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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Senator Rand Paul calls for lockdown resistance

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	Thank you.
	Is it time to start, Shad?
	Is it time?
	Are we live?
	Is this radio?
	Across the nation?
	Welcome, dear friends!
	It's America First with me, Sebastian Gorka.
	Whatever you're doing, wherever you are, just stop for three hours because you won't regret it.
	What is this thing now with conservatives in Hungary?
	Really?
	Really?
	You know nothing about it for the last 50 years and now you're in love with it because Tucker's broadcasting from there?
	It's a little bit more complicated as somebody who spent 15 years in post-communist Hungary, whose parents escaped communist Hungary.
	Hmm.
	Shall I dish some dirt?
	Hmm.
	I think that's a tease.
	Yes, we shall.
	We shall discuss it.
	But first things first.
	There's a word that had a certain cachet For four years.
	And it was resistance.
	Do you remember that?
	The left reminded us that amongst one of the greatest things a patriot can do is to resist illegitimate administrations.
	Even those that were elected by 64 million Americans.
	Especially when they are elected in the face of one of the most corrupt politicians in American history.
	Called Hillary Rodham Clinton.
	They put on funny hats.
	They had marches.
	They spoke of blowing up the White House.
	Yes, pop stars who said they have dreamt many times of blowing up the White House.
	They had actors asking the question, when was the last time an actor assassinated a president?
	And people chuckled.
	People laughed about it.
	And then, as they told us, that there is no such thing as the Deep State.
	It is a figment of a febrile conservative imagination.
	You must wear a red MAGA hat to believe that there is such a thing as an embedded class of bureaucrats trying to undermine the will of the American people and their choice for a commander-in-chief.
	As they were writing op-ed pieces under the pen name of Anonymous, as they were Giving evidence in uniform on Capitol Hill about the disturbing phone conversations which they hadn't heard, by the way.
	Yes, Colonel Don't-Call-Me-Sasha Vindman wasn't a whistleblower because you can't be a whistleblower based upon something somebody else told you.
	That's called hearsay in a court of law.
	But he was so disturbed.
	Do you remember when that pudgy little O5 in his blues actually testified?
	Um, yes.
	I was disturbed by the contents of a presidential phone call as it was told to me.
	Not as he heard it.
	As it was told to me, and I saw it as my duty to protect the, quote, interagency consensus from the president.
	Well, that's strange, Mr. Vindman!
	Because when I, as an American citizen, who by the way, it's so weird, I've lived for 50, how did that happen?
	50 years, and no one has ever offered me the position of Minister of Defence in any other country!
	I mean, I've been born in England, I've lived in Hungary, I've actually spent a wonderful semester in Rome, The Eternal City.
	I've worked in Germany for four years for the Defense Department of America, albeit I'm sorry it wasn't the German government.
	And now I live in America as an American citizen.
	Not one of those countries, not the UK, not Hungary, not Germany, not Italy, and not even America.
	I'm sad.
	I mean, I know I can't be president constitutionally, but I could be the Secretary of Defense.
	But not one of those countries offered me the option of being the head of their defense sector.
	Unlike Colonel Bindman.
	If you don't believe me, guys, yeah, look it up.
	A man serving in the US military, who is actually of Ukrainian, I think, wasn't he born, I think he was born in the Ukraine, came here as a child, so he's a dual national, and They wanted to offer him, he's admitted, the Ukrainian government, not a member of NATO.
	That's a little embarrassing, isn't it?
	Offered him the post of Secretary of Defense.
	I've never had that offer.
	But he, he is the man who's going to testify on Capitol Hill that his job as an unelected O5, as a colonel, Is going to defend the inter-agency consensus from Donald Trump, the President, his Commander-in-Chief?
	Which is so peculiar because when I went into the ballot box in 2016 to cast my vote, the most sacred right we have as free men, I remember the ballot and it had two names of human beings.
	Well, one of them a quasi-human being.
	The name of two individuals on the ballot at the top for Chief Executive, and one of them was the man who would become my boss in the White House, Donald John Trump, and the other one was Hillary Rodham Crooked Clinton.
	But there wasn't a third box labelled Interagency Consensus, Sasha.
	No, there wasn't.
	So how does that work exactly?
	You seditious pile of excrement.
	You traitorous individual who should have been thrown in the brig in handcuffs the day you invented the pretext under which your commander-in-chief was again impeached.
	So maybe we should revisit the term resistance.
	Because for the last four years, it was either a joke, stupid pussy cat hats, and insane media figures promoting violence and terrorist acts.
	Oh, not just the media.
	I mean, it was what's-her-face, Maxine Waters as well, right?
	Telling people to harass and abuse members of the Trump administration wherever they saw them.
	So it was actually elected members of the Democrat Party.
	Or it was cowards and punks like Miles Taylor and Alexander Binman.
	I mean truly pathetic.
	Pathetic!
	Risible excuses for human beings.
	Individuals who are beneath contempt in their beta male carriage.
	Maybe time for some real resistance.
	Senator Rand Paul is calling for it.
	And so, so am I. Not the insane.
	Cult of violence of people like Madonna and Depp and Waters.
	But time in the great tradition of the Reverend Martin Luther King for some widespread nationwide civil disobedience.
	Those fascists in the White House Whether it's Fauci or the senile man who calls himself president, they want to inject you with an experimental vaccine, shut down your business, mask your children.
	Just say no.
	The End Matt, you there?
	Yup, I'm here.
	Can you hear me?
	The Matt Attack!
	Loud and clear.
	How you doing, Dr. G?
	Good, good.
	Sorry I couldn't join you on Saturday.
	I was in a place where there is zero coverage.
	Zero coverage.
	Totally fine.
	Do you want to come on this Saturday?
	I will be back there, but I will have a landline number.
	So, can I text it to you once I'm there?
	Yeah, definitely.
	The only thing is the first hour's full, so... Yeah, that's even better.
	Would 11am work?
	11's fine.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Just text me, alright?
	Yep, will do.
	Hey Matt, can you turn your headphones down a little bit?
	It sounds like we're getting some bleed.
	Yeah, hold on.
	Like the headphone output?
	Yeah, the audio that's coming into your headphones.
	How's that?
	Hello!
	We're still getting a slight... A little bit of an echo, yeah.
	A little bit.
	Alright, how about that now?
	Try that now.
	Hello!
	It's better, it'll be fine.
	As long as it doesn't disturb you, Matt.
	It doesn't disturb me.
	How's life?
	Life is great.
	I want to talk infrastructure.
	I want to talk AOC.
	What else are you working on?
	The big picture that I'm noticing is the... I mean, look, you've got Cuomo going down in New York.
	You've got Newsom on the ropes in California.
	Whitmer's in trouble in Michigan.
	The entire Democrat Party's in trouble.
	By the way, I'm getting a major echo here, so I don't know what that is.
	Is that still there?
	Is it still there?
	A little bit.
	No, better now, better now.
	I'll mute my mic.
	No, it wasn't your mic, it was... Oh, is that it?
	Oh, are you good now?
	Are you good now?
	Yeah, good now, good now.
	Alright, alright.
	But yeah, and then Biden's approval rating is sinking fast.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	So you've got this scenario that's set up for like a major Republican year next year.
	Okay, good, good, good, good.
	Dr. G?
	Yeah?
	Food.
	You wanted to do food here.
	Yeah, can I hear the audio?
	Yeah.
	I can only pray that you feel half of what we felt today, but what I was able to feel when I was in that place today doing some of the things that we were able to do.
	I would invite you to get engaged with this and to make the call and to go to this website and to do whatever we're asking you to do today to get engaged because there are folks living with dirt floors and exposed wiring and all the things that you would never dream could occur and people would actually live in.
	These folks are living in it and we can do something about it.
	Um, Geoff, is Seven Levin as well?
	Go ahead.
	Is Seven Levin as well?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Seven's the long one.
	The long one, okay.
	But it's the same... Is it both from his radio show or what?
	It's a Fox.
	It's Hannity.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	All right, good.
	So much to discuss.
	So much to discuss.
	Stand by.
	Come in with, um, with 11, would you?
	11.
	Yep.
	Copy that.
	All right.
	Come in with 11.
	Stand by.
	Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
	Yes.
	I'm going to go.
	Why don't you do your job?
	Why don't you get this border secure?
	And until you do that, I don't want to hear a blip about COVID from you.
	Thank you.
	I like it when governors talk like that.
	That's Ron DeSantis, former JAG.
	I think he worked at Gitmo.
	A man who won't take any guff, as we used to say in the UK, from that senile old man in the White House.
	He doesn't want to hear a blip.
	That's strange.
	How do you hear a blip?
	Anyway, I thought that was a thing on a radar track.
	Anyway, that's some terminology that's unique to Floridians.
	He doesn't want to hear a word from Sleepy Creepy on Covid until he secures the border.
	It's a fair deal.
	Count me in.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	But we have to go straight away to none other than the Washington political editor for the most influential conservative website out there.
	It's Breitbart.com's Matt Boyle.
	Matt, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, always a pleasure.
	Glad to be here.
	So we've got a long list of things that we decided we're going to talk about in the break.
	But first, I've got to ask you, because it's kind of fun.
	This story that you guys broke, I believe, of the protest against evictions on the steps of Congress, with AOC in the middle of this photo shoot, who was palling around with her buddies, her fellow snowflakes, and then suddenly, when the time came for the official photograph, took her mask out of her pocket, put her mask on, and then afterwards, after the photo was taken, put her mask back in her pocket.
	Does that matter to the left, Matt?
	Does it matter to her future?
	Well, look, I think the reason why that was so important, the reason why I'm glad our videographer Matt Purdy was out there and captured that moment is because what it does is it demonstrates to the average person out there that none of this is all theater, right?
	Like all the masks is theater.
	There's no science behind requiring masks at this stage.
	It's all theater to the Democrats and they'll literally just put it on for the photo op and then take it back off while they're hanging out.
	With everybody.
	So, you know, and I thought it was also a telling moment as to who's boss in the Democrat Party.
	Just generally speaking, I mean, clearly AOC, the squad, Cori Bush are driving the White House agenda, not the other way around.
	And that's evidenced by President Biden literally in the CDC doing their eviction moratorium order, which is illegal, by the way, and will be thrown out in court when the day comes and it's challenged.
	And I'm sure that's already being worked on.
	But they weren't going to do that, and then they went and did it because of Cori Bush's, you know, three nights of camping out on the Capitol lawn.
	Occupy Congress is what they called it.
	But the other thing is that, and this is important because we're now seeing Cori Bush out there again calling to defund the police, and the Democrats' leadership and Biden and the White House are trying to say, no, the Republicans are the ones who want to defund the police, not the Democrats, but we know
	Now, based off of Biden's actions on this front, President Biden's actions, not just AOC, not just Cori Bush or any of these other people, but President Biden's actions demonstrate that Cori Bush and AOC are in the driver's seat for the Democrat Party agenda.
	Yeah, she gave a very, very peculiar interview.
	We're going to play some of it in the next segment.
	We're talking of Cori Bush.
	But first, let's look at some governors who are in trouble.
	And we just made a very short list in the break.
	So Randy Andy Cuomo, Gavin Newsom in California, Governor Whitmer, and then Biden's approval ratings.
	Is this the potential of a perfect storm coming together for the Democrat Party, Matt?
	Well, yeah, I find it really interesting that the Democrat Attorney General in New York picked this week as Biden's approval rating has been sinking after his total surrender, which we talked about last week to the coronavirus, an unconditional surrender with this whole new nonsensical mask mandate and so on and so forth.
	All of a sudden they come out with all the evidence against Cuomo this week?
	Why?
	Why this week?
	Why now?
	Because the Democrats are trying to save President Biden from Cuomo and then Biden, by the end of the day, is leaving the cause for Cuomo's resignation.
	So hang on a second, let's unpack that.
	So trying to save him from what?
	From the truth of how many people Cuomo killed in New York?
	From the broader mishandling by the Democrat Party of the coronavirus pandemic.
	We saw this from the governor's responses.
	What Andrew Cuomo did with regard to the nursing homes in New York was a mil- Now, what he did with these women is obviously bad, as is illegal, as evidenced by what the Attorney General said.
	But what he did with the nursing home policy and the failures writ large of the Democrat policy on coronavirus as we're now seeing play out in the Biden administration from the federal level Are a million times worse.
	And that's why you're seeing him in crisis.
	That's why you're seeing Gavin Newsom out in California in crisis.
	And that's why you're seeing Gretchen Whitmer up in Michigan in crisis.
	The Democrat Party mishandled this pandemic.
	They misstepped.
	They screwed up.
	And now Americans are paying the consequences as they engage in their authoritarian behavior again.
	So that's the real story here.
	So they're just trying to paper over the Cuomo problems because they don't want to talk about it.
	Remember the Justice Department came out and said they're not going to do an investigation into Cuomo's nursing home policy?
	So that's what this is really about.
	They're trying to get rid of their problems.
	They're trying to clean up loose ends.
	But the Tish's report is very peculiar because I think over a hundred people were interviewed, but there's no recommendations for charges.
	So is this just they distract them with a shiny object to get the pressure off Sleepy Creepy?
	Yes, so it's, you know what it reminds me of?
	It's like the end of The Godfather Part 1, right?
	Like, they're trying to clean up all their loose ends, right?
	So they're getting rid of Newsome out in California, they're getting rid of Cuomo up in New York, they're, you know, they're dealing with Whitmer, right?
	Like, so that's what this is, it's like the end of The Godfather Part 1.
	The dawn rises, and that's Biden, and he's gotta clean up his loose ends around the country, and all these people that he used to get there, and he's got all these loose ends he's gotta tie up, and the problems with his policy were at large as well.
	We need more filmic references for today's political environment.
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	The End So I'm being sensitive?
	Yeah, no, that was me, I'm sorry.
	That was because of Hungary?
	Because of Hungary you censored me?
	I never do that, sorry.
	Orban already knows.
	He knows?
	Yeah.
	So this is amazing, this guy, this blows me away, I checked it out, because this, he's not a plumber, he's a gas fitter, okay?
	Who's from the same village Orban grew up in.
	Thanks to Orban, this gas fitter, okay?
	The Financial Times says he's now worth, this is in Hungary, 1.3 billion dollars.
	In Hungary!
	In Hungary!
	Is the GDP of Hungary even over a billion dollars?
	I was gonna say, does the government have that much money?
	No, not anymore!
	How much is your son Hunter worth?
	God, it's incredible!
	You see the photographs of this guy?
	I'm gonna post the photograph.
	He looks like... But what's a billion?
	What has he made money off of?
	How's he doing?
	All of these companies end up registered in his name.
	Just hundreds of companies that he just magically acquired.
	So playing devil's advocate here, do you think there's value in Orban and that he is seen as a strong man and that is what helped the party become... No, this is the sad reality of what Orban has done.
	That publicly he's done some amazing things.
	He said to the EU, screw you, we're going to build a fence, we're not going to have open borders.
	Great.
	Number two, he said we are a Christian nation and we're going to state in our new constitution that we are a Christian nation.
	Nice.
	As he's stealing half the country.
	Life's complicated, you know what I mean?
	Yeah, no, definitely, definitely.
	I mean, it's just that, like, his party, obviously, they have, like, huge majorities, right?
	No, no, his party, which is amazing, because I was their national security advisor in 1994 when they were at 7%.
	They were nobodies, right?
	I mean, nobodies.
	Their party has been so effective There is no opposition.
	The former communists that ran the roost after the fall of communism for three cycles, they're dead, they're buried, they're gone.
	The former free liberal democrats, gone, dead, buried.
	It is basically a one-party state because the rest, the opposition, has collapsed.
	It's not authoritarian, it's because he's been more effective in just outmaneuvering them.
	He's just wildly popular, basically.
	Oh, yeah, massively popular.
	Still, still.
	Right.
	Oh, sure, sure.
	So, like, do you see, like, a scenario in which, say, he steps down and he's no longer the face of the party, the party might suffer, or would the party still... Oh, yeah, he'll step down when Putin steps down.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Okay?
	Yeah.
	Oh, man.
	I gotta give a shout-out, by the way, to Math Mike in the Rumble chat, who says, I used to love when Rush called him Colonel, oh, say, can you see Vindman?
	I didn't hear that.
	Matt, are you still there?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Sorry, we're just kind of talking here amongst the team.
	So what do you think of all this, this whole Tucker thing in Hungary, right?
	Well, that's why we're discussing it.
	I mean, all my buddies are saying, I mean, literally, I had Kurt Schlichter say, I'm looking to move to Hungary last night.
	He texted me.
	He said, I can get a first class ticket for $2,000.
	I'm seriously thinking of leaving.
	It's like, can we get a little bit more tactically aware about, I mean, it's beautiful.
	It's an amazing country.
	The city is literally the Paris of the East.
	It's incredible.
	But this regime, for all its successes, is massively corrupt.
	Massively corrupt.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	So my team want me to get in trouble by talking about it.
	Well, there's nobody that knows more about it than Dr. Gorka.
	In America?
	Absolutely not.
	Absolutely not.
	Exactly.
	15 years of my life there.
	Five of them in the government.
	The first conservative government after the fall of communism, so yeah.
	All right, 20 seconds.
	Let's come in with the Cori Bush cut.
	Cut 10.
	Cori Bush cut 10.
	All right, wait for your disclaimer, okay?
	Disclaimer and then cut 10.
	Yeah, stand by.
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	You can't get that off.
	I'm going to make sure I have security because I know I have had attempts on my life.
	And I have too much work to do.
	There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that.
	So if I end up spending $200,000, if I spend $10 more on it, you know what?
	I get to be here to do the work.
	So suck it up.
	And defunding the police has to happen.
	We need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets.
	So that's the most insane member of the squad.
	I think it's the Ringo Starr of the squad, Cori Bush, who has been found spending $70,000 on her private arm security as she is screaming for defund the police.
	Matt Boyle, you live in the swamp.
	You understand what the swamp is about.
	Does this level of rank hypocrisy have any effect on people who may have voted for Sleepy Creepy Biden?
	Well, look, I think the mask just slipped right there, right?
	Speaking of masks, right?
	We now know this is what the Democrat Party believes.
	They believe in defunding the police.
	By the way, I was literally telling somebody the other day, she's our third President Bush, right?
	Like, so she's the president.
	So as demonstrated by the fact that Joe Biden, the man who currently occupies the Oval Office, literally did exactly what she demanded in response to the eviction moratorium after previously telling us that he wouldn't do it because of the Supreme Court ruling.
	So now why should we believe Joe Biden will stop her from defunding the police?
	So here's the mechanism I want you to try and brushstroke, try and draw for us.
	How does this work?
	Because it's clear he's not in charge.
	It's clear Nancy is still very powerful.
	It's clear the squad wants to be in control.
	So is this Does the messaging come from Bush to Nancy to the White House?
	Is it funneled through Susan Rice?
	Have you seen in the last six months any pattern for how the radicals are actually controlling the administration?
	Well, they're doing it through controlling the narrative in the establishment media, right?
	So, like, they go out and they do their little campout on the Capitol steps, and then they force Joe Biden to adopt the new policy.
	That's why I call her President Bush, right?
	President Cori Bush.
	She's the real president.
	She's the third President Bush in this country, right?
	We had George H.W.
	Bush.
	We had George W. Bush.
	Now we have President Cori Bush.
	She's in charge.
	Joe Biden answers to Cori Bush.
	That's how the process works.
	We see this on every single major policy item, every single other thing out there, but it comes through public pressure.
	So whenever Cori Bush decides to go out there and put public pressure on a certain issue, then she's able to get the action that she wants out of it.
	And Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Nancy Pelosi can't stop her.
	They can't say no.
	So Matt, if this is the case, if we know, for example, on just this one issue, not only is she a rank hypocrite, but most Americans, especially black Americans, minority Americans, do not want the police defunded, does this Which we have witnessed for six months.
	Does this lead inexorably to an utter defeat for the Democrats in the midterms?
	Well, their own polling says they're going to lose close to 50 seats next year in the House of Representatives.
	The DCCC chairman was out there, Sean Patrick Maloney.
	There's a Politico story the other day that they had polled 48 districts, four dozen districts, and Republicans.
	These are Democrat-held districts right now.
	A generic Republican candidate beats a generic Democrat candidate in 48 districts by 6 percent.
	That signals absolute bloodbath coming for the Democrats in the upcoming midterm elections unless they drastically change the direction of their party right now and remove Cori Bush from the presidency.
	They have to do something about it rather than just continuing to give us lip service, and they're not going to.
	As evidenced by the White House's comments about it today, Jen Psaki was asked about it at the briefing, and she said that she's okay with what Cori Bush says with regard to defunding the police.
	Well, that tells you everything you need to know, which is that as soon as Cori Bush decides to have a campout about defunding police rather than about eviction moratoriums, she will win and she will get the action that she wants if Joe Biden's in the White House.
	Which means they get defeated next year.
	That's exactly right.
	I think we're headed for a red wave in the upcoming midterm elections.
	Ah, from your lips to God's ears.
	In the meantime, get informed.
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	Thank you, Matt Boyle.
	This is America First.
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	Anytime.
	Connect us.
	Hey, I gotta take a quick... Can we put him on hold while I talk to this caller?
	Alright, standby Buck.
	Mic's on or off?
	On.
	Line 5.
	Line 5, Jerry, what's your problem?
	I don't have a problem.
	What I support is more Americans getting vaccinated.
	Almost nobody, very few people who get vaccinated contract the disease.
	Why shouldn't there be a choice, Jerry?
	My body, my choice.
	There should be a choice.
	What I'm doing is urging people.
	97% of the people who get sick or die are people who were not vaccinated.
	If you get vaccinated, the odds of you contracting, especially from another vaccinated person, So what do you say to the families of the 47 people in New Jersey who've died after they got the vaccine?
	So you don't believe in personal liberty?
	didn't get the vaccination in New Jersey.
	So you don't believe in personal liberty?
	Because, again, it's not 0%.
	People die in automobile accidents with seatbelts on.
	That doesn't mean you shouldn't wear a seatbelt.
	Jerry, do you believe abortion should be a right?
	Do I believe abortion should be a right?
	I try to limit the intervention of government.
	I try to limit the intervention of government.
	No, no, answer the question.
	Do you believe women should be allowed to get abortions?
	If women didn't get abortions, they'd more with dying back alleys.
	Answer the question, yes or no.
	Do you believe women should be allowed to get abortions?
	I don't think it's the difference of government to intervene.
	Yes or no?
	I believe it should be their right.
	I don't think it should intervene with the government.
	OK, good.
	Well, then it's my right to say no to a vaccine.
	I'm not trying to mandate you.
	No, no, no.
	Then I'm going to say to you, it's my right.
	I'm not trying to mandate.
	No, look, when the inventor... Jerry, Jerry, just shut up for a second.
	When the inventor of the RMNA vaccine, the inventor, OK, says it's dangerous, I'm not going to take it.
	And people should look into it.
	Thank you.
	Hi, this is President Trump this is President Trump and Sebastian is really a friend of mine.
	He's a great guy.
	He's been with me from the beginning.
	Listen to him.
	We all learn.
	That's actually a statement of fact.
	It was summer of 2015 that I met the future president in Trump Tower and he hired me to help him out and then we ended up in the White House.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	Let's talk to somebody else who loves the country as much as my old boss does.
	I think I think he's got a new radio show.
	Before we introduce that, first things first though, it's national security we're going to discuss with him above all else.
	And if you haven't seen it already, there's an amazing new movie about that fateful day, three months after we killed Bin Laden, when a helicopter carrying a team of SEALs Crashed.
	The answers for what happened to Call Sign Extortion 17 are still not being provided and we have a brand new film that asks those questions and gives new scenarios as to what could have happened and whether or not there's a cover-up.
	Where is the black box?
	Why is it still missing?
	Why did it take 17 minutes to fly a 10-minute route in Afghanistan?
	Watch the movie today.
	Fallen Angel.
	Call sign Extortion17.
	The only place you can watch it is SalemNow.com.
	It's an amazing movie.
	I saw it last week.
	Watch it today because we need answers.
	Americans need answers.
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	It is that time to introduce a man who, well, let's just say he's got a little radio show now.
	His name is Buck Sexton.
	Is it true?
	That I have a radio show?
	It is indeed!
	That you've got a radio show!
	I do.
	The Clay Travis and Buck Setzman Show, Dr. G. And how much fun are you having with your new radio show at a certain slot during the day?
	It is absolutely fantastic.
	I'm loving it so far.
	Really appreciate the audience response.
	And tell us what kind of response you've been getting.
	Nobody can replace the great Rush, but tell us what your entry, your well-deserved entry onto the national stage with your co-host, Clay Travis.
	Tell us the kinds of messages you've been getting.
	Well, as you said, Dr. G, no one ever replaces Rush, and that much is clear, and we've been clear about that from the very beginning.
	We're really living in a house that Rush built, and in fact, I would say That even you, because of the medium that you're in and because of what we both do with radio, owe a debt of gratitude to Rush Limbaugh that we can never really repay, right?
	Rush is the reason that talk radio exists the way that it does.
	And so, I just feel like every time I get an email from somebody who's a Rush listener, because they're really, they are, this is Rush's audience, this is Rush's family that I'm talking to every day, and when they say something like, You know, I miss Rush, but I'm proud of what you're trying to do to carry the torch on.
	I miss Rush, but you're obviously a long-time Rush listener yourself.
	You filled in for him, and you're trying to carry forward the fight in his name.
	No greater honor I could ask for than that, and that's what I think so far we're able to achieve, and that's been really gratifying.
	Well, congratulations.
	You're absolutely right.
	When he started his career, AM radio was moribund.
	Everybody said it was dead, it was dying, and he reinvented it and is the only thing we owe in the culture, the only thing we own.
	as conservatives is talk radio and that's thanks to rush limbaugh okay you are a national security expert you've served in the cia you've served in the nypd you're a new yorker at heart i gotta ask you because we're still debating it here amongst the team is randy andy gonna go is he gonna stay are they gonna have to drag him out of there in a pine box or in handcuffs
	i have been saying all along that he will not resign and i feel very confident in that prediction still because it's all about sin.
	What, he's going to resign to protect the dignity of the office of the governor?
	Dr. G, Andrew Cuomo thinks he is the office of the governor, you know?
	Louis XIV laid tax on me.
	That's how he views this, right?
	He is the governor.
	And the notion of anybody else, while he still draws breath, having that job is just too much for him to bear.
	Now, will Democrats in the state legislature go against him?
	Will those Democrats actually impeach and remove him?
	They're going to start that process.
	But I've spoken to folks who say that it'll drag on for at least 60, 90 days.
	And given where we're heading right now with the possibility of lockdowns, vaccine mandates coming to New York City, perhaps more broadly across the country in Democrat strongholds, Do we really know there'll be the kind of pressure to get those votes from Democrats to remove him in 90 days?
	I wouldn't count him out, Dr. G. I think he's still got some fight left in him, and he is a surly, difficult, you-know-what.
	Indeed and isn't it an indictment of the weakness of the man who bears the title of president that he can yesterday say that Randy Andy should resign and and the fact is his fellow party members says I ain't going anywhere.
	Oh he knows that he's gonna dig in he knows that there's no upside for him and let's be very clear about this the worst thing from a Andrew Cuomo is not, in fact, a sexual harassment in my opinion.
	No!
	The worst thing is the covering up of sending people's mothers, fathers, grandmas, grandpas back into nursing homes with COVID.
	The dumbest single decision that anybody could think of during the entire COVID pandemic that likely resulted in a hundred, if not thousands, of additional unnecessary deaths.
	And that wasn't enough to push him out.
	You think that, you know, grabbing and, you know, being inappropriate with women and so on and so forth is going to push on this guy's conscience enough?
	I don't think so.
	I don't think so, Seb.
	I think this guy, he's digging into the trench more than ever.
	All right, so we've got 60 seconds left with Buck Sexton, the host with Clay Travis of a new radio show that you guys need to check out.
	I gotta ask you this question.
	Rand Paul has raised the issue.
	I started it last week.
	It's time for Americans to resist some civil disobedience, whether it comes to masks, mandatory inoculations, or shutting down businesses.
	Do you concur?
	What do you think?
	We gotta hit mass non-compliance.
	I talk about this on the Buck Sexton podcast, which I would recommend to your brilliant and patriotic audience, which is a separate show I do every morning for about 30 minutes.
	It's a fast, quick, and dirty rundown of everything, the Buck Sexton podcast.
	I talk about it today, Dr. G, where we gotta have mass non-compliance.
	We gotta have people who either are supposed to enforce or supposed to be enforced against to say, Enough.
	They will not give back the power.
	We have to take back the power to live normal, free lives.
	That's where we are.
	I know you're with me on this.
	I like that.
	They've so sallied the term resistance.
	I like civil disobedience in the mold of MLK.
	But I might actually start using, with your permission, the mass non-compliance.
	It's right.
	They're not going to give us back our freedom.
	We have to take it back.
	Listen to this man every single day, including his podcast, Buck Sexton's podcast.
	God bless you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Can you get me this article?
	Carol Markowitz.
	Eric.
	New York Post.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And any bio data on her, because I've seen her name before.
	Oh yeah, that's how her name is spelled.
	Okay.
	Yeah, let me grab that.
	I'm assuming it's her latest one.
	Here's her bio line.
	Oh yeah, masking kit.
	Got it.
	All right.
	Working on it now.
	He's working on it now.
	Uh, you wanted a new pillow here, Dr. G?
	Yeah, I might, but we've got so many calls.
	Yes, we do.
	Ultimately.
	Oh, do we want... You want me to add Rebecca's book, right?
	For tomorrow?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Putin's playbook.
	Apparently one of Newsom's top aides responded to the debate the other night with the Republican candidates and said all four of them were trying to do their best Larry Elder impersonations.
	Oh, that's good.
	Once again, it shows they're afraid of him.
	Mm-hmm.
	That has to be the dumbest comment an aide could make, because if you didn't know about Larry Elder, after that comment, you'd look him up.
	Exactly.
	What cretins.
	They are so scary.
	Oh, did we reach out to Shari Moxon?
	No, I won't.
	Okay.
	45 seconds.
	After this, we need to do the generics and also record that thing.
	Oh, two-way for tomorrow.
	Uh, yeah.
	Um, how long has it been since Patton was on?
	Has he been recently?
	Like three weeks?
	We replayed him like three weeks ago.
	Oh, okay.
	Um... Harmison and Shepard are the two that I haven't met in a while.
	Harmison.
	Alright.
	Isn't there a guy who works for Town Hall Media who's a gun guy?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Um... I think we had him on when... He has a funny name.
	When Mark was hosting.
	He was pretty good.
	Uh, what's his name?
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	Let's go to George, Columbus, Ohio.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey!
	I gotta tell you, it's always intimidating.
	This is only the second time I've spoken to you, but it's always a little bit intimidating.
	I wanted to ask because I don't know if it's true or not.
	I read somewhere, and I can't remember where because I'm getting all my information from all different sources ever since all this stuff has been going on.
	And what I read was that it says that because COVID-19 was created in a laboratory, there can be no variant because it's a mutant.
	No, I'm not a virologist, but I think that's garbage.
	A, we don't know whether it was created in a lab.
	We know they were researching it.
	And secondly, gain of function actually is something they were doing to it.
	So the capacity for it to change, why would an altered virus be unable to mutate?
	I don't see why that's the case.
	I don't understand either.
	I was just asking for a debunking or something like that.
	Yeah.
	Look, every virus has mutations.
	Whether or not somebody did something to it first, I don't think makes it sterile in terms of future mutations.
	So again, George Proviso, caveat, I'm not a virologist, but you know, we can look into it.
	Thank you for your call.
	Let's go to Sarah, South Carolina.
	Hello.
	How are you?
	Good!
	Good, good.
	I so appreciate your intelligence and your wit.
	Thank you!
	It just makes my day.
	It really does.
	I just wanted to share with you that when you said earlier, just say no.
	It's like, oh my gosh, I have to call Dr. Gorka.
	Because I felt a few days ago that the Lord just filled my mind with a thought.
	Just say no and do not do what these people tell you to do.
	You have to do the opposite.
	As a matter of fact, yes, it's important to do good.
	But at this time, we need to just do not do, do not listen to what they say.
	Just don't do it.
	Do not listen to these people who think they're in authority over us.
	It worked before.
	It'll work again.
	That's how MLK did what he did.
	It's how Gandhi did what he did in India.
	It's time for American patriots for some mass civil disobedience and mass non-compliance.
	God bless you, Sarah.
	Stay on the line.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Carousel, please.
	What's that?
	Oh, the article?
	Great.
	I've seen her name before.
	I'm just curious.
	What is her affiliation for this piece?
	What does it say in her bio?
	Nothing.
	I checked Federalist, Spectator USA, New York Post.
	She has no bio.
	Maybe I follow her.
	Okay.
	We're coming in in 30 seconds.
	Yeah.
	Is this the Great Hungarian Slamdown?
	Is that what this monologue is gonna be?
	Is this the Hungarian monologue?
	Oh, this might be the Hungarian monologue.
	It's your last chance.
	Oh, can you print his entry?
	I'll send it to you.
	It's in a wiki.
	Hang on.
	Okay.
	Maybe do you want to do it then?
	No, I'll just send it to you.
	Just hang on.
	We can do it later then.
	We have a lot of free time in this hour.
	10 seconds.
	Standby.
	Coming in with something, Dr. G?
	No.
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	What happened to our prank callers?
	Are they dead?
	Did the big C, did Covid take them?
	Or did their mum take their phone away?
	I mean, they're really, they're not calling us.
	And when they do, that last guy, if he was a prankster, we took him in the break.
	Dude, nobody is called Richard and his friends call him Robert.
	Try harder, really.
	Or don't try at all.
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	So much to discuss.
	The call board is absolutely full.
	Linda, Leonardo, Bill, Gina don't go anywhere but Mark Levine, our good buddy, he was on the show what a week ago, is making a lot of waves as he does with a recent interview he gave where he, I don't know, sent a shot across the bow of the establishment GOP.
	Let's listen to the great one.
	Cut seven.
	Play cuts.
	Republicans, have you ever heard of the word impeachment?
	Are you guys going to go down to the border and whine yourselves to death?
	I know you're not in the majority, but you need to start explaining to the American people.
	This man just violated a Supreme Court decision.
	This man is the border wide open in violation of our immigration laws.
	I mean, you impeach Donald Trump when he's out of office because of a letter.
	You set up a phony incitement insurrection.
	This man is doing enormous damage to this country.
	People with the virus!
	He knows they have the virus.
	His government knows they have the virus.
	They're pushing them into the interior of the country.
	Now, what kind of a president does that to his own people?
	If he's not at least going to look out for the health and safety of the American people, then he needs to be removed.
	I know who's behind him, but the point is that's what impeachment is for.
	Not for the Democrats to chase every Republican president, but to get Get rid of this guy.
	He is a disaster.
	And again, I don't care if he's dim-witted or just stupid.
	It doesn't much matter.
	To allow people into this country... First of all, to tell law-abiding Americans you're going to wear a mask even though you've been vaccinated.
	Little kids who do not give the virus or get the virus, you're going to be wearing masks because the NEA and the AFT told me to do so.
	Isn't it time to remove this Well, isn't it time to remove this guy from the Oval Office, or at least make an effort?
	So you tough guy Republicans who come on here, you tough guy Republicans on radio, how about it?
	The I-word.
	Impeachment.
	Let's start to talk about it.
	All right, I need to address this because, look, he's absolutely right.
	American Marxism is his newest book.
	He came on the show to discuss it.
	Get it now.
	He is the great one.
	The GOP have been supine.
	It's like, you know, it's like the dog on its back waiting for you to rub its tummy.
	That's what the GOP is.
	Oh, I'll write another letter to the White House.
	Let's have a little soundbite conference down at the border.
	Yes, they have to do something.
	My question is, and let's ask the man who is the most cynical member of this team, apart from me.
	His name is Mr. G. Jeff, the impeachment thing, I love the fact that this rebel, MTG, who was on the show for an hour last week with Matt Gaetz, is the first person to call for impeachment, but we don't have the numbers, so give me your take on Mark's recommendations.
	Yeah, we don't have the numbers, but we do have numbers that it looks like it's going to be good in 2022.
	The Republicans are going to probably take back the House.
	So what are you saying?
	Prep the ground?
	No, and I'm saying Democrats know that too.
	So if they were actually unified and being serious about day one, if they take back the House, they're going to impeach Biden.
	You might get them to do something about the border if they actually believe them.
	The problem is they wouldn't even believe the Republicans.
	What else would you, because you and I and this whole team, this massive, this army of people here that make this radio show.
	We all, I think, have a Similar level of utter disgust with the GOP establishment.
	That's why it's a pleasure to work with you, gentlemen.
	What else would you like to see, Jeff, coming out of the GOP?
	At least.
	At least.
	When they get somebody on the ropes, as we talk about, actually get them removed.
	Like, if Fauci, let's say, was a Republican, Republicans loved him, he would have been gone after those emails came out.
	He rode the storm for a couple weeks, now it's over.
	I like that.
	Eric, what would you like to see, within the realms of the possible, because you are a little bit of an extremist, what would you like to see the GOP do?
	Well, first and foremost, I absolutely agree with what was discussed previously with Congressman Gates and Congresswoman MTG.
	Get rid of Cheney and Kinzinger.
	Kick them off their committees, kick them out of the party, show we're not tolerating them anymore, and actively campaign for their primary opponents.
	First and foremost, we have the power to do that right now.
	That was a very reasonable suggestion.
	I'm shocked.
	Chad, are you shocked that Eric the Berserker was so reasonable?
	I'm a little shocked, not gonna lie.
	I'm a little shocked.
	There was very little oofta to that.
	Okay, so what about you?
	Let's give him another chance.
	Eric, can you spice it up for us?
	A little bit of spice.
	Eric, one more shot.
	Um, I don't know.
	Maybe... Well, let him think.
	While Chad keeps giving us his answer.
	I think that there should be stronger litmus tests for social problems.
	You mean for candidates, or what?
	Yeah, for candidates, especially related to culture issues.
	Interesting.
	Because the problem is that the GOP right now- So like transgender and stuff?
	Yeah, yeah.
	We're so focused right now on, you know, strategic stuff, and that's super important.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	But, you know, basic stuff like, you know- First principles.
	The transgender issue, first principles and stuff- I like that.
	It's not something we're talking about anymore.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And part of that, I think, you know, might require a rewriting of the platform.
	It might, you know, require people to be a little bit more explicit about this stuff, but- Good.
	It makes it so that wishy-washy people on social issues are really easy to get through.
	Love it.
	Eric, you got something rad for us?
	I don't know, maybe accuse Cheney and Kinzinger of incitement of insurrection by voting for impeachment.
	I don't know.
	Ooh, that's a little bit more spicy.
	We love it, we love it.
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	Let's go to your calls exactly on the great one.
	Linda, waiting patiently in Florida.
	Welcome aboard.
	Sure.
	I am so honored to talk to you.
	It's my honor.
	Well, I'm a first-time caller and I wanted to tell you that I did listen to Mark Levin.
	I got on the phone and I called my congressman.
	And I talked to his office and I suggested that they impeach Biden and also Nancy Pelosi.
	Good!
	On thinking further, I'm thinking they should also impeach Kamala Harris because she has abdicated her position.
	Uh, at the border.
	You mean the woman who's in charge of the border?
	I think that's a fabulous idea.
	The woman who's not in charge of the border.
	No, no, but she is the Tsarina.
	Linda, be more like Linda.
	That's what we need in America.
	Stay on the line.
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	Let's go to our good buddy in New Jersey.
	He's going to hammer it to the governor like he does every time.
	Leonardo, welcome.
	Just say no to Phil Murphy.
	Just say no.
	Just say no to Cal.
	But Phil wants to get rid of Cuomo, so is Phil a good guy now, Leo?
	Jack Cittarelli for governor of New Jersey.
	Wake up, as Mark Levin would say.
	Wake up!
	Wake up!
	All right.
	Why did you call us?
	What a great show today, and you guys are so aggressive.
	You and your posse over there.
	If Media Matters is listening, it's only metaphorical.
	Take no prisoners and burn the village to the ground.
	So I'm loving it, and that's why you're so popular.
	So don't hold back.
	Me?
	When do I ever hold back, Leo?
	That's why you're so popular.
	You're on Newsmax.
	Pretty soon, you'll be president.
	I hope.
	I'll vote for you.
	You have to change that pesky constitution first, I'm afraid.
	That's alright.
	The Democrats have no problem ignoring it now that we're in a post-constitutional era, right?
	President, you know, the third Bush, right?
	I love that.
	President Cory... Crazy Cory!
	Well, it's great because now everybody, you know, can be satisfied on the left that there has already now been anointed, without an election, an African-American woman who basically wants to defund the police as she's surrounded by her security guards.
	Thank you, Leonardo.
	Back with none other than Joe Piscopo.
	I miss when Leonardo would say at least one thing every time.
	That would make me, like, almost reach for the dump button.
	Those were the days.
	Um, now the mayor of Miami wants to come on our show tomorrow.
	Like, no, sorry, he wants to come on today.
	Today.
	I said, uh, no.
	Maybe tomorrow.
	Will you ping his person?
	Yeah.
	and tell him he's texting me to come on the show.
	Radio show.
	Got it.
	Yeah.
	All right, mic's on.
	Titles.
	Oh my gosh.
	The 1A, what did I rail on in 1A?
	You talked a little bit about Hungary, but you mostly talked about the non-compliance.
	Vindman.
	Oh, Vindman.
	Mostly Vindman.
	It was Vindman, and then you kind of, towards the end you wrapped it all up with non-compliance.
	Oh, Vindman and the real resistance.
	Vindman and the real resistance, got it.
	Boyle.
	2022 will be a bloodbath for the Democrats.
	Yes, that's good.
	Buck, was Buck good enough quality to post?
	The sound quality was... It wasn't great sound, yeah.
	What was the most... Oh, no, I love that.
	Time for mass non-compliance.
	Mass non-compliance.
	For mass non-compliance.
	I'll bring you in that... Jersey Joe!
	Why can't he spell the word Jersey?
	This is the question.
	Did the Catholic nuns not teach you how to spell Jersey?
	How are you doctor?
	You know, you know, get this, get this.
	So I went to the same Benedictine school in West London for 13 flipping years, okay?
	And before that I went into a feeder nunnery.
	I was, they had a little, the local girl school had a little feeder for five-year-old boys to prep them for the Benedictines.
	Those poor women, They tried to teach me how to write and I still have... I should be a doctor.
	The Catholic... I still remember Mother Superior Mary Margarita tried her best and failed!
	That poor woman!
	Poor woman.
	Every time I see The Sound of Music I think of Superior Mary Margarita.
	And your knuckles, your knuckles from the rulers.
	Oh my gosh.
	No, they loved me.
	I was, I was, I had, I had white curls as a kid.
	I'm not kidding.
	I can show you photographs.
	I had white flipping curls.
	I was a horror when I ended up at the Benedictines, but the nuns, they like, oh, he's so sweet.
	I got away with murder.
	Literally.
	I was killing people at the age of five.
	You got that, Zachy?
	Here you go.
	For the record.
	How you doing, buddy?
	Good.
	I'm doing great, man.
	I'm doing great.
	I'm actually great.
	I'm down the shore with my mom.
	We're down the Jersey Shore.
	Oh, your mom!
	That photograph!
	That was so awesome!
	Giving my best.
	I know.
	I will accept.
	That is so sweet.
	Got to tell you, I pity you because I'm talking to you in a semi-wetsuit.
	You know, I got the upper wetsuit because the water's a little rough.
	I'm going to go tackle the Atlantic.
	And I'm thinking how tough you are and how proud you would be of me to jump in that ocean at this time, sir.
	Yeah, no, I'm not impressed.
	Because if you're not doing a Sean Connery with the dinner jacket under the wetsuit, I'm just, I'm unimpressed.
	You leave me cold.
	You leave me cold.
	All right.
	Stand by.
	Stand by.
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	Okay.
	I don't believe it.
	He says he's somewhere on the Atlantic Ocean about to zip up his wetsuit over his dinner jacket and do a reenactment of that special scene with Sean Connery from James Bond.
	Although knowing him, It might be true.
	He's Jersey Joe Piscopo.
	Follow him right now on Twitter.
	He still doesn't know how to spell Jersey.
	J-R-Z-Y, Joe Piscopo.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Thank you, Gorka.
	I love the Sean Connery reference.
	Thank you.
	You humble me.
	Hey, hey, look.
	Can we just stop?
	When you were booked today, I said to myself, I'm sitting at home, Jeff says, we've booked the Jersey Joe.
	And I said, I'm going to do it now on live radio in front of three million people.
	I'm going to fess up.
	I try my best.
	Even Dennis Prager on his show has said, I do not know how you do it Seb.
	He wears a tie.
	Not only do I wear a tie, I wear a suit and tie.
	And Dennis was impressed.
	I pale by comparison to you, Joe.
	You knocked me out of the park.
	You came on my show in a dinner jacket last time.
	How cool was that?
	Did your mom tell you to do that, to just shame me?
	She did.
	I am with my mom now.
	She says they're very, very bad.
	Mama Pescapo is making lasagna for Seb Gorka right now, as we speak.
	Oh, yes!
	Okay, here's my test.
	Here's my test.
	Here's my test.
	Can Mama Pescapo, because this is my test of any Italian restaurant, can she make zabaglione?
	Yeah, she can make anything.
	She's looking at me, she's laughing.
	And you're so funny when you said that.
	I love, I got to tell you, what we try to do, and we're on the radio, and I'm on the radio, and we're on TV, and when I become a big star, like you said, Gorka, I'm really going to wear a tuxedo all the time, but I wear a shirt and tie, and it's about time we dress up and we take it up a notch a little bit.
	Can I tell you a story?
	We're supposed to be talking about Randy Anicomo, but can I tell you a story that will never ever Leave my cranium.
	So it was before I lived in America it was like 15 years ago and I think we were traveling across America we were here on vacation and we were flying from I think O'Hare or maybe I know I think was Newark I think we're flying from Newark to California or something and I was with my little kids and my wife and I get to the check-in desk and
	And I'm wearing, all I'm doing, all I'm wearing, because I'm trying to make an effort, I'm not even wearing a tie, Jo, no tie, but I'm wearing a proper shirt with cufflinks, I had slack, I had cotton proper dress pants, like white pants, and I had a blazer, like a classic blazer with brass buttons.
	And I'm there getting my, you know, remember the days when we actually checked in at the check-in desk, my little kids and my wife, and this woman who was maybe late 40s, early 50s, She just stares at me, she just pauses and she stares at me for a second and there's that pregnant pause and in front of everybody she says, I remember the time when everybody made an effort like you're making.
	You know, when it's not pajamas and flip-flops and I thought, what does it cost me to just make a little effort?
	Wow, you're absolutely right.
	I always felt that same way.
	It's unbelievable that people don't get it.
	And I gotta tell you, the younger folks, Ceb, now the younger folks who listen to the show, and when we do our Sinatra show on Sundays, everybody wants to dress up.
	Everybody wants to take it up a notch.
	And I'm telling you, we could write the book.
	I love it.
	And I love, and tab collars, that's what I, you gotta always remember, tab collars, baby.
	Remember that from the 60s?
	Yes, and Billy Joel sang about it.
	Billy Joel Rogers sang about Tad Collars in The Age of Giants.
	You stay, said Gorka, my friend, you stay dapper, my brother.
	And I'm telling you, there's going to be time, and it's going to probably be overseas somewhere when we take the trip, when everything opens up, you and me in a tuxedo.
	But, but.
	And we're going to do our version of Ebony and I.
	But.
	All right, how about that?
	I love it.
	I love Aberdeen Ivory.
	Oh, my wife thinks it's complete cheese.
	I love cheese.
	But I think you're right.
	We need to write a book on what it means to be cool.
	Okay?
	The dapper Joe and Sam will do it.
	Okay, let's get to work.
	Firstly, I love the photograph of your mom.
	God bless your mom.
	Can't wait to meet her and eat some lasagna.
	We've got two minutes left.
	Two minutes.
	And we need some ground truth because my team here is conflicted.
	Is this Reprehensible excuse for a man going to leave the governor's mansion or not.
	Your Jersey Joe, tell us.
	Yeah, I'm going to tell you, he is.
	The endgame will be he's going to have to step down, but it's not going to be easy.
	And it's not going to be probably within the next six weeks.
	I went over this on my show on AM 970 in New York in the morning, Seb, and I talked to Senator Rob Orr up in New York State.
	We talked to Michael Goodwin.
	We talked to Lee Selden.
	And this guy digs in.
	Andrew Cuomo digs in.
	And let me tell you, I'm an Italian.
	I want to stick up for my Italians.
	I keep telling you, every time we talk, I got Fauci, I got de Blasio, I got Cuomo, I'm getting buried over here.
	Pelosi, help me out!
	Seth, please!
	What am I doing?
	Thank God for Steve Scalise.
	Can I say that on the radio?
	Yes!
	We love Steve!
	You know what I'm saying?
	Thank God it's Scalise.
	Italian, Louisiana, we love that.
	Everybody else, I'm having trouble.
	My goodness gracious, I can't tell you.
	He'll be out, but it's going to take a while.
	He's going to dig in.
	He's going to dig in like we've never seen before.
	And isn't it reprehensible, Joe, that he's going to leave, if he ever does, because of, you know, kissy-kissy, huggy-huggy, and not the 14,000 people who died because he sent them back to those old people's homes?
	Yeah, it's a terrible situation, but I don't think he's going to skirt that issue, too.
	Really?
	This is what I'm hearing on the inside in New York, on our flagship station.
	I don't think he's going to get away with any of it.
	I think they're going after him on it.
	And I went to the link, and it's a great question, and this is a great viewpoint that you're putting out there, Seb Gorka, because there's no way he can survive.
	It's not going to happen.
	I think Janice Dean is on our show tomorrow.
	Janice Dean?
	Oh my gosh.
	She lit up.
	She was on with Glenn Beck today.
	And you know what?
	Before you go, I know we're on a limited time.
	You know, I know Andrew for years.
	I know Mario.
	I was a lifelong Democrat before I saw the light.
	And Matilda, Andrew's mother, is wonderful.
	Andrew kept the Columbus statue in New York.
	He bought the Mother Cabrini statue.
	He never called Joe.
	You call me, Seb.
	I appreciate that, my friend.
	Jersey Joe, AM 970.
	Check out his weekend show, Sinatra.
	Amazing.
	JoePiscopo.us.
	God bless you.
	Keep doing what you do.
	Kisses to Mama Piscopo.
	This is America First.
	Thanks, buddy.
	That was awesome.
	Oh man, you are a fire, my brother.
	We gotta get you in Atlantic City on stage with me.
	Are you kidding me?
	Just wait till you hear me sing, then you might change your mind, but we'll give it a try.
	Yeah, no, you're so good.
	Thanks, buddy.
	God bless you, man.
	Give me three.
	Hey, who's this?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Oh, OK.
	That's up, Eric.
	I was gonna say you could turn the mics back on.
	- All right, this is American financing. - I want to start over here, cut now. - Uh, okay. - Title. - Oh, title. - Hang on a sec. - One minute. - All right, one more time one more time just make sure I got it right. - Episcopo.
	Yeah.
	Yes, Cuomo's toast.
	Cuomo's toast.
	All right, I'll call you back.
	Happens every time we have him on the show.
	What?
	He's great.
	What?
	You guys just BS the whole time.
	I want some lasagna now.
	Yeah.
	Well, I always want Italian food, so, you know.
	We know that about you!
	We know.
	Okay.
	All righty, 20 seconds, stand by.
	Standing by.
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	So we just have fun with Joe Piscopo.
	We don't get to anything serious.
	We just have fun.
	Is that bad, Chad?
	Is that bad that we just kind of have fun?
	Everybody needs a break every once in a while.
	I like that.
	I see that as a kind of spiritual break.
	I think it's okay.
	You know, he's such a fun guy.
	So why not?
	Let's go to your calls.
	833-333-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Waiting very, very patiently.
	833-GAUKER.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Waiting very, very patiently.
	Bill, New Jersey, line two.
	Thank you, Dr. Gaukert.
	God bless you for telling the truth.
	You know, it's very nice.
	And by the way, your British accent is calm and it's appreciated.
	Is it still?
	Is it still there?
	Because people give me stick back in the UK.
	They say you're an American now.
	I don't care what they say.
	Welcome here.
	Thank you.
	It's nice that people are outraged because of Mr. Cuomo's inappropriate behavior with women.
	OK, but can we please Please talk about the over 15,000 innocent seniors Mr. Cuomo killed when he deliberately sent virus patients into their homes because, Doctor, he did not want to give President Trump credit for providing the hospital ship Hope and the Javits Center.
	And by the way, Mr. Murphy, Governor Murphy of New Jersey, where I am, Mr. Wolf, The governor of Pennsylvania, who, before he sent virus patients in, his health director pulled his own nine-year-old mother out and then sent the virus patients in.
	I know, I know.
	And the point you make is fascinating, Bill.
	The fact that there was a hospital ship there sent by Donald Trump that they refused to use, and instead, Cuomo sent those people to their deaths.
	That's why I am fascinated a man who doesn't use exaggeration, doesn't use hyperbole, like Jersey Joe Piscopo said, he could still be in big criminal trouble.
	So Bill, let's hold the line because we could finally see some justice.
	Let's talk about accents.
	We've got somebody who's called us from the UK.
	He'll tell me whether I sound like an American or not.
	Ken, are you there?
	Yes, I'm here.
	In actual fact, To put on a very upper-class accent.
	Actually, old boy, you do sound rather British, I'm afraid.
	Oh, that's not bad at all.
	Thank you, thank you, you good fellow.
	Bloody marvellous, old boy, bloody marvellous.
	Cheers, I much appreciated it.
	I'll see you in the club later.
	We'll have some gin and tonics, okay?
	Oh, absolutely, gin and tonic.
	Now, obviously, you couldn't hear me very well on the mobile.
	I don't know what you could hear, so I'll just repeat myself.
	Yeah, tell it.
	We've got like 90 seconds.
	We're so excited you called it.
	Tell us about Donald Trump in the UK.
	I'm so curious what you told Jeff.
	Yes, what it basically is, is he's far more popular than he's made out over here.
	We've got a little, for want of a better phrase, an underground group.
	It's about 5,000 of us.
	And we're all Trump supporters, etc.
	But the main thing is, with all this damn woke If you like pseudo-communism that's going on over here, woke lefties as such.
	We all speak together in little underground groups on the internet.
	What do you call yourself?
	The Bulldogs?
	The Tommies?
	You've got to have a name, Ken.
	Bulldogs is probably the best.
	British Bulldogs.
	I love it.
	Yeah, but no.
	It's the first time I've even found your show on the internet, because obviously, as I've said before, God bless you.
	We love Mike Graham on Talk Radio.
	He's another truth teller.
	I knew it.
	It's why Brexit happened, because of people like you and your 5,000 buddies.
	Having listened to it for the first time and the sense of very sensible people that are calling in.
	Well, you've got another regular listener.
	So listen, Ken, God bless you.
	We love Mike Graham on talk radio.
	He's another truth teller.
	I knew it.
	It's why Brexit happened because of people like you and your 5,000 buddies.
	You can't keep the British spirit down.
	Stay on the line.
	We're gonna, we're gonna send across the pond a signed copy of The War for America's Soul because it's very similar as the war for the soul of the United Kingdom.
	We got callers everywhere because that's who we are.
	Thank you, Ken.
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	Man, I had my Wheaties today or something.
	Yeah, I know.
	You got a little fire.
	You ready to take that fire?
	For Hungary?
	I'm ready.
	He's armed.
	I had like seven hours sleep, so I think that's it.
	Wow, a rare occurrence.
	I know, I know.
	I can't remember the last time I had that much sleep.
	Why, how much do you sleep?
	I usually get like maybe six hours of sleep.
	For a young kid, that's more than enough.
	I usually don't go to bed until like around midnight, half past midnight, maybe one.
	How about you, Geoff?
	How much do you sleep?
	Six and a half.
	On average, six.
	Six and a half, it depends.
	You don't sleep, right Shad?
	I get anything under seven and a half hours and I can't function.
	Oh really?
	Yeah, I think it's partially because I'm sick.
	I've been sick for a long time.
	More balance of nature.
	I said, Shad's gonna be using all the products of the show by the end of this month.
	Except when I stay up late with my YouTube recommendations, I get mad.
	That's what keeps me awake.
	Frank Luntz did this 40 minute thing with Frontline.
	He is such a swamp.
	He starts off by saying that, first of all, here's what you need to do this.
	In November of 15, he went to Mitch McConnell's office and he called an emergency meeting with the senior senators to say that Trump was going to win the nomination unless they stop him right now.
	Kevin McCarthy's roommate, everybody.
	On that note, Jersey Joe is reading my mind, man, because I was just thinking, literally the only Republican in leadership I trust in either house is Scalise.
	Yeah, I love Scalise.
	I don't trust McCarthy, McConnell, none of them.
	Scalise is the only one who gets it.
	In leadership, yeah.
	He really should be.
	If he was the one who would be the next speaker, I think Republicans would be way more excited.
	Kind of want a guy like that in WHIP, though.
	I mean, McCarthy would be fine as whip.
	I'm sure.
	He knows how to keep people in line, clearly.
	But Scalise excites the base, you know?
	Especially because it's number three in line for succession, you know?
	That's always something important to keep in mind.
	45 seconds.
	Do they have California Boys State, Eric?
	Did you do that?
	California what?
	Boys State.
	You know about this?
	No, I can't say I've heard of that.
	It's the American Legion.
	They do this thing where they take juniors in high school and like every state in America has one where they do a mock government and they like run for office and stuff.
	Like a model UN kind of thing?
	Yeah, but it's more like based on local politics.
	And then they take the top five and they send them to Washington, D.C. and they do Boys Nation.
	I wish I could have done that.
	Obama famously was president of Boys Nation and shook Bill Clinton's hand at Boys Nation.
	Huh.
	Interesting.
	But no, five seconds.
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	Why are conservatives suddenly in love with Hungary?
	I mean, Hungary's been around for 1,000 years.
	Yeah, 1,000 years as a country, thanks to St.
	Stephen.
	And now?
	Now, America?
	Because Tucker goes there for four days, you find Hungary?
	And I'm getting texts from my buddies saying I'm moving there right now?
	I've looked into tickets?
	Now, I love the country of my parents' birth.
	It's beautiful, it truly is.
	The capital, Budapest, the Paris of the East.
	Culture, art, history, the Hungarian revolution against communism, the 150 years of Turkish occupation, and then defeating the Turks.
	Fabulous, love it.
	Ottoman Empire, Hungarians, Christian nation.
	Nah, not as simple as you might think in the last few years.
	Orban Victor.
	Or as the Anglo-Saxon world says, Victor Orban, the Prime Minister.
	Such a hero?
	Really?
	Well, he's done some truly impressive things.
	He told the European Union, sod off, I'm building a border wall.
	I'm not having refugees come across this border who aren't refugees.
	I am having national sovereignty.
	When he won two thirds of the parliament allowing him to change the constitution, he changed the constitution to explicitly state Hungary is a Christian nation built on Judeo-Christian principles.
	Again, making the EU very mad.
	I love it.
	Excellent.
	But I know, Viktor Orbán.
	In a past life, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, I moved to Hungary to help that nation dig itself out of 40 years of communism.
	At the age of 23, I became an advisor to the Deputy Defense Minister of the first freely elected post-communist government in a conservative administration.
	And then, I became one of three national security advisors to a small opposition party called the Young Democrats, run by Viktor Orban, that was at 7%.
	I've seen the sausage factory from the inside.
	Now, to give him full credit, this man, as a student, was a brave, brave man.
	Under communism it was him who dared in public when there was a ceremonial reburial of the free Hungarian Prime Minister Imre Nagy murdered by the Russians in 1956.
	At that national event in front of live television cameras He was the first person to publicly say, Russki Khoza.
	The Soviets must leave our country.
	No more occupation.
	That was while the Berlin Wall existed.
	That was at the height of the Cold War.
	So kudos to him back then.
	But since becoming a very successful politician in post-communist Hungary, and since becoming really a Prime Minister who is untouchable as the other parties collapsed in internal rivalry and incompetence, he's become one of the most corrupt politicians in Europe.
	How do I know that?
	Look up the name Lőrinc Mészáros.
	Or maybe not, because it's hard to spell.
	This is a lifelong buddy of Viktor's, who was a pipe fitter.
	A pipe fitter from the village next to the village where Viktor grew up.
	This man is now the richest man in Hungary, despite really not knowing anything about business.
	And not being able to string a sentence together very effectively in public.
	According to Forbes magazine, he's worth 1.3 billion dollars.
	Now, in Hungary, yeah, that's pretty impressive.
	How did a pipefitter, who doesn't know about business, get there?
	Oh, I don't know.
	Because he owns the second largest power plant in Hungary, thanks to the Hungarian government, that produces 15% of the country's electricity.
	Radio stations, newspapers, under his holding company Opimus, which is now the biggest media empire in the country.
	Or perhaps the fact that he now owns 81.5% of the Hungarian Foreign Trade Bank.
	And then recently won two government contracts funded by the Hungarian taxpayer to run the Paksz nuclear power plant and the Budapest-Belgrade railway.
	Not bad for a pipe fitter.
	Not bad at all.
	The fact that he's bosom buddies and a straw man for a Prime Minister has nothing to do with it.
	So, life is complicated.
	Haters are gonna hate.
	But let's have a little bit of sophistication in our understanding of other countries.
	Yes, it's great to avow your Christian heritage.
	To stand up to the bullies and the crypto-communists in Brussels and elsewhere.
	But that doesn't excuse rampant, filthy corruption.
	Because that's not conservative, and it certainly isn't Christian.
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	Young Democrats.
	Young what?
	Democrats?
	Yeah, as opposed to communists.
	That's, you know, in that part of the world... Democrats isn't a dirty word.
	How do you pronounce the name of the current party?
	Uh, so now it's a contraction.
	It used to be FIDES, which means Young Soviet Schig, Young Democrats, Young Alliance.
	Now they've, they've just, it's just FIDES.
	It's just the acronym as, as the name of the party.
	Got it.
	That Z at the end was throwing me off with pronunciation.
	S-Z is S in Hungarian.
	Got it.
	Thank you.
	Alright.
	I assume you want to post that?
	Yeah.
	What do you want to call it?
	The truth about Hungary today.
	How about Orban's Hungary?
	Orban's Hungary?
	Yeah, the truth about Orban's Hungary.
	The truth about Orban's Hungary.
	Okay, good.
	The truth about Orban's Hungary.
	Just make sure to tweet it out and tag some choice folks.
	Tag Tucker, even though he never uses Twitter.
	Like every once in a blue moon he uses his Twitter.
	Right.
	That interview with him is probably going to be something, though, nevertheless.
	Do you know when that's going to air?
	Presumably because he's here for the whole week, right?
	Why the whole week thing?
	Because he's filming a documentary.
	He's there to film a documentary.
	A documentary for his Fox Nation show?
	Yeah.
	I think he's probably also doing stuff for whatever that institute is.
	Is it like the Budapest Institute?
	Oh, the Danube Institute.
	Yeah, it's probably something Danube Institute related.
	I'm sure he's speaking at it because their conference I think is still going on.
	Right, right, right.
	That's why Dennis is there.
	Yeah, 10 seconds.
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	Look And I don't understand those who are against showing proof of vaccine.
	Have they never had to show their passport, show their ID or take their kids to school?
	said Gorka.
	Let's go from the ridiculous to the seditious.
	Let's start with Stephanie Rule, who's a perfect embodiment of the establishment media.
	Cut three.
	And I don't understand those who are against showing proof of vaccine.
	Have they never had to show their passport, show their ID or take their kids to school?
	It makes no sense to me.
	Not to go to a restaurant, you cretin.
	No, I haven't had to show my ID to eat food or go to a music performance.
	I mean, she really is that stupid?
	Let's go from the cretinous to the seditious.
	This is Alexander, don't call me Sasha, or Mr. Vindman on MSNBC with a strange interpretation of history.
	Cut it!
	I had capabilities and skills that I could offer the administration to help them navigate very difficult foreign policy and diplomatic relationships.
	And I maintained my commitment to doing that and supporting the administration.
	Until the president crossed the brightest of red lines, which was attacking the very foundation of our system, which is free and fair elections and the peaceful transition of power.
	At that point, there was no... I could no longer kind of take my reverence for the office of the presidency and have that supersede my duty.
	And that's frankly what I acted on.
	I acted on my duty.
	So he acted on his duty because of President Trump's questioning of the elections and his attack on free and fair elections.
	What did you do, Sasha, when Hillary Clinton did that, the woman you voted for, for four years?
	Did you do anything?
	When they lied about the Russian bots for four years?
	I'm curious.
	I missed that part of your career.
	And by the way, nobody's ever accused me of having a small ego.
	I understand.
	I'm pretty aware of who I am, and I'm not a shy individual.
	But I'm trying to remember.
	Shad, you've got a pretty good memory.
	Have I ever publicly said on this show or elsewhere about my amazing talents?
	Have I, like in an interview, said, and I'm here to offer my amazing talents?
	Well, you probably should have, but I don't believe that you have.
	So I should be a little bit more like Vindman?
	Actually, scratch that.
	Scratch that.
	I mean, that is so peculiar.
	This pudgy little guy with his neck sticking out of his shirt that's too tight for him saying, and I had very special skills to offer the administration because I'm just so pudgy.
	These diplomatic skills.
	Ukrainians just relate to me.
	I don't know what it is.
	I look like a little stay puffed marshmallow man.
	That's my special skill.
	Maybe I should try that.
	No, on second thoughts, I'm not a seditious little... like that man.
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	Thank you.
	Thank you. - Welcome dear friends to this special edition.
	It's our new one-on-one with America First, where we give you, we give me, because I love the long form, an opportunity to dive deeper on a specific issue, but with one guest who is uniquely positioned to do that and to get him to introduce, or herself, to introduce themselves to you, so you get to know them even better.
	In the case of the Baron, you know him very well.
	Not only is he a regular on American First every week, he is also our co-host for our Battle for 1600 podcast, where we've been just documenting everything that's been happening in the MAGA world, and especially thanks to his phrase, the freight train of audits.
	But now we get a whole hour with just the Baron Boris Epstein, Welcome to One on One.
	It is great to be here.
	I did my baronial wave.
	The baronial wave.
	I'm excited to be here and excited to see you in person, my friend.
	It's wonderful.
	Not always great to be in the swamp, but it's wonderful to be here with you.
	You have been hiding out in beautiful locations for several months, Skyping into the show, comrexing into the show, but that's OK.
	He's got to check into the swamp just to make sure that we're doing all right.
	OK, Boris, let's start.
	For those who've just tuned in, Just heard about one-to-one or just stopped the dial where we are right now.
	What is your story?
	Who is the Baron?
	Who is Boris?
	Where did he come from and what has he done?
	Wow!
	I love this!
	Is that fun?
	That is really fun.
	Well, it was a beautiful day in August 1982.
	You know, we've had a... my family and I... You're so young!
	You're disgustingly young!
	Well, it's the hairline belies it.
	Yeah, it has been a wonderful and a truly American story and and one that I am incredibly incredibly proud of.
	We came here as immigrants when I was 11.
	We're Jewish refugees from the former Soviet Union, from Moscow.
	From Moscow.
	I was born in Moscow.
	No Eric Swalwell, President Swalwell.
	I am not a spy.
	No shifty shifty.
	We're gonna talk about that later.
	We're gonna talk about Swalwell's embarrassing behavior with you, but let's talk about the Barons.
	And so we came here when I was 11.
	It was me, my parents, my dad's mom and dad, and my mom's mom.
	So the six of us came together to New York, to this beautiful country.
	And I'll never forget our first days.
	And coming from the rubble of the Soviet Union, the absolutely destroyed and damaged, you know, crush of what socialism and communism left behind.
	And to see what America was.
	And this resurgence that, you know, really was happening in the early 90s in New York, thanks to Rudy Giuliani.
	So when were you cognizant?
	When did you start?
	At what age were you aware of what was going on around you?
	So what age?
	You arrived here at age?
	He was kidding me when I was 11.
	So you actually, you know, you know the contrast.
	Oh, a thousand percent.
	I was, in 91.
	In 91, when I was eight years old, or going to be nine years old in August, I guess I'd just turned nine, I lived through the attempted coup in Moscow.
	Guys, tanks.
	We're talking about tanks going down the street in Moscow, if you don't remember that.
	If you want to see a real insurrection, that's an insurrection.
	Not like a bunch of guys in funny hats sitting in a chair, you know what I mean?
	Or walking through looking at these statues.
	And not touching the art of the statues, being very careful.
	There's tanks and there's mortars being shot and buildings being shelled in Moscow.
	You know, we lived that.
	We lived, you know, we had a tiny little cottage, a wooden cottage outside of Moscow.
	I was there with my grandparents.
	My parents were in the city.
	We couldn't talk, you know, the phones were out and then Swan Lake was playing on every year.
	They only had three TV stations.
	Gorby was ill.
	Yeah, and he was ill in the caucuses.
	So, You know, we lived that.
	We lived what that destruction of the end of the Soviet Union was, and it was very scary on a, you know, sort of macro basis, but it was also scary to micro base a crime that took over Moscow.
	I was worried about my dad coming home at night.
	I was that little kid looking out the window.
	Who were your parents?
	What did they do?
	My parents were both scientists.
	My dad is an applied math PhD.
	My mom's a geologist.
	So what happened to you?
	You know, I guess, well, here's the explanation.
	When we came here, my dad ended up working with a company that worked with Princeton University and then ended up going to those Bell Labs.
	As a scientist.
	Yeah, and actually my dad, I'm very proud, helped design 4G and then 5G.
	You never said that!
	For Verizon, yeah, it's pretty great.
	Wow!
	It's pretty cool, yeah.
	So he was telling me about all the things 5G was going to be able to do even, you know, while it was being designed.
	And then my mom, when we got here, you know, not a lot of need for geologists, you know, who are just learning English.
	And when, you know, and my mom is so smart and so entrepreneurial.
	You know, dad's academic and so smart and kind and easygoing.
	My mom is a fighter.
	and and and she will do anything for her family and she's so driven and so when we came here.
	A woman from the Rodina.
	We came here, you know, she looked for jobs anywhere.
	You know, she cleaned toilets at a hospital, right?
	She tried selling perfume.
	She looked at everything.
	And then finally, when we bought our first home in the Princeton area, she talked to the realtor.
	And, you know, in her own English, she said, you know, so how much money do you make?
	You know?
	And, you know, figured out, hey, this realtor, it is not a bad business.
	So that's what she did.
	And then she went into the real estate business.
	Now she's one of the biggest real estate professionals in the Princeton area.
	No way.
	To those in New Jersey, Anna Shilkina, you know.
	You want to buy a house in Princeton?
	She's your woman.
	Billboards on Route 1.
	What's the name of the company?
	It's Anna Shulkina Real Estate in Princeton, New Jersey.
	If you need to buy a house, sell a house anywhere in New Jersey, but specifically Princeton area, she's your woman.
	She's got a great team with her and she's been unbelievably successful.
	And I will tell you, just yesterday, I'm driving down Route 1 coming here.
	I was driving back to D.C.
	and I look on the right and it's a huge billboard with my mom on it.
	Are you serious?
	It made me swell with pride.
	I was just so... That's fabulous!
	I hope you stopped and photographed it.
	Every time.
	And then I sing little songs.
	I get so excited.
	It's really great.
	And you know, I think a lot of my entrepreneurial perspective and business perspective does come from that.
	And then, you know, the politics and the history, my grandfather, my dad's dad was a history professor.
	- Right. - I've talked about him a lot.
	He was a World War II hero.
	- Yes. - And somebody who had studied the ins and outs of everything from the Greeks, the Romans, all the way obviously to the currents.
	So, I remember even growing up, I was very, always very interested in history and current affairs, political affairs, and I would sit and talk to Grandpa about, you know, what's going on with, you know, the interplay between China and Iran, even in the, you know, in the 90s and the early 2000s.
	So, you know, a lot of that interest comes from being very close with my grandfather, and I named my son after my grandfather, which I'm very proud to have done.
	And, you know, people say, well, you know, we'll do it.
	So, that's their story.
	That's how you get here as a kid.
	How does the baron become the baron?
	That's been a real treasure and a real gift. - So that's their story.
	That's how you get here as a kid.
	How does the baron become the baron?
	Let's talk about your professional life. - Well, you know, it has been varied.
	It has been a very much a curvy road, right?
	And even currently, you know, if people ask me what I do and then in the end I come up with some... You come on my show.
	I'm the baron.
	That's what it's about.
	What do you do?
	I say, I'm the baron.
	You better have some business cards sooner or later.
	The baron.
	Have you ever seen my actual business cards?
	No!
	I've only known you for how many years.
	Okay, here's the business card that I give to folks when I say hello.
	That is stylish.
	Guys, for those of you who are not watching, it's just Boris Epstein Esquire.
	And his details at the back.
	It's just, it's old school and it's good stock.
	It's like, you know, it's quality stock.
	I'm going to keep this as a little memento.
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	So, it's my second favorite business card.
	First, of course, the White House business card.
	This is my second.
	The point being, I, you know, I'm always involved in so many different things.
	Everybody says, what do you do?
	You know, I'm a consultant and, you know, I've got the political, I've got the business, I've got the, you know, the growth and development consulting that I do for companies, the corporate consulting.
	It's been a very, very windy road and an exciting road.
	I went to middle school, went to high school in the Princeton area, ended up at Swarthmore College, which is a smaller broad school, for a year and then transferred to Georgetown.
	I've always wanted to go to Georgetown School of Foreign Service.
	And ended up going to Georgetown School of Foreign Service, finished that, went to law school, and then, just like every good Jewish law student, was gonna go be a lawyer.
	So I got a job on Wall Street at a great firm called Milbank, Tweed Hadley McCloy, one of the top old, no Jews there 40 years ago, but they got some Jews in now.
	So, a really great, great, great, great law firm, but it just was not for me.
	Sitting there every single day in bank finance, I knew very quickly this was not a long-term proposition.
	So, Boris, he's graduated, he's working at a law company, a prestigious one.
	I'm curious, because I had a very similar experience.
	My first job out of college was in the City of London.
	I was in Corporate Intelligence, Business Intelligence.
	And I detested it.
	I just detested it.
	Why wasn't that law firm for you?
	Or the law work not for you?
	I'm sure it was the same thing.
	Just the mundane nature of it.
	And frankly, the set schedule of it, right?
	That, oh, you've got to be here at nine, you're going to be here until six, or as a lawyer, a lot of times, much, much, much, much later than six.
	And frankly, I felt like the lawyers were some of the smartest guys, and they also got paid the least.
	Because, you know, people think, oh, well, corporate lawyer.
	If you're a corporate lawyer in New York, you're making, especially if you're not a partner, you're making okay money, but it is by no means You know, a lot of money.
	And the amount of time you put in, per hour, you're not doing that great.
	And it really was not for me.
	I absolutely detested it.
	So I quickly, within a year, took a sabbatical to be on the McCain campaign.
	Wow!
	And I'll tell you, a lot of the partners at the law firm were a little surprised, because most first-year associates... Yeah, do not do that!
	You don't take sabbaticals!
	I don't take a sabbatical.
	Yeah, I'm taking a sabbatical.
	Excuse me?
	See you guys.
	So how did that come about?
	How did you get an invitation to be on a campaign?
	I'd gotten to know a very, very nice woman in New York.
	Her name's Crystal Kelly Fisher.
	She was a big backer of John McCain, Senator McCain, in 2000 and then in 2008.
	And then I literally started helping her phone bank in, I think, late 2007.
	I decided that he was likely to be the nominee.
	And remember, that was an interesting race.
	It was Rudy.
	It was Huckabee, it was Romney for a time, and then it was McCain, but it became kind of obvious toward the end of 07 that McCain was going to be the nominee, and I started helping.
	I helped in New York while still being in the law firm, and they needed somebody to come to DC.
	Did the bug bite you then?
	I'm not going to say that the bug fully bit me, but it definitely interested me.
	It was exhilarating.
	So I came to D.C.
	and a week later I was off to Alaska.
	I was one of the first people on the ground when Governor Palin was named to be the vice presidential nominee.
	And it was surreal in a lot of ways.
	I got to know her family and I handled a lot of the crises that popped up.
	Sort of called me the fixer.
	I had a black Taurus and a black leather jacket.
	Boris the Figster.
	Boris the Figster, Anchorage, Alaska, and then I went to Fairbanks to figure out where her first, her first, I remember she had this, I think it was Charlie, I think it was Charlie Rowe, no, it was Charlie Gibson.
	He did an interview with her walking along a pipeline.
	I staffed that, figured out where that was going to be advanced.
	And you'd done that so many times before.
	Oh, a million times.
	Staffed her, interviewed her.
	My whole life, my whole life.
	I knew exactly what I was doing.
	No.
	And that's the beauty of politics, the beauty of campaigns.
	Somebody told me on that show, it's command and control.
	If you tell people you know what to do, and if you do it with some level of competency, they're going to keep going to you because there's not a lot of that.
	And all campaigns are a hodgepodge of people who come from all over the place.
	Some are from the candidate's home state.
	Others are from the party.
	Even others are from the current administration, in that case the Bush administration.
	It was just a hodgepodge of people and very exciting.
	So that excitement definitely did bite me, I'm not going to lie to you.
	And it was a great time, the camaraderie of it.
	And then the disappointment of loss was tough too, right?
	In 08, that was a tough election.
	I've said it since I believe in it.
	We could have had God as president, God as vice president.
	There's no way we're going to win that election as a Republican in 08.
	Because it's a black president for the Democrats.
	And because the worst economic recession in history has just hit.
	The 08 crash.
	W. Bush was at 20% and you had a mixed race candidate who really tapped into this belief of people, who by the way, you know, I was just at lunch earlier today and something that really I've been thinking about and discussed is how quiet and sort of, you know, non-present Obama has been.
	I mean, people thought when he was president this was going to be a historic figure that truly is omnipresent throughout his lifetime, right?
	And he's sort of been missing in action, except for this dumb party that he's going to have, which is just the millionth example of Democrats' elitism and hypocrisy.
	But yeah, so that was '08.
	We lost, I went back to the law firm, really couldn't be a lawyer anymore.
	And then '09, the law world, that was in bank finance, not much work going around.
	So I said, "Hey, you guys are giving out packages to leave and I'll take, I will happily get laid off and take my package." And I was, gosh, it was '09, I was 26 years old and I thought, "Oh, I'll get another job just like that." Except it's the worst recession since the Great Depression, okay?
	And I was getting married that November to my beautiful wife, so it was quite the time, but you know what?
	I figured it out.
	I went and found a group to go into finance with, and grew that, bought it, merged it with another group, and grew the combination, and then, Do you know Alexander Priet?
	Very well.
	So Priet is a very good friend of mine and she's a wonderful person and I hope she gets to hear this.
	She's just, you know, really somebody who's so warm and kind.
	I knew her a little bit during the campaign in Norway and then I, after we lost, I was sitting with her and another common friend of ours in New York and she said, you know, We need some people to go on to start going on tv for foxnews.com with that called strategy room who are in New York.
	Would you want to do it?
	And of course with me every I always say yeah yeah sure right I remember one quick story you know having my dad working with a company that worked with Princeton University The way he got there was we had a family friend, old family friend of ours, who was a very noted scientist.
	Physicist.
	Very noted.
	And very smart and a great chess player.
	And he would have these fun get-togethers for all the brainiacs of Princeton, especially the Russian-Jewish, because a lot of folks, as you can imagine, Princeton University, the brain drain, there's a lot of Russian-Jewish immigrants.
	Who like chess.
	So I was, you know, 13, 14 years old, and this guy, his name's Victor, and he said, you want to play chess?
	I said, sure, we'll play chess.
	And we start playing chess, and after about four minutes, he goes, Boris, you have no idea how to play, do you?
	So I'm figuring it out, okay?
	And, you know, the sort of don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness has been a mantra of mine for a long time.
	So I did this ending on TV.
	Sure, I'll go on TV!
	Can you play chess now, at least?
	I'm proficient at chess.
	Good.
	I'm proficient.
	I can play pretty well.
	Who was Priet working for back then that she asked you to do that stuff for Fox?
	I think she just had a relationship with Fox.
	Oh, with Fox.
	And then she knew that they needed more guests.
	So you're dropped into TV?
	So she dropped me.
	And my first appearance ever was, I think it was Geraldo, Bowling, and Kimberly Guilfoyle.
	Right?
	You know?
	And, you know, it was my first thing ever.
	And then from then on, I started doing more and more and more and got on Fox and Friends.
	So that was a direct result of being on McCain.
	And that one I never expected.
	What's your label?
	Are you a, were you a GOP strategist?
	Exactly.
	A McCain, okay, okay.
	GOP strategist, former McCain Palin aide.
	Got it.
	Is what they would hire me, and I would go on there, and I would pontificate on all kinds of issues, and listen, we've all got opinions, and I've got opinions, and I, you know, have a bearing in history that I'm proud of, and so I would, you know, I would relay that and have a great time.
	I went on with, you know, before Sally passed away, I went on with Combs, remember, of Hannity and Combs.
	He would host and I went on with him.
	So it was really an experience.
	Then, yeah, and I went, so it was Strategy, which was foxnews.com.
	They were sort of a precursor to all the online TV stuff.
	And then I went on Fox Main.
	I think I did my first Fox and Friends in 09.
	And so it really grew that, you know, the, you know, I guess surrogate work or political analyst work from there, the pundit work.
	And obviously we're still doing it right now, right?
	So when do you get back into politics, back into campaigning?
	What's your next official...?
	Romney.
	So, I wasn't involved in the primary, but then when Mitt Romney became the nominee, I was a surrogate for the Mitt Romney campaign, and I did the Bill Maher show for the first time then, which was quite an experience.
	Oh my gosh, you gotta talk to us about that.
	I'm fascinated.
	Alright, in the meantime, he's Boris Epstein, follow Boris EP on Twitter, Boris underscore Epstein on Instagram, and also!
	Add Boris EP on Getter!
	Okay, always remember that, gotta add the Getter.
	Okay, so, did I even know this?
	Bill Maher, really?
	Bill Maher, twice.
	You gotta tell me about this.
	Including since I've known you.
	Wow.
	First time in 12, I think, two or three weeks before election day.
	And I was on the panel.
	I was the Republican on the panel.
	Who else was on the show?
	It was Goldie Taylor, who is a very far left-wing zealot, I guess let's put it that way, right?
	And then it was him, and then it was Matt Taibbi from Rolling Stone at the time.
	So were you trepidatious, or was it just the Barons gonna do some TV with the lefty?
	Gonna go do some TV, gonna go have a good time, maybe one shot of whiskey before starting to fully get some courage and get it rolling.
	And it was great.
	How did he treat you?
	I've done it twice and I will say it, Bill's been nothing but a gentleman, been very courteous.
	Did he get heated around the table?
	Goldie Taylor and I got heated with each other, but he was not heated with me at all.
	And that was 12, and you know, I said my points, and it was a little bit of, there was too much talking over each other.
	It was a little bit too much of that.
	That was 12.
	The next time I did was 17 after I left the White House, and he had me on, and it was one-on-one, so I was the top of the show.
	And a lot of my folks came with me.
	It's great, you know, it's fun.
	Did he want you to dish?
	He knew I would not dish.
	It was very clear I wouldn't dish.
	He pried a little bit, but it was honestly, he I think Has a little bit of a tough time getting leading Republican folks, right?
	So he's, it's a show, right?
	He wants to keep the show going.
	So he actually kind of, I had much tougher and much more in your face interviews with Chris Bromo, right?
	Or, you know, or, you know, or Lawrence O'Donnell, which I've all done.
	Then, you know, it was kind of, you know, it was pretty straightforward.
	It was one-on-one.
	My folks came, they were in the audience.
	Were they proud?
	They were proud.
	My dad was nervous.
	Oh yeah?
	Because it is sort of the lion's den, right?
	But I've done it before.
	What are their politics, if I may ask?
	They're my, you know, I think as all immigrants who come here and work hard and believe in opportunity and believe in the greatness of America, they are as MAGA as they get.
	Right.
	So they were trepidatious because this is the lion's den.
	And I just started at Sinclair, so there were going to be some questions about Sinclair.
	And with fairness to the show, they told me what the topics were.
	He stuck to the topics.
	Good.
	And if you look at the show, there's one kind of funny thing.
	I've got to watch this.
	I've got to watch this.
	I'm going to find these videos and watch them later tonight.
	It's a fun clip.
	So at one point, he says something to me about Donald Trump.
	And I said, how was it to work for the president?
	And I said, honestly, that he's authentic.
	He's kind.
	He's supportive.
	He's positive.
	That President Trump was the best boss I've ever worked for.
	And I felt it then.
	I feel this way now.
	I'm sure I'll feel that way till my last breath.
	I could not be more, and I know you feel the same way, could not be more honored and proud To have worked for and to continue to be supportive of, supporting President Trump.
	And the crowd kind of booed a little bit, and I looked around and said, I bet 50%, or I said, I think, I bet at least 30 or 50% of you voted for Trump.
	And every, and they all broke out in laughter.
	It was a nice, it was a nice easy moment.
	I did get a good piece of advice going into that show, and I will, whoever's listening and thinking of doing any sort of media work, I think this is something to carry with you.
	Smile.
	Somebody said to me, just smile.
	Yes.
	You know, to, even though it's, if it's a tough interview, you know it's gonna be tough, You skipped a bit.
	I did.
	So 12, I was a surrogate for Romney, and that came out of having done a ton of TV.
	we fast forward a little bit, but that's my Bill Maher story.
	If you, if anybody skipped a bit, I did.
	So 12, I was a, I was a surrogate for Romney.
	Right.
	And that came out of having done a ton of TV between 08 and 12.
	I did CNN a ton, MSNBC a ton, Fox, a good amount, obviously the foxnews.com.
	So, you know, when it came time for the campaign, I had some good friends who, um, you know, who were very senior in the Romney campaign, you know, good Republicans, people who had been in the Republican, in the Republican world.
	So, So, up there, We lost again, so I was 0-2, and then I went back to my business, to the investment banking side.
	And then how did you get involved with the winner?
	I have to tell you that the best decision ever made was I never backed another candidate.
	From the moment that the president ran and from the moment I could help, I came out.
	I was a public supporter.
	Then I became an official surrogate for the campaign, which you sign an agreement to agree to be a surrogate.
	You know, just as it happens in campaigns, just like that, I went from being a guy on the phone calls as one of the surrogates to a guy leading the phone calls.
	And, you know, I'm honored to say that the president noted and appreciated some of my work out there.
	Because, you know, I was one of those folks who went into all the battles.
	So if you look at the TV of June, July, August 16th, I mean, Khazir Khan, boom, I was there talking about how he's just being a political pawn, which is not proven, by the way, Biden just gave Khazir Khan some appointment, right?
	Yes.
	All those issues.
	I was right out there defending the president, defending our position.
	And, you know, just like the loyal, supportive boss that he is, he saw through that and gave me the opportunity to advance.
	And I became a senior advisor overseeing all surrogate messaging.
	And, you know, I had the honor of traveling with him, went around the country, opened for him at a rally in 16.
	I've got a great picture of that from Ohio.
	And, you know, we all know the historic result.
	And then he ends up, along with me, in the White House, Special Assistant to the President.
	We're talking to Boris Epstein, at Boris EP on Twitter, Boris underscore Epstein on Instagram, and don't forget Getter as well.
	So, um, let's, I could do this for hours, because, you know, how many years have I known you?
	Gosh, it's been a while.
	Five years?
	It's been a while.
	It's been a while.
	And I'm learning a lot of stuff.
	And we've been friends for that much time.
	You've been on my show.
	You've hosted my radio show.
	You've co-hosted a podcast.
	I'm learning stuff and it's fascinating.
	So let's pull out.
	Let's go up to 50,000 feet.
	Let's talk about the last five years.
	You are a political animal, clearly.
	You love this country.
	You have a great You always bring to our discussion, sooner or later, for just some reason, it's like a geyser bubbling up through the surface.
	You bring up this historical perspective that is super, super helpful, your love of history.
	So talk to us about what happened in 2016.
	According to the Baron.
	And what is the impact?
	How much?
	Because I think Mike Flynn was right when he called 16 a peaceful revolution.
	How much has politics changed?
	And what do you expect in the near future in terms of the way it's going to shake out?
	I think the Republican Party changed.
	And likely forever.
	Because what went from being a country club Republican Party, you know, funny polo shirt Republican Party.
	Bow ties, blazers.
	Is now a populist, nationalist in a good way.
	Working class.
	Working class, pro-America Republican Party.
	And the lines are drawn so clearly.
	Between those who stand for the American flag and those who don't.
	Between those who believe there are genders that should be assigned at birth and those who do not.
	Between those who want to fight back against China and those who do not.
	So the Republican Party has actually enriched itself and grown itself because of President Donald J. Trump.
	I'm curious, let me just jump in here.
	Is this exactly the same?
	How different is this from what Reagan did?
	Because Reagan got a lot of blue-collar Democrats on his side.
	Are we seeing a return to that or is there something qualitatively different?
	It's different in some ways.
	It's different in that Reagan's appeal was that let's just, it was a Kumbaya appeal.
	You know, let's all come together, and that's possible, and it was possible at the time.
	Bright morning, bright colors.
	It's a beautiful morning in America.
	Let's feel good about each other.
	Let's come together, and that's how you, and he won 49 states, and actually from, I've heard from good sources, 50 states, except, you know, the dead voted in northern Minnesota.
	Again.
	Again, right.
	So, There's not a lot of kumbaya now.
	That was Reagan's appeal and he was able to do it.
	The country's become so divided and that divide really started in a big way during the Clinton years.
	You think it wasn't Obama?
	I think it was the deep divide because think about the the impeachment at the time which actually looking backward I think probably was not the right it was not necessary Not smart because it led to the cheapening of impeachment that we just saw happen.
	Yes, absolutely.
	You know, under the absolutely, you know, devoid of any reality Pelosi.
	So if you look at what happened there, the divide started there because the country was very, think about how Bush was vilified.
	People forget that, how President Bush, W. Bush, was vilified, vilified.
	And they treated him not as bad as they treated Donald Trump, but pretty bad, okay?
	Nazis as well.
	Blah blah blah.
	War criminal.
	The whole thing.
	And that didn't happen as much.
	There was some of that on the fringe.
	So the Reagan, there was still an opportunity to truly come together.
	I think what President Trump did is he brought out of the shadows the forgotten man and woman.
	The silent majority.
	Betrayed by both sides of the swamp.
	Betrayed by the Uniparty.
	Betrayed by the Uniparty.
	Yeah.
	All they care about is going along to get along, and if it's better to deal with China, let's deal with China.
	President Trump brought people from Alabama to northern Michigan and all, you know, to Oregon and Washington, and all in the middle.
	He brought them out and said, I'm your guy.
	That's what it is.
	It was the ability, and, you know, people love people, of a billionaire, of a blue-collar billionaire, to say, I'm your guy.
	Believe in me as I believe in you, and let's go together and let's gain power back in this country.
	And that happened in 2016, and then I think the swamp bit back and stole the election in 2020.
	I've said this on the radio show, and I want to say it again for those who are tuning in for the first time.
	For me, the pivotal moment when he won the election was that rally or maybe the RNC convention.
	I think he said it before the convention when he said, what's her slogan?
	Oh, I'm with her.
	Right.
	Do you know what mine is?
	I'm with you.
	I mean, that ultimate jujitsu of the cult worshipping the nominee on the left in Hillary Vice, the man who says, I'm just here for you guys.
	That was like, deal, done, he's won.
	I think he, as was expected.
	Donald Trump, the man that Americans knew for a long time, went out there and said, just as you pointed out, I am with you.
	I'm with the American people.
	I don't need this.
	You know, it is not my life's goal to do that.
	I'm famous already, thank you.
	I'm rich and famous.
	I'm rich and famous.
	I'm cool.
	Look at my life, okay?
	I'm cool.
	But I'm doing this for you because I believe in my country.
	I cannot stand the Orandeal as an example.
	I'm doing this.
	And I think in a lot of ways that is reminiscent of Teddy Roosevelt.
	You know, somebody who really was larger than life, loves this country.
	And somebody asked you recently, you know, who is the heir apparent in the MAGA movement?
	And obviously, you know, it makes sense to say Don Jr.
	is a potential heir apparent.
	But if you look at the larger-than-life figures in American history, I guess there's the guys who are bubbling up, right, of the history.
	Look at Lincoln.
	Look at Teddy Roosevelt.
	Look at FDR.
	And then, you know, in some ways, LBJ, I think Kennedy's tough to say because he's so short, LBJ and Reagan, there's never been really a A logical heir apparent.
	If you look at all of them, there was nobody who grabbed the mantle and said, That's fascinating.
	I'm next.
	Yeah, each one of them was their own man.
	Was very much their own.
	And represented their own thing.
	Right.
	And then what came after, some ways, was a redux to the future, to the past.
	Otherwise, it was into the future.
	But it was not, oh, I am now Lincoln number two or Teddy Roosevelt number two.
	Or Ian Reagan.
	H.W. Bush won that 88 election a thousand percent off the back of Ronald Reagan.
	Totally.
	But H.W. Bush was not.
	Jack Kemp, who was up against HW...
	for the primary, he was the more logical heir apparent to Ronald Reagan.
	Totally.
	I mean, let's be honest, as far as I'm concerned, he was a bureaucrat.
	I mean, there's no senior Bush brand.
	You don't think Bushism, right?
	And, remember, there was a bitter primary in the 80s between the two of them.
	The famous New Yorker, I paid for this mic, right?
	So, that's all very real.
	So, again, I think as we look at this time, and we are so lucky that President Trump continues to be the leader of the Republican Party, the Macca movement, and in a large way this country, it is, we need to be appreciative of having this larger-than-life leader in our historic moment.
	So, you've made general comments.
	about the future.
	Let's get a little bit more specific.
	And it's one of the so you've got a great brand.
	Now.
	I love having you on the show.
	I've caught you a couple of times recently.
	You're you're a regular guest almost every day with with Steve Bannon on his war room.
	And you got to catch him there.
	Boris is great on the war room.
	The swamp, the establishment.
	What's going to happen?
	I tweeted something out yesterday, got a lot of likes and retweets that if he runs, he wins, I think.
	Yes.
	If he wins, it's got to be radical.
	It's got to be even more radical than it was for the last four years.
	Move the DOD to Wyoming.
	Move the State Department to Kansas.
	You've got to drain the swamp.
	Get rid of the EPA.
	Get rid of the Department of Education.
	That's just the bureaucratic deep state that I witnessed, that you witnessed in the White House.
	You are right that there is an indelible change in conservative politics because there is a MAGA base, there is an America First brand.
	I am still, I look at the January 6th Select Committee, I still see a GOP establishment that either doesn't Understand what happened in 2016, or is truly convinced it is a blip, an anomaly, and it's back to business, mutual backscratching with the Democrats.
	What is your balance sheet of the establishment, conservative, let's just put our establishment, and what can be or should be done about it?
	It's all about the elections.
	We've got to elect MAGA candidates in 2022.
	Because no matter how much we think that the establishment, the rhinos are with us, you look at what happens, right?
	And then you've got Mitch McConnell, who's a stone-cold killer, all of a sudden January 6th completely misplays his hand, goes all in against President Trump, thinking, oh, Trump's done.
	Trump's done.
	And there was that, like, 72-hour period, right, after Joe Biden was like, oh, you know, we've got rid of him.
	Wrong.
	Wrong.
	But so many people said that.
	He's done.
	He's done.
	I said, Max, he's got to draw back a little bit.
	But then the second impeachment comes, and it's like, Nancy, how dumb are you?
	Completely played into our hands, played into President Trump's hands.
	So my balance sheet Is that we have got to elect MAGA conservatives, MAGA Republicans.
	But when you say we, it's not you and me.
	No, it's we Americans.
	It's not you and I that organize that.
	The GOP is the machine.
	So how do we fight the machine that has the money, that has the local offices?
	We can say, yeah, we want MAGA candidates, but there's this thing in between us and the MAGA candidates called the RNC.
	Well, in some ways, you know, both you and I, for example, in Louisville, Missouri, I'm helping your endorsed Eric Greitens, right?
	That is a candidate who the establishment is not a big fan of, right?
	And that is how we, and for those of us, that's how we impact it.
	For people at home, you support financially, you support publicly, you support these candidates.
	And it's been proven time, go back to 2010, when a lot of the old establishment Republicans lost and were taken out by the Tea Party, by Eric Cantor and others.
	That is what happens when the movement comes out and the movement is still able to make a huge difference in this country a huge difference And I think that's I think that's gonna continue to happen and we who humbly the leaders of this movement Obviously all you know under the leadership of President Trump.
	We've got to keep pushing it because if we stay silent Yeah, if we buy into the establishment, that's when we lose Are we witnessing right now?
	A Tea Party 2.0?
	Is it that simple?
	Is it that big?
	I think it's, the way I would put it is that Tea Party was a precursor to MAGA.
	I don't think, whereas, I think MAGA is bigger than the Tea Party.
	I think the MAGA movement, I mean, first of all, the Tea Party never elected a president, right?
	President Trump is MAGA.
	Second of all, the breadth of the change to the party, I think, outstrips what happened in 2010.
	One issue I have is we don't have a new Gingrich.
	We don't have that 80 pound brain on the right.
	And one of the big frailties of the last four years is we have this movement, we have this very simple idea, sovereignty, borders, prosperity, safety, got it, beautiful.
	But There is a lot of heavy lifting that needs to be done intellectually to make a movement stable.
	This happened after Reagan.
	There was a flowering of think tanks and writers and magazines and what have you.
	We don't have that.
	We've got the odd thing here and there.
	You know, the Claremont Institute has its great publication, The Review of Books.
	American Greatness, the website, superb.
	Are we not missing the big ideological heavy lifting and the people who could do that for us?
	Because we've got the leader, we've got the embodiment, we've got the grundoons, as Steve says.
	But what about the intellectual work?
	Is it being done?
	It's interesting.
	What I would say to that is we're in a different time, especially with social media, is that it's less necessary now.
	And then I think it's the grundoons, as they call it, it's the magaposse, who are themselves smart and plugged in and read.
	And the work, as you're supposed to happen with populism, is the work is being done at that level. - I like that. - And not by 80 pound brains sitting around and then going to a nice lunch, which you and I both enjoy, right?
	But it's the people on whose behalf this is being done and by whom this is being fought, who are doing the thinking and pushing the movement forward.
	And hey, with that sometimes you have some people who are on the extreme and say things that we absolutely do not agree with, right?
	But what also comes with it is an authenticity.
	That it's not a thought process that's being imposed on the so-called... Yeah, it's not an elite definition.
	It's not top-down, it's down-up.
	Yeah, that's beautiful.
	Or it's flat, and I think that's wonderful.
	Well, that's very interesting because a lot of people talk about that in the private sector.
	That's how you get things done now.
	It's got to be flat, not hierarchical.
	Amazing discussion.
	We can do hours more on this.
	We will find time to do so.
	Very pleasurable for me.
	What we're doing with these one-on-ones at the end, I ask everybody, is there something you'd like to say?
	Is there something that people should be thinking more about?
	Is there a message you wish to send out there?
	Boris, the floor is yours.
	Well, as always, The first thing I'd like to say is I'm so thankful to my parents, and I know that's not what a lot of folks will say.
	I would!
	The first thing I want to say is I'm so thankful to my parents for having the unbelievable courage to, in their mid-30s, with aging parents of their own, and a chubby little kid who's 11 years old, just becoming a teen, to pick up from their homeland and say, we're going to the beauty and opportunity of America.
	Not to just come here, but come here and not accept.
	A lot of folks, and I'm sure you know this, a lot of folks come from the former Soviet Union, they get to Brooklyn, and they sort of settle in.
	And they don't push, right?
	And they work hard, but they don't try for the next level, and next level, and next level.
	And I'm so thankful that my parents did that, are doing that, and have instilled that in me.
	I'm obviously thankful, and I was just recently working on a potential book idea and wrote it in the proposal, sort of describing who I am as a son, a husband, a father, and forever a grandson.
	Because I think a lot of my grandparents, and what they went through in living through World War II, and my grandfather fighting the Nazis, and my grandmother being You know, she worked in factories.
	She had to evacuate to Siberia, work in factories.
	She worked in a bomb factory with her cousin.
	They had a fire, she ran out, her cousin ran back in, that's it, and died in front of her, right?
	And just those things that you read about in books, but our families have experienced, you know?
	And so I'm so thankful and honored by that.
	And then, you know, to folks out there, here's what I'll say.
	Always stay in the fight.
	Because if you back down, if you say enough is enough, that is when they win.
	That is when those who are not willing to stand up to China, that's when those who don't want to stand for our flag, that's when those who want to get rid of the nuclear family, that's when they win.
	Stand for what you believe in and stand proudly for what you believe in because if you do not, The other side will beat you down.
	They will wear you down.
	They will grind you down.
	Stand up for what you believe in.
	Stand up proudly.
	Stand up strongly.
	And we will absolutely prevail because history is on our side.
	Wow.
	He brings it every single time.
	I'm going to tweet that out.
	I'm going to quote the Baron.
	When you stop fighting, they win.
	That's all you need to know.
	We have already won because we will not stop fighting.
	Thank you, Boris.
	Thanks so much.

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