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Aug. 20, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Americans in danger in Afghanistan

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	The End
	The End And it was so bad
	I'm just going to let somebody else summarize it for you.
	This is the National Security Correspondent for Fox News, Jennifer Griffin, in probably the most candid thing she has ever said.
	The whole reason that U.S.
	military cannot leave the airport to go and rescue any Americans who are out in Kabul when British and French special forces can do so is that they don't have any partners left.
	They don't have partners there who can help them safely navigate.
	So I don't see how you can say that with a straight face, that they're going to be over-the-horizon capabilities to see the terror threat in Afghanistan when this is all said and done.
	The damage done to international relations, international standing.
	We heard, as you said, from international leaders around the world that NATO allies were gobsmacked at the sudden announcement and withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
	And I remember at the time when when shortly after the Biden administration took over and the Secretary Blinken went over to tell NATO allies that it wasn't a discussion with allies.
	It was we're leaving.
	And that left other countries, and I remember when the Italians, the French, had to make quick decisions to get their people out, and they were shuttering their embassies over the summer.
	There's still no good explanation for why the SIV process was going so slowly.
	That was a State Department-run effort, and we have talked to, we have documented the SIV issue for four years, and there has been Slow rolling and and ridiculous amounts of paperwork and 14 steps only in the last 24 hours.
	The reason you're seeing 6,000 people be flown out on US C-17 planes is because they stopped asking for all those paperworks and they're now flying refugees out.
	So the reason you see a bottleneck in nine hours where US C-17s haven't been able to take off from Kabul and get any more Afghans out of Afghanistan is because There are no third-party countries willing to allow U.S.
	flights to land, and those are not SIVs on board those planes.
	They're refugees, and they are not being given permission by this White House to come straight to the United States.
	So this is an alternate reality that was just presented from the White House, and I just feel very, very, a great deal of empathy, not only for the people of Afghanistan, But for our poor Marines and 82nd Airborne who have been sent back into the airport after having been pulled out unceremoniously, having to lift those babies over the walls and see the scenes of humanitarian disaster.
	I've had my differences with Jennifer Griffin in the past, but kudos for her.
	It is an alternate reality.
	We just heard President Biden, the man who bears the title President, declare from the podium at the West Wing.
	Let's talk about the truth.
	Let's talk about the administration.
	They're trying to blame the administration I served in, the administration Kash Patel served in as Deputy Chief of Counterterrorism in the White House and Chief of Staff in the Defense Department.
	He has written a piece for the New York Post saying, I ran Team Trump's Afghan withdrawal.
	Biden's attempt to blame us is just sad.
	Kash Patel is with us.
	Kash, is this all your fault, what we are witnessing, the catastrophe in Kabul?
	Thanks for having me, Seb.
	I appreciate it.
	Of course, it's my fault.
	It's my fault and anyone else who had the audacity to implement our Commander-in-Chief, President Trump's campaign pledge and promise.
	To the American people.
	And it's still our fault, even though we did it in a smart, conditions-based manner, which cost no lives or casualties.
	And then you fast forward and you have the juxtaposition of the failure of zero planning by Biden.
	Was there any scenario when you were there as chief of staff in the Pentagon, in the Trump administration, was there any contingency planning whereby you split the mission and you said, we can either protect the embassy or we can protect Bagram airstrip, but we can't do both.
	Was that one of the scenarios?
	Because that is what the Biden administration is doing right now.
	And Seb, you know this all too well.
	The idea that an administration would come in and shut down the command and control center, our brain center in Bagram Air Force Base in Afghanistan, which was controlled by nobody else other than U.S.
	Special Forces and U.S.
	military and our allies, is just a shocking, shockingly poor national security decision.
	And it just goes to show you that the lack of planning that they had.
	How can you turn off the brains of our Afghan policy and operational center and then say, oh, but we're going to get every American out.
	Don't worry.
	We're going to figure it out as we go along.
	It's just one of the most tragic missteps in national security policy history.
	And I know you know it all too well.
	And it's just I can't believe we're even talking about something like this.
	Well, we have to.
	We're talking to millions of people across the nation on the Salem Radio Network.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Trump.
	This is the Salem Radio Network.
	So let's continue the analysis.
	Thank you for joining us, Kash Patel.
	When we hear administration officials say right now from the podium, Heads of departments, four-star generals, we don't know whether it's 11,000 Americans or 40,000 Americans when we hear the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, who was hunting down white supremacists in the U.S.
	military until yesterday, say that we will try to get everybody out, but we probably won't be able to.
	What is your reaction as the man who was inside the belly of the beast writing the plans for the Trump administration?
	Well, you nailed it right on the headset.
	This is what happens when you, as a President Biden, instructs your national security apparatus and takes their cues from the media to say the biggest national security threat to the Department of Defense is white supremacy in the Pentagon and DoD.
	And you and I both know that is just abjectly false.
	But when you tell three million employees, servicemen and members of our U.S.
	military That stop focusing on Afghanistan, on Iran, on Russia and China and start focusing on what we tell you to do.
	And when you tell our intelligence community to the collection priority needs to be white supremacy and racist, motivated violence and domestic terrorism, then they stop collecting on things that matter, like Afghanistan.
	And what happens is they don't create a plan based on intelligence and ground level support.
	They create a plan based on the politicization of national security apparatus.
	And that's what Joe Biden has done.
	And Lloyd Austin, let me just say this about him.
	Remember who was the central commander, the commanding general of CENTCOM, when ISIS rose and came to power?
	Yes.
	One and the same Lloyd Austin.
	The man who trained that militia to fight the Syrian jihadis, all of whom except four were killed after he trained them and millions were expended.
	We've got only a minute left.
	Watch the plot against the president, PATPMovie.com, to find out more about This great patriot Kash Patel.
	Kash, when we see the French, the French and the British going out rescuing their citizens outside of the airport and the Americans who have more special forces than most nations have soldiers say we can't do it, your response?
	It's because President Biden does not want to do it because they didn't prepare for it.
	And they did not prepare to use our allies and leverage the situation because they don't even know where 10,000 American citizens in Afghanistan are.
	That is a grave tragedy.
	And the fact that we have no plans to rescue them, except Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor, going out and saying, please call us and come find us in Kabul is outrageous.
	We go get Americans.
	We don't wait for them to come to us.
	All right, read his article, the truth about what's happening in Afghanistan, what the Trump plan was, how the Biden administration has betrayed not only our allies, but the Americans trapped there.
	It's in the New York Post.
	We will post it right now on our Twitter and Facebook feeds.
	Keep doing what you do.
	Let's get Kash Patel back.
	I know he's got some great, very exciting plans to keep fighting for America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We've only just started.
	It's Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	Amazing guests, including Lara Logan with us.
	It's jihadi analysts Jeff Cousins and Congressman Lee Zeldin.
	Thank you.
	Mic's on.
	There we go.
	The b-roll, I like the way you used the b-roll, but that quality was pretty crummy.
	Is that the format we're getting it in, or is that internet b-roll?
	What is that?
	That is footage that Casio sent us.
	Okay, we've got to be careful.
	It's a little bit better.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Okay.
	Tell Amy we'll take her after Kirpin, okay?
	You good?
	Okay.
	Jeff?
	Hey, it's Jeff from Sebastian Gordy's.
	Yeah, Jeff Gordy's.
	On the phone.
	You just coughing?
	Good, hang on a second.
	Choking.
	That's the worst feeling.
	Mr. Kuppin!
	Hey, how are you?
	Good.
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	�� And I'm going to tee up Fauci.
	Fauci, cut.
	Fourteen.
	Yep.
	Montage.
	Montauk.
	Jeff, will you get cash in studio for a one-to-one when I'm back?
	Jeff, step down.
	He's not there.
	I'll let him know.
	Okay.
	35 seconds. Standing by.
	Bye. 10 seconds.
	The Truth.
	The whole truth.
	Nothing but the truth.
	That's Dr. G's specialty.
	America first.
	It's so sad.
	I could just spend the next three hours reading texts I have received, DMs.
	I'm going to share one from a colonel in the Marine Corps, but here's a very short one.
	It's a DM from a former... I'm going to mention names because these guys...
	They could be risking their lives.
	This is a former Nepalese officer that I trained when I worked for the Defense Department in D.C.
	How are you, sir?
	What do you have to say about what's happening in Afghanistan?
	Why do we repeat mistakes?
	The cost of political blunder is so high.
	Yes, indeed it is.
	All right, we're going to dedicate most of the show to these issues.
	We have a very special guest for the final hour of the show, a true expert on the international jihadi movement.
	We're going to talk to Congressman Lee Zeldin.
	We're going to talk to Lara Logan, that incredible, intrepid reporter.
	But I have to focus on other issues as well, because we can't lose sight of what's happening here in America.
	We have the vaccine mandates, the remaskings, We have the unbelievable continuation of this fascistic tendency from bureaucrats.
	The lead one, of course, being Antony Fauci, the man who knows no flip-flop that he can't try.
	Play cut.
	There has not been any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a considerable period of time has any deleterious effects.
	There are unintended consequences.
	People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
	And can you get some schmutz sort of thing inside there?
	Of course.
	You do not need to wear a mask indoors if, in fact, You've been vaccinated.
	Good that you're vaccinated, but in a situation where you have people indoors, particularly crowded, you should wear a mask.
	So even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a mask.
	If in fact you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, you are protected, and you do not need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors.
	Looks like he's a science denier.
	Let's talk to a man who doesn't deny science.
	He's been one of the bravest truth-tellers in all of this insanity.
	He is the president of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
	Welcome back to America First, Phil Kirpin.
	Hey, great to be with you, and wasn't that crystal clear from Fauci?
	I mean, wasn't that easy to follow?
	Yeah, mask, no mask, mask, vaccinated, vaccinated, no mask, triple mask.
	Unless you're at a ballgame.
	Maybe goggles.
	Unless you're at a ballgame with him, then you don't need a mask, correct?
	Uh, that's correct, yes.
	Okay, so Phil... And also when he testified, did you see the video of the time he testified on Capitol Hill and the second he felt the cameras off?
	Yes.
	He pulled the masks off when the cameras were off.
	That's who he is.
	Phil, I thought there would be a stage naïve old me that maybe a year and a year and a half in That Americans, especially parents, would take the time to look into the information for themselves and that there'd just be mass non-compliance when they saw the truth about masks and about vaccines.
	It looks to me as if I was sorely mistaken and things are getting worse.
	You are following them across the country.
	Are things getting worse when it comes to bureaucrats denying science and denying our rights?
	What's the latest snapshot?
	Well, things have become completely polarized politically, and so if you are in a liberal area, it is a very high likelihood that your children will be masked eight hours a day in school, despite the fact that there is no scientific evidence that this is beneficial, and considerable evidence that it is harmful, educationally and for mental and physical health.
	And unfortunately, if you are in a liberal area of a more conservative state, unless you've got a statewide ban on such mandates, you will probably be facing it as well.
	And that's kind of the big flashpoint now, because you've got the liberal cities in some of the big conservative states, especially Florida and Texas being the largest ones, where they've said there's a parental opt-out by law if the parent doesn't want the child in a mask, even if there's a local mandate.
	You can opt out of it, and that simple act of choice is driving liberals insane, essentially, and they're begging the White House to somehow contrive a way to overrule those governors and allow parents have no say and everyone to be forcibly masked.
	It's such a ridiculous situation, because they've produced no compelling evidence of any benefit.
	of forced child masking, they've had a year and a half.
	And they've done no studies, they have no evidence, they have nothing to support their position except the force of compulsion. - So I'm not the guy who follows these things every single day like you do.
	The one thing that I try to share with everybody from Mark Macri, the doctor at Johns Hopkins, is the mortality rate for children with COVID.
	It's not 5%, not 1%, not half a percent.
	It is 0.05%.
	Your child has more chance of dying from the flu, and we don't mask children during the flu season.
	That's the one thing I want to share with everybody to make them understand why they shouldn't comply.
	What else is it, Phil Kirpin, That people aren't being told is being hidden from them and that they must know for the health of themselves and their children?
	Well, I think the point that you just made is a really critical one.
	This is a virus that we now know is extremely dangerous for specific people.
	Very old people, people who are medically frail, are basically the, you know, people who are very, very overweight.
	Those are the people who have quite a bit to fear from this virus.
	Healthy, younger people, and especially children, it is not an extraordinarily dangerous virus.
	It's comparable to other normal viruses, and to your point, for children in particular, the chances, if you get this virus as a child, the chances of dying from it are five times less than the chances of dying from the swine flu when we had the Obama-Biden administration, and they were not calling for extraordinary measures.
	They were quite the opposite.
	They were kind of saying, don't overreact, don't close schools, that kind of thing.
	So we've lost all sense of proportionality when it comes to our young people.
	We put them through an extraordinarily disruptive time.
	And last year, one could argue, I didn't like the argument, but last year one could argue, well yes, but we're doing it to protect their family members, their grandparents.
	They're not at risk themselves, but they could pass it on to someone else.
	Well, I think we're far enough into this now.
	Everyone who wants the vaccine has it.
	We've done everything we can do.
	We have highly effective treatments as well.
	We've done everything we can do.
	To limit the risk to those high-risk people, I think we need to give low-risk people, and especially children, normal life back.
	Follow this man.
	He's giving you the data every single day.
	Twitter at Kerpen.
	That's at K-E-R-P-E-N.
	Last minute we have with you, Phil.
	What do people need to know about the vaccines that the mainstream media and the government will not tell them?
	Well, I think that the vaccines are showing very little effect for stopping transmission.
	So the whole idea of vaccine passports or vaccine requirements, I find ridiculous because there's no benefit to other people of any significance of someone having the vaccine.
	Is there a benefit to the individual who gets it?
	Yes, we're still seeing a considerable reduction in hospitalization death risk.
	So especially for older people who are in a high-risk category, the vaccine, I believe, has a lot more benefit than it has cost.
	And that's why 90% of seniors got the vaccine.
	People act in their best interest.
	And I think that instead of browbeating people who choose not to get it, we should celebrate the fact that among high-risk groups, and in particular among the elderly, we do have very high uptake.
	I do not see anything in the data yet saying that we need a third shot, contrary to Biden.
	That looked to me just like a subject changer from Afghanistan and a totally bizarre backwards thing to do, to say we can't do it in Sudan.
	and FDA will look into it later.
	Follow the data.
	Don't be a science denier.
	He's on Twitter at K-E-R-P-E-N.
	Thank you for being a truth teller, Phil Kirpin.
	back with your calls here on America First.
	Clear.
	Good job.
	All right, you wanted to do American financing here?
	I do.
	I do.
	That's a balance of nature.
	It's been a while since you've done one of those, so just to remind you.
	Mm-hmm. Charge!
	You liking the toys that they have in that studio?
	Rest in peace.
	Rest in peace.
	I recognize that one.
	That's a good one.
	That's great.
	Reminds me of a toy gun I had when I was a kid that, like, you press the trigger and every time you did it would be, like, a different gunshot sound effect.
	Like, machine gun, space laser, magnum pistol.
	Space laser!
	And then if you pressed it enough times, you would, and cycle through each sound, it would play every single sound effect in one long loop.
	And it sounded so good.
	We need more space lasers!
	Space lasers.
	I miss that toy.
	That was one of my favorite toys as a kid.
	Can you block the lines?
	Yep.
	The lines are blocked and the lines are full.
	Lara doesn't have a book, right?
	Um... I don't think so.
	Not that I know of.
	Do we know the title of the special yet?
	You got the email about this Fox special, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Sacrificing Afghanistan is, I think, what it's called.
	Let me open that.
	Oh, actually...
	Airs Sunday, I believe.
	Can you play me audio cut 16?
	Joe Biden, you're not a president.
	You're a piece of s***.
	Thousands of Americans are stuck over there in Afghanistan and you're letting the Taliban kick your ass while you're lecturing governors about masks and vaccines.
	Do your job.
	Bring these Americans home.
	That's good.
	All right, I'm going to tee that up before I go to a call.
	All right, sounds good.
	That's good.
	You got audio from the Iowa State Fair in the background.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're getting a copyright strike by the Iowa State Fair.
	Uh-oh.
	There are worse things to be copyright struck by, I suppose.
	There was a video she shared somewhere.
	I don't know if it was Twitter or not.
	I think she has one strike left there.
	Hey, do you guys know if we have an extra mouse?
	Thank you.
	What's that?
	John needs a mouse.
	Does anybody have an extra mouse?
	Um... No, we'll just have to order one.
	For what's he need it for?
	I don't think he actually needs it for a job thing.
	thing.
	I think it just needs it for personal use right now.
	Yeah.
	Alright.
	All right.
	Now he's just gonna deal with it.
	45 seconds.
	Standby.
	teeing up the audio cut.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	We are back with your calls.
	It's Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything.
	I haven't even given out the phone number, and the call board is absolutely full.
	Let's start with Amy in Colorado.
	Amy, welcome aboard.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	It's a true honor to speak with you.
	Very kind.
	What brings you to our show today?
	Well, I just want to brag on my husband a little bit, if you'll allow me.
	I've been a military spouse for 24 years.
	My husband's a command sergeant major.
	The people who actually make the army run, okay?
	It's not the officers.
	It's the sergeant majors.
	It's the senior warrants.
	They're the people that actually make our military work.
	Sorry, Amy.
	Carry on.
	Oh, I would agree with you 100%.
	But my husband spent two years in Afghanistan away from his two year old child at the time.
	And his unit earned medals because they fought to bring back equipment and men from snipers in a valley in Afghanistan and he almost lost his life there.
	So they didn't hand over their equipment to the Taliban like Biden is doing?
	No, and that's what is so infuriating, Dr. Gorka, is seeing Joe Biden go on vacation, not care about the people.
	They don't even know how many Americans are leaving behind or who.
	And the Taliban has our equipment now.
	And he's a dereliction of duty, in my opinion.
	Um, and we'd be foolish not to try and impeach this man because he cares nothing about our troops.
	I don't believe a word he said this afternoon.
	I think that's a fabulous idea.
	I've been pushing the impeachment thing, but the person who started it is Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	We've got an amazing cut from her.
	Amy, will you stay on the line?
	I want you and your husband to get a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	I need your husband's name and your address.
	Don't say anything live on air.
	God bless you.
	You are the people that make our armed forces work.
	It is.
	It is the mothers.
	It is the spouses.
	God bless you.
	Let's go.
	We can squeeze in one more call.
	Let's go to Ray in Livermore, line three.
	Welcome, Ray.
	Hey, Dr. G. I wanted to wish you a happy International Radio Day.
	Are you pissed, Ray?
	Ray, are you pissed?
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah, I am.
	I wanted to add a little levity.
	If time allows, there's a line from a movie I'd like to share.
	Before you do that, before you give us a good mood, okay?
	Can I give you somebody who's really pissed?
	It's just 15 seconds.
	It's Marjorie Taylor Greene, the person who wants to impeach President Biden.
	Play cut, audio cut 16.
	Joe Biden, you're not a president.
	You're a piece of s***.
	Thousands of Americans are stuck over there in Afghanistan, and you're letting the Taliban kick your ass while you're lecturing governors about masks and vaccines.
	Do your job.
	Bring these Americans home.
	Do your job.
	Okay, that's serious.
	Let's impeach him.
	Let's make us feel a little bit better.
	Today's National Radio Day.
	Thank you for your radio program.
	Today's National Bacon Lovers Day.
	Thank you.
	Eat some bacon, everybody, in today's National Lemonade Day.
	Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I gotta jump in here before I start reading our live read.
	My wife made me breakfast.
	We're in the northern country, and I picked out some maple bacon.
	She cooked it to perfection this morning.
	Oh, my.
	Maple-cured bacon.
	Oh, it was superb, and I didn't even know it was National Bacon Day.
	That's why we have amazing callers like Ray.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	Next up, we have the amazing Lara Logan coming to you live from the WLTN studios here in Littleton, New Hampshire.
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	All right.
	Let's play one more cut.
	We've got to go to what she actually wants to happen.
	That's video cut 12.
	Let's continue.
	MTG is on a roll!
	Well, you know, there's a certain guy named Tony Bobulinski that popped back in the news today.
	You guys remember him?
	Yeah, well, I talked to him a good bit before I made it to Congress, and we all know Joe Biden is corrupt, right?
	And Matt knows me really well.
	Yes, I do have articles of impeachment drawn up to submit tomorrow.
	Because I believe in firing people when they're corrupt and they do a bad job.
	And Joe Biden is failing America, and he needs to be impeached.
	Mic's on.
	Oh.
	Oh.
	Why don't I do food here?
	Yes, and we're going to use the Jacob's Cut.
	Once again, good stuff.
	Should we leave the mics off?
	Off.
	I would say, yeah, yeah, off.
	Want to give titles for Kirpin and Cash real quick?
	Kirpin.
	There's no science for masking children.
	Nice.
	Cash.
	I wrote the Trump... Withdrawal?
	Withdrawal plan.
	Biden's lying.
	No, Biden's lying, colon, I wrote Trump's withdrawal plan.
	Biden's lying, I wrote Trump's withdrawal plan.
	Good stuff.
	Alright, thank you.
	Hey Seb, also per your question when you were asking about whether or not it's to the end of the segment or to the read, when it's a C and a D, it's always to the read.
	Okay.
	It's like how I would do it with my fingers.
	You can remove Kay's, though Ray's Chiron.
	Sorry, yeah, yeah, I was just changing that.
	There we go.
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	I've got Jacobs' audio ready.
	Mm-hmm.
	Minute 15.
	at 15?
	Yep.
	One minute.
	What's Columbia Silver Baton?
	Oh, this is deep.
	Alright.
	She's not answering.
	I'll try texting her.
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	So yesterday we played a long cut from an amazing woman, investigative journalist, Lara Logan, being interviewed by Tucker Carlson.
	And here's a little reminder of what she had to say about what really is going on in Afghanistan and why it's happening.
	Cut to.
	Well, essentially what you're looking at is the collapse of the U.S.
	will to continue in Afghanistan.
	I think what people really miss in the whole conversation is that the United States has the power to effect anything.
	And the Afghans know that.
	The Afghans know that.
	The Taliban knows exactly what's going on.
	She has a special on Fox News this Sunday.
	Lara Logan has no agenda.
	Sacrificing Afghanistan.
	And she's with us now.
	Welcome back to America First, Lara.
	Thank you so much.
	Thanks for having me.
	So you've traveled the region, you know the region, you understand the threat of jihadis.
	Will you explain to us, if you can, what's happening on the ground and how do the events of the last seven days strengthen the extremists across the whole region, Lara?
	Well, some of the most important things for people to understand are that this didn't happen.
	These cities didn't fall in 11 days or, you know, a week or whatever it is that people are telling you.
	When you do a military offensive like that, which is pretty much an invasion from Pakistan of both, you know, Taliban fighters and also even among them many Pakistani citizens.
	When you do something like that, you do it with the blessing and under the watchful eye and with the you know, really under the control of the Pakistani intelligence services.
	So that's number one.
	Number two, you have to, you know, it requires a lot of moving parts that are impossible for U.S. intelligence agencies not to notice.
	So whether it's the logistics supply lines that are flowing across the border through Spanball Lake border crossing, which are all 100% of the time being watched by the NSA and other intelligence assets.
	Whether it's the Pakistani fighters or the Taliban fighters that the Pakistanis were inserting from the north of the country.
	You know, I mean, you just pick it, pick a number.
	And there's 400 different numbers that we think that we were watching happen in real time.
	So the idea that nobody knew this was coming, you couldn't see it was coming and etc, etc, is as ridiculous as the idea that the Taliban had changed and offering assurances and this is good Taliban versus bad Taliban, you know, and so on.
	But just like, you know, for example, people can see that over time American universities have become radicalized in one political direction, right?
	That didn't happen overnight.
	Well, it's the same thing here.
	The rehabilitation of the Taliban didn't happen overnight.
	It began under the Obama administration.
	And at the same time, they began vilifying the Afghan government.
	And essentially our Afghan allies, right?
	I mean, that's who was being vilified.
	You remember, you know, they're corrupt, Kazai is an unreliable partner, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	If you want the trail of the, you know, the information warfare campaign, just follow the leaks because the ones that are that are leaked out of White House, Washington, or the intel agencies, or whatever it is.
	That's the information they want out, right?
	So that's part of your roadmap to the deception.
	And, you know, it's quite funny that we were immediately pointing the finger at our allies, because right now some of our allies, including many of the special operations troops that were trained by the U.S., They are fighting in the Panjshir Valley.
	And there are pockets of resistance all over the country.
	For example, in Baghlan today, three districts fell.
	The Taliban haven't gone into the west of Kabul yet because it's full of Shia.
	There's Hazara areas in the north of the country that the Taliban haven't gone into.
	And all of this is because We are in the phase of the carefully managed information operation where the Taliban is presenting one face to the world, the illusion of a new Taliban and the illusion of A Taliban that is reformed.
	And you know, that is for one reason and one, well, two main reasons.
	From the Taliban's point of view, the reason is they couldn't give one hoot about legitimacy from the international world.
	They don't recognize those institutions.
	They don't recognize those governments.
	They don't believe in the way of life in those places.
	They've been their enemies on the battlefield, you know, forever.
	So their hearts haven't changed.
	Their ideology hasn't changed.
	Their extremist Islamic ideology hasn't changed.
	In fact, if anything, it's become hardened over, you know, decades being in battle with Al-Qaeda.
	And also now it is elevated and exalted by the victory of all victories, which is the defeat of the U.S.
	and its allies.
	What the Nazis couldn't do, they have done.
	Right, they are now.
	The Taliban are the most powerful jihadis we have ever seen in the modern age.
	You'll find out much, much more from this lady Sunday, August 22nd, 10pm on Fox News.
	Lara Logan has no agenda.
	Sacrificing Afghanistan.
	Follow this brave lady on Twitter at Lara Logan.
	Thank you for speaking the truth.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	And we've seen the reports of congestion.
	My understanding is that things are moving quite efficiently at this hour at the airport.
	Quite efficiently, Ned Price, State Department spokesman, you beta male.
	CNN, CNN has reported they were on the tarmac for eight hours.
	Not one U.S.
	military plane took off from Bagram.
	That's how efficient the evacuation is.
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	Welcome to America First.
	Is this keep your powder dry, Gorka?
	It could be, could be.
	It has been said.
	Hey listen, two quick questions for you.
	One, do you think despite the problems that the United States has lived up to your expectations as a legal immigrant?
	The United States has?
	This administration hasn't, Al.
	Oh yeah, that's for sure, yeah.
	Okay, and the second question is for Max Hastings.
	The writer, I'm sure you're aware of, was rattling on a couple weeks ago about surfer ships.
	He said Britain bought two big Queen Elizabeth carriers.
	Of course, we've got a lot of carriers, but he says he thinks that surfer ships are very vulnerable with hypersonic munitions.
	What do you think about that?
	I know nothing about naval warfare, but any surface vessel is going to be sensitive.
	Surface vessels are still absolutely paramount.
	You've got to control the waves.
	You've got to have free shipping lanes.
	Max Hastings is a little bit past his sell-by date.
	Hypersonic weapons.
	There's a lot of propaganda out there from the Russians and the others.
	At the end of the day, we need to make sure there is free shipping passage across the world seas.
	That's America's jobs.
	And the Brits, they're a little down on their luck, but everybody needs to be part of that alliance to keep our ships sailing.
	Let's go to Judy in Brooklyn.
	Happy Friday, Judy.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	You know something?
	I'm going to tell you something, and I hope you don't make fun of me, OK?
	But before I do tell you, I have a plan.
	That's why I don't want you to make fun of me.
	You know, I feel like we had President Trump, who was our human protector, and now we've got this shameless deflector, if you want to know.
	This lying spinmaster and thief.
	I'm so disgusted.
	He sold us down the river.
	It's terrible.
	Let me ask you a question.
	You know, honestly, I was very worried.
	I'm not a military person, but I was very concerned.
	Okay, I was very worried about what's going on with the people that are trapped, American civilians and these asylum seekers, again, that helped us, whatever.
	Ten seconds.
	Oh, God.
	So I kind of thought that we should say, if any Taliban thug harms anyone trying to leave, we should bury them in pig fat, because guess what?
	Thank you.
	I've heard that before.
	It's a classic.
	Thank you, Judy.
	We're out of time.
	This is America First.
	Congressman Zeldin next.
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	We are continuing our discussion of the absolutely disastrous events that we are witnessing across Afghanistan.
	Here is some shocking, shocking audio from a teacher, an English teacher trapped inside Afghanistan.
	Cut seven.
	We received this audio message from a trapped teacher, a U.S.
	permanent resident, who says even with the proper paperwork, he couldn't get through.
	For his safety, we're not naming him.
	It is insane.
	There are people holding their American passports.
	There are people that work with the Americans, and they're not letting anyone in.
	We are in huge danger, and we need help.
	We are in huge danger and we need help.
	Why aren't they getting any help?
	Let's ask a man who's worn the cloth of the Republic.
	He's a military intelligence professional, Lieutenant Colonel in the Army Reserves, but right now he represents New York's 1st Congressional District, a good friend of the show, Congressman Lee Zeldin.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Always great to be with you, Seb.
	So, the idea that America can't rescue our citizens, the idea that America doesn't know how many tens of thousands of Americans are in Afghanistan, that's all lies, is it not?
	There's just a ton of deception right now.
	The president just gave a presser a little while ago.
	He's making it out like you can safely get to The airport because the Taliban said so, even though we all are seeing all of the reporting, all of the images, all of the video that is contradicting that.
	He says that our allies are not criticizing this entire effort, that they aren't speaking out publicly, even though we all, with our own eyes, are seeing the video, reading the statements, seeing the stories.
	He said July 8th that it was highly unlikely that the Taliban would take back over Afghanistan.
	I don't know of anybody inside of the country, inside of our country, who is in the Defense Department or the intel community, who shares that assessment, shared that assessment.
	I don't know where Biden would have gotten it from.
	So the real-time continued misleading.
	It's something that Americans should be really infuriated by.
	There's a lot to compound that emotion because we have fellow Americans who are being told that the only way that they can be brought home is if they get themselves.
	They could figure out a way to get to one airport in one city in Afghanistan.
	And the president is saying, That if you're an American and you want to come home, we're going to get you home, where actually the policy, if you want to be honest with people to your question about what's true and what's not true, the answer is, if you can figure out how to get yourself to the airport in Kabul by August 31st, then You can come home.
	So yeah, the messages are crazy.
	Congressman, you can come home, but the reports are that American citizens trying to flee Taliban-controlled Afghanistan will be charged $2,000 to fly home by their own government as illegal aliens are crossing our southern border to the tune of 6,000 aliens every single day and are being flown across America on plane tickets we paid for.
	How does this not lead to the impeachment of the man who currently bears the title President of the United States?
	Well, for one, there just can't be a fee.
	I understand that that is something that is out there now, but that's one of those things where I just cannot see that sticking at all.
	Are you kidding me right now?
	I mean, it's kind of like saying that in order to get on the plane You have to show your vaccine card and you have to be wearing a mask and, you know, test neck.
	I mean, like you could come up with all different kinds of requirements and bureaucratic red tape to get on that plane.
	But in reality here, you know, we need to get every one of our Americans to safety.
	That's, that's our mission.
	And this is all caused by what is a total failure of planning and execution of a withdrawal.
	To your question about this president, he's not up to the job.
	What concerns me is actually, yesterday I was actually with Secretary Pompeo and a whole bunch of others and we were talking about this specifically and somebody asked me my thoughts on this similar question.
	I said I have three concerns, an increasing level of concern.
	The first one ...is between now and August 31st for our Americans who are in Afghanistan.
	My next level of concern is for the Americans who are still in Afghanistan after August 31st.
	And then the third level of concern, which is actually so much bigger and can be so much more dangerous, is that you have China, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, all of these organizations and foreign actors, all watching what is going on right now, and they're seeing the President not up for the job.
	Yeah, it is incredibly dangerous when you have the chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee in Parliament, an Iraqi Afghan veteran lieutenant colonel in the territorial army, call out President Biden for the first time in the history of the special relationship for actually besmirching those who fought for the flags that he stands under.
	These are truly unprecedented times.
	Congressman Zeldin, follow this man first, Rep.
	Lee Zeldin.
	Let's put all of this in a broader context.
	This man has to go.
	The radicalized, American-hating Democrat Party has to be defeated.
	Will you give us an update on your campaign and your mission to replace disgraced Andrew Cuomo and your bid to become the governor of New York?
	Well, the good news is I saw some video not too long ago today of some U-Haul trucks pulling into the governor's mansion.
	Andrew Cuomo is now going into his last weekend as the governor of the state of New York, and he should have resigned a while ago.
	It's part of the path forward for New Yorkers across this entire state.
	Their breaking point the morning that Andrew Cuomo resigned is the same as their breaking point today.
	Nothing changed since he made his announcement as far as Your taxes going down, or police being better secured, or kids having a higher quality education, all those other issues.
	The feedback's been awesome.
	People across the state are focused, hungry.
	They want to go vote now.
	They're seeing what's going on at the national level, at the local level, where Mayor de Blasio just instituted vaccine mandates.
	Everybody needs to realize that this is not just a right to vote.
	It's your duty and obligation to vote.
	We need everybody, everywhere across this country, Activated for November 8, 2022.
	Everybody, if we come together, we can defeat the radicals and get back to a place where America is once again the shining city on the hill.
	Please support this man.
	He's got my vote.
	I don't live in New York.
	If I did, he'd have my vote.
	It's Zeldin4NewYork.com.
	That's Zeldin4NewYork.com.
	Last question, Congressman.
	I have to...
	I've never served in the American Armed Forces.
	I served in the British.
	I've taught, I've worked with the American Armed Forces for almost two decades.
	What is your personal message as a veteran, as a member of the Reserves?
	To all those who bled in Afghanistan, who deployed, who were separated from their families, and to all those families who lost somebody fighting for that benighted piece of real estate in Central Asia, what do you say to them after the last five days?
	There was a successful mission to take out Osama bin Laden and deliver justice.
	There was a successful effort to dismantle the capabilities of Al-Qaeda.
	I don't want anyone to think that their sacrifice was for naught.
	this entire country as a terrorist safe haven able to bring the fight over the course of these last 20 years to the United States because we were delivering justice and our passion behind protecting our freedom to them over there so I don't want anyone to think that their sacrifice was for not I mean we all share very similar emotions passions about what we're watching
	We understand what it means, what we're seeing with our own eyes overseas right now.
	Everybody gets it.
	We're all together in that observation.
	But no one should discount what was done positively, at great cost, on treasure, life, limb, amazing sacrifice.
	But they did take out Osama bin Laden.
	They did make sure that the fight was over there, not here.
	They did dismantle in so many different ways Al-Qaeda, and I just wouldn't want anyone to feel like they had sacrificed for anything.
	Thank you for your repeated service in uniform, out of uniform, and still on Capitol Hill.
	Support this man.
	Find out more.
	Zeldin4NewYork.com.
	That's Zeldin4NewYork.com.
	Thank you for being a truth teller.
	Next in studio, one of the individuals I respect most for his analysis of the jihadi threat, Jeff Cousins.
	Stay on this channel.
	Thank you.
	So throttle for a second there.
	Okay.
	Joint Force Quarterly.
	talking about the joint force quarterly.
	Yeah, yeah, I know, but it's...
	Mics are on.
	Can you look up right now Joint Force Quarterly, Jeff Cousins.
	Come in.
	Joint Force Quarterly.
	It does, it does, because that's the one I want to discuss.
	Joint Force Quarterly, yeah.
	Yes.
	JFQ and Jeff Cousins.
	Search.
	JFQ.
	Yeah, I found JFQ on the National Defense University Press website.
	Right.
	And his article?
	Oh, I can send you the link that I found.
	Let me see if I still have that link.
	I sent you the document, right?
	Yeah, but this is the article I'm interested in.
	What's the name of the article?
	Victory from the Prism of Jihadi Culture.
	Prism of Jihadi?
	Culture.
	It's this one.
	I'm sending it to you right now.
	Okay.
	Oh yeah, I found this previously.
	There's a text version.
	No, this is the real version.
	This is the image.
	I just sent it to you.
	If you can cut and paste that.
	Two minutes.
	Do you want to do an audio level check with the two of you?
	Oh yeah.
	Talk Jeff.
	How's it going today?
	Is that good?
	Sounds pretty good for how far along you guys are.
	That's fine.
	Good, good, good.
	We good?
	Yeah, we good.
	Alright, you wanted car 15 here, Dr. G?
	Are you texting it or emailing it to me?
	Emailed it.
	Okay.
	Keeping an eye on my email.
	Do you want some Travis Tripp music for the e-block?
	Sure!
	So, um, he made a statement about concerts, right?
	Yeah, um... Yeah, that he's... You're basically discriminating against people.
	He's doing interviews next week.
	I think he's gonna come on.
	Good, good, good.
	Excellent.
	Not seeing the email yet.
	One minute.
	One minute.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	put Put in the Chiron... Yes?
	Author... Victory from the Prism of Jihadi Culture.
	The Prism of Jihadi Culture.
	Prism, like a glass.
	Yep, copy that.
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	Listen to him.
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	Love that liner.
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	So, Jeff Cousins, we're doing something a little bit different.
	Welcome in studio to say hello to the people of America first!
	America, it's a pleasure to be here with my good friend Dr. G. So, I don't know, we met each other in the distant eons of time when dinosaurs roamed the earth, and we're going to have one of the buddies we met together, Rudy Atala, with us for the third hour of the show.
	But you spent a large chunk of your career analyzing the ideology of jihadi groups like the Taliban and al-Qaeda and ISIS.
	Let's start with, not the piece I want to discuss, but just your Raw reactions as a national security professional of yore to the events we've seen in just the last seven days.
	Yeah, I mean it's been captivating for sure and not in a positive way, Sebastian.
	I think one of the biggest things that I see is we lost the opportunity to define our exit in the way that we would have liked to.
	And we serve that up on a silver tray to the jihadists.
	Instead of being able to, in an orderly fashion, describe how we've met all of the objectives that we set out to meet and tell a great story about the service of our men and women in uniform.
	I mean, we killed bin Laden.
	We provided countless benefits to the Afghani people for 20 years.
	Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi from ISIS.
	All of them.
	I mean, but just in the Afghan context, we missed a golden opportunity and now we've ceded that narrative ground to the Taliban and to Islamist groups across the region.
	So they control the narrative.
	Let's try and understand them a little bit better.
	As I've been teaching officers from across the armed forces, especially at Fort Bragg, there's one article that helped me the most.
	And this isn't an exaggeration, dear friends.
	It's called Victory from the Prism of Jihadi Culture.
	It's from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs' official magazine.
	It's Joint Forces Quarterly.
	It's Victory from the Prism of Jihadi Culture.
	We'll post a link to it.
	But tell us, Tell us, Jeff, first, our adversaries, whether it's Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Nusra, whether it's the Taliban, they have very different ways of thinking about victory itself, do they not?
	Oh, they absolutely do.
	It's not simply about taking over the presidential palace.
	It's not simply about controlling the monopoly of violence in a state.
	It's not simply about the state itself.
	It's about really the post-game locker room rah-rah speech, these expressive metrics of victory.
	You know, have we succeeded in fulfilling our obligation to fight?
	Have we institutionalized martyrdom operations?
	And the answer is, of course, yes.
	Let me stop you for a second.
	One of the ones that really grabbed me the most is this idea that it's not winning that is the most important thing.
	You can read lots of Al-Qaeda statements, bin Laden, Zawahiri, where there's no, you know, signing a peace treaty on the deck of an aircraft carrier.
	It is the Act of continuing to fight, which can be understood by the jihadi as a form of victory, correct?
	Oh, absolutely.
	In fact, there's a hadith that says that one hour in the field of jihad is the equivalent of 60 years of praying, in terms of conveying merit to the mujahid, the one who's actually doing the fighting.
	And so, you know, just the fact that there's a victorious, in their view, a victorious sect that continues fighting until the end of time, that in and of itself is victory.
	The fact that you have, you've beaten not one, but two superpowers.
	Okay, this is massive.
	It's a massive topic.
	Let's stop here for a second.
	So in your article, Victory through the prism of Jihad.
	You went through seven different metrics that our enemy uses.
	Completely different from the Clausewitzian way of thinking, from the Western way of thinking about victory.
	Let's stop here and let's look at the last 50 years.
	Let's look at the Afghan war against the Soviet occupying force.
	Let's look at the post G-WAT operations.
	What does it mean That the Soviet Union left with its tail between its legs after invading Afghanistan?
	And how much bigger is it that America that defeated the Soviet Union now couldn't even secure our embassy in Kabul?
	Sebastian, it's massive.
	I mean, the fact that you have, what, 65, 70,000 people that fight in bedroom slippers, effectively, they've beat the most technologically advanced military the world has ever known, is unbelievable.
	But it's not just in the act of victory in Afghanistan, it's the inspirational model That these guys have actually lent to jihadist groups across the world, specifically in the Middle East.
	I mean, you see congratulograms from Hamas and Hezbollah, albeit different types of jihadi actors.
	But nonetheless, they're looking at what the Taliban have done and they're saying, you know what, we're going to continue this.
	No longer is jihad delegitimized, really, or on the dissent post-ISIS, but now you've filled the sails of these actors and you've given them an inspirational model, you've given them an Islamic state that they can actually travel to now and examine how it's being run in a very different way
	than what ISIS did and so for a lot of reasons this is a it's a major template that they've created and there's never been an Islamic movement like this that is defeated not one but two superpowers.
	We're going to go deep dive with one of our fellow compatriots another body of ours in the third hour Rudy Attala who has been involved in special forces operations across the African continent We talked to Jeff Cousins.
	Let's say, Jeff, what did you do for the U.S.
	military in a past life?
	So, I've had the great honor of working for over a dozen years with the U.S.
	military and intelligence communities, and I cap that off by serving as a Senior Religious Extremism Advisor on the Chief of Staff of the Army's think tank.
	Wonderful!
	Superb!
	He helped me with his understanding.
	Let me ask you this.
	How well Do we understand our enemies after 20 years of fighting Jeff Cousins?
	Not well.
	Not well.
	We have a great deal of work to do.
	And why is that?
	I taught primary sources.
	Read the writings of Bin Laden, of the Brotherhood, of Qutb, of Zawahiri.
	Is that too complicated a message?
	Read the primary source materials, Jeff?
	No, I mean, the best information that I've ever had about this type of warfare and this type of fighting comes from the mouth of the people that actually did it.
	And unless you're talking to them, you'll never understand why.
	And we fail to learn those lessons.
	It's exactly how we did it in the Cold War.
	What did we do?
	We actually looked at the writings of our enemies.
	We read the Communist Manifesto.
	We looked at the Politburo statements.
	We listened to what the enemy said.
	If you want to defeat the enemy, Sun Tzu said it two and a half thousand years ago, listen To what they are saying.
	And do not mirror image.
	Do not expect your enemies to think and behave the way you do.
	Because that is how wars are lost.
	We're talking to Jeff Cousins.
	He is the author of a seminal work, Victory from the Prism of Jihadi Culture in the Joint Forces Quarterly.
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	After this break, I'm Sebastian Gawker, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
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	military on matters jihadi.
	Let's just jump up to the super strategic, even the metaphysical level.
	I went to the cinema last night here, beautiful old theater, saw for the 70th anniversary of the release, A Streetcar Named Desire.
	Fascinating movie, not very upbeat, but a fascinating movie.
	And I did a little bit of research on the director, Elia Kazan, who came here as an immigrant.
	And there's a quote from Elia Kazan that I think we have to think about in terms of the current global conflict.
	I think you and I, all of us, have some sort of stake in the United States.
	If it fails, the failure will be that of us all, of mankind itself.
	It will cost us all.
	I think of the United States as a country which is in an arena, and in that arena there is a drama being played out.
	I have seen that the struggle is the struggle of free men.
	I say that because you mentioned narratives.
	Right now, because of the last seven days, in this global Manichaean struggle, we're not the ones controlling the narrative, are we Jeff?
	No, we're not controlling the narrative and you have to seize the moment.
	And that's what these types of movements, these jihadi movements, have been so profoundly proficient at doing over time.
	They're able to seize tactical or operational failures of ours and immediately Turn them into something that's strategic, that's even grand strategic.
	A story.
	A story, that's right.
	And in some cases, different military authors have called us the tactical private or the tactical sergeant.
	They're able to elevate these mistakes that we make, and you're seeing a case in point right now.
	Would it be fair to say that the capture, the Taliban controlling more territory now in Afghanistan than it ever has, and billions of dollars of our equipment, that it's not going to take much for them, Jeff, to present themselves to the world, to all jihadi groups, Shia or Sunni, as the preeminent jihadi center of operations?
	Is that hyperbole?
	No, it's not hyperbole.
	I think what you're saying has a great deal of truth.
	Look, they were able to do that when they beat the Soviets even though there were different reasons for the emergence of Al-Qaeda at that point in time.
	You have something perhaps even far more dangerous now when you're looking at ISIS and you're looking at all kinds of other Islamist groups around the region coming in and out of territory that the Taliban may not be able to control very well.
	It is an age-old question.
	It isn't just the Capacity to win.
	It's not just the tools to win.
	It's perhaps the most important thing of all.
	It is the will to win.
	As we played the President yesterday, President Trump's speech from Warsaw, a sterling speech, but with a very tough question near the end.
	Everybody should read that speech now.
	Watch the video.
	The question of the age is a very simple one.
	Does Judeo-Christian civilization have the will To defend itself from those who would destroy it, whether it is communists, Marxists, Those who hate America, or whether it is jihadi groups like the Taliban.
	Read the article.
	It is victory through the prism of jihadi culture.
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	But it has to do with fully automatic weapons.
	So let's start at the beginning because there's so many misconceptions, especially in an age where anything that's the color black and has a bayonet lug is deemed to be scary or an assault weapon.
	Will you explain to the non-cognoscenti, the people who do not understand or are not familiar with the National Firearms Act, what the reality is in America today when it comes to fully automatic weapons.
	They aren't, in fact, machine guns are not technically illegal, are they, Richard?
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	You've taken one of the most popular fully automatic weapons, the most economical, the MAC family, the MAC-10, the MAC-11, And what have you developed at Lage Manufacturing?
	Explain to our listeners.
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	Basically, the MAC is a fully automatic machine pistol.
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	It shoots at around 1,400 rounds per minute.
	It has a flimsy wire stock, very crude sights, and like I said, the rate of fire is just Basically uncontrollable.
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	So... Yeah, it's basically a bullet hose, right?
	When you're shooting 11, 12,000 rounds per minute, it's not exactly an accurate weapon.
	Yeah, with a 30-round magazine, you can basically get about three bursts off.
	Pulling the trigger as fast as you can, you get about three... Yeah, it shoots like a shotgun, basically.
	So what have you developed?
	Explain your accessories.
	Okay, so what we do is we manufacture the upper receiver, which is the top half of the gun, which is not regulated by the government, and it slows the rate of fire down from 1,400 rounds per minute down to around 600 rounds per minute or 700 rounds per minute, depending on the upper.
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	You can credit the Clinton Assault Weapons Band of 1994.
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	How to make your machine gun even cooler.
	All right.
	We're going to come in with a food disclaimer and you wanted to do pillow here.
	Thank you.
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	Cut 11, Derek Wilborn, Colorado Springs.
	I'd like to begin my comments tonight by reading a quote, which in essence is the genesis of all of this Black Lives Matter, social justice, CRT conversations we're having in our country today.
	Quote, I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.
	Close quote.
	Colin Kaepernick, August 2016.
	I am the direct descendant of the North American slave trade.
	Both my parents are black, all four of my grandparents are black, all eight of my great-grandparents, all 16 of my great-greats.
	On my mother's side, my ancestors were enslaved in Alabama.
	On my father's side, we were enslaved in Texas.
	I am not oppressed.
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	I'm neither oppressed nor a victim.
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	Today, I am so delighted because it's an opportunity to showcase a great American, a patriot, a friend of mine who does his amazing work.
	Out of the limelight, in the shadows, but given the recent events in Afghanistan, it's important, all the more important, to talk about what this man does and the broader mission that all of us face in this Judeo-Christian civilization.
	Former Air Force officer Rudy Atala, now CEO of White Mountain Research.
	Rudy, welcome to America First One-on-One.
	Thank you so much, Seb, for having me on.
	I'm so honored.
	So I got to know you.
	Let's go back through the mists of time, how it was originally that we met.
	Was it through our mutual friend, Jeff Cousins, the national security analyst?
	I can't even recall.
	It was so long ago.
	I know.
	I think it's been about 17 years since we've known each other.
	I was still in uniform at the Pentagon.
	Before I retired, I think.
	And yeah, we got to know each other.
	And then over the years, we lectured on various, you know, we've been on various circuits together.
	And we've been close friends ever since.
	I want to talk about who you are, so our millions of listeners can get to know about your background.
	But when we met, just share with our viewers what you were doing in the Pentagon, what your AOR was and what your mission was.
	Sure, I had moved from West Africa where I was doing some work for the Defense Intelligence Agency as a defense attache.
	I moved to the Pentagon and I worked for Rumsfeld and Gates, both Secretaries of Defense, as the Africa Counterterrorism Director.
	My focus was primarily on the CT mission in Africa that expanded over time when we started having issues with Somali pirates off the coast of Somalia and it culminated with my doing the Maersk Alabama hostage rescue before I retired in 2009.
	So you can tell us the truth about that story which turned into a Hollywood movie.
	Just a small job, just counterterrorism director for the African continent.
	We'll talk about that amazing work and the briefing you did for me, for my company in Fort Bragg, which was just absolutely stunning.
	But let's talk about, just for a minute, How you got to where you arrived at that point, running counter-terrorism in the Pentagon for Africa.
	What is your career trajectory and where does your family originally hail from, Rudy?
	Yeah, so I was born and raised in Beirut, Lebanon.
	My mother's American, my father's Lebanese.
	I come from a very old Christian family, one of the oldest in the Middle East.
	I left Lebanon during the Lebanese Civil War.
	I was part of the Christian militia on the ground growing up.
	I lived through the nine and a half years of the Lebanese Civil War, came to the States in 1984, and went to college, studied biomedical engineering with hopes of going to med school.
	I ended up sidetracking, going to the Air Force, and I started flying planes for the Air Force.
	Ended up in the first Gulf War, and everybody found out that I spoke both Arabic and French, and a few other languages that I was learning along the way.
	And one thing led to another.
	I ended up going and working with the Air Force Special Operations Command, teaching, and spending my time downrange.
	And then I got picked up to be a defense attaché.
	Ended up accredited to six West African countries.
	As an Air Force attaché, I was flying King Air turboprop out there.
	And this is during the time when Ivory Coast, I was stationed based out of Ivory Coast.
	The country went through a coup.
	And then during that time period, I had to evacuate 1,700 Americans out.
	Spent a lot of time running around doing CTs right around 9-11.
	That was another part of my portfolio.
	And the Pentagon, you know, saw what I was doing.
	So I got a call from the Secretary of Defense's office asking if I can, I would like to make my next assignment at the Pentagon on helping them with some of the CT issues.
	So one thing led to another.
	I ended up spending six and a half years in the Pentagon working for two Secretaries of Defense on strategies and tactics across the continent and trying to develop that.
	And along the way, help stand up the Africa Command, which is based out of Germany.
	So tell us, I can't remember whether it was a professor or whether it was a recruiter.
	What is that story about somebody who said, yeah, you're not going to have any future in the Air Force or the military?
	What was that story again, Rudy?
	Yeah, coming from Lebanon, you know, English was my third language, so I was still learning to speak English.
	And, you know, a lot of naysayers out there, one person said, there's no way this man's Air Force is going to take, you know, a person out of the backwoods of Lebanon and stick them in a U.S.
	Air Force jet.
	And I tuned them out and moved on with my career.
	And ended up as the Director of Counterterrorism Operations for Africa.
	Not too shabby.
	We're talking to Rudy Attala, CEO of White Mountain Research, Air Force veteran and a personal friend of mine.
	So let's talk about, you mentioned that you were responsible for evac operations in the Côte d'Ivoire.
	We've been told by the Secretary of Defense that it is impossible, we can't get everybody out of Afghanistan.
	You, as part of your life's mission outside of the counter-terrorism work, have been doing some amazing things for the beleaguered Christian community across the Middle East and also Central Asia.
	I just want to play one cut that's just come up from Kayleigh McEnany, my former colleague in the White House, who maybe has an explanation as to why this administration doesn't care about Americans, doesn't care about Afghans, doesn't care about people who fought with us.
	Play cuts!
	That is a lie!
	Why is he so cold and callous and stubborn?
	I found the answer today, I think.
	It was reported by Richard Holbrook.
	It was in Richard Holbrook's diary.
	He was the special envoy to Afghanistan and to Pakistan in the Obama administration.
	The Atlantic reported a revelation from his diary about Joe Biden.
	This was back in 2010.
	According to Holbrook's diary, when he was asked about American obligations to Afghans like the girls in the Kabul school, Biden replied with a history lesson saying this, F that.
	We don't have to worry about that.
	We did it in Vietnam.
	Nixon and Kissinger got away with it.
	This is from a credible person in the Obama administration.
	That was 2010 and now these cold callous remarks we hear in 2021.
	It's unacceptable.
	The late Richard Holbrooke saying that Biden back then said, F those people, we can just screw them over like we did in Vietnam.
	Rudy, talk to us about the realities.
	There's between 11 and 40,000 Americans stuck in Afghanistan.
	And we're being told by the retired four-star general, who happens to be the Secretary of Defense, that we don't have the capabilities to evacuate them.
	When at the same time, Rudy, We're hearing that the British, with a much smaller armed force, a much smaller army, is actually rescuing not only their own citizens, Rudy, they're rescuing the Irish citizens who are stuck there.
	So, can you give us, I'm not talking about politics, can you give us some factual basis for what America can or cannot do?
	Yeah, I mean, we can definitely evacuate all these people.
	The problem is a priority.
	Normally, when you do non-combatant evacuations or NEOs, I've done several of them, you delegate DOD and you give them the free license to set up and stage for the evacs.
	And we've got enough knowledge of Afghanistan, of dirt fields, runways, Locations, threats, all that stuff is out there for us, and we can definitely leverage our capabilities and do it.
	The problem what we have with this current administration is instead of giving DOD the priority to do the evacuation, they've turned that priority over to the State Department, which is not equipped at all to essentially run a NEO, and that's why we're having this discombobulated evacuation.
	It's backwards.
	So normally DOD would secure not only just one airfield.
	We could have used different airfields.
	Bagram, for example, could have been used.
	There's so many, you know, areas that could have been used.
	But right now, we're only down to a single area, which is Kabul Airport.
	And I mean, just recently there was a firefight at one edge of the airport.
	Twelve people were killed.
	So now we've restricted all flights going in until further notice from DoD.
	So DoD is only around the airport.
	There's nobody out in the cities getting people from the areas that they are in to the airport.
	And again, that's because the State Department is running things versus the Department of Defense.
	And the idea that we did all of this in such a way that we couldn't secure the embassy and the Bagram airstrip at the same time, that's just fallacious.
	What we're hearing from the Pentagon, that we can't do that at the same time, is just absurd, is it not?
	It's totally absurd.
	I mean, we've got the resources, we've got the capabilities, we've got the people, we've got all of the above.
	And I just don't understand why they've Allowed it to get this bad.
	They had plenty of time to prepare for this, but they never did.
	Rudy Atala, I got to know you as a colonel in the U.S.
	Air Force working on special operations and directing counter-terrorism operations in Africa after the GWAT, the Global War on Terror.
	Now we're talking about the situation in Afghanistan, the tragic, tragic surrender of that nation to the Taliban.
	Rudy, let's jump to your other mission in life.
	Talk to us about I don't know how to put it any other way.
	The genocidal plight of Christians in the Middle East, in Africa, and in Central Asia, and why we don't know enough about it.
	Talk to us about the other work you're doing to try and help our brothers and sisters in Christ.
	So Christians are being persecuted in many different areas.
	Let me start with Afghanistan and then I can kind of move into the Levant and give a little bit more of a detailed explanation.
	But currently, for example, in Afghanistan in 2019, the Afghan government requested or actually changed the rules and put out new government IDs where everybody has to label They're a religious affiliation on their government IDs.
	Well, many Afghans that had converted to Christianity did not want to renounce Christ, so they made sure that their ID said that they were Christians.
	Well, guess what?
	Now that the Taliban have control, the Taliban is looking and has a partial list of these individuals looking to kill them and then burn their families alive.
	So, we are in the process of trying to help some of these families get out.
	I would like to get them all out.
	But that's the reality of people that convert.
	In some of these countries.
	Now, moving to the Middle East, where I do the bulk of my work... Before we get to the Middle East, Rudy, I don't think I've ever heard the mainstream media talk about the Christian converts in Afghanistan.
	So, talk to us about who these people are and why we've never heard about this from the legacy media.
	Well, because a lot of people... I mean, I've worked with the underground churches in various parts of the Middle East.
	They see the atrocities that take place from radical groups like the Taliban or Al-Qaeda or ISIS and they simply don't want any part of it.
	So they say if this is part of the religion that we're associated with, we don't want any part of it.
	So many of them convert and they convert in secret.
	They try to escape out of the countries or they convert in countries and they come to missionaries or people that I know And they ask, like, well, tell us more about the Bible, about Jesus, and many of them end up giving their life to Christ, and when they do, oftentimes it's a fairly radical conversion.
	And then they stay in secrecy, and then they just maintain that secret that they're Christians, and they live with the persecution.
	Talk to us about the situation in the Middle East, the flip side of the global war on terror that really isn't adequately discussed either.
	What has happened in Syria, in other parts of the Middle East like Iraq in the last 20 years since September the 11th?
	And Egypt as well?
	Yeah, so across the Middle East you used to have a fairly robust Christian population.
	put it in numbers, at the turn of the 20th century, across the Middle East, we had approximately 20 plus percent Christians that were living in various pockets.
	Lebanon has right now per capita the largest Christian community.
	But you had them living in Iraq, you had them living in Syria, in Turkey and whatnot.
	Well, as we progressed through the 20th century with the various wars and the uptick in some of these terror groups, Christians began to leave in larger numbers.
	So, Since the war in Syria, for example, in 2011 when it started, there were 3 million Christians living inside Syria.
	Today we have less than 250,000.
	Um, in Iraq, the numbers also dwindled tremendously.
	Now, if you take Iraq, for example, and most people don't know this, like Iraq, there is, if you go, uh, in, in certain parts of, uh, like, uh, in, in, on the outskirts of, in Mosul, you'll have the tomb of Jonah, the prophet Jonah.
	You have, um, uh, outside of Mosul, you have the, the tomb of the minor prophet name, all Nineveh Plains is well known in the Bible.
	So these are all old Jewish and Christian lands and Christians are being driven out left and right, not only by Sunni radicals, but also by Shia radicals.
	Why?
	Because Iran wants control.
	They want that Fertile Crescent to go and open door from modern day Iran in through Iraq, Syria, all the way out to Lebanon.
	So in this in this divide, you've got a Sunni Shia clashes and in these clashes, not only are they fighting each other, but they're also pushing the Christians out.
	The Christians always take the brunt of everything.
	In Lebanon, for example, Iran,
	You know at one point You know Iran was making so much inroads that you know obviously they bolstered Hezbollah and they carry out attacks into Israel They also persecute Christians, but during the Obama administration Iran got very very strong with all all the JCPOA Agreements and all the cash that we were dumping on Iran while a lot of that money made its way to Hezbollah to prop them up and get them stronger and
	Well, you know, under Trump, we began to diminish that capability with sanctions and all that stuff, and it started creating a lot of rift within Hezbollah, which was good.
	But now we return to JCPOA, now Hezbollah is strong again, and Christians continue to get persecuted because of it.
	What's happening in the case of Lebanon, money comes from Iran to Hezbollah, And then they use this money to go up to Christians who are now fighting to survive because of, you know, all kinds of economic issues or whatever.
	And then they get their offers to have their land purchased by Shia using Iranian money.
	So now Christians begin to lose more and more land because they're selling out of desperation to survive, to feed their kids and whatnot.
	And it continues to get worse.
	So Lebanon is bad.
	Syria is bad.
	Iraq is bad.
	Christians keep being pushed out.
	And then now you move to neighboring countries like Turkey, for example, under Erdogan.
	Christians are under constant persecution.
	About a year and a half ago, there was a monastery that was built in the third century.
	It was Syrian Christians.
	The Erdogan regime came up and said, well, your monastery was built on top of a mosque.
	We need to we you need to give up your monastery and everybody needs to get kicked out Well guess you when you look at it.
	You say well, how is it possible Islam didn't even exist yet?
	You know the Prophet died in 632 AD this monastery existed well before You know Islam was even you know a name And and the Turkish the Turkish government shrugs their shoulders and said you need to leave so we see persecution of Christians all across the Middle East and
	So I spend my time, um, trying to a rescue Christians that are caught in some of these bad areas, but also try to work with the churches out there to try to maintain, um, a lot of the Christian villages.
	So for example, we work, uh, there is one village where ISIS had pushed out all the Christians out of, uh, a small village called Bukmaya.
	We went back and tried to find the various families.
	We brought them back and repatriated them to their village.
	Now we have about 160 families back in the village.
	These are little tiny villages, but these are historical Christian.
	They've been there forever, and that's the kind of work that we do.
	God bless you, Rudy, and everybody who's part of your team for helping our brothers and sisters in Christ.
	Truly, this is a modern genocide, and it's happening without priests and pastors talking about it, which is perhaps one of the most shameful aspects of it.
	And of course, let me note here, The whole area you're discussing was Christian before it was Muslim.
	North Africa was a Christian territory.
	That's where the church grew the fastest after Jesus left us and Islam came 600 years later.
	That's just a statement of fact.
	Rudy, you've shared with us the incredible projects you're doing across the globe to help Christians.
	How can our millions of listeners, if they want to help, how can they help you and the projects to save those Christian communities?
	Well, I have a non-profit organization called The Blessing Projects with an S dot org.
	The Blessing Projects dot org.
	If they want to donate or support, that's a good way to do it.
	We use every penny and I try to stay very diligent on this where our overhead is less than two and a half percent.
	So we spend everything we push out the door just to get as many rescues and help as many people.
	In many cases, we also try to help the Christians stand on their two feet.
	For example, in Lebanon, I've been slowly, you know, purchasing areas land where we can have agricultural projects going so we can feed people.
	That way, they don't have to go to the market.
	In the case of Lebanon, Hezbollah controls a lot of the market value of a carton of eggs or You know, or meat or milk or whatever.
	Even now, gasoline is a problem.
	So people are struggling to survive.
	They can't afford it, especially with the devaluation of the Lebanese pound against the dollar.
	So 50% of the population is living under the poverty line.
	Well, instead of constantly purchasing food, I prefer to grow the food and feed them.
	So right now I'm feeding 70 families, but I'm looking for a way to feed Several thousand families and keep them sustained that way they can stand on their two feet because the last thing we want is an exodus of Christians a bigger exodus of Christians out of the Middle East because what will be left is you know this little tiny country we call Israel and Israel's already under a lot of pressure and as you push them the Christians out then what happens is the vacuum is filled up with
	a lot of these radical individuals in rogue states that want control like Iran.
	And Israel continues to become a bigger target where eventually they will start doing worse things.
	I mean, right now, Iran working with Hezbollah spent over $13 million on a whole bunch of tunnels that go from southern Lebanon into Israel.
	Just to give you an idea of how much money they're spending, they're looking for ways to destabilize Israel and get it out.
	Christians are always in that blocking position, not only for holding territory, but also helping with information on what's going on and also trying to You know, to maintain the faith in the region.
	And, you know, most people don't understand, you know, all the dynamics going on across that whole region.
	But we have to help our brothers and sisters, not only the Christians, but also a lot of Jewish people that kind of reside here and there, and also to maintain the State of Israel.
	The website is theblessingprojects.org.
	Please, if you can support our Christian brothers and sisters who are just trying to survive, go to theblessingprojects.org.
	Rudy, it's a tough question, and of course it's hard to generalize, but from the people you've met, Families you're helping and you're trying to feed.
	Do the Christian communities want to escape to safety?
	Or do they want to stay in their ancestral homelands?
	What's the overall sentiment of the Christians who've lived there sometimes for 2,000 years?
	Yeah.
	99% of the people that I speak to, at least, all want to stay.
	They don't want to leave because they don't want to go to Foreign country and and start a new language and everything.
	I rescued an older couple The husband was 87 years old.
	The wife was is 84 years old and I was asking them I said, you know We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna move you to Australia.
	They had nothing I pulled them out of a really dangerous place in Hasakah Syria and And I said, how do you feel about that?
	You know and the husband looked at me and with tears in his eyes.
	He looked at me and he said I Do I have a choice?
	If I had a choice, I would prefer to die where I was born.
	This is where I raised my family.
	Why do I want to go to another foreign country and at my age try to learn a new language?
	It's very difficult for me.
	He said, I would give anything to stay here.
	But I also am very grateful that at least I can live another day to see my grandkids, you know, survive and live.
	So many of them want to stay.
	And the churches oftentimes, the leaders of the churches beg, they say, please, please, please don't take any more Christians out of the Middle East.
	Don't move them to other countries.
	We cannot afford to lose more people.
	And you know, I said, OK, fine, you know, find me a place where I can bring them and keep them safe, because it's not easy when you're in the middle of this big geopolitical fight.
	I mean, right now, You know, Syria, I'll use Syria as an example.
	It's a testing ground for the Russians to try out their new weapons, to try out all this stuff.
	There's a lot of electronic warfare going on between the United States and the Russians on the eastern side of Syria.
	You've got the Turks in there.
	You've got, you know, think of every, you know, alphabet soup of radical group, you know, Hayat Tahrir al-Shaab, Hizb al-Shaabi, Nusra.
	I mean, I can go on and on.
	And the Christians are in the middle of all of this.
	And they get persecuted, so we only hear about the Yazidis and the Kurds, but we never hear about the Christians.
	They just suffer in silence all the time.
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	Rudy...
	There's a bigger question here.
	We're talking about the plight of the Christians, we're talking about the global war on terror, the global jihadi movement that you've been fighting in Africa since September the 11th, and it boils down really, especially if you look to the events in Kabul and the very strange pronouncements coming out of the White House, it comes down to a question of will.
	Let me illustrate it thusly and give you a chance to respond.
	I think, and it has Little to do with the fact that I was involved with it, but I do think one of the most important speeches by a Western statesman since the end of the Cold War was the speech that my former boss Donald Trump gave in Warsaw.
	And there was a clear question, a challenge in that speech, and I just want to play a short clip to you.
	This is President Trump, one of his early speeches in Warsaw.
	Today the ties that unite our civilization are no less vital and demand no less defense than that bare shred of land on which the hope of Poland once totally rested.
	Our freedom, our civilization, and our survival depend on these bonds of history, culture, and memory.
	And today as ever, Poland is in our heart and its people are in that fight.
	Just as Poland could not be broken, I declare today for the world to hear that the West will never, ever be broken.
	Our values will prevail, our people will thrive, and our civilization will triumph.
	So, Rudy, the President gave that speech.
	The Polish government wanted him to give it downtown in some fancy palace or governmental building.
	We said no.
	We want him to give that speech out at the site of the Warsaw Uprising.
	Where there's a beautiful statue of the freedom fighters who literally came out of the sewers, out of the hiding places to fight the fascists that had occupied and tried to destroy Poland.
	And we got it.
	The Polish government allowed us to take the president there to give the speech next to the statue.
	And in that speech, There's a dark moment where he says, the only question now is, do we, the members of Western Christian civilization, have the will to defeat those who wish to destroy our civilization?
	It was fascists.
	It was Nazis.
	It was then communists.
	Now it's jihadis.
	I see your work trying to save Christians across the Middle East and elsewhere as part of answering that question.
	Would you give us just your response to the President's question from Warsaw?
	Well, God bless him, first of all, for making the speech.
	I mean, I just love that.
	Here's my take.
	Unfortunately, today, A lot of Christians are Christians, and I put it in quotes, they are not practicing Christians, they don't understand Christianity, they don't understand the message of Christ, and therefore they're simply Christians on paper, but they're not really strong believers.
	We have that in almost every faith.
	In Islam you see that, in Judaism you see that, and so on and so forth.
	These are people that are more worldly.
	The West can stand up, but the West has lost its course.
	If you don't know where you come from, how could you know where you need to go?
	Essentially, Christians don't know where they originally came from.
	That's why I push so hard to kind of elevate the true Christians that are the Christians that currently reside in the Middle East, at least the ones that I've been standing with the faith and being persecuted for their faith, to show what true Christianity truly is and say, look, you know, as Christians, as believers in Christ, we need to understand exactly what the Word of God says, what we need to stand for.
	For example, I use this all the time from Proverbs 24, That if somebody is jailed or going to be put to death, we have a duty to go out there and rescue them.
	We have a duty to go out there and save them.
	We have to stand with our brothers and sisters who are being persecuted.
	But when I talk to, say, Westerners, whether they're from Europe or from here, from our country, oftentimes they kind of look at me and say, well, it's not happening In my backyard.
	So I understand.
	Yes, my heart goes to them, but there's not much I can do.
	Like, well, you know, that's a cop out because your duty is to stand by those that are being persecuted.
	Now, when you have these radical groups that are raising a sword there, I mean, we saw how quickly we forget what ISIS was doing in 2014, 2015 on TV.
	Decapitating people, lopping off hands, throwing people on their heads from the top of buildings, crucifying them on crosses, you know, and we're going to see this again, unfortunately, with what's going on in Afghanistan.
	You know, this persecution happens to Christians.
	We go, oh my God, how in the world did this happen?
	We need to do something.
	I'm like, yeah, you should have been doing something about it a long time ago, not waiting to the last second for it to happen.
	I think the result, see, when we're all united together under a true same faith, then we all will stand together and we can all resist together and we can also make a difference together.
	Unfortunately, we're very divided, especially when it comes down to the faith itself.
	I mean, the churches are teaching lukewarm messages.
	They're not really teaching the gospel anymore.
	Our kids are being indoctrinated.
	through hollywood through all the garbage that you see on social media they believe that social media is pumping out proper information which it's not most of it is anti-christian most of it is anti-western value most of it is is demonic at its roots and people are afraid to talk about it people are afraid to say something about it and and this is where we need to kind of come back and really
	A. Educate our kids on true Christian values and B. All be united as people of the faith and really step up to the plate and do the right thing.
	Well, thank you so much for doing what you do.
	It's theblessingprojects.org, theblessingprojects.org, trying to help Our beleaguered Christian brothers and sisters across the planet.
	We're talking to Colonel Rudy Atala, former U.S.
	Air Force retired, former Director of Counterterrorism Operations for the continent of Africa.
	You spent a large chunk of your career, Rudy, Fighting members of the Jihadi movement, whether it's Al-Shabaab in the Horn of Africa or whether it is their kith and kin, their bloodthirsty kith and kin across the Middle East.
	In the last few moments we have with you, would you explain, as a former practitioner in uniform, who was hunting down these individuals, providing intelligence to our Special operators to neutralize them.
	How significant is the fall of Kabul?
	And how will the Taliban, who gave succor and aid not only to al-Qaeda but to ISIS, how will they profit globally from being able to project this message that they defeated the President of the United States?
	Put it into perspective for us.
	Okay, to put it in perspective, you know, Ayman Zawahiri, who is currently very ill, he's the leader of Al-Qaeda, swore a blood oath to the Emir of the Taliban, basically, and never broke it.
	The Emir of the Taliban's deputy, Haqqani, is a card-carrying member of Al-Qaeda.
	Al-Qaeda is, as we're evacuating or trying to evacuate people out of Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda members are returning to Afghanistan in large numbers.
	Afghanistan has always been a playground for over 20 terrorist groups, and now that the Taliban have control, they are going to come back in fairly large numbers.
	And the problem is, is now we've done this major pullout, and we don't have any more friends, real friends in the region.
	Iran is touting the fact that You know, America will abandon you.
	Every terrorist group like Hamas, ISIS, they're all saying the same thing.
	Hey, look, America will abandon you.
	Come join our causes.
	Come join who we are.
	So, I would basically say that what's currently happening, unfolding in Afghanistan is this massive recruiting campaign for these radical groups.
	So, expect to see Al-Qaeda 3.0 surge.
	I expect to see a whole bunch of other radical groups surge.
	Hamas just congratulated the leaders of the Taliban for their victory against the United States, saying, you know, you have done something wonderful for the Islamic Kingdom, and now we're all going to follow in your footsteps.
	So we're going to see this major uptick, and basically what we've done is we've We've turned our world into a much more difficult and less safe place.
	And this administration is going to, you know, reap what it sowed for a long, long time to come, unfortunately.
	But, you know, we went into Afghanistan for counterterrorism reasons.
	And we should have stayed at least maintain a small presence for counterterrorism reasons, not about nation building, but really about counterterrorism.
	We've lost all that.
	I hear people say we've got that over the horizon capability.
	Yes, but you're losing that Intel capability, that really important Intel capability on the ground.
	And that in itself is going to create issues.
	And by the way, these radical groups, you know, fighting the United States over many, over many years and decades have learned lessons on how to circumvent, you know, organizations like the NSA or agency, they know how to work around these, some of these, you know, areas that were collect data comes from.
	So, so I'm very concerned about the future.
	And I just simply say that, This has emboldened terrorist groups across the entire Middle East right now.
	We're seeing it not only on the Sunni side, but on the Shia side as well.
	It's a very simple form of arithmetic.
	When America is strong and bold, the world is a safer place.
	When it is weak and feckless, the world is a very dangerous place.
	He's helping our brothers and sisters across the world.
	Brothers and sisters in Christ, please check out theblessingprojects.org.
	Theblessingprojects.org.
	God bless you, Rudy, for doing what you do.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	You've been listening to America First one-on-one.

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