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	I'm just trying to get it.
	All I want to know is what the people in behind want us to do.
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	The third instance of harassment for Kirsten Sinema, the Democrat senator, who along with Manchin is refusing, for the time being, to go along with the insane trillions and trillions of dollars of the Democrats' spending spree.
	This isn't grassroots.
	This isn't a real response.
	This is from activists, some of them illegal aliens, associated with organisations that have received over a million dollars from George Soros' foundations.
	They're desperate.
	These are their tactics.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network, coming to you from the Reliefactor.com studios, just outside the insalubrious swamp that is Washington, D.C.
	So what's the response?
	Well, first things first, how long is it going to take for them to cave?
	It's tough.
	It's tough.
	Why?
	Because you're not being pilloried.
	You're not being harassed by the other side of the aisle.
	Because we don't do that.
	Whatever happened on January the 6th, Conservatives don't screech and howl at the moon.
	We don't claw at the bronze doors of the Supreme Court when a certain individual is nominated to become an Associate Justice.
	We don't have events outside the White House to talk about how excited we would be, as Madonna said, because of her dreams of blowing up that building.
	Yes, that's what she said the day after the inauguration in 2017.
	I know, because I was inside the White House as she was talking about her fantasy of killing a president.
	We don't have actors.
	What was it, Johnny Depp?
	I think it was Johnny Depp who said, when was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
	The right doesn't harass.
	The right doesn't threaten.
	Name me one well-known conservative figure who's called for the assassination of somebody they politically disagree with in the last, oh, I don't know, 20 years.
	You can't.
	Show me footage the likes of what we have played here in the last 48 hours.
	Whether it's people surrounding Kirsten Sinema at Reagan Airport just outside DC as she got off her flight without a security detail.
	There was a police officer there next to her doing nothing, seemingly just being an oxygen thief.
	Well, the footage we played, was it yesterday, John?
	Was it yesterday that the toilet stall?
	I think it was.
	It's incredible.
	It feels like days ago when activists hound this woman by following her into a public restroom at a university as she's on the toilet in a stall filming the harassment.
	I'm telling her, you better, you better keep your promises.
	You better vote with Nancy and with Chuck to indebt not just their generation, but the next two, three, four generations.
	Show me footage like that from a MAGA supporter.
	Show me footage from, I don't know, a Reagan supporter, a Bush, not even a Bush supporter would do that.
	So will they, Cave?
	What happens when they do?
	And who started all this?
	Who normalized all of this?
	Show me a conservative politician.
	Not some crazy, fringe, podcaster, some nutty, radical, Holocaust-denying loony.
	No.
	Show me a national conservative figure.
	Who said the words that Maxine Waters has said.
	In public.
	When you see one of them.
	When you see somebody from the other party.
	In public.
	Buying their groceries.
	At a gas station.
	Pumping gas.
	Surround them.
	Harass... She actually said this.
	Make them feel unwelcome.
	We've never done that.
	Show me an attorney general, even slimebags like Bill Barr.
	You heard my story about me running into Bill Barr a few weeks ago.
	He's the worst of the worst.
	Not even Bill Barr has publicly said what Eric Holder did.
	Eric Holder, who, as he was the Attorney General for Barack Obama, described himself as Obama's wingman.
	Not the second highest law enforcement officer in America, but as a political wingman for the incumbent in the White House.
	It's never happened.
	Never, ever happened.
	Or when he said, at a political event, maybe he didn't know he was being recorded, but we have the audio, we've played it again and again and again.
	He said, what do you do when the Republicans are down?
	You don't help them up.
	Eric Holder, former Attorney General of the United States, second highest law enforcement officer outside of the White House, said what?
	You kick them!
	You kick a Republican when they're down!
	So Kirsten, are you surprised?
	Joe Manchin, are you surprised?
	A little bit of a piece of comms advice, if you haven't seen the footage yet.
	In West Virginia, some of the same activists, probably also funded by some Soros Foundation, got in their kayaks To go to the yacht club where Manchin's yacht was moored.
	Big old yacht called, I think it's called Almost Heaven.
	And he was standing off the back of the deck.
	And they kayak up to his yacht and they start doing the same thing they were doing to Sinemar in that restroom saying, you better stand with us!
	You better vote for the 48 trillion, billion, quazillion bills and you better keep your promises.
	And he's standing there, off the bow of his yacht.
	And the last thing is, one of the crazies says, you're gonna tax the rich, right?
	And Joe Manchin says, yeah, we're gonna tax the rich.
	As he's standing on the bow of his yacht.
	Stern, bow.
	Which is it?
	Which is the back end?
	The stern.
	Sorry.
	I'm not nautical.
	Okay?
	If it doesn't have an engine, I'm not interested.
	He was on the stern of his yacht.
	Big ol' yacht.
	Saying, yeah, we're gonna tax the rich.
	Not a good image.
	Joe, not a good image.
	Will they cave?
	My gut?
	This is gonna go through.
	Might not be five trillion or four trillion.
	It'll be two, two and a half trillion.
	Numbers that don't mean anything anymore.
	We used to get upset at things that were in the hundreds of billions.
	Can you even compute how long it would take to even count a trillion dollars?
	Just to physically count it.
	How many years it would take you?
	It means nothing.
	And that's what they're hoping.
	Because it is hard to comprehend for a mere mortal that it won't mean anything.
	Especially when they say, the most absurd and insulting of all, that it doesn't cost anything.
	The cost of five trillion dollars will be quote unquote zero.
	I'm often asked, what is gaslight?
	What is that phrase gaslighting?
	Well, that's gaslighting.
	A decision that will turn your children, your grandchildren, and your great-grandchildren into indentured servants, just paying off the debt for the rest of their lives.
	And when somebody tells you that costs zero, that's gaslighting.
	Way beyond propaganda.
	It's a lie so big That when you question it, you question your own sanity.
	We have an incredible show for you today.
	Some breaking news from John Solomon.
	We have, is he the youngest congressman?
	I do believe he is.
	Madison Cawthorn on America First.
	Jack Posobiec.
	We have the father of one of the Marines murdered in Kabul.
	And my colleague and friend, Eric Metaxas.
	Stay on this channel.
	Mic's on.
	All right.
	Keynesian economics strikes again.
	What?
	Keynesian economics strikes again.
	Yeah.
	So we said Scheller and we said Big Tech, right?
	Is that the two?
	Yes.
	And Border.
	Oh, Border.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Give me those numbers again.
	Dan, what did you say?
	Um...
	Thank you.
	I don't think we have the audio for Sullivan.
	I looked again, but everything else seems ready.
	God.
	All right.
	We got two and a half.
	Eric, let me know when you get the most.
	Okay, so Jenna's in Arizona.
	Oh, oh, oh.
	We might have a studio in Arizona, right?
	I think we do.
	the Phoenix one are you connecting to Solomon?
	I'm dialing him up right now.
	Send us-- Skype channel one.
	That's right, he is now.
	Mr. Solomon, can you hear us?
	I'm good, yeah, I'm just toning down, sorry.
	Oh, no worries, no worries.
	Who needs head drums anyway?
	How bad is it?
	Oh, man.
	Alright, hang on.
	I probably need a mic up, Artis.
	I'm not qualified for this.
	Alright, how's that?
	Better?
	Do I look all right, guys?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you look fine.
	Let me do full screen of you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it looks fine.
	All right, so we've got to talk about that amazing story you sent me for the commission chairman.
	Let's talk a little bit more about... What's his name?
	Durham.
	What else is important?
	I just had an interview with President Trump a little bit ago.
	He really laced into the Justice Department.
	For your podcast or for just the news?
	For the podcast, you know, for John Solomon Report.
	Excellent.
	All right, let's start with that.
	Okay, yeah, he laced it to the Justice Department.
	What is that called?
	Do you have a name for that?
	Is it John Solomon Reports?
	John Solomon Reports is the name.
	Oh, cool.
	Okay, good.
	It's like his Twitter handle.
	Oh, thank you.
	That's very kind.
	And when is that going up?
	It'll be up in about 30 minutes.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Cool, cool, cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We'll be ready.
	Coming back in 45 seconds.
	Sounds good.
	Okie dokes.
	I'd say DeVos on Fox News.
	30 seconds.
	Yep, 30 seconds.
	Alright.
	Do you think that A block was too short?
	With Sean?
	You might have to... Are you sure?
	No, I can maneuver around that.
	Yeah, if it's any time in that minute, I'm good.
	Okay.
	All right, stand by.
	Hi, this is President Trump this is President Trump and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	Thank you kindly, Mr. President.
	Yes, indeed, this is America First.
	I'm former strategist of President Trump, member of the National Security Education Board, and we are joined every week by one of the few journalists left in America.
	He is the creator, the editor-in-chief of JustTheNews.com.
	You can follow him at John Solomon Reports, Jay Solomon on Twitter, and his podcast, Here's John Solomon Reports, and I think you've had a very special guest!
	Who was it, John?
	Yes, President Trump was just on my podcast a few moments ago, just finished up the interview before I came into the studio here, and he had a lot to say.
	He talked about China and Taiwan and that Taiwan would not be enduring the intimidation it is undergoing now if he were president, blamed it on the weakness of Joe Biden and his foreign policy failures, and really laced into the Justice Department for announcing last night it was opening investigations into parents who confront School boards over critical race theory saying that you would think in America parents would have a say over their children's education and what they're being taught but the left doesn't think that's appropriate.
	Yeah, so we're going to share some of the elements of that letter from Attorney General Merrick Garland that is based upon one letter received by the DOJ about... Remarkable.
	I know, truly remarkable.
	Threats to, alleged threats to teachers or members of school boards.
	I don't remember anything of this ilk.
	...happening during BLM or Antifa, John.
	I mean, you're the reporter, you've got the databases.
	Did we see a mass unleashing of federal assets and FBI agents after months and months of arson, looting and even murder?
	We didn't, and that was both under President Trump and President Biden.
	The Justice Department didn't do very much now.
	Attorney General Barr sent some people to protect buildings, but we didn't see this sort of FBI go out and talk to the people who are creating intimidation and tell them to cut it out routine that we're now seeing here with Merrick Garland.
	It's a reminder that over the last five, six, seven, eight years, the left particularly, and those that sympathize with the left inside these agencies, I've tried to use the FBI as a political tool, not as a law enforcement tool, but as a political tool, like what happened with Russia collusion, where a bogus story was investigated for two and three years to hamper the Trump presidency.
	The continued use of the FBI to settle political scores instead of focus on crimes is not good for America.
	But isn't this a qualitatively worse situation, John?
	Not by way of excusing it previously, but when you saw the corruption of the likes of Comey, McCabe, Stroke, and everybody else, and Brennan, there was a political nexus.
	They were trying to take out the person who could defeat Hillary Clinton in an election.
	So, you know, it's evil, but it's understandable.
	Here, John, we're talking about targeting Parents.
	It's not exactly political, is it?
	No, but it is an effort at free speech.
	And listen, it's a certain type of parent.
	A parent that subscribes to patriotic education and rejects critical race theory.
	And so there is a political litmus test when you look at what sort of parents are out there and likely to be targeted by this.
	It's not the left parents that are sitting silently by or even supporting BLM or things like that.
	It's centrist parents and conservative parents who don't want their children to be taught America is a racist country when it isn't.
	And I think that political tinge is inherent in what the Attorney General is asking these agents to do now.
	Follow this man, Jay Solomon reports on justthenews.com, bookmark it, check it every morning, every evening.
	I'm just curious, John, because you have such great sources, you know so many people inside DC, inside these agencies, no names, no pack drill, but are you hearing anything from people who work in the bureaucracy or FBI special agents who say that they're disturbed, John?
	Or is everybody just keeping their head down?
	You know, not specific because it's so new, not specific to the order last night, but the larger question of how the FBI has become a political football, how there's a disconnect from its leadership in Washington, which seems to be very partisan and left-leaning, and the rank-and-file members who just want to go out and solve crimes and protect the American people.
	99% of the FBI is dedicated to its mission of neutral enforcement of law, protecting America, but they're disturbed by the small number of people that are still out there trying to argue for political investigations, trying to use the power of surveillance to intimidate critics and others in the way of political agendas.
	And I think that that's something that is deeply disturbing to the men and women of the FBI today.
	Let's talk about the latest developments from the DOJ that are positive, seemingly.
	We have the Sussman indictment.
	I read it.
	I had to fly to an event last week.
	I read it again on the plane and I had my team members, I had Eric County because I was so stunned.
	45 mentions of Hillary Clinton and the Hillary Clinton campaign in 27 pages.
	So no punches pulled there.
	We have new subpoenas.
	I don't want to...
	I don't want to get anybody excited unnecessarily, but it seems as if there's some meat on this boner from John Durham.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Listen, I've been saying for months, I've seen signs of activity of a real criminal investigation, actions that were looking like something moving or marching towards an indictment, and one did come out, and then after that indictment against Sussman came out, there's a new round of subpoenas, new interviews going on.
	This is a thorough and methodical investigation.
	It's not on a political timeline, it's on a truth timeline, and it has run into many obstacles of people trying to Thwart the prosecutors from getting records.
	There have been subpoena battles behind the scenes.
	But John Durham, he gets what happened here.
	He has now laid it very clearly out.
	Hillary Clinton's campaign committed a political dirty trick to try to stick a bogus Russia allegation on the sitting president of the United States.
	And she used former government officials with great bona fides.
	Someone like Sussman, former DOJ.
	Christopher Steele, former MI6.
	A guy named Dan Jones, former FBI, and all of these guys are flooding the system with collusion allegations that weren't true.
	It was a sophisticated political dirty trick.
	John Durham has it, but I don't think we know the whole story yet.
	A lot more revelations coming in the months ahead.
	But is your expectation that these will peter out at the level of a Lisa Stroke, a Lisa Page and a Peter Stroke?
	Or could this implicate people who actually would have had to have given them the orders to propagate the smear campaign?
	One part of the investigation that's been very active, and not public, but very active behind the scenes, is what did the FBI leadership, and what did the actual agents who worked on the FISA warrants, what did they know?
	Should they have questioned their own FISA warrant?
	Did they know things in their FISA warrant?
	We saw the one lawyer, Clinesmith, get charged last year, but there are hints in that indictment that other people knew other things were wrong with that FISA.
	And I think that part of the investigation is probably the next shoe to fall, even as we follow the Sussman et al.
	strategy of just all the Clinton people who are flooding the system with bogus allegations.
	I think the FBI and how high up in the FBI will be the final hurrah for this investigation.
	We'll get answers for the first time of who knew what, when, and did they really engage at the highest levels of the FBI in a dirty trick?
	Well, I'm not John Solomon, but I was so fascinated by what I found in that 47-page indictment that I think Mr. G has convinced me I'm going to sit down and do my own analysis and publish it at sebgorka.com because the access that Durham had to internal communications between the Hillary Clampagne, Perkins Coie, and a so-called big tech executive number one.
	Fascinating.
	Stay with us for more with John Solomon here on America First.
	So who's this?
	Yeah, Mike's on.
	Who's this Dan Jones?
	So he was in the story last week.
	He's a retired FBI analyst.
	He was hired by the Democracy Integrity Project, George Soros funded that group, to continue the Russia investigation.
	He actually hired Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele after they left the Clinton campaign.
	And in some documents I got from court last week, D.C. Superior Court in the case that nobody was watching, you see him taking these allegations of the Alpha Bank server, the same ones that Sussman walked into the FBI.
	He walks them up to John McCain and the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he gets that committee to investigate it for a year.
	It was a bogus allegation.
	He gets them to investigate.
	You know what the incredible thing about the whole thing is?
	So when you read that indictment, is, is, you know, and who, do we know who the big tech, tech executive number one is?
	I do.
	I'll say off-air, but not on- Okay, so here is this.
	You read the whole thing, and it's the paper trail, and the emails, and that fabulous moment where Sussman, or is it Sussman?
	I think it's Sussman, or it's the big tech executives say, hey, I know any of this evidence isn't true, but could it be plausible?
	Could it be presented in such a way that people would believe it, even though it's a lie?
	You were talking about it being a red herring.
	Yes!
	And you have to still walk it into the FBI.
	So here's the thing that I think most people may, you got it, but I think most people will miss.
	The thing they fake is an email communication, which is totally normal because it's some kind of marketing thing, between the Russian Alpha Bank and the Trump organization.
	That's the only thing they manage to manufacture.
	Okay.
	And then...
	And by the way, it turns out that wasn't even a Trump computer.
	It was in Pennsylvania.
	But the fact that Sussman walks in to the chief counsel of the DOJ and says, hey, I'm just a concerned citizen.
	They take the bait, which is manufactured.
	But then people miss the next line.
	And the FBI initiated an investigation.
	For what?
	A bank spoke to the Trump Organization?
	What's the crime there, John?
	I missed it.
	There is no crime.
	There is no crime?
	There never was a crime.
	There never was a crime.
	Listen, I think when Attorney General Barr said that the Russian investigation was never properly predicated, he was basing it on information like this, which is that the FBI knew when it took it in, it wasn't real information.
	Right.
	Terrible.
	I'm not an expert, you must have read thousands of them, but that 27-page indictment looked very interesting to me.
	It was a narrative.
	It was like a novel.
	And you get to see, you know, I've been calling this a political dirty trick since early 98 when I was able to get enough of the data.
	And you now see how sophisticated it was.
	Surrogates, right?
	Former government officials being turned into surrogates to dump a bogus story.
	And because they have the bona fides, the FBI, of course, is going to open up.
	And when Sussman in his email says to the client, or whatever it is, or to the tech guy, oh, and the reporter sent me the draft of the article.
	The reporter sending the Hillary Clinton campaign smear lawyer the draft of the article.
	It's frightening.
	There are a lot of people in it.
	All right, I'm not coming in with anything, right?
	No.
	All right, sounds good.
	We've got a relief factor here.
	15 seconds.
	Actually, come in with four.
	Come in with four.
	Cut four.
	Cut four.
	All right.
	All right.
	Making sense out of today's news, here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	sad music But if you hear what these protesters were saying, if you hear what these, and they're not just protesters, they're constituents of Kyrsten Sinema.
	They are people who supported Kyrsten Sinema.
	They are people who knocked on doors for Kyrsten Sinema, who feel betrayed, and who are telling their senator their story and why this bill is important to them.
	Well I guess it's alright to harass any senator then in the restroom as they're going to the toilet.
	By the way, Ana Navarro, you can't be a senator's constituent if you're an illegal alien.
	They're not their senators, because they admit that they're here illegally.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, here every single day to give you the news, the truth, the analysis, and push back on the propaganda.
	We're back with John Solomon.
	You've got to listen, it's going up in Ten minutes!
	The latest podcast from John Solomon Reports with President Trump.
	Follow him at jsolomonreports and bookmarkjustinews.com.
	You sent me earlier today an unbelievable... I don't know how many man hours this took you to research, but will you tell us about this story you broke at justinews.com about the chairman of the quote-unquote insurrection investigative committee?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, for months, weeks now, we've seen Benny Thompson, the Democratic congressman from Mississippi, on television, sympathizing with the police officers who were injured on January 6th during the Capitol riot and denouncing an event that he has repeatedly called an insurrection.
	But 50 years ago, he was on the opposite side of an insurrectionist movement.
	Back in 1971, when a group known as the Republic of New Africa was making waves throughout Mississippi.
	Why?
	Because the FBI was closely watching as it was trying to put together a movement to take, if necessary by force, land from people in Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, South Carolina, and Alabama, and create.
	create a separate nation on USL called the Republic of New Africa.
	So just to be explicit here, these are ethnic separatists in America.
	That's what we're talking about.
	Yes, they actually wrote their own Declaration of Independence.
	They renounced their citizenship in a meeting monitored by the FBI.
	They engaged in multiple conflicts with police officers, usually doing something lawful like stopping a car for a traffic incident or executing a search warrant.
	Three times, members of the R&A group killed a police officer in the early 70s.
	Benny Thompson, then a young alderman from a tiny town called Bolton, Mississippi, then known as B.G.
	Thompson, not even known as Benny, he spoke out in favor of this group, embraced this group, actually suggested that the police were wrong to pursue it, that the police were to blame for the friction that they were creating with this group, and basically embraced a separatist group.
	After they killed a police officer in August of 1971.
	Police officer executing a search warrant.
	Shot dead.
	Another officer wounded.
	An FBI agent.
	Wounded by RNA members who fired hundreds of rounds out of their home, Benny Thompson joined a news conference with other black leaders in Mississippi and blamed the cops for getting killed, saying it was their fault.
	Their desire to go after this group led to their deaths.
	They deserve the blame.
	That's the Benny Thompson of 50 years ago, and people are going to have to decide, is he pro-cop or not pro-cop?
	Is he for insurrection or against insurrection?
	Well, thank you for getting to the bottom of that.
	history on this, depending on the date and the moment in time in which he was operating as a politician.
	Well, thank you for getting to the bottom of that.
	Let's post that article right now on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	If there are consequences in politics, John, and if conservatives played as hard as the Democrats do, somebody should raise that at the hearing and ask, are you still in favor of ethnically-blazed violent separatism in America? are you still in favor of ethnically-blazed violent separatism in But But, John, nobody's going to raise that in front of this man, are they?
	Well, listen, there are two Republicans, at least by title, on the committee.
	Maybe Lynn Cheney?
	We'll ask the question, we'll see.
	It should be asked, not for political reasons, but for common sense reasons.
	Should the man overseeing this very important investigation renounce past ties to a group that was clearly violent and left a terrible record in America.
	I think that's a legitimate question, regardless of your political strife.
	Yeah.
	And one thing we know for sure about this fake committee to investigate a fake insurrection, none of the dozens of people who are incarcerated since January the 6th, or the hundreds who were chased down across this nation, not one, not a single or the hundreds who were chased down across this nation, not one, not a single one of those Americans was charged with a Those are the facts of the matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	He's the founder.
	He is the editor-in-chief at justthenews.com.
	Thank you, John Solomon.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Mic's on. - Yeah.
	Okay.
	Is he offscape?
	Yeah, he's gone.
	Can you, uh, play Cut 5?
	Cut 5... Um... Hang on, let me find it.
	There it is.
	Hello, America First.
	And would you feel the same way if these were, you know, pro, you know, supporters of the, you know, who felt very passionately that the election had been stolen against the former president and, you know, were following some Democrat into a bathroom while they were, you know, going to the bathroom, following, you know, Speaker Pelosi into a woman's room?
	I mean, would that... Is it fair for anybody just because they're passionate about something?
	Okay, I'm gonna bring him up.
	up second oh yeah
	all right
	all right -
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	How do you send a very subtle message to those around you with regards to who you are, your identity, and how much you love this country and love your freedoms?
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	How are we at the second guest of the day already?
	What a packed show!
	We will be joined by Jack Posobiec, we'll be joined by the father of one of the Marines killed in Kabul, and Eric Metaxas.
	But now, let's go to North Carolina's 11th congressional district, To welcome, I do believe he may be the youngest congressman on Capitol Hill, Madison Cawthorn.
	Welcome to America First.
	Seb, great being on with you, brother.
	Anything that starts out with America First, you know I love it.
	That's the reason why we called it America First, not the Seb Gorka Show.
	OK, I asked you in the break, we have this update, the breaking news that they have released Colonel Scheller from the brig.
	You have spoken to his legal team just a few moments ago.
	So tell us the latest.
	What do our listeners across the nation need to know?
	Yes, indeed.
	I've spoken with several organizations that are involved with Lt.
	Col.
	Scheller, and what's ridiculous is this is a man who stood up and criticized the Bosch withdrawal from Afghanistan that left 13 service members dead.
	And because he stood up to this incompetence, he was forced to have a mental health screening, and then, Sebastian, he has been stuck in solitary confinement in Camp Lejeune.
	It's terrible, but right now he's going to be heading to a court-martial very soon.
	It's going to be closed doors, so you can take that on its surface for how it's going to be.
	Probably a gag order going to come down.
	And even as a member of Congress, I can't even go in there to try and defend him.
	It's ridiculous the amount of obscurity the Biden administration is wanting to have in this situation.
	So a member of Congress can't go to the court-martial of Colonel Scheller?
	That is absolutely correct, which I think is an incredible shame.
	Even when it's in my home state of North Carolina, just a couple hours east of me, it's terrible.
	But I think we can all realize what that means.
	He's going to be railroaded by the higher-ups.
	And I understand that if somebody is going to speak out against their commanding officers, they have to be let out of the military.
	That makes sense.
	But he does not need to be prosecuted by our government for attacking people while we still allow having these terrible generals who went and testified on Capitol Hill and their feeble responses trying to dodge questions about why do we give up our air base in Afghanistan?
	Why do we remove all our troops like this?
	Why do we give $86 billion of weaponry to a Taliban, a country that hates us?
	Why do we spend 20 years over in Afghanistan to replace the Taliban with the Taliban?
	It's insane.
	Yeah, and a man who is being court-martialed despite the fact that after he made that video he handed in his commission.
	He resigned his commission effective September the 11th and we're already in October.
	Follow this man at RepCawthorn right now.
	Congressman Big Tech, a phony whistleblower on Capitol Hill.
	Is this just another attempt to criminalize conservatives and see more censorship on social media?
	Sebastian, this is why I like you so much.
	You just say it like it is.
	This is absolutely a psychological operation that the big tech and big government are trying to do right now, to try and have this whistleblower that comes out.
	But you know, if a whistleblower from Project Veritas comes out, they get banned off all social media and attacked in every single aspect of their lives.
	But right now, what's going on is they're trying to be able to limit our First Amendment rights.
	And I understand many people will say, oh, but aren't these private industries?
	Well, the problem is this is the Newtown Square, and just like you wouldn't want one person in command of the water for all 330 million Americans, you don't want one person as the arbiter of truth for everything that can be said in America.
	Yeah, no, absolutely.
	This is a monopoly.
	It is a cartel, and they need to be broken up or to lose their 230 immunities.
	Madison, tell us... Sebastian, one more thing on that.
	You know, I'm sure you noticed When Facebook and Telegram and WhatsApp and all these social media giants went down yesterday, I think we have some major vulnerabilities in this situation.
	I think we need to have some better understanding of what's going on in these big tech companies, because I believe it was in an effort to try and silence the Taiwanese who are calling out the fact that they're about to be invaded by China.
	And the fact that the American military, the American Navy is not doing a damn thing about it.
	Joe Biden would be ashamed.
	More than 50 communist Chinese aircraft in free Taiwanese airspace yesterday.
	And yeah, interesting question.
	Nobody could use Facebook or Instagram to talk about it.
	We've got just over a minute left.
	I know it's close to your heart.
	Is there going to be Any resolution to the sheer insanity, the catastrophe at the border?
	Are any of these images of the thousands and thousands of Haitians, the images from Del Rio, will they create any difference in terms of the policy coming out of the White House?
	I don't believe it will.
	I mean, this is really a state-sponsored, and really the largest state-sponsored human trafficking operation in the history of the world, I believe.
	I mean, you see right now that you have these human traffickers, you have these coyotes who traffic people across the border, who are now literally saying, as reported by Axios, That they are trying to sell to these would-be migrants who are hesitant, saying, oh, no, no, no, Joe Biden has open border policies.
	You can go.
	So this completely falls in his lap.
	All of the human tragedy that's going on at our southern border is completely wrong.
	I think we need to halt all immigration until we can get a handle on what's going on at our southern border and fix our immigration system.
	We need to watch out for Americans, and that's our entire duty.
	He has a way with words.
	I'm going to use that with your permission.
	It is, without a doubt, the largest government-sponsored case of human trafficking in the world.
	And that government, sadly, is the Biden regime.
	Follow him at Cawthorn.House.Gov and on Twitter at RepCawthorn.
	Thank you, Congressman.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	So, referring back to nautical terminology mentioned in the monologue.
	As we were.
	The line, I just, I had to get it in when we didn't have guests on the line.
	The line from Jaws from Quint.
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	When did he say that?
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	Like, Brody's wife shows up and she's like, oh, he scares me.
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	Every line for that character is immortal, let's be honest.
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	So do you remember what we played you yesterday from the little fascist Fauci that, you know, Christmas, too early to say, might just have to cancel it.
	Can I just play that for you again, just so you can hear the words and then you hear What he has said since then.
	Cut eight.
	Play cut.
	But we can gather for Christmas or it's just too soon to tell?
	You know, Margaret, it's just too soon to tell.
	We've just got to concentrate on continuing to get those numbers down.
	OK, so it's too soon to tell.
	We might as well, might just have to cancel Christmas.
	That was on Face the Nation.
	Didn't go down too well.
	So what did he say on CNN yesterday?
	And this is again a fabulous example of gaslighting a la Fauci.
	Cut seven!
	Best way to assure That will be in good shape as we get into the winter, would be to get more and more people vaccinated.
	That was misinterpreted as my saying, we can't spend Christmas with our families, which was absolutely not the case.
	But just the way all of the other disinformation goes around, you say something talking about a landmark of a time and it gets misinterpreted that I'm saying you can't spend family Christmas time, which is nonsense.
	Do I have to say anything at this point?
	I mean, seriously.
	He just said, it's too early to know.
	We might have to cancel Christmas.
	Less than 24 hours later, he says, oh, that misinformation.
	I didn't say anything like that.
	Of course we're going to have Christmas.
	Why?
	Because you're not a scientist, you're not a truth teller, you're a political hack.
	You just bend with the breeze.
	The highest paid federal employee, $413,000.
	There's a reason you lasted as long as you do, because you're a swamp creature.
	You lie with alacrity.
	You lie in your sleep.
	You lie and you don't even know you're doing it.
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	And why are we playing the music from the best Star Trek movie?
	Number two, The Wrath of Khan.
	The first one's cool if you're a certain age.
	Little slow, made by the guy who did The Sound of Music.
	Not sure that made sense.
	Anyway, visually pretty cool.
	But The Wrath of Khan, just hornblower with phasers.
	Absolutely sublime.
	Why?
	Because Captain Kirk is finally going to space!
	He's 90 years old.
	William Shatner is gonna blast off on one of those Amazon rockets.
	I know it's not Mars.
	I know it's not the, you know, Romulan Empire, but it's pretty cool.
	90 years old.
	I saw that guy a couple years ago at a charity event he holds for handicapped kids and equine therapy, and the guy rode on into the arena on a horse.
	Guy's a dude.
	Happy birthday, happy starship voyage, happy Unknown Frontier.
	God bless you, Bill Shatner.
	All right, second hour.
	Where did that first hour go?
	Packed, packed show for us.
	We've got an hour with Eric Metaxas for the third instalment.
	We've got Darren Hoover, the father of Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover, one of the Marines killed in Kabul, will be with us.
	But first, somebody who, in the MAGA movement, I don't think he needs much introduction.
	However, I've never asked him properly The correct pronunciation, because they say posso, they say possobiak, it's got an e in it.
	So Jack, what's the correct pronunciation in Mandarin of your last name?
	Well, in Mandarin, you know, we would go with Dziek Posobiec.
	Ili po polski, Jacek Posobiec. Posobiec. Posobiec in Polish.
	Okay, there you go, po polsku.
	Okay, bardzo dobrze.
	So I think, as well as I'm here with my Hungarian friend, we can go with the official Polish pronunciation.
	In English we usually say Posobiec, but yeah, for Polish it would be Posobiec.
	Okay, Posobiec.
	We can do that.
	Dwa Brytanki, the Hungarian-Polish alliance is alive and well.
	That's what I learned when I was doing interrogations in the British Army, but we won't go there.
	Senior editor... No, I have to talk about Guantanamo Bay stories.
	I know, because you served there, you've lived in China, you are now senior editor for Human Events, you've served in the US Navy, and it says, I may be talking to a clone right now, because on your Twitter account it says, location Wuhan lab, but we'll You'll verify that next.
	Okay, you're here because...
	I'm everywhere.
	I'm everywhere.
	You are everywhere.
	You've got a book.
	We will discuss it momentarily.
	But first things first, I've got to ask you, because you're such a well-known figure in the MAGA movement, how are we doing?
	I ask people like Marjorie Taylor Greene when she's in the studio.
	I ask, you know, Matt Gaetz, are we winning?
	Are we losing?
	You look at the last nine months and it looks pretty grim.
	So what's Jack's estimate of the situation when you look at the battle space?
	Well, I look at the information battle space right now as, you know, as I would an Intel officer looking at any JIPO situation.
	And you really have to look at the fact that Joe Biden essentially came into office riding one pillar when it came to moderates and independents, and that was COVID, right?
	His entire selling point with this was that, I will end COVID.
	I have a plan.
	Remember, I have a plan.
	I can do this.
	We're going to, it turns out his plan was pretty much the plan that was already in place.
	But that was the move.
	He has not been able to come up on this.
	We were coming up on the one year anniversary, of course, of November 3rd of that evening, and we have not seen any of that.
	His support base has completely eroded.
	Remember, Joe Biden was nobody's first pick, even on the Democrat side.
	He was the last guy.
	He was the one they wanted instead of Bernie, right?
	Right, exactly.
	Okay.
	So the idea was that, okay, we don't want Biden, but we really don't want Bernie.
	So the party closed ranks around him.
	And they knew Tulsi, of course, couldn't get out there.
	Buttigieg never really had it.
	Warren came out too strongly against Silicon Valley.
	And then when she was talking about the wealth tax, that's what led the wealthy Democrat mega donors to say, we don't want Elizabeth Warren.
	So Biden was, he's sort of like the default candidate, if you will.
	He's the lazy choice, and his disapproval ratings are increasing.
	But that still doesn't answer my question.
	He could be losing support, but does that mean MAGA is alive and well?
	One thing that a lot of people don't want to talk about is that if you go in, and Rasmussen is one of the last places that actually does this on a daily base, they're tracking Trump's approval rating against Biden.
	He's ticking up and he's actually pulling ahead of where Biden is now.
	And they were very accurate during the election.
	They were the most accurate during 2016.
	I know they get a hard knock.
	They get a hard knock because they actually report true polls and they don't weight them plus six Democrat, plus 10 Democrat, et cetera, et cetera.
	The same way that you gov and CNN and the rest of them do.
	So when I look at that and I see a lot of people saying, you know, they kind of step back and they say, you know what?
	A lot of these things that we didn't worry about, like the border, like the economy, like Afghanistan, like our standing in the world, were sort of on pause.
	It almost felt like it was on autopilot.
	They weren't issues under Trump.
	Yeah, sure, the media would always say, oh, this tweet or this statement, take it out of context and be screaming and yelling about it.
	And plus, the big one, the really big one that I think a lot of people haven't figured out yet, or at least connected the dots on, is that Everything that Donald Trump said about COVID-19 and its origin story at the Wuhan lab has now proven to be true, a hundred percent, to the point that we're now hearing this information out of Australia that PCR testing machines and equipment were going into Wuhan as early as May of 2019, right?
	That's right around the same time that Trump and Pompeo made a few comments, you know, sort of dancing around this saying, I've seen information that it may have been early.
	Remember with the The military Olympic Games were held in Wuhan.
	Pompeo said, I've seen information that it may have been prior.
	It really strikes to me as I wonder if Pompeo saw something on the classified side that he wasn't able to talk about.
	So not to go down that rabbit hole, but the point being is, because he was proven right on the one pillar that everybody thought was Joe Biden's, people are now looking at this, comparing the two and saying, did we make the right decision to change horses in the middle of the stream of this pandemic?
	All right, so popularities are ticking out for President Trump.
	They're going drastically down for the incumbent.
	But what about the movement?
	What about the sense that because we get the calls here and America First, we broadcast from LA to New York, you know, millions of listeners.
	And a lot of people are just like, OK, that's it.
	They're just going to steal it again.
	It's over.
	It's done.
	If they get through H.R.
	4, if they get through this massive trillion dollar bill, There's nothing we can do.
	Where do you stand in terms of the movement's attitude to their own success?
	Well, I think 2022 is going to be a great test of this.
	You're going to see testbed cases.
	Of course, the Virginia election, which is coming up just in a couple of weeks here, is going to be a test of that.
	But also, when you look at some of the legislation that went up in Georgia, the legislation that went up in Texas, Arizona is talking about passing legislation now.
	To say, oh, excuse me, to fortify.
	Let's use the proper terminology, of course, right?
	To fortify, as I was at the Time Magazine told us.
	We're fortifying the elections.
	The same way that you said, no, the more we can get this pushed in key states, Georgia, Arizona, of course, needs to be done.
	Why?
	You've got three, it's bicameral, right?
	So it's two houses controlled by the Republicans and the governor's seat, both in Georgia and Arizona, are controlled by Republicans.
	There is no reason that that legislation should not be passed in those states.
	Now, with this case of Pennsylvania, you have a split because the Democrat governor in Pennsylvania and then a Republican House and Senate.
	Obviously, you're going to have issues there.
	That being said, if you're a Republican in the state of Pennsylvania, my home state, by the way, my Commonwealth, Florida, Philadelphia area, you need to stand firm.
	Be the immovable object.
	And you need the people to stand firm as well to say, gum up the works.
	We are not going to give you a budget.
	We're not going to put your nominees forward.
	We're not going to put your money forward until you give us the legislative correctiveness that we need to fix these elections.
	Okay, let's talk about the other side.
	This is noted homophobe Joy Ann Reid talking about my old boss in the White House, Steve Bannon.
	Cut 12, play cut.
	It's white nationalist thinking that Bannon is trying to spread.
	He said himself that he wanted to turn Breitbart into the home of the alt-right, Fernand.
	But they always manage to find people of color who will go along with it.
	You think Enrique Tarrio, who is Afro-Latino and still leading the Proud Boys that participated, members of it.
	participated in the January 6th insurrection.
	So the challenge here is that they are trying to seemingly recruit people from communities of color to be a part of this holy war.
	Part of this holy war with people of color as their front people.
	For those who are listening, you didn't see that, there was your former naval colleague veteran Nance was in the studio as well.
	Oh, I love Stolen Valor.
	We call him Stolen Valor Malcolm.
	Because he wears a medal that his unit was given, but he wasn't in combat for, correct?
	Exactly right.
	That's a unit ribbon.
	He also goes around, he tells people that he's an expert on counterterrorism, an expert on interrogation, an expert on Russia, expert on China, expert on all this.
	I said, what rate were you?
	What rate were you?
	By the way, here's one thing he doesn't want to tell people.
	He was a linguist.
	In the Navy, right?
	This guy was not some super, you know, James Bond spy or anything like that.
	And he was a guy who was kicked out of the skiff.
	He wasn't even allowed in the skiff by his own fellow chiefs.
	Go to soft rep those guys.
	Look, I don't mess with soft rep.
	Everybody knows those guys.
	Those are the pipe hitters, right?
	If they've got a problem with you, then they've got a big problem out there.
	So Nance, yeah, very cute.
	What really is going on with Joy Reid, though, is that she's completely lost the plot because so much of what people are seeing in terms of a realignment and this movement as you talk about the state of it, it is coming together along economic populist lines.
	Right, not class lines, not gender lines.
	It's back to where we were in 2016.
	It's the forgotten men and women, right Jack?
	Precisely.
	And here's the thing, guess who's in that working class of Trump supporters?
	People of all ethnicities.
	I know, exactly.
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	Okay.
	Okay.
	Mics are on.
	Who's the publisher, you said?
	Brave Books.
	And it's a kid's book.
	You should do one.
	A kid's book?
	No, so the whole series is, and you pick a title, Crenshaw's our next one, you pick a topic and then you come in on that topic.
	So we did one on, we'll talk about it, but you know, so mine's communism, then we had a gender one, we had a pro-life one, Crenshaw's doing cancel culture, but there's, I mean, there's Infinite topics that you can pick from.
	And what's your family background?
	When did they come from Poland?
	1912.
	So family came 1912, we're South, so we were the part, actually we were Austro-Hungarian Empire, not Germany or Russia, and then so they came over 1912, at least my branch did, the other branch came over, stayed, you know, and essentially were involved, of course, in the war and the occupation, etc, etc.
	And they came to Pennsylvania?
	Philadelphia area, yes.
	Actually, Real cool story.
	My dad, my dad's parents, the way they met, his father was serving under Patton.
	And he was a single guy when he went in.
	He was in his 20s.
	So he's serving Patton, North Africa.
	And they had this program for single soldiers that you could meet up with other like nursing students and college girls.
	Yeah.
	And so they paired him up with this girl who was in nursing school up in New York State, who was also Polish.
	Right.
	And then so they're doing letters back and forth.
	You know, it starts off nice and they get better.
	And then after the war, he comes home and she says, you know, I'm going to hop on a train and meet that guy.
	So they hadn't met.
	They were like pen pals.
	They were pen pals.
	We still have the letters.
	That's very cool.
	And the letters, they're not, you know, because they were just meetings.
	They're not like, oh, I can't miss you when this war is over.
	No, it's nothing like that.
	But it's just a cool story.
	And it's funny enough, though, her, where she's from in Poland is really only about 30 minutes from where his family's from in Poland.
	And then my wife, and you've met my wife, she's Belarusian, so she's born in the Soviet Union, and then her, she's from the Brest area, so Brest, of course, is probably only about an hour and a half from where we are, because it used to be East Poland, and now it's, you know, India.
	So how did you meet?
	We actually met at a Bible study.
	Of all things.
	We had a Bible study here in, uh, here in town.
	So she was Catholic?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	So she, well, I should, correction, she was Orthodox, but she was coming to it anyway because she had, like, a mutual friend.
	So we're mending the schism.
	My wife converted as well.
	I said, we got the friends reunion, but that's the reunion we want.
	Right?
	Oh yeah.
	Time to fix that.
	It's time.
	It's like, look, we both believe that Mary is the mother of God, right?
	It's so much, it's political.
	What it really was was political when the Roman Empire was breaking up to the East and West and the church kind of split as well.
	Well, and we still believe in sacraments.
	That's the key thing, is sacraments.
	Exactly.
	The one thing, though, that I will say about the Orthodox, that they get better, a little bit better than the Western Christianity, is they still keep the mysticism.
	Yes.
	The spirituality, the incense.
	Well, and standing up for three hours also helps.
	Seriously.
	The first time we went through a service with her, I was like, where are the chairs?
	She's like, well, that's for, you know, like, like an elderly.
	Old ladies.
	Old ladies.
	Pregnant women.
	But we actually got, um, here, I'll show you a picture.
	I have it handy.
	We got our engagement photos done over there.
	My father-in-law is coming back, actually, from Belarus tomorrow.
	Breast Fortress.
	Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
	Where Operation Barbarossa was launched.
	That's amazing.
	So the blast marks you see on that cast iron was done by Nazi artillery.
	Alright, 15 seconds standby.
	Standing by. Standing by.
	On the side of the U.S. Constitution, America first.
	Bottom line, get your kids vaccinated, or you're going to have to be with them all day, all day long.
	You're going to have to homeschool.
	And if you're not bright enough to understand that vaccines are safe, I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're not bright enough to teach them geometry either.
	So, it's something to think about.
	Jimmy Kimmel winning Friends and doing what he thinks is comedy, calling half of America stupid.
	I mean, you know, 70 million adults don't want to get vaccinated and you might have to educate your kids at home, but you're too dumb to do that, so get vaccinated.
	What a winner, what a winner.
	That's a beautiful segue to our guest's latest project.
	It's a kid's book.
	I never thought I'd hear Jack Posobiec write a kid's book, but it's very exciting.
	It's called There's No Such Thing As Free Ice Cream.
	Tell us about it, Jack.
	Yeah, so when you go into a Barnes & Noble or Books A Million right now, usually there's always that, the first thing you see is this table, and they all have the table.
	You know exactly what I'm saying.
	It's got all the kids' books on it, and every last name of the authors is either a Clinton, an Obama, a Harris, or now a Biden, right?
	And so we kept seeing this, and they're all about these hard-charged political and social issues, and they're directed towards children.
	The other side has been waging this war for years, and conservatives for a very long time have said, oh, they'll get over it.
	Oh, they'll get over it when they get to college.
	Oh, they'll get over it when they, you know, when they get to the real world.
	When they pay taxes.
	When they pay taxes, right.
	Well, here's the problem is the campus crazy has turned into the corporate crazy, has turned into the Pentagon crazy, has turned to academia crazy.
	It's everywhere, right?
	It's everywhere.
	So you've got to go back.
	And so we're going to fight back.
	So Brave Books reached out to me.
	They're out of Houston, Texas.
	And they said, we're putting together this this series, and it's going to be a shared universe, lots of action, cool characters, not preachy, but be able to present a lot of these issues and talk about these values.
	From a conservative standpoint.
	And they said, I said, what are you doing?
	They said, we've got one on gender studies.
	What's that called?
	They said, that's called Elephants Aren't Birds.
	That's good.
	That's actually pretty good.
	They have the best title.
	Are these books or these picture books?
	These are picture books.
	And then you have one because it's little kids.
	And then you have one for pro-life.
	It's called Little Lives Matter.
	Right.
	Of course.
	And then for mine they said, I don't know what to write, what am I going to write?
	They said, what's something you don't like?
	And I said, communism.
	I got my wife from the Soviet Union, my family's Polish, of course, communism is the first thing that comes to mind.
	And they said, we'd love to write a book about communism, but how are we going to talk about communism to kids?
	And I said, well, take the famous Friedman line and just twist it.
	So I said, there's no such thing as free ice cream.
	And so it's bravebooks.us is the website.
	And Dan Crenshaw is actually going to be doing the next book in the series.
	And his is all going to be on cancel culture.
	And what it really is, is actually a subscription that people can get.
	So, you know, 12 a year, you get one a month.
	We're working with Christian groups, we're working with homeschool groups.
	Back home at my parish, we're Catholic, so they do the homeschool pods.
	You know, that's something that's really taken off in the wake of this.
	Because people are looking at these, you know, they're looking at the Zoom classrooms and saying, excuse me, you're teaching my children what exactly?
	And so people are checking out and they're looking for ways to incorporate different books into their curriculum and so we're looking at finding states that will actually accept brave books and this as part of this for a variety of these issues because the book itself actually gets into economics because the main character is sort of he sells ice cream at the market in this this uh this town that he's in he's a fox named Asher and then these wolves show up and they say oh don't buy your ice cream from this guy.
	We got ice cream for free.
	Just come, you know, come to our island and everything's free and everything's great.
	And he said, I don't know if we should trust these wolves, guys.
	And of course, they go to the island and then the island.
	I don't want to give the whole thing away.
	But, you know, it's it's surrounded by, you know, a huge barbed wire fence and it's like a Berlin Wall.
	And so it's sort of Cuba and East Germany combined.
	And there is free ice cream, but turns out only the wolves are able to get the free ice cream.
	Everyone else gets this kind of gruel.
	And if you ask about, well, can we set up a market and sell some ice cream?
	You actually get punished by catapult from the island of free ice cream.
	So it's again, it's not preachy.
	It's a good story.
	There's action.
	They have to escape the island.
	So that becomes sort of the way to get through the story.
	And it's a really cool way to start actually having these conversations Now, my oldest is three.
	You've met my son.
	He is three now, so he's not quite old enough to pick up on the whole story, but he has picked up on the idea that wolves are not to be trusted.
	The book is There's No Such Thing As Free Ice Cream from Brave Books.
	So I look at our side, I look at the Patriots, MAGA, America First, Jack, and I see a couple of sucking chest wounds, the biggest weaknesses.
	Number one, if we win in 2024, who's the bench that's going to go back into the White House instead of, you know, traitorous seditionists like Vindman and John Kelly?
	Secondly, just the gross lack of courage in the last year and a half when we look at Covid, people just kneeling at the altar of Fauci.
	And then lastly, and this goes to your current project, why are we so weak when it comes to creating the cultural artefacts?
	Are we just too busy?
	What's the excuse for conservatives saying, oh yeah, we don't care about books, movies and everything else?
	Yeah, I think it's something where conservatives, you know, and I'm looking at your hallway here, and you've got some of the late conservative great films.
	James Bond used to fight communists.
	Rambo used to fight communists.
	You have these wonderful, and there's some machismo combined to it, and yet Hollywood, of course, has turned that all off.
	That's all gone.
	Anything masculine is parodied or made fun of.
	You know, the dad or the boyfriend is always the butt of every joke.
	And conservatives, I think, have always sort of eschewed culture.
	We used to make fun of Barack Obama for going on the nightly shows.
	He just played Jimmy Kimmel.
	I'll put it this way.
	There's a reason Norm Macdonald was never given a late show, right, for comedy.
	Because he was a conservative, even though he doesn't identify one.
	You could tell from his humor that he was more on the conservative side.
	And that he was also willing to call out people in power, willing to call out BS, willing to kind of burst these bubbles on many of these sacred cows, whether it be First Lady Hillary Clinton, whether it be O.J.
	Simpson or any other of these woke narratives.
	So when it comes down to it, we completely as conservatives ceded that space and we kept saying, oh, it doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	Well, guess what?
	That's a huge reason of why you have this bifurcated really culture now in America where it does seem like we're drafting into blue America and red America.
	And, you know, I know there's a lot of people who talk now about this idea of a national divorce.
	I don't see it.
	I honestly just don't.
	I didn't know where you stood on that, but I actually don't think it's going to happen.
	There's no slavery issue.
	There's no issue of the magnitude that where people have a very, you know, dividing line.
	You're pro or you're not.
	We don't have that.
	So I don't buy the reality of it.
	So what does that mean in practice?
	It means you have to get into the ring.
	Right.
	You have to get into the ring.
	Yes.
	If you've seeded the fight, they are going to win every time.
	You don't show up like, that's a forfeit, right?
	You know, this is, it's MMA, it's UFC, whatever it is, WWF.
	You have to get into the ring and they have their set of ideas.
	And they are saying, we're going to give you free ice cream and free education and free housing and everything else.
	And you're going to own nothing.
	And you're going to love it because you've got your cheap A giant flat-screen Chinese television set, and everything's coming to you from Jeff Bezos and Uber and, you know, the gig workers who just deliver it to your house.
	You don't even have to talk to them.
	And you can have anything you want at your heart's desire.
	Conservatives need to step up and say, you know what?
	We want our language, our culture, and our faith back.
	Because we can offer you something they don't.
	All they offer in the end is nihilism.
	We can offer something that's transcendent and actually real.
	And that's what this is about.
	I'd add one last thing.
	Language, culture, faith, and our nation.
	We want it back.
	The book is There's No Such Thing As Free Ice Cream.
	Follow this man.
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	Alright guys!
	I'm going to take my life in my hands.
	We usually go through all the cuts beforehand.
	Some of them I don't get to, and I'm going to do it right now.
	Mr. G has got Don Lemon, Don Lemon of CNN, with a cut that is described as, I don't know, something confusing about a shoe can be replaced, but democracy can't.
	I have no idea what it means, but I'm curious.
	Cut 13.
	Play cut.
	There are many people who agree with the judge who conflates the two.
	They don't see the difference between riots where someone is breaking into a shoe store and looting, and a riot where you have people entering the Capitol while Congress is in session certifying an election.
	One, a shoe can be replaced.
	And the vote is the value of a shoe.
	Again, no one should be doing that.
	No one should be stealing anything from anyone.
	The other one, can you replace a democracy?
	How do you fix a broken democracy?
	He truly... I mean, I'm not... Is he as dumb as Freda?
	Is he dumber than... You cannot replace a democracy?
	Why not?
	I'm curious.
	Why can't you replace it?
	Didn't we replace an empire with a democracy here in America?
	You really are stupid.
	And Eshoo?
	Eshoo!
	The insurance companies estimated the cost to America of the BLM Antifa riots is between two and three billion dollars.
	Not to mention, here's a value I'd like to hear you give a number to.
	The almost four dozen Americans murdered during the BLM and Antifa riots.
	Half of whom, Don Lemon, were black Americans.
	Like Police Captain David Dorn, murdered on camera, who bled out on camera.
	Can you replace David Dorn, Don Lemon, or doesn't he matter?
	Okay.
	Let's go to your calls.
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	Matt, North Carolina.
	Matt, welcome to America First.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you, Commander of Conservative Radio.
	Thank you, buddy.
	I wanted to comment on your great discussion, conversation with Colonel Kirk Schlichter last night.
	Yeah, he's always a good value, isn't he, Colonel Kaye?
	Yes.
	What you said Desiccated, senile, old freak about Biden.
	He said, don't you mean pervert?
	And you said, I think freak covers it.
	I was sitting there by myself in my room, sort of laughing.
	Hang on, I've got to write that down again, because I forgot that.
	Desiccated, what was it, old freak?
	Yes, I took a note for you, sir.
	Desiccated, senile, old freak.
	Oh yeah, I forgot senile.
	And then he said pervert, and then I said freak.
	Because, well, don't you agree, Matt, that freak kind of encompasses perversion as well?
	I certainly do, and I was laughing so loud by myself, I thought I shouldn't be laughing by myself, but I wasn't by myself.
	I had you and Colonel Slickter on the radio.
	You know, every single day we struggle here for, we want to give you the very best.
	We want to give you things you can wear, you can put in your yard.
	We're going to do yard signs at SebGorgenStore.com.
	That was the decision today.
	We're always waiting for that cutting-edge thing.
	The last thing was, of course, the My Body, My Choice t-shirts.
	But I think you've encouraged me, Matt.
	I think we're going to have to have a product that has to do with desiccated senile old freak.
	It might be a t-shirt.
	It might be a yard sign.
	I didn't vote for the desiccated senile old freak, but you have.
	I'm old, but I'm not a freak, Dr. Glorka.
	I'm old, but I'm not a freak.
	That's a good way of putting it.
	OK, let's squeeze in one more call.
	J.R.
	Nashville, welcome to America First.
	Hey Dr. G, it's a simple answer on the price you put on the dead Americans during the riots.
	Zero.
	Zero.
	Oh, you mean for the Democrats, the people like Don Lamond?
	Correct.
	That is disgusting.
	I can't listen to that man because it's I don't know who does, but they've got to be sick in the head.
	Yeah, well, it's not many.
	They've lost 40% of their audience since the inauguration, which is weird because you'd think if your guy was in the White House, then maybe your channel should do better.
	But CNN has lost 40% of their viewership.
	And if you look at their best shows, their best shows get maybe, J.R., maybe half a million viewers.
	We on this humble radio show have 3 million listeners right now, not to mention everything else, the podcast, the videos.
	God bless you, JR.
	Yes, indeed.
	We're going to have to have some products to get that phrase out there.
	Desiccated senile old freak.
	It might have to be a yes.
	How about this one?
	I didn't vote for the desiccated senile old freak.
	That might be a winner.
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	It's incredible
	Just over a month ago, feels like months ago, we watched for days the appalling footage of America surrendering in Afghanistan of hundreds of thousands of people trying to escape, clinging to planes, clinging so desperately that they actually fell to their deaths from some of our military transports.
	And then of course, the double suicide attack that took 13 brave Americans, mostly Marines.
	I want to keep that memory alive.
	I want us to talk about that event, not to file it away, not to forget about it.
	But to discuss it in terms of what it means for the state of America today and also the state of our armed forces under a new leadership that doesn't understand what it is doing.
	To that end, I am honoured to be joined today by somebody who came on my Newsmax show, the Gawker Reality Check, a few weeks ago.
	He is the father of the eldest individual killed in Kabul, Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover of the Marine Corps.
	Darren Hoover, welcome to America First.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you for having me.
	I don't want to do a standard interview here.
	I just want to have you talk about who your son was, what motivated him to join the Corps, And then let's just zoom out and talk about the last few weeks and your reaction to what you're seeing come out of this administration, which is supposed to be in charge of our military.
	So first, would you say a little bit about your son, Taylor Hoover?
	Give us some color.
	Give us some understanding of who your son was.
	My son was a consummate gentleman from a very young age, and his mom had to remind me of this when he was playing with those Uh, little toy soldiers.
	You didn't call them soldiers.
	You called them Marines.
	And I had forgotten that.
	Um, but Taylor was, Taylor had a heart of gold.
	Um, he always stood up for the, for the little guy.
	If he saw somebody being bullied or whatever, um, during school or after school, he would step in the middle of it and he'd stop it.
	Um, He, uh, he helped out around the house quite a bit with me working all the hours that I did.
	Um, he basically became our little man child, um, with his sisters and helping out his mom.
	Um, and he grew into quite the young man, as you can well imagine.
	Um, September 11th came along 2001.
	He was 11 years old and.
	Right then and there he decided that he was going to serve.
	He didn't know how, but that he was going to serve.
	So the age of 11, 9-11 occurs, and that's when your son makes the decision that sometime in the future he's going to serve our nation in uniform.
	And then how did he choose upon the Marine Corps?
	The recruiters were coming to his high school.
	And like I said, from his young age, those little toy plastic soldiers were never ever soldiers.
	They were never GI's, they were Marines for your son Taylor.
	Right, right.
	Was there a Marine background history in the family, in the Hoover family?
	There's not actually.
	My dad is a Korean War vet from the army.
	And that's about as far as it goes.
	Okay, so he's 11 years old, 9-11 hits.
	He knows he's playing with his plastic GIs, but he calls the Marines.
	He ends up in the Marine Corps serving just, I look, closest to my heart.
	I spent two and a half years in Quantico myself teaching the Marines.
	He gave the ultimate measure.
	He sacrificed his life for his fellow man.
	Would you give us your reaction and please, you know, Say whatever's on your heart.
	When you hear words from the man in the White House who says from the podium in the White House, Mr. Hoover, that the decision to leave Kabul, to surrender Afghanistan, was the right decision, it was the best decision.
	Your reaction?
	You know, yes, we needed to get out of that conflict.
	There's no doubt that war has gone on long enough.
	However, The right decision, the right way?
	I'm sorry, but me and my pet monkey could have done a better job than that.
	You know, it begs the question to me, personally, why on earth this one thing?
	This one thing that they kept from the prior administration.
	They'd done away with everything else President Trump had done in his administration.
	Why this one thing?
	Why keep this one thing and make it the unmitigated disaster that it became?
	Why?
	At what cost?
	13 lives of our 18 more seriously injured that are still recovering and will still recover for the rest of their lives, plus the countless Afghan citizens that lost their lives that day.
	Was it worth it?
	They're trying to get their freedom.
	Our sons and daughters are trying to assist them in doing that, only to have our government walk away and leave them, and have my son and his fellow Marines, that Navy Corpsman, and the Staff Sergeant from the Army, killed doing what they love, which is defending this country.
	From all enemies, foreign and domestic.
	Yes, they were foreign.
	But they wanted out of that hellhole so bad.
	And our sons and daughters were trying to help them get out.
	Dear friends, the Marines who served with and knew Taylor Hoover, Staff Sergeant in the Marine Corps, have set up a GoFundMe page.
	It's at the bottom of our video right now, the full URL.
	If you're listening on radio across the nation, just go to GoFundMe.com and look for the Memorial Fund U.S.
	Marine Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover.
	God bless you, Mr. Hoover.
	We want to keep their names alive.
	We want to memorialize their sacrifice to this nation.
	Semper Fidelis.
	I am Sebastian Gorka.
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	It's always a tad delicate when you're interviewing somebody who, well, not only has no media experience, hasn't done a lot of media, maybe nervous about doing a radio show or TV show.
	I think he was when he came on my Newsmax show last week.
	But also somebody who's here to talk about the death of a loved one.
	So, He didn't get to say everything he wanted to say, but I want to share with you what he told me, with his permission, in the break.
	That is, of course, Darren Hoover, the father of Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover, one of the Marines murdered in that double bomb blast in Kabul.
	I asked him afterwards, because I was just curious, you know, I love the Corps, and I said, so how's the Corps been, how's the Pentagon been in terms of reaching out and supporting you and the families of those who were murdered?
	And he said the following.
	First, I expected.
	Second, I also sadly expected.
	He said, the Corps have been wonderful.
	The Marine Corps have been incredible in reaching out and helping.
	But then he said this.
	You've got to remember, we are, what, six weeks?
	Five?
	Five and a half weeks since the bombing that took those 13 American warfighters, Marines, corpsmen, and that Green Beret Mr Hoover said, the White House hasn't called us once.
	Nothing.
	Not an email.
	Nothing.
	Not a letter.
	You don't need a conspiracy.
	You don't need some master plan.
	All you need is for this country to elect, quote unquote elect, apologies, A group of people who hate this country to run it.
	Because if you hate this country, you're going to hate everything it stands for.
	You're going to hate those who fight for America and who die for America.
	How long would it take for that senile old man just to put his paw print on 13 letters to the families of those killed?
	It's despicable.
	It's an outrage.
	It's a very simple divide.
	This country is separated by those that love America and those that hate America.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Trump.
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	Hey, It's always a delight to talk to one of my fellow hosts, Radio Warriors, and today is no exception.
	One-on-one with a good friend, a man who has done so much to revivify the Judeo-Christian civilization, Eric Metaxas.
	Welcome to America First One-on-One.
	Just being introduced by you.
	I'm already thrilled.
	How can we possibly do better than your wonderful... We will!
	We will!
	We will do better for the next hour.
	We will have lots of fun with you.
	We're here to discuss this amazing book.
	I literally got it in my hands this morning.
	Very, very, very enticing title.
	Very simple description or design.
	Is Atheism Dead?
	Look at that!
	Snap!
	Snap!
	By Eric Metaxas, hot off the presses, literally warm to the touch.
	Before we discuss that, before we discuss everything else that's going on in the insane situation we find ourselves in, for those who were hiding in a cave for the last 20 years, would you explain who is Eric Metaxas?
	You want me to take a crack at that?
	I would like, yes, I would like you to take a shot at it.
	I'll puncture it eventually.
	But where do you hail from?
	What is your family background?
	I don't know how to describe you, so I need some help.
	Who is Eric Metaxas?
	Well, part of the reason people don't know how to describe me has to do with the fact that I'm dramatically eclectic.
	You could say scattered.
	The way I would put it, Sebastian, is that I have written Many, many books.
	So, some people think of me principally as an author.
	Some people think of me as the author of Bonhoeffer.
	Other people think of me as a guy who cracks jokes.
	Many people more recently have seen me on Salem, on the Salem Radio Network, on the TBN program.
	So, the way I would put it, I'm an author, a multiple New York Times best-selling author, and a Radio and TV personality.
	I've just summed it up beautifully.
	All right, let's go a little bit deeper.
	Tell us about your family background.
	This weird name of taxes.
	Are you into taxing people?
	I don't know.
	Let's find out what the family background is and what is your educational background?
	Well, I went to Yale University.
	I should I should put it this way.
	The whole story is in my book, which just came out earlier this year, which is called Fish Out of Water.
	In that book, I tell the story of growing up.
	My father came from Greece.
	My mother came from Germany.
	When I say Germany, I mean East Germany.
	She escaped from East Germany.
	So both of my parents, so I have this in common with you to some extent, both of my parents tasted the wickedness of communism.
	They raised me as European immigrants in America, working class European immigrants.
	To love America and to know that communism is evil and why it is evil.
	They met in an English class right here in Manhattan.
	I live in Manhattan with my wife and daughter.
	They met in an English class in 1956.
	I was born in 63.
	I might look young, but I'm not.
	And that formed me, Sebastian, because when your parents have tasted communism, as you understand, You have a very different perspective of America.
	You appreciate it in a way that you couldn't possibly if you grew up here.
	So, my theory is that that's at the heart of who I am.
	Now, when I went to Yale University, and you know this part of my story, I was an English major.
	I wasn't sure what I believed, and I drifted away from my Christian faith and from my more conservative traditional upbringing, and I drifted and floated.
	This is where it gets sad, but then it gets happy.
	I was really miserable.
	I wanted to be a writer.
	I knew I wanted to be a writer, and I could not, for the life of me, figure out how to go about this.
	Having parents who are working-class European immigrants doesn't really prepare you for the life of literature.
	And I floundered around, and eventually, God, in his mercy, led me back to live with my parents in Danbury, Connecticut, which is a nightmare.
	But in the midst of that nightmare, living with your parents who are wondering why you're here.
	What's the nightmare?
	The Danbury, Connecticut or the living with your parents?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I love Danbury.
	I just think that when you have parents who have worked their fingers to the bone to put you through college, Yale University, who themselves didn't have the opportunity to grow up with a father, to grow up with the possibility of college.
	To have their 24-year-old Yale graduate son show up at the door and say, �Hey, I'm lost.
	Can I stay with you?� It was very disheartening.
	Of course, they showed me tough love, which meant I got a job, even though it was a menial, horrible job.
	Union Carbide in Danbury, Connecticut as a proofreader.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I think more Yale graduates should have those first jobs working at Union Carbide.
	That sounds like a reality check for me.
	I think that's a genius move.
	Sorry, Eric.
	No, but it was.
	That's the beauty of it, is that in this misery, I was forced to think about the ultimate things.
	And I had the great privilege and honor of meeting a man.
	His name's Ed Tuttle.
	We're dear friends to this day.
	Who began to talk to me about God and the Bible.
	And I had been trained at Yale to avoid these people like the plague.
	But I was in enough pain that I was willing to listen a little bit.
	And over the course of this humbling year living with my parents, God was able to get a hold of me and eventually, in a story I've told many times and I tell it in my previous book, Fish Out of Water, I had an absolutely miraculous experience where God spoke to me in a dream.
	I mean, there's no way to put it except that it changed my life overnight.
	Jesus came into my life and the rest is good news.
	People need to read your story, fish out of water.
	People need to read at least a couple of your, I don't know what is it, dozens of books that you've published, but let's give them a little tease.
	What was that message you received?
	What did the Lord want you to know?
	What was that clarity that you obtained when you were back with your parents in Danbury, Eric?
	It was right around my 25th birthday.
	My uncle, Taki, my father's older brother, had just passed away and somehow that and a number of other things converged to make me slightly open to God.
	And into that slight openness, God came in in a dream.
	All I can tell you is that He took disparate parts of my life And wove them into this kind of fairy tale that involved ice fishing and a golden fish.
	And the symbolism of what happened, which I wouldn't explain here, but I explain it on my website.
	If you go to ericmetaxas.com, there's a little video where I kind of give this story.
	And it's, of course, in my miracles book.
	But it was so gloriously constructed that I knew in the dream there is zero chance That this is anything but God speaking to me.
	It was just this divine confection.
	It just was designed like a laser.
	It just did its job, blew my mind.
	I knew instantly it was God speaking to me.
	That he was basically saying, I am real and Jesus is what you're looking for.
	And what How did that instantly change your life?
	What is the next thing that you did because of that, that you wouldn't have done if the Lord hadn't spoken to you?
	That's easy.
	I stopped sleeping with my fiancé of three years.
	Wow.
	I knew, it's the funniest thing, I knew immediately he's real, he's come to live inside me, and I desire To be holy, to be separated from him, not to do anything that could impinge on the greatest thing I've ever experienced, which is this relationship.
	I mean, it was a visceral thing, very hard to explain 33 years after, but I'll never forget how palpable it was that I just didn't want to do anything that could even slightly step on this beautiful gift I'd been given.
	And we're here to discuss your new book, Is Atheism Dead?
	But the details of that are in the previous book, Fish Out of Water, correct?
	Fish Out of Water tells the whole story, and most of it is funny.
	I mean, most of it is the story of growing up with a Greek dad and a German mother and how insane that is, even unto this day.
	I mean, the lack of communication between them and me having to sort of translate.
	A lot of it is funny.
	If you have an immigrant experience, a lot of it will resonate with you.
	And then the idea of a working-class kid going to a place like Yale and how bizarre that was.
	But it ultimately culminates in this utterly life-changing thing.
	I've never been the same since.
	I've wanted to glorify God with my gifts of speaking and writing and that's my life.
	He is the host of the Eric Metaxas show and the host of an incredible series of, not debates, but public intellectual occurrences called Socrates in the City.
	I've never seen anybody introduce people for debate as amusingly as Eric does.
	Follow him at Eric Metaxas and ericmetaxas.com.
	The book that we will discuss momentarily just out is Is Atheism Dead?
	First things first, Eric is a truth teller extraordinaire.
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	Okay, we're back.
	It's Eric Metaxas' book, Is Atheism Dead?
	First things first, I'm gonna go through a couple of big questions, but Eric, are you nuts?
	Are you absolutely crazy?
	Is atheism dead?
	Open the flipping window!
	The crazies are running rampant!
	BLM, Antifa, radicalized, DNC.
	Why'd you even choose this topic for your latest book, Eric?
	I will tell you why I chose the title.
	In 1966, At what I consider the high watermark of the secularist argument.
	Time Magazine came out with a famous, infamous cover article.
	It said, is God dead?
	The clear implication being, probably yes.
	All the cognoscenti, all the intellectuals know that science is pushing God and religion out and we as human beings are coming into the adulthood.
	of our species.
	We're no longer children who believe in sky fairies.
	And that narrative really caught hold about that time in a way that it never had before.
	The reason I've written a book with the title is Atheism Dead is because since 1966, very ironically, information and evidence has been coming in for God's existence.
	Very ironically, much of it is coming from the world of science.
	Yes.
	It has been piling up and up and up quietly, like the snow piling up.
	You go to sleep and you wake up and the drifts are covering the windows.
	No one has reckoned with it.
	People have continued along sleepwalking with this secular narrative from 1966.
	God's probably dead.
	We don't have any use for him.
	The reality is that the science, whether you're talking about the fine-tuned argument, which we can touch on, or other things from science, is so overwhelming that even I, as a devout believer, find it almost frightening and astonishing.
	None of us who grew up in the 20th century would dream that science could be so It's a stunning thing, and no one has been talking about it.
	a creator of the universe, of human beings, of life, of the planet Earth.
	It's a stunning thing, and no one has been talking about it.
	When I looked into it, I said, let's be honest, the evidence is so overwhelming that atheism is no longer tenable intellectually.
	If you want to say you're an agnostic, that's fine.
	Atheism, I don't think anyone can claim that anymore.
	Let's stop here for a second, Eric.
	Here's my issue, and I've believed this for years, if not decades.
	It's my contention that for anybody Over the age of, I don't know, six, anybody who has a triple digit IQ, to believe there is not a creator requires a level of imbecility.
	I mean, you have to be such an incredible moron to not believe in God.
	It beggars belief.
	And you're absolutely right.
	The last couple of decades have seen a monument, I mean, whether it's the creation of life, Whether it's the Goldilocks zone for how life came to be on this planet.
	But the amount of empirical data is overwhelming.
	It is like that snowdrift you mentioned.
	But just picking up a strawberry, Eric.
	Or just looking at a blade of grass.
	an understanding photosynthesis you say hang on i'm supposed to believe this is an accident and and sludge you know there is this this this um analogy that it's like walking on a beach and finding a a wristwatch and saying oh yes that wristwatch was uncreated in the ride in accident
	No, to not believe in God is walking down the beach and seeing the space shuttle on the beach and saying, ah, that was just created by accident because ceramic tiles and rubber wheels came together.
	Eric, I think you have to be an idiot not to believe in God.
	Well, I'm sorry to agree with you.
	You're quite right.
	How is atheism still so prevalent from the 1960s?
	That's sort of what I deal with in the book.
	The thesis of the book is that at this point, to declare there is no God is utter willfulness or ignorance or a combination of those two.
	If you say I have questions, you say I'm an agnostic, you say I was horribly abused by people claiming to be devout Christians, we can have a conversation.
	But at this point, given what I deal with in the book, and it's not just the science, the science is one of three things, it seems intellectually untenable.
	And so I want to put this out there so that if somebody says, I'm an atheist, people can say, I think you might want to rephrase that.
	Maybe you mean agnostic.
	Right, meaning that you're not certain, but you can't deny the existence of God.
	The book is Is Atheism Dead?
	It is hot off the presses from my buddy Eric Metaxas.
	He is at Eric Metaxas.
	Okay, let's talk about the next generation.
	Are you seeing, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, but if we take just one issue with regards to creation, and that's that we're made in the image of our creator, I see some very exciting signs in the under 30s in terms of their attitude to abortion, to life.
	Is this part and parcel of this realization that we're not an accident, Eric?
	Yes, I think that's true and I also think there are a lot of things converging which results in what I say in the book, Is Atheism Dead?, is that we're undergoing a paradigm shift.
	For most of our lives, yours and mine, we've been operating with this secular narrative that if you talk about God, people, the intellectuals sneer at you.
	I think this is changing because the evidence from science, there is There's shocking evidence from the world of archaeology, which I'll talk about in a moment, and then there's evidence that we have from atheism.
	We can now look, and certainly you and I know this, let's look at the record of those nations in the world that have said there is no God.
	How have they treated their people?
	How have things gone for those nations?
	Do you want to live in a place like North Korea?
	Maybe you want to live In China, where would you like to live where they tell you there's no God?
	Romania in the 1980s?
	The record is simply clear.
	There's just nothing much to say except that the evidence is dramatic.
	Actually, there's something I write about in the book.
	I don't want to forget to mention this.
	And this is going to be news.
	I don't think I've said it anywhere except on this program since I'm just starting to promote the book.
	And by the way, I hope people will pre-order it.
	Anywhere.
	They can go to my website, EricMetaxas.com.
	Having been canceled from YouTube, I am shameless about saying, please go to EricMetaxas.com.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	Please sign up for my newsletter.
	You were canceled as well?
	I've been canceled twice.
	You were canceled from YouTube as well?
	I was canceled.
	The entire program, my show, The Eric Metaxas Show, we had 220,000 subscribers, was completely wiped out.
	It's got to be now four or five months from YouTube because I had the Uh, to Marity to interview a liberal feminist named Naomi Wolf.
	She was a classmate of mine at Yale.
	Hang on, you got cancelled because of Naomi Wolf?
	Ultimately.
	That was, they went back two months to find her objectionable comments and said, strike three, we'll never talk to you again.
	Anyway, the only reason I say this is because I'm less shy about promoting my book and saying to people, please pre-order Is Atheism Dead?
	Because if you don't do it, We know that I'm being shadow banned on Facebook.
	I need help.
	We'll talk about that.
	So what was the point you were about to make, Eric?
	The point I was just going to make is that I don't think anyone knows.
	I mean, no one.
	And I give details in the book.
	The two, maybe the most famous atheists of the 20th century, Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus, they were Intellectually honest French existentialists trying to make a way forward in a world without God, trying to think how can we, who know there is no God, we're alone in the universe, how can we create a system of ethics?
	Both of them, at the end of their lives, and this is the news that no one knows, in 1960 for Camus and in 1980 for Sartre, both of them came to faith in God.
	Even in the Christian God.
	And no one knows this, and when I discovered this I said, I'm gonna put this in the book, it's gonna blow people's minds.
	The two people who looked atheism squarely in the eye, not like Hitchens and Dawkins, who basically pretend to look into it, but they're extremely shallow, those two men came to faith.
	That is a headline.
	Yeah, it's analogous for me to the woman who was the anonymized pregnant lady in Roe v. Wade who became an anti-abortionist years later.
	And also, this is from the Hosea Initiative, the biggest abortion clinic person who ran them and who propagated the ideology that it's just tissues.
	He came to God before he died as well.
	This is another reason to read Is Atheism Dead?
	Okay, talk to us about archaeology.
	Talk to us about two misbehaving boys.
	Let's have fun about, let's broaden the aperture, Eric.
	Yeah, well, there are three things in the book.
	The first stuff is all this stuff from science.
	And this stuff with James Tour in Houston is, again, newsmaking, newsbreaking.
	Nobody knows about it.
	And I got very excited about that.
	But the archaeology, the newsbreaker in there, I met a man in Albuquerque who purported to have discovered biblical Sodom.
	Now, when you hear that, you think, excuse me, Sodom?
	That's 1700 BC.
	That's Abraham, the patriarchs.
	That's the mists of prehistory.
	And you're saying you've discovered it?
	It sounds fanciful.
	I looked into it.
	The details are just deeply astonishing.
	But here's the key.
	He wrote a book in 2012 outlining every detail.
	And to this day, no one still knows about this.
	Until two weeks ago today, the scientific journal Nature, one of the premier academic journals in the world, published a very long, super analytic, peer-reviewed paper.
	The work of 21 scientists, none of whom, as far as I know, is any kind of a believer in the Bible, And they conclude in this extremely long article published two weeks ago today that exactly what destroyed this place that Dr. Stephen Collins says is biblical Sodom, which it is, is consonant with the description in Genesis.
	In other words, you have 21 secular scientists in one of the most prestigious journals, peer-reviewed journals, corroborating this information.
	So, today, in Newsweek magazine, Newsweek.com, I've written an article about it.
	But, the chapter in my book gives you, obviously, much more color.
	This is blockbuster stuff, my friend.
	What they have pulled out of the sands of the Middle East, over and over and over again, it proves the historicity of the Bible, And again, part of the reason I wrote the book is that the news kind of doesn't cover this.
	They might throw out dribs and drabs, but the welter of evidence from these various fields has become so overwhelming, it's time somebody says, time's up, let's vote, and the vote is overwhelming.
	I don't think anybody can be an atheist.
	Fabulous.
	Find out more.
	He's just teasing us right now.
	You can pre-order the book, Is Atheism Dead?
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	Okay, so, Eric, you have a very unusual position that really is connected to the issue I find so problematic Problematic for us.
	So number one, we can talk about that in a moment.
	The COVID calamity has proven to me that even America built on rugged individualism is suffering from a dearth of courage.
	The fact that basically everybody shut their businesses down except a handful of people and didn't say no to the fascists like Fauci is very, very disturbing.
	So number one, we have a vacuum of courage.
	Second, and I think you are the antithesis of this, you are the antidote, but one man is not enough.
	I look at the resources out there, and I look at what conservatives publish, what we produce in the mainstream media, in the culture, and there's such a dearth of understanding of why America is what it is.
	And why Judeo-Christian civilization is the greatest civilization on the planet.
	And, you know, with the odd exception of a course here at Hillsdale, a YouTube lecture by Victor Davis Hanson, it's as if the Western canon has just been memory-holed.
	It's just disappeared in some Orwellian pit.
	Why are there so few Eric Metaxi?
	I'm using the plural.
	That's a Latin plural, but I'll let it go.
	I gotta tell you, Sebastian, and you know this about me, I live and breathe what you have just said everywhere I go.
	I mean, I'm speaking all across the country virtually constantly, and I speak about this issue.
	I wrote a book a few years ago called If You Can Keep It, and in the writing of that book, It occurred to me that I myself didn't really understand the answer to the question you just asked.
	And so as I was discovering the answers, I just got so lit up, I said, I've got to tell the world.
	So I keep saying that book, which is called, If You Can Keep It, I would give it free to every American.
	It's easy to read.
	My easiest to read book, definitely the hardest to write of all of them.
	But it sums up Or even maybe just reminds us of something we sort of knew but forgot, that this experiment in ordered liberty called America is such an astonishing anomaly in history, is such a fragile, glorious thing, that not to treasure it, not to teach your kids about it, not to teach your kids to love it,
	Not to teach your kids to love the heroes who've made it possible, whether Washington or Lincoln or whoever, is utterly sinful.
	It's like somebody gives you health, you were dying, and you don't even bother to thank them.
	What we have in this nation is so rare, everyone in the world, people are literally risking their lives to come here, and you can't blame those people, right?
	So, if you know what America is, you love it.
	But if you're spoiled, and we all know this, if you're rich or spoiled in any way, it's very easy to take for granted what everybody else would die to have.
	That's the story of America since the 60s.
	And when I talk about the secularism in my book, Is Atheism Dead?, it's the same thing.
	What happened in the mainstream of the culture in the 60s, it had been there in academia among the intellectuals for, you know, almost 100 years.
	But it comes into the culture in the 60s and you get an entire smorgasbord of evil.
	It is whether disrespect for parents, disrespect for age, the deification of youth, the idea that God is dead, the idea that America is the enemy of the world rather than the hero that has saved people from all kinds of things.
	Everywhere you look, they're just a litany of bad ideas that creep into the culture.
	And there was enough goodness in America that nobody fought hard against this.
	We didn't fight hard enough.
	We let Hollywood in particular, and the teachers' unions, and certainly the universities, promulgate these odious, wrong-headed, ultimately Marxist notions, these ultimately atheistic notions.
	And over the decades, it had its effect.
	And the only reason we can be where we are, is because good people took their eye off the ball.
	We never dreamt things could get this bad.
	So between you and me, I believe what is happening right now, every waking nightmare that's a result of the fake Biden administration, is something that God is allowing as a last-ditch effort to wake up those who are still sleeping.
	Those of us who are awake by God's grace, we use our voice to wake people up.
	Because if we do not wake up to the treasure that we've been given and do everything we can to fight for it, it will go away Just as Germany disappeared after they allowed Hitler to take over, except the loss of America is dramatically worse than the loss of Germany.
	So Americans were too nice.
	That's why we have what we have today.
	Okay, so that takes me to my next question.
	What does that mean?
	If we were too nice, if we let the crazies, the radicals take over Hollywood, the media, the schools, the unions and the swamp, then it means no more Marquis of Queensbury rules.
	We have to be committed to the truth.
	We don't use malicious tactics.
	By the way, I have one word for you.
	You've got to follow one more person on Twitter because right now you're following 666 people.
	Okay, so just follow one more person.
	I do not like that number.
	Okay, so So it's no more Mr. Nice Guy, is it, Eric?
	I mean, we don't do immoral things, but it's no more Mr. Nice Guy, is it?
	You don't even need to go there, although I agree, but here's how I would put it.
	People act as though we've been boxing with the Marcus of Queensberry rules.
	I would argue that many people have sneered at the very idea of boxing.
	So even if we were boxing with the Marquis of Queensberry rules, we would win.
	But we have somehow deemed fighting for what is right and true and good, fighting for the downtrodden, we have deemed those things beneath us.
	Many Christians, Christians are the most guilty, let's just put it clearly.
	In my book Bonhoeffer, Bonhoeffer says, It's the role of the church to be the conscience of the state.
	The church in America, to a large extent, has over the decades internalized this idea that fighting is bad.
	I just have to love people.
	Well, let me just tell you something.
	If my kid is going to run out into the street and be killed by a truck, I am going to tackle that kid.
	I don't care if I break a bone.
	My love compels me to do anything to save that kid from death.
	In life we have to sometimes fight, we have to be dramatic, and the church in America Has believed the lie that I don't need to fight.
	They almost act as though David fighting Goliath is sort of unseemly.
	We wouldn't do that.
	And there has been a misrepresentation of our Lord and Savior.
	Jesus was not a pacifist.
	Just ask the money lenders and the money changers in the temple as to whether Jesus was a pacifist.
	The new book is Is the Atheism Dead?
	He mentioned his seminal work Bonhoeffer, Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, and Spy.
	His autobiographical piece is official.
	You've been a brave man, especially in the last two years.
	You've taken a stand publicly.
	You've paid a price for what you've said about President Trump, about the last election.
	to you, Eric.
	You have, you've been a brave man, especially in the last two years.
	You've taken a stand publicly.
	You've paid a price for what you've said about President Trump, about the last election.
	Was it worth it, Eric?
	And after you answer that question, what is your message to those who have lost hope in this, the greatest nation on God's earth?
	Well, first of all, if you take the idea of truth seriously, if you take God seriously, the thought of being so calculated about what you say, that you're worried about it, how is it going to affect my career?
	If you discern the times, we are in a war, a spiritual war, a war for the soul of freedom, the soul of the West.
	Unborn children, African-American children who are living in poverty, all of them depend on us.
	Are we willing to speak the truth?
	Are we willing to say, if my career suffers, I don't care because it is my honor and my duty to serve God by doing everything I can.
	The idea that somebody could be so calculated as some have been to, I'm going to be quiet.
	I don't want to bring up election fraud.
	I don't want to bring up the vaccine.
	My thought is that this is a free country.
	My thought is that this is a free country.
	If you do not exercise your freedom and speak freely, You are creating the evil society in which we are increasingly finding ourselves.
	We have a duty, particularly as Christians, but as Americans, to use our voices.
	And have I paid a price?
	There is zero question That I paid a price.
	I mean, I've been cancelled from YouTube.
	It's financially devastating.
	Many speaking engagements have dried up.
	There are all kinds of things I could talk about.
	Just trying to get attention to my new book.
	You know, I'm not getting on half the shows that would have invited me on before I came out of the closet as somebody who loves Donald Trump.
	But you know what, Sebastian?
	I can't even dream of having it any other way.
	I mean, if I were to get... People have died for doing the right thing.
	So the idea that we would say like, well, my career might get dented.
	I think to myself, what a, what an honor that God would allow me to be a voice for truth or freedom.
	So I, I so cherish, uh, the opportunity I have to speak my mind.
	I thank God for Salem, allowing me to do that.
	Um, and it gets to the larger question or the, or the second question, how do we have hope?
	I know.
	That when you do the right thing, even if you lose, you win.
	Yeah.
	When Bonhoeffer went to the gallows, people want to know about him and talk about him forever, because he did the right thing.
	He was the kind of a Christian who knew Jesus actually had defeated death.
	That wasn't a metaphor.
	And when you know that, and when you believe that, and if you don't believe that, you're not a Christian, let's be honest.
	Yeah.
	If you believe that, You have no fear.
	You don't fear death because you know you're not going to hell or to the grave.
	You're going into heaven.
	And as far as I can tell, heaven is the greatest place imaginable.
	So if you can walk in that kind of freedom, you're going to fight much harder.
	And I firmly believe, Sebastian, that God in his mercy is waking up Americans, waking up the church.
	We are fighting in a way We've never fought before because we've been lazy and spoiled and we thought we don't have to do much, just pull the lever and Trump will take care of it.
	Well, let me tell you, God wants every one of us to be in the fight, completely all in, speaking our minds, pushing back whenever we get the opportunity.
	I am very hopeful for America.
	You can mark it down.
	I believe Trump will be back in the whole office, conceivably before 2024.
	I believe the fraudulent election will be uncovered.
	It's a battle, battle, battle.
	But by God's grace, people are in this battle.
	The information comes out in dribs and drabs.
	You probably know in the London Times, a liberal Trump-hating columnist said it's clear the election was stolen.
	The evidence continues to come out.
	If we shut up, we're dead.
	If we keep speaking and keep praying, I simply don't have any doubt that all of these things will get a reckoning.
	I believe America's days really are yet to come.
	I don't think that's just a happy slogan.
	But in order for that to happen, we have to get serious.
	And actually, as a good author, tying it back to the book, I will say this.
	When you know how real God's existence is, when you read a book like this and you think, how have I lived without knowing that there's overwhelming, mind-numbing evidence for God and for the Bible's truth It arms you in a way that you say, why have I been shy about sharing the truth, about sharing my faith?
	By the way, God is the only hope any of us has.
	And when we labor and battle with Him, everything changes.
	Even when we suffer with Him, everything changes.
	So I'm really emboldened to get this book out because I feel that we need to be encouraged.
	We need to know what we believe isn't a nice idea, it's actually true.
	And when you know that it's true, you're going to live differently.
	And when we live differently, we're going to win the battle.
	I'm convinced of it.
	As I said before, please go to EricMetaxas.com, sign up for my newsletter.
	Since I've been knocked off of YouTube, that's the only way I can get you my interviews.
	But you can tell I take all this very seriously, and by God's grace, I'm a happy warrior.
	Well, let me just summarize it thusly.
	As the great man once said, you have two options with regards to who Jesus Christ is, because we know that he existed and he walked the earth.
	There's only two options.
	He said he's God.
	Either he was crazy or he was God.
	If you don't think he's crazy, there's only one answer left.
	And then lastly, with regards to our situation today as patriots and as believers, it's very easy.
	It's very simple.
	It's never wrong.
	It can never be wrong to do the right thing.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	The book is Is Atheism Dead?
	Order it right now by my friend Eric Metaxas.
	Follow him everywhere he is on each platform where he isn't cancelled.
	And for the time being, make sure everybody out there, my friends, keep your head on a swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up, never give in, and stay frosty.
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