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	That attack on the Capitol.
	You know, white supremacy and patriarchy are very linked in a lot of ways.
	There's a lot of sexualizing of that violence.
	And I didn't think that I was just going to be killed.
	I thought other things were going to happen to me as well.
	So what sounds like what you're telling me right now is that you didn't only think that you were going to die.
	You thought you were going to be raped.
	What is it going to be next?
	I mean, seriously.
	First, she's three blocks away in another building and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tells us she was on the verge of being killed while people are 15 minutes walk away.
	Now, what is it?
	We're almost August.
	We're talking about January the 6th.
	Now she says she feared that she was going to be raped before she was killed because MAGA has some Some mystical connection to sexual violence?
	At what point did America First become dog whistles for rape?
	I'm curious.
	I missed that memo.
	As somebody associated with Make America Great Again from the get-go, as a former strategist of President Trump in the White House, what's the name of this radio show again?
	Oh yes, America First.
	As a guy who has a national radio show called America First.
	I kind of missed it.
	Oh, I'm Sebastian Gawker and this is America First with the Salem Radio Network.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	We have an unbelievable show for you today.
	We're going to talk to the man who wants to take down, yes, to Let's save the beautiful erstwhile state of California.
	Larry Elder will be with us for the whole last hour of the show.
	The man who's running against Pelosi's nephew, Gruesome Newsome.
	We're going to talk to him about why he took that crazy decision.
	We're going to have Jenna Ellis, President Trump's former attorney.
	Jennifer Horner, West Coast Warrior Princess.
	It's a ladies' day today, not you, Larry.
	We're also going to have Trish Reagan to talk to us about the damage being done by Biden to this The greatest nation on God's Earth.
	But first, let's just dwell a little on the question of yesterday's first hearing of the Select Committee on the January 6th, quote-unquote, insurrection.
	The first insurrection in human history where no weapons were brought by the insurrectionists to the event.
	It's rather funny.
	It's like having a tea party with no tea.
	That wouldn't be a tea party in my opinion, but hey, you gotta live in the crazy world of the Democrats.
	But the question is, so first it was death.
	Now it's rape.
	What is it going to be next?
	That she was going to be beamed up into an alien spacecraft?
	Was the Yeti going to kidnap her and take her to his mountain hideaway in the mountainous regions of Nepal?
	It's theatre.
	It's all theatre.
	She's a liar.
	She's not even a Democrat.
	She was elected as a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.
	Yes, DSA.
	She was a member of the Democrat Socialists of America.
	That's why she cannot, she simply refuses to denounce the communist regime in Cuba.
	Instead, she says the people screaming for freedom, for libertad, are doing so because America has oppressed them with an embargo.
	Weird, because they're waving our flags.
	If you're being oppressed by America, maybe you wouldn't actually wave our flag.
	Strange, but that's AOC's world.
	But yesterday, I'm poking fun at her because she is risible, she's stupid, and she's laughable.
	But what happened yesterday is disgraceful.
	Utterly disgraceful.
	Now, before we talk about the committee, let me be clear.
	There's a lot of chest-beating from Conservatives about January the 6th.
	Oh yes, irreprehensible, the thing shouldn't happen.
	Let's be very clear about January the 6th, OK?
	Many different things happened on January the 6th.
	I was there, not at Congress, I was there in the front row listening to my former boss Donald Trump give a speech where he said, we, we are going to peacefully march to Congress to make sure that everything happens the way the Constitution requires it to happen.
	Which it didn't.
	No, it did not.
	Especially with certain members such as Josh Hawley requiring a pause in the count and Mike Pence not doing what was fully in his authority as President of the Senate to send the results back to those four battleground states where the vote tally switched in the middle of the night to be re-certified.
	Didn't happen.
	What did happen on that day?
	Well, number one, there was a peaceful rally under the ellipse of the White House.
	Multiple speakers, Vernon Jones, President Trump.
	I sat next to Rudy Giuliani.
	It was cold.
	My.
	I had a friend there.
	Alex, don't do that again, please.
	She arrived in a sleeveless dress and it was freezing.
	So I gave her my lined Macintosh and I was pretty cold.
	But that's OK.
	That's what you do.
	We listened to the president and then people, not everyone, that's one of our callers, wanted to interpret results rather Imaginatively yesterday, we didn't have 800,000 people stand up and walk from the White House to the Congress.
	No!
	I saw half of them leave.
	Walk to the Metro, walk to their hotel, wherever it was, and maybe 40%.
	Walk to Congress.
	A lot of people.
	Whatever the percentage, a lot of people.
	A fraction of those individuals gained access to Congress in various ways.
	We've seen some video.
	For some reason, millions of minutes of video are not available from the CCTV cameras inside Congress.
	Hmm.
	Why?
	Why?
	Why is it not available?
	So strange.
	What is available from people who are outside is very peculiar.
	In some instances, very disturbingly, Trump supporters, or people dressed like Trump supporters, used violence to gain entry, broke in windows and doors.
	Not good.
	That's a crime.
	You do it in my house, you're gonna get shot.
	Okay?
	Period.
	End of story.
	You break into my house with a weapon, with a steel bar, which you can be used to kill me or my family members, you will pay a penalty at my hands.
	Others We're invited in.
	We're invited in.
	The video is there as plain as day.
	Members of the Capitol Police opening doors, moving barriers aside, having conversations with one of the people inside, saying, OK, you're here, that's fine, just behave yourselves.
	Inside!
	Congress!
	Which, by the way, you can enter.
	I've done it.
	It blew my mind as an immigrant to enter Congress without an invitation, not having to show an ID.
	Why?
	Guess what?
	It's the people's house.
	It's as it should be.
	You have to pass through a magnetometer on a usual day, not that day, but you can go into Congress.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	Beautiful thing.
	And then, what happened?
	There were people, watch the videos, who walked around like they were at, you know, Monticello.
	You know, taking photographs and selfies like they're on a vacation.
	There are others who broke stuff and stole stuff.
	Walked around with Nancy Pelosi's podium, what have you.
	Then the idiots in stupid hats making pronouncements like they're on drugs.
	Yeah, with horns coming out of their fur hats.
	I'd like to get to the bottom of it all.
	Really, I would.
	I'd like to know why a man who calls himself a Black Lives Matter revolutionary was in there filming and then gets invited on CNN to talk about it.
	What's he doing at a MAGA rally for President Trump?
	And then inside Congress.
	And then I'd like to know why Ashley Babbitt was shot.
	The only person who was met with lethal force was an unarmed Air Force veteran shot by an officer whose name until recently, Lieutenant Byrd, was somehow a secret.
	Why is that?
	And the last most important point, and that's why Nancy didn't want Jim Jordan or any other patriot on this select committee, Nancy Pelosi is the de facto mayor of Capitol Hill.
	Why did she refuse assistance?
	Why did she not want the National Guard to be there?
	That's a real question we want answers to.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Give us your take.
	The number 833-33 Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	This is definitely not CNN.
	Transcription by CastingWords
	Transcription by CastingWords Okay, mic's on.
	I'll go ahead and dial her up now.
	Channel one.
	Hello Trish, can you hear us?
	Hey guys, can you hear me?
	Yes, we can hear you.
	And the mics are live on Rumble, just so you are aware.
	And we'll go ahead and put your camera on now.
	There we go.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	America Can you hear me?
	Yes, we can hear you.
	Can you hear us?
	Can you hear me?
	I'm not hearing you.
	Hello, hello, hello.
	Am I not hearing you?
	Can you, you can't, okay, she can't hear us.
	Audio.
	Output.
	Speakers.
	Can you say something?
	One, two, three, four, five, six.
	You can hear us now?
	Yep.
	Good.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Two minutes to air.
	All right.
	We're going to talk about inflation, new mask mandates.
	What's your priority?
	I mean, it's always inflation with me.
	Yep.
	Let me just see what the let's we might want to get into the Fed thing.
	Okay.
	It just came out.
	I mean, mask mandates.
	You know, Seb, I'm kind of libertarian on this.
	If I'm a small business owner and I want to mandate masks, that's my own business, right?
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	And if I lose business because of it, okay.
	If I gain business because of it, okay.
	That's my decision.
	But if the state mandates it?
	But the state mandates are, you know, this is getting a little wacky.
	Okay.
	Good.
	But look, the Fed, The Fed still won't cut back on any of its easy money.
	And this is surreal, OK?
	So now they're using the COVID variant as an excuse to print more money.
	I mean, this is like they're just trying to prop up the Biden administration's economy however they can.
	And it's going to kill everyone.
	I mean, the inflation is already insane.
	All right.
	Good.
	We'll talk about the Fed.
	40 seconds.
	Stand by.
	Standing by.
	Do you want to keep it on the split-screen view the whole time, or switch back and forth?
	Uh, switch back and forth.
	Okay, got it.
	But the way you were doing the one-on-one is just right, to keep it mostly on the guest.
	Got it.
	Alrighty.
	30 seconds.
	Standing by.
	Standing by.
	Standing by.
	Dr. G is in the house on America First.
	Welcome back, dear friends.
	What is happening in this nation?
	Masks, masks, Delta variants, variants for things that, strangely, the vaccine doesn't provide protection.
	Let's talk to somebody who knows the economic ramifications of it all.
	She is our market maven, Trish Reagan.
	Welcome to America First.
	Good to see you again, Sam.
	Follow this lady right now, Trish underscore Reagan, publisher of TrishIntel.com, and of course, The Trish Reagan Show.
	Trish, first things first, a little story, if I may.
	If you indulge me, I went to get some takeout food from a fabulous Indian restaurant near where I live, actually owned by a Nepalese family.
	For some reason, I'm waiting at the bar, and the owner comes out, young man, he's got two restaurants now.
	I didn't broach anything political or anything big, and he starts telling me his life story.
	Comes here age 18 from Nepal.
	For a decade, he votes Democrat because he thinks...
	They're the guys who care.
	They're the guys who look out for the little guy.
	Now, he can't find anybody to work in his restaurant, can't find drivers, and he wants Donald Trump back in office.
	How bad does it have to get before everybody wakes up like this Indian restaurant owner?
	Look, I think small business owners right now are really feeling it, and they're going to feel it once more.
	Seb, we just heard from the Federal Reserve this afternoon.
	They're still not willing to back off their easy money printing policy, right?
	So they're still trying to flood this economy with cash.
	Joe Biden is trying to give everything to everyone and their cousin.
	And, you know, frankly, I'd like to see a little bit more Backbone from some Republicans.
	We got word today that they've agreed on a $1 trillion infrastructure plan.
	I mean, this is money we don't have.
	Okay, why not?
	Why not do what the previous administration did and just lower taxes, lessen regulation, let everybody go back to work, do their thing.
	I mean, if government would just get out of the way and stop trying to micromanage this, we'd be fine.
	But that's not what's happening.
	So consequently, the restaurant owner that you talk to, there's going to be just countless of them all over the country that are struggling with this increasingly because, hey, you know, I mean, why go wash dishes when Uncle Joe is going to pay you just as much to sit at home on the couch?
	Yeah.
	So there's that issue.
	And then the problem of inflation.
	I mean, he's going to have to charge more for all of those entrees on his restaurant menu or for the takeout because he's going to be paying more because the cost of food is going up.
	The cost of gas is going up.
	The cost of diapers is going up.
	I mean, it's all going up.
	And you know what?
	Joe Biden owns this.
	It's like Welcome Back Carter.
	That's what I called today's show, actually.
	Welcome Back Carter.
	Yeah, Carter.
	I remember Carter.
	Right, right, right.
	But there was a 70s TV show or a show about the 70s called that.
	OK, so I'm not being devil's advocate, but I need your market and economic acumen here.
	This isn't a new thing, right?
	The drunken Fed, the drunken sailors on Capitol Hill, the printing of monopoly money isn't a Biden phenomena.
	It seems like we've just been doing this for decades.
	It seems as if there's never, you know, the ferryman who's going to take his due at the end of the day.
	Is this not just a rubber band that constantly stretches?
	At what point does it break?
	You're pushing on a string at some point.
	Okay.
	So what does that look like?
	What causes it to break?
	Right.
	OK, so what causes it to break is when the economy can't keep up with these inflationary prices anymore.
	When you start saying, you know what, I don't think I'm going to get takeout from that Indian restaurant because, like, the prices are insane.
	When everything costs more, which we're getting closer and closer to, well, simultaneously wages go nowhere.
	And I don't anticipate that wages are going to be going up.
	This is like the Barack Obama, Joe Biden years all over again for eight years.
	No economic growth.
	I mean, less than 2% annualized growth, Seb.
	That's what we saw.
	Well, guess what?
	The cost of housing went up.
	The cost of gas went up.
	I mean, everyday living costs for Americans, they went higher.
	Education costs.
	Health care costs, everything became more expensive.
	But guess what?
	Nobody was making any more money.
	That's one of the things that, you know, nobody gives the Trump administration credit enough for.
	But when you look at median incomes under those four, well, three and a half years until COVID, you know, really took the bottom out from under.
	But prior to COVID, everyday Americans were actually doing pretty well.
	Yeah.
	They were doing much better because median income started to go higher.
	And that we had not seen in years.
	So now we get a situation where everything else is going to cost more and yet people aren't going to have as much money.
	Follow her right now, Trish underscore Reagan on Twitter, Trishintel.com, host of the Trish Reagan show with us here at Salem.
	We have yesterday's insane announcement that vaccinated people have to wear masks, which just blows my mind.
	The man who wears the title of president is now considering a vaccine mandate for federal workers.
	I know you are a revolutionary daughter of the live free or die state of New Hampshire.
	What is, explain to us your attitude to all of this and also the impact if states start switching on the mask mandate or the vaccine mandate?
	Well, you know, the vaccine mandates, mask mandates, the shutdowns, I've been saying I would not be at all surprised to see this economy shut down all over again, come fall, come winter.
	So keep that in mind.
	In fact, if you talk to small business owners right now, and I do, a lot of them are sort of prepping for that, that reality.
	You know, a lot of people that want to get medical procedures done now because they're afraid that if they wait until October, November, December, that that, you know, dentist's office or medical procedures office may not be open.
	So I think that people are starting to wake up to that realization.
	As far as the masks go, I mean, the mandate from federal government, I'm troubled by it.
	You know, I literally live free or die, right?
	I kind of feel like this is up to an individual.
	An individual has some choice in this matter, should have some choice in this matter.
	And if you want to get the vaccine, great.
	If you don't want to get it, then are we really going to just shun you as a society?
	I mean, do you not have the same ability to participate in society in the same way?
	I think that's pretty troubling.
	And I worry sometimes that there are those in the administration and those on the left that kind of want to use this as an excuse, right?
	There's kind of this draconian desire that they have to come out with these mandates and kind of rule people from above in a very sort of kingdom-like, king way.
	And that's what troubles me in all of this.
	Look, you know, everybody has a different view of the vaccine.
	You know, I look at it and say, I'm probably better off with the vaccine than not with the vaccine.
	And I think that's probably how a lot of people should approach it.
	But I respect that a lot of people say, you know what, I don't want it because, you know, I have this issue or that issue.
	I feel like I'm safer without it.
	And this is where it just comes back to having some faith and some trust in individuals.
	And you know what, if you're not going to get the vaccine, You're smart not to go out and about, right?
	In places where you might actually get the virus.
	So you're going to take your own safety precautions.
	They've totally lost sight of the importance of the individual and the intelligence of the individual, Seb, to make the right decisions for themselves and their families.
	Free men and women or sheep.
	Read the latest piece at the top of her Twitter feed right now.
	It's a very interesting analysis.
	Joe Biden's disapproval rating has reached 52 percent.
	She's our expert on markets with us every Wednesday.
	Follow her, Trish underscore Regan.
	Subscribe right now to her podcast, The Trish Regan Show.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	Your call's next.
	833... Thank you, Trish.
	33 Gorka.
	That's 833-334-6752.
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	All right.
	Thank you very much, Trish.
	Thank you, Trish.
	Thank you, Paul.
	Thank you, guys.
	- Thank you guys. - Thank you guys. - All right.
	Zoom out a bit, there we go.
	Titles.
	- Okay. - Okay.
	- Okay.
	- Okay. - Okay.
	AOC and aliens. - AOC and aliens.
	All right.
	And then... Trish, Jenna, or Colonel K?
	Jenna, um... Reinstate Trump.
	Or decertify Biden.
	Or decertify Biden.
	Uh-huh.
	And then, let me ask Trish.
	Yeah.
	And then also, Schlichter Hour.
	Question mark at the end of the Elvis title, right?
	Yes.
	Got it.
	And, uh, how's it going, Rumblers?
	Yep, got it.
	What do you want to say?
	And, uh, how's it going, Rumblers?
	All 2100 of you guys?
	Alright, hang on.
	Oh, we need somebody for the pre-record tomorrow, right?
	Yeah, I think I would say.
	Isn't that, uh... America First, hold please.
	What do you think?
	Well, it's gotta be somebody who's available easily.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	Um... A regular?
	Doesn't matter.
	Well, how about an alum?
	Bakari?
	Yeah, or one of the hosts, a Salem.
	Oh, we can't do a host in a day.
	They're too tough.
	Let me run through the list.
	Yeah, grab the list.
	What is this thing she does with her hand?
	I've never seen anybody do this.
	Is that an Italian gesture?
	No, with the back of your hand.
	With one hand.
	So creepy.
	Drunk Italian gesture?
	one minute hey is yesterday's video cut five The Cuban outside the White House, is that strong?
	Yeah.
	Very.
	Yeah, I basically got the whole thing, because the whole thing was good.
	Alright, I'm going to use it now before I go to calls.
	Okay.
	So Cup 5.
	You want to come in with it?
	No.
	Okay.
	Um, what about... Conrad would probably do it.
	I don't want to do it, it'd give him such short notice.
	Alright.
	Okay, 30 seconds.
	We have to record a podcast ad sometime today.
	Yes.
	Okay, Trish is?
	Yes.
	Ready for another COVID shutdown, question mark.
	And COVID in caps.
	Yes.
	And shut down.
	S should be capitalized.
	Shut down.
	God.
	Okay.
	Kill the mics.
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	Okay, there are people in America who understand what's going on and usually It's because they've escaped communist regimes, or their family knows what socialism really is.
	One individual who was outside the White House protesting this administration, well, he labeled it quite clearly, and you need to see it.
	This is video cut five, play cuts.
	Human people don't have any rights.
	We don't have freedom of speech.
	It's been like this for 61 years, okay, or more.
	The children don't have any food.
	They don't have medicine.
	The people are being pulled out of their houses right now and they are being killed because on July 11th, they went out to the streets to protest because they are tired of living in misery.
	They are tired of not being able to speak and say what they want to say.
	They have no food.
	They have nothing.
	They need our help.
	They need President Biden to step up.
	Is there anything that you want to have accomplished?
	We don't want no money.
	We don't want COVID shots.
	We need help.
	Is there anything that you want to have accomplished?
	If Biden could do one thing, what would you want?
	I want them to help us get freedom.
	Because when Biden needed a lot of our Cuban votes, because I'm from Florida, and when him and Kamala came to Florida, that he wanted our help, I was one of the ones, just like millions of Cubans, voted for him.
	And he hasn't done anything for us.
	Nothing.
	He needs to step up because he has helped a lot of other countries, okay?
	Why not Cuba?
	Is he a communist too?
	That is my question to you, Biden.
	I voted for you.
	You haven't done nothing for my people.
	Wow, that's from Breitbart.
	That's Lilly outside the White House.
	Powerful.
	That's probably the worst case of buyer's remorse I've ever seen.
	If you voted for Biden now, you realize he's a communist.
	Yes, indeed.
	And by the way, beautiful story.
	Shocked me.
	Truly shocked me.
	My son went out to D.C.
	for dinner at the weekend and he came back and said, Dad, You won't believe it.
	I saw car after car honking and flying the American flag and the Cuban flag in DC, a city that voted for Hillary 93% six years ago.
	Wow.
	Buyer's remorse indeed.
	Let's go to your calls.
	The call board is absolutely full.
	Let's go to John in San Diego.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	Yeah, Trish is right.
	This is Carter number two.
	It's also Weimar Republic number two and Venezuela number two.
	The only source of inflation ever is government.
	Yes.
	Private sector government, private sector business, capitalism and the competition that it fosters prevents all inflation.
	You can't have inflation with competition.
	It doesn't happen.
	They do this every time, and it's always because government will either pay people not to work, or they will force business to pay people more than what they produce, or they force regulations that cost business money.
	And you get all these people, all these Democrats, saying business won't pay a living wage.
	Well, it is a living wage if it wasn't for the parasitic government taking everything from it.
	Yes, and here's the good news, John.
	Remember what happened to America because of Carter?
	Yeah, but I don't want to wait another three years.
	Yeah, but at least we've got elections next year and we're going to ask Jenna Ellis, if we get the House and we get the Senate, guess what we're allowed to do, John?
	Impeachment.
	Bingo!
	What goes around comes around.
	What's sauce for the goose is a delicious sauce for the gander.
	Thank you, John.
	More of your course here on America First.
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	Welcome back.
	Mask mandates, you heard Trish.
	A potential new lockdown this fall.
	What is it gonna do?
	To small and medium-sized businesses across this country which are the backbone of America now more than ever.
	It's time to fight.
	That's why I support the Job Creators Network and they're looking for some small business advocates.
	People they'll train up.
	They want to hear from you.
	They want to hear your stories and your struggles.
	If you're a small business owner, if you work for a small business, they want to hear from you.
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	My gosh, the call board is absolutely full!
	Wow, I am impressed.
	Let's go to Mary Anne in New Jersey.
	Mary Anne, welcome to America First.
	Hi, Dr. Gorka.
	I love you so much.
	I listen to you every day.
	I love your spirit and your passion.
	Thank you.
	And thank you so much for putting out all that energy.
	I'm sure that it takes a lot out of you.
	No, I love it.
	I love it.
	I don't tell my bosses I would pay to do this job.
	Did I say that?
	No, I did.
	I deny that vehemently, but I do.
	I would.
	But I have to disagree with you.
	What?
	See, that wicked lady just walked me down the primrose path.
	She inveigled me.
	She trapped me.
	She seduced me.
	Go ahead, Marianne.
	Why do you disagree with me as you flatter me mercilessly?
	See, I'm a hospice nurse, and I get to see people at end of life.
	God bless you for what you do.
	Thank you, and he does.
	What bothers me is DeSantis in Florida saw this easily when he saw that the health care workers that were going in to the elderly were the carriers.
	They were the super spreaders.
	So he armed them with proper protective equipment and PPE, which was really smart.
	The thing that's doing with this vaccine is that we are not mandating health care workers to get it.
	So therefore, the black and Latino groups have the lowest percentage of being vaccinated.
	They are the highest percentage of health care workers in these facilities.
	What they're doing is not intentionally, but they're bringing this back into the facility.
	We already see facilities locking down.
	They're going to keep it quiet, but I read my emails... So what are you saying?
	That you think you agree with mandatory vaccines if you work in the healthcare sector?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, so here's my question for you, and I understand, I mean, you're making a very specific claim for a very specific portion of the population.
	Have you read up on the stats for the side effects of the vaccines for women?
	Specifically for women?
	Specifically, the hemorrhaging, the clothing and the hemorrhaging issues.
	Right, right, I have.
	Okay, do you not have an issue with that?
	The thing is that we can't trust the numbers.
	See, everything is based in medicine on a risk-benefit ratio.
	Correct.
	Okay.
	I don't sound this old, but I am.
	I'm 78 years old.
	No, no, no, that's a lie.
	I am.
	That's a lie.
	God, it's the truth, I'm afraid.
	My risk-benefit ratio was I ran to get that vaccine, honey.
	I mean... I get it, I get it.
	But say you're a woman who's never had children but wants to get children.
	Say you're a health worker who's a month pregnant.
	Say you're a health worker who has clotting issues in the family history.
	Or say you're like me, Marianne, and you've had the Covid.
	You're absolutely fine now and your body is full of T-cells.
	Should you be mandated?
	No.
	That's what we need to be able to do.
	We need to be able to have a truthful, and that's what I think we're lacking.
	Not only truth.
	But Marianne, in today's America, the man who bears the title of president says on live television in an address, and we didn't even have the vaccine until I became president.
	No, Joe, you were jabbed back in December thanks to what Donald Trump and the health sector did.
	How can you build trust when the man who's in the White House is lying about the vaccines?
	He changes what he says every day.
	Yes!
	And that's exactly what... Now, when I talk to these people, because I did infection control, so it was my job to try to get them to be healthier as employees.
	When I talk to them and say, why aren't you getting the vaccine?
	There isn't specific health issues.
	That would be too well-educated.
	So what is it?
	What is it?
	It's just like they think... I don't want that.
	I don't trust.
	I don't trust that vaccine.
	I don't believe what they're saying.
	It's just a basic lack of trust that you can't believe anyone anymore.
	And you see, this cynicism, this lack of trust, is what's going to destroy Our country.
	With no trust, you can't function.
	And I think that this is just a first, from a philosophical point of view, I think this is the first symptom that we're going to see of the breakdown of our society, of our culture.
	Explain that.
	What do you mean, the first symptom?
	What does that look like?
	Cynicism.
	Not being able to trust.
	What is the truth?
	What is the truth?
	That's what they ask.
	That's what they're asking, but they don't know how to get the truth.
	All right.
	This is a longer discussion.
	It's a fabulous discussion.
	However, I am running a live radio show, so will you do me a favor?
	I'd like to continue it a little bit in the break.
	I'll stay on the line.
	We also want to give you a signed copy.
	We don't bribe people.
	We just say, Thank you.
	So you're very kind.
	So we'll give you a signed copy of The War for America.
	So stay on the line.
	I want to thank you for what you've done.
	I still don't believe you.
	I think you're maybe 48, not 78.
	I think you're dyslexic in math.
	But we will continue the discussion offline with you in the break.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	Everybody else, Victor, Clint, Dean and Brent, Wow, what a great day for calls, and it's still the first hour.
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	Hey, can you give me Marianne?
	Okay.
	Line five.
	So what does this all lead to?
	What does that lack of trust lead to?
	Well, it's going to lead, remember Jesus said, I know that you're a believer, Jesus said the battle is for truth.
	Yes.
	Armageddon is the battle for truth.
	And that's what we're in right now.
	There's so much, we are looking, they tell us something that is unreal.
	We know in reality the Democrats, that it does not exist.
	It's like somebody called Dennis Prager today and said the Democrats never say defund the police.
	Well, Dennis nearly had a stroke on the, because that was such an absolute.
	Well, look, the devil is the great deceptor.
	That's right.
	And you see, this is how people, intelligent people are falling for this, this fantasy that they're weaving.
	It's terrifying.
	My husband and I, we really are conservatives, and we watch, we educate, we watch, We're so worried about our children and our grandchildren.
	Don't be.
	Don't be.
	America is robust.
	We will overcome.
	Their edifice of lies will collapse because it always does.
	And as you know, as a believer yourself, it's okay, my dear, because we have already won.
	God bless you for what you do.
	Stay on the line.
	Mr. G is going to get your address and we'll send you a book.
	Will you do that?
	He did already.
	He did?
	Oh, good.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	I love the Hungarian people.
	All right.
	Gotta run.
	God bless you.
	Thank you.
	you bye-bye all right we've got to get through these calls Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick.
	Clint, West Virginia, line two.
	Oh, hey, Dr. G. How are you doing?
	Good.
	Good, good.
	Dude, I said quick.
	What's your point?
	What's your question?
	Oh, we lost him.
	Let's go to Victor, line one.
	I was talking to one of my truckin' buddies, Chevy guy, who lives in a red state, and he told me as far as he is concerned, Biden has declared biological war on the red states because of the illegal aliens coming across the southern border, being put in planes and sent to red states.
	It's hard to deny, Victor.
	It's hard to deny.
	And look, truck drivers are some of the most commonsensical people in the world.
	Yes, and my handle on the trucking show is Blindman.
	Of course it is.
	We love you, Victor.
	We've got to fight them because they want to take down the Republican states first.
	God bless you.
	Let's get another call in.
	Dean, New Jersey, line four.
	Dean, you're on national radio.
	Dean, you blew it.
	Brent, Los Angeles!
	Gatlin Gun Gorka.
	Oh, yes, we like that.
	Manual, fully order.
	We love it.
	Just crank that handle.
	Yeah, well, I wanted to sympathize with Autocratia Cortez's fear of being gang raped.
	Just like CBS reporter Laura Logan during Egypt's Moslem Spring.
	Oh, my gosh.
	Or all of the Christian and unburkered women in the Middle East and North Africa.
	Or the Chinese Uyghur women.
	Or the women of Germany.
	See, this is serious.
	You made me laugh, and then you brought it.
	You brought your A-game.
	What she did there, with that absurd accusation, is she undermined the true horrific experience of people like Lara Logan, who have actually been raped.
	and are being raped.
	What I'm thinking about is all those women all throughout the world she's absolutely ignoring and have no regard for.
	I'm thinking of Germany and France and England and Sweden, the gang rapes from the migrating Islamo-Nazi jihadis, and the screams of the Mexican cartel child sex slaves that she totally ignores.
	Yeah, this is really...
	Look, she's stupid.
	She's a radical.
	But this is the deeper issue, that with her posturing, with her socialist ideals, she really is...
	Just on Cuba alone.
	Her incapacity as a socialist to talk about the horror that is a communist state for 62 years, the fact that everybody who waves our flag could end up in prison for simply owning an American flag, but instead she uses it to attack the nation that these people aspire to in terms of their individual freedom and liberty.
	God bless you, Brent.
	AOC...
	There's more than ample evidence in the history of mankind.
	Stupid people can also be very, very dangerous.
	Thank you, Brent.
	Thank you, all of our callers.
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	Thank you.
	Hello, Jen.
	Can you hear us?
	I can hear you.
	Hi.
	Doing good.
	Sounding great.
	Are we doing Skype as well?
	Are you going to call us?
	You're going to be sad today, but I'm in the closet studio, so we are not going to be doing Skype today.
	I'm sorry.
	No Skype.
	OK.
	That's fine.
	That's fine.
	You know what happened?
	What in the rain stopped us?
	Jeff asked me if I could do 1 o'clock.
	And I'm like, yeah.
	And I forgot to tell them here.
	And they booked something in the other studio.
	But for next week we shall remedy, no it's just that we moved up the hit for an hour and so we're gonna do it at one o'clock now my time and I just didn't tell anybody I said yes to Jeff and I forgot to tell everybody here so whoopsie.
	So what's going on there?
	We've got a recall here.
	by the way, as I'm sure you're aware.
	- That's all right.
	- Yeah, so let me go ahead and-- - So what's going on there?
	We've got a recall here.
	- Yeah, well, I mean, you know-- - I went to a big rally on Friday.
	- We do have an election here in Virginia this year as well, 'cause Virginia is all those weird states with the off-year elections.
	With the off one, right?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Is McAuliffe gonna win?
	Right.
	Probably, but it seems I was talking to a buddy of mine who thinks that the Republican nominee this time is kind of a moderate, you know, not great, not ideal.
	But he could pull in a lot of those like moderate pearl clutching voters who voted against Trump, but may turn right for him.
	So who knows?
	Who knows?
	I heard Elder is not going to participate in that debate that is going to happen with the Nixon library.
	I'm going to be there, actually.
	I'm covering it.
	We're going to do a thing.
	I don't think, you know, and I will tell him this.
	I think.
	Hey, can I join the Eric and Jen show?
	Sure.
	She won't be on Skype today.
	I can't be on Skype today.
	I'm in the closet today.
	Yeah, I forgot because we moved up the hit and I forgot to say something here.
	I just told Jeff, yeah, no problem.
	And they booked something in the studio at one.
	When are you off air every day?
	At nine o'clock, but then I do Jen and Don.
	So I'm usually at the station until around 11 o'clock my time.
	Until 11, which is three.
	Two, two hours.
	You should do it on a Thursday because Newsmax are going to get here later anyway.
	You know what I mean?
	Oh, that's right.
	That's right.
	We're doing these new hour long podcast called one on one on video.
	And I'd like to have a one on one hour long discussion with our warrior princess.
	I would love it.
	Yeah, let me know.
	And I can do it from CRN or from Salem.
	So it's gotta be Skypeage.
	60 seconds.
	Skypeage CRN works great.
	That's where I usually am.
	Okay, good.
	All right.
	Standby.
	Yeah.
	So either one would work.
	Okay, good.
	We'll talk Larry, we'll talk Buck, we'll talk Newsom's worried.
	All good stuff.
	Yeah, it's great.
	All the good stuff.
	Yeah, all the good stuff.
	I had my doggies in my studio yesterday.
	I loved your picture.
	They were so cute.
	Go back and listen.
	I railed.
	Yes, my mono was one of these angry monos.
	But if you listen to it again with your headphones on, and you can hear them crunching the bones under my desk.
	It's hilarious.
	OK.
	I'm getting really agitated.
	So you're ranting and throwing bones under the desk.
	Yeah, it's hilarious.
	Oh my gosh, I'm going back to listen.
	It's so funny.
	That's so funny.
	15 seconds, killing the mics.
	Standing by.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka. - Perfect timing!
	It's the Ladies' Hour, starting with our warrior princess, Jennifer Horner, to be continued by Jenna Ellis, attorney to President Trump, formerly now head of the National Election Integrity Alliance, and then, oh my dear, stay on this channel, the last hour of America First,
	We'll be with my colleague, the sage, the man who is challenging Nancy Pelosi's nephew for the governorship of California.
	Yes, Larry Elder with me.
	Don't miss a second of any of it, but let's get an update first from somebody who's following it so closely who I think should be part of the Larry Elder administration.
	Her name is Jen... Don't laugh!
	I'm serious!
	Host of The Morning Answer, The Jen & Don Show, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, also CRNtalk.com, Jennifer Horne.
	Things are looking rather good, aren't they?
	Yeah, things are looking great here in California.
	And the reason I giggled is because for months, I've been talking with Larry, saying, come on, Larry, you got to run.
	Like everybody in California has been.
	On our local show, The Morning Answer in Los Angeles, I've been saying, Larry, you got to do it when he comes on with us, usually every Friday.
	And he's like, you know what, Jen?
	I'll tell you what.
	I'll be your lieutenant governor.
	You run for governor.
	Either way, but that could be awesome.
	Would you like, see for me, you are the perfect front person, the perfect communications honcho, but would you like to have like a badge as well?
	Would you like to be the lieutenant governor?
	Well, the lieutenant governor in California is great because what he does, or what he or she does every day is wakes up, checks the newspaper, makes sure the governor is still alive, and then goes back to bed.
	So it's a great position.
	You get a coffee, put your feet up, scratch the dog.
	Take a nap.
	Exactly.
	Gavin Newsom did it.
	I mean, an excellent lieutenant governor.
	He did nothing for eight years before he became governor in California.
	Can I ask you a question that came to me when I was thinking about doing this interview with Larry?
	Look, I'm not a Californian.
	You are a Californian.
	How on earth?
	Because this guy's been mayor, he's been lieutenant governor, now he's the most powerful man in California.
	And he's awful.
	And he's just a bloody wig.
	He's just like this.
	He's like this pompadour.
	He's a nothing.
	He's an oxygen thief.
	Is it just the grin and the hair?
	How did he get so far?
	You know, I have a couple of answers.
	First of all, he's very ingrained in the swamp.
	I mean, we don't call him Nancy Pelosi's nephew by mistake.
	I mean, this guy was made to be a politician in California.
	And so was Kamala Harris, by the way.
	They were on the same trajectory.
	They were friends.
	In fact, many sources that I talked to say That if Joe were not to make it through his first term and Kamala were to take the presidency, that she was going to, up until this point, slip in Gavin Newsom as the vice president.
	I mean, this is how close those two were.
	And they were on this very powerful path, very much transactional figures, right?
	They will do whatever it takes to get themselves elected.
	They'll make deals.
	They can reward people that support them because we have a No big contract situation in California.
	So anybody that that helps out these guys ended up getting rich and rewarded.
	And it was, you know, it was a powerful thing.
	So that's number one.
	He was just very ingrained in in the ropes of politics and had a lot of big money backers behind him because he would reward them.
	Right.
	So that's number one.
	Number two, if you meet Gavin Newsom in person, and you know my dad, Seb, and for those of you who don't, he's the voice of the Larry Elder Show.
	If you listen to the Larry Elder Show, he does the voice.
	You're not going to give us like a Bill Cosby story you did last time with Gavin Newsom, no?
	He did not lay in my lap.
	But my dad, it's very funny, my dad was at an event in Napa Valley years ago and met Gavin Newsom.
	And for years my dad would say that Gavin Newsom was his favorite Democrat because Newsom met him for about a half a second but took his card and wrote him a letter saying how great it was to meet him and if he needed anything to stay in touch.
	So he's a kind of, he's a Clinton-esque smoocher.
	That's it.
	He works the room.
	That's it.
	He's charismatic.
	And so he has the charm and he knows how to keep people, you know, so they feel important.
	And I think people reward that kind of behavior.
	But he's done.
	What does your dad think about him now?
	Totally switched.
	As soon as he became governor.
	When you are starting to miss the days of Governor Moonbeam, Jerry Brown, when Jerry Brown looks sane to you, and he does by the way, Jerry Brown now looks sane because Gavin Newsom is probably paying off all of these deals, right?
	Completely inept as governor.
	The state is, it's really hard to live here.
	It's expensive and it would be worth it if you were getting back what you put into it.
	But we're getting people living on the streets.
	We're getting businesses that were shut down for over a year and a half.
	Kids taken out of school.
	People told they couldn't go to church.
	I mean, it's ridiculous while the governor lives by his own set of rules.
	And there is real momentum to recall Gavin Newsom.
	And he said this week, he said a lot of crazy things this week.
	But he said that this is all right-wing talking points.
	This is why he has to face, and I'm using a quote here because I wouldn't use this language on the radio, but he says, this is why I have to deal with the damn recall because of all the right-wing talking points and all of the conservatives that have been talking against him.
	Did he say because of that damn Jennifer Horne?
	Is that what he said?
	I would love it, right?
	Because I hope so.
	I hope I have that influence.
	But that's not it at all.
	And he is so underestimating the power of this recall.
	This isn't a Republican recall.
	Yes, Republicans are involved.
	They've signed the petition.
	They're working the movement.
	But it is involving Democrats.
	It's involving independents.
	He's misreading it.
	If this were a Republican instigated recall, it wouldn't have gotten any traction, Jennifer, in California.
	No, because there aren't enough Republicans to overtake the Democrats.
	But Democrats have been disenfranchised with him, mostly because he's living by his own set of rules.
	It happened again.
	He pulled his kids out of summer camp.
	They were going to basketball camp because they were caught in a picture on social media at basketball camp without masks on.
	Now, he said he and his wife just weren't communicated to about this, but I would say that the parents in California are just asking Gavin Newsom for what he did two days ago pulling his kid out of camp.
	They want the choice to decide whether their kids will be masked or not.
	The governor took that choice for his kids.
	Let California parents make that choice too.
	So, my question is, when he pulled them out of the baseball camp, did he take them to the French Laundry?
	Yeah, of course, for a $15,000 dinner with wine.
	But this polling that's out right now... So tell us, where is Larry?
	So Larry's right at the top.
	But what's even more important, because it's all about question number one, do you want to recall Gavin Newsom?
	It's a two-question ballot.
	First one, do you want to recall him?
	And there is such a tightening in the polls.
	I honestly didn't even expect this.
	But the LA Times and Berkeley got together.
	They did a poll that found 47% of California voters supported recalling Gavin Newsom, 50% oppose it.
	But it's a three-point margin of error.
	Wow.
	This is neck and neck right now.
	It's split down the middle and you know these pollsters always oversample Democrats in the state.
	So I am very encouraged and I think a lot of it had to do with the Secretary of State trying to keep Larry Elder off the ballot.
	And we were on the air last week together at this very time when a judge ruled in favor of Larry Elder.
	He couldn't have purchased Better publicity.
	So Larry Elder, according to this survey, this same survey, is ahead of all of the other candidates and he's got a pretty good commanding lead, actually.
	He's got 16% of the vote, according to this new poll, and then he's followed by John Cox and Kevin Faulkner, who are tied at 6%.
	This is the weird thing, and I love it.
	I mean, it's poetic justice for the Democrats that you have this system where it's one ballot that has the recall question and then all the candidates on the ballot.
	So with a 16% margin, or not margin, but leading with 20 other candidates, Larry could win easily.
	Absolutely.
	All you need is really, I keep going back to about 18 to 20% of the vote.
	I think that's where it's really going to play out.
	And then get this.
	So in a normal election, it is very hard for a Republican to win statewide office in California.
	We haven't, in fact, since Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor.
	So what you're going to be doing, and this is really important, and this is why it matters to get someone really good in there, like a Larry Elder, who's going to be really good at articulating things, maybe like a Kevin Kiley, who's an assemblyman who knows how things work.
	My vote is obviously with Larry Elder, but there's going to be about 12, well, about a 14 week period where a Republican in that position is going to be able to make a strong case that this is what Republicans can do for California.
	It's like taking a test drive.
	You're going to be able to communicate to California voters that this is what Republicans can do because someone is going to have to win re-election next year.
	And so this is the opportunity for Republicans in the state.
	It's a huge, there is a lot on the line here.
	But people are fired up.
	I did a big event on Friday night.
	I heard.
	450 people.
	It was it's incredibly I don't know.
	It makes you feel good that people are just tired.
	It's not about Democrat, Republican anymore.
	It's about just doing what's right to shake things up in the state that has become bogged down and swampy.
	And as you've said so many times before on this show, what happens in California happens elsewhere is the bell where the.
	So guess what, guys?
	If you make it happen, if you go to electelder.com, if he wins, where else could we turn the ship around?
	Support Larry Elder.
	Follow this lady, Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer and The Jen & Don Show, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, at Jennifer Horne.
	So much more to discuss wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
	Stay on this channel. Stay on this channel.
	So that was at the Nixon Library, right?
	Well, OK, so two things.
	So it's been a busy week.
	Friday, we were in an airplane hangar at Chino Airport, hangar number four, with Michael Avenatti's jet in the background.
	Are you joking?
	With the DOJ sticker on it.
	Hang on.
	Can you reconnect?
	Because we keep losing her.
	Let's reconnect on the Comrex.
	You guys will do it on your end?
	Yeah.
	Right?
	Right, Jeff?
	OK, good.
	Normally, I think they connect to us.
	Let me try.
	Can you disconnect and then reconnect?
	Yes.
	I'm here.
	Can you hear me?
	We got you now.
	Test, test, test.
	One, two.
	One, two.
	You're good.
	So, yeah, that Avenatti plane was in the background with the DOJ sticker on it because it's in their custody.
	Yeah, so that was the event that Don put together, and that was the Recall Rally.
	And then on Monday, they called me from the Nixon Library because Jesse Waters has a new book out, and they thought he was just going to speak, but he wanted to do a Q&A, so they called me to ask if I'd host it.
	And yeah, so that was a lot of fun, too.
	That was 700 people.
	They were at capacity.
	What's the Nixon Library like?
	Oh my god, you haven't been?
	No.
	I gotta take you next time you go to California.
	They have a replica of the East Room that is gorgeous.
	They have Nixon's birthplace, which was a house that was ordered from a Sears catalog, and that's where Nixon was born.
	And it's right there.
	Where is it?
	Yorba Linda.
	It's a city called Yorba Linda.
	It's officially Orange County, but it's not too far out of L.A.
	County.
	It's a gorgeous library.
	Who's organizing the event in September?
	Um, her name is Darla.
	But who is it?
	Is it KRLA?
	Is it Salem?
	It's KRLA, yeah.
	It's an 870 event.
	But if you come with enough time, let's go.
	I can take you.
	It's in Orange County.
	So how far?
	How long is the drive?
	We could do it in a couple hours.
	I mean, well, it's only from where we're going to be in Garden Grove.
	It's only about 20 minutes, probably.
	Oh, wow.
	OK.
	Yeah, so you'll be here.
	So we should go.
	And I'll tell them they'll get it.
	They would love it.
	Why are we having such a crappy connection on Comrex?
	I hear it, too.
	It's really strange.
	Yeah, there's dropped packets from the internet signal.
	What is the status of our internet here now, Jeff?
	Uh, well, I got 10 seconds, so next break.
	No, you've got a minute.
	Oh, I've got a minute.
	I'm sorry.
	So we're on two different Comcast internets for the Comrex.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Come here.
	Cut six.
	Alright, fifteen, I'm gonna kill the mics.
	Got it.
	So I'm here to say to the squad and especially AOC who, you know, did make a lot of promises that we still have faith in you and we would like to see if you have a better plan than we've been able to see. did make a lot of promises that we still have Please share it.
	If there's a pathway that you've got that we're not aware of, please share it because we're losing hope here that you represent us.
	I thought Susan Sarandon was an actress.
	If that's supposed to be a protest with a bullhorn outside AOC's office, kinda low energy, isn't it Jennifer?
	That is the lamest thing.
	Usually the bullhorn is supposed to be so you can shout at people.
	It's not like you get a bullhorn and go, Hi, AOC, could you do better, please?
	I'm not really happy.
	If you've got a plan, we'd love to see it.
	Please.
	You're protesting all wrong, Susan.
	Project, as they say in the theater.
	Try harder.
	Project!
	To the back!
	To the back!
	This just shows you how crazy this woman is.
	If she thinks that AOC isn't doing enough, I mean, please!
	Put a cork in it, AOC!
	We played it earlier.
	AOC's latest claim that not only were they going to kill her, but they were going to rape her on January the 6th.
	And after that, the tear-filled, the tear-filled unrehearsed testimonies yesterday.
	It's really reprehensible, isn't it, Jennifer?
	You know what?
	Adam Schiff and Adam Kinzinger, the Adam Squared on that committee, they're better actors than Susan Sarandon is at this point.
	But to have cops in uniform... Bernie Kerrig, I spoke to Bernie Kerrig today, he said, I've been stabbed and shot at.
	I never cried when I testified in front of any political organ.
	Well, this is just such a joke.
	It is so political.
	And look, I want to say this because I think it's really important for conservatives to say this.
	The people who breached the Capitol, that first wave of people, those people should be held accountable.
	That's just it.
	They should be held accountable.
	The police, and I will give them the benefit of the doubt, the Capitol Police did not know who they were dealing with, as most police officers don't.
	They don't know if people are coming at them with guns or knives or whatever it might be.
	They didn't know until after that there wasn't one single firearm used in the so-called coup or insurrection on January 6th.
	It was the most pathetic attempt at a coup without any firearms.
	If you ask me if that's really what they were going for.
	That being said, the people that were asked to testify have a long history of making controversial statements online.
	One of the people who was testifying and crying and talking about all the racial slurs that were going on was someone who defended the people who were protesting and doing the exact same thing, by the way, destroying federal property when they were burning down courthouses and police stations, right?
	We really have to stand up for an equal system of justice here.
	And this panel, it ain't it.
	It's completely insulting that you have people who say, including Adam Kinzinger, who say they see no correlation between the protests of the summer and the protests happening at the Capitol.
	Let me give you the actual, you know, concrete information here.
	The Capitol officer you're talking about, he's a police officer now testifying in uniform.
	His name is Harry Dunn.
	Harry Dunn is an ardent supporter of BLM and supported their burning of Kenosha.
	He quoted in a tweet That that is the appropriate response.
	Burning down Kenosha.
	A police officer is saying arson is good.
	But see, he can be used to, because no one is going to read that, right?
	Everybody's going to just ignore it.
	The mainstream media isn't going to tell you that.
	What they're going to show you is a cop, who is a black cop, who is going to be saying that people were saying racist things to him and that he was scared for his life.
	They're not talking about what they said and all the racial slurs that were thrown at police officers on the streets during the summer of last year.
	They're not going to talk about that.
	And this whole panel, without any help from real Republicans who represent the heart and soul of the party, All it's doing is set up to silence you.
	It's there to silence Republican voters.
	This has nothing to do with getting to the truth.
	There were already way too many investigations into January 6th.
	I know people in California who had their homes tossed.
	They weren't even at the Capitol.
	They were at the Trump rally, and they had the FBI at their door, and they took out things like Trump posters and stickers as evidence.
	Does that sound right?
	Does that sound right to anybody to have your life destroyed by the FBI and have them take out a Trump 2020 sticker?
	It sounds like police state tactics.
	And I've decided I'm going to dedicate the whole hour of my show this weekend on Newsmax to this whole defund the police insanity.
	So it's the goal.
	Until they decide to refund the police because it doesn't work.
	Right.
	It's 7pm Newsmax this Sunday.
	It's the Gawker Reality Check.
	We're going to have Mayor Giuliani and others.
	You've got to watch it.
	OK, let's talk about, let's continue to discuss what happened yesterday in Congress.
	That small individual called Ted Lieu tweeted out that he's so excited and proud to be presiding over the proceedings yesterday.
	And I just responded in my tweet, how come he's not testifying at the Ed Buck trial?
	Love you.
	Seriously, I mean... It's a great question!
	So what's the latest on this murderous homosexual Democrat donor?
	I don't know what Ted Lieu and Adam Schiff are going to do, Seb, because Ed Buck, who was a big funder of their campaigns, he is a prominent liberal activist and donor, who we've talked about on this program, he killed two black men in his home after overdosing them on methamphetamine.
	Yep.
	And he almost killed 30.
	Had the guy not had just a shot of adrenaline and ran out of an apartment.
	Because he was injected with not only meth but he was injected with the date rape drug and when Ed Buck tried to get him to leave the guy who had been immobilized for six hours couldn't move.
	So Ed Buck got a power saw and started to chase him and stood over him with that power saw and finally the man I guess his adrenaline kicked in and he was able to escape and call the police.
	This ultimately It was really quick.
	which was avoided, by the way, in L.A. County because of all of the donations that Ed Buck had made.
	He had a lot of political protection.
	Well, turns out he didn't have any protection with the jury because a federal jury convicted him on two counts of meth distribution, resulting in death as well as three other charges.
	And it didn't even take him too long.
	It was a four-hour deliberation after a two-week trial.
	No, but even the trial was super quick.
	It was really fast.
	And he is facing a minimum of 20 years in prison.
	That's if they let the sentences run concurrently.
	He's 66 years old, so it's very possible this is a life sentence.
	The maximum that he could be assigned is a life sentence for these charges.
	So what is Schiff gonna do, and what's Schiff and Ted Lieu gonna do when they need some money from their buddy?
	They're going to have to find, I guess, a different donor or hope that he has some back channels where they can continue to funnel him cash.
	But is their political power going to do anything to help him?
	I mean, these guys have gotten so far away from Ed Buck now because they know he's toast.
	And this is just the tip of the of the swamp in L.A.
	County.
	You know, there's another guy who is facing sexual harassment and not even harassment, but even groping charges and assault charges that works in the inner circle of our mayor, Eric Garcetti.
	And the mayor has said he never knew that this guy who is known to be the honorary mayor, his best friend, has been with him since the very beginning, was involved with doing these sorts of things, including kissing people, men that are surrounding him.
	A LAPD officer came out and said that he was touched inappropriately by this person.
	Reporter Yasser Ali.
	That's enough of that.
	It's part of the swamp.
	Part of the swamp, but at least one man is going to jail.
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	We have in studio, as usual, as we do every week, the host of Just the Truth, She is former attorney to President Trump.
	Follow her, Jenna Ellis ESQ, across social media.
	Jenna Ellis, we gotta talk.
	State of election integrity, the freight train of audits, as my friend Boris calls it.
	But let's do a little bit of culture first.
	It's as if, I don't know, it's as if the Olympics isn't happening.
	It kind of snuck up on me.
	It started, nobody watched it.
	It's got viewing figures that are like 33 years, the lowest they've ever seen.
	And there's a bit of, well, to put it mildly, wokeness isn't there.
	Yes, this is basically the Woke Olympics and a lot of the snowflakes.
	You know, this started with Megan Rapinoe and the women's soccer team kneeling, all of these, you know, BLM gestures, and all of this is just ridiculous.
	The American people are tired of it.
	And then what happened yesterday was Simone Biles, who is, of course, the world-renowned gymnast, decides in her own words to stop midway through.
	the team gymnastics event where they're going for gold.
	She decides to stop halfway through and claims mental health is the reason, but in her own words says, I'm not having fun anymore.
	And so this is for myself.
	And when I'm out here doing this for everyone else, it's just not fun anymore.
	And the thing that makes me so just disgusted by all of this, frankly, is not that people can't have mental health issues or that that doesn't go into maybe a deeper concern that people have voiced that maybe, you know, she was disoriented during a vault.
	There's a legitimate reason for her stepping down.
	It's that the woke leftist culture is applauding her for using mental health as an excuse to be selfish and to abandon her team in the middle of this event.
	Yeah, that's the most egregious thing, that it's not an individual event, it's a team event, and then she's saying, sorry, I'm not having fun.
	Right.
	And that to me, and then people are going, oh, but she's just a child.
	Look at everything.
	I'm sorry.
	She's 24 years old.
	She's a grown woman who, this is her literal job, is to go to the Olympics.
	She's, you know, who knows what she'll do with the money that you get from, you know, my sister-in-law was pointing out that as a silver medalist, which is where the team finished, she still got a silver medal.
	What's she going to do with that money then?
	You know, is she going to donate somewhere to mental health?
	Probably give it to Black Lives Matter, don't you think?
	Yeah, maybe.
	You know, and people are just making tons of excuses that she herself didn't present.
	And this is such an opportunity for us to look and evaluate the culture and say, why do we have these so-called role models who are telling young Americans as athletes, it's okay.
	to prioritize your own selfishness and leave an event in the middle of the most important thing that's going to happen to your team in five years and say, sorry, I have to consider myself.
	That is the epitome of a selfish culture.
	You were born and raised in real America, though you fight in the swamp.
	I have to ask you, how much of this insanity, this selfish millennial wokeness really affects America?
	It has no truck outside of big urban areas, does it?
	Well, I think that a lot of our universities across America are infiltrating the minds of young college students.
	Even some of my former students at Colorado Christian University, other young people that I've interacted with, they have this mentality that, you know, this sort of what I would call the boss babe mentality, that this is all about me and what makes me happy.
	Does it serve my pleasure?
	It's very narcissistic.
	And we've created this coddled sort of culture that says, If it's hard and you don't feel like it, then don't do it.
	That's okay.
	And quote-unquote mental health.
	And it is the antithesis of any concept of service or serving that which is outside of yourself, which is really not just an American trait and how we became the greatest nation on God's earth.
	It is our civilizational trait.
	It is the Judeo-Christian It is the essence of our civilization.
	We're talking to Jenna Ellis, follow her, Jenna Ellis ESQ.
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	Welcome back, dear friends.
	Welcome back.
	We're talking to our regular guest, the champion for the truth, the host of the Just The Truth podcast, contributor to Newsmax.
	You can follow her at Jenna Ellis ESQ.
	She is the chair of the National Election Integrity Alliance.
	We've got to talk elections, we've got to talk audits, but let's first observe the climate, the environment in which we operate.
	Jenna, it seems it's not impossible, but the Difficulty of actually getting information about what's going on and getting the legacy media to say anything that's factual?
	Is this perhaps our largest challenge beyond getting the local authorities to do what's right?
	Is once we have some evidence or once we have some results, it's like a tree falling on an island where nobody's listening.
	Well, and it's even worse than that because just yesterday, Twitter suspended the top six accounts that were the audit accounts.
	So the official Arizona audit, Twitter, and the audit war room that was keeping a tally and disseminating information, it had over 50,000 followers.
	Twitter suddenly suspended all of the accounts.
	Why?
	Because the audits are showing results in Fulton County, Georgia alone.
	There are enough suspect ballots to change the outcome of the election.
	So now that they're finally showing this, what we've been telling people since November of 2020, now all of a sudden Twitter is suspending them.
	So far, Instagram, the account is still up.
	I'm not sure currently the status of Facebook, but this just happened yesterday and it begs the question, why would big tech be censoring these accounts that all they're doing is reporting the findings?
	So you're a very pugnacious lawyer.
	You've taught constitutional law.
	You've represented the President of the United States.
	Is there no legal action that can be taken with regards to this latest decision?
	Well, that's where Trump's big tech lawsuit is really important.
	And I think that, you know, depending on how these audits accounts were suspended, apparently there was no reason given other than they violated the vague, you know, terms and conditions of spamming people was their rationale.
	The problem, though, is that Lawsuits take time.
	And the remedy for this, it's the same thing as when I used to get articles of mine suppressed on Facebook and social media.
	They would come back and say two days later, oh, sorry, it was a glitch.
	Well, then the information is already out there.
	The news cycle is gone.
	They've gotten their goals.
	So this is really frustrating.
	The American people shouldn't stand for it.
	Make sure that you go to networks like this one, you know, to listen to Salem Radio Network, to follow all of us who will get the information out there because we deserve to get to the truth.
	And when big tech is suppressing just information from these audits, that should tell us that we are right over the target.
	So what do our listeners, three million listeners across the nation, plus the video streams and everything else in the podcast, what do people need to know about recent developments in the last month?
	What's happening where, what is it tending toward and what could we expect?
	Yes, so the audits in Arizona and Georgia are continuing on their tracks.
	Already, as I said, in Fulton County, Georgia, there are enough suspect ballots there to overturn the result in Georgia.
	We're close to that in Arizona.
	Pennsylvania is looking at their own audit.
	Our friend Doug Mastrano is heading up that effort.
	And so this is becoming a greater ball rolling to make sure that we get to these audits.
	What's so frustrating, of course, is that Democrats, even Joe Biden, are fighting this every step of the way.
	But we're in the midst of this fight, and we're still going to fight for the truth to come out.
	And then where we go from here is taking those results and having the state legislatures then make a finding.
	That those certifications were not presented to Congress according to state law.
	Where we go from there, what the remedy is?
	Well, people always say, well, you know, we can't have a constitutional crisis, all these rhinos.
	I'm sorry folks, we're already in a constitutional crisis.
	We know that the current sitting President of the United States was constitutionally installed according to the Electoral College votes, but they were based on false certifications.
	Where the remedy goes, that's where constitutional lawyers like myself, others on our Election Integrity Alliance board, others that I'm talking to, we're still investigating that and analyzing, okay, post January 20th, post January 6th, where can we go from here to get not just election integrity, but election justice?
	You use the word false, okay?
	False.
	Constitutionally, the process was followed, but the process was based upon false information.
	Is it false or is it unsafe?
	Which is it's not the same.
	So do we have evidence that it was a false process of installation?
	Or was it unsafe that we don't know the veracity of that electoral college vote?
	Can you unpack that?
	Right.
	So the false was with reference to the actual certifications that were presented.
	Because?
	According to our law, we know for certain the Biden slate is certified.
	That is a representation to Congress.
	That is a false representation because we don't know that.
	And we also know for sure that this was so irredeemably compromised.
	There is no way that the secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger from Georgia, for example, could go in front of Congress today and say, yes, I certify and I declare under oath that this was done according to the law.
	But let's unpack that.
	It's false because of what?
	Because in a given state like Virginia, the governor unilaterally against the Constitution changed the way the election was run?
	Or was it because the results were tallied in ways that weren't certain in their results?
	What is the strength of the word false in that statement?
	That the results were irredeemably corrupted and that there are enough ballots that were falsely counted for Biden that either were not proper ballots, they were counted multiple times.
	There are a bunch of different ways, chain of custody issues.
	Multiple different ways.
	So this isn't just one way.
	This is thousands and thousands of ballots that were not processed according to the law.
	And what we said from the very beginning, every legal vote should count and count fairly and accurately.
	So if you have one ballot that is a legal vote, but you scan it six times, those other five times then are not legal votes.
	Or what are the other thing, the immaculate ballots, the mailed-in ballots that have never been folded ever?
	So how magically were mailed without being folded?
	Exactly.
	So when we say these are falsely certified, it's saying the ballot tallies themselves were done according to state law and every ballot was legal that was counted for Biden.
	That is what's false.
	All right, so we've got to unpack what happens next, what the various scenarios are.
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	We could do this for hours.
	She knows so much.
	She's such a fighter.
	We're talking about the last elections, what the options are now, the freight train of audits, as my friend Boris calls it, is trundling down the tracks.
	So, Jenna, you're the expert.
	You're the chair of the National Election Integrity Alliance.
	Support their work.
	You've got to follow her at Jenna Ellis ESQ.
	If we find in multiple states, those battleground states where the voting magically stopped when the president was winning and then was reversed a few hours later.
	If we find that there's enough evidence, concrete evidence, that he would have won in those states, what happens now?
	This phrase of reinstatement or whatever is not going to work.
	Now they're floating a concept.
	Some people are decertifying those elections.
	It really is uncharted territory.
	What are the various scenarios or what are the kinds of scenarios we should be thinking about?
	Well, we should be thinking of what the Constitution provides for, which is impeachment.
	Of course, on the basis that he was falsely installed, we didn't actually elect him.
	But that would have to be his crime, wouldn't it?
	You can impeach a president for crimes he committed, but if it's his party and somebody who he had nothing to do with...
	That is a very interesting question.
	The Supreme Court has never actually determined that phrase of what actually constitutes high crimes or misdemeanors, those types of things.
	And so impeachment on the basis that you're not actually the elected president, probably there does have to be a nexus to that.
	But, you know, look, we've had other impeachments based on far less.
	Because this is the thing with impeachment for me, and tell me if I'm crazy.
	Impeachment for me is not a judicial process.
	It's political.
	It is.
	It's not meant to be, but it is.
	It's not a court of law.
	It's a Senate pretending to be a court of law.
	It's quasi-judicial in nature.
	But that is one possible remedy.
	And certainly if the House had the guts to follow the Constitution and have a remedy to that.
	If we won the House, if we won the Senate, we could impeach him if we had the evidence.
	Correct.
	What other possibilities are out there?
	And so the legislatures of each state absolutely do need to make a declaration and a resolution decertifying because that would then put the threshold of those votes and put the onus on Congress to look and say, okay, is the Electoral Count Act proper in the manner and method in which this was done on January 6th?
	And if we have a false misrepresentation to Congress, then what happens?
	And we don't know the answer to that question.
	So that is the next step is that decertification.
	And then can Congress, for example, call for a new election on that basis?
	I think that there is that possibility under Article 2, Section 1.5.
	I think we are in uncharted territories in a lot of different ways because the American people, of course, can also demand that Biden and Harris resign based on this.
	I mean, that would be the easiest solution.
	But then Nancy becomes president, right?
	Well, if we take the House back in 2022.
	And by the way, let's get somebody better than Kevin McCarthy as Speaker.
	But what Congress has the ability to do, though, if they set aside the Presidential Succession Act, Because that, under Article 2, Section 1.6, talks about how Congress can provide for a case.
	Yes, so Congress has the right to say no, the succession doesn't follow in this case.
	And they can override it, potentially.
	So already we've got decertification, reinstatement, or Congress has to do something else.
	She's Janet Ellis, follow her.
	Next, Larry Elder.
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	dear friends, to this special edition.
	It's called America First One-on-One, and today we are delighted to have with us, he is a colleague, a mentor, and to millions across California and America, he is a dear, dear friend.
	They call him the sage.
	He is, God willing, the future governor of California, Larry Elder.
	Welcome to America First.
	You know, Sam, if I had a voice like yours, I probably could have made a career in radio.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	I appreciate it.
	As it is, all you do is cram six hours of radio into three hours and you're the only guy.
	Ben Shapiro tries, but he can't do it.
	You, the sage, can do it.
	Okay.
	I make up for my lack of resonance with my voice with speed.
	Trade-off.
	All right.
	First things first, this is the anti-fake news, okay?
	This is Salem.
	We deliver the truth and not spurious allegations and conspiracy theories like the lying mainstream legacy media.
	And I want to hear it from the horse's mouth.
	I'm getting conflicting reports why Larry did this crazy thing.
	One of them said, you had enough.
	You've seen the homelessness every single day.
	That's what triggered you.
	Another one of my sources, a very reliable source, said, no, no, no, no, no.
	It was Rabbi Prager who said, who convinced the sage to actually take this brave, brave step.
	So Mr. Larry Elder, JD, Why are you doing this?
	Well, it was a combination of, I would say, 20% a woman you probably don't know named Jenny Sand, who came out of nowhere.
	She's a political activist here in California, had all sorts of papers, documents, researches, kept contacting me.
	I was ignoring her.
	She said, just have dinner with me.
	So I did.
	And she laid out the formula for why she thought I could win a statewide election if I ran in this recall election.
	I thought she was nuts.
	Then Dennis Prager came to me.
	So 20% Dennis Prager.
	He asked me to run.
	And I said, hell no.
	20% a guy named Pastor Jack Hibbs, who has the Calvary Church in Costa Mesa in Orange County.
	And 20% a man named Lionel Chetwin, who's a longtime filmmaker and friend of mine.
	I think we're at 80% now.
	And then the rest were barbers, laundry people, the guy that drives me every now and then, the one that does makeup for me.
	I just asked them, do you think I ought to run?
	People are asking me to do it.
	I kept waiting.
	Waiting for somebody to say, are you insane?
	You have a great life.
	You're making some decent money.
	Why do you want to subject yourself to this?
	Why do you want to put your personal life to exposure?
	Why do you want people to twist your life all around and treat you like everything but a child of God?
	And finally, I got to the point where I said to myself, if not you, who?
	If not now, when?
	I'm a native Californian.
	I've been talking about these issues about crime, about homelessness, about the outrageous cost of living, about the fact that for the first time, In our state's history, young people are leaving the state, going to places like Tennessee and Florida and Texas, and the primary reason is they cannot buy a house.
	And then you add to that the arrogant way this man shut down the state in the most severe way than any of the other 50 governors, while having his own kids enjoying in-school private education, while exempting himself from his own business from the mandate.
	And this famous French restaurant has become a metaphor for his arrogance because not only was he violating the mask mandates and the social distancing mandates there, he was with the very professionals who drafted them.
	And so people were just livid.
	That's why 2.2 Californians signed petitions to have this man recalled.
	About a quarter of those who signed the petition are Democrats and independents who just two years earlier voted for him.
	Tell us the latest developments, Haki.
	If I were Gavin Newsom or his administration, the idea of trying to get you rejected on a technicality is like the dumbest decision ever.
	You took them to court.
	You were victorious last week.
	So tell us what they try to do to you, where you're at, and how many other candidates there are on this recall ballot.
	Well, the Cliff Notes version is this.
	The outgoing Democrat governor, Jerry Brown, vetoed a bill that was passed by the left-wing legislature here in California.
	And by the way, there are super majorities in the lower house, the assembly, and super majorities in the upper house, the Senate, and they passed this bill.
	Basically, it was designed to force Donald Trump to turn over his taxes in order for him to qualify for the 2020 ballot here in California.
	Jerry Brown, the outgoing Democrat governor, vetoed it because he said it was unconstitutional.
	And said, in California, no bill ever dies.
	What they do is just lay low, and then they reintroduce it.
	So in comes the current governor, Gavin Newsom.
	They reintroduce the bill.
	He signs it.
	It's litigated all the way up to the California Supreme Court left wing.
	Seven zip rules.
	It's unconstitutional.
	Both U.S.
	Constitution and state constitution.
	However, they did rule it applied to gubernatorial races.
	Now, what it does is require you to turn over five years of your tax returns, which I did on time.
	They require you to turn in two sets.
	So 150 pages and another copy of 150 pages.
	For whatever reason, and I acknowledge it was an error on our part, there were seven pages missing in the second set.
	Now they had the seven pages in the first set, so the Secretary of State could easily have corrected this.
	Under statutory power, she has the power to do so.
	Rather than do that, she kept me off the ballot.
	So we sued and we made two arguments, A, that the law didn't even apply to recall elections, and if it did, I substantially complied.
	The left-wing judge, a registered Democrat who went to UC Berkeley for crying out loud, ruled A, that the law didn't apply to Elder, and B, if it did, he substantially complied.
	So it was gone.
	They tried their best, and they swung and they missed.
	And now I'm on the ballot.
	There are something like 40-some other Republicans and other people who are on the ballot.
	Only about a half a dozen are really serious.
	And already an LA Times poll came out, UC Berkeley poll came out, and I have 18 points.
	My next challenger has 10 points.
	I think Caitlyn Jenner has around three.
	And I'm not dissing my Republican opponents because it's a two-step, real simple deal.
	Unless 50% plus one voter rules that Gavin Newsom should be recalled, it doesn't matter what the rest of us have.
	I'm pretty confident I'm going to finish with a higher vote tally than my other Republican rivals.
	The question is whether or not enough Californians are going to vote for the recall.
	And this poll that came out this morning shows 47% are in favor of the recall and 53% are not.
	That's almost within the margin of error.
	And that's about a five point improvement on our side compared to just two weeks ago.
	People are mad about the crime.
	They're mad about the mandates.
	They're mad about the crappy schools that people saw for their first eyes because of the virtual learning that was going on.
	They're mad about the cost of living.
	You add it all up and it's a perfect storm for getting rid of this guy.
	And it seems like he's worried.
	It seems like Nancy Pelosi's nephew Grusom Newsom is worried because every week he's coming up with another plot to buy off voters.
	Correct, Larry?
	That's correct.
	Even the outgoing governor, Jerry Brown, criticized the spending.
	What this governor has just now done is he's given people a whole year rent-free on top of the $300 that you get up until at least September.
	And this is why California jobs have recovered only to the extent of 50%, as opposed to two-thirds in the rest of the country.
	I have a lot of friends who operate small businesses, who operate restaurants.
	They cannot find people to work.
	A group of economists from Bank of America, they weren't Trumpers, all said anybody making about $32,000 a year or less is better off not working than working.
	And this is what they've done.
	And again, what Gavin Newsom has done is that he has forced all these businesses to shut.
	You know, Jeff, you may not know this, but I ran a small business.
	I cracked this law for a while, but I ran a small business for 14 years.
	It was successful.
	I sold it, relocated to California.
	The business kept going.
	Most businesses that are small fail.
	Those that succeed are often just payroll to payroll.
	How many dreams did he kill?
	How many lives did he dash?
	You put your hopes and dreams in a business, and they were all gone because of this guy.
	And people are furious.
	And I want to remind people there's a direct connection between the crime And the homelessness and the cost of living and this man and the policies that have been pushed by the supermajorities of Democrats in the lower and upper chambers of the legislature here in California.
	And tell us about this absurd regulation that there are financial limitations on what you can spend for campaigning but the incumbent governor doesn't fall under those limitations?
	He does not.
	I have a nine million dollar expenditure limitation He can raise and spend an unlimited amount of money, and experts tell me that at minimum he's going to spend $50 million against me, maybe even $100 million, because I'm the one he's worried about.
	I'm the one who's from the hood.
	I'm the one who went to Crenshaw High School, where only 2% of kids can do math at grade level.
	I'm the one who's representing Hispanic parents who had to go to the ballots to put a petition called Proposition 227 some years ago, Seb, because their kids were in what were called bi-legal education.
	And the idea was that they needed these training wheels in order to transition to English fluency.
	Well, they weren't transitioning, so Hispanic parents gathered the signatures, put a petition on to get rid of this bilingual education in favor of total immersion.
	The way, you know, kids came from Italy and from Poland and from Hungary, World War II, they didn't have bilingual education in New York public schools.
	So the experts said, these kids are not going to be able to learn.
	And surprise, surprise, after the proposition passed overwhelmingly, Several years later, guess what?
	The kids were transitioning to English fluency far faster than they were before.
	And some of these so-called bi-legal experts had enough integrity to publicly say, we were wrong.
	These are the people that Democrats, the majority of black and brown ones want choice in school.
	And they pull the lever for Democrats that betray them year after year after year.
	And I go to the hood, and I go to the burials, and I'm telling people, these people are betraying you.
	And the beauty of a secret ballot is you could put your check next to Larry Elder, even though he has an R next to his name, and you don't have to tell your independent friends, you don't have to tell your Democrat friends.
	Aren't you tired of crime?
	Aren't you tired of homelessness?
	Aren't you tired of the cost of living?
	They don't have colors.
	They don't have ideologies.
	It's affecting every, well, I shouldn't say everybody, because rich people don't give a damn.
	Even though we have the highest state tax in the country, 13.3%, and poor people are taken care of by government.
	It's middle class people who are leaving for the very first time.
	It's a war on the middle and the working class by the very people who you put into power year after year after year.
	They are betraying you, and I can make that case in ways that scare Gavin Newsom.
	And it always has been thus.
	Support this man.
	He's got my vote.
	Electelder.com.
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	Okay, so let's step back a moment.
	This is America First.
	We're talking to my Salem colleague.
	He's running for the governorship of the great state of California, which I no longer, I used to call it the People's Republic of California.
	But thanks to Jennifer Horne and lots of Californians I met in California, I decided we don't make fun of it, we don't give up on it, and he definitely hasn't.
	So, and hopefully, when he becomes the governor, he'll hire Jennifer Horne to be his press spokesperson, because she needs to be... Done!
	Good!
	Done!
	Good!
	She's a champion!
	We love Jennifer!
	Okay, so for those who, for some reason, Stumbled upon this podcast, stumbled upon this clip on Rumble or wherever, and they've been living under a rock for the last 40 years and they don't know who Larry is.
	Tell us a little bit of where you came from, how you got to be this incredibly successful media personality, radio show host, and also, if I may, please, I've heard it four times before, makes me cry every time, tell us your story, your seminal story of reconciliation with your father.
	Well, my dad came to California in 1945, right after the war.
	He was a Pullman porter on the trains.
	They were the largest private employer of blacks in those days, Seb.
	And this black boy from Athens, Georgia, came out to California and was astonished you could walk in the front door of a restaurant and literally get served.
	So he made a mental note that maybe someday I'll relocate to Los Angeles.
	Pearl Harbor, my dad joined the Marines.
	I once asked him why the Marines and he said two reasons.
	They go where the action is and I love those uniforms.
	So my dad is stationed on the island of Guam where he is a staff sergeant in charge of cooking for the colored soldiers.
	Goes back to Chattanooga after the war where he met and married my mom to get him a job as a short order cook and pardon my language Seb, he goes to restaurant to restaurant to restaurant to get him a job as a short order cook and they tell him they don't hire niggers.
	My dad goes to an unemployment office And the lady says, you went to the wrong door.
	My dad goes to the door that says colored only to the very same lady who sent him out.
	My dad went home to my mom and said, this is BS.
	I'm going to California where I had been before the war and get me a job as a short order cook in Los Angeles.
	They'll hire me.
	So he goes to restaurant, to restaurant, to restaurant out in California, in LA, and they tell him he doesn't have any references.
	And my dad says, I need references to make omelets?
	So he goes to the unemployment office, this time just one door.
	He sits in the chair for a day, day and a half, until the lady calls him up and says, I have something for you.
	I don't know whether or not you're going to want to do it.
	And he said, sure, I'm going to want to do it.
	What is it?
	She said, it's a job cleaning toilets with Nabisco brand bread.
	He did that for 10 years, took a second job with another bread company for 10 years, cooked for a family on the weekend to get additional money, and went to night school a couple of nights a week to get his GED.
	Larry, in all of that time, did he ever say or intimate that he was a victim?
	Never.
	And that's my point.
	My dad saved his nickels and dimes with these kinds of jobs and bought a house, which is still in the family, in an area of South Central Los Angeles that we thought was uptown.
	I mean, we were the second black family in what was then an all-white neighborhood.
	And right now, that house is valued at $600,000.
	You couldn't buy a house like that with an eighth-grade dropout education if you work three jobs.
	And the point is, the cost of living in California has gotten so outrageous that you cannot possibly pursue my dad's path.
	Now, my dad and I had a rocky relationship because he was always yelling and screaming, and I thought he whipped us too hard and too often.
	And when he started the little cafe, I had to work for the SOB.
	So now I'm 10 years old.
	I've been working for him for five years.
	He's yelling and screaming at me, in my opinion, unnecessarily.
	This is a little diner.
	Don't think of a restaurant.
	Think of a little diner where everybody can hear everything going on.
	So now I'm 15 years old.
	I got tired of the way he spoke to me, and I said to myself, Next time he yells at me, I'm going to walk out.
	I wish I could tell you, Seth.
	I said to myself, the next time he yells at me, I'm going to sit him down, and I'm going to say, see here, from now on, you and I are going to have a different relationship.
	But I was afraid of my father.
	So I walk out.
	My dad came home.
	He was furious.
	He paid me $10 a day plus tips.
	He balled up the $10 and threw it at me as I lay on the bed.
	He walked out of my bedroom after asking me, why did I leave?
	And I said, I got sick and tired of the way you spoke to me, Dad.
	We did not have a conversation, Seth, for the next 10 years.
	And when I say not conversation, I mean not even do you think it's going to rain?
	How about those Dodgers?
	I mean nothing.
	And he was easy to avoid because he worked long hours.
	I graduate from high school.
	I go to college on the East Coast.
	I go to law school in the Midwest.
	I ended up working in the Midwest for several years.
	And I would come home to visit my mom.
	I would just make sure my father was never around.
	We did not speak to each other for 10 years.
	Now I've graduated from law school.
	I passed the California and Ohio bars.
	I'm working for a major law firm in Cleveland.
	Right now I'm making the equivalent of probably about $175,000.
	And I'm 25, 26 years old.
	And I should be living large, but I can't sleep.
	I'm having nightmares.
	I'm thinking about my father.
	Not that I ever thought we'd be friends, but I called my secretary and I said, cancel all my appointments.
	I'm going to LA.
	I didn't tell my parents.
	But what were you thinking?
	Like you have unfinished business or what were these thoughts?
	It was unfinished business that maybe I should just tell him he's an SOB.
	Maybe he'll tell me I'm an ungrateful son.
	And then the air will be cleared sufficiently so I can sleep at night.
	I didn't think we'd ever be friends.
	So I come out to California without telling him.
	I walk into the restaurant at 1.30.
	I knew they closed at 2.30.
	My dad was shocked to see me.
	I had a big bag with me.
	He said, should I put your bag in the back?
	I said, no, dad.
	I'm only going to be here for 5 or 10 minutes.
	I want to tell you something.
	He said, OK, wait until we close.
	I sat at the counter for an hour.
	And I said to myself, now, Larry, Don't tee off on the SOB.
	Don't tell him everything he's ever done to you.
	Just give him the highlights, and he'll probably call you an ungrateful son.
	Maybe you'll be able to sleep.
	So the man sat next to me, not more than a foot or two away, and I promptly teed off on him.
	Told him everything he ever did to me.
	The spanking that he gave me one time when my cousin Elaine was watching and laughing.
	All the times he hit me.
	All the times he hit me with a telephone cord.
	All the times I thought he was excessively angry and mean.
	And I spoke for 20 minutes to him.
	And after 20 minutes, I was out of ammo.
	I couldn't think of anything else to say.
	And my father looked up and said, is that it?
	You didn't speak to me for 10 years because of that?
	And for the first time, I saw my father cry.
	Now, my father's a big man.
	I didn't think he had the ability to cry.
	He cried.
	And he said, let me tell you about my father.
	You know your last name, Elder?
	I said, yes.
	He said, that's not the name of my biological father.
	Now, keep in mind, I knew my dad was an only child because we never got any Christmas presents.
	And I knew he had no grant, no father.
	We didn't get any Christmas presents.
	Outside of that, I didn't know a damn thing about my dad's life because I didn't care.
	I didn't like him.
	I didn't care.
	And my dad, for the next eight hours, told me about his life.
	Elder was the name of the man who was in his mom's life the longest.
	She was irresponsible, didn't work, could neither read nor write, had a series of boyfriends, each one crueler and dumber than the one before.
	Elder was an alcoholic who physically beat his mom.
	And when my dad intervened every now and then, he beat him.
	My dad was punished severely.
	The reason my dad used a belt, Seb, is he thought that that was a progressive way of punishing kids.
	He was smacked with anything, a fist, a rock, any damn thing.
	My father thought he was being genteel when he was banging us.
	And my dad told me about his life, and as he told me about his life over the course of the next eight hours as we sat at these two stools, he got bigger and bigger and bigger, and Larry got smaller and smaller and smaller.
	And now I'm crying.
	And I said to my father, please forgive me for judging you so harshly.
	And he said, there's nothing to forgive.
	You just didn't know.
	Follow the lessons I've always told you and your brothers.
	Hard work wins.
	You get out of life what you put into it.
	Larry, you cannot control the outcome, but you are 100% in control of the effort.
	Before you moan and groan about what somebody else did to you, go to the nearest mirror, look at it and say, what could I have done to change the outcome?
	And finally, he said, no matter how good you are, how hard you work, sooner or later, bad things are going to happen.
	How you respond to those bad things will tell your mother and me, if we raised a man.
	Now I wrote a book about this eight hour conversation called Dear Father, Dear Son, Two Lives, Eight Hours.
	Because after we had the conversation, I go back to Cleveland and my father wrote me a letter.
	He never wrote me a letter.
	And it said, dear son, he never called me son.
	And I wrote him back and I called him dear father.
	And my father was a lifelong Republican, Seb.
	He believed Democrats want to give you something for nothing.
	And when you try and get something for nothing, you almost always end up getting nothing for something.
	He disliked Democrats.
	He never would allow us to think of ourselves as victims.
	He always told us the door is wide open.
	Go through it.
	Work hard.
	You can do whatever you want to do in America.
	It is yours to take.
	And that's the philosophy I've always lived under.
	And that's what I think has made my brothers and me so successful.
	You've got to read this book.
	I've heard the story several times now.
	It always gets better and better.
	Dear father, dear son.
	And it tells you the opposite of what we're hearing from the left.
	You need not be a victim, especially based upon your skin color.
	We are talking to Larry Elder.
	He's running for the governorship of California.
	Follow him at Larry Elder.
	He has a very good... His Twitter game's not bad, but his Instagram game is even better.
	We're talking about his background, how he got to be where he is today.
	Talk to us, firstly... Let me run this past you, okay?
	This is a big picture idea that I just heard This weekend at a wedding where I spent most of the wedding talking to a black conservative who's been involved in politics a long time but he's also a very successful businessman and he understands what I do.
	His wife works for one of the big conservative think tanks and he said, and it wasn't confrontational, he was just trying to give his point of view, guys you've got to cool it.
	on the critical race theory.
	Conservatives have got to cool it on the culture stuff, because especially when you're trying to connect with black America, with minority America, they don't want to hear that stuff.
	It immediately labels you as a conservative, they shut down.
	But they can be engaged with when you ask them, hey, how hard is it for you to get a permit to open your barbershop?
	What is the business environment like?
	What is the taxation like in downtown Chicago?
	And he says, you can get to the important culture stuff like fatherless families, but if you come in there talking about it, you're never going to have that conversation.
	It kind of opened my eyes, because for me, culture, culture, culture, Andrew Breitbart, you know, Alex Marlow, your young intern many moons ago.
	Right.
	But is this guy right that engage with the people who should be conservatives, whose values are conservative, but who vote Democrat through the lens of business and economics?
	I'd love to hear your response, Larry.
	Well, let me put it this way.
	In my 37 years in radio and TV, 27 years on radio, I've invited Al Sharpton on my show probably 50 to 100 times.
	Jesse Jackson, the same number.
	Farrakhan, the same number.
	But one of these so-called black leaders, a term I'm not particularly fond of, did come on my program.
	His name is Kweise Mfume.
	At the time, he was the president of the NAACP, former member of Congress from Maryland.
	Now he's back, by the way, in Congress from Maryland.
	And I said to him, right, my first question was verbatim this.
	Mr. Mfume, as between the presence of white racism or the absence of black fathers, Which poses a bigger threat to the black community, end of quote.
	And without missing a beat, the man said the absence of black fathers.
	Now, 70% of black kids enter the world today without a father married to the mother.
	That is up from 25% back in 1965.
	Unless you prepare to say America is more racist now than it was in 1965, you have to conclude that that has nothing whatever to do with race.
	A nouveau liberal named Lyndon Baines Johnson launched a so-called war on poverty and basically allowed women to
	To marry the government and allowed men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility and now we have this problem But these are the people supposedly who are on your side who have destroyed the nuclear intact family same thing with education 75% of black boys here in California said cannot read at state levels of proficiency and that's a low bar my former high school credential high school the one that was featured in Boys in the Hood and Only 2% of kids can do math at grade level.
	Now, there are 300,000 public school teachers in California.
	It is estimated that a minimum of 5% are utterly incompetent, should be fired.
	That's 15,000 teachers running through the halls of our classrooms, undereducating, miseducating, or not educating our kids.
	You wouldn't put up with that with the LAPD.
	The LAPD is 10,000 persons strong.
	Imagine if 5% of them were corrupt.
	Planning evidence, using excessive force, racially profiling, we wouldn't put up with it.
	But we're putting up with 15,000 public school teachers who were bad.
	And many of them end in the inner city, not in the valley, not in the west side, where parents complain.
	And recently, there's been a study that shows two-thirds of black families in the Los Angeles Unified School District do not want to send their kids back to school after the school opens up in the fall.
	Two-thirds.
	And they blame systemic racism.
	Now, before you roll your eyes and go, OK, another allegation of systemic racism, Because most of the teachers there are black.
	Many of the administrators are black.
	The principals are black.
	What they mean is the worst teachers end up in the inner city, the black and brown schools where good teachers are needed the most.
	Now, who's on your side?
	I want the money to follow the child.
	The $12,000 per capita, actually I think it's higher than that, that we're spending per student should follow the child and the parents should be able to use that money in a private school, a charter school, a religious school, or a public school.
	The teachers union adamantly opposed to that.
	And you look at where they send their own school-age kids.
	In Philadelphia, 44% of public school teachers who have school-age kids send their own kids to private school, as opposed to 10% of families nationwide and 6% of black families nationwide.
	39% in Chicago, LA, USD, Los Angeles Unified School District, where I am, public school teachers with school-age kids are twice as likely to put their own kids in private schools compared to families that don't have a public school teacher.
	And I've often said, it's as if you opened up a restaurant, put up a sign, and said, come on in, just don't eat the food.
	Now, these are Democrats that are parents.
	The polls show a majority of them want vouchers.
	These are Democrats who are not giving them to them.
	You're being betrayed.
	And I can make the case in ways that other Republicans cannot, or have not, because I'm black.
	I'm from the inner city.
	I've seen the deterioration of the quality of schools with my own eyes.
	Now, out of the 300,000 Public school teachers, I mentioned that 5% of them are incompetent, that's 15,000.
	Guess how many are fired any given year?
	2.2!
	Honestly, it's outrageous!
	And Gavin Newsom, shutting down the schools, the kids are already behind as I mentioned.
	His own kids enjoyed private, in-person school learning.
	And he exempted his own restaurant from the very mandates that he's crammed down the throats of everybody else.
	He's a hypocrite.
	He's anti-science.
	He didn't give a damn about the rising crime, about the rising homelessness, about the outrageous cost of living.
	There's a magazine called CEO Magazine.
	It's been in existence for exactly 17 years.
	And based on taxes, spending, the degree to which the business climate is friendly or unfriendly, the unfunded pension mandates, the strength of the public sector unions, they determined that for 17 consecutive years, California is the worst state of all 50 in which to do business.
	This is why, for the first time, young people are leaving.
	Incredible.
	Incredible.
	All right.
	Let's pull out.
	We'll talk about California.
	Support this man.
	Electelder.com.
	Let's pull up.
	Let's go to 50,000 feet.
	Let's talk about the last two, three years in America, Larry.
	BLM.
	Let's talk about our response to BLM as conservatives.
	What is So there's this big issue on the right for the conservative movement.
	Do we ignore the accusations of racism and just say, no, it's about freedom, independence, small government?
	The First Amendment, the Second Amendment, and engage like that?
	Or does there have to be some recognition of racism?
	We don't buy into the white supremacy garbage mantra, but can we engage?
	Can a white conservative like me, Larry, engage with my fellow Americans in the inner cities as a conservative and American?
	I need an answer from somebody who's been delivering the truth and has all the facts at his fingertips.
	How do we solve this problem in an era where social justice is the mantra for one side of the argument?
	Tell the truth.
	Malcolm X once said, I'm for the truth no matter who's telling it.
	I've often said this, pick up your magic wand, wave it over America, remove every smidgen of racism from the hearts of white America.
	Now every white person thinks like Mother Teresa.
	Do we still have 70% of black boys entering the world without a father married to the mother?
	Do we still have a 50% dropout rate in many of our urban high schools and where kids who do graduate cannot read, write, and compute at a great level?
	Are 25% of black boys in many of our urban settings having criminal records, having been arrested on parole or on probation?
	Is the number one cause of preventable death for young white boys accidents like car accidents?
	Is the number one cause of preventable death for young black boys Homicide almost always at the hands of another black boy.
	Is a young black man eight times more likely to be killed than a young white boy?
	If the answer to that series of questions is yes, then I submit to you systemic racism is not the problem and critical race theory and reparations are not the answer.
	Okay, let's talk about the language of how we engage.
	I've watched you because we've been in the same location when you're prepping for a show.
	I've seen the amount of work you put in and truly it is a data dump in the best sense of the word.
	You give enough Debating material in 30 minutes.
	You do more than any other host I know.
	But here's my challenge to you.
	One of the reasons that The Gipper was so successful is he melded two things.
	He'd spent more than a decade traveling from GE factory to GE factory being paid to lecture the American worker on why capitalism is the best, why Republican democracy is the best.
	So Reagan had all the facts at his fingertips, But, having been a Hollywood star, he could also communicate.
	He had that emotional intelligence that he wasn't just putting up a, you know, a pie chart or a Laffer curve diagram, but he could talk to you and he could talk about, you know, a new morning in America.
	He could engage the heart of the listener whilst he also had the truth and the facts behind him.
	In recent years, especially with the Ben Shapiro, you know, facts don't care about your feelings mantra, I think we're falling back into that trap where the left lies but they do it with such an emotional alacrity, social justice and everything else, that it gains traction.
	We far too often say, oh look, here's another policy paper on, you know, if you lower the taxes you'll have more in revenue and we think that's enough.
	Is the conservative movement in an age of MAGA, in an age of America First, have we forgotten how to meld the two together, Larry?
	Well, I think you're being too hard on yourself.
	I love your show.
	I love the way you communicate with people.
	I'm serious.
	I'm not talking about me.
	I'm talking about all of us.
	But everybody's different.
	And you're right about Ronald Reagan.
	Ronald Reagan was able to To give facts and also tell stories.
	And I give facts and I tell stories too.
	So to that extent, I guess there's some similarity there.
	But again, I think it's just about telling the truth.
	Why is it that a white person would be reluctant to tell a black person the truth?
	Are you telling me a white coach can't coach a black athlete or vice versa?
	It's ridiculous!
	Should there only be black teachers of math and science?
	Ridiculous!
	Tell the truth, and it's up to other people, including black people, to be willing to receive the truth.
	Stop thinking of yourself as a victim.
	Stop acting as if only a black person can relate to you.
	That's a bunch of horse bleed.
	One of my favorite heroes growing up was Sandy Koufax, and he was a Jew.
	And I remember during the World Series, he refused to pitch during Yom Kippur.
	I didn't know what Yom Kippur was.
	I went to my mom and I said, how can somebody not pitch in the World Series?
	And she explained to me what Yom Kippur was, and I had even more respect for him because of his class and character.
	By the way, if I may, fast forward several years later, and I'm able to meet Sandy Koufax.
	I've always wanted to be a writer more than anything else, and the first thing I ever wrote, I was in the sixth grade, and it got published.
	It was a poem about Sandy Koufax.
	And the first stanza is, Koufax is on the mound, the game has just begun, he gets a sign from the catcher, and swish, strike one.
	So, fast forward 20 or 30 years later, I'm at an event, black tie event, and Sandy Koufax is in the front table, and I'm in the nosebleed seat, but I know a publicist named Warren Cowan, who knows everybody, And I said, any way you can get me down to that table to meet Sandy?
	And he says, wait a second, I'll go find out.
	He goes and comes back in five minutes and says, follow me.
	We go up to Sandy Koufax and he introduces Koufax to me and tells him I'm a writer and I'm a talk show host.
	And I said, Sandy, I told him the story I told you.
	I said, Sandy, the first thing I ever wrote was a poem about you.
	Can I give you the first stanza?
	He goes, go ahead.
	I said, Koufax is on the mound.
	The game has just begun.
	He gets a sign from the catcher and swish, strike one.
	He puts his hand on my shoulder and he says, don't quit your day job.
	That's excellent.
	Follow him at Larry Elder.
	Support him at electelder.com.
	We need to save America.
	But let's start with California.
	Let's get him into that governor's mansion.
	OK, let me tell you a story.
	OK, thank you for your kind words.
	We need to tell stories.
	Help me to explain why this happened.
	So Candace Owens has talked very eloquently about the new political plantation.
	It's not cotton picking, but it's still Democrats and it's a political plantation with dependency on the state.
	I was in San Francisco not too long ago.
	Some firefighters recognized me in a coffee shop and they invited me to their station house.
	Amazing guys.
	I mean, they are in the tenderloin.
	The worst past of San Francisco.
	Awful stuff.
	And half of them were Democrats.
	But they all had had enough with California.
	So why is it, whether it's the black voting majority, or whether it's, you know, good guys risking their lives every single day, have had enough with the Democrat Party, why is it that these communities still vote for them, Larry?
	That's a good question.
	And by the way, you know, my good friend Thomas Sowell, the economist, once talked about how much blacks and whites had in common.
	And by that he meant this.
	We often talk about the housing disparity, the net worth disparity.
	But he said, look at the bottom half of blacks and the bottom half of whites in terms of net worth.
	The advantage to whites is just 3.5%.
	The real gap is that the top 10% of white families, top 10% of black families, top 10% of white families make way more money than top 10% of black families.
	But the bottom half of whites versus the bottom half of blacks, almost the same.
	And so the crap that the elites pull that hurt people at the bottom, whether it's critical race theory, whether it's demonizing the police so they pull back and bad guys know it and the people being hurt are predominantly black and brown people, whether it's the elite people like Rob Reiner, who years ago stopped a housing project called Amundsen Ranch that would have built 9,000 homes.
	I admit the land was pristine and beautiful, but there are always trade-offs.
	Unless he lives on a houseboat, wherever he lived at one time was pristine as well.
	But he stopped it.
	Ten years later, they high-fived each other.
	I read an article about it.
	Not a single person said, well, now there are 9,000 people who didn't have homes.
	That's the reason the price of housing is so high in California.
	150% more than the average home outside of America, and 50% of the price of housing in California has to do with environmental regulations, all of which are pushed by people living in the, who belong to the ACLU and the Sierra Club, who want to develop pristine land while they're sitting in homes that at one time were pristine.
	It's the people at the bottom who are hurt.
	Blacks and browns and whites, all of whom have a great deal in common.
	I can make that case.
	I can make that case.
	I am making that case.
	And that's what they're afraid of.
	They're afraid I'm going to be able to talk to voters, Democrats and independents, in ways that other Republicans never have and for some reason don't think they can.
	Okay, so let's talk about this latest decision of yours.
	We're talking to Larry Elder.
	This is America First.
	He is the sage from South Central.
	Listen to him every day to get six hours of radio in the space of just three.
	Talk to us about, we know why you took this decision.
	It is absolutely understandable.
	Talk to us about what your plan is for California and how you can make it happen despite the Democrat supermajorities.
	Well, one of the reasons I didn't want to run, Seb, is because of the supermajorities that you talked about.
	And I figured that once I vetoed something stupid, it would be overridden fairly easily.
	Well, I found out that there hasn't been a bill overridden since the early 70s.
	And that was the first time that Jerry Brown was governor.
	It turns out that Arnold Schwarzenegger, who wasn't really a Republican, wasn't really a conservative, vetoed hundreds of bills.
	Not a single one was overridden.
	Now what happens is you veto something stupid, You go to the public and tell them how stupid the bill was, and believe it or not, the phone rings if you're a senator, the phone rings if you're an assemblyperson, and your constituents are mad that you almost passed this stupid bill.
	But you have that ability.
	You also have the line-item veto.
	You also have the ability to declare a statewide emergency.
	And I talked with the in-house counsel for former Governor Nate Peopleson.
	I said, how come you can't use a statewide emergency on housing?
	He said, what do you mean?
	I said, the housing developers tell me there are 500,000 units all ready to go if only the lawsuits would stop.
	Why can't I declare a public emergency and get rid of that environmental law called CEQA?
	California Environmental Quality Act that has been used to basically hold up almost any construction project.
	He said, hmm, I never thought about it.
	I said, how come I can't use my statewide emergency power and declare a public education emergency and fire the 5% of public school teachers that are incompetent?
	He said, hmm, I never thought about that.
	How come I can't use my statewide emergency power and declare a public emergency on homelessness to do a couple of things, Repeal Proposition 47 that allows you to steal up to $950, not every day, every store.
	And if you get caught, you get a ticket, you get a misdemeanor.
	Well, the idea behind it was interesting and valid.
	People like that are often stealing to support a drug habit.
	They ought to go to treatment rather than to jail.
	The problem is once you remove the threat of them going to jail as felons, there's no incentive for them to go to treatment.
	So people are stealing to support their meth habit.
	And when the cops try to do something about it, they say, or else what?
	And what they want to do is to build houses for the homeless.
	At cost substantially higher than what the private sector could do if it weren't for these environmental quality act.
	I would declare a statewide emergency and suspend sequel and by the way sequel was waived for the Sacramento King Stadium up in Sacramento for a billionaire that wanted to build it so they can certainly get around sequel when they want to.
	But when they don't want to, they're hurting middle class and working class people, as I mentioned.
	So there are at least three things I can do declaring a public emergency in education, public emergency for homelessness, public emergency for the cost of living, and even for crime.
	Crime is up dramatically in Bay Area, in L.A., in San Diego, for a couple of reasons, not least of which is that the police are engaging in this defund the police movement.
	Barbara Boxer, the former senator from California, just got mugged yesterday.
	Her cell phone was taken for crying out loud.
	And a few days earlier, the chief of police of Oakland, happened to be black, was complaining about all the money being moved out of the Oakland Police Department for these ridiculous programs.
	I'm in Los Angeles, $150 million moved out of the LAPD budget, crime are up, homicides are up, shootings up year to year.
	What the hell is going on here?
	And once again, the people who are hurt are primarily people living in the undercity, black and brown people that march in there and pull that lever for the Democratic Party.
	You are being betrayed And I can make the case in a strong way, and that's why they're so afraid of me.
	And they should.
	They definitely should be afraid of Larry Elder.
	Support him.
	Go to electelder.com right now.
	Larry, let's close on another big picture question.
	In the last year and a half, As I've been enjoying hosting my radio show, it's come to me that we only really have one issue, one real problem in America.
	It doesn't matter what your personal issue that most impassions you is, whether it's the First Amendment, Second Amendment, the right to life, lower taxation, it matters not what the primary issue for you personally is.
	The biggest problem we face as a republic is a general, and I mean a pandemic level, lack of courage in this nation.
	I look at the response to COVID, the response to the lockdowns.
	I look at the response to the... We knew they were going to steal the election.
	We knew that there was going to be fraud.
	So I ask you, Larry, Do you concur that we have a lack of courage?
	Clearly, you've taken a very courageous step right now.
	Or where do you see the largest deficits in what should be the greatest, shiniest city on the hill?
	Well, thank you for the compliment.
	But when I'm talking about courage, I'm not storming the beaches of Normandy.
	I've never served in the military.
	These are people that put their life on the line.
	So I appreciate what you said.
	But I was just talking with a buddy of mine the other day, Seb, and I want to get your reaction to this.
	If somebody had told me before the coronavirus pandemic, there's going to be a pandemic.
	It's going to kill about 500,000 Americans.
	That's less, by the way, than Americans that were killed in the Spanish flu around the World War I. And government is going to shut down the entire economy of this country, the entire economies of the state of California.
	I would have said, At least 30, 40, 50% of the people would have said, F you.
	I'm going to continue going to work.
	I'm going to continue going to school.
	Throw me in jail.
	There'd be so many people in jail.
	They wouldn't be able to enforce the law.
	There was a restaurant owner out here who kept his restaurant open despite the threats to cite him.
	He was cited over and over again, still kept it open.
	They put chains on his restaurant.
	He cut the chains.
	They cut his power.
	He put in the generator.
	Finally, they hooked his license to sell liquor, and he finally shut out the business.
	I would have thought there would have been hundreds of thousands of Americans doing just what that guy did, and they wouldn't have been able to get away with this.
	I am shocked how many Americans, like sheep, like lemmings, did what they were told.
	It blows me away.
	Just as I was blown away by Obamacare.
	No one could have told me that the government could force every man, woman, and child, whether they could afford it, whether they wanted it, or whether it was effective, to get healthcare.
	By government mandate.
	I'm shocked at the willingness of people to be told what to do by government.
	I really am.
	I want to know what your reaction is.
	As a person who had a father who risked everything, was arrested, tortured by the secret police, then liberated from a communist prison cell, you know, for me I had that example of courage before my eyes
	From the moment I could understand it, as somebody who chose this nation to become its citizen, to move my family here because I truly believe it is the greatest nation on God's earth, I'm truly horrified.
	I mean, I am utterly horrified.
	Absolutely.
	The idea that people just didn't have, you know, if Gandhi could do it, against, you know, the British Empire, that we actually managed to declare our independence from with just civil disobedience, then why couldn't we do it here in America?
	The idea that businesses are just gone, gone, you know, decades worth of investment for families, and they've just disappeared.
	I'm as disgusted as you are.
	So I guess you agree with me that the virtue we lack the most is courage.
	And I remember you saying, Seb, early on in this thing.
	You said, I refuse to wear a mask.
	I remember you saying it distinctively.
	You said it over and over again.
	And just yesterday, Jerry Brown is now ordering state workers to be tested once a week.
	You mean Newsom?
	Newsom.
	I'm sorry, who did I say?
	Brown.
	OK, Brown.
	Not a whole lot of difference.
	He just now said, if you are a state worker and you haven't been vaccinated, you're going to be tested once a week.
	And you're going to wear a mask at work.
	Now think about this.
	We're told the reason for being vaccinated is that you are protected against people who've not been vaccinated.
	So who are you protecting yourself against by wearing a face mask when you've already assumed the risk of contracting the coronavirus?
	The other people who've not been vaccinated at work have assumed the risk.
	So why are you telling people who've assumed the risk To protect other people who've assumed the risk when you're telling vaccinated people that the reason to get vaccinated is that you're protected.
	The whole thing is anti-science.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	And once again, the state workers like Lemmings are going to do what they're told.
	I am amazed.
	I'm amazed at this.
	Yeah, so, yeah, and just one one codicil to that.
	It's not just the grown-ups.
	The thing that horrifies me the most is what we're doing and have done to our children.
	The children, healthy, healthy children, Who have a mortality rate of 0.05 from COVID while still being masked is unconscionable.
	Okay, let's end on your mission to get California back.
	It's electelder.com.
	What is your final message for all Californians or those outside California who want to support you, Larry?
	My final message is, as California goes, so will go a number of states.
	People tell me that people leave California and they blame their left-wing policies with them.
	That's because they haven't connected the dots.
	So if you want me to, when Californians leave, for them to not pull the lever for the Democrats, they should at least be educated as to why they're leaving.
	And if you love the state of California like I do, even as a tourist, help me make the state great again.
	There's a magazine called The Atlantic, Left Wing, came out a few months ago.
	The California Dream is dying.
	This is a left-wing magazine saying this.
	So help me by going to electelder.com.
	Again, as Sebastian and I were talking about, Gavin Newsom can raise and spend as much money as he wants.
	The estimation is he'll spend anywhere from between $50 and $100 million to defeat me.
	I cannot win without your helping me.
	And for the millionaires and billionaires that Bernie Sanders talks about, you can send your money to political action committees that support choice in school.
	That's more of the repeal of that proposition called 47.
	Because if I don't have a war chest that rival his, I cannot beat this man.
	The governor, Gruesome Newsome, is very worried, and that's reason enough to support this man.
	God bless you.
	We are praying for you, Larry.
	If anybody can do it, you can do it.
	He's the author of Dear Father, Dear Son.
	He's my colleague.
	I consider him a friend and a mentor.
	He is the sage from South Central.
	Support him at electelder.com.
	God bless you, Larry.
	God bless you, Seb.
	Thank you so much for having me.
	I appreciate it.

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