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Dec. 29, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
02:51:30
Morgan Zegers LIVE: Fixing America's youth
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This is America First with Sebastian Gorka, welcoming our very special guest host, the founder of Young Americans Against Socialism, Morgan Zeggers.
Okay.
Oh my gosh.
Hi guys.
Hello everybody.
I know I don't sound like Dr. Gorka.
Okay.
I am filling in for him today.
My name is Morgan Zeggers, and I run a non-profit organization called Young Americans Against Socialism.
So, as you can imagine, that put me in similar paths with Dr. Gorka one day.
And ever since, we've been quite fun friends.
And every time we post pictures together on the internet, people ask what height he is and what height I am.
I'm 5 feet tall.
He's 6'3".
I have a feeling he's going to have some height jokes for me later on.
But to everybody out there, I hope that you'll give me a chance today.
I know I'm not Dr. Gorka, but I have some interesting lessons and some interesting guests, including a congressman and some of the best youth leaders in the conservative movement right now that are leading the way and fighting back against this nasty, nasty culture that my generation is for some reason accepting.
And embracing.
Not just accepting, but full on loving it.
First I want to give you guys a good background and a good lesson on what the heck is going on with my generation.
I'm 25.
I just turned 25 a couple days ago.
I feel a little old saying that but I was told I can't say that by some of the people behind the camera.
But I turned 25 a couple days ago and that means that I am either the last year of Millennials or the first year of Gen Z. Half the time it's one or the other.
You never know these days.
It's always changing.
But that gives me a really unique perspective because I grew up with no phones and then the flip phone came and next thing you know the iPhone came around by the time I'm in middle school and now You can't walk 10 feet without seeing a toddler with an iPad that can't get its face out of that screen.
And so things have changed a lot from the time that I was a kid to now being a young adult and trying to make it in America.
And I'm seeing my generation just go completely awry.
And that's really what set me off onto this path, what got me into politics.
And I want to explain what happened with my generation to everybody out there.
That's either really frustrated because they see what my generation is saying on those viral videos online, they see what we're doing on TikTok, they see what's happening on college campuses, and they see what we're posting on Twitter, which is, I think, a cesspool.
Now, it all goes back for me, this one moment when I was in college.
So, to give you guys some background of why this was such a big moment for me, I'm from upstate New York.
Now, I'm in New York City right now at one of these radio stations for Gorka so that I can guest host this.
And I never go to New York City.
I'm from upstate New York.
There's more cows than people in my county.
I'm a very rural person, I guess you could say, and I can't wait to homestead one day.
A little out there, if you know what I mean.
I can't wait to live off-grid.
But I'm down here in the city, willing to venture into this little land of liberalism and leftism just for this specific show.
And when I was raised in upstate New York, I was raised in a military family.
My dad's a colonel in the military, served at 9-11.
Actually, he drove down here with me.
And he pointed out the places where he was on 9-11 as they were helping to clean everything up and where his military unit was to do that.
And then he also served in Operation Iraqi Freedom.
And so I didn't grow up in a very political family, and a lot of people assume that that's what it was.
A lot of people think, ugh, I messed up, my kid's a liberal now because I didn't raise him in a political family.
But I always want everybody to know, my parents never pushed politics onto me, they pushed gratitude onto me and a love for history.
And that is really why I became a conservative.
So thank you to my mom and dad for doing that to me.
And I hope everybody out there knows that you can make becoming a conservative a very fun process.
We are not heartless.
I think conservatives are actually more compassionate than the other side.
And it's because we care about others, we have high expectations of others, and that is because we love them and care for them and want the best for them.
Coming from upstate New York from that military family, and I mean upstate New York like the Saratoga Battlefield, turning point of the Revolutionary War location.
That's where I grew up.
And so when I go to college, I thought I was kind of continuing that path.
And it's because I wanted to go to veterans.
I wanted to go into veterans advocacy when I graduated.
And so I went into veterans advocacy by getting a degree at American University in Washington, D.C.
It was a degree in communications, law, legal institutions, economics and government.
And, I mean, American University.
What a cool name, right?
You would think that I'm about to go to the most patriotic school in the country, our nation's capital.
How exciting would that be?
But no, that is not what happened at all.
I quickly learned that American University, once I got there, it was actually the most politically active campus in the country, and it was 90% liberal.
So it was a big difference for me than my upstate New York growing up experience, my childhood there, my military family.
I mean, we live on the top of the mountain, and again, there's more cows than people in my county.
So to go to American University was quite the change for me.
And I had all the weird experiences that you can imagine.
I mean, the professors that told me that Republicans and conservatives were only Republican and conservative for two reasons.
We don't like people of other colors.
We only like white people.
We're racist.
And then, of course, there's all the Republicans that are evil down by the South, and that's by the border, and we don't like immigrants.
And so those were the two reasons my professor taught us that we voted a certain way.
How evil is that, to teach an entire classroom of kids?
And then when you think of that in one college campus, but then expand that to how many states and how many college campuses across the country are we seeing that kind of indoctrination?
But that's a whole other story.
So I had a bunch of weird situations like that.
I mean, I remember my orientation day.
I had never heard the words bigot or xenophobe or misogynist before until my first day of college where we had diversity and equity training.
Have you guys heard of that?
And that was, I think, five years ago at this point.
It was years and years ago, and it was just coming on the scene.
And look how fast everything's changed in America, where now people are saying that they can just make up any gender or any pronoun that they want.
But that's where I first learned these words of diversity training and everything that the left is now using to divide us with their cultural Marxism tactics.
And of course, one of the worst stories was when they advocated for a segregated cafe on my campus.
Now I tell you all this so that you understand, like, college is a weird experience for most average Americans these days, but what really set me off and what started my journey into what I do now, I run the non-profit Young Americans Against Socialism, it was the moment I walked into a house off campus that I was moving into my last year.
Uh, it turns out my roommate had a poster that just kept catching my attention as I'm trying to talk with her, trying to get introduced to her, I'm trying to respect her with eye contact, but I keep looking to the over side of the wall and I'm wondering, why is this drawing my attention?
And then I realized, it's because I recognized the men on a poster on her wall.
It was Mao Zedong, Lenin, Stalin, Karl Marx, and Fidel.
Castro.
The poster said, welcome to the party.
And these mass murderers and dictators that were on my roommate's wall had these party hats on and they had these fruity little cocktail umbrella drinks.
And I looked at her and I had no idea what to say.
No idea what to say.
And so I just looked at her and I said, what's that?
What is that?
And she looked at me with the biggest smile on her face and she said, Oh, I'm a communist.
And from then on, you guys, you would think that little miss upstate New York, daughter of a colonel, served on Operation Iraqi Freedom, served at 9-11, you'd think I would know what to say when I met a communist, right?
I'm a big history nerd, thanks to my parents.
But no.
I had absolutely no idea what to say to a communist with mass murderers and dictators on her wall that was giving me the same talking points that we hear all the time throughout the 20th century and from the leftists of America today.
That her version of communism, if done right this time, because it's never been done right before, would bring equity for all, it would end poverty, it would support the working class and bring dignity to them, all the usual talking points.
I had no idea what to say to somebody who was able to push that kind of rhetoric onto me, and it was such a disappointing moment.
And so from then on, I was determined to make sure that my generation was equipped to handle those conversations.
That's why I started my nonprofit.
If you go to fightsocialism.org, you'll be able to watch all of the content, the educational and historical content that we make.
And what we really love to do is interview survivors.
So that's how I got connected to Dr. Gorka.
And I'm just so thankful that he gave me this opportunity to talk with all of you guys for the next three hours.
Are you excited or what?
But if you look at what's going on in America today, you'll find that the numbers may look scary 70%.
70% of my generation claims they would vote for a socialist.
I'm going to change your mindset on this.
I'm going to make sure that you understand this isn't a scary situation.
This is all fixable if we do this correctly and if we act quickly.
So that's going to be my focus.
And what I will say though, you guys, I'm excited and I hope you guys start calling in.
I'll share the number for that later and we'll get talking.
Keep talking.
You can go all the way up to – you don't have to – it's not a hard stop at 10 seconds.
So that's just kind of what you're aiming at 10 to 15 seconds to stop around there.
So you were a little bit early there, but good job anyway.
That did really well.
Was that good?
Yeah.
The mics are on right now on Rumble and Facebook.
Exciting.
Hi, guys.
Everyone watching.
Yep.
We've got a lot of people tuned in.
Good stuff.
But yeah, that was good.
That was a good story.
Seb kind of gave us a cliff-nosed version of that story, the communist poster, but I never heard the full story.
Yeah, it was a little crazy.
I remember when I was in the College of Republicans, there was a similar party-themed poster for Republican presidents.
One with George Bush and Nixon doing the peace sign, but yeah, for communists.
That was yesterday.
We had that theme a little bit.
I remember seeing one that was like that for the Democrats that had Andrew Jackson in it.
I'm like, oh, modern Democrats would not want Andrew Jackson affiliated with their party.
Strange.
We've got roughly two and a half minutes here.
We'll go over that.
And we are going into a nine minute segment.
Yes.
Nine minutes!
And we've got nothing here.
So I'm going to play the music for an intro.
And then I'll give you a countdown.
I'll say, And then I'll be putting the music down.
Oh, you got me scared for a second.
I thought you were getting started.
I was like, whoop!
No, no, no, no.
But that's what it'll be like there because we don't have a read or disclaimer.
Okay, can you repeat that for me?
Sorry, I totally forgot.
Okay, so nine-minute segment coming up.
Since we don't have a read or disclaimer coming in, I'm just going to count you in.
At about 15 seconds, I'll give you three, two, and I'll either stop there or say, whenever you're ready, the music will be going down.
That's just me taking my hand off the button to turn your mic on.
He'll count you down to your ear.
I'll count you down to your ear.
You'll know when to go.
And I'll get better about the timing next time.
Yeah, it's good.
I mean, it's better to finish early than to finish late.
Because people hear you if you finish early and people do not if you finish late.
Exactly, yeah.
Versus some people who go with five seconds left in the segment and they're still wrapping up, which obviously doesn't sound right.
If you run through the break, it's kind of like, eh, well, you just kind of miss your opportunity to finish your thought.
Okay.
80 seconds.
Alright.
80 seconds.
Is your podcast, what is it, daily?
Weekly?
What's the schedule?
The Federalist Papers one?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's weekly.
Every Monday.
Nice.
It's called Freedom Papers.
Freedom Papers.
Love it.
Thanks.
Papers, please.
That could be a whole podcast on, like, vaccine passports.
Oh my gosh, yeah, you guys, I am not allowed to, like, eat anything, apparently.
Like, I'm not vaccinated, you know?
Yeah, me neither.
So I, when I came to this, I had to, like, pack a lunch, because I don't think I'm allowed in the restaurants here.
So I'm just getting in and out.
That's wild.
They're doing that in D.C.
now, too, which is great.
I don't know how you do it.
I don't know.
I'm standing strong though.
I'm about to be kicked off every domestic flight.
That's gonna count.
Alright, we've got 30 seconds still coming.
30 seconds.
9 minute segment.
Count you in.
seconds.
Nine minute segment.
I'll count you in.
Alright.
Sounds good.
Are we doing good?
I'll count you in.
This is so exciting.
I love the music.
We'll have to tell Dr. Gorka that he does a good job planning all this.
You guys, welcome back.
This is Morgan Zeggers.
I am guest hosting for Dr. Gorka.
He's out.
I'm in.
We're talking about socialism.
We're talking about young America because what the heck is going on with us, right?
Now, I'm here to give you two lessons this segment that are going to really, really help you out when it comes to understanding what's going on with Gen Z and millennials.
The first lesson You guys, actually, let's do three lessons because I just saw something on the news that came up that now the radical left is once again asking Biden to talk about canceling student loan debt, making college free, the usual yada yada Marxist crap.
Now, what's happening there, I hope you guys understand, when I, let me tell you a story.
When I was in my first ever job out of college, I worked at an advertising company in Boston.
And it was one of those more liberal companies where nobody has a solid desk, everybody just sits in cafeteria-style open seating because it's supposed to be hip and cool, you know what I mean?
It's one of those companies.
Now, that meant that you could pretty much hear everybody's conversations, so there's good and bad in that for working collaboration.
But, one of the positive things that I learned from all of it was the reasons why all of my lovely, more liberal co-workers were voting a certain way.
And I can tell you this, it didn't go much beyond, oh yeah, well this person said they're going to cancel my student loans, and I would really like that to happen because I feel hopeless with this.
And it was just that.
I was going to vote for Bernie because he says he's going to cancel my student loans.
End of story.
It doesn't really go deeper than that.
Now I find a lot of positivity in that situation if you ask me.
You could be a little depressed at the fact that somebody would make such a big decision for the leadership of our country based on something as shallow as that and such a bad decision that they personally made.
But I find hope in it because it means that we're able to win them over.
So that's the first lesson there, that this really isn't a problem of deeply rooted socialist overtakers that are taking over Gen Z and Millennials.
Instead, we're dealing with a small, radical group that does want to do things like seize the means of production, and they understand my generation is very, very ignorant on the politics and the history of this ideology, and they're preying on it.
So I believe my generation deserves the truth.
I believe if they had the truth, they would be on our side, because I hope to God that if they saw the basic facts and understood the basic facts, they would in no way want to repeat the two dozen-plus failed attempts of socialism and communism over the last couple centuries.
The big lesson there is for us to understand our enemy.
If you've read Sun Tzu, The Art of War, you know this is a big lesson in the book.
What he says is that if you understand yourself when you're battling, but you don't understand your enemy, you're going to have constant little tiny wins that feel good.
Maybe you'll go viral, for example, on social media with a sassy video that makes fun of young people for wanting socialism, telling them, ship off to Venezuela and never come back because they're ungrateful little twats, but Are you really winning anybody over there?
Are you having much of an impact other than suiting yourself with more social media positivity that makes you feel good on the inside because it releases the endorphins?
Do you like that?
Or do you want to have long-lasting meaningful change in the country?
And that will come by understanding who we are up against and who our potential enemies are.
So here's what I'm looking at.
There's a huge difference between a radical leftist, a seize-the-means-of-production-style leftist, and a naive young person that was totally let down by the American public education government school system.
Two HUGELY different groups, okay?
So, I look at a number I mentioned earlier in the last segment.
70% of young Americans, according to a 2019 YouGov poll, so this was before COVID, who knows what's going on now, 70% of people my age said they would vote for a socialist if they were given the option.
And then in a Gallup poll in 2018 and 2019, the numbers came out that again, a majority of young people would choose socialism over capitalism if given the option.
Now you can look at that and be like, what the heck?
We are screwed.
Or you can look at that and say, all right, let's be honest.
How much of that 70%, how much of that majority of young people really want to seize the means of production and nationalize major industry.
Now, ask yourself, how many of that percentage even know what that word means, to nationalize, or to seize the means of production?
Do you think they've ever even heard that term before?
Before COVID, when everybody started saying we needed to nationalize the industries to solve the health crisis, yada yada, Bill de Blasio.
I highly doubt that they've even heard that term before, and I highly doubt that they understand what it would mean, let alone want to do it.
That's where I find a lot of positivity.
And that's where we're able to separate the difference between a radical, like, I don't know, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who's a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, A group that says they want to end private companies and private business, corporations in exchange for publicly owned, worker owned, collectively owned, you know, the usual yada yada crap that they always put out.
There's a big difference between an AOC style socialist, an economic socialist that has read it and wants to try it.
Again, I call them flat-earthers of economics because how can you look at the two dozen attempts and then say, let's try it one more time.
I think I might work this time.
There's a huge difference between that and the young people of America that simply did not get a proper education on history, economics, ideology, government, civics, finance, let alone the very specific tragedies that happened in the 20th century.
Okay?
That's where I find positivity.
If our generation got this information, I think we could win them over.
Now the other thing that I want you guys to understand, this is the big one.
The left is able to make fun of us and win the argument of socialism when we call everything socialism.
And so it's really important for us, knowing that our generation did not get a proper education on the terminology and the basic terms like socialism versus communism versus everything else.
And so it's up to us to deliver them these basic truths.
One of these things is that socialism is just the economic step of communism.
It is the government taking over the major industries, controlling them, becoming the provider of those services and products.
It's very dangerous because it creates a reliance.
The people are now reliant on the government as the only provider of those things, and it means that the government can then say, okay, now we are going to force you to do X, Y, Z, or you are not getting this good or service.
See how that works?
So you're putting yourself in a very weak position.
You're now dependent on one monopoly force, and they can pretty much force you to do whatever they want.
That's why you see things like forcing people to do certain things on election day, what we see in Cuba, Venezuela, etc.
Knowing that there is much more to the problem now than just the economic step of communism.
I want you guys to make sure that when you talk to young people, you explain to them that socialism is just one of the problems.
What we see today with the COVID mandates, with the force that we're seeing there, that's authoritarianism.
That is authority telling you, forcing you to do something, not giving you the choice.
And that is completely un-American.
It's completely unprecedented.
The next thing is totalitarianism, which is basically the elimination of any opposing thought, opposing viewpoint from the public square and from a position of power.
And I want to talk about that later on.
We're going to have some guests on to discuss it.
But I want to talk to you about how college campuses, and now even elementary school, middle school, high schools, those are becoming, with college campuses, many little breeding grounds for totalitarians that then graduate and go off into the working forces.
They go off into our government bureaucracy, our military, and the corporations, and they're bringing their radical ideas with them.
So we've got to fix it.
The guests will talk about that with us.
Thank you.
The guests will talk about that with us.
Prison Fellowship disclaimer.
Mics are back on on the video stream.
It's gonna sound like this.
Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Prison Fellowship.
And you'll come in right after that.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good.
Thank you.
Thanks for the chair.
Thought I'd go ahead and read a couple of comments from the Rumble chat here.
Was that good?
Yeah.
Okay.
Adjusting.
Okay.
Perfect.
Thank you.
You've got some fans in our rumble chat already, Morgan.
One... Really?
Noah Klein.
Hi, nice to meet you.
Thank you.
What?
Noah Klein says, Morgan needs her own radio show.
Thanks, Noah.
And Three Arnhart, that's a regular in our chat, says Morgan gives hope for the future.
Aw, thank you.
I appreciate it.
I will dial up Mr. Posovic right now.
Skype channel two.
Okay.
Two and a half minutes.
Mr. Posovic.
We're going to talk about babies.
Hello, Mr. Posovic.
Can you hear us?
We have you on.
Can you hear us?
Uh, we see you on video, but we do not hear you yet.
I can see- I can see his mouth moving, he's talking, but yeah, we're not getting audio.
Sounds faded.
Skype 2 is up.
Yeah, I have it up here as well.
Should work.
Um... Sorry, no, still not hearing you, sir.
Yeah, try- Jeff, wanna try phone?
Skype's not working.
Already?
Uh, yeah.
Why isn't it working?
You have Skype 2 on it?
Yep, it's up.
Skype 2, yeah, no, he's gesturing the hand symbol to call him on the phone, so just call him on the phone.
How the hell is it not muted?
We got 90 seconds here.
No audio output.
Yeah.
90 seconds.
No worries.
We still have them on screen, so if we use phone, we can just... That's gotta be something on our end, because that's the whole point.
To show the board setup.
Dunder Mifflin.
All right. - Okay.
We've done this before, where we sync up phone audio.
Hey, we're just gonna do phone, alright?
Okay.
Because, are you not able to hear us?
Because we're not able to hear you.
Me?
No, we're talking to Jack.
But on Skype we can't hear you.
Um, we've got like 35 seconds.
Actually, you know what?
You just want to put your phone down and use it as a speakerphone?
And we can just keep you on Skype for the video.
We've done that before.
for.
The audio and video should sync up at that point.
25. Zach?
Yeah.
Alright.
All right.
Let's just introduce it.
Let's just introduce it.
All right.
Alright, welcome back you guys.
As we were discussing in the last segment, I like to focus my time on what the heck is going on with young America and what adults can do, what older generations can do to try and fix the problem.
And then, honestly, a lot of the problem has to be fixed by our own generation.
So there's a bunch of different things to do here.
Now, you guys, how long am I waiting for Jack?
I know we have Jack Posobiec, one of my very good friends.
He is coming in with us as a guest because there's something else that I want to talk about really quick while we have him.
regarding young American, what we can do to protect and really preserve their future.
A lot of it has to do with culture.
So, Jack, are you there?
Can I bring you on now?
Hey, I'm all set, Morgan.
How are you?
Jack, thank you so much for joining us.
Thanks for taking the time.
I know there's something going on right now that I would really love for you to kind of give us a brief on first, if you don't mind.
And can you tell us a little bit about Daily Human Events really quick, and then we'll get on to that story that you want to talk about.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, so for Human Events Daily, that is the podcast that I've launched with Turning Point USA through the TP Live Network, which of course you are also a part of on your podcast with Freedom Papers, as well as the Turning Point Live Daily Show, which takes place immediately following mine in the Turning Point block.
So you're kind of the, we have the middle section, which is just, you know, the conversation on the couch, and then I do kind of do the news beforehand.
Now, what's interesting, though, is, of course, I'm doing that out of Washington, D.C., and then those people are back in the Phoenix, Arizona, headquarters doing live, and then usually, I believe, that's where you do the Freedom Papers from, for the most part.
And so, it's part of this really new, whole big spread of podcasts that's being put out by Turning Point.
And you know, we've just been, I mean, the numbers have been absolutely stupendous in terms of the downloads.
The response has been astounding.
And I think it really speaks to the message of the fact that people are checking out of the mainstream media and people really have a hunger and thirst for number one, understanding what's really going on behind the scenes in our country.
And then also understanding what's really happening for the time present and where we are going now today on the show, for example, We released a bunch of interviews.
We're doing this whole week pre-recorded interviews, not live like we are right now.
And this day, the one that we released is a sit-down between me and James O'Keefe from Project Veritas, where we are putting out a ton of receipts regarding Jake Tapper and this producer of his that's been up in a bit of a scandal.
And believe it or not, that producer, we just got confirmation literally minutes before I came on with you that he has resigned from CNN.
Wow.
So that's the big news.
Now, I know you've broken news on the show before.
Was it with the Kyle Rittenhouse story?
So I'm not surprised to see that you're leading this too.
Jack, can you just explain what the heck is going on with the media companies, the big corporations in America, our leaders, that are really failing our kids, specifically by not holding people like this accountable?
I mean, this has been quite some time before he finally announced that he was resigning.
Well, not only that, Morgan, it's the fact that it took me and James O'Keefe and Project Veritas pounding them over and over and over.
Plus, Veritas literally sent a guy to his court appearance yesterday in Fairfax County, Virginia, where he's going to court for a domestic dispute.
We also got confirmation from Fairfax County police that he is under investigation from the child exploitation unit of Fairfax County.
We'll see what comes of that.
Hopefully justice will come of that because that's what we want.
And there sort of is this paradigm going on of You know, there's corporate media, which I think a lot of people have come to learn, and whether you're a conservative or a liberal or a centrist or just a normie who doesn't even know what side of whatever aisle they're on, don't even know what the aisle is, right?
But you have this kind of pervasive sense that when you're listening to the corporate media, the corporate press, particularly from places like CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, that the interests that they are serving, Aren't necessarily the interests of the people or the interests of the reader, but it seems like they're serving higher interests for the interests of the massive conglomerates that have purchased them.
You look right in Washington D.C., where Seb usually does the show out of, Politico is typically the front page news for everybody.
Well, Politico is now owned by a conglomerate out of Germany.
It bought them up for a cool billion dollars.
I mean, nice work if you can get it, but what does that have to do with serving the American people?
Yeah, no, and I'm glad that you brought that up because it's not exactly like many of the people that are in the public eye have our best interest at heart or our children's best interest.
And I've railed against this for quite some time, but I find it fascinating that we admire these celebrities and athletes when in reality they have quite the trouble going on behind the scenes in their private lives and for some reason our children are taught to look up to them.
So I'm excited to get your input on that in the next segment, but thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Guys, what if we try like this?
We'll see you next time.
Okay, you guys, welcome back.
Oh my gosh, we're just flying through this first hour.
We're going to bring back Jack Posobiec, but first, Dr. Gorka wanted me to remind you guys of a startling statistic that I was shocked by.
It turns out nearly one-third, 31%, of all annual charitable giving occurs in December And 12% of all giving occurs in the last three days of each year, so that means right now we are in that three-day window when many Americans just like you are planning year-end giving and looking for tax deductions.
A lot of us here at America First have told you all month about the awesome work of the nonprofit Prison Fellowship, the Angel Tree People, but they plan on a lot more that they are doing to help prisoners' kids In 2022, okay?
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Is Jack on?
Can I bring him back in?
I'm here, Morgan.
I'm all here.
Okay, Jack.
Now, here's the thing.
You were mentioning earlier that our media, the people at the top, they don't have our best interests at heart.
But for some reason, we look up to them so much and it baffles me.
And so you and I have talked about this before of why the heck do we idolize These famous athletes, these actors, these actresses, the singers, because it turns out, guess what?
They're a bunch of druggies behind the scenes.
They're doing all this terrible stuff with their families behind the scenes, and they don't really have much to get together in their own lives.
And so why are we telling our children to look up to them?
Now, you are quite the hardworking family man, and I really look up to you.
So I think you are the kind of person that we should look up to and tell our children that you are a great role model for a man.
And I'm sorry to be cheesy, but I think that really is the case and we should look up to people based on their character, not how much of a following they have or how much money they have.
And you're a great example of somebody that our people in this country should look up to.
Now, I want to get right into solutions.
I hate to be just a complainer.
We could complain the whole segment.
But I was hoping you and I could focus on some day-to-day solutions that you would recommend for Americans to improve their lives, to improve the communities across the country, and to improve this country, and then let's talk big-picture solutions that you think need to happen as well.
How about that?
Well, I think, you know, and I thank you so much for bringing that up.
And of course, thank you for your for your kind words.
I mean, I think I don't I was actually going back and thinking about this.
I don't know that you and I have actually done any, any like public stuff together.
Like we're we've been friends for a while.
And we, you know, we work together at Turning Point, but I don't know that we've ever actually done like a live interview or podcast or anything together.
I believe this is the first one if I have to go back and look.
But one thing that I think That a lot of people could do, and I say this as, you know, I've got two young little boys and my wife, and we're trying to just figure out how all this is supposed to go.
And I think about my own kind of backstory where, you know, and far be it from me to, you know, try to adapt anything that Andrew Reitbart ever said, but I think that his famous maxim of politics is downstream from culture is actually something That I would take, but I would add one piece to it.
And I'd say this to conservatives.
And if there were a software upgrade, I'd love, I could just push it out to all conservatives and Patriots and people on the right.
And to just say, yes, that's true.
But also remember that culture is downstream from economics.
What do I mean by this?
I look at my generation.
So I was born in 84 and I'm kind of like, they consider that like an elder millennial or sort of like the cusp in between millennial and Gen X. And.
Everyone of my age range, or just millennial in general, we're nomads.
We don't live in those communities where everybody grew up together, everybody knows every family, you know every name up and down the street, play until the lights come on.
I grew up like that, but nobody lives like that anymore.
You know why?
Because the economic situation in this country has turned everyone, specifically in my generation, into nomads.
People are moving everywhere for work.
People are trying to figure out where they're going to make it.
Or work has gone remote.
So you can, you know, kind of pick and choose where you want to live.
So much of this stuff has happened.
And that has caused the breakdown of those tight knit communities, like the one that I grew up in just outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
And so when I can remember growing up in Norristown, and it was like that, and I knew the kids that were Um, the sons and daughters of the people that my dad had gone to high school with and worked with and knew growing all the way up.
And that's how it works.
That stuff takes time to build.
It takes time to build community.
And so I think that, you know, we do have this kind of go to go at our own way mentality on the right.
And I think that's good.
And I think we do need that innovation, but we also shouldn't forget the idea that when you have, and so that's, that's one thing that my wife and I figure out, you know, and my, my son is actually.
We go to this private daycare, but it's actually like with a bunch of his friends and a bunch of, you know, her girlfriends and their kids there that are around the same age.
And then so it becomes more of like a social place for him to interact with.
And he's only three, but to interact with these guys on a one to one level without sort of the oppressive, you know, public nature of school or government school, you know, wrapped around it.
And I think that's the kind of stuff we need to start looking at as conservatives, whether that be homeschools, homeschool pods, Rethinking the one-room schoolhouse, what that's going to look like in the internet age, looking at different types of online academies with, you know, interactive and in-person features along with them.
I think there's a lot of energy behind that.
Homeschooling, of course, one of the silver linings of COVID has been homeschooling has completely taken off.
It is going into 2022.
What you're going to see is that homeschooling and homeschooling communities, people that are totally checked out of the government system, Are going to be the new, I really believe the new core, one of the core constituencies of conservatism and really just what it means to be American because, you know, something, and, and, you know, I'm not going to get into it, but of course we all, we all saw what happened when we went on zoom and parents were finally looking over the shoulder to see what they were being taught in Loudoun County and all these other places.
And it's completely insane.
They're indoctrination centers.
So people are checking out and finally, finally.
People are saying, I want to take an active role in the socialization and education of my children, and that is something that is so incredibly American.
No, thank you, Jack.
I completely agree, and I think we're going to get into that in a few future segments, but thank you so much for sharing that insight.
We appreciate it.
And you guys stay tuned for the next segment.
We appreciate it.
We appreciate it.
Mics are back on. - Yeah.
Oh, for the Rumble stuff?
Uh, yeah, Rumble and Facebook, and he's still on the line if you wanna keep talking to him.
Jack is?
Yeah.
Is he staying on for another?
Are you staying on for more?
You need to wrap up to like anything else.
I mean, not for another segment, just to, you know, to talk to him.
He's here.
Okay.
Thanks, Jack.
I appreciate it.
Thanks for coming on.
Oh, well, no, they had, um, they had scheduled me till I think until whenever the four o'clock, uh, bit is over.
Do you want to do the last segment with him?
You can, if you want.
Jack, can you, can you do the last segment and then like tell people how they can listen to you and everything?
Yep.
Okay, thanks.
Let's just close it out with you guys.
Perfect.
All right.
So this one is 3 minutes and 50 seconds.
This is the shortest segment of the hour.
So with the bumper in and the bumper out, it's going to be more like 3 minutes and 20 seconds.
I'll give you the 3-minute warning.
It'll come fairly quickly.
So just be ready for that.
Otherwise, yeah, it's pretty easy.
And then we go into a 7-minute break after this, and we'll pick back up in the next hour.
Wonderful.
Thank you so much.
Buzzing through.
I appreciate it.
Is it going smoothly?
Yeah, no hiccups so far.
Except for the audio that got worked out.
Hey Morgan.
Yes, Jack?
Were you a Glee fan?
No.
Why?
Do I look like some character?
Do I act like some character?
Is it the one where they sing a lot?
No!
It has nothing to do with you.
We're working on a piece at Human Events that I wanted to talk about that gets into Glee though.
Oh no, I'm sorry, I'm not your girl.
No, but I was just going to say, I think that could be something cool to promo, because I haven't talked about it publicly yet, but we're going to talk about how Glee basically started, basically was the plagueship for Wokeness.
Wait, I would love that so much.
Please.
Right?
Let's talk about that.
Did you see that article about how it's like we're going to have that as our greatest export?
Wokeness.
Wokeness.
Oh, gross.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't think so.
30 seconds.
I don't think the world wants it.
No, it would be horrible to the world.
I hope we don't export it.
I hope they aren't excited to have it exported to them.
Chris.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Alright, welcome back you guys.
Now, okay, so we have Jack joining us for just one last little segment.
I got him to stay a little bit longer because we're going to talk about a little bit more with culture.
Now Jack, I was just telling you about this article that I saw that was basically all excited about how America's The greatest export is about to be wokeness.
We're going to spread it to the rest of the world.
And my heart sank when I saw it.
I hope the world's not excited to get some American wokeness.
They shouldn't want it.
But what are your thoughts on this?
And I hear you have an exciting project.
Can you explain that a little bit for us?
Yeah.
So, I mean, and funny enough, Dinesh D'Souza actually wrote a book about this a long time ago, where essentially the lens by which most of the world views the United States is Hollywood.
And of course, Hollywood is crazy.
And Hollywood is insanely woke.
And so they see this stuff.
They see James Bond going woke.
They see all the new, you know, Star Wars and Marvel and everything else.
They're going totally woke.
And so people think that that is the same thing as the United States because they don't have any other frame of reference, especially right now for the last couple of years, they can't even travel.
Right?
So I do think that people are going around the world are starting to think that America is getting more woke because they are looking at this through the lens of Hollywood.
And it's so interesting that you mentioned that.
Because we're doing, at Human Events, a little bit of a pop culture research project.
Because a lot of, you know, I was just talking about this in the last segment, but a lot of good scholarship from people like Chris Ruffo and Dr. James Lindsay has gone into where CRT and wokeness come from academically speaking.
But nobody's talking about where it came from and why it exploded so large on the scene Really starting in the early 2010s and then peaking kind of towards, uh, you know, Obama's second term into 2015, 2014, et cetera.
And so what we've done is we're going back at human events.
We've got a new piece and I've spent almost all day editing it yesterday.
You know, Tanya, my wife is, she's sitting there like, why are you, you know, you're off, you're on prerecord.
What are you?
And I said, I got to work on this piece.
I got to work on this piece.
Um, that was submitted where we are pinpointing it to a certain massively popular TV show.
that came out pre-Netflix, it was kind of like the last network TV show to really take the country by storm, that at one point had over 30 million viewers.
Morgan, do you know what show it was?
Do you remember a little show called Glee?
Do you remember that one?
I remember hearing about it, but it was not my cup of tea.
Right, Glee Club, and Lea Michele, and Matthew Mahoney and all this, right?
That show was the plagueship of wokeness into America.
That was the one that combined fake oppression with identity politics, right?
And we break this down into so many ways.
But essentially, you have all these people that they look good, they sound good, they're wonderful.
One of them is like the head of the cheerleading squad, the other one's the head of the football team.
And yet they're running around telling everybody that they're oppressed because, well, I guess they like to sing.
This is the first time that people in the United States on a wide scale really were introduced to wokeness.
It's also, number one, responsible for the word problematic entering our life.
Interesting.
Now, Jack, I've got to cut you off here, but what is the second?
Presentation?
All right.
Thanks for joining on.
I appreciate it.
- Hey, Ms. Zegers, Miss Zegger's mics are back on.
You can talk to Jack again.
Jack, hi.
Sorry you got cut off.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, I don't have a show clock on my end.
But I appreciate it.
Thank you very much.
No, no problem.
You got a bounce?
Um, yes, I believe.
What do we got next?
We got a six and a half minute break and then the start of the second hour.
All right.
Yeah.
Thank you, Jack.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, no problem.
I was happy to be able to promote that.
Talk to you guys later.
Thanks for coming on.
Bye.
All righty.
Um, and again, this is a, uh, it is the longest break.
It's before we go to the next hour.
So you want to keep the mics on for Rumble and Facebook?
Yeah, that's fine.
All righty.
I don't see any much fun.
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
I'm all set.
Thank you.
Am I doing all right?
Oh, is it?
I'm all set.
Thank you though.
I'm all set.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
It's interesting what you said a little while ago about how being 25, you're kind of like, you're not sure if you're in the Millennial or the Zoomer crowd.
And I get that too.
And I'm 27 and people tell me, no, no, no, you're the oldest of the Zoomers.
I'm like, really?
Like, I don't think so.
I mean, like, I grew up watching Spongebob.
I don't know.
My ear hurts.
Yeah, no, I... Half the time I read that I'm a millennial, half the time I'm Gen Z, I just pick whatever sounds better for the situation.
I don't really like to be known as a millennial.
I mean, those guys... And then Gen Z's got its own problems.
Yeah.
In terms of, like, the memes and being tech-savvy, part of me wishes I was Zoomer, but, like, at the same time...
Oh, thank you so much.
It was nice to meet you.
Sorry, what'd you say?
Oh, no, I was just gonna say, sometimes I wish I was a Zoomer just because they know memes like no other generation in history, but at the same time, we Millennials got to have a somewhat normal childhood.
At least like the 90s.
Meme humor.
Wanna know what I learned about meme humor that... You know, maybe I should go...
Maybe I shouldn't say that on the microphone.
It's up to you what you want to say.
We got four and a half minutes.
No, I should not then.
Um, I learned about memes.
The left can't meme because they have so much BS in their argument that they have to say like 17 sentences to try and make their argument make sense.
Exactly.
And so they can't put it in meme form where it's just a wah-wah.
Exactly.
Conservatives can hit you with a one-two.
And it's just a quick fact that makes the meme funny.
Liberals need, like, 17 sentences.
Memes 101?
They also just can't stand that right-wing memes are so effective.
That's why they had to go out of their way to declare Pepe the Frog a literal hate symbol with ADL.
Like, as soon as they did that, I'm like, oh, they are scared and they know it.
Like, they're terrified of the power of memes.
Thank you, Batten.
These people have very long names, it's hard to say.
But someone said, keep at it.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, J-Ho, and Petalsuite.
I feel like a Twitch person.
Superchats!
Thanks for the donation.
Reading superchats.
I'm like one of those military guys that makes a lot of money playing video games.
Oh yeah.
But I've pretty much only played Pac-Man.
I find that crazy.
I'm a terrible young person.
You'll learn.
You'll learn as you get older.
I mean, I remember when AOC literally played, like, Among Us with Twitch streamers to promote, like, voting.
See, that's why I need to get better at it.
She's so good at the young people stuff.
That was very good for her.
She is really effective, yeah.
I can't deny it.
Actually, Madison, who's coming on, he did an article interview about why conservatives should do things like Twitch.
Yeah.
And I got interviewed in it, and I mentioned that it was about why AOC just got so much money on Twitch.
And she'll fundraise so much on the Instagram lives and stuff.
We'll get banned by Twitch.
She has more Twitter followers than all other verified members of Congress combined.
Really?
AOC, yeah.
She knows her social media following.
This was one of the greatest articles I've ever read and by greatest I mean absolutely brain-dead articles.
It was from The Hill and it was called The Constitution Isn't Working and at one point this guy, I forgot his name, he is just whining and complaining like There are so many members of Congress who care more about social media stunts than passing legislation, and he lists, like, Madison Cawthorn, Paul Gozar, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, and, like, all Republicans, of course.
I'm like, and you're not gonna mention AOC, who is the most social media-obsessed of them all?
Like, it was obviously partisan nonsense, but it was... Partisan nonsense.
It was just a massive Cove article.
It was hilarious.
Hm.
That's quite fascinating.
We have to... So, am I reading Job Creator's Network ad?
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I feel like every guest host at least has to do one impression.
At some point.
Almost unintentionally.
Oh, I impression him all the time because he always says things.
One time I told him I had a date and he was like, and how old is this man, Morgan?
And I was like, mmm.
You don't want to know.
Kidding.
Where is it?
I have a picture of us.
I wonder if I could show it on the screen.
I think he posted a picture of when he met you.
Look how tall he is compared to me.
Yeah, that's the one when everybody asked our heights.
I'm 5 feet tall and Dr. Gorka is 6'3".
So we really just pair well together.
I think he's actually slightly taller than President Trump, actually.
I know Trump's tall, but, uh... Really?
Yeah, I think.
Don't quote me on that.
Yeah, about the same.
Yeah, he might be a little bit bigger.
But nobody, as far as I'm concerned, is taller than Barron Trump.
Oh, he is very tall.
He's like seven feet tall!
He's taller than LeBron James.
That's great.
Gotta love it.
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We're talking about the groups to the left, baby.
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I love that he pre-filmed some intros for me.
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That's right, you guys.
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My name is Morgan Zeggers.
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We got all banned together to fight against these crazy radicals in DC, including the Biden bureaucracy and administration.
Now, you guys, this is just one little aspect of the rise of the left, so I hope you go support GCN.
But next step, as I mentioned, I run Young Americans Against Socialism, so I give a lot of speeches on college campuses and to older generations of Americans at conferences and at political events to give them a brief of what we're up against with the radical left in terms of their actual structure.
I think it's really important.
We just had Jack Posobiec on, and he talked about why it's important for us to rethink education of our children.
I think it's not only important to rethink education of your children, our children, but it's important to rethink community and leadership as well, and what our roles in them are versus what the government's roles in those things are.
So that being said, it's really important for us to be able to coordinate as we understand what the heck the left is up to as well.
We can't really beat them if we don't know or understand what they are doing and how they are funded.
Now, there's three groups that I really want you to know about that the left is focusing on.
Actually, let's do four.
The first one, let's talk about Justice Democrats.
I hope everybody out there has heard of Justice Democrats before, but unfortunately, you probably haven't.
It's a political arm of the radical left, if you will.
So if you guys remember, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was elected in 2018.
She came into office.
She became a congresswoman.
And she did so after beating a very deeply rooted establishment Democrat, a Nancy Pelosi type, that was in office in the district.
She beat him in a primary.
His name was Joe Crowley.
What AOC had done was won this submission pool after somebody in her life submitted her to be a potential participant in the pool that was run by the Justice Democrats.
Justice Democrats looked for candidates across the country in the pool that they could turn into political candidates and then run against deeply rooted blue seat Democrats that were on the side of Nancy Pelosi.
Why would they want to do this, though?
Well, when you understand that the left isn't just trying to get rid of Republicans or get rid of get rid of the red in Congress or in positions of power, they're actually trying to replace the people in blue seats.
get rid of the red in Congress or in positions of power.
They're actually trying to replace the people in blue seats, the people that are deeply rooted in the Democratic Party.
The people that are deeply rooted in the Democratic Party.
They're trying to replace them with their own seize the means of production style socialist leaders.
They're trying to replace them with their own seize the means of production style socialist leaders.
That's when you understand what's really going on here.
That's when you understand what's really going on here.
So understanding the Justice Democrats is just one aspect of the radical left is important, but it's very important because each election they endorse more candidates like AOC.
In 2020, they decided to put out a new poll where they said, who's going to be the next AOC?
And they're going to continue to do that kind of stuff.
They're not only endorsing people for Congress.
As they gain power, as they gain political dollars and political momentum, they're going to continue to have higher offices see these replacements of Democrats, of capitalist Democrats, of elitist Democrats, if you will, Nancy Pelosi style, that at least usually for most Nancy Pelosi style, that at least usually for most of American history, of modern history, we could say, has been on a platform of classical liberalism and capitalism.
They're trying to replace those Democrats with socialists and grow the number of people in the progressive caucus.
So that's what the Justice Democrats does, and it's pretty much run by millennials, people my age.
Now, the next group is the Sunrise Movement.
If you guys remember, in I think it was January 2019, it was right after AOC came to office, there was all this ruckus that was happening on Capitol Hill.
And one of the big things that came out was this viral video of children on Capitol Hill screaming at Senator Dianne Feinstein from California.
And they're telling her, we're going to die unless you support the Green New Deal.
We're going to die and you are being an evil politician for not supporting us.
How dare you?
And then she looks at the kids and she says, listen, kids, that's not how politics works, okay?
You can't just cry and yada yada.
So that video, that exchange went viral and a lot of people were just shocked to see the kids confront the senator, but nobody really asked, wait, how did children even get onto Capitol Hill?
How did children get into a senator's office face to face with her?
How did children end up in some viral video when they are very, very young, elementary age?
It was the Sunrise Movement.
The Sunrise Movement is the lobbying arm of the radical left, and it's again run by such young people that are passionate and excited, but pushing very dangerous ideas like the Green New Deal.
Now, friendly reminder that the Green New Deal was written as an economic transformation for America, and it was revealed after AOC's Chief of Staff admitted this in an interview.
He said, well, yeah, we made it about climate change in the end, but it started as an economic transformation for America.
And now what do they do?
These leftists use children to tell us that we are going to kill the children unless we support the Green New Deal to save the planet, when in reality they're admitting in other interviews that it had nothing to do with the environment until they wrote the bill.
It's really disgusting when you start to see what's going on behind the scenes.
But here's another layer of this.
There's a group called the Democratic Socialists of America.
Now, the DSA has on their website, even, and I don't know if they've removed it by now, but I have a PDF of this, where they explain that, yeah, they definitely intend to end private business and corporations in America.
They just don't have a plan for it yet.
And so in the short term, what they're going to do before they achieve their long term goals, and first of all, why are they not admitting how they're going to achieve their long term goals?
Well, you guys, it's pretty obvious.
It's because it's called seizing the means of production for a reason you forcibly have to take.
Seize is a violent word, and who would want to put that on a website?
These leftists are very good at marketing, and they know that that would be a very, very bad decision to make.
And so instead, they just say that they don't have a plan for it yet.
Now, Knowing this, knowing what they put on their website, guess what they said what they're going to do until they have their long-term plans?
They said in the short term, they're going to slowly increase taxes and regulation on small businesses until they can effectually take them over.
That's what we saw in Venezuela.
And so during COVID, as we see the rise of OSHA, as we see the rise of bureaucracy and these mandates and these regulations and these rules that small businesses, like the hairstylist that literally got thrown in jail for not following a rule from the bureaucracy, That doesn't actually have any constitutional standing.
That's what we saw in Venezuela.
It's what we're seeing today.
And it makes me very worried because it gives government more leverage and power to shut down private businesses so that they don't have to seize them.
They just have to shut us down by claiming we're violating regulations and bureaucratic rules.
And next thing you know, it's too late because it was a slow creep of bureaucracy that actually ended our capitalist economy.
Now what worries me about the DSA, and this is what we might have to end this segment on, what worries me most about the DSA is that they have an initiative on their website, and you can go find this.
It's an initiative that teaches socialists and encourages socialists to become teachers for two main reasons.
The first is, of course, to indoctrinate our children.
They want to push a certain style of curriculum on our kids and teach them a certain history that is wrong and dangerous and deadly.
But the second reason, which is most disturbing and what we saw over COVID, is that they want as many socialists as possible to become teachers so that they are members of the teachers unions because they understand the teachers unions are one of the most effective political arms in the country.
And it has nothing to do with education.
That's why and what it admits on the website is that you can have change in things more and bigger than education.
You can have policy change on all issues if you are a member of a teachers union.
And so when we see these teachers unions today that are telling us they aren't going to comply, they aren't going to go back and teach our children in school in person, they want to keep schools closed, they aren't going to to go back to school and do their job unless we do things like defund the police and tax the rich and do all of these non-school related policies, proposals.
That really shows what their true intentions are.
They're doing this because they want to politicize the teachers unions for their own advantage with things that have nothing to do with school, with our children, with the future of this country.
It's dirty, it's nasty, and we've got to stop them.
But we'll talk about that in a little bit.
I'll see you guys soon.
Thank you.
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video network or something like that.
Mics are back on.
So if you ever find yourself with a little extra time, that's always a good filler.
Okay, thank you.
Something along those lines.
You're listening to...
Was that good?
Was that a good segment?
Yeah, absolutely.
That was good, yeah.
I'm grabbing this video cut.
It's always fun to do this, too.
What, the last minute stuffs?
Sorry.
Yeah, like you're listening to America First.
I'm going to say it really fast.
It's like when I go on Newsmax, I love doing stuff like including the first name of the interviewer.
I'll be like, well, John, thanks for asking.
It's just kind of funny.
Speaking of John, I'll go ahead and dial up John Root now.
Oh yes.
So are we, um, we have one segment with John.
Yes.
So that'll go by quick, and then Madison right after?
Yes.
So we've got the nine minute segment with John, then we've got a six with Madison, and an eight with Madison.
Okay.
We got him for two.
Okay.
Still ringing.
Am I doing an ad read at all for this?
You are not.
You are not.
We are going to play a disclaimer, Forge of Creators Network.
Right there.
Still ringing.
And the thing, I'll just mention this real quick.
Oh, hang on.
Hello, Mr. Root.
Can you hear us?
Hey, I can hear you.
How are you guys?
Wonderful.
We're doing good.
Hi, John.
Letting you know the mics are live on our Rumble and Facebook broadcasts.
Morgan, you're doing a great job.
Oh, thank you, John.
Appreciate it.
Two minutes.
Yep, feed looks good.
John, you want to talk about your Inez thing?
That would be awesome.
That would be awesome.
Would love it.
Love it.
Ooh, I see on Rumble Rants people are asking if I have a podcast.
Um, yes, I have a podcast.
It's called Some Sanity.
And it's on all the podcast platforms.
But if you guys go to, I'll just message.
Marissa first, what's your name?
And I have that video cut of this, I assume he's a basketball player that you wanted to play for this segment.
Yeah, I appreciate you doing that.
Yes, no problem.
Yeah, it's 29 seconds long, so you can just let me know, Morgan, when you want to play that clip, and I can play it.
Okay, cool.
Okay, do you want me to intro you first, and then we watch it, and then we talk about it?
Because we only have one segment, so it should go pretty fast.
Yeah, that sounds good.
Yeah.
Okay, does that sound good for you guys?
Yep, so we'll do the disclaimer, you intro, show, guest, let's play this clip, react, and then you're good to go.
Yeah.
Wind it up, let it go.
45 seconds.
Wind it up, let it go.
So I ended up...
Alright.
When Jack asked if I knew what Glee was, I thought he was going to be like, Because you sing a lot.
I was like, uh, please don't be mad at me.
I don't know what it is.
I haven't heard of it.
Oh, I detested Glee when it was on.
I know.
Maybe that's the problem is none of us watch Glee and so we let it just take over the culture without even knowing.
Exactly.
Maybe we're the only ones that survived.
Alright. Alright. Alright.
Alright. Alright.
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Okay.
Alright, welcome back you guys!
This is Morgan Zegar's guest hosting America First for Sebastian Gorka.
I am so excited to be doing this and I am so excited because I have one of my very good friends joining us for this segment.
His name is John Root.
He's from Turning Point USA.
I have a podcast with Turning Point USA that I'll talk about a little bit later, but I I'm excited to bring John on because he just did one of the coolest interviews with, honestly, what I think, one of the greatest leaders in the cultural movement for this country and for just the general political movement.
Where's John?
Can I bring him on?
Is he on with me?
I'm with you, Morgan.
You're doing a great job.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you, John.
I appreciate it.
Can you give us a little brief of what you're doing over at Turning Point?
Yeah.
So I come from a huge sports background, so I was living in the Bay Area, actually a place I just drove from.
And it's crazy to see a place like the San Francisco Bay Area.
It looks like they're still stuck in March of 2020, unfortunately.
And it's a sad thing to see.
But when I was working there, I was working for the San Jose Sharks and the Golden State Warriors G League team.
So I've been involved in sports for a long time and then got involved at Turning Point USA.
And I'm like, OK, if we're going to fight the culture war, we got to get into sports.
There's politics in sports, but it's being overrun by leftist politics.
Let's talk about the right side of the conversation.
So I started a podcast called Breakaway and we just had Ennis Cantor Freedom on.
I don't think he's had a long form discussion with anybody else in sports media.
He's definitely not having a long conversation or any conversation with LeBron James.
So it was fun to sit down with him and talk to an athlete that's actually using their platform for good and not trying to tell us that, you know, America is a racist place, a horrible place, and we need to, Just burn it all down and then build back better.
He's actually using his platform for good, bringing up the atrocities overseas, and he's actually making a difference.
He actually, I think, probably pushed the Biden administration to make sure that we're not getting products from Xi Jinping over there in China.
He's done great stuff.
Well, you know, that's a big focus for me.
I love to watch Communist China and, of course, all the terrible things that they're doing.
I think it's important for us to connect the dots with young Americans of what China's history is, because we did not get enough of that in the public education system.
And a lot of that, what we're seeing these days, is thanks to athletes like him.
So I think we have a clip, John.
Can we play that, you guys?
You know, you see lots of athletes, actors, rappers, singers, or people who are, you know, platform, are scared to say a word.
But I was like, you know what?
This is the right thing to do.
And the thing is, I'm not doing no politics.
I'm talking about human rights.
And no one's going to come and tell me that don't talk about human rights, you know, because especially NBA, NBA is the one encouraging all the players to go out there and speak out about all the injustices that are happening, not just in America, but all over the world, you know?
So I'm like, I'm going to do it.
Geez, I mean, John, you don't really hear that kind of talk or rhetoric from athletes these days.
He is leading the charge.
Now, I'm excited because you have Breakaway, the Breakaway podcast with Turning Point USA, and there are, I would say there's not enough conservative voices or platforms in the sports world, and I don't know much about sports, but I commend you greatly for doing this because you have the vaccine mandates, you have the travel restrictions, You have all of this stuff that's going on that's really highlighting, especially the Olympics that are coming up.
This is a great time for you to highlight the connection between sports, culture, and politics.
What are you going to do leading into all of these problems as they come to the forefront of the news cycle?
Well, you need to give people an outlet to talk about this stuff, because you're not going to hear it from ESPN.
You're not going to hear it from some of these woke athletes.
So I saw that there was an opening in the sports media industry, and I said, people like Ennis Cantor Freedom, He should be able to talk about this stuff and find a platform that you realize, OK, well, I can talk about this stuff because these other industries or other media outlets are not going to allow me to talk about it.
I can only do so much on my personal Instagram page or social media.
So I was realizing there's I mean, I actually had some interesting conversations over the past few days from some really well-respected people in the sports media space and actually an athlete.
That we're talking about that specifically.
They said, Hey, I don't know how to share my story or I don't know what to do next, or this vaccine mandates being pushed on me.
So I might lose my job or I'm trying to get up to the next level in the NHL or something.
And they're saying, Hey, I want to share my story on your podcast.
And I want to partner with you and turning point USA and breakaway to share it.
So it's, it feels great to me that I'm able to just sit across the table from people or on the other side of the screen.
With people like Ennis Cantor Freedom that say, Hey, you have a great platform you're using and you have a good message and you're trying to make a difference.
So here you go.
You got your hour or so, whatever time you're going to give me, let's talk about this and let's actually make a difference.
Cause I think that's something you were talking about earlier and say, we can complain about stuff till we're blue in the face, but are we actually going to take action?
Are we going to actually make sure that we're going to not just talk about it, but be about it.
And that's what I want to do with Breakaway.
I think that's what we're already starting to do.
That's exciting.
And you're right, there just aren't enough platforms for people to even be able to voice their opinions and their concerns in this space, so I think Breakaway is going to do a really good job of that.
It came at a perfect time.
Now, I feel bad because I was just telling Jack Posobiec, he was our last guest, that when I have kids, they will not be taught to look up to athletes or actresses or singers or movie stars or any of these people in Hollywood as if they are gods, as if they are the perfect role models.
And so I think it's really important that now we do see some positive role models out there, like we are seeing with this basketball player.
Can you tell me, what did you learn from him and what do you think his future looks like?
And how can us conservatives support him?
Because he seems to be making a huge step and this is just the beginning.
Yeah, he's making a huge difference.
But we also have to remember that just like Ennis Cantor Freedom showed in that clip, he's like, you know, there's actors, actresses, Rappers, singers, whatever it may be, some of these big celebrities, you're not going to agree with them entirely.
There's going to be no one you're going to find in politics, no one you're going to find in Hollywood, no one you're going to find in sports that you're going to say, Oh, I agree with every bit of them.
There's things we can pick and choose here with like Ennis Cantor freedom.
We might not really agree with some of the vaccine push or BLM and some social justice stuff, but like, Hey, let's talk about human rights.
And we can focus on that conversation and it bridges the gap because there's way too many people that feel like, okay, you have to tell me how you vote or what you think about this.
And then we'll have a conversation.
And what I'm trying to do with, with breakaways say, Hey, you don't have to be the biggest staunch conservative in order to be on this sports podcast under the umbrella of turning point USA.
And I think with that, we're going, we're going to make a difference.
And we can look up to people like Ennis Cantor freedom.
But I think there's plenty of other people like you brought up earlier, like Jack Pasovic.
That's somebody that people need to look to.
And me as a man, I'm going to look to someone like Jack Pasovic as well.
That like, hey, that's the kind of father I want to be.
That's the kind of man I want to be.
And that's somebody that I want to emulate because there's way too many elites that are out there telling you how to live your life or how terrible America is.
And it's all it's doing is just dividing us.
Yeah, no, I completely agree.
John, we have a little bit of time left.
Real quick, what do you think the first thing we should all be doing to support these athletes that are speaking out and finally getting their platform and getting the courage to do this?
How can we help them?
Just share the story.
Like, honestly, with stuff like this, I always appreciate people that share the Ennis Cantor Freedom interviews.
Anybody that's, I mean, a lot of people don't talk about the only unvaccinated player in the National Hockey League, Tyler Bertuzzi, who plays for the Detroit Red Wings.
You never hear about him and he's literally getting church from other players like this New Jersey devil's defenseman that was yelling at him to go get vaccinated after they had a little scuffle.
Like start promoting this stuff on your platforms.
Like you don't have to have a massive following in order to spread the word.
And I think Charlie Kirk talks about that quite a bit at every single one of our events.
It's like you can be your own mini journalist because especially in sports media, journalists aren't doing their job.
So share their stories.
And I'm going to do the best I possibly can to share their stories and give people some content they're not really getting anywhere else.
Awesome.
Well, thanks, John.
Thanks for joining us.
us.
We appreciate it.
We appreciate it.
All right, Morgan, the mics are back on, on Rumble and Facebook.
Thank you, John, for joining.
We appreciate it.
Thanks.
Thanks for having me.
You guys are doing a great job.
Oh, thank you.
I'll talk to you later.
Okay.
All right, now Madison.
He's phone and a policy we have, of course, if it's a member of Congress or, you know, elected official, we'll keep the mics off regardless so you can talk completely off-air when he's on the line.
Thank you.
Confidentiality.
But yeah, great.
We're pretty much halfway through.
Are we doing good?
We're rolling.
This is the halfway point.
Are we giving the people a good show?
Giving the people what they want.
More importantly, what they need.
I was like, I'm going to radicalize everybody into homeschooling and homesteading.
Nice!
They're not ready.
They're not ready.
But I will homestead one day.
I was looking and I keep watching videos on how to make my own cabin because I'm like, maybe I should just do that too while I'm at it.
I've done part of that.
I did that this summer.
I've renovated a cabin.
Well, that's exciting.
Yeah, I learned a lot.
I think what freaks me out is just, like, all the wires, if I wanted to actually make it, like, a modern home.
Yeah, that's... Gotta have your Wi-Fi, gotta have... Once you get electricity involved... No, guys, I'm about to ditch it all.
I think the property will have home, and then I think I'm gonna have an off location on the property, of course, building for media.
Okay.
And that's the only time I touch technology.
That's when I'm...
You have your studio on like a barn or something.
Otherwise you're chopping wood.
Yeah, like its own industrial building on the property.
And then I will not be looking at phones or screens or anything.
Hello, America First.
That's great.
All right.
I think we're about to have him on the line here.
Yes.
About a minute 40.
Thank you.
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All right, you guys, welcome back.
We have a very exciting guest that is on this segment.
My very dear friend, Congressman Madison Cawthorn, is joining us, and we are going to talk about solutions, okay?
Solutions in government and solutions in our own homes and our own lives, because I really do think when you have stronger individuals, it'll lead to strong families, strong communities, and a stronger country.
Madison completely agrees with me on that one.
And that's why I want him to provide some of his expert insight as a former homeschooled kid, now congressman at a very young age.
So, do I have the congressman with me?
Is he on yet?
Morgan, I am on!
All right.
Hi there.
How you doing?
What are you up to?
I'm doing fantastic.
Just about to do an event for a dear friend of mine, running for the Senate.
So that's going to be great.
But I cannot think of anyone better to be filling in for Sebastian Gorka than an equally passionate freedom fighter like yourself.
You're very sweet.
Thank you very much for doing that and thank you for sharing this time because I have some important questions I think it's going to benefit all of the people listening and watching.
The first thing with everything with COVID, you know I've already asked you this, but we talk more privately.
Everybody is wondering what the heck goes on in Washington, D.C.
because we hear things, we hear promises, we work so hard to get candidates in office, and then we just feel forgotten.
You have insight into this that we will never see.
What do you want us to know about what is going on behind the scenes, and is there anything we can do on that big picture level that we can change?
And then I want to get your opinion on some more personal changes that Americans can make.
Well, Morgan, as I'm sure most people listening to this phone call know, there are always 435 members of Congress divvied up per capita in each state.
When you start working with that many people, you know, they break it up to about 730,000 people represented by each member of Congress.
I fully expected, and you can call it my youthful ignorance, that when I got to Washington, D.C., you know, I knew we were in the minority, I knew Nancy Pelosi would be in command, but I imagined that all 435 members would gather on the floor Uh, we would all be there.
And then, you know, let's say Nancy Pelosi would bring up, well, because of crumbling infrastructure in Indianapolis, we've got 43 Americans dying per day.
What can the federal government do to assist in this help?
And then we'd send our best orators.
We'd send all our staff to go study.
We'd, we'd sit there and we'd have a debate and be like, you know, I completely disagree with everything that you said, except this one point.
And then maybe I can add that to my point.
And you know, you'd find some great middle ground with the ways to actually help people.
But the thing that is so sad is that whenever you watch me give a fiery speech on the House floor, I'm saying, Nancy Pelosi, you are not God, you then will notice that C-SPAN is very zoomed in on my face.
They do this because they don't want to show the whole floor.
They don't want to show there's really only 10, 15, 20 members of Congress on the floor at a time.
The decisions are all made very far away.
They're made in places You know, deep below the Capitol where there's no cameras, there's no public input, it's just the special interest groups.
I think the Democrats might have a torture chamber where they get to convince everyone to vote for their radical policies, but it really is very sad that we don't get together and actually just debate the real issues.
Okay, and so speaking of that, I've interviewed a few people that are on the House Freedom Caucus.
You just joined.
Can you tell me why you did that?
Can you explain to Americans out there what you guys are really all about?
Yes, indeed.
The House Freedom Caucus exists less so to defeat Democrats, more so to make sure that the Republican Party that we do have is one that Republicans can be proud of.
We exist to push the party further to the right, to make sure that we have the most conservative policies we possibly can.
I did not join them at first, Morgan, because, you know, they were behind my opponent in the primary election that I went through, and so they spent like $4 million against me and all these things, and so, you know, just based on principle, I was like, oh, I'm not going to join your guys' ranks, it's ridiculous.
But then, Morgan, I'll tell you, I had to put my personal pride aside when I realized how just disgusting it is, the politics that happen within this uniparty.
So many people in Washington, D.C., they run on radically different platforms.
I mean, you can look at George Bush and Barack Obama.
I've learned this as being in Washington, that they're technically a part of the same party.
They ran on very different platforms, but at the end of the day, all of their policies look almost exactly the same.
How they portray them, you know, it seems very different.
But when you actually look at the real meat of the issues in the legislation and the policies, you realize this uniparty exists, it's very powerful, and that's why I said, you know what?
I'm going to join in with the House Freedom Caucus in trying to defeat the establishment that's trying to destroy our country.
Geez, no, I commend you quite a lot for taking the risk because we don't know what's going on behind the curtain, you know what I mean?
And so when we send average people out there like you, no offense, I just, I love how you represent average America.
I think it really benefits everybody because you can tell us what's going on and what needs to truly be reformed.
And I know Chairman Andy Biggs works very, very hard for the House Freedom Caucus for that.
Now, Madison, Congressman Cawthorn, I should say, sorry I get so used to that.
Stay tight because we are going to have a break and then we'll bring you back.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
All right.
Alright, welcome back you guys.
This is Morgan Zegers.
I'm filling in for Sebastian Gorka here on America First.
Now, we're going to get right back to my great friend, Congressman Madison Cawthorne.
He's going to talk with us about some homeschooling and raising babies, all the great things.
He's going to tell us a little bit about what his mom did to make him so wonderful.
But first, Dr. Gorka wanted me to remind you of a startling statistic.
Nearly one-third of all annual charitable giving occurs in December and Twelve percent of all giving occurs in the last three days of the year, so that means you are right in that three-day window when many Americans just like you are planning year-end giving and they're looking for tax deductions.
I know I am.
All of us here on America First have told you all month about the awesome work of the non-profit prison fellowship, the Angel Tree People, but they plan a ton of stuff and it's coming up in 2022 and they need your help.
We have left the Prison Fellowship banner up at the top of the homepage at sebgorka.com.
So you can still grab a year-end tax deduction and make an eternal change in a prisoner's life with your tax-deductible gift to our friends at the Nonprofit Prison Fellowship.
So just go to sebgorka.com and click on the angel tree banner at the top of the page.
You gotta hurry though, your online gift at sebgorka.com must be posted by midnight on Friday to get credited for this current tax year.
So race to sebgorka.com, click on the angel tree banner, and remember your year-end gift today will help share the gospel with prisoners, ex-prisoners, and their children all year long.
It's a great investment in a better America as we head into 2022.
And now to kick off that same kind of topic, okay?
What is a good, great investment to make in a better America for a better America moving forward?
I can't think of a better person to ask than Congressman Madison Cawthorn, an incredibly young and incredibly passionate and exciting congressman from North Carolina.
Let's bring him back in.
Madison, how are you doing?
Morgan, doing great again.
Very happy to be on.
You're doing a great job in lieu of Sebastian Gorka being gone.
Thank you very much.
Now, there's something that I know and I think a lot of people in your life know, but a lot of people out in America don't know this, and they're starting to get woken up to the idea of homeschooling.
You were homeschooled, and I think that is such a testament to the power of homeschooling, the fact that you were one of the many homeschooled children of America.
Can you tell us how this came to be, what your parents decided for you, and what do you think you benefited from, from this experience?
Absolutely, Will.
They made this decision very early on.
I was born in 1995, so really started doing the school thing around 2000.
And my mother had to make a decision.
She said, you know, do I want to homeschool my child?
Which it wasn't as mainstream as it is now back then.
And she made the decision to do so.
In part, it was because my mother really believed in the importance of masculinity and men being able to stand up and stop evil in its tracks.
Being able to fight back against the indoctrination that's happening.
She started seeing this going on in our schools.
And, you know, she said, I don't really want my child to be raised by, you know, other teachers eight hours a day, and then he's got all his athletics after that.
You know, there's no time that I could then pour into him the life lessons that he needs to have to be able to be successful.
And so my mom made an incredible commitment, my mother and father, that they were going to raise me on Proverbs and push-ups.
You know, reading all throughout the Proverbs, getting the wisdom from the Holy Word of the Bible.
Uh, but also whenever you screwed up, you know, when it's your parents, they can make you do an ungodly amount of pushups.
And it's a, uh, my dad always used to say, if you're going to be dumb, you're going to be strong.
I love that so much.
And you were telling me too, your mom was able to fit in so many other lessons that kids that go through public school, kids that go through government school, you just don't get because your day is taken up by so much bureaucracy and shoving you through a certain cycle.
Now, can you share a few of those lessons that you learned thanks to your mom being so creative with what she incorporated in the curriculum?
Absolutely.
So one of the things that I loved the most about the way I grew up is that I feel like a lot of children who go through the government schools, they're taught to memorize.
You know, they memorize something, then they take a test on it, and then they forget it.
Whereas with me, I was taught to love to learn.
And so as I was moving forward with loving to learn, you know, my mother would teach me, we would pick a history lesson.
My mother was learning about the Romans or the Athenians or whatever it was.
And then we would study all about it.
And the way that she got us excited about it is that at the end of the year, you know, she would take us to go to Rome or to go to Athens.
And that's not possible for every single family, but I mean, she also, the way she taught me math was to go out and just hang out in the woods and stack up rocks and learn how to, uh, learn how to do multiplication tables.
And you learn so much by just actually doing things, uh, where everything's not bubble wrapped, where there's actually sharp edges, where you can fall off that tree.
And it was an incredible lifelong lesson that I'll never forget.
I love that so much.
And I think one of the trends that we're seeing in the country, we have a little bit of time left, I want to ask you, a lot of people are shocked by the generational change that we've seen between our parents' generation and our generation.
A lot of people look at us and they see 30-year-old children, right?
And people used to get married around these ages and they used to have babies these ages and they're more focused on parenting, but now you see people that are our age and they're still living at their parents' house.
And it's not a slight against them, but it's more so how can we get people excited that are our age about the next phase of life and what that can bring and really spark an interest in growing and building a family, building a home, getting property and taking ownership of your life.
I think the left loves the fact that we don't own things.
We aren't responsible for things greater than us.
And that really benefits them.
So I'm curious what you would have to say to all the Gen X or the Gen Zers, the millennials out there that are in the between phase.
Maybe they need someone to look up to, they need some guidance.
What would you want them to know about what's coming for them and how this isn't the end of their life just because they're going to have to grow up?
Well, number one, I would like to apologize to them.
They have been sold a scam.
I think the metric for success of good parenting to a lot of the Gen Xers who raised the Millennial generation was, can I get them to a four-year degree college?
And you know, the fact that an 18-year-old can't take out a $10,000 business loan, but can take out a $100,000 student loan, I think tells you everything you need to know.
Because when you take out that $100,000 student loan, you owe so much money to whichever lender you have that's federally guaranteed, that then you can never actually own a home.
You're an eternal renter.
And so I would say fight against that.
When you actually own the dirt that you live on, when you actually have children that you're raising to be able to raise the next generation, then you actually do give a damn about the financial security and validity of our country.
You actually do care about exactly what's going on in culture, what they're being taught in schools.
And then when you realize that this country is facing very true enemies in the form of the Communist Party in China, I love that.
Thank you so much and thank you for your time, Congressman.
We really appreciate it.
I learned a lot and I hope everybody out there did too.
We're not going to wait until we're 50 years old.
We're going to change it right now.
So I encourage all of you to take ownership of your life.
Thank you so much, and thank you for your time, Congressman.
We really appreciate it.
I learned a lot, and I hope everybody out there did too.
Thank you.
Thank you.
you you Being done with this second hour.
Yep.
Craziness.
That's right.
Yeah, we're already at the e-segment, which just flies by in an instant.
Thank you to the Rumble Rants people.
You guys are so nice.
They're loving the show.
Rumble Rants.
So it works.
It works.
Is that what it's called?
That's what it's called?
That is what the chat is called, yes.
Rumble Rants.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
It's interesting what you said, too, though.
You mentioned, like, you know, the idea, like, you know, kids, quote unquote, younger people are having kids, their own kids later and later in life.
You know, it's the whole mentality.
I have unironically heard it said to me by female friends of mine here in D.C.
Unironically, they'll say 30 is the new 20.
And I'm just like, oh, you've got to be kidding me.
Like, it's just that I think they say that I.
I have heard that, yes.
30 is the new 20?
Yes, that has been said.
Oh, honey.
What the heck?
It makes me so sad, but you're right.
This city contributes to that, especially because DC in particular emphasizes so heavily, you gotta do your career, you gotta build yourself up professionally, you gotta climb the ladder, so of course, don't worry about family, just build that resume as much as you can, and that's a part of it, obviously.
Aye yi yi.
Now, so you guys, so we have an upcoming just three minutes and then the next one's Connor Clegg?
Um, yes.
Yes.
That is correct.
Yes.
Clegg is the opening segment of the third hour.
That's correct.
And he's on Skype.
Gotcha.
Exciting.
Connor is like me.
Did I tell you he's the one that does the Freedom Papers podcast with me?
Yeah.
He's very sweet.
Oh, man.
I keep smacking that.
Just over a minute until we get back in.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
It was fantastic.
Thanks.
Because like Seb said, there is a lot of difference between radio and podcasting, and it's not for everybody, but you're doing a fine job.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
Almost 66% of the way done.
2 thirds.
It's okay, it'll fly by.
And of course it's the middle of the week, so.
Halfway point.
Pump day.
And of course it's the middle of the week.
Halfway point.
Something.
Alright, 30 seconds.
So, yep, I'll just count you in here.
Oh, the Rumble Rants.
Yes, I do a Freedom Papers podcast with Turning Point, and then my normal podcast is Some Sanity.
Yeah, go ahead.
But if you go to morganzeggers.com, you guys, the link is to both of those.
All right.
Got it.
Thank you.
Alright, welcome back!
You guys, we're already ending our second hour together.
This is crazy.
We have just a short segment before we head into the third hour, but I want to tee it up for you.
I am having my next guest be one of my close personal friends.
His name is Connor Clegg.
And basically, to describe him, he's like me, but man form when it comes to my political thoughts.
Okay?
So, it's very similar when both of us talk, but that's why it's so fun.
And I do it I talk with him a lot because I bring him onto my podcast that I have with Turning Point USA.
So if you go to tpusa.com slash Freedom Papers, you're going to be able to see probably one of the nerdiest, and by that I mean like history nerdiest, podcasts in existence.
But I'm telling you, no matter what, if you're a history nerd or not, you're going to need to listen to it.
Freedom Papers, what happened is Charlie and Tyler, the guys behind the scenes there, they had this idea of providing a resource on America's founding, specifically on the ratification debate surrounding the U.S.
Constitution.
And so they asked me if I would consider hosting a podcast for them starting this fall where I went through each of the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers from the ratification debates that happened in 1787 about the U.S.
Constitution.
And now I bring Connor on all the time to talk with me and it has gotten so exciting because everything that we face these days, everything we're going through, It all goes back to what our founders either anticipated because they looked at all of human history and they saw the trends that humans usually take, or it just, it always provides us a solution for what we are facing today.
So we can either look to the back, look to history to learn from it and not repeat it, or we can look to history to learn what the solution should be, what our founders intended us to do in these moments of tyranny, of authoritarianism.
So, I want to give you guys a quick little history of what the heck the ratification debate was, so then we can bring Connor in in the next segment and we can talk all about what's going on with this country and how we've abandoned federalism.
And it's not that our documents failed, it's that our politicians that we have elected for us have abandoned the founding principles and documents themselves.
That's the problem.
Okay?
So we'll get into that in a little bit, but in 1787, We had to start a new form of government.
We had tried the Articles of Confederation.
It just wasn't working, okay?
There wasn't an incentive for all of the little states, all the confederacies, whatever we wanted to call them.
They weren't cooperating enough.
And so the government, the politicians, our founders at the time, they wanted to retry a new form of government under the U.S. Constitution.
And they had to convince the American people state by state to vote to ratify the Constitution.
Some people wanted to, some people didn't.
So Hamilton, Madison, and John Jay got together and wrote 85 essays, releasing them into the local newspapers of New York City and other big cities.
And they did it to educate Americans on what the government was going to look like and why it'd be smart for us to form into a strong union.
It's wonderful to read each paper.
We do it on Freedom Papers.
And coming up next is my dear friend, Connor Clegg, and my fun co-host of the podcast.
So we're going to talk about that and what we're going to do to fix the problems in America by looking to the past.
See you soon.
Thank you.
Flags.
Mics are back on.
That's right, you did do the flags.
Must bring up my flags.
Must bring up my flags.
How much time do I have?
This is another six and a half minute break.
This is going into the third hour.
So we've got some time.
I'll be right back.
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...turns at the same time.
We are, okay, yes, perfect timing.
I'll dial up Mr. Clegg now.
Shut this channel.
Channel 2.
Oh, my little ear.
What happened to pedal?
Who's pedal?
Alright.
Hello, Connor, can you hear us?
Hey everybody, can you hear me?
Yes, we hear you.
Connor!
Hey, how are you?
Good, how are you?
Thanks for coming on.
Of course.
Just letting you know, the mics are live right now on our Rumble and Facebook broadcasts.
Oh, great.
Can they see us, Kevin?
Yeah, they can see you.
Oh, cool.
Hi, everybody.
Hello.
So we have about two minutes, 20 seconds before we go back on the radio.
Connor, thank you for doing this.
Sorry, I know you're on vacation.
Of course.
I don't take vacation.
I work for Charlie Kirk.
Oh, man, that's fun.
Okay, so I figured I would introduce you, and then I thought we could just kind of chit-chat about Freedom Papers.
Cool.
That works for me.
Promote it, make it a resource.
Oh, are we finally going to get some news here?
Fox News Chiron says, jury has reached a verdict in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial.
Finally some news!
It's been a very slow news cycle for like the last couple weeks.
Again, today, the start of the day, the biggest news was that Harry Reid died and now we got a... Let's see.
I mean, John Madden was big too yesterday.
Oh, that's right.
Again, I don't do sports, but yeah, I did see that shared around a bit.
That was very sad.
My dad was very sad about that.
Yeah, I know.
Heard that man's voice quite a bit.
What's it gonna be, Jon?
If she gets life in prison, what you say?
I say all the jurors disappear right before the verdict was going to be given.
They all miraculously suicide.
And so did Maxwell, and everyone's just gone.
Oh my goodness gracious.
The Maxwell jury did not kill itself.
It feels like forever since that happened.
I'm just putting it out there right now.
A simpler time, the pre-COVID times.
Alright, well we've got about 45 seconds.
We're going to do the rejoin to start.
Right now I'm just playing something.
I'm playing Dr. G. So it'll be music, him, and then you come in right after that and you can get crackin'.
No ad read?
Ad read is next segment, not this segment.
B, so yeah.
All right.
Don't judge a warrior princess by her size.
We're back to America First with Morgan Zeggers.
Oh man, he's quite funny, isn't he?
I think he did that just to make me blush on the screen, if you are watching.
He's so sweet.
You guys, this is Morgan Zegers.
I am guest hosting America First for Sebastian Gorka.
Dr. Gorka is out today.
I'm in today and I'm bringing my friends with me.
We're talking all about what the youth movement is up to in the conservative space.
We're working very hard day and night.
I can't tell you how late I see some of my friends staying at the office.
It's crazy.
And by that, I'm talking about Turning Point USA.
Now, the guy that I'm bringing on next, we just had a congressman, we just had Madison Cawthorn, oh my goodness, and he shared all about homeschooling and all about what we can do to prepare the next generation of patriots, but I have one of my closest friends, Connor Clegg, who is the producer for the Charlie Kirk show out of Arizona, where I currently live with Connor.
He's over there too.
And we're bringing him on because Connor also comes on as a guest for my history podcast called freedom papers.
That's produced by turning point USA.
So if you guys want to start tuning in, it's every Monday, a new episode, Tpusa.com slash Freedom Papers.
And I want to bring Connor on so that we can give you guys an idea of why we do this podcast.
It's so that we can learn what our founders were focusing on back when they wrote our Constitution and our documents.
And I can't tell you how important it is for us to understand this stuff now, especially as the radical left is trying to change our documents, trying to erase our history in this pivotal point in America.
We have to understand where we came from.
Connor Clegg understands that too.
Now, Connor, welcome to the show.
Okay, thank you for coming on.
Thank you for taking the time.
Of course, what an honor to be here.
Are you live from the Relief Factors studio?
I'm in New York City.
Can you believe it?
I'm in New York City of all places.
I never come here, but I came here for this show.
Yeah, no, I refuse to raise my family in a blue communist tyrannical state, but that is a topic for another day.
I'm thinking Montana, Wyoming, maybe Utah, Idaho, maybe Tennessee.
What are your thoughts?
I mean, Texas where I'm at right now.
Is a good option, but all of those sound really good too.
Montana's beautiful this time of year.
So I think you've got your head in the right spot.
Texas Hill Country.
I was there for a little bit last year and my home is there actually right now.
Now, Connor, you do a lot at Turning Point USA, but do you want to give us a little debrief on what the heck you do on a day-to-day basis?
Because you have quite an important job.
Sure.
Um, you know, look, I'm part of a larger team at the Charlie Kirk show, another I'm a member of the Salem Radio family.
I am the associate producer of that program.
We just got done for the year, actually.
Did our last broadcast of the year on the Charlie Kirk Show, recapping the absolute dumpster fire that was 2021.
So I spent the morning producing that, and that was a lot of fun, I gotta tell you.
There's a lot of things that happened this year that we forgot about.
I mean, man, let me tell you.
But I can get into that.
But no, I work for Charlie, and that means that we work 24-7, 365 at the most.
To save the country and let people know that this is a place worth fighting for.
America's our home and we're working our butts off every day at Turning Point USA and The Charlie Kirk Show and here on America First with Sebastian Gorka to protect our home.
So that's a little bit of what I do, I guess.
No, I love that and I can personally attest.
I mean, I can't tell you how many times it's been me leaving the studio and then you're over at your desk, one of the last people in the office.
You work so hard for him and I know Charlie works so hard as well.
Everybody at Turning Point does.
It's literally an office of young 20-somethings.
It's fascinating to see when you get there because they have such an impact on the country and they are all a bunch of young 20-somethings for the most part working incredibly hard.
A lot of people haven't even gone to college at Turning Point.
And that's what I love the most about it is we're proving that you don't need to get this crappy four-year degree that's totally empty.
But what we do at Turning Point and what we focus on, Connor, is freedom papers.
And I was explaining before you came on, before the break, that there was the 1787 ratification debate where some people wanted to form the federal government.
Some people didn't.
Some people did want to ratify the U.S. Constitution.
Constitution, others did not.
And so they tried to educate the population via these essays that were written and then released in the newspapers, hoping that the citizens, the voters, would read them, educate themselves, and then make the best decision for the country moving forward.
And what Publius, who was the pen name for Hamilton, Madison, and Jay in the Federalist Papers, was saying to the voters, he was saying, you are being entrusted with an incredibly important decision for mankind's future.
This is monumental.
And one of my favorite things, you know this, paper number two is one of my favorites because it says that the land of America – It says the land of America and the people of America were brought together by Providence.
I mean, the fertile soil, the navigable waters.
You can never get that one.
I mess it up every time on the podcast.
The water streams that you can travel through, let's just say that.
Everything that made this country full of opportunity Was combined with the people that deeply believed in this concept of government of by and for the people.
And if you bring those two things together, I mean, it couldn't be anything but Providence.
And that's what I really loved.
Now, the thing that I love the most, and I've told you this a million times, I've talked to you about this, is Charles Kessler's version of the Federalist Papers.
Now, I hope everybody out there listening buys this $7 book.
The answers are all in this $7 book, people.
You can go to Barnes & Noble and get it right now.
But, what he says is that when the Founders were writing the Federalist Papers, they were saying that the Constitution was a document worthy of the rational and enduring consent of an enlightened public.
And Connor, you know what I'm about to say.
I do not think we have an enlightened public anymore.
And that is what is happening here.
Our government was created to represent the people of the country.
Our leaders are supposed to be representatives of this population, and I think our population is mentally, physically, morally weak right now.
And I'll just Let's hand it over to you now because I've done my rant now.
What are your first thoughts on Freedom Papers and the ratification debate and what everybody is saying these days about our government failing us?
That was great.
I can tell you one thing for certain.
No, of course you're right.
And it pains me to say this because I love my country and I love my fellow countrymen, obviously, but man, are we stupid.
I mean, most of us, at least the majority, at least that's what we're told.
81 million people voted for Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., a man who was in government for 48 years and did absolutely nothing.
Except possibly sexually assault one of his staffers?
I don't know.
Remember Tara Reid?
We don't talk about that anymore, do we?
No, I mean, anyone who would vote for Joe Biden after just his totally lackluster and unimpressive career, after hearing what we heard about Hunter Biden, after watching his non-campaign from the basement with his little circles, do you remember the Biden circles?
I mean, yeah, of course, we are no longer an enlightened country.
Now, we can get back to that because I'm watching The progress that we've made over the past year, and I'm watching people start to rise up by the masses.
Moms and dads going to school board meetings, you know?
Folks saying, screw you, I'm not going to put on a mask.
I'm not going to take this mandatory experimental drug, this vaccine, quote unquote, that you're trying to put into me.
No, I'm not going to do it.
I'm going to stand up for my bodily autonomy.
It's my God-given right.
Our founders knew that, and I'm thinking, Morgan, and I think that the work that we do at Turning Point USA and on The Charlie Kirk Show, is helping guide people to this conclusion is that it's time that we get back to the basics.
Let's try and reclaim and refine the America that we grew up in because it's worth reclaiming.
And if we can do that, then we'll have a future.
But if we keep going on the path that we've been going on for the past year, gee whiz, I don't know where we're going to end up, man, but it's not going to be good.
We've got to wake up and put our pedal to the metal and get this old senile man, if you can call him that, out of office.
Yeah, no, and I actually was really excited because you and I have talked about this a lot of the balance of power.
I mean, one of the most important things our founders learned when they looked to all of the countries that have attempted governments of by and for the people in the past, like ancient Rome, ancient Greece, all of these attempts and why they failed.
They looked at them and they said a lot of it was because of the balance of power or the lack thereof and the lack of checks on each other between the branches, between the The groups of power that existed in the government.
And what we have here in America is so important.
But it's gotten to this point, I would say, Connor, would you agree?
Because the people are so uneducated about the structure of government, and that all leads, of course, to the failure of the education system.
We have no idea what our government structure looks like.
We have no idea what federalism is.
And so then when we hear an executive mandate come down from the massive bureaucracy that our executive branch has become, We say, well, I guess we just have to listen to whatever the president tells us to do now because we forget that we have power.
And we're going to have to bring you back for the next section after this break.
But I just want to close off on this.
It's incredibly frustrating that the people of America have forgotten that they also provide a check and balance on power and the powers that are in our state government, our local government, our federal government.
We're starting to wake up.
But at the end of the day, the people have forgotten.
And I don't just mean the citizens.
I mean the people in our law enforcement.
I mean, I just saw some kid got kicked out of, what, a pizzeria because he's eating in New York City, where I am right now, without having his fax card.
What were those policemen doing?
They forgot that they're intended to be a check on the power that is unconstitutional.
I will see you guys after the break, and we will get more into this situation where we've abandoned our Constitution.
Thanks for tuning in.
I don't know.
That's more of a sports term.
Mike.
We can break some news for the folks on the live stream.
Elaine Maxwell was found guilty on five of six counts, it looks like.
Oh, I see it on the screen now.
Yep, up to 60 years in prison.
Wow.
Very interesting.
She'll be there for six months before she kills herself.
She gets killed herself.
Before she gets, what is it, Epstein'd?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two bullets in the back of the head.
Gets suicided.
Aw, man.
Okay, well, I guess.
And so how do you, Ghislaine?
Is that how it's pronounced?
I have no clue.
People say it in such... Is it Ghislaine or Jislaine?
I say Jislaine.
Was the two of her.
Alex Clark at, um, Poplitics at Turning Point.
She runs, like, the pop culture show.
She always says it in a funny way, and I thought that that's how it was said.
And I said, Alex, you need to stop, because I trusted you.
Gillian.
I trusted you.
And it turns out she was saying it in a joke way.
The whole time.
Like, good thing I didn't go on Newsmax or something and actually use that.
Gillian Mackler.
I trusted you.
Okay.
No, but, I mean, that's good.
It's nice to see justice.
It's just, this is, like, the least amount of justice that could have possibly been achieved, so.
Two and a half minutes.
Our justice system works so well for us.
A hair of justice.
I trust it so much.
How long is our next segment?
It's going to be nine minutes.
Oh yes, you are correct.
Yeah, that was A we just got done with.
So that'll be nine minutes, and we're doing a Stand with Israel read before.
Oh!
Right when we get in.
Oh, this is the one that I had to change away from Gorka's.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because it's in first person.
And I had to try and write it.
So bear with me, chat.
Bear with me, Rumble Rants.
Bear with me.
I still can't believe it.
Connor, are you good with a nine minute thing?
Yeah, of course.
Do you want us to reconnect on Skype real quick?
We're getting some lip-syncing issues on your end, Connor.
Sure, let's do it.
Do you want me to hang up, or you got it?
I'll hang up.
And calling back.
The guest's microphone has static.
Can we fix that, by the way?
That is something on his... Yeah, it's something on his microphone.
Alright, we have you again, Connor.
I'm sorry, guys.
Can you hear us, Connor?
Hello?
Yes, can you hear us?
Hello, hello, hello, Connor?
It appears he cannot hear us for some reason.
We've got a minute.
Connor, hello?
I'm not hearing anybody.
I don't know if that's intentional.
We may have to... Shoot.
I have his phone number.
I can switch the phone if necessary.
Let me try dialing back one more time.
It was working just fine last segment.
Although, yeah, the audio was definitely... The chat was mentioning that, yeah.
Yeah, it was something on his, I think his microphone.
Uh, it's ringing.
Uh, ringing still.
Oh, shoot.
30 seconds?
He's not picking up.
Okay, we may have to switch to phone then.
Okay, let me know.
All right, yeah, we gotta start the second.
I'll call him up.
Okay, we've got 20 seconds.
We're going to do that.
We're going to do that.
We're going to do that.
His music is so fun.
I love it.
You guys, welcome back to America First with Sebastian Gorka.
He's out today and so I am filling in for Dr. Gorka.
My name is Morgan Zeggers and I run the non-profit Young Americans Against Socialism.
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All right.
Now, do we have my friend Connor Clegg or are we having some trouble behind the scenes getting him on? - Yeah.
I think we've got it.
I'm going to just continue on now.
Like I was saying to everybody out there, I do a weekly educational historical podcast with Turning Point USA.
If you go to tpusa.com slash Freedom Papers, you're going to be able to look at the new episodes every Monday that Connor usually guest hosts on with me, but usually I have either a constitutional expert or a lawyer or a politician.
We've had three members now of the House Freedom Caucus.
Congressman Madison Cawthorn was just telling us about the great work that they do.
We've had a ton of great guests.
Connor comes on quite a lot with me.
So Connor, welcome back and let's get right into it.
I want to hear your thoughts.
A lot of the young people these days on our side and some of the people of the older generations have completely forgotten or never got the proper education on our structure of government.
What do you see playing out because of that, especially as we see the radical left rise up saying we need to get rid of things like the filibuster, we gotta pack the court, we have to get rid of the Electoral College, all of the protections, and I even saw yesterday a rewrite of the Second Amendment.
Did you see that?
That was going viral?
I did.
That was insane.
I can tell you this.
You're completely correct that not enough people of our age have any idea on the beauty that is the American system.
It was constructed by geniuses and, you know, the federalist system that we live in right now to give states the power to govern themselves is absolute genius.
Something that had really never been tried before in the way that we do it here in America.
And I'm glad that after 81 years and about, what, 11 months in office, Joe Biden has also discovered the federalist system.
He said, what, two days ago, that there is no federal solution to the pandemic.
So we have a renewed, hardened Federalist in the Oval Office again.
So that's excellent.
That's really good to hear.
No, but I think that over the past year or the past two years, actually, of this pandemic that we've been living through, it's only gotten worse, too.
The folks who are growing up right now, the ones that are going to school or who are just now getting back into the classrooms and, you know, have been brought up wearing masks all the time and believe that mandatory vaccines are just a way of life.
They're going to be the most obedient generation, I think, in my opinion.
Now, I know you have a different opinion on this, that maybe they end up being the most rebellious generation, and I'm praying for that every single day.
I go back and forth, Connor.
Right.
I wish that I knew the answer to that, but I think just watching them and listening to them and interacting with them as much as I do, I think they're going to end up being pretty dang obedient if we don't start to kind of grab them and shake them, because at the end of the day, that's what you have to do.
Can I tell you a really quick story, actually?
This is really interesting.
I was getting in an Uber to head to Texas two nights ago, and it was like four in the morning, and I normally hate when Uber drivers want to talk to you, because they never really have anything that impressive to say or whatever.
Fine.
But it was four in the morning, so I was feeling especially grumpy, and I get in the car, and the fellow who was driving isn't wearing a mask.
So I'm like, okay, fine.
This will be great.
Whatever.
And then he starts talking, and then he said, man, I noticed you weren't wearing a mask either.
Good for you.
And I'm like, really?
And he's a young kid.
He couldn't have been any more than 21 years old.
He's a black kid.
Not that that really matters, but it's really exciting to see that they're waking up.
And he said, look, all these people are listening to Fauci all the time.
I listen to my faith.
He said, I listen to my faith.
And I'm like, good for you, man.
So maybe we need more Uber drivers like that.
Maybe we need more young men who are willing to stand up and say, screw you, Dr. Fauci.
Screw you, Joe Biden.
I'm not wearing a mask.
I'm not taking your jab.
That gave me a lot of hope.
And going into 2022, I'm hoping that we start to learn more about what makes this country great and appreciate it again, because it's worth admiring and it's worth living up to the standards, to the aspirations that the founders laid out for us.
Yeah, no, and I've got to say I'm really excited that you met him.
That's really promising.
He's awesome.
I don't know if I've told you, I share a lot of this with especially the people at Turning Point, but there's a study from Michigan State University, and I can't remember if I've told you about it, Connor, where it said the most effective way to change a young person's mind, a young person's point of view on a hard-to-understand topic, or an opposing viewpoint, it was actually hearing it via peer, not via parent or professor.
And so I find so much inspiration in that, whether it's teaching them about the founding or teaching them about the dangers of socialism and communism, or what I see this as and what I use my social media as I know you kind of do the same is to show them and normalize this lifestyle where we embrace community, we embrace or what I see this as and what I use my social Educating ourselves.
We embrace an active and intentional lifestyle where we're appreciative of what America provides us.
And also just living out those conservative vibes.
I mean supporting family, supporting children, supporting believing and growing those things instead of feeling like we're always just going to remain children into our 40s.
That seems to be the stereotype of our generation these days and I really appreciate that you would do that too.
Do you see that trend in our generation and do you think we're on the up and up or do you think it's going pretty bad?
I always try to be the optimist, the eternal optimist, and I think that has served our country well whenever you have people in the fight who are optimistic about our future.
One of the most damaging things I think that ever happened, you brought up the study that says that peer-to-peer kind of transmission of facts and information and stuff like that is the most effective.
I'll tell you another thing that's really effective is relating to people on a personal level and not trying to drown them out with You know, these droning long diatribes about facts and data and statistics and stuff.
The conservative movement a few years back kind of really embraced this idea that facts don't care about your feelings or whatever.
And I think that was incredibly dangerous for us to do.
And we're finally getting away from it.
Because at the end of the day, the people who live by feelings, they don't care about our facts, right?
We can tell you all day long that the masks don't work and that the vaccines are causing issues, but they don't give a damn.
What I'm noticing in our movement in terms of how we message to people, it's becoming softer, it's becoming more interpersonal, it's becoming more communicative, and there's a higher emphasis on storytelling and relatability.
And I think that goes back to the study you were talking about from Michigan State.
That's how we bring people over to our side.
We're not going to convince them that we're right because we give them the best data or the best numbers.
No, we have to reach these people in their hearts.
We have to engage their gut.
And make them know that like, hey, maybe he's onto something.
Like that looks like, it looks like it's a lot more fun to breathe freely and take this day.
Absolutely.
Right.
Well, I mean, young people.
Yeah, I mean young people for generations have been the rebellious ones, the power to the people, stick it to the man kind of thing, and then for some reason our generation is embracing authoritarianism.
So we just have to wake them up a little bit, and I think we're going to keep doing that.
But you guys go to tpusa.com slash freedompapers to hear the podcast with Connor and I where we try and enlighten our generation.
We'll see you next time.
All right.
Mic's on.
All right.
Connor, thank you so much for joining.
I appreciate it a lot.
Thank you, Morgan.
Thanks for having me.
Y'all keep up the good work and have fun and have a happy new year.
Thank you so much.
much happy new year thanks for taking the time bye yeah all right and all right and that is it for guests then today um we just have three more segments so we will do a disclaimer here and then you'll have a read in the d block for prison fellowship again Final Prison Fellowship.
Yes.
Yes.
Make sure to- Wait, am I doing- Disclaimer here.
What'd you say here?
Just a disclaimer.
Just a disclaimer, so you're not reading anything.
You're good.
And the next segment is the final.
Yes.
Okay, should I take questions or something at the end or anything?
If you want, there's- This seems too difficult.
We have a caller waiting.
I think, do you still have the call sheet in front of you?
Has that been updated?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Ken Arizona.
Glad you're doing this one, Boomer.
Gen Z is dying off.
People are like, you're the one to save the country now.
Should I have him come on?
If that's not a... If you want, yes.
Yeah, whenever you want.
It's all up to you.
If you and you've got time, you're good to go.
Let's have him come on.
Let's see how it goes.
Awesome.
I feel bad.
Was he waiting a long time?
Do they wait on the phone the whole time?
Yeah, callers wait, but that is at their part.
Oh my gosh.
Can you tell I haven't done radio before?
No worries.
Do they just wait there?
Patience is virtue.
That's really sweet.
Two minutes.
Okay.
All right. - All right.
Yes.
So we're in the back half of the last hour already.
All right.
Blitzed through all the guests and most of the reads.
We're still chugging.
We're still live.
I make the weirdest faces on this thing.
I've got to remember that that is on.
I have the live on my phone. - 12, 29.
First time doing radio and you do three hours.
Yeah, that was just two.
Okay.
Yeah, one minute.
First time doing radio and you do three hours.
That's kind of electric.
Exciting.
I think I'm going to do a second on my flags.
All right.
Just over 30 seconds.
Yep.
Coming in with a disclaimer, and you're coming in right after that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Stand With Israel Tour.
All right, you guys, welcome back.
Sorry I get so distracted by the really fun music.
Oh my goodness!
Now, I have a special little topic I want to talk about with you guys because I personally think we're going through an American cultural revolution.
Now, if you haven't noticed yet, I'm kind of a radical.
And by radical, I mean a totally normal person in America, but apparently I'm like a domestic terrorist to these crazy lefties.
that want to, how do I say this, make us look bad and then remove us from the public square, remove us from our positions of power.
And they do that by removing our legitimacy.
Now, that's a whole thing.
But first, I have a fun caller who's waiting, Ken from Arizona, and I want to bring him in.
Ken, thank you so much for waiting.
I appreciate it.
Hi, Morgan.
I'm a 72 year old baby boomer and my generation is dying off.
So America's going to be saved It's going to be you and thousands like you that get the information out to Gen X, Z, and the Millennials.
And by the way, be confident in your ability because you're doing a great job.
You've kept my interest the whole program.
Thank you so much, Ken.
I appreciate it.
I mean, we're really trying.
And what I loved, I shared with Connor, I hope you heard, is that the most effective way to reach young people with this really hard-to-understand stuff is hearing it via peer.
So I try and explain history and politics and government and everything that young people aren't getting in the school system.
But thank you for saying that.
I appreciate it.
My conversations locally have been people complain about gas and food, and then I use it as an opportunity to explain about the devalued dollar and why they're paying more, and then refer them to Freedom Square, AMAC, and Patriot Mobile.
And I really love Freedom Square because it's a smorgasbord of everything conservative.
It is.
It is.
And actually, Dr. Gorka is a big supporter.
I'm a big supporter of Freedom Square.
And if you guys look me up, Morgan Zegger is on freedomsquare.com.
All of my podcasting, all of my media shows up.
So I really appreciate it because everybody listening out there, I'm not a crazy person, you know what I mean?
I'm a normal conservative.
young lady.
And even I get censored on Facebook.
Even I've had my stuff demonetized.
And what I do with my nonprofit, Young Americans Against Socialism, and again, you can go to fightsocialism.org for that information.
We interview survivors of socialist and communist countries.
And I can't tell you how frustrating it is when I interview someone who explains what it was like to escape a Chinese communist labor camp or slave camp, and it gets demonetized by Facebook.
And then they cite some communist Chinese news propaganda source as the reason for why we're apparently spreading fake news.
And then we get demonetized for trying to spread this firsthand testimony.
It's really, really frustrating, and I want everybody out there to understand normal people like me that are saying normal things are also getting attacked by big tech censorship.
This isn't just them attacking, you know, the Nazis as they claim, the evil radicals as they claim.
They're doing this to everybody, and if they could do it to someone like me, they could do it to someone like you.
So thank you, Ken, for noticing that.
I appreciate it.
For a 25-year-old conservative, I'm impressed with you.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much.
And you guys, I have one little ask to make.
So when I went to college, I was told by my guidance counselor, when I told her that I couldn't afford a fourth year, that, are you sure you don't want to stay for a fourth year?
You really become the person you're meant to be in your fourth year of college.
And I looked at her and I said, what a scam is this?
Or at least I thought that in my head.
Because college is just there to take your money.
Now I made the best decisions I could with scholarship and with help.
Everything that I could to make sure that I wasn't going to end up like the rest of my generation with tons of debt.
But what I did specifically to get myself out of this problem was I started a small business called Zegger's Freedom Flags.
I make wooden American flags.
If you watch the video version of Dr. Gorka's show, America First, and you watch the guest section, If you see that wooden flag that's behind the guests on the screen, that's actually one of the flags for my workshop.
It's how I paid off my student loans by learning how to make these by hand.
I used to hand dremel the stars.
It took me hours to do each flag.
I would do it with a little dremel and stencil them all out, all 50 of them, but of course now I have a nice CNC machine because we've really expanded over the years.
But if you go to zeggersfreedomflags.shop, Then you can get a flag made by me.
I will sign them if you want.
I'll do whatever.
But we make a ton of really beautiful flags.
My family and I do.
And we would just really appreciate if we could have your support.
I think we're going through an American cultural revolution these days.
And it's so incredibly sad to see.
But what that means is that the left is removing every aspect of celebrating American culture.
We saw this with the removal of the four olds in Communist China when they had the cultural revolution there.
And I swear, I think we're having that in America today.
They're not only changing history curriculum in our classrooms, but they're also removing the names of our founders on schools.
They are removing the statues of our founders.
They've tried to blow up Mount Rushmore.
Antifa had this whole plan to attack Mount Rushmore one time.
And I've even seen an article from crazy lefties saying that apple pie is racist.
You can't stop these lefties when it comes to them attacking America, but what you can do is preserve our heritage and support things like our flags.
Hang them in your home.
So if you go to zeggersfreedomflags.shop, I would really appreciate if you guys all went and got yourself a flag for your home.
Show that American pride.
Thanks so much.
Thank you.
I was racist.
It's a whole article.
I actually, if you look up, probably just look up Morgan Zegger's apple pie.
Oh, it's not on.
The mics are on.
Yeah, they're back on.
Okay.
So if you look up Morgan Zegger's apple pie, maybe the episode will show up.
But I read the full article and it basically said the gingham cloth that the apple pie sits on is racist because it's cotton.
And then they said that the sugar on the crust of the apple pie is from Haiti connected to slavery.
And then they said that the apples aren't even American because they're from Asia 4,000 years ago.
And then they said Johnny Appleseed was a colonizer and would plant apple trees after he would take over the native civilizations.
And then they said that the recipe wasn't even American because, you know, apple pie is technically like a makeshift pumpkin pie spice combination and so that's not even American either.
And it's just, it seems so much like communist China.
Is it just me or what?
What charge did she get off on?
Um, what was the one?
I think it was enticing a minor, I think.
Right?
That was the one.
I don't know how you can... Look, we have a bunch of different size flags, but they all range in prices.
But we have, like, a small two-footer, and Dr. Gorka, this is funny, he wants a five-foot-tall flag for me.
I'm five feet tall!
It's gonna be my height!
I've never done it before.
But I said, I'll try.
I think if our CNC machine could fit the union, we could make it happen.
Right.
Alright, we've got two minutes.
Yeah, I don't... Does everything have to be from America for it to be American?
Because I don't think most of the people are... I mean... Hey, is this some kind of like a philosophical question here?
Like I'm... Wait.
I'm a little confused by the premise, John.
Oh no, she just explained how they said that all the ingredients to apple pie were racist.
But it's like, just because it's not from America doesn't mean it's not American.
It's kind of against all our, you know, principles.
We're a nation of ideas, not a nation of, you know, nationality.
Exactly.
But... Zegger's freedom flags.
80 seconds.
Okay, am I reading anything?
You are!
This is the final Angel Tree, right?
Yes.
The final Prison Fellowship.
Oh, and this is the last one?
This is the last read.
Can you believe it?
You did one for the Job Creators Network, and yeah.
So you have, this is the third and final Angel Tree.
I accidentally exited out.
Risky!
Penultimate segment, and then we are...
Yeah, and then you have to have your big sign-off.
Oh, man.
I'm just going to be like, bye.
See you next time.
Please give me a five-star review.
See you tomorrow.
Please tell Dr. Gorka I did not mess up too much.
4.78 stars.
Did you guys know, I found out I have a wiki feat.
I did not realize I was cool enough to have one of those, but I have one of them, and I have like a 4.5 star out of 5 star review, so...
Okay.
How...
All right, guys.
I can't believe the show's almost ending.
I'm kind of sad and sentimental about it.
But I'm just so thankful for Dr. Gorka for letting me fill in for him while he's gone.
Again, this is Morgan Zegers with Young Americans Against Socialism.
Dr. Gorka wanted me to remind you of a startling statistic.
Nearly 1 third, 31% of all annual charitable giving occurs in December and about 12% of all giving occurs in the last 3 days of each year.
So that means that right now we are in that 3 day window when Americans just like you are planning year end giving And, ding ding ding, looking for tax deductions.
I know I am, right?
Now, all of us here on America First have told you all month about the awesome work of the non-profit Prison Fellowship.
It's the Angel Tree People, but they plan a ton of stuff that's coming up in 2022 to help prisoners' children.
We've left the Prison Fellowship banner up at the top of the homepage on SebGorka.com, You can still grab a great year-end tax deduction and help make an eternal change in prisoners' lives with your tax-deductible gift to our friends at the Nonprofit Prison Fellowship.
Just go to SebGorka.com and click on the angel tree banner at the top of the page.
But you gotta hurry because your online gift at SebGorka.com must be posted before 12 a.m.
midnight on Friday to get credited to this current tax year.
Race over to SebGorka.com and please click on the angel tree banner.
Remember, your year-end gift today will help share the gospel with prisoners, ex-prisoners, and their children all year long.
It's a great investment in a better America as we head into 2022.
And that's the goal, right?
To better and then preserve that great America.
All right, now let's get on into it.
I heard we have another caller.
I'm excited about this.
You guys, do we have that caller?
Can we bring him on?
Kevin from Fairfax.
Oh, I'm so excited.
Kevin, come on in.
Hi.
Two items.
Your Army officer father, is he an Airborne Ranger?
No, he's not.
Okay, 10th Mountain Division, though?
Yes.
Good for him.
All right, second item.
I was up on the Heritage Foundation website last night, and I pulled up the three-hour program, Communism's Dark Tyranny, 8th December, hosted by Mrs. Gorka.
You did a fantastic job holding your own there with Mike Gonzalez and that man from Lithuania.
You did a great job.
I just say, keep up the good work.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so, so much.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, I mean, Dr. Gorka, once I got connected to him, then I was connected to his wife, who is her own powerhouse.
I mean, she's amazing over there at Heritage, and she led that event.
It was an event for the 30th anniversary of the fall of the USSR.
Which happened on December 26 which is also my birthday so that was just a couple days ago and they invited me to speak on it and I'm really excited because I'm going down to Georgia as well to speak about China on a panel for the Heritage Foundation's family conference that's happening I think on January 7th through 9th so you guys should definitely look that up if you haven't yet maybe it's on Heritage's website but thank you so much Kevin I appreciate it and I love what Heritage does
I think there's a lot to be done in the future, and that's kind of what I want to talk about now.
Heritage is working on it.
A ton of people are working on it.
And, of course, I mean education reform.
Thank you so much, Kevin.
Yep.
Have a great day.
Now, you guys, I mentioned a nice little segue thanks to Kevin that I want to talk about education reform as we round out the last section of this three-hour show.
I can't believe the three hours flew by this fast.
But a lot of people look to me and they want solutions.
I totally understand that conservatives can get in the weeds of making fun of the radical lefties.
We can make fun of the woke lefties.
We can make fun of the naive young people that say some really ridiculous stuff, but at the end of the day, it's not funny because when these people gain power, bad things happen.
And that's the big lesson of the 20th century.
So for me, I take my job very seriously, whether I'm working for my nonprofit, Young Americans Against Socialism, interviewing survivors from the 20th century who experienced socialism and communism firsthand because we need to learn from their stories to not repeat it, or whether I'm just making my flags in my workshop because I love to preserve American heritage.
And again, you can get a flag at zegersfreedomflags.shop.
It's handmade by me.
My mom works for the business now, too.
My dad, who's a colonel, does it on the side as well.
But we all as a family love making those American flags that then hang in your home or your office or your workshop, whatever you want to do.
But I take my job very seriously when it comes to understanding and protecting the future of this country.
And I want you to do this too.
I want you to rethink your role in not only community and leadership, but specifically in education, whether it's the education of your children or the community around you's children.
We have to think in a community sense.
So when we look at the craziness of today, I know I don't even have a boyfriend yet, but I love talking about how excited I am to one day have babies and then one day not send them to government school.
I will not be sending my children to government school.
I'm excited to homeschool them.
I cannot wait.
And I can't tell you how many of my friends out there who are also young, single girls in their early 20s who are excited as well to not send their kids to government school.
We want to take power back from the government, specifically the federal government.
And doing that, educating our own children and taking leadership in that role is one of the best ways to take power away from government.
But when we look at this, I swear, it's too selfish for us to look at our own unique situation and say, well, as long as I can homeschool my kids, I'm fine.
Who cares about the rest of them?
I challenge you guys to think bigger than that one avenue.
Not only is it important for us to protect our own children and homeschool our kids or get them into a charter school or a private school if we can afford it or if there is a grant, whatever it may be, but we have to think bigger.
And by that I mean we have to also focus on achieving school choice at a state level for as many states, as many children in those states, as possible.
The radical left wants all of our children to be forced through the public education system, the government school system, and it's the worst thing we can do for our nation's future leaders.
We must get our kids out of government school as best as we can as the left is fighting to make them stay there.
And not only that, but we see these weird vaccination mandates in states like California where they want to force vaccines on our kids in order to go to public school.
So the big ask that I have for you is to not only focus on how you can get your kid out of government school, but also focus on making sure all students, all kids in our country have school choice, access to private and charter schools, access to homeschooling, and And then this is the big one.
We have to understand not everyone can get their kids out of the system.
We have to understand public school is not just something we can completely eliminate, okay?
But what we can do is work on curriculum reform.
Let's take control of the public education system by completely upending the curriculum and giving a bigger focus to history, economics, government, and all the good stuff that's currently missing.
See you in the next section.
See you in the next section.
- Hard.
Mike's back on.
We have one more call on the line.
Do you want to take one more call or just close out?
Sure.
Okay, let me feel them real quick.
Yeah, coming quickly.
I'm going to do a disclaimer here.
Then you can go in and if you want to take the call, take the call.
If you don't, don't.
And then you've got sort of two, three minutes to wrap up depending on if you take the call or not.
Okay.
And that's it.
And that's three hours of nationwide syndicated radio done.
So exciting.
Thanks guys for all your help.
Oh yeah!
Do you think it is possible to redirect property taxes away from schools to private schools?
Okay.
Alright, I'll put you on hold and see if we can get you on the air.
Please stand by.
Thanks for calling in.
No problem.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright, and I'll go ahead and block the lines.
Okay.
So we've got Eric in New York on the line.
The call sheet has been updated.
Okay, so only three minutes left?
Only three minutes.
Aww, I'm so booshital.
I know.
Aww.
Aww.
The best part is you get here and it's like, oh wait, what happened to the other three hours?
Where did it go?
Yeah.
I know, jeez.
Like, look under my seat, like, where did those three hours go?
Well, I don't know if you guys saw, I don't know if Jeff is there and can hear this, but I thought they were only giving me an hour because I was like, they would never give me the full three hours.
I'm not cool enough for that.
And then very recently I thought it was the full three hours.
I was like, oh, well I could do that, but thank you for this honor.
Oh, of course.
Happy to do it.
And of course, you heard, three hours.
Gotta get my extra caffeine doses, gotta get ready to stay up for the three hours.
No, that's the nice thing about being a midday show.
It's not like it's one of the later shows or the really early morning shows.
It's right in the middle of the day, so it makes it easier for energy expenditures.
It's also great for breaking news too.
Thank you to the Rumble Rants people.
You guys are so nice.
They are loving you.
They're loving the show.
They're so nice.
I'm just going to read Rumble Rants to feel better about myself all the time.
Whenever I need a compliment.
I feel better already.
Got the disclaimer ready to go.
We're about 30 seconds out.
We've got Eric from New York on the line, and we'll play some fun, loud music to bring you in and out with.
Thank you.
Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Prison Fellowship. - Yeah.
All right, you guys, we are wrapping it up.
Oh my goodness, that was the shortest three hours of my life, but it was a total honor to get to guest host America First while Sebastian Gorka, Dr. Gorka, was out.
Thank you so much, Dr. Gorka, for letting me do this, and thank you everyone for tuning in.
I really appreciate it.
Now, I want to really quickly bring in Eric from New York City for one last call.
Eric, are you there?
Hi, Morgan.
How you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
Good, good.
First of all, I want to say thank you because I bought one of your freedom flags and I love it.
Gave it to my family for Christmas.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
I have a quick question about education reform.
Okay.
Do you think there's any way that we can somehow direct our property taxes, instead of going to public schools, to a school of our choice for our children, say a private school or a Catholic school?
Oh, I mean, I definitely think that that is the future.
It's what we should be working towards so that our tax dollars follow our children instead of them just getting funneled into a public school that's slowly declining as we pull our kids out of it.
Because I do see the future of education as getting out of public school.
But I think the biggest thing that we have to achieve first is just awareness.
Most people are just stuck in dangerous complacency mode.
Where they think, you know what, I'm going to send my kid on the school bus every day to government school.
They're going to come back a great person.
And what's happening is a total breakdown between that moment we put him on the bus and we've sent him to school.
And so that's really building the awareness of the problem is the first step.
And I think COVID, the Zoom schools where we're getting exposed to all this sexualized content All of this wrong history curriculum that's happening.
This is the first step that's needed and then we can talk about divvying tax revenue away from the public school system.
But thank you, Eric, so much.
And you guys, I only have a little bit of time left, but a lot of people are reaching out.
I'm seeing in the chat, if you want to look at any of my podcasts or my work, you can go to MorganZeggers.com and it'll link you to my Zeggers Freedom Flags, the flags that I make, the wooden American flags that are in my workshop where you can buy one.
It'll link you to my Turning Point USA podcast, and it'll link you to my Young Americans Against Socialism nonprofit, where we interview survivors.
And we also have a podcast called The Freedom Guide, where we talk all about solutions and step-by-step action items that we can all implement in our own lives.
But thank you guys so much.
I really appreciate it.
And again, go to zeggersfreedomflags.shop if you want an American flag made by me and my family.
And I just have one ask for you guys.
The best thing we can all do to fix this country, to move this country forward, is to first better ourselves.
I mentioned earlier that this country was made to be a representation of its population, and I think that's what's coming true right now.
The problem is that we are a weak, whether that's physically, morally, emotionally, or mentally, weak population.
And the best thing we can do is improve ourselves so that stronger individuals can make those strong families that are needed for the strong communities.
And that will lead to a stronger America once more.
This all starts in the home.
This all starts with us.
And the more we fight back on an individual and community level, we'll be able to take power away from DC.
That's the goal here, right?
But thank you so much and thank you Dr. Gorka for letting me guest host America First!
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