It just goes back to the point that I remember from you where you asked me, Can you remember, think or find anything positive from this administration so far?
And we're going to get into this, as well as a lot of stories.
I didn't mean to bury the lead there, but this is definitely a positive for me.
Even if it's just a few people, especially if it's a few people, the lawmakers responsible for the EU censorship.
I, preliminarily, of course, before we look into it a little bit a little bit more, I'm a big fan, right?
Like I have waited for a long time between Trump and Vance scolding Zelensky and Vance going over to the EU and telling them what's what, telling them they can't censor people.
And then we've seen no action, but we see action all across the world.
We see action in Venezuela.
We see them do stuff all the time, but they can't address this.
It looks like some stuff is actually starting to happen.
Because it's like a game of musical chairs where the chairs have run out, but there are still people running around trying to sit in places that they can't sit in.
And that's what this whole scenario appears to be to me, where you have like this three to four year long conflict going on between Russia and Ukraine.
You've got untold billions on both sides being burned up.
But what we're getting into is they've been talking about this stuff for years, right?
And the U.S. basically came out with this new memo saying, hey, like, we're going to get out of Europe essentially.
And like, if NATO doesn't act right and if they don't actually spend the 5% of GDP on military, which most of the countries can't do, then we're going to leave.
If they publish, well, they publish this memorandum, right?
And to kind of fit the vibe of the memorandum, the Trump 28-point peace plan is more favorable towards Russia directly.
And I think that's clear to say if you look at the document or the points in the document, as we will later on.
And I mean, one could argue that we've already been there because the Russians have sent in the North Koreans.
And then the French Foreign Legion.
I remember when this just started.
I remember someone was doing security for us at the office talking about his brother being in the French Foreign Legion and like fighting over in Ukraine.
And this is like three years ago.
So this is, this has been going on for such a long time.
We'll go ahead and present the video here.
I'll get it ready for the screen.
Trump and Zelensky have met yet again to have another, you know, hokey-pokey dance around the campfire and pretend like they're going to take action.
Let's take a look at this.
Trump says, very close to Russia-Ukraine peace deal after Zelensky meeting.
Some say we're 95% there, probably the biggest since World War II.
So you're admitting that the conflict is so bad that it's like World War II level conditions.
Don't worry, I'm going to fix it a year after I said it, but it's okay.
Called European leaders, commissioner, and UK prime minister during Mar-a-Lago talks, discussed security guarantees, territorial issues, and economic recovery.
Let's watch this little clip here of Trump and Zelensky.
And we had a great talk with them after we were completed.
We thought it was appropriate to speak with them.
And our meeting was excellent.
We covered somebody would say 95%.
I don't know what percent, but we made a lot of progress on ending that war, which is really certainly the most deadly war since World War II, probably the biggest war since World War II.
And I know me and you, Tim, we have different perspectives on geopolitical stuff.
I've been following this whole conflict since it began.
Zelensky had the opportunity to sue for peace, and he should have.
And he should have let the Donbass regions vote for their own independence or sovereignty, which is what the 2022 Istanbul peace deal allowed for.
But he was convinced to elongate the war by the neo-Nazi factions in his own government and by Boris Johnson and NATO, saying they'd back him to the hilt if he did so.
This guy has killed like over 500,000 young men in his own country.
The number is probably a lot higher.
I'm using a conservative figure.
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I'm using one that haven't they all, I mean, I'm not even excuse me.
It's just, it's a mathematical problem when you have one country that starts off with a population of close to 50 million people, another at like 28, and Russia's at like whatever it is, like 160 or 133.
Well, let's not forget what happened, Tim, because it's very important to reference what happened.
Zelensky, the thing that led to the confrontation with Trump saying you don't have the cards and JD Vance talking to him, the thing that led to that is Zelensky said, you have big ocean and you'll not feel pain now, but you feel pain later.
And it's like, we're going to feel the pain.
Like, you're telling us, like, we've given you hundreds of billions and you're telling us, like, you're threatening us essentially by saying that.
It's like, that's, that's, that's very clearly crossing the line.
But clearly, that even that doesn't matter because they continue to do the song and dance the entire time.
Well, I think that the Ukrainian deep dive is something that we should really focus on.
We should pick a month next year to focus on that and just be like, okay, like we have a long period of time to get this correct and then bring it to our audience because there are people like Gilbert Doctorow and others that have written entire books on this whole subject, like in modern war and modern conflicts.
And then even before that, like leading back to World War II, right?
Like it just, it goes on and on and on.
It never ends.
And I think like we try to, or you really, you do primarily like most of the deep dives.
I'm going to do more of them, including kind of the special intro to the style of one today where we're going to go over Candace Owens and her latest stuff.
So stay tuned for that.
When we do a deep dive, we're trying to provide value to people.
Right.
And it would be good if we were able to take such an extensive subject, such as the Ukrainian war and the causation and the reality of it and what's happened.
We were able to distill that into like, you know, like a couple to a few deep dives.
Because look, the point is these things are so complicated that once you get a whole understanding of them, it becomes really simple.
Just like anything, like real genius is in the simplicity and not in the complexity of anything.
And it's all a griff by either the government or like the military industrial complex, the politicians themselves, or like someone in the business community.
And remember, I said this not the last room, but prior to a lot of these conflicts, man, they're just a negative feedback loop in which somebody started it.
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It didn't even, it doesn't even matter at this point, right?
Because each side has hurt each other, and like there are people who didn't even exist during the time period in power where the decisions were made to cause the conflicts.
So, like, people are fighting over things or agendas that are like dead.
You know, it's just very messed up how a lot of these conflicts just continue to play out, and there's never a solution because neither side wants to concede.
We've got more of Trump, and this is Trump talking about Putin.
And this relates to the point of Putin being the evil dictator, man.
And the place where I took this from the place, the person who I quote tweeted it on Twitter is like, pathetic.
He works for Putin, he licks his boots, blah, blah, blah.
And it's like, no, dude, like, this is like the most normal stuff that I see out of Trump.
And then he doesn't fulfill any of it and he stabs Putin in the front anyway.
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But in this conversation with President Putin, did you discuss what responsibility Russia will have for any kind of reconstruction of Ukraine post-agreement?
Once it sounds a little strange, but I was explaining to the president.
President Putin was very generous in his feeling toward Ukraine succeeding, including supplying energy, electricity, and other things at very low prices.
So a lot of good things came out of that call today, but they were in the works for two weeks with Steve and with Jared.
And if a country is winning a conflict, a country doesn't talk about itself like that, like the U.S. and Ukraine are when Trump acknowledges, like, yeah, they're going to help with rebuilding, they're going to help with energy.
That's not what the loser does.
And what the Ukrainians and what the EU want, what they want the loser to do is they want to unfreeze all those Russian assets and take them for themselves.
Yeah, they use that money to quote-unquote rebuild Ukraine when they'll really just steal it for themselves and let the Western contractors do the job anyway.
Trump-aligned framework, as reported, freezing the current battle lines.
And Russia doesn't even agree with that.
De facto acceptance that Russia keeps territory it occupies.
Crimea, Crimea states effectively or status effectively kicked down the road, which means like we still don't acknowledge Crimea, which is crazy because I think Obama did.
So like that, that's that's it.
That's beyond anything.
No forced Russian withdrawal before ceasefire.
Zelensky, no recognition of territorial gains by Russia.
Borders recognized as 1991.
Ukraine, that means that they want Crimea back.
Any ceasefire must be temporary and conditional.
Territory is not negotiable in a final settlement.
And look, look how the AI, and this is just like when it calls Muhammad a gentle leader.
Look at the like, and notice how it's never anything negative about the war leader.
Okay.
Translation: Trump's Trump stop the bleeding now, whatever.
And Zelensky, oh, peace without land theft.
See, it's all it's about peace without stealing the land.
Like, I just, I can't do it anymore.
Then NATO guarantees in Trump-aligned framework.
Ukraine does not join NATO.
Security guarantees are political, not treaty level.
U.S. EU assurances without Article 5 obligations.
Russia has said they don't have a problem with Ukraine joining the EU.
Being a part of the EU, but like you would think that normally, well, I guess you're right because some of the EU countries are also part of NATO, and that's where the security guarantees come from.
U.S. EU assurances.Article 5 goal: avoid automatic U.S. military entanglement.
Yeah, because, like, fuck, do we want not only do we not get free health care, free housing, taking care of the homeless problem, uh, improvement on schools?
Not only do we not get that and we get our 300 million spin over there, we have to go potentially fight and die for these people.
And I'm sorry, like, even if it is, we'll get back to this.
Even if it is the perfect story of like the evil Russians, like, I will kill you, Ukraine.
Oh, no, please don't kill the Americans.
Save me.
Like, even if it is like that, like, ultimately, I don't want to go fight over there.
I don't want like in Germany, they say, like, both men and women will be forcibly conscripted.
So we like punish people, but then we also like reward them in this weird way for doing the things that we want.
Like, we get to basically be exonerated from all guilt for the most part, because not enough people talk about like, they're like, oh, we got a Ukraine and Russia bad person.
But not enough people are like, Biden literally forced this guy.
Arian Gruiper 1488 will be mad and upset that we made fun of the dear leader or whatever.
But like all these people ultimately, and it's like we talk about on the show with the Star Wars story, there is no real like this person is heavenly angel man, the other person is like evil demon, right?
Because like Churchill killed millions of people, right?
So like it's all gray area grand scheme of things, right?
So Zelensky is saying, if we don't get NATO, then they want other security guarantees, which the U.S. has already stated.
Like I talked about that new memorandum that came out.
We're not agreeing to that.
Russian accountability.
And like when we saw this, we both kind of laughed at it because, like, it's so insane.
Trump aligned framework, war crimes handled later through diplomacy, sanctions relief used as leverage, focused on forward-looking stability, not punishment.
Zelensky wants war crime tribunals, no blanket amnesty for anyone, reparations funded by it says partly here, wholly by the Russian assets, like $300 billion.
Justice is part of peace, not optional.
I mean, who gets to decide, bro?
Like, is it you?
Is it the Ukrainians?
Another demand in here as we get further down, Zelensky wants this says no limit.
But the thing is, is like whether Russia was provoked, sometimes Russia wasn't provoked for some of these conflicts.
And it was purely like from the like region of all the stuff that happened in the Donbass for them just like going and standing for their people in certain aspects.
Like, here's the thing: the government and the people in the specific area are not necessarily sitting there at one roundtable and being like, oh, let's have a conversation and cause a ruckus of it.
Normally, these things have deep-rooted issues where you've got like, you know, just like Palestine and Israel conflicts that have just been brewing for a very long time.
So like one side comes in and be like, oh, well, we're going to defend these people all of a sudden.
That also comes into play because they're like, what's going to stop Russia from doing this again?
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And I don't really have a good answer to that unless there was an actual discussion.
Yeah, like I can fully get behind like the United States really provoked this specific conflict, but we weren't as involved for some of these previous conflicts.
Look, here's my thing: I'm not trying to exonerate anybody of anything, any nation, any country.
Like I say, I don't like the Star Wars story.
Every nation has problems, issues, whatever.
The point is, is like, how long are you able to like, there's like fake world slop, which we'll get into, the whole Candace Owens drama about like nothing.
Like, people are excited about that.
But then they're somehow able to take something that's real and that actually matters.
And by bombarding the public with it, they're able to make the public not care about it.
Because, like, how many times have you seen something about Ukraine just over the years?
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Well, doesn't that naturally happen because news cycle, like some crazy shit happens that, like, yeah, but not all, not all crazy shit have we spent like 300 billion on?
This is my point: is like Americans want to know why they're suffering and where their money went and why the dollar isn't worth anything.
And there are other factors, it's COVID, and I understand that.
But you want to look at a portion of it, you look at Ukraine, but left or right, you won't see that narrative pushed anywhere other than a few places be like, hey, like, look at where the money's actually going.
So, now, like, speaking on the EU and these conflicts, because we've talked about this earlier, when it comes down to the EU, the EU is also having problems with America.
I mean, there are some things that are happening as of recently that you guys should know about.
And it's these, the EU has had some ban, some visa bans from Trump.
So, Trump news at a glance: EU could respond to unjustified U.S. visa bans.
Official says European leaders, including Emmanuel Macron, accused Washington of coercion and intimidation.
Key U.S. politics story Wednesday, 24th, December, Christmas Eve.
The EU could respond swiftly and decisively.
What are you going to do against the unjustified U.S. visa bans on five Europeans involved in combating online hate and disinformation?
A European Commission spokesperson has said European leaders, including Macron, accused Washington of coercion and intimidation after the visa ban on the figures who have been at the heart of campaigns to introduce laws regulating American tech companies.
The content moderation law is the Digital Service Act.
And this is one of the sort of packages that European put in place to regulate the technology sector.
This one came live in August 2023.
And this probe was launched close to two years ago in December 2023.
And really, what the European Commission was looking at was sort of in the buildup to some European parliamentary elections, whether there was disinformation that was being spread across Twitter, now X. What this fine actually assessed, 120 million Euros, the penalty actually relates to not necessarily the disinformation.
That part of the probe is still pending, but the regulators made three findings.
One was sort of the design of X, basically that any user can pay for a blue check mark now.
So it's not like the Muslim countries are banning all travel.
It's not like that.
He's just banning four people or five people, five European individuals, including former EU Commissioner Fieri Breton, or however you say that dumb name.
It's like Kier Starmer.
It's just trying too hard.
And four other figures involved in digital regulation, anti-disinformation work.
Like, uh, uh, TikTok had their own set of things that they threatened to find them with, and TikTok complied.
I think Meta and Facebook did that as well and Instagram.
But, like, the thing with the third party, um, oh, I was looking into this.
So, the thing with the third party, like, deep researchers that is not really of contention.
That part is kind of like BS because they'll have third-party people that go and like do like analysis into like how that the uh company is kind of like built and what they're how their algorithm works and all these other things.
And you're basically saying you have to give access to these people in order to actually like do their research on your company for these particular things.
And some of the researchers, sometimes they found that they're biased in some of the things that they're reporting on.
So, that one is like, okay, that one's a little bit of like a nothing.
It's just like ultimately, these people throw people in jail for social media posts.
We should look at the EU and at some of these countries, specifically like the UK, for example, even though it's not a part of the EU.
It's just it's a European country and they all kind of follow the same model of throwing people in jail.
We should look at them like we do the Chinese or the Russians.
If the Russians are such a problem and they're so evil, then like if we claim to affirm Western values and affirm Western values around the globe, like if we can put both around Venezuela, why can't we do it to the UK?
And it's like, oh, you can never say that they're our ally.
Ally fought Hitler.
And it's like, well, what have they, what have they done lately?
If someone is saying this is true about XYZ and you have to believe me about XYZ and I have the proof and then ultimately they're lying, you can argue about what that is and whatnot.
We're descending further into that where the public doesn't like 20, 30 years ago, even though people were still uneducated and they believe in the government a lot more.
I think people were a lot more politically aware than they are now.
I really enjoyed the time period where she used to go on like Patrick Bett David's podcast and she would just like just straight based on a lot of the stuff she used to say.
And like when you take a look at some of her numbers for the live streams and whatnot, maybe I'll pull that up and pull up in a second.
It's a separate YouTube tab.
We have the episode pulled up right here that we're going to cover today.
She's pulling like two, three, four million viewers on live.
On live.
And people join after, and I get that and they re-watch them as I certainly have re-watched them.
I've rewatched the fork Hachuka Waka Haka Waka episode like three and a half times at this point.
And I've transcribed it.
I have like a 10-page Google Doc with all of the information because people are going to come and say, well, and this is what people said in the comments.
I was like, someone explained the Candace Owens thing to me.
Like, how many episodes do I need to watch?
And I literally got like 100 likes and I got like 120 comments.
And it's people saying, you have to watch the entire last three months of the show to understand.
And if you don't do that, then you're operative and you cover up for government and you a shield just like your dad.
And I'm like, I'm just trying to understand what's going on here.
And it's the key legal principle of innocent until proven guilty.
She's like guilty until proven innocent.
She's like saying, This happened.
This is my narrative for what happened.
And you have to disprove me.
Well, like, it doesn't fucking work that way.
Hold on, hold on.
It doesn't work that way.
Like, you make a bunch of claims.
You claim to substantiate all of them by having this guy on.
That's not precisely what I want to litigate here today.
Today, I want to litigate her guest in the Fort Hachuka Waka Blocka Chaka story because, like, I don't believe the official narrative or story around the Charlie Kirk event.
I think someone else shot him.
He definitely didn't get shot with the 30 odd six.
His neck didn't stop, but he wasn't a man of steel, as the doctor reported him saying.
And you can look at this list right here of Candace Owens with the discrepancies of what happened during that day and the weirdness of it.
She is using the legitimate questions.
She is using the legitimate questions around the event to spin a complete, it's called a shit screen.
It's like Jim Leahy talked about this, the winds of shit.
She's creating this smoke screen around this event to where if you ever question any of these legitimate points ever again, all anyone will ever do to you is point at you and say, You just like Candace Owens, and that was just proven, blah, And this reminds me of my dad's stuff so much.
I think she's making money and I think she's enjoying trying to take my dad's spot.
I think it was very interesting.
And my dad pointed to this on the show today, or it may have been in a special episode.
I'm not sure.
And I tend to agree with him.
I don't agree with him on everything or even like a lot of things, really.
But he said, like, it's weird coincidental timing that Loomer and Candace would both do this to me on Christmas and come after me so hard.
And I think that there is some truth to that because, like, what you witnessed over Christmas was like the attempted character assassination, you can go ahead of my father, right?
And like, I was very keen on this, I was very interested in it because I was trying to formulate my response to it, which will be here and then in other episodes going forward.
It's very interesting to me to see Candace Owens try to take my dad's spot as like the top conspiracy person, which is how that's mine.
That's my fault.
That's that's how I see it in my mind.
That's how I see her behavior because she's pulling in bigger numbers than he is.
She's seen as the real person, like the out on the fringe person, the person that actually knows the truth.
And they're pointing at my dad and saying he's controlled by Loomer because he disagrees with her.
Like, all due respect and much love to you if you're a fan of the broadcast.
I can't tell.
Look, I'm allowed to disagree with someone if I don't think that they're accurate or telling the truth or if they're just wrong.
And I think Candace Owens is wrong.
She is.
It's like, you must agree with Candace Owens, or you must have a good opinion, a favorable opinion on her, or else you're blacklisted.
Like, fuck that.
Like, she didn't get to decide anything.
And people on the right, whenever they're in power or whatever, like Ben Shapiro at one point, whatnot, they'll declare people banned or they'll declare people to be not real.
Like, fuck that.
Ultimately, Candace Owens is just talking to a microphone.
Same as us.
There's no, she's not, there's no, there's nothing higher level going on.
She's like she said herself in the episode, because I've watched it three and a half times.
And what I discovered was someone just trying to string together a narrative.
And like, whoever this Mitch Snow guy is, I don't know what his particular situation is, but it sounds like he's had a very rough life in regards to like being in and then out of the military and whatnot.
And the whole point of this, and we'll go ahead and get into the story and I'll try to do a good job presenting it to you, Tim.
And then we'll go ahead and read, read the document.
You're good.
The point of the story is that Fort Hachuka, Candace has discovered is essentially this evil mothership base where a lot of like big things happen.
Right.
And the first thing she starts to insinuate at the beginning of the rant, it's like a 15, 20 minute long portion of the video, is that there were two guys or not, not two guys.
There was a man and a woman because she says that they were having a kid or whatever.
I believe I've just seen the thing so many times it melts my brain.
They're a man and woman trying to start a gym in this town near the military base.
Right.
And they can't afford it.
They get an offer for funding.
The funders come in and they're nice people.
They help them out and the funders screw them over.
Right.
And then the business has to downsize and they have to move.
And then later, Candace Owens, after hearing the story or getting the story from someone, hears from a lady that emails in that she was trained in like anti-Christian like or like Christian like infiltration operations.
And then she'll go allegedly, allegedly, to protect herself, but like she's like, literally, like, she's like smiling, but like, like she like knows exactly what she's doing.
But, but you see, and like the reason, like, like, what does this have to do with Charlie Kirk?
It has absolutely nothing to do with Charlie Kirk, but they, they've, they've spoiled his name, but this, this is no, they haven't, but I understand your point.
This is like the whole, like, up to here, like, like, this entire part of the video is her talking about that shit.
Okay, so the gym owners were drawn to this couple because they were so bold in their faith.
They were like, I loved the bold proclamation of their faith, and we thought this is great.
This, this is going to work.
They accept money from them.
So, you can imagine that they were then completely surprised and shocked when this couple over time effectively staged something akin to a hostile takeover of their company, undermining them while pretending to be their literally what I'm talking about.
Like in Sierra Vista, suddenly, uh, they were forced to relocate and downsize their company entirely.
So now it's 2015.
They are in their new smaller location of a gym.
And I'm going to read this next portion of the email that I received verbatim.
So again, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, because he names an individual, an individual who I do not know, I've never heard of this individual, but I feel it is relevant because I'd like to learn more.
The email continues, quote, we were struggling, sometimes barely making rent, but still serving the community, including military students who came through for four to six month training courses.
Okay, I'm going to stress that again.
Got all these students that are coming in, and their training is lasting between four to six months.
They're signing up for this gym.
Back into the quotation.
One morning, I noticed a female military member lingering after class.
She was visibly distressed.
So I kept the gym open longer than usual to give her space to talk.
We ended up conversing for about 45 minutes.
And what she shared with me has stuck with me ever since.
She said she, quote, could not take it anymore.
When I asked for details, she explained that her stress was coming from a class that she was taking on Fort Watchuka, taught by none other than Bruce Bevins.
She then, oh, well, like I'm gonna call my stream with 4 million people watching me, and then I'm gonna make claims about people, and then I'm just gonna say allegedly, and then I'm not gonna get sued.
Like, we were bankrupted, we got sued for it, they sued us for trillions of dollars, and then she gets to come out here and run her mouth and yap, yap, yap about an imaginary web of lies that she is all she's tied together with a bow and she's presented it to her audience.
The audience goes, You're more real than Alex Jones, you're the real person, you're the smart individual.
I'm just like, Man, you know what?
Maybe we deserve to just fall off the map as a country.
Because, like, if this is the soap opera that everyone's interested in, which is a lady just like just spinning a yarn, essentially, like, my dad's right about this shit.
And people, people who are regular viewers of this show will hear how much I disagree with Alex, with my dad, and understand that when I say this, it's not to be taken lightly.
And just getting back to my document, well, we were listening to the story and just backs up what I had here in my notes.
And then I say by providing this almost mystical hearsay/slash anecdote about one particular incident involving a business gone wrong, she starts then using that to throw shade at Fort Hachuca.
Completely unrelated.
Candace makes the claim throughout the video program that she is divinely inspired.
That's paraphrasing, not a quote.
Everything is always, it's divine providence.
She went to church that day and it was a special day.
Like, I don't think my dad said, and someone clip it and show me it if I'm wrong.
I don't think my dad said, God told me to tell you about 9-11.
I don't think he did that.
But she's like, God told me, or my show is about having the platform to talk about this, this Fort Hachukawaka, Chaka, Baka, Baka, Blackawaka, whatever it's called.
The Bruce Bevins guy, the allegations about training people to infiltrate Christians, they come from an email of unnamed person, female.
And I got it wrong in my notes.
It's even worse than that.
It's like hearsay squared because it's in the email from the people that ran the gym about a girl talking to them.
So like, how do we, how do we even get so?
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There's no, like you're saying, a person of a person gets this story and we're presenting it to an audience of two to three million people as facts.
Well, like the people on the right wing, like she points people like my dad, people like Turning Point saying she's crazy.
It's because she, she, it sucks because like I have issues, major issues with the official story and turning point and Erica Kirk.
But now if I say something about it or I come at it from any perspective, people will tie me in with this.
And I don't agree with this shit at all.
Just because you think that a 30-yard six couldn't get stopped by his neck does not mean you believe in the anti-Christian infiltration operation going on at Forta Chuca.
And I'm not saying the government doesn't do bad or crazy things, but we'll get to it.
And I know it's a lot of preamble.
It's like eight pages.
The thesis statement that you have to take from this live stream is she has this like, she has this guy on.
She has this dude.
All right.
And he apparently is like army or like special forces or like ex that.
I'll kind of walk you down because I don't want people to go, oh, you're just reacting.
You haven't seen it.
I want people to see my notes, but at the same time, I'll break that down to you because I've seen it so many times.
Basically, he claims when they made the big bust on this or whatever, there were American forces that were allowed to go into Mexican territory to complete the operation and deal with the operation on the other side.
And he claims that during that operation, they found like a photo of like the U.S. military and the Mexican military, like with the cartel people, like all buddy buddy or whatnot.
And then he was placed under a 35-year gag order for the case.
So he was never allowed to address it or talk about it or anything.
And I'm sure like maybe that's real.
And maybe probably that's just enough to make you go crazy.
Right.
So he comes back to Fort Hachuka, Waka, Chaka, Blaka, Naka, Waka after 35 years, literally like a couple months after the gag order expires.
It expires in May, goes there in September.
And he goes to get the case documents on what happened on that particular assignment so that he can figure out why the FBI was never like giving his case or whatever language that he gives in there.
He was trying to go to a specific building that had records on Fort Hachuca, Buckachaca, and he ended up stumbling into the secret meeting to kill Charlie.
And he, he names Erica Kirk and he names the head of TP USA security as being people that within 95 to 97%, he recognized them as being there after the fact.
Like when he saw the Charlie Kirk news, he's like, oh shit, those people were there at Fort Hachuca.
And quote unquote, I can never, it was Erica Kirk because my ex-wife had the same eyes.
He was allowed back into the base or wherever he was after receiving a gag order and being controversial in the first place.
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So they just let this guy walk around the base, stumble upon the secret meeting in which he discovers the plot after being banned from this particular right.
Yes, but I mean, the thing for me is that it's like, it's so unlikely that he would be there on the day that this is happening.
And not only that, like, here's my dad made this point on the show.
And people that watch the broadcast know I disagree with him a lot on a variety of different things.
He's 100% right.
When you have a meeting to kill someone, you don't have like, you don't have a dozen people get in a like occupied massive military base and be like, okay, we're going to kill your husband.
My point is that she's milking it for donations because like you make a lot more money if you have comparable viewership.
Like if you have a live that does 2 million views, and then you have like a released video that does 2 million views, the release video, you can leave tips and stuff now, but people aren't doing that the way they're doing with the live chat.
Even if it is like a recorded thing you're premiering, people will still throw money in there, which is why I look at this whole thing, and we'll reference the document and get back into it.
I look at this whole thing as either she's the ultimate grifter, she's the ultimate agent, or she's the ultimate retard.
Well, it gave her legitimacy because people don't trust them.
That's it, ultimately.
But I have my notes here.
So, Candace brings on Mitch.
Mitch is a former special forces unk type.
Candace received an email the day after church on the day of obligation, a holy day.
She went home and it was the first email she saw.
And she repeats this twice.
She's like, I have to believe, like, from like, she literally says, like, my dad says, like, gut level.
He's like, gut level.
Like, I know this is true.
Like, I know this is accurate.
She implies divine providence relating to this is proof during end of episode and when she initially mentions it, uh, Mitch got assigned to Border Patrol work, replacing a marine unit that was apparently too violent or whatever or kinetic, uh, placing sensors on the border, glitch signals coming back from the sensors.
They weren't glitched signals.
It was subterranean, implies underground drug clout, uh, drug traffic, extremely unclear.
Mitch was looking through the data and started discussing it with the Border Patrol.
Mitch asked about subways.
Light bulb went off.
It was an underground tunnel.
Handed off the info for probable cause raid.
That's where they went over the border.
Candace interjects and goes, you're a hero, but you've been prosecuted so much for this.
Apparently, they found Border Patrol commander in photo after a Mexican side of border raid alongside the U.S. and Mexican military.
Mitch claims that 80% of cocaine was coming through the Douglas, Arizona area, which just sounds wrong to me.
Maybe that's true.
Who knows?
Cartel gangs angry because Mitch stepped on their toes.
That's a claim he makes.
Government apparently gave Mitch a gag order.
He was the one that incinerated the drugs relating to the raid.
Ended up getting approached by a Border Patrol agent who had personal information on him and he knew what to do.
Let's go to 3350 because I time stamped it.
I don't remember what it was.
And I want to keep going through this whole thing.
I want to keep going through it because I just, I want people to know that I've watched this entire thing multiple times over because people will say that we haven't watched it, but we dared to cover it.
And it took me a while to figure that out because he's very unclear.
And it's very insulting to the audience to have to be like, you audience have to trust me and whatever guest I bring on, even when the guest like she says she posts everything to her website.
This is literally, I'm not, I'm not agreeing with it or even trying to make sense of it.
I'm just trying to copy what's said in the interview because it makes no sense.
Implies the government won't help him, and the cartel wants to get him and refers to people coming through his windows.
He has the court documents, court cases, which Candace affirms that he sent to her.
The harder he tries to get answers, nobody listens, talking about the government.
So he finally went to Fortachuca to see why the FBI wasn't alerted to his case, get the original records.
Why has this been allowed?
And this is after the 35-year NDA.
Candace relentlessly affirms him during the interview and then talks about the oligarchs who run everything and whatnot.
And like, somehow, like, that's relevant to this and whatnot.
It's just, it's more puffing up of the guest and the witness to prove her case.
So Mitch goes to the base after 35-year gag order, and Candace starts to build the timeline.
Mitch checks in, noticed a guy that has a sheen to him, referring to him being like elite in the military or like being like special operations or like an officer type, implying maturity and special service/slash officer/slash SF credentials sitting on the couch.
Mitch guesses the dude is doing contract work, is waiting on something aged 33 to 40 years.
Candace is really big on this.
Is something I've noticed, it's a really smart tactic to lend yourself legitimacy when you're making up a complete bullshit story, or you're just like using a guy that was at somewhere and is like as a screw loose or whatever.
You're like, and what is the description?
Like, give us the exact description because you're painting a photo in people's heads of the event.
You're building it inside of their head so that when they visualize the thing happening, they think of your version of events.
Not because they've seen it or read it anywhere, it's because you've said it.
And then that's what they associate with the event.
He's trying to get directions to find this building that has the records in it.
He notices a vehicle parked out front, shiny, new.
It's got people in the vehicle, and the vehicle drives off, implying high-level people.
Then Mitch goes home.
I think he saw this is where he initially claims to see Erica Kirk, but he doesn't know who she is at the time, right?
And then he claims that he went back to the hotel, Kendallwood Suites.
He ate Mexican sushi that night and went back to where he was staying.
He got up early to see the sunrise.
And it's like, literally, like, they have a photo of him with a sunrise as proof that he was out there.
Like, like, see in the morning.
So I'm like, Candace has photos for that.
And like that photo is supposed to lend legitimacy to the entire story.
It's just the selective proof they use.
Looking for the CID building, looking for his documents, but the base is very old and oddly designed.
And that led Mitch on a wild goose chase.
Mix accidentally, Mitch accidentally takes video of guards giving him directions for 18 minutes.
So this is just like, this is one of just the random things that like Candace be like, yes, we have the video of you for 18 minutes talking to the security guard.
It's not the video of like, oh, you have a video of Erica Kirk on the base, right?
But it's, oh, we have video you talking to the security guard.
We can prove that you were there just the same way that I say like the night I met you, like I saw you like kill the Easter bunny, right?
And just because I say it and I can prove that I was there, that makes it true.
So, look, one thing that debunks this whole thing is you just look at Erica and you look at Charlie, and then you have to just look at the fact that they had kids together and not even just that, but like just go and look at their history of like their relationship and their marriage.
Not to go to this fort with Chuka to plot to assassinate you.
Like, here's the thing: there's all different types of way you could kill your husband without doing it in public in front of thousands of people.
If you wanted to go kill him, you literally could find some way for some guy to like shoot him while you guys are on a walk and give him a location of where you guys are going.
Why is it this whole entire like thought-out strategic plan that requires all this?
Also, do we not like have the whole thing where she was talking about they had a meeting like the night before where Charlie, she got text messages from Charlie or not Charlie exactly, but the leaked group chat that said like Charlie was at the Israel thing.
No, that I'm saying if that's real, then why was the build?
Was that the buildup of the night?
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They're like, Oh, that night we're going to decide to execute planners.
No, I think the thing is, is like you look at that event, which you're talking about, which is legitimate and can be questioned, right?
And I would point to the number one thing that can show like maybe some animus on the part of like the Zionist coalition when it comes to Charlie Kirk is when Charlie Kirk says, like, I believe like there should be an investigation at October 7th.
I think there was a stand down.
And you said that on PBD.
So you can look at stuff like that and go, okay, that's maybe a little interesting.
And then Candace cut out and says, no, no, Fort Wachuka.
You can't ever talk about it ever again.
This is my problem with it.
Is that it invalidates like that?
This is like, you know, how the George Zinn guy showed up and is like, shoot me, shoot me, kill me, kill me.
This is the media version of that.
This is, this is a distraction.
This is an operation that's been run deliberately by her for either money or to whatever.
Well, I mean, it's not even she has to be designed.
It's just it's monetarily incentivized, right?
And like there is a real lane now, and people can go to my dad and be like, he controlled by Twump and he covered with Twump over and over and over again.
I would agree with some of that.
I would say that he glazes Trump too much.
And I have a problem with that.
I don't think we're in the second golden age.
But at the end of the day, he would get more viewership.
He would get more money.
He would get more success if all he did was go savage mode all day like Candace and make up shit and attack people.
But at the end of the day, people will point at my dad and be like, he's radical.
He's XYZ.
He's this and that.
I, in all my years, besides maybe like 10th planet, which is like in the solar system, there's a 10th planet circles around.
It's wormwood in the Bible and it's going to cause the apocalypse.
He used to have people on about that, about like DMT and stuff.
Look, I can't think anything is crazy.
I can't.
You can point to the SH thing as an example.
I could go, yeah, I match you there.
And I like, I understand that, like, pointing at this, right?
Like, this is another thing where you think you get sued.
And and uh man well, I mean, are you really discussing the?
He say, she say type, that's the biggest thing on twitter right now.
Everyone cares about this stupid ass.
And then people come into my comments and our comments and tell me, and tell us that, like you're not doing your research, you're not doing your job, you have to watch every episode of her show.
I have seen four.
I have seen this particular one three and a half times.
I took notes on the entire thing and i'm just like, like I, I spent time doing this.
Eight pages.
This is not chat gpt.
This is me watching it, pausing it and writing down what is said.
And i've been looking at conspiracy theories my whole life and Tim has been looking at conspiracy theories recently.
You know it's like, take the pain away from the brain man, this is so, this is so drill, cordless drill.
We have so many issues going on in life and society and you know she spent this entire time getting a guy on this episode for an entire hour to spew some bull crap, while literally there's a single mom that can't man talk about problems and all this, and like war and drugs and money and all this.
Do you not know about Mitch Snow and the uh, underground cocaine pilot that he had to investigate?
35 years later, on the particular day he's investigating it, Charlie Kirk's murder is being planned and of course, Erica Kirk had to know her mom works with the military and she's like, hey, look straight smoke.
You don't have anything apparently to say there's no no, there's no way covering hearsay, because hearsay is getting millions of views and we're saying that it's bullshit.
Three million people yeah, three million people watch that probably more on, like twitter clips and other platforms, to be honest.
So, like that's what I have for tonight and I, if you have more commentary, I have no more commentary like it's, it's it's.
It's a jawbreaker for your brain because it's bullshit, but it it's.
You ever watch a video of someone speaking like they're on youtube and it's someone speaking like mock English, like it's not real English, but it sounds like how English would sound if you didn't understand English.
Yeah, that's what this is like.
Yeah, literally like that.
That's what this is, like doodle bomb.
So we've our her, our heads, hurt from this tonight and we hope that the viewers could appreciate the breakdown and we're sorry to do it to you.
I might revisit this in like a month, but I like this is just, yeah, we won't sit here, hop on there and do deep dives on uh, things that we don't Quite understand, and you guys probably want to understand.
But see, she's taken that pole position for herself.
Like, and if you don't see the grift in that, then like, I just maybe, maybe, maybe politics is not for you because, like, this is how it's done.
She's trying to take pole position.
She's trying to take credibility by inventing credibility, by manufacturing this story.
In my opinion, allegedly, I have to state that, of course, just like she does.
But see, Candace, you don't get to just create a narrative and a story and then patchwork things together and then say anyone that doesn't understand the entire patchwork is therefore like a government operative or ignorant and doesn't get to criticize you.
But I have done the work and I have watched the fucking Fort Hachuko Waka Blockachaka episode a million times.
And I was like, hey, I kind of like some of the stuff he talks about.
And I think people would want to hear from him.
So he has agreed.
I was able to get in contact with him.
And he has agreed to come on our show next Sunday at about, it'll be 8 p.m. Eastern Standard, 7 o'clock p.m. Central Standard Time.
So with that being said, if you guys, you're going to hear more about it.
We're going to be reminding you guys to tune in for that Sunday segment.
Not only that, I've got a really fun prepared segment that I'll be doing next Sunday on political corruption and some very fun things revolving around that.
But if you guys have some time on that Sunday, definitely tune in.
He is currently actively running for that governor position and he wants to get his message out on some specific things.
If you got people who are in Florida that would want to tune in, definitely hit those people up, spread the message.
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That is a very big thing.
This is one of our biggest guests that we've had so far outside of Chase and I think this is definitely the biggest guest in means of like actual cultural and political relevance.
And we're really going to have a fun time next Sunday.
So we really appreciate and hope that you join us for that phenomenal interview.
It's going to be very fun and very exciting.
And there's a lot more things like that to come for the gray area.
So like we appreciate everyone here with us.
You say, please let us call in with questions for this segment for him or you're talking about she's talking, excuse me, New Groyper is talking about the Candace Owens.
Everyone, I told you, you're like, people don't want to talk about this.
For me, the thing is to be confident on speaking on it because I didn't want to make my thing and then have someone clip me and go, He doesn't know what he's talking about at 1912 a time stamp.
He's Candace Owens disproves this right here.
I had to watch the entire thing.
I got to say, I'm done.
Like, we appreciate you guys.
I love you, New Groyper.
We love all the callers and all the listeners, all the viewers.
It's just I hate the amount of my life that I lost watching the shit because like, here's the thing.
And schizo people will always do this to you.
They'll always be like, oh, I'm right because I know everything and I have the secret knowledge and the aliens told me and that's you don't understand and you're controlled and you've got the microchip in your brain.
And you have to say, no, no, Like, like, can you actually prove what happened?
You have a photo or video of you seeing the actual thing that's happening.
You can't just go, oh, here's a collateral fact about me being somewhere or doing something 20, 30 years ago.
And then, oh, that magically gives me credibility to say whatever I want.
It doesn't work that way.
It certainly hasn't worked that way for us.
We got sued for trillions.
So she gets to do it.
And I get to listen to it on Apple Podcasts.
And I get to get a Nordstrom ad in between her yap and her yap.
And I just view it as unequal treatment, man.
It's like, well, we said some shit and we get sued for a jillion.
And then you can do whatever you want.
And you can't say that she's not doing material harm and damage to TP USA and their donations.
And look, that is why I like this show specifically and why I enjoy it is because we are trying to shed light on the real things and the real issues and educate you on real things to change the status quo.
Because at the end of the day, Candace Owens doing a deep dive on freaking TP USA and a conspiracy theory on how Charlie Kirk does not move the needle on your life.
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