Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden wants 5-year-olds vaccinated
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has changed Thank you.
Prior to the crisis, we cheered.
You know, they focus on lean, efficient supply chains, leaving no buffer or margin for error when it comes to certain parts.
Arriving just in time is needed to make a final product.
Our administration, Barack and ours, we That's where we was just in time was the focus.
We didn't have a pandemic and other things at the time.
Enough of the senile old man.
Enough.
Kill the mic.
Kill the mic!
Welcome, dear friends.
Sebastian Gorka here, former strategist to President Trump, member of the National Security Education Board.
Yes, still a member.
I wonder if he's afraid of me.
That is sleepy, creepy, senile Joe Biden talking right now about the supply chain crisis.
A hundred mega cargo ships off the coast of California, unable to disgorge their tens of thousands of cargo containers.
Why?
Well, because of Joe Biden.
Because of perhaps the most inept president of the modern age.
I ask you one question and one question alone.
What would Donald Trump be doing right now if there were a supply chain crisis with a hundred cargo ships off the port of LA?
There wouldn't be a crisis, because he's a businessman and he solves problems.
Under this administration, I guarantee you one thing, I'm not a betting man, you know me.
It's the scourge, the scourge of civilized society.
But I guarantee you this, it's going to get worse.
Much, much worse before it gets better.
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Yesterday, we discussed with Luke Rosiak the tragic, tragic story Of a young girl being raped in a school and the rapist being free to rape again.
The individual who was at the heart of that story as the father of the first victim has reached out to us and we are honored to have him on America First today as our first guest.
Scott Smith, welcome to the Salem Radio Network.
Hi, how are you?
I'm well, I'm well.
I appreciate you reaching out through our Newsmax colleagues to our producers here at America First.
Would you, I want to allow you the time here on America First.
Would you tell us the story of, you are known because of the legacy-lying media as a dangerous parent who was arrested at a school board meeting.
What is the truth about your story and your family's story, Mr. Smith?
Well, the truth of the matter of the story is that my daughter was sexually assaulted at the end of May, the last week or so of school of last year.
And it was a complete nightmare to get my daughter to where she needed to be and the proper people to step up and do the right thing.
Can you describe the category of the person who raped your daughter or assaulted her in the Loudoun County School?
What was he doing in that restroom?
What was he wearing?
Well, apparently, allegedly, he was wearing a shirt.
And, uh, that's all I really know.
Um, the way, you know, he's been described to me is, you know, he is a bisexual male that likes to occasionally wear dresses.
Which is really irreverent because You know, it doesn't matter if he was wearing a skirt, you know, at the end of the day, my daughter was raped.
Right, but the school board meeting in Loudoun, where you were arrested, what was the policy that was being discussed?
Because surely it is connected to this whole transgender agenda.
Exactly.
So, you know, basically, the policy that was being discussed was, you know, equal rights for transgenders, which, hey, I want all transgenders to be safe and protected.
But the way it was going about, and this and that and the other, it was insane.
But I didn't even know anything about it, really, until my daughter, you know, had been assaulted.
I went to a school board meeting a couple weeks later to see what the TV was saying all about.
Never been to a school board meeting before.
And I sat there and listened to lie after lie.
So this is the school board that said, as they're approving this policy for transgender students, said, there is no danger, nothing has ever happened in transgenders using the other bathroom.
They did that in front of you, right?
They lied about this policy and the risks involved.
They lied right in front of me and it was like knocking me unconscious.
It was like, It infuriated me to hear Beth Bart, you know, say we didn't need, you know, our children didn't need to be protected and that, you know, there was no evidence of any sexual assaults in any bathrooms.
And then, you know, the superintendent Corbo, no, Ziegler, you know, he straight up lied twice in that school board meeting.
Which brings me to the next thing is that, you know, my daughter's doing well.
How is she doing?
How is she recovering?
She's recovering well and she's doing real well.
And I just wanted to throw that out there.
You know, this crazy stuff that's going on is insane.
You know, I was bullied by a parent activist.
I was, you know, I feel unjustly, you know, grabbed by the, you know, the sheriff's department and the rest was, you know, sprawled all over the media all summer long.
And you've been charged, correct, with breach of the peace?
Oh yeah, I got charged and convicted and I was railroaded by, you know, our Zora funded, you know, Buddha, Buddha Rod, uh, You know, attorney, you know, she's the problem in our county.
Is there any way that our listeners can support you?
Is there a GoFundMe page?
Is there a website where they can support you, Mr. Smith?
We do.
We have a GoFundMe page.
It's called Safety.
Somebody just tell me.
Safe Schools.
Mr. Smith?
I'm sorry.
Yes, I'm here.
It's a GoFundMe page?
Safe schools?
Yes.
Safe schools.
Legal fund.
Safe.
S-A-F-E.
Schools.
Legal fund.
All right, well we're going to continue to cover this story because the most shocking aspect of all is not only was your daughter assaulted, not only did the school board in Loudoun County lie about that assault, that no such assault has occurred as they voted in this new transgender policy, The student, the male student in a skirt that assaulted your daughter was quietly moved to another school where he raped again.
This is the true cost of the radicals, of the transgender radical agenda.
It is costing the safety of young girls in America, not just in Loudoun County.
Violence against transgenders, how about transgender Violence against our girls in America.
Safe Schools GoFundMe.
Look for it right now.
We're going to pray for you and your daughter.
That's Scott Smith.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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Mics are back on.
You know what it really is.
Biden finally got his boat parade.
I just want to know if 10% of the containers are going to the big guy.
I was not even aware of this until like literally yesterday.
It happened so fast.
Can you play me yesterday's cut 8 newt?
Yesterday's 8 newt.
Here it is.
I mean, what you're beginning to move towards is a war between, I don't mean a physical war, but a cultural war between the bureaucracy... Oh, we played that yesterday.
Yeah, we did, we did.
Sorry, I thought I hadn't played that.
Oh, okay.
Okay, alright.
Anything else from yesterday?
I think we played most of them.
I think we did.
Yeah.
We played everything except Saki.
And McAuliffe, we did.
Actually, play nine.
Nine from yesterday.
Governor Abbott's executive order banning mandates, and I would also note announcement by Governor DeSantis this morning, essentially banning the implementation of mandates, fit a familiar pattern that we've seen of putting politics ahead of public health.
All right.
That's funny.
I'm going to tee that up, and then I'm going to go to Jenna.
Yesterday's cut nine, and then Jenna.
Copy that.
Teed up.
All righty.
Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gorka. - Thank you.
Good.
Just remember the mics are on during the commercial break.
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50 seconds.
All right, hang on.
And up we go.
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Jenna.
Hi, how are you?
Good, good.
Let's talk mandates.
Can we do that?
Yes, absolutely.
Good.
That's really important.
Good.
All right, coming in with that cut.
No, he's going to tee it up.
Oh, you're going to tee it up?
I'm going to tee it up.
Oh, you're going to tee it up.
Okay.
Yesterday's nine.
30 seconds.
Yep.
30 seconds.
Anything else?
Merch and that cut.
Standing by.
What we've got.
Alright, yep.
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Stay by.
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Let's stay on the issue of mandates and get the bizarro world interpretation of what's happening in America.
We can always rely on her for that.
She's Jen Psaki.
Governor Abbott's executive order banning mandates, and I would also note announcement by Governor DeSantis this morning, essentially banning the implementation of mandates, fit a familiar pattern that we've seen of putting politics ahead of public health.
Putting politics ahead of public health.
Oh, really?
Because Democrats never do that.
Let's ask somebody who fights for the Constitution and our Bill of Rights every single day, former Attorney to President Trump, Chair of the National Integrity Board, the National Election Integrity Alliance, of which I am also a member.
Jenna Ellis, welcome back to America First.
Thanks so much.
Always great to join you, my friend.
So I'm gonna read a tweet from your feed from an individual.
I have no idea who this individual is.
As soon as I saw it I clicked on his account and he blocked me.
I love it when I find people I've never heard of who've blocked me.
It means exactly I know who you are.
He's called The Ricky Davila.
No idea who he is.
Last year he tweeted this and it's on your feed.
Anything that Kaylee McNazi Okay, he's got a photograph of Katie McEnany.
Katie McNarty brazenly calls the Trump vaccine with a crooked smile on her face is something I will never put in my body.
Nope.
And then a tweet from earlier this year.
I don't, from the same guy.
I don't know about you, but I'm still proud as hell to be fully vaccinated.
With the Trump vaccine?
Okay, Jenna, they never let politics get in the way of health, do they?
Of course not, because everything, as you know, the Democrats are just concerned about health and safety.
They're just concerned about, you know, women's health care when they're out advocating for murdering babies in the womb.
You know, this always is all about just doing good and humanitarianism for the Democrats, right?
There's never any politics, but it's shocking to me And it probably shouldn't be at this point because Democrats really just have one play, hypocrisy.
But it's shocking to me that the very same Democrats, including Jen Psaki, including Kamala Harris, by the way, including all of these people who are on Twitter who are for vaccine mandates, are the same ones.
Who loudly said, we will never, ever, ever take a vaccine if it was created by Donald Trump.
And so now what's the difference?
Well, of course, coercion is the difference and they're seeing that they can implement socialism.
They can get really bad precedent for government coercion on the books if they go with this vaccine, which, which of course the Biden administration doesn't want to acknowledge was actually designed under President Trump.
Right.
And not only that, we have the breaking news that the Biden administration is preparing to make it so that five-year-olds should be vaccinated.
One of our team members said to America First when they heard that this morning, they said, that's it.
That is the straw that breaks the camel's back.
Americans aren't going to put up with that.
Do you agree, Jenna?
Oh, of course.
And wherever your personal line is, You know, for anyone who's listening, the line should be at liberty and freedom, because even if you don't personally think that this is the hill to die on or that the vaccine mandate, you know, like there was a guy on my Twitter feed that was like, you know, this is just a really small thing for the NBA player who's, you know, giving up this huge job.
And I quote tweeted him and said, liberty is never a small thing.
This is something that absolutely is the site we need to fight because if they can mandate vaccines and coerce private companies like Southwest Airlines, like other private companies, and I have I have clients mouths of inquiries around the country for people who are being coerced by their private employer under the auspices of a Biden mandate to get this vaccine and even religious exemption.
So this is exactly you read my mind, Jenna.
This is, every day, literally every day, I'm getting texts, emails, and especially DMs on Twitter and Facebook from people who are saying, what do I do, Dr. G?
I don't want to get the vaccine.
They want to fine me by the end of the month.
Yesterday I got one from a member of a, I don't know how to identify him, but from a religious minority, works for the VA, the Veterans Administration.
He is vaccinated, Jenna!
But he refuses to comply with the federal mandate where he has to prove, out of principle, he doesn't want to prove it because it's his own personal private health information.
What, as a practicing attorney, constitutional law professor, former attorney to President Trump, what is the right thing to say to these people who want to put up a stand but feel to be by themselves?
Get a lawyer.
Absolutely.
And there are actually more cases around the country of people like this who want to stand up than there are lawyers available to fight this.
And so be part of a coalition.
Be part of whether it's the Alliance Defending Freedom, whether it's the Thomas More Society.
I am an allied attorney with both.
Whether it's the Liberty Council out of Florida that are fighting this.
There are a lot of nonprofits around the country that particularly For the religious exemptions, this is something that falls squarely under the First Amendment, not only for free exercise of religion and in terms of the EEOC requiring employers to acknowledge and to to have Uh, these types of exemptions that they accommodate and these religious accommodations, but also it is a matter of freedom of speech.
I mean, this is something where, um, you know, a matter of privacy, it's a matter of so many different things that touch and concern our own bodily autonomy or an individual freedom and liberty.
So absolutely, um, go to one of these nonprofits.
Even if you can't get an attorney to represent you specifically, you may be able to be part of a class action.
Look at what's going on with Southwest with their lawsuit in Texas.
That is filed where, you know, the union, typically conservatives don't like unions a lot, but this is one instance where they're saying, on behalf of all of our pilots, you can't unilaterally modify our employment contracts.
There are so many different ways that we can and should fight this, but we have to do so smartly.
And we also have to do so knowing that in the immediate sense, we may lose the first round.
You may be fired from your job.
You may be put on unpaid leave.
But at the same time, is that worse?
standing up for your liberty and freedom.
And I think that it is a lot of people around the country believe that it is.
And we are going to have to stand together and fight this.
If every federal contractor, by the way, and every union organizer like Southwest, if they all stood up and just said, no, this is absolutely unconstitutional, federal government couldn't get away with it.
It's safety in numbers.
Next time I said it to the pilots at Southwest.
God bless all of you for what you did this weekend.
But next time, don't take a sickie.
Stand up for your personal liberties now or never.
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Yeah.
Thank you, my dear.
Absolutely.
Are we done?
We are done.
Yeah, we're done.
Oh, fantastic.
All right.
Well, I will see you soon.
And Rudy says hi, by the way.
Exxon, I'm up here in New York with him and Andrew at an event tonight.
Excellent.
Say hi to him.
Yeah, we love him so much.
So yeah, thank you.
And I'll talk to you soon.
All righty.
Thanks, Jenna.
Play Cut 9.
Cut 9 from today.
All right.
And...
Part of the problem, and I write about this in the book, is for four years, people like Steve Bannon believed that they could thumb their nose at the Congress, they could ignore subpoenas, even Republican subpoenas, and they would be protected by a Department of Justice leadership that would never go after them.
But if Steve Bannon thinks that's the case now, he's going to find out otherwise.
Stopped, and give me a second here.
Okay.
Okay, we're doing MyPillow and Relief here.
*clicks* Yeah.
Okay.
All right, can you...
Cut six.
Cut six.
Okay, from today.
Yes.
Holiday expectations management as we're looking at these supply chain issues.
How bad are they going to get for Americans?
And I'm talking specifically, you know, leading here into the December holidays where people are relying on getting goods, on getting presents.
Well, I think there's always been two kinds of Christmas shoppers.
There's the ones who have all their list completed by Halloween, and then there's people like me who show up at the mall on Christmas Eve.
If you're in that latter bucket, obviously there's going to be more challenges.
God, that twit.
Oh, Pelosi.
Oh, no.
Gutfeld, five.
Aiders head coach John Gruden has stepped down after leaked emails surfaced, chock full of colorful language many describe as homophobic, racist, and misogynistic.
Gruden apologized for that last week, but there's no point apologizing to people who won't forgive.
An apology has less chance of success than Brian Stelter running up a flight of stairs.
The New York Times got its hands on even more emails, because as you know, they'll cover racist emails as long as they're not from Hunter Biden.
Okay, good.
Will you come in with that?
Coming in with Gutfeld Cut 5.
All righty.
35 seconds.
Okay.
Yep.
30.
And one more time, we're doing My Pillar Relief Action.
Yeah, well, I'll try and do My Pillar.
We'll see.
Yeah, we can always move it around.
All right, 20 seconds, stand by.
All right, 20 seconds, 20 seconds, stand by. stand by.
Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
Raiders head coach John Gruden has stepped down after leaked emails surfaced, chock full of colorful language many describe as homophobic, racist, and misogynistic.
Gruden apologized for that last week, but there's no point apologizing to people who won't forgive.
An apology has less chance of success than Brian Stelter running up a flight of stairs.
The New York Times got its hands on even more emails, because as you know, they'll cover racist emails as long as they're not from Hunter Biden.
Greg Gutfeld crushing it.
He's beating all the competition in the fake news industrial complex for his late night show.
God bless Greg for being funny but also a truth teller.
I have to consult my sports in-house expert, the Gruden story.
Mr. G, big, important, what are the lessons learned?
Um, that you should fight back and not resign.
And never bloody apologize, right?
Yes, it doesn't get you anywhere.
It's useless to apologize.
What does he think he's achieved now?
And the first thing is, too, as soon as the first email came out, it's the New York Times.
You know that they're going to come back three days later with more and more and more.
No, but you have to fight back.
If you look at anybody's emails over 10 years, you're gonna find something that could get you cancelled.
Yeah, of course.
And the idea that you placate anybody, that suddenly they like you, it's just garbage.
Never, ever apologize.
Somebody who, uh...
...doesn't apologize is the man who had the title Chief Strategist in the White House, Steve Bannon, the host of War Room, and they've subpoenaed him.
The January the 6th Committee has subpoenaed Steve Bannon, amongst others, including Kash Patel and Katrina Pearson and Adam Schiff.
Well, he's still living in an alternate universe.
Cut nine!
Part of the problem, and I write about this in the book, is for four years, people like Steve Bannon believed that they could thumb their nose at the Congress, they could ignore subpoenas, even Republican subpoenas, and they would be protected by a Department of Justice leadership that would never go after them.
But if Steve Bannon thinks that's the case now, he's going to find out otherwise.
Oh, I bet Steve is quaking in his boots.
A man who served this nation just not in the White House, but in the U.S.
Navy.
Oh, by the way, I need to know this.
Eric, you there?
I've got your six as always.
Thank you, Eric.
I didn't realize that Shifty Schiff has got a book out.
Will you tell me by the end of the week, just get hold of the figure, I want to know how many copies the most mendacious man in D.C.
has sold.
Will you try and keep track of that for me?
I'll keep track of that, but if I made a prediction, I think it will sell about as much as the crowd at an average Joe Biden rally.
You mean five copies?
That's pushing it.
Okay, I need to know.
Just so unbelievable that this man thinks anybody is going to follow him or buy his book.
Let's have some good news today.
He is He made it.
He went to space.
He's not just playing a starship captain and an admiral.
He did it today.
God bless you, Bill Shatner!
Cut to... By the way, the simulation...
They have to be warned.
It's only a simulation.
Everything else is much more powerful.
It doesn't capture it.
And besides, what's the jeopardy?
Bang!
This thing hits.
You've got to run along.
That wasn't anything like a simulation.
The G-forces!
What's going to happen to me?
Am I going to be able to survive the G-forces?
Well, he survived.
That's after he landed this morning.
90-year-old Bill Shatner finally went to the final frontier.
Let's go to your calls.
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Congratulations, Admiral Shatner.
That's 833-334-6752.
Maria in California, line one.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay, very good.
Yes, I heard Jenna Ellis.
Excellent, excellent interview.
Here's the deal.
I'm following all these legal proceedings across the country.
They're splintered.
There are some real successes with the CRT, with the mandated vaccine.
But what we really need is a concerted effort.
Everybody coalesce together, all these lawyers and Thomas, what is it, the Thomas Paine Association.
Thomas Moore, Thomas Moore.
I'm sorry, Thomas Paine, Thomas Moore.
And everybody get together and have a mass Class action against these unconstitutional edicts that are coming our way.
Mark Levin did come up with something, mentioned something like that the other day.
But I think we need a major effort across this country.
I think that's absolutely sound advice.
Somebody has to pick up that baton, either at Thomas More, either at one of the organisations, the non-profits, that are helping individual cases.
There needs to be a massive class action suit, one for the private employers and one for those working for the federal government.
Stay on the line, Maria.
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Mic's on.
Hey Maria.
Yeah, alright.
What's your name?
What's your last name?
What's your last name?
Arnie.
Alright.
What did you give her by the way?
She chooses either shirt.
Either the My Body My Choice or the Trump shirt.
Gotcha.
I can't believe the title shifts book.
I know.
One of the endorsements on it.
The vital inside account of American democracy in its darkest hour.
From the rise of autocracy unleashed by Trump to the January 6th insurrection.
Oh my goodness.
Whose endorsement is that?
Timothy Snyder.
Who?
If there is still an American democracy 50 years from now, historians will be very grateful for this highly personal and deeply informed guide to one of its greatest crises.
But who is Timothy Schneider?
Number one New York Times bestselling author of On Tyranny.
Never heard of him.
So bad.
Never, ever heard of him.
Well, that just sounds like a... I'm glad he titled it where it sounds like garbage.
He's not trying to catfish anybody.
Hey, it's Geoff.
I just can't.
How are you?
And it's true what they say.
In person, his eyes really are as bug-eyed as they are on TV.
No, right?
Totally.
That's good.
Just remember the mics are live on Rumble.
Mics are live and we have Trish.
Alright.
I wonder what we should talk about today with Trish.
Gee, gee.
Let's talk about the weather.
You know, sometimes I feel like I'm... I mean, how long have I been talking about inflation with you?
Are you changing your name to Cassandra?
Oh my gosh.
I mean, it's really... But, you know, look what happened.
Yep.
And it's going to keep happening.
All right, let's talk about jobs.
Let's talk about supply chain.
Let's talk about inflation.
All in.
Yeah, so CPI came out today, and it was worse than economists anticipated.
5.4% increase again, so six straight months of like super high inflation now.
It's so bad.
The Biden administration is actually saying, okay, well, we're going to try and fix this port situation on the West Coast.
And they do have like FedEx and And these other carriers working 24 hours, right, to try and unload some of these ships.
Right.
But, Seb, it's not fixable at this point.
Standby, standby, standby.
Alright, standby, standby.
Standing by.
Bye.
Ten seconds.
Oh, there he is.
There's my guy.
Good job.
How's your new show going?
Good?
Very well, thank you.
I heard good.
Thank you, Mr. President.
By the way, I was listening to this show just a little bit as I was traveling back home and Kurt Schlichter was covering for me, was it Monday?
I have to say, This America First has the best bumper music in radio.
I was like, I was just bopping along and it was just great!
I wonder who chooses it?
Oh yeah, I do.
Let's talk about the disaster that has been the last nine months of the Biden regime.
She is changing her name by deed poll rapidly to Cassandra Reagan.
In the meantime, she is Trish Regan.
Welcome back to America First, host of the Trish Regan Show.
Go to trishintel.com, follow her on Twitter.
Trish, where do we start?
Do we start with 100 container ships off LA?
What, 4.3 million workers quit their jobs in August?
Or inflation?
Well, we can start on inflation since that's the last one you mentioned.
Yeah, this is – look, I've been talking about it now for about a year, my concerns about inflation.
And I've been saying, like, it's here, it's here, it's getting worse.
And, you know, look, I don't want to be proven right on this.
Believe me, Seb, I don't.
Because this is so bad for your average American family that's struggling to make ends meet.
Now prices are up with everything.
Energy prices are up 24%.
You've got diapers up 14%.
Food up so much.
This is hurting people.
This is really bad, but what we saw reflected in these numbers is that, once again, inflation is sky high.
It's been sky high for six straight months.
High, basically, since January.
And, look, I mean, there's no way around this.
We're right back in a 1970s-style economy again.
And I hate to say it, but it's bad policy.
Bad policy choices have consequences.
Shouldn't we always have a businessman as president?
I look at the last four years and it seems like a no-brainer.
I mean, when you have people who've been in politics for 47 years, never done anything except graft into their family members' pockets, isn't this inevitable that this is what happens under Biden?
Well, look, I mean, this is why you can go back to even the Ross Perot days, right?
Where people were saying, finally, somebody who actually knows how to add.
The problem we actually have in Washington, D.C., and Joe Biden's the perfect example of this right now, is too many people that are vested politically in particular policies that really aren't for the benefit of the American people, but for the benefit of themselves and their party.
And so party politics And I, you know, I'm sorry, but, you know, Mitch McConnell, they're all guilty, right?
Like, we've seen it.
And this is why it's refreshing when you have somebody who does come from a business perspective and says, wait a second, I just want the best thing for my country.
I'm going to run my country like I would run a company.
And we're going to be thoughtful.
And, you know, by the way, it's not rocket science.
I mean, for goodness sakes, they're sitting there saying, oh, the price of oil is going Maybe we need to release oil from the strategic reserve.
Well, guys, maybe if you didn't kill the pipeline, the Keystone pipeline, you wouldn't be dealing with sky-high oil right now.
I mean, would a CEO make that decision?
No.
We opened the show because it was breaking, we had the White House feed, but the idea, I mean, this is America, and we have a hundred container vessels off the port of L.A.
unable to disgorge their containers.
So what does the man who sadly bears the title of President do?
Trish, he stands at a podium and says, We're on it.
We're going to fix it.
Is that going to soothe anybody's expectations?
No.
And by the way, just so people understand what a big deal this is, pre-COVID, it would be a rare thing if you actually saw one container ship there off the coast waiting to unload.
I mean, the idea that you have now between 60 or 100 is you just said, wow, I mean, what's going to happen when Christmas comes?
I mean, everybody's going to be trying to do their Christmas shopping and yet the products can't get to the shelves.
It's not working.
I'm sorry.
It's just not working.
He needs to be fired.
I need you to put your Cassandra-like crystal ball on the table.
I need you to tell me, what is the likely scenario?
If this man stays in office or Kamala takes over, is this just literally going to be the Carter administration on steroids, national security disasters compounded by an absolutely economic malaise?
That's my fear.
I mean, I was speaking with someone recently who's looking at Venezuela again, and this source said to me, what's astounding is that nobody has any direction in the State Department.
And so he had gone to the State Department and said, OK, well, you know, this was the policy before.
What are we doing now?
It's like nobody cares.
So that, to me, is symptomatic of everything, whether it's the courts, Whether it's the border, for goodness sakes, it's like nobody cares.
They're running around in circles.
And I get the federal government is tough.
It's a hard job.
But, you know, somebody's got to manage this.
They have to have their policies and their preferences put forward.
And somebody's going to say, this is the plan.
This is what we're doing.
You don't just say, hey, let's get out of Afghanistan.
Who knows how the heck we're going to do it?
Right.
Who knows?
I mean, this is this is you see it happening all across the board right now, Seb.
And if this continues, God forbid, you have more and more of this.
And gosh, we've got another four years.
I mean, all bets are off.
I mean, buy gold, I guess.
You know, look, I mean, that's, to me, a really, really bad economic scenario that the U.S.
is going to have a harder and harder time recovering from.
And we need responsible people that understand the complexity of these issues.
We've got 30 seconds left with Trish Regan.
The multi-trillion dollar bill before Congress, your expectation, is it just going to be shaved down and then it's going to pass anyway?
Maybe.
Look, I think that Manchin has tried to make his viewpoint as has Sinema known, but they'll get something.
They'll get something.
And, you know, frankly, we can't afford anything, but maybe they'll get something.
I think it's still sort of hard to say.
I'm pessimistic on all of it because do we need it, Seb?
Really, do we need it?
No.
We need jobs.
We need people to get back to work and we need to stop the insane Covid mandates and the shutdowns.
Get Common Sense every single day.
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He raped in school and they let him rape again.
Yep.
They let him rape again.
Alright, hang on.
Jenna or Trish?
Jenna, stopping Biden's vaccine mandates.
I'm going to take four in the break.
Big lib upset.
Yeah, go ahead.
Mics are on.
Yeah, go ahead.
Who's this?
Stephen.
Hey, Stephen.
What's your comment?
What's your question?
I'd like to ask Sebastian Gorka why it is that people who are anti-abortion rights are too ugly to fuck in the first place.
That's a deep, deep... Did your mommy give you that dirty mouth?
No, but I fucked your mother right in the ass.
Ouch.
Wow, really?
Because she's dead.
That would make you a necrophiliac, you sick, sick man.
Goodbye, sad boy.
Wow.
Alright, 30 seconds.
Standing by.
How about he says to you when I speak to Sebastian Gorka?
He doesn't know he's talking.
What is that weird accent?
I don't know.
I couldn't tell you.
Stand by.
Coming in. Coming in.
Coming in. Dr. G is in the house on America First.
Why are liberals so sick?
I mean, really, demented.
I like to toy with them in the break in Jeff Connected 1, who talked about sexual perversions with my dead mother.
It's how sad they are.
And that is exactly why we will win.
Let's go to your course, Brent, in L.A., line one.
Hello, Great Gorka!
Hey, buddy!
Well, I wanted to bless you for your courage to expose the hateful, critical Marxist psy-ops movement that we need to accurately label as trans-terrorism.
Ooh!
Explain that!
Well, these malicious Marxists mask themselves as the protectors of sexually and tragically abused broken boys and girls Let's just stop there, because this is so important.
suicidal delusion that the kind but clueless are ignorantly calling transgenderism.
This is not a physical disorder.
It is a psychiatric and emotional disorder.
And that is why castration never diminishes suicide, but only encourages it.
Let's just stop there, because this is this is so important.
Wherever you stand politically, the sheer fact alone that more than 40 percent of those who trans quote unquote transition because you can't change your chromosomes.
Sorry, you can cut things off, but you're still a boy or you're still a girl.
football.
More than 40% of these people attempt suicide.
So this is a mental plague on the innocent and the vulnerable.
And those who push it politically are doing the devil's work.
It is to encourage Those who will end up almost half of them trying to kill themselves is absolutely the definition of evil.
Thank you, Brett, for your clarity.
That's what we need in America more than ever.
Tim, Florida, line two.
Dr. Gorka, question.
If federal courts are ruling against, excuse me, but I call him Lord Biden.
If federal courts are ruling against Lord Biden's federal vaccine mandate, I'm not hearing about that in the media.
Well, there's not a lot of that happening.
A court in Florida, a lot of the actions are state level and municipality.
One of the stories, the latest, is that the state of Florida has sued a county more than a million dollars for their illegal mandate.
So, you know, Tim, why are you surprised that the fake news media won't cover these stories?
Well, I know that they can control people by hiding the truth from them.
But last week at Ohio, a federal court ruled in a, I think it was a Western Michigan athlete case up there.
That they ruled that the university could not force the athletes to vaccinate because it was against their First Amendment constitutional right.
Good.
We're going to check that out.
But Tim, don't be surprised because that's against the narrative.
Don't you understand?
You've got to worship the altar of Fauci.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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What's the last one?
Can you hear me?
Alright, excellent.
Yes.
Mics are on, Jen.
They're already printed off.
They're in the rundown, I believe.
All right.
Oh, I do not have those.
No.
Print this last one.
Yeah, I can hear you.
Can you hear me?
All right.
Excellent.
Email it to me.
Excellent.
I said name, I mean, right?
Yes.
Mics are on, Jen.
Are you going to be reaching out to us on Skype?
20.
Yep.
Got about 20 seconds.
I'm not hearing that audio, by the way, John.
I wasn't hearing that.
What audio?
Oh, Commerce 2.
Okay, gotcha.
There you go.
All right, 20 seconds.
All right, 20 seconds.
All right, what'd you want to say?
All right.
It's a happy day, because finally, he's made it to the final frontier.
William Shatner.
The man with the staccato, but fun delivery, as Captain Kirk, later Admiral Kirk, and then Captain Kirk again, made it into space.
And just that little clip we played earlier today, how giddy he was, how excited he was when he got back, it just makes me feel warm inside.
But why am I also sad?
Because Mr. G still doesn't like science fiction.
We'll work on him.
We'll keep trying.
We're going to break Jeff sooner or later, although he is a tough nut to break.
In the meantime, let's talk to somebody who not only loves Star Trek, she knows Mr. Shatner, our West Coast warrior princess.
Jennifer Horne, are you there?
I am here, Seb.
Isn't it a fun day?
Wasn't it nice to take like four minutes away from politics for just a second and enjoy 90-year-old William Shatner going to space?
It was fantastic.
You know, we've said it before, I'm going to say it again.
I just couldn't believe it when you took me to that charity event.
He's a huge equestrian, along with his wife.
And this is a charity event for the equine therapy that he does for children.
And he just rode into the arena.
That was, what, three years ago?
This was three years ago, yeah.
And he rode into the arena.
And then he told me how old he was.
And I said, yeah, right, 87.
I know.
No, you're kidding me.
He rides every single day.
I'm not going to get on a horse.
I said right now, if I live to the ripe old age of 87, I ain't getting on a horse.
I know.
And he does it every day.
He is so active.
And you know what's great about him?
Watching him get off the Blue Origin and say hi.
I mean, he was teary.
He's like a big kid.
Totally.
And he said it was so extraordinary and you know the one thing that strikes me about William Shatner, my dad is friends with him and so I've become acquainted with him as well over the years and he is so curious.
He is legitimately curious about everything and that's why it was so, I think, incredible that at 90 he got to go to space for real.
And I got to thinking about this story and I thought I got to share this with you today because I know you appreciate Bill and I know you appreciate just the kind of person he is.
Look, he's America's greatest Canadian.
Absolutely.
He's America's greatest Canadian.
He's the only one we want to keep.
The rest of them go back.
But years ago, and I started telling this story on The Morning Answer because I was talking about this with Grant, my co-host, and we were just laughing a little bit.
This will put into perspective the kind of drive that this guy has.
So are you familiar with the radio guy named Mancow?
He's not on the radio right now.
He was on in Chicago.
Mancow's on radio, isn't he, Jeff?
Is he still on?
He's still on.
He's a bit crazy, but he's still on.
Another friend of mine, I haven't talked to him in a few years, but obviously I don't know if he's on the radio or not.
But he got William Shatner involved in the Celebrity Paintball Tournament.
Now, if you have said – That sounds like fun.
Okay, it was really cool.
We got to go.
Hang on, you went?
Yeah, oh yeah.
We were broadcasting the event live.
It was in Joliet, Illinois, which could be the world's hottest, swampiest place during the summer.
Joliet has a big prison.
Really?
It's known for their prison.
Super swampy and humid during the middle of summer.
And we were there, I think it was in July.
I mean, The mosquitoes were the size of chihuahuas.
It was insane.
And I mean, I had, I had jeans on and I had mosquitoes like crawling up my legs.
I mean, it was really, it was so nuts.
But William Shatner is much younger than Mancow.
Mancow, I think I looked it up, was born in 1966.
William Shatner, you can do the math, is, you know, born however long ago.
You mean he's much older than Mancow?
Much older than that.
You said younger.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
He acted younger.
But they get into this.
It's a celebrity team.
Each one's leading their own team of paintballers.
And they're in this cornfield.
I mean, literally in the middle of Schvitzville in Joliet, Illinois.
Oh, I know Schvitzville well.
I love Schvitzville.
And Mancow, everybody was looking for him at the lunch break.
No one could find Mancow.
Mancow left after the first 10 minutes because young, at the time, 45-year-old Mancow could not handle hanging out in the heat.
So William Shatner stays out there, Seb, for four hours with mosquitoes inside of his face mask.
They were crawling around on the inside of his face mask, but he would not leave.
And at the very end, and this is where you will love it, Someone on the other team had found Shatner, found him.
And so he puts his hands up and he starts to surrender.
Now, do you think Captain Kirk would ever really surrender?
Oh, no.
He pulled out that paintball machine gun from his underpants and he just totally destroyed them.
He had a paintball in his hand.
And he put his hands up and he walked towards the opposite, the opposing team, and he smashed the guy on the back.
And went on to victory.
Captain Cook!
This is a guy who is just, this is his youthful spirit.
It doesn't matter that Mancow's 40 years younger than he is.
He's going to go out there and outperform him every single time.
So how long ago was this paintball thing?
This had to have been at least 10 years ago.
Maybe even more than that.
So the guy's 80.
Yeah, he was definitely, definitely about it.
Okay, now stop here.
I love that story.
I love you telling these stories on this show.
But now I'm just, I can't concentrate on everything we need to discuss because I want us to organize our own celebrity paintball.
Can we do that?
I'm so in.
That would be so much fun.
Let's just not do it in the middle of summer.
Let's do it like in a nice crisp fall day.
I've done it once and it is so much fun.
Paintball is so much fun.
Oh my gosh, I'm in.
I don't know if we want to be on opposite teams, but let's take on somebody.
We could join forces.
I think we should.
I think we should have Jake Tapper and Don Lemon on the other team.
Oh, they're toast.
Can you even imagine?
They'd be crying by the end of the day.
Done.
Oh, that hurt!
Actually, paintballs.
It's a serious game.
It does hurt.
I know you can get bruised.
It's crazy.
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Every time I go on, she talks about the merch, she talks about the show.
God bless you.
Let's talk about what's happening.
It's Made in America Christmas this year, so I am promoting Seb Gorka merchandise because I'm not buying from China this year.
I won't do it.
Cut your mugs right now.
Megaman, Megagal.
Okay, let's talk about exactly that topic.
Again, I always ask you because I want you to be my sanity check for California.
I need a raise.
Okay, we'll negotiate that later.
Your guys can talk to my guys.
Is it a story in California that a hundred super cargo vessels are off the LAX port?
This might be a function of who's in the White House.
My dad was in Huntington Beach this weekend.
He was actually at our eye doctor's house, and he showed me a picture.
I'll have to send it to you.
We can tweet it out.
Of all of the cargo ships just lined up like it's the 405 freeway out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
I'll send it to you.
It's beautiful.
It's at sunset, but you can see the outline of all of them.
In one picture, there were nine just off the coast of this one house that he was at.
There are right now 60 cargo ships sitting off the coast of Los Angeles.
81 already trying to dock in the harbor of L.A.
and you have Joe Biden coming out today and he's saying, well, we're going to do 24-7 workdays.
Here is why Joe Biden is lying to you.
It doesn't matter if they work 24-7.
It doesn't matter if they work four hours.
They don't have enough workers.
This is the problem.
We have a worker shortage.
They are coming in to dock.
The boats are, and by the way, These 60 ships that are out there, about a million containers on these ships.
Imagine that.
And how does, I'm sorry, you know, we're not quite yet in, you know, Stalin's USSR or Mussolini's Italy.
How does a president get to decide how many hours you work in a dock in California?
He went to the dock, he went to the port of Los Angeles, he went to Walmart, and he got them to agree to do 24-7 shipping.
Okay, great.
But the problem is, is that you have no one to unload what's on the dock.
I mean, they've already pulled the containers off.
There's no physical room to put any more containers, which is why these ships are in a holding pattern.
Typically, it takes 40 days.
You're looking at 80 to 90 days to get these containers unloaded now.
But hang on, let me just do an impersonation of Biden.
Didn't he say this like six weeks ago about the PPE and all the money they're getting from the state?
You said, use it to leverage greater pay.
I'm going to talk creepily like Biden.
I mean, didn't he say that you're supposed to use the money you're getting from the state to leverage?
Well, I guess they're not doing it, Jen.
They are not doing it.
This guy has single handedly ruined this country and ruined our economy.
In 10 months.
Because he's incentivized people to stay home.
That's exactly what they're doing.
No one can find workers.
From restaurateurs to truck drivers, no one can find workers.
So he can go out there and dance around because he's getting insulted now that he's created the supply chain issue.
And he's trying to pretend like he's been working on it all along.
He has not.
He could have looked like a hero had he gone out there and figured out how to bring in workforce.
Or just say, you know, I'm mobilizing the National Guard.
I'm sending the U.S.
Corps.
That's my solution.
The Corps of Engineers.
Bring in the National Guard.
Get out there and do it.
It's an emergency.
It is an emergency.
She's our West Coast warrior princess giving us her updates every single week.
Follow her right now at Jennifer Horn.
and she'll be back with us here on the Final Frontier after these messages.
Final Frontier.
Final Frontier.
Nicely done, John.
Nicely done.
I don't know why you don't have a liner for that.
A liner for, like, boldly going where no one's gone before.
I know.
I think we should get Jan to record one.
I'll do it for you.
For a mug.
I'll send you another mug.
Can you show me that buffer, Eric?
Hang on.
It is.
Oh, and what's the piece I wanted?
Tesla.
Tesla.
That's all right, Tesla.
Tesla and leaf blowers.
This?
Yes!
Beautiful!
Excellent.
So I'm going to be really rude now, Jennifer Horne.
I can't wait.
Go ahead.
On live video, I am going to eat some chocolate cake.
Wait, it's not your birthday.
No, it is our... Let's visit the studio because we're great supporters of America First, biggest donors to one of our charity campaigns.
Eileen and her husband, Brown, not only did they come to the studio... Eileen, happy birthday!
No, no, no, it's just for us.
No birthday.
Oh, it's just for you guys.
And she brought a cake for the team, and it's rather delicious.
Well, that's so nice.
Delicious.
That is nice.
I was like, wait a second, I know it's October, but it's not your birthday yet.
Not yet.
It's coming.
Soon.
And my wife and my kids have organized a surprise birthday, and I have no idea what it is.
You don't know what you're doing?
No.
Are you going someplace?
I don't know.
I know nothing.
I know nothing.
Ooh, this is going to be fun.
I know.
She said to me yesterday, I said, hey, do you want us to tell you?
No!
I like surprises.
I want it to be a surprise.
Don't tell me.
You've got to tell her.
We haven't had her on the show in a while.
You've got to tell her.
Oh, you've got to get her on on CRT.
You've got to get her on.
I know.
That's what I was thinking about.
I mean, it's been such a huge topic.
I'll have to send her an email.
Do it.
It's been way too long.
Send me the photograph of the cargo busses.
Oh, I'll get it from my dad's phone.
I'll send it to you as soon as we get out of here.
Oh, Daniel.
Dan Dan the phone man, who is Jeff's biggest fan, said that Wayne Gretzky is also a Canadian we should keep.
Jeff is fans?
Yeah, Dan Dan the phone man.
Dan Down The Phone Man is a huge fan.
So when I was filling in for you on Friday, I was getting ready.
I'm like, I'm just going to hang out in the studio because I don't want to go anywhere.
So I'm like, I'm just going to hang out here until it's time to go.
I said, you guys need the space?
He's like, no, but hey, have fun today and tell Jeff that I really love his work.
And I went, what?
You mean like... Ratting out that Youngstown stuff?
And he said, that show sounds so well-produced.
I listen to it every single day.
I agree with him.
And it sounds so great.
He's like, I am just a huge fan of Jeff's work.
I'll tell you how to destroy Jeff's renommé with Dan Dan the Phone Man.
Uh-oh.
You gotta tell him.
My producer, who may be the best producer in radio, hates science fiction.
I know.
One minute.
See?
Jeff?
See?
No.
He doesn't watch any movie.
Get this.
He doesn't watch any movie made before he was born.
I know that.
We've learned that rule about him.
And he doesn't like used bookstores like me.
Yeah.
Used bookstores.
That's right.
You like used bookstores.
I love used bookstores!
Chad was a big used bookstore guy.
I'm gonna guess John.
John, John, used books?
I'm neutral.
I'm Switzerland.
There is no Switzerland.
Unused bookstores?
I don't frequent used bookstores.
I don't know where they are now.
Oh damn.
By the way, Jen, your camera's frozen.
I'll call it back real quick.
20 seconds.
We can unpack that a little bit later.
Okay.
Alright, stand by.
From the
ReliefFactor.com studios, This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
Yeah.
Use bookstores.
It's a metric of a decent person, whether they like them or not.
Am I wrong, Jennifer?
It's also if you like Scrappy-Doo in the Scooby-Doo series.
Don't go there.
Don't go there.
Are you pro-Scrappy-Dappy-Doo and pro-bookstore, then you're okay here.
Okay, good.
All right.
We'll leave that.
We don't want to create divisions here.
Don't want to create divisions here.
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Okay, California.
Let's talk about what is going on there outside of the port of L.A.
I'm trying to... I asked Eric, because Eric, you know, he's from California.
Yeah, he's my neighbor.
I know, I know.
And I want to ask you, what on God's green earth is the logic for Nancy Pelosi's nephew, gruesome-usem, to ban Gasoline-powered leaf blowers.
It's like an SNL skit when SNL was funny.
Who is going to say, you know what?
I didn't like Gruesome, but now I'm going to vote for him because of the leaf blowers.
What is this, Jen?
I know.
That was my hot button issues.
Leaf blowers.
That was my whole vote was determined on.
And thankfully, we've gotten to the bottom of it.
First of all, just to give you some context, in 2021, Any guess, I'm putting you on the spot here, of how many bills Gavin Newsom has signed into law.
2021?
Uh-huh.
A ridiculous number.
700 new bills signed into law in California.
Now let me just remind you, and when we had our conversation here on the Morning Answer on my program on Tuesdays, I said to you, you know, when you have the luxury of solving the problems like the homeless crisis and crime and the economy and gas prices, and you've solved everything and there's nothing left to do, then you do what Gavin Newsom has done, which is a full agenda going into eliminating ketchup packets,
Eliminating gas-powered leaf blowers, adding ethnic studies, aka critical race theory, to the curriculum of schools, and making sure that we get rid of those pesky girl and boy toy sections at toy stores, which there aren't that many left in California to begin with because of his junk economy, and put in gender neutral sections.
So here's, you know, it seems kind of funny and frivolous to laugh, okay, gas-powered leaf blowers.
Who really cares?
Well, I know a lot of people do, but think about the people that you're hurting with that, because if you check online, farmers who might use like seeded mowers or yard equipment, which is part of this ruling, and people who come here and do gardening, landscaping businesses, If you go online and look how much more expensive the electric ones are based against these gas-powered ones, it's 50% more to buy electric-powered.
So you are now penalizing agriculture workers, anyone who's in the landscaping business, because you're going to force them into buying things that are just more expensive than they need to be to do the same job.
Actually, probably not as good a job, quite frankly, because these electric-powered are just not quite as good and as powerful as the gas-powered.
And so you're hurting a group of people that are already struggling to stay afloat in California.
The farmers are on their way out.
They can't get water to water crops in Central California.
This is so ridiculous.
And it helps nothing.
All it does is just pat the head of a minority of environmentalists who say that everything gas-powered is bad.
But this is the issue.
Is this a distraction from the crime, from the drought?
Is this like, look over here, don't look at my disastrous California?
Or is it that he's such a hostage to his own ideology, he just says, well yeah, this is really important and we're going to save the planet with electric leaf blowers.
Truly, I believe that's what it is.
I think he is drunk with power right now.
And so everything that he wants to do, he's just going to do.
And he's not really solving the big problems.
Look, nobody except for conservative media is really even talking about the leaf blowers.
It wasn't like a big, oh yeah, high-fiving people in the streets because we banned a leaf blower powered by gas.
It's that I think he has his own makeshift ideology.
I think he's very empowered.
He thinks he can do whatever he wants.
I actually believe now that he signed the recall, he thinks his presidential hopes are alive again.
He's back talking with Kamala Harris.
Biden clearly isn't going to finish things out.
Is Kamala going to go back now to their original deal, which would be that she would bring him into the White House if she becomes president?
Lord preserve us.
Help us.
Lord preserve us.
We're talking to the host of The Morning Answer, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, syndicated on DJV show as well.
And she is the utility player at crntalk.com.
Follow her at Jennifer Horne.
And let's have a little bit of fun.
It seems that we now know, Jennifer, why that amazing individual, incredible entrepreneur, decided to leave California for Texas.
What's the real reason?
Elon Musk said, bye-bye!
So there is an assemblywoman named Lorena Gonzalez here in California and she's actually based in San Diego County.
She is the person who created AB5 and the idea of getting rid of independent contractors in the workplace.
She's awful.
Nothing good has come out of the office of Lorena Gonzalez.
So during the pandemic, when everything was shut down and they were putting all of these crazy mandates on people, she started tweeting at Elon Musk, who was upset by the fact that California was locked down.
He couldn't get any work done, couldn't get his people back to work, basically to go blank himself.
And so Elon Musk is rich enough to remember that.
Filed it in his file.
And now he has made it official.
He is completely out of California, moved all of his facilities out of here to Texas.
And when he was asked why, instead of just saying, well, it's a better climate, it's better for, you know, better economically for us, he said, because of the tweet, he referenced the tweet that she sent.
So now she has to deal and answer to her constituents why She would send Tesla out of California, Elon Musk out of California to Texas, all because she just had to spew the F word in his direction.
You know, that's kind of Trumpian.
That's kind of Trumpian.
Is it great?
I'll share a story with you.
No names, but there was a religious leader, I'll just put it at that, who, you know, years ago on some spurious issue,
trashed the real estate mogul who goes by the name of Donald Trump and then for I think it was like maybe five years later this individual desperately needed assistance from the same Mr. Trump and managed to get a request to meet him in Trump Tower and my old boss gave him an appointment.
He sat down at the desk in Trump Tower Asked for the favour, at which point my old boss reached down, opened a drawer and pulled out, oh, you mean from the person who wrote this ob-ed about me five years ago?
Yeah.
It's Trumpian.
It's Elon Musk.
God bless.
That's the way you do it.
Never forget.
Never forgive.
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So what's your beef with Scrappy do?
Nothing!
What is this?
Nothing!
I like Scrappy-Doo!
No, he loves Scrappy-Doo.
I like Scrappy-Doo, but there are certain people who don't!
Right, Jennifer?
Yeah.
I mean, it's not that I don't like him.
He was adorable.
It's just I think I went downhill when he got there.
Interesting.
Jeff!
Come on!
We're not listening to you, Jeff.
He said he didn't watch cartoons as a kid.
The Mystery Machine is a big hippie bus, it looks like.
That's the point!
It is a hippie bus!
That's the point!
I don't like the 60s.
I couldn't... Thank God it wasn't like that.
You weren't even alive in the 60s.
What do you mean you don't like the 60s?
See, the only thing that Jeff knows is that the Micro Machine Man.
I mentioned him to you guys, you didn't know him.
I love the Micro Machine Man.
What is the Micro Machine Man?
He did these commercials for kids and he spoke like two or three hundred words.
He was actually Ben Shapiro.
He was Ben Shapiro.
Micro Machine Man, what is this?
He did Michael Jackson bad.
- He did Pizza Hut?
- Micro machine man, what is this? - He did Michael Jackson bad.
- He looks like a Mario brother. - I brought him up to you guys and you guys didn't know him and then Jeff wrote to me and said, "Literally, it's people our age." Like, you have to be born within six years of us.
He did the first Daily Wire podcast.
I worked with him back in 2016.
This is a guy who says he didn't watch cartoons as a child.
I worry about Jeff.
I worry about Jeff.
What did your parents do?
I was trying to think the other day which one I did watch, but I can't remember.
You said you liked He-Man, right?
A constant stream of Eeyore.
DuckTales was my thing.
DuckTales!
Can you sing the theme song, Jeff?
Jeff?
Come on.
Come on.
Live.
Come on.
Hold on.
I can't remember him swimming through the gold coins.
I know that part.
Or rewrite history!
That's how I see people who are rich, just singing and swimming.
That was a good one.
Oh dear.
We've got our work cut out, Jennifer.
We've got our work cut out.
I know, I know.
All right, you guys.
God bless.
Thank you for hosting.
Hey, are we online?
Are we talking to people?
We are.
Right now?
We are.
Okay, then remind me something funny.
I'll send you a text about the ships.
I'll send you the pictures.
And thank you for hosting again, my dear.
It was fun.
We had a good time, didn't we, guys?
Yes, good time.
Excellent.
Looks like they had a lot of fun.
Okay, bye!
Bye, thank you, bud.
Oh, my goodness.
Ah, that's funny.
He doesn't look very happy up there, does he?
I assume it's a bit jarring at 90 years old to be, uh... floating about.
Yeah.
It's not an experience.
Oh, my goodness.
Micromachines.
Micromachine Man.
Micromachine Man.
All right, we got Patreon Mobile here.
I didn't know that was what he was called.
Yeah.
I've seen him there.
Yeah, that's newest to me.
Talk so fast.
I didn't realize how big this cake is.
Oh my goodness.
I haven't seen it.
It's tall!
Eat!
I will, I will, I will.
I'm gonna have to get a piece.
Who's the parent called Harry?
I'm sorry?
Some parent called Harry was on WMA right now.
And he used the P word.
Oh no.
Where'd you see that?
Twitter?
Stacy just sent it to me.
Alright, 30 seconds.
Yep, standing by.
That's not good.
Okay.
Come on in.
Stand by.
Hi, this is President Trump, and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
He's a great guy.
He's been with me from the beginning.
Listen to him.
We all learn.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Who else is a friend of mine?
I made two new friends today.
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Thank you so much for making the effort.
We had a lovely lunch together.
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Thank you for your generosity and your support.
And all of you listeners, it's the most important part of the show, talking to and meeting you.
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Can't wait to meet the amazing people that make our show possible.
In the meantime, let's talk about some people who aren't so amazing.
Ben and Jerry, the commies.
It's funny how rich they are.
Rich commies.
I wonder how that works.
And I'm surprised at Axios, because they're not really journalists at Axios, with one exception.
But they did an interview with Ben and Jerry, asking them about their socialist politics, why they refuse to sell ice cream in the Palestinian territories, because yes, that's such a brave thing to do.
And then they asked them about why they don't do it here in America.
Cut seven!
We hugely support Israel's right to exist, but we are against a particular policy.
You guys are big proponents of voting rights.
Why do you still sell ice cream in Georgia?
Texas, abortion bans.
Why are you still selling there?
I don't know.
I mean, it's an interesting question.
I don't know what I don't know.
accomplish, we're working on those issues of voting rights and...
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
You know, I mean, I think you ask a really good question, and I think I'd have to sit down and think about it for a bit.
I don't know what that would accomplish, 'cause I love money, and I want to be rich, and I want to be a liberal at the same time. - I'm...
Congratulations.
That reporter looked like she was 12.
Maybe that's why that slipped under the anxious radar there.
Well done Ben and Jerry.
Skewed.
Hoisted on their own petard.
Let's go to your calls.
Waiting very patiently in Philadelphia.
Tom, line one.
Hello Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
Long time listener.
Second time caller.
I heard you talk about the maritime traffic jam.
Yes.
And then I also heard Jenna briefly make a comment about a Buy in America Christmas.
I just want to say this is an opportunity for everybody to rethink all of their buying.
You know, it's obviously buying American products, that's top of the list.
Buying from our friends, that's further down the list.
And boycotting the Communist Chinese to the extent possible.
I know it's not A hundred percent possible, but attempting to minimize it, and I think that would be a good move for all of us in the entire grand scheme.
Have you done it with yourself and your family, Tom?
Absolutely.
Drives my wife and my kids nuts.
We're at their store, or they're looking through a catalog, and they're saying, gee, this is nice.
I say, where's it made?
But now they've adopted it as their own strategy.
I haven't bought a pair of shoes not made in the United States for 10 years.
But that's hard!
Shoes made in America, that's hard.
You know what though?
It takes a little time on the internet, but I guarantee you, blue jeans, you can find it.
You just have to... Toys for Christmas!
There are toy companies making toys in the United States.
Both commercially manufactured plastics and so forth, but also Yeah, look.
Tom, welcome back to America First.
God bless you for doing what you do.
It's a very simple question.
said this is a buy american christmas and hopefully we go beyond christmas and keep doing it tom welcome back to america first god bless you for doing what you do it's a very simple question why should why should we with our money support the biggest communist regime in the world which has labor camps that are being used by nike It's just a moral question.
You've done it.
You've proven it.
And let's do a Buy American.
I want you to stay on the line, Tom, because everything we sell at our store is made in America.
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It is toasty.
It's really nice.
It's toasty.
It's soft.
I literally enjoyed it.
I was eating dinner and then I realized, I don't want to get anything on this.
I want to be able to use it.
But the liner in the head is fantastic.
Yeah, I love that.
I really do like that.
It's tremendous.
Titles.
Horn and or Andy.
I'm sending you the photograph from Jennifer of The Ships.
Oh boy.
See if you can push it up there.
Oh, put it on the screen?
I feel like there's got to be more interesting, like, fun themed liners, too.
Like, I was thinking... Well, think of it!
I'm thinking, yeah, definitely a Star Trek one.
You gotta have that.
Yes!
Yes!
And a Star Wars one!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. yeah.
Yeah, yeah. yeah.
Yeah, yeah. yeah.
Yeah, yeah. yeah.
With the deepest voice in talk radio, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
And she texted me in the break.
Here's the photograph Jennifer Horn's father took at the weekend.
Beautiful sunset with something in the way.
Oh yeah, super cargo ships that can't dock because Biden.
That's why.
Thank you, Jennifer, for sending us.
I mean, we do journalism here.
We don't just do talk radio.
We do journalism as well.
This is the Salem Radio Network.
I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Trump, member of the National Security Education Board, and delighted and honored to welcome back to the show.
All it has to say in her bio on Twitter is proud American mother and wife.
She's a rock star.
She's Chantel Cooper.
Chantel, welcome back.
Thank you for having me.
So, you have been fighting the good fight in the Commonwealth of Virginia at the school board meetings on behalf of your children, on behalf of fellow patriots.
You were at the meeting yesterday at Loudoun County.
Tell us, sir, what transpired?
Well, a lot of amazing parents came out and spoke up and stood their ground to the school board, Loudoun County School Board.
We parents are just asking for is we want a safe environment for our children.
Um, our hearts right now goes out to the Smith family.
We stand by them.
We will pray for them.
And at this time now, it's just time for everyone to stand up.
It doesn't matter what color religion you are.
Love and freedom for all and safety for our Children is number one.
Yeah, we had Scott Smith on the show today.
He shared with us the tragic story of what happened to his daughter raped in a restroom by a male student who was dressed as a girl.
A rape that was covered up by the school board so that that individual could be transferred to another school where he raped again.
It is the key issue.
Are our children, especially, are our girls safe?
Tell us about how the meeting went down.
What was the attitude of the school board?
Did you, as parents, get to say what you needed to say?
Yes, all the parents got to say what they needed to say.
Of course, we don't get, you know, a pleasant reaction back from the Ronald County School Board members.
We're not going to end this fight.
Like, we know right now that they are going to start coming after the teachers and student athletes by pushing this vaccine mandate next.
So right now we're working with another organization, Citizen for Freedom.
And this is why I encourage each and every one to get involved in the community.
As a mother, I got involved with many organizations that I felt would protect and educate my family.
And my reason for doing this is because the movement These movements and organizations are helping one another with momentum and presence.
Right.
So what's the plan right now?
You sent me a URL that we're going to put up.
It is a URL called Citizens for Freedom Legal Fund.
What is the purpose here?
What are your plans?
Can we replace the board?
What is the plan of the parents who are so very, very concerned?
We're still collecting signatures.
That's still happening.
So that is the other organization.
Um, if we can ask for everyone's prayers, and if anyone is able to please donate for our brave teacher administration, parents and students standing up for medical privacy and freedom, the plan right now is to file a lawsuit for a lot of public school teachers, staff and students that are being mandated to get vaccinated or tested.
We need everyone's help the benefit of our.
Attorney's research from our filings in court will benefit everyone, everywhere, which is why we need to seek donations from all sources, regardless of county.
If Loudoun mandate falls, it will help those in Fairfax, too.
So if we got an injunction in Loudoun, it will help those fighting in other counties.
So there is a meeting tomorrow, Thursday evening, at the Patriots Club in Hamilton, Virginia, at 6 p.m.
with Citizens for Freedom.
Any questions?
You're interested?
You want to join to figure out how to help your county?
Please attend.
Okay.
Hang on.
6 p.m.
this Thursday.
Hamilton, Virginia.
What's the building?
What's the place?
Let me see.
I have it right here.
I have the full address.
I'm sorry.
In the meantime, the page to support these parents, it's at the GiveSendGo Christian crowdfunding site.
So look for GiveSendGo.com slash Citizens for Freedom Legal Fund.
That's GiveSendGo.com slash Citizens for Freedom Legal Fund.
Where are you meeting, Chantal?
Alright, so the address to The Patriots Pub is... That's okay, that's fine.
Patriots Pub, Hamilton, Virginia, 6pm this Thursday.
And let me ask, in the last few minutes we have with you as Chantal Cooper, we've got to have everyone follow you right now as well.
What is the attitude, what was the reaction from your fellow parents last week when the second highest law enforcement officer in the land, the Attorney General, sent a letter out labeling parents as potential domestic terrorists.
Did that make some of the parents say, OK, enough is enough.
I'm not going to stand up anymore.
No, actually, we're not going to stop.
This actually had us come together even stronger.
So last night, the energy with You know, even though we have to sit outside and listen to the school board meeting through a speaker that the Citizens for Freedom bought, it didn't change anything.
We're still going to continue to stand outside and speak.
It did.
I can say it probably a lot of parents could question about, like, what is going on, but we had confirmation that, you know, right now it's really just kind of, I'm going to say, fake news to scare us.
So don't anyone get scared, because right now this is the time for you to stand up.
Do not back down.
That is the best interpretation.
It's very simple.
The letter, the statements by the DOJ, by the White House, they have one purpose and one purpose alone.
It is simply to intimidate.
You heard what Terry McAuliffe, the man... Sorry?
It's a scare tactic.
Yeah, it's a scare tactic.
You heard what the man who wants to be governor of Virginia again, Terry McAuliffe, said last week in the debate with Glenn Youngkin.
Parents, parents should not be in control of the education of their children.
It should be the school boards and the bureaucrats.
That's what we are fighting, and that's what Chantel Cooper represents.
Follow her, get all the information you need at Chantel Cooper on Twitter.
That's S-H-A-U-N-T-E-L.
Chantel Cooper.
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God bless you, Chantel.
Keep doing what you do.
And we need regular updates from you and all the other patriots that are fighting to take our schools back and protect our children.
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Cut three?
Mm-hmm.
Basic fundamental question.
Are we going to have a democracy or not?
And what I'm saying is that if Republicans can win elections in 2022, that is going to set the stage for a Republican coup in 2024 that could well be more successful than the one they attempted in 2020.
And really the only way To prevent that from happening is to vote for Democrats at all levels and state legislatures, governors, House and Senate.
That's the only way to safeguard our democracy.
And I'm saying that to somebody who is not a Democrat.
Journalism in his little finger than CNN has on its entire network.
Sebastian Gorka.
Thank you, Deep Voice Dave.
We triggered so many libs yesterday with my monologue opening the show about destroying a Superman by going gay.
Yeah, I said homosexual.
Who cares if he's bi?
It's all garbage.
You know he's a fictional character, by the way, and that you've just destroyed one of the most successful brands in American history.
Let's continue to trigger them with the man who actually was Superman, my buddy Dean Cain.
Cut four.
You said it's bold and bold new direction.
I say they're bandwagoning.
You know, a Robin of Batman and Robin, as you mentioned, just came out as bi or gay recently.
And honestly, who's really shocked about that one?
I had some thoughts about that a long time ago.
But a new Captain America is gay.
My daughter in Supergirl, where I played the father, she was gay.
So I don't think it's bold or brave or some crazy new direction.
If they had done this 20 years ago, perhaps that would have been bold and brave.
The brave would be having him, you know, fighting for the rights of gay people in Iran, or they'll throw you off a building for the offense of being gay.
They're talking about him fighting, you know, real-world problems like climate change, the deportation of refugees, and he'll be dating a hacktivist, whatever a hacktivist is.
I don't know.
But, you know, why don't they have him fight the injustices that created the refugees whose deportation he's protesting?
That would be brave.
I'd read that.
So true.
When the overarching culture, or the masters, the gatekeepers, are pro-trans gay blah blah blah, giving in to that isn't brave.
You know what would be brave, DC Comics?
Oh, I don't know.
Having Superman fight to liberate the slave labor workers in the Chinese camps that are making the Nike shoes.
But you'll never do that, because you are gutless.
Let's go to David in Arizona, line two.
Hi, Dr. Gorka.
Hey.
How you doing?
Good.
Sounding good.
Yeah, I just wanted to run something by you real quickly.
I lived in California for about four years.
They kind of run us out with the high taxes and political madness.
So we moved to Arizona as grandparents to look after our twin grandkids.
That said, though, one of the things that has not been addressed is the actual issue of the supply chain Exactly.
uh la harbor i had a friend years ago we've got 30 seconds well give us the meat of the the argument david exactly um he was a longshoreman uh had the big crane lifted up and put it on the on the deck the problem is is they don't realize that the actual problem is the longshoreman union they will only use sponsorees that they sponsor i I was going to get sponsored, but my friend's son got sponsored.
That said, one of the problems Is that a lot of things are getting loaded because it has to be union dock workers.
Of course, David.
Why am I not surprised that once again, whether it's the schools, whether it's the dock workers, whether it's the crane operators, it all begins with the union.
Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means, but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have.
The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.
Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?
Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?
Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?
Perhaps one of the most important speeches of the modern presidential age, that was the 45th President of the United States speaking in Warsaw, next to the monument for the Warsaw Uprising, July 6, 2017.
I am honoured to have been involved in the framing of that speech when I worked in the White House.
The question that the President asked is, do we have the will To stand up and protect the values of Western civilization against those who would subvert and destroy it.
That will be the question for today's one-on-one with a very special guest.
It's been far too long since he's been on the show.
He's been traveling across the nation because his latest work, all of his works are worth your time, but his latest work has just been released.
It's already reached number two in the bestsellers, The Dying Citizen by Victor Davis Hanson.
How progressive elites, tribalism and globalization are destroying the idea of America.
Professor, welcome back to One on One here on America First.
Thank you for having me, Sebastian.
So I'm working a little bit backwards.
I wanted to frame our discussion with that question, which I think is the question of the age and has been the question since Western civilization.
We've arrived at its apotheosis, blending Greek-Roman concepts of the polis and the rule of law.
But before we dive into that and discuss your book that everybody must order right now.
Will you introduce for those who may have just happened onto this podcast, may have been sent this video link by a friend and who aren't familiar with your background, because you are recognized as one of the greatest strategic minds today in the United States.
You are at Hoover, you are at Stanford, but You have a fascinating backstory, where you have taught in the past, what your family has done.
Will you talk to us a little about the Hanson family and why you dedicated your book, The Second World Wars, to who you dedicated them to?
Yeah, I'm speaking here from a house that I grew up in.
It was my grandmother's house, my parents then.
And it was built by my great-great grandmother in 1870 on this small farm in the Central Valley of California.
And I was very rare because my grandparents never went to college, but they had three daughters and they mortgaged their farm in the 40s and they sent them to Stanford University.
And so I grew up in kind of a hybrid environment where my mother was a judge and my aunt was a professor, but they were all farmers.
As well and so we had to work on the farm and then when I got back from graduate school at 25, 26 for the PhD, I had to take my turn and I loved it.
I farmed full-time here where I am now.
What kind of farm did your family establish?
Well, they had grapes for raisins and plums and peaches and then at one time we had apricots and nectarines and truck farming, fresh tomatoes for farmers markets and then During the fallout of the 80s and 90s, my siblings moved away, and so I'm the only one that has 40 acres left of the original 180 acres.
But it's been good for me to live in a very impoverished area because of illegal immigration, but I have a lot of great friends that are second, third generation Mexican-American families that live next to me.
And so it's a very different experience than what I encounter at Stanford University, where I went to school and where I work now.
And I'm much more, I guess, what's the word, comfortable where I am here than on the coast.
And talk to us about your academic career, because you weren't always teaching at Stanford.
You've had a very eclectic grounding.
So talk to us a little bit about that progression.
Well, very quickly, I was trained as a classical philologist.
That's a fancy word for Greek and Latin scholarship, language, literature, history.
And I specialized in, it was hard to do, but I specialized in military history, which meant that I had to take the regular Greek and Latin philology manuscript classes.
And then I did ancient military history on the side.
And then out of that, I grew an interest in military history in general.
But when I came back, My grandfather had died, so my parents were working, so I ran this farm for five years and did nothing else.
And then finally at the age of 29, I went back to academia.
I'd never been to the Fresno State campus, maybe one time, but it was 30 miles away.
I walked in the door with sort of dirty clothes and I said, could I teach Latin?
And they kind of laughed me out.
But eventually they gave me one Latin class and then Five years later, we had a department or program of five professors, and we tried to train mostly poor people.
That was the student body profile.
Southeast Asians, Mexican-Americans, Oklahoma diaspora, in classical languages, French and German, literature, to make them competitive with the so-called better schools.
And we did that, and we sent about 50, not that that's The only barometer of success, but we sent about 50 students to the Ivy League in law and academia and medicine.
So it continues today.
And then at 50, I kind of got burned out of teaching eight courses a semester and sometimes, I mean a year, five a semester, finally 10.
And so I retired and went to the Hoover Institution and I commute up there once a week.
And you have a whole library of books you have published.
One of my favorites is Who Killed Homer?
Also, The Case for Trump, but ancient works on the strategy of ancient Greece.
The new book is The Dying Citizen.
Let me start with a very Maybe a simpletons question.
Professor Hansen, can a nation long survive if its elite hates what the nation stands for?
Is that too obvious a question for 2021?
No, you know it can't, and we all know it can't.
It's even more troubling.
It cannot exist unless what the Greeks called the mesoi, or the middle people, do not exist in numbers.
And by that I mean, you have to have a check on the power and the inside leverage of the wealthy, and you cannot be dependent on the government as the poor.
But the middle class, that's what Tocqueville said, that's what the Federalist Papers said, that's going back to Aristotle.
You have to have an independent, economically viable middle class.
And that can be an independent truck driver, a small business person, a teacher.
But they have to have property, they have to be engaged politically, and they have to be immune from the enticements and the threats of government and the wealthy.
And is it hyperbole?
Is it exaggeration for me to describe the elite thusly?
Or have we ever been in a state where on both sides of the aisle we have such a number who say America is the problem, Professor?
I think that's a good point.
I grew up in the 70s.
came of age.
And what I remember about the tail end of the 60s revolution is we heard that rhetoric, especially the any means necessary or the ends that are so noble justify any means required or available.
But the difference, Seb, was when you saw marches, they marched on the Pentagon.
They marched into the president's office.
They marched to the local DA's office.
But now, or they marched against the corporate boardroom, or they occupied Wall Street later.
But what's happening now, they are in the Pentagon.
They are the president.
They are the prosecuting attorney.
They are the judicial class.
So this revolution insidiously, incrementally, the last 30 years has abhorred our institutions.
And although they lack the majority support, as we see for the polls, that Biden's, all of his issues, all of his socialist agenda does not poll 50%.
But they don't care because they feel that Facebook and NPR and PBS and LeBron and Oprah and the Obamas and, you know, the Wall Street grandee and the CEO of American Airlines or Coca-Cola, They have such a 360-degree encirclement or 24-7 constant refrain that they don't need the popular support.
And then when the popular support raises up, the dragon has been poked.
Suddenly they say, well, we're going to let in 2 million people in this physical year across the non-existent border.
Or we're going to get rid of the 180-year filibuster or the 150-year nine-person Supreme Court or the 60-year, 50-year state union of 50 states.
Or we can get rid of the 233-year filibuster.
Electoral College or the state's prerogatives in national elections is set valid.
So they want to change the rules or change the demography because they don't have confidence that even these institutions that they've absorbed will give them permanent power because they're afraid of the people.
I think they're terrified of the next midterm that's looming in about a year.
We will discuss the last election as well as the future election.
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Professor, the book is titled The Dying Citizen.
Let's spend a few minutes on the importance of this concept because in an age where civics seems to be dead, where you're far more likely as a teenager to be taught that America is the problem, Not that citizenship is essential for the healthy functioning of any nation, especially a republic.
Will you give us the cliff notes on citizenship and why it is the bedrock of Western civilization?
Yeah, I try to point out that we think, we take it for granted, Seb, but in the 7,000 year history of civilization, it came very late.
2,500 years ago in Greece and then later in Rome and then through Europe.
With starts and halts and ends and a checkered history.
And now we have it.
Because the natural condition of man apparently was to be a serf or a slave or a subject.
But a citizen, that asks a lot of a person.
They have to elect their own officials.
They have to keep them accountable.
They have to make their own budgets and expenditures.
They choose when to fight and when not.
And so it requires a lot of responsibilities in exchange for these unique rights.
And it's fragile.
There's 190 nations in the world today and I think you could be charitable to say 90 of them are constitutional societies.
Most are not.
And they were not in history.
And this country is the longest surviving constitutional republic.
Of the republics or democracies that survive today and in the book I try to suggest that historically if you look at these systems You have to have a middle class and we're losing it.
We know that now with this Erosion and wages again that had been arrested the last four years.
It's it's imperiled more than ever You have to have borders and a sovereign safe space to inculcate common traditions language and customs you have to Have a ideal that unites a multiracial society.
Otherwise you're pre-civilizational tribalist, where you just judge people on the basis of their superficial appearance.
And yet we're regressing back to a pre-civilizational state.
And then in the second part of the book, very quickly, I say, unfortunately, it's not just these organic bottom-up pressures on citizenship, but it's this contrived top-down where we have this administrative unaccountable state of the James Comeys, the Jim Clappers, the General Millys, the Anthony but it's this contrived top-down where we have this administrative unaccountable state of the James Comeys, the Jim Clappers, the General Millys, the Anthony Fauci's that exercise enormous power without the ability of the citizen to say, you didn't tell the
You cannot interrupt the chain of command.
Or Dr. Fauci, admit it, you channeled funding into the virology lab at Wuhan.
We're holding you accountable.
We're not able to do that.
And then we have these evolutionaries, as I said, that believe the human nature changes, and therefore a malleable constitution has to be changed.
I mentioned what they want to do with the Electoral College and the nine-portion Supreme Court, but Seb, they're talking about Two senators are not fair because they don't understand the whole principle of a nation, a federalist system of 50 individual states, and they want to make senators proportionally representative.
And they want more House members, 2,000, 3,000.
So they want a radical democracy that can do anything they want on any given day based on what 51% of the people feel at that moment.
And then finally, We bifurcated SEB into a bi-coastal elite.
Seattle to San Diego, Miami to Boston that has windows on this EU and these Asian dynamic economies.
And if you had skills such as finance or media or academia or insurance or investment, you had a 7 billion person market and you were cosmopolitan.
Good Greek word.
But if you were in the interior, Or even 50 miles and you were muscular or farming or manufacturing, then you were written off as losers.
Red state America.
And we're not citizens of the world.
Why would we entrust this unique sovereignty, this exceptional nation to countries that are made up of alliances or world bodies of governance that are made up of illiberal states?
Why do you think that Secretary of State Blinken asked the UN to adjudicate whether we, we are racist or not, with members like China on in that body that have a million and a half people locked up more or less in these Uyghur labor camps.
So very skeptical that global economics should translate into global governance.
I have just been scribbling down a long list of questions I have to ask you just based upon the last response you gave.
Let me go to the first one.
Given what you mentioned about Milley interposing himself illegally into the chain of command, giving China a heads up, Comey entrapping the National Security Advisor, Clapper lying about the surveillance of US citizens, the abuse of the FISA court, the FBI forging a CIA document to illegally spy on Carter Page.
Do you have any qualms, given all of these, which is a short list of the last five years, do you have any qualms in using the phrase deep state, that it actually exists?
No, I think it's either, I've heard all of these synonyms, they're all fine with me.
They're permanent state, de facto government, administrative state.
It's sort of like what we saw in French history at the 5,000 people who camped out at Versailles, no matter who was king or what, no matter what the revolution or the escarole and outside Madrid during the Spanish empire or the Kremlin, let's be face, face it.
And it went right from the czar right into the Bolsheviks.
So we've got a permanent class of unelected people who started out as public servants.
It was a noble idea, but they got so numerous, so well compensated, so pension and so autonomous that they're like an amoeba, an organic growth that no one can can handle.
So I mean that literally because carry on.
Well, I mean, Think of Anthony Fauci.
He's a nice enough person, but he has told us basically he believes in the platonic noble lie that I had to lie about you.
to you about masks.
I lied to you about herd immunity, because if I didn't lie, you might, as stupid people, buy too many masks and shorten the supply, or you might not get vaccinated.
Oh, by the way, I didn't really give, I sort of maybe could have given some money through maybe, maybe Echo Health Alliance, and maybe it went to the Wuhan Virology Lab, and maybe it's controlled by the Chinese military, and maybe that virus may, may not be engineered, but I have nothing to do, and I have nothing to say to you.
Or, I don't really think that I have to tell you that naturally acquired immunity is, is not, maybe could be significantly comparable or superior to vaccinating.
And so it's gibberish, and then he's mad that people don't listen to him.
And he's lost the public confidence.
And the FBI, Comey is mad at us.
245 times under oath he said, I didn't know, or I couldn't remember.
The FBI director, the head of all of our investigatory authority at the FBI, can't remember.
Robert Mueller said, remember Robert Mueller, the two pillars of his investigation, the Steele dossier and Fusing GPS, asked specifically to describe the role in his investigation.
I don't know anything about that.
That's what he said.
I have so much more to ask, but I really see this as a service to our millions of listeners and all of our viewers.
These are just some of the books in my library that I recommend to you from Professor Hanson.
Why the West Has Won.
The Western way of war.
The father of us all, war and history.
A war like no other.
Who killed Homer?
A fabulous read.
Ripples of battle.
Makers of ancient history.
And more recently, the Second World Wars.
The case for Trump and the latest that you must order right now, it's already a number one bestseller, just released, The Dying Citizen.
Get it today.
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If we add to that what we witnessed last year, 80 million unbidden mail-out ballots sent out, Democrat governors across the nation saying we don't need to verify signatures, we can stretch the dates, suitcases of ballots being pulled from under tables on CCTV, Oh, and the Hunter Biden story being literally...
Censored at the source by Silicon Valley, the oldest newspaper in America, Alexander Hamilton's New York Post, not being allowed to repost the story of the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop.
Is it, again, I'm using you as my sounding board, is it hyperbole?
Is it exaggeration to say that this quote-unquote regime, this White House, is illegitimate, Professor?
Oh, I'm not going to adjudicate, because that's what Hillary Clinton did.
Remember, she said that he was not fairly elected.
Stacey Abrams did that.
All I will say is that when you transition in a single election cycle to from the highest you've ever had mail-in ballots in 2016 of 40% roughly, and you go to 63%, 102 mail-in or early ballots, and you go to 63%, 102 mail-in or early ballots, and the error rate goes from a typical per state average of 3% to 4% rejection rate.
And it goes down to .2 to .4, depending on the state.
And then you're told that when you more than double the amount of work to tabulate those ballots, and you need double the amount of workers, yet you're going to find less error.
Then you usually would when you have half the ballot.
I just don't believe that's possible because I think what had happened is what you said that there was radical changes in the state legislature's domain of establishing state galloping laws in key states, Pennsylvania, for example, and others in which, as you said, The dates when ballots were due were changed.
You did not have to have your full name, last name or first name could be dropped off in some cases.
Sometimes ballots were not thrown out often when they did not have an address or the improper address.
And all of that occurred fueled by things like $500 million of Mark Zuckerberg Silicon Valley cash targeted To enhance in a way that I think you could argue was illegal to pick and choose which precincts you're going to pour private money in to enhance a particular type of agenda for a government poll worker or registrar officer.
So yeah, I think there was a lot of really problematic questions and the result is that Election day, and I think I can say that without any hesitancy, the data shows that election day is a construct that the majority of people did not vote on election day.
And that would mean everything said that from that second debate, which was critical, there were about 50 million people that didn't that might have been affected, but they had already voted.
So we're warping the traditional idea of election day, and we're doing it because the left feels that if they don't do that, they will not get the consensus they need because their agenda is not appealing to most people. - I expected a very judicious, conscientious response on my prompting conscientious response on my prompting you to try and adjudicate on the legitimacy of the current administration.
But your answer is a very full and robust one.
Let me ask you to adjudicate from the historian's perspective.
Will you put the last nine months of the Biden regime into modern presidential perspective?
Many have compared him to Carter, but at least Carter had a full four years to get to the Iran hostage crisis, the malaise, the oil crisis.
Should anybody, anybody who has a triple digit IQ be surprised at the rapidity, the alacrity of the decline of America in less than 12 months?
Yes.
Well, I finished the dying citizen right before he took office and I predicted that it would be like this.
And then I wrote an epilogue the first two months about what had happened in January and February.
And so I wasn't surprised because he.
He was non-compos mentis.
Biden was not in control of his own destiny and he was being manipulated or used.
Not that he had a very stellar record as a senator or vice president.
He did not.
He had a bad habit of using racial epithets, racialist language, crazy opportunistic positions that would go back and forth.
But nevertheless, He was an empty vessel that the AOC, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren wing of that party, which were pretty much socialists, used to carry that agenda across the finish line because it gave a veneer they thought of respectability.
So I wasn't surprised that as soon as he was elected, then they took over and they have been over.
And, you know, you mentioned Jimmy Carter, but Jimmy Carter was naive.
and then he was incompetent.
But in the latter period, he did have the Carter Doctrine that said, "We're going to not allow Russia, Soviet Union to change the makeup of the Middle East." He did increase the defense budget.
He did, as incompetent as he was, try to rescue the hostages after inept leadership.
So there were elements that are completely lacking.
These people are not Democrats.
They're not Bill Clinton.
They're not Harry Truman.
They're not JFK.
They're neo-socialist Jacobins.
And they either want to change the demography or change the system of governance to advance an agenda that they, in their naivete, thought might work for their own benefit.
Now has exploded.
And now they're nihilists.
Their idea is, I don't care if the border is destroyed.
I'm going to push this further because I want a new demography.
I don't care if we've lost deterrence in Afghanistan.
I don't care anymore if there's $80 billion of weapons.
I don't care if critical racial theory is tearing the country apart.
I don't care if new monetary theory says that you can print money and you'll have prosperity if it's bankrupt.
I'm just going to push this stuff.
Because I'm going to institutionalize it, and it's taking down some people and subsidizing others, and that's what I'm all about.
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Let's get very specific.
You built your stellar reputation on military history, on strategy.
You weren't surprised that a person who's non-composementis would result in such an incredibly negative policy palette.
But really, the depth of the national security situation, whether it's vulnerability to blackmail because of his son, the fall of Kabul, the southern border, let's put that into historic perspective, Professor.
How bad have The qualitative measures of our security degraded in just the last nine months.
Our potential, or likely, our actual enemy.
So, China has now vastly increased the intrusions into Taiwanese waters and airspace.
And why have they done that?
We don't have to speculate, Seb.
They write it in their own public megaphones, their own documents.
And they feel that Afghanistan showed the world that United States is not only an unreliable ally, but is a precipitously unreliable, that at any given moment it can leave the biggest air base in Central Asia, or a billion dollar rehab embassy, or $80 billion in weapons.
And if it can do that, it can just turn its back on Taiwan on a dime.
And therefore the Taiwanese, while they still have time, are supposed to cut a deal with the Chinese.
And then the Australians and the Japanese and the South Koreans are saying to us, we re-armed.
We took risk to challenge the Chinese because under President Trump, we were starting to have this broad coalition.
What are we doing now?
Are we going to be pruned like limbs that are exposed naked to the elements?
Where is the United States?
So yeah, we're losing.
North Korea suddenly comes out of the woodwork again and says, you know, I'm going to stand by a nuclear weapon.
came ill soon and I'm going to declare that Japan, the United States and Australia are menaces.
And then Iran says, we're stepping up nuclear.
So deterrence can be lost in a day, but it's reacquisition and it's very difficult.
It requires, unfortunately, some material concrete signal or exercise that show you that you're serious.
And that's what's dangerous about throwing it away.
Because we don't want to get in a shooting war to prove that we are much stronger than the Chinese.
We are.
And every element of military and economic power, even at this degrading state, we're much more powerful.
But why should we have to prove that?
We have to prove that, unfortunately, maybe,
Because we gave the wrong signals of being spiritually weak and throughout history when a strong power Allows a weaker power and a Senate to bully them that power then says ah if I had that power I would use it, but they are so weak and dubious of their own Mission or their own values that with all those advantages They still can be defeated because they lack deterrence based on willpower so
And that's dangerous, and the left doesn't understand that their policies are very reckless and get people killed.
And they will get people killed unless we restore deterrence.
And so, I'm very depressed about it.
I'm very depressed about how willingly the Pentagon blamed everybody.
They blamed each other, they blamed the administration, they blamed the State Department, and those people and those agencies blamed them.
Now, one general stood up and said, I was wrong.
This project was going to collapse the way that we were approaching it in June and July and August.
I'm sorry.
We haven't heard any of that.
Instead we're searching out mythical white supremacists.
That's what we're doing in the military.
The phrase you use, spiritual weakness, is a very powerful one, and I think it's provocative.
Dictators, oligarchs, when they see spiritual weakness, they see opportunity, whether it's North Korea, whether it's Russia, or whether it's China.
Let's talk about...
So here's the question you raise. - Yes.
When it comes to the domestic elite having betrayed the working man, having betrayed the middle class on both sides of the aisle.
And they did so over the last 50, 60 years.
This is, you know, J.D.
Vance's Hillbilly Elegy.
This is the Forgotten Man.
They did this in collusion with or collaboration with the globalists or the globalist agenda.
Can we spend a moment on that?
Because, you know, the left always says, oh, this is a dog whistle like cosmopolitan when you say globalists.
But it really is a value system.
When you say, in league with the global agenda, who is that referring to, Professor Hanson?
Well, I try to be literal and not just talk in vagaries, but we have this Davos crowd, and that's too general in itself.
So Klaus Schwab, the architect of Davos, is now on a project that he has entitled The Great Reset.
And he's written a book called The Great Reset in COVID-19.
And his argument is, That in this period of global crises, it's an opportunity to tell the world that you're on the wrong trajectory.
And we've already seen some of their elements enacted.
They've had a global consensus to charge a particular rate for corporate taxes, so a country like Ireland that wants investment will not be allowed to do that.
And these are rules that they envision that will transcend national sovereignty.
And what are they?
There are things like reduction in the use of petroleum or natural gas and emphasis on solar power, even though we know that that will reduce, at least in the short term, the standard of living.
It's diversity in the corporate boardroom, equity.
And so we're going to do this on a national scale, and it's going to have credibility because of plurality.
In other words, the more nations that are involved somehow translates into a superior Moral stance over the Congress of the United States, even though, as I said earlier, half the countries in the world are not consensual societies.
And I think even the half that claim they are about half of them are not.
And so where this leads to is The International Criminal Court saying that we're going to file a suit against an American soldier for violation of what we call the rules of war.
Or Anthony Blinken said, you know, I don't trust our own adjudicators, so I'm having the UN come in and see whether we're acting in a racist fashion against our own people.
Or the World Health Organization should supplant our own health agencies because they have more influence given Chinese money, even though they've said things that are completely bankrupt and with no credibility, but you can't be a constitutional republic and surrender your sovereignty or your choices or your options to a transnational group that has no credibility.
I mean, we learned that, I thought, with the League of Nations.
Yeah.
And it's always, as I say in the book, it was the word cosmopolitan translates as globalist.
It comes from the Greek Citizen of the world.
And people talked about the ancient world.
Alexander the Great said, I'm going to bring a brotherhood of man, unite all the people under my benighted leadership.
Napoleon said, I'm going to make a beautiful continental system and get rid of... Hitler said the same thing.
The Comintern said the same thing.
But it doesn't have a very illustrious history when we talk about global governance or surrendering American unique exceptional constitutionalism to, I don't know what you'd call the global norm these days.
Yeah, I think dictatorial, latent dictatorial tendencies is how I label it.
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I am.
I think he was eccentric.
Well, you know, he was famous for sort of on the other side of the hill writing about the German generals after World War Two.
But he wrote his strategy book is really a case history of generals who tried to avoid the Klauswitzian direct battle and said, "You know what?
It's not...
the army is a manifestation of an economic system, and just because you kill the army doesn't mean they can't recreate another one.
What you can do psychologically is make it impossible for them to field an army." That was sort of the strategy we used against Japan, finally.
We said, you know what?
We're not going to do any more Okinawas or Iwo Jimas.
And it's just going to be endless, because they have another 7 million.
We're going to go in and mine the harbors of Japan.
We're going to firebomb the industrial centers.
Finally, we're going to force them through nuclear weapons to surrender.
And as bloodthirsty as that sounds, I think you can make the argument, millions of lives were saved.
That otherwise would have been lost in a clout Switzian fight over the Japanese homeland.
And where do you stand on Toynbee?
I'm just curious.
Yeah, you know, Arnold Toynbee is what I guess we would call a determinist.
You know, he had these cycles of what creates and destroys societies and he goes through these iconic civilizations, study of history.
And I like that.
He was a classicist, so he wrote fundamental works on Sparta and actually he has some of the greatest essays on the Spartan army.
Uh, so he's in history, but what he did say, I think is, is, uh, is important.
He got a lot of his ideas from, uh, Oswald Spangler, Decline of the West.
He doesn't quite, and Hegel as well.
He's Hegelian.
And he did make a point that the problem in society is the marriage of consumer capitalism, which is necessary and constitutional government is necessary, puts an enormous burden to resist the accruing affluence and leisure.
And the citizen can't be a slave to their appetites.
You can't be somebody out of the Roman satiricon, the novel satiricon.
You've got to use your church or your traditions or your community or custom to say, it's legal to indulge myself.
I have the material ability to indulge myself, but it's deleterious for my civilization and I won't do that.
And that's what he ultimately became a pessimist.
And so it's doomed to failure as Spengler did.
I'm a little bit more confident than he was.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, you have your marching orders.
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God bless you, sir.
I want to say thank you on behalf of all of our listeners for doing what you do and, most importantly, speaking truth at a time where it takes courage to do so.