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	This is
	America First with me, Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm very excited to introduce our guest host for today, Boris Epstein.
	Hello, America!
	Here I am.
	It is an honor and a pleasure to be your host today on America First with the one and only Seb Gorka, my good friend Sebastian.
	Thank you so much for having me, and I hope you are having a wonderful time wherever in the world you are.
	You're a great patriot, a great American, and this is an amazing show.
	We have a pact.
	A packed show for you today, ladies and gentlemen.
	Everything from the huge news in Pennsylvania on the freight train of audits coming to Pennsylvania, to the major lawsuit, major lawsuit by President Trump against the CEOs of Twitter, Facebook, and Google, to what is happening in Arizona, to major action in conservative publishing.
	We have great guests.
	We have Doug Wardlow who's running against Keith Ellison, the anti-Semite Keith Ellison for Attorney General in Minnesota.
	The one and only State Senator Doug Mastriano out of Pennsylvania who is leading the charge, leading the charge, to do a full forensic audit in Pennsylvania.
	We've got Kate Hartz and Louise Burke from All Seasons Press.
	We've got Jason Miller, the CEO of Getter, Getter which has gotten over 1 million sign-ups in just In just the first three days, and we've got Patrick O'Donnell, a war historian.
	So it's going to be a great show, a packed show.
	Let's lead off with the 45th, and I hope the 47th President of the United States, talking about the major lawsuit that was dropped today in the Southern District of Florida.
	Let's play cut.
	For you this morning to announce a very important And very beautiful, I think, development for our freedom and our freedom of speech.
	And that goes to all Americans.
	Today, in conjunction with the America First Policy Institute, I'm filing, as the lead class representative, a major class action lawsuit against the big tech giants, including Facebook, Google, and Twitter.
	As well as their CEOs, Mark Zuckerberg, Sundar Pichai, and Jack Dorsey.
	Three real nice guys.
	A major development, I will tell you as an attorney, and I studied class action lawsuits extensively at Georgetown Law, that this is groundbreaking and this is legally extremely sound.
	AFPI, American First Policy Institute, with Brooker Owens at the head, you've got Pam Bondi, former Florida Attorney General, you've got Cole, who's a leading attorney, and of course President Trump, the leading plaintiff, and they're going after in a class action lawsuit against Twitter, Facebook, Google, which owns YouTube, and then their CEOs personally as well.
	This is a legal thunderclap.
	This is absolutely groundbreaking, and it's going to be very interesting to see where it goes.
	It's going to be also very interesting to see who else joins the lawsuits.
	And President Trump very specifically called on others to join these lawsuits, and there's absolutely no doubt whatsoever That censorship has gotten out of control in this beautiful country of ours.
	Absolutely out of control.
	For a sitting president at the time, and now, for a time, a former president, to be banned by Twitter, by Facebook, by YouTube, by other outlets, you know, I think Pinterest banned him, you know.
	Can't really imagine President Trump putting up, you know, fancy pictures on Pinterest and talking about the things he wants to buy for his house, but Pinterest went above and beyond as well.
	But in all seriousness, for these major outlets, which are the locations of exchange of ideas today, these are the marketplace of ideas today, to ban a sitting president, now, for a time again, hopefully a former president, It is unacceptable, it is divisive, and it is un-American.
	And you already have had, you know, Jack Dorsey in front of the Congress and Zuckerberg talking, well, you know, we're not sure, was this done right?
	Maybe we would have done it differently.
	We know, we know that Dorsey, Zuckerberg, and others put their thumb, forget their thumb, they put their whole arm, they put their whole bodies on the scale for the artist formerly known as Joe Biden Whatever's left of Joe Biden, that's our president today.
	The only example one needs, the only example one needs is the laptop from hell.
	Why in the world did Twitter, Facebook, and the rest of them censor, prevent from being published, keep from discussion the Hunter Biden laptop?
	We know what's on that laptop.
	America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani has told America what's on the laptop.
	Daily Mail has published it.
	There's illegality after illegality, crime after crime, everything from drug use to prostitution to potentially bribery.
	All of Hunter's dealings with China, all of his dealings with Ukraine, and so on and so on.
	Bragging about being in touch with a top spy from China.
	All of this is unbelievably pertinent, was unbelievably pertinent, and that is why Twitter kept it from being published.
	Twitter banned the New York Post for a time because they were publishing this information.
	Facebook did the same in terms of keeping this information suppressed.
	Absolutely unacceptable, and here we are.
	Here we are.
	Now President Trump is stepping up and saying he is not going to put up with it.
	He is not going to accept these social media giants quieting him, silencing him, and not allowing him to speak, not allowing him to speak to the American people in the way they expect him to.
	Let's not forget that President Trump was elected president because he was able to authentically connect with Americans.
	I will never forget when I was communications director for the inauguration, At the night of the inaugural, I was at one of the balls, and I was being interviewed by Sean Hannity, who's a good friend.
	And Sean said to me, you know, Boris, if you had to describe in a sentence or even shorter, what is the reason why President Trump was elected?
	I said, one word.
	It is authenticity.
	It is that authenticity in connecting to Americans, in connecting to the voters, in connecting to the populace of all backgrounds.
	No matter your ethnicity, no matter your color, no matter your economic standing, President Trump was able to connect, and that is why Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, and others are trying to keep him down, but now he's coming on back at them.
	And this is a very powerful act, a very powerful lawsuit, and it'll be very interesting to see how they respond.
	I will tell you, expect right now there's going to be motions to dismiss, and there's going to be a lot of Hate from the left, saying, oh, this is all a ridiculous joke.
	It is not.
	These entities are illegally censoring a public figure.
	They have no reason to do this.
	And here's their biggest problem.
	They're going to say, well, we do this for other leaders.
	But you know what their issue is?
	That they didn't censor President Xi of China and the Chinese Communist Party.
	For a long time, they did nothing to censor Iran, the terror regime, the murderous regime in Iran.
	So their president was able to spout off anti-American, terrorist, anti-Israel hateful things.
	So they were not censoring murderers, terrorists.
	When the Chinese Communist Party was tweeting about how the Uyghurs are being treated totally fine, when we know there's concentration camps in China, Twitter did nothing about it for a long time.
	So they're going to have a big problem in that it is clear as day that they allowed actual murderers, actual terrorists, actual perpetrators of concentration camps and mass murder to continue to be on their platform.
	But they kicked off an American president, President Trump, and they used January 6th to do it.
	And you've got idiots like Matt Dowd saying, oh, January 6th was worse than 9-11.
	That is disgusting.
	One person, one person was killed on January 6th at the Capitol.
	And that was Ashley Babbitt.
	And we don't know what happened.
	So that's the truth.
	That's the God's honest reality.
	And we want to get to the bottom of that.
	A lot more to talk about.
	More on the lawsuit.
	More on Getter.
	Jason Miller coming up.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Let's get back to the show with Boris Epstein.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	It's an honor to be here.
	I am hosting America First today.
	A key outlet for all things MAGA, and not many out there more MAGA than my next guest, our first guest for today, my good friend Jason Miller.
	Jason, how are you?
	Boris, I'm doing great.
	Great to hear you on the radio as well.
	When are these guys going to wake up and give you the Boris hour?
	I think that many people are saying it would be highly listened to.
	Well, many people are saying I've got the face for radio, but now it's all on the video as well.
	And we're on Rumble.
	Rumble.com slash SubGorka.
	Rumble.com slash SubGorka.
	The Boris hour, Boris two hours, Boris three hours, I would not turn it away, but here we are, guest hosting today for the one and only SubGorka on America First, Jason Miller, the Senior Communications Advisor on 2016, a vital, vital, vital part.
	of President Trump's win of our win in 2016, senior advisor on 2020, and right now the CEO of groundbreaking, earth-shattering social media upstart, Getter.
	Jason, we want to hear all about it.
	Tell us about Getter.
	You only launched a few days ago and you're already at 1 million subscribers or more.
	Tell us all about it.
	We're having a lot of fun.
	So, Getter is the platform, the new social media platform.
	It's available on the Apple Store.
	It's available on Google Play.
	You can go right to the getter.com, G-E-T-T-R.com website and download the app if you have an Android or Samsung Galaxy for your phone.
	And this is a really cool platform, really designed as a marketplace of ideas.
	People can come and don't have to worry about getting cancel-cultured and de-platformed simply because they are speaking their political opinions.
	And so we're calling it the Marketplace of Ideas.
	We're really trying to take that to heart.
	Longer posts, you can have up to 777 characters, longer videos, up to three-minute videos.
	You can import all of your tweets.
	Which is a really cool function, so that way no one can ever eliminate or delete all of your hard work, your intellectual property.
	It's really fun things that are coming up in the coming months, including live streaming, a whole bunch of more languages that are coming on board, online appreciation, tipping, so we can get content creators, I think, who will want to join our site and be able to Make money and keep their money and not send as much of it to some of these other platforms.
	It's a lot of fun.
	As you said, we're over a million users.
	Fastest social media platform in history to ever hit that mark.
	And there are cool people on there.
	I mean, obviously, Boris, you're on there.
	Thank you very much for creating an account.
	Dinesh D'Souza, Secretary Pompeo, Secretary Carson, our good friend Steve Cortez, Jen Pellegrino, Natalie Harp, Dan Balls.
	There are all sorts of conservatives that are on there, and we think this is really going to take off and go global.
	We've already got President Bolsonaro's son just joined from Brazil.
	Brazil is actually our number two highest country on launch day.
	We have a lot of activity in Saudi Arabia and Canada and Japan, so it's really fun to see all these people embracing free speech.
	Jason, a few questions for you in terms of a getter and where it's going.
	Do you see this as being conservatives only?
	Are there going to be, you know, members of the mainstream media?
	Do you expect for Democrats to join?
	I mean, you've got people who are in favor of a free exchange of ideas who are from all walks of life, right?
	Populists, libertarians, left, right, center.
	So hopefully we'd see people who are not just conservatives join.
	Do you expect for that to happen?
	Absolutely.
	And keep in mind, outside of the U.S., most people don't wake up and say, I'm a Republican or Democrat.
	In fact, basically nobody around the world wakes up and does that.
	But also the same thing, I think, the U.S., the media has forced people to become so polarized.
	But most people don't wake up and say, I'm a conservative or I'm a liberal.
	But here's where people can come together and embrace this idea of free speech, the rejection of cancel culture.
	And in fact, I just interviewed someone this afternoon Yeah, that makes sense.
	reach person to start reaching out to free speech minded Democrats and libertarian folks and people from all the political spectrum who want to come on board.
	And so making a very serious play to get people from all backgrounds.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	I heard NBC joined.
	Is that correct?
	I need to go and double check that.
	They're big names that are constantly jumping on, but I did have a conversation with them over the weekend and they said they were going to be creating an account.
	So hopefully that happened and you saw, but we're excited.
	We want, and you're going to soon see the getter widgets start popping up in stories on some of your favorite websites.
	So it's fun.
	The number one thing I usually get back from folks is A, They like seeing some of their favorite people on there.
	They like being able to follow them.
	There's no shadow banning.
	There's no playing with the algorithm.
	So you never see conservatives.
	In fact, for example, Dinesh D'Souza is one where I follow him on Twitter.
	I would never see any of his posts.
	I would never see anything he wrote because, magically, he shadow-banned on Twitter.
	You don't have any of that nonsense.
	But I think, too, it's just a clean look.
	It's easy to use.
	It's a clean look.
	It's not clunky.
	It's very smooth.
	And I think for too long, Conservatives have been told, oh, you can have your own platform, but we're going to give you junior varsity technology, or you can't have something that's nice.
	Now, this is something that's open to everybody across the political spectrum.
	It's cutting-edge technology, and you can be proud of it.
	And have there been a lot of years, a lot of resources put into the platform from what I'm hearing is this was something that's been worked on for a long time before the launch, is that correct?
	Yeah, this thing's something that's been worked on for upwards of a year.
	A couple of key moments during that year were obviously the media and big tech come together, collusion really, you talk about collusion, to cover up the Hunter Biden story last fall.
	Right.
	And then when President Trump was kicked off of social media in the earlier part of this year, those were two of the kind of pivotal moments that really accelerated things.
	But it's been worked on for upwards of a year.
	Tens of millions of dollars have been put into it.
	I tell you, there's a reason why you don't see a lot of these social media companies is because it is expensive and it is hard to do.
	Jason, is there going to be a Hunter Biden laptop account on Getter?
	That's actually fun.
	You know what?
	I don't know.
	I imagine... I think it's a good idea.
	I will admit to maybe setting aside Where's Hunter as a handle.
	So if you ever see a Where's Hunter, you know, maybe that's something to do with that one.
	Okay, and I know the audience would not allow me not to ask this question.
	Obviously, you were the chief spokesman for President Trump in 2016.
	You were a key, key part of the 2020 campaign in which President Trump got more votes, even by the count that has already been certified than any other sitting president in history.
	And if anybody believes that Joe Biden got 80 million votes, you know, I've got a couple of bridges here in Manhattan and Brooklyn to sell you.
	And then you were his the president Trump's chief spokesman after January 20th.
	Where is the president in terms of getter?
	Have you had these discussions with him?
	Is he considering joining the platform?
	So he's impressed by the technology.
	I went and sat down with him, showed him a phone with everything all loaded up so he could play around with it and check it out.
	He's very impressed by the technology.
	I know he has a number of options and a number of proposals in front of him as far as joining with the social media platform.
	I haven't worked for him as long as I did.
	I know enough to not push him and just Just let him do it on his timetable.
	But I know that he sees the 1 million users that have already signed up, a lot of his friends, a lot of his supporters.
	We hope to get them.
	What is your goal for this platform for the next month, six months, and year?
	And I hope to hold you over to the next segment as well.
	But what is your goal?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So this, we ultimately want to continue to grow on the, want to continue to grow users.
	Want to make sure that we continue to evolve and grow up as a platform.
	Give people really where they feel, you know what, this is the place that's fun.
	Initially, we can always drive people or a friend might tell you to go check out a platform, but if you're not making it fun, if you're not making it engaging, the people won't come back.
	That's the main thing.
	We'll pick it up in the next segment.
	Right back with Jason Miller.
	God bless.
	God bless.
	The End
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	Hello America, this is Boris Epstein guest hosting today for the one and only Sebastian Gorka on America First.
	We're having a great packed show today.
	Be back with Jason Miller in just a second.
	We have great guests, Doug Mastriano, Doug Wardlow, we've got Louise Burke, we've got Kate Hartson.
	A great show today all across the board.
	We'll be taking calls in the next segment.
	Call in at 833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752, 833-334-6752.
	We are on Rumble, rumble.com slash Seb Gorka.
	And I'm on with Jason Miller right now.
	Jason, the chief spokesman for the 2016 campaign for President Trump, senior advisor in 2020.
	And right now, as of June of 2021, the CEO of Getter.
	Jason, as we were discussing at the end of the previous segment, as you see Getter growing, you are over the 1 million mark in just over three days of subscribers, which is amazing.
	Never happened before in social media history.
	The Getter app is reaching number one on downloads across social media.
	Where do you see Getter in the next one, six, one month, six months, year?
	Where do you see it going?
	Well, if you told me that we would have already surpassed a million users within the first week, I would have said, no way.
	I think it would be great if we were able to get to 2 million overall users.
	I think by the end of the month, I think by the end of the year, I'd be very happy to be at 10 million.
	So we have some pretty strong plans as far as advertising and number of different outreach efforts in other countries in addition to the U.S.
	We really haven't even started our big marketing efforts.
	I mean, one of the things we wanted to get out with a platform very soon just because there's really that need.
	There's so much that's demanded.
	And so at a certain point, we said, you know what, we can't make perfect the enemy of good.
	We know we're going to update and have some additional features, the online tipping, the live streaming, the political contributions, things like that.
	And so we decided we have some cool things like that that we're going to start rolling out, other languages, other countries that we want to make a big push into.
	That's really where this is going to go.
	I mean, this is taking off like a rocket.
	We want to continue to steady growth here in the U.S., but I'd like to be in that 10 million range by the end of the year.
	Well, Jack Dorsey's having a bad week, right, from the absolute gangbusters launch of Getter to today's lawsuit being filed by President Trump as the lead plaintiff in a class action against Twitter, Facebook, and Google and their CEOs.
	A bad week for Jack Dorsey, for Zuckerberg, for Google.
	Jason, what do you think of the lawsuit?
	Very, very big news this morning.
	A great press conference by President Trump, Brooke Rollins.
	Jason, your takeaways.
	Huge news.
	I'm glad that President Trump is fighting back here.
	I think a lot of folks don't realize this, but for all the talk of freedom of speech that the liberals will go and put out there, it really is freedom of speech as long as they agree with you.
	If they don't agree with you, then they just go ahead and undercut you or de-platform you or shadowban you or silence you or something like that.
	But where I really have a problem in particular is the fact that they went, as President Trump said, if they'll do it to me, a President of the United States, They'll do it to you.
	They won't hesitate for a second.
	And I don't think that you can come up with a permanent lifetime ban on somebody's First Amendment right.
	That really seems to be unconstitutional to me.
	And again, if there were, say, certain things that were illegal activity that were being done, for example, the same things if you walked into a restaurant and threatened somebody with physical violence, obviously there'd be legal ramifications.
	If you do that in social media, there can be ramifications as well.
	But there's a difference between someone committing speech of that nature versus your political opinion.
	And we want to make sure that political opinion is never censored, is never deplatformed, never canceled.
	And what about the fact that the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, is allowed to be on social media?
	You've got Iran, the terror regime in Iran on social media.
	You've got actual terrorists, actual murderers on social media.
	But somehow President Trump was just a step too far for Twitter, Facebook and YouTube, Google.
	That is one of their biggest issues legally, I believe, and that they have been so partial and so inconsistent in how they deal with the actual bad actors like the ones I listed from Iran, China, so on and so forth.
	And an American president, the 45th and hopefully 47th president in President Trump's.
	So I think this lawsuit has a ton of merit and it's got a ton of punch against these social media companies.
	Do you agree, Jason?
	I agree big time, and I hope that the courts, who have really started to push back on big media and big tech and some of these recent decisions, I hope they take a long look at this.
	I think what they've done, quite frankly, to conservatives and President Trump, has been shameful.
	And, you know, liberals should remember there wasn't that long ago that free speech mattered to you.
	And you know what?
	It's going to come back around and matter to you again.
	You've got to be careful where that pendulum is swinging.
	Jason, we've got less than 30 seconds.
	What do you see happening in 2024?
	Who's going to be the Republican nominee?
	Hopefully President Trump.
	That's what I'm banking on.
	If not President Trump, I think it's a big open field where you should probably see Ron DeSantis, Vice President Pence, maybe even Don Jr.
	throw their hat into the ring.
	But I hope we get President Trump back again.
	We're on the same page.
	AMAGA champion Jason Miller, CEO of Getter.
	Everyone go get Getter.
	God bless.
	Have a great day.
	Thanks, Jason.
	Thank you.
	The End
	On the side of the U.S. Constitutional Constitution, America first!
	And I'm all about America First.
	This is Boris Epstein guest hosting for the one and only Sebastian Gorka today.
	We are having a blast.
	A ton of news out there from Pennsylvania, where State Senator Doug Mastriano, who we will have on in this hour, a huge newsbreaker today.
	State Senator Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania is sending letters requesting Any and every piece of information pertaining to the 2020 election from three counties, Philadelphia, York, and Tiago counties in Pennsylvania, we will have Doug Mastriano on in this show today.
	This is the start of the freight train of audits coming to Pennsylvania.
	He, Doug Mastriano, is giving the counties until July 31st to respond and turn over all information, and if they do not, there are going to be subpoenas coming.
	This is vital.
	This is huge.
	Phone numbers here, 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	We're on RumbleRumble.com slash SubGorka, and we're going to go to the phone lines right now.
	We've got Michael in Los Angeles.
	Michael, what's up, my man?
	Hey, how you doing?
	I'm doing well.
	Very, very good.
	I'm glad you're on today.
	I look forward to hearing you on Bannon because you're always very positive.
	I really appreciate that.
	God bless you.
	Thanks.
	Okay.
	Listen, I've been a Trump.
	I've been a Trumpster since the eighties when he was on David Letterman.
	And, uh, I really informed, but what I don't like is I've done thousands of emails and actually some of them I felt were pretty good.
	No one ever answers the American people.
	It's like, I understand that Trump is for the, for America and the people in the first amendment.
	But we never get to say a word.
	Now, I know there's a lot of people who just babble on about, you know, what he eats for dinner, but there are people out there that want answers, and they don't really get the answers.
	Well, here you are.
	You're live on the radio now, so we're listening, my man.
	There's my question.
	Okay, you just started Getter.
	I've been on since day one.
	No one's ever answered me.
	Twitter, thousands.
	Rumble, thousands.
	Nothing.
	Nobody's even said... You know, that's a good point.
	Or maybe you should get on Trump's email, or not email, voicemail, and say that's a good idea.
	And I'm sure that there's smarter people than me.
	But we never get a chance to say a word and we're out there.
	We're meeting the people that have got guns.
	We're meeting the people that are getting slashed on the head.
	People let out of jail.
	Can't walk the streets.
	You know, it's very nice.
	They're selling pillows and stuff.
	Well, so Michael, you know, if the question is why are you not getting responses on getter, you know, I'm we had Jason Miller on the CEO of getter.
	It's a new platform.
	Obviously only been around for what three days as of now, they launched on July 4th.
	So I'm sure there's more technology coming to it in terms of replying and having more, you know, having more interaction.
	I would say that right now in terms of a new technology, Getter is very clean.
	You can say a lot.
	777 characters, I believe.
	They're going to have ability for longer videos as well.
	So it's a very interactive platform.
	Well done.
	Obviously, a ton of money put into it.
	So it's an exciting new platform.
	And again, a big part of the excitement is that you can say, within reason, obviously, right?
	We all wanna color within the lines.
	Nobody's gonna be yelling bomb in an airplane, right?
	But as conservatives, we are gonna be allowed to say what we want and not be scared and not be worried about being deplatformed, taken down from Twitter, taken down from Facebook, taken down from YouTube.
	It is ludicrous that in this country, we were not allowed to talk about the origins of the coronavirus, the Wuhan virus, the China virus, We're not allowed to talk about that.
	We're not allowed to talk about the big steal, the fact that there was rampant, rampant election fraud throughout the 2020 election.
	We're not allowed to talk about that.
	And of course, we're not allowed to talk about what I think is going to be a major A major account on Getter, Hunter Biden's laptop.
	So that is why there's such excitement for Getter.
	That's why you have the one million subscribers, over one million now just in the first couple of days.
	It is a testament to how hungry the American people are.
	And I actually think it's not just conservatives.
	I think it's right, left, and center.
	People who want to be able to say what they think, to speak their heart, to speak their minds, and connect with one another.
	So, Mike, I hope you're, you know, I hope you're on Getter, and you continue to be on there, and I think you'll find the interaction grow over the next days, weeks, and months.
	How come you didn't let me talk for that whole session?
	I couldn't say a word.
	I couldn't get in.
	What would you like to say?
	Go ahead.
	How come nothing was ever addressed?
	For example, when Mr. Bannon swore that January 20th, Trump would have his hand on the Bible.
	Well, thank you, Michael, for coming on, my friend.
	And here's what I would say.
	You know, I've been on Steve Bannon's show on War Room a lot.
	I do not remember any time Bannon swore that anything XYZ would happen.
	But here is what we have been pushing for, here's what we've been fighting for, to get to the bottom of what happened on 3 November 2020, what happened in the 2020 election.
	And I am not a machine guy.
	You know, I want to know what happened with the mini machines.
	We want to get the information.
	I believe there should be an investigation.
	But I know deep in my heart, and I know from facts that I have reviewed, facts I've studied, that the Democrat machine Democrats, big tech, big media perpetrated old school fraud on the American people in the 2020 election.
	How?
	Very simple.
	They increased exponentially the amount of ballots and they gutted the checks.
	Increase the ballots, gutted the checks.
	So right now you've got an audit going on in Arizona.
	That audit, from what I'm hearing, is yielding huge discrepancies between the amount of ballots that were certified in Maricopa County at the end of that election, 2020, and the amount of ballots turned over for the audit.
	We're gonna wait.
	This is gonna be double-checked, triple-checked, quadruple-checked.
	This is a process.
	We're gonna wait and get the number that comes out of this audit.
	But if the discrepancies I'm hearing are true, that is a nuclear earthquake.
	A nuclear earthquake.
	If tens of thousands of ballots are missing from what was certified, then everybody's got a lot of spending to do.
	Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, Arizona Secretary of State T.D.
	Hobbs, who said, oh, everything was perfect, everything was fine.
	Perkins Coie, Mark Elias, so on and so forth.
	And that's just Arizona.
	Arizona's not even the worst mess.
	The worst mess is Pennsylvania, where we have Doug Mastriano coming on shortly here later in the show to talk about his action to get to the bottom of November 3rd in Pennsylvania.
	We know Philadelphia County was a disaster.
	We know Allegheny County was a disaster where Pittsburgh is.
	Wisconsin, we know there are over 200,000 unlawful ballots Which are just in two counties, just in Milwaukee and Dane, where Madison, Wisconsin is, in an election that is only separated by 20,000 votes between Joe Biden and President Trump.
	So the freight train of audits is going full steam across the country.
	We're talking about it.
	We'll be back shortly on this wonderful show, America First.
	It's an honor to be here today.
	Be right back.
	God bless. God bless.
	God bless.
	Thank you.
	This is America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	I am Boris Epstein driving the freight train that is the show and the freight train of audits that's going across the country from Arizona to Pennsylvania.
	Huge news on that today.
	In the next hour we have the one and only State Senator Doug Mastriano from Pennsylvania who is the one that issued letters to get any and all information on the election from Philadelphia County, York County, and Tioga County.
	Doug Mastriano coming up.
	Then we have Doug Wardlow running for Attorney General against Keith Ellison, the hateful leftist extremist anti-Semite Keith Ellison.
	Doug Wardlow running for AG in Minnesota against him.
	We've got Kate Hartz and Louise Burke coming up in the next hour talking about All Seasons Press and fighting against censorship of conservatives, censorship of conservative media.
	And then tomorrow we have a huge show Leading off, for an hour, Stephen K. Bannon from 3 to 4 Eastern.
	We're going to talk about audits.
	We're going to talk about 3 November 2020.
	We're going to talk about the Wuhan virus origins of the Wuhan virus.
	We'll talk about 22 and we're going to talk about 2024.
	That is tomorrow.
	We've got Stephen K. Bannon on America First with Sebastian Gorka that I'll be hosting tomorrow.
	Eric, let's go to the phone lines.
	What do we have?
	We've got Leonard on one.
	Leonard, what's up?
	Boris, you are breakfast with Boris.
	It's great to have brunch with Boris over here too.
	I really enjoy when you're a guest on Seb's show because the two of you have got so much in common.
	I know you're great friends.
	It's so good to hear you laughing and stuff.
	About the class action, I'm an attorney also.
	I think it's such a brilliant move by our great president, Donald John Trump, to really financially, I hope media matters is paying attention, financially break the backs of these big techies.
	Also, the people that are being hurt throughout the country, if they have any suspicion that this is happening to them, they might as well join in on the class action, because then they could get paid for being patriotic.
	Leonard, you couldn't have said it any better.
	You're in New Jersey.
	Where in Jersey are you, my friend?
	I'm in a small, well-run town, Nutley, New Jersey, and I gotta say... I know Nutley well.
	The home of the Sopranos, right?
	Well, there you go.
	I want to say, too, about the teachers versus the teachers' union.
	I know a couple of the guest hosts that have had to move their children to religious schools, and all of these people are being aggrieved, and they have grievances for that extra money and for the propaganda.
	So another class action would be great to go against these people.
	They're communist unions.
	Some of the stuff I've heard lately has just been outrageous.
	Very well said, my friend.
	Very well said.
	Thank you for calling in a fellow New Jerseyan.
	I grew up in Princeton, New Jersey, a state that doesn't get enough credit, but a state that is terribly run by the leftist Democratic extreme Governor Murphy.
	We need a real governor back there.
	We need a Republican.
	So, God bless.
	We'll be back in the next hour.
	We'll be back in the next hour.
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	This is America First with me, Sebastian Gorka.
	I'm very excited to introduce our guest host for today, Boris Epstein.
	Thank you so much.
	My good friend, Sebastian Gorka, it is such an honor to be the guest host of America First, a true home for MAGA patriots, MAGA champions, and where the MAGA voice, the voice of President Donald J. Trump and his supporters is heard far and wide and where there is no room, no room for snowflakes, woke extremists, weak liberals, speaking of weak liberals,
	President, also known as the artist, formerly known as Joe Biden, in Chicago today to meet with Mayer, if we can recall, that Mayer Lightfoot of Chicago.
	Chicago, the crime spree continues.
	Absolutely heartbreaking stories.
	One of them, Max Lewis, 20 years old, University of Chicago student, killed by a stray bullet while he was on a train, a CTA train, the metro in Chicago.
	Killed by a stray bullet.
	While this young boy was just minding his own business.
	That is the death valley that Chicago has become.
	The death trap that Chicago has become.
	Meanwhile, Mayor Lightfoot is refusing to take questions from, what is it?
	Oh, non-black or brown journalists.
	She's a racist.
	Mayor Lightfoot's a racist.
	She's saying that racism is the biggest threat to Chicago, not the murders, not deaths of beautiful young people like Max Lewis.
	Max Lewis, who is a brother in the AAPI fraternity, a fraternity I'm a brother of, may his memory be a blessing.
	Absolutely heartbreaking and disgusting.
	Disgusting, what is going on in Chicago.
	And I hope, in the memory of Max, in the memory of all those senselessly murdered, butchered on the streets of Chicago, the Mayor Lightfoot does the right thing for once.
	Resigns and lets someone with a semblance of control, semblance of power, semblance of strength, run the city of Chicago and get it back to being America.
	This is not America, when beautiful young people are killed by stray bullets.
	A University of Maryland student was stabbed to death just a few days ago in Chicago.
	Tens of deaths, hundreds of shootings.
	Every weekend, July 4th, a murder spree in Chicago.
	Mayor Lightfoot, you are an embarrassment!
	And Joe Biden, the people controlling Joe Biden, again, for once, do the right thing.
	Push Lightfoot out.
	If you have to, take control in Chicago.
	Send in the National Guard, if you have to.
	Because that place is a murder spree every single weekend.
	We cannot accept it.
	We cannot accept it.
	Idiots like Matthew Dowd are talking about how, oh, January 6th is worse than 9-11.
	First of all, that is disparaging, disgusting, pathetic.
	But why are they so focused on January 6th?
	Why are they not focused on what's going on in Democrat cities, specifically in the city of Chicago?
	Why are they not focused on Max Lewis and on others who die senselessly day in, day out, week in, week out?
	You know why?
	Because it doesn't fit their leftist narrative.
	That's all these cynical people care about.
	That is all these people care about.
	That's all they want to talk about.
	They don't want to talk about making America safe.
	They don't want to talk about where we need to be as a country.
	They don't want to talk about Max Lewis.
	They don't want to talk about Captain David Dorn, the St.
	Louis police captain brutally murdered last year.
	Brutally murdered last year during the riots.
	What they want to talk about is any instance that fits their narrative.
	They want to put down other Americans.
	They don't want to make this country safe.
	They don't want to make it better.
	Let's play Cut 5 real quick.
	What would happen if after 9-11 we had done nothing?
	We had done nothing.
	Think about that.
	We had done nothing after 9-11.
	And to me, though there was less loss of life on January 6th, January 6th was worse than 9-11 because it's continued to rip our country apart and give permission for people to pursue autocratic means.
	And so I think we're in a much worse place than we've been.
	And as I've said, I think to you before, I think we're in the most perilous point in time since 1861 in the advent of the Civil War.
	Two words.
	One.
	Idiot.
	Two.
	Pathetic.
	And I'm trying to be nice.
	To say that January 6th was worse than 9-11 is an absolute degradation of this country's history.
	And Dowd used to be a Republican.
	This tells you how terrible the Republican establishment really is.
	The Uniparty.
	That's the Democrat and the Republican establishment really is.
	Dowd used to be a Republican.
	He was part of that Republican establishment.
	It tells you just how terrible they are and tells you how much of a danger the establishment is because you can never trust them.
	They say they're a Republican.
	Even Democrats shouldn't trust their own establishment.
	One day they're a Democrat.
	The next day they're a Republican.
	And again, to talk about January 6th but not talk about what's happening in Chicago, it is so cynical.
	It is so pathetic.
	And we have to keep calling it out.
	Speaking of calling things out, we've got Sean on the phone line.
	Sean wants to talk about the Durham report.
	Whatever happened to that?
	Sean, what's up?
	I think John Durham was sucked up by a nebula or something like that.
	We haven't heard anything.
	I was just wondering what happened, and I just wanted to say mazel tov on filling in for Mr. Gorka.
	I appreciate that.
	I appreciate the kind words, my friend.
	And in terms of Durham, it's like that invite from a wedding, from maybe a friend that's close but not that close, or a relative who doesn't like you so much.
	That's happened to me plenty.
	Plenty of my wife's relatives aren't big fans of mine, if you're listening.
	God bless all of you.
	Wish all of you the best.
	All of you the best.
	It's like that invite from those relatives that, you know, you keep waiting for but never comes.
	That's like the Durham Report.
	You check in the mailbox.
	Maybe you look at the post office.
	You give them a call.
	Hey, do you have any mail that didn't come in?
	Nah, no mail.
	That's like the Durham Report.
	We keep on waiting.
	So, Sean, are you waiting?
	I hope you're not holding your breath.
	I just remember that there was a clause in the Constitution, equal justice under the law, right?
	The Equal Protection Clause.
	So it just seems like justice only applies to people who have an R in front of their name.
	Injustice only applies to people who have an R in their name.
	Look how they treat America's mayor, the one and only Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
	Look how they treated him.
	Barging into his house at six in the morning, guns blazing, taking all his equipment, all electronic equipment, except, of course, of course, they didn't take the hard drive from Hunter Biden's laptop.
	Mayor Giuliani goes, here's the laptop, take the laptop.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	We don't want the laptop.
	Injustice applies to Republicans and conservatives in this country.
	Democrats?
	Remember Hillary Clinton?
	Oh, we're going to have a discussion with you.
	Cheryl Mills, who is your Chief of Staff, who's also under investigation, she can sit in.
	Don't worry about everything.
	It's going to be fine.
	But Mayor Giuliani, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, American hero General Mike Flynn, they get railroaded, destroyed, anything possible done to them, in the name of what?
	In the name of America?
	No.
	In the name of woke liberalism.
	So I hope that Durham's still working on that report, but you know what?
	I'm glad I haven't been holding my breath.
	Sean, hope you haven't been holding yours.
	Because otherwise, I think we'd both be out of breath a long time ago.
	So it's hope that comes about, because right now, I'm pretty cynical about it.
	I'm cynical about that.
	I'm cynical about law enforcement and the intelligence community in this country.
	Law enforcement at the highest levels took a big hit under Comey.
	We have to admit it.
	I am the biggest supporter of the men and women in blue.
	I love our men and women of the police.
	And I love all our members of law enforcement, be it the border, be it the rank and file of the FBI.
	But Jim Comey was a disaster.
	And even if, you know, I actually took time and watched one hour of that Comey Rules, I think it's HBO Showtime, And even in a show where they think they're portraying him well, what they're doing is showing him to be a total leftist.
	Somebody who is just all about himself and not about what's right for this country.
	And that's what Democrats are.
	That's what Democrats are.
	They're cynical.
	They're woke.
	And be that at the highest levels of the intelligence community, let's not forget John Brennan, head of the CIA under Obama, and everything he did to sabotage, to sabotage then-president-elect President Trump.
	Let's not forget Jim Comey.
	Let's not forget the way Hillary Clinton, the crooked Hillary was treated.
	And again, look at the differences.
	But the most heartbreaking right now, I'd say, is what's happening in Chicago.
	And for those of us who have lived in cities in Washington, in New York, in Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, LA, what's happening in Chicago is coming to you.
	Mayor Lightfoot is just another representation of Bill de Blasio, Probably tied with her for one of the worst politicians in American history.
	Same thing all across the country.
	So you know what the answer is?
	Get them out.
	Elect Republicans.
	Elect conservatives.
	Do the right thing.
	Stand strong.
	Do not back down.
	Because if you do back down, then they win.
	So in the memory of Max Lewis, in the memory of those brutally murdered in Chicago and all across this country, we've got to stand strong, honor our men and women in law enforcement, and get the Democrats out.
	We'll be right back.
	God bless.
	The End
	Constitution, America first!
	All right, here we are in the second hour of America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	I am Boris Epstein, your guest host for today.
	We have a packed, a packed show today.
	We've already had Jason Miller call in.
	We've talked about key items.
	We had great call-ins.
	And right now, we have the co-founders of All Seasons Press, Kate Hartson and Louise Burke on the line.
	Kate Hartson is the editor-in-chief.
	Louise Burke is the publisher.
	All Seasons Press is fighting back against censorship.
	of conservative voices.
	They've got some great books coming up they're going to talk to us about later in the hour.
	We've got Doug Mastriana, State Senator Doug Mastriana from Pennsylvania, talking about the freight train of audits coming to Pennsylvania.
	Then we've got Doug Wardlaw from Minnesota.
	And then we've got Patrick O'Donnell, the war historian, in the third hour.
	We'll take some calls in the third hour as well.
	We're at 833-33-GORKA, 833-334-6752.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-334-6752.
	And then tomorrow from 3 to 4 for an hour, we've got the one and only Stephen K. Bannon.
	I'll be guest hosting again tomorrow and interviewing Stephen K. Bannon for an hour, 3 to 4.
	Make sure to tune in.
	And now with Kate Hartson and Louise Burke of All Seasons Press, thank you so much for joining, Kate and Louise.
	Thank you so much for having us.
	Thank you, Boris.
	Great to be here.
	Of course.
	It's my pleasure.
	It's my pleasure.
	You're co-founders.
	You are absolute legends in conservative publishing.
	And I'd love to talk about what drove you, what drove you, and Kate would love to start with you, what drove you to founding, starting All Seasons Press.
	I'll start just to say that I was retired for almost four years and really was enjoying myself but I was really compelled to come back because of the shutting down of opposing thoughts and voices and I really just needed to help and fight back because what's happening is really un-American.
	It's totally against the First Amendment and it's horrifying.
	Yeah.
	And Louise and I are both, Paul, see the escalation of the censorship coming now from the current administration, the media, big tech.
	We're so happy to hear President Trump today with his lawsuit.
	It's so great to see the president get up to the microphone and stand up for America and free speech.
	And in our way at All Seasons Press, we're doing the same thing.
	You know, we don't want people to be silenced.
	We've been in the business for years of publishing different voices, different viewpoints, great thinkers, great writers, great politicians and pundits, and we are going to continue to do that at all seasons.
	And you both come from major, major, major publishing houses.
	Louise, you're from Simon & Schuster.
	Kate, you're from Hachette.
	And Louise, as you said, you're retired between Simon & Schuster now.
	Do you think that there is a future for conservative authors in the imprints that are out there now, the more traditional, larger imprints?
	Or is this exactly why you started All Seasons?
	The mainstream publishers certainly are challenging conservative voices.
	If they're not cancelling them, they are rejecting books that they feel do not support their narrative.
	So, absolutely, in the mainstream publishing world, conservative authors are really in a bad position.
	But conservative publishers, and there are others, but we felt it was a place in the marketplace for us because we are not connected to big media, so we can't be cancelled.
	We are people who are going to stand behind our authors.
	And Kate can answer that.
	And let's talk about some of those authors.
	You already have several books on the line that come out in the next several months.
	Tell us about some of the leaders.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we're very excited by our list and we're launching with Peter Navarro from the Trump administration, who is special assistant to the president for trade and was very involved in all of the efforts to fight against the COVID pandemic.
	Yes, and we have Peter and then we have the Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, the two top Trump administration officials.
	And according to the Times recently, there's a quote in there that mainstream publishing believes it's, quote, morally unacceptable to publish members of the Trump administration.
	We find this to be the most outrageous statement.
	We find the statement morally unacceptable.
	So we've got those great authors, and then we also have a wonderful book by James Golden, who is both nerdly and a sidekick to Rush Limbaugh, and he's writing a beautiful tribute to Rush called Rush on the Radio.
	All three books, I'm sure, are going to be fascinating.
	Peter Navarro, a very good friend of mine, somebody who's been, I'd say, a compatriot of mine in fighting the battle to get to the bottom of 3 November 2020.
	Somebody who's been right there in the foxhole who did those in-depth reports, in-depth reports on the election, went through the states, the states through which the freight train of audits is going now, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia.
	So it's going to be vital, of course.
	Also, Peter, so deeply involved in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic, the Wuhan virus, the China virus, whatever people want to call it.
	But let's be honest, where it came from, I think we all know that it came from China and most likely from the Wuhan Virology Lab.
	So a great early lineup there and a tribute to Rush will be so important to get out there.
	Where do you see this imprint going?
	And I asked Jason Miller, he was on with us in the first hour.
	I asked him the same thing.
	He's the CEO of Getter, the exciting new social media.
	Where do you see All Seasons Press in the next six months, next year and beyond?
	Where do you see it growing?
	Well, our plans are to grow to more than double what we're doing now.
	The thing we really want to do, though, is get quality books from great thinkers and focus on them individually.
	So I think we're talking about at least 12 or more books next year.
	We managed to get three very good books in the fall, and it was quite a rush to do so, but we're thrilled with them, so now we have to go forward and grow more.
	That's very exciting.
	Very exciting.
	Do you have everything lined up in terms of fighting the censorship?
	People are worried even that the printing process is going to be disrupted by Bezos, Amazon, and others.
	Are you able to get around the roadblocks that the woke extreme cancel left may throw up against you and your authors?
	Well, we hope we are.
	We're planning to.
	We certainly have our printers lined up.
	You know, there's There's a lot of people across the country who are not woke extremists, far left, and when you work with printers in middle America and across the country, you find that this kind of thinking is really In some ways limited to the left coast and the right coast and the west coast.
	The left coast and the west coast.
	We're doing our own distribution.
	We are working with all of the major booksellers and we intend to have our books carried in all major outlets.
	But we also are protecting ourselves and protecting our authors by doing our own distribution and warehousing.
	And do you see this, and we've got about a minute left, do you see that this lawsuit by President Trump today as a step toward loosening that group of censorship, fighting against that censorship, which is a battle you are conducting yourselves with your imprint?
	Well, we hear it from parents who are upset about critical race theory being forced on their children.
	We're hearing, you know, all over the country, we're hearing people trying to fight back.
	The trick is to gather together, to have people of like mind not accept what we're being told, and that's the first step.
	And Kate, you can, you know, elaborate.
	I love that.
	Actually, can I ask you to stay into the next segment?
	I'd love to talk more with you about that, CRT and other issues.
	Can you stay?
	Yes, of course.
	Thank you.
	Perfect.
	Let's do it.
	Thank you.
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	I am your guest host, Boris Epstein.
	It is 4.33, 4.34 on Wednesday, July 7th.
	And here we are.
	We've got another hour and a half of a packed show.
	We're going to continue with Kate Hartson and Louise Burke of All Seasons Press here in a second.
	Then we've got State Senator Doug Mastriano coming up from Pennsylvania.
	On the freight train of audits coming to PA, then Doug Wardlow running for Minnesota Attorney General against the hateful extremist Keith Ellison, and then Patrick O'Donnell talking history.
	And then tomorrow, from 3 to 4, we've got Stephen K. Bannon here on America First with Sebastian Gorka, with me guest hosting and interviewing Steve.
	We're going to have a robust discussion from 3 to 4 tomorrow.
	We are on Rumble.
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	We've got the phone lines open.
	We'll be taking some calls in the third hour.
	833-334-6752.
	833-33-GORKA.
	Let's get back to Kate Hartz and Louise Burke, co-founders of All Seasons Press.
	Louise, you said something in the last segment that really struck me as vital.
	That our children, I've got a beautiful little boy who's five, he'll be going into kindergarten and then obviously going on to school.
	Our children are being taught this hateful critical race theory nonsense.
	They're not being taught real history.
	They're not being taught real truth.
	They're being indoctrinated by the woke extreme left and All Seasons Press as part of fighting against that.
	Talk to us about that some more, please.
	So I worked with Rush Limbaugh, it was my great pleasure to work with him, and he was compelled to write a series of books titled Rush Revere, based on his character of course, who would go back in time and tell the story of history, American history.
	Truthfully, and the way it should be told to a younger audience.
	And those books are still very successful.
	So, there are people like that who feel very strongly that their children should be getting a better education, but certainly the correct information on American history.
	You know, this is not a nation of racists.
	We don't believe we're racists.
	So, you know, this is not what we are about.
	And I think that the more that people fight back against things like critical race theory, the more parents get involved, You're starting to see it over and over again and Dan Bongino coined the phrase parallel economy and that's what we're trying to do here.
	We're saying you cancel us, we cancel you.
	We cannot allow them to take over the way we think and certainly not freedom of speech or freedom of the press.
	Kate, you've got some robust, robust authors already lined up.
	Peter Navarro, of course, Mark Meadows, the Chief of Staff at the White House, somebody I know well and is a great American.
	You've got Bo Snurdley.
	Let me ask you the question.
	I asked this question of Jason Miller, the CEO of Getter earlier in the show, so I have to ask it of you.
	Do you think that President Trump may do a book with All Seasons Press?
	Well, we certainly think that President Trump should do a book.
	We're waiting for President Trump to write a book.
	I mean, we would be honored if President Trump would eventually do a book with us at All Seasons Press because we certainly believe in his message and we're great supporters of him and all that he did for this country.
	And he lived through four years and more of a false narrative being spread to the American people about him
	You know, first there was a Russian agent and then all of the lies about racism and it became, you know, the mantra of the left that really began this horrible season we're in now in America where people are just being told that if you don't follow a certain, you know, this certain narrative,
	You're a racist, and as Louise was saying, what they're teaching the kids, it's just appalling.
	And the President did so much for the country, you know, so much for everyone in the country.
	And we know what his record is for putting people back to work, putting money back in people's pockets, in their paychecks, in their 401Ks.
	Yes, President Trump, we'll publish you if you'll have us.
	I love that.
	I love that narrative.
	I love how humble it is, how honest it is, how American it is.
	In America, presidents don't get canceled.
	In real America, presidents get published.
	Presidents get big, big, you know, they've got big platforms.
	They have the ability to go out there and connect with Americans, to be authentic, and the 45th and hopefully 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, is the most authentic of them all, and that's why we need him to To be out there, to be connecting, and to do books, including hopefully with All Seasons Press.
	Kate Hartson, Editor-in-Chief of All Seasons Press.
	Louise Burke, Publisher of All Seasons Press.
	Thank you both so much for being on the show, and more importantly for doing the strong work to push back against censorship.
	God bless both of you.
	Stay strong.
	Keep fighting hard.
	Thanks so much.
	Thank you.
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	This is America First.
	Let's get back to the show with Boris Epstein.
	I am the Baron.
	I'm doing the baronial wave, and I am guest hosting America First today.
	America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	Sebastian, a true American patriot, MAGA champion, and it is my honor to be guest hosting today.
	We are on Rumble at Rumble.com slash SebGorka, and right now, With me is Pennsylvania State Senator, American hero, Colonel Doug Mastriano.
	Senator, thank you for joining us.
	Thanks, Boris, for having us on.
	It's a historic day for Pennsylvania and the United States of America, for that matter.
	It sure is.
	So, I do have to say one thing, okay?
	I did not know this until they handed me your full bio going all the way back to where you were born.
	Did not know you were from New Brunswick.
	I grew up in Princeton.
	Did not know you were raised in Heightstown.
	Did you go, now here's a question, did you go to Heightstown High?
	I did.
	Did we play you in sports or what?
	I went to West Windsor Plains, bro.
	Okay?
	So for those of you who are not from Central Jersey, Hidestown is East Windsor.
	I went to West Windsor and we dominated.
	We dominated Hidestown in football year in, year out.
	In your dreams, baby.
	I remember one track and field event, we smashed you guys.
	On the home turf, even.
	I remember, so maybe a couple year difference here, that I will say this.
	In 2000, to any of my buddies, to any of my football classmates, any of my football teammates watching, you remember this?
	In 2000, they called the Windsor Cup.
	We played at Heightstown.
	West Windsor-Plainsboro versus Heightstown.
	Played on your home turf.
	We crushed Heightstown so bad.
	So bad.
	I was already, I was, I was starting varsity defensive tackle.
	I was already dancing around the track by the third quarter.
	Okay.
	It was an annihilation.
	And I think it was your guys' homecoming too.
	Well, you know what?
	In my defense, that was 20 years about after I left the school.
	So, you know.
	See, they could never get a star like you.
	They could never get a star like you.
	And in all seriousness, an American hero.
	I threw a shot putting discus.
	I wasn't on the football team, so anyway.
	Well, you know what?
	Once a Heidstowner, always a Heidstowner, right?
	So at least we can poke a little fun at each other.
	I will never forget that Heidstown homecoming.
	And last quick little thing for fun for our listeners.
	I think the Heidstown coach before that game, because I was a little boy, let's put it this way.
	They said, oh yeah, I heard our center's got a big kid going against them, being me, but he's handled bigger.
	I think I knocked out the top two centers of Heightstown in that game.
	And I was going up against a poor kid who was like, you know, 5'2", 120 pounds.
	I just took it easy on him in the fourth quarter.
	So it was a fun game.
	Won't forget it.
	And that's enough for that trip down memory lane.
	Here we are with Pennsylvania State Senator American Hero Doug Mastriano, retired colonel in the United States Army.
	Thank you so much for your service.
	I served four years at the NATO land headquarters in Heidelberg, Germany.
	Deployed to Iraq for Desert Storm in 1991.
	Deployed to Iraq for Desert Storm in 1991.
	That's all I ever wanted to do.
	Director of NATO's Joint Intelligence Center in Afghanistan, retired from the Army in 2017 at the rank of colonel, and has been a member of the Pennsylvania State Senate from the 33rd District since 2019.
	True American patriot.
	Thank you so much for your service, sir.
	Doug Mastriano.
	Thank you.
	That's all I ever wanted to do.
	And as I was retiring from the Army, you know, it's a culture shock.
	That's all I ever wanted to do, and I did it for 30 years active duty.
	Most of my 20s, all my 30s, all my 40s, and part of my 50s.
	It's tempting to ride off into the sunset, as so many colonels and generals do, with a sweet job and foreign travel kind of fading away.
	Honestly heartbroken that I was handing over the country and my state in worse condition than how I got it from my dad and his generation.
	My dad was a Navy man.
	I stepped up and I ran for office.
	Not something I ever wanted to do.
	I can't say it hasn't always been an enjoyable experience to have the opposition and the media spread lies about you and perpetuate disinformation, but so much is at stake.
	Ever since November 3rd, I've heard from tens of thousands, probably about a quarter million people, about the election.
	Do something.
	We need an audit.
	We need an investigation.
	I did the Gettysburg hearing back in November, but still a lot of things haven't been addressed.
	The House and Senate ran hearings to get to the bottom of the election, and the governor vetoed last week our initiative to try to make corrections to the election.
	And so our last recourse, and the right thing to do, is to get to the bottom of it with forensic investigations.
	So yesterday I spoke with my committee in detail, announced to all the members of the committee, and then of course released it to the world this morning that Pennsylvania is beginning the process to bring a forensic investigation to our state.
	We're looking at three of 67 counties at the first round.
	More counties might come in later.
	Which counties?
	Philadelphia, so one Democrat county and two Republican counties.
	So, you know, this is unbiased.
	It's just to find out what happened and let the chips fall where they may.
	You know, anyone... I've already, you know, read the statement from our Attorney General, who's a Democrat, and the Democrat Senate Minority Leader, and it's just that you would be opposed to an honest review or after-action review, as we call it in the Army, of what went right, what went wrong, and how can we make things better, that anyone be afraid of that.
	and put the trade that they might be afraid of something coming out that they don't want to come out so you-know-what democrat republican independent that this is an easy thing to get behind you want transparency in government you want a scientific approach to find out what happened They can get behind this audit.
	It's a forensic investigation.
	It's not Arizona-lite.
	It's Arizona plus more, and that's why it's a forensic investigation.
	I love that.
	It's going to deep dive on the ballots, the machines, software, whatever we can, you know, that I have power within the Senate and within our state constitution to take a look at.
	And that's what I want to talk to you about.
	I want to ask you to stay into the next segment.
	We still have about 90 seconds here, but we'll ask you to stay in the next segment as well.
	Give us the nuts and bolts.
	What was in your request today?
	What are the next steps?
	What are the deadlines?
	I know July 31st is when you want to get the information back from the three counties, Philadelphia, York, Tioga.
	What are the nuts and bolts?
	What's the cadence going forward?
	Tell our listeners.
	Yeah, so it's pretty easy.
	It's coming out of my committee.
	And my committee is a standing committee, Intergovernmental Operations.
	And the letter went out to the three counties asking for not only the ballots, but also any machines and any devices and any data and any drive and any backups.
	Use the tabulate, calculate, or control, or assist with the counting or running the election.
	This would include routers.
	They have three weeks plus a few days to respond.
	31st of July is the deadline.
	If they don't respond, then I have to hold a voting in-person meeting of my committee to authorize me to issue subpoenas.
	And that's when the legal process begins for those.
	I think the Republican counties will comply in the end.
	Obviously, we can expect a fight and a time in court, which is fine.
	And that's what happened in Arizona as well.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	That's the way the process is.
	We're a constitutional republic.
	Everything takes time, and I'm asking everyone to be patient.
	It's a marathon, and if you're going to jump out of the race, don't become part of the problem.
	Just get off the track while the rest of us keep on plunging ahead.
	Totally agree.
	Back in the next segment with State Senator Doug Mastriano.
	The Fright Training of Audits is coming to Pennsylvania.
	The Fright Training of Audits
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	I am Boris Epstein guest hosting and we are back with Pennsylvania State Senator American hero, Colonel Doug Mastriano.
	Senator, we are talking about the freight train of audits coming to Pennsylvania today.
	You issued letters from your committee, from your Intergovernmental Operations Committee, is that right?
	The standing committee in the Pennsylvania State Senate.
	You issued letters to three counties, including Philadelphia, for all information, all ballots, all papers to be turned over for a full examination.
	Tell us more.
	Tell us about the powers of the committee and what's going to happen if Philadelphia does not comply by the deadline of July 31st.
	Any county does not comply, we're going to have a voting meeting of my committee to issue subpoenas, and then it becomes a legal matter.
	If that's not enough to convince them, then obviously it'll be a court issue.
	But my view, once again, as I said before and I'll repeat it, is if you've got nothing to hide, open up the darn book.
	That's right.
	If there's nothing to see here, go ahead and prove that everything was good to go, that there was no fraud, as some of my colleagues on the other side actually said a week and a half ago before the Senate.
	What a ridiculous assertion.
	But you know what?
	Last year was unprecedented in Pennsylvania as well as around most of the nation.
	We had the COVID shutdown.
	Polling stations closed.
	We had changes in election law by our Supreme Court and Secretary of State.
	Last minute changes even right the day before the election.
	No excuse mail-in voting.
	And you can't tell me that there wasn't issues there.
	There are issues I've heard personally from thousands of people across the state and it's time we address those issues.
	We've got about 90 seconds left.
	What do you, I think as a lawyer, that similarly to Arizona, there's going to be a legal process.
	Philadelphia County is going to push back, but then you will get to review all this information.
	What do you expect to find in reviewing Philadelphia County?
	And I hope you get to see Allegheny County, which is Pittsburgh as well.
	What do you expect to find?
	Well, you know, I don't know.
	I'm just after the truth.
	This is a massive research project here on behalf of the people of Pennsylvania.
	I'm hearing things out of Arizona.
	We might find similar things.
	I just simply don't know.
	I don't have any preconceptions on this here.
	I'm going with an open mind, and I'm just calling on all the counties to cooperate and do their due diligence.
	We always want transparency in government.
	There's no greater transparency than opening the books here on the 2020 and the 2021 primary we just had.
	I want to look at both elections, compare and contrast, and do whatever I can to ensure that we have free and fair elections and that everyone has an equal share and an equal voice.
	Senator, what does this audience, what does the MAGA movement, what does the MAGA posse need to do to ensure that there is a full forensic audit, full forensic review of the election in Pennsylvania?
	What are the next steps?
	What do they need to do?
	Well, I'd ask people first to pray for us here, for wisdom and discernment and victory and all that in favor.
	In the meantime here, the process just needs to run, and so they have three weeks to voluntarily comply, and after that the subpoena comes out.
	Obviously, it's a vote of my committee.
	Thankfully, we have a decent majority on my Senate committee, and so we should win that vote for subpoena, but let your voice be heard.
	If you're in Pennsylvania, contact your state senator, whether Democrat or Republican, and respectfully tell them what you want to happen.
	Let your voice be heard.
	State Senator Doug Mastroianni, God bless you.
	Thank you so much.
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	- Is that him?
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	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	I hear your voice now, Chad.
	I'm going to go ahead and dial up Mr. Warlow.
	Oh, now it's again.
	Hey, Boris.
	Thank you.
	Can you hear me?
	That was my mistake.
	I accidentally putted up the wrong Skype input.
	When my brain doctor needs to operate on me, Eric, I'll send you the bill.
	My apologies.
	Okay, we have Mr. Wardlow on the line, and the mics are live on Rumble, gentlemen, so you guys are aware.
	Great.
	Very good.
	All right, can we get an audio check from you, Mr. Wardlow?
	I'm sorry?
	Can we get an audio check from you real quick?
	Just talk for a sec?
	Yeah, sure.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	All right, sounds great.
	Thank you.
	There we go.
	Audio sounds good, picture looks good.
	Yes, picture looks good.
	We are one minute out.
	Doug, we have a nice long segment.
	We got 11 minutes.
	Awesome.
	- Awesome, all righty. - Seb's gonna introduce you again, Boris.
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	I'm very excited to introduce our guest host for today, Boris Epstein.
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	It is great to be the guest host of America First with Sebastian Gorka.
	I am Boris Epstein and we are in our last hour Boy, time flies when you're having fun.
	Time flies when you're having a blast.
	We've got a jam-packed last hour for you.
	We've got Doug Wardlow coming up.
	He's running against the extreme leftist, hateful Keith Ellison for Minnesota Attorney General.
	Then we have Patrick O'Donnell talking some history with you soon.
	Everything is going gangbusters here on America First with Sebastian Gorka with me, Boris Epstein guest hosting.
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	We have with us now the Republican nominee for Attorney General of Minnesota, Republican candidate, and safely to say will be the nominee for Attorney General of Minnesota, Doug Wardlow.
	Doug Wardlow is born and raised in Minnesota, and he is also, just like yours truly, a double Hoya candidate.
	Georgetown undergrad, Georgetown law, and now running against the awful, terrible, no good Keith Ellison.
	Doug, thanks for being with us.
	Hi, Boris.
	It's wonderful to be on with you today.
	Well, Doug, listen, I've only got one bone to pick with you.
	I didn't quite get the magna cum laude from Georgetown University.
	I was just a lowly cum laude, so, you know, I'm embarrassed by that, but I am honored that you would take time to join me today to talk about everything that's going on, and great to talk to a fellow Double Hoya.
	Great to talk to a fellow Double Hoya as well, absolutely.
	I won't hold that against you, and yeah, it's great to be on.
	There's a lot going on here in Minnesota and, of course, across the country.
	Why are you running against Keith Ellison?
	You came close last time, but now you're doing it again.
	You're going all in.
	Why are you running against the leftist extremist Keith Ellison for Minnesota Attorney General?
	So many reasons.
	We did come very close last time, within about 3.5%, so we came so close to victory in a very difficult year for Republicans, 2018, up against strong headwinds, and actually got more Republican votes than any Republican candidate has ever received in a midterm election in the state of Minnesota for any office.
	So we've got a strong base of support, and we're launching from that base of support to win the office of Attorney General here in Minnesota and retire Keith Ellison From politics and that that's critical because Keith Ellison is a national leader of the radical left He's a political leader who wants to weaken our country He wants to weaken our state and our country and he has given rise to a culture of lawlessness in this state And that's where the number one reason I'm running we need to restore law and order in Minnesota, you know after the George Floyd Death last summer.
	We saw riots across Minneapolis and St.
	Paul and then spreading across the country from here.
	And Keith Ellison, he stood back and he did nothing.
	He watched as our cities burned.
	And he allowed that chaos to continue.
	He should have been prosecuting those responsible, investigating and prosecuting those who are fomenting violence, those who are behind the riots, people coming into the state, members of domestic terror groups like Antifa.
	He did none of that.
	He did none of that.
	He's been focused on a war against the police.
	And that's not surprising, because Keith Ellison is a person who has been anti-police for his entire career.
	You know, he's an accolade of Louis Farrakhan, the head of the terrible anti-Semitic nation of Islam, right?
	Disgusting.
	Disqualify him.
	Disqualify him.
	As a proud Jew, I will tell you.
	That there's very few things that scare me more in America than the emergence of Keith Ellison, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and other anti-Semites, and their election to the senior controlling offices, Minnesota Attorney General, members of the House, serving on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, such as Ilhan Omar is now doing while calling Israel an apartheid state, and Keith Ellison was sort of You know, he was sort of the advance of all this, right?
	He came along way before Ilhan Omar, before Rashida Tlaib, before Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
	Keith Ellison came on the scene.
	He was the forebearer of this rise of anti-Semitism on the left.
	I call it the anti-Semitic caucus, and it is nothing but scary.
	And the fact that this horrible human being, an acolyte of Louis Farrakhan, somebody who's lied about his relationship with Farrakhan, said, oh no, I don't know, Farrakhan.
	And now there's pictures of them hanging out within the last several years.
	Okay?
	Somebody who's lied about his relationship with the hateful anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan, who said that he's not an anti-Semite.
	He's anti-termite.
	He wants to exterminate me, my son, my family.
	And you know what?
	Let him try.
	Because Louis Farrakhan, Keith Ellison, and other hateful anti-Semites, they're going to be met with a fire and fury they could never even imagine.
	And Doug, God bless you for running against Ellison.
	Tell us this.
	What are the top three things that you will do differently from Keith Ellison when you're the Attorney General?
	Number one, we need to restore law and order.
	So we're actually going to rebuild the criminal law division of the office.
	We're going to go after violent criminals, violent crime in Minneapolis.
	And in St.
	Paul is skyrocketing.
	In the last month or so we've had three children shot in Minneapolis and tragically two of them have died.
	That is completely unacceptable and beyond unacceptable.
	So we need to staff up the criminal law division.
	We need to prosecute those folks that are violating the law and then put them behind bars.
	It's not good enough just to arrest folks and then release them.
	We need to actually prosecute them, put them behind bars.
	And so that's the number one thing.
	We need to support law enforcement as well.
	And that's critical.
	Secondly, we need to protect our constitutional rights, and that's critically important.
	We need to lift the burden of the administrative state off the people of Minnesota.
	And thirdly, election integrity.
	So vitally important.
	It's important that we get to the bottom of what happened on November 3rd.
	We need to make sure that the elective franchise is functioning properly so it can properly transmit sovereignty from the people down to our government officials.
	And so that we don't have destabilization of our entire government because this is a representative republic.
	If people don't trust that elections are working properly, then they won't trust that the laws are being passed by the right people and that undermines the legitimacy of the law itself and threatens the rule of law.
	So this is, there could be no bigger issue.
	So we're going to use the office of the attorney general as it was meant to be used to enforce the law.
	And that means investigating and prosecuting those who violate our election laws, investigating and prosecuting voter fraud.
	And we will send a strong message that if you commit voter fraud in Minnesota, you will go to jail.
	You heard earlier in the show we had State Senator Doug Mastriano from Pennsylvania.
	Now the audit, the fright train of audits, as I love to call it, is coming to Pennsylvania.
	It's already in Arizona.
	The audit is ongoing there.
	They're getting to the bottom of what happened.
	So let me ask this key question.
	Do you, Doug Bordlow, support full forensic audits of the 2020 election in the key battleground states of Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and if need be, in Minnesota?
	Absolutely.
	We absolutely need to do that because, like I said, we need to protect the functioning of the elective franchise.
	We need to make sure that people have confidence that election outcomes are accurate.
	So let's get to the bottom of what happened.
	Let's do these detailed forensic audits and find out whether there was fraud.
	And there are certainly massive indicia of fraud.
	And the results, the preliminary results kind of trickling out of Arizona show that.
	And once we see those results, I think there will be calls to audit a lot of other states, including right here in Minnesota.
	You know, Minnesota has something of a tradition of voter fraud.
	You know, the Norm Coleman-Al Franken race.
	Talk about that.
	You know, there were – it was very close the night of the election and down to several hundred votes in favor of Norm Coleman.
	And then the next day or sometime thereafter, they found some balance in the trunk of a car.
	And Democrats sent their lawyers in.
	And all of a sudden, Al Franken eked out a victory.
	So, there were definitely irregularities in that election, and that was back in 2008.
	And then, you know, Project Veritas had video, they actually obtained and released, and the mainstream media just kind of looked the other way, of a cash-for-ballot scheme, apparently linked to Elon Omar.
	Of course.
	A strong ally of Keith Ellison.
	And of course, Ilan Omar is now the congresswoman in the district that Keith Ellison used to represent in Minneapolis.
	And, you know, strong evidence of a cash-for-ballot scheme.
	A video of a person driving in a car bragging about all the ballots he was harvesting and collecting and how he was giving money for these ballots.
	So there are definitely indicia of fraud and we need to get to the bottom of it.
	We need to make sure that our elections What are you hearing on the ground, Doug?
	What are you hearing from people who may have voted for Keith Ellison in 2018?
	What do you think their position is?
	Does someone regret it?
	How do you see this race going from here until Election Day next year?
	I'm traveling all over the state and people are fed up with Keith Ellison.
	They're fed up with the Democrats that are in charge of this state.
	They have watched as our cities have burned and Keith Ellison has done nothing.
	They have watched human trafficking rampant across our state.
	They're watching as drug crime skyrockets across the entire state.
	People are against this culture of lawlessness.
	They want to feel safe in their homes, in their neighborhoods.
	They want to feel safe sending their kids to school.
	They want to make sure that their kids come back safely from school to the extent that schools are open, right?
	People are turning against Keith Ellison and people are standing up for freedom and for the rule of law in a big way.
	And so this campaign is about law and order.
	It's about so much more than just making Minnesota safe again, though.
	It's also about our founding principles.
	It's about freedom.
	It's really about whether Minnesotans and Americans are going to rally to the cause of freedom and the cause of the rule of law or cede control of our great country to people like Keith Ellison who want to destabilize it and transform it into something sinister and unrecognizable.
	And I have confidence, talking to people all across this state, that People are rising up and they will choose the rule of law.
	They will choose freedom.
	They are rallying to the cause of our founding principles.
	Doug, how can the listeners of this show, the viewers, how can they find you?
	How can they follow?
	How can they support you in your drive to oust the hateful leftist anti-Semite Keith Ellison as Minnesota Attorney General and for you, Doug Warlow, to be the next Attorney General of Minnesota?
	How can they find you?
	So go to Doug Wardlow AG, standing for Attorney General, dougwardlowag.com, and you can find out a lot more about the race there, and you can contribute and sign up to volunteer.
	And of course, this is a national race because Keith Ellison is a national leader of the radical left, former deputy chair of the Democratic National Committee.
	We must remove Keith Ellison and take back the Attorney General's office here in Minnesota, not for one party or the other, but for the cause of the rule of law.
	God bless you, Doug.
	God bless you, Ron.
	And we'll be right back.
	Thank you, Boris.
	Okay.
	Mics are still on on Rumble.
	So, Mr. Wardlow, can you hear us?
	I can, yep.
	Okay, yep.
	That is the end of the segment.
	Wonderful.
	That was fantastic.
	Doug, that was great.
	Thank you so much.
	All right, thank you.
	Take care now.
	Okay, I'll talk to you offline.
	Thanks.
	Thank you.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay, awesome.
	And we will turn the mics back off, and you can talk to Mr. O'Donnell, who is on the line.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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	And right now with me, we have Patrick O'Donnell, another American hero.
	He was a combat historian and marine rifle platoon during the Battle of Fallujah.
	He often speaks on espionage, special operations, and counterinsurgency.
	He's a best-selling, critically acclaimed military historian and an expert on elite units.
	His latest book is The Indispensables.
	He'll talk to us all about it.
	Patrick, welcome to the show.
	Great to be back with you, Boris.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	So, The Indispensables.
	Let's go to the videotape.
	What's the story?
	The story is about our precious founding, and that right now, as you know, is under assault for a variety of reasons, and that's why this book is relevant.
	This book has many elements of current events in it right now, as we speak.
	The opening chapters of this book begin in 1773-74, where a virus hits the town of Marblehead, Massachusetts, and it's weaponized.
	The town is divided politically between patriots and loyalists.
	It's really an amazing story of how a virus changes life in Marblehead and literally changes the course of the American Revolution as well.
	And what happens is my main characters try to build what's known as an inoculation hospital.
	And at that time, the science wasn't very firm, but inoculation was one way to combat the disease.
	And they built the hospital, but the loyalists in the town weren't having it.
	And they organized a mob of men and they burned it to the ground with people inside.
	And, uh, I mean, miraculously nobody died, but the perpetrators of that, of that act of, of, uh, were, were then rounded up by the local sheriff.
	And, uh, the loyalist in the town had a massive mob of over a thousand people assaulted jail with the axes and crowbars and they freed the men.
	And then they went after the main characters in my book, their homes were surrounded.
	By the mob, I mean, it's really pretty amazing stuff.
	The main character in my book is John Glover, and he had a very unique way of sort of dealing with the situation.
	He knew the mob was coming, and it's a get off your front lawn, my front lawn moment.
	He wheels a four-pound cannon into the foyer of his home, and when the mob shows up, he orders the doors on his house thrust open, and he has a lighted torch in his hand, and he orders them to disperse, which they do.
	But this book is about the Marblehead Regiment and the men that literally shaped our country, formed the Navy, and rode Washington across the Delaware.
	The reason why it's relevant is we wouldn't even be on this radio show as part of the United States had it not been for their actions.
	That's right, that's right.
	What spurred you, what caused you to write this story?
	You've written a lot of books.
	We were one shoulder to shoulder with the Marines who took Fallujah, required reading for the Marines, and appeared on the Commandant's Professional Reading List.
	What made you write The Indispensables?
	It's about our founding.
	Our founding story is absolutely precious.
	I've interviewed 4,000 World War II veterans over the course of the last 30 years.
	And, you know, Brokaw said to me, or, you know, said that that was the greatest generation.
	I remember asking one of those members, uh, Lester Kness, who was a Ranger with Darby's Rangers.
	He's like, I said to him, are you the greatest generation?
	He's like, absolutely not, Pat.
	The greatest generation is the generation that the Revolutionary War generation.
	And he's right because they changed the world for us.
	They changed the world with their actions.
	It's a small group of men in many cases and women.
	that had to go up against the greatest army of the world at the time, the greatest Navy.
	And what most people don't realize is they went against their fellow Americans because half the country was divided.
	It was our first civil war.
	This generation changed the world.
	And the values and ideals that we have today come from that generation.
	It's something we should be very proud of.
	Well, Patrick, I'll tell you that.
	In my family, my grandfather was a World War II veteran, fought against the Nazis.
	He was in the Soviet Union at the time in the Red Army, fought against Nazi Germany, bell to bell, June 1941, May 1945, and then was on his way to Japan, actually, to fight against the Japanese Imperial Army when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed and the war ended.
	So, you know, I'm never going to argue with someone who says that that is the greatest generation.
	My grandfather was a wonderful man.
	A true hero.
	But I think what you're saying makes perfect sense.
	That those men who fought for freedom in America, fought for our rights, fought for this country to be what is the beacon that it is.
	You know, Sebastian and I are both immigrants.
	We're zero generation, right?
	Sebastian came as a young man.
	I came as a little kid.
	I was 11 years old, running away with my family from the rubble of the former Soviet Union.
	And my grandfather came with us, and my grandfather, again, World War II hero, fought the Nazis, saw it all.
	He loved this country.
	For the 10 years he lived here, from 1993 to 2003, he loved America like nothing he's ever loved before.
	He loved America because of the spirit of this country, the welcoming of this country, because of the openness that this country should have, has at its bones, but is struggling with right now.
	And as you, Patrick, are writing about our founding, and you're comparing it to what's happening today, how concerned are you about the leftist, extremist mob that's descending upon America?
	I'm deeply concerned, Boris, about the values and ideals that were formed in the revolution.
	In many cases, our history, there's attempts to rewrite it.
	And this is unacceptable because the founding story is a great story.
	I mean, it's, it's not something we have to, um, you know, show it warts and all, but this is a story of extraordinary story of, of sacrifice, of, of resilience against all odds.
	Um, you know, this shouldn't have, it's a miracle that we won that war.
	And what I see now is people taking that generation for granted.
	The sacrifices that they made are just taken for granted.
	Oh, that would have, you know, it was preordained that we were going to win the American Revolution.
	Absolutely not.
	It's a miracle we won the American Revolution because it was a civil war as well as a war against Great Britain.
	And it was a global war.
	I mean, it's an incredible, you know, the American Revolution changes world history.
	It's one revolution after another that follows it.
	It's the spirit and ideals That America is founded on.
	It's a bedrock principle that changes the world.
	Very well put.
	Patrick, we are coming up to the end of the segment.
	We'd love for you to stay over into the next segment.
	We have lots left to discuss.
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	It's called The Indispensables.
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	We're back with Patrick O'Donnell, best-selling, critically acclaimed military historian, expert on elite units.
	His latest book is The Indispensables.
	The Indispensables.
	Make sure to get it wherever you buy books.
	Patrick.
	Let me ask you this question.
	You're a historian, somebody who really knows American and world history inside and out.
	They say that hegemonies come and go, right?
	Where are we in the history, in the spectrum of American leadership around the world?
	So you don't think we're going to get to deep questions like this?
	We're getting academic here, Patrick, okay?
	It's the last hour.
	We're going deep.
	This is a situation where we have great internal division and that is a problem.
	You know, this is the United States.
	That's not, you know, that's not something that we have to be very careful about that because We have a lot of adversaries, including the CCP and others.
	The Chinese Communist Party, that's right.
	Tehran.
	It's a very dangerous situation where people can miscalculate.
	And so I think we have to be very careful and always be vigilant and always be prepared.
	You know, I think that, you know, leaving Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night is not really something a superpower does.
	It just doesn't, it didn't feel right.
	I mean, leaving Afghanistan, you know, strategically that, is probably the right move, but I don't think the way we went about it was probably the right way to do it.
	I think we have to constantly remain vigilant.
	You know what's interesting, Patrick, on that, real quick, on Afghanistan, I wrote a piece for Newsweek two months ago now comparing Joe Biden, the artist formerly known as Joe Biden, as I like to call him, to the latter leaders of the former Soviet Union, to Brezhnev.
	To Andropov, to Chernenko, not Gorbachev, but to those old leaders who were decrepit, who Ronald Reagan said you couldn't negotiate with them because they kept dying on them.
	And Joe Biden is that level of decrepit.
	And he did in Afghanistan what the former Soviet Union did in Afghanistan, just crept out.
	And that was the very end of that empire.
	And I'm not saying that America is going to come crashing down.
	I'm not.
	I love America.
	I'm going to fight for America till my dying breath.
	America is a country that gave me, my parents, my grandparents, my family, unbelievable opportunity.
	And I'm so thankful for my mom and dad deciding to come to this beautiful country from the rubble of the Soviet Union in 1993.
	As a kid, I saw tanks roll through Moscow in 1991.
	And we came here in September of 93.
	Tanks were back in Moscow a couple of weeks after we left.
	But the point is that we have such a lack of leadership in this country now under Joe Biden and such bad decisions are being made that I am fearful that we are on the precipice of the kind of disaster that faced the Soviet Union at its very end.
	I certainly hope not.
	I think that the key, though, if we look back at the Revolutionary War generation and something that they really understood, was power and how to control and disperse it.
	And this is something my main characters really understood.
	They were the true founders.
	In many cases, the ideals of liberty stem from men like Elbridge Gerry.
	And, you know, he really understands the power and the power of a central government, which he wanted to disperse and make sure that there were checks and balances.
	And this really is something that applies today, especially.
	I mean, where we have power being concentrated in the hands of a few, and that's a very dangerous thing.
	And, uh, you know, I think that we can really learn much from the founders and what they, you know, what, what they were trying to, what they, what they created, you know, with hardly anything.
	They created an incredible country.
	That's right.
	A beautiful country.
	And one of the greatest things that occurred is leadership.
	You know, leadership was so solid.
	It's statesmanlike.
	I mean, look at George Washington.
	I mean, this is a man that, you know, overcame.
	I bring him out in The Indispensables because if The Indispensables were the indispensable men of the revolution, it was Washington who was the indispensable man of the revolution.
	It wouldn't have occurred had it not been for Washington.
	overcame every possible setback, able to change the strategy of the war midway, was able to deal with alliances and hold the country together.
	But the greatest thing he did was resign at the end and turn overpowered.
	He turned overpowered to civilian control, which is amazing.
	He was the most powerful man in the world.
	Patrick, the latest book is The Indispensables.
	God bless you.
	Thanks for being with us.
	Good luck.
	You're spreading the right word.
	The book is The Indispensables.
	Patrick O'Donnell, thanks so much.
	God bless.
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	of America First with Sebastian Gorka today, July 7th, 2021.
	And we'll be back tomorrow on July 8th, 2021 with a packed show, including an hour with Stephen K. Bannon from 3 to 4 p.m.
	Eastern.
	Make sure to tune in.
	We're on rumble.com, rumble.com slash sub Gorka.
	And right now we're going to take a couple of calls.
	We're 833-33 Gorka, 833-33 Gorka.
	833-33-GORCA, 833-33-GORCA.
	Eric, who do we have?
	We've got John on line one.
	John, what's up?
	Boris Epstein, it's an honor, privilege, and pleasure to talk with you.
	Thanks, John.
	No, how are you?
	I'm Epstein, but I'll forgive you.
	Listen, would you watch a conservative version of Saturday Night Live or Jon Stewart?
	Would you do that?
	And why don't we have those?
	Why are those not available to us?
	Why has nobody ever thought to actually undertake producing those?
	Because comedy just absolutely perpetually hammers the opposition.
	And the left has used that on us for years, for decades, and probably even swung a few elections.
	Thank you, John.
	I actually agree with you.
	I think that comedy should be bipartisan.
	I think the Babylon Bee is absolutely hilarious.
	The Babylon Bee being sort of the conservative onion.
	I would answer your question, John, is I would watch anything that's funny.
	SNL has become not funny lately, so I don't watch it.
	I watch things that are funny.
	So, if somebody wants to come up with conservative SNL Saturday Night Live, conservative comedy, let's go.
	Let's have it.
	And I do think that there's a void and I think somebody ought to be stepping into it, but the problem is the woke cancellation left and President Trump's action today in fighting against Twitter, Facebook, Google, fighting back, filing the class action is a big way of us getting back our rights, getting back our First Amendment.
	We've got Sarah from South Carolina online too.
	Sarah, how are you?
	Hi, Boris, it's wonderful to speak with you.
	God bless you.
	I just want to commend you for speaking truth and being a light for us, you know, because America needs men like you, like Bannon, like Dr. Gorka.
	And so many men and women that we depend on because they have the microphones.
	We don't.
	See what I'm saying?
	Sarah, that is so kind.
	I really appreciate you saying that and I appreciate you listening to this show, to other shows.
	There is so much Strong voice out there, and I am thankful for that, for my good friend, Dr. Gorka, for Steve Bannon, for Dan Bongino, and others who are out there fighting.
	But it is because of you, people like you, Sarah, the MAGA movement, the MAGA brain trust, the MAGA posse.
	It is you, the audience, the listeners, who makes this possible.
	So we're actually thankful to you, not just for the kind words, but for continuing to stay strong.
	Thank you so much, and I do want to just say one little thing.
	The greatest tool and weapon that we have is our voices.
	We have been created, like our Creator, to speak.
	And that is the first thing the enemy fights against.
	It does not want us to speak.
	So that's where our battle is.
	As long as we have an open forum, as long as we can share our thoughts, then we are truly free.
	But once you stop people from speaking their mind and being creative, then you have locked down the country.
	I just wanted to say that real quick.
	That's right, Sarah, and thank you so much.
	Thanks for your strength, thanks for listening, but also thanks for speaking up, taking the time to call, having your voice be heard.
	And to all of you, to all the audience, the listeners, the viewers, that is what's vital, to have your voice be heard.
	As Doug Mastriana said in Pennsylvania, let's make sure that when the time comes when Philadelphia County does not turn over the information, That the state senators on that Intergovernmental Operations Committee hear from you, the people of Pennsylvania, hear from their constituents that they better be issuing those subpoenas.
	Same thing in Georgia.
	Back up Brandon Beach.
	Back up Bert Jones.
	Back up Vernon Jones, who's running for governor and who's so focused on election integrity.
	Have your voices be heard in Arizona.
	Give your support to Gunny, Sonny Borelli.
	Give your support to Karen Fenn to keep the audit going, to keep fighting, to keep battling, to not back down to the mob of the woke left, the mob of mainstream media.
	Support your local, state, federal election officials who support and love you, who support and love this Constitution.
	We've got Dan in Minnesota.
	Dan, what's up?
	Thank you, Boris.
	Love to hear you, and love to hear you on Steve Bannon.
	Great show.
	Appreciate it, my friend.
	Thanks so much.
	You know, it's really a shame that a lot of the Salem hosts aren't even talking about November 3rd.
	They don't know the evidence.
	I would suspect they haven't even watched the absolute series by Mike Lindell.
	Thank you, Dan.
	Here's what I'd say.
	I think that there are a lot of viewers out there.
	There are a lot of views out there.
	And the beauty of America is that people get to express their views.
	They get to express their views on the election.
	They get to express their views on the Constitution.
	And they get to be Democrats, conservatives, you know, centrists, whatever they want.
	My problem is when voices are silenced.
	My problem is when conservatives are not allowed or free to speak their mind.
	My problem is when we are not allowed to talk about 3 November 2020.
	We're not allowed to talk about the origins of the Wuhan virus.
	For months and months and months, the mainstream media said, no, you can't even think about the fact that this may have come out of the Wuhan virology lab where they were working on coronaviruses.
	And Jon Stewart said this beautifully when he was on Colbert a couple weeks ago.
	It's literally like saying, oh, I've got chocolate all over me and I was at Hershey, but you know what, it's not because of the Hershey Chocolate Factory.
	Very clear.
	Very well put by a comedian, but somebody who cuts through.
	Somebody who gets it.
	So, my issue is this.
	Let us all speak free.
	Let us all speak loudly, but allow us to speak.
	Do not hold us down, because if you do, we will fight back.
	President Trump is fighting back with his lawsuit.
	Americans are pushing back by pushing that freight train of audits across the country from Arizona to Georgia to Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin, Michigan, and beyond.
	We'll be right back.
	The End
	Thank you.
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
	America first.
	Brian Stelty Stelter.
	He published a book.
	Nobody bought it.
	He's got a show where he whines and cries about President Trump.
	Nobody watches.
	He's a pathetic little guy.
	That's Brian Stelter.
	And that's a cynical, hypocritical network.
	CNN used to be a news network.
	Now it's a clown network.
	That's what CNN is.
	Well, friends?
	It is 555.
	I've got less than three minutes left with you today, but I am back with you tomorrow.
	I'm back with you tomorrow, and we are going to have a pack show.
	It's going to be a great show.
	Steve Bannon, three to four o'clock.
	We should have Vernon Jones.
	We're going to have other key newsmakers from all across the country talking to you.
	It is such an honor for me to be here.
	Such an honor for me to guest host America First for my good friend MAGA champion Sebastian Gorka and specifically to do it today.
	Why today?
	Because of the major news, the major news that was announced in Pennsylvania and the groundbreaking lawsuit being filed by President Trump, our 45th and 47th president, hopefully 47th president of the United States, class action lawsuit filed against Twitter, against Google, against Facebook, and their CEOs personally, so this is no longer just a corporate fight.
	Now it's personal.
	Now it's personal.
	Because we know that these corporate social media giants and their CEOs did all they could To get the artist formerly known as Joe Biden elected as president.
	But you know what?
	President Trump isn't not taking it.
	He's not sitting back.
	He's fighting.
	And that is exactly what I want to talk to you about in these last 90 seconds.
	I want to talk to you, this audience, the MAGA power, the MAGA brain trust, the MAGA movement.
	I want to talk to you about continuing to stand strong.
	You have withstood so much.
	An assault from mainstream media.
	An assault from Democrats.
	An assault from establishment Republicans.
	A pandemic unleashed on us from China.
	How?
	Well, we're getting to the bottom of that.
	We're getting to the bottom of that.
	You have withstood so much.
	That I believe was stolen.
	I'm gonna say it right now.
	There was a rampant election fraud.
	And we know that for a fact.
	And still, you, the MAGA movement, the MAGA brain trust, the MAGA posse, you're standing strong.
	And I'm so proud to be a humble voice for that.
	So proud to be here to talk about the fright train of audits that's going from Arizona to Pennsylvania to Georgia to Michigan, then to Wisconsin and all across the country.
	And I humbly thank you for continuing to stand strong.
	Humbly thank you for continuing to fight.
	And I know that my good friend Sebastian Gorka thanks you.
	And I know that the 45th and hopefully 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, is so thankful to you too.
	God bless all of you.
	Stay strong.
	And I'll see you tomorrow at 3 o'clock Eastern.
	Have a great day.
	Have a great night.
	God bless all of you.

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