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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing on the Durham subpoenas

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	These misguided bans will not actually prevent all abortions.
	They simply put safe and necessary abortion care out of reach for our most vulnerable, specifically our lowest-income sisters, our queer, trans, and non-binary siblings, black, Latinx, AAPI, immigrants, disabled, and indigenous folks.
	And none of this is happenstance.
	It is precise.
	Like the roots of the anti-abortion movement, these bans are rooted in patriarchy and white supremacy.
	Excuse me?
	Did your brain fall out of your ear?
	That's Ayanna Pressley.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm back in studio and it's good to be back.
	Flying across the nation to stop the rhinos was in Tulsa, Oklahoma, speaking to a crowd of more than a thousand American patriots.
	But it's great to be back.
	Not in the swamp, per se, but in front of the microphone.
	Thank you to Mark Davis, who stood in the gap yesterday.
	But we have to discuss what happened while I was away and what's happening today.
	Biden's in trouble.
	The Democrats are in trouble.
	The President is on Capitol Hill trying to save his Build Back Better three, four, five trillion dollar deal, which seems to have stalled.
	The struggle bus is in trouble.
	Happy Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything.
	Call me 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-33-GORKA.
	3, 3, 4, 6, 7, 5, 2.
	Second Amendment Friday.
	We're going to be joined by Liz Harrington, who works for President Trump.
	Marsha Blackburn, who just scalded, just utterly destroyed those woke military individuals on the Senate floor two days ago.
	Jim Carrafano, one of my favourite, favourite gun guys.
	Ian Harrison, the editor-in-chief of Recall Magazine.
	And...
	Perhaps the most exciting of all.
	A whole hour!
	With those warriors for freedom.
	Joe DeGeneva and Victoria Tunsing in studio.
	You do not want to miss a second.
	We are live streaming at Rumble.com slash Seb Gorka.
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	Never miss any of our interviews.
	That's Rumble.com slash S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A.
	It is the First Amendment anti-fascist alternative to YouTube.
	Okay, so that little clip there, let's start with we have some mind-bending, mind-altering video cuts for you when it comes to the congressional testimony about the Texas bills protecting the lives of the unborn that are making the Democrats go literally insane.
	But what you just heard there was the fight to stop abortions is rooted in white supremacy.
	We have witnessed more than 60 million children murdered in the womb since Roe v. Wade.
	Almost half of them are black.
	Now, just do a little bit of math there.
	Since the black population of America is less than 15%, And almost half of the more than 60 million children aborted, killed in the womb, are black, means that the abortion rates are white supremacy.
	Not just the figures alone.
	The massively disproportionate number of black children who are killed in the womb is that amazing post.
	I'd love to know who paid for it that went up in New York.
	The most dangerous place for a black child in New York is in her mother's womb.
	Devastating statement of truth.
	It's not just that.
	It is the positioning of Planned Parenthood clinics.
	Why is it, have you asked yourself, why is it that Planned Parenthood clinics are disproportionately located in high-density minority areas.
	Why?
	Could it be perchance because the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, in whose name awards are given out each year, One of which was received by Hillary Clinton.
	Yes, she's a proud Margaret Sanger award recipient.
	Could it have anything to do with the fact that she was a eugenicist?
	Don't take my word for it.
	Look at what she said about the enfeebled of mind.
	And those not fit to live or to breed, especially the poor black community.
	She was such a eugenicist, such a hateful, murderous bigot, that Hitler himself... This scene is one of the most chilling scenes.
	In our friend, my colleague, Dinesh D'Souza's Death of a Nation, where he re-enacted and read, had re-enactors read, the letter Adolf Hitler wrote to the leadership of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, because that is the full name of the Nazi party.
	Let me just, one more time, National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany, that he wrote them a letter instructing the leadership of the Nazi Party to congratulate Margaret Sanger on her clear thinking and her eugenicist stance.
	As my friend Dennis Prager says, whatever the left is accusing you of doing is the opposite of the truth and they are most likely doing it themselves.
	The real white supremacists are those killing 20, 30 million black babies in less than 50 years.
	But it's okay.
	It's okay.
	It's all about love, really.
	This is unbelievably Board-certified gynecologist Ghazaleh Moyadi testifying on Capitol Hill, Cut 7.
	Texas deserves better.
	I know firsthand that abortion saves lives.
	For the thousands of people I've cared for, abortion is a blessing.
	Abortion is an act of love.
	Abortion is freedom.
	Abortion saves lives.
	Not of the unique life in the womb that is destroyed, that is variously poisoned or chopped up in the womb and then removed limb by limb.
	Abortion is love?
	When a child is conceived, at that moment of conception, a unique genetic identity is created.
	That means a unique life is created through the miracle of God.
	Through the creation of us made in His image.
	At whichever stage that child, born or unborn, is killed, is terminated, is aborted, An innocent life is taken and there is no excuse.
	Rape, incest, one evil act can never justify another evil act.
	That life is the most innocent of all lives possible.
	The unborn, there is no human being more innocent than the unborn.
	And to say That the murder of that unique human life is love?
	Is freedom?
	That's how perverse they are.
	That is all the evidence you need, my friend.
	That we live in diabolical times.
	And we must stand up to the evil every single day.
	That's why I'm here and that's why you're listening.
	This is the Sanem Radio Network.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist and deputy to President Trump.
	Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, stay with us and don't touch that dial.
	Yeah, if you ever have an exceedingly slow day, if you ever have an exceedingly slow day, we can go day, we can go through that list No, you should print it out, and then we should have you read it on to the show.
	That'd be great.
	Eric?
	Yeah?
	No abortion can ever be justified.
	No abortion can ever be justified, copy that.
	And also for the Colonel, will you have a moment?
	For what?
	The Colonel.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hang on, let's do ins and outs first.
	Okay.
	Okay, I'll mute the mics.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	You don't lose until you're dead, or that line he had.
	Never, never, never, ever quit.
	Never, never, never, ever quit.
	Alright.
	Copy that.
	Two minutes.
	Rumble chat, did you miss Dr. G yesterday, guys?
	Yeah, I hope you did!
	Hope you did.
	I'll turn the mics off for this guest.
	Okay, mics off.
	Thank you.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Welcome back.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	Only one line left free on the call board, and I haven't even mentioned it yet.
	Sound off.
	Ask your questions.
	833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	First guest of the day.
	Delighted to have her with us.
	333-334-6752.
	First guest of the day.
	Delighted to have her with us.
	She is none other than Donald J. Trump.
	My old boss.
	President Trump's spokesperson.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey!
	Thanks for having me.
	Alright, follow this lady right now at RealLizUSA.
	What a great moniker on Twitter.
	RealLizUSA.
	Liz!
	The man who sadly bears the title of president is on Capitol Hill.
	It seems that the Build Back Better plan isn't working so good.
	So how desperate is he that he's there today and does he have a shot of pushing this abortion of a travesty across the line?
	Well, you got that right.
	It's absolutely a travesty.
	We cannot allow either of these monstrosities to pass.
	You know, it must be bad if they're dragging him out of Delaware, out of the basement, out of the fake White House set, wherever they're keeping him these days.
	You know, it's bad if Biden's going over there.
	But people cannot rest easy.
	I mean, these I cannot overstate this enough.
	These are terrible Bills that are designed to destroy the country as we know it.
	It's totally transformational.
	It is absolutely terrible and we can't let it happen.
	You know, this whole debate between 3.5 trillion and 1.5 trillion.
	Okay, both are way too much money for one in this economy, but more importantly, it's what the bills do, which is totally rewrite the way our country Our constitutional republic, the way it runs, it's trying to transform us into a socialist, communist, welfare state and we can't let that happen.
	And when they accuse conservatives of the big lie, isn't the real big lie that they say, whether it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 trillion?
	Liz, they tell us it's going to cost zero.
	I mean, this is I mean, this is so stunning.
	I mean, they say these things with a straight face.
	Now they're you're not allowed to say pregnant women.
	It's pregnant people.
	Three and a half trillion dollars is actually zero dollars.
	We have to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.
	All of these things don't make any sense.
	And that's what communists do.
	They rewrite the language.
	They push forward lies.
	The biggest lie of all, obviously, is that Joe Biden got 81 million votes.
	We know that isn't true.
	But all of this is such an attack.
	On Truth, an attack on the very foundation of our country.
	Hang on.
	And they do it every single day.
	Hang on, Liz.
	Hang on.
	Are you telling me that, I'm going to use a phrase I learned today, a desiccated senile old freak who stayed in his basement didn't get more votes than the first black president?
	Is that what you're saying to me, Liz?
	It's so amazing that you have the entire mainstream media I mean, all of it coming out and saying, oh, Joe Biden won.
	The audit results just confirmed it.
	Maricopa County, by the way, that hasn't voted Democrat since 1948.
	But the one who would make history again was the guy who never left the basement and couldn't fill six circles at a campaign rally when he did.
	We're the crazy ones, they say.
	They are.
	And they're pushing this propaganda, these lies for an illegitimate regime, to prop him up while they're destroying the country, by the way.
	And if the media would start digging into this election fraud, which is not going away, this movement is growing, the movement can decertify, it's full steam ahead, starting with Arizona.
	But if the media would start covering it, then they wouldn't be reading in the Wall Street Journal how they're complaining about $2 trillion in tax hikes and $5 trillion in spending.
	Well, everything they're doing is illegitimate.
	So why don't you go to the source, which started on November 3rd.
	All right, so tell our millions of listeners across the nation, from Los Angeles to New York and streaming at ramble.com, what do people who haven't been closely following it need to know?
	The truth about the Arizona audits, and what can we expect imminently from your boss, my old boss, when it comes to the Texas audit list?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So first, we just put out a statement, President Trump applauding Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick in Texas for helping move their effort in the state Senate for a full forensic audit, which we have to do.
	It's not just the swing states that we saw stop the count and did what they did after the election with mail-in ballots to prop Joe Biden and drag him across the finish line.
	It wasn't just there.
	If you look at all the anomalies, Texas has big questions.
	We want Texas Big, but I think we want it by even more and there's no harm in checking.
	So we have a good statement now.
	President Trump is all over it.
	And then Arizona.
	I mean, this is just reinforces why we need audits in every state.
	People need confidence in their election systems.
	The media is lying about this.
	They're saying that it reconfirmed the recount.
	It wasn't a recount.
	It was an audit.
	No matter how many times you count the same stuff ballot ballot box, You're going to get the same results.
	The problem is how many tens of thousands of ballots should have never been counted in the first place.
	We've got 23,000 of people, people who moved and they had mail-in ballots cast in their name from their prior address.
	Who voted those votes?
	17,000 duplicates, many of which surged and came in after Election Day.
	This is a state they claim is decided by 10,457 votes.
	There's more than enough to be certified.
	That's just the tip of the iceberg.
	There's hundreds of thousands of corrupt ballot images, numbers that don't add up in any of their election systems.
	And, of course, they purged their general election data the day before the audit began, deleted it.
	That's a federal crime.
	There are crimes that were committed in Arizona, and the attorney general has already sent a notice to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors telling them they have to preserve All the evidence from the 2020 election, so there's more to come there.
	We've only got a minute and a half left.
	Follow this lady on Twitter at RealLizUSA.
	She's a truth teller.
	She's a warrior for freedom.
	The website is DonaldJTrump.com.
	What happens then?
	If there is a push to decertify, what scenario is President Trump working with after that phase?
	We have to see what happens, and the pressure is there.
	We have Republicans in the House and the Senate who have already come on board.
	We need to primary anyone who doesn't get on board, because the evidence is clear.
	And so what happens next?
	Criminal investigations.
	People need to be held accountable, because if we don't fix this, if we don't have accountability for stealing votes and fraudulent ballots, I mean, you have ballots that were counted, mail-ins, with no signature.
	That's just on its face.
	Fraud, that takes away a legitimate vote of someone who stood in line and voted in the November election.
	So we need prosecutions, we need pressure politically, which we have on the grassroots level, and these other states.
	You have Georgia, damning evidence.
	There's an investigation that just started in another county because 43,000 mail-in ballots from drop boxes have no chain of custody.
	Again, a state decided by 11,000 votes.
	We cannot have this in America.
	I just have to say it is a breath of fresh air to hear such candor spoken about the last election and election fraud.
	You are a breath of fresh air.
	President Trump's spokesperson Liz Harrington.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	This is America First.
	Yep, mic's on.
	That was superb.
	I'm gonna ask if she can do a one-on-one.
	All right.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	All right, so we'll do a little bit of merchy-poo.
	We've done Presley.
	We've got to do Rand Paul.
	We've done Looney.
	Abortion is love.
	Kennedy's pretty funny.
	Kennedy?
	On Tucker, yeah.
	Where's that?
	Where's that?
	Oh, three.
	It's only a half of a piece.
	I hate kale!
	Don't mention kale on my show.
	Do I have to tee it up, or can it just run?
	It's self-explanatory.
	Somebody's calling.
	- Where are you going first?
	What's your name?
	- Um, we need to decertify the-- - All right, what did you want to say?
	The fraudulent elec... No.
	De-certify the fraudulent elections.
	De-certify the fraudulent elections.
	Yeah.
	Can you play me cut four?
	One second.
	Elections.
	Cut four.
	We're wide open.
	We're open for business.
	Right now, there's about between 50,000 and 100,000 people just from Haiti alone, reportedly making their way up from Panama and Central America to the U.S.-Mexico border.
	And that doesn't even include the tens of thousands of other people from all over the world that are making their way here.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	A minute and a half.
	Alright, what's your name?
	Alright, where are you calling from?
	Okay, what did you want to say?
	60 seconds.
	I just want to type studio and it goes and types stupid.
	Oh my goodness, I got some crazy autocorrects and autofills on my phone.
	I am a typo king.
	All right, let's do that.
	Let's have some fun.
	Come in with Kennedy.
	Let's come in with Kennedy.
	That footage of them in the tunnel, did you watch that footage?
	Of who?
	Of the senators shuffling in their masks in the tunnel.
	Where was that from?
	Today, Fox was in the basement of the Senate watching them all go to meet Biden.
	Every single one with a mask on.
	The Biden shuffle?
	The Biden soft shoe shuffle.
	Oh my goodness.
	Do the Biden shuffle.
	All right, 15 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Stand by.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka. -
	Secretary Yellen's suggestion that we tax the increase in value in assets that people own.
	And I think for average people, literally average people, this means real estate.
	So what would that mean for people who make 300 grand a year but whose house has doubled in value?
	That's a lot of people.
	Where would they be if this became law?
	This is what happens when you have a president and a treasury secretary.
	Who are on a mission from God to please pink-haired wokers who carry around Ziploc bags of kale.
	This is what happens.
	Pink-haired workers who carry along Ziploc bags of kale.
	I really do think that's the constituency that these people are appealing to.
	And it sneaks out.
	We could just spend the whole day on cuts, but to show you the deep, deep... I mean, Liz Harrington was amazing.
	She said it's communist.
	It's communist what they're doing.
	I've been texting her in the break.
	She's going to come on.
	She says she's going to go one-on-one.
	We're going to have an hour-long interview with her.
	She's coming in studio.
	So excited.
	But they let it slip out.
	Look at this clip.
	This is from the education secretary for the Biden administration about who should decide about a child's education.
	I'll give you a clue.
	It's not the parents.
	Cut 10.
	Fairly quick answers here, because I want to get to Secretary Becerra.
	Do you think parents should be in charge of their child's education as the primary stakeholder?
	I believe parents are important stakeholders, but I also believe educators have a role in determining educational programming.
	And I think that's going to be a little out of focus.
	What I think you're going to find across all elements of education Since they pay the bills, they raise the kids, they probably need to be the primary spokespeople for their own kids' good education.
	So you heard it right there.
	Biden, Secretary of Education, the parents should be one of the stakeholders.
	The stakeholders is just garbage Washington speak, but not the primary ones.
	No, no, not the parents.
	No, not the parents.
	The people who want to turn them into the pink haired Ziploc bag of kale Maoists.
	They just told you.
	Under oath!
	On Capitol Hill!
	Do you need any more evidence?
	I don't.
	Let's go to your questions, your calls, 833-33-GORKA, G-O-R-K-A, that's 833-334-6752.
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	Line 1, Al in California has a Second Amendment question.
	How you doing, Sebastian?
	I've got two quick questions for you.
	You are so reliable, Al.
	You're so reliable.
	Every Friday we get some great 2A questions from you.
	Okay, well, this is about magazines.
	Even the MP40, a German soldier, despite his reputation, said he didn't like to use it too much because the spring would go loose on it and it wouldn't feed.
	Same way with the brain gun.
	They had to underload it because of the spring.
	Hang on.
	Stop there, Al.
	You're being a little bit specific.
	Every magazine should be downloaded, even an AR.
	You shouldn't put 30 rounds in, 28 rounds.
	Just makes for higher reliability.
	They said that even the PPSH-40 was quite reliable.
	Very!
	Oh, it's probably the most, outside of my favorite, the Sterling, I would say the PPSH is the most reliable subgun.
	Ugly as all get-out, but super reliable.
	That's pronounced Pistolet Pouillemet Spahina, I think.
	Nicely done.
	Anyway, here's my question on Andrew Mayorkas.
	I don't know if you picked up on this phrase.
	This really makes me angry.
	He said, well, just being illegally in the United States is not grounds for deportation.
	Here's my question.
	What in the hell is that man doing in that job?
	He is creating the new constituency of Democrat voters who they think will keep them in power in perpetuity.
	That's why he's really there.
	Isn't that a shame?
	What a state of affairs!
	Oh, that's why I have called him the most evil person in the cabinet.
	A man who arrives here as a toddler in the arms of his Cuban refugee parents, and when the Cubans today are fighting back against communism, he says, you can stay in that stinking communist hellhole that I escaped from, but we can let two million Mexicans, Guatemalans, Haitians across the border.
	That's why that man is evil.
	Great question, great contribution.
	Thank you, Al.
	More of your calls.
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	PatriotMobile.com slash - Nice on. - All right, hang on, I'll try to get you I'll try to get you on.
	Alright, I have the Blackburn cut.
	Great.
	How long is it?
	It is 23 seconds long.
	Okay.
	Can you play it for me?
	Yes.
	I think a lot of these families right now, they don't feel like you have your back.
	The special ops guys I met with Friday in my office in Nashville, that are taking their time, their money, and risking their lives to do a job that the three of you could not do.
	Maybe we're going to remember you three as the three that broke the military.
	Beautiful.
	Perfect.
	That's exactly what I need.
	Biden's there now at Capitol Hill.
	Is this an insurrection?
	Is he trying to stop the vote?
	The no vote?
	He's going to climb through the window.
	You've got to see the footage of them in the basement shuffling along.
	There's that woman from New York with the blue hair, you know, the crazy one.
	She was like walking over.
	Oh yeah.
	Delora or whatever?
	Just Connecticut.
	Connecticut.
	Connecticut.
	Yeah.
	She's so weird.
	She is really weird.
	I'm sure it was worse.
	Her or that one black congressman who was always wearing these ridiculous cowboy hats.
	The one that- Who's- Oh!
	Oh, Florida.
	Yeah, is she still there?
	I think.
	I haven't seen her in ages.
	Yeah, I haven't seen her, but I'm pretty sure she's still there.
	No idea which one- what her name is, but yeah, that's her thing.
	I just don't get it.
	Why people in their 70s and 80s stay there?
	I know.
	How much money do you need?
	It's not about money.
	It's so creepy.
	It's about power.
	No, but it's just creepy.
	Okay, predictions, Jeff?
	For the bill?
	Is he gonna get it done?
	It'll be some less thing, I think.
	Less aversion.
	Yeah.
	But the problem... And they're gonna buy off Mansion, right?
	Yeah.
	But someone was saying, too, it's all they need to do is get a little bit in, then every year it gets renewed.
	You know what I mean?
	So you can't... We have no idea what it is, really.
	Which is incredible.
	It's only 27,000 pages, so you know.
	I love when they print them out.
	Or what I often hear.
	But I think they might push it to December, too, around that debt ceiling thing, if they doesn't.
	But it'll probably get through.
	This is all theater.
	How long does it take for him to get from the White House?
	I mean, seriously.
	With the motorcade and everything?
	Yeah, not that long.
	Alright, 20 seconds.
	I think Kluba Street's out.
	Yep.
	- Stand by. - How are you?
	I'm wonderful.
	Well, you are wonderful, and we appreciate you.
	Love our lady callers.
	Just brightens our day here on America First.
	Let's go to the call board.
	The call board is absolutely full.
	Let's start with Columbus, Ohio, line 4.
	Claude, welcome aboard.
	Hey, thank you, Mr. Sebastian.
	This is an awful delight for me.
	I've followed you for a long time.
	Thank you.
	I'm actually from northern Vermont, but I've moved to Ohio.
	And I'm a straight shooter, and I didn't vote in the last election because I knew my vote wasn't going to count.
	Every vote counts because it actually depends on appropriation of budgets and seats.
	Every single vote in America counts.
	But carry on, Claude.
	Well, I kind of disagree.
	I just think there's too many fraudulent votes.
	It's un-American.
	Not to exercise your vote is un-American.
	You have a responsibility to vote.
	But carry on.
	What's your main point, Claude?
	I understand that.
	And I'm a straight shooter, and I usually do vote in every election.
	But watching this election fraud, and we know it's election fraud, I would love it to see that the Republicans, the Conservatives, do the exact same thing that their Democrats were doing, so the Democrats would be the one calling for an audit.
	That would be funny.
	Is that a joke, or do you seriously want us to cheat?
	No, I'm joking, but it would be funny.
	Like I said, I'm a straight shooter.
	I'm very concerned about the election integrity.
	I think it really needs to be cleaned up before 2022, because there are many people who are like me that are just so frustrated watching our president being trashed 24-7 every day, going on for five years now.
	I think we've all had enough, and it's time to bring this country together.
	And, you know, where are all these celebrities that usually Well, some celebrities never say the right thing because they're on the left and the celebrities are in Hollywood.
	You know, with the odd exception of people like Joe Rogan who are so rich they can say whatever they want.
	They are woke.
	The celebrities are woke.
	But it's not enough to complain.
	It's not enough to identify the problem.
	We have to solve it.
	So yes, we have to fix it so they can't steal elections again.
	And that means we have to make sure the state Legislatures in Arizona, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, everywhere, take their constitutional duties seriously and don't let Democrat governors and secretaries of state ride roughshod over them.
	It is up to us.
	Are you doing something about it?
	That's the question every single one of us has to ask ourselves every single day.
	Thank you for your call, Claude.
	Let's go to California, Antoinette.
	We always talk on Thursdays, but I wasn't here.
	Welcome, Antoinette.
	Hi, Dr. G. I missed you yesterday, Thursday, so it's Friday today.
	It is Friday.
	Hey, it was great hearing all your analysis about Planned Parenthood and all that crap and nonsense, but this morning in Santa Ana, which I'm sorry, yesterday, Thursday, we had a really great turnout.
	But today on Friday at our infamous corner at TCH and MacArthur Boulevard, we're going to share it with the non-vaccine people as well today.
	So voice for the voiceless, 430 to 630 at Pacific Coast Highway and MacArthur.
	We'll also have the People that are demonstrating.
	Nurses in front of hospitals right now.
	They're going to join us today on our corner as well.
	I love it.
	Take some photographs.
	We want to see some photographs.
	Antoinette, do you have one of our My Body, My Choice, No Vaccine Mandate t-shirts?
	No, Dr. G, I haven't gotten it yet.
	Stay on the line, Antoinette.
	Let's send her a couple.
	Stay on the line, Antoinette.
	Tell Jeff what size you need, and we'll send you a couple of those shirts.
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	Sandy, Arizona, line three.
	By the way, live footage What is this phrase I learned from my buddy Colonel K?
	The desiccated senile old freak is arriving at Capitol Hill.
	That is the official title from now on.
	Sandy, welcome to America First.
	Dr. G, it is an honor for me to speak to you, honestly.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	Thank you.
	I just want to make a comment.
	See, I've been hearing a lot of this, like people like Claude, from my fellow patriots They're very discouraged with the media.
	You know, they see all these things with our border patrol agents.
	I said, you know what?
	This is fitting perfectly, actually, with Claude's call.
	I just want to say, when the media is in overdrive, when they are attacking us, it's like a wounded animal.
	It knows that it's losing.
	So they need to keep spreading the lies and not to be discouraged.
	We need to stand together.
	Yes, we are strong, but I also wanted to say that anytime you see the media going to overdrive, that's when we're at our strongest.
	Yeah, you know, I think most of the time you're right, Sandy, but they don't really need any extra encouragement.
	Because they are just the ideological propaganda arm of the DNC.
	But yes, when they're really attacking, it's the same when I was in the White House, when they attacked us the most, we knew we were over the target.
	So it's a good metric.
	Thank you, Sandy.
	Let's go to Chris in Los Angeles, line one.
	Dr. G, it's great to speak with you.
	And when you mentioned Stephen Decatur and Chessie Puller, as a former Marine, I knew exactly who you were talking about.
	I hope so.
	I was talking about it, yes.
	I was surrounded by Marines at this event in Tulsa.
	And I said, guys, they said, did you know the Marine Corps was founded in a bar, in a pub?
	I said, yes.
	But did you know the first special operations mission of the US military was the Marines under Stephen Decatur off the shores of Tripoli?
	Of course they did.
	God bless you, Chris.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	My comment is to put the immigration activists' demands in context.
	What they're saying is that after we have broken into your house, we should be able to force you to adopt us and give us your children's inheritance.
	Pretty much.
	Pretty much.
	It's taking over everything in America, from not allowing you to travel by airplane, to making sure that petroleum gas engines are eventually banned, and even beef.
	Why?
	Because, well, cows, they're just too flatulent.
	So you're going to have to cut down, according to the Daily Mail, 90% of your beef intake.
	Not in my house, not in the Gorka family.
	Stay on the line, Chris.
	Semper Fi.
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	I do take issue with your trashing of spinach.
	Spinach is awful.
	It's like metal.
	One of my favorite things to make is... But how?
	Do you mix it with bacon?
	No, I make cream spinach.
	Oh, that's different.
	Well, I love spinach in any regards.
	You like spinach by itself?
	One day I only ate spinach, which was a mistake.
	Who hired this guy?
	He likes spinach.
	He's weird.
	Yeah, let's fire him.
	I changed my mind.
	This goes through.
	There's no way they send Biden and all these cameras out now.
	That way they can say he saved a day, brought people together.
	What, so you think it's a done deal?
	I don't think they'd bring him in.
	Yeah, I don't think there's a thing he's gonna say to anybody to convince people.
	But why does having a lot of cameras mean that it succeeded?
	That way they can say afterwards he got people together, the progressives, the...
	I see that angle.
	Are you saying it's all fake?
	Yes.
	You confirm the number of votes you need and then you say okay Biden come in and act like you saved the day.
	I can see that happening.
	But that means that they want to give him credit.
	Which is strange.
	Which is strange.
	Why would Nancy and AOC want to give him credit?
	Yeah, that's true too.
	Right?
	He's on the outs, isn't he?
	But I mean, there's other people you can send.
	I mean, him is... Who the hell is he gonna convince?
	I'm willing to bet that, like, there is definitely some strong-arming behind-the-scenes Pelosi going to the progressives and saying, you know, we will completely destroy you if you don't vote for the Republicans.
	No, I think you convince the progressives easily, because they're idiots.
	Well, I said this to Mark Davis yesterday.
	I said, if there's one thing progressives have in common with Republicans, it's that they both cave to a Democratic leadership.
	Every time.
	Yep.
	That is true.
	That is true.
	20 seconds?
	Well, that is true.
	Stand by.
	Well, I guess we'll see.
	I guess we'll see.
	It's gotta happen soon.
	Or maybe he's there to meet with people like Romney.
	You know what I mean?
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	Let's go to Rachel, California, line two.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	I hope I've missed this because I haven't seen anything in the mainstream media about it.
	But the other day, Gavin Newsom signed into law, AB 173, I believe, which allows the personal information of lawful gun owners and ammo purchasers in California to be sent to the University of California at Davis for research on violence. which allows the personal information of lawful gun owners and
	So they're going to be sending the names, addresses, telephone numbers, occupations, plus the serial numbers, the make type of guns of lawful gun owners in California to the University of California at Davis for research on violence.
	Now, if you ask me, it's the registered gun owners who are not the ones committing violence.
	The people committing violence with guns are the ones who are not registered owners.
	Of course.
	I think this is outrageous.
	And the colleges aren't going to get the data from criminals.
	Stay on the line.
	I need to check that out.
	Give the details of that story to Jeff and to Eric, because I need to see that story.
	Really appreciate the update, Rachel.
	Let's go to Ed, also in California.
	Everybody in California is listening today.
	Welcome, Ed.
	Hello, sir.
	It is an honor to speak to you, Sebastian.
	I hope you can help me today.
	I'm still puzzled.
	It seems that in General Miley's testimony, he indicated that he had to call General Li Zuocheng of the People's Liberation Army to assure him that the United States was not going to suddenly go to war with and attack China.
	Well, to begin with, what smells here Has the United States ever really considered attacking China?
	No, of course not.
	It's fake news.
	It's garbage.
	Why would he make that call unless there was some threat of us going to war with China?
	It's the point of my question.
	Why did this general contact Miley in the first place.
	What was he afraid of?
	Well, that's what we have to get to the bottom of.
	Why?
	Not only why is he contacting him without any pretext for that connection, the worst thing is, which is the utterly treasonous action, why is an individual who by the U.S.
	Constitution is outside the chain of the command, he's just an advisor to the President, why is he saying?
	Because he admitted this!
	Why is he saying, and don't worry, if President Trump does do it, I'll give you a heads up.
	We have one strategic level peer competitor.
	It is China.
	They want to destroy us.
	They want to undermine us.
	And this man, the most senior military officer, is saying, hey, it's OK.
	I'll give you a heads up.
	That guy should be in the brig, not Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller, that brave Marine.
	Thank you, Ed.
	Great call.
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	.
	You're listening to America First with Dr. G. I think a lot of these families right now, they don't feel like you have your back.
	The special ops guys I met with Friday in my office in Nashville that are taking their time, their money, and risking their lives to do a job that the three of you could not do.
	Maybe we're going to remember you three as the three that broke the military.
	Incredible words.
	Every time I play that, I'm just thankful that we have some patriots, a handful left on Capitol Hill.
	That is Tennessee's Marsha Blackburn, the senator who maybe is one of the most courageous and outspoken, telling Mark Milley, the CENTCOM commander and the Secretary of Defense that you are the guys that probably broke our United States Armed Forces.
	And we are honored to have her with us today.
	Senator Blackburn, welcome back to America First.
	Oh, I am so happy to join you.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	I want to go straight to the meat of the matter.
	Why is it that so few of your colleagues just get to the heart of the issue the way you do?
	I kind of had a flash of inspiration as I was watching you live.
	I saw the Chiron.
	Oh, I tell you, I just, this is my calling in life.
	and senator since 2019.
	And I thought, well, maybe that's it, because she's still a citizen.
	She's not a politician.
	She tells the truth.
	So do you have any explanation as to why you're such a, you know, a lone voice of clarity and courage?
	Oh, I tell you, I just, this is my calling in life.
	I say I get up every day to work to defend faith, family, freedom, hope, and opportunity.
	And I feel like I so truly believe what Reagan always told us, that freedom does not get passed along in the bloodstream.
	It is up to every single generation to fight for it, preserve it, and pass it on free to the next generation.
	So that is my calling, and that is what I focus on every day.
	And what we saw happen in Afghanistan is the conduct, the way our commanders didn't stand up for defending the country.
	And obviously, after the hearing, we know they did not have plans B, C, or D if Plan A didn't work.
	And it doesn't sound like they told him Plan A was never going to work.
	You could not shorten that timeline.
	You could not remove all the troops and still say, we're going to get every American out of there because then you had no way to facilitate that.
	So this is why I think Biden, Harris, Milley, Austin, Lincoln, they, everyone ought to resign for what they have done.
	Absolutely.
	I have to ask you, I asked you offline before the show began, before the second hour began, I'm going to do it in front of our millions of listeners.
	What is your theory?
	You had them in your crosshairs, watching Millie's face was just incredible as you read him the riot act.
	Why did they flip in the space of less than 24 hours?
	First day they said, you know, we didn't tell, we can't comment on on what we said to the president and then you got them to admit that yes we told the president that he needs to have two and a half thousand troops minimum in Kabul.
	Why did they change their mind?
	Why did they seemingly throw Joe Biden under the bus, Senator?
	Because they knew that we had them under oath and they are required to tell us we are the ones See, in America, we don't have government control, military control of our government and our people.
	We have civilian control of our military.
	The U.S.
	Senate signs off on every single promotion that is made in the U.S.
	military.
	But these guys, I think, after they got to that hearing and they saw the vitriol from Not only Republicans, but also Democrats.
	And the push for answers, I think at that point they realized that their back was against the wall.
	And that is why I asked them to confirm that yes, they had told the President that there had to be 2,500 troops left in order to defend the Bagram Airfield and the prison that is there.
	Our embassy and HKIA airport.
	And I thought it was interesting that General McKenzie said, you know, he had even recommended that they move up to 4,000 people.
	Very fascinating.
	Follow this lady on Twitter at Marsha Blackburn, blackburn.senate.gov as well.
	We have a very brave officer, a Marine Corps officer called Stuart Scheller, who is in the brig, who has been arrested.
	Mark Milley, who's admitted calling his Chinese counterparts in communist China to give them a heads up if President Trump declared war.
	Your reaction to the fact that Milley is still in uniform, he's still the most senior officer in the United States, and that Colonel Scheller is in a military prison?
	Well, and it is such an inequity because Mark Milley, by talking to reporters and telling them what President Donald Trump was saying and what was transpiring, he was outside of his command.
	He was speaking out of turn.
	But Mark Milley says he has no intention of resigning.
	And Colonel Scheller is now in the brig because basically he did the same thing.
	He did it on social media.
	So Joe Biden is going to protect Mark Milley because Mark Milley has protected Joe Biden.
	But you know what?
	We're trying, we're all working, trying to get to the bottom of this to support Lieutenant Colonel Scheller and to make certain that there is equitable treatment for our men and women in uniform.
	I will tell you one thing, Sebastian.
	I think that this is pointed out to the American people.
	First of all, we have leaders in place right now who have politicized the U.S.
	military.
	That is not a safe place for our men and women in uniform to be experiencing a politicized military.
	We're seeing it not only in the conduct of General Milley and Secretary Austin, But look at what has transpired with this CRT training in the military, where we're taking our focus off of lethality and providing for the common defense and defending the United States against all enemies.
	Foreign and domestic.
	And people are going, hey, wait a minute.
	We can't do this.
	This is not right.
	And Millie is fine with bigoted ideology like critical race theory being taught at West Point.
	We're talking to Senator Marshall Blackburn.
	Her book is The Mind of a Conservative Woman, Seeking the Best for Family and Country.
	You are such a champion of American families as well.
	I have to play for you a cut from the Because you don't understand why these bans on abortion are not about having more black and brown babies born.
	I have to have your reaction to this outrageous propaganda.
	This is an abortion activist, Loretta Ross.
	Play Cut Six.
	Because you don't understand why these bans on abortion are not about having more black and brown babies born.
	They want more white babies to be born.
	When we have seen almost half of all the babies killed since Roe v. Wade be black Americans, is there no limit to the size of the lies that the pro-abortion activists will spread in this country, Senator?
	We had a hearing in Judiciary this week on the Texas abortion law, and it was striking to me that a couple of the witnesses would lead you to believe and actually answer questions to me in a manner that would show they believe that a woman can't be truly equal unless she has access to abortion.
	Now, they don't talk about the right of the child, the unborn child, but they talk about the right to have that abortion.
	Whenever they want it, whether it is first, second, or third trimesters, being able to have access to that abortion.
	And of course, the Texas Heartbeat Bill has gone to court and they have filed, some of the Democrats in Texas have filed a very liberal, far-reaching abortion bill that would allow rights Half and beyond what Robey Wade covers.
	Unbelievable.
	But we know as long as there's somebody like you fighting for us, that we have a shot at keeping that shining city on the hill that Reagan taught us about.
	The website is blackburn.senate.gov.
	Follow this lady, support this lady.
	She's on Twitter at marshablackburn.com and at marshablackburn.
	And again, thank you for what you did to tell the truth today in front of the three men that have done the most To damage the US military.
	This is AmericaFest. AmericaFest.
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	you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you. - He's club for growth, I thought.
	Yeah, I don't think he's... But you know, his office has been empty for like a year.
	And I said, well, can we, you know, use his office?
	And they kept saying, no, no, no, no.
	And then finally they said, yes.
	So I don't know what's going on.
	Should have a new president next week or the week after.
	Seriously?
	Minute and a half.
	Oh.
	I tell you the names, but turn the mics off.
	We have to turn the mics off.
	We have to turn the mics off.
	We have to turn the mics off.
	All right, car 15.
	Car 15 here.
	And yep, that'll be it for this segment.
	You didn't hear it from me, though.
	Okay.
	Do you want to do a quick check on the mic?
	I'm taking over Heritage.
	Oh, let's start that rumor.
	Let's start that rumor.
	Yeah.
	Is it good?
	All right.
	30 seconds.
	You'll get the Daily Beast riding along.
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	Never laugh.
	The best one is when I left the administration and I think it was the Beast, or who was it, one of these garbage places, said, uh, sit back.
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	Jim, welcome in studio.
	Hey, it's great to be with you.
	It's Friday.
	Oh my God.
	And not only that, I haven't, I don't think I've had, I haven't had a McDonald's apple pie.
	That was pretty awesome.
	Probably a decade.
	And I had, I got up at four Thank you.
	this morning to fly back to the studio and i'm hungry and my dad said if you don't sleep you gotta eat and i just he had two of them and i had one of them and that was a very good friday keep my emergency supply at mcdonald's apple pies always at the ready anything for a friend slightly better than military people are they're like take my last bullet You know, here's my last spigot of water and an apple pie.
	And an apple pie.
	Tim, I know you want to talk about a specific issue you mentioned when you came in, but I've got to ask you to react.
	We just had Senator Marshall Blackburn on with the hearings with Milley and with...
	I call it Washington's three failures, right?
	You know, we failed 38 million Afghans.
	And yes, we tell the president.
	No, we didn't tell the president.
	What's the big take home of this?
	Yeah, so it's I call it Washington's three failures.
	Right.
	You know, we failed 38 million Afghans.
	I think Washington this week failed 330 million, 31 million Americans.
	The one failure is and even though they refuse to connect the dots, there's plenty of the one failure is the president made all the wrong decisions.
	The consequences for all the terrible things that happened in Afghanistan.
	It's not the 20-year war or the graveyard of empires or whatever.
	He made bad decisions.
	That's what's responsible for the bad consequences and putting America's interests in jeopardy.
	That, I don't think.
	That's failure number one.
	Failure number two is the senior military leaders, but it's a different kind of thing.
	It's not, I think, that they advised the president wrongly.
	You want to have discussions and trust and confidence with the president because that way you can be candid and everything else.
	Nobody's asking you to betray those.
	But on the other hand, it's not your job as a senior military leader to carry the president's water.
	You are supposed to provide advice to the president.
	You're supposed to follow lawful orders and you're supposed to honorably command the men and women underneath you.
	It is not your job to do the politics, to read the president's talking points, to obfuscate your answers, to make excuses for the president.
	And I think they've done that.
	I think they've twisted themselves in circles trying to essentially defend policies which are indefensible.
	And that's wrong.
	But what about the obverse?
	You talk about them carrying the water for the current incumbent.
	What about attacking his predecessor?
	Because, I mean, Tom Cotton, Marshall Blackburn, Matt Gaetz asked the serious question.
	How is it As you know, we're prepping to leave Afghanistan because these interviews occurred this year.
	As China is doing what it's doing, as Iran is doing what it's doing, we have the chairman of the Joint Chiefs sitting down for hours repeatedly with a reporter to give interviews trashing the last president or just spending that much time.
	I think Milley has demonstrated a lack of Professional behavior, incompetent.
	Look at the phone call with the Chinese.
	I'll call you if we're going to attack you, but look, we're not going to attack you.
	Who talks like that to the head of the military of a foreign country whose English is not even their native language?
	Their concept of humor is not the same.
	The idea of satire in a professional conversation like that, talking about nuclear weapons, that is completely irresponsible.
	And why wouldn't you alert the entire intelligence community?
	You know, when this happened under Reagan, because the Russians thought Reagan was crazy and, you know, he was going to start a nuclear war.
	We had a nationwide federal effort to understand what was going on.
	His behavior, I think, has been really amateurish.
	And for a four-star general with decades in service to do this kind of interviews with a journalist, especially with Woodward, knowing how that stuff is played, and then to stand up before Congress and say, well, I've read the book.
	Which is either a lie or an idiot.
	I imagine maybe he didn't personally read the book, but I'm sure the entire staff plowed through that and diagrammed every sentence.
	And why wouldn't he be honest about that?
	So I think that's the second failure.
	And the third failure really is, I think, the Congress.
	And no aspersions to the senator or every congressman.
	But they didn't deliver the truth, right?
	Republicans attacked, Democrats defended.
	I mean, to be honest, everybody who was bipartisan said it was a disaster.
	What did you want to hear?
	Well, I think something that can actually happen in a congressional hearing, which is the actual timeline, actual context.
	So when somebody says, I told the president, That doesn't really mean anything.
	How did you tell the president?
	When did you tell the president?
	What exactly did you tell the president?
	What did the president respond to you?
	That requires, I think, an independent, nonpartisan commission like we had on 9-11.
	I think we need that on Kabul.
	Maybe not a commission, but we also need on the China call.
	I want to know when.
	Let me be very blunt.
	You're one of the most plugged in guys.
	You've been in this city for decades.
	You've served this nation in uniform for decades.
	Was anybody in January or February, did you hear on the grapevine, President Trump's going to nuke China?
	No.
	It's garbage, isn't it, Jim?
	No.
	You know, the funny story, so under Reagan, there was actually this moment, it was called Able Archer.
	The exercise, Able Archer, and then Operation Ryan.
	Right.
	They thought we were going to nuke them.
	I actually, I'm not sure I was actually on that exercise.
	It was you!
	No.
	It was your nuclear artillery unit, wasn't it?
	I actually think I did Able Archer the year after the crisis.
	Oh, yeah.
	We'll check the timeline.
	But the point is, That was a serious thing, and there's a big debate about whether the Russians even took this seriously, right?
	But they did stand up an intel cell, we know that.
	But the point is, on something as incredibly serious as the command and control of nuclear weapons, you would have the entire government wired in on this.
	I didn't study that.
	I'll give you another good example, the call with Pelosi.
	Pelosi calls and says, I want to talk about nukes.
	I think we talked about this, right?
	The answer would be, that's a wonderful question.
	It's the most important thing that we do.
	You know what?
	Let's get the minority leader on the line and let's have three of us talk this through.
	Yes.
	But here's the problem with Millie.
	And look, I was in the army for 25 years.
	I served in the Pentagon.
	I worked with senior leaders.
	I saw them testify.
	I heard about these meetings.
	A professional military senior commander understands how to faithfully serve this country and support their leader, be responsible to the Congress, and faithfully serve and look after the men and women.
	It's simple, but it's not easy.
	You do the right thing, and it's not easy sometimes because it might make you uncomfortable, but the clear thing on what to do and how not to screw this up, it's not hard to do if you have moral or you're competent.
	Millie has failed, but it's not a one-off thing.
	It's a pattern.
	It's like Biden.
	It's not, oh my God, Biden screwed up Afghanistan.
	Biden screwed up everything!
	40 years.
	Bob Gates said it.
	He has been on the wrong side of every foreign policy issue for 40 years.
	As Jim said, what did you say?
	You said it's simple, not easy.
	I think a Prussian said that about war.
	Everything in war is simple, but simple is not easy.
	Simple is not easy.
	Always got to bring it back to the Prussian.
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	Point Chiefs.
	How do you get the Chief of Staff of the Army if he's so woke, or... Oh, you're so incompetent?
	Well, you know, remember what's... who's the... the, um... the guy in, uh... uh... the Bosnian war, the general.
	Clark.
	Clark.
	You know, Wes Clark got that job because they just wanted to get rid of him.
	Everybody hated Wes Clark.
	He was the most self-serving officer in the military.
	So he got promoted out?
	Yeah, and so when he didn't get Did they hate Schwarzkopf as well?
	Just to get him out of the way?
	And then they put him in some, because it was the 90s.
	They thought it was quiet.
	Did they hate Schwarzkopf as well?
	Well, Schwarzkopf was, they gave Schwarzkopf CENTCOM.
	Just to get him out of the way?
	Yeah.
	And then it could wait.
	Why did they want him out of the way?
	Because of his character?
	I don't know.
	But Schwarzkopf really stepped up to the plate.
	He did not get that job.
	But sometimes, you know, when you get to these things, because it gets very political, it's the way they get rid of some of these guys is they just put them out to pasture, right?
	And they, but it's incredible.
	But, you know, the other thing is, first of all, you know, the way it's, guys go up and then people follow them in their train, right?
	And then the guy, and it's like a genetic defect, right?
	If they'll drag these guys.
	Follows that line of the book.
	They'll drag these guys all the way.
	And then, you know, after you get past, you know, really the one star, it's kind of got "Life of a Tony" It gets super, super political.
	And so it's not unusual to see, you know, guys with three and four stars who are just really just like, wow, you know, who, you know, probably shouldn't have been higher than colonel.
	But because of this odd circumstance, they wind up with three and four stars and they're just like, geez, look at Frieden Hall.
	Two minutes.
	Frieden Hall was everybody's all American.
	This is the general in World War II then.
	And he went into combat.
	He never got closer than 50 miles to the front.
	It was an utter disaster.
	And then there were other guys that were... That Russian thing is pretty demonstrable, though.
	I mean, Gordievsky confirmed it.
	They really thought we were going to nuke him.
	So, I mean, I've seen... I mean, I don't know.
	I've seen different things.
	I saw... I mean, he told... He told... So, he, when he was still in the KGB, he told his handler, you've got to tell The West to stop this, and that's why Thatcher told Reagan to cool his jets.
	Yeah, I've seen both.
	I mean, I've also seen, you know, articles and stuff that claim that they really didn't believe that, but they did that because they wanted to, you know, freak the U.S.
	out, which sounds very Russian as well.
	But who knows?
	But it's true.
	But I was actually on Naval Archer, but I do think it was 1903.
	I have a wonderful story about that.
	I was a captain, so I was the night chef guy.
	There was nothing to do, so I went into the vault and took out the war plant, the NATO secret nuclear war plant, and read the war plant, and I knocked my coffee cup over, and I spilt it all over the war plant, and I just kind of squeegeed it off.
	It's a huge, giant brown stain on it.
	So when we went to war, we said, Caravana's been here.
	I think we're supposed to nuke... Wolf?
	Is it Warsaw?
	I can't see!
	It's like that scene in Top Gun spilling his coffee.
	Alright, we've got 20 seconds.
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	I think we should send... Let's do this.
	Let's send one to Mark Milley at the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Office.
	The one that says, don't be woke because you're a loser.
	Let's send him one in XXXXL.
	Okay?
	I'm really keeping this hat by the way.
	You better!
	I want to see it in your Heritage Studio next time you're on my Newsmag show.
	Okay Jim, you seriously wanted to talk about the Connect service?
	So this is a real issue that's still live.
	So there's a National Defense Authorization Act passes every year.
	There's a provision in the House version which requires young women to register for selective service.
	So if there was a call-up, they could, you know, essentially be forced to fight.
	The draft, right?
	In a combat.
	And then now there's going to be a vote on this.
	Look, this is a bad idea.
	First things, whose idea is it?
	Whose driving this?
	It's actually got Republican and Democrat votes on it, but it's First of all, I think a lot of people think, well, men and women should be treated equally.
	No argument there.
	People should want to serve their country.
	No argument there.
	The draft has nothing to do with that.
	First of all, I think in every American war – somebody will probably call it a samurai – but definitely in World War II, More volunteers fight than people drafted.
	Even in Vietnam.
	Vietnam was primarily fought by volunteers.
	Really?
	I didn't know that.
	It was not fought by draftees.
	So the whole thing about the draft cards is a kind of red herring?
	We have conscription in the Constitution for moments of national emergency.
	So after World War II, largely because Truman lost the requirement for U.S.
	military service, right?
	Essentially, the compromise was they reinstituted the draft.
	It basically stuck around because it was cheap.
	Right.
	Because rather than spending the extra money to recruit the extra thing, we just drafted people, right?
	And draft soldiers were terrible.
	They're in for two years.
	They don't do anything.
	They leave.
	And of course, it became a political issue during Vietnam.
	So why is this a bad idea?
	Well, because we're probably never ever going to use the draft again.
	And even if we did, 70% of American youth are not qualified to serve in military service.
	Now that's the problem, isn't it?
	Which means that the people that you could actually draft are the people who are already volunteering.
	Does that fit enough?
	So it's actually unlikely that even if we had a draft, we would actually be able to use it to actually get people in the military.
	So it's, and we're not going to, and look, we're just not going to fight mass war.
	So there's, so there's, we ought to abolish elective service because it's obsolete.
	So this idea about drafting women is not about we're going to treat them equally because we're not, because it does, it's not about people are going to be, you know, be a better Patriots because they're not going to do anything other than fill out a card.
	Empty, woke jester is what it is.
	That's what I wanted to say.
	Is this just another kind of virtue signaling?
	It is, exactly.
	And we're doing this without a national debate.
	Nobody asked American women if they want to be drafted, right?
	And here's the thing is, if Congress really cared about military readiness and allowing women to serve, there's so many things that we could make it easier for them to join the National Guard and Reserve.
	You could have a volunteer registration where people could volunteer if they want to sign up, and they could decide if I want to sign up, do I want to volunteer in a combat or non-combat role?
	I think the reason why they can get away with this is because they know it will never actually happen.
	But I do like the idea of making it easier and more streamlined for the reserve and the guard.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, there's so many things we could do if we actually wanted to increase the opportunity and propensity for women to serve.
	This is an empty woke gesture and it's the kind of feel-good thing that's just kind of almost despicable and disgusting.
	All right, we have to declare war on wokeism.
	I've had enough.
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	Welcome to America First.
	Sebastian, great to hear from you.
	You're right, it has been too long.
	Is it true that you are out on the range today?
	We are reaching you somewhere where you're having fun with firearms?
	Yes, indeed.
	Yes, indeed.
	I'm down in Texas at pretty much the mecca of long range shooting, which is Todd Hodnett's place in Accuracy First.
	What are you shooting?
	What calibers are you shooting?
	What are you doing?
	Well, we're starting off with the little guns, the 6.5s, and then we'll be stepping up and no doubt we'll end up with 3.38 Lapua's.
	Love it.
	6.5 Creedmoor, 3.38 Lapua.
	was.
	Love it.
	6.5 Creedmoor, 338 Lapua.
	No 50 cows, Ian?
	No, no.
	You know, it's just excessive.
	But it's fun!
	Especially offhand.
	I love shooting my Barrett offhand.
	It's just, it's a giggle.
	It's a giggle.
	All right.
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	Ian, you are the creator, the founder, the head of the best magazine out there.
	I've been reading gun magazines since I could walk.
	Go to at recoil mag to find out more.
	Tell us what you're seeing in the industry.
	Every year we worry about gun rights, the second amendment rights.
	Should this be different?
	Is this qualitatively different?
	Some amazing, exciting things.
	Smith and Wesson just said we've had enough Wow.
	of Massachusetts, and they're moving to Tennessee.
	So give us a snapshot, an update of what you're seeing in our world for gun lovers.
	What we're seeing is really the ripple effect of 8.4 million new gun owners joining the Second Amendment community since last year.
	And that impact on just the general landscape.
	of the Second Amendment community, having that many new shooters come into the fold, I think we're going to be feeling that for the next few years.
	Isn't it...
	8.4, that's crazy.
	Is it now our challenge as people who've been shooting for decades and decades to go beyond them just, you know, worrying about COVID or worrying about crime?
	They buy a 9mm Glock, they buy an AR-15 and then they just shove it away.
	Isn't it up to us, Ian, to make them active parts of our community and how do we do that?
	I really do.
	I really do.
	I think you hit the nail on the head there, Fred, because if people do just put a gun in the nightstand drawer, then it just becomes a token.
	And it's a token, and rather than become a symbol of freedom, it just sits there and gathers dust.
	Whereas if you are a shooter, if you are active in the Second Amendment community, if you've been shooting for a number of years, then why not reach out to somebody who may have just done that as a result of you know, the turbulence that we've seen over the last 18 months, then take them out of the range.
	And you'd never know if you could convert that person into being not just a gun owner, but a Second Amendment advocate.
	The website is recoilweb.com.
	I've even written for Recoil in the past.
	They've done an amazing one.
	I think one of the best interviews that I ever gave is at recoilweb.com.
	Tell us in the last couple of minutes we have anything you've covered recently you're very excited about or anything you're about to get your hands on that you can tease for us.
	There are a few things that have happened recently.
	There's the flood of new compact 9mm handguns going at the market, which really makes the self-defense handguns easy to shoot and more accessible to a greater number of people.
	I think that's a great thing that's happened.
	And everybody now is jumping on that bandwagon.
	And because of competition and the great American capitalist system, there's something out there for everybody.
	And it's just the competition just drives innovation.
	And we're seeing that more and more.
	And going into fall, we're seeing a raft of new hunting rifles coming out with some cool new calibers too.
	Yeah, what are you excited in terms of new calibers?
	I just got my hands on my first 6.5 Creedmoor, have yet to shoot it.
	What are you hankering for?
	Well, the 6.5 Creedmoor's bigger brother, the 6.5 PRC, adds about another 300 feet per second over to the Creedmoor's already impressive ballistics.
	And I've used that in Africa, and I've used it out in the Rocky Mountains at around about 12,000 feet.
	And really, it's a great, great cartridge.
	It's very efficient.
	And so check that one out.
	And then that has a big brother also, the 300 PRC, which is essentially a 300 Winchester Magnum without the belt.
	So there's still innovation coming on in traditional cartridges.
	And then we have the fallout from the Army's next generation squad weapons.
	program, which means that that has spawned a bunch of new cartridges as well.
	And that technology is going to be filtering into the commercial market over the next few years.
	It is an exciting time to be in the gun world.
	I'm a big fan of the .300 Blackout.
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	Yeah, so I'm not familiar, so it's like, what is the biggest six point, what did you call the unbelted one?
	65 PRC and building on that is a long action, 300 PRC.
	300 PRC, interesting.
	Interesting.
	I'll have to look into that.
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	Go have some fun.
	All right.
	Thanks.
	Cheers, mate.
	Bye.
	See you, Ted.
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	Title for that one.
	Yeah.
	And also Blackburn and Carapana.
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	The coolest new calibers.
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	The men who broke the military?
	Yes!
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	How Millie Failed.
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	It's funny when someone refers to him as Miley.
	I immediately think of something very different.
	Well, I've just been informed by John Sr.
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	Additionally, on my flight to Tulsa, I read the full indictment from John Durham of that lawyer working for Hillary Clinton.
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	How many times was Hillary Clinton's campaign mentioned in that 27-page indictment?
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	Forty?
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	I kept seeing, again, every paragraph, again, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
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	Forty-five times.
	I don't know, but I think I'm going to have to... Jeff.
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	You're the expert.
	You're the radio expert.
	I'm gonna write something about the indictment and everything I found, because I found it so very interesting.
	Should I do an analysis of the indictment on radio?
	Would that be bad radio?
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	That's what I thought.
	Exactly.
	Nobody's doing like a blow-by-blow because the thing about the Sussman indictment, and guys don't go anywhere, we're going to be discussing all of this with Joe DeGeneva, Victoria Tunsing, former US Attorney for Washington, former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer here in studio.
	He got his hands on, I don't know, whether he's got a stool pigeon on the inside.
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	Welcome, dear friends, to One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka, and our very special guests, dear friends of the show, your favorites.
	When we were on YouTube, before we were cancelled twice, if we had an interview with them, 500,000 views in a matter of hours, because they're truth-tellers, and that's what you guys want.
	And I think One of the last times they were here, we were watching the now infamous events of January 6th Live.
	Welcome in studio, Joe DeGeneva and Victoria Tansing.
	Good to see you.
	It's been too long.
	Much too long.
	We've been half and half in Florida, though.
	I know, you're living the high life.
	Free Florida, we call it.
	The free state of Florida.
	We have so many things, a long list of things to discuss, but let's go back in time to when you were in the studio as we were watching on the TV screens the events of January the 6th.
	And what was it that we commented to each other as we were watching it live?
	I said that when I was U.S.
	Attorney, I used to supervise all the demonstrations in the Capitol with the FBI, the Capitol Police, the Secret Service, and the D.C.
	Police.
	And as soon as we saw what was happening at the Capitol, we said, this is a catastrophic security failure.
	And that's what this has always been about.
	There was no perimeter, no legitimate perimeter, no defensive mechanisms, and some of the people were actually invited into the Capitol.
	And yeah, remember, we noticed that we watched them and they were walking within the rope lines.
	Right, they were like tourists.
	They were like, oh, that's a nice statue, walking through the rope lines.
	Some insurrection.
	Some insurrection.
	Stay within your lane.
	So we have a theme.
	Two big themes for our discussion today.
	Number one, given that we're watching the last two days, the Quote-unquote testimony or the propaganda on Capitol Hill.
	I want to talk about honor or lack thereof in this city.
	But let's begin.
	As U.S.
	Attorney, as somebody who's worked on Capitol Hill, intelligence advisor on the requisite committees for you, Victoria, let's talk about the dual judicial system we seem to have.
	Let's talk about the quote-unquote insurrection.
	There's one person, I was on Twitter, one person turned out, commented yesterday, Thousands of investigative leads.
	FBI agents crisscrossing the country, knocking on people's doors in Alaska to investigate the insurrection.
	Yet, not one individual arrested and put in solitary here in federal prisons.
	Not one has been charged under the Insurrection Act.
	How is that, Joe?
	Well, the reason no one has been charged with that is that that didn't happen on January the 6th, and the FBI itself has concluded that there was no grand conspiracy, there is no evidence of it, there was no insurrection.
	The fact is there was some trespassing, there was some destruction of property, there were people who should not have been in the chamber who were there, although they were given no Some of them were given access by Capitol Police officers.
	On camera?
	On camera.
	And then, of course, we have the unmitigated, horrific murder of Ashley Babbitt by an officer who obviously was not competent to possess a weapon and to use it under the circumstances that he did.
	An officer who, by the way, left his weapon unattended.
	In a Capitol bathroom.
	In a Capitol bathroom previously.
	And was reported and was disciplined for it.
	And whose identity was kept secret in a city that leaks like a sieve for six months, who then, in a very softball interview with Esther Holt, spoke about his own courage and the number of lives he saved from an unarmed woman called Ashley Babbitt.
	Victoria, how significant is it that of the various charges that have already been brought to court in the quote-unquote insurrection, almost every single case has to do with a charge of First, it's interrupting an official proceeding.
	It hardly sounds like an insurrection to me.
	Well, of course it isn't.
	There's just been no basis for that because the proceeding then went on.
	It continued later.
	For the proceeding, what about the people who were interrupting Brett Kavanaugh's hearing and came into the Capitol complaining and went all over the Supreme Court?
	Did they end up in solitary?
	No, no.
	They didn't even end up in any handcuffs or any kind of charges.
	But the people who lied in Brett Kavanaugh's hearing and got up, I mean, talk about that is really interfering with the justice system, coming in and making up stuff about a candidate.
	For office.
	So, no, there's such...
	And, of course, then we also go back to all the riots that occurred throughout the summer after Georgia, Florida.
	Portland, Seattle.
	Hundreds of officers injured.
	Dozens of Americans killed.
	But, as Merrick Garland said in his hearings, it's only if you attack a courthouse during the day that it counts.
	Right, after dark, it's not terrorism.
	Yes.
	And if you...
	And if you set it on fire, if it's after hours, you're not destroying the building at that point.
	Some of the most idiotic comments ever made by an Attorney General, I don't know what's happened to him since he became Attorney General, but it's obvious he has been co-opted completely by the left.
	This is not the Merrick Garland we knew.
	So what do you say to that?
	You know, we have three million listeners, and then plus all the people who watch us on Rumble, listen to the podcast.
	You know, you are true practitioners.
	You fight the monsters in the swamp, but you are practitioners.
	You are practicing lawyers.
	What is it you say to those who say, that's it, there is no blindfold on lady justice anymore, and we have a two-tier justice system in America?
	I think they're right, and I think it's a very disturbing development.
	I think it's a real threat to our Republican form of government.
	It's definitely a threat to the jury system.
	We know from cases that have... To make it not exculpatory, but to make it evidence against Carter Page, so a vice award could be issued.
	But his lawyer said he didn't mean to.
	He didn't mean to forge it.
	You have to remember that one.
	You have to remember that one.
	Well, it worked because the judge, Judge Boisberg, who's head of the FISA court, didn't seem to bother him at all.
	Gave him suspended sentence, community... And he's got his law license back.
	Talk about a dual standard.
	Rudy... Clinesmith has his law license back.
	Yes.
	But Rudy, who didn't do anything wrong, Yeah.
	Rudy Giuliani, right.
	Has had his law license suspended, whatever that means.
	It's an absolute outrage.
	On that note, please, as a favor to me, support Rudy.
	They're trying to strip him permanently of his law credentials.
	They want to bankrupt the man.
	They want to destroy him.
	He's an amazing American patriot.
	Please support him with whatever you can.
	Go to RudyGiulianiFreedomFund.com.
	That's RudyGiulianiFreedomFund.com.
	Let's forget the politics for a second.
	Let's just talk about the reality.
	Joe, what happens to lawyers usually if they forge official classified documents?
	Well, if you do that and you're working for the government, A, you're fired immediately.
	You cannot continue to maintain a position of public trust.
	You should be prosecuted if it was something that was filed with the court, which it was in this case.
	And then you should lose your law license.
	For good!
	Certainly, that would be an appropriate remedy.
	Again, this is another example of a double standard.
	There is no reason in the world, for example, for Cline Smith to be treated the way he was, and then have people from the January 6th, still in solitary confinement, people who did not do anything to justify solitary confinement.
	The federal courts have let us down.
	They have not sufficiently protected the rights of these people.
	Even with sufficient advocacy by good lawyers, it hasn't worked.
	It really creates an image Of a partial court.
	Of a court that is not neutral and detached the way we expect them to be.
	And I think it's doing grave damage to the judicial process, to the view of the courts in this country, and to the jury system.
	But I have a comment to make about January 6th, and I don't condone any of the conduct of the people who went outside the ropes.
	The people who committed misdemeanors.
	Stupid stuff, and went into the offices and put their feet up on the desk, and that is just juvenile behavior.
	But here's the problem, because we lived through it.
	When we were trying to get the truth out, About the problems with the election, with the 2020 election.
	We were muzzled.
	There was no place we could go, and that would happen to everybody.
	I put up on Twitter that I had an affidavit of a woman who was told just to ignore signatures if they didn't match.
	And it was, this is in disrepute.
	So people, and all these people use the media stuff much more than I do.
	And I can see where their frustration.
	I'm trained to fight it in an intellectual way.
	But a lot of these people aren't.
	They're trained to, hey, we're going to go fight like hell because we've been muzzled.
	Yeah.
	Well, we know that you will not be muzzled.
	You are fighters.
	and God bless you for everything you did since last November.
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	Okay, let's talk about the latest developments.
	Let's talk about the fact that I kind of lost faith in John Durham, in the U.S.
	attorney who was meant to investigate the origins of the Russia hoax.
	Just recently, two weeks ago, an indictment was made against an attorney called Sussman, who works for Perkins Coie, the law firm used by the Hillary Clinton campaign, an individual who's been charged with misrepresenting himself.
	I prefer the word lying to the FBI about who he is and who he was or was not representing.
	Does this mean anything?
	Because for me, Joe, this seems like another clinesmith, another peon individual, last minute indictment before the statute of limitations, you know, the least that Durham could do.
	Or could this be more significant?
	I read the indictment.
	The word conspiracy is used.
	Is that important?
	Yes, the indictment is very unusual in that usually in a false statements case like this, one or two pages is all that's necessary.
	This is a 27-page indictment which reads like a conspiracy indictment.
	Even though it doesn't charge a conspiracy, it lists a series of what are called overt acts committed by various people who could be charged in a conspiracy as active players.
	It reads as if he's preparing to do something else because it is so descriptive of the conduct of major players who he doesn't identify.
	You know, it's person one.
	But he does say Clinton campaign.
	Oh, yes.
	It's right in there.
	Page one, page two, page three.
	There is no longer any doubt that the Russia conspiracy hoax was created and propagated and paid for by the Clinton campaign, by their senior campaign managers.
	They put it out, and the media took it because they wanted to take it, because they hated Donald Trump, and they decided, regardless of its truth, they were going to spread it.
	And they did that for an entire four, five, and six years.
	Victoria, is this a fig leaf, or do you have greater expectations from Durham?
	Well, no, I agree with Joe.
	Reading the 27 pages really gives you pause as to what was going on and makes one frightened.
	I thought one of the most damning allegations in the indictment was tech executive number one.
	CEO, technical CEO number one.
	Yes.
	And he wanted a job in the Clinton administration.
	He didn't want a job ever if Trump were elected.
	And he had access to information, and I don't know how anything technical works, but he had access to information that other people don't have because he was tech CEO number one.
	Right.
	It appeared that he fed this information to Sussman so that it looked more believable, that it was really accurate.
	And that's frightening because they can do this to any of us.
	They can feed propaganda via their social media platforms or their networks against anybody.
	He should be indicted.
	So here's the question for you, Joe.
	Is it possible, given what we've witnessed, that... I'm going to use a phrase from a Hungarian philosopher who used this to describe Hungary after the fall of communism, where nobody was being arrested, nobody was being indicted for the crimes of the last forty years.
	He said, have we become a land of no consequences?
	Is it possible?
	So, yes, we have the Sassman indictment.
	Got it.
	But is it possible Let's posit that John Durham is a man of honour.
	Can a man of honour do the right thing given the extent of corruption in Washington DC?
	He has to.
	He has to do the right thing.
	In fact, this is a seminal moment.
	If Merrick Garland does not continue the funding for John Durham, which he has the power to shut off, then we will have reached a watershed moment in a horrible type of corruption, which is the complete politicization of the Department of Justice.
	Durham is perfectly capable of doing what needs to be done and has to be done legally.
	I have no doubt as to his bona fides and his good faith and his honor.
	The issue will be what types of roadblocks will be placed in front of him now, now that he has done this indictment.
	It seems to me that if you're Garland, if you try to step in front of this now, after he's laid out the Hillary Clinton card and the Clinton campaign and all of that, you bring down, if 2022 happens and the Republicans take over either house, Merrick Garland's life is going to be miserable.
	He can't stand in front of this and stop it.
	He just can't.
	And if he does... But he seems like such a weak man.
	Watching him testify, he seems so weak.
	He's not a public figure.
	You see, he's a judge.
	And when you watch him, you see a person who's used to being closeted and cloistered.
	He doesn't enjoy public life.
	And there's a reason for it.
	He's not good at it.
	No, but Merrick was never like this.
	I've argued in front of him.
	He was a thoughtful judge.
	He seems like a puppet now.
	He's changed.
	It's quite remarkable.
	If you would go into court and watch him during arguments, he would be thoughtful.
	He would ask good questions.
	He wouldn't commit himself.
	He wasn't left.
	He wasn't right.
	Was he a good judge?
	Yes, and he was a moderate.
	And so he's been captured by the ideology of the Biden administration.
	You know, what's really fascinating is Biden, who was this pragmatic kind of goofball in the Senate, has now become basically Hugo Chavez.
	Yeah, an ideologue.
	Yeah.
	The reason that Obama nominated Merrick Garland was because he wanted to put it up to the Republicans, hey, now I've got a moderate here.
	Stop this one.
	Trust me.
	Stop this one.
	Hillary had been elected.
	She never would have put in Merrick Garland because he was not, at that time, left enough for her.
	And whether he's now trying to make himself appear left so that he's not— Could he be running for Breyer's seat?
	Yes.
	See, that's how we see it.
	That's how we see the politics.
	Let's tease this out.
	Let's pull this thread.
	If Durham has honor, if Merrick Garland as AG can't stop him, where does it go?
	Because we've had this discussion with intelligence professionals, the former chief of staff of the DoD who worked for Devin Nunes on Capitol Hill, Who are the prime actors?
	Was it Brennan first who told Comey, you follow this closer than anybody, guys, so where should the boot land?
	Well, it's pretty clear from when When Durham alludes to a meeting that took place out of town, meeting across the river in Virginia, probably at the CIA at Langley, he's probably pointing to the fact that people went there and did the same thing that they did with Baker over there.
	Shared intelligence.
	Now, I must say, Brennan, when he heard about Hillary's scheme, reported it to the White House and to the FBI as a criminal referral.
	Now, why did Brennan do that for all of his strange, strange machinations?
	When he heard that this was happening, he did something out of character.
	He complained about it to the White House, and he complained about it to the FBI.
	Now, Comey buried it.
	So to me, the person who has the most to fear from this case is Comey.
	I think he's the one, I think, who did the most damage, most of the time, and who could have prevented it.
	When you read through that indictment, there are a lot of people who are not identified, but who are key players.
	And it seems to me that there's got to be space for Comey in here somewhere.
	Well, we have to pull that thread even further.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	So, let's pull the thread even further.
	You just mentioned that Brennan makes a criminal referral to the FBI when he hears about the Clinton smear campaign that ends up as being the Russia hoax.
	Any supposition as to why somebody who voted for the Communist Party, who was a political hack right hand of Obama, was that a CYA effort?
	See, that's what I think it was, because he seemed to have participated.
	Well, the targeting in London of George Papadopoulos, this quote-unquote FBI investigator called Azra Turk, who doesn't exist, that has to be a CIA op, so maybe he just was worried.
	I think that that is an excellent, excellent interpretation of what occurred.
	So he was worried.
	I think he was worried, but the fact that he did it is so bizarre.
	It was absolutely unnecessary for him to do that, because it wasn't going to stop anything.
	Nobody was focusing on him at that point, other than the public discourse about everybody who was involved in this nutty thing.
	But I do.
	I agree with Victoria.
	It was a CYA.
	But you said Comey's the guy who's really in trouble.
	Why?
	Because he buries it?
	Well, not just that.
	I mean, Comey's activities from start to finish have always been beyond... I mean, he's just in the middle of this thing.
	It's always about Comey.
	It's always about Comey.
	And his evil intent throughout this process was to subvert a presidency.
	And he didn't have any evidence whatsoever of Trump being involved with the Russians.
	He knew that was all nonsense.
	And that's why, when he got that referral, from Brennan.
	Whatever Brennan's motivation, he buried it because it threw a wrench into Comey's concept of how he could destroy a president by this fraudulent notion of a collusion with the Russians.
	You guys have been fighting the good fight for years.
	I have to ask you, Victoria, have you ever seen any department head or FBI director, anybody else, joke publicly after leaving office about setting up A person of as high a rank as a National Security Advisor.
	Have you ever seen that?
	No, it turned your stomach.
	And what bothered me as much was that the audience laughed.
	The audience laughed.
	That's the swamp, right?
	That's the Y in New York.
	Whatever that famous Y is, that's where he did that.
	Yeah, if it had been a more organized White House, I never would have done it.
	I never would have sent two agents without Mirandizing Mike to get him tripped up with a transcript of a call.
	That's a guy who's full of himself.
	He's on stage and he's doing a schtick and he's so unprofessional.
	And so out of his element that he actually thinks that that's cool.
	Yeah.
	But that was the self-delusion of Comey.
	Right.
	He created an image of himself and he was living up to it by being snarky about something that's quite important.
	And he was also doing that at a time when he thought there would never be the discussion we're having today.
	He didn't believe there would ever be a Sussman indictment.
	A Durham indictment.
	A Durham indictment showing that Sussman did.
	And so now, isn't it interesting how much you haven't heard from Mr. Comey recently?
	How quiet he has been.
	This is true.
	He has been literally silent.
	The only person In this whole mix, who's been publicly tweeting, has been Mark Elias, the guy who left Perkins Coie, and in the midst of the Jewish holidays, he sends out this tweet about blessings for everyone and all this sort of stuff.
	Completely never done anything like that in his life.
	My sense is, he feels the heat.
	I think Mark Elias is another person that Durham has to be looking at.
	Thank you for mentioning Mark Elias.
	We're going to dedicate at least an hour, if not more, of our show to Mark Elias.
	Why?
	For those who are not familiar with his name, let me just dangle a little morse, a little tidbit for you.
	Mark Elias is not only a key player in all the dirty tricks, Russia collusion, Russia hoax and everything else, and Vinderman and the fake whistleblowers.
	Mark Elias is the key individual in the election fraud campaign of last year.
	This is the man who facilitated, for example, just one little factoid, and then you can look it up yourselves.
	We'll discuss it here on America First.
	We'll find some great one-on-one guests who made sure people like, oh, another tech CEO, Mark Zuckerberg, dropped $400 million that we know of To send private citizens in to run the election in certain Democrat districts.
	To fund ballot drop boxes in Democrat strongholds but not Republican districts.
	Mark Elias is right at the epicenter of it all.
	So it's not just Russia collusion, not just Perkins Coie, not just the Russia hoax, not just Vindman and the fake whistleblowers.
	It is the theft of an election that also centers on the desk of Mark Elias.
	Thank you for mentioning that.
	Fabulous job.
	Okay.
	He was recently sanctioned by the Fifth Circuit.
	Really?
	I did not know that.
	For pleadings that misled the court.
	And what cost did he pay?
	Any?
	I'm actually not sure what the opening sanction was.
	What we read was it was just upheld.
	They appealed the sanction and it was upheld.
	Okay, let's move to... I think it was a monetary fine.
	By the way, one subject I'd like to talk about, and that is Congress out of control, the Democrats in Congress out of control.
	And it's related to January 6th, on one issue, and that is the subpoenas.
	Well, look, for me, let me put it in layman's terms and then I'll allow you to fill in the collar.
	As experts.
	For me, what I see in Congress, allied with the deep state and the bureaucracy, is simply the following.
	the criminalization of being a conservative.
	Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
	Thank Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Oh yes, oh yes.
	It's just criminal.
	You disagree with them, therefore you're a criminal.
	And you will be subpoenaed.
	But you know what?
	They can also subpoena your phone records.
	How do I know that, Seb?
	Because my phone records were secretly subpoenaed a long time ago.
	By Adam Schiff.
	By Adam Schiff.
	And AT&T turned them over.
	John Solomons.
	The same one.
	Rudy Giuliani.
	Rudy, Jay Sekulow.
	Jay Sekulow.
	They don't have to have a crime.
	The President's Attorney.
	Devin Nunes, former chairman of the Intelligence Committee.
	Not a peep out of the Washington Post or the New York Times.
	As I said to one reporter there, you know, the Washington Post hates Trump more than it loves the Constitution.
	Not a peep when they were published.
	Now, when the Justice Department and the Washington Post was crying that their reporters got a pen register, which just means you see the numbers.
	It's just a number of who they called.
	Under a valid investigation going on for a leak of classified information.
	But the Congress doesn't have to have a crime.
	They can just say, I want Sebastian Gorka's phone records.
	And they'll give them to them.
	Of course, big tech will.
	And then they don't have to keep them secret, which is what if it's a grand jury and it has to go through a judge.
	You have to keep it secret.
	Congress doesn't have to go through a judge.
	They just say, hey, AT&T.
	They just find a TV camera and talks about it.
	And what happens is the companies are told that they cannot notify the person whose records are being seized so that they can file a court proceeding to quash it.
	Because that's the way you could challenge their authority and they know that.
	So they send these letters which say you cannot inform the people that you've gotten this subpoena.
	And then later, months later, which happened in Victoria, you get a letter from AT&T saying we are notifying you that eight months ago we were asked to turn over your records and we did.
	And Judicial Watch sued for it, and Adam Schiff said he was above the law.
	He had congressional immunity.
	This has to be frightening to people, because I talked to some former members on the Republican side, and they said they've never done something like this.
	Never seen this before.
	Never seen something like this.
	Let me talk about something personal that is even more troubling.
	So you know me, before I joined the administration, my wife and I, we had a company, we worked very closely with various parts of the government, military, intelligence community and the FBI, providing training on how to understand the jihadi threat.
	I traveled the world, I traveled the nation, lecturing on ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
	And it was a high honor for me.
	Going from one RA, one FBI field office to another, giving a lecture, getting the challenge coin in the patch of the local bureau RA or field office.
	If the FBI knocked on my door now, I'd probably tell them to go and talk to my lawyers, Joe and Victoria.
	That's not what I felt five years ago.
	Am I an outlier, or should all Americans be worried?
	Oh, I don't think you're an outlier at all.
	I think the Bureau has fallen in the estimation of the American people as a result of the mismanagement of the Bureau, not only by Comey, but by his successor, Christopher Wray, who is a lackluster, empty suit, who creates no confidence whatsoever, appears to be wishy-washy, interested in only one thing, Staying out of trouble being
	I mean, just the way his testimony the other day in the Larry Nassar hearing about the sexual abuse of those women in the American gymnast program children watching the FBI director testify.
	It was like watching a child.
	So so let's be clear here for those.
	You know, I don't know if any everybody has the time to watch this.
	This is the Bureau's director who, when challenged in an open session in Congress, why did the FBI not do anything about the credible reports of child abuse repeatedly by the Olympic doctor?
	Ray says, I don't know.
	At that point.
	He didn't even find out.
	How can you possibly give that answer?
	I mean, it's like Mallorca saying he doesn't know how many.
	How many illegal aliens?
	He knew immediately because every one of those encounters is electronically registered at Homeland Security.
	They have the data within hours.
	He was lying.
	And see, this is the other thing.
	The combination of visible incompetence from somebody like Chris Wray, who's obviously lying.
	He knows why the guy was fired, the FBI agent who mishandled the symposium.
	But he should have been prosecuted.
	He should have been prosecuted for obstruction of justice.
	Why didn't Wray make that happen?
	The answer is, he's trying to protect the institution.
	But you watch all of these people, the generals, the three generals who testified, the two generals who testified.
	And a retired general.
	And a retired general, Austin.
	The bottom line is, people are watching incompetence and dishonesty on display.
	But it's always, as you said, the priority is to protect the institution, not the mission.
	When Chris Wray was the Assistant Attorney General in the Bush administration, we took to him evidence, and this is the Republican administration, and we were giving him evidence about a corrupt Republican U.S.
	attorney, that he was threatening people with exposing their sex lives, which he had watched on, you know, if somebody had a date out of wedlock or marriage.
	They didn't say what he wanted them to say before the grand jury.
	He was blackmailing them for testimony?
	Yes.
	Yes, he was.
	And then he became a federal judge under Trump.
	What?
	Trump.
	We tried to tell McMahon.
	What did Ray do when you warned Ray?
	What happened?
	Nothing.
	He wouldn't do anything.
	He wouldn't do anything.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	He was the assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division.
	He was a wuss then and he's a wuss now.
	And when Chris Chris Christie recommended him to be FBI director.
	Nobody knew that that had occurred, and Trump chose him, and it was one of his biggest mistakes.
	Did you try and warn?
	We didn't know about it.
	No, no, I warned somebody.
	Somebody who was at the White House.
	I said, you can't.
	You can't do Chris Christie.
	And they said, he's not going to make it.
	That's just for show.
	That's just to please Chris Christie.
	And bingo.
	As I've said, not every day, but almost every day on this show for the last almost three years, I don't care what your issue is.
	I don't care whether it's the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, the right to life, social media, censorship, cancel culture.
	The only thing that matters, the primary objective If my old boss runs, and I know he's going to run, his personnel policy.
	If we can win that election, he will be the GOP candidate, if we can win it without the election fraud happening on the left.
	It's about who we put in place.
	Those 4,000 positions cannot have people who are cowards, wusses, or seditionists like Vindman, like General Kelly, who actually sabotaged the will of the American people by sabotaging the man that 63 million Americans chose.
	So I think the great Ronald Reagan said it the first time, personnel is policy, and is it ever.
	Okay.
	You are an inspiration, both of you, because you always fight and you never give up.
	Will you... I don't know how to tackle this question, but Talk a little bit, if you want, about the cost to you of your commitment to the truth, and then, as a codicel, tell us why you still fight.
	Let's take the second part first.
	We fight because we believe in America and we believe in the system of equal justice under the law.
	That's why we are so deeply offended by the double standard of justice which started under Trump with the treatment of Roger Stone and people like him.
	The outrageous raids on people's homes The outrageous use of force and power to embarrass people.
	The use of what are called in terrorum tactics by grand juries and prosecutors.
	To me what Mueller started and what he did and what he propagated was a disgrace.
	It did grave disservice to the Department of Justice as an institution, and I think it has sullied it and hurt it very, very deeply.
	Thank you.
	Is the swap fixable?
	What's it going to take?
	What's it going to take?
	Well, it's pretty tough.
	When you have a bureaucracy of career Democrats, 90% of government employees are career Democrats, plus many of them are members of unions, which are all democratically oriented.
	The ability of those people to harm people through improper government action, their ability to make things not happen, to stop things, is great.
	Fixing this government is almost impossible.
	It takes the type of president Like Trump was.
	He was underway, but he didn't have the right people with him to do what they needed to do, which was, as soon as you come in, you should have fired Comey.
	After you do that, you get everybody out of the NSC, everybody, everybody out of the National Security Council, and everybody out of the Justice Department, and you get the people in there who are loyal to you right away.
	If you don't do that, if you don't take control of the bureaucracy by its neck, And you tell people, if you can't deal with this, leave, because you'll be moved out of your jobs to someplace else.
	We're just not going to tolerate resistance.
	He didn't understand how to do it, and he didn't have people around him.
	And you also need a Congress that's going to be, a Republican Congress, that's going to be just as strong, because Trump didn't have that when he had control of the Congress.
	And then you do agency, agency by agency, you restrict their budgets, you restrict their ability to do things.
	You have to have control of both houses of Congress and the presidency in order to get this system under control.
	The Republicans, I would text Mark Meadows and say, doesn't anyone up there know how to spell subpoena?
	I mean, they would write letters.
	Letters, yes.
	Paul Ryan.
	Adding off with GOP letters.
	Paul Ryan refused to allow subpoenas to be issued in major investigations, and he is directly responsible for the propagation of many myths.
	And Trey Gowdy.
	And Trey Gowdy.
	Trey Gowdy wouldn't do anything.
	Oh, Trey Gowdy's a fraud.
	Trey Gowdy's an utter fraud.
	Just, you know, 11 hours of Bengals with Hillary in front of him, and he gets what?
	Zip.
	Nothing.
	I gave him.
	Squanzoli.
	I gave him the two questions to ask her.
	Here's two questions that he should have asked her.
	Do you know how many security people available to Ambassador Stevens when he came in May of 2012 to Libya?
	Answer, 38.
	She either knows it or she doesn't.
	She should know it.
	And how many were available when he went to Benghazi?
	Nine.
	She took them away.
	After hundreds of emails from him to her requesting security support.
	She wanted Libya to be a new Beirut.
	She did.
	No, she wanted it to be, you know, this is Paris.
	We came, we killed.
	We're so sophisticated.
	Alright guys, I could continue for hours and hours and hours.
	We're just going to close with some good news.
	At least a little Philip for your spirit.
	A little clip from my old boss about the way ahead.
	God bless you all.
	We will not bend.
	We will not break.
	We will not yield.
	We will never give in.
	We will never give up.
	We will never back down.
	We will never, ever surrender.
	My fellow Americans, our movement is far from over.

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