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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Randy Andy is gone, but can we save New York?

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	Here at America First, we owe so very, very much to you, our dear listeners and viewers.
	Just over a day ago, I was sent a video from the Mount Vernon School Board meeting by one of you.
	I asked my team to post it on social media.
	In the last day, it has garnered 3.3 million views on my Twitter feed and 1.8 million views on my Instagram feed.
	In it, Dr. Dan Stock has this to say.
	Why is a vaccine that is supposedly so effective having a breakout in the middle of the summer when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that?
	And to help you understand that, you need to know the condition that is called antibody-mediated viral enhancement.
	That is a condition done when vaccines work wrong, as they did in every coronavirus study done in animals, on coronaviruses after the SARS outbreak, and done in respiratory syncytial virus, where a vaccine used in a vulnerable individual Done the wrong way, which why it cannot be done right for a respiratory virus which has a very low pathogenicity rate, causes the immune system to actually fight the virus wrong and let the virus become worse than it would with native infection.
	For six minutes explaining all the things you should know about the coronavirus vaccines and masks, things that we're not allowed to talk about and that's why it is viral and we are delighted We are honored to have with us from the Pure Health Functional Family Health Medicine Clinic, Dr. Dan Stock on America First.
	Dr. Stock, welcome.
	Thank you.
	Let's start with why you made that speech.
	Why did you feel that you needed to stand up in public and give those data points to everybody in the room and watching that video?
	Well, I think the discussion that's gone on around COVID-19 has actually been pretty superficial from the time it started, Sebastian, and much has been left out and much has been allowed for people to assume that is really not correct.
	I think most people don't know about the difficult track record of trying to make vaccines for respiratory viral pathogens.
	You know, this has actually worked out less frequently well than it has worked out badly.
	And I'm not sure they understand the epidemiology and what's possible and what's not possible with a viral pathogen.
	Let's start with that.
	Let's start with this idea that you can stop the spread of a virus and you can stop the spread with vaccines.
	What is wrong with that assertion, Dr. Danstock?
	Well, first of all, it just never worked.
	And the reason it doesn't work is because of animal reservoirs.
	Explain that.
	Explain the animal reservoirs.
	So there are other animals, I think to date, cats, bats, civets, mink, and I just found out deer, have been shown that they become infected with the virus.
	It may not cause them disease, but they become infected.
	It replicates in their respiratory systems and they breathe it back out.
	If we're going to associate with these other animals, which we will, then we're going to get virus from them and it'll replicate in the healthy people and pass on to other people through their respiratory systems without causing disease until it gets to somebody whose immune system isn't actually good enough to fight off the virus and that person then will get symptomatic disease.
	Because there are animal reservoirs and it's really, really difficult to keep masks on dogs, And it's kind of expensive to vaccinate them.
	Not that the vaccine would stop spread anyway, because no vaccine actually can prevent you from getting infected and having virus replicate in you.
	It just makes it so it replicates to a lower degree that you don't get symptoms.
	So to make a virus disappear, you can't have animal reservoirs.
	We were able to make smallpox go away, mostly because it didn't have an animal reservoir.
	It only infected humans.
	So the idea that we're going to be able to.
	Yeah, the idea that we're going to be able to somehow make it so that this virus will go away and human beings will never have to suffer from it again is a very misleading proposition.
	And the fascinating point you made about these so-called breakthrough infections, talk to us about the way the vaccine is being used and why people are getting sick after they got it in the summertime.
	Well, you know, most of the time for multiple reasons.
	Largely, I think, because vitamin D levels are up higher over the summer and drop over the winter.
	And because people spend more time indoor in the winter, the amount of virus you're contacting and the quality of your immune system drops over the winter.
	We usually see them peak then.
	So to see a viral respiratory pathogen peaking in the middle of the summer, which it, you know, it didn't do this last year.
	It actually started to go down as the summer came in for those very reasons I just mentioned.
	But the fact that it's peaking right now actually coincides with about six or seven months into a vaccine program with a virus that we've never proven doesn't cause virally, cause antibody-mediated viral enhancement in which most other vaccines for these types of pathogens have induced that very problem where the immune system actually learns to fight the virus wrong and actually gives you a worse immune response than you would have had with innate infection.
	Now, I don't want to say that it's completely worse and necessarily harmful.
	We don't know exactly to what degree it's going to cause antibody-mediated viral enhancement, whether it will do it to the point where it actually becomes lethal, as the RSV virus trials in the 1960s did, or whether it'll just make people so that you still get symptoms more frequently, but maybe you don't get hospitalized.
	We don't know, because the research on these vaccines has been so substandard, so below what we do for other vaccines, It will probably never have this question answered.
	I think the bigger question is, and this is the point I most wanted to make to the school board, is the misperception that somehow or other, if you wear a mask or you get a vaccine, you're doing something that protects somebody else beside yourself.
	The data to prove that is just not there, and the data argues against that, is, to my reading, just very overwhelmingly I have here, after your speech, during your speech, you mentioned all the studies that support what you have to say.
	I've got the 22 studies that you made available printed out in front of me.
	This is a man who backs up what he has to say.
	The video As I say, it has been viewed by more than 5 million people after I posted it yesterday.
	You've got to see it.
	It's at the top of my Twitter feed.
	It is pinned at Seb Gorka.
	It's on my Instagram feed as well, Sebastian underscore Gorka.
	It's been deleted from YouTube.
	but it is on Rumble on our account, rumble.com slash S-E-B-G-O-R-K-A. Dr. Stock, talk to us, if you will, about therapeutics and how come we're not allowed to talk about medicines to deal with the coronavirus.
	Well, this actually has to do with the way the federal government has taken over the financing of health care.
	A little over a decade ago, the federal government decided that what would be a really good way to run Medicare and Medicaid was to form these organizations called Accountable Care Organizations.
	Most of your large health networks are Accountable Care Organizations.
	It's something that employs all of the different arms of healthcare, from the physical therapist to the doctors to the nurses to the transportation aides.
	And the government decided that if you joined an ACO, you would get a slight improvement in your reimbursement.
	And if you weren't part of an ACO, you would get a reduction in your reimbursement.
	And this was rapidly followed by the insurance companies as well.
	And then when you became part of an ACO, you would have a restricted contract that said if you ever tried to leave that health network, you had to move 10 to 50 miles away for one to two years, couldn't contact your patients when you were leaving, couldn't tell them where you were going or take your records with you.
	So basically you become an indentured servant because your patients are your source of income, correct?
	Well, that's right.
	I mean, our capital in a doctor's practice, his capital is his patient's faith in his advice and their ability to get to them, and the hospital or health network could basically sever that.
	So doctors all knew that they were now financial hostages, but they couldn't really compete against the insurance companies and get paid if they didn't join these things.
	So they joined and then with the advent of electronic medical records where the accountable care organization could know every time that you wrote a prescription for ivermectin they knew exactly what you wrote it for because you had to link the two.
	And therefore you could be punished and you could earn less.
	This is just the scratching of the surface of the truth that you need to know that this brave man is getting out there.
	Check him out right now PureHealthMed.com.
	Dr. Dan Stock, he'll be on my show on Newsmax this weekend on Sunday.
	That's PureHealthMed.com.
	God bless you, Dr. Stock.
	Never stop speaking the truth.
	Never stop speaking the truth.
	Mic's on?
	Did you say you can add or you can edit chyrons afterwards?
	Uh, yeah.
	Can you add his URL halfway through PureHealthMed.com?
	PureHealthMed.com.
	Yeah, just put it on for half of a... Alright, Moore's next.
	And you say we've got to record this?
	Yeah, do you want to do that now?
	Yeah.
	Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
	Okay. Okay. The
	End The
	End America first.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Welcome back.
	I hope you appreciate and you will excuse me for opening the show with Dr. Stark.
	Just far too important.
	Just the reaction to that video on our social media feeds meant that we had to tell you, we had to get him onto this show to talk to all of you.
	We're going to talk about the resignation.
	It's so weird.
	In two weeks?
	What do you mean?
	Oh, I'll resign in two years of Randy Andy Cuomo and everything that that entails for the state of New York.
	But we have to talk about the swamp.
	They've signed this despicable one trillion dollar bill that is, according to Joe Biden, who's talking now, it's what the American people want.
	Let's ask somebody who I think will dissent from that opinion.
	The man who wrote the book Trumponomics, Stephen Moore.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hi, Sebastian.
	By the way, I was listening to the president a few minutes ago.
	That's the reason I was a minute too late for your show.
	Look, it is true that Americans want the potholes fixed, and they do want safe bridges and tunnels, and we do want less traffic congestion.
	But, Sebastian, out of this trillion-dollar bill, Only at most one out of every four dollars.
	It's false advertising.
	They even call this an infrastructure bill.
	This is not an infrastructure bill, folks.
	This is a green energy.
	It's a Green New Deal bill.
	And AOC and Bernie Sanders are laughing all the way to the bank.
	And isn't it more than just the Green New Deal, the Green New Steel repackaged or mislabeled as infrastructure?
	This abortion of a bill, 2,700 pages, is just a slew, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of new regulations which by themselves actually encourage inflation.
	You're the economist, tell me if I'm wrong.
	No, you are.
	You're quite correct.
	And you're touching on an issue that a lot of people haven't been paying attention to, which is it's a massive giveaway to the unions.
	Right.
	And so, for example, you know, to build a bridge, you know, let's say it's a four million dollar bridge.
	It costs the government about twice as much money as it costs the private sector to build a bridge.
	Yes.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because, you know, the government has all these labor giveaways, you know, and for people making, you know, a good salary and so on.
	But I mean, my God, my goodness, the fraud that goes on in these programs.
	And then the environmental regulations.
	You know, Trump used to, you were a member of his White House team.
	You know, he used to rail about why does it take 10 years to build a road in this country?
	And they're making the regulations.
	Remember, Trump wanted to streamline all those regulations.
	And the first thing Biden did when he came in was repeal all of those Trump measures to deregulate the economy.
	So you are quite correct.
	It's going to be much, much more.
	You know, by the way, there is no way we could build the Brooklyn Bridge today.
	There is no way we could build the Hoover Dam.
	Steve, I look at the fact that the Empire State Building was built in something like 18 months.
	You couldn't find anybody to build it in five years today. - No way!
	No way!
	And you're right about that.
	And it was almost all done with private money, and it was done at record speed.
	And, you know, a good example is there's a famous bridge that goes over the Charles River into Cambridge.
	And it was built... There's a good video you can watch on YouTube on this.
	It was built, I don't know, 75 or 100 years ago.
	And now they need to fix it.
	And it's going to cost 10 times as much money to fix the bridge, just to fix the bridge, than it cost adjusted for inflation to build it in the first place.
	And yet, think about this.
	Think about the incredible technological improvements we have over the last 75 or 80 years.
	And, by the way, it's going to take them three times as long to fix the bridge than it took them to build the bridge.
	I love.
	My favorite story from the White House in this vein was the EEOB, the Executive Eisenhower Building, where we had our overflow offices, is this amazing, amazing, full of marble and steel, beautiful, classic architecture.
	And in the 1920s, some joker said, it's not very American.
	It's a little bit too European.
	We need to dismantle it and put something in its place that's more redolent of America.
	They did the feasibility study, Steve, because it was so well built in classic style with classic materials, it would have cost more to dismantle it and take it apart than to build it.
	Okay, so that's why we still have the EOB.
	So, Stephen, it's been signed.
	Tell us what this means for Americans, for the economy, and how, crucially, small business owners can survive in the midst of this more regulated environment.
	So, one other aspect of the bill I want to mention, which is, you know, there's Tens and tens of billions of dollars for mass transit.
	People don't use mass transit.
	We're in a new era.
	I mean, in 10 or 15 years, we're going to have, you know, automated cars.
	You know, people will be able to drive anywhere they want to at a fraction of the cost they do today.
	We don't need mass transit.
	By the way, mass transit was the single biggest transmitter of the COVID virus of anything else.
	Good point.
	And so anyway, so there's tens of billions for that.
	How about this one?
	Wall Street Journal had this in their paper on Monday.
	Something like $50 billion for Amtrak.
	I mean, why don't we just privatize it and let the private sector run the railroads?
	I mean, the government's run this thing in the ground for 15 years.
	Can't we just buy every family like their own train or their own Bugatti Veyron or something?
	Yeah, on the transit stuff, in many cities, it would be cheaper for us to basically give limousine service to people than to run these stupid transit systems.
	So it's a colossal waste of money.
	And here's what worries me.
	As we speak, because they just passed that bill.
	By the way, shame on the 19 Republicans who voted for the Schumer bill.
	Yes.
	What are they thinking?
	What are they thinking, Sebastian?
	We have a $20 trillion debt headed to another $20 trillion.
	And they're spending another trillion.
	We should be cutting government spending now, not raising it.
	And so as soon as they put the, you know, hit the gavel on the table and said, OK, we passed this bill.
	Schumer introduced his $3.5 trillion social welfare bill.
	He is laughing all the way to the bank.
	He can't believe the Republicans were so stupid to fall for this.
	So everything that Republicans wouldn't vote for, they put in this other bill, which is going to be what I call the war of the world.
	We have got to stop that bill, Sebastian.
	It is filled with every left-wing crazy lunatic idea that they've come up with for the last 30 or 40 years stuffed into one bill.
	They want to get rid of right-to-work laws.
	They want to have critical race theory.
	They want to make D.C.
	a state.
	I mean, every idea they have, by some estimate, by some estimate, that bill is going to be, are you ready for this, Sebastian?
	30,000 pages long.
	Oh, come on.
	No, no.
	They are really rewriting the entire laws of the American economy.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on.
	I've got the answer, Steve.
	We tell AOC how many dead trees 30,000 pages is, and then she's going to boycott it.
	What do you think?
	I love that I didn't know.
	I mean, this is craziness, folks.
	And it is going to add immeasurably to our debt.
	It also includes the biggest tax increase.
	Friday is the 40th anniversary of the Reagan tax cuts.
	Under the Biden bill, we go back to the tax Carter didn't want to create the disaster he created.
	when we high inflation, high unemployment.
	I mean, this is not a fight and drill, folks.
	This is the real thing.
	These guys are deadly serious, and they're going to bankrupt our country.
	Carter didn't want to create the disaster he created.
	These people are actually consciously deciding to bankrupt America and put people out of work.
	Find out what the truth is for them.
	Former advisor to President Trump and candidate Trump.
	Author of Trumponomics.
	Follow him right now at Stephen PH.
	Stephen Moore on Twitter.
	God bless you for speaking the truth.
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	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Do you think your team's big?
	You haven't met my team.
	You mean the Hillsdale team?
	Yeah.
	You'll deploy the Hillsdale team.
	So how did we leave it with him, with Dr. Stark?
	He'll come on Newsmax?
	Yeah, he's coming on.
	Should we get him back for a longer chat tomorrow?
	I mean, I was on the phone with him for like 30 minutes today, talking blout.
	Probably, yeah, he'll do it.
	Yeah, for like a couple segments?
	Yeah, a couple segments.
	Alright.
	It barely got started.
	I know, I know.
	I mean, he has so much to say.
	Is he still talking?
	Surprisingly.
	Wasn't the original bill $4.2 trillion?
	I think his proposal was... It's a bit of a climb down.
	Yeah, but they split it up.
	Well, now the reconciliation package is at a 3.5.
	Yeah, so... Do you like my ploy?
	With AOC?
	I thought that was genius.
	Jesus.
	What is it about that video?
	I need to understand.
	I think it's like the Dan Erickson thing.
	And also, a lot of those videos are just going viral.
	You know?
	Like a lot of the school board stuff, etc.
	It's going viral, you know?
	He needs to get a Twitter account.
	You just being the guy who did it is a big part of it.
	Why?
	So he can get suspended?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Get banned on YouTube.
	Yeah.
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	They must have given him a shot of adrenaline.
	Sleepy Creepy's still talking.
	It's been at least 15 minutes.
	We'll see how long he lasts.
	He looks like he's running out of steam, though.
	He's kind of like...
	Pausing with his mouth open.
	Never a good look.
	Let's talk about people who do look good, especially when they're making predictions that are fulfilled in less than 24 hours.
	Did you hear me yesterday live on air?
	I walked into my own trap.
	I did my own Admiral Ackbar.
	I wanted all my team to back me up to say, Randy Andy Cuomo's not going out anywhere.
	Eric, who's got my six, said, you're right, Dr. G. The professor backed me up.
	And then I went to Jeff, who said, no, he's going to resign.
	What?
	How dare he say that live on radio?
	Sure enough, he was right.
	The big news of the day.
	He's leaving.
	Well, he's kind of half pregnant.
	I don't know how he does that because he's resigning in 14 days.
	I need to know right now.
	Get your headphones on.
	Get up to that mic.
	How on earth did you know Jeff, otherwise known as Mr. G?
	The New York Post had that report that came out right before you had asked for that and I was reading it.
	They said that Cuomo was trying to make a deal in order to not get impeached.
	He would promise to not run for his fourth term.
	That's all the guy cares about is rerunning.
	He wants to be in power.
	The fact that he was willing to do that, I just felt like he was on his way out.
	So the fact that he didn't want to get impeached meant to you that he was signaling that he's done?
	Exactly.
	Because he was giving up the thing that's the most important to him.
	Rerunning and still being governor.
	Right, so this is the thing you said to us that kind of blew my mind in the production meeting today.
	You said he steps down now or in 14 days.
	So weird.
	And then he's gonna run again?
	Absolutely, and I don't trust if he made that deal with the legislator, he would have done the same thing, he would have rerun.
	Okay, so what do we think now that the announcement has been made?
	Has our buddy Lee Zeldin, Congressman Zeldin of New York's 1st Congressional District, who's running for governor, has he got a shot?
	It's got to be better now.
	I mean, how can this be good for the Democrats?
	Indeed, and by the way, What about Grissom Newsom?
	You could be next!
	You could be next, Gavin Newsom, who happens to be Nancy Pelosi's nephew.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Edward Los Angeles.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey, how you doing, Dr. Gorga?
	Good!
	Pretty good, pretty good, pretty good.
	Randy Andy's on his way out in 14 days, so it's got to be a good start.
	I've been listening to you since day one.
	I follow you on Newsmax and YouTube, but my question today, Whatever happened to the Durham report?
	I don't know.
	even know if John Durham exists?
	Do you think he's real or a figment of somebody's imagination?
	I don't know.
	I mean, I've just been wondering.
	I mean, it's just...
	I thought maybe you might know something back there.
	No, all I've heard, all I've heard, again, I've never met the man.
	This is the former U.S. attorney for Connecticut who has an impressive reputation for putting feds behind bars.
	This is a man who actually had federal agents charged, prosecuted and sent to jail for their corruption.
	So this is his remit looking into the stinking morass that is federal law enforcement.
	but But we have one piece of empirical evidence that it went from an administrative investigation, what was it, like two years ago, a year and a half ago, to a criminal investigation, which means he found enough to charge people with.
	But there's no leaks from any putative grand jury.
	We don't even know if there is a grand jury.
	And what, we're six months, six months plus into the Biden regime and nothing, nothing, zilch, not one leak.
	At this point, I don't really care, because the DOJ is in charge of a complete political hack, so I don't expect anything.
	But Edward, thanks for your loyalty.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's reward that man with a signed copy of whichever book he wants.
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	Food.
	Alright.
	I am going to print off the list and it is not a good list.
	Seventeen, right?
	Seventeen.
	Nineteen.
	Nineteen.
	Nineteen, and I was telling Jeff this.
	And Mitch, right?
	Oh yeah, Mitch voted for it.
	There's gotta be a bunch of pork that was in this bill.
	Multiple states saw both of their senators, both senators from North Dakota, both senators from North Carolina, both senators from Alaska, all voted for this thing.
	So we have a list of everybody who has to go.
	Can you zoom out a bit?
	Yeah.
	Did Ron Johnson vote for it?
	No, not Ron Johnson.
	A handful of, uh... He's the funny one, right?
	He's Wisconsin.
	He's the funny one.
	Yeah, I like... No, no, no, that's Kennedy.
	Oh, that's Kennedy.
	Ron Johnson's from Wisconsin.
	He's pretty good at it.
	America first what's your name?
	Doo-doo-doo!
	Thank you.
	Two minutes.
	Food.
	Can you use the audio?
	I might, yeah.
	I might.
	He might.
	I might.
	Yeah, that's, we changed it.
	We're just doing, yeah, we're just doing the 40 minutes now.
	But you can get the full show on Rumble.
	The live stream's up there.
	All the usual suspects are on the list, of course, but a lot of others.
	Let's have a look.
	A handful of the- Chuck Grassley, Lindsey Graham.
	Who is Deb Fisher?
	Mike Crapo.
	I mean, just great names.
	A handful of the lame ducks, too.
	Oh, Richard Burr.
	Lame duck, scumbag.
	Lame duck, Rob Portman, Richard Burr.
	Grassley, Murkowski, Portman.
	Romney!
	Of course.
	Tillis.
	Roy Blunt, another lame duck.
	So what is this?
	Did they get two-thirds of the Senate?
	That's 69 votes.
	Yeah, that's basically it.
	Yeah, over two-thirds.
	That's how it do be, you know.
	Washington is back to normal, everybody.
	Yeah.
	Bring back the berserker.
	The wrecking ball.
	Yeah.
	No, I can't.
	Ever since that stupid song, I can't think of Wrecking Ball.
	Demolition Derby.
	Let's think of it that way then.
	Demolition Man?
	One Man Demo Man.
	Question mark.
	That's a good movie.
	Yeah, it's alright.
	Oh, I was thinking of the character from TF2.
	Oh man.
	Oh, man.
	20 seconds to stand by.
	Standing.
	The Giuliani at some point.
	Okay.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense.
	Here's Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
	There's a rather iconoclastic character on Twitter.
	He goes by the nom de guerre apologies of Cat Turd.
	It's an interesting account, and with regards to the news out of the governor's mansion, he has this to say today.
	I'm the greatest, and I didn't do anything wrong, but I'm resigning anyway.
	Signed, Andrew Cuomo.
	Pretty much sums it up.
	Good riddance.
	Oh, this is what I tweeted out earlier today.
	Yeah, he's resigned.
	Now, let's prosecute him for killing 15,000 New Yorkers.
	Let's get busy.
	And hats off.
	We salute you, Janice Dean of Fox News.
	Relentless.
	After her in-laws died as a result of Cuomo's policies, she went after him like a pit bull.
	And she never let up.
	And today, I texted her.
	Sweet success, a little victory, but now let's get him behind bars and prosecuted for all those homicides.
	I've got to share it with you, the outrageous, the despicable abortion of a bill that is the $1 trillion infrastructure quote-unquote bill.
	These are the 19, 19, count them, Republicans in the Senate who voted for this utter, utter outrage.
	Roy Blunt, Missouri.
	You should really tell them what you think.
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	Roy Blunt, Missouri.
	Richard Burke.
	Richard Burr, North Carolina.
	Shelley Moore Capito, West Virginia.
	Bill Cassidy, Louisiana.
	Susan Collins, Maine, no surprise.
	Kevin Cramer, North Dakota.
	Mike Crapo, Idaho.
	Deb Fisher, Nebraska.
	That great champion of men who was going to take down the DOJ and all the corrupt members of the FBI.
	Lindsey Graham of South Carolina also signed the Democrats' infrastructure bill.
	Chuck Grassley, naturally.
	John Hoeven, North Dakota.
	Mitch McConnell!
	Oh, what a lovely Republican you are, Mitch McConnell.
	Lisa Murkowski, Rob Portman, Ohio.
	James Risch, Idaho.
	Mitt Mittens, Pierre Delecto, Romney of Utah, Dan Sullivan, Tom Tillis, North Carolina, and Roger Wicker, Mississippi.
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	83333 Gorka, 833-334-6752.
	Welcome, Paul.
	Well, thank you.
	Dr. Gorka, that doctor you put on was just phenomenal.
	I know, I'm just so troubled that we only had 11 minutes with him.
	He said to me, I called him up this morning.
	Jeff got me his number.
	He said, you woke up this morning and he had 600 emails after that video.
	So I know.
	Thanks.
	Can we get you on just for a few minutes, Dr. Stark?
	But I still have another question I haven't had an answer to, and that is, and you would know, why didn't President Trump Before he left office, make hydroxychloroquine over-the-counter through some executive order or something.
	We could have saved thousands of lives.
	I had a lot of difficulty getting it over the net.
	I can't get a refill.
	You're in Columbus and you couldn't get, you had difficulty getting a prescription filled?
	No, the prescription I could get filled.
	I couldn't get a doctor to write it.
	My doctor said... I'm curious, what did your doctor say?
	That's not approved.
	What?
	It's been around since the 1950s.
	We gave it to our troops in Vietnam.
	What did you say to your doctor?
	She just ignores whatever I say.
	But my dad was in the South Pacific during World War II and had malaria.
	All those Pacific Rim countries Africa!
	That's why there's barely any COVID in Africa because hydroxychloroquine has been an over-the-counter drug since the 60s.
	Well, could President Trump have done that with executive order, or maybe it wouldn't have worked?
	I don't know the technicalities.
	He probably could have, but that's not the point, Paul.
	It doesn't matter whether he makes it over the counter or not.
	When we're getting callers, we're getting callers here on this show from California saying they managed to get a prescription, it was legal, but then the pharmacist wouldn't fill it.
	It doesn't matter.
	At some point, they wouldn't even have allowed you to buy it.
	That's the insanity of it all.
	Simply because he said it.
	Because Donald Trump, the president, said it is a game changer.
	It's what I took.
	It's what helped me beat COVID.
	So, Paul, he could have done it, but I'm afraid You're thinking logically.
	Don't do that.
	This is The Swamp.
	Stay on the line.
	Let's give Paul a signed copy of The War for America's Soul, Your Call's next special guest, Lord Conrad Black, Congressman Zeldin, Jenna Ellis, and so much more.
	Oh, I didn't get to Rudy.
	I'll do Rudy in E. I was just about to remind you.
	Thank you.
	I'm curious.
	I want a professional opinion from the massive team.
	Yes.
	When I do food for the... I always think coming out of a break is easier for ads because they're listening to ads.
	Then I did it in the middle of a segment and it kind of sounds good to me.
	What do you guys think?
	For the embeds.
	Well, you gotta keep in mind... Imagine your listener is as lazy as humanly possible.
	Right?
	And so, the harder you make it for them to justify changing the channel... So put it in the middle.
	Putting in the middle is a pretty powerful way to do that.
	That's part of the reason why whenever a podcast has an ad, if they know what they're doing, they put it halfway through.
	Yeah, because they always put it at the front, which is like... Yeah.
	If you know what they're doing, you put it at the halfway through, because if you select an episode on your phone, right, and then all of a sudden there's an ad right away, you just have to skip 15 seconds until there's no ad, and then you put your phone in your pocket.
	But if your phone's already in your pocket... The old pocket ploy!
	Or if you have just switched back, To listen to the show from having listened to various other local spot commercials.
	Yes.
	It's going to be harder for you to reach the line.
	Geoff, do you have an opinion?
	Part of it, I think if they've listened to the break, you've got them.
	So.
	If they listen to the break, you've got them.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They're not going to flip.
	Yeah.
	Eric?
	I'm kind of torn.
	They both made really good points.
	I'm not exactly sure which one I side with at this point.
	Either one at this point.
	I mean, you pull off so well.
	You've got to be decisive.
	You're an American.
	Come on.
	You know, I will say for the sake of continuity, so you have uninterrupted content, yeah, I'll go with Geoff and say, do it at the beginning, get out of the way, and then it's a clean seven, eight minutes.
	That's a totally valid take.
	From the perspective of listener-friendly, in my opinion.
	Entirely a valid take.
	I'm merely bloviating.
	So then I think a big question that I'm seeing in both of our chats right now on Facebook and Rumble is whether or not the whole Cuomo thing is a distraction or if it's something that's...
	Because some people are already saying, like pointing out, "Oh yeah, it's a distraction for the nursing home thing." Some of my friends in a group chat I'm in from back in California saying that they think...
	I doubt this, but they believe it was a deal that was made that Cuomo would resign today to distract, so that the media coverage is all obsessed with him and not the infrastructure bill.
	That's such, that's such garbage.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's utter garbage.
	Why would Biden have the press conference?
	I know.
	What kind of a stupid argument is that?
	They're not hiding the infrastructure bill, they're banging a drum about it.
	They're proud about it, they're not hiding it.
	They say it's not to hide the bill, it's so that Fox and conservative media will naturally go for the juicier story, which is Cuomo.
	But what difference does it make to them what Fox covers?
	I mean, really, what are these people thinking? what are these people thinking?
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	Let's go to Matt waiting, waiting patiently in North Carolina.
	Hello, Dr. Vorka.
	How are you?
	Good.
	Very good, sir.
	I'm doing yesterday's show where Mr. G called it perfect.
	Yeah, don't even remind me, Matt.
	That's bad enough I had to remind all of my listeners.
	But thank you very much for putting salt in my wounds.
	OK, well, wait a minute.
	What about Obama with the three drunk drivers leaving the party?
	What about?
	Sorry, Obama and what?
	You remember Obama's party with three drunk drivers busted leavin' and a guy smokin' pot?
	pot?
	Vaguely, vaguely, vaguely, vaguely.
	I think his big party on Martha's Vineyard is the biggest story at the moment.
	Very good, sir.
	Thank you.
	That's it?
	Well, going on and on, but that was pretty good.
	Thank you kindly.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Yes, indeed.
	Rubbing salt in my wounds.
	Let's remind the world of what happened today.
	This is Randy Andy with a strange kind of resigning, but not resigning.
	Cut one.
	The best way I can help now is if I step aside and let government get back to governing.
	And therefore, that's what I'll do, because I work For you.
	And doing the right thing is doing the right thing for you.
	Because as we say, it's not about me.
	It's about we.
	It's not about me.
	Is that why you got an Emmy, right?
	Is that why you wrote, quote unquote, wrote the book about your courage in leadership during the coronavirus crisis in New York?
	Because it's not about you.
	What has it ever, what has it ever not been about Randy Andy Cuomo?
	Guess what?
	You're having to resign because it's always been about you.
	Good riddance.
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	Yes, sir?
	Feels like we spoke yesterday.
	That's right.
	I've just been writing something for The Hill, which began with the words that the very best argument for the resignation of Colombo was that de Blasio... I know, the only argument against his resignation was that de Blasio was asking for it.
	All right, let's start with that.
	Let's start with the breaking news.
	Have you seen the video that I posted?
	It's unbelievable.
	A doctor spoke up at a school district meeting in Ohio and we posted it yesterday.
	It's had already five million views.
	I'll do it.
	I haven't seen it, but I'll click on it as soon as we finish.
	I'll send it to you.
	I'll send it to you.
	And 80,000 views on Rumble now.
	Yep.
	Alright.
	I can email a tweet, right?
	I just... Yeah, I can email it.
	The link, the URL to the tweet, yeah.
	Alrighty.
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	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	It's stunning on one platform alone.
	The video of Dr. Dan Stock at the Mount Vernon school board meeting already has 3.8 million views in one day.
	Another 1.8 million views on Instagram.
	I've pinned it at the top of my Twitter feed.
	You've got to see it.
	We're also going to post right now the link Where we have the 22, the 22 studies that underline his speech with all the statistical data on the misinformation about not only vaccines, breakthrough infections, but also masks.
	If you missed the interview, we opened the show with Dr. Stock.
	We're going to be posting it.
	I think it may already be up on Rumble.
	Watch that as well for the updates.
	Now, we have our regular guest, the author of A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, with many, many titles also under his belt.
	He is Lord Conrad Black, regular guest to America First.
	Lord Black, welcome back!
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	Always a pleasure.
	We have to discuss your latest piece of American greatness, Pelosi's contemptible fraud.
	But first, I understand you're working on a piece that mentions the breaking news of this morning, something that caught me by surprise.
	I thought they wouldn't remove him from the governor's mansion except in handcuffs or a pine box.
	Your reaction to the strange quasi-resignation, because he's not going for 14 days, of the governor of New York?
	Well, I don't blame him for a two-week delay, as I understand that he has no home except the governor's mansion, and I understand that he wouldn't want to move to a hotel, particularly one in the state that he's just retiring as a governor of.
	But look, I think that these complaints of these women obviously have to be looked into, but I have reservations about Trial by denunciation.
	These things don't sound good, and they look better corroborated than some things like that utter nonsense that we've raised against Justice Kavanaugh.
	But I don't like anyone just being driven out on the say-so of another party, particularly parties that have been silent for some time and are just coming out when it's Not particularly difficult and rather a faddish thing to do.
	Now, I want to be clear, I'm not making light of what happened.
	If what is alleged happened, it's outrageous and disgraceful.
	But I want a little process here.
	With that said, I think that the whole problem with this handling of the elderly COVID fatalities is a terribly serious business.
	And I was outraged at the way it was just whitewashed, as it seemed.
	I mean, by all means, in that as in anything else, give him and everyone else a fair trial.
	But just saying there's nothing here to pursue as an investigation struck me as a political cover-up.
	And then as the consolation prize, they put across the less damning questions, terribly serious, but less damning.
	They're not matters of life and death that he's complaining women are talking about.
	And so, I mean, I just don't think it's all that satisfactory.
	With that said, the only argument I can think of against Governor Cuomo resigning is that Mayor de Blasio was demanding That is disturbing.
	But isn't there, just to stay on that second point you made Lord Black, isn't there something distasteful or it leaves a bad taste in the mouth that this is a man who's resigning as you say based upon allegations that haven't been proven in a court of law
	As he has been quite credibly accused of being responsible at least for the negligent death of up to 15,000 senior citizens who were ordered under his policies back to the old age care facilities that couldn't handle them being infected with COVID.
	And disseminating from federal investigators.
	Yes.
	Do you think there are broader ramifications whatever happens to him and the accusations concerning those that died under his watch when he was governor?
	Are there broader political ramifications for his party?
	This is a man who had been touted just a few months ago as a potential presumptive nominee for the presidency.
	Well, I think you've got a couple of elements there.
	written a book about his courage in managing COVID.
	What could be the larger political fallout from this?
	And potentially, if you look at other governors who are in trouble, like Newsom in California.
	Well, I think you've got a couple of elements there.
	I mean, you're absolutely right, of course, that a year ago, Cuomo was being pitched as the most likely early call for, we'll take it a little beyond you, but yeah, a year ago and for a while after that.
	the most likely Democratic candidate for president in 24.
	And obviously that's gone to pieces.
	And the spectacle of a very prominent governor, a prominent political family, his father was a three-term governor in New York, just crumbling so suddenly and so completely from these.
	I mean, Cuomo would sit there like, I don't know, King Henry VIII or something, alone at his desk and hold forth on any subject that had been avoided.
	And the dissemination of false information and the withholding of information he was bound to release to federal authorities.
	that has been a very good time.
	They tried to give him a smooth glide path out of all of that, but since they had to do something, the consolation to the hostile muse was to Given the order of the boot because of his sexual advances.
	And by that I mean, from all accounts, pretty minor sexual offenses.
	There is no attempted rape alleged or anything like that.
	It's just, I mean, irritating and outrageous and stupid and inexcusable things to do, particularly for the holder of a great office like that.
	I absolutely don't want to make light of it, but it's not at all in the same category of potentially terrible offenses.
	As having anything to do with the unnecessary deaths of innocent people.
	We only have a minute left in this segment with Lord Conrad Black.
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	Is it possible, given your historic perspective, having written books on several presidents, that he became suddenly vulnerable as governor because there was no longer the whipping boy of President Trump in the White House?
	I don't know about that, but I think, yes, look, I think that the departure of Trump from the White House has left really the jackals, the media assassins, with a huge amount of ordnance and weaponry.
	In need of a target!
	No big target, so he filled a vacuum in that respect.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And they are hyenas, they are jackals, and they do want a target.
	We are talking to Lord Conrad Black, author of A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, champion of freedom, among others.
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	You want to do a pillow here?
	Yes.
	I truly do think that you're right.
	The insatiable bloodlust of the Jackals means they just, you know, they needed a target.
	And, you know, no more President Trump.
	Now they find somebody else, even if it's on their own side.
	Let me give you this thought.
	This spectacle of the absolute savagery with which the Democratic establishment in New York has, you know, wrenched getting Cuomo by the scruff of the neck and the small of his back and throwing him out of the governor's mansion, should be a warning to these imbeciles in the Biden administration.
	What awaits them if they don't raise their game?
	I mean, this ridiculous man in Mallorca is standing there telling us every day that the southern border is closed when it's been penetrated by at a rate of two million unauthorized people a year.
	I mean, it's a staggering total, 200,000 a month.
	I mean, this is absolute nonsense that can't go on.
	And when the heat When they can't keep the seal on the bottle any longer, and the public really becomes aware of some of these things, and you can't hide from the public the crime rate, the inflation rate, and things like that.
	You can up to a point, but the pouring across the border, because only people near the border really feel it directly at once.
	But when this starts to crack open, which it will, the bloodlust against the authors of these utter acts of incompetence, It is going to be quite something.
	I hope what I'm about to say doesn't happen, but I think we're going to have the fall of Kabul and the total failure of Biden's policy there.
	All he had to do was keep the 3,500 people at Trumpet.
	We're not talking about half a million draftees in a combat zone in Vietnam.
	We're talking about 3,500 People haven't had a fatality there for over a year, unlike every big city in America each weekend.
	And the other thing that I still think now is likely to come soon, and it's about time, is some statement from Durham about what went on in 2016.
	And, you know, when these things start coming in, these post-honeymoon phenomena that remind holders of great offices that it is a difficult job they have and they're expected to do it competently.
	We've just seen a sort of dress rehearsal of what the democratic establishment can do to people who embarrass them.
	A case of the revolution will eat itself.
	Unless they're run by civilized gentlemen like the American American Revolution, which was really expelling foreigners and not socially changing the country that much.
	Revolutions always do.
	They move all the way, you know, to Prairie Isle and the reign of terror, and then they come back with Thermidor.
	But what you're left with is not worth the trouble.
	It is a rare revolution that is peopled by gentlemen, that's for sure.
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	We are back with Lord Conrad Black, our regular guest here on America First, author of the fabulous autobiography, A Matter of Principle.
	Check it out today.
	But first, let's discuss his latest piece at American Greatness, amgreatness.com, a superlative website.
	Pelosi's Contemptible Fraud is the title.
	I'll just read one sentence from it that we can expand upon.
	A moron could deduce that where there are 44 million mailed and dumped ballots floating around, strange things are likely to happen in an election where a flip of just 50,000 votes in three states would have changed the election result.
	Lord Black, That seems like a reasonable statement.
	Why is one not allowed to make it in America in 2021?
	Because it is subject to the desperate attempt, and it can't be otherwise described, of the opponents of the former President Trump.
	to pretend that they had a perfectly pristine and fair and unquestionable election that decisively rejected him, even though his party gained 20 congressional seats on the same night, and that he then completely illegally and unconstitutionally provoked a violent assault on the U.S.
	Capitol.
	And was aiming to disrupt the government in a really almost treasonous fashion.
	And we have a division between the good and the evil that is absolutely clear and exactly conforms to partisan lines.
	The Democrats won the election fair and square.
	No one can question that.
	And the Republicans, the President, tried to stir up an insurrection.
	And any challenge of that has to be suppressed.
	And the reason it has to be suppressed is because any challenges have to be well-founded.
	I mean, the claim, contrary to the line that you read from the piece, is nonsense.
	I mean, if you read Partisanship out of it and just describe in the abstract what happened, No serious person could believe that it was a completely unquestionable election.
	I'm not saying it was rigged.
	No, no, no.
	The phrase you use that I really like, the phrase you use that I like in the piece is that it was tainted.
	It was clearly tainted.
	Well, I think next to 1876, Hayes and Tilden, it's the most questionable election result in the country's history.
	And in that one, at least, there was a commission on a partisan basis and decided things unsatisfactorily.
	And then the candidates themselves, who were distinguished men, a fine governor of New York and a governor of Ohio and a Civil War general, Hayes, they worked it out.
	They made an arrangement.
	Kildon wouldn't contest the election further if Hayes did certain things to end the U.S.
	Army's occupation of the South.
	And being an officer and a gentleman, he did exactly what he promised to do.
	And so at least it was resolved.
	Here we have one side saying it is the big lie, and the other side is saying it was the crime of the century.
	And the two sides, despite the wall-to-wall, locked-arm effort of the U.S.
	national political media and social media to stamp out and silence anyone who questioned the election, despite that, the division in the country is approximately even between those who think it was a stolen election And those who think it was a perfectly accurate and fair election.
	And I think many of those in the second group don't really believe it.
	I mean, look, no one knows better than the Democrats what they did to monkey around with the election result.
	And that famous piece in Time magazine a few months ago, you know, which detailed a lot of the chicanery and scalduggery that went on, very happily and proudly, that it was necessary to get rid of Trump.
	I mean, the fact is, the 900-pound gorilla in the room is the majority of Americans know or suspect that it was a tainted election result.
	Now, many of those who know or suspect it think it was a good thing because they didn't like Trump, but that's another issue.
	But the point is, in a democratic country, small v. democratic country, with genuine respect for freedom of expression, You simply cannot suppress reasonable public discussion of such an important issue.
	But it's not just... That's why everyone's so aroused about it.
	But it's not just a reasonable discussion.
	As you note in your piece, hundreds of people arrested at the Capitol as trespassers have been interrogated for months with all kinds of enticements available to the prosecutors to extort What are the long-term ramifications of this, I have to say, perversion of the tools of justice?
	Well, the long-term ramifications are extremely serious if justice is not ultimately done.
	What are the long-term ramifications of this, I have to say, perversion of the tools of justice?
	Well, the long-term ramifications are extremely serious if justice is not ultimately done.
	And obviously, no part of enacting justice is going to be accomplished by this ludicrous, contemptible little star chamber that Pelosi has put together, where she chooses the Democrats and she chooses the Republicans too.
	And the qualification, the first level hurdle you'd get over to be qualified to sit on this, you know, to vote.
	torture committee and defamation committee is that you have to have already voted to impeach Trump.
	I mean, you have to preserve such a high level of suspense about what kind of a judgment you're going to come up with by being someone who's already said that the president committed crimes and should have been removed from office.
	I mean, decisions that the majority disagreed with and were nonsensical.
	You know, both those impeachment hearings were absolute outrages.
	There was not a scintilla of evidence that Trump did anything wrong.
	But you have to have already voted to convict him in those matters in order to get on this supposedly impartial committee.
	Yeah, a start chamber, a torture chamber.
	Hopefully more and more people will see it for what it truly is, just a political sledgehammer to use against people you politically disagree with and a specific individual who I think for good reason, the increasingly radical Democrats I'm very, very worried we'll run again.
	And that's my former boss, Donald J. Trump.
	Read more about him in our guest's book, A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America.
	Thank you, Lord Black.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First, your calls next.
	And then Congressman Lee Zeldin from New York on the news from the governor's mansion.
	Stay with us, won't you?
	Nicely done.
	Nicely done. - Yeah.
	Thanks, Sebastian.
	You know, I weep for the country, but I think the administration's sinking every week, don't you?
	Look, I do, but it's hard for me to get out of my own prism, I presume.
	But when people see the consequences of the infrastructure bill they signed today, the addition of more onerous regulations, the grift, the graft, Yeah.
	Wasn't that Bill Clinton?
	the consequences on their tax bills at the end of the month and the prices of everything that's going to inflate, hopefully God willing.
	I mean, who was it who said it?
	I mean, it's the economy is stupid and it's pocketbooks, pocketbooks, pocketbooks.
	Yeah.
	Wasn't that Bill Clinton?
	I may be wrong, but I thought it was him.
	Yeah.
	Oh, did you see the incredible photograph from the hospital in Chicago?
	The police officers turning their back on Mayor Lightfoot?
	I did, yeah.
	Isn't she awful?
	I mean, she's almost as bad as de Blasio.
	She needs to go next.
	She needs to go next.
	And I see this cluck in Los Angeles.
	It was the same strike as Lightfoot and de Blasio.
	Just utter hopeless incompetence.
	It's now being sent as ambassador to India, the world's largest democracy.
	I mean, aren't they mad?
	There's a job held by Pat Moynihan and Kenneth Galbraith.
	I mean, serious people.
	But this is not an administration of serious individuals.
	That's the sad truth.
	Yes, that's true.
	Well, anyway.
	Thank you.
	All the best.
	We have to survive another three and a half years.
	Well, we will.
	We will.
	We will do it.
	OK.
	Thanks very much.
	Thank you.
	Bye bye.
	Right.
	Title for that-a-one.
	Title for that-a-one.
	So I want to post those separately because I want to post one on YouTube.
	Two, you can do both.
	Can you do both combined on Rumble?
	Rumble.
	Yeah.
	So for YouTube, let's do segment one and call that Cuomo's Real Um, culpability.
	Real culpability, got it.
	And then for the whole thing, um... What you're not allowed to say about last year.
	Yeah.
	American financing.
	Have you got all the titles?
	Uh, thus far, yes.
	Thus far?
	Nicely put.
	Nice word usage.
	I like, I like whenever I can throw the word suss-ly.
	Wait, more stock.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	I was just going to say, it's too bad.
	Stock can't go on YouTube for obvious reasons, but-- Mm-hmm.
	Ah.
	So then.
	It is pretty funny.
	I was thinking about Cuomo, too.
	Like, it really is true that a lot of people in that family keep trying to be like other family members.
	You know, Fredo is obviously insecure about being compared to his brother, and Cuomo himself obviously wanted to try to succeed his dad, because, you know, his dad only served three terms before he was beaten in 94 for a fourth term.
	Here he was running, thinking, oh, I'm going to get the fourth term my dad didn't get.
	Now I'm just sitting here thinking, at least your daddy finished his third term, Andrew.
	30 seconds.
	Standby.
	American financing.
	Do you have the phones open or no?
	No.
	Copy that. Copy that.
	you you Portions of America First are brought to you in part by Job Creators Network.
	Amazing image.
	I just saw it before the show started.
	The scene was Chicago's Medical Center.
	Saturday, midnight.
	Nearly 30 CPD officers had accompanied the critically injured male officer The family of the male officer in the waiting area on the seventh floor.
	The officer who had survived the attack against himself and 29-year-old officer Ella French, who was murdered.
	The officer's father was there, who was in the ICU.
	The father was a former police officer and gave Laurie Lightfoot The Mayor, his opinion of how she is to blame for his son's crippling situation.
	Lightfoot listened as the retired cop yelled at her.
	Then she tried to move things along by making a general boilerplate speech to those assembled, almost 30 police officers.
	And that's...
	When together, as one, in an almost choreographed act, they all turned their backs on Mayor Lightfoot.
	I'm going to post the photo as soon as we have a moment here on America First.
	Cuomo is not enough.
	Lightfoot has got to go.
	Newsom has got to go.
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	Okay, so much to share with you.
	So many amazing cuts.
	We always run out of time, but here's some good news from AOC.
	Cut seven.
	Play cuts.
	Because I was 40 when I had my son, and it almost didn't happen for me.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, I think it's a concern that's so... that, you know, it's something that I think about a lot, but I think it's also something that especially, like, a lot of young women and millennial women my age think about a lot because
	It just feels, it's always hard, but I think it feels really hard for us as well, whether it's economic pressure, you know, can, just a lot of people feel like, can you even, is it even possible to like afford the family life now that people were able to afford a generation ago?
	Or kind of in my case too, we think about things like climate change.
	So what does that mean?
	She's not going to have babies.
	She's not going to make a family because of the economic pressure she has.
	Oh dear, do you know how much a member of Congress gets?
	More than I did in the White House.
	That's embarrassing!
	I was a Deputy Assistant to the President.
	I thought I got far too much money from the taxpayer.
	I felt bad about it.
	Old AOC before anything else, before travel budgets and all the money she gets for her team.
	This poor lady who can't have a family because of the economic pressure and climate change earns at least $174,000.
	Not too shabby.
	How much money would she have to earn to have a family?
	I'm very curious.
	$174,000 paid for by you is not enough.
	Sorry, apologies.
	Apologies.
	$174,000 paid for by you is not enough.
	What a shame.
	Anyway, I guess there's an upside to that.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Congressman Lee Zeldin reacting next to the news that Governor Cuomo is going.
	Not yet!
	Hang on!
	Not so fast, guys!
	He's leaving, but in 14 days.
	As Mr. G asked, what is he doing in those 14 days?
	Is he shredding furiously?
	Is he got a burn pile of documents?
	Is he, um, I don't know.
	What did the Clintons do?
	Oh yes, they stole all the china and furniture from the White House.
	Is he getting a moving company to the governor's mansion?
	What is it?
	Gracie Mansion?
	Is that the one?
	Or is that the mayor's?
	We'll find out sooner or later.
	Somebody's gonna spill the beans.
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	All right.
	Food for the poor yet?
	Yeah.
	All right, hang on.
	What's that?
	Have we done Food for the Poor yet?
	Nope, that's here.
	Not this.
	Oh.
	It's here?
	And he's on the line, so I'll leave the mic.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	The issue here is what we've been saying for a long time.
	You have a socialist movement that has been demonizing the police, and now you have the brazen attitude of people on the street that are going after the police.
	They're actually making the police the enemy on the street right now.
	And you don't have a single political politician in the city of Chicago that's pushing a movement to crack down on these criminals.
	They're going after the police as well.
	And this is your end result.
	These officers are going doing their job every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
	The End
	The End The End financing The best way I can help now Is if I step aside and let government get back to governing.
	And therefore, that's what I'll do.
	Because I work for you.
	And doing the right thing is doing the right thing for you.
	Because as we say, it's not about me.
	It's about we.
	It's not about him, so I want to know what happens to the M.E.
	Does he give it back?
	And what about all the money he made from that book about his courageous leadership during the coronavirus shutdown?
	Is he going to give it to a charity?
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	That is the man who is exiting his position as the governor of New York, not having a good day, but America and New York is.
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	He is the congressman for the First District of New York, a good friend of the show, combat veteran and a patriot, Congressman Lee Zeldin.
	How are you doing today?
	I am doing a lot better than Andrew Cuomo is, and I hope that you and every single one of your listeners are as well.
	Yeah, we are, except I'm a little bit miffed.
	I'm a tad irritated because my cynical, hard-bitten producer, who has amazing instincts, said yesterday on air, a shocker, he said, when he saw the deal that Cuomo was cutting with them trying to prevent his impeachment, he said, OK, that's it, he's resigning.
	And I didn't believe him, and he had it right.
	Did this decision surprise you from the man who has shown such arrogance in office?
	You know, we actually all got numb to the way this governor operates, and I believed that he should have resigned a long time ago.
	Actually, way before the AG's report.
	We're talking about several months ago.
	We were calling for his resignation.
	For a totally unrelated issue, the fatal nursing home ordering cover-up.
	And the serious allegations that came out, and we were saying on our side of the aisle responsibly, that there should be a process, there should be investigation.
	Let's see what his side of the story is.
	And then the AG's report came out, and I think actually on top of the AG with their conclusions about state and federal crimes being violated, Also, the way Cuomo and his attorneys were talking, they're really making him seem more guilty.
	I mean, Andrew Cuomo is saying that his conduct is okay because he's 63 years old, that he's Italian.
	...saying that there's no... ...go to zeldinfornewyork.com.
	Why?
	Because this man could very possibly be the new governor of New York.
	So talk to us about what this means for you, your campaign, what you say to those who thought there's no way, there's no way Cuomo's never going to leave.
	What is your message to all New Yorkers on this rather rather auspicious day?
	We're going to win, as long as everybody everywhere is all in.
	Every single one of your listeners have an opportunity to help this cause in some way.
	And what we can't operate off of is the mentality, as we're battling for the heart and soul of our state and our country, that this is someone else's fight.
	No, this is all of our fights, and this is bigger than each and every one of us individually.
	This is about the collective, and it's about Our kids and people who aren't even born yet, who are going to face the consequences of these decisions that we're witnessing right now.
	And pendulum swing, we're due for a correction in the state, we're due for a correction in our country.
	And if you care about public safety, if you care about the quality of education for our kids, we're having policies that actually grow jobs.
	There's a clear choice that we face right now.
	But this isn't about a candidate going all in.
	This isn't about a candidate's campaign team going all in.
	It's about all of us doing everything in our power to win.
	All of us.
	What is your... Please, guys, support this man.
	I know him.
	I've campaigned for him when he was re-elected to the first congressional district in New York.
	He loves New York.
	He loves this nation.
	Zeldin4NewYork.com.
	Congressman Zeldin, Lee, if I may, I'm not satisfied.
	He's so creepy, he probably did numerous inappropriately sexual things with people who were his subordinates.
	But I want this guy to be charged with manslaughter.
	Are we ever going to see justice for the 15,000 New Yorkers he sent to their deaths in those old people's homes?
	What we know is a Department of Justice announcement from a couple weeks ago saying that their Civil Rights Division was not going to look into the public nursing home dynamic.
	What we don't know is what the current state, if any, is of an investigation at the DOJ or at the Attorney General's level at the state, or if there are any locals taking action.
	We just don't have information to either confirm That they are pursuing justice and accountability, or they're not, in which case, the answer, unfortunately, is no, there's not going to be justice.
	So we just need more information, but unfortunately, where we do have the information is the Department of Justice sending a letter to a bunch of members of Congress, myself included, saying that they were not going to, the Civil Rights Division was not going to look into The nursing home order and cover-up as it relates to the public nursing home desk.
	Still don't have the answer on the private nursing homes from them.
	I wonder if that decision would have been the same out of the Department of Justice if we were talking about 15,000 residents of a state run by a Republican governor.
	I think I know the answer to that question.
	Thank you so much for making time for us today.
	I know your phone has been blowing up, hundreds of text messages, but he loves our millions of listeners so much he's prepared to get on here when we put the bat signal up.
	God bless you.
	Lee Zeldin.
	Zeldin for NewYork.com.
	What a great day for New York.
	Let's win this.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Yes!
	Do we have stuff from promo, Geoff?
	He is not here at the moment.
	One day he will return.
	He's taking a nap.
	The return of the king.
	His classic Mr. G move, taking a nap.
	Always.
	It's that time of day.
	It's that time of day.
	It's a Tuesday.
	I could use Zelda.
	Um, yeah, put Zelda on, on, uh... YouTube?
	YouTube.
	Yep.
	Um... Cause it.
	I'm having a better day than Cuomo.
	Ha ha ha ha ha.
	Better day than close.
	Logitech.
	Or is it Logitech?
	I think it's Logitech.
	No!
	Logitech is better.
	Sounds Greek.
	One minute.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	You gotta remind me, guys.
	Big post-it note.
	Yes?
	Laptop, mic, Friday.
	Oh, Friday.
	Yeah, okay.
	Also, JCN, and also podcast promotion.
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	Genetics.
	Can you come in with the little Fauci one, Cut 5?
	Cut 5, yes.
	Yeah, wait for the disclaimer.
	And then I might tee up 8 after I've done the read.
	Come in at 5 after the disclaimer.
	Copy that.
	standing by portions of america first are brought to you by food for the poor you know
	It's not comfortable, obviously, for children to wear masks, particularly the younger children.
	But hopefully this will be a temporary thing.
	Oh really?
	Temporary?
	I think, what was it?
	Was it 15 days to flatten the curve?
	When was that?
	Was that two weeks ago?
	Or three weeks ago?
	Or a year and a half ago.
	Fauci, you're such a bloody fraud.
	Nope, no masks for children.
	Don't be a science denier.
	0.05% mortality.
	Why are you putting masks on children?
	You're a fraud.
	I don't know, maybe you're just a coward and a fraud.
	It's time to stop the bureaucrats.
	After a year plus of lockdowns and mandates that have crippled America's economy, the leaders in Washington still haven't gotten the message.
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	There is an alderman in Chicago.
	I think he's a Democrat.
	I don't know.
	His name is Anthony Napolitano.
	Yes, no relation, I think.
	And he's a blunt, blunt, blunt, blunt, blunt man.
	And he had this to say about what's happening in Chicago every single weekend under Lori Lightfoot.
	Cut it.
	Play cut.
	The issue here is what we've been saying for a long time.
	You have a socialist movement that has been demonizing the police, and now you have the brazen attitude of people on the street that are going after the police.
	They're actually making the police the enemy on the street right now.
	And you don't have a single political politician in the city of Chicago that's pushing a movement to crack down on these criminals.
	They're going after the police as well.
	And this is your end result.
	These officers are going and doing their job every day of the week, twice on Sunday, and they're villainized on the street, and they're treated as the enemy.
	And this is wrong.
	This is not how it's supposed to be.
	And the city of Chicago and voters better wake up right now for who they're putting in office, because we are losing this city.
	I think we need to get him on my Newsmax show and here on the radio show because he's right.
	What we're witnessing, the death of Ella French, it's because the police have been made the enemy by socialist politicians and it has to end.
	Wow, where did those two hours go?
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	The End
	The End Usually we introduce you to somebody we don't get a chance to talk to that regularly.
	Today we're doing something even more special than that.
	On One to One, me, Sebastian Gorka.
	It's America First with our good friend, former attorney to President Trump, former constitutional law professor.
	She is, of course, Jenna Ellis.
	Jenna, welcome to One on One.
	This is so exciting.
	I'm so grateful to have even more time to talk about all of the things that we need to discuss.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	We don't have more time to talk about the things we usually discuss.
	We get our millions of listeners and viewers to get to know you better.
	We did this with one of our regulars last week and I learned things as well.
	So let's start there.
	First things first.
	No.
	She's been trending on Twitter.
	We'll get to that.
	But first things first.
	Who is Jenna Ellis, and how did you get to the White House?
	How did you get to the chairmanship of the National Election Integrity Alliance?
	So tell our listeners where you hail from and what your journey has been.
	Yes, well, according to the Wall Street Journal and all of the leftists, I came directly just from practicing an entry-level prosecutor position.
	That's weird.
	That's so weird.
	Nothing happened in between.
	And then suddenly just popped up as an attorney for the president.
	That's weird.
	Which is laughable, right?
	That's so weird.
	And if that were true, I would be the greatest, like, jump in my career in the history of practice.
	You'd be teaching that.
	How you go from that to there.
	And if I was a Democrat at...
	Oh, you'd be lauded.
	This would be, like, amazing, right?
	So it's hilarious that the left doesn't actually see reality.
	Well, let's ignore the left for a second.
	So what's the real story?
	So the truth, of course, is that I am an attorney from Colorado and started in prosecution transition to criminal defense when I saw all of the unethical political stuff that happens, unfortunately, in even local politics.
	And so in being a defense attorney, I've done a ton of trials, been in litigation routinely.
	It was actually a really amazing ministry, frankly.
	So I am a very sincere Christian, grew up, was homeschooled K through 12.
	Now that explains everything, Steve.
	See, I'm learning stuff already.
	She was homeschooled.
	Now we get it.
	Continue.
	And I loved it.
	We had so much fun.
	My parents are amazing.
	Legal background?
	Parents?
	So no, I'm the first attorney out of even my extended family, but my dad is literally a rocket scientist, so he has all of the really super smarts in the family.
	That's the first real one I've heard of.
	I've mentioned it before, but I've never heard of rocket scientists until I met Jenna.
	Yeah, he has the t-shirt that we gave him that says, actually I am a rocket scientist.
	So yeah, my dad is great.
	But homeschooling actually allows for you to grow up with not just with the peer pressure and all of that stuff that you get and all of the, you know, critical race theory and crazy things in the education world today, but actually focusing on what you'd like to do in your life and ministry.
	For me, I discovered my love of law when I was 14 because I actually had the opportunity to go and explore and discover other things besides just schoolwork.
	I knew from the age of 14 that I wanted to be a lawyer.
	So how?
	Did you meet the lawyer?
	Did you view something in a courtroom?
	What was the impetus?
	Yeah, so there's a great program called Teen Pact Leadership Schools.
	It's like teens making an impact.
	And the whole purpose, specifically geared toward Christian students, is to teach about civics.
	So they go to, I think they're in almost all 50 states now.
	But they bring students for a week to their state capitol and teach them all about the legislative branch.
	And then from there you can go and do other events.
	I became, through that week, very interested in doing the judicial track.
	And so I went to this one-week program where we did a whole moot court situation and we had briefs that we had to write.
	We had to basically pretend like we were appellate attorneys.
	And in thinking about and looking at what attorneys actually do and how you can advocate for the principles of truth, I loved it.
	And after that one week, I came home and said, hey mom and dad, I want to be a lawyer.
	I never intended to do what I'm doing now, but God definitely clearly showed me my path to being a lawyer when I was very young, which tells a lot of people out there, if you are a parent of a high school student, God can show you your calling at a very, very young God can show you your calling at a very, very young I'm really grateful that I had parents who always championed what I knew God had for me.
	And so as I moved through my career, I then, through teaching, through being able to practice in criminal defense, I also wrote a book on the Constitution, and it's called The Legal Basis for a Moral Constitution, A Guide for Christians to Understand America's Constitutional Crisis.
	And law school doesn't teach you the foundational principles that we often talk about on the show.
	Which is outrageous.
	They teach you that constitutional law means whatever the Supreme Court says that the law means.
	And so as a Christian, I wanted to have a better argument, a legal argument, to be able to advocate for our founding principles besides just my faith.
	Because obviously The court will say, well, that's just your personal faith.
	We don't care.
	And leftists can say, well, I'm not a Christian.
	Shut up about your religion.
	So I wanted to have a legal argument.
	So this book is my legal argument.
	I started teaching constitutional law through that, was able to get media appearances.
	And one day I was a guest on a show called America First.
	That's a great name for a show.
	Isn't it, though?
	And you might have heard of the host, Sebastian Gorka.
	This is that guy with the funny accent.
	Yes, that I love to imitate.
	Heard of him.
	Heard of him.
	When I have now been honored to be the guest host on that show.
	And so I was a guest there, and of course, you know, the President listens into this show and others.
	And so one day, just out of the blue, I get a call from a 202 number.
	And it's, hi, Ms. Ellis.
	This is the White House.
	The president's reaching out to you.
	Would you please give us a call back?
	Guys, little warning here, okay?
	You don't have to pick up calls you don't recognize the number from.
	But if it's 202, you might want to.
	But see, I'm a 303 girl from Colorado.
	So I thought it was just a spam call.
	And it was like a Sunday afternoon.
	Which is when he calls people he likes.
	And so I pick someone and I'm thinking, what?
	This totally is not happening to me.
	So I call back and I say, hi, I'm not sure that this was intended for me, but I got this voicemail.
	And oh, yeah, we'll put you right through.
	And President Trump gets up and goes, Jenna, how's it going?
	You have this great title in media, constitutional law attorney.
	I love it.
	And your explanations of the Constitution are just so great and profound.
	And I have some questions for you.
	I'd love to just talk with you.
	And so we spent over an hour on the phone.
	On that first call?
	On that first phone call.
	And I'm sitting here thinking, this is the only chance I'll ever get to talk to the President of the United States.
	I'm just going to tell him my honest opinions to all of the questions that he asked.
	So I told him that his lawyers were risk averse, that the swamp is terrible.
	When is this about?
	This is in around September of 2019.
	So right before, as people were gearing up for the first impeachment.
	So I was at the time on his campaign's advisory board, so I was doing media hits as a constitutional law subject matter expert, also obviously as an attorney, and on behalf of the campaign even though it was in my private capacity.
	So he had seen me advocate for him and his campaign at that point.
	But yeah, so we spent an hour on the phone and he ended with saying, you know, so when are you in D.C.?
	Come see me.
	And I was like, I will be there anytime you ask.
	So probably about a week or so later, I walked into the Oval Office and he gets up from behind this amazing resolute desk that I was so privileged to see in person.
	And he comes around and shakes my hand and says, Jenna, so great to meet you.
	You're such a brilliant lawyer and you work for me now.
	And I said, okay, and I've been in D.C.
	ever since, and that's how he does things.
	That's exactly what I experienced.
	And he's an amazing, amazing person that I was, and president, that I was so privileged to work for, advise, advocate for, and someone I'm still very proud to call my friend.
	And so I am, you know, just an ordinary girl who loves the Constitution, loves the law, has advocated in the realm of constitutional law, has taught constitutional law, has been in a lot of litigation, tons of trials, and now has been able to have the experience of working for a sitting president of the United States.
	And I'll continue to advocate for conservatism, truth, and President Trump.
	She says she's ordinary.
	There's nothing ordinary about this lady.
	She's the author of The Legal Basis for a More Constitutional Presidential Attorney.
	She's also, we'll talk about this, let's put this in her chyron next, Eric.
	She is the chair of the Election Integrity Alliance.
	That story is such a great story.
	It's almost exactly the same as my experience back in, oh my gosh, July?
	June, July of 2015, when I get a phone call out of the blue.
	He's not president yet.
	He's just candidate Mr. Trump.
	And I get asked to go to Trump Tower in New York by somebody called Corey Lewandowski.
	I didn't know who he was.
	And I said, OK.
	And we have a conversation about, you name it, from the Civil War to nuclear weapons.
	Halfway through the conversation, President Trump stops it dead.
	There's only three of us in the room.
	Meet Corey.
	The future president.
	And he stops talking at me, turns to Corey and says, I like this guy.
	Let's hire him.
	And that's how it works.
	Sign this NDA and we're off to the races and doing some stuff for a man who will become the 45th president of the United States.
	And the rest is history.
	So much more to discuss.
	I've got a long list of things I want to discuss with her.
	In the meantime, make sure you're following this lady, Jenna Ellis ESQ, on social media platforms.
	It's Jenna Ellis Esquire.
	Follow her today.
	This is One on One with me, Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to the President of the United States.
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	Jenna, let's talk about the sad news of the state of the legal profession in America.
	Yes.
	So we have some good news.
	Well, it seemed like good news, let me preface it like that, that thanks to Mitch McConnell, the Federalist Society, and a lot of eager beavers, the four years of the Trump administration saw close to 300 federal judges nominated and confirmed.
	And then, of course, three Associate Supreme Court Justices nominated and confirmed.
	This was deemed by many to be the most important long-term I have to say, as a non-lawyer, I studied a little bit of international law in my post-grad studies.
	I am woefully disappointed with the results of all of that, given the election last year, the amount of cowardice, given the Supreme Court's inability to even hear the Texas case.
	So, will you give us your insider's opinion of the state of the legal profession and also the importance of courage when practicing law?
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, the Federalist Society just needs to retire, in my opinion.
	What happened?
	So, you know, they are so swampy for lack of a more Just on the nose term.
	And I say that, you know, I'm an ordinary person because like you, Seb, you and I, I contrast that to the elitists, right?
	To the Swamp People.
	We are people who love America and who are in our respective professions to actually make a difference and to uphold the principles of America of truth, of God and country, of things that used to just be ingrained in our society.
	And unfortunately, the swamp and the GOP and the elitists that are here, they don't see that same distinction.
	They don't have anything other than power that they're after and money.
	They like being part of the establishment.
	Absolutely they do.
	And the GOP is part of that.
	And Trump changed all of that.
	The perspective here is that, you know, Trump is not a lawyer.
	And so coming in, like, if I became president, I would have to have advisors in certain areas that I'm not familiar with.
	And so he relied on, reasonably and totally appropriately, on the Federalist Society to make those recommendations, because that's who he was told had the best judicial input.
	And he had input from a lot of my good friends.
	But the problem with that And what we're seeing in the disappointment on the court in the GOP establishment is that they don't want to elect candidates or put people on the bench who will be radically so dedicated to the U.S. Constitution over anything else.
	They don't want principled people.
	They want political operatives.
	They don't want to rock the boat.
	Exactly.
	And that was exactly what President Trump did want to do.
	And so in the state of the legal profession, and if you look at what happened to my colleague Rudy Giuliani in New York, it is so absurd to think that just because an attorney is advocating for their client or has an opinion on politics, like me over the last weekend saying that Joe Biden it is so absurd to think that just because an attorney is advocating for their client or has an opinion There is a mob on Twitter now calling literally for my disbarment to say I shouldn't be able to practice law.
	Just because I have political viewpoints that are public.
	This is the state of America that the GOP is tacitly endorsing because they refuse to actually be radical patriots and stand up for principled American jurisprudence.
	We can fight the enemy, the opposition party, easily.
	There are people on the bench and in office who will actually be principled rather than just party operatives.
	And that's what President Trump ran into in his administration.
	We can fight the enemy, the opposition party, easily.
	That's the obvious fight.
	But the fight that was going on was internal.
	And it was, and you saw this as well, with advisors, with the RNC, with the GOP.
	I mean, I had people, when he would call me and ask my opinion on a legal matter, I would give him my best advice based on the law and the Constitution.
	If he asked for my opinion beyond that, then I'm happy to give it to him as an advisor.
	But I would tell him, here are your options constitutionally.
	And inevitably, about 10 minutes after we hand up the phone, I would always get a phone call from one of his other lawyers, White House counsel, you know, somebody else calling, literally yelling at me, saying, why are you telling him he can do X?
	And I'm like, because he can.
	And you and I would yell back and say, are you literally going to tell me he doesn't have that option?
	Well, we told him, you know, if you're if you're saying he has option ABC, we only told him A.
	And I said, yeah, because that's the option you want him to pick.
	That's the state of legal practice right now is not being an advocate and having a a substantive interest in doing your job.
	It's not being fighters.
	No, and it's also being totally unethical.
	Because as a lawyer, I have an obligation and a responsibility to my client.
	Right.
	And to tell them all the options.
	Not to myself.
	Yes.
	And to answer his question to the best of my ability.
	But his own lawyers weren't doing that.
	They were political operatives.
	And that is the only reason that Trump didn't get even more done was because when we had the majority, we, the Republicans, the so-called conservatives, conservatives had the majority in the House and the Senate for the first two years of President Trump's administration.
	They blocked him every step of the way.
	You don't think we could have passed.
	So much judicial reform, pro-life measures, immigration reform, all of this stuff.
	But no, they wanted to block him from actually creating change in Washington because they are the problem.
	The RNC is DNC lite.
	And that's the unfortunate truth about it.
	And so when you look at the Federalist Society, bring this back to your original question, when you look at the Federalist Society and the judges that have been so weak-bellied And the justices of the Supreme Court, like Roberts, who of course wasn't a Trump appointee but he was the worst thing that President Bush ever did, when he has this view that you can't be political and therefore we're not going to take up a controversial case that by the way the Constitution mandates us to.
	Not hearing the Texas case with, what, 17 other states?
	look political, you are becoming political.
	Yes.
	Where is your obligation to your office?
	Not hearing the Texas case with, what, 17 other states?
	Yes.
	Is a political decision.
	It's absolutely political, and it is unconstitutional.
	And by the way, those justices, the seven of them that said no, because only Thomas and Alito voted to hear it because they understood their obligation, all seven of the others should be impeached and removed for that.
	I have to ask you, if it weren't up to the Federalist Society, would we be able to find enough pugilistic lawyers to become good judges?
	Are they out there?
	I think so.
	And you know who they are?
	They're people like you and me that are the ordinary lawyers who understand the Constitution.
	They don't have, you know, the big names.
	They're not on the radar of Washington, D.C.
	So go to Wyoming, go to Dakota, find good lawyers.
	Yeah!
	Like, find the people like the The Van Dyke, I think it's Michael Van Dyke, who was one of the attorneys during the second impeachment, who was a regular trial lawyer, who was brilliant and who actually understood his obligation.
	He didn't care about the media interviews.
	He didn't care about anything.
	He just cared about justice for his client and actually advocating for the principles of the Constitution.
	People like him need to be on the bench.
	So I have to ask you, why is Jenna Ellis trending on Twitter all weekend?
	What's going on?
	Well, because I made the audacious claim that Joe Biden should be impeached for what?
	Going against the Constitution.
	And in several respects, his administration, with the CDC moratorium, and Twitter is trying to say it's only over the border crisis, that's only one issue, that when he is not fulfilling his oath of office and he is not administering the law of immigration, which, by the way, he can't set, that's up to Congress, and he refuses to close the border, he refuses to protect The citizens of this nation, yes, that's unconstitutional.
	Yes, he can be impeached for that.
	But also, the CDC moratorium on evictions, that was decided by the Supreme Court to be unconstitutional.
	Joe Biden even admitted to a reporter that he knows it's probably illegal, and he said, but we're going to do it anyway, and hope that they get a month or two because judges are slow.
	This is someone who is purposefully not even in good faith.
	There are there are things that presidents and an executive branch officials do all the time that can be challenged in court, can be ruled as unconstitutional, but at least they did it in a good faith basis.
	And that's what the judicial branch is for.
	But for Joe Biden to say and admit he knows that it's unconstitutional and he's doing it anyway, that is a violation of his oath of office.
	And if that is not actually treason or other high crimes and misdemeanors to say I am intentionally violating the supreme law of the land, then I don't know what is.
	So let's drill down on this.
	You're not the first person to say this.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene called on my radio show for the impeachment.
	I think she was the first person to call for the impeachment of Joe Biden.
	I have this Massive bumper sticker.
	There's no vehicle with a bumper big enough to have this bumper sticker she gave me.
	Eric, can you show everybody the Impeach Biden bumper sticker?
	Thank you.
	So let's walk through this.
	You can't impeach a president unless you have a majority in the House and unless you have a supermajority in the Senate to actually convict him.
	So what is the utility?
	And I'm not against it, because a lot of things have to come out.
	What is the utility of even Floating the idea, if you don't have the numbers, is this prepping the battlefield for a success in the midterms?
	Absolutely.
	And it's also revealing who is willing to stand up for truth in the Constitution from the GOP, because anyone who's not willing to sign on to articles of impeachment from the GOP is outing themselves as a rhino, completely.
	And so I want to be clear, this is not just a tit-for-tat situation where, oh, we just want to impeach Biden.
	Because Trump was impeached on a false basis.
	No, I have been an advocate for the Constitution, for the rule of law, and if we are conservatives and conserving our rule of law, then when our chief executive violates the U.S.
	Constitution, violates his oath of office, It is a duty and obligation of Congress to hold him accountable.
	That's what the impeachment clause is for.
	It shouldn't be political.
	So at this point, I think that the voters and the conservative base are so tired of the weak, spineless, rhino Republicans that they want to see, okay, where do you stand?
	The best thing that President Trump does is that you can't ride the fence with President Trump.
	He reveals where do people actually stand.
	And so if articles of impeachment, even in the minority, were filed now, we would see a clear indication of where the field stands and also, I think, give people hope for 2022 that when the conservatives and some, you know, Republicans, I don't like to use this term simultaneously, when we win back the majority in 2022, then we can actually file that knowing we'll have the majority votes.
	All right, let's talk about the biggest issue that he could be theoretically impeached for.
	Let's talk about the election last year, whether there is any way to tie the irregularities, the problems, the unfolded mail-in ballots, the lack of data logs for the chain of custody.
	Where does all this stand?
	Do you have hope that there will be anything coming out of the numerous audits occurring across America?
	I hope that the thing that comes out of the audits is that the legislatures actually pass resolutions that recognize and say as a statement from the legislature that they were falsely certified, that they were not certified according to the laws of their state.
	Because they didn't do their job.
	Because they didn't do their job.
	The state houses.
	The states, yes.
	And the only reason right now that Donald Trump is not in office is because of the weak Republican state legislators.
	And the argument that I made to them from the constitutional standpoint was that when your elections are run so manifestly, obviously, and just completely disastrously against the laws of your own state, it's your obligation to reclaim your delegates and send a slate According to whomever the state legislature picks.
	That's what our system is all about.
	And they all failed to do that because they wanted judicial cover, and of course the judiciary didn't want to be political.
	And so everybody panicked.
	Everybody was a coward.
	And if our system was functioning properly, and we actually had statesmen in office, Then they would have done the right thing, the constitutional thing.
	They would have done their duty with courage.
	We talked about the importance of courage regardless of the political backlash.
	I don't care what people call me on Twitter.
	I don't care if people are calling for me to get disbarred.
	Whatever.
	I don't care.
	I care about my principles.
	I care about advocating for the Constitution.
	I care about standing up for truth.
	And if a state legislator can't even do that after all of these audits, then those states need to put different people in office who will have the courage to stand up.
	So that's what I hope comes out of this because then we can move forward with a potential remedy.
	And that's up to us.
	Jenna, we've talked about the amazing work.
	We haven't talked enough about the amazing work you have done.
	Rudy Giuliani, Joe DiGenova, Victoria Tunsing, Boris Epstein, the people on the ground.
	But you mentioned Rudy, and I want to do this as much as possible.
	Guys, They're coming after him first.
	They want to take him down.
	America's Mayor.
	Please support him.
	There is a GoFundMe page.
	It's the Rudy Giuliani Freedom Fund.
	Go there.
	Donate whatever you can to support this man because the left wants to destroy the former mayor of New York.
	That's RudyGiulianiFreedomFund.com.
	Okay.
	Here's the bad news.
	You are battling, and I've witnessed it, you are battling some people around the president who do not have his best interests at heart and who aren't patriots and who are cowards.
	What can we do about that?
	Well, that ultimately comes down to what will Trump do about it.
	And I think that his base and all of the people who love and support him, who love and support this country, need to continually call out the RNC, call out these people, call out these individuals.
	You've called for Ronald McDaniel to resign.
	Absolutely.
	And Justin Reimer, who is the chief counsel who did not support election integrity, was in fact trying to undermine everything we were working on.
	on behalf of the president while the RNC was telling all of their donors that they were fighting for him.
	So it was completely fraudulent.
	And this is the RNC.
	All they care about is their own money and their own power.
	And they've even said that they raise more when a Democrat is in office anyway.
	So let's just let this go.
	This is Reimer himself who emailed that, who said, we make more money when our guy loses than...
	This is the person Rona McDaniel said she would fire last November.
	Never did.
	He's still there.
	And now she's denying it.
	She's denying she ever made that promise or those emails exist.
	And she did not.
	I literally texted her the email that he says, you know, this is what they're doing is a joke.
	The statement, that was a statement that was made.
	to the RNC about the DNC fundraising war.
	Just to clarify, that wasn't in an email that I've seen, but I was told by a source, a very credible source in the RNC.
	And so the emails that we do have show that he was completely undermining us.
	And he's even admitted that.
	And he's admitted that subsequently.
	But Ronna is completely lying about it because she knew.
	And this is where the RNC does not have the interests of conservatism, the interests of Donald Trump in mind.
	And I don't think, and I have told the president this, we have told the president this, that he does not need the RNC.
	No.
	Because the people who love and support him, because we love and support the country, the Constitution, America First principles, we are going to champion conservatism regardless of what the RNC does.
	They need us much more.
	Well, look, this is another version of what you're saying, but when I was in the White House and after I left the White House, I said repeatedly, and I still hold it to be true, that Donald Trump won despite the GOP and not thanks to the GOP and nothing's changed.
	Oh, 100%.
	And so what can we do about it?
	We can stop donating to the RNC.
	We can call for Ronna and Justin's resignation.
	We can support candidates that are genuine conservatives.
	Like, look at the Ohio primary for Senate right now.
	You have an RNC-supported candidate that's literally paying people to be social media influencers that aren't disclosing that, has a lot of support from the RNC, but used to be, and still is, a Never Trumper.
	J.D.
	Vance, right?
	He even said in an interview... Oh, I like J.D.
	Vance.
	J.D.
	Vance has turned around and he's admitted his mistakes.
	Although he said in an interview just a month ago, he said, well, I guess I'm going to have to get on board.
	I'm paraphrasing a little bit.
	But you can go and read the interview for yourself.
	He said, you know, I guess supporting Trump is what I have to do in order to win this election.
	I'd like to see that because as far as I'm concerned, he's genuine.
	Well, and I hope so.
	I hope so.
	But he was, and again, I have nothing against people who initially did not support him.
	I was one of them.
	I supported Ted Cruz until I understood what President Trump was all about.
	I totally changed.
	I was never a never-Trumper, right?
	So absolutely people can change.
	I've tweeted about JD Vance positively saying, hey, same thing, right?
	I believe him.
	That he has changed, but the issue is that he has a lot of money and influencers from the RNC because there are other candidates like Josh Mandel, for example, that the RNC doesn't like because he's too much of a Christian conservative quote-unquote radical, right?
	And so they are never going to support those types of candidates who actually want to go in having no ties to the swamp.
	So the best thing we can do as much as we You know, may like JD Vance or not, we need to support the candidates that are not beholden to the RNC.
	Okay, well I wouldn't say J.D.
	Vance is beholden to the R.N.C.
	because he's not a swamp creature.
	Some people in the R.N.C.
	may like him, but the fact is he's a very successful author, former Marine, and a guy who understands America first, and I've had long discussions with him on my show and otherwise.
	I'd love to see him come out, and actually I asked on Twitter for him to comment on the FEC report that he has influencers that were paid that did not disclose.
	He won't say anything about it.
	He won't say anything about his recent comment about a month ago.
	So that concerns me.
	And I think he's a great candidate on other things, but that concerns me.
	And when people are getting money, the reason that President Trump had no ties to anyone in Washington is because he refused to take money from those people.
	He funded his own campaign.
	He had other donors.
	And so what I'm saying is this is an example of someone who may get to Washington, may, and have allegiances to the people who helped him get there.
	And so we need to support candidates outside the RNC so that when they get to Washington they work for us, not the RNC.
	Alright, send me that stuff, I'll check it out and then I'll ask J.D.
	on air.
	You are a woman of faith.
	You've always made that apparent in your public statements, in your social media stans.
	I have to ask you this, given your constitutional law credentials, do we have a chance of overturning Roe v. Wade?
	How's it looking?
	Absolutely we do, and I think that the Mississippi case that has actually been accepted, and it was sitting on the court's docket for a really long time, which is interesting.
	And so the fact that the justices are now choosing to take this up with a very broad, open-ended, certified question to the court, it's just whether pre-viability abortions are unconstitutional.
	And that gives them a lot of room to rule and significantly undercut and undermine Roe versus Wade and Planned Parenthood versus Casey, which is Roe's progeny.
	And the easiest way for them to do this, very simply, is to say, listen, this is not an issue that is given to the federal government to decide.
	It is a state-level issue.
	And if they just ruled on the basis of federalism purely, which they've done in recent history on other issues, then it would go back to the states.
	And 41 states right now have basically trigger laws that if something like that happened, then immediately their law would prevent Yeah.
	many abortions, not entirely all abortions, which we need to get to that point.
	We need to make abortions unthinkable, not just illegal, just because they're unconstitutional, but because it is the intentional.
	It's a medical intervention intentionally designed to kill an unborn child.
	That's what an abortion is.
	And so I think the Supreme Court absolutely has a constitutional out here.
	And I'm hoping that they will not just take the easy out, that they will actually completely gut Roe and say that the government has a compelling interest in protecting life.
	However, they have an out in federalism that would still accomplish 98% of the same purposes.
	So we'll see how that goes.
	Given the lack of courage of the Supreme Court last year when it came to the Texas case on the election, do you think they have the courage to make a significant decision on Roe v. Wade?
	That is a great question, and we'll see.
	I'm very interested.
	I mean, the good thing is that we don't need Roberts for a 5-4 decision.
	We do have individuals in Kavanaugh and in Gorsuch that have been very strong on other issues, but they've been really weak on other ones.
	So I'm hopeful, but we need to pray.
	We absolutely have to pray that the Supreme Court would find their spine and they would do the right constitutionally morally appropriate thing you're we're talking to jenna ellis follow her right now jenna ellis esq on all platforms also just the truth podcast also my colleague at newsmax you read my mind jenna in In response to my question on Roe v. Wade, you finished by saying we need to pray.
	We need to pray that we have or that the Supreme Court has the courage to deal with this and to hear it.
	What is the role of faith In all of the issues we've discussed, what is the role of faith in the current political situation, the divide we find America in?
	What is the role of faith in the workings of law in this, the greatest experiment in democracy we've ever seen?
	It's foundational.
	It's inextricably intertwined with conservatism, with government, with everything we're doing.
	There is no separation of church and state in the context and the sense that the left would have you buy into that.
	All they meant is that there are different roles.
	Pastors and priests are not government officials, nor are government officials the head of the church.
	They are separate spheres of authority, just like the family and parental rights are very different than government officials or pastors.
	But faith and understanding the principles of the Word of God that show us truth, This is the only way to have genuine freedom and liberty.
	True liberty and justice for all cannot be accomplished without recognizing, as our founders did, that there is self-evident truth that our rights come from God, our Creator, not our government.
	And the sole purpose of government is to preserve and protect those rights.
	If our government understood Yeah.
	our charter of our Declaration of Independence and understood the only legitimate and proper role of government in the civil society, we would see the abolishment of so many perversions of our civil society.
	The only way, for example, that we get rid of racism in our laws is to understand that there is only one race.
	Human beings are all equal, made in the image of God with inherent dignity and worth.
	It is only the left that tries to classify people and say, you are guilty just on the basis of your skin tone.
	There is systemic racism.
	We want to prop up...
	Equality means there has to be one equal outcome.
	None of that is in accordance with reality or with the principles of self-evident truth.
	And so the role of faith is absolutely central to having a comprehensive view of what it means to be a conservative.
	If you are a conservative only meaning that you buy into capitalism but you are pro-choice and you are, you know, well I'm for this but I'm not for that and you don't have a comprehensive foundational Principled basis, then your arguments will break down.
	You can't have a meaningful, principled argument for capitalism without undercutting yourself if it's a government based only on consent and the government's only obligation is to arbitrate contract disputes.
	Because then what do you do with all of the moral questions of human sexuality?
	What do you do with drugs?
	What do you do with all of these other things that civil society must touch and concern?
	You don't then have true meaningful justice.
	So we have to get back to our principles of faith.
	Pastors have to be teaching from the pulpits these principles of truth.
	They can't shy away.
	I mean, who cares about your tax exemption status?
	The IRS has never actually come after anyone based on that, even if they did.
	Do you care more about that or fulfilling your obligation to teach truth?
	I don't care if I get fired, censored, anything else.
	I will stand up for truth and I will continue speaking truth because I have courage and I know that my only sole audience Is Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior?
	And everyone needs to understand that if you want to make a difference in this country, you have to be bold for truth regardless of the consequences.
	It's a great way to think about it.
	Your only audience that matters is your Lord and Saviour.
	Last question.
	Last time we met with President Trump, you heard me give my advice to him with regards to the last election and the putative results of any audits.
	I said he has to jettison this concept of reinstatement and he has to use the results as part of his platform for running in 2024 and I am convinced of the fact he will run in 2024.
	What is Janet Ellis's, that was a couple of months ago, what is your considered opinion of the best way to proceed When it comes to legal questions concerning last November, what is the tack President Trump should follow?
	Well, I think he needs to come out very clearly and state that he will follow constitutional options only.
	There are a lot of ideas out there, a lot of things that the Constitution simply doesn't provide for.
	And as a conservative, as someone who has always stayed within the margins of the Constitution, that is very important.
	And with that, it is always important to get to the truth.
	And so supporting these audits are fantastic, supporting resolutions.
	to decertify, to say no, those certifications were not accurate to get to Congress.
	Once that happens, then we can have a conversation about what the remedy should be.
	But reinstatement, as some have suggested, is not a constitutionally viable option.
	And when there are some who are suggesting that, it takes away from the genuine solutions for election integrity that we can actually provide for.
	And that was part of the problem in the post-November stuff, where there were some people who had such outlandish ideas.
	And still do.
	And still do.
	That then it took – the media could be so easily distracted and say, look at this.
	Look how absurd this is and completely ignore the genuine opportunity that we do have.
	So I would agree with you that I think that President Trump would be best served focusing on what he can accomplish, focusing, yes, on election justice for November – And that starts with getting to the truth and showing all of this through the audits, showing this even in further litigation, but also focusing his efforts on 2024 and saying, and I think that he will run as well.
	I think that he's going to wait to announce that a little bit more and probably after he sees how 2022 goes.
	But we have to remain grounded in the principles of the Constitution, in rational reality, and preserving our constitutional republic because just because the Democrats cheated and they ignore the Constitution, that does not give us license to try to circumvent the Constitution or tear it down to say, well, the Democrats tore it down anyway.
	And that's not what President Trump is saying, but that's what some of his supporters are saying.
	And I also want to, really quick, this is the quote from J.D.
	Vance.
	He said in an interview with Time Magazine just about a month ago, I'm not just a flip-flopper, I'm a flip-flopper on Trump, dot, dot, dot.
	If I actually care about these people and the things I say I care about, I need to just suck it up and support him.
	That, to me, does not sound like someone who's actually changed his mind.
	That sounds like someone who's saying, I'm going to suck it up and support him even though I still hate him.
	I'd say one thing.
	I'd say one thing about that.
	And I will read that quote back to JD.
	I wouldn't trust anything that Time publishes.
	Ever.
	They're scum.
	But if that's his quote.
	No, no, no.
	I know that.
	So.
	I know that.
	And I will take it to him.
	Yes.
	But Time, I couldn't care less what Time writes.
	Oh, 100%.
	It's like Washington Post, CNN.
	Irrelevant.
	I don't care about that.
	What I care about is the fact that he said those words.
	If he did.
	And I would like to know what he meant by that.
	Because just sucking it up.
	And he has not publicly come out and said, hey, Time Magazine was wrong.
	That's not what I said.
	It's in an interview.
	So that to me is problematic.
	Send that to me.
	And I sent that to you.
	Thank you, Jenna Ellis.
	Went far too quickly.
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