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Aug. 9, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Obama's magical party

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	They're following all the safety precautions.
	People are going to sporting events that are bigger than this.
	This is going to be safe.
	This is a sophisticated, vaccinated crowd.
	And this is just about optics.
	It's not about safety.
	It's a sophisticated, vaccinated crowd.
	Oh, yes, indeed.
	Because I write for the New York Times.
	Greetings, my friend.
	It's Monday, and the list of things to discuss is insane!
	What is it with Mondays lately?
	Welcome to America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	We have an amazing show for you today.
	But first things first, let's talk about history.
	I don't mean ancient fasty history of emperors and kings and courtiers.
	I'm talking about personal history.
	Let's talk about that soundbite for a moment.
	When someone from the New York Times on CNN says, what do you mean?
	What do you mean Obama had a super spreader party with no masks and no social distancing on Martha's Vineyard?
	Everyone there was a sophisticate.
	Yes, indeed.
	And there's some magical power when you're just so educated and you go to Georgetown University and hang out on Martha's Vineyard.
	The coronavirus can't have any effect on you.
	Let's do a little survey.
	I've had a couple of big parties in my time.
	Yes.
	The two largest were my 21st at a certain tapas bar in central London.
	A rather fancy one.
	And then my 50th!
	Just last year, which was a real... Wow.
	That was a party.
	But the strange thing is... Not once.
	Not for any of those parties.
	Not in college.
	Not when I was in the army.
	Not when I lived in Europe.
	Not when I came here.
	Not for my 50th.
	Not once.
	Not ever.
	Did I have to ask somebody?
	Burn those negatives.
	Delete those photographs!
	Now.
	Let's see if I'm unusual.
	Let's go to Mr. G. Jeff, have you had any parties in your story life so far where you've had to ask after the fact your friends, your relatives to... Don't show anyone those photographs.
	I don't think so.
	Nope.
	Not at all.
	He doesn't think so.
	You're not sure.
	I'm trying to think if I ever had something where I was somewhere I was not supposed to be.
	But I don't remember that.
	That was why I would want the photos deleted.
	So you've been places you shouldn't have been?
	Is that what you're admitting?
	I think everybody has at some point.
	Okay, yes.
	I did climb into Regent's Park once.
	I was wearing... That's one photograph.
	If it had been taken, I might have asked for it to be... I climbed into Regent's Park wearing a full dinner jacket after an event at the RAF club.
	And the top of the fence, the spike, the ornamental spike on the cast iron gate post, caught my trouser leg.
	On my dinner jacket.
	And ripped it wide open.
	It was... Yeah, I looked unusual afterwards.
	Not quite James Bond.
	Let's go to Eric.
	Eric, is there anything in your history that the photographic negatives had to be destroyed?
	Surprisingly, no.
	I went to school in Santa Barbara.
	Good answer.
	Let's go to the old man of the show.
	Many, many decades of rambunctious behavior to hide.
	The professor known to his friends as Shad.
	Any evidence that had to be burnt?
	If all was right and just in the world, the photos would be destroyed, but...
	And you're trying to find them, right?
	Well, I know where they are, just I'm unlucky enough for them to exist.
	I'll just say that much.
	Graduation party, my junior year, Hillsdale College.
	Those photos still exist and they're rather embarrassing.
	What, Hillsdale photographs are embarrassing?
	Was it bobbing for apples?
	Was that not allowed?
	No, it was more of a what-happened-post party.
	I was in a rather compromised position and someone took some photos.
	Now I'm intrigued.
	Now I know there is one person who can relate to Obama on my team.
	But more seriously, dear friends, it's who they are.
	It's the encapsulation of who these people are.
	First things first, why does he buy a 14 million dollar property on an island?
	Didn't AOC tell him that the world's going to end?
	It's not in 12 years now.
	What is it now?
	It must be down to nine years now.
	The world's going to end.
	And if it's going to end, guess what?
	Martha's Vineyard is going first.
	There will be no Martha's Vineyard.
	There'll be the top of the lighthouse.
	You can just about see the roof of it.
	And that's it.
	There'll be the antenna and nothing else.
	And then he has a massive gargantuan party.
	700 people invited.
	And then the photographs inside.
	And as somebody pointed out, what is it with Obama looking like Nelson Mandela?
	I mean, seriously.
	He's got grey hair and he's wearing those strange kind of quasi-Hawaiian shirts and doing a soft shoe shuffle like Mandela used to do.
	What is this?
	It's peculiar.
	Very strange.
	But then, hugging, kissing, taking selfies.
	Oh, and when the DJ takes a photograph.
	Of course, the Brits get hold of it.
	Why?
	Why is it always the British newspapers that have a lock on US politics?
	Is it because we don't have any journalists left perchance in America?
	And then, they have to be deleted.
	You signed your NDA.
	You don't come here as a performer without signing a non-disclosure agreement.
	And you transgressed.
	You will forfeit your fee for playing here.
	Your honorarium is in jeopardy.
	You can't show the world.
	And perhaps that's the key of it all.
	It's not that the photograph was taken.
	It's the preaching from this quote-unquote elite.
	They're not elite.
	They're elitist.
	The problem was that they got caught.
	We are being told right now That our children need to wear masks.
	Again, I saw it today.
	Walking my dogs past the playground, two lovely little children.
	Of course, I don't know if it was the nanny or the parent had her mask down on her chin, but her little charges, her little darlings, full face masks.
	The teachers are demanding it.
	We are being told that you must get vaccinated.
	If you didn't hear it, I rarely do this.
	I know Mr. G is dedicated.
	He listens to the show after the show is broadcast.
	At the weekend, I was somewhere where I didn't have internet and I downloaded our special with Dr. Pappas.
	You've got to listen to it.
	The first hour of the show on Friday.
	Absolutely essential listening for you to understand the problem with the vaccines.
	The importance of therapeutics.
	And the things they do not wish you to know.
	So right now, mandatory vaccinations.
	The story's out today.
	Everybody in the armed forces in September will be forced to put an experimental drug in their body.
	Masks inside buildings for adults.
	What on earth are we doing to ourselves?
	Is it all a conspiracy for the Great Reset?
	I don't buy that.
	It is a combination of incompetence, fear, and fear-mongering.
	It is a natural result of decades and decades of risk aversion.
	The idea that somehow you can coddle humankind to such an extent that you minimize risk to zero.
	It is impossible and you destroy not only freedom, The largest consequence, the most drastic, tragic conclusion to what has happened in the last year and a half, is the psychological damage we have done to our children.
	When you think of how essential it is for a child, a toddler, to establish emotional intelligence with their parent, with their mother, with their father, with their siblings, with other children, through the expressions of the face.
	And we have denied that to them.
	There is no excuse.
	And we have never, ever in the history of mankind, shut down economies and quarantined healthy people.
	It's time to stop.
	It's time to be Americans.
	This is America First.
	You wanted to do food in this next segment? - All right.
	Do we have audio?
	Uh, yes we do.
	And we have every video cut now.
	It's from, uh, The Sage.
	Alright, play it.
	Solomon's Skype now, by the way.
	Oh, okay.
	Thanks.
	America first, hold please.
	Just letting you know, Shadow, I couldn't hear that audio on my TriCaster P.
	What was that?
	I couldn't hear that audio fed to me, by the way.
	It wasn't being fed to me, just letting you know.
	Yeah, I wasn't playing it.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, just making sure.
	You gonna use that, Dr. G?
	Uh, yeah, I'll tell you that.
	Okay.
	I figured it out, by the way.
	What?
	You said Obama's training in Nelson Mandela?
	Yeah.
	That's what Joe Biden was talking about when he said he met Nelson Mandela.
	So he's not a liar, technically.
	He's just senile.
	He's just senile.
	Alright, and we have Mr. Davis on the line.
	Alright, what's your name?
	Alright, where are you calling from?
	Oh, can we put watermarks on things on videos?
	I'll have to ask Cassio.
	Alright, um... It shouldn't be hard.
	Two and a half minutes?
	What is going on?
	Mm-hmm.
	Mr. Davis!
	How are ya?
	Good.
	It's been far too long.
	Yes.
	What is, what burr is under your saddle?
	I see you posted the thing I just mentioned about the Pentagon and mandatory vaccinations.
	Well, there's just the ongoing totalitarian crackdown on anything COVID related.
	The implosion of the Biden administration, the Obama party.
	They get a party while back, but kids don't get to go to school.
	Okay.
	Implosion.
	Biden party.
	And then just the overall totalitarianism.
	That's more than enough.
	That's super fun.
	Perfect.
	Excellent.
	How's business?
	Going well.
	Going well.
	Can't complain.
	Are you going to get some vacation this year?
	Vacation?
	What's that?
	I don't know.
	It's some weird concept somebody in Europe invented.
	I don't know.
	It's like cappuccinos or something, I think.
	I think.
	Oh, can we talk infrastructure?
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Schumer says the final vote on that will be tomorrow night.
	Tomorrow night?
	Okay.
	Alright, 50 seconds and we are live across the nation.
	Stand by.
	I just have to do a live read and then I'll come straight to you.
	Or an embed, whatever they call them.
	I don't know.
	30 seconds, stand by.
	Standing by. Standing
	by. Standing by.
	You're listening to America First with Dr. G. You know when you're having an effect?
	When people start stealing your stuff?
	I'm just seeing a video we posted earlier today that's already had 32,000 likes being stolen by various people.
	Dude, we gotta work out a watermark for our videos.
	It is an incredible, incredible video from a A meeting of an education board in Mount Vernon and a doctor stands up to read the Riot Act about COVID.
	We're gonna play you a clip from it later, but we've got so much work to do.
	First, from the man who, God willing, will be the next governor of California.
	This is Larry Elder about why we are asking you to help the dispossessed in our hemisphere.
	It's a great organization.
	We've raised millions of dollars through Salem for Food for the Poor.
	They primarily assist countries like Haiti and like Guatemala.
	Haiti is the poorest country, as you know, in the Western Hemisphere.
	The average Haitian lives on less than a dollar a day.
	And so we've been saving lives.
	And so it's an organization that I really, really, really love.
	So if you can throw something in the tip jar for Food for the Poor, that would be absolutely great.
	Thank you, Larry, the future governor of California, God willing.
	Listen to the man.
	He's right.
	We have people in our hemisphere who are starving children, who will go to bed this night hungry.
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	First guest of the day, it's been far too long since he's been on the show, Sean Davis of The Federalist.
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	Thank you to all of you who've already donated and who are going to donate today.
	First guest of the day.
	It's been far too long since he's been on the show.
	Sean Davis of The Federalist.
	We love The Federalist, co-founder of The Federalist.
	Let's put up our article right now of the 14 most trusted websites out there.
	One of our most popular articles.
	Let's put it on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	Sean, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you for having me.
	Sean, in the break we just kind of did a little riff on the things we could discuss and the list got rather long rather rapidly.
	Let's put it all under the basket of what I discussed on my Newsmax show last night.
	It's not hyperbole, it's not exaggeration, it's not chicken little.
	We really are seeing an administration that is inching us towards totalitarianism, are we not?
	We are, absolutely.
	You can see it through their mandates, their dictates, their complete rejection of what law requires, what the Constitution requires.
	And at the same time, we're not just seeing this, it's not even creeping anymore, the totalitarianism that's rushing in.
	We're also seeing the ongoing implosion of the Biden admin entire policy regime.
	You see the inflation and an overrun border.
	You see it in wages stagnating once you take inflation into account and it's all a piece of the same puzzle.
	It's all for the same reason.
	These are a bunch of totalitarians who are divorced from reality.
	So let me ask you, I doubt a little bit on this in my monologue.
	Where do you see the impetus for all of this?
	I see a culture of decades of risk aversion.
	I see unaccountable bureaucrats.
	I'm not sure it's Charles Schwab with a joystick preparing for the Great Reset, but some of that has to calculate in at some point.
	Do you see a centre of gravity for more vaccinations, mandatory vaccinations, remaskings?
	Why is this happening in the freest nation in America, Sean?
	Well, I think it happened for a couple reasons.
	Number one, the leftists, which are now largely a cultural Marxist organization ideologically, they've taken over every major institution of power in this country.
	They took over the media, academia, Hollywood, which is the main source of culture-making.
	They've taken over the deep state.
	They've taken over large swaths of the military, as you can see from all the woke generals.
	They're starting to take over sports leagues.
	And when you have that kind of control over every major institution of cultural power, it's only a matter of time before they start demanding certain things out of the government, which, by the way, they also control.
	It's obvious that the Biden administration is completely controlled by these nutjob left-wing progressives, and is the case with all totalitarians everywhere across space and time.
	All they want is power.
	There's never enough.
	So you ask, you know, where are we going with the If they have an opportunity to take power for themselves, they are going to take it.
	And that happens regardless of issue, regardless of what people are particularly afraid of in the moment.
	These are totalitarians.
	Their only principle is power, and they'll stop at nothing to attain it.
	Follow this man, Sean M. Dav, on Twitter.
	Check out the Federalist every single day.
	Bookmark it.
	Sean, where does this go in the next year, year and a half?
	If you look at the fact that Biden is already underwater in terms of disapproval, Kamala Harris never got over water, never got her snorkel above water.
	Is this going to lead to a trouncing in the next elections?
	Or is it just going to be another case of, oh, we're winning.
	Stop the count.
	Four hours later, we're losing.
	Well, yeah.
	If you look at the actual political environment now, it's very bad for Democrats.
	Very bad.
	Their entire agenda is imploding.
	Their numbers are tanking, and those are the numbers that they actually release.
	I can't imagine what the real ones are, because we know so many of these numbers that come out are totally bogus.
	Right.
	So when you take that into account, when you look at history, that a party that took control of Congress and the White House tends to get absolutely slaughtered politically in the next midterm election.
	You would expect Democrats to lose a bunch.
	However, the wild card there is whether we get to have safe and secure elections.
	The wild card is whether we're actually going to make sure one person gets one vote, that no illegal votes are counted, and all legal votes are counted.
	I personally don't think that's something we can just assume glibly will happen.
	That's something we have to fight for and demand from now until basically every election ever, because if the elections aren't safe and secure, It doesn't matter what true popularity or unpopularity is.
	Because as Stalin said, it doesn't matter what the vote counts, it matters who counts the votes.
	We have to make sure we have a safe election.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	We've had senators like Rand Paul, we've had guests on this show, national hosts like Buck Sexton, talk for the need of civil disobedience and mass non-compliance.
	I'm shocked it didn't happen in the last 18 months.
	Do you think it could happen now, Sean, if schools open up and kids have to wear masks?
	Members of the federal administration are forced to have jabs in their arms?
	Well, you know, that's a tough question, I'll admit.
	I'm a bit pessimistic because I saw for the last year, long after it was evident that this was a disease that overwhelmingly affected the elderly and severely immunocompromised, I saw so many people just go along with it.
	They agreed to be locked in their homes.
	They agreed to have their businesses shut down.
	They agreed to lose their jobs.
	They agreed to not go to church.
	They agreed to have their children banned from school, and this went on for a year.
	And we can see it happening again.
	The media and all these leftist cultural institutions are doing everything they can to hype up the panic and the fear so they can repeat 2020 all over again.
	And after the experience of the last year, I gotta be honest, I'm not sure there is A critical mass of people in this country who will do mass non-compliance, because I saw how many people complied with the nonsense over the last year.
	It's up to us, guys.
	It's up to us.
	It's TheFederalist.com, TheFederalist.com.
	Next, your calls, then, Congressman Louie Gohmert and John Solomon.
	and call us 833-33-GORCA.
	That was awesome, Sean.
	We'll send you the links.
	Thanks, guys.
	Take care.
	Say hi to everybody.
	Will do.
	Love you guys.
	Bye-bye.
	All right.
	What did he just say?
	He said, love you guys.
	Aw.
	Aw.
	Probably for that nice shout-out.
	Nobody ever says that.
	That was nice of him.
	That was nice of him.
	That was good.
	Yeah.
	No, that was really good.
	Title.
	He had Nike kind of clipped.
	What, Eric?
	I said, uh, titles?
	Titles.
	I need to take something with me to New Hampshire, don't I?
	Gotta have something behind me.
	Yeah.
	I need to take a flag.
	Can't take all my toys.
	That'd be a good idea.
	Yeah.
	Um... 1A, Alice.
	1A.
	Shad's big secret.
	What is Shad's big secret?
	What's his 1AB?
	Shad gone wild.
	Have you burnt the negatives?
	Just call it that.
	That's good.
	That'll age us.
	That's a Boomer reference.
	Have you burnt the negatives?
	And then for Sean... Yes.
	Has America surrendered?
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	JCN.
	Yes, JCN.
	And then for Jenna... Why Jenna doesn't like J.D.
	Vance?
	Behave.
	How, how, um, from Colorado lawyer to President Trump's legal team or something like that?
	From Colorado to the White House.
	Nice.
	Nice, nice, nice.
	Colorado to the white.
	Now and again, ginger ale is lovely.
	I love ginger ale.
	It's good, especially when you've got a dicky tummy.
	Yep.
	A dicky tummy with ginger or mint tea.
	Mm-hmm.
	Either of those.
	A little bit of honey, not too much.
	Got it.
	Okay.
	Two minutes. - Yes.
	Um... YouTube movies, once again, at the top of their game.
	Force 10 from Navarone.
	Yes!
	Watched it yesterday.
	I never thought I would see a cast quite like that in a single movie.
	You have to pay for those, right?
	No, well, there's ads every now and then, but it's free.
	Yeah, that's... I only watch the free ones.
	I'm not gonna be the YouTube any money.
	But yeah, Robert Shaw and Harrison Ford in one movie.
	That was...
	That was a ride.
	Yeah, my gosh, Harrison Ford, yes.
	A young Harrison Ford, my goodness.
	Carl Weathers, Jaws, from the Bond movies.
	Oh, yeah, as the Serbian... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And Barbara Box, so the two of them together.
	Barbara Box!
	Spy Who Loved Me.
	Also, two of the Germans from the Indiana Jones series.
	The Germans... Oh, they always play Nazis, always.
	Literally, both the German from Raiders and the German from Last Crusade, both in the same movie.
	Priceless.
	Also, the traitor, the spy, was the bad guy in Die Hard 2.
	Frank O'Nero.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	One minute.
	God, nuts.
	One minute.
	One minute.
	It's the anniversary of the Sharon Tate murder.
	Oh, wow.
	My sister used to go to that restaurant, the last restaurant where they were seen alive, the El Coyote, I think it's called.
	She and her friends would go there often.
	Morbid.
	Apparently, it's a good restaurant.
	It's Mexican food, so I'm not crazy about it, but they say it's really good.
	You don't like Mexican food?
	Mexican's good.
	Mexican's great.
	20 seconds, stand by.
	Chimichanga!
	Gonna love that.
	Stand by.
	John Kerry's networking.
	You got the news correct, right?
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Call board is absolutely full.
	We'll get to you right away.
	Hang on, my friends.
	But after a year plus of lockdowns and mandates that have crippled America's economy, our leaders here in Washington, D.C.
	still haven't got the message.
	Small business owners are hurting while the big global competitors are thriving.
	What's the Swamp's response?
	More talk of mandates.
	Unprecedented government spending.
	Schumer's announcing the bill, the quote-unquote infrastructure bill could be signed tomorrow, and of course tax increases.
	The same misguided policies of President Carter that led to soaring gas prices, record inflation.
	An incredible job losses.
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	I'm gonna do one more thing before the calls.
	Don't go anywhere, guys.
	Mark, Regina, Maria, Leonardo, Susan.
	It doesn't matter.
	I gotta pick which article is right.
	One article says 66 people shot in Chicago, 8 killed.
	I find one that was published a few hours later from Breitbart.
	77 people shot in Chicago, 11 killed.
	And one of them is a police officer called Ella French, 29 years old, joined the force three years ago, murdered in a traffic stop.
	Just had a child two months ago, just came back from maternity leave, and now she's a corpse.
	And Laurie Lightfoot has the unabashed audacity To make a statement afterwards saying, just stop, just stop the criticism of my administration.
	No, we won't until you are out of office.
	She's dead because of you and your Democrat cronies undermining the police.
	How dare you tell us to stop our righteous criticism.
	Let's go to Mark, line one, New Jersey.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Now that an innocent policewoman has been murdered in Chicago, along with, as you say, other innocent people, and with her partner fighting for his life, by the way, I'd like to know if Ms.
	Lori Lightfoot and her fellow Democrats in the fake news media will apologize for constantly criticizing, trashing, and in her case, defunding the police, because Doctor, out-of-control crime only hurts the innocent folks.
	In the democrat cities as well as our police officers.
	Thank you, sir.
	Thank you, Mark.
	Let me read the words of Mayor Lightfoot.
	There are some who say that we do not do enough for the police.
	Oh, really?
	You mean because that's what you do and that's what you say?
	Defunding them?
	Just that photograph, you're so right, Mark, of the hundreds of her fellow colleagues outside the hospital where her colleague is fighting for his life.
	She's dead.
	And her child is an orphan.
	Back the blue.
	Like our good friend on Friday, Tim Parrish.
	Support that organisation.
	Let's go to Regina, Oklahoma City, line two.
	Hi, Mr. Gorka.
	I'm calling you again.
	I called you two weeks ago.
	You're my fellow happy warrior Catholic, warrior with me.
	We try.
	We're not always in the best of moods, but we try, Regina.
	That's right.
	Well, so I have a little story to tell you.
	So I sent my daughter to a really good Catholic school here in town.
	And so they decided to do the mask.
	Oklahoma is mask-free.
	Our governor is awesome, and he said the schools are mask-free, the public schools, but private schools are different.
	So our private school decided to do a mask mandate in the hallways, but they don't have to have them in the classrooms or in when they're settled in the cafeteria and places like that, which is really ludicrous because Well, kids have germy fingers, and it adds more germs.
	And of course, my child last year would beg me not to go to school because she would have to wear this mask.
	All right, we've got 30 seconds left, Regina.
	So what are you going to do?
	So I am disenrolling her.
	The principal is begging me not to.
	I'm disenrolling her, and I'm homeschooling her.
	So I'm standing in the breach, and I'm asking other parents to do the same thing, because money talks.
	So we have to talk and say, no more masks for our children, because these are demonic.
	If you are a true Catholic, these masks are demonic.
	This could hurt our children.
	We cannot do it.
	If you believe in this, then we need to stand by our standard.
	God bless you.
	Regina is disenrolling her child.
	She's going to homeschool her.
	Stay and hold the line, all of you proud patriots out there.
	Stay on the line, Regina.
	Let's send you a copy of Why We Fight.
	Don't know how old your girl is, but She'll be able to read that sooner or later.
	Regina, God bless you.
	We need more people like you.
	This is America First.
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	Mics are back on, but I will, I presume, turn them off for the congressman when he's on the line?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	Can you provide that this segment's only eight minutes long?
	Right, yeah, no.
	Oh, good point.
	And the clock will reflect that, right?
	It will.
	Your clock doesn't change ever, it's just my time signature, or my time signs that'll change.
	Time signature.
	I don't know, what am I talking about?
	Got quite a few long video cuts in here.
	Yeah, we gotta get to them.
	The Rand Paul one.
	We got time in the second hour.
	Good.
	Plenty of time in the second hour.
	Yeah.
	I love that Rand Paul is the one speaking out the most considering he's a doctor.
	He's got the most authority, I think.
	Yeah, but aren't there more doctors in the Senate?
	I think Bill Cassidy is a doctor too, but he's not reliable all the time.
	90 seconds. 90 seconds.
	How's it going, Rumble?
	Honored of you.
	Welcome to this wonderful Monday show.
	I'm sure you got a lot of leniency, Dr. G, for that script.
	Oh, okay.
	Rather than... Except for the one... The line that always is the stickler one.
	Okay.
	Alright, standing by for that.
	Might have to kick some... Kill some time there, Dr. G. He's not on yet.
	Mm-hmm.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	Standing by.
	What's that?
	You go ahead.
	Yes.
	You coming in with five?
	Coming in.
	Yep, coming in.
	Alright, wait for a disclaimer, okay?
	Copy that. Copy that.
	Copy that.
	Why did you file that criminal complaint with the sheriff's office?
	It was the right thing to do.
	The governor needs to be held accountable.
	And just so I'm clear again, being held accountable to you means seeing the governor charged with a crime.
	What he did to me was a crime.
	He broke the law.
	She's come out of the dark.
	She has given her name to her accusations.
	Brittany Comiso has said that Randy Andy Cuomo, the governor of New York, broke the law.
	Let's do a poll again.
	I'm not sure if anything is going to change.
	Chad, is the governor going anywhere?
	Yes or no?
	Not without legal action.
	Eric?
	He's not resigning, but I think at this point he may be impeached.
	Mr. G.
	Probably is.
	What?!
	Stop the presses!
	I was just reading... Hang on, hang on.
	Okay, that's it.
	The rest of the show, all two and a half hours, will be Jeff justifying this vault of farts.
	The New York Post is reporting, if this is accurate, I do, that Cuomo tried to make a deal with the state legislator that he won't run again if they don't impeach him.
	Oooh.
	Do we trust the New York Times?
	No, but here, do you trust Cuomo that he'll say he won't run and then he'll be impeached and run?
	No!
	That's the other thing, too.
	No!
	Because I think Cuomo would do that.
	You mean that he'd break his promise?
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So why does this change your opinion?
	Because I think that if he's... You know he wants to run again.
	Yes!
	So if he's willing to say he's not going to run again, I think he knows that he might be getting impeached.
	Okay, so what does that mean?
	Is he going to stay?
	Is he going to go?
	Oh, he's going to stay, but he'll be impeached probably.
	Okay, and are they going to get rid of him?
	Is it going to work?
	Is the impeachment going to work?
	I'm starting leaning more towards that now.
	All right.
	I don't know what to do.
	That completely... I just wanted to have a little bit of a sanity check and now I am completely discombobulated.
	I don't know what to do.
	Wow!
	Stunning, stunning, stunning news.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Maria, Los Angeles.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	This is Maria, of course, from Granada Hills and I'm a health care professional.
	The state mandate dictates by our governor to Mandate vaccines for healthcare workers is absolutely appalling to me.
	We are looking at, as healthcare professionals, we know where to find data on these vaccines.
	Let's look at the reported injuries, deaths.
	Of course, not a clear-cut link, but higher than for other vaccines.
	These vaccines lose their potency.
	What?
	We're going to have booster shots for how many variants?
	And how many mandates down the road?
	And where do we go?
	Who looks out for us?
	I'm looking for somebody out there with a class action suit.
	I'm very involved with all sorts of things.
	I'd be glad to join, but I just don't know where the resistance is.
	First, let's talk about what you're seeing.
	What are these studies?
	You say you can access the information because you're a health professional.
	So why are you worried?
	Tell us what the mainstream lying media refuses to talk about.
	Okay.
	There's so many physicians out there.
	Dr. Malone, you know, Dr. McCullough.
	Yes.
	There's, you know, Dr. who was the one doctor for President Trump's team.
	Ronny Jackson.
	No, no, no, no.
	The other one from Stanford.
	Oh, Atlas.
	Scott Atlas.
	Atlas, Atlas, yes.
	You have these physicians sounding warning bells.
	We have the data.
	Okay, CDC is compromised as they may be.
	You know, they do have some data on there that's quite concerning, unlike other vaccines.
	So give us a summary.
	What are you seeing that's disturbing?
	Well, there's probably right now, I haven't looked exactly, but somewhere around 5,000 to 6,000 reported deaths associated with the vaccines.
	A significant number of injuries.
	I can't give you the exact number.
	We're seeing breakthrough cases.
	those breakthrough cases, approximately, I believe, a thousand deaths from those who've been vaccinated.
	We're not getting, oh, the CDC decided not to put all breakthrough cases, just hospitalizations and deaths.
	So we're looking at this data going, hmm, scratching our heads.
	Why are we putting a pause button on these vaccines altogether?
	FDA is going to be approving these in a month?
	Approving what?
	How much more information do they need to have this whole country look at these vaccines, our experts, and say, look, These are not ready for prime time.
	Okay, emergency use, maybe they prevented some deaths, I'll give you that.
	Maybe they prevented some hospitalization, but what about the other therapies, the legitimate therapies out there that could prevent even more deaths?
	Why jump, make kids?
	Let me ask you, and I really appreciate you calling in and talking so trenchantly about all these issues.
	What do you represent amongst your colleagues?
	Are you one of 5%?
	One of 10%?
	How many other professionals around you are also likewise concerned?
	I don't talk to all that many because I'm kind of in an isolated area.
	But just on looking at data, somewhere between 20 to 40% health care workers have been resistant to vaccines.
	Through the month.
	That's what I have just from the data I've been looking at.
	You mean resistant in terms of their attitude?
	Yes.
	And then what's going to happen when they're given a deadline?
	I think some of us will just leave.
	Quit.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	I know.
	I'm not sure what to do.
	I'm just hoping that here in California our governor will be recalled and maybe the new governor will rescind these orders.
	You mean Governor Elder?
	Oh, he'll do that.
	Day one.
	You know that.
	Okay, we're voting for him.
	God bless.
	Thank you, my dear.
	Thank you, Maria.
	Keep doing what you do.
	We have an unbelievable video.
	I mentioned it before.
	34,000 likes already just posted before we started the show.
	It's from a doctor who actually knows the truth, who's looked at the studies like Maria has, and who understands that what we are doing, whether it is masks on children, whether it is demanding that adults wear masks at home after they've been vaccinated or mandatory vaccinations is not justifiable.
	We're going to find a time where we can play it for you in its entirety.
	It's a clip from it, but it is essential.
	You can see the response it's People are stealing it, are ripping it and reposting it, which is fine.
	I don't care.
	I don't own that video, but people need to know.
	In the meantime, make sure you are following us on Rumble.
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	Don't touch that dial.
	The cut of the Doctor?
	Yeah.
	That is cut 12.
	It's a video cut.
	I think that's it.
	Oh, 12.
	12, 12, 12.
	Did you do the beginning of... Oh.
	Did you do the beginning of it where he gives his address out or not?
	No.
	Okay, good.
	Alright.
	It's 329.
	You see how popular this thing is?
	20,000 retweets.
	That's from our account?
	Yeah.
	Is he gonna be the next Dr. Erickson?
	We gotta get him on the show sometime.
	That's a good question.
	Wanna try to play it this segment?
	I can't.
	No, no, no.
	I wanna do it at the top of the hour.
	It'd be too tight, man.
	Yeah, that's true.
	America first.
	Alright, what's your name?
	Alright, what'd you wanna say?
	Two minutes.
	All right, hang on. hang on.
	I'll try to get you on.
	Hi, what's your name?
	Hi, where are you calling from?
	When do you use the music?
	Um, usually during like longer breaks.
	Oh, longer breaks.
	When nothing is happening.
	Like, if there's nothing going on in the breaks, then, you know, give them at least something to listen to, because it is quality music, so, yeah.
	And then there's different music that plays for the intro-outro graphics slates for only like 15 seconds.
	One minute. Coming with video cut 11.
	Cut 11?
	Wait for disclaimer.
	Disclaimer.
	- Copy that. - Is he canceled?
	He hasn't responded to my texts.
	Can we get Calvin Robinson on again as a one-to-one on Skype?
	The British teacher.
	The black guy.
	Do you remember him?
	Calvin.
	The name sounds familiar.
	With the hair.
	With the hair.
	With the big afro.
	Oh yeah, we had him on for a special.
	Yeah, way back in the day.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I don't remember having him on.
	Yeah.
	We did have him on.
	He's really good.
	We did.
	20 seconds, stand by.
	Coming in.
	to you by food for the poor. - Well, I'm very concerned, Chuck, that we're going to see another surge related to that rally.
	I mean, to me, it's understandable that people want to do the kinds of things they want to do.
	They want their freedom to do that.
	But there comes a time when you're dealing with a public health crisis that could involve you, your family, and everyone else.
	That something supersedes that need to do exactly what you want to do.
	I mean, you're going to ultimately be able to do that in the future, but let's get this pandemic under control before we start acting like nothing is going on.
	I mean, something bad is going on.
	I mean, we've got to realize that.
	Something bad is going on and you're responsible for it flip-flopping Fauci and we're not going to take it anymore.
	You are a liar.
	Just look what this man did during the AIDS crisis and you'll understand he's been lying for 37 years at the top of that organization he allegedly runs.
	Let's go to Susan, California, line 5.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey!
	I have two things.
	One is, you don't have to show anything to cross our borders, but to have an alcoholic drink in a restaurant in New York, you have to show proof of vaccination and an ID card.
	Right.
	Exactly.
	That's number one.
	And number two is... Maybe we should pretend.
	Maybe we should make the southern border a bar.
	The whole length of it is a bar.
	And you can't come in unless you've been vaccinated and got ID.
	What do you think, Susan?
	Have I?
	I've solved it!
	I've solved it!
	Tell Larry Elder to make that rule.
	I will.
	I love it.
	What's the second thing, Susan?
	The second one is those poor disenfranchised people that can never get an ID.
	I don't know how they're going to find them to give them a vaccination card.
	But they will say, that's free.
	That's genius.
	And an ID costs money.
	So I am willing to pay for 100 IDs for these poor people.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Susan the choice of whatever book she wants.
	I gotta talk to Eileen, Newport Beach, line three.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey, I've only got a minute.
	Tell me, I love the question that you told Jeff.
	I just wanted to know why no one's talking about the new vaccines that are coming out that are traditional technology.
	We did.
	That are like the flu shot, Novavax.
	We did on Friday.
	And the one from Vedpreptin, from Sanofi, Pasteur and GSK.
	They're not doing anything to get these vaccines out.
	I just found out that the Novavax, they're not going to apply for the FDA.
	They're going to go to India and they're going to go to Australia, but they're not coming here.
	I think that would really get people to be vaccinated.
	We discussed it.
	And they're ethically moral too.
	We discussed it on Friday.
	Did you listen?
	No, I didn't hear that.
	I haven't heard it anywhere.
	You see, that's your mistake right there.
	Three hours every single day is the least you can do for me and America.
	The first hour, Friday's show.
	You've got to listen to it on your podcasts, on Rumble, wherever you listen to this show.
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	Chad, is Joe Rogan still a big deal?
	Still a huge deal.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, number one podcast on Spotify.
	Number one in the world.
	Pretty big deal.
	I thought Corolla was a big deal.
	How about Corolla?
	Corolla, he'll hit the top five sometimes, but he used to be huge in the late 2000s.
	So when you were in high school?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Joe Rogan said the following, it's going the rounds, if you don't do social media like we sad individuals do, you need to hear it because he's, what do they call it?
	An influencer?
	Cut 13.
	Because when you give people freedom, they actually find ways to succeed and grow and thrive.
	But as soon as you put the boots to them, as soon as you tell them, you have to do this or you can't do that, you have to listen to me.
	Now you have a mini dictator.
	You have one step away from a king.
	You have one step closer.
	You're moving one step closer to dictatorship.
	That's what's happening.
	That's what's going to happen with a vaccine passport.
	That's what's going to happen if They close borders.
	You can't enter New York City unless you have your papers.
	You can't go to here unless you have that.
	You can't get on a plane unless you do what I say.
	And people say, whoa, it's all about protecting people from the... No, it's not.
	He has a slightly unusual interpretation of history.
	But, but, the overall inference is the right one.
	And here we're going to tell you why.
	There is a doctor in Indiana who spoke.
	It's always happening at the school board meetings.
	And he is a professional in the medical field.
	And he spoke for quite some time.
	We've cut it down.
	And it is now perhaps one of the most viral things we've posted on social media in a long time.
	And for good reason.
	Because this is the information that the administration, Fauci, the NIH, the CDC, Walensky, do not want out there.
	Listen to Dr. Daniel Stock of Indiana tell the truth.
	Cut 12.
	That is why you keep struggling with this, is because you cannot make these viruses go away.
	The natural history of all respiratory viruses is that they circulate all year long, waiting for the immune system to get sick through the winter, or become deranged, as has happened recently with these vaccines, and then they cause symptomatic disease.
	Because they cannot be filtered out, and they have animal reservoirs, and this is a very important point, no one can make this virus go away.
	The CDC has managed to convince everybody that we can handle this like we did smallpox, where we could make a virus go away.
	Smallpox had no animal reservoirs.
	The only thing it learned to infect was humans.
	That's why we were able to make that virus go away.
	That will not happen with this any more than it will with influenza, the common cold respiratory syncytial virus, adenoviral respiratory syndromes, or anything else that has animal reservoirs.
	So the reason you can't do this is because you're trying to do something which has already been tried and can't be done.
	Equally important is that vaccination changes none of this, especially with this vaccine.
	And I would hope this board would start asking itself, before it considers taking the advice of the CDC, the NIH, and the State Board of Health, why we are doing things about this that we didn't do for the common cold, influenza, or respiratory syncytial virus.
	And then ask yourself, why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective having a breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that?
	And to help you understand that, you need to know the condition that is called antibody-mediated viral enhancement.
	That is a condition done when vaccines work wrong, as they did in every coronavirus study done in animals, on coronaviruses after the SARS outbreak, and done in respiratory syncytial virus, where a vaccine used in a vulnerable individual done the wrong way, which why it cannot be done right for a respiratory virus, which has a very low pathogenicity rate, causes the immune system to actually fight the virus wrong and let the virus become worse than it would with native infection.
	And that is why you are seeing an outbreak right now.
	In fact, in that flash drive you're going to have coming to you and in the emails with six extra will be a study showing that 75% of people who had COVID-19 positive symptom cases in Barnstable, Massachusetts outbreak were fully vaccinated.
	Therefore, there is no reason for treating any person vaccinated any differently than any person unvaccinated.
	You should also know that no vaccine, even the ones I support and would give to myself and my children, ever stops infection.
	In 2014, there was outbreak of mumps in the National Hockey League.
	The only people who came down with symptoms were the people who were unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status.
	Boy, that sounds like a great argument for vaccines.
	But a question that you should ask yourself, knowing that half of the people who came down with symptomatic disease had no contact with an unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status individual, where did they get the disease?
	And the answer was from the vaccinated individuals.
	No vaccine prevents you from getting infection.
	You get infected.
	You shed pathogen.
	This is especially true of viral respiratory pathogens.
	You just don't get symptomatic from it.
	So you cannot stop spread.
	You cannot make these numbers that you've planned on get better by doing any of the things you're doing.
	Because that is the nature of viral respiratory pathogens.
	And you can't prevent it with a vaccine because they don't do the very thing you're wanting them to do.
	And you will be chasing this the remainder of your life until you recognize that the Center for Disease Control and the Indiana State Board of Health are giving you very bad scientific guidance.
	So that's the Mount Vernon School Board in Indiana, and that's Dr. Daniel Stock.
	The whole video is on my feeds, on Twitter, on Facebook.
	It's going viral.
	God bless, I'm not going to mention them, but God bless the person on Facebook who sent it to me.
	So that video tells you one thing, the utter complete breakdown of science, at least institutionally Governmentally, in terms of what we are being told.
	So here's the take-home.
	Here's the take-home.
	Number one, you can't make a virus go away.
	It's just, it's wrong-headed.
	You can't make a virus disappear.
	Every virus has a life cycle.
	You can't wish it away and you can't use vaccines or masks to stop it rapidly.
	It has a life cycle.
	Secondly, where are all these breakthrough infections coming from?
	They're coming from the misapplication of vaccines.
	Occurring in instances where people are being given the vaccine who shouldn't be receiving it and in whom the vaccine is causing a deleterious reaction.
	That's the real reason for the breakthroughs.
	And then we have the most important of all.
	Being vaccinated doesn't stop the spread.
	We've got to get hold, first, of Dr. Stock.
	Secondly, somebody's already contacted me saying they need that flash drive and they will pay to make copies of it and distribute it across the nation to those who need the supporting documentation.
	How is it that people are catching coronavirus when they're not ever meeting people who haven't been vaccinated or who haven't tested positive?
	Because vaccination itself does not stop the shedding of the virus to people around you.
	Now, what does this all mean?
	Maybe this is hard to follow.
	It means one thing and one thing alone.
	The current application of vaccine is incorrect.
	What we must do is prevent the vulnerable from getting sick.
	That should have been the approach from the beginning.
	Mass mandatory masks or vaccination is science denial and it's got to stop.
	Look at the figures for children, for mortality rates and for transmission amongst the vaccinated.
	It's time for the insanity to stop.
	And for us to take what Fauci says as gospel, because it is not.
	Let's go to John waiting patiently, South Carolina, line two.
	Welcome back, John.
	You know I never wait patiently.
	I'm no more patient than you are, Dr. G. I have never said I'm patient.
	That's an absolute untruth.
	It's a non sequitur.
	It never happens.
	Listen, this is a somber call, and which is unusual for me.
	I lost my cousin, Betty, who's 87 years old.
	She was actually a second cousin once removed, so she was substantially older than I was, and she was about my mother's age.
	We fortunately have a lot of longevity on both sides of my family, actually, alongside.
	So she made it to 87.
	Not bad!
	She was vaccinated with the Pfizer virus, and she got both vaccinations, and she went to a funeral in Macon, Georgia.
	She was dead in six days after that.
	So hang on, before she went to the funeral, how much before that did she get the vaccination, John?
	I'm not absolutely certain.
	I'm guessing about five to ten days.
	So she gets the vaccine and about a week later goes to the funeral, catches COVID, and then she passes as a result.
	Absolutely.
	I got the J&J vaccine because I wanted to see my 99-year-old aunt on the other side of the family.
	You do have longevity!
	My oh my!
	I don't know that I'll make it, but I might die of other causes, but we won't go into that.
	What was your cousin's name again?
	Her name was Betty Doyle, a distant relative or author called Nan Doyle.
	God bless her soul.
	Thank you for sharing.
	Next, John Solomon here on America Report.
	Welcome to America Report.
	Not a bad name, actually.
	Oh, John Solomon Reports!
	Who's on the hotline?
	Is that John?
	It's probably the news, no.
	There's a couple other calls here.
	Using our line?
	What?
	How dare they?
	I'm gonna go ahead and call him up for now.
	On Skype.
	- Yep, Skype again. - Oh good. - Mr. Solomon, can you hear us?
	I sure can, loud and clear.
	How are you?
	Good sound.
	Good sound.
	Mic's are live again, as usual.
	All right, so we've got to talk about that thing you sent me.
	Yes.
	Yes, a human adjudication.
	You thought you got rid of it in Florida in 2000, but you didn't.
	Yes, so let's pull that up.
	I think I've got it in my stack.
	Oh, here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go.
	Wow, okay.
	Anything else you're gonna tease for us later in the week?
	I will have a Great story tomorrow about a virulently anti-Trump group that donated money to the election judges in Fulton County.
	Oh my gosh!
	Surprise people.
	Wow.
	Yep, and now auditors want Fulton County to return some of the money.
	So I can tease that.
	Perfect.
	These guys make Mark Zuckerberg look like a pro-Trump guy.
	Ouch.
	Yep, 85 grand, so it'll be a fun story.
	Shad, do you need me to pot up the audio a little bit, or are you good?
	For Food for the Poor, can you find some images or some B-roll of the kids being helped?
	Not just the massive insignia.
	I think they may have B-roll on standby.
	Let me see who I asked about that.
	Are you going to get to have a vacation?
	What are you trying to get?
	Food for the Poor.
	Are you gonna get some time off?
	I hope so in late August, yeah.
	If everything works out okay, I'll get a few days down in late August, so it'll be great.
	How about you?
	I've already had my week, my ten days off, my little cruise.
	Good for you.
	Well earned.
	Not sure it counts as vacation, though.
	Hanging out with 22 of my wife's relatives was...
	Different.
	Now remember, remember you're on an open line.
	I know, but I've said it before.
	I've said it before.
	I'm an only, I'm an only child.
	She's not.
	So these are, these are different cultures, different cultures.
	Absolutely.
	That's so funny.
	That's good.
	I love it.
	Things we do for our loved ones.
	We do indeed, don't we?
	Well, we have to.
	Yeah.
	One minute.
	Part of life.
	Part of life for sure.
	That's good.
	Family's doing all right?
	Good, just so sad they're back in California.
	Oh, bummer.
	It's far, far away.
	It is, isn't it?
	Yeah, a bit too far.
	Summer went by fast this year, didn't it?
	Oh my gosh.
	Insane.
	How is it August?
	Second week of August.
	Yeah, other than the humidity.
	Humidity says, well, it's August.
	The rest of it, yeah.
	That I could do without.
	All right, 20 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Stand by.
	Sounds good.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	The whole truth.
	Nothing but the truth.
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	I have no idea.
	I'm not even going to ask why we're listening to the Pink Panther theme.
	Henry Mancini.
	Superb.
	I love it.
	I know why!
	Because I needed to be put in a good mood.
	Thank you, Chad.
	But it's okay!
	I don't need to be put in a good mood when John Solomon joins us.
	He is the creator, the founder, the editor-in-chief of the superlative justthenews.com website.
	Follow him at jsolomonreports.
	Early this morning he sent me a piece, rather a hefty piece, In more ways than one.
	John, welcome to America First and tell us about this story coming out of Georgia.
	Yeah, listen, I think everybody thought after the hanging chat of November 2020 in Florida that we would never again see an instance where humans were trying to divine intent on a paper ballot and award votes based on who they were guessing the voter was voting for.
	But that happened in a large degree in Fulton County.
	It happened in many other places in America, particularly large urban areas.
	So what we obtained for the first time were the Dominion voting machine, what are called the adjudication logs.
	The logs that create a record every time a voting machine kicked out a ballot saying, There's something wrong with it.
	Humans need to take a look at it.
	That happened 3% of the time with the paper absentee ballots in Fulton County.
	And once that, about 5,000 ballots in all, they get sent over to a bunch of humans.
	By the way, a day or two after everybody already knows the initial results in Georgia, that Donald Trump is narrowly leading Joe Biden in Georgia in a race that will probably settle the election.
	And then these humans start to look at these ballots.
	And the most common thing that happened on these ballots What does that mean, remove, John?
	for two candidates.
	They'd put a big circle and fill out the oval for Donald Trump on the paper ballot.
	And then they would put a checkmark next to Joe Biden.
	Well, how do you figure out which vote that you should give?
	Well, time and again, they would remove the mark for Donald Trump and count the mark for Joe Biden.
	And they did this in many races.
	It wasn't just in the presidential race.
	It happened in the Senate race.
	What does that mean, remove, John?
	Can you unpack that?
	They literally take the mark off the ballot and tell the machine to ignore the Donald Trump Trump.
	that's registered on there.
	So when the machine saw it, it saw two votes.
	It saw one for Donald Trump and one for Joe Biden.
	And the machine made the correct declaration.
	This ballot should not be counted, at least as far as it goes to the presidential race.
	Humans then looked at it and tried to salvage the vote in the thing by removing the Donald Trump mark.
	So there's a mark next to Donald Trump's name.
	Someone voted for him.
	Then they also voted for Joe Biden.
	And the humans took the mark away for Joe Biden.
	I'm sorry, took the mark away for Donald Trump and counted the Joe Biden ballot.
	True intervention, literally altering the ballot so that it can count.
	So what does this mean?
	How Has there been any official reaction?
	What is the next process?
	Is there something legally pending?
	Because this is exactly the kinds of things that we were told for six months didn't happen, don't exist.
	I think I remember an interview in January where they said it was a perfect election in Georgia, and we now know it wasn't, right?
	We had the 29-page memo you and I talked about last month that we got under FOIA.
	What it means is that there's a big conflict in Georgia.
	There is a requirement in Georgia that when someone double votes or makes a mistake or crosses out something on the ballot, it's supposed to be spoiled, not counted, and a new ballot issued.
	That didn't happen.
	That regulation wasn't followed.
	Now there's a contradictory regulation that says If something like that happens and you can divine what happens, then you should.
	So, we saw many ballots that met the legal definition of spoiled in Georgia that got counted, often to the benefit of Joe Biden or the Democrats.
	Ossoff, for instance, or Warnock.
	This is a problem.
	Georgia has not been watching this very closely.
	The Secretary of State's office didn't want to weigh in on this, said it was still thinking about it.
	But, you know, Georgia wasn't a perfect election.
	Fulton County particularly was imperfect.
	But if 3% of the votes nationwide that were cast by paper in an election where tens of millions of absentee ballots were cast, this could have had a profound effect if this human intervention was going on all across the country, particularly in large blue urban areas.
	Maricopa County in Arizona, Phoenix.
	They've now told us, they haven't given us the records yet, but they told us that there are more than 27,000 ballots where someone voted for two or more candidates and that they had to humanly intervene.
	27,000 ballots in a state where the spread was, what, 10 or 12,000?
	That could have a very profound impact.
	So we're just beginning to unravel this thing called human adjudication.
	We had got it out of our minds after Florida in 2000, but it's back with a vengeance.
	So let me ask you, as somebody who has been a journalist, investigative journalist for decades, worked in the most prestigious, let me say, formally prestigious news organizations, is this story that you reported on, is this being covered by anybody else in the mainstream legacy media, John?
	Nada.
	Nothing.
	Not at all.
	Crickets.
	Crickets, in fact, would be an upgrade.
	There's no mention of it at all.
	Now, remember how people were upset with Hanging Chad in 2000, right?
	George Bush was stealing the election, Democrats told us.
	Almost an identical digital version of Hanging Chad.
	And not a single reporter in the mainstream media thus far, 24 hours in, is interested.
	Listen, we put all the records up.
	You can see all 5,000 ballots.
	You can see the machine logs.
	And yet no curiosity whatsoever.
	Anything that runs against the grain of the official media story today just gets buried.
	Tell us about another story.
	Give us a little tease about something you're going to break also to do with the elections, John, later this week.
	Absolutely.
	So there's been a lot of attention, and you've been kind enough to cover this with us, on Mark Zuckerberg and the 350 million dollars he gave to election judges.
	Well, we're going to identify another person that gave money not to PACs or parties or candidates or super PACs.
	They gave it to the election judges in Fulton County, and this particular group which gave the money was virulently Anti-Trump.
	I mean, relentless in its criticism of Donald Trump.
	They gave money to influence the election through the judges as part of an effort to turn out the black vote in the Atlanta area.
	And now, auditors want some of that money to be returned.
	And what were they giving the money for, John?
	Those Malibu ballot boxes that made it easy for people to vote.
	And well, you know, some Republicans worry made it easy to cheat.
	So these are those mobile ballot boxes that were set, created a new notion For the 2020 election where a lot of absentee ballots were filed outside of the inspection of official election officials.
	Has anybody made a legal determination as to whether or not private individuals, because this is one of the things that Mark Zuckerberg's foundation funded to the tune of half a billion dollars, could I, John, could I say, you know, I know J.D.
	Vance is running, I like J.D.
	Vance, could I say here's $5,000 for Ballot collection boxes, but I only want them in Republican districts.
	Can I do that, John?
	You probably can't do that, but if you said you wanted them in suburban, white, rural areas, that was exactly what Zuckerberg did.
	He defined things by race and economics.
	Remember in Wisconsin, they could only register Hmong, which were an Asian refugee, very popular in the area.
	Hispanics and black Americans.
	White Americans were excluded from that effort in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
	There is a racial preference here that I think could be challenged.
	Remember, the law says you can't do anything to give one race a favor over another in elections.
	That's the Voting Rights Act.
	Here's the thing.
	The Republican National Committee was asleep all last year why these things were going on.
	They didn't challenge them, right?
	And then they wondered after the election day, well, when the Democrats had the upper hand, why didn't we do it?
	There has not been a complaint even filed at the Federal Election Commission against Zuckerberg's unprecedented $400 million investment It's crazy, but we know you're going to cover it.
	We're going to get back to your calls.
	John, very quickly, when will that drop, that story?
	What's the expectation?
	I hope in the next 24 hours.
	Love it.
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	Your call's next here on America First.
	Thank you.
	Oh, OK.
	So Gomet's going to come on now in 10 minutes' time.
	He just texted me.
	Okay.
	I'm gonna use the restroom.
	good stuff cough cough And, uh... Title for that one?
	- Hello, America First. - Uh...
	More proof of voter fraud in Georgia or something?
	Yes.
	More proof of voter fraud in Georgia.
	Yes, that's good.
	Awesome, alright.
	I'll let John know.
	Alright John.
	Alright, hang on.
	I'll try to get you on.
	He's Gohmert's on in this segment or D?
	D. D, okay.
	Yeah, I want to do some of these cuts now.
	Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I want to do the trans.
	Yeah.
	I want to do the Collins.
	I want to do eight, nine.
	Shapiro.
	Oh, Shapiro, my gosh, got to tee that up.
	Explain 14, Glenn Kirshner, Jeff.
	He's on a Sirius radio show.
	You know who he is, right?
	Oh, no, I don't.
	He's a frequent MSNBC guest and stuff.
	Okay, play that for me.
	Oh, that's audio.
	He's a frequent MSNBC guest and he's on Sirius?
	Yeah, he says that Trump should be put in jail and unarrested for public safety.
	Because it's going to cause insurrection 2.0.
	Hey, could you play 14 for me, Shad?
	Thanks.
	Isn't there now a public safety issue?
	Don't we have to move out and charge Trump because he's out there continuing to push the big lie, continuing to grip his face, and in a very real sense, recruiting the foot soldiers for insurrection 2.0.
	And I think nothing would make Donald Trump happier than insurrection 2.0.
	Every time I was involved in a covert investigation in the grand jury, For example, going after a gang in D.C.
	Every single day, Dean, we had to make the assessment.
	Do we continue to investigate covertly and let these guys run around on the streets of Washington, D.C., potentially hurting others?
	Or have the scales tipped?
	And is now public safety such a concern that we have to take down the investigation and make arrests and go public?
	What's with the camera?
	What camera?
	You ordered a camera, didn't you?
	Yeah, I gotta remember to bring it in.
	I've had it since last Tuesday.
	Classic.
	50 seconds.
	Yeah.
	There's this video going around of a TikTok influencer that the Biden administration hired.
	Yes.
	Oh, you just sent it to me, didn't you, Jeff?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's real bad.
	I can't believe it's real.
	Can you rip it?
	Yeah.
	Do you want John to post it too?
	Yes.
	Is it worse than the one we played last week, Sean?
	It's real bad.
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	Okay, we have to share with you.
	What is it with Ben Shapiro?
	Is he a conservative or not?
	What's his issue with MAGA?
	You don't have to like Donald Trump's style, but really?
	What he said on... Who's that weirdo's show?
	What's his name?
	The creep, creepy guy.
	Ma.
	Bill Ma, right?
	This is just the only nine seconds of the Bill Ma show I want to share with you.
	It's Ben Shapiro talking about January the 6th.
	Play cut!
	One, 40,000 people did not assault the Capitol.
	Okay, that's just factually inaccurate.
	Third, maybe a thousand people.
	That is not making light of the evil of those people who all will end up rotting in prison, as they should.
	The evil?
	The evil of the people who should end up in jail rotting.
	Tad harsh little men.
	Tad harsh there.
	I know you don't like Donald Trump, but seriously, they're being charged with trespass?
	Oh, um, excuse me, excuse me.
	Interrupting an official proceedings.
	I always say that people who interrupt official proceedings should rot in hell because they're evil.
	Don't you?
	Don't you, Eric?
	Yeah, that's a crime against humanity as far as I'm concerned.
	It is.
	Rot in hell if you interrupt an official procedure.
	If it's the DMV, if you interrupt the rapid work of the DMV, you should rot in hell.
	Ben, I think you let the mask slip there a little bit.
	I think we saw the, what is it, the inner monologue?
	I think you just let it slip out there a little bit.
	Let's talk about somebody who's More of a patriot, at least when it comes to talking the truth and not letting the inner monologue out when it shouldn't.
	There is a business owner, I think his store is called Star Wars or something, it's a cool little store, and he is being berated by a trans member of the city council and it's a fabulous video and we need more of it.
	Cut nine, play cut!
	You are not.
	You're not a woman.
	You don't look like a woman.
	You don't act like a woman.
	The confrontation started inside.
	Trans women are women!
	Trans women are women!
	And spilled into the street.
	You are not a chick.
	Aberdeen Councilwoman Tiesa Mesquius confronted owner Don Zucker about a sign he posted in his store saying, if you are born with a slang for a male body part, you are not a chick.
	I don't care what they do.
	But don't come in here and complain to me about stuff.
	I have free speech.
	Zucker says anyone who disagrees with him does not need to spend money at his store, where that sign was still visible today.
	And everybody's loved it.
	Everybody's taken pictures of it.
	Everybody laughs.
	Not everybody loved it.
	And some people think it's hurtful.
	He told us that this hurt.
	But here's the thing.
	I don't give a **** about feelings anymore.
	I'm 70 **** M8.
	I went to Vietnam to fight for all this ****.
	Do you think I care about some **** feelings?
	Absolutely not!
	Can we play... Jeff, I need advice on this from a pro.
	Can we play that every day this week?
	How many times am I allowed to play that?
	You should use it for the top of the hour.
	Every time.
	Just come back.
	Top of the hour, every time.
	And it's called the Star Wars Shop, and you appreciate that, right?
	It's a big science fiction buff.
	That's one Star Wars guy I like.
	He doesn't even like me!
	I'm his boss!
	No, that guy!
	Maybe I need to tell trans people to their face that chromosomes A non-negotiable.
	Don't be a science denier.
	Next up here on America First, the one, the only, from Texas, Louie Gohmert.
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	He's one of the fearless warriors on Capitol Hill.
	From Texas, the one and only Congressman, Louie Gohmert.
	Hey, Sebastian!
	Great to be on with you.
	Thanks for having me on.
	We have so much to discuss, but first things first.
	As a former judge, as a legal professional, will you tell us, is there any recourse?
	The reports are coming in thick and fast.
	That this administration, Lloyd Austin, Biden is going to mandate force everyone in the armed forces to get vaccinated.
	Surely this is against constitutional requirements for freedom.
	What recourse do we have as Americans if we're in the armed services?
	Well, Congress previously passed a law that said you could not use The military is testing for experimental medications or drugs, and this is still experimental.
	It's under the emergency use authorization only.
	We don't know what the 10-year risks are, or even five-year risks, or maybe even three-year risks, because it's still experimental.
	And so I know the Biden administration is putting pressure On the FDA to go ahead and prove it.
	But I think the military would have to do that before they can force the military to take it.
	If some one or more people in the military get a lawyer to file suit for them, and hopefully one of these attorneys that work for firms, you know, First Liberty, ACLJ, different ones, If they could get them to file the suit, I wouldn't think it would be that hard to find a judge that would go, no.
	After the military used black soldiers at one time as experimental, and we were horrified to find that out.
	So the law was passed.
	You can't experiment on our military just because they're in the military and have to take orders.
	So this is still experimental.
	And in fact, I had the warnings.
	You just unfold and unfold.
	It's about a three foot by two foot wide warning regarding, that was the Janssen or Johnson & Johnson.
	And it's all blank.
	And I said, where's the warning?
	And the pharmacist said, see the language?
	It says, Under emergency use authorization, they don't have to give any warnings.
	Wow.
	Well, I'm looking forward to when we can get back to this beautiful legal concept that we evolved to at the height of our medical professionalism, and that is you advise patients of the potential inherent risks And then you let them decide once they know all the risks.
	Wouldn't it be nice to get back to that, Sebastian?
	Would be delightful.
	What a crazy, crazy idea.
	Follow this man.
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	Congressman Gohmert, every single day, every single week there is an escalation in terms of the lack of control on the southern border.
	The footage last week from that That bridge with hundreds and hundreds of illegal immigrants under there.
	Is this ever going to stop?
	Is there anything that the Republicans can do?
	Well, not when we're in the minority.
	You know, we've got judges that have actually tried to rein things in some.
	But, you know, this administration is hell bent to bring in millions and millions of new people That they are hoping will learn to vote before they can speak English, and they can learn how detrimental the Democratic Party is.
	That's what their hope is.
	They keep allowing this wide-open border, but they're killing people.
	They're literally killing people.
	As they tell us, we may have to have lockdowns again.
	Everybody may have to wear a mask again, and yet they're encouraging By their open door policy, millions of people to come in, you know, a couple hundred thousand a month.
	Originally we were told, well, there are only 6% of those 180,000 that have COVID.
	And now we're hearing reports that maybe 20% is more accurate, but those are thousands and thousands of people streaming in to the U.S.
	with COVID being shipped all over the country to a community near you, maybe your own, and they're spreading this COVID intentionally.
	They know they're doing it.
	And now, who's going to pay the price?
	Well, for one, the military is going to pay the price.
	We're going to give them the experimental drug, whether they agree or not, and also the American people.
	We're seeing that as an uptick continues in the rate of COVID.
	Unbelievable.
	It's not a crisis.
	It is a catastrophe.
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	All right, I think we've hit pretty much everything.
	Yeah.
	Let's come in with cut seven, given what Louis said.
	Seven.
	Wait for the disclaimer.
	Disclaimer, copy that.
	All right.
	And then I got to hit the podcast.
	Yep.
	Right, what should we do for, um... Oh, title.
	Podcast today.
	Oh.
	It should be Paris, shouldn't it?
	What do you think, Geoff?
	No, should we 1A?
	Let's do 1A with Obama for the podcast.
	What should we do?
	Do the podcast, because of the cops that killed everything.
	Okay.
	And then we need a title for that.
	Parish.
	Oh, we already came up with a title for Parish.
	Oh, title for Gomer, yes.
	No, no, no.
	The title for Parish is for YouTube, right?
	Well, you mean Rumble or YouTube?
	Well, what was the title?
	The title you gave me was... Let me pull that up.
	Was?
	Let me find it.
	The truth about the police in America.
	Okay, good.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	Okay.
	That's fine.
	20 seconds.
	Coming in with cuts.
	7 after disclaimer.
	Do we have tomorrow?
	You just got 2.
	Okay.
	Pesto.
	Wow.
	Ten seconds.
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	But there's no way that we can actually verify that the testing is being done.
	And even if the testing is being done, Catholic Charities does not have the authority to hold these people in custody.
	So once they're transferred to these NGOs, they're free to go wherever they want within the United States.
	So, no, we're not testing that.
	And that's a huge number of the people that we're taking into custody, about 40%.
	Of the total number that we're taking into custody, we're releasing without testing, so we just don't know what is being spread into the United States.
	Brandon Judd of the CBP Union.
	Shocking, shocking figures.
	40% of the illegals being distributed across the nation.
	We have no idea if they have COVID and whether they've been vaccinated.
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	Let's go to J.R., Columbus, Ohio.
	Welcome back, J.R.
	Yes, Dr. G., it's a blessing to hear your voice.
	You have the best guests, and I don't say that just to be nice.
	We try, we try.
	Mr. G. brings the best guests.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, J.R.
	Well, I never stop listening.
	But anyway, I have three very close doc friends for the last 20 years.
	Not this past May, but last year past May, when all the silliness started, all three of them, and they don't even know each other, all three of them are not friends, started saying a very similar thing to me within weeks.
	They said, this is a respiratory virus.
	If anyone thinks there's a vaccine for this, You're kidding yourself.
	Is the common cold contained?
	Is the flu contained?
	No.
	And go ahead.
	No, you're right.
	No, I'm just answering your question.
	You don't eradicate the flu.
	You don't eradicate the cold.
	You manage it.
	And the point your doctor friends raise is the one that we discussed on Friday in the first hour on COVID with my personal physician, Dr. Sam Pappas.
	COVID kills people, primarily the vulnerable Because of the inflammation that is caused in the lungs, in the trachea.
	It's not the virus itself.
	It's the secondary effects.
	So the idea that the vaccine is going to stop that is insanity.
	It's the therapeutics, JR.
	Yes, yes, Roger that.
	You're totally right.
	And I'm so glad that you're a loud voice.
	And the point, JR, that the left thinks this is political.
	If a Republican president's administration were doing this, if they were lying about vaccines and therapeutics, I'd be as loud, perhaps even louder then, because I'd be annoyed at my own side.
	I just want the truth out there.
	I've taken hydroxychloroquine, I know what ivermectin can do, and I'm seeing what the vaccine doesn't do for America.
	God bless you, JR.
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	The End This is one, is it one-to-one or one-on-one, Jeff?
	One-on-one?
	Thank you.
	I'm still getting used to our new product here on America First, where we go deep dive with special guests in studio, and we are delighted.
	He's a brand new friend of mine.
	I just met him, what, a couple of days ago.
	You meet the best people over a nice cigar.
	His name is Tim Parrish, former Marine, because there's no such thing as an ex-Marine.
	Tim, welcome to America First.
	Thanks so much, Sebastian.
	Glad to be with you.
	So, cigars.
	Are you a cigar guy?
	I'm a cigar guy, through and through.
	Good.
	Since when?
	When did you discover the delights?
	I've always smoked them, but I really got into it during COVID.
	Sitting at home all day.
	Funny how that works.
	Everything's closed.
	Did it help you beat COVID?
	Because you caught COVID, right?
	I did.
	I had COVID.
	I went through the whole thing.
	How long did it last for you?
	Three days, three or four days.
	Three days for me.
	Cigars?
	Cigars.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, I'm convinced that's what did it.
	All right, so you came up to me at our little conservative cigar event a few days ago, and I could tell there was something special about you.
	Having spent two and a half years at Quantico on the faculty there, I kind of, hmm, maybe, maybe he's a devil dog, and indeed you are.
	Yes, sir.
	And not only that, it's not enough for you to have served the nation as a Marine.
	What else have you done in uniform?
	Well, I was a D.C.
	police officer for a few years, and that was one of the additional highlights post-military service that I got to put on a different uniform and serve a community.
	So that was great.
	God bless you.
	And now you have an organization called We Back the Blue, right?
	We Back Blue, yes sir.
	WeBackBlue.com.
	WeBackBlue.com.
	Why did you create that?
	So I actually didn't create it, believe it or not.
	Melissa Roby is the founder of the organization.
	I know that name.
	Yeah, you've probably done some work with her in the past.
	She's the founder, but I am her Director of Government Affairs.
	So I spend all my time with legislators talking to them about, primarily these days, not defunding their police departments, but also just making sure that there's policies going forward that allow law enforcement officers to effectively and efficiently carry out their public safety duty.
	So let me ask you.
	The naive question, the obvious question, why would anybody become a police officer today?
	You know, there is, I always say it's an honor to serve.
	There's actually an old song called, There's an Honor to Serve, and so some folks are just born with it, some folks are inspired, and so they want to go serve, and so they get above the noise, they get above the craziness, and they realize, just like I did, there's still very much a need for law enforcement.
	You know, breaking it down very simply, people understand that there's a need to keep that gap nice and wide between good and evil people.
	And so folks are willing to get above the noise and ignore all the drama and go actually do the hard work of keeping people safe in their communities.
	And your response to this movement we've witnessed over the last two years in America to defund the police?
	Absolutely ridiculous, asinine, ludicrous, whatever word you want to put with it, Sebastian, it's nuts.
	I was telling folks a year ago, a year and a half ago, I'll give you the answers to the test with this whole defund thing.
	It's going to result in skyrocketing crime.
	Which we've seen in all major cities.
	Crime has just gone absolutely nuts.
	In D.C.
	last month in July, more people died from gun violence and being killed on the streets than they did of COVID.
	Of course, we know that the numbers and the reporting is still just on COVID.
	But more people died as a result of, you know, getting killed in the streets publicly than they did of COVID in our nation's capital last month, which is just absolutely, you know, something that's crazy to wrap your mind around.
	Yeah, and then you see the recent photograph, it's all over the internet, in San Francisco.
	of a woman hanging out the window of a car with an AK-47.
	Right.
	That's in San Francisco in California with some of the toughest gun laws in the nation.
	We're going to talk about gun laws.
	What's the truth?
	Is it the gun?
	Is it the perpetrator?
	We're talking to Tim Parish.
	Check him out right now.
	Webackblue.com.
	Tim, What's the state?
	So you've worked as a uniformed officer in the Metropolitan Police Department in the nation's capital.
	You have an organization you work for which represents the Leo community nationally.
	What is the state of morale amongst law enforcement?
	It's very low.
	It's very low.
	I mean, we travel the nation talking to police officers, sheriffs, deputies, federal law enforcement guys, and right now they simply don't feel the support from politicians, which the communities are listening to their political leaders, and that's driving the community to no longer support the police.
	And so the guys really, all they have is each other right now.
	They don't have a community that they're serving that supports them.
	They don't have policymakers who also have the power of the purse and the ability to fund or defund the police.
	And so these guys just don't feel supported.
	And really, all they have is each other.
	And like I talked about earlier, that drive to continue to keep people safe and they know what they're doing is honorable work.
	And so that's all they have right now.
	They don't have a lot of support.
	That's why we started We Back Blue.
	You know, Melissa, who's the founder, we did our first march I think two years ago now.
	Oh wow, you're that new?
	That new, yeah, that new.
	And we've just had phenomenal impact.
	This year during the inauguration, funny story, you know, police departments come from around the nation to support security for the inauguration.
	And we heard through some of my friends that are still in the department that They weren't getting food.
	They were out there for 12 hours.
	So you got volunteers from across the nation to secure the inauguration.
	And nobody's getting fed?
	They weren't feeding them.
	They had some crazy thing where they weren't feeding them.
	So Melissa and I got in her car.
	We called up an Italian company and we said, hey, can we get some food?
	We don't care what it costs.
	She wouldn't got Italian.
	I wouldn't got Chick-fil-A.
	We took it down there.
	How much food did you buy?
	Oh, hundreds of dollars of food.
	And we fed the officers a good portion of them that were coming in.
	Now, you add that to the lack of support for their feelings, and they're not getting fed.
	It's like the National Guard guys being made to sleep in the car parks.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And so we went in and we said, you know what, we're going to meet the need.
	So a lot of what we're doing right now around the country is we're getting people in the community together to push back on this narrative and say, no, actually, your community supports you.
	Your politicians might not, but your community absolutely supports you.
	We appreciate the work you're doing, and we recognize you put your life on the line every single day for us.
	So it's been incredible work.
	Now, you've been a military professional, then you put on the Sam Brown, the badge and the gun, you became a police officer.
	You are a profession, you are doing things professionally that you are trained to do, but there is that political element insofar as you report, or the commissioner or the chief, whatever the jurisdiction, reports to a mayor.
	You've got to have political top cover, don't you?
	To do your job, you can't be a punching bag for somebody who wants to become the governor the next week, right?
	Right.
	It's crucial.
	It is.
	It absolutely is.
	And you see a lot of mayors who know they have to get re-elected either to that position or to a higher position, like you mentioned, they're all now starting to abandon this whole defund the police thing.
	And they're coming to their senses, be it right in D.C., where the mayor originally was kind of on the bandwagon, and then got a new chief who really laid down the law and told her the reality of things.
	And then she's now going, hey, any overtime you guys need, anything you need, she's going back to the council.
	She's got a different tune?
	She's got an absolutely different tune, because now the light wasn't at the end of the defund the police tunnel.
	And it just was getting worse and worse.
	So now the tune is changing.
	And so we're seeing that all around the country, where mayors who are realizing that they want a political future and their citizens are literally getting slain in the street.
	The blood is going to be on their hands and so they are changing their tune a lot and so we're seeing that all around the country happening with mayors.
	No, I only had a couple of phone calls with him when I was getting my concealed carry permit in DC.
	I was impressed with the professionalism of the new chief, Chief Conte.
	What's the reports?
	What's the rep?
	What are the people saying?
	What's good about him?
	What's bad about him?
	What have you heard?
	I've got friends all over the department after spending a few years in the force.
	They are absolutely ecstatic about Robert Conte.
	People are, not only in the police department, but the community.
	You know, we talked about it the other day that I think you need three things in order to be a good chief there.
	Beyond all the political noise, you need to be from the city, which Robert Conte is.
	Is that everywhere or is that specific to D.C.?
	I think it's specific to D.C.
	So you've got to be from D.C.
	You've got to be from D.C.
	You've got to be from that department.
	You know, born and bred in that department.
	Come up in the streets with those guys.
	And then you've got to be a cop's cop.
	And so I think that if you get those three things... So not a paper pusher?
	Not a politician?
	You can't be a politician.
	You can't be a politician.
	You can't be somebody who wants to be friends with the mayor.
	You can't be somebody who wants to go to all the special parties and all that stuff.
	The photo opportunities.
	You can't do that.
	You need to be from there.
	You need to be a cop's cop and you've got to be from that department.
	Robert Conte checks all those boxes and I've said everywhere I've gone that he's the best police chief that the city has had since Chuck Ramsey.
	I'm a big Chuck Ramsey fan.
	He came out of Chicago and really did a lot to to bring that department into the 21st century.
	Robert Conte is doing a lot of great work and everybody loves the guy.
	The officers are very impressed with him.
	They're absolutely excited about being led by him and he's shown in just a few months of being on the job that he's serious about it.
	He's going to take care of the officers at the same time, hold him accountable, and he is going to keep the public safe in the nation's capital.
	So he's the real deal and people are excited about him, as am I.
	Um, I want to talk about his response to that recent shooting.
	Where was that?
	Was that 14th and Q?
	Do you remember?
	Uh, which way?
	I mean, we got in DC, which one?
	The really recent one where he went down and he spoke afterwards.
	Oh, the Le Diplomate.
	It was outside that fancy restaurant.
	Yep, that's the third district.
	We'll talk about that because I watched his reaction to it.
	We're talking in studio one-on-one with Tim Parrish from WeBackBlue.com, former MPD, former law enforcement officer from here in the district, and also former marina.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka and you're listening to America First one-on-one.
	Let's go straight, Tim, to this story.
	There's a restaurant I've been to a couple of times.
	It's really good, almost impossible to get a table now.
	It's opening up after COVID.
	And we see this report recently that in broad daylight, it was four o'clock Well, maybe eight o'clock.
	Anyway, it was daylight.
	Right.
	And somebody just... Two guys pull guns and start shooting, trying to hit somebody.
	Two people injured.
	The hit doesn't, you know, work out the way they planned.
	And the new chief of police, Chief Conti, did a press conference almost immediately.
	It's interesting.
	We played parts of it on my show, The Date Happened, and he said, you know, I'm pissed because I like
	14th Street or whatever it was and my wife and I like to come here for dinner and he said an interesting at the end of it he said a line that kind of hmm made me think and he said I guarantee you when we find the perpetrators they will be known to us meaning meaning right they'll be gangbangers they'll have a criminal record talk to unpack that little half a sentence sure that what it's kind of a like it's not cynical it's a statement of fact that yeah and you know what
	They won't be first-time offenders, right Tim?
	No, so what Chief Conte was talking about in that situation, let me break this down a little bit.
	So, in D.C.
	you have a really professional police force.
	You have guys that are absolutely dedicated to the job.
	They will go out, they will get bad guys all day, every day.
	I even told you about the reserve program where guys do it for free.
	So these are reserve officers, don't get paid, but they have the same powers as regulars.
	They'll do it for free, and there's folks that go out there and absolutely will get the bad guys.
	D.C.
	police has no problem doing that.
	What happens is, is when they go to court, the courts let them go.
	There's a process called papering, which is when someone gets arrested, you go and you sit down with the prosecutor.
	In D.C.
	a lot of times it's federal prosecutors, because it's a federal district, and then in certain crimes, a lot of misdemeanors, the Attorney General of D.C.
	handles it.
	Well, you know, a lot of cases just don't get papered.
	Attorneys will tell you, hey, we're just not, we're not going to do it.
	We don't think we can win it in court.
	We don't, we don't think that it was, you know, you, you messed up on this minuscule thing.
	And so we're not going to be able to take it to a trial or what have you.
	And so people get out.
	Now, Sebastian, you've got recidivism, which is where people go to prison and then they, and they get out and they recommit crimes.
	Right.
	DC doesn't have a recidivism issue.
	They just have an accountability issue where folks don't even make it to prison.
	They just get out.
	I've locked people up before in the city where I am processing their property and their paperwork and going to turn it in and they're flipping me off as they're walking out because they've been released.
	So you've got to unpack that.
	So you said that there's a technicality, a little screw up or whatever, so we're not going to run the case.
	But really there's a political thing underlying this, isn't there?
	Absolutely.
	Why is this happening?
	Well, there's a few different things, right?
	You've got an attorney general, I think, in the district who wants to be the mayor.
	So he wants to be able to run.
	So this is how you screw the crime statistics or what?
	Well, this is how you say that I was for the people and I let everybody go and I didn't do the police thing.
	How is that for the people?
	I have no clue.
	I can't even begin to understand the logic.
	But then you've got a political system that says that, oh, these communities are over-policed, and so we need to focus on these resources, these things like mental health and community services.
	Okay, stop there.
	So we've seen this in Minneapolis, we've seen this all over the place.
	Your response as a former Marine, former law enforcement officer, to this idea that we defund the police, we take the money from the police, And we give it to social workers.
	Is that going to work, Tim Paris?
	It's not.
	And let me tell you, can I give you an example of something?
	How does that work?
	So, you know, we won't get in, I won't talk too politically, but, but Cori Bush, right?
	The Congresswoman.
	Cori Bush, yes.
	We have a soundbite from her.
	She proved to the nation this week that that doesn't work, that having social workers do protection work simply doesn't work.
	She said, hey, in the communities, we need to take all the money and give it to social workers and that will solve the crime problem.
	But for protecting me and my life, I actually need security and people with guns.
	You're a mind reader.
	This is Video Cut Ten from the Ringo Starr of the Squad, Cori Bush, who, uh, I guess things are different for her.
	Let's play Video Cut Ten.
	You can't get that off.
	I'm going to make sure I have security because I know I have had attempts on my life and I have too much work to do.
	There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that.
	So if I end up spending $200,000, if I spend $10 more dollars on it, you know what?
	I get to be here to do the work.
	So suck it up and defunding the police has to happen.
	We need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets.
	So if you've got hundreds of thousands of dollars, you can be safe if you're Cori Bush.
	If you're an average citizen, if you're living in a crummy part of town, screw you, defund the police.
	Right, and the issue is she says, hey, I've got these threats against my life.
	There are moms, domestic violence victims, who have threats against their lives.
	There are guys who say, I don't want to be in the gang life anymore.
	And so they try to get out of the gangs.
	They've got threats against their lives.
	There are people who have gone in the community to the police to get information about crimes they've seen.
	They've got threats on their lives.
	And so what makes her, an elected official, a servant, more apt to get security?
	What makes her more privileged?
	To get security and the common folks in our neighborhoods and our communities shouldn't have that same security.
	It's really a question that I think she alone with that soundbite actually helped us to understand that, you know, the whole thing is nuts.
	So tell us, as a guy who knows, who's walked the beat, you're going to tell your story about your boots in a little bit later, but who suffers when you defund the police?
	Who suffers first?
	Oh, you know, the underprivileged communities.
	The underprivileged communities.
	The minority communities, right?
	And folks will talk right now about equality and equity and black and brown people.
	I was going to say, that's the first group.
	That's the first group that's going to suffer.
	It's not her.
	It's not me.
	No, absolutely.
	And Sebastian, it's the answer to the test.
	are that these communities are going to suffer.
	And it's already happened.
	We've seen across the board that black and brown communities absolutely are going to suffer.
	And they're going to be the ones that are the victims.
	And these folks who think that because they've got money and they've got status and titles, they should be protected and communities shouldn't.
	If she was in this studio right now, what would you say to Cori Bush?
	I would say, you know, your priorities are all wrong.
	Well, first of all, I would probably say I don't think you should be in the office that you're in.
	I get that the people, the folks elected you there, and so I have to respect their right to vote, but I don't think that you deserve, I don't think that you're equipped or knowledgeable enough to be in that seat.
	So that's the first thing.
	But then I'm going to unpack all the reasons why she's absolutely wrong on the policies, certainly those ones that have to do with public safety.
	All right, we're talking to Tim Parrish of an amazing organization, relatively new, it's called We Back The Blue.
	If you understand the real world, if you understand the truth, if you understand that man is fundamentally fallen, you're not going to, if somebody told you, I'm going to eradicate crime, I'm going to eradicate prostitution and theft, you wouldn't believe them, right?
	Because it's part of human nature.
	What you do is you have a management of those threats, you Push them to a level that it is actually amenable to living your life as safely as possible.
	We'll talk about how you get that done.
	I like the broken windows policy that came out of New York, Bratton, Giuliani and others.
	But we've got a professional here who is fighting for Leo's across the country.
	Tim.
	Let's go straight to that issue of how it works.
	We have Chicago where on an average weekend more people are shot than are shot in Kabul by the weekend in Afghanistan.
	Can I ask you what your professional opinion is of the gun issue?
	Talk to us about, is it more gun laws?
	Will criminals ever obey those gun laws?
	Or is it something else?
	No, so I always say that laws are only as effective as the people who are willing to obey them.
	Right.
	So you can write a law for everything.
	I sped on my way here even though there was a sign that said I should do this speed limit, right?
	The law is only as effective as the people that are willing to obey them.
	He didn't do that, Chief Conte.
	No, I'm kidding.
	Just an example.
	You know, it's not moral laws.
	It's actually enforcement.
	I have a saying, and it's not mine.
	I heard it somewhere.
	Someone said that when the cat's away, the mice will play.
	And so when you pull the police or any force or any mechanism by which you're there to enforce laws and keep people safe, when you pull that away, people absolutely are going to recognize that.
	And they're going to say, I've got free reign.
	Absolutely.
	Crime is about opportunity.
	People that are criminals are opportunists.
	They see areas that they can exploit, they see areas they can take advantage of, and they do it.
	And that's where we get crime.
	And so when you pull out police and you pull out the enforcement mechanisms, of course people are going to commit more crimes.
	I don't think that adding more laws to the books is the solution.
	The solution is just to enforce the ones that you already have.
	Right, so if you are a recidivist perpetrator of violent crime with guns, you shouldn't be paroled with no bail?
	No, absolutely.
	You shouldn't be paroled with no bail.
	You shouldn't be allowed to be back on the streets.
	I'll give you a perfect example, Sebastian.
	The little girl that was recently shot in D.C.
	There was one two years ago going to get ice cream, I think she was ten years old, and there's another one that was shot.
	The six-year-old Naya?
	The six-year-old.
	Courtney?
	Yeah, Naya Courtney.
	The guys that shot her and killed her, six years old, robbed her of her entire life.
	They were already in jail when the detectives discovered that those were the men that shot her.
	Because after shooting her, they went and shot somebody else.
	And so they were in jail for a subsequent crime.
	So they were just predators?
	They were absolute predators, but they were people who took advantage of the system.
	They knew that the police were understaffed and under-resourced and couldn't be everywhere all the time.
	They knew that they could carry a gun with no consequence.
	They knew they could pull the trigger haphazardly and not have anything done to them.
	And so they were doing it.
	And so three out of the four guys charging her murder were already in jail because they had committed other crimes.
	And so going back to what Chief Conte was talking about, there's no accountability.
	The police can lock people up and lock people up, and they'll do it because they are dedicated professionals.
	But there's no accountability in the judicial system to hold those folks accountable.
	It's the same thing in Chicago.
	The gun crime, a lot of times, are committed by the same people because nobody wants to hold anyone accountable for the gun.
	For some reason, politicians are afraid of accountability because they know that, depending on what happens with them, that the public, when they go to vote, are going to hold them accountable.
	Right.
	And so they don't extend the accountability to criminals.
	And so we're left here to suffer and folks like Cori Bush and other people descend from their ivory towers to tell us why we're all wrong and why the police are bad while also having their own security force.
	You know, it's like I keep saying, it's nuts and it's cyclical idiocy is what I call it.
	That's good.
	Because we just go in circles around these ideas that have never worked and so.
	I'm going to use that cyclical idiocy.
	So where does it break?
	Where does it end?
	Are we just going to sit here and wait until the parts of the community that suffer the most are going to say stop it?
	No, I don't think so.
	I think there are already people identifying that.
	I will tell you this, I represent an organization that's non-political, but I'm going to make a comment that is political.
	We only see these things come to light when they impact white liberals.
	And I know that that is something that's not popular, but it's true.
	I think it's true.
	It's absolutely true.
	You know, I did a tweet recently.
	I was listening to somebody else's podcast.
	Who was it?
	It was, oh, I was listening to an interview with Victor Davis Hanson and he said, you know the problem in America today, and I love the line, I already tweeted it, and you can call me a racist because I'm white.
	I said, the problem, the problem is white rich liberals.
	That's the problem!
	They're driving this lunacy.
	What did you call it?
	Cyclical lunacy?
	Cyclical idiocy.
	So what happens is, Sebastian, I'll give you a perfect example.
	This is all rooted in fact.
	Crime's been going through the roof all summer in D.C.
	since COVID.
	Carjackings, you name it.
	Yeah, I mean, time after time after time.
	We actually saw an Asian-American guy, the Uber driver that was from Pakistan, two 16-year-olds carjack him, pepper spray the guy, drag him down the street and kill him.
	That story really didn't get all the attention.
	But as soon as there was a shooting at the Nat Stadium, Or the diplomat!
	Right, the diplomat thing.
	You know, as soon as there was... That's so sad.
	The story that didn't get any... Right over in the southeast, in the 7th district, you had an infant in a car seat with his dad get shot.
	Nobody ever heard about it.
	It's tragic.
	And killed.
	But what happens is as soon as it impacts a certain class of people... As soon as the CNN correspondent is in the restaurant... Right.
	And he does, oh, I heard the shots fired... I hear my wife.
	Suddenly weaker.
	It's tragic.
	It's so sad.
	Okay, Tim.
	I don't want to...
	I don't get you in trouble, Tim, because you're a good guy and we're having fun.
	And you said you represent a non-political organization, but you made a statement that's a little bit political and it's actually true.
	So let's talk about it.
	Let's do a little bit of intersectionality and identity politics, which we hate.
	You're black.
	Yeah.
	All day.
	Till midnight and beyond.
	BLM.
	Good, bad.
	Has it affected the law enforcement community?
	Has it affected black America?
	Yeah.
	Well, I'll tell you this.
	Everything I like to say is rooted in fact.
	I like to keep it pretty factual.
	And so in the South where I grew up, there's a saying... Where did you grow up?
	Down in Florida.
	And they say the proof is in the pudding down there.
	And so when we look at the issues impacting that organization, it's an ideology that we have to not subscribe to.
	But here's the thing.
	All of the leaders of BLM right now, a report came out that showed they went from living in apartments and condos and all these things.
	Now they all have 8,000 square feet homes in Beverly Hills.
	Four homes.
	They go on a shopping spree for four homes.
	One of the founders, who calls herself a Marxist.
	It's a little ironic.
	Right.
	And then the mothers of the victims, if you will, of all these things, Breonna Taylor.
	I think George Floyd's mom was involved.
	Trayvon Martin from down near where I grew up in Sanford, Florida.
	All these guys that were kind of the figureheads of the movement, they all said, hey, we're sitting high and dry here.
	You made millions?
	And the survivors of the family got nothing.
	No support, no advocacy, no nothing.
	Beyond that, this message, because we have critical race theory, we have the school boards, we have this idea that's really permeating across America.
	And I think a lot of parents have woken up that if you're white, even if you're a six-year-old, you can't help it.
	You're racist.
	Whatever you do, you're racist and you don't know it.
	Or, if you're black, you're always going to be a victim.
	Right, right.
	Does that help anybody?
	It doesn't.
	And I think that that has to be, that last part that you mentioned, Sebastian, has to be something that parents, black parents in particular, that they reject and they don't tell their kids.
	I'll tell you that the only reason why I passed middle and high school, and this is a shout out to my mom if she's listening, my mother would stand... She better be.
	You're listening, right?
	She better be listening.
	We love you.
	My mom would stand at the front door when I was leaving for school every morning, and she would say to me, son, do your best, be your best, look your best, speak your best, because you are the best.
	Every day?
	Every day!
	Five days a week, every single day.
	She would say that.
	And so black parents have to reject this ideology.
	So they should be standing there and saying, whatever you do, you're going to be oppressed, you're never going to get anywhere, the white man's going to put you down.
	And so parents have to do that.
	They have to tell their kids that they are the best, that they're not.
	And that, every day, Sebastian, leaving the house, gave me this thought process of, hey, I have to work hard because I'm the best.
	Now, you put me in a math class and quickly realized that I wasn't the best.
	But what happens is I had this thought process that I had to perform.
	I had to work hard.
	There was an expectation.
	Because there was an expectation.
	And I didn't ever think that I was oppressed or less than simply because I had a little bit more melanin than the next guy.
	So let's go beyond the role of the mother and the father.
	The thing, maybe I'm not allowed to say this because I'm white, but I'm an American so I'm gonna.
	I'm really saddened.
	I'm worse than that.
	I am maybe disgusted even.
	Yeah, I'm gonna say disgusted if you talk to my buddy Larry Elder who has all the facts Larry Elder's radio show God bless him I he's running for governor of California.
	I hope he gets it Larry Elder is a black American He just he tells it like it is six 19 unarmed black men shot by police in a year.
	19.
	6,000 shot by their fellow black Americans.
	That's genocide.
	I don't want Black Lives Matter talking to me about Derek Chauvin when 6,000 blacks are dying every year at the hand of their fellow black Americans.
	So I see, I'm really disgusted at the lack of I hate the word community organizer.
	I want to see the black community, I want to see the church leaders stand up and do something.
	Where are they?
	Where is the black community leadership that isn't radical and BLM?
	There's an old church song my dad used to play every Saturday that said, sweep around your own front door before you try to sweep around mine.
	And so that absolutely is an issue that we have to address.
	Are you disappointed?
	Absolutely.
	People push back on me when I make this statement, but I say all the time, when I ask the question, what about black-on-black crime?
	I'm not saying to ignore other crime.
	I'm just saying, hey, while we're here finding solutions, let's find this one too.
	You know, we can absolutely take care of this issue in the black community.
	There's nearly a million police officers or law enforcement officers in the country and the numbers simply don't add up, Sebastian, of the amount of... I think there's somewhere around 3 million police interactions that happen a day.
	And the number of times that police officers discharge their firearms, whether it be in defense or neglect, simply don't add up to the narrative.
	But when you go to Chicago, when you go to Washington, D.C., when you go to some of these major cities, Baltimore, oh God, when you go to these places, the numbers are astounding.
	And so there absolutely is a level of accountability and self-police, if you will, that the black community, that we have to do in order to address this situation.
	And what doesn't work is saying that we're killing ourselves because of the white man who's doing this issue.
	Right?
	That is not the solution.
	The two guys outside the diplomat are shooting guns because of a white guy.
	Right.
	It doesn't work.
	That narrative doesn't work.
	And I'm shocked, Sebastian, as a younger person, when I hear my grandparents talk and they talk about, in their generation, there were these same issues.
	And we still haven't found the same proposed solutions, and we still haven't found the, you know, my dad grew up in the 70s and 80s, and, you know, there were the same issues then that there are now, and some of the same people that we're still putting our trust and faith in to solve them, right?
	And like I said, I won't go political, but- Who got very rich out of saying they're fixing it.
	Yeah, and so it's not, it's like taking your car to a car mechanic for 47 years, and he's like, no, no, this time I'm gonna get it.
	I'm gonna fix it this time.
	Yeah, that's kind of where we are.
	Let me ask you, because you've been very candid.
	Is America, like the Washington Post in 1619 project tells us, is it a systematically racist nation?
	It's not.
	It's absolutely not.
	I've been to 41 countries.
	What?
	41 countries.
	That's more than me!
	Wow.
	either on leisure or in service to the government.
	41 countries.
	Wow.
	And I've seen some real atrocities.
	And racist countries.
	Oh, I've seen some real – you want to talk racism.
	And there's two different ways that when people talk to me about systematic racism in America, I respond two different ways.
	I was lucky enough to grow up with my great-grandfather, Herbert James Heumann.
	He grew up in South Carolina in the 20s and 30s.
	His sister, my great-great-aunt, lived here in D.C.
	And so when I was stationed here, I got to go talk to her.
	And she would say to me all the time in her Southern accent, boy, you don't know racism.
	And I would always say, what are you talking about?
	And she would say, the stuff that we dealt with, what you guys are dealing with, it's not racism.
	It's that, right?
	And so she wouldn't invalidate that there was racism.
	This is not a racist country.
	Yeah.
	I've been to places, Sebastian, I think that's a part of the issue is that people who aren't exposed to other areas for comparison don't really know how to, you know, I've been to some, some countries like Pakistan, where it was proselytizing.
	If you share your faith, you can be killed.
	You know, you could go down the list, but I actually absolutely I object to the idea that America is systematically a racist country.
	It's just not true.
	So I want to end with a little bit of a, you know, what do you say to your fellow police officers who are stuck right now in this morale kind of mess?
	I want to get you to talk to black Americans who are being told that they are always going to be oppressed.
	But first, I love that.
	I love the story you told about Chief Conte.
	That was a very cool story.
	Do you want to share that one about who was driving somewhere?
	And then your story about what you did as a cop with your boots every day.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So would you say that to our millions of listeners?
	Absolutely.
	So you want the Conte story first.
	Do the Conte story.
	So this is a, like I said, I told you the other day.
	The new chief in DC.
	Right, new chief in DC driving along and... In his car.
	In his car.
	With his driver.
	with his driver and he's driving down the road and this is the story that as it was told to me uh there's there he sees a fight at a church and he's the chief he's the top cop cruiser one and uh he hop tells his driver hey pull over uh we're gonna go address this we're gonna go be the police hops out of the car and goes over and breaks these guys up uh gets over the radio and calls for officers to come of course the whole department comes when he's calling and you know he separates these guys uh de-escalates the situation
	And what rep?
	What rep does that get him?
	Oh, he gets absolute street cred.
	Because he's a real cop.
	He's a real cop.
	You know, he's not just wearing the badge and a gun.
	Because you said other chiefs would say... Other chiefs would have said, get me out of here.
	Floor it.
	Drive away, right?
	That's cool.
	Not too distant.
	In the past, chiefs would have said, get me out of here.
	But this chief, Robert Conte, said, no, stop.
	We're the police.
	We're going to address this thief.
	In uniform, I got a job to do.
	I got a badge.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	I'm still the police.
	Love it.
	Alright, tell your little story about your mental tool that you have.
	My mental tool, yeah.
	So in order for me to just kind of decompress and make sure that I was keeping everything in perspective and, you know... We're bringing home the bad stuff, right?
	Yeah, I would.
	When I would come in for my shift, I would never wear my home shoes to the department and I would never wear my street shoes home.
	And so what I would do is I would sit on the bench in front of my locker and I would take my home shoes off.
	And I'd put my boots on and that was a mental exercise for me to say, Tim, get your head in the game, you're going to be the police, this is dangerous, keep your head on a swivel, all that stuff.
	And at the end of the shift, no matter what had happened, no matter what I'd seen that night, I would take those boots off and I would say, okay Tim, leave all of the issues, leave all the problems, leave everything you just saw here with the boots.
	And I would put the boots in the locker, and lock the locker, and put my home shoes back on.
	And that was my exercise to get my head in the game at the beginning of the shift, and at the end to leave everything there, and not take any of the drama home.
	So that's what I did every day, every time I went in.
	It's one of the things we say at the end of every show, we say, keep your head in a swivel, watch your six, hold the line, never give up, never give in, and stay frosty.
	Now you know where I got the phrase, keep your head in a swivel, it's from a very dear, a law enforcement friend.
	Okay, last two questions.
	I really enjoyed getting to know you.
	We've got to go back and have some more cigars.
	We've got to support your organization.
	Please guys, check it out.
	WeBlackBlue.com.
	Check out Tim and his team there.
	Let's flip it.
	What is your message to black Americans of any age listening to this show?
	Because they might be tuning in or found us on a podcast.
	So Sebastian, the first thing I would say is go back and look at black history.
	Like every community, like every group, we stand on the shoulders of giants.
	When you go back and look at what black Americans have contributed to this country, inventions from things like the street light, to peanut butter, to whatever you want to name it, There's a legacy there that we have an obligation to continue and we stand on the shoulders of giants.
	The guys in history, black Americans throughout history, dealt with far greater oppression and still were successful.
	And didn't see themselves as victims.
	And they contributed greatly to this country and so moving forward now with the technology that we have and you know, the access to education and the not similar oppression that those guys had to deal with, we can accomplish so much.
	We stand on the shoulders of giants and we have to continue to contribute to what is the greatest nation on the planet.
	That would be my first message.
	Actually, that'd be my only message.
	We stand on the shoulders of giants.
	We can do whatever we need to do to contribute to this great nation.
	I love it.
	To Leos who are still in the bag, still in uniform, still on patrol, still in their cruisers, who see this, you're a fascist, you're a racist, even if you're black, because I've seen that.
	I've seen black cops screamed at in D.C.
	In D.C.
	I mean foul language being called racist.
	What do you say to them and those who are losing morale and think this defund police thing is going to win?
	I would say first and foremost recognize that there is a community that needs you.
	As much as people will get into the drama, into the fray, there's a community that needs our police officers.
	I say all the time to officers when I talk to them that no matter what happens politically, no matter what happens, there will always be evil.
	It's always going to be there.
	And we need people like our brave police officers to stand in the gap and keep that gap nice and wide to keep it from the evil from the good people.
	I say all the time that democracy, our Bill of Rights, everything that we believe in as a nation is sustained on the backs of our police officers.
	The fact that we don't have utter chaos in the streets is sustained on the backs of our police officers.
	I would say to our officers that we need you.
	You are supported.
	We love you.
	But most importantly, there's a community that needs you, that needs you to continue to do your job and do it well.
	Our officers are great.
	They stand above the fray.
	They stand above all the noise and the drama.
	We need them to keep that heart and keep doing it.
	We Back Blue.
	It's a fabulous message.
	They are on the front line.
	Please support them.
	WeBackBlue.com.
	As ever, you've been listening to America First one-on-one.
	Keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.
	And stay frosty.
	Thank you, Tim.

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