Rex Jones and Tim Tompkins critique the MAGA movement’s shift from anti-immigration, pro-economy policies to Trump’s broken promises—like ending Ukraine’s war in 24 hours or halting China’s Taiwan threats—while debating systemic corruption (e.g., Epstein-linked banks) and economic metrics. Owl Killer calls in, slamming Alex Jones’ theological guests as dishonest and praising Russian Orthodox alternatives, contrasting older media figures with younger hosts’ awareness. They argue America’s hypocrisy—ignoring domestic crises while weaponizing global tools—undermines stability, questioning whether GDP growth reflects true prosperity amid cultural decline and bureaucratic control. [Automatically generated summary]
The other host, Tim Tompkins, will be joining me in about maybe an hour, a little longer, or a little less than that.
I'm not really sure when he's going to show up here.
We decided that we were going to do Christmas Eve and Christmas because we've been having such a fun time doing the show.
We've been enjoying the feedback that we've been getting so much.
And there's more stuff that we wanted to cover.
But specifically today, I wanted to make it kind of a free-for-all opportunity for anyone that wants to call in and speak their mind.
Over the past few shows, there have been issues with the call-in system, but we did it yesterday and it was like immediately we had three people on the board.
So I don't anticipate any more problems in that regard, meaning I'm excited to actually use that system.
So around the second hour, around the time Tim shows up, maybe a little bit even after that, we'll get into calls.
And then I have to step away probably here.
My watch is an hour ahead.
I keep it an hour ahead.
I'll probably have to step away here in like four hours.
I want to stay on for a long time and talk to a lot of you guys.
I have to go meet up with my family and eat some fondue at excuse me at like 5.30.
And after that, I'll come back and I may even do someone's show tonight.
So I don't know.
I'm just, I'll just speak from the heart a little bit here, just about like my subjective experience since getting back into broadcasting.
This is a lot more fun for me than when I first started as a kid because everything I did as a child, even though it was a lot, like dozens and dozens and dozens of videos, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
It was all info wars.
I had to go to the office to film.
And oftentimes, like it'd be like I'm like 12, 13, 14.
My dad's like, you should cover this.
And I just like, I have to figure out a way how to cover this news story or XYZ.
Here I'm sitting in like my reform dining room.
I can literally do whatever I want.
And when I started the show, you know, with Tim, of course, and Tim was really instrumental in making sure that we followed through on it because I was wishy-washy about it.
I, I got him involved because I knew that he really wanted to do it and that he was capable of doing it.
And I knew the same things about myself, but you got to also have another person with that motion, with that energy.
I just didn't have it.
But experimenting now with the freedom that I have and the ability to do these broadcasts, both on my own and with Tim and with guests and et cetera and et cetera, it's really got me excited for 2026.
And it's really got me excited to go into this full bore and to go into filming every day, doing shows every day, doing man on the street stuff, doing spin-off stuff, doing just like one-off videos, entertaining things.
It's going to be a very exciting and fun 2026.
And I'm very much so looking forward to spending it with you guys.
I've been very proud of the amount of people that we've gotten kind of in this little community already.
And I want to grow it to be a big community.
And I want to do the type of stuff that my dad's always talked about, which is having, you know, a talk show, a radio talk show on TV or now like on the phone on the computer.
Right.
And, you know, that's what always interested me about what my dad did, just from like the style of art, the style of the show.
I like that people could call in and give their own opinions and speak their mind.
And that way it wasn't just a guy talking like a Fox News or a CNN host.
He actually has to be like recognizant and he has to let his audience speak too.
Right.
So I was always a big fan of that.
I always thought that that was really cool.
And we have really cool software, which lets us do it pretty cheap.
And I got to say, it's the thing I've been enjoying the most because you see the modern style of show.
And it's the same with the modern style of plugging where everyone reads a code for a greenspowder where they get 15%.
It's not that it's bad.
I just view it as kind of like classless and like nouveau riche and just gross in that perspective because it's not the way things traditionally were done.
Now, don't get me wrong.
I'm not hating on the concept of a super chat.
If someone wanted to send in a super chat to the show, that would be cool.
We don't have that set up.
That being said, taking super chats and having that be the only way that you interact with your audience and like you have to pay a fee essentially to get on the board.
We're not doing that.
We are having live, full-on conversations with you, honestly, like for as long as you want to stay on the phone.
And we try to get some people off just because we hit like 10, 15, 20 minutes, and then we have other people on the board.
And we're still new at this and we don't have someone switching for us.
I'm manning all of the controls today.
Right.
And like, that's another reason why we plug when we do the show, right?
And I know I literally sound like my dad right now, but it is what it is.
It's whatever.
Because the truth, right?
Like, this is a lot to do on our own.
Me and Tim both have businesses.
Me and Tim both have to run those businesses and deal with employees and inventory and other such issues all day, all the time.
And then on top of that, we got to be ready to go and do the show.
And we're happy to take that responsibility.
I am especially.
I know he is as well.
But we could do a much higher quality show if we just had a few tools to help us.
And that's why it's linked up in the thing.
I'm not going to go ahead and go on a screen here.
That's why if you go to Go Primal Core and check out the products, if you make a decision to support us there, it would really help the furtherance and continuation of the show getting even better.
And what that means to me is, like I was saying earlier, I want to go back to the stuff that I used to do, but with the ability to have more freedom now to do it.
I really want to do man on the street stuff.
I have this idea of like getting the like EU leaders and then getting like Gorlock the destroyer and like these other social media entities that people know about and going out to West Campus or 6th Street and just, you know, seeing how ignorant the public is because, you know, those are a lot of videos that I did as a kid.
And those videos did really well.
That's number one.
We're trying to grow the show, right?
So I'm trying to think of a way to get more eyeballs and it's relevant to what we talk about on the show.
But number two, like it's a public service.
Like people genuinely do not know the first thing about a geopolitical reality or situation.
Anything outside of America and even in America, they're unaware of it.
So I want to do videos like that.
I want to do nightmare blunt rotation videos where it's a joke.
And obviously we're not doing that, but that's like kind of a saying or a euphemism being like, oh, look at this photo of this group of people.
It's so horrible.
Imagine being forced to imbibe with them.
Like you just couldn't do it.
And I really want to make a tier list.
I think we're going to do a lot of tier list videos kind of inspired by MMA YouTube style videos going into the new year, just on a variety of topics or issues.
Because, you know, Tim will spend a really long time doing a deep dive.
And then we want to have the ability for the people to review the information succinctly.
And we had a caller call in and we had a caller suggest the idea of kind of like Crowder did back in the day.
I'm sure he still does it, having a website where you kind of have like a glossary or a dictionary or, you know, like a database of the past points that you've made so people can quickly go and reference.
And I agree because stuff like that was very useful to me early on being like a young kid and getting in political debates, specifically with people that wanted to ban guns, because the 2012 Obama CDC study, it just obliterates any anti-gun argument that you can ever pose.
It's like 37,000 gun homicides, like three-fourths of those gang violence, vast majority of the other ones are suicide.
And then you've got 500,000 to 3 million defensive uses of a firearm every year.
And that's just like one of the stats that I memorized.
And I'm not like my dad.
I'm not like Fuentes where I'm really good at that.
But there are like just being able to reference good information like that.
Like that study is just so good, even though now it's slightly outdated.
I can still pull it up and go, bam, because I remember pulling it up and going to the website and having that neuronal connection, right?
So we want to give people the opportunity to do that.
We also want to give people the opportunity to build more of a community around the show.
And that's why we're going to do more live streams.
That's why I'm going to do solo live streams.
And the way it's going to work going into the new year, and this is the news.
The news is about this show.
So that's what I'm covering today.
I will be doing a show Monday through Friday, or just Monday, Friday, right?
And that time is to be announced, but it's going to be a three-hour show.
We're going to continue with Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday.
That's me and Tim for like two and a half to three and a half hours.
And Sunday's a longer show than Tuesday and Thursday.
We're going to add Wednesday as a group gray area show.
So we will be live, either me solo or more commonly, both me and Tim.
We're going to be live every day except for Saturday.
So really looking forward to that.
Looking forward to really like, it's a good thing because the days that I have the show, I perform better because I know I have the deadline.
So I get the work done.
I clean the house.
I walk the dog when I need to.
I take care of the family when I need to.
And then I just like get ready to do this mentally at least.
And that's really good for me.
And I'm looking at it from the perspective of like, this is 2025.
This is the most out of shape I've been in years.
Like I stopped training essentially at the end of 2024 because I just kind of stopped caring about it, which is obviously the dumbest cope ever, but I just did it.
I just let it go.
And I'm sitting here, I'm 230 pounds.
I'm very upset.
And I'm like, man, I have not been pushing myself like I need to.
And the quickest way to push myself easily is to just do the show every day.
Because if I do the show every day, I'll be motivated to work out every day and do the other work that I need to do every day.
Because it's just, it's lined out in my schedule, right?
I can't not do the show for you guys because I love doing the show.
So that's that positive motivation.
I need to deal with those other things in my life.
And like, that's a real thing, right?
Like, everyone always online has the infinite advice for you about how to improve your life and become like perfect productivity genius and whatever and whatnot.
But the reality is, like, we have families, we have situations, we have, you know, dramas, we have emergencies, we have crises, like people will get in a car wreck, or something will happen.
You got to go take care of your little sister or something.
And that was a lot of my 2025.
Like my granddad got in a horrific auto accident.
Miraculously, he was fine, but the car was folded in essentially, both front and back, hit and run up in Temple, Texas.
And then we find out because he's at the hospital, he's got to have heart surgery.
So then we spend the next couple of months getting ready for that.
And then that happens, and then rehab recovery, still helping, still taking care of it.
And things are still difficult.
Unfortunately, it's just such a brutal recovery from what had to be done.
And I look at it as, yeah, like that's a legitimate reason to be a little off my game this year and having to deal with like a dozen other things kind of like that, right?
But going forward, I can't, I can't rely on that anymore because that's being weak.
So I'm making the mature decision to be here every day for you guys, except for Saturday.
And we're going to get into a real flow because there's a magical thing that happens when you start to do a show basically like daily for a couple to a few hours every day.
You really get into a good flow.
You start having that meta point that you're always trying to make in your mind, like your zeitgeist of how you see the world.
You start being able to express that better.
And I have felt me and Tim get better at doing that on camera.
And I hope that you guys have enjoyed it.
I've enjoyed it.
I've enjoyed it a lot, but I know we can get even better if we work even harder.
So I'm going to check in with the comments and see what y'all have to say.
There's only a few up here.
Yeah, special edition show.
Thanks for reposting.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
Merry Christmas to everyone.
Merry Christmas, Snoozer.
Really appreciate it.
Yeah.
I mean, like, here's the thing.
I got some video clips.
I've got some like big picture stuff to talk about today.
But, you know, just to start off the show before we start doing calls and whatever, in like 30, 45 minutes, an hour, whenever that will be, I just want to talk to you guys about the future of the program because I appreciate the community that's growing around it.
And really, and Tim says this a lot, like we want to hear your suggestions.
We want to hear your thoughts.
We want to hear us or we want to hear you tell us how to improve and whatnot.
That's what we're looking for in the show.
And a lot of the times, you know, like the modern media landscape is so complex.
And you have so many various different parties that started doing broadcast media or started making content for so many various reasons.
It's kind of like hard to pick people out anymore.
But there are truly, like, there are very few small independent shows that are actually not towing a party line or a party agenda.
And there are a ton of them.
Don't get me wrong.
And I know I contradicted myself right there with those two statements.
There are a ton of them relatively, but the vast majority of people you see, large and small, have figured it out.
And they figured out the American Grift economy.
And they go, look, if I'm Democrat cause, if I support Republican cause, I go in this echo chamber and eventually I can become an analyst, a Benny Johnson, a Gunther Eagleman, Sternovich, someone that gets invited to the White House to get a fake Epstein file.
And then that can be my career.
That's not what we're interested in here.
Like I honestly, and then it's why we sell supplements too, to support the show.
I'm interested in selling supplements personally.
I've sold Jones CBD, Blue Vitality, 50%Off.com.
I've been selling supplements for five years.
That is my business.
That is what I do.
I specialize not only in selling them, but in storing them, climate control and whatnot.
I do that for other people.
And that's my like, that's how I keep the lights on in my home.
My intention with doing the show is not to make a boatload of money doing the show.
My intention of doing the show is because I absolutely have to do the show.
And it's been like this for like a little over a year.
And it's just like the news is so insane and I'm so opinionated on what's going on.
And I'm so disappointed and angry in Trump, our leader, for reneging on all of his promises.
And I'm so angry and upset, just really like my worldview is turned on its head.
I was truly, I became died in the wool Trump supporter again, only to just be like trampled on and violated to a degree that I didn't even think was possible.
And then to watch the Gaza genocide, the continuation of the Ukraine war, I just had to start doing a program again.
And I was interested mostly in the geopolitical stuff.
And I met Tim and Tim's mostly interested in economic stuff and the economic factors and how different things lead into different things and stuff in that area and of that nature.
And I was like, you know what?
We should just start doing a show and talking about this stuff because talking about it together organically, having a conversation that we would already have, would just like, that's the natural bond you need to make one of these shows work.
Because I don't want to annoy my audience.
That's number one.
And there's nothing more annoying than two people that are just like, yeah, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
And, you know, like, that's a problem I have sometimes with my dad's show is like, sometimes there'll be a guest and it's just like, oh, yes, And it's just like, well, you know, like maybe we hold different positions.
Maybe we disagree on these things.
And then the comp out to that is not to say, just say like, oh, we disagree or whatever.
We actually go through the issue and rehash it and discover what the point of contention is.
And we don't see a lot of that in both right and left-wing media because it's not profitable.
And it's hard to run a long-term show that way.
But we're doing it because we have the unique bond and basis of respect of us not doing this as a, ooh, it's a show perspective.
Us doing this as friends, us wanting to genuinely share the news and the truth that's in our heart relating to the issues at hand.
And that's what makes it easy to do a show with Tim.
It's easier to do a show with Tim than to not do a show with Tim.
Like I'm having a harder time now coming up with stuff because he's not here and he contributes so much.
And that's a real thing.
And having a co-host on the show, I definitely couldn't go daily every day 24-7.
There's absolutely no way.
It's very rare.
That's why I point to people like my dad and people like Flintes, even people like Harrison.
It's like, that's a different breed.
You got to understand going in and prepping and doing a three-hour solo show every single day.
Like you got to be, you got to be a little crazy to do that.
It takes a lot out of you.
Right.
So I've always had a lot of admiration and give kudos and respect to those people.
And I see people tear my dad down.
I just ask them, like, you do a show for 30 years for three hours every day, six days a week.
And you tell me how that positively or negatively impacts you.
And, you know, people will judge Alex and they'll have, ooh, I call him Alex, whatever.
People will judge my father and they'll have presuppositions or opinions about him.
They'll say he's bought off by Israel or he got the call or whatever or whatnot.
The truth about my dad is that my dad is someone who saved tens or hundreds of thousands of people from getting the COVID shot.
And the legacy of InfoWars for me is the pre-Trump era and then the COVID era coming in, stopping people from getting the poison shot.
And the biggest disappointment for me in the entirety of the just InfoWars saga is us continuing to, you know, give tacit support or to back Trump in his current actions because out of that thing that we did that was so good, which is stopping people from getting the shot, Trump has continued to push the shot.
And not only has he continued to push the shot, he's continued to say the Epstein files aren't real.
And those are the two biggest issues that we kept that flame alive during the Biden era.
And to see that get spat on and put out by the beneficiary himself is very concerning.
And, you know, it's very complicated.
You have 30 years of film history.
They started suing my dad in 2018, but there was a very long and nasty divorce between my parents that started way before that.
And they spent a lot of money during that time.
So you're talking about a man that's really been in court intensely since like 2013.
It's like way over a decade, like 12, 13 years.
He's been in court for various reasons.
And I believe I've heard this.
I don't know if it's true.
I tend to believe it.
Now, I don't want to disparage either one of my parents.
I love them very, both very much.
And I love my mom too.
But I've heard she was the one that told these SH people that we had all this money that we didn't have.
And then that's the reason why he gets sued.
So you look at my dad, you look at Alex, you go, he's not hardcore.
He's not Stew Peters or Candace Owens.
Well, what do those people ever do?
Like, what did Candace Owens start working the trail when Charlie Kirk came around the scene?
I remember being like 14 years old, 15 years old.
When my dad met Charlie Kirk, my dad coming back home, a little tipsy showing me the, what's it called?
The, what's it called?
Business card of Charlie Kirk with the turning point USA logo on him going, look how perfect that is.
And like, so Alex had been working two decades before that.
And then like, you got all these people and you got people like they used to work at Infowars and whatnot.
And all they do is hate on him and bash on him.
And like, you wouldn't have a platform if it wasn't for him.
And I'm not talking about some people.
I'm talking about some other people.
That's not really important.
I'm not here to take shots at people.
My point is, I do want to do a little bit of Alex Jones apologetics and defend Alex because the Sandy Hook people, they sued Remington.
They won.
They sued Remington, the firearms company, into bankruptcy.
They got $71 million.
And then, according to legend, we'll say, apparently, my mom maybe told them that we might have some money that we didn't have.
And then they came after and sued my dad into bankruptcy and the company into bankruptcy for like the following eight years.
So people point to Alex and go, Oh, I'm not happy with his job performance.
You just got to understand a little bit of what he's been through and what he's still going through and how he's trying to battle to protect his archive and his IP and his image.
Because if they do win and they do take InfoWars, as much as I've said, just like, just get it over already.
We'll do a new thing.
We'll make it better.
It will really hurt us and it will specifically really hurt his image because whoever gets it, the AI clone that like the onion will use or whatever, that's coming out so fast.
They'll try to say they own him like holographic Michael Jackson.
So if you're dealing with that and then you're dealing with your life and then you're dealing with the where exactly is the room for calibration or like a recharge?
There really isn't one.
And you know, like I disagree with my dad on a lot of stuff.
I agree with him on some stuff.
I get it.
And I just, for people that come after me off of that, off of who he is and me being his son by relation, I just have to say, like, number one, I'm not that person.
So you should just address that person instead of addressing me.
It'll, it'll make more sense because ultimately I don't control what they do.
That's that's how that's how like the laws of nature work.
Like if I don't influence that bottle, nothing happens to it, right?
And number two, like it's not my responsibility.
Like if you, if the person says something that you don't like and that you disagree with, if I don't like it and I don't disagree, or if I disagree with it, I'll say something about it, right?
But it's not my obligation to do so.
You're not owed an answer about everything just because everyone's on social media.
So I just want to make that point clear.
And we got people in the comments or on YouTube saying Alex is legendary.
What's up, Tim Kennedy?
How are you doing?
I will open up the phone line soon.
Yes, I will.
I will.
If that's what y'all want, we'll go ahead and do that pretty soon.
You know, this is a special edition stream.
I know only the real hardcores are here.
I wanted to play and I wanted to present something though, because this is a video that I often reference whenever me and Tim are doing the show.
And I realize I don't play it enough because it really is so it's everything.
It's everything all in one.
And everyone in the nation really should have seen this video.
And I feel like if everyone's seen this video, then we all would kind of just like stop voting.
I've already spoken to three U.S. presidents.
They come and go.
Politics stays the same at all times.
You know why?
Because of the powerful bureaucracy.
When a person is elected, then they have someone.
People with briefcases arrive, well-dressed, wearing dark suits, just like mine, except for the red ties, since they wear black or dark blue ones.
These people start explaining how things are done.
He sincerely wanted to do it, but did not succeed since it turned out to be very complicated.
That is not the main issue, however, even though it is important.
This is hard to fathom the people have been walking there and changing for decades without trial or investigation.
Can you imagine France or Russia acting this way?
Yeah, and that's the key.
And like, we're going to keep going to this because this Putin interview really is so powerful on so many multiple levels.
Like the other nations of the world cannot afford to behave the way that we behave.
And the reason why we behave the way we behave is because there's a specific post-World War II order that was set up where we're the king daddy and we control everything and Bretton Woods agreement and blah, That era is over now.
And that was expediated by decades between the Trump and Biden presidency starting in 2020 and now continuing forward into 2026.
First when Biden weaponized Swift and then when we blew up Nord Stream, we have shown the rest of the world that it's not Europe and the U.S.
And we've even shown Europe this, that we are not a reliable partner.
We are a dangerous partner.
We will hurt you.
And it's not rational.
And we'll do it because we have the ability to do it and the right to do it.
And that's why the other nations across the world are coming together and saying, well, if America thinks it has this mandate from heaven and this divine right to do this thing, we're just going to take you over.
We're going to take you over.
We're going to starve you out.
We're going to wait for your deficits to hit three or four trillion, which is about to happen.
And then the empire is going to collapse.
So when they point at Putin or they point at G or they point at Maduro and they go, this guy is like the Death Star kaiju monster, level 9,000 super pro.
And if you don't put all your energy into supporting the government so we can fight this evil monster, this guy is going to take things over and ruin your life.
This guy hasn't done shit.
But not only has he not done shit, he hasn't done shit by design because he doesn't have to.
All he has to do is sit back and let the West implode on itself.
And you talk about Ukraine war and what's going on there.
They don't have problem sourcing weapons.
They don't have problem sourcing people.
Their recruitment numbers are like 30,000 a month.
You know how many Ukrainian desertions there are a day?
It's like 700 last time I saw the reported number.
It is beyond anything.
But they will tell you that this guy is one step away from conquering all of Europe.
They have more land than everybody.
It's the biggest country in the world by land mass.
Why would they want Europe, a place with no resources when they literally have all the resources?
It's very simple.
And we had a caller, I believe it was Owl Killer, call in last night and explain all this shit just from step one, like I always talk about, explaining why Europe wants to go into Russia and why Russia feels like it needs to protect itself from Europe going back to the Cold War.
And even past that, you got to keep in mind, 13 European countries sided with the Nazis during World War II.
And then they want us to believe in some imaginary Europe where it's all under the EU flag and they've all been friends forever and it's all one shared European culture.
The reason why 75% of all wars have ever been fought in that area is because those people are intensely violent and they're in different subgroups.
And when you try to merge them, they'll fight each other.
And that's what we're going to return to eventually once these corrupt governments fall.
And this is the point I made on the war room is that these people, the bureaucracy obtains power by initially being competent.
And then once it gets power, it becomes incompetent because the leader doesn't matter anymore.
And it's the system running the thing.
It's essentially a car without a driver, right?
And eventually the thing goes over a cliff because the people that are appointed to rule are not built to rule.
And you look at Putin and you look at someone who's built to rule.
You look at a Keir Starmer.
You look at a Mark Root.
You look at Ursula von der Land.
These people are going to lose.
And if you can't just make that calculation by looking at the parties involved, then I'm sorry, you're not a wise player.
You're ignorant.
You're not informed.
So why would we, States of America, insist on blowing energy reserves of Europe of Europe or the fuel reserves of Europe coming from Russia?
Why would we make them pay three times the price instead for our LNG, our oil?
Why would we make them buy weapons from us?
Why would we make them prolong the conflict XYZ?
It's simple because it makes money.
And hate these regimes, call these regimes evil or whatnot.
At least the Russians were trying to do right by their own people.
In the United States, our policy is monetary.
It's got nothing to do with people.
They're dead.
It's got nothing to do with people's lives, people's quality of life.
It only has to do with money and government contracts.
And Putin breaks it down because a person can come in there, like a liberal Democrat, like Obama, and he can promise something.
So you see in this, and he says it, you can say he's a liar, he's the dictator, evilest man on the earth.
Whatever.
Every world leader, every world leader is evil.
And if you don't think that, like, you're just, you're dumb or whatever.
But I understand you want to live in the Star Wars world.
Look what he says.
He's like, I want to work with the U.S. Like, there's like work that can be done.
Like, they're constantly offering us technology.
They're constantly offering to develop resources with us, like the stuff in the Arctic.
They have like 22 nuclear-powered icebreaker fleet ships that can extract oil at sub-zero temperatures.
We literally don't have the technology to extract the same natural resource.
We can't do it without them.
But instead of us having things be cheap at home and having stuff at a gas station be a dollar or back under 99 cents and just like living in paradise, living in utopia where the world is going great because we're not fighting with each other, we have to back the area in Eurasia that sided with Hitler during World War II.
And then we have to call the people that they're fighting.
I'm talking about the Ukrainian neo-Nazi Banderites.
We have to call the Russians the Nazis.
And it's like that clip I played for Tim yesterday on the show of the Canadian parliament.
And the Canadian parliament is Zelensky is there too.
Of course, I have there.
Visit Trudeau, my boyfriend.
Yes.
So Zelensky and Trudeau are there, and it's the Canadian parliament.
And they got a 98-year-old World War II veteran who fought the Nazis during World War II, or not the Nazis, who fought the Russians during World War II.
And like, what does that make you?
That makes you a Nazi.
And like, ooh, Grouper-based, whatever, right?
Like, that's not the point I'm making here.
The point I'm making here is these people talk about punching Nazis.
These people talk about arresting Nazis, deplatforming people that even like say any of these things, right?
It doesn't mean anything to them at all.
It's all bullshit.
They'll invite a member of the Waffen SS who killed people, probably killed Polish people in Ukraine.
They'll invite a person like that to receive like a medal of commendation and he'll get a like unanimous standing ovation.
That's the word I'm looking for from the entire Canadian parliament.
But then they want to tell you that they deserve to be in political office and rule you and that they're smarter than you and the job is so hard.
I don't believe that at the administrative level, at the tippy top, that running the country is that hard.
I think it's the mid and low-level managers that basically do all the work, right?
And it's the people that control the purse strings, right, that are really silently influencing things.
If you have a president, a motivated executive branch who actually appoints people who can do their jobs, we would have all of the things that we want.
But is the mRNA shot still available?
Yes.
Is the CIA director still briefing Trump instead of Ratcliffe or instead of Tulsi Gavard?
Yes.
Is President Trump continuing wars and multiple theaters?
Yes.
Like all these things are true.
But if we had actual competent people in the cabinet that were there to help Trump, I think things would be less bad, even with the current state of Trump.
And I, the big problem I have, and I say this every time we talk about Trump, is people use the first term excuse for the second term of, oh, he's got bad people around him.
That's all it is.
He's trying as hard as he can.
And that just doesn't fly anymore.
Like we don't, we don't live in that world anymore.
Like the show we did yesterday, we unredacted Epstein Files Live, right?
And that's just me, just literally copy paste the PDF and that they were so stupid that that revealed the like blacked out or redacted information, right?
And in the blacked out, redacted information, it's like 10 co-conspirators and the complicit in like the sexual, like the R charges and blah, blah, blah.
And it's like black and white conspiracy information.
And then Kash Patel months before perjures himself in front of Congress and says that Epstein never trafficked anyone.
He was just a pedophile.
He's just like a little old school teacher who happened to be worth a billion dollars and know every famous and rich and important person on earth.
So once you make the baseline calculation that number one, these people that rule you are not serious.
And then number two, like you don't actually, I'm not saying crash out, but you don't have, you don't have to care what they say.
It's all monopoly money anyway.
It's all, it's all not real.
Like it's, it's just, it's, it's a song and dance and costume party that we've all agreed to for some reason.
Like it shouldn't even be called the president.
It should just be like slot one.
And they just put the person in it and the government runs by itself.
We should just talk about the government because whoever the president is, it doesn't even matter whether it's Biden, Trump, Obama.
They all do the same stuff.
They pander to the voting electorate in different ways, but soon with depopulation and with the robot takeover, that won't even be necessary.
So like, let's start actually talking about our government and talking about fundamental change to our government and fundamental change to the overgrowth of power that the executive branch just gorged itself through Obama, through Biden, through Trump twice.
We've reached a level now where the president is the king and he can declare war.
He can declare taxation.
He can do whatever he wants.
And this is exactly what the founders warned about.
It is.
And people go, that's anti-Trump.
That's being negative.
That's the truth of the situation as it stands.
Trump is just the current person in the position of being the president.
It has only gotten worse.
I'm not saying, oh, Trump caused it.
It's Trump's fault.
It's the fault of the entire process because the American government was designed not to work well.
And that was its strength is that change was slow.
And it meant that we'd be able to preserve a republic.
We've finally gotten to the position where it's like you're driving through a flood and the water has finally gotten up past the windows.
That's where we've gotten.
And there's no more motion.
There's no more escape.
There's no more, you know, trying to find like there's no more air to breathe.
There's no hope.
And unless we get a strong indication from a strong candidate in 2028 that they stand with us, the American people, and they stand on the 2024 platform of what was promised by Trump, which is what we all can support and all can agree on, which is stopping the wars, reducing inflation, restarting nuclear arms treaties.
But that person, if they come around, the closest we'll get to it will be JD Vance, and then he's all Peter tealed up.
So I don't even know anymore.
I try to have fun with it.
I try to enjoy the spectacle of modern America, modern American politics, because it really is late-stage Rome stuff and just like the media space in general.
My lord, I could talk for hours about that.
Maybe I will.
Maybe I'll do that today.
But we've gotten to a point now where people are not ready for when Trump is gone.
When Trump is gone, like I heard Fuentes say this, but I've made this point before, so this isn't an original thought.
We're just Sympatico on this.
When Trump is gone, people are not prepared.
It's been over like 12 years.
When he's gone, every single person they try to plug in to fill that spot, that niche, that energy who's able to grab that mold of what Trumpism or MAGA is.
Every single person, it's going to be worse and worse and worse and worse because Trump didn't deliver.
But they're going to try to emulate his message, him.
They're going to try to make people relate him to the new candidate.
And then they're going to get crushed.
They're going to get destroyed.
And I don't even like the Republicans.
I don't even care or give a shit about the Republicans.
But the fact is, like I heard my dad and I heard Nick say, if the Democrats do win, it is basically over.
Riley, they're going to ban the guns, the censorship.
It's all, it's all going to be here.
But hey, maybe we deserve it.
Have we ever considered that?
Maybe we deserve it for sucking so hard and being such fools and believing in these people that sold us the bill of goods.
And then we didn't actually have the gumption and the cojones and the nerve to actually challenge them when they were nigged on what they ran on.
And like there should be open protest of what Donald Trump has done to the people in Gaza.
There should be open protest about what Donald Trump has done to the people of Ukraine and Russia.
There should be open protest about what Donald Trump has done in regards to the tariffs and open criticism of what he's done in regards to not stopping all these foreign wars.
This is not what people voted for, man.
It's not what people voted for.
And you can look at the economic front and you can go, well, it stayed mostly the same.
I'm not going to hang him on inflation.
Shit's been really bad for a really long time.
But when it comes to spending the last vestiges of the massive amount of money and capital and interest we have around the world on our military instead of our people, like honestly, fuck you.
Like take care of our homeless.
Take care of our hungry kids.
I saw a kid on the street like the other day, like a two-year-old.
And then a MAGA person, that's illegal.
We don't care about him.
And it's like, first off, no, it wasn't.
Number two, like, man, are we really, have we really reached that point?
And sadly, I think we have because people are so in the different buckets.
As my co-host, Tim says, they're in the different buckets, they're in the different boxes.
And that's where they're convinced that they belong.
And on this show, we reject all of that.
We reject that from A to Z. We're just people.
We're just humans.
We're just Americans.
We're Christians.
And we're talking about our country.
And we're talking about the world too.
So I'll look at the comments.
I'll see what y'all have to say.
And I'll keep on talking.
The boomers might deserve it, but we don't.
It's complicated.
It's complicated.
You know, the boomer must be studied.
We must do more study and research into the boomer because it's a very like it's a very tragic kind of cosmic fate how we've ended up because of the boomer.
And it's also kind of like there's something really bad.
What's it called?
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
It's like the worst thing you can do.
And the boomers, their self-fulfilling prophecy is like, just pull up your bootstraps and you'll get it done like we did.
But then they never actually had to do the work.
So them saying that is actually a lie and can actually hurt you in a lot of circumstances, like taking out debt to go to college because I went to college and it was easy and you should too.
So the boomer must truly be studied.
One of these guys in media should run.
Are you talking about EU or here?
I don't want to see a talking head in political office.
I don't want to see Tucker or any of these people.
I don't want to see myself or my dad.
It's got to be, it's got to be someone with a serious background.
It's got to be military, diplomat, law enforcement, someone that's actually, that can actually handle it, in my opinion.
Bingo, the EU or the new Nazis.
Yeah, I mean, they're the old Nazis.
I mean, my dad talks about Hitler trying to set up the EU and like them setting up the EU after Nazi Germany fell.
So like bingo bingo, like you got it right there.
And that's the ridiculous thing is they want us to just like ignore history and like not believe in history and not consider history to be important and just believe the Star Wars story of like the Ukrainian people are the poor little Ewoks and then the evil empire comes and like destroys their store their forests when they're having like a bongo party.
When in reality, they're bombing the ethnically Russian area of Ukraine for close to a decade and making sure the people there can't communicate in their native language to law enforcement schools or any kind of actual authority.
So like discriminating against people along ethnic or racial lines, DEI or racism or, you know, like a woke, you know, as we would call it in America, the Ukrainians are everything that is the antithesis of that.
But you notice like they're the gayest, they're the friendliest one out there because that itself, like that's how they couch the lie and that's how they couch the secular religion.
And when you're able to make the calculation that no nation is truly good per se, I would say America is good, but I would say that has to do with our fundamental values of giving people human rights when these other nations don't do that, namely the EU and Australia with their free speech laws and other places like China and Russia.
And you can get into it and you can go there.
America is the most liberal place on earth when it comes to individual rights.
That is true.
It comes to freedom of speech and self-protection, other things.
So it's all very interesting, but these places that act like just because they're Western, it means that they're civilized.
They're very uncivilized.
It's very uncivilized to throw tens of thousands of people into jail every year for social media posts.
Very uncivilized to do so.
It's not a nicer that it's not a nicer good thing to mandate, essentially, by making sure that people are not allowed to criticize it.
So the people that are a part of that religion will bully the other people and condense them or coerce them into joining the religion.
That's how Islam works.
That's how it grows.
X, Y, Z, and all the other stuff, you know, like it's all, it's all simple.
And that's the thing is like when you look at politics for long enough, you look at just global reality for long enough, you realize they're trying to kill everyone.
They're trying to make everyone hate each other.
They're trying to take everyone's rights and they're trying to keep all the resources for themselves.
And once you realize all that, it's all very simple.
And then from that, going forward, from there, even more, you go, okay, I believe all of that.
And then I don't believe in the mythical figure that they're going to try to give me that's going to save me from all this.
And that's where we fucked up because we relied on Trump to be that mythical figure.
And there is no mythical figure.
Every person has to be awake to the current situation so they can actually so they can actually consciously choose to stand against it.
And just voting in one guy who's different and is going to break the system is not enough because the system itself does not want to be broken.
It is alive.
It's like a corporation having like the rights of a person, right?
Only to like the 10th power, to the 11th degree.
Like the U.S. government, not even the U.S. government, whatever the thing is in DC, right?
Or Langley or, you know, New York or Tel Aviv or whatever you, wherever you want to say it is, whatever that thing is, it is in itself as a separate actor.
It makes collective decisions and it's, it's an AI of people and computers and machines.
And that's just how it all works.
And like you just look at the technology we have as civilians and you think about the government and what they would have for decades.
And like it's not a hard, it's not a hard road to get down your mind.
And you know what?
Once we get there and once we talk about that, we can really start living.
So very, very fun.
Thank you for reposting the stream.
Really appreciate everyone doing that right now.
Alex is the goat.
No matter what anyone says, every single influencer owes him their respect.
Yeah, we started it all.
We started it all.
And that's the key thing.
And people go, oh, Rogan started podcasting, this, that, and the other thing.
The reason why you see all these independent political shows is because of us and because we encouraged it and because we gave people the ability to do so, starting off in the 20 teens.
Right now, remember that.
That's golden era of Infowars.
That's what i'll always be proud of.
That's, that's a great point.
Yes, all right, i'll open the phone lines.
I'll go ahead and do that.
Yeah, we need a real outsider, someone in law enforcement or military.
Yes yeah, people always thought Trump was an outsider.
Turns out he's been a part of the swamp.
All right, i'll take some calls.
I think I got to use the bathroom at some point.
I may take a break before I take calls, but you know what?
I'll just go ahead and take a look.
Uh oh, technical failure.
Same thing happened to Tim.
Sorry guys, you can actually pull the mic stand out if you pull it up too far.
But um let's uh, let's take some calls.
So i'm gonna go ahead and get that set up.
I'm pretty close to having the number memorized.
I think I have it memorized, but I'm going to go ahead and start hosting the show first.
They are the people that haven't done Trump himself.
How the hell is anyone in the alternative media, like as big as your dad, struggling?
Like, why are no pro bono lawyers taking all his cases?
Why is nobody paying any suit that comes out?
Because that is what the left does.
The CNN and ABC, MSNBC, these things are completely, they're bankrupt and they're completely propped up.
What was that BuzzFeed, another outlet that is absolute garbage, makes no money, and they just still prop their people up just to keep them out there generating that propaganda?
It just really eats me alive to see him in a position like that.
And, you know, I buy my supplements from it.
I've been doing it for 20 years, man.
You know what I mean?
And we try to do the best that we can.
But at the end of the day, like there should be a no, there should be people to say, hey, whatever here's, let's, we're here to try to make some things easy on you and still stay yourself.
We don't, no strings attached.
Like that just goes without saying.
And that's what I was saying yesterday.
That like, I think Kim thinks I'm like, like, I actually agree with what the left says.
No, I necessarily, I don't, but I see that our side and the people that can do stuff have not justified their existence to remain in the positions right.
Dude, and I give him a lot of grace in the sense that I know where, like, he drives me.
Don't get it wrong.
Like, some of the stuff that he, like, I'm so sick of hearing about Islam in Israel.
It drives me up a wall listening to it, but I'm still listening every day.
And, you know, like he'll talk about where are the arrests and certain things like that.
And it's just, I understand why he attaches himself to Trump because he knows if Trump fails, he's got some decisions to make.
Like, does he even stay in the country?
Because we're coming for him.
And I totally get why he is as supportive as he's been about Trump.
So I don't, I think like the Johnny Cumb lately's have no idea how invested your dad has been in the, in this movement.
Look, man, we, everybody in my, throughout my 20-year military career, right up until the day I retired, dude, we listened to him every day.
Like it was not, it was non-stop, you know, and you have no idea how much support that that man has inside of agencies and police and, you know, in the military.
And it, it just, I, I just, I just hate to see him feel like, because I, no matter what, like he looks great, but I can tell stuff is weighing on him now more than I've ever seen it in the past.
But certain, I almost feel like he steps into fields that he shouldn't, like specifically the theology field.
Now, I just got baptized.
You know, when we spoke in the Orthodox Church, I just got baptized on the 21st last Sunday.
You know, I was a Protestant majority of my life.
And, but, like, he has certain people on there that just, it's, I, I, I really think that if he got, you know, I know Jay Dyer has suggested him go talk to who's the or who's the Russian Orthodox priest in Texas?
Again, I, he's a little intense and he might, he may be too much, but I do think that there are other priests out there that could kind of be like a spiritual guide for him.
No, don't, don't, don't, do not let, and I, something you're going to, because my catechumic process was five years because I was still active duty while I was doing it.
And, you know, there were some, there was a portion of my career where, you know, I'm, I'm gone where, and I got duty or I have duty every Sunday.
So, you know, I, it really delayed my, um, it delayed my entrance into the church.
But do never, the further you're away from it, the longer you kind of revert back into your old like way of thinking.
And it makes you feel like, you know, you're not, you're not, you're not worth it.
Yeah, that's actually going to do a lot more damage than people think.
Okay.
Because there was an explosion with people going to church in the wake of Charlie Kirk.
And it doesn't matter.
Like, I am of the like the way I look at it is I think God meets people where they're at.
If somebody doesn't have the brain or the intellect, because dude, it took me a lot of research and like a lot to like, I was convinced that, hey, Protestantism cannot be true, but let me find the actual true church.
Because once you start going, look, if I take the Bible, then where does the Bible come from?
But like to like now, I'm like, I'm in the position where somebody like me or like you, God may like be a little harsher on us because we have the intellect and the ability to understand that.
I don't think the Methodist grandmother or the Baptist grandfather is, you know, I think God's going to meet them where they're at and know their hearts.
It's about being intellectually honest enough to be like, okay, like, or not even intellectually, it's like we said, like, the noose of the heart, like wanting to be open to change or learning something or a fact about life relating to God, relating to be closer to God.
And like, I, I do, I have a huge issue, you know, like my mom suffered with a lot of this, like, name it and claim it, like, uh, theology and whatnot, like the Joel Osteen type of people.
And she'll send me like the Protestant pastors and whatnot.
I just got to be like, you know, it's tough.
It's tough with, it's tough with the boomers, especially, man.
No, but like, I love like listening to you and like your co-hosts because, like, you guys are like, it's almost as the awake generations go, you guys are like so far ahead of where I was at your age.
And it's cool to, it's cool to see like how the information almost leapfrogs it away.
No, dude, seriously, like, if I, and that's what I love so much about what your dad used to do, like with the documentaries and things like that.
If you read that Robert F. Kennedy, um, the real Dr. Fauci, I had a good point.
Dude, if you, the physical copy, and like, it's how you're, it's how your dad stuff was, don't believe what I'm saying, gold.
This is what this person, this is what Eric P. Haldrin wrote in Eco Science in 19 whatever.
This is what Vig New Brzezinski wrote in the Grand Chessboard.
And it's like non, it's non-stop of right.
It's non-stop with Dr. Fauci.
It's like you can't, it's not Kennedy saying this.
It's this is from documented sources.
And you take it up with the sources.
Don't, you know what I mean?
And this is a lot of their own stuff is like you can't argue with it.
This is their own, this is their own mouth.
This is their own research.
This is their own job.
So like, and that's what I, that's what I love so much about what your dad has done.
Um, and you know, Jay Dyer talks about that.
I don't think that there's a better political, geopolitical analyst.
And like, he almost has no dog in the fight.
Like, you know, Jay's conservative, but in the sense that he's very detached and does not have about the politics.
Yeah.
And I think that I think that I, and that's kind of where I'm getting in the sense where I'm right with God.
I, you know, I want the country to do well.
You know, I'm still going to, by my actions, I, you know, I want people to emulate what I'm doing, but I don't, I realize that it's a much bigger, it's way outside of, you know, mine or your hands.
Now, I do, what I am noticing, though, with the whole, and like, I want Trump to do great, and I, I, I really do.
But what outside of ending the wars, which we brought up yesterday, right?
He still needs Congress to, he still needs Congress.
And I think one thing that, unfortunately, with how big of a person that Trump is, that we did, we haven't gotten people in a collective running for office, like running on core tenants.
And and the but it's like the Democrats, in the sense like they have certain things, like as crazy as they like the freezing the rent stuff, right?
Right, affordable housing.
What the hell does that even mean?
But if they're all running on it together, everybody deserves health care, they're all running on it together.
We don't know what it means, but it's like core blocks.
Like, our stuff should be repealing the Federal Reserve, literally, no more wars.
People should sign a contract that say I, if I vote for a foreign war, I will, I'm, I'm automatically like, it's not one more, not one more bullet, not one more bullet donated to any one of these countries that's going to do something crazy.
And that's that's the position of the young people, and that's why the Republicans are going to get they're going to get, forgive my terminology, they're going to get graped by the Democrats coming into 2026 and 2028 is because the kids don't want war.
And like, this is what, if I'm in a room with people in their 20s and we're talking about this stuff, universally, people will be totally politically ignorant on every front, but they'll know about Gaza, they'll know about Ukraine, they'll know about something, they'll know about people dying.
And there's like the world is so terrible.
I look at the news and I say, I see dead people, I want it to stop.
And who's the who's the person or people doing that?
It's our State Department, it's our government.
And people associate our government with Trump.
And they're going to, the, the issues that people had, the Democrats had getting people to vote for Kamala, they're not going to have those issues.
And like for all, for all her crazy ideas, like she doesn't stop.
She's like, she will keep going.
She'll keep going.
She's young.
She's energetic.
She's a woman.
She's a minority.
Like, she checks so many boxes.
And like, I actually, I actually do think she will kick the system over.
Like, I, I, or she'll die trying.
You know what I mean?
Um, and I think that I, I wish Trump would say, Hey, I cannot do all this on my own.
What I can do is I can stop the war.
I'll stop the war.
Do that.
But we need to, we need to run people in a coalition on certain issues, repealing the Federal Reserve, no more wars, end of immigration.
Like a certain, certain thing, like, I'm like, I don't want to make things about myself, but I had, like, I'm mostly of Italian descent.
When my great-grandparents started to come over here, there were quotas, man.
They went through Ellis Island.
There were quotas.
And the majority of their family could not come.
Hey, it was the early 1900s, and there were quotas.
And then all of a sudden, you got you end up in the Great Depression.
And hey, everybody else has got to wait.
I have my, but I also have Ashkenazi Jews from Russia that immigrate, that go to Austria of all places.
My great-grandmother gets into the United States during Hitler's rise, 39 of her relatives write letters back and forth, and they just stopped coming one day.
So we don't know for sure, but 39 of our relatives probably died in the Holocaust.
Like, I'm not looking for, like, I don't need sympathy or anything like that, but I'm saying, like, that is how that was the reality of like America was a privilege.
And I've always believed, you know, of course, human nature and all of us being equal, besides that, like, I believe, I believe in that, of course, and every single person is made in the image of God.
I believe if you're born here, you get special considerations.
And I truly do believe it.
And I believe that the privilege to immigrate here so that your children can be born with those same privileges.
That's a really huge thing.
We've kind of like, it was the boomer culture of being like, it's, we're all one, man.
It's okay.
It's stolen land anyway, dude.
It was that culture that made us kind of forget about the value of what we had, right?
Because I would argue that every group of people that's here and it has been here for a long time has a history of why they should remain here and their right to be here and their contribution to the American system.
Right.
And then you just bring someone in randomly in the 80s, like Fuentes gave the example of my dad's show.
And like, how do you expect that person to be the same or not?
Yeah, 10 million people come in under Biden, like one to two to three million.
It varies every year, legally come in every year.
The country has a population of like 300 million and some change and whatnot, like 350 million.
It's going to be a very different place in 10 to 20 years.
And then the groups of people that will have taken advantage of that and be in a better position, they'll be open about it then, but then they want to act like now that it's all like, it's all it's all friendly time.
And that is where I see, like, I don't like like the Islam discussion as it relates to America.
Like there, it's a, it's a tiny percentage of the population, but the book does say to take over and to kill people.
And what I'm there, but also what you do is you take illegals cannot, or those new people that will be green card holders, they cannot count in the consensus.
And what that will do, that will bring California to power, New York, Illinois.
And what I'm proposing, they are, and that's the problem.
What I am proposing is give the people that have been here for a decade or whatever, give them green card status, but they can never become citizens no matter what.
But I mean, you put, you put them, you put them on the spot and you run Republican.
Okay.
I'm telling you now, the Republicans are going to hurt with the Hispanic community because they are seeing as they're seeing, hey, you're just grabbing random people off the street.
Like they're going to hurt because of that, because that is not what Trump ran on.
You ran on deporting violent criminals.
Like that, those are easy things.
Like go to Rikers Island, go to a Cook County jail.
Like that is so easy.
Get rid of the violent gang members.
Get rid of everybody that was committing fraud up in Minnesota.
Like those are easy things.
But I mean, like, you put the Democrats on the spot, vote for this, or you really don't care about these people and run Republicans on that.
Hey, we have an immigration fix.
This is our fix.
We're going to legalize the people that have been here for a certain amount of time.
Nobody in the last four years.
They'll never become citizens.
They will not be able to vote against your Republican interest because that was the problem with Reagan's amnesty.
There's not a single Republican or Democratic politician worth their salt in office today, besides Navy Massey or one of the oddball people like that, that would ever even try to implement policies like this.
And I think what you're talking about is what a lot of people voted for or had in mind when they voted for President Trump, right?
I know I did, or at least some version of that, some example.
The problem is, everything is seen as mean.
You are a mean, bad person if you are for a policy that reinforces the version of the country that you'd like to maintain.
Right.
And like that, that's why I like, and I got to go, I got to go to another caller.
I really appreciate you for calling in.
Yeah.
But like, that is what I do appreciate about Fuentes is because he doesn't play the game of like, oh, like we have to acquiesce.
We have to be nice.
We have to, we have the ball's in your court.
Like, we're going to play the game your way.
Like, yeah, like we can't, we, we can't concede, we can't concede these points of contention.
And then they're gonna try, but what they're gonna find is that people uh that's their line in the sand.
They can outlaw whatever they want, but but there aren't there aren't enough ATF agents on this planet to be able to do something like a gun confiscation or even a like an assault rifle compensation.
It's kind of like the boogeyman.
It's like every time that a Republican runs, what are the two things that they always promise guns in a strong military, something like that?
And I mean, I just, I think, I think people are sick of everyone from the past four years or everyone for the past year and a half, I guess I should say.
I think everyone's done with them.
And I think, like, you're talking about AOC, an Owl Killer also said AOC, and he said that's who they would run.
I mean, the main comparison to the boys that I made is when I was watching it, whenever it came out, I think it was before the election or whatever, and maybe the election was going on.
I was like, this is just like over-the-top, outrageous.
Like it's designed like rage bait, propaganda, predictive programming for people, like the protest battles and whatnot that you see between like the pro-starlive people and then the pro-Homelander people and whatever and whatnot.
I look at that and I'm like, damn, maybe we are actually gonna get that.
You know, like, maybe that's what people want.
Like the one after the next, like, like the movie with the guy from Breaking goes, like, what kind of American are you?
I think that's what people want.
And that's what worries me.
It's like, once the nation decides that it's fun to go into anarchy, we're screwed.
You know, the whole show is meant to be a sacrifice.
And so they're making fun of everything.
Now, I mean, it does it have a liberal stint to it to some degree, sure, absolutely.
But, you know, I think it has a, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of like, you know, Trump is Homelander, a less, you know, what's the word I'm looking for?
A less likable Homelander.
Homelander is more favorable than him.
And everybody in his cabinet's looking around and Pence and all that stuff goes down in the election.
And that doesn't negate the fact that it was stolen, but Pence, I mean, Pence was really the first one to turn on Trump at the end there.
And I think he might have been ahead of the curve.
I mean, everybody was mad at him for doing for just going along with everything.
And I know that he had some part in the failure of January 6th, but we're seeing the mask off Trump at this point.
Yeah.
And, you know, I mean, he is our, he is our first and greatest Jewish president, according to Mark LeBenz.
He's our, he's our, he's our first two-term Jewish president.
LBJ, you know, one term, but we got two terms now, so it's okay.
Like it's, yeah, no, it's, it's crazy that they go over there and they put on, even if they're, they're, when they're not Jews, like they're not even ethnic Jews, they put on the tiny hat and they touch the wall.
Like, like, you have to be, well, what, what is this?
Like, did we vote or consent to this?
And I think, sadly, I think that we did when we decided that we didn't care about it enough to make it an issue decades ago.
And I know the people that did make it an issue decades ago are very important.
Well, you know, you know, that, yeah, that report that came out in 2015, 26, or somewhere in the 2015 to 2018 range, was that he did convert to Judaism.
And then he brought in that heretic, Paula White, which, which I'm going to go ahead and make a disclaimer.
You know, the Protestant thing that I know the last call was talking about.
I mean, there's really a lack of knowledge there.
Like, that's like saying that all Catholics are rapists because a couple of priests went and raped some children.
Well, yeah, but it's like, it's like, it's like we're propping up the worst version, you know, of it.
And it's like most, most Protestants are becoming rapidly anti-Zionist.
Dispensationalism is dying.
I mean, there are certain, like, certain denominations that fall under the Protestant umbrella that are just kind of lost.
But that's been a thing since like the 70s and 80s.
You know, it's like there's actually like you got the Joel Webbin type of Protestant who were really solid and, you know, and basically, you know, but it's just kind of he's he's embodying the sentiment that, especially like a lot of young young leaders in Protestantism, you know, how they hell it feel.
I mean, come around them.
You know, nobody, no pastor that I know, and I know a whole lot of them.
None of them, you know, view Israel favorably in any meaningful way.
And a lot of them, you know, like they're returning, they've kind of gone back to the Reformation.
And that's where they're realizing, like, hey, this is what the church father said about all these issues.
Well, the problem is the merging and the Judeo-Christian thing that Ben Shapiro and all of them cooked up a decade or two ago, or much longer than that, but they really started to implement it.
The problem is they literally change the Bible.
They come out with the Schofield Bible and they program an entire generation of boomers in various different denominations.
It doesn't matter which denomination, as long as they use that specific Bible, the Schofield Bible, they program them into wanting to worship and create like a modern-day state of Israel.
And Israel in the Bible is not the modern day Israel.
It's not the land.
It's Abraham's seed, which is fulfilled in Jesus Christ, which is fulfilled in everybody.
I'm just going to give you some encouragement here.
The Schofield Bible is a translation.
It is a translation, a poorly done one done by freaking the Rothschilds and a freaking con man.
Okay.
And I would say this: you have the problem isn't necessarily a denominational thing.
It's a boomer propaganda programming thing.
And the younger generation sees how retarded it is and they hate it.
And I mean, we, like, for example, like most Protestants use something like the English Standard Version or the New American Standard Version, which are not, you know, that they're, they're, you know, they're word-for-word, more critical translations and do not, you know, do not include all of his commentary because, like I said, it's just one translation of many.
And so, you know, like I said, I know a lot of even old people now.
I don't know a whole lot of old people that use a Schofield.
Like, even that's dying out.
And because it's just, it's just there's better stuff in modern translation that are easier for people to read.
But the time's coming.
And this is what I want to warn, you know, let it be heard here first.
These Zionist shields are balking up the wrong tree because eventually we're going to elect a president who goes beyond just saying it's okay to be, you know, it's okay to be white and heritage Americans do exist.
It's going to go to, hey, a complete moratorium on all immigration.
It's going to be deport all of these people, even the people who have unlawfully gained citizenship.
Because I mean, that would be the first thing that I do.
The first thing that I would do would be obviously deport the illegals, right?
And cancel all visas and send them home.
But the next thing I would do is I would go through every single citizenship application in the past 20 to 30 years and I would look for any lie, so too, any inconsistency.
And then once I found any inconsistency, because you will, because a lot of them do lie, and even procedural errors, I would revoke their citizenship and saying you gained it under false pretenses and then send them back home.
That being said, like, there are populations of people that have been here for a very long time in specific areas.
You can say they haven't assimilated.
You could say the Chinatown people haven't assimilated.
Don't want to just paint all those people with one brush.
So, I understand your position.
And I, here's the thing: you are right.
Americans one day will get angry enough that they will elect that person that will do those things because it's what Americans have been voting for, and they keep getting cheated out of right.
It's just a question of when that happens and whether that happens before the collapse happens.
So, I'm now joined by Tim Tompkins, my co-host on the gray area.
We uh, we intellectually, we intellectually grope them.
That's the thing, it's it's nobody, nobody can provide, nobody can provide a better alternative to the problems that we're having.
Can't say much, you know, we don't, we don't judge, we don't judge people or groups, right?
Um, you know, for things that individuals do, which we agree with.
The problem is that when people collectively do bad crap together, and when there is a collective group, like for example, like with the with the Jews, you can say the Jews and be intellectually and factually 100% correct because they gather together in massive enclaves multiple times a year and under the banner of the World Jewry Conference and the world Jewish Congress.
So, like they have a world, they have a world congress, but you're not the new IAEA definition of anti-Semitism as addressed by Australia is that you're not allowed to criticize the state of Israel, but they have a world congress.
So explain that I was asking Tim, because I know, Tim, you're going to make the point of like, not all people are the group and there are people in a government that, of course, do things X, Y, Z.
But if they have a world congress where they act globally and then they are, they're also local to one small country.
I'm not really like sitting here going to be like, oh, the Jewish, you know, support the Jews and stuff like that.
There's nuances to everything.
All I, all I have an opinion towards that is when you're talking about the Jewish thing, I keep trying to tell you, you got to somewhat separate just a little bit.
Like, I know Israel is a Jewish state, but like there are people, Jewish people have had money and banking power for a very long time.
And it's not for me to sit here and be like, well, Mossad paid me to come on here and say it.
Okay, Jewish people are powerful.
Other groups in the world that are also powerful.
Like I put some Asian cultures like Indians in there.
And the reason why is because they have this collective society thing that they do better than other, I don't know, Jewish is not an ethnicity, but they're, they like, they basically help each other.
And they all like they work collectively together to build together.
And then they, by doing that, there's a mutual symbiotic relationship that happens there in which a lot of Americans, and even in my, like, I would say for black people specifically as well, you have a more individualized perspective on how we approach like, not even just family, but the community in itself.
Every, it's like almost every man for himself.
So when they have that natural tendency, because they built that in the culture, they're going to naturally rise to the top because it's like a shared resource.
Now, it doesn't mean like what they're doing is correct when it comes to certain things, like the policies and X, Y, and Z. I'm just looking at the fundamentals of like how, you know, were they, how do they continue to be at the top?
If you look at the fundamentals of how capitalism works, there are certain countries that are beacons in which it is easier to do business and where most of the transactions happen.
Because the US dollar is the reserve currency of the world and because we have a lot of influence over the world, we have created a natural lighthouse for business to be done.
Now, it doesn't mean that business isn't being done in countries like India or countries like Israel, but the market, the total accessible market, the tangible accessible market is completely different because they haven't built the systems that America has in which it's the fastest route to getting to a level of success.
And that is what causes their culture, just others.
Well, if it wasn't America, it would be somewhere else.
It doesn't mean that, oh, we could literally shut everything down and be like, okay, fine.
That just means someone else becomes the world economic power.
One of the fundamental reasons why America is so powerful and we have so many resources is because we take a lot of the talent and the resources.
People are making businesses here.
They're not making them overseas in an India or Israel.
Like they're not making these multi-billion dollar companies.
So we have a natural ability to keep attracting them until we get to the point where that doesn't become the situation.
But that doesn't mean I'm going to sit here and be like, well, everything Israel does is right and X, Y, and Z. I'm just saying, look, if you like them, you don't like them, fine.
But there's something you can learn from how they actually practice their business.
And you create your own culture around doing something in your own aspect.
You have conceded that they are a group because they're communal in aspect, and you've encouraged people to gather together in groups, which is what people would call identity politics.
Not to say that, like, first of all, I'm for the American people, right?
The actual American people.
And, you know, we've been propped up as this world reserve thing and all of this stuff that we've done.
And it's not been to the betterment of its people, which is the entire purpose of our government.
I would say that the government has an obligation to govern and set policies that benefit Americans and put the American interest first, which is the whole nationalism take is that if we are going to be like the country, when it was designed in the Constitution, said it was a government of the people, for the people, and by the people, is how it said.
Our government in no way means that.
Half of our government are people from Somalia and India and every other nation.
And it's like, if you want to pitch the idea of a global world government and say that America is the head of it, then let's make that public and give that up to the people.
But if we're going to be the United States of America, it needs to be for the United States of America.
And what that entails is, is putting our collective interests first, which means this melting pot ideology.
Send it back to where it came from, because it's like the people who are pushing diversity, the DEI, and the people who are pushing all of this ideology that's destabling our nation, they have their own home country and it's for them by them.
You know, it is.
They are the most nationalistic nation ever.
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So the way you have put interest, China puts China's interest first.
The last thing I'll say about that is, yes, I'm very much so pro-America.
love my country, love my people, love everything that America stands for.
As far as just touching upon the point where it's like, well, America has to put their best interest.
First, the only reason why we're number one is because over the decades and probably over the last two centuries, that has been the policy that has allowed us to get to the top.
The policy of putting ourselves first in which we position ourselves to get the best deals.
That is how we, that is how we operate on a, on a macro level.
The problem is, is that somewhere along the way, the people who were making a lot of money made a lot of money really fast and forgot about the rest of the people and it became a greed thing.
So that's also another thing that comes into play.
And New Groyper and Tim, I appreciate both of y'all's thoughts on the situation.
I like the perspective that New Groyper comes at it from saying like, yeah, you talk about the growth in America being number one and all that, but has that necessarily been the best for America?
And I totally agree from the sentiment of no, like only since World War II, things have gotten worse and not better.
And we've had more rope to hang ourselves, essentially.
So I'm starting to get there just on my thinking on being so disappointed and angry with the government.
And you realize, well, if they run on this stuff and they lie about it every time, then that's not in fact their policy.
What is their policy?
Their policy is to actually run the country like it is a company, right?
And to make the most money or generate the most money or just have all the different mouths of the system fed.
And I'm coming to that reality.
And that is truly how I believe the government works.
And that's why I'm like, the government is not legitimate because it's not even designed to help the people.
And I've spent a lot of time doing research over the last amount of time, couple of weeks.
You know, this, all this stuff around like immigration and world stuff and all there are, it's really a smokescreen for the people who are actually causing the issues.
And I'll give you like a perfect example.
Like, you know, how like you said on the last show, you were like, well, BlackRock is buying up a bunch of properties and it's causing the root thing.
And that just is the mainstream narrative that they let carry away in order to distract from the fact of like what's actually causing the problems.
And I'm not saying that like things like immigration isn't a problem here in America because it is one of the reasons why I would have, why I voted for Trump in that time period, but it's not the leading reason for why we're in these situations and why the average person is sitting here struggling and can't find a job.
Just so you guys understand, and everybody who's watching this, the number one reason for people not getting jobs or why there aren't enough jobs, it's one factor.
Now, if you look at the fundamentals of what causes a recession, it actually has nothing to do with the things that everybody argues with each other on X. Pay attention.
When it comes down to a recession, a lot of that is driven by economic policies that are set from a government and a business perspective.
A lot of these people, just like in the 08 who got bailed out and made a bunch of risky spending practices, caused employment rate to go to like 10%.
And that had nothing to do with an Indian guy, a black guy, white guy, Asian guy.
Was strictly because these people lied to the American people about what they were doing with the system and giving risky loans for no reason.
And the government bailed them out.
Inflation is a big one as well.
You look at why we're in the, why we had 9% inflation, which leads to the recession.
It's strictly because Biden pumped the $6 trillion into the market irresponsibly.
You look at, okay, well, now why are companies laying everybody off and why people can't find jobs?
It's because the Fed has to raise its interest rates.
It has to increase them in order to prevent inflation from getting out of control.
What happens when inflation is at an all-time high and they have to increase rates?
It means money becomes more expensive to borrow.
Okay.
When it becomes more expensive to borrow, companies don't have access to free money and they cut back.
And the biggest reason, the biggest reason for why people are feeling that they're feeling right now why companies aren't hiring is because they don't hire when there's a bunch of economic uncertainty.
And we have created that under this Trump administration with all the stuff that we're doing with the tariffs and people just not trusting the United States and gold's at an all-time high.
So we got to look at the fundamentals.
That is actually the driver.
And while we're sitting here arguing about these things and what the Jews do and what the X, Y, and Z does, the real problem just goes under the radar and they're able to get away with it every single time.
We paid $25 billion to JP Morgan and Chase during that.
At the same time, they were using the funds to money launder for Epstein.
So in theory, we, the American people, paid to help bail out JP Morgan as they were trafficking children and, you know, via the Epstein network, which they did get fined and prosecuted for, but it was pennies on the dollar.
People don't realize how difficult it is to do the show and just to come in here and be able to perform.
And we're sitting here, like we always talk about, not having like a circle jerk discussion where we all agree on the same thing.
Like, this is what's fun.
People want to hear a talk show about people arguing, discussing, debating the various, you know, political ideologies and thinking of the time, right?
This is something I've already believed for a very long time.
And it's nice to see Putin shedding some light and having some like, because you only really just ever have the conversations with your buddies about it.
This is why this dude is the evil dictator who's the worst person on the planet is because he is actually telling the truth.
That's actually how the world works.
And like when you compare just this one short clip of Putin, you can look at various different interviews of Putin and whatever you think about him and his policies, like they're all great from the perspective of like political thought and actual original thinking.
You look at this and then you look at a Trump dance in front of a rally of boomers trying to get like donation money.
And like we are not a serious country, right?
This is a very serious person explaining what the problem is.
And then we got like tap dancing and there's and there's no black suit for Russia.
He sincerely wanted to do it, but did not succeed since it turned out to be very complicated.
That is not the main issue, however, even though it is important because it is hard to fathom that people have been walking in there for chains for decades without trial or investigation.
I also don't want to live in a necessary, like, cooperation is fine.
I also don't want to live in a Putin society where like I basically could get like assassinated while I'm on a plane because I've dissented and shit like that.
No, they do, but like, you have more ability to navigate around certain things than you ever would in Russia because he is the head and he, what he says, he has a lot of yes men underneath him.
So there's no reason like it's not like the that Russia is like exonerated and that Putin's just a really good guy and saying great things about America.
He's done shady stuff behind the doors where he's backstabbed.
Everybody does that.
I just but remember I said negative feedback loops, right?
It's based off of the, you can read it here, represents the total monetary value of all goods and services sold within a country over one year divided by its population.
It's about the standard of living for that person in that particular country and how they're existing because that's that's the real that's the only concrete one.
Like any country could be like, well, we're striving to do better.
But then you actually have to look at the boots on the ground and see how the people are feeling and how they're living.
Well, I mean, you say that, but then like you have a country where GDP is high and then people can't afford groceries and we're going to war with everyone.
This is a really weird analogy, but just hear me out, guys.
And the actual economics of America is a little bit different.
So let's say this is the beginning of time and then this is like end.
What ends up happening in a recession is like, okay, it's a pullback from when we're going high.
But when a recession happens, it's temporary.
And the reason why it's temporary is because things can't just go up indefinitely.
There's always an adjustment period that's happened since the bane of time, since we've been in this world of capitalism.
Every country experiences this.
All you need to pay attention to, and this is why they say don't try to like actively trade in general, you have to look at the net direction of how things are going.
And I can give you an example like SP 500, or let's just look up recessions GDP graph.
This will be easier.
GDP will look up USA GDP graph.
Okay.
This is going to make sense in a second.
Okay.
This is perfect.
So, guys, when you're looking at economics and you're looking at GDP, and this sounds really stupid, this is where we're at when it feels like a recession.
It means everything kind of like comes down.
And it doesn't mean that the average person isn't feeling strain right now.
It's a pullback because you can't go up indefinitely.
Now, we are at a certain point going to have our day of reckoning and we'll have potentially a big collapse where like everything goes down significantly, like the Great Depression, but it always ends up finding a way to go back up.
And that's because a lot of people rely on the United States as its like backing until it's not.
Okay.
So that's all I'm not sitting here trying to be like, oh, well, you know, Russia can't be part of the United States in a cooperation and stuff.
I'm just saying not everything that's glitter is gold when it comes to some of this stuff.
CPI doesn't factor QE at all.
What is it called when you have to pay for air?
Not sure.
hold on one second okay so i think rex went to use the bathroom real quick Yeah, that's pretty much all I'm just trying to say.
Is just, I just get careful when I just try to be careful when I make a certain statement because I don't want to like lead people into believing like things aren't good or they aren't fundamentally bad.
I just, there is a certain level of data you got to just pay attention to to actually determine how you're doing.
And all I'm saying is, is like, at the end of the day, you don't know how good things you have, how good you have it until you lose the things that you take for granted.
And there's a lot of stuff that we in America take for granted.
That is like everyone, everyone does that.
I do that myself.
You know, there's a lot of things that we have as a country on like a day-to-day basis.
And then I've been to other countries and I'm like, oh, like the convenience stuff.
You know, I'm like, oh, you can't just DoorDash this thing to yourself.
And they're like, we don't have that.
And it's like those types of things that like, you know, it's very easy to pay attention to highlight, but then you don't see like all of the extra stuff that we have, you know.
So you guys let me know what you think in the comments about that.
You guys can disagree.
I'm not trying to be like red pill or blue pill.
I just literally like to bring a little bit of data to it because it just makes everything a little bit more cleaner sometimes.
Okay, Rex is about to come back.
Yeah, I'm sorry about the audio here, guys.
That was, I this is this is a very quirky setup sometimes.
I'm not gonna lie.
How's everybody's Christmas Eve going?
I want to hear you guys.
What's up?
Smoke?
How are we doing?
Anyone else want to talk with me?
Damn, I'm just going to have to sit here and talk to Yap with myself the whole time.
How's everybody's Christmas going?
I'm so glad you guys are here with us.
You could literally be with your friends and family, but you chose to stick around and actually watch another gray area episode.
I don't have any audio, but you might find it interesting to go through them, Tim, if you just, because you have this stuff already, if you'll go look at the YouTube clips that I have.
The thing that I thought of today when I was thinking about, okay, what are we going to cover?
What am I going to cover?
It's the next one of the ones over here.
Here's the thing.
I was thinking about we don't have to play it yet.
The thing I wanted to cover is the promises that were made and the promises that were broken.
And the reason why everyone voted for Donald J. Trump.
Once my clenched fist went up and it was high into the air, you've all seen that.
The crowd realized I was okay and roared with pride for our country like no crowd I have ever heard before.
Never heard anything like it.
For the rest of my life, I will be grateful for the love shown by that giant audience of patriots that stood bravely on that fateful evening in Pennsylvania.
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Donald Trump took the stage and made chance of USA from the crowd.
And it's such an extreme switch where you go from a guy that's hiding in the basement and his administrative team is running everything versus you have an administration filled with incompetent people and the leader is like ordering everything to be done and is incapable of actually rationalizing or coherently planning that action.
You go from like zero to 100 and it's like you're trying to drive that car straight down the road.
And it's like you talk about going a little bit to the left and then you go way to the right to try to stop it.
We go all the way to left, not the left, to the right idea, ideology wise, they're all neocons.
But just like, no involvement, secret government, total rule by twitter dictator, what like?
There's no.
There's no in between, there's no.
Some of our policies read like tweets now yeah well, I mean the meming and all of it.
You know, people have made the decision that they like that over being able to afford groceries and my my my, my problem is the stuff that this guy was talking about, even though you could point out, you go oh that's, that's a little crazy or outrageous or whatever.
He's talking about everything that he can do because he's the president, he has this image and he's so powerful.
And then he gets in an office and he breaks.
He breaks everything that he's saying here and I that, that's that's what I, that's what i'm tired of hearing, and it's it's not only like, not only are you not going to try to fix things, you're actively trying to make things worse and you're actively trying to continue conflicts and fund people, and that that's just that.
I know I came on here a little later guys, but uh, I think I think Rex has held the the house down.
We really appreciate every single one of you guys that have come here on christmas eve when you could have been somewhere else and listening to someone else.
Well, we hope that you enjoyed this broadcast we're doing.
We hope, we hope that you go to Ben Shapiro's channel and we hope that you dislike all of his videos and uh, we hope that.
Yeah, we're.
Thank you for being here with us on a christmas eve.
We're gonna do the show tomorrow.
We'll put a little bit more preparatory stuff into the show tomorrow.
We'll have some uh real, you know, exciting tidbits to present.
But this has been a good show and thank you all for being here and it's always important to thank the callers who call into the show.
And thank you Owl Killer and thank you New Groyper for keeping things alive and uh, really appreciate you guys.
God bless.
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Modern life has left us out of balance.
Long ago, it was once said, certain remedies could grant a man the vitality of a horse.
for over 6 000 years these natural remedies have been harvested and tested by generations Why create complex formulas when nature's roots are still in our hands?