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Dec. 30, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
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Chris Stigall LIVE: The COVID Lies Continue
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Just a thrill to be with you today, Merry Christmas.
We still are in the Christmas season.
And an upcoming Happy New Year to you.
My name is Chris Stegall.
Glad to be sitting in for Seb today.
A proud Sebastian Gorka affiliate.
Philadelphia's AM 990 The Answer.
Hope you had a great holiday season or are in the midst of having a great holiday season.
Thrilled to come off the bench.
I've actually taken the morning off of my morning show in Philly for the week, so this is actually me as complete... There's no excuse for screw-ups today, guys, because I am 100% rested and recharged.
This is the only show I'm doing in a solid week.
So any screw-ups or disappointments, first of all, expect a full refund.
But secondly, this is as good as it gets.
So if you're disappointed by hour two or three, I guess you've been warned.
Great to be with you today.
You know the phone number, and I'd love to hear from you.
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I was out to lunch with some friends of mine over the holiday who I haven't seen in person in quite a while, old fraternity brothers of mine from college.
And we were all talking about the pandemic and how it has, you know, just kind of fundamentally changed our workplaces, obviously, like so many of us across the country.
A lot of people are working mobily or whatever.
Maybe you have never gone back to your place of business.
What I was struck by was the number of them, all different kinds of work, but all of us had the same story, and it was some version of People that have not worked in the office for about a year and are still not working in the office.
And in fact, some of my friends who are, you know, kind of in charge of departments or certain numbers of people, some of them told me that they're calling up employees saying, hey, you know, let's meet or why don't you come back in the new year and we'll get together for a meeting.
And they're saying, uh, No, I didn't plan on coming back.
I don't intend to come back.
So they're telling me in some cases they're having kind of a problem, a back and forth, almost some consternation about whether or not they're ever going to get employees back.
And in some cases, and this amazed me the most, They said some of their employees and their colleagues are saying, hey, I moved to North Carolina or I moved out here to Montana.
Like, I'm not coming back.
I've been doing work for a year remotely from my new house and my new office.
And they just moved without ever telling their employer they moved.
And they figured, well, I guess we're never going back.
So there are people that literally just moved without telling their employers and kind of operated under the assumption they've been doing it well for over a year.
Why not continue doing it that way?
And I was kind of blown away by that.
I mean, radio being what it is, we're obviously able to be somewhat mobile and we can work from various spots.
Not as tough, but for those of you that have a place of business where you've traditionally gone into an office, I'm amazed at the number of people that are basically operating under the assumption they'll never go back to work again.
And it isn't that I didn't know that intellectually, I guess I just hadn't really stopped to process it until this conversation.
And then I came across, just a couple of days ago, this Wall Street Journal piece called The Great Pandemic Migration.
And it absolutely fascinated me, and I wondered if it applies to anyone in this audience.
I bet it does.
And again, 833-33-GORKA the number.
I'd love to hear from you on this today because they write the pandemic has changed America in many ways and one major change is the migration from states that locked down their economies and schools to those that kept them largely open.
And that's the underreported news in the Census Bureau state population and domestic migration estimates that were released last week, July 1st of 2020 to July 1st of this year.
Data used for this year's congressional reappointment was based on where people claim to live April 1st of 2020, but what a difference 15 months of lockdowns has made in that.
For instance, Illinois' population declined by another 141,000 between spring 2020 and this past summer as 151,500 people left the state for another state.
between spring 2020 and this past summer as 151,500 people left the state for another state.
California, not surprisingly, lost 300,000 amid a net out migration of 429,000 residents.
The biggest loser, which you probably could have well guessed before now, if you didn't think it was California, you know the runner up would have to be New York.
Their population shrunk 365,000 people due to an outflow of 406,000 residents.
Now, on the other hand, those of you in Texas, this won't surprise you, Texas added 382,400 new residents, including 211,000 from other states.
Florida gained 242,941 in population as 264,000 people from other states flooded in.
Florida's population growth would have been greater if not for the high number of COVID deaths, which is a result of its older population.
Same for Arizona.
Which grew by another 124,000.
Migration from high to low tax states, especially those in the Sun Belt, has been going on for well over a decade, but the trend picked up during this pandemic.
Democrat states tended to impose strict lockdowns and school closures.
Those governed by Republicans allowed most businesses and schools to stay open.
Connecticut, for the first time since 2011, had a net increase of migration from other states.
That's probably because many New York office workers moved from Manhattan and into Connecticut to do remote work, as I was just talking about.
But, Democrat Governor Ned Lamont in Connecticut also pushed to keep schools open last winter.
He imposed fewer pandemic restrictions than The former rapey governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo.
The COVID data that was tracked by this group called Rational Ground calculated that the 25 states with the most in-person learning during the 2020-2021 school year gained 822,000.
Let me say that again.
school year gained 822,000.
Let me say that again.
The 25 states with the most in-person learning gained 822,000 people from other states in It's impossible to precisely quantify the cause and effect impact of school closures and lockdowns on population migration, but the correlation is clear from the data.
And that's also the impact of rising taxes that has to be considered.
Washington State, which has no income tax, for example, before the pandemic was drawing people from other states.
It saw a small net outflow this past year because of Inslee's severe lockdowns and school closures, but the state isn't helping by imposing a 7% tax on capital gains exceeding $250,000.
Can you imagine at a time like this putting a 7% tax on cap gains of $250k or more in a state like Washington where it's going to cost at least that annually to live there?
Remote work has made high earners more mobile, and raising their taxes is fiscally self-destructive.
Cuomo was the king of self-destruction.
In the spring, he signed legislation raising income taxes on individuals more than $1 million even as tax revenues surged.
The top state and local combined rate climbed from 14.8 to 14.8, I should say, from 12.7 on income of more than 25 million.
Many GOP-led states, including Tennessee, and Tennessee's a big one.
I know there are a lot of conservative broadcasters, columnists, online contributors that are all flooding into Tennessee right now.
Tennessee, Idaho, Arkansas have cut taxes during the pandemic.
More than a dozen, such as Georgia, Missouri, and West Virginia also expanded school choice, as did a few governed by Democrats like Kansas and Pennsylvania.
The pandemic, let's hope, is a once-in-a-lifetime event.
It's caused enormous social and economic upheaval, along with population shifts that won't repeat every year.
Yet it's also heightened the distinction between Republican lawmakers who strive to protect individual freedom, even amid crisis, and Democrats who impose more government control.
Differences in policies and political values won't recede with the virus, and it's clear from the census data Which side is winning the contest for talent and taxpayers?
This is a huge development.
Probably the biggest story of the pandemic, if you ask me.
I'd love to hear from you if this is impacting you.
I want to discuss this more with our great friend and economist, Steve Moore, coming up.
The Great Pandemic Migration.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Great to be back with you.
My name is Chris Stegall in for Sebastian Gorka.
This is America First.
It is a just real thrill to be with you today and I do hope you'll give me a ring at 833-33-GORKA if there's anything on your mind today as we head toward the new year.
We're still in the Christmas season.
I wish you a very Merry Christmas.
Hope everything's going well for you and you've had a great holiday with family or friends or whatever you're doing.
If you're working today, Hey, thanks for continuing to hang in there and do a little work.
As I was saying earlier, I typically speak with Steve Moore, my friend, every single week on the show, but I'm taking the week off.
So this is actually me coming back from a little vacation with my friend Steve Moore, who I call our Chief Economist of the show in Philadelphia.
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That's all at Chris Stegall, C-H-R-I-S-S-T-I-G-A-L-L.
So I thought it'd be fun, since I'm technically on vacation, to call Steve, since I'm filling in, call him off the bench on vacation to do a little work with me.
Steve, oh, it's great to have you here.
Happy New Year, my friend.
Hey, Chris, it's so good to be with you.
I hope you had a Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and incidentally, you must be the hardest working man in show business, because I know that, I think you were on WMAL, Last week I think I heard you on the Washington, D.C.
station.
Was that you?
That is me.
It's kind of my radio version of panhandling.
I just, you know, market to market, hat in hand, wherever they'll hire me, wherever they'll have me.
Was that the morning show?
That's the station I listened to, and I can't remember which show you were doing.
But you were, I don't remember whether you were Larry O'Connor or which one you were doing, but you did a fantastic job.
And anyway, look, I love talking to you every Wednesday morning on your Philadelphia station.
We didn't do it this week, so I've got to tell you, I am very worried right now, Chris, about what's going on with our schools.
You know, the holidays are going to be over in four or five days.
kids who have to get back to school and you know where i live in maryland our schools are going to be shut down in chicago which is as you know the town i'm from did you see the teachers union 90 of the teachers members in the union uh have voted against going back to school this is a tragedy this christ i cannot overstate what a disaster this will be for our children and our country
if we allow these teachers unions and these bureaucrats to deny our kids more They've already lost a year of school, Chris.
We cannot even have one more week of schools shut down.
And if the teachers' unions don't want to teach, we've got to get them out of the way and get people in those classrooms that will teach our children.
By the way, there's no evidence, Chris.
I know I'm going on and on, but I feel so strongly about this.
There's zero evidence that it is in the health interest of the kids not to be in school.
In fact, the kids that stayed home were more likely to get sick than the kids who went to school, for goodness sake!
So, I don't understand the logic of it.
I think it is so debilitating to the educational achievement and the emotional development of our kids not to be in the classroom.
Steve Moore, chief economist of my program, and a great friend of the Sebastian Gorka America First radio program.
And Steve, I was reading about this piece in the Wall Street Journal a couple of days ago, headlined, The Great Pandemic Migration.
And in fact, one of the things that they talked about, this census data that's been released, it shows how hundreds of thousands, millions of people really, are migrating from these locked down, highly restricted states to free states, and school choice was a biggie.
Yes.
Yep, yep, yep.
And you're exactly right.
You know, if people, if the schools won't be open in one state, people will move.
People care about their kids, Chris.
They care a lot about their kids.
We learned that in Virginia, you know, where Glenn Youngkin won the election because the Democrats said that parents don't matter.
Well, parents do matter and they do have a voice and they have a loud voice in what our schools should be doing.
And you're right about this.
I did the, I just did an analysis of this census data.
I do a report every year that people should go to.
It's called The Rich States, Poor States.
We put this out now for 18 years, and we find, as you would expect, that people are moving to places that have more economic freedom, that have low taxes, that are right-to-work states, that don't have a heavy hand of regulation.
You see businesses, you see people, you see capital moving to those places.
And if you look at that list, for people who haven't seen that list of where people moved to in the last year, what you find is it was states like Montana, Utah, Idaho, and then, of course, Florida, Texas, Tennessee.
Gee, Chris, what do all these states have in common?
They are red states.
They have more economic freedom.
I mean, you look at Texas, Florida, Tennessee, they have zero income tax.
So this stuff really matters.
And, Steve, when you talk about these population shifts, what does that ultimately mean, particularly when you're raising taxes on income in the states that are being vacated?
I mean, you know, states, blue states that tax never seem to do with less.
I assume that anybody that stays behind can assume more of the same is coming.
I mean, if you're losing population and you continue to ratchet up income taxes in states like Illinois and Washington, for instance, that math doesn't seem to wash to me.
Yeah, it's like a dog chasing its tail.
So you keep raising taxes and then people leave and then you lose your tax base.
You have to raise your taxes more and then more people leave and it's a very negative sum game.
It becomes a spiral downward.
And meanwhile, I just got back yesterday.
I wish I were still there.
I was in Florida for four or five days right after Christmas.
And I got to tell you, I mean, that state is completely open.
It has no income tax.
People are happy.
Look, it's a lot of sunshine.
It was 75 degrees.
There's a lot of reasons to be happy this time of year in Florida.
But the point is, it's almost sometimes when you're in the Northeast, in a state like Pennsylvania, like you're in, or New York, or Maryland, and then you go to Florida, you feel sometimes like you're in a different country.
Because people are, you know, people act responsibly, they social distance, and when appropriate they wear a mask.
But people get on with their life, you know, and this is what I find so distressing about this idea of lockdown.
Lock everything down, everybody cuddle, you know, in the fetal position in your house.
No, we're Americans, we soldier on.
And the evidence is, again, crystal clear.
Lockdowns did not work, Chris.
They did not reduce the spread of the virus.
And let's not make that mistake again.
Do you think, and one of the things I led with today, Steve, and if you have time I want to hold you over for another segment, but one of the things I led with was this dynamic of people that have decided to do their work remotely because they've been allowed, but now as employees are saying, hey, let's think about you coming back in the new year.
People are literally saying, no, I don't want to.
I'm going to continue to do my work remotely or I've already moved out of state too late.
And so you literally have employers that are now negotiating with employees to come back.
What does that mean to you economically?
Well, why are they able to do that?
That's the question.
And I'm going to answer my own question.
The reason is because we have flooded the American economy with all of these welfare benefits, all of this free money.
You saw, you know, people shopped like crazy this year.
It was a good Christmas season for the retailers because the government gave people all this money, and guess what?
They went out and spent it.
Now, that's fine.
You can do that in the short term, but you can't keep doing that, you know, month after month after month, right, Chris?
I mean, you know, pretty soon, as Margaret Thatcher said, you run out of other people's money.
And so my point is, a lot of people aren't going back to work now because they don't have to because the government's become their, you know, They're basically the one that's providing them with their income.
And in many cases, you can get practically more money for not working than for working.
And that's keeping people out of the workforce, and it's hurting our economy greatly.
Steve Moore, hang on just a second, because when we get back, I also want to talk to you about remote working.
People that are working, but they're working remotely, and they have moved in this great shift.
So hang on with us.
My name's Chris Stegall, sitting in for Seb today.
833-33-GORKA, the number.
Come on back to America First in just a second.
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Thanks, Seb!
No, no, I don't know how good it is.
I once said of Sebastian Gorka on my morning show in Philadelphia, I'm a proud Gorka affiliate out there in Philadelphia, Philadelphia's AM 990 The Answer, I once said of Seb that he has a voice and he has a love of radio, you can just tell.
There are some guys that come from the private sector or politics and they're given a radio show and between you and me, They stink.
They're just no good at it.
Gorka, entirely different cat.
To my knowledge, had never done radio before.
I could be wrong, and I don't know his full history in broadcast.
Obviously, when I met him, I knew he'd been doing a lot of television and he had been working in the Trump administration and advocating on behalf of President Trump.
And then when he was given a show, a radio show, he took to it immediately.
And you could tell he loves this format.
And I said that I think that this guy reminds me of somebody from like the 30s and 40s, like when they would bring in the props and make their own sound effects.
Like he would absolutely excel at it.
And then the gate opened.
He would bring in the rusty gate hinge and make the sound.
He would love that.
The hand crank, the whole thing.
So thank you, Dr. G. It is a thrill to be here behind the mic.
Listen, and not for nothing, all of us in this business would kill for those pipes.
You know, that's not an affect either.
That's really him.
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I wish I could get there.
I just had a cigar before the show today, desperately hoping it would kick in.
It didn't get there, but anyway, thank you.
No, I'm sorry, 833-33-GORKA is how you reach us today.
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We'll go to the phones with you in just a minute.
Because I'm fascinated with this great pandemic migration piece in the Wall Street Journal.
Steve Moore is back with us.
Speaking of former President Trump, he was part of his economic team and gave lots of great economic counsel, you know, when the economy was roaring along and has watched with horror at what's unfolded over this last year under Biden.
He's back with us again.
It's real, Steve.
These people are moving, millions of people shifting from state to state, not just because of taxes.
We also covered the lockdowns, but I was also just curious what you think Or do we know yet what it means for people that are no longer going into an office and have been and continue to and may permanently work remotely?
Is that a net negative, positive?
Do you have an opinion on that one way or the other?
Well, let me just say one more thing, if I may, Chris, about this migration, because this is something that's been happening now for 30, 40 years, where more and more people are moving to the southern states, to the mountain states, the states where more economic freedom, lower taxes, less government, more personal freedom.
That's what people want.
People want freedom.
Not everybody does, and the people don't necessarily want it.
They stay behind in New York and New Jersey and Michigan and all these things.
But what's so interesting, because I debate liberals all the time on the economy, oh, taxes don't matter, it doesn't matter, you know, if you have runaway government spending.
And I always say, okay, if taxes don't matter, I ask, do you know what Prof Krugman is?
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
For those who don't follow this stuff that closely, he was probably the most influential left-wing economist in the country.
He writes once or twice a week for the New York Times.
Believe it or not, he has a Nobel Prize.
He's very proud of himself.
He thinks he has all the answers.
So I debated him a few years ago.
And by the way, it creamed him in that debate.
I don't mind saying so myself.
No doubt about it.
Paul, you say all these things, you know, it doesn't matter if taxes are too high and blah, blah, blah.
So why is it then, Paul, that high taxes are such a good thing and forced union policies are such a good thing and high welfare benefits are so great?
Why is it that people are leaving the states that have high taxes and high welfare benefits and forced union policies and on and on and on?
And they're going to the states with either no income tax or low income taxes and so on and so forth.
They're going to Texas and they're going to Florida and they're going to Tennessee and Utah and Montana.
And I'll never forget, Paul Krugman, you know, the left doesn't have a good answer to that question, Chris.
They just don't.
Because I've asked my liberal friends as many times.
They do not have an answer for why people are moving to places like Texas and Florida and Utah.
And finally, Paul Kuzma said, I'm not making this up.
You can look it up on YouTube, folks.
And Paul Krugman finally said, Steve, they're moving these states because of the weather.
Here's the problem with that.
I know you're laughing, but here's the problem.
And then I nailed Krugman bad, and I hit him below the belt, and I don't even feel bad about it.
I said, well, Paul, that's a really interesting point you make, that people are moving Florida, Texas, for the weather.
There's no question Florida has a lot better weather than, say, Pennsylvania, or New York, or New Jersey.
And then I said, but I really, I dealt with them hard.
I said, well, but what I don't understand, Paul Krugman, is why people are moving from San Diego, California, to Houston, Texas.
Nobody does that for the weather.
We didn't have any response to that.
But the point is, it's our best evidence that freedom and free enterprise and low taxes work.
It's called a reveal conference.
People want to live in places that don't have that.
That's why Pennsylvania, the state you're in, it should get rid of its income tax.
You want to bring more jobs to Pennsylvania?
Get rid of your income tax!
Stevo, I gotta run.
So great to talk to you, my friend.
Happy New Year.
We'll talk in the New Year.
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Let's head right to the phones.
Go to Aaron in Arkansas to kick it off.
Aaron, glad you called America First.
Good to be with you.
Happy New Year.
Happy New Year.
Yeah, I moved from Washington State down to Arkansas.
I mean, you listed off some of them, the 7% state tax they want to push in.
But a lot of it was the education part of it, the lockdowns, I need traffic to make a living.
With the lockdowns, there was no traffic, it crushed my income.
So we had to start looking around.
Sorry to interrupt, Aaron.
May I ask generally what you do for a living?
Or did?
I do collision work.
I fix wrecked cars.
No wrecks.
It'll work.
And so, that's fascinating.
Never even thought about it, because people weren't driving as much, you saw less income, less business.
Exactly.
Everybody working from home.
The shipyards were locked down, because where we were at, there was a lot of shipyard stuff.
But just a lot of everybody working from home.
I mean, my wife spent almost a year and a half, two years working from home, and she saw what it did to me, and it just crushed our income, my savings.
You know, I would double my wife's paychecks, and I went to making half of what she made.
How did you choose, just out of curiosity, how did you choose Arkansas from Washington State?
Well, my wife's from Montana.
We looked at Montana, but there's really the cost of living, like, for a house.
The average house in Montana is almost $640,000.
Anywhere you're going to be able to work.
I need traffic, so you're looking at Butte, Bozeman, Billings kind of areas.
Well, the housing prices skyrocketed.
Idaho, same thing.
Utah, same thing.
And I wanted, you know, some trees, mountains, lakes, rivers.
I like to hunt and fish.
You know, Texas properties skyrocketed.
So when we look, and I wanted super majorities, all three branches of state government had to be Republican.
So it whittled out a lot of the states.
And when I looked at the cost of living, the cost of houses, and I looked at, I make more in Arkansas than I did in Washington, pay less for everything else.
I got twice the size of a house for the same price, the cost of living, the price of gas.
My daughter didn't have to wear a diaper on her face.
She got to go in-person schooling.
My wife's back at the office.
I'm back to making what I used to make.
And so life was a lot better.
I hear it's almost, you know, normal America.
It's like, you know, like Florida or Texas or whatever.
It's just, it's normal again.
And I don't have to wear a mask.
I don't have to do any of that crap.
I can walk in and out of the grocery store, daughter goes to school, no mask, no problem.
And it's just, I love it.
Aaron, I'm so happy for you and your family.
That is a wonderful story, and I'm thrilled that you're having such success in Arkansas from Washington.
I mean, that right there, and thank you for calling the show, by the way.
I appreciate it.
Have a happy New Year.
That's federalism, folks.
That's federalism in action.
Dispersed power.
It's crucial to preserving liberty.
Your ability to pick up and move and leave and lead a life In a different state, in a different community.
And this, by the way, interests me deeply as we come into the new year and how the Supreme Court is going to rule on this stupid OSHA mandate on the private sector.
By the way, now that Biden has said there is no federal solution whatsoever, these authoritarian morons running the executive and legislative branches of government now admitting they have no idea what the hell they're doing and there is no solution anyway.
And the Democrat Party is based on federal solutions for everything.
That's what their MO is.
They don't know what to do with themselves.
They don't know what to offer you if it's not a, we're in control, we're in charge, obey us.
Mandates for shots?
Those are as stupid as mandates for critical race theory in school.
And these issues are central to who Democrats are.
Using race as a wedge.
It's used as a means of controlling every aspect of our lives.
That's what Democrats do.
But even as Biden says there's no federal solution to public health, what does that say about Obamacare while we're at it?
I mean, it's really kind of amazing that this stupid old man says he lets it slip that he has no federal solution to the virus, which, of course, sensible, sane people always understood.
But think about it.
What does it mean for Obamacare?
That was a central planning idea as well that was sadly upheld, courtesy of John Roberts, called a tax.
What does that say about mail-in voting?
That's another central planning idea.
Top-down, federal planning, the federal government runs all our elections, they have a uniform code of the way all states and municipalities will conduct their elections, which is not the way the Constitution structures it, but it's what Democrats want.
Codifying dispersed power creates the greatest country the world has ever seen, and there's only one political party that might, might, still embrace that fact.
I'm sad I have to say might, but the closest that we'll come to it is what the Republicans are offering.
It's so critical, it's so important, and Aaron just so beautifully articulated it.
We have so much more to get to.
I can't wait to hear from you.
My name is Chris Stegall.
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Hello, Chris.
Welcome in.
I'm Chris, in for Seb today.
Happy New Year.
Hey, Brother Chris.
How you doing, sir?
Doing well.
Very well.
Thank you.
Hey, listen.
I just got a few comments here.
One, so it appears that the vaccinated can still spread the virus.
Is that correct, sir?
It seems to be true, yes.
Oh, okay.
Well, so, and now it appears that the cloth masks aren't working, sir.
Also seems to be true, yes.
Yes, sir.
So, at what point does the N95 masks no longer work.
Right.
Well, there's a lot.
And actually, you know, coming up, and I want to get into this, we're learning a lot of things that we don't seem to know.
Like, here's something I would like to know.
I don't know about you, Chris.
Wouldn't you like to know, for instance, I got COVID this year.
My wife and I both did.
Neither of us have had the shot.
OK.
That's not a statement of anything you should do or shouldn't do or listen to me.
I'm just saying we haven't had the shot.
We got sick.
All right.
So now we're recovered.
We're fine.
Wouldn't it be interesting to know, for instance, If people like me are inclined to catch COVID again, and if so, how sick I'll get, shouldn't we study that?
And doesn't it surprise you that in fact there is no study of people like me?
Are you telling me there's no statistics for people like you and I who elected not to get vaccinated but got COVID and now have natural immunity?
No such study that I can find, sir, no.
Well, that's quite distressing, but not strange during these times.
I'm just curious, you know, with all this going on, okay, we're vaccinated, we're unvaccinated, we can all spread the virus.
Now it's becoming watered down to the point where people are confusing it with a regular cold, naturally.
We should protect the vulnerable.
But at what point is the world no longer going to freak out over this, right?
I cannot imagine at this point, knowing all that we know, Chris, and I'm so thankful for the call, I can't imagine being panicked.
I can't imagine being worried.
I can't imagine being in agony.
I don't know what kind of hell you must live in personally to be worried or panicked at this stage of the game.
What with plentiful and readily available therapeutics, a full understanding of what this is, the shot available for you if you want it, including booster if you want it, There is no reason to live in terror of this anymore.
There's no reason to lock ourselves down and act like this is 2020 of March all over again.
It's preposterous, of course.
A lot of stories, in fact, in front of me today, and I haven't even begun to unpack them yet, on testing, on, yes, natural antibodies, Biden admitting there is no federal solution.
I mean, it's what thinking people always understood.
So I probably don't need to go over it with you.
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John Solomon this hour.
We have a new piece out that I thought was worth going over again.
I know most in this audience know the story well, but the American conservative has written up A lengthy profile piece specific to the state of Wisconsin called The Wisconsin Purchase, How Mark Zuckerberg's Millions in the Center for Technology and Civic Life Turned Wisconsin Blue in 2020.
But it's not just Wisconsin.
It's my home state of Pennsylvania, where we, you know, do the morning show on Philadelphia's AM 99 to the Answer.
Still very, very much an issue.
The mail-in vote is still obviously something Democrats want to achieve and they want to federalize.
They're actively fighting to get that done in the Senate right now as we speak.
And so we're going to get into that with our friend John Solomon just around the corner.
Love to hear from you on that as the show unfolds.
But I wanted to start this hour talking with you very specifically about some of the things that we know we now don't know.
I remember Rumsfeld once said that 9-11 was a failure of our imagination, but he said there are known knowns and then there are known unknowns.
And what I wish people in public life were more honest about is what we still don't know, the known unknowns.
Rather than pretending they know about this virus and how to, quote, defeat it, turns out they don't, and they never really did.
And their arrogance has now made jackasses of most of them, quite candidly.
You know, there's this woman on Twitter, for instance, and I don't mean to pick on her other than she popped up in my Twitter feed, not because I follow her, someone that I do follow retweeted her.
And her name is Dr. Haley Bannack, B-A-N-N-A-C-K.
She is on Twitter as a research assistant professor in epidemiology at the University of Buffalo.
I don't mean to pick on this woman necessarily, but she did make this a public statement.
She seems to be someone with a background, obviously, in this.
This typifies what I'm talking about.
This kind of heightened arrogance, this presumptuousness, this ego-driven I tested positive for COVID on Sunday.
has been for so many in our midst over the last couple of years, even people in science and medicine that should know better.
And here's what she says.
Quote, I tested positive for COVID on Sunday.
As an ultra cautious, triple vaccinated, always masker, I was shocked and very afraid.
Alright, so this is a thread, so stay with me here.
I tested positive for COVID on Sunday as an ultra-cautious, triple-vaccinated, always-masker.
I was shocked and very afraid.
Now, that just lets you know, right off the top, that Dr. Haley Banach, or Banach, or however you say this woman's name, is...
Judging you, if you're not those things, if you're not ultra-cautious, if you're not triple-vaxxed, you know, if you haven't had the two shots and the booster, if you don't always wear a mask, she already thinks she's superior to you because she does those things and you don't.
And yet, she got COVID.
And so now she has to admit some things, and it's painful for her, you can tell.
To my surprise, I felt ashamed and embarrassed.
How could I have let this happen?
How could I have put my family at risk?
Because you see, she's better than you.
She's smarter than you.
She's ultra-cautious.
She's triple vaccinated.
She always wears a mask, and yet she still got sick.
How could it happen to me?
I'm a doctor of epidemiology at the University of Buffalo.
I'm smarter and better than all the troglodytes who haven't had all their shots and don't wear their mask.
I'm better!
See, they tell themselves this, and they show it, you see.
They show how much smarter and better they are because they wear that mask on their face, and that shows that they're deeply cautious and serious while you recklessly run about without yours.
She continues, Objectively speaking, I understand that COVID is highly contagious, and I did everything in my power to avoid this and keep my loved ones safe.
However, if you're feeling any of the same emotions I am, just know that you're not alone.
If you're feeling any of the same emotions this woman is, you're mentally ill.
I'll be the one to say it.
You're mentally ill.
First of all, it's rooted in your total arrogance.
How can you be so arrogant about a virus?
How can you possibly walk about your life thinking you can arrogantly evade a virus by just doing the right things and behaving?
I'll tell you how.
Because of this groupthink mentality led by people like Dr. Fauci and a lot of the Biden administration.
Obey, obey, obey.
Do these things and obey, show your allegiance, and do the right thing, and you'll be rewarded by somehow the virus will tip its hat to you and say, oh, I'll stay away from her or him.
They do the right thing.
They're displaying how obedient they are.
Now, virus gonna virus, folks, and everybody's catching it, and everybody's getting sick, and it's spreading like wildfire again, but the good news is, the very good news, this Omicron strain, It's not that big a deal.
It's like a mild cold, and as much as we're in the middle of a spike right now, in a week or so, you're going to see that that trend is going to go right back down, just as we already saw it happen in South Africa.
I talked about this before my own vacation, on my morning show.
This South African doctor, this Kotesi woman, I believe that's how you say her name, she's the one that discovered Omicron.
And she said at the time, yes, I just want you to know this is a new strain.
No, I don't want anybody to panic because it appears to be a mild cold and it's already gone.
It's already gone as a thing in South Africa.
It's not even a thing.
So as fast as it came, it went away.
And here's the other thing about South Africa.
Seventy percent of their population isn't vaccinated.
They haven't had a shot.
Not a single one.
Seventy percent.
Let me say it again.
70% of South Africa's population has not had the shot, and about 70% of South Africa contracted Omicron over the last month, and it's already out of there.
Not for nothing.
I'm not going to get into this.
I'm not an epidemiologist, but I've interviewed more than my share throughout the course of the last couple of years of this pandemic, and one of the things that a couple of them have said, and you've no doubt heard, is one, this shot that's been developed, no matter what you think of it, whether you think it's great or whether you've had it, and I don't mean to make anybody feel badly about having had it, okay?
I want to be very, very clear with you.
If you did it, I think a lot of people ran out and got those initial Pfizer and Moderna and J&J shots because they thought, I'm going to go out and protect myself and I'm going to help stop the spread.
People did feel like, okay, we're all in this together.
We're going to go out and do our thing and get the shot.
Now some of you didn't, but I've never been one of these people that believes he's in the business of telling you what you ought to do with yourself or your person or the shot.
If you want to go get it, go get it.
You don't?
Fine, don't.
Mandating, of course, I object to it.
And I think anybody that insists you do it, or show paperwork and prove that you've had it, they're tyrants.
And I have no time for people like these.
But even so, people like those should be exposed to the jackasses that they are, like this doctor, who arrogantly run around thinking that that's been the answer.
It's not the answer.
It's not stopping anybody from getting sick.
And in fact, this Omicron variant, as the Moderna people, as the Pfizer people, as Dr. Fauci himself have all admitted, It does nothing to stop Omicron.
It's powerless against the new variant.
And as I was about to say, some of the epidemiologists and virologists that I've interviewed have now confirmed that it is their belief through study that this vaccine that we all took in mass that first year has actually created these new variants.
Operation Warp Speed, unfortunately, some believe, created Operation Warp Speed in the development of new variants.
And when viruses... This is why we get a flu shot annually, folks.
I know you understand this.
And it's why it's called a flu shot, not a flu vaccine.
This wasn't a vaccine, ladies and gentlemen.
It was a shot, and maybe it keeps you from getting very sick.
I don't know, but it sure as hell doesn't keep you from spreading it.
Or catching it.
Neither do masks.
We gotta learn to live with this thing, just like we gotta learn to live with the flu and colds, which is basically what it is.
And on that note, incidentally, all of a sudden, We're learning the flu is back, but did it ever really go away?
Well, testing is a big question, too.
We'll get into more of this coming up.
John Solomon on the way.
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This is the deadline.
Brett Kavanaugh, who is the Justice of the Supreme Court, who is technically overseeing this Sixth Circuit, overturning the Fifth Circuit's day of the Biden mandates.
Today's the day the Biden administration is supposed to have their materials in to Brett Kavanaugh.
We know the Supreme Court in full will take up the issue of the shot mandate for employers of 100 or more coming up in this new year.
And the Job Creators Network has been fighting this front for small business owners coast to coast.
They're taking the fight to the court.
You know this assault on small business with the Biden administration.
Global companies don't have a problem with the mandate.
So hundreds of workers, maybe thousands of workers losing their jobs.
This is a maybe not a big deal to the big conglomerates, but to a small business, it's a disaster.
It's the difference between thriving and surviving.
And so Job Creators Network, When they heard about the Sixth Circuit overturning the Fifth Circuit, they jumped into action.
JobCreators Network joining forces with small business advocates across the country to lobby the Supreme Court to save small businesses and their employees from this government overreach.
Small business owners can't afford this appellate work on their own.
And so it's why JobCreators Network is on the case, helping take the legal fight to the nation's highest court.
And if you'd like to help or get more information on this, small business owners and this illegal mandate, fight it once and for all, go to BlockTheMandate.com.
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Let's bring in John Solomon, who on this front, and all fronts, is one of the smartest, greatest journalists in my mind.
For my money, there is.
Justthenews.com, at JSolomonReports on Twitter.
Happy New Year to you, John.
Welcome in.
You as well.
Good to join you today.
So I'm just talking a little about Job Creators Network and this Kavanaugh deadline today.
How do you read the tea leaves on this thing?
Where's it going?
Well, listen, first off, I've been in this town 30 years, and when I came to this town, there was only one small business lobbied.
It's called NFIB, the National Federation of Independent Businesses, and they have gone silent in the last five, ten years.
You don't see them here.
And Job Creators Network has become one of the most forceful voices in all of corporate America, but particularly for Main Street America in small business.
So, over the course of this year, they've done a lot of big things, right?
They've sued Major League Baseball to call attention to the economic losses from moving the All-Star game from Atlanta to Denver.
They got involved in some of these mandates, and now with this particular mandate, the private business mandate, they've gotten to the Supreme Court with one of the, I think, big challenges, and I think it's going to be challenging.
Is there in federal law the capability for government on its own executive branch to impose upon business the requirement they get their employees vaccinated?
A lot of people that I've talked to, legal experts, both on the left and right, think this is a dubious power that Biden has assumed.
And so I think this court's going to look.
It's a 6-3.
Conservative core, particularly when you look at economic and economic freedom issues.
Robert says to be more consistent with the, the other five conservative justices six, three pro, you know, anti regulatory coalition.
I think.
Probably, the court is going to come down and say that this is unconstitutional and it can't be done.
But we'll have to wait and see.
This is going to be one of the first big tests of big government's power under the Biden administration.
But a lot of the experts I'm talking to expect the court to either be 6-3-5-4, saying that this doesn't exist in law, the power to do this doesn't exist in law, and only Congress can bestow that power to the executive branch.
You always pucker when you're talking about John Roberts because he is the guy after all that twisted himself into a pretzel to call Obamacare a tax, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, listen, he's an interesting guy.
He's also the most popular among 11 figures that Gallup just polled in Washington.
So the American public seems to like him.
He's got a 60% approval rating, which is 20 points higher than Joe Biden or Kamala Harris and others.
But he has been a swing vote, unlike what people expected of him.
And so like on Obamacare, on some of the earlier mandates, he has been for some of the COVID mandates when some of his conservative brethren have looked less favorably upon them.
I'd watch for Roberts.
I'd also watch for Amy Coney Barrett and see where she comes down in this.
This will be one of her big cases.
She's been on the court a little over a year now, and I think watching her perform on this will be another one that a lot of people are reading the tea leaves for, but a very important decision that will define the powers of the federal government in the future for the pandemic.
And it comes on the heels of President Biden kind of undercutting his own executive order.
Because what did he say on Monday?
There is no federal solution.
So if the President believes there's no federal solution, why did he impose this requirement on small business?
It's going to be very interesting to see if that makes its way into the case, the President's comments from Monday.
Well, that's such a great point, and John Solomon, I wonder if, in fact, that's what the court ultimately takes in under advisement, is the fact that he said something like that.
Also, that if this were the emergency he claims it to be, why would you have ever moved it?
Why have the arbitrary deadline of, you know, after the new year in January?
Why not do it right away?
It doesn't really imply emergency if you've been lobbied to move the date, right?
It does.
I mean, listen, there's a lot of other questions that come in.
The efficacy of the vaccine, are the vaccines, can you actually impose vaccines, some of which are still in the emergency order state.
There's a lot of different issues that are going to play into this ruling.
It'd be very interesting to see where the justices ask questions, what they're going to pick at.
This really comes down to how big a government in Washington are we going to have going forward.
This is more than just a pandemic powers definition.
This is really about how much power can the president usurp and impose upon the free market.
And it's going to be very interesting to see where it ends up.
Do you have a sense, John, I know you're not a pollster, and I've got so much more to ask you, but do you have a sense of where the public is generally with this?
When Fauci says things like, masks forever on planes, and you know, maybe you should avoid Christmas and New Year's with your family.
After two years, I get the sense the public en masse is a little tired of hearing from that guy.
You are spot on, and it's funny, I'm writing a story for tomorrow at Just the News on this very topic, because my good friend Scott Rasmussen, the great pollster, just did a poll on the gap between what President Biden and the Biden administration in Washington and Fauci want, and what Americans want.
And these are some fascinating numbers.
It's going to be on our site tomorrow morning, but we'll give your listeners an early listen.
Only 27 percent of voters believe the worst of the pandemic is behind us.
That is a 29 point drop from the spring.
And remember, in between those two points, Joe Biden declared victory over the virus only to be proven wrong.
Americans are expecting that this is going to linger on and perhaps the worst is still ahead.
Despite that, despite that, only 28 percent of voters want stricter lockdowns, 53 percent.
53% believe it's okay to go maskless now, particularly if you're immunized.
And 74% say they just want to go back to resuming life as normal.
We'll have to learn to live with the virus.
A very strong sentiment that we've been locked down for two years.
It hasn't really made much of a difference.
For God's sake, let's get back to normal.
And I think that these polling data is a really strong data, very strong pointers.
That's fascinating.
So people believe the worst is still to come, but they want to get back to living normally.
Yeah, it's an amazing thing.
And I think the reason is they have come to conclude that all these solutions that came out of Washington that sounded great, we're going to flatten the curve, wear a mask, you'll save your neighbor, get a vaccine shot, then two, then three, maybe four now, that they haven't worked.
And at some point they realized, you know what?
I'm going to manage my own risk.
I let the government manage my risk for two years and you don't see that.
And I think I mean, I talked to Congressman Byron Donalds about this just about a week ago as his polling data was coming together, and he said something very profound.
He said he is sensing among the electorate that the big science faces, you know, the Fauci, the CDC, the FDA, who've been all over the map, that they're now being viewed not as scientists but as politicians.
Wow.
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We'll start there, but broaden it out.
John, in terms of election reform, I don't know what voters are saying.
I hear from a lot of callers who aren't convinced anything's been fixed by way of elections in Pennsylvania.
And I read this piece at the American Conservative called the Wisconsin Purchase, how Mark Zuckerberg's millions and the Center for Tech and Civic Life turned Wisconsin blue.
This was the same thing that happened in Pennsylvania.
Have these issues been tackled broadly, John, in your opinion?
In some states they have, right?
In Georgia and Arizona, it is now illegal for someone like Mark Zuckerberg to come in and give money to the election judges.
But there are many states where that is not the case.
In Wisconsin, the legislature tried to ban it, and the Democratic Governor, Governor Evers, vetoed it.
And so there are things that are known That aren't fixed in many states.
And I think there's two big dynamics to watch in 2022.
First is, will Joe Biden and the Democrats get a federalized version of voting rules imposed on America?
That's going to come down to Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, who have been reluctant to go there.
But the dynamic is still in play.
If there's a federalization of elections, that's going to have a very profound effect.
It's probably also going to lead to a constitutional challenge because most Republicans and conservatives believe strongly it's the role of state legislators and not the Congress to set these rules.
But I think the second dynamic is there are things that have not yet really been fully investigated or appreciated.
I'm going to point you at one topic where my reporting over the last six months or so is starting to really turn up some really strong evidence of this.
There is a tactic called, when people gather ballots from other people, it's called harvesting.
In the majority of states in America, it is illegal to go and get someone else's ballot and deliver for them unless they're an immediate relative.
So in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, I think the Pennsylvania governor recently had to admit his wife illegally delivered his vote, which was essentially a harvesting violation.
There are signs in several states that I'm looking at Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
Uh, Arizona, that there may have been harvesting operations going on that didn't get detected, that the Republicans haven't talked about, that legislators haven't looked at.
Issues like that I think are still going to come up in 2022, along with the checklist of things that people know there are problems, like the Zuckerberg money.
They want to get rid of it, but in states where there's a Democratic governor and a Republican legislature, they haven't found agreement.
I think those are the dynamics they're going to carry into 2022, but we're far from having addressed all the issues in 2020.
So when you look at statewide elections in states, you know, like Pennsylvania, like mine, where you're talking about a gubernatorial race and a United States Senate race, and you got a lot of Pennsylvanians that think the problems of 2020 haven't been fixed.
Do you think that's a justified concern?
Clearly, the polls show almost a majority or near majority, depending on the poll, of Americans believe that there are election integrity issues that aren't fixed that still allow them to distrust future elections, and that is something, you know, the heart of America is our confidence in the voting system.
It's something we should address for all Americans.
The problem is that each party digs down into their pecuniary interests of how they expect to get elected in the next election, and nobody's listening to the American voter that closely.
This is an issue that's not going to go away, and if Democrats just try to pretend it's going away, they're not going to win.
If Republicans Don't pay attention, particularly to people like Stacey Abrams, who's built an enormous $90 million organization.
They do so at their own risk.
There needs to be a larger reckoning.
I think we had a few moments, like in Georgia last year, where there was some serious attention and then it disappeared.
And I think that we need to keep the attention there until all these issues are there, so that whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or Independent, you feel like your vote is going to be counted when you come to the polls next year or when you put your absentee ballot in the mail.
John, I'll ask you to close with either the biggest story or moment of this year, or one you want to predict for the coming year.
Is there one particular thing you'd say, this was it for 2021, or here's what's coming and you should keep watching for 2022?
Either one.
One of the things I'd watch for is whether Joe Biden does what I call the Bill Clinton pivot of 1994-1995, where Bill Clinton started off with a lot of energy, particularly with Hillary Clinton and her health care task force.
They leaned real strongly left, and then Bill Clinton triangulated, moved to the center, left the left of his party hanging out there.
And tried to self-correct high-falling or fast-falling polling numbers.
Joe Biden, through the most of his career, has been more of a moderate.
He's trapped in a far-left party.
I would watch for that dynamic in 2022.
Does he pivot to the center?
The first sign of that came this week when he said there's not a federal solution anymore to COVID.
I think that was a big change in the tone of Joe Biden and his philosophy in Washington.
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Let's head back to the phones.
In fact, let's go to Valley Forge, Pennsylvania and talk to Kate.
Kate, welcome to America First!
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I was disappointed this morning, and look at the bonus I get this afternoon, Chris.
Love to hear you on the radio.
Thank you, Kate.
Nah, thank you.
Listen, I want to talk about 2022 and 2024, and it really dovetails with so much of what you've talked about.
There's the what.
There's so much stuff that's been screwed up that we've been lied about, lied to, you know, things that haven't been committed.
But what I want to talk about is how is the Republican Party going to communicate to the people of America?
Because I think we've done a horrendous job, especially even in the second half of Trump's.
It's like, you know, there was nothing on the TV.
And I think we've got to get to the media, all kinds of it, social media, but the TV, the radio, everything.
Thank you for your communication.
But I think there's two things we have to have is, number one, we have to find an outlet and a communication manager.
manager that's going to have the guts to do this.
And what I'm talking about is no Marcus of Queensberry rules, no Mitt Romney.
I'm a polite kind of a guy.
I'm talking about a blitz, constant messages, bare knuckles, call incompetence, senility, dishonesty, what it is and keep it coming.
And number two is, you know, you've talked about that epidemiologist before.
Yes.
The one who's arrogant, better than thou, and all of that?
I think one of our challenges, but it could be right for picking because I think they're wobbling, is how do you tell somebody like that, that part of voters, to say, you've been had, you've been naive, dumb, you've been fooled, wake up, you know, it has to be done so that you're not insulting them.
But I think there's a lot of people out there who are doing this, and they're feeling like, wait a minute, my kid's going to be home again?
Wait a minute, I still got this and the COVID's there?
So I think we need the right person in communications to manage this absolute blitzkrieg, bare knuckles, call a spade a spade, tell them what's been done to them, and also have a message in mind for people who are part of the faithful to that message, and tell them, no fault of yours, you've been had.
So important.
And I couldn't agree with you more, Kate.
Meaning somebody that can look people in the eye and say, listen, you were told if you behave and do all of these things that were really detrimental to your kids, your jobs, your way of life, if you did these things, we'd get a handle on COVID and it didn't work.
It didn't happen.
You obeyed and they didn't deliver.
Right?
Tell that story.
Look people in the face and remind them of that.
That's critical for Republicans is your point.
That's exactly right.
Tell it what it is, and you know, Trump had a sense of humor about a lot of things.
I'm saying that's an important part of it too, but also the things that you never get talked about, like you're always talking about the monoclonal antibodies.
I live in Pennsylvania too, in Chester County.
If I needed them, I'm 70 and was just diagnosed with cancer, a treatable kind, but I should be worried about stuff like this.
And I'm hearing now it's out of stock.
Nobody can get them, nobody has been able to get them, but suddenly now we're out of stock.
You know, there's solutions, there's alternatives.
Somebody better have a clear message that says, look, nobody has all the answers, but this is like the flu for example.
We're going to get it.
Here's the way to ameliorate it, to get through it, and to prevent it as much as they can.
But we're all going to get it.
Look at this one.
So here's where we go and do the same thing to the one third of Pennsylvania's small businesses that are out of business, gone forever.
And now they're getting taxed if they're trying to get back into business.
Health, COVID, economy, the Constitution, you know, have simple messages that talk to people with respect, but without the political guile.
Brilliantly said, Kate.
I'm glad you're well on your way to being well.
Happy New Year to you.
Merry Christmas.
Can't wait to talk to you in the new year.
That's Kate from Valley Forge, Pennsylvania.
She's right.
We're in the midterm zone right now.
I was just reading before the show today Democrats' message for 2022.
Don't let the radical right win and install Donald Trump as Speaker of the House.
They're running against Trump again.
Is that what the Democrat message is going to be for the midterms?
Trump still?
So Trump's candidacy is going to be their play?
Trump?
Are they going to try to hang on to a non-pandemic?
Kate is exactly right.
Whatever Democrats do, Republicans need to use ready-made messaging, ads from all of the 2021 disasters.
And you could go down the list.
Kate is exactly right.
Look at this year.
Look at the disaster.
Look at the open border.
Look at Afghanistan.
Look at the crime.
The Rittenhouse trial and their behavior, the things they said, the way you've been treated about masking your kids in school.
Inflation, gas prices, unmitigated ruin and disaster.
Can Republicans talk?
This is not the time.
Kate is exactly right.
It is not the time for gentle ladies and gentle men.
It's not time for Thurston and Lovey Howell.
I call them the Cologne and Cufflink Republicans.
I don't want them.
They're not welcome.
I don't need them.
Now is not the time.
These people want to federalize our elections.
They want Washington, D.C.
to run our elections and forever ensure that our elections will be run like 2020.
Will Republicans talk candidly, bluntly, honestly about this?
They damn sure better.
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Say, Brent, I'm glad you called.
My name's Chris.
In for Dr. Gorka today.
Hi.
Hi.
A very happy New Year, Chris.
And to you, sir.
Thank you.
Yes, excellent show.
And I love your classic radio show observations concerning the great Gorka.
And I agree.
And so took it upon myself to write a new promo for him built on the radio classic, The Shadow.
And it goes, who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
The great Gorka do.
I know he would love that.
In fact, I have every reason to believe that in the new year, he may well end up doing a podcast-only special.
I don't want to take credit.
I don't mean to tell anybody how to do their business.
But if you want just a surefire way to get some downloads, that's what we ought to do.
Classic Seb Radio, don't you think, Brent?
Absolutely.
He is so wonderful, and he does create pictures and images, which we've lost.
You know, with video.
It's true.
He loves it.
And he, I, uh, by the way, I did get confirmation.
He had never done radio prior to hosting America first.
And when he, when he got this gig, he'd never done it before, which is amazing because you can tell, as I said, he loves the medium because he naturally took to it like a fish in water.
He, he digs it and he studies it, which is why he's good at it.
That's the difference between guys like him and other people you take off TV that are no good at it.
You know the difference, right?
Yeah, well, many people work very hard to be authentic.
He doesn't have to work at it.
He is.
That's right.
That's right.
So well said.
Happy New Year.
Thanks for listening.
I appreciate you.
I know he does too.
All right, stay in touch.
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I do a daily podcast as well.
I've got the morning show there in Philadelphia.
And I hope we can stay in touch beyond today.
Hey, Alan, over there.
Let's go back to my home state of Pennsylvania and talk to Alan.
Glad you called, Alan.
Welcome in to America First.
Hey, Chris.
Happy New Year.
And to you, sir.
You were talking earlier about all the things that had gone wrong in the election, whether the mail-in voting, including dead people voting.
This may be the first time that dead people have actually gotten their candidate to win them.
You mean they identify with him?
They see themselves in him.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, it used to be that they would say that, you know, as long as my candidate has a pulse, he'll be able to run against them.
And even this time, they found one without a pulse.
Alan, good to hear from you, my man.
Happy New Year.
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You've heard it before, there are known unknowns and unknown unknowns.
And then, there's Chris de Gaulle.
Philadelphia's AM 990, the answer, and we're delighted to have him with us today.
Aw, thanks, Sev.
Thank you.
Definitely unknown.
That is, I'm an unknown for sure, but to a lot of you, but to those of you at least in the Philadelphia market, at least, I hope you know the show.
And if you're listening to the The program today, as I know you do on your drive home with Dr. Gorka, I do the morning show in Philadelphia.
My name is Chris Stegall, and thrilled to be with you today, thrilled to get the invitation.
Thank you, Dr. G. Telephone number, you know it.
It remains the same.
I'd love to hear from you at 833-33-GORKA.
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Gosh, I could do easily, I could have spent the entirety of this show today talking about this issue because it's one that just burns me to no end.
It's the outright misinformation surrounding COVID that just drives me crazy.
You know, we're accused, all of us on Talk Radio are accused, you know, people on Fox are accused, social media conservatives are accused of misinformation as it relates to COVID.
And in fact, a lot of us have been shadow banned and kicked off social media platforms simply for asking questions.
I mean, you know how Joe Rogan has been treated.
My gosh, even beloved NFL quarterbacks like Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers of the Green Bay Packers.
Now, whether you're a football fan or not, or whether you hate the NFL, the fact of the matter is Aaron Rodgers is a guy who didn't want to take the shot.
And there are a number of other professional athletes, as you know, who didn't want to take the shot.
How stupid do these leagues look now that a lot of these men, like Kyrie Irving,
Who didn't want to take the shot are now being asked could you step in when we travel on the road when we're not in New York because we can't allow you to play while you're in New York without having proof of the shot, but when we travel because we've been Testing guys out and they can't play because they're testing positive and they've all had the shot like good little soldiers Well now they can't play so we need help with our roster So I know you didn't want to take it and we told you you can't play Do you mind if you come back and play?
Similarly with Aaron Rodgers.
Okay, he tests positive for COVID and then they badger him and badger him and badger him.
Did you get the shot?
Did you get the shot?
And no, it turns out he didn't.
And then there was this big to-do about, he lied, he lied to us, he made us think he got the shot.
How stupid must these cultists about the shot feel now that we've learned that no matter, and I'm not, I don't mean to pick on you if you're somebody that in good faith ran out and you got the shot.
I really don't.
I think most people, as I've said previously, most people did it with good intentions.
But I think we now understand that whether you've had the shot or you haven't, and whether you got two shots and then a booster or not, or two shots and no booster, or one shot not two and no booster, like whatever machination you want to come up with, and Fauci promising that there'll probably be a fourth shot, it's just that.
It's a shot.
It's why I'm very purposely not using the word vaccine.
It is the furthest thing from a vaccine.
It's a dishonest... You want to talk about dishonesty and misinformation?
To call this a vaccine is dishonest and misinformation.
It most certainly is not.
Now, if you want to say it makes you a little less sick when you catch it, fine.
That makes it a shot, like the flu shot, and you get one every year.
And if that's what you want to do, by all means, please do it.
But let's start being honest about what this is and what it isn't.
That's what Aaron Rodgers is calling for out there.
Let's listen to a couple of cuts of the Green Bay Packers quarterback.
He went on the Pat McAfee Show again.
This is where he originally went to kind of air his grievances and talk about this for the first time when he was Railroaded for being this dishonest scoundrel because he didn't want to take a medicine, which is just crazy.
Again, whatever you think about Rogers, the NFL, football in general, should we be treating our fellow Americans this way?
They don't want to take a medicine.
And so we badger and berate them and make them out, you know, Terry Bradshaw, that dummy, that total doofus saying, oh, what a, what a scoundrel, what a dishonest, it's a terrible thing to lie to.
Who the hell's business is it of anyone's?
Whether Aaron Rodgers wants to take a medicine or not, no matter your emotional investment in the man.
But anyway, he went on the Pat McAfee show and talked about this idea of spreading misinformation.
Let's take a listen.
I've gotten accused of spreading misinformation when I talk about the treatment plan that I used to get better that's been used by a number of people and doctors.
If you watched Dr. McCullough and Rogan, he's a cardiologist, epidemiologist, he goes at length to talk about, and he's double backs, he talks about the treatment plans that he used with people.
I think one of my issues, and I've brought this up many times, is one, they don't talk about the fact that You know, guys are getting better using this.
People are getting better using these things.
That's fine.
You don't want to talk about that.
I do know, behind the scenes, this is 100% true.
There are many teams who are using or recommending a lot of the same treatments that I got for their players.
Dr. Joe Rogan?
There's treatments being talked about behind closed doors.
That's exactly right.
The treatments they're not talking about in public or they're dismissing and rolling their eyes in public.
In private, that's what they're giving.
And I would just take a moment to say, while I have the opportunity and thrilled to be here behind Dr. Gorka's Nationally syndicated microphone, I will just tell you that if you have the ability and you get COVID, you should at once immediately reach out and try to acquire monoclonal antibody treatment.
Now, I'm not saying it's right for everyone.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't pretend to be a doctor, but I will tell you that my wife and I Both came down with COVID.
We have not had the shots.
We both got COVID in October.
And we got pretty sick.
I mean, not hospitalized sick.
I'm not saying we were, you know, one foot in the grave sick.
But for me, as a guy who can muscle through being sick and go to work and get things done, it was bad.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it.
COVID's a thing.
It's real.
I'm not disputing it's real.
And yes, it can make you sick.
And it made my wife and I quite sick.
That said, thankfully, I knew about monoclonal antibody treatments.
I reached out.
I got some.
My wife got some.
You don't have to be a special person to get it.
You shouldn't have to be a special person to get it.
I realized, depending upon where you're listening to me, in various states, various municipalities, it's easier or harder to get depending on where you live.
But everyone should know about it, and it should be readily accessible.
Now, I know there are a lot of you out there shouting about everything from hydroxychloroquine to ivermectin and other things.
I don't know about those things personally, but I've heard many, many people say that they work well for them.
I don't know.
All I'm saying is, and even if you don't believe in ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, monoclonal antibodies, now we know.
Merck and Pfizer have come up with pharmaceuticals.
So there are now COVID pills that you can take as therapeutics.
The point is, there are readily available therapeutics that work.
You know what doesn't work?
These shots.
Now maybe they keep some people from getting very sick.
I don't know.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't.
If that's what you feel, if you're an older person, immunocompromised person, you're battling with something and you think maybe it's best I take the shot, by all means, please do.
But what is 100% certain and true is these cloth masks that we've all been forced to wear on airplanes and in airports, that's a charade.
The vaccine is not a vaccine at all.
It's a shot, and at best, I'm going to give it the credit for being a therapeutic, keeping you from getting severely ill if you get it.
And there are readily available therapeutics right now that every doctor within earshot of my voice all across the country knows full well you have access to if he or she wants to give it to you.
And any doctor worth his or her salt not willing to prescribe you or give you access to therapeutics is engaged in malpractice.
Pushing this shot as the remedy for COVID is a lie.
That's the misinformation.
And good for Aaron Rodgers for continuing to stand up and say so.
And he's got a hell of a platform and a winning record, incidentally.
So despite, I know he's now become the black hat of the professional athletics world when it comes to the Dr. Fauci's out there, because he's daring to stand up and say there's another way besides injecting yourself with the shot.
There's this problem that he's an outstanding athlete.
Who has a winning record and they can't really shut him up.
A little more from Aaron Rodgers on the Pat McAfee Show.
Take a listen.
And if you don't agree with the ones I used, well let's come up with some other ones.
You know, instead of like sticking a person, you know, putting ten days in isolation, you know, and not able to see anybody and zero treatment options, to me that's just... If science can't be questioned, it's not science anymore, it's propaganda.
He's exactly right.
If science can't be questioned anymore, it's not science, it's propaganda.
So brilliantly said.
Speaking of which, Dr. Robert Malone, the guy that came up with the mRNA technology, he's now been silenced on Twitter.
I'll tell you more about that coming up.
We have Colonel Kurt Schlichter just around the corner too.
My telephone number, 833-33-GORKA, 833-33-GORKA.
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you.
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Hello, Colonel K. Are you there?
Colonel!
Yeah, let me get my jacket on.
No worries.
I'm in a sweatshirt.
How do I look?
You look like an L.A.
trial attorney is what you look like.
Sexy, powerful, potent, ready to satisfy.
Do you want to be a bit centered or have books behind you?
Okay, that's horrible.
Hold on.
Let's do this.
There we go.
Look at that.
Book placement and everything.
Hey, Playa.
How you doing, brother?
Hey, I did three hours with Mike Gallagher this morning.
Did you?
Sounds hot.
How is... I haven't heard.
Is he still ill?
Uh, I don't know.
I don't know why he wasn't there.
I was there.
I know last week he had been battling the COVID, from what I'm told.
Is that Bitey?
This is Bitey!
Aww!
Should I have Bitey on with me during the show?
I hope you will.
Does he reference Rumble?
I don't know how to tell people to watch this, is that right?
Rumble.com slash Seb Gorka.
And of course we're on Facebook as well.
I'm Erica First with Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Oh my gosh, look how cute this dog is.
Everybody on the video stream is enjoying it, yeah.
Oh my gosh, I'll totally do the show with the dog if you want.
I know I'll get a text from Phil Boyce, but that's okay.
Why'd you have a dog on?
It's more popular than anybody, Phil!
I love the dogs, man!
Seth always posts videos of his dogs occasionally.
It works for Dana Perino.
Oh, yeah, Jasper.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, well, he's dead.
Right, yeah.
That would be very weird if you were holding Jasper.
Oh, boy.
All right, we've got 30 seconds till we come in here.
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My name is Chris Stegall, in for Seb today.
And as we wrap up this year of 2021 and head into 2022, when I was thinking, who would I love to join me as I guest host Dr. Gorka's show, there's only one man.
To wrap up one year and head into a new year, one of the most potent voices In all of radio, I'm told he was just filling in on our colleague Mike Gallagher's show earlier today, author of many, many, many bestsellers, my colleague at townhall.com.
He's Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
And by the way, you can watch him right now.
Holding his adorable dog Bitey, and he's even in a jacket.
I've never seen him wear a blazer before, so you know it's serious.
You can watch this at Rumble.com slash SebGorker on Facebook.
Colonel!
Ahoy!
Happy New Year!
Ahoy!
I'm trying to get up those video numbers.
If you go on Rumble, you get to see Bitey in all Bitey's glory.
Bitey's now saying, look, I want out of here.
I'm not getting paid.
You know, get out.
He's not a show dog.
Colonel, I have in front of me a story from Fox News, and I thought you would be perfect for this because maybe you have your own additions.
The mainstream media's top 10 missteps of 2021.
It's not a quiz, I'm just curious.
Is there one, as you look back on the year, that you think of all of them was the biggest hoax perpetrated on the American public?
You know, trying to choose among...
Among media failures is trying to find your favorite STD.
I mean, holy cow.
It's a train wreck.
It's a cesspool.
It's a separating boil.
It's the worst thing ever.
Let me tee you up with one.
The media is garbage, Chris.
It's garbage and it's also on fire at the same time.
Let me give you one just as a tee-up.
This is right down your alley.
Ready?
Here we go.
I'm going to set it on the tee.
You knock it out of the park.
The Lincoln Project admits to white supremacist political stunt against Glenn Youngkin.
That's one Fox News has listed.
Well look, with the Lincoln Project, this was literally a step up for the Lincoln Project.
Because earlier they had famously been, you know, exiled from anywhere within 500 feet of a public school.
So when they had these gebo's dressed in their Target khaki and white shirts, pretending to be, I don't know what the hell they were pretending to be.
They look, they kind of remind me of those FBI guys at the march, remember?
With their jorts and their like black socks with sneakers.
Yes.
And I mean, just like, yeah, you look organic.
You're not AstroTurf and there's two S's in it.
You guys, I mean, holy cow.
And it's like, I mean, for the Lincoln Project, literally the Lincoln Project being caught faking white supremacy was an improvement.
This was like to move them up in the world.
This is a good one.
We were just talking about this in a previous segment.
Ivermectin and what they did to Joe Rogan.
Now, again, no matter what you think of the shots, the medicines, the treatments, whatever, what CNN did to Joe Rogan and what he ultimately ended up doing to Sanjay Gupta, that was one of the bigger embarrassments of this year, I think.
Well, here's the thing about CNN and Joe Rogan.
CNN can't do anything to Joe Rogan, okay?
Yep.
Joe Rogan's outtakes get more viewers than CNN does.
Alright?
Here's what Joe Rogan is.
Joe Rogan is the hot blonde cheerleader, right?
Walking down campus.
And CNN is the Dungeons and Dragons playing nerd who's not even good at math.
Okay, she's not gonna date you, Mortimer!
It ain't happenin', Melvin!
I mean, good God, these guys are the point- Look, if all life is high school, and all life is high school, okay?
These guys, you know, these guys are the, uh, uh, they're the dudes who come back, uh, uh, when they're at the community college, you know, and cruise the parking lot in their Camaro to see if there's any action.
Colonel Kurt Schlichter is our guest.
Townhall.com, where you can read him at least thrice weekly.
Author of many, many a book.
Your latest, by the way, Colonel.
I mean, you have many.
Your proudest achievement?
I see several of them over your shoulder there, if you're watching on Rumble.
If you're watching on Rumble, Bitey is pointing out... Which is your favorite movie?
A couple of the novels, the Kelly Turtle series of conservative action novels.
America splits into red and blue.
Antics ensue.
You got guns.
You got liberal bashing.
You've got guns.
I mean, what more could you want?
All right.
Now, there's no weird, you know, suburban lady, you know, erotica, like, you know, Fifty Shades.
There's no weird stuff.
You're not turning over any rocks.
Speaking of guns, how about this story in 2021?
One of the biggest, right?
Has to be the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Straight ahead action, lots of shooting, lots of making fun of liberals.
America split in two.
The hero goes into the blue areas and it, you know, there we go.
It's a lot of fun, man.
I sell a ton of these things.
I know you do.
Speaking of guns, how about this story in 2021?
One of the biggest, right?
Has to be the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Now look, what are the chances that if you're like on the street around a bunch of leftists and you open fire and you hit two convicts and one pedophile out of three shots?
What's that tell you about the leftist guys?
And I'm looking at this thing.
I'm thinking, well, the only possible jury verdict, and of course I'm a lawyer, is that they give this guy a medal.
But the punishment, of course, is the process.
What they're trying to do is to scare us out of using our God-given right to defend ourselves.
You know, the question, Chris, well, what was he doing there with a gun?
The proper answer is, ain't a damn thing he wants to.
He's an American citizen, he doesn't need your permission.
Okay?
He can be wherever he wants.
My question is, what those scumbags were doing at their mostly peaceful protest.
What didn't work was making it racial, did it?
They tried awfully hard.
Some still try to make it.
That was nice.
We've literally come across people who are like, I listened to the media and I thought he went out hunting to shoot black people.
And it's like, no, these These guys were as pasty Miracle Whip based as any Mitt Romney clone.
No one in the story was black, Kurt.
No one in the story was black.
Literally no one!
And I'd be totally insulted.
I'd be like, when you think criminals and pedophiles, you know, is that what liberals think?
And in fact, it is what liberals think.
Because I've never met more racist people than liberals.
They're just appalling.
Speaking of pedophiles, Kurt, I have to break but I want to come back with you because there have been not one but two of them found inside CNN.
Not that we're shocked.
Sit tight.
More with Colonel Kurt Schlichter.
My name is Chris Stigall, in for Dr. Gorka.
This is America First.
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Okay, and the mics are back on on Rumble and Facebook.
Oh good!
How's mom doing, Kurt?
Uh, she's doing a lot better.
She's actually walking around a little bit.
Good.
We got her out of the rehab facility, and those places are horrible.
Everyone's very nice, they tried, but there's no stimulation.
They make it worse, don't they?
I don't think there's any substitute for being at home.
Tomorrow's my dad's birthday, so as soon as we're done here, we're going to go out shopping to get some food to make tomorrow.
and we'll get birthday cake and we'll go over there and spend some time with them.
And they're looking forward to that.
She kept going, "Well, what are you going to do about setting the table?" I was like, "Mom, I was a colonel in the army.
I commanded a cavalry squadron and an infantry battalion at the same time on an operation.
I can handle putting out some knives and forks and plates.
Now which side does the fork go on?
She dodged a bullet.
Basically her colon exploded.
And being, you know, being a first generation Scottish, she was like, I feel slightly bad.
So, and of course me, I switch into, you know, operator mode, you know, operations mode.
I went operator.
I was, you know, I'm, I'm not the scalpel.
I was the sledgehammer.
I was the lead of special forces, but you know, I, I go into operations mode with the surgeon and I go, okay, what's the chance of her living through this?
And he goes, that is for God to tell us, but I am his instructor.
There was no fight with a surgeon.
I was like, oh yeah.
Like I was a surgeon with a lot of doubts going, oh man!
I don't know about this one.
It's like a lawyer going, this is super scary!
The judge guy!
You don't want a modest surgeon or a modest lawyer because they may know something you don't.
You know, it is true.
Like, you like a cock.
You want a cocky doctor.
I want a cocky guy!
Oh, and he did it!
He goes, by all rights, she should be dead.
But, I am an instrument in God's hands.
Wow!
And she shall live.
Because I am the finest surgeon.
I have decreed it.
I was like, player!
Boom!
That's awesome.
I'm so glad she's well, buddy.
All true, by the way.
I'm not making this up.
That's crazy.
These are like conversations I had with this guy.
So do they think they've figured out or they've fixed her?
Is the word true?
Yeah, it was a mess.
But she's, you know, she's like 83, man.
It takes a lot out of you, but she's coming back.
Good.
30 seconds.
There's so many people who have it so much worse.
Yeah.
But we're getting through it.
I appreciate it.
A lot of support and prayers from folks in the conservative community.
20 seconds.
I believe that helped.
Alright.
Alright.
Here we go.
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Well, I've got to tell you, we're back with Colonel Kurt Schlichter, author of the Kelly Turnbull series, You Must Order.
And if you're a reader, you like just a great action-adventure, political thriller, funny, intense read, you've got to read this series.
And Colonel Schlichter is also a thrice-weekly contributor at townhall.com.
Hope you'll check that out too.
A second CNN producer, Colonel Kurt Schlichter, by the way, my name is Chris Stegall and for Dr. Gorka today, a second producer under criminal investigation involving potential juvenile victims.
Fairfax County, Virginia Police Department confirming to Fox News, criminal investigation launched into serious allegations involving potential juvenile victims.
This is the second producer, Colonel, at CNN who's been involved with kids.
Well, look, I mean, you've got these psychos.
And then you've also got Jeffrey Toobin, who doesn't understand how Zoom works.
Or maybe he does.
And you've got allegations against Don Lemon.
I don't know if they're true or not.
They're out there.
So you have the guy who has the least creepy allegations pending against him at CNN is Brian Stelter, who is a potato.
Here's your standard.
Brian Stelter is the pace car for not being a bizarre pervert at CNN.
This is one thing Tucker said, which I agree with in concept.
He said, one of the more normal bad things someone at CNN has done is standing up for his brother in Chris Cuomo, which got him fired.
That's one of the more normal things you can do to get fired at CNN.
You know, I figure he grabbed a handful of somebody's rear end.
That's true, too.
And he had to explain, he was like, he totally got to George Costanza, he was like, was that wrong?
I mean, it's right there, you know.
You know, I felt like Mr. Whipple.
I wanted to squeeze the Charmin, you know.
You and I have had this conversation before.
The last time I was a guest on CNN was the night the Hillary basket of deplorables comment broke, and I was on with Don Lemon.
It was the night she said you could put half the country in a basket of deplorables, and Don Lemon wanted to talk about Trump's taxes.
And I said, Don, she just called half the country deplorable.
Isn't that the story of the night?
I was never invited back on.
That really ticked him off.
But I know you have a better CNN story than me.
December 22nd, 2015, I was a hardcore conservative and I was Trump suspicious.
I was never, never Trump because I kissed a girl, but I was Trump suspicious.
And I would be the conservative they would get on.
I came on a lot and I'm doing Skype from my office and Don Lemon, Uh, comes on and he says, Kurt.
And I'm like, yes.
Bated breath.
He says, Trump has finally done it.
He's gone too far.
I'm like, Oh no, what did he do?
He said, Hillary was schlonged by Obama in the primaries in 2008.
Take it away, Kurt.
And I'm like, you know, something broke in me.
And I said, Don, I don't care.
I mean, you would have to get Stephen Hawking to mathematically quantify how little I care about the use of a mild Yiddish vulgarity when, in fact, you know, you got Hillary Clinton, who is an enabler of all sorts of bizarre perversions, in the Oval Office by her husband.
And I, perhaps I was a little graphic.
I won't do that here on Salem.
Maybe during the break.
And there go the dogs.
The dog's like, it's my four-legged button.
Anyway, I say, and he's like, you can't say that!
So I said it again, and he cuts me off, and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Bitey and Barky love it.
The schlichterholm sounds like a kennel.
All right.
Listen, before I heard the story before they cut me off, my screen goes black and the producer goes, thank you.
Goodbye.
Click.
And I'm like, I'm amazing.
And they'll see me again soon.
So my phone explodes.
I only have one minute left, but I've got to ask you before I let you go.
So we could be three Bulwark wedding nights.
Hey-o!
Give me your 2022 prediction, whatever it is.
Pick whatever the thing is, whether it's election-related or otherwise.
What's your prediction for the coming year?
We're going to mop the floor.
...with the Democrats in 2022.
We're going to destroy them.
We're going to leave them a smoking ruin.
They are going to be as disappointed as a bulwark staffer's wife on his wedding night.
Hey-o!
Ladies and gentlemen, the one and only Colonel Kurt Schlichter!
Happy New Year, brother.
Great to see you.
...first.
My name's Chris Stegall, in for Seb.
Mics are back on.
Sorry about that.
Oh!
Awesome, brother.
Great stuff.
Thank you.
- - Mics are back on, sorry about that.
- Oh! - Awesome, brother, great stuff, thank you. - Now I'll tell you what I said.
I said he used his intern like a humidor.
Oh my god.
And Lenin goes.
It was like one of those double takes.
It's like.
Oh god.
Oh, my.
And he said, you can't say that!
So I literally said it right then again.
That's the proper thing to do.
They're on YouTube for everyone.
I've never been back on CNN.
Fine with me.
It's an hour and a half to get to Hollywood, hour and a half to get back for five minutes being the, you know, backpack when they had conservatives who, you know, I'm going to try not to be graphic.
Too late, not working.
Hey, by the way, they reached out about the event in July for my book.
Really?
Did you know that?
I had heard- They're going to have an event with me in Philadelphia.
Well, I had been lobbying for it, and I knew they said they were going to work on it.
I hadn't heard that they- They reached out to Regner, and Regner said, you want to do it?
I said, hell yeah, I'll be there with bells on.
Literally.
Only bells.
Just those.
We'll go party and make off with it.
I'm really glad to hear that.
Good.
So they move forward.
Awesome.
Oh my gosh.
Now I finally have a reason to live.
Happy New Year, my friend.
Hey, you too, man.
Give me a call sometime.
Let's catch up.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, you're looking good, man!
You look great!
Maybe I look like a hobo who got vomited up by another hobo.
No, I really do.
I've worn this shirt for five days.
By the way, since he saw me, I'm not as fat anymore.
We'll have to reconvene so he doesn't make it mocked.
Oh, you're looking good, man.
You look great.
90 down.
Maybe I look like a hobo who got vomited up by another hobo.
That's not true.
You look dashing, as you always have.
No, I really do.
I've worn this shirt for five days.
Is it one of those...
I got the shakes.
What is it, that guy?
That guy that's on the shark tank that made the shirt that doesn't wrinkle?
That's what that is, isn't it?
You could sleep in it, roll around in it, whatever.
Oh, you mean the Van Heusen shirt?
The one everybody keeps in their trunk when they used to go to the studios?
Because they knew that if they spilled coffee all over their first one, I got one in the trunk, it's in a ball, but it'll be fine in a minute.
Gotta scratch it a little.
One minute.
See you buddy.
Oh my god.
See you, buddy.
One minute.
One minute.
Sansa felt slacks.
See you, buddy.
Adios, pal.
Oh, my God.
Always a riot.
One other thing I can think of that's almost as funny as that CNN story is, remember the time, like, Corey Lewandowski was on, like, MSNBC or something, and they talked about, you know, what about these children being separated at the border or anything?
And he just went womp womp, and one of the other guys just went, how dare you sir, how dare you, in a very effeminate way.
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We will be good to go after that.
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It's the same as it always has been, even though the host is a little different today.
All right, maybe a lot different.
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In fact, let's go to the phones and get George in here in Orange County.
George, I'm glad you called America First.
Welcome in.
Thank you.
I did appreciate hearing John earlier.
It was a very good Discussion.
I called because I had taken a course from MIT regarding the physics of the transmission of the COVID virus.
And a couple of things I did learn.
One was that the vaccine will not work against all variants.
Work some, but not all.
So somebody who's been vaccinated is still susceptible to get a infection from a variant.
The second thing I did learn And this is brought out from Taiwan, basically because they took immediate action, is that the mask does work against all variants if worn properly.
And I see a lot of people wearing a mask, but improperly worn, and therefore they do get infected.
Unfortunately, nothing is 100% proof positive that it will work.
Even doctors who have treated COVID patients have contacted the disease and passed away, which is very sad.
Are you, George, are you a fan of the mask mandate idea?
Fauci says, for instance, we should never fly without masks again.
Well, it depends how long you're going to be in that plane, but you're sharing the same air.
It's filtered, and they do their best to take care of that, because at 30,000 feet, you're not introducing fresh air Yeah.
to the plane.
That was part of the physics course.
We looked at ventilation.
We looked at humidity, the number of people in the room, the size of the room.
So the plane is a fairly confined space.
I would wear a mask regardless.
Yeah.
Well, George, I-- Just to be on the safe side.
Look, I appreciate you listening and that you called.
I'll part with you as a friend on that and beg to differ.
In fact, I've got a story in front of me why health experts recommend retiring cloth masks in the fight against Omicron.
Leanna Nguyen, the abortion queen, Over there at CNN, she was the former... This is the irony of all ironies.
The woman that used to head Planned Parenthood is now the go-to source for medical advice on CNN, Leanna Wynne.
Isn't that ironic?
Like, why would you lean on the voice of a woman like this, who was committed to killing babies, to now talk about keeping people alive?
I just find that kind of ironic.
But anyway, quote, cloth masks are little more than facial decorations.
There's no place for them in light of Omicron, she said.
We need to be wearing at least three-ply surgical masks.
So, you know, this idea of just covering your face for the sake of covering your face, even she has to admit that's not effective.
And as far as the airlines go, you know, these...
I have to tell you, the airline heads who have gone to Congress to testify, they've worked overtime to get the air filtration and air circulation systems upgraded and improved.
They do not want to be in the business.
I can tell you airline attendants, pilots, they don't want anything to do with this business of forcing people to wear masks.
I fear that it will become very similar to, you know, taking off your shoes and your belts at the airport security now, wearing a mask full-time.
I hope I'm wrong.
I don't ever want it to be.
It's miserable.
And again, it's just...
It's silly to me in now 2022 almost, with a full understanding of therapeutics and what this virus is, and people that just catch things as folks do.
We catch viruses and we get sick.
We never did this before.
It's silly to me that we would be covering our faces for good.
But Don in Los Angeles, let me squeeze you in here quick before we go to break, Don.
Glad you called.
Welcome into America First.
I'm Chris.
Hi.
Hi, Chris.
I like the way you say Los Angeles.
Sounds like my old Norwegian grandma, God rest her soul.
It's a Bugs Bunny homage.
He always did that too, didn't he?
Los Angeles!
More people should.
I like it.
You know, I was going to call, but real quick before I get to, it's all related, but when they talk about Aaron Rodgers lying, people need to remember Dr. Fauci lied too, only he's a virtuous liar.
He said, you know, remember about the masks?
Oh, first they weren't effective, then they are effective.
But, oh, I just lied because I didn't want there to be a run on masks.
But it was a virtuous lie.
So let's say Aaron Rodgers, it's a wash.
OK, he's a virtuous lie too.
But real quickly, In the LA Times, there was this terrifying op-ed back on the 5th.
I say that I was going to run it by Dr. Gorka, but I think I'll run it by you.
It's by a former head of the Obama administration's counter-finance and designations for counter-terrorism.
And it says, America, the safe haven for terrorists.
And it goes on to say how, oh, you know, the pesky First and Second Amendments are the big impediments to wiping out domestic terrorism.
He says, oh, of course they must be preserved.
But, it's like, read the whole article, it'll curl your hair.
But this guy was... I will.
I'll read it.
I hate to cut you off, but I'm so glad we got you in there.
Happy New Year, Don.
My name's Chris, in for Seb on American First.
American
First American
Thank you.
Well, this was a blast.
This has just been so much fun.
I am, first of all, so appreciative of the entire team here at Dr. G's show for all their support and help in making this a lot of fun and easy to do.
Thanks, Seb, for the invitation, as always.
Most of all, thanks to you for listening.
This was a lot of fun.
I hope to be back with you soon.
Again, my name is Chris Stegall.
I do mornings on Philadelphia's AM 990, The Answer.
Dr. Gorka's affiliate there.
Daily podcast as well and on social media too.
You can follow all that stuff at chrisstegall.com.
C-H-R-I-S-S-T-I-G-A-L-L.
Love to stay in touch with you.
Send me a note or stay in touch on social media.
Let me know what's cooking in that mind of yours.
As we head into 2022, it's going to be a big, big year in Pennsylvania and across the country.
Interesting story here as we close out for 2022.
It's written over the Federalist by Joe Zanatti.
It's headlined, 13 happenings in 2021 that I never would have believed five years ago.
13 happenings in 2021 I never would have believed.
Five years ago.
And I'll start with number 13.
Losing our lead while traveling to space sure sounds sci-fi.
The United States is losing its lead in science.
Number 12.
Major scientific advances not celebrated.
Number 11.
COVID restrictions continue and some increase.
Initially sold us two weeks to slow the spread.
Now, U.S.
cities like L.A., New York, D.C.
now segregating people from public places to penalize independent assessment of medical risks.
Number, let's see, ten, record debt and inflation.
Number nine, asking athletes for advice.
People turning to athletes and actors more and more for their advice and opinions.
These are, again, a list of things over at the Federalist that I would never have imagined seeing five years ago that I've now seen in 2021.
The president's mental abilities doubted.
President Biden misspeaks regularly to the point many commentators doubt he's really the one running the country.
Boy, and that's a hundred percent true.
Even left-wingers can't really defend Biden, and everybody understands he's running nothing.
I mean, this guy is as empty of an empty suit, an empty vessel, as it gets.
I mean, he regularly reminds us by saying, I'm going to get in trouble!
I shouldn't be out here answering these questions.
They told me I gotta just read this thing and go.
I shouldn't be talking to you.
He says it!
He just outright tells us what he's not supposed to be doing.
Number seven, parents labeled as terrorists.
That's a huge one.
Parents speaking up at school board meetings.
That's going to be, by the way, the reckoning of 2022.
The American parent speaking up at school boards.
That's going to be the Democrats' Waterloo.
But labeled as terrorists by our DOJ.
Number six, widespread censorship.
Number five, massive illegal immigration.
Number four, not prosecuting crime.
Number three, drafting women.
Number two, blocking puberty.
Yeah, and I just add, not acknowledging that there are only two genders.
Which, of course, he really kind of does as number one.
Men as women.
It's a great list over at the Federalist.
13 things I would never have believed five years ago happening in 2021.
Hey, Happy New Year, ladies and gentlemen.
It's been a thrill.
Hope to stay in touch with you.
I'll see you again soon.
In for Dr. Gorka, this is America First.
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