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Aug. 24, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Biden capitulates to the Taliban.

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	Mr. Biden, you did this.
	You planned this.
	You made the deal with the Taliban.
	This is the consequences of it.
	This is the repercussions of it.
	Mr. Biden, it's your ill calculation.
	You were against Trump.
	Now we are against you.
	Go to hell, Biden!
	Shocking, shocking footage from Afghanistan.
	The situation is going from bad to worse.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network across the nation, giving you the latest news and analysis on everything you need to know if you believe in this, the greatest nation on God's earth that is being betrayed.
	Yes, betrayed by the man who bears the title of President of the United States.
	Just moments ago, our good friend Jim Carafano, the Vice President of All Matters National Security at the Heritage Foundation, tweeted out a very short tweet, very simple tweet.
	The difference between Taliban 1.0 and Taliban 2.0 is that Taliban 2.0 has Joe Biden on their side.
	Not a man given to hyperbole, and when he says something that robust, you listen.
	Finally, the GOP is taking some form of action, albeit rhetorical.
	They held, lead members of the Republican Party held a press conference just before the show began.
	And this is the ranking member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, Congressman Mike McCaul, likewise with some very tough language.
	Play cuts.
	My understanding is the President just announced a firm Withdraw date of August 31st.
	I can tell you there's no way we can humanly get our all of our American citizens and Afghan partners out of country by that time.
	I've called this consistently and unmitigated disaster of epic proportions.
	It will be a stain on this presidency and particularly after the decision made today and what we heard today.
	He will have blood on his hands.
	People are going to die.
	Michael McCaul doesn't use language like that.
	He did so after he and his colleagues received a behind-closed-doors classified briefing from the US military and the intelligence community.
	And he walked out of that briefing to tell the world that Joe Biden will have blood on his hands.
	Why?
	Because he has capitulated.
	The deadline for the extraction of all our evacuees from Afghanistan was the 31st, next Tuesday, a week from today.
	And he has refused, refused to extend it after the Taliban said they will not countenance an extension.
	That is a surrender to the bloodthirsty Taliban.
	The individuals who made September the 11th possible.
	Can we be clear?
	They made September the 11th possible.
	How did we get here?
	Thanks in part to people like David Petraeus, that lorded general, former director of the CIA for Obama, who has just been given A platform in the Wall Street Journal.
	Two thousand words of in-depth interviews showcasing this disgraced general and I wish to share it with you so you understand just how it is we got here.
	And why is a conservative, putative conservative organ giving such exposure to David Petraeus?
	The interview starts with Petraeus saying the withdrawal is just so sad, it's heartbreaking, it's tragic, and that I valued, even cherished, the fallen Afghan government.
	Quote from David Petraeus, however imperfect that government was, however flawed However many, its maddening shortcomings and corrupt activities, its leaders were great partners.
	Great partners in making sure that Al-Qaeda or the Islamic State couldn't re-establish a sanctuary.
	Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
	Lies, damnable lies.
	They weren't partners in anything.
	They were partners in taking our money.
	How do we know that?
	We know that because they crumbled or disappeared.
	Ten days is all it took.
	If they were such great partners, why didn't they fight?
	Because it was all about filthy Luca.
	It was about our money.
	And here's a glimpse into the kind of name-dropping Pretentious little ego, Petraeus is.
	He said, the Taliban will be constrained and they'll be more difficult to deal with.
	I just got off the phone with Tony Blair.
	And when the Wall Street Journal asked him, what did he say to you?
	He just chuckled, declining to elaborate because Petraeus said, quote, I'm not making this up.
	It's right here.
	Petraeus said, I am a loyal man.
	I guess not to your wife when you were banging the reporter who was writing a book about you.
	Oh, she was married as well, and you were director of the CIA, and you were giving her classified information.
	That's an interesting definition of loyal, don't you think, David Betrayus?
	Having an affair as a married man with a married reporter who you were giving classified information to.
	Interesting definition of loyal.
	But let's go on.
	Petraeus thinks the Taliban won't want to jeopardize their control of the country by taking hostages.
	Why?
	Why?
	They're jihadis.
	What fantasy world do you live in?
	Oh, here we have the answer.
	I assume the Taliban have to be painfully aware that they face an enormous budget deficit.
	Big spending, Western organizations, non-profits and embassies that were really part of the ecosystem of Kabul won't be there with their money.
	Yeah, David.
	But they weren't giving money to Afghanistan, you moron.
	They were funding the corrupt regime that fell.
	And when it comes to the ecosystem, They can now nationalize the opium harvest.
	Not the odd warlord here and there in Wardak province in a rat or somewhere else.
	No, no, no.
	They can nationalize it.
	It can become part of the budget.
	And, oh, he recognizes China may be an issue, but he uses the word, I'm fully cognizant, because I have such big words.
	I went to Princeton, don't you know?
	I'm fully cognizant.
	No, you're not, because then you'd understand that China is going to be bankrolling the Taliban with its rare earth mineral mining exploitation and its purchase of the biggest copper mine in the world in Afghanistan.
	Yes, in Afghanistan.
	But here's the real, real nexus of how we got to where we are today.
	Petraeus bridled at criticisms of nation building.
	It didn't all go wrong when we started that.
	We had to transition our military to their military that requires to train them in basic, basic military, even How to read?
	And here's the ultimate, ultimate explication.
	Why did the Biden administration get so impatient and didn't appreciate that we can't take a country from the 7th century to the 21st century in 20 years or less?
	Right there is a glimpse into the heart of these people.
	They still believe you can take a tribal Neanderthal culture and bring it to the 21st century.
	You just have to give it a little bit more time.
	20,000 Americans wounded, 2,000 killed is not enough.
	But we can turn Afghanistan into Switzerland.
	Afghanistan will be launching rocket ships to the moon.
	If we just invest, oh, I don't know, not 2 trillion, 20 trillion.
	These are the experts, America.
	They're cretins.
	Let's have the country run by a sixth grader that at least lives in the real world.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Cool.
	Something like General Petraeus, you cretin.
	General Petraeus, colon, disloyal cretin.
	Can I hear Waltz?
	Yeah, give me just a moment here.
	Waltz, that is the cut.
	Three.
	Three?
	Okay.
	We are on the cusp of the biggest mass hostage crisis this country has ever seen.
	This will make 1979 in Tehran look like a sleepover.
	Because of the negligence of this administration and the hasty retreat that they led out of Afghanistan, they have left $85 billion worth of American equipment in the hands of our enemy, the Taliban.
	75,000 vehicles, over 200 airplanes and helicopters, over 600,000 small arms and light weapons.
	The Taliban now has...
	Well, his view of life is that he's a historic figure getting us out of Afghanistan.
	And just look at the harshness of their attitudes.
	Look at their whole tone.
	Look at how stupid this whole process is.
	You can't assume that this happened by accident.
	They gave up Bagram, which was the key to military power in the region.
	Voluntarily.
	I mean, the Taliban was not going to capture Baghdad.
	Okay, good.
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	Anniversary of what?
	Mount Vesuvius, the volcano that destroyed Pompeii.
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	And it's a quote from Sun Tzu in the Art of War.
	Always abandon your most strategic air base right before an evacuation.
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	And just like the first cut we used from Congressman McCaul, he's got an explanation for what Biden is doing, and it's tough words.
	Play cut.
	Well, his view of life is that he's a historic figure getting us out of Afghanistan.
	And just look at the harshness of their attitudes.
	Look at their whole tone.
	Look at how stupid this whole process is.
	You can't assume that this happened by accident.
	They gave up Bagram, which was the key to military power in the region.
	Voluntarily.
	I mean, the Taliban was not going to capture Bagram.
	It wasn't possible.
	We surrendered.
	And I think if you just say the words, Biden surrendered to the Taliban, and now we're working out the surrender process, you understand exactly what's going on.
	There is no arguing with that.
	He surrendered.
	We do not have access to that region.
	None of the neighboring states support us.
	Without that airport, there is no way for us to go after Al-Qaeda or ISIS or any other terror group in the region with physical assets that have to be flown into that region.
	And we've lost it now.
	We gave it to them.
	And now, with the Taliban's demand that the 31st is the deadline for evacuees, with Biden saying he will not extend it, as he's doing presser photographs.
	What was it, Jeff?
	Was it a basketball team?
	Female?
	What was that yesterday?
	It was about the equal pay.
	The soccer team was there, and then her fiancé, Sue Bird, who's a WNBA player.
	And then he took a knee holding one of their jerseys, right?
	I think so.
	Yeah, I think I saw that.
	Unbelievable.
	So Biden is doing photo opportunities, taking a knee in the White House with a jersey from some female sports team nobody's heard of, as we are negotiating our surrender.
	All right.
	I'm going to go straight to your calls.
	The number here, 833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Sylvia, I think, tried to get through yesterday.
	Welcome back to America First, calling from California.
	Oh, thank you, Dr. Gorka, for taking my phone call.
	I wanted to find out your opinion.
	I heard that China is funding the Taliban.
	Do you think that has an influence on the way Biden is acting?
	Because they have something on him?
	I have no evidence that they are actually currently blackmailing him.
	All I do know is that they can.
	If you look at the material from the laptops from hell, Hunter Biden was in business with Communist China.
	He brags on a voicemail that he is actually doing business with the chief spy of Communist China.
	We've played it here on the show.
	Whether the Chinese are leveraging that, I don't know.
	I think the explanation of incompetence and hatred of America is enough.
	I mean, you know, Eric, let's dig out from yesterday, that cut from Biden, where he admits that America isn't something special.
	If you listen to this, if you know he's senile, if you know he's incompetent, if you know he's been wrong, as Robert Gates said, on every foreign policy for the last four decades, and you add this cut into the mix, it's explanation enough.
	Eric, play cut.
	And so you figure out how to live together like we do, you will never, never, never make it.
	America's strength ultimately lies in its people.
	There's nothing special about being American.
	None of you can define for me what an American is.
	Can't define it based on religion, ethnicity, race, culture.
	There's nothing special about being American.
	Well, I guess the Afghans that are clamoring to come to America would disagree.
	I guess the Americans that are trying to rescue their fellow Americans would disagree.
	So, Sylvia, I don't know if they're blackmailing him.
	I don't know if the Chinese are paying the Taliban.
	They don't need to.
	They're going into business with the Taliban for all the rare earth minerals and all the other assets that an incredibly poor nation has.
	But hasn't managed to actually exploit, are now going to be exploited.
	Let's go to Dale in Detroit.
	Welcome to America First, Dale.
	Hey, thanks for taking my call.
	Sure.
	Yeah, this whole Afghanistan thing, obviously, it's hitting everyone hard.
	But the other day, about three days ago, is when it really hit me hard.
	And that's when I was listening to your show.
	I'd listen every day.
	And your intro, When George Bush says, and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon, that's when it hit me because I realized that speech doesn't mean anything anymore.
	And it's in your intro every single day, and I hear that every single day, and it doesn't mean anything anymore.
	I think that's a defeatist attitude, Dale.
	Bin Laden is dead.
	He died with a bullet between the eyes.
	He did, but And he was the Arctic of September the 11th.
	So why is that clip from George Bush wrong?
	Well, it's not wrong in the fact that the direct person that was the mastermind of that is now gone.
	However, we went into Afghanistan to make sure it doesn't happen again.
	Correct.
	And I feel that it's going to happen again now.
	Are you a defeatist?
	No, not really, but that's what... Don't be a defeatist.
	It's un-American.
	I know right now it's very hard when you see the man who is, or bears the title, President, surrendering to the Taliban, leaving Americans stranded.
	Yes, Jen Psaki, stranded in that hellhole that is Afghanistan.
	But don't give up, because that's not what we do.
	That's not what we did in 1776.
	And don't worry, leadership will be back.
	Biden's days are numbered.
	He's toast.
	He's not just senile.
	They're going to 25th Amendment him from inside the Democrat Party.
	And after last weekend, don't you think Donald Trump is going to be back?
	I think that's safe money.
	We're going to have Lord Conrad Black with us.
	We're going to have Mike Waltz, former Green Beret, and the former Deputy National Security Advisor for the whole last hour, Katie McFarland, here on America First.
	It's two audios.
	Are you not getting the scripts?
	I don't know, but I'm just not concentrating on it when I've got a million other things to do.
	Crappy Wi-Fi and one shitty printer, so... That's why I'm asking you.
	Yeah, I'm just curious.
	Yeah, two pieces of audio.
	They both suck, so... Go ahead.
	Yeah, here's one from the head of the DoD.
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	We're very proud of all the men and women of the department that are assisting in this effort and truly making a difference on the ground.
	That was John Kirby and then this is actor Sean Penn.
	We have been from day one with heavy equipment crews still finding bodies.
	It's really awful the circumstances there.
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	Medical teams are treating hundreds of people.
	Did Tom send us that?
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	First of all, I want to congratulate the jihadis in CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter.
	They really did their best and they succeeded bringing Taliban.
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	Dr. Gorka, I hope you don't mind.
	First of all, I want to congratulate the jihadis in CNN, MSNBC, Facebook, Twitter.
	They really did their best and they succeeded bringing Taliban.
	Second, next Tuesday when it passes the deadline.
	God knows how much they are going to get per person to release them to the airport or anything because they need money.
	Taliban at this moment need money.
	Are they going to ask for 100,000 per person?
	I'm not really sure, but they are not going to go and let it go free.
	Yeah.
	You have that sense that because the deadline is hard, the second that nobody manages or is trapped behind Taliban territory, this administration is just going to start paying ransoms, Hamid?
	I'm 100% sure if they don't, they're not going to get their people out.
	I think you're absolutely right, and I am ashamed to think that this administration will pay those ransoms.
	Thank you, Hamid.
	It's a sad, sad day.
	We need to get as many out, and we have to say, screw your deadline.
	We're staying here until we get everybody out.
	What are you going to do about it, Taliban?
	Let's go to Lance, Arizona, line one.
	Welcome, Lance.
	Yeah, good afternoon, Dr. Gorka.
	First, Hamid makes an excellent point, and it's Probably a good feeder to my point.
	We need to remember that August 31st is the deadline for evacuation out of Afghanistan.
	People think that the airport is going to be open until then.
	They are absolutely incorrect in that assumption.
	You have to remember you have 15,000 people in that airport right now trying to get out of that country.
	At some point in time, well short of the 31st, That airport will be sealed off and no one else will be allowed in so they can deal with what they've got to be done by the 31st.
	Yes.
	It is much more perilous timeline than people think.
	And not only that, there's this working backwards, the facilities.
	There are horrific stories coming out of Kuwait, where the facilities, the staging area for these people, these thousands of people who have been flown out, are living in inhuman conditions.
	There's feces, urine, filth all over the hangar.
	They're crammed in.
	And as soon as that becomes the biggest issue, they're going to stop flights.
	There's one stinking There's one strip, there's one runway at Kabul International.
	And the idea that it's, oh, we've got another week, you'll be fine, we'll find the other 30,000, we'll get them out.
	No, you nailed it.
	They're going to shut access down imminently, whether it's tomorrow or the day after, doesn't matter.
	And at that point, automatically, de facto, every American, every green card holder that wants to get out, that can't, will be a hostage of the Taliban regime.
	And it will make 1979, the fall of the Shah, and the Iranian embassy siege seem like a small incident.
	And this regime, And our White House will not have an answer.
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	Let's talk to somebody who is fighting for us every single day.
	She's not a swamp creature.
	She's brand new to D.C., representing the 15th Congressional District of Illinois.
	She's been with us before.
	Welcome back to America First, Congresswoman Mary Miller.
	Thank you.
	It's my pleasure.
	You're doing such a great work for our country.
	Whoever controls the information controls the people, and we need you badly.
	Well, I'm not here to control people.
	I'm here to provide information so they can make decisions for themselves.
	Finally, so many people very frustrated with the GOP.
	You're new to this political world.
	Finally, today there was a press conference with some very, very harsh language for this administration.
	What is your sense?
	You're still a bit of an outsider.
	You're not a swamp creature.
	You're there as a citizen politician.
	Is the GOP finally going to get its act together when it comes to responding to the disaster that is the Biden surrender to the Taliban?
	Well, if there ever was a time, it's now.
	And I know I belong to the Freedom Caucus, and they are a group of patriots committed to our Constitution, to regular citizens, and we want our leadership to Speak up and fight back and we need to unite and call the Democrats into account.
	I, in light of what's going on in Afghanistan, I've joined other members in calling on the Biden administration officials, especially Secretary Blinken and Austin to immediately testify before Congress to answer our questions.
	And shouldn't some of these people be forced to resign?
	Is the GOP not ready to call for the resignation of at least the National Security Advisor and the Secretary of Defense and Antony Blinken at the State Department?
	Somebody has to pay a price for this.
	Definitely.
	Well, I know I am, and at the Freedom Caucus meeting, many of them are also, so hopefully going forward, we're going to see some accountability.
	I know regular citizens here in the United States are outraged over what's going on, and I'm afraid that if we don't get bold and bad in fighting against the Democrats' dismantling of our great country, that we're going to lose our base.
	Yes, it is clear that the Trump movement is alive and well when you look at the rally on Saturday night, but the establishment, GOP, seems not to understand that.
	Congresswoman Miller, follow this lady, Rep.
	Mary Miller, on Twitter.
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	Mary Miller.
	Talk to us about some recent resolution.
	It's not about Afghanistan, but it's about national security and selective service.
	Tell us about what you're trying to do on Capitol Hill.
	Yes, well, first of all, it's It continually surprises me how here we have an open border, you know, this push to defund the police, this disaster in Afghanistan, and now we're going to push drafting our daughters.
	So I introduced a resolution expressing that Congress should not pass legislation mandating the registration of women for Selective Service System.
	Let's stop here for a second.
	Who is behind adding women to the Selective Service Registration?
	Let's start with that.
	Where is this push coming from, Congresswoman Miller?
	Well, it was newly added provision to the Senate version of the National Defense Authorization Act, which would require women to register for the draft.
	And who was behind it?
	Are there names?
	Can you identify where it came from?
	I'm not sure who's behind it, but my resolution was a response to that Senate version.
	I actually have five daughters, and it's very personal for me.
	And I'm not denying that women play critical roles in our military, but they should not be forced to fight.
	And the draft, in the rare instances that it's used, primarily is to be a pipeline to replace combat forces.
	And I think even now we can see with this Disaster in Afghanistan.
	Who cares about a woke military?
	We want an effective fighting machine.
	We want to be a threat to the world.
	We want our enemies to fear us.
	What a wonderfully refreshing statement we just heard.
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	All three million of you?
	We want to be a threat to the world.
	Yes, we do.
	To our enemies, we have to be a threat.
	Otherwise, they don't take us seriously.
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	How does it stand right now, Congresswoman?
	I do have a lot of supporters and I think that, you know, actually I haven't had anybody turn me down that I've approached.
	So we're continuing to get people to sign on.
	Fabulous.
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	Finally taking action.
	Yep.
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	Okay.
	You know a lot of the language in that bill, the Senate bill, was written in the lobbying phase by a men's rights organization?
	Why the hell would the Democrats listen to that?
	I don't know.
	That's what's funny about it.
	It's like one of those organizations that's been around since the early 2000s.
	Weird.
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	Welcome to America First, Ron.
	Hello.
	Question for you, Seb.
	There were 20,000 contractors in Afghanistan.
	Yep.
	I've heard that they were pulled out.
	I haven't heard when they pulled them out, how they pulled them out.
	Who told you that?
	Who told you that?
	Because I don't believe that.
	I don't believe what?
	That they were all pulled out.
	I've heard that they're pulled out.
	I don't know.
	It's, you know, you listen to the news and a lot of the stuff goes by.
	You think they're still there?
	I don't think all of them were pulled out.
	No, I think some of the people trapped there are still contractors.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	But, but they were supporting.
	What's the question, Ron?
	What's the question, Ron?
	They were an integral part of the supporting the Afghan army.
	And the fewer of them that were there, whether they left with the American troops... Ron, I gotta get to some calls.
	What's the question?
	Why were they pulled out?
	Because, I presume, they wanted to pull them out at the same time as the military.
	So they didn't leave earlier than the military?
	I have no idea.
	I have no idea the status of the contractors.
	The fact that the U.S.
	government doesn't even know how many Americans are in Afghanistan would lead me to believe that they don't even know if the contractors are there or not.
	But, you know, that's America under Biden.
	Line 2, Steve in Atlanta.
	Welcome, Steve.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Earlier you asked me if there were defeatists.
	That got me to thinking we can't afford to be defeatists.
	We have to fight for this country because we literally have no choice.
	I mean, what's happening right now is horrific, and it will be a curse on Joe Biden for the ages.
	And the answer for what's happening is going to have to come from outside both major political parties, because the Democrats are just pure evil, hate this country, want to tear it down.
	The establishment Republicans are a bunch of milquetoast weasels and spineless degenerates.
	It's going to have to come from outsiders like the Congresswoman you just interviewed, and also, ultimately, Donald Trump in 2024.
	We have to get our country back.
	We have no choice.
	Perfect diagnosis.
	Perfect diagnosis.
	You're absolutely right.
	Couldn't agree more.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give this man a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	Let's squeeze in one more call.
	Jeff, are you there?
	This is your doppelganger, doctor.
	Ah, greetings.
	Listen, it's been a long time since I've spoken with you on this great show.
	Listen, I am very, very concerned that we're going to have a repeat of what happened on September 11, 2012.
	That was Benghazi.
	Now, many of these people were at the State Department during that debacle, and I have a feeling that they're going to repeat that on a huge scale.
	Think of this.
	Jake Sullivan, Biden's National Security Advisor, was Deputy Chief of Staff for Hillary Clinton in the State Department.
	That tells you who's really running the show.
	Yeah, it could be significantly worse than Benghazi.
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	Okay.
	Yep.
	Mics are back on.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	Not yet.
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	Conrad?
	Yes, sir.
	Welcome.
	Did you catch the GOP big press conference on Capitol Hill?
	I did not.
	Okay, we're going to play a cut from Congressman Jim Banks that was very powerful, and then we're going to come straight to you.
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	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	Because of the negligence of this administration and the hasty retreat that they led out of Afghanistan, they have left $85 billion worth of American equipment in the hands of our enemy, the Taliban.
	75,000 vehicles.
	Over 200 airplanes and helicopters.
	Over 600,000 small arms and light weapons.
	The Taliban now has more Black Hawk helicopters than 85% of the countries in the world.
	Just that last metric.
	Black Hawk.
	Cutting-edge helicopter.
	The Taliban now has more Black Hawk helicopters than most of the countries in the world.
	What does it all mean?
	How does it stack up against prior strategic mistakes by any administration in the United States?
	Let's ask our regular guest, presidential historian, financier, former media mogul, and regular friend of America First, Lord Conrad Black.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Always a pleasure.
	If we put COVID, the lockdowns, and everything to one side for a moment, and I will actually ask you in the second segment your reaction to what we're seeing in Australia, but if we put that all to one side,
	Does this decision in Kabul not rank as one of the most egregious, astrategic decisions of any administration in America for a long, long time when it comes to national security, Lord Black?
	Undoubtedly it does.
	And Congressman Banks could have added a number of other items, of course.
	We effectively are complicit in bringing active terrorists, dangerous kind, back to Afghanistan as a training and launching ground.
	And we've done terrible damage to the Western Alliance.
	There has never in history, until last week, been an occasion when the name of the President of the United States, or just the identification of him as President, has led to shouts of shame in the British Parliament.
	Never.
	And incidentally, that goes back to Washington's time.
	And the British felt they had a grievance against Washington for obvious reasons.
	It's terrible.
	I mean, when you have the chairman of the British House of Commons Foreign Relations Committee, Tom Tugendhat, recommending that the British consult seriously with Japan, Germany, France, Australia and other powers, about some other method of operating the Western alliance than just assuming that the United States will lead it.
	That shows you what's been accomplished.
	I mean, I know it's hard for Americans perhaps to realize how awful this appears abroad.
	But three quarters of the troops in Afghanistan in the last phases have not been American.
	There have been other NATO powers.
	And none of them was consulted seriously about the timetable of what the United States was doing.
	And they're all scrambling to get the people out.
	Yeah, let's just dwell on this for a moment because you talk about it at some length in your latest piece, which we are posting right now on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	It's at AmericanGreatness.com.
	It's entitled, This Horrible Fiasco Demands Change.
	The individual you mentioned, a conservative chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Parliament.
	Full disclosure, Tom Tugendhat is a veteran.
	He's a member of the same British Army Unit, Territorial Army Unit, I served in the Intelligence Corps.
	This individual is a veteran of Afghanistan, of Iraq, and it was It was clearly not, it wasn't party politics when he spoke, and that last line that we've used here, where he said, those who have never fought under the banner that they wave should be very I believe that's true.
	criticizing those who have fought for that banner.
	To have that come from the UK addressing a US president, that isn't a statement that will be easily brushed under the carpet.
	Whoever's in the White House, correct, Conrad?
	I believe that's true.
	Now, in fairness, if it were, as time goes by, if it's another president, I don't think it will be held against a future administration.
	But I think it is something that... I mean, I don't think he's pinned the tail on the Biden donkey for as long as he's there.
	I mean, he's in effect saying that he's implying a certain degree of cowardice or hypocrisy in a man who has never served in the uniform of any armed forces anywhere to cast aspersions on the Afghans who've he's in effect saying that he's implying a certain degree of cowardice or hypocrisy in a
	I mean, it's all very well to say that they folded quickly, but they fought hard and bravely for 20 years, and 50,000 of them died.
	And that just should not be disparaged.
	It reminds me slightly of the address President Kennedy gave at the time of the Cuba missile crisis when he intervened in the senatorial election in Indiana and criticized then-incumbent Senator Homer Capehart and said that America should not listen to those men who are in too much of a hurry to send other men's sons to war.
	And there is a lot of There's something extremely dangerous about catching out a public figure being flippant and glib About the sacrifice of others when he has never been anywhere near a position where he had to make one himself.
	So I really need your assistance here, Lord Black, because I'm hearing contradictory reports.
	Even from the left, they're saying Joe Biden is done.
	It's over.
	He will be replaced.
	He'll be forced out of office either by the 25th Amendment or They'll just convince him to resign and Kamala takes over, whilst I'm hearing exactly the opposite, that there is no way somebody else wants to pick up these pieces and he's there until the next election.
	As a presidential historian who's written about Nixon, FDR and President Trump, do you have a feeling either way, can he stay in office for another three and a half years?
	Look, he certainly could if he could raise his game, if he could put this behind him, as other presidents have put terrible mistakes, maybe not as grievous as this, but other mistakes behind them, and regain the confidence of the country.
	But I think here we've got two problems.
	The president is carrying the can for this terrible fiasco in Kabul, which continues.
	And at the same time, there is a real question, unfortunately, and I don't say this nastily, about his capacity to exercise the office.
	And it is the second thing that I think will make it difficult, because with the best will in the world, as you know, Sebastian, like yourself, whoever the president of the U.S.
	is, even if it's somebody that I never particularly supported, Whoever that person is, I wish that person well.
	You always want the President of the United States to do well for himself, for his country, and for the Western world.
	And in that spirit, I don't know how anyone can have a great deal of confidence in President Biden.
	I mean, again, I don't want to be one of these people piling on about how he has trouble reading a teleprompter and so on, but there is a real question about Both his level of intellectual energy and his level of intellectual consistency.
	But there's no need to pile on.
	I mean, even in the last week, he's piling on himself.
	The idea that he refuses to extend the evacuation deadline looks like he's capitulating to the Taliban, does it not?
	That is precisely what it looks like.
	And everybody knows, and the Taliban know as well as anyone, That the President of the U.S.
	has the power right at his fingertips, and he would have great public support in the U.S.
	if he used it, to at least ensure from this stage on a systematic withdrawal of everyone whom the U.S.
	and its allies wish to facilitate the withdrawal of from Afghanistan.
	And the United States certainly has the ability to require that of the new authorities in Kabul.
	And if he doesn't do it, it is a capitulation.
	Yeah, I think that is the most important thing that you've said today and I think it bears repeating.
	Given the United States, given our capabilities, given the forces already in theater or that can be deployable from within the theater, there is empirically nothing, absolutely nothing on God's green earth that prevents the United States from evacuating every single one of our citizens and green card holders.
	And the fact that that is not deemed to be the state of affairs by cabinet members in this administration is an indictment of the man who sits behind the resolute desk.
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	Mike's back on.
	Yes, yes.
	We used to own the Fairfax newspapers, Melbourne Age, Sydney Morning Herald and the Australian Business Review.
	I thought you did.
	So in that case, I'm going to ask you this when we come back on, but let's just start already.
	What is going on in Australia and New Zealand?
	I don't understand it.
	I mean, they don't have, as far as I can see, a particularly heavy affliction of the coronavirus.
	You know, the odds are what they are.
	I mean, if you're a healthy person, not above 65 years of age, your chances of survival are over 99%.
	The Australians are very healthy, robust people.
	And their attitude, forget their health.
	I mean, just their attitude to life is hardly one of nervous Nellies hiding under the table.
	Not a bit.
	Not a bit.
	They're, you know, they're, as they appear to be, another nation of crocodile dungbees.
	And I just do not understand what's going on here.
	It's truly flabbergasting.
	I have to share, I'll use it as the jumping board for our further discussion, but I found this unbelievable footage from the Australian TV news that I'm going to come in with, of just the surreal, draconian measures they're taking.
	The fact that it's happening not in Germany, but happening in Australia is all the more mind-boggling.
	So we'll have fun with that.
	I can't imagine the Australians putting up with a shutdown as severe as this for very long.
	Well, we played a cut from a truck driver yesterday, who knows whether it's bluster or not, but he said We are going to shut down Australia.
	Without us, without the food and oil that we truck, it's not going to function.
	This government has to go, and I guess they're going to go on strike.
	Well, we'll see if that happens, but if anybody can do it, it's the truckers.
	Or as they call them in Australia, the truckies.
	Yeah, that's right.
	I don't envy Morrison, I believe, as the Prime Minister.
	And I had a pretty good impression of him, but I think he flipped his cork on this one.
	But I don't envy him or anyone else trying to deal with an entire population of Australian truck drivers.
	I mean, you know, even General de Gaulle had problems with rail strikes in France, but The Australian truck drivers, I'd leave that to someone else to deal with.
	What was that famous quote from de Gaulle?
	It's my father's favourite quote of de Gaulle's.
	When somebody was criticising his leadership style and he said, who on earth can govern a country with 372 cheeses?
	He was a tremendous repartee artist.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	I'm sure.
	I remember watching a press conference of his when someone asked him why he had thought such and such.
	At this point he was, I think, 77 years old and had been the leading figure in France for a whole generation.
	He said, you can crack it up to my inexperience.
	30 seconds.
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	I'll tee it up.
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	All right.
	All right.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
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	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Just received on the wire via Mr. GR Producer, the House has approved a $3.5 trillion budget plan in a key step for Democrats to pass legislation expanding the social safety net.
	There are 10 million jobs, my friends.
	In America that have yet to be filled 10 million and we need to expand the social safety net.
	We are back with Lord Conrad Black, the author of a fabulous piece at American Greatness and greatness.com.
	This horrible fiasco demands change as well as numerous books.
	Every single one of them is worth your time, especially Donald J. Trump, a president like no other.
	Lord Black, I had a sneaking suspicion.
	You confirmed it for me in the break that not only did you own the most famous newspaper titles in Canada and in the UK, but a slew of them in Australia as well.
	As such, I have to play this video I found yesterday because I find it hard to credit.
	This is what the Australian government is spending its time on right now.
	Cut 11.
	It's those doing the wrong thing driving our record case numbers.
	Among the most concerning cases, a COVID patient who's tonight on the run from a hotspot.
	Police and health authorities have issued an urgent appeal.
	Anthony Karam knows he is COVID positive when he steps into this public lift.
	Already breaking so many rules, he doesn't bother to cover his mouth as he sneezes and splutters.
	The 27-year-old is still infectious but has gone missing from his Wentworth Point apartment.
	A warrant now issued for his arrest.
	A manhunt and a warrant for an Australian citizen who gets in an elevator and doesn't cover his mouth when he coughs.
	Lord Black, help me.
	What has happened to our Antipodean friends?
	I just can't explain it.
	I absolutely can't explain it.
	That's not the Australia I know.
	There is no more rugged nationality, in my experience, and they would be the last people I would suspect of a turn like this, where they're issuing warrants for the arrest of people without masks on, and that sort of thing.
	There must be some sort of Antipodean solar disorder that is caused from, you know, being at Bondi Beach hanging ten for too long, something like that.
	Could this be another example of the gargantuan gap between political elites and the electorate, whether it's Brexit in the UK, whether it's the
	Trump phenomena that you chronicled in your your book about my former boss or whether it's this as you say It's hard to imagine maybe the Mongolians perhaps I have not a lot of experience with Mongolians But it's hard to imagine a more masculine robust forthright individual Nation than the Australians and for them to just just roll over onto their backs Is this another could this be an example just of how?
	How putrid modern politics has become and how disconnected from the people they're meant to serve, Lord Black?
	I guess it could be, Sebastian, but I just can't imagine the Australians being an example of that.
	I mean, we're accustomed to the sloth and paying paying guilt to organized labor and the small farmers and so on you get in Europe, which is largely an exhausted continent from from centuries of warfare and terrible wars in the 20th century, as well as atrocities beyond the imagination.
	That is more comprehensible and more familiar, but the Austrians are always a robust people in every respect, and it's a splendid country that has never had a day of violence.
	I mean, it's been a heroic participant in foreign wars, but It's not a disturbed society.
	I just don't understand what's going on there.
	I haven't been there for a couple of years.
	Well, we shall see.
	We played the audio of that truck driver yesterday from Australia saying they're going to go on strike.
	They're going to shut down Australia to stop this madness and get rid of that government, if anybody can shut down Australia.
	It's the truckies, as they call them over there, not truckers.
	Let's get back to affairs over here in the United States.
	Lord Black, JustinNews.com is reporting that the Select Committee, quote-unquote, investigating the events of January the 6th, is now seeking the phone records Of Republican lawmakers and others related to the breach on the Capitol.
	Is this going to play well in politics when they want to find out who was calling who on their telephones from the other political party?
	Is this a wise move for Nancy and her cohorts?
	I would have thought not.
	I mean, the FBI effectively revealed, they didn't say it officially, but they leaked very authoritatively, just as you would have seen just on the weekend, that there was absolutely no evidence of any relationship whatsoever between those who led the trespass and led in the relatively minor violence that occurred at the Capitol and anyone to do with the Trump campaign.
	Nothing.
	No connection.
	Zero.
	So the whole point of this is just, as we knew all along, Pelosi trying to smear the former president and the Democrats trying to continue eight months into a very rocky term where everything has turned to dust in their hands.
	They're trying to continue the Trump 8th campaign.
	Especially after this horrible nightmare in Kabul.
	I don't think the public is buying it.
	I think they're tired of it.
	I mean, the former president is gone.
	Some think he was effectively cheated at his office.
	Some do not.
	But that's not the point.
	He's not there.
	And they cannot substitute for exercising their responsibilities this six-year long mudslinging extravaganza they've been that had been conducting against the former president.
	And given that 60,000 people came out to see him on Saturday night, this is not a very wise move, is it?
	No, I mean, the fact is they're all trying to pretend that Trump is dead, that he was like a meteor that passed by.
	I don't mean dead physically, but politically.
	He's a meteor that passed by and he's gone, and he'll be back to business as usual with the Romney-McCain-Bush Republicans.
	It's a fight dream.
	It's not the case.
	He changed the party decisively, and no serious person is going to run for the presidential nomination of the Republicans until Trump has been heard from.
	And if he wants the nomination, as things now stand, he can have it.
	And if he has it, the Republican nominee will win on the basis of this terribly incompetent administration that would be then seeking re-election.
	Well, nobody, absolutely nobody can mobilize people like my former boss Donald Trump.
	The scenes from Saturday night's rally... Look, if I may tell you, I had this exchange with Henry Kissinger the other day and he came with his family to the United States in 1938 and he said that no president except Roosevelt.
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	When did Kissinger tell you that, just now? - What's the deal?
	Well, a couple of weeks ago they were talking about it.
	Wow.
	I mean, Trump's ability to pull the crowds is amazing.
	You remember, I mean, you don't remember anymore than I do, but you will have seen pictures of, in 1944, Roosevelt made a tour of the four main boroughs of New York City.
	Yes.
	On a raw October day in the rain, Wow.
	And three million people lined the streets, half the population of New York City, just to see the president go by at 25 miles an hour and wave at him in the rain.
	Wow.
	And people can't pull crowds like that unless they really have a lot of support.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Incredible.
	Incredible. - Oh, no.
	By the way, this meeting of the Republican members of the Congress, did they call for Biden to resign or anything like that?
	They did not, but the chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, Michael McCaul, said, so they'd literally just been briefed by the intelligence community and by the Pentagon behind closed doors.
	And they came out of the briefing and the chairman said, There is no way that we will rescue all of our citizens by the deadline, and that blood, quote-unquote, will be on Biden's hands.
	And McCall is not a rabble-rouser.
	I've never heard him speak like that.
	America First, what's your name?
	So serious.
	Is it your reckoning that they're going to get this $3.5 trillion thing through the Senate?
	Where are you coming from?
	I don't think so.
	I think everything's changed.
	You know, with the radicals on the left demanding more, And then attacking Nancy from the left.
	I think the calculus on Capitol Hill has changed drastically even before Kabul, and now I think they're in even more turmoil.
	You've got to hand it to her, though.
	She has a very thin majority in the House, and if she got that monster of a bill through, she can still whip her votes through, anyway.
	Yeah, she knows how to do that, but being attacked from the left is never fun.
	No, no.
	Oh, it's an awful mess.
	I mean, it's really, it's appalling.
	You know, I'm officially British and I'm talking to a lot of my, you know, fellow peers and things since the Kabul episode.
	The British are just appalled at everybody.
	I mean, to have a serving lieutenant colonel in the territorial army say what Tommy said, I almost fell off my chair.
	And the man who was decorated by the 82nd Airborne.
	Yes!
	He worked with them.
	Yes, exactly.
	It's gonna get worse.
	It's gonna get worse.
	I'm afraid so.
	Alright, all the best, Conrad.
	Thanks again.
	Thanks, thanks.
	Bye-bye.
	Alright, title for that one.
	Hang on, I gotta find something.
	Hi, what's your name?
	Trying to find JCN.
	Yeah, I got it.
	Okay, great.
	A title for that... What was his core message on the first half?
	Unmitigated disaster of Afghanistan.
	Something like that.
	Yep.
	Biden, Kabul, and the Australians.
	Biden, Kabul, and the Australians.
	Yeah, what do you want to say?
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	Cut 12.
	Copy that.
	Yes.
	Copy that.
	Inspectors have asked these tradesmen to show proof of their QR check-in as well as identification and vaccination records.
	One of the men here is from Campsy and he doesn't have his documentation so he's being sent home.
	He may lose a chunk of his pay too if officers follow through with a fine.
	What is happening to Australia guys, seriously?
	Now they're inspecting the vaccination records of the construction workers.
	I tell you, something's going to break sooner or later.
	But why Australia?
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	Let's share with you some unbelievable audio from and video from Joe Biden, who, as I said yesterday, took a knee inside the White House when a female sports team was there, took a knee As our citizens are trapped in Taliban-controlled territory.
	And instead, he just gave us more examples of his incapacity to function as a normal human being.
	This is Cut Six, the man who bears the title President of the United States.
	In March, we had the honor of welcoming Sue's fiancé and fiancée, Megan.
	Excuse me.
	Megan came and We tried to get her outside playing soccer with us, but it didn't work quite well.
	She's got purple hair.
	You can't remember her name.
	I know she's not a nice guy or gal, Megan Rapinoe, but a lot of people know her name because she's irritating, but it got worse.
	Can anybody tell me what he's trying to say here?
	Because I don't understand.
	Cut seven.
	That's why, by the way, she happens to be in Asia for me right now, but that's why we have a female vice president of the United States of America, who's gonna be, we're gonna have some presidents pretty soon.
	We're gonna have some presidents real soon, and that's why we have a female vice president, because she's in Asia?
	What does that even mean?
	I don't understand.
	But he doesn't either.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Bob in Georgia, line one.
	Welcome, Bob.
	Yes, I think I have a couple of things for you.
	One, Owen, thank you for taking my call, Dr. G. One thing, uh, he slips up whenever, of course, everybody knows he took out troops before taking out the Americans, before taking out equipment, and the reason why we are not sending troops in, out of the airport, because we have troops there, but I've sent troops out of the airport to rescue, and I believe they don't want another Mogadishu on their hands.
	If they send out the 2,500 or 5,000 troops, I can't remember which, outside the wall to do a rescue, they could cut off Yeah, I think he's a coward.
	I think he also wants to have the legacy of being the man who withdrew from Afghanistan.
	So I think there's lots of reasons, but I think the first one is, you're right, the man is a spineless, spineless husk of a man.
	Let's go to Susan, also in Georgia.
	Line 4.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	I just want to say, how many times have we heard Biden insist, with tears in his eyes, that he went through with this withdrawal in order to spare American sons and daughters?
	Yet now, how many sons and daughters are going to die?
	Probably more than die in the actual battle.
	I mean, he's such a hypocrite.
	Yeah, I know, but is there any point in pointing that out?
	At this point?
	We just have to get him out of the office, don't we?
	I mean, we know they're all hypocrites, right?
	Don't we?
	Oh, yes.
	Unfortunately, it's been made very clear.
	He doesn't care.
	I mean, he said it before.
	It's that quote from Richard Holbrook's autobiography that we discussed two days ago, that Kayleigh McEnany quoted on Fox News, talking about the Afghans back then.
	He used the F word.
	We don't effing care.
	They'll die, so what?
	That's who he is.
	That's who he's always been.
	This man has no soul.
	He has no moral compass.
	This is a man who's corrupt, just corrupt to the core.
	Look, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
	Look at his son.
	Look at Hunter Biden.
	Look at his brother Frank.
	This is a criminal cartel.
	That's all it is.
	And the idea that he'd do anything in the interests of fellow Americans if he didn't make money out of it, or if it didn't give him power, It's not happening, Susan.
	Thank you for your calls.
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	Shocking images from Kabul every single day.
	It's not getting better, it's getting worse.
	We're going to talk to somebody who knows exactly how bad it's going to get.
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	Early today, members of Congress were briefed behind closed doors by the leaders of the National Intelligence and Defense Community.
	This is what one of the congressmen had to say.
	We're on the cusp of the biggest mass hostage crisis this country has ever seen.
	cuts.
	We are on the cusp of the biggest mass hostage crisis this country has ever seen.
	This will make 1979 in Tehran look like a sleepover.
	We cannot abandon Americans.
	We never leave a fallen comrade.
	And if Joe Biden doesn't extend that deadline and tell the Taliban, we are going to extend it or else.
	We're going to leave Americans behind 11 days before the 20th anniversary of September 11th?
	Are you kidding me?
	He's the first Green Beret to ever serve in Congress.
	He's the author of Warrior Diplomat, and like the thousands of Green Berets I've come to know over the years, he is also a quiet professional, so he doesn't use language like that lightly, and he's a very busy man, but he's made time for us.
	Congressman Mike Waltz, Florida's 6th Congressional District, welcome to America First.
	Hey, good to be with you.
	Good to be with you, Seb, and you understand More than most.
	How so many hearts are broken, but how so many of us in the Special Operations community are just so outraged right now.
	And this, not this lack of leadership, a total capitulation, this surrender, as we head into the 20th anniversary of 9-11.
	We've got the Taliban dictating to the Commander-in-Chief And we're leaving Americans behind because of a made-up deadline, made up somewhere in the recess of Biden's mind.
	It's just outrageous.
	So, like me, you must be receiving every single day texts, emails, DMs of people who want your help, have friends, former interpreters, colleagues stuck in Afghanistan.
	Let me just ask you, given what we're seeing coming out of the White House, given what you heard in that classified briefing, it's only just begun, has it not?
	Yeah, this is this is going to go from from bad to worse.
	A couple of things I can't obviously can't share all the details from the briefing, but a couple of key points.
	One, we continue briefing after briefing to see a total disconnect between what Biden's team tells us behind closed doors.
	And then what Biden says in person where we hear everything is hunky dory and fine behind closed doors.
	The defense department is telling us they're prepared to keep Kabul open longer than 31 August, if directed to by the White House.
	And they're also telling us that it's not a matter of if, but when al Qaeda 3.0 comes roaring back.
	And, Seb, you know what happens in Afghanistan doesn't stay in Afghanistan.
	It spreads like a cancer.
	And I know there's a lot of people out there that say too hard, too long, too expensive.
	But you know what?
	That terrorism problem Al Qaeda, ISIS, and the rest will follow us home, and I want to fight it over there, not back here.
	But here's the thing.
	It's going to be worse than 2001, because now we have no local allies.
	They're being hunted down as we speak.
	We've got no bases.
	Biden gave them all away.
	And we have a Taliban, Al Qaeda, and ISIS that are armed to the teeth.
	With our own equipment, $85 billion of artillery, heavy weapons, night vision, body armor, that future American soldiers are going to have to go back and fight through.
	All of that blood is going to be on Biden's hands, and this Congress is going to make sure of it.
	So let me ask you the very simple question, the naive question.
	You're a graduate of the JFK school, you did the Q course, you got the Green Beret, you've been an operator in theater, you've written the book Warrior Diplomat.
	Can America, yes or no, can America, does it have the military capability to rescue every single one of the people we need to rescue?
	Because this administration, even Lloyd Austin said, probably not.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely, they do.
	And I am in touch with special operators that are there right now, telling me their hands are being tied.
	This is not a capability problem.
	This is a total lack of political will.
	This is a viewpoint coming out of this White House that thinks America is part of the problem, that the people around Biden are the same people that were around Obama when we had Benghazi, when we had Bo Bergdahl, And when we had the disastrous pullout of Iraq that led to an ISIS caliphate the size of Indiana.
	They just don't get it.
	And right now they're lying to the American people about the consequences.
	Utterly, utterly shocking.
	We're going to dedicate the whole of the next hour to somebody who was there.
	Originally, when we had a hostage crisis back in the 1970s, in the sit room, the Deputy National Security Advisor to the Trump administration, KT McFarland, here on America First.
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	Mike's on.
	Title for Waltz?
	Yes, we can rescue... Biden's lying, colon.
	We can rescue everybody.
	Biden's lying, we can rescue everybody.
	Uh-huh.
	Do you have all the titles? - Yeah.
	Uh, yes.
	Featured in YouTube and all that.
	Any calls?
	I'd say.
	Sort of.
	All right, stand by.
	Thank you.
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	So get the podcast because you want to hear what she has to say about what's really going on in Kabul.
	But let's go to your calls.
	Mark in Cleveland, line one.
	Welcome, Mark.
	Dr. Gorka, is this the Nebuchadnezzar of military knowledge with a compendium of military facts and military history on his shoulders?
	I don't know.
	You need to have a really big schnoz to be Nebuchadnezzar.
	I think those profiles on the walls that they carved show... Maybe I've got that Aquiline nose.
	I'll take it.
	I'll take it.
	What's your comment, Mark?
	Thank you kindly.
	Well, I wanted to state, first of all, that I was a young guy at that time, but I was involved in the evacuation of people from Saigon.
	Oh my gosh, really?
	And we were going in 21 Tactical Airlift Squadron, flying in, pulling people out, and this is ten times worse.
	I'll guarantee you.
	Why?
	Is somebody involved in that one?
	Explain to us why it's worse.
	Excuse me, sir?
	Explain why it's worse this time.
	Oh, it's...
	See, at that time, most of the Americans were out, and we were operating from Taiwan.
	All the 130s, I was there in 1972, for the last offensive in the spring, and we were running troops left and right.
	We came in from Taiwan, helping out.
	Hello, Dr. Gorga.
	from Khantum to Unlock to all these places.
	They were like a fire brigade.
	But they did very well, and when it was time to pick them up, we'd pick them up, go to the next place where there's problems.
	And this time it's the reverse.
	We left them there, then we shut down the airfield.
	I think, sadly, you're right.
	Stay on the line, Mark.
	Let's give you a signed copy of Defeating Jihad.
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	Matt, welcome to America First.
	Hello, Dr. Gorgon.
	Thanks for taking my call.
	Sure.
	I know you don't want to hear this because you gave the perfect explanation, but the only way to save this country is to get rid of the Biden administration, including Nancy Pelosi, which I told Mr. G.
	Do you agree?
	All right.
	Absolutely.
	We have to get rid of them.
	2022 has to be a rout in the House and the Senate, and then President Trump has to run again, and then we need to take back the White House.
	But right now, they're going to stay there because they accept no responsibility, Matt.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you kindly.
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	None of those three-minute-long segments that you normally get, but a serious discussion on serious issues with serious people.
	And this time, I am delighted to be with somebody who I consider not only A former colleague, a great American, but also a friend, former deputy national security advisor in the Trump administration.
	She is, she's, well, let's just say the institutional memory of the national security establishment when it comes to the good guys.
	Author of Revolution, Trump, Washington, and We the People, Katie McFarlane.
	Welcome to America First One-on-One.
	It's always great to be with you, Sebastian.
	Thanks so much for having me on.
	So we have so much to discuss with regards to the disasters occurring in Central Asia in the last two weeks.
	But let's start by those who may have just accidentally happened on this channel, found us on Rumble, downloaded this podcast.
	Tell them a little bit about who KT McFarland is.
	When she started to get involved in national security issues and then your climb to the heights of power in the White House under the Trump administration.
	Starting in 1970.
	I was a freshman in college at George Washington University and got partial scholarship but had to pay the rest of my way through school so I got a part-time typing job in the West Wing of the White House in the White House Situation Room working for a guy who wasn't very well known at the time by the name of Henry Kissinger, and he was Richard Nixon's national security advisor.
	So I started working part-time in the nighttime piping pool for Henry Kissinger in the West Wing, and then worked in the Nixon administration, the Ford administration, went to graduate school.
	During the Carter administration, went to Oxford University and then MIT, where I studied and taught nuclear weapons.
	Then joined the Reagan administration when we won the Cold War, was part of the Pentagon team that helped win the Cold War, got the Pentagon's highest civilian award for that service.
	And then I retired.
	We had won our Cold War.
	My war was won and done.
	And so I married, had five kids, was living a good life in New York and in Long Island.
	And then September 11th happened.
	And it convinced me to get back into government because I had such a pretty, I mean, I had such extensive experience at that point.
	So I did.
	And I ran for the U.S.
	Senate against Hillary Clinton in New York and lost, predictably.
	But I did get back involved in a lot of issues and then became the Fox News national security analyst for over a decade until I joined the Trump administration, which I did at the beginning.
	And so here I am out of the Trump administration and back on talking to important people like you about issues I care deeply about, which are national security.
	I'll just say, a unique expanse of experience and expertise.
	So let's start with an obvious place to begin our conversation.
	You've seen numerous exigencies, disasters, emergencies affecting America's national security establishment.
	Let's start with a simple comparison, KT McFarland.
	Follow this lady right now on Twitter at Real KT, the letters KT McFarland.
	Is it unwise?
	Is it too simplistic to compare the fall of Kabul under Biden to the fall of Saigon?
	Give us your take on that comparison.
	Well, I was actually in the White House Situation Room the night of the fall of Saigon.
	I was It was in April 1975, and America had fought, and at least fought to a standstill, the Vietnam War.
	And similarly to today, we were surrounded by North Vietnamese Viet Cong communist forces and were forced to evacuate our forces and along with any South Vietnamese allies who had helped us for the Vietnam War.
	And it was a humiliating time for America.
	Not only had we lost a war, But we were forced to evacuate and it was at a low point of American foreign policy and I remember being in a situation room where I was receiving, they were called cables at the time, you'd probably call them emails or text messages today, from the then ambassador to the American ambassador to Vietnam where he was saying, we just need a few more hours, we have just another plane load or two, we're evacuating all the American, all the American military.
	We later found out that what they were doing was trying to evacuate as many as possible of the Vietnamese allies that had helped us.
	So it was a low point in American foreign policy and history because it showed to the world, or the face it gave to the world, was America's incompetence.
	America can't fight wars and win them.
	It's the end of time.
	America's days are done.
	And it fed into the notion that at that time the Soviet Union was going to replace America as the world's dominant power.
	And slowly but surely The United States turned that around, especially with the election in 1980 of Ronald Reagan, where he rebuilt the American military.
	He stood up for the United States again.
	He reinstated American values.
	He fixed the American economy.
	And within a decade after that, we had one full war.
	So we completely reversed that Vietnam syndrome, and it only took us, well, it took us maybe 10 or 15 years to do it.
	My worry today is, in a lot of ways, it's worse.
	Because the symbol of the United States with this shambolic, incompetent withdrawal from Afghanistan, which I was very much in favor of.
	I was in favor of getting out of Afghanistan 15 or 20 years ago.
	But when we had defeated al-Qaeda in December of 2001, but we stuck around al-Qaeda, Afghanistan for 20 years to build the nation, which was always going to be a failed mission.
	But it's not the decision to get in or get out.
	It's the way it was done.
	And the Biden administration, even though everybody knew for 20 years we were getting out of Afghanistan, and we knew for at least a couple of years that the Taliban would eventually take over and be pretty ruthless, they seem to be caught so unprepared.
	So what should have been an orderly and a sad moment in American foreign policy, I think it now could be a watershed moment for American stature in the world.
	You know, the world is looking at us.
	And saying, Jesus, they fight a ragtag militia army for 20 years.
	They can't beat them.
	And now, look, they can't even get out.
	And the Chinese are in the same role that the Soviet Union was in the middle 1970s, where the Chinese are going around the world saying, America is done.
	It's an inevitable decline, irreversible decline.
	The world is going to belong to China in the 21st century.
	And they say to our allies and our adversaries, You better come aboard while you can, because America's finished.
	So, when I look back at that, this is a long answer to a question that's pretty simple.
	The Soviet Union was never much of an adversary at the end of the day, because they had a very small economy, and we beat them on technology and the economy.
	That's how we won the Cold War.
	Today, the adversary, China, has a very large economy, large population, and it is striving to be The technology capital of the world.
	So China's a much more formidable adversary, and it's much more tenacious.
	So I think we have a few years to turn it around.
	Not much.
	But if we have the right people elected in 2022 and 2024, we can do for the United States what Ronald Reagan did.
	If we don't, then I really do think America's a once great nation that is replaced by China.
	We'll talk about China.
	We have time to talk about China.
	We're talking to KT McFarland, author of Revolution.
	But let's talk about the last few days.
	Your reaction to seeing a president come back from vacation, give a 16-minute speech, don't take any questions, and then go back to vacation as up to 40,000 Americans are stuck as potential hostages in Afghanistan.
	This just feeds this notion that America's incompetent and doesn't know what it's doing.
	We can get our people out, but not if we behave the way we're doing.
	Blinken say, hopefully we'll get everybody out, but we don't have the capacity to do so now.
	Your reaction, Katie?
	This just feeds this notion that America is incompetent and doesn't know what it's doing.
	We can get our people out, but not if we behave the way we're doing.
	I mean, with President Biden, they're just lying.
	And the media is just sort of lapping it up, saying, oh, right, President Biden, you're great.
	What kind of ice cream do you like?
	And they're not really calling him or his administration to account.
	But let's fast forward a couple of weeks.
	I mean, I've spent some time in Afghanistan.
	And there are Americans, there are thousands of Americans all over the country.
	They're not in downtown Kabul trying to get to the airport.
	And they're in small groups.
	There'll be like two Americans teaching at a school in Herat.
	Or maybe five Americans who were part of a farmer's cooperative teaching Afghans how to farm with modern irrigation and solar pumps.
	And those are the people who are being left behind.
	They have no way to get to Kabul.
	Even if they had a car and they tried to get there, they'd have to go past checkpoint after checkpoint after checkpoint of tribal leaders and 20-something guys who are all hopped up with their AK-47s looking to shoot at Americans.
	I think this gets much, much worse.
	And it gets particularly bad because there'll be hostage taking.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We can discuss the ramifications for all of these issues for hours, but we're trying to get to the largest geopolitical ones with Katie McFarland, former Deputy National Security Advisor in the Trump administration, author of Revolution, Trump, Washington and We the People.
	KT, let's pull out of the environment in Kabul and Afghanistan.
	Let's look at the broader ramifications, not just with regards to China and Pakistan and India, but to our allies.
	You have a better institutional memory than I do.
	I only moved to America 13 years ago, became an American citizen eight years ago.
	Has there ever been, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think there's ever been a moment where A chairman of the British Parliament's Foreign Affairs Committee has called the incumbent President of the United States in contempt and used very, very tough language about a president
	Questioning the dignity and the sacrifice of America's allies and partners.
	Has that ever happened before?
	Has it happened just a few days ago with the Lieutenant Colonel Tom Tugendhat and President Biden?
	No, and that's a really serious, I think, a really serious potential inflection point.
	The United States has led the world since the Industrial Revolution for over 100 years.
	We won World War One for the allies, for our European allies.
	We won World War Two.
	We were the necessary and essential nation to establish the post-World War II peaceful world and the peace that we've enjoyed for decades since then.
	And yet, somehow, just with this completely shambolic, I think unforgivable chaos of the Biden administration, and followed on by their incompetence, their callousness of Oh, the Afghan allies.
	Who cares about them?
	They don't fight.
	Oh, the European allies fall into line.
	And even the callousness of, really, frankly, about American citizens.
	They know they're going to leave American citizens behind.
	And yet they refuse to acknowledge it.
	So I think good for the British and good for others for calling us out.
	Because, you know, Joe Biden was elected to say, I'm back.
	America's back.
	We're going to be the leader of the world.
	And yet, what are they busy doing?
	They're not leading, they're not rescuing Americans, they're not helping allies.
	They're spinning, they're whinging, they're looking for people to blame.
	They're not acting like Americans should act.
	Just stand tall, accept the reality of the situation, fuck it up, and get the job done.
	So let me share with you, if you haven't heard it already, I tweeted this out late last night when it was sent to me by Well, let's just say individuals in the know.
	I have it on very solid authority, and I've made it public.
	That there are special operations assets inside Kabul International Airport and the current incumbent of the White House is refusing KT McFarland to provide JSOC the authority for those units to leave KIA and to find our US citizens.
	How long can that last?
	And what are the consequences of that decision from Joe Biden?
	I had not heard that, but I guess I'm not surprised.
	We have 5,000, probably more, highly seasoned combat troops in Kabul, and they're kind of hanging out at the airport.
	They're being surrounded by Taliban fighters.
	You know, ragtag militia, half of them are illiterate, and yet the Americans are not leaving that safe perimeter, that green zone.
	They're not leaving to go out into Kabul to find the Americans and give them safe passage And transit to the airport to get on an aircraft to leave.
	In addition to that, the Taliban now have the most sophisticated military in the world.
	Because they've got all of our old weapons.
	And our old weapons were pretty good.
	And they thought that in this third world airport, which I'm sure you've been to.
	I've been to a number of them.
	There's one runway.
	It's a third world facility.
	And all it would take is one RPG.
	And it would take out that one runway and then we wouldn't have any way of getting out of the country.
	And if Joe Biden, who has the forces there, and just, I guess he just doesn't want the PR problem of maybe some American combat forces might get shot at while trying to rescue Americans.
	I mean, I guess that's the only cowardice explanation I can give, but I find that reprehensible.
	You know, we used to have presidents who, no matter what, they never left Americans behind.
	This guy can't be bothered to just drive, you know, have his people drive down the street and pick him up.
	Let's talk about the difference in presidencies.
	So if you look at who Jake Sullivan, the National Security Advisor, incredibly for the United States, and also Antony Blinken, the Secretary of State, worked for in the past, they were both bag carriers.
	For Susan Rice, who is the Chief of the Domestic Policy Council in the Biden White House, of course, a position that does not have to be congressionally approved.
	There are many who are saying that Rice is the person in command, truly, and her flunkies are the faces of these disastrous policies.
	Can we contrast the lack of decisiveness from the Biden White House with what you experienced, what I experienced in the Trump White House, which was a man who wanted to hear all the arguments from the Hawks, from the Doves, whatever it was, and that at the end of the day, he would make a decision and it was his decision.
	Can you comment on the contrast and on the question, Katie, of who's really running America?
	Let me just preface that by saying that Donald Trump talked to, on the phone, the man who's now the Taliban leader of Afghanistan.
	And he said to him, we know where you live, we know where your family is, we know where your extended family is, and Americans are leaving.
	And if a hair on the head of any American is hurt, if you threaten Americans, if you attack Americans, we are coming to get you.
	Not just to get you, to get your family, to get your extended family.
	So we want your cooperation and getting us out of there.
	Now, did anybody doubt that Donald Trump would have happily ordered an attack on a Taliban headquarters somewhere in Afghanistan?
	He would have happily done it and he would have owned it and he would have taken responsibility for it.
	The Biden team is just so nervous about doing anything that might potentially give them a bad headline that they're not protecting Americans.
	We had a transition, Sebastian, which you were part of, the transition from the Obama administration to the Trump administration.
	And what happens, that's the period of time after the election and before the inauguration.
	And that's when the old team, in this case Susan Rice was the National Security Advisor, she briefed me and several others about the issues at hand.
	So you have a pretty smooth handoff between one administration to the next.
	I sat in her office and She and her staff brought out huge flowcharts with photographs and pictures, and they started giving us briefings on this tribe in Afghanistan, that leader in Afghanistan, this ethnic group.
	And they had this very complicated flowchart.
	She talked about all the aid we were giving the various groups, the Taliban groups, as well as the forces fighting for the Afghan, but then Afghan government.
	And I asked one simple question.
	I said, well, this is all great, very complicated and very thorough, but what's your measurement for success?
	You're putting a lot of money and effort into this.
	How do you know you're succeeding?
	How are you assessing the results of your actions?
	And she looked at me like I was from the moon, and she didn't have anything to say.
	And I realized then, you know, this is a bunch of academics who are studying the issue, and I think if you just throw a little more money at it, a little more time, A little more resources, a few more American bodies, well, it's all going to be fine.
	It's not about the outcome, it's all about the process.
	And I have no doubt that Susan Rice, who was intimately involved and oversaw the most minute detail of the American military operation in Afghanistan during the Obama administration, I'm sure that she's running it now for the Biden administration.
	Yeah, let's just put some figures.
	They didn't have metrics for success.
	Of course, they didn't.
	But they'll lecture us on what is it white rage in America.
	We have spent $60 million per day in Afghanistan since September the 11th.
	And we have people doubling down on the nation building mission.
	Let's listen to the current incumbent, the man who bears the title President of the United States.
	This was just a few weeks ago, back in June, Joe Biden.
	Started off, there were going to be negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan National Security Forces and the Afghan government.
	That didn't come to fruition.
	So the question now is, where do they go from here?
	That, the jury is still out.
	But the likelihood there's going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.
	Is highly unlikely.
	Well, we witnessed it in the space of 10 days.
	KT McFarland, former Deputy National Security Advisor.
	Will anybody pay the penalty?
	Will Biden survive that comment?
	Are his days numbered?
	Is Kamala coming?
	What is your gut instinct as somebody who's been in the swamp and fought swamp creatures for decades?
	Well, I don't think history repeats itself.
	It always rhymes.
	And I believe Joe Biden's presidency is now finished.
	He will never be able to shake The image of a president who seems uncaring, who doesn't seem to be in charge, who seems befuddled, and is either incompetent or lying to the American people.
	And I would compare that to Jimmy Carter in the last two years of his administration, where everything started going off the rails.
	The economy, energy prices, Americans were taken hostage, American diplomats taken hostage in Tehran by a bunch of radical student Islamic extremists.
	And Jimmy Carter was unable to mount a successful rescue mission to bring them home.
	They never came back until Ronald Reagan was elected.
	But it was that point, that perception of incompetence and being in over his head that Jimmy Carter had that doomed his presidency and doomed his re-election.
	I think we're already there with Joe Biden.
	He will never be re-elected.
	But does he stay the president?
	Does he finish out his first term?
	He'll have one term and he may make it through a first term.
	But remember, he'll never have a second term.
	And who's going to be leading the Democrats into a second term election in 2024?
	An election where the Democrats are held wholly responsible for the failures in Afghanistan, for the failures in our economy, the failure of our Middle East policy, the failure of our Russian policy, the failure of our Chinese policy, the high inflation and the high gasoline prices.
	The Democrats aren't going to be able to blame Donald Trump at that point, and they'll have one standard-bearer to explain their position to the American people, and that's Kamala Harris, who the more you see her, the more you dislike her.
	Probably the single most unpopular woman in the United States.
	A woman who cackles, who laughs, laughs!
	You saw the video when she landed and got off the plane and somebody asked her about the disaster in Afghanistan and she started laughing.
	We're talking to the author of Revolution, Trump.
	Washington and we of the people, Katie McFarland, former National Security Advisor to President Trump.
	Katie, let's turn to the question of what happens next.
	You said You described how Ronald Reagan turned things around and he did remarkably from the miasma, the morass, the malaise of the Carter years to turn America's not just domestic prosperity but international standing around in a matter of just Absolutely.
	I'm going to spend the next year or so looking around the country.
	we not if the right man or woman is in the White House?
	These are dark, dark days as tens of thousands of Americans are stuck in Taliban controlled Afghanistan.
	But it has been done before and it can be done again, can it not, if the requisite leadership is evinced from the oval? - Absolutely.
	I'm gonna spend the next year or so looking around the country, who is the right person to take up the mantle?
	The flag is falling in the mud, but there's always a chance to pick it up.
	And America corrects itself.
	And the great thing about the nation, in fact, I write about this at great length in my book, is that we do what makes us exceptional, more exceptional than any nation in the world.
	It's not just democracy and our economic success and our position in the world, but the fact that we fall down and we maybe get, our leaders fail us.
	And when our leaders fail us, the country doesn't just collapse, we just replace those leaders.
	We have a revolution.
	We have a political revolution, and we've got new leaders to take us into different directions.
	I think that's exactly where we are today, and the pent-up demand for American leadership, the thirst for it around the world, will be far greater than it has been probably even when Ronald Reagan was elected.
	And the willingness of the American people to face facts, I think, will be there.
	We just need the right people to take the message, the right leaders, the right people to run for office, not just as president, but across the board, for the Senate, for Congress, for governor, for the state houses around the nation.
	Yes, I think we can reverse it, but we've got to get our act together and get it together pretty fast.
	Did you hear that?
	I'm very excited.
	I didn't hear that.
	I didn't know that before.
	Katie McFarland is going to be the America's first talent spotter, roving the country, finding candidates.
	What a great, great idea.
	I warmly, warmly subscribe.
	And I may be sending a few resumes her way.
	Let's also support another great patriot.
	He is under attack viciously by the left.
	They want to strip him of his law license.
	They want to bankrupt the man.
	He is America's most successful mayor.
	He is investigating the events of last November.
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	Support the man who's done so much for this nation and for the city of New York.
	Let's switch, if I may, KT, to your work, the superb book, Revolution, Trump, Washington, D.C., and, quote, we are the people.
	Let's talk about the Trump phenomena.
	Let's start with a fun one.
	Wouldn't it be nice to be living back in the age of the abrasive tweets, but at least some leadership out of the Oval Office when it comes to national security?
	I sure would be.
	I mean, when we had a president who presided over the most successful economic growth in American history, the president who presided over the best economic situation and employment situation for Americans all across the board, regardless of of ethnic background or color or race or creed?
	You mean the president who said, no more endless wars?
	You mean the president who stood up to China?
	The president who went to the Europeans and said, hey, stop freeloading.
	Let's have you pay your fair share towards our shared and mutual defense.
	The president who stood up to the Russians, who gave the Ukrainians lethal weapons to fight against Russian communism.
	You mean that guy?
	Yeah, I mean that guy.
	Let me put you on the spot then.
	Because, you know, I've had a couple of people surprise me, ardent Trump supporters, who in the last seven months have kind of, I don't know, fallen out of love with our old boss.
	I've seen him recently in Trump Towers in New York.
	We had a chat.
	I was 95% sure he was going to run in 2024.
	After I met him, KT, just between you and me and about three million people, I am now 99.9% sure he's going to run.
	Do you have any issues with the idea of a second term for our old boss, Donald J. Trump?
	No, but what I want him to do is to focus on 2022.
	Because if he wants to be president in 2024, 2025, whoever is going to be president, we need to put the blinkers and the guardrails up on the people who are running the country now.
	The Wokies, Stopped in their tracks.
	We need to have this massive spending stopped in its tracks.
	The incompetent American foreign policy stopped in its tracks.
	The only way we're going to do that is if we take the House and the Senate back from Democrat control in the 2022 election.
	And Donald Trump, I hope and pray that he gets out all around the nation and convinces people of the worthiness of the cause of Republicans.
	Because, you know, the one thing that I've said to Donald Trump when I've talked to him in the last several months is, You know, that 2020 election, whatever happened at the top, put that aside for a minute.
	If you look at the policies, the Trump policies, economic policies, foreign policies, employment policies, all across the board, Operation WorkSpeed, Americans were elected on Trump policies in the state houses all around the country, in Congress and in the U.S.
	Senate.
	So the country really loves those policies.
	And if Donald Trump can get the country Behind him again in 2022 and behind Republicans who are espousing those policies in 2022, take the House and the Senate, and then 2024, any Republican should take the White House back, Donald Trump or others, whatever he chooses.
	Okay, T, our former colleague and friend, General Flynn, Mike Flynn, he used a very powerful phrase back in 2015 and 2016, and he talked about the America first, the MAGA movement, the election of A non-politician to the highest office in the land as a peaceful resolution.
	I subscribe to that.
	You use that very, very powerful word as a title for your book.
	You call it revolution.
	Why do you use that phrase?
	And how significant was the fact that for the first time in our history, we elected a person who wasn't a retired general or a politician?
	I was a foreign policy establishment person my whole life.
	You very kindly asked me to go through my resume at the beginning of our conversation.
	I was, like, at the heart of the American foreign policy establishment.
	But I broke with them, because I think for 20 years, the so-called smarty-pants experts, they got it all wrong.
	They got the Middle East wrong.
	They got the forever wars wrong.
	They took their eye off the ball of China.
	And allowed China to get to where China is today.
	They were certainly wrong about the massive expenditure and growth of government.
	So I broke with them and I supported Donald Trump as a revolutionary because he wanted to sweep away the incompetent, corrupt, stale American leadership of both political parties that had been governing Washington for far too long.
	So I consider myself, I don't look like one, but I'm a real revolutionary at heart.
	And that's why I supported Donald Trump.
	I still support those policies.
	I still think that our so-called expert class, you know, the smarty-pants guys, look at how they're handling the evacuation from Afghanistan.
	These guys are not so smart.
	That's why it's really important that we elect the right leaders and get out of the Washington mindset because it's stale, it's corrupt, and it's incompetent.
	She may not look like a revolutionary, but her heart beats with the beat of 1776.
	The book is Revolution.
	Get it today and follow this lady on Twitter as well.
	KT, let me just get your reaction to one thing the Smarty Pants elite has done.
	Again, this is from my sources.
	This is somebody in...
	Let's just say Virginia government office who informed me that 800 Afghan nationals were very quietly deposited at Dallas Airport two days ago and the escorting officers were given the following orders, KT.
	If anyone of these foreign nationals, once they hit the concourse, decides to separate from the group you are escorting, you are not to follow them or impede them.
	Your reaction to the smarty-pants elite that ordered that behavior with people who have not been vetted but have simply been shoved on a military transport in Kabul?
	Well, unless these guys are deep undercover agents working for the United States government, I think somebody's making a major mistake.
	We need to vet the people who are coming in this country.
	The fact that the Biden administration has effectively opened the borders where we don't know who's here, who's coming, who's going, what they're up to.
	It's not too dissimilar for the incompetence where the Pentagon spokesman was asked, well, who's in Afghanistan?
	How many Americans are in Afghanistan?
	Well, I don't know.
	You know, ask somebody else.
	It's the same attitude that has gotten us into the mess that we're in.
	I'm all for having Afghan allies and refugees into the United States, but only if they've been vetted.
	Yeah, only if they've been vetted.
	The book is Revolution Trump, Washington, D.C., and We the People from our friend, former Deputy National Security Advisor in the Trump administration, Doyen, of the National Security Establishment, and now America's first patriot.
	The book Revolution, get it today.
	KT, in the last few minutes we have with you, what is your message?
	Let's talk first about China.
	Everybody's focused on Afghanistan.
	Everybody's focused on Kabul and the disastrous decisions coming out of the Biden administration.
	Let's just put that on the side for a couple of minutes.
	I was convinced after my time in the White House, I came in as a counter-terrorism bod, working for Bannon, working on the Defeat ISIS plan, etc.
	But once I got my clearances, once I read the TS briefs, the top-secret briefs, I realized that we'll deal with Iran, we'll deal with Russia, we'll deal with ISIS.
	The only peer strategic threat we face is China.
	Do you share that observation?
	Yes, I do.
	And the only way we can deal successfully with China is with our allies and convince them that America's leadership is strong and that they should throw their lot in with us and not cut and run and make their separate deals with the Chinese.
	The Chinese know they can't, they can't deceit us.
	They can't change the world.
	They can't turn the world, the 21st century, into the China century unless they deceit us one at a time.
	Europe one at a time, Japan one at a time, Korea, the United States one at a time.
	If we band together, then we are the formidable group that China cannot defeat.
	And then we will continue to have a 21st century that's governed by laws, fair play, free market capitalism, etc.
	And that's why I find what President Biden is doing right now, where our allies are saying, Jesus, the guy's not up to the job.
	What a mess.
	I find that really very difficult to take because in the long run, are they going to be there when we really need them, which is for China, or will we have pushed them away by our own incompetence?
	I don't know.
	And how clearly, how clearly did our former boss, President Trump, understand the threat of China, Katie?
	You know, there was a montage during the 2016 election that I forget which network put together, and they thought they were being funny.
	And they had Donald Trump saying, China, China, China.
	And a lot of different times, a lot of different venues.
	And it's at the same time Joe Biden was saying to the country, hey, come on, man, China, they're our friend.
	They're not going to eat our lunch.
	They're nothing much.
	And yet Donald Trump was saying, China, China, China.
	Well, now look who's proven right.
	Donald Trump was right.
	It is China.
	And Joe Biden, caught unawares, whether it's China or Afghanistan or what flavor ice cream he wants.
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	Last question to Katie McFarland, our good friend, the author of Revolution, Trump, Washington, D.C., and We the People.
	Mike Lindell is not one to be intimidated.
	Neither are you.
	You are a truth teller.
	You are a swamp monster slayer.
	What is your message to those Americans who, A, After last November's results have just given up and said, well, there's no point anymore.
	It's done.
	America's finished.
	Or to those who for similar reasons have given up, but because less of a resignation, but more because they are simply intimidated by the woke culture, the mask mandates, the shuttering of the economy.
	What is your message to those people who've either given up for either of those reasons?
	Ronald Reagan probably said it best when he said, each generation has to fight for its freedom.
	It doesn't come down to us and our DNA and our bloodstream.
	We have to work for it.
	And I think that's the great challenge of this generation of Americans.
	Are you going to just throw up your hands and say, gee, I couldn't make a difference, or it was too hard, or hey, it wasn't really worth it?
	Or are you going to fight on the front lines?
	You know where the front lines now are?
	In school board meetings.
	They're PTA meetings.
	That's where the really bad guys and the woke culture and the socialists, that's where they've infiltrated.
	That's where you've got to meet them.
	Don't fight them on the battleground where you're going to lose.
	Fight them on the battleground where they're winning.
	And that's to get involved and get local.
	You don't have to run for Congress.
	Run for the head of the PTA.
	In fact, why don't you even just run for class parent rep?
	And then make your voice known.
	That's the way to start.
	That's the way to finish.
	And that's the way to win.
	That's how we take back America, one district, one PTA association at a time, until we are once again the shining city on a hill.
	Well, Katie, thank you for everything you have done and continue to do for this, the greatest nation on God's Earth.
	And who knows, maybe we'll be colleagues again.
	In the meantime, follow her at RealKTMcFarland on Twitter and get her book Revolution.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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