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July 30, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Masks are back. Mandatory vaccines next?

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	It's Friday!
	Happy Friday to MAGA World!
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Um, Shad, what are my stories?
	Where do I tell stories from?
	Uh, the post office, walking your dog... And?
	7-Eleven.
	Sometimes, very rarely though.
	Yeah, but it's pretty much those three.
	Yeah.
	I got some good stories today.
	I got two good stories, one from 7-Eleven, one from the post office, and we're gonna Just tease them.
	We're just gonna leave them out there.
	But they have to do with Magga World and the secret sign.
	We're gonna do secret hand signs.
	Because we live in America and we love America.
	As does our special opening show guest.
	It's such a unique opportunity.
	We don't usually do this, especially on Fridays.
	But it's the Barron, so we make exceptions!
	Boris Epstein, former strategic advisor to the Trump 2020 campaign, my White House colleague, and of course you can follow him on Twitter, BorisEP, Boris underscore Epstein on Instagram.
	Barron, happy Friday!
	Happy Friday, my good friend.
	It is so great to be with you.
	Good Shabbos, and I'm so excited to be kicking off your Friday show.
	It is truly an honor, and thank you for giving me a hand.
	As I forget, Getter also.
	Getter!
	I'm gittering all the time.
	For some reason, you know, things pop up on my social media, you know, the mystical algorithms.
	And I've seen you a couple of times in the last couple of weeks on Mr. Bannon's show.
	And you are rather pugnacious.
	I see a side of Boris that, you know what, Boris?
	Somebody should, I love our Battle for 1600 podcast.
	Somebody should give you your own podcast, Baron.
	I think that'd be a wonderful idea.
	I'm ready to go.
	I'm ready to rock.
	I'm ready to do battle, as they say.
	I think that's a wonderful idea.
	So if you've got anybody in mind, hey, I'm always open.
	Let me have some words with some people I know.
	All right, let's get down to business.
	You know some people who know some people.
	I know some people who know some people, if you know what I mean.
	Let's just leave it there.
	Let's just leave it there.
	Boris, we've got to talk about, I think, the closing down of the Arizona audit results in a couple of weeks, but first...
	Nancy yesterday, she just went full Tonto.
	She went totally crazy.
	Masks back, people are going to get arrested, visitors are going to get arrested, but it's interesting.
	There seems to be, I don't know who invented it, I don't know whether it was Chuckie Schumer or Mitch McConnell, but there seems to be a magical, mystical force field that stops COVID between the House of Representatives and the Senate.
	You see, You're so smart, right?
	And you're my former White House colleague.
	You just re-signed your agreement with Salem, and congratulations on that.
	Thank you!
	It is a—most importantly, congratulations to your audience, because you are an absolute champion of America First and MAGA.
	But here's one thing you don't understand.
	What?
	You just don't get it.
	Rules are different depending on what Democrats say.
	Oh, okay.
	So explain to me how COVID, you have to have a mask or you're going to be arrested, unless you're Nancy and it's a press conference yesterday evening and you can take your mask off.
	But in the Senate, nobody needs a mask.
	No, no, it's actually, it's actually different.
	Okay.
	Whenever it's convenient for a Democrat or a Lib, okay, you don't need a mask.
	But whenever they decide magically to put a finger in the air and say, you know what, mask time, then you do need a mask.
	And everything has to close.
	Schools closed.
	World closed.
	Restaurants closed.
	Masks inside.
	And also we're going to need a 15th booster shot.
	OK, so this is this is the question that Okay.
	We're annoyed as conservatives.
	We are disappointed in our fellow American because they basically acquiesced to what happened for the last 18 months.
	Here's my question to you.
	After the Fauci flip-flops, after the Biden... We've got the audio, we've got the video of Biden saying, if you get the vaccine, you don't have to wear a mask.
	Now they're saying you gotta wear a mask even if you don't have a vaccine.
	Is this finally, please tell me something, please, is this the point at which, Barron, Americans say, no, stuff you, not doing it?
	I think this is the point where Americans are absolutely realizing that the left, Joe Biden, Fauci, Pelosi, Chuck crying Chuck Schumer are absolutely full of it and you know what it is.
	Okay?
	The left is an absolute joke.
	I mean Joe Biden today, I don't know if you heard the latest, said I'm from Delaware and we had enough fire burning and we had more fire burning in Delaware than Delaware and Maryland combined.
	Stop!
	Stop!
	Video cut 12.
	Play cut.
	You know, I come from the state of Delaware.
	And, you know, we had more acreage burned last year than the state of Delaware and Maryland combined.
	Combined.
	Combined?
	What does that mean?
	Delaware had more than Delaware and Maryland combined?
	How does that work?
	It works in Biden's brain.
	Is that when he's driving the 18-wheeler?
	Is that the same time?
	Hello?
	Is there anything left in there?
	Anybody home, Joe?
	I mean, and the American people are onto it.
	This guy has plummeted by about 25 points since January in his approval, okay?
	People say, well, you know, President Trump was also at about 50%.
	Sure.
	But the country started at 50-50.
	Biden came in and they actually gave him a little bit of approval.
	They gave him a shot.
	The guy now is underwater.
	Independence is about 45-55.
	Okay, so American people are absolutely realizing that Democrats are a joke and they are saying stuff it to this nonsense.
	So how long, this is I think what everybody wants to know and you've got a very keen political sense, how long till the cackler takes over?
	How long till Kamala takes control?
	First of all, I think I'm not sure she's capable of control.
	That's another question, but how long until this guy... I mean, seriously, with the things he said just this week, just the things he said this week on camera, how long can they keep this up?
	It's completely debilitating.
	It's disqualifying.
	I would not be surprised if Kamala Harris were president by the time that the new year was around.
	Agreed.
	I would not be surprised.
	So what happens then?
	Go ahead.
	That is a horrible option.
	No, but it's good for us, isn't it, Barron?
	It's bad for the country, it's good for Republicans politically.
	It's bad for the country short term because Kamala Harris literally has no skills.
	Tucker Carlson was actually pretty strong on this yesterday.
	She has no skills whatsoever.
	This is somebody who was viewed as a top contender for the Democrat primary.
	She came in 21st, okay?
	She couldn't even get to South Carolina, alright?
	Kamala Harris is an embarrassment to bad politicians.
	She makes Kevin Newsom look like Ronald Reagan.
	So what happens then?
	Is she replaced in the next three years?
	Or does she just drive it into the ground?
	She drives into the ground.
	And we've been talking about this for a long time here on our podcast.
	The Democrats, if you believe they got 80 million votes for Joe Biden, I've got bridges in Brooklyn to sell you, right?
	But long-term, the Democrats have been absolutely marginalizing themselves.
	Making themselves not the party of minorities, but the permanent minority party.
	Meaning that they're going to be a minority for a long time.
	And the more of this nonsense they do, The Texas Democrats in D.C.
	The Maxine Waters clip that you masterfully played last week over and over again.
	This nonsense from Joe Biden.
	The overreaching.
	The more they do it, the longer they're going to be out of power.
	And I think that Kamala Harris is going to very much help drive that nail into the political coffin for a long time of the Democrat Party.
	Because they're a joke party.
	They stand for nothing.
	And they've been on this power grab.
	They have no explanation.
	You know, another video from Biden, I'm sure you'll have a cut of it for later, is him yesterday trying to explain how he contradicted himself from just May, where he said, if you have a vaccine, no mask.
	I didn't say that.
	Yes, you did.
	Well, we don't know what's going on.
	Americans now fully realize that this is a An administration with absolutely no radar.
	It's rudderless.
	No radar, no rudder.
	A mess.
	The sad summary, and it's an accurate one, is bad for the country, bad for all of us, good for conservatives.
	That's the sad reality, but it is correct.
	He's the baron.
	Follow him at Boris EP.
	Boris underscore Epstein.
	God bless you.
	It's Friday.
	It's Ask Dr. G Anything Friday.
	It's Second Amendment Friday.
	Call us, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	Okay.
	334-6752.
	Okay.
	Mics are on.
	Baron, are you still with us?
	Yes.
	Eh, barone.
	Good stuff.
	Good stuff.
	Have a great weekend.
	Everything's great.
	Thank you so much.
	Really appreciate you guys and I'll see you next week.
	Are we good on Wednesday?
	Are we good Wednesday?
	Jeff will check.
	Alright?
	He'll ping you.
	Perfect.
	Have a great weekend.
	Thanks buddy.
	Bye bye.
	Thanks, guys.
	Bye. Okay.
	Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
	Thank you.
	Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Oh, I love him.
	All right, let's come in with, um, two, and then I'll use that to do a balance of nature.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	All right, coming in with cut two.
	Mm-hmm.
	No disclaimer or anything, shot?
	Uh, no disclaimer.
	All right.
	Alright.
	30 seconds. 30 seconds.
	30 seconds.
	That's Mr. Lloyd Austin, ladies and gentlemen, the man in charge of our weapons systems.
	What's he got on there?
	Is that a welder's mask?
	Is it a dental visor?
	Has Lloyd Austin been cleaning teeth this morning?
	Nope.
	Looks like Lloyd Austin is just terrified of COVID.
	Well, then why doesn't he lose weight?
	Quite a bit of weight, actually.
	That's a good question.
	That would be the rational response.
	So of course he has not even considered that.
	I'm so torn.
	Do you laugh or do you say, This is just a treat for our enemies.
	Lloyd Austin... I'm not a small guy, but I think Lloyd Austin is probably heavier than I am, okay?
	It is an... He is the... Does he know?
	Can somebody tell him he is the Secretary of Defense?
	He's wearing a mask, having been vaccinated like every cabinet member of the Biden administration has been, and he's wearing a full, like a welder's mask face shield.
	He looks like a cuckold.
	He looks like a spineless and invertebrate coward.
	And you are in the chain of command underneath Biden, as the man responsible for the greatest military on the planet.
	You look like a pathetic little boy.
	Not only are you a Marxist embarrassment of virtue signaling... Individual, you're also laughable.
	And yes, you're overweight, dude.
	Lose some weight.
	Don't worry about the air particles.
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	Don't be a Lloyd Austin, be a healthy American.
	And I owe Boris, who opened our show, a debt of gratitude.
	Maybe I owe an apology to our millions of listeners that I didn't share with you the great news.
	Thank you, it was, you know, not Here to blow my own trumpet, but God bless Salem.
	Thank you.
	You've been an amazing employer.
	Sorry, Media Matters.
	Sorry, little Zaki Poo.
	Is this Salon or Slate?
	Does it matter?
	Not really.
	I have just been re-signed, re-upped!
	This show, America First, has now another four-year contract with the great people, the mission-oriented conservatives and Christians at Salem Radio.
	Thank you for giving this radio listener an amazing opportunity two and a half years ago.
	And thank you to this amazing team, this huge team.
	Do I have enough time to list their names?
	I think I can do it.
	Jeff, Eric, Shad, Awesome, and John in the wilderness.
	Our social media maven.
	Thank you, guys.
	A lot of fun, and it's exciting.
	Four more years.
	Let's do it.
	The call board is almost full.
	Only one little line left.
	Call us.
	833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	Before we get to your calls, this is an amazing, amazing little clip from a guy called Tony Roman in California, who said, no masks in my restaurant.
	And Fredo, Fredo Cuomo, wasn't happy.
	Cut 10.
	Play cut.
	The whole reason this is happening is because people won't protect themselves, Tony.
	I mean, what are you thinking?
	Then why did you leave your house when you had COVID?
	I mean, you had it.
	And you left your house.
	I mean, it's been documented.
	First of all, it has been documented.
	My ass, it's been documented.
	I quarantined.
	I went out.
	My wife got accosted by somebody.
	I know you don't know, so I'm trying to help you.
	The science is clear, Tony.
	You're trying to help me.
	I don't want you to get sick the way I was sick.
	The science is clear.
	Oh, you care about me all of a sudden, huh?
	Enough to have you on the show, because I don't like people making bad decisions for themselves and their family.
	I was hoping it was a little bit of a stunt.
	You have the freedom not to take the vaccine.
	I just don't know why you think it's a good move.
	Maybe we should ask your brother about protecting people, right?
	Hey, look, that's his job, and if he doesn't do it well, people won't vote for him.
	That's a whole new can of worms.
	Look, Tony, I don't know if you know me too well.
	Don't shy away from us.
	My stand is not a political stand.
	Yeah, good.
	I appreciate that, too, because I know you talk a lot.
	So my stance here is a pro-freedom stand only.
	It's not political.
	If you come down here, you're not going to see a Trump flag flying over the roof.
	You're not going to see campaign signs.
	You're not going to see campaign slogans or political slogans ever.
	You're only going to see pro-freedom.
	Freedom, messages, and that's it.
	You're not going to drag me down the hole talking about the science.
	This is not about whether I'm pro-vaccine or not.
	I'm pro-freedom, anti-tyranny.
	Maybe the conversation should really be between me and your brother.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Maybe so.
	You're pro-freedom, but people can't wear masks.
	Tony, it doesn't make sense.
	It really doesn't.
	I gave you a chance to make the case.
	I wish you well.
	I hope your family stays safe.
	I made my case.
	You didn't have much to say.
	You didn't have much to say.
	I mean, honestly, you sound like an idiot, so there's not much to say.
	But, Tony, good luck with it.
	That is the definition of a putz.
	A, he insults his guests on the show, on air.
	How many viewers does he have?
	It doesn't matter how small the viewership.
	And then he lies.
	He lies.
	Yes, we caught you.
	You broke quarantine.
	And then, Fredo, you staged, you staged your coming out of quarantine in front of the camera.
	You're a fraud and you are a very stupid fraud.
	Let's get that man on the show.
	Tony Roman, we need you here on America First because we believe in freedom as well.
	Let's go to Dale in Detroit.
	Dale, welcome.
	Hey, Dr. Gorka.
	Hey.
	This is your official science fiction caller.
	Good.
	Let's get to work.
	What's your question?
	What's your comment?
	I've got some exciting news for you.
	I've talked to you in the past, and you recommended Blake 7.
	I was unable to find that on the internet.
	I have found a source for it.
	It's available!
	All four seasons.
	Yes, all four seasons.
	There's a website called internetarchive.org.
	I think the site is just archive.org, but it's internetarchive.org.
	And they've archived all of these old shows So Flash Gordon's on there, the Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman, and all four seasons of Blake's Seven is on there.
	Excellent.
	I've been through series, season one.
	And what's the verdict, Dale?
	I'm liking it.
	I'm liking it.
	Good.
	I'd have been through all of them, but I've been trying to get through all ten series, all ten seasons of Stargate.
	One which I never watched because I didn't have a cable.
	Yeah, Stargate never really tickled my fancy.
	I gave it a try, but it never quite grabbed me.
	The movie's okay.
	Kurt Russell's always cool, but Stargate never quite.
	But Blake 7 is basically the Magnificent Seven in space.
	It's like all British science fiction.
	Don't look too closely at the special effects or the studio sets.
	You know, the toilet tubes painted silver and the utensils that turned into ray guns.
	It's lots of fun.
	I'm going to check that out.
	Internetarchive.org.
	Thank you.
	I've got them all on DVD, but I might find something else there.
	I love my DVD collection, because you never know.
	Those streaming services?
	Who are they going to ban next?
	Who are they going to memory hole next?
	And what happens when we have that next cyber attack?
	It may not be the gas stations.
	Who knows?
	So have a plan.
	My plan is to always have a backup.
	Even for my entertainment.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Stay with us, won't you?
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	It's gonna threaten the lawsuit, I think.
	But so what?
	It's Texas.
	Yeah.
	You can't have anything you want happen in Texas if you don't want to have illegal aliens transiting your state.
	What's the federal government gonna do about it?
	The many possible answers to that question are what concern me, honestly.
	I mean, with Biden and what he wants to do.
	Garland especially.
	I always said that's why I think Garland's one of the most dangerous cabinet members.
	He's got more of a chip on his shoulder against Republicans than... He's not dangerous.
	He's a coward.
	He's a front man.
	He's a meat puppet.
	He doesn't know how to exact revenge.
	He'll just be used by other people.
	I mean, just look at the guy's testimony.
	He's such a weak little feckless fool.
	My fiance and I tried to watch Stargate a couple of weekends ago.
	The TV show?
	The movie.
	And?
	I mean, we dropped out before the last third.
	It just doesn't grab you.
	It doesn't have a very good, like, trajectory.
	You feel like the third act kind of comes and goes halfway through it, and you're like, I don't know.
	It was just okay.
	Some people love it.
	The effects were okay.
	What, Blake 7?
	No, uh... Stargate.
	Stargate!
	Blake 7's excellent.
	Big hit in unfinished basements, I think.
	Wow, alright.
	Ooh, I see.
	Do they really have basements in Britain?
	No.
	Yeah.
	We have cellars.
	Yeah.
	Cellars.
	And very few houses have cellars.
	30 seconds.
	It's too wet out there.
	Alright, 20 seconds, standby.
	Standing by.
	You wanna come in with something, Dr. G?
	Nope, okay.
	Still gotta tell those stories.
	You waiting for that?
	Oh, yeah.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Time flies when you're having fun.
	The call board is full.
	We've got some amazing guests.
	Former Congressman Dave Brat will be joining us.
	Jim Hansen, Jimbo, in studio.
	Phil Kirpin to give us the truth about masks and vaccines.
	But I should tell my story, shouldn't I?
	I know a friend of mine, he keeps teasing the story for about an hour and a half on his show.
	I love the guy, but dude, you can't tease something seven times!
	If the show's good, the show's good!
	People are gonna listen!
	So here are my two stories.
	First one's really sweet.
	It's super sweet.
	Went to check our post box after hours at the post office.
	It's like 6, 6.30.
	It's closed, but you can go into the lobby.
	And as I'm leaving, I hear the door close behind.
	What's going on?
	Somebody's coming out from behind.
	One of the workers leaving late.
	Never seen her before.
	And I know everybody.
	Asian lady, tall, thin lady.
	And I hold the door open for her to leave.
	She looks at me.
	She goes, to Gorka, and then she lifts her thumb like this.
	Big thumbs up sign.
	Said, we're going to win, right?
	And she was whispering.
	I don't know why she was whispering, but she had that secret sign.
	It's going to be okay.
	Thumbs up.
	Lovely lady.
	Turns out she's a mail carrier.
	Been a mail carrier for 37 years.
	From South Korea, married to an infantry officer, a veteran, a USR.
	Army.
	Lovely lady.
	God bless you.
	Thank you for serving this nation, both of you.
	And yes, thumbs up.
	Today at 7-Eleven, I was getting a Slurpee, just a little one, just a Friday treat.
	And I'm about to leave And this very frail, dainty-looking elderly woman walks in.
	I mean, if she was 60 pounds, that was, you know, on a wet day, 60 pounds.
	And she's fully masked up, and she stares at me, and she stops.
	And I'm thinking, oh, no.
	Am I going to get the lecture from the lady about not wearing a mask?
	And she looks at me.
	Focuses in a little bit more and she points at me and she says, MAGAMAN!
	And I thought, yeah, I like it.
	Yes, I am MAGAMAN.
	Sebastian Gorka.
	She said, love seeing you on TV.
	I think we need some bumper stickers.
	What do you think, Mr. G?
	MAGAMAN?
	I like that one.
	Mega Man.
	You have to have your face on it, though.
	Yes!
	We have to have my face, maybe your face.
	Mega Man!
	We could be Mega Man.
	Okay, enough of that.
	Those are my two stories for Friday.
	Let's go to your calls.
	Let's go to Regina, Oklahoma City.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hi, Mr. Sebastian.
	How are you today?
	Very well.
	Good.
	I'm going to compliment you.
	You're a great, happy warrior.
	A good Catholic, happy warrior, just like me.
	Good!
	We have to stick together.
	That's right.
	And my husband is a convert Catholic, so I make sure we got him in the church.
	They make some of the best Catholics.
	They are rabidly Catholic, some of those converts.
	Actually, we're traditional Catholics, so we go to the Latin Mass.
	Good for you.
	Whatever the Pope says, go to that Catholic Mass.
	Anyway, so there's two points I have.
	So first things first, before I forget, I always want to know why Congress never pointed out Bella Dodd's testimony, I think it was 1935 or 30, I forget what year it was, that she testified in Congress about them infiltrating the church and in the United States, the communists.
	Yeah, what's the question?
	I missed the first part of the question.
	I'm sorry, Bella Dodd, you use Bella Dodd?
	Yes, I do, what about her?
	Why has anybody ever mentioned her?
	Why does everybody in America forget history, number one?
	Yeah, that's true, because they never taught.
	I grew up in a potent town, and we learned more there than anybody else.
	I'm just sometimes surprised.
	It's a sad reality that we seem to have very short memories in this country.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And I, in fact, we were stationed in England for five years.
	We're military.
	Whereabouts?
	Where were you stationed?
	Um, we were stationed at Mildenhall.
	So when Biden was at Mildenhall, I was really embarrassed because my husband, he was in special ops.
	So he was on the talent too.
	We got out of special ops because we were expecting our first baby.
	So now he's the head of medical education.
	of here.
	We're stationed here in Oklahoma. - God bless.
	- And yeah, and so-- - Regina, you've got 30 seconds left till the end of the segment.
	- Okay, so real quick.
	So real quick.
	So I have one point about the vaccination.
	My husband's fighting against the vaccination since we're still in the military.
	We're gonna fight against this where he's trying to get all his troops, okay?
	Second thing is that one thing, I'm gonna fight against the woman who the other day called about that all healthcare workers should take the vaccine I remember her talking about it.
	I want to tell one thing is I know three people who took the vaccine.
	All three of them were pregnant.
	The all three miscarried.
	So we cannot use the vaccine to be a blanket.
	And don't forget this vaccine.
	You cannot sue Right, they are indemnified.
	Regina, I think that caller, that lovely lady worked in the health sector, by the end of our conversation she had turned around and she did agree if there are people who don't want to take it because they've had Covid, because they're pregnant, because they want to get pregnant, That they should be exempted.
	So I think she came around.
	God bless you and your husband.
	Stay on the line.
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	Jeff.
	Alright, next up is Mr. Kirkman.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	A montage?
	Or was that the day before?
	It was two days ago.
	It was two days ago, but then we... That was Fauci.
	That was Fauci.
	The Fauci montage, yeah.
	Can you find that and I'll tee it up with Phil, but just play like 20 seconds of it and then pot it down.
	Okay, but we need to get up.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I'll go and I can pot it down.
	And I pot it down, yes.
	Okay.
	Yeah, well, it's a video cut.
	That's right.
	Yeah, just making sure because, you know.
	Yeah.
	Yes, that was cut three from two days ago.
	What's your last name?
	Can I get Phil?
	All right, what's your address?
	Phil!
	Yes.
	Welcome back.
	Hey, how's it going?
	Oh, that was a heavy sigh.
	Are you all right?
	Are you up for this interview?
	Oh, I'm just, I just are preparing for the 5 a.m.
	return of the mandatory tools of ignorance in Washington, D.C.
	The mandatory tools of ignorance.
	How do you want me to introduce the Committee to Unleash Prosperity?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	Okay, good.
	All right, we're going to talk about masks, vaccines, and what people need to know.
	Live in 60 seconds.
	Standby, Phil.
	Coming in with the Fauci montage?
	No.
	Oh, I'm going to teed up.
	Yeah, teed up.
	There we go.
	Yeah, you wanted to do pillow here.
	That's right. 40 seconds.
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	It's been far too long since he's been on the show.
	He's a truth teller when it comes to those little bureaucratic fascists in Washington, D.C.
	He is with the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
	Phil Kirpin, welcome back to America First.
	Great to be with you.
	All right, so you sighed a heavy sigh when you came on in the break and you said something about the tools of willful ignorance returning to Washington DC.
	Let's tee up our discussion with an individual who's really in favor of those tools of willful ignorance.
	Fauci, play cut.
	Wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better.
	Masks are protective.
	But it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.
	There has not been any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a considerable period of time has any deleterious effects thereof.
	So what's going on?
	We have vaccine mandates for federal workers.
	Nancy Pelosi says masks are back.
	You're going to be arrested if you don't wear them in Congress.
	When is this going to end, Phil?
	You know, it's... I don't know when it's going to end.
	We've got the masks are mandatory again in Washington D.C.
	as of 5 a.m.
	tomorrow morning.
	Which is very interesting, because it's been 13 days since the District of Columbia last reported a death with COVID.
	We've had 11 homicides in the last 13 days, but zero deaths with COVID.
	Maybe they should ban homicides, Phil.
	Yeah, right, well, or at least maybe have a little bit more vigorous enforcement of the existing laws against them.
	But look, I mean, it's just completely bizarre.
	You know, I looked up the most recent percentage of emergency room visits they post every couple of days that had COVID in the District of Columbia, and it was 0.25%, which has got to be like one person, basically, that showed up at an emergency room.
	But the CDC says mask, The Democratic mayor says, absolutely, we're on board.
	A couple days later it comes into effect.
	Other liberal areas will follow suit because there doesn't need to be any basis in the metrics of the data or the facts of the science of the play.
	So let's talk about this for a second.
	So can you confirm or deny or do you have any other visibility that apparently this insane reversal, we've been told by Biden, by Fauci, if you're vaccinated you don't need a mask, now you do, perhaps for the rest of eternity, that this decision It is based apparently on an unpublished, unpeer-reviewed publication from India about a vaccine that you can't even get here in America.
	Yeah, and it's actually even better than that because they didn't even understand the study because in the CDC slide deck they refer to it as a study in healthcare professionals when in fact it was a study in simulated Persons in the laboratory.
	It was not a study in actual human beings.
	It was a simulation.
	Yes, it was a simulation.
	It was a lab simulation in India using vaccines that are not used in the United States and that failed peer review.
	So it had already been rejected for publication at the time that they relied on it in this slide deck.
	And now they are sort of, you know, scrambling for other Justifications for the policy having already rolled it out, and just an hour or two ago they rushed out a new study out of Provincetown, Massachusetts, that I suppose is now the new justification for it, the India study having been discredited.
	Do you have, because you've got to follow this guy, at Kerpen, K-E-R-P-E-N on Twitter, you are one of the Most ardent conscientious and just trenchant followers of the truth on this issue, whether it is the original infection rate, mortality rate, hiding of the stats of those infected at old people's homes.
	Do you have any sense of what's driving all of this?
	Is it just risk aversion?
	Is it truly those wishing to leverage an atmosphere of fear?
	Are you seeing one dominating factor in all of this?
	Insane decision-taking?
	You know, it's really... I don't really understand why.
	The motivation escapes me, to be honest with you, because I had made the incorrect assumption that they finally had their exit strategy, their escape hatch from the sort of cul-de-sac they've driven us all into, With the lockdowns and the masks and that they had this path to return to normalcy by saying, OK, the vaccine, we can and the other stuff.
	And now with this retreat, I don't know how they ever ended.
	And maybe they don't want to, but it's people have got to get tired of it at some point and backlash against them.
	And so I don't really understand the motivation.
	I could come up with some theories.
	They're not totally satisfying.
	One might be That they want to gin up the fear meter and take the front pages over again with COVID, because they think it eases passage of the legislative agenda and the Bernie Sanders budget before they get out of town.
	It could be that the data that's coming in showing that the vaccine is not quite what they promised in terms of stopping transmission, although it does seem to be pretty good at stopping severe disease and death.
	But they over-promised, I think, on transmission, so this could be their way.
	to try to say hey you know we we didn't get it wrong it's the virus that changed uh you know i i don't know uh to be honest because uh it's contrary to my own expectations that they're doing this so i i'm still puzzling over it a bit they It's one sign of an honest man, an individual who, when you ask him a question and he doesn't know the answer, he actually admits it.
	Thank you, Phil Kirpin.
	He is a member of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity.
	Follow him at Kerpin on Twitter, that's at K-E-R-P-E-N.
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	It's alright.
	Yeah, let me turn... ... ... ... ... let me turn... ... ... ... ... ...
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	And it's getting worse.
	Let's go to Billy, California, line 5.
	Hello?
	Yes, you're up!
	Hi.
	Yeah, I had a question.
	You know, my son and I, for Christmas, we did an AR build.
	And it worked out really well.
	I was planning on building a Beowulf pistol, and I wanted to get your take on whether or not I should go with the 7.5 or the 10.5.
	Hang on, are you serious?
	You're talking about the .50 Beowulf?
	Yeah!
	You're a nutcase.
	You are a certifiable lunatic.
	But it's fun.
	Do it anyway.
	Thank you, sir.
	I've got a 16-inch Beowulf.
	That is such a fat, slow slug.
	Putting it in anything under 16 inches, it's going to basically drop out of the barrel when you fire it.
	But hey, it's America, so do it.
	Whatever you want to.
	God bless you.
	Great question.
	50-caliber Beowulf.
	It's different.
	It's designed to go through engine blocks.
	Yeah, it's fun.
	I've got one.
	Let's go to Alexis, California, line one.
	Hi!
	Hey!
	I just wanted to say I'm doing my part least the best I can.
	Every line I'm waiting in, you know, whether it's Costco, Apple store.
	So what do you do?
	What do you do, Alexis, when you're in line?
	I need to know.
	I talk to whoever is next to me and tell them the newest of the news, where to find it, and the truth.
	Given that you're in California, I have to ask, what kind of reactions are you getting, Alexis?
	Oh, they listen.
	I mean, it's been wonderful.
	I even talked to a teacher, and she didn't know about the critical race theory yet.
	And I tell them to vote for Larry Elder, too.
	Yes.
	Is anybody mean to you?
	Say that again?
	Has anybody been mean to you, Alexis?
	Um, no, not at all, actually.
	Except for when I'm in my car, and I texted you my driving signs.
	But when I'm in my car, I have signs all the way around my car.
	And this one guy pulled up to me at the light, and he's fainting laughing, which was weird.
	So I look, thinking that, you know, I give him a thumbs up.
	That's perfect because they don't know what to do.
	Daddy's giving me the thumbs up and just smile and give me thumbs up again.
	That's perfect because they don't know what to do.
	They can't handle when these hate-filled, vituperative, acid, bile-filled individuals...
	When you smile at them, it kind of like frazzles their brain.
	It just doesn't compute.
	Stay on the line, Alexis.
	I want to say thank you.
	I don't know if we've given you a signed copy of any of my books.
	But Jeff, let Alexis pick.
	Whatever she wants, she gets.
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	With freedom comes responsibility.
	Your decision to be unvaccinated impacts someone else.
	Unvaccinated people spread the virus.
	They get sick.
	Right now, they're going back to masks, saying it's the Delta variant.
	Well, there's one large study out of England, from Public Health England.
	92,000 patients.
	And do you know how many people died in the vaccinated wing of this under age 50?
	Zero.
	Do you know how many people died?
	There were 52,000 people unvaccinated.
	Do you know how many people died?
	Six.
	That works out to .08% less than the flu.
	That's under age 50.
	Over age 50, it was about half as many people died as were dying last year.
	So the Delta variant is more transmissible, but less deadly.
	But if you say that, Facebook will take you down.
	They'll chastise you, take away your birthday, and say you're spreading mistruth.
	But it's absolutely factual.
	The Delta variant is more transmissible, but far less deadly than the virus from last year.
	All of the studies that have looked at natural immunity show that natural immunity has at least as good of immunity as you get from a vaccine.
	People have to realize that vaccines are based on what we learned from natural immunity over the last couple of hundred years, how the body responds to a foreign particle, a virus or a bacteria, and then we simulate that with a vaccine.
	So the vaccine is simulating the natural immunity that I have, but Dr. Fauci discounts it.
	35 million people officially have had COVID, but really, conservative estimates, even the CDC, indicate another 70-some-odd million have had it.
	So really, it's over 100 million Americans have had it.
	Probably 150, 160 million have been inoculated with the vaccine.
	Together, we have an enormous amount of success with immunity.
	To be continued...
	To be continued...
	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
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	So much to talk, so little time.
	Let's share with you the truth about the Delta variant and the truth about vaccines.
	Let's start with vaccines.
	What is a vaccine?
	What is a vaccine?
	How does it work?
	It is based upon natural immunity, meaning how our body develops immunity after we've been infected, our natural T-cell creation.
	A vaccine is nothing more, nothing less than a simulation, a watered-down, weaker version of the virus to simulate the response of our immune system.
	If you don't believe me, listen to a man who is a medical professional.
	His name is Sanitor Rand Paul.
	Cut eight.
	Play cuts.
	All of the studies that have looked at natural immunity show that natural immunity has at least as good of immunity as you get from a vaccine.
	People have to realize that vaccines are based on what we learned from natural immunity over the last couple of hundred years, how the body responds to a foreign particle, a virus or a bacteria, and then we simulate that with a vaccine.
	So the vaccine is simulating the natural immunity that I have, but Dr. Fauci discounts it.
	35 million people officially have had COVID, but really conservative estimates, even the CDC, indicate another 70 some odd million have had it.
	So really, it's over 100 million Americans have had it.
	Probably 150, 160 million have been inoculated with the vaccine.
	Together, we have an enormous amount of success with immunity.
	That's the truth about all vaccines.
	And if you've had COVID, if you've recovered, your body is more powerfully in a position to keep you healthy than any vaccine could provide you.
	Because a vaccine is a simulation of your resistance to something you've already beaten.
	Let's stay on with the good doctor, with the good senator, and let's talk about the Delta.
	This spooky thing!
	Is it really more deadly?
	Is it the super bad version of Corona?
	No.
	Let's look at the actual science.
	Cut seven.
	Right now, they're going back to masks, saying it's the Delta variant.
	Well, there's one large study out of England, from Public Health England, 92,000 patients.
	And do you know how many people died in the vaccinated wing of this under age 50?
	Zero.
	Do you know how many people died?
	There were 52,000 people unvaccinated.
	Do you know how many people died?
	Six.
	That works out to 0.08% less than the flu.
	That's under age 50.
	Over age 50, it was about half as many people died as were dying last year.
	So the Delta variant is more transmissible, but less deadly.
	But if you say that, Facebook will take you down, they'll chastise you, take away your birthday, and say you're spreading mistruth.
	But it's absolutely factual.
	The Delta variant is more transmissible, but far less deadly than the virus from last year.
	In case you missed it, the Delta variant That is being used as the excuse to shut down America, to mask America, to have mandatory vaccination of federal employees and the military is not worse.
	It is more transmissible, which means it can hop from one human to another human with greater ease than the original coronavirus from China.
	But it's less deadly, which means who cares whether it's more transmissible.
	You can't justify harsher policy constrictions on Americans, logically at least, with something that is less dangerous than the first variant.
	Unless, of course, it has nothing to do with your health.
	And could it be more closures?
	You think I'm being maybe hyperbolic?
	Let's talk to the deputy press spokesperson for the Biden administration.
	Let's listen to Corinne Jean-Pierre.
	Cut nine.
	If scientists come to you at some point down the line and say, it is our opinion that there should be shutdowns and there should be school closures, you would do that?
	Well, we listen to, like I said, we listen to the CDC and the expert and their guidance.
	The CDC is a body that is very well respected and we follow their guidance.
	You mean the guidance that is based, as Phil Kirpin just told us, upon an Indian study that wasn't published, wasn't peer-reviewed, that refers to what?
	A type of coronavirus vaccine from AstraZeneca that isn't even in use in America, cannot be prescribed, cannot be given, and isn't even a clinical study?
	It is a simulation?
	of the use of that vaccine.
	That's who you're listening to.
	Then it's a fraud.
	It's a lie.
	It's not science.
	Either it is utter complete cowardice in a culture of maximal risk aversion, or it's something far, far darker, far, far more cynical, something to do with simply power
	And potentially elections and splitting America again between those who wish to get back to life as normal, to get the heart of America beating again, and those who are afraid that they're going to lose power.
	Let's go to your cause.
	Waiting very patiently in California.
	Ow!
	Line three.
	Welcome aboard.
	Is this who dares wins, Gorka?
	I like that!
	We like the motto of the Special Air Service, the regiment from Hereford.
	I am not a member.
	I worked with them when I was in the British military, but I'll take the compliment, Al.
	That's very, very kind of you.
	Well, considering 97% of people that apply don't get in, it's a very elite force.
	Listen, speaking of the SAS, this is a passing comment before I get to my main comment.
	I've got a picture from either after the Battle Magazine or Britain at War, and it's got a jeep full of SAS men wearing the tambourine and the denizens' smock, and all four of them are carrying the folding stock U.S.
	World War II M1 carbine.
	No, I agree with you.
	It's probably underpowered, but, you know, if the SAS is carrying it, it must have some efficacy.
	I've read practically everything ever written about the SAS.
	Al, you're going to have to stay on the line after our call, and I want you to stay in touch with Mr. G. Send him a photograph or email him a photograph of that image, because I need to see.
	I have never seen... I've seen the SAS Armed with many things, from AK-47s to M-16s to M-79s, you name it.
	But M1 carbines, you have me intrigued, sir.
	You have me intrigued.
	If you give me a second, I think it's a re-enactor, but all of the accoutrements are correct.
	Let me get on to my main portion here.
	Yes.
	I think that what's going on at the border now with immigration is pre-planned with logistics, because you don't move somebody from Africa unless there's pre-planning.
	But here's my main point.
	I don't understand why the average citizen that has to live with these people is never consulted.
	It's always somebody from some ivory tower saying, here's the numbers and here's the people.
	We who have to live with these people never seem to be consulted.
	Now, am I wrong with bringing that up?
	No, not at all.
	We're not average people consulted about anything that Washington decides.
	Oh, yeah.
	We vote once and then we kind of think, oh, okay, I'll wait for another four years.
	I've always wondered who decides these things.
	The numbers, I've always felt, especially lately, the numbers are far too high.
	I mean, if nobody else does it, what does that tell you?
	What do you mean?
	Explain that.
	Well, we take in something like a million legal immigrants a year.
	No other country on the planet does that.
	Right.
	And now, if that's the case, other countries have adopted Democracy, jeeps, you name it, other Western accoutrements, but nobody's adopted.
	Japan has it.
	They're a literate society with a low crime rate.
	South Korea, you name it.
	We're the only one that does it, so I say there must be something wrong with it if nobody else has copied it.
	It just is a question.
	Yeah, well look, I think it's very clear that America is the country that people want to emigrate to.
	So there's going to be a natural attraction more than any... People don't, you know, swim across shark-infested waters or cross deserts to end up in Luxembourg, but they do do it to come to America.
	So that's the number one magnet.
	On top of that, your question with regards to how many, what's the number?
	That's policy, and as a certain senator from Illinois once said, elections have consequences.
	We will not see more than 2 million illegal aliens crossing the southern border this year if it weren't for the fact that last November a certain individual was selected to be the President of the United States.
	Great questions, great comments.
	Stay on the line, Al.
	I need to see that image, because I'm intrigued.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, one hour down.
	Two to go.
	Clear.
	Mic's on.
	He dropped.
	He dropped?
	What?
	Didn't want to back it up.
	What?
	Next up is... Is it fake news?
	Is it Rosemary, the telephone operator?
	Could be.
	Wanted to do pillow.
	Pillow.
	Titles when you got a moment.
	Titre.
	Titre.
	Ah, kirpin, kirpin, kirpin.
	I'm gonna get some water.
	There's a bottle in the door.
	It's cold.
	It's open but undrunk.
	Three minutes.
	How'd you know that?
	I had his number from before when he called last time and then he told me.
	Because when he was in here with Matt a couple weeks ago.
	He told you that he worked for Steve?
	Yeah, because I was wondering how he had his number.
	So what does he do?
	What does he do?
	He's like, he wrangles Matt.
	This is all. - Thank you.
	what you have the screenshots and I'll ask them.
	Yeah, I'll send you there.
	Two minutes.
	Two minutes.
	Three minutes.
	Hey, it's Jeff with Sebastian Gorka.
	90 seconds.
	Good.
	I'm going to put you on hold.
	Just remember, if he talks to you in the break, we're live on Rumble during the commercial break.
	Sorry.
	All right, hang on.
	He's on the line.
	Professor Brown.
	Hey, how we doing, Professor?
	Good.
	So it's Dean of the Business School at Liberty, right?
	You got it.
	All right.
	What should we talk about?
	I've been going off on the lack of a real economy.
	If you want to go off on the Marxist playbook, you know, getting rid of God, family, school, rule of law, police, constitution.
	Lack of a real economy.
	I love that.
	Okay.
	All right.
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	Welcome back to America First.
	Hey, great to be on with you, Deb.
	Are you on a train?
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	Not as an elevator.
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	Maybe it's an episode from The Fugitive.
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	Hopefully not.
	You said something in the break that intrigued me.
	You said you want to talk about the lack of a real economy.
	And it kind of resonates with something I've been feeling.
	I'm not an economist.
	You meld politics, philosophy, faith, and economics in a way that It is truly unique, and that's why I love having you on the show.
	But let me, as an utter layman when it comes to business and economics, give you my ten-cent analysis.
	America's still the greatest nation on God's Earth.
	It's still the greatest economy, greatest military, freest nation on God's Earth.
	But we don't make enough stuff.
	And maybe I'm old school.
	I'm born in 1970.
	Maybe that's the reason.
	I've had enough with big tech, Palo Alto, white collar, to be a healthy economy.
	It's like having your IRA portfolio be more diversified.
	Don't we need to make real stuff more than we do, Dave Brat?
	Yeah, well, that's right.
	And so the question is, why don't we?
	And part of the answer to that is because we don't give our kids any financial education.
	And that's kind of what I want to talk about.
	Explain that.
	That's not by accident.
	Yeah, yeah, the Marxist playbook, right?
	I mean, the last thing they want you to understand is that the Marxist economic paradigm has totally failed, right?
	The ideology hasn't.
	The ideology is taking over the world right now.
	They own Russia, China, And they're on our way to taking over our higher education and federal government in totality.
	And so, when I say we have an artificial economy, that's what I mean.
	I mean, the 1% is growing like crazy, but the middle class and small business is getting blown up, and we're not educating our kids in high school about any of this, so that they can understand how do they fit into the world, and then how do they take political action So that we set up a structure that builds more stuff, like you just said, right?
	I looked at the economic report today.
	GDP didn't hit expectations.
	It was six and a half instead of eight and a half.
	But the one thing that was very noticeable with capital investment was down.
	The only thing that causes us to build real stuff, right?
	And we had an Africa summit, and I want to help Africa do better.
	We're trying to bring capital investment to Africa.
	That's what runs the economic machine.
	If you don't have capital equipment and machinery, you can't pay for all the goods that the left wants.
	And so the left is just in a total power grab right now.
	They're seizing power.
	They took over the health care sector, along with everything else up in D.C.
	in the swamp.
	And so we need to get our kids learning economics and finance again.
	So that they can shoot their own future and take charge of the country again.
	But beyond what we teach in the schools and the theory of it and what has been, you know, demonstrated over more than a century that Keynes was a lunatic and Keynesian economics never works.
	Big government always leads to smaller citizens and to captive economies.
	What I'm talking about is something far more prosaic, far more pedestrian.
	Why?
	Is it just because China subsidizes their factories?
	Or is there a deeper political agenda in the fact that we don't make stuff like we used to?
	If you look at the production figures for hard goods, Not just during World War II, but in the 50s.
	It's as if we are a shadow, a hollowed-out husk of what we were in terms of physical plant and production in America.
	Yeah, no, you know.
	I mean, you were with President Trump, and that's what he's upset about right now, from the Midwest.
	You know, Detroit's born in Detroit, and we've outsourced anything They're required cheaper labor.
	And right now our border is wide open.
	We're importing COVID of every variation.
	And all of this, of course, ties into lower wage rates for Americans.
	And not the high skilled wage rates working with capital.
	Capital is what increases wage rates.
	And our guys, our elites, are just chasing capital and investing in China right now.
	And that's going to come to an end pretty quick, right?
	Globalism.
	is we'll see what Biden does with this Olympics coming up in China.
	And that could be the death knell.
	And so the good news is, you know, hopefully some of those supply chains to China break down.
	We start looking probably more at Mexico and South America and some of our friends over here and then maybe African opportunities.
	And we get back to capital investment.
	And that's, you know, Entrepreneurship Center at Liberty, et cetera, and everything we do.
	The first thing you do is you write up a business plan and then you've got to go find capital.
	You've got to find someone to invest in your firm.
	And so that's the next step.
	And as conservatives who don't believe in big government, was...
	What is the role of government when China suppresses prices at their end?
	How do you encourage?
	I mean, we don't believe in subsidies, so how do you make American companies want to make stuff in America with American employees?
	Yeah, that's where the ethical component comes from, right?
	I mean, the fact that we ended up the richest country is not an accident.
	It comes out of our Judeo-Christian heritage, right?
	Greek reason and the Judeo-Christian religious tradition came up with this thing called the Golden Rule.
	And that gave us the rule of law, the Ten Commandments, etc.
	And so, what should we do with China?
	And what's the role of the federal government?
	It should be reciprocity, right?
	Why in the world should we let Chinese firms on our stock exchanges When they won't let us in there.
	Why should we allow them free speech when they don't allow us free speech?
	Why should we allow them here, you know, on all sorts of grounds, when they won't grant us equal access to China?
	So that's what the role of the federal government is.
	It should be equal treatment of individuals under the law.
	Period.
	And then, when outside of the international context, what do we do here to engender those plans to be created?
	Well, yeah, I mean, you know, I'm on the Republican side.
	And so it's unfortunate that even our leadership of the Republican Party is finally just coming along, you know, since President Trump led the charge.
	Yes.
	We need to take back the Chinese supply chains.
	We need to call out the abuse of Uyghur labor in China.
	Yes.
	And put an end to these things from the Republican side and then call out the Democrats.
	It's interesting.
	Biden is actually maintaining a fairly tough stand on China.
	All right.
	We will hold that thought.
	We will continue momentarily.
	We're talking to the Dean of the Business School at Liberty University, former Congressman from Virginia, Dave Brat.
	This is America First. Clear.
	Eric, is your phone on silent?
	I got it, I got it.
	Okay.
	Alright, so we'll continue the discussion of the Marxist playbook, okay?
	Good, yeah, good, good.
	So what do you do now?
	Are you like a manager now?
	Are you like one of these mucky muck deans?
	Or do you actually teach as well?
	No, I got lucky.
	I got a 300 CEO summit coming to Liberty August 10 to August 12.
	You're more than welcome.
	What's the theme?
	Well, we had the China Summit two years ago, then we had the Africa Summit, and so the theme of this one is where's technology heading, where's the money going, right?
	Venture capital and private equity to technology.
	And then the sub-theme is getting a Christian Fortune 500 firmed up here.
	Wow.
	We have a place to network and do things the right way.
	We got Hantler from Bernie Marcus is coming.
	Steve Green from Hobby Lobby's coming.
	Peter Thiel's guy that wrote his Thiel Capital guy's coming.
	Studio from Goya Food.
	We got a ton, ton of huge guys coming.
	Can you send me the agenda?
	Sure.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Right.
	Shad's destroying the studio before he leaves.
	He's sabotaging it.
	That has happened way too many times.
	It's the worst design of microphone stand I've ever seen.
	There's no detent.
	There's no... Yeah.
	It's just like a loose screw.
	The worst design I've ever seen.
	It's just one of those things that happens every like four weeks.
	Yeah, but it's like so obvious.
	Yeah.
	Why would there not be a captive screw there?
	I can't believe it.
	They're having Wolenska on Bret Baier's show.
	Unbelievable.
	Oh, Brett.
	Brad, Brad, Brad, Brad. - Yeah, what are you working on, Zeb?
	Where's your energy taking you?
	Well, I've got the new TV show, which is a lot of fun.
	So we've got that every week, which lets us go a deeper dive on an issue for an hour.
	Then I've got another project in the works, another TV show of a very different ilk that I'm looking to find some backers for.
	And I just signed my new four-year contract with Salem, so I'm very excited.
	Oh, wow.
	Good.
	Good for you.
	You wanted to do CAR-15 here?
	Yes, yes.
	So you had a conference on Africa?
	Yeah, April.
	We had 10 heads of state.
	We had the vice president in Nigeria, very impressive guy, lawyer, very Christian, former president of Vice President of Liberia, former President Joyce Banda from Malawi.
	Wow.
	Ten heads of state.
	And we're moving forward starting a moral voice for Africa and a center for Africa at liberty to do just straight business-to-business deals.
	No World Bank, no nothing.
	Fascinating.
	And they like it.
	You should meet with my buddy here.
	He was a special forces pilot and ended up running all of the DoD's counter-terrorism programs in the whole of Africa after 9-11.
	Have him come.
	I'll shoot you that email.
	You guys come together.
	Run your show out of liberty.
	Great guy.
	Great guy.
	All right, stand by.
	Making sense out of today's nonsense.
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	We are back with Liberty University's School of Business Dean Dave Brat.
	We're talking about the challenge to getting America back on its feet fighting the Marxists.
	Dave, this may sound a little strange coming from somebody whose parents escaped an actual communist dictatorship, but You've been on Capitol Hill.
	You understand economics.
	Is the right word for what we are facing, is it Marxism?
	Is it socialism?
	Is it deluded, useful idiots?
	Or is it just a concatenation of all of those?
	Well, it is a concatenation, but the Marxist ideology is driving the vacuum, right?
	And so the Marxist playbook Marx was a materialist.
	And, you know, the fact that no one knows any of this is scary, right?
	Dialectical materialism.
	He objected to Hegel, who was an idealist.
	Well, and a believer.
	Hegel was a believer.
	Yes, yes.
	And the idea, the chief idea that motivated Western Civ is God, right?
	There is a God.
	That is your first point.
	And the fact that Hegel's use of the dialectic would end you up eventually at the end of the road knowing ultimate truth, which is God.
	I mean, this is the irony of what Marx did.
	It's an utter and complete perversion of what came before.
	Right.
	He flips it upside down.
	And the irony is the American people can't figure this out, right?
	So the dead giveaway to Marx, right, is when they want to tear down the statue.
	Yes.
	They don't have anyone to put up in its place.
	So they ripped down the Bible.
	What book do they have?
	They ripped down the philosophy.
	What philosophy do they have?
	They ripped down the Constitution and the police.
	What Constitution do they have?
	They ripped down the free market economic system.
	Name your economist.
	Right?
	So it's a total intellectual fraud.
	Well, Dave, they do have one statue.
	They do have one statue.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They put up a statue to George Floyd.
	Yeah, well, I knew something was coming, right?
	I know.
	Seven-time convicted felon.
	Yeah, right, and so that's what we're debating, and you can't get a debate with them.
	They're smarter than we are.
	The Judeo-Christian tradition has one weakness that is our strength, and it's love, right?
	We actually do follow God, and we cannot act like barbarians like the left does.
	We don't write in the streets when we don't get our way.
	And so they're winning in the short run, but the American suburbs are finally, I think, waking up to some of this.
	And it's about time.
	So what's making them wake up?
	I have this theory that it's the apolitical suburban mothers finally being shocked to their core by the extremism of the transgender agenda.
	What are you seeing?
	You're right there on the cutting edge.
	You're teaching.
	What is the trigger?
	What is the catalyst for the wake up?
	Well, I hate to say it, because it's just an indictment of human nature, but they're finally getting hit personally in some way.
	We got a good, good friend that just converted to being conservative this week because their kid came down with some ailment right after he got the vaccination.
	And I'm not taking a side on that thing, but she wasn't informed of any of this stuff because the mainstream media won't tell you.
	And when it comes to kids, There's a way different argument, rationally, in your head about vaccinations than if you're 80 years old, right?
	There's two different risk scenarios.
	But hang on, sir.
	No one knows any of it.
	So that turned that person into a conservative?
	The lack of information?
	Yes.
	They're ticked.
	She's ticked off.
	Her kid now, and they went to the doctor, and they said, well, what can we do about this?
	I forget.
	There's some technical name with the heart behavior.
	And the doctor said, we don't know, because it's experimental.
	And she's like, what?
	Right?
	And so, people have to learn the hard way, and then they gotta lose their small business, they gotta have their street torn down, they gotta have Monument Avenue torn down to Richmond, they gotta have the whole food district ripped down, and it's like, hey, maybe it wasn't so bad with old Dave Brat back in the office in the first place.
	See?
	See?
	He's gonna run.
	Dave's gonna run.
	Can we say you announced it here first, Dave?
	There's plenty of good people you've run.
	Are you serious?
	I just signed a four-year contract.
	Although, Governor of Virginia, I'm interested in that.
	Would you support me if I ran for Governor of Virginia?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we need a conservative in there.
	All right, let's chat about that.
	Let's get you back in studio for an hour.
	That was far too short.
	He's Dave Brack, Liberty University Dean of the Business School and an all-around good egg.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Look who's on Fox.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Titles.
	Um... The Vaccine Turned Her Conservative.
	Alright.
	And Kirpin and Boris.
	Um...
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	The masks are back.
	Alright.
	For Boris.
	The COVID magic of the USA.
	Senate.
	All right.
	Got it.
	Did you see that New York Times guest essay?
	Yeah.
	You don't have to be a citizen to vote.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	That's when you realize.
	I think we need to have a serious conversation about what it means to be a citizen and what a citizenry is.
	And I think, well, BDH wrote about that.
	Yeah.
	It's just a very, it's a very dry discussion for most people.
	It's important, but it's, it's hard to make it scintillating.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Yeah, like the average Trump voter doesn't want to hear, you know, about philosophy or, you know, the definition.
	I think it's less philosophy and more just about, you know, being a building block, like a civic building block, you know?
	Like a republic is based on its members, you know?
	Sure, but I mean...
	But everything that attaches the individual to the Republic is totally... It's all been evaporated, so it's hard to make that claim.
	We just don't have a national identity anymore, quite frankly.
	We don't really even know what to say, what America is anymore.
	It's a place.
	We have a national identity, it's called America First.
	It's called MAGA!
	The I in America First stands for identity?
	I don't know.
	Sorry.
	All right.
	Is he calling us or are we calling him?
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	I get to call him.
	It's Friday.
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	Our special Second Amendment guest this Friday is a man who makes perhaps the sexiest gun in America today.
	It's called the Honey Badger, and he is Kevin Brittingham from Q Firearms.
	Kevin, welcome to America First.
	Hey, thanks for having me again.
	How are you doing?
	Good, good, good, good.
	What's it like?
	Let me just start.
	I don't think I asked you this the last time around.
	What's it like to make the sexiest gun that everybody wants?
	Man, it feels good.
	I mean, it feels good.
	It feels good to support our industry.
	It feels good to be within our industry, the cutting edge of innovation.
	It feels good to support the Second Amendment.
	So this weapon, the Honey Badger, of which I have only one, sadly, but, you know, it's a start.
	I will expand my collection at some point.
	It was, and tell me, I'm just going to tell you what I know about it.
	It's an incredible weapon.
	It was designed, or the first version was designed as a silenced platform with a more effective round than the 9mm to replace the venerable MP5SD, the integrally silenced submachine gun used by our special operators.
	Is that a good summary?
	Have I missed something out?
	No, it's an excellent summary of what it was.
	It was designed, that was an aging weapon within the U.S.
	arsenal, and it was designed to replace that to give something with better terminal performance in a lighter, smaller package.
	And now you've developed this for civilian use.
	It's available as a short-barreled rifle.
	It's available integrally suppressed.
	It's available as a braced pistol.
	Tell us a little bit about the other weapons that you and your colleagues at Kew have developed since then.
	Yeah, we've developed a lot of stuff over the years, including we brought the .300 Blackout cartridge to the commercial and military markets.
	We developed the Honey Badger.
	One of the latest things that we've developed is the FIX rifle, which is a bolt-action rifle that's a utility rifle that's great for hunting, for target shooting, competitive shooting, just a very useful weapon.
	We're developing new cartridges now, optics, lots of new things to support the industry and the American shooter.
	And the Fix is a very small envelope weapon, correct?
	Folding stock, very compact.
	It is, yes.
	We're using a lot of modern manufacturing techniques and a lot of material choices that were not available, you know, 50, 60, 70 years ago when a lot of the mainstream weapons were designed and produced.
	And so we're able to offer smaller, lighter, you know, more compact packages, better ergonomics.
	into the market to kind of take small arms to the next generation, so to speak.
	Guys, if you haven't tried out a honey badger from the guys at liveqordie.com, you've got to.
	Last time I took it to the range, I mixed up my supersonic with my subsonic, and this thing just eats them all.
	It is incredible.
	The website is liveqordie.com, liveqordie.com.
	Let's talk about you and your brave assault on the fascistic bureaucrats here in Washington, D.C.
	Here's a little cut from the man who they want to be the head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, David Chipman.
	Cut one, play cut.
	With respect to the AR-15, I support a ban as has been presented in a Senate bill and supported by the President.
	The AR-15 is a gun I was issued on ATF's SWAT team and it's a particularly lethal weapon and regulating it as other particularly lethal weapons I have advocated for He wants to ban the weapon you sell to American civilians as part of the Second Amendment that provides you and your colleagues your livelihood.
	You and SB Tactical have been very prominent fighting to keep the braced pistols legal in America.
	What's the latest on that, Kevin?
	Have we won that fight?
	Is there still things that need to be done?
	Well, I think supporting groups like Firearms Policy Coalition that are actually taking it to the ATF and municipalities, and the politicians that are trying to infringe the Second Amendment rights is an important thing.
	I think the fight is not over for that.
	It's not over even currently.
	As you know, they went after us last year, and we fought them, and we got them to back off, and now they're going after the entire industry.
	And America needs to wake up.
	These political hot topics that these people use, like this shipment to go after our guns and our rights, it needs to be addressed.
	Americans need to stand up.
	They just spew fallacies and ignorance, and they prey on people's ignorance of small arms or the Constitution.
	And I don't know, maybe it's an argument for limiting his First Amendment rights.
	You've been around this industry, you've been around guns a long time.
	We're talking to the man who brings us the honey badger, the fixed rifle.
	Check them out, liveqordie.com.
	That's liveqordie.com.
	Every cycle we see these calls, we see people saying this is it, this is the end.
	However, this time it really is more serious than it has been before, no?
	I think it is getting more serious.
	I mean, I think, you know, the politicians on the left, too, are seeing weakness within the NRA.
	And I'm very thankful for other organizations, like I said, FPC, Stand Up, and to see a younger generation of people within this nation start fighting, you know, people wanting to infringe on our Second Amendment rights.
	And that's an exciting thing.
	So I think the ATF and the liberals have a fight on their hands, but we can't let up.
	You know, we've got to keep applying the pressure.
	Get engaged.
	Join one of those organizations.
	Keep the pressure on because it is the only amendment to our Constitution that keeps all of our civil rights possible.
	The Second Amendment is number one, and it makes all the others possible.
	Check out these guys, liveqordie.com.
	The weapons are the Honey Badger, the Sugar Weasel, the Fix, and the Minifix 300 Blackout.
	Thank you, Mr. Brittingham.
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	The End
	A loser.
	I'm in a bad place.
	I'm on Kevin's website.
	So many guns, so little time.
	That's my motto.
	Jeff, what have we got to play before Jim Hansen rolls into studio?
	What is the cut we have to squeeze in before our special forces buddy takes over the airwaves?
	Short six.
	Six?
	Oh, really?
	Don Lemon?
	Okay, this is for a black man.
	He shouldn't really be pro-segregation, but I think he is.
	Don Lemon of CNN.
	Cut six!
	You gotta start telling people, if you don't get vaccinated, you can't come into this office or this place of business.
	If you don't get vaccinated, you can't come to work.
	If you don't get vaccinated, you can't come into this gym.
	If you don't get vaccinated, you can't come into this, get onto this airplane.
	What is it with Cuomo's face?
	For those not aware, Cuomo looks like he's got a rod up his bottom and it looks like he's just facially, I don't know, he's a wax doll or something.
	You watch these guys now and again, don't you Jeff?
	Yeah, that's the crossover they do for, like, 20 minutes every night.
	And you love it, don't you?
	Yes, it's the best part.
	Does Fredo just always, like, stare like that into the camera?
	A lot of times, yeah, because a lot of times, even for Fredo, Don Lemon says things and he thinks it's stupid, but he won't say anything and he just gets that look.
	Are you telling... No, I do not believe it.
	Are you telling me that Don Lemon is more of a cretin than Fredo Cuomo?
	At least Fredo thinks that.
	You can tell because I watch this.
	You can tell when Cuomo, he just kind of gets out of the conversation, he doesn't say anything, that it's even too crazy for him what Don Lemon's saying.
	Wow.
	That's saying something.
	When you are too much of a moron even for the man who is the dumbest person in media until that point.
	I'm so glad I have a man who watches these things for me and just brings us the best clips because truly, I couldn't watch it.
	My blood pressure couldn't take it.
	It's just not worth it.
	But he is invincible.
	He is Mr. G and he can take it and he brings us the best cuts every single day.
	Kevin is right.
	If you believe in this nation, it's not just about being involved in politics, being informed, listening to this radio station, checking out your other information sources, not just social media.
	I hope it's not just social media, but good podcasts, great writers, Let's all, all of us, no matter what our personal proclivities, get engaged on the issue of the Second Amendment.
	It's like the virtues, if I may make a theological analogy.
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	Today, it is an individual who has served this nation.
	He has worn the cloth of the Republic.
	And now, I don't know what's the best description.
	He's just kind of a Professional troublemaker, Jim Hansen, is that good?
	How about a provocateur and a counter-revolutionary?
	Provocateur extraordinaire.
	How about that?
	I like that.
	We've got so much to discuss with him.
	He's got his new book.
	He's a very prolific individual.
	It's winning the second Civil War.
	Calm down, Media Matters.
	Without firing a shot.
	Don't get your panties in a twist, Zach Patriso.
	It's okay.
	Although this man does know, he does know how to shoot a weapon because... Let's start with that.
	Jim Hansen, in a prior life, what did you do?
	I've been accused of being an airborne oboe player in the army band.
	But that was the cover, right?
	Yeah, that was my cover.
	Actually, I was a special forces weapons NCO, so I was supposed to know about the guns.
	I was better at pulling the trigger than taking them apart, though.
	You didn't do that blindfold race, that reassembly thing?
	No, I did.
	I did that one time to pass out of the course.
	You had to take the five guns, put them in a pile, and they played a Jeopardy theme, which was hilarious.
	Oh, fun!
	Yeah, the tacks would be... And you're like...
	Springs flying.
	So I had an RS7 when I was in the reserves with a regimental sergeant major who's God.
	I mean, he is just God.
	This guy, I remember his name.
	His name was Nick Butt, former SAS guy.
	Literally, his knuckles would drag.
	Smart guy, but he had these super long arms.
	Hardcore dude.
	And he was so pissed.
	So pissed.
	Because they didn't know.
	I was a long head philosophy student when I volunteered for the reserves.
	So I roll up to basic training, get a haircut, and then we have the weapons training.
	And I'd shot guns all my life.
	And the Browning Hi-Power is one of my favorites.
	When I beat him in the rapid reassembly of the Hi-Power, the RSM...
	He may have had that cool badge on his wrist with the crown, but he was not a happy puppy.
	They used to call him Screamin' Skulls, was the Brit army guys I worked with.
	Screamin' Skulls?
	Screamin' Skulls.
	Ran on caffeine and nicotine.
	The hardcore guys love them all.
	Nick, if you're still with us, good times.
	Don't take it personally.
	Okay, so you were weps.
	You were the weapons guy in the Green Berets.
	How many years in?
	Oh God, 15?
	Wow.
	And now you are all over the place, social media.
	You are, of course, the head of the Security Studies Group.
	I love that.
	SSG.
	And you think that there's a civil war occurring.
	I don't think there's really any question there is, and we're losing.
	So I think that's the real reason I wrote the book, is I segued from national security to domestic security.
	Because as you recall, the oath says against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
	I think our biggest enemies right now are inside the country.
	I think they are right now trying to fundamentally transform it into something the founders would not only not recognize, but would despise.
	And I think we should stop them.
	So, let's start with the latest.
	I was on radio this morning with our buddies at Breitbart, and the news was that Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, former general.
	Tool.
	What?
	Tool.
	Yes, indeed.
	In not the good sense of the word as in useful.
	The other sense of the word, tool, is in Asia, and he, as Secretary of Defense, As a black Secretary of Defense, he is publicly and a bilateral, in his capacity as a member of the Biden cabinet, berating America for its anti-Asian racism problem.
	Which is ironic because if Americans realize who the anti-Asian racists are, I noticed something.
	You noticed something, right?
	The latest, the woman killed in New York.
	Every time I see this photograph of another member of the minority committing a crime, the only thing I tweet I think you might have noticed is, quote-unquote, more white supremacy, Jim.
	And it's not.
	That's the sad thing.
	If you read the Biden domestic terrorism and domestic extremism strategy, it specifically talks only about domestic extremists, white supremacists, or militias.
	And it doesn't say a word about Black Lives Matter.
	It doesn't say a word about Antifa.
	And it ignores the fact that a lot of the violence against other minorities is committed by the one minority they're all trying to coddle.
	And I'm sorry, let's have a little reality.
	You know, if you want to play this game, let's talk about what people are doing.
	Let's not segregate and discriminate based on skin color.
	Right.
	And when we talk about these new boogeymen, we have Mark Milley talk about wanting to understand white rage, the cause of January 6th, the quote-unquote insurrection.
	When we have Admiral Gilday, the most senior naval officer in America, talk about the persistent racism inside the Navy.
	And then we have West Point teaching critical race theory.
	The question is, what is the end goal of all of this?
	When are we going to have an address of real radicalism?
	Let me ask you, you've got years and years and years in the Green Berets, in the U.S.
	Army.
	Just in a rough, I mean, how many dozen or how many hundreds of white supremacists did you come across, Jim?
	I met one.
	You met one?
	Yeah, I met one guy who was yet, in all that time, I met one guy.
	He was a jerk.
	Everybody knew it.
	And it was almost a joke.
	You know, he was a comically bad white supremacist.
	So when SecDefAustin ordered, first thing he ordered, a 60-day shutdown of the U.S.
	military, couldn't you have just sent him the name of this guy?
	Yeah, we all could have pointed.
	It's that dude.
	No, I think the problem, Seb, is you asked what is the endgame.
	The endgame is state control.
	The methodology they're using is the army as a social engineering laboratory.
	Yes.
	Because you can order the military to do things you can't make civilians do.
	Right.
	So they're doing it.
	And they're getting away with it.
	I don't know why we somehow assumed that the military was immune to that.
	But even though Sullivan's law, you know, which says any organization that's not explicitly conservative will become liberal over time.
	It's happened to the military.
	And now we've got a woke military that is less capable of fighting wars, deterring our enemies, driving ships without crashing into each other, and spends their time doing pride marches and calling particular members of the military racist.
	It's not helpful, it's a bad idea, and the nice thing is, it's easier to change back than it is in the civilian world.
	Because it is a hierarchical organization.
	Commander-in-Chief, next to the one who comes in, needs to head over to the Pentagon and say, I read your paper, I saw that statement, I saw this, get out.
	Right, you're fired.
	You're done.
	But, I have to ask you, and with your persistent connections in the military, the national security architecture at Bragg and elsewhere, What is this doing to esprit de corps?
	What is this doing to morale in the meantime?
	You look at this situation with the police.
	We're going to do an hour-long special on my Newsmax TV show this Sunday, the Gawker reality check on the defund the police movement and everything else.
	And look, I love Leo's as much as I love, you know, our military.
	But if you hammer, hammer, hammer them, if you don't have their political back, if you defund them, if you use them as a Petri dish for social engineering, what are you going to end up?
	You're going to end up with the good guys who've got skills, Leaving.
	Leaving you with what?
	The guys who can't leave, okay?
	So, yes, it's easier to flip back.
	God willing, we have Donald Trump come back into the White House.
	But what are you hearing in terms of how seriously do people take it now inside the military?
	They're scared.
	I mean, I hate to say it.
	They are scared because you raise your head or up or say the wrong thing and you're toast.
	You know, you rely on, it used to be a meritocracy.
	You know, the military was the ultimate meritocracy.
	You got judged on your physical fitness, your capability to do your job, tested objectively and got promoted based on those things.
	Now you get basically a social media credit score in the military for how much you go ahead and play by their games.
	And if you don't play, you're not going to get promoted.
	So they're scared.
	Morales is crushed.
	Because think about it.
	The one thing the military used to be is you said that we only see one color.
	That's green.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, no.
	Now, first you have to see black, brown, Asian, whatever.
	You know, the panoply of the rainbow flag plus.
	The intersectionality.
	There you go, garbage.
	And you have to look at that first.
	How, when you tell the black troops that the white troops are repressing them, and when you tell the white troops they didn't earn what they earned and know they earned, it was given to them by privilege and by systemic racism, How can you expect them, then, to meld into a coherent, cohesive unit that has good morale and has a spree to core?
	You can't.
	And you don't.
	So they're killing our warfighting capability with that.
	And my contention, having witnessed it, having seen it with five and a half years as a DOD civilian at National Defense University, two and a half years at Quantico at the Marine Corps on faculty at the Marine Corps University, is the higher up the chain you go, I mean basically 05 and above, it becomes basically expected.
	The political correctness, and especially when you get your first star, when you go to the capstone at Fort McNair, they become political animals, Jim.
	Yeah, they become politicians, not even animals.
	I wish they had the animal instinct yet.
	Well, they have the animal instinct of a flock of sheep.
	You know, that's what they have.
	They no longer have the animal instinct of a predatory animal.
	They should be an apex predator.
	I want generals like Patton.
	Yeah.
	You know, I want guys like that who know that their only mission is to scare America's enemies into not even considering fighting us.
	And then if anybody raises their head up to squash them flat, that's done.
	You got the perfume princes.
	You know, as Colonel David Hackworth always called them, who now think that their main mission is to follow the whims of the politicians.
	And I'm sorry, it is sadly emblematic of the problem across the entire US.
	And unfortunately, it's killing our most important institution.
	We need more Ajaxes.
	If you haven't seen it, there's an amazing... I think it's a Hillsdale lecture by our favorite BDH Victor Davis Hanson on pattern American Ajaxes and the need for those figures that are a little bit barbarian, but that's what you need to protect Western civilization.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	We're talking to Uncle Jimbo, Jim Hanson, DC on Twitter.
	His new book we're going to discuss now is Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	Okay, Jim, let's talk about why you wrote this book.
	We're going to go through a couple of the key points in it, but let's start with this concept of civil war.
	Why did you use that phrase?
	Full disclosure, I like to give recognition where recognition is due.
	My good buddy has the morning show on WMAL, Chris Plant, super guy, super radio guy.
	He has been saying I don't know, four years now, five years now, that real civil war is just around the corner.
	Is that why you chose this title?
	I agree.
	Yeah, I think the danger is that real civil war is lurking.
	And in order to stop it, we have to use all of the constitutional capabilities we have left.
	And we have enough of them to win.
	But we either treat this like a figurative war, You know, right now, or we will have a literal one later on.
	We've got to win it politically to stop it happening kinetically.
	And I think we've seen the start, you know, last year, if you didn't look at last year as a brush fire campaign by the left to intimidate, conduct domestic terrorism and be rewarded for it.
	Then you weren't paying attention.
	Right.
	So I don't want our team to do that.
	January 6th was a problem because it was a three hour riot that gave the left a year's worth of ammunition to use against us.
	We're going to talk about, let's dedicate a whole segment talking about January 6th, what it means to you, what really happened and what's happened since then.
	But let's talk about, let's get the worst scenario out of the way first.
	I do not want there to be a second civil war in America.
	600,000 dead in the first one was bad enough.
	However, if there were a real one, wouldn't the good guys win?
	I mean, yes, Antifa are a bunch of violent thugs, but they're good at sucker punches and clocking you from behind.
	Most of them don't know the difference between, you know, an AR-15 and a Hellcat.
	There's a chapter in the book that talks about what would happen if the well-regulated militia, being the able-bodied citizenry capable of carrying arms, rose up against a tyrannical government.
	Now, like you, absolutely last thing I want, and I would do anything in my power to stop it, if it happens, Don't you think that all of the people in the military who really are our team, not the perfume princes, not the politicians, do you think they're going to fight against the citizenry?
	They're not going to.
	No.
	And so this whole scenario that the Swalwells of the world want to bring up, oh, well, what could your AR-15 going to be against the tank?
	Well, I'm not going to go with my AR-15 against a tank.
	I'm going to go to a National Guard base and I'm going to take those guys and we're going to take one of those over and move out from there.
	So, I mean, the idea would not be a force on force of citizens versus the U.S.
	military.
	The first thing you do is you say, if you're in the military and they took away free speech, which would be a prerequisite for me, they took away the Second Amendment.
	Once those two things happen, I don't believe we have a republic anymore.
	And the idea that the man who currently bears the title President of the United States actually says, well, you're going to need F-15s and nuclear weapons.
	The idea that, you know, missile silo officers are going to turn the key on nuclear weapons against Americans.
	I mean, it shows you what they think of their fellow American.
	Oh yeah, it's pure projection.
	As with everything with the left, they're projecting.
	But the idea is, if it ever comes to the point where they actually manage to subvert the First and Second Amendments, first thing we look at is a national divorce.
	Alright, can we do this amicably through a constitutional convention or something and say, you guys hate us, we hate you, let's split the sheets.
	Right?
	Okay, that's number one.
	If for some reason they manage to screw that up and are still putting a thumb down on us and saying, no, you guys will just live.
	Shuttle to the edge of society, and we do revolt, then it's a completely different story.
	And I think it would go the direction of liberty and patriotism, not arugula-chomping, latte-sipping soy boys.
	Yeah, that's why we like him and his Twitter feed.
	Follow him, Jim Hansen, DC.
	The book we are discussing right now is Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	Let's talk about January the 6th.
	We get calls all the time because, you know, the radio show is America First.
	People saying, well, it was a setup and it wasn't MAGA and it was the FBI and Hillary was behind it.
	My take is this.
	People were pissed, rightly so.
	OK, rightly so.
	They went to Congress after President Trump told them to peacefully support what was going inside, to peacefully march there.
	Some yahoos were dumb that day, committed crimes, should pay the penalty.
	Other things occurred which were massively suspicious, such as police officers pulling back barriers, opening doors.
	And then things which were even more suspicious.
	One of the key individuals who photographed or filmed the death of Ashley Babbitt is a Black Lives Matter extremist who calls himself a revolutionary, who called for violent revolution in America on camera.
	And was wearing a Make America Great Again hat that day.
	So what's your take as a national security professional of January the 6th, the so-called insurrection?
	Yeah, I would not call it an insurrection in any way, shape, or form.
	It fits none of the requisites for that.
	And I agree with your characterization.
	I think there were people from our team who broke the law, who committed violent acts, and should be punished for those.
	I don't think they should be punished as if this was the second Civil War and the Fort Sumter moment.
	It was not.
	It was a political rally that got out of hand.
	All right, well, okay.
	How many of those did we look at during 2020, where there were peaceful political rallies that got out of hand, and half the country burned down?
	And nobody seems to be real interested in holding a commission to investigate $2 billion worth of damage, dozens of people killed, and thousands of police officers injured.
	So I don't want to hear that from the left.
	It's garbage.
	We need to take responsibility for it.
	And the thing that worries me, Sebastian, I think they're trying to goad us into a second one.
	That's what they're doing with a lot of the oppressive measures and the social media censorship and all the things the Biden team's doing with their domestic terror strategy.
	They want another flare up to justify more emergency measures.
	And I'm begging everybody, don't give them one.
	Yeah.
	Don't give them one.
	Put every ounce of effort into constitutional means through 2022 and 2024.
	And then after that, let's reevaluate.
	I'm not saying that that means that then we'll go kinetic because I don't think we'll have to.
	I think we're going to win.
	We just haven't been focused on this.
	So stay cool.
	Yeah, don't let them provoke you.
	We'll talk about next year in 2024 in a second with Jim Hansen at Jim Hansen DC.
	But let's talk about this in the... I see everything that's happened in the last six months and specifically what's happened in the last few days with this select committee as an attempt more than to goad us But to truly criminalize conservatism.
	It's not the idiot with Nancy Pelosi's podium.
	If you wore a red hat ever, if you voted for Donald Trump, you are to be put in a category that is to be unpersoned.
	Do you agree?
	Without a doubt.
	And they're showing their cards.
	Thank God they're showing their cards because they're so full of themselves and they're so deluded right now that they're giving us their playbook.
	So when Biden did publish his domestic terror strategy, he admitted in that that they're going to partner with the social media companies to go ahead and censor conservative speech.
	Then Jen Psaki brags about it from the podium, the little freckle-faced fascist.
	And that was another beautiful moment for us because every time they do that, people can't ignore it anymore.
	So they are literally outsourcing the censorship they can't do under the First Amendment to Silicon Valley and creating a national thought police under contract to the Biden administration.
	And not only that, admitting that they will be using private companies to scour the social media accounts of serving military personnel.
	Right, because right now they want to create a hate speech exemption and an extreme speech exemption that allows them to push the window of what is actually before was terrorism and material support for terrorism into now what should be and actually is protected political speech.
	Right.
	And our protected political speech is the only one they're interested in.
	They're not interested in the other guys.
	No, outlawing political, political dissent is the target here.
	All right, the book is Winning the Second Civil War Without Winning a Shot and we're talking to Jim Hanson.
	Jim, let's go a little bit more in depth into the current situation.
	You have a chapter here, The War of Ideas.
	Why is it that conservatives Do not understand, even now, years after he has left us, what Andrew Breitbart taught us, and what Reagan taught us.
	That the facts aren't enough, you've got to communicate them.
	I've been searching every day now, two and a half years on my radio show for somebody to tell me, why did we seemingly consciously drop the ball on this one?
	I wish I had a great answer as to why.
	My favorite quote from Andrew has always been, politics is downstream of culture.
	And what they did is they started in the culture.
	They started creating television shows and they'd insinuate things that they wanted to socially engineer into those shows and they'd catch a little bit of flack for it.
	There'd be headlines for a day and then there'd be more the next season.
	Then they took over academia, and they did the same thing.
	They started in universities, then they trained the next generation of teachers to believe the Marxist and Maoist-based concepts that make up wokeism, and now they're teaching those at the kindergarten and up level.
	So by doing that, they have snuck a march behind us And took over the minds of the next generation.
	So we've got three plus generations now who don't know the facts about the founding of this country, who don't understand why we have federalism.
	Why does the Constitution exist?
	Why is it not just a dusty old parchment written by bald white guys in wigs?
	Well, it's the most Second best document after the Bible on Earth.
	So because of that, we have to reteach those things.
	So the War of Ideas says we can't assume that anybody younger than you and me actually knows this.
	Gen X is the last generation that was taught about America.
	After that, they were taught that America is bad.
	America last.
	So now we get back to teaching them.
	No, actually, America first.
	We're exceptional because individual liberty trumps state control.
	And the war of ideas is our individual liberty as exemplified by the founding documents in this country versus statism and totalitarian authoritarianism that they believe is what we need to control people who don't do what they want.
	Okay, that's the conservative world.
	Let's go inside that into actives.
	My contention, Jim, is that the GOP is the second biggest problem.
	I have a fear that after Donald Trump left politics or was forced out of politics, a lot of establishment people went, now we can get back to being the puppy dogs of the Democrats.
	How much of an obstacle do you see to that mission of getting us back to where we should be, the actual GOP establishment?
	The biggest obstacle on our side by far.
	And I would equate them to, we were talking about the Pentagon, they're the perfumed princes who would rather do the bidding and be beloved by the political class than to do the hard work, the pragmatic work that needs to be done.
	And so we're going to have to push them out of the way.
	You know, and that's one of the things we can do.
	One of the things that really makes me feel good is I feel a groundswell now.
	People have had enough.
	You know, there's plenty.
	There's COVID.
	Because of CRT and COVID?
	All of it.
	All of it.
	And they're mad.
	And they're like, what can we do?
	But are people building on that?
	I think so.
	I think there's more instances of people taking control of things that before because one of the contentions in the book is that we were focused on national security, foreign policy and business and families.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	They were focused on fundamentally transforming America.
	All right.
	We did our job.
	They did their job.
	All right.
	The problem is now they're actually in sight of toppling the republic.
	So we have to focus on what they were doing and stop that fundamental transformation.
	I think people see that now.
	It had to get bad enough.
	It's like most things, there's a tipping point.
	It had to get bad enough that all of a sudden people saw, well, wait a minute, they're forcing us to get experimental drugs.
	They're locking down schools.
	They're doing all the things they did with COVID.
	They're teaching them racist things.
	And all of this is happening right in front of our eyes, and it can't be ignored anymore.
	Really, they've roused the silent majority who will be silent no more.
	We have to build upon it, and we have to build upon it now.
	So, Jim, you've written a new book.
	It's called Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	I'm going to ask you... Let's talk about first things first.
	Social media.
	You understand information operations.
	You understand irregular warfare.
	Do conservatives have an answer for the social media challenge?
	Because we hear all this title, you know, Section 230.
	We hear break it up.
	I don't see anything happening, even if we win the House and the Senate.
	So what is the right answer?
	Is it creating these conservative ghettos of, you know, ghetto, parlor and rumble?
	I think we have to.
	I mean, I don't think that's the solution, but it has to be part of it.
	Look at the Soviet Union.
	They invented something called Samizdat, which was passing information around underground because they couldn't pass it above ground.
	That's how they built something that got to be above ground.
	So you have to do that.
	I think we also have to fight every place we can and refuse to accept the fact that they did us a favor with this partnership with government.
	Because that's illegal.
	That's literally there is a case somewhere in the 70s that said you can't as government coerce or partner, collude with private companies to do things you're not allowed to do as government.
	Right.
	All right.
	They're doing that right now.
	What Jen Psaki said is exhibit number one for Donald Trump's case.
	His lawsuit's not my favorite thing, the way it's set up, but he was absolutely right.
	The colonel in the middle of that lawsuit that says the government is now using social media to do things it can't do to shut down political speech?
	100% correct.
	Why do you not like the way the class action was set up?
	I don't know.
	The lawyers I know don't like it.
	So I'll jump out of that quickly because I don't know enough to argue that point.
	But I'm glad it's filed.
	And now what we need is we need more and we need the lawyers who think they know how to win cases on other things to file more because that's what the lawfare is legal you know that's one way that's one of our constitutional means so file lawsuits another good angle is consumer law A lot of states.
	And that's where we can do things at state level since we don't have federal power now.
	So the states should be passing laws like Ron DeSantis did, one of my favorite governors, and Abbott in Texas.
	They're getting stuff done that says you're not allowed to discriminate in our state based on political affiliation.
	And your terms of service say you don't.
	So now there's a tort that people can use to sue in those states.
	And they should be right now.
	If you're a rich person on the right or a libertarian or some of these Bitcoin guys, Give money to do that because they do.
	We need to sue.
	We need to make it too hard and too costly for the tech companies to continue what they're doing.
	That's how we beat them in the end.
	Let's talk about the other side for a second.
	Jim, to win any war, kinetic or otherwise, Sun Tzu taught us two and a half thousand years ago that you've got to understand the enemy.
	You've got to understand why you're fighting and who you are, but you've got to understand the enemy and what they believe and what their strategy is.
	I have a contention and I haven't used this with you.
	I want you to be a kind of sanity check on me.
	Things are a little different in comparison to the Clinton years and to the Obama years.
	The left today is super dangerous.
	I mean, they are out of control, whether it's 2 million illegals across the border, whether it is packing the Supreme Court, lowering the voting age, on and on.
	It is a sucking chest wound to the Republic.
	However, there's a peculiarity to the current situation whereby They have no Kissinger.
	They don't even have an Axelrod.
	The current Democrat party are hardcore ideologues.
	Kamala Harris is the perfect example.
	They're hardcore ideologues like AOC or cretins like Kamala.
	I mean, really dumb, quantitatively dumb people, which is dangerous.
	I mean, if you've got an ideology or you give in to ideologues and you're stupid, you can be just as dangerous as many others.
	But do you share this analysis that there's no Machiavelli on the left right now?
	The inmates are running the asylum.
	Okay.
	And good for us.
	I would much rather have idiots than enemies.
	But you've got to exploit that.
	Well, okay, then let's do.
	And here's how.
	The nice thing is, one of the things I go through in the book is kind of the progression from the Cold War to the current time.
	And I start the activist age in Obama because Black Lives Matter was born during his time.
	He was a community organizer.
	Trayvon looks like my son.
	The police acted stupidly.
	He told the activists that their causes were just.
	And so they were still, but they'd been slowly doing it.
	And then it bumped up during Obama.
	And then when Trump came in, in a lot of ways, as the antidote to what Obama had been doing to the country, They lost their minds.
	They ripped the masks off and they said, you're damn right, we do hate this country and we want to burn it down and build a new one.
	And that did us the biggest favor they could do us because people needed to see that.
	They seemed reasonable before.
	Can't we all just get along?
	Shouldn't we care about poor people and minorities and women?
	Yes, those things are real and true.
	While they were doing that, they were also sliding their socialism in with it.
	But it was subtle.
	They lost that.
	Trump made them crazy.
	And so now we have the crazies ascendant and God bless them.
	Good, please show that.
	Fly the freak flag and that'll tell our team who we're actually dealing with and make them more likely to fight.
	On that issue, the freak flag, it's also my belief that outside of Covid shutdowns, parents seeing the insanity of CRT on their kids' Zoom classes, one of the biggest good triggers is this extremist transgender agenda.
	White suburban mums are going to say, What?
	What?
	That hairy guy's using my daughter's restroom?
	Do you think that also that could be one of the good catalysts?
	Absolutely.
	You know, and I don't care what someone does.
	If you wanted me to call you Susie, you know, and I just out of decency myself, I'd call you Susie.
	Yes.
	I wouldn't believe you were Susie.
	Right.
	But also you wouldn't agree to the government forcing you.
	No, no.
	I don't believe the government forced me to do anything.
	That's why Jordan Peterson's famous, right?
	Really?
	Because he said, OK, I would call you that out of politeness, but the Canadian state ordering me to and calling it a crime if I don't?
	Uh-uh.
	Right.
	And that's where your point about suburban moms, they're like, I am perfectly willing to treat people nicely and politely because I'm a decent person.
	You can't tell me I have to believe that someone can change their mind and change their sex.
	So they made gender.
	The words that now make up gender are meaningless.
	They're absolutely, positively meaningless, which was unhelpful to being able to understand people.
	But you can't change XX to XY with the power of your mind.
	And telling people they have to pretend that's true is another thing they're doing to drive people into our camp.
	And again, please do.
	Yeah, I think we just have your new tweet, Jim Hansen's tweet.
	You cannot change XX chromosomes to XY chromosomes through the power of your mind.
	It is science denial.
	We're seeing a lot of science denial, aren't we, with regards to masks?
	Oh, God, I can't believe they're gonna try this again.
	Thank you.
	Again, I thank you for idiots for our thing, because the numbers don't justify it.
	So that's the thing.
	This is so I kind of studied under the head of my department when I when I taught at National Defense University, the head of our department, the war and conflict studies department was a A guy who'd physically been to every bloody insurgency on the planet, even as a plebe at West Point, he took the summers off to go to Laos, which is nuts, okay?
	And he said one of the rules of irregular warfare, and we are in the midst of an irregular political war, is the insurgent, and you call us the resurgence in your book, The resurgence, the insurgent, plays for the breaks.
	When the other side are cretins, good, exploit their cretinism.
	As you said, when they rip off the mask, that's when you shine a very bright light on their blood-stained fangs and their admission of who they are.
	Okay, good.
	All right, Jim Hansen, the book is Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	You go through numerous action items with regards to the election last year, the warfare of politics, the flip of von Clausewitz.
	You talk of a resurgent right and the counterattack.
	Let's talk about the man that forced the left to take their mask off, and that's my old boss, President Trump.
	I can't be convinced to change my mind because three years is a lifetime in politics, but at the moment I want him back in office and I'm sure, I know he's going to run.
	Because the situation is so bad in this stinking city that we have to have a berserker in chief.
	We have to have, as you said, a guy who hires people like you or Kirchlichter to go into the Pentagon and fire those generals if they are are ministers of wokeism.
	We need to have departments shut down.
	We need to have departments move to Wyoming.
	That's why I support him.
	I don't know if he'd be a berserker-in-chief.
	He was pretty good at crushing the China last time.
	Where do you see the future of the 45th president?
	Like you said, it has to be a member of the fighting wing.
	It's a Trump will do the job.
	I think he had issues with not bringing the people I think he needed into office.
	I think he listened too much to certain people very close to him who gave him bad advice about personnel, so he would have to fix that problem to get my full support, but I would vote for him 100%.
	Did one thing no one else could have done at a very pivotal moment that I believe saved the Republic.
	He beat Hillary Clinton.
	Yes.
	All right.
	No one else in the Republican Party could have done that.
	And because of that, we got 250 federal judges and three SCOTUS justices.
	Can you imagine if there were three more, you know, Sotomayors or Kagans?
	editing the Constitution, we would have speech codes.
	Hate speech would be exempt from the First Amendment, and they would be busy with Beto O'Rourke knocking on my door.
	Bad idea.
	Trying to confiscate guns.
	So he saved the Republic, and I believe he could do the same again.
	I believe there are others who could too.
	Like I said, huge fan of Ron DeSantis.
	I think he has shown executive skills that have been exactly what we called for a lot of times that I wish Donald Trump had done.
	But I don't care.
	I'm going to back our guy because this is a team sport.
	And whoever it is, if they don't come from the fighting wing, we are going to be in a world of hurt.
	We could potentially lose this.
	Let's talk about that one issue you raised.
	I saw it up close.
	It was bad.
	It's not just the advice the President was given within the White House.
	The challenge we face, should he win again, is I don't see anybody building a bench.
	We didn't have a bench.
	There was like 20 of us real MAGA guys in senior positions in the White House.
	Who's going to build the bench for America first, Jim?
	I would tell you right now, we're working on that.
	I have friends, a lot of whom you know, and we are trying right now to beat the RNC out of the way and let the donors know that there are competent professionals who understand the fight we're in and who know how to do information warfare, who know how to deal with federal agencies, who know how to deal with the media, to fight the social media wars.
	And instead of giving money to the RNC, Give money to organizations that are made up of the fighting wing of our party.
	And I'm sorry, there's nothing happening in the RNC right now that is helpful to our cause.
	So the sooner that the people who fund the right as a whole recognize that, And the sooner we reach out to the libertarian right, the Bitcoin millionaires, the people who see that stuff, and they start putting their money into this so that they don't end up living in a socialist woke paradise, the better capable we'll be doing it.
	There are people working this issue.
	And I just would like to encourage people to reach out.
	I'll point you their way.
	All right.
	I am very, very happy to hear that news.
	Jim, on the issue of the bench, you're taking action.
	But I qualify that with the last 30 or 40 years of spending on the conservative movement.
	It has been a disaster.
	If I see another, I love the Washington Times, but if I see another billionaire suggest we need another full-page ad in the Washington Times.
	You do know who reads the Washington Times, right?
	You do know the circulation.
	You do know it's a newspaper and this is 2021.
	So are you seeing, and I'm not interested in names, are you seeing people with money who understand we have to do things differently in the age of Twitter, Facebook and, you know, AOC?
	Yes, but the problem is still there is a political class that I call the idiot cousins at the country club, you know, who run political consulting firms who bill $500 an hour to do a 30 second dark flashing red voiceover political ad.
	Who never lose.
	No, and that's the problem.
	So I think there's a, if the message is anything, it's there is a new warfare underway.
	It is information warfare.
	It is something that I, the reason I left national security is because I know how to fight this fight.
	We used to do it overseas in support of US strategic interests.
	And guess what?
	You don't know a single thing.
	No one in this audience could point to a single place where my fingerprints exist on things we did because we're good at it.
	I'm bringing that mentality and putting with the other people I know who fight like that together the kind of team that is going to fight to win in ways that matter now, not in ways that matter when Eisenhower was president.
	It's called Winning the Second Civil War.
	It's got a blurb from some guy called Kurt Schlichter, so it might be good.
	Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	The book is by Jim Hansen, our guest.
	Follow him on Twitter at jimhansendc.
	Jim, last big question I think.
	It's so nice to have a discussion with somebody who not only cares for the nation, who not only served the nation, but who understands the practicalities of winning political wars.
	Not just the back and forth pendulum of elections, but actual political warfare in the interest of the Constitution.
	Let's go to something a little bit more metaphysical.
	After the last 18 months and it's really it's it's shocked me and it's saddened me as a man who chose America as as the land I want to live in and be a citizen of the extent of cowardice under COVID.
	Yeah.
	Just this sheer idea that every business except A dozen or so would actually comply with things that are illegal.
	You cannot shut down business just because, just because.
	The idea that people are still putting masks on their little children at playgrounds, devoid of any, in fact, devoid of any common sense, because we know that the mortality rate for children is 0.05%.
	So talk to me about whether or not it's as bad as I see it and what we're going to do about that deficit of courage.
	It is as bad as you've seen it.
	And it's partly that they're pushing and have been training the populist to be sheep.
	Because they don't believe in individual liberty.
	They don't believe in the exceptionalism that is this country was founded to make sure the state can never tell us what to do.
	Literally.
	That's the whole reason.
	We fought a war, we won, wrote a constitution for that simple reason.
	And we've lost that.
	In a large way.
	As a country, we've lost it.
	We haven't lost it because there are 75 to 100 million of us who in some way, shape or form are willing to do it.
	Now, the left are flock animals.
	They're sheep.
	They're happy with that.
	It makes them feel good.
	They're comfortable.
	They don't want to be separated.
	And our problem is you always hear eagles don't flock.
	Okay.
	Yeah, cool.
	Great term.
	Yeah, you're a super cool eagle guy.
	But lions hunt in packs, all right?
	So get yourself in a pack with other like-minded apex predators.
	And if you're not an apex predator, hide behind one.
	Walk behind one.
	Support one.
	You know, get behind the people who know this game, and then start pushing back.
	Because we're right.
	That's the advantage we have.
	Our ideas are right.
	Our ideas are constitutional.
	Our ideas work.
	Theirs don't.
	Yeah.
	So stand up and think of a shield wall.
	Go Viking with this, right?
	I'm Hanson, Swanson, Pearson.
	I'm 100% Viking.
	All right?
	I play this game.
	Link arms at a shield wall and you're stronger.
	All right?
	So if you want to band together, don't separate yourself and think you're alone.
	You're stronger with your friends.
	So tell them.
	Bring them to the school board meeting.
	Bring them to the city council meeting.
	Tell them to vote.
	Tell them to talk.
	Tell them to fight.
	So this is exactly what I wanted to end on.
	What the left so geniusly did with the Open Society Foundations of George Soros, with the prosecutors, elections they supported, they really, I mean, it was a bumper sticker, politics is local.
	They turned it into a platform for warfare.
	They turned it into a way of life.
	Isn't that the answer?
	That we, you know, national politics is sexy and we live in the swamp and it's cool and it makes it onto the news, but really it's irrelevant.
	We take back the Republic one school district, one local supervisor-selectman election at a time, correct?
	Absolutely.
	And if we don't take back education, we'll never win the game.
	So that's the place to go.
	And that's where I'm heartened.
	I see a lot more fights at school board meetings than we did before.
	And now they're calling them out.
	What do you mean you're teaching this?
	Let me see the curriculum.
	You can't do that.
	I want cameras in the classroom.
	You're not allowed to hide from us this indoctrination of America's youth anymore.
	And that to me, if you start there and then go to the city council and move it on up the food chain, yeah.
	And then we get to vote for president and we can have fun with the political national game.
	But local has to start first and it's easier.
	So do it.
	The book is Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot.
	Jim Hansen is the author.
	Follow him, Jim Hansen, DC.
	Also, he is the president of the Security Studies Group.
	Last message to those out there who just happened to come across this podcast, this video.
	What is your message to them?
	They may not know, you know, what irregular warfare is, but they may be concerned about the future of the nation they live in.
	There is no safe space on the sidelines anymore.
	I don't care what you do, but do something.
	Get in the fight and we will win this.
	We are not going to lose to the left.
	All right.
	They are no match for our ideas and our people.
	So, like I said, get in the fight.
	Get engaged and we will win.
	Thank you, Uncle Jimbo.
	All right.

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