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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Tucker: Who else is the NSA spying on?

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	Thank you.
	is not just political protesters the government is spying on.
	Yesterday we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S.
	government who reached out to warn us that the NSA, the National Security Agency, is monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.
	Now that's a shocking claim, and ordinarily we'd be skeptical of it.
	It's illegal for the NSA to spy on American citizens.
	It's a crime.
	It's not a third world country.
	Things like that should not happen in America.
	But unfortunately they do happen, and in this case they did happen.
	The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails.
	There's no other possible source for that information, period.
	The NSA captured that information without our knowledge and did it for political reasons.
	The Biden administration is spying on us.
	We have confirmed that.
	The Biden administration is spying on us.
	We have confirmed that.
	Welcome, dear friends.
	Greetings.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	I'm going to talk about that topic right now.
	That's what I'm going to talk about.
	But I want to inform you of breaking news because that is also my job.
	We have a redo of the OJ Simpson white bronco footage right now live on television.
	It's pathetic.
	It is disturbing.
	It's not a bronco.
	It's some little small Japanese vehicle and it's being tracked along the Pennsylvania Turnpike by helicopter news crews because who's in it?
	Not a murderer escaping the scene of the murder where he killed his ex-wife and her boyfriend, but a man who was very credibly convicted of sexual abuse and rape.
	Bill Cosby was left prison in a very, very peculiar turn of events after three years of incarceration.
	The Supreme Court in Pennsylvania said, nope, he walks free and he has walked free today.
	I don't really want to talk about him.
	He's clearly guilty because the evidence used to convict him was his own confession, which now has been deemed inadmissible.
	So he is released on a technicality rot.
	Okay.
	Spying.
	I made a bit of news, I think, yesterday night.
	A friend of mine, Grant Stinchfield, invited me onto Newsmax.
	And I'll tell you why Tucker's story of being spied upon by the NSA is not out of the question.
	After I left the White House, I was approached By two people who I'd met before, who are great Americans, risked life and limb in uniform and then out of uniform.
	One of them was a very senior, highly respected former CIA station chief, who had done amazing things for our country in the Middle East after 9-11.
	The other was a former military Individual who had very close ties and still does to the special operations and intelligence community.
	The name for me of the following.
	The most aggressive element of the National Security Agency.
	Used to be called the TAO.
	Tailored Access Operations.
	Its name has been changed multiple times since that name was revealed.
	Like everything, the bureaucracy wants to hide from you.
	But if you say T-A-O to somebody in the know, who works in national security, they know exactly what you're talking about.
	The snoops of the NSA, who can basically detect and take down any piece of electronic communications in the world.
	And these two individuals informed me that there was a small team of contractors, not government employees, but people with the full access, the clearances, who were in the TAO, in the Tailored Access Operations element of the National Security Agency.
	Whose job it was who had been tasked to surveil members of the Trump administration illegally for political purposes.
	I was one of those individuals.
	As was my former boss, Steve Bannon, Strategist, Chief, I was Strategist to the President, Steve wore the title Chief Strategist to the President.
	Amongst many others, our communications were surveilled illegally for political purposes.
	Since the interview last night, I have had it confirmed to me, today, by a former Secret Service agent, that yes, I was on a list of people being targeted for political purposes.
	He saw my name on that list.
	Now, if you're not familiar with the wilderness of mirrors that is America's 17 intelligence agencies, let me explain to you the constitutional limits and the function and mandate of the NSA.
	The National Security Agency is the signals intelligence arm of the intelligence world.
	They intercept communications of our enemies and our enemies' agents.
	However, they are not permitted to spy on Americans.
	They cannot target you just because they don't like your face or the person you work for.
	If they wish to target an American, they have to have permission to do so.
	They have to have the equivalent of a warrant.
	They have to demonstrate not only that you are acting In the interests of a foreign entity, whether it is a nation-state like China or Russia, or whether it is a non-state actor like Al-Qaeda or ISIS or Hamas, they have to demonstrate in front of a judge that you are not only acting on behalf of that nation or that non-state actor, but you are actually breaking the law.
	Buying a pair of shoes for the Chinese ambassador or ordering a bouquet of flowers on behalf of the Russian embassy is not requisite justification for having your emails intercepted or, as Tucker said, having his texts intercepted by the NSA.
	You have to be acting for the bad guys and you have to be breaking the law.
	Otherwise, you are committing a crime against that individual and against the U.S.
	Constitution and against America.
	So how does the NSA do this?
	Two ways.
	They lie, as they did with Carter Page.
	Carter Page, an individual who was a volunteer for the Trump campaign, who had helped the FBI, helped the FBI locate and neutralize Russian agents previously, who was lied about.
	By an FBI lawyer who changed a CIA document to say Carter Page was actually undermining America, not helping America, who forged a document and is walking free today.
	The other way they can do it, and they have many, is called traffic shaping.
	They're not allowed to intercept domestic communications.
	But if we're talking about the Internet, the Internet is global.
	So say I or Tucker sent an email from Washington D.C.
	from the White House or Fox News headquarters to somebody in New York.
	The NSA has the capabilities to reroute that email chain through Uzbekistan, Malaysia, Vanuatu, And then to lie and say, oh look, we picked up this email in a foreign country.
	And then to read all of our emails.
	That means you as well.
	We are not inching.
	We are sprinting towards a police state.
	And we cannot let that happen in America.
	I am Sebastian Gawker.
	This is America First on the Salem Radio Network.
	Explosive.
	Mic's on.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Do you want to do this, uh, Clavin?
	Yes!
	Ellis?
	Okay.
	Do you remember what we need?
	Or just a little bit like a longer one that would go at the top of the show?
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	You're listening to America First.
	Let me introduce my guest host for today.
	And then one that just says, welcome to America First.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	Let's get back to the show with.
	Let's get back to the show with.
	Let's get back to the show with.
	Yes.
	Mic's on.
	Come eat!
	Hello, Sebastian.
	How are you?
	Good.
	I hope your luncheon host is not annoyed at you.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think we'll be fine.
	We're all chill here in California for the most part.
	Good.
	Well, thank you for making time for us.
	I love what you said last night.
	I've opened my show with the story of what I revealed about the NSA spying on me and Steve when we were in the White House.
	So let's just continue the discussion and talk about the ways in which they simply skirt the Constitution.
	Absolutely.
	Good.
	Excellent.
	We're going to have your Twitter feed up on the Chiron, on the video.
	Any other way you'd like me to introduce you?
	No.
	CEO, Center for American Liberty, constitutional lawyer.
	Hang on.
	CEO, Center for American Liberty, and constitutional lawyer.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Stand by 90 seconds and we are live.
	Titles?
	Uh.
	Um... The NSA spied on Bannon and... Is it me or myself?
	What's the grammar?
	I?
	No.
	No, that's a common misconception.
	Hey, Dr. G. Do I talk about myself in the third person?
	Yeah.
	It's fine for a title of a video.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	One quick thing.
	Yes?
	Do you want me to add Woodson's book, as he mentioned it, for the Newsmax?
	Yes!
	Absolutely.
	Can you?
	Yeah, please.
	That'd be great.
	Okay.
	And then Horne and or Ellis.
	Hang on, I want to see the cuts.
	Okay.
	You got 16 of them.
	Can't come in with...
	Cut five.
	Cut five from today.
	Yeah.
	Tucker and... Oh, yeah, of course.
	All right.
	Standing by.
	Thirty seconds.
	Got it.
	Now the current law is that the phone companies gather this data and they have to store it.
	But the NSA can go over and ask for it and go shopping in a treasure trove of billions of pieces of data anytime they want.
	And in fact, dating back to 2018, the NSA has looked at or had access to over half a billion records of American communication.
	So you're one of them.
	But frankly, any important person, any enemy of the state should expect that there is some way that the NSA can get a hold of somebody near you, get an order or a right to ask questions.
	And all of a sudden they have all the information.
	Venti Beria, the founder of the Pro Runner, the early KGB, said, show me the man and I will find you the crime.
	It looks as if that's where we are heading in America.
	You just heard from Fox News, the CEO for the Center for American Liberty, constitutional lawyer, Harmeet Dhillon, who joins us right now on America First.
	Harmeet, welcome back.
	Thanks, happy to be here again.
	So it looks to me as somebody who I was told is being targeted or was targeted during my time in the White House by the US intelligence community for political purposes that it seems The NSA, the CIA, the FBI, if we look at Mike Flynn and others, can pretty much do what they like.
	You're the expert.
	You represent people who are fighting the good fight and whistleblowers and others.
	Is it as bad as Tucker and others would make it seem?
	Well, yes, it is as bad and possibly worse, because we don't even know some of the things that they're doing.
	But, you know, to be fair to, you know, the law and the state of play here, I think American lawmakers and presidents have been concerned about security issues and courts.
	And so we are, I would call it, a constant battle back and forth between the security agencies, which keep growing and expanding their surveillance power and seek to be panopticon and see everything we're doing, and conscientious lawmakers of both parties and courts and executives who are constantly putting guardrails around them.
	But, you know, generally speaking, the expansion of the surveillance state has been driven by presidents' executive orders.
	Ronald Reagan, in 1981, signed one of the most expansive executive orders on this issue that still governs a lot of our national security spying apparatus.
	You know, the National Security Act was signed back in 1947, after World War II, and that established some of this as well.
	And so, you know, they keep getting reversals in court, they keep getting caught Exceeding the scope of executive orders and laws regarding this, they keep getting rained back in and then they find other ways to do it.
	So that's the struggle, is that these guys are coloring outside the lines.
	And as I mentioned on Tucker's show yesterday, when you go into court as a citizen who even has evidence from, say, a contractor like Edward Snowden or an AT&T contractor, like the Juul case that I mentioned on the show last night, the courts will either say, you don't have enough evidence, You know, you need a second witness, you need a third witness, or if you have the goods, they say, sorry, we can't enforce the subpoena against the government because it's a national security issue.
	So, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't, and our privacy has been left in shreds by this regime.
	It seems as if, so originally with the National Security Act of 1947 that created the NSC, created the CIA, the idea was we have enemies, we have to be able to access their information to surveil them, but there are limits.
	You can't spy on Americans in America without a reason to do so.
	But if you look at the two-hop rule, if you look at the traffic shaping that moves internet communications out of territorial U.S.
	into foreign areas, it seems as if the intelligence community has just found ways to skirt Article 4 protections of the U.S.
	Constitution, Hamid.
	Well, yeah, I think that's right.
	I mean, so, you know, you think about when we passed all these laws, Even the more modern laws, when Ronald Reagan signed his executive order, there were no cell phones.
	There was no concept of being able to spy on the communications of a foreign person on a cell phone.
	Bootstrap that into spying on Americans, which is... Or, my god, in the Carter Page situation, engineering a meeting abroad, and then using that as an excuse to go to a federal secret court to spy on the communications of a presidential campaign.
	That is stuff that people used to go to prison for.
	And now, it is routine, and in fact, the government crafts its spying regiment around these technological issues.
	And beyond that, You never would have thought that American companies would be complicit in handing over this information routinely.
	Again, the Juul case that I mentioned on the show, a lawsuit filed back in 2008, was after an AT&T contractor came out with a story that said, hey, there's a secret room in the AT&T offices in San Francisco where 100% of the traffic is just diverted to the government.
	We wouldn't have known that without that contractor coming forward.
	That would have been a crime in prior years.
	Perceived as a blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment by the founders of this country.
	And yet it is rubber stamped by our courts.
	And by the way, I have to say, it's the Republican lawmakers who are the most eager to sign off on spying legislation and the Patriot Act.
	And there have been a few Democrats who have been opposed to it.
	So we don't have a clean record on the conservative side, on the constitutional side.
	Constitutionalist side on this issue.
	And there seems to be a strange paradox that unfettered access to the communications, separate sealed rooms for the communications of U.S.
	citizens on U.S.
	soil, but when a terrorist kills 13 people at a Christmas party in San Bernardino, Apple doesn't want to unlock his phone.
	So what are the double standards you've witnessed inside corporate America?
	Well, I think that's right.
	I mean, so on that issue, I think that just to be fair to these companies, the issue is what does the public know about?
	And so because that issue was very open, you know, it was a PR issue for them.
	They didn't want, you know, everybody who smokes a joint to, you know, think that if they get pulled over, you know, they didn't want people to stop using their technology because of this one issue.
	But where citizens don't know about it, the AT&T example I just gave you, or Gosh knows how many other examples where, for example, there are certain aspects of our national security apparatus where the government routinely requests data and also bans the recipient of that subpoena from revealing it to the target.
	All of these social media companies, telecommunications providers, Yahoo, Gmail, you name it, they've all gotten subpoenas.
	Right now they're giving the evidence, the documents and communications of American citizens But they're forbidden from disclosing it.
	They're more comfortable doing that.
	They comply with the government.
	They don't go to court to try to stop themselves from having to do that.
	As long as you don't find out about it, they're cool with it.
	We have to ask the question in the next segment from our special guest, Harmeet Dhillon.
	What do we do when we witness what has happened to people like Carter Page, who actually helped the federal government neutralize Russian assets here in the United States?
	When we see what happened to General Flynn, National Security Advisor, who was targeted for years on end to the tune of more than $3 million.
	What is the response if we have not only an acquiescent Democrat party, but a GOP and the corporations?
	What is left to us mere mortals?
	Follow her right now at PNJABAN on Twitter.
	She is the CEO for the Center for American Liberty, constitutional lawyer Harmeet Dhillon.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Hamid?
	Yes?
	All right, we're gonna have a three-minute break, but the microphones are still hot on our video stream.
	And then we've got just a short segment, about six minutes, and then we'll let you go.
	Great.
	When are you next coming to DC?
	Any ideas, any plans?
	To be honest with you, I try to avoid D.C.
	as much as I possibly can, but I'm sure I will be back there soon.
	It's been a very busy summer here with our law firm working on so many different civil rights issues.
	We'd love to have you in studio if you come.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, that comment you made about the GOP, that's Who's fighting?
	Who's fighting in the establishment?
	It's really quite shocking.
	Yeah, I mean, they're all rubber stamping to try to look like they're hard on terrorism, but, you know, I think it's, I think that nobody is looking at the weaponization of this against all Americans.
	American Civil Liberties Union still cares about this issue, not so much about free speech.
	The Electronic Frontier Foundation is fighting some of these national security cases as well.
	But other than that, our side is pretty silent.
	Have you seen any other corporations that have stood out as being more decent on this issue than others?
	You know, just the two I mentioned, I think the concern is that after 9-11 I was very vocal on the Patriot Act issues and knew that they could be used this way and now it's 20 years later and that's exactly how they're being used.
	I think my litmus test going forward is when people are asking me for cash.
	In political campaigns, I would like to know the positions of politicians on these issues.
	I think that it's fair for us to start asking those questions and hold people accountable.
	Who are you most impressed with?
	What kind of people on Capitol Hill do you think get it?
	I think the freshmen are more concerned about it.
	I mean, when you see, for example, who has been supportive of Tucker on this issue and not mocking him has been freshman members of Congress.
	Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, others like that are very concerned about this issue.
	It seems almost like once you get to D.C.
	and you've been there for a while, you get co-opted by you know, all the rhetoric.
	But, you know, literally most of them come and get elected, and they have no program as to what they're going to do to increase our liberty specifically.
	What legislation are they going to introduce?
	What's their position going to be on the reauthorization of the Patriot Act, which has been reauthorized, you know, many times now over the years, and Republicans always vote for it.
	Very few exceptions.
	Rand Paul would be one, Ron Paul before him.
	You know, libertarians care more about these issues than conservatives, typically.
	Yeah.
	Do you think this Tucker story has legs? - Yes.
	Yes.
	I think the question that she was going to drop is to, you know, like he, I think the context was he was talking to a source before an interview.
	And so who's that?
	And, you know, is that a foreign party?
	And is that the explanation?
	You know, it's not a full explanation, but the fact that there are no protocols to protect the information of an American citizen whose communications are swept up That is a breach of their protocol.
	They're not supposed to be capturing it.
	If they capture it incidentally, they're supposed to protect it.
	They're not protecting it.
	They're passing it around the office, just like you see on American television dramas like The Good Wife.
	This was an episode of The Good Wife.
	Stand by.
	With breaking news, here's Sebastian Gorka.
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	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	We continue our national security discussion with Harmeet Dhillon.
	She is the CEO for the Center for American Liberty Constitutional Lawyer.
	Follow her right now PNJABAN on Twitter.
	Harmeet, you said something very interesting at the beginning of the last segment where it seems as if Our side, the good guys who should be fighting for the freedoms this nation was built upon, are supplicant, roll over onto their backs, rubber stamp these issues.
	Whether it's the establishment GOP or whether it's organizations like the ACLU who should be fighting, Where is the real courage?
	Is it individuals, individual whistleblowers that you have to represent?
	Where is the actual fight on these issues?
	Where is the actual fight?
	I think, you know, the actual fight is people like Tucker Carlson, who have the platform and the power to speak out and condemn this.
	Too many Americans today are sheep.
	I mean, I have been suing big tech for many years now.
	And I am still stunned when people send me an email on the Gmail mail service, which many conservatives use for some reason, because it's free, which is bizarre.
	And they're like, well, you know, Big Tech is spying on me.
	Big Tech is taking away my rights.
	And I'm like, well, you're giving it to Big Tech.
	You are yourself using no discipline whatsoever in protecting your own data.
	So I don't use these products as much as possible.
	I can avoid them.
	I don't use them.
	Or I, you know, take care to Remove them after their usage and, of course, they're still tracking you or what have you.
	But basically, the other thing that people do not realize is that all of that nightmare scenario we're talking about, the government spying on you, because corporations have been given the right and because corporations lie about the extent to which they use our data without our consent, the government doesn't even need to get a subpoena to track your movement.
	I think we're going to find that a lot of the background work that was done to track Citizen protesters, or you know what I would call, you know, trespassing protesters at the Capitol on January 6th.
	Not the violent people, but, you know, people who just sort of came and went.
	It happened because the government is able to purchase data of your movements from cell phone carriers and from advertisers.
	So, you know, a lot of apps that we use on our phones, by our permission, I'm guilty of this as well, track our movements, our healthcare and fitness apps.
	And you can buy that data as an advertiser.
	And the government can buy that data.
	And you, Sebastian Gorka, can buy that data.
	And then you can find out whether, you know, Susan was in the Capitol and where she was exactly with cell phone tower pings.
	So that doesn't even require a subpoena anymore.
	People don't know this.
	And, you know, on the one hand, I'd like to be able to weaponize and use this information for law enforcement purposes, such as, for example, people fiddling with ballots.
	But on the other hand, you know, citizens have some rights that we're just freely giving away.
	Now, Europe has a much better regimen on privacy and security than we do in this country.
	Now, when you visit a website and you have to give your consent for them to track you, you can thank the EU for that.
	The EU made that the law in the European markets, and providers have now Put that out affirmatively throughout the world if they want to do business in the EU.
	I love that.
	You know, you're still not sure what you're giving away, but at least you're being asked, and that's only polite.
	So I think Americans need to wake up about this issue and, you know, stop, number one, giving away their stuff for free.
	And we should be demanding as a affirmative platform on the conservative side of when we elect politicians That they care about these issues and know what their platforms are.
	I mean, I was thinking this morning, how many of our conservative politicians in Congress and in governors' houses, they're simply reply guys.
	You know, we don't have our own program on a lot of these issues.
	We're simply criticizing the other side's program.
	The other side's not shy at all.
	They have their own programs, and some of them are good on some of these privacy issues.
	So we need to find common ground with the left on these issues where we can.
	We've only got 30 seconds left with Harmeet Dhillon.
	You're fighting these issues of big tech as well.
	As a conservative, what's your response?
	What's the right answer?
	Strip them of their immunity, break them up, or something else?
	All of the above.
	We need radical change in how we treat these big tech companies.
	We need to regain our privacy and regain our lives.
	Yeah, and stop using Gmail.
	Is there something you prefer?
	Would you like to give free advertising to a platform you like?
	Well, if you have your own business, you should just use your own server.
	Pay for it.
	It's like 20 bucks, you know, of your own URL.
	But you can also use ProtonMail for privacy.
	That's a good encrypted service.
	There you go.
	Harmeet Dhillon.
	Follow her on Twitter at P-N-J-A-B-A-N.
	She is the CEO of the Center for American Liberty and Constitutional Lawyer.
	God bless you for fighting the fight.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	Thank you very much, Seb.
	I certainly appreciate it.
	Hope all is well with you.
	Absolutely.
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	Is it true that Drop Creators Network has dropped its case against the MLB for moving the All-Star game out of Atlanta?
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	But the fight is not over.
	We're glad.
	We're still happy that we did it because, you know what, I think Major League Baseball knows that people are watching, we're watching, and they were put on notice that they can't do the kind of crap that they pulled and just get away with it.
	So we haven't given up.
	We're still looking at options.
	I've said and hopefully we'll have something more to report shortly.
	All right, so you are fighting for the small businesses that employ most of Americans across the country.
	We have to get their take.
	What are we seeing in terms of the impact of Biden's policies on inflation?
	You see the price of gas record-breaking increases, the price of lumber and everything else.
	How is this affecting and what is the reaction from small businesses?
	Oh, it's just horrible.
	I mean, the impact on this, I mean, especially right now when they're trying to pull out in the post-COVID era here, you know, a lot of people are out there, consumers are spending, you know, with the money that they've got, in some cases, the government dollars.
	But, you know, the inflation reality is real.
	I mean, the prices that they're having to pay for, you know, their goods and services, the supplies, Uh, you know, now for energy, for example, uh, they can't get labor because they're, they're frankly working against the government, uh, as the largest employer with all those checks are basically intending people to stay at home.
	Uh, we have one, uh, one member, for example, had, had three restaurants in Southern Florida.
	He had a temporary closed too.
	Uh, and the third one, it's him and his mom working the location.
	Because he cannot find people to work.
	And he's not offering them $7 an hour.
	He's offering $18 an hour.
	That's incredible.
	And it's a double whammy, isn't it?
	It's a double whammy of the unemployment benefits and then this increased government spending, which is really, you know, just for their buddies, isn't it, Alfredo?
	Oh my God, it's just horrible.
	I mean, you know, one of the things is that, you know, as you recall, just a handful of years ago, right?
	Uh, the American work ethic and the American worker really was the envy of the world, right?
	And in a matter of months, I mean, Biden and the administration, the Democrats have basically destroyed that because they are incenting people to just stay at home and wait till the, you know, the, the, the other benefits are kicking in first in terms of dependent care and child pack credits and all that other stuff.
	I was talking to Steve Moore the other day and the estimate from, from, from the group that he runs.
	Um, you know, the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, their estimates are something like $102,000 now that you would get profoundly for, for not working.
	Incredible.
	It's horrible.
	Yeah, we're talking to Alfredo Ortiz.
	Check out his amazing team at JobCreatorsNetwork.com.
	You can join the team of their small business advocates at JoinJCN.com.
	That's JoinJCN.com.
	Tell us, Alfredo, about this team building and how you're helping small businesses.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Well, look, I mean, first of all, small businesses need to be able to stick together.
	Um, you know, what the Biden administration and the Democrats are doing is really a war on small business.
	And they're really trying to basically make sure that they go effectively non-existent and that big business continues to exist.
	The one thing that Democrats know how to do over big business is that they can corral them, they can control them, they can get in bed with them, right?
	They can't do that with small businesses because it represents everything we believe in.
	Free enterprise, the greatest You know, the Great American Experiment called, you know, owning your own business, owning your own, you know, way to make a living.
	And they hate that because they can't control that.
	And so that's why they're, you know, through tax increases, trying to pass, you know, the mandated federal minimum wage.
	I mean, you name it, you know, all the impacts right now on inflation, to your point.
	I mean, it is impossible right now to be a small business owner and not feel the stress of the federal government on your back.
	Last 30 seconds, Alfredo.
	I think a lot of small business owners think that they're weak, they don't have power, but JCN, they can demonstrate the power of small businesses, correct?
	Yeah, that's absolutely right.
	I mean, when we were really cold together, I don't mean to sound like Hillary Clinton, but we are stronger together.
	You know, I mean, we really are.
	I mean, there's 30 million small businesses out there that employ 60 million people.
	That's a community of 90 million people.
	Right?
	And 90 million people can stand up together and stand up to the ridiculous things that are coming out of DC right now.
	Well, God bless you and your team.
	Jumpcreatorsnetwork.com.
	Join their team of small business advocates at joinjcn.com.
	That's joinjcn.com.
	Together we have the power.
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	We had a mind milled there, Dr. G, because I also, the first thing I thought was, he's off to see the last great known unknown. - Yeah.
	I hope we are the first people to get that out there.
	I hope.
	Who knows?
	I was thinking Known Unknown or Known Known.
	I was debating.
	Yeah, Known Unknown I think is a good one.
	Known Unknown.
	Whoa, it's the anniversary of the Night of the Long Knives.
	Oh, really?
	Hello, all 2400 Rumble Vs.
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	Rumble louder, let's go.
	Rumble!
	The rumbling cannot be stopped.
	I gotta check the President's Rumble channel.
	I guarantee he's gonna be the number one.
	Oh yeah, let's see how many subs he's got.
	In like a day, he doubled his subscriber count.
	Good.
	He was less than Don Jr.
	last I checked.
	How big is Donald Jr.?
	Like 100,000 more.
	But he's been on for a year.
	Right.
	Donald J. Trump, already 401,000 subscribers.
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	work.
	So with that, we're going over to the border right now.
	But we're going to the real part of the border where there's real problems, not a part where you look around and you don't see anybody.
	And we're going to admire the wall and how it works, because wherever we have the wall, that's what made the big difference.
	It made a tremendous difference.
	I wonder who is talking about that.
	President Trump today in Texas with the governor, Greg Abbott, talking about visiting the border.
	You know, the real border.
	The one that matters where the illegals are crossing.
	Not the other border that's secure because I built a wall which is...
	Where Kamala went.
	I hope she liked the wall.
	I hope she appreciated it.
	He didn't just talk about the cackler.
	He talked about the man who bears the title of president, that senile swamp dweller.
	This was President Trump earlier today about certain health issues.
	Cut three.
	So, and there's my doctor right over there.
	My doctor.
	He said, you know, sir, if you want, you're really smart.
	You ought to take the cognitive test.
	I said, oh, what's that?
	Doc Ronnie, right?
	Now we call him Mr. Congressman.
	What a job you've done, Ronnie.
	They went after him, and it didn't work out too well.
	There you are.
	The Democrats went after him like you wouldn't believe.
	But he did a test.
	Did I ace it?
	I aced it.
	And I'd like to see Biden ace it.
	He won't ace it.
	He'll get the first two.
	There's 35 questions, and the first two or three are pretty easy.
	They're the animals.
	Is this a lion?
	A giraffe?
	When he gets to around 20, he's going to have a little hard time.
	I think he's going to have a hard time with the first few, actually.
	He's still got his sense of humor.
	Chan, am I acing it?
	Am I acing it?
	Acing the cognitive test?
	No, the radio!
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	Three weeks?
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	All right, then I have to read the drop craters, right?
	Yes.
	All right.
	Do you want to do that now, or...?
	Uh, no.
	Okay.
	Colonel Lohmeyer, can you hear us?
	I can hear you.
	How about me?
	Great, great sound.
	Thank you for joining us.
	So we're going to do long form as you requested.
	We're giving you the whole hour.
	It's live, so we break it up into five segments, but we're going to discuss the book, everything that you teach or you write about in the book, and then we'll take it from there.
	Can you please adjust your camera down a bit for us, Colonel Lohmeyer?
	You want to see my belly?
	Not quite.
	A little bit more.
	Right there.
	A little bit more.
	A little bit more because of the... Okay, good.
	Excellent.
	How about this?
	Excellent.
	And then, when we're going through the Chiron or rotating, will you put his book title in the Chiron?
	The book title, yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right, 60 seconds and we are live.
	And you are on Twitter as well, right, Colonel?
	I am, yeah.
	Okay, at Matthew Lohmeyer.
	Yep.
	It is, yep.
	All right.
	50 seconds.
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	Right now, footage from Norristown, Pennsylvania.
	Bill Cosby, who has been released from prison on a technicality, incredibly, after three years, despite admitting to his crimes, is about to give a press conference.
	If there's anything significant, we will share it with you.
	And on top of that, the man who brought us the known unknowns, the known knowns, is gone.
	He has passed on.
	Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has begun his journey into the great.
	Known.
	Unknown.
	But we have jobs to do here on the Salem Radio Network, and one of them has to do with my favorite form of radio.
	I reached out to somebody I've been trying to get on this show for quite some time now.
	He's almost as hard as the president, but we got the president on the show!
	I mean, President Trump, and now we've got this individual who's written an incredible book.
	His name is Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer, F-15C fighter pilot, Space Force commander, and the author of an incredible work.
	that I have been working my way through.
	It's not the kind of book I expected a fighter pilot to write.
	It is called Irresistible Revolution, Marxism's Goal of Conquest and the Unmaking of the American Military.
	Colonel Lohmeyer, welcome to America First.
	Seb, thank you for having me on today.
	And I have to say, I even missed that in my intro.
	The The reason, we were going back and forth yesterday, we said, well, I could come on your TV show, but I'd like a longer chance to discuss these issues.
	Let's do a long form thing, which is my kind of radio.
	So we're going to steal you.
	We're going to talk about this as much as we can before our next guest.
	So first things first, you created a firestorm with the release of this book and then what you said in interviews afterwards.
	As a result, your position as a commander at the Space Force was suspended.
	There was an Air Force investigation.
	Can you tell us, if you're allowed to, what your status is today as a member of the Armed Forces?
	Happy to.
	First, I'll say that these are my views, as always, and not those of the Defense Department.
	You know, you mentioned Donald Rumsfeld in your opening remarks before you introduced me.
	I'm reminded of the part of that quote that you did not quote, and there are things that we do not know that we do not know, and those are exceptionally dangerous threats.
	One of the reasons I decided to write a book, Irresistible Revolution, is because sometimes soundbite answers just don't cut it.
	So before I get into my status, I just want to say that before I ever published a book, and it's not something that I've spoken much about, In media forums, I did my diligence in trying to convey to the chain of command, using the internal mechanisms that were available to me as a commander, my concerns over the divisive nature of some of our diversity and inclusion trainings, specifically because they were rooted in critical race theory.
	After having discussed these concerns with my chain of command, I then filed a formal complaint with the Inspector General's Office of the Space Force.
	It was after all of that, and seemingly in my perception to no avail, that I figured that soundbite answers just weren't good enough.
	There's plenty of things that we just don't know that we don't know.
	And nothing short of a book that would probably, likely, gain a lot of attention was actually going to help educate both the American people as to the threats that we're facing domestically, internally.
	Uh, to our constitution and our way of life, but also to help service members and our senior leaders understand, uh, why it was that I perceived that these things were so dangerous.
	So, uh, with that said, when I was fired on the 14th of May, uh, you know, a little about a month and a half ago, uh, I was also informed that day that I'd be, uh, under investigation.
	There was a command directed investigation that was to be opened.
	Uh, fortunately, There's not much I can share with you about the status of any investigation, because I've not had any communication that's come to me by way of informing me of the status of that investigation.
	But I'll say what I've read in the media.
	I've read in the media that that initial investigation, called the command-directed investigation, was terminated by the Department of the Air Force, and there was a new investigation that was opened by the Air Force Inspector General's office.
	But whether or not it's me or others and or others that are under investigation, I can't say because I've never had any of that communicated to me in writing or verbally.
	And so right now my status is an active duty Lieutenant Colonel in the Space Force, currently on personal leave as I await further word on where things stand at the moment and I counsel with my attorney and forge each day and week ahead and do shows like this with you.
	Well, we are very, very grateful.
	We have been working hard to get you on this show.
	And first things first, thank you for your service.
	You are a rare breed.
	I've worked with the US military since September the 11th, proud to have been a civilian DoD instructor at the National Defense University, working with Fort Bragg, with the Marines, the Marine Corps University.
	And I found the rare combination of a true operator like yourself who can also do the big Analytical thinking, and your book truly demonstrates that.
	The book is Irresistible Revolution.
	It was sold out when this individual came to prominence in the media.
	You've got to read it.
	So first things first, we're going to walk through the issues.
	Let me ask you, how many years do you have in I've got 15 and a half years in.
	Okay, 15 and a half years in.
	And as a person who has risen to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, who is at one of the sexiest, coolest things in the U.S.
	military, which is Space Force, can you just tell us, in this first segment, why you wrote the book that you wrote?
	What was the real motivation for you to sit down after you tried through your train of command?
	What is it that you had to share with your fellow Americans?
	A warning.
	The overarching reason I wrote a book is for a warning.
	I am by no means an expert.
	I take that title very seriously.
	There are a few experts here and there in various fields, but I am a student of history.
	The Defense Department sent me to what some people consider the Defense Department's premier strategy school, the School of Advanced Air and Space Studies.
	And as a part of that course, you study Air Power History, Irregular Warfare, Civil War, and as a part of our Cold War period Air Power History courses, I took a little bit of extra time and paid extra attention studying Marxism and Communist Revolutions.
	Have you still got me, Seb?
	Yeah, we got you.
	Keep talking.
	Keep talking.
	The picture's frozen, but that's fine.
	keep talking.
	We're good.
	Are you there, Matthew?
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Oh.
	Have you still got me?
	Yeah, keep talking.
	We're good.
	Keep talking.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	As a part of that strategy school, I had studied Marxist history, beginning with Marx and Engels' Communist Manifesto from 1848.
	And when I first studied that and saw in section one of the manifesto what you can recognize as what's called the oppressor versus oppressed narrative of human history, A whole bunch of stuff that was taking place in our country began to become exceptionally clear to me, and I began to piece together a lot of the what I'll call militant impulse that was manifesting in society as time went on.
	And there's a victimhood ideology.
	There's constantly an effort by some individuals who have an agenda to pit groups of people against one another as victims or oppressed groups and oppressor groups and we've seen very clearly over the past calendar year who the oppressor group is labeled to be and who the oppressed groups are labeled to be and right now under the auspices of diversity and inclusion training as well as
	Critical race theory and other narratives of American history that have been parading about throughout the country and showing up in our education system.
	All of those narratives seek to divide the American people by pitting people against one another into racial groups.
	It's the white versus the black.
	It used to be class, division by class, now it's division by race, by skin color.
	We've only begun to scratch the surface.
	We're going to go deep dive on what's happening inside the U.S.
	military and why this man took the courageous step of writing the book Irresistible revolution.
	Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeier.
	Follow him right now.
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	That's L-O-H-M-E-I-E-R.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	All right.
	And just letting you know, sir, that the mics are still live on our Rumble and Facebook broadcast.
	Right.
	Now, you know, the radio has gone into commercials, but the video viewers get to hear the whole time.
	Can I just ask you, because we do a close up when it's just you talking, can you pull the top down a bit, a little less headroom?
	OK.
	Perfect.
	Good.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	Good.
	So when did you start writing the book and how long did it take you?
	I wrote the book from the first week of December to the end of April.
	Oh my gosh, wow!
	And I have to ask, it's such a well-written book and you do it with such a solid knowledge of history.
	What's your family background?
	What did your parents do?
	My dad has been a career UPS driver.
	It's delivery driver for UPS.
	Also did feeder driving for them at UPS and it was nearly 30 years.
	It was over 25 years, I'm pretty sure.
	Wow.
	And my mom was a stay-at-home mom.
	Wow, they must be very proud of you.
	They're listening right now.
	Greetings, mom and dad.
	Hey, when you mentioned that school, is that the one in Alabama?
	No, is that Maxwell Air Force Base?
	It is.
	Maxwell Air Force Base is in Montgomery, Alabama.
	They do a number of schools out there, but the SAS is also out there.
	SAS school.
	Yeah, I was a guest lecturer at SAS.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, yeah.
	My buddy ran the IW course, the Irregular Warfare course.
	Should we redial him?
	Do you think?
	What do you think?
	A couple of freezes?
	Eric?
	We can if you want.
	Yeah, let's dial you back.
	Let's dial you back.
	Standby.
	Hey.
	How about now?
	Can you hear us?
	I can hear you.
	Good.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Let's... What do I have here?
	You want to use that Millicut or you want to hold on to it for now?
	I'll come in in D with that, but I'm going to do... MyPatriotSupply.
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	All right.
	Minute 45.
	So he hasn't started the press conference, right, Cosby?
	No, not yet.
	Or is he not talking?
	Supposed to be soon.
	Um, what else do I have to do?
	I have to record this thing, right?
	The JCN.
	JCN, okay.
	We'll do that in the next break.
	Sounds good.
	All right, 60 seconds.
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	We are back with Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer of Space Force, as was the author of Irresistible Revolution, Marxism's Goal of Conquest and the Unmaking of the American Military.
	Matthew, I spent five and a half years teaching at National Defence University, then another two and a half years at the Marine Corps University, and I witnessed, ten years ago, the beginnings of this change in military culture, not at the ranks of most of the people I dealt with, who were majors or captains, but it was colonels and above.
	I saw this insertion, this intrusion of political correctness, this idea that They had to say what they believed their political masters wanted to hear.
	Can you talk to us about your experience?
	You said this, you went up the chain of command, you were disturbed by what you saw, there was no response, that's why you wrote the book.
	In your 15-year career, what's the timeline?
	Did things get really insanely bad in the last two years, five years, six months?
	When did you wake up and say, hang on, this is not good?
	Well, like I said earlier, I've been in for over 15 years.
	The first 14 years of my career, I was in the Air Force, was in the flying community and then came into the Space Force.
	Every unit that I've ever been in, all of my professional interactions with people during the preponderance of my career have been highly professional, not politicized.
	We focus on a mission that unifies us.
	We wear the same uniform and we go out and do our job every day.
	And when I noticed, personally, these things really rapidly beginning to change was in the past calendar year, but specifically in the aftermath of George Floyd's death.
	What you saw in broader society in the form of social justice activism pouring into the streets, the disruption of civil liberties, for example, and the dialogue, if you want to call it that, that ensued in the aftermath is the very thing that I saw just spill over into active-duty military units.
	Now I'll be clear that every unit is different, every leader is different, every base is different, but that's when I was really keen on seeing this happen.
	Now I've been in academia for the past two years and so what I'm able to share is simply one man's perception of when this is.
	I left academia in June of last year and came out to my current base and have had these experiences, but it's my sense that the seeds are planted long ago.
	This is a subversive agenda.
	It takes decades to completely unfold, but once the seeds and the soil are properly prepared, then all it takes is the right amount of sunlight and watering and nurture and the right circumstance or crisis to capitalize on for the revolution to get underway, which, as Marx and Engels say in the Communist Manifesto up until a certain point,
	is a veiled civil war or a veiled revolution and they hope to unmask it and make it an unveiled uh... civil war to go for a cold civil war to an actual civil war and so I'm seeing the beginnings of that in this country in my own personal view uh... in the past calendar year and given the fact that you're the only serving officer who's written a book of this ilk
	I know this is hard to answer, but are there other Matthew Lohmeyers, or are there at least people who whisper and say, good for you, Matthew.
	What has been the response from the rest of your colleagues in uniform to what you've done?
	Like I said earlier, I've not heard from my chain of command, either before or after writing the book, specifically about the book, about my podcasts.
	So I can't tell you what their views on these issues are, other than that I've been held accountable for being allegedly politically partisan.
	But what I can say is that since I've been relieved of command, I've had countless service members from across all branches of the military reaching out to me via my website, MatthewLohmeyer.com, as well as by email.
	Some of them happen to get my personal phone number or email address somehow, but I get emails Personally, I get emails on my work email nearly every day of the week, it seems, with people doing precisely what you said.
	They thank you.
	Thank you, thank you for what you've done.
	Thank you for what you're saying.
	Some of them express fear.
	Some of them say, I wish I could speak up about this, but I just can't, you know, whatever their reasons happen to be.
	But it's my sense that if there's any time in American history to not be a coward, it's right now.
	Wow, that's a line.
	If there's ever a time in American history not to be a coward, it's right now.
	Absolutely.
	Matthew, I'm convinced of the fact that the issue, at least when I witnessed it inside the DoD, it was 05, 06 and above that we had real problems.
	When you see political correctness, is there any particular line above which it's worse or is it pervasive?
	Is it a top-down function that you've seen this This indoctrination, or is it everywhere?
	Again, I can only share my personal sense.
	There will clearly be those that disagree with me.
	I've heard others assert certain things that above a certain line, let's say once you get into the general officer ranks, for example, there's an unhealthy emphasis on politics, etc.
	These are not my words, these are the words of others, that causes people to not be able to speak Boldly about some of these issues, let's say that we're facing at the moment.
	My perception is that up and down the chain of command from the highest levels of leadership, all the way down to the lowest ranking airman or guardian in our services, we've, we've truly got exceptional people in every position of every rank who care a great deal about their country, who are interested in taking very seriously the obligation to defend the constitution that they've taken, that they're willing to lay their life on the line for potentially.
	It's my sense that we've got many, many good people at all ranks and levels.
	However, it's also true that we've got people who are subject to the impulse of political correctness, progressivism, the woke culture, the cancel culture, of all ranks, most likely.
	And so in saying that, I'm not pinning down any individual, certainly not anyone in my chain of command.
	Of course, I'm not going to, and I cannot, and I won't.
	I don't want to criticize those in my chain of command or elected officials, but what I see at all ranks indicates to me that people have different beliefs.
	They're uniquely situated.
	Some are courageous and some are cowards.
	But we need more of the former now more than ever.
	MatthewLohmeyer.com.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka, back with the Colonel after these messages.
	Clear.
	Eric, let's put the Colonel's webpage in the bottom.
	MatthewLilmeyer.com. - Uh-huh.
	When you do stuff like that, like the webpage, do you have to go through a PAO?
	Do you have to clear stuff?
	How does it work?
	No, we don't.
	Service members have personal Twitter accounts, Facebook accounts, you know, websites, and people make it clear, they're supposed to, if they're going to be getting political, that it's their own views and not those of the Defense Department.
	They're getting really serious about that at the moment, but historically, service members with social media accounts and websites have never put any kind of a disclaimer on their social media platforms.
	But yeah, you don't need permission to have those.
	And then you said you've got a podcast as well?
	I don't have a podcast.
	I've just been on many other podcasts.
	Oh, you've been on.
	Okay.
	Maybe you should.
	Maybe I should.
	I have to say, it's an excellent book.
	I took it with me over a weekend to read, and it's clear you were very cautious to get everything right, so it's well done.
	Well done.
	Thank you for pointing that out.
	I appreciate it.
	Both not over step bounds and call out people unintentionally, but also to get the details right.
	I'll mention that on the air as well.
	Let's talk about the actual Marxist roots of it next.
	How's the book doing?
	Very well.
	Good.
	Were those jets we heard flying over or was that a truck?
	What was that noise in the background?
	I don't know what it was.
	I've got sound cancelling headphones on.
	We know what's going on.
	I'm oblivious.
	Okay.
	What's the T38?
	Is that a teaching aircraft?
	It is.
	It's a fighter trainer aircraft.
	It's a sorely underpowered dangerous aircraft that is exceptionally fun to fly.
	Is that the one they used in an offensive capacity in Latin America?
	Did they arm it?
	Yes.
	They arm it up.
	They put some wingtip missiles on.
	They call it a different name.
	It's the F5.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	But it needs a bigger engine?
	Yeah, I don't think it'll ever get one.
	They're going to replace it with a different, more powerful, safer trainer in theory.
	But yeah, it's been around a long time, decades.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We need to get you more followers on Twitter!
	Yeah, hey, I'm doing pretty good.
	I only had 18 followers on Twitter before I released my book, so...
	I've never been one for the limelight, I'll say that.
	Well, you got it now.
	Yep.
	You're going out to three million listeners and then all of our video viewers from across the nation.
	Actually, across the world.
	We get called as, what do we get?
	We've had Brazil, Italy, Canada, who else is called?
	Greenland.
	Greenland!
	Tel Aviv.
	Tel Aviv!
	Where was it?
	Well, there was Tel Aviv and there was also Saudi Arabia.
	Oh, UAE.
	UAE.
	I can't know for sure, but we've got a lot of space operators up in Greenland.
	So maybe that's who some of your listeners are.
	You have space operators.
	Greetings, space operators.
	I like that phrase.
	All right, 30 seconds.
	Standby.
	Can you come in with the Millie?
	Millie?
	Yeah, the 8-second one.
	Yep.
	Got it.
	Standby.
	American financing is going to be the read on this one.
	Thank you.
	First of all, on the issue of critical race theory, etc., I'll obviously have to get much smarter on whatever the theory is. .
	Stunning, absolutely stunning testimony from the most senior military individual in the United States, that is General Mark Milley saying, obviously I'll have to get more smarter on critical race theory.
	I've got a book I can recommend to him, especially since he seems to be oblivious to the fact that West Point, the most prestigious military academy in the world, yes Sanhurst is cool, but Worst point has better name recognition, I admit.
	Is Teaching C.R.T.
	Maybe a book we can send to General Milley.
	Is Irresistible Revolution by our very special guest, Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer of Space Force As Was, subtitled Marxism's Goal of Conquest and the Unmaking of the American Military I've read it.
	You must read it to understand what's going on in this nation of ours.
	Colonel Lohmeier, his website is up there on the screen, MatthewLohmeier.com, that's L-O-H-M-E-I-E-R, MatthewLohmeier.com.
	You're very explicit, and I said this in the break to our viewers, and I'm going to say it in front of our millions of listeners right now.
	I eat and drink this stuff, okay?
	As a child of those who escaped communist dictatorship, my father from an actual communist political prison, I've read this stuff from 1848, the Manifesto, Das Kapital, you name it.
	Your book shocked me because you're an operator.
	You're a fighter pilot.
	You're a trainer of our Air Force.
	But the book is so cautiously written in a good way.
	It's professional.
	It is backed up.
	It is solid.
	But to all of those who are unaware of what you've experienced, please explain why you actually focus the center of gravity on Marxism as the problem for things like CRT.
	Explain.
	Okay.
	So one of the things that the reader will recognize if they happen to get through my book is that I spend four chapters getting through both America's founding philosophy, but also, to your point, Marxist ideology for two chapters.
	Before I ever get into, I think it's in maybe chapter five of my book, critical race theory, the critical school of thought, which is almost a century old, Because you can't understand critical race theory properly without understanding its predecessors, like critical theory, which are rooted in Marxist ideology.
	Again, soundbite answers don't suffice.
	And so you have to you have to trace through centuries worth of ideology to get finally to Herbert Marcuse and other founders of There are Frankfurt School Marxists that flee the Third Reich in Germany in the 1930s.
	They come to the United States.
	They found critical theory, and it's essentially the incessant criticism of all things Western tradition, Western values, and it morphs over time into various manifestations, but its most recent manifestation is critical race theory, which is Interestingly, it's most political manifestation, most politically weaponized manifestation.
	And like you said earlier, whereas Marxism earlier was about economic stratification of groups of people into classes, critical race theory stratifies people into groups based on their race identities, and then it demonizes the oppressor class, which happens to be the white race.
	And so I want to share, if I've got just a minute, I want to share a couple of things from a That's getting a lot of attention at the moment.
	It's Ibram Kendi's how to be an anti-racist That books on the Navy's recommended reading list and just a couple of yeah, just a couple of days ago I was on Newsmax with Rob Schmidt and I only had a chance to read one of two quotes from me Ibram Kendi's introduction to that book that that gives someone a peek behind the veil at what it is that he's trying to accomplish there on I'll only recapitulate the first of those quotes which I got out on Newsmax.
	I don't want to steal your thunder.
	I want you to read as many of them as you deem important.
	So the next segment gives us a lot of time.
	This is, of course, absolutely disastrous that this individual who thinks AIDS was invented to attack the black population, who thinks capitalism must be destroyed, his book, Kendi's book, is on the CNO's list of recommended readings, is absolutely an outrage, and we'll find out why next.
	Here on America First with Lieutenant Colonel Matthew Lohmeyer.
	Go to MatthewLohmeyer.com and get his book today, Irresistible Revolution.
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	When were you on Rob's show? - So, Two days ago.
	Okay, I'll find that.
	It was a five-minute segment.
	Okay, that's why you wanted to do this, with us.
	Oh, well, I told them, I said, I got two things to share, and I got through about a half of the first one, and it only took me one minute to get through them, but they're terrible, terrible indictments of the book and the author and critical race theory that attacked the Constitution of the United States, the former commander-in-chief, and essentially associate any of our service members who want to Let's say they supported President Trump, for example.
	They're labeled ipso facto white supremacists in these kinds of books.
	And that's a terrible thing to be teaching.
	Well, first off, it's false.
	But I've got the specific quotes that I'll point out that I think the American people should hear.
	You will have a luxurious seven minutes.
	And then one last short segment of three minutes and then we will release you and we'll send you the video links right after the show.
	Thank you.
	And please, I want to say, you know, God bless you for what you're doing.
	It takes a lot.
	So thank you.
	I'm grateful for your time.
	Has my feed been coming through okay?
	I'm really choppy on my screen.
	Okay.
	No, it's fine.
	Fine.
	The video is fine.
	And the sound is great.
	Good.
	Who's the guy next to Cosby?
	His lawyer.
	Is she got a tattoo that says guilty?
	That is not a good look.
	No, I think it says equality.
	Equality.
	It looks like guilty.
	It does look like guilty.
	Equality.
	No, I don't even think... No, that does not say equality because the L and the T are right next to each other.
	No, it says guilty!
	That's superb.
	Put a short-sleeved dress on with the word guilty on your bicep as you're standing next to Bill Cosby.
	I think that's another legal team member.
	That's genius.
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	Matthew Lohmeier, formerly of Space Force, the author of Irresistible Revolution, Marxism's Goal of Conquest and the Unmaking of the American Military.
	Go to his website right now, MatthewLohmeier.com.
	That's L-O-H-M-E-I-E-R.
	He was on Newsmax with our colleagues.
	He wanted to share evidence of why critical race theory and what the American military is being taught is so bad.
	And you discussed this book, How to Be an Anti-Racist, by Ibrahim Kendi, that is on, incredibly, the most senior naval officer's reading list, Admiral Mike Gilday, who seems to have no problem with that.
	Tell us why this is a book that is, to use the language of the left, Problematic.
	Yeah, I wanted to make the point on Newsmax the other night.
	I only had a chance to make half of it.
	Just how it is that critical race theory manifests in tactics, in method.
	And so there's a couple of great examples.
	If you spend five minutes reading just the introduction to Ibram Kendi's book, How to Be an Antiracist, you'll see first an attack on the U.S.
	Constitution where he First, addresses definitions of colorblindness.
	Now, you'll remember Martin Luther King Jr.' 's dream of colorblindness for this country.
	Ibram Kendi attacks and says it's just a mask for racism.
	And he says that we have a colorblind or racist constitution for a white supremacist America.
	That's the first point I want to make, which is absolutely absurd and incompatible with our service members' oath to support and defend the Constitution if they want to believe that kind of garbage.
	The second thing is, Uh, that Kendi mentions in the book is that if you consider yourself not racist, then you are like the Trumps.
	This is a direct quote, not my words, like the Trumps and other white supremacists in the world.
	I'm going to repeat that.
	If you consider yourself not racist, then you are like the Trumps and the other white supremacists in the world.
	And mind you, this book was published when he was the commander in chief and it was being recommended and showing up at bases.
	While he was the Commander-in-Chief.
	Absolutely politicizing.
	Let me just stop there.
	We'll give you the third point as well.
	So this is from the book the CNO recommended.
	Those are direct quotes.
	From the introduction, from the Chief of Naval Operations, a book which talks about the 45th President, the then Commander-in-Chief, as a white supremacist.
	I'm correct, right?
	I'll give you the direct quote one more time, the Trumps and other white supremacists of the world.
	Yep.
	That's right.
	Incredible.
	Did you have one more quote you wanted to share?
	Well, the point that I want to make now, again, me pointing this out, we've been encouraged to read the book.
	So I'll happily post quotes online and talk on talk shows about what's in the book so that we can all learn.
	The book is divisive because critical race theory was intended to be divisive.
	It was deliberately crafted its language, its vocabulary, its tenets.
	by Marxist revolutionaries.
	Okay, so it was intended to be divisive.
	It destroys morale in our armed forces.
	This is exactly what I wanted to ask you.
	You're reading my mind, Colonel O'Meyer.
	What have you witnessed when it comes to morale when you are being told or you're being encouraged to ingest materials that say a certain skin color is bad, a certain skin color are always victims?
	Have you witnessed a tangible effect on morale?
	Al?
	Yes, I have.
	I'm going to say it this way, just for the sake of time.
	It's a lose-lose scenario for the Defense Department to be teaching this stuff to its service members, because on the one hand, if you buy into it and you believe it, then you're going to potentially lose your desire to serve, to swear an oath, to lay down your life to defend the Constitution, which is a colorblind racist document for a white supremacist society.
	And if, on the other hand, you disagree with this ideology, you are Probably lean conservative, let's say, in your politics.
	And frankly, I don't care what people's politics are.
	If you disagree with the ideology, and there are leftists and rightists that disagree with this ideology, by the way, in academia, then you're also going to be losing your desire to serve in the armed forces, potentially, because this isn't what you signed up for.
	You signed up to do a mission to defend the American people and our allies against our real threats in the world, like, say, China.
	Or Russia.
	Right.
	So you've analysed our enemies, you've studied them, you've gone to one of the most elite war colleges in the United States.
	What do you impute is the enemy response to what's happening with our US military?
	What could they be thinking in the People's Liberation Army of China, in the Russian Federation, in Iran?
	I presume they welcome CRT?
	I presume that they're happy to watch what we're doing to ourselves right now.
	That's my personal view.
	If I was Xi Jinping, and I watched on the news everything we're talking about and spending all of our time and energy arguing about, I'd be pretty pleased, because it's a total, absolute distraction from the things that we should be focused on, which is preparing to fight and win the nation's wars, if called upon to do so, against our real threats in the world.
	As opposed to the chief of naval operations whose job should be to make sure of one thing.
	Our navy, our marines are capable of defeating all America's enemies.
	Instead he's propagating bigoted racist theories from people like Ibrahim Kendi.
	who think that the former commander-in-chief is a white supremacist.
	We are getting to the truth of the matter with the author of an incredible book called Irresistible Revolution.
	Follow him right now on Twitter.
	Matthew Lohmeier.
	Matthew Lohmeier.
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	He deserves far more followers than he has.
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	So what other shows have you done that you enjoyed?
	What other long forms have you done?
	You know, I've only done a few long forms.
	I sat down for an extended interview with Tucker Carlson that showed up on Fox Nation.
	That was about 40 minutes.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, that was fun.
	Meeting people in person is fun.
	And I always like the face-to-face interaction for an interview.
	I think it's better.
	Where did you have to go for Tucker?
	Went to Maine.
	Maine.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And you did one with Governor Huckabee?
	Governor Huckabee was a 15-minute segment.
	They only aired, I think, maybe 10 or 11 minutes.
	So the longest long-form interview that you've done will be with us, I am proud to say.
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	Two quotes to close the show as we return to Colonel Lohmeyer.
	Thank you for taking the time.
	One is from the bigoted and racist Imbrahim Kendi.
	The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.
	The only remedy to present discrimination is fear.
	Future discrimination.
	That's Ibrahim Kendi, how to be an anti-racist.
	Here's another person called the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
	Darkness cannot drive out darkness.
	Only light can do that.
	Hate cannot drive out hate.
	Only love can do that.
	That's at the top of Colonel Lohmeyer's Twitter feed.
	Follow him right now, Matthew Lohmeyer.
	Colonel Lohmeyer, you are a brave man.
	For many reasons, not just because you wear the cloth of the Republic and have taken an oath to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic, but because of the stand you've taken in the last few months.
	We've got just a couple of minutes left.
	I would like you to use this opportunity talking to millions of Americans across the nation, military as well, across the world as well.
	What is your message to those who Think this isn't a big deal or who feel cowed and intimidated?
	What do you say to them?
	There are a lot of people who don't like what they're hearing recently in the news about these issues and understandably so.
	There are organizations, grassroots organizations, that have been created to fight this very thing who can help you understand how to get involved.
	And one such organization is a group of retired military officers who have formed a group, a nonprofit organization and a nonpartisan organization called STARS, S-T-A-R-R-S.
	And their website is stars.us, stars with two R's.
	And there are people active duty and retired that are joining STARS to help fight against critical race theory in our armed forces.
	And I'm grateful for the work that they do.
	The other thing that I think I'd like to say is that this is controversial.
	Do I have one more minute left?
	You have 70 seconds.
	All right, good.
	Anytime you say something like what I'm about to say, I'm sure it can be abused and misused.
	So I'll be very careful in how I say it.
	I've never read Hitler's Mein Kampf, but I've picked it up recently in the past week because I'm interested in learning everything I can about history.
	After spending just a day with his Mein Kampf, The spirit and essence of his race hatred that shows up in that book, a set of two books, is very similar to what I'm seeing show up in how to be an anti-racist.
	And you know the outcomes of this kind of racism.
	When you demonize groups of people, not because of what they've done, but because of who they are, and now in our society, because of their race, accidental genetic inheritance, let's say, You set yourselves up for trouble.
	If we don't abandon this path and come to unity, we will remain divided.
	And that's the kind of path that leads to trouble and violence.
	Fascism and communism are kissing cousins.
	The collective guilt that Hitler used to exterminate six million is what CRT is based on.
	God bless you.
	Go to stars.us with two Rs.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	Phew, just under the line.
	We got it in there.
	Good job, my friend.
	We will continue this discussion.
	And if you can, I know it's a shorter thing.
	It's not long form because of the medium, but it's also another audience.
	We'd love to get you on the TV show sometime if you can.
	I'd be happy to.
	God bless.
	Thank you, Colonel.
	Thanks, Seb.
	Bye-bye.
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	Another slow news day from Tucker Carlson, the National Security Agency, and Bill Cosby.
	Who can we analyze it all with?
	Let's go with our West Coast warrior princess, one of your true favorites.
	She's Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer and The Jen & Don Show on AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	Jen, welcome back to America First.
	Thank you.
	It's good to be here with you.
	It's always one of the best times of the week, you know I tell you that.
	Oh yes, for all of us.
	Because we can get serious but we have fun too, you know?
	We do it both.
	We still, you know, we can do both of those at the same time but I think this first story I have to get your reaction to because You have an identity, as do I, as a media personality who is avowedly conservative.
	You wear your values on your sleeve.
	You're not ashamed of them.
	You don't hide them.
	You don't try and create a fake persona in front of your millions of listeners.
	I'm out of the closet as a conservative.
	You are, which is the toughest thing to do.
	Forget about saying you're homosexual.
	Coming out of the closet as a conservative in media is far, far more.
	Especially in California.
	Oh my gosh, of all places.
	So let's start with this one.
	I told my story at the top of the show.
	I was told after I left the White House about a certain element of the NSA surveilling me and other members of the Trump administration whilst we were in the White House.
	But as a conservative, your reaction as a media personality to the latest accusations by Tucker and this, I read it on the show earlier, this kind of non-denial denial from the NSA, Jen.
	Yeah, I do not doubt these allegations from Tucker Carlson for one minute.
	And I'm going to tell you, maybe 10 years ago, I might have done that.
	I think that, you know, there is this innate want for us in this country, or at least it was there, where we wanted to be able to trust our government.
	And slowly that trust has eroded because, and I really think for our Maybe for our parents' generation, it started with Kennedy and the cover-up around the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
	I think there's been an erosion of trust with the government.
	And I think even a few years ago, I would have said it sounds crazy to imagine Tucker Carlson would tell you that the government is spying on him.
	But look at what we've learned.
	President Trump was called crazy when he said that he was being spied on.
	And it turned out that his campaign was being spied on, and by association.
	All of the people that came into contact, it's like this web.
	Their information gets caught up and they have been spied on.
	So it doesn't for one minute surprise me to think that someone as prominent as Tucker Carlson, even someone like me that is maybe prominent in California, but maybe not as much on a national stage, could get caught up in this because the government sees truth and freedom now, especially under the Biden administration, as the enemy of the state.
	And it's pretty appalling that this is how the swamp operates.
	And the best thing that the presidency of Donald Trump did to this country is to wake us up so that at least we know this is a possibility, that this is happening and has happened in our government.
	And now it's up to us to fight back and say that this is not acceptable.
	So what does it mean for you in your daily life as an avowed conservative on the radio hours every day in California?
	In practice, what does that mean for you?
	How do you react?
	I have a very simple rule.
	I'm not excusing this.
	This is absolutely wrong.
	People should go to prison.
	But I don't have anything to hide.
	And there's a very good reason in the swamp there's a rule.
	Never write down, never send an email or a text that you wouldn't want to see on the front page of the Washington Post.
	But I caveat that by saying I don't talk to journalists.
	I didn't talk to journalists when I was in the White House, when I left the White House, on the record, off the record.
	Unless you're one of the five people I trust in journalism, forget about it because you're bankrupt.
	You are morally bankrupt.
	So does this change the way you look at what you do every day, Jen?
	Well, I think that's probably why we get along so well, Seb, because I'm the same way that you are.
	Look, there are moments where I go, oh, we wouldn't want this to be aired publicly, but truly, you know, I stand by who I am.
	I stand by what I say.
	It's not like I'm trying to be an operative.
	Or something like that.
	I think that the only thing that we can do, I mean, the truth is really what is behind us.
	And I try to operate in that.
	So I don't know if it changes the way I live my life, but certainly it makes you think twice about what you put in writing.
	I mean, gosh, we've talked about this and kind of, you know, maybe in a joking way about maybe running for office at some point.
	You never know what is going to be weaponized against you and I think it's a good reminder that there is always something or someone watching, even if you're not in government.
	I mean, how many times do you give advice to your kids?
	Don't put anything on social media that you wouldn't want to come back and get you.
	So this is, I think, just a reminder of that.
	It's about our government, which we should have a level of trust, right?
	There should be an equal treatment in that government for all of us.
	But I think we know now that that just doesn't exist.
	There is something wrong in the state of Denmark and those institutions have to be ripped apart and rebuilt because Americans, who have nothing to hide and who are patriots, don't trust them anymore.
	Sadly, whether it's the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ or the NSA, they are now political instruments of one political party in this nation.
	We're talking to Jennifer Horne.
	Follow her right now at Jennifer Horne on Twitter.
	Jennifer, the other big story of the day, and I don't know if you have a particular leaning this way or that, but I'm sorry, I've been looking a little bit at this Bill Cosby background.
	We're talking about things that...
	Hollywood really knew it was an open secret.
	Skits were being written about it.
	It spans the 1960s until 2008.
	We're talking about dozens of women, quaaludes, and then finally a sentence, and he served three years.
	Your reaction to the fact that in some kind of surprise decision that nobody heard of, Pennsylvania said, Bill Cosby, you get to walk today!
	Yeah, this one's a really interesting one.
	It hits close to home.
	I don't know if I shared with you, but you know I have a Bill Cosby run in, right?
	You know I have a Bill Cosby story?
	No.
	I haven't told you this?
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	Who booked this guest?
	This is perfect.
	It's actually perfect that we're talking today, and I have some insight about the case as well.
	A few years ago, my dad, who's also in the radio business, if any of you listen to the Larry Elder Show, he's the voice of the Larry Elder Show, and does his own thing.
	We run a business together at CRN Talk, and he met Bill Cosby, and he became friends with Bill Cosby.
	He's a nice guy.
	They bonded over this certain wine that Bill Cosby liked, and my dad sent him a case of it, and they just became friends.
	Did they compare notes on sweaters?
	Who has the better sweater?
	No, my dad is more of a Hawaiian shirt guy, but yeah.
	So Bill Cosby asked my dad to open for him at a local show that he was doing in Cerritos in California.
	My dad was really nervous, but Bill Cosby said, tell him this great story about this wine, this Zinfandel that he loved and how we met.
	And so my dad did that.
	The show was hysterical.
	He's one of the funniest guys.
	I mean, you can't take that away from him.
	He's one of the funniest guys probably walking the planet right now.
	Unfortunately, some really serious things.
	So after the show was over, my dad and we met up and he said, you want to go backstage and meet Bill Cosby?
	Well, of course.
	I'm a child of the 80s.
	I wanted to meet Bill Cosby.
	I watched the Cosby show religiously every Thursday night.
	And so there we were backstage walking past this room and he goes, hello there.
	And he was sitting by himself in a room.
	And he motioned for me to come over and he wanted me to sit on the couch next to him.
	What?
	And so he kind of tapped the couch.
	My dad now was sitting in a chair over to my right.
	And he was trying to engage Bill.
	Bill was actually really interested in talking to me.
	And the next thing I know, Bill Cosby lays down and puts his head in my lap.
	What?
	I can't believe I never told you this before.
	This is – True story.
	Wow.
	In front of your dad?
	He's sitting there in front of my dad.
	Now keep in mind, this is so weird.
	I don't feel like I'm threatened at all.
	He's laying down and he's laying in my lap with his head up and he's talking to me.
	And he was so intrigued by the fact that I could possibly be single.
	He was asking me about what I was looking for and, you know, in a relationship and all this a few years ago.
	And it was asking me all of these questions, right?
	Creepy!
	Creepy!
	You're kind of in that moment where you're talking to Bill Cosby.
	And so I was just having a nice conversation, never felt threatened.
	It didn't even really strike me how weird it was till after it was over.
	So he pops up and he sits down and, you know, hug and goodbye and that was it.
	in the car on the ride home.
	I was like, dad, was that kind of weird that he laid in my lap?
	That was a little bit bizarre.
	And my dad's like, yeah, but I was there.
	It didn't, it didn't even feel weird to him.
	And then literally about, oh, I don't know, two, three, four weeks later, all of these charges started coming out and you started hearing about it.
	And I can understand how he had no boundaries and he had no boundaries with me.
	I never felt at risk, but I also would have never let anything happen.
	And that's what I kind of questioned about some of the women who were in this relationship with him, taking pills.
	I mean, if someone ever handed me a pill and said, take this, I don't care if you're Bill Cosby or the Pope, I'm not going to take the pill.
	And he's admitted to that.
	He's admitted to it.
	He's admitted to that.
	But he thought that was consensual and part of it, I suppose.
	Now, he's a married guy.
	I don't think this says much about his character, obviously, but you have to protect yourself as a woman.
	This is what I would tell my own daughter.
	Protect yourself and make sure you're not in a bad situation.
	Now, with Bill Cosby, he gave testimony that he thought was safe and that he was getting immunity for.
	They used that testimony in a case against him, and now the statute of limitations is over, so he might go without any further punishment because of it.
	What a great guest to have on.
	The full story with Jennifer Horne, host of The Morning Answer, The Jenna Don's Show, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer, back with the warrior princess after these messages.
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	We are back with our good friend in California holding the line, host of the Morning Answer and the Jen & Don Show, AM 590, AM 870 The Answer, also crntalk.com.
	Follow her at Jennifer Horn on Twitter.
	Okay, let's talk.
	We've talked Tucker, We've talked Cosby, let's talk about what's going on in California.
	What's the latest on the recall?
	You've got the signatures, it's gonna happen, but Grusom Newsom's playing funny rules, isn't he?
	This is page, I want you to turn to page three of the Democrat playbook that I sent you for Christmas.
	And if you can't win the fight, you cheat and change the rules, right?
	This is what Democrats did in the 2020 election to President Trump because of COVID.
	That was their big catalyst.
	Well, now Gavin Newsom is up to the same business.
	So, you know, we have a super majority in the state legislature.
	There are like three Republicans in California.
	I'm one of them.
	And then there are two others in the assembly.
	There's your dad, right?
	My dad, that's right.
	All right.
	There's more than three.
	But I will tell you that Gavin Newsom has used the power of the state legislature in his favor.
	A few years ago, back in 2018, they initiated a rule change because there was an assemblyman, his name was Josh Newman, who was up for recall.
	He's a Democrat from Fullerton, California.
	And they changed it.
	They thought he needed more time to beat the recall.
	So they said there needed to be, with any recall, a period of 30 days to do a study on how much the recall election would cost.
	So they put that into effect.
	Josh Newman, now he is still recalled, so it didn't work for him.
	But that same law is on the books today.
	Well, Gavin Newsom and his inner circle feel like the recall needs to happen if the election is going to happen.
	It needs to happen sooner rather than later.
	They don't want another wave of COVID to get in their way.
	They don't want a fire season or a water shortage to get in their way.
	So Gavin Newsom thinks if he's going to survive the recall, it needs to be sooner rather than later.
	So they went back to the legislature.
	And in the cover of darkness, literally overnight, Gavin Newsom signs his new Senate bill that takes away that 30-day budget period and instead just allows the recall to happen probably at the end of August now.
	So think about this.
	For all of those people who are getting ready to get into this race or are already there, they have less time to make their case to the American people.
	And he has really some of the nerve.
	Take a listen to this.
	Newsom and his enablers have changed the rules for their own recall in the middle of the game.
	This is written by Assemblyman Kevin Kiley.
	His top supporter in the Senate said explicitly, quote, if you're forced to fight an unnecessary battle, at least do it on your terms, end quote.
	Now, think about what that means.
	If you're forced to fight an unnecessary battle, clearly it's necessary because millions of Californians put their right... Well, the will of the people.
	I mean, the will of the people is unnecessary, Jen, right?
	Oh, yes, of course.
	The will of the people, just unnecessary.
	And if you do have to fight it, do it on your own terms.
	What kind of message does that send to voters in California?
	If I were any of these candidates who are running, I would take that quote and I would use it explicitly to take down Gavin Newsom.
	There are so many reasons that you could, including the fact that just recently, just over this last week, he lied to California about what he's done for wildfire prevention, using taxpayer dollars that were supposed to be going to wildfires for other pet projects.
	He's also changed the rules, and this is kind of a funny one.
	In 2020, when he was notified that there would be a recall on him, he wanted to make sure that he could put his party preference by his name, because typically in recalls it's not partisan.
	You don't get to say Democrat, Republican, Republican.
	So he wanted to make sure people knew he was a Democrat, because in California that will benefit you.
	Well, he changed that rule, but he never submitted his own paperwork.
	So on the recall ballot, as it stands now, it's just going to say Gavin Newsom with no party preference.
	Hang on, hang on.
	So he wanted to have it changed, but he's so lazy and sloppy he didn't put in his paperwork to tell them which party he's from?
	Correct.
	So he changes the rules, then he doesn't even do the paperwork right.
	So guess what?
	You're seeing stories today, and this is the headline, that Gavin Newsom is suing his own Secretary of State, Shirley Weber, because he wants Democrat added to the ballot.
	That's priceless.
	The guy is unbelievable.
	All right.
	This is shifting sands.
	Right now, is he safe?
	Um, you know what?
	I hear that there is going to be someone big jumping in this race that is going to shake it up.
	I cannot tell you who at this moment, but if it is indeed the case, I think Gavin Newsom has something to worry about.
	When are we going to know?
	Can you give us at least a rough estimate?
	When are you going to blow that big news for us?
	Maybe by the end of the week.
	Oh my gosh.
	All right.
	I can't wait.
	She's Jennifer Horne.
	Follow her at Jennifer Horne.
	Let's talk about BLM and Santa Monica.
	What's going on in Earthwhile Beautiful Santa Monica?
	This is another one of those stories where it seems like the headlines should be fake, but it's not.
	Our friend Joel Pollack at Breitbart says Black Lives Matter sues Santa Monica a year after riots devastate the city.
	Now, Santa Monica was really destroyed during the George Floyd riots last summer.
	Santa Monica is a beautiful place.
	There was graffiti, broken windows, and a lot of these businesses The irony here is that they're minority-run, so a lot of damage was done to the minority community in California, in Santa Monica specifically.
	Well, one year after that, the BLM movement has decided to sue Santa Monica.
	Now, you think, why would they be suing the city?
	Well, they claimed it was too harsh with protesters and that the damage inflicted was actually the fault of the police.
	So... Oh, the police were looting.
	I missed that video.
	Yes, of course.
	Because the police let it happen.
	Are you kidding?
	I wish I were making this up, but it's all right there.
	Officer, I didn't want to mug him, but there were no police officers.
	I was forced to mug him.
	I'm sorry.
	It was happening.
	I just had to loot that store.
	I just had to.
	So not only are they saying that police were too rough on the peaceful protesters, but that they stood by and they allowed these places to be looted.
	And now Black Lives Matter is suing the city of Santa Monica.
	Okay, that's it.
	That's it.
	It's sheer insanity.
	It is bizarro world.
	But read the article.
	Joel Pollock, Breitbart.com.
	We're posting it on our Twitter and Facebook pages.
	I can't wait for that big news!
	Who's going to step into the ring?
	Can he take down gruesome Newsom?
	Find out by following Jennifer Horne at Jennifer Horne.
	She is the host of the Morning Answer and the Jen & Don Show, AM 590, AM 870, The Answer.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker, this is America First.
	Next, your audit update with Jenna Ellis.
	Yes.
	Next, your audit update with your audit update with Jenna Ellis.
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	You've heard me rail, rail against the establishment GOP.
	And of course, we have a very, very good reason today to talk about the elections of last year.
	And here's a statement that was sent to me just before we started today.
	This is from the Republican National Committee Chairwoman Rona McDaniel-Romney released the following in response to the disastrous New York City mayoral race ballot fiasco.
	While Democrats push a federal takeover of elections and Biden weaponizes the DOJ against the state of Georgia, Democrats can't even manage a mayoral race without counting 135,000 fake ballots.
	Correct.
	This is what happens when Democrats run elections.
	Incompetence, fraud, confusion and ballot insecurity.
	Republicans have been fighting for common sense election integrity reforms to prevent the very problems on display in New York City.
	Let's ask somebody who knows.
	She is the chair of the Election Integrity Alliance, former attorney to President Donald J. Trump, and she's our very good friend, Jenna Ellis.
	Jenna, welcome to America First.
	Thanks so much for having me.
	So, let's have a look at what this person, Jenna Ellis, tweeted about this comment.
	Oh, you can follow her, Jenna Ellis, ESQ.
	And this is the retweet.
	Nothing about 2020 and President Trump, question mark, question mark.
	That's how Biden does it, you know, dot, dot, dot.
	Weak is what she tweeted.
	Talk to us about why you made that comment and why it's so symbolic of the last eight months.
	Because the current GOP wants to move forward from Trump, and they want to move forward from 2020 and not acknowledge that we have to get to the truth of 2020 and the disastrous irregularities So that we can correct elections for the future.
	So for Ronna McDaniel to come out and say this and not address the heart of the issue and not speak to what the red-blooded Americans who are concerned and the conservatives and the Republicans are concerned about is, I think, absolutely weak because she's going out and making this statement that really says nothing.
	It just is trying to slam the Democrats and who cares?
	What matters here is that Eric Adams, who's the New York City mayoral candidate, is asking for basically a recount and going, "Wait a second, this doesn't make sense." So my question is, why isn't Twitter suspending him?
	Why isn't Facebook suspending him?
	Because, hey, I thought we weren't allowed to talk about election integrity.
	I thought that he's now an insurrectionist and a traitor and all these other things.
	But he's allowed to do that.
	And now even another candidate is going, "We need to get to free and fair elections.
	Make sure that we have transparency in our democracy." And the New York City Board of Elections, in their tweet and their response statement, is asking all the candidates to be patient.
	Well, where was all of this in 2020?
	Ronna, why can't you address that?
	Because that's what Americans and what your base is so concerned about.
	I think I share this with you.
	If I haven't, I need to share it now.
	After the election, I sat down with the leadership of the GOP, the top person who's not a roner, a super nice guy, and I said, look...
	The only thing that matters, if the GOP ever wants to be in power again, if you ever want to be taken seriously by the American people, only two things matter that you have to demonstrate your commitment to fixing.
	That's big tech censorship and that's election integrity.
	That's all.
	Forget everything else.
	If you don't do those two, the rest doesn't matter.
	I put it to you, Jana Ellis, that since November, since January, we just haven't seen any significant commitment from the GOP.
	Or before 2020.
	Where was the GOP in actually fighting all these lawsuits and putting the money in?
	It was such a disaster that they told the Trump campaign, they told the American people, oh yeah, we've got this handled, we're fighting for election integrity, protect our vote, you know, all of this stuff.
	And a lot of us, myself included, on the Trump campaign were absolutely shocked at the lack of lawyers, the lack of Everything from the GOP that was fighting for this, and since 2020 and since January, what exactly is the GOP doing to fight for election integrity?
	Because they raised a lot of money!
	Oh, and you know what?
	They raised a lot of money, and the Trump legal team never saw a single dime of that.
	That all went to the GOP coffers.
	So if you were sitting here thinking that President Trump and the movement is benefiting from the GOP, that's not true.
	He actually sent a cease and desist letter to the GOP saying don't use my image and likeness to fundraise because what are they fundraising for?
	Not a good sign at all when the man who got more votes than any other president incumbent in history Says the GOP.
	What are you doing using my name to raise money?
	Fix what needs to be fixed first.
	Fight the fights worth fighting.
	Fight the fights like this lady does as chair of the Election Integrity Alliance of which I am a national board member.
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	We have to get to the bottom of what happened last November.
	President Trump at his first rally on Saturday.
	If you haven't seen it, go to our Rumble account.
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	He said something very telling.
	He said, and we're with Jenna Ellis.
	He said, my friends, some good conservatives have told me not to look into the past, to look forward.
	But we need to find out what happened last November.
	And he's absolutely right.
	How are we going to fix this?
	Let's listen to one man who's showing the way at a state level.
	This is A.G.
	Brunovich, who is the Attorney General in Arizona.
	He was on my show on Newsmax, and this is what he had to say about the issue.
	But the states were also supposed to be a check on the federal government.
	And Madison talked about the states zealously guarding the freedom and liberties of their people.
	And so there are AGs out there that are doing that.
	But we need more.
	We need more help.
	And so often now, the mainstream media, academia, higher education, all the stuff that's going on with critical race theory and the 1619 Project, It's all designed to undermine middle America's independence confidence in this greatest country in the world.
	And when they do that, there's all these forces fighting, you know, against you.
	And so it's important for us to stand up.
	And Sebastian, it's important for people to support AGs like myself and some of my colleagues that are standing up and trying to push back against the overreach of Washington D.C.
	Jenna, is this where we're going to win the battle?
	Is it going to be state by state by state?
	What's the answer?
	You're on the front lines.
	Absolutely.
	And the Constitution requires it.
	And this is why the Democrats want to centralize power in Washington, because they want to continue to remove state sovereignty and say that everyone in the swampy D.C.
	Washington beltway gets to dictate to every state how to run their elections.
	That's what H.R.
	1 slash S.
	1 was about.
	And now when the Biden D. O. J. is in Georgia suing over their election law, which, by the way, is actually less restrictive than my own home state of Colorado, which is Democrat controlled, and they're suing over an alleged civil rights issue that is frankly demonstrably offensive.
	to black people to say that somehow they can't get a voter ID just like the rest of us or an identification card when they're trying to now litigate their way into codifying s1 this is where the Democrats are showing they don't want state legislatures to be responsible and fill fulfill their constitutional obligation they want power so that they can be the ones to count the votes and So that they can install whoever they want.
	They don't want free and fair elections.
	They want to choose our leaders for us and that is exactly antithetical to our system of government which is a self-government that says we the people get to select and prefer our leaders from among us.
	There is no ruling class in America.
	She's the host of Just The Truth, also a new contributor with Newsmax.
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	Follow her, Jenna Ellis, ESQ.
	Jenna, what is your response to that law professor who's hardly hardcore MAGA if he's conservative at all, Jonathan Turley, who said with regards to the Georgia case, You know what?
	This could be the biggest own goal that DOJ ever, ever kicked, because this could actually reaffirm the fact that it is states who run the elections.
	So really, bring it, DOJ.
	Do you concur?
	Completely.
	And you know, Jonathan Turley, while politically we disagree on a lot, this is where the law and the rules everyone should agree on, because they're very clear.
	What concerns me, of course, are the judges.
	And we have to make sure that the judges are playing fairly and that they are the genuine referees that are not advocating for either side in terms of activism.
	So, hopefully, if it has to go all the way up, it would go to the Supreme Court that should say, absolutely not.
	This is a state issue.
	It is not for the federal government to get involved in.
	Are the courts the real issue?
	If you inform, if we inject a little bit of courage into the local GOP at the state level, if we inform them of their constitutional responsibilities very clearly to run those elections, couldn't the real stumbling block be these woke judges or just judges who are afraid to tell the truth?
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, tune in at 6 p.m.
	on Independence Day.
	Observe July 5th.
	I'm doing an entire special on Just the Truth.
	It's talking about the brilliance of our Declaration, what we celebrate, also the Constitution.
	I have a clip that I'm going to play of Justice Scalia, who was talking about the independence of the judiciary and why it's so important to keep the political branches in check.
	And he was saying, you know, it's not just about, the greatest thing about our country isn't just all of our rights.
	Banana Republic, in his words, have a Bill of Rights.
	That's not what separates us.
	It is the independence of the judiciary so that the political branches don't get away with corruption and their power grabs.
	And if we don't have an independent judiciary then we have no referees and nobody's required to play by the rules.
	Conservatives will because we're principled and we care and we should and we can't abandon that.
	But that's why the independence of the judiciary matters and we have to advocate for judicial reform and we have to do that because our Constitution gives us a brilliant provision that we the people can do that not only in our home states and we can do that through legislation, through citizens initiatives like in my home state of Colorado, we can also do that through Article 5 in the Convention of States Project.
	It's such an important point that you make, Jenna.
	This is because you hear this a little bit too often on our side that, well, the other side cheats, so why don't we?
	Well, then we're no longer conservatives.
	Then we don't believe in 1776 because that's what separates us from the usurpers, whether it's Nancy Pelosi or King George.
	That is the bright, shining line, and we never, ever cross it.
	Otherwise, we betray our own Follow this lady on Instagram, on Twitter, Jenna Ellis ESQ.
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	I'm an American, so I like July 4th as much as the next man.
	Especially because it's almost exactly the same day of my wife's birthday and the day we got married, so I just have to remember one date.
	It's super easy.
	But let's remember what it's really about and translate it into the context of today and where our freedom stands in the state of the Constitution.
	We're going to do a little tease.
	You've got to watch her show, Just the Truth, former attorney to President Trump, Jenna Ellis.
	But tell us, what are you going to be talking about on July 4th?
	And what is it most?
	That Americans have to remember in 2021 about 1776.
	We have to appreciate that the Declaration is our charter for America.
	It gives us our values, our principles, our recognition of the truth that all men are created equal, we're endowed by God, our Creator, with certain unalienable rights among these life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
	And then it goes on to say that for this reason, governments are instituted among men, and through consent of the governed, they are obligated to preserve and protect our rights.
	And so that charter was what then created, ultimately, the Constitution.
	We went through the Articles of Confederation.
	We went through some other things.
	The Constitution that everybody likes to talk about and everybody likes to appeal to, which is great as our Supreme Law, that's the rule book.
	But we have to go back to our Charter.
	Our Founders weren't in an attitude of rebellion.
	They were in an attitude of appealing in humility to our Supreme Judge of the Universe.
	And so what I want to do through this hour is remind America Why our principles will not change and haven't changed from 1776 to 2021?
	Why?
	Because God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
	The truth doesn't change.
	You mentioned the word humility, and one of the greatest Americans, a very humble man, is your former colleague, Rudy Giuliani.
	You've talked about how you're getting targeted, the truth tellers are being targeted, how none of you got a penny to support the costs of what happened.
	During the investigation of the last election.
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	You've been listening to Jenna Ellis.
	Jenna Ellis ESQ on Twitter, on Instagram.
	Chair of the Election Integrity Alliance.
	Fighting for the truth.
	Host of Just the Truth.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
	If you've missed any segment, go today to rumble.com slash Seb Gorka and keep your head on a swivel.
	Watch your six.
	Hold the line.
	Never give up.
	Never give in.

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