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June 29, 2021 - Sebastian Gorka

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Sebastian Gorka FULL SHOW: Tucker alleges NSA spies on him

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	I'm ready to come in with the video as soon as we start.
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	It was written two days before she was murdered.
	Thank you.
	Where did you find that?
	In this score.
	She must have left it here.
	It's written by somebody called Sergius Fowler.
	Give it to me!
	He said I wasn't an illiterate!
	He said I was going out of my mind!
	You're not going out of your mind.
	You're slowly and systematically being driven out of your mind.
	But why?
	Why?
	Oh, that's wonderful!
	And you thought I was being cool, do you?
	Keeping people away from you.
	Making you a prisoner.
	Oh, you're the kindest man in the world.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	If I were not mad, I could have helped you.
	Whatever you had done, I could have pitied and protected you.
	Because I am mad, I hate you.
	Because I'm mad, I've betrayed you.
	And because I am there, I'm rejoicing in my heart without a shred of pity, without a shred of regret, watching you go with glory in my heart.
	Have you seen the movie Gaslight with Ingrid Bergman?
	It It's where the phrase gaslighting comes from.
	Greetings, friends!
	This is America First with me, Sebastian Gorka.
	No, you are not on the wrong channel listening to the wrong show.
	I played that trailer for that classic movie long before she starred in Casablanca, because we have to discuss gaslighting today.
	Gaslighting is a phrase that comes from that movie, which is about a woman who is exploited by a very, very bad man.
	Who does things to try and convince her that she's going insane.
	Providing her with stimuli that she thinks means that she is insane.
	And that's exactly what the Democrats, the mainstream legacy media, and the Biden administration are doing today.
	And it's a good sign.
	Why?
	Whether it's Democrat politicians, whether it's TV hosts on the mainstream media saying that, oh, critical race theory either doesn't exist, or is a figment of your imagination, or the best of all, Terry McAuley, who thinks he can be the governor of Virginia again, saying, oh,
	That's an invention of Donald Trump and the Republican nominee for the governorship.
	Or whether...
	It's the question of the funding of the police.
	She's no Ingrid Bergman, but she is gaslighting too.
	This is the president, or the man who bears the title of president, Press Secretary Jen Psaki, on who's really responsible for the state of crime in America.
	Video cut nine.
	Something one of the advisors said this weekend, Cedric Richmond, he said, Republicans defunded the police by not supporting the American Rescue Plan.
	But how is it that that is an argument to be made when the president never mentioned needing money for police to stop a crime wave when he was selling the American Rescue Plan?
	Well, the president did mention that the American Rescue Plan, the state and local funding, something that was supported by the president.
	A lot of Democrats who supported and voted for the bill could help ensure local cops were kept on the beat in communities across the country.
	As you know, didn't receive a single Republican vote.
	That funding has been used to keep cops on the beat.
	But at the time, that was sold as these local police departments might have a pandemic-related budget shortfall, not we need to keep cops on the beat because there's a crime wave.
	I think that any local department would argue that keeping cops on the beat to keep communities safe when they had to because of budget shortfalls, fire police is something that helped them address crime in their local communities.
	The White House's argument was the American Rescue Plan is going to be $1,400 checks.
	It's going to be vaccines, vaccinators.
	It's going to put us on the path to beating the virus.
	It did those things as well.
	It was a pretty good bill and piece of legislation.
	Go ahead.
	So it's the Republicans that want to defund the police.
	After more than a year of politicians at the highest level of the Democrat Party, local government officials, mayors saying it is time.
	In New York, de Blasio ripping a billion dollars away from the New York Police Department.
	Whether it's Portland, whether it's out west, Whether it's here, on the East Coast, in Baltimore, the cities where crime is out of control are where Democrat politicians have stripped the local police departments of funding.
	Oh, but because there was some line item in the massive porculus bill that the Republicans refused to agree to, That's the real defunding of the police, my friends.
	That's the definition of gaslighting.
	When they try and convince you that you're the insane person because of their double standards.
	But here's the good news.
	Well, look, there's no good news given the fact that those cities are still a mess, crime ridden.
	We're almost at 80 people shot last weekend in Chicago!
	10 dead!
	80 people shot in Mayor Lightfoot's Chicago in one weekend.
	So that's not good.
	But this sudden volta-fast, this sudden 180 degree spin on these two issues of the bigoted ideology of critical race theory and the policy of defunding the police, which name me one, one Republican politician who said, yeah, we need to defund the police, like AOC, like Rashida Tlaib has said.
	The good news is this, the fact that they've done this about face on these two issues It's only because of one thing and one thing alone.
	They realize they're in trouble.
	This is truly what they believe.
	They do believe that the police is bad.
	That the criminals are the real victims.
	They shouldn't be in prison.
	We have Democrat politicians saying prisons should be done away with.
	No Republicans ever said that.
	And they do believe that America is the problem.
	And if you're white, simply by dint of your skin color, you're an oppressor.
	You could be the poorest, poorest person in Appalachia.
	You could be a two-year-old child, utterly innocent of the ways of the world.
	But if you're white, you're the problem.
	You're the oppressor.
	Not Oprah with her mansions.
	Not Obama with his Martha's Vineyard paradise.
	No.
	You.
	But it's backfired.
	One of the blessings, one of the peculiar positive aspects of the last year is COVID has made people look more closely at what the Democrats are doing and preaching and their actual practical consequences for our people and for this nation.
	And now they want to jettison it.
	Now they want to distance themselves from their own political campaign pillars.
	But you mustn't let them.
	We have to hold their feet to the fire.
	Did you get that?
	Do you understand that analogy, Media Matters?
	You know, Zaky Poo.
	Do you understand?
	Feet to the fire.
	Okay?
	It's the analogy.
	But that's our job.
	Not just me here, in front of a microphone, but every single one of you out there.
	It's time to have them pay the political consequences for the disastrous ideas, policies, and ideologies they have sown.
	They can't get away with distancing themselves from the ideas they propagated for so long.
	We will remind you every single day of what they've done.
	And then it's up to you to spread the word wherever you are, whatever your station in life, wherever you are in your career, whichever part of America you live in, you are part of the solution.
	And if you're not doing anything, you're part of the problem.
	Be a fighter or at least support those who are fighting.
	And that's how we will take our nation back.
	Today, here on America First, John Solomon on the gaslighting, Lord Conrad Black on what we do with China now, America's historian Larry Schweickart, Stephen Moore on the disastrous capitulation by the Republicans on the infrastructure bill, and then my fellow immigrant, one of the newest members of the Salem stable, Dinesh D'Souza.
	Stay on this channel. Stay on this channel.
	Alright.
	Dialing up.
	Mr. Solomon.
	Mic's on.
	All right.
	Dialing up.
	Sir Solomon.
	She said they're stopping now.
	Okay.
	How are you?
	Loud and clear.
	Hey, hey, hey, how are you?
	Loud and clear.
	OK.
	And actually, could you maybe-- we're reframing the shots with the guests on the split screen.
	Can you maybe move a little bit to your right, please, sir?
	My right, this way.
	Yes.
	How's that?
	A little bit more, please.
	Alright, we're gonna move the camera just because I'm on it.
	Yeah, the camera could also suffice.
	Okay, go ahead, Nephi.
	A little more to my right.
	I need to be moving this way.
	Yeah, a little bit over to your right.
	Good job.
	Yep.
	Alright, so what do you guys want to talk about?
	Well, I just played the cut from Saki saying the GOP are responsible for defunding the police.
	So I'd like to talk about media gaslighting.
	I'm sure you have cameras right there.
	How's that guys?
	That's perfect.
	Yes.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Did you see the story we did this morning about how that how you put the lie to that?
	No.
	Good.
	Tell me.
	All the cities after they got the funding from the Democrats, allegedly the Republicans, they defunded the police anywhere.
	Oakland just did it this past weekend.
	Is that on your Twitter feed?
	That's on our site and on the Twitter feed, yep.
	Okay.
	Yep.
	You can blow it away.
	I'll give you the headline here in one second.
	Hang on.
	But what better way to disprove it than after they got the money, they still kept cutting the funding.
	The budgets?
	Yeah, yep.
	Yeah, it's the number one on the spot now.
	It's the number one on the site.
	Democrat claims that you... Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.
	Yeah, it's fun.
	Oakland's a perfect example, but there's a whole bunch of them that did it.
	Excellent.
	Alright, I'm reposting it now.
	Great, great, great, great.
	Exporting the monologue.
	That's real journalism, John!
	So hard to do, isn't it?
	So hard to do.
	Well, not if you try.
	Yeah, not if you try.
	The problem is not if you try.
	Right.
	It's crazy.
	And then we'll talk about, uh, we'll have a little cut from Alejandro Mayorkas.
	We can use that in the second segment.
	Got it.
	Mayorkas.
	Yep.
	That's a cut for All right, anything you want to tease?
	Anything you're working on?
	I have some big ones, but I'm not sure we're going to be getting done before the 4th of July.
	But next week could be a really good week on the China issue.
	We should have a conversation about China next week.
	I'm going to be away, so maybe one of my guest hosts.
	OK, yeah, let him know.
	I'll let him know the day I break it.
	All right.
	We should talk about the Tucker news.
	Let's talk about the Tucker news.
	Yeah, let's talk about the Tucker news.
	40 seconds.
	Standing by.
	Coming in with anything?
	No, I might, yep.
	Caught one.
	Okay.
	Prepared in that case.
	Stand by. Stand by.
	Stand by.
	You know when you've chosen a really good guest to get on the show regularly?
	Is when you say, well, you know, I've opened this show with this monologue on the concept of gaslighting and what the White House has said about defunding the police.
	And your guest says in the break, oh yeah, that's our top story right now on our website.
	He's John Solomon, the creator, the editor-in-chief of justthenews.com.
	Tell us about this article.
	It's at the top of my Twitter feed.
	I want our listeners, our viewers across the nation to read it.
	But what is your response to this incredible, bizarro world moment where the establishment is saying, yeah, it's the GOP that's defunding the police, John?
	Listen, in all of the years I've been in Washington, I've been here 30 years, this is one of the most dishonest political attacks I've ever seen.
	First off, it's pretty hard to make the case that because Republicans didn't vote for a stimulus bill, and then mayors cut police budgets, that somehow the Republicans, by the way, Democrat mayors are responsible.
	But it's a lot worse than that.
	It's actually demonstrably false.
	We had three stimulus bills.
	Lots, billions upon billions of dollars went to blue cities, particularly in the last bill.
	After those cities got money from the stimulus, they cut the police department anyways.
	Oakland just did it this past week.
	Los Angeles, San Francisco did it.
	Philadelphia froze a budget despite rising crime, which is essentially with inflation and rising crime, a budget cut.
	All those blue cities took those actions after they got the Democratic stimulus money.
	Democrats were defunding the police whether they got money from the federal government or not.
	It's irrefutable.
	And those journalists who haven't pointed it out in the mainstream media ought to be ashamed of themselves.
	This is a basic follow-the-money story.
	And the follow-the-money debunks what the Democrats are saying and what Joe Biden is saying.
	I think I ask this question almost every time you're on the show.
	But what does it mean, John?
	It's fascinating.
	This is a real snapshot of the state of media in America.
	That at justthenews.com, this is your top story.
	But what does it mean that everywhere else, it's not a story?
	Yeah, well, it's the silence of the lambs, right?
	The media have become absolute lapdogs and lambs for one political philosophy and they're turning our country into a state-run media.
	The Democrats control the media and it's bad for us, but the great part is We live in, at least right now, a mostly censor-free society, and other sides can now get out through social media, can get out through platforms like what you've built, Seb, and what I've built at Just the News, what others have built.
	So you can't silence the truth from coming out, but it has to come out from institutions that weren't here five years ago.
	And what's happened is the traditional media have ceded this ground to new news organizations because they have willfully neglected their duties as fact-gatherers.
	Yeah, let me just comment on that reality because we interviewed the President, President Trump, here a few weeks ago as a result of what he said.
	Google has demonetized my website.
	My website, SebGorka.com, cannot get Google Ads anymore.
	So that's the state of play in a so-called free market.
	We're talking to John Solomon, the author of Fallout, Nuclear Bribes, Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dynasties.
	Let's talk about what should be one of the biggest stories in the media, if not the biggest right now.
	Let's listen to an accusation made by Tucker Carlson of Fox last night.
	Cut one.
	It's not just political protesters the government is spying on.
	Yesterday we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S.
	government who reached out to warn us that the NSA, the National Security Agency, is monitoring our electronic communications and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take the show off the air.
	Now that's a shocking claim and ordinarily we'd be skeptical of it.
	It's illegal for the NSA to spy on American citizens.
	It's a crime.
	It's not a third world country.
	Things like that should not happen in America.
	But unfortunately they do happen and in this case they did happen.
	The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails.
	There's no other possible source for that information, period.
	The NSA captured that information without our knowledge and did it for political reasons.
	The Biden administration is spying on us.
	We have confirmed that.
	Let me confirm the following, John, and then I'll allow you to react unfettered.
	Just after I left the White House, some very well-placed individuals, former military with connections to the intelligence community, informed me that as a U.S.
	citizen, I was surveilled, along with my colleague Steve Bannon, when we were in the White House, As presidential appointees by an element of the National Security Agency called the TAO, the Tailored Access Operations Division, which is the biggest cyber hacking division inside the NSA.
	These stories, John, should be stories, but they're not.
	And is this not another piece of evidence of just how morally bankrupt the legacy media is?
	Well, listen, the fact that the media is ignoring Tucker Carlson's claim is, again, journalistic malfeasance, journalism ignorance.
	It's easy to find out what's going on.
	Listen, we know since the Russia scandal, and I'm going to take you back to earlier in my career when it began, but during the Russia scandal, we know that you could get an American talking to a foreigner And it could show up in an intercept and someone like Susan Rice can go, hey, I need that American's name on mask.
	And basically, you could monitor what an American was talking about overseas.
	Now, let me take you back to very early in my career.
	2002, the FBI intercepted a package of mine that was coming from the Philippines, and they did so without a warrant.
	They acknowledged it was illegal, ultimately gave me my mail back, but it was something mailed.
	We later learned, because back then we didn't even know of the NSA program, We later learned that the FBI was sitting on my phone calls to the Philippines, intercepted my conversations, and then were able to figure out how to pick off my package, by the way, without a warrant, a very illegal act.
	The idea that we have any conversations that the NSA can't pick up overseas is a false safety.
	They can pick up, and they do sweep up all conversations.
	Then the question becomes, when can they unmask and look at some documents, and the answer is at least during the end of the Obama years, quite often.
	- Stop there for a second, you're breaking up.
	Start again the sentence on unmasking, John. - Listen, once the NSA gathers your phone calls, and by the way, it gathers all phone calls overseas, someone can easily ask to have something unmasked to look at it for national security reasons.
	It is a loathe for someone to look and say, I wanna see that presidential advisor's conversation with that diplomat, or I wanna see that journalist's conversation with that foreign leader That's what's so problematic about the NSA program.
	They gather everything, and then people can pierce that secrecy whenever they want.
	Is it time for a church commission?
	Is there anything that will be done to address these issues as long as those being surveilled are in the minority politically?
	That's a great question.
	Listen, it used to matter to everyone.
	Liberals used to be the party of anti-surveillance.
	They used to be the party of privacy.
	Now they seem to be the pro-party of surveillance.
	Adam Schiff hands out phone records like they were candy on Halloween.
	My phone record's among them.
	It seems as though the party of the left has abandoned its traditional liberal values of keeping Big Brother out of our lives.
	It'll be very interesting to see if this Dr. Carlson story continues to develop.
	And whether the media cover it and whether anyone takes action.
	It's truly stunning.
	It's just two generations ago, these individuals were the counterculture.
	They hated the man.
	Now they're not only the man, they like it when the man does things that are illegal and unconstitutional.
	He's the founder of justthenews.com.
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	He'll be back with us after these messages.
	So mics are still hot on Rumble.
	You want me to hang up and dial back?
	No, he's fine.
	I think it's okay.
	So I didn't know that Philippine story.
	So whatever happened?
	Did you get any redress?
	Oh yeah, eventually the FBI ultimately apologized and they put new rules into place to make sure that other journalists wouldn't happen.
	This happened during the Bush administration, very early on.
	Robert Mueller was deeply involved on both ends of it.
	First he signed a That was why he was still Deputy Attorney General.
	Then he became FBI Director and he authorized the seizure of my package, which at the time we didn't even know the NSA program existed or they could listen in to your phone calls overseas.
	We learned about the package, got the FBI to return it, apologized in 2003, a year after it was taken.
	And then I learned in 2006 after the NSA program became public, FBI officials told me, well, that's how we knew how to get your mail.
	Was it a contact related to a story or was it just general surveillance?
	I was talking to the Philippine National Police chief.
	On the record, in an interview, he had a document, by the way, that was non-classified.
	It had been in a court record for many years, but it was embarrassing to the FBI, because it showed it knew of these emerging threats on airlines.
	And so when he mailed it to me, the FBI intercepted it, not because it was classified, but because it was embarrassing.
	Wow.
	What a remarkable story of abuse.
	And 20 years later, we're still seeing those abuses.
	They've gone unpunished, mostly.
	Incredible.
	Yeah, let's dial him back.
	Let's dial you back, John.
	It's skipping a little bit.
	Standby.
	Coming in with that audio you requested.
	Thank you.
	Hello.
	Hello.
	Hang on one second, guys.
	How about now?
	Can you see me?
	Yep.
	We can see you.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	Check, check, check.
	Everything sound good?
	Sounds pretty good.
	OK, let's hope it stays.
	All right.
	Two minutes to air.
	All right, good.
	Yeah, we've had some construction in our studio here today, so hopefully we didn't disrupt any wires.
	Always worry about that.
	I might, if we have time, I might tee out before, but we'll see.
	My Orcus, yeah.
	My Orcus.
	It's 30 seconds long.
	He's a verbal gift that keeps on giving, the Secretary, isn't he?
	What a piece of work.
	The administration has a lot of those, I guess.
	It's an interesting group, it really is.
	There's a lot of freelancers, people that kind of speak their mind without coordinating with the rest of them, and it's going to be interesting to see how that plays out over time.
	And it's interesting that there's so few of the top-tier, apart from Rice, there's no top-tier Obamaites who went back in.
	It's all the second and third level.
	It is.
	It was all the deputies in the last one that came in.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, there's a remarkable tension going on between, you know, the traditionalists in the Democratic Party and the progressives who are now increasingly distrust Joe Biden already.
	I think the inner war of the Democratic Party is going to become the story of 2022.
	I really do.
	Interesting.
	All right.
	We'll discuss.
	All right.
	Great.
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	And we are back with John Solomon, who's making some fascinating comments in the break about how there seems to be tension in this administration, a lot of loose cannons doing their own thing.
	One of them is the Secretary of Homeland Security, who made this very offhand comment about where Kamala isn't going to visit.
	Cut for...
	Mr. Secretary, why not visit Fort Bliss, which is just 10 miles away and has hundreds of unaccompanied migrant children, reportedly in very difficult conditions?
	The Vice President and the President directed Javier Becerra, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, to visit Fort Bliss, which is under his responsibility, and he's doing so today.
	It was just 10 miles away.
	Why not include it on the Vice President's trip?
	Well, you know, we had quite a bit to see.
	Well, we had a quite a bit to see.
	John, is that a convincing response from the point of view of somebody who wants answers?
	Yeah, no, it's the classic dodge from Washington, right?
	We were too busy to check on all those children we stuffed into the facility during this open border time.
	You know, the great thing is the American people can see right through that.
	Just like two weeks ago, Majorca said, we don't have an open border.
	Well, the Border Patrol people really disagree with that concept.
	Uh, and, uh, you know, I think he was defending, uh, Kamala Harris's giggles and laughs and during important world moments.
	Uh, you know, the great thing is that the more of those questions get asked, the more the American people see through this administration.
	It's sort of thin answers and sometimes it's thin experience.
	I mean, there is some backbenchers and very important, uh, uh, roles in this administration.
	And I think over time we're going to see the consequences of that.
	So you were saying in the break that this could be a big story for the coming year, not just the... Already we're seeing the factionalisation, the leaking between Team Biden and Team Kamala, but you're thinking it could be between old school and the more radical?
	I think that's true.
	I don't think AOC and the Squad are going to hold their powder much more.
	They've been eking out a little bit more of their frustration and, you know, there is a very large divide in this party that the traditional honeymoon that every new president gets masks for a while.
	But the left does not like where Joe Biden has landed on some of these things.
	And the infrastructure bill, I think, could be the bugle sound where people start fighting in their own party.
	And I think you've got to watch the progressive left.
	They are very dissatisfied with the pace and the expanse of Joe Biden's policies.
	And we all think they're pretty liberal.
	Just think about where they want to go, how much further the left wants to go.
	I think 2022 may be the Civil War year.
	And what happens then with the lapdog coverage by the left-wing legacy media?
	Will that all change at that point?
	between the new left and the traditional liberals. - And what happens then with the lapdog coverage by the left-wing legacy media?
	Will that all change at that point?
	Will they be forced to pick sides, John?
	- Well, it'll be hard to ignore Let's say, let's suppose that AOC and her team starts to primary traditional Democrats like they did in 2018.
	They knocked out in 2018 and 2020 some famous long-term Democrats.
	If that happens, the media will almost certainly cover it.
	And I think, you know, there are many in the news media that are more on AOC's side than they are on Joe Biden's side.
	And so it'll be interesting to see the political true colors of reporters come out as this A gap between the two sides of the Democratic Party widens and becomes more intense.
	So no more questions about ice cream.
	In the meantime, get your real journalistic coverage, real investigative journalism at justthenews.com from John Solomon and his colleagues.
	And check out his book, Fallout, Washington Nuclear Bribes, Russian Spies and the Washington Lies that Enriched the Clinton and Biden Dinners.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
	This is America First.
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	Alright, what did you want to say?
	Let's see here.
	Titles.
	Thank you.
	Dinesh.
	Yeah.
	Oh no, uh, John.
	Alright.
	Okay.
	Ready for the Democrat Civil War question mark.
	And then, um... Dinesh and or Monologue.
	Monologue.
	What is gaslighting?
	And Dinesh.
	And Dinesh.
	Hang on.
	Gwen Berry and the Olympics.
	Okay.
	Got it.
	Yep.
	Thank you.
	Actually, I'm a woman who knows how to stand up and speak up for my right.
	As a woman, I have a right to feel comfortable without a man exposing himself, okay?
	No, you go somewhere else!
	Okay, so that's right.
	No, he's not a transgender.
	He has a penis, just like you do.
	Are you, are you, are you, are you?
	No.
	Yeah.
	Okay, it's not okay.
	It's not okay.
	Okay, that's traumatizing to see that.
	I'm a woman.
	That's a man because he has a penis and I'm a woman.
	It's happening and that's not in Texas.
	That's a black customer at a spa in Los Angeles who finds out a man is naked next to her in the changing room.
	A man who, what, what did he say?
	He's a woman on that day?
	And then what happens, of course?
	It's a woke, white man who's lecturing to her, saying, well, well, you can't do that.
	I mean, he's transgender.
	Not if he's got a male member, he's not transgender.
	You can't change your chromosome count.
	It is physically It is scientifically, it is empirically impossible.
	Type that up, Media Matters and Little Zack.
	I feel so sorry for Zack.
	He has to watch me for three hours a day.
	I hope you do all the other stuff.
	Do you monitor my social media as well?
	Dear Lord, you must be a sad individual.
	But it's happening.
	And you know what the really important thing is there?
	It's the underlying dynamic.
	That when it's the wokest of the woke who say they're fighting for transgenderism, they're fighting for minorities, who is it that really does it?
	It's the loud, obnoxious, entitled, middle-class white Americans.
	It's not the people who are meant to be represented.
	It's the entitled white Americans.
	That's the reality.
	Okay, we're going to go to your cause in a moment.
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	Peter Orlando, line one.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hi, how are you?
	I am good.
	Good, good.
	I wanted to call today because, you know, we all realize as a conservative, Republicans, and whatnot, that we always have to fight the liberal left.
	Things are going so out of hand.
	And it becomes a little bit ridiculous with our approach to paint our... to oppose the left.
	The problems now... You're not being very clear.
	What is your criticism in one sentence, Peter?
	Well, the problems become so critical.
	I don't even see the problem as opposition to the left.
	All liberals.
	It's the Republican Party that seems not to be on our side, I guess.
	I agree.
	It's both.
	It's both.
	It's the crazy liberals.
	Stop.
	It's both.
	And I say that every single day.
	It's the left that hate America.
	And it's the establishment GOP that facilitate them.
	It's both of them.
	After 2020, I'm having a very difficult time loving myself but to walk to the polls to vote for any Republican.
	Well, then you're being un-American.
	You've got to beat them first.
	We've got to beat them first.
	Peter, Peter, we have to beat them first.
	Do you understand that?
	And we did that in 2020.
	And we've got to do it with better candidates.
	We've got to have better candidates, and we've got to primary the swamp.
	More Matt Gaetz's, more MTG's, and then we will have less and less Mitt Romney's.
	But we don't say we don't vote, because when we say we don't vote, guess what happens?
	The left win without doing anything!
	And I'm not going to let that happen.
	Let's go to Phil Philly.
	Welcome back, Phil.
	Dr. G, we love you here in Philly.
	I just had a quick comment.
	The communists never stopped waging war against America.
	They couldn't beat us in a cold war or a hot war.
	They're waging the silent war and it's all part of the long game.
	The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.
	We need to get back to the basics and get elected to the school boards so we can control curriculum.
	They have poisoned our children and our children over the last few decades have become the teachers and the professors at our universities.
	They are letting the pigs feed on themselves is what they're talking about.
	Absolutely right.
	We love you in Philly, Doctor.
	We have a little listening club.
	We love you here in Philly, man.
	Good!
	Well, I better come.
	I want to meet my little listening club in Philly.
	I love Philly.
	Let's make that happen.
	You are so right.
	Stay on the line, Phil.
	I know you're a regular listener, but if there's any one of our books you haven't received, let's send Phil five copies of The War for America's Soul for his listening club.
	That's the way we do it, because we love Philly.
	And you're right.
	It's time to take back the school boards every single county at a time.
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	Let's go to Richard Westchester, Pennsylvania.
	Welcome to America First.
	Good afternoon.
	I'm 66 years old, so I don't have any kids, but I went to the Westchester, Pennsylvania school board meeting last night, and they, of course, bussed in a lot of lefties, but there were a lot of parents there.
	Everything was well-behaved.
	There was no going back and forth.
	I plan to go every month, but I get an email today from the Westchester Democrat Party saying that It's time to take politics out of education.
	So they don't like pushback and they're getting scared, so I say press them even harder.
	Good!
	So what was the meeting like?
	How spicy did it get?
	Well, it didn't really get spicy.
	Everybody, you know, in the beginning, the first speaker of the parent group that did not want critical race theory, They started to jeer him, and half the room turned around and said, shut the hell up.
	And Ben Sameth, they didn't shut the hell up.
	Wow.
	And actually, the rest of the meeting went very quick.
	But they keep saying, we don't teach critical race theory.
	We teach equity.
	You know, the major codeword.
	That's the codeword.
	Equity is the codeword.
	God bless you, Richard.
	Be there every single time.
	Let's give Richard a signed copy of Why We Fight.
	Lance in Ohio, line one.
	How are you doing, Dr. G?
	Good!
	Hey, the reason why I'm calling is about the color you had on a little while ago and he was saying how he was being discouraged on going to the polls and we need less people like that.
	I mean, you know, everybody falls.
	No, and it's exactly what the Democrats want.
	They want you to be demoralized.
	They want you to sit at home and think that nothing can be done.
	It is.
	It's the Rocky motto.
	It's the American way.
	No, and it's exactly what the Democrats want.
	They want you to be demoralized.
	They want you to sit at home and think that nothing can be done.
	It is.
	It's the Rocky motto.
	It's the American way.
	It's how you react to being knocked down, how you get back up and how you destroy them politically at the next possible chance.
	It's about you volunteering.
	It's about you running.
	It's about you helping somebody fight.
	And it's about cleaving to the truth every single time until the radicalized Democrat party is a memory, is a rubble.
	And we get back to a normalized two-party system, not one party run by flipping maniacs.
	Thank you, Lance.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
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	Thank you.
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	Good, good, good, good.
	How's things?
	Fine, thanks.
	Is it as hot there as it is here?
	Yeah, it's a scorcher.
	Oh, my gosh.
	The real temperature here is 103.
	It's outrageous.
	I don't think I've ever felt heat like Washington in the summer.
	I've been in Vietnam.
	I've been in Timbuktu in the summer.
	I've been all over the place, but I never felt heat like that.
	Yeah, the humidity is the killer.
	Stand by.
	20 seconds.
	We'll discuss China.
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	You're listening to America First with Sebastian Gorka, former strategist to President Donald J. Trump. -
	But given what we know about the changing climate, given that we've seen an increase in the so-called extraordinary tides and the impact that that can have in areas like South Florida, do you think that climate could have played a role in that building's collapse?
	Well, obviously we don't know fully, but we do know that the seas are rising.
	I mean, we know that we're losing inches and inches of beaches, not just in Florida, but all around.
	You know, Lake Michigan, where I'm from, you know, we've seen the loss of beaches because the waters are rising.
	Truly, truly remarkable.
	That is the Biden cabinet member, Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm, saying that climate change, the weather, may be responsible for the deaths of at least 100 people, or hopefully they're still just missing, in a building collapse in my That is the level of alternative universe we find ourselves living in.
	Let's talk to somebody who lives in the real world.
	He's a presidential historian, financier, author of A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, and our good friend, regular guest here on America First.
	Lord Conrad Black, welcome back.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Sebastian.
	I'm afraid that as a Canadian, I must take some responsibility for Governor Granholm's.
	She was from Canada originally.
	And I'm afraid the cold weather must have got to her in her youth to come up with nonsense like that.
	But really, I mean, a pundit on television may be who's just trying to gain attention, but a cabinet member, it truly does beg a belief, does it not?
	It does, but look, Bernie Sanders, every storm that came up for years, he said, oh, it's global warming, as if we never had tropical storms before, you know?
	Right.
	And what Jennifer Granham said is rubbish.
	The water level isn't rising.
	I mean, according to those people, Venice would be underwater by now.
	The country of Tuvalu, an island in the Pacific, that would be underwater.
	Their water levels haven't changed at all.
	No.
	It's just a load of codswallop.
	I mean, odd things are happening, but The answer is intensified research, not throwing everybody in the oil business out of work because we think we'll stave off the end of the universe by putting up windmills and solar panels so we buy from the Chinese.
	And Codswallop is the right word for it.
	And you mentioned the word Chinese.
	Let's talk about your latest piece.
	I have enjoyed it immensely at one of our favorite websites, American Greatness, amgreatness.com.
	We're posting it right now.
	Very simple title, and it's a very factual one, China versus America.
	Personally, my journey on this topic was caused, was thanks to my time in the White House.
	I went in as a counter-terrorism bod, working that issue for years as a civil servant in the Defense Department, but I realized once I was in there, once I had the clearances, read the intelligence, that we can deal with ISIS, we can contain Russia, North Korea, even Iran, but the only strategic threat we face is China.
	And let me just Open with the first sentence from your piece.
	The longer the West placates China and pretends that it is not being aggressively challenged by China and is currently losing that challenge, the more the future of the West will be in doubt.
	Will you talk to us from your perspective as an observer of presidential administrations, how the disequilibrium has been affected by the last five months of the new administration?
	Well, it really started with, and I have to, as I have done before, give the Chinese credit for improvisation.
	I do not believe that they deliberately propagated the coronavirus knowing that it would kill a lot of their own people.
	I think it escaped from that laboratory in Wuhan.
	But as soon as they saw what they had, they cracked down on it as only a totalitarian country can domestically.
	But misled the rest of the world about the extent and communicability of it and the effects of it, and did absolutely nothing to restrict its transmission to all the rest of the world from, you know, just normal travel out of China.
	And they must have calculated that it would cause absolute mayhem in the West, but they cannot have imagined that their great rival
	In the West, all of the major Western countries would shut themselves down conveniently, take themselves out of the competitive economic marketplace for the better part of a year, and as a bonanza, a bonus, evict, albeit by questionable electoral methods, but that's no account of the Chinese, the one person in the world who was really pointing out that China was a challenge.
	And President Trump was not saying they're wicked people, they're evil people.
	He wasn't making racial comments about them.
	He was just saying they are challenging the West.
	They're not living up to their commitments as trading partners or in monetary policy.
	And they're just picking our pockets and running roughshod over some of the neighboring states.
	And we've got to do something about it.
	And they were, of course, the puppet master behind the North Koreans all these years, purporting to agree with us that North Korea was a danger, while in fact facilitating its antics.
	And we all wanted to believe that if we just treated them nicely, they would behave nicely.
	And ultimately, that will be true if you know when to stand up to them.
	But it's the lesson of appeasement.
	Now, I'm not comparing the Xi Jinping government to Hitler's Reich.
	I'm not doing that, and it would be outrageous to do it.
	But there are some similarities in that it is a rising power flexing its muscles, and it will take what it can get until until it meets a wall of containment, as Stalin did, and a very intelligent policy set up by the Truman administration to contain the Soviet threat.
	And ultimately, as we all know, as all the world knows, the Soviet Union disintegrated.
	International communism collapsed without a shot being fired in anger between the superpowers.
	Well, I don't think it'll come to that.
	I think the Chinese are more sophisticated than that.
	And that's a much less severe regime than Stalin's was, too.
	But I think the principle of avoiding appeasement of a formidable challenger while he is challenging is the lesson, the relevant lesson of great power relations on that subject.
	And we're still doing it.
	And we have, in effect, rewarded
	Their outrageous conduct, which could be construed as bacteriological warfare, negligence in public health terms to the extent that it could be so described, and not really rubbing their nose on that fact and making it clear that it absolutely cannot happen again and there will be grave repercussions if anything like that happens again, we're in effect inviting them to
	You know, tumble down on the successes like that.
	It worked the first time, why not another time?
	Yes, and in your piece for American Greatness, you put this strategic challenge in the context, or you compare it with Wilhelmine Germany, with the Third Reich and the Stalinist regime of the Soviet Union, but you say it's not the same.
	What is the most significant difference that should affect our policy and the West's policy to this strategic threat?
	Well, with Kaiser Wilhelm, we were dealing with a man who had much more power than judgment.
	I don't think he was an evil man.
	He was just reckless and had a childish ego and didn't have the faintest idea what he was getting into and what he was plunging all Europe into.
	With Hitler, we were dealing with a psychopath and, in his way, a romantic mind to an extent of fantasies.
	And genocidal ambitions.
	I mean, he was a wicked, evil man.
	And he liked war.
	He enjoyed World War I. He went through all four years of it.
	He was wounded.
	He was gassed.
	He was decorated for bravery as a corporal.
	He wasn't sitting behind the lines, miles from the front.
	He was a runner right in the front lines.
	And he liked war.
	And that was what we were dealing with, and the only way we could have stopped him would have been if, in the 30s, the other countries had all joined together to make it clear that he couldn't win a war if he started it.
	And that only became the fact after he impetuously declared war.
	First, he launched an aggressive war against the Soviet Union, and then he declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor, even though he didn't have to.
	And the consequences, as we all know, was the complete destruction of Europe yet again.
	In the case of Stalin, he was a much more rational person in terms of how he dealt with other world powers.
	He never launched an aggressive war other than the limited war he launched against Finland, which was not terribly risky for him.
	He was always trying to stir up revolutions and strangle places that were vulnerable, West Berlin, for example.
	Yes.
	But he knew not to challenge the United States.
	I'm sure that China is more... there's nothing Wilhelmic about China.
	We will discuss what to do next about this still strategic but different kind of threat with Lord Conrad Black, co-host of the podcast Sense and Intelligence.
	I'm Sebastian Gawker.
	This is AmericaFest.
	So what took you to Timbuktu?
	I don't know.
	I was actually going to visit, if they know this is an odd story, but the Cardinal in Montreal, Cardinal Léger, he's quite a renowned man in Canada, and his brother was the Governor General of Canada.
	He retired as Archbishop of Montreal and moved to the Cameroons.
	So I knew him a bit, and he invited me to visit him.
	And I did, and while I was there, I went to Timbuktu.
	And it was hot!
	But as I say, it wasn't as hot as I remember Washington at the time.
	Was it worth the visit?
	Was Timbuktu worth the visit?
	I wouldn't have gone all the way there to see it, but since I was relatively close, it was definitely worth the stop there, yes.
	It's just such a legend, you know?
	So he was the Cardinal, and his brother was the Governor General?
	That's right.
	Fascinating.
	He had been a diplomat, ambassador to France and other countries.
	And they were a remarkable pair.
	Quite a family.
	Quite a family.
	Their father was a grocer in Saint-Anicet, a little town near Montreal.
	And he had these two sons and they achieved these huge positions.
	Wow.
	Not just Margaret Thatcher.
	Well, Sebastian, there's something I would like to ask you at some point.
	Can I phone you out of hours?
	Absolutely.
	Yes, absolutely.
	When is convenient?
	I have a telephone conference call after work till about 7.30 our time.
	Then I have to do a TV hit at about 8.
	Would 9 o'clock our time be too late?
	I would be fine.
	Would you mind giving me the number?
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	Yes.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Good response.
	How long do you do it for?
	Do you do like an hour?
	Yeah, about 45 minutes to an hour every other week we are right now.
	Can you come in with that cut?
	The China cut?
	Yes.
	Great.
	One minute.
	Well, Sebastian, as far as I can see, the Crime, wave, the inflation threat, and the open border in the South, these are all just absolute open arteries politically.
	And then the parents every day and the teachers waking up to the indoctrination in the schools.
	You're getting the public really involved now, which is dangerous if you're the incumbent.
	And the, you know, it just seems to me, you know, the Harris's visit to El Paso was farcical.
	It was farcical, yeah.
	And the president's speech on crime was farcical.
	Yeah, stand by.
	Stand by.
	Ten seconds.
	And, you know, they're just not facing it.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	Stand by.
	So let me say here that in front of the Chinese side, the United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength.
	It's incredible, absolutely stunning, the so-called China-US summit in Anchorage, where our Chief Diplomat talks pablum for a few minutes and then gets read the right act for 20 minutes by the Chief Communist Diplomat, using Democrat talking points about Black Lives Matter, racial tension, and then saying very clearly, you cannot, you do not have a position of strength to lecture us.
	That's what we are analyzing with the author of the latest article, China vs. America.
	He is Lord Conrad Black.
	Lord Black, that doesn't sound like a nation that is going to stay in its box to me.
	It's a nation that is showing the world its contempt for the rival it is challenging.
	They don't care what Secretary Blinken thinks of anything.
	They were doing that as a statement to the world that we do not have to accept or take seriously complaints from the United States anymore.
	We are surpassing them and we are the future and they're the past.
	That's what it said.
	What is?
	You see, we were talking earlier about Imperial Germany and Nazi Germany and Soviet Union.
	The Chinese are much more sophisticated, I think, than any of those, and not insane as Hitler clearly was and Stalin substantially was.
	But broadly speaking, the position is the same.
	You have the leading power in any country that gets up at all close to it and imagines that it's the alternative leading power, gets these strange fantasies about how easy it will be to surpass it.
	The most innocuous example we saw of it was with Japan.
	We're not challenging the military level, but you'll recall about Forty years ago, or thirty years ago, they were an extremely serious economic challenger to the United States.
	And then they sort of abruptly collapsed.
	But there was that occasion when President Bush, the elder President Bush, went to Tokyo, and the Prime Minister greeted him in condescending words, not insulting.
	As the Chinese foreign minister was to Secretary Blinken, but condescending.
	These are not good times for you.
	We all know what happened.
	The Japanese misplayed it.
	They became overextended economically, and they had a very prolonged recession.
	And there's not been a word about a Japanese threat to the Americans economically since then.
	China is oversimplifying it.
	And the only basis on which China, in my opinion, ultimately could pose a really dangerous challenge to American paramounts, say, let's say, preeminence, is if we drive the Russians into the arms of the Chinese and they effectively rent out the resources of Siberia that they've never been able to tap themselves and allow surplus Chinese manpower to exploit it.
	China is not a rich country, but if it had the resources of Siberia, it would be a very serious geopolitical counter to the U.S.
	Correct.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black, author of A Matter of Principle, Richard M. Nixon, A Life in Fall, and Franklin D. Roosevelt, Champion of Freedom.
	Lord Black, I tend to subscribe to your theory or your analysis of what happened in China.
	It wasn't a Deliberate leak, but it was something that got out of the lab.
	Then they exploited that to the nth degree, seeding the world, allowing infected Chinese to travel to Europe and elsewhere.
	What is your response to those mostly conservative commentators and sinologists?
	Who say that this, looking at the domestic ramifications for China, could be their Chernobyl.
	Is that overselling the way the Chinese have reacted as a party to that occurrence?
	Yeah, I would say so.
	I mean, Chernobyl was declared to be a catastrophe.
	You know, the Russian word katastrof became well known in the West.
	But in fact it wasn't.
	I mean, it was a meltdown.
	As I recall, the actual human damage was not very serious.
	It was very worrying, but in fact The crisis was managed, and the facility was shut down without significant damage to the population.
	Am I not correct in that?
	Well, they were evacuated.
	There was several hundred who were killed, and then the long-term damage is still hard to assess, but they did evacuate such a large territory that, you know, there simply was a desert created, so people weren't there to be irradiated.
	Yeah, it was a terribly serious threat, but the actual damage I don't think we should be complacently patting ourselves on the back here that the Chinese made this terrible mistake.
	like a souffle for reasons having nothing to do with that.
	So I don't think we should be complacently patting ourselves on the back here that the Chinese made this terrible mistake.
	I mean, as I understand it, and I'm no virologist, but accidents like that do happen sometimes.
	And while they obviously should have taken greater precautions, it wasn't an absolutely scandalous or unprecedented mismanagement of things.
	But they did.
	I think we have to give them full marks for improvisation.
	I mean, they brutally suppressed the illness within China, and they used it as a weapon with which they basically sent the rest of the world home to their You know, to their bedrooms, to go to bed and pull the covers over their head for a year, while the Chinese gained a march on us economically.
	And to those who say, what with Covid, with the labor camps, with the treatment of the Uyghurs, we just shouldn't be doing any business at all with Communist China?
	I think that would be going too far.
	But I think we have to respond much more seriously than we are.
	I mean, up to a point, we have to accept that people can do pretty much, countries can do more or less what they want within their own borders, as long as it's not an atrocity on the Rwanda scale, or Campecheo, you know, the Khmer Rouge, as long as it's not something like that.
	And the Uyghur thing, as far as I know, is appalling, but it's not actually as bad as that.
	But the Hong Kong business is something else.
	I mean, that is a treaty with the United Kingdom, which is one of the world's most important and respected countries.
	And the Chinese have just torn it up and thrown it in their faces like confetti.
	And, you know, I don't want to make invidious distinctions here, but it would be one thing to tear up a treaty with Myanmar or something.
	But, you know, Britain is a serious country.
	It's a nuclear power.
	It was a co-founder of the United Nations with China and three other countries.
	And to treat Britain in that way is an indication of just how high-handed...
	And egotistical that regime has become.
	And it is a true tragedy what has happened and is happening to the people of Hong Kong.
	We're talking to Lord Conrad Black.
	Follow him, Conrad M. Black, on Twitter and read his book, A President Like No Other, Donald J. Trump and the Restoring of America, co-host of the podcast Sense and Intelligence.
	Back to your calls here on America First.
	Thank you, Lord Blank.
	Super.
	We'll talk tonight.
	Yeah, did you send me your number?
	Yeah, I did.
	I texted it to you.
	You should have it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	All the best.
	Bye-bye.
	Okay, you wanted to do Pillow here.
	Great.
	This is going to be Relief Factor.
	Alright.
	Title for that one.
	I'm going to defer to the title of this article, but it is a pretty simple title that probably won't get too many eyeballs.
	Suggestions?
	Probably something comparing China to...
	Oh, yeah.
	Is COVID China's Chernobyl or something like that?
	No, like the Stalin or the Nazis thing.
	Hitler, Stalin, and today's China.
	Got it.
	There we go.
	Yep.
	Stalin at today's China.
	Got it.
	Alright.
	Today's the anniversary of the burning down of the Globe Theatre.
	Oh, that's a tragedy.
	Oh, today also Germany captured Lwów.
	Lwów.
	A little over two minutes.
	Favorite Shakespeare play, Dr. G?
	You know, it's because I had to study it so intently in school.
	It'd have to be King Lear.
	Okay.
	I mean, I know King Lear backwards.
	It's a good pick.
	It's a good pick.
	It's not a bad pick.
	You know, the vile jelly is a little bit kind of...
	You gotta have a stomach for that.
	Yeah.
	I like Richard III.
	Hamlet is meant to be the best.
	Ostensibly, yeah.
	It's my favorite, and I know that might be a little basic, but... No, basic would be Romeo and Juliet, and I like Romeo and Juliet.
	No, I don't think anybody would ever say that.
	That Romeo and Juliet was their favorite Shakespeare play.
	The thing about Hamlet, and I think, you know... I think it's actually right.
	Yeah.
	I mean, Hamlet has everything.
	I mean, every big question of life is touched upon.
	And that's what's so powerful about it.
	He's a self-reverential egotist, kind of.
	Yeah, well, he's not a real protagonist.
	No, he's not a real protagonist.
	In the classical sense, yes.
	He is a foil for us.
	Yeah.
	But, yeah, Hamlet is the best, but the one I have the strongest relationship with is Lear.
	Yeah, I've been told that this is a bad take, but I do actually kind of like Julius Caesar.
	I haven't read that one.
	Why?
	Why is that a bad take?
	Well, it's because it's a little...
	It's a little ham-fisted.
	Yeah, it's not subtle.
	Yeah, it's not subtle at all, you know, in the way that something like Hamlet would be.
	But I read it at a very important time in my life, and ever since then I've always just kind of stuck with it.
	That's important.
	It is.
	Alright, 30 seconds.
	30 seconds, standing by.
	Not a huge Macbeth fan though.
	I gotta say.
	Although the witches are fun.
	Yes.
	The witches are fun.
	I did get to see Macbeth performed at my college.
	It was pretty awesome.
	Oh, fun.
	Stand by.
	Standing by. - Crude and slow, snowflake. snowflake.
	Your attack was no better than that of a clumsy child.
	Which is your favorite Shakespeare play?
	For me, for various reasons to do with the depth of which I had to analyze it at school, it's King Lear.
	For our engineer, the professor, it is Hamlet.
	Eric, what's your favorite?
	Richard III.
	Richard III, an iconoclastic choice.
	And Jeff, what's your favorite?
	I forget which one I read the Cliff Notes on in middle school, but that would be the one.
	That is such... There's Shakespearean, and then there's Jeffian.
	And that is a Jeffian response, and we love him all the more for it.
	A perfect response.
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	Let's go to Joe.
	He's been waiting very patiently in California.
	Joe, line two.
	Mr. Gorka, thank you very much for everything that you do, sir.
	You're very welcome, Joe.
	Where are you from, Joe, originally?
	Originally, I'm a Mexican born that loves America, sir.
	Oh, we love it.
	We love it.
	We love it.
	Why do you... Hey, Joe, in front of my three million listeners right now and all my viewers and rumble on Facebook, just in a sentence, I'll give you two sentences if you need it, Joe.
	Why do you love America?
	Very simple, sir.
	There are two nations made in this.
	One was made by God, Israel, and this was made by man with ideas.
	It was no accident, and unfortunately, we're trying to kill it.
	I cannot.
	It makes me cry!
	Who's trying to kill it, Joe?
	The left!
	Yeah.
	So why did you call in today?
	What's your idea?
	Sir, they want to put cameras on police officers.
	Well, they have cameras.
	Yes.
	Because they want them to be accountable.
	My idea is let's have every single politician in Washington as well at state level and city level and put body cameras on them.
	I guarantee you, if we start talking about it, it may take a ball, the ball may roll and I guarantee you they're going to become 20% more honest.
	So hang on, this is fascinating.
	So you want them, even when they're doing their dirty deals behind closed doors, they should always be wearing body cams.
	Is that the idea?
	As long as they're on the clock.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Or if they don't like body cams, we could have each one would have their own personalized drone.
	And it would, a little thing would follow them with a camera.
	How about that?
	I love it.
	You're a genius, Joe.
	I love it.
	Yes, yes.
	This critical race theory, I don't see why they're allowing it to go on.
	It's completely against the Constitution.
	It's racist.
	It's racist.
	It's against the Equal Opportunities Act.
	It's unconstitutional.
	It's racist, completely.
	But people are fighting back.
	Find out more.
	Watch Newsmax every Sunday night.
	The Gawker Reality Check.
	Stay on the line, Joe.
	Great call.
	Let's give Joe a signed copy of The War for America's Soul.
	My Newsmax show is The Gawker Reality Check, 7pm, 10pm Eastern, every Sunday.
	It's got a Sean in New York City, line 4.
	Welcome, Sean.
	Caro signore.
	Greetings.
	How are you sir?
	Good!
	I just wanted to give you the gist of my experience.
	So you go to the various Starbucks in the metropolitan area and the tri-state area and you see the LGBTQ flag up.
	I've noticed that there's a little twist on it.
	I think they've added a little sort of bee on it for the people of color, and I have no problem with it whatsoever.
	I love freedom of expression.
	You're a private corporation.
	Actually, they're a publicly traded corporation.
	You can do what you want with your business.
	So I was just striking up a conversation with a barista today, and I said, you know, I would bet you that when it comes July 4th, that there will not be an American flag in the Starbucks.
	And what was the response?
	And, you know, this person is listening.
	And also they're wearing these masks and the masks have got the LGBTQ flag on it.
	I said, and I bet you guys won't be wearing, you know, a Starbucks.
	She's oppressed!
	banner on your masks either so she's listening and this other person chimes in was not part of the conversation a young lady and she says well you know that's because it represents the oppressed people and this and that and I said are you oppressed and she's pointing to her skin color she's 19 years old and she's telling me she's oppressed I said I don't see an oppressed person in front of me how are you oppressed she's at Starbucks she's oppressed buying her latte exactly and
	And so, out come the expletives, she starts cursing at me, and I didn't curse back, I just raised my eyebrows and she said, you know, I can't believe that a grown man is thinking this way.
	And I said, listen, socialism has been tried and it has failed everywhere that it has been tried.
	Alright, alright.
	Sean, Sean, hold the line.
	Hold the line.
	I want to continue this discussion.
	I have to do a live read because I want to know the end of the story.
	So stay with me, Sean.
	Don't go anywhere.
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	Dukakis.
	Dukakis.
	Are you kidding me?
	I didn't know he was still alive.
	Let's get back to Sean.
	Sean.
	Yes, sir.
	So what happens?
	She starts swearing at you, right?
	She starts swearing, and she says, I can't believe that a grown man is talking this way.
	In other words, denying her victimhood.
	And I'm telling her about how the flag is basically a totem pole victim flag.
	And so she says, I can't believe it.
	And I said, look.
	I said, socialism has been tried.
	It has failed everywhere that it has been.
	And I said, you're a 19-year-old telling me about how socialism is so wonderful.
	My wife was from the former Soviet Union.
	You're going to tell me you're 19 years old and you're limited experience in life about how socialism is so wonderful?
	And?
	And there's a person behind me.
	I'm not kidding you, Dr. Gorka.
	The person basically wanted to punch my lights out.
	I heard somebody say, I'm gonna bust his you-know-what.
	So what happened?
	At the very end, I walked out because it looked like it was gonna be violence.
	You can't have a civil conversation with these people.
	No, you can't.
	But you know what your biggest mistake was, Sean?
	What's that?
	Going to Starbucks.
	Well, you know, I went in because My banker was very nice to me the other day.
	He printed off some checks that I couldn't download, my cancelled checks.
	I wanted to be nice.
	I wanted to show him a good gesture.
	I went in, I got like one of these cookies and I got a coffee, a nice coffee.
	That's the only reason why I was in there.
	No good deed goes unpunished.
	No good deed.
	Hey Sean, have you got my books?
	Yes, sir.
	And I wanted to say to you, by the way, I had emailed you.
	You are welcome to join us on July 11th if you're in the New York area.
	I know from time to time you come up to Connecticut.
	I'm having a party on July 11th.
	I'm right off the highway.
	I'm in Queen.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hey, Seb, how you doing?
	Is it true you've been banned from Twitter?
	Well, my big account with 132,000 was banned, but I'm back at history wild.
	Wow, history wild.
	OK, stand by.
	We're going live in 10.
	History wild.
	Yep, got it.
	From the ReliefFactor.com studios, this is America First with Sebastian Gorka. - Yeah.
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	We have with us now a man who...
	really has changed the way we look at history.
	Why?
	Because he's telling the truth.
	He's pushing back on the propagandists.
	He is the author of the incredible Patriot's History of the United States.
	Larry Schweikart, welcome back to America First.
	Hey Seb, it's great to be here.
	So you wanted to come on the show to blow my trumpet.
	You're doing a series of interviews.
	Tell our millions of listeners and viewers what Larry's latest project is.
	Well, I have a website called The Wild World of History, and we've started up a new feature on our subscription side, the VIP side, called Celebrity Interviews.
	And Sebastian Gorka is the very first Celebrity interview that we will be rolling out and so we're going to announce a date and have your interview available.
	We're going to make it free to all your listeners for 48 hours and then it goes into the VIP subscription bin and you got to pay to get it and all the other stuff.
	So we want to work out a date that we can get your interview up.
	For 48 hours free to all your listeners and all the Wild World of History subscribers.
	All right, check it out right now.
	I'm on the page wildworldofhistory.com.
	So you've already established yourself as the person who's pushing back on the critical theory, the fake Zinn, Anthony Zinn.
	Well, the idea is to talk about something besides history.
	What is the goal of this new website and what do you want to bring out of these interviews?
	I had fun, but I don't know who else you're interviewing.
	So give us the game plan for this new platform.
	Well, the idea is to talk about something besides history, interesting people in America today, so that if you're on the site and you've been looking at, we have hundreds and hundreds of free historical things on there.
	And if you're a member of the VIP, you get all sorts of things like the 1620 default, which is my 10-video answer to the 1619 project, or the horrible history of Howard Zinn, which is my three-video answer to 1619.
	Uh, historian Howard Zinn, but we wanted to give people something just a little bit lighter, something a little more current.
	And so we wanted to start with you and talk politics and talk deep state, talk the Trump administration.
	But we also have coming up a country star, Clint black, an old friend of mine, uh, actor, Nick Searcy, uh, novelist, Brian Freeman, who's just one of the best novelists of thrillers out there today.
	A fantastic writer.
	And rock and roll bassist Rudy Sarza, who's with Blue Oyster Cult, played with Ozzy, is an emigre and escapee from Cuba, from Castro's Cuba.
	And he knows a thing or two about totalitarianism.
	So those are just a few of the people we'll be having in the celebrity interview series.
	Fabulous.
	And I have to ask you, given what you've done for this nation with your history books, how significant is it to you, as somebody who's been in the trenches for so long, These videos we're seeing every single day of parents and even some teachers, we've had them on the show, pushing back on critical race theory and the Howard cynisms of the last few decades.
	How happy does that make you, Larry?
	These are awesome.
	I mean, and this is grassroots politics.
	And of course, the left is trying to say, oh, they're astroturf.
	No, they're not.
	They are absolutely spontaneous.
	People showing up because they don't want their kids hearing this garbage where they're all taught to hate their own race.
	It's just absurd.
	And so it's wonderful.
	We have a host here in Phoenix, James T. Harris, who helps organize these things.
	And he's had Peoria, Scottsdale, and Chandler school board meetings just packed with people because he says, hey, the meeting's tonight and we'll see you out there.
	It's great.
	And the biggest damage done, I'm asking, we don't rehearse these questions, but I'm curious, is it the teacher training colleges or is it individuals like Zinn?
	Where's the center of gravity for what's been done to the education system, Larry, over the last few decades?
	Well, that's a great question.
	It's clearly the universities.
	Someone like Zinn would be absolutely irrelevant.
	If there weren't teachers out there having history departments adopt his book.
	And here's a little interesting tidbit.
	Zen said in his book that in his first four years, he had something like three, first ten years, first decade, he had something like 300,000 copies, and he went through 25 printings.
	Well, in Patriot's history's first ten years, We went through over 350,000 sales and about 28 or 29 printing.
	So until he got in the colleges, we were beating him in terms of popular appeal.
	A fabulous, fabulous success.
	Find out for yourself.
	If you're looking for that pushback, if you're looking for that anti-CRT, that anti-Howard Zinn, it is A Patriot's History of the United States by Larry Schweikart.
	Find out so much more at his website.
	Check out the new interviews, wildworldofhistory.com.
	That's wildworldofhistory.com.
	Thank you, Larry.
	Keep doing what you do.
	God bless.
	I'm Sebastian Gorka.
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	All right.
	Thank you, Larry.
	Tell us as soon as you get the date and then we'll push it out on social media.
	Exactly, and what I also asked Jeff for is how he wants us to represent you.
	Do you have a book that you want us to talk about at the time, you know?
	Seb Gorkin, don't forget his new book, blah blah blah.
	Yeah, well, you know, you can just do the War for America's Soul and just our website, SebGorka.com.
	OK.
	Awesome.
	All right.
	Very good.
	I expect to hear from you soon.
	All right.
	Thanks, buddy.
	Bye bye.
	All right.
	mic's on if we want to do football is gay - Sorry.
	Oh my gosh.
	We can do it here or we can do it in B. Where is it?
	It's not, we didn't do the... We didn't do any cuts?
	Okay.
	Yeah, just if you want to.
	Oh, because it was a video.
	You mentioned you wanted to talk about it.
	I do, I do.
	If you want to do that.
	We got to talk about it now.
	Let's get the Jeffster on.
	The man who remembers his Shakespeare play.
	Well, the Cliff Notes.
	Ten bucks.
	No, Midsummer Night's Dream.
	Why?
	Ten bucks.
	I never read that one in high school.
	That's what my guy, because... Interesting.
	Maybe.
	Hey.
	One NFL player comes out as gay and now the whole league is gay.
	My, how the tides change.
	Thirty seconds.
	You ready, Jeff?
	Yes.
	To talk Shakespeare?
	Yes.
	One of these days I gotta tell my Midsummer Night's Dream story.
	You have one?
	Yeah, I do.
	10 seconds, stay by.
	On the side of the U.S. Constitutional Constitution, America first.
	It's the question of the day.
	I'm gonna ask it, and I'm gonna ask it from our favorite sci-fi fan.
	Mr. G, are you there?
	I am.
	Is the NFL gay?
	First of all, you said that yesterday before the video.
	That's probably something you would get in trouble for.
	I don't understand this.
	The video that you're talking about is the one that they released.
	It says football is gay.
	Yeah, we can't show it because it's just words, right?
	It says football is lesbian.
	I think it throws in trans there.
	You were kind of asking me on the angle of this.
	I really have no idea what they're doing.
	What is the win here for them?
	It's zero win.
	I don't get it at all because It doesn't even make sense when you think about it.
	I don't even understand what they're trying to do.
	With the Pride Month, a lot of the teams, they did go in on Pride Month.
	A couple of them changed their logos with the flags.
	But I don't even know what this is.
	It's just overkill.
	Alright, so what is it going to mean when the average football fan sees this ad that says, football is gay is lesbian.
	Is there going to be a ramification?
	Is there going to be a blowback?
	No.
	Why?
	Not with the NFL.
	That's the most popular sport by far.
	And people are so used to that on Sundays, doing that in the fall.
	It's almost how everyone's just come accustomed now to Facebook and Twitter.
	You say you're going to quit it, but you can't really because you're used to it.
	People that are my age, 38 years old, for 20 years now, you have your team, you always follow them, even though it bothers you, and all my friends said it last year, that they weren't going to watch the NFL, everybody still ended up watching the NFL.
	But look at the NBA, aren't they hemorrhaging?
	Yes, but that's because part of it is because the products become terrible.
	That's the one thing that's really hurting, is the NBA.
	Those ratings are way down.
	So why does it hurt the NBA to be woke, but not the NFL?
	Because the NFL, I think, is more popular, plus it's only, you know, 16 games a year.
	Right.
	It's not, you know, an 81-game season like the NBA.
	But that's why the NFL is kind of sticking around.
	So what you're saying is, there is no limit to how political football can become in America.
	No, look what they've done the last couple years, with the kneeing in the National Anthem, all the controversy that caused, and they're still, you know, doing very well.
	That's sad.
	So there's not going to be a point where people start booing and walking out?
	Um... Not unless they get really crazy.
	Do we concur, Eric?
	I think ultimately, yeah, Jeff's right.
	There's not going to be a lot of blowback.
	And I think what's indicative here is you ask, you know, what's the win?
	I'd argue they've already won.
	They've already changed the culture so much.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	What's the win for the NFL?
	You're talking about the left.
	I'm asking about the NFL.
	What accrues to their benefit?
	They just gain favor with the dominant culture, I guess.
	Yeah, but is it dominant?
	How many homosexuals are there in America?
	I mean, it's less than 2%.
	So what are we talking about?
	It's insanity.
	Literally, it's not the tail wagging the dog.
	It's the flea wagging the tail wagging the dog.
	Shad, is Jeff right?
	It's easier to walk out of baseball and basketball because they've become really boring sports.
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	Cut.
	Three you said?
	Three, yeah.
	Yeah.
	There is this sadly growing fringe element in our society that wants to act out violently because they seem to be so loyal to this former guy that when they think he's being unfairly attacked, they act out.
	And he seems to not only relish that, but does nothing to contain that and say, well, I don't mean that you should be going and hurting people.
	I don't mean you should be attacking the courthouse or people's homes.
	Mr. Moore.
	Hey, Sebastian.
	I'm glad we made this work.
	Yes.
	How you doing?
	Oh, well, you know, it's hard to survive.
	I mean, it's... Why would we want to go after some of these Republicans for making this stupid deal with Biden in the first place?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Let's do it.
	How many times do we have to fall into this trap?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Standby.
	60 seconds and we are live.
	Yeah, all right.
	That was recorded already.
	Those were the ones that we recorded.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Five seconds.
	All right.
	Standing by.
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	The theme for today has been gaslighting.
	When somebody tries to feed you information that will make you doubt your own senses, so that you end up thinking that you're the crazy one, when in fact they have been lying to you.
	But there's another thing we could discuss, which is, of course, related to gaslighting, and that's the definition of insanity.
	Allegedly, apocryphally, I think, associated with Albert Einstein, and the definition goes, doing the same thing again and again and again, and expecting a different result.
	That was his definition of insanity.
	And it looks as if the GOP are doing exactly that.
	Let's go deeper into the issues with the author of Trumponomics.
	He is one of the founders of the Cup for Growth and a former economist with the Heritage Foundation, Stephen Moore.
	Welcome to America First.
	Hey Sebastian, good to be with you.
	By the way, I do feel that way a lot of times.
	Am I insane or is everybody around me insane?
	But I live inside the Beltway.
	So talk to us, give us just a small selection of adjectives, of words that you could use to describe this latest so-called infrastructure bill.
	Well, you know, I was thinking, you know, when you were saying the definition of insanity, doing something over and over and over again, expecting a different result.
	And when I first, I'm going to just give you a quick history lesson.
	When I first came to Washington in the mid-eighties, Ronald Reagan was president.
	I was proud to have worked for one year for Reagan in his bunch office.
	And I remember one time late in his presidency, you know, Republicans wanted to do a deal with the Democrats on the budget, you know, the way they always want to make these dirty deals.
	And I remember Reagan, you know, sat back and, you know, he said, oh, you know, they're going to promise you that you're going to get this and that.
	And Reagan sat back and said, you know, I'm still waiting for those three dollars of spending cuts for every dollar of tax increase they agreed to five years ago.
	And of course, it never happened.
	And my point is that how many times do we fall into this trap?
	Of expecting the Democrats to negotiate in good faith, to keep their bargain.
	They never do.
	And this one lasted, oh, about nine minutes.
	About nine minutes.
	After Biden shakes hands with the Republican negotiators, Mitt Romney and the others, he runs, he sprints off to Bernie Sanders and says, don't worry, we're still going to do the big massive tax increase.
	And don't worry, we're going to have our $2 trillion human infrastructure bill.
	And then Republicans are like, wow, we got double crossed.
	And I thought, Sebastian, what did they think was going to happen?
	But first things first, Mitt Romney negotiating for Republicans after a Trump presidency?
	What planet are we on?
	Yeah, well, I mean, this is a problem.
	And look, Susan Collins, and by the way, I like Susan Collins.
	I do like her.
	I don't always agree with her, but I think she's You know, for Maine, she's about as good as senators are going to get, but they got snooker.
	And here's the thing.
	That bill is terrible.
	It's $1.2 trillion, which we, we, we, Republicans should be talking about cutting.
	COVID is over.
	Trump conquered COVID with the vaccine.
	It's done.
	It's over.
	We don't have to speak, continue to spend trillions and trillions of dollars.
	They have the latest things, 500,000.
	Electric vehicle charging stations paid for by Uncle Sam.
	Now, I don't think the United States government built gasoline stations around the country.
	Why does the government have to build electric charging stations for Teslas?
	Yeah, incredible.
	Absolutely.
	So talk to us about what this bill really should be called because it's not infrastructure, is it Steve?
	Well, I'll just give you one example.
	One of the major expenditure items in this bill, that's between $30 and $40 billion.
	I forget the exact amount, but that's a lot of money.
	$30 to $40 billion.
	Do you know what it's for?
	The Internal Revenue Service.
	The Republicans, the idiot Republicans, agreed to the Biden plan to hire 75,000 new IRS agents.
	That's the size of a medium-sized city.
	75,000 new IRS agents to harass conservative donors and conservative taxpayers.
	By the way, you may think I'm making this up, but how short are the Republican memories?
	Do you remember Lois Lerner?
	I mean, all I know is that New York is the biggest police force in the world, and that's 50,000.
	But the IRS needs another 75,000 agents.
	It's unbelievable!
	So look, let's cut to the chase theme.
	You are...
	You know, you've lived in the swamp.
	You've been fighting the good fight for decades.
	You advised candidate Trump.
	You advised President Trump, the Vice President.
	Just put me out of my misery.
	Why is the GOP doing this again, Stephen?
	I don't know, but here's what I'm going to tell you.
	I just wrote a piece with some of my other conservative leaders.
	And we're going to send this to Congress, probably Thursday or Friday.
	And it basically says this, Sebastian, if the Republicans, I mean, actually Biden did the Republicans a favor, right?
	He did a favor by showing that he was double crossing them.
	You know, it only took nine minutes.
	You know, usually it takes nine weeks.
	But that gives Republicans out to say, okay, no deal, you were double dealing us here.
	We're not gonna go along with this.
	So if they're gonna have an infrastructure deal, here are the four conditions.
	And I wonder if you would agree with these.
	Number one, no more money for the IRS.
	We should be cutting the IRS agency, especially given the abuses that have happened there.
	Number two, if we're gonna have an infrastructure bill, it must include authorization for the Keystone XL pipeline, which is one of the most important parts of our infrastructure, our energy infrastructure, And by the way, Sebastian, the Keystone XL pipeline costs nothing.
	It's free, because the private sector will pay for it.
	Number three, no Green New Deal.
	No Green New Deal in an infrastructure bill, right?
	And number four, any additional spending Look, Stephen, I love it, but a letter or an article signed by real conservatives, what difference does it make?
	that $1.9 trillion spending bill that we didn't need in the first place three months ago.
	Look, Stephen, I love it, but a letter or an article signed by real conservatives, what difference does it make?
	Who's going to pick up those three points you made inside the GOP establishment and say, this is our bargaining position?
	Well, I mean, you can lead the horse to water, right?
	But you can't make them drink.
	So we're going to try to lead that horse to water and hopefully they'll come to their senses.
	Because, look, I mean, I've talked to conservatives all week.
	People are angry about this bill.
	I mean, we are now partners in crime with Biden in his $20 trillion increase in the debt.
	We should be opposing every inch of this, not making deals with him.
	All right.
	You do your thing.
	Write that piece.
	Am I going crazy?
	Am I going crazy?
	No, no.
	You are a sane man in an insane world.
	Do that.
	Let's see if any member of the GOP has a spine to pick it up.
	Let's talk in the last few minutes with the author of Trumponomics.
	Follow him right now at Stephen Ph.
	Stephen Moore on Twitter.
	If you weren't living in an insane world, if a compass mentis, non-senile, non-radical were in the White House, what should, just give us the three things America should be doing now as it's trying to crawl out of the China virus pandemic?
	Well, number one, we should be slashing government spending.
	We don't need it anymore.
	The crisis is over.
	Just like after World War Two, you know, we built up our military, but then when World War Two was over, we went back to what it was before.
	We cut government spending.
	So the single most important thing would be to cut spending.
	The second most important thing is to make sure that we do not decapitate the American energy industry.
	You know, the energy industry is so crucial to the United States.
	And anyone who believes that we're going to be able to power a $22 trillion, you know, first rate world economy with windmills is smoking something.
	So we have to rebuild our energy infrastructure.
	And number three, I would love to see a flat tax.
	You know, let's just get our rate down to the lowest rate we can.
	I'll compete China and take China seriously.
	They're laughing.
	Remember when Trump used to say, you know, our adversaries are laughing behind our back.
	Don't you feel like that's what they're doing with Biden in the White House?
	Oh my gosh, they can't stop.
	It's a belly laugh.
	They're grabbing their stomachs.
	They're laughing so heartily.
	Yeah, I mean, look at last week, Sebastian.
	The Chinese, I give them credit, they were, you know, about it.
	They said, we have no interest in the Paris Climate Accord.
	We're not interested in reducing carbon emissions.
	We're going to go out and beat the United States.
	Meanwhile, John Kerry, you know, who's the climate czar, is running around the world saying, yes, China's in on our deal.
	And China's saying, no, we're not.
	I mean, how naive is this to think that China is going to, you know, ruin their economy?
	So we're going to jump off the cliff and hope that they jump off after we do?
	Just that one thing I'm so grateful for you mentioning that, $300.
	$300 million for the IRS so they can have some stormtroopers, jackbooted thugs to do more of what Lois Lerner did under the Obama administration and the GOP agreed to it.
	We gotta kill this bill.
	We gotta kill it.
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	I said clear.
	JCN?
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	here.
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	Right.
	And title for that one.
	GOP strength... strengthens Biden's IRS.
	Uh-huh.
	Can you give me the contact details we had from Mamet when he came on?
	Do you remember David Mamet?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, like the booker or whatever we used.
	Was that working when that happened?
	I don't know.
	I think I would remember that.
	Yeah, he had a new book and he came on.
	It was rather an interesting interview.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Featured videos from today?
	Out in Nash and 1A.
	And right at 1A.
	All right.
	It was the person that did his book.
	Yeah.
	Do you want it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just send it to me.
	That's right.
	All right.
	Two minutes.
	Two minutes.
	Speaking of Shakespeare, I know a guy who subscribes to the alternative authorship pages.
	Oh no!
	Is it the Bacon?
	Is it Francis Bacon?
	No, it's some like obscure noble who isn't Francis Bacon.
	It's the guy who, the book, whatever, the big book from the late 90s, early 2000s.
	Marlowe?
	Is it Marlowe?
	No, not Marlowe, not Bacon.
	Nobody famous, some guy.
	Yeah, there's a third guy.
	Yeah, the guy who one dude wrote the book about.
	Who is more clever than Shakespeare, a true genius, but nobody's heard of.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Part of me, you know, the interesting thing about that is that people get, you know, whenever that stuff, that argument comes up, It becomes actually an argument about whether or not spontaneous genius exists.
	Always, right?
	Because in order for Shakespeare to truly be the master that he was, you know, a man of such common low birth had to be produced as a genius, which, you know, is possible.
	And really, he was a low birth.
	He's a burgher.
	Yeah, right.
	But he's not a peasant.
	No.
	His dad was a glove maker.
	That's not exactly low birth.
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	Okay.
	The gaslighting continues.
	And it's again that lady who just likes to circle back.
	There is a White House response and she's actually talking in the name of the man who bears the title President of the United States.
	This is Jen Psaki on Gwenberry.
	Refusing to respect the national anthem of the United States.
	Cut hate.
	This weekend, Gwen Berry, who hopes to represent the United States as an Olympian on the hammer-throwing events, won a bronze medal at the trials, and then she turned her back on the flag while the anthem played.
	Does President Biden think that is appropriate behavior for someone who hopes to represent Team USA?
	Well, Peter, I haven't spoken to the president specifically about this, but I know he's incredibly proud to be an American and has great respect for the anthem and all that it represents, especially for our men and women serving in uniform all around the world.
	He would also say, of course, that part of that pride in our country means recognizing there are moments where we are, as a country, haven't lived up to our highest ideals.
	And it means respecting the right of people, granted to them in the Constitution, to peacefully protest.
	It's so weird.
	It looks like she's actually reading.
	It looks like she's looking down at notes.
	She has to read notes that say, Biden's a patriot.
	Tell them he likes America.
	And then later, but peaceful protest is okay.
	I mean, this is the, this is the cretinous individual who needs talking points.
	President Biden likes America.
	Well, you bloody hope so, given that he bears the title of President.
	It's kind of part of the job description, isn't it?
	Oh, I prefer Germany.
	But I'm the President of America.
	And then this pablum?
	This empty verbiage?
	But peaceful protest, that's important.
	Hang on a second.
	She wants to be on the US team for the Olympics.
	Not the hate US team.
	Have you seen that video of a Paul Volta at the Games, some kind of Games?
	Amazing!
	Somebody tweeted out saying, this is what patriotism looks like.
	And he's going at a hundred miles an hour, about to put the pole into the socket to jump over the fence.
	And he hears the national anthem start playing and it's like the retro blasters just fire and he puts the brakes on and stops himself just as he's about to plant the pole vault.
	And what does he do?
	Turns around and snaps up straight to salute America, the greatest nation on God's green earth.
	I mean, what is the level Of cognitive dissonance.
	It's not even... Cognitive dissonance is too fancy a phrase.
	What is the level of psychosis, psychopathy, the level of mental retardation of a person who busts their physical limits in a sport to compete in an Olympic trial?
	As a citizen of a nation who then disrespects when that nation's anthem is played to recognize their success in the trials.
	It's truly a sickness.
	And the fact that she's trying to backpedal now.
	Oh, oh, I didn't really hate America.
	Oh yeah?
	Really?
	Because you love it so much you turn your back on it?
	One of the saddest things is, the woman who beat her in that trial, who stood on the podium respectfully, she broke a world record for the hammer throw.
	In the trial, in the trial she broke a world record.
	Who's talking about that?
	Nobody!
	Because of this egotistical little putz!
	Let's talk about what America really means.
	This video was sent to me by my friend Brett, Brett Smith, who's been a guest on the show.
	And this is from a Vietnamese state rep in Arizona at a council meeting.
	And it's powerful.
	Listen to Quang Nhung on his experience of America and his experience of communism.
	Cut seven.
	I just got irritated so I came over here and pressed the white button.
	Is it okay if I say white button?
	You know, I just recently heard somebody said that white nationalism... Oh, actually, communism is not the enemy, but white nationalism.
	So let me tell you something about white nationalism.
	White nationalism didn't drown 250,000 Vietnamese at the South China Sea.
	The communists did.
	White nationalism did not execute 86,000 South Vietnamese at the fall of Saigon.
	Communists did.
	White nationalism did not put me here.
	Communism did.
	So, don't take it lightly.
	Don't mock me.
	Don't mock what I go through in life.
	It's rough.
	I lost most of my cousins, my family members, due to communism.
	If we don't stand up to teach communism to our children, we'll lose this country.
	So sir, don't mock me.
	That's the left.
	They're mocking him.
	A man who's lost family members to communism.
	Murdered.
	Murdered by communists.
	And he's here.
	Why?
	Because we are the greatest nation on God's Earth.
	But they laugh at him.
	The people who want socialism.
	Who think Che Guevara is so cool!
	Who think that socialism failed 40 times in 40 countries because reasons.
	But this time, in America, we'll get it right.
	And it'll be a paradise.
	A paradise with gulags.
	With labor camps.
	Not cancel culture.
	But cancelling your life.
	Because that's what socialism does to those who disagree with it.
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	Dinesh, welcome back to America First.
	Seb, always a pleasure.
	Thanks for having me on.
	So there's like one newspaper left in America.
	I think that's about the number.
	It's called the New York Post.
	It was founded by one of our founders, by Alexandra Hamilton.
	And they quoted you over this Olympic tryout controversy and this woman we've been discussing today, Gwen Berry.
	Perhaps one of the most egregious things is the person who actually won the trial broke a world's record.
	But nobody's talking about that.
	They're talking about this person, Gwen Berry.
	Talk to us about your tweet and what the New York Post liked about it.
	Well, I just think that we're going to see a lot of this kind of thing, and by that I mean left-wingers having now become habituated to desecrating national symbols.
	They've pulled down monuments.
	They insult the flag.
	They turn away from the anthem.
	And we've got the Olympics coming up.
	Now, the U.S.
	Olympic Committee apparently decided to let its athletes do certain forms of protest, sort of social justice type protests, not any types of protests.
	And of course, right-wing types of protests are not allowed.
	The protests that are allowed have to be oriented toward, quote, inclusion of various groups and minorities.
	So there's a clear tilt and I think this athlete is a good example of someone who sort of got the early message and is putting it into effect.
	I think it's, you know, for people like me, it's very sad because I used to watch the Olympics going back to the 1976 Olympics in India where I was, you know, Twelve-year-old kid, and this has been something I love to watch.
	I'm a fan of the movie Chariots of Fire, but suddenly we now have a potentially politicized Olympics in which we're going to constantly have to recoil as people make political statements as they run and jump and hurdle.
	And your reaction to the ultimate walkification of politics back home with the NFL saying, we're gay, Dinesh?
	Well, this is so pathetic.
	Is that gonna be a popular move, Dinesh, amongst football fans?
	You can't imagine, and so what you have to realize is, you know, sometimes...
	When you find that a corporation is behaving in a manner that insults its own consumers, you have to ask why they're doing it.
	And I think the answer is that they are playing, obviously, to a very different type of audience.
	It's not the audience that's watching on TV, because if you had a vote on that audience, it's pretty clear how that one would come out.
	They're answering to a political community that has Insinuated itself into the management ranks of the NFL and has enough clout that they believe that this is quote the not only the right thing to do but the only way to go and so they're willing to antagonize a certain amount of viewers in the belief that it's more important to satisfy this kind of elevated an elite constituency.
	And your stance since we started the conversation regarding the Olympics, your stance or your reaction to those conservatives who say we should be boycotting an Olympics that involves China?
	I guess my view on that is no.
	I take a fairly, I mean, if you think about things like athletics and comedy and entertainment, It's very hard on the one hand for us to say that these things should be above politics.
	We don't like it when the left wing jumps in there and tries to make, you know, a running race something, a symbolism of racial justice.
	Well, similarly, except in extreme circumstances, I don't see the reason to cancel the Olympics.
	There's always something going on around the world.
	And the Olympics are in Tokyo.
	Japan is one of our allies.
	And so, just because China's participating in the Olympics, I mean, think about it.
	For decades, if not generations, we took part in the Olympics.
	The Soviet Union participated.
	Lots of other countries participated.
	Now, we did boycott, if I remember, the 1980 Olympics in protest of a specific action by the Soviet Union.
	It's invasion of Afghanistan, but that was, in fact, an extreme circumstance.
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	Now, I want to say that any amount of harm is unacceptable and too much.
	But I also want to make sure that this hysteria, you know, that this doesn't drive a hysteria and that we look at these numbers in context.
	Yes, the gaslighting continues.
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	I cheated in the break, because Dinesh is just so incredibly prolific, whether it's books, whether it's movies.
	I asked him, what are you most proud of?
	And he told me he's so proud of his book, Illiberal Education, and then his movie, America, Imagine a World Without Her.
	I don't want to imagine it.
	My parents escaped a communist dictatorship.
	Dinesh, let me ask you, in the last two weeks we've had incredible footage.
	Of mothers, of teachers standing up, pushing up against the bigotry, the racism of critical race theory, standing up to the school boards.
	Is this something that we should take heart from?
	Is this significant?
	Or can this be crushed as well?
	No, I think it's very significant.
	And in fact, it's one of the silver linings of COVID, I believe.
	You know, the left has been so sly about injecting this indoctrination into the classroom.
	And normally parents dispatch your kids off to school or your son or daughter off to college.
	And you really don't know a whole lot about what goes on over there, what goes on inside the classroom.
	But of course, under COVID, they've had to take the classroom online.
	And so parents kind of pop in on their kids and they go, wait, what?
	What did I just hear?
	And you know, so suddenly all of this stuff has been brought into the home, into the, into earshot, you may say, of the parents.
	And they can't hardly believe it.
	So it's a late reaction.
	You wish it had come earlier.
	You wish the parents were more plugged into what the kids were being taught.
	Or maybe it's more accurate to say, mistaught.
	But at least the parents are now kind of on it, and they're starting to scream about it.
	And now suddenly what happens with the teachers on the left is that they suddenly go, oh no, we're not really doing that.
	You know, it's a little bit like with defund the police.
	Once it becomes immensely popular, the left suddenly goes, oh no, we're not for defunding the police.
	In fact, your side is for defunding the police.
	So they start running away from these ideas, and you know that when they do that, that their side is in trouble.
	Yeah, they are gaslighting.
	Now, you are the exemplar, you're the odd man out, you're the cuckoo's in the nest, because of all the conservatives who've tried to take back the culture and written bad movies, banged their audience over the head with a kind of didactic message, yours are actual good stories with conservative content.
	Will you talk to us Given the fact that we don't have political power, every institution except radio is in the hands of the left, what will it take for conservatives to have the requisite impact on the culture?
	How do we generate a hundred Dinesh D'Souzas?
	Do we have to have conservative film schools?
	What's the answer?
	Yeah, the answer, I think, Seb, is all of that.
	We need conservative comedy, we need conservative movie schools, but we also need conservative schools!
	We also need conservative online universities that are offering high-quality content at a low cost, and all of this is going to require our side.
	See, our side right now is bankrolling their side.
	Yes.
	That's because we go to Disney, we watch their movies, we have Netflix subscriptions, we subscribe at their stores, and they turn around and use those resources We often think it's sufficient to be critics of culture, but at the same time, we're consuming the bad culture that we're critics of.
	And so, I think that we need to do, we need, this will take a little bit of time, but begin an exit out of liberal culture, and that will automatically create a massive market for conservative culture.
	Now, the supply side also needs to be good.
	You can't make horrible movies and expect people to go to the theater and come watch them.
	So, but I think the combination of creativity from the supply side and consumer demand from the demand side will produce really an alternative culture.
	You can almost call it a counterculture.
	That will really be an effective way for us to express not just our political viewpoints, but also our musical and artistic creativity as well.
	Where do you stand on boycotts, Dinesh?
	I met a great patriot at the weekend who said, that's it.
	Two years ago, he cut the cord.
	Never ever since then has he ordered anything on Amazon, for example.
	If you're saying we shouldn't fund those who wish to destroy us, do we start boycotting?
	Well, boycotts are typically good when they're genuinely effective.
	The left, by the way, doesn't do real boycotts.
	They do pretend boycotts.
	And what I mean is, very often for a corporation, they're more scared about some organization calling, saying, we represent 7 million people and we're all going to be boycotting Target unless you install gay bathrooms.
	And Target goes, oh my gosh, there's going to be a boycott that's coming.
	So that is much more effective than one guy saying, listen, I've been going to Target for the last 25 years.
	I'm now not going to go to Target anymore.
	They don't know about you.
	They don't care about one individual not going to Target.
	So, the point is, you achieve a boycott not just by individually saying, I'm canceling my Disney+, so I'm not going to do this anymore.
	It's much more effective to organize a group, and then on behalf of the group, you start making calls to these companies, basically saying, we're members of the Concerned Citizens Against Pornography.
	We're members of this, and we demand that you stop doing that, because if you don't, we're gonna have a hundred people outside your store tomorrow screaming at you.
	So, that's the kind of stuff that they worry about.
	Time to get organized.
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	Google, a Wall Street Journal reporter asked the head of Google's health division, notice that they don't do autofill searches for coronavirus lab leak the way they do it for any other question.
	And the guy said, well, we want to make sure the search isn't leading people down pathways that we would find to be not authoritative information.
	Well, you were wrong, Google and Facebook.
	We don't know.
	The reason why we want you is because we're checking on this s**t. He said, we want to ensure the first thing users see is information from the CDC, the WHO.
	That's who I'm checking on.
	The WHO has been very corrupt and the CDC has been wrong about a lot of s**t.
	This is outrageous that I can't look this information up and now they're doing it with this drug Ivermectin.
	They threw Brett Weinstein off YouTube or almost.
	He's one strike away.
	YouTube should not be telling me what I can see about Ivermectin.
	Ivermectin isn't a registered Republican.
	It's a drug.
	I don't know if it works or not and a lot of other doctors don't either.
	You see, I wanted to play that to you because, you know, it's an important point that elements of the left are waking up.
	But it's Bill Maher, who is a truly heinous individual on so many different levels, and even the broader point he makes is scuppered.
	is sunk by his last comment.
	He says, what is YouTube, what is Google doing censoring news now that we consider to be a conspiracy as leftists a year ago?
	And why are they censoring information about an established drug like ivermectin?
	What did he say?
	It's not like Ivermectin's a registered Republican.
	Which means what?
	You'd be fine censoring.
	You are fine censoring Republicans.
	But that's the level of the gaslighting.
	That is the depth of the hypocrisy.
	They get annoyed, but only within their little bubble.
	When it comes to true, unfettered access to information, that is what they are most afraid of.
	As with all totalitarian individuals, their biggest threat is unfettered access to information.
	Whether you're a Democrat like Bill Maher, whether you're Nancy Pelosi, whether you're Jack Dorsey, or whether you're Xi Jinping, the average person accessing information is the biggest fear you have.
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