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Kurt Schlichter FULL SHOW: Would Biden pass a cognitive test?

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	Thank you.
	This is America First, and I'd like to introduce our very special guest host, Kurt Schlichter.
	Yeah.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Yes, I am Kurt Schlichter.
	I am here in the command module here in Los Angeles.
	For America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Of course, today we are Gorka Free!
	But you know what we're packed with?
	We are packed with goodness!
	We got guests, we got news, we got everything!
	Holy cow!
	Hey, who am I?
	What's my deal?
	Let me tell you.
	I am the Senior Columnist at TownHall.com.
	You can go to Town Hall and read my new column.
	I do one every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
	It's entitled...
	Actually, okay.
	Right there.
	Error!
	Entitled is not the word.
	Titled.
	It is titled.
	I hate when people do that.
	It is titled.
	Every new Republican is the most evil Republican ever.
	It is insightful, it is hilarious, and it is amazing if I say so myself.
	And of course I do, because I am also a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
	So I don't have any ego issues.
	I'm very comfortable with having one the size of the Hindenburg.
	I am also a retired United States Army colonel.
	I was not a JAG like Ted Lieu.
	I was an infantry officer, active duty and reserve.
	I was in National Guard in California.
	I was in Desert Storm.
	I deployed after 9-11 to Kosovo and I was in the Los Angeles riots, not as a participant.
	I was helping to suppress I am also the author of a number of books, including the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative action novels.
	The most recent is Crisis and The Split, the sixth in the series.
	Which Dr. Gorka is going to be very, very entertained to read.
	I know he reads them all.
	He's going to like this one especially, and so are you.
	It's got crocodiles and a HK417 rifle on the cover, so you're really going to like it.
	It comes out July 22nd.
	Let's get right to the news.
	The President went down to the border, where there were actual things happening.
	Not like Kamala Harris, who visited an airport near the border.
	And, of course, it was amazing, as the President always is.
	He was on fire, as usual.
	He started talking about cognitive tests.
	And he basically says, you know, I should have taken a cognitive test.
	And Congressman Ronnie Jackson, who used to be his naval surgeon, was there.
	And he's joking back and forth with Congressman Jackson.
	And he basically says, yeah, you take a cognitive test.
	The first questions, they're easy.
	It's like, look at this.
	It's an animal.
	Is this a horse?
	Is this a pig?
	Is this a duck?
	What is it?
	They get a little harder.
	Now, the guy who's president right now He may have trouble with the early questions.
	I'm just saying.
	I just don't want to be there.
	Oh my gosh.
	And, you know, last time we were here together on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka, except with me, we talked about whether the president was going to run again.
	And I've written about that at townhall.com.
	And I just became aware.
	I got a little gossip.
	And I got off another Salem show.
	It was my friend Rick Grinnell.
	You guys know Rick Grinnell.
	Great ambassador.
	The guy I hope is vice president next time.
	I'll throw my biases right out there for you.
	He is a terrific guy.
	I worked with him.
	In Las Vegas, this will become significant in a moment, folks, because another guy I work for the President with in Las Vegas will be coming up, Matt Schlapp, in the next segment.
	But Rick Grinnell said, hey, last time I talked to the President, a few months ago, he said, If I'm healthy in January 23, I'm running.
	Now, I can't do a Donald Trump impression.
	No one can do a Donald Trump impression.
	There are lots of politicians who want to do a Donald Trump impression, but they're not the real thing.
	But I was intrigued to hear that.
	He thinks he's running again.
	He told Sean Hannity last night, yes, I've made a decision about whether I'm going to run.
	And you're like, okay, Sean, next question.
	And Sean's like, okay, hey, look, a squirrel.
	And it's like, no, no, no!
	Of course, he's not going to drop the dime now.
	It's not going to tell us now.
	He's going to save it.
	He's going to savor the anticipation.
	But it's not like there aren't a lot of things going on.
	I mean, the Trump Organization got busted for tax evasion.
	Massive tax fraud, say the blue check Twitters.
	Okay.
	It's pretty much summed up by, well, there was a bodyguard who had a company car and he didn't fully allocate the personal and business use of it.
	Oh my gosh!
	Busted!
	You know, and to think I was making fun of the FBI for going full Dragnet, full Inspector Erskine on a bunch of geriatrics taking selfies in the Rotunda, and then this comes along.
	It's like, that all you got?
	No, Donald Trump was not indicted himself.
	It's just another example of change of rules, because I can almost guarantee you that a lot of those donors to Democrats out there are doing exactly the same kind of petty, sorta tax shenanigans.
	Guys, is this the rule you want to establish?
	Because the next president, whether it's Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Rick Grenell, Someone else who isn't Kamala Harris, because she ain't ever going to be president, because no one likes her.
	Is that the precedent you guys want to set?
	Go find your political enemies and then bust them for some chicken scratch, um, tax nonsense?
	I mean, even, you know, Maddow's got to be, yeah, they're busting for tax evasion!
	And here's the...
	Is this right?
	Are you sure this is correct?
	Are you guys... We're going with this?
	Are we really going with this?
	That's my Maddow impression, folks.
	Here on America First.
	Now, there's other stuff going on too, and one thing that caught my eye, right, was the attempt to force Manchin and Sinema into obedience, because they appear to be getting in the way, you know, wanting to not be, you know, voted out of office and all, because, you know, Arizona elected her, and it went, you know, and it's kind of trending purple.
	But they aren't hardcore liberals, and of course West Virginia is the most Trump state there was.
	So these guys, you know, they gotta walk a fine line.
	They can't vote like AOC, right?
	So the media's got in there to discipline them.
	Apparently businessinsider.com has a headline.
	Former Senator Kyrsten Sinema's staffer detail a demoralizing office environment.
	Now, this is, I love this.
	And I think this is the reporter Robin Bravender who wrote this piece.
	Here's a tweet.
	Just a little savor it.
	One former intern said she fielded constant angry phone calls from cinema's constituents and got reprimanded by a senior staffer when she went off script, and that that staffer later threatened to derail her next internship offer.
	The intern mailed an advisor to ask for advice!
	I can give you advice, intern!
	Do what you're told!
	Don't go off script, okay?
	No one cares what some 20-year-old from Gumbo State University working on her dual, you know, degree in sociology and gender studies thinks, okay?
	Constituent calls you, you treat them with respect.
	Look, I was an intern 35 years ago right now for Congressman Duncan Hunter 1.0.
	He was like a ranger in Vietnam, kept a shotgun in his closet.
	We got along really well.
	Now, one thing I wasn't was a whining little brat who complained that people gave me grief when I screwed up, as the intern did.
	Well, I just went off script.
	No one needs the intern.
	No one needs the intern's input.
	Anyway, we got Matt Schlapp coming up.
	I worked with him in Vegas defending the president.
	He's got CPAC 2 coming up.
	Stick around here on America First.
	And we're off to the races.
	Clear.
	Okay.
	Was that musing?
	Yes.
	Mics are still live on the Rumble on Facebook broadcast.
	Would you like them muted or do you want to keep them on?
	I can stay on.
	I don't care.
	Alright.
	Mics are on.
	How's it going?
	I'm not going to say anything interesting.
	So, I didn't even catch that.
	So, the intern complained that a constituent got mad at her on the phone?
	No.
	No.
	She went off script with a constituent.
	Okay.
	And then her boss said, don't do that.
	And she was literally shaking.
	She's like, I'm emailing my advisor.
	You told me no.
	For me it was... I'm like, what would possess you to think that your boss can't tell you no?
	Now I occasionally hire Millennials, so sometimes I get that.
	I swear I had one... I'll tell you a story somewhere.
	Okay, so apparently Facebook has this new thing where the moment you log on, so many of my friends are getting this and I got this.
	It's a notification, it pops up immediately.
	It says, in this case, Eric, you may have been exposed to harmful extremist content recently.
	Violent groups try to manipulate your anger and disappointment.
	You can take action now to protect yourself and others.
	And there's an option to either close out the notification or to, quote, get support from experts.
	Spot the signs, understand the dangers of extremism, and hear from people who escaped violent groups.
	This is real!
	You mean, like, guys who got away from communism, like my wife?
	I don't see him calling her up to Oh, well.
	Good lord.
	This is real, like, they ain't gonna stop anytime soon.
	This is gonna get a lot worse.
	It's gonna get worse, and then they're going to lose.
	I hope so.
	And they're going to lose because they're soft, and they're stupid, and they're weak, and they're garbage.
	Well, that SCOTUS ruling on the Arizona election laws is definitely encouraging, so yeah.
	I love that.
	If we keep that up, then yeah, I think Trump could possibly win in 24.
	Or whoever it is, I suppose.
	Speaking of Grinnell, so you mentioned, you know, when you last had Grinnell on and he basically said he's not running for governor of California.
	Yeah.
	And then that didn't make news.
	No, not at all.
	I was like, Oh my gosh, where's the... Some guy at Media Matters went, Oh, interesting.
	Interesting.
	Well, and now I hear a guess, apparently Kevin Kiley is considering jumping into the race, like, okay.
	Why?
	I know, I'm like, why?
	I mean, I don't have any problem with Kevin Kiley, it's just like, why?
	I mean, like, I, for me, it's anyone who's not Falconer is definitely my top pick.
	Just anyone who's not Falconer, that's me personally, but.
	Oh man.
	You got thunder rolling.
	Hey, do we got Matt?
	He's not answering, I'm texting him.
	Jeff is texting him.
	Maybe the storm knocked out our phone lines.
	Liz Schell just said, hey, there's a storm.
	Yeah.
	Storm's coming.
	I am the storm!
	Weren't there two earthquakes in the Bay Area over the course of like two days just recently?
	Like 4.0s?
	Oh, I don't know.
	I want the whole place to shake into the sea, so... Lex Luthor's plan from the original Superman, just break the San Andreas wall.
	That was the only superhero movie I actually like is that one.
	Really?
	Otis is, uh... Ned Beatty as Otis is pretty fucking classic.
	That is pretty great, yeah.
	Had a good theme.
	He's not answering.
	Do you want to go to Liz and then try and get him...
	No, he's... If he doesn't answer, he doesn't answer.
	15 seconds.
	Do you want me to open the phones then if he's not on?
	Or no?
	Yeah, let's open the phones.
	Ten seconds.
	Stand by.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, and this is America First with the one and only Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka!
	It is me, Kurt Schlichter, senior columnist at townhall.com, California trial lawyer, retired United States Army colonel, author of the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative action novels.
	While we're waiting for Matt Schlapp, I want to hear from you!
	I want to hear from you.
	833-33-GORKA.
	That's 833-334-6752.
	What do you have to say?
	What do you think of the Trump Tax Conspiracy?
	Si, si, si.
	I'm my own echo machine.
	What do you think of uppity interns on Capitol Hill?
	What do you think of this cheesy, tacky attempt to intimidate Kyrsten Sinema?
	Okay?
	Remember, like, a month ago, she was, like, everybody's favorite?
	She wore, like, funky boots, and everyone was like, oh, you slay queen!
	Yes!
	And now it's like, she's in the way of the communist overthrow of the United States of America, and now it's like, you're the worst person ever.
	You torment interns.
	What kind of society, people, do we have that gives a damn about interns?
	I mean, really, that ought to be the test for seriousness of a civilization.
	Do you care what the interns think?
	If you do, your civilization's bound to fall.
	That's how Rome fell.
	You know, Flavius had an intern who was like, hey, you feeling good?
	You feeling good, Marcus?
	No, I'm feeling bad.
	Really?
	Then everything fell apart.
	In came the Huns, out went the Romans, over to Byzantium for another thousand years.
	But that is a different story.
	Speaking of great historical developments, Supreme Court finally came through.
	You know, a lot of people out there whining about President Trump.
	Oh, his mean tweets!
	But you know, one thing he did, is he did get us the Supreme Court back.
	And that's important.
	That's super important.
	And the Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, basically said, yeah, Arizona, it's cool if you outlaw ballot harvesting, that's fine.
	And no, it's not an undue burden.
	To ask the people who don't take advantage of the 27-day mail-in pre-voting period and go on the day of the election to vote in their own precinct.
	Oh, and if you go to the wrong precinct, they also say, no, no, no, that's the correct precinct over there.
	Go over there.
	What's amazing to me is Kagan, Sotomayor, and Breyer All said, no, no, no, this is an unspeakable hassle.
	You can't just vote anywhere you want.
	It's racist.
	I don't know how.
	I don't know why.
	I don't understand it.
	Now call me cynical, and you can, because like I said, I am a noted Los Angeles trial lawyer.
	You can call me cynical, but here's the deal.
	I think, and I want you to hold on, if you're driving, slow down.
	If you're standing, find a seat.
	I want you to, because this is going to blow your bourgeois mind.
	I think the Democrats want to change the election system so it's easier for them to cheat.
	Yeah!
	Look, I know it's crazy.
	I know you're thinking, Kurt, that's nuts.
	But no, no, no.
	Hear me out.
	Because it seems to me, and I don't think I'm insane, that if you can't support kind of basic principles like you got to vote here and you can't have some guy go around and grab up a whole bunch of weird ballots, take custody of them, and turn them in or not turn them in as he pleases.
	Well, I think that maybe...
	Maybe you're just trying to get an unfair advantage.
	John, in St.
	Paul, Minnesota, what say you?
	Well, I say Trump is not the guy for 2024.
	No deep state people were arrested.
	Nobody was prosecuted.
	He put Bill Barron, who was a deep state guy.
	DeSantis looks like the only promising conservative candidate I can see in the horizon.
	And honestly, Kurt, it might just be like one of your books.
	That this country's going to split in half because they're letting so many people in from the border now that we're never going to be able to win an election again in the future if we don't stop this immigration.
	Well, John, first of all, thank you for the plug of my Kelly Turnbull series of conservative action novels.
	Start them out with People's Republic, the first.
	But let me play devil's advocate here for you.
	OK, and I, you know, I haven't made a decision.
	I'm open minded.
	And I believe that Donald Trump, if he wishes to be a candidate, has to earn my vote.
	But there are a lot of people who don't feel like that.
	There are a lot of conservatives, including ones that are friends of mine and I respect greatly, who say, look, I am in for Donald Trump.
	He was ripped off by this baloney election.
	And look, again, I went to Nevada with Rick Grinnell and Matt Schlappen.
	It was baloney.
	And they say, I am not going to vote for anyone else.
	Sorry.
	Is that enough to allow Kamala Harris to slither into office?
	Well, I mean, you know, I mean, they stole the election.
	There's no doubt about it.
	I voted here in Minnesota.
	Okay.
	There's an old elderly lady when I checked in.
	Okay.
	They didn't ask for ID.
	I gave him my name.
	She said, the person who came in right before me on her computer said they are, this person already voted in Minneapolis was trying to vote again in St.
	Paul.
	And she said it took eight steps on her computer to back this guy out of the system and cancel his vote because there was so much fraud.
	Now, this is an elderly lady who, I wasn't going to lie to me.
	It's like there's so much election fraud, Kurt.
	I don't see how we can win another election.
	I just don't see it.
	Well, let me say this, John, and I appreciate your call.
	I think there are a lot of problems with our election system.
	Obviously, I was in Nevada, you know?
	I was there with Rick Grinnell, who was running the operation.
	I caught COVID there.
	There are three kinds of problems.
	Problem A, outright fraud.
	Now people will tell you, there was no fraud.
	Well, the first night we found a dead person who voted.
	So there was fraud.
	You know, regular ballot stuffing fraud.
	Dead people voting fraud.
	There was fraud.
	How much there was is a different issue, but you can't say none.
	What we're talking about is the extent.
	Okay?
	That's problem one.
	Problem two, is the extrajudicial changing of the rules in the midst of the game.
	There were lots of changes to election laws, many of them that Republicans kind of went, okay, well, we got COVID going on, so we, you know, we can't be so picky about, you know, election procedures, which are the one thing you should absolutely be picky about.
	And those were not put through in the proper way, and of course the courts refused to entertain a remedy for them, leaving us without a remedy, which is itself a huge problem.
	Then there was the informal problem, which is the entire establishment, including and especially the media, putting its thumb on the scale in favor of that desiccated old weirdo over the great and accomplished Donald Trump.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	This is America First.
	And we will be right back.
	We will be right back.
	Clear.
	That was okay, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	All right, Matt said, he just called like two minutes ago.
	He said he can do whatever.
	You want to do him this segment here?
	Yeah, let's do this segment.
	All right, do you want to move Job Creators Network?
	Yeah, I'll do Job Creators and the other one in the other times.
	Yeah, let's just get him in.
	All right.
	Alrighty.
	How's it going, Rumble viewers?
	1,500 watching the stream today.
	Welcome, guys.
	Is that it?
	I thought last time I crossed 2,000.
	You did.
	Well, the show is still young.
	The show is still young.
	I'll pimp Rumble.
	How did I find it?
	Just Google Seb Gorpa.
	Seb Gorpa.
	Sebastian Gorpa.
	Seb Gorpa.
	That's a different guy.
	Isn't the link in the tweet?
	Yes, it is.
	You can retweet the show tweet, too.
	Yeah, posted by Seb's account.
	Also retweeted your latest, uh, column.
	I love that you used that picture of Trump and all the European leaders.
	That's one of my favorite things.
	Oh, he's so amazing.
	All right.
	I love that Russian thug-looking photo of mine. - I look like, I look like I'm about to, you know, Go collect a debt.
	I like how my neck isn't thin either.
	This is great.
	Everything's working out.
	The title of your column is really accurate, though.
	I mean, I remember when they literally called Bush and Cheney war criminals and said they were the worst things ever.
	And now, suddenly, they love the Bushes and the Cheneys.
	Read the thing.
	I am not nice to Mr. Bush.
	Oh no, of course not.
	I am not nice to him.
	Mic's are live and Mr. Schlapp is on the line.
	Mike's in the break.
	We're live on Rumble during the break.
	Mike's are live, and...
	Mr. Schlapp is on the line.
	Hey, Matt.
	How's it going, man?
	Kurt, how are you?
	I'm doing great!
	I mean, they can hear us on Rumble, we're not on the air, but I'm going to ask you, we'll talk a little about CPAC and then we'll go right into this election thing, since you and I are vets of the election war.
	Wait a minute, you're going to let the Rumble audience think that I need the questions ahead of time because I'm small-minded and I can't react?
	No!
	They're going to do it because I'm an Army officer and I always brief before I conduct an operation.
	All right, I like that.
	That's a good way to look at it.
	I'm getting trained.
	Yeah, well... I'm still mad at you because you didn't catch COVID and I did.
	I didn't catch COVID on private planes, on commercial planes, in this hotel, in that conference room.
	I had a person with COVID come into my office and shut the door and I was like, oh my god, I'm going to literally get COVID like in the next two minutes.
	And I kept going over to open the door because I was like, I was pretty sure that person had COVID, even though they weren't saying they had COVID.
	That's hilarious.
	Actually, I probably got it, as you know.
	Maybe I'm just kind of, that's the only thing in life I'm not susceptible to.
	Hey, we are 30 seconds out.
	Stand by. Stand by. Stand by.
	Stand by.
	America First.
	Can you believe it?
	They are saying that they don't agree with America First.
	How do you say that?
	Magnificent.
	We're back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I am your guest host, Kurt Schlichter, and I am proud to introduce my battle buddy from the post-election legal fight in Las Vegas, Nevada, the guy who brings you CPAC, Matt Schlapp.
	How you doing?
	Hey Kurt, great to be with you again.
	Where the hell is Seb?
	I don't know!
	He's off doing things, having activities.
	He's a man about town.
	He's making moves on the street.
	He's like a combination between Starsky and Hutch.
	So Matt, you and I were together in Las Vegas.
	We were.
	And you didn't get COVID and I did.
	How did that happen?
	It's the truth.
	You know, uh, my wife cannot believe that I did not get Chinese Corona is what I call it.
	And it did seem like there was one time I was on a private plane and everybody got COVID but me.
	So I was thinking, you know how this virus works.
	I probably actually did get it, but some people get mild cases of it, but I didn't have any symptoms or anything.
	So I don't know, for whatever reason, I just started getting to the point where it's like, Some people get this thing, God forbid, and others don't, and that's just the way it goes.
	Well, like you, Matt, I am one of the elite in that, like you, I am married to a beautiful Cuban-American woman.
	And, of course, I gave her COVID, and I got the full wrath.
	So that was... You're like, better you and me, pal.
	We did have one person on our team in Vegas Who apparently got COVID and I thought the person was just hungover.
	And I kept saying, where is this person?
	And they're like, he or she, I'm not going to give anything away, just really has a terrible headache.
	And then by like the second or third day is he or she really has a terrible headache.
	And I was like, wait a minute.
	I don't think it's a headache.
	I think at first, anyway.
	Everyone got through it.
	Yeah, well, we had plenty of headaches with the election laws.
	I was just wondering, before we talk about CPAC, which is coming in a week, what you thought of the Supreme Court decision validating reasonable election laws.
	Liberals are very unhappy, Matt.
	Yeah, no, I mean, I guess the only thing that bothers me is that it looked like the Republicans stuck together, but the Democrats didn't join the Republicans.
	And the Republicans have been joining the Democrats on some 9-0 decisions, and the Roberts court and the Chief Justice is trying to send out this message that there could be a consensus court and the nine people could stick together.
	But you know, Kurt, I don't know what's wrong with Democrat justices.
	They can't even stand up for the idea of having clean voter records and voter ID.
	You know, if I was a cynical guy, Matt Schlapp of the American Conservative Union, I would think that perhaps they were trying to cheat.
	Now, you are the maestro of the symphony that is CPAC, and we're doing it in Dallas, and you've actually got me coming out there doing a panel.
	We're excited about that.
	I hear a rumor that the greatest president of the last 25 years is going to be there too.
	Yeah, Donald Trump is going to close it out on Sunday.
	He's going to come in from Vegas, where I think he's going to watch a certain fight.
	And he's going to come in and close down the event.
	And I think it's just perfect.
	I think it's the right time.
	He's back there on the road.
	He's getting involved in these primaries.
	He's holding rallies.
	And it's just apropos that he be the headliner at a CPAC right in the middle of it.
	Well, Matt Schlapp, even before I started speaking at CPAC, I went because I love it.
	Because you're fine, look, especially me, I'm in Los Angeles, okay?
	I'm always diversity for the leftists, right?
	I'm the one conservative.
	You go there, you go to a CPAC, and it's people who think like us, who are working together.
	Tell us, what can we expect from CPAC Dallas from the 9th to the 11th?
	I think in Orlando at the CPAC we had after they canceled us up here, In the swamp, we really focused on all of this voter irregularity and the Bill of Rights.
	And I think talking about the voter problems is something we're going to have to keep talking about.
	But I think that the new wrinkle is this pushback of grassroots American patriots at school boards, in these local elections and for sheriff races, people pushing back on defunding cops, pushing back on CRT, pushing back on destroying girls sports, just everyday Americans.
	taking back their communities.
	And we're going to have a lot of those heroes there at CPAC in Dallas.
	Well, Matt Schlapp, I want to thank you for coming aboard here on America First and for reminiscing about, you know, old war stories of fighting for election integrity.
	Hopefully we won't have to do it again next time, but we've got to be ready.
	Hopefully.
	I will see you and your beautiful bride next week in Dallas, and you'll be happy to know I'm bringing mine, too.
	We just need to keep the two Cuban women away from each other.
	There could form a singularity.
	And we are a singularity of conservative goodness here on the Seb Gorka Show, America First.
	I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	I'll be right back with Liz Sheld.
	Claire.
	How was that?
	That was okay.
	He dropped.
	Yeah, he's gone.
	Oh yeah, I was lucky to get him for as much as I did.
	He's a good guy.
	I like that guy.
	High in demand.
	He is a high demand guy, but he makes time for Dr. Gorka.
	Okay, next up.
	Okay, show going okay so far?
	Yeah.
	Not a total drain wreck?
	No issues, so I can think.
	It's going quite well.
	No issues.
	Half the battle are these breaks, so, you know, that will remain to be seen, but so far I think it is going quite well.
	I think the Rumble audience agrees.
	Rumble!
	Hi, RumbleFish!
	1,800 watching now, so we are inching closer to your previous record.
	What is the record for Seb Gorka Rumble viewership?
	For Seb Gorka Rumble viewers?
	YouTube was like 35,000.
	Yeah, that was... For Rumble, the current record is 3,500 simultaneously and that was for an hour with Marjorie Taylor Greene in studio.
	Oh, for the whole hour.
	Oh, wow.
	Hi, it's Geoff Cohn with Kurt Schlichter.
	Holy cow.
	Yeah, people love MTG.
	If he talks you into breaks, the mics are live on Rumble during the break.
	And Liz is on the line.
	Hi, Liz.
	How are you doing?
	Good.
	Good.
	I hear you have weather.
	We had a really bad storm for, like, 20 minutes.
	Like, biblical.
	Like, you know what I mean?
	Like, angry.
	I'm from L.A.
	I've heard of it.
	It's over.
	It's 72 and sunny in Glendale.
	Oh, it's so hot.
	It's really hot here.
	Humid.
	It's hot out here for a pimp.
	You got your mind on your money and your money on your mind.
	Oh, so what's our topic?
	Just so I can meet you.
	Oh, I don't know.
	Okay, that's great.
	Fine, we're doing open mic night.
	Yeah, it's open mic night.
	They never go south.
	What could go wrong?
	God, I remember when I was doing stand-up and we'd do these open mics and Harina would just sit there in horror watching other people and she'd look at me and she'd go, he doesn't hear the silence.
	Oh boy, I bet that must have been fun.
	It was great.
	When she had the first kid, she's like, no more hanging out in smoky, grungy bars.
	I'm like, okay.
	I wonder where I can be, uh, gosh, if only there was some sort of electronic forum where I could be a smart person.
	I'm trying to stay FCC compliant.
	Oh, that's right.
	Cause we're on, they said we're live on rumble.
	So hi rumble.
	Hi rumble.
	Rumble says hi.
	It's the rumble fish.
	Oh, that's cool.
	Yeah, I just made that up.
	That's cool.
	Are you guys doing anything for Fourth of July?
	We're going to hang out with my parents.
	I'm going to drink a bottle of the wine Julie Kelly gave me tomorrow.
	She's on later today.
	I know.
	We just taped our podcast, like, an hour ago.
	Which you haven't had me on in a while, just saying.
	Oh yeah, we should do that.
	Yeah.
	We should.
	Now, what's a proper title?
	Editor of American Greatness?
	Poobah?
	Senior Editor.
	Senior News Editor, I guess, is my formal title.
	You guys are killing it, too.
	You've got a lot of good stuff.
	What, Am Greatness, or me?
	Yeah.
	Oh, both of you.
	Both of you.
	You guys are both great.
	Yeah.
	You rock the mic and perpetrate.
	You slay all suckas state to state.
	Oh, that's right.
	I gotta get up on my rap.
	I'm just not cool.
	Oh, by the way, Bismarck Key is apparently in hospice.
	What?
	I don't know who that is.
	He's a rapper.
	One of his hits was Pickin' Boogers.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't know that.
	I'm not cool.
	You know, I got a lot of street cred.
	15 seconds.
	Standby.
	God, I can't believe we're giving up this gold just for the Rumble guys.
	10 seconds.
	On the side of the U.S. Constitution, Constitution, America first!
	We are back!
	Back with some madness bumper music!
	How appropriate!
	This is Kurt Schlichter.
	I'm sitting in for Dr. Sepp Gorka here on America First.
	And I am pleased!
	to be here with one of my favorite people in the world, Liz Scheldt, Senior News Editor at American Greatness.
	Hi, Liz.
	How you doing?
	Hello.
	Hello, Kurt.
	Thanks for having me.
	Thanks for being here.
	I'm glad we could.
	Now, guys, if you're just listening this, you should go listen on Rumble because you would have gotten the interstitial discussion between me and Liz when we were talking about such things as the imminent passing of Notre Dame legend Bismarck.
	Go listen!
	Go listen!
	topics uh and subjects so go go get on rumble and listen to it and listen now liz we've got so much going on here i don't even know where to start and as uh as we agreed we aren't going to have any kind of plan or script to get in the way of our improvisation so uh exactly the open mic night of conservatism um Oh no, we got an objectivist prop comic coming up.
	Anyway, Donald Trump went to the border.
	He went to the actual border as opposed to an airport kind of near a border like Kamala Harris did.
	And next week he will be down at CPAC where I will be.
	I'm moderating a panel on Saturday.
	He's going to make his big speech to conservatives there on Sunday at CPAC 2 Electric Boogaloo in Dallas.
	And is Donald Trump coming back?
	I think he is.
	I definitely think he wants to stay relevant, and he should.
	He has a lot of clout.
	I mean, I don't know what he's going to do in 2024, but he certainly has a lot of clout, and he should strategically use that in the 2022 midterms.
	I think his endorsement carries a lot of influence, so he needs to make sure he endorses really good candidates on the right to run for office and replace either bad Republicans, of which there are so many, and Democrats.
	Yes, there are a bunch of bad Republicans, and I think Donald Trump is going to be the fiery valkyrie of vengeance.
	I hope so.
	Go up and campaign against Murkowski and of course the Beltway cowgirl Liz Cheney who just got appointed to the totally real not a scam and not a sham at all commission on befuddled elderly DC tourists.
	The J6 stealthy stick revolution that we saw.
	When I saw that I thought, you know, this is not a good optics for her re-election.
	She's problematic, who I believe is redistricted out of office.
	So he's completely irrelevant.
	But it's Liz Cheney and the Democrats.
	Now, she lives.
	She's from Wyoming.
	How does she think that's going to play to Wyoming?
	Well, what they're going to do is they're going to try and pull a New York and create some sort of a baffling, weird voting method that somehow assures that she'll be able to win against all the people who, you know, aren't treacherous.
	I think that's what she's going to do.
	I just don't think that's gonna work.
	The people in Wyoming are not the people in New York.
	And they're not gonna fall for that crap.
	I mean, New York has some weird, like...
	It's a strange method no one understands.
	Ranked choice.
	I know what ranked choice voting is.
	It's just stupid.
	I mean, why do you even bother?
	You vote for the person that you want in office like normal people do.
	There's no need for ranked choice voting unless you're playing a game.
	So I think voters in Wyoming are smarter.
	I don't think they would fall for that.
	I think it's not good for her.
	It's not a good look.
	It's Liz Cheney and the Democrats.
	So I wouldn't be surprised if she's not back in office.
	I mean, it's very possible she doesn't run for re-election because someone's going to give her a poll and it's not going to look good for her.
	Well, look, she's pulling right down there with herpes.
	At least getting herpes is arguably fun.
	And I think you're right about Adam Kitzinger.
	What's beautiful about him being gerrymandered into oblivion is that it's his new friends, the Democrats, doing it.
	He's like, was I good?
	Was I good?
	All people were wondering, why is he doing this?
	Because he's been acting, he's behaving like he's a big never-Trumper.
	And the reason is he was hoping to get some pity from his Democrat overlords on the redistricting stuff.
	And look, it didn't pan out for him.
	So, you know, I'm sure there's an MSNBC contract waiting for him.
	He can take his place, you know, dumping all over his political party every night after he is out of office.
	Well, and he will be out of office.
	Look, there are a lot fewer of these guys than there used to be.
	And I hear a lot of people complain, I can't hang out with Liz Cheney, it's horrible, all these Republicans are garbage.
	Yeah.
	Okay, I, you know, I'm digging what you're telling me.
	But there are fewer of them than there used to be.
	We are making progress.
	Oh, absolutely we are.
	Am I crazy?
	No, you're right.
	And I think that, I mean, just go back to the congressional results in 2016, right?
	Completely out of the blue, there was almost no money put into those races.
	Everybody thought there was going to be a slaughter.
	And it turned out that with no money and not a lot of extra work, The GOP almost took the majority of the House, and I think we're going to keep moving in that direction, especially if former President Trump is smart with his endorsements.
	And I hope that a lot of the hanger-oners and opportunists that were around him and gave him bad counsel for four years have skedaddled and are not around him anymore, and he's getting better advice.
	Well, I certainly hope so, too, because there were, you know, call me crazy, and you will.
	I think Donald Trump sometimes had problems with personnel.
	Now, he had some great personnel choices, like our eponymous Dr. Seb Gorka, and Robert O'Brien, a bunch of other folks.
	But sometimes, maybe not so great.
	Liz, will you stick around over the break?
	I want to talk about some other personnel issues in our military, the woke military.
	This is going to be good.
	This is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I'm guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	Stick around. Clear.
	All right.
	Well, I thought that was fun.
	Yeah, I'm excited to talk about the woke military.
	Oh, it's a subject near and dear to my Kevlar.
	How embarrassing.
	How embarrassing.
	Oh my gosh.
	I had, I want to be vague about it, very, very, very senior officer communication.
	Not happy.
	So I'm like, okay, maybe we don't fire all of them.
	Just most.
	But yeah.
	It was terrible.
	What a clown show.
	Whenever I hear about these things, all I can hope is that there are more people that think like me and say, this is embarrassing.
	This isn't progressive or something.
	This is ridiculous.
	What are we going to do, like send protesters over to our enemies or something?
	Are they going to protest?
	I mean, are they going to agitate for social justice?
	I think we're going to interrogate them about the privilege that they demonstrate under the patriarchal paradigm.
	You know, it's just so silly.
	It's silly.
	This is what happens when people are too comfortable.
	Yes.
	You know, it's like a luxury to go out and complain about things like your pronouns.
	Yes, they're so affluent they can afford to be frivolous.
	No, exactly.
	I mean, real people are like trying to make ends meet.
	You know, we just took a big crushing blow with the coronavirus lockdowns and businesses are shut down.
	Who the hell is worried about their pronouns?
	They're like, well, my family business is destroyed.
	You know, my kids just didn't have a year of education and they're dumber than they were when it started.
	It's terrible.
	Well, I'll tell you, it's, uh, it's pathetic, but that's OK.
	We'll win.
	Terrible.
	We'll win.
	We'll mock him.
	That Milly guy.
	Holy crap.
	Yeah, he was like Commander of Delta Force or something.
	He, really?
	He was a Delta Force commander?
	Well, he was definitely a Green Beret.
	I think he was a Delta Force commander.
	How is that?
	I'm not sure.
	No, you guys, I will explain on the air about the true nature of general officers.
	Okay, but I'll keep my good stuff.
	I don't want to do a show before the show.
	Exactly, man.
	Don't give away the gold to these rumble guys.
	By the way, somebody just texted me and said, tell Liz we need another real war.
	You know, Ace used to say, this was years ago, he thought it would be a good idea to like, go to war in Syria and trap all the millennials.
	And send them over there, and that's like a win-win.
	Actually, you know, oh stand by America oh stand by America first Magnificent!
	We're back!
	Back on America First!
	I am guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	We're continuing our conversation with my friend and the senior news editor of America Greatness, Liz Scheldt.
	Liz, I just got a text from one of our myriad listeners out there, a former member of the United States Navy, a graduate of the Naval Academy.
	He said, tell us we need another real war!
	What do you think of our woke military?
	Embarrassing.
	Embarrassing.
	Somebody did this great meme on Twitter where they played the recruitment ad for Russia, the recruitment ad for Chinese military, and then, like, the girl with two moms, or that cartoon, and she's like, I have two moms, and I'm just like, I don't care about that.
	My name's Ashley, and I've got a lot of feelings, and I found a place to express them.
	It's the Army!
	I am a retired colonel.
	I was an infantry officer, but early on in my career I did other things while I was in Desert Storm.
	I ran a heavily armed car wash, so I'm not saying I'm as much of a fighter as Dick Blumenthal, the hero of Khe Sanh.
	What the hell?
	These guys are going to lose the next war with China because we are an essentially unserious military right now.
	It's really a joke.
	And the fact that they're cleaning it out.
	I don't know what's going on in the military.
	They just like throwing people out when they don't pass the purity test.
	I'm not sure.
	But it's really scary because what kind of people are going to want to sign up?
	Well, exactly, Liz Sheldon.
	Look, the demographic that wins our wars are primarily a suburban officer corps of middle-class guys who have gone to college and then they want to go lead soldiers, and then soldiers who primarily come from rural and suburban areas.
	It is not a bunch of people from Santa Monica and downtown Manhattan You know, who are saying, well, it's either Hamptons or Fort Benning.
	Huh.
	That just doesn't happen.
	And if you drive those people out, who the hell do you have left to protect you?
	Because you sure as hell can't protect yourself.
	Maybe they're armed with Robin D'Angelo's White Fragility.
	Oh, yeah.
	Maybe that's what they're packing.
	Right?
	Well, you know, my favorite thing about Millie, this general, and I believe he was like commander of Delta Force at one time or something.
	And I've heard people go, he was a great battalion commander.
	How?
	How is this guy?
	I mean, Delta Force is elite.
	That's hard.
	You know what?
	General, look, if you want to succeed, you do what the boss says.
	And he does nothing but what the boss says.
	Nothing but.
	And he comes out, he goes, he's like, Well, we got this.
	I read Lenin and Mao!
	Well, do you teach them to your soldiers?
	Because that's what you're doing with Kendi!
	Anyway, this is America First.
	I am Kurt Schlichter.
	I want to thank Liz Sheld of American Greatness.
	And I want you to stick around because we have so much more coming up.
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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	On what?
	Which?
	From Kamala's office.
	The Politico piece.
	Stranger, why are they running that?
	That's what I want to know.
	The Politico.
	Yeah.
	Ah!
	I just heard he was not head of Delta Force.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, you know what really bothered me about Millie?
	I didn't even know this until recently.
	I listened to more of his testimony before Congress.
	And, you know, he primarily defended CRT, even though he supposedly didn't know what he is.
	He also repeated the lie about the three-fifths compromise.
	Oh, yeah.
	Where they all say, oh, three-fifths compromise said that black people were considered three-fifths of a person.
	It's like, no, that's really not what it was.
	God, he's just stupid.
	But like, this is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs!
	And I'm like, wait, what?
	Like, all right.
	That's, they're really carrying the lie all the way, I guess.
	Yep.
	I'm not sure who's worse between him and Austin.
	and Austin is kind of terrifying, honestly.
	And you have surpassed your previous Rumble record, Colonel K.
	We now have 2,200 people watching.
	Wow!
	Thank you guys so much.
	Alright, he's not answering.
	Kurt, did you hear that?
	I'm sorry, what?
	Malice isn't answering.
	Is this a... am I cursed today?
	We're getting punked.
	Just going straight to voicemail.
	Do you want to text him?
	Yeah, I'll text him.
	Fifty seconds.
	Ready to come on?
	Question mark.
	SliverPix in the rumble chat says, President accounted for, Colonel K. Hoorah!
	Okay.
	Excellent.
	Oh, he says yes.
	Call again.
	Alright.
	30 seconds.
	Might have to just go straight on air.
	20 seconds.
	Standing by.
	Stand by.
	I'll whisper in your ear, okay?
	Alright.
	When we have him confirmed online.
	This is AmericaFed.
	This is AmericaFed. .
	Hey folks, we are back, back on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I am Kurt Schlichter and I'm going to be joined by Michael Malice in just a moment.
	If I can ever figure this damn thing out.
	But in any case, we were talking about General Milley.
	You remember General Milley.
	He's the guy who went over there to Capitol Hill and basically humiliated himself in front of the entire United States.
	But more importantly, in front of our enemies.
	Putin's got to be laughing.
	Xi's got to be laughing.
	Whoever the hell's in charge over in Iran has to be laughing.
	Because this guy is a train wreck.
	Now, I said he was head of Delta Force.
	It turns out all my military guys are going, no he wasn't in Delta Force.
	He was just in Fifth Group.
	Fifth Group.
	That means Special Force.
	He was a Green Beret.
	And a lot of people are thinking, how can a Green Beret It's supposed to be totally badass.
	Become this.
	I don't know.
	It's anarchy, folks.
	That's the problem.
	Everything's falling apart.
	And speaking of anarchy, I've got a really special guest here.
	A guy who managed to get himself with his latest book on anarchism, down to like number three on all of Amazon, Michael Malice.
	How are you doing, man?
	Thank you, Michael Malus!
	I love doing that.
	You call yourself an anarchist.
	You have a book.
	Tell us about your book real quick.
	Sure, the book's The Anarchist Handbook, and I think, as you can go to anarchisthandbook.com, I think as more and more people, especially on the right, have come to understand that the Republican Party has absolutely no interest in looking out for their values and their rights, That people are looking for alternative answers and in my view and in the view of increasing many anarchism which is a stateless society is that alternative.
	Well, you know, Michael, we've hung out, and look, life around you is not complete chaos.
	I mean, you're not running around, you're not throwing bombs, you're not setting fires, you know, you're not sacrificing children to your hideous demon god, at least not when we're hanging out.
	What is anarchism, as opposed to just, like, being a normal person?
	Well, I don't know about normal.
	Neither you nor I are normal, or else why would people want to talk to us, I think.
	But anarchism is a voluntary society where the concept of unchosen authority is regarded as a fallacy.
	And let me give you one example about chaos.
	You're an attorney.
	There's an essay in this book called The Myth of Objective Law by John Hasnas, and every attorney I've ever spoken to, despite the claim that the law is objective and they go by the book, will tell you, and please correct me if I'm wrong, Kurt, that a lot of times you have no idea how the judge is going to rule.
	There's so many different ways you can go.
	At the very least, you know, you're out a lot of money in terms of legal fees, a lot of time, and headaches.
	Whereas if things are judged privately, let's suppose I have a dispute with Macy's, or I have a dispute with eBay, sometimes I don't get what I want, they're not going to take back that sweater, but at the very least I'm going to have a conclusion to my disagreement very quickly and cheaply and efficiently.
	So that's one example where any system which is private-voluntary relationships is far superior to even the miniaturist state.
	Well, Michael Malice, actually, that hits home for me, because I was talking to a client on my drive through Los Angeles over to the Seb Gorka Studio Annex, and I said, look, we're right on the law.
	The law goes our way.
	We should win, but you know we might not, because the judge Right, and that is a great example of how the law forces chaos.
	Another example are things like when we saw the looting last year.
	to people because it happens and it happens much more than regular people think.
	Right.
	And that is a great example of how the law forces chaos.
	Another example are things like when we saw the looting last year.
	Now, you would think at the very basis of any kind of people.
	peaceful legal system or any kind of civilized society, you have a right to defend your person and your property against aggressors.
	This is one-on-one type stuff.
	Yet we saw in 2020 that the people who were destroying property were championed and had no consequences, whereas many of those who took it upon themselves to defy the government police monopoly and do something about it, they are the ones who we made examples of.
	Well, that's true.
	Now, why do, and I think I know the answer, why would the powers that be enforce a system like this?
	Well, I mean, negative results left and right.
	Yeah, I think people are coming to understand that, uh, Despite their antics in front of the camera, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer and Kevin McCarthy have a lot more in common with each other than they do with the population.
	And we're seeing over and over, sure, they fight in front of the cameras and they scream and whatever, but as soon as those cameras are gone, they're fist-bumping each other and having a swell all the time.
	So the fact that we have more and more cameras, the fact that we see more how these people behave, the fact that we see them on Twitter and realize these are not some kind of elite that should be respected, but rather people who should be condemned and made to fear the population as the founding fathers would have wanted, I think the healthier America is going to become.
	Well, Michael Malice, I think you bring up a great point.
	In fact, you always bring up great points.
	I don't agree with everything you say, but gosh, I don't have to, nor you with me.
	Though we do agree on the value of Armenian chicken here in Los Angeles.
	Oh yes, that was the last meal I had before I flew back here to this hellhole that is New York City.
	Heck-hole, excuse me.
	Heck-hole.
	A lot of people In the past, you know, rejected anarchism because they had faith in the system.
	The explosion of new media and the ability to record it.
	I mean, I've got a broadcast level camera here in my phone.
	I think that's changed things, dramatically.
	Oh, absolutely.
	And there's even another example of how technology liberates people.
	You and I are dinosaurs.
	We're old enough to remember the Fairness Doctrine.
	And what you would have on television, you'd have a conservative point of view, and you'd have a liberal point of view, but the liberal would be someone who's hardcore left, and the conservative point of view would be William F. Buckley.
	Now, we can imagine this happens right now on CNN or MSNBC.
	For the liberals, you'll have, you know, AOC.
	And for the Republicans, you have Bill Kristol.
	So the premise for the viewer is that this is the range of acceptable opinions.
	Thanks to technology and social media and talk radio, this happened in the early 80s.
	People came to realize, wait a minute, these are not the limits of what choices are allowed to me as an American.
	I'm free to choose to believe what I want.
	And increasingly, people resent the fact that they're being forced to be boxed into this false alternative between two people who are at the very least contemptible human beings.
	Well, Michael Miles, let me let me ask you something.
	Look, a lot of conservatives are by nature conservative and they look at the idea of anarchism and they like some of what they say.
	It's like libertarianism, right?
	They kind of have a little dalliance with it, but they're not willing to commit.
	Is there a way not to go full anarchist?
	Because I think that may be a bridge too far for a lot of folks, a bridge built not by the government, but by people coming together for their own common interest.
	And is there a way to put some anarchist elements into conservatism?
	Can we make a hybrid?
	Sure.
	There's an essay in this book, which was written, I think, in 1912 by Voltairine de Cleyre.
	She died in her early 40s, I believe, a century ago.
	And it's called Anarchism in American Tradition.
	And she points out that the anarchist principles are basically the founding principles of self-responsibility, of regarding the state with skepticism at the very least, of having things like militias instead of a standing army.
	of expecting people to arm themselves and to look out for their neighbors instead of having a government monopoly on policing.
	What I'm very surprised about, and I saw some of your tweets on this as well, and very gladdened by, is to what extent conservatives have come to realize in the last year that the police are the ones who are enforcing every single edict that Gretchen Whitmer, Governor Cuomo, Gavin Newsom are putting forward.
	And this concept of back the blue, when the blue are the ones who are going into cities and making people disarmed and vulnerable to predation by mobs and criminals, that sea change is something I am ecstatic to see.
	Well, you know, we want to support police officers when they rescue a kid from a kidnapper, but on the other hand, when they start hassling a single mom who took their kid to the playground and doesn't wrap a diaper around their face, that's a whole different story.
	Now, we've only got about 30 seconds left.
	For people who are saying that anarchism is scary because it sounds like, you know, anarchy, how do people How do people get a sense of safety in an anarchist environment?
	Doesn't it mean they have to work harder and take personal responsibility?
	It means get a gun and do not rely on the government, which hates and despises you, for your protection.
	I think that one sentence will answer that.
	I don't think it's too much to say that I love you deeply, and that I can't wait to share Armenian chicken with you next time you're out here in Los Angeles.
	Ladies and gentlemen, this is America First with Dr. Seb Gorka, except I'm Kurt Schlichter, and we're going to be right back with Tom Sauer.
	Hey, I thought you were fine.
	I'm sorry.
	Clear?
	Yeah, that was fun.
	That was interesting.
	He's a very smart guy.
	Tom Sauer.
	Carpenter group.
	Tom Sauer's up next.
	Yep.
	So, uh...
	That number that you had, I went back to your last one to try and grab it.
	But you had that number before.
	So change that one.
	I'm sitting there trying to talk about Millie again off my phone, and I kept calling him instead of having it copy.
	So in C, so not here, we're doing Mr. Sour, and then American Financing, and then Job Creators Network is going to be in 3C.
	Yeah, we'll do both of them.
	Which one do you want me to do in 2C?
	American Financing.
	Okay, I got it.
	And we'll do Job Creators Network in 3C.
	Hey, this is Jeff with Kurt Schlichter.
	How are you?
	This is Jeff with Kurt Schlichter.
	Good.
	Alright, just remember if he talks to you in the break, we're live on Rumble during the break, sorry.
	If he talks to you.
	If he lowers himself to speak to mere mortals.
	Yeah.
	Hey buddy, how are ya?
	Yo player, how's it hangin'?
	I'm doing really well, doing really well.
	So I know that we're not on the air yet, but I guess we're still on Rumble, right?
	I think I tweeted as a reply, but I know I've made it when I'm following Michael Malice in a lineup.
	That was pretty cool.
	I was like, wow.
	Obviously you know I'm a big Malice superfan.
	Yeah, Malice is cool.
	Yeah, I'm thinking maybe there's, I think he's on to something.
	You know?
	Yeah, I'd be like, huh, tell me more about this lack of any government at all.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	But, um, yeah, I did a little bit of homework actually too.
	I know you want to talk about, uh, and you know, we'll save a single one on the air, but did a little bit of homework on what happened in LA last night.
	And a little interesting that, um, I think it's a little more cut and dry than people might think it is.
	Okay.
	We'll get into that one.
	I'm very interested to see why they blew up a neighborhood!
	Well, yeah.
	It's, uh, I think it's pretty straightforward.
	So, uh, yeah, I can get into it.
	But it's basically for the contain- I'm pretty sure, from whatever they're bringing this, it's, uh, the containment vessel, the big cylinder they put it in, the big sphere, I'm pretty sure that failed.
	That's the issue.
	Yeah, it seemed to have failed.
	Yeah, well, I used to work for their competitor.
	What I worked was a defense contractor.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, uh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And also, I mean, it's like, you know, they don't know what's in there, obviously.
	So like, you always have to assume the worst.
	And like the largest PCV out there, which looks like the one they had made by Nabco out of Maryland, you know, that thing's only rated to take like about 20 pounds of TNT equivalent.
	Like they know better not to put that much in there.
	So, um, then you have, I don't want to spoil it for the viewers.
	20 seconds.
	Coming in in 20 seconds.
	20 seconds. Coming in in 20 seconds.
	Stand by. Standing by. Standing by.
	Kurt Schlichter.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	We are on America First.
	We've got thousands of people listening to us or watching us on Rumble and YouTube.
	You should do that.
	You get Schlichter vision.
	Right?
	I'm wearing a... I got a jacket on.
	I don't have a tie.
	I got a haircut.
	I'm looking fresh.
	I'm looking perky.
	You want to be a part of this.
	You want to share the magic.
	Speaking of sharing the magic, I've got somebody on because of something I saw yesterday.
	If you're living here in Los Angeles, you probably heard about it.
	You probably heard it.
	If you're on Twitter, the LAPD decided they were going to do a controlled explosion Yesterday, and it was out of control, so I thought, who do I know who's a friend of mine, a client of my law firm, and a veteran of the Navy, and an explosive ordinance demolition expert?
	And I thought, well gosh, we gotta have Tom Sauer.
	Tom, how are ya?
	Hey, Kurt, good to be on again.
	Gotta say, it's quite the honor to follow behind Michael Malice.
	It was quite the honor to have him.
	He is such a mischievous little elf, isn't he?
	He is, but I'll tell you, I tune in all the stuff, I watch all his material, great books, and I find myself The anarchy direction?
	The anarchy direction.
	Well, luckily you have a great lawyer for when you try that anarchy stuff out and you get arrested.
	I do!
	Absolutely.
	That's an amazing idea.
	But, look, what the heck happened yesterday?
	It looked like they were trying to do some sort of controlled demolition with the LAPD, and that didn't look too controlled to me.
	Yeah.
	Um, well, basically what happened, it seems like, you know, I read about it and it looked at like, okay, so it looks like they did everything right.
	All the procedures are like that.
	And you know, look, a lot of people might want to trash talk LAPD bomb squad, but they're very experienced.
	They get a lot of calls quite often.
	These guys aren't dummies, right?
	And, you know, most likely from what I read, and this is my disclaimer, like, I didn't speak to anybody on the inside or anything like that, and just kind of as an outside observer with the knowledge and background I know.
	Well, you spent a lot of time in the United States Navy blowing stuff up.
	A little bit.
	I spent a good minute doing that, right.
	And so, and it's a lot of fun.
	I absolutely loved every minute of it.
	And I'll tell you what, though.
	I ran a heavily armed car wash, okay?
	You got to blow stuff up.
	Well, my time in Navy O.D.
	was mostly beer and dirty jokes.
	But I mean, it was great.
	But we had a lot of fun and we learned a lot of stuff.
	It was good.
	But I would say this much is that what it looks like is that the TCV, the total containment vessel, that big giant chamber you saw explode.
	Yeah, it's a big round ball.
	Yeah, it is.
	It looks like that thing most likely failed.
	Right.
	Either whether it's an engineering flaw.
	I don't know if it was a design flaw, but some type of engineering flaw.
	Most likely, that's what folks are saying.
	It looks like they're right.
	The largest one in production by anybody out there only is rated to withstand about 20 pounds, 8.8 kilo, so about 20 pounds of TNT equivalent.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	20 pounds of TNT will blow apart a big steel sphere.
	Well, that's the thing is it's supposed to contain that.
	Now, I'm sure that LAPD Bomb Squad had the wherewithal to know you don't put more than you need in there.
	In fact, they probably had a lot less in there.
	Were they trying to detonate it?
	They didn't know exactly what it was.
	Were they trying to detonate it, or just trying to safeguard it?
	Yeah, that was supposed to be a controlled detonation, so that's one of the things that they're meant for.
	You put it in there, sometimes you can transport it, but in this case, you can see they even had a command wire went out, they called out fire in the hole, and it was meant to be a controlled detonation.
	So, then, you know, from there, you know, obviously it failed, and what it's meant to do is contain that detonation, and then there's vents that release all that gas, that pressurized gas, in a controlled manner, right?
	So then what happens is obviously it looks like that thing failed.
	And it failed badly.
	And then also on top of that, it makes it worse because that detonation wasn't supposed to be that big.
	Because if you remember the Boston bombers, right?
	Remember the Boston Marathon bombers?
	They put those bombs into pressure cookers, right?
	Field containers.
	It's like a pipe bomb.
	So you don't need, you see, you have a little bit of bang in there, or a moderate amount of bang.
	And then once that chemical explosion occurs, well, then when you bust through that actual containment vessel, then you have the mechanical explosion, right?
	Where it's just like, you know, if you throw Mentos into a soda bottle, screw the lid over, right?
	All that gas is going to expand.
	Eventually that thing's going to make a big old pop, right?
	Well, it happened on a massive scale.
	So, or same thing like with pipe bombs.
	The reason why, I mean, it's just one giant pipe bomb.
	So it actually was worse.
	So had they detonated that, like, if it was just in a cardboard box, it would have made a good bang.
	But it wouldn't have been nearly as bad because it was in that containment vessel that was supposed to contain it, right?
	And it failed for whatever reason, and now we have what we have.
	And then they found, like, the hatch to the containment vessel, like, two blocks away.
	Nice.
	In, like, somebody's backyard, which that thing weighs hundreds of pounds, too.
	That's insane.
	So, I mean, honestly, everyone is lucky that nobody died.
	It looks like we had, like, two folks who were really seriously injured.
	I got a number of police and firefighters who were injured, a couple civilians, and an ATF agent.
	I mean, as awful as it is, people are lucky.
	You look at that thing and you're like, what the hell?
	What was the explosive?
	We don't know.
	The good thing is, they said they took x-rays.
	You know, the guy had a ton of fireworks.
	He had like 3,000 to 5,000 pounds of fireworks, right?
	Wait a minute, hold on.
	Time out.
	Some dude in a suburban L.A.
	neighborhood had a couple tons of fireworks just chillin' in his garage?
	In his backyard.
	Yeah.
	Oh, that sounds smart.
	And it was all palletized and packaged.
	That's the thing.
	It was palletized and packaged.
	So all that stuff that was deemed safe to move, because it was all in a sealed container, looked fine.
	They just bought in pork trucks.
	They hauled it away.
	But there are other devices they found that would seem to be improvised.
	And then, obviously, they said, OK, well, this stuff isn't safe to transport.
	We need to put it in the TCB and detonate it on our own.
	So they went to go do that.
	And obviously, there was a catastrophic failure.
	But, you know, they know not to put The, um, you know, not to put more than 20 pounds in there, and you always assume the worst.
	Even if you don't know exactly what that explosive is, right?
	You always assume, okay, this is probably pretty bad.
	If you don't know exactly what it is, you always assume worst case.
	Put it in there, and obviously that thing fails.
	I think that makes good sense.
	Tom Sauer, of course, you're a Navy Academy graduate.
	Um, we only got about a minute or two left.
	What do you think?
	And you've been out for a little while, like I have.
	What do you think of the new Navy?
	Well, I got plenty of friends who are still in, who are all, most of them are at the 05, so like Lieutenant Colonel or Commander Navy level.
	And I talked to a lot of those folks.
	I got friends who are, you know, 06 and Colonel or Captain, and I talked to a couple of Generals and Admirals now and again.
	And I would say that generally speaking, when you hear about all this woke Navy stuff I've been doing is, you know, we had similar stuff when I was in.
	It wasn't quite as extreme though.
	And look, we all just kind of know, all right, you know, when it comes to rank and file, folks are actually like operating, doing the deed.
	We kind of just smile and nod.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	All right, cool.
	Now we all go back to work.
	Right?
	Just like any other HR presentation, you know, you got to go through mandatory training.
	All the employees got to go sit here and listen to something, whether it's on the safety training or sexual harassment or diversity, whatever, whatever.
	Right?
	Just, it's like any of the large corporations.
	I mean, not everyone, of course, but I'm sure there are more than a few folks who behind closed doors, you know, they're going to have their own conversation.
	That's generally what I get.
	And I think you mentioned before, you talk to folks who are still in, and I think you're getting generally the same thing.
	I'm getting a lot of similar stuff, Tom.
	I'm getting a lot of similar stuff, Tom Sauer.
	Thank you very much for your explosive revelations here on America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I will be right back.
	Clear?
	Alright.
	Are you still there?
	Yeah, I'm still here, man.
	Thanks a lot.
	Hey, did that go okay?
	Did that work?
	Yeah, that's fine.
	That was cool.
	Cool, man.
	I appreciate it.
	People are like, I don't know what happened.
	You told them.
	That's good stuff.
	Yeah, I mean, this is pretty simple.
	You know, on the LAPD thing, it's just like, most likely, I'm almost certain.
	I mean, it's just like, it's pretty obvious.
	They did everything right.
	It looks like, you know, there's either an engineering flaw or a manufacturing flaw.
	Hey, maybe they didn't secure it properly.
	Who knows?
	But yeah, that's pretty much what happened, man.
	And yeah, all the woke Navy stuff and all the woke military.
	People just kind of smiling and nodding.
	Okay, we'll just go along with it.
	Cool.
	Can we go back to work now?
	Is that it?
	I hope so.
	That is.
	You know, just like any other big corporation, what are you going to do?
	You got a job to worry about.
	You know, like you got a pension and a steady paycheck on the line and You know, it's like, is this really worth dying on, folks?
	A lot of guys are like that.
	And the ones who are able to speak out, really, the ones who really get publicly speak out are folks, you know, like you and me, where it's like we're, you know, financially independent.
	And you don't really have to worry about somebody, you know, taking away your job and lose all your revenue.
	I mean, that's just, it's just it, you know?
	So it sucks, but that's the game.
	Yeah.
	Hate the game, not the player.
	Okay, man.
	Good to talk to you.
	All right.
	Hey, good talking to you.
	Talk to you, buddy.
	Okay, alrighty.
	You wanted to do American Financing here.
	Two and a half minutes until the next segment.
	Alright, I'll start off with America Financing and then I will figure out something to talk about.
	You want me to open the phone lines?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, let's open those phone lines for five minutes.
	2,500 Rumblefish watching right now.
	Oh, boom!
	Hey, Rumble guys.
	Hope I'm entertaining.
	Are you not entertained?
	I still need to see that movie at some point.
	Really?
	What?
	It's on, like, every five minutes, and you can't not watch it.
	It's never on Netflix.
	Oh, but don't watch it.
	It's on, like, HBO.
	I don't subscribe to anything.
	I got like 600 cable channels.
	I just flip through them looking for something.
	I don't do it late at night because I'm bound to, you know, freaking cross a Cinemax.
	It'll be like three chicks and an ugly dude who looks like a hedgehog making it in a hot tub and I don't want to traumatize my kids or my dog.
	Oh man.
	Yeah, so sometimes Netflix has really good stuff, and then there's just like nothing on there, and I'm like, man.
	Oh, there's nothing on there.
	You know, they'll never make my books into movies.
	That's unfortunate.
	I'm still surprised Netflix did a movie of Hillbillyology.
	Like, I cannot believe they actually agreed to do that.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, that kind of sucks.
	By the way, Commander Salamander, who is one of my favorite people on Twitter, uh, Navy guy, just said, uh, uh, WATCHING YOU WITH MALICE AND SOUR SUPERB LINEUP!
	Oh, it only gets better, folks.
	There's more to come.
	Even more.
	More to come.
	I would use it, I would do it more, the number two and then come.
	So it kind of evokes those like uh 90s movies.
	Yeah, too fast too furious sort of situation.
	Yeah exactly.
	By the way I saw a part of uh uh break into electric boogaloo the other night.
	I heard you made that reference.
	Oh man.
	That's a classic.
	I was like, oh!
	I remember when people dressed like that non-ironically.
	It's fantastic.
	Oh, the 80s, man.
	Wish I could have experienced it.
	Dude, the 80s were fun.
	And the music was so much better than this garbage.
	All right, 10 seconds.
	Standby.
	Standby.
	We can talk about Allison Mack and NXIVM.
	News and talk radio is still really popular, even in the Internet age.
	What you are about to hear them say is mind-boggling.
	Here's looking at you, Snowflake.
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	I am guest host Kurt Schlichter, senior columnist at townhall.com, noted Los Angeles trial lawyer, a retired United States Army colonel, and the author of the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative novels.
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	So, a lot of things happening.
	But, you know, one of the things that happened, they're finally cleaning up the NXIVM mess.
	You remember that?
	That crazy cult?
	with Keith Raniere, and it's been the subject of like six different miniseries.
	Allison Mack, who was a moderately attractive kind of like, not the like lead hot girl, but kind of like friend of the hot girl on some show, she's going to federal prison for three years, right?
	Because she was involved in this, and she got human trafficking, abuse, Have you guys seen this Keith Raniere guy?
	I mean, have you seen this dude?
	Okay, he's a mutant.
	He's a mutant.
	I mean, he's a real weirdo.
	He's not a potato.
	I mean, like Brian Stelter.
	He's evocative of a potato, I guess.
	But, I mean, look, this guy is not handsome.
	And yet, he had all these women, including, like, movie starlets.
	She's not the only one.
	who surrounded him in this bizarre kind of cult thing and they're branding each other and just it's all it's all bizarre but you know who these people are not do you know who the people who fell for this are not members of our club okay not conservatives
	These guys were like Hillary-supporting liberals.
	They were like, yeah, I let this guy brand me, and starve me, and abuse me, but you know what?
	You know who really gets me?
	That Trump guy.
	He's a disaster.
	No.
	I have said it for a long time.
	Liberal, affluent women are the worst people in America.
	The ones who go to Trader Joe's, they buy the Screwtop Chardonnay.
	They're the ones who complain that you're not wearing a mask in Trader Joe's when you're trying to find, you know, a nice Bordeaux or something.
	Because, you know, everyone's wanting to find something good.
	Not Screwtop.
	The Karen cast.
	These are the women who all said, well, I think I'm going to support Joe Biden.
	I mean, he's going to raise taxes and everything.
	He's going to let criminals run rampant in the street.
	He's going to make America power circle the drain and disappear from the world stage.
	But you know what?
	No mean tweets.
	No mean tweets.
	Well, the thing is, They're the ones who are suckers.
	They're the ones who fell for it.
	They are the ones who ended up in this bizarre, creepy cult with this dude who's got, like, the mannerisms of Jeffrey Toobin and the looks of Brian Stelter.
	And these people want to determine the future of our country, folks.
	We have to take our country back from these horrible people.
	And we're gonna do it.
	By putting America first.
	Stick around!
	We got Ned Ryan coming up.
	Claire? - I thought that was okay.
	Nexium.
	Nexium.
	Is that how you pronounce it?
	Nexium.
	Whatever.
	Isn't Nexium that heartburn medication also?
	Yes.
	I think it's like Lexus.
	Is it a car or is it a stripper?
	Who knows?
	It can be 50-50, honestly.
	Maybe I should do a segment on it.
	Folks, what's the greatest stripper song of all time?
	Is it Sherry Pie?
	Or is it Pour Some Sugar On Me?
	The two.
	Bingo.
	Batten in the chat says, only wine with corks is real wine.
	In reference to your comment about Screwtopical.
	I don't know.
	I feel like that's discounting wine in bags.
	That's all I'm going to say.
	Wine in bags is actually not bad.
	Yes, it is.
	It's terrible, Eric.
	Interrogate your vino privilege.
	You never slapped the wine bag at a college party, Chad?
	Yeah, but that was at a college party.
	That's not how you drink alcohol, you know?
	Like, that doesn't mean I'm gonna buy it.
	Well, it's not how I drink alcohol.
	There's lots of ways to drink alcohol, my friend Shadrach.
	I'm for all of them.
	I'm well-acquainted.
	I'm well-acquainted.
	You know, Dr. Gorka, like so many other conservatives, does not drink.
	Neither does the president.
	He doesn't drink.
	Jack Posobiec does not drink.
	Tom Sauer does not drink.
	And they're not jerks about it.
	They're not like, I don't drink, and you shouldn't either.
	They're like, oh, cool, do what you want.
	I'm doing what I want.
	It's like, I respect that.
	I think Biden, actually, is also a tutotaler from what I've heard.
	Well, then what's his excuse?
	If he drinks any alcohol, it'll make it worse.
	Oh, my gosh.
	It'll interfere with his medicine.
	Oh, goodness.
	Yeah.
	Ned's on the line.
	Hey, Ned, how's it going, playa?
	Hey, you know, keeping it real, keeping it back to you.
	Let's pimp that book.
	Let's put it out on the street and make it bring it you money.
	Make it rain, baby.
	Make it rain!
	Now, we need your opinion.
	We were just, and of course this is all on Rumble, so somebody at Media Matters is definitely watching.
	The greatest stripper song of all time.
	Cherry pie or pour some sugar on me?
	You could ask that of a... Do I have to actually answer that question?
	I'd say it's really kind of rhetorical, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	I met my gym yesterday.
	My trainer, whose name is also Kurt, shouting slogans at me.
	Burn the, burn the, burn the heat!
	Or some stuff like that.
	And then in the music, it's like, it was cherry pie, and it goes, pour some sugar on me.
	I'm like, what am I at the Kit Kat club?
	Do I gotta do a spin around a pole?
	What the hell?
	I'm here to lift weights, buddy!
	Yeah, it's clear you live in California.
	Just saying.
	I do live in California.
	It's better to rap.
	One minute.
	Well, we don't use that back here.
	In fact, real men have their own home gyms.
	I'm just saying.
	You know?
	Yeah, like I've got room.
	My yard consists of a patio.
	Yeah.
	That might be a problem.
	How long have you been there?
	Yeah.
	Dang.
	Wow.
	I grew up in Santa Barbara, right?
	Yeah, I was born there.
	Goleta, actually.
	How long have I lived here?
	Yeah.
	30 years almost.
	30 years this year.
	Wow.
	I grew up in Santa Barbara, right?
	Really?
	I love Santa Barbara.
	Yeah, I was born there.
	Oh, my God.
	Galita, actually.
	Dennis Miller lives up there.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	He's my hero.
	I don't know, but cool.
	I like him.
	10 seconds.
	Stand by.
	goodbye on the side of the u.s.
	Constitution, America first.
	We are back here on America First.
	I am Kurt Schlichter, SeniorColumnistTownHall.com, sitting in for Dr. Seb Gorka.
	Hey!
	I'm an author.
	I write the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative novels.
	I got the sixth one, called The Split, will be coming out in July, this month, within just a few weeks.
	And part of it's set in Boston.
	And part of it revolves around Bunker Hill.
	And where did I... and I didn't do this on purpose, but my friend, Ned Ryan, who is joining me right here and now, just wrote a book about the Battle of Bunker Hill called The Adversaries.
	Ned, how's the book doing?
	It's doing... it got up to number 83 on all the books on Amazon.
	It was number one in some categories.
	Wow!
	And with Top 20 in historical fiction, obviously we're getting ready for my next big surge.
	This is part of it.
	Tucker, which will be great.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on.
	You stomped the lead.
	What about Tucker?
	You're going on with Tucker?
	Yeah, no, he's doing a Fox Nation special.
	We were supposed to talk about five or six different things.
	We spent 50 minutes talking about the book.
	So I think that's dropping at 4 p.m.
	tomorrow and then he'll mention it on his Fox News show tomorrow night.
	So, yeah, I'm excited.
	I mean, it's a story that we need to know more about, right?
	I mean, it's one of those things where we need to understand the last nine or ten months before Bunker Hill, why did Englishmen start shooting at each other and what was really the issue.
	And one of the reasons I wrote it, obviously, I'm a huge fan of Dr. Joseph Warren, who was a singular man who's not as well-known today, but we should know more about him.
	Well, tell us a little.
	Tell us a little about Dr. Warren, because I didn't know that much about him either, and he's a big character here, and you're right, this is a story of how a country breaks apart.
	I mean, I've been writing it in kind of a futuristic sense in my novels, you're writing it about the past, but let's face it, Ned, we're both commenting on the situation today.
	Why is this so important, and what's Dr. Warren got to teach us?
	So a couple of things.
	First of all, Dr. Joseph Warren was a protege of Sam Adams, and then really become the leader in the colony of Massachusetts and Boston those last 9 or 10 months, become President of the National Congress, Major General of the New Army.
	You know, on the day of Bunker Hill, he literally had to borrow a horse and a musket.
	Because he's intent on fighting on Bunker Hill, and when he gets there he informs Israel Putnam, put me where the fighting's heaviest.
	Putnam sends him down the hill, he fights in the Redoubt with William Prescott, and then tells Prescott, put me where the fighting's heaviest.
	This man actually believed in something so strongly that he was willing to fight for it.
	But Kirk, you go back and you look at the history.
	These were English.
	85% of Massachusetts at the time was direct English lineage.
	Wasn't Scottish, wasn't Irish.
	And all of a sudden, Englishmen start looking at each other and realizing they don't agree on some fundamentals, like rule of law.
	Where do our rights come from?
	Who makes the laws?
	Who governs?
	And it kind of informs us today that the English colonized the shores of America, decided you're not going to force a flag.
	They actually believed they had transcendent rights.
	And no earthly power had given them those rights.
	No earthly power had actually believed they had any transcendent rights, not only the right to property and speech, but also a right to conscience, a right to govern themselves.
	And Parliament and the King's ministers said, we don't think so.
	We think these are more a series of suggestions, and you will submit, and if you don't, we'll send more troops and warships.
	You know, that has some resonation today.
	I mean, obviously, we are not at the point of fixing bayonets, and God willing, we'll never get there.
	I don't think we ever will get there.
	But the fact is, We're all Americans, and yet there are a lot of Americans who hate other Americans.
	You get on Twitter, and it's not just, I disagree with you, I have a different vision.
	It's, you're evil and you need to be suppressed, silenced, and disenfranchised.
	Which is in defiance of how we were founded.
	And Kurt, I'm very honest about who these men were.
	Imperfect human beings in an imperfect world.
	But the founders of the Free American Republic believed that we should have liberty first, last, and forever.
	And it's something that they were willing to fight for, because they believe so strongly in it.
	Have we always been true to it?
	No, of course not.
	Have we always been despised to it?
	Absolutely.
	And that's one of the things I think we've lost sight of, because there's some people that truly believe, first of all, our rights don't come from God, they come from the government, and therefore, if they don't like what your ideas are, your speech, we don't have to listen to it.
	In fact, you should shut up.
	And if you don't shut up, we're going to with conscience so that you actually get a chance to actually, you know, be in line with what we believe, which is, again, inconsistent with how this country was founded.
	Well, Ned, look, I had the chance to read an advance copy of The Adversaries, and I'm here not as, hey, my friend wrote a book.
	Everybody go buy it.
	It's, I really, I mean, this was a moving book that taught me things I didn't know.
	I frankly used some of that new knowledge on my own book, The Split, coming out later this month.
	And I bet yours doesn't have crocodiles.
	Mine has crocodiles.
	And automatic weapons.
	No crocodiles.
	But look, I mean, it's very moving because it starts out, everybody's together, and you can see it breaking apart, and people are making mistakes, evaluating their side.
	Well, if we go take their guns, that'll suppress everything.
	That'll be the end of it.
	And the other side's like, No, that's simply going to pour gasoline on the fire.
	How can we learn from what happened with the British and the colonists to help Americans work together to resolve our differences using the framework of the Constitution rather than extra constitutional frameworks like cancellation, silencing, and sometimes even violence?
	Well, so I know we've got limited time.
	I'll explain it this way.
	Well, I'm holding you over for the next segment, because we've got to talk some politics, too, because you head American majority.
	But go ahead and answer.
	We've got about 30 seconds, I think.
	Agreeing on certain fundamentals, where do our rights come from, and what is the role of government in our lives?
	I mean, government is meant to protect our rights and take none of them away, and we have to have a conversation about You know, the representatives are supposed to be, you know, stewards of the money and power given to them in a government of, by, and for the people.
	So we've got to get back to discussing certain fundamentals, and until we do, we're going to continue to have friction.
	Well, Ned Ryan, I think that is very wise advice.
	I want to keep you over to talk a little about the upcoming election and the rebellion against the noxious poison that is CRT.
	This is KAS, Kurt Andrew Schlichter, sitting in for the great Dr. Seb Gorka on America First.
	Stick around.
	Where? - Yeah.
	Hey Ned, did I pimp it adequately?
	Sounds like we're having some phone line issues.
	Hey, you're cutting out a little.
	we get back to normal.
	Sounds like we're having some kind of cutting out a little.
	Phone line issues.
	Hey, you're cutting out a little.
	Jeff, can you call him back?
	Ned, yeah.
	Yeah, Ned, is it okay if we call you back real quick?
	Just make sure we get a better line?
	Call me back, call me back.
	Yep, sounds good.
	Hi Rumble folks, how are you?
	I'm Kurt Schlichter and I'm here to say this is amazing.
	I love Glendale.
	Glendale, California.
	I have to drive across the entire city to get back to my beachfront pavilion.
	I am super excited about my next three hours in the car.
	Although I did just get a call from one of my attorneys.
	We won a motion just now and we're awarded monies.
	Nice!
	Cash back on the line.
	Hey Ned, let's talk a little about whether Trump runs and whether he should or not and then this abortion of a select committee.
	What do you think?
	The abortion of a select committee.
	Yeah, the select committee to harass tourists who wander January 6th.
	The Redunda that they own.
	Yes, I just followed up that story.
	Is the Beltway Cowgirl, Liz Cheney, going to accept appointment to this Star Chamber?
	Of course she is.
	Of course.
	How bad is she going to lose?
	She's pathetic.
	Please tell me terribly.
	Am I cutting in and out that much?
	No, you're good now.
	One bar, then two bars, then one bar.
	No, she's going to go for it, of course she is, and then she's going to get beaten by 20-25 points in the primary.
	Aren't they going to try and screw around with the elections and do some sort of rank choice nonsense?
	I'm sure they're going to, but I think most of the Republican Party in Wyoming is not going to have it.
	Yeah, I don't see them tolerating it.
	I think I almost guarantee eight of the 10 Republicans that voted for impeachment will be beaten in primaries next year.
	You know, there's two of them that are sitting in Democrat districts, but the other ones are sitting in anywhere from plus three to plus nine to plus 25.
	Hey, you know Cam Edwards, right?
	You know, I know the name.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I gotta give him a call about something.
	He might be a good venue for you.
	I'll call him on the way.
	Okay.
	20 seconds.
	Yeah, man.
	Standing by.
	Sell some books.
	Stand by.
	Yeah, no.
	Thank you.
	american financing We're back on America First!
	I am guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	We're continuing our conversation with the author of The Adversaries, Ned Ryan.
	Hey guys, like I said in the previous segment, this is not a, hey my friend borrowed a book so go get it.
	This is a really good book and it's about important stuff and you should go read it.
	The Adversaries.
	Now Ned is a multi-talented renaissance man of many talents.
	And one of them, in his role in the American majority, is he is a keen observer of American politics.
	I want to ask you about two things.
	First, I want to ask you about President Trump and what he's going to do.
	Second, I want to ask you about the Capitol Hill Tourist Persecution Committee and the complicitness of the Beltway Cowgirl, Liz Cheney.
	Will President Trump run again, and should he?
	So here's what I think is going to happen.
	He's going to look at the midterms as a bellwether, and he's going to make endorsements, and he's going to look at his win percentage, and he's going to look at does he have the clout to actually basically win most of the primaries he endorses in.
	And if he does, I think he leans towards it.
	And quite frankly, I tell people it doesn't really matter what a lot of us think.
	It's up to him.
	And does he decide that he wants to?
	I will say this, Kurt.
	I think the thing that's encouraging, he has put Susie Wiles in a position of real power.
	And I trust Susie to make a lot of good decisions on personnel, which has always been an Achilles heel for Trump.
	Yeah, just a little bit.
	Dr. Gorka being one notable exception.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yes, you are correct.
	Personnel has always been one of Donald Trump's biggest challenges.
	Dr. Gorka accepted, of course.
	That's right.
	And I think that's something that's been cleaned up.
	There's still room for improvement, but I think we're gonna have to wait and see how the midterms go and if they go well.
	Let's see what happens in January of 2023, but I look at it this way, Kurt.
	I am convinced that regardless of what he does, an America First candidate will be our nominee in 2024.
	If it's not Trump, it'll be DeSantis.
	You're not thinking Nikki Haley, huh?
	No, listen, it's in three camps right now.
	It's America First, it's kind of the old school conservative establishment, and it's the number Trumpers.
	Neither of those last two are going to win the nomination in 2024, so I feel content, I feel good that an America First candidate will win the nomination and will have a strong champion for America First, whether it's Trump or DeSantis.
	I don't see anybody else being able to beat them.
	Well, very quickly, we only have about 30 seconds.
	Nancy Pelosi has convened her star chamber, her little kangaroo court, to persecute people taking selfies on the rotunda.
	They're going to make that the big issue for the congressional elections.
	Actually, we've got about 15 seconds.
	You think that's going to fly, Ned Ryan?
	No, I don't.
	And, you know, she said she's going to put Liz Cheney on this January 6th commission.
	Doesn't matter.
	Liz is going to lose by 20-25 points in the primary.
	So knock yourself out, Liz.
	Thank God.
	Ned Ryan, author of The Adversaries.
	Go check it out.
	It's a good book, and it's an important one.
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	Hello, Rumble.
	Okay, we got Julie Kelly coming up.
	2,600, Rumblers.
	How's it going, fam?
	Wow, 2,600.
	You sexy beast.
	Look at you.
	Okay, I take my jacket off if we get to 3,000.
	You pull a Jim Jordan.
	I won't watch.
	All right.
	Alright, I gotta find the picture of the bottle of wine she gave me.
	Alright, I will be right back.
	So all you on the Rumble livestream behave.
	Alright, I just sent a photo of a steak to my friend who's coming over for dinner Saturday.
	Wow.
	And I have a picture of the... Oh my God, my hair's terrible.
	I know you get rumble guys.
	You're going, what's, what's with Kurt?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh my God.
	This is going to be so good.
	It's Wine Talk with Kurt and Julie Kelly.
	Okay.
	All right, that should be one more listener, folks.
	Wow.
	Just doing it one by one.
	Hey Jeff, watch me!
	Okay, viewer, listeners, it's on my phone.
	There you go.
	There's my... Hey, it's Jeff.
	Oh, pals on a work Zoom.
	All right, hang on.
	Just so you know, when he talks to you in the break, we're live on Rumble during the commercials, all right?
	Hang on.
	Hi, Julie.
	Hi, Julie.
	Hi, you ready to talk about the giant abortion that is the judicial system in Washington, D.C.?
	Yes, I am.
	I don't know where to begin, so I'm probably going to begin talking about that wine you gave me, which I'm drinking this weekend.
	Two years ago?
	Two years ago?
	It was a while ago, but I've got it, and it's going this weekend.
	When you get a chance, can you just do Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday this week?
	It's the Chapelet.
	I told my wine friend who's coming over for dinner, hey, here's a picture.
	This is what Julie Kelly gave it to me.
	This is what we're having.
	He's like, that's a nice bottle.
	I was like, yeah, yeah, this is gonna be good.
	We had a, actually, I'm sorry.
	Well, I reverse sear.
	Oh, we need to talk about that on air.
	We'll get to that.
	But look, you've been doing this incredible reporting.
	What finally happened with Viking Man, by the way?
	I didn't see the end of the tweet stream.
	He's still in jail, I assume.
	Chat, I'm not getting her audio.
	This is a low level.
	We can talk about it.
	But he's still in jail.
	They had another detention hearing on him yesterday.
	And Judge Lambert said that he would rule soon.
	I don't know why he didn't rule yesterday.
	But yes, he's been in prison since mid-January.
	Well, you got to teach those uppity citizens their place, I guess.
	Yes, you do.
	It's a freaking abomination.
	I want to talk to you about the leftist PDs, because I think that's a problem.
	I also want to see if there's any kind of challenge being raised about the post and forfeit for everybody else, including the people this week who blocked the White House, which I was informed was an insurrection, except it isn't.
	That's right.
	15 seconds.
	Standing by.
	We can explore whether anyone's brought that up, which I think somebody should.
	Stand by. Stand by.
	Thank you, Dr. Gorka.
	Welcome back to America First.
	I am Kurt Schlichter.
	This is the third and final hour of the journey we're making together.
	You know, it's not the destination.
	It's the journey together.
	God, I can't even do that with a straight face.
	Okay, I've been appalled.
	I'm a lawyer.
	I defended this country.
	I deployed twice, served 27 years.
	I am appalled at the Absolute fiasco that I don't even think fiasco is the right word.
	I can't use the right word and be FCC compliant folks to describe what's happening to the Capitol Hill defendants.
	It's an outrage and you know, we talk a lot about.
	Reporters.
	We talk a lot about journalists not doing their job, but there are journalists who do, and there are conservative ones who do, and no one has done a better job on this outrage than America Greatness's own Julie Kelly.
	Julie, welcome to America First.
	Thanks, Kurt.
	Thanks so much for that compliment.
	I appreciate it.
	Well, before we get too far in, I want to... By weird serendipity, weird kismet, you gave me a Magnum of Chapelet Cabernet Sauvignon a while ago, and just this week I decided I was going to have it with a couple of friends of mine over dinner.
	So I want you to know this outstanding bottle is going to go for a good cause.
	But I don't think there's anything to celebrate as far as what's happening to these people who are caught up in this January 6th thing.
	You've been ahead of the game.
	What's the current status on that for those of us on the outside watching?
	I mean, this is wholly un-American, unconstitutional, in some ways a humanitarian crisis of some of these people, how they've been held in solitary confinement conditions for months on end.
	Let out of their cells for an hour a day, not able to communicate with their family or lawyers, not able to participate in their own defense.
	Um, so it really is a crisis.
	Um, but the scary part is that the Joe Biden's justice department is accelerating this nationwide manhunt.
	They've arrested 17 people this week alone.
	All the way from Florida to Ohio, Texas to California.
	Uh, mostly again, nonviolent offenders, people who will be charged for trespassing, obstructing Congress, et cetera.
	Um, and it's just a travesty what's happening to these people.
	They're losing their jobs.
	Their finances are being bankrupted.
	Their families are being destroyed.
	They're losing, you know, they're, they're at risk of losing everything.
	And this is just so someone like Merrick Garland can brag like he did in the press release last week.
	That they've reached all these benchmarks in the January 6th investigation and arrested at least 500 people over the past now six months.
	And the vast majority of these people, Julie Kelley, first of all, they're not carrying guns.
	You know, it's the least insurrection-y insurrection I've ever heard of.
	And, you know, I was in the Los Angeles riots.
	If you're going to talk insurrection, that would be a real one, and sponsored by Democrat Maxine Waters, who of course never gets blamed from the media for it.
	Yes, he has.
	So his name is Jacob Chansley.
	Everyone knows who he is.
	breaking horns who dared to sit in the, I guess it was the majority leader's seat, or was it the, I think it was, and didn't hurt anybody, didn't destroy anything, didn't break anything, yet he's been in jail for six months.
	What's up?
	Yes, he has.
	So his name is Jacob Chansley.
	Everyone knows who he is, the organic QAnon, whatever you want to call him, shaman.
	You know, he's a performer.
	He's a bit of a clown.
	Um, but he committed no violent act.
	In fact, at American great, as you probably saw, we posted video that shows him communicating with us Capitol police, including a high ranking official who advised him and a group of others how they could protest.
	So he didn't attack a police officer.
	He stole nothing.
	He got a prayer in the Senate chamber.
	Um, and exited, but his life has, of course, like many others, been destroyed.
	He has been incarcerated because Kurt, what's happening is that a lot of the prosecutors in dozens of cases are seeking pretrial detention for these defendants, um, based on the fact that they participated in a capital riot, as they said.
	And because they don't think that the 2020 election was legit, that therefore they won't follow the laws of the U S government.
	It's super unconstitutional.
	Julie Kelly, are the prosecutors actually saying, because this guy doesn't believe that the election was legitimate, you must keep him in jail?
	Because that sounds super unconstitutional to me.
	It's super unconstitutional.
	Not only are the prosecutors saying this, they're writing it in their briefs, in their motions in front of the court.
	And the judges in Washington, D.C., you know, the Emmett Sullivan, the Amy Berman Jackson, all the judges who tried to go after Donald Trump and his people for four years, they're playing along with this.
	I mean, I hear this repeatedly.
	They're talking about QAnon in these hearings.
	I mean, I just listened to one this week where a prosecutor is saying how this particular defendant Not only believe in QAnon, but he was a digital soldier in perpetuating these conspiracy theories.
	The judge plays along and he's horrified.
	It's absurd!
	Now look, everybody should have counsel, but here's my concern.
	A lot of these public defenders are a bunch of leftist activists themselves.
	Are any of them standing up and saying, Hey, your honor, this is garbage.
	You can't keep him in jail because he believes something.
	You can't do that ever.
	Are they fighting or are they just rolling over?
	No, I mean, and you're aware of the case of Anna Morgan Lloyd, who is a 49-year-old Indiana grandma and has this left-wing public defender.
	A lot of these people can't afford attorneys.
	I mean, we're talking $50,000, $60,000 just to retain a D.C.
	criminal defense lawyer.
	I know families who are spending hundreds of thousands on an attorney to defend their loved one.
	So she gave this Indiana grandmother a reading list, again, a woman.
	not charged with any violent crime, let alone being a racist or, you know, an anti-Semite.
	But she gave her this politically correct movie book guide, and she had to basically beg for forgiveness for her white privilege in front of the court.
	The DOJ laughably said that they don't agree with her approach because they don't prosecute people based on their views.
	Well, that's a lie.
	That's not true, because just this week, Julie Kelly, leftists blocked access to the White House.
	They interfered with the operations of the White House, which I was informed by all the smart people was insurrection, and they were allowed to post and forfeit $50 bail.
	That's right.
	Well, I see a small difference there.
	Are any of these PDs going up to the Court of Appeals saying, hey, what the hell is going on here?
	Are they fighting for their clients or are they fighting for the establishment?
	They're fighting for the establishment.
	As you know, they're part of the establishment.
	And so these poor people... You know, Kurt, we're talking 90% who have never been in trouble in their life.
	They had no idea.
	They didn't even know when the FBI showed up.
	These people just talked to the FBI with no lawyer there.
	They thought they were helping the FBI find whoever the bad guys were, not knowing it's the FBI.
	Don't make that mistake.
	Don't make that mistake.
	You call your lawyer.
	You don't talk to the FBI.
	You can't.
	There might be a time when you could have.
	That time has passed.
	Because these guys are not operating in good faith.
	They are not.
	They're not at all.
	No, it's a disgrace.
	Here's another question.
	You've got your QAnon shaman.
	He's been in jail for six months.
	What happened to the right to a speedy trial?
	Because, I don't know, that seemed important when I was in law school.
	Well, again, I'm not a lawyer, but I watch these hearings closely.
	The prosecutors and judges keep signing off on this 60-day exemption to the Speedy Trial Act.
	In some of these cases, now we're on our second exemption.
	The government is arguing because they have so much evidence that they're struggling to put I would think that before you put someone in jail, you would have probable cause enough to convict them.
	I'm outraged, Julie.
	I am disgusted.
	They're starting to complain that they still don't have cases built against their clients.
	So it was a situation of arrest first.
	Well, I would think that before you put someone in jail, you would have probable cause enough to convict them.
	I'm outraged, Julie.
	I am disgusted.
	I am embarrassed.
	This is a disgrace on every level.
	And our garbage establishment is perfectly happy to have it, because that'll teach those proles their place.
	That'll teach you normal people who's boss.
	We have got to fight back.
	And Julie Kelly, I want to thank you because you are fighting back.
	You're doing the reporting that the mainstream media pretends it does, but it doesn't.
	It lies.
	It covers up.
	It licks boots.
	Julie Kelly of American Greatness, you do the job.
	Thank you very much.
	This is America First.
	We'll be right back.
	Clear.
	Ugh.
	You still there, Julie?
	I am, yeah.
	Hey, thank you very much.
	I know I got a little... I am unhappy about that.
	I'm trying to stay FCC compliant.
	This is a disgrace.
	I mean, this is... It's horrible.
	You can't...
	I can barely listen to these court hearings, you know, because they're so infuriating.
	What are the lawyers doing?
	Are their lawyers just sitting there going, okay?
	For the most part, yes, they are.
	How about the private lawyers?
	Are they doing any better?
	I mean, some of them have.
	You know, the shaman has a private lawyer, Al Watkins, but he gave an interview A month or so ago, basically saying that his client is a head case and a mental case.
	What a joke!
	Even the ones who are paid are betraying their own client.
	And there just aren't enough conservative criminal lawyers to do it.
	Yeah, they don't know what's going on.
	These people have never Well, it doesn't, and it's not going to result in anything good.
	Normal people are finding between the election and this that you don't have a judicial remedy.
	in this country they're learning the hard way but it doesn't it doesn't and it's not going to uh result in anything good no because you know for too long normal people are finding between the election and this that the you know you you don't have a judicial remedy you can't go you can't rely on the law that's a bad situation i I know.
	I've been in situations like that overseas.
	Not a good place to be.
	All right.
	Well, thank you for covering it.
	Well, thank you for doing it.
	You're doing a great job that no one else will, which is pretty amazing.
	Well, I appreciate it.
	You enjoy your wine and the Fourth of July.
	And remember, America is great.
	And don't let the people who hate it and want to destroy it take that away from us.
	Perfect.
	Alright.
	You're the best.
	No, didn't they already have it?
	Yeah, CPAC Dallas.
	No, I never get invited anywhere.
	All right.
	Well, next time we got to get together and get a little dinner and talk about these communists.
	Perfect.
	All right.
	Thanks.
	All right.
	You're the best.
	Thanks, Kurt.
	Bye.
	Take care.
	70 seconds.
	Yep, we're calling Mr. Hanson right now.
	Hanson!
	The Curtin Gym Show, here we go.
	Oh, here it is.
	50 seconds.
	Hey, it's Jeff.
	All right, I'm going to put you on hold.
	Just remember the mics are live on Rumble during the break.
	Sorry.
	Hang on.
	He's on the line.
	Hey, Playa.
	Curtis, how you doing, buddy?
	Oh, I just raged.
	I was so pissed hearing what Julie Kelly had to say.
	It's a freaking outrage.
	You know, she's always got the best bad news.
	She's pretty amazing.
	20 seconds.
	I guess we'd have to talk about that.
	Stand by.
	Standing by.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka,
	and this is America First with the one and only Kurt Schlichter. .
	We're back at America First.
	I am Kurt Schlichter, and I am joined by Jim Hansen, president of the Security Studies Group, a former Army Special Forces weapons sergeant, author of Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot, and a lot of people don't know this about Mr. Hansen.
	He also wrote the Hansen hit, Mbop.
	So, he's got that going for him.
	Dude, there was a Fox producer who used to play that every time I got in the chair just to try and throw me off.
	Nice!
	Are we going to get in trouble for cultural appropriation because the bumper music was back in black and we're both white?
	Yeah, that's a curveball, and I don't know, man.
	I need to interrogate the understandings of its Australian-ness.
	Yeah, that's a curveball, and I don't know, man.
	I think we've got to be careful about that.
	I don't want to – well, I mean – I just want to, like, sometimes just go on a tri-state spree.
	I see this insanity.
	I'm still, look, I'm still steaming.
	I just had Julie Kelly on.
	We were talking about the tourists arrested for trespassing in Washington, D.C., and what's happening I think spills over with your book, Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot, in that in order to maintain power, the left has broken the establishments, destroyed the norms and protections, and essentially said, we're not even going to pretend and essentially said, we're not even going to pretend you have a right to participate in your own governance.
	We're just going to try and use force, at this point judicial force, to keep you silenced and in line.
	And that can't work for very long, can it?
	No, they're coming for the Constitution.
	I mean, the fundamental transformation is from a constitutional republic to a totalitarian state of some labor of commie garbage.
	Pick Maoist, Marxist, doesn't matter.
	It's totalitarian statism.
	And they actually showed their hand with this new counterterrorism strategy they dropped last week.
	Because they're bragging in it about how they're outsourcing thought policing to the social media sites.
	It's literally in there.
	They're like, yeah, you know, we're gonna have the tech tyrants go ahead and make sure nobody says anything naughty on social media.
	And, you know, ignoring the fact that, well, you can't actually have them do that, because there's this pesky little First Amendment thing, but if they outsource it, they figure they can get away with it.
	Dude, they are not gonna stop until all of our liberties are at their discretion, and that's not how this game is played.
	And, you know, Jim Hansen, I don't think they're winning.
	I think they're doing things that are annoying.
	I think they're, uh...
	Irritating people, but I don't think they're silencing people.
	I think the resistance is building.
	I think there's going to be a massive backlash in 2022.
	These are not the moves of people who are confident in themselves.
	Trying to shut other people up and intimidate them is not the move you make when you think you're winning.
	It's a desperation move.
	What do you think of my analysis?
	Am I off?
	I think there's an element of truth in the first half.
	The second half about the backlash coming, they are definitely hitting us with a backlash.
	But I think it's almost overconfidence is why they're doing the things they're doing.
	You're right, they're the acts of, you would normally think, desperate people.
	But these guys are so arrogant, they think they're so right, and they are endowed by their, you know, Socialist creators to fix the planet and make sure that us running around with our individual liberties don't destroy anything, that they have to do this.
	So they don't have a choice.
	They are bound to fix the planet, socially engineer everybody into sweetness and light, with the milk of human kindness flowing through their veins.
	And the problem that you outlined, and the reason it's going to win for us, is the rest of us are seeing it now.
	You know, the COVID and everybody seeing their kids being taught this crap has basically aroused the sleeping giants, and we're coming back at them.
	And that's the problem.
	We're better at this than they are.
	Yeah, if you're going to take out the king, Jim Hansen, you ought to make sure you take him out.
	And I don't think they've taken us out.
	I think they're trying, but they keep running up into failures like, you know, this H.R.1, S.1 nonsense, where they want to basically take control of elections forever, and it's just not going to happen.
	Well, but they want to, and they're not going to stop.
	So what we need to do, and you pointed it out, is we have to play this exact game.
	We have to play the constitutionally authorized games where the rules still apply, and beat them at that.
	Whereas before, you know, we kind of assumed, okay, well, we'll vote, we'll do some other things.
	But, you know, it's not like they're actually trying to shut down the Republic and throw people into You know, gulags for re-education.
	Well, yeah, they are.
	That's what Julie was talking about.
	They are throwing people, and then they're literally forcing them to, you know, recant and do Maoist struggle sessions.
	So they're going to keep at it.
	And the only way we can beat them is for everybody on our team to recruit one more person to our team and get that person in the game.
	And then they've got to do the same.
	We've got to build it from the grassroots up.
	We've got to replace the useless Republican establishment.
	And we gotta kick these people's butts.
	One of the most interesting things, Jim Hansen, is the fact that conservatism doesn't look like the conservatism that liberals think they see.
	You know, where we're all John Lithgow and Footloose, mad because those kids are dancing to their rock and roll music.
	That's not what Republicans look like or are, even if they aren't now, if they ever were at any time.
	Well, we're not just males at Bushwood Country Club.
	We're more like Dangerfield.
	We're the cool kids now.
	That's just the counterculture.
	We're punk rock, and we're fighting back against them.
	Look, I am a person of power.
	I did the 23andMe thing, and they came back and said, compared to you, Mitt Romney's ethnic.
	All right.
	But the entire Republican Party doesn't look like the enemy.
	That's the thing.
	That's one of the places they're screwing up, is they're trying to turn whiteness into evil.
	And people are looking at that and saying it's crazy.
	You can't say all white people are racist.
	You can't say America is a white supremacist country and have anybody but the crazy people you've already convinced, you know, your woke mob, is going to nod their heads at that.
	And the people are going to get intimidated.
	The problem is the rest of us are no longer intimidated.
	We're not going to take it.
	Well, one of the things that gives me a lot of hope, Jim, is I will see footage of people going out to their school board meetings, state council meetings, whatever, talking about how terrible white CRT is.
	And they're not all white people.
	There are, you know, African-Americans saying, you're not going to teach me to hate.
	You're not teaching my kid to hate.
	My kid's not oppressed.
	And that's so American.
	And I love that.
	Well, because they understand that that hurts the quality, smart black kids as much as it hurts any white kid.
	Or the Asian kids, probably most of all.
	I mean, in the end, a meritocracy is what we all deserve, except for those of us who don't want to compete.
	And that's the left.
	They don't want to compete.
	They want to gain the outcome and skip the hard part.
	And I'm sorry, you don't get to do that.
	Some win, some lose someplace.
	And that's the way the game is played.
	And it's in the Constitution, and you can't just burn that because you're bored with that dusty old parchment.
	Well, thank you very much, Jim Hanson.
	Go out and get his book, Winning the Second Civil War Without Firing a Shot, and stick around here on America First.
	I'm guest host, Kurt Schlichter. Clear.
	Thanks a lot, man.
	All right.
	Have fun.
	Okay, playa.
	See ya.
	Okay, guys.
	We are rounding the bend.
	We are.
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	Crack that stink pickle.
	Oh, boy.
	Lots to...
	Lots to think about going into this 4th of July weekend.
	Yep.
	God, that Julie Kelly stuff's really... That is... Well, did you see?
	I remember seeing the video of the guy with the horns on January 6th, like, literally yelling at his fellow protesters, saying, we gotta keep it peaceful, guys.
	Be peaceful!
	Like, shouting.
	Have you noticed none of that stuff's getting in front of a jury?
	None of that will be?
	None of that has.
	Oh, it has.
	Oh, of course.
	Not yet.
	Yeah, of course not.
	It's a... Yeah, Amanda Milius.
	Amanda Milius?
	Yeah.
	Talking to someone on the phone.
	Oh, he's talking to her on the phone?
	Put her on!
	Put her on in the next segment after the thing.
	I love Amanda.
	No, it was a call I was asking about.
	A call I was asking about.
	Oh.
	I was like... No, not quite.
	We did have her on the show the other day in studio.
	That was nice.
	Yeah, she's cool.
	She was in Las Vegas with us.
	Oh, man.
	Two minutes.
	A little over two minutes.
	We go from Jim to Tim.
	Just like magic.
	Somebody sent me that Facebook thing.
	I'm gonna talk about that, I think.
	The Facebook notification?
	Oh, I love it.
	It's out of this world.
	Who is that even gonna get to?
	Like, someone that is on the right, like, they're gonna laugh at that.
	No one's gonna say, oh, let me get your recommendations, Facebook.
	I like your input.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it doesn't matter.
	I think they're doing it because they can.
	They know they can.
	We can laugh at them, but at the end of the day, what are we going to do about it?
	We're going to destroy them. - Meanwhile, they have, what, 57 genders that you can choose on Facebook?
	This transgenderism stuff is just, it's getting so much worse.
	Like, the only way we can even begin to really push back on it is to reinforce reality, which is to say that transgenderism isn't real.
	We need to keep reminding them that this is a mental disorder, not a legitimate thing.
	You know, if you think you're a chick, and you're not, I'm pretty sure Johns Hopkins classified that as gender dysphoria not even two years ago before they came to pressure and said, okay, it's not a mental illness anymore.
	Yeah.
	No, it's cool now.
	You're all better.
	Clinger.
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	Look, I've had a couple people point this out to me, and it's crazy talk.
	All right?
	You go on Facebook, right?
	This is just happening today.
	And up pops a little window, and it says, Are you concerned that someone you know is becoming an extremist?
	We care about preventing extremism on Facebook.
	Others in your situation have received confidential support.
	And there's that little I. How you can help.
	Hear stories and get advice from people who escaped violent extremist groups.
	What, you mean like BLM?
	Like Antifa?
	Oh my gosh, I totally support this!
	Stop The recruitment of innocent American young people by communist garbage organizations.
	I'm all for it!
	Yes!
	Wait.
	I'm sorry.
	Wait.
	I don't think they mean Antifa.
	I'm concerned.
	They don't appear to mean BLM.
	Who do they mean?
	They mean... Well, exactly who?
	Is it Q?
	Is that even a thing?
	Look, there's only one organized group of extremists out there, and they're leftists.
	They're leftists.
	You know what this really is?
	You know who they would tell you the extremists are?
	It's not the guys here burning down the Portland courthouse.
	It's not the folks who are surrounding cars in the road and threatening people's families.
	No.
	No, it's a bunch of elderly tourists wandering through the rotunda taking selfies.
	To them, the extremist is you, a normal American citizen.
	You believe that God created every American with individual rights.
	You believe in the flag.
	You stand for the national anthem.
	You projectile vomit when you see a bunch of athletes who disrespect it.
	Maybe you served in the military or supported people who did.
	Yeah, you're the extremist.
	You're the bad guy.
	In your own country.
	You built this country.
	You feed it.
	You fuel it.
	You defend it.
	And you're the bad guy?
	Because a bunch of Cupertino leftists with degrees in gender studies Got themselves jobs at Facebook, now they're telling you you're the bad guy?
	Here, here's the truth.
	You're not the bad guy.
	You're the good guy.
	You're the hero of this story.
	And you know what?
	The good guys always win.
	The hero will triumph.
	They will lose.
	They are not going to silence us.
	They're not going to shut us up.
	They're not going to keep us quiet.
	They are not going to disenfranchise us.
	I'm too old to live on my knees.
	And it's not just the arthritis.
	I am an American citizen.
	I will not be a serf.
	I am Kurt Schlichter.
	This is America First.
	Stick around for Tim Young.
	Clear.
	How was that rant?
	It was a rant.
	It's good to hear.
	It was very good.
	I'm just upset I didn't get the extremism warning.
	You haven't gotten it yet?
	I kept getting it non-stop.
	I'm gonna go on Facebook and say, Hey!
	Can you introduce me to Q?
	I don't know what I'm supposed to...
	First Bill Cosby gets set free and now apparently Britney Spears lost her court battle or whatever that was all about Conservatorship.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, because garden your freedom and stuff You're you're a lawyer in LA you should know about conservatorships more than the average average bloke Oh, I don't do that kind of law Tim Young, is that the one that was talking about Pisaki last time?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I remember.
	I remember.
	Oh, he's going to be fun.
	Oh, yeah.
	Rumble Chat loves your rant.
	You like my rant?
	Go, Kurt.
	Speak the truth, Kurt.
	Excellent rant.
	Kurt, Kurt, Kurt.
	They like you.
	Fight the power.
	Fight the power that be.
	Fight the power.
	Fight the power that be.
	I am public enemy.
	The man who runs his mouth is on the line.
	Uh oh, that would be Tim.
	During the breaks, the mics are live on Rumble.
	All right.
	All right, hang on.
	The man who runs his mouth is on the line.
	Uh-oh.
	That would be Tim.
	Are we on break?
	Yeah, you're on break.
	Can I swear on break?
	Yes.
	It's Rumble, yes you can.
	And Facebook.
	Okay, so you know I got viral on TikTok three times this week and these motherfuckers just suspended me because I posted a video comparing, it's on all of my other platforms, comparing Jesse Owens to this Gwenberry clown saying he's an American hero and she's a loser.
	They suspended me for hate speech and said I'm a dangerous individual.
	What?
	Yes.
	Yep, that's what it is.
	Did they say it to anyone else?
	Did they what?
	Did they say it to anyone else?
	No, so because of this video that I have where I talk about how Jesse Owens is a hero and an icon and then I go this person on the other hand is just a schemer and a loser.
	They're like, this is a violation of our terms, because this is hate speech, and you have been listed as a dangerous individual.
	That's ridiculous.
	Well, it's like when Milo went after Leslie Jones.
	I think your crime is that, you know, you're clearly racist, because you were criticizing a black woman, obviously.
	Yeah, that is exactly, that's totally what it is, and it's totally fucked up.
	But look, so I joined last Friday, and in that time, I almost had 5,000 followers.
	Which is what probably really worried them.
	Alright, 50 seconds.
	50 seconds to air.
	I got all my swearing out.
	We'll be good for air.
	Alright, excellent.
	You wanna talk about your little visit?
	Sure!
	Yeah, I know it's been a hell of a week for me.
	All right,
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	I decided it would be a good idea to wrap out my three-hour journey, the arc, as it were, because we've grown and we've changed along the way.
	The arc will terminate in a pot of gold, which is my pal, Tim something-or-other.
	Hey, Tim, how you doing?
	You know, I've had a hell of a week, Kurt.
	I know.
	Tim Young, of course, everybody.
	You know him.
	You love him.
	But the TikTok doesn't love you.
	No, TikTok has listed me as a dangerous person today because I posted a video, which you can see on all of my other social media platforms, that Tim runs his mouth, comparing Jesse Owens, a real American hero, to a clown that is known as Gwen Berry.
	And apparently somehow that is both hate speech and I am a dangerous person.
	That seems a bit overblown, but you know, as much as that fascist flex is obnoxious, that's not the worst fascist flex you've experienced this week.
	It's been, like I said, Kurt, a hell of a week.
	So the FBI called me, and thank God the Washington Times, who I work for, are looking into this now and are going to do some journalism-ing on this.
	So on January the 6th, I showed up as part of my On the Road with Tim Young.
	I filmed like 8 minutes and 20 seconds, because I'll be honest with you, it was very cold out there by the Capitol on January 6th, and I am a very fragile man.
	Yeah, you are not covered with downy golden fur, as many other conservatives are.
	You're kind of hairless, frankly.
	Well, yes, it's going.
	What little I have left is going, too.
	And so I showed up, I filmed for about 8 minutes and 12 seconds.
	Now, were you in the Capitol itself?
	No, absolutely not.
	I was outside.
	In fact, because I used to be an intern there, and how I looked at the building.
	And so was I!
	Oh, we gotta talk about that.
	We're gonna talk about that in a minute, but go on.
	Yeah, so I showed up, I filmed outside what was going on on the side of the Supreme Court, which was not the wild side of things, and I walked away.
	Apparently, the FBI wanted to ask me some questions about that.
	And the thing is, if they were just asking about that video, I'd be fine with it.
	But when they talked to me more, and you and I talked offline about this, They basically pointed out that they have a file on me, and they know everything from me going to law school, they obviously know where I live, and they've gone through all of my social media.
	And so I found that conversation to be very interesting and a bit intimidating, or an attempt at intimidating.
	Where did you leave it with these FBI gangbusters who are hassling peaceful protesters instead of stopping the mass murderers they know about?
	Well, he gave me his number and he said, if you know anything or find anything else out, give me a call.
	Why would you do that?
	I would ask, what would your thought process be that I would go and help you after the abuse you've leveled on regular American citizens?
	Why would I want to be part of that disgrace?
	You know, my moniker on all my social media is Tim Runs His Mouth.
	You do run your mouth.
	I do.
	But now I'm doing it more, because now that I know the government and some poor sucker has to monitor every one of my communications, they're probably monitoring all of my texts, my emails that Tucker Carlson said this week.
	I'm all in.
	I've got to hand it to you, because the unbelievable stream of profanity directed at eavesdroppers that you sent in a text to me, I mean, it was...
	A litany of perversions and bizarre practices that would probably intrigue and tantalize a Bulwark staff writer, but normal people would be repelled.
	Look, I don't commit crimes.
	I don't commit crimes.
	I've actually kept... I live a very, very boring life.
	I'll be very honest with you.
	Other than when I run my mouth on the internet and when I talk on radio and TV, I'm a very boring person.
	So if these POSs, I'm editing myself very carefully for online, want to investigate me and do this stuff and drag me into this.
	They're going to make me louder because if I'm going to go down, I'm not going down without a fight.
	Well, look, my recommendation is that as an American citizen, you have certain rights, and when the government comes and sends somebody with a gun to talk to you, it's not because they're here to help you, it's because they potentially want to do bad things to you, so you should assert those rights and say, no, I want to speak to a lawyer and I want you to cease questioning me immediately.
	And don't contact me again, you talk to my lawyer.
	And that is what you should do.
	I wish it wasn't that way, but I don't understand why anyone would trust members of an organization that have been participating in such outrageous abuses.
	Listen, I gave them 15 minutes the other day, and that's all I'm going to give them.
	I know that someone's probably listening directly on my line now.
	That's about 14 minutes, 30 seconds that a Bulwark staffer gives his bride on his wedding night.
	Heyo.
	Yes, he's given them a lot of credit.
	But, you know, Kurt, from this point forward, I happen to know a guy that I'm talking to on the radio.
	You know a guy?
	I'd really like to have come along with me on this journey if we go there.
	And so the thing is, I called you.
	I'm very fortunate that I know folks like you.
	I have Harmeet Gill and I have a few other people that are pretty known that I can make phone calls to.
	And you have been fully informed that you have chosen to waive attorney-client.
	Yes.
	But here's the thing.
	I can't imagine being a member of the general public who is not at my social media reach and not at my being able to call you.
	The first person I called was my congresswoman, who I'm friends with.
	Yeah, I just couldn't imagine being a member of the general public and in contact with the FBI and the intimidation that they must feel compared to me because I was stressed out by that call.
	A normal person getting that call, that's some real BS.
	No, it's super BS, and it's wrong.
	And we need to put an end to it, and the Republicans need to put an end to it.
	They need to stop tolerating this garbage, stop worrying about Marjorie Taylor Greene upsetting the liberals, and start worrying about the bureaucracy persecuting American citizens for exercising their God-given rights.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	I'm with you.
	And I'm so glad, by the way, you were called number two for me.
	You took five minutes to get back to me, by the way.
	It was very strict that when I called you, Schlichter.
	But I was very excited.
	I was in the middle of a thing.
	I was doing a thing.
	And hey, let's continue this conversation on the other side of the break here on America First.
	Join me in just a minute for more with Tim Young.
	Claire?
	Hey Tim, have you seen the Kristen Cinema hit piece?
	No.
	It's in Business Insider.
	Former Kirsten Sinema staffers detail a demoralizing office environment where blah blah blah.
	And I swear, listen to this.
	This is a tweet by whoever wrote it.
	One former intern said she fielded constant angry phone calls from Sinema's constituents and got reprimanded by a senior staffer when she went off script.
	And that staffer later threatened to derail her next internship offer.
	The intern emailed an advisor to ask for advice.
	Now, we were both congressional interns.
	I think we ought to hash that one out.
	Please, give me it.
	I'm so tired of all of this shit, honestly.
	And I really do think, not to harp on it, but the TikTok thing, I'm a dangerous individual.
	Dude, getting like 4,000 followers.
	Actually, it's like 4,200.
	I'm still gaining followers, even though I'm like whatever tank on TikTok in a week.
	That's got to be scary to somebody somewhere.
	I don't even know where to go with this stuff.
	But, you know, something that's intolerable can't be tolerated forever, and it won't be.
	They're not going to like the payback.
	Boy, wait till the DeSantis administration decides to treat Democrat donors' tax antics the way New York treated the Trump organizations.
	Well, you saw, by the way, the... Did you see the Supreme Court ruling on non-profits today on the list that California was building?
	Yes.
	Yes, that was huge.
	Yeah.
	That was an anti-Kamala ruling, is what that was.
	Nice.
	Nobody likes her.
	She's getting that... She got a big hit piece against her, too.
	Oh, that's the... I bet that's Jill, who wants to keep her power in the White House.
	She wants to put the vegetable out there up front and keep her power there.
	Yeah, I'm not sure that's going to work.
	I think Krusty's got an expiration date and it's fast approaching.
	Who knows?
	I mean, how old is Jimmy Carter?
	He's like 98.
	He's also three foot one.
	I mean, he's basically a corn-pwned Tyrian now.
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	work.
	We're back for the final segment of today's America First with Dr. Seb Gorka.
	I am guest host Kurt Schlichter.
	I'm continuing my conversation with my pal Tim Young, a desperado pursued by G-Men, but also a former intern in Congress, as I was myself.
	And Tim, I want to read this from a hit piece against Kristin Simina, part of the You Will Conform Uh, program of the media.
	Here's what I said.
	One former intern said she fielded constant angry phone calls from cinema's constituents and got reprimanded by a senior staffer when she went off script.
	And that staffer later threatened to derail her next internship offer.
	The, uh, intern emailed an advisor to ask for advice.
	What advice would I, would you give that intern, Tim Young?
	Go home.
	Go work at the Starbucks where you'll be happy and feel better about yourself.
	Be an assistant night manager.
	That's going to be the top of your career.
	The end.
	Well, here was mine.
	Do what you're freaking told you, you little halfwit.
	Okay?
	You got a script.
	No one wants freelance and interns.
	I know.
	I was one.
	When I wasn't hungover, I was already drinking.
	That's internship in Washington, D.C., folks.
	My colleague, who's actually a front desk staffer, whatever you call him, a greeter or whatever, would sleep under his desk drunk in the mornings when I would answer phone calls.
	It was a good time there in Capitol.
	Oh wow, I had a ton of fun!
	You know, pretty girls.
	We're halfway across the country.
	You know, everybody was living over in the Georgetown dorms.
	I got my internship through UC San Diego between junior and senior year.
	You know, I was 21.
	I was footloose and fancy free.
	I mean, what was it like in 1793 working with, like, you know, Sam Adams and Thomas Jefferson?
	Well, Jefferson was a little flatulent.
	But, no, it was 35 years ago right now.
	Like right now, 35 years ago.
	Mine was 15.
	God, I can't even tell the good stories because this is, you know, FCC compliant.
	But I had an interesting... I worked for Duncan Hunter 1.0.
	He was an army ranger in Vietnam.
	He had a shotgun in his closet in his office.
	He's pretty amazing.
	I was Tim Hutchinson and then Don Nichols in the Senate.
	I went right into the Senate.
	Ooh, fancy!
	I called alphabetically and I ended up getting an internship in Arkansas.
	I didn't have to go far down the alphabet.
	Really?
	You just started calling up going, hey, you want an internship?
	Sure, why not?
	Yeah, that's the crazy thing.
	It's like when you want to work for a living and you actually want to put an effort in and go somewhere, you just start hustling.
	And I literally struck gold in AR instead of having to go down further states.
	Wow.
	Well, thank you, Arkansas!
	And thank you, America, for putting America first.
	With Dr. Seb Gorka, I'm Kurt Schlichter.
	I want to thank the whole staff here, and of course, the good doctor himself, for letting me sit in.
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