Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh dissect the WNBA's new paid maternity leave, debating whether pregnancy is an injury or a choice that absolves employers of financial responsibility. They analyze how policies might inadvertently bias hiring against women in high-stakes sports where peak performance coincides with childbearing years, contrasting the American two-month limit with European standards offering up to twelve months. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the tension between workforce productivity and family needs, questioning if treating maternity leave as a tax write-off truly balances business interests with gender equity. [Automatically generated summary]
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Maternity Leave in the WNBA00:10:19
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Let's get right into it.
So these WNBA chicks get paternity leave.
I mean, maternity leave.
Well, some of them.
Debatable.
So, so the new collective bargaining agreement came out.
Akash hasn't heard this, so I'm excited.
I'm excited to hear it.
They raised the price for them, which is great.
If you're making the money, you deserve the money.
That's awesome.
And one of the things that they put in the new CBA was that they get maternity leave, paid maternity leave.
And I don't know why this shit kind of struck me because my first reaction was, it's not like an injury.
Like, you don't choose to rupture your Achilles.
You choose to have a baby.
Why is the team on the hook for that?
Right.
And I was like, that's absurd.
You shouldn't get that.
And then I started thinking, wait a minute.
Why not?
How is this not like any other job?
And then I started thinking, how the fuck these women get paid to have babies?
That's insane.
So now you got a problem with maternity leave in general.
Yeah, you went the other way with it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, it's an absurd.
You think the first woman that came to work was like, yo, I'm going to have a baby, but like, I'm going to still need that check every week.
Yeah.
That's mafia shit.
Yeah, they should get that.
All right.
Let's argue.
I know that's that is the right thing to say.
Can I also bring a logical thing into this?
Because I know I'm talking to men.
There's a place for logic if we're talking to men.
Right.
If a girl gets paternity leave or maternity leave, I'm still getting benefit most of the time because then that's our money.
So like, go ahead, bitch, get us some money and not work.
You know what I mean?
Like, or be a stay-at-home wife and make money.
Yeah.
I'm not knocking that.
I'm thinking as the employer.
Oh, yeah.
That's why these hoes ain't getting hired.
That's the thing.
You've been saying that for years.
But here's a problem with the WNBA in that situation.
You don't got a choice.
So now you're just going to hire the dude lesbians and not going to carry the kid?
Yo, you know what's going to be interesting?
The lesbians that carried a strap.
Now, you know what's going to be interesting?
Strap lesbians only.
Where's my young MA?
She ain't carrying kids.
But I've seen them, though.
What do you mean?
I've seen like the butch lesbians like carrying like kids.
Now that look crazy.
It looks crazy, but I've seen it.
Like I've seen like the fucking, you know what I mean?
Like you know what I mean?
Brad and Bride picture where like one of them's pregnant.
And usually you would think, oh, this is clearly the pregnant one and it wasn't.
Hey, Sam, they failed.
Your whole mission is to be a dude.
You failed in the most fucking possible, the most way possible.
You know, it's crazy.
Before technology, what'd you say?
I said the most way possible.
What the fuck is that?
Before this technology shit, if I was an owner of a WNBA team and I was like, hold up, one of these girls get pregnant.
I mean, that's why I'm taking that then.
Right?
Like, of course.
But now the fact that you could do it with in vitro or whatever like that, they could get pregnant.
I just, I am.
It's, why does it seem odd?
Somebody, all right, make the argument for me why if a woman wants to get pregnant, she should still be getting paid.
I didn't say lose her job.
I 100% believe that she should keep her job, but single moms.
Say again?
Single moms.
What about her?
They have to pay bills.
Yeah.
Well, how are you a single mom if it and get pregnant?
You don't like irresponsibility.
Have you ever seen a black household?
Yeah, I'm like, I was raised by a single mom, bro.
Like, it happens a lot, though.
Like, you're going to need that money.
Like, you're going to.
Raised by a single mom, though, to be fair, raised by a single mom is not while she was pregnant.
Was she pregnant single with you?
Doesn't matter.
No, no, no, but maternity leave only matters when you're pregnant.
She's not getting extra pay because she's a single mom raising you.
And the whole purpose of the maternity leave wouldn't apply here is all I'm saying.
Now, I actually find this all hilarious because all these fucking stupid feminists are like championing it.
But imagine your favorite WNBA player gets pregnant and now has to sit out the season and your team is fucked.
Now, I don't think this will be a problem because there are no WNBA fans.
Imagine if there was one, how fucking livid you would be at this.
Candace Parker, fantasy players would be losing their shit.
Candace Parker had an amazing season.
She's a fairly popular player.
She had to sit out the season because she had to have a baby.
She's pregnant.
That's how you take out your rival team.
You just send them a hot dude.
All right?
None of that bitch.
But seriously, break down the argument for me.
I think it's just a nice thing to do because what the fuck is she going to do otherwise?
She cannot work.
But she's choosing to have the kid.
It's her choice.
It's a good thing.
But if you want a society where people have kids, but let me, it's not as.
Concern a career.
Sports are four, five, six years.
You're not playing sports.
Soul scores not a career.
This guy is wild.
That's what's not a career.
I don't think that argument.
I don't think that argument applies, though.
What is the average here?
You can look this up.
What is the average length of a WNBA person's career, the average length of a football career, or average length of a basketball career?
There's still careers.
It doesn't matter how long you do them.
By career, I mean lifelong.
And if it's during the time, like the pre, the peak women get pregnant years, like you got to have it.
Now, I can't wait till I retire and then have a fucking down baby.
Come on, yo.
But you're going to be retired by 30.
You're not going to be hooping at 30.
No, a lot of these women.
I'm sure these hoes is hoping at 30.
WNBA, like, they have like a lot of...
What are they going to lose their athleticism?
I mean, honestly, yeah, like they only play three-month seasons.
A lot of these people don't want to go overseas anymore.
Like, they probably chill and do, you know, stateside shit.
Like, yeah, you can play well into your business.
If you want to have a kid, you should just keep getting paid.
Yes, why not?
Because it's usually two people want to have a kid.
A man usually wants to have a kid, too.
Yeah, like it's not.
I mean, it's an interesting discussion and people just get so triggered by it usually, but it does make an interesting situation.
Got to be carrying the baby, yo.
You can't just be a woman in a lesbian relationship.
Your girl carrying a baby and you off.
Son, I'm not going to lie.
If Alex told me that he needed nine months off.
Nigga, I'm taking paternity leave, son.
You're going to leave?
No, it's not.
You don't get nine months.
Oh, you can get a long.
Son, do you not know how it is in Europe?
You got to pay the motherfucker for a year in somebody's company.
Oh, that's Europe.
I'm talking about America.
America, they get like two months.
White girls from Europe.
My girl took months off.
Months off.
And they're legally supposed to give her that.
I think she could take up to like eight to maybe even 12 months off as long as she needs to be with that kid.
Taking months off is different than getting paid and having months off.
There are places in Europe.
Son, that is wild.
Yeah, that's a little wild.
That's a little wild.
No, I mean, like, that's a long time.
Lawyer, you're going to see it different.
I mean, I'm not an employer, but at the same time, once you have a kid or like see somebody attempt to have a kid, you're going to see it different.
Cause it's like, there's shit that.
I don't think his point is morality.
I think his point is if you're hiring somebody knowing at some point they need a year off and I'm just going to have to figure that shit out and pay them.
Physically it's an awful lot of people.
The point is put morality aside.
Put whether or not they deserve it aside.
The point is if you are making a hiring decision as a boss, take ethics out of it.
You are just looking at me being productive and how much money this is going to cost me as a business.
If I hire a woman and I know at some point she's going to get pregnant.
If I hire a woman who just got married.
Ring on her finger.
Fresh.
And I had, yo, she's going to take maternity leave.
So I'm going to lose all her production.
I still got to pay her.
Then I got to find, hire, and retrain and pay a new person to fill that position.
If I have a female applicant and a male applicant and I don't have to give him leave, who am I more likely to hire?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
That's what I'm saying.
The WNA has been around for 20 years.
They just got this.
No, no, no, no.
I'm sure they've been fighting for it.
I don't think you're listening.
I hear what you're saying.
I really don't think you're listening.
I hear what you're saying.
If I'm an employer, I'm pretty sure the WNBA hire offers back for a while.
Hold on first of all, we can't call the WNBA business.
That's a charitable organization.
I'm tired of calling you an owner of a fucking WNBA team.
You don't own a business.
You own a goddamn tax write-off.
That's what you own.
So the March of Dimes.
Yo, but not dimes.
They're nickels.
Oh, Lincoln penny ass bitches.
The point is essentially that maternity leave in a lot of ways hurts women.
I have a friend of mine, I won't say her name because I got to obviously protect her, but she's an HR.
Hired this woman, got pregnant, had to keep paying her as she left.
Had to hire someone else.
She's going in that hiring process going, if I hire another girl, this exact same thing could happen.
I'm going to hire the dude.
So now you see a situation where something that was supposed to benefit women and help women actually hurts women.
I have another friend, sweetheart.
She's going to come by the studio, I think, next week.
Love her.
Got a job, got pregnant a month in from the job or something absurd.
Took the full maternity during the job, gives birth, quits the job.
Yo, G shit, though.
Now, it's G shit because we look in at bosses like the oppressors and us as the oppressor.
My sister did the same thing.
Your sister did the same shit.
They do this.
Like, while she was out on maternity leave, she was just like interviewing for new jobs.
And it makes it easy because you're off, so you can go to all these interviews and shit like that.
So it's like, my bad sister.
Yo, but it's one of those things where you look at it and you're like, you look at the situation and you're like, how do I take, how do I protect women in the workforce?
This actually hurts women in the workforce.
People want to talk about how there's no female CEOs.
You think I'm going to hire someone who's going to run my company who could at any point in time take a year off?
That's an almost crazy situation.
The only way you do that, if that girl was way more qualified than a man, right?
For example, think about it.
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