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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Why did Ketanji Brown refuse to define a woman?

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	Greetings, dear friends.
	What's the most important thing in life?
	The triumvirate of important things is easy to discern.
	It's really part and parcel of our founding principles.
	It's God, family and country.
	Is there one thing that binds those that should inform those?
	With our economy in shambles right now, double-digit inflation, millions, literally millions crossing the border illegally in just the last year, and now a war in Europe.
	It feels hard sometimes, doesn't it?
	To decide what the most important thing should be.
	But really, it isn't.
	The good book, and there's a reason it's called the good book, is clear.
	And it has the answer.
	The Bible tells us, the truth shall set you free.
	And the truth is the most important thing.
	Life in our civilization, Western civilization, is no longer shaped by just politics, by a simple divergence in ideologies.
	Instead, we are separated and we are measured by one standard and one standard alone, whether or not we are committed to the truth.
	And I mean the truth, because in all cases that matter, there is but one truth.
	There's none of this grey zone, or it's a matter of opinion.
	This week, we see the nomination, the hearings of the next Associate Justice to the highest court in the land.
	A court that may soon decide the fate of the abortion industry in America.
	Yet when asked, and we'll play you the cuts later, when life begins, Judge Brown, well, she didn't know.
	She said, I have no idea.
	When asked another simple question, what is the definition of woman, She likewise couldn't answer.
	Which is strange, given the fact that the person who nominated her said in his campaign that I will be nominating a black female.
	So she was chosen because of her gender, but she doesn't know what the word female means.
	How is that possible?
	Well, it's not an accident.
	As brave authors and investigators who have been on this show many, many times, like Dr. James Lindsay and Chris Ruffo have documented, left-wing politics is no longer about the working class, or the underdog, or being quote-unquote empathetic, being the nice guys.
	The New Left, or as my wife calls it, Next Gen Marxists, and I like that, have one overarching mission now.
	To deny the existence of objective truth.
	To convince the world that a mere statement that external, immutable truth exists outside of the human brain is an expression of, quote, white fragility, or cisgender patriarchy, whatever that means.
	Is there any better evidence than the whole Leah Thompson Farago?
	A male swimmer who's such a failure he is ranked 426th nationally as an athlete decides to pretend he's a girl so that he can now crush the dreams of actual female swimmers because the NCAA are a bunch of cowards?
	But this isn't the story of just one loser who's worked out how to game the system and be a cheat, a system peopled by spineless bureaucrats.
	It's also an all-out assault on America and America's children.
	Thanks to the China virus, as millions of children were sent home for a year, despite Covid being practically irrelevant to them and representing zero danger to children, parents finally got to saw across the nation what the teachers were pumping their children's heads full of.
	What the teacher training colleges had been taught to indoctrinate our children with.
	To become agents of next-gen Marxism with their perversion of history and even their perversion of biology.
	From arguing that in the 1619 project that America is inherently racist.
	That our gene code has slavery in it that can never ever be washed off.
	Or promoting a transgender agenda to such an extent that young teenage girls are being shepherded through gender transition procedures without the knowledge of their parents.
	Despite the fact that transitioning your sex is in fact impossible.
	From the point of conception, when new DNA is created, if you've got an XX chromosome identity, you're a woman.
	Forever.
	And if you've got an XY, you're a male.
	Until you die.
	Covid itself has provided a superb example of the assault on the truth.
	For months we were told the deadly virus could have nothing to do with that Level 4 biodefence lab in Wuhan, when of course it did.
	For over a year we were told lies about masks, therapeutics, therapeutics that probably could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives.
	But we're less important than vaccines, for political or financial reasons.
	All of the above is true, and I understand being sceptical, but not cynical.
	Yes, we're all angry after the fraud of the election of 2020, in which we're supposed to believe 81 million Americans voted for a senile, decrepit old man.
	I get it.
	I get it when we see Americans persecuted because of a demonstration that went out of hand on January the 6th, as we witnessed BLM protesters and arsonists walk free.
	I get it.
	And as someone who served in the White House, And who saw my boss sabotaged and lied about for four years as our nation was dragged through the absurdity of a double impeachment while real scandals like Hunter Biden's laptop, the big guy, and billion dollar sweetheart deals with Communist China were suppressed by the establishment.
	I get it.
	But our reaction to this cannot be a jettisoning of the principles of our founding, rampant cynicism or some final resignation.
	It should be the opposite.
	It should be a greater commitment to the truth.
	Now is not the time to propagate propaganda from those who are weakening the MAGA movement.
	People like InfoWars.
	Or anonymous social media accounts lying about what's happening in Europe as women and children are being bombed in the deadliest conflict since World War Two.
	Now is not the time to say, everyone is lying!
	Because that way lies madness.
	That way lies a dereliction of our duty to the truth.
	Zelensky is showing us what commitment to the truth means.
	When offered an escape by Biden, he said, no, I'm standing here to fight for my country, to fight against evil.
	That is how we were founded as a nation.
	So take heart, friends.
	We never give up.
	We never give in.
	We fight ever harder and redouble our efforts in our commitment to the greatest nation on God's earth, founded on the principles of immutable truths.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Mic's on.
	Okay, Mr. Secretary, you can go on in now.
	Good monologue.
	Thank you.
	Very important in namedropinfo wars especially.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	How are you?
	How we doing?
	They've lost more killed than they lost in Afghanistan.
	Really?
	More than 15,000?
	That's incredible.
	I wonder how many generals they lost in Afghanistan.
	I don't know.
	I've been using our figure of 11 in World War.
	Two, we only lost one in Vietnam, and he happened to be the father of somebody you know, George Casey.
	Oh, yes, yes, yes.
	But NATO is now saying that they have 40,000 casualties.
	That's killed, missing, captured, and combat ineffective.
	He sent him into the cold with summer uniform.
	It's incredible.
	They're dying by frostbite.
	There was an account, let me find it.
	Two and a half minutes.
	Where is it?
	Where is it?
	Madeline Albright.
	Yeah, Madeline Albright.
	So here, look at this.
	Really sad.
	This was on a social media account.
	This was on Twitter.
	This is a moment of war, the account.
	They've got passports of conscripts that were killed.
	18, 19 years old.
	It's the old story.
	I mean, look at that photograph.
	Look at that kid.
	Look at that kid.
	How's the leg?
	I'm glad I'm not on television, but I've got tennis shoes on now, which is better.
	Dancing with the stars soon?
	That's right.
	Do I need these?
	Yeah, because I'll play some clips.
	Right, so I'm going to play the Biden clip, and I'm going to play the Sullivan clip, but I'll do Sullivan first.
	Sullivan first, and you'll tee it up?
	Yes.
	Okay, we've got the food for the poor here.
	I ain't got any titles in my eye for...
	Oh, let's hear this.
	Sound.
	How old are you, Chuck?
	25 and 23.
	Wow.
	He's 23 and 21.
	Yeah.
	Da moi!
	Song And this one?
	Go ahead.
	Good morning.
	My name is Svetlana.
	I live in...
	My city of Kharkov was destroyed and my heart aches.
	Tell me, what are my children guilty of?
	My parents are staying in basements.
	Why is this happening to us?
	Why?
	And now our children are sheltering in basements of schools.
	Schools have been bombed, hospitals have been bombed.
	Okay.
	Come in with the music, and then as you're potting it down, come in with the first cut.
	Sounds good.
	Okay.
	All right.
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	- - Imagine waking up to sounds like that with your children arrayed around you.
	That is real.
	That's not a movie.
	That's from the Ukraine and not a battlefield.
	It's from a residential area that, thanks to the Russians, has become a battlefield.
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	God bless every single one of you who is doing their part.
	Let's continue our discussion of the events in Europe, especially in Ukraine, with a former member of the Trump Cabinet, Secretary for Veterans Affairs, now distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
	Welcome back in studio.
	Oh, it's a pleasure to be here.
	Thank you.
	So we've got to talk about so many things.
	Got some cuts from the National Security Advisor from Biden himself.
	But you mentioned something about the French head of state.
	Tell us the latest updates and also casualty figures.
	Right.
	Well, let's do the casualty figures first.
	The British M.O.D.
	has now said that the Russians have lost more in combat than they did in the entire Afghanistan.
	Let's be clear here, less than a month of fighting in Ukraine, ten years in Afghanistan.
	Ten years in Afghanistan, they've lost six generals and one admiral.
	Compare that to the United States in World War II, we lost eleven in combat.
	NATO is now saying that there are now 40,000 combat ineffectives in the Russian army.
	Now that includes 15,000 killed.
	That's wounded, missing, captured.
	And because Putin sent them into a fight with summer clothes, they are dying of frostbite.
	They're losing their limbs because of frostbite.
	I mentioned before we went live on radio there's a Instagram account called Moment of War.
	Lots of accounts that are sending information from the battlefield.
	Three photographs of the passports of dead Russian conscripts.
	This one looks like a six-year-old.
	You can read the passport is in Cyrillic but the birth date is of course in Arabic numbers, the numbers we use.
	18-year-olds, 19-year-olds.
	What is your measure, Secretary Wilkie?
	Sooner or later, this isn't the Cold War.
	You can't seal off Russia completely from outside information.
	This will create problems for the Kremlin.
	Well, and Afghanistan did.
	Afghanistan really brought them to their knees because people finally started noticing empty chairs at the dinner table.
	They couldn't even keep that information away from them.
	He can't do that in this age of social media and the Internet.
	But this goes to a deeper problem for us.
	How do we cordon him off?
	Well, we cordon him off by making NATO strong and making America strong again and returning to tried-and-true Trump policies.
	You mentioned the President of France.
	Yes.
	The President of France is a fascinating study because there are days when he says things like, Joe Biden is a threat to the very soul of France.
	And then the next day he calls for a European army outside of NATO.
	All that will do is fracture the continent.
	That's exactly what Putin wants, because it bifurcates the effort.
	NATO can only exist as a whole of Europeans with a strong America.
	So if Joe Biden says anything, he should tell Macron not to push that, but of course he won't.
	Well, he's on his way to Europe.
	Biden is on his way to Europe.
	This is what his national security adviser had to say.
	The sagacious words of a man who has no background in national security.
	Cut six.
	Let me close with this.
	There will be hard days ahead in Ukraine, hardest for the Ukrainian troops on the front lines and the civilians under Russian bombardment.
	This war will not end easily or rapidly.
	For the past few months, the West has been united.
	The President is traveling to Europe to ensure we stay united, to cement our collective resolve, to send a powerful message that we are prepared and committed to this for as long as it takes, and to advance our response on all three critical fronts that I've described.
	Helping the Ukrainian people defend themselves, Imposing and increasing costs on Russia and reinforcing the Western alliance.
	So if we are united and we're doing everything possible to help the Ukrainians fight for themselves, how united is the West if our Polish allies, one of the strongest in the alliance, make the offer of MiGs to Ukraine, we say yes and then 48 hours later say no?
	And Biden throws them completely under the bus, exposes them to more of Putin's campaign of disinformatia, disinformation.
	Your very good friend Niall Gardner was on British television, for those who don't know.
	Thatcher Centre.
	Thatcher Centre at the Heritage Foundation.
	And he said that the European leaders he's spoken with are just appalled by the apathetic response of this administration, this White House, what they've done to the polls, what they've done to Eastern Europe.
	Failure to provide the Ukrainians with what they want and need, but also to be flummoxed by the nonsense coming from the gangster in the Kremlin.
	The United States should never, should never buckle under to threats, nuclear threats from someone like Putin.
	We are galactically ahead of them in terms of what we can do on the battlefield and our ISR capabilities, et cetera, et cetera.
	And to have this response from the President of the United States, who is doing – this is what he's doing.
	He's given up on the notion that we need Ukraine to win.
	The best he can offer is, well, we need to contain the Russians.
	Yes.
	That is a prescription for disaster.
	That is a prescription for the cleavage of Europe from the United States.
	And at the same time he's doing this, he's using Putin to coddle the theocratic fanatics in Tehran.
	This is insanity on a level that we've never experienced.
	This isn't hyperbole, this isn't just, you know, posturing.
	Using Moscow's interlocutors to negotiate the new Iranian arms deal that provides the Mullahs with everything they need is sheer insanity as civilians are being bombed.
	We're talking to the former.
	Secretary for Veterans Affairs in the Trump administration.
	I got to ask him with regards to his former hat as Undersecretary of Defense for personal and readiness.
	A very relevant question as soon as we come back.
	He is Robert Wilkie with the Heritage Foundation, and this is America First.
	Whether it's, you know, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of State, whether it's Sullivan, whether it's any of them, you know.
	Rice.
	And then Milley saying behind closed doors that Kiev will fall in 72 hours.
	Three weeks ago.
	Three weeks ago.
	And letting that out.
	Yes!
	Can you imagine what you feel like as a commander or just a militia member in Ukraine when the chairman of the Joint Chiefs says that?
	We're the same chairman of the Joint Chiefs who like to disclose our most sensitive information to the Chinese.
	It's going to be tough when we come back to get rid of those guys.
	The whole stable needs to be dismissed and start over again.
	Find a good senior NCO.
	That's what you need.
	Find a decent NCO.
	Well, I never got a chance to do it because I was pulled off to VA.
	I wanted to revisit Goldwater Nichols.
	Goldwater Nichols created a system whereby senior officers spend so much of their time in this town.
	And I wanted to return it to where we were before that, where, as I've said before, you could have an entire career on one street at Fort Bryant.
	I don't mind joint posts, but D.C.
	is a killer.
	You become a political animal.
	And Clinton really started to make uniforms props.
	I could still see him marching down the White House lawn with Marines.
	And I forget what engagement they were in.
	And from that moment on, it was the military for theater.
	And then under Obama, it became a petri dish for social experiment.
	Absolutely, and it's worse now.
	It's worse now.
	Two million people under arms, they found 100 extremes.
	That they defined.
	That they defined.
	But nobody from BLM?
	No.
	Nobody from Antifa?
	Nobody from Antifa, nobody from BLM, no.
	And no, the stables need to be cleaned, and it actually has to start from the bottom up, in the sense that we need Strong people to look at the way we train our folks at the academies, what have you.
	Not only to the highest physical standards, but to get rid of the politics of this stuff.
	And the hours and the millions and millions of dollars spent in these indoctrination sessions.
	It is anathema to the code of the warrior, and it is destructive of One of the great institutions in this country.
	Well, it destroys the sphere core.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, they want to turn people into informers.
	I mean, this is unprecedented.
	Okay, 45 seconds of merchant relief here.
	Want to come in with anything?
	No, I'm going to tee up Biden.
	Copy that.
	I've got a tunnel mine for the monologue.
	Handling conspiracy theories.
	Biden has ceded the ground to Putin.
	And every time Putin barks, there's nobody in this White House who knows enough about leadership, much less the history of this country or strategy, to call his bark.
	This is what I want to discuss now.
	All right, 15 seconds.
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	Biden told him, hey, we can evacuate you.
	We're going to send you a plane.
	What did President Zelensky of Ukraine say?
	I don't need a ride.
	I need ammunition.
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	We are back with Secretary Wilkie, and I have to play this cut for you.
	A lot of helicopter noise in the background.
	This is, of course, next to Marine One.
	Biden's about to get on the helicopter, but a journalist asks him about the threat of chemical weapons.
	cut to.
	I think it's a real threat.
	Thank you.
	I think it's a real threat, thank you.
	When you've got a member of the Russian administration on CNN yesterday saying, yeah, we might use nukes.
	What is the response?
	Forget politics, Secretary Wilkie.
	What is the response when America is threatened that way?
	The response is what?
	The United States is the most powerful nation in the history of this planet.
	We know everything about you.
	We know what you eat for breakfast and what you eat for dinner.
	We know where your weapons are.
	They are not a threat to us.
	We can destroy your country, the drop of a hat.
	Which is what President Trump said to North Korea.
	Which is exactly what President Trump said to North Korea.
	And the messages that President Reagan gave to the then Soviet Union.
	You can't beat us.
	You can never beat us.
	We will drive you out of existence.
	Yeah, on the ash heap of history, and he did it.
	This administration does nothing!
	No response!
	Oh yes, it's a danger.
	I wanted to ask you, in your former position as Undersecretary of Defence for Personal and Readiness, one of the things I've suggested is we've got to move troops in areas that are not in the front lines, such as Germany and elsewhere, to the Baltic states, to Poland, to Hungary.
	How difficult would that be and how quickly could it be done?
	It would be difficult given where we are now and the dispersed nature.
	You can always bring the 82nd Airborne in anyway.
	Right, that's the point.
	But that's not what you need in this kind of environment.
	You need the 1st Armored Division.
	That's right.
	So that would take a while.
	The sad thing is we have more generals in Europe than we have rifle company commanders.
	And the same applies for the British and the French and the Germans.
	I mean, the British have sent one armored guards armored brigade to Eastern Europe.
	We should have started this a long time ago.
	But in the meantime, what we can do is deploy our anti-aircraft systems, our systems that can take out Putin's tanks and provide the Ukrainians with their planes.
	Let me tell you what they're doing.
	They had a hundred planes to start this campaign.
	They're now down to 60 combat aircraft.
	They've stopped the Russian Air Force in its tracks.
	The Russians aren't going in deep in their aircraft in Ukrainian territory because the Ukrainians have launched the most ferocious attacks we've seen really since World War II in terms of air assault.
	They're massing what they have and they are charging through Russian missiles.
	It's a fascinating thing to see.
	They're now taking off without any regular checks.
	These guys are fighting 20, 24 hours a day.
	Plus, flooding the zone with Javelins and Stingers and everything else.
	Absolutely.
	And Biden, again, not being a leader and not having any leaders around him.
	Giving in to Putin's threats.
	It's not the old U.S.
	Grant approach.
	Stop worrying about what he's going to do to you and start worrying about what you're going to do to him.
	That's how Grant won.
	This administration is so far from that.
	Putin is calling the shots with this crowd.
	And that's the great tragedy.
	I think John is biased, so I'm going to have to ask Eric.
	This went far too quickly, Eric.
	Don't you think we may need Secretary Wilkie back for a whole hour?
	I absolutely agree.
	I presume you would too, John.
	All right.
	Good.
	We have to do that.
	He's very busy now because he's senior national security analyst for Newsmax.
	So excited to have him on board there.
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	Other things we need to play for you.
	Not as good as that is what this judge has been saying in her Senate confirmation hearings.
	Absolutely outrageous.
	She shouldn't be allowed to walk your dog, let alone become an associate justice on the highest court of the land.
	We will have those for you later.
	It is that time of the week.
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	Trish, you may have covered this on your podcast.
	Apologies in advance, but I'm not sure our millions of listeners have heard this.
	This is the Secretary of Energy, Jennifer Granholm, at the International Energy Agency Ministerial with her vision, or Biden's vision, of the future.
	Cut one.
	Let me be clear, though.
	We are under no illusions here.
	The path ahead is a challenge, even with our impatience, even with our determination.
	It's going to take some time before we see a heat pump in every home and electric vehicles populating every street.
	We call it the energy transition for a reason.
	So it doesn't matter about prices of gas.
	We're just going to have Tesla's everywhere, Trish.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I'm really angered by this, because I will tell you, you know, there are some things that have gone decently well in this whole challenge with Russia, and that was our intelligence, right?
	Our intelligence community said they knew a lot about what was going on.
	Heck, I mean, I think anybody who was acquainted with Russia or Eastern Europe understood some of the territorial ambitions that Putin had and that probably weren't going away.
	So we knew this.
	And yet what did our administration do?
	They've been sitting there trying to tell us all that we've got to go green, knowing that there would be this transition.
	And in fact, knowing, I mean, if they knew months ago, as it's indicated that we did, that this was all going to happen, why weren't they doubling down on fossil fuels?
	Why weren't they saying, look, we need to get more drilling?
	Look, we need to figure this out.
	We need drilling everything.
	at home as much as humanly possible, because guess what?
	The American people shouldn't be dealing with $9 at the gas tanks, which we will be dealing with very, very soon.
	And so I just am furious that they're sitting there, and I get nothing against green energy, okay?
	Nothing against it, but we have stuff ready to go, and you're going to make the American people suffer?
	And I'm just curious, what's going to charge the batteries on all those Teslas?
	Lithium, which, by the way, is primarily out of China.
	We should point that out.
	Right.
	So I don't like that idea at all.
	I think that you've got to be realistic about this, and what we need to do is we need to be self-sufficient.
	We need to depend on ourselves when it comes to energy.
	I'll tell you, back in 1981, Reagan knew this.
	President Reagan said, said Europe should not be building any kind of gas pipeline with Russia.
	Why?
	Because you don't want to be dependent on Russia.
	We shouldn't be dependent on Russia.
	We shouldn't be dependent on China.
	We should be dependent on ourselves and ourselves only.
	And the news out of the Chicago Fed that the economy is not as rosy as Biden would have us believe, Trish?
	You know what I think about these Fed economists, right?
	Tell the world!
	Finally they're admitting these things.
	I think very little of them because I think that they're so up there in their ivory towers that they don't know what the price of milk is.
	They don't know what the price of gas is.
	They have to look at a spreadsheet to actually interpret all that.
	They're not in touch.
	With how everyday people are trying to deal with this economy.
	So you've got these fancy schmancy economists at the Fed even.
	I mean, for goodness sake, Seb, I've been on your show for the last year shouting that we needed to raise rates or stop all the quantitative money printing, right?
	The quantitative easing.
	They didn't do it.
	They waited until now and then they're like, oh, gee, gosh, you know, maybe things aren't so great.
	They're not so great.
	We have tons of inflation and the inflation is only going to get worse.
	And when you hear Biden in a very, I mean, angry, vituperative moment last week saying, how dare they say that printing money and giving out grants raises inflation?
	Where do these people come from?
	Well, they're political.
	It's purely political.
	I mean, what do you think is going on?
	You do one, two, three stimulus checks, right?
	We had three stimulus checks.
	By the way, it turns out there was all kinds of fraud that happened.
	There's hundreds of millions of dollars that actually never even made it to the actual people, or they went to dead people.
	You had all that COVID stimulus from our federal government and Joe Biden.
	That was the first thing he did when he came into office.
	And then he put through the $1.9 trillion in more stimulus.
	And now he's asking for more stimulus to build back better.
	That's never going to see the light of day.
	Thank goodness.
	But you can't tell me that that doesn't, when you print that many dollars and push that many dollars into the economy, actually not cause the value of the dollar to go down and the cost of everything to go up.
	I mean, does he think we are morons?
	Any little kid could tell you that.
	I mean, this is what's so atrocious about it all.
	Now, he may not want to take blame for the Fed, and I get it, it's the Fed that's separate, but what the heck is going on, again, with those economists over there that should have known better?
	This was a disaster, because you had both fiscal and monetary policy throwing everything at the economy for way too long, and now we're dealing with the aftermath, all while they're shutting off sources of oil around the globe.
	Yeah.
	Or getting on bended knee to Putin's buddies in places like Venezuela to get the oil and even that.
	That one doesn't bother me as much though.
	And you'll be surprised by that because you know how much I wanted to see regime change in that we need a democracy here in Venezuela.
	But I've always been But I would say of all the lot, right, if it's Venezuela versus Iran, I'm going to take Venezuelan oil any day of the week.
	That's an easy choice.
	The Feds may not know what they're doing, but this lady does.
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	All right.
	What?
	RumbleChat is just not letting up, man.
	These people... It's a lot of regulars I recognize from like the very beginning of the channel, but some of the comments... Oh, let's see.
	Dutch Van Dyke, a user who had been gone for a while, but is a regular.
	I actually remember that name from YouTube.
	He says, Well, that's not your decision, so tough.
	Bye-bye.
	We will not go to war for the corrupt Ukraine to defend them from the vile Russia.
	Well, that's not your decision, so tough.
	Bye-bye.
	Let's see.
	Let's see.
	Batten19, another guy who comments a lot on this whole Ukraine thing.
	The use of Food for the Poor money for Ukraine is idiotic.
	If they've been starving for 8 years, where was anyone talking about it?
	This is ridiculous.
	I donate to Food for the Poor for Central America.
	What?
	Who said they were starving for 8 years?
	We said the charity has been working in Eastern Europe for 8 years.
	Listen!
	Why don't people actually listen before they write?
	Honestly.
	It's bad to feed starving children.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, and it's bad to help starving children.
	Thank you, John.
	Right, because Ukrainian starving children are bad starving children, but Haitians aren't, right?
	Cretin!
	Switch off my rumble, dude!
	Get off the channel!
	Go back to Alex-whatever-his-name-is on InfoWars.
	Sod off!
	Bye-bye. 20 seconds.
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	All right.
	We are going to subpoena all his account records and this and that, and then all of a sudden we make the news.
	So it's more of a reputation risk.
	Yeah, because, you know, that's what banks do.
	He's not a criminal.
	But, you know, the FBI may do something in the future.
	So we're going to shut down all his accounts.
	That is Heartland Financial Bank's senior vice president shutting down Mike Lindell's bank accounts.
	Why?
	Because he's a conservative.
	That's why.
	They can't destroy him.
	Let's have his back.
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	Dr. G, you've repeatedly said you don't know when I'm being facetious and when I'm being cheeky or when I'm not.
	It's hard!
	It's like Mr. G. Very inscrutable, hard to tell.
	You and Mr. G. Dry sense of humor, but this is completely, totally above board, completely, totally serious.
	When he says that, immediately the hairs on the back of your neck go up.
	Oh really?
	John's being really serious.
	I'm going to start tipping you off in advance, just so you'll know how to play the ball when it lands.
	Listen, one of the obvious questions is, how much does a Javelin missile cost versus a Soviet T-90 tank?
	And what sort of cost-benefit analysis is Putin raising right now?
	It's $200,000 for one Javelin.
	Okay.
	It's about 5-6 million for the latest.
	The top of the line T-90 is about 6 million.
	And about how many have the Ukrainians taken out?
	Oh, taken out?
	More than a thousand.
	Okay, and so they have confiscated or repossessed, oops I'm being cheeky here, how many have they repossessed?
	At least 300.
	Okay, so that's where that stands now.
	Okay, quick switch, quick pivot here.
	If the United States were ever invaded, who do you think would stand behind the United States as one of our allies?
	Who would line up with us, particularly if we went up against both Russia, if they ever recover from this?
	If Russia ever recovers from this debacle?
	You mean anywhere in the world?
	Anywhere in the world, and then one other question, and then I'll slip out and let you go with it wherever you will.
	How many Americans do you think would form a militia?
	For instance, we have deer hunters just in Michigan, something like 700,000.
	They're all proficient with .308s, .30-06s, .270s, .300 mags, and they've all got four-wheel drives.
	with 308s, 30-06s, 270s, 300 mags, and they've all got four-wheel drives.
	That's just in Michigan.
	Yeah.
	Look, more than was the case back in the Revolutionary War when it was less than 2%.
	I think it would be significantly more than that.
	In terms of who would back us up, I think the Brits would.
	I think the Poles absolutely.
	I think the Baltic States.
	Anybody who's lived under the boot of the Kremlin would have our back.
	Great questions, John.
	And he wasn't being facetious, for once.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	mic's on isn't there a newer system that's significantly cheaper than the javelin Well, there's the Milan in the UK.
	I don't know if that's significantly cheaper.
	It's a bit larger.
	Right now they're flooding the zone with Javelins and Milans.
	West Coast, anybody copy?
	Copy.
	Awesome.
	Perfect timing.
	Did you see the email Seb with the stories Jen wanted to highlight?
	I did not.
	I rarely check emails when I'm on air.
	I'll re-forward it now.
	Don't, don't forward it.
	Okay.
	Alright, I'll just mention them, that's fine.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	Some other ones.
	This is a user I don't recognize in the chat.
	Ready to Skype whenever you guys are ready.
	Oh, yeah.
	Awesome.
	Let me pull up Skype now.
	Okay, just a moment here.
	Program loading.
	And... Awesome.
	Yep, go ahead and dial us up.
	Just give us one second.
	Sure.
	Can you do me a favor, John?
	Can you... What format did they send you the original one in?
	Was it a PDF or was it a Word?
	PDF.
	Can you... ask them to send me directly a Word version?
	Because I'm gonna edit today's and yesterday's into one document that's the right size.
	Okay.
	I need to manipulate it.
	I will send that.
	And don't do Tibideau, because he's not the guy.
	No, no, I'll go straight to him.
	Go to the rep.
	All right.
	Or actually... Yeah?
	I can, I can... Can you just cut it out?
	Pop it in, probably.
	Can you cut it out and just put it, put it in the body of a text, of an email.
	That's easiest.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Let's just save time.
	One point I keep seeing brought up in the rumble chat among multiple people is they claim that supporting intervention in Ukraine in any way is just playing into China's hands.
	They claim that China's like the big winner here.
	BKSLA in the chat says, Xi is rubbing his hands together.
	His buddy Vlad couldn't have been a more useful idiot, but Seb, Levin, and 90% of Fox News continue on as Xi's stooges.
	Presumably by supporting intervention, I think is what he's implying.
	I don't understand that.
	How are we helping Xi Jinping?
	I don't know.
	I guess as good as mine.
	Okay.
	Xi only benefits in that he sees how weak Biden is, but that's irrespective of what we do.
	I mean, I guess, yes, what we do matters, but if China wants to take Taiwan, no one's going to stop them.
	Right.
	Four minutes.
	Peace.
	She's not on the line.
	Nothing on Skype yet.
	TMCB76 has something for you, Johnny.
	He says, Seb, John, you can go online to convert any doc to any other doc for free.
	Thank you.
	Very cool.
	Tech support.
	Courtesy of the room.
	I might do that because the formatting is a little off.
	I don't care about the format.
	I mean, you could just... Okay.
	As long as it's not jumbled in terms of word order, I'll fix the format.
	Okay.
	Word is usually, of course, much easier for editing, like, spacing and stuff.
	Right.
	Hey, guys.
	Hello!
	Hello!
	We're standing by on Skype.
	How we doing?
	Oh, we're hanging in there.
	It's been a day.
	Why?
	There you are.
	Why?
	What's wrong?
	Is it your kitty cat again?
	No, it's just a lot of stuff happening at Salem.
	Oh.
	I was tuning in to WMAL on the way home yesterday and I heard Stigall guest hosting and I thought, how does that work?
	How does that go?
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	How did Jen Psaki get COVID again?
	That's a good question.
	She's got it three times and vaxxed and around the corner.
	Strange.
	How strange.
	So tell me the latest what's going on with you guys?
	Jeff is on vacation in Hawaii and everything is just grinds to a halt.
	Why in the world would he not take us?
	I'm gonna ban him on going on vacation again.
	I think that you should.
	I know.
	It's ridiculous.
	I know it's outrageous.
	Nobody gets to go to Hawaii without us.
	I know!
	And he even left his kids at home with the grandparents.
	Stop it.
	I know!
	He's just going with the wife.
	What are they trying to do?
	Come back with another one?
	And he refuses to send us photographs of him in a straw, you know, skirt.
	We want to see the luas.
	And he's just, I asked him, where are the photographs?
	And he's not sending them.
	Give us the goods.
	Come on.
	He is signing his emails.
	He's ending them with the word aloha now.
	That's as much as we're going to get from him.
	Okay, can you tell John to post 8, 9, 10?
	8, 9, 10.
	You got it.
	Oh, at 5.
	8, 5, 8, 9, 10.
	Got it.
	So, Jen, can you believe that not even a week ago I was at Knott's Berry Farm?
	Yeah, so I just looked in my schedule.
	By the way, I don't know where my phone is, so I don't have all of those stories that I sent you.
	So we'll just have fun.
	I've got the email here.
	She doesn't know where her phone is.
	No, but I don't even know what I sent you, so tread lightly with me because I don't even know where my phone is.
	So I just looked at my schedule and I was like, wait a second, you were supposed to let me know that you were at Knott's Berry Farm.
	I was going to come.
	Didn't I tell you that I was going to be that week?
	I didn't tell you the date.
	You've got to remind me these things.
	I, like, have 1,500 things going on.
	Oh my goodness.
	She's a busy woman!
	Was it fun?
	Did you have a great time?
	Did they love you?
	It was great, yeah.
	Met lots of great people.
	Got to meet Ted Gaines again after nine years.
	I previously met him in 2013.
	I'm so bummed that I didn't come out.
	How did your talk go?
	It went very well.
	I got a standing ovation, so that was pretty nice.
	Dang it, Eric.
	I wanted to come.
	Well, that was after you said who you worked for.
	Yes, yes.
	That doesn't count.
	How long were you in town?
	Eric!
	Yes?
	Answer her question.
	How long were you in town?
	How long were you in town?
	Friday night, Saturday night, and then I flew out Sunday.
	That's so cool.
	Well, I'm sorry I missed you.
	I really wanted to come.
	Maybe next time.
	Next time.
	We can get you the video on Rumble.
	Oh, perfect!
	I want that.
	Alright, ten seconds.
	Stand by.
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	and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka. - Yeah.
	Just crank it up.
	Why are we playing the tune from the best Star Trek movie, The Wrath of Khan?
	Because, allegedly, Admiral, he prefers Captain, James T. Kirk had a birthday!
	Yes, indeed, 91 years young yesterday, and we have his body on the show right now.
	Jennifer Horne, are you there?
	I am here and yes it was William Shatner's birthday this week.
	How about that?
	How on earth is that man 91?
	Did he go back in time or something?
	He looks so good and I gotta tell you my dad is a friend and talked to him.
	He was out traveling around.
	He was actually out of the state having some fun for his birthday going to horse shows and stuff.
	I mean the guy is just amazing.
	He's incredibly active and you know what's awesome is he's the kind of person that I love Seb which is You don't really retire.
	What you're doing, you just find passion and joy every single day and you keep going and it keeps him young and I think in some ways he keeps going just to stay going.
	So happy birthday to William Shatner.
	Retirement was invented by people who don't enjoy their jobs.
	That is right.
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	Jennifer, has he announced?
	Is he going to do that horse event again now that we're relatively post-COVID?
	Because that was so much fun.
	We have to go again.
	So a couple of years ago, you came out and we went together to the William Shatner Hollywood Celebrity Horse Show, which was canceled for a couple of years because of COVID.
	Los Angeles, you know Seb, just really opened up.
	So this year they're doing something, but I think most of it is online and they might be doing like a private small dinner.
	But I have this feeling that if I know Bill and I know his heart and he loves charitable foundations and he loves this event, that next year it's going to be back in full swing.
	Well, he was amazing when he rode into the arena with his wife on horseback.
	I thought, wow, that's impressive, dude.
	That's impressive.
	Okay.
	He's still riding.
	I know.
	It's so incredible.
	He was like 88 back then.
	Okay, so we had fun last week.
	We're talking about our plans to go to Disneyland this week.
	Cold shower time!
	Cold shower time!
	So the Daily Wire has received an open letter from employees at Disney.
	Gonna read a little bit about it then I've got to get you to react.
	Over the last few weeks we have watched as our leadership at Disney has expressed their condemnation for laws and policies in Florida that we support.
	We have watched as our colleagues convinced that no one in the company could possibly disagree with them Grow increasingly aggressive in their demands.
	They insist that the Walt Disney Company take a strong stance on not only this issue, but other legislation and openly advocate for the punishment of employees who disagree with them.
	Over the last few years, one group of cast members has become invisible within the company.
	The Walt Disney Company has become an increasingly uncomfortable place to work for those of us whose political and religious views are not explicitly progressive.
	That's just a part of it.
	We can post the whole letter online.
	They can't continue to do this, can they?
	Can Disney survive having this political indoctrination inside it that leads to the punishment of their own employees, Jennifer?
	You would think that there would be something sacred like we could keep the mouse sacred right that we could keep Mickey away from from going woke but you know Disney is like all of these other big corporations and what I think is funny is that it all stems over this don't say gay bill which is not even what it's called it's what people have identified it because they want they want to take it down because there's a very evil push in our country to
	To try to end truth about gender, to try to make everything a gray area, and it has nothing to do with whether or not you support gay people or whether or not you want to say the word gay.
	I just wish that these people who are so upset, who are walking off of their job, and I think it's just a few, more than the whole entire total of Disney and the Disney properties, but don't you wish they would get this upset over China?
	Don't you wish they would get this upset over the Uyghur Muslims who are in concentration camps right now as China is committing genocide on these people?
	Instead, what does Disney do?
	They kowtow down to China?
	They change their film?
	I mean, the big story about Mulan when it came out is that they blacked out the concentration camps of these Uyghur Muslims.
	I mean, don't you wish that we would pick battles that would really do humanity good?
	I don't know.
	What is your take?
	Can the corporation, this is a corporation that has survived on providing wholesome content, holiday, vacation activities to families.
	Is there any way that brand is an Irrevocably undermined, sabotaged or even destroyed by people who just bring aggressive, radical politics into the corporation that's meant to be for children and families?
	Well, I think that's the point, right?
	I mean, the greater point is to cut down anything that was meant for families.
	It's hard to see what's going on at Disney, but the family structure is under attack.
	Seb, we know this.
	Everything that we know in our country, sadly, is under attack.
	I know that you've been talking this program about Katonji Brown-Jackson and her comments not being able to answer what a woman is.
	I mean, the left wants to destroy truth.
	They want to take that away.
	They want to push us within ourselves, away from other people, away from religion.
	They want to destroy the family structure.
	They don't believe in it, and they tell you that in all of the manifestos that you see about these, you know, great globalist communities where the neighborhood does all the child-rearing.
	They want to destroy the family structure, so of course you would have people who Who are woke and want to want to destroy Disney's ability to provide for families because they don't really want us to have families anymore.
	It's all about community child raising and getting rid of traditional family roles.
	It's it's really really quite disturbing because it's right out there in the open for all of us to see and I think we've all just been ignoring it for way too long.
	You've got to watch it.
	We will be dedicating part of my Sunday show on Newsmax to this issue and to some brave, brave Americans who are fighting back.
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	Okay, let's talk about a story that isn't getting enough exposure, if any, in the mainstream media.
	I wanted to talk about it on Monday, but it's been a crazy, crazy week.
	So Avenatti's in prison and Stormy Daniels has got to pay $300,000.
	$100,000 in damages to President Trump in her fake defamation suit.
	She says she's not gonna pay.
	Well, I guess she and Michael Avenatti can share a cell then, Jennifer.
	I guess a storm is coming to prison, although who knows?
	I mean, stranger things have happened, but isn't it interesting how karma really does come back at some point to kick you in the pants?
	And boy, did it to Michael Avenatti and to Stormy Daniels.
	And so I've been keeping track, Seb, and maybe you have too.
	In my little notebook about all of these scandals they say President Trump was guilty of, and they saw incontrovertible evidence that he was guilty of all of these things.
	This is just the latest one that was all nonsense.
	And why do you think it is?
	Why did President Trump scare the heck out of the swamp?
	It was because he wasn't supposed to be there.
	And they threw everything, including the kitchen sink and the kitchen sink and Stormy Daniels at him.
	And nothing stuck.
	And I thought exactly the same thing.
	I mean, he's been in business since, what, for half a century, because he's 75 now, so let's say, you know, started in his mid-twenties.
	They've tried to come after him again and again and again.
	The fake charges of racism, this, that, safety, prostitutes, Russia probe, the Steele dossier, Mueller.
	When you go after the king, you better kill the king!
	And they can't, because he's Donald Trump and he always wins!
	He always wins because how about this?
	What he says is true.
	Everything that he said was true and people laughed at it and they said, Oh, he's a crazy person.
	People aren't spying on him.
	You can't, you can't, you can't use UV rays to kill disease.
	You can't use ivermectin.
	I mean everything from COVID to Russia to what unfortunately is happening right now with Joe Biden at the helm or lack of.
	It has all come true.
	But it's OK.
	But it's OK.
	I'm watching the footage right now.
	Air Force One has landed in Brussels.
	Joe Biden, as I tweeted out this morning, it's going to get worse because Biden's going to Europe.
	And one of my followers responded, Can they keep him?
	Please!
	I know!
	Just stay!
	We'll donate him!
	Don't come back!
	Keep Kamala there as well.
	She can cackle with you at the press conferences when somebody asks you about refugees because that's all she can do.
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	This is America First.
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	Yeah, Kavu.
	I bet.
	So Kavuda is talking to the Slovenian prime minister.
	What are the odds he's not going to mention Melania?
	He's talking to the prime minister of the nation.
	Oh, he'll never.
	He will never, never.
	I didn't even think about that.
	You know, that's what I, I don't know if you saw the latest.
	I'm sure you did with Kamala in the book, you know, that's gonna try to take her down.
	No, no, no.
	Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me.
	Apparently that she was... Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	It's the stuff you send.
	Let's talk about Chessa and let's talk about Gascon.
	Is that good?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Okay, good.
	You know, I've got to... Hang on one second.
	I want to find my phone so I can tell you those tips.
	Hang on one second.
	I have the email right here, Jen.
	I've got the email in front of me.
	Oh, good.
	You can read the tips then, because they're very funny.
	The tips?
	Oh, the tips!
	Yeah, so Gascon has tips for keeping you safe from crime.
	So since I don't have them, you definitely want to read those.
	That's fantastic.
	So the book is, you know, the new Biden book that's coming out.
	By two New York Times reporters, I think.
	Yeah.
	And it's got a lot about Kamala Harris and Kate Bedingfield.
	Sorry, who wrote the book?
	A couple of New York Times reporters are writing about it.
	And so a couple of stories that have come out so far, I guess it's brutal on Kamala.
	And it says, Kate Bedingfield says that, you know, it's basically her that's screwing everything up, not the staff, not all of these things, not all of these things that she blames, right, for not being given the right assignment or given the right messaging.
	It's just Right.
	heard that screws it up and she points to her Senate campaign.
	She points to her presidential campaign about how she had to get out before even a vote was cast.
	But one of the things that apparently Kamala was upset about is that the cover of Vogue was given to her and they made her wear tennis shoes, sneakers.
	Anna Wintour put her in a suit with sneakers on.
	Made her?
	What, what did they tie her down or what?
	Well, and that's what exactly what people have been saying is, you know, you're the vice president.
	If you don't want to wear that outfit, you just wouldn't put it on.
	Right.
	But she did.
	And the reason they put her in that is to try to make her seem more accessible and likable and like average Joe, basically.
	Good luck with that.
	But I thought to myself, how ridiculous that she's complaining about her cover of Vogue when they wouldn't even look at Melania.
	Haven't you complained frequently about your cover of Vogue?
	Always.
	Well, yeah.
	I mean, because they put the wrong bow.
	Mine was hot.
	Don't get me wrong.
	But they put the wrong bow in your hair.
	They did.
	I know.
	I wanted the pink sparkly one.
	They gave me the purple.
	It was really annoying.
	That's crazy.
	Yeah, so she was upset about that.
	And it just shows you that even Vogue had an angle.
	They were trying to make her look approachable and soft.
	This is supposed to be a fashion magazine.
	And the book's not out yet, right?
	Is it?
	It's coming out now.
	It's not out yet.
	But they're definitely doing a hatchet job on her, trying to take her down.
	I know, poor thing.
	They also claim in the book that Jill Biden did not want Kamala to be VP.
	No kidding.
	She called him a racist.
	Surprised.
	I mean, give me a break.
	Those two apparently hate each other.
	I could imagine they would hate each other.
	I would love to see that happen.
	She was awful to him.
	We have a peculiar situation in America where vice presidents and presidents rarely... Well, yeah, there's gotta be egos at play too, right?
	I can use a good... Yes!
	Yes!
	Although didn't you – I mean Pence probably – didn't Pence and Trump get along enough until the end?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I think Pence was as much as – obviously there's disappointment.
	No, he was super nice in the building.
	And he was super – I think he served a really important piece of the Trump presidency.
	No, he served the office well, because at the end of the day, you know, apart from January 6th, at the end of the day, it's just a crappy job.
	I mean, because you're irrelevant.
	You're irrelevant.
	Unless the president dies, you're actually irrelevant.
	But he gave some solid credibility to Trump, who was a businessman with no experience.
	Right, right, right.
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	We have to talk California, but first, because I haven't spent enough time on it, I haven't even played the cuts yet, I did a monologue on it, but How can you make somebody who can't say what a woman is... I wouldn't trust them to make me a cappuccino, let alone be on the Supreme Court!
	Hang on, you're a woman.
	Do you know what a woman is?
	I could tell you.
	I could definitely point out a few differences between men and women.
	Behave, behave.
	But there's a great Posie Parker, this amazing British activist, is going to come on the show.
	She's got in big trouble because she walks around the UK where all the wokeness is just as bad as here with a big t-shirt that says, woman, adult, female, human.
	It's not more complicated than that, Jen.
	But it is, if you're on the left, because gender is a social construct.
	That's what they want you to believe, that you can choose your own, right?
	Yeah, I don't have to be a woman, I can be a unicorn, which is what I am today, by the way.
	And, you know, I was thinking about this, and I actually thought about a conversation that we had a while ago, and it's one that always has weighed kind of heavily on my brain.
	As a kid who was going to school in the late 80s and the early 90s, I really benefited from the fact that they put such a bit of attention on raising strong women.
	And unfortunately, the side effect of that is that men really don't know their place in society anymore, right?
	And so men are kind of, what do I do?
	How do I act?
	How am I an effective father or husband?
	And it seems like that's why we see all of these men who are lost, especially young men who go out and commit horrible crimes, because the society has kind of said, well, we don't really need you anymore.
	It doesn't play to the typical roles that we've seen with men throughout our human history.
	And so with women now, what I think is really interesting, if you're watching what happens on the left, we empowered women.
	Well, now that's not good enough.
	Now it's about empowering this gray space, right?
	No more men, no more women.
	And so you have to ask yourself why they're doing that.
	And they're doing it because, as we talked about, they want to kill the family structure.
	They want to kill any ability for us to have absolutes.
	I mean, there are very few things where you can come up with an absolute truth.
	And gender used to be one of those things.
	And now they're taking that away.
	And so why?
	Everybody has to now be pulled away from their religion, their families.
	And I really feel like this is an effort to isolate people so that they have to be more dependent on the government to help them live.
	Right?
	We isolate everything that we've known.
	We've taken away the norms.
	We take away the family.
	We take away religion.
	We take away anything that is a absolute truth.
	You need the government to steer you right.
	You have people who are totally focused on themselves and it's a really troubling scenario and you can watch this evolution from the 1980s with men to the 1990s empowering women now to today where we're just saying you can be whatever you want and we're turning people away from anything traditional or anything that we've known or a truth.
	And what comes next?
	I mean, what is the next step in all of this?
	And the reliance on the state, on government, isn't just with regards to basics like that.
	It's with regards to fighting crime.
	You sent me a crazy story from L.A., from D.A.
	Gascogne, who's giving you tips on stopping what, Jen?
	Stopping crime because he knows, he acknowledges that things in LA are a little, they're bad now.
	We had the LAPD police chief Michael Moore come out this week and say murders up, homicides up, burglary, theft, all of that is on the rise and by double digits, not just a few percentage points, like real sizable differences.
	So here are the things.
	He's got some tips for you though.
	He's got some tips.
	He made a video so nice of the DA to make the video.
	The first is make sure to always lock your door.
	Of course.
	Genius.
	Number two, do not leave a spare key in your vehicle.
	Really thinking outside the box here, right?
	And then three, park in a well-lit area.
	Don't park in a cavern.
	Don't go into that cave.
	That'll do it.
	And then lastly, get an anti-theft device for your vehicle.
	Is he thinking of like a nice Colt .45 or something like that?
	Exactly.
	I doubt he's thinking that.
	I think he's thinking not even logic.
	Remember that thing that you used?
	The club.
	The club!
	How about a rottweiler?
	How about a big, big rottweiler in the front seat?
	Can you believe this though?
	The dad can't do his own job.
	And so what does he do?
	Instead of saying, you know, maybe we need to look at how we're prosecuting crime or maybe not prosecuting crime.
	Maybe we need to look at how I'm putting biologically male men into juvenile female detention centers because they're identifying as women now, even though they're a 28 year old man.
	We put them in with 12 year old girls.
	Maybe we could look at that.
	Maybe we could look at the fact that he doesn't charge special circumstances on any of the crimes that he's prosecuting.
	Maybe we could talk about penalties, but no, he says park in a well-lit area and you'll be fine.
	Good luck to you.
	But I... I hope.
	I mean, you tell me.
	Are people at least laughing at this clown?
	Oh, absolutely.
	In fact, it's one of the few uniters in Los Angeles, and by the way, in San Francisco, where Chessa Bodine, who's just like George Gascogne in LA, they are Soros-supported DAs.
	Both of them have recall efforts underway.
	The recall effort, I don't know what's happening in San Francisco, but they're waking up over 60% of people in San Francisco, voters.
	are favoring the recall of Chesa Bodine.
	And in Los Angeles, their first recall attempt on George Gascon failed, but they have another one underway.
	They're gathering signatures, and they say they're on track to meet their deadline in July.
	So that's really good news.
	Do you believe it?
	I do.
	Is it going to happen?
	You know, I believe that Chesa Bodine...
	Look, there's some interesting stuff happening in San Francisco.
	They just recalled three members of their school board.
	Even the Mayor London Breed, who was a beauty of the left, has started to say sensible things every once in a while.
	And so I have some hope for Chesabodine.
	I think if it goes in that direction, I think there's a good chance that maybe George Gascogne will be recalled.
	It's going to be interesting because we also have a mayor's race going on in Los Angeles.
	Eric Garcetti is on his way out, thankfully.
	Because of term limits?
	Yes, because of term limits.
	He's also perhaps going to be the ambassador to India, although that's under review at the moment.
	Poor India.
	Because he knew about, or allegedly knew about, a sex scandal going on within his office that he may have lied about.
	But the mayor's race, the litmus test for all of these Democrats who are running, is who will support the recall of George Gascogne.
	That, for me, is what I'm looking for.
	And right now, there are a candidate and a half who seem to be supportive of the recall.
	One of the billionaires who's in the race, Rick Caruso, says he'd like him to resign first, but he may be convinced to support the recall.
	If the mayor's race goes to one of those candidates, or at least those are the final two moving into November, I think there's a shot that this could be something substantial that might work.
	Never give up, never give in.
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	Two weekends ago, How was it?
	Your video was used to intro my eulogy.
	He had a couple of congressmen there.
	He had state senators.
	It was a lovely turnout.
	Nice tribute.
	Was it a lot of people?
	Probably about four or five hundred, I would say.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it was a nice size, and he would have been really happy.
	It was hard to get through, though.
	That was one of the hardest public speeches aside from just a family funeral I've had to get through, but it was okay.
	I miss him.
	It's weird, but you and I were going to do a little tribute to him there.
	Good.
	So that's what I was actually meeting about.
	That's why I flew in today, because that's what we were talking about.
	Do you, by the way, have any suggestions?
	Because you're always wonderful at this.
	Unicorns!
	Female.
	Yes.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	That's how I identify.
	Female firebrand conservatives who might make an interesting element to our panel at Unite IE.
	Do they have to be in California?
	No.
	Yes.
	Who do we like here?
	Female firebrand conservative.
	Jesse Jane Duff.
	Jesse Jane Duff's good.
	The gunnery sergeant.
	Oh, that would be kind of interesting.
	Do you have her information?
	Yeah, I'll send it to you.
	They were thinking about asking Lauren Boebert.
	Oh, she's great.
	Yeah.
	We talked about Michelle Malkin.
	She's gone loony.
	I know.
	Are we alone?
	Hang on, hang on.
	Thank you.
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	The man who sadly bears the title President of the United States has come off Air Force One.
	He didn't fall down the stairs today, but he is in Brussels for the NATO summit.
	Can they keep him, is the question.
	We're going to go to your calls in a second.
	833-333-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	But we have some cuts I'd like to play for you, given that she's still also the Vice President.
	This is Newt Gingrich on Kamala the Cackler.
	I think we have never seen a national political figure, not just a vice president, but a national political figure who is as self-destructive as Kamala Harris.
	I mean, you watch her day after day, you watch her go to Poland, break up laughing in a press conference with the Polish president.
	When she's asked about the refugees from Ukraine, you see her 10th person leave her staff, who was, by the way, the National Security Advisor who was with her in Poland, who must have been totally embarrassed and demoralized by watching her break up laughing when talking about the Ukrainian refugees.
	And you watch other things she's done.
	And I, you know, I thought that she was an insurance policy to make sure that nobody tried to replace Biden, no matter how bad his cognitive problems.
	But I'm beginning to think that she's like Spyro Agnew, who turned out to be so bad that when he got replaced, It set the stage for Nixon to be replaced.
	And I have a hunch that she's on a very, very short fuse right now, because I think most Americans realize that the prospect of her being president is genuinely terrifying.
	I mean, it's bad enough to think about Biden being president when he's clearly not totally in touch with reality.
	But the idea of being replaced by Kamala, I think, is astonishingly frightening.
	Maybe an insurance policy, but an insurance policy that went very, very bad.
	We need to get Speaker Gingrich back on the show.
	Let's talk to Mark, New Jersey, line two.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, and thank you for getting the truth out, as opposed to the fake, corrupt news.
	Here's my point.
	I hope someone will ask the potential Supreme Court nominee If Biden and Harris could be held legally accountable for the over 144,000 Americans, in fact, who have been killed, died from fentanyl overdoses.
	Over 144,000, doctor.
	And by the way, about 230 per day, additionally.
	Americans, if they could be held liable because Biden and Harris are knowingly and deliberately allowing this poison to come over their open border, the border they opened.
	They know it.
	This is beyond belief.
	It's worse than, well, twice Vietnam and Iraq, more than twice the deaths.
	Yeah, it's a fabulous question.
	You know the GOP won't ask it on the floor of the Senate, but the idea that we know, we know where the drugs are coming from.
	The fact that we now have more people dying from drug overdoses, especially fentanyl, than as you said died in 10 years in the Vietnam War.
	If you decide to reverse the policies that we put in place in the Trump administration, To open those borders, to provide the coyotes, the drug smugglers, the weapon smugglers with free access to the United States.
	I really don't see if you're a brave man, if you're a good lawyer, how that case could not be made in a court of law.
	Fabulous, because the Constitution is clear.
	It is the President that is responsible for border security, and when he undermines it and people die, how is he not responsible?
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	Russia threatens America, and what does Biden do?
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	And then for Trish... Can I have a question or comment that you wanted to express there?
	And also the prerecord with Mr. Waller.
	Oh, hang on.
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	Yes.
	Yep, here it is.
	Thank you.
	But...
	I have a half mind that might actually be a robot.
	30 seconds. - That's a scary line that's blurring where automated speech is getting better and better and better.
	Not quite there yet.
	Not quite.
	In the Uncanny Valley, some would say.
	Why is that funny, Eric?
	The phrase Uncanny Valley has just always struck me as strange.
	Why?
	Why does that amuse you?
	I don't know.
	It's just a weird phrase.
	It is, it is.
	Who came up with it?
	I don't know, but it suited that.
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	Okay, it's been too long.
	I haven't played these cuts.
	This is the person who would allegedly serve on the highest court in the land, being asked a very, very simple question.
	This is Senator Blackburn, the only senator I let on my show, because she's not a politician.
	She's a citizen who happens to be a senator, asking Judge Brown a very simple question.
	Cut 10.
	Can you provide a definition for the word woman?
	Can I provide a definition?
	Yeah.
	I can't.
	You can't?
	Not in this context.
	I'm not a biologist.
	So you believe the meaning of the word woman is so unclear and controversial that you can't give me a definition?
	The expression on her face is remarkable.
	What do you mean?
	A definition?
	Me?
	What do you think I am?
	A woman?
	How would I know what a woman is?
	Given the fact that I have been chosen for this nomination because I am a black woman.
	There's only... This woman is under oath.
	Let's be clear here.
	She has sworn to tell the truth and only the truth in her Senate hearing for confirmation to the highest court in the land and she doesn't know what a woman is?
	There's really only two reasons she'd say that.
	Number one, she's a liar.
	And number two, she's afraid.
	of her fellow woke Democrats, a woman who volunteered for the Obama campaign.
	For that reason alone, if any Republican, including Mittens' Mitt Romney, votes for her, it's a travesty.
	Because if you are such a coward, or if you deny nature, And common sense, logic and the truth, you should have nothing, nothing to do with the law.
	You shouldn't be a courier carrying briefs into the local county court, let alone a judge in the highest court in the land.
	More to come from Senator Kennedy, but let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Will, North Carolina, waiting patiently, line one.
	Hi Dr. G, how are you doing?
	Good.
	Great show today.
	Thank you.
	I wanted your opinion on the Keystone Pipeline.
	Yes.
	Just, you know, how long it would take, but, I mean, with every, you know, gas prices right now, we need something, you know?
	Inflation has gotten so bad it's even affecting the size of your head.
	Why do you people have issues with the size of my appendages?
	Do you have small appendages, Will?
	You really shouldn't be jealous at a man's appendage size.
	I mean, do you have issues that you haven't talked about with your mummy?
	You're a freak.
	Yes, that's all you have is insults.
	Don't!
	If you've got little appendages, go and talk to somebody about it, you sad little man.
	Let's go to Matt, North Carolina.
	Welcome, Matt.
	Hello, Mr. Commander of Conservative Radio.
	Thank you for calling.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	My question is, how could a woman be invited to the Supreme Court who's soft on child molesters?
	It's shocking.
	And her argument, so not only did she say the internet makes accessing child pornography easier, therefore the sentencing guidelines should not be adhered to, with the questioning Senator Cruz used where she said in a court
	That an 18-year-old with photographs of eight-year-olds that are pornographic shouldn't be a criminal case because they're the same in terms of being peers.
	It's just, Matt, it's diabolical!
	It's bizarre!
	Yeah, it's worse than that.
	I think it's worse than that.
	I think it's truly diabolical.
	Why would you say That the amount the internet provides of pornographic material of children should mean lesser, lesser charges.
	It should mean the opposite.
	You're propagating more of the filth.
	But she for some reason thinks You get a pass.
	Thank you, Matt.
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	But he didn't have anything else.
	Exactly, no.
	He's so lame.
	You can't think on your feet.
	You get to the point and not know anything.
	And then he's like, you're freaking, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.
	It's not an airline pilot.
	It's like someone who runs on stage and grabs a microphone and then doesn't know what to do.
	I love those.
	Like, I thought through this plan to this point.
	And I got nothing else.
	I didn't think that far ahead.
	I just find it so amusing that they listen to the show.
	They need to touch grass.
	That's the problem.
	They don't go outside.
	They don't have their bare feet on the ground.
	But could you imagine if a conservative was so sad that you'd listen to... Well, there's no such thing as left-wing radio, but if you listen to... The View, or like... Who's that crazy guy that said, stop the hammering?
	Lawrence?
	Oh!
	Overman?
	Imagine if you just listened to that with the off chance that you could use some puerile insult.
	And not come in and have an argument together?
	Or just a better insult!
	Yeah.
	All right, so we still haven't played Kennedy.
	Alright, we gotta use Kennedy.
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	Actually, just come in with it.
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	For Trish's segment, how expensive will gas get?
	Question mark.
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	You got it.
	I'll come in with Kennedy after the intro.
	20 seconds.
	Yes, sir.
	Stand by. Stand.
	On the side of the U.S.
	Constitution, America first!
	On the side of the U.S. Constitution, America first.
	When does life begin, in your opinion?
	Senator, I don't know. - Oh.
	Ma'am?
	I don't know.
	Do you have a belief?
	I have personal religious and otherwise beliefs that have nothing to do with the law in terms of when life begins.
	Do you have a personal belief, though, about when life begins?
	I have a religious view.
	Religious belief?
	That I set aside when I am ruling on cases.
	Okay.
	When does equal protection of the laws attach to a human being?
	Well, Senator, I believe that the Supreme Court... Actually, I actually don't know the answer to that question.
	I'm sorry.
	I don't.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I don't get all these people who say that this judge is clever.
	You see, this is so smart, so intelligent.
	She doesn't know when life begins, which is peculiar because we live in America, and we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
	It's part of our constitutional order.
	But she doesn't know when life begins.
	Again, you're lying!
	You're a liar!
	And you're under oath.
	That itself should be reason enough that she should not be confirmed.
	But of course, she probably will be.
	Let's go to Detroit!
	Line 4.
	Mike, welcome to America First.
	Oh, Dr. Corker, yeah.
	It's like we're through the looking glass again, you know, and we can't get out.
	You know, it's like the hookah-smoking caterpillar.
	Yeah.
	Camel makes about as much sense, you know.
	But, you know, one thing I haven't heard anybody mention, and, you know, it just seems like when you look at her judicial philosophy, you know, it's hard to figure out what it is.
	But if you look at the idea of restorative justice, I don't know if anybody's mentioned that.
	But it just seems like really that's probably the foundation of her philosophy, you know, which is just disastrous.
	It said defund the police, close the prisons, you know.
	The last school shooting they had was based on that where they kept transferring this kid around.
	He should have been taken out of the classroom and he shot a bunch of people.
	You know, it's just a basis for so many disasters.
	Well, not only that, when she was caught red-handed yesterday, when they read her words back to her from her speech at the University of Chicago, where she said, yeah, it's great to be a judge because it melds all kinds of things like sentencing law and critical race theory. it's great to be a judge because it melds all Caught red-handed.
	She's not a judge.
	She's not a legal professional.
	She's an activist and she's a left-winger, former volunteer for the Obama campaign.
	Great call, Mike.
	Thank you.
	Next up, a whole hour, the inside story on what Fauci was really doing in the COVID task force with Paul Mango, former chief of staff at the Department of Health and Human Services, author of the brand new book, Warp Speed.
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	The COVID pandemic seems like ancient history, doesn't it?
	With the price of gasoline, with the war in Europe, but it's still there.
	How did we defeat it?
	What's the truth about it?
	Well, we're going to talk to an individual who was there at the inception, who was fighting the good fight, For President Trump in the COVID task force.
	He's been a regular guest on my Newsmax show, former chief of staff for the Department of Health and Human Services, Paul Mango.
	Welcome to America First one-on-one.
	Hey, thank you, Sebastian.
	It's always great to be with you.
	So first things first, the book is Warp Speed.
	It's available now electronically out in a few weeks.
	Hard copy, correct?
	Yeah, absolutely right.
	It came out last Tuesday in the digital form and then in early May for the hardcover.
	So we're looking forward to both.
	So there's a couple of types of books that come out of administrations.
	There are types like mine, which tell people what it's like to be inside the White House, what President Trump is like, the depth, the breadth of the swamp.
	And then there are the kind of stab the president in the back books, where people just think that they're suddenly going to be loved by the swamp and the deep state.
	What kind of category does Warp Speed fall into, Paul?
	Well, Sebastian, I tell people it's a story about a great American achievement.
	That's the category I want it to fall into.
	And I have to tell you, President Trump played a very important leadership role, a perfect leadership role.
	He was what I call the executive sponsor.
	of Operation Warp Speed.
	Well, what does that mean?
	It means he gave us all of the resources we needed to be successful, but he never micromanaged the experts.
	He let them do their thing.
	And that's why we were so successful.
	For those who haven't seen you on my Newsmax show, the Gawker Reality Check, why not?
	Why aren't you watching Sunday night 7pm Eastern and 10pm Eastern?
	But for those who didn't catch the interviews we did with you there, Paul, tell a little bit about yourself, your training, what you did in a prior life, and how you ended up at Health and Human Services in the Trump administration.
	Yeah, well, Sebastian, I've been blessed by this country.
	When I was an 18-year-old, I went off to West Point, United States Military Academy.
	I graduated in 1981.
	By the way, Ronald Reagan handed me my diploma.
	Oh my gosh!
	Oh my gosh!
	Do you have photographs of that, Paul?
	I do.
	I have one on my phone if your viewers want to see it.
	But anyway, it was two months after his assassination attempt.
	He came in and he gave a 45 minute address and he basically told us two things.
	Thank you for serving your country.
	I'm going to make you proud of it again.
	And indeed he did.
	I went off to the 82nd Airborne Division, spent time there as a field artillery officer, spent a couple of years in Europe, returned to the States, went straight to Harvard Business School.
	And then after graduation, I joined a firm, a big firm called McKinsey and Company.
	You may know the name.
	Yep.
	And wound up leading the healthcare practice at McKinsey for a long time.
	And that's where I met Alex Azar when he was the deputy chief or I'm sorry he was the deputy secretary actually at Health and Human Services in 2006.
	And we stayed in touch.
	And you asked me well how did I get involved in this whole thing.
	In the summer of 2018 late spring actually right after he was confirmed by the Senate he gave me a call and said hey why don't you come down and join my staff.
	I need some help.
	I started at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, and then in the summer of 2019, he brought me up to be the Deputy Chief of Staff at HHS, and we were doing a lot of great things on policy.
	And then on January 3rd of 2020, Robert Redfield, the Director of the Centers for Disease Control, called and said, we have a problem in China.
	And that's actually the way I start the book, is with that phone call on January 3rd of 2020.
	All of our roles changed.
	Secretary Azar asked me to be his formal liaison To Operation Warp Speed, which included, obviously, the Department of Defense, Department of Health and Human Services, all its support functions, and the White House.
	So that's how I spent my time shuttling for most of 2020.
	Like that famous phrase from the space program, Houston, we have a problem.
	That phone call was the beginning of something that affected the whole world, not just America.
	We talked to Paul Mango.
	The book is brand new.
	It's called Warp Speed.
	It's the inside story of President Trump's approach, the amazing Warp Speed operation.
	Paul, there is that seminal moment, very different from how we've seen bureaucrats or other politicians behave.
	When the president caught COVID, went to Walter Reed, came back, walked up the staircase on the north side of the White House, stood up there and then took his mask off, that kind of, we can do this, we won't be defeated, and that little speech he gave afterwards where, you mustn't give in to the fear, we can defeat this, that was a kind of spiritual approach, that was the rhetoric of defeating COVID,
	Talk to us about how revolutionary, as a person who's worked in the private sector, who's been to West Point as well.
	How different was Operation Warp Speed in terms of how bureaucracies have done things in the past?
	And how different was this businessman's approach to this deadly, deadly virus?
	Yeah, absolutely, Sebastian.
	And first of all, he created a direct reporting line to the Oval Office from the Operation Warp Speed team.
	We didn't go through the White House Coronavirus Task Force or anyone else.
	We had a direct line of sight to him.
	So when we needed a decision made but say a multi-billion dollar contract with a pharmaceutical manufacturer we got it done in hours.
	I would call Jared Kushner.
	We'd get in there within hours.
	President would make the decision and we were off to the races.
	It saved weeks and months.
	But there was another aspect of the president's background that was very important here.
	And that's his inveterate belief in the private sector.
	And if you remember, Sebastian, a little bit earlier in the pandemic, we were short of ventilators.
	What'd the president do?
	He turned to the private sector.
	And I'll give you some numbers.
	There were about 80,000 ventilators in the United States at the beginning of 2020.
	And they're mainly in intensive care units in all of our hospitals.
	The president turning to the private sector for General Motors, General Electric, They produced over 100,000 additional ventilators within 90 days.
	So the president had in the back of his mind, The ability and the need to mobilize the private sector to confront the virus.
	I have to interject here, Paul.
	In your experience, is there any way that USG could have done that without business?
	That there's a prior way of doing things, double the number of respirators in just a couple of weeks?
	No, impossible.
	And it was a philosophy, Sebastian, where we define the government's role as enabling the private sector to succeed.
	But the private sector delivered that success.
	And we never left our lane.
	In fact, we had a principle within Operation Warp Speed, supported by the president, which is never let the federal government do anything the private sector can do better.
	So he brought that leadership principle with him.
	And what that permitted us to do, Sebastian, was bring in a couple of real experts.
	Dr. Monsef Slaoui, Carlo De Notario Stefani, People from the private sector.
	Dr. Slaoui was the most successful vaccine developer of our generation.
	14 vaccines he brought to market in the private sector.
	He was our chief scientific advisor.
	So again, you know, based on the president's operating principle, we kept the government in its lane and ensured that our role was simply to enable the private sector to be successful.
	The private sector delivered that success.
	You mentioned Jared, the president's son-in-law.
	You've got several sub chapters dealing with his role in the task force, the morning meetings, a lot of conspiracy theories about Jared.
	I've said on this show, I was an observer of the trade council for the president.
	I just saw a young man who wanted his father-in-law to succeed and who worked very, very hard.
	What's your take on Jared after what you witnessed with the coronavirus task force?
	Yeah, well, I would add to what you said, Sebastian.
	I think he's a very incisive Business person with a very incisive mind.
	He would cut straight to the most important issue in any meeting.
	And you know what he brought to the table, which was very inspiring to all of us, was nothing is impossible attitude.
	All throughout COVID, nothing is impossible.
	Whether that's standing up diagnostic testing sites or therapeutics, or as we said, vaccines, nothing was impossible for Jared and his team.
	And that, as I said, inspired all of us.
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	Paul, you were there.
	You were running the Department of Health and Human Services as Chief of Staff for Secretary Azar.
	You had a direct line to the President to make Operation Warp Speed happen.
	I want everybody to read the book, Warp Speed, but give us now a taste of The reality of how the other actors function, because we've seen a man, we've seen Fauci, and we've used the cut many, many times on the show, say, you can't criticize me because I am science.
	He's actually said that.
	A few days ago, I think it was yesterday or the day before, he said, get ready for the new restrictions.
	Get ready for the new lockdowns.
	This seems to be a man drunk on power.
	And now we have, thanks to FOIA, we have the emails in which he attacked Members of the medical community who said, hang on guys, slow down.
	We need to be data-driven.
	And he said, we need to smear these individuals in private emails.
	Tell us the truth about what this man was like behind the scenes and also a Dr. Birx or Colonel Birx.
	What is the truth about these actors?
	Yeah well I have to say Dr. Fauci's recent behavior and certainly those emails were very disappointing to me because he collaborated with us quite closely on Operation Warp Speed.
	He was very busy on the White House Coronavirus Task Force and as you know always in front of the media.
	So he had a lot of his subordinates working with us.
	But when I saw those emails I was very disappointed in them.
	And I'd really like to know from him and from maybe Dr. Collins Why they were so concerned about it?
	Because if they truly are scientists, they should be supporting the truth.
	But Dr. Fauci on a day-to-day basis wasn't really involved with Operation Warp Speed.
	He'd come to the board meetings, which we had on Friday mornings, but that was about it.
	Dr. Birx was, and there was a lot of, I write about this in the book, there was a lot of contention between Dr. Moncef Slaoui Our chief scientific advisor, Dr. Birx, and it was over which candidates should the federal government support, which vaccine candidates.
	And just to put it in perspective, every candidate we supported was two and a half billion dollars.
	And Dr. Slowy, the analogy I use is... Meaning the government is going to give that money to vaccine developers.
	So that is a huge decision, correct, Paul?
	It's a huge decision, and I should go back.
	In March and April of 2020, there were close to 100 vaccine candidates being developed all over the world.
	We had to select a limited number because of the complexity of the logistics of bringing them to market.
	In fact, some experts said, why don't you put as many horses in the race as you possibly can?
	Our strategy ultimately was the opposite of that, because General Gus Perna knew That the logistics of getting those vaccines to market and getting them into people's arms where they required different size needles, different size syringes, different intervals between one shot and two shot.
	Temperature controlled, not temperature controlled, everything else.
	Correct.
	So the more candidates, we had to prepare for every one of our candidates because we didn't know which one was going to be approved when we were doing this in the summer of 2020.
	So the logistical task forced us to limit the number of candidates to six.
	And that's what we had.
	And Dr. Slaoui distributed those six across three different technology platforms, the mRNA, which everyone's familiar with, viral vector, which is the Johnson and Johnson.
	And then there's a third one called protein subunit, which is Novavax and Sanofi, which I think will get approved here shortly.
	The point is Dr. Burke said, put all of your eggs in one basket.
	Let's go after the protein subunit because we've had the most experience with them in the past.
	And these mRNA vaccines really aren't going to be effective.
	Right.
	Because there's an established vaccine technology that we're familiar with.
	And there's something that's completely new and a radically different technology.
	Right.
	So that wasn't in her prior playbooks and she didn't like it.
	So she and Dr. Slaoui went at it several times.
	I talk about this in the book.
	We backed Dr. Slowy because he was the most successful vaccine developer of our generation.
	Dr. Birx was a great epidemiologist, but she didn't know as much about vaccines as Monsef did.
	Which is shocking.
	I mean, let me, as, you know, the guy on the other side, just the taxpayer, just the U.S.
	citizen, until you mention in your book, I've never heard of Salawi.
	He wasn't mugging in front of TV cameras every opportunity he could, like Fauci or Birx.
	So this gives a completely different flavor for what was happening behind the scenes.
	That's one of the reasons I wanted to write the book, Sebastian.
	I think America needs to know about these true, unsung heroes.
	And Dr. Slowy, and by the way, General Gus Perna, the four-star general, these are two of the most humble persons you'd ever meet.
	And that is partially why Operation Warp Speed was so successful, because everyone on that team put the country in front of himself.
	And in fact, General Perna and Monsef asked us for several months, do not let the media bother us.
	It was the opposite of, you know, maybe Dr. Fauci.
	They said, do not let the media bother us.
	We have a mission to accomplish here.
	So we had to protect them from the media all the way till about November of 2020.
	How important was General Gus Perna in all of this?
	Give us just a couple of words to describe that, Paul.
	Well, Gus used to say that he was a C student who tried hard and worked hard.
	But that was his way, I talk about in the book, that was his way of disarming those around him who may have been intimidated by four stars on each of his shoulders.
	They had been, Gus Perna had been leading a team that had been supporting combat operations in the Middle East for 20 continuous years, Sebastian, and these were the most accomplished logisticians in the world.
	That we're supporting Operation Warp Speed.
	They were absolutely fantastic.
	And the leadership was superb.
	Well, I've got it right here.
	Congratulations to Paul.
	This is the statement from President Trump.
	I'm just going to read it.
	Congratulations to Paul Mango on his new book, Warp Speed, inside the operation that beat COVID, the critics and the odds, which tells the story of how our administration in record time delivered vaccines and therapeutics to the American people to fight The China virus.
	What we achieved was incredible.
	But it is sad to see what Biden has done with it.
	Hashtag or parentheses, no mandates!
	Exclamation mark.
	Great job, Paul.
	That's quite good.
	I think when my next book is written, I would like to have a presidential endorsement like that one.
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	Paul, I have to ask this.
	I want everybody to read the book, but this is the question everybody still wants to know about.
	The origin theory.
	It seems pretty obvious that if you've got one of only two level four biodefence labs working for the Chinese military in the huge country of China, in the city of Wuhan, where the Covid virus breaks out, that I don't know.
	There may be a very high likelihood of the virus being connected to the research being done at that lab.
	Tell us from the inside why there was such a resistance from people like Fauci, despite him receiving emails saying, yeah, yeah, it's probably from the lab.
	Tell us what the debate was like on the origins of the China virus inside the task force, inside the White House.
	Yeah, obviously, Sebastian, back in early of 2020, We didn't know what we know now.
	If we knew then what we know now, I think we'd take a different approach.
	But I can tell you in February of 2020, Dr. Redfield sent a team from the CDC over to China, to Wuhan, to investigate this.
	And he was with, I think, the World Health Organization members as well.
	And they wouldn't let them in the lab.
	Dr. Redfield was very suspicious from that point forward.
	And I talked to him a couple weeks ago.
	And he told me something very interesting in terms of some statistics that I think the viewers and listeners will be interested in.
	And that is, there were two prior similar coronaviruses, if you remember, in the last 20 years, SARS and MERS.
	SARS was 2003.
	MERS was 2012.
	And both of them are what's called xenozoonotic events, meaning the virus came from an animal to humans.
	But here's what... Which is very important, that they can jump species.
	That's right.
	But he said the following, he said, in the almost 20 years since SARS and 10 years since MERS, there have been fewer than 10,000 humans infected with those viruses.
	He said, on January 3rd, this is in retrospect, I was talking to him a couple weeks ago, on January 3rd, 2020, when he called Secretary Azar and me and told us we have a problem in China, he said, in retrospect, we probably had more than 10,000 cases in the United States.
	And he said, there is no way a virus like this.
	Now, he's one of the world's leading virologists.
	He said, there's no way a virus like this could spread that quickly unless it was engineered somewhere along the way.
	Okay, I want everybody, we've got millions of listeners, plus the viewers on Rumble, on social media, I want them to all understand the significance of what Paul just said.
	You look at the prior, prior viruses that are close to this in nature in the last 20 years, very limited spread in terms of numbers, people who catch them after they've hopped from the animal species to humans.
	And then we have one that, boom, like wildfire across the planet, which in natural terms is unlikely.
	Is that at least, am I being cautious enough with that statement?
	I'm not the virologist, Dr. Redfield is, and he said it was impossible.
	So I don't think you're being too cautious.
	He said it was impossible.
	And coming back to Dr. Fauci and the NIH, as you know, indirectly through the Echo Health Alliance, they were funding that laboratory.
	Yeah.
	And here's my perspective.
	I think there's very good persons at the NIH.
	I think these are dedicated career officials, but they give out $40, $45 billion a year of grants.
	There's $50,000 a year.
	Okay.
	Think about that. $50,000.
	I don't think they have sufficient oversight.
	I don't think, I think there should be like an audit team that goes in and finds out what are these labs actually doing that are getting grants.
	To go back to your original point and to the nature of who the president is, I don't think there's a private company, I don't think it's a business that would have visibility on 40,000 grants as to expect USG or any government to have is of course beyond the pale.
	Fabulous point.
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	Massive question that we probably couldn't even adequately discuss if we dedicated the whole session to it.
	However, I've got to broach it because you were right there, Paul.
	I caught COVID.
	My personal physician, Dr. Sam Pappas, been on the show many, many times.
	Before I caught it, he said, look, there's a lot of things we can do.
	Therapeutics, hydroxychloroquine, then later ivermectin, the importance of vitamins, other things as well.
	Can you talk to us about why there seem to be from certain people like Fauci this crusade against therapeutics, against medicines that have been used safely for 60-70 years like hydroxy and then this war against off-label usage which by the way people need to understand more than 60% of
	All prescriptions, all medicines that are prescribed by doctors are used off-label, meaning they are prescribed for things they weren't originally designed for because they have been demonstrated to be of utility for other problems.
	Where did this animosity to safe, established drugs, vice the vaccines, come from, Paul?
	Yeah, it's a great question, Sebastian.
	I think we ought to divide it into two categories.
	One category would be brand new therapeutics, and the second category would be, as you mentioned, hydroxychloroquine, which has been around to treat malaria, I think it is, for five or six decades.
	Yes.
	And when the FDA evaluates a therapeutic for emergency use, basically the rules are, with all of the scientific evidence that's available, Did the benefits outweigh the risks?
	And what we knew about hydroxychloroquine was there's virtually no risks.
	I mean people take it for decades quite honestly.
	Well and we gave it we gave hydroxychloroquine to our soldiers in Vietnam.
	So this is how long we've been doing it as Americans in Africa.
	At the beginning, we didn't know about it.
	None of us laymen knew about COVID.
	So what did we do?
	We had to do some research, especially those that had a media platform.
	And then early on, I looked at the map of world infections, and I saw this fascinating thing, Paul.
	I saw that Africa is basically devoid of coronavirus.
	And I thought, why is that?
	And then I find out what?
	Hydroxychloroquine, the anti-malarial drug, is sold without prescription over the counter in Africa, which means people have been taking for decades, which probably is the reason that hydroxychloroquine protected Africa from the worst consequences.
	So keep explaining where this resistance came from.
	Sebastian, I think it's about control at some level.
	And I don't understand the hydroxychloroquine argument because, as we said, even if it weren't effective, which I don't think anyone has proven that's the case, it certainly wasn't harmful.
	So what do we have to lose if people are dying?
	And it's a real shame because I think we, you know, I mean, I think the government over the last couple of years could have put a lot more effort into
	Developing therapeutics or even using, so fluvoxamine, you didn't mention that, but that is an anti, an ADD, I think, drug that I just saw again in the paper just last week in the Wall Street Journal saying, actually there's studies that have come out that said it is, it has made a material positive difference in a lot of these COVID patients.
	So it wasn't the spirit of let's try a whole bunch of different things, which it should have been during a period of time when You know, in some cases, a couple thousand Americans were dying a day, and I think it's about control.
	Now, there's one other element of this, and that is the FDA sometimes is unduly influenced by the NIH.
	The NIH, you know, they're viewed as some of the world's best scientists, and if the FDA approves something and the NIH comes out and says, eh, we don't think you made the right decision, sometimes they're overly sensitive about that.
	So there's, that's the inter-organizational dynamics where the NIH has a significant impact on the FDA's decisions, at least indirectly.
	As somebody who's worked in the private sector on health issues and then inside government, Paul, I think, for me at least, and I'd love your reaction, one of the most disturbing things is not just the personalities like Fauci, who's been in his position for 37 years.
	No government bureaucrat should be in any position, let alone the same position, for 37 years.
	One of the most disturbing aspects of all of this
	is this rampant censorship of doctors and medical studies that you just you know when you find out that there's this politicization of medicine that people living in california or massachusetts can't actually get the hydroxy their doctor has prescribed for them because the pharmacist says oh that's the trump drug we're not going to give it to you how concerned are you at this censorship of medical
	Yeah, well, you know, Sebastian, I'm glad you raised it because I saw this firsthand and the person who was most canceled during all of COVID was Dr. Scott Atlas.
	And I have to say, Dr. Atlas was a fact-based guy and, you know, the Great Barrington Group and their declaration, which basically was spun the wrong way.
	It was spun as they want to basically let the virus spread so we have herd immunity.
	That's not what they said.
	They said it's inevitable that this virus is going to spread.
	Like every other virus.
	Well, and this one in particular, as we said, you know, what Dr. Redfield said a little bit earlier, this one had special engineered characteristics that were designed to make it spread.
	And the point is, Scott used to say, let's put all our resources toward protecting those who are most vulnerable, because we knew who was most vulnerable.
	But he encountered Deb Birx and Tony Fauci and others, and they said, no, we don't agree with you.
	Guess where we wound up now, after Omicron?
	Precisely where Scott Atlas said we were going to wind up.
	So those guys deserve an apology, I think.
	He and his colleagues from the Great Barrington Declaration, because they called it in the summer of 2020.
	Yeah.
	Apologies for them and a recognition for people like Dr. Moncef Salawi.
	The book is Warp Speed.
	You're totally correct.
	We've had Scott Atlas on the show talking about how he would arrive at meetings of the task force with, you know, massive piles of the latest Studies.
	Hey, this is what this says about the vaccine or hydroxy or whatever, what have you.
	And then Fauci would arrive with nothing.
	Not only would he arrive with nothing, he hadn't read the studies that anybody could read if they were interested in reading, which seems to be To me, at least, the basis of good health policy.
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	I am concerned, I'm not a health professional, but I did strategy in the White House for the president, is that, you know, it's the boy who cried wolf.
	Once you have the doomsayers, like Nile Ferguson in the UK say, two million Americans are going to die in the United States, Or you have people saying that, you know, we're going to have a winter of death like President Biden did.
	That the next time that there's a real problem, when there's a statement from the CDC or Fauci at age 150 is going to tell us we've got to shut down the world, Americans are just going to say, no, sorry.
	So talk to us about what happens next time and maybe how can we fix it?
	Yeah.
	Well Sebastian, just a statistic about 99.7 or 99.8 percent of all Americans have survived COVID after two years.
	Just to put it in perspective.
	And I think there's a couple of two or three things.
	I talk about a couple of these in the book by the way.
	One is we had zero excess manufacturing capacity for vaccines in the United States in early 2020.
	So there needs to be, you know, the investment, if you will, in domestic infrastructure and manufacturing of absolutely critical life-saving drugs and vaccines to prevent us from going through the things we had to go through to secure those this time around.
	But there's a larger issue you're raising, I think, too.
	One is just trust in government institutions.
	And boy, COVID created havoc with trust between the American people and, let's say, the Centers for Disease Control, National Institutes of Health.
	I think the government in general and certainly their spokes persons.
	That's going to be very difficult to repair in the short term.
	But I also think you know you put the now you know the hammer right on the nail in terms of communications because they were botched completely.
	And I've said that covid and I talk about this a little bit in the book.
	was really a behavior modification challenge more than anything else.
	Can we keep people socially isolated?
	Can we get them to get vaccinated?
	Can we get them to wear a mask?
	We shouldn't let the virologist and epidemiologist do that.
	It should be a behavioral scientist.
	And in fact, there's some very sophisticated techniques for how to communicate to Americans and human beings to get them to change their behavior positively.
	And we didn't have a single behavioral scientist in the entire government task force to respond to COVID, yet it was a behavior modification challenge.
	So I hope we take those lessons learned and next time do a better job, quite honestly.
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