hands with ghosts and imaginary people.
	He falls off bicycles.
	Even at the White House Easter celebration, the Easter Bunny had to guide him back into his safe place.
	Cue cards that say, sit here, or end of speech, which he actually states, that is, if he stays awake.
	So my question for you is, sir, have you spoken with any other cabinet members about implementing the 25th Amendment on President Biden?
	First of all, I'm glad to have a president who can ride a bicycle.
	And I will look beyond the insulting nature of that question and make clear to you that the president of the United States, of course, can't.
	He calls that riding a bicycle.
	You need a line.
	He calls that riding a bicycle.
	I wonder what he calls fiscal responsibility.
	Exactly.
	So this is the shot here.
	You have the card.
	About 30 seconds.
	So this is the shot here.
	I was wondering what the shot was.
	Stretching.
	The End
	He shakes hands with ghosts and imaginary people.
	He falls off bicycles.
	Even at the White House Easter celebration, the Easter Bunny had to guide him back into his safe place.
	Cue cards that say, sit here, or end of speech, which he actually states, that is, if he stays awake.
	So my question for you is, sir, have you spoken with any other cabinet members about implementing the 25th Amendment on President Biden?
	First of all, I'm glad to have a president who can ride a bicycle.
	And I will look beyond the insulting nature of that question and make clear to you that the President of the United States... Of course not.
	Any other cabinet members about implementing the 25th Amendment on President Biden?
	Of course not.
	But he can't ride a bicycle.
	What are you talking about, Boot-Edge Edge?
	That was Troy Nails again.
	Bring me that dog.
	Bring me that dog right now.
	This is too much fun.
	We need more canine content here on America First.
	This is Gidget, and we're gonna make her very, very famous.
	Not exactly my size of a dog, but she's cute.
	She's super cute.
	She's pretty well behaved so far.
	She is Sam Sorbo's A vicious attack dog.
	Sit down for a second.
	We've got two minutes left.
	You've been fighting the good fight for, well, I've known you for years.
	I used to be on your radio show with your husband Kevin Sorbo, your son, who's amazing, a young conservative.
	You've got 90 seconds to speak to 3 million people.
	Yes, we can say your book is Words for Warriors.
	Your website is Sam Sorbo.
	But what is your message to those on both of these issues who say, I can't homeschool or when it comes to politics, I just want to keep my head down and everything will be all right.
	What is your answer to them, Sam?
	My answer to them is that they've been abused by a school system that has taught them that keeping your head down is the way to be American.
	That the teacher has all the answers.
	To trust the experts.
	Don't ask, don't try, don't think are the predominant messages in our schools today and have been for decades.
	That they should be a little bit angry about having had their parents stolen from them and having their children stolen from them, which is what the schools do.
	And the schools teach them that they are indispensable, that the school is indispensable, from kindergarten all the way through.
	So it's no wonder that we think that we're helpless without our schools.
	But I'm done with that.
	I'm fed up with that.
	And I want to set people free.
	I want to see an emancipation from our education, from our quote-unquote education system, from the school system.
	We're done with that.
	We're Americans.
	We should be stronger than that.
	I just love the three things you said right at the beginning.
	The current school system teaches you not to ask, not to try, not to think.
	That's why we need to be emancipated from it and create our own.
	Superb message.
	Of course, it's from Sam Sorbo.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Next up, we're going to have Horace Cooper.
	What has happened to race relations in this nation and who are the real bigots?
	And then I'll be on with...
	Spicy!
	Yes, Sean Spicy later tonight on Newsmax.
	This is the Salem News Channel.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
	The End
	Thank you.
	So this is 60, right?
	Okay.
	Friends, the world has a further reli- ahem ahem ahem ahem ahem ahem ahem ahem ahem ahem
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	This is a circus.
	It's a national disgrace.
	It is a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves.
	And it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S.
	Senate rather than hung from a tree.
	What an amazing American.
	Of course, that was Judge Clarence Thomas, who was nominated to the highest court in the land.
	And because he was a black man who dared to be a conservative, he was put through a high-tech lynching at the hands of none other Yes, than the current incumbent of the White House.
	As far as I'm concerned, that should have disqualified Senator Joe Biden from ever holding public office again.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	We're discussing the state of race relations in America here on America First, one-on-one with a very special guest.
	We are always delighted to have him in studio from Project 21, Horace Cooper.
	Welcome back in our new studio.
	I love it.
	This is amazing.
	You like this?
	He said the word wow when he came in here.
	Wow!
	That's how much he enjoyed it.
	Well, thank you for your honesty.
	Thank you for always being such a supporter of the show.
	I didn't know.
	We had like a Vulcan mind meld at a distance because I knew you were coming on the show.
	I wanted to have a couple of clips to play to you regarding race relations in America and I chose that one of the current president, President Biden, which kind of ties in nicely to your imminent book because I think he used the phrase Put your back in chains, which is the title of your book, How Biden's Policies Harm Black Americans.
	Your last book was a runaway bestseller, thanks to it being cancelled for a few months.
	That is How Trump is Making Black America Great Again.
	Tell us why that Bestseller wasn't enough, and why you're having to write this one about the current president.
	Give us a couple of examples, because I thought the Democrat Party was the party of the minorities, the parties of the little man, and caring for minorities in America.
	So, here's what I'm going to say with all due candor.
	I haven't ever believed that the left really cared about minorities, but a lot of black Americans are still under this illusion.
	The good news is, the evidence is becoming so overwhelming of the lack of concern, the lack of care, the lack of prioritization that you're seeing look First with Hispanics, but also with black Americans fleeing from the party of the left.
	Our president made this statement when he was vice president, saying that the Republican Party and the conservative movement and the ideas of liberty were just a fancy masquerade for an attempt to re-enslave black America.
	Now, didn't the New York Times call him out for this?
	Did MSNBC do a segment saying, why is the president creating this kind of racial animus and division in America?
	No, they didn't.
	In fact, much of mainstream America has cheered on this kind of dialogue, creating the dissension.
	Why?
	Because they want the policies.
	Not policies that are going to help black Americans get more pickup trucks, as I explain in my book, How Donald Trump is Making Black America Great Again.
	We saw, during the four years of the Trump administration, record numbers of black Americans getting their own home, going to see grandma for Thanksgiving.
	Something that woke America takes for granted, remember?
	They're the ones that are saying the kinds of things you have to do when you go see grandma because she's so intolerant because they're assuming everybody goes for Thanksgiving.
	Black America set record lows during the Obama administration for the number who got to just go see grandma for Thanksgiving.
	We saw record numbers of black Americans.
	Three years in a row, the record broke itself for how many blacks got to go on their first August vacation.
	I mean, it's remarkable the transition between what black America experienced then and what black America is experiencing now.
	But the mainstream media and the progressives in the education establishment and other elite areas, they're interested in the Green New Deal.
	They're interested in transgenderism.
	They're interested in all of these issues and the concerns of black Americans go to the back of the political bus.
	So we'll talk about your new book, about Biden, but let's go back to your previous one, how Trump is making black America great again.
	Can you explain to me, because I need a little bit of assistance here, how after four incessant years of the then incumbent being called an Islamophobe, a misogynist, a nationalist, a white supremacist, and then eventually a Nazi,
	That he received more support in the 2020 election from black and Hispanic Americans than any incumbent Republican since the 1960s.
	So what was it about him that made so many members of the minority communities kind of have that wake-up moment?
	It's the delivery.
	It's the consequence.
	It's the results.
	When you are looking around, I mention this in my book, that there are black Americans who are saying, hey, my son or my nephew has finally left my basement and is moving out to their own apartment.
	Record numbers of black Americans started their own jobs, started their own careers, started their own businesses.
	This is A sea change.
	And one of the reasons Joe Biden is so unpopular today with the minority community is it's not like as bad as it was under Obama.
	Under Obama, we had a stagnant economy.
	We have a stagnant economy now.
	But under George W. Bush, the economy had started to slow down.
	So, the eight years of the Obama administration was more like the frog in the pot cooking and suddenly finds out that it's been boiled to death without realizing it.
	Guess what?
	A hot economy!
	Opportunity records!
	By the way, when I tell you how great things were going for black America, I don't want people to be under the misimpression that it means that that's the only priority.
	Donald Trump's administration helped everyone.
	If you were the least, you got helped the most.
	In the Obama years, only the most made progress, and everybody else was squeezed.
	So it's the contrast between how hot things were with the Trump economy and how terrible they are now that is making people jump out of that bullet.
	It's the rapid deceleration that is most obvious.
	So help me with this.
	If people are waking up to the realities of a Democrat party, Why has it taken 60 years?
	This is the thing I never managed to get a decent explanation for.
	If what you said, the very first sentence, is that they say they care for the minorities but they don't, why has it taken 60 years for members of that minority to say, you know what, they preach about caring but they don't really?
	Well, a lot hasn't been really paid to the fact that there was a push among black Americans toward the Republican Party during the Reagan years.
	And one of the phenomenon that happened was the explosive growth that occurred.
	The issue has been that both parties have not really been in favor of growing the economy.
	Some mismanage it more than others, but all of America has It's really sort of been in a stagnant situation, and it is that explosive growth that attracts the attention of people.
	So if you had to pick, this party says every day how much they love me, and I can't get a job.
	That party says nothing about how much they love me, and I can't get a job.
	Guess what?
	You're gonna go, likely, with the party that says, I love you.
	And what the left has been doing is trying to get away with the rhetoric.
	and not actually delivering food on the table.
	He's senior fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research and Project 21.
	The first book was How Trump is Making Black America Great Again, a bestseller.
	The new one is Put Y'all Back in Chains, How Biden's Policies Harm Black Americans.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	When this man was President of the United States, he had something to say about a man who was caught breaking into his own home in Cambridge, a certain Harvard professor.
	Play cut.
	My understanding is that Professor Gates then shows his ID to show that this is his house.
	And at that point he gets arrested for disorderly conduct.
	Charges which are later dropped.
	Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that.
	But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry.
	Number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly.
	The President: It's always great when a president calls one of our law enforcement agencies stupid.
	That led eventually to the, I think it was called the Beer Summit.
	I'd like to ask our guests, can you give us a diagnosis from that point in time, the eight years of Obama, then the four years of my old boss, President Trump, and today, what has the evolution of race relations been in America?
	What is the trend line?
	What direction are they moving in?
	When Barack Obama said what he said, it was a code word.
	The left always talks about the right dog whistle.
	This was clearly a dog whistle.
	When he said acted stupidly, what he wanted to say and implied was racist.
	But you couldn't say that in 2008.
	Now I'm going to turn just really quick to a data point.
	Since 2008, every four years, fewer blacks have supported the left-wing ticket nationally.
	In fact, since 2014, in every off-year election, fewer blacks have supported the left-wing ticket.
	What do those black Americans know?
	Our president, Mr. Obama, was the first in a hundred years to be successfully re-elected while receiving fewer black votes than he did the first time.
	That didn't happen to Ronald Reagan.
	He received more.
	That didn't happen to George W. Bush.
	He received more.
	That didn't happen to any other president.
	President, if you successfully were re-elected, you got more black folks than you did the first time.
	So why?
	Explain that.
	And it's precisely because these policies don't actually work.
	There was a woman who stood up and asked Barack Obama, and if we had had Twitter and social media as broadly available as we have now, she'd have been cancelled.
	She asked him, are we back to the pork and beans And Wiener's period of time for black America.
	And that's because she could tell, she could feel what was going on.
	His policies were not growing the economy.
	They were stealing from some and handing to the other, the well-connected, but they weren't actually improving the lot of black America.
	Joe Biden's policies are on steroids doing exactly the same thing.
	Yes, there are white Americans that are complaining, but there are black Americans that are also complaining, and even louder.
	Every survey, maybe not 100%, but Gallup, Pew, the mainstream big pollsters, when asked, do you want more police in your community or less police in your community?
	They showed black Americans said, so yes, we want more at a higher percentage than any other group.
	Now, if you haven't heard that, That's because you've been paying attention to the mainstream media and not listening to programs like this, where the truth can be told to you.
	So what is the future in that case?
	We saw the demonstration at the weekend, that young man who fired into a woman's home with the two children there.
	Six-hour standoff with the police.
	Finally, he's killed.
	BLM comes outside that woman's house.
	Protests raise $15,000.
	The woman who was almost killed with her children comes out and screams at them, saying, This wasn't George Floyd!
	This man wasn't unarmed!
	What is the future of BLM?
	If they're so blind that they're raising money for armed individuals who almost killed two small children, Is their future a waning future, or will they remain this separating wound in race relations?
	Okay, BLM was never an entity or an outworking of black America.
	If you wanted to get as many mansions and villas as possible, that would have been a good group to be connected with.
	But in terms of actually trying to improve the lot of black America, BLM has never been a part to that.
	And black America has increasingly recognized this.
	I've got another data point.
	If you read my books, what you see is, I don't just make the assertion, I show you the examples or the data.
	There are on social media, that's Twitter, that's TikTok, I guess, the communist control doc.
	That's Facebook.
	There are 600,000 blacks who reject left-wing views.
	and they post about this every single day.
	That 600,000 has always existed.
	That's just the 600,000 that's willing to post.
	The difference is 15 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, it wasn't easy for that group to communicate.
	Now, Americans are seeing everywhere that there are dissenters, that there are people that hold different views, and that the woman who complained is more representative of where blacks are than they had been before.
	The good news, and I don't say a lot of good news about social media, the good news is this, that when people who think like you and I, But who look more like me speak out.
	It puts a lie to the idea that universally black Americans support the radical left agenda.
	He's Horace Cooper.
	You can follow him and his colleagues at Project 21.
	The new book is Put Your Back In Chains, How Biden Policies Are Harming Black Americans.
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	So you just had to go there, Horace Cooper.
	You went all identity politics on me.
	You said people who look like me, not like you.
	You went there to the skin color thing.
	So I'm gonna go there.
	How do conservatives, whether it's the institutional GOP, the RNC or conservative candidates, how do they talk to black America?
	Because what we've witnessed in the last, I would say, at least 40, 50 years is a subconscious or explicit decision by conservative establishment figures to say, well, you know, Black America votes Democrat, we shouldn't even bother.
	Just to write off this community.
	Can a person who looks like me go into the barbershop and talk to black Americans?
	If yes, what is it we talk about?
	Because it's not going to be CRT, is it the tax regime?
	Can we have that conversation?
	Can conservatives have that conversation?
	If so, what's the frequency?
	Well, absolutely we have to have that conversation.
	That's essential.
	The way that our founders created this country was that we persuade people.
	When you actually take the time to figure out where people are, it makes it easier for you to communicate with them.
	Black Americans are more people of faith than any other ethnic group in America.
	Unfortunately, mainstream conservative movement, the Republican Party, people who are policyholders on the right, have been cowed into saying, oh, let's not talk about matters of faith.
	Let's not talk about an issue that would give us a huge advantage with any particular constituency.
	It would be the equivalent of saying, don't talk about guns if you're trying to appeal to people on the Second Amendment.
	That is a huge issue.
	I'll give you another one.
	The crime problem is especially hard on black Americans.
	We have let the left sell us on this idea that harsh punishments are in some way asymptomatic of some hostility to people who happen to be minorities.
	I want to say to you and your audience, we need to start talking about the death penalty again.
	We need to remember that if a one-year sentence doesn't deter people, a five-year sentence should be tried.
	If that doesn't, then a ten-year sentence.
	If that doesn't, then we need to start talking about the death penalty.
	So let me jump in here.
	I mean, I fully concur.
	There are certain crimes that should automatically trigger the death penalty, especially against the children.
	There is this conventional wisdom that it was the three strikes and you're out, the mandatories for drug crimes that lost the conservatives the black vote or gained the black vote even more for Democrats.
	Is that a fallacious conventional wisdom?
	Absolutely.
	It's one of the biggest lies that are out there about our discourse.
	And so when we don't talk about the kinds of issues that would attract people, I would tell you God's guns and the gig economy, the three G's, are really big issues in black America.
	Even blacks who think that America isn't welcoming them to the halls of the CEO of some of our Fortune 500 companies would like to be able to start their own business.
	And if you've ever been arrested or had any other issues, running your own business is actually a viable option.
	Guess what?
	The federal government and many of the blue states are zeroing in on these kind of proprietorships because they're not active places for union membership.
	They target them, they regulate them, they tax them.
	We should be talking more about them.
	There's absolutely nothing wrong with remembering that.
	Why can't we pray in our classrooms?
	The Supreme Court, an activist Supreme Court, said you can't have prayer.
	Well, why aren't we standing up, people of faith, and saying we believe that should be reversed?
	Louisiana had a policy that said Rape, and this is unfortunate, but rape two or more children, even if they don't die, you get the death penalty.
	The Kennedy opinion, moderate to liberal conservative Kennedy, joined with the other liberals on the court and struck that down.
	We should be talking about restoring that.
	We absolutely, it's not a 4 out of 10 issue.
	It's not a 6 out of 10 issue.
	I want to hear from the guy who stands up, or gal, who stands up and says, oh, that's overly harsh.
	You've raped two children and there's, and we're going to execute you?
	Yes!
	Absolutely!
	And if you'd like to reach through to Black America, who are the victims of this kind of behavior, that's the kind of thing that you do to do it.
	Alright, I have one more question on this issue before we move to another one.
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	So we had that amazing news, Horace, just yesterday, just on Tuesday, that, thank the Lord, Jose Albert, the charges against the...
	What did Jill call it?
	The bodegas?
	The bodega owner, the 61-year-old who was knifed by a female, after which her boyfriend mercilessly attacked him.
	He defended himself.
	The attacker was killed and he was, he, the person defending his bodega, was charged with second-degree murder.
	The charges have been dropped.
	I have this sense, probably wrongly, that it's white conservatives that have issues with Soros-funded pro-criminal prosecutors.
	But you told me that this should be of much a concern for those communities where this kind of crime is happening.
	So can this be something that brings us together?
	Absolutely.
	Why did the mayor, a black progressive of New York City, side with him?
	Because this is an 8 to 9 out of 10 position.
	If in New York, the idea that when a mad dog attacks you at your place of work, you're allowed to use deadly defense if necessary to protect yourself.
	If that is popular, the popular position in New York, can you imagine what that's like in other parts of America?
	And yet, we've been cowed.
	We've been—oh, well, that wouldn't be appropriate.
	We can't talk about this.
	Let's try—here's what I will say to you.
	Let's make a deal with the American people.
	We're going to ratchet up dramatically the punishment for the people who victimize you in your communities.
	And then, after five years, we'll ask you if you want to lower some of those punishments.
	And I promise you that what you're going to see in the New York Times is outrage.
	CNN and MSNBC, but everybody else.
	We'll be on the side of common sense accountability.
	All right.
	Two days ago, two days ago, the Vice President Horace Whose great-grandfather was a slave owner in Jamaica.
	This is a fact.
	If you don't believe me, look it up.
	So Kamala Harris, who has descended from slave-owning families.
	She's not black African.
	She's actually Jamaican and half Indian, meaning the subcontinent.
	She talked about the Roe v. Wade decision from the Supreme Court being akin to slavery.
	The reinstatement of slavery and the lack of bodily autonomy for women.
	Where Does the American community stand, in terms of the black minority community, on the issue of abortion?
	Do they welcome Roe v. Wade?
	Do they look at what's happened in the last 49 years as a black holocaust, which it really is, numerically?
	Or is this a neuralgic point that, as conservatives, we shouldn't discuss?
	Alright, let's give some facts.
	First of all, abortion is more a multi-billion dollar industry than it is an issue about the access and privileges of women to make quote choices about their body.
	Now, I don't want to hear a word from anyone who is issuing orders or supporting the issuing of orders that you must inject yourself over your objections with some untested drug, then tell me later, oh, I'm all about bodily autonomy.
	The surveys, just like when gay marriage was up for a vote in California, the most liberal state of the country at the time, gay marriage failed when asked by the American people.
	And the only reason why we don't really focus more on it was because the black vote was so disproportionately against gay marriage.
	Well, guess what?
	These needles These forced injections, so-called vaccines, black Americans oppose them at higher levels than the population at large.
	And black Americans have noticed about this billion dollar abortion industry Amazingly, they locate themselves in the communities least likely to be able to fend them off.
	One of the reasons we're going to prevail on the right and those who support life is because we're ripping the veneer off of Oh, well, this is so extreme!
	You're saying... Remember the made-up case about the 10-year-old?
	Sure, she was actually raped, but the made-up case was that but for her going to Indiana and having some abortionist assist her, she would have been forced to carry the child to term.
	The truth of the matter is, these circumstances are not what's actually going on in America.
	America, particularly blacks, do not believe that your 15-year-old daughter ought to be able to get an abortion without mom and dad knowing about it.
	Black Americans don't believe that after you've painted the room, had a party for the newborn, and picked a name, that it's still okay for you.
	Black Americans don't believe if the baby can feel pain, that it's okay to just go on with a casual treatment of abortion.
	Black Americans think that like people do in California, the plastic surgery capital of America, You have to have admitting privileges.
	There's special licensing that's necessary.
	Black Americans are wondering, why is it when you go to this inner-city ghetto clinic and something goes wrong, as it frequently is happening, Well, let's put you in an ambulance and we'll just see where it will take you because there is no priority given to you.
	These are the kinds of issues that actually are what's going on with abortion.
	It's not the hard case.
	It's not about rape.
	It's not about incest.
	It's not about when a woman's life is literally jeopardized.
	The left trots those out, but now that it goes back to the states, They're having to say, I want a baby.
	I don't care if it feels pain.
	I don't care if the baby has heartbeat.
	I don't care how late the abortion is.
	I'm for it.
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	I'm not going to put you in a spot, although I think you can probably handle yourself quite admirably.
	But as I have said here on this show, President Trump has made his decision, Horace.
	He is going to run based upon somebody I know who spoke to him recently.
	He is leaning towards announcing before the midterms to control the narrative and not after the midterms after a massive Republican victory.
	Should that occur, as I predicted, should he win the nomination and return to the White House?
	We've discussed how satisfied we are, white, black, American, with the results of his first four years.
	Is there anything he should focus on more or do differently in the next four years when it comes to your area of expertise?
	All right, the biggest threat facing America today, not our foreign adversaries.
	That's a huge threat.
	The biggest one is our indebtedness.
	And if our president made a priority of putting us back on a track of a balanced budget and paying off debt, he not only would make history for being successfully re-elected after an intermediary came in like Grover Cleveland, but he would go in the history books as someone who made America ready for the next thousand years.
	Yeah, it's hard to disagree with that.
	We need to do something to stop Capitol Hill acting like drunken sailors every couple of years.
	When it comes to what we've been discussing, race relations, just continue what he's doing, get the state out of the way, or is there something else?
	Well, see, here's my point.
	Right now, it's hard for people to appreciate, and that's why when I ask black Americans, what's it like when you go to the bank?
	When you go to the bank, what you're finding out is that they're asking you to compete with the behemoth of the federal government, who is also reached in.
	And so, instead of talking like Elizabeth Warren does, where she wants a cap of 22% on APR, if my credit record, if I'm a black person and my credit record doesn't allow me to shimmy under the 22%, well it's just too bad for me.
	Well, that's not doing me any favors.
	How about working in a way that makes it possible for a lot of black Americans to get 7%, 6%, or even 4% consumer loans?
	I'm not talking about mortgage rates.
	I'm talking about consumer loans.
	If the federal government got out of this Unbelievable growth and growing under a lot of presidents that this behavior has been doing.
	I believe Donald Trump is the kind of man that could fix that problem.
	He talks far too much sense.
	That's why every visit with him is far too short.
	You can follow him and his colleagues at Project 21 News.
	The first book is How Trump is Making Black America Great Again.
	The new book coming out imminently is Put Your Back in Chains, How Biden's Policies Harm Blacks.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	You've been listening to Horace Cooper.
	This has been one-on-one, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Keep your head on a swivel.
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