Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden ready to reinforce mask mandate
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So much to share with you today.
But the best of all, let's start with the most delicious.
The Biden administration is intending to appeal the federal judge's court decision to lift the mask mandate.
Could we be so lucky?
Could this party, could this administration perhaps take the most unpopular step possible after all those videos?
Of passengers, of stewardesses, of captains celebrating freedom, ripping off those pointless, useless cult membership icons, smothering their faces.
Please, Biden, go ahead and please appeal that decision.
The only thing that could make this year better Unfortunately, as our side, like Abbott, likes to put on a show sometimes, I think they're putting on a show for their base.
Have them appeal the mandate and to have Hillary declare as well?
Unfortunately, as our side, like Abbott likes to put on a show sometimes, I think they're putting on a show for their base.
The Democrats are with the masks.
Interesting.
But it's okay, it's okay, because our side has the answer, don't they, Mr. G?
This is from Breitbart.com, Joshua Kaplan.
Adam Kinzinger would love to run against Trump in 2024.
Your reaction?
So would Donald Trump.
Yes, indeed.
Thank you, Mr. G. So would the President, at least that's what I call him, President Trump.
Adam Kinzinger, you do amuse.
Other important news of the day.
Netflix has lost subscribers for the first time in a decade.
And I can't keep up with the figures.
In my stack of readings, we have a loss of 25% of their share value as we were in our pre-production meeting there.
It is up to 36% of Netflix value.
Their CEO actually was on air not but a few moments ago saying because of competition Netflix that has become utterly woke with Michelle Obama and Barack Obama on their board providing content for that platform well they have too much competition they may lose up to 2 million subscribers.
I guess that phrase Go Woke, Go Broke is truer than we thought.
CNN Plus looks absolutely doomed.
They've spent upwards of 90 million dollars on that platform, on promoting it, and they have a hundred and fifty thousand subscribers.
How many listeners do we have again, Mr. G?
What's the latest?
Three, three million.
Three million, and that's, that's not the video content.
That's... You, uh, Salem also didn't spend three hundred million dollars promoting it.
This is true.
Very bad business.
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Now he's willing to put up $15 billion of his own.
Yes, just write a check for $15 billion.
Super, super exciting.
And there is a buzz all across Wall Street.
The investment funds, other people who aren't woke, who realize that Twitter may not have made any money for the last decade, but its potential is huge.
And they may assist Elon Musk, and they may come in to help him make an even bigger offer that will negate the poison pill and that the shareholders will force the board to accept.
Why?
Together, in toto, the board members own less than 12% of Twitter.
Just that one purchase recently has brought Elon Musk to a level where he almost has parity with all the members of the board.
So stay tuned.
It's going to get super exciting.
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Last news I want to mention right now, a UK judge has finally approved the extradition of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the United States to stand trial.
I know a lot of you are going to have opinions.
The Home Secretary Priti Patel of the Boris Johnson administration has to finally approve that judge's decision, but it looks like Assange will be in the U.S.
imminently and face trial for what he did leaking national secrets on the public stage that is WikiLeaks.
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There's a story I wanted to share with you, my gosh, almost a month ago when I first heard it, but other things got in the way, other distractions, and then I met the person who it has to do with again, and it triggered in me the response to actually talk about it this time.
Eric, are you there?
I am here.
Can you hear me?
There we go.
Yes.
Where do all my stories come from?
There's usually two sources for my stories.
The post office, 7-Eleven, and occasionally walking the dogs.
Good for you.
You remembered all three of them.
Well, thank you, Eric.
Yes, the post office, 7-Eleven, or walking my dogs in the morning.
This is from the post office.
There is a woman at the post office.
Most of them are super nice.
One of them is very nice.
She hails from Russia.
I'll just say her name is Svetlana.
And Svetlana, she's just delightful.
She's a professional.
She smiles and she does her job well.
A few weeks ago we were chatting as I was buying some stamps and she told me that Democrat customers in the post office have been abusive to her.
They know she's Russian and they've said things like, Why can't you get your friend Putin to stop bombing Ukraine?
What kind of ass does that?
You're in a post office.
A woman is serving you professionally.
She's an immigrant to America.
And yes, her name may be Svetlana.
She may be from Russia.
But you think this is your opportunity to be a racist and to make comments like that?
That a woman who's free living here in America deserves your abuse because you're a Democrat?
I want to share that story with you just to indicate who these people really are.
And then on Monday I saw her again and she said, I'm so glad to see you.
Today is my last day.
I've had it with people here in the swamp.
I'm moving to Florida.
Svetlana, you know what your real name is.
God bless you for putting up with the cretins, the morons, the cultists for so long.
I wish you prosperity, safety in a free state in Florida.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First on the Salem Network, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
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Hey, Eric.
- Hey Eric, is everything over here now, or did we duplicate or did we duplicate stuff?
If I need to do a Skype hit, can we do it on the old TriCaster in the other studio, or do we always do it here?
Okay.
All right.
Because Larry, we asked Larry O'Connor to come on the Newsmax pre-record and he's going to be in the town hall offices tomorrow when we do it.
So he could just, I could be at home in my studio and he could just sit in my old studio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alright, well let's see if he can get out of his meeting.
Okay.
2D, okay.
How disgusting Democrats are.
Oh, let's have a look at some of these.
Three, four, and five.
Well, if we prevail in this hearing on Friday, then the judge will make a formal written recommendation, which of course could be appealed, but that would say that Marjorie Taylor Greene is disqualified from public office, and then the Secretary of State would put instructions at all the polling places in her district in Georgia, saying that votes that are cast for her will not count and will be discarded.
Wow.
She's off the ballot, if you will.
Exactly.
I was listed, I had the great pleasure of being listed as the poorest man in Congress for 36 years.
I still had making a hell of a lot more money than anybody else because I was getting a senator's salary.
No kidding.
I didn't think you should make money while you're in office.
But at any rate.
Is he drunk?
We are going to continue to encourage New Yorkers to wear a mask on the subway and we believe that we have the authorization to do so.
Wow, that's incredible.
Um, six, seven...
You're in a tube where I feel like people cough more when they get on there.
They get on the flight and everybody's hacking up a lung, and now people are like, yay, whipping off the masks.
And, you know, to the point that Sarah made, I think it's absolutely correct.
If I got on that flight and all of a sudden there was an announcement mid-flight, I can't get off the plane.
And now because this judge, who was rated unqualified, like she was an intern like six years ago, Now she's a federal judge.
She got on at 33 years of age.
Trump's youngest and probably worst appointment.
She basically is one of those people who's tired of wearing a mask and ruled as such.
Okay, that's fine.
Alright.
Are we calling Greg?
Will you...
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He is the author of Witch Hunt and also The Russia Hoax.
Greg Jarrett, welcome back to America First!
Sebastian, always good to be with you.
How are you?
I am well, but I'm a little bit disturbed that the man who bears the title President of the United States is afraid of five-foot bunny rabbits, and it's the story at the top of your Twitter feed.
Can you tell us what's behind this title?
Who's the bigger fraud, the Easter Bunny or Joe and Hunter Biden?
Well, I'll take the bunny as the more credible story between the two.
I pose the question, you know, are we supposed to believe a rabbit gives gifts to millions of children in a single night, or should we believe the Bidens did nothing wrong, raking in millions of dollars from foreign interests, selling access and influence and selling out their country?
Of course they did terrible things that were wrong.
They committed, in my judgment, a variety of crimes, including bribery, fraud, money laundering, perhaps racketeering.
They seem to be operating an organized criminal enterprise, engaged in selling influence, influence peddling, which is a crime.
And there's a grand jury that is now looking at it and I would expect, quite frankly, to be a multi-count indictment against Hunter Biden that implicates his father because the evidence is there.
Let's just listen to this very peculiar clip.
I don't know if he sounds like he's drunk or he's just fatigued.
This is Joe Biden spinning another peculiar story about him and his income.
Cut, full play, cut.
I was listed, I had the great pleasure of being listed as the poorest man in Congress for 36 years.
I still had making a hell of a lot more money than anybody else because I was getting a senator's salary.
No kidding.
I didn't think you should make money while you're in office.
But at any rate.
Poorest man in the Senate.
Does that really matter, Greg Jarrett, if we've got the emails, the voicemails from Hunter Biden that say 10% for the big guy?
No, it's utterly irrelevant.
You know, as I pointed out in yesterday's podcast with Peter Schweitzer, who has written a terrific book called Red Handed, we went through all of the evidence.
You know, Joe Biden claims he never made a nickel.
The evidence on the laptop proves otherwise.
He said he never met with Hunter Biden's business partners.
There are photographs of the meetings.
There are emails, thank you emails, from business partners, foreign partners, saying thanks for setting up that meeting with your father.
You've got the testimony of Tony Bobulinski, Hunter Biden's partner, who said, I met twice with Joe Biden to discuss his cut of the proposed China deal, which netted the Biden $6 million.
So, you know, for Joe Biden to pretend That, well, gee, you know, I didn't make much money as a senator, so therefore I'm innocent of cashing in and peddling influence with my son afterwards.
That just doesn't cut it.
Let's talk about this grand jury indictment.
You know what that means.
You know how that functions.
How significant is it that of all the things we've seen, Mueller and everything else, that it seems like John Durham runs a very tight ship, Greg, because We see these documents come out of the court every couple of weeks.
Fascinating details on Sussman, his lies, and so forth.
But we see nary a leak, which is very unusual in this city, is it not?
It is, and it's a testament to John Durham.
Look, as a journalist, you know, I would like more information, whether it's a leak or a court filing.
We're going to get more information as we approach the trial that begins scheduled next month of Michael Sussman, who was, you know, the attorney for the Clinton campaign and essentially Hillary Clinton.
You know, Sussman is charged with peddling phony information of a collusion story to the FBI and lying about who he was representing, claiming Oh gee, you know, I was just representing myself as a concerned citizen when in fact, you know, Sussman was representing Hillary Clinton in her campaign, as well as a research firm.
And apparently we knew, the CIA knew back as far as 2017, that one significant aspect of the, you know, collusion allegations was quote unquote User-created translation.
It was all made up.
Why the CIA held that information as, you know, the FBI continued its dilating probe of Donald Trump that led to a special counsel, if the CIA had simply come forward and said, you know what?
This is made up.
This was invented by the Hillary campaign.
One wonders the effect it would have had positively on the Trump presidency.
So do you have faith after all the crimes we've seen gone unpunished that the Durham probe could actually lead to some prosecutions and actual indictments for famous individuals?
Well, you've already got three significant indictments.
An FBI lawyer who copped a plea.
You've got Igor Danchenko, the guy who fed the phony information to the dossier.
Uh, and you've got, uh, Clinton, you know, attorney.
Uh, and, you know, it seems like Durham has the goods on Sussman.
He's got his lie in writing.
So now all Sussman can do is to say, well, it wasn't a material lie.
In other words, it was an unimportant lie.
Now, it's manifest that that his lie was pretty darn significant.
As for others, uh, in Friday's filing, Durham Held out the prospect of further indictments.
So we'll have to see who they are.
It should be Hillary Clinton, but it never will be, because she was very careful having so many others in a chain of individuals do her dirty work for them.
And unless one of them finally steps forward and tells the truth, then it says, yeah, she put us up to this.
Uh, then no.
You know, she'll escape once again as she did with her email scandal in which she clearly committed crimes.
Yeah.
30,000 emails scrubbed, deleted on a private server and her assistants topping and tailing classified emails off government systems, printing them out and then delivering to her in an unclassified format.
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We'll be back with Greg momentarily.
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Red.
Yes.
That was great.
I want to talk a little bit about mask mandates and where Biden can go from here legally.
Yeah, absolutely.
Good.
Eric, can you not rotate the America First logo on the bottom?
And can it not be put on the top somewhere, left or right?
All right, then you can't swap it out in segments, like you couldn't put it in right now?
But that doesn't make sense.
We had just the America First ones.
I know when he was cycling through them showing us.
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Where is it?
Wow.
Wow.
Can we get that audio?
Okay.
All right, just print that one out for me and the Feinstein one, and I'll just read it.
Amen.
How's life, Greg?
Yeah, everything's good.
You know, enjoying warmer weather down south and I'm about to go take a walk on the beach.
Very nice.
Did you have a good Easter?
Yeah, you know, my wife's out in Los Angeles visiting my youngest daughter, so I was solo, but spent some time with friends and, you know, so it was great.
How about you?
Good, good.
I knew I'd had to spend time with my mother-in-law, but at least we were well fed.
Well, good food makes up for everything.
It can do.
It's a decent cushion.
All right.
Standby.
by 70 seconds.
And I'm going to play that cut of Joy Reads before I go back to Greg. - Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll tee it up.
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Got to get his reaction to the decision from a federal judge to rescind the federal mask mandate, which is making certain people very unhappy.
This is the latest meltdown from Joy Reid.
You're in a tube where I feel like people cough more when they get on there.
They get on the flight and everybody's hacking up a lung, and now people are like, yay, whipping off the masks.
And, you know, to the point that Sarah made, I think it's absolutely correct.
If I got on that flight and all of a sudden there was an announcement mid-flight, I can't get off the plane.
And now because this judge, who was rated unqualified, like she was an intern like six years ago, Now she's a federal judge.
She got on at 33 years of age.
Trump's youngest and probably worst appointment.
She basically is one of those people who's tired of wearing a mask and ruled as such.
Well, I don't think it's a point of law, Greg, that if a mandate is rescinded, that doesn't stop you from wearing a mask, a double mask or a body condom.
I'm not sure Joy Reid doesn't understand that.
But talk to us about the legal scenarios right now.
Shockingly, we kept the news last night, the Biden administration is considering challenging this.
Politically, I think that's suicide.
But give us your legal analysis of the mandate originally and now where we are.
Well, yeah, I mean, Joy Reid's attack on the judge based on her age is just silly.
I mean, Joy Reid could mature to the age of 100 years old and she'll still be dumber than a bag of hammers.
A person who sees everything through the lens of race, you know, her progressive bias Uh, fills all of her her commentary.
How about a little common sense here?
I read the judge's 59 page ruling.
It makes sense.
The CDC didn't have the authority to do it any more than they have the authority to do the eviction moratorium of the vaccine mandate, both of which were overturned.
You know, it's rank lawlessness in the Biden administration.
He directed it.
The CDC capitulated.
And now In the wake of the decision by the judge, Joe Biden has called off and said, well, it should be up to individuals.
Well, you just defeated your Justice Department's ability to appeal the case.
They're already waffling on it, saying, well, we're going to wait and see what the CDC has to say.
CDC does not have the authority.
And that has been made abundantly clear in the three cases I just cited, all of which have been overturned.
The CDC continues to exceed its authority at the direction of Joe Biden, and Biden knows what he's doing is without power and authority, but he does it anyway, and in fact has admitted that he does.
The eviction moratorium, well, we can't do that, but we're going to do it anyway to buy some time.
My lord, he's sworn to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the country, And yet, he breaches that duty continuously.
We're out of time, but I've got to ask you, yes or no, if this goes to an appeal, this is going to get shut down?
Yeah.
You know, I would wait and see.
I mean, who knows what the appellate courts will do, but I'm pretty confident the Supreme Court will do exactly what they did in the other mandate cases, and it would be, you know, strike down the mask mandate.
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Is Mr. G there?
I know he's a very busy man, but is he out there with his NASCAR headset?
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But let's go back to the crazies.
So this kind of shocks me because we love law enforcement here and we tend to think that law enforcement lives in the real world.
Don't they?
I mean they have to.
They walk the blue line.
This is now a former law enforcement officer who is the mayor of New York.
This is the man who's spending New York taxpayer dollars to put billboard signs up in Florida for gay Floridians to say Hey!
Come back to New York if you don't like DeSantis!
Come back to a crime-infested tax hellhole that is New York.
But this is his response to that glorious Trump-appointed judge saying, no, sorry CDC, sorry HHS, you don't have the constitutional power to put masks on Americans.
This, oh and by the way, for those who are listening and not watching, he's wearing a mask as he's saying it.
Play cup.
We are going to continue to encourage New Yorkers to wear masks on the subway, and we believe that we have the authorization to do so.
Can you put that up there and just freeze it?
So this is, it looks like he's outside LaGuardia or somewhere.
This is the mayor and he's standing there in the open.
There's a bridge maybe, maybe a mile away and there's scrubland behind him and there's nobody, nobody for a mile and he's wearing a mask.
It's a cult.
This is an utter, utter cult.
But it's not just him.
It's the mayor of Chicago.
More dangerous than downtown Baghdad.
At least somebody has a little bit of gumption and asked her, how on earth could you be planning to run again?
Cut seven!
Play cut!
Get to your question, sir.
Across the street we had a police officer on duty, the victim of a hit and run.
We have Michigan Avenue, the magnificent miles now referred to as the Mile of Fear.
The water tower place has thrown the keys back to the lender.
They say they don't want to be in Chicago anymore.
Real Chicagoans are asking me, how could you possibly even consider Running for re-election as Mayor of the City of Chicago after all the harm you've caused?
Well, I disagree with you fundamentally, and I don't think I need to address and dignify your comments.
I think the people who lose their family members every weekend with the dozens of shootings and deaths, they agree with the person who asked that question.
Let's find out who that person is and maybe we're going to have to get him on the show because he sounds like a real journalist.
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The End That candy bar I have in the afternoon is one of theirs.
Everything's high protein and just literally just cut out the sugar, cut out the carbs and it just, you know, it's changing because if you eat carbs you don't burn fat.
That's the very simple thing.
Vegetables as snacks makes the whole difference for anything I've seen.
You start eating.
But even then, you've got to be super careful because, like, you know, carrots, it's just sugar.
It's like eating an apple.
It's just – they're very specific.
They give you a whole list of stuff that's good and stuff that isn't.
Because getting your sugar from something that's a vegetable, you might as well be eating a candy bar.
45 seconds.
That was a very smooth transition, by the way.
You like that?
That was very well done.
I didn't know where you were going with that.
I thought it was just going to be another merch plug.
Alright, we've got to put our order in for the merch now.
Okay, my pillow.
Yeah, I can't believe I haven't asked for a Britten House shirt sooner.
That shirt is so cool.
Alright, you can go ahead and take now, Jono.
20 seconds.
Step back.
Oh, yeah.
Step back.
I know Sebastian well.
Listen to him.
He's with us.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Most kind, most kind.
I kind of don't enjoy doing this, but she's in the news.
She's got no ethics.
She's got no morals.
She's negotiating packages with MSNBC as she's giving interviews to them.
Let's go to Jen Psaki.
This is perhaps the most egregious example of virtue signaling I've heard in a long time.
This is an audio cut, her interview about Ron DeSantis' bill protecting children in Florida.
Harsh and cruel attempts at laws or laws that we're seeing in some states like Florida.
This is a political wedge issue and an attempt to win a culture war.
And they're doing that in a way that is harsh and cruel to a community of kids, especially.
I'm going to get emotional about this issue because it's horrible.
But, you know, it's like kids who are bullied.
And like all these leaders are taking steps to hurt them and hurt their lives and hurt their families.
And you look at some of these laws in these states and it is going after parents who are in loving relationships who have kids.
It's completely outrageous.
Sorry, this is an issue that makes me completely crazy.
How can you stop perverts talking about sex to little children that aren't their children?
It's so hurtful.
How do they do this?
It's a wedge issue.
They want to win a culture war.
We can win a culture war, but you're not allowed to win a culture war.
I was thinking about tweeting this out earlier today, and I didn't get around to it because it's been one of those days, but it's very simple.
If you're an adult talking about sex to somebody else's child, you are a pervert.
You are a pervert.
Whether you're a stranger in a long Macintosh in a trench coat in a park, Whether you're somebody who happens to bear the title of teacher, that is obscene.
It should be illegal in every decent state and every nation in a civilized world.
You have no job Absolutely no authority to talk about sex or gender or anything to do with what you do with your sexual organs to a minor.
And a minor who you're not even related to.
It is obscene.
It is degenerate.
It is perverted.
And the fact that Jen Psaki cries about people not being allowed to be perverts with other people's children tells you who the Democrat Party really are.
And it is so exciting that this is a mid-term election year.
Here's the only question that matters.
Are you part of the solution?
Are you running?
Are you actively supporting somebody who's running?
I don't mean for President, Senate or Congress.
For the local school board.
For the local community center library council.
That's how they did it.
Now it's our turn.
This is America First.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Salem News.
No, they've made that change too.
Yeah, Salem News, unless it was from last week.
Salem News, Arlington?
No, it's going to be Salem News ENG VA.
All together.
All one word?
Mm-hmm.
I'm not seeing anything on...
Did we just hit the video?
Well, this is Salem News Arlington.
This is the new one they sent you and there's no... SalemNewsENGVA.com.
That doesn't make sense.
That's not, that's not.
Can you talk to them?
I'm not getting any audio.
Thank you.
Hello, hello.
Ah, hi.
So we're having trouble with the Skype.
So it's SalemNewsInchVA.com.
Hello.
It's different.
Yeah, he talked to you.
Hey.
How we doing?
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
I'm good.
What am I supposed to be holding on to?
Hold it.
Hold it right there.
We're working out the Skype issues.
I just sent you the... Oh, so Salem News, ENGVA... You don't need to read out... That's not a Skype ID.
Oh, sorry.
That's not a Skype ID, though.
Is that... That's not a Skype ID, guys?
Is that what... It is.
It's got to be at gmail.com.
Okay.
Do you want to just try calling me?
Yeah, send me yours right now.
Maybe that might be easier.
Before you had to call us for whatever reason.
It should be in that document, I think.
I do have it listed in there.
And it's all together in one word.
I just split it up.
All right, 39 seconds.
That's the new studio.
Yeah, you'll get to see the new studio, Jen.
We had it last week, but we were on Skype, as I recall.
All right, Skype is all the way down.
four seconds.
Goodbye.
Dr. G.
She is in the house on America First.
All right, guys.
Before we introduce our next guest, our regular, regular guest at this time, I want to play you an audio cut that she will explain for us.
I don't think I've ever heard anything like it.
Play cut.
This is looking real good.
Now we got a new DA in L.A., so they're gonna... I got caught on the 14th, fool.
Right there in Compton.
Thursday, so... They're gonna drop a gang of, um... Like, my gun enhancement, my gang enhancement.
My gang enhancement's 10 years, fool, for being a gang member.
And then the gun and the commission of the crime.
I don't get that n***a name on my face.
That's the champ right there.
That's dumb.
That's the n***a right there, bro.
He's making his story changes for all of us, fool.
You know, so... I'm just grateful, fool.
Like, I got good news off that n***a. So, at least now I know, like, they're like, you're coming home, blood.
Like, they already told me, my lover told me, you're coming home.
That's the effing guy Gascon and I'm getting his name tattooed on my face.
What does it all mean?
There's one person who can answer it for us.
She is our West Coast Warrior Princess.
She is the host of The Morning Answer.
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Jennifer, just tell us what on earth we just heard.
Is that incredible?
That is audio.
Tucker Carlson is actually doing a special about the suicide of Los Angeles.
And one of the ways that Los Angeles is killing itself is with the District Attorney George Gascon, who has prioritized criminals over victims.
And this video is not the only one of its kind, this audio that you just played.
In the audio, you heard a criminal who was convicted of murder, Sam.
He murdered his marijuana delivery man as he robbed him, he killed him, and was sitting in jail celebrating the fact that George Gascogne was taking office.
Why?
Because he knew that the special enhancements, like him being a gang member, would be removed from his sentencing, which would shorten the time that he was in jail so that he could get home quicker.
And you heard him say he was celebrating so much that he was going to get Gascogne's name tattooed on his face now he's making historic changes you heard that convicted murderer say that but historic changes for who this isn't this isn't the first time that we have heard audio like this there were several other leaked audio phone calls from prisoners who were celebrating That George Gascogne was in there.
One was very famous.
You may remember from a few years ago where prisoners were drinking white lightning celebrating the fact that George Gascogne was elected because they knew that any punishment would be pretty much off the table.
It's easier to commit murder in Los Angeles than I think it is to probably show up at the Capitol and protest peacefully on January 6th.
All right, so here's the question, and I apologize in advance for those who've heard me say it before, because it returns with some regularity with our discussions with our good friend, Jen.
Are we, who, you know, this isn't a fiction, this isn't some dystopian novel by Andrew Klavan.
This is an audio of a criminal, of a murderer, Saying I'm going to tattoo the Democrat law enforcement officer's name on my face because I'm going to be free again.
Is this discussion we're having, is this just a discussion that we are having on a conservative radio show?
Is it just an audio that Tucker Carlson is showing on his special?
Or does it in any way shape or form Permeate down to real people in California, Jen.
Well, it has.
It has started to permeate down.
Of course, this is a huge topic of conversation for conservatives, but I just actually did a speaking engagement with some awesome ladies in Palos Verdes last night, and I pulled some fresh numbers on just where people's attitudes are, specifically here in California.
And one of the things that you have to understand that's happening right now is that there is a recall attempt for George Gascón.
And they are trying to collect signatures.
They seem to be on track.
This group of organizers, former prosecutors, and, by the way, victims' families who have had the people that murdered their family members let out of prison in George Gascombe's Los Angeles.
And so a lot of people have come together, and they are on track to complete the signature process and hopefully force a recall of George Gascombe.
That's number one.
But for all of these people who are trying, I guess, George Gascon says he's trying to help the inner cities, right?
He's trying to not lock people up for their entire life.
He's trying to rehabilitate people.
This is what he says.
He likes to use the T word.
He likes to say he's going to transform L.A.
County, and he says he's going to help the inner city communities.
But there's fresh polling out in Los Angeles that shows Hispanic voters particularly, Are very upset with the way that George Gascogne is handling crime, the way that Democrats as a party are handling crime.
Do you realize, Seban, this is something nationally, but I think it has real implications in California because the bulk of our voters are Hispanic voters.
This was an important block to Democrats for a really long time.
Do you know that the approval rating for Joe Biden overall Meaning all of the leftist policies that he stands by and in front of and behind.
He's got a 26% approval rating with Hispanic voters today.
That's according to a polling I saw published in The Hill yesterday.
Let's stop there.
Do you have any sense, because you have this amazing show with Grant in the morning.
You're the hardest working woman I know in radio.
I'm sure you get callers from that community.
Is it one particular issue?
Is it crime?
Is it something else?
Is it the gas prices?
Because for an incumbent Democrat president, 15 months in, that's suicide figures.
So what are they saying is the reason?
Well, I would say it's I've always called them quality of life issues.
Glenn Young can call them kitchen table issues.
And it seems primarily what is being what's what people are upset about.
Yes, is the economy, the approval ratings for Biden for the left in general on inflation and gas prices, particularly in California, where we're still paying upwards of $6 a gallon for regular gasoline.
That's a problem.
But you also have what's going on in the schools, which people were really upset by.
There were a lot of values being pushed on our children and are being pushed on our children that Hispanic voters do not like.
This is a big deal.
And of course, the crime and safety issue.
In California, one of the biggest wins that we had from the recall attempt on Gavin Newsom is that 56 percent of Hispanic voters in the state of California supported the recall of Gavin Newsom.
It was the largest block of any other racial demographic.
And so my money is on the fact that we can make some change.
We can bring Hispanics into the mix if we focus on these quality of life issues, if we focus on George Gascón and his failure to keep our streets safe and our neighborhoods safe.
Because I won't even call them minority groups because Hispanics really are the majority group in Los Angeles.
They've had enough and the pushback is real.
And look, whether or not we can make a recall happen, I'm always optimistic that at some point we can.
But it looks like Chessa Bodine in San Francisco is on his way out in San Francisco.
They've been moving.
Things have been moving there with pushback.
Here because Hispanic voters are so upset with Gascon and his policies.
I believe it's very possible that we can boot him out of office.
But what do we do until then?
The streets are, it's open season.
Gang activity has not been this high since I was a kid.
I can remember being frightened of drive-by shootings in Los Angeles.
That changed.
Things got better.
And now they're getting worse again.
And it's because, what's the punishment?
You can't deter people if they think they can literally get away with murder And get out of jail in just a few years.
You know, the guy who killed, murdered Jacqueline Avant just a few months ago in Beverly Hills was another one of these guys who got caught bragging on a jail phone call, jailhouse phone call, where he said, oh, thank God I'll never get three strikes thrown at me and was bragging about how George Gascon was going to save him after he murdered Jacqueline Avant in Beverly Hills, pulling up to her home, shooting her in the back.
They think they can get away with it.
We think criminals don't know the system.
They acutely know the system, and they know how to get around it.
They know how to keep their life of crime in business.
They don't want to sit and rot away in jail, so they know how to avoid it, and they know someone like George Gascon is going to help them.
The real question is, and it's probably something that you can't answer at this point, is can we see a similar trend occurring in California that we saw in the Commonwealth of Virginia, where those who were previously apolitical in the minority community, especially the Asian community, Said, enough is enough.
Volunteered.
Found the local precinct captain.
Said, I've never done anything politically, but I'm breathing.
I've got a heartbeat.
Use me.
Will we see not just disgruntled Hispanics, but Hispanics who say, I want to make a difference?
That's the real question for California.
Wow.
We only got to one topic.
We better get busy in the second segment.
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There's a call on line two.
Call on line two.
Um... The new studio looks nice.
Yeah.
It looks like they got the camera figured out around you now a little better than last week.
It looks great.
Yeah, it's so far so good.
Fingers crossed.
And it's okay.
I got my Millennium Falcon up yesterday.
As long as you have that up, that's all you need.
I'm very excited.
I've got my Batmobile, my Lava Lamp, my Aston Martin.
I love it. - We're good, we're good. - You got your red phone.
That's my hotline number, right?
That's the hotline right there.
That's the hotline right there with the red light.
Only special people have that number.
And the bat phone.
You gotta have the bat phone.
Of course you do.
I love, you know, the lava lamp is, it looks gigantic.
It is.
It is.
Is it three feet tall?
It's three foot tall.
It's the biggest one I could find.
I love it.
I love it all.
It looks good.
Eric.
Yes.
If you put up the podcast buffer, it doesn't work.
Put it up.
Uh, yeah.
Expression 2.
Can you cut to that real quick, JL?
You see?
As in, well, uh... Oh, yeah, so I take the lower third off.
Right.
Or isn't there a version we have where the information is on the side?
I don't know.
I mean, Jay... The old one.
The one we used in the other studio.
Oh, well, uh, the one you didn't like.
The one with the cross-armed.
Oh!
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
So are you gonna remember to remove the Chiron?
Yeah, I can do that.
Okay, good.
Yeah.
Okay.
You can come back to him.
Yeah.
Yeah, my bad.
Alright.
So tell me what's happening.
You tell me.
How's Katie doing?
She is so good and I'm so bummed.
I keep asking Daniel to get the links because I want to send them to you and I know she wants to send them to the Heritage Foundation as well.
I haven't gotten them but yesterday was like amazing.
I had to text her and be like right on.
I mean she just nails it.
She's really good.
Good.
But you know that.
I don't have to.
No but she you know a couple years ago she hated it.
I just feel like the more you do it, the more practiced you get and the easier it becomes.
Exactly.
And we have so much fun.
I mean, we chat about everything.
So hopefully she's having a good time, too.
It seems great.
Hey, I'm going to see you in two weeks.
Crazy.
I'm excited.
I can't wait to see the movie.
It should be good.
It's amazing.
So do you guys have your own control room in there?
Is it all fancy-schmancy?
Show her the Starship.
The Starship Enterprise.
Look at you guys!
Geoff is always hiding.
Way in the back, I know.
But nice pink.
Is it pink?
Yes.
Very nice.
He says it's purple.
No, no.
John is pink.
Oh, yes.
Oh, John's pink.
Oh, there we go.
I like it.
You guys are all decked out for spring.
Do you like my massive team?
Yes.
It looks good, though.
That's very similar to how our control room is set up.
Like that.
That's neat.
Looks good.
You do have your own cubby all by yourself over there, JP.
Do the wide shot.
Wide shot.
30 seconds.
Jennifer, what do I put down here?
I've got a little hole.
Oh, you need something.
Do you want me to send you my picture?
I'll frame one.
Nice!
That is a good answer.
That is a Trumpian answer.
I have a glamour shot I can send you.
I like that.
What should you put down there?
You need something blue down there.
Or a minion.
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I've crammed all my garbage here that my wife doesn't want to see at home.
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Right next to Rom the Space Knight.
And if you don't know who Rom the Space Knight is, shame on you.
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Right now, I've already got one from Jen.
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Okay, where shall we go from here?
Let's talk about two things.
First thing, masks.
Yes.
Can we be so lucky?
This is the question I asked previously with Greg Jarrett from Fox.
Can we be so lucky?
I mean, is this administration so stupid, such a hostage to their own ideology, that they're going to appeal the rescinding of the mandate?
I mean, can we get so lucky, Jen, in a midterm election year?
You know that I am, like, I love messaging, right?
This is kind of my jam.
My major is in journalism.
It's your fang.
It's my fang.
With an emphasis in public relations.
And I actually shouted.
Yesterday on The Morning Answer, Grant and I sit down, we start the show right at 6 a.m., right before you joined us.
And I said, are these people that stupid and that bad?
I don't want to help the other side.
There is not one shred of me that wants to help Joe Biden, but you almost can't help but go, are you nuts?
Who is running the show around here?
If people are singing on airplanes, The stewardesses, the captains, there's a guy singing a song as he's bringing the trash bag for you to put your masks in.
They are so happy.
There was one lady we played on the show who was actually like tearing up in crime because, and I actually brought you up at full disclosure.
Grant's like, Grant said to me, why, why is she crying?
And I said, well, she's, she's happy.
I said, think about what these people have had to do for two years.
They've had to enforce things.
And I said, look, I said, I love Dennis Prager and I love Sebastian Gorka.
They feel strongly about not wearing a mask on an airplane.
Do you want to be the stewardess that has to tell them to pull their mask?
And we laughed about it.
We thought, this is a tough job.
They have to be enforcement officers.
They were pushed to do that.
Now, some of them loved their job, and those were the ones we didn't like.
But the ones who were forced into it, of course, are going to be overjoyed.
So what do you have?
You have Joe Biden and Jen Psaki who have to continue to create a crisis.
They're removing Title 42 protections at the border.
So there's no COVID there, but yet there's COVID in the air above Sacramento.
I mean, it's just, it's unbelievable.
But did you hear Biden finally get something right yesterday, Sam?
What?
When he was in New Hampshire, he was exiting the plane.
I think it was a C-SPAN reporter who said, President Biden, what do you, what do you think?
Should people wear masks on airplanes?
And he said, people should do what they want to do.
So who the heck is running the show, if that's what Biden really thinks?
It's the bunny rabbit.
Didn't you see the video of the bunny rabbit carrying him off saying, no, no, no, come over here.
It's President Bunny.
We got it.
We finally got it.
The Easter...
Bunny, Barack Obama, is controlling the country.
I think that's what's happening.
But here we go.
You read my mind.
Here's the second story.
I swear she has her camera looking at my production notes.
We have ESP.
We have ESPN.
Somebody's watching here.
Biden has told Obama that he's running again, Jen.
Again.
Can we be so lucky?
It would be great.
But I am not a betting woman.
You know I would prefer buying shoes rather than throwing my money away at a table someplace in Vegas.
Wise lady.
But if I were a betting woman, I would bet you almost everything I have that Biden is not running again.
No.
He is not going to do it.
There is no way.
The Easter Bunny is corralling him.
The mask mandate is going to be extremely unpopular.
He's got a 37% approval rating when it comes to the economy.
He's got a 39% approval rating when it comes to COVID, which he was elected to fix, remember?
Yeah.
His foreign policy is disastrous.
He's not going to do it.
And so what will happen?
Well, I think the stuff with Hunter Biden is being reported, not by mistake.
This is the way that they get Joe Biden out or make a deal with him to go away.
And in comes, could it be Kamala Harris?
Could it be someone else?
Something else is coming down the pike.
It is not going to be another four years of Joe Biden.
It's not.
Is it going to be, is it going to be Dianne Feinstein?
No, because Dianne Feinstein and Joe Biden might be hanging out in the same pasture, I guess.
There was this big report in the San Francisco Chronicle this week by two reporters, one of which was interviewed on our local Fox affiliate.
And they, for this article, talked to four Democrat senators.
They were unnamed, but four Democrats.
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Four senators refused to give their names.
Yes, because of the story, because of the weight of the story.
And I'm with you on this, and I'll tell you why in a second, but four Democrat senators, unnamed, they talked to members of the House of Representatives and former members of Dianne Feinstein's staff, and apparently they're all saying that she can't do it anymore.
Her memory is really bad.
In one of the accounts, they said that she was talking to someone she knew and reintroduced herself four times during the same conversation.
Now, I don't even want to make fun of her.
This is just sad.
Hang on.
The San Francisco Chronicle, well-known conservative rag, right?
Oh, absolutely.
Definitely a conservative rag.
So, and it's not like they have to worry about Gavin Newsom appointing someone like a Republican to office.
I mean, if she needs to leave, she can go.
So why then are Democrats not going to her directly with some backbone saying, Diane, we love you.
You serve this country, but your time is over.
You need to get out.
You need to resign for the good of the party.
Why are they not doing that?
Why are they going behind the scenes instead and talking about her to try to get the headlines to push her out?
What's the theory, Jen?
Why aren't they doing that?
You know, I don't know.
I don't know why they're not.
I mean, this is not Chuck Grassley in Iowa.
First of all, Chuck Grassley, way more robust than Dianne Feinstein right now.
But this is not a purple state.
This is a state that is fully blue and that there's no chance they're going to lose any power in the Senate.
So why wouldn't they just go to her directly?
It's a question.
I mean, it's a national security issue at this point.
It is.
And, you know, this is the woman who had a Chinese spy as her driver for 20 years.
She wasn't great at full strength to make decisions that would protect our national security.
She can't be great when she can't remember people's names.
Who would it be if they try and get rid of her?
Is there a likely candidate?
Probably Eric Garcetti.
Oh my gosh.
I would imagine Garcetti's probably on the list.
Oh, because he's not going to be the ambassador to India, right?
Absolutely not.
His nomination is on hold.
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It's so weird.
Why don't they get rid of her?
I don't know.
Isn't that bizarre?
It is.
I mean, because clearly she's... And they've got plenty of people that they would love to throw in there.
Right.
I mean, they would love to give Garcetti something.
Right.
And you know, Gavin Newsom is really close up on that list.
I cannot believe it.
On the presidential list.
So... But in California, the power structure is decided, like, solely by those from San Francisco, right?
Yeah.
Like, everyone kind of doesn't get anything.
But they love Garcetti for whatever reason.
I have a theory.
Oh, here we go.
Gavin Newsom wants to run for Senate when he's done with Governor.
Well, that's one of the things that they were saying is that he didn't point himself to that seat.
Oh, he could do that?
I guess he could.
I wouldn't deny it.
And you know, there's so much corruption in the state, would they even challenge it?
Probably not.
Corruption in California?
Scott Wiener, who is just, first of all, a ridiculous name, but Scott Wiener, who is the purveyor of all bad ideas in California.
I'll have to send you guys a story for next week.
He has a new plan that's going to require you have to get transgender training if you are a doctor, nurse, or healthcare provider.
So, I asked the question today, I'm like, so I need someone in the healthcare industry to tell me how this works.
If you are a woman, or if you're a man identifying as a woman, Do you get checked for ovarian cancer or are you going to get checked for prostate cancer?
Are we playing fairytale here?
What corpses are they going to get from the mortuary to prove to you that a man can get pregnant?
When you're going to your med school surgery 101 class that my son just took, I mean, it's biology right there.
You can't kind of make it up.
You can't, like, do a Lego simulation.
It's not, um, definitely not subjective.
That's for, that's for sure.
But what was funny is that we had this nurse call in who works for an endocrinologist and she said, this is outrageous.
We have been trained on how to deal with the hormones that exist out there.
We don't need to be trained again to try to figure out how we deal with them when they're in someone else.
I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous.
But more hoops to jump through.
Have a great rest of the week, you guys.
All right.
Bye.
Yeah, I think that the training should be to fight them off, not to deal with them.
Newsome going to the Senate, though, would actually make a lot of sense, too.
A perfect stepping stone for him for what I think his final plan ultimately is.
He wants to run for president one day.
Final plan.
Do you see, too?
Yeah, I love it.
Can you drag that screen, because I can read the names and I can barely read what you fill in.
Can you make that box a little bigger?
I'm sorry, which box?
Oh, it doesn't do anything, does it?
If you enlarge it down.
Oh, that's good.
That's a little better.
Yeah, okay, leave it there.
That's good.
Okay, so Green's phone.
All right.
One minute.
One minute.
And, uh, Ed, the next break, um, if you are in and out.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Jeff, does my desk look too messy?
Oh, there was a lot on it.
Yeah, I noticed that.
I know.
But what are you going to do?
I'd rather it look messy than clean because it looks like you're doing stuff.
Right.
A messy desk is a good desk.
You didn't hear when Trump did that video when he was running?
No!
He said his desk was too messy and he did this like 10 minute YouTube video about that means you're doing deals that means things are going on.
You know the funniest thing about whenever he said, let's do a photograph, he would have piles of papers and then everybody had to come into the Oval Office and take the piles off the table.
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Welcome.
Hi, you know, before I get to what I called about, that was really interesting while I was on hold, and you were telling the people you work with there that Trump would have papers staged on his desk.
No, no, not staged.
It looked like he was busy.
No, I said the opposite.
I said the opposite, you cretin.
When somebody said, let's take a photograph, he said, get the papers off the desk, you moron, because he'd been, oh my gosh, How thick are you?
Do you not speak English?
He would be working at the desk with piles of papers.
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OK.
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Let's go to Jim, California, line one.
Jen Psaki?
Jen Psaki, yes.
She should be up for an Academy Award with that act she just put on.
Or could she get an actress or an actor?
Because we gotta have a transgender award, right?
That's right.
But yeah, she's up for Best Support.
We don't know.
Don't take it for granted that she's a woman.
That's right.
Yeah, that was pretty egregious.
Yeah, she's up for best support.
I mean, that was so fake.
I couldn't believe it.
Yeah, it was disgusting.
And to say that people are being hurt when you're trying to actually protect children, it's obscene.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jim.
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Welcome to America First.
Hey, Sebastian.
The crazy thing about George Gaston is that he was run out of a rail in San Francisco.
Two successful petitions to have him recalled And that's why he left San Francisco early.
He was too liberal, even for the most liberal town in the country, San Francisco.
So how on earth was he even able to run in Los Angeles?
Well, the answer is he's getting that money from good old George Soras.
So the question is, how long Until we get Drive Gas gone out of Los Angeles and into somewhere else like, say, New York and Chicago.
Right.
They never fail, do they?
They always fail upwards, don't they, my friend?
That is the problem.
Where would he go next?
Thank you.
Thank you for your call, Joe.
We've got one call left.
I think it's Michael that I can squeeze in.
Springfield, Pennsylvania.
Michael, welcome to America First.
How you doing?
Good.
Yeah, why don't you come up with a real, work with the Trump team and come up with a real cool MAGA man slash woman trophy of the quarter.
And then Trump could pass one out every four, every month.
Hey, now you're cooking with gas.
MAGA man or MAGA gal of the quarter.
What would it look like?
Would it be like a silhouette of the president?
What do you think?
Yeah, holding flags, eagles flying.
Oh no, no, hugging the flag.
What do you think of that?
Hugging the flag, Michael.
Yeah.
I love it.
All right.
I love that idea.
I'm going to suggest it.
We're going to give you something in thanks for that suggestion.
Let me just, before we lose you, first person who should get that MAGA man or MAGA gal award of the quarter, who should that be?
That should be Sebastian Gorka.
No, no, no, that doesn't count.
We'll get somebody else.
I love it.
Stay on the line.
Let's give him a choice of whatever he wants from the Seb Gorka store.
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I'm going to play the cut, I think it's from MSNBC, where they're talking about this lawsuit trying to strike you down before the election and then I want you to react to that, okay?
Okay, I haven't heard it yet.
Okay, all right.
Well, you know what it is.
It's the usual.
And I have to ask you while I'm at it.
Did you know what they were going to say about you after you spoke at that event, at that conference?
With what's-his-face Fuentes?
Did I know about what?
How he was going to criticize you afterwards and make fun of you.
No, I didn't know anything.
I was clueless.
I don't want to talk about that.
No, but I just want to know because that guy's a bad actor and I've had my run-ins with him and he's an anti-Semite and a scumbag and I'm just, you know, your team should have warned you about that.
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I didn't know anything.
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Your president is tanking.
Everybody hates his policies.
You're not going to win on the merits of the case.
You're underwater in the polling.
What do you do?
You use lawfare.
You use law as a weapon to attack the people who will win the election and take them out before the election.
Here we have a shocking audio and video clip.
This is from MSNBC.
This is allegedly a lawyer called Ron Fine who has a plan to attack one of the most outspoken conservatives on Capitol Hill.
Cut three.
Play cut.
Well, if we prevail in this hearing on Friday, then the judge will make a formal written recommendation, which of course could be appealed, but that would say that Marjorie Taylor Greene is disqualified from public office, and then the Secretary of State would put instructions at all the polling places in her district in Georgia, saying that votes that are cast for her will not count and will be discarded.
She's off the ballot.
If you win.
Exactly.
That is the definition of lawfare.
Let's ask the person that they are targeting to respond.
Delighted that she could squeeze us in today.
She is Marjorie Taylor Greene, representing Georgia's 14th District.
Congresswoman Greene, what are you going to do?
What's your plan?
This looks like Soviet tactics.
Tell us what your scenario is.
Well, you're absolutely right.
These are some of the worst people in the country.
This is a progressive group of attorneys.
They're funded by some of the worst organizations in our country.
They hate me because I am constantly fighting against the very thing that they get their donors to donate millions of dollars so they can try to make happen things like CRT, things like wide open borders, illegals voting in our elections.
They support killing babies.
They love abortion.
They support taking away our Second Amendment rights.
These are all the things that they care about, and these are the things I fight against.
So this funded attorney group funded by the, you know, the dark money groups like George Soros, 501 C threes and foundations that shuffle money around back and forth to each other.
They actually came from their, you know, from New York city and Massachusetts, you know, they, they hate my voters.
They hate the people in my district.
So they came down and had to find voters in my district in order to get this whole conspiracy theory going and try to challenge my candidacy.
You know, candidacy qualifications are based on where do you live and how old you are.
So they're creating a lie.
Well, congratulations to them.
They found five voters out of over 700,000 people in my district.
They were able to find five.
One of the five happens to be the Democrat chair for Georgia's 14th district.
So you can already see who they had to call.
They actually had to get her to put her name on the list.
And then two of them, you know, moved to Georgia from Canada.
So you can tell these are people that don't really share our values.
But this, yeah, this is, I can't believe it's happening.
I'm pretty shocked that this judge is allowing it to happen.
But I have to say, I feel very confident because the truth is on my side and it's going to be, it's going to be very easy just to sit there and tell the truth and, and Show them that they're the ones lying.
They're the ones that are having to lie, cheat, and steal.
Because like you said, they're going to lose so badly in November.
But no judge, no bureaucrat, no radical group of attorneys should be controlling who the people in my district get to vote for.
Because that should be their freedom of speech and their choice.
They get to vote and choose who they send to Congress.
They voted for me this last time, and I have overwhelming support to win my reelection this time.
And these people have no business coming into our state, telling our people and our voters who they can and can't vote for.
Well, I hear a seriousness in your voice that I haven't heard before, and you've been on the show many times, most recently with Matt Gaetz for our America First strategy sessions.
Could this potentially, and I'm just thinking this through because this is such a dictatorial, underhanded way of trying to nullify you, you are the choice for the 14th District, could this backfire?
Could this boomerang, could this actually provide you more positive exposure and show the Democrats for who they are?
Could you actually profit politically from this dastardly scheme?
Well, I mean, I don't know if that's going to be the result.
I don't think in those terms, Seb, but you've been around these people for a long time and you know how they work.
Well, here's what's going to happen.
Their lives are going to be exposed because they have been lying about January 6th since the day it happened.
All of us know that no one planned that.
That was not coordinated.
It was a riot that happened for a few hours at the Capitol.
None of us liked it.
We've all said, how shocked and terrible we thought it was.
I mean, it was truly something we never expected and shouldn't have happened.
But we also are still in shock over the BLM riots that went on over and over through 2020.
So I think what's going to happen is people are going to find out, you know, that this is a lie, and it's going to expose who these people are, who's behind them, who funds them, because that's what I'm interested in.
You know, I'm a member of Congress, and I write legislation, and after November, Republicans will be passing bills, not Democrats.
And I'm very interested in going after and stopping the ability of these dark money groups to fund and politicize our courtrooms.
But this is dangerous, and I am serious about it because it's a precedent that is taking place, and it should not happen.
Our courtrooms are not meant to decide elections.
It's the people voting that should be deciding elections.
Absolutely.
It's not judges, it's the people.
And let's just compare the two things you mentioned.
January 6th, a protest out of hand.
Certain things we do not have answers for.
We know one thing, an American veteran, a woman, was shot to death by a police officer who paid no penalty.
She was unarmed.
On the flip side, we have an election, you mentioned the phrase dark money, where more than 400 million dollars from private sources was used to pervert that election.
We need to get to the bottom of the truth.
We need people investigating it like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Follow her right now on repmtg on Twitter and greene.house.gov and everywhere else through social.
She will fight to the bitter end.
Thank you Marjorie.
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In the 90s, the Republicans used that money, big-time money, to win the elections.
They weren't supposed to, really, because that's not political money, but it was messaging money.
A certain speaker came along and used that.
So it was a way to protect the financial assets of the rich.
The free market system was not in danger.
It wasn't a reason, it was an excuse.
But it was big money and it still is endless money.
What is she wobbling about?
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Before we get to our special one-on-one guest, let's go back to your calls, Jim Detroit, line one, welcome.
Hello, what a pleasure to speak with you, Dr. Gorka.
Most kind.
I just, yes, I just wanted to remind the audience that the 2020 election was stolen and that we need everyone, anyone to volunteer to work on the elections this cycle in their municipality, especially young, healthy people, savvy people.
If you can go out and work in the election, it's crucial because we need people that can't be simply pushed out of the observation roll.
Yeah, no, this is a crucial, crucial point.
Thank you, Jim.
We need to flood the zone.
We need to make it as difficult as possible for them to steal the election.
I would say, beyond what you said, yes, we need as many poll watchers, election officials as possible.
My wife is an election official.
We need as many patriots to be engaged, to be volunteering, to be part of the local GOP.
Don't complain and moan.
Take it over.
Volunteer.
Become a precinct captain.
Become a local part of the solution.
And, most important of all, we need as many MAGA candidates as possible.
So you should be running, not just for political office, for local positions in the school board, in the local community centers.
That's how we win.
They are community organizers.
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James Lindsay, the author of Cynical Theories, explains how the left got to where it is.
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The End Welcome, dear friends, to America First One-on-One with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump, currently a member of the Pentagon's National Security Education Board, and we are delighted.
He just told me prior to us coming on air that he's had more than 60 flights already this year, but we grabbed him!
And we chained him down and we've got him for the whole hour.
We are delighted to have with us none other than Professor James Lindsay, author of two seminal works, Cynical Theories and the latest, which is Race, Marxism, and the founder of NewDiscourses.com.
Professor, welcome back to America First One-on-One.
It's always a pleasure.
Great to be here.
So are you excited?
Are you happy now that allegedly we can travel without a mask because science?
Yeah, you know, I think that I've honestly possibly incurred a degree of brain damage from how much I've had to spend time wearing a mask on an airplane.
So it'll be nice to breathe freely on planes where I spend most of my time, it seems these days, once again.
Well, you are doing the Lord's work, traveling the country, educating people not just on the sheer insanity of what we are witnessing on the new left, what my wife calls the next-gen Marxists, but also helping us understand the roots of this all, because this isn't just a sudden result of Biden or the Squad or even Obama.
This goes back at least 80 or 90 years.
Let's look at the latest iteration and what it has led to.
This is a school teacher in America talking about what they do in the classrooms.
Hi, I'm a queer teacher and I 1000% do not support this bill.
And yes, I do know what's in it.
The bill in itself is just another way to stigmatize the LGBTQ plus community.
Kids as young as 3 and 4 are actually aware of their gender identity, even if they don't have the language for it.
Also very aware of who they like and who they don't like.
Heterosexuality is pushed on our kids on a daily basis at a very young age.
Media, through books, the first Disney movie that you saw.
To say that pre-k through 3rd grade are not ready for such topics is actually internalized homophobia and transphobia.
Kids are very much ready for these topics and are way more accepting than adults when it comes to discussing these topics.
We can talk about gender, gender assumptions, pronouns, all the things.
And it is child development appropriate and age appropriate.
It's literally created as just another means to other queer people.
Basically say that us existing is not normal.
That is a critique of the law in Florida that says you shouldn't be talking to young children, five-year-olds, six-year-olds, about sex in the classroom.
That teacher says, no, I should.
But will you unpack for us why that teacher begins by introducing themselves with the word queer.
For me, one of the most important parts of your first book, Cynical Theories, is the chapter you dedicate to this concept of queer theory.
I think for most lay people this was a word that was used to connote homosexual or gay or synonym, but it's not.
And this academic theory, if we can call it such, actually has a very, very dark objective.
So will you unpack the significance of that word in trying to understand the gaslighting occurring today?
Oh, yeah, that's a huge can of worms.
Now, speaking as a mathematician, I have to first point out that this educator says that he, she, they, whatever, is 1000% against the law, and that's not mathematically possible.
Just to frame up the educator here a little bit, but no queer theory is an extremely important concept I've been trying to tell people for about two years.
We've been focusing on critical race theory.
I've been trying to tell people queer theory is Both their Achilles heel, but it's also the gate to hell and I mean that pretty literally so queer theory is this idea that being normal and Normalcy, especially with regard to sex, gender, sexuality, also mental health and health status more generally.
That creates a power dynamic, if you want to phrase it that way, or what it works like in a Marxist sense, a form of special property, a kind of cultural capital that certain people have access to and other people are excluded from.
And so queer theory is better referred to as queer Marxism.
And the idea is that we have to take that which is considered normal and challenge it at every possible place, obviously starting with young children.
We can unpack that part of what the person in the video said as well.
But queer theory is a war on the normal.
It is, in fact, you could summarize queer theory in a single sentence, which is the abolition of the idea of anything being normal.
So it's trying to take the fact that most human beings are heterosexual, that most men are manly, most women are feminine, and to frame that up as a form of oppression, to turn it on its head and to make centered the idea that some people, or maybe a whole lot of people if they have their way, are not
Is it fair to say that it's not just a war on normal or the concept of normal, James, but it's actually a negation?
It's making normal something that doesn't exist.
That's exactly what it is.
I mean, this is exactly right.
This is queer Marxism or sex, gender, sexuality Marxism is the way to put it.
So to summarize Marx in a very kind of tight nutshell, Marx believed there was a special kind of capital, there's a special kind of property, I should say, called capital, a bourgeois private property, he called it.
And he said that certain people give themselves access to that, and they exclude everybody else from that.
And they create an ideology called capitalism that justifies why they get to do that and has various features like meritocracy, that you work for what you get, etc.
And what you see in queer theory is a complete reproduction of this, but now being within what is normal, being within what is considered to be, you know, well, not even considered to be, what just is normal and normative for human beings.
that that's a special kind of property that sets up a power dynamic, and there's an ideology called cisheteronormativity that teaches people.
That's what the teacher was referring to.
We start teaching kids heterosexuality, she said, through every Disney movie that they see, very early ages.
We're teaching them to be normal as though that that's not something that's actually happening regardless of what you teach people.
And so what you have is this idea that there's an ideology teaching people that normal is good, This is what normal is and everybody else is excluded from it.
And so just like with Marx, where the idea is to negate capital, to abolish capital is actually to negate it and turn it into something else.
That's the Marxist theory.
Here you have negating the normal by coloring your hair blue, getting weird piercings.
Acting like a buffoon, putting on hot pants and twerking in front of a fire truck during a protest.
These kinds of stupid activities, which they call the politic of parody, are direct assaults on the idea of normalcy itself, to negate it, to unmake it, and thus to center the people that are considered marginalized by the idea of normal or normalcy at all.
It's a little complicated to understand, but when you understand how Marxism sees things and you understand what their agenda is, it becomes very clear. - Doesn't it, well, it seems to me that this Marxist lens is being applied to everything, not just biology, not just history, with the 1619 not just biology, not just history, with the 1619 project, but also to mathematics.
And the overarching matrix is that whatever field it is, the people in it have to be divided into oppressors and oppressed.
Is that an oversimplification?
No, that's an accurate statement.
The leading Marxist theory of education that we all are dealing with, and very few of us here in America know his name yet, is Paulo Freire.
He was a Brazilian educator.
He focused on adult literacy education, and he actually wrote a series of books that were very influential first in Brazil and also throughout South America, but since 1985 or so have been very influential in North America as well.
His works are kind of at the center of American teaching colleges now.
So all of our kids go to Paulo Freire schools.
And when Paulo Freire viewed being literate or being educated in exactly the same way, he said, you're educating people to participate in the existing system.
Thus they reproduce the existing system.
So now what you have to do is see being educated as an elite status that people are conferring unjustly upon themselves.
So you no longer should be educating, he says, people in syllables or how to read or how to do mathematics.
You should be, in fact, giving them political education.
You should be awakening a political consciousness in them that means a Marxist awareness of their role in overthrowing the system and changing history.
And so everybody's It is being applied in everything, not just sex and gender and sexuality, not just race with race Marxism as critical race theory, not just economics to the degree that they still care about economics at all.
But also mathematics classes now have to focus on being a political lesson that uses mathematics kind of as a costume that it wears.
History is going to actually be a Marxist lesson that's using history topics to move the ball.
You'll see it also, not to divert from education, but you'll see it also in churches.
You're going to actually deliver a liberation theology sermon or whatever at the church.
church homily or whatever.
And as a matter of fact, you're now doing Marxism dressed up in a priest frock or at an evangelicals pulpit or whatever else.
It's the same thing again and again and again. - We'll discuss the other areas it has infected.
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Okay, I've asked you this before, but I have to do it again for the record across all of the stations, the 300 stations we broadcast to, the millions of listeners and viewers, because it really, to this day, I find it shocking, James, that you really, and I did this in my second book, you can really map the thinkers of the new left.
You can map the individuals who came up with these dastardly ideas.
They have names.
They have schools.
They have institutions that they penetrated.
So let's start with the basics.
Who peopled the Frankfurt School and what did they believe in?
So give us some of the big names and what they thought of Western civilization.
Okay, so The Frankfurt School, for the listeners who don't know, is the Institute for Social Research that was set up at Goethe University in Frankfurt, Germany.
That's why it's called the Frankfurt School.
Its original name was the Institute for Marxism, but its financiers, like Felix Veil, thought that that was a little bit too on the nose, and so they changed the name to the Institute for Social Research.
The kind of big players at the time would have included In the formative years before it actually came together, and he went to prison, Antonio Gramsci, the Italian Marxist who basically outlined the idea of the Long March to the Institutions, as it later got named, but he was only kind of tangential.
The other big names would have been Gustav von Schmoller, for example, and George Lukacs laying the architecture, working with Max Horkheimer, who became one of the most significant directors in the late 1920s through the 1940s.
Theodor Adorno, Herbert Marcuse.
These are major influential names and figures in 20th century Marxism.
And their goal was to reinvent Marxism to take over the Western context rather than peasant societies like Russia and China.
Yeah.
Because, and correct me if I'm getting this wrong, but people like Gramsci and others saw this success of Marxist ideology in very backward third world nations, very agrarian,
post-feudalistic ones like China in 48 and Tsarist Russia in 17 but they saw an incapacity of Marx Marx Marxian ideas to gain traction in well-developed first world nations with a strong Judeo-Christian basis.
So their idea was there isn't going to be a class consciousness suddenly erupting in a revolution, therefore we have to subvert existing institutions from the outside.
Is that a fair summary?
You've got one point off.
Otherwise, you've got a perfect summary because subverting the institutions from the outside is not correct.
It is subverting the existing institutions from the inside.
Antonio Gramsci's idea was that you need to get inside of the existing institutions, which he says have a cultural hegemony, a set of norms and values that everybody kind of follows along with.
And you have to get inside those and create a counter hegemony within the institutions.
And so the idea was to get inside the major cultural institutions, and he named religion, family, education, media, and law, to which we would definitely need to add entertainment and medicine in the modern world.
And you want to get inside those institutions and you want to change them from the inside, have a small cultural revolution in one institution after another after another with a primary emphasis on education.
And then when the culture is being produced by these institutions, when the entertainment industry is putting things out that people watch and consume, when the education industry is putting things out that people learn from, et cetera, then the culture itself can be shifted from within, and then the Western then the culture itself can be shifted from within, and then the Western nations can be subjected to
And what was their attitude to key concepts such as the truth and to the role of sex in human society? - Okay.
Okay, yeah, two things because truth is an issue that's very important to Marxists.
If you actually go to marxists.org, they have a glossary of what they mean by about every word they use.
It's a very useful resource.
And they have an entry for truth and they say where most people believe that truth is something that corresponds to reality Marxists believe that truth is a feature of a social formation in other words that it's contingent It's what people in power say truth is and so then they compare different theories of truth But in the end they say that Marxists believe that what truth is is what makes Marxism work What puts Marxism into power that is what must be true because they believe they have the true scientific study of history and reality and
And everybody else is just using ideology as a fundamental belief.
Let me just add a little footnote there.
So in George Kennan's famous long telegram about the sources of Soviet conduct, he said back then in 1946, truth in the Soviet context is that which serves the party.
That's right.
They say that themselves, proudly, because they believe that they have the only true theory of the universe and therefore Truth is whatever their theory says.
And so how do you know if it's true is if it works to advance their agenda.
That's literally the definition they give themselves for truth.
It has nothing to do with what corresponds to reality.
It's a social formation.
It's temporary.
It's whatever, whoever, you know, whoever's in power and controls the social formation gets to determine what is and is not true.
And of course, that's A recipe for totalitarianism and disaster of the sort that George Orwell warned about.
So yeah, their definition of truth is extremely self serving, we're never wrong definition.
The role of sexual behavior is a bit frightening, more frightening.
We'll talk about that in a second.
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I taught counterterrorism for many years for the Defense Department.
I got to understand a little bit about how the new left looks at sex when we examine the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist organization which is associated, which is linked to Obama through its founders and leaders like Bernadine Dawn and Bill Ayers.
They had a phrase, smash monogamy, meaning monogamy, a man and a woman together is a bad thing.
There should be, you know, infidelity or there should be no even concept of fidelity.
Will you explain the broader dark reality of how the next-gen left, the next-gen Marxists look at sex between a man and a woman?
Yeah, for sure.
And just as a kind of a pointed aside for the moment, you mentioned the weather underground.
So of course, this was led by Bill Ayers, another friend of Obama, but he also was a strong supporter of this woman most people have never heard of who implemented Common Core since we talked about education, by the name of Linda Darling Hammond.
And Linda Darling Hammond was a big friend of Obama.
She, like I said, implemented Common Core very significantly, but she was also heavily praised and supported by the Weather Underground and Bill Ayers in specific.
So these connections are very important to recognize.
As far as I bring that up, she is actually instrumental in creating and implementing what's called social emotional learning, which is how they're bringing the comprehensive sex education to the kids in schools today.
And so then you have to ask yourself, well, why are they bringing this comprehensive sex education the way that they are—the sexualizing of children, the grooming of children, both politically and sometimes, unfortunately, sexually in schools?
And the answer is that the Marxists have known that this is a It's like a nuclear bomb against the society to sexualize the children.
George Lukács, who I mentioned, the Hungarian Marxist, who was the deputy commissar of education in Bela Kun's Soviet Hungarian regime, briefly, he knew this, and he believed that if you sexualize children, what will happen is you will tear them apart from their family, because they'll tell their parents, you don't understand what it's like to be me.
tear them apart from their culture, tear them apart from their nation, and tear them apart from their religion.
They'll say that the Bible's old fashioned, for example, and that it's out of date, and that it's oppressive itself, and they'll reject religion, family, nation, and culture.
And then you can sever the new generation from the next.
Herbert Marcuse, who we mentioned, who is a mid-century The chair of the Frankfurt School, and probably the leading Marxist thinker of the 1950s and 60s, wrote a book in 1955 called Eros and Civilization, and he argues extensively, using Freudian psychology as his argument, mixed with Marxist theory, that if you liberate sexuality, then you unleash an energy for revolution, for overthrowing a society that achieves the same goals, whether it's for children or in adults.
You get people to tear away from their religion.
Get them to question the very nation and culture that they belong to and its values.
And so you can sever a generation from everything in its past by sexualizing people, especially children.
And so there's a long trajectory through the 20th century of Marxists intentionally sexualizing children and pursuing sexual liberation in order to destabilize society, in order to overthrow it.
You tie in the Weather Underground and their favorite One of their favorite educators, Linda Darling Hammond, has implemented this deeply into the social-emotional learning program that's in every single school in America.
So just to be clear here, because people, I think, are puzzled, don't understand why a second-grade teacher wants to talk about gender, sex, and transgenderism with that six-year-old.
This is because it is a wedge Talking about these issues, selling the idea that gender is fluid, is how you separate the child from the parents.
That's what we're talking about.
Correct, James?
That's right.
Parents and religion and the existing national and cultural values that have made this country great so far.
Yeah.
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James, I had a former fifth-generation educator on my show recently who's just become the president of the biggest conservative non-profit in America, the Heritage Foundation, and the former president of a Catholic college.
And I asked him, I asked Kevin Roberts, it's so exciting to see parents stand up at school board meetings, say critical race theory is racist, you're not going to sexualize my children, stop this bigotry, stop this insanity.
But what about higher ed?
What about the colleges?
What about these endowed Ivy League institutions that have gone completely woke?
I didn't rehearse the question.
I asked it live on air and he shocked me.
As a former educator, he said...
Burn it all down.
Meaning, start from scratch.
With the exception of places like Hillsdale and other institutions like Grove City, we can't save higher education because the New Left, the post-Frankford school, next-gen Marxists have taken full control.
Do you agree with that dark assessment?
Or is academe the one that you've lived in?
That you've seen injustice done to truth tellers.
Is it at all salvageable?
We are at the moment of the test for that.
I don't claim to know the answer to that question, but I lean toward burn it all down.
That it is not salvageable.
Not without rather drastic measurements being implemented, both through state governments and also at some point in a hopeful future, a federal government that can take those kinds of steps.
The way that it's going now, it is the most poisoned element of our society.
I tell people, you know, you've heard of the dead body poisoning the well.
Well, academia, the higher ed across the board and the teaching colleges in particular are in fact the dead body poisoning our society.
And so, you know, you can't resuscitate a dead body if that's what it actually is.
You just have to get it out of the well and start trying to do the best cleanup that you can.
So I'm not hopeful for academia.
I feel as though people should be kind of steering away from that and finding other options for becoming credentialed and certified to get good jobs in our society.
And then what?
We can deal with the wreckage afterwards.
Those huge endowments, we should start taxing them.
The DEI offices and administrative faculty, we should be firing them from state boards of regents and so on.
Absolute cleaning house to see if they can be saved, but I'm not hopeful.
You know my wife, Katie, we were there for the launch of your book.
She shocked me recently after the drag queen children's story hour at the local community center and library.
She said, this is nuts, this is enough, and now she's running for the board of the local community center to stop the insanity.
Do you think that is perhaps the most reliable way to stop this, to have average Americans engage in the war of ideas at the local level?
Well, at the War of Policy more than the War of Ideas, but yes, they need to get involved.
I tell people, average everyday Americans who maybe they do and maybe they don't want to run for board, what I tell people that they need to do is they need to get a handful of these materials.
For example, these books like Genderqueer and Lawn Boy that are ultimately pornographic and grooming books that are being not just implemented in schools and school libraries across America, but if you try to remove them, the left fights for these Tooth and nail, like almost absurdly, viciously to try to keep them in these libraries.
They need to get copies of these things, these materials, photographs or images of drag queen story hours and so on.
Get them in physical copy and show people these things and go around so that people who are good, sensible Americans who will exist both on the left less but They certainly exist.
And on the right, who will be appalled by this, will go run for these boards if somebody doesn't want to do it themselves.
It's absolutely going to require a complete revamping of what's going on at the level of school boards, the level of county commissions, at the level of policymaking boards for these institutions.
And it's going to take good people to step up who have better things to do, frankly, and decide that they don't have anything better to do than save our country.
We haven't even mentioned one topic which is the completely woke-ified corporate sector, Disney embracing transgenderism, the Coca-Cola's of the world funding organizations like BLM.
Are you less worried about those because the education world has that impact on the next generation or should we be as worried about the woke-ification of the for-profit sector?
I mean, I have to worry about education to a very strong degree because it's about children.
But the corporate problem is probably at least as big if not bigger.
The strategy is, of course, top-down and bottom-up.
The corporations are applying the top-down pressure, and the schools are creating the bottom-up activists.
And so both are integral pieces.
The probably bigger and more influential because of the amount of money involved is, in fact, the corporate problem.
ESG metrics that they're using now, environmental, social, and governance scores, are being used to drag people not just into weird and peculiar environmental policy and in corporate governance policy, but that S, that social, stands for social justice.
If you want to know why Disney's going woke, why they're coming out and making videos bragging about wanting to groom kids and doubling down and tripling down into that, if you're wondering why Coca-Cola doesn't care that it was exposed saying that people should be less white, And they just plow ahead.
It's not because of whether people can boycott or not.
It's because their assets are being managed by large finance companies like BlackRock and Vanguard that are now kind of on the world stage invisible.
And those people are managing them according to how much social justice, social environmental policy, and whatever their peculiar governance policy happens to be.
So you have to install their officers, their DEI people, their ESG officers, etc.
You have to do social justice and you have to adopt a green energy program or else they won't manage your assets or they'll cut you off or they'll sell their large number of shares of your stock and tank your company at the investor level.
These are the kinds of manipulations that are happening there and it's a gigantic problem.
That's the top-down power.
I saw you speak 20 feet away from me for the launch of your book.
It's the longest I've heard you extemporaneously speak before.
And I noticed something that pleased me greatly, a very dry sense of almost British humor, almost Python-esque in its appreciation of absurdity.
How important is the use of humor and satire against the woke karate?
You know, I think it's actually critical.
I think that the one thing, this is kind of a funny thing, because, you know, I study the critical theory a lot.
And I think, well, what a critical theory really, when it works, and when it actually does good in society, and it's not an actual critical theory, what it is, is it's called humor.
We don't need critical race theory, largely, because we had black comedians who broke down most of those barriers very, very effectively through the 80s and 90s.
I'm thinking of Richard Pryor, I'm thinking Yeah.
Eddie Murphy back when he used to be funny, Chris Rock before he became a sellout, etc.
And they broke down those barriers using humor because they get people to laugh at themselves for the absurdities that they've adopted with these bad ideas and ignorance and ideologies that they've taken up.
And so when you hit the woke people with humor, it allows the people who have kind of bought into it to laugh their way out of it, to realize that it's silly, it's silly, to realize that it's absurd.
And without feeling guilty or shameful or whatever, that gives them an opportunity to laugh their way out of the fact that they've supported something that's patently evil, once you recognize it for what it is.
And so it drives them crazy.
They can't stand being made fun of.
They take themselves completely seriously.
And when you make fun of how absurd it is, they know it's a gigantic weapon against them, because it gives people an off-ramp who've been supporting them kind of blindly or without realizing what they're supporting.
And it exposes them for being kind of the fools and frauds that they are All right, guys.
Sharpen your satirical sabers.
We need to deploy them in the interest of saving the truth.
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I want to end our discussion, which of course flew by far too quickly, with a little bit of homework for our millions of listeners and viewers across the country.
So, first things first, you've got to read this man's books.
Start with cynical theories, okay?
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Beyond that, Would you give our listeners a little bit of homework?
So, maybe not read Das Kapital, which is turgid and painful, maybe read the Communist Manifesto, but what else?
Maybe the essay on, what is it, repressive tolerance?
What other things should Americans read to understand how we got here?
Yeah, so I do actually encourage people very strongly to read primary sources.
I would encourage people who want to understand critical race theory to read the book called Critical Race Theory and Introduction, which was written at the high school level in 2001.
It's very accessible.
I would encourage them to pick up books in kind of the social justice education universe.
For example, Is Everyone Really Equal by Robin DiAngelo and somebody called Aslam Sensoy.
I The punchline, of course, is they say that the answer is no.
But I think that people should read those primary sources.
As far as reading things that are a little more heavy and weighty, you recommended, for example, Repressive Tolerance by Herbert Marcuse.
There's another that he wrote called An Essay on Liberation that kind of is the roadmap.
We live in those two essays.
We live in the world drawn out in those two essays.
So if you want to understand the world we live in, you should read those.
I'm trying to make it easy.
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I actually read things like Repressive Tolerance.
I've read the entire essay as a podcast series.
I actually read the essay on liberation as a podcast series.
I read through it and give you commentary and break it down so you can understand what it's saying.
Currently, I'm reading through the core books from Paulo Freire.
As podcasts, I don't read the entire chapters, but I'm going through the books and breaking down what these guys are actually saying.
So go to New Discourses, check out my podcast or pick up these essays yourself and start reading them.
I can't recommend it highly enough.
He is doing the painful work for you.
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