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March 24, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: The Left melts down over the definition of a woman.

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	- Welcome dear friends, If you were worried about a potential escalation of the war in Europe, you were justified.
	The senile old man who sadly bears the title Commander-in-Chief of the United States is at the NATO Summit in Brussels, and we will share with you the appalling soundbite at the presser, where near the end, an interviewer, a member of the press, asked the President, what would happen if Putin used chemical weapons and the doddering, stuttering old man said we would respond in kind.
	I'm not sure he understands what that means, that we would use chemical weapons against Russia, but that is what he said.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump, member of the National Security Education Board.
	I don't have time for a monologue today.
	Because we are delighted to have with us none other than Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, Colorado's third congressional district.
	Congresswoman Boebert, welcome to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, it is so great to join you today.
	So are you ready for Joe Biden to use chemical weapons against Russia?
	You know, I had heard that it was possible Joe Biden was in the hospital because he couldn't stop Putin.
	Gotta have a sense of humor in these crazy times.
	You know, it's interesting that there is no plan for this.
	My focus from the beginning is to stop funding Putin's war and make America energy independent.
	That right there is what is keeping this going.
	We're prolonging it.
	We're sending aid to Ukraine.
	We need to send humanitarian and lethal aid to them.
	But we need to stop funding the other side of the war.
	And Russia is who we are negotiating with through all of this.
	You can't even make this up in a clown world.
	So first and foremost, America has to be put first, and we need to be energy independent.
	We could literally export freedom by exporting our clean energy to Europe.
	And it's really frustrating that we won't even start there.
	In Congress, in the House, we have passed fake virtue signaling bills, fake Russian energy bans.
	But as I'm sure you know, Dr. Gorka, those energy import bans, they have waivers excluding Russian oil and gas and allow it to keep flowing.
	So it's completely bogus.
	And not only is it bogus, we were in that position just over a year ago.
	Exporting energy, a net export of energy under the Trump administration.
	And now we are in a reversed situation whereby we are shutting down our energy independence.
	Follow this lady, Rep Bobut, on Twitter.
	I reached out to you today because I saw on your official Twitter feed that you have garnered 17 of your colleagues and signed a letter for an investigation into Biden's nominee for the Supreme Court.
	Explain why you've done this and why you find this nominee so disturbing.
	This is incredibly disturbing.
	It's disturbing that the Senate may confirm someone who has been incredibly soft on child pornography users.
	In what world is the judge that we should be elevating to the highest court in the land, this person?
	For every single child pornography case that came before her, she ruled below the sentencing guidelines and below the government suggested sentence.
	And no, not just a little below Dr. Borka, Judge Brown Jackson, she gave the defendants an average 47.2% less sentence than what the prosecutors recommended.
	For example, one sexual predator, Judge Brown Jackson's sentence had incredibly graphic child pornography.
	The sentencing guidelines said he should go to prison for 97 to 121 months.
	The liberal prosecutor said the predator should go to jail for 24 months.
	Then Judge Brown gave him just three months.
	That's a couple of Netflix shows, and he's out.
	It's really just unacceptable, and it makes you absolutely question her judgment.
	Yeah, it's so, so strange that she seems to sympathize with pedophiles, with child pornographers at the same time that she doesn't know how to define the word woman or when life starts.
	I have to ask you, this is the Senate's jobs, the advice and consent, but given what they did to President Trump's nominees, some people are asking tough questions and God bless, you know, Martha Blackburn for what she did.
	But why in general are so many of your GOP colleagues playing by the Marquis of Queensbury rules?
	Why are they approaching this nominee with kid gloves?
	Isn't it time to play hardball, Congresswoman?
	It absolutely is.
	And, you know, we were talking about her judgment and just how it's completely unacceptable and makes you want to question her judgment.
	And really speaking about how can she not be able to define what a woman is?
	It was my understanding that she was nominated for this position because she is a black woman.
	And now she doesn't know how to define what a woman is.
	Dr. Gorda, I have a GED.
	I'm not a biologist, but I could still tell you what a woman is.
	And isn't it funny, during the Kavanaugh hearing, we were told, believe all women.
	And then we had Amy Coney Barrett, and they were like, well, maybe some women.
	And now, we're being told, well, I don't even know what a woman is.
	All of this is completely baffling that we are living in a world like this and the GOP needs to go at this extremely hard.
	Explain how you can handle issues regarding Title IX and women's class actions if she can't even define what a woman is.
	I also have a problem with how she was appointed.
	I mean, this is a really big deal.
	This is not an issue with Judge Jackson, but really it's an issue with Joe Biden.
	He says she's the most qualified, but we'll never know that because Biden refused to interview all judges that weren't black females and all for this position.
	And I think that that is absolutely racist at its core.
	It's sexist and it's absolutely not how we should be choosing justices for the Supreme Court.
	The sad reality is that this was a diversity pick.
	No, it was absolutely.
	Congresswoman Bobut, please, everybody, follow also her private account, Lauren Bobut on Twitter.
	You are a member of this new breed of citizen politician.
	You're a citizen first, a politician second.
	You represent America first.
	You represent MAGA.
	I'm going to ask you the question I always ask representatives of the real Freedom-fighting caucus on Capitol Hill.
	What is the current power relationship?
	Who's winning in the swamp?
	Is it the good guys, MAGA America First, or is it the rhino swamp creatures?
	How does that competition stand right now?
	Well, Dr. Gorka, I've traveled almost 3,000 miles in my district just this past week, and I've been encouraging everyone that it may look like these swamp creatures are winning right now.
	It may look like defeat is knocking on every door.
	Certainly, when you're paying for the fuel in your vehicle, I'm wondering if Biden's going to send us out a $600 gas card.
	Uh, you know, for, for those of us that were working throughout all of this, uh, just kidding.
	I'm not, I'm not advocating for a different kind of socialism, but, uh, with all of this, uh, all of these crises, the energy crises, the Southern border crisis, uh, that's taking place, Americans being punished for a Fauci funded Chinese virus for more than two years.
	Uh, still, I don't believe that we are one piece of legislation away from fixing it.
	It is going to take, Good hearted American people standing up and doing what's right, working together in unity and pushing forward.
	And that's what we're seeing.
	We're seeing moms and dads show up to school board meetings who had never attended one before.
	And sure, this regime feels threatened by them and are calling them domestic terrorists for even voicing their opinions on what their children are being taught in school.
	But it is absolutely imperative that we are in this battle right now, lifting up our voices, I've been meditating on Exodus 14, and it's really interesting.
	Moses, he stood at the Red Sea with the Israelites, and the Egyptians were coming up behind them.
	Pharaoh's army was coming up behind all of them, ready to...
	When they went forward, that's when things changed.
	We're out of time.
	Red Sea.
	And when Moses cried out to God, you know, like many of us do, God, when are you going to do something?
	He didn't say, sorry, I forgot I was supposed to do something here.
	He looked at Moses and he said, tell the people to go forward.
	And beautiful, beautiful message.
	When they went forward, that's when things changed.
	We're out of time.
	Follow her, Congresswoman Lauren Boebert.
	Music by Ben Thede
	Good.
	All right.
	So, um, we're gonna talk to, uh, Charlie Kirk at, in 2B.
	Oh, okay.
	Uh, phone?
	Yep.
	Okay.
	I'll need the phone number for that when we got a moment.
	I'll send it to you.
	Awesome.
	And then, um, hang on a second.
	Yeah.
	I have the Biden responded kind cut.
	I'm still working on the Charlottesville cut.
	Wanna hear it real quick?
	Hang on a second.
	Okay.
	And move Stacy to C. C, okay.
	And then we're gonna do James O'Keefe in D. Okay, so let's see.
	Kirk in 2B.
	Yep.
	Stacey C. Yep.
	And then, uh, I'm sorry, who did we just say?
	Oh, James O'Keefe.
	James O'Keefe, indeed.
	Awesome.
	Alright.
	I don't need numbers for that.
	Oh, he's not on Twitter.
	That's right, James O'Keefe got banned from Twitter, didn't he?
	Yep.
	Alright, so what do we need to talk about, Boyle?
	Whatever you want.
	Alright.
	Can we talk about Mo Brooks?
	What is going on there?
	Do you have visibility on that?
	Ouch.
	I mean, ugh.
	Womp womp.
	I don't know man, like, it's just, it's so sad because Mo Brooks is actually a great congressman but it's just, it's almost like he'd rather be right than win.
	You know, and it's like, dude, just get out of your own way and run your race, but I just don't think, I don't know if it's going to happen with now Trump pulled the endorsement.
	Well, when I saw the polls, even before Trump pulled his endorsement, he was down to like third in the primary polling behind Brit and the country, right?
	Yeah, I think he was maybe a little bit stronger than some of those polls, but we're making it look, but it's, this didn't help, so.
	I don't know, we'll see what happens.
	I love Mo Brooks, I think he's a great congressman, but... What have you been working on?
	I'm working on some big things regarding Missouri, so I don't think Karl Rove is going to have a good night, so I'll just put it that way.
	Okay, good.
	Which cut did you say is ready from Biden?
	This one.
	And to clarify on chemical weapons.
	Could, if chemical weapons were used... I'm still working on the Charlottesville one.
	And then the House GOP retreat is down here in Northeast Florida this week.
	So I did a thing with McCarthy yesterday and Stefanik.
	The Stefanik thing will come out tomorrow or over the weekend.
	Yep.
	So some good stuff there.
	All right.
	I'm going to use cut 10 from yesterday.
	Cut 10 yesterday.
	You got it.
	All right.
	50 seconds, Matt.
	Standby.
	Yep.
	All right.
	Alex sounds like he has a cold.
	He had me on the show this morning.
	He sounded really stuffed up.
	I haven't talked to Alex today, so I don't know.
	But I will talk to him in a little bit.
	So I don't know.
	Tell him I hope he feels better.
	I will.
	Okay, we've got Israel here.
	Mm-hmm.
	All right.
	All right.
	20 seconds.
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	Some clips, you just got a file in the evergreens because they give you a glimpse to the heart of what we are fighting for.
	This is from yesterday's Senate nomination hearing with Judge Brown.
	Play cut.
	Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
	Can I provide a definition?
	Yeah.
	I can't.
	You can't?
	Not in this context.
	I'm not a biologist.
	So you believe the meaning of the word woman is so unclear and controversial that you can't give me a definition?
	What does it all mean?
	How is that possible?
	Let's talk to the Washington Bureau Chief for Breitbart.com, the most influential conservative website on the planet.
	Matt Boyle, are you there?
	I'm here, Dr. Gorica.
	Always a pleasure.
	Don't you agree that those are the moments When you see into the dark, dark heart of the Democrats, when somebody who has been chosen because she's a black woman is so a hostage to identity politics, CRT and everything else, that she can't say what a woman is?
	Look, this is proof that she's not qualified to serve on the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	This is not some, like, woke exercise here.
	A judge has to make determinations on questions regarding all sorts of different policy matters.
	And, you know, if there's a discrimination case based on somebody's sex or gender or something like that, I mean, you need to be able to legally define what a woman is and what a man is.
	You know, the certain race thing.
	I mean, these are things that require legal definition.
	So, I mean, it's almost like those old memes, you have one job, right?
	Like, you have one job, Kentonji Brown Jackson.
	It's to be able to define such things so that way you can go and make legal determinations.
	If she can't define what a – by the way, is she a woman?
	Well, that's why she was chosen, Matt.
	Well, apparently, but then what's the definition of that?
	Right?
	Like, so I don't understand why she can't provide the legal definition of what she believes, or what she believes the legal definition of a woman to be.
	I think that's a very fair question from Senator Blackburn.
	And by the way, good for Senator Blackburn for actually doing this.
	We are seeing some of the Senate Republicans actually fight on this, right?
	Like, so Blackburn, Cotton, Cruz, they've all been great during these hearings.
	Hawley, of course.
	And by the way, that's the sign of the changing Republican Party.
	All of these senators have been elected in recent years.
	So every time every one of these primaries comes up, it's another opportunity to bring in more guys like them and girls like them and less of the old crustaceans like the losers like Mitch McConnell.
	But the point is that the party is changing and it's moving in the right direction.
	So good for the Republican senators, for the ones that are actually fighting this.
	But there are a handful.
	Look, the big question here.
	is, uh, can you get to 51 no votes on Contagi Brown Jackson?
	And right now we don't have 50 Republican no votes.
	All right.
	So there's the way the Senate is broke down as 50, 50, uh, those 50 Republicans, 50 Democrats.
	So you don't have a prayer of a chance of stopping Contagi Brown Jackson's domination.
	If all 50 Republicans can't come out in unison after a moment like that, or some of these other things that have come out over the course of the week, like the child porn stuff and like all these other things and the, The weakness on sentencing with regard to, I mean, the pedophiles must be out there.
	I mean, this is what Don Jr.
	came out and said.
	The pedophiles must be salivating at the opportunity to have someone like this on the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	But the point here is that at the end of the day, if you can't get 50 Republicans together, then how are you going to roll a Democrat?
	Because that's the math, right?
	It's simple vote math.
	You need 51 no votes in the U.S.
	Senate to stop this crazy psycho from getting onto the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	And right now that doesn't exist.
	Where is Mitt Romney?
	Where is Susan Collins?
	Where is Lisa Murkowski?
	Until we have all of them clearly stating where they are, and then all the rest of the Republican senators, then that gives people like Manchin and Sinema, the Democrats you would figure, or other Democrats that are maybe very weak.
	I mean, Cathy Cortez Masto is running for re-election in Nevada.
	That's a very close race.
	She's probably losing, right?
	The election were today in Nevada, I think Adam Laxhaw would defeat Cathy Cortez Masso in Nevada.
	And she's supposedly a woman.
	I mean, one would think that she would want to know what the definition of a woman is from somebody that she intends to maybe vote for for the U.S.
	Supreme Court.
	So I don't know until such time as we get an answer to that.
	By the way, the other big story about Kentucky Brown Jackson and a number of pieces about this.
	This school that she's on the board of in Washington, D.C.
	She's on the board of this school that is peddling radical critical race theory and transgender indoctrination upon children in our nation's capital.
	This is disgusting.
	And frankly, I think that they need to bring Contagi Brown Jackson back for another series of hearings and another series of questions from senators before senators vote on this.
	But again, until such time as we have a real Republican leader in the United States Senate, and we don't have one right now, Mitch McConnell is not a real Republican leader.
	He's a loser and a swamp captain, right?
	Like Mitch McConnell is not interested in actually leading this thing.
	And you need a Republican leader that's going to whip the votes and force these losers like Romney, Collins, Murkowski, etc.
	to actually state their position on this.
	And then once you have it nailed down that you have 50 Republican votes, then you can start rolling the Democrats.
	So this is my question.
	We've only got a couple of minutes with you, Matt.
	This should be the test.
	I mean, after she said, I don't know what a woman is, after she said, I don't know when life begins, after she has been demonstrably Soft on pedophiles and child pornographers.
	There is no Republican who should vote to confirm her.
	Agreed?
	There's zero excuse for any Republican who would vote for this woman.
	Zero excuse for a confirmation.
	And by the way, there's frankly zero excuse for any Democrat.
	Any Democrat out there who claims to support women's rights cannot do so after they vote for this person.
	Cathy Cortez Masto in Nevada.
	Maggie Hassan in New Hampshire.
	They're both running for re-election this year.
	They are women Democrat senators.
	Do they want to know what the definition of a woman is?
	What about the people that work for them?
	That they represent, etc.
	All these different lefty groups and Democrat senators out there and whatnot, they have to – they can't justify this.
	They literally can't justify it.
	So again, I think that this is going to cause a major problem for them if they vote for this nominee, and I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't widespread Democrat concern with this nomination.
	I might have to borrow that line of reasoning.
	I might have to tweet it out in the break.
	what together, then why would anyone expect the Democrats to do what they're going to do?
	That's the problem.
	It's such a strong point.
	I might have to borrow that line of reasoning.
	I might have to tweet it out in the break.
	If you're a feminist, if you're about women's rights, then what do you say to a nominee for the highest court in the land that doesn't even know what a woman is?
	He's just coming off the GOP retreat in Florida.
	He's going to have lots of great stories coming out of Breitbart.com.
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	Check it every morning, every evening.
	He's Matt Boyle, Washington Bureau Chief.
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	The End Mic's on.
	Oh, good.
	Okay, um... Gravy is still processing the Shardsville clip.
	Mic's on.
	Mic's on.
	Oh, good.
	Okay.
	Gravian is still processing the Charlottesville clip.
	Clips from YouTube take longer to cut for some reason, but I'll work on getting that ready shortly.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Titles.
	Titles.
	Not one.
	Matt, not one.
	One Republican should vote for Ketanji Brown.
	Okay.
	And then one a... Bovert.
	for Katanji Brown.
	And then 1A.
	Over.
	Yeah.
	Katanji Brown's pro-pedos record.
	I'm sorry, Pro-Pedo's?
	Pro-Pedo Record.
	Pro-Pedo Record, okay.
	Also need a title for the Waller pre-record we did yesterday.
	Cutting through... Cutting through...
	Disinformation on Ukraine.
	Disinformation on Ukraine.
	And then for today, for Homan... Yes!
	I almost forgot.
	Homan.
	Homan.
	That's a lot of potential.
	Yeah, there's that one shocking statistic.
	What was that?
	Oh, like the number of kidnappings?
	No, the number of deaths.
	The highest number of deaths.
	It's hard to put that in a title.
	Why Biden really opened the border.
	Why Biden really opened the border.
	Okay, good stuff.
	I just got the number you texted me, so I will update.
	That's for O'Keefe.
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	Yeah, yeah, she calls it everything.
	The regulars come to know our... They come to know our voices, so when they hear you, they're like, oh, this is Jeff?
	Yeah, no, that'll work.
	Any cuts you want to use?
	Do you have the second one?
	Charles, not yet.
	It's still processing.
	Alright, I'll probably use the NATO one.
	I'll tee it up there.
	Got it.
	It's 13 seconds long.
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	Got to share with you what Biden said at the NATO summit in Brussels just about an hour ago.
	But we have so many callers on the line.
	We're going to have to listen to you first because you are the most important part of the show.
	Lou in Georgia, welcome to America First.
	Oh, thank you so much, Sebastian.
	You were talking about when Marsha Blackburn asked her to define the word woman and the judge said, I can't.
	And I think it was later on that she was referring to her first year and experience at Harvard And she specifically said, quote, In a black woman I did not know, unquote.
	I think she said coming up to her.
	Isn't that perjury?
	Because how could she know that it was a black woman that came up to her?
	She doesn't even know what a woman is.
	That's great.
	No, I love that, Lou.
	Look, she's perjured herself every time she's answered any question about critical race theory or anything else.
	This is a woman who is lying every time she's asked a serious question.
	She knows what a woman is.
	Of course she knows what a woman is.
	She's under oath in a Senate confirmation hearing.
	She lied under oath.
	She committed perjury.
	Great, great point.
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	Let's go to a good buddy, Leo Leonardo, New Jersey.
	Welcome, buddy.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka, how are you?
	Good.
	The next question for the judge is, do you know if you're a woman?
	No, you know what the next question is?
	Chris Plant said this on his show.
	Okay, how many genders are there, Judge Brown?
	That would have stumped her.
	I don't know.
	She doesn't judge.
	I'm not a biologist.
	I don't know.
	Well, I guess she doesn't know it's raining because she's not a meteorologist either, or she doesn't know what a cat is because she's not a veterinarian, Leo.
	I called about the Hungarian Compassionate Heart.
	The former governor of New York, Republican Governor George Pataki, he set up through the George Pataki Center 300,000 children, refugees coming in from the Ukraine.
	So I just I know Tunnel to the Towers and I love Mike Landell, but I just came across this charity that I'm supporting.
	So I just wanted to play.
	It is going to be children that are coming into Hungary soon.
	So if anybody wants to look that up, it's on George Pataki Center.
	You could find that.
	Thank you, Leo.
	We're going to give all of our listeners an opportunity to help the Ukrainian refugees in the next segment.
	Of course, George Pataki is the correct pronunciation.
	It means of the stream, of the river, is of Hungarian extraction.
	So good for him in supporting the Ukrainians, because yes, It's tragic.
	Watching those images.
	Women.
	Children.
	Pregnant.
	That image that you may have seen, the footage of the pregnant woman on a stretcher being taken out of the maternity clinic in Mariupol after the shelling.
	We can now confirm that she died of the injuries sustained in that shelling.
	Which means her child died as well.
	We can support them.
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	We can't go and fight for them.
	Ukrainians have killed more than 15,000 invading Russians already.
	But we should, we must help the refugees, the women and children.
	This is a nation of 44 million, and only 3 million have so far escaped.
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	Yes, it is.
	Mic's on.
	Wanna hear it?
	Yep.
	I wasn't gonna run again.
	And I mean that sincerely.
	I had no intention of running for president again.
	And until I saw those folks coming out of the fields in Virginia carrying torches and carrying Nazi banners and literally singing the same vile Stop it.
	Can you call Charlie Kirk?
	Me?
	Oh, oh.
	Yeah, just call him.
	say and um and then when the gentleman you mentioned was asked what he thought and a young woman was killed a protester and he asked was asked what he thought stop it can you call charlie kirk me oh yeah just call him okay
	two minutes foreign to an automated voice messaging system Forwarded to voicemail.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	It's fine.
	Yeah, you just don't need the message.
	90 seconds.
	I always got-- I was so sick of the Charlottesville one.
	That was one of the worst.
	Well, and the fact that he's doing it in a foreign venue, you just, it's rule number one.
	Doesn't matter whether you're a Democrat or Republican.
	You don't stand at a NATO summit doing domestic political punching points.
	No.
	Okay, I'm sending you the number right now, Eric.
	Okay.
	He's got another number.
	Sure thing.
	I will be ready for it.
	50 seconds.
	Okay, got it.
	Yes.
	Okay, good.
	You can dial him now.
	Alright.
	Okay, forty seconds.
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	I'm a bit of a social media addict.
	I try to be as effective as I can.
	There's one person whose tweets I always read because he's really, you know, he's got it down.
	No images, spaced out lines.
	It's to the point.
	It's incisive.
	But not for the last two days.
	Why is that?
	Let's talk to the man who created and runs perhaps one of the most influential and important organizations in America.
	It's Turning Point USA and he is Charlie Kirk.
	Charlie, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	It's been weird not being able to tweet.
	I gotta be honest.
	It's weird.
	It's weird for us not being able to read your tweets.
	So, Charlie, tell our millions of listeners what happened to you.
	What was your sin which made the overlords of Silicon Valley came down and unperson you?
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, it's pretty, pretty remarkable.
	You know, we spent some time on this tweet because we knew it was going to be sensitive, but we wanted to, we wanted to not, we didn't want to pander.
	At the same time, we didn't want to try to force ourselves off the platform.
	That would have been silly.
	So we did a tweet about this Levine character who's in the Biden regime, Rachel Levine, otherwise known as Richard Levine.
	So we did this tweet, very factual, about how Richard Levine, that was the name that this person used to have, was married and had kids and all this.
	So they kicked us off.
	Um, because we used what's called dead naming, which I didn't even know about, which is, uh, super triggering for the alphabet moth.
	Yeah.
	So the dead name is using the pre transgender real name.
	The person was Chris christened with that was your sin certificate name.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So I don't even know that was a thing.
	And so basically here's what we have to decide to do.
	And we've already made our decision.
	is we can delete the tweet, and then we get our Twitter account back, which we refuse to do, because we did nothing wrong.
	This is the Maoist demand.
	You must conform.
	This is what happened to the Babylon Bee.
	You must genuflect at the altar of political correctness before you are allowed to speak again, Charlie.
	That's right.
	And so we refuse to do that, because it's less about access to our Twitter account, and it's more about them trying to make us take a knee in some form of tech submission.
	It's not going to happen.
	And I've been really touched.
	Dan Bongino tweeted out our tweet today, word for word.
	We'll see if he gets kicked off.
	Trucker Carlson did the same.
	He's been suspended.
	So it seems that people are starting to kind of stand up for against Twitter.
	I don't think Twitter is nearly as powerful as it used to be at all.
	We know Troop Social, we have Getter, there's Parler, there's all these other computers, which is great.
	Um, which has really, I think, changed the landscape.
	But what's really happening here is not about social media.
	They're trying to send a message to every other young person.
	Whoever the person, all your listeners in your audience said, they want to say, oh, see what we do to Charlie Kirk when he dares to go after the trans mafia?
	You better not either.
	And so they're trying to almost have a public tech show trial, Soviet style, to try to send a message to millions of other people that you better sit down, shut up and submit.
	So we have all the people who listen to us, who watch us on Rumble.
	What is your message to them?
	I love that idea.
	I'm going to do it as well, that Tucker and Dan are doing, just to push back.
	You've got an amazing social media team, Adam and everybody else at Turning Point.
	You're going to fight this good fight.
	What do you say to those who are listening, who also have social media accounts?
	Can we make Twitter eventually irrelevant?
	And if that's the case, what do we do in the meantime?
	Yeah, I mean, we have to go to these other platforms.
	I'm glad you're on Rumble, and we are too.
	We're really building out that, you know, that platform.
	Twitter is largely irrelevant, and it's becoming increasingly so.
	It's really just kind of a bunch of New York Times and Huffington Post reporters kind of recirculating the same information over and over again.
	It used to be exciting, you remember?
	Oh, yeah.
	It was awesome.
	It was controversial.
	It was edgy.
	And now it's just boring and banal and kind of just really Normal, and not normal in a bad way.
	It's just kind of... Well, it's just groupthink.
	It's just an echo chamber.
	Yeah, exactly right.
	That's right.
	So what people can do, and they have to just make their own decision if they're willing to lose their Twitter account, we have been, obviously.
	And that's what is kind of interesting about our stories.
	We could get our Twitter account back, but I refuse to push that red delete button.
	I'm not going to do it.
	So it's in their hands.
	If they want to, if Twitter is willing to give us our account back without us actually pressing the red button, Then fine, great.
	If not, then it's your move.
	Babylon Bee's making the exact same choice, and I think that's the way we push back against it.
	And then also, this is just on a more micro level, your audience, I think, needs to realize this is going to happen at your job, it's going to happen, hopefully not at your church, but I wouldn't be surprised, where they're going to catch you in some form of error of What the alphabet mafia wants you to believe and do?
	And are you gonna submit if you've done nothing wrong?
	Look, if I did something wrong, I'd be the first one to apologize.
	I'm not above making mistakes.
	I've made plenty of them.
	Plenty in the last week.
	This wasn't a mistake, though.
	That's the problem.
	I refuse to apologize for telling the truth.
	Support this man and his organization, TPUSA.com, one of the most important organizations in America.
	Charlie Kirk, we've got 60 seconds left.
	How are things going at Turning Point?
	Anything exciting you can announce for the upcoming year?
	We're doing very well.
	We just announced our Student Action Summit coming up in July, which you'll be speaking at, Dr. Gorka.
	We have our Young Women's Leadership Summit coming up in early June, 3,000-plus young women.
	And unlike the Supreme Court or the judge that once been a Supreme Court, we actually can tell you what a woman is.
	You can meet 3,000 of them in Dallas in early June.
	And we also have our campus tour coming up all across the country.
	I'll be going to Arkansas, Auburn, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, and in a span of 72 hours, Berkeley, Boulder, and UC Fullerton.
	So, we're going to go right into the belly of the beast.
	We're doing what, you know, people expect of us, which is a playoff offense, and you're a big part of it, Dr. Gorka.
	I know one thing.
	I want his frequent flyer account.
	tpusa.com.
	You can't follow him on Twitter, but follow him everywhere else and support this organization.
	Can't wait to see you at that fabulous event.
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	All right.
	This came into the Rumble chat towards the very end of yesterday's show, but we had another RumbleRants donation, $1 from BabsDelight, who says, quote, you shouldn't spend time on Ketanji Jackson.
	It won't make a difference in the balance of the Supreme Court, end quote.
	I know it won't.
	That's not the point.
	The point is to use the nomination hearing to illustrate the depth of corruption and perversity in the Democrat Party.
	I know she's gonna get approved.
	I mean, short of some act of God and Romney finding a spine, she's gonna get confirmed.
	Yeah, unfortunately.
	I love it when people presuppose to know your motivations.
	You know?
	It's like, no, no, that's not why I'm talking about it.
	It's always one lane of thought.
	There's no context.
	And it's always univalent.
	There's one reason.
	Is it bad that we confirm somebody who can't answer what a woman is?
	I think that's just bad on its face.
	I think we should talk about that.
	If we didn't talk about it, wouldn't it be weird?
	There's a war in Ukraine.
	No, let's not talk about it.
	That's not in the United States.
	Well, the nomination alone is bad news because, again, Biden nominated her purely because she's black and she's a woman.
	Right.
	Just the same way he picked Kamala because she was black and a woman.
	It's right in the wheelhouse.
	It's right in the wheelhouse.
	All right.
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	OK.
	And we're going to talk to Antoinette.
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	Thank you.
	This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	Stacey Washington, Stacey on the right, James O'Keefe from Project Veritas in the next hour, then one-on-one with Mike Waller, a man who's actually met Vladimir Putin.
	Don't miss any of it.
	Also, if you're looking for...
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	Jackson, and she sure hell knows she's a woman, she acts like she's so condescending, and she's got the job already in her mind.
	And these progressives, these left-wing people, are trying not only to undo society, but undo us as women, that you can't define a woman, the issues that she's going to have to deal with being on the Supreme Court, and life begins at conception.
	That's when unique genetic material is created.
	It's science and she doesn't know.
	We've got lots of calls left.
	Give us an update Antoinette.
	Thursday, we have some good news.
	We're thinking the Santa Ana Planned Parenthood.
	We're getting some other COVID people looking to make sure, but the Planned Parenthood was closed today on Thursdays.
	They've torn up the road a couple times in front of us.
	Sunday is becoming incredible.
	You know, normally on Sunday on 700 North Tustin Avenue, we're there from 10 to noon.
	We've got people coming 6 in the morning till almost 3 in the afternoon.
	Sundays is exciting at the Planned Parenthood in Orange and Tustin.
	So those are the good things.
	Our rally on April 30th is coming along, so I'll let you go to the other calls, but You know what?
	I am a woman.
	I have two X chromosomes and I love it.
	Thank you, Dr. G. We love it too.
	She always brings great energy.
	We love it.
	And our regular Thursday calls from Antoinette.
	She actually rang on Tuesday as well one week.
	We got a double whammy there.
	We don't have time for any more calls, so John, Leah, Glenn, stay there.
	Stay there.
	I'll do something a bit rad.
	I'll take some calls at the top of the hour, in the second hour.
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	He's actually met Vladimir Putin.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Back after these messages.
	I don't know.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Mike's back on.
	Um...
	Title for Kirk.
	I'm not surrendering to Twitter.
	Good stuff.
	Been a while since we've had him on.
	Yeah.
	His travel schedule's just... It's all bad, oh my goodness.
	Nuts.
	Yeah, he's gotta fly like one airline to get all those... No, he often uses private.
	Oh, okay.
	I was going to say, if I flew on, say, American as much as he does, oh my goodness gracious.
	Bless you.
	Ready?
	Alright.
	35 seconds.
	Okay.
	Want to come in with anything?
	Oh, come in with Cut 1.
	Cut 1, let's do.
	You got it.
	20 seconds.
	Okay, I'll come in with Eye of the Tiger.
	Nice.
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	From the ReliefFactor.com studios, this is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	you Kelsey Bailey has been feeding the animals at the Wilderness Trail Zoo in Bertrand for the past five years and has never seen prices this high.
	The animals go through a lot of food every week.
	We feed the meat.
	It's about 600 pounds we go through a week and that's just a week.
	So we go through it pretty quick.
	We have, you know, two big tigers and we have lynx and all kinds of different little cats that eat, you know, quite a bit of meat a day.
	Kelsey says they have people who donate food, but those skyrocketing costs are making it more difficult for them to supply the meat these animals need.
	According to CNBC, the average cost of meat is up 20% from this time last year.
	She's asking for help from the people of Mid-Michigan.
	Thank you for that choice of music, John Nicey.
	Don't I have the title?
	600 pounds of meat a week for the Michigan Zoo, and they can't afford it.
	Why?
	Because of the man in the White House who thankfully, I think, is in Brussels far, far away from us.
	But even there, what a disaster.
	What should we start with first?
	Let's start with him breaking the cardinal rule.
	of international appearances.
	Doesn't matter what party you're from, whether you're Democrat, whether you're Republican, whether you're Ralph Nader, it doesn't matter.
	As soon as you step off US territory, shut up about domestic politics.
	You never use an international event, a forum with other nations to score domestic points against your opponent.
	It's just not Done.
	But he couldn't stop himself today when he lied again about President Trump at the NATO summit in Belgium.
	Play cut.
	I wasn't going to run again.
	And I mean that sincerely.
	I had no intention of running for president again.
	And until I saw those folks coming out of the fields in Virginia carrying torches and carrying Nazi banners and literally singing the same vile Rhyme that they used in Germany in the early 20s or 30s, I should say.
	And then when the gentleman you mentioned was asked what he thought, and a young woman was killed, a protester, and he was asked what he thought, he said, they're very good people on both sides.
	And that's when I decided I wasn't going to be quiet any longer.
	Oh, how brave you are.
	The man whose name should not be mentioned.
	You're a liar.
	The president said the Nazis must be excoriated.
	They must be rejected from decent society.
	But no, you'll stand there at an international forum and lie to other nations.
	You are a disgrace.
	Not to the office of president, to decency in general as a grown man.
	However, it gets worse.
	And I was watching this in real time just a couple of hours ago.
	So it gives this disastrous press conference at the NATO summit with America allegedly leading the alliance, not under his presidency.
	And a reasonable question is asked with regards to Russia escalating to weapons of mass destruction.
	Play cut.
	And to clarify on chemical weapons, if chemical weapons were used in Ukraine, would that trigger a military response from NATO?
	It would trigger a response in kind.
	So for those of you who are listening, you don't see what he did.
	I mean, this is a question you expect, yes?
	I mean, you are the Commander-in-Chief, you've got 6,000 nuclear warheads at your disposal.
	Expect the reporter to maybe ask you about WMD escalation.
	And she asked the question and he shuts his eyes.
	He doesn't know what to say.
	He's mumbling, fumbling.
	And then he says, if Putin uses chemical weapons, we will respond in kind.
	What does that mean?
	If you're not senile, it means we will use chemical weapons as well.
	Which is illegal, by the way, since 1972, since the Biological and Chemical Toxins Treaty was signed by America and 109 other nations.
	This senile cretin has just committed us to use chemical weapons against Russia!
	And he probably doesn't even know he did it.
	That's probably the worst part of it all.
	I could spend the whole rest of the show on this, but we have a call board that is absolutely full.
	People want to talk about what's happening on Capitol Hill with Judge Brown.
	Let's go.
	John waiting very patiently.
	San Diego, line one.
	Sebastian, I got a comment and then a question.
	First, I don't know why Ketanji even mentioned biologists because no one on the left believes gender has anything to do with biology.
	Oh, genius!
	John, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	That is so good.
	Hang on.
	Say that again to all our listeners across the country.
	Ketanji Brown shouldn't have mentioned needing to be a biologist to define women because, John?
	Because no one on the left believes gender has anything to do with biology.
	I had a question.
	That is why we have the best listeners and callers in America.
	Okay, this guy gets – let's give him the I'm a manga man mug that's so-called.
	Stay on the line.
	What else did you have?
	You had a question as well, John?
	Yeah, I had a question.
	I heard Biden's latest speech of lies this morning.
	How many times has he visited active combat zones in his life?
	Well, he said that all he's done in the last 15 years is another part of the speech.
	All he's done in the last 15 years is visit combat zones, which is weird because I don't remember him visiting Portland or Seattle.
	Well, I googled Biden combat zones and nothing came up.
	What?
	The great Google machine said nothing?
	So I think that was another one of his lies.
	All right, stay on the line.
	We need to reward you.
	That clip from John, we're going to make that a video.
	We're going to put that out on Twitter and Truth Social and everywhere.
	Because just nailed it!
	Nailed Ketanji Brown.
	Genius, genius, genius.
	OK, Leila has been waiting very patiently.
	California, line two.
	Oh, yes.
	Hello.
	Hey.
	Hello.
	Hello, Sebastian.
	It's an honor to speak with you.
	What is this lovely accent?
	Where are you from, Leila?
	It's a big honor to speak with you.
	Thank you so much.
	That's very kind of you.
	Where are you from?
	I love your accent.
	I'm from France originally also.
	What is your question?
	That was great.
	Merci, Sharon.
	Ça fait rien, merci.
	What is your question?
	Sébastien, first of all, I will take my time, one minute, to explain my road, my life.
	Please!
	I was born in Russia.
	My mother is Russian.
	My father is from Algeria.
	I was born in Russia.
	I grew up in Algeria.
	After that, I studied medicine for four years.
	I studied medicine and then I lived in Germany, in Spain, in Italy, and the last it was in France.
	So I speak seven languages and my seventh, which is my English, I'm proving thanks to you, So be gentle with me.
	I try, I do my best.
	No, no, no help needed, Leila.
	No help needed.
	What is your, what is your, you have an amazing life journey.
	What is your comment or question?
	My comment or question?
	I'm married with amazing American man, which is French originally too.
	And I'm here since almost three years.
	And I'm very proud.
	The first thing I've done when I came here is read the Constitution.
	I saw that many Americans don't read it, but I read it.
	I have it all the time in my pocket, and I'm very proud to be here in the United States.
	In this amazing country.
	I can tell that all the countries I live in, they're all amazing with big cultures and I'm proud to be here.
	But anyway, my question is the following.
	I'm a legal immigrant, okay?
	Since three years, until now, I don't have my green card.
	And my question is that I cannot understand that in the United States, I can't legally Well, what do you mean?
	We've only got a minute left.
	I consulted, they told me that you can do anything and the law is not with me.
	And I am legal immigrant.
	And now they...
	What do you mean?
	We've only got a minute left.
	What do you mean you can't defend yourself, Leila?
	The thing is that the administration for...
	I don't have my green card until now.
	I know, I know.
	What do you mean you can't defend yourself?
	You've got to be quick.
	We've got 30 seconds.
	Okay, okay, okay.
	The lawyers told me that you can't do anything, that we must only wait for the administration.
	I don't understand.
	What do you mean defend yourself?
	By a gun?
	situation and my question how I can defend myself.
	- What do you mean?
	I don't understand.
	What do you mean defend yourself?
	Buy a gun?
	What do you mean?
	- No, no, defend myself with the law.
	With the law, how is possible that I can be in such kind situation?
	- All right, I need to continue the conversation We're going to do it in the break.
	Stay on the line because I'm still not sure what it is you are incapable of doing as a legal immigrant to the United States.
	So stay on the line.
	More of your calls here on America First.
	Make sure you are subscribed to the podcast.
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	in this next segment.
	Okay.
	Food for the poor in Israel.
	Any cuts you have preference for?
	I might play the Kennedy one from yesterday first.
	And you wanted to make a little clip out of that caller John in San Diego?
	Yes.
	And I want Cassia to post it everywhere.
	So you want me to post our rumble?
	Well, however he does it, I don't know whether you need a roll video or an embed, so just ask John how he wants it, because it's just a minute long.
	Okay.
	I doubt he wants a rumble link.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	90 seconds.
	Okay, and then C will have Stacy and D will have O'Keefe.
	Mm-hmm.
	Gotcha.
	Okay.
	Oh, does Casio know those guests?
	I told him, yes.
	I updated him.
	Okay.
	And then yeah, just is real here.
	Right.
	How interesting.
	Strange.
	I mean, look, she's in California, so it could be just crappy lawyers.
	Yeah.
	Gotta love the pocket constitution, though.
	That's tremendous.
	That's tremendous.
	And then in the break, we'll do this read.
	Okay.
	Sounds good.
	That one.
	Okay, thank you.
	30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	Standby.
	Clip City here.
	Alright.
	Ezra here.
	20 seconds.
	Standby.
	The End
	All right, we kept Layla on the line.
	Lovely lady.
	We're going to try and help her out because something stinks.
	Maybe some exploitative lawyers out in California.
	But we're here to help.
	And you still are the most important part of the show.
	That's why I'm inviting all of you.
	Wow, could you imagine if 3 million people came with us?
	That would be epic!
	How many people in Israel?
	5 million.
	Let's get 3 million of our listeners to come with us for our Stand With Israel tour.
	Join me and the fabulous Dinesh D'Souza and his lovely wife Debbie for the trip of a lifetime 10 days later this year, November 30th to December 9th.
	Come on, that'd be epic!
	Let's do it!
	We're going to go to all the key places you've read about in the Bible.
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	Okay, got to go back to the evergreen.
	It was Senator Kennedy.
	We played it yesterday.
	It's just too good.
	This is the woman, yes, she is a woman, that Biden wants to put onto the highest court on the land.
	She's pretty stupid.
	When does life begin, in your opinion?
	Senator, I don't No.
	Ma'am?
	I don't know.
	You have a belief?
	I have personal religious and otherwise beliefs that have nothing to do with the law in terms of when life begins.
	Do you have a personal belief though about when life begins?
	I have a religious view.
	Religious belief?
	That I set aside when I am ruling on cases.
	Okay.
	When does When does equal protection of the laws attach to a human being?
	Well, Senator, I believe that the Supreme Court, actually, I actually don't know the answer to that question.
	I'm sorry.
	All right.
	Just that last part there.
	I believe the Supreme Court... I don't know.
	That should kind of disqualify you.
	You're about to quote the Supreme Court that you want to work on.
	But you don't know.
	I mean, she doesn't know when life begins, which is pretty crucial if we are guaranteed life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
	And she doesn't know what a woman is.
	But lest you think this is one crazy radical who worked on the Obama campaign, which she did.
	Yeah, she's a federal judge, and she worked on the Obama campaign.
	No, no, no, no.
	Slow, slow down.
	I was on British radio earlier today.
	Love, love Mike Graham.
	It's talk radio and he told me about his colleague Julia Hartley Brewer, great radio broadcaster who's been on our show before, who asked the same question.
	Get this.
	To the Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer.
	Okay, this is Rishi Sunak.
	Rishi is his name.
	I didn't make it up.
	Rishi Sunak, who is the equivalent of the Commerce Secretary for the Conservative Cabinet of Boris Johnson.
	Cut five.
	I just want to ask you a question which seems to be very complicated for a lot of politicians these days.
	Not just on the Labour side, because Keir Starmer seems to find this a difficult question to answer.
	Rishi Sunak, what is a woman?
	Well, I thought the Prime Minister answered this brilliantly in Prime Minister's Question Time.
	In Prime Minister's Questions this week, and I fully agree with him.
	And so what is your definition of a woman?
	As I said, I would exactly agree with what the Prime Minister said in Prime Minister's Question Time.
	I thought he answered the question very well.
	An adult human female?
	Sorry, as you ladies have said, the Prime Minister answered the question brilliantly.
	He thought he answered it brilliantly.
	So what were the words that he said that you agree with, Chancellor?
	Well, I think if you look at the full thing that he said on Wednesday, he answered the question brilliantly and I would agree with every word that he said.
	We're not going to get a proper answer from you, are we?
	It's a really simple question.
	I thought he put it very well and I think, you know, actually you get his language and I'd happily associate myself with every word that he said.
	I thought he put it very well.
	Why can't the Chancellor of the Exchequer Say adult, female, human.
	He said, oh well my boss Boris, he understands, he knows.
	What did Boris Johnson say?
	I've got it right here in front of me.
	This is what the prime minister said when asked what a woman is.
	He said, we must answer this question with extreme sensitivity, tact, love and care.
	What?
	Hang on.
	It's biology.
	What has tact and sensitivity got to do with it?
	He went on to say, we must recognize that when people want to make a transition in their lives, they should be treated with the maximum possible generosity and respect.
	Uh-huh.
	What, like dyeing your hair?
	We're talking about what is a woman!
	And he closed with this.
	This is the leader.
	This is the man who had the position Churchill had.
	But I do want to say that I think when it comes to distinguishing between a man and a woman, that the basic facts of biology remain overwhelmingly important.
	Not decisive, just kind of, uh, maybe relevant.
	Guys, this is insanity on both sides of the aisle.
	Okay, let's go to Jimmy, Los Angeles, line three.
	Jimmy!
	Now's the time to talk.
	You're on live radio.
	I don't want to sound more like a Biden, because it's creepy.
	Jimmy, five.
	Four.
	Three.
	Two.
	One.
	Okay, Jimmy, goodbye.
	Let's listen to Jimmy Kimmel, who says that he has an opinion on the question of asking somebody what a woman is.
	Cut to.
	And he really wants to know what a woman is, too.
	You couldn't define what a woman is.
	That you are not a biologist, which I think you're the only Supreme Court nominee in history who's been unable to answer The only woman in history who's been asked that disgusting question.
	How is it disgusting?
	Should be very simple.
	What is a woman?
	Female of the human species.
	Has ovaries.
	How about that?
	That's a pretty easy one.
	Is a female human mammal.
	Adult.
	Oh, sorry.
	Yes.
	Let's add in the adult, because it's not a girl.
	How is that disgusting, Jimmy Kimmel?
	What's disgusting is an ideology that undermines women.
	Because that's what we are witnessing.
	When you say you can't answer the question of what a woman is, What happens to women's rights?
	They just kind of disappear.
	Because I could declare myself a woman.
	Because that's what... What's Leah Thompson's real name?
	Fred?
	Whatever it is.
	That's what he did.
	He still has male genitalia.
	So, what's disgusting?
	Not answering the question?
	Or pretending you're a woman when you're a man and crushing the dreams of real women?
	I think we know Jimmy Kimmel.
	Prime Minister.
	When does life start?
	Uh, exactly three months after conception.
	Not a day earlier or a second later, you know?
	What's a woman?
	Anyone who has long hair.
	Anyone who has long hair and wears pink clothing is a woman.
	Leah Thomas' original name was Will Thomas.
	Oh, that's it.
	Willie!
	Willie!
	Name's Willie!
	Got rid of one of the Willies.
	462nd.
	Alright.
	I like Fred better.
	I think Fred's more punchy.
	Yes, Fred.
	Okay, ready?
	And who says a girl can't be named Fred?
	This is ridiculous.
	Okay, here.
	One sec. One sec.
	One sec.
	One sec.
	Have they sent it?
	I believe so.
	I believe they sent it.
	No, I think they were going to send it.
	Is it in the last hour?
	Because I checked like 30 minutes ago.
	Yes.
	There's a new read, but I can't print it.
	Was I CC'd?
	You were not.
	Not in this email.
	I will forward it to you.
	Okay, I forwarded it to you.
	Okay, O'Keefe's gonna be five minutes late.
	Okay.
	So maybe hold him over for E at that point?
	Uh, maybe.
	We'll see how late he is.
	Okay.
	Alright, is Stacy up?
	He is dialing her now.
	Okay.
	It's ringing, I assume.
	Hi, Stacy.
	Hello?
	And we've got...
	Hi, I'm with the America First.
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	Oh, food.
	Okay, good.
	Alright.
	45 seconds.
	She's on the line real quick.
	Stacey?
	Hey, hi, Sebastian.
	We've got 30 seconds.
	You reached out to us.
	Was there some...
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	I believe I was on a panel with her just last night on Newsmax on the Sean Spicy Show.
	And we're delighted to have her on my show today.
	She's Stacey Washington, aka Stacey on the Right.
	Stacey, welcome to America First!
	Hey, thanks for having me on, Seb.
	You're one of my favorites, and I've interviewed your wife on my show, and now I'm on your show, so the circle is complete.
	Well, you've wasted time with this show because you've spoken to the really dangerous Gawker, so well done.
	But now you're on with me.
	You've got a new book.
	I love the title.
	Explain the title of your new book, Eternally Cancel Proof.
	Okay, so, as you know, because people have shot the arrows at you so many times and tried to cancel you, And President Trump was, the attempt to cancel him was pretty pretty dastardly, removing him from social media to which he replied by starting his own platform.
	In today's culture, cancellation is pretty much something you should expect, especially if you're in the public eye, but also for regular people.
	We've seen Brendan Eich of Mozilla canceled.
	We've seen Phil Robertson of Duck Commander canceled.
	And so everywhere we look, we see people kind of Making a decision.
	Am I going to speak out or am I going to kind of shrink back because I'm worried about being canceled?
	And my book is meant to empower Christians and people on the political right, people in the middle, people who care about truth, people who care about politics, people who care about faith, people who care about kids and public education and immigration and all of the issues facing us to not shrink back from the fear of being canceled.
	Instead, to stand up for this great American experiment we are also blessed to be a part of.
	And I use scripture because our founders used it to justify the positions.
	I compare the two party platforms and I tell the biblical truth about them.
	Obviously, one of them is far and away better than the other at representing the position of faith and high morality.
	And I do all of that in a book that's nine chapters long.
	It's a week read.
	If you're like you take seven days to read it, if you're kind of someone who inches and pinches, if you burn through books like I do, you're going to get it done in two or three days and you're going to be so informed and empowered.
	It's positive.
	You'll laugh a little bit, but you're going to learn things in there.
	I have facts and research and it's well annotated, 152 end notes for you to be able to double check and verify what I put in the book and learn more.
	I'm empowering you to head out there, pick up your sword and start defending America and then taking over because, Seb, too many morons, idiots, nincompoops and ne'er-do-wells are in charge of our taxes and our schools and our children and our military.
	And we need to take those spaces back.
	All right.
	We need her back for a whole hour.
	Let's do that.
	Follow her, Stacey, on the right on Twitter.
	Listen to her on XM Sirius.
	Inches and pinches.
	I haven't heard that before.
	But she used Afraid.
	Nah, it'd do well and I love it.
	We've got literally 30 seconds, woman.
	And I know you know you're a woman.
	Tell us, give us a message to our millions of listeners in 30 seconds, why they need to speak out now, Stacey.
	Speak out, because if you don't, your children won't be able to.
	Buy my book on Amazon.
	It's a number one bestseller now, and I hope that you will hear me again with Seb soon.
	Thank you, Seb.
	We will make that happen.
	She is the co-chair of Project 21 News.
	Get the book.
	It is eternally cancel-proof.
	Love it, love it, love it.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Okay, so, um, do you want to peek behind the curtain of the Kremlin?
	Do you want to understand what's really going on?
	There is an individual called Alexander Dugin, who is allegedly the geopolitical horse whisperer for the Putin regime, the man whose writings allegedly inform Putin.
	I found a video of him.
	Analyzing the war in Ukraine, where he uses an American statesman, Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former National Security Advisor, to explain what Putin's really doing and what his motivation is.
	So this is from Putin's brain, Alexander Dugin.
	Play cut.
	The direct words of Zbigniew Brzezinski, with whom I met, There you have it, guys.
	Washington.
	And that these words were written in his book, Grand Chessboard.
	Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become once more the empire.
	With Ukraine inside of Russian zone of control, it will become empire once more.
	There you have it, guys.
	Enough said.
	When Putin's eminence gris says, well, you know, like that guy Zbigniew said, without Ukraine, Russia cannot become an empire once more.
	And that's why he needs it.
	Because he wants to be the new emperor.
	We gotta post that.
	That's absolutely superb.
	Gotta make a note of that.
	Let's go back to the insanity of what's happening here in America.
	If you thought it wasn't bad enough when it comes to not knowing that she's a woman or what a woman is or when life begins or why paedophilic pornography is not such a bad thing.
	She plays word games with criminals.
	This is audio cut one from the Senate hearing.
	When you accuse somebody of a crime, are you calling them a criminal?
	Oh, Senator, I haven't accused anybody of a crime.
	That's not my question.
	When, in common understanding and in plain English, If you accuse someone of a crime, are you accusing them of being a criminal?
	I... It depends on the context.
	It depends on what else you say about them.
	It depends on the circumstances.
	It depends on the circumstances?
	Yes.
	So you put this in the same category as defining what a biological woman is?
	No, I'm just... You're really not sure?
	I didn't say I wasn't sure.
	I said it depends on the circumstances.
	So you are sure?
	No, I said it depends on the circumstances that you're positing as to whether or not you're calling someone a criminal.
	I just don't think that's credible, Judge.
	She's a judge already.
	That's the shocking thing.
	She's already a federal judge.
	And unless something drastic happens, unless a Democrat finds a spine or a soul, she'll be on the court for the next, what, 40 years?
	She's 51 years old.
	She could be there for decades, for generations.
	But it's all down to racism, right?
	According to Joy Reid, the homophobe.
	Cut three!
	And the outrage is real.
	And a lot of it was about the blatant disrespect.
	I tweeted that they were treating her like a black shopper that they were following through the store.
	Just the ultimate disrespect for her as a human being, as a judge, the fact that her family was there.
	All because in Lindsey Graham's view, apparently this whole hearing was payback for Kavanaugh.
	That's stunning.
	That's stunning.
	told him to sexually violate his high school friend or this girl in college and get accused of it credibly.
	That is not the fault of Kataji Brown Jackson.
	But apparently, according to Lindsey Graham, she needs to pay for that.
	That's stunning.
	That's stunning.
	We had that cut to share the just like following a black shopper at a store.
	But the more stunning part of that is nobody told Kavanaugh he had to sexually assault the women. - Amen.
	You mean the women he didn't sexually assault.
	You mean the fantasy of Blasey Ford, who couldn't even remember where she met Justice Kavanaugh.
	Oh, that's Reed, by the way.
	She's a homophobe.
	How's that FBI investigation going of the cyber hacking of the homophobic comments on your blog, Joy Reid?
	Here's another fake Republican.
	Joe Scarborough explaining why we are where we are today.
	Cut four.
	Hey, Rev, can we just talk?
	Can you just give us some perspective on what we've seen this week?
	It's been a very difficult five years.
	You've had somebody in the White House who's been openly hostile and used race from 2017 to the beginning of 2021.
	17 to the beginning of 2021.
	You have had others who have openly embraced white supremacy.
	The dog whistles have not have been put away and now a lot of fog horns.
	Yeah, five years of racism.
	But from which side, I wonder, is the racism coming from?
	Because it's not coming from conservatives.
	We're not the ones spreading critical race theory that says you have characteristics which are immutable that come from your skin color.
	If you're black, you're a victim.
	If you're white, you're an oppressor.
	That's bigotry.
	And I love that little rev thing.
	What?
	Reverend?
	Al Sharpton is rev?
	I mean, that's what I do in front of him to make fun of him if he were in the same room as me.
	And he's his guest on Scarborough's show and he calls him Rev.
	Okay, we are finally managing to connect.
	We're going to have James O'Keefe with us on the next segment.
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	It's not just the president, President Trump.
	It is people who are doing real journalism, who are investigating the swamp, who are in the sights of the intelligence community and federal law enforcement.
	The latest massive scandal to erupt is against Project Veritas and we are delighted to have James O'Keefe with us on the line.
	James, welcome to America First.
	We've only got a couple of minutes.
	Tell us what you found out this week with regards to the targeting of you and your employees.
	Well, Microsoft Corporation legal documents show that the Department of Justice was spying on us and hiding it from a federal judge.
	They got secret warrants.
	The Department of Justice got warrants against Project Veritas, obtained all of our emails from Microsoft, and then put a gag order on Microsoft, which was just lifted this month.
	We found out about this.
	As you all may or may not know, the FBI raided my apartment back in November.
	This was about Joe Biden's daughter's diary.
	We looked into it.
	We didn't publish the diary.
	FBI raids my place.
	Judge in New York signs what's called a special master, a filter team because we're journalists and he cited the First Amendment.
	But the government continued to spy on me and hide it from the judge and this is a really big deal and the ACLU defended us yesterday.
	What were you accused of?
	What crime did you commit, James?
	That's a great question.
	Uh, transporting documents across state lines and these sort of ridiculous, absurd things that they would never charge any journalist.
	By the way, I have not been charged with a crime.
	We have not been charged, but they cited those things on the warrant, on the search warrant.
	And then for these secret warrants, they cited things like stalking and blackmail, which weren't even on the search warrant at my apartment.
	Have you been charged with blackmail, James?
	No.
	No.
	That was even dropped from their own search warrant.
	We don't know because they sealed the affidavit.
	We don't know what they told these magistrate judges.
	And we don't know if what they told them was true or just made up.
	This is outrageous.
	We need you back to discuss this in more detail.
	In the meantime, James, we're up against the clock.
	How can people support you and Project Veritas?
	And thank you for... I'm sorry I was late into the show.
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	Next up, Michael J. Waller, a man who's actually met Putin and who's fought communists in Nicaragua.
	Back here on the Salem Network in a moment.
	The Salem Network in a moment.
	The Salem Network in a moment.
	This is one of the things that's so weird, is that they were very disparaging of Ukraine, and they were talking about the massive corruption of Ukraine, and how horrible it was over there, and now, all of a sudden, they're looking at it like they're heroes.
	Yeah.
	It's the same exact people.
	Yeah.
	This is what's confusing.
	This is how the West was covering Ukraine before the wars.
	Welcome to Ukraine, the most corrupt nation in Europe.
	That's Vox.
	A new Europe.
	Ukrainian president rule becomes increasingly corrupt and authoritarian.
	Ukrainian President Zelensky deepens alliance with the far right.
	And this is one of the things that, you know, we're hearing from people on both sides that they have a Nazi problem over there.
	There's a lot of Nazis involved in Ukraine.
	And there was something that I saw on Facebook where Facebook allowed, now I don't know who, this is what's so confusing about what they call the fog of war.
	It's not necessarily really the fog of war, it's the fog of the distribution of information.
	The fog of the distribution of information.
	Poor Joey Joe Rogan is confused.
	He has every right to be, but we have to help him.
	Why?
	He's got 8 million followers alone on Twitter and more on YouTube and elsewhere.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump, member of the National Security Education Board today, and this is America First one-on-one with a very special guest.
	Probably one of the most qualified in this stinking putrid city to talk about what is happening in the Kremlin today and whether or not this is the new Cold War.
	He is Michael Waller.
	He is Senior Analyst for Strategy at the Center for Security Policy, author of Secret Empire, the KGB in Russia Today.
	Mike, welcome to America First one-on-one.
	It's great to be with you, Seb.
	All right, let's start at the big picture stuff.
	We've got to deal with the conspiracy theories, the tinfoil hattery, including on our side, sadly, for conservatives.
	But OK, let's start with you.
	You were doing some interesting things during the real Cold War in the 1980s.
	Tell our millions of listeners across the planet who Mike Waller is and what's he done?
	Oh, well, it started out with President Reagan.
	I was a college kid in Army ROTC, and the Army wasn't doing anything.
	So I quit and joined the Contras in Nicaragua.
	How does a kid join the Contras?
	Wait, did you go to the Contra recruiting office in your hometown?
	No, it didn't happen.
	It was actually President Reagan's staff and Faith Whittlesey.
	You remember Faith?
	Yes, of course!
	So how did you know them?
	How did you know the administration?
	So she was... Morton Blackwell?
	Yes, Leadership Institute.
	So I was a skinny intern with a lot of hair back then and a Senate intern and Morton Blackwell worked in that office and he said, hey, come do something called CPAC.
	CPAC 81.
	Wow.
	And then he disappeared right after Reagan was elected, went on the transition team, and so I kept up with him as a youth activist.
	And this is a question where you have people go to high places, like in the White House, and they bring young people along with them to recruit cadre.
	And that's how I made the connections to go.
	So how old were you?
	21.
	And why were you such a hardcore anti-communist age 21 Mike Waller?
	Because I was an environmental activist in high school against the nuclear power plant and then I was dressed down in a self-criticism meeting where I was told this is not about the environment this is about overthrowing American capital.
	Oh hang on so there was like a Maoist self-critique session with your buddies and then you saw the light that has nothing to do with Gaia and Mother Earth?
	No, it was professionals.
	This is northern New England, and I was just 15 years old, and these were professionals from California who came in.
	We were just kids.
	We just cared about not dumping boiling water from a reactor core into the ocean where we'd go fishing with our grandpa.
	And that's what I was interested in.
	I didn't know anything about this other stuff.
	And then they tried to rip me apart for not being a communist, and this is how I should be.
	I'm not going to do this stuff.
	So that's when I realized what subversion is.
	As a kid, I wasn't even old enough to drive.
	Okay, and so you see the light very, very early on.
	Then that flips you to the other side.
	You realize communism is the threat.
	Tell us what you did in the august, beautiful Reagan years we miss so much.
	As much as you can!
	Well, we do miss them.
	It was a great time, and he was an inspiring leader, and we had a fight, a national fight, against the Soviet enemy in Moscow and everything it stood for as the Soviet Union and communism.
	So we wanted to fight them, and he needed young people to be in part of that fight.
	So I wanted to go to Afghanistan, and then Faith Whittlesey at the White House said, no, you speak Spanish.
	Why don't you go to Central America?
	And I went as a student journalist and then ended up getting in situations where I actually spent off and on the next six years with the Nicaraguan resistance and then with the army of El Salvador against the communist guerrillas there.
	So I saw the fight against communism as an insurgent and then as a counter-insurgent.
	We could talk about this for hours, you know, both of us so much children of the Cold War.
	Just give us that little, you know, the elevator pitch for those who didn't do what you did or who weren't the children of people who were incarcerated in communist prisons like I am.
	Talk to us about the nature of that war, how Reagan was fighting a swamp even then, and the importance of not just the kinetic, but the importance of really the ideological component of that conflict.
	Yeah, well, it was the ideological component that was the hardest, because you pretty much had somewhat bipartisan support for modernizing our nuclear weapons systems.
	You had, well, senators like Joe Biden then, 100% against any kind of missile defense so that we could shoot down Soviet missiles.
	Biden spent half his Senate career making sure we never had a missile defense, and now he's on the edge of World War III today as president.
	But that was the subversive ideological side.
	So in the course of youth activism, met up with a guy, you remember Herb Romerstein?
	He had been a communist as a teenager, and then he went to the House Un-American Activities Committee as a staffer, and then the Senate Intelligence Committee where we met, and then this was all the time that Soviet active measures was becoming known.
	Okay, stop there.
	That was going to be my next question.
	So we're going to mention, we're going to drop a lot of big names from the Cold War, real heroes, some of them red diaper babies, but who saw the light.
	Talk to us about this concept of active measures, because this is something little understood, especially how we responded to it with the Active Measures Working Group.
	So explain the concept of active measures and how the Reagan administration attacked it.
	Yeah.
	Active measures was a Soviet term of art.
	Like the word disinformation was a Soviet term of art.
	Desinformazione.
	Right.
	It didn't just mean fake info, it was a whole operative word.
	And it's used interchangeably now by people who don't really know what it means.
	So active measures was the subversive side of warfare that ranged from lies, half-truths, propaganda, suggestion, recruitment of agents of influence, all the way up to guerrilla warfare and assassination all the way up to guerrilla warfare and assassination even.
	But they would use guerrilla warfare and assassination mainly for psychological and propaganda purposes to demoralize the Western democracies and especially us.
	And to divide us Americans from one another.
	And to confuse as well.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	And that was the hardest part because these things just might be different interpretations of facts or different sets of facts.
	And so how could you know what's true and what's not?
	Everything's grey, don't you know, Michael?
	It's all grey.
	There is no good and bad, guys.
	And if you would not be so reactionary, then we might let you get published in our Washington Post off-ed page.
	And get invited to the right cocktail parties.
	So how did that change under Reagan?
	Talk to us about the Active Measures Working Group.
	What was the real novelty of how that administration took on the ideological tradecraft threat of the Soviet Union?
	Sure.
	Well, it was the FBI's job then, as now, to defend the country against foreign propaganda.
	FBI never liked that job.
	They weren't good at it.
	No, no, they weren't.
	And the old guard was gone.
	And when Hoover ran it, actually, he did a really good job and he unified the country at it.
	But since then, they didn't.
	So everything they did was classified, even if it didn't need to be.
	CIA, same thing.
	It was all classified.
	Reagan forced it to become unclassified and made it public.
	And both the FBI and CIA were kicking and screaming.
	They wanted nothing to do with any of this.
	This is the Active Measures Working Group.
	So, yeah.
	So he set up the Active Measures Working Group to combat Soviet active measures.
	This was the time when the KGB chairman, Yuri Andropov, took over the Soviet Communist Party, ran it right in the first part of Reagan's term, and then had a – really, Russian disinformation today is nothing compared to what it was in the 1980s.
	It's really bush league compared to at that time.
	It was world class back then.
	So the Active Measures Working Group was an interagency group run out of the White House by President Reagan's personal staff.
	So it forced the State Department and the Commerce Department and the Treasury and CIA and Defense Department and others to work together as a working group to develop a strategy to expose Soviet active measures.
	To hold them accountable for it, to make the world aware of it, and then to fight back against it.
	Right, and not in the black, not in the covert domain, but to publicly say, oh that story about Americans inventing AIDS?
	Guess what?
	That was birthed in Africa when a Soviet quote-unquote diplomat whispered it into the ear of an African journalist.
	It's all a lie to educate the world to the fact that this is propaganda.
	I could do this for hours.
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	And you've got to check out his seminal work, Secret Empire, the KGB in Russia today.
	Let's start there, Mike.
	We'll talk about the insane conspiracy theories, but let's start with the facts.
	Who is Vladimir Putin?
	What did he do in the 1980s?
	And you've met the man, correct?
	You refused to shake his hand, but you met him.
	That's right.
	A long time ago.
	Yeah.
	Well, Putin is just your run-of-the-mill KGB lieutenant colonel.
	He never made it to full colonel.
	And a pretty garbage one, because if you're a good KGB operative, where do you go?
	Washington?
	You go to London?
	Or you go to Paris?
	Or West Berlin?
	Not Dresden!
	That's how bad he was!
	Yeah, and he wasn't even a foreign intelligence officer.
	So when people call him a spymaster, they don't know what they're talking about, because he was never a spymaster.
	No, he was politically made one later by Yeltsin, but that's another story after he'd been potsing around as deputy mayor.
	And responsible for running all the organized crime rackets that were legalized under Mayor Sobchak in St.
	Petersburg.
	So that was Putin's portfolio, really running the thug operations for the city.
	And the idea that he's some champion of the West or he's suddenly a protector of Christianity, Mike?
	No, it's all his persona.
	It's to clothe himself in Russian nationalism because historically the Russian Orthodox Church was tied with the Tsars and the Russian state.
	There's no separation of church and state in Russian, guys.
	You have to understand.
	Very different from here.
	You have to kiss the ring of the patriarch if you want to be the president.
	Literally do.
	No, I'm not joking.
	So yeah, literally.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	So, and if you go into the Kremlin, by the way, it's beautiful.
	It's full of churches.
	It's like, imagine the White House grounds being full of churches and chapels.
	I mean, don't want to make the comparison.
	But it's a pretty cool place to visit.
	But you're steeped in this wherever you go.
	Not even the communists took that away.
	So he's an unreconstituted, mid-range, pretty, poor-performing, half-bird colonel in the KGB.
	What is he trying to do since he became president, since the quote-unquote Chechen bombing of the apartment blocks?
	This is a man who said several times on camera the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century was the loss of the Soviet Union.
	So what is motivating him today?
	What is the end state, Mike Waller?
	His first end state was making money for his cronies and for the economic machine, the gangster capitalism that built up the Russian state.
	His talent came in because Yeltsin put him in charge to run the secret police.
	Yeltsin never dismantled the old KGB.
	No, it just got two new names.
	KGB became SVR and FSB.
	Right, so the foreign intelligence, the spies were SVR.
	Internal security secret police was FSB and then there were some other branches that had other names but they all have the same ethos and they they all mark their founding to the day the Bolsheviks founded it in December 1917 so so that first and foremost Vladimir Putin is a Czechist Explain what a Chekist is.
	Cheka was the abbreviation for the all-Russian committee to counter counter-revolution and sabotage.
	It was Cheka.
	And if you were a member of that elite fraternity, you were a Chekist, part of the Chekisti.
	And he still calls himself a Chekisti and he still celebrates December 20th as Chekisti Day.
	It's a holiday for him.
	None of that history has been renounced.
	Oh no, it's repeated every year.
	It's part and parcel of these entities and of this man.
	So making himself rich, because he is the richest man in the world, I mean that is a statement of fact.
	Maintaining the inheritance of the Cheka, the organization that was the secret police of the Soviet Union.
	And then when you look at the last 20 years, him as president, is he recreating the Soviet Union?
	He doesn't want the stands because he's got far too many Muslims already.
	What is his goal geopolitically in the last few years?
	He has a doctrine and it's changed over time.
	That's not to restore the Soviet Union as it was.
	It's to restore the old 19th century Russian Empire.
	what he calls historic Russia.
	So if you look at the map of what he means, it's a specific term.
	That means not just most of the former Soviet Union, it means Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Poland.
	- Yeah.
	- That means NATO countries.
	- Right.
	- So Ukraine is just a piece of what he wants.
	- It's the stop. - And he's been open about this even in the past few weeks.
	- Now that speech he gave prior to the invasion, where he talked about Ukraine isn't a real country, has no legitimacy.
	He has given speeches of that nature about the Baltic states and Poland.
	Publicly.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he's clear about it.
	Dmitry Medvedev, his former prime minister, who's now deputy chairman of the National Security Council.
	Putin's the chairman.
	He's off to the side because he's a hopeless alcoholic now, but he is the one who's allowed to write crazy narratives that really presage what Putin's going to do next.
	Medvedev is writing those crazy speeches?
	Yeah.
	Not the speeches, but his own essays.
	So he had one up on Telegram.
	the other day, Medvedev, saying, questioning whether Poland really should exist and whether Poland's real.
	So you know what these guys are thinking.
	Putin could silence whoever he wishes to.
	And strangely, for those who think that this is an individual doing four-dimensional chess, he is a classic Soviet actor that he is reactive, meaning he will go as far as he can until somebody stops him.
	The old bayonet in the belly analogy.
	Until he feels steel, he's going to keep on pushing.
	Right.
	That's what he's doing right now.
	He's testing.
	Correct, Mike?
	Right.
	So with Donald Trump, I mean, I've got to say, Trump didn't have the best strategy toward Russia.
	And he was pounded down for the fake Russian collusion narrative.
	So he was caught off balance.
	But Putin never messed with Donald Trump.
	Not even after we killed 200 of his mercenaries in Syria, which is shocking.
	He didn't even mention it.
	He didn't complain.
	He didn't file a diplomatic protest.
	He's like, well, okay.
	Those guys are out of their way, so what's next?
	So you can push the guy around easily.
	He's used to getting beaten up, which is why he's such a violent person anyway.
	He was picked on as a child.
	I interviewed three people who knew him as a teenager.
	He was part of a street gang that would pick on effeminate boys and rape them.
	Wow.
	And that's why when he learned English, learned German, studied law, to become a KGB foreign intelligence officer, they accepted him into the KGB, but then when they did his deep background investigation, they said, no way.
	With this background, with your street gang activity, you're going to get blackmailed by the West, and they'll turn somebody like you.
	Right.
	But you'll make a great internal security officer to repress people.
	So we're going to train you in that, and then you're going to go supervise the Stasi in East Germany.
	He makes you a good bully, I guess.
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	Okay, Mike, we've known each other for eons, probably millennia, and I've got you in the studio because you have been quite superlative on that cesspit that is Twitter.
	And I'm just going to read a couple of the tweets out and have you unpack why you posted them.
	And the first, I'm going to go in reverse order.
	You post an article from War on the Rocks, concerning the first time Russia accused the United States of bio-warfare and you retweeted this story so talk to us about this this bio labs in the Ukraine that is spinning up even conservative heads where they whereby they're saying well I mean Putin's just defending himself from us Yeah, it's crazy because these programs have been in place since the Soviet collapse.
	Well, who built those labs, Mike?
	Let's start with that.
	The Soviets built them.
	The Soviet military built them.
	The KGB built some of them.
	And so the purpose of the US going in to fund the lab activity initially was Let's take control of these.
	So Ukraine inherited whatever Soviet property.
	When it gave its nukes back, it didn't give the bio labs back.
	Right.
	So it would make sense for us to go, hey, A, secure the stuff that's there and B, doesn't it make sense to find out what the Soviets were doing in those labs?
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	And then to develop antidotes to what they were doing.
	But they weren't necessarily bioweapons labs.
	So when you say biolab, you know, that's any high school in America.
	That's any hospital.
	They all have biolabs.
	So it sounds really sinister that there are all these biolabs, which is how the Russians built their propaganda on it.
	But because it's a Biden-funded thing that Victoria Nuland, the number two at the State Department, flubbed up on when she answered a question of Senator Rubio, Now it's all sinister and now all the conservatives are suddenly experts on Ukrainian bio labs saying we all know it's the Biden administration with Zelensky with some secret bio warfare plot.
	Right.
	Which happens to be the Russian propaganda line.
	Which is why you'd be talking about it in open session in Congress.
	Right.
	Because if it's such a thing you definitely wouldn't be talking about it.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Address the criticism that, well hang on, that was 31 years ago.
	Why are we still giving money to these labs three decades later?
	Well first it's a good question.
	If it was simply to secure this material, then why not secure it, destroy it, and move on?
	If it's to prevent those scientists from working for the Iranians or something else, okay.
	Well, 30 years ago is a whole career ago.
	So those guys are retired by now, for the most part.
	What are we doing?
	They're not hiring other guys to do bioweapons warfare, but they are hiring Ukrainian scientists to discover cures for Ukrainian crop blight or different types of diseases that are unique to that part of Europe.
	And a whole range of other things that do need to be secured because if these samples do get out of the labs, it'll be a problem.
	Not on the scale of the Wuhan virus.
	That's a class four lab.
	Totally different facility.
	That's a bioweapon facility that the U.S. was funding in China, which we still haven't come to terms with.
	But this is just none of the public information ever, and most of the information is public, has ever suggested that these were bioweapons labs that remained active.
	And wouldn't it be weird in 2005 for a brand new senator from Illinois to attach his name to a bill?
	I'm talking about Barack Obama saying, let's give some money to these bio labs.
	If this was an attempt to plan something in the covert realm to use to attack Russia, you wouldn't have senators putting their names to it, would you?
	No, and you wouldn't do it right on the Russian border.
	Right.
	Because it's unsafe.
	No, with Russian-speaking Ukrainians, some of whom You know, have relatives in Russia or they're really paid a pittance so it's easy to give them a little extra to help out.
	The last place you would have a bioweapons lab is in Ukraine.
	But let's talk about Victoria Nuland.
	Her statement in her interview really spoke to me as someone who has no idea what she's talking about.
	Or she was trying to spin something, because Rubio asked her a yes or no question.
	He said, does Ukraine have biological weapons?
	And rather than say yes or no, she said neither.
	And she started going into this thing, well, we're funding these bio labs, and then everybody just latched on to that.
	So was she trying to spin something?
	We don't know.
	Was she trying to cover up something?
	A skeptic could honestly, I would say, yeah, it sounded like she was, but there's really nothing to cover up.
	It looks like she's just, she just flubbed something terribly.
	And if she was trying to cover something up, she didn't do a good job.
	No. - No.
	Not very impressive.
	No, no.
	And she's the strategist behind all this!
	Yeah, and she's been there for a long time.
	Now what she might have been covering up though was corruption in the contracting programs because there's a lot of favoritism among these sort of permanent Or these temporary programs that become permanent that are run through the Pentagon and through Agency for International Development.
	Using our taxpayer money.
	Yeah.
	We're talking to the author of Secret Empire, the KGB in Russia today.
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	So as I said, one of the big reasons I should have done this earlier in a mea culpa that we got you in studio for a one-on-one is these great tweets.
	I felt like I'm surrounded, you know, lone voice in the wilderness saying, guys, enough with the Cookie theories and then suddenly everybody's piling on me as some kind of globalist shill for Klaus Schwab out of the WEF.
	Yeah the guy whose whose parents escaped communism he's the shill for the globalists.
	And then I see Mike Waller tweet this Just because our intelligence and national security communities are politicized, our military leadership is woke, and the Soros WEF cult are out to destroy humanity in cahoots with Xi Jinping, it doesn't mean that Vladimir Putin is a good guy!
	And the last line is the thing that really touched my heart.
	Pathetic to have to say that.
	Yes it is and I'm going to juxtapose that with a it's difficult with a tweet from somebody I like who's quite a quite a conservative he's a comedian so I don't know why you're commenting on geopolitics Tim.
	A lot of geopolitical biolab sovietologist experts been born in the last four weeks saying Putin being evil, a murderous tyrant who needs to be stopped, doesn't make Zelensky a good guy.
	Well, it doesn't make him a bad guy either, does it, Mike?
	No, it doesn't.
	Whether or not he's a good guy or a bad guy shouldn't matter to us, because you have a country that's very important, that's right on the borders with our allies, where the people actually want to fight to defend their country.
	I don't think you'll see Germans fighting to defend their country like the Ukrainians would.
	This blows my mind.
	If we say we're conservatives, Shouldn't we de facto just respect and even try to help a guy who's fighting for his national sovereignty?
	Is that like a principle of MAGA and America First?
	Yeah, exactly.
	He's doing what anyone would expect a leader to do, and that's ask for whatever help possible.
	So if he's asking us to help him more directly militarily, that's his duty as the president of his country.
	It's our duty to figure out what's in our interests.
	So we can't get mad at him for asking for help and for getting upset that he doesn't get enough.
	It's a fight where you've got to A real brave people who are taking on the Russians, just like Finland did in the late 1930s.
	They defeated the Soviets.
	And Ukraine can do the same thing too, if we just give them the tools.
	All right, we'll talk about what we should be doing in a moment.
	But first, I have to keep addressing this because we need to kill this baby in the cradle.
	I'm sorry, the monster of conspiracy theory.
	So they call him a puppet of the World Economic Forum, which, by the way, Putin went to many, many times.
	They call him a Nazi, despite being a Jew whose relatives died in the Holocaust, and they say that Ukraine is a hotbed for Nazis that are committing genocide against Russians.
	Can you just talk to these theories, Mike?
	That last one, the Ukrainian Nazi genocide, has been a Soviet propaganda theme since the 1950s.
	Since the 50s.
	This was back when the United States was supporting a Ukrainian resistance movement to fight Stalin's forces and the forces right after Stalin for an independent Ukraine.
	And it failed mainly because the Soviets had penetrated the British Secret Service.
	So to call them Nazis today is just warmed over Stalinist propaganda.
	And the Azov battalion that allegedly is running Ukraine?
	Yeah, it's a military unit of about 900 men and it was founded in 2014 and some of the guys were neo-Nazis and they had, months later the Ukrainian government took over the unit, purged it and made it part of the regular Ukrainian military.
	So now they're saying, well there's a letter N with a slash through it and that's a Nazi symbol.
	No, it's not.
	It's an ancient Viking runic symbol that means wolf trap.
	So what's so Nazi about a thousand-year-old symbol?
	It's just part of Ukraine.
	The Vikings settled Ukraine.
	They founded the city of Kiev.
	They founded what's today the Ukrainian nation and the Russian nation.
	So it's all just ancient history for them.
	There's nothing Nazi about it.
	And this idea that he's a puppet who was installed by the globalists and the KGB colonel is a force for Western civilization fighting the globalists?
	Yeah, that's kind of the way the narrative has been twisted.
	Remember, the globalists wanted President Zelensky to run away.
	Yes!
	They wanted him to flee his capital, to go to Lviv, which is a city near Poland, or maybe even to leave Ukraine and go to Poland and run away from the fight.
	He shocked them!
	He upset them.
	He anchored them by saying, no, I'm going to stay.
	I don't want your ride.
	I want your ammunition.
	And that freaked everybody out because you'd notice there was no strategy on the Biden administration part to support him.
	There still really isn't.
	It's just knee-jerk responses to what he needs and to what other European countries say.
	Shame on us for having no strategy.
	Talk about sovereignty.
	The United States is not exercising its own sovereignty because it's not taking the lead.
	We haven't even decided what's in our own national interests and what isn't.
	Even the Biden administration hasn't.
	All right, Mike Waller is in the NSC.
	What is he saying to the chief strategists in the White House when it comes to helping Ukraine?
	I wrote a piece for Heritage where I said, got to unleash U.S.
	energy because that's the only thing that hurts Putin.
	Got to move our troops to areas that matter.
	They don't want to be sitting in Germany.
	They should be in the Baltic states, Poland and Hungary on the front line.
	And then provide as much weaponry as we can and intel packets for targeting the Russians to Kiev.
	What would you add?
	I would say adjust the sanctions.
	We don't want to sanction the Russian people.
	It's not like a color revolution thing that the globalists would want because the Russian people are not organized.
	They're not even inclined to that.
	So why are we sanctioning, you know, banning Pink Floyd?
	Not allowing average Russians to buy groceries?
	This is playing into Putin's hands.
	He's saying the whole West hates all of us.
	It strengthens him.
	It strengthens him.
	It proves his propaganda because he's saying they're not out to get just me.
	They're out to get every last one of you and they want to sanction you every way they can so I would make it I would go much easier on the Russian people and show this is not a war against the Russian people.
	Then I'd play sanctions games with the oligarchs.
	Have targeted sanctions against some oligarchs.
	It's the only time sanctions ever work, unless it's for very high-tech equipment that's required for WMD, which they always get around anyway with dual use.
	It is the targeting of individuals at the top of the regime and the bodies at the top of the regime.
	That is the only kind of sanction that works.
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	So earlier, Mike, you said the president's strategy on Russia wasn't the best, and then he got all sidetracked or derailed with the Russia hoax and Mueller and everything else.
	You've so been living this for 40 years now, fighting communists across the globe.
	I know he's running.
	God willing, if we do our part, he will be in the White House with no restrictions, because second term is the only term he can fill, so he can do whatever he wants.
	What is the correct Russia strategy?
	And also, given your expertise, the correct counter-ideology mechanism, whether it's Iranians, North Koreans, we need a new kind of active measures working group, at least, don't we?
	Sure, sure.
	To deal with not only Russia, but China, jihadists, you name it.
	So talk to us about the right Russia strategy.
	The right Russia strategy for now, like if we had to have one right this minute.
	Yes.
	First, you create a back channel into people who are around Putin.
	Right now, Biden and the World Economic Forum and everyone else have made it so it's impossible for anybody to talk to other Russians without being branded a Putin.
	Everybody's been shut out.
	Yeah.
	OK, so you've got to find people who you can talk to who could maybe help us.
	What?
	Sort of a Rudolf Hess kind of moment, where we don't know if he was a Hitler insider who flew to Britain, and the story was he was trying to defect or trying to arrange something separate.
	We never knew the truth about it, but you need that inside Putin's inner circle.
	The only change in Russia is going to come from Putin's inner circle.
	From the top, good.
	Alright, so back channel, I love it.
	What else would you do with regards to Russia, either now or in a second Trump administration?
	I would make sure that the Communist Chinese don't take advantage of the gifts that Biden has given them.
	Now the Communists are coming in, they're buying up cheap Russian assets, they're merging with the Russian banking system, they're getting access cheaply to Russian technology and raw materials the way they never could before.
	So if you look at what Biden's been doing toward Russia, everything has been benefiting Xi Jinping.
	Yeah.
	To the point of bringing in China as a mediator in a European war.
	So, anything we do with Russia has to be at the expense of China, because as bad as things are right now with Russia and Ukraine, it's going to be nothing in comparison to the way China's being empowered.
	And nobody is more wrong in geopolitics and international relations than Francis Fukuyama.
	History didn't end, Frank!
	So, Mike Waller, how do we get America to be serious again about counter-ideological capabilities?
	What does that look like?
	Well it's really hard to do because our government can't do it.
	Because every time our government does it, well they can do it if they do transgender.
	They can do the bad version.
	But they're propagandizing us on evil things like all of this stuff.
	But in terms of countering bad ideology, we couldn't do it well against the jihadists after 9-11.
	We couldn't even say the word jihadist.
	Right.
	We both work at Fort Bragg.
	We were shut up about those kinds of things.
	My briefing slides for the FBI was censored because you're not allowed to call Al Qaeda jihadists even though that's what they say they are.
	So are you saying that this has to be done outside of government?
	Yes.
	It's more efficient.
	It's easier.
	You can do what you want.
	And it's not expensive.
	Love it.
	Okay.
	Last question.
	I remember a conversation I had with you.
	I think before I entered the White House, where you were contemplating leaving America, and I said, no, we don't.
	We die here on a pile of brass if necessary.
	That was at least five years ago.
	You're still here, Mike!
	What does that mean?
	It was just a frustration sort of ruminating what it would be like and then saying there's no place left to go.
	No, my ancestors settled here.
	We were the first ship after the Mayflower in 1621.
	So I'm not leaving.
	I'm going to die here.
	But I don't feel like it's America anymore.
	But at that time, we all felt pretty alone five years ago.
	Now we don't feel that way anymore.
	We're united, right?
	So many of us who are so frustrated with things, we felt this isolation and we felt We didn't dare say how we really felt.
	Now it's like we have to fight back because we're all experiencing the same thing.
	There are people who just want to destroy our whole culture and our whole way of life.
	We're never giving that up.
	I gotta ask you, I mean, that is a function of MAGRA and Trump, is it not?
	It is, absolutely.
	That he came up and he said, I don't care what the establishment says, and then we realized that there's at least 74 million of us.
	Yeah, yeah, at least.
	Good.
	All right, the book is Secret Empire, the KGB in Russia today.
	He's actually met Putin!
	He's not one of these bloviators in the swamp who's never met him.
	I've just ordered my copy.
	You've got to follow him also on Twitter.
	A very, very good Twitter game.
	Do it today.
	J. Michael Waller, you've been listening to America First one-on-one.

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