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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: MTG calls Mitch McConnell Biden's bitch

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	For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for unvaccinated.
	For themselves, their families, and the hospital where they'll soon overwhelm.
	But, there's good news.
	If you're vaccinated, you have your booster shot, you're protected from severe illness and death.
	Is that why you're wearing a mask?
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is American First and Salem Radio Network.
	Happy Friday to everyone!
	Today it's gonna be a rollercoaster ride.
	It is gonna be amazing guest after amazing guest.
	We have so much to share with you.
	From the craziness that is the political world today, we will be joined by none other than Beau Snerdley, the man behind the Rush microphone, who helped Rush Limbaugh become the incredible phenomena he was for all Americans, and who made radio shows like this one possible.
	My former White House colleague, Boris the Baron Epstein.
	For Second Amendment Friday, we're going to have three guests.
	Ever.
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	We're going to have Jim Fuller, formerly of Rifle Dynamics, one of the preeminent experts on custom AKs in America.
	Travis Haley, a man who, if you are in the Military training, strategic training world needs no introduction.
	And the man who, I probably shouldn't say this in front of him, is known as Gun Jesus on YouTube, Ian McCullen, the man behind Forgotten Weapons, probably the most successful gun site out there.
	Then General Rob Spalding, my former White House colleague from the National Security Council on the rising threat of China and on the threat of big tech here in America, Cara Frederick.
	We opened with that audio yesterday of a muffled senile old man in the White House telling us how, you better get ready.
	Fear.
	Be afraid.
	Lots of deaths.
	The winter, it's going to be awful.
	For the unvaccinated, it will be a winter of severe illness and death.
	Why?
	I had a strange thought this morning.
	I, you know, I prepare for this show by walking my dogs, and I'm listening to radio, I'm checking social media before and after.
	If the Omicron variant is the least lethal of all to date, which it seems to be, the least lethal, you know, yes, it spreads more.
	Okay, so what?
	So what?
	If it doesn't kill people, why are so many so afraid?
	Can somebody just explain that to me?
	If this is the least dangerous variant, why the fear?
	There was a video.
	I think I... Did I send you?
	No.
	Gotta find this video that I posted yesterday.
	It's an elderly couple, by the looks of it, by the lack of speed in their gate, entering a hotel.
	Let's find it.
	It should be my social media feeds.
	Have a look for it, Eric.
	See if you can find it.
	I think John, our video, may even posted it for me last night.
	Walking down a sidewalk into a hotel, and they're wearing Full smoke hoods.
	You know the smoke hoods that the stewardesses are issued?
	Yeah, stewardesses on airplanes.
	If there's a fire you get your little oxygen mask that pops down from the ceiling and you get your little life jacket.
	But the stewardesses, the staff, the crew on a plane get smoke hoods that allow them to navigate and aid you in exiting the crashed or downed airplane.
	This couple We're wearing see-through hoods with a hose coming out to some kind of filtration system they were wearing on their backs like they were astronauts without a spacesuit.
	Just the hood and shoulders and look like, you know, a vacuum cleaner, corrugated tube coming out of the hood to this, I don't know, electrified thing with a fan on the back.
	What kind of life do you live?
	If you are, there's an excuse for doing that, right?
	I mean, putting on the whole level four hazmat suit.
	If you are compromised, if you have some kind of immunocompromised condition, if you are seriously ill otherwise, some bone marrow issue, yeah, I get that you have a reason to be afraid, but that person isn't going to be getting out of a cab, walking down the sidewalk into a hotel.
	What are they doing there?
	Which means these people are not seriously ill, but they are afraid.
	I think every single one of us now has to stop, reassess, and actually do something about this insanity.
	Stand up.
	As we're getting reports right now from the CDC that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is dangerous, that it has caused death via clotting, blood clotting, and now it is not recommended for booster shots, perhaps it's time we relied upon facts.
	It's time that we all stood up.
	If you're healthy, if you've had the coronavirus, don't wear a mask.
	Don't do what?
	Maisie Hirono.
	Here's a little Maisie Hirono clip where she's giving her very... Oh, there it is.
	Play that again.
	Play that again, Eric.
	Look at that.
	Walking into a hotel with fire hoods on.
	and a tube going to some kind of filtration system on your back.
	That's not normal.
	That's beyond brainwashing.
	That's sheer insanity.
	Look at Maisie Hirona being interviewed with her deep political analysis of the state of the Senate.
	And then I'll ask you a question.
	Cut nine.
	That's where he's at.
	And this is why if you have a 50-50 split Senate, you can have one person or two people to stop everything.
	And that is why people in our country should know that a 50-50 Senate sucks and we can't get things done.
	Ah, that political science of 50 cent it sucks.
	Yeah, well, guess what?
	It's the will of the people.
	That's what they chose.
	Half and half.
	In fact, it's what the founding fathers designed the system to be.
	Checks and balances wasn't for efficiency, Maisy.
	Checks and balances was to stop one branch of government Being overbearing on other branches of government.
	50-50 is actually pretty cool if you don't want runaway legislation and insanity like Build Back Better.
	But the point of that video...
	And if you're listening only on radio, you can hear it from the muffles.
	Both the reporter and Maisie Hirono were wearing masks.
	And I guarantee you that Maisie's vaccinated and, you know, quadruple boosted.
	So who's denying science?
	Why are you wearing a mask?
	Stop the insanity.
	Let's go to one of these insane people.
	Let's go to Alan, Pennsylvania, line two.
	Okay, you just said Omicron was the least dangerous.
	Correct.
	Scientifically, that's data-based.
	How many cases of Omicron are in the United States?
	Well, several hundred, given that it's in eight states already.
	Okay.
	And how many people have died from the regular coronavirus?
	None have died from Omicron, and we've had 800,000 die from the regular. 800,000.
	800,000.
	So 800,000 people have died and you're still telling people not to get vaccinated?
	You're a piece of shit!
	I didn't say that.
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	See, that's the level.
	That's the person wearing the smoke hood.
	That's the person with the respirator on his back walking into a hotel.
	Don't be Alan.
	Enough, everybody.
	Take back the country by showing the world you're not afraid.
	If you've had COVID like I have, don't wear a mask.
	If you want to take a vaccine, fine, but the idea that we're going to have boosters four, five times forever and masks is anti-science.
	It is the denial of truth.
	Had enough, guys?
	How about you?
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	Alright, you keep him on the line, and I'm coming in there.
	He was Alan, now he's Sam.
	I remember, yeah, Sam from Philadelphia or whatever, but yeah.
	Yeah, that was very subtle, but I heard it.
	Call him tonight, around midnight.
	No, that's your job!
	That's your job!
	Alright, where are you calling from?
	Not sure if sleep deprivation can legally be classified as torture.
	Uh, it can actually.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, good to know.
	Yeah.
	That video was insane.
	So, John posted that one?
	I found it and I sent it to him to repost.
	Like, you can tell it's an older couple, too, like the way they have- But they're going to a hotel!
	A hotel!
	No, I'm not justifying it.
	A hotel on Mars.
	Maybe they're 200 years old.
	And they dress like that all the time.
	Just so insane.
	That's actually depressing, yeah.
	It's not like we haven't had diseases and illnesses before now.
	It's not.
	Oh, can you play McCullough Cut 8?
	Cut 8, right here.
	Censorship that has suppressed for two years information on safe and effective early treatment and censorship on vaccine safety has led to large numbers of deaths, hospitalizations, and permanent disability.
	Joe, there is no bigger public health crisis than the impact of censorship in COVID-19.
	I've listened to most of that Rogan podcast.
	My buddy was like, you have to.
	I can't believe how much play everybody's been talking about that.
	Everybody's been talking about that.
	How much play it's getting.
	The big thing was that the PCR tests don't work.
	How was Rogan's reaction?
	He's good.
	I mean, he does the typical thing of just letting him roll and doesn't interrupt all that much.
	That's interesting.
	He's coming on Tuesday.
	What?
	McCall is coming on Tuesday.
	How long for?
	He's two segments, but do you want to do a one-on-one or no?
	Yeah, totally.
	He's trying to see if he can change the timing.
	Good.
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	I think the next clip, we're going to make one of our evergreens.
	Why?
	Because it's really what we say here every day, and we learned it.
	From the great one himself, Rush Limbaugh.
	Play cuts.
	You told us we're going to be time to panic.
	Well, is it time to panic?
	Well, let me just tell you, folks, it's never going to be time to panic.
	Because we're never going to give up.
	We're not going to give up on America.
	I'm not.
	I don't think most of you are either.
	America is worth it.
	America is worth fighting for.
	America is worth not giving up.
	I'm not going to take a poll from my team, but you know the answer, guys.
	The millions of you listening across the nation, how many times have I said it is un-American to give up?
	We don't, because Rush told us so, and it's because who we are, and we are honoured.
	To discuss the legacy of that great American with a man who made that show in part so popular because of his work behind the scenes.
	You know him as Beau Snodley.
	He is none other than James Golden.
	James, welcome back to America First!
	Ah, Sebastian, it's so good to be with you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	Look, we have to discuss your new book, The Behind the Scenes.
	It's a rush on the radio.
	But let me ask you personally first, how are you doing?
	How are you surviving, given the loss of this great patriot?
	I'll tell you what, this has been an extremely difficult year.
	And of course, Christmas was Russia's favorite time of year.
	We have so many memories.
	of rush at christmas so undoubtedly it's going to be a tough one he's in our hearts but also you know what a lot of gratitude 33 years rush syndicated host and he will never be replaced he will never ever be forgotten yeah this is i i you know i loved seeing all these who's going to replace rush no Nobody's going to replace Rush.
	What Rush did is make all of our other radio shows possible, but he is irreplaceable.
	Let's dive in right at the beginning.
	What a warm, generous, decent human being he was.
	in the seat to tell us.
	What was it for you that was so special about what he did?
	For me, I just think his brain was wired differently.
	He saw things other people wouldn't see for months, if not years.
	What was special to you, Bo, about Rush?
	What a warm, generous, decent human being he was.
	That was the man Rush Limbaugh.
	The politics, you're absolutely right.
	You know, he had an unconventional way of looking at things that in many cases later became the conventional wisdom.
	He understood broadcasting like no other broadcaster that I knew.
	All of those things are important.
	He changed the media landscape and we watched it as it happened.
	And that is certainly going to be part of the legacy, but the thing that I miss most is the person, the guy, that decent, warm, affable, generous, wonderful spirit that Rush Limbaugh was.
	Can I share with you a story?
	I don't think I've told you this.
	Maybe I did when you were on the show last.
	So it was one of the Christmas parties during the Trump administration and we arrived a little bit early with my wife and we were in one of the ballrooms getting something to eat at those incredible parties that the First Lady organized.
	And we're early, so not a lot of people in the building.
	And there's a gentleman standing off against the wall, by himself, totally by himself, just holding a little plate of food and eating.
	And I said to my wife, that looks like Rush Limbaugh.
	But it can't be.
	Just standing by himself, without an entourage, without a crowd of people.
	And so I thought, I'm gonna go up to him.
	And we'd emailed over the years, and he'd been very kind to me, and he'd helped promote my books.
	And I introduced myself in person.
	And it was your boss, Rush Limbaugh.
	Totally unprepossessing.
	No attitude, no ego.
	Just a guy standing on the edge of the room eating his Christmas fare.
	I was so surprised that this man was so humble, James.
	That's exactly it.
	Humble.
	Quiet.
	Reserved.
	And he was just that.
	So polite.
	And at the same time, you know, the radio persona The tongue-in-cheek braggadocious.
	That was it.
	It was a radio persona.
	Yeah, it was.
	Yeah, he was a quiet, unassuming guy.
	All right, Mr. Snurdley, we've got to talk about your celebration of Rush the Man.
	Tell us, everybody needs to go and order this book.
	It's out right now.
	Perfect Christmas gift.
	Rush on the Radio.
	Give us a little hint, a little teaser of the kinds of things you reveal in this book about Rush.
	Well, behind the scenes, what it was like, of course, that last year being with Rush, which was profound, but then little hints of things that happened, some of the back and forth between us, even, that I would remark that, you know, two years ago, I had a really bad day in there with calls.
	And Rush got on the IFB and said, hey, if that's the best you can do, go home.
	You know, but because he was so passionate and always about bringing excellence to his show.
	And there are other anecdotes from members of the staff.
	But it is really, I think, what you walk away with.
	And if this book is done right, what you'll walk away with is a sense of love.
	Not only that I have for Rush, but our entire staff.
	This was beyond a boss-employee relationship.
	that Rush had with his entire staff.
	We loved that man.
	He was just incredible to work with, a wonderful human being.
	His generosity, I'm telling you, we're still learning stories about it, and he was quiet about it.
	He never wanted the look at me, look what I'm doing attention that some celebrities have.
	It's exactly the same with...
	It's exactly the same with my old boss James with President Trump and we'll be learning for years about the generosity of Rush Limbaugh.
	You've got to check out the book right now.
	Rush on the radio by our friend talking to us right now, Bo Snodley.
	Follow him on Twitter at Bo Snodley.
	Have a blessed, blessed Christmas, James.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Okay, we will be joined shortly by the Baron.
	We've got to talk about the latest restrictions they are planning, not just for California and elsewhere.
	This is from Fauci on CNBC Cut 4.
	You can still enjoy a social gathering, generally in a home.
	You've got to be careful when you go into large, public, indoor spaces where there are a lot of people there.
	And that's the reason why you should be wearing a mask under those circumstances.
	But you've got to follow what's going on.
	If the counts keep going up and the test positivity keeps going up, we may need to be more restrictive.
	No.
	We may not.
	Because we have bodily autonomy.
	If I'm not afraid of Covid, if the latest variant is the least dangerous one we have seen since the China virus left Wuhan and was propagated around the world, no.
	And if the vaccines work, Why do we have to wear masks?
	I'm waiting for somebody to answer that question for me.
	Because in that case, are they really vaccines?
	Do they function as vaccines should?
	Why are we being told by CDC, a panel advising CDC right now, that the J&J vaccine should not be taken in booster form?
	That it is creating blood clots.
	Nine people have died from blood clots because of the J&J vaccine.
	The pseudoscience is rife.
	The denial of science and truth is coming from a man who has been in the same position for 37 years and who earns for his lies $413,000 of your taxpayer money.
	That's Without all the millions he's accrued from the patents that bear his name.
	Patents for what?
	Because he's not a scientist.
	He hasn't practiced medicine for 37 years.
	And when he did, he got it wrong.
	Just look up what he did with regards to AIDS in the 1980s.
	Then you'll realize who Fauci really is.
	Let's go to your calls Ken in Oakland on this topic.
	Welcome to America First.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	You guys have truly educated me over the years.
	Thank you.
	You're welcome, sir.
	This morning, Charlie Kirk had on a guest.
	He actually was the doctor that told President Trump about hydroxychloroquine.
	And he came out and said that this is not a vaccine and that it's a bioweapon.
	And I think that this is very important information that needs to get out.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	He called the vaccines a bioweapon?
	Yes, he actually did.
	And I've heard that three months ago from a whistleblower from Pfizer.
	Her name's Karen Kingston.
	She worked with Pfizer for 20 years and she doesn't call herself a whistleblower because she didn't have a non-disclosure agreement or And I'm not sure about all that, but on French Speech, you know, Mike Lindell's platform, they've been talking about this same thing being a bioweapon for months now, but I haven't heard anybody on the radio say that.
	I don't buy that at all.
	I don't buy the products.
	I buy that these are failures in terms of their efficacy, but these are bioweapons?
	No, I don't buy it.
	I'm sorry.
	I just don't buy it.
	Actual American companies are creating bioweapons under President Trump's Warp Spree program?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	We'll look into who Charlie had on his show, but if you're talking about the virus being potentially a bioweapon, now that's another story.
	Ken, we will look into it.
	Thank you kindly.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First with the Salem Radio Network.
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	seen mics back on then and then you say the masks just don't work and we have the data on why the masks don't work if they're used perfectly they they have limited use and if they're used the way we do or you just touch them and and yeah if you touch them it's pointless it's pointless so why is Fauci still talking about masking up when you're vaccinated it doesn't make any because if people die he doesn't want to get blamed That's the only reason.
	I think the guy we had hit it on the head.
	They worked for like four to six months.
	That's what it is.
	Vaccines.
	Yeah.
	These ones.
	Yeah.
	But they don't want to admit it because what's the variance?
	They lied at the beginning.
	You'll never get it.
	You can't.
	Yeah.
	They said that's what Biden said.
	Remember on July 4th, Biden declared independence from COVID.
	Remember that?
	Yes.
	I need to push therapeutics down.
	It's unbelievable.
	I just want somebody with scientific credentials to just do the analysis on how many people likely died because they couldn't get therapeutics.
	Because in the beginning, you don't remember who was dying?
	It was everybody who'd had an inflammation of the lungs and then had a respirator shoved down their throat.
	That's who died.
	Barron, can you hear us?
	Hey, guys.
	Yeah, I'm just getting my camera straight down.
	Hold on.
	Yeah, no worries.
	He's putting his pants on.
	You only have 70 seconds, no worries.
	That's okay.
	I've got 70 seconds more than enough to pull up here.
	But McCullough was the one that said that it was that the first rounds of the test of the vaccines came back more positive than normal because it was a lot of people seeking it out.
	It was a bad sample group because there's a medical community that it won't, you know.
	Uh-huh.
	And it comes back 90% effective and then you roll it out to the public and it's not as, you know, as effective because your sample was not representative of the public.
	That's still one of my favorite things, though.
	Your tweet just the other day reminded me, Seb, is because if you even use the word vaccine, you get fact-checked immediately.
	So now people are saying, like, vaccine or, like, V-A-C-K-S.
	Yeah, my alternate spellings of vaccine are beginning to get quite imagined.
	It's amazing.
	Vaccine.
	We have 30 seconds.
	Yes, 30 seconds.
	Why do people mix small and uppercase in a word?
	Does that fool the algorithm?
	That doesn't fool the algorithm.
	It's meant as a meme.
	Just like, you know, take a vaccine.
	It's that kind of voice.
	It's a joke.
	Usually.
	Ah, nice timing.
	Alright.
	Okay.
	10 seconds.
	Forestcp.com, right?
	Forestcp.com.
	Okay, 10 seconds.
	Standby.
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	How does it go, dear Baron?
	It goes great.
	It's Friday.
	It's Shabbos.
	It couldn't be better.
	I'm excited.
	Excited for my friends who are celebrating Christmas.
	In just a week, there's a ton of excitement.
	It's all positive.
	And you know what?
	It's a great day to be a MAGA patriot, to be a Republican, because you're seeing that the rhinos are falling over themselves.
	You're seeing Joe Biden falling all the way in his dumpster.
	Okay, let's start with that.
	I'm going to talk to my radio specialist who's been doing this for years.
	Am I allowed to say the word bitch on radio, Jeff?
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Because it's a technical term, right?
	Yeah.
	I mean, it's like a female dog.
	You're quoting a member of Congress.
	And I'm quoting a member of Congress.
	So I have to read this story.
	This is from thepoliticalinsider.com.
	Once Mitch McConnell passed for the Democrats the debt ceiling, this is what MTG Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted out.
	The House of Representatives is voting after midnight tonight because McConnell allowed the Democrats to bypass the filibuster and ram through the debt ceiling increase to $31.5 trillion.
	And she added at the bottom of her tweet, Mitch is Biden's bitch.
	What do we do with Mitch McConnell, Barron?
	Mitch McConnell has been office rocker.
	He gave an interview where he said, oh, we really need to get to the bottom of January 6th.
	January 6th!
	He did it again!
	He did it again!
	Do you give him my cut sheet?
	Do you give Barron my insight?
	I've got my ways.
	I've got my ways.
	You're such a sneaky bugger.
	Cut 10.
	Play cut.
	As far as January 6th, that commission is going through talks right now.
	I know that you made headlines recently when you said it will be interesting to reveal all the participants that were involved.
	Can you expand on that comment?
	Well, my point was we're watching the investigation that's occurring over in the House, reading about it like everyone else, and it'll be interesting to see what facts they find.
	And Liz Cheney kind of leading Republicans there.
	What have you thought of her performance so far?
	I don't have any evaluation of the performance of the committee.
	I think the fact finding is interesting.
	We're all going to be watching it.
	It was a horrendous event.
	It was a horrendous event.
	I have no comment on Liz Cheney or the committee that is trying to criminally hold in contempt the president's former chief of staff and your buddy and mine, Steve Bannon.
	What is the answer to Mitch McConnell?
	Help me out, Barron.
	Well, here's the problem.
	Here's typical D.C.
	non-talk, right?
	Oh, I don't have an answer on Liz Cheney, except Liz Cheney is the only member of Congress who Mitch McConnell has contributed money to this cycle.
	What?
	What?
	Can you just repeat that, please, for all of our listeners, please, Boris?
	Mitch McConnell has contributed money to Liz Cheney this cycle after she has completely gotten off her rocker and became the champion of persecuting MAGA, persecuting President Trump, persecuting anybody who's with President Trump.
	So, you know, as they say, right, talk is cheap and money walks.
	So, Mitch McConnell is very clear what he is.
	Mitch McConnell, and I said this on Steve Bannon's forum this morning, Mitch McConnell is the Liz Cheney of the Senate.
	And look what happened to Liz Cheney.
	She's no longer the conference chair, Liz Stefanikis, who's all full-on MAGA.
	In the Senate, the same thing's gotta happen.
	You cannot have an anti-Trump, anti-MAGA Republican leader in the Senate.
	So somebody, I'm serious, I can't remember who it was, it kind of pissed me off this morning, somebody tweeted an alleged Conservative, you know, for all his faults, he's the, there's nobody better who can wrangle the Senate and get legislation passed than Mitch McConnell.
	Your response to that?
	Who could we replace him with, Boris?
	Give us some names.
	Who's legislation?
	What are we talking about here?
	Is it Biden's legislation?
	And yes, Mitch McConnell was good at getting the judges through, but now Chuck Schumer is getting a bunch of judges through for the artist formerly known as Joe Biden.
	So that is absolute and total nonsense.
	So are you telling me that Mitch McConnell is already in his 80s?
	You're telling me that we've got to have him, what, for the next 60 years?
	Is he going to live like Abraham?
	What are we talking about here?
	Let's ask you concretely.
	Who would you like to see, if we trounce and shellac them in the midterms, who would be a great majority leader on our side?
	We gotta go MAGA.
	So I'd like to see Ted Cruz.
	I think Ted Cruz would be a very good majority leader.
	Rick Scott is somebody who's well-respected and having a good cycle over there at the Senatorial Committee.
	You've got to go MAGA.
	You cannot go old-school establishment.
	It's got to be speaking for where the Republican Party is right now.
	And the Republican Party's all in on MAGA, and you've seen that in the polling.
	Even CNN came out and had a poll which showed that 75% of Republicans and Republican-leading independents believe that the election was not legitimate, the 2020 election.
	And 86% of them are enthusiastic to vote.
	So this narrative of, oh, we got to move on, or we're sapping enthusiasm, is absolute and total nonsense.
	We've got to be MAGA.
	We're MAGA in the House.
	We've got to be MAGA in the Senate.
	We're talking to Boris Epstein, former special assistant to President Trump, former strategic advisor to the Trump 2020 campaign.
	Follow him on Twitter, Boris EP.
	He's on Getter.
	He's on Instagram, Boris underscore Epstein.
	And then... What?
	I said no doubt.
	We're everywhere.
	We're everywhere.
	And his website borisep.com.
	My new community.
	You've got to check it out.
	Super excited.
	We've been up there for less than two weeks.
	It's gawker.locals.com.
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	- So what did you talk about with Steve today?
	- What did we hit?
	Mitch, there was a lot of Mitch McConnell.
	We hit the polling in New Hampshire that's got the boss up by two in New Hampshire where they're telling us he lost by seven.
	- Oh, yeah.
	- I think he's a good one.
	- I think he's a good one. - I think he's a good one.
	Oh, can you send me that?
	Because I got a buddy running in New Hampshire.
	Can you send me that poll?
	Who do you got, Bulldog?
	No, no, no.
	It's Jeff Cousins in, what is it, District 2.
	Is that the one Mowers is in, or is it the other one?
	That's the woman, yeah.
	Carolina?
	The woman who's been there, the Democrat who's been there for 10 years.
	No, no, that's the other one.
	Yeah, I'll send you the poll now.
	Thank you.
	That's interesting.
	So why the hell would... I mean, that's such an obvious red flag.
	Why would he give her any money?
	Because that's where he is.
	He's just a swamp.
	Just because he's swamp.
	That's where he is.
	That's where he is.
	He doesn't care.
	That's where he is.
	Incredible.
	No, no, he, you know... He's just not there.
	I'm sending it to you now.
	Thanks.
	Do you like nub?
	Have you had nub?
	The cigar?
	Yeah.
	No.
	It's made by Oliva, you know that.
	I did not know that.
	Those little ones, I did not know that.
	Yeah, one of my listeners.
	Roger, I hope you're listening.
	He sent me a packet of nub, and we tried them.
	Very good.
	Short, but just like, you know, between cigar, cigar.
	Very good.
	I had a great H. Oppmann.
	I had a H. Oppmann.
	Oh, that's my son's new favorite.
	He's got such, so bad taste.
	Ten seconds.
	Okay.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	We're having fun in the break talking about Let's talk about cigars.
	Thank you, Roger.
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	Baron, you know, you've celebrated Hanukkah.
	We're getting ready for Christmas.
	Can we talk about something nice?
	Can I give you a fun story?
	I'd love that.
	Nothing would make me happier.
	So we've got this from the Daily Wire.
	It looks as if the Biden administration is going to have to backtrack and they have pulled out of negotiations to give illegal aliens $450,000 each in compensation.
	What does that mean?
	Does that mean we're winning, Boris?
	Of course we're winning.
	We're winning everywhere.
	Built back broke is dead.
	Federalization of voting is dead.
	The money to illegals is dead.
	And the Biden administration, right track, wrong track, which is how you really measure administration, he's in the 20s.
	And so what we've been doing, which is putting the focus on the weakness, fecklessness of Biden and his awful team.
	You've got Buttigieg, who I know is your favorite.
	You've got Janet Yellen, who's totally feckless at Treasury.
	Jennifer Granholm doesn't know anything about oil, but yet she's the Secretary of Energy.
	This is the worst administration in history.
	We can't find one.
	We can't find one competent person.
	It's shocking.
	No, there's nobody over there.
	And people are leaving.
	They already had two border czars leave, okay?
	Hang on, hang on.
	I thought Kamala was the border czar.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Kamala is the titular border czar.
	So the actual people who are supposed to do the work, they're out.
	Kamala's whole team's gone.
	Oh, and he lost that commie who was going to be comptroller of the currency.
	Yes.
	She didn't even, she didn't even make it.
	Okay.
	And people claimed it's because she's Russian.
	No, it's because she's a commie.
	See, it's not, it's not all about, to the media, it's not about ethnicity and it's not about, it's about your views.
	Hang on.
	They nominated a former Soviet citizen to control of the currency.
	Isn't that Russian collusion, Boris?
	Collusion.
	Collusion!
	Finally!
	Oh!
	Eric!
	Eric Swalwell!
	President Swalwell blocked me on Twitter, Boris.
	How will I survive?
	I think you're going to survive by having a couple of long stogies just like I am this weekend.
	I'm going to pair it with some nice single malt and I'm going to enjoy myself.
	It perhaps was the best early Christmas present.
	Thank you, President Swalwell, the flatulent one, for blocking me.
	Oh, it's probably because you weren't tweeting in Chinese.
	Oh yes, Fang Fang.
	He still can't deny he didn't sleep with a Chinese spy.
	I don't know why.
	I didn't.
	Boris didn't.
	But he can't deny it.
	BorisEP.com.
	Have a blessed weekend.
	I'll be sending you photographs of my stogies this evening.
	Next up, it's Friday.
	It's the Second Amendment.
	Stay on this channel.
	So, hey, that was good that was good energy.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So what are you gonna smoke tonight?
	I think I'm gonna head to H. Utman's.
	Somebody gave me a box.
	What?
	Who is this person?
	I need to know this person.
	What size?
	What size Utman?
	What do you call these?
	Corona?
	No, Corona's a little thinner, right?
	Yeah.
	I'd say it's a Toro.
	It's the gauge of a Churchill, but it's a little shorter.
	So it's a good touch.
	I'm probably going to hit one of those.
	Maybe finish that with a smaller one.
	Good stuff.
	What about yourself?
	We're going to go to the cabin this weekend, and my son's back, so we're going to hit some big cigars on the overlook.
	So probably my house brand, and then Paul will have whatever.
	An Oliva or something.
	That's great.
	Have a good time.
	I look forward to the pictures.
	Enjoy.
	See you next week.
	Bye.
	See you, brother.
	Thanks so much.
	Right.
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	going on I was saying that Saturday Night Live should bring back Trump not to play Alec Baldwin.
	Baldwin.
	That would be the funniest.
	Alright, I'll go ahead and dial them up now.
	Yep.
	Alright, I'll get the Car Firearms Friday thing.
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	Look at that motley crew.
	Hey, gentlemen.
	How are you, sir?
	Good.
	So we're going to mention... Let me get my cheat sheet.
	We're going to mention Fuller... Fuller Phoenix.
	Phoenix and Haley Strategic, right?
	Yes, sir.
	Good, good.
	Just for reference to the Chiron, who is on the left and who's on the right?
	Jim's on the left.
	Okay, okay, perfect.
	And then I can start by talking about rifle dynamics.
	Is that an issue, Jim?
	Because that's how I know you.
	No, not really.
	Okay, good.
	Sebastian, I want to say something quick.
	I mean, this is a great opportunity for all of us.
	Again, we're a community bridge, but we're not really, I honestly don't care about talking about guns or I really don't.
	It's just a Second Amendment thing.
	We love it.
	All right.
	Stand by, guys.
	60 seconds.
	Audio sounds good, by the way.
	Yeah, it definitely sounds better.
	Very good shot.
	Yeah.
	We've got, obviously, car 30 here and nothing else.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	Oh, man.
	We've got 45 seconds.
	Excellent.
	That top power break.
	Goodbye.
	Yeah, lively.
	I did some color correction on the intro videos you sent me for that as well.
	You mean the ones I made?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I think it was the contrast.
	I'm not the contrast.
	I think it was the contrast.
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	Not only do I have a national radio show, I get to talk to people who I've just been following for years, who I would love to meet one day, but first we're going to have them on our national radio show, and we are delighted to have a man who Let's just call him Mr. Custom Built AK.
	He's Jim Fuller and also his new buddy, another man who needs no introduction.
	He is Travis Haley of Haley Strategic.
	Gentlemen, welcome to America First.
	Good to be here, sir.
	Thank you for having us, Sebastian.
	So look, I'm an American now.
	I chose America.
	I'm an immigrant, so I've got lots of AR-15s.
	It is the, you know, the builder block of guns.
	It's a lot of fun, but I've got a special place in my heart for a Sergeant Kalashnikov's gun.
	I've got rifle dynamics.
	I've got Krebs.
	I've got more AKs than I can shake a stick at.
	Let's start with you, Jim.
	You are known for what the magic you do with that platform, and you become increasingly political.
	Love your rants on Instagram.
	Let's start with the basics.
	Why, for you, is it the AK?
	Because we know you'll walk through fire.
	We have.
	And we know what that gun will do.
	Yeah.
	It's just because of its reliability, because of its no BS construction?
	Very much.
	It's very Russian in that regard, no doubt.
	The gun was probably the best designed gun for what it does ever in the world.
	I mean, in this country it's not the number one gun, but in the rest of the world it is.
	And there's a reason for that.
	120 million of them throughout the world versus maybe 20 million ARs.
	That's the reality of it.
	Numbers speak, numbers speak.
	Talk to us about this new venture.
	What is Fuller Phoenix?
	I've sent you an AK you're going to work your magic on, but I want all of our millions of listeners and viewers across the country to know what Jim Fuller is doing now.
	Well, we specialize in fighting rifles, like I said, because we know you'll walk through fire and our guns will.
	Travis and I have known each other for quite a while and we always wanted to work together.
	And when I sold Rifle Dynamics, that opportunity became available.
	And with his input and my knowledge of this gun, I think we can do some pretty good stuff here pretty soon.
	I know you can with his operator's background.
	So Travis, talk to us about Haley Strategic.
	Talk about a product you mentioned to me yesterday on our phone call.
	So tell us about what you guys are doing.
	Well, Sebastian, Haley Strategic is kind of a bridge builder.
	We kind of attract a lot of jacks of all trades here at the company.
	We bridge gaps across the world in different spaces.
	Politics, weapons development with Jim and multiple other companies in the industry that we've consulted and designed with.
	Our kind of flagship thing here is training.
	So we love the apps, the science behind the shooting, you know, which comes from the human.
	So we care about thinking before just shooting.
	So we do everything from biomechanics research studies and brain mapping, ocular science, and we share that very simply back to our student populations.
	And then Some of our product development that we do is in the textile world, plate carriers, armor systems, advanced construction of those things, because my experience, our research, our success, which comes from our failures, is what we put back into that.
	You know, we understand that the, at least for me personally, I think the number one attribute of a warrior is compassion, because the more you care about something, the harder you're going to fight for it, like our freedom.
	And so, And then vulnerability, right?
	Not weakness, but the ability to open ourselves up to understand what we're doing right, what we're doing wrong, and then to always be a better and bigger version of ourselves.
	And we put that back into our product development.
	So, yeah, yesterday we launched our plate carrier, which is for everybody in the world that needs it because if you've got the right to defend yourself with a firearm – You absolutely should have the right to defend yourself with the armor from those firearms.
	Yeah, it's hard to defend yourself when you've got holes in your thorax.
	So, it's a good thing to have.
	So, talk to us about... That's perfect timing.
	It just launched.
	What's it called?
	Where can they find out more about it, Travis?
	It's called the Thorax Plate Carrier and it's available on our website at hayleystrategic.com.
	Hayleystrategic.com.
	Perfectly done.
	Look, that's a great take.
	I think you share a lot in common with our buddy John over at the Warrior Poets Society.
	You can't be a good warrior without compassion because you're not mindless.
	You fight for that which you love.
	There's philosophy there, there's emotion there, there's soul there.
	So let's be a little bit more sophisticated when we think about these things.
	Let's You said I could do this, Jim, so I'm going to dive straight in.
	Let's get a little bit political.
	We're going to have another guest on the show later today.
	I'm not going to mention his name, although he is known by some as Gun Jesus, who said, I'm glad to come on this show again, but we're not going to talk politics.
	We're just going to talk guns.
	Yeah, OK.
	I'll respect that.
	He's my guest.
	But guys, let's start with you, Jim.
	They've made everything bloody political.
	So the idea that you can talk about guns without being political, do you buy that, Jim?
	No, and I'll tell you what.
	I'm an old guy.
	I remember the gun culture in the 60s, 70s, 80s, even in the 90s.
	In the 60s, when I was going to elementary school, I used to take a .22 rifle with me to school and leave it in the coat closet, along with 8 or 10 other ones that all the other kids brought to school as well.
	Because we always went plinking after school.
	It was normal childhood activities.
	In those days, almost every house you went into had a really nice wood cabinet with glass doors displaying the family gun case, most likely in the living room or the family room where everybody could see it because people were proud of it and it was part of our culture.
	Now, when you look back at these things and you realize just how much freedom we've already lost, I mean, Prior to 1968, did you know that you could order a 20mm anti-tank rifle through the mail, have it sent by the post office to your front door, and nobody would ever know you have it?
	Don't break my heart, Jim.
	Don't break my heart.
	It's Christmas!
	What are you doing to me, Jim?
	Please, stop it!
	Amazon right now.
	But it's true, you know, and they will say, well, there must have been havoc.
	Well, I got to admit, I did my research.
	I looked.
	There was one crime committed during that time period with a 20mm anti-tank rifle.
	They tried to, somebody broke into a bank and tried to use it to open the vault door with.
	That's lateral thinking, that's lateral thinking.
	Yeah, the days in which, you know, every rifle, every truck and a rifle rack and kids, you know, would take their 22s to school and we didn't have school shootings tells you that everything is political.
	Travis, your take on the politicization of everything, including the Second Amendment?
	Yeah, I could talk for hours about it.
	But I think, you know, we have a serious problem in this country.
	I mean, it's just like, look at the TikTok thing that happened this morning where nationwide schools are going to have shootings because some kid puts out this TikTok challenge.
	We have failed parenting strategies.
	It's one of the biggest problems that we have.
	And then, of course, now the media, which grabbed a hold of that thing this morning and threw it out across the world.
	And now everybody knows about it.
	So if you do have a child or somebody that has mental health issues, what do you think they're going to do?
	Well, OK, maybe this is my day.
	So and then the Again, I grew up with this as well.
	I'm a swamp rat, redneck kid from Florida.
	And I used to have my rifle in the back of my truck and I would park it on the school grounds in the late 80s and early 90s.
	So we're not that far away from it.
	And I think today's world, yeah, we're losing it.
	And we have to remember that, man, there's something special about being a part of 327 million people in the world that have something so uniquely different that nobody else will ever understand in the rest of the world.
	That's 4.5% of the entire world's population has something uniquely in common as a unique experimental republic freedom.
	And I think we're forgetting about that.
	And that's what, again, the Second Amendment is for.
	And it is not about hunting.
	It's not even about self-defense.
	It is the ultimate guarantor of this, the greatest experiment in democracy.
	I know we're a Republic, guys.
	Calm down.
	But it is the greatest guarantor of our freedom.
	God bless you guys for doing what you do.
	I want to have you guys back.
	Can we talk to you guys for an hour?
	Can we do a long deep dive interview?
	I think we could do that.
	All right, let's do that.
	Because this isn't enough for me.
	And maybe the listeners would like to hear some more.
	In the meantime, follow him at FullerAK on Instagram.
	FullerPHX, like phoenix.com is his website.
	It's HaleyStrategic.com.
	What else would you like to mention in the last 30 seconds, guys?
	Travis, what are your social media accounts?
	My personal one is DragonflyHaley.
	And then we have our HaleyStrategic official.
	And then there's the Fuller Phoenix official.
	And, um, yeah.
	All right, guys.
	To be continued.
	Just a little soup, a little flavor.
	These guys are helping to keep America free with their training, their products, their attitude, and those political rants.
	I've got to learn a little bit.
	I've got a little bit more spicy like Jim, but I think I'm getting there.
	This is America First with the Salem Radio Network broadcasting across the nation on 300 stations.
	Whatever you're doing, wherever you are, don't you dare touch that dial.
	All right, guys, that was epic, as my engineers just said.
	Awesome.
	Alright, so we'll get you back after Christmas for, uh, we have a one-on-one, a longer one, so we'll have like an hour-long chat.
	That'd be great.
	Sebastian, thanks for having us, we really appreciate what you're doing, and keep sending the messages, keep fighting, and we're right with you.
	Sure.
	And the Thorax really just launched yesterday?
	It did.
	Fabulous.
	Perfect timing.
	Did you catch that?
	He said, what color do you want?
	What color do you want?
	What shall we do?
	What goes with my eyes?
	F.D.E.
	F.D.E.
	Okay.
	All right, guys.
	I'll be in touch and I'll call you maybe at the weekend about the 300.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I got some questions for you on that.
	I did a little research and I want to throw a couple of ideas at you.
	Good, good.
	That was super fun.
	Thank you, guys.
	Yeah, enjoyed it.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thanks.
	Bye.
	Hey, buddy.
	How are you doing?
	Good, good.
	Been too long.
	Merry Christmas.
	Good, really good.
	Yeah, our son's back from California and our daughter's arriving on Sunday.
	How about you?
	Can't complain.
	Been really busy.
	Good.
	How do you want me?
	I know what to say about you in terms of your prior career.
	What do I say now?
	I'm the CEO of Semper.
	Semper?
	Yeah, like Semper Fi.
	Okay, is there a website?
	Yep, Semper.ai.
	S-E-M-P-R-E.ai.
	I took Latin, thank you.
	It's not E-R, it's R-E.
	Oh, R-E?
	R-E, yeah.
	Why?
	Stands for Secure EMP Resistant Edge.
	It's a 5G edge computing platform.
	And AI at the end is what?
	What's that?
	It's an AI platform.
	It's a platform for AI.
	Cool.
	And we've got Israel here.
	So it's basically the embodiment of the study I did when I was at the White House that I got fired for because the telecom industry found out.
	Good.
	And how's it going?
	Going great, yeah.
	Axios just did a story on us, an exclusive.
	How bad did they screw it up?
	Actually, they did a really good job.
	Yeah?
	Yeah.
	They admitted that I wasn't trying to nationalize 5G like the talking point they put out because they wanted to attack Trump through me.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, remember?
	Back then.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Totally.
	One minute.
	Okay.
	Want to come in with anything?
	Oh, quick thing.
	I don't want that posted and I don't want Gunji's posted without an outro on Locals.
	Do we have a little video on Locals you can use?
	Like a promo?
	Or can you just cut it from one of the previous segments?
	We should be able to do that, yeah.
	We can do it in the break.
	Let's do it in the break.
	So we're coming in with Israel.
	30 seconds Israel, yep.
	Oh, and the book.
	I'll find your book.
	What's the book?
	I'll get it right now.
	I have a new one coming out, by the way.
	Well, we can mention that.
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	It's been far too long but he's in studio.
	My former buddy who when he's not flying stealth aircraft is senior director for strategy at the Trump White House in the National Security Council.
	Now he It's one of these devilish CEOs in the private sector.
	He is Brigadier General, retired, U.S.
	Air Force, Rob Spalding.
	Rob, welcome back in studio.
	Thanks.
	Great to be here.
	Can we jump straight in, talk about China, what happened this week?
	Sure.
	So your reaction?
	So we go from the Trump administration, trade war with China, ISIS crashed, North Korea back in its box, Russian quote-unquote contractors zapped by DoD, more than 200 of them in Syria, 52 cruise missiles dropped on that Syrian airbase with the chemical weapons.
	And then we have the Democracy Summit of the Biden administration where Free Taiwan's Minister of Culture or Information or whatever is giving a briefing at our democracy, did I say that again?
	Democracy Summit and dares, she dares to use a map where Taiwan, Free Taiwan is not coloured red like communist China and the White House cuts The feed.
	And when the feed is reinstated, there's a big disclaimer label.
	The views of this speaker do not necessarily represent the views of the Biden administration.
	Please tell us, as former defense attache in Beijing, how does Communist China look at that behavior of the Biden administration?
	Well, the first time I ran into this, I was negotiating the archive agreement between the People's Liberation Army and the U.S.
	military.
	The Chinese Communist Party controlled the prisoner war camps during the Korean War, and we wanted access to the archives so we could find where our missing was and bring them back home.
	Wow.
	I was with the delegation that went to talk about opening up the archives and we showed a map and on that map China was one color and Taiwan was a different color.
	They stopped the meeting.
	They're like, the meeting's over.
	You are basically saying that so that's the first time I ran into this phenomenon and you know it became part of this over time the recognition by me that our entire diplomatic apparatus had basically been controlled by the Chinese Communist Party.
	What do I mean by that?
	We say what they want us to say because we fear angering them by saying things that they don't like.
	We have capitulated to their rules.
	It got so bad when I was in the White House, I received a two-page memo.
	And the memo could have been written by the Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party.
	It came from our own embassy.
	And so what I realized during my time the last few years of my career was that they had captured our diplomatic apparatus in a way that allowed them, the Chinese Communist Party, to control the narrative.
	In other words, Whatever they wanted us to say is what we would say.
	And it still, as you know now, with this cutting of the feed, the same issue is still pervasive throughout our State Department, throughout our national security apparatus, because We believe that if we just don't antagonize the Chinese, that everything will be fine.
	And of course, they use that as a means to get us to do things.
	And so they'll say, you angered 1.4 billion Chinese.
	And finally, I started telling my People's Liberation Army colleagues, I lived in Shanghai.
	I guarantee you most of the people in Shanghai don't even care what you're saying.
	It's not the Chinese.
	It's the Chinese Communist Party.
	And specifically, it's you that we're angering, not the people.
	So let me get your reaction to this.
	We had a guest on the show yesterday talking about these issues who intimated that if we dared to talk about free Taiwan as not being Chinese or, you know, published a map which was the wrong color for Beijing, that China would then invade Taiwan.
	Well, China's going to invade Taiwan anyway.
	But we're not going to be the reason.
	No, they've already decided.
	We don't know when it's going to happen.
	They've already decided they're going to do it.
	I mean, that's the bottom line.
	Well, you've served there.
	You've studied them.
	You've written the book on these issues, Stealth War, how China took over while America's elite slept.
	What is Rob Spalding, former U.S.
	Army Brigadier General say about when they will do it?
	I think it's after, definitely after the Olympics.
	So they want that to go off without a hitch.
	I believe she's already made up his mind what's going to happen.
	If you look at the forces, they have a raid on their side of the Taiwan Strait.
	It's overwhelming.
	They have overmatch.
	They have every one of our bases blanketed.
	They can move at any time.
	So we just have to expect that just like Soviet Union moved into Czechoslovakia, just like they moved into Berlin, the Chinese are going to move into – and what I think is going to happen in Europe is when Xi moves into Taiwan, Putin the Chinese are going to move into – and what I think is going Or vice versa, Putin will move to Ukraine and Xi will move on to Taiwan.
	So the significance this week of the Russia-China summit where Putin opens the discussion calling Xi my good friend and saying that there have never been better Russia-China relations that's that's not just I mean that's significant.
	Well, I mean, what they needed to do was prepare the world for a different vision of democracy.
	And if you looked at what the Chinese are saying, they're saying, we have democracy.
	China's saying they are a democracy and their democracy is better than the United States.
	And if you look at what's happened since the beginning of the coronavirus and the decline in civil liberties, the control of most of democratic governments over their populations, using a lot of the same policies that the Chinese Communist Party led with, they have created this environment that, you know, when that happens, I don't know that there's going to be much of an outrage.
	They're going to say maybe, hey, you know, it's their right, and, you know, it's just like U.S. moving into Iraq and Afghanistan.
	Well, I mean, when you have the chief communist diplomat of Communist China at the Anchorage Summit, using Democrat talking points about racial injustice, justice and BLM to the chief diplomat, Anthony Bader Boy Blinken, and he just sits there.
	We're not pushing back.
	And you got guys like Steve Kerr in the NBA, you know, an NBA coach basically saying the same thing.
	So there's there's what's happened is, as opposed to Reagan, who clearly drew out the differences between the Soviet Union and the United States.
	Today, we've lost that.
	What does America stand for?
	The clarity.
	Sun Tzu didn't say know who your enemy is and you'll win.
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	Back with General Spaulding Pretty funny.
	mic's back on pretty funny crazy okay um the So you doing anything for Christmas or just hanging out?
	Our kids don't want to do anything, so we're staying home.
	Let's quickly record that.
	You can relax.
	Go to full screen.
	And you've got the bumper, right?
	Thanks.
	- The, what is it we're doing? - Locals.
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	All right, let me fade this away and then you want me to just use the-- - The locals bumper.
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	Yeah, but I'll start on me.
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	This is just video, so yeah, okay.
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	Okay.
	What was Kevin's title?
	He was deputy to the president for strategy.
	Oh, so he wasn't a director of a directorate?
	Well, I mean, if you're a deputy, you're also a senior director, so technically... But you were a senior director?
	I was a senior director.
	For strategy?
	For strategy.
	So remember, you had assistant to the president and deputy to the president, so you could be a senior director.
	Right.
	Then you could be Assistant to the President.
	You're also Senior Director.
	You could be a Deputy to the President.
	You would also be a Senior Director.
	So those were kind of... And the difference was... Because I was a Deputy, but I wasn't in the NSC.
	No, no, no.
	Right.
	Yeah, that's what I'm telling you.
	In the NSC... What was the difference in title between you and Kevin?
	So he could go and eat in the West Wing.
	Oh, okay.
	So your rank was what?
	SAP or DAP?
	No, no.
	I was Senior Director.
	So you had Senior Director, SAP and DAP.
	SAP and DAP's...
	We're basically, you know, you can eat in the lunchroom, that's it.
	But you were still in uniform?
	Right, yes.
	We all had West Wing access, but it's all protocol, you know.
	It's silly.
	I remember the first day I walked in on Saturday.
	I had no idea what I had access to and I said to the Secret Service woman outside the Rose Garden, so where can I go?
	How far can I see?
	What color is your badge?
	Blue.
	Oh, you can go anywhere.
	Because I had no idea what a blue badge meant.
	It was Saturday after the inauguration.
	All right.
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	We're going to be joined in Second Amendment Friday by none other than Ian McCullen of probably the biggest gun channel on YouTube for gun weapons, but right now we are delighted to have my former White House colleague with me, former Director for Strategy of the National Security Council under the Trump administration, Brigadier General of the U.S.
	Air Force, retired Robert Spalding, author of Stealth War, How China Took Over While America's Elites Slept, now CEO of Semper.ai.
	It's spelled differently!
	It's not Semper Fi.
	Why is it spelled RE on the end?
	What does it stand for?
	Semper stands for Secure EMP Resistant Edge.
	So it's an EMP-hardened data center and 5G network all in one physical implementation.
	Very, very exciting.
	We'll try and squeeze in a discussion of that in a second, but I have to share this with you.
	As a former uniformed general, I want to get your take on Christina Wong, our buddy at Breitbart, has We've got access to a survey that was sent to active duty members of the U.S.
	military by the DoD, a 40-page survey on workplace gender relations.
	And the section there asks the following.
	I want to ask how this affects our combat effectiveness.
	Statements that you are required to assess.
	Do you agree with, many women have a quality of purity that few men possess.
	Women should be cherished and protected by men.
	Women seek to gain power by getting control over men.
	Every man ought to have a woman who he adores.
	Why are they asking these questions in a DoD survey of uniformed military, Rob?
	I can honestly say I've never seen a question like that in a DoD survey.
	And what does China think?
	I have no idea.
	That's the most bizarre thing I've ever heard of.
	But they're trying to find out whether you have traditional toxic values about women, Rob.
	Which affects your combat effect.
	I'm sure when you're flying that stealth bomber, I mean, you know, whether you think of women is relevant, right?
	Yeah, it's kind of, you know, I think if you serve in the military for any length of time, and that's prior to, I really believe that we've created this kind of divisiveness, not just in the military, but in our society writ large, but I spent almost 30 years in the military.
	There was never a time when I thought of anybody that served with me, whether it be male, female, or what have you, as anything other than a colleague in arms.
	That's it.
	We all bleed the same color blood.
	If you're a woman, if you're a man, if you're black, white, it doesn't matter.
	We all bleed red blood.
	In some ways, the military was insulated from that.
	There would be some things outside of the military that would surprise me in terms of prejudice and bias.
	I was always taken aback by that.
	But for the most part, divisiveness didn't come into the military lexicon because it's absolutely detrimental to cohesion.
	Unit cohesion.
	Absolutely.
	It functions against the job you have to do.
	We're talking to Rob Spalding.
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	Rob, we're almost out of time.
	We've got to get you back for a longer hour-long discussion.
	But last question, given that it's in the name of your company, Semper.ai, are we even close to taking the EMP threat, the electromagnetic pulse threat, seriously in America?
	Absolutely not.
	The only, what I would say, the only hardened infrastructure that exists are those that support the nuclear forces.
	Otherwise, throughout our society... What about the civilian world?
	One nuclear weapon in the upper atmosphere would turn off the lights, you know, across the United States.
	In many cases, permanently.
	And are there bad guys who want to do that?
	The North Koreans, the Iranians, it's not just the Chinese and the Russians that have nuclear weapons, the North Koreans do, the Iranians want them.
	You know, so you think about, well, they only have one net, well, one weapon in the upper atmosphere shuts off the lights.
	If you look at what happened in Katrina, it wasn't the flooding, it was the decline in civil society when the lights and the telecommunications networks went out.
	Who do you call to come and help you?
	Right?
	You can't because the network goes down.
	So we're focused on having survivable infrastructure for communities that allow their first responders to still be able to get there, allow them to get to medical help, allow them to work and live through a disaster.
	And it doesn't have to be a nuke.
	There's something called the Carrington event, which is a solar flare that does the same thing.
	And so we're going to dodge, hopefully, a bullet.
	But if we don't dodge a bullet, we've got big, big problems.
	Well, thank you, Rob Spaulding.
	To continue to serve this nation in and out of uniform, check out Semper.ai.
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	Look at that background.
	Nice, I know.
	Fabulous background.
	Is that one of those polymer ARs?
	Yes, it is.
	Which one?
	Is that a CAF-15 or one of the new ones?
	That is a new one.
	That is a KP-15.
	KP-15.
	I've got one of those without the innards.
	I have to get the innards and build it.
	What upper did you put on it?
	That is our What Would Stoner Do upper.
	And what's the galil beneath it?
	Is that an ARM?
	Who made that?
	That is a clone of a South African R5.
	Ooh, nice.
	Who built that for you?
	A company called, if I remember, Nemesis Arms, or Nefarious Arms.
	Did they do a good job?
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's an Israeli kit.
	It's a TorqTorq receiver.
	And the whole reason I did it was I had a guy in South Africa give me the optic.
	Oh, nice.
	But does it have the original R5 stock that's a little longer?
	No, it's in Israeli stock.
	Israeli stock, yeah.
	So, what's that optic like?
	Is it just their version of the Red Dot?
	No, that is an Armson OEG.
	Oh, it is!
	I've got one of those.
	I've got an Armson, but I've never seen it on a Galil.
	That's cool.
	Okay, cool.
	Stand by, buddy.
	Okay, we are doing...
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	We are delighted for Second Amendment Friday to have back with us a man who's been far too long.
	He is the host of perhaps the most It's influential YouTube channel on weapons out there.
	Ian McCallum of Forgotten Weapons.
	Welcome to America First.
	Howdy.
	Thank you.
	So before you came on the show, you said to my team, couple of conditions.
	Number one, no politics.
	I can respect that.
	You're my guest.
	And then you said, does he mind if I sit in front of a wall of firearms?
	Only if he doesn't give them all to me afterwards.
	In the break, we've been discussing what he's got behind him.
	Very, very nice collection, including the replica or the copy of the South African R5 Galil with an original ARMSEN, what is it, the OEG AEG on top, the occluded red dot sight?
	OEG, occluded eye gun sight.
	OEG.
	Fabulous.
	Have you made a video on that one?
	I have.
	Actually, I took that thing out to a match.
	All right, I'm gonna have to look for that far too much content on his YouTube channel.
	He's approaching two and a half million followers, guys.
	It's Forgotten Weapons.
	Let's start at the very, very beginning.
	What made you start ForgottenWeapons.com?
	Was there a trigger to the beginning?
	There sort of was.
	A friend of a friend of mine had found a bunch of technical documents On all four versions of something called the Pedersen device, which was this World War One secret project that would actually convert a bolt-action rifle into a pistol caliber semi-auto rifle.
	And the U.S.
	actually built a whole bunch of these for the 1903 Springfield, and we ended up throwing them away.
	And it's a good thing, because they were terrible.
	But they originally developed it for several other guns as well.
	And this friend had found a bunch of that documentation, and then he passed away a few years later, and his family just threw it all away because they didn't realize it was anything historically relevant or significant at all.
	And so a friend and I at that point thought, you know, maybe we can do something to actually preserve some of this knowledge so that it doesn't get lost again like that.
	And that was the start of Forgotten Weapons.
	Fabulous.
	Second question.
	I'm just going through my list of, you know, things I want to ask Ian, if I can.
	French firearms?
	Why on earth, Ian?
	I mean, apart from the FAMAS, I have a Mab 15.
	I love that kind of double stack 9mm.
	The FAMAS, I get it.
	But all the rest?
	Seriously, Ian, explain it to our millions of listeners.
	All right.
	So, I always like unusual and different things in any area, any subject matter.
	And so when it came to firearms, what's different about the French is that they built almost all their military firearms in their own state arsenals using their own designs.
	They didn't buy stuff from the big commercial outfits and they didn't generally sell things commercially either.
	So the French firearms, some of the designs are excellent.
	Some of them are not so excellent, but they're all unique and different.
	And that's what interested me is let's look at this like separate standing apart from much of the rest of the world set of designs.
	Fabulous answer.
	Forgottenweapons.com is the website, Forgotten Weapons on YouTube.
	The next question is going to be mercilessly exploitative because I need to know the answer to the question.
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	I'm not going to have two and a half million subscribers, not yet.
	But I want to ask Ian, what do you think is the secret sauce?
	Is it just because, man, the depth of knowledge, you get into it with your engineering background, Have you stepped out?
	Have you looked upon yourself and said, you know, this is why Forgotten Weapons works.
	Give some advice to budding gun content YouTubers.
	All right.
	So if you're doing content in general, and this should be no surprise to you, Sebastian, you have to be consistent.
	You have to be reliable.
	People have to know they can get something from you and get it when you say they're going to get it.
	When it comes to actually making material on firearms, video material, to me the most important thing is to find the interesting story behind every gun.
	It might be a mechanical story.
	If something's just a really weird mechanism, it might be a historical story.
	It might be a personal story related to some specific individual.
	But the key is, it's not about going out there and just dumping a couple of magazines through some random gun.
	It's, what makes this one interesting?
	And there can be a lot of different ways for it to be interesting, but find that.
	And that's how you can make, I think, compelling content.
	Fabulous answer.
	Fabulous answer, Ian.
	Thank you.
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	Last question.
	I didn't rehearse this.
	We didn't clear the talking points.
	I just want to ask it because I use the name YouTube and we are banished from YouTube.
	We're on rumble.
	How concerned are you, given all the demonetization of 2A content, that people like you may have to find other venues?
	Is that something you think about every day?
	It is.
	I expect it'll happen someday.
	It's that Princess Bride thing, you know.
	I'll most likely kill you in the morning.
	I'm going to keep doing it as long as I can.
	YouTube is where the really big audience is for me.
	And if I have to change at some point, I'll do it when I have to.
	Good.
	Good answer.
	Forgottenweapons.com.
	Last.
	I'm going to squeeze one more in.
	We've got 30 seconds left.
	Grail gun that you still want to get your hands on.
	What is it?
	Keltoff Repeater.
	The very first repeating firearm actually used in military combat.
	Who by?
	Uh, by the Danes.
	I have a video on the site of the battle, about the battle, but I haven't gotten my hands on the gun yet that I need to complete that video.
	I thought I knew a bit about guns.
	Not sure I've ever heard of the Kel Tov.
	I've been reading Ian V. Hogg's Small Arms of the World ever since I could pick up that Mammoth Janes publication, but I'm going to check it out now.
	He's given me some homework!
	God bless you, Ian.
	Have a merry, merry Christmas.
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	Hey, have you changed your camera?
	It's a really good, it's like crystal.
	This is just a camera in a Mac Pro.
	Wow, fabulous.
	Well, that was awesome.
	Six years old.
	That went far too, far too quickly.
	Can we do a longer one with you in the new year sometime?
	At some point, sure.
	Yeah, good.
	What's the name of that, what was it, Danish one you said again?
	Camerlader, or not Camerlader.
	It's already blanked out on me.
	text it to me I'm gonna check it out yeah well there's nothing you can find on it but there's nothing there's nothing no no there's really nothing Wow I have to get my hands on one in a museum we're talking 16 I don't remember the exact date but 1600s oh my god okay yeah and then and then there's like what one or two left or probably I literally have not found a museum that has one yet I'm sure there's one in Germany somewhere That is the grail.
	That is the grail.
	All right, superb job.
	Thanks, Ian.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	Bye.
	Thank you very much.
	All right, 30 seconds, car 15 here.
	Wow, craziness.
	Thank you.
	With more journalism in his little finger than CNN has on its entire network, Sebastian Gorka. - Yeah.
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	Welcome back, dear friends, to America First, one-on-one with me, your host, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump.
	I was recently asked to speak at an event at the Conservative Mothership, the Heritage Foundation, and the hosts had me listed on the program as TV and radio host.
	That was bad enough.
	But they didn't call me a journalist.
	For those of you who are unfamiliar with my background, I spent a long time, about 20 years in the national security field, especially counter-terrorism, ending up as a professor of irregular warfare, National Defense University, at the Marine Corps University, and then running a company that did counter-terrorism training for the FBI, the intelligence community, and parts of the US military.
	As such, I don't consider myself to be a journalist, and I'd love to stay in touch with national security.
	And that's why I'm delighted to have with us somebody who my muse said, I must have her on the show.
	And that is why she is here.
	She is a research fellow at the Center for Technology Policy at the Heritage Foundation.
	Cara Frederick, welcome to One on One.
	Of course.
	Thanks for having me.
	This is like a very impressive bio I have in front of me.
	You have worked as a Senior Intelligence Analyst for the U.S.
	Naval Special Warfare Command.
	Guys, you know what that is.
	Well, you should.
	That's where the frogs, as they like to call themselves, hang out.
	That's where you have individuals who go from being, you know, Green Berets, SEALs, to becoming something a little bit, things that, you know, Denied existed a long time ago, but she has from there gone to the private sector, helping to create the Facebook Global Security Counterterrorism Analysis Program, and today she's going to talk to us about big tech.
	Cara, first things first, let's talk about the state of play, staying open source.
	How good or how weak ...is the collaboration between government, the intelligence community, CT professionals, and the private sector when it comes to identifying threats to America and tracking bad guys.
	Are you satisfied?
	Where are we at?
	So my knowledge is a bit stale.
	I left Facebook in 2017 and we were actively building out that apparatus since going to a smaller national security think tank called the Center for New American Security.
	I'm now at Heritage, but I cut my think tank teeth at a smaller national security focused one.
	And what I advocated there for was more integration.
	So not just integration at higher levels where you have, you know, formal appointees and liaisons in the top offices of some of these intelligence agencies, but mostly on the ground.
	So when we worked overseas with places like you mentioned before, when we were doing our counterterrorism operations overseas, we had these fusion cells that we would call them.
	So we would integrate analysts at the lowest levels.
	And that exchange of know-how, that information sharing, that trading of best practices, I found that that was great and very organic at those levels.
	Because the higher you get, you know, the more strictures there are on what you can and can't say.
	People are very concerned about keeping their jobs and their reputations and the next place that they go.
	So I found it to be a lot more – there was a lot more utility at the lower levels, analyst-to-analyst exchanges.
	So when I was at CNAS, I thought, OK, if we're going to have this digital counterterrorism fight and, you know, maybe fight foreign malign influence operations, then we have to do it at the analyst level.
	So I said, let's fuse.
	Let's do it.
	Remember when Stanley McChrystal had his theory of Intel drives operations.
	So you can sort of apply that to the digital sphere and put those analysts on the ground working together with each other.
	Maybe someone from a threat Intel shop from these private sector companies is co-located with a government FBI analyst or a DIA analyst, and they exchange that organic information.
	I think the Biden administration is sort of thinking about something like that.
	You see the contours of these ideas sort of spread when they talk about countering malign foreign influence operations.
	I haven't seen it enacted yet, but I think that on that ground level analysis, I think that is that integration is critical.
	When I was at Facebook, we had a very robust apparatus for law enforcement response requests.
	So when it came to child exploitation, there was a lot of back and forth between law enforcement and the interaction between Facebook and the government.
	And this is all, you know, again, open source and people know this.
	They have transparency reports that they submit quarterly about law enforcement response requests.
	So that's sort of the level of the collaboration.
	How much is all of this driven by how much of a problem is the difference of difference of perspective from what you were doing as a counterterrorism intelligence professional for the SEALs and for others?
	Vice, the private sector, Facebook, Twitter, Signal and everything else that, you know, one half of that equation is driven by national security requirements.
	reasons.
	The other half, I think, for a large part of their activity, are worried about liability.
	They don't think in terms of national security, so aren't they discussing, aren't they communicating on completely different frequencies, Cara?
	Oh, they've completely lost their way.
	So this was, you know, when I advocated for this integration, I think this was two, three years ago, and everything was kind of going as it should, right?
	Like, people were understanding that foreign malign influence operations, that
	Foreign Islamic terrorism was a problem, that actual child exploitation was a problem, but now I think these companies are focused way more on political viewpoint censorship, and the Biden administration, all of our institutions and agencies right now, we're sort of inflating these definitions of extremism, of disinformation, of hate speech, of harm and safety in a way that is incongruent, I think, with the actual real threat.
	So if these private companies could actually stick to that foreign malign, Influence operations emanating from actual states, like have state links to them.
	I know attribution is getting more and more difficult.
	These state actors do this on purpose.
	They delegate and deputize patriotic netizens to conduct some of these disinformation operations.
	However, if companies can actually focus on that and the real problems, then, you know, all of these recommendations would hold and we'd be in a much better spot.
	Yeah, I'm asking, well we're going to touch, we're going to actually delve deeply into that, you know, question of the politicization of the, you know, social media and the IT community.
	What I'm asking first, before we get there, is companies aren't thinking about national security, governments are, companies are thinking about profit margins and liability.
	As a result, aren't you always going to have a lack of capacity to actually speak the same language?
	I think you're right.
	I think you are right.
	Because one thing that I learned at Facebook is they cared, first and foremost, about three things.
	That bottom line, at all costs, right?
	Growth, again, at all costs, and then their brand and reputation.
	But the American government, right, they have a charge of securing the homeland for the American people.
	So you're right.
	There are always going to sort of be ships passing in the night in that regard.
	It is that brand and reputation element.
	I think that makes them sort of think, OK, when we have our true liability considerations, we can liaise and work with the government because we want our brand and reputation to be solid.
	We want to be able to say if there was any sort of operational planning conducted on our platform by a foreign terrorist that we did our due diligence.
	We investigated it.
	We made sure to the best possible degree that this couldn't happen in the future specifically.
	So I think it's very important for them from a liability brand and reputation standpoint.
	And that's when those goals converge, but only then.
	And how much, I'm curious, having been inside the belly of the beast at Facebook, how much of an oddity were you, meaning somebody who actually understands national security?
	Are you very much in the minority or are there more people in that industry who actually get what the threat is?
	So there's a difference between when I got there and now.
	So when I got there in 2016, I would say that there was a decided lack of geopolitical cognition.
	You know, you're working at a company, you think that the locus of power in the universe is in Silicon Valley.
	You don't really care what's going on in DC.
	You don't care about those national security professionals and their stuffy jackets and their sensible black shoes.
	That's not something you're thinking about.
	You're thinking about we are at the forefront of everything.
	We're building.
	We're shipping.
	We're building.
	We're shipping.
	We're doing it.
	So you don't necessarily think of yourselves as protecting the homeland, protecting America.
	You think of yourselves as a global entity responsible to a global constituency.
	And you build and you ship, and that's the ethos of the place.
	So, you know, the person next to you, they might be on a visa from China, from India, and they're just your co-worker.
	They're just the programmer.
	But when, you know, I came in, I had been an embed at the National Security Agency, so I had that sort of patina following me.
	Some of my friends weren't exactly happy about that, given the Snowden revelations and whatnot.
	How did your colleagues treat you at Facebook?
	Um, some were not pleased to shake my hand, and when I told them what I had done, some were impressed, right?
	Because there's name recognition when you work with Navy SEALs, people sort of understand what you did.
	So some people, I would say mostly some of the early legal immigrants would be like, Wow, that's so cool.
	We watch this stuff on TV.
	Are you Carrie Madison?
	So like, in dorky ways like that.
	But other people met me with a lot of skepticism.
	Yep, I wasn't a programmer.
	I came in.
	Very, very, very much not of their world.
	We're talking to Cara Frederick of the Heritage Foundation, formerly worked with the Naval Special Warfare Command.
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	Okay, cyber, information security, social media.
	Let's start at the recent news.
	We have built in the last 20 years truly An enviable capacity.
	The way I used to describe it when I was teaching this stuff is our tactical and operational ability globally is unmatched.
	If we have your coordinates, if you're a high-value target, we can reach out and kill you within 72 hours.
	If we have SecDef or POTUS or presidential sign-off, we can get rid of you if you're a threat to the United States, if you're Al-Qaeda, ISIS or what have you.
	It's great.
	It's not very strategic, but tactically it is superb.
	Today, after 20 years of building this capacity, we're seeing counter-terrorism capabilities, Cara, being used for domestic purposes against those that are political targets of administration.
	I look specifically The letter from the National Association of School Boards that was written in collusion, we now know this, with the White House, the Biden White House, before it was sent to AG Merrick Garland at the Department of Justice.
	And the letter talks about using tools, counterterrorism, national security tools, to target, surveil parents who are standing up at school boards because they don't like Critical race theory being taught or they don't like their children being in masks for eight hours a day when there really is a nominal threat to anybody under the age of 18 who's healthy.
	Will you talk to us about what you are witnessing in this field as a former practitioner in the national security domain and give us your assessment of how worried all Americans of any political identity should be?
	This is the thing that should send a chill up everybody's spines.
	Full stop.
	Because when the use of counterterrorism tools to direct it against Americans and their political viewpoints, normalizing the repurposing of counterterrorism tools for this purpose is absolutely terrifying and I think it's only going to accelerate and increase.
	And we're seeing, as we said, in the physical space, this has happened with the National School Board Association, with DOJ and the counter-terrorism elements of the FBI getting on this within five days, that's, that alacrity.
	Which, which, which, which, yeah, that alacrity, as a former federal employee, I have never seen, unless it was, you know, a threat of imminent terrorist incident in the United States, the idea that a government agency, based upon a private letter from a non-governmental association, deployed intelligence assets within six days, never happened before.
	And we're seeing the seeds of this develop in the digital space now as well.
	In July, there was a pilot program where Facebook threw out extremism warnings if you engage with mainstream conservative content.
	So, you know, your grandmother could be looking at a Fox News article and she would get a warning, oh, you may have engaged with extremism.
	Dabbling in extremism.
	And that was a pilot program rolled out by Facebook in July of this year.
	You have one of the co-founders of Google, this is according to Molly Hemingway's reporting, he's said that Trump voters were extremists and considered using and repurposing the technology incubator Jigsaw, which was originally created to counter foreign Islamic terrorism, to influence Trump voters.
	And that's again Molly Hemingway's reporting in her book.
	Rigged so you're starting to see sort of the seeds of this development now the global internet forum to counter terrorism this is sort of a consortium of big companies and small companies and Organizations they have hash sharing databases of things that were supposed to be foreign islamic terrorism focused like isis flags and now they're expanding those databases to include a Yeah.
	leaning content.
	And there's sort of a general trajectory of focusing on inflated definitions of extremism, of white supremacists, because we all know Joe Biden tweeted out that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist as well.
	And you have what's extremely troubling to me, too, and not just in the digital space, but these former counterterrorism officials in Democrat administrations saying that, you know, people who may have said over the loudspeaker, a pilot, a Let's Go Brandon, that he could be compared to an ISIS lover. that he could be compared to an ISIS lover.
	And then what would that happen?
	So what would happen then?
	So you're sort of seeing the normalization of people conflating Trump supporters mostly with extremists, with white supremacists, with domestic extremism.
	And that, to me, is starting to sort of normalize the way that people look at their fellow countrymen.
	And it's very specific in the government as well.
	Terrorism, extremism, those definitions mean something.
	They mean action on the government's part.
	And when we're already normalizing this on Twitter, in the rest of the culture, on digital platforms, when some of those powerful people in the world, like the Google co-founder, are actively saying Trump supporters are enthralled to extremism, then you have a massive problem.
	Yeah.
	Let me ask you this, which is a more personal question.
	You see all of this happening as a Marine Corps brat, as somebody who worked closely with the SEALs, part of the intelligence community.
	How disappointing, or what is your reaction to the fact that I haven't seen anybody resign because of this?
	When, you know, If I'm a part of the national security branch of the DOJ, and I'm getting a tasking that, oh, this school parent could be a problem because she spoke against I don't know, pedophilic porn at the Fairfax County School Board.
	Why aren't we seeing, you know, people who took an oath of office like you did, like I did, to protect the Constitution say, excuse me, this is wrong, here are my credentials, here's my CAT card, I'm walking out of here.
	I think we as a nation right now are so cowed.
	We're so cowed by the culture which has been captured by this progressive leftist ideology.
	We're so cowed by an administration that says we're not going to focus on foreign conflict.
	We're not going to focus on the genuine real threats like from our adversary, China.
	Heck, we're not even going to call the CCP an adversary.
	We're going to act like we're going to placate.
	We're going to be obsequious to our enemies.
	So when the state actually turns inward and focuses on a specific subset of the population and has tried over and over again to stratify the country, to make conservative second class citizens, that is reason enough to be afraid.
	I mean, if you're a GS in one of these positions, you're shaking in your boots, not just for vaccine mandates, et cetera, et cetera, but you're very aware that if you speak out, then you could be targeted, that you could be on the chopping block next.
	I mean, the self-censorship that this is engendering is massive as well.
	You know, people might have the impulse to speak out, to turn in their badge, but look what happened to the Marine, Lieutenant Colonel, when he said somebody should be held accountable for the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.
	The only people that are punished are those at the lower levels.
	Nobody at the top who's actually pushing these progressive policies is being punished whatsoever, so why would a regular GS who has to feed his family, why would they speak up?
	Because America's worth it.
	That's why.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	So, what do we do about all this?
	You've mapped out for us that there's a problem.
	National security tools are being used by the state against those who politically disagree with the state, who aren't revolutionaries, aren't a threat.
	And private sector, Facebook, Twitter, et cetera, are colluding with the state entities.
	We have some great news.
	We have the president's Truth Social platform being launched next year.
	Rumble has said we will be the video provider, the data storage You know, a company for President Trump's new platform.
	Do you welcome these alternatives like Parler, like Rumble, like Getter?
	Or are we running the risk of ghettoizing conservative content and seeding the battlefield to the censorious, what Breitbart calls the galactic overlords, the masters of Palo Alto?
	I think there's an element of that, but I do think that the only choice we may have in the future is to build out of it, so we have to start now.
	And you don't just look at the big tech platforms, right?
	So Rumble is a YouTube competitor, Parler is a Twitter competitor, that's great.
	We want those alternatives, we need to build those, and especially we need to build At all layers of the digital stack.
	So when Parler, the plug was pulled, it went dark because its cloud hosting service, Amazon Web Services, withdrew services from Parler.
	The data storage facility was Amazon and they said, we don't like you, you're conservatives.
	Not good planning on the part of Parler.
	Exactly.
	So we have to build out those mid-tier to more foundational layers.
	But that's big news, isn't it?
	Well, these new entrants do really well when they're backed by a billionaire backer, so Peter Thiel backing Rumble.
	And they have in their big business proposition, they hope to, at least the last I read, have those cloud hosting services as well.
	So critically important.
	But again, not just the big tech companies.
	You're looking at online digital payment processors.
	Yes.
	So let's stop here.
	I wanted to ask you this.
	When you hear the story that broke maybe two months ago that Mike Flynn, Mike Flynn's wife has her credit card canceled by the bank because she's married to Mike Flynn.
	I mean, This is more than having your Twitter page deleted, right?
	Exactly.
	It's the constriction of your digital life based on your political viewpoint.
	So it is the For his defense.
	of a second class of citizenry based off of how they think.
	And this, to me, is fundamentally un-American.
	But you have most companies joining in now.
	You have online fundraising platforms, GoFundMe.
	When Kyle Rittenhouse got in trouble in Kenosha, GoFundMe actually paid funds to the rioters, and they wouldn't let him set up a fundraising account for Kyle Rittenhouse's defense.
	For his defense.
	Exactly, exactly.
	GoDaddy, they are a web hosting service, and they kicked off a website that was supporting the Texas Heartbeat Act.
	You look at Kickstarter, they wouldn't allow an anti-abortion film to be advertised on their platform.
	You look at MailChimp.
	This is an email delivery service, and there's a group called Women for America First kicked them off.
	They kicked off the Babylon Bee temporarily as well until they raised a stink about it.
	They had enough wasta to do it, so that was good.
	But the Northern Virginia Tea Party, also their services were suspended by MailChimp.
	So it's not just these big social media platforms, but it's as daily life Increasingly takes on digital characteristics.
	Our world is getting smaller and smaller and smaller because we think a certain way.
	So, conservatives, this should be a clarion call.
	We have to build anew.
	We have to start somewhere.
	Again, all of the technical advantages that accrue by Google having started years ago and Facebook as well, we've got to catch up somehow and I think we have to start today.
	Yes, we still have to be on these platforms, as Seth Dillon from Babylon Bee says, yeah, we gotta fight for our right to be there, I agree with him.
	But at the same time, as Bridget Phetasy says, whom you probably know, diversify or die.
	Because, you know, you build in some redundancy because you're gonna be dead in the water otherwise.
	We're talking to a research fellow at the Center for Technology Policy of the Heritage Foundation, Cara Frederick, formerly with Facebook, and worked with U.S.
	Naval Special Warfare Command, as well as many other positions.
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	Kara, big question.
	You know, what is it?
	Lenin, who said it?
	What is to be done?
	What is to be done with big tech?
	They cancelled a man who received 74 million votes.
	74 million votes with more than 90 million followers on Twitter.
	Nixed.
	Like that.
	Off Twitter, off Facebook, off Instagram.
	A couple of suggestions coming from Capitol Hill.
	How do you rate these or are we missing something?
	We have number one, the idea that the 230 immunity for internet social media platforms should be nixed.
	They said we are not publishers, therefore you can't sue us.
	Well, if you're editing, if you're censoring, you are publishers.
	Or the other argument that they are utilities and must be treated as utilities, meaning you can't limit access to a phone, therefore you can't limit access to Facebook or Twitter.
	Or do we break them up, like we did with Marbel, or is there another response?
	So I think first and foremost, you strip immunity from civil liability if these companies censor based on political viewpoints.
	So that should be non-negotiable.
	So the 230 should go.
	So I think you reform Section 230.
	So there's a concern about if you completely remove Section 230.
	Others have written about this, that these platforms, they are in...
	They tend to go for an over-removal bias, especially smaller companies as well.
	So there's a school of thought where if these come, if it's completely gone, then these companies are going to be more merciless in their censorship.
	They're going to go for broke.
	They're going to say, okay, SubGorka wants to say something.
	Oh, we have people.
	So I see.
	So they're not immune.
	Therefore they will, if they are publishers, they're going to publish even less views.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And they will just start to remove everything, scorched earth, especially when it comes to conservatives, because we know that leftists are particularly vociferous when it comes to any conservative having an opinion.
	So they're going to complain.
	I'm sure they would be overly litigious, as they tend to be.
	So that over-removal bias on behalf of smaller companies and bigger companies, I think they would just become even more of these censorship machines that they already are.
	So what do we do?
	So you reform it.
	You strip immunity if they do censor based off of political viewpoints.
	But there's no if about it.
	They're doing it.
	They are doing it.
	Yep.
	So then you don't let them become immune if they actually do that.
	And so you layer on these incentivizations for transparency as well.
	So some of these companies, they voluntarily give transparency reports and it's about stuff they only really want you to see.
	Like I said in the beginning, the FBI requested this much information from us at this time.
	So those kinds of things.
	But they should be responsible for their content moderation policies and Explaining to the American people how they... But who cares if they say, I moderated and I censored Gorka because he said this about Ivermectin.
	So what?
	Does that stop them from doing it?
	Well, if there's a public availability component, then they can't hide under a gauze of deniability.
	No, but what is the consequence to them?
	Oh, money, money.
	You mean in terms of legal action that I have to take?
	That too.
	So I think the private right of action conversations are very interesting.
	So, you know, you have to give people their power and their recourse back.
	You have to make these companies give prompt and meaningful recourse to humans such as yourself, humans like people even in my office who've been censored.
	Right now, if you ask a question of YouTube, nothing.
	Get a zip.
	You contravened our community standards.
	That's the boilerplate.
	Nobody knows.
	Exactly.
	So there's no prompt and meaningful recourse right now.
	So make the companies actually institute and implement that prompt and meaningful recourse.
	That's huge.
	And have penalties if they don't.
	Have teeth.
	And that's the problem.
	Now a lot of these companies will absorb these huge multi-million dollar fines because that's just a drop in the bucket for them.
	So you have to think seriously about those numbers.
	You have to think seriously about the company scale as well.
	I also think there's a privacy element here and there's two components of it.
	So I do think we need some sort of a data protection framework.
	So you as the user should know how your data is being collected, how it's being stored and who it's being shared with.
	But there's no way they're going to give us that because that is their bread and butter.
	I mean, you are the product.
	The user is the product.
	They are selling your proclivities, your internet history to advertisers.
	That's how you're getting micro-tagged.
	The idea that, you know, six billion users are going to be given the data access from Facebook, I mean, the only thing they'd be doing is providing data.
	And most people, when your phone updates, oh, do you accept the terms of Facebook?
	Nobody reads those I mean, you're selling everything about yourself for free, but nobody reads them, Kara, so we need realistic options.
	Well, that's why it doesn't get to be voluntary anymore.
	That's why there has to be some teeth to it.
	Legislation has to have some teeth, and conservatives have to not be afraid to give legislation actual teeth.
	So none of this namby-pamby, squishy, like, companies should do this, please, companies, let's do this, because as we know, the proof is in the pudding, they're not doing it.
	Hit him in the ad tech model.
	Hit him in the privacy data model.
	There's another element here, algorithmic transparency, right?
	This is- But they're not gonna give away their code.
	They're not gonna tell you, are they?
	They don't have to tell you what the code is and how it's designed, necessarily.
	There are proprietary concerns there.
	However, if you ask them to tell you how it operates and what impacts it has on users, they're going to have to tighten it up.
	They're not going to be able to just have to admit it when Frances Haugen leaked some whistleblower docs after the change in 2018 that nobody knew about until now.
	So if there's some tea to this legislation and that they're made to do this— Please don't call Haugen a whistleblower because she ain't a whistleblower.
	You're the operative, the democratic operative.
	Thank you, the pseudo-whistleblower from Facebook.
	Okay, what about the argument, I need your input, that these are utilities and they can't limit access to anybody?
	Yeah, I think you can never go wrong when Clarence Thomas says a thing.
	Yes, when he makes that observation.
	So when he says that there's a lack of viable alternatives, I think the American polity has to seriously consider that.
	And the size, the scale, the reach of these platforms, people say we've seen it all before, but we have not seen it all before.
	This moment is entirely different because of that, because of the virality of their platforms as well, because of how dominant they've been allowed to be under a government intervention, which Section 230 is a government intervention.
	So they've been allowed to grow with a special government protection, which, okay, if you can apply equally, that's fine, some better than others.
	But I do think we need to take a serious look at the practices of these companies and think about giving legislation some teeth in that regard.
	There's another element, too.
	I think the business fraud, the breach of contract aspect.
	Explain that. - Right, so they grew, they said that we are democratizers of information.
	We are being built to connect the world and we are pure.
	Zuckerberg, as late as 2018, in October, stood in front of a Georgetown audience and said, we are going to be the platform that stands up for freedom of expression.
	We've seen since then, they've absolutely abrogated these values.
	They grew, they dominated the market, everyone believed them.
	We eagerly signed up for these platforms because we thought, yes, these are neutral gatekeepers of information.
	They're fun, they're interesting, they're great, all my friends are here.
	And yet they now have gone back on that promise.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	We'll be right back.
	What is your advice, as somebody who's lived on the high side, the classified side of all of this, somebody who worked inside Facebook to try and counter the terrorist threats on social media, and now somebody who's at the Concerted Mothership of the Heritage Foundation, what is your advice to our millions of listeners and viewers when it comes to their use of social media and the management of their
	Online information.
	I would say be as circumspect about the platforms that you use as possible.
	I would say first and foremost, no American should be on TikTok because of the parent company ByteDance, beholden to the CCP.
	Anything that you do on TikTok, yep, China is got your number, period.
	So and don't let your kids get on TikTok either.
	not even talking about the moral issues of TikTok and how it's tearing at the fabric of our society by the social contagions that it pushes.
	But I would say look for these companies and these platforms that value privacy-preserving technologies.
	So the Signal Foundation created Signal.
	That grew out of one of the co-founders.
	He basically didn't want any sort of communist ethos.
	He lived under a surveillance state, and he didn't want this to happen again.
	That's how WhatsApp was created.
	Then they sold it to Facebook, and now it's gone.
	So in the Signal Foundation, they are, at least for now, committed to actual privacy.
	So if you're talking, if you're having any sort of direct message conversation, Twitter DMs compromised.
	Make sure you're on Signal if you're a conservative at this point.
	You should be on Signal.
	Then keep your eyes open for when that inevitably gets exploited.
	Hopefully not.
	But I would say right now, let a million signals flourish.
	If you're using a search engine, use DuckDuckGo instead of Google.
	Don't keep feeding the beast in this regard.
	So no TikTok.
	Use Signal.
	on privacy-preserving technologies that will allow your PII, your personally identifiable information, to be more secure than just a company that has some lazy, fair privacy by design element to it.
	And when it comes to hardware, where do you stand on the universal monopoly that iPhones have?
	You know, it's a good product for the hardware.
	For now, I'm unfortunately going to keep using my iPhone until a better alternative comes along.
	But if conservatives make a better version of an iPhone, they should probably start now.
	I'd love to use it a few years down the road.
	So just be as careful as possible right now if you have to use an iPhone.
	Again, good product.
	I love American innovation.
	But what we're seeing right now is a perversion of what we could be and what we used to be, frankly.
	Well, that was fascinating.
	I could continue for hours.
	Thank you for your service to this nation, for working with those... They have ego issues, but we love them all, the SEALs.
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