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July 13, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka
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Sebastian Gorka LIVE: Larry Elder for Governor of California
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Thank you.
We have an attack on the police, calling the police to pull back. - Okay.
We have incredible homelessness here in California.
It is estimated that maybe one quarter of all the homeless population in America is here in California.
And why not?
We're not dealing with the underlying problem.
We're throwing money after money after money, building homes.
and attracting other people who get free homes without dealing with the underlying problems.
Some of these people are schizophrenic, who are danger to themselves and others.
They need to be literally ticked off the streets and held.
Others need to be treated.
And then when they are treated and become self-sufficient, where are they gonna go?
We have no cheap apartments, no low-cost housing, all because of these environmental regulations that discourage builders and developers from supplying more homes.
And maybe, just maybe, I can do something about that.
So I am hereby announcing that I am running for Governor of California in this recall election to be held on September 14.
Exciting news last night on my colleague Larry Elder's show.
After decades of fighting the good fight on the air as a media personality, as a commentator, as the sage of South Central, he's stepping into the ring to challenge Gruesome Newsome, Nancy Pelosi's nephew, for the governorship of the great state of California.
Triggered as he was by just the devastation he's seen in that state, especially the plight of homeless Americans on the streets of some of the erstwhile greatest cities our nation has to offer.
We're going to talk to Larry Elder.
I want your reactions to this exciting news.
Does he have a shot?
Can he do it?
Is it time for Newsom to go?
Our number here 833-33 Gorka.
That's 833-334-6752.
33 Gawker, that's 833-334-6752.
Sound off on Larry's decision, and maybe we might even take your call when Larry joins us.
In addition to A.G. Ken Paxton of Texas, Lord Conrad Black, Ken Cuccinelli, and so much more.
But first, the international news of the day continues.
The Cuban regime is trying to crack down on the American, on the citizens of that nation who are flying the American flag.
Why?
Because they want liberty.
They want freedom.
And even Democrat voices have had enough.
This is Florida Representative Mario Diaz-Balart talking, interestingly, on Fox News.
Cut six.
Play cuts.
Donald Trump was the president of freedom, particularly the president of freedom in this hemisphere.
And he is seen that way by folks who live under repression and oppression.
And so the same people that criticize the flag and hate the American flag also will criticize President Trump for his attitude of showing solidarity with the people living in those conditions and looking at ways to pressure their regimes.
Unlike, by the way, during the Obama administration, the Obama administration went out of its way to help fund and help and solidify the Castro regime and abandon the people.
The contrast could not be so dramatic.
My corrections, of course, it wouldn't be a Democrat.
Of course it's a Republican, that representative.
But the point remains the same.
Donald Trump is associated with what?
Withstanding by the principles upon which this nation was built, being in his forthrightness, whether it's with dictators in Pyongyang, whether it's murderous mullahs in Tehran, or whether it's bloodthirsty former KGB colonels in the Kremlin, of standing up to them and saying, no, not on my watch.
Let's contrast that with the last five months of the new administration.
What is it that the world... Forget about the divisive politics here in America, the consequences of January the 6th, critical race theory, the criminalization of conservatism, the white supremacists under the bed that Democrats seem to see every single day.
Let's look at the international image.
What is it That an international observer, a good guy or a bad guy, associates with this post-Trump White House.
When you look at Joe Biden, when you look at Kamala Harris, when you look at the virtue signaling chief of the Joint, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Mark Milley, When you hear this chief diplomat, Antony Blinken, say that the priority for the State Department is to root out nationalism and white supremacists?
How do you look at America?
At least at the current political elite that is formerly running America.
Do you say this is the time to exploit fecklessness?
This is the time to push on the edge of that envelope?
To destabilize where I can destabilize?
And then to force concessions wherever possible from this administration?
Now why wouldn't you?
Often, President Trump was misunderstood when he made this point, but when he talked about China, for example, that they've exploited American weakness, and he expects them to do nothing else, he's making a very sound point.
Whether you're a good guy, whether you're a democratic nation, whether you're a functioning representative of a republic, or whether you're a dictatorship, what are you trying to do?
You're fighting for your interests.
Whether you're the Soviet Union or whether you're the Netherlands.
But does that work?
Does that very base calculation, that formula, have any, any adherence to reality?
When the people who run the country, and I'm not going to say the ones who were elected, because you know how I feel, my friends.
There's no way on God's green earth that a senile, decrepit husk of a man who's been in politics for 47 years as one of the most corrupt bigots out there received more votes than the first black president?
Let alone 80 million votes?
Are you kidding me?
Of course not.
But the point is this, the person who bears the title of president, if he doesn't love the country he is leading, that has consequences, not just for the fate of that nation, but for how other governments will look at that nation.
If you have been elected on a platform where you say, America is the problem, America is racist, BLM is good, Antifa is good, defund the police!
Then what happens when you are installed, yes installed, into the chief executive position?
When that occurs, it's time to make hay while the sun shines.
If you're somebody who wills us ill, then do you know that there are subversive elements at the top of our government?
That's when you strike.
That's when you exploit.
That's when you destabilize.
God bless the people of Cuba!
Who on the obverse are actually standing up to those who would like to have a nice friendly baseball game again with the President of the United States like Barack Obama did.
No, not for them.
They're deciding the lack of American leadership is not a reason to not act.
But for us, we need to draw a similar conclusion.
This is a weak, weak regime.
It's not manned by great minds.
It's just manned by drones who are organized.
It's time for us to organize.
It's time for us to step into the arena, just like my good friend Larry Elder has.
And he's next.
Stay on this channel. Clear.
Mic's on.
And I cut 14.
Okay.
Cut 14's at Charlotte News Station.
Yep.
Just showing them going door-to-door with the vaccines.
Can I see it?
I'm getting it right now.
Alright, in the meantime, give me one.
Hey, who's this?
Thank you.
Chad.
Chad.
That was different.
Hey.
Shad.
What's up?
Do you wanna... Do you wanna... What's your last name?
Cut 14.
Oh yeah, can you play 14?
Right now, though, talking about the COVID vaccine could be coming right to your doorstep.
Starting today, the Mecklenburg County Health Department launched a new Doses to Doors program.
Health department workers giving out shots right there at your front door.
This is part of an urgent push to make getting vaccinated easy.
And we can tell you this new program started this morning in West Charlotte.
We knew a few people who took advantage of it.
That's crazy.
I might actually use that with Larry.
All right.
What kind of station was that?
What was that?
It's in Charlotte.
It's not a Fox affiliate?
No.
Okay.
Wow.
Is he calling us or are we calling him?
He's calling us.
Okay.
That was an interesting call.
That was different.
Different.
Atheist Eskenazi?
Yeah, I know.
We're not real.
Yeah, you never know anymore.
I know.
Oh yeah, he does.
Jeff knows.
That's why he's Mr. G. He's got a sixth, a seventh sense.
That's why, when he was gone the last couple days.
I see dead people.
I see pranksters.
That's Jeff.
Alright.
Alright, thirty seconds.
Thirty seconds, standing by.
Where's Larry?
Larry!
Mr. Elder.
You'll appear at the last second.
Future Governor Elder.
Governor Elder has a nice ring to it.
Alright.
Stand by.
What's up?
On the side of the U.S. Constitutional
Constitution, America first.
You know when you hear a news item and you say, I don't buy it, it's not gonna happen.
And then the obverse, within 24 hours it happens.
Door-to-door vaccinations, they're serious.
Here's a fresh clip from West Charlottesville, cut 14.
Right now though, talking about the COVID vaccine could be coming right to your doorstep.
Starting today, the Mecklenburg County Health Department launched a new Doses to Doors program.
Health department workers giving out shots right there at your front door.
This is part of an urgent push to make getting vaccinated easy.
And we can tell you this new program started this morning in West Charlotte.
We knew a few people who took advantage of it.
In West Charlotte.
I want to know, guys, what are you gonna do, wherever you are, if somebody knocks on your front door to stick a needle in your body?
I'm just curious.
Give us a call.
833-33 Gorka.
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But now, the man who made the news, who we opened our show with, with that exciting clip from last night, He's the sage.
He's my colleague on Salem Radio.
Is it true the future governor of California is on the line?
Well, Seb, I certainly hope so.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been absolutely crazy.
As you know, Seb, you've never heard me talk about entering politics.
Dennis Prager approached me several months ago and asked me to consider it, and I said, hell no.
I thought the state was ungovernable.
We have supermajorities in the Senate, supermajorities in the Assembly, and of course this left-wing governor, this anti-growth policy that's been jacking up the price of housing so young people are leaving because they can't get that first starter house.
We have declining public schools here.
The majority of urban parents want choice in education.
This man is completely, totally beholden to the teachers' union.
He does not want choice.
Crime is going up.
We have homelessness problems.
There are serious problems in this country.
And this man imposed the most severe coronavirus mandate lockdown.
Yes.
While he was sitting in that French restaurant, violating the very mandate that he had imposed himself.
It's the lobbyists who wrote them.
This guy has got to go, Seb.
It's a two-step deal.
The first step is, do you want it removed?
If the answer is yes, then whoever gets the highest vote to take its place becomes the next governor.
All right, so this is the man who, no kidding, he preps like crazy.
That's why he gets six hours of radio into three hours.
If he becomes governor, it will be eight years of governorship in one term in his first term.
But I gotta know, you can blame my rabbi, you can blame Dennis all you want, but you took the decision.
Why, after years and years of people saying to you, my friend Jennifer Warren and others, saying you need to get into politics and you say no, what changed Larry Elder?
I just started looking around and started looking at the issues, looking at the way this guy was arrogantly governing this state, hearing from so many people like you and others who I respect, who said, maybe you can do something about this.
You're a native Californian.
You know the issues.
You went to the public school system.
You know how lousy it is right now.
Maybe you've got some ideas about crime.
You've got some ideas about homelessness.
I've been on market in California, in Sacramento.
I'm on radio in the mid section of the state.
I'm on radio in Ventura.
I'm in L.A.
I'm in Riverside.
I'm in San Diego.
I have a good understanding of what's going on in the state.
And a lot of people said, if not you, who?
If not now, when?
And I began to see that.
I'm taking a huge financial hit.
And you know, and said, I'm not wealthy.
I mean, by... Hang on, I've seen the Instagram posts of your house and your pool.
Don't you try and hide your reality.
All my money is tied up in equity in my home.
I don't have any spending cash the way Gavin Newsom does.
And by the way, I have spending limitations.
He does not.
The union just poured $5 million to retain this guy.
He can spend as much money as he wants.
I cannot win this election without contributions from California.
I get the message.
It's electelder.com.
Go there right now.
Electelder.com.
Support this man.
I support him.
He's a great patriot.
He's a super brain as well.
And he's a fighter and he's a patriot.
As one of our callers in the break said, I don't support politicians, but Larry Elder is a conservative soldier and he's a knight, and that's just one of our callers.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, this is America First.
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Larry, so they have the signatures for the recall, but how are you going to get your name on the ballot?
Is this all squared away?
Do you have time?
Oh, it's all squared away.
I just did Norwalk, where I had to officially sign my entry into the race.
So it's all done.
I had to gather, I think, between 65 and 100 signatures to make sure I got 65 ballot signatures.
And it's off and running.
And there's probably going to be about 100 people on the ballot to try and replace this man.
And again, it's a two-step deal.
The first is, do you want him replaced?
If 50% plus one vote says yes, then whoever gets the highest number of votes Okay, I know you've got to prep for your show.
The call board is full.
Bernadette wants to vote for you.
Joy wants to talk to you.
Action takes place on September 14th, but the absentee ballots are sent out about a month from now.
So this is really compressed.
I need a lot of money because this is a David kind of Goliath deal, and we ain't Goliath.
Okay.
I know you've got to prep for your show.
The call board is full.
Bernadette wants to vote for you.
Joy wants to talk to you.
Can you stay on for one more segment?
I can.
Okay.
Well, I'm gonna have a person sitting in.
I think his name is Carl Jackson, if I'm not mistaken.
I hear he's very, very talented.
I've heard him a couple times.
On YouTube and various videos.
He'll be sitting in for me.
But I intend to win, and I intend to move my residence to Sacramento.
I'll be in the Governor's Mansion.
So I'm not sure when I'm going to be doing radio again.
I did my very last show last night.
Because of SEC regulations, once you declare it as a candidacy for an office, you're off the air.
What's your biggest message to those people who aren't political?
We're going to let you take some calls in the next segment from Californians, but what is your message, Larry Elder, to people in California?
Because they say you can't, you know, you can't win as a Republican.
What is your message to those people who don't see themselves as political, but who are fed up?
My message is to Democrats and to independents is, are you happy?
Are you happy with the cost of living?
Are you happy with the fact that a house in California costs 50% more than it would be if it weren't for these environmental experiments?
Are you happy about the quality of schools?
Are you happy to go under a freeway and see homeless people on either side?
Are you happy about crime going up in the Bay Area, going up in L.A.?
Literally, you can steal $950 or less and not be charged with a felony.
No threat of going to jail.
They give you a ticket if you get caught.
Are you happy with all those?
If the answer is no, go in there, pull that little curtain behind you, and check my name.
You don't have to tell anybody you did it.
You don't have to tell anybody you voted for a Republican.
If you're not happy, then feel the obligation to cross party lines and just check.
You don't have to tell anybody.
I won't tell anybody the beauty of ballots if they're private.
Yeah, that is the beauty of ballots.
That is the beauty of our system.
It's private.
Nobody needs to know that you want to save California.
Nobody needs to know.
Follow him right now at Larry Elder on Twitter.
He's on Instagram, everywhere else, the website.
To make sure he becomes the next governor and saves California, along with all those great Californians, is electelder.com.
That's electelder.com.
He's going to be with us for one more segment before we go to AG Ken Paxton.
We're going to be taking your calls.
Joy, Bernadette, don't go anywhere.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network, broadcasting across the nation to millions of listeners, live streaming on Rumble as well, wherever you are, whatever you're doing.
Don't touch that dial.
You tell him I can't stay?
Hey, Larry.
I got to go.
I blew it.
I got to go.
The End
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Well, what happened?
The best laid plans of mice and men.
Larry Elder said, of course I can stay with you for another segment.
And in the break he said, Oh no!
I messed up!
I'm supposed to be on another interview.
Of course you are, because you need to get elected governor of California.
I hope he's having back-to-back interviews, and I hope he's going to crush Gruesome Newsome.
But we need to hear your questions and your comments and your reaction, which we will forward them to Larry, if required.
Joy in California, line one.
Hello?
Yes, hello.
I have to say it's a great honor to speak with you, Dr. Gorka.
Thank you.
And I'm in Irvine, California, and when I heard your announcement this morning, I was so excited.
I can't think of a better person to govern this state instead of nuisance.
I wanted to say that as soon as I heard that Larry Elder wanted to run for governor, I swear I heard in my head his mother's voice say, you go, Larry.
Beautiful.
Explain to the rest of our listeners who may not be familiar with The Sage, why you're so excited at the news, Joy?
Because I live here.
I've lived here under Covid, under restrictions that were draconian, and seeing my state go from a paradise Yeah.
Fabulous question.
We are so excited.
Not just Joy, who's joyous in California, but also Bernadette.
be to drive people out of paradise.
Yeah.
Fabulous question.
We are so excited.
Not just Joy, who's joyous in California, but also Bernadette.
Bernadette, welcome to America First.
Thank you, Mr. Gorka, for taking my phone call.
Sure.
I just want to say I agree completely with Joy.
I'm so excited.
I wanted the governor, I mean, Grutham Newsom, recalled, but I had nobody to vote for until I heard Larry Elder was going to run.
He is a common sense Wonderful man, and I will vote for him.
I wish I could vote for him 10,000 times.
Hey, that's what Democrats do.
Don't do that.
God bless you.
Thank you, Bernadette.
Let's stay on the topic of Larry.
Let's go to Matt, North Carolina.
Hello, Mr. Gorka, Dr. Gorka, Commander of Conservative Radio.
Thank you kindly.
North Carolina.
Thank you.
I missed Larry Elder's show.
I believe it was Saturday morning here on WTKF.
I don't know, but he mentioned it.
He actually announced it last night on his show that he's running.
Okay, but I missed his radio show.
It was very good.
Very good.
Yours was very excellent, too.
Thank you for the books.
And I told you a call screener.
Mr. G, if I lived in California, I would vote for Larry Elder.
Well, you don't need to live in California to support him.
Thank you, Matt, for that vote of confidence.
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Wonderful, wonderful responses.
Exactly what I expected and we will continue to discuss.
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You saw, I hope you did, the posts The selfies, no masks on a private jet, Texas lawmakers escaping Texas.
Why?
Because they want to hide from their political responsibility and deny quorum for the election integrity measures being taken in the statehouse.
What's going to happen?
The governor says they're going to be arrested if they come back to Texas for dereliction of duty.
Well, let's ask the man who I am It's an honor to be on the same national committee with, it is the Election Integrity Alliance, and he's the Attorney General for Texas, Ken Paxson.
Welcome back to America First.
Hey, Sebastian, I appreciate you having me back.
So tell us the story.
For those who haven't been following the events in the Lone Star State, why did those Democrats get on a private jet without masks and ditch Texas?
Well, because they didn't have enough votes to stop the election integrity bill, which is designed to prevent fraud in elections from passing.
So instead of voting, which is their duty under the Constitution as a legislator, they said, we're going to try to stop the Republicans by just not showing up.
And what that does is it ends the quorum and the legislature, each house has to have two thirds present That's great.
the people of Texas, their representation.
So you in Texas take your state sovereignty very seriously and your representative government.
So what is the response?
You told me offline 16 years ago there was a similar incidence in 2003.
So what action can you as the chief law enforcement individual for that state take when these so-called politicians come back to Texas?
So one of the reasons they leave and go to Democratic states is that our state police can't go out of state unless there's a cooperation with the state that they're going to as it relates to getting legislators to come back.
So sending them to D.C., there's really little we can do to make them come back other than the governor can continue.
Our sessions are, you can go 30 days with a special session.
So what the governor can do is when the 30 days runs out, the very next day call another special session, then call another one.
Eventually, if they want to come back and live in Texas, they're going to have to come back.
And when they come back... And what happens?
Because the governor said he can arrest them.
So what happens then?
So basically, we nab them, bring their body back to the Capitol.
They get locked in with the rest of the legislatures already there, waiting for them to come back.
And believe me, they're all there, just stuck.
Waiting for these people to come back.
And when they come back, then they'll be able to go back to the normal process of representative government and voting on bills.
It's truly incredible.
This is a slap in the face for all Texans, especially the Texans that actually elected these Democrats to represent them.
Let's talk about the issue at hand, why they're running away from their responsibility.
You tweeted this out recently.
Election integrity measures have nothing to do with race.
But have everything to do with making it easier to vote and harder to cheat.
Democrats know this.
We must have fair and ethical elections.
We must never federalize elections.
And fighting words at the end of your tweet, Attorney General, you said, not on my watch.
Why is the potential federalization a la Nancy Pelosi of state elections so very, very dangerous?
This may be, H.R.
1 may be the worst bill I've ever seen for America.
Because what they would do is federalize these laws.
We lost you there for a second.
These would federalize what?
They would basically be federalizing state election law.
And so all of these laws that we passed in our state to prevent fraud would all go away.
They would allow voter harvesting.
They would allow mail-in ballots.
Everywhere.
Every law that we've put in place to protect our elections and make sure they're fair, and there's no fraud, would all of a sudden go away and the feds would control our elections.
Now, you were part and parcel of that seminal potential case after the election that was completely rejected by the Supreme Court, that punted their responsibility just as much as the Democrats did.
How much faith do you have that the legal system at the state, municipal and national level can actually vouch safe our elections, Attorney General?
You know what?
It's a coin toss.
Sometimes it seems like they step up and do it, and other times they don't.
And I don't know, if we end up with these election laws, which I think are completely unconstitutional, I don't know what the Supreme Court will do.
All I know is that if they pass them, and they try to force my state to adopt laws that allow for fraud, rampant fraud, we're going to go sue, and we're going to try to fight it.
Well, if there's one state that we can trust to fight for their sovereignty, it is the Lone Star State.
Follow this man at Ken Paxton TX.
Last 30 seconds we have with you, Attorney General.
What is your message to those who aren't supporters of President Trump, aren't Republicans?
Why should they also be concerned with these issues?
Look, I don't believe in a one-party system.
If we don't have competition, Whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, if we don't have choices, and the elections are basically rigged, then it definitely will affect every American, whether you're Republican or Democrat, and there'll be corruption.
Whatever party has no competition, there'll be corruption.
So, I don't think that's what most Americans want, whether they're Democrat or Republican.
I think they want honesty and integrity in government.
Thank you for fighting for that honesty and integrity.
That's the Attorney General of the great state of Texas.
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I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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We can arrest the Democrat lawmakers.
Larry Elder.
Larry Elder wants to save California.
And then Alberto.
This time it's different.
Cuba.
Larry Elder wants to save California.
And then Alberto...
Yes.
This time it's different?
Cuba.
This time it's different.
Wow.
What?
Nothing.
What's wow?
We're just so efficient, you know?
Getting stuff done.
We are, we are.
We were right through that first hour.
I know.
It's not over yet!
Almost.
It's not over yet.
Come on, you have Larry Elder cram about 20 minutes of radio.
I know, my gosh.
Larry!
So good.
Silly songs with Larry.
Silly songs with Larry.
I love that.
Can you come in with, uh, cut eight?
Cut eight?
Oh, from yesterday.
Sorry.
Yesterday's cut eight.
Wait for the disclaimer.
Wait for the disclaimer!
Yesterday's Fauci cut eight.
Yes.
Got it.
24 seconds long.
Wait for the disclaimer.
20 seconds!
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I know you've been very clear that the government isn't mandating vaccines, but do you think it's generally a good idea for businesses or schools to require vaccinations?
Right.
I have been of this opinion, and I remain of that opinion, that I do believe at the local level, Jake, there should be more mandates.
There really should be.
We're talking about life and death situation.
No, we're not actually, Fauci.
We're talking about a virus that killed 0.3% of those who caught it, mostly over the age of 80, with underlining comorbidities.
So you're lying yet again.
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But the big news of the day is Larry the Sage.
Your reaction.
Let's go to Jim in California, line 5.
Hello, Seb.
Thanks for taking my call.
You're welcome.
I'm supporting Larry Elder and I'm tired of all the political stuff going on in this state for the left and the homelessness and all that.
But if they come around knocking on my door to take the shot, I'll give them a shot.
I might punch them.
I ain't taking the shot.
I don't want it.
I don't need it.
I fear God more than I fear that virus.
Me neither.
I'm not taking it.
God bless you, Jim.
My body, my choice.
Jim's body, his choice.
Alan, line one.
Yeah, as far as Larry Elder goes, I listen to him.
I totally support him.
Can you keep up with him?
Those three hours of radio, that's heavy-duty stuff, isn't it, Alan?
I'm telling you, he's got it going on.
I mean, he's just magnificent.
And aside from being excited, I am relieved that we're finally, you know, little by little, state by state, maybe we're going to get back into control here.
And that would be awesome.
That would be totally, totally awesome.
Never give up, never give in.
Thank you, Alan.
Stan, Los Angeles, line two.
Well, I wasn't calling about Larry, but I'm a big Larry supporter.
I've listened to him for years and I think what I called about was that the media blaming Trump for Cuba.
I think he should be happy.
I think he It's a great thing if you take credit to overthrow some socialist communists.
It's incredible, Stan.
They're trying to blame the last administration for the events in Cuba.
Which means what, Stan?
They want the regime to stay in power, Stan!
Exactly.
You know, here's somebody who offers The mainstream media, the Democrats, want the communists to stay in power.
That's what it means.
God bless you, Stan.
Well, Larry's got a lot of buddies in California and outside.
Let's pray for him.
Let's support him.
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Conrad. - Good.
Yes, sir.
Greatly enjoying it.
I took your second autobiography on my cruise while I was away last month.
Greatly enjoying it.
Oh, you mean Matter of Principle?
Yes.
Did you like it?
Good.
I did, and especially the... I don't know if it was an epigraph or the last chapter, but your summation on the problems with the American legal system, just shocking.
Very powerful.
Very powerful.
No, look, it's a great country, but really an evil justice system.
Well, just the stats on prosecution, just the stats on, what is it, 92, 93% conviction, it's obscene.
Yeah, and 97% of those cases were without a trial.
It doesn't intimidate the accused.
Well, and the thing that you point out, especially with your personal experience, is just this plea bargain where people just will invent anything to get out of it.
Yes.
Yes.
And they give the cooperating witnesses an absolute immunity.
Right.
You're incentivized to lie about other people.
Exactly.
I mean, it's really, it's a disgrace.
You know, it's a wonderful country and it's right to be proud of what it's done for Democracy and the rights of man, but its own justice system is a self-inflicted reduction of the country's credibility.
Do you have any theory what that came from, given how many Brits were involved in the creation of our legal system, where the perversion began?
Yeah, I think that, look, this is a complicated issue, but broadly speaking, The two key turning points.
I mean, the United States had a conviction rate like Britain or Canada was around two-thirds of people, but, you know, a third of them are found not guilty, you know?
I mean, prosecutors aren't perfect.
Sometimes they do charge innocent people.
And until two things happen... Hang on.
I need to know what those two things are.
Let's discuss them in the next break because we're live in 10 seconds.
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You're listening to America
First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump. - Thank you.
He's one of our regulars, a stalwart, one of your favorites, co-host along with VDH and Bill Bennett of the podcast Intelligence and Common Sense, and usually I praise him for his political works, his presidential histories, but Lord Conrad Black's second memoir, The Matter of Principle, well I took it with myself on my week away on my cruise and enjoying it immensely.
I'll maybe touch upon some of the issues raised there, but I wanted everybody to know if you want a good read, A Matter of Principle by Lord Conrad Black.
And Lord Black, welcome back to America First!
Thank you, Sebastian.
Always a pleasure to be with you.
We have to talk about your latest piece, American Greatness is the Democrats' topsy-turvy spin machine.
But since we just had the Attorney General of Texas on Ken Paxton, I'd like your reaction to this little video clip.
Regarding what's happened in Texas with local lawmakers fleeing of the state to facilitate or rather to undermine the political functioning of their statehouse.
Here's Governor Abbott of Texas on what the Democrats are doing there.
Cut one.
Do we have that?
Thank you.
Thank you.
Cut one.
We don't have cut one, so let me summarize it.
Lord Black, we have more than two dozen Democrat lawmakers on a private jet, maskless, leaving Texas to negate the quorum of the statehouse so that Texas cannot bring election reform measures.
Your reaction to that interpretation of representative democracy?
A sign of the utter moral bankruptcy of 90% of the Democratic Party.
And if I'm not mistaken, they're fleeing the state because if they remain in the state, the governor and the attorney general of Texas have the right to take them into custody and forcefully transport them back to the legislature in Austin and require them to make up the quorum.
And so, I mean, when they're fleeing, In order not to make a quorum, which would enable those whom the entire population of Texas have chosen to be the state legislators, they are essentially fleeing the process.
They're just checking in, and in a completely undignified manner.
If they went individually on commercial airliners, claiming they were going to take a holiday in Canada or something, that'd be fine.
But it wouldn't be fine, it would be absurd, but at least it would be Less ludicrous than this business of them chartering a plane and fleeing like bank robbers.
Well, this is the second point.
And as the former head of Hollinger International with such amazing titles, the Daily Telegraph, the Jerusalem Post, under your domain, I need to tease out this question of
Self-awareness or strategic communications, not just simply the act they took, which negated their oath to represent their constituents, but Lord Black, to be on that private jet, on its way to the swamp, to DC, where Texas authorities couldn't touch them, and to take a selfie, Lord Black, and then to post it on social media, what does that speak of?
Well, it's like these lunatics that we saw last summer in Portland and in Seattle who imagined that directly promoting the physical destruction of federal buildings and being completely nonchalant about skyrocketing violence in the streets of those cities was a summer of love and just a perfectly reasonable thing to be encouraged.
I mean, I don't know what has possessed these people, but some madness, some sort of political Bill Harzia has seized some of these Democrats, where they think that the public actually is going to put up with, you know, slashing police budgets and announcing that all manner of ludicrous things and outrageous things are not done.
Burn America down, tearing down statues of some of the great figures of modern world history, that all of this is somehow suddenly acceptable to the American public.
They must be out of their minds!
But, you know, they became intoxicated with Trump hate, and they thought that by constantly pounding the idea that the incumbent president was a terrible and evil man, They would get a pass for a tremendous range of juvenile, destructive, nihilistic behavior.
And, you know, they effectively won a rigged election and then have failed to suppress the expressions of concern by those who look at it at all seriously and say, you know, there's potentially something really wrong in the outcome of the way votes were counted and cast.
that they would get a free pass on it all, and they could go on like this forever, like young, misbehaving children who think recess goes on all day.
We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
Follow him on Twitter, Conrad M. Black.
The book that I enjoyed so much on my week away is A Matter of Principle, his autobiography.
Let's go from Democrats fleeing Texas to Democrats in the swamp, Democrats in the mainstream media.
The news of the day for the last few days have been, of course, the events just 70 miles off the southern shore of the United States, the events in Cuba.
You're, you know, as a person who understands the media intimately,
Your reaction to not only the media but also the Biden administration looking at that footage and saying the Cubans are waving American flags because they're dissatisfied with the Cuban regime's COVID response and the lack of vaccines?
Pitiful and contemptible.
I mean, there's a struggle going on in the minds of tens of millions of people, including myself, as to whether pity or contempt reigns supreme in our response to it.
I mean, you know, I went to Cuba once upon a time, and that was on the 10th anniversary.
It happened to be on the 10th anniversary of Fidel's coming to power in January.
I went in 1969, ten years after he chased out Batista.
And when I left, the departing official said, well, will we see you, do you want to see Cuba again?
And I said, yes, for open bomb sites.
I was so horrified at what I saw then and everything.
What did you see?
Can you share with us?
Since then, it's just got worse.
Given that was a decade after the takeover, what did you see that's so horrifying?
Will you please share that with our listeners?
Well, at that time, the complete focus of the government was on getting the sugar production up, and they completely failed.
They never got back to Batista's record for production, and all the cars were falling apart.
They were tied together with rope and, you know, cloth and, you know, stretched-out towels and things, and the potholes on the main roads of Havana that formerly luxurious hotels when I stayed in.
They didn't have a seat on the toilet.
I mean, obviously, one can surmount these things, but it was a demonstration of an absolutely crumbling society.
And I went to Fidel's big oration, and my companion on that trip, she spoke Spanish.
I mean, my Spanish is very elemental.
And, for example, his speech went on for over two hours, nearly three hours.
And one of the highlights was he said he gave the flavors of ice cream that they now offer it.
He literally gave them, you know, we have strawberry, we have banana, and he went on about 30 flavors.
I mean, the whole thing was nonsense.
It was somewhere between a Kafka Orwell or Kessler novel and the Charlie Chaplin movie.
It was just a farce, but an evil farce, a violent farce.
Every block had a big sign saying Committee for Defense of the Revolution.
It was tropical totalitarianism.
I just found it horrifying because, you know, Havana is a beautiful city and the Cubans are, as we see in Florida, very capable and attractive people.
And they were there, too, but they sort of convinced themselves that Fidel's personality somehow justified what they were being put to.
Although, in fairness, I'm not representing the Batista regime as having been particularly distinguished.
It was a despotism, but not a totalitarian despotism.
Now, we have to ask the question, with historical perspective, in the last 62 years, is there something qualitatively different about what we are witnessing today?
I see some of the pictures of police officers not brutalizing the protesters and sometimes actually acquiescing to the protesters, perhaps An indicator that this could be the moment, but we shall wait and see.
We're talking to the author of, amongst other things, A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, Lord Conrad Black.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, back after these messages.
What took you to Cuba back then? - Hey, Just curiosity.
I just wanted to look at it.
You know, in those days it was seriously unpopular.
That's a regime everywhere in the United States.
Yes.
And by the way, I still think one of the greatest speeches President Kennedy ever gave was that one in the stadium in Miami when he said, we will return this flag to a free Havana.
I mean, we may be close to that now.
But I went with an open mind.
And I accept that they probably did improve a lot of some of the Most disadvantaged people in the country.
I would accept that.
But it was a much more severe dictatorship than Batista had.
And they lost 10 or 15 or 20 percent of their most talented people who are now, you know, a very important part of the success of Florida.
Right.
Which is, along with Texas, the most successful state in the country at the moment.
Tell me quickly the two reasons why you think it took a perverse bend?
I would say the change of the American criminal legal situation from its peers was the anxiety caused to the feminist movement who effectively adopted the idea that a huge number of men were basically rapists at heart.
And you've got a tremendous spike in the anxiety of women about their own physical safety.
And at the same time, those riots at Attica and San Quentin, and the activities of the Black Panthers and so on, mobilized a great deal of white opinion about the dangers of black radicalism.
And so it became a game Uh, for the different political leaders from right to left.
Uh, to raise the ante on cracking down on the drug scene and so on.
You know, three strikes and you're out of the election kind of thing.
But Nelson Rockefeller and Bobby Kennedy were just as hardline on these things as Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.
And there was no constituency for moderation.
It was, you know, longer sentences and more convictions.
And the prosecutors took advantage of that and corrupted the procedure.
And then the whole plea bargain and the testifying... Well, yeah, that came in with no discipline on the prosecutors at all.
There's nothing to prevent them from extorting or suborning false inculpatory testimony.
And there's no sanction when they're caught doing it.
In the famous Thompson case in Mississippi, you may remember, some guy was on death row for 10 years, and they knew the whole time that he was innocent.
They had the DNA evidence.
It finally came to light, and the Supreme Court and the federal court and the Court of Appeal upheld a million dollars a year payment from the state to this man, who no more committed the crime than we did.
And the Supreme Court threw it out and said that the sanction had to be If there was one, it had to be by the profession on the prosecutor, but not any liability to say, well, you know, if you're not going to penalize these people at all, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And the other thing is, having grown up in the UK, the idea that we don't have subjudice laws here, that the prosecutor can say whatever they want during the trial is just stunning.
All right, stand by.
Not only that, in Britain as in Canada, the judge has to hear the preliminary evidence to see if there's a reason for it.
Stand by.
Yeah, we're back.
The preliminary evidence is just a rubber stamp.
Yep.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What the law is, it's in the Constitution, and that is the House, the State House of Representatives, who are here in the Capitol in Austin right now, they do have the ability to issue a call to have their fellow members who are not showing up to be arrested, but only so long as that arrest is made in the state of Texas.
That's why they have fled the state.
Once they step back into the state of Texas, they will be arrested and brought to the Texas Capitol, and we will be conducting business.
That's the cut we were looking for.
The governor of Texas saying those Democrats who flee the state, as soon as they step back on the Lone Star State, they will be arrested.
And Frog marched back to the statehouse, because guess what?
They were elected to represent their constituents.
We are back with none other than Lord Conrad Black.
Follow him on Twitter at Conrad M. Black.
His latest piece, for those who are a little bit younger, we might have to explain the reference.
It is the Democrats' topsy-turvy spin machine at American Greatness.
Let's post it now on our Twitter and Facebook pages, amgreatness.com.
Expand, if you will, please, Lord Black, on your reference to Joe Biden's administration being akin to that amateur talent show, The Gong Show.
Well, look, I mean, everybody who has the slightest interest in public issues is aware that the illegal immigration is flooding into the country now at the rate of three million a year, according to the latest estimates from Homeland Security, at the same time that the cabinet secretary for that department Mr. Mayorkas is saying the southern border is closed.
And then, you know, on certain networks, you can see them.
You can just see them pouring in, walking across where the water's shallower or coming in overland.
And I mean, it's just nonsense.
It's make-believe.
Inflation is under control.
I see it.
The figures today indicate they're 5.4 percent.
But if you give gasoline and building materials and a few other things, they're Former and rightful place in estimating inflation for the average person in the average family, it's significantly above that and rising.
And everyone who buys anything knows it.
And everyone in urban America certainly is aware of the rising crime rate in practically every city.
And so, you know, we have these odd phenomena.
Suddenly, The Democrats claim to be the party that opposed defunding the police, when in fact every move to defund the police was a Democratic-sponsored measure.
Suddenly we have the grace of conversion, and the Democrats say that they're in favor of voter identification, having until a week ago declared it to be virtually tantamount to a return to slavery.
Jim Crow 2.0.
I mean, it's just a total flip-flop of the public position, as if nobody in the country, or at least no significant number of people in the country, I haven't had any notion of what it is like to do a U-turn in an important policy area, just a 180 degree turn.
So here's the question that I still cannot answer after the last five months, and you've written works on President Trump, FDR and Kissinger, where is, who is, sorry Nixon, who is The Harry Hopkins.
Who is the eminence Gris, negative or positive?
Who is the Kissinger for this administration?
Is there one?
Is there an apparent one at all?
Because these lists of critical race, Siri, defund the police, the Covid policies, it seems as if this is just chaos.
Yeah, look, I don't know any prominent person in that administration, so I'm not well qualified to say, but since you asked me, my guess is that In terms of who is filling whatever gaps there may be, President Biden's exercise of his office and the normal level of energy and consistency you expect from a president, it would be his wife.
She's a very energetic, capable woman, and I think actually rather an attractive woman.
I find her sort of an appealing personality, but I'm not someone who mocks or calls herself a doctor.
You know, an academic doctor is a perfectly acceptable thing.
Dr. Kissinger, Dr. Brzezinski.
I'm just not as learned as those men, but you know, it's all right.
So I think she kind of makes up for his lack of energy.
I don't want to be gratuitous, but you know, there's certain slips that he makes.
But behind the scenes, you know, my guess is the Chief of Staff, and in all my time of watching these things, which goes back to President Eisenhower, this guy, Klein, I think his name is, gets less public attention than any Chief of Staff that I remember.
I mean, you know, we remember James Baker and various others, you know, where Reagan succeeded him and Uh, you know, Mr. Nixon, Ed Haldeman, and so on.
These people were, you know, they were prominent and everyone knew their name and they were up in front of the media.
Klein is sort of a hidden hand.
But it is a terribly important position, and I've seen he's doing his job very efficiently.
And what do you make of those who say that, given all the second-tier Obama officials who are in this administration, that the influence of the 44th president is large and looming on this administration?
Well, look, it appears to me that the so-called Biden-Sanders unity program, far-left program, I mean, a socialist program, Marxist is getting a little carried away, but socialist, you know, that essentially Biden is putting that program into effect.
The idea that he would be a moderating influence on the Sanders faction, which Senator Sanders himself only claims to represent about 35 or 40 percent of Democrats, that isn't happening.
And all we're getting is the Sanders, Warren, Ocasio-Cortez view of things now in the policy formulations of the administration and the Democratic leaders in the Congress.
And that's not where the public is.
So the wheels are going to come off this, and already are, in all four directions.
But in the meantime, everyone's in a kind of make-believe fairyland here, where the United States has suddenly become a woke, racially obsessed, self-hating, a bunch of deliberately unemployed, overcompensated Idlers and slackers.
I mean, this is not America and it's not going to last.
And if that transition occurs to Kamala Harris for whatever reason, do the woke isters, are they strengthened at that point?
Which faction comes out on top?
Look, I think that whatever may be said of Joe Biden, and I'm personally never forgiven him for what he did to my late friend Bob Bork, but He served 50 years in Washington, and he was chairman of an important committee.
And I think he was rather popular, and he is rather popular personally, including both Republicans who know him.
And he is, in his way, a somewhat substantial figure.
And Kamala Harris, in my opinion, is a complete opportunist.
I've never seen her or heard her.
Say anything in any circumstances that struck me as remotely intelligent.
I mean, she must be somewhat intelligent, but I've never seen any evidence of it.
And the performance of the last five months has done nothing to gain say that measure of the current vice president.
We're talking to the author of A Matter of Principle, as well as a president like no other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, Lord Conrad Black.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is AmericaFest.
So given that, I'm just curious, Conrad, to continue.
Given that, that there's no there, there, do you think for just personal career reasons she'd be more resistant to the more radical wing?
I don't, I wouldn't count on that.
No.
I mean, it seems to me that Well, you know, I'm no student of her career, but it seems to me that she's a total opportunist.
Yeah, no, utterly.
It's an empty vessel who's just about careerism.
But would she not see the radicals as a threat to her popularity, potentially?
She might.
I mean, she might.
Unless she's a complete idiot, she would eventually.
And, you know, you could certainly make the case she is a complete idiot from what we've seen of her.
But that would be a hasty conclusion.
I mean, I assume that to have got to where she is, you know, notwithstanding the relationship with Willie Brown and all the rest of it, she is in some ways a smart woman.
I assume that she is.
But, you know, I must say I've never heard her say anything intelligent.
No.
She makes Dan Quayle, who's a perfectly nice man, but he was much ridiculed when he was Vice President, she makes Dan Quayle sound like Franklin D. Roosevelt.
So Bork was a friend of yours?
Yeah, somewhat, and his widow.
And I thought he would have been a wonderful guy.
He's just a very kind man.
Yeah, yeah.
I just can't forgive him for what he did to Clarence Thomas.
I agree with that, too.
And now he's down to apologizing for not taking Anita Hill more seriously.
Incredible.
Yeah, it's a fuss.
Kamala saying that she was the kid on the bus who was not going to the right school.
You know, she went to West Mount Heights School in Montreal that I well know.
I'm from Montreal originally.
It's one of the best schools in Canada.
And, you know, I mean, the whole thing is made up.
I don't see anything genuine about any of them.
No, no.
Thanks again.
Lots of fun.
Thank you, Conrad.
All the best.
You're turning me into a sort of shouting monomaniac here.
Well, we try.
We try.
Makes for good radio.
All the best.
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
JCN?
Oh.
It's been a while.
Yeah, it's every other week.
Alright, what happened with cut one?
I can't hear you.
Hang on.
I can't hear you.
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Is Zacky Poo watching?
Do we think Zacky's watching?
Hey, Zach, it's so funny that you have to watch this show.
But it's even funnier when you go to CPAC.
And here's the video.
Is this Slate or Salon?
I can never remember because it's kind of irrelevant.
A sad failed non-journalist looking like a...
Pre-pubescent high schooler who is camping out at the biggest conservative convocation trying to get gotcha interviews.
But the Blaze had a different idea.
Video Cuts 12.
This is part one of the interception of little Zachy Petrizzo.
Play Cuts.
What do you think about the L.M.
riots of 2020?
Are you asking me questions?
Yeah, just asking you what you think about them.
I don't know who you are.
I'm sorry.
That's fine.
I'm just asking you a question.
As a member of the media, shouldn't you have a response to this?
Years-long riot?
No?
Nothing?
You have nothing to say?
I really don't know who you guys are.
I wish I did.
What's wrong with his voice?
- Do you care about the BLM rise that happened in 2020?
- American cities are burned down for an entire year.
- Well, I have to hear about the truth.
- Sorry?
- We're asking you about Black Lives Matter, what do you think?
- You have any comment on the fact that America was burned down for 90 months by Black Lives Matter.
- I really don't know who you guys are.
- It doesn't matter. - I wish I did.
- What's wrong with his voice?
Do you have any idea?
Is that a medical condition?
- I don't really.
I don't know what's wrong with his voice.
Just like he doesn't know who these people are.
That's really good.
Did you rehearse that?
Or was that off the cuff?
Of course not.
I'm a professional, Dr. Cheat.
Wow!
I didn't know you went to impersonation school.
I'm impressed.
I'm doing radio, but I can't do that.
There's more!
There's more!
Part 2.
Cut 13.
Like I said, I don't know who you guys are.
It doesn't matter.
You don't have a response to the question.
I don't know who you guys are.
Do you not have a brain?
Do you not pay attention?
Zachary, literally, you're just, you work for Salon.
We're asking Salon reporter an important question.
What do you think about the 2020 violent uprising around the country?
Are you the guy that was in the Capitol building on January 6th?
I was, yeah.
Is he putting that on?
I mean, are you the...
I can't even...
I'm a baritone, I think.
I can't even do that.
Are you the guy?
Are you the... How does he... Is that natural?
Say, please write this up.
Please write this bit of my show up.
Because I want the world to hear your voice.
Like that.
That's too funny.
You're really amusing.
But not in a good way.
Something that's amusing in a great way is... Did you see?
My old boss, I'm not allowed to say this, I say, my former boss, my former boss went to the UFC match, the reception from the audience, not only that, did you see some said, is that Mel Gibson?
And some said, yes, it is Mel Gibson!
He saluted the 45th President of the United States and he wasn't, did you see Mel?
Mel wasn't even in the good seats, he was like 12 rows back in the midst of the crowd, saw the President walk by, saluted him, respect!
And then some actress called Megan Fox was on the Jimmy Kimmel show and I'm not sure little old Jimmy was expecting this response from that erstwhile Hollywood starlet Megan Fox because she said something quite nice about President Trump.
Cut 9!
I was in a row with Bieber and Trump was also in my row.
Oh!
And yeah, and I've never seen Secret Service in person before.
So we had like 30 Secret Service with him and he was a legend.
That arena like was very supportive of Trump when he came in.
And it was just I was like, I don't know how I feel about it, because if someone is a target, then I'm like, I can be harmed like because I'm adjacent to where he is.
So I was worried about my own safety.
That's all I was caring about.
But yeah, I've never seen anything like that before, but it was crazy.
Well, of course she immediately went to, am I safe?
But she did actually say, he's a legend.
He was a... I thought that was a British phrase.
Is that an American phrase?
To say a legend?
I love that.
Megan Fox on Kimmel calling President Trump a legend.
I'm pretty sure she won't get invited back.
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Patrizio?
That's where the voice is way worse.
Yeah.
Can you find who that girl is that plays?
That's his nervous tick by the way.
Yeah?
But that's what he did with me!
I found an interview with him two years ago.
But that's what he did with me.
Yeah, I know.
That's the same thing.
But I found an interview with him two years ago when he was supposedly a conservative.
Yeah.
He doesn't talk like that at all.
And the best part, guess what he was making fun of?
People that have a problem with toxic masculinity.
No.
Yeah.
Well, that was one thing.
I remember I was watching the other videos.
I'm sure you saw the videos that Fuentes and his people found Patrizio.
No.
Oh, yeah.
They were at CPAC, too, before they got kicked out.
And they found him and started him and started yelling at him.
At one point, they all just started chanting, soy, soy, soy, soy.
And I was like, all right, that's pretty funny.
Yeah, but did you look at those guys?
Did you look at the Nick Fuentes kids?
Oh, yeah.
Those guys were like 12 years old and didn't have chins.
It was wild.
Yeah, they're not ones to talk.
Can you find those?
Which?
With the interviews?
Or... The interviews?
The videos!
No, the videos of... Oh, the Fuentes.
Fuentes' guys.
They're just from the same Twitchy article.
Let me find them real quick.
Um, what am I needing now?
You are doing Pillow.
But I'm, at the end of this, doing... American Finance.
Yeah.
Did I do that already today?
Nope.
Uh, you did the embed.
They bought embed and live read.
Yeah.
Okay.
Hey, Zach, you watching? - Mm-hmm.
How's the voice?
I can't even do it.
It kind of cracks.
Are you Sebastian Gorka?
Were you there?
Were you there?
How do you even do that?
Strange.
Yeah, Elijah Schaefer.
I thought I had seen that name around before.
Who's that?
That's the guy who tweeted like all those videos.
No, no.
I want the girl who was asking questions.
Oh, the girl.
Yeah.
Not sure.
Sure, let me see. 45 seconds. 45 seconds. 45 seconds. let me see. 45 seconds. 45 seconds. 45 seconds.
Standing by.
Standing by.
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Crude and slow, snowflake.
Yet attack was no better than that of a clumsy child.
Is he talking about Zachy?
I think he is, a clumsy child.
Nicely done there, nicely done.
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Who is bankrolling the Texas Democrat's private jet to DC?
I wonder.
That's a very good question.
Who is funding it?
Let's go to your calls.
Phil from Philly, line two.
It's been too long.
Welcome back, Phil.
Thank you.
Thank you, Dr. G. Just a question about how the press relentlessly kept asking about denouncing white supremacy.
Every week, that's all you heard.
Denounce, denounce, denounce.
I was wondering if maybe our press people can start on the thing about, are you trying to destroy America?
Do you want to destroy America?
Was this action that you just did, was that an attempt to destroy America?
Dr. G, if they say no, they lose the left.
If they say yes, they lose their job.
People can see who they actually are.
I like that.
But who's going to ask the question, Phil?
You've got to have a pair of brass ones when you're in those pressers.
Jen, does the president want to destroy America?
Or the squad.
Ask the squad.
That's so good.
That's so good, Phil.
We love you, Dr. G. Am I Sally Batts or what?
You paint them into a corner, right, Phil?
You paint them into a corner!
It's genius!
Show America their true colors.
And somebody should ask Bernie Sanders, if the Kremlin gave you the exact same job, exact same pay, with the exact same house, the exact same cars, would you go to Russia?
Oh, that's good, too.
Because you know the answer.
You know the answer.
Well, I'd like to hear it from him.
Yes!
It's time.
It's time to step up to the plate.
Play hardball and force them to either deny it and then they lose the crazies or to admit it and then everybody knows who they are.
But you know what they're gonna do, Phil?
They're just gonna waffle.
They're just gonna waffle.
Hey, Dr. G, what about putting a bill in front of the House of Representatives, the Pledge of Allegiance bill, where those people in that Congress have to say the Pledge of Allegiance every day?
And if you don't, you're dismissed from your...
You're on fire, Phil!
What got into you?
you i'm president trump they cut him on youtube i couldn't even watch his his uh campaign thing i was so upset i mean they he i can't wait till his class action lawsuit goes through and he rams rams one right on him how many people like you phil are there in philly a lot more than you'd think a lot more than you'd think a lot more than you'd think a lot A lot more than you'd think.
I mean, this is a Democrat-controlled town, but there's a lot more than you think, and a lot more people are leaning to realize what's happened.
I told a bunch of my friends out on the street, I said, oh yeah, Trump, no, no Trump, no Trump, no Trump.
I said, really?
I said, guess what Putin said?
Putin said he's cutting Uber Eats, Grubhub, and GoPub.
They said, well, this is war!
We're gonna go to war now!
Yeah, that's what they really care about.
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Let's go to Tennessee.
John, line one.
Dr. Gorka, thank you for taking my call.
It is great to talk to you again.
You're very welcome.
I used to call you from the People's Republic of Maryland.
So what's happened?
It says you're in Tennessee now, John.
Yes sir, I have escaped.
I've slipped away from my masters and given myself a huge pay raise by getting out of that state.
So tell us, what was the final straw?
What made you leave Maryland?
Basically the political environment turning completely anti-law enforcement where they started the cater to the Black Lives Matter movement and You know, doing anything possible to make the jobs of law enforcement harder.
I had retired from there last year, and one of the things the legislature did recently up there was to take away the officers' Bill of Rights, which was a basic protection for police officers.
And that just is handwriting on the wall that they're not interested in law-abiding citizens, they're more interested in In the criminal element.
It's a state that still has three seasons and it also has a superb tax environment.
They don't tax my pension and they don't have a state income tax when I go ahead and get another job.
And that just means more money in my pocket in the long run.
And what are you finding?
Are you talking politics with your new neighbors?
What are you finding in Tennessee?
Conservatives.
Conservatives.
And actually, it's kind of funny, the first neighbor that I met, he was kind of tentatively asking me, and he was very relieved to find out that another conservative had moved in next door to him.
And what about your family?
What about your family's reaction?
Because that's, you know, Maryland to Tennessee, that's a big shift.
It's basically a two-thirds of a day drive to get back and forth.
Oh yes, it is definitely a big shift.
I supported the move.
They said, you know, we're going to miss you, but we understand your reasons for it.
And who knows?
Maybe we'll come join you.
I could be like the test case.
All right.
Evaluate things.
At least now we know when it's John from Tennessee who it is.
Thank you for the update.
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That was text two.
Thank you.
You asked me.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, uh, title for black.
Talked a lot about Cuba.
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Haven't had a chance to look at it yet.
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What have you been wearing glasses?
Are you now officially old?
No, it's the stupid mic.
I thought I was having a problem with my contacts and he thinks it's the blue mic.
Ah, what do you think?
What do you think?
The improvement?
Looks good.
Is he suddenly... Looks terrible.
Looks like he's traumatized.
Not quite.
I agree, Geoff looks better without glasses.
I got you, Geoff.
Alright, can all of you read that tonight?
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Sharon, welcome to America First.
Oh, it's good to hear your voice, Dr. G. Likewise, likewise.
Yes.
Um, well, I heard I just heard Phil on, you know, from Philly.
Yes.
You know, I agree.
I mean, I've lived in Philly for about 40 years because, oh, I don't know, I was an Air Force brat, you know, and then I went in the Air Force, met my husband, that's how I ended up here in Philly.
What did you do in the Air Force?
I was an aircraft mechanic.
Cool, so you can MacGyver anything, right?
I'm sorry, what?
You can MacGyver anything.
You can fix anything.
Pretty much, yes.
Yes, exactly.
Or if I can't, I'll call somebody who can.
That was my job.
So how many people like you?
Do you agree with Phil that Philadelphia has more patriots than we think?
I do not know.
Out of all of my friends in Philly, I don't know a single person that did not vote for Trump in this past election.
And you've got a lot of friends.
So what's the issue?
Is it fraud?
Is it stealing elections?
Yes, I do.
Oh, friends are overrated.
I got a couple of really good ones.
So what's the issue?
Is it fraud?
Is it stealing elections?
Or is it people who are just afraid to say what they believe in?
Well, I think now it's the fraud.
You know what I mean?
Actually, a couple friends of mine went down January 6th, and with this whole insurrection thing.
I never heard that.
We never heard anything like that.
What happened to your friends?
Did they get harassed by the FBI?
No, no.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe we were too far away.
We were not near the Capitol.
I don't really know where we were, but we were there, and we'd gotten a room for the night.
Like, you know, we see a couple cop cars go by, we don't think anything of it.
We get back to the hotel, we're like, what is going on, you know?
A lot of things left unanswered about that day.
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This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
What is live radio?
What kind of a thing is it?
Is it a science?
Is it an art form?
Is it something else?
I have no idea, because I've just been doing it for such a short time.
Chad, is there a mystical quality to radio, or is it more mathematical?
I think that there's an ether to it, you know?
It's just kind of incomprehensible, incomporeal, but it's also regimented, right?
It's like gas, but it's inside of a box.
So it can change its state.
What do they call those things that go straight from solid to gas?
There's a scientific term for that.
I'm a history major, Dr. G. All right, all right.
I stumped you there.
But I need to know, is there a scientific... because this is the thing I always find myself... there's something we did yesterday and I want to return to it today.
What is the rule on that?
When can you and can't you do that?
Or is it just kind of a...
As long as you think it's important to talk about, right?
What do people need to know?
Okay, they need to know what Kamala Harris is really like, and I think one half a segment on this yesterday just isn't enough.
So I'm gonna play it again, or I'm gonna ask Eric, the man behind me, to play this cut which tells you who she is, play cut.
Is agreeing to voter ID one of those compromises that you'd support?
I don't think that we should underestimate what that could mean.
Because in some people's mind, that means, well, you're going to have to Xerox or photocopy your ID to send it in to prove you are who you are.
Well, there are a whole lot of people, especially people who live in rural communities, who don't, there's no Kinko's, there's no Office Max near them.
People have to understand that when we're talking about voter ID laws, be clear about who you have in mind and what would be required of them to prove who they are.
Of course people have to prove who they are, but not in a way that makes it almost impossible for them to prove who they are.
like getting a photocopier because that's important i mean that's like going to mars right i mean totally okay the word is sublimation i forgot it but it's sublimation solid to gaseous form sorry guys okay so i need to unpack that because i kind of missed maybe a thing an aspect of that yesterday guys help me out here who is she talking about when she's talking about Rural communities that don't know how to photocopy.
Is that poor people?
Is it poor white people?
Is it ethnic minorities?
Let's start with Eric.
Can we even enter that vacuous cranium and work out who is Kamala actually talking about?
If I had to take a wild guess, just because you know she can't help herself.
She would love to bash Trump voters any chance she gets.
I think she is talking about like the white rural working class.
But it doesn't make sense because it's a voter ID issue.
And that's supposed to be about suppressing minorities, isn't it?
The only other thing I can think of is that maybe she's putting that out there as a way to try to alienate Trump's base from himself.
To say like, oh, look, Trump's...
There's no double, triple bluff with this woman.
I'm sorry.
She hasn't got two brain cells to rub together.
I don't buy that.
Mr. G, who do you think she's talking about?
I have no idea, because she's trying to fight something and have a problem with it, that up until November of last year was the law.
And more people, can I just, for the record, in addition to the KKK being a Democrat organization and Abraham Lincoln being the first Republican president ever, I need people to understand, more people voted last year in America than in the history of our republic.
So who's suppressing who exactly?
Shad, can we even answer the question?
Who is she talking about?
The mind of our vice president is an enigma, you know?
It's an esoteric thing that's impossible to truly nail down.
What I'm thinking is like a Schrodinger's voter, right?
It just depends on who you really, it like just depends, you know?
You ask her this time, you ask her that time, she'll give you a different answer.
Here's the question.
Does she know?
An enigma?
Wrapped in a mystery?
Okay, stop it.
Okay, let's get serious.
It's related, okay, because it's kind of, you know, privacy issues and IDs.
This is from the Daily Wire, Tim Pearce.
The Democratic National Committee and other allies of Joe Biden are pushing social media companies and cell phone SMS carriers, that's a short message system, the text system, text carriers to censor Vaccine disinformation spread on their platforms.
So, not just social media, on your phone, if you're sending a text to somebody about vaccines, they want the phone company to censor you.
The White House said yesterday, what day is it today?
What day is it?
The 13th.
Day of the week?
Tuesday.
Okay, that's today.
The White House said Tuesday that it intended to adopt a, quote, door-to-door vaccination awareness strategy, an announcement that raised alarm amongst many that the federal government was tapping into private medical records because you'd have to.
and sending federal agents to the homes of the unvaccinated.
The White House has since clarified the operation, saying that it targets communities where vaccination rates are low and uses local, quote, trusted messengers, not federal agents.
Psaki has denied having access to private medical records.
Then how do you know where to go?
How do you know where to go if you're not accessing information that is federally protected under the HIPAA medical records laws?
So here's the question to the team, our vast team, our huge, huge legion of workers here, employees.
Is this going to be The big deal that I think it's going to be?
The idea of going house to house, knocking on doors to get people vaccinated and then getting cell phone companies to censor your texts?
Let's go in the reverse order.
Let's start with Shad.
Well first I want to shout out Tim Pierce, who wrote the article, Hillsdale College grad, great report.
Ah, gotta fly the flag.
Gotta fly the flag, gotta fly the flag.
Look.
What we're seeing is the construction of like a total state apparatus of control, right?
Because at this point, when you're talking about text messages, right?
This is just basic communication between two people.
Nobody is sitting there thinking, when I'm using my text message, this is something that's going to appear in front of a government office, right?
Which, you know, if you're thinking that, then you should probably wake up a little bit, because that's probably true.
But at the same time... But what stops them doing it with a letter?
If I do an anti-vax letter, can they open my letters?
Well, considering that the post office is technically a, you know, crime-fighting organization, they have cops in the post office with guns, that's not out of the question, right?
And if you're viewing somebody as unvaccinated as somebody who's a threat to multiple lives, you know, this is a life-and-death situation, as Dr. Fauci said earlier on the show today, Then anything is permissible!
So, is this going to be a big thing for patriots?
I would 100% say so, especially if they can just go to your door, ask you if you want to be vaccinated.
If you say no, that means they have you on file!
Jeff, is this a big deal?
I think this is good news.
For us.
For us, right?
No, I'm serious.
Unpack that.
I just think if you get into it, it talks about really what they're trying to do is these online petitions and things like for the right that are being sent around in these private messaging groups.
It's another action that they're doing.
Everything they can do to try and stop our side, it's because they can't win.
That's why they're doing all this.
The social media censorship.
The corporations not donating to Republicans, all the stuff that we've seen.
Thorwin Fitz flying out of the state over voting laws.
They're nervous about what's going to happen in 2022.
That's good.
I like that.
Eric, big deal or not big deal?
I wish I could say this was a big deal, but you know what?
I feel that the American population as a whole is just so subdued that these kinds of things don't surprise them anymore.
I would have thought the big thing would be literally a whole year of I'm gonna allow for a response, Mr. G, to Eric, your response.
heights being taken away for a year.
I thought that would have woken people up, but apparently it didn't.
So I really hope I'm wrong, and I hope Jeff's assessment is right, but for the time being, I think this is just going to be one more step they're going to take that.
Will, some on the right will report on it, but by and large, it's going to be under the radar.
I'm going to allow for a response, Mr. G, to Eric, your response.
He says, that's it after last year.
Forget about it.
What's that?
Sorry, I was jumping off.
No, no, I know you were working hard back there.
Eric, as usual, trusted, source of negative energy, said it's not a big deal because after people saying yes to closing down businesses, this just doesn't matter.
I think people did have a problem with that.
I mean, I'm not exactly sure 2020 was exactly what you would think if you looked at the numbers.
And 2022 is going to be big, I think.
2022 is going to be big.
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I'm just curious where the leftists are.
Where the what?
Where the leftists are on this one.
Has that ever happened to the hippie coalition?
Sorry about that.
I couldn't hear you.
Sorry about that.
No, sorry.
No, no.
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Oh, the meme masters are at it again.
I'm just scrolling through my tweets and that photograph of the Texas reps on their private jet.
I'm looking at one.
Somebody's put them all in prison jumpsuits.
That's pretty good.
I like that.
But even better, you sneaky little meme masters, you.
There's one It's really good.
I mean, it's better than Photoshop.
The photograph of those Texas reps with all wearing masks that say, Make America Great Again.
That's better.
Let's get serious about the issue because it is a serious issue with a good friend of America First, former Attorney General for the great Commonwealth of Virginia and former Deputy Secretary for the Department of Homeland Security under the Trump administration, none other than Ken Cuccinelli.
Ken, welcome back to America First.
Hey, good to be with you again.
So we have to talk about a recent poll of Americans asked about their expectations on voter and election integrity and what you're doing jointly with two great organizations, the Susan B. Anthony List and the American Principals Project.
But let's start with the news of the day.
Your reaction to what these Texas reps are doing.
They want to make it impossible for the statehouse to take a vote on election integrity.
So what do they do?
Somebody paid for it.
They jumped on a private jet without their masks and ditched Texas to fly to Washington.
Field trip.
Yeah, we're judging by the beer.
Road trip.
Yes, it's, you know, it's a stunt.
And as Governor Abbott's made very clear, it'll be treated as a stunt.
When they get back, they'll have work to do.
And he can just keep calling 30-day special sessions.
And what are they going to do, stay out of Texas forever?
I mean, as I recall, 20 years ago, when they did this during that decade, they do this once a decade for the Democrats in Texas.
Rick Perry, then the governor, just kept calling special sessions until the work was done.
So I think you can fully expect that this stunt will run its course.
In about two or three days, they'll get bored of Washington, and Washington will get bored of them.
But as somebody who's lived in the swamp, who fought the swamp creatures, just the fact that they don't just do that on a private jet with their keg of beer.
They're taking selfies and grinning about it.
Doesn't that just demonstrate utter disdain for their constituents, Ken?
Oh, I'm sure it rankles back home.
I mean, frankly, the polling in Texas on their first walkout, because remember, folks, this is the second time they've done this, though this is far more premeditated.
Only 27% of Texans supported their action the first time.
I can only think that number is going to go down.
It's hard to imagine it going up.
So, you know, they're not scoring any points for themselves on this.
You mentioned the polling.
Let's look at a recent poll which sees 78% of American voters favor stronger voter ID laws.
So what are we talking about, Ken?
Is this just theater for the masses?
Yeah, and the maskless?
Yes, on the private jet.
It is theater.
This is when they walked out the first time, they trooped up to Washington and, you know, tried to meet with Joe Manchin, he wasn't available, and various Democrat senators.
So they sort of filibuster Texas and go urge the Democrats in Washington to get rid of their filibuster and, oddly enough, take over their elections.
I think this is probably driving some of the conservative Democrats, and they still exist in Texas.
There are none left in Virginia, but they still exist in Texas.
And when you combine this with what this administration is doing at the border, or maybe more accurately, not doing, And those are those Democrat areas along the southern tier of Texas are most affected by that.
You keep adding this stuff up and you're going to start defeating some Democrats in what were thought to be relatively safe Democrat seats.
Right.
I think that's where this is headed.
All right.
Let's talk about what we can do about the next election year.
You are now the National Chairman of the Election Transparency Initiative, along with the Susan B. Anthony List.
Tell us what that organization is doing and how the task ahead, how we can actually do concrete things in the next few months.
Sure.
So electiontransparency.org is where you find us on the web, electiontransparency.org.
And people can follow me on Twitter, at Ken Cuccinelli, no spaces.
And I'm rallying on this stuff a good chunk of some days.
And what we're doing is two things.
We're fighting at the federal level to stop the federal takeover of elections, including working to preserve the filibuster.
And there, the over a million members of the Susan B. Anthony List and American Principles Project are absolutely critical to our ability to reach out to these congressmen and senators effectively and quickly.
And we have lots of experience doing it.
So it's a great tag team.
And then at the same time, out in the states, I mean, the state legislatures, we have 10 targeted states.
We do work in others, but 10 targeted states where we're working to support allied legislators who are looking to reform and clean up their elections in Florida, Texas, Arizona, Iowa and Georgia.
Are there all Republican states?
And then the split control states are Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
And in the Hail Mary in football analogy state is Nevada, which is one of the sloppiest states in the country in terms of its elections in recent years.
Both parties have had cause to complain about that at various times.
So that's a lot to cover, and we work very closely, being very careful not to overstep the organizations within these states that are our allies.
We tend to take a supporting role, though an aggressive one, because we bring an awful lot of grassroots firepower to the game, if you will, in these states.
And we've had success, as you've seen in Iowa, Georgia, Arizona.
All the states have improved their elections.
Tell us what the bare minimum is, what the commonality that these states have to ensure for the next election.
Sure.
So, first of all, people like you and me who care about this need to actually go be election officials.
It's actually, in my view, it's more important than any laws on the books.
Because, as we saw in the last election, you can have whatever laws on the books.
You can have transparency and oversight of counting, but if the officials don't let you in, what does that law matter?
So we need people who believe in election transparency and accountability to go become election officials in their state.
And we're doing that in Virginia now, trying to urge people to do this.
We have the biggest election In 2021, it's the governor's race in Virginia.
Could be.
I think the Republican Glenn Youngkin is likely to win it.
But not if it's not if there are problems with the election.
So we're swarming that election.
And it does work to do this.
While we didn't win the Georgia special election in the Senate, you did notice, if you watched closely, that the complaints about breaking the law and working outside of the election laws that existed dropped through the floor precipitously that the complaints about breaking the law and working outside of the election laws that existed dropped through the floor precipitously in that special election And because people were paying attention.
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Libertad!
I could watch that every single day, just the warm feeling it gives you inside when you see people call for liberty, freedom, representative government, and also wave the American flag at the same time.
How does it go from here?
What is the evolution of that event?
And what should America's response be?
Let's talk to somebody who Well, he's better qualified than most to talk on this position, on this geostrategic challenge.
Former coordinator for counterterrorism communications for the State Department, he is Ambassador Alberto Fernandez, currently Vice President of MEMRI, the amazing Middle East Media Research Institute.
Ambassador, welcome back to America First.
Thank you.
I'm delighted to be on with you.
So Alberto, you really are incredibly well positioned to discuss this, not only because of your family heritage, but because of your background additionally in military intelligence and in the State Department and elsewhere.
So talk to us about What the events in Cuba mean?
Is this substantively different?
Could this presage something more significant?
Or is it, as Stalin says, who cares?
We still have the tanks and the guns.
Well, certainly the regime is heavily armed and the regime has tanks and guns and militias and death squads.
People have been beaten to death.
On the streets of Havana over the last 24 hours So the violence the regime has has inflicted is is is something we're seeing but you do have a sense of Something breaking that as people on the streets of Cuba are saying the fear is breaking and you've had Demonstrations across the island in dozens of towns and
In Cuba's history, 62 years of dictatorship, there's been lots and lots of demonstrations, rallies, opposition, political prisoners.
There was a six-year insurgency in the 1960s against the Castro regime.
Peasants fighting in the fields, in the mountains against the regime.
But certainly we haven't seen something like this as widespread as what we've been seeing over the last two days in a very very long time correct me if i'm wrong you know better you've been following this for decades in those 62 years have we ever seen what we have seen in the last 48 hours which is elements of the police if not actively take part with I know what you're talking about.
but peaceably not intervene.
For me, that is a significant indicator that the regime may be losing control.
Am I reading too much into it?
I think it's maybe a little early.
I know what you're talking about.
There are a lot more images of security services cracking down on people and assaulting people and all of that.
But I agree with you that that is the key point where people who are connected to the regime pause and consider what they're doing and either don't take action or join the other side.
I know that parents have actually called their children their young men who are in the Obligatory military service in Cuba and have told them whatever you do, don't repress the people.
You know, whatever you do, don't participate, don't get blood on your hands.
So that kind of discussion about what the heck is going on here is actually happening within Cuba, among Cuban families, among people with children, adult males in the security services, in the military.
Are you hearing things from those you know in Cuba that you haven't heard before as well?
I mean, for me, the shocking thing is just the sheer depth of it, the broad scale of it, the fact that it's the young, you know, it's people who are products of the regime, as they like to say, the new man, as the communists like to say.
They're the ones that are saying freedom.
They're the ones that are saying down with the dictatorship.
Uh, they are the ones in the street.
They are multi-ethnic, uh, you know, people of color, uh, all those buzzwords that people like to use.
Those are the people who are saying down with communism.
Well, that's not supposed to happen.
Homo Sovieticus or Homo Cubanicus shouldn't be revolting against the regime.
So, in fact, something truly exciting could be happening.
We will discuss further with Ambassador Alberto Fernandez of memory.
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Ambassador, We haven't spoken since this new administration came into power.
You are so well positioned to comment on the foreign policy and how it is communicated.
Let's start with this little clip from the first Chinese U.S.
summit since Joe Biden was sworn in.
Play cuts.
So for China, it was necessary that we make our position clear.
So let me say here that in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position the United States does not have the qualification to say that it
What does it mean in historic terms, Ambassador, that at the first summit of its kind, a couple of weeks into a new administration with our biggest global competitor, that the chief diplomat, the interlocutor, basically slaps our Secretary the interlocutor, basically slaps our Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, with the Democrats' own talking points?
What does that mean in terms of diplomacy and cause and effect?
Well, what it shows, I think, is a certain naivete on the behalf of our side that they haven't thought through.
Basically, you say this, what is your adversary going to do?
How are you going to respond?
You game this out.
You think it through.
You realize that you're going to be tough with them and that they're going to respond a certain way and you're ready for it.
And I think based on my sources at State today, and I've spoken to several people, there was a certain naivete in the new team coming in thinking that we're not Trump.
Everybody's going to love us.
Everything's gonna be fine.
You know, kind of a superficial look at the way the world works that kind of transposed domestic issues or domestic politics on the international stage.
That was a big miscalculation.
And the latest statement by Antony Blinken, the chief diplomat for the United States, where he said, he hopes, I mean it was strange, it was in this timorous tone where he said, he sincerely hopes that the Cuban regime doesn't draw conclusions such that they want to blame America for what's happening.
They've been blaming America for 62 years.
But look, I mean, we need to be, I think, have modest expectations.
It could have been so much worse.
There are people in Washington, people, political types, who want to reward the regime in Cuba for repressing its people.
You would think, you have repression, you're going to talk about More sanctions.
You're going to talk about consequences.
But no, there are people rushing to say we need to reward the same regime that is arresting people, locking them up, killing them on the streets of Havana.
This is crazy.
When it comes to rewarding dictators and dictatorial regimes, your expectation, is it going to happen?
Is the Biden-Harris regime going to reward the greatest state sponsor of terrorism by re-enacting the JCPOA Iran deal?
Well, all the indications are that we're headed towards that direction and that would be extraordinarily Bad for our country, bad for the region.
It would be a financial windfall for our enemies, not just in Tehran.
Tehran and its militias and death squads in Lebanon and Syria and Iraq and elsewhere in the world.
So I hope that that doesn't happen, but it doesn't look very good.
And when it comes to other threats and threat groups in the last couple of minutes we have with you, Ambassador Fernandez, should we should we still be worried by groups like Al-Qaeda and ISIS that seem to have been out of the news for at least four years now?
Yes, we should, because basically all of the building blocks that led to the rise of Al-Qaeda first and then ISIS are in place.
All of the political, socio-economic, intellectual Ideological trends, they exist.
Yes, the physical caliphate was heavily damaged and people were killed, but right now they are stronger than they were before they began their rise.
In other words, they've been weakened, but all of the building blocks are there for a resurgence when they have that space to do so.
Whether that space is in the Middle East or in Africa, Or online, they're ready to take advantage of it.
They want to survive until they see there's an opportunity that they can flow into and take advantage of.
And what in the last minute we have with you is the most important thing to discuss about the global jihadi movement that we are not discussing Ambassador?
Well, that it continues to be it's an ideological construct.
It's about a specific worldview.
It gives, it's both, you know, extremely violent and intolerant and all of this, but also gives meaning to people and that there is a search for meaning that exists among peoples in the world, in the Middle East and in other parts of the world.
And, you know, nature abhors the vacuum and that's going to be filled by something.
It's going to be filled by communism or by Antifa or by ISIS or whatever.
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Hey, uh, Shad, did I just get something wrong while I was traveling in faraway lands, or is it true that the mainstream media are saying, CRT isn't real, it doesn't exist?
Did that really happen?
It really did.
And not only that, but multiple political candidates are also saying that.
Huh!
It was invented!
It was invented by none other than...
Donald Trump?
Wow!
That's just wacky!
I don't think that's true!
Let's listen to somebody who knows, because he's done the most of the heavy lifting.
Our good buddy Chris Rufo, who has some interesting data.
Cut 10!
The critical race theorists tell us that whiteness is inherently oppressive, racist, white supremacist, and this book is really outrageous.
They depict whiteness as the devil luring children into a sense of racial identity.
This is totally inappropriate, and it's being taught to kids as young as four and five years old.
And the latest numbers, Jesse, are in.
I've now had whistleblowers tell me that it is being taught in 30 school districts in 15 states.
Hang on.
Something that doesn't exist is being taught in schools in 30 districts?
How does that work?
I'm confused.
Maybe the media is lying.
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Welcome, dear friends, dear friends, to a very special edition of America First with a gentleman who shouldn't require any introduction.
Full disclosure, my former boss at Breitbart, where I was national security editor under him, and then in the White House, where he served as chief strategist while I was strategist to the president.
He is none other than Steve Bannon.
Steve, welcome back.
Thank you, Seb.
I was never your boss.
You were always my partner, both at Breitbart and in the White House.
You stayed, you were courageous enough to be country longer than I was.
Well, we did have some spicy editorial meetings and we did fight the good fight inside the White House, inside the People's House.
First things first, for those who... Alright, we'll get to you in a second.
Can I ask... I'm gonna ask a personal question.
Where's the bloody Bannon book, Steve?
I'm fed up with scumbags like Michael Wolff writing pieces of fiction and other people attacking the MAGA, you know, the key MAGA figures.
Are you ever gonna write a book about Steve Bannon and his vision?
When we're all finished.
I've got too much work to do now.
The story... We don't know the end of the story, so let's just keep... Be like right now, World War II, right after Wake Island.
Alright.
We're not writing a book in the midst of the battle, that's a good answer.
Okay, so for those who aren't familiar with you, who've been hiding under a rock for the last few years, who don't listen to War Room Pandemic, I'd like to introduce to our three million listeners and then all of our other viewers on Rumble elsewhere a little bit of the human side of the man who has been so lambasted by the mainstream media.
Will you tell those who are not familiar with the backstory of who the Bannons are, where you came from, what your family was in terms of the political milieu and also your prior life before politics?
Yeah, just it's, it's simple, you know, blue collar Irish working class family from Norfolk, Virginia.
We'd come over from Ireland to Boston and Baltimore, the port cities, but she got down to Norfolk and, uh, you know, uh, father started the phone company.
His dad worked there 50 years.
He worked there 50 years, started as a, in the, in the sewer as a, as a cable splicer, uh, and eventually became a foreman and then lower, uh, management, um, never went to college.
My mom, you know, graduated from high school.
Also never went to college.
They raised five kids on one salary in Richmond, Virginia.
All five kids went to college and graduated.
We all went to Catholic schools.
They sacrificed.
I went to a military prep school before college, and then right after college went into the Navy as a Naval officer.
First officer in the family.
We had a lot of Chief Warrant Officers and Chief Petty Officers enlisted in the Navy.
Some in the Army, principally in the Navy, because Norfolk's a Navy town.
I was the first officer, surface warfare officer, served on a sports class destroyer in the Pacific as originally a gang officer, as every engineer, and then a navigator in multiple tours in the Pacific, Persian Gulf, South China Sea, Persian Gulf, Indian Ocean, all of that, patrolling the Pacific and the Indian Ocean during the hostage crisis with Tehran.
And then went to, came back out of master's, came as special assistant chief naval operations, got a master's at Georgetown, went to Harvard Business School, graduate with honors, Goldman Sachs merger department.
Then I formed my own merchant bank, investment bank, back in the early 90s, banning the company and kind of had a pretty good run there.
Made enough money.
I started making, I made a film about Ronald Reagan in the face of Evolv, Peter Schweitzer's great book, Reagan's War, but still wasn't really engaged in politics.
And then the financial crisis happened and I said, This is a story I can understand pretty well and can tell.
I started making films about the Tea Party.
Met Palin and Bachman and Andrew Breitbart and everybody and just kind of became Andrew's partner, given my investment banking background, helped him get Breitbart financed.
And then when Andrew passed away, I stepped in for the investors and basically ran the company.
And then was called to work with President Trump in August of 16.
Went to the White House and kind of fighting this populist battle.
Really, since 2008, I guess, the financial crash, obviously come from the families, principally working class union Democrats, who a lot started voting for Republican candidates, but maybe didn't change the registration because of the Vietnam War, because of very pro-military and pro-USA.
So it's a pretty typical story.
My kid brother's a Navy pilot.
He married a Navy nurse.
You know, I've got my daughter, West Point grad, 101st Airborne in Iraq.
We've got a bunch of nephews that have served principally as enlisted guys.
I think the only other officers were my daughter.
And so big Irish Catholic family, always expanding.
You know, it's a very, very ordinary, typical American family with a very typical story.
But you look back and we're blessed.
You know, having known most of the wealthy and powerful people in the world, as I have known, I can tell you the most important thing in life is to have that solid family You know, two loving parents who are really focused on the children, who obviously love each other, and really focus on the family.
I've had the greatest blessings in life, and that's why, Seb, as you know, I know you've dedicated your life, given your story, to the fight for freedom here in the United States, and I've dedicated my life to that.
Like I said, it's a pretty basic, simple story, but I've been very blessed to have some opportunities, and take advantage of those opportunities, given my education and my And kind of my world experience.
And one thing I will say, I thought the other day, I was talking to someone, the reason I'm such a strong nationalist, unlike most of the globalists I know, at least that were around President Trump, I've actually traveled and served in the military or owned businesses or lived in, you know, Paris and in London and, you know, sold my firm to SACCHEN, Societe Generale de Banque, worked in London, buying Ambrose Bank for them, lived in, worked in Shanghai, Hong Kong, I've lived throughout the world, and that's why I'm such a strong American nationalist.
I love other countries.
I love other people.
I've had the greatest experience of my life, both in the service and the Navy, and as a businessman throughout the world.
But I understand that each nation is unique in its own way, and all people are kind of unique in their own way, and that's why we need the Westphalian system, the nation-state.
I think this week it was shown by the camaraderie and the energy that England had for its football team, its soccer team.
I saw Raheem talk Like two weeks off just to get into this.
It's basically people love their nations.
They love their countries.
So I think we're being very fortunate to where we are.
So that's kind of the story.
Like I said, it's too early to write the book.
Seb, you and I have a lot more wood to chop in this popular show.
We've got a lot of wood to chop, but that book better be written sooner or later.
Steve, you know me, my thing is strategy.
I love grand strategy geopolitics.
I think that's one of the connections that we have.
And I'm just curious, you know, you're one of the, I believe it's a word that's overused.
Very few people alive today who deserve the word or the title strategist.
There's people like Ed Luttwak, Martin van Creveld, VDH, Newt Gingrich and yourself.
I'm just curious, how much was that seven years?
Dugan in Russia.
Yes, to a certain extent.
But his influence is a little bit less than some people would have you believe.
How influential was the seven years of service in the Navy to you getting that strategic perspective?
Or was it, as you said, living in places like Hong Kong?
What gave you that strategic view?
It was the Navy, and also at the time, when I was serving, because I was always, you know, my parents were, hey, education's what's going to get you guys to the next level, and so I was taking the Naval War College extension courses, which are offered to officers, in fact, senior enlisted, as an extension program when you're at sea.
And so I was taking the Naval War College, and the first thing they had to study, this is in 1976 or 77, the first thing, Seb, you would appreciate this, The very first course I had from the Naval Corps College was Thucydides, the Peloponnesian War.
And I go, gosh, I go, look, I love history and I've read Xenophon and I've read Plutarch and all this.
I love this.
But why is a 20th century naval officer patrolling for an ASW ship, patrolling for Russian submarines in the South China Sea and in the Indian Ocean and the Western Pacific?
Why am I worried about a war that took place 2,000 years ago, and people said the strategy of it.
Athens and Sparta, the land power and the maritime power, and the rising power and the declining power.
That's when Henry Kissinger and Graham Allison, as you know so well, Seb, were selling the first concept of the Thucydides Trap.
The Americans of declining power, and the Soviet Union has this rising power.
Remember, when I was in the Navy in 76, 77, when I first joined, People were talking about the Soviet Union as some insurmountable military and economic power that was going to, you know, their command economy, and all the guys you hear today that are anti-Russia, they were all about what a great model.
You know, the same people saying what a great model the Chinese Communist Party, they were saying what a great model the Russians have with a command economy and this very amazing military, right?
And we were the declining power.
Henry Kissinger used to sell this all the time.
Graham Allison sold it.
Same guys that did the Thucydides Trap.
That's where we had Rapprochement, the Salt Treaties.
We were on our back foot.
When I was in the Navy, we were definitely on our back foot, so I got really interested in reading and studying the history of it.
I'd always studied history intensely in prep school and in college, but to really see how it applied to being on patrol in the South China Sea, and I realized as a very young man that, wow, studying Mahan and really the Spanish Empire and the rise of the World Navy was always one of my War in the Pacific with the American Navy, the 7th Fleet, which I was honored.
I always wanted to be in.
That's why I volunteered to go in.
To be part of the 7th Fleet, to be in the Western Pacific, to be at the Philippines and Guam and then to be, you know, often in Japan and Korea.
You really got to be part of history.
And then you could tie it back and you could understand the World Navy, which I was a big student of the World Navy, about how it all ties together and how the United States.
The other thing I realized, too, when you're over there, particularly as a serviceman, You understand how you love your country, you love your countrymen, but you do understand that you've got to actually go over there to kind of see what the reality is.
The reality is so overwhelming.
Asia is so massive in its scale.
It's so much bigger in scale than anything in America, and you understand how really special America is, how magnificent the country is, how we're very blessed with God and our countrymen, His freedom, and how we take it to advantage.
One last thing is that The one thing it told me is that when you look at a map or a globe, it gives you a very misleading impression because you see all these countries, you see all this kind of looks organized, and I gotta tell you, in my life, outside of the United States of America and Canada, so North America, the United Kingdom, and Northwest Europe, outside of there, it's basically anarchy and chaos.
I mean, it's the strong versus the weak.
There's no rule of law, very little rule of law.
You know, the world has only progressed so far, as far as that goes, right?
And that's why I'm such a kind of a nationalist, but it is, you need that perspective.
And I think that's why, quite frankly, so many veterans, so many active duty personnel, but particularly veterans, so many veterans are strong MAGA, strong America first, and particularly love president Trump or strong president Trump, because having served overseas, we realize how precious this country is and how tenuous liberty is.
In a world that is, quite frankly, pretty anarchy, chaos, and the rule of the powerful and strong, and quite frankly, mean, versus the common man.
So, one of the reasons, no, the reason you're back on my show is because both my producer and I separately caught your interview with Tim Pool and I was pretty pissed after I watched it because it was It was pretty peripatetic.
He'd ask you one question, you'd launch on, and then you'd be off on another tangent within three minutes.
And I have this long list with my team.
These are the topics I want to discuss with Bannon, and I don't think we're going to get to a fraction of them.
But let me jump straight in on what you just said.
And I think this is a large part of the challenge we face as people who love America, who are involved politically and served in the last administration.
We, for hours, could discuss Spikeman, Mackinder, Mahan, just those three people and what it means.
How many people, you know, the fact that 95% of Americans have no idea what we're talking about, and most of the people in the swamp, they've heard of Spikeman, they have no idea what it means to today.
Isn't that one of our biggest challenges, that we are the greatest, most powerful nation that has ever existed?
But we seem to be Utter strategic neophytes of late.
Is that our biggest problem?
The biggest problem, I think, is part of that.
I think it's a subset of it.
The central biggest problem is we don't, our elites on both sides, the elites from Wall Street, the corporations, political and academia, we don't run ourselves as a great power.
Yes.
We just don't.
We have so frittered away what so many generations have bequeathed to us and we fought for, for the freedom of mankind.
We just, we've really in the last 30 years, And I hate to be so crude, we piss it away.
And this is the elites on both sides.
It's not just they don't understand Speakman and Mackinder and Mahan, which the CCP definitely does, because it's the only nation on earth that's ever tried to put all three strategies into being.
But the elites in our country are detached from really what the meaning of our foreign policy has been.
Remember, since 1914, Seb, you and I talk about this all the time, and by the way, besides Ed Luttwak, Seb Gorka, that's why as soon as I met this guy, I said, this guy's a precious resource because you are among a very few people that are student of strategy in history and also the application in the grimy, nitty gritty world of applying that through an administrative state.
Let's be blunt.
Since 1914, since August 1914, the central foreign policy and national security of the United States through every administration and really from our elites has been That we will not allow... It's Mackinder 101.
And Mackinder was the Scottish professor who talked about the world island, right?
About this land mass in Central Asia.
He who controls the world... Central Asia will control the world island.
Who controls the world island will control the world.
The United States, in a practical thing, whether it's Kaiser Wilhelm, the fascists in World War II, the Nazis, Tojo in the Imperial Army in Japan, or the Soviets.
The fundamental tenet of American foreign policy, as epitomized by John Kennan, is that we will never allow a single power or a collection of powers to control the Eurasian landmass.
And let me talk to you about maps and about being a naval officer.
The maps give you a false sense of the world.
Basically, we have a world island that is Asia, Europe, and kind of attached to Africa, right?
But that world island is essentially the landmass on a globe that is an ocean, with an island off that, and that island is is North America and South America.
But that island is quite small, and so Mahan understood this.
One of the great findings of the British and the Spanish back in, what, 1517, is that all the oceans of the world connect.
They all connect around these world islands.
So McKinder came up with this theory, and that theory holds true today.
Even, I think, in kind of post-industrial and digital and space and all that.
The world island, and that is what the Chinese Communist Party, with Pakistan, And the Mullahs in Iran, Turkey and Russia are now trying to one belt, one road and other economic relationships in North Korea are trying to consolidate control of the Eurasian landmass at the same time do Mahan's strategy of key strategic points.
Our elites don't understand that and they don't and they don't understand how we, if we're going to continue to do that, we have to do that with a system as a nation state, not in this globalization situation, but we have to do it in real alliances where people are really putting both blood and treasure into the game.
This international, this fetish for this post-war international rules-based order is really where it's an American security guarantee.
And that's why every veteran knows that we can't afford it anymore financially.
And we certainly can't afford it with our children.
These have to be very focused.
Very focused that we're going to get into a military conflict and actually go kinetic outside of information war, cyber and economic.
If we're going to go kinetic, it has to be no more Afghanistan.
It has to be a situation like in the South China Sea or Taiwan or northwest border of India, where we're in hard, we're in fast and we're in victorious.
So I think you're right.
Our elites don't understand that.
Not only do they understand geopolitics and strategy, They don't understand.
Bill Maher said it perfectly the other day.
We played the clip from Lawrence of Arabia.
We're not a serious people.
Our elites are little people and they think about little things.
We're not governed.
We don't govern ourselves with our elites as a great power.
So we had the author of Hillbilly Elegy, which is a book I only read because of you, because you said read it when we're in the White House.
So we had J.D.
Vance on for the whole hour yesterday, and it kind of boiled down to this question of really, you know, the American people vice the elite.
And I want to talk about that elite for a second, Steve, because The Chinese are different.
You open my eyes to China.
The Persians are different.
Russia is different.
But the American elite, I see amongst them, there are no Kissingers.
There's no Machiavellis.
There are people with bad intent who are fine with Uyghur slave labor camps making Nike shoes, but there's no real brains.
There's Malfeasance.
There's even evil.
But they're not really smart people.
And here's my question.
If you concur that the elite really aren't smart.
There's very few left-wing Peter Thiels.
There's very few left-wing Musks out there.
If that's the case, why the hell has it been so hard for MAGA World to actually deal with these people.
And one of the biggest flaws I see, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I'd love a reaction, is not only did we not have a bench when we came into the White House, there's about 18 of us at senior ranks, you included, who knew MAGA, understood MAGA, and had some kind of plan for how to, you know, serve the nation.
We didn't build a bloody bench for the last five years.
So does that mean that we are condemned to a rearguard action all the time simply because these second-rate pikers in the elite are, what, better organized, Steve?
Well, they're definitely better organized, but I think it's, look, I think it's like the American Revolution.
Remember in the revolution, Seb, as you and I used to talk about, you had one-third of the people back the Tories.
One-third of the people, at most, were patriots and wanted independence, and one-third were kind of in the middle, seeing how both ways it goes.
I think that's what we have today.
One thing I want to talk about, you mentioned Kabili Elegies and J.D.
Vance in Ohio.
As you remember on the 16 campaign, Seb, is that a week ago, one of the reasons I was so maniacally focused on the Upper Midwest, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, is that because of factories moving out, And really, what China had done, what the elites had done with China, we could go to those rallies and speak in shorthand.
You can go to Ohio, where J.D.' 's running for the Senate, and you can say that the factories got shipped overseas by the Wall Street and corporate elite, and the drugs came in.
You can do it in a two-minute soundbite, and they fully get it.
They understand every implication, every aspect, because that's their lived experience.
If you and I would go to New York and sit in the board of directors or talk to McKinsey, The guys at Goldman Sachs, it takes you an hour to kind of make sure they understand the connections at best, right?
So our elites very detached from the lived experience of the population.
Remember the reason Donald Trump is president in 16 is that in particular in the last hundred days, it was the managed decline of our country by an uncaring elite.
And Donald Trump was really giving working class people, many Democrats too, and many independents that He was going to return America to her former greatness.
Make America great again.
That is such a powerful message that so many people believe in.
As tough as it is for Americans to say our nation's in decline, the people that do understand it and do admit it, understand that they're dedicated to the cause of returning her to her former greatness.
No.
The reason we have such a small bench is that, remember, this movement from the Steve Cortez's and the Peter Navarro's and the And the Seb Gorkas, the people that come from some of the top universities, it's just a small group, and you don't have a lot of guys come out of the corporation.
They're so inculcated into this kind of globalist thinking, and you've got to get along to get to go forward.
Remember, they challenge you for your job, this woke corporations, which were all built, remember, the woke corporations were all built by the libertarians and kind of the Austrian school of economics philosophy of the Republican Party.
Total deregulation and nothing but tax cuts left to keep their money.
That didn't really work out for us, right?
Because they've turned on, and the progressive corporations are much more powerful than the government right now, of imposing.
That's what's gonna impose the vaccine mandates.
In fact, Biden and those guys saying, no, we're not gonna do it.
It's all gonna be at the local level with the companies, right?
It's JP Morgan that said on Monday, you can't come to work if you're employed, if you're not vaccinated, and no clients can come to the firm's headquarters with no vaccination.
So the reason we have a small bench is that this apparatus has been failing forever.
Now, here's what I'd like.
I love our odds in this fight because there's a great awakening going among the working class and middle class.
Remember, in the turnings of American history, there was the Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War II, and we're in the fourth turning.
It's always when the American people make up their mind that something's got to happen.
that then the history really starts to move.
It starts to pick up velocity.
That's where we are right now.
We're very, we're a great, about a great realignment.
So I know you're a big fan of this turning idea and that every 70, 80 years, there's a massive tectonic move.
But here what I put to you is, I want to hear the underpinnings of that optimism.
Because right now, in the last 48 hours, there's been this fabulous little blossoming of some resistance from Jenna Ellis against the GOP and Rona Romney McDaniel.
But as far as I'm concerned, the left is the left.
And you know me, my dad was persecuted in prison by communists.
The left's going to do its thing.
We've got to fight them.
But the biggest obstacle we have in America It's not the other side, Steve.
It's the GOP.
It's the establishment on the right.
So, what gives you the optimism that we have the tools and the way?
You know, the American people can wake up, but we still have to take over the establishment right.
Is that actually happening?
Look what's happened since November.
You talk about this 3 November 2020 moment.
Do we have any requisite response to that apart from Jenna Ellis and Rudy Giuliani?
No, I think we got a huge response.
I think that, and quite frankly, look, you know, particularly Rudy was at that railheader that are doing the work.
But if you look what's happening in Arizona right now with, remember, the Arizona Senate are mainly moderate to McCain.
Karen Fann, who's done an amazing job, she's no fire-breathing Trumpanista.
Sonny Borelli is, but the rest of them are pretty moderate.
And the reason is they see, they understand something is very important, like the awakening that's happening in Pennsylvania now, in Georgia.
Garland Fabarito's press conference was huge.
They understand, take a lesson from what happened to Le Pen three weeks ago.
Macron's party implodes under 9% in the nation and the mainstream media will not talk about it.
The Financial Times of London, the New York Times, it's buried in the 30th paragraph.
Le Pen should have run the tables that set up the great epic battle in May of next year for the presidency.
It didn't happen.
Why?
And trust me, I was talking to these guys nonstop.
Why didn't it happen?
Twenty-five percent of Front National, National Rally, working-class people did not come out to vote.
Why?
It doesn't matter.
My vote's either going to be stolen or nothing's going to happen.
That is a fire bell in the night.
And establishment Republicans like Corman in Pennsylvania, Karen Fann in Arizona, Brandon Beach and Bert Jones in Georgia, who are now talking about decertifying the electors, they understand That the lesson of 3 January of that vote is that the MAGA is not going to turn up anymore.
That's where we've got to get to the bottom of November 3rd.
And quite frankly, then we're going to see where the cards are going to fall.
First off, we're delegitimizing, we're delegitimizing Biden every day.
The best coverage of the 3 November movement is Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow every night.
They are all over this because Rachel Maddow is very smart.
She understands, hey, they have their hands on the ballots, right?
She understands how this thing's going to metastasize, so no.
Here's what I think is the best news we've got.
People are now saying, human agency.
I'm going to go stop the CRT in the schools.
I'm going to go join a precinct committee and overturn the Georgia Republican Party and the South Carolina Republican Party.
I'm going to get engaged.
The tools are out there.
What I need to do, and you came up with a great term, Seb, in the White House.
I mean, it was a historic term, but you told me.
Let these people be force multipliers.
I take your term every day and use it.
I've heard you!
With no money.
Your audience... Listen!
Why is your show so big?
Why is your show such impact?
Why is the little ballroom so big?
People are hungry for this, and they want to engage.
They want to be part of this fight and this revolution.
Right now, their content force multiplies.
Look, you don't have a massive advertising budget, and you're not on a huge network either at Salem or Newsmax.
They're both terrific, but they're relatively small.
We're even tinier than that, but we have a huge impact.
May not have status, but we have power, right?
Why?
Because of the audience and becoming force multipliers.
People want to be engaged more than not.
And one of the reasons they see that President Trump came from behind out of nowhere in 16 and the nullification project tried to grind him to a halt every day.
And we didn't have the bench.
So I think no.
And I particularly think one last thing is the young people.
I see a young rising generation of Hispanics, African American, The BBC's reporting on the rise of the Chinese-American right, and they're talking about Epoch Times, Moscow's GTV, the War Room, the rise of the Chinese-American right, the blue-collar Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley, right?
The African-American males, Royce White, an NBA player, a former NBA player, talks about 20% of African-American males voting for Trump.
He thinks it's going to be 50% in elections going forward.
We are now seeing the beginning of a great realignment and a younger generation coming up and saying, I want to serve.
I want to be at the forefront of this.
Look, I'm incredibly enthusiastic.
Look, go back to the 20th of January.
Everybody's in the mumble tank.
They're all in the fetal position.
Your ratings, my ratings.
Look, all the ratings are closed.
As always, you have to have a loss.
And we just sit there and go, Hey, every fight, every battle, every war, you have great days and you have terrible days, but you've got to get through the bad.
And that's what you've seen.
Look where we are in July.
We're crushing Iran, stopping CRT.
And by the way, they have the apparatus, they have the corporations, they have the media, they have the money, but look what's happening in Cuba.
They don't want to talk about that, right?
They don't want to talk about communism.
They don't want to talk about the Wuhan lab.
They don't want to talk about how, you know, for the vaccine hesitant to put the information forward.
CRT, all of a sudden George Reid saying, well, CRT is just some esoteric legal theory.
Why are you so worked up about it?
Any defund the police?
Oh no, the Republicans are really defunding the police.
They are so panicked, Seth.
But Steve, let me just jump in here.
I've had them all on my show.
You know, every one of these teachers, parents that stood up in Loudoun, in New York, in Pennsylvania.
They've been on my show.
They've been on my TV show.
I think what's happening with CRT is amazing, is catalytic.
But, and I want the big chief strategist response.
For me, the Damascene moment that could change everything Is the catalytic intent or impact of the aggressive, extreme transgender policy?
I think Americans who never saw themselves as political are going to wake up in numbers we've never seen before.
Is this Pollyannish of me or do you concur that beyond CRT could be the transgender extremism?
I think I think particularly the transgender issue, this thing in women's sports.
I think it's a wake up call to women Suburban moms who, if they hear this name of Donald Trump, spit on the floor, right?
Who are not MAGA, but are MAGA maybe adjacent that we can convince over time.
And this is the issue.
But Seb, as big as that issue I think is in women's sports, I think we have a, I think the firestorm is just starting.
And I think the firestorm of the issue that will define much of going forward is on about around August 15th, when kids start going back to school.
And they either do the forced vaccination or the othering of school children.
The moms, if you thought the moms are America on your show for CRT and the mask, take CRT the mask and take it to the 10th power when you get into these vaccines.
And here's what the CDC said on Friday, right?
The CDC said on Friday, we're going with the, with the national education, the big teachers union schools are open in September, but If you're not vaccinated, and by the way, schools are open with no masks and no social distancing.
We're back to the good old days.
However, comma, if you have not been vaccinated, right, you must wear a mask and you must keep social distancing.
You're basically going to be put in the leopard colony.
The American mother is going to go nuts on this.
You say that even after the last 16 months of genuflection at the altar of St.
Fauci.
Are you not horrified by the supine position of most Americans under COVID restrictions?
The reason I'm not is look at the number of everything they're trying to do with corporations in there.
Only, I think, 58% of American adults have gotten the vaccine.
You still have 42% of the people that won't do it.
And now you've had all the... This is not about You know, particularly the African American Hispanic community.
It's not that it's not available.
It's free.
They're going door to door.
They're offering you million dollar lotteries in Ohio.
They're offering you free cars everywhere.
Have a celebrity go to dinner with you.
They can't sell it.
The reason they can't sell it, it's not the anti-vaxxer crowd.
I'm not anti-vaxx.
I got to tell you, though, I got to be convinced by the evidence that's there.
And that's not even being about children.
I know so many people that have had the vaccine as coupled that under no circumstances, at least for a couple of years, will allow this vaccine to go into their children.
So listen, just look in the last couple of days.
Pfizer comes out and says, hey, it's a headline in CNN.
We see a massive drop in immunity for the vaccine over time.
We're going to need a booster.
And now they have an emergency meeting.
Fauci comes out.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They misspoke.
They didn't look at the evidence.
Without putting out any evidence, you don't need another booster, right?
Yesterday, Johnson & Johnson comes out and says, hey, we're putting a label on our thing, boom, that over 50, you could get, you could, you know, be, there's a, there's a, there's a, not a disease, but there's a condition that you could be exposed to and get if you have it.
We have very little information on this thing.
So I think the expert class is starting to unwind and it's unwinding against a basically American mothers and people sitting there going, no.
Remember, it shouldn't be lost on you that 70, Five million adults have not gotten the vaccine, any vaccine, even one shot.
74 million people voted for Trump.
And we do know that some of the Trump voters, particularly the elderly or some people with comorbidities, decided to take the risk.
So, no, this is a major part.
Here's one thing I want to talk also is the bait and switch.
Remember, when we first started war on pandemic on January 23rd, when Wuhan was shut down, we had, we had Hadfield on the show for my coach for three weeks before he went to the White House to work.
Herd immunity is always antibodies from having COVID or T-cells.
Maybe you have therapeutics and then years from now you have a vaccine.
Fauci and those guys, the biggest scam is they refuse to include people that have antibodies in the herd immunity calculation.
They're driving this and he even admitted it in an AP interview three months ago.
The only way, if you get to 89%, mathematically you have to give the vaccine to adolescents and eventually school children.
He said, we're going to get to the adolescents with school opens in the fall, the school children by the end of the year.
Well, baby, bring it because they're about to see a firestorm that they've never seen before.
If you think CRT in the mask drove these parents, wait till they start putting, trying to put needles against or what they're going to try to do is other them, make them put them in a site.
And by the way, you're seeing this at West Point right now.
You see it at college campuses.
This is the great outrage.
If you're out there in this audience, the companies are going to start doing it to you.
Hey, you know, maybe you can't force a vaccine, but you've got to wear a mask and you've got to sit over in the corner in the bullpen in the leopard colony.
You can't be with the rest of the company.
So let me ask you this then.
You are the guy.
Who brought, let's look at the future, let's go beyond the autumn, let's go beyond the fall, let's talk about 2024.
You were the guy who brought candidate Trump from 16 points behind after the Billy Bush tape to victory against a woman who outspent us at least as far as we know, we don't know all the dark money, at least on two to one to victory into the White House.
I've spoken to President Trump after the election.
I saw him in New York a couple of weeks ago.
I am convinced, based upon my conversations, he is going to run.
If he runs, he gets the nomination.
Steve Bannon, is that a good thing?
It's a great thing.
Here's what we're going to do, Seb.
By getting to the bottom of 3 November and getting back on the move on, we're preparing now for a... Go back to 2010.
We are going to have a victory in the House of Representatives of 40 to 50 seats to take a commanding thing.
And this time it can't be any games.
Okay.
That's why I argue that the first speaker of the house should be Donald J. Trump for at least for a hundred days.
Okay.
Just set the tone.
Donald Trump event.
There is absolutely no doubt.
And if you have any doubt, look at the crowds in Sarasota and look at the crowds in Wellington.
There is as sure as the turning of the earth.
Donald J. Trump is running in 2024.
He is going to win a sweeping landslide, right?
Will you help me?
Will you help me right now, Steve?
I think he's gonna run.
I think he can win.
But I have been truly disturbed, and this is personal for me, in the last few weeks by hardcore conservatives, hardcore Catholics from my community who are saying he did his thing, thank you very much, but after January 6th he shouldn't run.
These are committed Conservatives.
What is your argument to those people?
The argument to those, you better learn your facts.
You better learn your facts.
First off, what happened on January 6th, Mike Pence, the coward, right?
Who, by the way, got zero at the CPAC poll.
His career is over.
It's done.
Done.
Zero.
He had every opportunity.
President Trump, and he lied in the letter.
President Trump never asked for, and the people around President Trump never asked for, to change the electors for Trump.
What he asked to do is to send the electors back to states like Corman, who's no radical and no Trump guy, sent a letter said, we have a problem of how these electors were certified.
We need some time to review this.
You should have sent them back to Arizona, Georgia, and Pennsylvania that all requested it.
And we wouldn't have had this mess.
What happened on January 6th, And by the way, the story is still to be told.
We got to get to the bottom of Ashley Babbitt, but also Darren Beattie and Darren Beattie in Revolver has broken it and Tucker's backed it up and we backed it up.
What did the FBI know and what did they know about it?
That's why I argued for the commission.
I wanted the commission to happen because every time we get a place to adjudicate something, every time we get a platform The evidence is on our side.
We're data-based, science-based, and evidence-based.
We want formal platforms to adjudicate things.
We would have been able to adjudicate the big steal in this commission.
If they're saying, oh, the big lie triggered it, we're fine.
You say that, we're going to bring the facts of what actually happened on the 3rd of November.
So, no.
The people that are saying that are people that I think were always milquetoast about Trump.
Look, let's be rudely frank, and you know this better than anybody.
Conservative Inc.
never liked Trump.
They loved all the other 16 candidates.
Trump is a populist.
He's a nationalist.
He's a traditionalist and a conservative and also a Republican, but kind of in that order, right?
And they don't want him back.
But I got news for him.
Whether you want it or don't want it, it's coming, okay?
Donald J. Trump is running.
He's going to, first off, and they're all sitting there going, no, you can't have him involved in 2022 because that puts him on the ticket.
Listen, it's going to be on the ticket anyway.
The country's divided and right now you've got to put it up for a vote.
You've got to put it up for a referendum.
Do you want anarchy?
Do you want chaos in your streets?
Do you want this poison of CRT jammed down your children's throat and poison their minds?
Do you want Moscow show trials in the military to get rid of all the patriots?
Do you want a world of communists that are exploding all over the world and the CCP taking advantage of you?
Do you want trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars spent on your children?
Oh, Steve?
Lost you for a second.
Are you that?
Steve?
where they are now, nothing but Russian serfs.
If you want that, and you want to hate America and the 1619 Project, hey, I got no problem.
If you want it, vote.
- Oh, Steve?
Lost you for a second.
Are you there?
Steve?
Steve, are you there? - I'm just going in all that. - Sorry, go back.
We lost you for 30 seconds.
If you like 1619, carry on.
1619, if you like, if you love all that, vote for the Democrats.
Because there's going to be such a dichotomy, a black and white dichotomy on what this is.
Such a story, and I really, it's quite manichaean, okay?
But this is not an age of subtlety.
That's why I spoke for.
It is definitely not an age of subtlety.
Steve?
For nuance, this is not this is season for the hammer.
Okay, and that's where we're going to win big in 22.
And everybody should be focused.
But you can't get to 22 till you get to the bottom of two things.
November 3rd in the Wuhan lab, you get to the bottom of those, it all becomes clear of who the apparatus is to suppress us, what the tech oligarchs do, what the will corporation to they're really supporting.
2022 is the beginning of really this revolution taking and going to its next step, right?
But before we can get to 2022, so you know, you've spoken to the same IC sources I've spoken to.
Not only was Mike Flynn framed, you were surveilled, I was surveilled by the NSA in the White House.
Prosecutors came after you with a spurious case that is collapsing.
What we are witnessing now is not just you, it's the 30 people in solitary in DC after January the 6th.
It's the FBI saying that you have to dime out your quote-unquote radical family members.
How concerned are you, or do we have a response to what this administration is doing, which is the attempt to criminalize conservatives?
Here's what we're going to do.
That's what we need to win in 2022.
We need hammers on those investigative committees in the House.
We need Fauci.
I used to think it was a church commission to solve the national security and IC problem.
We're so far beyond that.
I think we need to go and take it on and get rid of all the bad actors root in the branch.
And this has to be done.
It's a major issue.
We gotta fight it.
We can't roll over to... By the way, it's weaponized against patriots.
It's definitely weaponized against patriots.
There's no doubt about it.
They're trying to get either criminal charges... Look at what's happening in Michigan for just applying to basically challenge an election.
They want Lynn Wood and Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani in front of... They want their law license to take away forever.
They have... They're like a banana republic of how they use the FBI How do you use prosecutors?
But you know what?
What's good for the goose is definitely gonna be very good for the gander.
So because we can't play by conventional.
Once we get in, it's investigations, it's clean out the Southern District, clean out the Justice Department, and I mean clean it out this time.
Here's what I think you're gonna see.
A President Trump that realized you can't, by force of personality in his program, convince these people to get with a MAGA program and America First program.
So now it's gonna be get rid of them.
And don't worry about the Dunham's and all this stuff.
You're going to have to take care of yourself.
And I think you're going to see a much more focused, really intense GOP in 2024.
You're going to see because you're going to have people running for office and people challenging for leadership.
They're going to get it done or they're going to get bounced.
The people right now at the grassroots level are not going to tolerate anything but that.
All right, big question.
Before then, that's a year away or three years away, is the current national security of the United States.
I want to play one clip for you from the man who currently bears the title of Commander-in-Chief, and I want you to react to it.
Play cut, cut three.
If you, if it holds near and dear to you that you like to be able to, anyway.
I'm, we're going to get a lot done.
Um, hang on.
Uh, sorry.
Oh, same name as Kim.
Um, but, um, um, let me get here.
Okay.
Uh, um, well look.
Steve, we could go on and on and on with clips like that.
You've worn the cloth of the Republic.
Your daughter serves in the U.S.
Army.
You look at the Alaska-Sino-U.S.
summit where Blinken was bitch slapped by communist Chinese diplomats.
We have a gaping chest wound, a sucking chest wound in national security right now.
Is there anything we can do about it?
And how concerned is Steve Bannon, former chief strategist to the president?
I'm very concerned.
By the way, tat tip to your producers.
That's a magnificent compilation.
It also shows you about the 3 November project, how they don't care.
They just want to trump out.
They don't care if they jeopardize the country by allowing that husk of a person.
To be Commander-in-Chief.
We have, no, it's perilous.
I lose sleep at night.
Whether it's South China Sea or Taiwan, right?
You could have a conflict in Taiwan at any minute.
Remember, Taiwan is Silicon Valley West.
We lose Taiwan, forget the moral responsibility we have.
Let's leave that aside.
Let's think hard geopolitics and national security.
You lose Taiwan right now, you've lost Silicon Valley West.
You don't have an F-100.
You don't have the Ford truck.
You don't have the refrigerators.
Our economy basically grinds to a halt because all of our advanced chip design is in Taiwan.
It's a massive problem.
And the Chinese Communist Party see that.
Russia sees that.
The Mullahs see that.
They understand this.
This is why they're blowing him off in Cuba, right?
They cut all the internet and the phone connects.
They don't care about Joe Biden.
They think Joe Biden's a hapless, feckless old man who barely knows where he is.
So it's a huge problem.
But it also symbolizes what the other side is prepared to do this for public, what they're prepared to do to jeopardize your children, what they're prepared to do to jeopardize your lifestyle, your country, right?
What's been bequeathed to you for 10, 12, 13, 14 generations have been here, and as long as your parents have been here and worked hard, what they're prepared to do to jeopardize.
They don't care.
They wanted that husk up there.
That is, to me, that's the buried lead, and no.
It's very scary.
What we need is Republican leadership now, up every day, firing off about this, about the Chinese Communist Party, about the situation in Taiwan.
One thing you don't hear in the report, let's talk about this, that the spending alone is sort of controlling trillions of dollars for infrastructure, human infrastructure, Green New Deal.
We have a debt ceiling that the Secretary of Treasury, who's the only person in history who's been Fed Chair and Secretary of Treasury, warned us six weeks ago that on July 31st, if you don't raise the debt ceiling, We start to default on government bonds, and mid-August, there's crickets.
Where are the Republicans to the thing saying, hey, we have leverage on the spending.
They can't spend a nickel until we crease the debt ceiling.
If we want to save our republic, let's say the balance sheet and the economics of it, along with the national security, why don't we do that by leveraging this debt ceiling and say, you don't get anything until we get massive spending cuts.
Crickets.
We need a Republican party that has the same balls and the steel and the determination of its base.
It must reflect its base.
So any less than this as being a force multiplier for Sev or for War Room is to understand the key thing is we must get people in these offices that what they say they're going to do when they're out there and think that we hold them to it and they're going to do.
We need fighters right now.
I don't think we need a bunch of high intellects.
We need people who are going to fight and knock back down right now.
This is a time, and please yes, this is a season for fighters, and that's what we need.
All right, let's translate that into practical terms.
Last question for you, Steve, for all of our millions of listeners and viewers across the country, in fact across the world, because we've got fans in Brazil, Ireland, Israel, everywhere.
What is Steve going to be doing in the next, where does War Room and War Room Pandemic go next, in the next year or two?
And then secondly, we love the big picture, we love the geopolitics, but it doesn't matter unless it translates into praxis.
So what is your message for what all of our listeners and viewers need to be doing in the next 12 months?
In Josh Rogan's book, which is still the best book, called Chaos Under Heaven, he's the reporter that's very dialed in, connected.
He laid out different groups inside the White House.
He laid out that Peter Navarro, Steve Bannon, Seb Gorka, Stephen Miller, we were in the The Superhawk category, you had accommodate, you had, you had realist, you had hardliners, you had, you know, Pompeo's a hardliner, you had realist, you had, you had accommodations, but you had this group called the Superhawks.
And the Superhawks had a theory of the case.
The theory of the case is the Chinese Communist Party is not a legitimate government.
It's a transnational criminal organization.
We must confront that transnational criminal organization and take it apart, piece by piece, confront it every day.
I think War Room, to me, it's just every day, power in, provide the information that people clearly, like your show does, they love it, and they're proud to reshare it, they're proud to talk about it, and just see where it goes.
But every day, every Patriot, what I would say is that you have to under-think through why God, why Divine Providence put you in this place here and now.
and gave you every advantage in life with great parents in a great country, why you're here now, and why you're listening to Seb Gorka's show, or you've got access to The Whirlworm, or you know who Seb Gorka and Steve Bannon are.
You are the patriots that are going to save this.
Remember, what is it, a third to maybe back the patriots in 1776, but what, three to five percent fought?
What we need is those patriots to hear the clarion call and understand that the Balance of the Judeo-Christian West.
The country that was bequeathed to us is all in the balance.
We do not know how this story ends.
That's why I'm not writing the book yet.
We don't know how this story ends, but I can tell you, if you stay a force multiplier with Seb Gorka, if you have his back, if you become a force multiplier for the war room, you have Bannon's back, and become part of this cadre, we're going to win.
There's no doubt we're going to win.
You can see the whole path to victory.
So, every day it's the hammer, hammer, hammer.
And just remember, By more hammering that we're going to eventually get to the sunlit uplands.
And the last thing I want to say, Seb, and you appreciate this because we so talk about it all the time.
I wanted to the audience and this posse, this cadre, say the same thing Napoleon said to his marshals, the marshals of France.
When you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna.
And so that's what I would leave you with.
And we've got a great fight on our hands, but remember, it's fights that matter.
All right, get engaged.
Listen to this man.
You are part of the solution.
You are a false multiplier.
You've got to be politically active.
We can take this nation back.
And let's get to a point where not only do we take this nation back, but we've won, and then Steve can actually write his book.
Listen to War Room Pandemic with Steve Bannon.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
God bless you.
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