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Feb. 24, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden's war, World War III, has begun.
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Welcome, dear friends.
Greetings.
You are listening to a remote broadcast of America First with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President of the United States from CPAC, the largest convocation of American conservatives.
In fact, 18,000 conservatives here in Orlando for three days.
We are expecting the President, the 45th President of the United States, to address us on Saturday.
We will have a whole cavalcade of incredible guests for you on the next two days.
But first, we have to talk about World War III.
It is with a heavy heart that we have to discuss the events that have transpired in just the last day in Eastern Europe.
Images that we thought we would never see again after the close of World War II.
Footage I have received just a few hours ago from those trapped in Kiev of strategic bombers, of fighter attack jets flying in formation over civilian tower blocks.
This isn't a small incursion into the rogue republics of the east of Ukraine, such as Luhansk and Donetsk.
The map is clear.
They have attacked sites all across the independent nation of Ukraine, including the capital, but including the West as well, within a stone's throw of actual NATO nations.
Yes, this is real.
This is not some kind of border event.
This isn't a skirmish.
This is one nation, a member, a veto power member of the NATO, of the UN Security Council with nuclear weapons at its disposal that has decided to take a nation by force, to rape the nation of Ukraine and add it to the territory of the Soviet Union.
Let me be very adamant.
Let me be explicitly clear to my fellow conservatives.
The idea that this is just something happening thousands of miles away, which is irrelevant, is fallacious.
In fact, it is immoral.
I will never argue for the deployment of troops on the territory of a nation that should fight for itself.
and isn't a member of NATO.
But think of this, dear friends.
Just go back to your childhood.
Go back to the playground at school.
The bully may have been bullying somebody else.
But as long as somebody refused to step up and challenge that bully and give that bully a bloody nose, That that bully would consider his victory to be a permanent one and intimidate others.
Just before the invasion of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, in a session of fake history verbal diarrhea, gave a lecture
to the world in an attempt to justify what he has called a special military operation by stating the following that Ukraine is not a country, that Ukraine never was an independent country and that Ukraine always belonged to Russia.
In the past, he has done the same with Baltic states, the brave Lilliputian Baltic states that are members, fully paid up members of NATO.
He has done the same with parts of Poland, questioned the right of these independent nations to exist.
Right now, military action is taking place on the border of NATO.
No, it's not the Soviet Union.
Yes, its GDP is the size of California's.
But it is a nuclear-tipped GDP.
It is run by an individual who is a former KGB colonel, who is exacting revenge for what he considers to be the tragedy of the loss of one of the bloodiest regimes in history.
Bloodier than Hitler, yes.
If you don't believe me, read the Black Book of Communism.
Hitler may have killed 6 million in the Holocaust, but Stalin killed 8 million Ukrainians alone.
A fact that the Ukrainian people will never forget.
The Ukrainian people who right now are hiding in the subway.
The shocking, tragic footage I have shared already.
Please follow me on social media.
On my way here, as I was traveling to Florida, I was on social media, getting updates from people on the ground, and sharing them on every platform where I am allowed to exist today.
Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and of course, President Trump's Truth Social.
The shocking video, you hear a young girl screaming as the bombs are falling on a residential area of Ukraine.
We are not talking, President Trump will not say this, I will not say this, we are not talking about intervention by US troops.
That is not That's what America First means.
But if you believe in 1776, then you believe in liberty and freedom for all.
You believe in representative government for all human beings, because not only we are made in the image of our Creator, but so is every single citizen of Ukraine.
And as such, I have concrete advice for what should happen.
It likely will not, because we have a weak, feckless, senile old man in the White House.
Every other head of state that matters had already given public addresses.
Boris Johnson in In cooperation with the opposition leader of the Labour Party, Keir Starmer, gave a rousing speech hours ago as Biden was sleeping, dozing, staring out the window, who simply addressed the nation an hour ago.
Let me tell you what we need to do.
It's very easy.
We need to help free people defend themselves.
And the Ukrainians will do that.
They fought the Soviets for years in the mountains, in the forests.
They will fight till the last breath.
They remember the 8 million murdered by Stalin in the Holomodor starvation of Ukraine.
But we need to help them affect that defense of themselves.
We need to help them affect their self-determination as a free people.
So right now, here is my message as former Deputy Assistant to President Trump, as former strategist To the President of the United States, as former Chair of Military Theory at the Marine Corps University, and prior to that, Associate Dean for Congressional Affairs in the Special Operations Community to National Defense University.
We, as a civilization of free people, must provide as much lethal assistance to Ukraine as possible.
I mean weapons.
I mean munitions.
And on top of providing Those means we have to provide intelligence that we have.
Nobody can come close to what America and the Five Eyes intelligence community has access to.
No nation has the surveillance satellites that we do.
The SIGINT, the signals intelligence capacity that we do.
And that could be the lifeblood right now to the people of Kiev and every city, every town that is under bombardment.
It is a very simple message.
Help others to keep their liberty.
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Oh, like the background?
Oh, the background noise is... It could be a lot better, but... It's to be expected for CPAC, I think.
Yeah, right.
The louder you can turn up your mic, and the closer you can get to it, the better.
But you can hear what I'm saying?
Yeah, you can definitely hear what you're saying.
Yeah, I have no clue what you're dealing with, but it sounds loud.
It is a riot here.
I imagine.
You ready?
We're in a break, so make yourself comfortable.
And mics are hot.
Use your headphones to get rid of some of the background noise.
And get nice and cozy with the mic.
Want me to turn the mics off for Mr. Roberts or leave them on?
Let's get his mic up.
Give them a few dulcet tones, if you would, back in D.C.
Yeah, that's right.
All good.
Keep talking.
Yep.
One, two, three, four, five, six.
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Great.
Definitely speak loud and close.
You got it.
Loud and close.
Loud and close.
I can do that.
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Yeah.
We let them know about mics?
Yeah.
All right.
Two minutes.
My mic, yeah, my mic is on.
Okay.
Thank you.
It feels like forever ago since the last CPAC.
The one that was in DC, the last one I went to.
Yeah.
That was fun.
That was.
Two minutes, two minutes.
I presume you've done a few of these?
One or two.
Having a good day?
It's Thursday, must be World War 3, right?
Right, it's crazy One minute 45 How big is your team here?
About eight, nine.
And the ones who are on offense, you know, special forces.
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You got it.
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Thank you.
You're our first guest.
I was looking forward to.
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Never ever drop your standards.
This morning I said, nope, I'm not going to wear a three-piece suit.
I'm going to wear jeans, slip on Chelsea boots, and I'm going to fly to Orlando And who is in the security line with me, looking like the dapper Texan that he is?
Of course, it is the President of the Conservative Mothership.
Honored to have him as our first guest today here on America First.
From CPAC, Kevin Roberts.
Professor Roberts, welcome.
Doctor, my friend, it's great to see you.
And I will say I was envious when I saw you dressed the way you were at the airport.
I aspired that level of dress.
One day I will give you the secrets.
I'll tell you who makes my jeans.
It's a guy called Levi.
Kevin, if I may, can I share with our millions of listeners from California to New York what you agreed to this morning in the security line at Reagan Airport?
You may say whatever you'd like.
It's your show.
Okay, I got you to commit to come on our show with regularity to give us updates because we're so excited.
At least once a month, we want the update from Heritage on how you're fighting, fighting, fighting to get state to be small and get our freedoms back.
So guys, put that on your calendar.
We are so excited.
Okay, the other thing, we were very, you know, ships in the night at security.
The thing that pleased me so much, because I don't know exactly where you stand on foreign affairs.
Right.
I know you're a former president of a Catholic college, the Texas Public Policy Foundation did amazing work under your leadership, but you immediately said, when I commented, you know, it's Thursday, must be World War III, Biden hasn't said anything yet, and why do conservatives, or some conservatives think this doesn't matter to them, your response was?
I don't understand why we as conservatives especially don't apprehend the danger that is represented by Putin and the horrific position that Ukrainians are in.
I mean that would be the situation or my stance toward anyone but as you know better than most, Seb, the Ukrainians are so American in spirit.
Yes.
These are people we need to be standing up for and I will say riffing off of something you said in response, it doesn't mean we need to be interventionists.
I have conservative friends with the best of intentions, I want to be clear, who understand that for recovering neocons like me, that we might be threatening to start a war somewhere else.
No, there is a third way between being an isolationist and being an interventionist.
There's a whole panoply of options between saying, who cares?
And, you know, nuking Russia.
That's right.
I'd like a little bit more sophistication on our side.
So here's two things I'd like you to react to.
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Two very simple arguments.
And tell me if I'm oversimplifying it.
As a child of those who lived under communism, who escaped a dictatorship, two things.
If you allow bullies to get away with bullying, sooner or later that will affect you as well, and Putin is just a thug and a bully.
And secondly, and maybe this is a cheap shot, but I believe it, as a person who chose this nation, if 1776 That is important to us.
Well, guess what?
The Ukrainians are made in the image of our Creator as well, so shouldn't we help them maintain their liberty, at least by perhaps giving them weapons and not blankets like Obama did?
You're completely right.
I remember I was in eighth grade, let's say, maybe seventh grade.
I came home.
I was complaining to my dad about this bully, and he said, there's only one way to fix a bully, and that's punch him first.
And we've got to remember that in foreign policy.
To your point, it doesn't mean we nuke Russia.
It doesn't mean that we send hundreds of thousands of American troops.
For some reason, your former boss, President Trump, when he was in the White House, even though he did not want to be an interventionist, and it's a historically important administration, avoided that.
Putin would not have done that.
And the second thing is, Biden's rhetoric, Biden's actions have been historically bad.
I got into a little bit of hot water, it didn't matter to me because of who was saying I was in hot water, by calling Biden an American Chamberlain.
Yes, no, that is everywhere right now.
It's true.
This is, you know, it's not, it's a little bit more than ironic that we just had the Verkunde security conference in Munich.
Shades of Munich, shades of Sudetenland, shades of giving in, and we're having, what, discussions about more sanctions.
Talk to us, if you will, on how, so one of the things that You mentioned about my former boss, and I'll share this anecdote.
I was in the Oval by myself on another issue with the President, and Kim had just done something in North Korea.
And he, out of nowhere, he just looked at me, was very grim.
It was one of the grimmest moments I had with him, and he said, I do not want to send troops onto the Korean peninsula again.
Why is there a lack of understanding as to this middle path or other options?
We are delighted to have Jim Carrafale on the show every Friday.
But for conservatives, there seems to be a paucity on adult thinking on these issues.
Yeah, and you know, and I don't mean this to be too dismissive, but most of that thinking is from younger conservatives, conservatives certainly younger than you and me.
They're smart people, they're well-intentioned people, but what they're reacting against, having talked to a lot of them today, is a very correct diagnosis they make, and that is that the foreign policy establishment in DC is responsible for so much misbehavior.
It's what President Trump put his finger on.
It's part of the deep state that came after him.
What we have to do at Heritage, what you're doing on your radio show, is to convince them.
We understand that.
This is not lip service.
We acknowledge that complaint.
Arguing for a robust American response to Putin is important not just to the Ukrainians, although that would be intrinsically important enough, it is important for free people in the world.
We're talking to Kevin Roberts, the new president of the Heritage Foundation.
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In the next segment, we're going to talk about what Heritage is doing for our freedoms in America, especially when it comes to mandates.
But before we do that, before the break, how exciting is it to be here and to see every shade of conservative, Kevin?
It's awesome.
I have not been to CPAC in four or five years because it often conflicted with the Texas legislative session, which I was kind of responsible for.
How long does that last?
140 days.
So beautiful.
It is.
It's a great lesson.
What I will say, every part of the conservative movement is here.
Young people, older people, side to side, it doesn't matter.
And I just want to let anyone who's not been here know, this is one reason that I'm optimistic.
It is where we come to recharge our batteries every year.
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All the whole thing?
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So they do that deliberately before some kind?
- Oh really? - I was going with that one, and I didn't know CPAC was here.
I just stayed.
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Good to see you.
Yeah.
Things are good?
Yeah, I know we have a phone conversation we need to have.
Two and a half minutes?
Yeah, one more second with Kevin.
Okay, cool.
Good to see you, Dave.
See you, Dave.
How long?
Uh, 2 minutes, 25 seconds.
Alright, so this is Relief, right?
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I don't think so.
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Got a title in mind for that monologue? - Yeah.
Yeah.
One minute, 40 seconds.
Biden's war in Europe.
And what to do about it.
what to do about it.
Yeah.
Schlicht is to be a OK, good.
And then McFarlane tomorrow.
OK.
Schlichter and 2B.
Copy that.
Who else came up?
Who?
Oh, yeah.
Do you know Pre-8?
Pre-8's here.
OK.
So that would be 5.20, right?
One minute.
I'll text Nigel.
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Can you come in with cut one?
Come in with today's Cut 1.
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If you can turn the guest mic down a tad or yours up a bit.
I'll turn Kevin's down a ton.
His audio sounded a little louder.
Yeah, yeah, he was a little louder.
It's just the mix there.
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you you You're listening to America First with Dr. G. Innumerable missiles and bombs have been raining down on an entirely innocent population.
A vast invasion is underway by land, by sea, and by air.
And this is not, in the infamous phrase, some faraway country of which we know little.
We have Ukrainian friends in this country, neighbors, co-workers, Ukraine is a country that for decades has enjoyed freedom and democracy and the right to choose its own destiny.
We and the world cannot allow that freedom just to be snuffed out.
We cannot and will not just look away.
That was Prime Minister Boris Johnson while, I guess, our President was sleeping.
I was touched.
I watched Parliament before CPAC opened.
We had Keir Starmer, the opposition leader, supporting the Prime Minister together to say, we have to help the Ukrainians.
American Capital.
We had somebody snoring.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First.
We are back with the president of the Heritage Foundation, Dr. Kevin Roberts.
You have got to join today Heritage.org.
This is the place where it happens, the fight for our freedoms in the swamp.
I'm going to ask you what you're doing.
First, I'm going to take my life in my hands.
And we're going to go wonkish for a second.
Then we're going to go education.
Super exciting.
Tell us about the budget blueprint.
We've got to stop these drunken sailors.
What's the heritage plan?
That's the best way to put it, because we can get wonky.
It is what we do.
So the headline I would write, Seb, is This is the plan to get us back to fiscal sanity in DC.
The reason that is important is that Washington's inability to spend less of our money means it's costing us.
It is literally costing us in inflation and a lot of other fiscal repercussions.
I know that the Democrats are going to spend, spend, spend, spend, spend, because we'll just print some more.
What are we going to do about the GOP?
Well, this is the key point, and I have mentioned this to House and Republican leaders, politely but firmly.
We want to help you message on this so that we have a conservative majority in the midterms, but do not get mad at me and my heritage colleagues when we tell you a year from now when you're in power, when we hold your doggone feet to the fire because we're tired of you spending our money.
Could the midterms be the opportunity to get some sanity in the GOP when we have some America First candidates come in?
That's what we're working on.
Okay, good.
I'm actually, I will say, optimistic about that.
My wife is about to arrive.
She has been in the Florida State Capitol celebrating new legislation that is going to get the insanity of CRT and transgenderism out of this state.
Talk to us about how heritage is a force multiplier to give choice back to parents in America.
And get rid of the bigotry and the neo-Marxism, Kevin.
Look, even though we are based in D.C., behind enemy lines, as I like to say, the majority of our work in education reform is in the states, as your wife's work indicates.
And what we do is we find those best bills, those best state legislation, and we get that copied in other states.
And so what we're trying to do is not just have the best action against critical race theory, Right now, we're harnessing that into wide-scale education reform.
And I've told people at Heritage, and also friends on the Hill, we will not have succeeded until two things happen.
Every public dollar follows every child, every school child for their choice.
And the second thing is, we eliminate, root and branch, 100% of the U.S.
Department of Education.
Wow, you heard it here first.
Get rid of the DOE.
Talk to us also about the unions.
Can we fix this?
Yeah, you can fix it by killing the Department of Education and taking away the trough at which they eat.
But on top of that...
With these fees they collect, also the teacher training academies that are the hotbeds of critical race theory.
I love, you know, money should follow the students.
But what about the unions, Kevin?
Well, there is a very easy policy solution provided there's political will.
And so this is what your listeners can do, is to call their state legislators.
And I'm just telling you 100% this is how it works.
The money that's funding those CRT lessons Last question, 30 seconds left.
That's your money and my money.
I mean, this is not, it is wonky, I understand.
I'm a wonk by day.
But it's our children.
But it's our children.
This is affecting our lives.
That is the connection, and that's why we've got to get rid of it.
Last question, 30 seconds left, but everybody who's listening has to get engaged and run for the school board or support somebody who's running for school board, correct?
Correct, 100%.
100%.
And it doesn't matter if you think you're not good enough.
Like my wife, she gets upset with all this.
I said, well, do something.
Run for the city council.
Be a county commissioner.
She says, Kevin, I can't.
I'm not smart enough.
Not true!
We need men and women with common sense who just understand right and wrong to go run.
Look, it can happen, guys.
I lobbied for 12 years and my wife said, I'm going to run for the council of the local cultural center in Northern Virginia.
Yes!
Come on, guys!
We can take back America.
One school board, one library council at a time.
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Great to have you.
Thank you, my friend.
God bless you.
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Thank you.
So we had a kind of two-minute grad school session in the break about my take on what's happening in Ukraine.
I want to take my life in my hands and get your opinion about what should happen.
You asked me what we should do.
Yeah, I'm actually just curious.
I'm not an expert in that part of the world at all.
So here's my advice that I doubt the senile old man in the White House will take.
But if 1776 matters, guess what?
Ukrainians are also made in the image of God and they should be fighting.
We should support them in their fight for liberty.
Not deploy the 82nd Airborne, not our job.
But NATO should be providing lethal assistance, meaning weapons and munitions to Ukraine so they can fight for themselves instead of the Taliban.
Second thing NATO could do because of the the most peerless intelligence capability we have is provide intelligence to Ukraine on how to hurt Russia the most so the next country invaded isn't Poland or Latvia or Lithuania.
That's my concrete strategic advice. - So I've been so busy running all over this place and I'm not like caught up to date.
So I saw the map you showed me.
What is the latest?
I think your listeners would be interested to hear this.
It seems like a full-fledged invasion.
So most commentators were expecting a small incremental increase beyond Donetsk and Luhansk in the east.
That's not what happened.
For some reason this man has gone Totally for a full bore invasion, strategic bombers, strike attack aircraft taking out Ukrainian runways.
This shows you the dementia of the psycho that's running the Kremlin.
He has taken Chernobyl, which I understand is a Soviet Symbol.
But it's also a radioactive hunk of concrete.
So capturing Chernobyl is not exactly strategic.
It's kind of mythical, but it's not strategic.
So no, this is a full-scale invasion.
So is there kinetic backlash from the Ukrainians?
Oh yes, oh yes.
But they've taken out air defense capabilities.
They have struck a lot of the strike helicopters on the ground.
It looks like they were taken by surprise.
But you've got to remember, 8 million Ukrainians were murdered by Stalin.
They fought the communists in the forests for over a decade, so this is going to get ugly.
In the streets, in the forests, the Ukrainians will fight.
So this is just the very beginning?
Oh, just the very beginning.
He took Ukraine sort of by surprise, is that fair?
As far as how west he's gone...
Yes, how west he has gone is not what they expect.
I don't think anybody expected that.
But of course, he said he wants the Soviet Union back.
He can't reconstitute it because he has the GDP of California, but he's going to do as much as he can.
So that is... I think it's reasonable.
I guess my question or concern, and again, I'm not an expert on this and I don't think very deeply about it, is what would prevent just us supplying munitions from escalating into then we have to then supply people.
Right.
It's our decision, right?
It's our decision.
We say Article 5 does not apply to non-NATO members.
So the common defence Article 5 of the... Mutual defence, yeah.
Doesn't apply to non-NATO nations, but there's nothing to stop us.
If we can give What was it?
85 billion dollars of worth to the Taliban.
Perhaps the Ukrainians are a little bit more deserving than that.
Okay, let's move on.
We are at CPAC.
18,000 people expected here.
It is the biggest conservative event in the world.
What are you expecting?
What is your message to the next generation?
Give us Charlie Kirk's elevator pitch.
I spoke earlier and I said that, look, I want to win, but not just win politically, I want to win the civilization back.
Yes.
And I want to play to win.
And I think we have to frame it in those terms.
What are we not doing that needs to start in terms of taking the culture and the civilization back?
Yeah, I think we're actually beginning to go in the right direction of creating our own content.
Your radio show is playing a big part of that.
Moms and dads showing up to school boards across the country, educating our own children, homeschooling on the increase.
We now have Rumble.
We are kind of truth social.
We have Getter.
We have all these other kind of alternatives.
What I was really trying to get people to think, though, is a mindset shift, which is what does success look like?
Success looks like, and I said this, we want to execute, metaphorically execute an extinction event, a political extinction event of the woke left the same way that FDR was able to do that to the Republicans in the 1930s.
What are the metrics for that?
When do we know that's beginning to happen?
I think when being woke is as unpopular as being a KKK member in the 1990s.
And that's what it is.
It's a moral equivalent.
They might still exist, but they'll be in the hinterlands and no one will take them seriously.
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No.
Okay, Mike's up.
No.
Hungry.
Absolutely.
No, everything's so... Oh, Matt!
The boil stuff.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is an open spot.
Eat.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, that is... Okay, I'm going to use Cut 2, guys, all right?
You're going to come in with it or tee it up?
No, hang on.
Let me... I'll tee it up, okay?
Okay.
Got titles for Roberts or Kirk?
Yeah, Kirk.
Understanding why Ukraine matters.
Then...
Yeah.
For... Kevin.
Kevin.
1776 and the war in Europe.
Yeah.
And Biden's war in Europe.
Just about 30 seconds.
Oh wow, yes.
This is E, right?
This is E.
Yes, correct.
This.
Oh, can you come in with the audio for MyPillow?
MyPillow audio.
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that the FBI is even sniffing Yeah.
But what if somebody came in and said, you know what?
We are gonna Subpoena all his account records and this and that and then all of a sudden we make the news.
So it's more of a reputation risk.
That is the Senior Vice President of Heartland Financial in Minnesota that shot down nine of Mike Lindell's bank accounts.
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Because he's a criminal?
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You know the left is crazy, right?
I mean, they're just insane.
Just how insane are they?
Women and children are hiding in the subway in Kiev.
Ukraine, a free nation, is being raped by Russia right now.
And what is Biden's climate czar worried about?
Okay, sit down before we play this.
This is John Kerry and his priorities when it comes to World War Three.
Play cut.
I hope diplomacy will win, but massive emissions consequences to the war.
But equally importantly, you're going to lose people's focus.
You're going to lose certainly big country attention because they will be diverted.
And I think it could have a damaging impact.
So, you know, I think hopefully President Putin would realize Bombs are falling.
northern part of his country, they used to live on 66% of a nation that was over frozen land.
Now it's thawing.
And his infrastructure is at risk.
And the people of Russia are at risk.
And so I hope President Putin will help us to stay on track with respect to what we need to do for the climate.
Bombs are falling.
Children being killed.
Young men taking up arms for their liberty.
And John Kerry's priority is that the world will be distracted.
from the climate agenda as he gets on his private jets and that is how insane the left has become but don't worry we're here we are recharging our batteries at CPAC 2022 in Florida no longer in the swamp we're going to have match lamp with us we're going to have Matt Boyle, Kurt Schlichter, Mark Lauder, Amanda Milius So many names, great patriots.
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This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
So far, every Western democracy is standing in solidarity opposing Putin, with the possible exception of the Republican Party, especially their dear leader, former president, super callous, fragile, racist, sexist Nazi POTUS.
So weird, because when I was in the White House, I remember us killing 200 Russians in Syria and making us energy independent and thus really hurting Vlad the Impaler.
But hey, it's Colbert and he's just...
Oh, I don't know what he is, deranged.
We are back broadcasting from Radio Row at CPAC, the biggest conservative convocation in the world.
And we have with us none other than the Washington Bureau Chief of the most influential conservative website.
It's Breitbart.com and he's Matt Boyle.
Why are the left always so... I mean, like Colbert and all these late... Why are they always so sour?
They're just not funny anymore.
It's not just the left.
It's the globalist establishment Republicans too.
By the way, I would point out there have been four presidents in this century so far.
Three of them have overseen and tolerated Russian aggression and incursion into sovereign nations.
They are George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Joe Biden.
The one president who didn't tolerate this type of behavior, and had no wars on his watch, is Donald J. Trump.
But we were told he was a warmonger, Matt.
This is a globalism problem.
We were told he was a warmonger, Matt.
They're 100% wrong about Donald Trump.
The fact of the matter is that this is, what you are seeing right now, is a symptom of the disease of globalism on the world stage.
That is what is going on in Russia and Ukraine right now.
And the cure is America first.
And, frankly, Mitt Romney last night in a statement in which he blasted the Russians, and Romney has been over the course of his career speaking out about this quite a bit, but he also What?
America first what he blamed America first in his statement he said that he blamed first Obama then America first and now Biden for creating this environment he's so wrong it's not even funny this is a disease of globalism it happened under Bush happened under Obama it's happening under Biden there's only one president this century where this has not happened and that's under Donald Trump America first versus globalism It's a nice way of phrasing it.
Okay, we are here.
We're at CPAC.
He's got the vaunted speaker badge, not just the media badge.
Matt Boyle, what are you expecting?
Highlights, of course, President Trump will be here on Saturday.
Where is the MAGA movement moving?
I can't...
I've had a dozen people come up to me saying, I'm running for Congress, here's my business card.
New faces, not swamp creatures.
Is this an exciting time to be a conservative, Matt?
I think so, Dr. Gorka.
And I think that the cool thing that you're seeing on display here, unlike previous CPACs, is the war's been won inside the movement, inside the party.
You mean against the rhinos?
Against the rhinos.
Against the rhinos for the heart and soul and the direction of the Republican Party by Trump and his allies.
People that want to see Republicans fight the culture wars.
Go in and battle the things like the radical transgender insanity.
Battle things like the open borders policies.
Battle things like the rising crime wave.
Instead of just talking about tax cuts and healthcare.
Those things are important too, don't get me wrong.
But the fact of the matter is that the Republican Party is a very different party today.
So you're saying on the big muscle movement issues, the big issues, it's over.
We've won.
It's this movement and this party are united.
OK.
Then what do we do in terms of the mechanics?
You know the swamp better than anyone.
Let's say that there's a trouncing.
There truly is a wave of Republicans.
We take the House massive majority.
Nancy's out.
We pick a new speaker.
But there's the mechanics of the swamp.
You know, there's the super PACs, the special interests.
A lot of people have issues with Kevin McCarthy, who I think My personal opinion, since he's been on the show more than once, is a good guy, but sways something.
He's getting there.
He's getting there.
MTG's helping him.
He's better than Paul Ryan.
No doubt about that.
But that's not a metric for me.
So what happens if there's this massive result in November?
Can the good guys grab the reins of the horse?
Well, that's yet to be seen.
That's going to be the question.
Right.
So, I mean, we're heading right now into the primary season of the midterm elections.
On Tuesday, voters in Texas are going to decide the direction of their party.
So we're going to see a whole bunch of things in Texas.
There's a bunch of different primaries.
Governor Abbott's facing his own primaries.
He's going to avoid that and all that kind of stuff.
So, there's a bunch of congressional races we're watching, so we'll see how that plays out.
Then two months later, on May 3rd, you're going to see Ohio go.
And then over the course of May, June, and then later in August, you're going to see the rest of these really play out across America.
So as these primaries play out, we're going to see the direction that the public wants to go.
By and large, I think you're going to see people that are in line with President Trump's worldview winning Republican primaries across the board.
And without a doubt, the kingmaker is President Trump.
Correct.
And so then, once they get into power, assuming they win their general elections later in November, so that's the big question.
So A, do the Republicans take the majority back in the House?
I think that one is looking pretty good for the Republicans.
As for the Senate, it's a little bit tougher, but I think it's also looking pretty good for the Republicans.
So it's a tougher map, but doable.
And given the environment, it looks okay.
Then once they get there, what do they do with said power when they get there?
And can you hold them accountable to that?
We regularly have Matt Gaetz and MTG together on the show.
We call it America First Strategy Session.
And what Matt's saying is, we have to turn, when we win the House, we have to turn every committee into a serious investigatory committee for that sector.
Can you imagine the GOP actually getting serious about congressional oversight, Matt Boyle?
Well, I certainly hope that's what they're going to do.
I think Congressman Gates is 100% right about this.
But I think that in addition to the oversight stuff, and I'm 100% on board with that, don't get me wrong.
I mean, that's what I did during the Obama administration.
I broke tons of stories on that front.
But what they need to do is they need to pursue Yes.
to see victories on issues, on the culture war issues.
Yes.
They need to do things like defund transgenderism nonsense, right?
They need to force Biden's hand in the spending bill fights.
They need to be smart about it, and they need to really roll the Democrats and Biden.
And I think they can do it if they actually hold it together and fight, especially on things that the public is with them on, on very popular stuff.
And by the way, I would point you to no further than, I don't know if you've seen this, this document that Senator Rick Scott from here in Florida put out earlier this week.
He's the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, but he put this out through his own campaign.
It's a 60-page plan.
He calls it a plan to rescue America.
There's a lot of really awesome stuff in there.
Is it Breitbartian?
Is it cultural?
Would Andrew like it?
I think Andrew would like it a lot.
Like, among other things, he says, you know, obviously we need to finish the border wall, but he says we should name the border wall after President Trump.
Is it going to be gold?
We're going to paint it gold?
As for the transgender stuff, he says that we can't have transgenders in women's sports.
Also says that the goal is going to be that the Republicans will ban any doctors from performing any gender altering surgeries on any child.
Fabulous.
Like, on any child.
Now, an adult, different story, okay, but on children, ban it.
But again, the fact that they're even addressing this stuff, and there's so many other things like that in this plan, that I think it's a big deal that the Republicans are leaning in on this.
Thanks for that.
I'm going to check it out.
We mentioned Andrew's name.
Talk to us about what Breitbart's doing for the anniversary of his loss.
Talk to us about it for a couple of minutes.
Yeah, so Andrew Breitbart had 10 years as of this coming Tuesday.
Unbelievable.
Passed away, yeah.
I mean the guy, so we just did a big panel earlier this morning here at CPAC.
Me and I think you just had on Charlie Kirk.
Yes.
Charlie Kirk was on the panel and James O'Keefe and Larry O'Connor, right?
And we talked a lot about what Andrew was like as a person because three of us were very good friends with him.
Charlie didn't know him yet, but three of us were very good friends with Andrew.
He was, in addition to being a real fighter out there, that's what everybody remembers about him, he was a real funny guy.
He was a real personable character.
Quirky sense of humor.
Yeah, he was a lot of fun to be around.
He was the life of the party wherever he was.
And he would be happy now with America First and MAGA, right?
Absolutely.
Super excited.
He would be in his glory right now.
And that was the main point that I made at the end of the panel was, you know, Andrew Breitbart, ten years later, is still winning the war.
Yes!
So he understood that we were in a war, he laid out the stakes, he laid out the two different sides of it, and then he taught us how to fight it, and guess what?
Ten years later, He's winning the war.
And just like Vladimir Putin in Ukraine, Andrew's greatest lesson is you stand up to the bullies.
Whether it was the swamp, the mainstream legacy media, that's what drove Andrew.
Never let a bully get away with it.
He is the Washington Bureau Chief.
Breitbart.com is the website.
Bookmark it today.
Check it out every morning, every evening.
Anything special coming out for Breitbart on the anniversary of Andrew's loss?
We got some big stuff coming, so make sure you check out All right, can't wait.
He is Matt Boyle.
Thank you for joining us.
He is smiling down on us right now, Andrew.
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You were a genius with social media.
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Hey, Jake.
Uh-huh.
You're welcome.
Thank you, buddy.
Well, just give me a card because I'm back-to-back booked.
Do you have a card?
Yeah, nobody can fit.
Just put it somewhere else.
Thanks.
Thank you.
Thank you, guys.
Thanks, Jeff.
Three minutes.
Sorry?
Oh, good.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
Cut!
Colonel Kay.
All they gotta do is play the left media and that's propaganda for the Russians.
They're like, yeah, we should take that over.
There he is.
All they gotta do is play the left media and that's enough propaganda for the Russians.
They're like, "Yeah, we should take that over." There he is.
Da da da da da.
Okay.
Nice.
How's it going?
Insane.
Just over two minutes.
It's getting nice and close.
Oh, I can imagine.
Of course, the family mom surgery thing.
That was yesterday, right?
Yeah, she's a couple days.
Let's see.
She won't talk to me very long, says my dad.
That is so my mom.
So what's the latest?
They went in, undid the colostomy that she had, and took out two...
The End
World War III Haggis or World War 3?
You choose.
I'm going to go with World War 3.
It's more appealing.
Holy cow.
40 seconds.
I'm going to use Cut 4, but I'm going to do Israel first.
Okay.
Israel?
Cut 4.
Copy that.
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In the break we were discussing, should we discuss Haggis or World War III?
And the choice was?
World War III because it's more appealing than Haggis.
I love Haggis and he's like a quarter Scottish.
I reject my Scottish heritage wholeheartedly.
Ouch.
I reject my German heritage.
Claymore's yes, Haggis no.
Exactly.
And now some people think you're talking about the minds, but we know you're talking about the swords.
Thank you.
A little footnote there, yes.
Exactly.
The minds are cool too.
See, it's nice I can be on a show where people get me.
Where I'm really understood.
It's dangerous because usually you're three and a half thousand miles away by Skype, but you're actually next to me, Gorka and Schlicht.
And you feel the energy.
The same room.
Boom!
Okay, he is the author of the Kelly Turnbull series of books.
Number six is out, right?
The split?
It is, but you can now pre-order.
We will be back.
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It is now for pre-order.
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You know, wink, wink, nod, nod.
I made sure he could get it under the radar there.
But before that, the 21 lies about you and Donald Trump.
Yes.
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OK, let's talk.
You have been rather vociferous of late on Twitter, given that Biden has just thrown away Europe.
I'm going to give you my two cents on what, if we had any testicles in the West, what we should do, which is not intervention, because that's not what America First is.
But here are the two things that NATO, if they were a leader, Could actually do.
Number one, lethal aid.
Munitions, weapons so the Ukrainians can fight for themselves.
And also just intel.
We dominate SIGINT satellite imagery.
Give the Ukrainians the intel they need to make the Russians hurt.
What do you say to that?
Add anything?
What's your take in the last 24 hours?
I think those are great ideas and I wholeheartedly support them.
The Ukrainians are tough little guys who will fight.
Who hate Russians.
Oh they hate Russians.
Oh man.
We went back there and the first time we went was in 98 and we went back to train and we thought they were all going to be unattractive babushkas.
That was wrong!
Tell us about your experience with the Ukrainians.
Well, I went four times, and we would train them usually out in Lviv.
Like small unit tactics or what?
Mostly peacekeeping operations, but that encompassed some small unit tactics.
I said, why don't we teach them how to use anti-tank missiles, because I think that would come in handy.
That might be useful.
They didn't listen.
No one listened.
But when we were in the Trump White House, that's what we sent.
Not blankets.
Did you hear the Germans sent 5,000 helmets?
That great offensive weapon, used German helmets, with a pickle haub on top.
A pickle haub, nice!
You know, when I was in Germany at the fall of the Iron Curtain, 30 some years ago, they had what, like 25 divisions?
And they were real... The Bundeswehr knew it's business.
Great tank, the Leopard tank.
And now it is a shadow of itself.
And they don't care.
Look, if we want to really mess with Putin, yeah, lethal aid... So you're Secretary General of NATO now, go for it.
Secretary General, I may know.
You've got to speak in a silly accent, but go ahead.
Oh boy.
I think really it's the American president who has a choice, and that is make us an energy superpower again.
Bingo.
That is the most important thing we can do, is to make the... Because that hurts Putin.
Yeah!
$100 a barrel of oil?
Already.
Are you kidding me?
Already.
All right, what else?
What else?
What can we do?
So, give them their weapons they can protect themselves.
Yes.
Give them intel.
Feed them intel.
And energy.
Look, can I just, for the listeners who are not familiar with some of the economics in Europe.
So, again, I've got to say this because this is mind-numbing when I heard it.
The environmentalists control the energy sector in the German government.
They've shut down half of their nuclear power plants.
They're going to shut down the other half in the next 12 months.
Already, already, Germany, before the invasion, was buying 30% of its gas from Russia.
30 percent, Kurt!
It's a joke!
How can you be an ally of America when you're buying 30 percent of your gas from Russia?
Well, I think you can't be, and I think that's the point.
Right.
Look, if these guys cared about Putin, they would do things that would lead to Do you think Joe Biden will lift any of the restrictions on American energy?
He will not because his priority, and you can tell because he's prioritized it, is making sacrifices to the angry weather gods.
No, AOC.
You mean AOC?
Yes.
Okay, let's talk about where we are right now.
We're talking to Colonel Schlichter, Colonel Kurt Schlichter, follow him at Kurt Schlichter, Senior Contributor.
Senior Columnist.
Columnist.
He is a Senior Columnist at Townhall.com.
His books are the Ted Turndall Series.
Talk to us about CPAC, what it means to you, and how it ties into your forthcoming book from Regnery.
Well, I enjoy CPAC because, of course, I live in the far side of the country, and I don't get to see people face-to-face like you, Dr. Gorka, except once or twice a year.
So, to me, this is coming back and re-establishing those connections.
It's also telling a lot of people about We'll Be Back, The Fall and Rise of America.
So explain, what's the book about?
It is about how we could fall.
How is America going to change?
So it's a warning?
It is a warning, but it's also a message of hope.
And look, I talk a lot about Romans in it.
And you know the Romans changed at least two or three times.
Kingdom to Republic, Republic to Empire, Empire to whatever the hell that was.
But they were always recognizably Roman.
So when a civilization falls, it can look the same, but it changes in fundamental ways.
And I think that's what we're looking at here.
How close are we?
How worried are you with that first part, the fall part, when it comes to America?
I am worried in the same way I'd be about swimming with sharks.
I'm not afraid of sharks, but I respect them.
I think there's a possibility that things will happen that will change the country in fundamental ways.
Although people will still recognize it as America, it won't be the America you and I recognize.
But to stop that, everyone who listens to this show, everyone who reads your columns in your books, everyone, Kurt, has a role to play, don't they?
They sure do.
Look, we can't win.
And the answer's all there.
The answer is our Constitution.
We'll go back to that.
The manual for freedom.
It's right there!
The FM for freedom.
Exactly!
The FM for freedom.
FM 1-1.
There's no secret to what we need to do for America.
The Constitution told us.
But we need to do it.
And we need to restore within our garbage ruling class a respect for the fundamentals of America.
Which includes self-determination, because they are not for self-determination, they are for a ruling class determination.
People who drive trucks or sweat when they work, they shouldn't have a voice in their own destiny.
But how ironic, and we've only got a few seconds left, how ironic is it that the left, the champion of the workers, now hates workers like truck drivers?
It's a little piquant, isn't it?
Yeah, it is amusing, but it's not surprising to those of us who've watched them.
It has become a party of the metropolitan elites, has it not?
Yes, it has.
And that's going to be a problem because you can't grow enough kale in Brooklyn to feed all the pinkos.
And especially if you're AOC and you don't realize that vegetables actually grow in dirt and you're shook when you see that.
Thank you, Kurt.
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Yeah, till Sunday.
Okay, excellent.
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Make sure you watch my panel.
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We need to get you on as a guest.
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We have one of the guests next week.
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He was fine.
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Transcription by CastingWords With the deepest voice in talk radio, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Eighteen thousand people here.
So when you have a target of opportunity, just like those Ukrainians who downed that Russian jet, you go for it!
That's what we do here at CPAC.
And I'm delighted because, you know, I have a job because of a tall guy called Phil Boyce, who, I don't know, maybe he's taller than me.
That's classified, I can't tell you.
Who, four years ago, Four years ago, I was at my publisher's 75th anniversary party, Regnery, because Salem owns Regnery, the finest conservative book publishers in the world.
And he's standing there at the front door.
And I don't know him.
And he looks at me and he says, have you ever thought of doing radio?
And I thought, is this guy joking?
Is he pulling my chain?
So I kind of humoured him and said, yeah, sure, I'd love to.
I love talk radio.
So he gives me his card.
Which I looked down on.
Oh, Senior Vice President of Talk Radio for Salem.
Oh, thank you!
And that is how it all began.
And how I auditioned, covering for Dennis Prager.
And then finally was given a national show myself.
So God bless you, Phil Boyce!
Everybody who gave me that opportunity.
Ed, you know who you are.
Ed Atzinger.
And of course, the great Dave Santrella.
Tom Trattup as well.
All of those good guys.
And so when Phil Boyce bugs me for about a month.
Hey, there's this new guy.
He's called Jackson.
And he's great, and we've hired him for our podcast, and he filled in for Larry when he did that thing, you know, just running for governor of California.
Oh my gosh, Tom Homan, troublemaker.
And now he's standing next to me, and so he said, well, come on the show, my man!
Carl Jackson, welcome to American First.
Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
It's an honor to be on your program.
So how the heck did you go from somebody I've never heard of to hosting for the great Larry Elder?
You know what?
I've got to tell you, it's been a blessing from God.
I am from AM 950, the answer, Orlando, locally here.
Dennis Prager.
I invited Dennis Prager onto my program.
And then he was impressed with me.
He invited me to fill in for him.
And then I filled in several times throughout the year.
And when Larry Elder announced that he was going to be running, I got a call from this guy that you just mentioned named Phil Boyce.
And he said, I think you're the guy to step in for Larry Elder.
Honestly, it's been a dream come true.
It's been absolutely unreal.
I mean, to be sitting here next to you right now.
Pretty amazing.
Well, look, Phil Boyce, for those who don't know the industry, this is the guy who... Am I talking out of school?
Tough.
Sorry, Phil.
Discovered people like, oh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin.
Every time you listen to Mark and you hear that phrase, from an undisclosed location in a deep, deep, deep bunker, guess who wrote that?
Phil Boyce wrote that, because he is the master.
Okay.
Tell us your story, because I hear you've got an amazing life story.
So, you are Guest hosting for people like Larry Elder.
You're on the Salem Podcast Network.
Who is Carl Jackson?
Alright, so Carl Jackson is just a normal working class guy.
Honestly, that's who I am.
I'm a guy that, when Barack Obama got into office, I just wanted to do something.
I wanted to say something.
As a young kid, I had gotten in trouble with the law.
I had gotten arrested a couple of times.
I lived a life of sin, basically.
Just doing a lot of stupid stuff, but I had a brain on my shoulder.
God saved me.
God cleaned me up.
God changed me.
And then I started getting interested in politics.
I didn't care about politics before that.
I worked as a janitor.
I worked cleaning carpets.
I would listen to this guy Rush Limbaugh.
I had no idea Who he was, and I started listening to conservative talk radio, Christian radio, had no idea who the guy was until I went to a family or friend's barbecue, whatever, and they were like, this racist Rush Limbaugh, and I'm like, are you talking, the guy that I've been listening to?
So God started transforming my thinking politically, spiritually, walked into the local Orlando station, Christopher Hart of American Adversaries gave me an opportunity to start there.
Eight, nine years later, here I am sitting with Dr. Gorka.
It's just, it's phenomenal.
Well, that's a beautiful story.
You know, you found God.
You found a new life.
Was there somebody beyond Rush?
Who helped you on that journey?
You know what?
Okay, so I would say there were several people.
Larry Elder, I read a book of his.
I walked into a local mall here in Central Florida, and I saw a book titled, Stupid Black Men.
Now, I had become a conservative, but because of my religious beliefs at the time, it was abortion initially that got me fired up, and I started listening to politics a little more, so I came at it from a spiritual worldview first.
And then, I saw this book, I picked up this book.
I was like, who?
What kind of fool would call a title of a book, Stupid Black Man?
So I was upset to pick up his book.
I pick up his book, Dr. Gorka, and I start flipping through it and I start reading it.
And I got so pissed, if I could say the word.
And who wrote it?
Because of the history.
Larry Elder.
All right.
God bless you.
God bless you.
You can listen to Carl on the Salem Podcast Network.
Where else can they find you?
They can find me on Facebook, Carl Jackson Radio, anywhere podcasts are found, YouTube, Rumble, you name it.
Twitter and Parler at Carl Jackson.
God bless and welcome.
Welcome to the Salem Family.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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First time on the show, I think.
First time on the show?
That's right, thank you, yes.
Can you talk to us about why you exist as an organization, your family's history, and why people need to wake up To who they're giving money to, Rebecca?
That is a great question.
An honor to be here with you, Dr. Borka.
Thank you.
In 2008, I had a conversation with my father.
He said to me, Rebecca, what do you know much about the AARP?
Do you recognize that they're backing a lot of policies that are not in line with the values that we hold dear?
And I did some really good research into it and thought, my gosh, this is an organization that has a pretty magazine and real good benefits, but they're fighting on the other side.
They're not representing what we stand for.
And it was in 08 when we formed AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens.
So you and your dad said enough is enough.
We did.
Formed a new organization.
Tell us about how you have grown incredibly, how many members you have and what the benefits of AMAC are.
Yeah, in 2008.
This is pre-Obama.
But we recognized that there was something strange happening in America and that there was almost like a new social order that was being rolled in.
Obamacare, everything else.
Absolutely.
And AMAC members recognized that we were not shy about who we are and what we stand for.
We do a tremendous amount of work.
That's incredible.
through our advocacy arm AMAC Action, we've got a tremendous amount of benefits, money-saving benefits, everything from hotels and motels.
But I think the real reason why people join is because they have a voice in Washington.
We're 2.4 million active dues-paying members.
And what we do is we bring their voice to Washington.
That's incredible.
Say that again for our listeners.
2.4 million Americans.
And it's not just...
Let's start with the fact, A, the membership is incredible.
When I first did the commercials for you, I couldn't believe how cheap the membership was.
And then the benefits you accrue as a member of AMAX.
So talk about the cost of membership and what your members get, Rebecca.
Wonderful.
$16 a year.
That's insane.
And what you get is you get a voice in Washington.
That's like two Starbucks cappuccinos and you're done.
That's right.
You're done.
Two coffees.
The other thing too, AMAC.us and the AMAC News app.
This is an area where we heavily invested in 2021.
We really did invest heavily in our news analysis and opinion division.
We brought on about 30 writers with original content that we're putting out.
And the reason why that's so important is we see mainstream media, they're not delivering the message, the truth.
And people are not really getting all the right news.
So go to AMAC.us to learn more.
And you'll, you know, it's a beautiful thing.
Members are tuning into AMAC to find out what's happening.
I used to have a promo code with you guys.
We're going to have to check that out.
But amac.us, if you call them up, use my name, you might still get that promo code.
We'll have to see if it's still active.
But I just crossed out Rubicon, guys.
I'm 51 years old!
How did that happen?
That's insanity!
Let me do a little bit of a confession here in front of all of our listeners.
Until I started doing a little bit of research myself, like you did for your late, dearly departed father, I had no idea what AARP was funding.
I mean, really, I think most Americans have no idea how radically left-wing this organization is.
They don't.
An example is in 08.
They had given him a Man of the Year award.
They honoured Harry Belafonte after he was just shaking hands with Chavez, saying that George W. was the greatest terrorist in the nation.
And a socialist is a good guy.
A socialist dictator like Chavez is AARP's role model.
That's exactly right.
When people begin to, when you really peel back the onion and you see how much money they stood to earn with the new Obama care and how that impacted Medicare and what that would mean for their pocket, we recognize that people need to know the truth and that's what we're doing.
Membership also includes a print magazine, a bi-monthly magazine, which we're so proud of.
Hard copy?
I like that.
I'm old school.
Your colleague is leaning over the fence here.
We'll send you the video.
Don't worry, Alyssa.
We'll get you the video, guys.
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The End
This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Hey, I may be in Orlando, but we have members of the team back in the swamp.
John, are you there?
I am here.
Where did those two hours go?
That's insanity!
They've flown by as it flurries here in the swamp.
I think it moves a little bit more slowly in the swamp.
You are giving a tally every day of the countdown.
How many days do we have left until the glorious midterms?
257 days until the midterm elections.
257 days and our new motto, our new motto right now is you can take back the civilization.
Charlie Kirk is right.
It's not just about the Republic.
It's not just about the midterms.
It is about the nation and the nation as part of a civilization.
Let's do it together.
I want to ask you guys.
You may not be at CPAC.
You can watch it all live.
You can stream it.
You can go to, I think it's like cpac.org.
You can find it online.
Watch the speeches.
I'll be speaking from the main stage Saturday just before the president.
But then, here's the big question for all of you.
What are you going to do to be part of it?
Because shouldn't we all take back America?
Do any of us get to just sit back and be bystanders or observers?
No.
We need to come together and show the world that 74 million Americans are not afraid.
That we can do it together.
That the radical minority is that.
A minority.
You know they're the loudest, but they don't represent America.
We have millions of people who are misguided, who listen to CNN or NPR and read the New York Times, but they're not evil radicals.
The evil radicals are a minority.
And we can create what Charlie could call it, I mean he's such a bright guy, an extinction level event for that ideology.
And you must be a part of that.
So today, here is my request to you live from CPAC.
Decide what your role is going to be.
You know, your area of specialty, as the military says, your MOS.
Are you going to support candidates, not just with a checkbook, but be active, knocking on doors?
Are you going to campaign for them?
Are you going to be a local candidate?
You can start modest, it's fine.
Run for the local library council.
Run for the local school board, because guess what?
That's what the left did.
They understood.
All politics is local.
And they did it.
For 60 years they planned, they engaged, they implemented.
Now we're waking up.
The mama bears of Virginia are waking up.
And we need to do that across the nation.
So guys, double down.
Make a decision what you're going to do.
Send yourself some targets.
And let's take back America together.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Check me out on all the social media platforms.
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Be on those platforms yourself.
Back after these messages.
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Back after these messages.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You're listening to Dr. Sebastian Gorka, a man who's taken down Eastern European governments with just the sound of his voice.
I don't invade them, I just broadcast to them.
And that voice, let's get him on the camera.
It's been far too long.
The man with the second coolest voice in conservative politics is Mark Lotta, a good friend of America First.
We are so excited to reconnect.
How long has it been since you've been on the show?
My colleagues say it may have been a year.
It's been a year.
I left DC the day after the inauguration.
You wise man.
You wise man.
Came to Florida for a job and I couldn't even turn on cable news or open my social media without getting frustrated.
And I finally, I'm over it.
I gotta come back.
I gotta get back in the fight.
The fight's too important.
Did you hear this?
Did you hear this?
Mark Lodder from the Trump administration escaped the swamp, found his sanity on the edge of the golf course, and now America is calling.
So what are you doing now?
What's the decision?
Tell us about the new Mark Lodder mission.
So I just started, about three weeks ago, Chief Communications Officer with the America First Policy Institute.
So that's the think tank for the MAGA guys.
That's the think tank.
They took the best and the brightest from the White House, the administration, and... And not all of them.
Not all of them.
Some of them have national radio shows and are too busy.
Correct.
And, well, clearly, you know, you could be a fellow.
Who is this guy?
You could be a fellow.
OK, senior fellow, please.
Senior fellow, yes.
Because DC is full of them.
I mean, there are no fellows.
It's funny how everybody's AC.
Where are the fellows?
Because I'm in Washington, D.C.
Okay, so let's talk about the mission of the Institute.
Let's talk about the next year.
It's a midterm year.
We are at CPAC, 18,000 people.
This is the biggest event of its kind, not in America, in the world.
The question I ask all of the MAGA regulars on my show, whether it's Matt Gaetz, whether it's Jim Jordan, whether it's MTG, is where are we?
To use an apt Cold War phrase.
Where are we in the correlation of forces, in the balance of power between the rhino America last fake conservatives and the new generation of true conservatives that love America?
Where are we at?
Are we winning?
How long is it going to take?
What are your expectations for the midterm?
Give us Mark Lodder's take.
I think we're winning.
And I actually think it's going to be the work of the America First Policy Institute that's going to help bring that together.
Because as you and I both know, the president always said it wasn't a campaign, it was a movement.
Yes.
And when I look at it, I go back to 1980.
You know, they were called Reagan Democrats.
They're now MAGA, but they were Reagan Democrats.
They re-elected him in 84, held their nose, but kept the good times rolling in 88.
But then a guy came along and said, I'll feel your pain.
And they all just jumped ship.
So they voted for the man.
They liked the results.
But then when someone else came along and felt more passionate, that's because they weren't committed to the mission.
That's because we didn't bring them in.
Has that changed in recent years?
Has that commitment to America first?
Because, look, I've told this story a hundred times on the show.
Flying on Air Force One to Youngstown, Ohio, which is the Rust Belt, with the President, driving in a convoy to the stadium.
Seeing shut down Steel Mill after shut down Steel Mill.
Get to the stadium.
The boss is in the back.
I'm doing selfies with the crowd.
And I know everybody in that stadium, Mark, everyone, was a Democrat.
Their dad, their granddad were Democrats.
When he came out on stage with Melania, he couldn't, you've seen this a million times, he couldn't give his speech.
Because these former Democrats were screaming, "USA, USA drain the swamp." So how do we get those people back?
How do we build on that MAGA base?
And what do you think of the establishment vice-rhino conflict after the midterms?
Well, so I think if we can get everybody on the policies, then we start to build the movement long term.
Because there's going to be a time, not just in 2022 where it's absolutely true, but, flash forward, we don't know 24, we don't know 26, we don't know 28.
There will be a time in our future where President Trump's name is not on the ballot.
Whaaat?
How did he get a job at the America First Institute?
So the way we keep the movement going is to fight for the things he fought for.
So here's my big issue, and take this to your buddies, Stephen Miller and everybody else, because now you've got a place to hang your hat, now you've got a think tank.
We haven't done enough of the heavy lifting when it comes to filling out MAGA, right?
We know America first, the economy, secure the border, kill bad guys like ISIS, which is, yeah, I mean, that's how we won an election.
That's how we governed.
But we need to fill in more of the fillings of the layer cake.
And that's what we're doing.
So we have 21 policy centers, all led by former top people in the White House, in the administration.
Associated with the Institute?
That's all within the Institute.
Wow.
21 policy centers.
We have it covering faith and families, immigration, obviously foreign policy, the economy, but just the Center for the American Worker.
So we have all of the, and then we're putting the white papers together, not the campaign talking points.
Right, right, right.
Oh my gosh!
But the heavy lifting that goes behind it, because as you and I both know here at CPAC, I mean, I've been approached by 15 people today who are running for office.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't get off the chair without somebody giving me a hit that I'm running for Congress.
When they ask how I can help, I'm like, go to our website.
Look at those white papers.
Study the issues.
Make that part of your America First agenda.
And then when we have 50, 60, 80 new freshmen coming to Congress next year, they're going to be on the America First agenda.
So here's the next so what question.
I think this is happening because we're seeing amazing primary candidates, real, you know, MAGA, not PAC-funded, super PAC-funded, but real, you know, former cops, truck drivers, real Americans.
It's super exciting.
Okay, Mark.
We have that massive victory.
Nancy's gavel is ripped from her hand.
Kevin maybe takes over.
We'll see.
What about the rest of the swamp?
Because you know as well as I do, Mike, come on, you've paid the price at times.
The fake Republicans like Mitt Romney, who last night, after the invasion of Russia, attacked America First, said that this is in part to blame because of America First.
What do we do?
The levers of power in many cases are still tied to vested interests.
So give us a scenario for what happens after the midterm sweep.
Well, I think then once we show how successful we are, that will start to grow.
And then you will see not just the presidential election in 24, but you will see another slate of candidates and Congress people running on the America First agenda.
And you will see it again in 26 and 28.
And I'm not saying it's going to take eight years, but the more and more we show success, you're either going to get on board or you're going to get under the, or you'll be under them.
Follow him right now.
Mark with a C for some reason.
Mark underscore Lotta.
He just said he's gonna read lots of liners for me while we're here at CPAC because...
Yeah, his voice is pretty cool.
The organization is the America First Policy Institute.
What's the website?
AmericaFirstPolicy.com.
AmericaFirstPolicy.com.
Okay.
Let's talk about what your expectations are here.
The boss is coming.
I'm going to speak main stage Saturday afternoon.
He's going to be, I think, 6 p.m.
maybe Saturday afternoon.
I think it sounds right, yeah.
What message would you like to hear?
We're not giving advice to our boss.
whether it's the school boards, whether it's CRT, whether it's Ukraine.
What is the message that you expect?
Let's just say you expect to have from CPAC, from people like the president.
The thing I would love to see is looking forward, because we obviously know the issues that have permeated and occurred in the past.
But this is the army.
No, this is it.
This is the army.
And so I want that army to go out there full of energy, but also full of the mission that, by the way, the re-election in 24 starts in 22.
Yes.
We have to- It's already started.
Correct.
We have to take that.
And guys, let me be very clear to all of you.
He is running.
This is not a question.
OK?
President Trump, when I went to see him last year in New York, I had a 95% certitude that he's running.
Guess what?
After I went to see him, it's a 99.9%.
There's only one thing that could stop President Trump from running.
If we don't take the House and the Senate.
Why?
Because we know, we know, that if we don't, it's going to be impeachment round 12.
You know, in the first week of a Trump presidency in a second term.
So guess what?
It's up to us.
It's up to us to make sure the House and the Senate are resounding victories.
What is your message, Mark?
You know, given what happened in the last election, all the voter fraud in the last 30 seconds, what is your message to those who sometimes call into my show?
They don't do it as much anymore because...
They don't enjoy doing it.
who say, "That's it, it's done, I'm not voting anymore, they've stolen the Republic." What is your message, Mark Lodd, to those who've given up on America?
Don't.
I mean, we as a country had to endure the failure of Jimmy Carter to get Ronald Reagan.
This is Jimmy Carter 2.0.
And the only way that we're going to fully restore America is if we exercise our vote.
And you and I talked about this in the days leading up to 2020.
We have to have such a huge show at the polls that they can't cheat, steal it away from us.
So now we know we have to work harder.
He is a true old hand of the campaign.
He is Magan, our Chief Communications Officer for the America First Policy Institute.
It's up to us, guys.
Listen, we turn it around after Carter.
We turn it around after Obama.
We will turn it around after Sleepy.
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Welcome back, dear friends!
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I thought I was important getting invited to CPAC.
No, no, no.
I'm just one of these, you know, stander, bystanders here.
My wife is at CPAC, but she had to go somewhere else first because she is so needed to take back the nation.
Her name is Katie Gorka.
She is the Director for Civil Society at the Heritage Foundation's Faulner Institute, and she has deigned to talk to us and our millions of... Stop tittering!
Stop laughing, woman!
So tell us, I'm super excited.
I can't keep up with the stuff you and your team are doing.
Where have you just come from and who were you with?
Well, I've just come from the floor of the State House in Tallahassee, where I was with a great group of about 110 women with Moms for Liberty, and we got to watch the passage of two incredibly important bills, HB 1557, Parental Rights and Education, and HB 7, for Individual Freedom.
Before people switch off, okay, yes, we're talking about laws being passed, but this is big.
Big stuff.
Why are you so excited?
Why did you go to Tallahassee?
Tell us about why this legislation should be a model across the nation and what it does for children and parents everywhere.
Well, I'll just tell you, there was one incredible mom there, wonderful mom, whose 13-year-old daughter was put through a transition plan, a gender transition plan, by her school without a word to the parents.
That's why this bill was so important.
This means that schools can't do this anymore.
I just have to stop you there because I want everybody to understand what you just said.
You told this to me yesterday and it took a moment for me to register what you said.
So this is a young girl in school, how old?
Thirteen.
Thirteen years old who is being transitioned to the other sex, which by the way is medically impossible.
You can butcher children.
You can amputate things.
You can add things.
But you do not change the biology of that human being.
Yes, Media Matters, come at me.
Because it's true.
You cannot change the genetic chromosomal code of a human being with surgery.
It is abuse.
And this was happening to a 13-year-old child in school without the knowledge of the girl's parents, Katie.
Yeah, and here's the killer.
The mom was an active volunteer at the school.
Everybody knew her.
It's not as if the guidance counselor, the teacher, the superintendent didn't know her.
And they secretly, deliberately, without telling the parents, developed this transition plan.
I'm sorry.
At this point, the only word for that is diabolical.
It is the devil's work when you are doing that to children.
As Jesus Christ told us, better that a millstone with thrown around that person's neck and they be cast into the deep then to harm one of these children and this was the policy.
So what does HB 1557 do now that you saw it witnessed, you witnessed it being signed today Katie?
Well, it says schools cannot withhold information from parents, and it says parents have the fundamental right to make decisions about the care and upbringing of their child in the classroom.
Fabulous.
The other law, HB 7, why is that important?
Individual freedom.
This is, again, one of the laws to combat critical race theory, and this law says teachers cannot say that an individual is inherently racist Just because of their ethnicity or race.
Let me read.
You've got one line here from HB 7 in Florida.
No race is it.
So this is what the law states.
It's been signed.
No race is inherently superior to another race.
Which is the opposite of what critical race theory says.
Right.
That whites are bad and they oppress and colored Americans are always oppressed.
That statement is now illegal in the schools of Florida.
Yeah, and it's unfortunate because critical race theory is now mainstreaming racism again, something that we have fought so hard to get rid of in this country, and critical race theory is trying to bring it back.
But I'll tell you what, moms are having nothing to do with it, and they are fighting it.
So I am angry at your employee heritage.
We had your boss, the president, on to open the show, so I'm making it official now in front of millions of listeners.
My wife travels too much, okay?
She has traveled the country meeting these amazing mama bears that are organizing like Moms for Liberty.
Tell us, what are you seeing?
Is this, you know, sporadic events in Virginia and Florida, or is this something organic that could take over the country?
No, I see it happening absolutely everywhere.
And you know, I love the moms at Moms4Liberty.
They're alone.
Just in the year and a half that they've existed, they've now got over 70,000 members across the country.
Incredible.
And that's just one group.
They're all over the place.
I'm telling you what, parents are standing up and taking back education.
And what's the model?
Because we heard from Kevin Roberts that legislation is key, that we've got these packages of legislation that can help defend the children in all the various states of the Republic.
But beyond that, legislation isn't enough.
You don't get to the victory you've witnessed today without Not only that, but legislation doesn't stop certain books from coming into the libraries.
I mean, that's a really big issue.
And as they pointed out on the floor of the Florida House today, even once you pass legislation, there's no way you can keep an eye on every teacher.
Parents have to be engaged.
Right.
She's Katie Gorka.
For some reason she went Hungarian or Latin on Twitter.
It's Gorka Katie.
It's backwards.
G-O-R-K-A Katie.
And very exciting news.
Have you applied for a Truth Social account?
I not only applied, but I have one.
All right.
Is it the same or did you go... At Katie Gorka.
Katie Gorka.
All right.
She's going American Anglo-Saxon.
It's Katie Gorka, Director of Civil Society at the Heritage Foundation's Fulner Institute.
How do people educate themselves?
I saw Mike Gonzalez walk by.
Go to heritage.org, join today, read Mike's book.
You have materials on all of this stuff at Heritage, correct?
Heritage has a lot of great material.
Mike Gonzalez's book, I totally recommend James Lindsay's books, are incredible.
Luke Rosiak has a great new book on education now.
You know, we need to get educated, we need to get engaged.
We've got to make this happen.
All right.
You heard it here from my boss, The Muse.
Make it happen.
Educate yourself.
It's really up to us.
Do you trust?
Can you trust?
You can't trust the schools.
You can't trust the teachers, sadly.
Why?
Because the teacher training academies have become hotbeds of neo-Marxism.
What do you call it?
Not neo-Marxism?
Next-gen Marxism.
Next Gen.
So hip.
Next Gen Marxism.
We're gonna crush them.
We're going to listen to the lamentation of their women.
Which is a nice segue to our next guest, who is, yeah, the daughter of the man who made that movie.
Yeah, John Milius.
Amanda Milius will be with us here on America First, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
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Hi. - No, really, I mean, Obviously.
Got any more titles in mind?
Except for Farage. - So good.
Farage.
Thank you.
Tell everybody else.
I love listening to him, too.
That's why he's like the voice master.
So what do we talk about?
I mean, we can talk about the old movie.
What do we talk about?
Well, actually, I mean, we are now legit to share that the movie is going to be debuting sometime soon on Newsmax and is already available on Salem.
Okay, good.
All right.
It's available.
It's the front page of Salem.
All right.
Do I need the headphones?
Yes.
Salem Now, right?
Salem Now.
Everything's Salem Now.
If you go to the front page of Salem Now, you will see nothing but plot against the President.
Which is great because of all of the Durham stuff that's happening.
And because of your thank you, VEO, which is amazing, you'll recognize it.
It's like...
It's in all the ads.
Good.
That's what we like to hear.
The funny thing is, your voice from the movie is in it, and then the next voice you hear is you doing it.
Nice.
So it seems like it's in it.
The editor really did the right thing with that.
Good.
When did you get here?
No, I saw him on the plane.
I know, he said like four hours ago.
Really?
Oh, I got here last night.
I would be dead.
I walked in, I just absolutely crashed.
Except I don't remember who we were.
I don't know.
It's exhausting.
But, that's how it is.
This looks great.
90 seconds.
Oh, should I tweet?
Yes, 90 seconds.
What am I telling people to turn on?
Just go to rumble.com slash said Gorka.
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Why?
Have you been taking it?
Take it.
Take it double for at least two weeks.
Backslash Seb Gorka or Gorka?
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I stopped taking it for about a week just to test, and my back pain came back.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Can you believe it?
They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
How do you say that?
Magnificent.
You just don't say it.
I wish I had my sound box here, because I've got one of my favorite little buttons I press that says, the Conan speech about the lamentation of the women that segues perfectly with what Charlie Kirk said about crushing those that are trying to destroy our civilization.
Why do I mention that?
Because a certain Amanda Milius is sitting next to me.
She hasn't provoked an outrage yet, but she's trying hard.
I don't speak till... I don't go on till Saturday, so...
Yeah, but come on, you do that all the time.
You did that at the State Department for how long in this Trump administration?
Three years.
She is a filmmaker, an official troublemaker.
Follow her at AmandaMilius right now.
Greetings to your father.
Is there somebody in your family who takes Relief Factor?
I swear I am not making this up.
Because you just said it.
You never said it.
I was talking to him off camera.
In the break, right.
I just went to LA to see my dad and I was giving him this Apocalypse Now shirt.
I saw that.
I love that.
Two seconds before that he pulls this giant bowl over and like points in it and he's like, Seb's thing.
Sorry, I'm saying that because my father had a stroke and he doesn't speak perfectly but we understand each other.
I'm not making fun, that's how he does it.
And he was really enthusiastic about it and he was like, works!
It works!
It works!
And I was like, well here we go!
I bloody take it, my wife takes it as well!
I told him!
For those who aren't aware, this is a giant, a legend.
From Dirty Harry, to Conan, to The Hunt for Red October, to Apocalypse Now.
What was his favorite film that he made about surfing?
Big Wednesday.
Big Wednesday about the surf culture in America.
Okay, enough about your dad.
I still need to meet him.
I still need to go to the range with him with a nice N-framed Model 29 .44 caliber Smith & Wesson.
But we will make that happen.
In the meantime, let's talk about this lady who is making movies that are just blowing other Documentarians out of the water.
Yes.
Propagandists like Michael Moore.
You made the plot against the president, which is the film version of the book by Lee Smith.
Yes, the genius Lee Smith.
The genius Lee Smith.
And it is available now at SalemNow.com.
It is available still at Amazon, right?
Amazon, SalemNow, and it's going to debut very soon on Newsmax.
So excited.
So when you wrote the script, when you did the research, you had me on the show.
I thought you're never going to do this in time.
You wrapped it.
It's superb.
Did you ever expect, because you must have done so much extra research and whatever beyond Lee's book, that we would be sitting here Reading John Durham's court documents about... That are so much more far out.
Roland Joffe's government-sanctioned illegal surveillance of the Trump White House.
Did you think, I've seen it all and nothing can shock me?
Yeah, I was actually shocked because the crazy thing is it's just so blatant and sloppy.
And that's the thing that I thought when we figured out how they did the spying.
how it would be, you know, there would be all these layers to it, sort of like the way they ran the info op through Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS.
And it was a very sophisticated operation that was only able to be uncovered, of course, by Cash Patel and Devin Nunes.
However, their their tapping of Trump was so incredibly sloppy.
It was just here it is like Trump.
Just hire the guys!
I need to get him on the show.
Jeff's gonna reach out.
Paul Sperry did a huge piece for Real Clear Politics where he dug into the background of this chap, Joffe.
Do you know what Joffe did in the 1980s, Amanda?
No.
Sold, he had like a pyramid scheme for old age pensioners, people who weren't knowledgeable, weren't knowledgeable about, you know, these schemes to sell them for hundreds of dollars fake grandfather clocks that were made of cardboard.
He had a scheme.
That's amazing.
He was actually caught red-handed as one of the scammers who was selling these fake antiques.
It goes from a fake antique dealer to being the guy, hang on a second, I haven't even finished yet, to being given by Comey The Director's Award for Cybersecurity.
That's so Comey.
Isn't it?
Mr. Integrity.
The guy who will be given the... When you watch the movie, doesn't that part make you ill?
The Obama swearing in.
That's why we included quite a bit of it because the theme of his swearing in ceremony is that the FBI is nothing without its integrity.
Yeah.
No matter the case, the politics, etc.
It's fascinating that he's been very quiet of late.
So has Brennan.
Oh, they've all gone underground.
We've been talking to Amanda Milius.
Go to amdcfilms.com.
How successful has the film been?
It's still the number one political doc on Amazon, potentially doc at all on Amazon.
It's still number one and it came out before the 2020 election.
So every time people need to get a brush up on Russiagate or to convince somebody that's on the fence, it's the best way to do that because it just keeps proving itself true over and over and over again.
I didn't believe she could do it.
She did it.
Watch the movie.
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Listen to him.
He's with us.
The Norwegians have landed.
Maybe we can send them to the Ukraine to help out those guys.
He isn't just a pretty face with big muscles.
He's pretty good on social media as well.
Hercules is on deck.
Kevin Sorbo, welcome back to America First.
It's good to see you again, sir.
It's been a while.
I was very rude to you earlier, wasn't I?
I said, you don't write your own tweets, do you?
Like everybody says about the president, who writes it.
Because I am really... You know, your Twitter game, dude, is pretty on point.
Yeah.
And I thought it was your son, because your son's doing a game.
His social media is edgy.
I'm in like 30% of his TikToks.
Yeah, his TikToks.
So are you telling me most of your tweets are yours, Kevin?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Okay, good.
Come on.
I came up with, you want to get rid of COVID?
Tell the Clintons COVID's got something on them.
And how many times has the boss retweeted you?
Uh, like ten times during the election year.
Ten times?
Ten times.
You're a big man.
I hadn't seen him in about 15 years in person.
Never saw him once during the election.
We got invited to the inauguration of him.
You just showed me a photograph of him.
Yeah, but this is recent.
We've been golfing since we moved here to Florida.
I've heard.
I don't play golf.
I think, as Oscar Wilde said, a good walk ruined.
I have heard that he's a pretty cool golfer.
He's a good golfer.
He's fast like me, which I like.
But he's got a great little short game.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you, we're on the course, like six carts of Secret Service guys, right?
Two ahead, the hole ahead, to move people out of the way, because he plays fast.
He plays through.
And people are aware of that.
But he goes up to them after we hit, and he drives up to them and says, how's your game going?
Is everything great?
We'll be out of your way.
He doesn't have to do that.
He does that all the time.
I've heard this story so many times.
Guys, I'm sorry I'm going to play through, but I'll be out of your heads all the time.
He's nice and apologetic about it.
He's not a jerk about it.
I don't know.
It's unfortunate that people just believe what the media says, because most media is wrong.
But things are changing.
People are waking up.
Follow this man.
What?
My show.
The strongest one for us.
Bill Maher.
Oh my gosh.
I hate the guy.
I know.
But he's red-pilled.
He's badly red-pilled.
He's waking up.
He's waking up.
He's still riding around in his limo with his champagne.
Of course.
Follow him.
It's a good game.
It's a good Twitter game.
Ksorbs right now.
We've got to talk about the four movies he's got coming out.
But first, I haven't done this before.
I'm going to embarrass you right now in front of millions of listeners.
I need to know, pretty boy, what your gym routine and diet was when you were Hercules.
How bad was it?
Because my son's a D1 athlete.
Six hours in the gym every day.
How bad was it?
Well, I was in great shape in my teens and twenties and thirties.
I shot Hercules for seven years in my thirties.
I was in great shape.
I'm an old dude now.
What was your sport?
I only... I would stay between... I'm 6'3".
You're taller than I am.
We're tall guys.
I stay between 225 and 230 pounds.
But I stayed that way since I was about a sophomore in college.
I was carbs only in the morning.
Wow.
And then about five different meals spread out of nothing but protein.
And then I would work 12 to 14 hours a day, but then I would work out an hour and a half every day after that.
So it was typical to be 16 to 18 hours door to door for me, depending on how long the shoot day was.
And what was your sport before you became an actor?
Football and basketball.
I love golf.
My dad worked at a golf course in the summers in Minnesota, but I still golf a lot to this day, but football and basketball were my games.
I was in three city leagues in L.A.
before, every week we played in three city leagues, before I got Hercules.
All right, talk to us about your latest projects.
Four films?
Four films.
One is Miracle in East Texas, True Story.
We have the lovely John Ratzenberger.
I'm sure you've probably had John on before.
Oh my gosh!
And we've got Lou Gossett Jr.' 's in it.
Wow!
And we've got Tyler Mayne, who's a WWF guy out of Canada.
Wonderful guy.
6'9", big dude.
Oh my gosh!
My lovely wife, Sam, is in it.
She steals an amazing scene in there, this jury scene.
True story about two con men that would woo widows out of their money on fake oil wells in Oklahoma and Texas.
In 1930, during the Heartland Depression, they strike oil.
Largest oil fund in the world.
Who becomes rich off that?
A guy by the name of Hunt became rich off that fine.
Then I got a beautiful documentary coming called Eating with the Enemy.
It deals with the Last Supper and the Disciples.
Really?
Really great.
Eating with the Enemy, great title.
So Judas, meaning Judas, right?
Well, you got Judas and Thomas, but you also had a lot of Disciples saying, we don't know him when he's getting crucified, but you were with him, so they denied.
Who's in that?
Well, we have actors portraying people during that time, and then we have scholars talking about it, so it's a mixture of things.
I like that.
Brent Miller's company did it.
I narrated the last one for him.
That was the number one documentary on Amazon for five months last year called Before the Wrath.
Go to BeforeTheWrath.com.
It deals with the second coming.
Pretty interesting, pretty fascinating.
So this is dining with the enemy?
This is called eating with the enemy.
And then I've got the Reagan movie coming out with Dennis Quaid.
I play his pastor in it.
That'll probably be out sometime in the fall, I'm guessing.
And then I have, there's another one.
What was it like working with Quaid?
Well, Quaid and I worked together years ago on Soul Surfer, the Bethany Hamilton story.
And we had the same director, Sean McNamara, which I'm hoping to work with this year.
I'm actually on my way to Poland to do a World War II movie, a true story, called Irena's Val, about a woman who hid a family of 12 Jewish people in the basement of this house that a high-ranking German officer had taken over, and she had to be, like, the housemaid for them, until she could get them out.
And then I've got another documentary.
I'm leaving for Israel soon to shoot a documentary dealing with the oldest temple they've ever unearthed, an archaeological dig.
Then I've got a wonderful Western called Trailblazers we're shooting in Oklahoma later this year.
Have you ever made this many movies in one year before?
I do about four or five years.
I've shot 70 movies.
People don't realize that.
They think it was only Hercules or Andromeda, which was great.
It was 12 years of doing two series back-to-back, but I've shot 70 movies.
Yeah, there's a dozen that sucked, but I was hoping that would happen.
Favorite one to work on?
Favorite one?
Doesn't have to be the best movie.
What if?
What if?
You would love What If?
People love God's Not Dead.
This is the same writers that did What If?
Better movie than God's Not Dead.
God's Not Dead just really became popular.
But What If?
is a better movie.
Why are you here at CPAC?
I'm speaking with my wife.
I'm speaking about the cultural hit of Hollywood and what I'm doing to fight the culture that they're putting out, which is filled with hate and anger.
Can we turn it around?
Sure.
I think we can.
My argument, and I'm not an artist, I don't make stuff like you do, my argument is a very simple one.
Their fuel is hatred and sooner or later it eats you up.
Ours is love, love of country, love of God.
So eventually we have to win.
I think it's getting more and more that way.
I've had a couple of talks with Netflix about opening Inspirational Division because they know that... What?
Isn't that amazing if that actually happens?
I know.
So Netflix, come on, pull the trigger.
You can laugh at the 80 million people that love faith-based and family-friendly movies and make money all the way to the bank.
Well, since Amazon just booted Black Lives Matter, I guess anything is possible.
Anything is possible.
Follow this man, his lovely muse, Sam Sorbo, his son.
Twitter is ksorbs, Kevin Sorbo.
God bless you and all the work you do.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Ah!
There you go!
Thank you, Kevin.
Thank you.
So he knows the mics are on.
Oh, my goodness.
Why is Eric laughing?
Because it's funny!
Didn't you do this last CPAC?
You had a Castiel on the show, right?
Ooh, did I?
I don't even remember that.
It was either last CPAC or two years ago.
Oh, I can't see.
No, that's just us.
Wow, okay.
Well, I just looked at the comments on Vladimir Putin's most recent Instagram post and that's a wild ride.
Which is what?
Uh, I don't know.
To be honest, it's general, some general talking about something it looks like.
Ministry of Defense.
General.
But it's just, I mean, it's weird internet stuff.
People are going in there and it's wild.
Okay, we've got 45 seconds here.
Our last segment of the day.
Moving at the speed of Trump.
We are moving at the speed of Trump.
It's insanity!
Cliffs of insanity!
And this is only day one out of two.
I know.
My flag is drooping.
Don't have a droopy flag.
It's not good.
good one, do it.
All right, standing by.
All right, 20 seconds.
All right, 20 20 seconds.
Hi, this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
We all learn.
The band's getting back together.
Our former engineer, John C., is here because he's a Floridian.
He deserted the swamp.
Great to see him.
And we're going to put Mr. G. in front of the camera.
Jeff, how are you feeling at CPAC?
I like it.
I see a lot of Trump shirts.
I haven't seen one Glenn Youngkin shirt.
You have to get it in straight away, poor Glenn Youngkid.
Okay, and so far we haven't broken our record, have we?
No, but we still have tomorrow.
We still have.
For the number of guests you mean, right?
Yes.
Yes.
Which was how much?
How much was our record last CPAC?
We did, it was either 16 or 17, I forget.
In one day.
One day, okay.
Why is this important for you?
You are a real MAGA America First guy.
You are my political compass.
Is this important, this event?
I think if it's here, you see all the people that are like you.
You know what I mean?
Right, right.
That believe in the country, that want things to change.
And you realize how many people there are out there like us.
And, given that the big man is going to take the main stage, I think it's like 6, 6.30 Florida time on Saturday.
Guys, you've got to watch.
Go to CPAC.org.
You've got to watch President Trump.
What would you like?
I've had enough of the look forward stuff.
What do you want to hear from the 45th and, God willing, 47th President of the United States?
Um, I want to hear about his second term.
Because that's what he's going to be talking about.
How about this?
How about how he's really going to drain the swamp big time?
No, that's exactly what has to happen.
The personnel, he's got to drain the swamp big time and he's the only guy that'll do it.
You've heard me, you're always listening, how I ask every guest who is part of the former administration or a politician right now, what's the balance of power between the RINOS and true MAGA America First?
You're not as bullish as some of them are, right?
No.
Where would you put it?
Is it 20-80, 70-30?
What's the power relationship between the stinking fake conservatives and real MAGA?
Um, 2080 maybe?
That bad?
Yeah, I think it is.
Ooh, out.
So what does that mean for us?
What does it mean for people who voted for President Trump?
No, we've got new candidates, though.
You've got people like the Robbie Starbucks, all those type of people.
You've just got to keep chipping away, chipping away.
You get 10 more in this time, you get 10 more next time, and they're going to be the voices that people listen to, and that's how you take the power back.
It's not going to happen overnight.
You've just got to keep chipping away.
You know, we have to force the change.
It truly is up to us.
There's no magic.
Oh, we've won the midterms, therefore, you know, the Swamp are going to give back the power.
No, that's not how it works.
Eric, are you there?
Right here, as always.
Is this really the end of the third hour?
In 40 seconds, yes.
Can you confirm that, John?
It indeed is the end of the third hour.
That's insanity!
It felt like five seconds.
A knackering, that's British for tiring, a truly tiring five seconds, but we are so excited, guys.
Please, serious on a serious note, we're having fun here, but say a prayer for all the young, young Ukrainians, the young men fighting I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist of President Trump.
You've been listening to America First.
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