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Feb. 4, 2022 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: China's genocide Olympics

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	This is America first countdown to the 2022 midterm elections.
	277 days to go.
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	That's why we have to be ready to fight, fight, fight every single day to take back the Republic and win the midterms.
	And what a perfect, perfect guest to open our Friday show with today.
	She is the proud representative, the Senator of the great state of Tennessee, Marsha Blackburn.
	Welcome to America First.
	It is so good to join you.
	Thank you so much.
	Well, we have to discuss all the positive signs that even the Democrats are losing faith in the person they elected to the White House.
	But given the day that it is, the opening of the Olympics in China, you have used a phrase, it's at the top of your Twitter account, hashtag genocide games.
	Why are we even participating with this regime, Senator Blackburn?
	I have no idea why we are doing that.
	It is really quite frustrating to see that our athletes are there.
	And I, when you listen to Nancy Pelosi's comments, now the Democrats have been all for sending him over there.
	Let's go.
	China is just a competitor.
	They are not an adversary.
	Everything's going to be fine.
	And then she comes out and says, do not challenge or speak ill of the Chinese Communist Party while you're over there.
	We're concerned about your safety.
	You want to go?
	Really?
	It took her a while to realize that our athletes going over there, that the Olympic Committee, which by the way, has not stood up to the Chinese Communist Party.
	And that no one can guarantee that they're not going to be tracked or surveilled or followed or that their health is going to be okay.
	They're not going to be exposed to something.
	So I think, and I think we're all concerned for these athletes and for the manner in which these games are being carried out.
	You know, if that's the point, Sebastian, Why does the Olympic Committee continue to go to China with the Olympic Games?
	She said it yesterday.
	She said it again today.
	Here is the Speaker of the House warning our athletes.
	Cut three.
	As I say, as I wish the athletes well, I do not encourage them to speak out against the Chinese government there because I fear for their safety if they do.
	So why are we doing this?
	This is a nation with slave labor camps.
	You've called it the genocide games.
	Isn't it time to get serious, to cut off relations and not actually help glorify this communist regime, Senator?
	Of course it is.
	And President Trump realized that you had to be tough on China.
	He was holding them to account.
	They didn't like it.
	But trade was better.
	Respect was better.
	They knew we were challenging them and we were pushing to get to the bottom of what actually happened with COVID-19.
	But now they see Joe Biden, who is weak and rudderless.
	They see what is happening with Biden Incorporated and Hunter and James Biden.
	And all the deals that are there, the coziness that is there, the soft on China policy that is there.
	This is not serving the American people well.
	And I am hoping, I'm hopeful and prayerful that our athletes are going to be OK.
	She's the author of The Mind of a Conservative Woman Seeking the Best for Family and Country.
	You can follow her right now on Twitter at Marsha Blackburn.
	Senator Blackburn, you mentioned the Biden Inc., the latest revelations from Peter Schweitzer's book, already number one in the New York Times bestseller list, Red Handed, the $31 million the Biden family made alone from China, the office space that was being rented by Hunter Biden for himself and his father that would also be used by people tied to the center of the communist regime in China.
	What can we do?
	At the moment it looks positive.
	So many Democrats are coming over.
	If we take the House, if we take the Senate, please reassure us that the GOP will show some fortitude and get serious in terms of investigations.
	Can we expect that after the midterm, Senator Blackburn?
	My hope is that all Republicans are going to come together and say, you know, fighting for this country is a worthy fight.
	And we have to stand up and protect our freedoms.
	We have to make certain that we are going to be united in our fight against the left.
	This country, our freedoms, we have to stand with it.
	And you know, Sebastian, There is a phrase and a verse in the Bible where there is no vision, the people perish.
	And you look at what the Democrats are doing.
	They don't have a vision.
	They have an agenda.
	What they're after is control.
	And what I'm working hard for, and I think most conservatives are working for, and indeed most Americans.
	We want a free country where our children can dream those big dreams, where they can work to make them come true, where people can live their version of the American dream, where they can help their friend and their neighbor.
	Where they can enjoy their religious liberty, their freedom of speech.
	They're not fearful to speak out.
	They like to speak their mind.
	They like that robust, respectful debate.
	Now that is most people.
	But what we see coming from the left right now is they want control of our lives 24 hours a day, seven days a week, daylight to dark.
	They want to go take one vote.
	on this Build Back Better plan, as they call it.
	I call it Build Back Broke, and take control of your kids, control of education, control of your small business, of your bank account.
	They want to control every aspect of your life, your health care, all the decisions you make.
	I like that.
	I'm going to use that with your permission.
	Build.
	Back.
	Broke.
	Senator Blackburn, as a resident of the Commonwealth of Virginia, we saw some stunning trends in the Commonwealth with people who had no political background, never volunteered before on campaigns, becoming poll watchers, becoming activists for Glenn Youngkin.
	What are you seeing in Tennessee?
	Could this be a trend across the nation that people are finally waking up to the horrors of a radicalized Democrat party?
	I think you're right on that.
	I think they are waking up to the horrors.
	And they have realized what the Democrats were going to do.
	If you were going to give them an inch, they were going to take control.
	And people realize that a lot of this conversation around trying to say we're inclusive or we're getting equity for people and all of this agenda was a woke agenda.
	And you had to be either oppressors or victims.
	I've talked to moms every day and they say, we want our children to be colorblind.
	Respect to everybody.
	To have a very diverse group of friends.
	And we don't want them to think in some of these terms.
	And so, yeah, they've stood up and they've gotten to work.
	And it will be these women, these moms, I call them Chief Mamas in Charge.
	And they are the ones who are fighting back and pushing back.
	They realize you cannot leave the school board positions unattended, that they're vitally important.
	These city commissions and city councils are important, and they're stepping up and they're throwing their hat in the ring, and I'm really proud of them.
	I'm doing everything I can do to help train these good, solid, conservative women on how to run for office and get out there and win these races.
	God bless you.
	They're the mama bears, or even better, the chief mamas in charge.
	Blackburn.senate.gov.
	Marsha Blackburn.
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	Thank you.
	Mike's back on.
	Title for the prerecord?
	Oh, what did he say?
	We know what Fauci was doing in Wuhan.
	Alright.
	No, actually, no.
	Is that the best thing?
	It's catchy, you know.
	Fauci and Wuhan.
	It gets a lot of views.
	What Fauci was doing in Wuhan.
	Yes.
	What Fauci was doing.
	That's good, that's good, that's good.
	Did you listen to any of it, Geoff?
	Yeah, it was pretty good.
	Pretty dense, right?
	If you paid attention, you can follow along.
	Yeah.
	And let's check out a couple of the names he dropped.
	As potential guests.
	And let's get Pappas back for one-on-one.
	He's next week sometime.
	Great.
	All right, so Goethe's just D?
	Yes, I believe so.
	Great.
	Oh, can you print?
	I'll tell you when you're back at the...
	Go ahead.
	So there's a piece in Axios.
	Axios.
	Co-authored by Jonathan Swan.
	Oh, yeah.
	And that scumbag Lachlan Marquet on the new right, the new Kingmakers, if you could print it off.
	The Making of a Modern Republican?
	Yes, that's it.
	That's the most recent one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Can you play me Cut Five?
	Cut Five.
	Right here.
	Alright, good.
	Alright, I'll use that with Boris.
	people won't get on the subway.
	People rearrange their day around it. - Crime is out of control in New York City.
	- When you get too lax, these type of things happen.
	And over these times, you know, people are desperate.
	- All right, good, all right, I'll use that with Boris.
	Um, let me hear seven, just, Back in the day, by 1950, Missouri had the second highest number of lynchings outside of the Deep South.
	So when folks talk about making America great again, that's the kind of Missouri grand old tradition that they want to return to.
	Thanks.
	Who is that?
	Her name's on there.
	She's some guess it's on there.
	And you can't agree with her at the end.
	Israel here, 10 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Hi, this is President Trump, this is President Trump, Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
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	Thank you, Mr. President.
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	Happy Friday.
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	Okay.
	What did the great Rush Limbaugh call them?
	Random acts of journalism, right?
	That was Rush, random acts of journalism.
	When a member of the legacy lying media gets a pang of conscience and actually does something that challenges the left.
	We're going to play you something from Matt Lee of AP, which is a joke now.
	AP on the whole is just a cesspit.
	It's just an extension of the DNC.
	But I guess Matt Lee's got a conscience.
	But first, let's set the stage for you.
	John Kirby, that disgrace to the Navy uniform, retired admiral who's now the spokes propagandist for the Biden Pentagon that's searching for white supremacists when it's not engaging in the next war with Russia, told us this factual statement about why we're deploying the 82nd
	One option is the Russian government, we think, is planning to stage a fake attack by Ukrainian military or intelligence forces against Russian sovereign territory, or against Russian-speaking people, to therefore justify their action.
	Okay, so this is the pretext that, oh, yeah, we believe Russia's going to fake an attack like the Germans did in Poland in 1939.
	Okay, how do you know that?
	Could you back it up?
	Ned Kirby, one of the classic soy boy beta males who's now at the State Department as their propagandist, spun the same scenario at a press conference and the Associated Press's Matt Lee said, okay, where's the evidence?
	And it was joyous to behold.
	Cut six!
	What is the evidence that they... I mean, this is like crisis actors, really?
	This is like Alex Jones territory you're getting into now.
	What evidence do you have to support the idea that there is some propaganda film in the making?
	Matt, this is derived from information known to the U.S.
	government.
	Intelligence information that we have declassified.
	I think you know... Okay, well, where is it?
	Where is this information?
	It is intelligence information that we have declassified.
	Well, where is it?
	Where is the declassified information?
	I just delivered it.
	No, you made a series of allegations and statements... Would you like us to print out the top part?
	Because you will see a transcript of this briefing that you can print out for yourself.
	That's not evidence, Ned.
	That's you saying it.
	That's not evidence.
	I'm sorry.
	What would you like, Matt?
	I would like to see some proof.
	I recognize Matt Lee now.
	He's been a thorn.
	He's been a troublemaker in that seat for years.
	He sits back and he just drills, drills.
	He doesn't care who's in power.
	Good for him.
	I'm sure AP hates him.
	But Ned Price, how stupid are you?
	I think he's actually stupid.
	I think he thinks you're stupid, but he's really the dumb one.
	Because he said, Well, the evidence is the fact that I just said it.
	No, Ned, it's not.
	And when you say, well, it's based upon the intelligence we have declassified.
	Well, if you've declassified it, Ned, you can show it to us because it's no longer secret.
	And then when he's pushed once more by Matt Lee, he said, OK, I want to see it.
	Give it to me.
	What does Price say?
	Oh, should we give you the transcript of this press conference?
	Hang on a second, Ned Price.
	Either you have declassified intelligence on the false flag operation with the crisis actors straight out of Alex Jones, totally, or you don't.
	The transcript of you saying you have it is not the primary intelligence.
	I think that's going to be an evergreen.
	Eric, file that away, because that is the example of just how much they think they can lie to you.
	At the same time, a perfect example of just how thick and moronic they are.
	Let's go to your calls, Los Angeles!
	It's Friday.
	It's done.
	Dr. G, happy Friday to you.
	Happy!
	It's always great to hear your voice, Don.
	Oh, man, I always got to check with my bass baritone brother, the Voice of America, Dr. G. Thank you.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	Well, my question, again, since you're a geopolitician and a geostrategist par excellence, there's a gentleman way back on the 13th in the Epoch Times.
	He wrote a beautiful article about Kazakhstan.
	He said, why Kazakhstan's unrest will reverberate around the globe.
	And it's brilliant, and it's really eye-opening, and it shows the real fear that the Chinese and the Russians have is from their own people, the Iranians, the North Koreans as well.
	And we can, you know, the supreme art of combat, as Sun Tzu said, was win without fighting at all.
	So if we can do what Ronald Reagan did and One of the famous directives he signed, it was basically the death warrant of the Soviet Union, where he said we're going to oppose them at every level, political, moral, spiritual, economic... Well, and it's the first meeting of the NSC when he asks, you know, how are we going to defeat the Soviet Union, and everybody goes around the table umming and ahhing and mentioning policy papers, and the Gipper says, yeah, I've got a different idea.
	We win, they lose.
	So right, because now we're playing so much defense, we have to start attacking their end zone, their goal.
	And the best way is by helping the Russian people, the Chinese people, the Iranian people liberate themselves.
	We don't have to fire a shot.
	Just help them liberate themselves.
	They'll be so busy defending, they'll have a hard time making trouble.
	The clearest thing, the clearest thing that we know about these regimes is the thing they are most afraid of is their own people and democracy.
	That's why Google is helping the Chinese Communist Party censor the Internet in China.
	That's why it wasn't us invading the Soviet Union that won.
	It was in the 1980s.
	It was the CIA doing what?
	We didn't smuggle, you know, millions of people.
	Missiles to Solidarność, to the solidarity movement in Poland.
	We smuggled fax machines and copiers, mimeograph machines.
	Why?
	So the information, the truth, the samizda could filter through to the Polish people supporting the trade unions.
	You nailed it, Don.
	Absolutely on the money.
	We can help these people.
	We don't have to be the world's policemen invading other people's countries.
	But we have a role to play as the greatest nation on God's earth, helping others to liberate themselves.
	What a wonderful idea.
	Wonderful.
	Thank you.
	First call of the day goes to Don.
	Don't go anywhere else.
	Ricky, Al, Mike.
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	The Genocide Olympics have begun.
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	Mic's on.
	Hey, can you find that?
	Epoch Times.
	What was the article called?
	Something to do with Kazakhstan.
	It's Joseph McCullough, op-ed piece.
	Assuming it's spelled the same.
	Okay, hang on.
	Shoot.
	Alright, let me try that.
	No search results for a Joseph McCullough.
	Yeah, I think it's not spelled the way you're thinking it's spelled.
	Just look up op-eds Kazakhstan or Joseph.
	Kazakhstan.
	You've got merchant relief here.
	Okay.
	What have we got?
	Let me listen to some cuts.
	Here's ten.
	Ten?
	Okay, ten.
	Yeah, it's worth remembering that while Western countries may be boycotting these Olympics over human rights issues, China styles itself as a champion of the developing world, and it has plenty of support in countries from Africa to Latin America, where its investments are building up local economies.
	Wow.
	That's a Saturday Night Live skit.
	Wow.
	Where did you get that?
	That's opening ceremonies.
	They haven't aired yet.
	It's online.
	Cause you know it's delayed.
	Oh my gosh.
	Wow.
	I'm looking forward to watching it tonight.
	Wow.
	Give me nine.
	It's absolutely political theater.
	It's only where the C-SPAN cameras are rolling that members are fined.
	And if you go to the Senate chambers, well, the air must be extra purified there because there's no fine whatsoever.
	So you're saying the Democrats, when they're not on camera on C-SPAN, have their masks off?
	Is that what you're telling me?
	That's crazy.
	That video, that just blows my mind.
	The NBC one?
	The China one.
	Oh.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You wanna come in with it?
	the house floor, the masks come off and the BS is over.
	That's crazy.
	That video, that just blows my mind.
	The NBC one?
	The China one.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	You want to come in with it?
	No, let me do...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, calculate.
	Come in with it.
	Just come in with it.
	The real genocide isn't the Uyghurs.
	It's something like Trump's Twitter account.
	That was the real problem.
	Okay.
	Standing by.
	All right.
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	Yeah, it's worth remembering that while Western countries may be boycotting these Olympics over human rights issues, China styles itself as a champion of the developing world, and it has plenty of support in countries from Africa to Latin America, where its investments are building up local economies.
	I'm kind of gobsmacked.
	Jeff said you gotta look at cut number 10.
	That's from the opening ceremony of the Olympics that haven't aired yet because of the time delay.
	China styles itself as a champion of the developing world.
	I'm gonna stop here on something tactical for a second because the announcer who's working for the government there They're not Chinese.
	I think they sound maybe Australian.
	I think there's a hint of a little Antipodean accent there.
	So whoever you are, you have no soul.
	The person who agreed to do the voice, the VOG, the voice of God for the Chinese Olympics, He's reading a script that says China styles itself as a champion of the developing world.
	In what way?
	Does it export the labor camps of the Uyghurs to Africa?
	Does it help Latin American countries also censor the internet in front of its own citizens?
	Is it deploying social credit systems into other parts of the world that mean If you say the wrong thing in public about the party, you don't get to go to college or you don't get to get on a plane and travel because your credit score is politically incorrect.
	Is that how they are exporting their championing of the developed world?
	That one person for me is a story because you have no soul.
	You have sold your soul to the devil.
	Don't tell me it's a job.
	You don't have to be the English language voiceover person for the communist regime.
	Let's play that again just so this person gets a little bit more exposure for the absolute fifth columnist Tokyo Rose that he is.
	Yeah, it's worth remembering that while Western countries may be boycotting these Olympics over human rights issues, China styles itself as a champion of the developing world.
	And it has plenty of support in countries from Africa to Latin America, where its investments are building up local economies.
	Let's be clear about one thing.
	This is the nation whose Communist Party killed Between 30 and 60 million Chinese.
	And it's the only power in that nation to this day.
	When you go and vote in China, you don't get to choose the parties you vote for.
	But they style themselves as a champion of the developing world.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to line two, Ricky Orlando.
	Welcome.
	Happy Friday.
	Yes, sir.
	How you doing?
	I wanted to ask you... Are you being chased by the police as we speak?
	I would have to have an ambulance coming by.
	All right.
	Good timing.
	Carry on.
	We can just about hear you, Ricky.
	Yeah.
	I wanted to ask you, who do you think is going to run if Trump isn't able to run?
	I don't care.
	That's a theoretical question.
	President Trump is running.
	Okay, alright.
	I just want to be sure, because you know they're going to crucify him with the press.
	Whoever it is they're going to crucify him, you know that.
	This is the garbage argument of, we need somebody else because then they'll be nice to him.
	Oh really?
	Like who?
	If they thought Mitt Romney was a dog-abusing noogie giver, there's nobody the left would be happy with.
	And if they were, he shouldn't be the candidate or her.
	Thank you, Ricky.
	Let's go to Mike, California.
	Dr. Gorka, how are you, sir?
	Good.
	A couple of multiple choice questions, if it's okay.
	Well, you've got 60 seconds.
	Go for it.
	Okay, first one.
	If you had to be stuck with one rifle, which of these three would you choose?
	What?
	You're gonna give me the ones I have to choose between?
	That's not fair!
	But go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	A zombie attack has happened.
	Alright.
	The AK-47.
	An M1A or an FAL?
	FAL!
	Oh, thank the good Lord.
	FN FAL, of course.
	Carry on.
	Second question.
	You had to choose between one of these three muscle cars.
	1970 Chevelle SS454 with the LS6, a 70 Hemi Roadrunner, or a 70 Torino GT with the 428 Cobra Jet.
	Oh, GT.
	Last one.
	Absolutely.
	Come on.
	Is that a question, Mike?
	But I love them.
	FN FAL and the GT.
	Those are the kinds of questions we expect on a Friday.
	Stay in the line.
	Nicely done, my friend.
	Let's give Mike a pick of what he wants from the Seb Gorka store.
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	We are back on the topic of China, the quote-unquote genocide games.
	We are talking to the man we trust Implicitly, to tell us the truth about that communist regime, the Washington Times' national security correspondent, author of Deceiving the Sky, Bill Gertz.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Hi, good to be on the program.
	Always great to be with you, Seb.
	Bill, I use that phrase because we opened the show with Senator Marsha Blackburn, who used that in a tweet.
	She said, hashtag genocide games.
	Is that hyperbole?
	Should we not use language like that when talking about this regime?
	No, that's very accurate.
	I agree.
	I'm boycotting the games myself.
	I think it's clearly time that the American people wake up to the fact that we're dealing with a genocidal Nuclear armed communist dictatorship in Beijing that is seeking to dominate the world and in order to do that They're working to destroy literally destroy the United States and the freedoms that we cherish So what is the right approach going forward?
	This is just one event for two weeks, Bill.
	As the child of those who escaped a communist dictatorship, why don't we have a radical approach to this country?
	What is it going to take, Bill, to convince big business that supporting a regime that actually wants to displace America is not a good thing?
	Well, to paraphrase James Carville, it's the ideology, stupid.
	We need to educate Americans to Marxist-Leninist, Chinese characteristics ideology.
	I mean, this is really it.
	I've had people tell me that China's really no longer communist, they're just nationalist and fascist, but we've got to get smart and understand the underlying ideology that's motivating everything That Chinese leaders do, whether it's the Olympic Games, or whether it's the Belt and Road Initiative, or it's the massive buildup of their nuclear forces in Western China.
	And so I think we've really got to get to this root cause.
	I mean, again, for decades, and I've highlighted this in my reporting in my books, the idea was that if we just traded with China, that this would mitigate this Communist threat.
	This idea that if we liberalized economically, they would liberalize politically, which is such garbage, Bill.
	It was a fantastic strategic error of monumental proportions.
	And now we're faced with a truly existential threat to our freedoms, to our free market system, to our civil liberties.
	China wants to destroy all of that.
	And I think it's really important for young people especially to understand that this is a regime that is on the march and sees the democratic world, they call it the capitalist world, led by the United States as the main enemy.
	Here's an idea I had this morning.
	I was discussing this.
	I was a guest on Alex Marlow's Breitbart radio show this morning.
	And tell me if this could be a way or if I'm just being naive.
	My idea is the following.
	Whenever you go into a store, when you go to Walmart or you go to Bed Bath & Beyond or wherever you're shopping or you're on Amazon and you're looking at the product and where it's made, When you see that it's made in China, the first thing that should come to your mind is labor camps, is slave labor, is communism.
	If we had that reaction to the phrase made in China, perhaps from the ground up we could make a difference as individual consumers, Bill?
	Yes, I think it's extremely important.
	Then, if you go to the top of the food chain, it's these gigantic financial companies that are committed to doing business in China And have basically bankrolled this massive military and political threat to the country.
	Now, a lot of banks and businesses are retrenching, and they're saying, look, we're getting out of China.
	But a lot of the big financial companies have not done that yet, and we need to really put pressure on those companies to say, look, you are bankrolling an evil regime, and you've got to find other ways to make money.
	I think that would also work as well, in addition to not buying Chinese products at Costco or Walmart.
	How important would it be to have somebody like President Trump back in the White House who would actually initiate a trade war again?
	Well, I think Trump was revolutionary in changing the supertanker movement of the United States policy towards China.
	And the Biden administration is retrenched halfway.
	They have a bunch of climate People in there that want to do business with China thinking that they're going to go along with climate change things.
	And then there are some good people that are trying to continue some of the Trump policies towards China within the Biden administration.
	So they're up and down on China.
	And I mean, I think they've been fairly strong on Taiwan.
	I think that's going to be the next flashpoint.
	If the Russians go into Ukraine, I think you can expect to see some type of action by the Chinese military against Taiwan.
	They've been signaling that for the last year and a half.
	So you think this could be the timing for some kind of dual action?
	China takes Taiwan and Russia invades Ukraine again?
	Definitely.
	I mean, look at what happened after the Sochi Olympics.
	That was when Putin went into southern Georgia, and then later on took over Crimea in Ukraine.
	It's a piecemeal strategy.
	It's a perfect, perfect cover.
	We are talking to the National Security Correspondent for the Washington Times, Bill Gertz.
	He is the author of Deceiving the Sky Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy.
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	Thank you, Bill.
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	On It's amazing how they've twisted it since then.
	Oh yeah.
	That's why I love this, um...
	January 6th, hang on.
	The RNC resolution to censure Cheney and Kinzinger.
	The AP covers it, mentions it.
	The censure resolution accuses Kinzinger and Cheney of participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.
	A striking description of a violent attack on the Capitol by supporters of then-President Donald Trump.
	It's so mad.
	to change the outcome, just as Hillary Clinton continually said that Donald Trump was an illegitimate president after 2016 and doubted that election.
	So now we have two straight elections where the loser is calling into question the outcome.
	And I have a feeling in 2022, based on what Democrats are saying about voting rights, we're going to hear about that in the midterms, too.
	So this is a point now we're at now, Martha, where half the country, or at least some supporters of a candidate, don't believe an outcome because that candidate All right, 30 seconds.
	We are clean here, so I'll just play some music and we'll come in.
	Do you want any coffee to come in with?
	Um, no.
	I might pick something and then go to our caller.
	I think that sums it up that Carrie Lake will be running with Trump.
	What?
	Carrie Lake will be running with Trump.
	That sums it up there.
	Who said that?
	That's what I think.
	If she wins governor in a swing state, absolutely she's not.
	Dr. G is in the house on America First.
	You know when you have a connection, like that Vulcan mind meld with somebody?
	It's very good if it's your producer.
	I was thinking about a certain potential vice president candidate.
	I was thinking she actually has chops to be a presidential candidate eventually.
	Somebody just said the same thing in the break which our viewers on Rumble get to hear our chats in the background.
	Don't forget the video stream is rumble.com slash sebgorka where we post all of our interviews rumble.com slash s-e-b-g-o-r-k-a.
	What did you say in the break Mr G?
	Um, that I think Carrie Lake might be Trump's running mate.
	Carrie Lake, the very impressive former newscaster who is now running for the governorship of?
	Arizona.
	And increasingly impressive, right?
	Yes, and it's an important swing state.
	Right.
	I think that could be a real ticket.
	And it's a state where if she's governor, she's not going to let the nonsense go on that went on last time with the mail-in ballots.
	Right, so she's got a couple of years to prove herself, build her reputation as a governor, and then we've got a woman vice president, a hardcore MAGA person for the Veep in 2024.
	Yeah, I love it.
	I think that could be a real, real winning ticket.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Al, California.
	Welcome.
	Happy Friday, Al.
	How you doing, Sebastian?
	This is your least accomplished speaker here.
	I've got two questions.
	One's historical.
	Colonel Lewis had invented the first light machine gun, took it before the weapons board in the United States had passed all the tests, including being fired from an aircraft, and they wouldn't adopt it.
	So he took it to England, England adopted it, and used it successfully in both World Wars.
	Now, Colonel Lewis He signed his money back to the U.S.
	government, and no less, and Winston Churchill called him an outstanding American.
	We've done that before.
	We've invented stuff that other countries have used, and we ended up not using them, so he was really railroaded.
	Now, here's my second question.
	You've probably heard about this.
	Out here in California, this guy was out with Laura Ingraham, and there was also a lady rebutting this guy.
	They want you to disclose, in order to enroll your kid in a public school, That you keep guns in your house.
	And she pointed out that's an invasion of privacy.
	It's an invasion of the Second Amendment.
	There were three problems with it.
	But you see, they'll always do anything they can do to nibble around the edges.
	I'm surprised they don't blame earthquakes and the drought on the Second Amendment out here.
	So, I was wondering if you'd heard about that.
	Well, I've heard about that, but it's even worse than that.
	We've heard of various different jurisdictions with doctors who are doing the same thing.
	Who are, you know, when they're doing a check-up and they're in with the pediatrician, the child is being asked as to whether or not their parents have weapons at home, have guns at home.
	It's an outrage.
	San Jose wants you to, there are 50,000 gun owners in San Jose.
	They want you to insure each gun individually.
	And that'll stop the criminals!
	That'll stop the people who get the guns out of the back of the trunk of the Walmart at 2am.
	Thank you, Al.
	Yes, the Lewis machine gun.
	Classic.
	Water-cooled.
	Part of history.
	Deployed by the Brits in World War I. You know your stuff!
	But of course you do.
	You're an America First listener.
	Stay with us.
	Much more to come.
	The End
	Mics are back on.
	All right.
	I shall time up.
	Mopscub Channel 1.
	Three minutes. - Yes.
	Calling him up now.
	Hello, Boris.
	Yes, we can hear you.
	Calling him up now.
	Will you coordinate with Trata?
	Hey, can you hear me?
	Hello, Boris.
	Yes, we can hear you.
	Can you hear us?
	Yeah, yeah, hold on.
	My camera's not working out.
	Call me back here in two seconds.
	I'm sorry, hang on a second.
	Oh, okay.
	He hung up.
	I guess he wants to... He wants to redial.
	It was faint, I could barely hear him.
	When is CPAC again?
	End of the month.
	Okay.
	Which weekdays are you guys gonna be on?
	Thursday and Friday.
	Got it.
	Boris!
	Boris!
	No Trish this week?
	Now it says busy.
	She was on with Jen.
	She was on with Jen on Wednesday.
	Ah, good.
	Now it says he is busy.
	Okay.
	So guess what my son just did?
	What did he do?
	He had his first surgery class dissecting it.
	My son texted me this last night.
	That's when you realize you've got a hardcore dude as your son.
	Uh-oh.
	He says, um, I just got a human heart out of someone and held it in my hand.
	I found my calling.
	Oh, my God.
	Oh, boy.
	That's pretty funny.
	They were dead.
	They were dead.
	Just to make sure.
	But, you know, he said nobody wanted to volunteer.
	It was still beating.
	And he said, OK.
	Yes, Boris, we have you on the air.
	You look like you're in an interrogation cell.
	Where are you?
	Is this a local police station, Boris?
	They got me.
	They got the Baron!
	They got the Baron!
	Can we send you a file and a cake or something?
	Guilty of insurrection.
	It's the subpoenas.
	It's the subpoenas.
	What did you call it?
	Subpoena orgy.
	What did you call it?
	The orgy of subpoenas.
	That was before I got one.
	All right, we're gonna have lots of fun.
	Let's start with Whoopi, and let's just enjoy ourselves.
	Happy Friday.
	Happy Friday.
	Shabbat shalom.
	Shabbat shalom.
	All right, 25 seconds.
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	It's Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	But more important than that...
	Boris Epstein is on deck.
	He is in an undisclosed location.
	Very, very interesting, sterile white room, white walls.
	We don't know where it is.
	We don't need to know.
	We just need the Baron.
	Boris, happy Friday.
	Happy Friday.
	Oh, oh, the Skype is getting in the way.
	All right, let's see if we can... Oh, deep state.
	Deep state!
	Deep state.
	OK, we're back, we're back.
	OK, can I spoil your Friday for you?
	Please don't.
	I mean, it's Shabbos.
	I'm feeling good.
	He's getting ready for a cigar.
	OK, we haven't spoken since this whole thing broke.
	OK, I'll do it this way.
	I have no mercy, no pity, none.
	I have this much pity, which is none, for Whoopi Goldberg.
	Karen, what's her name?
	Karen something, her real name.
	People on the right are saying, oh, you can't do, you can't celebrate this when they're trying to cancel Joe Rogan.
	Sorry, I don't buy it.
	Council culture is trying to destroy people for political opinions.
	Saying the Holocaust wasn't racist isn't a political statement.
	It's heinous.
	Boris, am I wrong?
	Have I missed something here?
	You're totally not wrong.
	You know, here's the problem.
	The left does not believe That they are supposed to play and act by the same rules as are applied to conservatives and MAGA, and we've got to be universal.
	Now, I will tell you, and I tweeted this, we actually have got this horrible rise of anti-Semitism that's happening, and it's happening from the left, okay?
	You've got this hateful anti-Israel, anti-Semitism rise that is very, very concerning, very troubling, okay?
	Whoopi Goldberg herself, nobody really cares about Whoopi Goldberg.
	No!
	She's a sideshow.
	The view is a joke.
	And I actually tweeted, I hope Whoopi Goldberg being so wrong about the Holocaust is the worst thing that happens to our people for the foreseeable future.
	I'm not optimistic about that.
	Right.
	But having said that, the problem is, when you do not recognize that the Holocaust was a systematic undertaking, To race a people.
	To annihilate a race.
	The Jewish people.
	You are minimizing the Holocaust.
	You're trivializing the Holocaust.
	And here's what I'll say.
	And maybe, you know, I think I'm right about this, but, you know, people can disagree.
	How about just keeping the Holocaust out of people's mouths?
	You know?
	How about being respectful to the six million men, women, and beautiful children slaughtered By the hateful Germans and all their henchmen.
	If you undermined, you know, the anti-slavery, if you said that, you know, slavery... Oh, that thing's gone forever.
	Could you imagine if she said that about slavery?
	Oh, well, slavery wasn't about race.
	It was about, oh, I don't know, economics.
	Would we be okay with that, Boris?
	Would anybody?
	No.
	And that's the troubling thing in this country, and troubling thing in the liberal movement.
	Because of intersectionalism, right?
	This belief that everybody white is bad, effectively.
	You know, the Jewish people have now become, they've gone from being sort of a minority that's protected, right?
	A minority that saw millions wiped away, to now being somehow the bad guys.
	And oh, Israel is this terrible apartheid state.
	You know, Mehdi Hassan literally has a show on MSNBC that is Just straight-up anti-semitic speak.
	All it is is just... How does a guy who you have videos of, I played them this week, Mehdi Hasan has videos where he's railing about, you know, the animals who are gay, the animals who are heathens, who aren't Muslims, and he gets a show, Boris?
	On cable TV?
	On MSNBC, which is supposed to be liberal.
	That is the hypocrisy of liberals, right, Sebastian?
	That is why the Democrat Party, the liberal movement are falling apart.
	Because they don't have a truth.
	They don't have an honesty.
	They're not coming from an honest place.
	You know, it's all, oh, you know, Israel is bad, and the Palestinians are good.
	Well, they're throwing gays off buildings and murdering them, right?
	Well, I guess, okay, that's bad.
	How do we square that?
	Well, you can't.
	You can't square that.
	And the problem is, for the liberals, is that Israel is the only true democracy in the Middle East.
	And it's a Jewish state, and no matter how much the Linda Sarsours, the Lana Amars, the AOCs, Rashida Tlaibs, want to drive this anti-Semitic agenda, in the end they face up to the truth.
	And the truth is that Israel is the source of good in the Middle East, and then the Jewish people have built a heaven.
	In a haven, in a heaven, in just about 75 years, and there's a lot to be proud of.
	Yeah.
	And great news out of Israel, especially for our tour to the Middle East, our Stand With Israel tour.
	They are completely revising their COVID policies.
	They realize the 100% vaccination was crazy, and they're even going to get rid of their vaccine passports.
	So guys, don't forget, join us, the StandWithIsraelTour.com, StandWithIsraelTour.com.
	Boris, okay, I'm going to continue to destroy your Friday movie.
	Oh my God.
	Because you... I was so happy!
	You're too happy.
	You're just too much of a happy warrior.
	I'm going to help you medicate that a little bit.
	Thanks.
	Are you a New Yorker?
	Do you consider yourself to be a New Yorker?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	I came to this country, to New York, lived in New York for, what, 15 years overall.
	I do consider myself a New Yorker.
	So let me play this.
	This is from Fox.
	It's got, I think it's got some music over it, but that's fine.
	This is Fox going onto the streets of New York to talk to New Yorkers.
	And it's, it's bad.
	Play cut.
	Crime is becoming very an issue.
	I know people won't get on the subway.
	People rearrange their day around it.
	Crime is out of control in New York City.
	When you get too lax, these type of things happen.
	During these times, you know, people are desperate.
	It's all political.
	That's why he's coming.
	So you see, that's why Biden's coming, every ethnicity, black, white, young, old, they say it's out of control, Boris.
	It is.
	Does this have political ramifications or do we write New York off?
	No, it's got major ramifications.
	This was New York in the 70s and 80s and early 90s, right?
	And when we came here in 93, it was just the beginning of Rudy Giuliani.
	It was just the beginning of Rudy Giuliani.
	And I think Rudy won in 93, right?
	And then in 94 was inaugurated for his first term.
	I believe that was the cadence.
	That's right.
	If you look at the history of New York, you've got these terrible, in the last 50 years, you've got these terrible periods of time of liberal rule, which is a mess.
	It's a disaster.
	Everything's falling apart.
	It's bankrupt.
	Murders up the wazoo.
	It is absolutely horrible.
	And then a strong Republican comes in, that's what Rudy Giuliani did, and he cleaned up New York with Bill Bratton and Bernie Kerik.
	They cleaned up New York in a very, very real way.
	And I fully believe that's what could possibly happen here now.
	Eric Adams, to me, I'm not as sold on him as some others.
	I think there's a lot of promise there, but he's not been delivering on it so far.
	No.
	But I do think that this term is seminal for Democrats.
	If Adams cannot step in there and say, "I'm resolving this, and I'm gonna solve the problem, I'm gonna solve the crime, I'm gonna solve the homelessness, the drug problem," then you're gonna see somebody run who's a real strong conservative.
	Not a guy in a funny hat like they had the last time, but a real opponent, somebody strong, who's gonna run and say, "I'm gonna save New York City." Then the people in New York are gonna be all for it because in their heart, the people in New York are tough, they're pragmatic, and they care about safety.
	And that's personal safety and it's economic safety.
	And if the Democrats are not delivering either, then they're going to be out the door.
	How about this theory that Biden didn't go to the actual funerals for Wilbert Mora and for Jason Rivera because he was afraid that the NYPD would turn his back on him or heckle him.
	Do you think that's why he didn't go to the funerals, Boris?
	Well, it's either that, or he was taking his usual three-day-long nap.
	But in all seriousness, the NYPD has an unbelievable strength about it.
	You know, and again, Bernie Kerik is a mutual friend of ours, the former police commissioner.
	But, you know, the head of the New York PBA, Pat Lynch, is a friend, and he's a real star and a leader.
	Remember the New York PBA, the Police Benevolent Association of New York, they endorsed President Trump in 2020, having never endorsed a candidate, or at least not in the previous 50 years, I believe, endorsed a candidate.
	So Joe Biden doesn't want to be around that.
	And Joe Biden really shouldn't be in New York City, because New Yorkers don't want some weakling from Delaware coming in, doesn't even know where he is or what day it is, and is just going on and waffling about nothing, mumbling about nothing.
	This administration is the worst in the history of this country.
	I've said this before, I'll say it again.
	It's worse than James Buchanan, worse than Hoover, worse than Carter, worse than Obama.
	This is a disaster.
	Jimmy Carter is sitting around saying, hey, this guy made me look like FDL.
	He's all happy.
	The one person who's happy about the Biden administration is that peanut farmer, Jimmy Carter.
	We're out of time, Boris.
	Will you come on my show this Sunday on Newsmax?
	Will you do that?
	My friend, for you anything, absolutely, it will be an honor.
	We're gonna have fun, tune in this Sunday, Newsmax, 7pm Eastern, 10pm Eastern, BorisEP.com, BorisEP on Twitter, all the other platforms as well.
	We just call him the Baron.
	Have a fabulous Friday, happy Shabbat.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network, coming to you live from the reliefactor.com studios.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network, coming to you live from the
	Can you connect us with your buddy Pat?
	You know what?
	I'll get his content from Birdie Carrick.
	Okay, great.
	Okay, you want him on the show?
	Yeah, yeah, get him on.
	Perfect.
	I'll reach out right now.
	Thanks, buddy.
	All right, guys.
	See you Sunday.
	Enjoy the cigar.
	I'll see you on Sunday.
	Yeah, I see what you did there.
	See you, buddy.
	We made it work.
	Bye.
	Thanks, Sebastian.
	All right, mic's on.
	Jim, you can go on and Just that.
	Oh, and titles, if you can think of anything, for Gertz and or the Baron.
	Three minutes, and the mics are on, as always.
	Hey, Mike!
	Oh, there he goes.
	You see pits?
	I saw that in some report about him.
	But nobody told him to overturn it.
	basically said Biden, Trump is wrong about the election.
	You know, the American election, but it's the American people, he couldn't overturn it.
	But nobody told him to overturn it.
	Don't look at me.
	I know, I know.
	It'd be interesting.
	All right, Russia, what else is on your front burner?
	Genocidal, the genocide games.
	China, okay.
	Thanks for inviting me to that thing.
	Tell me what you want me to do.
	So, you know, so we just actually started this because, you know, just to get kids together after COVID.
	Are they interns or are they fellows?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	They're just folks working in town.
	So they're all in their... Was it like the fellows I briefed like a couple of years ago?
	No, these are just all people like in their 20s and 30s.
	They're all conservative.
	Basically, I took all my young people, like six of them, I said, you each have to go out and find six people and invite them.
	Oh, good.
	And so now we have this group of like 30, 40 people that they come and they drink and stuff.
	Are they better than Eric, at least?
	Yeah, they're like going par with him.
	On par.
	So, um, uh, so like last time you had Chad, and you know, he just, I just asked him to talk for a couple of minutes about his career.
	So like an informal Q&A?
	Yeah, in public service.
	Yeah, maybe a question or two.
	And then people just want to come up and chat and stuff like that.
	Okay, good.
	And then have a beer.
	Good.
	That's pretty much it.
	Sounds good.
	You're just, just draw.
	Like, it's a drawing card.
	We'll see how, we'll see how Gorka draws.
	What is the last cut?
	Oh, that's 10.
	Okay, we've had that.
	I really appreciate it.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Oh, cut eight.
	Can I see cut eight?
	Cut eight right here.
	Elections are in a couple of months' time, and I'm sure you are aware that the border is going to be an issue in the coming election.
	The first piece of legislation that sent to Congress was immigration reform.
	Literally, it was our first initiative to say we must have a pathway for citizenship.
	The problem is Congress is not acting.
	We must create a pathway to citizenship.
	This should not be partisan.
	Okay, I'll use that with Jim in the second segment.
	All righty.
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	And we do that every Friday with Jim Carofano of the Heritage Foundation, Vice President for all matters, national security and foreign policy.
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	Today's the day, Jim.
	It's opened the Genocide Olympics.
	That's what Marsha Blackburn called them when we opened the show today.
	Let's play a little cut from the Speaker of the House yesterday, Nancy Pelosi, on the athletes, the Americans, going to Beijing.
	Cut to.
	But the Chinese government works desperately to cover up their abuses, rewriting history and projecting a very different image to the world.
	I would say to our athletes, you're there to compete.
	Do not risk incurring the anger of the Chinese government because they are ruthless.
	I know there is a temptation on the part of some.
	to speak out while they are there.
	I respect that.
	But I also worry about what the Chinese government might do to their reputations, to their families.
	What about our reputation, John, when the Speaker of the House says that?
	Well, this is the problem.
	This was never about we're not doing a genocide.
	Of course we know we're doing a genocide.
	The whole scam here is nobody can look us in the eye and attack us for that.
	And what Pelosi just did is said, oh, we can't say anything to the Chinese because they're big and mad and scary.
	That's empowering and enabling.
	In terms of strategic risk, that's the biggest problem with the game.
	We're telling the Chinese there's no accountability For bullying everybody else.
	And the one thing I would really point to is the shameless, smug reporting of NBC, which pretends to say, oh, we are going to address these issues head on.
	And they'll say China genocide.
	And then they'll say, oh, yeah, but the Chinese say they're not having a genocide.
	How can there be two sides to a genocide story?
	And on so many of these issues, Where they say, well, the critics say this, and then they say, and the Chinese deny that.
	But many of these issues are things that are not he said, she said.
	There is undeniable factual evidence that the Chinese are lying.
	And a reporter has to acknowledge that.
	It's not like, you know, Hannibal Lecter says, you know, he's a vegetarian, right?
	Nobody believes that.
	And so, They're pretending that they're doing something about this, but they're actually just doing exactly what the Chinese want.
	They're being afraid.
	You're giving in to the bullies, is what you're doing.
	Exactly.
	And I just have to, you mentioned NBC.
	This is what NBC played today.
	These are the opening ceremonies, and I rail against whoever it is who's the Native English speaker who's acting on behalf of the Communist government.
	It sounds like an Australian.
	They're getting paid to do propaganda.
	This is what the Chinese government said about the opening ceremonies with the voiceover of this person who's working for them.
	Cut to him.
	Yeah, it's worth remembering that while Western countries may be boycotting these Olympics over human rights issues, China styles itself as a champion of the developing world.
	And it has plenty of support in countries from Africa to Latin America, where its investments are building up local economies.
	That's NBC playing the Chinese English language voiceover.
	They're a champion of the developing world, Jim.
	So they didn't mention the debt traps, right?
	So countries that they impoverish.
	And the reality is they're not a champion of the developing world.
	They go into these countries, they do these debt traps, seize their assets, or they're empowering, enabling corrupt officials and corrupt practices that are exploiting the people in these countries.
	OK, let's let's go through the list.
	Of all the countries who have been enabled and empowered by China and are successful and growing and prosperous today because of Chinese investments.
	And not exploited.
	Okay, we're done.
	Because you can't have dead air on a radio, right?
	But we're done.
	The answer is zero.
	In contrast, let's look at Lithuania.
	This is a tiny postage stamp country in the middle of Europe that can't hurt or harm anybody.
	And the Lithuanians decide, as free independent nations do, that they wanted to broaden and expand their outreach in Asia because Asia is a growing market, it's a growing important part of the world, so they've upped their relations with the With the Japanese, with the South Koreans, with the Indians, and they opened a Taiwan interest office in Lithuania.
	You would have thought they declared war on China, that this was like the Mouse That Roared movie.
	Literally the Chinese... What happened?
	The Chinese attacked Lithuania.
	They have been going around telling countries you can't trade with Lithuania, that if you trade with them you can't trade with us.
	The assault has been brutal and unrelenting on this tiny little country.
	That's the brutal behavior of this regime.
	I just want people to know the population of Lithuania is 2.8 million.
	Right.
	And give me one Chinese city.
	Just pick a Chinese city.
	I don't care.
	Any one.
	How many people?
	Well, I'll give you the population of China 1.4 billion.
	Let's do Xinjiang.
	Shanghai.
	So there's how many people?
	Shanghai, 26 million people.
	Right.
	And the Chinese are scared and terrified about two, three million Lithuanians, like, actually doing business with Taiwan.
	5,000 miles away.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Right.
	So this, and actually, you know, I think in the case of this, the Olympics and all the Chinese are investing to, you know, hide their evils, or brown bee people are these, but also about the Russians, you know, It shows that actually they're afraid of us.
	Why does Putin care?
	If NATO wasn't a thing, if NATO wasn't a real obstacle, he wouldn't care.
	If freedom and free speech and free economic systems, if these things really were not a problem, if China really was the world's buddy and friend and everybody wanted to race to be a suburb of Beijing, they wouldn't have to be doing this.
	But the bottom line here is all of this is great for China.
	They're going to come out of this profiting, aren't they?
	Well, and for the wrong reasons.
	Not because people are actually going to believe that the Chinese system is better, that the Chinese really aren't doing a genocide, that this is just the West getting up.
	What they will come out of this is we are powerful and people fear us and they fear Let's just play this.
	This is amazing.
	This is the point.
	So any Chinese politician, any bureaucrat can say on record, off the record, to another nation, to another bureaucrat, Did you see?
	Do you know who Nancy Pelosi is?
	She's, you know, the third most powerful person in America.
	Did you see what she said yesterday?
	She said to American athletes, they need to be afraid of us.
	That's golden, Jim!
	Exactly, and that's the big problem here.
	And they go, well, what do we care about Uyghurs?
	The answer is, dude, they're coming after us.
	And here's the thing, read their stuff.
	I know, it always helps.
	Read what the other guy says.
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	We're not even one day into this.
	When did the Lithuanian thing happen?
	That was like a month ago.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	That was a while ago.
	The Chinese just went apoplectic.
	Good for them.
	And then the Taiwanese made an $8 billion investment in Lithuania.
	Nice.
	Let's beat up some more.
	That's great.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah.
	Movies?
	Yeah, we should do that.
	Power of the Dog.
	Oh my God, it's so bad.
	What's that?
	Have you ever seen Power of the Dog?
	What is that?
	It's one of the, probably going to be one of the Oscar nominees.
	It's a Western with, what's his name, Cumberbunch.
	Oh, oh, oh, I watched it.
	Like really slow.
	So slow.
	Right, yeah.
	Horrible.
	We got through about 40 minutes of it and we just.
	We watched every painful second.
	Oh my gosh.
	You saw Belfast, right?
	What?
	You saw Belfast, right?
	No, I haven't seen it yet.
	You haven't watched it?
	I haven't seen it yet.
	It's such a beautiful movie.
	Such a beautiful movie.
	The scenery was nice in Power of the Dog.
	The scenery was amazing.
	Of course, but it was a horrible movie.
	It reminds me of...
	Not Heaven's Gate, but the other... Reds?
	No, Days of Heaven.
	What's that?
	Another old western, very same kind of thing.
	Girl marries a rich guy and her boyfriend poses as her brother, right?
	And she marries the rich guy to kind of exploit him, but then she kind of falls in love with him and then somebody gets murdered.
	Who's in it?
	I can't remember.
	We just finished a really good show.
	Oh, it's like from the 80s.
	Have you seen Harrow on Hulu?
	No, I don't have Hulu.
	No.
	What's it called?
	Harrow, H-A-R-R-O-W, Harrow.
	It's a pathologist in Brisbane in Australia.
	Oh, really?
	By that Welsh actor who played Hornblower.
	Oh, nice.
	Ian Grafford.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, it's really good.
	Only three seasons, but it's very, it's a lot of fun.
	What was that one that the guy that played Doctor Who, who was like... Tennant, David Tennant?
	Yeah.
	The Scottish guy?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Was it him or the other guy?
	No, it wasn't.
	It wasn't him.
	It was the guy with the big hair.
	No, it was the guy who was in 28 weeks, 28 weeks later.
	Oh, the first guy, the first guy after they relaunched it.
	The northerner, the guy from, oh my gosh, what do you mean?
	Yeah, the evil British soldier in 28 days.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	In the 28 weeks later, he was the He's like a Scottish guy or something.
	He played this detective in... Yeah, that's David Tennant.
	Is that David Tennant?
	Yeah.
	Broadchurch, I think.
	Broadchurch, yeah.
	He was the bad guy in Jennifer Jones.
	Alright, 30 seconds.
	We've got Car 15 and Patriot Mobile here.
	I'd much rather talk movies than the board.
	This Mermaid in Mexico thing is a total scandal.
	That's up to the beyond.
	All right, 10 seconds.
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	We've got to keep our focus on the border when it comes to national security as well.
	Zoom interview with the person who is the point policy individual for the border, none other than the vice president.
	This is what she had to say to Telemundo about the current regime.
	Cut eight, play cut.
	Elections are in a couple of months time and I'm sure you are aware that the border is going to be an issue in the coming election.
	The first piece of legislation that sent to Congress was immigration reform.
	It literally, it was our first initiative to say we must have a pathway for citizenship.
	The problem is Congress is not acting.
	We must create a pathway to citizenship.
	This should not be partisan.
	So the problem is just pathway to citizenship and it's all Congress's fault, Jim.
	Well, that's not immigration reform.
	That's a scoff law.
	What you want to do is pass a law that incentivizes illegal immigration and you're rewarded by citizenship.
	Even more.
	That's not reform.
	That's just nonsense.
	This administration has no intention of securing this border.
	You know, so there's the Remain in Mexico.
	So actually Remain in Mexico has been on the book since 1996.
	The authority to send people back to Mexico to adjudicate a claim before they come into the United States.
	So Trump is the first guy that did it seriously.
	It was an enormous deterrent.
	Because if you think about it, you're spending thousands of dollars to come here and you get here and you get sent right back.
	You're not going to spend that money again, and other people are going to think twice about that.
	Individual immigration judges were doing hundreds of people a day, and it was enormously effective.
	Biden killed it on day one when he came in.
	A court ordered him to reinstate it.
	Okay, each judge was doing hundreds a day.
	Do you know how many people the Biden administration did on day one of Remain in Mexico?
	How many cases they took up?
	How many?
	Four.
	At best, they will probably send back two.
	And Mexico has said they'll take up to three.
	This isn't a joke, Jim.
	You're not pulling my leg.
	And Mayorkas actually said, look, in so many words, he said, we are just paying lip service to the judge because we hope this gets overturned in the Supreme Court and we can kill the program.
	So here's a question.
	You know, you're an expert on this.
	You've got all the great people at Heritage right now, like Mark Morgan, everybody else.
	This administration's policies on the border, they're illegal, right?
	I mean, they're in contravention of statute on how to handle illegal aliens.
	There's video of people being flown around by CIA contractors under cover of darkness.
	I mean, it's certainly in contravention of the intention of the law.
	We have an immigration law to have an immigration system.
	We have border security to have a border.
	When you have policies that are intentionally doing that, whether they follow the discretion under the law, they're violating the intent of the law.
	There's no question about that.
	We've got three million people illegally coming to the United States.
	People are saying, well, why are we sending troops to NATO's border?
	Why don't we send troops to our border?
	I don't know how many we're going to wind up sending.
	Maybe pick a number, like 9,000 troops, 10,000 troops to NATO to reinforce our NATO allies.
	If you sent 10,000 troops to our border, you could dramatically, overnight, Working with the Border Patrol is significant.
	And the reason why I know that is because we've done it before.
	Trump did it.
	Yeah.
	So we know that a troop deployment to the border would significantly aid.
	And it's not like it's a choice between we can meet our obligations under NATO or we can secure our border.
	We've got over two million people in uniform.
	Yeah.
	You know, we could probably... We could walk and chew gum.
	60 seconds left.
	We haven't done it for three weeks, Jim.
	Give us something good to watch.
	Oh, well, what not to watch?
	You cannot watch Power of the Dog.
	Too late!
	I've seen it!
	This is a movie that is up for an Oscar.
	It's a western.
	It's like watching a Terrence Malick.
	If Terrence Malick had made a western and tied people to a chair and put toothpicks in their eyes to make them watch it, it would be so boring and awful.
	Beautiful scenery.
	No, no, it's a horrible movie.
	Don't do that.
	Do this.
	Do this.
	Go.
	I think you can probably do it on YouTube for free.
	Go watch The Magnificent Seven.
	It is still perhaps the most perfect Western ever made.
	Okay, I know it's not a John Ford film.
	Somebody just tweeted this out.
	I can't believe it.
	Somebody I follow.
	Sexiest bald man in the world.
	Yul Brynner.
	How is that a question?
	How is that a question?
	The most fantastic music.
	Cost.
	Cost.
	The best.
	The message.
	The best characters.
	I mean, just these exquisite characters.
	Okay, kill his mic.
	He's out of time.
	Next week we're going to start with the movies because people enjoy his recommendations so much.
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	So we've got to talk with our special Second Amendment guest.
	He is the man behind the Gun Collective.
	John Patton, welcome back to America First!
	Thanks for having me back.
	How are you?
	Good, good, good, good.
	I enjoyed your latest post about that very funky folding handgun.
	Completely new kind of design there.
	Do you think that thing's gonna fly, buddy?
	No, I don't.
	I really, I don't.
	I think it's a really unique design.
	And there are some really interesting concepts going on.
	But there's also a lot of flaws to go with it.
	You know, not having a removable magazine and having a complex set of operations that's completely different than anything else.
	Yeah, because those cartridges at the top of the gun feeding down that is funky.
	That's like a five seven PDW.
	You know, it's very interesting.
	Yeah, it's it's a neat concept.
	You know, it's a fixed magazine design.
	For anybody listening.
	It's called the ounce from a company called third day.
	Really, really interesting design, but $900 price tag.
	Yeah.
	And really complex setup.
	It's going to be tough to convince people.
	And ugly.
	It's ugly.
	When a gun is funky and cheap, maybe.
	But when it's ugly and expensive, that's hard to sell.
	Right, John?
	Yeah, it really is.
	It's got to look cool.
	Alright, guys, you've got to follow this channel, The Gun Collective, on YouTube, giving you industry news you actually care about, on Twitter as well, at The Gun Collective.
	You didn't go to SHOT Show, right?
	That's correct.
	But you have been filling the airwaves on YouTube with all the products that were launched, the SHOT Show.
	You've got to check them out.
	Can you talk to us?
	Things have slowed down, haven't they?
	In terms of firearms purchases of late.
	It's not the insanity of the last year, is it, John?
	It's the second.
	2021 was the second highest year on record by 900,000 less than 2020.
	the second highest year on record by 900,000 less than 2020.
	So it's still quite high, you know, it's still quite high.
	However, things definitely have started to taper off.
	I think people that wanted to panic buy already did so.
	And I think the COVID stuff really spawned a lot of that.
	And now that that is starting to settle down, that government overreach feeling is starting to settle down, at least in people's brains, they've heard all the rhetoric by now.
	So they're like, Oh, I'm not as worried about it.
	So I think that's that's all participating in it.
	I think supply chain is starting to catch back up.
	And prices on ammo is starting to drop back down to more reasonable levels.
	Not not pre pandemic, but more reasonable for sure.
	What was the figure though?
	I think you mentioned in one of your videos, did we have 5 million new firearms owners last year?
	Is that right?
	Yeah, according to a study done by NSSF, there is There was 5.4 million new gun owners just in the last year, and they are really, really buying a lot of guns, and it's great!
	It's on average more than one firearm, right?
	It's 1.6, 1.5 firearms per person, right?
	That's correct, yeah.
	So to see, you know, 1.6 average per person means that there's a healthy chunk of people out there not just buying one, not just buying a handgun.
	They're going and going to buy two and that likely means that there are going to be a lot more firearms enthusiasts And a lot more people at the polls voting for pro-gun candidates.
	Welcome to the family, dear friends.
	Welcome aboard.
	However, disturbing developments.
	We're seeing the ATF raid dealers give cease and desist to manufacturers on these perfectly legal forced reset triggers.
	What's the latest on that, John?
	Is the ATF just out of control again?
	The ATF has never stopped being out of control.
	Let's be real about that.
	They have gone unchecked and now that the dementia patient in charge is running things, it's not going to stop.
	It's not going to stop.
	They are going to push as far as they possibly can.
	They're going to try to take things to the courts and hopefully we get a big win where necessary.
	We need to kick them square in the nuts because this kind of crap where they're harassing You know, businesses that are legal, by definition, they're producing legal products.
	This just can't fly.
	And I don't know what it's going to take to stop them, but it's not great.
	It's not great.
	Who do you like in terms of organizations that are pushing back, John?
	Who do you subscribe to?
	You know, I really like Gun Owners of America.
	I really like FTC.
	Second Amendment Foundation is great.
	And I also like a group called Hold My Guns.
	They're coming at things from a different angle to try and work to help with suicide and still maintain rights.
	And they are somebody to watch, that's for sure.
	Interesting, Hold My Guns.
	Okay, we've got a minute left.
	John Patton, The Gun Collective, give us a little bit of a tease, a little bit of a sneak.
	What are you preparing for some of your next videos?
	You know what, we're bringing back reviews.
	This is something that a lot of people have been asking about, you know, what happened, what happened.
	I was doing a lot of the hosting and we actually got a new guy that we're bringing on.
	We're kind of training him and he's going to be hosting the reviews and hopefully bringing A totally different personality and perspective to what we're doing.
	We've got a lot of guns coming in to prepare.
	A lot of, like, some of the new Smith & Wessons.
	Some of the new Bull Armory stuff.
	We've got some great stuff on deck.
	Oh man!
	Bull Armory sent me one of their Micro-9 911s double stack.
	Dude, that thing is like a laser.
	Yeah, it's freaking fantastic, and they've got some even cooler stuff coming.
	Very impressive.
	Just tell your new guy, make sure, John, that you do give him the indoctrination on the first day of staff that 10mm is the best calibre, OK?
	I know you like 50, but, you know, 10 is right up there, OK, John?
	You know, I'll tell you this, he's already hand-loading his own 10mm.
	Wow.
	Yeah, this guy knows what he's doing.
	Can't wait to see that, dude.
	Load it to the original Norma specs because that was hot stuff, not the garbage that they downloaded later.
	John Patton, The Gun Collective, God bless.
	Can't wait to meet you on the range someday.
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	As reported by Jeff over here, breaking news, a Virginia judge rules against Yunkin's mask mandate repeal.
	At what level?
	It was like a single judge.
	It said Virginia judge, so I'm not sure.
	State judge, yeah.
	Wow.
	I have the pens cut if you want it.
	Uh, yeah, can you come in with it?
	Is it long?
	It's like 30 some seconds.
	Okay, come in with it.
	And then how long is Westchester?
	It is 45 seconds.
	Alright, I'll use both.
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	There are those in our party who believe that, as the presiding officer over the joint session of Congress, that I possess unilateral authority to reject electoral college votes.
	And I heard this week that President Trump said I had the right to overturn the election.
	President Trump is wrong.
	I had no right to overturn the election.
	The presidency belongs to the American people and the American people alone.
	And frankly there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president.
	Nobody said that you could choose the American president.
	That is Mike Pence confirming the death of his political career.
	The only thing You were asked to do is to send back the electoral college results to the four battleground states where the vote counting was suspended and magically reversed the results in the course of a few hours.
	But you didn't have the backbone to do that.
	That's why Mike Pence will forever be an irrelevance in the political life of America.
	That's the cut that's making all the news.
	Okay, more breaking news.
	A Virginia judge has struck Lock down the new governor's no-mask regulation in Virginia schools.
	I'd love to know who that judge is.
	We'll find out their curriculum vitae.
	But the fight continues because we have to take back our country from those who are betraying it.
	I'm going to play this as much as I can.
	The police video from Westchester Airport as the Biden administration was smuggling illegal aliens across America using CIA contractors.
	These are the contractors challenged by the police.
	spotlight.
	Yeah.
	We want to tell people as down low as possible.
	A lot of this is just down low stuff that we don't tell people.
	Because what we don't want to do is attract attention.
	We don't want the media.
	Yeah.
	Like, we don't even know where we're going when they tell us.
	I get the whole secrecy and all this but this is even about my you know what I mean?
	And why?
	You know why?
	You know why.
	Yeah, I know, but why?
	What's the big secret?
	Everybody knows what's happening.
	You know why?
	Because the government gets out.
	The government's betraying the American people.
	You know why?
	Because if this gets out, the government is betraying the American people.
	Yes.
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	Are we on the brink of World War III?
	If it occurs, will it be caused by my next guest?
	Well, he is a bomb thrower, metaphorically speaking.
	Senior columnist for the Townhall.com website that is part of the Salem empire to which we belong.
	I call him Colonel K. Welcome back to One-on-One.
	Kurt Schlichter!
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Now, isn't the Washington football team now the Washington columnists?
	The Washington Commodores.
	I think it's Commodores.
	Columnists.
	Collaborators.
	Fifth columnists.
	Communists.
	Yes, the manager.
	Not a popular individual.
	I think this new branding is going to be about as popular as he is.
	But I don't know anything about sports.
	But as my War College buddy, let's talk about World War Three, let's talk about impending civil wars or not.
	You being, of course, the author of the fabulous Callie Turnbull series of a nation collapsed in the civil war that ensues.
	But first things first, thousands of troops deployed from Bragg.
	You've got decades in uniform serving this nation, ending up as a colonel, deployed to the Middle East, to Bosnia.
	Well, look, they're sending a few thousand guys.
	Do I ever need to say unvarnished to Kurt Stricker?
	I just need your opinion.
	Is this a Potemkin village?
	2,000 guys going to Poland or the Baltics?
	What does Vlad think about Sleepy Creepy's national security acumen, Kurt?
	Well, look, they're sending a few thousand guys.
	By way of comparison, when I was a battalion commander during the San Diego fires, I had about two battalions – I was about 1,400, a little under 1,400 guys.
	When I was a deputy commander... And you were still scared, right?
	And you were still scared in L.A.?
	Well, you know, it's called self-preservation, Dr. Gorky.
	But no, it's not a lot of guys.
	And I'm trying to figure out, you know, what it is is, you know, they say, I'm going to send 3,000 troops and people go, wow, that's a lot of troops.
	And I'm like, yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, 3,000 is a lot of guys, but it's not a lot of guys.
	And it doesn't sound to me like they're sending, you know, systems.
	You don't deploy guys.
	When somebody starts saying, I'm sending 3,000 guys, I immediately go, okay, amateur.
	I want to know what units and what supporting forces and systems they're sending.
	I want to know what they're backed up with.
	You know, the 82nd Airborne, you send a battalion.
	If you say, I'm sending a thousand guys, you're really talking probably about a battalion plus some support guys.
	Okay, what are you actually sending?
	Right.
	What is concretely, what is concrete?
	Is it 2,000 guys who are going to be MPs, pontoon builders, or running the DFAC?
	These are different things, right?
	They are different things.
	And okay, you send a battalion, great.
	A battalion, these are very tough guys, and you don't want to get in a one-on-one fight with them, but they don't fight one-on-one, they fight as part of a system.
	They've got fires.
	They've got aerial fires.
	They've got unmanned fires.
	They've got artillery fires of various types from mortars up to MLRS and maybe, you know, missiles and stuff.
	I mean, what are you sending?
	The military is not a garage band where you got two guitarists and a drummer.
	It's a symphony.
	Nicely put.
	I think I may have used that in my time teaching at the various war colleges.
	It is a symphony and the conductor is the strategist.
	Exactly.
	So if you're not sending battlefield operating systems, what you're doing is sending a message, which is something too.
	That's an information operation.
	This information operation is supposed to show Uh, the commitment of Americans.
	My question is, who's it targeting?
	Is it targeting Putin?
	Because he's going to look at it, his generals are going to go, they sent a battalion from the 82nd at Sing in Romania.
	It can't do anything.
	We have 120,000 mechanized forces.
	This is exactly where I wanted to go.
	So let's get really concrete.
	Other people don't want to talk about this.
	They want to stay in the lane of, well, this is a form of diplomacy.
	So if we deploy 2,000, if we deploy 5,000 to Romania or to the Baltic states or to Poland or anywhere else, say that Putin invades Ukraine anyway.
	Captures Kiev, does, you know, a circumvention of the major cities, cuts them off from the rest of the country.
	They're relatively close to the border so he can do that.
	Yeah, so what does the 2,000 US troops in countries like Romania that are nowhere close to the action, what does it mean?
	Do they get deployed?
	Do they sit there?
	Do they have photo opportunities?
	What is the strategic value of the deployment?
	Let's just talk.
	Let's talk Turkey.
	Well, here's the thing.
	They're not going to do anything because a battalion of light infantry in front of mech without the battlefield operating systems behind you, you're effectively speed bumps.
	And look, the 82nd is a fine unit and very, very tough, and it would go down fighting and it would lose because it's going to be hit with a bunch of tanks and mechanized forces backed up with integrated artillery fires and all that other stuff.
	And they don't have it.
	We're not sending Kurt?
	Kurt?
	Hang on.
	We lost you.
	We lost you.
	Can you just finish the sentence, and we're not sending.
	Finish that.
	And if we're not sending completely integrated battlefield systems, our light infantry is effectively speed bumps.
	They'll take some of the enemy, but they'll go down.
	They will go down because they can't stand against tanks.
	And mechanized forces without their artillery fires and aerial fires and all that thing behind them.
	I mean, my primary killing system as a cavalry officer was not the guns that my guys carried.
	It was the ability to call in air power or artillery.
	Artillery has the quality all of its own and that's what softens up the battlefield for the mechanized troops to go and clean up.
	It certainly does.
	So my question is, we know this is an information operation because There's just not enough combat power to shift the balance in Ukraine, at least not American combat power.
	Who's the target of the information operation?
	I think it's the people of America.
	Yeah, it's the voters.
	Yes.
	So that's who the information operation is targeted against.
	It's not Putin.
	Putin knows exactly what's going on.
	Putin knows if he wants to go in, we are not going to be able to stop him militarily.
	Are there other ways we can do it?
	Well, we have diplomatic information.
	and economic levers that we can pull in addition to military ones.
	But look, if you told me President Biden has initiated reforger, return of forces to Germany, which is the exercise we used to go through when I was in the Cold War, and you would have a bunch of ships and tens of thousands of guys, and they'd open up the Pomca stocks, and you would have a bunch of ships and tens of thousands of guys, and they'd open up the Pomca stocks, and the M1s would start
	Then I'd go, ooh, okay, maybe this isn't just an information operation, but that's not what we're doing.
	Let me unpack that a little bit.
	You use this fascinatingly.
	I haven't heard anybody else say this so far, that what this administration is actually executing is an information operation on its own population.
	So when I was a DoD civilian and teaching counterterrorism, every Friday I'd attend General McChrystal's AFPAC meetings in the Pentagon and the Joint Chiefs.
	This was a low-side, unclassified VTC video teleconference from the bowels of the Pentagon to Kabul, to our guys in ISAF in Kabul, to our outstations in Pakistan, in Islamabad, and every week
	It would be 20 minutes of, you know, the outstations reporting in, what are the updates, what are the SIG acts, how many VBIDs, how many vehicle-borne IEDs attacks have there been, what are the Taliban doing in XYZ province, and the rest of the hour would be a substantive briefing from a retired ambassador, one of these wonks in one of these think tanks here in the swamp, and after a couple of years of attending the Just loyally listening and asking some questions.
	A very wise person said to me, as things were not going well in Afghanistan, he asked, you know what?
	These teleconferences are actually meant for American audiences.
	This isn't about convincing NATO allies or our Afghan partners that we're winning.
	This is an attempt by the Pentagon to convince us that the long Stupid war is actually worth it.
	And it's one of the reasons that we elected President Trump.
	So, Kirsch, you nailed it.
	Yet again, we are seeing internal propaganda redux.
	We are trying to convince ourselves that this matters.
	When 2,000 guys in the face of a cold stone killer like a former KGB colonel who spent his formative time in the wrong part of Berlin, in East Berlin during the Cold War, who has publicly stated that the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century was the loss of the Soviet Union that who has publicly stated that the greatest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century was the loss of the Soviet Union that resulted in the deaths of tens of millions of Russians, of Soviets, of Ukrainians, of We're talking to Kurt Schlichter, Colonel K.
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	Kurt, I haven't rehearsed this with you.
	I'm a little trepidatious because you're a pugilistic fighter.
	We enjoy your Twitter content.
	I want us to talk mano a mano about the paucity of strategic thought, not in America.
	We get that.
	The guy in the White House is out to lunch.
	But on our side, on the conservative side, one of the reasons I accept it.
	I didn't need it.
	I accepted an extra job as national security editor for Breitbart way back when was because I saw really unsophisticated thinking on the right when it came to security policy.
	I saw two options.
	I saw the neocons, yes, invade places and you can turn them into the democracy at the end of a gun barrel.
	OK.
	And I saw the others, the proto, the neo-buchananites, like Tucker Carlson, say screw them all.
	Who cares?
	Pull down the shutters on the Pacific and on the Atlantic and the rest of the world can go to hell.
	Sadly, Kurt, despite You know, four years of President Trump describing another way, I think we're back where we were.
	And let me just illustrate what I mean.
	You have the Mar-a-Lago state dinner with Xi Jinping.
	We have, you know, the footage, the amazing footage of him there being feted by the president.
	And over chocolate cake, the Commander-in-Chief says, hey Xi, I just dropped 53 cruise missiles on the Syrian regime that was about to use cruise weapons.
	So, you know, not 2,000 troops to be as a speed bump, but not invading countries either.
	It's showing force surgically where required that sent a message to all dictators, not just to Xi.
	Doesn't Trump represent a kind of imaginative way of thinking of national security that we just don't see enough of on the right?
	Well, Dr. Gorka, I think what Donald Trump did is he approached each situation individually.
	For instance, if you came up to me and said, Kurt, what do you think of peacekeeping operation?
	Now, they have a pretty bad reputation.
	Right.
	Yet, I participated in one in Kosovo that was an unequivocal strategic success.
	We used a bunch of reservists with outside skills, went in, we didn't fight, we ended up helping these guys learn how to create a country, and now it's fantastically loyal and immeasurably peaceful.
	So I don't want to put any tool in the toolbox off limits.
	Yeah, sometimes you got to invade people.
	But my point is, it's not just a binary choice.
	For the longest time, it's invasion or isolationism.
	And I just, you know, how can we be so just prosaic, so pedestrian, Kurt?
	I think a lot of our first of all, I don't blame the civilians as much because they're I can't really expect them to be strategic thinkers the way I expect senior military people or senior people in military-adjacent organizations to be thinking.
	I do expect them to present options.
	And one of the things I saw, both at my level and one of the things that I believe happens at the higher level, is you get folks deciding what they want done, and that informs their courses of action to the commander.
	Whereas, you know, Ukraine, there are a variety of courses of action that should be presented, and they're not all military.
	They should integrate... Oh God, I don't want to say interagency process.
	I'm going to shoot you, Kurt, if you use D.C.
	garbage language.
	Synergistically, don't do it.
	But the thing is, you know, Biden should get everything from standoff and do nothing but whine to, you know, reforge her and put, you know, five mechanized divisions in there.
	And then he's the president, allegedly, and he gets to make that decision.
	But instead, I think that our leaders are presented with a very narrow range of options.
	And I don't know if they always have the experience to understand that the envelope is not all there is.
	You can think outside it.
	I mean, if I was president and they came in and they presented me a very narrow range of options, my first thing would be general.
	Why didn't you tell me about this option?
	Why didn't you tell me about that option?
	I mean, I've been an S3 at a brigade.
	I know this stuff.
	I worked for the G3.
	This is one of the greatest things about President Trump.
	There was no sacred cows, and he actually wanted innovative thinking.
	But I'm shocked at you, Colonel Kaye, that you are so...
	But they had also gone through World War II.
	We have a generation that doesn't have that experience.
	and we had the atchersons we we had the dulleses we we had the kennons we had people who'd never worn a uniform who actually could spell the word strategy and knew what it meant but they had also gone through world war ii yeah we have a generation that doesn't have that experience we don't have the cold war generation you look at every president uh president President Kennedy.
	Let's start with Eisenhower, of course.
	Heck, let's go back to Truman.
	Truman, World War I. Eisenhower, World War II.
	Kennedy, World War II.
	LBJ, sort of World War II.
	Nixon, sort of World War II.
	Ford, World War II.
	Jimmy Carter, military.
	Submariner, right?
	Naval Academy.
	Reagan?
	He was still in the military.
	And, of course, Bush.
	You had guys with some grounding in it.
	But, look, a lot of guys are impressed by generals, and that's a mistake.
	I think Winston Churchill understood best that you have to deal with generals with a whip and a chair.
	Because they have their own agenda, and they will tell you, if you let them guide you, rather than forcing them to advise you, as a civilian leader, you are going to find that you're doing what the generals want.
	And my feeling, if I was a civilian leader, is I am utterly indifferent to what the generals want.
	I want to know what they can do, I want to know what they think, and I want to know why.
	And then, you know, I'm the elected official.
	I'm going to make the decision.
	But we have a lot of deference to our military.
	Now, oddly enough, military, which used to be America's most popular institution, most respected one, if you look at the polling, actually that number's come down because the military's been screwing up.
	I think for a long time it took advantage of that.
	People were very impressed by it.
	I can't have questions of the military.
	Look at how many medals the guy has.
	You need to.
	People get flabby when they're not questioned.
	That includes four stars.
	Heck, maybe especially four stars.
	Strategy requires thought.
	And I think one of the problems with our briefing system, the way the military works, is it doesn't encourage thought.
	It encourages choices.
	And not only that, what I saw, having taught for more than seven, eight years in the JPME system, the Joint Professional Military Education system, is it just became, the higher the ranks, especially as you approach one star, the more politically minded the officers became and the more attuned they became to saying what they thought their political masters wanted to hear, which is never a good thing.
	We're talking to senior columnist townhall.com Kurt Schlichter.
	He's the author of the superb Kelly Turnbill series of books.
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	Okay, Kurt, super exciting with my publisher.
	You've told me you've dropped your new manuscript.
	He is constantly writing.
	He does not sleep.
	Seven, eight books published already.
	The next one, not a very Happy title.
	It is the fall and rise of America.
	Hopefully the rise will be imminent.
	I want everybody to order your book, to get it, to pre-order it as soon as it is available.
	Give us a little tease to our millions of listeners across the nation.
	Why did you write this book and what's it about?
	Well, you know, Dr. Gorka, I think it kind of relates to what I've been saying, which is I wanted to share with a largely civilian audience Not only a military perspective, but a historical perspective on where we're going right now.
	What is the condition of the American civilization?
	Because it's pretty clear it can't continue the way it's going.
	Yeah.
	And a lot of people, you know, oh my gosh, we have a civil war.
	Well, that's not the only way a civilization falls.
	Civilizations change, but they can still be recognizably the same.
	Look at the Romans, and I talk about the Romans a lot.
	They went from a kingdom into a republic, but you could still tell they were Romans.
	They went from a republic to an empire.
	They were still Romans, but they were very different.
	And I wanted to explore that and talk about things that could happen.
	Could there be civil violence?
	Could our country collapse economically and essentially spiritually by going the European route and just becoming a bunch of barren people looking forward to their six weeks of paid vacation in Ibiza and anesthetizing themselves with Eurovision song contest viewing.
	Will China take us out, and how might that happen?
	But is China the invulnerable, unstoppable juggernaut that we're told?
	And I want to talk through these things.
	I found out each of my chapters could have been a book in and of itself.
	I spice it up with a few little fictional vignettes, because I think you can talk about what it's like to live in a country that's falling apart, But a short story of somebody trying to go, for instance, shopping in a place where the supply chain has failed.
	I think that tells the story in a different way.
	It makes it real.
	It makes it real.
	I want you to feel it in your gut.
	We can talk academically.
	We can talk hypothetically.
	But if you walk into your Whole Foods, And they don't have any mung beans or kale.
	Or milk.
	And you're somebody who grew up in a city, and you know, where does beef come from?
	Beef comes from a store, not a farm.
	It comes wrapped.
	It comes ready wrapped in cellophane.
	Yeah, in saran wrap.
	So I wanted to talk about that, and I wanted to talk about what happens when your expectations, when the expectations of our society are not met when the fundamental premises change and um look i i spoiler i'm hopeful i think uh this is my question are you an optimist at the end of the i mean people need to read the book but are you an optimist of course i am uh i i've had the privilege of living on three continents for various amounts of time uh i've been with a lot of people
	i've been to 48 of 48 of 50 states north dakota and alaska i See you soon.
	He's coming.
	I'm coming.
	You know, I, my family's from middle Pennsylvania.
	I've lived through the middle of the country.
	I served in the military and I live in blue California.
	So I think I've had a, I think I've had a really good opportunity to see the whole country and live through it.
	And I'm just, I'm still overwhelmed by the American character.
	It still exists.
	You know, you look at Canada right now, and you've got the truckers, and that's the real Canada.
	Yes.
	Okay?
	As I write in my show, we end up invading Canada article for Town Hall on Thursday the 3rd.
	The, you know, Canadians have this image as being a bunch of syrup-swilling nice guys who talk a little funny, but you know, if you look at what the Canadians did in World War II, and you know,
	After the SS murdered a few Canadians, how they paid back the SS in spades... And just how ironic it is that a left-wing government there is having issues with the working class truckers who the...
	The Labour Party the left wing is supposed to represent is a little bit ironic.
	He's the author of the Kelly Turnbull series, the new upcoming non-fiction book is The Fall and Rise of America.
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	The End So, um, gotta ask the... You said not all civilizations or nations, if they collapse, could collapse because of a civil war.
	There are many ways to undermine or change a civilization.
	But you've written this incredibly successful series, The Kelly Turnbull, because the latest one is what, number six?
	The split?
	Number six, and I'm writing number seven now.
	So talk to us about why you wrote this series of fiction works that talk about a collapsing America and then translate it into what you're witnessing today.
	We had in studio for an hour incredible session yesterday with Congressman Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene and you know when you see just a handful of people like them Talk about the political prisoners, the political prisoners we have in D.C.
	right now after January 6th, then some of this is not necessarily complete fiction, Kurt.
	The problem with our stupid ruling class is that it is uneducated and it is unwise.
	It may be smart.
	It may be able to memorize facts and figures, may be able to be clever on Twitter, But it is not wise.
	It doesn't understand the things of God and man.
	One of the problems is that much of our ruling class has never been in a fistfight and doesn't understand the rules.
	Besides just wanting to have fun, and I have a tremendous amount of fun writing these books, and I think they're fun to read, I wanted to talk about what happens when you knock out the foundations of a country.
	Foundations include free speech, due process.
	And all these things seem to be way—there's always a reason, Dr. Gorka.
	Why?
	Well, you know, I'm totally for free speech, but this thing is too important to have free speech.
	We've got to shut Joe Rogan up.
	We've got to shut up anybody who says anything that, you know, anything that counters the regime's narrative.
	Why?
	It's misinformation.
	Yeah, due process is important, but, you know, insurrection, which is—by the way, lamest insurrection ever.
	You know, most guys doing an insurrection bring guns.
	Yeah, it's strange.
	A lot of people are about guns, we're the feds.
	It's just, they think because they are dumb, because they didn't build this country, they didn't feed it, they didn't fuel it, most of them never defended it.
	They think it's just the natural state of mankind.
	I look at our ruling class like the third generation of a rich family, right?
	Everybody knows the Fords, right?
	You know, Henry Ford.
	Mixed blessing of a guy, but he revolutionized manufacturing.
	For the world.
	The second generation Fords, they gave us the Mustang, built Ford into a giant megacorporation.
	Tell me about the third generation.
	All leftists funding leftist dreams.
	Have they ever done anything?
	No, the Ford Foundation, for example, has become like a mini Soros Foundation.
	Yes, yes.
	What we have essentially is our ruling class is our trust fund kids.
	They inherited a culture that they didn't build, that they didn't create.
	They just got the credentials and took it over, and they didn't appreciate what it takes.
	So they don't appreciate how it works as a system.
	So I'm going to try and be the provocative one now, Kurt, which is usually your job.
	I've got to be the voice of reason?
	No, just react to this.
	Moving towards a point at which the trust fund generation, those who've never been in a fistfight, can only be redeemed or salvaged if they have to live through a war, either domestic or with an external enemy.
	Is this because, you know, you, I mean, that amazing list you gave us of all the presidents who had military experience and actually knew how the world worked.
	And then you've got these people have no idea.
	So is that the only solution that we have to suffer a war?
	Well, frankly, I think that while Truman's time as a artillery captain in World War I was very important, I think equally important was the fact he was a haberdasher.
	Yes, a businessman, right.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	I think he's lived lives outside of kind of the D.C.
	bubble, where you go, you know, from the, you know, Forum for Liberties, Eagles and Liberty, to some government job, and then maybe over as a journalist somewhere.
	First of all, and I think the premise of your question is wrong, I don't want to redeem these guys, I want to replace them.
	I don't think there's any redeeming them, because their goal is not our goal.
	In other words, our goal is to have an efficient system where people can live freely and prosper.
	Their goal is a system that they can dominate.
	Look at Venezuela.
	Look, if you're in charge in Venezuela and you see your people are breaking into the Caracas Zoo to eat the zebras because they don't have meat, you have two choices.
	You can go, gosh, my system doesn't work.
	Let's try a system that will get people, you know, meat that's, you know, not from the Serengeti.
	Or you can say, I don't care about that because the important thing is I'm in charge.
	I would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven.
	Yeah.
	So that's the thing.
	There is no bottom.
	You look at San Francisco, and the answer there is obvious.
	You prosecute criminals.
	You refuse to allow open-air drug markets.
	It is not hard.
	Rudy Giuliani showed you how to fix a big city, and they could do it any time, and they will not because they've chosen not to.
	There is no bottom that they can hit where they go, oh my gosh, it's like an alcoholic.
	He doesn't wake up, he's wearing someone else's pants in the wrong zip code and goes, OK, I got to get my stuff together.
	There's no point of that for the leftists because they don't care if they're wearing someone else's pants in the wrong zip code.
	They care that they're in charge.
	Do we have a bench?
	You say we have to replace them.
	Do we have the requisite bench or is somebody building it, Kurt?
	That is a great question.
	I don't think we... Look, I think there are tremendously talented people out there who can start taking things over, but it's going to take time.
	It's good.
	Take time.
	As all these institutions failed, and somebody was giving me grief about, you know, you conservatives, you think you're on the outside.
	I said, okay, tell me, first of all, name a conservative run institution, and then name a successful institution.
	I got no answers to either.
	But we have seen that when we do control institutions, they do tend to function a little better.
	And I'm not just talking ideologically conservative, I'm talking ideologically normal.
	Right.
	I mean, we had, you know, I wouldn't necessarily call NASA in the 60s, for instance, quote-unquote, conservative like us.
	Although they all believe, you know, whether you liked LBJ or you preferred Richard Nixon or Barry Goldwater, You know, they all agreed on a few things like their gender.
	But the point is, to that point, then they weren't predicated on fantasies.
	I mean, that's a really interesting point.
	You know, NASA, when you're talking about trajectories over millions of miles, you better actually live in the real world.
	And that's what you're talking about.
	I think that could be an article at townhall.com.
	I think it could.
	Follow him right now at Kurt Schlichter.
	Reality.
	He lives it.
	I've got a couple of minutes left with him.
	I've got a couple of minutes left with him.
	I don't think he was too woke.
	He was the exact opposite.
	You know what woke means?
	It means you're a loser.
	Everything woke.
	Everything woke.
	It's true.
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	go.
	It's an election year, Kurt.
	You live in California.
	Talk to us about, and don't worry because we're not gonna play this for you in about 10 months time, but what are your predictions when we saw Rasmussen of all posters?
	Issue a poll three days ago that 50% of Biden voters want him impeached.
	What kind of a year are you getting ready for?
	I think it's going to be a disaster for them.
	I'm thinking the over and under for me is 40 seats in the House.
	I think we are more likely than not to take the Senate.
	The only reason we wouldn't get more seats in the House is because it's so close right now.
	This is a, look, this is a or was close to an evenly divided country.
	Yeah.
	And of course, in two parties, naturally, it's going to be because you're going to try and expand as much as get as close to 50 plus one as you can.
	But no, I think the failure is undeniable.
	I think COVID has been a failure.
	I think Afghanistan, of course, is a disgrace.
	Ukraine is going to end up bad no matter how it is.
	It's going to be it's just a matter of how humiliating that response result is.
	Inflation.
	Everything else, there's just, and I think a lot of the kind of fetishes of the liberal gentry, like CRT and that sort of thing, normal people aren't buying it.
	If you start looking at some of the numbers, Democrats for so long were relying, for instance, on the Latinx community to build their coalition after they got rid of working class folks.
	You know, Hispanic Americans, as I can attest from personal experience, since I married into a family of immigrants, are, you know, the best of America.
	Hardworking, loyal, patriotic family, and they've got no use for this.
	I interviewed a, you would call him a Bush Republican.
	He was of Latinx, and we'll get to that in a second.
	But I wanted to hear what he had to say.
	I was going to tell him.
	I want him to talk about how he felt.
	He felt Donald Trump was a little rough around the edges.
	That kind of upset him.
	He didn't want to get in any fights.
	I said, what do you think about being called Latinx?
	I got one of these.
	And I said, what do you think about CRT?
	And Dr. Gorka, he went up like a Saturn rocket.
	So he knew the phrase?
	He knew the phrase CRT?
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yes.
	And he wanted nothing to do with it.
	He thought this was un-American, un-Christian, an insult.
	I thought that was very interesting because this is not a bomb thrower guy.
	This is just a normal day.
	He doesn't like politics.
	He thinks politics is dirty and corrupt.
	He wants to take his kid to Little League.
	He wants to make sure they're going to a good school.
	But boy, I'm interested in CRT.
	Oh my gosh.
	Well, that is very, very interesting.
	And I think it leads us naturally to where we always go on Friday when we close the show.
	And you see the figures for the president from the Latin, Hispanic and Black community.
	And this is the future that we can build.
	We will not bend.
	We will not break.
	We will not yield.
	We will never give in.
	We will never give up.
	We will never back down.
	We will never, ever surrender.
	My fellow Americans, our movement is far from over.

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