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Communist dictatorships can only last so long.
Welcome, dear friends.
I'm Sebastian Gorka, former strategist of President Trump.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network, and it is great to be back in studio.
The unanimous declaration of the 13 United States of America.
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with one another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitled them, A decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
A prince whose character is marked by every act which may define a tyrant is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
That is how we were founded as the only nation in the world that was based upon the principle of liberty.
Because we are made in the image of our Creator and we are witnessing events in Cuba right now that may impel a similar change of regime, God willing.
For the first hour, back here on America First.
I am delighted, I am honored to have with us none other than J.D.
Vance, the author of The Hillbilly Elegy, who has now declared that he is running for the Senate, and he will be with us for the whole hour.
We have so much to discuss, J.D.
Welcome back to America First and the Salem Radio Network.
But first, we have to discuss this, your reaction to the Incredible things we have been witnessing in the last few days on the streets of Cuba.
You know, first, it's pretty crazy, isn't it?
Like you said, communist dictatorships only last so long.
And this one has lasted for pretty much, you know, my entire life.
And it's amazing to see the people of Cuba actually getting out there and protesting for their freedom and against the oppression and the deprivation of a communist government.
So I wish them all the best.
And it's exciting.
You know, it's funny that I saw that they were waving American flags, which, first of all, what an incredible credit to our country that freedom fighters in another country are waving our flag as a symbol of freedom.
But it's also a little depressing because, you know, I've heard some folks say they're waving the American flag because they want the Biden administration to come and help.
It's sort of a signal to the Americans that we should come and help them.
And as depressing as this is to say, if they wanted help from the Biden administration or the Biden regime, They'd be more likely to get it if they wave the rainbow flag or the BLM flag, because unfortunately our own government doesn't even see our flag as a symbol of freedom in the same way the Cubans do.
What a great credit to the Cuban people and to our own people for recognizing that flag for what it is, but it's an incredible insult, I think, to our own government that they don't see the American flag the way the Cuban people do.
Yeah, there's a couple of things we must discuss now that you've mentioned the issue of those who are shouting liberty on the streets of a communist dictatorship, holding the US flag as a symbol of what they are fighting for, when back here, what are we seeing?
US sportsmen and women turning their backs On that flag, stating as per the 1619 Project that it is a symbol of racism, of white supremacy, of oppression.
Your response to, for example, not only the New York Times, But also the Biden State Department saying that what we are witnessing in Cuba is about a lack of vaccines and a paucity in the response to the COVID virus.
J.D., if you were worried about the lack of medical assistance in your country, wherever it was, would you be waving the flag of another country?
No, absolutely not.
And of course, it's absurd to think that's what's going on.
Look, they're protesting the fact that their freedoms have been taken away, that they're living a terrible life in their own country because they can't afford basic necessities, and if they say the wrong thing, they can be censored by their own government.
That's really what this is about.
A basic, fundamental understanding is that humans have a desire to live their own lives, to build their own country according to their own wishes, and to have some real say in the self-government of their country.
Of course, the Cubans don't have that.
And they're waving the American flag because it's one of the fundamental symbols of self-government and liberty.
So it's ridiculous for our own country to not recognize, excuse me, the leaders of our own country to not recognize how important that symbol is.
And it really is just gross to have our own athletes, representative of ours at the Olympics and on the national stage, not recognize something about our flag that desperate Cubans, who frankly are taking real personal risks to go out there and protest, They recognize something about that flag, but our own people, some of them, don't recognize it.
And what a sad commentary it is on the privileged athletes who are paid millions of dollars, afforded incredible opportunities by this country, but they crap on it, even as freedom fighters in another country recognize how powerful of a symbol it is.
Let me dive straight in.
You have converted from an incredibly successful author, former Marine, to a political candidate now for the Senate seat in Ohio.
We're going to talk about all of these issues.
We're going to talk about the recent flurry of attacks against you from not only the left, understandable, but also from the fake conservatives.
We're going to have fun with them.
Yes, I mean you, Lincoln Project.
Are you still protecting pedos, by the way?
Just checking.
J.D., we want to put you in a box politically.
That's what you want to do with all candidates.
As a child of those who escaped communism, it may shock my millions of listeners.
I'm not a big interventionist.
I want the Cuban people to be free, but I'm not super excited about the idea of using U.S.
troops to eventuate that reality.
What is your response geopolitically to what our nation's response should be to these events?
Look, that's exactly right.
Look, Cuba, unlike a lot of these other countries, is in our own backyard.
We have a real interest in what goes on in Cuba.
And I'm supportive, of course, of the Cuban people throwing off Castro's communist regime.
But we don't want to send American troops to do it.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
And look, Freedom that's only bought with the help of the American CIA is ultimately not freedom at all.
And just to be direct, you know, Seb, given what we've seen in the last few years, I don't even trust our intelligence agencies.
I think there are clearly good people working there, but there are also clearly some pretty bad people working there.
And I don't want what's going on in Cuba, which seems organic and oriented around freedom, to be messed up by some of the same people who've been meddling in America for the past three or four years.
You know, if we've learned anything in the last four years, it's that we shouldn't really trust a lot of these people.
And I certainly don't think we want to commit resources or troops or change what's happening in Cuba and take it away from the people on the ground there.
And given that the man who bears the title of president currently, when he was vice president, his boss Obama went to baseball games in Cuba, sat next to the dictator Raul Castro.
What are your expectations coming out of this White House concerning our reaction to this crisis?
Yeah, I just don't think they're going to do anything really, right?
They'll issue some statements, they'll say some things.
You know, I'd probably rather them have You know, do nothing than send a bunch of American troops there.
One of the things we've learned, of course, about the left is the left has increasingly become the party of stupid intervention.
It wasn't Donald Trump that started the wars in Libya and Syria.
It was the Obama administration.
So I don't think they're going to do a whole lot.
They're certainly not going to offer a whole lot of moral support.
But, you know, one of the great things about having an America, an America that's as strong as our country is, is that it can provide a lot of moral support to freedom fighters around the world.
And what's so gross about the way the Biden administration has responded to this, and I think will respond to this, is they won't give any reason for the people on the ground there to feel any sense of support or common cause with the nation of freedom.
I think it'll be pretty weak-willed.
It'll be pretty mealy-mouthed.
And that's pretty much all we're going to get from the Biden folks.
I think that is a fair prognostication.
We are talking to the author of Hillbilly Elegy, now running for the Senate seat in Ohio.
Follow him at JDVance.com.
On Twitter at JDVance1.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
So much more to discuss.
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All right, the mics are still hot on RumbleJS.
Just a heads up.
Mics are live.
Sounds good.
So how are things going?
Are you building a team?
Have you got a good stable of people?
Yeah, we got a solid team.
You know, hired Ron DeSantis as Deputy Campaign Manager from Florida 2017-2018 to run our campaign.
Great guy.
You've got good political people, good fundraising people, great media types.
I'm trying to keep the team a little bit lean just because I think that campaign staffs can get pretty bloated.
And as you probably appreciate, it's a little bit like a business, right?
You're trying to build it the right way, make sure you have all the functions you need, but not build it in such a bloated way that you have people just sitting around doing nothing.
But it's exciting.
We were up in Cleveland yesterday, did a couple of functions, did a speech there with some of the other candidates.
And people were pretty energized.
They're not interested in the same, like, boring set of talking points.
They want people with a little fire who really care about the country.
I just feel very confident in how things are going.
Good, good.
Well, if there's anything I can do to help, don't hesitate.
Just text me, tell Jeff, we'll have you on whenever you want and we'll just talk the issues because it's very exciting.
You know, I've said it many times in the last couple of years.
I think politics was irrevocably broken in a good way in 2016.
And, you know, I look at people who are saying, well, who could replace the president?
Who could run if President Trump doesn't?
And I tell you, there's really, you know, There's one requirement above all else, and this goes for Democrats as well as Republicans, I hope they're not listening, but the age of the professional politician is gone.
It's dead.
I mean, it's over.
It's got to be people who bring the automatic authenticity of not being associated with politics.
And that's why you're in such a strong position.
You know, I sadly also, you know, the the Oprah's of the world have doors open to them.
But it's got to be, you know, the idea that somebody who's been in politics for 10, 20 years could be a viable Presidential candidate?
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right.
That's absolutely right.
And, you know, I do think that, you know, one of the things we've learned over the last four years is that you also, you know, you need more than a president with good instincts and who's right on the issues.
Like, you actually do need a good set of people around them, especially in the Congress.
You know what I mean?
You know, you talk to the president, you talk to people on his team, and one of the things that consistently comes up is that on foreign policy and on trade, they feel like they were thwarted by the legislature.
Congress and the Senate just really didn't have their back.
But not just that.
Inside the bureaucracy, Jamie.
Yeah, yeah.
No, and that's in some ways even more concerning, right?
We talk to folks close to the president, the president himself, and it's like, well, We're trying to draw down troops, but some of the military leadership or some of the Defense Department bureaucracy is lying to us about troop rotation numbers so that they can kind of conflate what our troop numbers really are and distract from what we're really doing there.
It's like that's not just a bad thing.
That goes to the heart of whether we actually have a commander-in-chief and whether the consequences... Whether we have civilian control!
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100%!
It's scary, scary, scary stuff.
Well, we'll talk about all of it.
Alright, 20 seconds and we are back.
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Mr. G has handed me a latest update statement from Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States, on the situation in Cuba.
Big demonstrations are breaking out in Cuba and Miami in protest of the communist Cuban government.
Remember when Obama attended baseball games with the Castros while they imprisoned, beat and killed the human people?
I, the Cuban people, I stand with the Cuban people 100% in their fight for freedom.
The Cuban people deserve freedom and human rights.
They are not afraid.
That from the 45th president.
We are back with our very special guest for the whole hour here on America Firsty.
He's JD Vance, author of The Hillbilly Energy, a seminal work.
If you want to understand what happened to politics and to America in 2016 and why it happened, you have got to read Hillbilly Energy, now running for the Ohio Senate seat.
Also, later today we will be talking to Mark Morgan, former CBP commissioner, Jenna Ellis, and also Robbie Starbuck.
If you don't know this, he's of Cuban heritage and he'll be telling us his take on what is happening on the streets of Havana and elsewhere.
JD, since my time in the White House, I've had a very simple metric for success.
If they're attacking you in the mainstream media, you're definitely winning.
And dude, you are clearly winning if that is a metric.
You're only taking flak if you're over the target.
But in your case, and it's even sweeter, it's delicious.
It's the mainstream media and it's the fake Republicans.
So let's start with the left and then we'll talk about the rhinos and the pedo-protectors of the Lincoln Project.
Oh, Zaki, are you there?
Zaki Patrizio, so sad what happened to you at CPAC.
We'll discuss you later as well.
But hey, that's Slate.
Is it Slate or is it Salon?
I can't remember.
What's the difference?
Our good friend Chris Buskirk at American Greatness has written a fabulous piece talking or analyzing, dissecting the attacks on you.
And let me just ask you, I don't know if he talked to you before he wrote this, but his analysis seems to ring very true because you're a guy who came from this You know what the trouble is?
clan.
You are clearly from a working class family.
You broke out of the destitution that had occurred to the working class America, thanks to the betrayal of both left and right.
You became a Marine, a successful author, law school and everything else.
And he has this line in here that, you know, you went to Yale, you did these, you know, fancy things.
But then he said, you know what the trouble is?
You betrayed the left because they thought that you would leave behind your working class origins and become one of them.
Do you agree with Chris's analysis?
Have you betrayed the elite, J.D.
Vance?
Well, I certainly hope that I have.
If I have, then I think this Senate campaign is a success.
I mean, I didn't talk to Chris for that piece before, but I do think that he nailed what's really going on, which to your point, The left absolutely hates me.
It despises me.
I think it despises me more than any other Senate candidate.
That's a badge of honor for me, not just in Ohio, but around the country.
But I think so much of what happened, Seb, is that I sort of came from a working-class family.
I got welcomed into the Ivy League, into the world of the elites.
I was a little critical of Trump in 2016.
And then I actually saw the inside of that world, and I thought to myself, You know what?
I don't like these people.
I don't like what they're doing to the country.
I don't like their values.
And I want to be the person that my grandmother raised me to be.
Okay, okay.
You're 44 magnum toting grandma, guys.
You've got to read the book.
But tell me...
Everybody needs to read the book.
Everybody needs to support you and your candidacy.
But once you entered the vaunted institutions of the elite, can you give a flavor to our millions of listeners and viewers of what kind of things made you realize, I'm not so sure I want to be a part of this elite?
Well, I'll give you a couple of stories and I'll try to be as quick as I can.
So the first is I was at a dinner with some of the world's wealthiest billionaires.
My wife was there.
She was seated at the table.
But a few seats away from me, but we both heard this and it was a leader of a major hotel chain in this country who basically said, you know what?
Because of Donald Trump's immigration policies, I'm having to pay my workers a higher wage and we got to get Trump out of there.
We're going to get more cheap labor in our hotels so that I can pay people poverty wages again.
And I heard that and I thought to myself, like, are you kidding me?
Like this is some Monopoly man, evil stuff where you don't want to pay American workers a good wage.
You're going to import a bunch of foreigners to do that job.
The second story is when Trump appointed Brett Kavanaugh, and I really do think that when that firestorm happened, any other Republican president would have abandoned Brett Kavanaugh, but I was at a dinner, again, with a lot of very wealthy, very powerful people.
I was in Aspen, Colorado, of all places, and there was a Democratic senator there, and somebody was asking him, like, what's going to happen with this Brett Kavanaugh guy?
I was sort of off to the side.
Nobody really noticed that I was there, and he said, You know, look, it looks like he's sailing to confirmation, but trust me, we're going to destroy his effing life.
And you spend time with these people and you recognize what they're actually like, and you realize, look, they hate the country and they have this visceral emotional response to anybody who's really a threat to them.
And what I honestly, you know, I regret it.
Like, I didn't recognize about Trump is that they hated him so much, not because of what he said or because of his rhetoric or because he was a little crazy sometimes.
Like, that's what they said.
That's why they didn't like him.
They didn't like him because he was actually a threat to them.
And if you look at you, me, Tucker Carlson, Josh Hawley, who, of course, they tried to destroy his life after January 6th, the people who are actually making headway in this country, saving this country, The regime, the ruling class in this country hates their guts.
And unless somebody, unless the powerful people are hating your guts, it almost shows you're not actually doing anything right.
Can I tease that out for a second, J.D.?
Please.
Follow this man, jdvance.com, jdvance.com, support him.
Because he's a threat to them is correct, but let's put flesh on that bone, on that skeleton.
He's a threat to them because of their interests and how they see their future.
Because for me, there's a much easier way of explaining why Donald Trump had to be taken down, or why you're a problem, I'm a problem, and Tucker's a problem.
Because if you love America and if you think America is good, that's enough to make you a target.
Is that an oversimplification, JD?
I don't think it's an oversimplification at all, but also these people have gotten rich by plundering America and by plundering its middle class.
The whole thing that's happened with China, for example, the last 30 years, is that you've got a lot of companies that decided they could get richer by employing Chinese slaves instead of by employing American workers.
By the way, Seb, a lot of American companies did not make that decision.
There are good American manufacturers who are struggling desperately to try to make a good life in their own communities and not get in bed with the Chinese Communist Party.
But the ones who got in bed with China, they got a lot richer, but at the cost of destroying their own countries.
You're absolutely right.
They basically Hate the people who love their country, whether it's in the business world or the political world.
They recognize that if you really love this country, you try to build it, you try to invest it, you try to teach children to love this country and love its traditions.
And if you hate this place, then you try to tear all that down.
Yeah, absolutely.
We need more people like this who've seen the beast from the inside, love America, have served this nation and now want to serve it in the swamp to slay those dragons.
He's JD Vance, author of Hillbilly Elegy.
It's truly a life-changing work.
I don't have time for biographies except that one and Andrew Breitbart's.
Read it and then go to his website jdvance.com.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
So much more to happen, so much more to discuss here.
So glad to be back.
This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
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You must be happy with all the exposure when they're coming after you.
Who was it?
No coverage is bad coverage, right?
Mike's alive once again.
Oh.
Yeah.
His audio is up.
Mr. Vance, can you still hear us?
Yeah, I can hear you guys.
Oh, good.
Good, good, good.
I maybe lost you for a second because you went silent for about, I don't know, 20 seconds.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I was just saying that you must be happy with all the coverage because there are those who say all coverage is good.
Yeah, you know, I really can't complain about it.
We knew we were going to get hit a lot coming out of the game.
We were totally prepared for it.
We expected pretty much everything that they've thrown at us.
But to your point, Sam, I mean, it is good.
You know, the ruling class is having almost, it's like an immune system response.
They're attacking me instinctively.
And I just think, yeah, like to your point, it suggests, you know, I'm hovering above the target, which is good.
When did you, how did you first connect with the Peter?
You know, it was actually in law school.
Um, he came and gave a talk when I was in law school and it's, it's funny, you know, he, he, he, he wasn't that famous.
And there were probably 15 people who came to the talk and he basically said, look, This entire institution is going to track you guys into jobs that you hate.
It's going to give you a sense of prestige, but it's going to make you look down on your own countrymen.
And at the end of it, you're actually not going to have great lives.
You're just going to become miserable people who care more about where you went to school than what you're actually doing.
Hang on.
I was like, oh my God.
Teal said that.
He said that openly at Yale.
What was the response?
What was the response?
Honestly, I think most, I mean, most of the people who were there actually liked it.
I mean, it was a conservative group that they got together.
Again, it was maybe 15 people max.
Okay.
But my response was, Oh my God, this guy gets it.
Cause you know what?
A lot of people who don't spend time in these circles don't appreciate that is that the people, it's like they're all competing over the same thing, right?
Supreme court clerkships or a law firm, you know, prestigious law firm position.
And so they all almost like have this competitive hatred towards a lot of the people that they call friends.
But then they get into these positions and they recognize they don't really like what they do that much.
So it's like this weird rat race where the end result, the prize at the end of the rainbow is a job that you hate.
And I think it makes people really miserable.
And I think it's actually an important part of understanding the ruling class is like a lot of them recognize that they're not doing anything that important with their life.
And I think it drives them crazy.
Yeah.
I don't know if it drives them crazy.
But I think it you realize you start to be eaten internally, when you realize there's there's no deeper meaning to your existence, that that that that bile tends to just chew you up from the inside.
Yep.
Well, you invent things like critical race theory to give your your life a sense of purpose and meaning, right?
Because You have no religion, you have no faith, but you can at least look down on your fellow Americans.
Unbelievable.
Alright, stand by 40 seconds and we are back on radio.
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You looking for a cut, Dr. G, or no?
No.
No, I'm just gonna do a quote.
Yep.
Sounds good.
Bye, guys.
Bye.
On the side of the U.S. Constitutional Constitution, America first.
How do you go to being such a darling of the establishment that the New York Times says that his book is one of the six books you have to have to read to understand Donald Trump's victory to today being called a dirtbag by quote-unquote conservatives and a racist for using Such a pejorative term as nation state.
Well, let's ask him.
He's J.D.
Vance.
He said the following, and this seemed to trigger the Washington Post.
And here's a quote from our guest.
There are a lot of ways to measure a healthy society, but the most important way to measure a healthy society is by whether a nation is having enough children to replace itself.
Do people look to the future and see a place worth having children in?
J.D.
Vance, why is that such a bad thing to say, and who does it irritate?
Oh, it irritates a lot of really crazy people.
So first of all, I do think this is a really important issue, and the Washington Post called me a white supremacist for actually having the courage to utter that.
That, by the way, Seb, cost me, as you could probably appreciate, some business contacts.
When these people come after you, it's not idle, right?
These people have a lot of power, which is why it's so important to have courage And have friends in this movement.
But, you know, what I find so disturbing about this is if you think about the modern Democrat Party, not the older guys, the Clintons, the Bernie Sanders, the Joe Bidens, but think about Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC, all of these people.
It's like a party where the next generation of leaders, none of them have kids, right?
And look, like I understand some people don't have kids.
There are health reasons.
There are other reasons people don't have kids.
The entire Democrat Party is like this childless cabal of people who don't really care about the future.
And when you call that out, they get so alienated and they get so angry at you that they just start throwing words like racist around.
I think that's what's really going on.
But I'm so glad you mentioned that because somebody said somebody was utterly excoriated for making the same comment about European leaders, about Angela Merkel, Theresa May, that these are all childless and it affects your politics.
Well, how could it not affect your politics, JD?
Absolutely.
It's you don't think about your investment in the community.
In the nation in the same way, if you know that your children aren't going to inherit it, right?
I mean, one of the reasons I really care about this country, not the only reason, of course, but the reason I really care about it is because long after I'm dead and gone, my children and grandchildren are still going to be here.
They're still going to be trying to build a life here.
And the Democrat Party is a party of childless people.
I think that affects their view of the future.
Like you said, how could it not?
But there's another thing that's just more disgusting going on here.
Which is the suggestion that American families should be stable and secure.
The idea that it's a problem that we don't have enough babies in our own country is racist.
Like, what are these people talking about?
It's so crazy.
You can't even talk about real problems in this country without them labeling you a racist.
And it makes it impossible to have a real conversation with these people.
They're all just so psychotic.
Indeed, they need psychiatric assistance.
Let's also tease this concert up a little bit.
Not just having children, and having faith in building a positive future for your children.
Talk to us about the role of faith in whether or not a country is healthy, J.D.
Look, it's something I really worry about.
I think every society has a religion.
The famous English writer G.K.
Chesterton said, when you stop believing in God, you don't believe in nothing, you believe in anything.
And just look at the American ruling class right now.
Can we really look at the way they talk about race and racism and white privilege?
These people have a religious faith.
It's just wokeness instead of Christianity or Judaism or something with a lot more rootedness in history.
You may not notice that I'm a devout Christian.
I'm a Catholic convert, actually.
But one of the things that I take away from my own experience with faith is that when people don't have that core of religious faith, They very often pick up anything off the side of the ground and believe in it.
And again, I think this is another thing that's really gone wrong with our ruling class, is you have people who they recognize that there's some deeper purpose out there, some deeper truth, but they've found it in politics and in social progressivism, wokeness, whatever you want to call it, which is why I think their approach to life and public policy is so deranged.
Yeah.
I knew I liked him for a reason, Shad.
He's a mackerel snapper like me.
He's JD Vance.
The book is Hillbilly Elegy.
The website JDVance.com.
He's running for the Ohio Senate seat.
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So you're a convert.
Yeah, yeah.
When did that happen?
A couple years ago.
You know, I think not, not obviously different, but not totally unrelated to my, uh, My recognition that the elites were corrupt, and that I had to get a little bit more politically out there.
I assume you're Christian, Seb.
Are you Catholic, too?
Yeah, I'm a cradle Catholic, and then when my wife met me, she converted to Catholicism.
Oh, that's fantastic.
What was your influence?
Why Catholicism?
Was it your wife or somebody else?
You know, just a lot of people I met along the way.
My uncle, by marriage, is a Catholic, just a great guy, was a really good father figure to me growing up.
The guy, the uncle you write about in the book?
Yeah, exactly.
Just a couple of other figures, but just over time came to think of it as the real source of truth in the world.
And, you know, obviously it has its problems, but I think it's an amazing place, an amazing church.
I think the fact that it hasn't compromised on a lot of core moral questions is a big part of why I was attracted to it.
Right.
Absolutely.
On that issue of children, if I can find it I'll send it to you, a couple of years ago the BBC interviewed one of the female Anglican bishops, which first off is an issue, and they said to her,
Your churches are empty and it seems as this problem could last because Anglicans aren't having children and she's in purple, she's got a little short high and tight and she seriously says into the mic live, she says, yes we're okay with that because we find that more intelligent people tend not to have children.
So she's fine with the death of her religion because smart people don't have kids, JD!
Right, right, that's right.
Yeah, well, yeah, what does it say about their intelligence that they can't have children and not have anything to pass on?
Right.
You know, it's funny, you pick all the Anglicans.
I was in San Francisco a few months ago, which is just depressing.
Now it's just really gotten out of control.
And there was this beautiful cathedral, and I thought it could be a Catholic church because it was so old and so nice.
And outside they had rainbow flags all over the building and the bishop.
It wasn't totally clear whether it was a man or a woman and I'm like, okay, this is not a Catholic church.
Nope.
Definitely not.
It was an Anglican church, of course.
It was an Episcopal cathedral.
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He is JD Vance, JDVance.com.
JD, there's an issue I could discuss with you for the rest of the show and for several days.
I have to talk about it in this segment with you, especially after the release from the FBI in the last 24 hours of the Homegrown Violent Extremism Mobilization Indicators, this report that is about As we see the Cubans fighting for freedom, the FBI in America is asking you to dime out your relatives if you think they might be, I don't know, red MAGA hat wearing... Patriots!
So JD, I have a theory that what we are witnessing in this regime coming out of the White House, based upon what happened under the Obama administration, is an attempt to criminalize conservativism.
Is that overstating the case?
I'm not overstating the case at all.
And I think that's much of what the political prosecutions in the wake of January 6th actually looks like.
I mean, look, obviously there were some bad actors and people who beat up police or were violent.
You got to do something with those folks.
But a lot of the people in jail, it looks like did absolutely nothing wrong other than walk into the Capitol after it was already opened by the Capitol police.
And this FBI thing you're talking about is so creepy.
I mean, you know, you imagine a world in three years.
Where you get a 75-year-old grandma before the FBI, and it's like, have you or have you not ever waved a tiny American flag at a Fourth of July parade?
And this is sort of crazy.
They're asking people to report on their own family members for something that's quote-unquote extremism, which in the eyes of our government right now is often just normal political ideology, political viewpoints.
It's just really creepy and crazy stuff.
And one last point on this, Seb, This is what the left is supposed to go crazy about, right?
They're supposed to care a lot about corporate power.
They don't care about big tech at all.
They're supposed to care about political prosecutions and government not giving people proper rights.
They apparently don't care about that at all.
So long as the government's prosecuting the right people, it's just really spooky stuff.
And I'm a little disappointed.
I'm a lot disappointed that so few Republican representatives have actually spoken up about this stuff.
What's the worst case, as somebody who has so well mapped what has occurred in American society over the last 50 years, economically, socially, as a veteran, as a former Marine, what is the worst case scenario that this could lead to in the United States?
Look, I think, unfortunately, it's cooperation between our biggest companies in the government To effectively make it impossible to be a conservative and live a good life in this society.
I mean, you can imagine, and Visa and a lot of payments processes have already talked about this, going in to buy ammunition and having your credit card declined, or going in to buy a book written by me or written by you, having your credit card declined, not being able to find it.
And then when you try to do these things, when you try to buy a book that's been banned on Amazon, or try to buy ammunition at a store, you go on some FBI registry.
I mean, look, thank God I don't think we're there yet.
But we're getting to a place where the national security state in this country, instead of focusing on foreign enemies, is really focused on people who aren't a threat to this country at all, just because of the things they believe.
And again, it's really creepy stuff and I don't like where it's going at all.
And your reaction to what we've seen from the likes of Mark Milley saying that he doesn't know what CRT is, critical race theory, but he's fine with it being taught at West Point?
Your reaction?
Well, look, I just find this so hard to even listen to.
I mean, Mark Milley is talking about white rage and why his troops need to learn about white rage.
First of all, pal, a lot of your troops are white working class and white middle class Americans.
Of course, military comes from all walks of life, but are people who are maybe frustrated about their country, not because they have white rage, but because they're citizens who have real viewpoints.
So why don't you shut up?
Stop accusing your own people of being bad and try to listen to their concerns.
The second thing I got to say about this is, look, I love our military and I love our troops and I think they've performed admirably in every single case that they've been asked to perform.
But the military leadership in this country has not done especially well.
They haven't done well in Afghanistan.
They haven't done well in Iraq.
They've acted more like politicians than generals.
And you know what Mark Milley, I'd rather you read less about white rage and a little bit more about how not to lose wars because we've been doing way too much of that the last I like that.
A little bit more Clausewitz and a little less CRT.
That would be a nice thing.
As somebody who served for five and a half years in the JPME system as a defence, Department of Defence, civilian professor, yeah, a little less woke and a more grand strategy would be a fine thing.
Especially because, guess what, Mark Milley?
Our enemies pay attention when you say stuff like that and I guarantee you one thing, as somebody who lived for 15 years in Central Europe in a post-communist nation, they're not studying critical race theory at the Frunze Academy in the Russian Federation.
In Beijing, in Pyongyang, in Tehran, they're not interested in concepts of racial domination, at least not within their society, maybe racial domination by them against us.
Such truths, truths that hopefully, God willing, will propel him to that Senate seat for Ohio.
The webpage is jdvance.com, jdvance.com.
We'll be back to close the hour with JD in just a few minutes.
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So I regularly, I have VDH on every week and we always discuss this issue and I know he's working on it.
What do you think could be an organizational response to this wokeness in the military?
Because they're not going to fix it.
What should we be doing?
Well, I think it should be almost a litmus test for any of our political candidates to start to put leverage on DoD because You know, most of the troops, whether they're Republicans or Democrats, are actually good patriotic Americans.
It's the senior leadership.
And so I think if you stop this stuff coming from the senior leadership, if you penalize them, if there's some financial penalties for it, then you can actually kick these guys to the curb and stop teaching this stuff.
That's the only way you can really, really deal with it and fix it.
Another thing you might be able to do is actually create in the military For the troops a right of action, you know in the same way that like if you're denied a promotion because you're black or because you're white Right, then then you have a right to sue Maybe it's time for us to do this with a lot of our troops that if you have to sit through these ridiculous discrimination diversity equity and inclusion you know EMEs or basically military classes
Then maybe it's time to give those guys the right to say no, no more of this.
But look, it's the one institution in our society that really does work, right?
Yeah, and that's why they have to attack it.
I know, it's so depressing.
You've got people from all walks of life, they're on the same team, they feel real brotherhood and camaraderie, and it's like, well, what are we going to do with this?
Let's destroy it.
It's the most, to me, the most, like, Sociopathic thing the left has done is look at the US military and say, what they really need to read is Ibrahim Kendi.
Yeah, I, you know, and the trouble is, this has been going on for a long time.
When I was there back in 14, I've told this story on the show, I ran an exercise for a bunch of 05s and 06s, like 40 of them whose MOS was strategist.
And I told them to decide what the primary threat to America was, JD.
Half the cohort said the primary threat was climate change.
These are 05s, 06s.
I lost it.
I had a cow.
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Vance, former Marine, author of The Hillbilly Elegy.
J.D., in the last few minutes, I mean, this has been a wonderful hour.
Thank you so much for taking the time.
I know you've got to run across the state.
You've got to, you know, get the word out.
It's easy for me to do what I do, because until his dying day, my father bore on his wrists, on his body, the scars of the torture the secret police had exacted against him when he was in a communist prison.
So it's not difficult for me to fight the good fight.
Tell us why you have decided to go up against The establishment that welcomed you in, and what your message is to those across the nation, whether it's CRT, whether it's social media, who feel intimidated and are just keeping their heads down, JD?
You know, like your family, we have some colorful stories in mind, Seb, and my grandmother came from nothing.
She gave me a great life, and I just want my kids to have a good life in their own country.
And yeah, you take some flack, and yeah, it's a lot of financial Pressures to not run for political office in this country, especially when the left attacks you the way that they've attacked me.
But it's worth it, because when I die, I'm not going to care how much money I made.
I'll care about whether I left my kids a country that's actually worth living in.
And to me, the basic message of our campaign is, look, we want good Americans who work hard and play by the rules to be able to live a good life in their own country.
That means they've got to have good jobs.
So we've got to stop shipping our jobs to China.
They've got to have safe and secure communities.
So we've got to lock down the southern border.
And they've also got to be able to feel a sense of pride in their own country and in their own place.
We've got to stop the CRT teaching in the schools, and we've got to stop telling people that they're racist or they're bad people if they happen to be conservatives.
They've also got to be able to speak their mind, which is why we've got to go after big tech.
But it all goes back to this basic idea that you should be able to live a good life in this country that our parents and grandparents built.
That's what the American dream is all about, and somebody needs to fight for it.
For the people of Ohio, for the citizens of this state, so that they can live their dreams and have a good life in this country that all of us love.
I don't know why some people call Marines the crayon eaters.
Did you hear that clarity?
It's so simple!
You're not gonna be happy with a pile of cash when you die, but if you can say you left a better country for your children, What more do you need?
That's why he needs to be the next senator for the state of Ohio.
Go to his webpage right now, JDVance.com.
Follow him, read his book.
God bless you, JD.
Hope to see you soon back here on America First.
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Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government.
My friends I'm back and on my trip back I had occasion because of a request that was made to me to reread the Declaration of Independence that you just heard a fragment of and it just
reaffirmed for me how incredible a document it is and how it has made us the greatest nation on God's earth and I want to share that passage with you to explain why the people of a communist dictatorship Who are screaming, Libertad, Libertad, on the streets of Havana, are waving our flag.
My friends, we have a lot to be proud of.
Not just because of what's happening in Cuba, but because of what we need to do in this country.
And I'm so excited!
We switched on the phone lines!
And the team is back.
From Leo, to Dunn, to Brent, to Judy!
I can't wait to talk to you.
But with your leave, With your indulgence.
If I may, I'm going to go to somebody who has taken umbrage at my first guest since my return.
So we're going to go to Cleveland from the state where JD Vance is running.
And it's MJ.
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Welcome, MJ.
Hey, Dr. Gorka.
You're awesome.
I love listening to you.
Thank you.
Anyway, to get down to the point.
There's a lot of concern about J.D.
Vance.
It's one of those, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice.
I'm sorry, the other way around.
Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, I know.
So what's the problem with J.D.?
How many times has he tricked you, N.J.?
Anyway, it's not that he tricked me, but he's been against our awesome president Donald Trump and now he's like coming forward and saying he's a supporter of his all of a sudden.
No, no, no, hang on.
Did you listen to the last hour, MJ?
Hold on a second.
MJ, my turn now.
My turn.
Did you listen to the last hour?
Go ahead.
Did you listen to the last hour?
Yes, I listened to all of it.
Where did he say all of a sudden?
Where did he say suddenly he changed?
Did you hear that in the last hour?
Because I didn't.
No, he didn't say he changed in the last two months.
It's pouring rain and I'm, oh my gosh, I'm trying to like avoid the rain.
But he said he changed in the last two months.
Well, number one, MJ, that's incorrect.
So if you look at what he's written over the last year, it has nothing to do with the last two months.
It has to do with the last two years, really.
And secondly, let me ask you honestly, hand on heart, MJ, have you never made a mistake in your life, MJ?
Sir, I am like 55 years old.
I made a million mistakes.
So?
Is he not allowed to make a political mistake and change his mind?
Is that illegal?
Is that not permitted in America to change your mind about politics?
Well, it just feels like it's awfully recent, you know?
Well, MJ, I'm not going to litigate this because we've got a completely full call board.
I would say the following to you.
I followed him very closely.
I read his book when I was in the White House almost five years ago.
I would suggest to you there's nothing sudden about what J.D.
Vance has done.
We're back!
If you trust my judgment, I would suggest to you, you read everything he has published in at least the last six months and then call us back.
Because there's nothing sudden about what he has done.
And he enjoys my full support.
And hopefully that should make a difference to you.
Thank you for calling, MJ.
Thank you for your kind comments.
Let's go down the line.
Number one, it's Leonardo.
Welcome, Leo.
You're back.
The happy warrior.
I am.
I'm really happy to be back, Leo.
Right on the battlefront, I hope you got a little R&R there.
The next congressman, obviously, in Ohio has got to be J.D.
Vance, unless the people in Ohio Why do I have a fascist governor like the one we're kicking out in New Jersey?
We got this Republican coming up, Jack Chiarelli, and you know what?
I just listened to the lady, and Jack Chiarelli made the same mistake back in 2015 and 16, saying things that are obviously wrong about our greatest president, Donald Donald Trump.
And he, you know, now he has to keep his mouth shut about the things that he said back in 2016.
And, um, you know, hopefully we're going to get, uh, him in there because the choice is to have this lunatic, uh, Felito Murfelini in for another four years.
How did you find JD?
What did you think of the last hour?
Oh, no, I've been following him with Charlie Kirk and I just would say to the lady, you know, Thank God that I'm born Roman Catholic.
You can tell because I have my huge Roman nose all over my face.
So I believe in confession and forgiveness.
Yes.
Everybody can make a mistake.
Listen, I know his story.
So if I came from that background and I looked at a billionaire named Donald Trump, I might make a mistake about who he was.
But I already told you my story.
My family did business back in the casino days.
You know, like I know Donald Trump.
Enough to know that he's a beautiful populist.
And when I was talking to Boris last week on your show, the president made the lawsuit, and he's a populist president.
You know I'm an attorney, so what better way than have the class action suit, right?
And I was suggesting to Boris, let's get the teachers and the aggrieved parents who have to pay for the private schools.
And the children who have suffered child abuse.
Let's put a class action.
This is a populist movement.
That action, the class action tool that's in the toolbox of The lawyers in this country is an effective tool to get lots of people patriotic money.
We have to talk about that news while I'm away.
That big news from the president about his action against the Silicon Valley.
And Leo, God bless you.
But who allowed my listeners to call in to my guest hosts?
Is that allowed?
Let's go from Leo to Don.
Line two in L.A.
Don, welcome.
Ah, Dr. G, welcome back.
It's great to hear your rolling thunder voice from the Voice of America.
It's good to be back.
What brings you to our shores today, Don?
Well, you know, I was inspired by listening to Mr. Vance because I was going to talk about something else, but your conversation on, you know, the CRT and the military really struck a nerve.
Because, you know, Dr. G, we're so concerned, and rightly so, that communist Chinese Yes!
the coronavirus to us, but there's a much deadlier virus that they've instilled into our country a long time ago, and that's cultural Marxism and critical theory.
You know, as you've eloquently said before, it's rooted in Russia and China and Mr. Gramsci in a fascist dungeon in Italy.
They should have just killed him.
And that's a disease that's still ongoing.
and we need to vaccinate ourselves against that.
You know, that's what needs to be exposed and shown to the light of day.
Let's look at the last 14 months.
Six million people killed by the Chinese coronavirus.
How many people killed by the virus that is Marxism?
Over a hundred million at the hands of communists across the nation.
You're absolutely right.
The real virus that is deadly for the future of America is cultural Marxism.
And we've got to fight it, and that's why we are here every single day to push back.
Brent, Ray, Judy, don't go anywhere.
We're going to talk to Jenna Ellis next for an update.
But then we'll get back to your calls.
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All the regulars, just immediately.
I know!
All the regulars phone in, I love it.
Yeah, Leonardo did call in during Boris' show, but other than that, yeah.
What?!
Boris called him Leonard.
Leonard?!
He called him Leonard.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Miscommunication there.
Well, that must have the same etymological root, I would think.
I think there was one other regular.
Was it Brent who called in when Jen was guest hosting the show?
Uh-huh.
Horn?
Yeah.
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Yeah, it was Brent.
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No, it's the sea.
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That's what one week on a cruise ship will do you.
I know.
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The Mediterranean is pretty salty.
Man alive.
I just don't like salty water.
Why would you swim in something that makes your body salty?
Yeah.
I'm not a big fan.
Yeah, the ocean, I don't know.
I like sailing.
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I do not like swimming in the ocean, though.
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We used to do that all the time.
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Full days.
The next day, my back was like double relief factor.
That's literally what happened.
Because they're doing this all day, and those big tires, you know, it's not power-assisted.
Super fun, though.
That's literally what happened with my family last time we were in Hawaii, and we did jet skiing for the first time.
My mom and I were on one jet ski, and I was driving, and so you're hitting the wakes, just bouncing on the water, and mom was telling me, she was like, "Eric, I feel like I'm like five inches shorter after the result of yesterday from the whole, like, her spine just like, bouncing on the water." I went a little bit too hard on the waves.
I love jet skis.
Jet skis, quads.
If he doesn't have an engine, not interested.
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Are we ready to have some fun?
Oh yeah.
It's going to be an interesting night for sure.
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I can't wait.
This is long overdue.
Absolutely.
Absolutely it is.
And you know, President Trump has always been about the truth and telling the truth.
And so, you know, this is where people keep saying, you know, oh, you're eating your own and whatever.
And it's like, no, if we don't have accountability in our own party, then what are we saying?
Yes.
I mean, if only somebody had a show called Just the Truth.
I mean, then we'd be OK.
Someone should do that.
Somebody should do that stat.
Someone should do that now.
Yeah.
All right, excellent.
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Hang on.
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And after a day of four-wheeling like that, just covered in dirt, who needs sunscreen when you've got a layer of dirt?
Did I show that photograph?
I think you did, yeah.
I almost want to make that comment, like, you don't need sunscreen.
That's good enough protection against the sun's rays.
I was caked in dust.
Oh, man.
I hope you had goggles, at least.
Glasses?
Well, I had sunglasses, but it just goes behind it.
I didn't have goggles.
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Wow, there's been a firestorm on the interwebs, and it involves one of our good friends, a freedom fighter, par excellence, former attorney to the President of the United States.
She is the chair of the Election Integrity Alliance, and she's with us now.
Host of Just The Truth, Jen Alice, welcome back.
Good to be back and it was great to fill in for you on Friday and better though even when you're in the chair.
I like it when I'm in the chair for my show but you did a sterling job.
Listen, I went onto the America First app while I was traveling and you did a fabulous job.
Jenna, what is going on with you, the GOP, and what's her full name?
Oh, let me just remember.
Rona Romney McDaniel.
Yes.
I'm going to explain more tonight on my show, so everyone should tune in 6 p.m.
Eastern on Real America's Voice, and we'll actually be exposing the text of these emails from the current, still surprisingly, Chief Counsel to the RNC, Justin Riemer.
Back in November of 2020, he sent these emails internally within the RNC.
Someone sent them to me.
And basically what they say is that he thought that the election integrity effort for President Trump back in November was a joke that it had no chance of success.
And he actually said that the that the RNC fund raises more when Democrats are in office anyway.
So we need to just let this go.
And of course, that is not what the RNC told to the general public.
We're 100% for President Trump.
We need to fundraise.
Over $200 million were fundraised with the RNC in the aftermath.
of the election integrity fight while their internal counsel was actually sabotaging our efforts.
And so Ronna McDaniel knew that all this was going on.
She promised the president, Rudy Giuliani and me, I was there, I talked to her, that she would hire Justin Reimer over his, shall we say, unethical position.
And that never happened.
And now when this story is being brought to light because of Michael Wolf's new book, the RNC spokesperson said yesterday to Business Insider that the story was totally false.
So they are now lying again.
And the American people need to know that the RNC is not on President Trump's side.
It's on the side of their own power.
And that's what my monologue is on.
For those who don't follow you on Twitter, for those who haven't seen the context to all of this, so what we're talking about is the chair of the RNC, who is niece to Mitt Romney,
Rona Romney McDaniel is apparently lying about the efforts to shut down the investigation of last year's election and is protecting this person, Reimer, the RNC lawyer, who basically didn't want you or Giuliani or Carrick or anybody else to get to the bottom of last year's election.
Is that a fair summary?
Absolutely, and it wasn't just Justin Riemer.
It was actually a lot of the lawyers and people within the RNC, but we're specifically talking about Justin Riemer, yes.
And so Lana knew that this was all going on, and then yesterday when I called her out for it and said, why is the RNC saying the story is false?
You know it's true.
You know I have the receipts emailed.
Her response, Seb, was to simply block me on Twitter because she doesn't want to be confronted with the truth.
Rona, if you're listening, if somebody at the RNC is listening, I need to know why you're blocking President Trump's former attorney, chair of the Election Integrity Alliance.
Do you not want And are you or are you not telling the truth about what happened after the election and your attempt to shut down an investigation of that stolen election?
Jenna, tell us as much as you can because people need to watch or just at least give us an indication.
What are you going to cover tonight?
What is your plan for tonight's Just The Truth?
Yeah, so I'm going to be talking about all of this.
I will put out the text of the emails that were forwarded to me that were written by Justin Reimer so that everyone can see exactly what was going on in November 2020.
And remember, this is while the RNC was claiming to support the election integrity efforts and with fundraising off of Donald Trump's name and off of what the legal team was doing, their own chief counsel was laughing at the efforts and saying that this is never going to work and it's a Did you hear that?
She's going to have a special announcement.
Well, I don't want to miss it!
Follow her, JennaEllisESQ, on all the relevant platforms.
We are going to tell the truth of what's really going on in the RNC.
And I'll also have a special announcement that no one is going to want to miss.
Did you hear that?
She's going to have a special announcement.
Well, I don't want to miss it.
Follow her, Jenna Ellis ESQ, on all the relevant platforms.
The show is just the news, just the truth.
Jenna, you said something before we came on live on radio.
And I'd like you, if you can remember or just paraphrase yourself, what is the relationship of the GOP to, oh, I don't know, the truth and to the future of President Trump?
So...
Yeah, well, you know, we were talking earlier, Seb, about how the GOP doesn't care about the truth.
They only care about their own power.
They care about staying in power, and they care about fundraising in order to maintain their power.
And so when the truth is on their side, great.
When the truth isn't on their side, they manipulate the talking point, they'll backstab President Trump, they'll backstab whoever they need to, because The RNC is only concerned about their own political power and that's something that they are intentionally lying to the American people when they're fundraising off of a political position and then they're not actually supporting it or when they will undermine it when it only suits their position.
And so someone in D.C.
and Washington, and that someone has been Donald Trump, came to this city in order to expose all of the rhinos and in order to expose the deep swamp corruption.
And that's something that I am very proud to have worked for Donald Trump, continue to support Donald Trump, because he stands for the truth and every conservative and every American who's proud to be an American needs to stand for the truth.
And we need to call out the RNC for their blatant lies.
There's a reason why the following phrase is trending.
Hashtag, Rona's got to go.
She's Jenna Ellis.
Watch her show tonight.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
Your calls next here on America First.
All right, she dropped.
Okay, Mike's alive once again.
Mics are live!
Let's go.
I need more of these things.
Lozenges.
Lozenges!
Love my Swiss lozenges.
Alright!
Brent, Judy, Ray.
Oh, give me Glenn.
Mic's on or off?
On's fine.
Hey, Glenn.
Hey, Mr. Gorka.
How you doing?
Good.
What's your point?
What's your question?
It was just what you and MJ spoke about earlier.
I have reservations about J.D.
Vance.
I don't always have to agree with everybody, like you, yourself, to respect him.
When he came on about a week and a half ago and said something to the extent I apologized about everything I said about Trump, I asked myself, is that a person principled with a backbone that would say that?
I mean, I love Trump.
I think he... I'm a Latino-American.
You know, I'm a millennial.
I'm young.
I think Donald Trump is...
He was golden.
I don't understand.
So apologizing means you don't have a backbone?
It often means the opposite.
It means you actually have a backbone, Glenn.
No, nothing wrong with apologizing.
But you're saying he apologized, therefore he doesn't have a backbone.
I don't understand your logic.
Let me say this.
Let me clarify it.
You know when people get caught and they finally come out and say, I'm sorry?
You always ask yourself, are you sorry you got caught?
Or are you really remorseful?
That's my point.
I don't know if he's really remorseful.
Maybe he has a change of heart, right?
But a lot of the things he said, when Trump was running, and we could have used that support, then I ask myself now, are you just, do you need that support?
And the reason why you're coming out, I don't know this, sir, you know, Dr. Gorka, I'm just saying this is, this is the sniff test that I smell.
That's why I'm kind of with MJ earlier.
I'm not trying to push back on your heart.
I'm just saying is that's, I think the reason maybe people like MJ and I, Do feel the way we do feel about him, if that makes sense.
That's all what it is.
I get it.
I get it.
I thought you were calling it.
I thought you were calling it.
No, I get it.
I get it.
Look, you've got to make your own decision.
I'd say the same thing to you that I said to MJ.
Look at what he's written in the last year, and if it rings true for you, good.
If it doesn't, you know, you're an adult.
You're a grown-up.
Make your own decision.
But I appreciate it.
You're right.
I'm not so worried about what he did in last year.
I'm worried about when he gets in there, is he going to then Stand on those positions.
That's my point.
Like people like you have, like me.
Have you read his book?
I have not, I'll be honest.
Why don't you start there?
Why don't you start there?
Try the book and get back to me.
Thank you, Glenn.
I'll do that.
Thank you.
All right.
Have a good day.
Claire, mics.
Yeah.
Neither caller knows what he said that offended him.
Yeah.
It's just, you know, It's going around in really hard right circles that he was anti-Trump way back in the day.
Yeah, and it all started from CNN.
It's coming from the Tim Ryan campaign.
Yeah, no, that's smart.
And they say, where is he?
We tried to get him on the show for a year and a half until last year.
He wasn't in the public.
So it's not like he, you have no idea what he thought.
Who said that?
Who said they tried to get him on the show for a year?
No, I'm saying we did before.
Oh, Vance!
He was nowhere in the public for two years.
So you don't even know what he was thinking or saying.
And there's no evidence that anything he said is genuine, you know?
And think about that.
What kind of person has the balls, who wasn't pro-Trump, to say they are now?
Right?
Like Dennis Prager, same thing.
He was originally for Cruz, and then he was like, yeah, I'm for Trump now.
I made a mistake.
15 seconds, stand by.
Standing by.
This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
You know what it feels like?
It feels like I have a national team.
Why?
Because I come back.
I've been away and you didn't forget me, guys.
And the team ponies up.
They go to the phones.
They call the number.
And it's the good guys.
And it's such a good... Isn't that a good feeling, everybody?
Just shout yes.
Yes.
Thank you.
Eric, is that a good feeling?
Yes.
Jeff?
Sure.
Isn't that the most energized you've ever heard, Jeff?
I think it is, because it touches him as well.
Let's go to Brent in Los Angeles.
Line three.
Hello, Brent.
Welcome home, Great Gorka.
It is so good to be back.
This is my other home.
I was so excited to get back in the studio.
In fact, don't tell anybody.
I wasn't supposed to come back till tomorrow.
I came back a little bit early.
But that's okay!
My wife gave me permission.
Brent, how you doing?
I'm doing great.
And you read exquisitely our divinely inspired Declaration of Independence.
Thank you.
I mean, the fact is the Founding Fathers spoke real English like I do.
So, I mean, you know, there's a certain built-in anachronism that works, I think.
And you know, Frederick Douglass, in his transcendent speech, What to the Slave is the Fourth of July, declared their ideas contain saving principles.
And he implored America to, quote, stand by those principles, be true to them on all occasions, in all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost.
And these principles apply today as precisely to emancipating the slaves of Cuba, China, Korea, and the Mexican cartel as America's slaves of days long gone.
Beautifully put, beautifully put.
Let me ask you while we're on the topic, Brent, your reaction to this whole Juneteenth thing.
It's an absurdity.
There's one Independence Day.
It's the Independence Day of Americans.
All Americans.
We have no color here.
We have principles.
But isn't it, and I think it's absurd, I agree that it shouldn't be called Independence anything, but isn't it peculiar that we don't have a holiday to expressly celebrate emancipation?
Isn't that a little weird?
I don't know.
I mean, as a Jew, the emancipation we celebrate is Passover, and so these principles apply to all humanity.
We can share them in common, but the motive behind Juneteenth is not a serious motive.
It's first day back and he brings it as usual.
The concept of emancipation shouldn't apply to just people of a certain skin color.
If you live in our civilization, it applies to all of us.
What a beautiful... Brent!
You brought it.
I'm gonna have to write a fourth book now.
That's it.
So I can give you a book.
Brent, God bless you.
Thank you for calling.
Let's go to Brooklyn, Judy, line five.
How do I follow Brent with that?
Come on!
It's tough!
I know, but you can bring it, Brooke!
I can bring it!
Come on!
Alright, well I'm going to talk about something very simple.
It's called anti-constitutional communist issues.
With regard to gun control, our lovely Biden, and guess what?
Didn't she say lovely Biden?
Lovely Biden!
Yeah, lovely Biden.
And our lovely Eric Adams, who thinks he's mayor already, he's going to talk to Biden about gun control.
Can you imagine?
So who does Adams think?
I've seen this in the last 24 hours.
It's as if he's been anointed.
What's going on?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Well, you know what's going on?
The integrity.
I wonder if the integrity of the election... I mean, come on.
They're not even giving Curtis a chance.
They're not even... It's crazy.
But you know what?
Let me tell you something, Dr. Gorka, and everyone else.
The problem is not gun control.
The problem is crime control, okay?
Yes!
Where the Democrats, with their ridiculous policies, Those policies should be reversed.
Let me give you two examples, like bail reform.
Hello?
Where these repeat criminals go rampant and do everything, even murder, and it's fine, and they'll come back.
They'll never come back.
And then how about the defunding police stuff, where the police are now personally liable to be sued legally against them?
My goodness, you know, I want to tell you, Dr. Glukhov, Switzerland has hardly any crime.
Do you know why?
Because every grown man has an assault rifle in his house.
Legally.
No, they're all in the army.
They're all in the army, just like Israel.
And there's no crime because they all have guns.
You know what?
That's the way you protect real crime.
Judy, I'm going to see your crime control and I'm going to raise it.
We don't need gun control.
We don't need crime control.
We need Democrat control.
What do you think of that?
Yes, I love it.
I love it.
Diabolical Democrat control.
Well done.
It's great to be back.
Thank you, Judy, and another member of the team.
We're going to hold him over till the next segment.
Why?
Because we have to earn a crust here.
We have to pay the rent.
He's Ray from Livermore!
Don't go anywhere.
Just hide out in that tall grass.
Keep safe.
Keep that OP going and we'll get to Ray momentarily.
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Titles.
Morgan and or Ellis.
Ellis.
Rona, Romney, McDaniel has to go.
Yep.
Agreed.
Morgan.
Biden is enriching the cartels or something like that?
Yeah, that's good.
Okay.
That's good.
Biden is enriching the cartels.
Alrighty then.
Alright, let's have a look.
Oh, you're looking at the, uh, copy?
This show sure is flying by today.
Oh yeah.
Hang on.
Thank you.
Vote Democrat?
Don't be so bloody deaf, man.
I'd rather be dragged stark naked through a field of broken glass.
Chad!
How many cuts have I used today?
Gosh.
One?
Maybe?
I feel so guilty!
We're gonna get to that.
We'll have some cuts.
We've got some doozies, thanks to Mr. G. But I said we couldn't talk to Ray.
And that's what we're gonna do in Livermore, line 4!
Hey, Ray!
Welcome home, Dr. G. It's great to have you back.
Thank you.
The fill-ins are great.
They're all wonderful.
And thank you for Andrew Klavan.
Did a fantastic job.
And all of that.
But let's go straight to the business.
Oh, I mean Rolling Thunder, Dr. G. I like that.
I like that, too.
I like that, too.
My voice is a little bit out of practice, but I think we can get back to the Rolling Thunder soon enough.
But caller MJ seems to have set the tone today, or the pace.
Yes.
And, you know, there's reason for what she says.
And the caller in the show Between Shows made a point about some apologies aren't genuine.
But what separates Christians, I think, from the rest of the world is forgiveness.
In fact, that we will be forgiven to the same level that we give forgiveness unto others.
And that's a very, very strong motivation to be forgiving.
And grace and mercy, those are Christian traits, but the left has abandoned them completely.
Those are now conservative traits, because in the world, in the life of cancel culture, you cannot be forgiven.
There is no grace.
There is no forgiveness.
So true.
Once you've made a mistake, you cannot come back.
And if JD Vance is genuine in his apology, uh he welcome back i didn't like trump at first either i didn't trust him i thought he was in it for just another show you know just another tv show to him but you know what his deeds and his work showed me the man is genuine you may not like his words you may not like his golf swing but he puts it on the green brother and uh that's that's it so let's unpack this a little bit because this is so crucial and
And first things first, after the last 50 years, I get it.
I get it, MJ.
I get the leeriness that, you know, we've been burnt so often.
We've trusted people to do what they say they're going to do, and they don't.
That applies to anybody.
You can only, only be finely judged by your actions and not just your words.
So that applies to anybody.
JD included.
But at the end of the day, there's this far deeper issue that you raise when it comes to grace versus the cancel culture.
At what point do we say that it's good, and we reward people who say, I got it wrong, this is why I got it wrong, and this is why I've changed my mind.
If you do that on the left, what happens?
You are unpersoned.
You are destroyed.
You are crushed.
There's no forgiveness.
At least on our side, we should be able to evince a little bit of grace.
And at the end of the day, he will be judged by what he does.
But again, it's primary sources.
People, you have to listen to what this man has said over time.
And he didn't flick a switch two months ago.
MJ, it's just not wrong.
I've been following J.D.
Vance, since I was in the White House, since somebody called Steve Bannon said, you've got to read this book, and I read it, and as far as I'm concerned, it's an honest transition, and we shall see, but at the end of the day, I'm putting my money behind J.D.
Vance.
What is your reaction as a man who's worn the cloth of the Republic, who understands national security and geopolitics, the events happening just 70 miles off our southerly shores?
You know what my first reaction is?
Bad timing.
Just like when the Iranians had their green thing.
It's bad timing because this should have happened under our last president and they would have seen help.
They would have had a chance.
Under this president, I don't think they're going to have a chance anymore than the Iranians missed their chance by their uprising during Obama.
It's sad.
Hopefully they're strong and they'll fight.
Hopefully Cubans here can somehow fight with them, and I mean that just in, you know, I don't mean taking up arms necessarily.
No, no Bay of Pigs, no Bay of Pigs needed, right?
No, no, but what I mean is that they could use the income that this country has allowed them to help support their brothers in country in some way.
Well, and then we need to pray as Christians, because I believe in the power of prayer, and so let's pray for those folks for their freedom.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Thank you, Dr. G. Thank you, thank you, Ray.
He always calls us from work.
He's a busy man, and God bless you for being an example of the people who built this nation.
Let me say one thing with regards to Cuba.
That is, at the end of the day, look, the aphorism that apocryphally maybe was tied to Stalin about who cares about the Pope, how many tank divisions has he got, it stands.
It stands.
But what's fascinating about the last 48 hours that I don't think we have ever seen since the revolution in Cuba 70 years ago.
We've never seen the police on the side of the demonstrators.
And I'm not saying all of them, but there's been footage of some police officers peacefully supporting what the Cubans are doing.
That's the beginning of the end, potentially, because unarmed civilians cannot change a regime.
Whether it's Ceausescu in Romania, Christmas 1989.
Whether it's the Hungarian Revolution that brought ten days of freedom to the benighted people of my parents' nation.
At some point, The forces of the totalitarian state, at least elements of it, have to hive off and cleave to the revolutionaries, members of the police, members, as happened with the Communist Army of Hungary, some of whom gave their weapons to the freedom fighters.
That's when the beginning of the end is initiated for these regimes.
And the longer they last, The more fragile they become.
This has nothing to do with the coronavirus.
Nothing to do with vaccines.
This is about the crushing of the human soul that occurs in every Marxist and Communist state.
Ray's right.
Let's pray for the Cuban people that they can liberate themselves because that's what we need.
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Our live.
It's great to hear all the regulars.
Yeah.
Good stuff.
It's everybody.
It was clown car.
Clown car?
As in, you know, just all jumping out.
A bunch of them piling up into one tiny little call board.
Is this so they don't get a quorum in the vote?
Yeah, there's 27 days till the end of the session.
Wow.
So ridiculous.
Yeah, somebody found their flight.
They're gonna be at Dulles at like 8 tonight.
Ooh.
Or maybe it's 8 tomorrow?
Let me see.
It should be like a greeting party or something.
It can't be, because I think they already left.
It's got to be eight tonight.
Yeah.
That's great.
Representing the people.
Escape.
Get on a private jet.
Unbelievable.
Okay, we've got to come up with a cut.
What should we come up with?
Which is the best DJT cut, Geoff?
Best DJT?
We have like four of them.
What is 5?
What on earth is 5?
Yes, you should play it.
Look at his suit.
Oh my gosh.
Probably... 2 or 1.
2 or 1.
2 is from the speech, 1 is from the interview.
Coming in with two.
Coming in with cut two, which is 29 seconds long.
30 seconds.
There's a photo of them all in the van, the Texan, Texas representatives.
Oh really?
And there's just like a, just like a 30 rack and Miller Lite, which is just, I don't know.
I imagine voting for somebody and they're like, we're just going to bool out with a 30 rack.
All right, 15 seconds.
Standing by, coming in.
It's very simple.
If you support defunding the police, vote for the radical left Democrats.
And you see what's happening to the cities where they defunded the police.
There's never been anything like it.
If you want more police and more cops on the streets, vote for America First Republicans.
Or, let's put it very simply, vote for MAGA.
Make America Great Again.
MAGA.
MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.
Love it.
Vote for MAGA.
That was President Trump at CPAC this weekend.
We've got more cuts for you, but let's go from the sublime to the ridiculous.
Sean Penn, I think he's off his meds.
Cut five!
Particularly during the testing period during the Trump administration, the maddening news, you know, it really felt like there was Someone in a machine gun gunning down communities that were the most vulnerable from a turret at the White House.
I miss that footage.
People getting machine gunned down from the White House.
I guess he's a fan of Cuba, isn't he?
Because he's a big fan of Venezuela, isn't he, Sean Penn?
I wonder if he's made any comments about what's happening on the streets of Havana.
I doubt it.
Get back on your medicine.
Let's stay on the topic of crime waves and voting manga.
Neil in Georgia, line one.
Welcome, Neil.
Dr. Gorka, welcome.
Pleasant day to you, sir.
Thank you, thank you.
What brings you to our show today, Neil?
Well, I just listened to your recent call where the young lady talked about needing crime control and you raised her Democrat control.
I'd like to see that and raise you Democrat gun control.
I mean, work with the policies that you espouse.
If you want to vote Democrat, why don't you hand in your guns and show that, you know, put your guns where your mouth is.
You mean the Democrats shouldn't have armed security?
Is that what you're talking about?
Oh, no, I don't mean armed security.
I mean your average Democrat, because listening to Mike Gallagher today with the Pew Research poll, which is an unbiased poll, of course, they show that people that identify as progressive or liberal are much more, have a much higher probability of later being diagnosed with mental illness.
So, if you look at all your mass shootings and take them one by one and you look at the people, let's say, physically responsible for those shootings, You'll find that most of them identify as liberals or progressives.
Yeah no this is this is so true actually this morning my my good friend Chris Plant said on his show that you know the trouble is if you want to stop gun crime in America you've got to stop Democrats.
Why?
Look at Chicago.
Chicago is a bloodbath every weekend.
Last weekend over a hundred people shot and I guarantee you I guarantee you of the more than a hundred shooters Not one.
Let's give you one.
Maybe one of them is a registered Republican.
We don't need gun control in this country.
We need Democrat control.
Then we'd be safe.
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This is America First, and here's your host, Dr. Sebastian Gorka.
I'm back!
Is it scary?
I hope not.
You're all my friends.
You know who it's scary for?
Liberals.
Liberals like... Oh, I'm gonna go there.
I'm sorry.
Michael Avenatti!
I guess you can't be president now, can you?
I mean, can you be a president if you've been a felon?
I don't know, what's the constitutional requirement there?
Anyway, let's have some fun because they loved him on the left.
I don't know if they like him now.
Cut 14!
He's Donald Trump's worst nightmare, Michael Avenatti!
Joining us once again is Michael Avenatti.
Let's bring in Michael Avenatti.
Michael Avenatti.
Michael Avenatti.
Michael Avenatti, thank you very much.
He's out there saving the country.
Don Meacham says he may be the savior of the republic.
You are something of a folk hero now.
I owe Michael Avenatti an apology.
I've been saying enough already, Michael.
I've seen you everywhere.
What do you have left to say?
I was wrong, brother.
You have a lot to say.
I am just dying to hear what you think.
These people all like you.
I'm the only person right here Donald Trump fears more than Robert Miller.
We think you guys are the tip of the spear that's going to take down Donald Trump.
Michael Avenatti's a beast.
Okay, that's true.
He's a beast.
He's a beast.
I hand it to her, and I hand it to Michael Avenatti.
He has a bigger calling here, that being a lawyer is minimal compared to what he's doing.
No one has talked tougher directly to Donald Trump on TV than Michael Avenatti, and Donald Trump is afraid to mention his name.
That's fascinating.
Donald Trump is terrified of Michael Avenatti.
Trump will run for his money more than anybody else, Michael Avenatti.
Existential threat to the Trump presidency.
The Democrats could learn something for you.
You are messing with Trump a lot more than they are.
He has no doubt created sheer panic in Donald Trump's very fragile mind.
Michael Avenatti is laying down the law as guest co-host.
And is he really thinking about running for president?
One reason why I'm taking you seriously as a contender is because of your presence on cable news.
You look at the field of Democrats right now and Avenatti's the one who stands out.
If they decide they value a fighter most, people would be foolish to underestimate Michael Avenatti.
I have always said that they need a fighter.
Look, I mean, we're going to continue to use the media.
I think we've used it with great success.
I want that on a loop.
Can we get like a three hour loop on that and just put it on social media?
Somebody on my team, work it out.
DM me.
I need you to help me get that on a loop.
I just realized with that montage, God bless the person who made that, I just realized Stealth has a really weird voice.
Why is his voice so squeaky?
It's so weird.
Should you be in media with a squeaky voice?
I mean, yes, Zachary Petrizzo.
You're never going to be in media.
Did you see?
We've got to play that video.
We've got to find that video.
He was at CPAC and the blaze, the blaze put him in front of a camera and it was delicious.
He's such a sad person.
Are you watching, Zachy?
Hi.
Let's talk about CPAC.
Let's talk about the president, his interview with Fox from CPAC, what he had to say there as well.
But first, why is Kamala Harris such a racist?
I mean, it's not just Sleepy Creepy.
It's Kamala as well.
Did you hear what she had to say about rural voters?
Cut nine.
Is agreeing to voter ID one of those compromises that you'd support?
I don't think that we should Underestimate what that could mean.
Because in some people's mind, that means, well, you're going to have to Xerox or photocopy your ID to send it in to prove you are who you are.
Well, there are a whole lot of people, especially people who live in rural communities, who don't.
There's no Kinko's.
There's no Office Max near them.
People have to understand that when we're talking about voter ID laws, Be clear about who you have in mind and what would be required of them to prove who they are.
Of course people have to prove who they are.
But not in a way that makes it almost impossible for them to prove who they are.
My brain is starting to bleed here.
Hang on a second.
So, photocopying your ID, she said at the end, is almost impossible.
We've put men on the moon.
We've developed three vaccines for the China virus in 11 months.
But photocopying your ID is quote-unquote almost impossible.
Wow!
I mean, I think people in Cambodia probably can photocopy.
I think people in New Delhi can probably photocopy their IDs.
But Kamala Harris thinks people in America, outside of the wonderful metropolis, can't do that.
Secondly, and maybe, I mean, apologies if it's my immigrant status that I came here and became an American as an immigrant.
Maybe I've just missed something.
But let me ask my team.
Have you guys voted in the past?
Chad, have you voted?
Yeah.
Eric, have you voted?
Of course.
Jeff, have you voted?
Yes.
What was your involvement?
Let's start with you, Jeff.
How relevant was a photocopier to your voting?
None at all.
None?
Nope.
Never used that.
You didn't have to photocopy your ID to vote?
No, because I would have used my real one if they asked for it, but I live in a state that doesn't ask for one.
Because I vote in person.
That's another problem.
But you would have... So if you were asked to prove who you were, you could have pulled out your ID.
The real one, yeah.
Yeah, the real one.
Well, so here's the rub.
The subtext of what Vice President Harris is saying is that it's insinuating that it's all mail-in.
That's what she said.
None of it's in person.
Like, if this is in person, it's not even a problem because all these people in rural communities have IDs.
Stop, stop.
You're taking over my show and I need to... First, Eric.
Eric!
Yes?
Have you needed to involve a photocopier in your prior voting in America?
Nope, I have not.
Because like Jeff, I come from California.
Enough!
Chad, have you needed to use a Xerox machine?
No, Dr. G. Okay.
Now, here's the second part that you alluded to.
Her implication is very clear.
She's saying you have to send in a copy of your ID.
Why?
Does she know about COVID-22?
Does she have a little kind of somebody in her little in her ears whispered, you know, there's going to be another virus.
And we're going to have to vote by May.
I'm doing a Biden.
I'm sorry.
Stop it.
And on top of that, and here's the last one again, I apologies if you know this this this poor immigrant has misunderstood something.
I think I've done an absentee vote once.
I think I was out of the country in the last 13 years and I was.
I was working for the DoD in Germany and I had to get an absentee voting ballot.
But I didn't have to photocopy my ID.
So what the hell has photocopying my ID got to do with voting?
Am I confused, Shad?
Look, it's obvious that it's a bad faith argument for one reason alone.
You're being logical!
Stop it!
I know, I know, I know.
It's a bad faith argument for one reason alone, and that's that she said, you have to prove who you are, but not with your ID.
Okay, then how?!
Like, literally, give me one reason!
There is a way to prove who you are, and it's called your driver's license!
Right, right, right, perfect.
You got it, you got it, you got it, you got it.
There is...
You know what this is proof of?
She's so dumb.
She's as dumb as a rock that has had its brain removed.
That's how dumb she is.
This poor immigrant, naturalized American, can identify the multiplicity of gaping lacunae in her argument.
How long was that cut?
What was that cut?
That was 50 seconds.
It was all garbage.
It was lies.
Let's talk about somebody who actually has a brain.
Let's listen to the 45th President of the United States from his CPAC speech, cut for play cut.
Republicans must never waver in demanding that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Can't let it happen.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
But it's not only the Second Amendment that the leftists want to destroy.
They are hard at work to abolish the First Amendment as well.
Probably all amendments when you get right down to it.
Why not?
The radical left and big tech's attack on free speech is unlawful, it's unconstitutional, and it is completely un-American.
To protect the constitutional rights and liberties of every citizen, this week I filed a major class action.
A lot of people are joining.
And it's big.
It's big.
He's no big Trump supporter, but even Alan Dershowitz realizes how big it is.
Cut seven.
What's his take?
Play cuts.
But what no one can deny is this is an important matter in America.
Big companies using the First Amendment to suppress free speech.
And the radicals on the left who say this is not an important case simply don't know what they're talking about.
The radicals on the left don't understand.
Which is great.
Absolutely superb.
That's exactly how we want it.
More class action suits until Silicon Valley's masters of the universe are broken up, just like we did with Mar-Bell.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
This is America First.
Fair.
That was good.
Let's post that.
That was fun.
She really is stupid, isn't she?
I mean, just so dumb.
But when do you photocopy your ID to vote?
Never!
Never!
Unless you're doing it by mail.
But even when you're doing it by mail, you don't photocopy your ID because they know who you are.
You have to request it by your social security number and you don't photocopy your social security card.
And on top of that, rural Americans all have driver's licenses.
Because it's the only way to get around!
Because they're living in the countryside!
And what is there less of?
They're fine with the vaccine passports on your smartphone.
Is there less IDs in this country or smartphones?
Oh, yes.
There's probably 20, 30 million people that don't have an actual iPhone.
There's more phones in America than there are people.
Yeah.
But there's a lot of people that don't have a smartphone.
No, correct.
Correct.
All right.
Let's do last one.
Midas Girl Group 60.
- 360. - Sounds good.
Hang on, this is 123 words.
123 words.
That's super slow, right?
Thank you.
Money for Midas Gold.
Uh, alright.
Is he on?
Mic's on.
And yes, he is on the line and the mics are on.
Mr. Starbuck.
Hello, Dr. Gorka.
How are you doing?
Good, good, good, good.
You must be excited.
I am.
I'm excited.
Simultaneously excited and simultaneously disappointed that we have such cowards leading our country.
Yeah, no, that's a good point.
The campaign site is Starbuck 2022, right?
Yes.
Okay, good.
Excellent.
All right.
All right.
Let's, um, do we have, we've got that cut we've already used.
We haven't used the waving American flag cut.
Oh, okay.
Good.
So 15.
All right.
I'll tee up 15.
Okay.
And then we'll go straight to Robbie.
Okay.
Standby.
50 seconds.
Okay.
And Starbucks.
Yep.
2022.com.
Got it.
Okay.
40 seconds.
Standby.
Oh, we need a title for that segment.
Yes.
How dumb is Kamala Harris?
Got it.
How dumb is Kamala Harris?
30 seconds.
30 seconds. 30 seconds.
30 seconds.
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The events happening on the streets of not just Havana, but across the communist nation of Cuba.
Incredible visuals with One thing standing out above all else... Cut 15!
play cuts.
They're calling for liberty And they're raising the American flag.
How fascinating.
I know somebody who has an opinion on all of this because of his heritage.
He is the candidate for the congressional seat in Tennessee's 5th District, Robbie Starbuck.
Welcome back to America First.
Thank you for having me.
And you were right.
I do have some opinions on this.
So explain to our listeners who might have missed the last interview you had with us in front of our millions of listeners and viewers.
Why is today's news important to Robbie Starbuck?
Well, so my family fled Cuba.
They had everything stolen from them by the Castro regime.
And so this is something that's near and dear to my heart.
I actually still have some family that's stuck in Cuba that was never able to make the trip.
And so this is a huge deal for Cuban Americans, for Cubans all over the world that, you know, these people know who are out in the streets now demanding liberty and freedom and showing their love for the United States that we're the beacon of hope.
These people know that they're risking death and imprisonment and torture.
That's what's happened in the past when anyone rose up and to rise up in these numbers They know that this is extremely dangerous.
So this is, this is just incredible.
I'm so proud of them all.
While at the same time, so disappointed in our leadership in America and, and really, you know, in the people here who are afraid to stand up for freedom, because this is, this is a sign, this is a warning to everyone.
This is the road the Democrats are going to take us down.
So this is your chance.
This is your chance to stand up and say no.
Because if you don't do it now, forever hold your peace, we could end up down in that same situation.
And your reaction, your comment that you're excited for what the Cubans are doing, but then you're saddened by who's in the White House and just the fecklessness of their response.
When you see senior Obama officials who now work for the Biden State Department say that, before Biden said anything, tweeting out that, you know, it's great to see people in Cuba protest over the lack of health care and the lack of vaccines, that that's why they're on the streets with the stars and stripes.
Your reaction, Robbie?
So it's interesting.
I watched every video that was trending on social media of what was happening, and I saw some from family sent to me.
And you know what I didn't hear at all in any of the videos?
They didn't talk about COVID and they did not talk about vaccines.
That is not one of the concerns here.
In fact, Cubans are generally very distrustful of the government and are not a group that are, you know, banging on the tables to have something given to them by the government when it comes to vaccines.
So the whole thing is just patently absurd.
The other thing I noticed the Biden administration said, they said, oh, they're exercising their right to protest.
Yes, they're exercising their right to protest and to freedom of speech, which is kind of strange.
Yeah, they don't have that right.
So our State Department knows that.
These people are emotionally and mentally manipulating their low-information left-wing voters into believing a narrative that is entirely divorced from reality.
The reality is Democrats have praised Cuba over and over and over and over again.
They can't rewrite history.
They've praised their healthcare system.
They've said that's what they want for the United States.
We can name them individually, but it would take too long for the segment.
They have done this across the party.
Now, when it's all coming crashing down, what do they do?
Oh, they'll pretend that this is for some other reason.
No, this is the failures of leftism, of the same type of socialism and communistic Mindset that they want to push on to America.
So, this is why it's so critically important.
Anybody who has not woken up yet, if you have somebody in your family who's not woken up yet, this can be the issue to wake them up.
This is what they want for us.
They did the same thing with Venezuela, where they all praised Venezuela, and it was the cool thing on the left, and then when Venezuela, everything came crashing down, they pretended, oh, they didn't do it the right way.
Well, guess what?
They never do it the right way, because leftists are inherently greedy, And they turn it into a greedy oligarchy where they are divorced from any rights to the people because they believe fundamentally that normal working-class people are not good enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves.
I don't believe that.
I believe that the people need to be in control and freedom is the most valuable gift we've been given by God.
Indeed, indeed.
As someone who's been a director, producer, knows the media world and their attitude to the Stars and Stripes, and now as you're running for the 5th Congressional District in Tennessee, can you explain to us the truth with your Cuban heritage of why
Cubans in communist Cuba are walking down the street demanding liberty and of the 200 flags they could choose of other nations, why are they choosing ours?
This nation we've been told is racist, white supremacist.
Why are Cubans waving the stars and stripes, Robbie?
It's very simple.
They know their family members are friends who have made it here to America and have been so blessed with opportunity and freedom historically in the past.
They want the same thing for their families.
They want just opportunity and freedom to exist and to protect their homes and to speak and say what they think without fear of prison or death.
They want their kids To be free more than anything.
I mean, there's so many men and women there who are willing to die right now if it means it secures the freedom of their children.
And that is a really anybody who's a parent knows how deep that is.
And that's what they're going to try so hard to hide from people as this goes on.
And this will go on.
You know, this is growing into something really, you know, we haven't seen before.
And the Biden administration, the Democrats, if they try to change the narrative on this, You make sure every single one of you, everyone out there, remind them of their words and their praise of Cuba.
Biden almost picked a VP, Karen Bass, who's an elected representative of the Democratic Party, who has praised Fidel Castro repeatedly, praised Castro's dictatorship in Cuba repeatedly.
Who called herself a brigadista, which is the term for a socialist, a person who helped take over Cuba and make it a communist dictatorship.
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So with that, we're going over to the border right now, but we're going to the real part of the border where there's real problems, not a part where you look around and you don't see anybody. - - And we're going to admire the wall and how it works, because wherever we have the wall, that's what made the big difference.
It made a tremendous difference.
We're going to go to the real part of the border that matters, and the wall made a difference.
That's President Trump from his recent trip to the border.
We're going to talk to somebody who went there as well, just to check out how his old mission is coming along under a new regime.
He's the former Commissioner for Customs and Border Protection, a good friend of the show, now with the conservative Mothership the Heritage Foundation, Mark Morgan.
Welcome back to America First.
Thanks Sebastian, as always.
So tell us, you went recently, who did you go with, and what did you find?
So first of all, I went with another patriot that you know well, Tom Holman, and we went down there, we joined the President of the United States, we joined Governor Abbott, as well as AG Paxton, and the Director of Texas Public Safety, Steve McGraw.
We know all these players, and look, I think it's important, a couple of the things the President said on your clip was exactly right.
All nine sectors of the border patrol on the southwest border are busy, right?
Even El Paso, when you have 180,000 in a single month.
But make no mistake, The Vice President Harris was a thousand miles away from the epicenter.
And every leader knows if you truly want to understand the magnitude of any crisis, you need to go to the epicenter where it's already happening.
That's where the president went.
That's where Governor Abbott went.
It was well beyond to address political optics and to get some good photo ops.
And here's something that really just made the Trump distinctive from others.
Not only did they go to the border, like the president said, but they also talked about solutions.
They talked about solutions that states could do to do with the federal government that the Biden administration is not doing now to secure our borders and protect American people.
I know it's a naive question.
I know it seems obvious, but you're the man.
You were there at the top decades of service in the U.S.
government, starting with the Marine Corps, then the FBI, and then for DHS.
Mark, how significant were the last four years when it comes to building a physical barrier.
How much does that make your former job, the job of CBP agents and ICE and HSI?
How much of an effect did it have for you and your colleagues?
Sebastian, it's not a naive question.
There aren't words strong enough to articulate how effective that border wall system was.
The Biden administration inherited the most secure border in modern history because of President Trump, including tools like the law.
Look, a lot of our bandwidth is taken up about the illegal immigration crisis we have, but that wall system was not about to keep illegal immigrants out.
It was to secure our borders against the vast threats that we face from outside our borders.
Look, when you create loopholes and open our borders to one crisis, you're opening our borders up to every crisis.
President Trump understood that, and he knew that by giving tools, just for one example, like the wall system, we were going to reduce human trafficking, we were going to reduce gang members and criminal aliens coming across this country, and we were going to reduce the drugs pouring into this country, killing American citizens.
That wall is part of the multi-layered strategy.
Infrastructure, technology, and personnel was an absolute game-changer to safeguard our country.
And in terms of percentages, you don't need a physical barrier everywhere because of the topography and the geography of the United States, but that plus 400 miles that were accomplished under your leadership and President Trump's leadership, how much more do we need to add to that to make it really solid?
Now, look, it shifts all the time.
Sebastian, as you and I have talked about, as the threat shifts, so does the need and what we need and where we need it.
But look, we still have a ways to go.
There's still several hundred miles that we need in key locations.
But look, I was confident.
President Trump had already acquired funding to build another 350 miles of border wall system in key areas.
And he was committed to doing everything he could to continue to get funding and keep putting miles of border up.
And now, since this current governor stopped it, we have other governors like Abbott that has stepped up and is committed that he's going to finish what President Trump started.
If this federal government won't keep Americans safe, it's up to the governors to step in.
Not just border governors.
You see what Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida to help other border governors do their job.
We need to do this for the safety of all Americans.
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Mark, how many years do you have in government, remind me, from Marine Corps to FBI to CBP?
Yeah, you're really going to date me, Sebastian.
Over 35 years of governmental service.
Okay, so you've seen administrations come and go.
You've seen Republicans, you've seen Democrats.
Again, apologies in advance for what may seem to some as a naive question.
Isn't there a point where a situation gets so bad, whoever's in the White House, that they just say, okay, enough with the politics, we got a crisis, we got to solve it.
Because right now, I don't see it, Mark.
Yeah, so Sebastian, I think you're spot on.
Look, those 35 years, I served under six administrations, both Republican and Democrat.
And what I can safely say is, I've never seen an administration Put so much time, energy and effort and misdirection, spin and blatant lies to the American people.
But I do think there's a point where the average American citizen says, hey, look, enough is enough.
I see with my own eyes what's going on.
I don't believe what you're telling me anymore.
I think we're actually there.
Look, the polls across the United States, the national polls, local polls, look right now, Biden is on the wrong side of this.
The American people are waking up, they're educating themselves, and they know that there's a crisis on the border regardless.
This administration keeps telling them that they're not seeing what they're seeing.
So you've left federal service, you can speak your mind and you do regularly on Newsmax, on my show and elsewhere, God bless you, you and your colleagues at Heritage and elsewhere.
Is there, can you walk us through, if there is intransigence, if there's an ideological obstacle at the federal level, they just want open borders, They want to amnesty people, to become Democrat voters, whatever it is.
Can we circumvent that?
Can we save America by going through local channels, through the mayor's office, through the local communities, through the governors?
If the federal government doesn't want to secure America, what can the average American do, Mark?
Yeah, Sebastian, you're spot on.
I couldn't agree more with this line of question.
First of all, right now in the White House, there's two factions, right?
There's ideologues that are there that they don't care.
They're all about open borders.
They're putting America last, every other country first.
And then you have just pure political appointees who are absolutely going to jeopardize our national security for political power.
And that's what we have right now.
And so look, this administration is so again and again, they're going to double down, quadruple down and open our borders because they see a perceived political benefit.
So the last thing that we have, what we've been saying is the last line of defense is just what you said, Sebastian, is the states.
Look, 2022 matters, but Sebastian, you and I have talked about this.
We can't wait for 2022.
We need action now.
You need to get a hold of your state's attorney generals.
You need to get a hold of your state legislature, your state governors, just like Texas.
The AG Paxson has stepped up and pushed back.
The now-governor Abbott of Texas is stepping up, saying he's going to continue to build the wall and actually apply consequences to those that are illegally entering this country.
We need more states to step up and do things.
And what, in your experience, somebody who's been really pushing hard, getting the truth out now since you left the administration, is there one angle that you find works above others?
Is it the plight of the illegal immigrants?
Is it the amount of drugs that's coming in?
Is it the amount of money that the Biden administration is making for the cartels?
What is your If you're giving advice to those who want to help secure the border, what is the best communication strategy that you've seen work, Mark?
Two things.
First, Sebastian, you already mentioned both of them.
One, let's address the inhumanity of open border policies and the inhumanity of the migrants themselves.
Look, when you open your borders, you're encouraging, incentivizing people to put their lives in the hands of cartels.
We know from independent study, young women and children are abused on their journey up here.
Right now, hundreds and hundreds of migrants have died trying to illegally enter this country because of these open border policies.
Once they get here, they're often not just smuggled, but they're trafficked.
The other part of the inhumanity is the public safety issue in the United States.
When you have open borders, that incurs illegal immigration.
You have open borders that's going to encourage Criminal aliens, gangs, and other criminals that are pouring through, making their way to every town, city, and state.
And the last thing that I would say is, really hit home how open borders affects every town, city, and state.
And we can talk about that by battle with drugs, but drugs don't say it's a southwest border.
They make their way into every single neighborhood in this country.
I guarantee you, if you have a meth overdose in Florida, Ohio or New York, that meth came from the southwest border.
We need to do a better job of communicating that open borders affects every town, city and state in this border in this country.
Well, he's doing that job, but let's all be force multipliers.
Let's tell the truth.
Wherever you live across the nation, let's get the word out.
It's not just about safety for Americans.
It's about compassion for these people who are being abused as they're being trafficked.
Often, often into prostitution, into indentured servitude, and of course, the billions.
The literal billions that are being made by the cartels thanks to this administration's policies.
Speak the truth like this man.
30 years plus of service to you, to the American people.
He's Mark Morgan.
Follow him and his colleagues at heritage.org.
I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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It's just a piece of cloth, isn't it?
It's a bright one.
But it's different.
Look at the flags of the world.
Yes, there are some that ape ours.
Some that try to copy ours.
But they came after our flag.
All the others are different.
They're not like ours.
The stripes, the contrasting stripes, the stars representing the constituent states of a federal republic.
But it's not just a piece of cloth.
In fact, It embodies, it exemplifies the word symbol.
Because it's more than just a flag.
I was on that cruise last week and we had to change flags on the main mast, whosever national waters we were in.
No big deal, it's just a requirement.
That flag replaced another flag and off we went.
But the American flag isn't just a marker of a territorial extent of a sovereign piece of territory or water related to that territory.
It's an idea, as I read earlier today from the Declaration.
That flag embodies eternal truths.
Truths related to who we are and our relationship to our Creator.
In its essence, in its marrow, in the soul of that symbol, lies one word.
It's the word the people on the streets of Havana and across the cities and towns of Cuba are calling out right now.
And that word is liberty.
Why?
Why liberty?
Because of being made in the image of our Creator.
The rights endowed to us by that fact.
There is no other explanation for why a human being should be free or should have rights.
None!
None!
If you kill God, everything is permissible.
And ours is and remains the only nation on God's earth founded on that principle of individual liberty and freedom.
As we see Americans here denounce that flag, say it is a symbol of oppression, of racism.
We know the truth.
Because there's only one reason why the people clamoring for freedom across the globe raise our flag.
Because that's what America truly is.
It's great to be back, my friends.
I'm Sebastian Gorka.
Keep your head on a swivel.
Watch your sex.
Hold the line.
Never give up.
Never give in.
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