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July 29, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Will you comply with the mask mandate?

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	2 million illegals crossing the border by the end of this year.
	Inflation and hyperinflation potentially just around the corner and now mandatory vaccinations for federal workers and masks back in Well, it's weird.
	It's only the House, but not the Senate.
	How do we understand any of this?
	Let's talk to a true patriot.
	She's fighting every single day for Tennessee and the Republic, and we are honored to have her open the show with us today.
	Senator Marsha Blackburn, welcome to America First.
	I'm delighted to join you.
	Thank you.
	So it's just been published.
	I've put it on my Twitter and Facebook pages.
	Nancy Pelosi has ordered the Capitol Police to start arresting people, staff members or visitors in the house who are not wearing a mask.
	Is there some kind of magical force field between the Senate and the House that you as Senators don't have to wear masks?
	I don't want to be a science denier, but I'm curious.
	Well, what Nancy Pelosi is doing is trying to put people in lockdown, keep them out of the Capitol and the office buildings.
	And you know the Democrats, anything to keep you locked down, to take your freedom away, that's what they're going to do.
	But here is what we do know.
	Well, what people are basically saying is, get government out of my way.
	I've had it.
	We're done with this.
	Right.
	And what they're looking for is just getting back to their lives.
	They are tired of this, Sebastian, and they don't want these government mandates being forced on them.
	They want to be able to go back to their lives.
	They've gotten their vaccinations.
	You know, we've got, I think it's 139 million people in this country that have gotten the vaccine.
	And we have millions that have had coven and have antibodies and even with the delta variant, people are saying.
	This is ridiculous.
	You know, my family, I think just about everybody's had the vaccine.
	People don't want, the children don't want to have to go back to wearing masks and putting people in school, children in school, and forcing them to wear masks is not what people are wanting to see.
	No, follow her right now at Marsha Blackburn on Twitter, also blackburn.senate.gov.
	We want to get government out of the way.
	That's what you fight for every single day.
	Talk to us about how big government is getting us ever, ever closer to the threat of not just inflation, but hyperinflation under Biden.
	Well, and that is what you're seeing, and it started on day one with Joe Biden.
	President Donald Trump, and God bless him, he worked hard and put us in a position where we were energy independent.
	And so Biden comes out, he nixes the Keystone Pipeline.
	You have thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs, that go away.
	Plus, at that point, the cost of fuel had to go up to accommodate what people knew was going to be coming, which is higher transportation fuel costs.
	We have seen the price of gas really escalate.
	You know, you had gas that was down around $1.60, $1.75 a gallon, and now you're up over $3 a gallon.
	And this has happened in just six short months.
	You have the cost of energy going up.
	You also, the cost of food is going up when you go to the grocery store.
	It costs more to get that food to the grocery store.
	All of the polymers, the plastics that that food is encased in, when you're buying fresh fruits and veggies and a carton of yogurt and milk, it is in plastics and polymers.
	That cost is going up.
	The cost of a bag of chips is up because of logistics costs.
	Also, the cost of the film that makes the bag, that the chips are put into, the cost of the palm oil that they're fried in, all of that cost is escalating.
	So, of course, costs are going up.
	Quality is something people are worried about because they can't get workers!
	Because you have many states continuing with this plussed up unemployment.
	So, you have less workers, you have inflation costs that are rising, and that means that at the end of the month, the worker is going to have less money that they're taking home in their paycheck.
	I've got somebody in Tennessee and they like to say, you know, that during Obama-Biden, they had too much money left at the end of their money.
	During Trump, they had money left at the end of the month.
	And it looks like Biden is going to end up giving them too much month left at the end of their money.
	That's a very good way of putting it.
	Senator Blackburn, we opened the show with you because allegedly you were going to get on a flight back to Tennessee, but now you can't because you said in the break that you don't have any Senate leadership who knows what they're doing.
	Can you tell us, is there any, with this infrastructure bill, every single day there's a different report.
	One trillion, two trillion, three trillion, four trillion.
	Is this going to be killed?
	Are they going to push it through the Senate?
	What is the latest information you have?
	Well, the latest information is the House is leaving D.C.
	today for six weeks.
	They're not even going to be here.
	But this poorly managed Senate that we're in, Schumer is trying to push forward this infrastructure bill, this bipartisan bill.
	The problem is, nobody knows what's in the bill.
	Now, yesterday, they took a vote on the motion to proceed, and it passed.
	And so now we are waiting to move forward.
	We had a vote on the point of order today.
	And the bill is the transportation infrastructure bill.
	We are going to be here this weekend.
	Because we still do not have the bill.
	So bear in mind, you have people that took a vote yesterday to proceed to the bill, but we do not have the bill.
	Incredible.
	The bill has not been written.
	No one's been able to read the bill because the bill in legislative text has not yet been given to us.
	Unbelievable.
	In the last minute, we have with Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee.
	It's got to be a return to COVID, the question of how we deal with this.
	The fact that 20% of the illegals crossing the southern border are testing positive, but that are being flown across the nation.
	How worried are you that whatever they do with masks and vaccines, we will not control this disease as long as the Biden administration has an open southern border?
	Well, you're right about that.
	You've seen spikes in these communities along the southern border.
	You have seen an increase in COVID on our border patrol and our law enforcement that is working the southern border.
	And now they are flying these illegal immigrants all across the country, and they are not tested for COVID.
	So you're having these positive cases.
	Land in communities.
	They're showing up at hospitals.
	This is a terrible situation.
	The border is a humanitarian crisis, a national security crisis, and it is a health care crisis.
	And a health care crisis, exactly.
	God bless you, Senator Marsha Blackburn.
	Follow her, blackburn.senate.gov, on Twitter at Marsha Blackburn.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First.
	Thank you.
	I'm here.
	He's here.
	Mics are live, by the way.
	Mr. Boyle.
	Mr. Boyle.
	Dr. Gorka, how are you, sir?
	We've got to talk President Swalwell, okay?
	You're exclusive.
	Oh gosh, yeah.
	There's so much going on.
	It's been a busy week, huh?
	It's a nutty week.
	Nutty week.
	What else do you want to talk about?
	We should talk about the masks.
	I think this is Joe Biden's WMD moment.
	His wild mask disinformation moment.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	You've got to use that on air, alright?
	Hold it.
	Hold fire.
	60 seconds and we're live.
	Title for Blackburn or anything else?
	Blackburn... Something about the border?
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	The border is a public health crisis or something?
	No, no, no.
	Infecting America with illegal aliens.
	Nice.
	And then, um, Jarret.
	What was Jarret?
	Um... You already gave me Jarret.
	I did?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Hanson or Schlichter.
	Uh... Schlichter?
	You don't have a title for Schlichter?
	Not yet, no.
	Um... For Hanson... What did he call it?
	Resurgence?
	With a resur... Um... What did he call the resurgence?
	I think that's... Winning the Second Civil War.
	Got it.
	And then Schlichter... Well, we'll talk about that.
	10 seconds.
	Stand by.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Just crank it up, play it loud.
	I don't know why, but Mr. G was shocked that I liked ZZ Top.
	Is my beard not long enough?
	I like them.
	They're kind of anti-establishment, but not in a rabid way.
	They're just kind of smooth.
	What is wrong with liking ZZ Top?
	And of course, we play our tribute and we tell him to rest in peace.
	ZZ Top bassist Dusty Hill has shuffled off this mortal coil.
	Too young, far too young at the age of 72.
	Apparently, according to reports, peacefully in his sleep, although he had returned Back to Texas last week with some issue with his hip, so we don't know if that is related to his death, but he will live on forever in the annals of music history.
	God bless the soul of Dusty Hill.
	I think we're going to play a little bit more ZZ Topper through the day today.
	This is America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	It's that time to check in with the most influential conservative website on the planet, in the known universe, and with their Washington political editor, Matt Boyle, the man who was so rude this morning, he crunched me down to 25 minutes on Breitbart radio because he had so much good stuff to share with Alex Marlow, the editor-in-chief.
	But anyway, we still love him.
	Matt, welcome back to America First.
	Dr. Gorka, always a pleasure.
	Thanks for having me.
	All right, so much to discuss.
	Let's start with the breaking news.
	Staff members, staff members in Congress and visitors who refuse to put a mask on, whether they're vaccinated or not, according to the chief as of a few moments ago, will be arrested.
	You had a very interesting description for this during the break.
	Tell our listeners across the nation what this could represent.
	Well, look, first and foremost, I think this is an unconditional surrender by President Joe Biden to the coronavirus.
	He has bowed down before the virus.
	And it's based off of misinformation.
	It's based off of, we now know, according to House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy, according to Congressman Dan Crenshaw, Congressman Pete Meyer, there are other members out there who have zoned in on this.
	The CDC is hiding their rationale for this.
	What rationale they have put forward is that it's based off a study out of India about the AstraZeneca vaccine, which isn't even in use in the United States because it has not even received emergency authorization in the United States.
	We aren't using the AstraZeneca vaccine.
	So the CDC so-called science behind this decision It's bunk, it's not science, and they're hiding all the rest of their information.
	So I'm calling it Joe Biden's WMD or Wild Mask Disinformation Scandal.
	This is Joe Biden's WMD moment.
	We will look back on this unconditional surrender.
	To the coronavirus, to the pandemic, to authoritarianism by President Biden as a turning point in his presidency.
	This is the moment his approval rating is beginning to sink.
	Earlier this week, we started seeing it hit the lowest of his presidency yet, and it's only going down from here.
	Joe Biden's unconditional surrender.
	And by the way, Nancy Pelosi has joined him in that unconditional surrender to the coronavirus and so on and so forth, all based off this information.
	So, again, it's wild mask disinformation, a WMD scandal here from the Biden administration and an unconditional surrender in this war that we started fighting under President Trump against the coronavirus.
	So this is where I need your help.
	And this is why you are a regular guest and a popular guest here on America First. - No, man.
	You are very astute politically and you understand both sides of the swamp.
	So here's my trouble with this recent decision, with the mandating vaccines for federal employees, with mandating masks for everybody, with arresting people on Capitol Hill if they don't wear a mask.
	Even an idiot realizes that this will create massive blowback for the reigning elite, for the powers that be, for the administration.
	So are they that stupid that they don't see it, or are they just so drunk on their power, Matt?
	And the answer to your question is both and.
	Part of the reason why they're doing this is Joe Biden's domestic agenda is dead in the water.
	As you just heard from Senator Blackburn, the House is heading out of town for six weeks.
	They're coming back on September 20th.
	They have zero legislative accomplishments this year.
	The only issue.
	Okay, the border is a massive crisis.
	You've got that inflation on the rise.
	You have crime wave across the country to the point where former Democrat Senator Barbara Boxer is literally mugged in California in the Bay Area recently.
	Among many, many, many other crimes that are being committed across the country.
	The experiment of complete Democrat control in Washington, D.C.
	has been a failure.
	Everybody can see it.
	The only issue on which President Biden has been polling positive in the black on has been his handling of the coronavirus.
	That's kept his net approval rating at or about 50% over the course of his presidency.
	He's been bobbing up and down right around there.
	48, 49, 50, 51, 52, right?
	Like, right in there.
	Once he did this move, he dropped down to 46 within 12 hours.
	And then it's going down from there.
	So I'm really watching that number closely.
	But the reason, see, this is the critical mass calculation they're making.
	The only reason why he's been polling positive on the handling of the coronavirus is while Biden's been president, people have received their freedoms back.
	They've had the mask mandates lifted in a lot of places.
	You had lockdowns in states that were locked down for over a year starting to open back up and so on and so forth.
	But places where I'm at, like down in Florida, we're in a free – we're in the free state of Florida.
	Governor DeSantis never locking down Florida.
	Let's be clear.
	We're not having mask mandates.
	None of that nonsense is happening here.
	But in places like California or Illinois or New York or D.C., I mean they're putting the masks back on in D.C. too.
	today.
	I've seen it everywhere.
	So what I'm getting at here is they made a critical miscalculation as to why Biden was polling positively on the coronavirus.
	So what they're doing is they're desperately trying to change the conversation back to the only issue he's been positive on.
	But they're doing it in a way that's going to cause him to go negative.
	And then his approval rating is sinking.
	And you're already seeing it happening in the numbers this week.
	And on top of that, what we've seen is these new deplorable type comments attacking those who aren't getting vaccinated.
	Matt, most of the people not getting vaccinated are from ethnic minorities that in many cases vote for the Democrats.
	So again, this is political suicide, is it not?
	Sure.
	And by the way, I saw somebody from like Vox.com or one of those other liberal outlets earlier today tweeting out that they should raise the nominal tax rate.
	To 99% for people who are unvaccinated without a religious or medical exemption.
	But that's systemic racism because the people, the majority of the people who are not vaccinated are black and Hispanic Americans out there.
	So again, and part of the reason why they're not is because people like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden were spreading doubts about the vaccine at the end of the Trump administration.
	What I'm getting at here is, are there Trump supporters out there who haven't got the vaccine?
	Absolutely.
	Don't get me wrong.
	It's not just black and Hispanic voters, but a lot of these measures are systemic racism by these Democrats because they are the vast majority of people not vaccinated.
	Well, of course.
	It's Vox.
	Vox is trash.
	Is it as bad as the Daily Beast or Huffington Post?
	It doesn't matter.
	None of them are journalists.
	We are talking to a real journalist from an actual news site.
	He is the Washington political editor for Breitbart.com.
	Bookmark them right now.
	Check them every morning, every evening.
	Back with Matt Boyle after these messages.
	wherever you are, whatever you're doing, don't touch that dial.
	I'll do JCN.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	We were talking about that.
	I was trying to break down what is happening with infrastructure, which is extremely complicated.
	And it took us a good 25 minutes to really explain to people.
	All right, give me the 22nd summary.
	The establishment Republicans are a bunch of morons.
	In the Senate, and at the same time, this whole two-bill track strategy has a long way to go and it might not succeed.
	So the whole thing could die?
	It could!
	There's a lot of landmines along the way and a lot of things that have to go perfect for the swamp, but the swamp really wants this.
	And when the swamp really wants something, especially when they have the control, they tend to get it.
	So I wouldn't bet against either side.
	I'd put it at a coin toss right now.
	But that's the thing is that if people don't want this, they need to fight and fight hard right now.
	And by the way, for it to happen, they need both bills to pass.
	You're right.
	Right.
	So, that's the point.
	What's the situation with the select committee?
	They have this one hearing yesterday.
	Is that it?
	I don't know.
	It's a joke.
	Nobody's paying attention to it.
	But she's not going to let it go at one hearing, is she?
	Nah, she can't let it go.
	They'll keep going a little bit.
	I heard some things that they might try to subpoena people.
	There's been rumors out there.
	They've been floating whether or not they'd subpoena Steve Bannon or whether or not they'd subpoena Trump.
	Because Steve apparently said something on his radio show the day before January 6th.
	Oh yeah?
	So, I guess he was involved in the coup.
	Like, oh my gosh.
	Right?
	So, I don't know.
	The whole thing is nuts.
	What cretins.
	By the way, Pelosi totally destroyed the committee with getting rid of Banks and Jordan.
	She would have been better served to have Banks and Jordan there fighting back because it would have given credibility to the committee.
	Right.
	And now the committee doesn't have any credibility.
	So it's a purely partisan hit job.
	This idea that she's the arch strategist, that died a long time ago for me.
	Yeah, she's really not...
	She's really not.
	You gonna be back in the swamp in the next six weeks?
	Probably not.
	Not if I have to put a mask on to go there.
	That was a big part of the reason why I left, man.
	I couldn't stand it anymore.
	So my apartment building was giving me crap about it.
	They were telling me I had to wear one to walk down the hall in my apartment building.
	I was like, hell no.
	So then I left.
	I was like, you know what?
	I'm not gonna pay you guys thousands of dollars a month.
	Screw you.
	Bye.
	The free market.
	Yeah, exactly.
	All right, 60 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Do you have a booker for Cam, Camac, Cat Camac? - Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Can you reach out and ask her if they want to come in 2D?
	Because she sent me some good tweets.
	yeah yeah
	yeah yeah yeah yeah Thank you.
	I know Sebastian well.
	Listen to him.
	He's with us.
	Thank you, Mr. President.
	More than a year of lockdowns, mask mandates, now new mask mandates.
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	Taking your calls next on 833-33-GORKA, that's 833-334-6752.
	But first, gotta talk to Matt Boyle with regards to an exclusive you wrote on President Eric Swalwell.
	What is the latest development, Matt?
	Well, President Swalwell, or Congressman Swalwell.
	President Swalwell.
	I think I can make a pretty bold prediction here, Dr. Gorka.
	Eric Swalwell will never be president of these United States.
	It will never happen.
	Not in my lifetime, not in yours.
	But will he ever pass gas again on live television?
	That's possible.
	Well, very possible, especially depending on what may have been happening in the bedroom with Fang Fang, the Chinese spy.
	Frankly, they may have been interrelated.
	I'm just saying.
	Matt, we don't know.
	Matt, I want to do it right now.
	I want to put you on the spot.
	We didn't rehearse this.
	Have you, Matt Boyle, ever had sex with a Chinese intelligence officer?
	No.
	Neither have I!
	We have both denied it in front of millions of people listening and watching.
	Why can't Eric Swalwell deny having sex with a Chinese spy?
	Because he did and it's contained in an intelligence report.
	So what we have confirmed earlier this week is that there is a report that the US intelligence community has that was conducted as an investigation that confirms a sexual relationship between Eric Swalwell and Fang Fang, a Chinese spy.
	Now, we've asked the congressman repeatedly to comment on this.
	He refuses to answer the question.
	He refuses to answer details about it.
	Now, the reason why this is important, however, is there's a classified report that is classified only for the reason of protecting Eric Swalwell and the reputation in protecting from embarrassment Eric Swalwell, but also Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff.
	Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff made the determination, because they have this intelligence, they have access to it, they've read the report, they've let Eric Swalwell stay on the committee, the intelligence committee that oversees the intelligence agencies, despite knowing what they know about him that's contained in this report.
	Now, President Biden, Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines, or anyone else in the federal government with what's called Original Classification Authority, could order the immediate declassification of this report and release it to the American public so that everyone out there, your listeners, ours, our readers, Eric Swalwell's constituents, Uh, hey, the Chinese Communist Party, they could all read it so that the world can see what Eric Swalwell really is.
	The only reason why they're not doing it is to protect him from embarrassment.
	I've talked to people who have read the report, are aware of its contents.
	We've had a big story about it earlier.
	This week.
	And again, there's no reason like normally they'll tell you that they can't declassify something because they don't want to compromise sources or methods, right?
	Like this would not compromise sources or methods.
	There's no reason other than to protect Congressman Swalwell, Speaker Pelosi and Chairmanship from political embarrassment.
	Hang on, hang on, hang on a second.
	So for five years we heard about Russian collusion allegations.
	President Trump is an asset of Putin.
	None of it was proven correct.
	It was all a lie.
	But a Democrat congressman had sex with a communist Chinese spy.
	Again, we don't know if there are other members of Congress, by the way, that have had sex with Chinese spies.
	I would imagine that – I would certainly hope that there are not.
	But in the case of Eric Suave, we know that it's true and we know that he's on the Intelligence Committee and we know that Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff are aware of the contents of this report and that they've kept him there.
	I would certainly hope that this is not the case with other members.
	But here's the thing.
	The influence operations of the Chinese Communist Party are so vast and they make what the Soviet Union did pale in comparison.
	This is the most serious effort to undermine the United States ever.
	They're everywhere.
	They're with every major politician.
	They start young.
	They started when Eric Swalwell was a city councilor.
	This is the definition of a honeypot entrapment and this is now the definition of cover-up.
	You read the article as soon as we're off the air in the break.
	I'm going to be posting myself on my Twitter and Facebook pages.
	And just for the heck of it, Jeff, reach out to Swalwell's office and invite him on.
	I want to ask him the question I asked Matt, which Matt was very ably able to deny, because it's true.
	In the case of Eric Swalwell, he can't deny it.
	Thank you, Matt.
	Keep doing what you do.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Your call is next on 833-33-Gawker.
	That's 833-334-6752.
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	Hey.
	Oh, dear.
	Oh, dear.
	Somebody just sent me his cell phone number.
	Do you want to call up Swalwell's cell phone?
	Yeah.
	That'd be great.
	Title for that.
	It's like a swallow.
	Nancy knows, and she's covering it up.
	Should I call him live on air?
	That's illegal.
	Why?
	Somebody has to consent to being on the radio.
	To be on the radio.
	Give me an I'll call him.
	Jeff will fall on the sword.
	That applies to streaming as well.
	FCC regulation in certain capacity does.
	So you have to consent to being on air.
	That's a shame.
	These podcast reads.
	When it says 60 seconds, it doesn't have to be 60 seconds, right?
	I was unaware that there was podcast reads, Eric.
	Are there podcast reads?
	Yeah, it's just one.
	Yeah, this thing I got yesterday.
	Yeah, it doesn't have to be 60 seconds.
	Oh, we gotta record a new one for that.
	A new what one?
	Tagging.
	Stop using the Battle for 1600.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I stopped using that.
	No, this is an ad.
	This is an actual ad.
	When did you stop using that?
	It was on two days ago.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, this is an ad.
	Yeah, it doesn't have to be 60 seconds.
	Okay, good.
	We'll record that at the top of the hour.
	Got it, okay.
	And title for Schlichter as well.
	What's the most interesting thing?
	Bulk military?
	A lot of the interviews seem to be, at least from what I've heard, seem to like it's centered around How he went from being a military guy to a media guy.
	From the Rodney King riots to a best-selling book.
	From the Rodney King writes to...
	To patriotic provocateur...
	Patriotic provocateur, like it.
	America First, what's your name?
	You said you wanted me to post a slightly edited version of Elder to...
	Dr. G is in the house on America First.
	Dr.
	G.
	How can you not love ZZ Top?
	Come on, guys.
	Good stuff.
	Rest in peace, Dusty Hill.
	Your call's next here on America First.
	But first, we want to reveal to you breaking news.
	Did you know that Joe Biden was a truck driver?
	Cut eight.
	Play cut.
	Oh, no, sorry.
	Cut nine.
	Play cut.
	Anyway.
	I used to drive an AT wheeler, man.
	Oh, yeah?
	That's awesome.
	I got to.
	I used to drive an 18-wheeler.
	When was that?
	I miss that in his political... Was that before or after he was stealing speeches from Neil Kinnock, the Labour Party president?
	Or was that before or after he was lying about... What did he get?
	Did he get two degrees or three degrees?
	Was he the top of his class on a full scholarship and he walked out with... Was it before or after he lied about college as well?
	Let's continue.
	Let's go to cut eight.
	Back in 2009, during the so-called Great Recession, the president asked me to be in charge of managing that piece.
	Then President Trump, excuse me, Freudian slip.
	That was the last president.
	He caused, anyway, that was President Obama.
	Anyway, anyway, anyway, President Trump put me in charge.
	No, he didn't.
	And what does he mean?
	Freudian slip?
	What does... I mean, Freudian slip?
	You know what that means, Joe?
	It means an inadvertent admission of the truth.
	So, are you inadvertently admitting that President Trump was President in 2009?
	You've seen her.
	You've just clearly, clearly seen her.
	Okay, enough of that.
	Enough of the old man who has the title President of the United States.
	Your calls.
	Let's go to the brotherly city of brotherly love.
	Philadelphia, Line 1, Bob.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka, for taking my call.
	Sure.
	I'm calling about Marsha Blackburn.
	I saw her this morning on Stuart Varney, Fox Business.
	She had the opportunity.
	He asked her, why do you think Biden is going so easy on China?
	Well, China bought and paid for Biden through Hunter 1.5 billion.
	She had the opportunity to say that.
	Why don't they just say that?
	That's what's wrong with these Republicans.
	They're not telling the truth.
	Look, I actually said this, Geoff, didn't I say this to you earlier today, that she's very different from all the other senators?
	Yes, you did.
	Because she doesn't behave like a senator.
	That's the reason, Bob.
	The rest of the senators, with the rare exception, are arrogant, Individuals, each one of them with egos that, there's a phrase in Hungarian, they could easily commit suicide by jumping off their egos and landing on their IQs.
	That is the average senator.
	They all think they're going to be presidents and none of them are going to be, but Marsha is the rare exception.
	Thank you, Bob.
	We salute her and that's why she is a regular guest here on American First.
	Linda Colorado, line two.
	Let's go down the line.
	Hi.
	Hey!
	Anyway, I'm really upset because Americans, you know, that didn't get the vaccine, boy, being picked on, crucified and that, but what about all these people coming over carrying every disease, you know?
	And it's just like nothing's mentioned about them getting the vaccine and what they're bringing over and stuff, and I am really upset.
	You know what I mean?
	I do.
	That's why we're here.
	That's why we're upset as well, Linda.
	What do you mean nobody's saying it?
	Well, they didn't get their shots, you know, but we're the ones out here.
	Well, what do you mean nobody's saying it?
	I'm saying it.
	Well, I know it, and it's the first time I heard it on the radio.
	When I called in to talk about it, I was so glad to hear somebody's finally waking up and admitting that, you know?
	I don't hear anybody else talking about it.
	Linda, Linda, I wasn't asleep to begin with.
	I didn't just wake up, and clearly you're not listening to enough Salem radio.
	Because if you do, you're going to be hearing it.
	You're going to be hearing a lot of it.
	So tune in to Dennis Prager.
	Tune in to Larry Elder.
	Tune in to Eric Metaxas, Charlie Kirk.
	Check out our podcast, The National Seuss, The Trish Regan.
	I guarantee you, every single one of those, none of them who were asleep, Thank you, Sebastian.
	Gavin Newsom is giving hints that he's going to mandate vaccinations, make it a crime if you're not, and he's going to wait until September 14th to do it so that he doesn't jeopardize the recall.
	But we should assume this before we go into that Bootham vote, we should all vote to recall because What could be more Nazi-like and un-American than forcing you to take a shot of something that the government's mishandling of the virus started in the first place?
	No.
	Look, this is a massive yes.
	The reports are out there that he's intimating this.
	And everybody, yourself included, needs to send this message.
	If this is what he intends to do after the recall ballot, that is a reason to vote for Larry Elder.
	You've got to recall him.
	You've got to win.
	And you've got to start saving the Republic of California, the state of California.
	Thank you, Frank.
	Spread the word.
	Cindy, San Antonio, Line 4.
	Hello, Dr. Gorka.
	The only person who's more excited about me being able to talk to you is my second lieutenant son in the Marine Corps.
	Well, he's got to call in sometime as well.
	God bless him.
	Where's he stationed now?
	He's in North Carolina.
	Good for him.
	Send him our best.
	What brings you to our sunny shores today?
	Well, I wanted to ask you your thoughts on whether you think all this mask mandate and this vaccination mandating is a loyalty test.
	We already know it's to divide people.
	It's a very visible way to divide people.
	But do you think it's kind of a loyalty test?
	It's interesting.
	I don't think they've thought it through cogently as a loyalty test.
	It would be potentially one of the ramifications of a mandate and will be deemed by some as a loyalty test.
	But Cindy, you're wonderful.
	You've reminded me of what I wanted to talk about as I was prepping for the show earlier today at home.
	I'm going to talk about my My theory for why they're mandating masks.
	I'm going to talk about my theory of why they want to mandate vaccines for federal workers and others.
	I'm out of time to talk about it now but I'm going to talk about it here today on America First.
	God bless you and your son Samper Fidelis.
	More of your calls 833 33 Gorka That's 833-334-6752.
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	Uh, after the disclaimer, come in with video cut six.
	Cut six, yes.
	90 seconds.
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	All right, why did he say that?
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	Yes.
	Did Greg really say that?
	Cut three.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	All right.
	30 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Standing by.
	Gut fell.
	That's what you're talking about.
	Yeah, Geraldo said that the gut fell.
	Oh.
	Oh.
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	Because I know they're doing it in Europe, but you're not CDC director of Europe, which I'm sure you're plenty happy about.
	But they're issuing health passes there, right?
	Where, you know, you can go to a disco or a discotheque, as they like to call it there, if you have a health pass.
	Is that something that the CDC would ever lean into or perhaps advise here?
	you You know, I think some communities are doing that, and that may very well be a path forward.
	CDC director saying we need vaccine passports here.
	By the way, it's called a discotheque because I'm just so sophisticated, don't you know?
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	Doug, Washington State.
	Hey, how you doing, Dr. G?
	Good.
	First of all, I just want to tell you what a stand-up guy you are.
	Thank you.
	Can you hear me okay?
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I've had this theory for a long time now.
	I grew up in the 50s and 60s under the umbrella of all-out nuclear war with the former Soviet Union.
	And then all of a sudden you get up one morning and Poland drops, the Berlin Wall falls, and then USSR no longer.
	It seemed like it was way too easy.
	Are you kidding me?
	Are you kidding me?
	40 years, 40 years, 40 years, billions and trillions spent.
	You think that's too easy?
	40 years, billions and trillions spent.
	You think that's too easy?
	40 years?
	Well, the way it fell, it made me feel like at the time I'm watching this all on TV.
	No, I don't think it was too easy in that sense, absolutely not.
	But it just seemed like, is this, I guess my point is, sir, is this a bigger, was this a bigger plan?
	Because ideology obviously is a far more effective weapon.
	So you think the fall of the Soviet Union was a con, was a trick?
	Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
	I don't believe it 100%, but it just makes me stop and think.
	Doug, Doug, Doug, you really disappoint me.
	Truly.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Seriously.
	You think, you think, you think the fact that the Soviet Union lost all those nations from the Balt to the Stans, that was a, they wanted that?
	Well, I don't know.
	No, Doug, stop.
	Stop it.
	Yes, sir.
	Stop it.
	It's insanity.
	Come back from the cliff.
	I was there.
	I witnessed it.
	Stop it.
	Please.
	The communists may be winning in the West.
	But Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher and blessed St.
	John Paul II won the Cold War with millions of brave Hungarians, Poles, Czechs, Estonians, Latvians and even Russians.
	Don't disgrace the memory of all those who fought to liberate the captive nations.
	It was real and what we're witnessing now here in America is sadly real.
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	On January 6th, he did something for which he owes the American people, the world, and history an apology.
	And we need answers on all of it.
	Geraldo.
	But Dan Bongino.
	Geraldo's wrong on both fronts.
	Profoundly wrong.
	How the president, I have his transcript of what he said, we're going to go march to the Capitol peacefully and patriotically is inciting a riot, is quite confusing.
	I don't know if you need a thesaurus, a dictionary, I don't know where you get, why you're just Making that up.
	I mean I don't understand like the narrative goes back and forth between this was a planned insurrection to then Trump incited an insurrection despite the fact that Trump said go march peacefully and patriotically.
	Again, I don't know why you're making that up.
	I was a friend of President Trump.
	Well, with friends like you, you know, who needs enemies?
	I mean, that's being a friend.
	And then secondly, this comment you made about, you know, listen, this is about January 6th.
	Listen, I have been, like Sean and everyone else, let me say again, for the record, any violence against law enforcement, I absolutely, in unequivocal terms, condemn.
	Everybody got that?
	Crystal clear.
	I was a cop.
	No excuses.
	But you know what I find odd, Geraldo?
	Democrats don't seem remotely interested in the insurrection that happened in the White House during the BLM riots.
	So my Secret Service friends were texting me saying, you have no idea how bad it's getting here.
	I- Yep, stand by.
	We coming in with something?
	No?
	You're listening to America
	First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump.
	Thank you.
	It's almost August.
	Is it August yet?
	Almost August.
	Two weeks ago, America First, Sebastian Gorka, sorry.
	Salem Radio.
	July 16th.
	Saw the slaying of a six-year-old girl in DC.
	A beautiful black girl.
	Her name was, is, Naya Courtney.
	Back then, I did a monologue, I think, about it.
	I don't know.
	I got rather heated.
	Because somebody afterwards said in federal government, the Attorney General said, oh, we're going to fix all of this because we're going to have new federal task forces on gun trafficking.
	There's nothing to do with gun trafficking.
	Criminals will always find guns, you cretin.
	Here's the really sad update, but it's a really important update.
	It's good news on one hand.
	On the other hand, it's the kind of news that makes a part of your soul die.
	Just become necrotic.
	Literally die when you hear it.
	Young man.
	Black.
	Called Mark Twain.
	What is it with these names, right?
	I mean, what are you trying to do to that child when you name it something like that?
	Is it a stamp for life?
	Mark Twain Hargraves, 22, has been charged with murder, with murdering six-year-old Naya Courtney.
	Good.
	Chief of Police Conti said, we got our man!
	Metropolitan Police Chief.
	We ain't got our man.
	Great.
	But here's the rest of the story you need to know.
	And it's about America.
	It's not just about this beautiful child who's now in heaven with our creator.
	It's about violence across America.
	There were numerous arrests in addition to this man.
	I think six, seven other people were arrested in addition to Mark Twain Hargraves.
	During the arrests, actually here it is, sorry, 16 individuals are now in custody facing charges of narcotics conspiracy in federal U.S.
	court.
	The task force that finally apprehended them recovered over a dozen firearms, cocaine and heroin and other drugs.
	So this was part of a drug operation.
	Now here's where I feel kind of stupid for a moment, and then I feel truly saddened.
	When I hear of any child dying, I add them to my list of morning prayers, and I say to the good Lord, bless that child's soul, Naya Courtney's, Accept her directly into heaven because her soul is pure.
	She's a child.
	And give strength and faith and as much peace as is eventually possible.
	This is sort of the verbiage I use in my head.
	I've got it down after a few years, sadly.
	Bless, give strength and eventual peace as much as is possible to her family and friends.
	The kind of thing I think you should do, really, right?
	Because that child isn't guilty of anything and it will go to heaven because it is innocent.
	And the hardest thing to deal with for any parent is to lose a child.
	But this story, for those who are following it, but because the mainstream media doesn't give a damn, they won't talk about this.
	Not those frauds, those charlatans from Anderson Cooper to that moron Fredo Cuomo to that That similar cretin Don Lemon to that clown, that eunuch of CNN Brian Stelter.
	Not the Washington Post.
	Not the New York Times.
	Not the Huffington Post.
	None of them.
	None of them.
	We'll talk about the real story here.
	Yes, she died.
	But one of the people arrested out of the 16 Because he was trafficking drugs and involved in all of this.
	It's her father.
	How stupid am I, right?
	Asking our God to give strength to Nya Courtney's family and faith in as much peace as is eventually possible.
	That's what's wrong with America.
	Not with his skin color.
	Not with her skin color.
	but when her father was part of why she died what am I doing praying for him what an idiot I am right that's what's wrong with America not with his skin color not with her skin color but the fact that this is normal
	This is normal.
	In Washington D.C.
	and in Baltimore and Chicago with what, I can't keep up with it.
	I can't, I don't know if it's 81 or 82 people shot this weekend.
	At last I looked it was 11 dead, could be 12 dead by now.
	Whether it's Baltimore, wherever it is.
	This isn't fate that she died.
	She didn't have to die.
	She died because of decisions taken by men, and in some cases women, but mostly men.
	Political decisions.
	By mayors, by democrat presidents, governors, senators, representatives, who thought the black population are tools to be exploited.
	Or, as the well-meaning thought, well, let's have a great society.
	Let's help those single mothers.
	Let's incentivize them not to get married.
	Let's give them more money if they're single mothers popping out babies without the fathers being around.
	Let's give them more money!
	Let's, when violence gets really bad, as it has in the last 18 months in America, let's make it so you don't have to pay bail.
	Let's make it in San Francisco and Los Angeles that if you steal anything beneath a thousand dollars in value, you're not going to get charged.
	Let's make it so we defund the police.
	Let's make it that the individual who's arrested, Mark Twain Hargreaves, Hargreaves, who's got multiple, multiple felonies on his record already, carjacking, theft, robbery, you name it, at 22 years old, he's not in prison for the rest of his life.
	He's out because oh well he's black or something or criminals shouldn't be punished or something.
	Because America reasons white supremacy.
	That's why she died.
	Not because some idiot was trying to kill her dad and missed.
	Her dad, who's a drug dealer.
	The destruction that's been wrought on this country.
	Oh.
	On black America.
	On families.
	The essence of our civilization.
	It's not an act of God.
	It's not a hurricane.
	It's not a lightning strike.
	It's the act of men.
	And it's the act of Democrat politicians.
	The blood of this angel.
	This beautiful girl.
	If you haven't seen her picture, search it online now.
	She is an angel.
	Her death is on the hands Of the cynical, feckless, black-hearted Democrats who've turned their cotton plantations into a political plantation.
	Candace Owens is so right on that.
	Where are the black leaders?
	Al Sharpton is a race hustler.
	Farrakhan is a racist.
	Where's Black America?
	Stand up.
	Save your families.
	Save our nation because you are Americans too.
	It's too late for Naya.
	But maybe you can save the next six-year-old beautiful little angel from being killed because her daddy was a drug dealer.
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	He is the legal and political analyst extraordinaire for Fox News, Greg Jarrett.
	Welcome back to America First.
	Sebastian, great to be with you.
	Always fun talking to you.
	So you've got a piece, rather provocatively titled piece on your website.
	We're posting it now on Twitter and Facebook called Pelosi's January 6th Committee is a charade that smacks of a cover-up.
	Let me start thusly.
	Somebody said this to me on my show and I thought it was a wonderful way of thinking about it.
	In this city of rank and privilege and ego, There is a mayor outside of the power of the mayor of DC's office, who may not be called mayor, but really Nancy Pelosi is the mayor of the Capitol.
	As such, shouldn't she be investigated with concerns to January 6th?
	Oh, absolutely.
	What was her role?
	She was in charge of security.
	Look, she, and you're right about what she does, she rules Washington DC like a tyrant.
	She abides no dissent, tolerates anybody who has a differing opinion, and most importantly, she's contemptuous of the truth.
	Only her truth, her narrative, will be allowed.
	And if you present contrary evidence, and there's plenty of it, that's going to be suppressed by her and covered up, and thus the title of my column.
	Pelosi has no interest in the full story of what happened on January 6th.
	All you have to do is read the scathing Inspector General report of the Capitol Police, and he cited an absolute lack of leadership, intelligence breakdown, dysfunction within the Capitol security system.
	Well, guess who's in charge of Capitol security?
	Pelosi plays a vital role in overseeing the Capitol Police, and she is partially responsible for maintaining adequate security.
	So the question is, you know, where was Pelosi in all of this, in the events leading up to January 6th?
	Was she aware of all of these alarming threat assessments by the FBI, Homeland Security, and the Capitol Police itself that said this was going to surely evolve into violence?
	Congress is the target.
	That's a quote.
	Did she ignore the threat analysis?
	Did she actively discourage a larger protection force?
	I mean, who were the people?
	Was it Nancy Pelosi that was behind the order not to call in in advance the Metropolitan Police or the National Guard?
	She has a lot to answer for.
	And so the reason she has stacked this committee and refused to have anybody, any Republican on, Who will ask the questions I just posed is because she is trying to deflect responsibility for her own suspected malfeasance.
	The books are The Russia Hoax and Witch Hunt.
	You can follow him on Twitter, Greg Jarrett, 2Gs, 2Rs, 2Ts.
	You can read the article on our Twitter and Facebook pages right now.
	Greg, have I don't know if you listen to my show, but when people ring in with conspiracy theories, I get very irate and usually I get very destructive.
	I like them as entertainment, but there's a reason they're called theories and not conspiracy facts.
	With regards to January the 6th, however, we actually have facts.
	We have footage of some very peculiar things happening.
	No, they won't.
	Barriers being removed by uniformed officers.
	We have footage of police officers inviting people inside and opening the doors.
	I don't know why that happened.
	Do you have any expectation, any faith that Nancy and Kinzinger and Cheney are going to get us answers to those questions?
	No, they won't.
	They won't do it because, I mean, Adam Kinzinger and, you know, Cheney are both, you know, Pelosi puppets.
	They're Republicans in name only because they were selected for the committee simply because they have an R after their name, Republican.
	again.
	And they hate Donald Trump.
	Look at every single member of that committee.
	They are inveterate Trump haters.
	Most of them were involved in the second misbegotten impeachment in which Trump was acquitted, in which You know, his role was already well litigated, and, you know, on Tuesday, if you were watching the hearing, you know, many of the same photographs and videotapes were played over and over again.
	Yes, there were some new ones, but, you know, it was mostly a rehash of the whole thing.
	Look, Nancy Pelosi knows the Democrats have nothing to run on.
	Chaos at the border, staggering runaway inflation, Crime that's skyrocketing.
	All of this because of Democratic policies and Joe Biden's progressive agenda.
	So Nancy Pelosi, realizing that she's about to lose control of the House in the midterm elections next year, wants to put the great villain Donald Trump front and center.
	That's the only thing she has to run on, is to rehash old Donald Trump stories.
	The January 6th, quote-unquote, insurrection, which Democrats keep saying is worse than 9-11, and it's obviously and clearly not, and that's a lie.
	You know, that's all we've got to run on, is let's demonize some more Donald Trump.
	Yeah, it's a very good way of explaining why she's doing what she's doing.
	Greg, let's look at the aftermath of January 6th outside of the Select Committee.
	For months and months on end, dozens of people in solitary on charges that have nothing to do with insurrection.
	But our trespass, or the first conviction for interrupting an official proceedings, it smacks to me, and you are the person with judicial experience for decades, that this is an attempt to criminalize being a conservative.
	Yeah, I think some of it is that.
	Look, there's no question about what happened on January 6th was tragic.
	I mean, there was violence there, and we've certainly seen that violence.
	On videotape and in photographs and through, you know, the very emotional testimony of victims of violence.
	And there's no excusing that.
	It was horrendous.
	But to say that, you know, to blame Donald Trump for it in its entirety, a man who gave a speech, you know, minutes before that said, get out of the Capitol and protest peacefully and patriotically, to say that he Incited an insurrectionist ludicrous, he hasn't been charged with incitement.
	He hasn't been charged with any crime related to that.
	Because the facts don't support it, the evidence isn't there.
	But that doesn't mean that, you know, Nancy Pelosi and Democrats at large won't try to re-litigate the second impeachment all over again for political gain.
	And, you know, that's what they're doing.
	Isn't it enough that the people who committed crimes, and they did, On January 6th, they're being prosecuted.
	Isn't it enough that Trump was impeached and acquitted?
	Clearly not for her.
	That's why we are witnessing impeachment 3.0.
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	Um, Chad?
	Come in with this just for a few seconds.
	Okay.
	And then I'm going to go to you, Geoff, with the point you made.
	Yeah.
	That nobody's not going to convince anybody.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Raisins are yummy.
	I hope he's still talking, though.
	I mean, the speeches are late.
	Yeah, I keep thinking that by the time we come back on the air, he's already going to be done.
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	Do not comply.
	You have two hours to comply.
	Drop the weapon.
	I read about that in Time Magazine.
	About what?
	Oh, I was referencing Die Hard.
	You have two hours to comply.
	Five members of the Asian Dawn.
	What?
	What is that?
	So good.
	I need to re-watch that movie at some point.
	Thirty seconds!
	Where's my water?
	My little bottle.
	Coming in with this guy.
	Coming in with this guy.
	The vaccine have been administered in the United States and billions of doses administered around the world. .
	The vaccine was developed and authorized under a Republican administration.
	And it's been distributed and administered under a Democratic administration.
	The vaccines are safe, highly effective.
	There's nothing political about them.
	They're safe and highly effective.
	That is the man who bears the title of President of the United States speaking right now from the White House, trying to convince everybody to get vaccinated.
	If they're effective, why do we have their masks back in federal buildings?
	I'm just curious.
	Why?
	Why?
	More importantly, why is he giving this speech?
	Mr. G, you made a very trenchant comment as we were watching this in the break.
	Share it with our millions of listeners, please.
	It's simple.
	It's almost August now.
	Anybody could get this basically since April now.
	It's been four months.
	Everybody's mind is made up.
	You're either going to get it or you aren't.
	This is not going to convince anybody to get the vaccine.
	Right, so what's the point of doing it?
	Well, you don't watch the news like I do the last two weeks.
	No, the viciousness it has been.
	Everything that they're saying about the vaccines, and that's all they've been talking about, it's not going to convince anyone.
	You're an idiot.
	You're a moron.
	You're a Neanderthal.
	You should lose your job.
	It's becoming a political point.
	Last year they blamed Trump.
	Now they're going to blame the Trump supporters why it's still here.
	That's a beautiful segue, which we did not rehearse.
	And here's an example of it from Fox News.
	This is Geraldo, today's cut sheet, cut to, play cut.
	I think less of people who are not vaccinated.
	I think that it is an arrogant, selfish, reckless act.
	And I have five grandchildren, all under the age of 12, who are susceptible to someone sneezing on them.
	I think it is absolutely so selfish.
	That it is appalling.
	Sometimes government has to tell, not ask.
	The government has to tell right now, I want people to have to show.
	When I go to the bar, I want to know everybody's vaccinated.
	Or, you know, or have the test.
	Here's my positive or my negative test.
	Here it is.
	See, this is, I mean, the guy's not very intelligent.
	He's got how many grandchildren?
	It doesn't matter.
	Does he know the facts about coronavirus in children?
	Does he have any idea?
	Has he actually listened to his own channel, Fox News, that has Mark Macquarie from Georgetown?
	Or, no, is it John Hopkins?
	John Hopkins.
	who has said on air, the mortality rate for children in America is 0.05.
	0.05.
	So people can sneeze on your kids, Geraldo.
	It's okay.
	And as we say in other parts of the country, my body, my choice.
	Mr. G's correct.
	This speech isn't going to convince anybody and it's about personal freedom and saying that we are not going to wrap ourselves in cotton wool.
	We'll get back to your calls momentarily.
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	Let's go to Rip in Orlando, line one.
	Welcome, Rip.
	Very happy to be here.
	It's very hard to hear.
	I don't know if you're mobile or if you can talk more directly into the phone.
	What's your question, Rip?
	How about now?
	Can you hear me better?
	A little bit better, yeah.
	OK, yeah, I'm mobile right now.
	Anyway, so I get up every morning.
	Thank God for the day ahead.
	You're not going to watch the news and see all these illegal immigrants come across the border, pregnant, giving thumbs up, smile.
	And so what can we do about it?
	The administration is completely Ignoring the fact that they are inspecting legal citizens.
	Even though I live in Florida, my mother lives in California right by the border.
	Yeah.
	What do we do as individuals?
	It's a great, great question.
	Here's a message.
	Rip's question is a great question.
	Here's a message to everyone out there.
	We are having illegal aliens with the coronavirus shipped across America on taxpayer dime.
	Find out if it's happening in your state.
	If it is, if you're not organizing protests outside the local government building, Well, then you're fine with it.
	Don't be.
	Get organized.
	If the federal government is doing this to us, make sure the local governments aren't facilitating them and aren't accepting these illegal aliens in your community.
	Find out Do some research.
	Get organized.
	That is how we will stop them because we must stop them for the safety of this nation and for the safety of those poor wretches who are being smuggled into this country.
	Great question.
	God bless.
	Keep safe, Rip.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Who's Thomas Massey? - See?
	Kentucky, right, Shad?
	He's kind of like a Rand Paul kind of guy.
	He's kind of a libertarian kind of guy, yeah.
	Oh, can I hear that cut four?
	Cut four.
	Um, yeah, one second.
	There we go.
	But now that she's re-initiated the mask mandate, will you now back down and wear one?
	Hell no, I'm not backing down.
	In fact, I'm not where I'm going.
	If she wants to fine me again, and we may have more co-litigants in this case, more plaintiffs, I've got people asking if they can join the lawsuit now.
	Alright, so then she'd probably call you a moron.
	I mean, that's kind of what she said yesterday.
	You know what?
	A year ago, she called me a dangerous nuisance on national television, so I took it as a compliment.
	If she'd just called me a nuisance, I'd have been offended.
	But she knows we're effective, and she reinstituted this mask mandate the day after we filed the case in federal court.
	We'll take it all the way to the Supreme Court if we have to.
	She's a tyrant and a hypocrite.
	Wow.
	Okay, cut ten.
	It is slowly trickling in, up 6.5%!
	Up 6.5%!
	This is a huge disappointment!
	We're looking for a number that'd be closer to 8.5%!
	And... Audio, cut 11.
	And all this activity we see going on in elementary schools, all about critical race theory.
	Theory is the operative word.
	We do not teach theory.
	in elementary school.
	Critical race theory is something at the university level.
	I think that's what community ought to do.
	Come on and come clean with the American people and let them know this is a red herring.
	Okay.
	I'll turn the mics off.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	America First Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America first.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
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	She's on the steps of Congress allegedly trying to, uh, Rangle some rowdy rowdy colleagues, but she has been a warrior on social media this morning So I had to reach out for her Florida's third district Congresswoman Kat Cammack.
	Welcome back to America first Well, thank you Sebastian.
	I appreciate it and very very glad to be joining you We are out on the steps of the Capitol we have been making sure that the American people know that they have backup and And that we will not stand for this kind of tyranny, this kind of continual abuse of power.
	And it's just been a bit of a wild ride when they have graduated to arresting staff and visitors and reporting members of Congress for not following an unscientific, non-peer-reviewed mandate that is not rooted in science but more political-motivated hack job by Nancy Pelosi.
	This is when we stand up and say, absolutely not.
	No more.
	We will not comply.
	So read her tweets on my Twitter feed.
	You can follow her rep cat camac.
	That's K-A-T-C-A-M-M-A-C-K rep cat camac.
	So this this new mandate of masks for everyone is based upon a non peer reviewed study out of India.
	You wrote the following, Congresswoman, I will not comply, Nancy, certainly not with a mandate that is based on an unpublished, failed peer-reviewed study conducted in India.
	This is not your house, this is the people's house.
	So where does this leave you?
	The Chief has been clear, Staff visitors will be arrested.
	Is there going to be mass disobedience from the true freedom fighters left in the caucus?
	You know, I think, you know, a lot of people, if you look at all of my colleagues that really stood in solidarity after one of the Capitol Police officers provided me with that piece of information, that memo that they had been given and issued during roll call in this morning's shift change, My colleagues from all walks of the Republican Party came out in support of what I said on social media and stood by me.
	And I think that's really a credit to where we are at.
	The media would have you believe that we are completely fractured, that it is ultra-conservative versus moderate.
	No, this is about preserving our constitutional republic.
	And we agree far more than we disagree.
	And I think there are some that are definitely more outspoken than others.
	But that doesn't make it any less of a united effort in standing against the tyranny that is coming out of Nancy Pelosi's office.
	And you know, the hypocrisy just never seems to end with these people.
	I just walked out onto the steps of the Capitol, past Nancy Pelosi, and in her very pretty blue blazer, I couldn't find the matching mask that she claimed that we all need to be wearing.
	So the speaker who puts out this ridiculous guidance, this mandate, saying that we're going to arrest people, She doesn't even follow her own guidance.
	And that, I think, is what is uniting us.
	It's the hypocrisy.
	The rules for thee, but not for me.
	And, you know, we talk about this CDC mandate that came out earlier in the week.
	This was based off of a study that is unpublished, not available for the public.
	It hasn't been accepted by a peer-reviewed process.
	And what's crazy is the study was conducted on a group of Indians in India.
	using a vaccine that is not approved for use in the United States.
	So they are comparing apples to oranges here, and it was rejected.
	They said that this is the reasoning for the mandate.
	But it makes me wonder, how many other mandates and recommendations have the CDC given based on unpublished and failed peer review science?
	Or I'm saying, you know, science with air quotes around it.
	Yes.
	That makes you question.
	Yeah, that's an incredibly good question.
	So it's not just masks in the people's house.
	It's not just Nancy right now.
	He's still talking.
	They must have given him an adrenaline shot or something.
	The man who bears the title President Joe Biden is talking at the podium in the White House saying everybody must get vaccinated.
	Where is the limit to the actions of the federal government?
	And when is the choice of individuals?
	They love to say when it comes to abortion, my body, my choice.
	Given we don't control the House or the Senate, what is the final approach the GOP can take to stop the federal government acting in this fashion?
	Well, I can tell you that they are under tremendous pressure from the coordinated effort of the GOP from today, really putting this out and highlighting the hypocrisy.
	I've talked to several Capitol Police officers today who have said, thank you for putting that out.
	We're very uncomfortable with this.
	We don't believe this is right.
	I've heard from Democratic staffers who, uh, they have said, listen, the leader, uh, the leadership of the Democratic party right now, they are pissed.
	They are so upset.
	They're trying to walk back their, their statement.
	They're trying to figure out how they can turn this around and turn it into a positive for them.
	But you simply can't because what they have said is exactly what you just said.
	This is not about science.
	This is not about, an individual's right to choose.
	This is not about health or public safety.
	This is about politics and power and control.
	That is exactly what this is.
	The data does not support this mandate.
	The data does not support the trend line that we have of starting to see more lockdowns around the country.
	But what they're seeing is a loss of power and a loss of control over everyday American people.
	And they figure if we can enforce our will on the representatives of the people, we can do that in your hometown.
	So really, we're the only thing standing between massive lockdowns and mandatory mask mandates.
	And a free and open society where we know how to make the best decisions for ourselves and our families.
	And that scares them to death.
	The fact, the fact we know it's fake science because for some magical reason, there must be a force shield coming out of the Death Star.
	You have to wear masks in the House, but not in the Senate.
	Somehow COVID doesn't reach the Senate.
	Follow this lady.
	She represents Florida's third district rep.
	Cat Camac on Twitter.
	Thank you for joining us today and follow her.
	It's a rather good Twitter game.
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	So that's interesting.
	She's a pretty new Congresswoman and she's getting whistleblowers from Capitol Police because she posted the document this morning.
	I'm sure that Capitol Police right now are kind of having probably a bit of a civil war.
	I should squeeze it in here, shouldn't I?
	The Fauci montage.
	Yeah, it's great.
	Okay, good.
	Which cut is that?
	Fauci... Yesterday's... Yesterday cut three.
	We'll have just enough time.
	Do we have guests tomorrow?
	Promo?
	Only two.
	Don't worry about it, okay.
	Who do you want me to ask for the second event?
	Shepard's been a while, or... Lovell.
	Lovell we already cancelled on tomorrow for the podcast.
	Okay.
	He's rescheduled, but it's like two weeks out.
	Let me think about it.
	Title for Kamek?
	You want a title for Kamek?
	We will not comply.
	Got it.
	Alright.
	Okay.
	30 seconds.
	Can't stand by.
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	He's still talking, he's still bloviating at the platform.
	The man who bears the title president telling us to trust him, trust the science.
	Well, who's the chief scientist?
	The highest paid bureaucrat in federal service, Anthony Fauci.
	Let's listen to how, hmm, consistent he's been on the question of science.
	Wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better.
	Masks are protective.
	But it's not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is.
	There has not been any indication that putting a mask on and wearing a mask for a considerable period of time has any deleterious effects.
	There are unintended consequences.
	People keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.
	And can you get some schmutz sort of staying inside there?
	Of course.
	You do not need to wear a mask indoors if, in fact, you've been vaccinated.
	Good that you're vaccinated, but in a situation where you have people indoors, particularly crowded, you should wear a mask.
	So even if you are vaccinated, you should wear a mask.
	If, in fact, you are vaccinated, fully vaccinated, you are protected, and you do not need to wear a mask outdoors or indoors.
	When the children go out into the community, You want them to continue to wear masks?
	You know, if you look at children outside, particularly when they're with the family, walking down the street, playing a game or what have you, don't have to wear a mask.
	The pediatric, the Academy of Pediatric actually makes that recommendation that children should be wearing masks from two years old.
	Onward.
	And you're asking now, if your child is a member of your household, can you walk outdoors with your child without a mask?
	According to that chart, the answer is yes.
	But the child can't, not to beat it to death?
	Yes, yes.
	Because now the CDC says, I mean, I think I've got this right.
	One mask is better than zero masks.
	Two masks is better than one mask.
	But you don't have to have double masks.
	Is that right?
	It became clear that cloth coverings, that you didn't have to buy in a store, that you could make yourself, were adequate.
	And then you want it to fit better.
	So one of the ways you could do it, if you would like to, is put a cloth mask over, which actually, here and here and here, where you could get leakage in, is much better contained.
	Can we just play that every hour twice, please?
	Chad, would that be good radio?
	I think we need to let the people know.
	The people must be told!
	Thank you, Mr. G, for finding that.
	Masks.
	No, they just make you feel better, but they don't actually do something.
	Masks.
	Even if you've been vaccinated, you should wear one.
	Masks.
	One is not enough.
	Two is better.
	And put the one that's cloth on top of the one that's paper.
	Trust me, I earn $413,000 that you pay for every single year as an American taxpayer.
	Fauci is a fascistic little fraud.
	We don't believe any of it.
	Do not comply.
	It's your body.
	It's your health.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Stay with us for Crazy Colonel Schlichter.
	Crazy Colonel Schlichter
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	It's our new product here.
	We are content providers, and we like to shake things up now and again.
	It's called America First One-on-One, where you get to know one of our friends, our buddies, our patriots, just that little bit better.
	And it's perfect timing.
	Why?
	Because the man I call Colonel K has got a brand new book out.
	He is... You know, some people have verbal diarrhea.
	This guy is unstoppable when it comes to writing books.
	Fiction and non-fiction.
	The latest in his Kelly Turnbull series, number six.
	It's called The Split.
	He's also my colleague at townhall.com.
	Kurt Schlichter, welcome to America First one-on-one.
	Thank you for sharing my literary cholera with everybody.
	No, guys, it's fun.
	You've got to check it out, whether it's the 21 lies about you and President Trump, or whether it's the Kelly Turnbull series.
	But first, for those who, I don't know, have been hiding under a rock for a few years, who've just accidentally landed fortuitously on this show, on this part of their dial, on this YouTube rumble extravaganza, let's talk a little about Who Colonel K is.
	We call each other our war college buddies.
	You have described yourself.
	Is it on your Twitter feed?
	Yes, former armed car wash operator.
	Most people have no idea what that refers to.
	So talk to us a little bit about what you do in Civvy Street and what you did when you wore the cloth of the Republic.
	Well, Dr. Gorka, I was going to UC.
	I'm a suburban guy, right?
	My parents come from kind of rural Pennsylvania.
	But their parents were both teachers.
	Actually, very interesting, my parents were, my grandparents were both overage Navy officers.
	Both were high school or college coaches.
	Both went into the Navy and were directed to the Pacific.
	Both took over Marine Corps fighter pilot recreation areas.
	In the Pacific.
	But these are separate careers that are just mirroring each other?
	They both had this identical thing.
	In fact, my mother's father played poker with Joe Foss, who would win the Medal of Honor and later become head of the NRA.
	And I've got his diary.
	That became interesting when I went to Kosovo in deployment in 2004 through 2006.
	I went with a guy named Bill Foss, who was his nephew.
	But you weren't with the Navy or the Marines.
	What were you doing?
	I was in the Army.
	I was born in Ohio, but I grew up in San Mateo, which is halfway between Silicon Valley and San Francisco.
	And at the time, it was a nice middle class area.
	Everybody had like a station wagon, as opposed to a bunch of rich, neurotic leftists.
	Station wagons with the fake wood on the side, right?
	Yes, literally.
	That is literally what I grew up around.
	It wasn't quite leave it to beaver because I grew up in a place called the Highlands, which had these mid-century modern homes called Eichlers, which have these weird angles and they look vaguely Japanese.
	So I'm kind of strange when people see like the Brady Bunch house, they think, oh, that's a normal American house.
	I think it looks weird.
	Because I grew up in this community.
	That explains a lot.
	And all the hipsters live there now.
	That explains a lot.
	Well, anyway, let me get to my point.
	I went to UC San Diego and I had some adventures there, including writing for the conservative paper, working for Duncan Hunter on Capitol Hill.
	And I was bored.
	I was bored.
	I didn't know that.
	I didn't know that.
	So you have some experience in the fetid swamp, Colonel K?
	I did.
	In fact, I know the tactical layout of Capitol Hill.
	So I was kind of laughing when AOC said that she was Cowering in the Canon office building, afraid that a bunch of middle-aged Trump fans were going to come and molest her, considering she was like a half mile from where they were, and they weren't going to get there without walkers.
	In another building.
	Let's be just clear here.
	This woman who said she thought she was going to get raped was in another building.
	In a different building, and it's not like a close building.
	It's like far away.
	Um, and, uh, you sweat a lot going there because, uh, it's a giant swamp.
	So, um, I wanted to do something different.
	I didn't want to go to law school.
	My mom was a lawyer and she became a judge later.
	Uh, but I didn't want to do that.
	I, I thought, well, I'll join the military.
	My family's all military.
	And of course my dad says, well, I want you to go in the Navy.
	So I joined the army and I joined as an enlisted guy when it was a private, but I had the promise of officer candidate school.
	So I went through basic training, uh, as a PFC.
	And I was tentatively promoted to sergeant, but I never wore the rank.
	Went through officer candidate school, passed it.
	Went to chemical officer basic.
	I didn't get my wish.
	I wanted infantry.
	They gave me chemical, because it's heavy in math.
	And that was my worst subject.
	So learned a lot about the army there.
	Can I just remind you, I think this is an international, maybe a Western Anglo phenomena.
	So I joined the British Army Reserves, as you know, and I ended up in an intel unit, Intelligence and Security Group V.
	And of course, there's a couple of jobs you can do in intel, uniformed intel.
	You can be a photo interpreter.
	You can do tactical intelligence for the regiment in Hereford for the SAS.
	Or the third option we had is to be an interrogator.
	So if the balloon goes up, I'm going to be the guy interrogating the Soviets.
	And they looked at me and they said, do you speak any languages?
	I said, yes, French, German, and Hungarian.
	Good.
	You'll be a Russian interrogator.
	Of course you would.
	Thanks.
	Of course.
	Magyar-speaking dudes out there.
	Well, we got plenty of Hungarian stuff, okay?
	We got plenty of that.
	We're covered.
	So you're crap at math, and so you become the chemical officer.
	They made me a chemical officer, and it was interesting.
	I had some adventures there.
	I ended up the number one graduate of the chemical school, and they got a platoon leader gig in Germany.
	So I go over to Stuttgart for a couple years, And I do, you know, I'm a lieutenant, then I'm an XO, then I'm getting out of the army, and I'm gonna go law school or something.
	So they give me this community job, which, you know, I'm gonna run out the clock for, like, the last year, basically doing nothing except doing the general's bidding, including, like, watching his beautiful 17-year-old girl and making sure that the single lieutenants, like me, stay the hell away from her.
	So that was kind of a smart gig.
	Then Sam Hussein invaded Kuwait, and suddenly VII Corps gets mobilized.
	I'm still working the community.
	I'm actually deploying people.
	The night before my unit-to-be left, the new lieutenant who was going to take one of the platoon leaders left on an accident, and they go, hey Schlichter, pack your stuff.
	Oh, okay.
	I don't have much stuff, and it's a desert, so I'm not going to need to take all this cold weather gear.
	Yeah, because it's really warm.
	The desert at night, it's suntan time.
	Suntan time.
	I've never been so cold in my life as I was out in the desert.
	And eventually there was one day, it was actually on my birthday, I was going between fighting positions.
	I took over for the sergeants because they were exhausted.
	So I was sergeant on the ground, went between fighting positions, my canteens froze on my hip.
	And at one point I mentioned that in some tweet.
	I just thought, oh, that's an amusing anecdote.
	And all these leftists were like, hey man!
	You!
	You!
	Stolen Valor!
	Frozen canteens!
	I'm like, it's like, if I was gonna steal Valor, okay, I don't think going, hey it was really cold and my canteens froze would like, be it.
	Is that true?
	Is that true?
	You had snowflakes challenge you on the temperature in the desert at night?
	Are you serious?
	I had one go and find a, uh, A weather report for all of Saudi Arabia that had it about like three degrees above freezing.
	And he's like, see, see!
	Was it Brian Stelter?
	It was not a potato.
	It was something about as smart as one.
	And I'm just like, you know, the magic of social media, because it's a place where stupid people can be stupid and unashamed.
	So that's kind of the downside of it.
	I really like social media.
	Anyway, I came back, got in the Guard, immediately went to the Los Angeles Riots for three weeks during my first year of finals.
	So you leave the Army, join the National Guard, and then... Well, it's still the same commission.
	I just had another commission for California.
	Right, for California, and then it all kicks off in Los Angeles.
	Three weeks, and my unit was in Inglewood, downtown.
	I actually had no guns because I had sold them in Germany, so I get to drive into Inglewood unarmed.
	Hang on!
	The guy who serves in Germany, who sells his guns.
	Everybody else buys guns in Germany and brings them home.
	What are you doing?
	I could get guns easy there.
	I think I had a CZ-75 and a couple others.
	I like that.
	Yeah, I need to get another one.
	But yeah, so I drive in without it.
	Everybody there is packed.
	I had a guy who's literally a postman, comes in with a duffel.
	A dumps, like every gun you've ever seen on a table.
	Everyone's like going, okay, thank you.
	Cause we had no ammo because of course, being the military, they decided the best place to keep the ammo is in one place.
	Cause then none of it can get lost and it's easy to count.
	All right, start for a second.
	Can I, this is like synergist.
	I've got to tell you a story.
	So I did an S type when I was in the reserves, which means you actually go on active duty for a short period.
	And this was during Gulf one and then Bosnia.
	My buddy deploys on Gulf One, and I'm pissed because I'm back in England in an intelligence cell, and he deploys with his buddies.
	The movement of forces was so fast in that hundred hour war that this buddy of mine, who's a full screw, he's a corporal, has to guard a thousand captured Iraqi prisoners.
	I saw him!
	With one SA-80 rifle and dude, he just, he was really, he had one clip, one magazine of rounds to cover a thousand Iraqis who just wanted out of the war.
	That's another great connection across the pond between the Brits and Americans.
	I think every army's the same.
	I think it might be.
	We're talking to Colonel K. Kurt Schlichter.
	You've got to check him out.
	You've got to follow him.
	We'll discuss his Twitter game.
	It's at Kurt Schlichter, senior contributor to townhall.com, author of the Kelly Turnbull books.
	Latest is The Split.
	We're going to continue.
	Where are we?
	We're talking to Kurt Schlichter.
	We've got up to his deployments in the Middle East.
	We got up to the deployment in Los Angeles.
	Tell us a little bit about being on the streets of America in uniform trying to stop insanity.
	Well, all my guys were from South Central.
	So it was the guys from the area that was rioting and they were having none of it.
	They were They were regulating, and I was out there for three weeks.
	Now, yesterday I found out that a small fracas can emotionally break and devastate me, being out on the streets for three weeks.
	I don't know what's wrong with me, Dr. Gorka.
	I go home, I have a beer, and I act like a man.
	So why are you crying right now, like those police officers from D.C.?
	That's my parade!
	Where's your tissue?
	And you're crying.
	You're not crying.
	I'm not crying.
	I don't know what it is.
	How bad was it?
	How bad was it good?
	Tell us about it.
	It was bad.
	It was bad.
	Things on fire.
	I rolled up to going into air.
	I roll up to a police checkpoint.
	That cop, he's got like a Remington 870.
	And he looks at me.
	I'm in uniform.
	I'm in my Chevy Beretta.
	I wish I had a Beretta.
	And, you know, no air conditioning.
	I mean, it's a piece of crap car.
	And he goes, where are you going?
	I said, my unit's in there.
	He goes, Do you have a gun?
	I say, no.
	He goes, you sure you want to go in there?
	I'm like, no.
	But what am I going to do?
	He goes, drive real fast.
	My battalion commander, who I'm now very close to, he ended up a typical guy.
	He saw somebody shoot someone else.
	So he gets out of his car and chases them without a gun.
	That was one of my first experiences really wrangling colonels because I was in his Humvee.
	So I spent a lot of time realizing, hey, I need to make sure the colonel sleeps, because he wouldn't sleep unless someone told him to.
	Actually, I learned a tremendous amount about leadership.
	I wasn't real happy with my active duty leadership.
	My platoon of 4th Platoon, 51st Chemical Company, had been cut to 7th Corps main headquarters.
	So I was at the headquarters of 7th Corps during the 100 hours.
	I actually heard radio calls.
	Read about but I was so far in the rear you'd have to FedEx bullets to hit me But it was I mean it was a fascinating experience But this was this I got to work very closely and I when he says armed car wash on Twitter It means he's doing the decontam.
	I mean he's doing the decontamination unit and we actually had the most machine guns per capita We had one one m60 machine gun for every three soldiers Wow, that's a nice one per vehicle.
	That's a nice proportion of M60s.
	That's a lot of firepower.
	And I remember that I go, I said, you know, of course, platoon sergeant goes and gets beans and bullets.
	He comes back with his trailer full of stuff.
	I'm like, what's in there?
	He goes, oh, about 20,000 rounds.
	We got, we got claymores, we got AT5s, hand grenades.
	I'm like, See, the thing that people don't understand is, look, the American way of war is not about finesse.
	You want the quintessential American general.
	It's not Patton with his bold maneuvers, though that's a part of it.
	Ulysses S. Grant grinding out victory because he's got a dozen factories back there pumping out bullets and powder and other equipment.
	I remember one day I come over a hill in the desert and there's nothing there in this giant wadi.
	It's like a three mile wide wadi called Wadi Al Batin.
	Nothing in it.
	I go over it three days later and as far as the eye can see are connexes.
	We moved a city there in three days.
	We move 500,000 Americans and everything they need to live and operate to a desert where there was like one road and it was like a two-lane road.
	And we did that in a matter of weeks.
	It was astonishing.
	So, Kurt, let me tell you.
	I can tell you the moment, the nanosecond when I realized what a superpower truly is.
	And this was before I was an American.
	I was married to an American, but I was living in Budapest.
	And I got a gig teaching counter-terrorism for the D.O.D.
	out of a U.S.
	base in Germany.
	I mean, literally, it is paradise on earth.
	It's called the Marshall Center.
	It's in Garmisch-Partenkirchen if you're in the army.
	Oh, jeez.
	Yeah, I know.
	Yeah, that's a tough gig.
	It's a tough gig.
	And I'm traveling twice a year from Budapest to Bavaria for six weeks to teach 05s and 06s counterterrorism after 9-11.
	And one of the things I get to do is I'm in the classroom and blah, blah, blah.
	But on Fridays, before I drove back to Budapest, I go to the PX, I go to the commissary, and I stock up for stuff for my kids and my wife, because my wife's American, the kids, you know, they like Lunchables.
	I mean, they like, you know, Tootsie Rolls and all that stuff.
	Here I am.
	I am in the midst of the most beautiful part of Europe, Bavaria.
	The mountains here, the meadows, the cows with the little cow bells.
	It is, you know, Edelweiss is jingling in the background.
	And I go to the commissar and I go to the gross, on the base, and what I find in the fridge American fresh milk.
	We are in the heart of the best dairy country in Europe, the Bavarian, you know, mountainside.
	And it's America.
	And we're a superpower.
	And our troops and their families and their kids are gonna get to drink a fresh American milk, damn it!
	We're gonna fly it across the Atlantic.
	That's when I realized, Yeah, there's only one country that can do that, and that's America.
	Uh, yeah, I had a, uh, and here's a story that sums it up.
	I don't tell my war stories, because I'm not Pete Buttigieg, right?
	I'm not Dick Blumenthal.
	I'm not a hero.
	You're not Kinzinger.
	You're not the man who tweets about himself being a hero.
	He actually says, we heroes.
	Oh, dear God.
	Okay.
	One of my missions was at VII Corps, I went around to teach people, you know, and check installations because I'd have to go decontaminate.
	We have combat support hospital nearby, obviously.
	You know, if you're bringing people there, there's going to be contamination.
	So I go over there and they say, oh, well, you're a 54 Bravo, the little specialist, a E4.
	is over there, you know, Specialist Jones, and he'll help you out, Lieutenant.
	I go over to his giant tent.
	This is just Specialist Jones's tent.
	I walk in.
	He's got a little mini fridge there, and a desk, and a bed.
	This is a specialist!
	And I think nothing of this except in retrospect.
	I go up to him.
	I sit down.
	We start talking about how we're going to do things if people who've been spilled on come in.
	And we hear over the klaxon, because the war had started, hey, inbound, we got EPWs, routine, you know, landing, five minutes.
	Okay, so what does that mean?
	It means we sent a multi-million dollar helicopter and its precious crew north to get POWs with routine injuries.
	Routine injuries are like broken wrists.
	Some you put them in a car and drive them back.
	We're sending helicopters to get these guys.
	He looks at me.
	And he kinda thinks for a second, opens the door of his fridge, grabs one of the hundred red cans, and turns to me and goes, sir, do you think he'd like a Coke?
	Oh my.
	An injured prisoner.
	Yes.
	Yeah, a guy trying to allegedly kill us 20 minutes ago.
	And all this guy can think of is, oh, well.
	But what if he wants a diet Coke, Kurt?
	That's the question.
	Then he would have had the choice.
	Maybe a Mr. Pibb?
	I hear that's very popular in Nasiriyah.
	I mean, that was interesting.
	I had a similar one when I was... I later deployed to Kosovo after 9-11.
	Which was worse?
	Let me ask you this before we get to Kosovo.
	Just a yes or no answer.
	Streets of LA, Rodney King, or the Balkans during the Balkan Wars?
	Well, I was 2004-2005, so the wars were over.
	It was really a vacation.
	We didn't shoot anybody, but we kept the peace, and you could see visible improvement.
	They sent a bunch of us guardsmen there, and a bunch of us lawyers.
	Many of us had our own businesses.
	The Kosovar Albanians loved us, because we would go teach them how to do business.
	Well, of course.
	So you beautifully segued.
	So here's my question.
	How did we get From Army, National Guard, Balkans, Middle East, to being the anti-defamation lawyer for Ben Shapiro.
	So here we are with Kurt Schlichter.
	I gotta ask the question, how do you end up where you are today?
	How does your military experience lead you to anti-defamation lawyer Ben Shapiro, townhall.com and author extraordinaire in both fiction and non-fiction?
	Where's the transition there?
	Well, look, I always, you know, I just naturally used the strategy and tactics that I learned in the military, the decision-making process.
	Another guy who was with me, eventually went to Kosovo with me, a captain named Seth Goldberg.
	He was armor.
	And we got together, we worked together on a couple projects.
	A third friend of ours, who was full-time in the Guard, was accused, and this is 96, 97, Accused of allowing his guys to drink vodka and smoke dope on a contract bus going to training.
	Naturally, this had a deleterious effect on his career.
	And we took it to trial.
	This was my first plaintiff's trial.
	I'd done defense trials.
	And we won $3,049,912 and I dated two of the jurors.
	$10,912, and I dated two of the jurors.
	And I was single at the time.
	And that was my first defamation case.
	It was the biggest verdict, I think it was probably the biggest defamation verdict in 98.
	It was September 98.
	And, uh, uh, you know, and we collected our money.
	And, uh, eventually this guy, still trying to get his reputation back, because the military, you get a whiff of, at the time, you get a whiff of drugs, and the military just, everyone thinks you're garbage.
	He goes to Iraq, gets hit in the head, He's in the green zone.
	The guy next to him gets killed.
	He gets hit in the head with a 122mm rocket that doesn't detonate.
	What?
	Yes.
	It goes through the wall, kills the guy next to him, hits him in the head.
	And luckily he made it his 60th birthday in a week.
	Unfortunately I won't be able to go share it with him.
	Unbelievable.
	Okay, so you start working in the legal sphere, at what point, and for what reason do you start writing?
	And the nonfiction I understand, because you've got an identity, you're conservative, you're a patriot, you love America, you're still serving America.
	Explain to us, because I'm curious, as I mentioned the last time we spoke, I'm dabbling, putting my toes in the water on this issue.
	Why do you start writing fiction?
	Tell us, tell all of our audience and millions of listeners about Kelly Turnbull.
	Well, it's all Andrew Breitbart's fault, as most things are.
	He's also the guy who introduced me to Ben Shapiro.
	What happened is I wrote fiction, or I wrote political stuff and humor at UC San Diego.
	Then I freelanced a bit during the 90s.
	I'd write for Army Times or whatever.
	I also wrote jokes for bar trivia video games.
	So you'd have, like, the trivia question and then a joke, and I would write that.
	Of course you did.
	But, you know, it gets to be about 2008, 2009, and I got to know Andrew Breitbart.
	Somebody at law school, I knew from law school, said, you ought to talk to this guy on this Facebook thing.
	He seems a lot like you.
	And we clicked over Mexican food and 80s music.
	And I knew that Big Hollywood was happening.
	Big Hollywood was one of the original verticals at Breitbart.com.
	So they had these verticals, they had politics, they had culture, they had Big Hollywood.
	Sorry, go ahead.
	And I saw that the new Star Trek movie at the time was going to be released in Kuwait first for our soldiers.
	They would preview it there.
	I thought, that's good.
	You always want to reinforce success.
	Remember, I'm still going up in the Guard at the same time.
	I think by then I'm a lieutenant colonel and a battalion commander.
	Or I finished battalion command as a squadron commander for the Cav.
	So I'm like, oh, well, Andrew's going to want to know about this.
	Andrew, hey, this is happening.
	Why don't you get someone to write it up?
	He goes, why don't you?
	And, you know, cue Michael Corleone in the only good line in the third movie.
	I try getting out.
	They keep pulling me back in, Dr. Gorka.
	So I started writing.
	Now, we all know.
	And I worked for him for a while.
	He passed away.
	I saw him two weeks before.
	And I warned him, look, you look terrible.
	You need to take care.
	I'm fine, Kurt.
	I'm fine.
	I got a lot of work to do.
	And sadly, his heart gave out.
	So I ended up as a national security editor for Breitbart before I joined the White House.
	But I never got to meet Andrew.
	Was he as utterly unique as he sounds?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	He was a true visionary.
	And I'm not just saying that because he's a friend.
	First of all, when I say I was a friend of Andrew Breitbart, Everyone was a friend of Andrew Breitbart.
	If you were in the movement at that time, you knew Andrew, and you had stories of partying with him, and you had crazy stories.
	Just like me, I would get phone calls out of the blue.
	Hey, Kurt, I want to put on skates, go down to Pershing Square, and hassle the commies.
	Want to come?
	You know, I mean, that's the most quintessential Andrew thing ever.
	And he was a great guy.
	He was a visionary.
	He saw things in ways other people couldn't.
	I haven't.
	I've known a lot of interesting people, some famous people, some very talented people, very few visionaries.
	He was one of them.
	All the hype is true, Dr. Gore.
	He was a great guy.
	And I really, you know, I think he really sacrificed him.
	I don't think he meant to, but he he he he was 100 percent decade to his country, loved the country, loved what it meant, loved freedom.
	He just a great guy.
	And he always said politics is downstream from culture.
	And he always lamented the fact that we aren't out there in the culture.
	And if you go look at all the woke garbage on Netflix, et cetera, you'll see that, you know, it's just not conservative.
	So that's why you started writing fiction, Kurt, because he said... It's a lot of it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Andrew really inspired me.
	I said, well, how about I just do it myself?
	And I got this kind of idea.
	Hey, how about the country splits in two?
	And of course, I'll throw in all the action adventure stuff.
	See, I wanted to write an airplane book, right?
	A book you read on the airplane.
	But I'll throw in some humor, and it'll be fine.
	And I'm not gonna have any characters.
	I mean, I'll have a character, but it's just gonna be action.
	And when do you write the first one?
	September 2016.
	Wow!
	It immediately goes to, like, number 200 on Amazon. 250.
	And I'm like, wow!
	That's nuts!
	And it's selling really well!
	So I write another!
	So we're at number six.
	We're talking to Kurt Schlichter.
	The split.
	Kurt Schlichter's latest Kelly Turnbull book.
	We've got to talk about nonfiction.
	We've got to talk about politics.
	Let me...
	transition because this this hour is just it's just disappearing on me and it's very it's very annoying I won't shut up no no no because because we're just covering so many different cool things so here's let's get political for at least just just a few minutes I mean just pure politics I'm loving it.
	You are in a very small group of people that I modestly place myself in, that are, let's just say, robust in our attitude to this country, are rather pugnacious.
	We don't believe in the Marquis of Queensbury rules, and we want to save this country.
	And if you don't understand, just read his Twitter feed.
	Just read Kurt Schlichter's Twitter feed to get a sense of the man and then buy his books.
	And let me finish the map of politics.
	So on the left we have a Democrat Party that's gone.
	It's on coke, it's on meth, it is radical, left-wing, socialist, defending the Cuban regime, opening our borders, saying white supremacy is the problem, hunting down enemies inside our country.
	And then we have a Republican Party where there's a few of us, like you and me, who believe in MAGA, America First, what Donald Trump represents.
	Then there is the lumpen establishment, the rhino-GOP feckless cuckolds.
	And then there are the never-Trumpers like Bill Kristol.
	And then these David French types who are like, they're like pseudo-everything.
	I mean, they're just, there's not an ounce of anything in there.
	It's just jello.
	At least Bill Kristol is full of bile and openly bilious.
	David French doesn't have anything in him.
	Is it really as bad as I see it?
	I think it's better.
	First of all, we are making progress.
	We have gotten rid of a lot of the Republicans in name only.
	We've gotten a lot of the never-Trumpers have gone.
	A lot of them have, you know, repented.
	And Donald Trump convinced a lot of people, look, I was a Cruz guy.
	I wrote checks to the guy.
	I thought this guy's a moot TV star.
	He used to be a Democrat.
	He's a New Yorker.
	I love what he's saying.
	I just don't believe a word that he's going to do it, because I've been trained.
	Republicans, break your heart.
	You know, we conservatives are the abused wives of American politics.
	Our husband always comes home.
	He's got liberal lipstick on and he smells like Chanel No.
	5.
	And I expected the same out of Donald Trump, and he won me over by doing the things he said he was going to do.
	That doesn't mean I can't critique him.
	I do, vigorously, where I think he's tactically or strategically mistaken.
	And I'm entirely unsentimental.
	I appreciate what he did, but if somebody better comes along, it's you, because that's the army officer in me.
	So you have a positive, you think it's moving in the right direction and the good guys are winning?
	We are, slowly but surely.
	Right now, there are two giant traitors out of 110 Republican congressmen.
	There's like two real traitors.
	You're doing better than 99%.
	But you don't think there's a large proportion that are just waiting for it to get back to normal?
	Yes, there are.
	I prefer true believers.
	I'll take people who are terrified.
	I'm very Roman.
	The Romans were like, not particularly... Functionally, there's no difference.
	If you vote the way we want you to vote, it's okay.
	It's good.
	All right.
	So that's interesting that you're so positive and that's clearly why you do what you do.
	The latest book is Split.
	You got to check it out.
	Kelly Turnbill from our friend, Kurt Schlichter.
	Let me play you something that gives me, makes me think the glass is half empty.
	So this is a montage from just the last few weeks and just the last few months.
	It's an audio montage.
	Play cuts.
	And if confirmed, I will fight hard to stamp out sexual assault and to rid our ranks of racists and extremists.
	The job of the Department of Defense is to keep America safe from our enemies.
	But we can't do that if some of those enemies lie within our own ranks.
	On the issue of critical race theory, et cetera, I'll obviously have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is.
	You said the words white rage.
	Yeah, I said I'm not going to discuss it right now.
	I think it's a very complicated topic.
	Is that I will never walk in the shoes of a black American or any other minority.
	But over the past week, after you watch what's going on, we can't be under any illusions about the fact that racism is alive and well in our country.
	And I can't be under any illusions that we don't have it in our Navy.
	And we won't ignore what our intelligence agency has determined to be the most lethal terrorist threat to the homeland today.
	White supremacy is terrorism.
	We're not going to ignore that either.
	So we have there the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin.
	We have the most senior military officer in America, Mark Willey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
	We have the most senior naval officer, Admiral Mike Gilday.
	Then we have the man who bears the title of President, who happens to be the Commander-in-Chief, a senile man called Joe Biden, all saying that America is racist, the military is racist, and white supremacy is the primary threat.
	This is more significant, isn't it?
	It is... I think it's a desperation move, frankly.
	But I have a couple observations.
	For instance, if the military is as rife with white supremacists, which I never met in my 27 years, but if it is literally overflowing with these people, I would have to blame senior leaders and four-stars.
	Like them.
	Because this is their creation.
	So, did they just inherit it?
	I mean, they've been in the military 35 years.
	Is this just a problem they just discovered once their senior, senior, senior raider decided that was a big deal?
	As for Biden, he's just a clown.
	The idea that white supremacist terrorists is the greatest threat to America.
	First of all, I thought it was the weather.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Climate change.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it doesn't feel exhausting, exhausted to you, that they don't even believe it.
	They're just mouthing these words.
	It's kind of like, you know, the guy from TASS who would go on America TV and just talk about how the Soviet Union is a worker's paradise.
	And you just felt he's just going through the motions.
	I kind of get that vibe from him.
	It's a little embarrassing.
	But that does, again, so if you flip it from what we said last time, it doesn't matter whether they believe it or not, if they follow through on their actions, if they have these 60 day stand downs, if they have these rooting out of white.
	I mean, what is China doing?
	What does Russia think of what we're doing, Kurt?
	My thought right now, first of all, I think, first of all, I think Putin, you know, Putin had the audacity of an Alexander or Julius Caesar, and of course that's not a given, of any reasonably good Roman general, he'd have grabbed the Baltic states and the rest of Ukraine long ago, knowing he couldn't do anything.
	If Xi was aggressive like that, he'd have Taiwan already.
	And I don't think there's much we can do about it.
	But I don't think Dr. Gorka, I think at some level they're channeling Admiral Ackbar from Return of the Jedi.
	It's a trap!
	They can't really be this stupid!
	They're trying to sucker us in!
	It's a trap!
	But they are!
	We need to get that in our sound box or our video clip of Evergreens.
	It's a trap!
	We talk to Kurt Schlichter, the author of the Kelly Turnbull novels and also the 21 lies about you and President Trump.
	Follow him on Twitter, read his articles at townhall.com.
	Kurt, Colonel K, if I may, let's talk about the events of the last few days.
	Let's talk about the commission, the committee, the select committee.
	I didn't come up with this, or maybe I just repackaged it.
	I truly believe what we're witnessing in America, Kurt, is an attempt to criminalize not just the few cretins that created damage on January the 6th, but 74 million Americans, the criminalization of conservatism.
	Do you concur?
	And if so, how dangerous is it, or will it create A rebound effect, a blowback where people who are apolitical wake up and realize what's going on.
	Well, I think that's exactly what it is, and I think that's exactly what it's going to provoke.
	You've got to understand that our elite, our ruling class, lives a cloistered existence within its own bubble, its academia, its media.
	And it's tempting to put those values on the rest of us.
	And if you get, you know, east of I-5 or west of I-95, America changes a lot.
	You walk into a bar in Tulsa, Oklahoma, with a bunch of cowboys, and start confronting them and interrogating them about their white privilege.
	And see how many teeth you walk out with.
	Americans are the nicest people on Earth.
	Now, you hear about the ugly American, but the ugly American's not mean.
	He's just a little vulgar compared to some of those suave French guys.
	But he's very polite, and he will try and be nice, unless he's maybe a New Yorker.
	But there is a limit to it.
	And you push an American far enough, and he'll freaking kill you.
	It's the 800-pound gorilla who's very happy just sitting there munching his bananas, but if you piss him off, he'll rip your head off, right?
	Exactly.
	And I don't think these guys understand this.
	Look, we have a Democrat party that's led by people who've never been in a fistfight.
	But they've been wedgied many times.
	They've been wedgied many times, and that bitter experience and being turned down by attractive girls has broken them in body and spirit.
	Unfortunately, there is this establishment thing.
	Remember, and I hate saying it, I feel like a Marxist, but class is tremendously important.
	Who does George Bush hang out with?
	Does he hang out with the people who supported him at great personal cost and abuse, who maybe aren't rich, and maybe aren't fancy, and he won't see at the country club unless they're fixing something?
	Or does he hang with the kind of people who called him a racist, sexist, borderline chimpanzee, but all of whom are within his little social set.
	Of course, he's friends with Michelle and Barack and Bill and Hillary, and he stabs us in the back.
	Class is a tremendously powerful force, and I think sometimes we forget that.
	There is class solidarity.
	You see that with some Republicans.
	And there are Republicans, and you've been around them.
	They'll look down, you know, gosh, I get so tired of all those people and their Jesus and their guns.
	Well, I don't get tired of them.
	But, you know, the guys who do campaign consulting sometimes do, which is why they always seem to lose.
	And that is one of the problems.
	Our rulers genuinely dislike us.
	Back, you know, 50 years ago, we had a... 50 years ago is kind of dying out, but we had a kind of a ruling class that had some sort of obligation.
	We had a ruling class, you know, in the 40s that beat Hitler and beat the depression.
	And there was a noblesse oblige.
	Exactly.
	I was going to say that, but I don't speak French.
	There was a ruling class that didn't hate the people who actually built America and kept it running.
	Yeah.
	And it's kind of a function of their contempt for normal people kind of is countered by their own Oh, we lost him there.
	We've been talking to Kurt Schlichter, the author of the Kelly Turnbill series of novels, also the 21 lies about Donald Trump and you.
	Please check him out, follow him, read his articles at townhall.com.
	Kurt, are you there?
	I'm here.
	So this is massively interesting.
	So I'll be honest.
	I'll be brutally honest.
	I try not to think and I don't think in terms of class.
	But your observation is really spot on.
	There is a class element.
	To what we are witnessing in America today, and to your point about the real America, that if you push it and prod it, we'll actually react in ways that you're not ready for.
	Let me tell you a little story back from my Garmisch days, from that course.
	So we were teaching a course for the US military that invited partners from around the world, and I mean from Bangladesh to Poland, we'd invite CT operators for a six-week counter-terrorism course.
	Once, the French government decided to send an observer.
	Of course it wasn't a participant, because it's France!
	We don't participate, we're an observer.
	So there's this naval officer from the French Defense Ministry who sits at the back of the classroom just watching, saying nothing, okay?
	And one of the first things we do is, you know, I'm a former interrogator, my MOS was an interrogator, and we spend a whole block on how you do interrogations effectively in an environment where you're going to arrest jihadis who are prepared to go to You know, on jihad into their salvation by killing infidels.
	And we have to make this point that, you know, torture doesn't work or there is a danger that people make stuff up when you torture them.
	The British policy is no physical torture, just mental, you know, stress and physical stress positions.
	And then, of course, our East European comrades say, oh, no, it works.
	It is good.
	You can do it.
	And then we have to spend the whole seminar explaining to them why it's not good, what you learnt in the Frunze Academy of the Soviet Union may not apply in the 21st century.
	We did this for three hours in a seminar setting.
	And just to illustrate the difference, you mentioned the French.
	Afterwards, in the coffee break, the French commander just sidles up to me and he says, What is the problem?
	You just don't talk about it.
	You do it.
	You just torture them.
	You just don't talk about it.
	It's very, very different.
	It's a very, very different class of military ethics, let us say.
	Anyway, so let's close the discussion on the future.
	You hosted my show while I was traveling.
	God bless you.
	Thank you for doing that.
	And I listened in.
	I check how things are going just for one segment with my guest hosts.
	And you're getting a lot of heat from some of our listeners, some of our callers, because you said Donald Trump may not be the guy or I'm not sure he's the guy next time round.
	I guarantee you he's running.
	I saw him a few weeks ago in New York.
	He's definitely running.
	Talk to us about The future as you see it, as somebody's really on the front bloody line every single day, I mean you are on fire, you don't back down.
	What do you see as the future of MAGA or MAGA and America First and the power relationship between The crazy leftists that are now the Democrats, the swamp, the never Trumpers.
	You sound optimistic, but what kind of scenarios do you have in mind?
	And I'll give this as the last prompt to you.
	Newt Gingrich said two months ago, and I consider him to be one of the smartest guys in America today,
	He said the insanity, the rapidity, the full-bore Mac-12 radicalization of the Democrats, open borders, drop the voting age, stack the Supreme Court, remove the Electoral College, is an indicator that they know they will be wiped out, they will be trounced next year, and they just want to pack it all in now, just shove it all in, and they're desperate.
	Do you buy that?
	It's a good strategy.
	It worked on Obamacare.
	They sacrificed their majority to get Obamacare in.
	Thank you, John McCain, who lied.
	Who betrayed the American people and the people of Arizona.
	He outright lied, and I'm tired of hearing how he's a great and wonderful guy.
	He said, I will do X, and when it came time to do X, he did Y.
	Maybe I'm just not subtle enough, but that sounds like lying to me.
	But we still have Obamacare.
	So they are willing to sacrifice to embed things in our government.
	First of all, I think that for a while, America First and President Trump were too intertwined.
	Obviously, he is the avatar of it.
	He was the standard bearer and may still be.
	But it is a different thing.
	And if Donald Trump said tomorrow, I am retiring and I'm you know, I'm going to Montana and going fishing.
	That would not end the movement.
	That would not stop it.
	The leftists want to believe it will, which is why they personalize it with him.
	But it's not personal.
	It's much, much bigger.
	He tapped into something.
	He didn't invent it.
	And who's going to be the standard bearer for that?
	First of all, that is the faction of the Republican Party that's going to dominate.
	We're not going to get a Nikki Haley.
	No.
	We're not going to get a Jeb.
	And look what happened to Kristi Noem.
	She pretended to be All-America First, and then she blew it.
	She let us know who she was on one crucial issue, and she failed the people of her state.
	She failed the test and we are not a forgiving group.
	Like I said, I'm utterly unsympathetic and unsentimental.
	If President Trump is not the best guy, I don't want him.
	If he is the best guy, I want him.
	Will he run?
	I know you've seen him and talked to him.
	I've talked to other people who've talked to him.
	He seems to be leaning that way.
	I know he's a smart guy who keeps his options open.
	Why should he make a decision now?
	If I'm him, I'm preparing to go so that I'm ready if that's the right choice.
	Will it be in a year or two?
	Remember the whole Donald Trump thing.
	Let's think tactic.
	We know strategy.
	And we know a strategy for America First.
	What's tactics?
	Well, the tactics for Donald Trump was be loud, aggressive and confront people in ways they've never been confronted before.
	And that worked six years ago.
	It's going to be eight years old.
	Does that mean it won't work again?
	Maybe, maybe not.
	But you want to check out your, you want to see if you've got something else in the toolbox that might work better.
	My other question is, did Donald Trump learn?
	He had some problems with personnel.
	I think towards the end he was learning a lot.
	I think he has some residual respect for institutions like the New York Times, because he recently talked to New York Times reporters.
	I don't get it.
	Uh, because they burn him every time.
	Uh, has he, has he learned from that?
	Because I think that was a tactical error.
	Uh, so I mean, these are all questions.
	I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility.
	He has a primary fight against some, and I don't have any special insight against someone like, uh, Ron DeSantis.
	I don't think, but I don't think it's wrong to expect him to earn it.
	It doesn't mean I like him any less.
	He's one of my, I mean, I, I, I, I think the guy was a tremendous president.
	Who, against all odds, accomplished so much, but I'm not here to vindicate him.
	There are other people, I feel, who are running for various offices who are trying to vindicate themselves.
	I don't tolerate that, too.
	If they're not the best, I don't want them.
	If he is the best, I desperately want him.
	here's my and that's a fabulous you know more college level analysis and it's a very sound one here's what my thinking is where it stands right now and you're not you're right who knows in in a year's time or 80 months time we have given what happened to him How he was subverted not just by the establishment, but by people in his administration, by holdovers, even political appointees.
	There is so much real work to be done in, and I don't mean dismantling, I mean demolishing the deep state, that the next president, especially after the next three years, has to come in like a literal berserker.
	Absolutely.
	has to come in like a flame-throwing Arnold Schwarzenegger when he wasn't a cuckboy, you know, absolute berserker to finish the job.
	And right now, and I don't even know if President Trump would want to do that, but I don't see anybody else who would be prepared to do that, which doesn't mean somebody couldn't, you know, come from the middle of nowhere like he did – But the next four years of a Republican presidency has to turn D.C.' 's deep state into a sheet of glass.
	And that's what I'm going to vote for.
	I have a couple tests for the next president.
	Which is, okay, quick quiz.
	Who do you fire first, Ray or Millie, and do you do it before you take the oath or immediately thereafter?
	Yes, yes, yes.
	Right, right.
	I mean, that's it.
	I mean, I would literally, you know, bring somebody in, like, I don't know, Kurt Schlichter.
	Send him over with a portfolio to the Pentagon and have me sit down with generals and go, OK, General, what do you say you do here?
	Yeah, what is your job?
	Explain it to me.
	What is your job?
	Oh, I mean, and the next president's going to need to devote time.
	If you're going to fix the Pentagon, you need an hour a day.
	What do you need an hour for?
	Hey, Secretary of Defense, I just read that Ibram Kendi is on the book list at West Point.
	You're fired!
	I want the entire chain of command from the superintendent through you, through whoever put on the list, in my office tomorrow to brief me on how you're going to fulfill my intent.
	Bring your executive officer, And we're going to spend a half hour, and you're going to brief me, and if I'm unsatisfied, you're going to be relieved, and I'm going to direct you to be retired from active duty.
	And then you do that a couple times.
	The nice thing about the military, why the military went bad so fast, is it's a hierarchical organization.
	Soldiers do what commanders check.
	If commanders check Wokeness, you'll get Wokeness.
	If commanders check Warfighting Ability, they will gleefully and gladly give you Warfighting Ability.
	It's fabulous.
	Leadership 101.
	You've got my vote to be that sub-berserker in the DoD or anywhere else across the architecture of the national security state.
	Okay, last two very quick questions.
	Last, last, last questions.
	Number one, short answer because we can continue this for hours next time.
	Probably will.
	What I'm most disappointed in is the lack of anybody really doing the heavy lifting, the intellectual heavy lifting for Make America Great Again and America First in the last three years.
	Interesting.
	So when Reagan won, there was a flowering of intellectual activity, apart from a website here and there.
	I love the guys at American Greatness.
	I love the Claremont Institute.
	But we haven't seen a national level debate on what it means to be a Conservative in the mold of America first.
	Do you agree?
	I agree that it's nowhere near what the flowering is nowhere near what was in Reagan.
	A lot of our intellectuals abandoned us.
	They chose their sinecures over uncertainty.
	Or they became irrelevant.
	Or they became irrelevant.
	Like, when Bill Crystal stopped getting his calls returned, or when they mistook him for Billy Crystal when he called the White House and said, hey, I loved, you know, that movie you're in with Jack Palance, City Selectors, he got mad because that was what he was about.
	So it wasn't about thought.
	Now, we do have the Claremont guys are very good.
	Anton's very good.
	Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	For the record here, he's a smart guy.
	He's a dishonorable man.
	Michael Anton on public television after I left the White House lied about me, about Steve Bannon.
	I caught him.
	He refused to apologize.
	So for all of his great articles, he's a putz.
	He's a putz.
	So let's just scrub Michael Anton.
	That's just for the record.
	But you agree we have to do... We need some intellectual...
	We do.
	And some people tried to bring it in.
	I saw Pompeo, who I've got some issues with.
	I don't think he should be president for a couple reasons.
	But I saw him articulated at a Claremont dinner attempting to articulate a America first foreign policy, which I think it was a good start.
	Good.
	It was a good start.
	It's not there yet.
	And you know who we can build it around?
	I mean, VDH has done so much.
	We need 50 VDHs, Victor Davis Hansons.
	Look, intellectuals have gotten a bad rap.
	Yes!
	they behaved badly.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	And look, I'm no one to lie.
	I'm just some infantry guy and I just run my mouth and tell mom jokes.
	But and there's a place for that.
	But we need we need folks who are going to think this through and give us a systemic analysis and give us and tell us what we're what we're really looking at in ways we haven't thought of.
	And get a large chunk of the 70 million or the 74 million to sign off on it.
	So we have to have buy-in.
	Okay, I'm out of time.
	This is super fun.
	This is a one-on-one with Kirschlicht.
	The last question, because your books are peppered with hardcore gun stuff.
	It is so cool.
	There are some cameo appearances by certain people who may have national radio shows.
	So you've got to buy the split right now.
	By the split.
	But we've got to give him full credit.
	He was on my radio show a few months ago.
	Who, in Kirchlicht's opinion, makes the finest 1911 handguns in America?
	Well, that's Bill Wilson.
	No doubt.
	Bill Wilson.
	No doubt.
	Alright.
	I mean, it's not... This is a gun that's so much... The Wilson Combat Gun is so much better than I am.
	I shouldn't be allowed in the set.
	It shouldn't be allowed on a holster.
	I shouldn't be allowed to wear it in a holster.
	I handled one of his 9mm, his compact 9mm 1911s in a store.
	It was like, the slide and the rails, it was like it was on glass.
	I'm impressed.
	And that's a kind of, it's like a production gun, but it's custom.
	Great guy too.
	Real American legend.
	A legend.
	Read his book as well, his life story.
	Okay, Kurt, far too much fun.
	We could do it for hours.
	Let's do a Joe Rogan four-hour one next time.
	Follow him at Kurt Schrifter.
	I don't have to smoke dope, do I?
	No, you will not have to smoke dope.
	But we might have some cigars.
	It's called The Split.
	Get it now and follow him and read his articles at Town Hall.
	Respect is due.
	Thank you for doing what you do, Colonel.
	Hey, thanks for having me, Dr. Gorka.
	Real appreciate it.

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