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From the opening of the Genocide Games, China portraying itself as quite a champion of the developing world.
I think we have our topic, or one of our topics, for the next two weeks at least.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First.
You're listening to the Salem Radio Network, and we're going to open the show with a very special guest.
I can think of none better to comment on that video clip than Gordon Chang.
He is the author of The Great US-China Tech War.
Gordon, welcome back to America First.
Thank you, Dr. G. Thank you kindly, Gordon.
Is it the propaganda flowing out of every faucet since the games opened?
I expected it to be bad, Gordon, but did you think it was going to be this bad?
Yeah, no, you know, I expected China to have a lot of propaganda, but NBC just sort of relaying this without comment or criticism Really was wrong.
Yes, China does see itself as a leader of the developing world, but a lot in the developing world will take Chinese money, but they're really upset.
And if you're going to comment on China's assertion, then you need to be balanced and objective.
And NBC was neither of those when the opening ceremony comments.
Let's just have Savannah Guthrie of NBC doing the work of the communist regime.
This is cut, Tan, play cut.
At this moment, it's quite provocative.
It's a statement from the Chinese President Xi Jinping to choose an athlete from the Uyghur minority.
It is an in-your-face response to those Western nations, including the U.S., who have called this Chinese treatment of that group genocide and diplomatically boycotted these games.
Who have called it genocide because I guess it isn't.
So choosing one Uyghur Gordon to light the Olympic flame, I guess that means the millions being persecuted just magically disappear?
Yes, what Beijing was saying was, we are proud of our genocide and crimes against humanity, and we are going to shove it in your face, as we heard in that comment.
And also, It was not just the genocide.
It was also we are proud of our invasion of India because one of the interim torchbearers was the regimental commander who was involved in that horrific attack on the night of June 15th, 2020.
No, exactly, exactly.
Is there any way to estimate, Gordon, please follow this gentleman right now on Twitter, Gordon G Chang, is there any way to estimate, to predict how much of a cornucopia of propaganda bonuses these two weeks are, the fact that we sent athletes, and how about this, how about the Speaker of the House, the third most powerful individual in America said, Oh, don't test the Chinese because they could do something to you.
How much is our communication of fear of this regime going to be milked for years to come by Xi and his cohorts?
Well, certainly Xi Jinping will try and milk it.
I think, though, that China's gone too far in a number of different aspects, and there will be blowback.
And regarding Speaker Pelosi's comments, When you lose Al Sharpton and you're the Democratic Speaker of the House, you know you're in trouble.
Now, I think what Pelosi was trying to say was, look, I'm concerned about the safety of the athletes, but it didn't come out that way.
And what she did highlight was that nobody should be going to China because it is extremely dangerous.
And we know that this is not just true for athletes, but for any American, any foreigner going to China.
So people should take her comments in a sense to heart.
And just not go to Chinese soil.
Now, I love it every day when on my Twitter feed your name pops up and several times a day, it won't just be about China, you will say a declarative statement against communism, exhorting your fellow Americans to stand up against dictatorial regimes.
With that in mind, May I ask you to comment on what we're witnessing north of the border in a nation that otherwise we consider to be liberal, a democracy, part of the British Commonwealth, based upon parliamentary democracy.
The latest footage of the police officers in Canada just going in there and taking the property, taking the fuel the truckers are using to heat their cabins as they fight for their Hal Thornton at me.
Your stance, Gordon, isn't just about China, is it?
Yeah, what we're seeing in Canada is despicable.
I mean, it is almost totalitarian in what they're trying to do.
Because what they're essentially saying is that you can't protest.
You know, we have Justin Trudeau, you know, you should not actually comment on his wrong actions.
And really what they have been doing is just not worthy of a democracy.
The one thing, Seb, which I, you know, and I go to Canada all the time because my wife's parents are there.
I've always had the notion that Canadians were pretty docile, were pretty obedient.
And that changed in an instant with this trucker movement.
And that is actually an inspiration to our truckers and to all Americans and to all who live in democracies.
These are people who are at great sacrifice, are standing up for freedom, democracy and liberty.
And you have the Canadian government acting like China.
Now, I know Justin Trudeau comes from a family that loves communist China, but this is shocking.
It truly is.
And we stand with the truckers.
GoFundMe has stolen nine million dollars of donations made to the truckers to try and support them in their protest against the mandates.
Gordon, if I may, can you address Our listeners, those in America who say, you know, China, thousands of miles away, I don't care, doesn't really matter to me.
Why should all Americans care?
Well, for instance, China deliberately released the virus beyond its borders.
We don't know how COVID-19 started, but we do know that Chinese leaders deliberately made sure that the rest of the world was infected as well.
That's over 900,000 Americans who have perished to this disease, according to Johns Hopkins, 5.7 million worldwide.
We know that Chinese leaders are pushing the notion that they are the world's only legitimate state, which makes the U.S.
nothing more than a colony, if that.
And, you know, this goes on and on.
But the reason why we don't have as vibrant an economy as we should is because China steals hundreds of billions of dollars of U.S.
intellectual property each year.
Perhaps as much as $500 billion as John Ratcliffe, when he was Director of National Intelligence, estimated, or maybe even $600 billion as industry sources estimate.
Is there any excuse?
And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, we will actually have Dr. Robert Malone on the show for the whole third hour.
The man whose interview on the Joe Rogan podcast created the furore that we are witnessing.
So you don't want to miss anything.
Gordon, is there any expectation that we can get to the bottom of what happened in Wuhan?
Is there a history of defectors?
Maybe one day somebody will escape and tell us the truth?
That is the only way we're going to find out.
The Chinese people will tell us, because we have a World Health Organization that's not really trying to find out.
We have a president in the United States who is just not curious, and he's not pressing the Chinese, even though we've had hundreds of thousands of Americans have been killed.
And Joe Biden, his most important responsibility is to protect the Americans, This has been a complete dereliction of duty.
I think he should not be president.
I mean, he doesn't have to press the Chinese, but if he doesn't want to, he shouldn't be sitting in the Oval Office.
He should be having somebody like President Trump or somebody else who will defend the American people from a foreign attack that has killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.
That's why we love Gordon.
He's a fighter.
Follow him right now.
Gordon G Chang on Twitter.
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Real quick.
Hey, Seb.
Thank you, Gordon.
That was excellent.
Thank you, Seb.
Lydia just handed this to me.
Tell Seb we'll make it work for Thursday.
We love you.
Thank you, Lydia.
Handwritten notes.
It's like a little note from the president from the White House pad.
Commander-in-Chief in the Chang household.
Talk to you Thursday.
What do you want to say, Jeff?
... ... ...
It was cutting out a little bit.
His audio was clear though.
There's no way we'd be able to upload the video if the internet was... That Salem internet's working.
But the Wi-Fi's weak.
Which has nothing, no bearing on the Wi-Fi.
I guess we'll see when Solomon's up because he has the best Skype setup, arguably ever, so we will know then.
Alright.
This is free and then cash after that.
Someone will call and...
Yeah.
America First, what's your name?
Tuesday the 7th.
All right, where are you calling from?
All right, what do you want to say?
Israel coming up here.
And then you can do the countdown.
Maybe 2A, 2B.
Maybe we'll decide.
That sounds good.
By the way, over the weekend, I tried the cigar.
Oh, I did too!
What did you think?
I liked it.
I actually went with a friend.
A friend of mine and I went to Shelly's and we both tried it and she actually really enjoyed it.
She said she thought it was very serious.
A female cigar smoker.
Yeah, they exist.
Yeah, it was a good time.
I thought it was good.
I did too.
I had mine, uh... Where did I do it?
I was driving to the gun show and I had it.
I was... No!
No!
I was shooting.
I was testing some guns.
Have you had it?
What?
The cigar.
No, not yet.
It's good.
Rough weekend.
Two-quarter of a weekend.
We can make those the American First cigars if you approve.
You like them though?
Yeah, I do.
I think it'd be great.
Have you had it?
I had it on Friday with a nice glass of whiskey.
I enjoyed myself thoroughly.
It's decent.
Very nice.
Alright, alright.
The guy that is in that China clip, it's Andy Brown.
Which one?
The Cut Ten from Friday.
Oh, the Australian or whatever?
Yeah.
Andy Brown.
And who is he?
No, do you want to know who he is?
He's a China expert that was brought on because he's the editorial content director for Bloomberg.
Of course.
Are you kidding?
So he's not actually the voiceover guy?
Yeah.
He's an American citizen commenting from Bloomberg?
It says he was a China expert from what I found.
It was an NBC.
Wow.
All right.
I need that detail for the Newsmax cut.
Okay.
I need the name.
Wow.
Okay, we've got Israel here in 25 seconds.
Alright.
Be good to go.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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This was released to the public From the headquarters of Rumble, which is the First Amendment alternative to the fascists at YouTube and at Google.
And it is addressed to Mr. Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan.
At the Joe Rogan Experience.
February 7th, 2022.
Dear Joe!
We stand with you, your guests, and your legion of fans in desire for real conversation.
So, we'd like to offer you 100 million reasons to make the world a better place.
How about you bringing all your shows over to Rumble, both the old ones and the new ones, with no censorship for 100 million bucks over the next four years?
Let me read that again.
How about you bring over all your shows to Rumble without censorship for 100 million bucks over the next four years.
This is our chance to save the world.
And yes, this is totally legit.
Sincerely, Chris Pavlovsky, CEO of Rumble.com.
That's not a deal you see being made in public in three paragraphs often every day, do you?
Joe?
What do they say?
What's that movie?
About baseball?
Build it and they will come.
Well that's what Rumble did!
Joe, think about it.
Because here's the truth, Joe.
I don't know if you listen to us.
Uh, Terrestrial Radio has what?
a quarter of your audience if you add my social media followers it's another two million so maybe we're like a third or half of your audience and different different demos and different broadcast platforms so maybe maybe somebody's gonna tell you here's my message never ever apologize to the mob because the mob doesn't care whether you apologize the mob
Hey, it's good to hear you again.
All right, we already have some calls.
833-33-GORCA.
That's 833-334-6752.
Victoria, Victor, in Silver Spring, Maryland.
Welcome, Victor.
Hey, it's good to hear you again.
I was listening to your buddy this morning, Chris Plant.
Yes.
And he gave out an alternative website if you want to fund the truckers.
And it's givesendgo, one word, .com.
And one of my truckers said they've already raced.
The second thing I wanted to tell you is there's going to be an American version Yes.
I've got a better suggestion because it's not about one man.
There's a really good name for a radio show.
How about this, Victor?
trucks and the mega colors.
I've got a better suggestion because it's not about one man.
There's a really good name for a radio show.
How about this, Victor?
How about the America First Convoy?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
All right.
Thank you, Victor.
Superb ideas.
Yes, GoFundMe, which has stolen $10 million from the truckers, which should be cancelled.
Nobody ever should use GoFundMe again.
It's not cancel culture.
It's delete culture.
Let's delete them.
That's a friend of mine came up with that at the weekend.
You know who you are, Brandon, my holster maker.
I love it.
It's not cancel culture.
It's delete culture.
And we need to delete GoFundMe because they are criminals.
$10 million of donations stolen from the truck drivers, but Black Lives Matter.
Oh, that's just dandy.
There is a new site.
I checked it this morning.
They already had 100,000.
So I guess they've doubled that since I checked it this morning.
You've got to go to GiveSendGo.
That's the decent version.
That's GiveSendGo.com.
And then look up the Canadian U.S.
truckers donation page.
Thank you, Victor.
Great call.
Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn.
Happy Monday, Judy.
I think I'm suffering from progressive, regressive, depressive, aggressive syndrome.
Ooh, that sounds painful.
I don't know if there's a medicine for that, Judy.
Yeah, there is a medicine for that.
We got to send them off to communist places.
They want to change this country.
You know, I feel like I'm in China already.
I feel like I'm in China already.
It's like we're in China.
You know?
We cannot speak.
It's conservative for sure not.
It's just impossible.
It's crazy, you know?
So you're saying, how about we should like send them off to organized holidays to like North Korea or Venezuela?
That's a pretty good idea, Judy.
You know what?
I'd actually fund that.
I might actually stump up.
want to turn this place into a communist place, let him go elsewhere, okay?
This country is not that.
You know what?
I'd actually fund that.
I might actually stump up.
I'd stump up 10 grand to send the biggest big mouths.
There's Let's pick two of the biggest big mouths.
I think I might tweet this out later.
Judy, you're a genius.
Let's pick.
Who should we pick?
I'll pick one of them.
I'll pick AOC and I'll fund her trip.
She can pick Venezuela.
She can pick North Korea or the Xinjiang province of China where the Uyghurs are persecuted.
I will pay.
I will pay for that trip.
Judy, who else would you let me pay for?
I have a choice, I'm sorry, it's like a dual thing between Bernie Sanders and Biden.
I don't know, those two, and there's more, but those two for sure.
That doesn't work, that doesn't work.
Bernie likes to go to the Soviet Union for his honeymoon when it's one of the most anti-Semitic regimes in the world, despite being an American Jew.
And you know what Jen Psaki is going to say, we'd love to do that, but they'll be going on Air Force One with the Secret Service.
Now this is a trip There's a trip where you stay in a local residence, a local hostel, and you eat and sleep with the locals.
Pick me one more candidate, Judy.
Well, who did you say?
You said AOC.
AOC!
That's my choice.
Oh my god, music's on, I was gonna call about Pence.
I wanted to tell you about Vice Pence, what a twisted comment he made.
Oh, we'll be talking about Pence later.
Lovely, lovely idea.
Thank you, Judy.
Genius.
We have the best callers and listeners.
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Do we have a host for Friday yet?
Yes, we do.
Jim Hansen.
Mr. Hansen shall return.
So you saw Morgan Ortegas announce she is running for that seat in Tennessee.
I know, and I responded.
And then Vernon Jones has dropped out of the governor's race in Georgia to back David Perdue, and he says he's going to run for a seat in Congress.
We don't know which one yet.
Perdue versus Kemp.
Interesting.
All right, what have I not seen?
Cut five, please.
Cut five.
Scroll down here.
There we go.
So the truth is that we're all heartbroken because we lost our leader here.
We lost the man who was the backbone, the glue and the spirit of this company.
So thank you, Jeff Zucker, for everything you did for everyone at this network and for what you did to the entire country, for the entire country.
So Let's just move on.
Good evening, everyone.
I'm Don Lemon, and this is CNN.
Let's just move on.
Thank you for tanking our ratings.
Yes, well done.
OK, give me a seven.
But I can't help but wonder our inability to get the world to follow us on a diplomatic boycott of China on something that's fundamental about sort of what we believe should be freedom bigger than financial ties makes me think, well, maybe the example of our democracy is not so good, so people are thinking, why are we following you guys?
I mean, it's hard not to see that.
Jay Johnson has to be one of the ugliest guys to ever work in government, don't you think?
I mean, he really is.
He looks like a lizard man.
Can I get eight?
Eight.
I mean, and this is the most depressed, suicidal, drug-addicted, alcoholic, and unfortunately medicated generation in history.
And the people in charge are worried about a virus that has such a low fatality rate for this generation.
Like, how about you should be worried about the fact they can't live a full and prosperous life, that they have to walk around with a cloth mask all day long, they can't properly communicate.
Everything that they hear is about the world ending, either world ending from climate change or systemic racism, or an invisible pathogen they can't see.
And it's terrible.
We cannot treat the next generation in some form of East German experiment and act as if they're going to be in the same trajectory as generations prior, which is why I've long called for the lifting of all mass mandates and vaccine mandates for anyone under the age of 30.
Okay, and cut six.
Look at what GoFundMe did.
People gave $10 million to support the Freedom Convoy because they were so proud of the courage of these truck drivers, and the thieves in Silicon Valley decided, we don't like your politics, so A, we're going to take your money, and then B, we're going to give it to people we like.
Listen, if anyone else did that, that is called theft.
And so today, I sent a letter to the Federal Trade Commission asking that the FTC open an investigation into GoFundMe.
All right, come in with that.
Come in with cut sticks after the liner.
Yep.
All right, 25 seconds.
Do we know what we're doing?
I'll ask the next break.
Okay.
Alright.
Bye for 15 seconds.
Bye for 15 seconds.
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Look at what GoFundMe did.
People gave $10 million to support the Freedom Convoy because they were so proud of the courage of these truck drivers.
And the thieves in Silicon Valley decided, we don't like your politics.
So A, we're going to take your money.
And then B, we're going to give it to people we like.
Listen, if anyone else did that, that is called theft.
And so today I sent a letter to the Federal Trade Commission asking that the FTC open an investigation into GoFundMe.
Federal Trade Commission, that is Senator Cruz, talking about the theft in broad daylight of ten million dollars from small donors to the Truckers for Liberty rally in Canada.
Go fund me, never use them again, and just charge them in a court of law.
If you want to support the truckers, Eric, let's find the full link, but it's givesendgo.com.
They've already raised a quarter of a million in the last I think two days.
GiveSendGo.com, look for the US Canada Truckers donation tab there.
Second guest of the day.
Absolute insanity, Kash Patel!
Welcome to America First!
Thanks, Sam.
Appreciate you guys having me.
Big day for you, and how did you actually work it that the news is amplifying the need for the service you're about to launch?
Obviously I created the trucking rally myself.
Right, you told GoFundMe to just be a bunch of snowflake thieves and then you would be able to respond on a perfect, perfect note with your latest platform.
So Kash Patel, former Chief of Staff for the Pentagon, former Chief Investigator for Devin Nunes Senate House Intelligence Committee.
Former DOJ national security expert FightWithCash.com has been your website up to now fighting the propagandists in the swamp and across the nation.
But tell us about this new perfectly timed initiative you've launched this week.
No, thanks so much, Devin.
I'm glad to launch it with you, my friend, on your wonderful show.
It's called Patriots.
P-A-Y-T-R-I-O-T-S.
You can find us at Patriots.us.
And what we did was we built an entire ecosystem so the GoFundMe's of the world never have to reject conservative values ever again.
We are a payment processing company for the people created by conservative values.
We own the entire ecosystem.
We do not run on Amazon Web Services.
We own the bank.
We own the infrastructure.
We own the rails, which means Your payments will be processed if you sell sheep or cattle or t-shirts or toothpaste or online or, most importantly, if you fundraise for charitable events or conservative causes.
For political events, we will process your payments.
They will not be shut down.
And sadly, I got a piece of breaking news that came in that I haven't told anyone about.
We're helping the truckers process their payments as of last night.
Alright, how can people support the truckers through your new payment processing service?
It's a genius name, Patriots, but it's with a Y. P-A-Y-T-R-I-O-T-S dot U-S.
How are you helping the truckers, Cash?
Well, I'm not going to shut them down.
All these great Americans and Canadians are donating to this cause, this amazing event, and they need money.
They need money for fuel, for food, for wear and tear, and they're driving thousands and thousands of miles.
This can't be done for free, and truckers aren't exactly the most wealthy folks in the world, but they're some of the most important for us.
So we want to make sure that the great Americans and great Canadians that donate to these individuals That money gets to the truckers.
Not GoFundMe, not some liberal cause, and not some bank that's going to shut them down, or Amazon Web Service, or any of that stuff.
Patriots is built to counteract that.
And I got a special announcement to make, since you let me break it on your show, Seb.
If they go to the website, Patriots.us, that's where you go to engage us for any sort of payment processing and banking need.
They type in Gorka Patriots and they're going to get a discount this week just for using Gorka Patriots.
That's the code of the week.
So anything that comes in via your show will be even more discounted.
So we greatly appreciate your time, Seb, on this.
Super.
Very kind.
Thank you, Cash.
Gawker Patriots is the code.
Patriots.us with a y-p-a-y-t-r-i-o-t-s.
If you don't want to be cancelled, you don't have to be a Mike Lindell.
You can simply be a trucker.
You've got to use Cash's new service.
It's genius.
You've got 30 seconds left.
Need your input, Cash, with regards to the other fight you have every single day.
My advice to Joe Rogan is the following.
You never apologize to the mob because they don't want an apology.
They want to destroy you.
Am I right?
You're 100% right, Seb.
You never apologize to the people who are the biggest hypocrites on planet Earth.
All they want to do is a fake news story, or they want to leverage their position.
If you keep going out there and pounding the truth, And speaking up for our values, then you're going to win.
If you apologize for it, you've lost the fight, and I agree with you.
Bingo.
Never, ever apologize.
We're going to have him back for a whole hour, one-on-one.
Kash Patel, he is the epitome of the person in the swamp who's fighting the swamp creatures.
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dollars currently raised five million twenty seven thousand six hundred what that's what it says right here not kidding that's all right give it to me again yeah I'll put it on the screen Yeah, put it on the screen.
GiveSendGo.com slash FreedomConvoy2022.
GiveSendGo.com FreedomConvoy2022.
Okay, and the goal is what?
The goal is $60,000,000.
Let me grab a screenshot if I can.
Yes, $60,000,000.
And they've got $5,000,000 already.
$5,027,698.
Gibson Go really did kind of pop up out of nowhere, but it has been like a powerhouse since it first came around.
It's Christian.
It's a Christian thing.
That's right.
The world's number one Christian private-funded fundraiser, they say.
Excellent.
Like, I know a lot of January 6 prisoners are using it for their...
Oh, yeah.
...purposes, because, of course, it's...
So far, it has avoided censorship.
All right, so we've done Ted...
What else?
Oh, can you play Cut 4 for me?
Cut 4.
We call on Solomon Nopenscape.
The people who say we're lacking journalism.
Can I hit the cut?
That we've become an all talk channel.
That we've run off and we're all opinions all the time.
That Jeff Zucker led us astray.
Those people aren't watching CNN.
They're not watching CNN.
They're watching complaints about CNN on other channels that don't know what they're talking about.
That's the truth.
Hey guys, can you hear me?
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John?
Mr. Salma, can you hear us?
John, can you hear me?
Hey there, can you guys hear me?
We can hear you, can you hear me?
I can't hear you if you can hear me.
Let me hang up and try again real quick.
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Hey guys, can you hear me?
Can you hear us?
Hey guys, Jacqueline, I need an E5.
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John Solomon, are you there?
I am indeed.
Good to see you, Seb.
You too.
Happy Monday to you.
So much I want to discuss with you.
We can talk about the coverage of the Olympics.
But let's start with a name that, for me, I remember when the first Gulf War broke out, 1991, was really a groundbreaking institution I remember visiting the Pentagon many, many times and it would always be CNN that was, you know, on the TV screens.
But now with the rapid, let's say, the rapid departure of Jeff Zucker, it looks to be in a tailspin.
Except, I guess, if you work there, because they see things a little bit differently.
This is the latest quote-unquote reliable sources analysis from Brian Stelter.
But the people who say we're lacking journalism, that we've become an all-talk channel, that we've run off and we're all opinions all the time, that Jeff Zucker led us astray, those people aren't watching CNN.
They're not watching CNN.
They're watching complaints about CNN on other channels that don't know what they're talking about.
That's the truth.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
I'm not a journalist.
I'm just a guy with a microphone, okay?
When you're a quote-unquote journalist and you're having to justify your credentials on your show, haven't you already lost the fight, John?
Tell me I'm wrong.
Well, there are two amazing things about that statement when I saw it.
The first is, he's giving opinion while insisting that CNN isn't giving opinion.
Yes!
Just take that into consideration at first.
But then, the second part is, you're darn right they're not watching.
They left months ago.
That's the whole point.
Their audience left them because they stopped doing journalism and they started running propaganda.
Brian Stelter is the poster child for the CNN of 2022.
He exemplifies all that's wrong with it.
He deals in rumor rather than fact, opinion rather than news, and then he wonders why the rest of the world doesn't see the world like he does.
He's trapped in a bubble.
He ought to go outside for a while and spend time with real Americans and see what they think of CNN.
I think he'd get a wake-up call.
But for an individual, and I remember he was a blogger when he was picked from obscurity to host the show on CNN, for a guy who ends up with a show whose name is Reliable Sources, how is it that we find out from elsewhere that
His colleague Chris Cuomo is helping his brother, the governor, build the hit piece strategy against the ladies accusing him of sexually inappropriate behavior.
How do we find out from other sources that Jeff Zucker is having a relationship with the woman who is working for the governor of New York to do his press relations.
How is it that CNN doesn't know what's happening in CNN, John?
Is that a naive question?
No, it's not.
I think it's a simple answer, too.
Willful blindness, right?
Everybody at CNN knew about the Zucker relationship.
People were telling me about it years ago.
So the idea that they didn't know about it or they were shocked by it, there's not any truth to it.
Lots of CNN people have told me about it for years.
It made them uncomfortable, particularly When the Me Too era began.
Listen, this show, Reliable Sources, used to be in the hands of an amazing reporter, Howard Kurtz, who I worked with at the Washington Post, who then went over to Fox News.
Brian Stelter has not carried on the tradition, just like the other anchors didn't carry on the tradition of people like Bernie Shaw.
They became propaganda mouthpieces.
And the reason their ratings are so far down is they abandoned the promise of CNN.
It's a very simple diagnosis of what's wrong with CNN.
You have, I think in large part, branched off and created JustTheNews.com because of phenomena, lack of credibility such as CNN's.
Let me ask you a quick question.
We'll hold you over for one more segment.
Can CNN recover from what's happened in just the last few weeks there, John?
Absolutely.
Listen, there's a hole in the marketplace for a down-the-middle news organization.
They held it for many, many years.
During the Trump years, they just took a bad turn, and the data shows the problem.
I'm not an opinionate.
The data shows what went wrong with CNN.
People lost trust because they only sided with one side all the time.
It's easy to fix, and I think there's a hole in the marketplace.
The question is, do they have the leadership to execute it?
That's all it comes down to.
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What story can we discuss?
What are you working on?
Tonight I'm going to have a really fun story taking a look at the number of illegal aliens who've been trafficked into the center of the country and then committed heinous crimes, killing a police officer, killing a mother and daughter, killing a father.
A reminder that as this surge moves more and more inward, these Willie Horton-like cases are going to multiply and create an enormous political consequence for Democrats who've allowed this open border to continue.
So that's a big one.
And then Wednesday, I should have a fun story I can tease, which is Liz Cheney has a little bit of a Hunter Biden problem in her family.
I can tease that a little bit.
Fabulous.
All right.
The first story, is that based upon data you've collected or is it from somebody else's data set?
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
We've been working on this, collecting these anecdotes day by day and did that.
I've interviewed a lot of people about it.
You mean you did the kind of work that CNN used to do 20 years ago?
Yeah, guilty as charged.
You're right.
That's exactly it, yeah.
And Mike Pompeo is on the TV show tonight, and he actually talked about the border too, and also had some pretty profound things to say about China and the Olympics.
So a fun day today.
Been fun all around.
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John, a couple of stories we've got to squeeze in in the last couple of minutes.
Tell us about this fascinating data set that you guys have collected at justthenews.com Yeah, for the last few weeks we've been putting together a list of cases where illegal aliens who came across the border, the open border under President Biden, have moved inward into the country and then committed heinous crimes.
Killing a police officer.
Killing a mother and daughter while driving drunk.
Killing a father who was kind enough to take in one of these illegal aliens into the home through a non-profit.
A reminder that there are these little Willie Horton cases.
Remember the ad from 1988 that changed it?
Starting to grow all across the interior of this country could be a huge political consequence to Democrats come the 2020 election.
All right.
Well, that's that's the kind of journalism that CNN used to do over a generation ago, which is collecting the actual data and publishing the data, not having bloviating op ed pieces about how you don't do op ed pieces.
John, you also mentioned the break of some potentially spicy story that we can expect from you on Wednesday, is it?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Liz Cheney may have a little bit of a Hunter Biden problem.
I'm not talking about the drugs and prostitutes.
I'm talking about a family member cashing in on foreign countries that maybe don't agree with his wife's work.
We're going to have that for you on Wednesday at Just the News.
Can't wait.
It's not Darth Vader, is it?
It's not her daddy?
No, no, no.
It's her hubby.
Oh, I can't wait!
So somebody inside the Cheney clan has a Hunter Biden, oh my gosh, a Hunter Biden story.
He has a law firm that represents a lot of the sort of countries that I think Liz Cheney legitimately stands against.
So we'll be real interested to work on that on Wednesday.
We're looking forward to it.
Now that is what we call a tease.
Thank you John Solomon.
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Where is ComiBoy?
That is a good question.
He's hunting for Chewbacca.
He's hunting for the Bigfoot.
He's in discussions for another TV series starring Jeff Banks.
Okay, is it Bigfoot or is it Sasquatch?
I say Bigfoot.
I don't know.
You're kind of phlegmatic today.
What's up, Joe?
I'm now on the record and I've got to say, okay, where's my stance here?
I don't have my notes, I'm not prepared.
But is it Bigfoot or is it Sasquatch?
I like Bigfoot better.
I feel like that's a better, you know?
How does this guy get away with saying, um, I beat the ass of the crackers?
How does the mayor of New York get to say that?
Because that means when he was a cop.
He was a racist, right?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, he's the good kind of racist.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Thank you.
Thank you.
My favorite term, reverse racism, which I had people use, and I shut that down every time.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
People being racist to each other is racism.
There's no reverse to it.
Well, you know the justification they always gave in college, and they still to this day, unironically, they claim...
Excuse me.
You can't be racist against white people because racism is discrimination plus privilege.
So if you're unprivileged like black people, then you technically can't be racist.
Which is an inherently racist thought that black people can't be privileged in any way.
That is unironically their argument.
That's a great one, but you know, it's with the soft bigotry of low expectations.
And it's so interesting to look at how they apply that to other certain groups.
So when the new Muslim tribes in Yathrib, before it became Medina, wiped out a whole Jewish tribe, that's not racism because they're Arabs.
Well, the fun part is that when you discuss any Asian countries, all that goes out the window.
They don't have any response for how, you know, because... There can't be racism there, right?
They don't know.
They don't know.
That's just...
The Whoopi Goldberg thing in particular is interesting.
When you look at her comments, she's approaching it from the perspective, if you go back to what she said, she said, oh, the Holocaust wasn't racist because it was white people killing other white people.
So she's essentially saying Jews are white, which is, you know, mute the mic.
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From the ReliefFactor.com studios, this is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
Two bits of breaking news.
One is important, the other one isn't.
Let's start with the one that isn't.
German Chancellor is holding a press conference with the Sleepy Creepy Guy in the White House right now.
Not important.
If anything does occur there, I doubt it.
We will tell you.
How about this for some breaking news?
The The alternative donation page after GoFundMe stole 10 million dollars from the Canadian truckers by shutting down their GoFundMe page.
The alternative at the Christian donation site GiveSendGo.
I checked it this morning.
It was $100,000.
There it is.
Thank you.
There it is up on the page.
It is now 5 million, right Eric?
Just over 5 million.
Just over 5 million in a matter of hours.
That's how much people want to support the truckers.
It is givesendgo.com slash freedomconvoy2022.
The goal is 60 million.
They've already got Five million!
Well, God bless you guys.
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We will continue to share it through the show today.
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But first, somebody I'm so delighted to have on the show for so many, many reasons.
Dennis Prager taught me one day as we were at an event having a great town hall with with you our listeners and before we finished and said our thank yous he stood up and said to the audience please remember if you like our radio shows Understand that they cannot and they do not exist without your supporting those who support us.
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It's incredible.
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Even when they were under fire.
From the left, because they support America.
And that company is Relief Factor.
And I am honored to be joined by the man behind Relief Factor.
Doesn't do interviews.
He is the inventor of Relief Factor, Dr. Jerry Mixon.
Welcome to America First, Dr. Mixon.
Well, thank you.
I'm not sure if I don't do interviews because I'm shy or because nobody's interested in talking to me, though, Sebastian.
I'm nobody special, really.
Well, I have in front of me your three-page curriculum vitae, your resume, and the last The last thing anybody can say about you is that you are not interesting.
So let's paint a little picture.
Before we start with, before we discuss relief factor, why you recreated it, your medical credentials, will you tell us what you did in 1965 during the Vietnam War at the ripe age of 16?
What did you do, Dr. Mixon?
Well, I was raised in a military family.
And quite frankly, we were afraid the war would be over before we could get there.
So some buddies of mine and I ran off and joined the military.
I volunteered for the paratroopers, I volunteered for Vietnam, I volunteered for some fairly high-risk activities, and I set about doing my job.
What was the cost to you physically after serving in Vietnam, Dr. Mixon?
Well, I got hurt a couple of times.
I had one bullet in the right forearm that cut my extensor tendons.
I had two through the left arm, one through the elbow.
I had a hand grenade through the left knee.
I have a band-aid wound under the left axilla.
One bullet skimmed down my back in a duel with a .50 cal and blew off about half the side of my ass.
Precisely, yep.
You said it's very, very convenient now because you have a divot for your wallet now on your backside, correct?
Precisely.
Yep.
I wear my wallet in that hole.
I've got shrapnel scattered up on my left side, and I've got one little piece of metal still sitting in my diaphragm just under my heart.
But other than that, I'm fine.
Incredible.
So you served your nation in combat in Vietnam.
You come home and then you decide on an incredible career path.
How did you decide to give back to America?
My youthful job was to kill the people my government said needed to be killed.
And God help me, I was good at my job, though it had some risks, as is obvious.
And so I guess in a reaction to the violence of my youth, I determined that I never wanted to harm another human being.
And so I went to school and became a physician, became an M.D.
Did I, am I remembering correctly that when you told me this story when you were in D.C.
that you had to get a special, did you write a letter to the White House?
How did you get the equivalent of the G.I.
Bill?
Explain that.
Well, because I, the Army told me I was 90% disabled.
Unfortunately, that meant that I could be rehabilitated, but in those days, they would only pay for a bachelor's degree.
And I knew that medical school was going to be a lot more expensive than a bachelor's, and so I wrote a letter to Richard Nixon, the president at the time, and I have to admit, I fibbed.
I lied to the president, but I figured, you know, politicians have lied to me my entire life.
I can lie to them once.
And so I told him how, you know, dear Mr. Nixon, I greatly appreciated the chance to work in your campaign and so on, which I had done nothing of the sort.
And I told him that I thought it was unfair that I would be unable to go to medical school because they'd only pay for a bachelor's, and I made him an offer.
I said, if I pay for my bachelor's degree, And I'm fortunate enough to get into my medical school.
Will you guys pay for the MD?
Now, the Veterans Administration had told me no, they wouldn't do that.
But I think the VA and I must have gotten a letter from the White House the same day because right after I got a letter from the White House saying that they would indeed cover my medical school, Fifteen minutes after I opened the letter, I got a call from the VA saying, young man, there must be a misunderstanding.
We'd be delighted to pay for your medical school.
What a fabulous story.
Let's jump forward.
You're a qualified doctor and then, what is it, 2015?
You come up with Relief Factor that I have been taking, my wife has been taking ever since I started this show.
Why did you, what is the mission you set yourself with Relief Factor?
Well, Relief Factor is actually an extension of my medical practice.
My goal in life is to decrease human pain and suffering and help people to function as well as possible, as long as possible.
And I had a patient who was in fact a chiropractor and he knew that I did some work with supplements and so he asked me if I could come up with something that might help his patients by decreasing their pain and inflammation.
And so I delved into the medical literature and I came up with four things that all had good peer-reviewed literature saying they decreased inflammatory reactions and decreased pain perception.
And my question was, which of the four I should use?
And then it suddenly came to me, why not put them all in?
Use all four at the full dose that the literature said decreased pain perception and lowered inflammation.
So the downside was it couldn't be the cheapest product on the market because you're actually taking four supplements instead of one.
Right.
But I decided to go with it anyway and we now have about 150,000 people a month that are using it.
Absolutely incredible, and when I receive the testimonials that you've received, tens of thousands of them, and I read them, it moves you.
Veterans who were taking painkillers, now who don't have to.
In my personal experience, I just want to express this now in front of millions of listeners, I am grateful to you.
My family is grateful to you.
My lower back pain that disappeared after two weeks of taking Relief Factor, after I separated my quad muscle from my knee completely, Had knee surgery after three days.
I got off the narcotics that they prescribed for me and I was taking relief factors.
So sadly we're out of time but I want to express to you on behalf of everybody who you have liberated through your incredible product.
Thank you Dr. Jerry Mixon.
Thank you for your service to this nation.
and for your continued service to those who are in pain.
It's relieffactor.com.
Thank you for supporting us, for standing with us, and for helping so many people across this nation.
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Dude, literally tracking the give send go.
Yeah.
In 30 minutes, this thing has raised $50,000.
Nice.
It just keeps going up.
Jimbo!
You can head on in now.
Mike's are on.
Hey, good.
Are we having fun?
Oh, every day is a holiday.
Every meal.
Thanks for Friday.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
It's fun to think of all that time where I could just flap my cake holder.
There's one segment on Fridays for nine minutes where we have a Second Amendment guest.
We can recommend or you can choose.
Yeah, I talked to Jeff.
I said Jen Jakes from Firearm Policy Coalition.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah, they're studs and she's from Green Bay, so she's a buddy.
Oh, good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And connect us because we'll give them some love as well.
They're studs.
Good.
I mean, they got the fighting attitude.
They're the ones with the F you no.
T-shirt to Biden.
Oh, nice.
When he tweeted out, like, in January, he says, you know, we need an assault weapons ban and magazines and guns are stupid.
Right.
And they did all that and they tweeted back at him.
F you no.
Good.
Yeah.
It's like the NRA is just AWOL.
You know, they kind of luxury airplane themselves into oblivion.
I know, but they've disappeared.
And we need a replacement.
I mean, we can't live without it.
Don Jr.
should take it over.
He should become the president.
Is that a thing?
It's a thing out there.
I'll get on it.
It's a thing out there.
I will climb on that bandwagon in a heartbeat.
Could you imagine if Don Jr.
was the president?
Could you imagine the millions of members?
Yes, I can imagine.
And the fun we'd have.
I know!
In every election cycle.
I mean, they'd be so jazzed.
I'll be on the bandwagon.
Good.
We'll pimp that on Friday.
Good.
Alright, grab your headphones.
We'll talk Olympics.
What else?
We'll talk Russia, Olympics.
There's an Olympics.
Allegedly, some communist country is doing an Olympics.
Right, the communist country.
I would love to hear Don Jr.
do the From My Cold Dead Hands line.
I finally watched Planet of the Apes over the weekend, too.
Oh my gosh, that's so funny!
I watched the sequel!
Beneath?
Beneath!
They're all on YouTube for free right now.
I know, exactly!
So good.
It's such a bummer though, you can't download them.
You can download everything else, but you can't download the movies.
I'm still able to enjoy it, though.
The writing was superb, even by today's standards.
Oh, that film is just... You know, they had to change it because they didn't have money.
The original French author, it's set in a future where the apes are driving cars and they live in skyscrapers and they're flying planes.
They said, we don't have money for this, so we're going to go to this valley in California and build some mud huts.
And they changed it.
We got horses.
Oh, horses.
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Eric is keeping his beady eye on the Give Send Go site for the Canadian truckers.
What did you say?
How many?
Tens of thousands have exploded in the last few minutes.
In half an hour it's raised approximately 50 grand.
It's not bad.
It's interesting to note, if people try to go to the URL, the page does keep crashing every now and then with a 404 error because so many people are trying to donate right now.
Okay guys, GoFundMe stole 10 million dollars from the truckers.
Go to the Christian donation website.
GiveSendGo.com slash FreedomConvoy2022.
Once again, GiveSendGo.com slash FreedomConvoy2022.
The goal is 60 million and they've...
How is that possible?
That's incredible.
They've already raised five million dollars.
Amazing.
Let's talk about it all with somebody who also served his nation, not like Dr. Mixon in Vietnam, but he is also a former Green Beret.
He is in studio.
We're delighted.
Jim Hansen!
Welcome to America First.
Good to be with you, brother.
Convoy.
Isn't that great?
Isn't that superb?
They won!
I mean the Ottawa government has conceded and now they've lost the war and they're gonna start a civilian massacre or something.
So this, the chief of police in Ottawa, I didn't ask Jeff, Mayor Culper, he gave a press conference where he called the truckers an organized insurrection.
The chief of police!
Come on!
Seriously, truckers who don't want to get vaccinated are insurrectionists.
And the sad thing is they did it perfectly.
They did it with class.
They did it with non-violence.
Good humor.
Exactly.
They're making these guys look like the tyrants they are and good on them for it.
And with the police, the footage that went viral last night of the police rolling, think about this, they're taking away the jerry cans of fuel that the truckers are using to keep the cabs of their vehicles warm, Jim.
It's the equivalent of taking bullets out of the guns they were using to kill the poor people of Ottawa.
You sound like Jen Psaki.
You could be very good at that.
I'll lie for a living.
So where does this go?
Can we see something like this in America?
Where are the American truckers?
Here's the problem.
The American truckers didn't get treated as badly.
They still are being allowed to work.
Canadian truckers weren't being allowed to work.
They literally were losing their livelihoods and had to.
Now, I could see our truckers going, well, we're not getting lit.
Because I consider Canada like our little brother who lives over the garage.
It's a big garage.
It's a big garage.
It's roomy.
It's got mooses and stuff.
But I think our truckers are feeling a little bit left out.
So I know people are trying to organize it and the social media sites keep killing the groups doing it because they don't want it to happen.
They know how bad it's going to look.
But how did we get here that Canada, a member of the Commonwealth, parliamentary system, you know, the worst you could say about Canada is that they were inoffensive, right?
Right.
It's the worst.
But you can push anybody.
I know, but that regime became that regime overnight.
I don't know.
They've been pushing the limit of control of their people.
They've got no free speech.
You know, they've got hate crimes.
They've got everything that we have in our Constitution.
They don't.
So they've been using that against them long enough and the people are fed up.
And you get a couple years of that, you take people's jobs away.
You know, and even the kind, loving Canadians, they're not.
I mean, I've seen drunk Canadians before.
And let me tell you, they'll scrap.
Yeah, this is true.
I've met Canadian soldiers.
They're pretty good.
Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, the PPCLI.
Pretty hardcore.
Pretty hardcore.
All right, let's let's talk about another country that is in the news, sadly for two weeks, the communist regime in China, the propagandists.
It's not just MSNBC, it's ESPN.
So I got to play this cut and get your comments.
This is A. Adande on ESPN talking about China human rights and who is allowed to criticize CUT11.
Who are we to criticize China's human rights records when we have ongoing attacks by the agents of the state against unarmed citizens and we've got assaults on the voting rights of our people of color in various states in this country.
So sports, I think it is possible and it's necessary more than ever to just shut everything out if you are to enjoy the actual games themselves.
Now, Jim, I don't think he was talking about the January 6th political prisoners, do you?
No, I mean, that was garbage.
First of all, that didn't happen.
Second of all, if you're going to compare genocide and prison labor camps to the fact that some people might have to show ID to vote and that the cops every once in a great while may shoot somebody who doesn't deserve it, all right, in the midst of keeping us safe from all the people who do deserve it.
I'm sorry, you cannot even begin to compare that.
But they don't want to lose their CCP bucks, and it's all about the money.
It's all about the NBA, NFL, Olympics.
All those guys get tons of money from the Chinese market.
They're not willing to give it up, so they'll lie.
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Jim, is there any scenario Where that never happens.
Where somebody on a cable... What footage, for example, would have to come out of China?
What statement from a dissident would have to be made on television where we wouldn't have people shilling for a communist nation with labor camps?
Is there a scenario you can envisage?
No.
Really?
I really honestly wish I could.
I think if you saw some of the actual torture, you know, if some of the torture that goes on every day, every hour of every day, 24-7, 365 in the Chinese torture gulag, it might change some minds.
But I'm not even convinced that would, because these people don't care.
It's not about that.
It's all about their power and pushing what they are, and they would perfectly happy pimping for the CCP chai comms and throwing human rights under the bus. - So basically you're saying we just have to win. - Yeah, we gotta chuck them out and then go ahead and put in policies Like, I mean, didn't we boycott an Olympics?
We did.
I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do that.
Instead, Biden's like, well, I'm not going to send some diplomats, and the Chinese are like, great!
And Nancy says, oh, be careful, be careful, because they might do something to you.
Can you imagine how they celebrated in Beijing when the third most powerful person in the most powerful nation said, Yeah, that's sad.
I mean, if you don't believe that... If you believe that they can, with impunity, attack and do what... They threw a Dutch journalist live on air, on camera!
Grabbed them and cuffed and stuffed them.
You know, I don't think you can put up with that, but I know these guys are perfectly happy putting up with it.
That's not like you said.
Takes regime change here in America to change regimes overseas.
Did you get that?
Media matters.
He said regime change.
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How do we make the YouTubes, the Twitters irrelevant?
That's the challenge, right?
Yeah, because you have to get that critical mass going the right way.
I love the invite Rogan to Rumble.
I know!
For a hundred million bucks!
I don't know how that's going to work.
Nobody's talked about what his contract with Spotify actually says.
I'm sure they've got it.
It was reported at the time multi-year.
That's what it said, it was a multi-year contract.
It didn't give details about the control.
There was some detail about the back catalogue, I remember.
But Spotify would have gotten rid of them by now.
Yeah, that's a good point.
But you don't think that there could still be a moment when they ditch him?
Or he could ditch them.
I mean, that would be the point.
I think, yeah, if they breached contract.
What?
I think if they breached contract, that would be the only way out.
Because I believe in his contract, they said they weren't going to touch his back catalog.
Then, moving over... Well, they deleted a hundred episodes.
But did he approve that?
He may have approved that.
Well, that's the thing between the two.
They took controversial episodes out when they moved over that never made it over to Spotify.
And there's a website that tracks all this as well.
And then on Friday, 71 of them disappeared.
What website?
Ah, I forget.
Just his stuff or anything?
No, it's dedicated to Joe Rogan podcasts on Spotify and which ones are there.
I love obsessions, man.
You know what his average age is, his audience?
Young.
24.
That's why they're doing it.
Yeah.
Oh, you get some good ad bucks for that.
Oh yeah.
They don't care about people that already have their mind made up.
They don't want, you know, he's culture, like the young people.
It's crazy because like even YouTube let him keep like the Alex Jones episodes on, but like Spotify, which again was supposedly not good for him.
Which were hilarious, by the way.
Somebody told me YouTube owns Spotify?
I don't imagine.
I mean... Jimmy Dore said that yesterday.
No, it can't be.
They would still let it on YouTube.
So who owns Spotify?
Weren't they Sweden or something?
Really?
I'm sure China knows it now.
Spotify.
Ping Xi.
Headquarters are in Stockholm, Sweden.
Interesting.
My Viking people need to stay in Stockholm.
The problem is all the investments that companies that have hedged funds.
Spotify Technology SA.
Luxembourg City Domicile Holding Company.
Yeah, Swedish.
Founded by Daniel Eck and Martin Lorenzon.
Jimmy Dore, you got it wrong. - Boom.
That name sounds familiar.
Who is he again?
The comedian with the dyed hair who, um... Didn't he used to be on Young Turks?
Yes!
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ah, God, the Young Turks.
Where have they been?
I haven't heard from them in a while.
They're still around, sadly.
We need another election loss for them, because that was the best.
Oh, my God.
Come on, Fox.
Revenue last year, Spotify, 9.6 billion.
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
All right, Fox, let's double Fox.
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We're talking about Spotify.
A little few data points for you.
Spotify is a Swedish company.
The author of Winning the Next Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
He's Jim Hansen, Jim Hansen DC on Twitter.
We're talking about Spotify.
I have a little few data points for you.
Spotify is a Swedish company.
It has 82 million songs.
Not bad.
And last year they made, what did I say, $9.668 billion.
So the average demo, Mr. G says, for Joe Rogan is 24 years old in terms of his listeners, which means, Jim, he ain't going anywhere, is he?
No, because that's who advertisers pay for.
That's who buys their crap.
So, I mean, I think if you're looking at what's going to happen now, Spotify's already made their play.
They're sticking with them.
And between the two of them and Rogan, they dumped his back catalog of using the N-word.
You know, and it's like, can I make a point here?
If black people could say the N-word and I can't, then I want to own Cracker.
I want the National Association for the Advancement of Cracker People and I can say it and black rappers can't.
That's not enough.
We need the Cracker Caucus in Congress.
Because they're there.
They're already there.
They'd like that.
I mean, they already probably called us.
So anyhow, when you see that come out, make sure to donate to the NAACP.
But I haven't seen his, he has a 10-year catalogue, but I've seen a lot of Roguen's show, and I know what he's doing.
He's quoting other people, or he's using it in some jokey fashion.
It's not a racial slur.
My message to you, and I did tweet it out earlier, it's not about the N-word, it's about silencing him because he dared to question the COVID narrative, right Jim?
Oh yeah, that's just, I mean, that's the grievance of the day.
It's just a tool!
No, exactly.
They pick a grievance, they gather together, they light the torches and grab the pitchforks and they launch the mob.
And the mob is now saying, okay, he's got to go.
They're not going to get him though, and that's the good thing.
Now I love today, and it was the pitch for your show, was is Rogan going to Rumble?
Because Rumble offered him $100 million.
I don't know, I hope they've got that.
If Rumble's got $100 million, America just got to be a better place.
Yeah, because if they've got that kind of money to toss around.
Well, the CEO did say at the end, this is legit, Joe.
In the letter, this is legit.
Well, because you've got to quit.
That's a lot of cash.
They're a fairly new organization.
But remember, they now are listed on the stock market.
You know, they're a thing.
It was a hundred million over four years.
Right.
And what we need now is more things like that.
Now, Spotify is standing strong, but Rumble, I think, is more our speed.
Let's map this.
You're a strategy guy.
We've got three minutes left.
The culture today, there's this amoeba that's the blob, that movie from the fifties that is the left, that just sucks things down, takes the oxygen from anybody.
And then there's Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, really.
Right?
I mean, think about it.
Yeah, we don't have, well, that's just it.
All right?
They've got us on popular culture.
All right?
They took that over a long time ago.
We need to make our culture popular.
And Rogan proves it is.
All right, that's just it.
Let's stop because he's not a conservative.
No, no, no.
He's a wild eyed libertarian.
He is.
Although he voted for Bernie.
Okay, so he voted for Bernie, but he's a big gun guy loves hunting.
So he's this kind of suey generous place, right?
It's kind of a libertarian who likes, I don't know, eating raw meat.
But that's a thing now.
The based population, the young people of Gen Z and that generation, who are his audience, like that stuff.
So they're like, leave me alone, I want to do crazy stuff, I want to talk smack, and I don't want to be told what to do by anybody.
He is the voice of that generation.
I think that, as the pendulum swings back and forth, puts us where we want to go.
Not exactly his apology, but what he did last week where he said, I'm sorry if you felt offended or something.
It's kind of like a half apology.
Is that a bad sign?
It's not a good sign, but I understand it.
It's always better to never cave to the mob.
You can't.
To just stand there because you can't satisfy them.
They're not there to satisfy you.
They don't want an apology.
They don't.
They want you to disappear.
An apology is just blood in the water, and it just gathers more sharks.
So yeah, no, I thought that was a mistake, but he probably had to, you know, in order to keep his deal with Spotify.
You think?
I think that was, we don't know what is in his contract, but I think in the interest of keeping that alive.
It looked pretty spontaneous, because he's walking down the street, got a little back camera angle up his nose.
I think he's good enough to be spontaneous on demand right now.
A man who knows the swamp well.
Spontaneous on demand.
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The only time they ever like someone on the right is when someone quote-unquote worse comes along, i.e.
they go from calling Cheney a war criminal to supporting him because Trump is worse.
I want to hear what Solomon has on Liz Cheney's husband.
That's like Wednesday.
He's been working with countries that Liz Cheney doesn't like.
Ooh, well good.
Yeah, isn't that interesting?
Hey, it's legal.
That's interesting, Swedish.
Swedish.
I just predict that the Nords are coming back our way.
I got family in Sweden that I know and they tell me that the average Swede is sick of the whole, you know, woke Immigrants everywhere, you know, where is our culture?
And now I'm just supposed to work 80 hours a week and get nothing out of it?
Yeah.
They're pretty fed up.
So they may be the next Canadians.
The Swedes are pretty serious.
I've known a few Swedes and they're like, they're not as scary as the Finns, because the Finns are like, I mean, Finns are like, I might have to cut you.
No seriously, I might have to just cut your head off because you're a threat to Finland, right?
But the Swedes are kind of like 50% there.
Yeah, and I think the attitude is changing from what I'm hearing.
Well, think about it.
We were there in Sweden doing a packet for Sinclair and you go to this little market and hand grenades being used in the market by the Somali immigrants.
Hand grenade in a market?
And the ambulance, this is when we were there, the ambulance drivers in Stockholm were requesting body armor.
We have a problem here!
Yeah, no, you're not going to put up with that forever.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I'd like to think there is a global movement coming, but I'm ever optimistic.
Well, let's talk about that.
That's a good point.
So did you see this comedian Jimmy Carr getting in trouble?
You know who he is?
I know, yeah, but what did he do?
He made a joke about gypsies and the holocaust.
What did he say?
He basically said... Was it a tweet or was it a show?
It was in his show, his Netflix show.
So now we're doing the same thing, we're doing cancel culture again.
And so one of his closing jokes, this is the five minutes that's going to cost me my job.
Oh yeah, he talks about it.
He offended everybody.
It's his whole thing.
I mean, he is offensive to every group, but he did.
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Let's go to cut one.
Well, I think you have a straight-out power struggle between the people and the government.
And you have a government that's all across the planet that's using the epidemic as an excuse to impose its will, to try to coerce people into obeying.
And, you know, I think it's taking no prisoners.
I mean, the fact is, you know, I would have thought the Canadians had a long tradition of being relatively polite, nice people.
But now that you have truckers challenging the government, the government's reacting ferociously, more ferociously than you'd ever have for that kind of a protest in the U.S., which to me is amazing.
So you actually said in the break, and you can listen in the break on Rumble, that you think this is a global phenomenon.
It's not just Joe Rogan and Spotify, but you think that Canada, Sweden, this is something we should take heart at?
That whole social democracy concept that the left loves, oh, we should look at the Nordic countries because they know the way, they have universal health care, they let, you know, anybody into their country and all that stuff.
But it's starting to hurt them.
You know, I mean, their countries are no longer viable.
They no longer have the social safety net for their own citizens who are working 80 hours a week.
So I think what you're looking at now is a backlash against that as people have figured out, well, this actually isn't making my life any better.
You know, oh, I could say I'm virtuous.
You know, I can virtue signal, tell my friends we're the good people.
But I think overall that people are sick of the government telling them what to do and controlling their lives.
And I think it's time for a little bit of payback.
So here's the big question, because I think guys like you and me, we've always been there.
What do we do with the next generations?
What is it going to take to enlist them in this red pilling?
Is it going to be Rogan saying, hey, I'm actually a conservative?
What is it?
I don't think any of the old brands work.
That's the thing.
I mean, based is the term that they call themselves.
They say, you know, we're based.
And I love that.
Because it's based in planting your feet on the ground and taking responsibility for yourself.
Reality!
And all the things, you know, the left's based in fantasy and emotion.
So it's the idea that they've seen that, and the generations tend to rebel against authority.
Well, it used to be uptight white guys, you know, in white, you know, dress shirts and black ties were authority.
Now it's crazy chicks and pink, purple hair, you know, telling them crazy stuff.
And people have seen that and I don't think they respect that in any meaningful way.
And so that's where I think it comes from.
How we organize it is hard.
Did you hear what Noam Chomsky said?
No.
So think about this.
Noam Chomsky said, those who refuse to be vaccinated should be physically forced to be vaccinated.
And if they don't want to, they should be isolated in their homes.
And the interviewer said, how about them feeding themselves?
If they're not allowed to go out?
Well, that would just be their problem.
Noam Chomsky, the champion of the dispossessed across the planet, the Jesus of the left says, well, if they can't feed themselves, They can die!
And they don't mind.
But isn't that where all authoritarian and totalitarian systems end up?
Yes!
Is in total control and gulags and all the rest of it.
They're just advancing it.
Covid actually helped advance the left into insanity in a way that was visible to people that wasn't before.
They were doing such a good job of marketing it, you know, and appealing to people's emotions and using popular culture and all these things.
Then all of a sudden they're like, you know what?
Screw that.
You'll do what I say or we're going to kill you.
Here is a perfect example.
When I saw this at the weekend, I said it to Jeff, and Jeff said, that can't be real, can it?
This is from a school in Washington, D.C.
Little, little kids, it could even be preschool, they're so young, who are being marched around holding little kiddie-sized banners saying, Black Lives Matter.
This is cut nine.
That's what matters, that's what matters, that's what matters, that's what matters. - Okay.
That's a pre-primary schooler, little black girl in a tutu, holding a sign saying and chanting Black Lives Matter.
I'm sorry, that is Maoism, Jim Hansen!
That's an obscenity and the fact it just goes to prove what COVID showed America is that our kids are not being taught what we think they are or what we thought they are.
They're being indoctrinated into wokeism, which is socialism, which is communism.
And it's accelerating.
And like I said, that's good.
Because things had to get bad enough that people couldn't ignore it.
It's been bad for decades.
Those of us who've been paying attention to that have been kind of hollering.
And people are like, oh, come on, don't worry.
Now they're like, wait a minute.
You're making my kids actually conduct a protest march in kindergarten?
You can't have that.
At this point, there is a movement that is generating from the ground up, and parents aren't going to take it anymore.
Last question, and you can be altruistic here, you can just be a political killer if you like.
For this to get fixed in the big scheme, doesn't the Democrat Party have to absolutely collapse?
I think they are collapsing on themselves.
You know, they're like a black hole or whatever.
Whatever.
Where they're collapsing in on themselves and only the most obscenely politically activated can be in that part.
And the rest of us need a home.
And so the disaffected Democrats who are left, they don't want to be Republicans.
But they might start voting against Democrat rule.
Because Democrat rule has been shown to be horrifying to normal people.
And there were a lot of normal people in the Democrat party.
We used to just disagree on policy.
Now it's good and evil in their minds.
John, where is the government funding crackpipes now?
That was federally funded.
That's going to be places like San Francisco.
So, federal funding for crack pipes.
And who's going to suffer?
Is it going to be the white middle class?
No, it's going to be black America.
Guys, wake up!
All right.
Let's talk to the headquarters.
Let's get Jim Hansen back.
Let's get him to guest host the show.
Maybe I'll take Friday off.
Let's do that.
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Again, I think you're seeing this happen in country after country.
It's finally hit people.
This stuff's all baloney.
It's all about a power struggle.
It has nothing to do with public health.
It has nothing to do with concern about you as a person.
You saw the same thing with Stacey Abrams and the kids in that classroom.
All those kids are being coerced into wearing a mask, which they don't need to be doing.
Meanwhile, as a powerful politician, she's sitting there with no mask, because after all, how could she get a good picture if she's in a mask?
Of course, of course, the governor of Georgia doesn't wear a mask when a picture is being taken of her, but she's surrounded by children who are.
Newt Gingrich gets it right every time.
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Good afternoon.
My comment, whether a person believes or does not believe Mike Pence's words, defending his actions on January 6th and early January 7th, here's the real story.
A person who hates doing something to a friend or to his country does not celebrate After doing it.
Pence and Nancy Pelosi do an elbow bump of celebration and victory.
Also, Pence shakes hands enthusiastically with several people and gets a mysterious coin in one of the handshakes.
Yeah, yeah, I don't care about mysterious coins.
Challenge coins are part of the culture in DC.
But Mary, yeah, that's a very, very interesting point.
If he has such feelings of remorse, or it was so tough for him, and he was under such excruciating pressure back then, why was he celebrating about it on the day?
We've got to pick up that footage and use it on the show.
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We have a very Very special America First one-on-one for you today, which is part and parcel of the broader environment in which the most popular podcaster in the world with over 10 million followers, you know who he is, Joe Rogan, is being attacked, is being lambasted, is being, well, they're trying to shut him down and his podcast on Spotify.
I don't think it's going to work.
Is it because of him or the guests he has on the show?
Well, perhaps the most important guest he's had of late in terms of the reverberation in the COVID nightmare we are still living in is Dr. Robert Malone, and we are honored to have him with us one-on-one here on America First.
Dr. Malone, welcome to the Salem Radio Network.
Thank you very much, Mr. Gorka, and thank you for the opportunity to speak to you and to your audience today.
Well, I could spend the next hour just rattling off your curriculum vitae and your various qualifications in the scientific world.
For those who didn't see your hours-long interview with Joe, who haven't seen all the interviews you've given with my friend and my former colleague Steve Bannon, Would you mind, would you indulge us for a second for those across the country for whom you are a new name, just to give us a pre-see of your background and your relationship, for example, to the mRNA vaccines that are so in the news currently.
Well, for your audience, I have been vetted and have secret clearance with Department of Defense.
I've won over $8 million or manage them for in government grants and contracts.
I typically work very closely with the Department of Defense, Defense Threat Reduction Agency, Chem Biodefense Group, and have for decades.
I have been a vaccine developer and innovator for well over 30 years.
As when I was a graduate student, I had a series of discoveries that led to nine issued U.S.
patents.
And numerous international patents that include all of the core technology for what we call RNA and DNA vaccines, including the first proof of concept reduction to practice using an RNA vaccine in a mouse model to produce immune responses against the envelope glycoprotein of AIDS.
So an AIDS vaccine candidate.
My first major contract was with as a newly minted MD.
Interned at UC Davis, was with the Department of the Navy for development of an AIDS vaccine.
I am trained at Northwestern University for my MD.
I hold a license in the state of Maryland.
I'm trained in my graduate studies at the Salk Institute in UC San Diego.
Undergraduate biochemistry at UC Davis.
Multiple research fellowships at UC Davis in the Department of Pathology.
was an academic for well over a decade, reaching associate professor level at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences.
So that's the DoD medical school in DC.
I have been involved in way too many outbreaks intimately.
I spearheaded for DoD for quite a while, the development of their Ebola vaccine candidate, Uh, which eventually I, I brought Merck in, it was licensed to Merck and it's now the Merck licensed Ebola vaccine.
I've worked on flu vaccines.
I've worked on literally all the biodefense vaccines, used to work under contract directly for DoD at Dynaport vaccine company.
Uh, I, I'm, I'm a specialist in, uh, emergency, uh, medical countermeasure development and have been at the forefront of innovation in that for my entire career.
I've also completed a fellowship, and I'm technically a graduate of Harvard Medical School, in global clinical development and research.
People have said I'm the ultimate insider.
I think I worked closely with FDA and DOD for years and years.
I'm also well-versed in regulatory affairs and, of course, clinical development, project management, et cetera.
One thing that struck me listening to your various interviews is the number, the frequency of the acronyms that you threw out, whether it was DITRA, DARPA.
No, no.
I mean, in terms of credibility, the defense agencies, the DOD agencies you've worked with, and when you say things like, and after the outbreak in Wuhan, I was contacted by my former CIA operative who was in Wuhan.
The credibility is definitely there.
The website is rwmalonemd.com.
That's rwmalonemd.com.
We're going to talk about some very important data sets you need to check out there.
But if we may, if I may, start at the beginning.
Can you just one-on-one for us?
What is a vaccine?
How is a vaccine supposed to work?
And what is special about the mRNA vaccine technology that you developed, Dr. Malone?
So what is a vaccine?
The CDC, in their infinite wisdom, has redefined the meaning of that word, just like the meaning of the word anti-vaxxer has been redefined as anybody who is against vaccine mandates.
So you're right in this nuanced area of nomenclature.
I prefer, among other things, yeah, I've had all this training, but I was a carpenter and a farmhand before I was a physician and a scientist.
And I do like to go back to, you know, let's try to use plain language.
So for me, a vaccine is as a vaccine does.
And what a vaccine is intended to do is to elicit an adaptive immune response against some threat, whether it's cancer or a virus or a bacteria or a toxin, et cetera, to protect against disease.
And in the case of infection, against infection and spread, in replication in your body.
So that's my definition of a vaccine for what it's worth.
What is a vaccine used for or intended for?
I think it's useful to think about vaccines as having different types or categories.
I'm going to sneeze in a minute.
Here it goes.
Bless you.
Thank you very much.
So no, I don't have COVID.
I've already had it twice and I've been vaccinated.
So, but I do have allergies.
So, it's useful to think about vaccines in different categories.
There's the cancer vaccines.
We'll park those because that's not really relevant.
Live attenuated vaccines are basically viruses that are tweaked in some way, either intentionally or through passage evolution, to make them less likely to cause disease in humans.
But still elicit a very strong immune response.
So examples of those include the oral polio vaccine, the smallpox vaccine, and the yellow fever vaccine.
All of those are fairly wicked and have risk of causing disease in your body because they're still live viruses.
They're just tweaks so there's less disease causing.
Then we have the vaccines that are more like flu or tetanus or, you know, we can go on and on.
that are inactivated vaccines or subunits.
So these are killed viruses that have been purified or they're virus subunits.
They can be purified from killed viruses or they can be manufactured in cell culture or whatever.
Examples of that in the current is the Novavax product that people are talking about that's manufactured as a spike protein made in insect cells.
To put it in layman's terms, if I may, we're talking about something introduced into the human organism that trains the body's immune response to be prepared and more effective in its defense should the actual virus, the actual disease infect the subject.
And when you mentioned the polio...
Thank you.
And when you say polio and the ones that we've all been vaccinated with, for the layman, we expect that this is permanent or at least semi-permanent protection.
Is that a wrong way of looking at the classic vaccines, Dr. Malone?
It is a useful way to think about it for many viruses.
But in contrast, we all know influenza virus, which is another RNA respiratory virus, like the coronaviruses.
And with these RNA respiratory viruses, traditionally we have not been able to develop a vaccine that provides broad, sustained protection.
And certainly that's the case now with these vaccines.
Now, the RNA vaccines and the adenovirus vaccines are really one of a kind.
And I can speak definitively on this because I was the one that originally came up with this idea.
It's applying gene therapy technology to the purpose of vaccination.
I want to go deep dive on this for a moment, given your ownership of the mRNA.
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Dr. Malone, so let's go from the classic vaccine technology, the ones where, you know, we've all got the marks on our arms.
If you were in the UK and given your polio vaccine or your other vaccines, what is the mRNA that you developed?
What kind of technology is it?
How is it different from the classic technology and why is it still of concern?
So that's, I like to make a bridge with the live attenuated vaccines to understand this.
Yes.
With the live attenuated vaccines, the virus is injecting its genetic material into your cells and replicating virus and causing your immune system to respond in a robust way to develop something like natural immunity.
Okay?
So that's the way the live attenuated ones work.
The idea behind the genetic vaccine, so these are the adenovirus and the mRNA, is that you can elicit a very similar immune response to a live attenuated virus or an actual infection by putting genes from the virus into your cells and causing them to make proteins as if they were infected.
So there's no watered down version of the virus.
This is a gene treatment to elicit the response that we would be a heightened immune response.
Am I understanding correctly?
Correct.
And so then it becomes all about how risky or safe is the way of putting it into your cells and what is the thing that's being made?
What is the virus protein being made?
We call that the payload.
Okay.
And so that, that becomes the key equation and risk benefit ratio.
And that plus the risk of the pathogen that you're trying to protect against.
And so what we have learned now, And some of this is not really in the public awareness, is that the core platform of the RNA delivery itself, as shown by the Moderna data on influenza vaccines, has its own risks.
At 100 microgram dose, over 90% of the patients in those trials had adverse events, and about 20 to 30% had Grade 3 out of 4 adverse events.
Are these, for example, myocarditis or is it a variety of adverse reactions?
Moderna did not disclose the specifics on this influenza vaccine trial.
So what we know only is the aggregate number and severity of the adverse events in this phase 1 trial that they disclosed only to their investors.
And then we have the issue of what is the payload, and what has become clear is that, as I said many, many months ago on the Dark Horse podcast with Brett and Steve, spike is a toxin when it's expressed by the virus, and its toxicity has not been altered by the two point mutations that were placed in it in the S2 stem, which makes it so that it's locked into the open conformation, but it still remains able
to cause damage, it binds to ACE2, et cetera.
So there is toxicity associated with the payload, the spike protein, and there's also toxicity associated with the formulation technology, with the mRNA.
That is incontrovertible.
Can you break down for, again, I'm a PhD, but it's political science, so I'm talking to you as a layman on behalf of our millions of listeners and viewers.
Can you talk about the spike protein significance?
How that is, you know, the avenue of attack for the virus, the significance of this spike protein?
And on top of that we hear reports, and maybe you can disabuse us of their significance, of this concept of the cytokine storm and a reaction being created in the subject's bodies that really isn't necessary or good in terms of heightened immune response to the COVID-19 SARS-2.
So can you break down the significance of the spike and whether these reports of the cytokine storm are in fact factual or just rumors?
So let's take the latter first.
The term cytokine storm is a particular diagnostic term, and it is kind of an end stage.
So we prefer to talk about a hyper-inflammatory response, and there's no question that this disease, COVID-19, has two phases.
One is the viremic phase, and that is not the part that kills you.
And one is your body's hyper-inflammatory response to the parts of the virus.
The metaphor is used as the difference between a car and the car parts.
So your immune system overreacts in many people that have these various pre-existing conditions, age, diabetes, morbid obesity, etc.
It overreacts to the remaining virus parts that remain in your body.
And that is what kills you.
So now let's talk about spike.
Spike itself has biologic activity.
It binds to cell receptors, ACE2.
ACE2 is a key protein in regulating a variety of biologic processes, including cell contraction, permeability, blood pressure, fluid balance through kidney, a whole bunch of things are regulated by ACE2, which is present in many cells in the body.
When spike binds to ACE2, it alters its activity in many cells that triggers it.
We all understand being triggered.
And so it triggers various biological activity, which includes contraction of small, smooth muscle cells that control your blood pressure, among other things.
And it's clear that the administration of these products and both the virus and the vaccines can cause a variety of toxic effects and many of these are traceable to the spike protein, which is the part of the virus that it uses to grab onto your cells and infect them.
So these include opening the blood brain barrier, direct damage to cells.
Now that direct damage is mostly due to the fusion properties of the spike protein, which are inactivated in the vaccine version of spike, but there's all of the toxicities associated with activation of ACE2 and binding of ACE2, and that is all preserved in the vaccine-encoded spike protein.
And unfortunately, what happens with a natural infection typically comes in through your nose or oropharynx, and it infects those tissues, and then it gradually grows.
and produces more and more spike at the same time that your immune system is kicking in and neutralizing that spike.
What happens with the jab is that your body produces a sudden surge of a high level of spike protein and it produces it in the systemic cells of your body, not in your mucosal tissues.
And so it's very different.
People say, well, it's spike, you know, and what's the difference?
Well, there's a big difference.
It matters a lot.
How much gets made and where.
And there's a huge difference there between the virus infection and these genetic vaccines.
Right.
And because, of course, the area of focus you're interested in is where the virus has actually infected you, not the idea for a response across the whole body.
Absolutely fascinating.
Just so.
Exactly.
Wow.
I'm learning so much.
I'm so grateful.
We'll talk to Dr. Robert Malone, Chief Medical and Regulatory Officer at the Unity Project.
The Unity Project
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Thank you.
Can you talk to us about, and I'm asking this selfishly because I haven't had any of the vaccines.
I had COVID over a year ago, very mild case.
I was taking hydroxy prophylaxis for months beforehand.
I was given ivermectin.
I was tired for a couple of days.
I will not be vaccinated.
But for those who are considering vaccination or whose family members have been vaccinated, can you walk us through, Dr. Malone, the various vaccines, which use traditional technology, which are new technology, and how you would categorize each of them?
So there, I think there's 10 licensed vaccines by the World Health Organization currently.
We only have availability of three in the United States.
And they're basically the only one, only the ones that Tony Fauci will allow the FDA to advance.
There's a fourth that I think may have been submitted to the FDA, which is the Novavax product.
Which is still waiting, right?
Which hasn't been approved.
Just so, just so.
And people ask me, is Novavax, I used to, I know the leadership at Novavax.
They were clients of mine at a prior company.
I know the technology really, really well.
Novavax is not really a traditional vaccine.
It uses a novel adjuvant.
That's the thing that helps stimulate your immune system.
It's produced in insect cells, so caterpillar or moth cells.
They put sugars on in different ways than our body does.
It is a kind of Particle-like structure that is budded off.
So it's like an exosome that's budded off of the insect cells.
So that's not traditional.
So it's not to call it a traditional vaccine is a misstep, but it's closer to a traditional vaccine.
It's not a genetic vaccine and it is still mismatched.
It is designed after the original alpha variant and not after Omicron.
So it's still going to have those problems.
So still makes spike.
But it doesn't put it in your cells.
And the spike it's making is mismatched to Omicron.
And it does have these variants in terms of its structure.
Sorry, carry on.
Then we have the J&J product or Janssen product.
That's a recombinant DNA virus.
It's called an adenovirus.
We call it a cold virus.
And genes of the adenovirus have been pulled out.
and a DNA segment that will cause your body to make the spike protein is inserted, and then it basically infects your cells in your body.
So that's the J&J product.
That's based on technology that also came out of the Salk Institute when I was there with Dinko Valerio, and it is designed as a gene therapy vector for high-level long-term expression of proteins.
And so no surprise that that one has more adverse events associated with it than either of the RNA vaccines.
Then the next one, if we're going in these three that are licensed, we're going from most highest level of adverse events, that would be J&J, down to lowest.
So the next one in that stack is Moderna.
Moderna uses 100 micrograms of RNA.
It is using the mRNA delivery technology, including the pseudouridines that is in the Pfizer BioNTech product.
The lipids are slightly different, but functionally the same.
And that has a 100 microgram dose.
Sebastian, you'll appreciate this.
The kernel that headed up the OWS program for Moderna called me months ago.
I had mentored him years ago over the Ebola project and when he was in LTC and he shared with me that the choice of the 100 microgram dose for Moderna was made by committee by the government because there were some that thought they should go to 50 and some that the shot thought they should go to 200 and they basically split the difference.
That's how the 100 mic dose was derived for Moderna.
Then next down in the stack of risk is Pfizer-BioNTech.
They're at 30 micrograms of RNA, and they have lower levels of adverse events.
Then there was the failed vaccine candidate at a much lower dose, I think it was 12 mics, of CureVac, never licensed, does not include the pseudouridines, but still was
Over 40% protective against some of the earlier variants, and they've just completed a study with a higher level of RNA, more akin to Pfizer, and that vaccine seems to be similarly effective, but it's not licensed in the U.S.
What's significant there is it doesn't include the pseudouridine, which is the basis of the Curriculum Weissman claims that they have the enabling discovery that has made all this possible, which I dispute.
So there's a quickie overview of the ones that are available in the States, and then there's a number of others.
The CoronaVac, unfortunately marketed by China, which is the whole inactivated version, that one is actually looking fairly effective against some of these newer strains.
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We're talking to Dr. Robert Malone.
The website you must check out right now is rwmalonemd.com.
I'm running out of time.
So many questions I need to ask you.
The most important for me, because I think it's the greatest tragedy beyond the deaths caused by the China virus, is the future of our children.
When I see Children being charged with trespassing in Virginia because they refused to wear a mask in a school that the governor says requires no masks.
The long-term damage, and I'm not talking about cancer patients who weren't treated because of the lockdowns, but I know you're not a child psychologist, but you must talk to your colleagues in those fields.
We could be facing decades worth of damage done to future generations.
You are exactly right.
So to this point, I did have a podcast with a pediatric cardiologist, Kurt Milhoun, and a child psychiatrist practicing in LA named Mark McDonald.
You can find that podcast at theunityprojectonline.com.
And Mark, in particular, is very clear that we have profound damage against our children from these policies.
There's measurable loss of IQ in the very young, like 20 points.
Childhood delays, deep psychological scarring.
The state has inserted itself.
California is particularly egregious in this, no surprise.
The state has inserted itself into the family and damaged the family.
I've had to serve as expert witness in cases where a child was insisting on getting vaccinated and the parents wouldn't allow them.
There's this new bill in the state of California to extend the age of consent down to 12 so that they can pressure these kids to get vaccine even when their parents don't want it.
The damage here is deep and profound and it's not just cardiomyopathy and it's going to be with us for decades.
All right, I will leave that out there to be discussed at a later date when Dr. Malone can join us in studio.
Penultimate question.
National experiences.
You saw we're having a trip to Israel at the end of the year.
I'll stand with Israel tour.
Voices, chief medical officers, others in Israel are saying the maximal vaccination policy was wrong.
They want to scrap the passport.
UK, Denmark, now Finland are closing their restrictions.
Did anybody get it right in terms of policy?
And how shocking was it to you that so many nations replicated communist China's health policies after the outbreak?
Replicated communist China's policies as aped by our own government.
Yeah.
And many of those Western nations followed the United States as state's lead.
And now we have severely damaged our standing in the world as leaders in pharmaceutical development and public health.
So you're right.
We've had discussions with the president of Israel, and I'm really comforted that the Israelis are coming back around.
And I'll be testifying this Sunday before a very large Orthodox Jew rabbinical court, a smaller version previously put out an edict that children shall not be vaccinated and strongly discouraged vaccination in adults.
What I'm surprised by is how dug in the Biden administration has been.
I thought politically that they would flip following Boris Johnson's flip under pressure.
Uh, and stop the mandates before we had our stop the mandates March in DC and, uh, they didn't, they just dug in deeper.
So what I see is an administration headed up by a gentleman who is intellectually past his prime.
And we'll just put a point on that.
And, uh, he's surrounded by an information bubble.
with a bunch of sycophants and relying on Tony Fauci.
And real data, as you can see from the Jen Psaki statements that are demonstrably false, real information is not breaking through into the leadership circle in this administration.
And so we're all suffering the consequences.
And in particular, we didn't have time to talk about the Thomas Rents Let's talk about the rents data available at your website.
We must mention it.
So please go ahead.
So there is a large data package that was disclosed by whistleblowers from a DoD database that's available.
There is an Excel spreadsheet.
It is still in the process of being verified.
The data there are shocking if they withstand scrutiny.
The data are as represented as downloaded from the DOD database, and there is clear documentation that the CDC had awareness and availability of that database.
So, to be determined still, I think it's still an investigational stage.
But there's no question that these were the data on the DOD database called DMED.
This is the Defense Medical Epidemiologic Database.
The chain of custody is bomb-proof on that.
And the only discussion now is whether that database had not accurately captured the data for the preceding five years.
Stay tuned for further developments.
And the data so far indicate what, Dr. Malone?
The raw analysis suggests that a variety of adverse events are occurring after the vaccination in fiscal year 2021 compared to fiscal year 2020 in the DoD highly vaccinated mandated population.
And those are occurring at rates in the range of 200 to 300 to 1,000% increase over the prior year.
And that data can be found on your personal website, correct?
Correct, as provided by Thomas Rance as an Excel spreadsheet.
Fabulous.
Let's put that website up there, Eric.
That's Dr. Malone's personal website.
Please put that in the Chiron.
Last question, and I would like to continue this.
That's rwmalonemd.com.
At your next earliest convenience, I know you've been traveling a lot, but we have to continue this discussion because we only have a handful of medical professionals who are prepared to actually amplify the truth.
I don't think he was too woke.
He was the exact opposite.
You know what woke means?
It means you're a loser.
Everything woke.
Everything woke.
It's true.
Dr. Malone, what is it that you would like to say to our listeners what is it that you would like to say to our listeners and our viewers across the country is the thing that they should be paying attention to the most, which is not being paid
So with my personal physician, Dr. Sam Pappas, who comes on the show, we've discussed COVID again and again and again.
Our layman's advice or our just generic advice is you make decisions about your health.
with your position, that's what the starting point should be.
The Hippocratic oath, first do no harm, which applies to masks and children and everything else.
But from your perspective, as somebody in the trenches fighting every day for the truth, what is the one focal point that we all should be paying attention to? - So one key point comes from the Nuremberg Accords.
If there's risk, there must be choice.
So you have the right to fully understand the risks associated with these vaccines, as well as the risks due to the virus.
In most of us, the risks due to the virus, particularly Omicron, are negligible, and the risks associated with the vaccines are not trivial.
So get educated about that.
If there's risk, there should be choice.
The data set that is emerging that is most interesting Is the all cause mortality and morbidity coming out of the insurance industry and the Q4 reports from 2020 are coming in now and they are, uh, I'm sorry, 2021.
And they're shocking.
Um, the, this it's first, we had a multi-billion dollar upper Midwest company disclosing a 40% increase in mortality.
And now we have multiple reports coming in an annual report fashion for their stock reports from virtually every major insurance company in the United States, documenting that after the rollout of the vaccines, morbidity and mortality numbers jump off the page more than three standard deviations above what they were previously.
So in terms of the emerging data, Insurance actuaries are probably the most reliable for all cause events and as opposed to CDC or others in these various databases.
And what's coming in is amazing.
Ed Dowd is leading on that and you can find his posts at Getter and you can also find my retweet by reposting his various observations about what's coming out of the insurance industry.
On my own getter account at R.W.
Malone, M.D.
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Constant new data, new findings, new revelations.
Can we tempt you back to continue the conversation, Dr. Malone?
Of course, sir, and thank you for the opportunity to share this information with you now.
Well, thank you for fighting for the truth.
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